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Because actually I know that most men will act toxic because that's all they know and coming from someone who used to be a teenage boy it's way easier following the crowd and acting like a toxic idiot then it is trying to be your own person. I have lost friends and lovers trying to be Mr good and I'm still proud that I still have my integrity but there is a cost to everything and unfortunately men get perceived as week or weird whenever they stand up for something. A lot of men look weak and wei…
/r/ExRedPill01/05/21 12:20 PM
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This video got it spot on. When you raise a bunch of men in a society that already hates them and will make no qualms about saying how much of a faggot, pussy, or loser for not getting laid then of course that's going to turn a lot of guys crazy. Both men and women contribute to what we like to call toxic masculinity. And it hurts worse coming from women because women are women and don't have to walk as a man. You can't get mad at Red pills or in cells for responding to how society has responded…
/r/ExRedPill24/04/21 02:30 PM
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I was a feminist before the red pill and I can say that it does not help young men the way it. We have tons of sources and inspiration from media that say that little girl should be torn away from old gender roles and should be empowered but it is near opposite for men. And I say that as a black man who was a feminist and only to realize that I am also born male and I have had so many people give me s*** because of that.
/r/ExRedPill24/04/21 02:28 PM
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As someone who has bounced back and forth between feminists and red pill and who has done all of these things such as go outside and make friends and socialize I'm still wondering when all of this is supposed to make me a better option. I can still get dates but I'm pretty socially savvy and I hate when people just give out this advice as if it really helps. People are people and people by nature are chaotic and sometimes people aren't Fair especially in the social environment. You my friend hav…
/r/ExRedPill24/04/21 02:18 PM
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I'm pretty sure it's not just respect and that is subjective in itself and I'm not saying that you should be disrespectful Like if a woman is nice and respectful to me of course I'll be respectful better but I'm not going to respect just anybody just because. We'd like to tell ourselves respect is earned but that's not even the case in modern society but I do believe that respect is giving out to those who are rewarding of it. Such as if they have good character or do good things. And it's okay …
/r/ExRedPill24/04/21 02:44 AM
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I'm not red pill either but I would enjoy it if women would actually start approaching like men because we live in an age where we're supposed to be equalizing things between men and women and that also means dating and all these crazy dating norms. Don't get me wrong I understand what you mean but I was never really one of those guys who needed a super feminine girl and after everything that society has pushed for and tried to do in the last 50 years it just seems very disingenuous for women to…
/r/ExRedPill24/04/21 02:02 AM
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I get what you're saying but in my own personal experience men's effort is being forward and vice versa just because of dating norms. I get that women Chase but not the same way because women often give out extremely ambiguous and vague hints and most men aren't going to pick up on them and if I can speak for myself even if a woman is throwing me hence I still wouldn't act on it because I've had too much experience with it backfiring. When people say women Chase they do really need to say that w…
/r/ExRedPill24/04/21 01:45 AM
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Where do you think these views come from? Why does our society let this type of thing happen?
/r/ExRedPill23/04/21 09:59 PM
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I think a lot of this stuff is blown out of proportion as I find that a lot of people getting late just want some type of strong connection. I agree with you that there is no fairy tale soulmate but you can definitely work your way to a partner who fits right. And I definitely agree when you say that people are complicated and struggle with what they want.
/r/ExRedPill23/04/21 05:15 AM
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You are projecting. I agree with you that sociology is fascinating and the fact that we disagree so much proves that. Am I offending you?
/r/ExRedPill23/04/21 05:12 AM
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Don't you think that's sad especially since we live in the most peaceful time in human history where men and women shouldn't have to worry about gender roles or anything like that. I'm getting way better but I still have a little bit of trust of women because of what's happened to me in the past but that's not a good reasoning to distrust all women so I am trying to change my mind on things.
/r/ExRedPill20/04/21 11:59 PM
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The common consensus despite it being a feminist world is that men are still expected to approach. You would think with all this stuff happening and women coming out more and more sharing their experiences that women would be the ones to approach him men. Clearly women hate how men approach but clearly women also want to fall in love and have romantic relationships so why don't most women take that gender role of approaching instead of expecting men to. And I do mean 90% of women I hate approach…
/r/ExRedPill20/04/21 02:09 PM
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I don't know about education being gendered or patriarchalism more women than men in the United States are having better education and graduating School. I'm a dropout and that is for many reasons that are my own. But you don't want to be a man in a certain environment that hates men. Believe me I was a feminist and a black lives matter advocate because I am a black man but what's the difference between people hating a black man and people just hating a man in general.
/r/ExRedPill20/04/21 02:00 PM
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As I said before two of my girlfriend's approached me so they do approach it's just nowhere near enough especially with how much women complain. I understand that some men are horrible and some of these complaints are warranted but after a while and specially being a man who has never done all of these bad things but has had these bad things happen, it just starts to sound very stuck up and entitled after a while So many girls reasons for not approaching come down to working too hard or being sh…
/r/ExRedPill20/04/21 01:57 PM
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I have literally had the opposite experience and I'm not discounting you but I have not seen it in my own life. Hell the women in my life have actually judging me for not being overly sexual but they could be projecting that on to me. My last girlfriend was literally crazy about sex and that's all she talked about. I have been turned down because of my lack of experience and lack of not wanting to even sleep with a girl that night.
/r/ExRedPill19/04/21 09:33 PM
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Believe me as a black man I get that but I am also a man who is socially aware and I'm also aware enough to know that I should not be judged on my masculinity or whatever choices that I pursue that may or may not conform or not conform to masculinity But ever since I was a kid I have noticed just how hard society hammers is boys despite we sang it's a gender neutral world and people can be whatever. I don't want to become 60 for it to finally be acceptable that men of all different types of pers…
/r/ExRedPill19/04/21 09:06 PM
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We as young men are taught two completely contradicting messages when it comes to courtship. If you like a girl you have to tell her. If she doesn't like you or if multiple girls don't like you try harder but if you try hard you look weird or stupid or creepy at worst. Of course social skills do come into the account but people are still people but people are still people and people can be chaotic and erratic. A lot of girls especially when they are young also lack social skills and social aware…
/r/ExRedPill19/04/21 04:08 PM
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I can get that. Nobody wants to go up to someone they don't know especially with something intimate with trying to get their number or date them But you do realize to some who may be more analytical could see that as an excuse or hypocrisy? Biologically I get it as women tend to be shorter and weigh less than men. I believe there is a 40% upper body difference? Of course that's just averages. But when I think of it from the feminist point of view I don't see why women should hold themselves back…
/r/ExRedPill19/04/21 03:58 PM
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Because like most people throw in many societies we are taught things by our society that may or may not make sense or even be realistic until we get older or find it for ourselves? The things that are inappropriate as you say are only that from a certain point of view. Years ago women wearing anything that revealed their ankle was inappropriate. Of course now hundreds of years later we see the idiocy of that. 100 years ago if I were to even exist in this country.... That was inappropriate... Of…
/r/ExRedPill19/04/21 03:51 PM
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You don't have to apologize to men as a whole. You don't even really have to apologize to these individuals especially if they antagonized you first. I used to treat girls the same way. I was raised by nothing but women on both sides of my family and to this day I still cringe at the thought of hitting any man or woman. I'm a big dude and society has always let me know that. I do not know My own strength. I hate when people ask me too something or handle something because I'm afraid I will break…
/r/ExRedPill19/04/21 03:46 PM
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Do you believe most guys really think like that? And and I am a man and I know the stereotype of what you're talking about but I also have other male friends and they all are in pretty close committed relationships and they put effort in. Three of my friends just got married. What I mean is have you ever actually walked up to a guy and try to get him? Have you ever actually put in the effort? These days I see a lot of gender norms changing but the actual approaching is still done by men
/r/ExRedPill19/04/21 03:43 PM
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The story is valid but you act as if this is somehow uniquely only going to women I work in retail a month ago and I meant a woman who usually comes in and chats with me. I go over and give her my number and it worked. We had a great first day and she kept saying she wanted to see me again but I have been ghosted ever since. My last girlfriend Love bombed me so speak for yourself. I said that respectfully there's nothing wrong with a woman wanting to date a guy and showing Earnest interest in it…
/r/ExRedPill19/04/21 03:41 PM
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No it's no longer taboo I don't know where everyone keeps thinking it's taboo especially when we live in 2021 where men and women are supposed to at least try to understand each other. Of course everyone makes an effort it just feels hypocritical when we're told that women are supposed to be empowered yet women still want to be chased after
/r/ExRedPill19/04/21 02:26 AM
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Maybe courtship was not the right word. When I mean traditional dating I mean exactly what you said when the man is expected to lead and ask and pay for the meal. Men are still expected to plan and pay and run the risk of rejection
/r/ExRedPill19/04/21 02:25 AM
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See that's just your experience and as a man that seems out of left field I'm talking about traditional rolls and dating and courtship. Of course intent is there but I don't think most men ever had a choice but to not follow the role and try to show interest A lot of men don't show heavy interest at the beginning because I don't want to look stupid desperate or needy or they had experience with a woman when they did try to show interest but it backfired. Do you still expect a man to walk up to y…
/r/ExRedPill19/04/21 02:24 AM
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Modern dating is not very different because we're still trying to play on Old gender roles
/r/ExRedPill19/04/21 12:45 AM
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Modern courtship is still very much 80% traditional I'm talking about women still expected to be courted and pursued and having their stuff paid for.
/r/ExRedPill19/04/21 12:15 AM
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But I mean is a lot of women seem to still expect men to lead and provide in everything including dates and sex and romance. I also agree with you as my last two girlfriends came at me and we had an equal time forwarding and dating but in my experience that type of woman seems to be a rarity and I find it even more confusing especially since we live in 2021 where women want to be seen as equal and respectable. Which is fine on its own merits but it kind of gets to be hypocritical when men are st…
/r/ExRedPill19/04/21 12:14 AM
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It's not that they can't but it's usually not the norm. I find the most women still want to be traditionally courted despite it being 2021
/r/ExRedPill19/04/21 12:04 AM
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Whenever you start a rebellion or a war or try to control a population you target it sons first. The sons are usually the warriors or the builders in the society and when you cut them off you cut off the protection and access to resources. All types of men from different cultures and countries in world war II were usually the first to be killed if their city was taken. Which is smart from The invader standpoint because you lower the risk of revolt. Of course I don't agree with all of this but I'…
/r/ExRedPill17/04/21 01:16 PM
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Gender is probably more complex a social issue than race in my opinion because there are so many inherent traits and socially engineered traits that both men and women have been subjected to for thousands of years so of course you're going to have a little bit of disarray. And that's not just it. We often do talk about men and women as a whole but each man and woman is filled with millions of other traits that make them unique as well. Like it is a fact that men biologically piss out of their pe…
/r/ExRedPill17/04/21 01:13 PM
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And see that black man has been taught the very opposite and that "I have no idea how this woman sees men or even black men in general and I am at the mercy of whatever her mood is" I know this could become a circle jerk but my own mother used to warn me about women like that because she saw her brothers and cousins get done horribly because they were black men back in the seventies and '80s and '90s. Of course stuff is different now but if you look at the media not really. Intersectionality is …
/r/ExRedPill17/04/21 01:11 PM
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That's because whatever a man's personality is it's usually perceived a different way. The common deck beard who spends all his time inside the house doing nerdy things is pretty confident and happy but it probably won't be translated that way to a woman so he has to put on a front. Believe me putting on front save me from a lot of social situations because trying to be honest and authentic which is a lot of the advice that women say, got me absolutely nowhere. Basically a man's confidence is ve…
/r/ExRedPill17/04/21 02:19 AM
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See my problem with this is a lot of women who call themselves confident and self-assured are usually not and think they are when they are usually being assholes. A lot of us make that mistake of thinking that acting domineering and snarky is equivalent to confidence and I see it with a lot of young women If you are confident you don't have to say. I used to date a woman who fancied herself as confident but she really wasn't.
/r/ExRedPill17/04/21 02:17 AM
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But that is true. Societies and different social apparatuses most men were disposable and were not teens or emporers or Lords or anything of the sort Most men did not have society swing power that we think of today. Near half the male population back in the dark times were soldiers and in either heavier statistic within them would have died and the rest if they did not die in battle were taking his captives by the enemy army to use a slaves or new conscripts to the army. And this was back then b…
/r/ExRedPill17/04/21 02:09 AM
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In my opinion they are. I get the point of the subredded as I don't like most of the red pill but a lot of the red pill does get a lot of things right that we do not pick up Socially that is How many women do you think will honestly self-introspect and ask them if they have treated any man with disrespect or selfishness or sexism or violence or manipulation And I don't mean just romantically I mean any man in the life from husbands to Brothers to uncles to boyfriends to friends.
/r/ExRedPill17/04/21 02:07 AM
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I'm not but I don't see a point in arguing any further.
/r/ExRedPill14/04/21 02:09 PM
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And who's to say I don't feel better now?
/r/ExRedPill14/04/21 01:59 PM
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Okay so. I have not talked to this girl personally in about two and a half years In that time I have had another serious girlfriend and three other dates Please believe me when I say I'm over her, but her example is great for this type of page. She's the type of girl who was smile on your face and then talk about you behind your back. Just last week my cousin's told me that my ex-girlfriend wanted to speak to me and I denied them because I don't want to speak to her. I'm living my life and I do …
/r/ExRedPill14/04/21 01:59 PM
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I mentioned social skills and other things though. I also mentioned my other ex I only mentioned these girls because well I'm heterosexual and these girls are the only frame of reference I have I don't disagree with you though. Of course you need some rudimentary skills of social skills and communication. All I'm saying though is sometimes you could be a social master or perceive yourself to be and find yourself in embarrassing situations or predicaments.
/r/ExRedPill14/04/21 01:52 PM
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I was thinking the same thing A lot of the excuses that say that men can't get raped for the fact that boys get hard but I was thinking the same thing along the lines of just because your body reacts does not mean you personally or mentally enjoy it I assume the same with girls especially if they get wet but just because they get wet does not mean that they are enjoying what's happening to them. The human body is crazy and people are vicious and evil
/r/ExRedPill14/04/21 01:36 PM
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Off topic In a forum called Express pill where you're supposed to leave the red pill and you expect me not to talk about things that red pill me? Believe me I hate the red pill too but looking back in my younger years of course I was going to gravitate towards it because I did everything right and still got disrespected in the worst way and it doesn't matter if it was my ex or another girl who replaced her it's just the fact that it happened
/r/ExRedPill14/04/21 01:34 PM
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Exactly I mentioned her because she is the premier example of what could red pill a man. I am over her. There's a certain social event that mutual friends are going to that I will not be going to for the simple fact that I don't need to ignite old feelings with her For whatever I think of toxic femininity or how women can hurt themselves in other people I think of her Choose the classic girl who hated everybody else and talked about everybody else but only because she thought she was ugly and in…
/r/ExRedPill14/04/21 01:32 PM
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Basically the men are dogs and sleep with anything and will do anything to do it and that's been one of my biggest puppies with the red pill I know so many guys including myself that suffer because we are men that do not want to act like a stereotypical Don draper. Of course in your head sleeping with a bunch of women seems nice. But from what I have seen and heard it really turns into something that is just good for everybody involved I got a friend who is depressed now because he slept with 20…
/r/ExRedPill14/04/21 12:44 AM
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Also would you argue the fact that there are subtleties is what contributes to a lot of miscommunication and chaos that comes to the courtship of men and women Were each taught different things on what is appropriate and how to survive as a gender and usually things that could either work against us or harmless and I have noticed that the same things mirror each other for each gender. For example let's say five women said they hated guys who wore blue shoes. These five women make blogs and video…
/r/ExRedPill14/04/21 12:38 AM
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I don't think it's inherently social skills as dating especially as a man requires extra skills that I would argue come with not treating women with kid gloves As men we grow up learning that if we made the wrong move or said x y and z it could be interpreted as creepy or mean or dangerous and the same things are usually the same things that turn a woman on or what other men use to turn her off Of course social context counts but I have seen men use the same pickup moves in almost every single s…
/r/ExRedPill14/04/21 12:34 AM
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Honestly dude I am surprised at how little real and refine social skills I use for my last two dates and that's not an insult to them. I would say some girls need more priming than others as weird as that may sound When I think have social skills I think that means some women will want to test you and push to see what you're about and I usually hate this games But there are other women, like my last two dates, who were very easy to talk to and did not play any crazy mind games Going in I thought…
/r/ExRedPill14/04/21 12:31 AM
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Your experiences very similar to mine and I have had similar observations It's near impossible to not be discriminatory and to not think about what others think when you date because they do have a certain power over you and if you do come from a background of bullying and trauma it does hurt especially if your crush bullies and criticizes you as well Especially when you set up a child is easily ashamed My parents would embarrass me in front of other people whenever I messed up and that what sor…
/r/ExRedPill14/04/21 12:28 AM
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Oh and the girl I was talking about was a girl I just dated from January to March. She wasn't abusive but she did have an abusive ex she kept entertaining even though she kept saying that it was nothing.
/r/ExRedPill14/04/21 12:24 AM
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Shes the first person that comes to mind when I think of a horrible dating scenario I do feel like I'm over her but I hate the fact that I let that happen and I see a lot of the same behaviors in a lot of young women and these behaviors seem cute socially but it's nowhere near cute if it's hiding something sinister behind it It took me a long time to get over a lot of mental issues and this girl reopened every single insecurity I thought I got over and I am much better now but I could have went …
/r/ExRedPill14/04/21 12:23 AM
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It hasn't been all bad but so far my ratio has been a little half and half but that does not mean that most girls are going to be like that. Despite my last girlfriend going back to her abusive ex she still treated me relatively well and we still had a nice time. My last day was super awesome and that was probably the easiest thing I've ever been on.
/r/ExRedPill14/04/21 12:00 AM
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Because not all perceptions of the same social skills will be treated equally I was out in the club with a female friend of mine. We were all dancing and she suggested that I just go grab a girl and dance Now to a tiny 5'5 120 lb girl like my friend, can go grab a guy or a girl and dance and it probably would only be taken as weird or awkward at best If I do that ,someone who is literally 6'6 and double her weight, I will get slapped or have a drink thrown in my face and at best have the girl lo…
/r/ExRedPill13/04/21 10:20 PM
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Because unlike regular friends dating requires a lot more subtleties and don't subtleties sometimes go missed and that can happen to both men and women but once again as a man I'm expected to pursue and getting rejected day in and day out does get kind of tiring so naturally some men take breaks Women on the other hand have attention come to them so they could be at whatever headspace and still have romantic success.
/r/ExRedPill13/04/21 07:37 PM
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I don't think social skills have anything to do with it but if they are younger it can I always had tons of friends it was good at socializing but trying to get a girl to like me was always a challenge
/r/ExRedPill13/04/21 05:53 PM
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I don't see it as a double standard. Of course men and women go after each other for various reasons but when I'm looking at my mom and dad's generation at their age and now that I am at that age as well it seems like dating isn't so much mostly for mutual benefit but for searching around and having fun which is cool but there is consequences such as having children. So many of my friends male or female are now on their second or third baby and we're all just a couple of years out of high school…
/r/ExRedPill12/04/21 01:36 PM
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Out of all the things you read you also had to pick out that. screw the fact that my entire family has been ruined by generations having kids out of wedlock and cheating. Why do you guys always try to find something to point the finger head and shame
/r/ExRedPill12/04/21 12:35 PM
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Because unfortunately we still live in a time where both men and women are expected to do things that don't make sense. Instead of trying to find something to come down on me on maybe you should reconsider These women scream how much they hate these men that they lay down with now and the men are going to do it to get respect because unfortunately as a man if you can sleep with a lot of women that does harbor you respect. I don't agree with it but that is the world that we live in We were all yo…
/r/ExRedPill12/04/21 12:34 PM
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Speak for yourself My entire family is a product of both the men and women not f****** keeping it to themselves The dudes want to feel respected and like real men so they'll go mess around with anything and the girls want to be accepted and get the attention so they'll open their legs for anything I'll give you an example on why I hate both of them equally My youngest brother is actually not my brother but my step dad's second son. My third brother's little brother. My stepdad who was with my mo…
/r/ExRedPill11/04/21 06:18 PM
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What you typed out sounds very nice and I'm not disagreeing per se but most people do not think of this in real time especially when it happens To generalize I think of the basic comic relief character in any movie or TV show. He only exists to be made fun of or disrespected and to make the other main characters look better by proxy. Usually these types do try to portray a sense of assertiveness or standing up for yourself but this is usually portrayed as pitiable. Look up The Big bang theory wi…
/r/ExRedPill10/04/21 05:21 AM
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Which once again I get that this is in good faith but what is the point of having a sub if it's just going to be a circle jerk As I said before I hate most of the red pill but something it does get spot on is that men are trapped in this gender role if they want to date or succeed at all and it does hurt when you are completely laughed at and rejected and told how horrible you are most of your life while your female counterparts just sit back and laugh. For years I held similar mindsets to you g…
/r/ExRedPill08/04/21 09:29 PM
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Believe me I tried.but you cannot not ignore the reality that women have more power than privilege when it comes to sex and dating because they are the ones who are sitting by and we are the ones that are having to go after and with that type of power dynamic comes this phenomena Like I know it's not every woman but I have to keep a healthy dose of skepticism now because it's happened so many times and I've seen it so many times I've broken up with a girl I've been seeing because she keeps going…
/r/ExRedPill30/03/21 05:21 PM
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The difference is. Women are much more sneaky and it's damn near socially acceptable.
/r/ExRedPill30/03/21 03:23 PM
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I completely understand that and yet I grew up completely having to listen to the opposite happened to me.it's not so socially acceptable for a man to complain but I have had many female friends and family members who have told me various horror stories about the men in their lives and yet no one tells them that they're just bad apples. I understand what you're saying completely but it just seems very unfair in a giant double standard especially after having to hear it for most of my life.
/r/ExRedPill29/03/21 08:54 PM
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Exactly and it goes full circle.believe me I did not used to think like that but after being in it for a while I have to think that now. the difference is as a man I do not have possible deniability or society backing any wrongdoing I do.
/r/ExRedPill29/03/21 06:01 PM
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I have been played by three women in my life and now I am left with trust issues and I do not trust most women now this is not very healthy and not every woman is horrible but you can see why some men will probably be thinking about this not because they are evil or cultish but because of experience. if I had listened to the red pill or even knew what it was during all these times I probably could have saved some relationships or save myself some embarrassment
/r/ExRedPill29/03/21 01:51 PM
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I had an experience like that though we weren't talking for a year. This girl basically lived in California while I live in Tennessee and I guess she was looking for a walking wallet because as soon as I mentioned my regular job she said I couldn't help her and this before we even talked about even seeing each other or money or anything.
/r/MGTOW228/03/21 08:40 PM
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Which is a problem. It's causing self esteem issues for both men and women
/r/MGTOW228/03/21 08:39 PM
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Exactly it only gases them up and it leaves you with absolutely nothing which is why I hate it.
/r/MGTOW228/03/21 02:49 PM
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I just said 2 months just because of an example. And I do get what you're saying but that's not as simple as I wanted it. I would like for women to humble themselves but there is still a lot of men who chase women.and I'm not saying these men are bad and I'm not saying the women they chase are gold diggers or evil or whatever but so many girls will talk so much BS when clearly they thrive off of men and their validation or time or money One of my Facebook friends is constantly complaining and be…
/r/MGTOW227/03/21 03:06 PM
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This is my biggest question. Do you want people just to kiss ass and just agree even though their personal experience differs? I realized there is a lot of positive heart in the sub but sometimes you guys get it wrong. I didn't start going full red pill if you want to call it that until after a long time of being abused by women. I kept giving chances and kept forgiving but me being a man I am expected to suck it up and move on and not judge women at all. It got old hearing women say that men we…
/r/ExRedPill27/03/21 02:46 PM
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Whether it be biological or social at this point does not matter, but as much as we try so many of our frustrations as men and women come down to sexual selection and everything that goes along with it socially financially and mentally I imagine a lot of women here are trying to steer guys away but also only doing that because they do not want to face the truth that they may have been guilty of behaviors that led men to Red pill. I acted the same way when I was a feminist because I did not want …
/r/ExRedPill27/03/21 02:43 PM
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Of course they never planted out that way but the dichotomy is here because no one during the real-time social interactions they have is going to stop and look at their own biases You are right that women can be both those things but they need to stop blaming men then.it is true that I could be both those things but I also face the social penalty of coming off as soft and gentle as a man so believe me I understand both sides get it but the difference is feminists and women can go online or in th…
/r/ExRedPill24/03/21 02:43 PM
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I dumped her. Go on somewhere with that bullshit
/r/ExRedPill24/03/21 04:58 AM
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Believe me I can get to that point especially recently but it has not been healthy for me and I don't want to be domineering or the aggressive to anybody you can't use a man's gender role against them and hold it over him and yet free up women from theirs at the same time a lot of women seem to still want to be protected and provided for that will scream to the heavens that they are independent. Even more so as a man I do not know which woman is which until I know her well enough or she shows mo…
/r/ExRedPill24/03/21 04:56 AM
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Thank you for proving my point.
/r/ExRedPill24/03/21 04:53 AM
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You don't have to apologize it's just something that we all should keep in mind. It happens to Latino men and white men too Imagine being a fresh immigrant in a new place and trying your best to learn the customs while still retaining your accent and trying to learn the language. it's already hard enough with social interactions now imagine someone accusing you of something simply because you are a foreigner or a fish out of water and of course you're going to act weird in a new place add that t…
/r/ExRedPill23/03/21 10:46 PM
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Recently a girl I have been seeing has been spotted yet again with her ex-boyfriend and yet she keeps texting me her own description of this dude is that he was super abusive and controlling and yet she keeps willfully putting herself back around him. it is very frustrating because all I have been taught and told is to be courteous and respectful and she seems to appreciate it yet she keeps continuing to go back to that guy and it is very frustrating. Two things are usually in a man's head when …
/r/ExRedPill23/03/21 10:44 PM
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All my years of abuse and having the police called on me and being bullied and etc do not make me clueless Once again I'm not saying it does not happen and it is unfortunate that it did happen to you and your friends but it is dangerous to keep letting this go on as if it is all men that are potential dangers you know how dangerous that is to a little boy psyche absorbing all of this negative information? Are you saying my lived experience does not matter?
/r/ExRedPill23/03/21 06:41 PM
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everybody wants men to understand and be empathetic with women and not be biased or judgmental yet women can do that so easily with other men and we're just supposed to sit there and just take it.
/r/ExRedPill23/03/21 06:34 PM
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But biases do not account for all of this and it is partly because I am big and black and a man so it is definitely a race a size and gender thing. by that logic I should be scared of everybody including men and women because I have been beat on and hurt and abused by both right? or because I'm a man I shouldn't worry about it or feel too bad especially since I'm big so that means I should be able to protect myself? It gets so old and me being big or being a man cannot keep being an excuse.a wom…
/r/ExRedPill23/03/21 06:33 PM
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at the same time these young men don't need anybody trying to hound him and mold them into a real man because that's what drove me crazy as a kid. these kids don't need anybody telling them any platitudes are lies what they need is to be listened to and to be cared for 100% without judgment I was a little boy at one point and I acted out not because I had a problem with my masculinity but because I kept getting abused 24/7 everywhere I went
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/21 02:30 PM
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I will be completely okay with the idea of feminist if they extended their ideas to men completely, without hate I'm a comic book artist and I say that loosely ass I'm not making tons of money but I still make commissions from time to time.it will be super sweet if I could be a stay-at-home dad while doing my art and raising my kids but as a man it feels so uncomfortable just typing it out because I know how society will view it. Even though I have a "excuse" it's also not a true stereotypically…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/21 02:26 PM
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But feminist themselves have abused and hurt men My abuser fashioned herself as a feminist also and still hurt me. whether you believe it or not subconsciously or not a lot of feminist stuff is okay but it's harmful to men and a lot of women do have biases against men and see that women can do no wrong and this is not rocket science! Think back to the schoolyard.little girls to get away with much more than little boys can because of the biases the adults had.Little Sally can hit Little Johnny an…
/r/ExRedPill23/03/21 01:51 PM
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Why
/r/ExRedPill23/03/21 12:59 PM
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A lot of single mothers usually get away with abusive behavior but get a pass.I was raising the hood with a drug infested mother in an autistic brother and it was not easy and to this day I don't hate her and I still hesitate to call her behavior abuse but it is what it is Abuse also a lot of her anger towards my stepdad and my dad usually came at me next since I was the oldest boy. Women do and have always had irrational hate and biases just like men do that may trickle over to other relationsh…
/r/ExRedPill23/03/21 12:38 AM
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Whether they be feminist or redfield just stop arguing with them Most people do not want their mind changed. And if they do it won't be instant gender roles have always perplexed me and I find them both frustrating and fascinating. My YouTube feed is filled with both feminist and red pill videos just so I can still see both sides and not be so biased. nothing is perfect and no one is going to see anything the same way 100% and our society has to get used to that now be safe
/r/ExRedPill23/03/21 12:10 AM
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Which is crazy because I'm a black man and I have dealt with them since I was a kid.women aren't exempt from racism or sexism or pure ignorance and I'm tired of the left pushing that and I say that as a left-leaning Democrat myself. I remember getting the police called on me in elementary school just for playing outside
/r/ExRedPill22/03/21 10:47 PM
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Because I'm a man and I do understand a lot of women better for the simple fact that I had no choice but to be raised by them on both sides of my family and I have had tons of female friends and it will take me at least 100 hands to count them It's not that hard. Empathy is hard for some but for me it was never hard and I'm telling you when I hear women complain or even try to step in a man's shoes it's like they completely do not get it I was just on the phone with a friend who told me that she…
/r/ExRedPill22/03/21 05:58 PM
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I don't think I can be at peace with dating again I'm not angry or hateful as I was when I was younger but men and women have a long way to go before truly understanding each other and even then it's still not going to be perfect I can call out more female b******* now because I don't have my women are wonderful blinders on.and my relationship with my female friends has improved also because we can talk more openly about intersexual Dynamics Life is a chess board and I hate it
/r/ExRedPill22/03/21 05:02 PM
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A mixture of bullying growing up in a world where male and female gender norms are more than mixed combined with lack of male role models and making it socially acceptable to not stand up for yourself I just had a conversation earlier today when a female friend said that she was not socialized to do x y and z and I told her that men are socialized to do x y and z because of that and so on and so forth Men are expected to pursue an initiate and be sexual and everything else and there is no manual…
/r/ExRedPill22/03/21 04:54 PM
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it's too easy to say it's an insecurity especially if these insecurities came from real life examples and if I was a woman stating that I had an insecurity you wouldn't say it was just my problem it's not a woman's job to protect a man's ego but why do so many women seem very adamant on attacking a man's ego or even lying. just because she cheated doesn't mean she's evil and even though I personally don't want to see her or hear from her again does not mean she does not deserve to live a life an…
/r/ExRedPill21/03/21 02:18 PM
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God no I hate fds
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/21 11:06 AM
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In the past I did go into this weird martial arts Monk face to where I was doing nothing but studying art and working out my body from sunup to sundown and for a while it did help but after all of that it kind of makes me question what is manhood even more. when I tell you when I first started disciplining myself it was difficult until I had a mindset change and it felt so freeing but even after all of that I still feel like I haven't even reached the surface of true manhood even after accomplis…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/21 10:43 AM
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It's not all bad but I hate the fact that my childhood was robbed by this Especially my artistic side.if I was able to find a strength to be proud of being an artist earlier on who knows where my skills would be? but looking back there was no way I could be proud of myself in that environment because every single day walking back into school or home would have been a fight or an argument just like it is today I had to literally ignore phone calls from family members and drop friends because I kn…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/21 10:07 AM
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It's actually something me in an old therapist used to talk about but I don't think I'm trans.it's not that I hate my body or my voice or anything like that but I have always hated how society has treated men and then tells us that we need to get over it or just be ourselves as if society will change if we do this at this moment I have a nice personality and I try to be a nice person and I have gotten a lot of friends this way but it took me 17 years to finally accept my personality and work on …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/21 10:04 AM
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But see that's it and I feel like that's really the ultimate insult to men. why do I need to keep living and succeeding improving people wrong especially if they weren't going to give me a fair shot in the first place? Why can't I just be valued. Period. even if I do reach this arbitrary level of masculinity and success there's always going to be something else people are going to find about you that's not going to be good enough.this realization did help me a lot in free myself but now that I'm…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/21 10:02 AM
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It's not so much swearing off the act of dating also but trying to impress or act like something or putting in the rounds also is what I'm talking about I think both genders should try to put energy they give in trying to impress the opposite sex and put it into themselves. It can also humble you and make a change in the way we interact. I'm a much better person for doing that and I am much better at picking and identifying women who will not be good for me but that also came with leaving an abu…
/r/ExRedPill18/03/21 07:36 PM
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what I mean is that if I a young man with everything crazy that happened to me can exist and do all these things without complaint about my gender role or where if it's into society,why can't most people try to at least put themselves in our shoes the way we were brought up to. It was beaten into my head that if I sounded or acted like XY or z then I was an evil or horrible misogynistic and crazy black man. Of course as I got older I was able to dispel some of these notions but it is still there…
/r/ExRedPill18/03/21 07:34 PM
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but for men there seems to be some cultural push that we need to act or do x y and z not just to actually go out and meet the girl but to actually succeed which is something I don't see changing anytime soon at least in this generation like straight up even though we live in this new feminist world I have so many personal female friends and have heard other women say that they still want men to pursue them and that they don't pursue men which I find crazy but it does make sense because it is a g…
/r/ExRedPill17/03/21 03:28 AM
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Non-statistically speaking no. All men cross the board of all races and nationalities are usually the first to be homeless or a victim of violent crime or incarcerated I got a elderly white manager who admitted that she could probably get out of being pulled over versus her son's or me. Gender roles are still very strong and prevalent and even the most progressive of us still are guilty of following these biases. If a woman is hurt or harassed or raped it will be most likely by someone she knows…
/r/ExRedPill16/03/21 09:04 PM
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and even those can be misinterpreted into different things and I say that as a guy who has had the police called on me so many times as a kid. Usually by appearance or some very agrievedd white woman I'm really not seeing any difference between what we're telling them now and what we have always told black people.
/r/ExRedPill16/03/21 12:49 PM
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Of course extreme sipping should be called out and I understand exactly what you're talking about And you are right that more men do work in creative fields.as much as I hate using biological determinism it does seem like a theme in history that men have a wide array of talents and Fields that they do go into. you can raise five sons and a house and one could become a doctor or a swimmer or a artist or a lawyer or a soldier. All five different professions take different types of skill sets and a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/21 05:23 AM
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I agree with you. Yet I only bring up these antecedents because these are usually when you see the most On a more mature or adult level I'll give you an example Just recently I had a conversation with a man who tried to give me a lecture on responsibility.this man is twice my age yet this man hops from woman to woman and bears children without taking care of them and abandon them. This man has no right to give me any lecture on responsibility.and me walking away and not listening to him even tho…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/21 05:20 AM
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So it's no different how the US used to treat black and minority men? not all black men are rapist and criminals but some are so all of them have to be monitored and act and be a certain way? guys believe me I was raised by women and I understand it is dangerous yet I have been shot at and stabbed and spit on and have been in numerous fights since I was a child and no one has even thought about protecting me as well
/r/ExRedPill16/03/21 05:03 AM
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Believe me as a black man I know.... It's crazy how we have gotten to this point I don't need to act like I'm not a threat
/r/ExRedPill16/03/21 05:02 AM
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They are exactly If I am offering financial security then that can count as security or protection I'm a big dude and I also mean that literally as I can protect her and myself so I am offering protection and providing it with my own body
/r/ExRedPill12/03/21 09:24 PM
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Providing protection
/r/ExRedPill12/03/21 09:18 PM
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I always knew women were wonderful because I was raised by women so I got to see the best and worst but I will still very fair and open and empathetic to people but this does kind of make me not feel bad anymore not because women don't go through anything because I don't think women even give the fraction of thought and consideration into men's issues that men give to women I hear so many women complain about their man not opening up and I'm just sitting there wondering why they're so surprised …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/21 08:28 PM
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Out of all the advice and platitudes I've gotten over the years.... It really does seem like you got to be a Superman I typed that sarcastically because I know it's not true but the way you guys stated makes it so.
/r/ExRedPill11/03/21 04:04 AM
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The way you guys frame it is so
/r/ExRedPill11/03/21 04:00 AM
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To be honest in a way I kind of have made peace with it but that still does not make up for the fact that all of that ruined my self-esteem m And no I will not accept blame for that because I had every reason to bully other people too but I didn't so why should bullies get a pass? Maybe they shouldn't bully? I had a couple of cousins and a grandmother who was a bully to me growing up but that was different from school as I couldn't get away from them? That my fault? it's crazy that you say I'm s…
/r/ExRedPill11/03/21 04:00 AM
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I did and now I'm back in the same place because we live in a twisted society that tells you that you need to be XY and z but if you aren't then you suffer and then you're told to work on yourself and depression and then the cycle repeats I repeat most of my high school days and early college was trying to work on myself and depression and it did help for a while but the fact that I'm back here proves that there must be a problem with the society or how we view each other.
/r/ExRedPill11/03/21 03:50 AM
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I can't stand it as a black man. Most women live completely opposite my life Wherever I go people are constantly making me out as a threat. people constantly see me as a challenge or they think I'm going to steal their girl or think I'm flirting with them I'm expected to be super sexual and enjoy it So many things don't line up. White women throughout American history have lied on men of color and have gotten them killed. we are not on the even playing field and I have met very few feminists tha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/21 03:28 AM
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As an artist I do agree but it is a very gendered idea that women are the ones who generally dress up and do makeup and it is not a secret that in a very homophobic and heavy gender society that any man doing anything similar would be met with ridicule. A lot of girls who lie about their appearance.I've been on a date with a girl who obviously filtered her parents online but with different and it wasn't that she was unattractive or that I didn't like her afterwards but it did kind of make me fee…
/r/ExRedPill11/03/21 03:23 AM
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Cheating can be the end of the world for many people because I saw it in my life constantly I love you guys because I see you guys doing good but the way you guys try to take people away from the red pill does not make sense. You don't change anybody by talking down to him. I'm also trying to break away from the Westfield because I hated but that does not mean they did not get it right on a lot of things about modern behavior I've had to call out so many of my female friends for making sexes or …
/r/ExRedPill11/03/21 03:19 AM
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I'm not coming at you but whenever someone gets to the end of their point this is where they miss me How do you know these guys are just making up stories? why can't it be that these guys have real true lived experiences for whatever reason that happened to them because they were Men in search of Love? my entire first relationship was a red pill horror story and I still wasn't even red pill after all it happened. The girl was super whiny and insecure and nasty and mean and expected the entire wo…
/r/ExRedPill11/03/21 03:14 AM
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I understand that and I completely agree which also makes me question this even more if I am telling you all that I did all of these things you guys say to do and I still ended up alone and bullied and mistreated then whose fault is it? I don't blame you guys but I do definitely blame A lot of my bullies in the past.
/r/ExRedPill11/03/21 03:12 AM
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I did all of that and it still let me back to the depression and why is that not something everyone can just admit? I went to about myself and right now in my life doing the same thing probably won't help me. I did so many things not only to make my life better, but to become a better option but I still came back here single and depressed I'm talking to a girl now but it seems like that's not going to last much longer either because she keeps playing games. all this work you talk about takes not…
/r/ExRedPill11/03/21 03:03 AM
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It is an illusion that we could ever have control over everything in our lives and even if we did as you get older more things will take its place which I find crazy because it feels like myself improve it will never be done because by definition a human being is not perfect
/r/ExRedPill11/03/21 02:50 AM
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I've had about 3 dates and I have been dating this girl for about 3 months but I'm about to drop her because she keeps talking to her ex even though she says they're just friends. Ironically I had a nice mixture of red pill and blue pill when I was getting over my depression because it took a lot of courage to finally accept me and my personality but I also have to do maintenance, if that makes sense like I'm a huge nerd and still am but I don't lead with it anymore and I know I'll probably have…
/r/askTRP10/03/21 01:55 PM
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No it does not make him look insecure or beta and I hate when people do that asking a question or needing advice does not make you weak or a beta
/r/askTRP10/03/21 01:27 PM
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I get you dude That's why I take it with a grain of salt because nobody knows the one secret truth of life or society and these guys sound just like the guys I had to fight in middle school because they were that arrogant and egotistical I do not like that part and I do not want to make myself into some raging bulldog who just goes around and dominates over people and yet in my head that's the archetype I see most successful with women. and it's not even really about the woman per se it's more a…
/r/ExRedPill10/03/21 01:01 PM
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I've been told by women it is because of my height and race as I am a big black dude and most of the time I don't like it. there have been girls who do like me for me but what's the difference between liking me for superficial characteristics and me liking a woman for just her body. There are some really attractive girls but some of them do lack a personality or even common sense,just because they are attractive and that is enough to get ahead in life and some dudes have this too.
/r/ExRedPill10/03/21 03:03 AM
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Your generalizing way too many people in different sources did you ever think it's because the other stuff does not work I don't agree with it 100% and I can take some things with a grain of salt. But obviously people are going to it for a reason other than insecurity or hatred.
/r/ExRedPill09/03/21 10:35 PM
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Did you actually listen to their video like I did? there is literally no outlet for young men to find a way to interact with women successfully without turning to the red pill or turning two other crazy stuff without trying to be a creep or an abuser. we as young men in this generation have been taught the thousands of ways on what not to do but there is literally no way right to do this. most dating advice is going to be non PC and non-feminist and I think that's what they're really trying to d…
/r/ExRedPill09/03/21 10:19 PM
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I kind of agree but the fact that you used to work next beer kind of makes it a circle or a vicious cycle because the fact that you say that means that you see them as that and that's just going to leave these type of guys right back to the red pill
/r/ExRedPill09/03/21 06:23 PM
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That's my point I understand why they would say something negative about an ex because I am empathetic but I as a man don't get that same empathy back. almost everybody has dated somebody they probably shouldn't and who probably added nothing but negativity instead of positivity but for me as a man the margin of error is so slim and almost anything I will say can be taken as extreme insecurity or being butt hurt or unmasking even though I know intellectually I'm not people are still social anima…
/r/ExRedPill09/03/21 02:55 AM
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okay but see no problem with what you just said is that from my perspective it is pretty gender-neutral as I stated in my post almost every girl I've dated has started out with something like that you say it's not common as the red pill thinks but I grew up around women and had a bunch of female friends and they will throw around at work very loosely to describe guys because it's easy and as men were already expected to take it and not show emotion. Just as every man might not be so enlightened …
/r/ExRedPill09/03/21 02:11 AM
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I completely understand that but this is not a male only issue I just made my own thread about this but there is a certain double standard with men and women showing in security because literally every girl I've dated has been open with their positive and negative emotions and I saw no problem with that yet I'm expected to be an emotional Rock? it's hard for me to get behind this because my ex was super abusive and looking back super insecure and I tried to do nothing but help her feel better bu…
/r/ExRedPill09/03/21 01:24 AM
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there's no such thing I was just saying that sarcastically because as a man I have found it very telling that someone could take away your masculinity and give it back based off of arbitrary s*** and it happened socially in real time that we don't even notice it Let's say I admit that I like Frozen. It's the modern day and nerdy stuff such as cartoons and even guys liking cartoons isn't looked down upon but because it is a cartoon made for kids I can expect that some people will look at me like …
/r/ExRedPill08/03/21 09:47 AM
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I was myself in the past and it led to abuse and more abuse and more abuse and me just feeling like more crap and no matter how many times I read this advice and take this advice my life still ends up the same because real life is s*** and people aren't and people aren't self-aware. Stop acting like you guys know any better.I hate the red pill and before that I was a feminist. Life is hard and confusing and I feel like I have to play some role because so far in these 24 years that's all the soci…
/r/ExRedPill08/03/21 09:42 AM
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I'm with the girl now but my heart is not even all the way in it because all I remember is pain growing up. The difference is though I had no choice but to push through and act like something I wasn't because I am a man I will never feel like I can just be because I'm constantly wondering if somebody's going to be measuring me by some arbitrary ruler of masculinity. we all know intellectually that masculinity and femininity coming of spectrum but that did not stop any bullies or any stereotyping…
/r/ExRedPill07/03/21 04:01 PM
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You gloss over way too many instances where feminist do the opposite and crush self-esteem. you were looking at this with the lens that all women are perfect which is exactly what feminist would disagree with my relationship failed because I broke up with her after she cheated on me and insulted me.looking back it was a super emotionally abusive relationship but she could get away with it because she was a girl and if I said anything I was less than a man
/r/ExRedPill07/03/21 03:59 PM
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that's crazy as it sounds other men have said this and it doesn't make them look good and I don't know why they think I want that lifestyle
/r/ExRedPill06/03/21 03:37 PM
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let's see giving up and blaming does not mean that it's not true or right and that's where you lose me because it seems like you're too busy trying to demonize or make them out the same as babies instead of actually understanding From my perspective everything you typed out seems to be arguing for the red pill. If I myself getting no success with all these other positive traits despite lacking the physical side, and then tomorrow wake up with the best body ever and still have these traits then i…
/r/ExRedPill06/03/21 03:37 PM
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It's amazing how in this day and age we're supposed to be trying to be understanding and yet throughout all of that you seem to think I have a distorted reality maybe I've seen these behaviors in close family and friends and people around me? Women on a separate species but men and women are raised literally different on how we are socialized and you'd be a fool if you did not realize that I hate that I do not smile when I'm walking in public but then my brain reminds me that I do that because w…
/r/ExRedPill06/03/21 03:31 PM
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Are you arguing for or against the red pill because I agree. as a conventionally attractive man who has probably not changed that much in The last 5 years I would probably be characterized as a neckbeard if I didn't have my looks I'm super nerdy and an artistic and I have a lot of femininity but if I did not look like a linebacker I probably would have had much worse bullying and no romantic success at all which kind of argues for the red pill in a way doesn't it even though I don't agree with i…
/r/ExRedPill06/03/21 03:29 PM
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It's both a person's jobs and I'm having trouble with a girl I'm talking to right now in this area I don't think she's used to leading because some positions are hard to get into because of our height difference as we're probably a full foot apart from each other. I told her I would like her to take the lead but I don't think she really understands what that means but everything is okay and it's not a big deal but it does depend on the couple
/r/ExRedPill04/03/21 11:31 PM
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Like a lot of ideologies there are tons of good things and tons of good things you can pick and take out but I don't like feminism because it did not help my own self-esteem as a young boy growing up and dabbling into feminist thought when you grow up by mostly women and all they tell you is every single horror story every single man ever did it does not make you excited to grow up or even get into relationship because every woman you meet will see you in the lens of whether or not you're some c…
/r/ExRedPill04/03/21 12:53 PM
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that's actually why I do not like the red pill or feminism it's because I'm a comic book artist so I know firsthand help powerful media can be As much as people trip on nerds I would say anime actually save my life just because of how many main characters there are that do use violence but also use their heart wits and empathy to win fights even though I have flaws with Steven universe I still enjoy it because the main character is a young boy who was raised by mostly women who wins most of his …
/r/ExRedPill03/03/21 01:23 PM
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I mean that as in no one is being physically hurt but it does contribute to something that we all are trying to fight against. A super feminist friend once told me to beware of the red pill because it's just like all those crazy magazines they used to sell to women about losing weight and looking like a pencil. The same advice columns will tell all these women to smile more and don't correct their man and all that crazy stuff which is sexist. I don't want a pencil thin girl nor do I want her to …
/r/ExRedPill03/03/21 01:14 PM
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I agree
/r/ExRedPill03/03/21 05:22 AM
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I get what you're saying I do blamepeople however but not in the way that you think People are vulnerable to suggestion persuasion and just bad ideas and usually that happens from a childhood to adulthood unfortunately and it's hard to break it took me until I was 17 to feel like a full person because there are so many crazy standards on manhood even now that I feel better so many of them are intertwined with dating and success with women and even though intellectually I know I shouldn't think o…
/r/ExRedPill03/03/21 05:22 AM
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It is prevalent in the black community especially with the separation of genders and I'm not one of those people who says you have to be married or have a title but most of this came from black women and not all the black women in my life just the other day my aunt defended me from my grandmother because I'm in an interracial relationship so best believe it's not everybody. It's just the idea or narrative is pushed so much and it has an effect on young men especially if you were like me who grew…
/r/ExRedPill02/03/21 08:56 PM
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I know I'm talking about the narrative that most men are crazy rapey and violent.All I have heard is that from every woman in my life and now I am of adult age.Middle school high school and college I never did any of these crazy things but they have definitely happened to me. I still think most women are all right but to the problem is group thinking and a lot of women will defend another woman before calling her out because in this current climate you cannot critique or criticize bad behavior t…
/r/ExRedPill02/03/21 08:32 PM
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Less angry and honestly I'm feeling less numb. But with everything that's happened I just feel so.... Disappointed I guess I should say?
/r/ExRedPill28/02/21 12:11 AM
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Apparently. I hate it.
/r/ExRedPill26/02/21 10:01 PM
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see we're taught that women are supposed to have agency and their women are strong so it's hard for me to believe that unless she was really psychologically out of control but even stating that I feel like that is also taking away from her agency This girl has me and her foster mother and others who could help her so I don't understand why she would choose to go after someone who abused her for help but I have talked to her and everything's good now That's what I mean when it feels like people a…
/r/ExRedPill25/02/21 01:10 AM
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thank you and I get what you're saying and that's why I hesitate to call them all hoochies because just because we come from a place doesn't mean it defines us. this girl has been through a lot personally and I do understand that I just hate the fact that that has put a wedge between us or I would hack the fact that she somehow ended up back with her abusive ex even if she didn't want to be with me because this girl really does not deserve it and needs to live her life positively I'm not just an…
/r/ExRedPill25/02/21 12:39 AM
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Sorry I've calmed down a little bit it just comes off as an excuse because as a man I'm expected to have radical responsibility or I guess I should say society expects me to have this responsibility even when it's not my fault it's my fault I do not understand why the other gender who grew up in the same generation can't have the same responsibility. I grew up listening to horror stories from almost every woman in my family I grew up witnessing my female peers going for these dudes and I keep th…
/r/ExRedPill25/02/21 12:28 AM
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What I mean is as a man I'm expected to have radical responsibility even when things aren't my fault I'm still at fault we all grew up hearing horror stories of abusers and especially being a black man that's all I heard from every female in my family and community I'm now a grown man and I'm not guilty of anything these women said growing up.and yet the same girls put themselves around horrible men over and over again and it feels like the good ones are paying for it yet at the same time I shou…
/r/ExRedPill24/02/21 11:57 PM
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At this moment it seems to be making sense you guys have to stop being so arrogant as to think that the red pill is somehow coming out of nowhere. Moments like this is exactly why the red pill took off
/r/ExRedPill24/02/21 11:36 PM
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With everything that's happening and how many people make excuses for her it's tempting.
/r/ExRedPill24/02/21 11:13 PM
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I meant that sarcastically I get what he meant by hoochies I don't see them that way however but that is the demographic I grew up with
/r/ExRedPill23/02/21 03:29 AM
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Something that I have noticed as a lot of fiction seems to display romance as all or nothing and you look at any cartoons or movie or TV series from the '90s all the way up to now and most main male characters usually are depicted as going through little hell on Earth to get attention. some things that are crazy to even consider as deal breakers well or deal breakers and I think that's another reason why we feel like we have to be perfect For everything that turns off a girl it will turn on anot…
/r/ExRedPill23/02/21 02:22 AM
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I'm trying to get out the hood for the last 6 years. Believe me it's not easy. I'm surrounded by nothing but hoochie b******
/r/ExRedPill22/02/21 11:23 PM
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I kind of agree and I'm kind of going through something similar right now. this girl's four up and down her abusive ex was well abusive yet I see her walking around with him? If you so abusive then why do you even want to be around him?
/r/ExRedPill22/02/21 03:01 PM
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the red pill came from somewhere and it's crazy that you guys think there's just a bunch of ignorant and crazy guys somewhere in a room who think about this stuff as if they didn't have experience with it hell I'm still trying to break away from red pill and I have every reason to think it's true Just yesterday I saw the girl I've been seeing come in my store with her ex-boyfriend and as soon as she saw me she ran off
/r/ExRedPill22/02/21 02:37 PM
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Just like any other thing that sells these guys main job is mostly to sell something and use colorful language and familiar narratives and biases to sell it and it's no different from any other ideology. I understand the red pill and get it because I am a man but I am also a man so I also completely understand that most men and women put on fronts and some people spend a lot of their time mastering putting on a mask or a front. in middle school I tried to be hard or awful and by the time my fres…
/r/ExRedPill21/02/21 06:32 PM
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I've had many friends and family members and acquaintances and co-workers share similar observations and they're not all the same and some of them are very unique but it is there
/r/ExRedPill18/02/21 02:21 AM
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The idea in the trope of the bad guy is cool and I say this from someone who grew up in the hood and surrounded by women who tried to go after these bad guys please believe me when I say they're not cool. these are the type of guys I used to fight in middle school and the type of grown men who tried to abuse me so I may be biased but I don't really see them as that. everything you typed out could be misconstrued or interpreted into something that could be considered sexist for both men and women…
/r/ExRedPill18/02/21 02:13 AM
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see now I have to ask what measures assertiveness because every time I hear a girl say that it makes me more confused because there are so many men who are not abusive and who aren't assholes who are assertive and outgoing and confident yet they still lose out to the most vicious men and it's mainly women the ones who are pushing this narrative. I've calling out so many female friends.for this way of thinking because they swear up and down that every man acts like XY and z yet I haven't and I kn…
/r/ExRedPill18/02/21 02:08 AM
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it comes from so many women saying that men act like XY and z in their last five boyfriends acted like XY and z but when a guy who does not fit that mold comes around he seen as weird or weak or unattractive or too nice but it can't be both ways and that's the problem
/r/ExRedPill18/02/21 02:06 AM
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And that's what the majority of the feminist are complaining about.I've kind of sense that since I was a kid because it seems like a lot of feminist complaints sound like they're talking about some type of abuse of ex-boyfriend but it's disingenuous because one woman only ever date a certain amount of men so it can't be every man that's doing this behavior. you can blame the culture but you can also say that the culture around women and how we treat women is also a problem for women and against …
/r/ExRedPill18/02/21 02:05 AM
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believe me it was such a humbling experience because I always sensed it from other men but other men usually aren't brave enough to admit it or even better yet act like their normal selves without feeling constrained to any masculine shackles. I'm pretty sure a lot of women go through the same thing. I got a super feminist friend who was super cool but she grew up with a super religious family.they try to mold her into the old 1950s model of what they thought a woman should be but it didn't work…
/r/ExRedPill18/02/21 01:50 AM
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See that kind of makes sense but I think the argument is flawed here when you say they're more outgoing. I will say that's something that kept me from hitting on girls when I was younger is that I didn't want to bother any girl or look like a creep especially being a big black guy. But it's crazy when people say they're more outgoing because I see outgoing as being true to yourself and doing things that you like even when you know you may face opposition. I know so many non-a****** men who are a…
/r/ExRedPill18/02/21 01:41 AM
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I disagree with this and I don't have daughters but I have little cousins and was raised nothing but by women and I hate this reasoning. so many my early experiences would abuse came from both boys and girls.I come from the hood and I remember having to fight grown men and grown women and argue with both grown men and grown women and when I was younger I had a female bias but as I got older and started going out more I realized that women can be just as much abusers hypocrites and sociopaths tha…
/r/ExRedPill18/02/21 12:23 AM
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Believe me he's one of the less toxic ones as he doesn't swear or say too much things that could be interpreted as misogyny and he does have experiences that do seem to make sense but as someone else said I usually take these guys advice with a grain of salt because they act just like the guys I beat up in middle school for bullying me Yet at the same time these videos do exist for a reason
/r/ExRedPill18/02/21 12:03 AM
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I kind of get it as the girl I'm talking to right now is super skinny and is trying to make her butt bigger but that does not make me think she's any less attractive and I've also been with girls who are thicker So we basically agree then. something that has been a great lesson for me in my journey with dating is learning more about people and you could find someone who looks like a 10 out of 10 on the outside but as soon as they open their mouth or they go out in public you can tell that their …
/r/ExRedPill11/02/21 10:37 PM
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Of course not but it seems to be a big factor as once again I'm a tall dude and ever since I was a kid somebody has had to bring that up whether it be about sports or talent and of course dating I'm over 6 ft so my mileage does vary from the average height but because I am not the average I have way too many experiences with curious situations and me being tall One girl stated she thought I was a thug because I was so damn big and how I look but my personality is very different. I really do wond…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/21 09:40 PM
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Partly because I've always been the tallest in my class my entire life you really do see the difference between people who are treated with certain bodies over others whether they be too tall or too skinny or too muscular or too fat or too Short or whatever so many people assumed I was some type of Slayer because I was big and that came from both men and women Sometimes we fail and dilute ourselves into thinking that we are masters of being open and not judging but sometimes we do and I am guilt…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/21 09:38 PM
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Of course that question was more of a rhetorical one And believe me in high school already went through all of that within my phases of trying to figure out what is appropriate while not making yourself a Target but it all worked out
/r/ExRedPill11/02/21 09:36 PM
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And there's the opposite where there are super short men but have a lot of personality. What's your point?
/r/ExRedPill11/02/21 09:35 PM
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I know it's not a personality trait and that's not what I'm saying but my point is that my experience does matter especially given that I am a tall man who has had short tall friends expressed jealousy within me and I have had women straight up tell me they liked it better because I was taller. I know women date people under 6 ft all the time but my point is whenever we're talking about attraction and standards and such is important to know that all sides play a role and what we say and how we a…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/21 09:34 PM
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See as a man I disagree completely because like I said if I had the same personality but was shorter and not as muscular I don't think I would have had a nice time and I'm not saying I have a good time growing up but height was an advantage.
/r/ExRedPill11/02/21 08:17 PM
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I agree which is why I think there's a certain bias when it comes to what we perceive as attractive and unattractive. For example I've been made fun of by both men and women for not falling for a supposed 10 out of 10 girl back in college and that is because despite the girl looking okay I genuinely was not that attracted to her She was attractive but not attract ive to me per se. I've been on the other side too to where I have been rejected like crazy but also attract attention from women who I…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/21 06:04 PM
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Yet I'm a man who has had similar observations and it is kind of pressing to think that most men don't take care of themselves. Plus attraction and taking care of oneself means something different to everyone. For example I just got my dreads cut off and I got responses that told me I should have kept them and I got responses that told me they needed to go? Who was right?
/r/ExRedPill11/02/21 05:57 PM
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And yet it is so common to see that type of thing especially with cosmetics and plastic surgery. I would argue that things such as basic grooming are already tried and tested and to stand out even more some type of body augmentation must be allowed and I don't agree with it but I see it so much.
/r/ExRedPill11/02/21 05:46 PM
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How do you know this.
/r/ExRedPill11/02/21 05:44 PM
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as a tall and conventionally attractive man I'm going to disagree because sometimes I wonder if I had the same traits and personality and was at 5 ft if I would have the same success instead of being at six foot. really it is amazing how much an advantage being tall is because my personality fits so much of the usual nerd but my height does give me an advantage
/r/ExRedPill11/02/21 05:42 PM
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It is crazy because right now I'm dating a girl who is an ex stripper and has some mental issues but I don't care because I also have issues and I don't judge but she keeps saying she likes me because of my kind and nice personality and I am flattered but in the back of my head I keep thinking it's just a translation into her thinking I'm weak or weird or somehow a manipulator for later on?
/r/ExRedPill11/02/21 12:44 AM
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And yet you still hear women complaining about not getting attention and not getting attention where they wanted. It's crazy because the girl I'm talking to right now is going through that whole yo-yo thing right now to where she thinks she's ugly yet get so much crazy attention which is human but also a little annoying because I do it too yet there are really unattractive people out there who do not get attention who may be a better human character than you or me or any potential date I've had.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/21 02:36 PM
1

That's kind of how I'm starting to see it my post feminist days simply because I kept seeing this type of behavior yet I did not get to see any of my male friends or even myself forget this type of defense from society If I was hurt or got in trouble even when it wasn't my fault it was still my fault. Nothing is ever a girl's fault even if she herself is putting herself into this position.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/21 10:55 PM
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my bad I don't mean to get angry but it is something I've noticed not only in this sub but others also where everyone's circle jerks and assumes they know the intentions of x y or z but that is literally breaking rule number one when it comes to social contact because everybody is expected to put on a front of some kind and most people usually don't reveal all of themselves until you get to know them or at least have a character that is open not to brag and I only say this because this is one th…
/r/ExRedPill06/02/21 10:53 PM
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nobody really knows what a person is like and sometimes we mistake ourselves to thinking that we are somehow special to be able to spot out these people and I say that as a person who is pretty social and is a leader and works in retail. Spotting potential theives and crackheads. Is something that I do on the normal and even still I don't know what their lives are outside of the five minutes they come into my store I've also been on the opposite spectrum to where somebody thinks they somehow kno…
/r/ExRedPill06/02/21 10:05 PM
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Get off your high horse and stop acting so high and mighty.I'm tired of people acting like they can tell or send somebody's ideas or thoughts because they can't and believe me you may think you can somehow tell red pill ideas from this guy but you can't. I can spot a feminist from thousands of miles away but just because they are feminist doesn't mean they're a man-hater either but you see how generalizing like that is crazy. I can usually tell by how they think or what words they choose to use …
/r/ExRedPill06/02/21 03:39 PM
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Okay then how would you suggest being more trusting towards others because I doubt you haven't mastered but I'm willing to listen
/r/ExRedPill06/02/21 02:55 PM
1

I'll be honest I do blame feminism as well because a lot of the hateful rhetoric does have an effect. You say I grew up with a Flawed idea of masculinity yet anytime I try out a different model it lets me getting bullied by either men or women. Also I am a man so my experience with doing all of this in real time is different from a woman's and I asked this with the utmost respect but how could you know if you are not a man. I'm not really feeling better because even though I let go of those thin…
/r/ExRedPill06/02/21 02:54 PM
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Of course not but why do you think things like nice guys and Simps and guys who worship women exist and also the opposite who turned into crazy haters and misogynists? You could argue that it's because we have a flawed idea of manhood and giving human nature of course every single man is going to be different. I had this very flawed idea when I was 14 that I would max out literally every single thing about myself before I would attempt to date and that led to years of not dating. and honestly ye…
/r/ExRedPill05/02/21 04:30 PM
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I did. not only did I have a complete and total transformation for myself personally but I started getting involved more with the community. I went out in the streets and protested and I gave speeches to people inside classrooms and clubs. when I tell you I was a feminist but I really do mean that as I did believe in it and still believe in it 80%. Different groups of people have always needed to fight and needed support for betterment and social change is slow but constant and any American shou…
/r/ExRedPill05/02/21 04:18 PM
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I'm not surrounding myself with women like this especially since I'm out of school but now that I am out of school I am starting to know this just how many women were like this and I just assumed it was normal. and like I said I have a date tonight so I'm not all the way out of the ballpark yet it is telling that you assume that I am stuck in some dishes cycle instead of just seeing my worldview as an observation on society because I feel as hell if I was a woman saying the same things in revers…
/r/ExRedPill05/02/21 04:04 PM
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But why isn't there a pushback against women's bias like there is men? Like seriously. It does get a little insulting when I am somehow expected to act apart or just agree with a woman because it's common social discourse instead of telling the truth I don't talk to my cousin or my aunt anymore because they hate men that much and over the years they stopped coming down my grandparents house because me and my grandfather are no longer going for it. One could blame my grandfather in his past trans…
/r/ExRedPill05/02/21 04:01 PM
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I'm kind of alone now and I actually have a date tonight but this is coming from all of my experiences from middle school all the way up as I said before I was involved in the political process as I went to a lot of protests and led a lot of clubs so this is something that I do care about. I'm worried about how women look at me because I have been falsely accused in the past and have the police called on me in the past because I'm a big black dude so I got to be aware Thousands of black men in t…
/r/ExRedPill05/02/21 03:51 PM
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Not every guy actually this is the female performance feud lens of a nice guy that keeps getting perpetuated. I don't doubt you've encounter this type of guy but every time I hear this narrative of a nice guy I can't help but think that it's too rehashed because you say he's doing it for a covert reason or to give off affection but that seems so normal in every relationship whether they be a nice guy or a nice girl or even a bad guy or a bad girl
/r/ExRedPill05/02/21 02:53 PM
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I've been single for most of the time but I have still gone out and party and went on dates that's not what I mean what I mean is that so many people will call my personality type that other nice guy before even getting to know me yet if it was true that nice guys or somehow unattractive or weird or just can't attract a woman or whatever then I wouldn't get as much attention as I have while growing up while retaining the same personality traits I had a couple of years back I'm pretty much okay f…
/r/ExRedPill05/02/21 01:02 AM
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after all the discussion that's had on this very topic I don't want to hear something like I'm overthinking it especially after being a victim on both sides
/r/ExRedPill05/02/21 12:02 AM
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see that right there is the sexist part because instead of just saying it it is gross you have to come up with some excuse that basically makes it okay for women to do it and demonizes Men.
/r/ExRedPill04/02/21 11:14 PM
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How would you know if you're not a man
/r/ExRedPill28/01/21 11:54 PM
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I'm a big man
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/21 11:52 PM
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As a black man I can't accept it because I've been at the mercy of this type of thinking. I get it but do I have a right to walk around terrified of every white person
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/21 11:51 PM
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Men get sexualized too and it's just as degrading It's not that complex It is a double standard but I have been on the side of someone who has been freaked out and it does not feel good but also I have little means of fighting back because as a man I'm expected to enjoy it which makes it worse and other women have told me that I believe it's more noticeable because men are socialized to pursue and give a display of romance while women sit there. I was raised by women and they have their own vers…
/r/ExRedPill28/01/21 05:15 PM
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I agree with you and bravery and being a good person even though you know you may look weak is even more admirable yet I find myself not being able to accept that as I get older just because of how much abuse I've taken one of my cashiers was literally crying in the middle of the store in the middle of the day because her wallet got stolen and people still consoled her
/r/ExRedPill28/01/21 05:10 PM
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I've seen it work though especially when it comes to the social stuff From high school to college all the big guys on campus were the dudes who could at least perfect the image of being a douchebag even if they really weren't behind the scenes I can usually tell because they all think I'm some type of linebacker and want to be my friend but a lot of these guys really do absorb what they see on TV
/r/ExRedPill28/01/21 04:11 PM
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I get the sentiment but I just had this conversation with the older folks in my family and all the stuff that they try to instill in US, they did themselves I had to call out my dad when he tried to give me some speech about responsibility because the man literally left me and ignores me.... His first born I get your sentiment but people need to get off their high horses when they think there's somehow above everybody else because no one really is
/r/ExRedPill28/01/21 04:10 PM
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I get it but that fear / inability to be vulnerable comes with a good reason For everyone person male or female that compliments me on whatever thing I am doing that is non-masculine, there will be 10 more people who will laugh or at least judge. A woman crying in the street will be met with help and sympathy A man crying in the street will be met with scorn or ridicule. Men have to fight because if you walk away you are still seen as a p**** If you try to de-escalate conflict you will be seen a…
/r/ExRedPill28/01/21 04:06 PM
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No I'm not Girls make no calms about getting pursued until it happens the way they don't want or think is stupid and I'm not coming at you personally but it's just been an observation
/r/ExRedPill28/01/21 02:34 PM
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It does have negative connotations because it shows that you are willing to walk a double standard I could easily say that women having the belief that they should be courted and chased this sexist and reductionist but many things can be that I do not like the idea of that girl's expect me to Chase in court them to the end of the Earth
/r/ExRedPill28/01/21 01:59 PM
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see I see all of this as an excuse and I get your reasoning but as a man I'm told I can't have any excuse and I have to pursue I don't understand why women can't adopt the same thing I've been single for 5 years and I still tried to pursue but I will most likely still be single for the next 5 years if I decide to stop because most women don't pursue you say women get condescending results from pursuing and you say you don't need to explain it but that once again is an excuse because many get all…
/r/ExRedPill28/01/21 01:53 PM
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And the thing is you don't want them to be right but after you have so many experiences confirming it for you then it is hard to ignore it. my ex-girlfriend who was super abusive straight up told me it was okay for her to complain and b**** because she was a girl.those were the words that came out of her mouth and that let me know exactly how she viewed me and Men
/r/ExRedPill28/01/21 01:46 PM
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I don't mean this just for women who I've tried to date but also women in my family and close friends I had two friends who visited me while I was in college and the college douchebag unfortunately saw them he starts going on and on about how she's cute and it starts pissing me off because she is genuinely a great girl and is doing very great from where we came from because we're both from the hood but she worked hard and now owns a business she can tell why was so angry after the interaction an…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/21 06:20 PM
2

I'm sorry. I'm sorry that happened to you and it is not your fault
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/21 05:51 PM
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But you would think you would grow out of that by like nine I as a man like looking at attractive women as well but I also have enough experience to know that a very attractive girl on the outside could have a vicious personality and an ugly girl on the outside could be the most awesome girl ever I hate when they use that double standard because so many men's view of Attraction is so different I've had girls get so jealous because I've like a girl who was not a 10 out of 10 in their eyes and I'v…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/21 05:47 PM
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whenever someone criticizes men especially when it comes to romance or social interactions they always go straight to blaming men and saying that it's self-inflicted because their insecure or weird or angry etc when it's women's insecurities and Hang-Ups it's not their fault though And to try to add insult to injury they say that a lot of women can sense this insecurity or toxicity and that makes no sense because I know so many women who get in horrible relationships all the time. I'm sure that …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/21 05:45 PM
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Yes you can technically criticize anybody at any time but you are right when people might not want to listen or take it seriously or even take it in a completely different way I mean as a man I doubt I could actually put a woman's business on social media without expecting any backlash A woman can do it to a man because it's assumed that men like it and women are harmless and those are both sexist statements but that is what most people operate out of because biases are still very strong. And I …
/r/ExRedPill27/01/21 04:14 PM
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I agree and it's so hurtful too men and women because I get where it comes from but if a man has proof that he has not done any of these things then that should be it but these women don't want to hear it I work in retail and a lot of my old friends from college in high school still come in and sometimes I'll ask my old female friends why they think every man is going to try to get them. They can never give me an answer but only reply with " because y'all do." There was no thinking or nuance but…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/21 04:12 PM
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That's exactly my point. It is really insulting when they say that as if they can somehow feel all of your hopes and dreams and insecurities and wishes and strengths and weaknesses. no girl or man is God and no one knows everything and even if you do have some inkling about a person there's still no way you can 100% know everything about them I got so many girls think I was some type of alpha douche because I looked the part. That's really it but every time they come at me like I'm some type of …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/21 04:00 PM
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Exactly and I see you from both sides. on one hand I do get that if a girl has been mugged or salted that she would probably have a fear about it yet at the same time why should you have to take your time out to walk her especially considering that you're already seen as a potential threat probably by her friends at least if you're not already close to her. and you are right because no one thinks about all the men who have to walk home alone but we should be able to handle it because we're men. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/21 03:58 PM
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Nothing is wrong with that until they don't hold themselves to The standard Which means if you are this open you cannot criticize anybody else. I think statistically speaking women have like five partners and men have like seven throughout their life but I know of that's true because there's a lot of studies and sample sizes don't represent entire populations. I personally do not care about the number but it's more of a behavior. I as a man cannot do these things without being criticized or pena…
/r/ExRedPill27/01/21 03:57 PM
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For the women that I fooled around with and it's not all of them but it's not really that their Instagram models are that they are XY and z but they have the mindset or act like XYZ which makes it look bad Like yeah you could be a pretty normal girl and could be a relationship girl and only sleep with one dude. But it's not really the sleeping with part, If you keep posting on social media and keep company with the same type of people, and you keep posting about how men are horrible and giving o…
/r/ExRedPill27/01/21 03:32 PM
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Yes
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/21 02:00 PM
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Exactly I went clubbing a lot in college and girls did things to me that if I did that to them I would have caught a case I went out with one of my friends and she insisted that I just grab a girl and dance with her.I turn around and look her straight in the eyes and say that it's okay for her as a tiny woman to grab anybody and dance I'm a big black dude. I'm not grabbing no random woman. And a crazy thing is some girls like it and some girls even expect this type of move to be made. Some girls…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/21 04:43 AM
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I know and they keep recommending me there and I got banned I know some of them think they have good intentions and that's how it traps you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/21 04:41 AM
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I'm pretty sure way back in middle in high school I probably said or done some stupid things and an attempt to impress a girl but that's just it. I never tried to grab someone or assault anyone because that's crazy and from a girl's perspective especially since young teenage girls are just as insecure and out of the loop as young males, sometimes their own insecurities and hang ups manifest into this I was reading some thread a couple of years back to where a woman admitted that she used to act …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/21 02:55 AM
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I feel way better than I did a couple years ago but I'm also nowhere near the level of comfort I was when I was younger and I'm trying to get that back the stuff we talk about here is also why I've been in a weird funk and identity crisis because I was riding a pretty good wave of self-improvement and I did genuinely feel like I can live out my days just as I was without worrying about someone policing my masculinity. Obviously that's not the case and very few men can live that life because ther…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/21 02:50 AM
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Well let me ask you this. What is your personal opinion on this
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/21 02:19 AM
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and as crazy as it was when I was a kid I didn't see it as some crazy abusive type stuff but now that I'm adult I can imagine doing what some of adults did to me and other kids or the stuff they did around us I had a super abusive dude who was my aunt's boyfriend at the time and he used to abuse me and his own sons now he's a baby daddy of 10 and two of his sons are in jail same thing with my own mother and father and I do love them but they are flawed. My mom is cut me twice in both hands I hav…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/21 01:40 AM
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As a black man I agree with this but try telling a super powerful yet impressional and vulnerable mind that
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/21 01:24 AM
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Exactly and I remember my friend telling me as he traveled up to New York he got mugged and of course he's all right but even within myself we just blew it off because it is so normalized for men to go through the type of thing and even more so just to brush it off. That's not to say that it's without empathy because even my own abusive ex cried when some guy got beat up and had his wallet took it in front of us one day I've been stabbed and sliced open and shot at all before the age of 22. I've…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/21 01:20 AM
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I know not every feminist is crazy though and I do love women and I was raised by women and no man in his right mind wants to hurt a woman heck even my own mother and my aunt just a couple weeks ago told me they didn't like women growing up just because of how snappy they were to each other and of course you can pass that off as just females being teenagers just like the men but when they present this crazy, almost near apocalyptic view of men. I grew up with absolutely no confidence in hating m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/21 12:22 AM
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And just like the opposite I think a lot of people would get an Awakening about what dating is and actually what they want because I doubt most of these guys who have no trouble getting women can date all of these women and vice versa. I have a friend in high school who everybody wanted and looking back,on the surface it seems like he was getting all the girls but in truth this guy had a steady girlfriend but every girl already like them so you can see how that just made him even more popular. T…
/r/ExRedPill26/01/21 01:07 AM
1

I agree with number three but number one and two should not be an excuse especially since that's what we men are told since we are like two.
/r/ExRedPill26/01/21 01:04 AM
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I was raised pretty feminist and I got super serious in college and I am an artist and a comic book artist and I was no stickler to absorbing Media made by women so I completely get where most women are coming from but what made me leave the feminist movement Was that I still did not feel fully comfortable despite being better because I know that despite my personality the world is going to look at me and expect something else because I am a man.and a thing was the feminist and everybody else in…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/21 05:39 PM
1

the problem with Deeming something hateful though is that most of the stuff discussed on here I have heard from men and women of all backgrounds in my life I don't agree with anything of the red pill but I understand why most people would believe it because it seems real. That's the problem is that it seems real and it takes a lot of work to be your own person and think for yourself but that's just it. It takes active work and ignoring things that seem so true When I got out of my depression bac…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/21 05:34 PM
1

As a former nice guy.....I'm still a nice guy because I was never some type of crazy and secretive angry person underneath my nicest and even today most of my friends tell me that my problem is that I don't like hurting people. I'm a big black dude and ever since I was a kid people have made it known to me that they fear me.walking into a store or a bank or school or even your own job sometimes is a challenge because you know the atmosphere and I'm not saying it happens all the time but it happe…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/21 05:30 PM
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the problem comes from drawing arbitrary lines and categories instead of actually and analyzing what it is like for the other gender because I'm really starting to think people just want their side to be right instead of actually making progress which is so bad and messed up Sometimes I really do wonder if most feminists actually understand what it is like to be an average man growing up because they missed the mark and it's almost if if they are sitting down and telling you what you should thin…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/21 05:25 PM
0

No women do not pursue and not at the level that men do and that was a nice attempt at trying to shut me down and make it seem like I'm some weirdo nice guy who knows nothing about what he's talking about but I've had so many of those before. you keep saying it's risking bodily harm but statistically speaking that can't be right because most women are assaulted and raped by people they know. I know many women who have been pursued by men and they told them no and it was cool or they even said ye…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/21 05:20 PM
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And I get that but most men are not to blame for that and especially the younger generations and that is a fact because I am very different from how my grandfather is and I get what you're talking about but once again I got as much patriarchal and abusive stuff from the minimal life as I did from the women and I get what you're saying but that does not take away the fact that women do damage as well. my mother was the one who kept forcing me into sports even though I told her I hated it and that…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/21 05:12 PM
1

Social media is a good start then again you can't force people to do something and social change is constant but it takes a long time for the common populace to see in effect Start telling boys to value themselves outside of girls and tell them to not give out attention so much. And tell girls that they are powerful and have agency and tell them if they like a guy go after them Of course it's not easy and hormones and biology and nerves and immaturity and mismatch expectations are a thing but mo…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/21 05:05 PM
1

I completely understand it is brainwashing and we boys got the opposite end. And I don't think most dudes are going to start being serial harassers.even back in middle school when I had no idea what I was doing after the second time I would back off a girl because I was that nervous and terrified of getting it wrong or looking stupid. I was taught that I have to be super assertive and masculine and be muscly and have tons of money and take no mess from anyone to be successful with women. I'm try…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/21 03:48 PM
2

I'd most definitely agree that not all feminists should be a thing and it is true that not all feminists are feminazis or crazy Half the females in my family will call themselves feminists and one of my favorite teachers who help me a lot in college was a feminist my best friend who was native American is a feminist and he treats his girl pretty nicely and they have been going steady for a while. You would think with his personality he would be drowning in women but he's only been with her and s…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/21 03:46 PM
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Exactly. I've made friends with girls who swore up and down that day thought that I was trying to get after them which is really telling and probably means that they had a crush on me because I genuinely only pursued them as friends but so many girls are already used to so much attention that it's a little off-putting that they somehow expect it This communication problem is really big as well. If a girl came at me and wanted my number which has happened, I wouldn't make her feel like s*** and I…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/21 03:43 PM
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You think I show a little understanding. You are not the queen of what every woman is and is supposed to think and just because you have your own experiences do not mean every other woman doesn't My mom is a strong Democrat yet she hates abortion.my own mother straight up told me she doesn't like the feminist movement because she has three black sons and she has to worry about that which I do respect but that is not to say that my mother somehow internalizes misogyny. She's a woman with her own …
/r/ExRedPill25/01/21 03:37 PM
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Oh I know that. Most rapes are made by friends and family Still women would have more power.woman would have more power in choosing and being able to see who is who because apparently a lot of women still can't despite what I've been told I actually found out those stats while listening to a civil rights activist because he was doing an anti-racism PSA on how big black men are seen in society. And just like he said you are right in that most rapes are committed by family and friend. Which kind o…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/21 03:36 PM
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I'm sorry and I shouldn't be so angry I was raised by nothing but women Conversations about consent and assault and even how I'm supposed to be treated have been abound ever since I was a kid.we have a cousin who was doing much better now with three grown children of her own but she was abused by her father growing up and it had an effect on her and on the family. we lived up the street from this man and every time he will walk down the street my mom would force all of me and my cousins to stay …
/r/ExRedPill25/01/21 03:33 PM
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No it's not going to take me in it's going to take women being comfortable and brave enough women cannot be strong and be victims at the same time and I'm tired of the excuse that somehow men made this situation when I as a man absolutely hated and I've had to complete opposite experience. You may be projecting but you have no idea which man thinks you area white or slut or not. one of my best female friends who was like a sister to me is super promiscuous with a high body count but I love her t…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/21 03:31 PM
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Which I hate that reasoning because all I remember growing up is about how men were awful and mean and apparently my experience isn't so different because a lot of guys in my generation sometimes don't approach women at all out of fear of being a creep and out of fear of humiliation I don't really care about the rejection itself but most girls aren't nice and will use that as weapons against you and I have too many experiences with something like that I hate that girl somehow have the reasoning …
/r/ExRedPill25/01/21 03:27 PM
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And this is why I try so hard because if you think that is what happened and if that is what you got out of reading that and you are a raging dumbass DON'T WANT TO BLAMES WOMEN FOR BEING RAPED. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF MORE WOMEN PURSUED THEN IT WOULD MAKE IT MUCH HARDER FOR THE TYPE OF GUYS WHO WOULD RAPE. INSTEAD OF WOMEN JUST STANDING THERE AND ACTING LIKE DAMSELS IN DISTRESS AND ACTING LIKE THEY HAVE NO AGENCY,WHY DON'T THEY LIKE MEN START LEARNING HOW TO APPROACH PEOPLE AND TRY TO FORM CON…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/21 03:23 PM
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That seems to make sense The actual sex part is the shortest part. The whole courting game is essentially that looking or already finding someone and then sparking interest and then maybe forming a friendship or a certain Bond or whatever. Then the sex happens and then afterward you may cuddle or even be exclusive or talk about the future and kids and stuff I forgot the statistics but most people break up usually around three months or so I believe if they're not too compatible. That's not to me…
/r/ExRedPill22/01/21 03:13 PM
2

What do you mean by narc partner
/r/ExRedPill22/01/21 03:10 PM
1

How was it irrelevant
/r/ExRedPill22/01/21 01:37 AM
1

My bad geez. Why so hostile
/r/ExRedPill22/01/21 01:37 AM
1

No one said it was you f****** bastard. How about you just ignore me from now on and not say anything to me since you love coming here and f****** with me
/r/ExRedPill22/01/21 12:41 AM
1

oh no it's not I am not doing so well on the saving but I do well enough just to get by check to check so it's not a total struggle and what I mean is I've had other higher paying jobs before. When I was still in school I worked like five different jobs on and off.about three of those were in a factory and two of those were in fast food and the one I am in right now is retail though I'm back at $9 because I demoted myself being a retail manager is not worth it simply because you are held to a hi…
/r/ExRedPill21/01/21 06:32 PM
1

I'm in art school dropout and going back to art school is easier said than done.I have worked other jobs before though so getting a job isn't too much of a worry for me
/r/ExRedPill21/01/21 06:23 PM
2

My bad I use my voice a lot when I'm typing on Reddit as I'm using my phone it's hard it's the only thing keeping me from hurting myself and other people right now because it's just been that bad in my patients when I was younger is gone. I was riding a pretty nice wave of hard work without any weed or alcohol but I kept failing and decided that I needed something to at least give me a happy boost.It is bad and I do regret it a little bit but all I remember is putting in the work for three cars …
/r/ExRedPill21/01/21 06:21 PM
2

I currently make $9 an hour and get paid every two weeks and I've been trying to save on and off for five years. Luckily I've reduced my hours so I have more free time to actually find another job. I'm trying to work on it
/r/ExRedPill21/01/21 05:49 PM
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It's not though and I get it but it's not I have witnessed so many people who fit everything in your complete entire Post history whom you say is unattractive and yet I see them get laid in form relationships ALL THE TIME I GET PEOPLE WANT TO HELP BUT I'M TIRED OF EVERYBODY THROWING AROUND THIS FALLACY THAT IS JUST THE BARE MINIMUM BECAUSE I WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND THE BARE MINIMUM AND I'M STILL SINGLE
/r/ExRedPill21/01/21 04:34 PM
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Was riding a pretty good wave of self-affirmation and honestly just finally finding my place and I attract a girl who ends up cheating on me and completely destroying my newfound confidence. I didn't fully go red pill but it was only after I kept trying to find new love after her that I decided to look up the red pill only because I wanted to find new love but I couldn't. While this toxic girl could find it so much easier than I could.
/r/ExRedPill21/01/21 04:18 PM
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Lol. Well I am a black man and I have thought about it from time to time. like what's going on nowadays with the Karen's calling the police is absolutely nothing new but it's only on display now because of the power of cameras and smartphones I've had so many incidents in my youth when dealing with some crazy white girl who was either entitled or is terrified of something and I just think into myself that must be so nice.
/r/ExRedPill21/01/21 01:29 PM
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see the problem with this type of thinking is that a lot of people have tried this mindset out and have had this mindset and still lost I used to be you.I never told anybody that they were victims of course because I have no right to say that but I used to be so positive and used to run around telling everybody else to be positive and now I'm back in the same place despite all of my positive mindset. don't get me wrong if your life got better bye you having that mindset that is good but it's not…
/r/ExRedPill21/01/21 01:18 PM
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Op I don't have an easy answer for you but I completely understand. A lot of young men are getting dual messages to wear they have to be the ultimate Don draper and drift with confidence and self-esteem and with and charm and money and status and those things take years and sometimes you can get one or two of those things and still fall short.but we're also told that our masculinity is harmful and shameful and disgusting and how we are accosted threat and danger and that is something I'm still t…
/r/ExRedPill21/01/21 01:09 PM
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but then we have to question what is a pushover and overly emotional because nine times out of 10 most women are exactly dead but I'm still expecting not to be because I'm a man and now you see why it gets crazy it's crazy when you say they don't want to push over or someone overly emotional but all I remember from my abusive ex was how much of her emotions were out of control.most girls who want a guy who's super stoic are usually the ones who are emotionally unstable and want a strong guy to f…
/r/ExRedPill21/01/21 01:07 PM
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I get that or it could just be that I am empathetic and have experience with being on both sides. Just the other day I started horse playing around with my cousin which I hate doing but I'm a man and it's expected. I'm a pretty big guy and I know if I can try I can knock a guy out,so I always try to refrain myself because no one wants to look like an a****** and being a big black dude who is huge there is also a double danger as most people see me as a threat already So he comes up to me while h…
/r/ExRedPill20/01/21 08:44 PM
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Your first part I agree with But the second I do because how can we know if it's fake nice and not actually genuine niceness. I remember being 17 and 18 and I was pretty much the same and I was honestly much more healthier and patient back then, be it, I was less wise and more naive But a lot of my genuine kindness was never fake and I actually used to berate myself for even accidentally offending people but once again you cannot help that because something I learned is that you could be literal…
/r/ExRedPill20/01/21 08:04 PM
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There's no way to know that and all of this is so subjective and I hate that nice guy has turned into some type of negative connotation. I know guys who are nicer and kinder than me who do better yet I bet if they came on Reddit they will be bombarded by all types of messages calling them entitled and how they're not really nice. There is a certain demographic of girls who do go after toxic men and I think that's what those guys are describing because all our lives we've been told everything not…
/r/ExRedPill20/01/21 07:44 PM
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The problem is Nice Guy has turned into some crazy thing that needs to be analyzed A lot of guys are just like straight up nice without any crazy ulterior motive or design or plan especially considering that most people have already confirmed that most nice people are nice already but that doesn't mean that nice people aren't allowed to get angry or frustrated also I've been told I was too nice by a lot of women and even my own abusive ex told me she really wanted to be with me because I was kin…
/r/ExRedPill20/01/21 07:43 PM
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I made it this honestly how it feels and judging from the woman side of things it seems like it's not better for them either just because of how this game is It really does feel like romance is some type of Lost art. So many people want to have sex so fast and move so fast and I do feel like I'm an outsider looking in at this super mature club I'm not allowed in yet. I've self-improved a lot but I'm still waiting for the day when this is somehow supposed to make me confident and attract women be…
/r/ExRedPill20/01/21 07:12 AM
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I know these may be outliers but I could have to say it because it happens and it does damage My first girlfriend cheated on me and then after years of trying to reconnect I find out she's sleeping with a 35-year-old of course we were broken up and giving her history it kind of makes sense yet at the same time this girl craves male validation and strings a lot of guys alongis my fault for being so young and stupid Yet at the same time it still happens. One minute she's smoking a joint with me in…
/r/ExRedPill20/01/21 06:08 AM
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Isn't that what girls act like act like? I've literally meant so many girls who count up guys like Pokemon. It's not just a male thing or a red pill thing
/r/ExRedPill19/01/21 09:20 PM
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You mentioned loving your body it seemed to strike a cord because that is something I don't really experience as a man. In the past I worked out like crazy and I tried to love my body and for a time I did and even now I am wasting your in tone but that's more so of a change in diet and more cardio from walking than weight lifting as I did in high school I've always felt envious to be honest, do you think you are conventionally attractive and that is also why you like and love your body. As an ar…
/r/ExRedPill19/01/21 04:31 AM
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Are you male or female
/r/ExRedPill19/01/21 02:32 AM
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Exactly now look at you running like a b**** can't even f****** stay and talk
/r/ExRedPill18/01/21 10:15 PM
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The purpose is to be actually happy and content with oneself and sometimes it really does come from within and it does not matter how many other people say it and that's actually something I had to learn when I was younger. For example something that made me feel good was that I give great customer service and my family and friends here about it from my customer base. Now don't get me wrong I was feeling a little down because we all have that one super critical boss but hearing that from other p…
/r/ExRedPill18/01/21 08:08 PM
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See now this is where it gets confusing. you say that you have to constantly remind yourself but that is actually something that did help me for a while because as you mentioned before I got tired of the fake modesty or being ashamed of having achieved stuff.Actually had to tell myself that I was not that bad and I had something proud of Personally loving yourself seems to be just that while doing everything you said.I ruined a constantly but I have to remind myself that sometimes it's just that…
/r/ExRedPill18/01/21 07:35 PM
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And this is why I do not understand you guys because you completely ignored what I typed out and then wrote out your own f****** assumption You don't sincerely wish me good luck you're just acting like a f****** a****** You keep saying as if it's some choice and that's what I am so confused about you say don't make women's validation the center but last time I did not make it the center it backfired
/r/ExRedPill18/01/21 04:43 PM
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I don't even stay on Reddit enough to care what an up vote even is Now you're the one making assumptions
/r/ExRedPill18/01/21 04:31 PM
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And I'm telling you I tried what you just suggested and it did not work why is that so hard to believe that you can do all of that and it not work? like dude I just went through your post history and you sound just like me when I was younger and that's why I keep telling you it does not work for everybody.it's a good thing that you are in a better place don't get me wrong but all of that is no guarantee to get a woman and it never was. I put it down because I'm tired of everyone thinking that th…
/r/ExRedPill18/01/21 04:31 PM
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Like I just told myself I have done everything already and failed and I go back and continue again and fail if I keep going back to being positive and authentic and not negative and keep hoping and keep failing what am I supposed to feel? You guys always act like you have every answer then answer me this. Don't leave now just because I'm not going to f****** kiss your ass
/r/ExRedPill18/01/21 03:59 PM
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I hate the red pill in puy for the same reasons as they preach you to do x y and z and then some result will happen. you say don't make it at the center of your universe well it seems to me I got to because trying to be cool and optimistic and sensitive and kind while being positive and not caring did not help me in the slightest no one saying women will lift you out for you no one saying they're going to fix it no one's saying this is a guarantee and no one's saying this is happening all the ti…
/r/ExRedPill18/01/21 03:33 PM
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Hold up. On phone with therapist
/r/ExRedPill18/01/21 03:22 PM
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Exactly. I'm done. I'm tired. I did move like that. I know they aren't they aren't video games.
/r/ExRedPill18/01/21 03:13 PM
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I hate this type of thinking though. Really don't feel like they are the icing on the cake anymore especially after what happened to me according to all the advice that people give that was not supposed to happen to me.I self improved and I worked hard and I went out and embarrassed myself day in and day out again and again to make myself better but there is also no guarantee that that was going to lead to anything. I can't stand when we give out the advice of just self-improved because I did it…
/r/ExRedPill18/01/21 02:12 PM
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this is a dating issue but it starts to become something a little bit more sinister because we are already seeing that so much of this crazy attention is not real and it's not beneficial to women or men Despite everything in between the dating and the approaching,it is clear that both men and women are not happy with this current situation. Just on another post I posted that, at least I believe,most men are going to wind up looking weird or creepy or get it wrong anyway when pursuit of any woman…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/21 11:40 PM
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I was in France for a short time, but it does seem like European culture seems to be less in your face than American culture, which I think is a good thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/21 09:15 PM
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I'm 24 I've only had one serious girlfriend and another one who am I really not I tried to have a fling but it only ended with a blowjob because I honestly just could not get hard for the girl. She was attractive and there was nothing wrong with her personally but I just felt like it was so wrong trying to mess around with her only for the sake of it. But then again this girl was on a break from her boyfriend which really isn't a break. I have a best friend in college who I was super into and sh…
/r/ExRedPill17/01/21 05:38 PM
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What I mean is when you are approached a lot you have to realize that every man is literally different and is working on his own personal experiences. I hate when girls somehow start generalizing guys especially the guys who fail in their attempts because it's cool and completely okay that you don't like this guy personally but when you start overanalyzing this guy then it starts to seem kind of hateful and mean So many girls say they want this guy to pursue like this but then he does that and t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/21 05:23 PM
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Exactly. I'm actually implications of that and you hear stories of people getting divorced because of something like that. They are out of their party years and there's no need to act out or be number one all the time and they suddenly find themselves no longer attracted or even bored with their partner. Don't get me wrong everyone should shake it up and be fun and all of that but for all of it and not just their fun parts. My ex was very abusive not just to me but honestly herself too and other…
/r/ExRedPill17/01/21 05:08 PM
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See as a guy I've had the opposite.it seems like more women at flirty in real life and in public when I'm not trying to impress them. One girl came in and gave me her number right after I talked to her and her friend. I guess it's true when they say you grow into your looks because I keep getting compliments and on that but as a guy is really not important and what I have always wanted is just a normal relationship with one girl We're growing up I thought all of the skills and hard work are all …
/r/ExRedPill17/01/21 04:53 PM
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Yes I think her name is Anna akana I watch her too she went out on a date with a girl and then she really understood how it was because this girl still wanted her to act like a man basically even though they were both girls her date still wanted her to wine and dine her and impress her. She still wanted her to pay for the bill even though they were both girls. Sometimes I really do wonder if girls really do want any egalitarian relationship or they just want the older model without criticism. if…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/21 04:21 PM
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I've seen this video many times and similar people have made similar observations but with most women actually start approaching though? I truly believe that a lot of women would understand more men if they actually went out there and got rejected and knew the anxiety of trying to look cool and swab while approaching the woman especially in public where you risk getting laughed at or humiliation Also girls need to learn how to reject gracefully.which means if there is a guy that fancies you and …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/21 03:34 PM
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I actually used to live the opposite where I would let it go day in and day out and I'm tired of being a bigger person no I'm not feeling sorry for myself I'm pretty angry because I thought when I got to this age I would have to stop with this nonsense. you should not have to learn to deal with anything especially if you are innocent and you being a big imposing male cannot be an excuse anymore.if you really were big and imposing then people would act like it but they only use it to make themsel…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/21 03:26 PM
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I have at least 10 friends I can count on social media who post every day of the week about how they hate this man or how another man did this. If I did that I would be called everything under the Sun. These girls say they hate dudes but their entire friends list is compiled of every single dude. I know it's not every girl but I've seen it first hand so many times and I have been a victim of it also
/r/ExRedPill17/01/21 03:09 PM
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I'm pretty sure it's not even most girls but it is not a minority especially since it's so ingrained inside of the culture to act like it Then again I live down south so it could be different.
/r/ExRedPill17/01/21 03:09 PM
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Exactly and that's why I can't really agree with him and as him anymore because a lot of girls should be encouraged to approach as well and you are right because it does affect the guys who are usually shy or at least do care about women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/21 03:05 PM
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not every girl is like you though and I have met so many girls who are the opposite who seem very spoiled and who love the attention from dudes only to turn around and talk smack about dudes later.
/r/ExRedPill17/01/21 02:57 PM
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That's really scary. no one should be wanting to date anyone who causes harm whether it be physical or financial or mental or whatever especially to the point if it's starting affecting generations down the line straight up as I get older I have really been trying to understand my parents and I'm less angry at them but it's only for the fact that they instilled so much values in me that they themselves did not even try to live by They say don't do this and that and the other but that's exactly w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/21 06:35 PM
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So what's the point of posting. What's the point of even talking if no one wants to hear with you say yet we are all taught to have our own opinions and fight for what we have to say. no one is saying women can't make choices when I am saying is after you make a choice do not blame a whole set of men especially if you did not date them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/21 06:32 PM
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Which I am inclined to agree. I hope for a day where that can be true especially for men because at this moment all dating and it's walls and evils seem to be set on men and what they're perceived attitudes are. like I stated above I've literally had an argument with two close female friends because they perceived to somehow know what I think and what my actions are. the same thing that they accuse men of doing they do too men all of the time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/21 06:18 PM
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And that's a shame that you're viewed as somehow a political liability. I enjoyed this song because I'm also left wing and I also care about these issues. instead of listening to the thoughts and desires of actual dudes.like I don't want to turn it into an argument but think about what you just said. most issues men should feel they care about usually come from the men who want to make their desires and thoughts known to debate. Maybe I should have moved this to a dating sub instead but I felt l…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/21 06:16 PM
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That's a great way just to glance over and minimize Anger begets anger and hate begets hate I wasn't just mentally abused I also got physically abused a lot by my mom. I remember having to fight both my stepfather and my mother at the same time one morning just recently I've reconciled with another Aunt who also took her anger out on me and embarrassed me in front of my friends One Day by coming downstairs and picking a fight with me. I never needed any lectures about not doing anything crazy an…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/21 06:15 PM
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I'm not even super conservative. I'm very much liberal and I don't really care about the act of getting or having sex. It's how we treat each other afterward and during and I hate that if I somehow get with a girl and it does not work out but we have a child together, I will be somehow seen as a deadbeat even though society does not know what happened to us personally. I know so many men who are not deadbeats but we should not have to put this guilty until proven innocent vibe on them. that's wh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/21 06:04 PM
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I've had two steady girlfriends and tons of dates. I never said they should or should not do. What I said is do not date a man and then get upset about what he does and then keep dating this type over and over again only to come with the crazy conclusion that all men are trash. what you are accusing me of or what you perceive is exactly what I'm talking about from the other side. Imagine having to listen to your mother and aunts and cousins rant and rave on and on, about what this man did or wha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/21 06:01 PM
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Maybe you're right. I tried to keep up with current events.when I was in school I was a part of campus culture and a lot of the political process just so I can stay on my game and not seem ignorant. it is personal but it is also something I do see day to day and outside romantic contacts is with myself as well.it's really hard not to insert yourself in it when you read articles about how men are trash. Men are evil. Men are (insert stereotype or insult) I myself have had police called on me beca…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/21 05:58 PM
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It's not a generalization. It's not most women. Two of my best friends just got married.I have another friend who is absolutely gorgeous but is single because she already had her kids in her youth and she decided she was okay with that I apologize if it did come off as angry. It just gets hurtful when you are looked at as if you're somehow some ignorant behemoth who thinks of nothing but of rage and passion. and even though I know I'm not and even though intellectually I know most men are not, t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/21 05:50 PM
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No not the internet definition. I do believe that I am a good guy and I do mean that genuinely but I feel like if I try to write out proof it's really not going to show. I don't believe women owe me anything and I don't believe that women should be restricted to act like XY or z It's the principle of it.all my life I have been given example after example after example after example of how evil and horrible men are and the damage they can do to women. a lot of men can do damage and that is a fact…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/21 05:45 PM
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I am. You can be critical and even angry with something or a lot of people and still be a good and caring and empathetic person. you can also be caring and empathetic towards yourself and that is what I've been starting to do. Anger and frustration is relative.I've dealt with it a lot by various people and I hate the fact that I as a man and judge critically if I do have any anger or frustration with women because if it was the other way around then I would not be able to defend myself. believe …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/21 04:59 PM
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I was just going to say this. I love Steven universe because it is a male main character who is very feminine but still retains some masculinity and he wins most of his fights through changing his opponent's hearts. He's a master at empathy. Emotion per se. I went through a similar journey to where I really needed an emotional journey instead of like a physical one. I'm nowhere near perfect but I'm better off for it.
/r/ExRedPill15/01/21 12:11 AM
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I actually didn't go to church but I grew up surrounded by a bunch of women who did and that trickled down. Both sides of my family are deep southern African American Baptists and even though they did not follow any of their own rules they made sure to tell me about all the ills that would be followed me including pregnancy and getting a girl pregnant and both of our lives being ruined and of course that's never always the case but a combination of that plus the feminist upbringing kind of made …
/r/ExRedPill14/01/21 09:50 PM
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Can you elaborate?
/r/ExRedPill14/01/21 07:06 PM
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But if you're the opposite and act like some type of crazy Neanderthal who can't go one millisecond without sex then you're this terrible horrible patriarchal oppressor who hates women and locks them in their basement. I got so annoyed with this growing up because you literally can't win either way. had an abusive ex-girlfriend who made me feel like s*** because she said she wanted to wait which clearly was a s*** test.she obviously wanted to have sex but because I'm the guy I was supposed to ju…
/r/ExRedPill14/01/21 06:27 PM
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I've always been interested in the trans communities perspectives on gender especially if they lived on one side then transitioned to another Women being penalized for liking sex has been an issue but nowadays it's no longer, when I grow up I definitely was not the case even though I still have a lot of the stereotypical Church going folks in my family. male sexuality is often demonized as well so yes you are correct and that may happen sometime but I remember growing up thinking I was a monster…
/r/ExRedPill14/01/21 06:25 PM
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I've had a similar story and your story isn't a monopoly as I have had similar experiences especially with companions and friends who may or may not be doing so well. And women should kind of take that advice as not seeing men as a complete an entire category? Like really a lot of girls should really take their own advice because I'm tired of having to pay for something some guy did to this girl I'm talking to. even with my ex I still have to pay for what older guys did in her past even though I…
/r/ExRedPill14/01/21 04:40 PM
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I'm trying to internalize what you just wrote but it's hard because as a man The stereotype has been on me and boys from the age of 11 start getting that pressure. I remember being virgin shamed at age 11 in sixth grade because I had no idea what a virgin was. And I was shamed by other six graders who were also virgins but you get it we were all in sixth grade and no one wanted to admit that they were a virgin because of the aforementioned stereotypes and status as a man This pressure is everywh…
/r/ExRedPill14/01/21 03:40 PM
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You say that but every man who is authentic and transparent and open and confident doesn't have the same experience and I say that as a man who has been open and authentic and transparent and always ready to communicate but all that depends on how the woman takes it I know what you mean but it seems like it infantiles women because we are supposed to be treating them with agency and I do get it because in dating men do have an advantage of being physically bigger but that starts to become an exc…
/r/ExRedPill14/01/21 03:38 PM
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Wow that is amazing.I think that's what the red pill causes s*** test because I don't think a lot of girls consciously know that they are doing it I hate being tested and I hate playing these stupid games because I know that's exactly what they are and it cringes when they expect me to play I've had so many female friends refuse to see my point and even though I as a man and telling them that I do not actively seek out sex they just refuse to believe it because they already assume most men are l…
/r/ExRedPill14/01/21 03:18 PM
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Literally every single group in idea is just like that. I've argued with many here who exhibit the same traits MGTOW does.
/r/ExRedPill14/01/21 02:19 PM
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Karen staugh pointed that out black men aren't just walking around America black they're also walking around America black and male. When most people see a male body they immediately think of danger especially if he's big and muscular like me. But black men get a crazy combination of both being a minority black and male. I am 6'6 and 230 lb and some of my friends get it but some of my other friends I've had to ease into it or just let them find out by association of being with me. One time I had…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/21 03:13 AM
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You dislike the crazy folks and who take it too far which happens in every group and in all time periods. And you are right that is true for most meals but double that for Black and Latino men. I remember being under the age of 10 getting the police called on me.I remember being manhandled I a police officer because he thought I was someone else until he actually looked at me. I've had the police called on me for doing absolutely nothing. America has this long instilled fear of black men and wha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/21 03:44 PM
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No that is literally the same reasoning they had because they thought that big black men were just inherently out to get white women just take out the black or the ethnic part and replace man with women and it seems like that's the common consensus nowadays Of course they could just be innocent and be wary of all tall men but once again statistically that makes no sense because most women will be hurt by the men they know A brother or an uncle or even an aunt or a sister or a father or stepfathe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/21 11:07 AM
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That is so prevalent especially now with smartphones Which also leaves me to believe that we really do give away power. I was raised by women and I can't really imagine myself not acting respectful on a date so naturally I would either put my phone in my pocket or on the table. Try not to be on it and trying to be engaged on her otherwise you look like a rude asshole But my date. around me this year I went out on a date with a girl who clearly had issues and wasn't over the last guy because she …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/21 06:13 AM
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What do you mean by they ignore the women?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/21 05:37 AM
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I actually got the idea for this post after talking to a customer about half an hour ago. He was an older man but he pretty much stated the same things we talked about here It's not injured pettiness.this is actually something that I do think is the root of the problem for both men and women is this true lack of understanding just because it's a completely different world. I'm a big black dude and something I noticed especially when I started protesting with other feminists is just how much of a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/21 02:38 AM
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But there's no way for you or me to know that because social interactions have so much nuance Most people hide the discomfort and I've been guilty of it unless someone speaks it usually people who are being annoying or whatever don't know until you tell them I'd like to believe I am genuinely kind and nice and that is because I told myself I would work on those traits but that doesn't mean I'm perfect and I don't get angry or upset either
/r/ExRedPill11/01/21 07:51 PM
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Getting a girlfriend is exactly what turned me to the red pill Not every girl is an abuser but just as girls don't know, we guys don't know which girl is going to actually like us or use us.
/r/ExRedPill11/01/21 03:36 AM
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Just because they were given a bad social squid by society and their mothers I literally had an argument with my family about the values they placed in me only for me to grow up and realize not even half of them follow the same thing My abusive girlfriend Lily did let me know how much she hate it nice guys though so I really don't agree with a common definition of somehow a nice guy is just a people pleaser and is a faker A lot of these dudes were in our genuinely nice and are struggling to be n…
/r/ExRedPill11/01/21 03:35 AM
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Or they do everything right and getting abusive girlfriend then turn to the red pill You guys are on the mark sometimes but you're crazy and pity assumptions really turn people off
/r/ExRedPill11/01/21 03:33 AM
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I got a couple of friends who are super cool and they actually play magic which is what I've been looking for. Some friends I can chill with but also do nerdy stuff with But one of them was homeschooled and you can tell. He's super right-wing and he's made a few races comments but I always let it go because I chopped it up to ignorance because. .... He was literally homeschooled and he's younger than me. I see a lot of other young white men who are also frustrated and upset but there is also a b…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/21 06:19 PM
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See I wasn't physically abused but I was mentally and emotionally abused like hell. to this girl a real black man was supposed to be dominating and aggressive and call her names If I didn't fit what she wanted at that time I would be subjected to ridicuke. Getting called pussy, bitch, and weirdo. to this day she's still addicted too the attention of men and it took me years to realize that she hates men but thrives off their attention and I think that is what you see with a lot of young girls an…
/r/ExRedPill10/01/21 04:27 PM
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Most men and women don't have the awareness to even think about this and I doubt most women are complaining about the statistics especially if it's the men who are statistically getting hurt and that is systematically sexist but I hesitated to call it toxic masculinity because while I'm still a feminist a lot of their teachings and theories just do not seem to add up to real life. you are correct in the thought that if a man is homeless it must be his fault because men are just supposed to know …
/r/ExRedPill10/01/21 04:18 PM
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Dude it's crazy but I have literally been congratulated by older black men because I kept my virginity and stay out of jail. ....straight up you think those two things wouldn't be so hard but I have been congratulated by real rough and tough older black men,but to me it's not hard and I thought that should be the norm for our community but as I got older that clearly was not the case right now my emotional state isn't as good as it used to be but I am getting better but I remember walking around…
/r/ExRedPill10/01/21 01:16 PM
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Exactly it's impossible to say what masculinity is and is doubly more impossible to even know what levels of whatever personality traits you really are especially since how you perceive yourself and how other people perceive you is usually different and sometimes you can make them see you differently but you can't make everybody like you or respect you and that's actually something that helped me build my confidence I'm a comic book artist and I started putting my work out there to conventions a…
/r/ExRedPill10/01/21 01:14 PM
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It wasn't a couple of years ago back in college but that's not the first example I've had being around women whether they be acquaintances or friends. Straight up if I gave you 10 female friends of mine and I told you all the things they said about men you probably wouldn't care.but if I reverse the genders and these became 10 male friends and I reveal to you all the things they said about women you were probably think they were misogynist or creeps. my point is men and women exuding the same be…
/r/ExRedPill10/01/21 01:03 PM
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you're exactly right especially when you say they've taken it to scorched Earth tactics because I've noticed a lot of girls would rather win this gender war than actually have any positive effects on men or women It's like that old poster that used to go around saying that 50% of homeless were women. And we needed to fix this problem and sexism against women. Now think about that If you give me a statistic saying that 50% of something is women. Context clues should give you that the other half, …
/r/ExRedPill10/01/21 12:59 PM
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you don't need to be stolen to cultivated though and I have experience with being emotionally me and cultivating strength intelligence and awareness at the same time like dude they last years of high school and Olive college was me being emotionally me while doing all types of activities and things and it helped me a lot so I really don't agree with the stoicism. Too many black men either try to act too stoic or go the opposite route and what we really need is to try to find somewhere in the mid…
/r/ExRedPill10/01/21 12:55 PM
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Or crying could mean you are going through something emotional in your releasing it and I'm so tired of men and women thinking they somehow know the secret to masculinity and any guy who doesn't do that is somehow not a true man and doesn't regulate his emotions which is b******* I've had to fight grown men I grew up in the roughest parts of the hood and yet I still retained my goofy nerdy sense of humor I should be able to be as emotional as I want. Most girls believe it or not are going to act…
/r/ExRedPill10/01/21 12:54 PM
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I remember literally the girls in my community telling me how I am weird because I can speak in full sentences and actually give a speech meanwhile Tyrone down the street has just busted somebody's head in and he gets more play so please miss me with that. The narrative that somehow nerds are just unattractive because of their personalities just does not seem to be the case in my opinion.
/r/ExRedPill10/01/21 12:51 PM
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Okay for me it was the opposite as I was always pretty aware but I literally got made fun of because of my interest It wasn't normal for black kids to exist outside of the stereotypes of crime sports are entertainment and any little black boy or girl who showed an Infinity for learning or anything outside of the aforementioned stereotypes was looked at as weird at that point it did not matter how positive or crazy good my social skills were because it was too late and many people already saw me …
/r/ExRedPill10/01/21 12:50 PM
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I don't think you're weak or a snowflake but I do understand that in our culture a lot of people will probably see you as that when you become emotional or become vulnerable or anything similar.
/r/ExRedPill10/01/21 12:47 PM
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I'm done trying to practice the racism and I'm done trying to be this type of man because it's not appreciated and right now I do not want to date if a woman is going to see me as The Rock because that's not what I want and it's not gender equal I'm also tired of holding off my emotions on the chance that I am so how going to be culturally accepted because that's just not what my life is taught me
/r/ExRedPill10/01/21 12:46 PM
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Like I said I've had my private parts out in discussion and the people who were discussing it were both female friends of mine and I love them to death but I do wish they were a little bit more respectful because if it was the opposite they would have called me everything under the sun
/r/ExRedPill10/01/21 12:43 PM
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but see it's the wording that does not make sense because I do think there is what type of toxic masculinity but both men and women in society contribute to it if I as a man I'm going to get laughed at by both men and women for being me for just being an apologetically me then that is a societal problem and sometimes calling it toxic masculinity kind of takes away from actually understanding and dealing with this
/r/ExRedPill10/01/21 12:43 PM
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growing up the way I did from both sides I saw this constantly and I can't stand it and I hate it as a man I'm expected to participate Like straight up it's the definition of disrespectful and I hated it but other men think I'm supposed to indulge in it because I'm a big black dude and I'm supposed to make my lust known out there for the world to know and I cannot stand that I hate it at work and I hated it in high school and in college too I'll have some guy friends and they'll be cat calling o…
/r/ExRedPill10/01/21 02:11 AM
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Those redeeming qualities take work to manifest and it takes a lot of ignoring and thinking for yourself Example when I was at my healthiest period it was a mixture of me already being positive to other people just not myself.when I was younger I was fully a lot and I hated when people would talk about people behind others backs and I hated it even more when they wanted me to join in so I made it a point to myself that I will never be like that But I questioned this because it really did not giv…
/r/ExRedPill10/01/21 12:35 AM
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I'm starting to see a lot of redpillmen as bullies u or get a high off their own testosterone And I completely get it because all my life all I have seen is the bullies do better. These guys weren't assertive in a nice way or just confident but also gentle.it was always the guys who seem to enjoy putting anybody down including even their own friends. I have bought and have been in shouting matches with these types of guys my entire life. Was something that did separate me from them was that they…
/r/ExRedPill09/01/21 07:54 PM
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A lot of women seem to need this advice as well I've always wondered why it came to dating that the only people that could be out and open with the most insecure and most whiny attitudes were women and don't get me wrong I don't see it that way as we're all human and when it comes to manners of the heart we all get hurt and we all want to express it But growing up in this age where I was top that men and women could be anything it's becoming harder to believe that just because of statements like…
/r/ExRedPill09/01/21 06:01 PM
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Oh I get that. I'm used to rejection and I've had some successes. I just hate the double standard
/r/ExRedPill07/01/21 02:42 PM
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And that is exactly what I tell most women in my life I'm trying to not do that but I have to have at least some healthy defense because as you say my experience is my own and that's the only experience I have. Only experiences I have are unique to me. It is a major blessing that your wife will never respond like my ex did but you see how just that simple difference makes up our different experience? Did I mention that my ex-girlfriend also hated men and made sure I knew that. But me being me in…
/r/ExRedPill07/01/21 02:34 PM
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Bullshit. Sorry I rarely am at my computer as I work a lot so I'm kind of on the go while using my voice recorder on my phone and it will censor any curse words Sorry sometimes typing will go faster than my thoughts But yes like I may not look like it on the outside but I am a raging nerd. Don't get me wrong I have had girlfriends and without partying and clubbing and drinking and I still party to this day because I love it but I, also still play magic the gathering and draw anime and listen to …
/r/ExRedPill07/01/21 02:11 PM
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I hate this notion that if you question gender roles or women or have a problem with dating or anything like that you must be a man baby who doesn't have any social skills and who does not go out which is just not true I would argue the only reason why I'm so adverse to a lot of issues nowadays is because I was super social and was around a lot of women growing up so I know exactly what they b******* on
/r/ExRedPill07/01/21 01:34 PM
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You don't know that and that's just another stereotype I've been super nerdy since day one and I have had 12 jobs and been in two countries I was a retail manager but I demoted myself because nobody wants to manage a bunch of crazy man children and woman children
/r/ExRedPill07/01/21 12:49 PM
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I do not subscribe to the redpill anymore and I am also not a feminist anymore A lot of room for ideas just don't hold weight and don't get along but they seem to because of how dating Dynamics work especially since men are still expected to act and be like the 1950s model even though we've been told that demonized that we shouldn't act like that But nobody especially women really have any idea what a modern man's day-to-day life is like and telling myself that has helped me with all of this fem…
/r/ExRedPill07/01/21 12:40 AM
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Even still most men aren't out here sending dick pics so it is a scant percentage that is and that is unfortunate and I'm not defending them as they should not be doing that but when I hear this complaint from girls I always wondered where these men were at For example I'm a dude and I have had plenty of examples where I have been on a date or am talking to a girl where she has said something weird or rude but I let it go and that's partly my fault because I still even have a bias that women can…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/21 08:23 PM
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Which seems like an oxymoron because one would question if you did not expect guys who are single or in this case lonely on a dating app to pursue you then why would you be on a dating app in the first place I've always hated this complaint because rejection is already something that's going to happen in the game but when women attach it as if they hate all these guys hitting them up really doesn't sound very pleasant and I would not want to be around a girl who thought like this online dating f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/21 06:21 PM
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Grow up
/r/ExRedPill06/01/21 05:24 PM
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No that's not what's happening just because someone puts on a front or a behavior or even speaks about something does not mean that they believe it or even walk the walk for years I have had so many friends who swore up and down that they were players of some kind only to turned out that these dudes have been in a relationship since high school They weren't some super cool alpha but they definitely put on that act Same thing with the women I've known girls who I thought were absolute trash who t…
/r/ExRedPill06/01/21 05:21 PM
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I get what you mean I see other tall men all the time and being another tall man but a man who's super open his feelings it always surprising me and makes me smile seeing other men open up and I think they do that because they see me, super big dude, being comfortable with being freely and giddy and excited and animated But like you said with attractive women they're also is this double-edged sword because you know people are attaching these expectations on you To this day some people still can'…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/21 12:12 PM
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I completely get that my man and as I get older I feel like I am being immature and I know I shouldn't think like that Right now I see myself as just a useless man and I hate that but unfortunately men are valued for their utility and if I'm not making money to support myself from my art then I'm just another bum I know personally I'm not a bum and I also know individually other men and women who are also artists and struggling and Young art bums but by also know how we are looked at especially …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/21 12:07 PM
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Honestly I don't think I'm in a good place I'm a 24-year-old art school dropout and I make about $9 an hour and still live in my grandparents I was tossing and turning all night and that has been the last couple of nights for the last couple of years since my diagnosis I have no idea what to do at this moment and I thank you for that but to be honest with you I don't think I'm in a good place I have so much rage in me and I know I shouldn't but I took years of abuse and I tried to be a good man …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/21 11:29 AM
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I completely get that I'm a black kid from the hood and my mom was 18 and my dad was 21 when they had me On both sides of my family it was predominantly women My aunt ha had two daughters My mom has three sisters and her mom had three sisters My grandmother has four sisters and I didn't have masculine presences in my life but it was predominantly women especially after my mom and dad split up believe me I completely agree with most feminists say but sometimes you have to be careful because young…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/21 11:51 PM
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Of course we all know that but all of the rhetoric and the propaganda does not help If the common girl Google's advice she will probably get some good advice if a common guy goes advice he will ultimately either find crazy stuff or long articles about how entitled he is believe me I used to be a feminist and I still agree with 90% of what feminists say but what I do not agree with is the feminist themselves as they really do not care about equality
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/21 10:04 PM
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I actually see a lot of the opposite most of the men that women are trying to fight against are the scant 10% who would have never listened to a woman complain or even care about women's issues in the first place The Men who do care are the ones who are getting punished and penalized for the actions of you men and they're not even close and that's how hateful usually flows because a lot of these girls have probably been hurt by a man and now they're taking it out on every man and those men who m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/21 09:17 PM
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I'm a comic book artist and I've been thinking about writing a story similar but there's so many angles you could go with it and that's what paralyzes me Recently I saw the first season of the boys and I thought to myself that's exactly it Starlight is just a normal girl who just wants to be a hero but she ends up getting trapped in some crazy s*** to wear she is assaulted of course on the feminist side they would rejoice in rightfully so because it does show that this type of thing happens BUT …
/r/ExRedPill04/01/21 08:55 PM
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......ok
/r/ExRedPill03/01/21 07:09 PM
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I agree completely When I was in school I joined mini clubs including the social justice crowd and for the most part they were pretty normal but there were some who took it to the extreme and weren't there for anything about equality but only to beat somebody else over the head then why it rubs me the wrong way when I see the white feminist trying to explain how oppression works and privilege because a lot of white women seem to get amnesia about their role in racism and oppression especially in…
/r/ExRedPill03/01/21 02:25 PM
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The same could be said about feminist s and women just a couple of weeks ago two of my female co-workers told me to my face that men just care about sex even though here I am a man in front of them telling them that that's not all I care about but their bias runs so deep that they can't even see it Now I know if I would have turned around and said something traditionally sexist just like they did I would be the one getting chewed out because I'm the man I just came back from a horrible date and …
/r/ExRedPill03/01/21 01:56 PM
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See I can't really agree with that because someone's feelings and how someone Acts or behaves is usually on them and them alone and of course it can be perceived a certain way but that's just it If I walk outside with a tight purple tank top and a tutu I can expect some people to laugh at me but I also know personally that I am confident enough to do it. Now anyone else who perceives me on the outside may not view me as confident or assured and that is normal but you can see how there really is …
/r/askTRP03/01/21 01:54 PM
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I completely get that from the woman's perspective but it goes out the window especially since you and me and this guy know that that is not the case which is something I also find fascinating about this whole creepiness thing because I'm pretty sure a lot of women feel it but if that's not the case then it's just not the case Someone told me some great advice and it was that you're going to look creepy to any woman no matter what you do and I think that's true and that interaction with the hisp…
/r/askTRP03/01/21 12:04 AM
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It's something I've heard said before and reddit. bunch of reply kind of proves my point because how could you know if you don't know me personally I'm pretty sure from your perspective you perceive that as unconfidence but how could you know How does one measure confidence
/r/askTRP02/01/21 11:46 PM
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see that's my point it was actually quite the opposite I did not pursue any woman and just focused on myself and I was at the point where I was just happy with myself but attracting a girlfriend was a bonus and of course I hopped on that opportunity being young and 18 When I'm saying it doesn't matter is that judging by most of dating advice people say confidence is key but if that was true a guy like me who was radiating confidence and didn't even care about the girl should have had more succes…
/r/askTRP02/01/21 11:40 PM
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I kind of feel like that's exactly what my journey has been as I still have some traits when I was younger but I can see how my younger self was being overly positive and confident way too much but now that I'm older I appreciate the days where my mind is a little bit slower But yes two out of these three dates have been very fickle with me as one of them still seems like they're into me and the other one literally left to go with her friends because she forgot she had plans with them and still …
/r/askTRP02/01/21 11:35 PM
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I guess I am because the picture you're painting seems to be reasonable but even in just my short years of dating that just does not seem to be the case because I know guys who've matched the caricature of this ugly insecure twin and they still have some success but I guess that depends on what you mean by success I agree with the notion that confidence just means being brave and knowing yourself and not caring about the outcome but it's silly to think that every confident man has the same resul…
/r/askTRP02/01/21 11:30 PM
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That's something else I've been learning because the simple fact is I do not feel like I met my best I do feel okay now, but I have felt exhilarating confidence and passion before that was way better and I had no success I just went out on a date last night and I have had two dates this year even though I don't think I'm personally at my best I guess what I'm trying to say is that sometimes just telling people to be confident isn't enough and can exasperate issues I was out with a super drunk gi…
/r/askTRP02/01/21 11:26 PM
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What I'm saying is that there are thousands of guys that act just like Lil Wayne but do not have the same amount of success or at least in terms of sexual success Confidence is relative and especially women and that's something that I have learned in my own weird way Like years ago I felt like I was at my best but I only dated one girl and had no luck and here I am older living with my grandparents and not feeling so good and yet I've had three dates this year Don't get me wrong I still would ra…
/r/askTRP02/01/21 11:23 PM
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I can see that but that has not been every case from what I have seen and have observed I have literally turned off girls because they were attracted to how I looked because I'm a big black guy and they literally tell me that they thought I was a thug My confidence or personality did not change in these interactions but it was how they perceived me I've also seen shorter men and less muscular men have more finances or courage etc than me but they don't get near enough attention
/r/askTRP02/01/21 11:04 PM
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Believe me I hate it when other black men do it too When they make it okay it makes all the other stuff okay because most of the population thinks we must like it and it's flattering
/r/ExRedPill01/01/21 09:05 PM
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My bad. I work a lot but I can still use my phone so I'm using my voice on the phone Sorry about that
/r/ExRedPill01/01/21 09:02 PM
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I'm sorry if it came off as insulting and you are right p*** is a steroid of racial fetishization but what I do hate about it especially when I am on the receiving end of it is that it is somehow only men or a male issue while pertaining to this type of thing I've been twerked up on and felt on and have been groped but I'm supposed to enjoy it and take it as a compliment because I'm a 6ft 6 black dude And it's crazy when it is coming from the women because I grew up thinking that women hate it s…
/r/ExRedPill01/01/21 08:58 PM
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That is near impossible especially with subjects that this sub talks about
/r/ExRedPill01/01/21 06:36 PM
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Since the first slave ships arrived there has been this weird and perverse idea of controlling black people sexuality and combined with the idea that we are exotic or over sexual has permeated throughout the centuries don't get me wrong I completely understand your p*** ass back to is I completely agree but I think a lot of people seem to have amnesia about a lot of the darker aspects of racism and I'm not just talking about the physical and political but psychological as well I've had many fema…
/r/ExRedPill01/01/21 06:33 PM
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Girls like her are addicted to attention and that's why she posted it online and not just letting over 100 dudes user body
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/12/20 02:51 PM
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Over sexualization of black man is because of misandry and racism you are right that there has always being a fear how black men and their sexuality but that is because they are also men as women and their sexuality isn't looked at his dangerous my point is that most men aren't hurting women in most men aren't think about women and feminism goes crazy when it tries to make it seem so intercourse women are uncomfortable around strange man but that's not the men's fault and you can't be terrified …
/r/ExRedPill28/12/20 01:51 AM
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lol. Sorry, my hands go faster than my mind sometimes
/r/ExRedPill27/12/20 07:16 PM
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Working hard? pushing past challenges? Overcoming? practice?
/r/askTRP27/12/20 06:56 PM
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I agree with Planetof12 My story is similar Although I didnt get raped and I am so sorry that happened to you. Was everything on paper right, but she still wanted a thug/real man
/r/ExRedPill27/12/20 06:54 PM
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Okay so two things I started working out to impress girls. I was already superbig and everywhere I went, I suprised people by not being interested in sports. But I was 15 and a teenager so I admit I thought if I could be perfect on the "outside" I could at least attracted a girl then, hook her with my personality. Of course this never worked and I grew as a result ​ Where I currently am I, I suspect how much of all of the work on yourself is true and what is perceived usuualy becomes reality. I …
/r/ExRedPill27/12/20 06:52 PM
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I'm an artist end of first thing I think of when I think about working hard or self improvement it's always been my art
/r/askTRP26/12/20 03:41 PM
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I know I've had severe writers block for the last 3 years because of all this red pill stuff so I still drop but I can write too much anymore until I can figure myself out spiritually
/r/askTRP26/12/20 03:40 PM
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Of course I know that but I guess that's why I have it as such a big goal because working for a publishing house does have some difficulties but the rewards will be phenomenal as I will get my name out there professionally but don't get me wrong I have written tons of books in comic books on my own already
/r/askTRP26/12/20 03:40 PM
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I want to become a comic book artist whether or not I go so publishing or get paid by a publishing house doesn't matter to me as I just want my name to be out there in to know that someone has read my stuff "insta: @defo18.art
/r/askTRP26/12/20 06:51 AM
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And stop cussing me out a** ****
/r/ExRedPill23/12/20 09:17 AM
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So that is something we agree on then and I myself am not perfect of course but I try to have a distance between the politics in real life is just hard because they are intertwined with each other especially if you are not a part of the majority within your nation and especially now with everything regarding femininity masculinity it is hard to ignore on both sides but I am slowly starting to learn that it really just does not matter or at least not in the way that everybody thinks I've been doi…
/r/ExRedPill22/12/20 07:22 PM
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Of course we all online know this but honestly do most people male or female even hold this dear to their heart and behave on it ​ in my own biased perception I have met many women who do value that men also value that and actually believe it instead of thinking that we are somehow lying just to get into their pants but I have met so many women who are quick to judge a man so harshly, so many girls have told me they were turned off because they thought I was something I was not and all I wanted …
/r/ExRedPill22/12/20 05:40 PM
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Wow like that platitude is actually going to help him down the road of course he 17 he doesn't know yet but what you just did isn't going to help him either
/r/ExRedPill22/12/20 05:37 PM
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That sounds very liberating how do you do it amidst all of this political turmoil
/r/ExRedPill22/12/20 05:30 PM
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Why you know you can agree with something and see its flaws a lot of the male hate whether right or not sometimes has an effect on the boys who are more than likely already trying to understand and be respectful to women ​ I grew up with massive complex is because all the women around me how to talk pure s*** about them and they dated I don't get me wrong everybody is human and I'm pretty sure they have their own personal relationship issues like everyone else but demonizing men as a whole espec…
/r/ExRedPill22/12/20 05:27 PM
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LOL I am still a feminist I am nowhere near is hateful or a spiteful as I used to be and you guys being so hostile does not help any calls or any case
/r/ExRedPill22/12/20 05:24 PM
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That's all I did when I was in high school and the first parts of college now I'm a retail manager and I still draw
/r/askTRP22/12/20 02:36 PM
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exactly it's not about the money or even what people think Of course I care about my talent and name but I also want my art to mean something Dr suess and picasso had different art styles and you could argue one was better the other but they both are household names I don't know sometimes I think that if I chose something stereotypically masculine then i wouln't have struggled so much growing up
/r/ExRedPill22/12/20 04:47 AM
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OK this is interesting because you are a female artist OK I'm not proud to admit this but I have thought in past that a girls occupation matter but I'm trying to change that I broke up with my ex because she said art wouldn't get me anywhere ....... last year after seeing me draw a female friend of mine she wanted a drawing.......
/r/ExRedPill22/12/20 04:36 AM
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I've been doing that since I was a kid, I got a nice following on deviantart and I have 700 plus on Instagram am I real life I have sold about 20 pieces in the last 2 years and most people know me as the artists so I have that down pat and most people know me as the artists so I have that down pat I guess I'm just waiting for a girl to see it
/r/ExRedPill22/12/20 04:28 AM
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I have no problem with talking to people or even being social and I have had some experience with women but I've never done all the way with them am I get what you're saying yet at the same time it's hard for me to imagine that anybody being great at anything wouldn't have any likeable traits because being good at something does take a lot of dedication I'm basically everything else most with pilar say and this is where I get confused because for most of my life even when I was in this beta stag…
/r/askTRP22/12/20 04:27 AM
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Since the beginning all time men have lied and stretch truth to get into a womans pants So what is the difference between an artist doing good and someone who plays football or plays guitar or does any other thing and I'm not saying there doing these things just for women but if women are so still be attracted to you as a byproduct of you being your passion itself then almost every guy wouldn't be single then
/r/askTRP22/12/20 04:05 AM
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That's my point I don't date chicks to make art nor have I ever made our to get women but judging by both sides criteria of what's attractive being a visual artist is pretty damn attractive yet here I am still alone I have had tons of social skills work as well but something that has been hard is trying to stay true to yourself while being socially adept without acting fake or stupid now see what you said right there about them seeing it after they like me as a person who makes more sense becaus…
/r/askTRP22/12/20 04:04 AM
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Of course feminism doesn't have dating advice but it has too much information and rules and other things related to courtship and dating between men and women ​ all say before and I'll say it again but before I even found out about politics or the red pill I was the premier male feminists and I didn't try or even think about it just at work I had this conversation with a coworker about how I was raised by nothing but women who told me to treat women like human beings in not be a creeper and IK c…
/r/ExRedPill22/12/20 03:53 AM
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I agree which is why I am confused on to why I've been struggling so much because being a visual artist is something interesting and it's not boring and it does take a lot of time and passion most of my skills that go towards art are attractive traits but how do you translate that towards dating
/r/askTRP22/12/20 03:46 AM
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Yep that's true then why am I having such a hard time because I've been in artist all my life and I have done it authentic Lee and I'm pretty good at it 1 Bing visual artist takes a lot of time and practice and passion
/r/askTRP22/12/20 03:45 AM
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That's what I mean clearly if you have the talent to be an artist or a guitarist then that usually goes with passion and talent is not a covert contract and I have never used it as a vehicle to attract women but I have always wondered if it would be a plus or a minus considering being an artist is in aspect of me bu....ty much 60% of me if that makes sense
/r/askTRP22/12/20 03:44 AM
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I always found founded Asian women get the reverse the black men get you are looked at as some prize or something to be exotic and you're expected to take it as a compliment as well which makes it suck even more it really does get uncomfortable sometimes
/r/ExRedPill18/12/20 05:06 PM
1

Yep I see so many men form relationships ships without any healthy mindset or any authenticity and I notice not every man but there is a subset of men who seemed to be doing OK even though they don't have all of these standards I'm still searching for an acceptable way to do all of this without coming off as a creep and without losing myself respect
/r/ExRedPill18/12/20 01:50 PM
1

And I would absolutely hate if a girl used me for a validation boots as she has done it in the past W that's why I'm so iffy on it because on one end it feels like I do need it to avoid future embarrassment and more social acceptance but I hate the idea of tooling myself around to be accepted but with something like this is seems like I have no choice now at this point it does not feel like I'm hooking up for the fun of it but just hooking up for validation and I'm pretty sure that's not a turn …
/r/ExRedPill18/12/20 01:48 PM
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The problem comes when that girl does not even match her standards and the other problem comes from men even matching those standards and beyond and still ending up alone when I was at my most happy and at my most mentally fit I really did not see a difference between how girls treated me but that's just me
/r/ExRedPill18/12/20 01:45 PM
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It sounds nice and it sounds very empathetic and I'm pretty sure most men do it but putting ourselves in women shoes really does not change much for that woman or for them in and I can say that as a man who grew up pretty feminist then turned red pill in now I'm pretty much in the middle ​ throughout all of my years I was very empathetic towards women's plight but that did not help me in the slightest with my own and I'm just now starting to realize just how much you girls really do not even kno…
/r/ExRedPill18/12/20 01:44 PM
1

And this is why I really wish girls will start approaching too because I hate that all this pressure is on the guy and yes I'm pretty sure that most men would back off but that does not mean that that girl was still have a positive opinion of them in not every girl is decent a lot of girls run their mouth and lie for social validation
/r/ExRedPill18/12/20 01:40 PM
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But I feel like I shouldn't he to feel validated but clearly I do and I do not like these feelings I've been made fun of so much over this and it just fills me with nothing but hate
/r/ExRedPill18/12/20 01:39 PM
1

I completely get the part about demystifying this type of stuff but a part of me doesn't want it even when I was a kid I did fantasize about sex of course but I also fantasized about the type of dates we will go on and the type of stuff we would do and what we will learn together it sounds cheesy I know but that was my main mood especially when trying to go after the opposite sex was just do have a good time I don't judge too much but it just seems like it is something that seems to replace actu…
/r/ExRedPill18/12/20 03:38 AM
1

I have flirted before and sometimes I flirt without even knowing it but trying to turn it sexual just seems wrong at best and and worse if it fails it just comes off as weird or off putting just the other night I had another older woman come up to me and judging by her body language she was clearly into me and usually that is my type but so many thoughts were flooding my head like I did not want to come off as some h**** young guy trying to come at her if I read her interaction wrong yet at the …
/r/ExRedPill18/12/20 03:35 AM
1

Tons of heartbreak and repression and Shame a lot of embarrassment and shame is what I think about when I think about sex and I get it snow girls responsibility am I do completely understand and no one owes anybody anything
/r/ExRedPill17/12/20 08:46 PM
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Of course it's not that they would not like sex I just don't wanna come off as a creep or as some pervert ​ I'm still very much trying to learn how to lead
/r/ExRedPill17/12/20 08:37 PM
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2 it is crazy for me to think that you could engage in this type of dating without being a dick
/r/ExRedPill16/12/20 08:25 PM
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Most guys who are trying to please you however aren't doing it because they are scared you're going to leave there doing it because they love you or at least care about you and don't want you to think that they are some crazy person or a bad man and your second bit sounds good , but I as a man I have been self actualizing, improving, etec for as long as I can remember and me being on that path, really did not make a difference on how girls perceived me. And I know this isn't every girl but when …
/r/ExRedPill16/12/20 08:18 PM
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Dude I completely get that when I first started seriously dating and kept getting across this whole nice guy stuff I started compounding a lot because it's literally sounds like most stuff that goes through a lot of young men's head and also the fact that makes it so much confusing is that I know so many men with nice guys traits and I know so many men with other horrible traits also who do well with women so it does make it all that more confusing
/r/ExRedPill16/12/20 07:29 PM
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Like another poster below I also get it. But heres the problem' for one thing almost every guy has probably been the good guy or the nice guy and just because you embody whatever traits of either does not equal success in especially in terms of getting a woman no man can really know my get this moment I can view myself as a pretty good man but if I approached in women who all say different then who is right? Also it's all nice and dandy do have all of these traits but you also do have to pursue …
/r/ExRedPill16/12/20 07:27 PM
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I get all of that I guess my problem would be I don't approach that much like what I mean is it seems like some girls really want you too push and really pursue them and of course there not going to say it and some guys with different temperaments may enjoy that but if a girl keeps giving me soft now and yeses One girl made clear signals but I guess she expected me to pursue her ​ For all our talk about girls not liking being approached,nor approached the wrong, it really seems like girls have t…
/r/ExRedPill16/12/20 06:11 PM
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Can you elaborate
/r/ExRedPill16/12/20 06:00 PM
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That's not a bad thing but for every woman who isn't turned off by an emotional and compassionate man there are at least 5 more who want nothing to do with that type of man don't get me wrong I've seen your type of woman before who just seems to be open to different forms of masculinity but for the most part I still see most women being attracted to old fashion masculinity
/r/ExRedPill16/12/20 02:45 PM
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See ... I imagine that's why a lot of guys go red pill because we already did all of that and still had no success in here comes something telling you to do all of this plus giving you a concrete path to do it ​ like I'm still waiting for the day that a girl would just notice my non needing this in confidence especially after high school because that's where I started to flourish is just sounds too easy to say 2 guys old just not care and do this and you'll be Golden because its never like that …
/r/ExRedPill16/12/20 02:24 PM
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It's never that black and white most of these red pill guys are the good guys you were talking about and I do mean genuine good guys and not the nice guys the Internet likes to roast I don't think it's a matter of being good or nice I think it is a matter of being told that what you just said above and doing get authentically but then still losing and then losing out to a man who is the opposite of honesty and respect and all the other good stuff ​ as the years went on I was a little hurt that I…
/r/ExRedPill13/12/20 03:47 PM
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It is not dehumanising I never set a girl is less than XY or Z or is not human and I have grown up listening to women say how much they despise men in say no man deserves XY&Z ​ that's the difference as I have grown up literally around nothing but women who pounded me about respecting women but now that I'm older I'm really starting to wonder if girls got the same thing
/r/ExRedPill13/12/20 03:09 AM
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I wish I could give you a list of dehumanizing and disgusting things I have been told by women right now at this moment I don't want to really get involved with anyone unless I'm ready and that's what I mean by don't deserve because I really do doubt most women happy in the same energy of thought most men have when it comes to respecting them during the courtship process
/r/ExRedPill13/12/20 03:08 AM
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I don't feel too ashamed but I am also very social and I have had way too many instances of it mattering even when trying to find a girlfriend and if there has been any internalizationn I don't think that can be blamed giving what guys are growing up seeing s*** shaming is very much a thing and on the opposite end Virgin shaming is very much a thing and is not new and isn't something that you just get over I've had 2 serious girlfriends in my life and a fling did not go so well but I have been o…
/r/ExRedPill12/12/20 12:55 AM
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I guess if they see it as training or training a guy how to have sex but the way you frame it makes it seem like it's just not something a lot of women would do even though I know some women have in a lot of men have no qualms about it and I'm not looking in this place to lose my virginity but I have been offered by women who did not know I was a Virgin and my being a Virgin clearly was something to worry about because if what you say is true then no woman is interested in teaching you just said…
/r/ExRedPill12/12/20 12:40 AM
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see this whole response is the problem I wouldn't reveal it but I should not have to hide it like it's something shameful and no one should be laughing at anybody for any reason and if it was the opposite it wouldn't be accepted and also about the experience thing that's what I mean is that if a woman does come across a Virgin she could literally help him with experience instead of holding it against him I never understood that part if I had a girlfriend or potential hookup and she admitted to m…
/r/ExRedPill12/12/20 12:35 AM
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Some of these friends are my coworkers and 2 of them are my own cousins and I don't take it too personally anymore but it has been a constant throughout my life I would love to go at my on pace as well but it's not socially acceptable for big black men. Even the women that we pursue expect us to be hypersexual.
/r/ExRedPill12/12/20 12:27 AM
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Straight up one girl laughed when I told her I was a Virgin I had a potential hookup but I decided to not even go through with it because she let it slip about how she felt about virgin Men I've been rejected before and I know how to take it especially if it's for some arbitrary reason but it just always felt like rejecting for Virginia be felt hypocritical because every single person started out that way and I bet if they were in the opposite position of still being a Virgin they would want som…
/r/ExRedPill12/12/20 12:26 AM
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Every time they see an attractive girl they want me to go up in bombard her like they do and I hate it ​ from what I've been told I am pretty conventionally attractive but that's only on the outside and I need to get to know a person before I want to get intimate with him but because I am a man that's weird and not normal apparently
/r/ExRedPill12/12/20 12:19 AM
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I just got off the phone with my cousin and I'll tell him the same thing I was this guy that you were talking about for years in without even thinking about it I was that person who tried to be the person who wasn't judgmental or was mean spirited but I still kept finding myself getting bullied and getting dis respected here I am trying to be respectful of a girl and show her that I care in trying to be understanding but the same girl rejected me for being a Virgin I'm pretty sure the right woma…
/r/ExRedPill12/12/20 12:18 AM
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That comes from a lifetime of being told how trash black men are and how awful they are and getting made fun of for being corny or having interest then aren't stereotypically black ​ I'm not some race traitor nor do I bace black women but I do not like this culture that we as black people do live in and sometimes that is self created in other times it is society but I've always hated that women would complain about all these traits they wish a man had and then comes a man with all of those trait…
/r/ExRedPill11/12/20 11:16 PM
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I think that's why there such a strong implication on my a** ***** do better because that's such a prevalent thing in my culture I know so many single fathers and I know so many single mothers and be single mothers choose out walking BET stereo type in sometimes I wonder if they actually know that that man is acting 90% like a character Meanwhile black kids especially the black males are told that if they show any affiniti outside of anything that is sports crime ore entertainment, they aren't "…
/r/ExRedPill09/12/20 07:37 PM
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If there ever was a conflict of masculinity in this country then the black community really does show that in spades I grew up with a lot of harmful messages about being black and manhood, and it took me years to deprogram ​ a lot of black masculinity suggest that you have to be super domineering and overbearing into the point of being disrespectful to gain status and that is something that I have noticed since I was a kid and takes me active work to ignore as an adult and it shows judging on th…
/r/ExRedPill09/12/20 06:39 PM
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My biggest problem with this is that I get it but I could easily say that you understand men you have to have an extremely empathetic ability and I have met people with that including myself who have empathy for both genders but I really do not see men getting the same and pathetic treatment that women get through society
/r/ExRedPill08/12/20 03:55 PM
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And that's the craziest thing about it, sometimes trying to attract through those ligitan honest means for some reason or another makes you seem like a weak link or a creep and I have gotten that from men and women
/r/ExRedPill08/12/20 03:51 PM
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I got hobbies and I just got offered to job opportunities please believe what I'm saying I'm not too unadjusted but I'm definitely not feeling the zest for life that I felt I come to this damn sub because it's the only socially acceptable thing that's not in real life that I could think of because it's called ex redpill and I guess that's why the red pill is so alluring because I know it's wrong but God damn it appeals to literally every worst case scenario has happened You may have had a better…
/r/ExRedPill03/12/20 06:00 PM
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Then you're a lucky one but that does not make you better in that does not make me a pussy
/r/ExRedPill03/12/20 05:48 PM
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Fine your right I'm a pussy even though you have no idea but my personal life
/r/ExRedPill03/12/20 05:48 PM
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You don't know s*** about me
/r/ExRedPill03/12/20 05:42 PM
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So as another man would you say that you do understand how confusing it is growing up as a man in American society Your mileage may vary and that is respectable
/r/ExRedPill03/12/20 05:41 PM
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What the hell do you know about it
/r/ExRedPill03/12/20 05:30 PM
1

Why the insults
/r/ExRedPill03/12/20 05:30 PM
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Oh my God this should go without saying but I also do have a regular life Most people aren't even brave enough to even question gender norms and that's why I spent a lot of my time on here but I also do have friends in real life that I can verse about contemporary issues about I don't want you to be in me and I do hope you know I don't actively hate on anybody here and I do enjoy your perspectives but at the same time me just sitting down and acting like there isn't some stuff that is unfair or …
/r/ExRedPill02/12/20 07:27 PM
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Perspective Different amounts of perspectives Plus it's the only place that I can think of it is in between feminism and MRA that actually does talked about this type of thing I used to be in the manosphere without even knowing it when I was like 15 or 16 and as years went on I started to agree with more feminist thought because it made more sense to me and now that I'm older I am a little bit more skeptical but I don't want to walk around hating anyone or saying that this other side is right or…
/r/ExRedPill02/12/20 07:19 PM
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I'm not angry and I know that's hard to convey but I'm not angry at this moment, so you're telling me throughout your life it has been nothing but smooth sailing You don't ever question why people think this way or why you have to act this way because of something arbitrary like your race or gender I highly doubt you as an individual never go about your life thinking about something crucial to everyone's life I know you're not calling me an idiot but you are insulting me when you keep saying I a…
/r/ExRedPill02/12/20 07:17 PM
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We both know that it is not a small amount of people Gender does encompass a lot of things not just man or woman pacifically but actions and words and meanings This sub and many other sub similar to it are proof that people do care about gender and you say care as if it's something that is unhealthy to care about but yes I do care about how I am looked at in society and how my children will be and my friends and family You say to sub is unhealthy but if I had this sub when I was younger I probab…
/r/ExRedPill02/12/20 07:15 PM
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Also I come from a family full of feminist and believe me they also think in question and have conversations about gender as well
/r/ExRedPill02/12/20 07:08 PM
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And if the vast majority of people do not care about this then something like exredpill would not exist and you would not have even a commented
/r/ExRedPill02/12/20 07:07 PM
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So you don't read the news or look at Media or look at people's Instagram's or social media or anything and you don't see any push or narrative towards something whether it be good or bad because I don't know what planet you lived on but for the past 20 years plus a lot of my upbringing has been that and just that Feminist lobbying and campuses and representatives and CEOs and I'm not saying that is a bad thing but that does kind of proved to me that Society is kind of obsessed with things like …
/r/ExRedPill02/12/20 07:06 PM
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Yes most people do I was a feminist and that's a lot of the things we did talk about was in my raised and feminism and incels and gender roles and gender Conformity and what it means to be a man or woman Someone like me has to obsess over it as I've had too many real life experiences where I have been mischaracterized because someone thought I was X Y or Z because I am man and I've also been on the opposite then to where I thought I was trying to be cool or Suave because that's what girls wanted…
/r/ExRedPill02/12/20 06:53 PM
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That's why I never subscribe myself too much he's Mo or traditional masculinity because it uses mung just as feminism does Yes that king of General probably worked hard to climb to his power but he would have no qualms about throwing the men under him to the slaughter even though they all could have talents that surpassed him but because he's at the front seat, his actions will be justified by Society and especially the culture around him That's why I hate it hanging out with those dudes in scho…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/20 06:42 PM
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I guess it is a matter of people because I have never judged anybody based off of that and I haven't touched any of my male friends on it and it definitely hasn't made me less attracted to any women I have have feelings for in the past if they were virgins but I am also social Savvy and I am also realistic enough to know that not everybody is going to see it as a neutral or positive It's just a stigma most men wouldn't want because it simply is a stigma and stigmas just do not break no motor how…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/20 06:39 PM
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Do u think most people are self aware to even think about gender norms or relationships I mean really from anybody who identifies with red pill or feminist to anybody who is a man or woman or anything in between, do you think most people even think past what we would consider a norm especially when it comes to the courtship process
/r/ExRedPill02/12/20 06:35 PM
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And in the past my friend I would agree but how many people have you ever respected or forgave or even walked away from who probably deserved punishment that would never ever have a self-awareness to treat someone else with respect even at the cost of them
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/20 05:19 PM
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Bro I am that dude I'm a black African-American dude from the hood and by the grace of God I did not turn out so badly because I always question everything and I never followed the crowd but I also did get raised by a predominantly female presents and as I grew up I started seeing cracks in what they tried to tell me Like straight up I imagine if all the women who are complaining about getting catcalled and looked at I wonder if they would like to enter the body of a big black man for a day
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/20 03:12 PM
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You are a success story no doubt but there are also tons of guys like you who do put themselves out there but still end up with nothing
/r/ExRedPill02/12/20 02:38 PM
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Many of my white female friends have almost begrudgingly and made it about that part especially in American culture to wear if a white woman would say that a minority man did something it would be his word versus hers and nine times out of 10 Society took her word and you can see what cases like Emmett Till how lying to lead to someone innocence death
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/20 02:51 AM
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You're good and don't get me wrong something like this is frustrating and is confusing because there's no manual for it and all of us only want to be successful without making the other party seem uncomfortable Like straight up during middle school and parts of high school I did not ask out a single girl just because I was insecure and at the same time I also grew up getting told how horrible men are and how men cheat and how men are creepy and I didn't want to be one of those men Of course it's…
/r/ExRedPill30/11/20 01:44 PM
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When I was younger I was even excited to seek out the harder path but now that I'm older I'm just starting to realize how much there's no guarantee that you will be rewarded and especially now that I'm older I also realize you could hurt yourself and even f****** your own head if you do choose a path I wasn't in the cult but I grew up in the hood and my father who had a father in his life decided to leave me and my mom and my autistic brother and we were fed to the wolves Despite my situation I …
/r/ExRedPill30/11/20 01:40 PM
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Of course when people talk about this they're going to generalize because usually most people who are straight do try to figure out how to impress and be attractive to the opposite sex and unfortunately whatever pathway they so happen to go down is what happens and it is unfortunate With my female friends talk to me about their male problems it doesn't really bother me because for one thing I know they're not talking about me and I know that everybody goes through these things
/r/ExRedPill30/11/20 06:34 AM
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That's not what I mean I'm also at my job so not only do I run a social risk of making myself look stupid I also run a professional risk and I'm not saying it's that extreme either but that is something I do have to think about You are right she could say yes and it could be a personal win but what if she takes it the wrong way and what if it gets back to my job?
/r/ExRedPill29/11/20 11:09 PM
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I have initiated tons and there is no guarantee that you initiate anything what happened because of that was the case I wouldn't have spent so long searching Just now one of my cashiers at my job just stay to the one of the customers has a crush on me and she could tell, and I admit the girl is attractive a nice enough but there's still no guarantee and if I did try to shoot my shot it wouldn't really be worth it if I just get a rejection and that girl coming into my store now looking at me like…
/r/ExRedPill29/11/20 10:51 PM
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I would actually rather be back in that place because it was a much more positive place to be in and I didn't judge myself so harshly on certain things but as I got older I guess it kind of fizzled out as life got Harder
/r/ExRedPill29/11/20 10:45 PM
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It's crazy because I do get what you're saying but I feel like I can't agree because I've been on the other side as well when I dug myself out of a depression years ago and then I became the positive Beacon all of my friends and family turn to but as soon as that ended I find myself alone again and that's why I just hate this type of thing I'm really questioning if I do want people around whether it be friends or loved ones if they only like to come around if I'm emotionally okay As I type this …
/r/ExRedPill29/11/20 10:32 PM
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Let's see you don't know and how do you know if your friend is so motivated only because she can stop calling you and you also do not know where her mind is at
/r/ExRedPill29/11/20 10:06 PM
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Of course people have those connections and I also have them in real life too it just seems a little disheartening to think that some people who would otherwise prove very valuable to your life would not respect you the same way if you did not have to move mountains if that makes sense I tried in the past to train myself not to measure Somebody by their house or car or whatever but realistically especially in American society it just seems like that's what we value even if so consciously we know…
/r/ExRedPill29/11/20 09:18 PM
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I think I get what you're saying. Right now Society kind of views men as either a creep or a sex maniac or some asshole or he at least has to be on team women and I think that's what you mean
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/20 04:02 PM
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That's why I really don't believe there is and idea of a real man because every man's pathway is so different and I bet every man kind of feels like that Like that guy he's probably thinking he has all of his quirks of course like everybody else but he is also just a normal dude and you are doubly right about people asking questions about his manhood where there is no right answer because there isn't. Both metaphorically and quite literally It's like The Dilemma where you're playing a sport or f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/20 03:33 PM
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But think about that Let's say all of your peers judge you for not having a purple shirt. Most of your peers got their purple shirts from their parents as they did not work for these purple shirts From the day they find out you don't have one until the day where you finally caving in by 1 you will be subjected to bullying and cruelty and jokes and jeers about not having this one thing But the craziest thing is once you get this thing you'll realize that you don't really get the respect you just …
/r/ExRedPill29/11/20 02:04 PM
1

Then shut the f** and go on somewhere then
/r/ExRedPill28/11/20 12:56 PM
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Oh please back in middle school I was that type of neckbeard guy and I started running practice on everybody and not just women and I turned out fine and what you just said is the exact type of thing feminists hate as when you say that these guys shouldn't go around and practice this on women you are making women out to be vulnerable and needing protection when they have agency to Like another poster just responded what would you have these types of guys do? just stay inside? I'm not red pill an…
/r/ExRedPill28/11/20 02:53 AM
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And that's exactly why I hate it because it's a performance and it's not real and that's what really makes me a little cynical towards relationships is that you would have to act unreal to be accepted and that's something I just can't agree with
/r/ExRedPill28/11/20 02:24 AM
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That's basically what I've been doing since I was 18 was waiting because like I said I kind of don't have any mentally able parents around who were able to help me launch out of high school but I did go into college full swing but I didn't have the materials such as the money or the car and I couldn't date a college go either because once again I did not have a car, while there were other college dudes who did. People date people with high expectations all the time without doing the work themsel…
/r/ExRedPill27/11/20 08:20 PM
1

If it's true of what you said than even back then a man probably wasn't handed these things though and had to work very hard and start from nothing just like I am as I do not have any able-bodied parents who were able to pass down anything so I am technically starting at zero and there is a lot of risk and low award but I do imagine that the reward will be great Those things are not equal as even though I am without a car right now I still do clean and take care of myself even though I do not ha…
/r/ExRedPill27/11/20 08:08 PM
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Of course not and you do not owe anyone any romantic interest and I do understand that I've been on the opposite end to where I had the money and funded a relationship in the girl had absolutely nothing so I guess I have a different experience And I thought they say I'm hopeless either because even without a car I still get around with jobs the pay and sometimes I'll get a ride from a manager or pick up an Uber or even walk And no one situation stays the same either but I do get what you're sayi…
/r/ExRedPill27/11/20 07:53 PM
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I guess that's where we do different because I do respect your opinion but as a guy in a guy who came from a very poor background I don't think I am within my right to tell someone that I should not date them because they like a car or anything else because I have been in those positions before and I have been on the other side before too. But I do get that vibe from a lot of girls before they say they want a partnership it just seems like it's a double standard because I know guys who are the o…
/r/ExRedPill27/11/20 07:40 PM
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I would love to and I completely get that's why and I'll give you proof something that did help me out of my depression the first time was forcing myself to change these patterns and as I stated looking back I don't know whether it was simply this or lying to myself until I stop feeling bad One mantra that I repeated was, if I am to be made fun of for doing something normal or weird or right or wrong, I might as well do it and do what I love becuase you cant win. That was something that helped m…
/r/ExRedPill27/11/20 04:20 PM
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And you know something the optimistic part of me does believe that as I have seen that before a lot of times but I also have to be realistic because a lot of my most painful memories were being rejected because of something I did not have whether it was important to me or important to that other person, or whether it was a completely stupid standard in general but What mattered was I did not have it And of course I'm not stopping to strive for these things but these things do not come easily to …
/r/ExRedPill27/11/20 03:34 PM
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I actually do believe that rule but not the way others do It seems to me when it just comes to sex and dating women do have it that much easier but it doesn't mean that these women enjoy or even like their partners. But that still does kind of make it depressing to think that a lot of men like me are out there ready and willing but keep losing out to talk to guys but that's been the problem since forever hasn't it? Like right now I'm pretty sure if I was a girl I would have found a boyfriend by …
/r/ExRedPill27/11/20 03:29 PM
2

Oh my bad I'm sorry about that it's hard to convey tone or tell when someone sarcastic on the internet My bad about that but it does make me a little frustrated because I don't want to be redpill anymore yet at the same time this dude story and many like it are very real and entrenched in real experiences but the moment we say them we get called nice guy or stupid or beta or looser or incel
/r/ExRedPill27/11/20 03:06 PM
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I have been on both sides of this and there isn't really much you can do other than let the chips fall I actually discovered red pill when I was at my happiest and when I was a feminist just because a lot of things still were not making sense to me
/r/ExRedPill27/11/20 02:08 PM
1

I have been approaching and trying to calibrate myself tubing passable in dating since I was about 15 and I'm 24 now. I have put in a lot of effort
/r/ExRedPill27/11/20 02:07 PM
1

I call BS. Women cannot sense anything from anywhere and if they could have been they wouldn't continuously date or chase after serial killers or drug dealers or gang Bangerz.
/r/ExRedPill27/11/20 02:06 PM
1

As a left-wing black dude I completely agree because I see way too much of that behavior being exacerbated I used to protest all the time and you will find who are your real friends on both sides. That coffee shop feminist may be your friend and may hang out with you but does she ever leave her Suburban lifestyle and actually venture out into the hood? Does she actually care or does she care because it's trendy. You are right to where they act very unsympathetic
/r/ExRedPill27/11/20 02:02 PM
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And that's the problem because any time someone post something that doesn't fit with what you guys think it's right you all turned into a mob and tell him he can't say it or is not accepted because it's x white pill but what if his experience was the absolute truth for him I've gotten so many stories like that to to where a girl will say I'm husband material or that I shouldn't be a bad boy and that I'm going to be a good husband and father but throughout all of my youth the same girls go after …
/r/ExRedPill27/11/20 01:59 PM
1

The problem is a lot of these girls also see me as a means to an end and have that same view point of trying to get sexual experience
/r/ExRedPill24/11/20 01:08 AM
2

No I'm not reaching And it does matter just like how a lot of women back then we're stuck in roles they hated it's probably not too much to assume that does the same for men I am a man who has been through a lot of things like that and everyday I have to keep my temperament Everybody in their mother loves complimenting by height and build and says how much I look like a football player and his astonished when I tell them that I do art and I'm quite sensitive and there's a lot of misandry and rac…
/r/ExRedPill22/11/20 12:57 PM
2

And as a black man it's crazy to see because there is a lot of fake liberals the little act like they know what you are like or what your life is like but it's all just talk That's Suburban coffee shop housewife that spits feminist rhetoric probably rarely set foot in a black community or visit a black school or even go over a black woman's house as a friend. But it is a nice and easy social weapon to use against other people Hence the rise of the Karen
/r/ExRedPill22/11/20 12:55 PM
1

I do read up on them from time to time but I got banned
/r/ExRedPill22/11/20 12:48 PM
1

Of course not but there is centuries of social programming and passed down social and cultural norms from very different sectors of society If you've learned anything from today such as with racism is that we can fight against it all of day as black people but we have to also fight at is the heart in mind because the heart in mind is easily influenced by BS There is no law saying that black people can't walk around in public but you see what happens when you do mundane things in public. It wasn'…
/r/ExRedPill22/11/20 12:48 PM
2

Then that begs the question if these men even wanted to be in charge and given the time. A lot of pressure was on men to be that type of guy Even in the 2000s I still feel like I am not really calibrated just because for a good portion of my own childhood I will shoot horned into a lot of activities at a young age because I was a big black boy and a lot of people stereotype me as a sports guy and my entire family force me to play sports all the way up until my freshman year of high school when I…
/r/ExRedPill22/11/20 12:46 PM
1

I'm asking you say that you don't like hearing us complain and that we should just be strong and fight on our own and that kind of sounds like a lot of the stereotypical man up advice. A lot of that advice is very different, based on who's telling it. You're saying that as men we should just suck it up and take it and just be strong enough to handle it but isn't that what we are trying to fight against And do you really think that anybody does anything alone and that women needed the help of men…
/r/ExRedPill22/11/20 12:39 PM
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And I was at one point a college African-American male and so we're like 70% of my friends. Some of us do not describe to that culture and even within that culture some people even still aren't really bad people just because they listen to a certain type of music or wear a certain type of thing From the time we are brought up there is a certain culture within the African-American community, and especially with in black masculinity. There's a lot of unspoken rules that really don't make sense suc…
/r/ExRedPill22/11/20 12:34 PM
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Take your pick Women: Non-confrontational Cutesy Feminine Soft Weak (physical) Motherly Nurturing Dressed up Makeup Submissive Tend to the home Quiet Timid Loving Hearts Pink Dolls Men: Strong Aggressive Loud Abrasive Assertive Cars Violence Guns Swords Fighting Sports Video games Stoic Hard Stupid Lecherous Competitive Overbearing Dirty Etc Now don't get me wrong I don't agree with this list and most people are a mixture of all of these traits I know a bunch of super feminine men and I know a b…
/r/ExRedPill22/11/20 12:31 PM
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And as I stated before unrated I had a similar Revelation when I was younger as it did take a lot of mental power to tell myself it was okay being me but even still, you do understand that it is easier for you as a woman to do that already because people already had the sexiest notion that women should naturally be X Y and Z and men should act like x y and z Like what's any difference between what you just said in the stereotypical man up advice that men get throughout our entire lives
/r/ExRedPill22/11/20 12:06 PM
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And I don't doubt there's some girls are aware enough to understand that but there are also a lot of girls who aren't and there also are a lot of people who would fasten themselves Liberals or allies to minorities but sometimes it comes off as fake And if feminism is about breaking away gender roles then they should probably make that known to men because you should not have to reach for it But men and women both penalize men for not showing whatever stereotypically social construct of masculini…
/r/ExRedPill22/11/20 11:45 AM
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Both all of the above It's crazy when people say something like Society because Society includes all peoples of all Races and genders who all do social things all at once and these things manifest all together sometimes without us even recognizing it If I go out tomorrow wearing nothing but a pink jumpsuit I can expect that both men and women will get me s*** because of it I had a nice number of male and female bullies growing up And you're not lying about where that mindset comes from about kee…
/r/ExRedPill22/11/20 11:41 AM
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It should not be surprising or alarming and most of these guys have different levels of experience with women but still come to the same conclusion and no I do not agree with it but I also hate how people think this came out of nowhere
/r/ExRedPill22/11/20 10:21 AM
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I've seen so many of the same from women's profiles though to but that does not deter them from finding dates Like straight up you should see some of these girls Tinder profiles actively posting how they don't want this certain type of guy or one this guy with this money or this guy with this dick size but if a guy were to put in his profile now he doesn't want any fat women than he would be an a******
/r/ExRedPill22/11/20 10:12 AM
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Black men have been over sexualize and been deemed as crazy super aggressive, violent and sexual for the last four hundred years and it kills me when they act like it doesn't happen but we are all supposed to be super sympathetic towards women even though the same thing has and does happen to men
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/20 03:03 AM
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I completely get that and it does not diminish my empathy for what white men go through also because don't get me wrong there is a lot of racism but I also have had a lot of white friends and white people do probably don't even have the racial or evil bone in their body but I have always considered myself a little envious because if you take me and another very huge and nerdy white man oh, I don't even think most people would register my nerdiness first because a lot of people have made it known…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/20 03:01 AM
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I agree completely I myself deal with internalizing that I was somehow a predatory monster, I'll be I am a big black man so that quadruple that stigma for me Even when I find women interested I still won't say anything just because of how used to the rejection at best but also the shame at worse because you are right when young men do make their interest known it does not really in well You get shamed and sometimes bullied and sometimes the girl in question doesn't know how to reject gracefully.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/20 02:45 AM
1

As I get older I'm trying not to but can you blame me between two years look Middle School all the way up it has been a pretty big standard and social standard that you should get laid as fast as possible, or at the very least lose your virginity at this age or have this at that age and of course is something that is stupid to think about but people are people and we are social animals and what we do socially is sometimes stupid but we keep doing it
/r/ExRedPill20/11/20 12:07 AM
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It makes me feel insecure because I have had experiences personally in the past with romance pertaining to certain standards especially certain material ones so I get what you're saying But I can't stand when people try to make out insecurities as if they're their own issue and is if they don't come from the outer world around us I used to be insecure about smiling in pictures. That's because a girl who obviously had a crush on me you once told me that it was unattractive for guys to smile in pi…
/r/ExRedPill19/11/20 01:35 PM
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You're not giving me anything you just want to be right and you keep refusing everything because of this weird Casual Sex stuff so I have to ask what are your guys intentions are you guys trying to give good advice or are you guys just so ready to jump on anybody who you think is wrong. Is good that you have had this great life of success but not everybody has that
/r/ExRedPill19/11/20 01:28 PM
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What about all the years before because I really have not changed and I've always had a good heart so why am I struggling now
/r/ExRedPill19/11/20 01:26 PM
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Of course not there could be a myriad of reasons but that's just an example not an excuse So let me ask you this right now as a 24 year old with no car or license our house do you think I have a nice standing in the dating Department.
/r/ExRedPill19/11/20 01:24 PM
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And yes in a way by when they got the sex and I lost because I had to work so hard for this girl and I have to work so hard to not piss her off or just seem unattractive and in the end I got nothing and I know for a fact most girls don't see inexperience as attractive so even though it didn't work out with this girl I would have loved to at least gotten sexual so I can know what to do in the future but it's too late and now I'm just filled with hate
/r/ExRedPill19/11/20 01:23 PM
1

How do you know my little heartbreak isn't a social issue Judging by the feminist doctor and has the makings of it especially from everything down to being bullied to being f***** with but I'm not a girl so I never will get that empathy so I do get it
/r/ExRedPill19/11/20 01:20 PM
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That answer makes no sense and I kind of get it but it does not work that way and like I said before I am suffering now because women were not a top priority and now I'm older and I'm realizing just how unattractive inexperience is so clearly I should have been a little bit more worried about it
/r/ExRedPill19/11/20 01:12 PM
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I have to put value in it because in the past I did not and it left me open but that's another piece of advice that seems contradictory because you're telling me to not focus but not focusing that's why I'm suffering now
/r/ExRedPill18/11/20 04:14 PM
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If that was going to help me it would have helped me especially back in school because I did take the steps to be proud of who I am and sometimes I got rejected and sometimes I didn't but there was really no change from hiding it to coming our with it
/r/ExRedPill18/11/20 04:13 PM
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This comment right here kinda sums up a lot of it especially the part about being better My ex could have used a lot of self-improvement and emotional work and other things like that but she never needed it because she's a girl 5 years later I am still struggling to think that I'm even passable in dating just because there's so much a man has to do or at least give off to succeed
/r/ExRedPill18/11/20 06:10 AM
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But he did bring up a good point because if it was a woman saying the same thing you guys will be all on her side but because it's a man you tell him to drop the victim mentality I swear sometimes it is sub gets on my nerves
/r/ExRedPill17/11/20 02:55 PM
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We've had the same group of friends and she has not been shy about telling me her escapades every time I see her
/r/ExRedPill16/11/20 11:40 PM
1

I've been trying to get help in real life but just not that simple I haven't given up on it but right now I do not have a regular access to that
/r/ExRedPill16/11/20 12:45 AM
1

I'll be twenty-four in January
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 11:26 PM
1

Find your right
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 10:33 PM
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That's not adult or mature
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 10:10 PM
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You can't say somebody is a glutton for punishment if there is a certain standard that everybody adheres to but then turns around and says does not matter Clearly I should have been obsessed over it otherwise I wouldn't have been penalized for it
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 10:05 PM
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And then you talk about me and second person like I'm not here I can't read it and that's why what you say becomes illegitimate
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 09:45 PM
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Screw you a****** You don't know s*** about me and I'm getting tired of everyone acting like they know my intentions or anything about me What you all expect me to do just say yeah you're right and come back and lie to you
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 09:44 PM
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Know what I mean is I've had four cars that were mine or that were supposed to be in My Name by adulthood but one of them broke down in my mom crashed to other ones and I kind of forgot what happened to the fourth one
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 07:59 PM
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Because unfortunately yes you are right but something that has come hand-in-hand with manhood ever since I was a kid is that my accomplishments or at least other people's perceptions of my accomplishments, gets way more respect and admiration way quicker than any hard work or Compassion or intelligence or even just being a good person Yes you're right. A lot of my friends and peers from the hood are dead or in jail but some of them are doing better because they cheated the system and conformed. …
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 03:59 PM
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Because that prove that everything she ever said about me was right and how much I suck I was competing with men who have better than me and I was trying to fight my way I guess and I never viewed it as such but that's what it is What other proof did you have if you do this trash by the ones you love.
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 03:55 PM
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I have all of those things and have always had those things but that did not stop me from being embarrassed or betrayed or made fun of You say obsessing over it is bad but clearly I should have obsessed over it. Most girls straight up told me they would not mess with me because of that and I did not ask that question of what they thought about inexperienced guys but just the way they say things you will learn You need experience to get the girl and that has been glaringly obvious to me and it so…
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 03:38 PM
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I know women aren't aliens but at the same time you're right a combination of that versus was taught in school and what you see in real life and combine that with the fact that every woman is different with different preferences but no one is forgiving enough to even think about the above comment and even what you commented A lot of girls seem to think the guys are pretty alien to the only reason why they can get away with it is because of Social and gender norms Women have so many different sta…
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 03:34 PM
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I suspect that but it's hard to know I kind of grew up in the generation where sex was plastered in everything from music to TV to Media the comic books and fiction and films and plays and commercials I've been virgin trains since middle school. Didn't even know what that was until I was like 12 That's all everybody talked about oh, and being a man you get stereotyped as being some stud if you look a certain way or act a certain way and what not Hell smoking weed is way more enjoyable when mastu…
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 03:19 PM
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Like honestly do you think anybody in your life really respect all the hard work you do Most hard work whether it be physical or mental goes completely unseen to most people and I highly doubt people actually care about it especially if they treat you the same way afterward and I would hate for that to be the case if they were to somehow like me more after I've move mountains
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 02:36 PM
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What I need is everybody to stop trying to bust my chops and give me an answer that actually makes sense instead of just work hard because I've done that and it's led me back to failure. I get it and it's hard to convey tone on the internet as I'm not angry per se but I am angry when I keep getting work hard when I have work hard What's left after faith in passion and dedication When your failures exceed all hope what is after that
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 02:35 PM
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I should have my license in a degree by now but I couldn't , I should have 4 cars by now but for outside reasons they were wrecked I didn't put in any less passion or hard work than anybody else but I still failed. Failed at losing virginity and failed at school and failed at getting respect All I do is try and fail and come back home to people telling me to try again
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 02:29 PM
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I wish I had that luxury but I've been trying on and off since I was a kid to be better and I've been doing it alone and I'm tired and I'm tired of some Grand narrative at the end of something being better just because I put in all of this hard work Right now I'm not in the best position to make any moves and it's crippling
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 02:28 PM
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I bet those things did not come easy and I bet you had to feel a lot to get those things over and over and over again but did you ever consider yourself lucky and maybe that there's another woman who probably matches you in every single way but just failed because of whatever reason I'm tired of running on faith and I'm tired of running on false motivation especially if it doesn't get me anything at the end
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 02:23 PM
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What makes your truth really the truth though You think I haven't tried something like this before and ended up failing Because some people just like to be right instead of actually helping and that's why I see it as a f****** attack But you're right I guess I shouldn't be fixating but it's hard because I know for a fact if I do feel better and try to date again I'm going to get more girls like that but these girls have plausible deniability to be an act whatever way they choose because they are…
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 02:18 PM
2

Damn 46 no wonder Can I ask how your life turned out if you don't mind me asking and I ask that non-judgmentally
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 02:11 PM
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Do you or are you just trying to shame me
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 02:10 PM
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Honestly it's because there's so much stigma against guy to have no experience especially sexually and the same girl who denied me that made fun of me for being a virgin even though we were both virgins and I can't get over that especially if I am supposed to somehow just respect women. For all the talk about respect I have rarely gotten it back
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 02:09 PM
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Okay so it has to be a super good job then in your book And you have to Club all the time in your book So you must work out religiously 24/7 and never indulge or go out with friends in your book See what I mean even when I gave you examples you were so ready to just point out a negative and then project your BS on me
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 02:07 PM
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You'd be surprised just how many people seem to care about stupid stuff in your life and don't get me wrong I do agree with you to a point but we all met a couple of assholes in our life
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 02:06 PM
1

What makes me such an annoying cunt and what makes me not able to say the same thing about you since you seem to think I am. I swear that's the biggest problem with people nowadays is that they want to be open and Progressive but acting like a bully and definitely insulting people isn't
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 02:05 PM
2

I've had 13 jobs I used to lead clubs back in school, I'm a pretty damn good visual artist, I have tons of hobbies, no I'm not currently in the club right now as most of my time goes to my manager job in retail which is good right now but I want to change it in the future I used to work out all the time but not anymore, and I'll admit that's something I do want to incorporate in my schedule now but it's easier joining clubs and working out when your only obligation is School but now I'm out in t…
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 02:02 PM
2

No but every single group of men and women throughout every culture and race on this planet has very different experiences and Life Journey's
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 02:01 PM
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Are you saying that because you care or are you saying that because we disagree on some ideas because I've noticed that pattern in this sub how you guys go straight into the attack but then act like you're helping
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 01:59 PM
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I guess they win because I was trying so hard to show this girl that I cared and genuinely inauthentically cared. Not only did I get nothing but she gave it away to other dudes who do not care so easily
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 01:58 PM
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There's nothing inherently wrong with it I guess but there are ways to do with that are more honest instead of gaslighting other people and in a way yourself For example I never fantasized about sleeping with multiple women, but now that I have been exposed to the culture and see how it goes I feel like I have to now to be taken seriously in the future Believe me my dad asked like a stereotypical gang member would until he's thrown off by something and it was kind of curious seen his reaction be…
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 01:57 PM
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Okay so I dated the girl and have known her after work and I know her damn behaviors When we both meant we had opposite personalities and expectations and believe me when I say this girl was the one who cared endlessly about what people thought Not one man's attention was good enough and if any girl looked at her sideways she would be ready to fight
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 01:56 PM
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I hate the red pill for the same reasons And it's not about the partner count it's the behaviour and justifications and actions all around it there are not respectable You can't go around screaming about how awful men are and how men are cheaters but then become a cheater and mess around with dudes who have girlfriends And no my parents did not mess around that much Even my own dad was disgusted that I went on a date with an older woman and my dad is a gang member
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 01:54 PM
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Wrong man do not have minor powers Most men are the products of all violence even at night Most men are the victims of most violence in general and just because a man can lift heavy things does not mean he wants to or needs to and you are very mistaken if you think men have less social construction
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 01:48 PM
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Please This is the same girl who complained about all her hookups treating her like crap and cheating on her and locking her out of their Apartments as they let their baby mamas in Clearly she isn't happy if she complains about it too but then again I do try to be respectful but once again you cannot act one way then do an opposite behavior and expect everybody to kiss your ass
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 01:46 PM
1

Some people and some people do understand it's just it's hard for me to wrap my head around
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 01:45 PM
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Because unfortunately other women are attracted to men who have been with other women I don't hate her because she has multiple partners I hate her because she acts one way and does something another way and expect to be treated with respect I was taught definitely growing up. Hell even my parents generation who were going to college around the time of the 90s, yeah they probably dated around but probably didn't sling their bodies so easily It's not so much about my own self-image but people are…
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 01:44 PM
0

But all of the feminist say that it's empowering and good I'm being sarcastic and you wouldn't be so alarming to me if it was like one two or three guys but it's only been about 5 years since we graduated high school in to think that she has that many men already Even when I was younger I never fantasize about sleeping with tons of girls but only one I loved and now I feel so childish
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 01:29 PM
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But think about the implications of that This was the same girl who hated cheaters and who was so upset that her dad cheated on her mom and have such a horrible opinion of men because of it but she can do that same behavior much more easier than any of these men Growing up I was taught to respect women's bodies and don't be a pervert and be patient and love her for her mind but all of that is thrown out the window now and I feel like an idiot because all the dudes that was messing with her proba…
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 01:28 PM
1

At least you were able to get laid and gain some experience My ex and I were both virgins when we met and after she cheated on me she was able to find him sex partners while I have been struggling and failing to find love
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 01:02 PM
1

And I can recognize other types of suffering and what not in other people but I still am allowed to disagree and point out things that don't make sense And I do not think I have a monopoly on anything and that's what enrages me is when you guys say stuff like that because that's what you're projecting And once again I have a thousand of experiences that I could type out to prove that but it's not going to work
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 12:55 AM
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And that's great and I respect that and I'm not knocking all of your experiences but we are still two very different people I may not be as old as you but I have been through some stuff that has been difficult as well and I shouldn't have to type out a list to somehow match you and I'm pretty sure that's not what you're doing And yes there are outside factors that do affect you has I'm pretty sure you know but I guess that's something we can disagree on I've been betrayed by every adult in my li…
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 12:53 AM
1

And don't get me wrong I get you're trying to help and I'm not coming on you for that I'm coming on you because outside of this website you have no idea who I am or what steps I take in real life I already called it
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 12:41 AM
1

See that right there I am not expecting anybody from the outside to notice me I hope you do realize most people are not self-aware to even talk about this type of thing as the ex red pill subreddit is literally the only socially acceptable plate other than other forms that even talked about this type of thing Like I said I feel way better than I did way back in 2018 but a lot of things are very confusing I don't mean to be weird or mean and I don't think you guys are either but if you've been pa…
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 12:35 AM
1

Like what could you possibly know about masculinity that you think it's so easy being a man him navigating all the nuances of what that means
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 12:32 AM
1

That's the problem with you feminist types is that you guys think you're so right about everything and then bombard people with an information dump as if that is going to convince somebody
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 12:30 AM
2

Why do you care so much to keep replying if you don't want to see me post on here
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 12:30 AM
1

I've been taking steps outside of red of course and it's hard to translate here in type Don't get me wrong I do feel better than I did two years ago but there are still some things that are very confusing and very existential For example I know that a lot of my problems are from inside the house but they also are from on the outside as I do have proof of that and I'm trying to balance those two things
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 12:29 AM
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Situational aggression is something that women do more than men do both genders and a lot of women are very much entitled to use men for their own gain especially if men are sacrificing towards these women
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/20 02:01 PM
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Exactly In 7th grade I had a cool technology teacher, home I passed with an A and I'll never forget how he stood up for me I got up out of my seat in class to go grab a pencil or whatever and the two girls are late and they see my desk and my backpack next to the computer and they just march on over there and shove my stuff on the floor and sit in my seat He saw the whole thing and immediately told them to move and I love them forward to this day They know they can get away with it because it's …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/20 05:51 AM
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He absolutely nailed and the fact that so many salty women came out of the woodwork was proof of what he said was right Well the master was whipping the slaves out in the field oh, the Master's wife was ordering around all the made women 4 years in this country black Hispanic and Asian and native women have been spat upon and it's really odd that these women think their oppression is somehow on the level of all these women and other groups of people who have been abused through history simply be…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/20 05:45 AM
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Don't get me wrong I have tons of friends of all Races and I do love my wife female friends but sometimes I don't think they realize how privileged they are especially considering the history I cringe when white women hit on me because a lot of the things I mentioned. My anxiety is already through the roof and sometimes I do not want to be on the same aisle as a white woman even in the store I work and I know that's a messed up thought but it's because if she thinks I do anything out of context …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/20 05:41 AM
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I disagree. If you mean stereotypically how people react to men or women despite their race then I guess you could say in a way such as how some people would speak to her husband first before a wife Black men are looked at as more threatening than black women and black women are doing better in education but black women are also suffering in other areas while black men are doing better in other areas but a lot of these areas also over sect with each other as well I cannot relate to being a woman…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/20 05:37 AM
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False. I was a male feminist raised by nothing but mostly women and I never had any qualms about stuff made by women or women leading or anything like that so I do get where they are coming from but like I stated in my post it becomes fake when you only see the world through the lens of female victimhood. All types of people from Canada to Chile, from Russia all the way down to South Africa go through different things for many different reasons And you can make comparisons and some comparisons a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/20 01:18 AM
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I completely get that and don't get me wrong I'm pretty sure most of their hearts are in the right place but it starts to get disingenuous and their cognitive dissonance start showing I'll give you an example I've been walking long distances since I was a kid because like you I was raised in poverty but something I have noticed as I aged up from a teenager to 23 is that I see more men having that type of hardship of not being able to find a ride as I assume a lot of people wouldn't let a lady ju…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/20 12:46 AM
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My younger self would agree with you as that was my ultimate goal to but I literally had dating prospects shoot me down because I wasn't overly sexual. I'm still all about that but I think a lot of people socially expect a guy to just think about sex and Non-Stop and it is offensive sometimes
/r/ExRedPill13/11/20 01:20 AM
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You do not even answer my question I just said I never thought I was a special snowflake or whatever that means it just seems a little weird and disgusting to think that you could just swing your genitals around like that especially given there are other consequences Like what if you're on some crazy hook up machine all week and end up getting a girl pregnant while you're trying to rack up numbers like an idiot because I am friends with a lot of dudes who have done that and now they're stuck wit…
/r/ExRedPill12/11/20 07:22 PM
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I get that and I guess I'm trying to get to that point between avoiding or dealing with it Like I cringe when other men come up to me bragging about sleeping with married women because they think I'm cool with it or I'm into the machismo culture Same thing with women or my female friends as all of them either male or female come up to me with some kind of story like that and I'm just thinking in my head do you ever think about the other person when you're doing that After I rightfully broke up w…
/r/ExRedPill12/11/20 03:20 PM
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Also just because you had a messed-up experience doesn't mean you have to go feminist or Christian or anything but that's usually what starts it and it's never Just One Missed up things but many of them I had an ex-girlfriend who thought it was a perfectly acceptable to complain and whine all the time about all her ex-boyfriends and all the evil's that men do and i just sat there and took it.
/r/ExRedPill12/11/20 01:57 PM
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Just because you have somebody throwing themselves at you doesn't mean it's good and also doesn't mean you're compatible The reason girls throw themselves at me just because I'm a six-foot-six conventionally attractive black man and are attracted to whatever standards or stereotypes they already have in their heads and I know this because these girls have no qualms about admitting this to me Yes it would be nice to have regular sex I guess but I never wanted like casual sex nor I want to be bang…
/r/ExRedPill12/11/20 01:56 PM
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Oh I'm 23 I had a girlfriend Actually I've had about three girlfriends but only really count to and I've been on dates and I've had of the way and so I'm Not Innocent or inexperienced per se but I would still prefer to have full-blown sex with someone I completely trust
/r/ExRedPill12/11/20 01:54 PM
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But you do realize ever since I was a kid I've been in the household of mostly women and they had a pretty much similar opinion of men because all men were horrible or evil or deadbeats and they all said it all the time Are all the women in my family inside of a cult because they subscribe to that type of thing
/r/ExRedPill12/11/20 01:53 PM
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I get what you're saying but not all of them are blind and I don't want to be steeped in the red pill anymore because it doesn't make me feel better I don't like the idea of spinning plates or dreading or even casual sex but if all of these experiences is going to make it easier for me to find the one in the future then I guess I have no choice and even as I type this I feel awkward and a little disgusted
/r/ExRedPill12/11/20 02:51 AM
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You set up that question as if I somehow expected myself to be impervious to pain but after you go through something one does have to look at oneself in decide what is next and I am still at that point I've already done a lot of things I don't agree with thinking I was being stronger and it's left me nothing but regret, if that answers your question
/r/ExRedPill12/11/20 02:06 AM
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What I mean is a lot of girls are very comfortable being openly negative and I'm pretty sure most guys don't care but when you detach yourself from dating it does kind of seem like they are being unnecessary negative especially considering. That's the advice I have gotten is to not show any negativity at all I was on a date and the girl immediately starts talking about how horrible her last ex was and that's been a common theme for me I have one serious girlfriend in 18 and 2 flings that were no…
/r/ExRedPill10/11/20 01:05 AM
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Is that a problem though because I've been on a few dates and I have dated before and a lot of girls are very open with their emotional stuff and their negativity but it seems like for guys we can't have any ounce of negativity unless a girl since it and I guess that means that they don't find it attractive but even still it seems a little bit unfair because most of my experience dealing with women has been that also dealing with the emotional stuff and that's not a bad thing but it's like you'r…
/r/ExRedPill10/11/20 12:43 AM
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You are right but even with us knowing that does that make it any easier Like I'm pretty sure this one girl who came into my line a couple of months back was into me but the factors that stopped me were my own fear of rejection and asking her out in public at my job She had a Sailor Moon lanyard and I mentioned to her that I'm a comic book artist and I love anime and that did show a positive response in her but then again if I would have asked her out and got it wrong then I would look like an i…
/r/ExRedPill10/11/20 12:14 AM
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Because when it comes to standards and I mean standards flight dating standards that get you only in the door it seems like such an important one but it's not an easy one by a long shot especially nowadays Especially considering most girls standards because if you take a boy and a girl who came from the same neighborhood had a similar upbringing they are going to have different experiences when it comes to dating because I tore for me to imagine that that girl is going to want a guy on her level…
/r/ExRedPill10/11/20 12:13 AM
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I think I'm interesting and I have my own opinions though my mental health isn't been doing too good for the last couple of years but even before all of that I was still interesting and had opinions and hobbies and a life It is logical or stressful when you keep putting arbitrary points on it and keep offering advice that doesn't match up and I'm not saying you personally Like if a girl stays that she likes guys who are exciting, 20 different dudes are going to come up to her because these 20 di…
/r/ExRedPill10/11/20 12:09 AM
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Okay so before I dropped out of college that was basically my life was getting education in trying to be financially independent and I failed and I accept it and I'm not saying I want to stay like that but that takes years of work and commitment to other institutions and it's not something that you could just do on your own after a set amount of time I have certain skills but now the question begs how many and what type of skills do I need? Financial Independence means different things for every…
/r/ExRedPill10/11/20 12:06 AM
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That's what I'm saying I've already been past and not worrying about it part and trying to get life experience and stuff and I'm pretty sure she isn't even finished with her degree yet but notice how that's your go to a device Don't get me wrong I'm not criticizing you or mad at you it's just crazy to think that people keep giving out some kind of advice like this and I have done it in some way form or fashion in the past 5 years plus but I still find myself just not good enough I'm not obsessed…
/r/ExRedPill10/11/20 12:02 AM
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Well I know for in my case it does kind of feel like I'm locked out of dating or feels like I have been not really giving you a fair shot and I guess that is the nature of dating as it is unfair it just feels like I have a lot to give or that I am a good catch but the only way I can really find that out is if I date again but that's been very hard to
/r/ExRedPill10/11/20 12:00 AM
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I don't think it works like that though I do get what you're trying to say
/r/ExRedPill09/11/20 11:53 PM
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I don't even know as I know where near financially independent and even when I was at my most confident I still kept getting rejected like no tomorrow so I wish I could tell you something but I just don't know anymore
/r/ExRedPill09/11/20 11:42 PM
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You are right but it is 80% from the outside world and what I have seen / heard / learn / have done myself I keep bringing this up because of its context but I was a male feminist and I was never shy nor was I ashamed to be openly emotional whether it was Joy or sadness but over the years I have learned that most girls do not want that Don't get me wrong I'm not some crazy fool who's overly emotional but I am a typical when it comes to masculinity and I'm pretty sure that throws a lot of girls o…
/r/ExRedPill09/11/20 12:55 PM
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This advice sound so damn just.... shallow and kind of sounds like some of the men that my ex would go for and I just can't see myself doing that Don't get me wrong I've been on a date with older woman before and it was nice but I don't want to pray on any body who was lonely nor do I want to pics someone who was easy. Like I have turned down a threesome and I have had a b******* and I have been on dates and I have kissed girls but all I wanted was just a normal relationship and I wanted to star…
/r/ExRedPill09/11/20 03:08 AM
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But everybody naturally wants to try their hand at love and dating and especially dose of us who have less sexual experience because that is something important and every year without that it becomes that much harder Right now I know for a fact that my experience is also something that holds me back to the point where even when I get signals from women I don't indulge it, And I know what you're going to say and it is true that not everyone thinks the same nor is everyone going to find an experie…
/r/ExRedPill09/11/20 02:52 AM
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The irony is I am happy alone but everybody wants someone even when they are content and alone And having a woman being one hundred percent in different just sounds like coping and that's not what I want And if what you say is true then I'm just not thinking it's going to be worth it because at this moment as an artist I don't think I'm going to finally have a fulfilling career in it until I'm at least in my thirties or forties and I'm tired of telling myself it's going to be better when I'm old…
/r/ExRedPill09/11/20 02:27 AM
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And don't get me wrong I do get it because you can just stay in one place forever but it's like after trying it and failing it so many times you do start to wonder if maybe you were not raised right or maybe there is something wrong with you for you to fail so much compared to your peers. Like I said most of my peers are Hood black men and don't get me wrong most of us are all right but there are a nice size portion of us who follow the thug life and the thug life is what is cool in mainstream a…
/r/ExRedPill08/11/20 07:08 PM
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I get what you mean but even within those good points is still kind of seems like they're selling snake oil When I was younger before I even thought about seriously dating or even self-improvement I decided to start working out for myself. I was bully constantly and because of my looks in my rice I was stereotyped into either being a drug dealer or being a ballplayer and I wanted to do neither and you can imagine that's a good thing but a lot of people will give you s*** for it I knew the only w…
/r/ExRedPill08/11/20 06:59 PM
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Care to elaborate
/r/ExRedPill08/11/20 06:53 PM
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And I'm telling you I was that person you just described your but it just doesn't work that way I think that's why the red pill attracts not just because of the dating stuff, but and you give a narrative like that and even more so if you're someone like me who was that guy who was constantly self-improving and telling other people how magical self-improvement was, and then at the end of all of it and still find himself back in depression and with nothing then I think I kind of have a right to be…
/r/ExRedPill08/11/20 06:24 PM
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I kind of alienated a lot of people in my personal life I put in a lot of work into myself as I was surrounded by family but I still found it hard to get the things I needed especially when I was in high school I'm a big 6ft 6 black guy who never had any problem showing my emotions on the outside but of course that comes at a penalty. I am big enough and strong enough to be a football player but I chose art, I'm more feminine and most of my hobbies are towards artistic things and looking back I …
/r/ExRedPill08/11/20 05:07 PM
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It does ee make it confusing for me also because I know most people my age are into similar boat but at the same time it's a penalty for you in the dating World which kind of makes sense but at the same time doesn't because that's like saying someone has to be able to jog 5000 miles while you yourself are perfectly fine not to Don't get me wrong I know I need to get these things but I hate the fact that I am locked out of dating over something like a car in the house because I know the moment I …
/r/ExRedPill08/11/20 02:53 AM
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what do you mean
/r/ExRedPill08/11/20 02:41 AM
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What labels or even measures having that together though. Most of my peers are either struggling living on their own or living with some family member or parent Let's say I do theoretically get the house in didn't car that's not the end of it, and there will always be some other stereotypical point that I have to reach First time around I couldn't get a ride to the place but the other two times I did fail and I kind of falling off of it. Theoretically I could study all we can try again but if I …
/r/ExRedPill08/11/20 02:22 AM
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If it has the same culture traits than how is fds any less problematic than the red pill Looking back my ex-girlfriend pretty much fit in in the fds krowd but she was also very misandrists and she does sleep around with the worst men possible and after all of that that did kind of put me in the red pill spot but I'm doing better Like you can't s*** on men then do the behaviors that you hate within men and then date the men you say you can't stand I got that from way too many girls and it's crazy…
/r/ExRedPill31/10/20 01:53 AM
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I do feel bad for the girls in fds because like in cells and the red pilled people they probably have nothing but their entire lifetime all the bullying and being rejected and being made fun of and just general suffering and social rejection and all of that combined can make a crazy person and I probably would have been just like them if I wasn't interested in people but I have to work hard and force myself into interactions where I knew people would fuk with me and it took a lot of forgiveness …
/r/ExRedPill31/10/20 01:51 AM
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Oh I absolutely agree because I'm now finding that some girls I was attracted to we're really not my type or we would not have gelled well At fifteen I had a crush on a girl because she seem to have a crush on me but looking back I looking at her traits I should have avoided her Right now I'm kind of in that weird Middle Ground between not finding the person I want and going on dates that we're not too good for me and I do feel like I'm making progress but there is no guarantee
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/20 03:09 PM
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And that is agreeable but I wish we would at least state that first before we give our paragraphs of advice or what to do because I am literally a walking example of taking all of this advice and put it in loads of hard work and My diminished returns I got was maybe a few compliments from people who used to bully me but it really did not change how the girls in my peer groups off me and it didn't really give me this undying respect people were supposed to give me And I never really expected it t…
/r/ExRedPill30/10/20 02:07 PM
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Okay but after all of that resilience what then because I'm pretty much that person has I thought I would have my degree on a car in a house by now and even after putting in work I still don't have these things so you can count that as a failure but I still am pretty much confident yet I doubt that that looks good on a dating resume no matter how confident I am personally Like seriously my dad abandoned me and I grew up in a single black mother home and I was relentlessly bullied a lot. I've bee…
/r/ExRedPill30/10/20 01:58 PM
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I'm an artist myself and I love art I went into the Louvre and I saw the Mona Lisa so it is rumored that it's just a fabrication and the real ones locked up somewhere But while it is amazing that you guys have this nice little friendly rivalry with a French as I always imagined both countries we're Rivals as you guys do have a lot of famous figures and famous pieces of Art and Italian and French just sound so damn romantic
/r/ExRedPill30/10/20 01:24 PM
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And judging by the reply a man has to be a complete emotional Rock right. Because all of those things you just said he probably had a good reason for acting a little off at an off-kilter joke or maybe he retaliated for a good reason especially if somebody says something off about him or completely mischaracterizes him. Some things in high school I had to Hideaway and compensate because there was no socially acceptable avenues for me just to be myself without getting ridiculed already
/r/ExRedPill30/10/20 01:15 PM
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I would agree. I guess what I'm trying to say is how do you measure someone's confidence because it's very hard for me to believe that anybody can completely encapsulate anybody else's personality traits especially something subjective like confidence You can be confident three days out of the week but the other four days you may just want to stay inside? What if said guy feels like absolute s*** when you first meet them but then later on you find that he surrounded himself with friends and is h…
/r/ExRedPill30/10/20 01:14 PM
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Sounds kind ofbitchy but I do understand that a lot of girls do have unwanted attention But even within all of that that still does not mean that guy lacks any confidence as I'm pretty sure I have said something weird or off handed because I thought it would be socially acceptable or cool Plus no one is that good at picking up on someone's entire character I'm sorry I just can't agree with that I have been at the mercy of people in the past because they completely mischaracterized my character a…
/r/ExRedPill30/10/20 01:11 PM
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Your last paragraph should be the head advice because even within all of that that was not the reality of my abusive relationship and I know that's hard to tell because we're on Reddit and we don't know each other's Personalities in person but even still You never really get to fully know a person even at the first or second encounter and what happened at my job tonight is a nice example I'm a retail manager and one of my new cashier's is a very tiny Hispanic girl and she's 18 Like she can't be …
/r/ExRedPill30/10/20 02:51 AM
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I completely agree with that as I have been confident pretty much most of my life even with my raging insecurities and complexes and you're exactly right that anyone from a crack addict to a businessman to a bodybuilder to a programmer to a singer to even just the guy down the street has confidence in some way or fashion that's why I always hated the advice of just be confident because most people are neutrally confident and even if someone can't tell someone is confident you still do not know w…
/r/ExRedPill30/10/20 02:23 AM
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I already do love myself and I am myself And you are very correct that confidence isn't everything. The same girls who rejected me we're terrified of public speaking or a job interview which I have no problem doing Neediness is very subjective and the fact that I have had girls who wished I was a little bit more thirsty for them kind of disproves that point about being thirsty a turn off. One girl's creep is another girl's turned on and vice versa and I say that because I've been on both sides o…
/r/ExRedPill30/10/20 02:17 AM
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That would make sense but I've seen way too many women fall for these confident types who really weren't confident but just fit a certain image and they fit that image very thoroughly And I also know some guys who are not as confident but are filled with culture in substance and if your whole spiel about having substance is true then those guys wouldn't have a problem finding dates I know I'm not sterile typically masculine even though I can pull it off but I just hate doing so because I know in…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/20 01:59 AM
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I call BS not because I don't think you're giving good advice but because I was like Opie a couple of years ago and years later I still have the same mental problems only because after self improvement and doing everything on my part nothing really changed
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/20 01:44 AM
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Oh I'm an art major and I still draw and paint I just need more skills in my degree what I mean is it's easier to tell if you really have changed or at least give off the perception of change when you're around your own peers especially in to school environment What I mean is are you at the level where you are considered dateable or at least normal and even after all of my work I am still questioning if I am there because I'll be 24 in a couple of months and though I feel more mature and spiritu…
/r/ExRedPill29/10/20 12:44 AM
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I wish I was still in school because at least in that environment you can tell that your work is actually working I pretty much gave up and dropped out of school after a mental breakdown and I haven't felt the same since and that was in 2018. Sometimes I wish I was someone else because I feel like all the work I put in wasn't worth it otherwise I would be in a better position than where I am at
/r/ExRedPill28/10/20 11:40 PM
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Also I can't not stand this notion that it's somehow it's her not for men to complain but women literally do it at all times and no one penalizes them for it It makes no damn sense because no one's life is 100% perfect and bad days do happen and I have so many memories of the women in my family or friends just completely being down there and bitching and whining but no one penalizes them for it
/r/ExRedPill28/10/20 10:05 PM
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Believe me I hate the red pill because even their good advice is super exaggerated. I used to be one of those Gym Rats. I was never into sports but I had the body of a linebacker and a lot of people in my life have always suggested I played sports but I just chose to work out and do exercises I enjoyed and it helped me and then I became one of those people who kept telling other people just go lift bro and have fun it'll all happen. That was years ago and looking back yes it was good to explore …
/r/ExRedPill28/10/20 05:07 PM
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Yes I have expressed interest and try to escalate and flirt and sometimes I have success and sometimes I don't and like you even said there's no guarantee that it will work.
/r/ExRedPill28/10/20 03:45 PM
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I'm not actually and that's the problem and I know this hard to convey on Reddit but I was that guy who just hung out with women and was chill and cool and it was fun but as you say there is no guarantee and I did not end up attracting It's probably been maybe two years since I actively started hitting on more women and even then I didn't even hit on every girl I like It's not so much as the focus on getting into a relationship but I am kind of frustrated because so many different types of advic…
/r/ExRedPill28/10/20 02:31 PM
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Your advice is what I did in three years of college and I am still single and I'm not saying it's not good advice but I did it and it didn't work for me and now I ask what do you think I should do next after maxing out the whole approach and get rejected and repeat
/r/ExRedPill28/10/20 01:02 AM
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But even steel I know some guys who are serious and still get dates the way portrayed in the comic and that's the problem with criticism of the Redfield because even if some of it seems off handed or b******* almost every guy I know has some story about what you just said how there's some super creepy guy who was overconfident and by definition he shouldn't get any girls but he still does And it's not just a dating though it's the reaction the women gives like in the comic conveyed I've seen men…
/r/ExRedPill28/10/20 12:46 AM
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And someone on the opposing side could easily think these things about you and I'm not saying that you are but that is also something I have learned especially when it comes to different issues is that for all of my frustration that person could probably see me like that for some crazy reason that I could never ever help
/r/ExRedPill27/10/20 10:52 PM
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I'm sorry but if you do ever come over to the United States you will understand what I am talking about when I say culture because there are many different cultures here some more socially acceptable than others but something that does seem to be very American is that we are all raised very independent and social and confident but sometimes that breeds a population that is very arrogant standoffish and obsessed with competition
/r/ExRedPill27/10/20 01:36 AM
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Wow. Do Italians and French people really hate each other Is that because of world War II some other historical event
/r/ExRedPill27/10/20 01:34 AM
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Cool black Italian huh I love the romantic countries but I've only been to France Believe me I understand that not every guy is perfect and I know that not every girl is like that but the fact that said culture exist is what I'm talking about and I'm pretty sure that's why you're a feminist as you recognize that not every guy is an a** but there is a culture there and that's the problem
/r/ExRedPill26/10/20 10:04 PM
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But even still something like sexism is very different in my opinion to racism just because a lot of sections intentions are not malicious like opening the door for lady The intended to be nice but the reasoning behind it is sexist in nature because the idea that women are so wonderful that you need to open doors for them or that they're weak and can't do it themselves But as a black man I've experienced both racism and sexism in combination just because I am black and mail and because of that t…
/r/ExRedPill26/10/20 09:18 PM
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And I wish I could have told my younger self that especially back in my high school days because I foolishly thought that it was always on demand to create everything in the interaction from dates to sex but now that I'm older I realize that's not the case but even still there's a difference between intellectually knowing it and finding someone who is emotionally mature and open enough to understand and even accepted
/r/ExRedPill26/10/20 09:12 PM
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Of course and I agree but if it was that easy then I wouldn't be things like this subreddit and people would just naturally know what to say and do when they're around different people but people are so different and experience life so differently that it's impossible to tell what to do when how to do it at the right times.
/r/ExRedPill26/10/20 09:09 PM
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And I think that's why you have so many people who are angry at each other because you should be able to address both men and women's issues at the same time and if anyone is offended by having both sides issues addressed Now by asleep then that's that persons problem improves how biased they are Like you can care about the men's homelessness right and care about women walking around at night all at the same time as both are issues that have to do with us as a society
/r/ExRedPill26/10/20 09:07 PM
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I actually agree in the fact that both sexes face incredible pressures to conform to certain things And if what you say is true then what is the point of us trying to be more gender-equal and making our voices heard if there is no solution and especially as you say if you think that one gender has a better than the other cuz that can imply to any feminist or MRA also And believe me ask someone who does protest I get there is this weird Middle Ground of actually being the change you want and also…
/r/ExRedPill26/10/20 09:06 PM
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And I'm not talking about just the act of turning on someone or the in-betweens between interacting in the actual sex but I mean every single part of the interaction such as the escalating and excitement and flirting and so on What is expressing it at the wrong time and if you do it at the wrong time with one girl does that make you creepy but what if you do the exact same actions with another girl and she finds it okay? And to get over a sexual hang-up you do need a sexual partner also as I kno…
/r/ExRedPill26/10/20 09:00 PM
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This entire reply is my point If a woman has any sexual Hang-Ups or anything of the sort she doesn't need to work them out herself as most men would not care or at least help her through it and if that doesn't happen she has all the media and Society to tell her that is okay and not to judge herself too harshly Which is good but when you don't extend that to the male side it just seems too fake and not really serious If men are still shamed or are looked at as creepy than we are not in a sexual …
/r/ExRedPill26/10/20 08:57 PM
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No one should have to do their homework on anything and that's the point especially if you're trying to date someone and see them as an equal This is not the mine said you have when you pack to meet someone I don't hold every single woman I know to be able to learn about the black male experience and everything that encompasses it but I do expect them to be at least sympathetic
/r/ExRedPill26/10/20 08:48 PM
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And in the reverse a lot of socialized misbehavior women exhibit hard men and women as well And whether it's socialized or innate really doesn't matter it still makes it hurtful but women North feminism have a monopoly on who isn't treated well And even still if it is socialized how do you unseal shalyse years of messaging not that I'm agreeing with it as I am a black man so believe me I understand this Society has tons of horrible messages they give out but they don't only give out these crazy …
/r/ExRedPill26/10/20 07:51 PM
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Is it any different from how girls act or feminism or anyting that uses the same type of fallacy because before I even touch the red pill I wasn't feminist for years and it wasn't until I was older to realize that feminism has the same type of messaging that the red pill has only concealed As a man I was ready and willing to be open to any woman who wanted to be anything other than a caregiver but ever since I started trying my hand in dating and that's been since I was a teenager a lot of girls…
/r/ExRedPill26/10/20 07:47 PM
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Guys have the bargain of approaching and making the actual interaction happen but after that you have no idea that your confidence / style / personality is going to jive with said girl Like literally I've been single since I was 18 and I've been trying so hard and I'll be 24 in a couple of months and all I have to show for all of this hard work is that I can endure a lot of embarrassment and hold a conversation but actually having the success of snagging a girl successfully is still so foreign t…
/r/ExRedPill26/10/20 07:14 PM
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And I get that but it's hard not to consider giving the culture with the amount of women who say they have been abused or met some crazy dude who had abusive Tendencies and it's not just the amount of women but the frequency in which so many women describe their exes as abusive or hateful or mean and of course some of it is exaggerated as you get older and I realize that but it is a little off-putting and it does kind of make me wonder what is a good man and what does that entail especially when…
/r/ExRedPill26/10/20 04:35 PM
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So from one guy to another you can see why a lot of this stuff goes on between men and women just because of how much dissonance is added into an already awkward and socially crazy bunch. It's only years later that some girls I was into or some that were into me or even some who I didn't even know, who happened to be intimate but all of it got lost in translation because we were all young and still young and don't know what to do or say and I feel this pressure doubly so as a man because I'm sti…
/r/ExRedPill26/10/20 02:49 PM
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And of course in real time I'm pretty sure that is the norm as when I am on a date I'm not focusing on all the stereotypes of her gender but I know for a fact that she might be thinking about that to me as a male and it's not something that I normally found in my head but just from my experience dating as a guy a lot of girls do have some weird Hang-Ups about masculinity and how they project that on men whether it be how we talk or dress or how much money we met or even if we Smile as that has b…
/r/ExRedPill26/10/20 02:35 PM
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Touche but what I mean is almost anything any ideology hell even random thoughts to be considered something toxic and taking up headspace When you go to school and they teach you a myriad of subjects you do subconsciously pick up on all of it even the stuff you don't agree with and even the stuff you just do just to get by but some of it was a net benefit and positive for you and everyone else who went to school. All I'm asking is could you be more specific on why you hold that opinion And yes w…
/r/ExRedPill26/10/20 02:18 PM
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Of course that was her mental mindset behind it but we don't usually know all of that in dating or in many social interactions as it takes a lot of introspection to know that a first impression doesn't mean much and you have to get to know a person but after literally dating the girl and knowing her years later it's clear to me that she is the type of girl who craves on different types of man's attention Her dad cheating on her mom and she was bullied a lot and I think that's what started it off…
/r/ExRedPill26/10/20 02:12 PM
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I am very empathetic with you but your last paragraphs do not line up in real life as I had pretty much the opposite experience with my girlfriend and she stated that she wanted a thug type of dude and wanted to be treated like that only to complain about it later which I find to be a theme especially with the young girls nowadays I know men across the board with great social skills who are single and guess who those girls are going to
/r/ExRedPill26/10/20 01:23 PM
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Because apparently being attracted to women usually entails that other women are attracted to you and it's not really the sex I want but the perception so it makes it easier for me personally to find and keep a girl who I like and enjoy versus trying to impress a girl who's dangling her interest because she has other options that are not as boring
/r/ExRedPill26/10/20 01:20 PM
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I'm a little burnt out on dating right now but for the longest time my problems were letting my interest known and escalating with a girl and that's especially hard nowadays because my mind's been pumped full of feminist discourse such as not making her feel uncomfortable and being a big black guy kind of makes it worse for me as there's a lot of stereotypes and threat perception with black men but not every girl is neurotic and nervous as hell of every man so I'm trying to be more open-minded
/r/ExRedPill26/10/20 01:18 PM
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Be a little bit kore specific on why you disagree with him
/r/ExRedPill26/10/20 12:52 PM
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I got erectile dysfunction when I try to have a hook-up but I did get head but it was nowhere near the amazing thing that I thought it was going to be so I imagine what full-blown pnv sex would be as it's one thing to be told something is super amazing but another to experience it Just to give you some example on how I feel about this I smoke constantly and smoking weed with wooly better then getting head
/r/ExRedPill22/10/20 02:16 PM
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I've been on two dates this year but no sexual action and that's mainly because I'm still kind of iffy on the whole meat and sleep with people type thing that's going on with casual sex One girl was a little bit younger than me and she was cool up until she started making fun of random people on our date and then started to drink and drive. I paid for everything but I'm not upset about it and I do count it as a fun experience because other than that she is fun. The other was an older woman and s…
/r/ExRedPill22/10/20 02:15 PM
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Because I'm one hand it hurts the men who are paying for the only fans or whatever because they could use that money for better things and it makes the girls who use these things feel way better than what they really are and their ego gets inflated and the only reason why I say that is because I have dated women who act just like that
/r/ExRedPill22/10/20 02:10 PM
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Well I am a black man who lived in Alabama for a time when I was a kid and that's where I had my first race is encounter but it doesn't mean everyone in Alabama is racist the Alabama is historically a super racist state
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/10/20 02:03 PM
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One of my ex-girlfriends literally had some weird fetishization of black men and not the best of black men I mean the worst and thuggish type and she literally said this to me I'm looking back she was a type of girl that most men probably should not be around but that's besides the point I'm not trying to come down on you believe me it's just when it comes to something like this the limit is the imagination because we do not know on the individual basis what's someone's own personal sexual shame…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 02:51 PM
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I absolutely agree but I think more people should acknowledge that instead of saying that it doesn't affect men that much. And yes you are right it takes generations to change things and I am no stranger to that. I live with my grandparents and many of my African-American relatives who lived through the Civil Rights Movement still remember that and I just could not imagine what it was like living in a time when you were considered a second-class citizen.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 02:47 PM
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I mean shame on all spectrums as well not just the approaching or the inexperience There are some men with experience who still exhibit shame but it's a double slap in the face when Society tells them that they should be enjoying it and they should be studs and spread their seed with everything they f****** see. Believe me that may be the popular culture with Manny being applauded for a lot of sexual partners but there are still parts of American culture and culture in general religious are not …
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 02:41 PM
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No doubt but there are tons of things that are noticeably not changing either fast enough or not changing at all or the way people think Men are still very much shame for their sexual nature whether it be predatory or not being socially acceptable forms of male sexuality For the longest time since middle school I remember being made fun of for someone else's perceptions of me and what my sexuality is whether I was having too much or too less sex or who they thought I was having sex with
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 02:11 PM
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Okay so Sexual shame is a big problem in men and it's really telling that you think it's not and that is a big issue a lot of men are trying to get across is that we are filled with sexual shame if not more than women Let's sexual shame and more liberacion means all types of sex and sexual language and culture needs to be looked at in examine and from the male side most of my insecurities personally and what I have found with a lot of other males come from sexual shame But I'm curious where do y…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 02:10 PM
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I was just talking to my cousin about this last night Look up radicalizing the romanceless and look up Scott Aaronson who was a male feminist who has a similar story to you and me as I grew up with an extreme fear of looking like a rapist or a creeper also but I was also a young black dude so that was also a negative stereotype I did not want to perpetuate was the Super sexually aggressive black man and growing up with a lot of female and feminine influence didn't help
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/10/20 12:46 PM
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Okay but what do you think personally do you personally think there is such a thing as body positivity for men or sexual Liberation or sex positivity for men
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 12:36 PM
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If it was a simple as that I wouldn't be making this post
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 01:10 AM
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When you frame it like that of course it sounds crazy but most men work on stuff even stuff they don't even like to improve their standing in the eyes of women and that's not rocket science What reason should you do with then because I was perfectly fine with everything about me until I got a girlfriend and found out all about her crazy standards that make no sense and that's really the only reason why now today I still feel like I need X Y and Z and all of these other things to "self improve" I…
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 11:33 PM
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Yet at the same time most of these girls whom you speak of are probably around the same level as these meats or guys with no prospects because as a guy who was still working retail and not in my preferred field I will probably be looked at as an e but I still get hit on and I don't go after every girl
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 11:26 PM
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I completely agree which is why I can't stand it and it starts to kind of unraveled self especially as you get older because there are so many different penalties to manhood and then you start to wonder is there any man on Earth who can say he's a real man because it seems like to me a real man can't lose or cry or get upset or be broke or just exist outside the box of masculinity
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/10/20 10:57 PM
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A mixture of historical factors and ideas of masculinity and maybe 80s and 90s era Hip Hop But take it as a black man our version of masculinity it's just a stupid and weird and I'm consistent as any other version but partly because American society already sees black men as extra masculine and more stronger and more perceived as a threat and that probably has something to do with it as well
/r/ExRedPill18/10/20 10:42 PM
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Most men who are self-aware enough to label themselves feminists are of course going to want romantic success but we don't want to look like creeps or idiots or weirdos or Nice Guys in the process but when it actually comes to real life interactions some things get lost in translation I remember Middle School vividly and there are some things I said and did that were probably off-putting when I try to get a girlfriend at that age. But all of that was because I did not want to be a creeper and ne…
/r/ExRedPill18/10/20 04:09 PM
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Okay but what does oppression mean and I'm not questioning that women were looked at as second-class Citizens especially back in the day historically in some societies but I am a black dude also know what real oppression and getting beat down as like and when I see a lot of women saying that it does kind of feel like it's not the same 200 years ago while women were still subjected to their husbands my ancestors in brothers and sisters we're getting whipped and beaten. Do you really think all of …
/r/ExRedPill18/10/20 02:04 PM
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A lot of feminist dating advice just does not work because it's too focused on trying to keep the woman's feelings and body safe which is fine and I do get it but what women find in men that makes them feel comfortable and what women find in men that is attracted to them is very different and I'm starting to learn that. I've met so many women who worked out themselves as feminist but they will go date the embodiment of the toxic masculine person.
/r/ExRedPill18/10/20 01:54 PM
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I'm actually in the camp of believing that there is really no inherent man or masculinity but masculinity itself is just a set of super poor formative behaviors that some men may find more naturally easier or even yet some men may just be better at acting like it The only reason why I probably have not ended at all and have had made all the progress I have had as a super sensitive artistic man is because I am at least conventionally attractive as a man and even as I say that is not something tha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/20 11:19 PM
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Bulshit They have a choice to go work regular jobs like men do
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/20 11:12 PM
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I actually found that to be a myth and that's why I wrote this post and I don't disagree if that helped you personally but tell me I was in a point in my life where I probably would have typed the same thing to you but now a few years later I'm starting to wonder if just living your daily life in settings Les achieving goals is what leads to healthy self-esteem because I've done it and I still very much care about what people think as humans are social animals
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/20 11:07 PM
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You could say that with any ideology though. To give context I'm a black dude who has been pretty liberal / feminist most of my life but after discovering the red pill I'm a little bit more towards the middle even though I'm at least 75% left wing From my own personal experience I started dabbling in red pill stuff before I even knew it was controversial simply because it seemed like good dating advice especially alternately from the feminist type dating advice that just was not working for me b…
/r/ExRedPill17/10/20 11:01 PM
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Of course but I would argue that it's worse for men because most men want their female partner to be comfortable anyway but I doubt that most women would it be that understanding of men who were also inexperienced or has some crazy sexual insecurities
/r/ExRedPill16/10/20 01:32 PM
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honestly that was my best guess like I graduated high school in 2015 and I'm 23 now I didn't even encounter anything like the red pill until like 2017
/r/ExRedPill16/10/20 03:19 AM
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Thanks and what makes this harder is that I'm pretty sure most men do not want to do wrong by women especially with romantic relationships but some crazy s*** does Get Lost in Translation when we are trying to court women and that goes for women as well I got a female friend who told me that she dated and married a dude that she was not compatible with because she did not want to feel guilty for having sex with them and then I felt bad because she should not feel bad for dating a dude and wantin…
/r/ExRedPill16/10/20 02:38 AM
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I completely agree and that's why I've always been iffy with the red pill because the red pill mindset Is the type of mindset I had to fight and overcome for years. People telling you that you'll never get a girlfriend and how ugly you are and how much of a p**** or b**** that you are and of course it's all bulshit but it takes a lot of mental power to ignore it yet at the same time dating is a whole nother Gamble and that's where you see most of gender conforming on both sides because the ritua…
/r/ExRedPill16/10/20 02:04 AM
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Oprah light green with you and I've never had a shortage of female friends but it's not so much just a dating portion but the social part of it the kind of bothers me and I think that's why a lot of men joined a red pill It's one thing to know in to interact with something or someone who is positive and not toxic but there are also a lot of people who just do not care and are toxic almost as second nature and when it comes to dating and gender Dynamics, boys and men learn pretty fast what behavi…
/r/ExRedPill16/10/20 12:43 AM
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Honestly that's because not every woman is a good woman notice every woman aligned ourselves with them in his teachings The reason why the red pill took off is because almost every man has some Horror Story of doing everything right or being a good man and yet that not being enough I was a feminist too and I was raised by mostly women but now I'm an adult and a lot of the women that I tried to fight for do view me in a very Richard Winds of masculinity and that's where I learned that women are j…
/r/ExRedPill16/10/20 12:12 AM
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Things haven't changed right now we live in probably the most turbulent time when it comes to race and gender relations in this country so it does not surprise me that we have a bunch of people confused / frustrated/angry or just concerned about everything that concerns both men and women and how Society may or may not contribute to certain stigmas or stereotypes And I heed your advice about being mindful about accidentally hurting others or shooting yourself in the foot but most people aren't t…
/r/ExRedPill15/10/20 11:32 PM
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I'm sure a lot of men don't Define themselves by those terms if they do identify with the red pill but I do think it is partially accurate. I was a full-on feminist when I founded the red pill and that's what kind of confused me because I didn't really see any difference until I got a little older
/r/ExRedPill15/10/20 11:29 PM
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Honestly I think it was around the turn of the 2010s but I got in it after a bad breakup and going into college in 2015 Right now what is considered normal for each gender and how each gender conducts itself is a very blurred line and there's no real way or even right way to be a man or a woman but with romance and courtship there are certain rules and unspoken things that just a lot of people may miss and I have found that even dating itself is so chaotic just because everyone is an individual …
/r/ExRedPill15/10/20 11:19 PM
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Of course and I agree with that. But like Bill Burr said sometimes a lot of white women make the mistake of thinking they don't gain power or privilege for being white plus being a woman which unfortunately does mean a lot of people will look at them as something to be protected but most of the women I'm talking about really aren't complaining about that part Emmett Till was probably the premier case of a white woman using not only her whiteness but her femininity as a weapon because it was imag…
/r/ExRedPill15/10/20 02:05 AM
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Don't get me wrong I do understand that a lot of white women get inconsistently scared of black man and that has not been a secret for a long time in the country albeit be get we've made progress But I do think a lot of women need to be aware of that because as you can see now that we have smartphones a lot of these women who are making a fool of themselves in public and going out and acting like a Karen are white women. But the fear of black men is also sexism as it part racism and misandry. Es…
/r/ExRedPill15/10/20 01:50 AM
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I'm not talking about validation I'm talking about safety also because I am a black man who has had the police called on him and I have had Karens argue with me and start fights with me And from day one I have always been the most anxious because big black male bodies are seen as more dangerous and more muscular. And if you have kept up with the news for the last decade-plus you will see a lot of black men get the police called on them and it's usually by some terrified white woman
/r/ExRedPill15/10/20 01:22 AM
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It is not sappy at all and thank you and you are right being at peace with your friends and yourself is its own reward But you can see how it is frustrating especially nowadays since we are debating things such as gender and what that entails and what entails making a good man or a bad man Like I hate the thought of being seen as dangerous before anyone makes me but it is also equally insulting when someone straight out tells you that they thought you were dangerous before they got to meet you a…
/r/ExRedPill15/10/20 12:55 AM
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I think that's like a lot of men feel it's not that were scared of the girl herself it's just we don't want to end up being another story to her friends about how some weird / creepy guy tried to hit on her. When I was younger I would even freeze up when the girls would flirt with me just because I would not know how to respond and of course that didn't happen all the time but I had way too many instances where a girl took something the wrong way or saw something that was completely taken out of…
/r/ExRedPill15/10/20 12:13 AM
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Or he could be insecure because of how Society itself places so much importance on men's virility and Notch counts. And when I say Society I mean men and women
/r/ExRedPill14/10/20 09:34 PM
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Okay but don't you think these guys were maybe hesitated to show their interest or make any moves because they were terrified of being seen as too forward or too rapey or too creepy or too weird? I'm not coming at you as I don't think your malicious but as a single dude who has been making effort for years I just get a little frustrated because I have put in so much effort in myself and I have had the opposite effect in the women in my life as they all just make themselves look pretty but that's…
/r/ExRedPill14/10/20 09:08 PM
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A lot of men actually do put in effort it's just that not every woman is going to appreciate our efforts If you are attracted to them and you can tell they are attracted to you then why is it on them to make it known and you think that you have done all the work in the men aren't but that's just not true in this kind of proves just how different men and women are because of girl had told me that before but it was complete BS because I know me and all she had was an impression of me
/r/ExRedPill14/10/20 08:24 PM
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You would be right but given how stuff is nowadays it makes perfect sense to me
/r/ExRedPill14/10/20 07:42 PM
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I completely get it as I am a six six and very beefy black guy but I've always been described as a teddy bear and I am a visual artist so I love drawing and reading and history and colors and all types of stuff that could be considered feminist or feminine especially in the African American Community but for the longest time I did not feel like a person until I Was Eighteen because I had to tell myself it was okay being me and being a man and I do Envy women because I'm pretty sure if I was a wo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/20 09:11 PM
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Also you're typing this out as if it's easy for even realistic I can picture it now me in the future trying to date at whatever age when I'm a little bit more stable and then for women to reject me because they say me is too old for the experience or whatever reason
/r/ExRedPill12/10/20 07:35 PM
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That's not even a problem the problem is having all this stuff down but there's no guaranteed way to make a girl like you and all you have is your performance but if she likes you that's all on her but that said girl can still be wrong and hurt assessment of you and I think that's why myself included why a lot of men are confused So many girls I have went after her also been around the same economic stands that I am in for example but that does not really give me more confidence and approaching …
/r/ExRedPill12/10/20 07:32 PM
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I got banned from them because sometimes they're a little too Pro feminist but I have had seen some good post from them but I'm looking for actual help not someone who's just going to force me to be on team women right now
/r/ExRedPill12/10/20 07:30 PM
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Of course I'm not depressed because I'm single and it's not all the time but dating has caused me this huge existential crisis because I was in a much better time than this and I will still single so I do question how someone can have everything together and still end up single
/r/ExRedPill12/10/20 07:29 PM
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I haven't even really personally asked out a girl since last year so I know how to talk to girls and I have dated a couple of girls in the past but I wish I did know what I was lacking now And the fact that I have had some successes and some rejection kind of dispels that myth that if you're not socially awkward or fat girls will give you a chance I've seen many more awkward and more fat than I am a success and I have seen men super smart and super In-Shape single also
/r/ExRedPill12/10/20 07:28 PM
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Sorry but I completely get what you said about the whole Instagram thing I post my art on Instagram a lot and the amount of not safe for work stuff on their baffles me and a good portion of it comes from women whether it be drawn stuff or cosplay or modeling. And I'm not judging but growing up I was instilled not to be perverted and not to be a creeper but it seems like a lot of girls don't really leave much to the imagination
/r/ExRedPill12/10/20 12:07 AM
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Don't phrase it like that and I hate when people use it Being resentful for not getting p**** seems like a low blow and is very far from the feeling I feel now and I imagine a lot of men filled because I've technically Fooled Around and have kissed more girls than I have dated one and that's not bumming me out I kind of feel like when I was in a stage of just enjoying life I missed out on romantic stuff which is kind of like a drawback or ironic isn't it I wasn't looking for any romance or anyth…
/r/ExRedPill12/10/20 12:04 AM
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And I'm sure that happens sometimes but that's not really a guarantee and most men already do that but if that was the case most men would never be single and I know I'm not really speaking with reality in mind but hear me out I don't remember any time having friends of any type whether it be my male or female or nerdy or jock friends or whatever actually increasing my status and if it did I don't think it really translates into attraction for a woman and that kind of seems too Hollywood if you …
/r/ExRedPill12/10/20 12:00 AM
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The irony is I have so much life experiences over the other stuff and that's what hurts even more because I have so many different experiences from The Last 5 Years that are very rich and I didn't think I was too boring but the proof is there since I'm still single and the fact that I have struggled so much. And it's not just communities obsessed with women but in real life I have met both men and women who have crazy ideas and standards and part of the reason why I'm going crazy now is because …
/r/ExRedPill11/10/20 11:41 PM
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You could say the same thing about the feminist movement or any movement if any group of people have interacted with any other group and come to some conclusion and of course it is bigotry but with all things considered especially in this day and age, when we are being very honest about gender more than ever is it crazy to assume that a bunch of guys would come together and have these shared experiences for whatever reason whether good or bad or intentional. I agree with the o p that you can't l…
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 02:37 PM
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Of course but I have met probably three women in my life that fit that stereotype and even if they did Them having a bunch of cats doesn't really mean anything other than they like cats but don't get me wrong I do know the stereotype and it's mean-spirited I guess it will be the same as The neckbeard Stereotype but it is just a stereotype as I have a friend who fits the description of a neckbeard but he lives with his wife in the bottom half of his mother's house which is basically another house…
/r/ExRedPill07/10/20 11:28 PM
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Any comment or any statement could be cherry-pick but what I said doesn't make it any less true and I'm not knocking the girls don't go through something similar but this is something very uniquely in historical email and maybe we've seen a change in recent years but I I was born in 97 and I still remember being treated differently or bad because I was a boy or a man And usually that involves people questioning my masculinity or sexuality or if I've even had sex or if I have too little sex and t…
/r/ExRedPill07/10/20 10:12 PM
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Yes but no way near how men have it for the effect socially that it places on men But once again right now it's perfectly socially acceptable for a woman to abstain from all of that and I only that she will be celebrated for it And I know it's not that gendered because I've had people say that they were proud of me because I was still a virgin but even still I've gotten way more people making fun of me but not and I remember middle and high school and a lot of the girls there weren't getting bul…
/r/ExRedPill07/10/20 09:28 PM
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I don't doubt it but it's more socially acceptable for women to not date whether they choose not to or not and still not getting made fun of or have their femininity question There are a subset of women who straight up will not date other men because they have not dated or had sex with other women
/r/ExRedPill07/10/20 08:58 PM
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And I get that but for the circumstances and for how he was treated he kind of has every right to be I'm not saying being an a******* is a goal most people subscribe for nor am I saying it is healthy but I've been through similar stuff like your friend and when I was at my most positive it did help but nowhere near did it help with finding a new mate or getting respect. And it kind of made me feel worse years after to think that as a guy you could be in a nice head space but it's still not matte…
/r/ExRedPill07/10/20 08:38 PM
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I mean he really shouldn't have to let it go especially if so many people are treating him like that but he's expected to because he's the man and that's the social script when it comes to dating Hell as a black dude I get dirty looks and women acting skittish without any flirty or suggestive stuff going on. I can only imagine what it's like being short and bald and ugly and trying to date while taking all of this s*** and expect it to take it all without complaining
/r/ExRedPill07/10/20 08:23 PM
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It's definitely a mixture of both but I blame more of the outer Society just because me and already get so many unhealthy and toxic messages but no one is helping them. So many men wouldn't act out or choose lives of violence if Society did not give them that only option because if you are passive or nice or not so quick to anger than your stereotype as a wuss or weak and that comes from both men and women Men are judged on their bodies and their voices and how they act and how they behaved just…
/r/ExRedPill07/10/20 08:21 PM
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Also I got similar advice at age 16 + 18 + 20 + 21 + I keep wondering where all these girls who don't think virgin guys are weird.
/r/ExRedPill07/10/20 12:55 PM
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I've worked for it so damn hard and I cried for it so please don't tell me that
/r/ExRedPill07/10/20 12:46 PM
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I've been trying since high school and I'll be 24 in a couple of months and if it's not going to happen in 24 years it's just not. I've been literally passing years by watching other people when while I have been struggling. I'm done. My virginity should not be a problem even more so I shouldn't have to act like it's some forbidden thing to say or speak on. I've always been understanding towards girls and even if sexual past but I get laughed at and treated like I'm not an option anymore because…
/r/ExRedPill07/10/20 12:28 PM
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And believe me I know they're not I was raised by nothing with women on both my dad and my mom's side because unfortunately a lot of black men are out of the house via murder or jail I have always had a nice amount of female friends and I've always treated them like human and I get what you're saying but it's another one of those things where I have done it but he doesn't bring much luck and not to say that he shouldn't treat them as humans as they are but 99% of men treat girls like their human
/r/ExRedPill06/10/20 11:50 PM
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I think he means that he notices a severe judgment when men criticize the dating culture or even outright hated but a lot of women since I could remember have been very vocal about their distaste for men and their practices and behavior and this completely socially acceptable. I used to be a feminist but I left just because most famous really don't want to help men
/r/ExRedPill06/10/20 11:33 PM
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Believe me I used to be a feminist and I used to be red pill so I know exactly how both sides were things and I know exactly what tactics they use and I have been getting that vibe from this sub too And I get it man but I have been self-improving since I was a teenager I'm a retail manager despite being The College Dropout regrettably My artwork improves every day and my follower count gets higher everyday so obviously someone likes it I've lost weight and I have become way more intelligent and …
/r/ExRedPill06/10/20 11:30 PM
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I mean it's true man society does have a lot of issues and it Society is to blame especially if we can all recognize it in this day and age And that includes men and women and both men and women contribute to things like discrimination and racism and sexism and evil whether they believe it or not and whether they do with the consciously or not and I know this because I as a black man have been the victim of racism and sexism and I probably had had said something insensitive at one point in my li…
/r/ExRedPill06/10/20 11:23 PM
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Thank you
/r/ExRedPill06/10/20 11:21 PM
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Honestly I've seen so many different people getting relationships and these people range from the poorest to the richest to the ugliest to the prettiest But even still I find like those people still had to scrape up and work on certain things to even get there and it's even more confusing because so many different people have so many different standards and it's hard to tell where you fit personally. When I was younger my idea of being dateable was basically being self-sufficient to the point wh…
/r/ExRedPill06/10/20 11:09 PM
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Where I come from is not a good thing but it is more complicated since I do come from the hood and a lot of women even in my family have stated that they made bad choices chasing after thugs in Bad Boys but even still I'm still technically in the young man category of my life and so far that's what I've been seeing is a lot of girls go after those who are just not going to have their best interest at heart Now don't get me wrong I am from the hood but I'm very socially flexible as I moved around…
/r/ExRedPill06/10/20 11:06 PM
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I completely agree. He's not trying to win but simply wanting to make sure that he's not looking like an idiot or some type of a****** while only wanting to get to know a girl. I'm kind of burnt out I'm dating just because of this reason. Men are seen as akward or weird or creepy or like incest or to dominating or to toxic I internalize this to the point where it's pretty dope doesn't affect me anymore but I have long forgotten what you genuinely feel feels like simply because as a guy in this S…
/r/ExRedPill06/10/20 10:30 PM
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Tell that to my ex-girlfriend while being a virgin of the time still wanted a man who was better Tell that to the countless women who rejected me and I have rejected him have stated that they basically want the 1950s model of a man while being nothing themselves Tell that to Outer society as both men and women do it all the time consciously and subconsciously I've been through bouts like this and I've been in therapy but it seems like women do validate men otherwise virgin men wouldn't do so bad…
/r/ExRedPill06/10/20 10:24 PM
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Believe me man my ex-girlfriend taught me that lesson Very cute in my opinion but she was so riddle with self-esteem issues to the point that she made herself into a thot One man's love and attention is Never Enough for her
/r/ExRedPill06/10/20 12:05 AM
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I don't think he's not looking at women like they're individuals but the context of dating in the entire culture surrounding dating and the rules and Unwritten rules is what he is talking about and it gets to the point where it gets depressing and not worth it
/r/ExRedPill04/10/20 01:30 PM
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That's too harsh and too far of a stretch to say that he does not care about them and honestly I feel the same way he does and I still do look at the woman individually but that does not mean there certain traits are patterns that women share And there is no way for no proof that women somehow have more empathy than men do that sounds kind of backwards and sexist is for both men and women
/r/ExRedPill04/10/20 01:15 PM
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This is basically what red pilled me I was taught that women hated anything that made them out to seem like whores or loose but it seems like only when it's in the bedroom is when they want to be degraded and stuff and God forbid a man not like that stuff then he's looked at as a weirdo which is pretty sexist
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/20 07:44 PM
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You're right there is a fine line And I don't mean arrogance but a lot of women do mistake arrogance for confidence also and that probably has to do with it When girls say confidence I think what they mean is some dude who never loses and is always comfortable and always has stuff under control and that's just not true and I would say confidence is more of a mood but it never lasts Like I'm confident at my job at the moment and I'm confident in my skills and hobbies but it's kind of impossible t…
/r/ExRedPill03/10/20 04:05 PM
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But the problem comes when you say confidence and your brand of confidence and what type of confidence you find attractive or very different and every man's brand of confidence is different Many men are already confident and are taught to be confident yet we still struggle so that's why we turn to other stuff. I'm sorry it's just I've been feeling weird this whole week especially when it comes to this whole confidence thing because I highly doubt most people are at the level of confident that a …
/r/ExRedPill03/10/20 01:53 PM
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My protesting days are over and I'm done fighting and arguing I tried so damn hard and I tried so many different things and at the end of all that all that I've learned is just how much I suck. I didn't used to believe that but considering that I've been trying so hard and still single it does make me feel like s***
/r/ExRedPill02/10/20 12:52 PM
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And you say it doesn't look good in either gender but so many girls get a pass for acting in those behaviors that I died would be made fun of for I agree with you but I'm also looking at what society and socializing is at this moment and right now during this era it's really not changing that much If a group of women can literally go inside of a club in Scream and laughed our asses off and not be affected but a group of men can do the same thing and go look at weirdly then we have not made progr…
/r/ExRedPill01/10/20 11:37 PM
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I know why and I know that it is social as well as a lot of people are raised with crazy ideas but that's on those women just as I had to unlearn a bunch of crazy stuff I guess my point is if confidence is key then I guess I do expect women to act the park as well but even as I type that what is confidence exactly and what measures it I've been pretty depressed these last couple of years because I've been diagnosed but on some days I do feel like the greatest man on Earth but I have not really f…
/r/ExRedPill01/10/20 11:36 PM
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As a man I am now much more concerned if she is confident or needy because like I said she was allowed to be an act in whatever emotional capacity she want but if I do the same thing I will be looked at as weird and I just can't accept that especially if we are trying to be more gender-equal Plus there is just no way someone can measure someone's confidence because we all as humans as individuals can never truly walk in someone else's life day by day step by step all we have to go off of his our…
/r/ExRedPill01/10/20 10:46 PM
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And help my ex-girlfriend was extremely unconfident and needy but the hypocrisy came when she wanted a man who was not all those things and you say women are attracted to confidence and not needing this but what measures confident and not neediness We can say someone is unconfident all day but we don't know that person so how can we say for sure and his confidence a set of beliefs or a certain Behavior or a mindset? A lot of girls nowadays are very not confident and needy but they get the social…
/r/ExRedPill01/10/20 09:58 PM
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I get that but my ex-girlfriend literally was attracted to the Thug Type as she kept telling me over and over and we'll get on the thug type of dude in front of me I have plenty of emotional intelligence and that is why I am kind of single now just because I don't want to go to that thing again. It even before the red pill all the advice I received wasn't any good and that came from none red pill sources
/r/ExRedPill01/10/20 09:44 PM
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But you also have to realize how hard it is to disprove in your head when you find so many examples in real life When I was still in my blue pill stage I was pretty confident and I did exercise but I still found myself single and with an abusive girl and even afterward I still found it hard to even get a date so I went to the red pill because everything else was not working for me
/r/ExRedPill01/10/20 05:14 PM
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And to show that I agree even more I recognize that there are some dumb ass men who have crazy standards to But what you said about relationships and sex not being funny anymore is exactly how I feel about. I hate playing the stupid games and having to compete. I hate having to somehow show up other men even though I know I'm really not that much different And God forbid, I don't think even most men want to toy around with a woman's heart or cheat on her or make her feel ugly, but at the same ti…
/r/ExRedPill01/10/20 03:22 AM
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Someone once told me that it was done for boys to smile in pictures but obviously that was stupid and I had to unlearn that behavior I spent a lot of my youth being the least especially when it came to my gender but it took me all that time to learn how to become one with myself and not follow what others had to say but that was a uniquely male experience because I found very few Avenues where I could express myself without having my gender called into question and there are very few Pathways me…
/r/ExRedPill01/10/20 01:27 AM
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I completely get it Looking back my ex-girlfriend wanted some type of Superman who was always confident and never lose but was nice to her and always had money but not too mean and we all know how unrealistic this is but looking at all to do she's dated versus how she treated me it seems hypocritical because not only did she not find this type of dude but she could act as nasty and as mean-spirited as she wanted but expected mean to just wave it away because she has a vagina That's why I find a …
/r/ExRedPill01/10/20 12:39 AM
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And I get that but that's not something that is female exclusive and that's why I mean Don't get me wrong I completely understand if some men are crazy but rape is not something that just happens to women and violence isn't something that just happens to women and people being creepy isn't either I apologize I just always hated the idea that all men have to be looked at as weird or men had to be somehow policed or looked at like we're dangerous because I had to deal with that a lot as a kid
/r/ExRedPill30/09/20 11:32 PM
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And that's a plenty of right there to me because I feel like I shouldn't have to prove to women that I'm respectful and trustworthy especially if I know I am and I know what you're about to say but I just can't agree with it You guys seem to be in too easy of a position to be the ones approached and us be able to make all the rules but as a man I find it crazy because I pretty much done everything you have said with less favorable results
/r/ExRedPill30/09/20 11:14 PM
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I'm a visual Artist as I draw and paint and I'm pretty good at it but I've been an artist all my life so it's crazy to think that I have mastered a skill but I can't really say for sure that's something that's going to help with women because everyone has Hobbies
/r/ExRedPill30/09/20 04:59 PM
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That's the point you can't live authentically if you're literally lying to yourself and everyone around you And I am going to have to disagree about your points with the manosphere and even the African American Community as I'm sure there's some truth and what you said but as a black man who has been in feminist spaces and men's right spaces it was all because I found it interesting or something to fight for Conform is a good word and that's exactly what it is and I can't stand performing becaus…
/r/ExRedPill30/09/20 12:55 AM
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I'm a little bit in the middle which is why I'm conflicted because a lot of feminist discourse seems to be very confusing yet at the same time I do think they get it right when they say men and women should not be put into boxes but that have to exist across the board and in places where it probably does not benefit us I'm a comic book artist and it took me until I Was Eighteen to be proud of that and to actually show off my art because most of my childhood was spent being policed by everyone ar…
/r/ExRedPill30/09/20 12:42 AM
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I do try to keep an open mind and I'm not intimidated per se but when you say keep an open mind I expect the women to do the same instead of holding onto crazy standards that really don't matter Like if a woman makes a hundred thousand a year why must her husband makes 200,000 if both of them are still making a lot of money
/r/ExRedPill30/09/20 12:41 AM
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Forgive me for just assuming but I assume do you align yourself with more of the feminist thought considering this is X red pill
/r/ExRedPill30/09/20 12:22 AM
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That's the problem my guy That female dating strategies is horrible and it's basically the female equivalent of the red pill Then all hell to a lot of standards and some that are very similar to the 1950s because a lot of women call out their preferences for a Superman type dude If women are making the same amount of money or even more then there should be no shame and a woman should just be able to provide just like a man would have done thousands of years ago but that is controversial in itsel…
/r/ExRedPill30/09/20 12:21 AM
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And that's good that they pursued you but what I mean is that there should be a little bit more of that if we are trying to be equal and I do think the burden of pursuing and Performing that is placed on me and is very unfair especially if we're trying to be gender-equal A woman pursuing a man aggressively is a masculine thing and that's a good thing. It's showing that we are becoming a little bit more equal and that men and women should have the choice to do whatever and it should be normalized…
/r/ExRedPill29/09/20 11:34 PM
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But shouldnt it'd be a little bit more equalised especially if you're giving me the context of the 1950s and if that is true then men are most definitely still held to that standard
/r/ExRedPill29/09/20 11:32 PM
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But if we go are going off of evolutionary biology then what's the point of debating about gender equality then And I'm not talking about the little body language stuff women do I'm actually talking about women acting like men and actually putting one foot after the other and pursuing I've been hit on Two And I have recognized when I've been hit on but what I actually mean is like the women coming after you
/r/ExRedPill29/09/20 11:21 PM
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Don't get me wrong they did help me recognize toxicity in men and women and generally in people in general but having that strong of a pro female Buy in an anti male one can prove disastrous for a young boys self-esteem like mine It took me until I Was Eighteen to unlearn so many behaviors and ideas and I still am
/r/ExRedPill29/09/20 10:19 PM
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I do like the idea if embracing all of myself again and you are right that it is unfortunate that we are told not to be creepy or intrusive or weird yet we're supposed to somehow escalate and take charge and Lead and not every girl is going to find that appealing or attractive but we're also giving no other Alternatives that actually work Like dude I've been super Progressive even when I was a kid and I'm still waiting on the day when women are going to catch up.
/r/ExRedPill29/09/20 10:17 PM
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I have the opposite as I was raised in a matriarchal black family and my dad's side of women which includes my aunt and grandma can't stand man and it did have effect on me.
/r/ExRedPill29/09/20 09:18 PM
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Usually there's something going on downtown with art but I'm kind of scared to go just because I sweat a lot and it's an outside environment
/r/ExRedPill29/09/20 06:27 PM
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She was a cheerleader and seem to be very preppy but from what my other football friends told me she was the class for basically but that could mean anything especially in a college setting I did not want to deal with a girl who play surround with the whole football team but then again that's what they told me but if that was true how could I an artsy virgin measure up to her? The last thing I needed was the reputation of some fool who thought he was reaching above his League even though she was…
/r/ExRedPill29/09/20 12:35 AM
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I kind of been doing that as you are right there are some things that could go crazy like losing your job or reputation but at the same time I buy slated so much of my dating prospects to the fact that I'm not even sure if a woman is explain traits that are unwanted or she's just displaying them because it's socially easy Like I've said and done stupid s*** in the past but I did it because it was socially acceptable for me as a man to do so. I remember I used to be a Class Clown only because dea…
/r/ExRedPill29/09/20 12:09 AM
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I wish I had that my mom basically just threw me in whatever she thought would be good for me and years later I'm still dealing with the sadness and depression
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/20 11:48 PM
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Believe me I tried only the lucky few actually do get to hook up in the club the rest of the women are in groups and usually have the don't mess with me face In theory bars and clubs should be perfect but it's just another huge source of anxiety and competition for a lot of people
/r/ExRedPill28/09/20 11:44 PM
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Dee as a man I have to disagree when you say there's no real damage because it's not so isolated from your real life I remember trying and failing to flirt miserably and high school and that did nothing but give the rest of the girls gossip material Men play a big social risk when trying to date because it's not just a personal rejection but you got to also deal with Society after works
/r/ExRedPill28/09/20 11:43 PM
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I'm kind of in a similar what s I do feel a little bit more stable but I am also still looking at the years of my life where I thought I was at least passable in dating that just went by without any success and I guess that's why I keep turning back because I keep trying to find more answers as to why
/r/ExRedPill27/09/20 09:40 PM
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There are many great stories from like centuries ago all the way up to the 2,000 who had political message of some kind whether it be left or right wing or whatever that a lot of people could agree with Something that I loved about Daredevil season 2 is that when the Punisher was being tried, for..well..his punishing, a lot of people of various races are on opposing sides of what to do with him Naturally a lot of people don't like him because he can cause collateral damage while he's on his one-…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/20 04:12 PM
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I was thinking about trying to make it male friendly statements yet at the same time it's kind of hard. Right now they're definitely needs to be a push for accepting men just as they are. Whether they be Savvy or tough sensitive or assertive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/20 10:46 PM
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Well Marvel is pretty good at making their characters diverse and have personal flaws but I have started to notice that a lot of feminist messaging has inserted into marble and I don't mean just like changing characters races but a lot of women have become team leaders which is nothing inherently wrong with that but it really serves no difference to the teams or organizations themselves
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/20 04:11 PM
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I would argue that dating was always difficult and most dating is just guesswork. Plus just because you have a win does not mean you actually win. Like I haven't had a girlfriend in a couple of years but I have fooled around and kiss girls and have danced in gotten numbers and even though those are wins, my end result still has evaded me. Which was a long-term relationship
/r/ExRedPill26/09/20 01:09 PM
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It would help if everyone would stop saying that you need game all the time but maybe people would believe in him calm down but when I was younger that's all everybody told me was to have game And what you posted is completely correct so much of dating is not in our control and you could have so many good traits on paper but it all depends on the girl Something a man says or does can be creepy or attractive depending on the girl and how she takes it
/r/ExRedPill24/09/20 01:34 PM
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I believe in a feminist message but most feminists do not practice what they preach and it's easy to say you're apart of a peaceful equality movement but you also have to walk the walk and most women just don't do that and most feminists don't
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 11:47 PM
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You are correct it is a very uniquely blackmail experience especially when you are around mixed company just because so many people do expect you to act like X Y and Z but even if you do or don't it's still not enough My mom basically taught me to be a productive member of society but it's clear to me now that Society does not even respect most men let alone or poetic or intelligent black man Like I've had both white people and black people laughed at me for how I have spoken and my hobbies in m…
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 09:40 PM
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I've done things similar that your friend is has such as putting myself first or speaking first just to make sure no one else around me is scared or finds me threatening It's not all bad though and some feminism I also agree with but you can literally take any type of feminist Theory and applied to any type of man as well especially if we're talking about things that are unconscious or unseen prejudices Like I hate the fact that I have had so many people admit to me that they thought I was somet…
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 09:17 PM
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Thank you it is amazing how someone else can tell you about what really happened to you despite you being the person it happened to This is what I mean when I say feminists don't really care because here I am a black man giving my lived experience about trying to navigate the world socially and romantically yet this person is so adamant on trying to make me out to be something I'm not
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 08:52 PM
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I don't even follow people around the internet
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 08:47 PM
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I haven't blocked you because I'm not some crazy psychopath who doesn't like it when people don't agree with his viewpoint I actually do enjoy discussing this type of thing even if it is personal because we have to discuss it as a society that is made up of different cultures If the positions were reversed I would not want to ban you because I know you're not trying to hurt me It's just a disagreement and I'm pretty sure you're really cool in real life
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 08:45 PM
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And I completely get that and I don't want to take you away from your experience because I do that a lot of people see you as some type of Disney princess stereotype. At the same time I hate phrases like entitled to space or time because especially since you are a tiny white woman a lot of people are trained to approach you and a lot of women aren't trained to do the other way around It's to the point now that I don't even like walking to the store in my own neighborhood just because there's bee…
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 08:43 PM
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But you act like one and type like one and respond very snarky like one
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 08:10 PM
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I know you're not a real feminist you know the type to actually want to change stuff
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 08:07 PM
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The problem is you're not saying it in good jest or even out of the well-being of the person you're saying it to your saying it as a type of got you or to shut a person up That's the problem with feminists as they act like they want to help but what they really want is for everyone to fall for their ideology and just shut up and obey
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 08:07 PM
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You're a feminist and so do not try to act stupid And you're like a coffee shop brand as I know the difference between a coffee shop reminisced and an actual one and you are a variety that is super toxic and I can tell by your writing I used to be inside famous places while I was protesting in college so I completely understand how they think how they talk and how they respond to stuff And before you say it I don't need to go searching for your post history or anything like that you can just tel…
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 08:05 PM
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Of course I have friends real life that are of very cultural backgrounds that do understand what is those other people who just do not understand or even refused to I had a friend who is also an African-American but she's a tiny and very skinny woman she can't be over a hundred pounds One day she insisted that I just grabbed a girl and dance with her while we were clubbing From her point of view she can do such a thing because she's a tiny woman but me as a big black man I just cannot do that an…
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 08:03 PM
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I already know how it is as I used to be a male feminist in the way she writes and talks is the same way they used to talk down to me She's so encapsulated by her ideology that she doesn't even realize she's a walking hypocrite and that's why I got to leave feminism because you can't help yourself as an equality movement while making excuses for hating on men
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 06:45 PM
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It's not my fault that you were so stuck on trying to think that you're getting one over on me You're not a feminist all you care about is arguing
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 05:45 PM
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That's not what I said you idiot
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 05:34 PM
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I'm just adding on to your conversation and that is not crying Ask yourself why there isn't a male body positive movement now. Why do you think we have a woman's body positivity but not men's
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 05:03 PM
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Not everyone is unstable and of course you're going to meet some people who don't jail with you but I don't feel comfortable calling these girls unstable just because they had a few problems or I wasn't attracted to them or they need or whatever My ex-girlfriend had a huge insecurity problem to the point where she obsessed over it but I never thought she was unstable and yes I wish you would had gotten over it but I never tried to make her feel like she was weird because of it
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 05:02 PM
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If men made a body positivity movement it wouldn't be successful. If so you will have to address how both men and women discriminate against men with certain body types and I don't think Society is ready
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 04:50 PM
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No I didn't f** and the fact that you can say the same lines and another person take it positively proves to me that it was that person who took it wrong When I was younger and in middle school I used to be ashamed because I used to get in trouble all the time because I was a big black boy and a predominantly white class and it took me years stop thinking I was inherently causing trouble or making people uncomfortable so no I will not say I booked up people should have supper skin and stop jumpi…
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 04:47 PM
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Why because you want me to That's what I mean by no agency instead of saying this as a nuanced social interaction you want me to take the blame so badly. Yes looking back I could have came on his list wrong but I will not take the blame for being late is something I know I am not I dated before but your so focused on trying to insult me and trying to sound so smart that you don't even know it
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 04:43 PM
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Yes I get catcalled buy them but all I have ever wanted is just a normal relationship and it's nice to have the attention but other times you just want someone for you personally I know you're not saying that but the way you acting the way you write tells me that. Stop seeing anything a man does as something he does to a woman and a woman's reaction is her responsibility.
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 04:35 PM
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I have taken enough criticism and I know the difference between criticism and someone projecting and trying to get a gotcha and that's what you were doing I have tons of self-awareness and that's why I'm asking this question From the people of all Races men and women included do look at big black guys as something more dangerous and more sexual. Yes you're right the common denominator is me a big and tall black man and so far Society has not been proven me wrong about different types of discrimi…
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 04:34 PM
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Stop treating girls with no agency. It's not very strong And I used to be like that until I gained a backbone because I got tired are people messing with me and I got tired of coddling other women because of that's how I was taught This girl could have been more mature about it if she was not attracted to me. But you guys are so set on cleaning to your ideology that you guys think any guy is a creep I've been cat-called and been touched down by so many women yet I never called them creeps Even t…
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 04:32 PM
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And that right there. That same girl apologized to me because she knew she was overracting. But you wouldn't know that because you weren't there It is not my fault if other people think something about me and the only reason why you're calling me a creep is because I'm a man. All I did was try to hit on her but I have been physically touched on and cat called. By women. I've had two girlfriends before so clearly I was doing something right
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 04:25 PM
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Hell I just told you the story and how I have to get defended by the dean and the security guard yet you're so wrapped up in your ideology you scream about me being a creep even though you don't know me and that's a problem
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 04:19 PM
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But I wasn't being a creep and that's my point she took it that way I wasn't mentally ill and I wasn't unstable and even if I had the bipolar attack before I was diagnosed there's still no guarantee that you or this girl knew that This isn't the first time I had the police called On Me by white lady when me and my friends were just walking down the street One time I was walking down the street from my house and one woman got terrified and called her husband....who knew me. She had to take his wo…
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 04:16 PM
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But I do find the feminist position on this quite fascinating because I spent a lot of my time trying to think in terms of not offending or making a woman feel bad but a lot of moments in my life where that has happened was on the woman's part because she had some weird crazy expectation of me If you have any big mail ethnic friends or black friends ask them and they'll tell you.
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 04:11 PM
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Sure thing
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 04:10 PM
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Of course and believe me I'm way better off than when I got diagnosed two years ago but it is something to think about Mental illness still does not curve anybody else from responsibilities and social interaction And that goes for people with it or without it What is your point here
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 04:07 PM
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You know you can be bipolar what or whatever and still function and also just because crazy things happened to you does not mean it's the fault of your mental illness and that's a lesson I did learned even before then
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 04:05 PM
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Not really but if you want to think that
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 04:03 PM
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Even before I got the diagnosis I was in a much healthier place and you do not know me personally so I can't agree with you. The treatment for the bipolar disorder doesn't matter what I am saying is that there are two sides to everything and you can be wrong about someone at face value. This all happened way before I got diagnosed. People can be assholes and ignorant and racist people are even still.
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 04:01 PM
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That's my point something you could say in your head that could be flirty or confident or smooth to come off as creepy or weird and I'm pretty sure my race and size has to do with it also. And when I say police I mean the security guards at the School. Even my other big and black security guard told me I could probably to myself down because of what happened which I hate because so many things mix in with it such as race and gender and I don't want to act like something I'm not and go around tip…
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 03:35 PM
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I did that and it led to an abuser and you act like it's something that just happens magically once you stop focusing but that is crazy to me
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/20 08:07 PM
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Yes women would do it without men or with men as I have seen it happen Women are just as capable of being assholes without anybody for any outside force making them do so and the fact that you do not see that is sexist towards women
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 10:23 PM
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I have gotten it from all women that's why I'm not a feminist anymore because God meant too many women who do enjoy drama and attention from men and power for men and you are talking to a man who has been abused by a woman before and yes she was a white woman who thought that all black men were supposed to be super sexual and aggressive and she obviously had some super racist fetish for us. Most of the women who have grabbed up on me and twerk up on me all white women who have made very sexual c…
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 10:13 PM
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Women play along with every single type of dominance hierarchy and every single stereotype for both men and women as women live in and contribute to society equally just like men My ex-girlfriend was very much like a jock as in she was a bully and bullied tons of people who she thought were inferior and angry and she was a girl I've had tons of female bullies and I have even female friends who although are not mean or evil do sometimes subconsciously judge men on their gender. I can't speak abou…
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 09:53 PM
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I have listen to tons of women complain about their abusers and sometimes they exaggerate and sometimes it's their fault for putting themselves around them And you're right you shouldn't expect people to act one way but when you have tons of people exclaiming that they subscribe to a certain highdeology and then those same people not actively Walk The Walk then they are hypocrites and I can't stand it. And if girls were such Masters at social cues than they should have seen through the guy prete…
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 09:45 PM
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That's what I mean and that goes without saying especially when you age as that happens naturally As you age you get more opportunities to do different things especially in emerging adulthood. And I do the same thing looking back at the younger me and seeing the mistakes I made but this does not equal the younger you were being immature as you can be any age and be immature or stupid or dumb. Ever since I got out of high school I have work two jobs and tried my best to keep myself afloat while t…
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 09:41 PM
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And this is crazy and a pet peeve of mine as a young person is that a lot of people say that there's some type of got you but there is no way for me to increase my wisdom more life experience other than letting my body age. Yes I'm under 25 but I am nowhere near immature because I had to raise myself and I had to do a lot of things to help myself and I know that's hard to convey online but that is the truth. And I've been called pretty mature for my age and real life so it is crazy to me that pe…
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 09:33 PM
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I guess my point is we all have reasons why we act in certain social situations but at some point we need to stop especially if it comes off as rude and I get it as I was a few minutes before and I used to use the same talking points but there is no excuse for someone acting b***** and girls need to learn how to reject gracefully. If a man comes up to you and asks you out normally and politely you don't get to call him creepy or weird or talk about him behind his back as if he's a weirdo. Especi…
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 09:32 PM
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You type it so easily but how people are socially in real life does not line up A lot of women act like that because they are socialized and brought up to be as no man is making them act like that and you can't blame the few men for reasons on how people act. Like I said I'm a black man and I had anxiety for years because I had countless examples of people acting racist towards me yet I have to still learn how to live and not act like a b**** I get tired of the excuse of that somehow because som…
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 09:30 PM
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I find it to be a constant with everyone my age because I've even met some potential sexual partners who did not know what they wanted Plus as a dude you just do not know what intentions a girl has because traditionally we are supposed to pursue. I've met so many girls act like princesses who want to be pursued despite it being 20-20 and that's the biggest thing that's tripping me up right now because the way I was raised versus how people are down is very different.
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 09:27 PM
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If that is true then we as men are equally not responsible and should not give a flying f*** about any woman's issues or anything like that but they do As much as feminists like to infantilize women, women can be abusive and right b a narcissistic and outright cruel and they don't get a pass to just do that because some men hurt some women I'm a black man and I have had tons of racist assholes f*** with me in my life but that doesn't give me the right to go bust open the heads of every white per…
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 09:17 PM
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Honestly neither and both at the same time at this point just because I've missed out on so many chances at sex looking for a relationship and vice versa I wanted a relationship but I'm not expecting most girls to want to coach and an experienced man and if I do want to have sex I rather it be just a hookup because I don't want to stay around for her to act all awkward or weird.
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 09:13 PM
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If that's the case then every guy would act the same and be the same and try to sound the same in every girl too and I get what you're trying to say but most people are confident enough to go about their day and do things and I do think it's crazy when you say there is some Universal confidence simply because if that was the case then men and women wouldn't get rejected if their confidence was that important and I know there are other factors why but when people say confidence is the most import…
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 02:24 PM
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Don't get me wrong I am proud of myself but it kind of sucks to think that you keep getting told do X Y and Z and you will be rewarded and then you do X Y and Z and you still find yourself alone I know so many crazy dudes right now who have no home training or job skills or can't even speak regular English yet they regularly get women and you could argue these are the broken girls but these girls are making choices to be around these guys I can't stand the thought that being the good guy and bei…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/20 02:12 PM
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But they don't know that from those interactions Everyone's brand of confidence is different and there was still no way these said girls could know unless they got to know you Like I can tell you personally that I am confident but it's another thing for you personally to believe it if that makes sense
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 02:00 PM
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In good faith I would agree with you but the feminists are going to find any reason to hate and the name does not matter. It's amazing that you have a generation of women who were brought up to treat themselves better and to not file for gender stereotypes yet Society seems almost dogmatic to still see men like we're still living in the 1950s
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/20 01:57 PM
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Exactly and I'm a little burnt out on the self-improvement just because I am still poor and living with my grandparents after 5 years of self-improving And you don't get participation points or points just for the self improvement it has to matter and it has to work.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/20 01:54 PM
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This seems like too much of an excuse for women shity behavior in dating. At some point I think a lot of girls do realize that not every man is going to bust your head open if they say no and it is very unfair that you are looked at as some type of danger and it's hard not to take personally because I am a black man and I have had experience with someone thinking I was dangerous I've heard this argument before but I just can't agree with it because men go through a lot of similar things also but…
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 01:38 PM
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But see why is it always on the guy. If I was being myself why couldn't they just pick up on that but it seems like you're saying no matter what I as the guy have to act and just know
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 01:35 PM
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It's not just a relationships though anyone whose live life should know you could work 100% as something and most of the populace could care less or even notice @defo18.art That's my Instagram and if you follow it or Google me you will find my artwork and I can tell you as a visual artist I'm 23 but any artwork you see that I made this here is the result of the last 17 + years I could hold a pencil coming into fruition and even still though I am good and have made some money on the side I'm nowh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/20 02:10 AM
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I can't speak for anybody else but for me it comes from being on paper what Society wants and what women say they want but instead I keep finding myself losing out to the dude who is literally societies definition of toxic masculinity. Also like you said I self improved without thinking about a relationship but now that I'm older and wanting when people keep telling me I need to self improve... That's why I'm a little confused myself because I'm thinking to myself I had a bunch of Gears where I …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/20 01:49 AM
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I think you can carry some negative or positive feelings into interactions but they depend on the person And please believe me being a 6ft 6 black man working in retail where mostly women come in, they let me know that they like me and sometimes they do it not so subtly This is still very new to me just because of how much attention I did not get and how much I have to work to get here now
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 12:41 AM
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And I do get that yet at the same time it's crazy because I've gotten the same thing but the difference is I have to approach because I'm a man I get you don't see it that way but when you set up something like that it does kind of come off as all the past people did me dirty so you have to pay now Men get insulted for approaching women and sometimes women aren't the best at rejecting gracefully. Like it's okay to reject a guy but don't call him out his name or try to make him out like a creep o…
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 12:40 AM
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And I'm sorry if that is your experience but from my experience that is so far from the truth and I get that on the female side you may deal with salty men but we get it equally to. I regret trying to go after some girls because they had to reject me in the worst way possible like calling me names
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 12:36 AM
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But we men should not have to pay for what the assholes do. I had an ex who thinks like that who try to make me pay for every single transgression that passed mended and she still ended up cheating on me but I had to pay the price for all her past boyfriends I kind of do think a lot of men do try to meet you guys halfway but men and women art socialized differently and are brought up differently but I've heard this argument before and I just can't agree with it I'm sorry you get called b****** a…
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 12:35 AM
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These are things I already do yet at the same time I feel like it's stupid because girls and should exercise more agency and I should not have to rely on guessing her social cues especially if we're supposed to treat men and women with the exact amount of agency I do think it is mostly look and guesswork because your girls are relying on visual cues instead of their words than a lot of guys do miss them
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 12:17 AM
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It sounds horrible but most people do it anyway as we can't read minds and tell who likes us. So I guess it sounds lonely but it's doable Like I thought I was pretty much and Oakley f***** until women started showing attention and even then you have to capitalize on that attention
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 12:15 AM
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I guess live as I have. I've gotten female to attention before but almost never when I wanted it or when I was the one pursuing. It does kind of single person knowing that you could get no attention from the opposite sex
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 11:56 PM
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I tried all types of strategies and I did Club but I wasn't looking for any set thing like an LTR or a hookup The only reason why I even participated is because it's socially acceptable as I really personally do not agree with hookups but you can't fight the culture And intellectually I know you're right about girls not caring because I've seen it but I've have so many experiences telling me that I need x y and z and I hate that I feel this way.
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 11:42 PM
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I completely agree yet at the same time just because men are around does not mean that they are positive role models ass my dad is not around but the few men who were we're also like my dad as in they sold drugs and we're in and out of jail We need to tell young boys if they are okay and strong just as they are without putting any catches on it. Men would not feel pressure to commit crimes for money or wealth or whatever if we weren't pressured so damn hard sense Elementary School to be the best…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/20 12:39 AM
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Honestly I'm starting to feel the same way as I don't know what happened between age 10 and now but girls are super coddled to the point where they don't even realize they are My little brother isn't doing so well and that is because he is a man and despite me my family and his friends loving him for who he is I know for a fact that the world that which both men and women live will judge him for a myriad of arbitrary points of trying to be a man. The only reason why I turned out well is because …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/20 12:37 AM
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Nobody but I'm just letting you know that I know that we here online have good intentions and probably don't fall into gender Norms butt you can best believe that in the real world people are judging people by gender everyday and very unfairly. That's why you see men acting crazy because trying to be the nice and normal chill dude and please take my word for that as I was the nice and normal chill and laid back dude for years,... sometimes it just doesn't cut it and you realize that you make you…
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 10:37 PM
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What if you were just being yourself and you find yourself being called boyfriend material or a nice guy and the same girls who called you that go after the opposite
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 10:22 PM
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That's something I'm currently dealing with as I was raised by nothing but women and I was raised up pretty feminist but that is until I got to college and started dating and I started to realize that a lot of the things the women in my family taught me did not line up in reality. And it's a shame that being a good boy or man is something not respected anymore. And I believe that's why you see a lot of men going off the deep end simply because being a good dude is not respected
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 10:20 PM
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I do agree I hate the stereotypical masculinity but you can't blame them because everybody including men and women and feminist and MRA contribute to the stigma Like it's easy for us on an online for him to say that men can act or do anything without judgment but anyone who's gone to school or even has had a social life knows, For men you have to act a certain way or at least not acting in other certain ways unless you want to be branded a weirdo or free or anything else But it's too easy just t…
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 10:18 PM
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Because unfortunately a lot of people still see men acting anything outside of the 1950s variant as weak. Even I have been guilty of it but it's definitely still here despite us being more Progressive. Does the reason why men still try so hard to compete and seemed like the best and that is because whether it be biological or sociological, we are expected to be the best or at least try otherwise we're not real men I can see where the red pill men are coming from because I have had girls who've b…
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 10:17 PM
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I agree I hate the red pill YouTubers also because they all puddle the same stuff like people don't know the cookie cutter advice or haven't even tried it I've been listening to different sides of this debate for years and I have yet to find any single solid piece of advice that carries though I have had a combination of a few pieces of advice that have helped but only situationally
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 01:51 AM
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I know I'm an outlier and I know other outliers for sure but I don't disagree with you I haven't been arrested or been in any gang activity and I graduated high school and I'm pretty social though I am bipolar. We need to start normalizing two parents in the household again because I know children of single fathers as well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/20 08:15 PM
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I kind of seen that happening. I was never one of those guys who lined about girls going for assholes but it's so damn true and it shows because the amount of girls who say they have been abused by horrible men and a frequency of how many times they go back to these men proves to me that there is some type of problem. Plus the fact that there are things like onlyfans seems to address there is some type of breakdown of gender relations
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/20 03:08 PM
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Honestly the way my mom raised me vs what I'm saying now as an adult just does not lined up and I feel like that is a problem despite no malicious intent of my mother's part And I can see that in the wider Society as there's nothing wrong with men being more withdrawn or more social or into technology or art or whatever but we've also taught young man that nobody respects them. Guys have always been the butt of the jokes and both men and women judge men very harshly even when most of us are aver…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/20 03:06 PM
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Why do you say that? I turned out relatively well but I also have a bunch of peers of mine who also did not turn out very well. So I get what you mean. But I would argue I would have turned out worse if I was raised by my dad because he's a walking stereotype but why do you feel this way
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/20 02:52 PM
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Most men are homeless and do not get me wrong there are homeless women but to think that we have so many societal disparities and yet a lot of girls do fit the categorical drama queens whether that be how they were raised or otherwise. Like when I was in high school and college so many girls made their problems out to be first world problems but when I got out of school and finally immerse myself into the real world as an adult I started to see just how privileged a lot of girls are compared to …
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 10:34 PM
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I'm from the hood and my ex and a lot of other girls I've tried to mess wit included have exactly have this intimate to the point where they don't really want love or dating they just want attention and bragging rights and status I don't like the red pill either but they have that part spot on is that a lot of girls whether they know or not do contribute to the whole status-seeking culture. Most men are homeless and in my city the most people I see walking into feet are men. At the same time not…
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 09:02 PM
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Of course that part is unrealistic but the fighting could be translate the into anything other than the fighting itself but there is a bunch of cringe-worthy girl power stuff and that is what I'm talking about. I'm a comic book artist dude and please believe me when I say I get a lot of that stuff is unrealistic and it's supposed to be but the fun of it is being able to connect the dots between the fictional and the real world. What makes Matthew Murdock great is that he is blind and can kick as…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/20 11:57 PM
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My problem isn't that you're trying to be girl power but they can do it in a much better way. There's the reason why people still love Kim Possible and that is because she was Kick-Ass but she also was a nice person and needed to be around and she didn't hate on men or women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/20 11:47 PM
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That's you projecting
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/20 11:45 PM
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I actually used to see it as entertainment and even something to be admired but now that I'm older it just does not lined up in reality. Like art imitates life but sometimes people reach too much and I say that as someone who is in the writing and artistic industry
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/20 11:29 PM
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No one said that
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/20 11:29 PM
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And that's a projection right there because it's crazy to think that. If it is is due to lack of boundaries in lack of investment it's on both the man and woman to make sure things are going okay but I find a lot of women think that men are supposed to read their minds. Also I'm not arguing with you or angry or anything but sexual politics has always been something that are nuanced and something that I became interested in. Like I said I have many chances but I was trying to be respectful to tho…
/r/ExRedPill15/09/20 10:59 PM
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I've have tried. Its not easy. Virginity is still something that you're ashamed by men and women . I've had tons of Missed chances but that's mainly because I wanted it done with someone I loved It's crazy that no experience is such a deal breaker. Especially since most guys wouldn't have a problem with it. And the reasons girls give kind of throws me through a loop because it feels like they're making excuses for their own insecurities and self akwardness.
/r/ExRedPill15/09/20 10:57 PM
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Which does kind of make me feel if it because if that is your stance it kind of seems like if a guy is inexperienced most women do not want to teach. The fact that we can categorize sex into being good and bad kind of proves that women have harsh criteria. Like I'm a virgin and I'm only a virgin because my long-term girlfriend made me wait and then ended up cheating on me. All that practice that I could have had is gone and no I'm not entitled to her yet at the same time it does kind of make me …
/r/ExRedPill15/09/20 10:43 PM
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I agree with everything you say I guess what I'm trying to say is that for everything we have been taught growing up about liberating women from older stereotypes are roles I do think it is hypocritical that women are not self-aware enough to realize they contribute to both ends of stereotyping. Like you can't be screaming about how we need equality of the sexes, when you still treat men as if it's still 1950.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/20 01:48 PM
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I would argue modern day feminism is not needed as the feminism of the past definitely did help liberate women but today's feminism is more like coddling women and telling them they can act and do anything they want without judgment from other women or men and that's just not reality
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/20 12:16 PM
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We we're both virgins and she told me to wait but what she really wanted was for me to seduce her because she still thinks that that's a man's job even though she claimed she was a feminist. Of course I know there's nothing wrong with acting on my sexual urges but once again I'm a guy and reactions have varied greatly and I'm pretty sure as a girl you probably haven't completely different experience but virgins and men with little experience are still very much looked down upon by both men and w…
/r/ExRedPill15/09/20 12:06 PM
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Okay so as a woman and I do ask this as unjudgmental as possible... Why do you think you are attracted to him but other girls did not give him a chance? Being a biologist is such a fucking kickass career and he must be super intelligent to be able to pull that off. Yet what I imagine him to be without me knowing him is a nerd like me judging by his weight and his profession but that does not mean he is inept or creepy. But a lot of people do judge at first glance as it is natural and I know for …
/r/ExRedPill15/09/20 03:28 AM
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that's my point I have failed where I tried too hard but I also have failed when the girl wanted me to try harder I'm pretty sure my ex wanted me to sleep with her even though I refused just by her body language and the words she choose to use. I've had a female friend tried to sleep with me and I have had a one-night stand but a lot of my failures came from trying to be mr. Respectful and non-creepy because I was raised by mostly women and that is what I heard every single day. I have ran with …
/r/ExRedPill15/09/20 02:52 AM
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And I do get when you're saying I need to look at my self conscious but I've had too many real life experiences that prove to me that is not in my self conscious mind but is actually a truth or reality. People tell me daily that I am not what they expected because I'm a big black dude and that has carried over into dating because a lot of girls think that big conventionally attractive black men are super masculine and super sexual and I am not but these girls have no problem telling me this and …
/r/ExRedPill15/09/20 02:34 AM
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That kind of discourages me even more to think that. It's been 5 years since I broke up with my girlfriend and even before I met her I was still self-improving yet I can't say that this is something that has work for me that has made girls notice me. What I'm saying is that even if you self improve to the best of your ability and at whatever trait you think you need to improve it still no guarantee and I have found that some of my insecurities didn't even matter and some things that I thought di…
/r/ExRedPill15/09/20 02:29 AM
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I agree but you can understand why the red pill temp so many people just because of how close to reality some of its content can seem Like I dated a straight up abusive woman who touted herself as a strong feminist type but was really super insecure and needed tons of different men's validation. She ended up cheating on me after making me wait to have sex with her because she wanted her first time to be special yet the girl ends up cheating on me without ever verbally saying that she wanted to g…
/r/ExRedPill15/09/20 02:05 AM
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I do agree with that and a lot of women do not see it because they were born in a time that does uplift and Empower them which is a good thing but you do both halves of the gender equation not just one and you can do both and Empower both genders at the same time I went out with a girl who seems to love attention as shown by her social media and even when I was out with her she continuously stayed on her phone. This girl still expecting me to operate in the old model of the male gender role whic…
/r/ExRedPill15/09/20 01:58 AM
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Like yeah I know men and women whom on papers seem like horrible partner's. Yet they enter and leave relationships every few months. Like I knew a dude who was the campus a****** and that's probably why he got so many girls but a lot of people dislike this guy because of his attitude. By his personality alone a lot of girls would dissuade him but he is conventionally attractive and he is also a raging assholes which a lot of girls do misconstrue into confidence. I know a girl who is super gorgeo…
/r/ExRedPill15/09/20 01:54 AM
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Okay your boyfriend is a prime example. I bet to you and even to him he seems like a great catch and I don't doubt that you love him or are attracted to him or anything but I do know that 300 pounds is a deal-breaker for a lot of girls. He was probably told all types of things he needs to do or work on, yet he was able to get you. Like when I was younger I tried so hard to hide my sensitive side because I knew that a lot of girls did not like it and I do know there's some girls do but given my e…
/r/ExRedPill15/09/20 01:51 AM
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That's why I am also a little skeptical of all of these movements because when you do compared to women to men there are a lot of things that women do they get passed off as normal female things but are really entitled and nature and part of that to blame is thirsty Men and social standards. I've met so many girls with so many crazy standards that I don't even think these girls really want the man to have these standards but they just want some idea of a great dude who just so happens to never j…
/r/ExRedPill14/09/20 05:32 PM
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I have tons of female relationships and friendships so I have no problems connecting with others on the friendship level but you can't blame me with everything I've been through. I do care despite what you think and I only argue so heavily because I have too many real life experiences where I took some advice that sounds great on paper and should work but it backfired and I don't know how to convince you of that but I will not accept the fact that you are mischaracterizing me over a few post I m…
/r/ExRedPill13/09/20 01:23 PM
1

That's the problem They're so focused on keeping their ideology over helping or accepting what works. If five hundred men use the red pill and it works successfully to them then of course those men are going to keep doing it if it keeps working despite the moral failings and I'm not saying I'm that type of dude but I can see why some dudes turn out like this Tommy has crush on Lindsay. Tommy does everything correctly on paper as he is attentive and confident and non-judgmental towards her despit…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/20 12:31 PM
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I followed by channel to and that's why I left being a feminist just because of how misandric our culture can be and often times it goes completely swept under the rug
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 01:59 AM
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Of course not. I'm just pointing that out. No one said anything about the world revolving around me.
/r/ExRedPill09/09/20 08:50 PM
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That is a lie. I'm bipolar and I just recently figured that out but four years growing up all the boys in my community were taught to basically a stoic and not show emotion and anybody with any serious mental health issue was looked down upon.
/r/ExRedPill09/09/20 07:10 PM
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I agree but like you I don't think it should be as socially acceptable behavior Men are constantly told to open up and be vulnerable but women subtly you just use social cues that sometimes don't even work and then blame it on men like we're socially inept. Believe me I work in retail and it's a lot of middle-aged women so I get hit on a lot and I'm able to tell. Like especially if it's a few ladies in the group if to engage with you that usually means they're okay but that one who doesn't and i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/20 07:07 PM
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It's an ideology just ask the red pill is and any ideology usually is something that needs to be brought up because when you allow yourself to operate inside of an ideology you blind yourself to its opposite and not only that Sometimes your ideological beliefs conflict with themselves. Just look at the concept of intersectionality which I do believe in. Even within that Paradigm you still find that there's some type of hierarchy like white women at the top and minority women at the bottom which …
/r/ExRedPill09/09/20 01:56 AM
1

I completely agree that's why I don't trust the red pill either yet at the same time I used to be a feminist and please believe when I tell you that generals really aren't disappearing like that. We like to think they are because of the media but men and women are still generally treated like it's 1950. Next time you're out in public and see a group of children with their parents look at how the boy children are treated versus the girls and then you'll see
/r/ExRedPill09/09/20 01:48 AM
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You say that like feminism is not also holding a lot of people back because believe me I know a lot of women and feminist who aren't ready to leave they are gender roles which makes them comfortable And take it from a big black dude it is not that easy for people to leave old rolls behind. I would like to think if there's no more racism but I have personally experienced it almost every year of my life. Misogyny misandry are very real
/r/ExRedPill09/09/20 01:27 AM
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I have hindsight I dated a girl who liked me but come to look back at it she only really like the idea of me. She touted herself as a strong feminist woman yet wanted so much male attention. She acted like she was some strong feminine archetype but please believe me that was all just a cover and I have met a lot of girls who are like that But I do recognize that's been my experience and I'm pretty sure not every girl is like that but as a guy gets hard to know and vet because A. Women get social…
/r/ExRedPill08/09/20 09:09 PM
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I know it's so damn insulting and it's not cute. It's not the universe or God or Men or patriarchy making you continuously put yourself out there to be preyed upon by abusive men and I'm tired of society feeling bad for these women who do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/20 02:33 PM
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Of course and that's exactly what happens and that's why I hate how they act so coy and ignorant especially if these women are putting themselves in environments where that thing is going to happen It's like women are screaming please come date us!!! but don't do it like that and not like that but not like that but not this way and not at that time and not at that time and not at that place No men are approaching us! And that is because modern men have been taught since kindergarten bet you can'…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/20 02:12 PM
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Exactly especially if no one is working on changing the "me Tarzan, you Jane" paradigm on dating. Like so many women can judge men every step of the way yet if they actually practice what they preach and try to do like men do then they would learn and realize how much we go through especially if they still want us to pursue and be spontaneous Most guys the Middle School start trying to game girls and they figure out that even when you have the courage and take a rejection sometimes it's not a wi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/20 02:04 PM
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Not only that, so many women's Behavior will be considered harassment if the genders were reversed I've been touched on my chest and shoulders and hair and been twerked on all without my consent and sometimes out of nowhere but it's supposed to be cute and normal because they're girls and I'm a guy so I'm supposed to want it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/20 02:01 PM
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Exactly that's why it makes me angry whenever I try to say the same thing to women because they refuse to accept that they themselves play a role in making us what we are or are perceived gender-role from the age-old patriarchy Even my own mother who raised me by herself tried to mold me into the perfect African American man and I realized a lot of that was mostly for women and to get compliments from her other girl friends. Like the same way feudal Lords would literally be proud of how sexually…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/20 01:59 PM
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And that was the saddest thing about it because I don't think women are taught to reject well because too many women think they can just hold their nose up and believe you're beneath the presence even when you're not hitting on them and I've witnessed it personally asked some girls straight up told me she wasn't interested and I'm like I wasn't even hitting on you They like the attention they just hate the person giving it She should apologize if it was a man or woman because you don't treat any…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/20 01:56 PM
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That's it exactly and that's been my experience being the cool / chill / nice friend They always say how perfect you are and how you will find someone yet at the same time if you complain they'll say you're not entitled but ever since I was a kid, I witnessed little girls being coddled and basically told how the princesses and deserve the world which is the complete opposite of what boys were taught.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/20 01:50 PM
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Yes I am a black man have been falsely accused and have been accosted and have had the police called on me and most of the time it was by white women. It's not just about being black though, it's just something about Society seeing men as just an inherent Danger that is just crazy to me. Most men are also protectors and I mean that in the literal sense, as I have fought older men to protect my mom who is a woman but I don't get any thanks for that and instead I'm looked at as a danger and that's…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/20 04:57 PM
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I am not about to go scour the internet to look up all these sources and if you are a human being you should be able to see it with your own damn eyes Both men and women bully which contributes to all types of mental health problems for everybody in society but my point is we still do not even think to acknowledge that women can do bad things because Society still thinks women are wonderful and I'll have Halos. You know you can't agree and give someone new information right. Like I said I'm a bl…
/r/ExRedPill06/09/20 02:03 PM
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Duh. That goes without saying I'm not talkin past her. I'm giving her an example of where her ideology crumbles up because you are right both men and women do have problems and it is society but everyone black white male or female contributes to societal problems whether they think so or not Society is just as misandric as it is misogynist and that is my point It is not only women but God I have yet to see Society actually acknowledge that women do contribute to the messed up stuff and instead a…
/r/ExRedPill06/09/20 01:35 PM
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See that's where the sexism comes in because men are not on average more potentially dangerous and the ones who are do it a lot . I was in Europe a couple years ago and the culture was very different from the USA but over here your gender and your race do have a lot of connotations whether positive or negative. And yes it has a lot to do with sex / gender. Hell you just proved my point by saying that you believe men are on average more dangerous which is sexist. Maybe that's why our perspectives…
/r/ExRedPill06/09/20 12:23 PM
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Exactly these rules are enforced by everyone all at the same time and women do contribute a lot to it I got a trans friend in the only reason why he has not transitioned it's because his mom still needs him to do physical work for their business I had to chew out my cousin's fiance because she kept acting like a little princess and trying to manipulate my cousin because she's the girl and he's the boy so that means he has to bow down and cater to her right? I've been falsely accused by tiny whit…
/r/ExRedPill06/09/20 12:11 PM
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No I'm black and I know for a fact that the last 200 years oppression for Black people's did not just get handed on a silver platter so no I don't subscribe to that opinion and women's Liberation was a net good my only complaint though is that we act like men don't have problems with gender to Like really I finally realize most of my problems weren't just because I was black is because I was black and male. More people or quit to look at you as a threat or dangerous or perverted You don't know w…
/r/ExRedPill06/09/20 12:10 PM
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I don't blame all women I do blame a lot of women however because we do allow other people's to get away with s*** and we don't speak up. Literally since childhood that's all I've heard. Men are bad and men are X Y and Z and need to step up and all that s***
/r/ExRedPill06/09/20 12:02 PM
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But why do so many women seem so comfortable thrashing all men for the actions of a few. Like I was raised by mostly women and I had to hear this growing up
/r/ExRedPill06/09/20 11:58 AM
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You do the same damn thing
/r/ExRedPill06/09/20 11:57 AM
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Okay I'm sorry I didn't mean to trigger you you don't know me though. I was a feminist at one point but you wouldn't know that unless you ask instead of sending me paragraphs of ranting And why is it whenever women need Liberation we need to do it immediately but when men need Liberation people say it's going to take time?
/r/ExRedPill06/09/20 11:56 AM
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Women are the ones who lack empathy and you seem to think that men are just some stupid Meathead, who look at women while slobbering Most of the stuff you posted about how many to meet I rarely seen women do to me so just being open and I've been sick and not manipulative and not hateful
/r/ExRedPill06/09/20 11:43 AM
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Not really and I did all that way before I knew what a nice guy was a little red pill or anything because I guess that's what I was taught?
/r/ExRedPill06/09/20 11:41 AM
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And you dumb motherfukers are so judgmental and quick to judge Men have been taking care of women for generations and lifting women out of poverty and I don't live with my mother or in a basement. That proves how immature you are to make basic assumptions and pretty sexist because no one calls a woman a basement dweller but you seem very capable to call me that which proves your hypocrisy
/r/ExRedPill06/09/20 11:41 AM
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You don't know me and if you got that from that then you are sadly mistaken No one is asking for a woman to take care of a man like a parent or child and if you got that from that you are the one that is immature
/r/ExRedPill06/09/20 12:15 AM
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I did all of that and now I am single and that's why I stumbled upon the red pill you guys act like guys aren't out there trying to improve themselves and be humble with women and I tried that but that just got me called a nice guy
/r/ExRedPill06/09/20 12:14 AM
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I have yet to see any woman really show men that despite what you say
/r/ExRedPill06/09/20 12:13 AM
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So far that it isn't far from the truth because in some way or fashion it seems like a girl wants a guy who is better than her basically Therapy is not going to change that When I was looking for love I was open and authentic and ready to be treated like an equal but I have yet to find any girl ready to treat me as an equal instead of some want to make up for all her horrible exes or to cuddle her ego
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 09:29 PM
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I feel it too though it doesn't have that much of a hold on me I still find so many examples of Where The Red Pill exist and I get confirmation so many different times Almost every woman in my family has gone after some type of deadbeat and it's such a damn pattern that it's hard to ignore
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 09:00 PM
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Okay
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 02:32 PM
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Not every feminist is like that but after being around them and being one for many years you can tell when they are serious or if they're full of s*** and I've noticed that from a lot of people in this sub not all though
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 02:30 PM
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There's no already because she made the post just a f*** with me because she's been f****** with me all night
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 12:35 PM
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Go to hell
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 12:26 PM
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Why
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 12:24 PM
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How to say I wish I would have spent more time actually doing my own thing then trying to be the class clown. They give the illusion of confidence and I'm pretty sure I did too but I was way more confident when I stopped
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 06:08 AM
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I can read people perfectly fine and I can deal with conflict perfectly fine it seems like you can't
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 06:03 AM
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I actually was the class clown and I kind of regret that
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 06:01 AM
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And even if you were right dumbass where on the f** internet you don't know me from Adam
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 05:29 AM
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And for your information outside of dating I have done really well for my life and that goes to show just how knee-deep you guys are in your b***
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 05:28 AM
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Real mature and you're supposed to be helping
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 05:27 AM
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I've been calmly sitting by my phone wondering why you keep replying with short Word answers and passive aggressiveness I saw your post history on the social skills sub and I hope you find out how to mitigate conflict and how to communicate more otherwise you will have problems in the future. I may be bipolar but I don't need to go to social skills to learn how to do something basic. And stop acting like you care about me being bipolar when you reply with LOL you hypocritical snipe
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 05:10 AM
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Cite yours first
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 05:04 AM
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Thank you my point is proven I don't know what I did to trigger you but I'm sorry I guess
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 05:00 AM
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And there's also no reason why and healthy relationships women subscribe to misandric Ideas because that is way more common
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 04:56 AM
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You didn't seem too stupid enough to understand my last comment. Why do you act stupid now. That's what your type to do whenever someone calls you out you revert to acting stupid
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 04:55 AM
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You're basically telling every dude who may come to this for him to shut up and listen and whatever you say or criticisms you have a women don't matter I checked your post history and I'm done I realize that you are super dogmatic and you're one of those types of feminist who is deep into b******* that you aren't even a feminist anymore. You just want to be right and men are easy targets for you The way you write your paragraphs in the way you respond and how you choose your words remind me too …
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 04:53 AM
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You are so brainwashed and dogmatic that anybody who calls you out on your b you somehow think is confusing or stupid when you yourself are so wrapped up in your b you can't allow yourself to think for yourself
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 04:51 AM
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I wish more women willing to act instead of acting like clay with no agency. That's what I meant
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 04:43 AM
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so basically what you're saying is shut the hell up and just accept that you can't read minds but don't ever ever judge the other parties actions or intentions It seems like your more focused on letting somebody know how wrong they are then actually listening and helping . some times it is 100% that other person's fault If a man gets shot tommorow, let's say he's walking down the street. Hes minding his own business etc and then BOOM. Hes dead. That's all on the murderer The murderer is the one …
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 04:42 AM
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now you're projecting because I didn't even say any of that
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 04:26 AM
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You said I should visit forums with girls asking for advice and I do and I feel bad for them because so many of their fears can be solved if they just open up
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 04:18 AM
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I do frequent those threads and subreddits because I am interested in it. And it does break my heart because I see some of those girls asking for advice and sometimes I want to tell them that most of their where he's really don't mean anything if they just tell the guy yet I also know not every guy is nice or decent There was some subreddit I replied to but basically he was a virgin girl and she was feeling down because she was worried that her virginity would be a turn-off but I as a guy straig…
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 03:47 AM
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I get that and I'm trying to work on that in my real life as I am a retail manager and my cashier decided not to come in today but I don't Harbor any bad feelings because stuff happens let me ask you this I fancy myself in the intellectual and I'm pretty sure you are too because I've always been interested in gender Dynamics as well Even when I was a kid I always wondered why the girl always needed the guy to somehow chase her down even when the girl was showing obvious signs that she liked him.…
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 03:41 AM
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Most of dating advice always seems to adhere to that the guy is supposed to X Y and Z. A lot of dudes try so many different variations of advice and strategies and I am included in that and of course we may look stupid / creepy / unattractive in the process but that's only when we interact with the girl Instead of saying that you need to improve on this that or the other why can't we just say meet each other halfway The girl also has agency and there's no reason why she should not try to at leas…
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 03:26 AM
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You are right I could have been more assertive with some girls get at the same time these girls could have been more clear on their communication of what they wanted Like if you want your guy to do something or imply something give him some hints or even say it but don't get mad at him when you do something completely opposite and he acts accordingly I know a girl who was crushing on some dude hard and you could tell they both like each other yet if that girl just said something they could have …
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 03:21 AM
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You're right my point is Most of dating isn't some magic science of course, but it's also not some one and done thing like if you have a bunch of confidence then it's easy or normal. what I have experienced is that it's a lot of misdirection and miscommunication and guess work I do think it's unfair on both parties to take up blame as if they're doing some weird and crazy thing yet it's what we do when we don't have all the information I used to cold approach when I was younger and I cringe at t…
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 03:16 AM
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You say it like it's some Grand lesson that most guys don't learn Of course I understand that but even more so throughout the little experience that I do have I'm starting to learn just how crazy it is to match up to someone else's standards and even if you do how to conduct yourself to attract them and I think that is universally a guy thing I happen to know this girl a lot( the one I gave a Valentine's Day gift to) and looking back I shouldn't have tried to get at her as this is the same girl …
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 03:07 AM
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I think everybody has a lot of crazy, corny or retarded s*** they did to try to attract the opposite sex I bought this girl a Valentine's Day gift on Valentine's Day that I like because it worked for an ex of mine She took it but that was it and that was stupid because I assumed what worked on one girl would work on another. To her I bet I look needy and desperate even though I was trying to be spontaneous and surprising but I was 17 and in high school and yes I do cringe it that every single ti…
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 02:44 AM
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We are not what we attract and I'm not going to take away from what your therapist said but I can't believe that. I see totally mismatched couples all the time Nice women with abusive men and vice versa I knew an amazing girl in high school and if you knew this girl you can tell that if she put her mind to it she could have been anything she wanted to. She ended up dating some gang banger who later killed someone. This was a nice athletic preppy girl and out of all the options she had she chose …
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 02:12 AM
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Okay whatever cliche advice most people give I have done it in some shape or form over the years from the ages of 14 all the way up to now and I have yet to find anything that I can call something concrete that will help me Yes I get compliments here in there and I have been getting hit on but I would like to know I would like to have some certainty Of course there was some stupid or immature stuff I did in the past but damn it seems like things that are completely innocent or don't matter at al…
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 02:10 AM
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That's on u I have. I used to work out, lead clubs, give speeches. Etc.
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 01:45 AM
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And why is it on the guy to do any and everything that why is it always the guy's fault even when the woman is in the wrong or when the woman doesn't communicate or when the woman holds her feelings back.
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 01:32 AM
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I'm not a nice guy and I don't believe in the whole nice guy thing because there are girls out there who do respect that and I am a nice guy and I mean that unsarcastically and I do mean that genuinely I will admit some girls I've went after did not match But I was trying to be open and friendly but compatibility is important
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 01:31 AM
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I agree yet I'm trying to figure out what went wrong because that was my first relationship and even though I know what you say is right that does not take away the shame the guilt or the embarrassment or the rage. She made me wait and then ended up cheating on me and then later on made fun of me for being a virgin. We were both virgins yet that was not good enough for her and now I'm left with nothing
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 01:30 AM
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There is no point being missed what I'm telling you is that guys who would go to the red pill have already done the things you have said above I was confident I was wrong and I liked myself but that did not stop me from getting cheated on or made fun of so I went to the red pill because I keep wondering why despite being such a good catch as so many girls have said I keep ending up alone
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 01:16 AM
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How is this any different from what the red pill says or any other thing and the reason why I even dabbled into it was because I did all of this stuff you mentioned above and I still end up being cut short I know you guys are trying to help but it's like a triple slap in the face when you keep rehashing the same advice there's so many guys are already taking already and still end up with nothing
/r/ExRedPill05/09/20 12:59 AM
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I'm not trying to defend redpill stuff I'm only trying to explain it as another man who is frustrated with modern dating Girls judge men very harshly on a lot of different things and that does include sexual performance and I think a lot of guys logic goes if I'm going to get made fun of for look down on anyway I might as well just have my fun Girls are able to move on very quickly and find new opportunities for love and sex much much more quickly than the average man and I think that's why God …
/r/ExRedPill04/09/20 09:01 PM
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And that's why I never feel fully immerse myself into the red pill because I grew up around these type of girls and these girls are not worth it
/r/ExRedPill04/09/20 08:28 PM
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Go get a f** job or an activity you act like a self-righteous hypocrite and then act stupid when someone calls you out f*** you
/r/ExRedPill04/09/20 02:18 AM
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You just proved mine
/r/ExRedPill04/09/20 12:48 AM
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Yes I do and please if you think you are trying to help him criticize you are vaguely mistaken
/r/ExRedPill04/09/20 12:40 AM
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You think you'll leave supportive comments and that's my point Bullies always think they're doing good when they're really doing bad
/r/ExRedPill04/09/20 12:15 AM
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You don't seem to show it judging by your last comment You sound stupid
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 11:52 PM
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No I don't laugh at absurd ideas because I'm not an a** like you and is he wrong in thinking that his height will be used against them? I'm a pretty tall dude at over six foot and I know firsthand how shorter people are treated. Held the only reason why I survived this long is because I'm tall so I had that extra benefit would you act like a Solas bully because you act like these things don't hurt people get I bet you subscribe yourself to feminism in other things like that which preach equality…
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 11:45 PM
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You basically just told this dude who gave you his lived experience about being short that you guys are laughing at him not because he's short but because he thinks being short matters which is textbook bullying
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 11:27 PM
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You shouldn't be laughing at anybody why do you guys normalize bullying people when they don't agree with you
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 08:53 PM
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It shouldn't matter what the reason why he's crying or not he shouldn't be made to feel any different because of it
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 08:43 PM
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That sounds like being willfully ignorant I get what you're saying I really do but I can't I've been hurt too many times and just took it and I'll never be able to get those years back
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/20 08:33 PM
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You guys try so hard to make the red pill seem like it's some crazy weird thing with the reason why so many guys are going to it is because we were the guys that wear blue pilled There's so much s*** I did I get so many crazy things in so many different things trying to figure out what's attractive to women and now I'm at the point where that's all I've done and I'm tired
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 08:32 PM
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The same could be said about blue pill stuff in feminism
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 08:11 PM
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I do and I have been in therapy and I just don't see how they can fix my problem because it's a worldly problem Forget dating success or even like emotional success it makes me burn to be forced to walk around bearing the burden of the world on my shoulders because I am a man and I know for a fact that my female counterpart will not have the same responsibilities and that is not fair. Once you intellectually know it you can't turn it off
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/20 07:38 PM
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How can you just go to therapy and come back out in the real world and just to Live While accepting this type of thing
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/20 06:36 PM
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I don't fit in anywhere. And a few places I had to fit into I had to fight for. You say I'm trying to take the easy way and use it large brush strokes but that's what people have been doing to me since the beginning I don't have anxiety but I do have bipolar disorder
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 06:23 PM
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What constitutes social skills with women because I do find it telling that you have to talk to women of specific way and not just regularly like men Do you mean social skills as in the traditional way that man used to court women? That still is very much here despite it being 20-20
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 06:21 PM
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Not from what I've seen. You were the women in my own family A place regret I'm wasting their years on essentially bad Boys. And the men seem to fare better just by The Virtue that they've had time to build up wealth which is attractive I'm a man in my twenties and I'm still struggling and I found the reasons why are simply due to the fact that I have yet to build up resources for myself and that takes time.
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 05:23 PM
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You yourself just gave me some weird stereotypical caricature of a man just doing step one two and three acting nice and then getting laid which is toxic Behavior which I'm pretty sure you hate. I'm telling you that way is toxic and I have been in a situation where I have confronted this type of situation and yet you continue to blast me
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 05:21 PM
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I agree with you are saying and a situation does sucks and I hate that I was in a position yet you see my point. I got socially penalized for doing the right thing and you continue to mischaracterize me You're not saying anything I already don't know and I didn't expect it to be rewarded for it but it wasn't just do to make fun of me it was other girls I'm not praising the dude I do find it crazy however because if you met him you would probably say he would be attracted to women despite not kno…
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 05:19 PM
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It doesn't feel like it. So many girls have so many crazy standards yes sometimes I know even their standards don't matter but at the same time it's like I'm not sure where I fit because there's so many different standards for different girls. Right now I am well traveled and educated but I don't have any of the material things like a house or car or degree to show it despite me putting in the work and passion. Both of my exes went after older men and yes I know that's not every girl but that's …
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 05:14 PM
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Whichever one makes me feel secure and happy and not feeling like I have a secret enemy on my team That night cashier maybe the smartest the most pathetic girl on the planet and that basically successful manager could be super neurotic and absolutely void of any passion Success means different things for different people right now I'm a retail manager and I count that as a success but not as my own personal one But the difference is is that it takes years for a man to build up his wealth and sta…
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 05:11 PM
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I get what you're saying what I mean is that I now can't identify behaviors in men and women who do this type of damage and I hate them with a burning passion and every time they walk around drawing breath makes me want to die Every time we just allow them to do what they want is another day that they think they can do what they want That includes the MRIs in the feminist as both can be bullies and ignorant but that's only because we allow them to I am going to heed your advice and I am trying t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/20 05:06 PM
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Maybe it's because I have morals I have a friend that I could have hooked up with but she was drunk. Everything in my head told me that it was wrong to take advantage of her so I didn't but guess what happened the next day She ended up messing around with a friend of mine and I was clowned on by our peers because I supposedly didn't want to smash the supposed 10 out of 10 even though she was my friend and she was drunk off her rocker I was respectful of her and myself and I didn't want to impose…
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 05:01 PM
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And you think you have self-awareness
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 04:38 PM
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And that right there proves my point.
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 03:56 PM
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I know tone is hard to convey online but I'm still wondering how you think I was upset I'm not sure because a lot of people still hold women with kid gloves so I really don't know if I believe you when you say that all I know it is very easy to tell a man to man up or shut up or move on.
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 03:55 PM
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Part of me is scared of that because if I do become financially successful in stable and that attracts women I'm probably going to hate her because that's going to prove literally everything I thought was wrong to be right To think that I can still be me and still be great in my personality yet not have any funds and that be a deal-breaker it's just ridiculous to me
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 01:29 PM
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No I wasn't
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 01:29 PM
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I was the guy so many girls say they wanted for years I had almost every bullet point and personality trait down to a tee yet I was still the guy that got cheated on lied on manipulated and made fun of At least the red pill will be honest about this because so far a lot of things seem to be true especially has do why some women act the way they do At this moment it will take me a couple of more years to finally be dateable because I have yet to have Financial Security or anything else to offer a…
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 12:32 PM
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Why do you act like such an asshole.
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 12:28 PM
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So I'm just supposed to walk around and act ignorant and fake right? Like this shitt doesn't hurt. Being a man is Hell on Earth
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/20 12:28 PM
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They were catered since elementary school so of course they would not change when they got older I don't want to list any more examples because at this point it doesn't matter but my point is a lot of feminists are fake just straight-up fake
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 12:14 PM
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Yes it is but you choose to act like an idiot Feminists do not treat people with gender equality because they still hate men
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 05:10 AM
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When I've been giving the same runaround since I was a teenager and I have put in work but I never thought all of that would entitle or even guarantee me a relationship but it's almost like throwing Salt in My Wounds when you say it will take awhile It has been a while yet at the same time I am not entitled to it. That does not discount all of my hard work and if it's true that women are attracted to that I guess it does show as well yet at the same time I don't like that. No man can be the Supe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/20 04:14 AM
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I'm six foot six and about 230 lb and that can be attractive and it can also be a curse because I have thrown off a lot of girls because they expect my personality to match my body Something that has been really telling as I can get attention but it does scare me because I feel like I will disappoint a girl I'm into because she'll be thinking I'm one way when I'm really the other Not every girl is like this but it has been my experience. Your boyfriend is really lucky to have found you because t…
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 01:53 AM
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I have been single but I have had flings and put it around albeit I'm still a virgin but I still have social skills and stuff and I would agree that just how shity both men and women could be with their standards Like no man or woman or even in college should have any crazy stand up just for the fact that you're still a fresh adult and is crazy to expect that you should have all your s*** together around this age but everyone acts like it
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 12:32 AM
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I have gone through so many stages of self-improvement that the only thing separating me and your boyfriend or husband is just the fact that he found someone I keep wondering when is that day going to come when I'm going to find a compatible girl because I keep wondering what is so wrong with me that it's so hard for me despite having all these great qualities
/r/ExRedPill02/09/20 11:40 PM
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Sorry I've been feeling down in the dumps especially since the quarantine started I'm will be 24 next year and I have a lot of experience as a lot of people share except for the intimacy part And that's what I've been trying to correct for the past like six years I live clubs and I went to clubs and I went to parties and I was very social but trying to get a girl just hasn't came my way
/r/ExRedPill02/09/20 11:22 PM
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Some like-minded people in this Sub in others I must have this dogmatic stance to where if a man says he's tried X Y or Z so many people just won't believe it or say that he didn't work hard enough I'm not saying you personally but it is a sentiment that does come up
/r/ExRedPill02/09/20 11:08 PM
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Said what?
/r/ExRedPill02/09/20 10:30 PM
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I can inhabit dealing with it but do not give platitudes and useless advice like in prove yourself when people already do that and now you yourself have admitted that there's no guarantee I'm telling you I have so many examples of self-improvement and things that are considered attractive yet I'm still single and I've been working on these things for years You're not giving any lectures here get you think you are and that's a constant with this sub whenever someone calls out your guys b******* a…
/r/ExRedPill02/09/20 10:11 PM
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You hit the nail on the head and that's what I'm arguing with the people at exredpill about right now and they refuse to f****** believe it The fact that she can punch you and you fight back and she ends off being free and you getting in trouble is f****** proof
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/20 10:09 PM
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I do or at least I think I do but I'm finding that a lot of people mean they need material things and not the actual work that went into it I work two jobs One Summer to try to pay for a car and it didn't start so not only did I not have the car I also did not have another thing that would make me more attractive but it's not the car itself right it's the hard work I have so many examples in my life especially without needing to scream it out of me overcoming challenges and improving and yet I a…
/r/ExRedPill02/09/20 10:07 PM
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I doubt that
/r/ExRedPill02/09/20 09:54 PM
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What point. It proves nothing
/r/ExRedPill02/09/20 09:54 PM
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Then that's it then. I cant convince you.
/r/ExRedPill02/09/20 09:52 PM
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Duh now imagine how many other girls are just like that that I had no defenses against because in my head and in my upbringing you couldn't criticize or chastise another girl because women are wonderful and girls are so filled with everything special and sugar and spice and everything nice. She was a straight-up abuser but if the genders were reversed you wouldn't tell that girl to just move on with her life but because I'm a man, it is the first go to things you say to me
/r/ExRedPill02/09/20 09:50 PM
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I've been hit on I've been felt on I've been twerked on I've been cat called before and I have flirted with Girls before and I have had two girlfriends. I'm confident in that aspect but what does trip me up is girls expectations Me and my last girlfriend broke up just because she had so many f*****-up expectations on what a man is supposed to be and she's not the only girl who thinks like that
/r/ExRedPill02/09/20 09:49 PM
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Well if I take one way and it doesn't work then try another way and it doesn't work and try another way and it doesn't work I'm good I guess that must advise probably isn't going to work Especially if I can say that I kept taking you guys of advice and it has not worked
/r/ExRedPill02/09/20 09:47 PM
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It is ironic. So many girls say they hate nice guys but they keep saying that's the type of guy they want then a cycle goes on and on Recently one girl rejected me because I was younger than her..... now she wants me because she's been knocked up by another dude My ex-girlfriend has literally been through a string of abusers and always said that I was a type of guy she really wanted to be with yet she keeps going for the opposite as in the men who are willing to mistreat her and this is coming f…
/r/ExRedPill02/09/20 09:16 PM
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I was a feminist for a long time until I realized just how much Society harms men and boys and that include women Most of those girls on the college campuses are not feminists because if they were they would free every man and woman the same but they don't
/r/ExRedPill02/09/20 09:15 PM
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That's my point most of these people have not grown up their only using the label because it's trendy most famous I know really are not feminists.
/r/ExRedPill02/09/20 09:05 PM
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So many people today think they are feminists but if you look at how they were and how they still act you can tell that this just something they call themselves and they do not practice what they preach
/r/ExRedPill02/09/20 09:05 PM
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It is an illusion is what I'm trying to say I worked out last night something you did not know but in your head that should be perfectly manly I have so many examples and details of where I have done masculine things are even things most people older than me have not done yet I am not treated any better or worse And you didn't answer the question what makes you think men are not already trying to improve because I've been trying to improve since puberty and I'm 23 now so that's about 7 years at …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/20 09:04 PM
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This is what other women have said to leave yet they say it and then go for the opposite
/r/ExRedPill02/09/20 09:03 PM
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Just think about how many girls who fancy themselves for equality who may or may not have made a voice like hell because they also joined in on the making fun of and the bullying I know so many girls who f*** with me in elementary school who tout themselves as feminist today and it's fucking bullshit They're only feminists want to get favors them or other women but never went to society needs to start treating boys with the same fashion but that won't happen because for that to happen a lot of g…
/r/ExRedPill02/09/20 08:34 PM
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Of course but you see how it is become a standard that we tell to a lot of guys. And sometimes it's not healthy as I do prefer a woman to ask me out but if I had tried a little harder to ask out women I probably would have had a girlfriend when I was younger but the combination of fear standards and which may be surprising to you my own self-respect has led me to this path For years I was the positive masculine friend who is very chill in Social yet very in tune with my emotions and I do think I…
/r/ExRedPill02/09/20 08:17 PM
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Yes most women do not look at men and people because if they did most men would not have the problems they have People start boys off as children programming them There was something to eat but I think we're going to need you more by doing less people talk treating little boys and girls at the same into a boy's little bit more harshly because voice are still considered to be little Men and they have to be policed and controlled Little girls are taught did they are special and Gentile and fragile…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/20 08:13 PM
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And it must be nice for women to want emotionally stable men yet almost every girl I have interacted with has had daddy issues
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/20 08:03 PM
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And what I'm telling you is manhood is not philosophical or psychological. You see it is whining because you see it as whining If the same thing would being black or white or trans or anything it's all social and has really nothing to do with psychologically unless it happens to harm you I'm a retail manager and I have led people in clubs since I was in high school so does that give me points on demand in the scale in your eyes? And that's a rhetorical question as it should not matter because th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/20 08:02 PM
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Being able to go through so many stages of your life with potential romantic outcomes especially if you only have to show up as such a Monumental privilege most people will not especially if they're average men. And it's so easy for women to punish all men for the misgivings of the few top 20% that they worship which is exactly what we've all gotten All those girls asking for men the freaking better they're not talking to normal men there talking to the ones who were super alpha or at the top ti…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/20 07:39 PM
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I've always had my own Hobbies as I am a comic book artist but even my hobbies and interests aren't masking the anger I feel just because of how many years I put up with it Help people are only now just starting to respect me with my heart but when I was a kid I got made fun of because men like me were only supposed to do Sports and if I was into freely in colorful stuff like drawing I must have been gay or weird? I got this from men but it hurts more when it comes from women because they have n…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/20 07:37 PM
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I would say the red pill hasn't really cause me to not look at my thoughts but it has caused me to realize just how many faults women have that I even have overlooked because I like the girl or was trying to get her to like me So basically not all women are like that but way too many and that's why I went to the Redpill because I found way too many girls disrespecting me especially when I gave them respect back What makes you think any other type of dating advice or knowledge is also mostly b***…
/r/ExRedPill02/09/20 07:20 PM
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Even I as a black man recognize I am privileged over a white men with disabilities and of course other factors as well. But even those come with drawbacks ass a lot of people look at black dude is super masculine and more physically capable which is not true. Like right now I'm at my job and I work in retail and if I had a nickel for every time someone walked up to me and said "Wow son! You must play ball!" And I get that from white and black alike
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/20 05:45 PM
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Also. I was that guy you are describing. For years. I'm still waiting when I will reward for my great safrices.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/20 03:25 PM
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