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I treat my friends to a meal from time to time and I don’t feel “Used” In most cases a first date isn't a friend. So there isn't the benefit of friendship at play here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 12:06 AM
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versus the woman that is giving of herself, the only body she will “Own” for the rest of her life. Women put themselves at risk, arguably more risk when they choose to have sex with a man, personal safety, risk of pregnancy, this is a red herring because this is true for any sexual encounter, whether its with a man she loves or not, her husband, a hookup, etc. So many cases of men beating their wives after sex, or domestic violence in connection to sex. Also we are only talking about a situation…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 12:05 AM
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If the sex had actually been good he'd have come back for more. They went 3 times though in one night. That's a lot for the first time you are with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 12:02 AM
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No you're wrong women can sense men's misogyny No where in this post is anything about misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 12:01 AM
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Nope , but did spend $130 once . SF can be expensive for a dinner
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 08:19 PM
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Agreed there
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 07:29 PM
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Well that’s exactly how a lot of startup investing works . This is from what I have seen here in Silicon Valley . Think of theranos. Holmes was lauded as the woman of our times , a medical hero , with life changing technology . But once she was exposed , she was the butt of every joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 07:29 PM
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It’s something both parties want but women tie it to gaining a relationship more than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 07:27 PM
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How is it not equivalent ? Both women and men were let down in expectations .
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 07:24 PM
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How is dating not a game in 2023 ? With so much online dating , ghosting , flaking , etc , you have to know someone before you can say a connection is genuine . So why would someone not take the cautious route of not investing a lot in someone at first ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 07:22 PM
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But the value here is emotional . Like if I spent 1.5 hours on a date that didn’t turn out well , that won’t feel nearly as bad as spending say $300 on an fancy outing for the evening and getting ghosted .
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 07:08 PM
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about their personality/how they carry themselves just doesn't make your mind go that way. What would be an example of this to you ? For myself, I can think of a physically attractive woman who's a surgeon or an AI startup founder. Instant turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 06:54 AM
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need chemistry before having sex with a guy What does this mean ? To me chemistry is the physical desire and lust for one another. If you kiss a woman and she puts her hand on the back of your head and locks you in, that's chemistry. So I don't get what does before sex mean ? like minutes before?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 06:52 AM
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neo-nazi pedophiles In general I have never seen women change their dating preferences based on identity politics or identity based morals. Whether libido is high or low, attraction isn't negotiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 06:48 AM
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Disagree, women lack a feeling of chemistry with men who they find attractive all the time. See for men, lust is very tied toward the visuals. Men see the tits and the ass and he's ready. Women need the spark to burn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 06:45 AM
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Sweet mother of, do you live in California or New York? I’m in Michigan and average is 30,723 a year. bruh less than 104k in my city (SF) is low income, 30k would be way below poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:43 PM
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are not women you want to give any thought to. What if she has huge tits or a huge ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:41 PM
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In addition to chronic unemployment for the past 5 years, his anger issues have persisted, he's developed a serious hoarding problem, he lashes out at me daily/verbally bites my head off daily, etc. And in addition to expecting me to bring home all the bacon, also expects me to do all the household chores/responsibilities/mental load/all adulting. Sorry have to ask, does this affect your sex / romance life ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:40 PM
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I look up to a man more if he out-earns me THIS . I really applaud you for being honest about this. So many women try to delude themselves otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:39 PM
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contributes to the wellbeing of society Are you referring to a social worker ? Or does a software engineer still help society?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:35 PM
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So yes, I would date any man regardless of his job. what about unemployed?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 07:25 PM
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Not only are there absolutely factories in Silicon Valley, No there are not. Elon moved tesla to texas. Amazon warehouse isn't a factory and they pee in bottles instead of taking breaks
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 07:11 PM
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Yea but out here in silicon valley there's not really factories, it's just cute cafes or restaurants for tech workers to sit with their laptop at.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:17 PM
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working class and blue collar refers to? Starbucks barista, walmart cashier, safeway deli person.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 05:53 PM
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almost every factory in my area pays double or more than the service jobs you listed off. Oh i linked to a target foode service worker. In the USA, typically this means people who stock shelves in grocery stores, it doesn't apply to manufacturing. no trade 26 an hour with pension and 20 dollar a week insurance. Wow this is fascinating. In my area there's no factories and everything is minimum wage here for stores and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 05:45 PM
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Do a favor and join the passport bros. Agreed, but to be fair passport bro-ing is a form of self improvement. You improve your location, your business skills, your knowledge, your earning potential etc. It's a whole life process of transofrmation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 05:04 PM
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Probably not. Only because I wouldn't even know where to meet a bus driver or a medical assistant. I'm confused, do you not go to the doctor or ride buses ? Like there's working class people in every starbucks, restaurant, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 04:57 PM
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yes, if he was in school and that was his part time job. no, if that was just his job and he had no plans to better his position You have to assume this is his primary profession or goal in life. For the purposes of this discussion. He wants to be a food service person for 30 years on $21k a year
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 04:56 PM
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oyster fisherman But is that working class ? Since oysters in restaurants are usually expensive. It seems to be like a trade skill or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 04:54 PM
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A rich man will Mary the McDonald’s cashier if she’s cute and has the wifey properties they’re looking for. But you never see the reverse. A rich celebrity woman marrying like a super buff poor guy from the hood.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 04:30 PM
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I haven’t heard of the opposite where they’re fine with a man who makes less or nothing even. Typically the fine with less part is still a similar level profession / salary. I have even heard this mentioned by a olastic surgeon woman and her neurologist husband (referring to the husband having a lower paying job).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 04:07 PM
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lowers my vacation money. I mean is that a huge deal to you ? What about a college fund for the kids ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 04:04 PM
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This is borked, the modern woman isn't the only fans star, that's really the traditional woman. Modern woman are more the business / science heavy types that feminism promotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 03:00 PM
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She's gonna need a chair to be able to kiss you. You want that? One of the hottest moves you can do as a guy is lift a girl , put her on the kitchen counter and kiss her there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 02:14 PM
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They tell y’all what they think y’all want to hear. Pick me’s looking for a green card Passport bro doesn't come back to the USA. They stay there. Mean while by 2030 45% of young women will be single , so the bros are winning here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 03:13 AM
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OP, the challenge i have for you is how does a man know a woman is worth committing to/ a dinner date without knowing her better first ? Like not sure if you are in the bay area, but I am, and a nice dinner for two people ? That's at least $80 or $90. Thinking of an appetizer, two meals, and two drinks. possibly $100 if its a nice place. If I am not sure I have chemistry with the woman, why does it make sense to do this ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 02:48 AM
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you're a high earning woman It's good to keep in mind in silicon valley "high earner" is usually not high for the area but high earner nationally. $100k or $120k doesn't mean much here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 02:45 AM

am, you could’ve saved your money and took a trip to Vegas if you wanted to smash prostitutes for a week straight. You do realize the women in vegas are usually over 45 and over weight and charge possibly 10x as much as thin, hot women do in other countries? Like some of the bunny ranches in nevada go into the 5 figure digits for the weekend. they pay to play for some of the most used and abused women in the world Sigh, this has already been proved wrong by Filipina women on youtube. https://www…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:58 AM
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But they would need to satisfy the beauty standards there . Another woman here commented on this too. So it’s possible but not if she’s close to the 50% of women over 170 pounds in the USA
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:37 AM
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I don’t know , can you elaborate ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:15 AM
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There’s countries for each type of woman a passport bro wants . There’s Columbia or Costa Rica for latinas , there’s Poland and Eastern Europe for white women. As far as power dynamic goes it’s more about other men then women. Being taller and richer than other men is a major plus in dating for a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:04 AM
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Yes but those men are too poor for relationships with western women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:58 PM
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Heights for either gender and place are a distribution . What’s considered short and tall differs from place to place . 6 feet is much taller in a place where women are on average 5’2” vs when women are on average 5’5”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 10:46 PM
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It's funny that you think Caribbean and African countries would be taller than Western countries. I meant more bigger penises. I read somewhere the average jamaican penis is one full inch on average bigger than the usa.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:54 PM
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Western women to compete in East Asia. I can't speak for South Korea, but in Japan at least, talking about "average" means "slim and kinda cute". Beauty standards are generally considerably higher for women in East Asia. Definitely. It's harder for a western women to get both asian guys or western guys in asia. It's possible though if she's of a great weight and attractive, but there's no advantages.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:26 PM
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What would you tell a woman like me: good weight for height, pretty enough face, willing to be First Mate to my man's Captain? You are doing everything right then. On top of that if you are resourceful or shop at asian grocery stores sometimes, I would say you bring a lot to the table in a country like the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:19 PM
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in the environment where we’ve laid a fuck ton of groundwork for you to survive and be able to learn these skills. Well if you are talking only about independence and dependence and not value then i agree with you. For a moment though you sounded like the anarchists club people from my college.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:17 PM
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This would be like a guy going to Thailand and complaining that “even though I banged a dozen 9’s an 10’s, I had to fend off a bunch of ladyboys in the process” ohhh ok i see what you are saying, it's like women are a college and men are the college applicants. Even if most do not qualify like for top schools, the school still chooses very high ranked students. Agreed, view changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 08:49 PM
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Fair point. Now that you mention it, an astounding number of younger women (18-30) vacations are in france at least on what i follow on instagram. Not even like the UK or italy. Definitely fishy.....
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 08:44 PM
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the only reason why some skinny guy wearing glasses enjoys his best life in Silicon Valley is because some people somewhere contribute their labor to sustain the frame of stability around him. He doesn’t build his own house, he doesn’t build his own car, he doesn’t grow his own fucking chickens in the back yard. Sorry but this is communist propaganda. I do work that supports the cyber security and business intelligence of thousands of customers across the globe including all the big banks, huge …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 08:42 PM
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I’ve known so many women who did “semesters abroad” in university. And suspiciously they all do it in France. These women are getting their backs blown out all semester. I do see lots of women visiting france but is it for the men or just the culture and food ? I haven't seen women posting pictures with men on social media at least. But I also have never been to france.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 08:36 PM
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oh really ? wow. Where are you seeing this ? social media ? If this is true you might have my view changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 08:35 PM
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Women don’t like the “sub-par” men available in their immediate vicinity, they hop on OLD and can suddenly access men of far higher SMV and RMV without leaving their couch. But do women actually find an advantage in OLD? What most describe it as is a situation where all the matches are subpar guys or they send dick pics of an average sized dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 08:34 PM
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You are comparing philosophical ideas to rights, which is disingenuous at best. Thai women are also more likely to face violence than western women Thats from Thai men, not western men. On youtube there's videos of men in china beating up their wives in public and no one does anything. A passport bro dating women in these countries is the moral decision because he is providing for them and giving them proper treatment, more money than they could earn locally, or better treatment than local men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 08:31 PM
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man’s never heard of american women going to europe to find a husband lmfao I listed that some destinations in Europe like the netherlands or sweden are good options. But how many women can go abroad to sweden or the netherlands ? It's harder to immigrate to similar income countries than it is to lower income countries. having more rights and being more independent is “let’s go to a place in the world where women are second class citizens” In most countries passport bros go to , those countries …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 08:02 PM
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A lot of patterns of people traveling for education generally are done to achieve or look for greater financial success or to higher institutions of educations. Thus, the woman is entering a place where the men are more educated, higher earning, or more liberal than her background. So naturally, women are more likely to date and be more fond of men abroad. Or in short, Chinese people love Jews. They believe all the stereotypes as super positive attributes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:59 PM
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Are you going from a western country to another western country ? Or from the non-western world to a western country?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:56 PM
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create hate speech canpaigns against North American women to do it. Hate speech ? So talking about sociological and medical data about weight and obesity or single status is hate speech ? Look, by 2030, 45% of women between 25-40 will be single. And thats primarily because of the pattern women are going in. Us bros just trying to help guide women better, thats all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:44 PM
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south korea this fall and i wouldn’t be opposed to finding my future husband there 🤭 ooooooh good point i forgot about korea. Yea that would qualify as a passport sister situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:39 PM
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anybody that studied abroad is a slut I don't like the term slut, but I think the idea is definitely true. Most of the women I was with in college or grad school were international students from China .
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:37 PM
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For a relationship, women cannot leave the USA or western world because men become either hotter and poorer, or richer and shorter, or some bad combination. Mean while when i go to taiwan , china, thailand, or other asian countries, i get taller, the women get skinnier, and i get much richer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:36 PM
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Yes, no women in the history of the universe has gone to other countries and had sex with a local man while she is there. Read my post please. We are talking about advantages for relationships . Most of the destinations women choose for sex have poorer men, much poorer than the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:35 PM
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After that point, money has diminishing returns for the majority of women. But for the men or the women ? for the man i agree completely. But for the woman more money would always be better. Women in America already have 10x the matches as the men, they can get that anywhere. They don't need more matches. But they wouldn't sleep with more than 1% of those matches. Mean while the matches I get would all be satisfying for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:33 PM
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and women in New York are much skinnier than women in Kentucky. You have confirmation bias here, the data shows otherwise More than half (57%) of the adults in New York City are overweight or obese, and 27.3% of adults reported no regular physical activity in the past 30 days. Further, approximately 39% of New York City Public School children in kindergarten through eighth grade are overweight or obese, compared to 35.5% of children aged 6-11 nationally. https://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dch/programs/…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:29 PM
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The average American woman of 20 years of age and up weighs 170.8 pounds (lbs)Trusted Source and stands at 63.5 inches (in), which is almost 5 feet (ft), 4 in tall. https://www.healthline.com/health/womens-health/average-weight-for-women#:~:text=The%20average%20American%20woman%20of,not%20be%20surprising%20to%20you. There ya go
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:23 PM
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want to What do you mean ? Women definitely want a richer man. That's a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:22 PM
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Likes to travel apparently means likes to have sex with random men???? If she likes to take "all girls" trips or solo trips, definitely yes. If she is traveling more to places like China or India for cultural experiences, then no.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:21 PM
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Yup, which America has in spades. If that's all women wanted, the men wouldn't be leaving. Can you clarify what you mean here ? Are you saying that women want a whole lot more than money? I'm not sure what you mean by this? In my shoes, (and i did a post on this once), i get 10X the amount of tinder matches in Singapore and Taiwan, that I do in the USA. But comparatively, where can women get a major advantage that they do not have at home like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:19 PM
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Women don't care about passport bros. They do, trust me. At least in the USA. just look at youtube.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:15 PM
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I’m a skinny blond young Eastern European in the West, what are you going to tell me OP, In that case you are more attractive than 96% of women in the USA. The average woman here is over 170 pounds. Also most dunk on western women is NOT similar to ones like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:14 PM
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the women that want nothing to do with them at home and wish they would leave them alone, This is false. Women in the usa on average are over 170 pounds and don't want to do much thats feminine on average. Men who passport bro aren't chasing women locally
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:12 PM
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Your wrong in your assumption that women are only looking for taller richer men as well. American women don't need rich men, that's been established, which is why these men with money end up having to go abroad. For a relationship women only date men who earn at least as much as they do. That's well established. Women are looking for excitement and fun, something in ample supply when on vacation, largely due to her circumstances, being freed from her responsibilities. Yes but whether or not they…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 06:52 PM
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flights to Italy and Spain looking for hot men to date. As of 2021 italy has half the gdp per capita as the USA. and increasing language requirements for italian to live there i think.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 06:37 PM
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Sex tourism isn't the same as passport bros. Passport bros is a longer term engagement more looking for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 06:36 PM
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in person than in pictures a lot of the time, meaning that it doesn't look as fake if you don't know the signs I agree. I think Lauren is hot personally, but this sub tends to generally not like plastic surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 06:28 PM
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has work done, you realize that right? Of course. Thats the point. I just referenced this other one because it's less of the bimbo look than Lauren.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 06:02 PM
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waiting to have sex with a particular guy while you are currently having hookups But is it actually waiting or has she simply not been turned on by this particular man yet compared to other men ? See this is why these discussions generally go no where because no one specifies the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:23 PM
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So, since there is nothing some women can do to become truly beautiful 9+/10s (especially after a certain age), That's not really true. There's botox, fillers, cool sculpting, bbl, breast implants, lasers, all kinds of different therapies at different price levels. For MacKenzie, doing nothing for appearance is very rare. Even at my level (high earning software engineer around SF), women once they hit close to 30 are doing botox , lasers, etc. it sounds like your real recommendation should actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:12 PM
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someone goes on a whine about how men don't want women who are ''fake'', ''plastic'' or wear too much makeup, and how men want natural women. Well when you talk about men becoming more wealthy and higher status, men definitely want women who are working on improving their looks and appearance. maybe a more relatable example is this billionaire couple https://cdn.thedesigninspiration.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2019/11/image5.jpg The woman doesn't look fake, but her skin on her face is superb,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:07 PM
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she must have WILD bedroom game. This
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 04:38 PM
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You seriously think she can't get someone to date her for 70 billion USD? Well going down the list of billionaires, they are either married, married but on their 2nd or 3rd younger wife, or they are single but very old. Like Li-Ka Shing is an option but MacKenzie would have to be willing to go for a guy that's 95.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:48 AM
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You also have to consider how each one treats their man. Lauren has the sexy girl, playful vibe. MacKenzie has been with him for 20 years and worked while he stayed home to build the amazon website. So MacKenzie might feel more entitled than Lauren. The fact MacKenzie doesn't even fix her teeth with all the money she has is odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 03:34 AM
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Ohhhh ok so the CIA is the spy agency of the USA . They do too secret missions in other nations . So as director you meet Putin, Xi , and all kinds of world leaders . The CIA director even gets to meet the taliban
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 03:20 AM
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The guy is David H. Petraeus , former director of the CIA.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 03:10 AM
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No, I prefer Mackenzie in her youth to a plastic doll. but see thats the key word, youth. When bezos first met mackenzie, he was average, so it was a match. But fast forward 20 years, Bezos is one of the richest men in the world, Mackenzie is getting older and hasn't fixed common things like even her teeth or any botox or filler at all. As a relationship goes on, both sides need to stay equal to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 03:09 AM
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but like Lauren isn’t the woman to make your case Sure. I used it since it also involves the man getting wealthy. But there's another better example someone posted in the comments here : https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/academics-use-petraeus-to-show-that-men-forgive-affairs-if-mistress-more-attractive-than-wife
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 03:07 AM
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We do? Bitch we’re trying to lock down one woman we find mildly attractive and is tolerable as a friend and partner. When your status goes up you will want more. That's how life works.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 03:03 AM
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y’all hate plastic fantastic/make-up look. Lauren has the "sexy" vibe. you don't need plastic fantastic to achieve that, but you do need the right makeup / dress / look for it. But also Mackenzie is a plain jane. For her wealth and what she can do she doesn't improve her looks, not even her teeth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 03:01 AM

That sub literally rates stunning women like 5's. Not sure why u mention it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 02:59 AM
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Jeff Bezos, Lauren Sanchez spent the whole weekend in NYC with her ex That was in October 2021. They were engaged in May 22, 2023. You do realize Jeff has access to numerous women, he isn't going to be dating one woman prior to getting engaged, right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 02:58 AM
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Right, thats also what i am saying. Plain jane Mackenzie treats Jeff plain. Lauren Sanchez is spicy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 02:55 AM
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And it’s not like her looks went due to some procedure where plastic surgery might be viable. Her looks didn’t go at all. She maintained her looks as best as a nerdy girl would and could. No, there's a lot she can fix that most women tend to do nowadays https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/rockcms/2022-09/220929-mackenzie-scott-mjf-1023-34298b.jpg filler in her cheeks to correct the weird divets, filler in her chin, fixing her teeth. 3 things that would make a world of difference with…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 02:53 AM
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whom is a plastic fucking doll, is bringing her ex and others to photo ops and vacations. source please. Also how would this be done without Bezos permission ? You don't have any proof there's "cuck"ing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 02:49 AM
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Mackenzie is objectively better looking. She isn't. She has bad teeth she doesn't fix, weird chin / jaw structure, and an odd nose.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 02:44 AM
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Her only real issue is her teeth which I'm surprised she hasn't fixed with all the money she has. But see that what i am trying to say. Put yourself in Bezos shoes. over last 20 years you have made billions, yet you have a wife that doesn't improve basic things how she looks , and will only get older. Not a lot of pluses here. Lauren is going to do things to help her appearance, mackenzie won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 02:43 AM
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Well, his new wife couldn’t find a poor/average income man either. Nothing to conclude the other way around? I mean she's basically in the most undatable position as a woman. She has like $70 billion and she's plain jane ? No man who makes that much would be interested, and there's so few men who do make that much. Maybe warren buffet? But he's married i think.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 02:40 AM

but fortunately this sub represents a very small percentage of the male population. I mean most men will look at more options when their career and status goes up, if it does. This is the same for women too, in my view. Not a gendered thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 02:37 AM
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Why would a woman think she can just skate by looking like this as her husband grows in his career? I do think men should remember the woman who was with them before they were a huge success but at the same time, women do need to step up their game to keep him. Yea his wife basically isn't even trying at all. No makeup, no hairdye, at that age ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 02:36 AM
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Mackenzie is literally in fantastic shape and has great skin and hair. And she’s 53 years old. Well she has weird facial structure , and small tits. Like what your saying would be an absolute score for an average or above average man, but a billionaire? and a top billionaire? she could be having more surgeries if she wanted to keep up with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 02:29 AM
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OP posted a very flattering pic of Mackenzie. Well i wanted to a give a "fair" comparison to avoid being called out on it. But yea day to day mackenzie is a plain jane 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 02:27 AM

Most men think like Bezos.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 02:26 AM
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he divorced mackenzie and chose lauren. same idea
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 02:25 AM
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Someone with 7 inches will be better in the bed than a guy with 6.3 inches. Yes but u need to do the right foreplay when you have 7+ inches in order for her to take you properly. If a vagina doesn't have enough lube and isn't relaxed enough the dick doesn't slide in lol. It basically gets stuck at the tip.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 02:11 PM
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why are there so many questions about autism in this sub ? I mean nothing against it, just that given the sub's focus isn't autism or other spectrum disorders, seems strange...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 02:09 PM
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they just get married later and later in life. 45% of women are expected to be childless by 2030, not unmarried, Nope its single and childless: https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/45-percent-women-are-expected-to-be-single-and-childless-by-2030 People aren't necessarily opting for hookups over ltrs. Marriage rates are on the decline but the majority of people still get married, they just get married later and later in life. Evidence points to people putting off long term relationship in favor of s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 12:05 PM
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Birth rates have been falling globally since the 1970s, In the 70's the birthrate in the USA was like 5-6 children per woman. You have to look at when the birthrate drops below 2, because thats below replacement rate. For the USA, that happened around 2009, when social media and dating apps first took off.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 08:09 AM
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OP, you are missing the key word, "culture". A culture is a set of ideas and beliefs amongst a population, not just an activity. The problem with hookup culture is it removes the typical guidelines of dating for the goal of a long term relationship and then marriage. It creates odd terms like "situationship" or "booty call", which are all ambiguous and leave people confused. For example, up to 45% of women between 25-44 will be single in 2030 from what i read if current trends continue. Then don…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 08:07 AM
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I wouldn’t say professional success is a “masculine” trait… I wouldn’t say wearing mostly jeans is a “masculine” trait. I wouldn’t say not wearing makeup is a “masculine” trait. In fact, I don’t really see how any of these are “masculine” traits 🤷‍♀️. You mean this? That's not a definition. In fact, so many people continuously just refute something isn't feminine or isn't masculine, but for some reason no one can define either one. Makes you think someones trying to erase the differences eh ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:08 AM
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If they are different, with different meanings, then it should be easy to define them each then. within two posts, no one has given me any definition of either masculinity and femininity .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:04 AM
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yes, they also have links to women recognizing a man as masculine https://medium.com/@RobertBurriss/do-tattoos-make-a-man-appear-healthier-and-more-attractive-2faae8abce69
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 12:11 AM
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There was another post about wanting a feminine woman That was my post. I am not trolling. I am showing the utter hypocrisy how I am high fived for wanting a masculine woman, and having people want the FBI sent to my house because i want a feminine woman. its time to PASSPORT
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 12:10 AM
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that’s kinda it - in the modern world, masculine and feminine are both becoming more irrelevant - and that’s my overall point actually; in order to have the masculine and feminine to live in harmony, Speaking strictly about the professional and corporate world, you have an excellent point. Women and men can do any profession today. Biden just named a woman the first leader of the Navy, there's woman coaches of the NFL, etc. “traits” largely depend on things like the surrounding cultures, rights/…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 11:39 PM
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Tattoos are masculine because they are edgy and require long sessions of pain to get . Source I have a held sleeve . Many female tattoo artists are lesbian
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 11:19 PM
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but that doesn’t really speak to OP’s point that strong high earners are likely to expect better. Ah, that's correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 11:09 PM
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Many women like to call men who appreciate youthful energy pedophiles. Giant eyeroll Thank you for finally someone calling this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 11:06 PM
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its moreso about the societal role played, and how you interact with the world around you. So in modern day society, what is the role of the man and what is the role of the woman ? define masculine or feminine by “likes doing X, hates doing Y”, its a lot more abstract and philosophical. Why not though ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 11:01 PM

That woman doesn't look healthy at either weight. I agree, generally most women do good around 125 or so if they don't have curvy genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:42 PM
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But she's apple shaped. https://www.instagram.com/p/CtDm-0vJfqp/ That is pear shaped ^ what your likely referring to with your arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:39 PM

Also, fat loss won't help women with large bones, femininity is often genetic. Sorry couldn't stop laughing when I read this. Big boned is not a medically or scientifically supported theory. body fat percentage is a better metric, but most overweight people have a very high body fat percentage. https://www.reddit.com/r/progresspics/comments/8lb3c8/f2154_150lbs_115lbs_35_lbs_35_years_thanks_to/ That's an overweight BMI, huge stomach. You comment had way too much cope. Are you a femcel or somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:33 PM
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Bro idk where you’re from but there are overweight girls who are fine as hell. Most curvy women are overweight by BMI, Your using exceptions to prove the rule. For example, the beginning of over weight at say 5'4" is 150 pounds, https://www.reddit.com/r/progresspics/comments/8lb3c8/f2154_150lbs_115lbs_35_lbs_35_years_thanks_to/ On the left is 150 at 5'4", big stomach, no thigh fat. Can a woman be fine at overweight BMI ? Yes, but thats determined by genetics and surgery. that's NOT the default.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:31 PM
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Most women are not beautiful (Visit) and feminine, they cannot excite love nor sexually satisfy strong successful men. This is false. If a woman in the west is : A healthy weight according to BMI Wears makeup, feminine clothing She will be more sexually appealing than the majority of the female population. Reminder: average woman in the USA is overweight, many states have obesity rates of 30%
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:07 PM
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if coercion can lead to rape, It's not coercion. Coercion has to have a negative outcome if someone refuses. Things like black mail, etc. https://www.healthline.com/health/sexual-coercion#coercion-vs-consent
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:00 PM
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Not following through with a relationship isn't violating any consent. https://www.healthline.com/health/sexual-coercion#coercion-vs-consent
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:59 PM
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The interesting part is most people on my 600 pound life are married
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:42 PM
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You have to approach and see where u stand . The other question is how well u so in clubs and bars
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:40 PM
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and that’s kinda another issue, modern capitalism does not value femininity or feminine traits - in other words, Nope, many careers value feminine traits over masculine ones. HR, marketing, product management, user interface design. The leaders in these areas are women. There's also nursing, nurse pracitioner, etc. I think overall you make some great points, but the core of the issue to me seems to be gender confusion and promotion of infinite gender identities. Even in my post here the other da…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:20 PM
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liberal feminist so lol Liberal feminism is fine if your wealthier and taller than most men in a given nation. If a guy is dead set only about traditionalism, he would go to Poland.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:00 PM
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Why not just date western women? Western women are far higher earning and have much higher physical standards in men. Also western women are on average (USA) over 170 pounds, while the average asian woman is 121.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 08:58 PM
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Most traditional women won't date outside of their ethnicity you are just gonna end up with a modern liberal feminist girl Nope. At least in East Asian and South East Asian countries, all women are open to dating a foreigner from a western country. confucianism is huge emphasis on wealth and education. And many Asian countries prioritize pale/white skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 08:57 PM
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I am always being told that red pill ideology red pill is anti passport bro. They would view it as being beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 08:49 PM
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Your average passport bro isn’t clouted nor is good looking so these examples don’t matter much. wtf is clout here? also one is a freaking BALD. and has bad facial symmetry . Remember your comment ? Anyways the point is that kpop dudes are slaying more than u. You either have a celebrity kink or you need a therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 08:39 PM
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Have yet to see a high value korean girl with a WM it’s not in the cultural norm. Whats a high value korean girl now ? On average korean women are 50 pounds lighter then american women and usually cute. So please do explain high value. a pretty korean girl and a foreigner https://www.reddit.com/r/wmafs/comments/xg1j78/about_a_week_ago_i_found_this_koreanamerican/ taiwanese girl and a foreigner https://www.instagram.com/pysharon.tw/ ​ Where are all these 4’11 guys getting these girls??? https://w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 08:28 PM
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A kpop star is feminine compared to most western men. If what you are saying was remotely true WMAF wouldn’t even be a thing in Asia . Look I can’t convince you not to believe illusions , I am jsut saying your thinking is not inline with reality . Look at Big Ed , deformed , 4’11” man who has several woman wanting kids with him in the Philippines
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 07:49 PM
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If something cannot be defined in a non-ambiguous manner , then how can you state something is or isn’t masculine ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 07:27 PM
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“Facial symmetry” Black pill is leaking
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 07:25 PM
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Consider drop shipping or affiliate marketing , if u don’t have a tech background
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 07:03 PM
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That’s kind of the point though . Kpop idols are a lot more reasonable looks wise than NBA stars or NFL stars. So the standard of masculine is much more achievable
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:58 PM
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You do have to be cautious about laws regarding property ownership in other countries , as some don’t allow expats to buy property , some require it to be owned by the citizen spouse , etc. but beyond that if you study up well on all the rules , no disadvantages
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:56 PM
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Oh ok got it . So you think we should ban anyone over 18 from playing Pokémon and Nintendo too ? Your funny
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:53 PM
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I said heavily tattooed . Meaning a half sleeve or sleeve . Not little cutsie love ones or one on the back.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:45 PM
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I never asked anyone to agree to anything . You have yet to present any definition of masculinity or femininity that’s non ambiguous
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:44 PM
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No , there’s zero link between pedophilia and stuffed animals . That’s some next level arm chair psychology . Unless I specifically said I want young girls whom have stuffed animals , nothing I said is related to pedophilia. It’s super common for Asians of all ages to like plushies from Pokémon , Japanese cartoons , super hero’s , etc. even some adult women on my post commented that they would want the picture of the plushie I linked .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:43 PM
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I feel rants like these are from guys in the low economy states who don’t have upward mobility to become a passport bro or are too ignorant to consider it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:05 PM
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Any woman does this . Losing a job for man in a family relationship is always a negative . Always
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:05 PM
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Nope , it’s being an alpha bux , You don’t understand that other countries don’t have a concept of Chad or the alpha in the way the USA does . Women in asian countries view financial success as masculine success . Western men are also on average 4-5 inches taller than men in most Asian countries .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:03 PM
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Do you understand what “socially constructed” means? Indeed, but you still haven't given any definitions . First, you state: Femininity: the quality or nature of the female sex Masculinity: the quality or nature of the male sex This would imply biological representation of masculinity and femininity, since sex is biological. Then you mention social construction. If you believe masculinity is socially constructed, how is it socially constructed to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 05:49 PM
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But this contradicts your other comments. According to this, gender is fully related to sex, thus the natural strength men have and physical weakness women have is representative of masculinity and femininity , right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 05:45 PM
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what moral code could it violate? Well, i asked a question yesterday if it's wrong to want a feminine woman, got all kinds of complaints, people wanted to send the FBI to my house, etc. So I am asking the flip side of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:51 PM
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But he was equating femininity with weakness, incompetence and childishness then, now he’s trying to equate masculinity (in women) with competence, strength, fitness and comfortable clothing 🤷‍♀️. Do you have a definition of femininity and masculinity ? Or are they the same to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:50 PM
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I wouldn’t say professional success is a “masculine” trait… Succeeding in a male dominated industry and being a leader in it is a lot more than "professionalism". I wouldn’t say wearing mostly jeans is a “masculine” trait. While also no wearing dresses, is an avoidance of feminine clothing. I wouldn’t say not wearing makeup is a “masculine” trait. I mean it's going against the societal construct of femininity , right ? In fact, I don’t really see how any of these are “masculine” traits 🤷‍♀️. Do …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:46 PM
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they are very likely coping with traumatic childhoods and have regressed into a developmental stage they prefer Millions of adults like pokemon, nintendo, and asian type stores like miniso or uniqlo. I think you, like others are looking at this from a myopic perspective. if you want to out yourself as a pedophile OP, you're doing a great job. Got it so when a guy wants a girl with a cute aesthetic, whose feminine, he's a pedophile. Goes to show you how far the west has regressed huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 03:25 PM
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they became passport bro and are currently being blown by beautiful ladies in a jacuzzi overseas
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:11 AM
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she wouldn’t have moved here. Oh if she's an expat thats even more the case then hehe.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 05:12 AM
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but i doubt its because im a physician. Might be because of the money and prestige that comes with the title, but you'll have a better chance impressing a modern-day woman with how many people follow your social media than showing your medical degree. I think it has to do with having high intelligence or intelligence about important things. Women used to find it intriguing I could explain how different psychedelics effect different receptors in the brain, like the adrenergic receptors vs nmda vs…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:47 AM
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not exposed to anti female content. Then you would have to hide them from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:41 AM
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Kate Winslet Eva Mendez Salma Hayek Kate Upton Jennifer Lopez Christina Hendricks Rihanna Jennifer Love Hewitt Beyonce Sofia Vergara Kat Dennings Scarlett Johansson Ariel Winter All of these are still thin women. You have to think in context of the USA. The average woman weighs over 170 pounds. So thin would mean less than the average weight to a degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:40 AM
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If a woman engaging in casual sex is considered empowering, then I, as a man engaging in casual sex, am a feminist going around empowering women. 👊 It doesn't work like that. To feminists a man engaging in casual sex is treating her like an object and piece of meat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:38 AM
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You get to invest into him in the early days and he feels like you value him even without the money and like you've built something together. He's grateful to you and appreciates it forever and thinks you're not shallow. https://www.instagram.com/mikirai/?hl=en this is basically Miki Rai's life on instagram. It's honestly a very good type of relationship in my view for both parties. Doctors work like crazy in residency and wont have time for a social life outside of a committed / live in relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:32 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawaii
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 03:33 AM
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So you are saying women are children ? That's what's really yikes. Cute culture is very common in Asian countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 03:31 AM
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Nope there’s no way. Either that or you are eating enormous amounts .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 01:32 AM
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I work from home , about 70 hours a week , and go for a 2 mile run each day . No excuses
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 12:51 AM
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Women don’t get chubby by working full time lol. I have plenty of female colleagues who work full time as software engineers and stay fit
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 12:50 AM
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Well that shows you how screwed up US society is compared to Asian countries
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 12:41 AM

You can't be judged as gay if there's no recognition of gay people. Just like how the perception of the N-word and Negro has changed over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 11:03 PM
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Men aren't allowed to have great fashion sense though, because women consider it more feminine YES. Big point there. The USA in general has this problem of a gigantic gay culture where its hard to be considered not gay in many areas. Even europe doesn't have this problem. Dolce and Gabana are offended by the term "gay". I do agree somewhat with the main point though. Men are trying less in other areas that women find attractive "like getting a successful job", because there's too much cost, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 10:47 PM
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Her body looks like a fit woman. Not manly at all lmao. No sir, you have a muscle fetish. Those are HUGE lats and arms. And her face is that of a man when he strains. Makes me want to throw up. You want to see a fit woman? Who's an Olympian? Meet Eileen Gu https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/bf199af3eb6d5db72f4ad054f8501365
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 10:44 PM
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Comparing a time when gay marriage was illegal and gay was considered a mental illness by some to now when rainbows are everywhere is ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 10:31 PM
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Feminine is not a body type, it's a state of mind. Correct, but how we shape and change our bodies is a reflection of whats in our mind. A woman who body builds seek to be masculine in her mind, so she reflects that by building a body of huge muscles. I built my own bookcases and then filled them with gardening, cooking, crafting, art, classics poetry, fairy tales, and historical books along with plants, picture frames and decorative trinkets. Am I not feminine because I put my own bookcases tog…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 10:28 PM
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First 6 figures generally means 100k-999k, but usually its 200k-400k. But what I mean is it's not a problem that can be solved with general income. Even working harder and earning more doesn't do anything dramatic to your dating life. It's a society problem. unless u earn like $5 mill a year
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 10:14 PM
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lifting huge weights and heaving muscular legs and lots of tattoos isn't feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 09:07 PM
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There's nothing inherently feminine about short shorts and there have been multiple times and places where they were the peak of masculine fashion. Define inherent. A man wearing short shorts WILL be recognized as feminine. If I walk down market street in Sf with short shorts i will be considered gay and feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 09:07 PM
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I can get puss. Do you believe wanting a feminine woman is to much to ask for ? These are examples, not strict requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 09:05 PM
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I can’t blame them. We don’t have the beautiful wife, nice home, and great career that was promised to the boomers. Instead we have runaway inflation, global warming, ridiculous job market, Imagine though if you have all of those issues but make 6 figures and up. Thats the tech bro life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 08:59 PM
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and found out that random hipster women in SF dress better then their techbro population It's not so much the hipsters, its the tech women. Those that work in recruiting, HR, sales, and also engineering. hipsters don't roam outside the mission or dolores park lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 08:57 PM
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when she's 40 to get into weight lifting. I didn't clarify this part. When i mean weight lifting i don't mean some machines or light weights. I mean hitting the squat rack and heavy dead lifting / squatting. It doesn't look feminine when a woman is dead lifting 300 and has veins sticking out of her neck. This is quite common in the SF bay area. To what extent are these characteristics dealbreakers and to what extent are they guidelines to point you in the right direction? Are other virtues and q…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 08:55 PM
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OP, as a fellow SF software engineer, I disagree with you here. Women in the bay area are very trendy. Green juices, organic fruit, soul cycle classes, hot yoga classes, tin can water bottles. Women here are very good at balancing technical traits and social traits. But when u look in companies in who's like level 5+ or 6+ engineers? 92% male for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 08:49 PM
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The problem isn't so much about quotas and affirmative actions, it's more about women wanting to be men or always wanting more https://www.engadget.com/women-suing-google-gender-pay-disparity-095033360.html women who work at google offices, who already have decent salaries, free food, free gym, so many benefits still want to sue for more to muscle up to the boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 08:44 PM
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but i didn't say i want someone to play a full house wife role. I actually like to cook as a guy, and have found making good food for a woman is a plus in some cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:51 PM
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White women who feel threatened by cuter, thinner women will come out the woodwork to say the most fucked up ignorant shit about asian women's bodies. All over these comments already lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:38 PM
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https://franchise-minisobd.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Section.png this is a plushie
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:36 PM

You're lusting after a girl who's stupid and helpless with only her plushies to come to her aid. For fuck's sake dude. You don't want a woman. You want a CHILD! Found the karin ! I'm going to make an assumption here. I may be wrong, but I don't think I am. Lay off the anime. It's affecting your ability to conceptualize women as anything other than weak, timid, squeaky-voiced little girls that have been aggressively hypersexualized. This tricks your brain into believing these girls are actually g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:35 PM
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OP literally described the qualities of a 10 year old girl. Nothing I described is child like. Full adult women in all countries buy plushies: https://franchise-minisobd.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Section.png The feminine energy vs masculine energy is an intricate subject and one I wish people who don't understand it would stop talking about. You simply cannot reduce it down to wearing makeup vs killing spiders. But then what's the difference between feminine and masculine energy? The reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:31 PM
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Yes. why?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:28 PM
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how many women are purposefully picking to stay single if women are purposefully staying single it means those "real men" aren't in the country, they have left. So it proves your premise wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:22 PM
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Losers go overseas. Men with real options marry at home Men who are sick of women who are obese and entitled aren't losers. https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/45-percent-women-are-expected-to-be-single-and-childless-by-2030 45% of young women will be single by 2030. Passport bros are going to you what happens when women get too fat and entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:16 PM
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that’s a thing in Asia so just move over there Thats what lots of men are doing. Women in the USA will be mostly single by 2045 because of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:13 PM
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why is this getting downvoted ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:07 PM
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https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRMB8_a3BZkYefRFjTaqrRmsXA1D3S5Kx9hMI6ALL46G6pS6fPgbXxg4cZd3x1Q4KYGME4&usqp=CAU people shopping at miniso are not kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:06 PM
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yeah You are the one assuming that it is by telling me on the internet when you have no idea where In from or where Ive been isnt that ironic? 😂 No one in Asia thinks plushies are a child like. Beyond that where you are is irrelevant, nor should i seek to find it out as that would be against reddit rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:05 PM
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What you are forgetting is it all depends on how money is viewed. Does she want him to pay because she feels she deserves it ? Then yes, narcissist. However, seeing if someone offers to pay as a test of their ability or status isn't narcissistic. See in Asia women will always first try to pay the bill entirely then expect you to fight for it. Fighting and winning to pay it is a huge indicator of status.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:02 PM
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looking at other human beings and thinking about whose semen they came from? The comment i replied to was mentioning considering women with kids. Thus, a child is a product of semen and egg. If you are raising a child that isn't yours, you need to know where that semen came from. Is it a guy with violent tendencies that's going to show up one day ? are they still seeing each other ? etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:58 PM
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I mean, I also make a mid 6 digit income and am 6’2, but that hasn’t really furthered my cause in America haha. I think he meant more socially skilled and dominant? status falls generally in two buckets traditional status (wealth, career, education) alternative status (drugs, clubbing, coolness, "hoes") In general Asian countries are drawn toward traditional status, USA does not in modern times. Maybe in the 80's, or 90's, but not now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:48 PM
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Lol just for you calling me a teenager i just donated $5 to the israeli defense force.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:42 PM
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And most women over 22 don’t wear shorts shorts. lol thats obviously false. There are tons of women who would love that plushie though. But specifically asking for this in a partner is eeh kinda weird and creepy It's an example of a positive quality. Have you not been to a uniqlo or miniso store ? or daiso ? Thats what i am talking about. A woman who is Lifting weights is a healthy woman. No woman looks muscular by lifting weights if she doesn’t take testosterone supplements. Thats false. https:…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:39 PM
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very few people would criticise it. Well this thread shows otherwise But i guess the UK or outside the USA is more reasonable with masculinity and femininity
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:22 PM
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I can't believe you have dozens of women explaining to you that your views of femininity are skewed, and that you still believe you're in the right. So because n=10 women say something its true? Have you not heard of korea or japan or taiwan or kawaii culture? or kpop? how old are you? I swear to you, no educated, adult man should be saying these things unironically. LOL this made me chuckle. If you are not sarcastic here you must be the lady in the DMV who calls the numbers
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:20 PM
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no its call appreciating other cultures and not thinking the USA is a fishbowl . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawaii or kpop
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:06 PM
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A child is a human you love actually But that child is produced by a man's sperm and woman's egg. If that sperm isn't mine, the man that sperm came from needs to be considered. I am not saying women with kids are a deal breaker, but it all depends on who that other man is and the current situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:04 PM
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how that would translate to being feminine because a woman who is stuck up, feels entitled, bad attitude Well femininity isn't synonymous with good. Like some aspects of a relationship have to do with gender , some do not. So yes, you are correct, but there's two separate categories of relationship requirements. A very important one is having defined gender roles. A woman who seeks a masculine man, a man who seeks a feminine woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:02 PM
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more important comparability related stuff first. the features you describe are just quirks. While thats true, you can tell a lot from a person from their quirks . Woman who squats 300 pounds and deadlifts too == wanting to be a man and masculine
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:59 PM
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lol the reason i clicked on this post was because of the cute plushie. i was immediately like “i want it.” Now you are a feminine woman, cookie deserved !
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:57 PM
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What here is childlike ? Cute != child https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawaii the whole world isn't western.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:55 PM
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not at all
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:53 PM
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Especially if you're intending to leave them home alone or with small kids with responsibility for organising and cleaning the household while you go to work. red herring, didn't say anything about stay at home partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:52 PM
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Being scared of bugs and liking stuffed animals is childlike, You have to show this is true first.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:51 PM
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Im saying liking plushies has no bearing on feminity. There's different degrees of plushies though. The one i linked is feminine. A pikachu plushie isn't really feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:50 PM
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'I dont want a woman with kids but if she has plushies that is ultimate feminine" Kids are the product of another man's semen. Plushies are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:49 PM
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There are not many Muslim men here to judge them or hurt them so they do what they like. ahhhh good point. there's no haram police hehe
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:47 PM
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“is it wrong that I like feminine women” is “is it wrong that I prefer these specific traits.” The problem is though some people believe femininity or masculinity have no real definitions, so i did that to narrow down what would be considered feminine in a classic sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:44 PM
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So, if a man wants a feminine woman, is he prepared to protect and provide for her and understand that he'll have to wait on sex? The length of time before sex is a culture and country specific thing. For example, both Taiwan and China are the same race , use the same language etc. But in Taiwan, it's common to have sex sooner, while in China, you wait longer. but otherwise, makes sense what you are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:41 PM
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Like, I love plushies, tennis, girly skirts, etc. but I also would be ecstatic to hold a cute tarantula and I can’t get my nails done because I do a lot of sculpting. So am I masculine ? Because I don’t fit perfectly in your definition of femininity? Nope, you are definitely feminine. It's what one sums up to as a person that counts. Also I have to break it to you that you’ll probably never find a woman who does all of these things constantly. These are all "possible" positive traits. They don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:38 PM
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for men to be nurturing too? So why is that a feminine trait? biology, Women have breasts that produce milk for babies. Men can be protective and comforting, but nurturing will feel and be seen as a feminine role.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:37 PM
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That shit ain't femininity though. Can you define femininity then?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:36 PM
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This is insanity, do you know how dangerous bbls are?? Oh please thats pure propaganda. the death rate of a BBL is the same as a hip replacement or most surgeries that involve cutting into the lower body. BBL is 0.3%, hip replacement is 0.35%. Surgery itself is dangerous yes. But most surgeries are equally dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:13 PM
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There is a difference between female and feminine. Yes, there is. Women can be masculine or feminine. You were saying feminine and femininity are the same, but i guess u meant female and feminine. Some pieces of clothing will be recognized as feminine or masculine by a given culture. If i stroll down the streets of San Francisco wearing short shorts, i will 100% be approached by gay men because i will be noticed as feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:10 PM
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Women tend to be bigger, stronger, fatter, and more masculine, so they work with what they've got. Where "feminine" turns into "androgynous" turns into "masculine" is entirely in the eye of the beholder. I definitely see what you are saying with asia vs the west
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:06 PM
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body build or women lifting heavy to get the idea feminine shape of big thighs and shapely bum? This is a false concept. two reasons. One, women who work out and lift heavy weights, do so for becoming stronger. Does this women look feminine to you: https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1855213/team-usas-jourdan-elizabeth-delacruz.jpg Her back and arms are like a man. Two, women actually focused on the booty and legs are getting a bbl or using waist trainers or things very focused on a feminine shape. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:03 PM
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Sorry to be the one to break it to you, but I think you'll find that "having muscles" is inherently human. Or in fact, inherently mammalian. We could even go further, birds, fish, reptiles, amphibians, even insects all have muscles as far as I'm aware. I mean't big muslces, appearing muscular . ​ Come on bro
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:59 PM
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Both femininity and masculinity Stand in character, and the energy one exudes. Not likes or dislikes and fears. Women tend to be more nurturing, men tend to be more protective. Women are subtle, they read and act in social situations better. Men are stern, they can deal with conflict better. Women pay attention to details, men see the bigger picture but sometimes neglect the details the women might get lost in. Women read the room. Men change the energy of a room altogether in the case its absol…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:58 PM
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No. No it isn't. That's a very bizarre reply Do you understand the "femininity" is the noun of the adjective "feminine". This is basic english. look up any dictionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:35 PM
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It sounds like you want a damsel in distress who needs you for everything. No woman is in distress and thinking that they are is not acknowledging their agency. So you think being a woman or being feminine is not having agency. Do you think only men have agency then?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:34 PM
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Weight lifting is absolutely necessary for women as 1 in 10 women suffer from osteoporosis caused by menopause. If a woman wants to be mobile in her old age, she better lift weights. I don’t think being immobile is very feminine. I should have clarified this. I don't mean literally doing the leg press or some machines. I am talking about a regimen to gain muscle. Like think of the girls on instagram doing very heavy squats.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:33 PM
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They can be female attire, that does not make them feminine attire uhhh thats inherently a contradiction. It's like saying having a uterus isn't feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:32 PM
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Or ya know: working out. If it were just testosterone more men would be muscular. Men always have more muscle mass then women. Women have 7x as less testosterone. Weight lifting is great for women as it improves bone density which women lose as they age. Ok when i say weight lifting, i don't mean doing a leg press on 50 pounds after a jamba juice smoothie. i mean women who work out to gain muscle. Think of the instagram fitness girls. That is masculine as hell. Can you just not be purposefully i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:31 PM
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Yea i would say you are masculine then. You do everything and don't feel a man is desired or needed beyond a penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:28 PM
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why do you consider these things child like? have u not heard of kawaii culture before https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawaii ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:27 PM
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already confirmed lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:27 PM
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Submissive and feminine are not synonyms. Agreed. But i already addressed that. nothing i listed here is submissive Short shorts are not feminine. Oh please. Men do not wear short shorts unless they are gay. Thus they are feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:26 PM
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It depends, is there anything or any activity you believe is more masculine than feminine ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:25 PM
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https://media.gq.com/photos/615352fca4d0cbe908c84d0d/16:9/w_2560%2Cc_limit/1233826449 yea, so "built". the male ones are twigs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:24 PM
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It's not. Okay this is outright biological ignorance. Having larger muscles is a direct effect of testosterone. They want more power in their swing or serve. Muscles do that. Believe it or not muscles are functional. tennis and golf swings are not based on muscles, they are based on rotation of the whole body. Most male tennis players are twigs lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:23 PM
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But I have to woman up and deal with spiders and lightbulbs and broken toilets and all the rest of adult life. If you had a choice would you prefer to do those yourself or your main to do it for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:21 PM
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It's about being intuitive, in tune with your emotions, not being a doormat, being caring and motherly, being strong and brave, caring for others. How is being strong and brave feminine? So how do you define masculinity as opposed to femininity ? What are the differences?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:20 PM
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Exceptions don't prove the rule lol. most female tennis players look like this https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/licensed-image?q=tbn:ANd9GcTt_965LRJtxOOBDcUFXXLRom-UmetkmiQtzVrStbs-r4RN94X_PlEoqeTg7xHpnnOe4w8Zkcy4lXZkb_s
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:17 PM
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Why is lifting weights only for men? Having muscles is inherently masculine. Do you think pro tennis and golf players don't incorporate weight lifting into their fitness routines? They do not lift weights with the goal of being muscular. and the majority of tennis and golf training is NOT based off of weight lifting. How does being afraid of bugs and spiders, not putting together Ikea furniture, or caulking a shower not align with women's biological or physical presentation? That's just idiotic.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:16 PM
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presenting feminine as weak, delicate, and unable to do anything beyond dressing that way. Where did i say this ? I only described external traits. Would you consider female tennis players weak ? women are the biologically physically weaker sex, so making decisions as such is feminine, not weak or delicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:14 PM
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Why do you think of femininity as child like? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-10/researchers-examine-the-role-of-sex-hormones-arachnophobia/8430566 90% of spider phobias are in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:12 PM
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Like, plushies for example - it’s not inherently feminine to like them or not. You can be indifferent to them. Same with spiders. You can be feminine and not care about overall dresses. Liking plushies, plants, or small animals shows a nurturing side to someone. It's not inherently feminine biologically, but it's an indicator of it if a woman does it. The things you listed aren’t inherently feminine when you look at the definition of femininity. It might be a version of femininity you like, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:11 PM
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over 90% of spider phobias are found in women https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-10/researchers-examine-the-role-of-sex-hormones-arachnophobia/8430566 But why do u think these things are wrong ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:08 PM
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why do you define femininity as being scared, weak, being taken care of, and enjoying stuffed animals? you are generalizing here. Do you think tennis or golf pro women athletes are weak ? My point is femininity for me is about doing things in line with a woman's biological or physical presentation. They should recognize some forms of activity as more geared for men, like lifting weights, or swatting spiders, or fixing broken cabinets etc. but also you can have subs for these. loving plants could…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:06 PM
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fear of spiders aren’t feminine qualities no, that is something woman specific. The majority of genuine arachnophobes are women, with some studies suggesting as many as 90 per cent of arachnophobes are female. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-10/researchers-examine-the-role-of-sex-hormones-arachnophobia/8430566 90% of people afraid of spiders are women. Also read up on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawaii
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:59 PM
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I think though its not that women teach men to be feminine, they rather caudal or tend to their every need, and men grow up and expect women to be the ones to ask them out, take them out on dates, and do all the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:57 PM
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my initial very skeeved out impression. So do you believe wearing makeup, dresses, getting your nails done, or being afraid of spiders is child like ? Why do you like femininity and being a child ? internal sexism ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:54 PM
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No, that’s what you seem to believe. No that was your opinion. I never said anything about children here. You are the one who linked femininity and being a child. So women who don't like building things are children now ? or who like plushies ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:52 PM
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How can you nurture something that is inanimate? Wouldn’t you want a woman who had pets or plants? Pets or plants would be even better. But then people will get distracted and say men like those too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:48 PM
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So do you believe femininity is inherently child like ? That seems odd. Or do you define femininity differently ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:47 PM
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Liking or collecting plushies is about being nurturing and loving. You want to give a home to a cute little plush. It's similar to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawaii But im not here to define feminine, i am mostly asking is looking for these things in a woman wrong ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:44 PM
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Disagree because it's not limited to average guys at all. Women berate attractive men for being "assholes" or "pricks who just want sex". This is the post-rationalization for either rejection or failure to turn a hookup into a relationship. but your correct on the woman part.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:42 PM
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She wears hijab so I’m not sure where this will go Are you a muslim yourself? I thought muslim women cannot date non muslims.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 01:53 PM
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You do know if you were high value enough, hot girls here (America) would treat you like how those Filipino girls are treating you right? It’s just that those 3rd world countries a the girls there are broke af, so anything above poverty salary is respectable. Nope. USA doesn't value wealth , education, or status that much. I make over $330k a year, 6 feet tall, jewish, went to top schools, and have tried picking up girls or dating girls that make minimum wage from fast food places or jamba juice…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 01:48 PM
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"Situationships" isn't anything new, it seen as initial stage for relationships. No it is a new thing. It's really just casual sex plus dates. The difference is normal dating discusses what people are looking for but situationships do not. And situationships are non-exclusive by definition. Just a way for women to lie to themselves they aren't sharing chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 01:44 PM
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Are you Shona or Ndebele? are these tribes, or ethnic groups within Zimbabwe ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 01:41 PM
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planning on moving to the Philippines early next year 🙂 I’m excited! Also yes I am white, which admittedly does help a smidge. you go bro thats the way to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:36 AM

virtue signaling strong here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 08:26 PM
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Outside of bars or clubs, meaning in dating environments, men generally gain more leverage with status and wealth, women gain it with looks. Men need a baseline level of looks, but it's not the uncanny valley / chad morphs that black pills think of.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 04:42 PM
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Many of my old high school friends got married at 18-20 and have been "out of the pool" for years. in 2021 the average marriage age is 29 https://www.brides.com/what-is-the-average-age-of-marriage-in-the-u-s-4685727#:~:text=According%20to%202021%20statistics%2C%20the,at%2024.6%20years%20of%20age. If many of your friends got married at 18, you are the outlier here, by far.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:33 AM
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Huh? You get lean by eating nothing. Push ups/pull ups are free. This is proven by prison guys being buff , and i think all prisons banning free weights
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 12:05 AM
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Understanding that people need a place to live and it's not okay for anyone to hoard housing and artificially inflate the prices is just basic human decency. land lords don't hoard housing. They make it cheaper by giving the option to rent. The biggest impact on housing is jobs and inflation. Gentrification always happens due to companies moving in and offering big paying jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:07 PM
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If you can afford to drop thousands of dollars without blinking, then you've got an attitude towards money that doesn't exactly suggest moral integrity. One thing I will challenge you on here is, at least in the SF bay area, landlords are the opposite. The landlord I used to have for example was actually extremely frugal with everything except buying the properties. Never fix anything, but also he only ever wore costco or walmart clothing and only ate fast food . His house is very big but the in…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:52 PM
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I said “ok but I want so be extremely clear I’m not going to have sex with you”. After dinner (which was phenomenal and cost $700 for a 8 course tasting with wine paring) I thanked him, gave him a hug, and went to hail a taxi to go home. You did the right thing here. Hopefully the guy takes time to learn a lesson.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:50 PM
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communism would be great. Regarding crypto though, its basically communism because there's no central banks dictating monetary policy .
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:48 PM
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He's probably doing something gross with his time like crypto or being a landlord. Are you a communist/socialist or left wing ? Not liking someone due to politics is different than it being a legitimate red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:45 PM

raising a child is mentally 1000x harder than any job This is false in a objective sense because you cannot be fired or lose the job of parenting. It's not comparable to a job that can be lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 02:23 PM
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I also was not defining feminism. Anywhere. you did here: It's interesting you say feminists want power. More interesting that you follow it up with power that they take from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:02 AM
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I disagree because I feel (although you can prove me wrong) you might be using a standard of modesty that's not realistic for the culture you live in. Like this is hard to navigate depends on how you define provocative. For example, https://m.media-amazon.com/images/S/aplus-media-library-service-media/e8c78c17-56d6-416a-a22e-dd155ecd027d.__CR0,0,970,600_PT0_SX970_V1___.jpg is workout attire ok ? is a low cut top and short shorts ok on a hot day ? https://publish.purewow.net/wp-content/uploads/si…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:58 AM
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who already like dressing modestly and date THEM I feel OP likely has a very unreasonable standard of modesty where most people don't even dress like that. Or else as you say, this would be easy just by avoiding women wearing club dresses at KFC.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:53 AM
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Yes but that's not the stated purpose of feminism. Like feminists say feminism is good for men too, but that can only be true if its truly about equality of the sexes, and not empowerment just for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:52 AM
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You'll first need to demonstrate that left wing feminism as a whole does this. That is already demonstrated by the overwhelming "victim blaming" position feminists take. https://www.feminist.com/resources/ourbodies/viol_blame.html The overwhelming support of Mattress girl by feminist organizations at the highest level should be proof of this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mattress_Performance_(Carry_That_Weight)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:34 AM
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There is nothing wrong with wanting power, especially if it's the power of self-determination. feminism is supposed to be about equality of the sexes, not power for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:25 AM
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The problem is you basically are seen as another girl to that girl not as a man or masculine. In fact I would often be the only guy in a group of girls and would be able to have normal conversations with them because I was essentially seen and treated like a girl. You will have a strong platonic relationship which is fine but that’s the end and extent of it. There will not be any romantic interest in you period. Ok I see where you are coming from but I think the issue might be you never did this…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 08:44 PM

I mean it all depends what kind of values you have yes. Not to mention that in some places, paying for the other person can be seen as insulting (eg nordics,spain) If you want women like that be prepared for the negatives / tradeoffs: https://www.elsevier.com/connect/nordic-paradox-highest-rate-of-intimate-partner-violence-against-women-despite-gender-equality
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 08:34 PM
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the reason they are too nice is they are unattractive Thats a slippery slope. No one is obligated to be nice because they are unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 08:29 PM
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didnt read past the first paragraph. Read further. You need to lead in a way that she feels needs being lead. That's where investigating emotionally comes into play. Also women describe masculine men as "nice" all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 08:28 PM

I'm not advocating for spending large money or anything like that. But say you go to coffee or for a lunch, if it's like paying $18 or $9 for both of you, and that maybe makes an impression, I think its worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 06:04 PM

I mean, you want to essentially pay people to sleep with you yes? It’s transactional. No he wants to save larger investment until there's some initial returns.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:43 PM

How about you go 50/50 all the time , despite open legs or not? That will leave your dick dry in many cases or definitely in Asian countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:41 PM
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lol most of guys under 1. and 2. do ask those questions and are very interested in girls life and bonding with her on all levels They definitely do not. The very reason nice guys are too nice in 1 and 2 is because they either want a transactional relationship, or are too timid or obtuse to ask the right questions and stick to small talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:37 PM
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The "woman aren't confident" is from the 1950s. Please get with the times. Literally one google search gives you research studies from the last 5 years talking about the "confidence gap" https://www.forbes.com/sites/naomicahn/2020/02/26/do-women-and-men-have-a-confidence-gap/?sh=651bc78e7bd2 And yes, emotional needs are a part of maturity. Children need their hand held to cross the street because they are immature. If you need your partner to handhold you to fulfill your dreams, you are immature…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:31 PM
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I feel like what you’re really saying about the man in the second category is that he’s attractive. Did you stop reading the post there ? Or did you read till the end? Thus we comeback to the age old advice: be attractive and don’t be unattractive. Women aren't men. You need more things beyond looks to be attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:27 PM
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These traits aren't recognized as female though. Thats your perception you are putting out there. Like we wouldn't call west elm caleb feminine for love bombing and ghosting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:25 PM
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This is a just world fallacy. (and a good reason why women and men are so confused) I don't think women need a man to validate or give them attention to fulfill their ambitions. All people need some amount of validation and support. It's part of being human. Women tend to have less confidence than men, so generally men play the role of emotional support a little bit more, you are just as emotionally immature as the "nice guys" you are criticizing. Maturity has nothing to do with emotional needs.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:21 PM
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Wouldn't the second man also fall into this category, assuming he wasn't particularly oblivious? It's possible, but typically a good portion of these men tend lack insight into people, they don't approach personal topics and stay at surface level things. But depends on the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:15 PM
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Are you arguing women want a guy who understands women ? Then I agree with you. But if you are arguing that female friends are a substitute for men, I would like to ask you if you want to give a blowjob to the male friends you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:05 PM
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Did you even read what i wrote? If anything recognizing someones insecurities is the opposite of putting them on a pedestal .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:55 PM
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I mean you are comparing apples to oranges. If women aren't attracted to other women, not sure how a man becomes a female friend. Women can't get attached to other women the same way men don't become attached to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:53 PM

How do you know she isn't a sugar baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:08 PM
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romantic/sexual relationships and don't like being single. Look up the term "situationship" It's likely what most young women will be doing as time goes on, sharing chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:25 PM
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Im in the US and our birthrate is dropping too but we have immigration which offsets the problem. USA birth rate is still 1.64 .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:24 PM

My brother is 5’5” and he works at a health insurance company and is definitely not rich, and he doesn’t have any problems dating lol. How tall are the women he is dating ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:21 PM

He is only missing one thing: height (he’s around 5’5”.) 5'5" is quite short though for a guy. That's where a portion of women are even taller than you (the 5'6"-5'7" women), and a good chunk are at eye level . But he could do great if he sticks to SE Asian women who are on average closer to 5 feet. This would produce a similar height gap seen in average men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:20 PM

I have an old friend from college who is similar (short, handsome, rich) and got a lot of women. Married now his wife is a knockout too. how tall is the wife ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:16 PM
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None of these are manipulation. Manipulation is convincing or steering someone to do something they wouldn't otherwise do for you. Saying a woman is beautiful before she puts her make up on might be just to support her or might be what a man thinks. Positive reinforcement != manipulation. A better example of manipulation might be if a man said "you will only be beautiful if you gain 50 pounds", and then proceeds to take actions to discourage her when she's not eating. Most manipulation needs neg…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:01 AM
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status is typically tied to some form of importance or competence , and i think importance and competence plays a role in mate selection for having children with good genes. Is it a deep evolutionary reason or just culture. Different cultures emphasize different status. In America Zuck is a nerd but in Asia he's a god worshipped by asian women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:10 AM
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Isolating a person from their friends is considered a form of controlling behaviour according to CPS, which is what he was trying to do. He said she couldn’t see her male friends, or even her female friends that he didn’t like. These aren't the same thing. CPS is saying isolation from all or nearly all friends or family. Not seeing one or a set of friends is not isolation. I have dated a few women who didn't want me to be friends with some really attractive women who weren't work related. Totall…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:01 AM
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“I won’t date a women with any male friends” and “you’re not allowed to have any male friends” is abusive and wrong, I think we have to define though the closeness of these friends. If it's being applied to any male or colleague, sure that's abusive . But very close friends ? In my experience the women I have dated didn't want me to have any close female friends (meaning who aren't colleagues and you spend one on one time together in a social context) , and I totally understand that .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:57 AM
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Women tend to be more educated than their husbands these days Those are humanities degrees for masters or phds. Not math or science.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:52 AM
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happiest, healthiest Do you have a source on that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:43 AM
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how men don’t want women with actual careers and don’t care about women’s earning potential. Can you give an example of an "actual career" . Last I checked all careers are .... careers. Then they cry that the women get “half of their stuff” in a divorce and in rare cases they have to pay alimony. I mean this is still the case if the man simply earns more than the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:42 AM
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I think /u/AstronautLoveShack isn't talking about a long term decline in attraction, she's talking, (likely) about what I have seen even in other subs or on tiktok / instagram where a guy or girl does one small thing wrong and everyone is commenting DUMP HER!!!! / You deserve better than him !!! dump his ass!!!! EDIT: Also FDS literally advocates for ghosting a guy just because he checks his phone one time on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:38 AM
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But you forget most people make little salaries in sweden due to the huge welfare state and huge taxes. So its a lot easier to be broke enough not to be able to pay child support. Sweden is socialist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:36 AM
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I have gone on a few one on one hang outs with girls though OP, be careful because those are NOT dates. making any moves outside of a date might land you in trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:00 AM
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https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/01/politics/investigates-fbi-syria-greene/index.html ​ this belongs here
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 02:54 AM
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if it's extremely rare why does it not happen more than that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 12:43 AM
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Denmark does it, Sweden does it, Finland does it, WOW I had no clue about that. Jesus christ the USA is some messed up combo of traditionalism and feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 12:41 AM
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what kind of standards or say specific requirements do you have ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 12:40 AM
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exactly what is he doing there? In my case, we're not having kids. So I'm paying for a butler You should assume he would also have his own hobbies and travels he does on your dime, outside of house duties.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 12:39 AM
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ohh u mean like elderly health conditions that impede physical activity. Thats very different from say a 30 year old woman claiming her obesity is caused by a medical condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:46 PM
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OP, I disagree because the problem is not marriage, it's divorce laws. The USA is a very bad mix of feminism and traditionalism. We have no fault divorce and child support and alimony ,
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:44 PM
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This is why you gotta pick someone that loves you as a person This is a black / white fallacy. Men pick someone for their looks OR who they are as a person. In reality it's always a mix. So you have to see what basket you want to separate those eggs into.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:40 PM
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Weight gain can happen due to stress, medications, age, health issues, busy schedules, complacency. It’s not really a conscious decision. Are we talking 20 pounds or like 70+ ? Large weight gains are always issues with diet and exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:37 PM
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Nope. It wouldn't work. Most deal breakers are easily verifiable. Income, height, looks, dick size, etc. Anything outside of deal breakers are subjective qualities that change with the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:35 PM
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Anecdotes like "this overweight influencer has a lot of social media followers" are not generalizable to the greater population. They don't need to be generalized to the greater population. My argument was a small portion of overweight women with more desirable characteristics are being used to represent ALL overweight women. At this point you are derailing. there are countless counter examples. Start listing them. Kim K certainly isn't one. It's also odd you're attributing follower count to raw…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 10:46 PM
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Those 'desirable' bodies you're claiming are not desirable to the masses. Not even remotely, for the most part. You're projecting your personal preference for voluptuousness on everyone else. What metric are you using to judge "the masses" here ? There's instagram accounts of women with pear shaped / curvy bodies with millions of followers . The top only fans creators / IG accounts mostly have curvy bodies. Cardi B has 169 million instagram followers https://www.instagram.com/p/Cuc86wgOBft/?hl=e…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 10:15 PM
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But no I've never been aroused sexually by a personality. But what aroused u about the men whom are average by black pillers?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 07:51 PM
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They associate a large body with being grown up and the fear is actually surrounding women knowing so much they could abandon them easily like an adult could to a child. That's a bit of an odd train of thought. How did you come up with this ? I often think of fat women as feminine just not appealing. A lot of grandma types are fat, so I often actually like fat women in a platonic sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 06:13 PM
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Comparing sex to food and sexual urges to hunger is stupid because you will not die if you don’t have sex. Nofap wouldn't be a thing if not having sexual release didn't have immense biological ramifications. Not ejaculating makes me very very horny at the 6 day or 7 day mark. I literally can't concentrate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 04:38 PM
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That photo admittedly makes her look a bit less curvy than if you saw her in real life, due to the angle she's making with her body. Her waist is literally WIDER than her hips. Thats a negative ratio. She has decent sized tits, and we can't make out other features at all. You are just into bbw lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 04:30 PM
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In developed countries there are also desperate people, but it can only go so bad because of good social safety nets. this is a majorly flawed way of thinking. No woman in SE Asia is dating a foreigner for basic necessities. They are dating them to get access to income in some cases far beyond what can be earned in their home country. It's a boost far more than any social safety net. It's not comparable to what pimps do to girls in the USA. at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 06:43 AM
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This is a red herring, no one is complaining about dating overweight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 06:37 AM
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In the USA its pretty standard amongst at least my social circle (tech guys in SF bay area)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 11:30 PM
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the first and third photo are the same did u post the wrong one?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 10:38 PM
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That isn't chubby. Nearly all the fat is distributed nicely around the hips and thighs. https://previews.123rf.com/images/alexzabusik/alexzabusik1905/alexzabusik190500062/123287961-overweight-female-person-resting-at-the-sea-young-chubby-woman-in-bikini-comes-out-from-seawater.jpg this is what most guys would think of as chubby.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 10:37 PM
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Account made few hours ago But it’s also been extreme/aggressive: jamming their tongue in my mouth, Checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:01 PM
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Is this a strawman you've extrapolated from another part of reddit? you clearly haven't look at dating_advice. They literally say the most obtuse things. Like spending time with parents is a replacement for a dead bedroom. So ridiculous .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 04:53 PM
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If he eats your pussy or wants 69
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 04:30 PM
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I mean, they're copying the romantic gestures in romantic movies that women love. That's the "handbook for dating women" that society hands to men, and that women have socially approved of. In the movies the man expresses romantic interest in the woman initially then proceeds to do those things. In real life the "nice guy" does them in reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 10:06 PM
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i don't disagree "nice guy" has some trad con roots that don't apply in the modern era, but that's different
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 10:04 PM
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Definitely have seen ladies make food for the guys they're into. Pay attention to their hobbies even if they have no interest themselves. Compliment them and so on. Great points. However I feel the key part is entitlement. Generally women doing these things is a natural expression of their feelings to a man in the hope he notices. It's not transactional. Making food for a man is a big thing for a woman to do. But for a nice guy, its transactions. He feels he doles out his nice tokens, so he gets…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 10:01 PM
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Consent? For a make believe relationship? Consent in the agreement sense. The male version would be if you slept with a woman and she started making plans for marriage without telling you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 09:56 PM
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Claiming that women totally would have dated, or at least fucked, these men if they had been upfront. Is asinine. I never said this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 09:55 PM
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Claiming that women only dislike "nice guys" because they weren't upfront, implies that had they been upfront, the woman would have dated, or at least fucked, the man. Please read my post. I never implied nor said this. I only am arguing the woman will not hate them or complain about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 09:54 PM
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. It weaponizes men's frustration and humiliates them for feeling very valid emotions. Women don't like nice guys because they aren't attracted to them as guys, not because they're "nice guys." But the man doesn't have to be so giving and generous to a woman he isn't dating or has expressed interest in dating. Like I commented in the daily thread a few days ago. There are two brands of nice guys. The ones who get women and the ones who don't. This means the act of being a nice guy isn't a prereq…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:31 PM
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Men should not simp. But women should not be disingenuous and pretend that they think that someone simping for them was "just being friendly". Super good point, ill make this my next post here for a debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:27 PM
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There are plenty of women who slept with guys who claimed they wanted a relationship, and gave the woman just what she needed to give the guy sex, only for her to complain a out him later (usually call him a narcissist). Sounds like a “secret non-disclosed transactional relationship” just of a different type. But that's the female version of the nice guy. Woman goes all out, gives a guy sex or whatever he wants woman thinks in her head that they are in a relationship, but never voices it and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:26 PM
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“Why didn’t you date Mark, he’s such a nice guy” “Eww he was only being nice to get into my pants”. Women only say that if you are inappropriate or not being respectful
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 04:00 PM
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"Nice guys" are assholes tbh. Or at-least very un-masculine men. How does a nice guy tm relate to masculinity? do u mean because they can't voice their feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:58 PM
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do that routine are average looking or ugly No, they hate that they get drawn into a nice thing for sexy things contract. Women have no issue platonically with most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:54 PM
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Usually when women want a relationship they voice it. They aren’t keeping it secret. Especially when sex is involved. I would say they do very obvious things to indicate it. But it's very different from nice guy actions because nice actions can be done with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:52 PM
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It has nothing to do with "consent," It is about consent because this expectation or arrangement was hidden from her. I'm not using it in the legal sense, but I use it because the woman feels scammed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:49 PM
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women assume the men knows she want a relationship and is interested romantically. Nope. Women do not see men as sexual beings in most cases unless a man specifically voices it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:18 PM
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No, women reject nice guys because they are low status, not attractive and are broke, with the delusion that their personality will make up for their low SMV. You are confusing low SMV with nice guys. See the nice guy subreddit and you will see what i mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:16 PM
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because they treat relationship like women do? Can you elaborate here ? The nice guy hasn't voiced he wants a relationship or is interested romantically . I don't see the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 02:42 PM
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You're more worried about thick thighs than the sexual assault of those "unsightly" women. Whataboutism You are deranged and a degenerate smdh Are you trolling ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 01:38 PM
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Not if it was in an entirely different country with entirely different rules, languages, customs, and cultures, I wouldn't. I mean Korea / Japan / Singapore have Amazon, netflix, same main websites like youtube, paypal, reddit etc. There's also way better public transit , public safety, public sanitation, than the USA. And more affordable health care. cannot go horribly horribly wrong, isn't hugely dangerous, and doesn't still include the very high probability of catching no fish or hating the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 04:13 AM
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the highest paid onlyfans girl kazumi's world. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5gNlRvR80E she makes $300k a month from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 11:36 PM
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It's like the more obese you are as a woman the more special you feel these days. Yup, that happens to
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 11:34 PM
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If you're fit, you benefit from the rarity of being fit just like the fit girls do. Fit isn't rare lol. Walk into any 24 hour or La fitness. But regardless of how small your pool is, if you're desirable within that pool, it won't be a problem. This is mathematically flawed. The smaller a pool of potential candidates the less choice and less chance you have of matching. The mistake you make is a.) people match equals b.) all people are even playing the match game In the tinder experiment i posted…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 11:33 PM
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The exact culture matters to an extreme. Even which country one is from matters. You really have a very little understanding of Asian culture. I'm convinced you are a troll from r/aznidentity . You are simultaneously referring to each different country then saying "Asian" culture. I likely know more history of the CPC then you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:47 PM

who live by Asian values Also not sure why you keep using the word Asian here. No two asian countries are the same. Japan hates China, Korea hates China, Korea hates Japan. So many rivalries and tough relations. Then there's the Philippines, etc. But anyways your one of those asian supremacists, so not surprised .
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:45 PM

Those families you speak of are not very Asian. Found the racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:42 PM
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not it gives us approximately 0 power whatsoever. Kazumi would like to have a word with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:40 PM
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How would hypersexualizing everyone encourage Monogamy? It would give men the tools and confidence to discover their own sexuality and choose a woman for monogamy that he likes the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:38 PM
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60% go out of their way to find someone from the same culture despite having a smaller pool of people. Cultural differences are real. I've only dated Chinese Americans or taiwanese Americans, but every girl's parents I met were thrilled I was a.) Jewish b.) made a high salary c.) went to a top school. I would say it's much easier to date Asians then say Blacks or Hispanics because the cultural difference is much wider.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:34 PM
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Monogamy is the foundation of modern society and without it, it furthers the destruction of the nuclear family that's taken place over the last 40 years. Absolutely correct. But part of the reason monogamy falls apart is when there's abnormal sexual development of men or women. There's so much confusion for kids these days around transgenderism, "choosing" a gender, and all that. There's no framework. So my solution is, make society as sexual as possible. In Taiwan they make deserts in shapes of…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:24 PM
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It's Shrodinger's feminism, women are simultaneously weak and frail and afraid and need help, or strong and empowered and don't need no man While this makes sense as a singular concept of "feminism", I have never seen the same group of women or same women use both sides. Generally women who play the victim are the social justice warrior types, aka social workers, psychologists, music therapists, etc. Basically they don't have a huge job or high earning job. Women who take the "strong and empower…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:17 PM
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The men shaming women on body count either have 0 bodies or have slept around a lot themselves. It's the zero bodies. As my N-count has gone up overtime I support women sleeping around more . It's better to be promiscuous, the world needs sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:13 PM
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I’m against it as an Asian woman unless you understand and accept all the responsibilities that come with our culture. If you are talking about me personally its more cause I loved the time I spent in China and Taiwan, love spicy food, hate most white people food, and in general I like that most Asian countries are against drugs and emphasize safety. But I was answering for what the average guy might think. Asians often date Asians for a reason even in the west. Around 40% of asian women marry n…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:11 PM
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Most women who might be a little overweight don’t look like that unless you live in a poorer smaller town/part of the city. are you not from the USA? The obesity rate even in NYC is 30%. Not sure how you can come to this conclusion unless you are in a different country.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 09:58 PM
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Assuming the same BMI, with women average 5-6 inches shorter than men, I imagine, on average, they ARE lighter. But the study showed women need to be a lower BMI on average for the marriage to be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:59 PM
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I'm not sure why knowing one out of every four women could be a prospect isn't enough/ No you don't get it. being a normal weight should be a default. When it's not the default, women feel special just for being a normal weight. So the standards of any looks is inflated. Men are never judged by the population, but by the minimum good standard. I cannot logically or realistically imagine a scenario in which it makes more sense to go to an entirely different continent, culture, language, lifestyle…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:57 PM
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"fit people bar" https://www.today.com/health/health/peloton-instructor-slams-disgusting-fat-shaming-comments-facebook-rcna49387 The mental gymnastics !! Peloton is literally an advocate for fat acceptance now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:52 PM
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https://www.foxnews.com/health/how-weight-can-tip-the-scales-of-your-marriage Women need to be lighter then men for a happy relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:51 PM
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Would you be against a guy passporting broing to Asia because he wants a larger pool of thinner women ? I mean 73% is a HUGE population, and there's like 15% morbid obesity too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:49 PM
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Don't date someone overweight. But that only leaves us with 27% of the options. Doesn't it make more sense to passport bro to Asia, if one is a healthy weight ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:48 PM
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Pear or hour glass shaped women can still be attractive to a wide range of men with a few extra pounds, and fitness level has less of an effect. Of course, I like those types of women myself. But often times though women end up like this https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/overweight-woman.html
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:47 PM
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97% of men are straight but gay guys don't have too much difficulty finding other gay guys to hook up with. That's because there's a thing called gay bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:46 PM
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Do you have a source to prove that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:44 PM
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This data is not great representation of the point you’re making. 20 and older could be 20-80, but how does this data represent the primary dating market(20s-30s). I linked this in a comment and it's in the CDC links of the source. 35% obesity in 25-35 age range, jumps to 40% after 35. While women tend to have a much better fat distribution, such as having it in the hips, thighs, breasts. That's only with genetics. That's not the default. Many women end up with large stomachs https://www.alamy.c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:43 PM
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also it's a good data on the reason for passport broing. Look at average weight in asia, lol. You don't need any other reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:26 PM
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Obesity rates are similar across genders. Most thin people date other thin people. If you're thin you shouldn't have too much more difficulty finding another thin person. 27% vs 73%. You don't think those two are different sized pools ? Also you assume weight is unevenly distributed in the population. There's no fat or skinny neighborhoods.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:25 PM
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The primary "dating market" is for people in their 20s and 30s though, and even within that age range, probably the 25th percentile and up, so while I imagine this has an effect, it's not as straightforward as it might seem. https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5787880659cc6802a0cf8d22/1527713858193-W8KGKVH7U3OOQEL7PWDS/Age+Group+Bar+Chart.png obesity is still at 35.5% for 25-35 age group. and it reaches the same as other age groups at 35+.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:24 PM
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It’s always a bit strange when this sub focuses on obesity in women rising when men are getting fatter at a similar rate. If both sexes are just slightly heavier than they were 20 years ago it’s not going to effect anything in the dating world. men aren't affected by extra pounds looks wise as much as women are at lower level of being over weight example, bmi 29 as a man https://www.reddit.com/r/Brogress/comments/fv6w3n/m2959_200lbs_to_160lbs_4_months/ bmi of 30 or so in a woman https://myprogre…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:22 PM
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given taxes are about 35% 65,000 with 0.5-1k for a bang is going to be very infrequent. It's going to need to drop to at max $200 or 150 to be reasonable on a semi-frequent basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 04:22 PM
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She spurted something about "sometimes people can have sex first and kiss later", but I was too far gone at that point, for some reason this whole kiss thing really threw me off my game. So some women actually do this as a way to not get attached in flings or hookups. I have seen it discussed a few times in a magazine before. You exchange bodily fluids less so you don't get as chemically attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:08 AM
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What kind of women do you know?! Women in the SF bay area. Some are ABGs, some are studying or working here from Asian countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:04 AM
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betabux are fed up and becoming passport bros. They are too busy chowing down and banging women to be concerned about western women anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:56 AM
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Since I'm on a college campus though, the girls I see may not be representative of most women. Yea college age doesn't have that much obesity. Most graphs I have seen for the ages 18-22 (college and not college educated) is like 15%, and even then its much more in the middle states. It jumps way up though at 25+
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:53 AM
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I didn’t passionately french kiss my partner on our first kiss, and turned my cheek on the first date, yet I would marry this guy tomorrow if he asked. Marriages are a poor indicator of spark or passion because they give women all the benefits. Child support, alimony, taking half the assets, no fault divorce. Do you have passionate sex now ? Do you swallow for him ? If so then I will admit you gladly proved me wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:48 AM

Men don't risk being pregnant. Pregnancy is inherently painful, risky, and can potentially give a woman physical issues for the rest of her life. Plan B pill and abortion . Yes men don't risk being pregnant but they risk legally being the father. Men are required to pay on average less than $500 a month in child support, and the majority of men aren't even paying what they owe in full. Nope, men or the non custodial parent always pay the greater share https://www.maritallaws.com/states/californi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:46 AM

didn’t disprove that women are multifaceted humans who live life and do not cease to function without men. Your statement is certainly correct. However being "single" is a little different for men and women. Women tend to still date and have flings while single. Men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:34 AM

Women are usually only happy being "single" AFTER already getting validated in dating/sex and deciding that they want to take a break from it. Women still have casual flings while single.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:32 AM

We get all the risks of sex and usually none of the benefits. Men and women have the same risks from sex, as long as child support laws are in place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:31 AM

so let me get this straight: a woman's 'single life' still means ocassionally getting dicked? It most certainly does.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:30 AM

True, I agree. As a guy I can say that even at 27 I have never touched a woman beyond a handshake. Get a passport Get a plane ticket to Thailand Enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:29 AM

at the in-laws purely to please her or her parents - fuck that. Thats selfish. Don't you care enough about a woman to get to know her family ? With asian girls this is actually an advantage though. If you get her family to like you it's a major plus for your relationship. With my last girlfriend she used to get me to talk and ask things from her parents lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:27 AM
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nor do they have to as some indicator of physical chemistry. While people can have different indicators of physical chemistry, they do have them. The problem with your stance is people can have no physical chemistry indicators, which is false. Like we can say if she doesn't swallow she's not that into him. Yea, maybe that's a bit more universal ,
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 12:31 AM
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yea i realized the right question is if she swallows or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:58 PM
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Ok view changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:49 PM
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fair enough, view changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:44 PM
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tongue your dick before French kissing you This is interesting, so you would legitimately, if you liked a man lot, blow him instead of french kissing ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:43 PM
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Yea I'm not religious sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:43 PM
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Succesful career. You can buy as much sex as you want and women loooove rich guys, even if they are not attractive. You cannot buy love, sure, but in this day and age it doesn't really exist anymore. But in most cases your going to need more than just $100k to do that in a really satisfying way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:42 PM
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Is $400k enough to make someone who looks like a potato attractive? I make $300k which will likely go even higher if i get my next promotion as a software engineer. The problem is it's not about amounts. It's about class. The thing about America or at least some areas is tons of people will still shops at the same stores less wealthy people do, thus the "middle to upper middle class" is very , very big. Getting to the true upper class is difficult , in some areas it's not possible to due the way…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:38 PM
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I am counting blow jobs and hand jobs as part of N count.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:33 PM
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ohhhh, yea in that case she's probably lost / not sure of herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:24 PM
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Tongues are gross. And when a guy can kiss passionately without just resorting to licking your tonsils, it's a much better kiss. Fair enough. Different people might like running hands through hair, etc. But we can approximate this instead as a "make out" Do you agree if a woman doesn't make out on the first kiss or hold it for say a good amount of time, she's not that into the guy OR needs more time to feel it out?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:13 PM
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Why are you so adamantly against the possibility that some women just don’t like tongue kissing? Because most people do tongue kiss eventually. That's a very standard activity. Only in this sub it's controversial lol. Some people have skat fetishes too. Doesn't mean that's any where near the ordinary.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:12 PM
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that you're going to feel something like that with someone you've just met unless you're faking it for the romantic fantasy. You are aware i said first kiss, not first date. You might not kiss until the sixth date, but when you do, it tests the waters of physical chemistry .
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:10 PM
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This isn’t even an insult but an observation. you do realize that an "observation" is an opinion, right ? Like saying "blacks are violent" could be considered an observation, but is still hate speech ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:08 PM
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I’m not making out unless I want it to led to the next thing. But would you agree if a woman does passionately kiss / make out, that means she does want to take it to the next level ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:07 PM
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but I don't think it's good to make blanket judgements about women who don't fit your type. This isn't making a judgement though. It's using chemistry as a measure of interest. We could make variations of it, like if the kiss lasts longer than X period of time, or who breaks it off first, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:06 PM
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For people arguing some don’t like tongue in general, it can be replaced with intimate grinding, moaning, aggressiveness etc. Yea if that's truly the case for a woman (meaning likes it with nobody), then one can measure how long the first kiss is or who breaks away first. In my experience, if i'm the one that breaks it off after a good 15-20 seconds, definitely means she's into me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:03 PM
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Women here are also agreeing with me. Maybe you should be more open to opinions of other women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:01 PM

using autism as an insult is a form of hate speech, just so you know
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:53 PM
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I like tongue kisses but i don’t do that on the first date, It's the first time you kiss, not the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:52 PM
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Attraction or interest =/= wanting to go further at that moment. A woman wouldn't want to go further if she wasn't passionately kissing a guy, so your argument is false since the contrapositive is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:51 PM
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this is only a kiss so being a slut or promiscuous should have nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:49 PM
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If your not that into the guy, then that makes perfect sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:49 PM
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Yea sample size of n=6 is really something wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:48 PM
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BlD0jg0F-NF/?hl=en she's 162 pounds, and 5'3" , that's 28.7 BMI the average bmi is 29.6 https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321003#:~:text=The%20BMI%20of%20the%20average,trend%20for%20the%20nation's%20health. so she's even still thinner than the average american woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:45 PM
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It's very standard to assume passionate kissing is a sign of sexual attraction. But who knows, the west has gone so hay wire these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:42 PM
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I don’t understand why OP doesn’t get how weird of an assumption that is So assuming that passionate kissing is a sign of sexual attraction is weird ? Lord, this is why passport bros exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:39 PM
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Assuming that a woman wants to have sex with you at that very moment because she kisses you passionately is a very good way to never see her again. Hasn't been my experience at all. Seems like you are just trying to say things for the sake of them to confuse men, or aren't arguing in good faith .
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:38 PM
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My first kiss with my bf was an awkward peck because we were both too nervous to properly go for it (and we were in public so I obviously wasn’t going to start going for it). Some of y’all need to chill. I'm not really talking about teenagers but none the less that's a good counter point to my view.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:35 PM
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Too much tongue feels so gross as an initial kiss. It gives me the ick real quick. Like it's the kissing equivalent of sticking it in with no foreplay But that sounds like bad kissing. You don't just jam your tongue in there. You start with lips and ease in.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:34 PM
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What if she is really really into you but because of this she's shy/nervous? Ok that's an excellent point. hmmmm, if it was due to inexperience, you definitely got me there. Outside of that though i would be skeptical. What if she thinks she will get carried away and it's too soon? I mean unless she's religious I don't see how this isn't just a way of saying she's not interested. Remember this is not first date, it's first kiss. It could happen on the sixth date even. Don't men prefer low N wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:33 PM
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I want sex right then and there just because we have a passionate first kiss Oh to be clear i don't mean you instantly want PIV, i mean open to going further, like to second base. Like obviously women need foreplay etc. I'm on the larger side too so trust me i get it when women need time to "open up" no pun intended.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:29 PM
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Are you allowing at all for the possibility that she may be inexperienced with kissing and has no idea what the fuck is going on No because I am 28 and dont date teenagers lol. But sure if we considered teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:15 PM
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Some people don’t like tongue kissing. False. Or extreme outliers. like 1 in 100,000 rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:05 PM
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Still doesn’t mean what you think it means. I know fully what it means though. Women don't like to admit when they are horny because they are judged for it. I know that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:05 PM
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You can't kiss someone passionately the first time because you barely know each other. Of course you can. Not sure what your culture is like but this happens all the time. You don't need to know someone at all for chemistry to be there or not. You only need to know someone to feel more safe around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:03 PM
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liking someone isn't really the same as chemistry. chemistry is a straight up spark of excitement. A kiss is a test of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:01 PM
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Okay, but you would probably fall into these categories then woman accepts kiss but doesn't let tongues touch, only inner lips -> unsure about him, needs more time to feel things out woman accepts kiss, lets tongues touch, but doesn't extend her tongue into his mouth -> good chemistry, but not too high of spark, more lovey feelings I don't see what you are disagreeing with, these mean u like him but need more time to feel things out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:57 PM
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I’m making out with them that it’s “very likely” that I want it to “go further to sex at that very moment” It's not just making out, its the intense version, with the hand on the back of head with tongues going in and out, maybe even with a little moaning. See the chart i made.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:55 PM
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Some women have rules where they don't kiss the guy on the first date. It's the first kiss, not the first date. It could be on the 6th date even.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:51 PM
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and your like " okay so this is done" It's more like she feels that way then the man does. Why do you think tongue kissing isn't a sign of chemistry ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:51 PM
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Nobody wants to french kiss for their first kiss. That's not true obviously. I hate it when men use too much tongue. Doesn't mean I'm not attracted to him I just think tongues taste like wet paper mache and I don't like it. So do you ever like tongue kissing , even during sex ? Are there other ways you express chemistry physically ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:44 PM
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Ick. I'm a guy and I don't even want to kiss women I barely know on the first date, This is about the first kiss, not the first date. The first kiss could be on the fifth or sixth date. Or the tenth. The point is the first kiss is the true test of chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:31 PM
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Why before the weight gain ? Average woman in USA is overweight / obese
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:30 PM
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No it isn’t a sign that she’s DTF. It's for sure not consent of course, but it's a very likely indicator she wants sex. Women do not go to strange mens homes and drink for no reason, they are not stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:27 PM
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Number Two doesn't know what she wants. OP doesn't know what he wants. A woman going over to a stranger's house from a swiping app and drinking is very likely DTF. Also asking to kiss indicates lack of awareness of a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:09 PM
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OP, i think the problem is likely you dont feel comfortable being intimate with women or are unsure about it. The reason i say this is if you kiss a woman and she's avoiding tongue / switching to a peck / breaking it off quickly without reason, it means there's no spark there. But sometimes this can be promoted by a lack of self esteem . For the second woman, this part sticks out to me. Matched with a woman and she comes over for wine and board games. She very clearly isn't looking for a hookup,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:08 PM
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Disagree. I know feminist media loves to portray all women as bad ass ball busters who run private equity firms and bench 300 pounds, but in reality women do crave and need male attention to some degree. So men do have a control over that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 05:10 PM
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I thought humility was supposed to be attractive If you are going for asians then yes, more so if they are immigrants But outside of that , no.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:44 PM
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blonde + blue eyes + white and thick is at least an 8 or should be to be reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 06:25 AM

I don't think you understand, when I mean remarkable it means you get attention in public just for being tall. It's also called the "looking up" effect. In my experience you need to be at least 6'5" to get women just for your height in spite of everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:33 AM
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He's 6'2", while certainly tall, nothing remarkable population wise. The average height in the NBA is 6'6".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:03 AM
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You can actually give yourself permission to act confidently and like an alpha male right now, you don't need justification. You don't need achievement. You are already who you are. You have achieved being you. The problem is psychologically you need to convince yourself that you can be confident. Barring mental disorders, we cannot instantly switch our thoughts. We have to do certain things to convince ourselves of it. In a basic manner, fear exists because we cannot simply be unafraid. We have…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:10 AM
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For non-psychopaths, confidence is a strong sign of competence, which is why it is attractive. It's not about psychopaths. It's about ignorance. Stockton Rush is a good example of a very confident , incompetent man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:06 AM
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If you needed your car brakes fixed, would you rather have a highly confident car mechanic who didn't know wtf he was doing? Or a competent one who could get the job done? I'd rather choose the latter than die in a fiery car crash when my brakes don't work. Any form of engineering has zero respect in the west . Look at all the flak zuckerberg gets, or most engineers do. Nobody even knows who invented the email. Mean while there's whole groups of Chinese tourists worshipping the facebook sign in …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:03 AM
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he’s tall, 6'2", while good, not that remarkable to be a game changer in and of itself. isn’t fat or skinny, This is the default , "average" . It's neutral. his face is fine (nothing remarkable either way), Are you a woman ? What do you think of his facial hair? he’s confident, clearly has ambition, charisma and a work ethic - add to that he’s financially successful, has social clout and connections, gives to charity…So what is so surprising about a man like that being attractive to attractive w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:00 AM
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What male issue is not being taken seriously at university? Lack of sex
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 01:45 AM
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It's not really my view either, but I was trying to view it on a global wide scale , white blonde, blue eyes, thick, ( at least the ex girlfriend)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 01:42 AM
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Just get 500 million dollars. There's probably ways to get that easier than becoming mrbeast. Maybe the CIA has secret bounties hehe
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 01:36 AM
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I mean ordinary as in no college degree no genetic lottery winner no wealthy background Sure he has a talent for videos, but that's sort of a discovered thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 01:32 AM
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For one, escorts ive spoken too actually refused to do the "go on dates a few times" thing. They demanded money, for sex, or else nothing. They even told me no kissing, no handholding, etc. You need to go to Thailand or SE Asia for this experience. You can get a girl for a whole day or more with enough money and she will do all the lovey stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:58 AM
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But the key part is he was an ordinary dude. Not an athlete, not an inheritance, not smart, Does this mean guys who are struggling with dating should become content creators?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:55 AM
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So l just searched and his a popular figure on YouTube Lol did u not read the post? he has the most youtube subscribers of anyone on earth. He buys people teslas for fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:54 AM

to take advantage of women from poor areas, or who didn't have the education that the people in your video Education has nothing to do with being able to be taken advantage of or not. Some of the highest profile rape / sexual assault cases come from the most prestigious universities like Brock Turner and Stanford You are just looking for a rationalization of why passport broing is somehow an embodiment of these problems, but its a black and white fallacy. Men will look for women to take advantag…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:21 AM

are really poor and look for women to take advantage of, who don't know any better you really need to stop speaking for people from other countries https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wboL5GXlUig
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 11:42 PM

and not just one person claiming their personal experience is an experiment now. Are chemists mixing new compounds not doing experiments because it's just them doing it ? Look, I do get where you are coming from, but problem is this isn't at all a serious debate sub. I have posted studies with samples sizes of 30-40k people and many come up with excuses like "7 years ago is too old" or "not enough sample size".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 11:40 PM
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There's a sizable population of Korean Christians in the USA, but besides that, yea mostly Philippines are christian
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 05:14 AM
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understandable but “overweight” BMI can even be in really fit muscular women Sure, but I think what you mean is something like this https://www.instagram.com/p/Cuia8b_sYLI/ which is hot, but by medically overweight i mean they look like they would show up in weight loss commercials , maybe like https://t4.ftcdn.net/jpg/03/07/18/87/360_F_307188709_VnmyfKpYdX8kcEeOCbkeabxIAkMRLW1g.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:10 AM
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However, I'm curious if you actually checked the nationality of the matches you got from Singapore and Taiwan. Yes, the vast majority in Singapore were of Chinese ethnicity , either Singapore citizens or PRC nationals. There were. a chunk of Malay girls too, with some Indians as well. Taiwan was ,mostly taiwanese and also a chunk of thai women (seems to be them studying there)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:45 AM
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The average American woman is 5'4 / 170lbs The person u replied to is a British man in the UK speaking about American women who moved to the UK or American women teaching abroad in former British colonies. Likely a very different crowd of American then back home at IHOP lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:42 PM
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You're telling a sexless guy who has issues with other cultures In my experience, its rare these two things both exist in the same guy in the context of the USA or a western nation. "Issues with other cultures" generally is people who are big on drugs, guns, prison reform, or fat acceptance (meaning tess holiday level) They have extreme behaviors that wouldn't really be accepted in other cultures. sexless or near sexless men tend to be men who haven't well fit into the current culture in some wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:20 PM
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can we stop arguing ? Now that Sweden and Finaldn have joined NATO, we are all one big family. If anyone attacks one of us it means war for us all. Now it's time to work together to topple Putin !!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:06 PM
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Just because someone was born in a poor country doesn’t mean they don’t have similar views and values. Yea, the Philippines was a colony of the USA for like 50 years, and a lot of them have a very high opinion of the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:03 PM
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Have you here of Philip Scott on youtube ? He has a lot of videos about passport broing for black guys and also guys of all races, but he has good examples of black men doing well in thailand / philippines
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:01 PM
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Very fair points. I might do another study with Bumble or Hinge as a comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:43 PM
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It's not socialist in the stalinist or fundamental sense but elements of sweden like Systembolaget alcohol rules or the anti-flying movement will make it feel very socialist. What I mean is, in China you can see a gucci / chanel store below some banner displaying the communist party symbol. It's laughable . A place can be culturally socialist or capitalist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:16 PM
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and i guess the downside to passporting is that some people want a partner who's like them, same race, same culture, etc Thats valid but thats still possible for non white men. I have heard of Black guys going to African nations to find women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:30 PM
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Why do you doubt it ? Singapore is largely modeled after the west. ITs official language is English, all the apps / movies they watch are from the USA. Their government and military are modeled after western nations. Look in singapore subs and asks how ang moh do there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:29 PM
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The worst are the Finns. have to keep warm somehow
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:18 PM
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For some reason some men have deluded themselves into thinking Asian women are subservient and docile. Correct but asian women are more comfortable being feminine and cute then western women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:05 PM
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Sweden seems like it's getting it right. Plot twist, only 1 store company can sell alcohol in the whole country and you need to wait in line for hours to purchase alcohol from that 1 store.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:42 PM
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I wonder if something about your profile was particularly off putting to western women, and attractive to Asians. Shower thoughts on this: Some western women don't like "cute" culture, while Asians love it. It might be the picture of the capybara + koala that might tilt toward Asians.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:37 PM
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His profile without even seeing it comes off corny. I swipe left on anything like that you don't like capybaras ?!?!? :o
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:32 PM
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If he's referring to SF (my city), I do believe him. SF has a raver culture thats very popular with Asians, and there's a decent chunk of Asians which want to date other Asians.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:22 PM
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Depends though, Women like this https://www.instagram.com/p/CVnoyz8hKft/ might be slightly in the overweight BMI category
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:17 PM
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But to toss out women who are “medically overweight” is pretty shallow. A piece of paper could say a woman is overweight by the BMI test but that test is not accurate at all. Medically overweight here means where a woman looks unhealthy or "whale" like. I am actually more into thicker / curvy women on average. Like even this woman https://www.instagram.com/emmahaggstrom/ is pretty attractive in my view. The woman I would reject are sort of like tess holiday https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:14 PM
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I have my Indian bf (I'm also Indian) Yea that comment you replied to is salty. All my managers at work in the USA have been indian , would really love to visit !
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:03 PM
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Russian women are something else. Even the daughters of the old farts in the kremlin are stunning https://twitter.com/B52Malmet/status/1504892775808086018
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:59 PM
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If you're rich enough to fly around multiple countries This is a tinder experiment with the passport feature. I didn't leave my house to do this. You must have a personality no one can stand. saltiness detected. Why would a rescue a woman from a brothel when i can match with educated, beautiful women in Singapore or Taiwan?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:14 PM
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Your responding to a British guy speaking about American women who moved to Britain, probably a very different crowd then whats native in the states.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:06 PM
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as he hinted about a bias against Americans - and I think it would be helpful to know if the bias (as far as it even exists) is against Americans or more Middle-eastern looks. I don't think it's racial bias. I think it's bias against traditional gender roles or wealth. A swedish woman explain elsewhere in the comments here. The pic of me in the suit and in the biz class seat might have put them off. Sweden is unique as both a liberal and socialist nation compared to the rest of Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:48 PM
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singapore: the area around singapore is poor and it might be that poor women are setting their location to singapore. and maybe they easily can get to singapore for a date. i'm not sure how the border work there. Nearly all the women i matched with in Singapore were either Singaporean citizens or PRC nationals. if you're goal is to get married, no, i don't think you should passport brro. So marry a whale from the USA instead? lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:44 PM
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Passport bird treat people like meat, I think u are confusing andrew tate for a passport bro. Passport bro is just men moving abroad for love.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:37 PM
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I don't get why people are challenging you . Most Americans at least do not know anything about Sweden beyond whats at Ikea or Alfred Noble. Sheeh, i apologize for them in advance on my behalf :(
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:36 PM
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You seem to be defining success solely in terms of short-term results on OLD. Because that's an excellent indicator of how someone will do in the dating market. And it's the only way to easily quantify it. In many cases they bring her to the U.S., she feels lonely and isolated due to not being able to speak the language Did you even read my post ? The official language in Singapore is English, Singapore is wealthier than the USA (yet they still love hollywood movies and democracy), and I haven't…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:49 AM
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Would you mind posting the Tinder bio you used? "The best thing in life is accomplishing something you once thought was impossible" And the option for relationship "looking for short term, open to long term" an attractive gf with a great personality It could be that the USA tends to have higher standards for casual sex, and tinder is more used for casual sex, where Asian countries might not view tinder as strictly for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:44 AM
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A software engineer just needs to know how to communicate in whatever programming language he's using, aside from that maybe send some emails to the internal team and attend zoom meetings with the camera off. Your using a stereotype to prove your point. I zoom with customers several times a week to diagnose issues in their environment lol. Also meet with sales engineers, product managers, etc. But again, in the USA, people go by feels, not what creates a better life or future. Looks are valued e…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:38 AM
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All those fancy degrees and you still don't know how to make a valid inference. An n of 1 does not an experiment make. Neither does "testing" something let you make inferences about something else This is an N of 5000 . Did you not read my post ? If you aren't interested in challenging my view please do not comment here, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:14 AM
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Given the nature of the professions Joe is less likely to be socially awkward than Henry as well so he's already up on looks and personality. Social takes different meanings for different people. America is full of drugs, so a lot of socialization revolves around them. Singapore and many asian countries are drug free societies , so socialization values different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:12 AM
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I don't get how you base your conclusions on dating in the west as a whole based off possibly two of the worst cities to date in. NY and LA are only topped by Miami in that category imo. Can you elaborate on why these cities are the worst for dating ? Cities generally offer the most people, which is why I chose them for this experiment. However it's not necessary. Personally I'm a highly educated, high earning, healthy weight man and I found love in the states (with someone I find attractive and…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:08 AM
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I wonder if Singaporeans use Tinder more to find relationships while westerners use Tinder just for hookups and Hinge for relationships. Tinder, Bumble, Hinge, CMB are the most popular ones. Most of the ones I matched with in Singapore said they are open to short term relationship or long term relationship. Not many said short term fun. Only 5's and 6's in New York? That's what you'd expect for casual only There were three 8's and one 9, but all were immigrants (three were korean, one was brazil…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:05 AM
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LOL did u confuse Taiwan and Thailand ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:57 AM
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top tier guys shouldn't struggle in the west either, so its a matter of personal preference In the abstract, yes, but culture warps what is the top tier. Joe the personal trainer at 24 hour fitness with an amazing physique is more recognized as top tier than Henry the tall software engineer who went to a top school in the USA. But flipped in Asia or possibly other places too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:53 AM
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that is desperate enough to sleep with you for money? Taiwan is a first world country. Even makes most of world's semiconductors
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:44 AM
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8’s and 9’s in Taiwan don’t exist, Oh my, someones triggered. you can’t get women in your own is rather pathetic. Sour grapes are here I see. I just said I can get them, but I can get 10x as many in other countries. What are you xenophobic ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:06 AM

Oh yea, for sure. Those are excellent too. I just didn't want people to claim it's for a green card / money too much in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:01 AM
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Did you read my post ? We are talking what is the best option. I did match with some 5's and 6's . in NY. But it's nothing to compare to the 8's and 9's in Taiwan and Singapore.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:00 AM
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I was surprised by singapore since it's a wealthy country. Singapore is unique because its modeled after the west in many ways. Official language is English, almost all the cinema / music is from the USA / Hollywood, all the services / social media is the ones made in USA. But there's very few white people in Singapore. So these factors plus asians valuing education / smarts over power the wealth aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:59 AM
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you can actually score white women a couple of points above your own level just because single white men in Sing and HK who aren't just dating Asians are a scarce resource for them. This is interesting, didn't think of this before. Definitely will try this out next time I am in Singapore (hopefully moving there for a job but lets see)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:46 AM
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where I feel like people are into me just because I'm "exotic" in comparison to local men A lot of intense attraction women have to men takes forms of that though. Things like huge ripped / tall athletes, gangsters with tattoos, represent a form of exotic nature. Women often need a story or narrative about men to be really drawn to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:42 AM
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ohhh ok so you are in the UK, referring to American women in the UK ? Then you might have a bit of an advantage for being the Brit those women might have come to the UK for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:39 AM
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For the record when you control for weight white American women can be very attractive. Easily among the top of the western countries. I can agree to that or see where you are going, I personally overall like non whites better. I'm also in my 30s so I'm looking for something serious and I don't want to settle down with someone non white. Have you had an easy or hard time finding gorgeous white women in America ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:27 AM
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Also note: while it's not possible to weigh people in a picture, the metric i used here is any woman with a large stomach or noticeably large fat accumulation in the abdomen would be considered too overweight or obese, like https://as1.ftcdn.net/v2/jpg/02/41/69/66/1000_F_241696679_jOBBQKLxTZtVR0lwPPj7gaJCMiDulrtK.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:23 AM
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Pietro Boselli https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Apex_fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:07 AM
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Nobody is taught to date. Women are taught to date though cosmopolitan magazines.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:50 PM
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She knows within 5 seconds of looking at you if she’s attracted to you, this cannot be built, forced, or changed. You are confusing initial openness to chemistry. Yes, within first 5 seconds a woman considers if she is "possibly interested" in going further with you. But there's still divets and bumps along the way to intercourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:50 PM
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Popular sports in the rest of the world seem to be slightly more suitable for normal-sized people. Yup. Then you look at Asian countries, Thailand with Muay Thai , or China / Japan with Table tennis, the greatest players in those , Buakaw and Ma Long, at 5'9". Above average for the population but proportional. Lebron James is 6'9". That's almost a foot taller than the average american guy at 5'9"-5'10". Shaq is 7'2". Yao Ming was 7'6". and yea NFL players are insane tanks. 6'1" but 320 pounds ? …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:41 PM
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ronaldo and kane are 6'2", zlatan is 6'4" i believe. Tall guys for sure, but not giants. https://www.espn.com/soccer/team/squad/_/id/364/liverpool But the average height for pro football teams for soccer i mean is a lot lower than the average height of the NBA (6'6") or the NFL (6'3")
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:26 PM
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A direct approach has no plausible deniability . "Hello there, I noticed you look really handsome from a distance and thought to come over and chat"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:19 PM

Become a passport bro, problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 09:08 AM
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Congrats on NATO membership. Glad to have sweden in the alliance !
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:03 AM
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The problem with America is the sports culture. You have both the NBA and NFL which host giants and play them on national television and make them celebrities. Meanwhile Europe is mostly footballers which are closer to reasonable body sizes. Look at Messi.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:51 AM
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lol sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:53 AM
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Just look at the past 5 threads on this topic in the. past week here. Find 1 thread where passport bros say they don't want women showing skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:40 AM
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still mostly best friend and platonic (except for the 2 quickies but ...) When you say quickie u mean a sexual quickie ? Like 10 minute sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:50 PM
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I have had close female friends but they were always women that would acknowledge me as a cool / fun / attractive guy in some way. It's hard to describe it in words, but I wouldn't be friends with a woman who was repulsed or intensely repelled by the idea of me as a sexual being.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:45 PM
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I think you are making up a false group of people that do not exist. passport bros are all over youtube partying with hot thai or columbian women wearing sexy outfits at clubs lol. Just take a stroll through bangkok sukhumvit at night and you see tons of women wearing sexy outfits. Men with an issue with women wearing revealing clothing are in the religious world or converting to islam, not passporting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:40 PM
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It means that your league are obese women. Date them. If the population is unbalanced then thats a population and location problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:36 PM
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increasingly absolutely nothing in a western world without third places and technological dependency. What does the west have to do with it ? Note: I am all for passport bros , but curious how does location relate to putting yourself out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:33 PM
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You have to define what does struggle as dating mean , and what is a reasonable standard. Omaha, NE, you are 5'9'', not fat, in your early 30s, white, and not bald. Nebraska is over 61% obese . So if a person who is not even fat is struggling in Nebraska, then they are not below average, they are above average but competing amongst a smaller dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:32 PM
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any man getting approached is probably in a league of his own Women do not directly approach. This is the key thing. They look for a way to start a conversation about some random ass topic, but you have to have the game / skill to carry it and match their expectations. One time on the bus back from SF, a gorgeous woman sitting next to me suddenly asked me what I was coding on my laptop (had it out on my lap), and then a bit later she was telling me she was going to go check out this bar right by…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:19 PM
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No. I’ve never had a friend like that where it did not at some point become not platonic. But were these friends that became romantic relationships, or they were friends that were then later rejected?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:46 PM
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The second one developed feelings for me and ghosted when I didnt reciprocate. And women say men should stay friends with a woman after they reject him.... such hypocrisy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:42 PM
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You do realize there are massive groups of people who claim gender, sexuality, and more is all a social construct right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:12 PM
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2 for sure. 4 is good too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:09 PM
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I’m a little bigger than the middle bottom but with same breast size (all natural) and it hurts to hear that we’re perceived as unattractive just because we have a little tummy. little tummy is always fine lol. the upper limit of curvy is higher than whats shown here for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 06:13 AM
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curvy hands down. my favorite: https://www.instagram.com/p/CuW_RLwR7Rl/?img_index=1
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 06:01 AM
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but 90%+ of women don’t want anything to do with a 9-10 inch penis, at that size it’s literally worthless other than for porn. Tell yourself whatever you need to bro ​ https://www.popbuzz.com/celeb/pete-davidson-penis-size-how-big-length/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 02:49 PM

I never been to the bay area bro. I don't know what you're talking about. Good, do not come here , unless you want dating to suck for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 02:36 PM

Think of the usual dynamic in bay area. It's not like her job would be something most guys would have trouble with per se You forget must tech companies have sales and finance guys which are considered more suave and suitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 02:36 PM

Are you saying a man who freaks out about his wife working in a male dominated field and insists on keeping her at home is not a controlling lunatic? That's like 2/3 of the world's population lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 02:33 PM
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It was her second time having sex in her life. Inexperienced girls can't really be prepared for that lol That proves my point even more. See a woman who would be scared or anxious about sex would be paranoid about sex with an average penis. But the moment she saw his massive dong, she salivated and opened her kitty for his pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:49 AM

My own relationship started as "friends with benefits", Friends with benefits aren't really the same as situationshops. FWB has a discussed state of things, situationships are undiscussed . They are just casual sex plus dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:48 AM

OP, you are over thinking this. Situationship is a term for women who are sharing a chad to feel like they are actually in a relationship with him when they aren't. It's a severe cognitive dissonance from what is truly happening, casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:47 AM

A situationship though is just a cognitive dissonance of having casual / uncommitted sex. While labeling is frivolous, the choice of it being similar in structure to relationship shows women are trying to disguise casual sex as relationships or pretend they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:44 AM
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The data doesn't note how many of the users use height filter. Naturally women who care less about height may not use it at all. Possibly 99% of women care about height https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/after-service/201909/5-reasons-why-women-and-men-care-about-height Women consistently show in many studies strong height preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:33 AM
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This is real data released by bumble. Unless you can prove it's fake, this is a pointless case to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:30 AM
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Do you think it's common for men to be rejected before sex but after their partner saw them naked? Or that women somehow have x-ray vision and can see who has a big penis before deciding to hook up? I mean when you make out and a guy gets hard a girl can feel how big it is roughly. Also the guy might have said he has a huge one
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:28 AM
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For like 20 seconds, not even getting close to any kind of finish mam that's an N-count, it don't matter if it was 1 second. She literally rejected him Men with average penis sizes aren't rejected by getting 20 seconds inside lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:08 AM
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even though it'd be a number fewer women prefer. I'm not saying that's the case, just that you cannot tell women's favored height from this data. I can see why you came to this idea, but mathematically this would only be the case if the graph was a hill / pyramid shape, where both the sides are more or less equal in angle. But that's not the case at all. The entire graph is heavily concentrated to one side of the most popular included height. This means the ranges women chose are most ranging on…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:06 AM
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I love when people here use data from dating apps when it’s a known fact that most women aren’t on dating apps. Bumble has 50 million active users and 3:1 male to female ratio. https://helplama.com/bumble-revenue-usage-statistics/#:~:text=Bumble%20revenue%20amounted%20to%20%24903.5,of%20Bumble%20users%20are%20female. So around 13 million women. https://www.statista.com/statistics/241488/population-of-the-us-by-sex-and-age/ There's around 30 million women in the USA between the ages of 20-35, whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 07:59 AM
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how she met up with a guy from an app, he had a very big penis, they tried to have sex but she couldn't He got to stick his penis in her vagina. That's not rejection lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 07:56 AM
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But see "upper limit" means like who you would auto-reject or turn down because of that. For example, weight is obviously there a point on either end a guy will just reject a woman if she's 300+ or under 90 pounds. Or like, the number of guys who would turn down this woman https://www.instagram.com/p/Ct89_9AouGh/ is a lot higher than guys who would turn down a DD cup woman. Now, compared to women, I have never seen a man been auto-rejected or rejected fast for being too tall. I would imagine a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 06:14 AM
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It's not a fucking "strawman" to call that out. You used the words, not me. Did I trigger you ? What you did is exactly a strawman. You used a concept that doesn't exist that makes the argument easy to disprove. But this argument was never about 4 foot long penises. I recommend reading on what a strawman is so you can engage in debate in a more effective manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:34 AM
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It’s also key to factor in that Bumble is kind of elite-y That's true. I noticed bumble has this "boss babe" or "founder babe" feel to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:31 AM
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80% of women on one dating app who cared enough about height to use filters for it. Bumble has 50 million users in 2023, and almost all women use height filters. You are really playing mental gymnastics here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:30 AM
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At 6’6 it starts found down. Hence there’s an upper limit. But everyone from 6'11" to 6'6" is still more selected than the 6' guy. That's the point. And why does it matter if it’s metics like weight or height or metrics lien “HB 10” face and body vs “HB 6” face and body? Because the number of women who a man would consider a 9 or 10 is much much higher than the 6'6" man. Let's do the math. https://johnmjennings.com/how-many-people-are-7-foot-tall/ 6'6" height is in the 99.89% in height for 19 ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:12 AM
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Women don't want four foot long penises. Are you straw manning here ? It's obvious there's no 4 foot penises, but there's definitely a large amount of women who like 9-10 inch penises for sure https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b1a779582f4d816153866f2689b57278-lq . Also most dildos are made large. If you took even half a second to think about it you'd have realized it before you made it. Did you not see my bumble source?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:58 AM
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The heights taper off after 6’5ish becaus There's not really a taper off though until 7 feet. The 6'11" guy was still more included than the 6 foot guy by like 7 %. and every man puts the upper limits of 9s and 10s as opposed to 6s 7s and 8s? A 9 or 10 for a man in most cases is subjective and not defined in quantitative traits. For example if men like fake boobs, there's an upper limit to what gets the most appeal, and it comes sooner than later likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:56 AM
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as an example, i have been told by most of my male friends https://www.instagram.com/p/CoSHB09p8ll/?img_index=1 this woman's hips are too wide for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:29 AM

Any healthy weight, average height guy who's an above average earner has no reason not to be a passport bro. Literally no comparison in terms of options if a man earns good money and isn't fat , abroad vs the USA
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 03:36 AM
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This is tricky because generally being strikingly attractive at 30+ for a woman requires cosmetic enhancement . Similar to your example of top OF earners , Cardi B and Blac Chyna both have excellent surgeries / cosmetic enhancemnets. I live in what would be considered a high COL area and have mostly high earning friends (think Facebook / Google , tech engineers + managers, or doctors), women can definitely look better at 32 than 21 but it requires good genes + surgery or filler.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 02:32 AM
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The black women in porn are probably with bbl's and super small waists, very different than the average black women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 02:08 AM
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OP, as someone who has used prostitutes overseas several times, I disagree because a lot of American men view sex from a puritanical perspective. Instead of viewing sex as a sensation, experience, or thrill, they view it as a moral condition where it has to be met with certain conditions or else it' s "not real since he's getting paid for it". It's like comparing a home-cooked meal to an expensive dinner with premium ingredients. Both are great in their own ways. That's the issue. A lot of men h…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:01 PM
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Anyone who has to entertain others to make $ hates the people they entertain. So every singer or movie star hates their fans ? This is a slippery slope, by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:50 PM
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Nope. It's an American thing. Look at perhaps the two most famous gay men in the world: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/dec/17/designer-stefano-gabbana-tired-labelled-gay
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:44 PM
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close male friendships with deep emotional bonds are inherently “gay”. This is only possible when people stop flying rainbows and pride balloons everywhere. The countries where this actually happens is where you don't have huge gay cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 05:18 PM
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Why is 4 and 5 bad ? A woman who's older and keeping herself in shape and beautiful is emphasizing femininity. It looks like FDS is right, You cannot prove Lauren is doing anything FDS is suggesting. I have actually seen FDS suggest against plastic surgery or dressing slutty at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 04:23 PM
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sexualizing themselves to random men is not girlfriend material. Are you a muslim ? Going to the gym and working out is keeping your body feminine, not sexualizing yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 04:20 PM
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I think the issue is, people often talk about equality and incomes etc, but thats been around for a long time. I mean since the 1980's women have had their own careers and stuff. The real difference in the last 10-15 years is social media. Social media has allowed more young people to communicate ideas about fat acceptance, feminism, equality, etc. This allowed young people to have their own media ecosystem and promote more progressive and feminist ideas, more so than major news paper outlets or…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:48 PM
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Men and women no longer need each other, so there is no rush to jump into a relationship. People can pursue education, careers, or hobbies they want. But this has been the case since the 1980's . Why are we seeing more changes in the last 10 years or so ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:43 PM

Men are not being demonized, human and sex trafficking is. Male sex workers are also more protected under this law but do to demographics, women are more likely to benefit. Male sex workers that are not trans women do not exist in the USA. Also this law doesn't all men to report battery or assault or theft by a female sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:39 PM

OP, I agree that legalizing selling sex but not buying it is misandry, but maine doing it is not intended to be misandry on any effective level. The only thing maine is known for is lobsters. But it's a "liberal" state. So a lesser known liberal / blue state is trying to get more national recognition by doing something "woke". They aren't doing it to have some wide influence over men. Cause nobody goes to maine for shit lol. Now, if California did this ? That would be a much bigger thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:36 PM

How many prostitutes have other avenues to earn an income so they won’t be robbed, abused and beaten by clients? All of them. Any of them can get a job at the grocery store or walmart. There's record labor shortages across the nation because people dont want to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:33 PM

Buyers have little to no risks and adversities from buying sex while sellers have many. Buyers can be scammed, they can get an STD, they can get robbed by the provider, etc. list goes on. Also crime is not determined by risk but determined by law. There's no precedent for say decriminalizing bank robbery for say undocumented immigrants.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:32 PM
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sounds like a heavy contradiction to me. Think of it like this. If I have casual sex with a woman, I am not losing anything or trading anything except bodily fluids at most. I am using myself to get sex. If I have sex with a sex worker, I am losing monetary value . Any man, fat, old, etc. can trade that monetary value with the sex worker. But casual sex can only be had if you as a person are worthy of it. I don't trust that, just compare relationships with friendships, your friends aren't going …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:13 PM
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Let's think about the contrapositive and focus on the "unprompted" part. You are saying women don't like cat calling because it's unprompted. Now, see the video of the woman I linked in my OP. A gorgeous, sexy model. She leans over and sticks her bottom out in the bar stool. If she did that with a man sitting next to her, no man would call this "unprompted". The concept of cat calling being negative doesn't exist for men, thus the contrapositive to your argument also doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:07 PM
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Were you incapacitated by this incident or disabled by it ? Or did you make a full recovery from it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:57 PM
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Unconditional love does exist. The mistake you make here is you assume a person cannot change, which they most certainly can. "Unconditional" refers to being based on a person, rather than a condition. If a person changes, love can change, because that person is not the same. there are conditions like: work on your looks, work on your confidence, be masculine/feminine, These are part of a person and who they are. If someone gains 300 pounds or switches genders , that person has changed. have a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:25 PM
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But we arent really talking about how much kissing and how much sex these men are getting, we are talking about what women find attractive. Nooooo this is the whole point of my post. Women can find things attractive yet develop no sexual thoughts or desires about said man. This is the most important part. Men do not make this separation, women do. This is why I talk about "stimulation" more than attractiveness. And swipes are a great indication, especially if those men only had shirtless pics. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:16 PM
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As a woman I like getting sent sexual photos of other women and men. So you are saying, that a random dude say on social media, sending you a pic of his penis, turns you on and makes you want that penis in real life? The difference is women like consent regarding these things and would prefer to be able to say yes or no to sexual advances. The very reason you need to say yes or no is because women are not sexually stimulated by the picture itself. This is the key point here. This is because wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:12 PM
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Explain why women hate getting dick pics then ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:09 PM
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It leads to a recurring misunderstanding that women are not sexual or capable of finding things physically attractive in the same way. Women don't at all find things attractive in the same way . That's true. If it wasn't women would love having dick pics in their DMs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:40 PM
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men on dating apps that show nothing but their shirtless photos getting a very large amount of likes. The problem is likes/matches on dating apps do not translate to sex or at least kissing. Many women swipe on dating apps with no intention of meeting a guy. Similarly on r/Tinder you can see many cases of a swipe right , a match, but then the convo fails. In college I spent a summer renting a room in a frat house. One of the top frats on campus. Literally all the guys worked out a ton , what peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:39 PM
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Men do not have sexual turn offs to personality in women if sexual attraction to them exists. This is why for example onlyfans stars and IG glam models get away with being so obnoxious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:34 PM
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They do? Tf are you talking about. Pornhub puts out statistics for what women look up the most. They simply consume less porn because they can walk outside and get laid with less than 5 minutes of effort. This is a slippery slope. You haven't shown the reason women dont watch porn hardly at all . You are taking two things and assuming one causes the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:16 PM
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Why aren't women watching porn with men like that fucking other women then ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:10 PM
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Women care far more about appearance than men Why do women not like dick pics and porn is primarily consumed by men ? Why are erotica novels written mostly for women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:01 PM
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Women separate attractiveness and sexual stimulation. When I have asked threads about that here, women state they can see an attractive men and continue on their day. A man's height doesn't cause sexual thoughts instantaneously in most cases. But a woman's butt or boobs do for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:00 PM
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height is much more of a feeling when u are with a man. when he leans down to kiss you, when he overall seems larger than you. height has a psychological dominance effect. similar to why most world leaders are tall. ​ in contrast, men have almost no height preference in women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:54 PM
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How on earth is describing basic biology sexist ? Even feminists acknowledge the male gaze here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:26 PM
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Mods, i meant to say in the title casual sex is easy for women, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:04 PM
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Men don't get to define the standard for women thoug Uh, they do for heterosexual women at least. Just like women define standards for heterosexual men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:03 PM
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not wanting to date fat or promiscuous women and more so open scorn but there's a lot of people that view rejecting groups of people for dates as discrimination, https://www.yourtango.com/news/why-men-refusing-date-fat-women-not-same-women-refusing-date-short-men Then there's the whole concept of how someone can't have race based preferences, but don't want to derail. The point is people commonly associated dont want to date you == i hate you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:02 PM
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In general hypocrisy can tend to be an overused label that isn't applied in a meaningful way. Like I have seen it applied where a woman still wants man to be tall yet that counts as "body shaming". I think hypocrisy is when there's a serious contradiction in ideology at play, one that is completely opposite. A big one is preaching about 50/50 relationships but then wanting men to pay for dates and most things. That's a huge contradiction and definitely hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:00 PM

better to just avoid dating conventionally altogether What does conventional have to do with chemistry between two people ? What is described here is common for any heterosexual woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:46 PM
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Friends do not hold each other an embrace in arms and stare into each others eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:44 PM
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Nobody is having sex for money when simply asking your parents for it is an option. Any sex work is always to increase ones earnings far above what they can currently make. It is never for basic necessities. This is a huge misconception about the economics for sex work. This is why sex work costs per hour much higher than any other wage job in a given country. Example, in Thailand you might find 1hr FS / BBBJ is $50-60 , but the average hourly wage is probably like $3-4. But no one in Thailand w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:57 AM
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I find attractive to hold me in her arms and to hold her in mine, for her to look me in the eyes while I gaze back into hers, and for us both to feel deeply, wordlessly in love with eachother in that moment. This is sexual gratification, not "emotional connection".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:42 AM
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Because of this they feel unloveable. They thus seek out sexual gratification as a temporary fill for what they truly seek. This becomes a habit. Shutting down emotions, seeking out false intimacy, etc etc Nope , nope and nope. Men seek out sex because they want to have sex. Men DO NOT need love or connection as a pre-requisite to sex. Men fall in love with prostitutes and porn stars all the time. Men need sexual gratification with women as an innate biological urge, which when blossoms into a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:39 AM
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Why would that be, when we are talking about perception. If you put a hot, beautiful woman, hugging a muscular, tall man, that woman is no longer attractive to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:39 PM
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Most men though aren't statistically short, meaning 5'7" or less. Nor are most men ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:31 PM
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hedonistic society that doesn't value discipline, restraint, and a sense of duty. I would say its more so about people not dating till they get older . An example I can think of is Kobe Bryant, who met his to be wife at 21, well before he had any success as an NBA player, and stayed with her throughout his career, till his unfortunate death. If he didn't have met someone good until he was in the NBA itself, might have been different.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:30 PM

Does this make you salty? Not at all. I think people misunderstood this part. I fully support men earning big bucks and funding businesses for their wives. Any relationship where man earns a lot more i support,
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 05:54 AM

You can’t be serious. No, no software does all of that. Do you not have experience with business software ? I work at a huge tech company so here's what my company uses for our HR/administrative tasks: Workday -> everything pay / timeoff / sickday / working hours related Okta -> permission based portal for employees to login to Salesforce -> point of sale and customer support case management Atlassian -> work tickets and internal documentation Jobvite -> interviews and acquisitions list goes on.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:27 AM

You are experiencing confirmation bias or have a highly outlier social group. First of all women make up a third only of doctors and partners https://www.zippia.com/partner-jobs/demographics/#:~:text=37.7%25%20of%20all%20partners%20are,%25)%20and%20Unknown%20(5.3%25). https://hbr.org/2022/01/why-so-many-women-physicians-are-quitting ​ Second women doctors are quitting or greatly reducing hours in record numbers (second link). ​ So statistically higher powered business men and doctors are not lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:20 AM
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People ARE already in the circles they match with. Nope, disagree completely. I went to a mostly white, 96% high school. No attention whatsoever from women really I was into. Went to college, demographic shift, 40% asian, learned Mandarin and did immensely well with Asian girls overall. Post college, traveling to and working in China / Taiwan, basically slayed it there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 12:33 AM
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You have to do accounting, marketing, take inventory, manage employees, pay bills and upkeep, perform maintenance, respond to customers, manage day to day cash flows, etc. These are never done by owners these days. They have software that keeps track of this. Or they hire personal assistants for $12 an hour. Being an entrepreneur is one of the hardest things you can do. It's crazy that you don't know that. It definitely is. Running a yoga studio bought by your sales VP hubby isn't called being a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:57 PM
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Oh wow thats actually really cool! but yea anything like that isn't what I mean. "barry's workout" or "joe's juice bar" is more what I am focusing on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:55 PM
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Where are you finding businesses that aren't turning profit in the city that are just being funded as hobbies?? Presidio, the mission, some along fremont street. Note I am mainly speaking of green juice bars, smoothie places (not jamba juice, the organic gluteen free ones), yoga studios, cycling classes, etc. I've seen restaurants that are booked out a year in advance have to shut down because they can't afford to operate business here. Those are the old ones from like decades ago. These are not…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:54 PM
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I think we are mixing mom and pop shops into city venues. The yoga studio next to that new condo building ? Thats run by staff, not the owner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:51 PM
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How do you know this? Because how is it going to be financed via someone who would otherwise be a stay at home parent ? And when the husband is a director or VP at a big company ? People in this sub are so obtuse I swear sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:50 PM
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Is this like a toy / gift shop ? Thats a little different then, I assume this wasn't in a big city either ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:48 PM
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The owners of fitness studies aren’t working part-time. They absolutely are. these businesses do not turn profits most of the time and are just toys for rich women to own supported greatly by their rich husbands lol. I know 2 fitness studios in San Francisco that match this exactly. Cannot say names of course for doxxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:01 PM
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You realize i'm talking about "smoothie" shops, not jamba juice right ? Like the green juice bars, such as https://sidewalkjuice.com/menu/ , these are not large franchises or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:00 PM
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I've known many women like the ones you're describing, and they worked just as much as their husbands, Do you mean salary or time ? There's no way its salary. There's no way you can open a business like a smoothie shop https://sidewalkjuice.com/menu/ such as this one in a city without huge upfront cash or very good credit lines with a bank for business loans. It's not happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:58 PM
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Men are attracted to good looking (healthy, young, fertile) women. Those women need to be sexually available to said man. What is in her had, doesn't change her attractiveness. lol. It is a lie that men are somehow MORE attracted to crazier women. Men are absolutely attracted to women that do crazy things in bed. Hands down. Men love bareback, coming inside bareback, deep throat, all that. You are a fool to think otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:54 PM

you mean from her husband :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:52 PM
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and if things break off,she can actually survive on her own. Via alimony yes. Otherwise no. These businesses aren't owned in their name.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:52 PM
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full-time professional careers. Doing what ? like a engineer / doctor / lawyer ? Or running the yoga studio.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:50 PM
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Wow this is fascinating, great find.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:49 PM
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I don't think women who open large businesses like that are fake working. These aren't large really. About 5-10 staff on average. But they are not going to do all that work for no reason just to say they have a job. Noooo, you missed the point. These women aren't doing this to be able to say they have a job. They are legitimately doing a job for sure, that they like. It's just they are able to do a job with a business that otherwise hardly profits or loses money because of the backing of the hus…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:48 PM
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Okay, so now that you’ve discussed less than 1% of the population, Its more than that. Go to your local fitness studios and see who the owners are. let’s get back to the rest of us who live in the real world. I mean its all relative right ? people here boast about private equity partners who love their stay at home husbands. We magnify what we like and minify what we dont like.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:46 PM
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I don’t think running a shop is as easy as you make it sound. And yoga and fitness instructors usually teach more than one class or client a day. As mentioned regarding the shop, the husband helps her hire people to help her run it. What you’re talking about his a stay at home mom with a part time job. There is no mass conspiracy to label these women as equal financial contributors. No one is doing that. Everyone calls them what they are, which is stay at home mom with a part time job. No thats …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:35 PM
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You mean she rents out the space ? Then yea thats what i mean, just a SAH(W) "wife".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:20 PM
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Being a sugar baby on seeking arrangement isn’t taking advantage of a man. The men there KNOW they are expected to pay for sex. Right but there's ZERO legal basis for sugaring.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:48 PM
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find women and sleep with them under the premise that he will pay them to be his sugar babies Any form of sex for payment is not legal in the USA lol. What legal jurisdiction in your imagination do these cases exist in ? You have a severely deformed understanding of the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:48 PM
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LOL It’s not the same thing as saying “oh maybe I’ll have a relationship with her” and realizing you aren’t that into her after sex or explicitly saying you want NSA sex. It’s the intentional lie and manipulation. You are wildly claiming that saying you want a relationship and then lying about it makes sex rape ? Sorry I spit my coffee out reading this. There is no legal jurisdiction that has ever prosecuted or taken up any case considering that coercion. Taking your same logic, a woman using a …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:47 PM
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Nope, someone who has low self esteem wont be confident about initiating sex .
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:39 PM
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Like you said not the person or personality, but all that matters about us is being good in bed. What I meant is that a guy can still like and love the other parts of a BPD woman, but what draws him in is the sex part at first is all. Also I would say being hypersexual is in some ways antithetical to being an object. Initiation and seduction and confidence in sex don't seem to me like being an object.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:05 AM
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and see no issue in viewing the person you love as a sex object, Can you clarify what you mean by a sex object ? A lot of people throw around the terms object and objectification and use them to mean different things. I'm not blaming you for us hypersexualising ourselves. That's our issues and we need fucking help with that. But I am blaming you if you think it's in any way okay to treat the person you love like that, Are you referring to non-consensual things here though ? I am definitely only …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 05:18 AM
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You are confusing sociopath and BPD , as well as NPD. The video you linked is about sociopathy. Sociopath and narcissist are opposites of one another. BPD are not aware of how other people perceive their actions, nor do they care, they just like attention. Sociopaths seek to create a very specific image of themselves in other peoples eyes. A big example is the woman (a Chinese American) I dated. She had a software engineering position at a big company here in the bay and got herself fired over u…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 04:05 AM
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It's been estimated that approximately 1.6 % of adults in the United States struggle with BPD. The number may actually be much higher than that, and many experts believe that the correct number may actually be closer to six percenthttps://www.clearviewtreatment.com/resources/blog/how-common-is-borderline-personality-disorder/#:~:text=It's%20been%20estimated%20that%20approximately,be%20closer%20to%20six%20percent. A lot of people have borderline personality disorder, ​ and women with BPD are usua…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:57 AM
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I think the bigger problem is it can get dangerous when they go out of control. With my own experience the risky part was when she started following my boss and my teammates on social media because I was too busy for like one weekend on work stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:18 PM
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Borderlines aren't horny or enjoying sex. Borderlines use sex as a tool. Nothing less, nothing more. Nope. Your ideas are completely not founded in psychology or psychiatry. People with BPD are not aware or completely in sync with their actions or thoughts to use sex as a tool. You should learn more about mental health disorders: People with Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) occasionally exhibit strong impulsivity, seduction, and excessive sexuality. For both men and women with BPD, sexual p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:17 PM
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"attraction." Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:15 PM
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Nah BPD women are typically physically hotter than average. Maybe they are closer to healthier weight? But the pure amount of sexual energy is what makes them attractive. Any woman who wants a man's semen as an actual snack will be more attractive to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:14 PM
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And ive eaten pussy from an addict, doesnt mean id recommend that to anyone. But you do you I thought you needed your wife to be a virgin ? Look you are either a troll or on drugs now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 10:45 PM
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Whats your sex life like ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 10:19 PM
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He'll be a house husband for a few years before we have children, This is interesting, many other women have been especially opposed to a house husband if theres no kids. Do you have a very large house thats needs up keep or make a lot of money yourself ? Regarding #2 - Everyone should be capable and trying to make side income where possible. If we can make some money selling unused items on ebay, why would we not do that? If we can make money by way of "house hacking" or saving money in ways, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:42 PM
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Was just trying to shut this guy up lol. But to be fair this was a very high end girl in Shanghai years ago, not a typical sex worker at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:35 PM
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Why would he need a job to get a new car though ? wouldn't you buy him one? If you are the bread winner
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:27 PM
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but what about with what your currently can make ? Would you be okay sharing retirement savings with him too?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:30 AM
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ohhh ok so its only two, thats different then. The reason I say this is there's an NYC influencer who says she has never had a boyfriend but only like a "few dozen situationships". I thought u were the guy version of this lolz.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 05:28 AM
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What does the word situationship mean to you, How its used by women instagram influencers is casual sex with dates without commitment. West Elm Caleb is an example of situationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 05:23 AM
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/u/HimNeutron , Op, i think you are using the term situationship incorrectly. Situationship refers to casual sex with dates without commitment. This is how women use the term on instagram anyways. But I think you are using to refer to women you dated but didn't sleep with ? It might be good to clarify what situationship means for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 05:22 AM
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You missed the part about the situationships. I swear young people these days are so secretive with their word use ....
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 05:19 AM
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The only stay at home dads I’ve seen in real life are those in relationships with unbalanced power. Mostly Asian immigrant wife and Caucasian husband. No way. Asian immigrant women usually have the highest standards about money. Maybe Filipino women would do this, but Chinese ? Hell no, They only want men with cash.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:26 AM
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I’m on a farm too, in my case, I run the farm Do you drive to sell at farmers markets too ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:25 AM
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You're an idiot and probably no older than 16. My neighbors make the stay at home dad thing work. He was a teacher. She's a doctor. She's not giving him blow jobs. Mr. orthopedic surgeon or interventional cardiologist at her work is getting those blow jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:24 AM
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Why would someone need to support their parents financially ? parents have more savings and investments accrued overtime anyways. Are you trolling ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:20 AM
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broke over being in debt with someone. is "in debt" being the one working or the stay at home parent ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:05 AM
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You are the first woman who said essentially yes to this situation here. But if I may, would you be ok with say, supporting him and his needs financially ? Say he wanted some things for hobbies like a piano or a gym membership or protein powder, you would be fine buying him all of that ? And also if he wants to go out with his buddies drinking every once and a while, you would be fine paying that for him ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:03 AM
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Well its red meat. But it doesn't give u heart disease and obesity. It's all in the amounts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Gorske
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 02:39 AM
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So you are 100% the income provider ? How do you feel in that position ? is it stressful?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 02:20 AM
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Wanting to be a SAHM but not willing to be the sole bread winner isn't selfish in my view. That's just nature at work. selfish is more than you want a relationship where you both work but then you also dont want to spend as much time with the kids or in house work. I know a lot of couples like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 02:20 AM
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Also my wife would have to be a virgin, cause i like eating boxes to pleasure the woman i love and eating boxes from women have been with other men can lead to diseases, ohhhh boy. I have ate pussy from a prostitute before. Still alive, no diseases.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:59 AM
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They are like the monarchs of old, who will only allow privileges, such as eating red meat to people of their social circle. Are you high ? Do you not see big macs and whoppers as accessible food?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:58 AM
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With all time high divorce rates and people with 3 jobs, still being unable to stay afloat Very few people have 3 jobs lol. Also just study harder in school, don't do drugs and alcohol. I grew up poor and got into a top school, make big bucks now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:57 AM
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I mean I make over $300k a year as a software engineer, I could support a whole family on my salary. but if I marry a woman with a similar job ? Our kids would lead an elite life of tons of benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:56 AM

I'm not married or in a relationship though. This is interesting. But if you are not married or in a relationship how do you support yourself ? Typically stay at home partners switch to stay at home at some point in the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:53 AM
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Farms are interesting since they are sort of like working at home in a way . But in this case, farms are still a source of income, so not really a stay at home husband. Why do you feel farm families are happy ? Do you think the hybrid of working yet being near or at home is helpful ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:50 AM
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He spends a lot of time playing video games, sure, but he's still working. Just not in 8 hour bursts. This is temporary right now. He wants to get a job again Glad it works for you but this doesn't qualify as a stay at home husband for the purposes of this discussion. (see my OP) But to further discuss your situation, how would you feel if he did not work or earn money now whatsoever and had no plans in the forseeable future to return to work ? Would you be ok with being the sole bread winner ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:48 AM

I'm confused though, are you a woman saying you would qualify to be a stay at home husband if you were a man ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:46 AM
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I have no kids so what would he be sitting at home doing? In theory for this discussion he could cook for you, clean, he could do anything you need around the house. But he cannot earn money. It’s not like he is pregnant or something. Lol, this made me chuckle irl. she can have babies and raise them as her reason for being at home. Do you think women are generally better at raising kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:45 AM
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I appreciate your perspective :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 12:12 AM
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I don't expect such career to take off, but I kinda think it is strange for a person to not have any passion. In this case though they could have passions as a hobby, painting , singing, an instrument, graphic design, but they would only do it for fun, they would not use it to make money at all. I don't really care about the money, Would you be ok helping them fund their hobbies?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 12:11 AM
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Any specific reasons why ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 11:54 PM
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and the coming home to do the cooking, cleaning, and childcare. Was it like this since the beginning ? or did it evolve to this overtime?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 11:48 PM

Do you mean stay at home dads ? Does it feel better to you when a guy pays for a date ? Like in a sweet way of course, not a disrespectful way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 11:46 PM
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Some guys would be attracted to this because they have low self esteem and want to feel that they have you locked in. Would you say a woman is insecure for wanting to be a house wife then ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 11:24 PM
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use someone else’s money to fulfill your needs. That's the point of being a house wife though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 11:23 PM
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Marriage is about trusting each other. If you can't trust each other don't get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 11:21 PM
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Absolutely. I make over 300k a year and would love to marry a woman with hosuewife mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 11:20 PM
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It’s a lot of gross sex with a lot of gross married dudes How do you know? That is not her car, he’s just letting her borrow it. Nope it is hers. She owns it. Along with the house he bought her. And he’ll trade in both her and the car when he’s tired of them, and she won’t get shit in the divorce because there’s a prenup. How do you know this ? Rich guys don’t get rich from being generous or stupid. They get rich using people and resources for their own gain Are you a communist? Rich people crea…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 06:33 PM
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Did you mean a prostitute? Nope. Even more so in countries where prostitution is legal, sugar baby is more of a term for rich man young woman. See the linked video.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 10:01 PM
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. Nurses, Nursing is a very very good career. Many advancement options and big salaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 10:00 PM
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Since I don't intend to take money solely for being married, That distinction doesn't matter too much because legally assets made in a marriage are shared.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 09:58 PM
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How is that a good example? Already explained this, massive attractiveness and popularity with no call out for their sexual violence. How about the people involved in the sports hold athletes accountable? This is irrelevant because we are talking about feminists. And here's a source on feminists So you found a source with 2 feminists as authors, I will give you credit for this. However, I have never seen any wide spread boycott of sports or marches against athletes committing domestic violence. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 09:51 PM
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Thats what the woman in the linked video does, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 08:16 PM
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They are getting paid for a relationship and being in a relationship. By your logic you would also say marriage is a form of prolonged prostitution ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 07:01 PM
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Men cannot be sugar babies. Women don't want to date men who make less than them or have less money. I am open to counter arguments with evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:55 PM
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Betty and Jose Grafstein Sorry a trans man / woman doesn't count https://www.tiktok.com/@bettyandjose/video/7235017268231490843
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:54 PM
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If you end up in marriage how is it sex work ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:47 PM
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They aren't though. There's literally these services everywhere with very hot women for way less then what this women and similar are getting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:46 PM
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these men could leave you at the drop of a hat and if you have no education or skills, what will you do? Social media / influencing. Or digital marketing. Also you make and keep things like a house and sports car. plain and simple, beauty is a bad investment for women. IMO it's the best investment. Prettier women are offered better jobs and treated better. Women , even if they do not capitalize on looks directly, are always indirectly better if their looks are better. So many women do social med…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:24 PM
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While male sugar babies aren't nearly as common, they totally exist. Will need source or evidence for that claim. Anyways, sugaring is sex work. Getting married rich is not the same thing. That's only in the USA or where sex work is vastly illegal. Where's she's from in Malaysia / Singapore, sex work is every where so sugaring wouldn't be competing with it. Also that girl is very pretty. Women in general in South East Asia are prettier due to being much less fat than the USA. She's very pretty, …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:21 PM
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Most sugar babies may be getting an allowance but are not the only woman and have to do a bunch of gross sexual things The difference in the example I linked is in Singapore and Malaysia (where she lives) prostitution is fully legal and regulated, so "sugar baby" is more like a slogan of "rich man seeking younger hot woman" for a relationship. In the USA, I guess sugar baby takes more of a place of an escort since prostitution is illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:12 PM
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I mean even being fat she has no curves and carries a lot of fat on her stomach. She is on the low end of women her size in terms of shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:08 PM
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Have you thought about finding ways to increase income ? Maybe digital marketing or social media ? I recall from a previous post your UK based ? I have a friend that started a UK travel account on tiktok about royal history and gets paid from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 05:05 PM
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if your work requires you to travel, your spouse is presumably aware of this and it would be weird if now, all of a sudden, it's an issue just because you're married. Without revealing too much, the issue with my friend is where she transitioned from being a clinic doctor to doing her own telemedicine business, so her schedule went from always at clinic and at home to running her own business online and attending tons of tiktok creator or instagram creator events, or skin care meetups in differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:57 PM
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But when I ask them (cis hetero women) what do they want and expect from a partner, like what kind of traits are you attractive to. The answers I would get are related to very conservatives masculine traits, the same traits they write papers about how destructive it is That's because feminism in America ( as opposed to perhaps feminism in Europe ), is not based on progressivism. It's based on bringing down average or non attractive men to get women more access to attractive men. Here's a good ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:26 PM
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You need to be in a major city. In SF there's tons of single people around that age doing shit together.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:15 PM
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I went back to Europe to visit family and I'll be away from my husband for 2 months. Ideally, he'd be able to join me but that might not always be an option, and we've talked about whether this amount of time is okay for both of us. This is different though because you are open to him joining and talking with him about it first. This is the healthy way to do it. not just say something is for work and thats that. Why shouldn't they? If you are married you shouldn't need to be going out late at ni…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:08 PM
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My husband does one work trip a month. Just to be clear does this mean his job or business sends him / requires him to do this ? Or he chooses to go to some extra conference / meeting ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 07:58 AM
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I’m guessing it would be too much FOR YOU. That’s fair, def make sure you don’t marry someone who travels 30 times a year. If these two people are okay with it, why do you care? More importantly, why should THEY care how it makes you feel? Are you triggered by what I said ? Is there a reason you feel the need to use capital letters? Does that make you feel a little macho eh ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:08 AM
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or is she at the club with her single friends? Is she traveling for work because she can earn a lot more money that way, or are there other work options available closer to home? Her family lives in her same city in the USA, nor is she visiting her home country. She's socializing with other doctors after hours. I can't say more than that because she has 150k+ social media follows, don't want to doxx her or me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:07 AM
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Separate residences, spend the night together a few times a week, chat on the phone most days. That’s my ideal. So if I find someone who wants that, too, why wouldn’t we get married? There's no reason to commit to anyone if you aren't living with them. What difference does it make if you date other people if you aren't living together ? Like nothing is shared. I feel you are convincing yourself of something that doesn't exist in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:06 AM
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why shouldn’t someone have fun on a trip? Why wouldn’t someone WANT their spouse to have fun and get everything they can out of a cool location? I’m so confused. To clarify, I am talking about someone going out of the country 10 times a year for "work". I am not talking about a once yearly thing. Aside from that, relationships aren't about WANTs . They are about mutual desires. It's not about what one party wants .
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:04 AM
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Fair enough, I was focusing more on oncology in my post. But doctors won't earn more from off label uses.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 03:57 AM
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Trump isn't a beta lol. He's an older , aged alpha. He's an idiot, but if he wasn't rich or from old money he would probably be a biker dude or a gangster.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 03:44 AM
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If it’s just because you want to go to Jamaica that year Woman solo trip to jamaica is only for "booty" massages from the locals lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:36 AM
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Do you understand that physicians cannot prescribe medication for illnesses the FDA doesn't indicate it for ? Like a doctor cannot claim a Benadryl will treat erectile dysfunction and prescribe it because a journal paper showed it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:29 AM
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Its only a problem if the other person thinks its a problem This is the begging the question fallacy . Relationships are two way streets. Any problem arises when one person has an issue, so you haven't said anything really here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:24 AM
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Yup, I have been so ASCO before as cancer patient as a testimonial for a specific regimen I was treated with. ​ What I am saying is, a doctor cannot take something at a conference and come back and say "ok folks we are doing this now". Different regulatory bodies have to approve that treatment regimen. For the cancer i had during childhood, the new chemo regimen was investigated by physicians from 10 different countries and then approved by 2 groups that govern cancer treatment in children. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:21 AM
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I mean I would imagine quilting conventions are like domestic flights and pretty boring. The friend in question even goes internatnionally frequently, like to Singapore, Seoul, Dubai, etc. These are major fun trips, with tons of socializing outside of the conventions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:19 AM
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Uhhhhh... I would think it is more important for doctors to attend those conferences more than people of other professions. Conferences don't teach anything that would be used in a clinic setting. Clinics and hospitals are governed by standards of care and whats fda approved. Like doctors can't read something off a research paper and do it in the clinic. Also this is doctor worship. Doctors don't keep your grocery store running or your bank running, or keep you safe from cyber attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:16 AM
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If they do not own their practice it doesn't though. Most doctors work in medical groups or hospitals where they just get paid from insurance or whatever insurance gives them. Also where does the boundary of family and money sit ? Doctors already earn a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:14 AM
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Some do many things seperately. Is there a point in being married if you do close to everything separately ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:01 AM
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So do you believe 30 times a year is too much or not ? What you stated is a red herring
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:00 AM
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Sure but if two people are married there has to be some meaning of that marriage. If a person travels as much on their own that they did before they got married that's a problem. otherwise marriage is just bill splitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:58 AM
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It’s still work, after all. If going out of town twice a month could help me to better support my family and give our kids a better life, I would probably do it. But what if it's just by choice or more or less elective ? Like in the case of a doctor for example, a doctor won't earn more money because they go to conferences, its for learning. But doctors already spend a lot of time at their job.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:58 AM
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You mean, like the vast majority of the planet? Uh, no ? Every place has different costs of living. Singapore , HK, NYC, London, all have high yet different costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:20 AM
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If you overlisten any conversation between two or more guys, In western societies men cannot discuss sex with other men without it being potentially interpreted as gay or "homo". This is even more the case if you are in a place with a huge LGBTQ sphere like San Francisco. In countries like China or Singapore, discussing sex between men is very common. As a foreigner , Chinese guys often recommend herbs to take to go "5 times in a night". Or in Vietnam, its common for men to eat snakes so they be…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:38 PM
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They don’t enjoy getting up every day and going into the corporate grinder for 10 hours to make money. I disagree because you are forgetting working and making a salary is a defense against having to settle. It's a leverage. Take the woman in my article for example. very nice income off her own business. She wants a man that makes equal or more than her AND is attractive enough for her standards. Surfer chad down at Santa Monica beach is hot but he makes $15 an hour. Dead lift chad down at LA fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:31 PM
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then existence of Trump negates your point. I'm lost, Trump is a former president of the USA. What does he have to do with this ???
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:24 PM
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This is the narcissism dating style. It might work in some situations, but it doesn't work in a lot of cases unless the woman has a lot of self esteem. And I don't see the advantages of it. West Elm Caleb made love bombing work great.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:42 PM
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There’s tons of people who have to work a ridiculous amount of hours just to afford their bills and have to take care of their house still. You can be interesting with emotional intelligence, or about your job. See what most guys don't get is women don't build interest the way men do. Men are very tactile and visceral, the thing needs to do cool things to be interesting. Women are more interested in the emotional aspects of things. Like I have taken the most mundane of things to myself and talke…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:37 PM
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This one is very interesting. For me, active dates such as walking around a shopping mall or going to an arcade has worked very well when i was working in China and Taiwan. Or when I visited Singapore. But I actually find in the USA they are bad because women tend to be less focused on a guy and building chemistry with him when they aren't looking at him for the first while. In the USA people are a little more outgoing in public, where as in Asia they are usually very quiet . So walking around i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:26 PM
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Sexy would be this
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:19 PM
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There’s something called comfort and the weather. If it’s hot outside it shouldn’t be surprising to see a girl wearing tank tops or shorts. I think when guys say "dress sexy" they mean more like this
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:18 PM
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Right, but what I'm saying is most people anywhere don't make 170k, so it's kinda moot. You'd have to be making that exceptional income to be able to even consider living there, Nope, wrong. She spends only $1,600 a month on rent. That's very low for socal standards. Using https://www.rentcafe.com/rent-affordability-calculator/ someone making $80k a year can afford up to $2000 per month rent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:09 PM
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I would believe you but I know that the number one predictor of divorce is a man losing his job. Most women get married for security, financial and emotional. Once one of those two is gone then there is no real reason to stay in the marriage Right, but those could also be 50 / 50 relationships where when one side loses the ability to take care of the 50, that kind of breaks the agreement the relationship had to begin with. Women who specifically want 50 / 50 are almost never ok with being the fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:03 PM
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Most women don’t make $170k Within California, that's not uncommon at all. As I said, you have to take it differently for each cost of living area. In the midwest there's women who make $80k and live in a studio or with roommates maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:58 AM
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becoming less prevalent (even tho you haven’t actually given any real proof that it is less common actually), doesn’t mean that a concept never existed at all. Your post is basically the equivalent to saying “six packs aren’t real because the average person in modern times is a fat fuck 🥴” No, what I am saying is it does not exist in the manner in which it is laid out. As some here have noted, A walmart store supervisor might want kids in a low COL area and want a bigger house etc. Thats what I …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:43 AM
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Women are definitely willing to date and marry someone just for money and safety, especially lower and middle class ones or the ones from 2nd and 3rd world. This is passport bro-ing, which is a different concept altogether. Typically men in 1st world countries will be taller / richer than men in 2nd and 3rd world countries altogether, and there's also cultural influences etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:39 AM
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Being a Passport bro isn't all roses either. For a young guy who's average or above average but high earning in the USA / highly educated, passport broing is a ticket to being a chad. In Taiwan and China, my tinder matches go through the roof. Unforgettable experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:38 AM
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There's also data to support this phenomena , https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/01/us/record-number-of-40-year-olds-never-married-trnd/index.html , record number of over 40 year olds are never married. I picked an example story because I find thats easier to discuss for subs like this, and the woman is living in areas known for casual sex and dating. One who earns $30k, who has or wants kids, who needs a home big enough to actually do that in, who owns more than three things, who doesn't live somewher…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:34 AM
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but it’s 100% cap this narrative that women are intentionally foregoing relationships for singlehood. Correct, but women aren't forgoing relationships, they are just holding and not compromising on standards. Let's take the woman from my article right, of course this lady is up for some casual fun with surfer chad from Santa Monica beach, but surfer chad earns like $18-20 an hr. So she won't want to support him financially in a relationship. But mr engineer from a tech company makes her salary o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:30 AM
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but women (and men) frequently settle for someone they are not as attracted to for practical reasons. But what does settled mean here ? Are you just saying relationships that have not as much focused on physical attraction ? That's somewhat different than settling. Most people don't earn that much, Sure but the woman is living in the equivalent of a roommates scenario in a larger house. So theres options to live the single life if needed. But yea, i could see women at lower income levels opting …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:20 AM
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what is average adam
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 05:23 AM
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The goals and desires of men and women are diametrically opposed. Men and women want different things and have different compromises .
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:44 AM
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It’s easy to find a hot guy. Not easy to find a hot guy that you actually want to have sex with. Whats the diff of these two categories though ? Is it how interested they are in you ? If they are douchey or not? Or appearance based?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 06:36 PM
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actors are not all homosexual men. George Clooney, Leo, ryan Reynolds. Your statement is hard to take in good faith
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 06:34 PM
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thats a movie star
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 04:37 PM
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oh yes thats true. i have seen black ladies go well into late 30's as well
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 04:25 PM
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I have found women are good in 20's and 30's if they are asian or take good care of themselves with fillers + exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 03:55 PM
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The majority of women are not fine until 40s lol Unless you are living / dating within high earning circles where botox/juvaderm / exercise classes are very common, or you date exclusively asian women, i don't see how this could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 03:55 PM
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dont you want the experience of nurturing a child ? that will grow up to love you and like you as their mom ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 03:53 PM
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Oh you are from the PH! sorry. But sometimes some Westerners look down on us and generalize us being cheap, easy sex ( you even brag it on your group private server), manipulative, and gold diggers or hoping for your god damn green card. This is definitely bad and wrong whenever this happens . I don't support those guys. However what happens is sometimes when a guy says they like women from countries like PH because they are sweet, kind and feminine , a western woman / feminist then makes the ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 05:13 PM
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How would it not ? Is virginity defined as free sex ? In many latin american countries fathers takes their sons to become a man at the brothel.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 05:01 PM
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Are you implying women don't use men for sex to boost their ego in 1st world countries ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 03:43 AM
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We’re not talking about marriage or a relationship, just a simple date. Something to keep in mind is prostitution of different kinds is abundant and legal in Japan. Much more so for native Japanese men. There's also the rent a girlfriend services. And none of those is socially shunned like it is in the USA. So the true degree of celibacy is probably less than we think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 02:36 AM
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I did the latter and attracted a much more attractive woman in SE Asia, even though I could still attract unattractive western women if I wanted to. This is gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:43 PM
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By “bad boy” do you mean a funny and charismatic guy who looks tough from a low income background who has a few tattoos but is working hard, loves his family, and is a decent person? This.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:30 PM
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because he was a bad person, though. They were just tricked into thinking he was a good person. It's both. It's because the person known to be bad was good to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:29 PM
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The problem is this falls into the "black knight" fallacy. In contrast to a white knight (who defend women needlessly), a black knight who might be known as a "bad boy" behaves much nicer to a woman then she expects. This causes her to think and feel like he's giving her special consideration or that she's his cure or reason to change. This draws the woman in deeper, but the black knight later shows his true colors. The thing many people miss is relationships with bad boys / emotional abusers ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:28 PM
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It's better to find a woman in the West and make her traditional. That's what worked for me. Do you have an example more or less?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:02 PM
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poverty in America is not as bad as other places in the world. Oh my.... You have a very very sheltered world view my friend. Look up garbage stew in the Philippines. That's poverty outside America.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:01 PM
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'Strong masculine men' wouldn't need to go to a place where women are deliberately disadvantaged so that they are dependent on men. They would see that as the weak man's route. A man can only be considered masculine if there's social conditioning for it. This directly contradicts your previous statement on women needing social conditioning to be feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 01:59 PM
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The places where women have the most wealth/opportunities and freedom/autonomy are the places where women exhibit their nature their true nature the most. This is false, proof: Rich islamic countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 01:58 PM
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Women are still women, you will run into the same issues as always. Nope. It's two different standards and markets. A man who's well off and a 7 in the west is basically a god in developing countries, or specifically a white western man going to asian countries. My tinder literally blows up with matches whenever I have been in China / Taiwan / Singapore / Thailand. You are right there's issues, but the sheer advantage you have outweighs issues lol. In the USA you have issues with an obese woman,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 01:56 PM
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So your self-worth hinges on validation from women? A portion of all people's self-worth is affected by validation from others. We don't live on deserted islands. If people are never acknowledged or treated well by others, that will affect your self worth to some degree. It's not all of it, but a portion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 01:52 PM
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You know what’s ridiculous? Thinking that western women are ‘angry at passport bros’ because they can’t have them, when western women never wanted them in the first place! Well you aren't wrong, but women tend to date up and men tend to date down. So that's definitely partially true. But in general if a guy is a 7 in the USA he can land 8-9's in developing countries. So it's more advantageous to the guy in those cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 01:50 PM
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You can get this in America easily if you pay as well..... pay for play is not affordable in the USA. Even obese sex workers cost like $250 an hour. For healthy weight its perhaps $450 an hour. In thailand its like $70 an hour for a hot young woman
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 01:48 PM
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A guy who is a 3 in his own country is not going to attract some 8 in a foreign country. And if he does, then she's probably using him for his money. He can probably attract a 4 or a 5, though. Yea but a guy who is a 7 in his country can get 8s or 9's in a developing country.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 01:47 PM
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California has blue collar workers earning $43337 per year. WAY better. The average salary in California is $65k a year https://www.talent.com/salary?job=&location=california
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 01:46 PM
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The Greencard Guys in here who love to talk about going overseas for a "traditional woman" need to think about how "traditional" these women are in reality. They're willing to date outside of their ethnicity and culture and very likely move an entire continent away. Very few passport bros bring foreign women back to the USA, that's an older generation thing. Look how few Thai immigrants there are to the USA in recent years. Virtually none. But you have millions of men each year traveling / movin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 01:43 PM
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Nobody thinks that, wtf? Read the comments in this post and many others. They say "women are the same everywhere" or "every culture is the same for women".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 01:42 PM
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But you see women in passport bro destinations play the part of the feminine woman. You point out the negatives but think of the positives . It’s very hard to find a woman that just primarily wants to cook or clean or have a small job in the USA these days. This is ignoring the difference in standards in wealth and height as well
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:19 AM
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What you don’t understand is america and the west is the nation with the highest and greatest standards of the dating world you can imagine. The tallest , richest , best looking men are in Europe or in the USA . Hands down. So going to other countries like in Southeast Asia is like becoming a 6’5” dude that’s rich in the USA . This is what people gloss over about passport bros and somehow think every country is as wealthy as the USA is . Total delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:17 AM
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Just take a week or two in Thailand and get some experience .
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 05:20 AM
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Is this someone you were having an affair with ? Or an ex ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:23 AM

No man who’s successful at casual sex knows what the RP is or if they do they do not talk about it in reference to their own sexual habits . Again, if u want to study trolling , u need to craft the narrative more .
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:45 PM

No one actually talks like that . They say “I’m seeing a few women casually “ or “I’m having some flings”.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:42 PM

This is obviously a troll post . It’s not even good effort .
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:41 PM
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This is false because not everyone has knowledge of cheating beforehand . Look at what Happened to Tristan and Khloe Kardashian . Often time atheletes travel a lot so it’s easy to do things in secret
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:17 PM
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Which country do you believe is civilized to not have these issues ? I agree Asian countries and some European ones perhaps probably
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:03 PM
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It’s very beneficial if you are valued and supported for being that way . Femininity is also being nurturing and supportive . Also not all societies value being assertive or confrontational, not even in men . So your speaking from a very western perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:37 PM
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If you vilify femininity , that’s a prescriptive action too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:31 PM
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We are confusing gender roles and gender qualities . Being cute , nurturing , sensitive , and loving are parts of a feminine personality . Why do you think Asian culture and women are so different from western women ? Hint: they don’t view everything as individualist ! If women have issues with femininity maybe they have gender identity issues
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:21 PM
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If you don’t like being feminine that’s an issue you have with femininity . In other countries like south east Asia or Japan , femininity is a beautiful thing men cherish and love . Men have no attraction to masculine women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:15 PM
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You are talking in absolute statements that are automatically false by omission . I have helped out at a girls coding club in my college where women called themselves boss babes. Also someone’s league isn’t determined by wanting or not wanting a boss babe . None of the tech billionaires are married to software engineer founders as well , if that points out anything to you. Elon Musk has no desire for any boss babes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:08 PM
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Russia is a gangster society , quite literally, can be taken over by mobsters at any moment
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:03 PM
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Ah but see , you aren’t looking at the big picture . The problem with the west in modern times is it views femininity as weak , vulnerable , and exploitable. The women in this sub will confirm this for you. The west vilifies femininity and feminine traits . So what happens is , women seek to become men. They seek the same careers exactly , the same household duties , the same sex partners and sexual styles , etc . There is no difference between men and women. Then , everything men used to be lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:02 PM
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The boss babe isn’t mythological lol . Plenty of them in computer science and in business that I met in college in Silicon Valley
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:55 PM
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Hookup is also not used as much as a term now. Many people say situationship
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 07:50 AM
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That’s because it’s not called hook ups or casual sexual anymore . It’s now called “situationships” . Casual sex with a little dates for meetups involved .
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 07:49 AM
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Are you denying gay best friends now?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 07:13 AM
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How do you explain gay parents? Gay men are basically women in most cases. Why do you think they bond so well with women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:51 AM
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"All women make at least the same amount as men," is utter bullshit and thus invalidates the rest of your nonsense. Within the same profession nowadays that is true. But professions are still skewed toward different genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:28 AM
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This is coming from someone who wants to be a SAHM. But that is a major gamble on my part in 2023. Have you ever thought about dating a software engineer ? Many of us make mega bucks and work from home so we can still help out with cooking and stuff :D
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:27 AM
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How is a woman with a successful career self sacrificing ? Do you think you might not like femininity ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:28 AM
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It's literally designed by the Chinese to destabilize western society. I think people forget this too easily. Like, compare reels on instagram vs tiktok. It's vastly different. On instagram i get things very close to what I am pushing like on. On tiktok I get endless video why colonialism and the usa is bad or why white men are bad, even though i don't like those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:53 AM
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So you would agree that , if a man saying “I only want to date a woman with huge boobs” , is as objectifying as a woman saying “ I only want to date a man that’s 6 feet tall” ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:00 AM
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A child doesn’t relate to their mother the same way they do to their father . I can cite u hundreds of psychology peer reviewed papers that explain that if you are open to learning
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:24 PM
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Biology isn’t sexism . If you seek to be in denial go ahead . No one stopping you. Plenty of psychology studies on child psychology and how they related differently to each parent. Not saying fathers can’t be there too . But u think a father is a complete replacement from a mother or vica versa ? Please
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:10 PM
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What if he wants mama instead ? You are just arguing self fulfilling prophecies
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:42 PM
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But they are . Look at interviews of neurosurgeons on YouTube . Just because something is against the law doesn’t mean it’s necessarily enforced . Number one rule of law
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:21 PM
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Are you in the Nordic countries ? Or a liberal area ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:35 PM
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Are you confusing a medical / surgical specialty for a surgeon ? Ophthalmologists aren’t on a surgeons schedule or hours lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:20 PM
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Are you that blind ? Calling out a user and saying no one cares if they reproduce or do X Y Z is a personal attack. There’s no place for that in civilized debate. Unless of course some people don’t have the mental capacity to act civilized
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:17 PM
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Reported for personal attacks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:11 PM
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? Have you gone mad ? We don’t need men and women to reproduce ? Did you invent cloning ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:00 PM
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Manipulation is a form of deception . Where is the deception in this case ? Are you confusing love for deception ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:55 PM
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Do you think a waitress can just walk out mid-shift because her little boy skinned his knee at daycare? Are you not aware of the difference in hours a surgeon works versus a waitress? come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:49 PM
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if hunting is not aggressive when done by a female then being a boss isn’t aggressive when done by a female either… so what exactly was your rebuttal here? Humans as a species do not need to hunt for food. We can farm and prepare food. Lions CANNOT farm or prepare food, they can only hunt. You are trying to compare two things which have no relationship with each other. Lions do not consider snabbing a gazette aggressive because it's like skinning a cow or chicken for humans. You are trying to co…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:48 PM
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But what does outearning mean ? What percentage ? Different tax brackets ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:05 PM
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Can you clarify what you mean by financially stable but don’t have a job ? Are you referring to generational wealth ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:31 PM
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That’s a self fulfilling prophecy that’s false . There’s people in the comments already saying men they dated had a hard time with their careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:30 PM
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In a personal relationship ? That’s tacky and narcissistic . Would you date a men that talked to you about men’s rights a lot ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:30 PM
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Your talking in extremes here. Many medical professions have plenty of time for family . But some surgical professions work 80-100 hours a week at times . Time is a zero sum game . Some professions just don’t allow it . Reality is reality .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:29 PM
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Women who feel the need to disagree or find ways to disagree have a dysfunctional personality trait . Women who use logic to disagree are still feminine though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:27 PM
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Your example with lions is wrong because male lions protect the herd and fight with other males to ensure the females safety. Lions are hunters and not farmers, so a female lion hunting food is equivalent to a woman cooking dinner .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:26 PM
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If men don’t embody supposedly “feminine” qualities like kindness, nurturing, compassion, sensitivity and devotion to family, then what’s the point in marrying him? Attraction doesn't work like that. Men and women are two different genders. So are non-binary or trans. Not all things are valued the same. Look, if you don't like being feminine, thats fine. That's your choice. But you have a serious misunderstanding of what a persons abilities are and their personality is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:20 PM
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You make the time. You can have demanding careers and still be present as a parent. You'll note that obody says axiomatically that a male surgeon makes a bad father. So I disagree with you there. Male surgeons make good fathers because they provide a good role model of masculinity and being a high earning man. Children want their mother for comfort and security. When little boy falls and has a booboo, he wants his momma. If momma is in surgery, he won't be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:08 PM
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career woman who overcompensates by keeping all the “trad fem” qualities men expect from a relationship. Qualities are a part of a personality. What do you mean by "over compensate" ? Femininity is inherent to whats attractive in women. You can be feminine yet still have a good career.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:05 PM
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Ohh i see where you are coming from. Yea that's male insecurity for sure. But more or less, a software engineer and doctor are within the same socioeconomic class. Overtime if he had ambition and wasn't a dud he could have raised his earnings higher through advancement etc. Similarly costs of malpractice insurance / student loans repaying affects physicians salaries too. Maybe what I am getting at personally is women in a higher socioeconomic class then men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:02 PM
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Being overly concerned with being right usually comes with traits like aggressiveness, dominance, etc. which aren't in the realm of feminine traits. Now, some men absolutely love aggressive women. But most naturally don't as it isn't feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:56 PM
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Agree generally but so many of them say dumb shit like “men don’t care about women having a career” or “we can’t fuck your degree.” Doesn't this come up more in discussions of whether or not men's degrees or education is attractive ? I have heard this, but this argument I make is more about LTRs. Some of them also do this weird shaming type tactic arguing that a woman with a career is a bad mother Good mothers need time available to make for parenting. So some careers like surgery or certain med…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:54 PM
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Feeling the need to disagree is a dysfunctional trait. The goal should be to agree when possible . Maybe that makes more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:46 PM
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Did you not read my post ?Do you not consider Dr G an intelligent and successful women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:44 PM
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When you say earning potential , are you dating men who work in lower earning jobs ? Or the same type of job or industry ? Regarding your link , it’s expected men earning significantly less than their wives will experience stress because women do not like to feel like they take care of men. As the saying goes , women will not be another man’s mother besides their son.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:43 PM
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The type of person who writes off "career women" just always also seem to have an issue with women ever being right about anything. At the same time people who focus heavily on being "right" as women tend to not accept when they are wrong, or look for reasons to be "right" when it's not that relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:36 PM
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But you’d never say a man who is disagreeing with everything a woman says has a “dysfunctional personality” It could definitely be, but it depends on the context. One realm is someone being a know it all and attempting to know more than they actually know. For example, I date mostly Chinese women. When I speak in mandarin, sometimes I botch the tones, and they correct me, which is totally fine. But sometimes if they get something wrong about US history or government, I jokingly correct them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:33 PM
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But that's more of a work life balance and compatibility issue. Like if you mean beyond 9-5 hours, people need to be agreed on how much availability they want from one another. That has less to do with the person and more to do with lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:29 PM
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But being in charge is the problem for insecure dudes. Would you equally consider a woman insecure if she didn't want to date a man that was in charge at work and made a lot more than her ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:28 PM
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Let's be honest — larping on the internet aside — only a tiny fraction of the men that say they "don't want a career woman" actually travel in the same circles as (or would be able to date) those types of career women. I mean there's also investment bankers, healthcare administrators, its more than just exec level. So it's pretty pointless for men to wax rhapsodic about how they "don't want a career woman". I mean, would you take a contestant from "My 600lbs Life" (or whatever the show's called)…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:27 PM
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I think men don’t want a “career woman” cuz they don’t want someone who might make more than them or at least makes enough that she could survive (or even thrive) without his financial contributions. But most financial structures / markets are built for dual income households. Homes, mortgages, the good stuff is really for the level of a dual income. Most couples also generally marry within the same education class or generally have more or less the same earning potential. Have you seen cases wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:24 PM
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or a job where she's in charge, Being in charge is a very different category than making good money or loving your job. You can make good money and love your job without being a manager .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:19 PM
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THE guy(the guy they actually really want) also known as HELL YEAH camp. You have to be THE guy if you want to have good chances the relationship will work out longterm, that's the burning desire thing. I think the key thing what people miss is, the burning desire doesn't necessarily last forever, but it cements a solid emotional level bond that does last forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:16 PM
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They mean that they can't really handle being questioned or disagreed with and don't want to date the type of woman who isn't agreeable. This is different from. they don't want someone they think will be opinionated or challenge them. The former is someone who has a dysfunctional personality, the ladder is a normal part of a relationship. Constantly questioning or disagreeing with people isn't a desirable personality trait, or indicates incompatibility. But having ones own opinions is normal,
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:14 PM
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it’s any woman with any job that isn’t ready to completely disregard it to work around her bf or husband This is a caricature. The vast majority of households in America now do not have a SAHM. But you should elaborate on what "disregard" means here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:11 PM
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This is a logical fallacy. Everyone gives more to their relationship partner as a result of having a relationship to them. By this logic anyone buying gifts for their partner they wouldn’t give to others is somehow not out of the goodness of the heart. Do I need to inform you altruism doesn’t exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:40 PM
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How is providing for someone and giving them things they cannot otherwise attain a bad intention ? Are people who give food to homeless not having good intentions ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:25 PM
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What “true” intentions are there ? Do tell. That aren’t your assumptions of course .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:30 PM
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As long as we are talking about consensual sexual activity , women objectify men just as much as men objectify women. Treating a man as a height , a pair of muscles, or a penis is dehumanizing too. Women do all the things you mentioned . They make fun of men who are fat , short , you name it . You just can’t see any of it because of ignorance .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:38 AM
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If what I’m saying sounds like I’m talking in circles it’s because what I’m talking about just feels obvious, borderline tautological. What you’re saying feels like what virtually every man who gaslights women talks about. Assuming one's opinions is tautological is borderline psychosis. Just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:52 AM
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You can easily spin it around and say he's the one being manipulated since she could be using sex as a bargaining chip to buy her things. Transactions aren't manipulations, either way. That's some radical left wing take to assume otherwise. Manipulations have to deceive in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:49 AM
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Starts dating a 40yo old guy that can give her everything her parents have denied her. Someone that much older most likely has assets a car a house. Way to easy to manipulate someone that young. You don’t see where that can be troubling? How is giving a woman something her parents couldn't get her manipulation ? Manipulation is a form of deception, not generosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:48 AM
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Good points, but most IG models that you and me are talking about are not fitness models, they are more what are called "glamour" models that are on the surgically enhanced curvy side. I actually think most of the effort is more on networking and finding opportunities to gain fame. Here's an IG baddie that got a record label of her own to release https://www.instagram.com/p/CskAsOzP8cu/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:01 AM
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This makes no sense . A man’s eyes works . Does he like what he sees ? Or not ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:21 AM
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Only fans isn’t sex work . You misunderstand the concept of it . It’s being paid a monthly fee to exist and post photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:30 AM
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The female equivalent of the player is actually the Instagram Dubai / Miami / LA hottie with a bbl that can get tons of free gifts from not only men but also brands that want her to advertise . See the issue is a player in the abstract is a master of seduction and sexuality . In terms of women , the true masters are the IG baddies . They have unlocked a way to get tons of money and luxury just for existing . Not even billionaires can match it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:29 AM
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Do you think that men are overstating the importance of this. Yes and no. The importance of it is very much so important yes. But it doesn't necessarily come when you first meet someone. When I was studying abroad in Taiwan for a semester back in college, I met this girl at one of the night markets, and then we talked for a while on text and then met up again at a cafe. It went well, but no action yet. Then when I met her again for dinner, and at the end I kissed her, it lit up from there. All n…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:15 AM
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I don't care how much lust I have for someone, I'm not sleeping with him on the first date. I'm not letting a stranger into my body. The problem here is this is talking in the abstract. Taking your words at face value, you are absolutely correct. Any woman what not let someone she feels is a stranger into her body. However, one doesn't feel someone is a stranger in moments of intense burning desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:08 AM
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Whether or not someone is stopped from doing something is not related to the argument about demonization . Red herring . Your straw manning here . Men get called fat phobic for wanting a thin woman , women get a high five for only wanting a 6 foot tall guy or 8 inch dick. Treating a man as a height or just his penis is no different than treating women like a pair of tits.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:06 AM
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It’s all relative . 6’5” is still an amazing height in the USA , and will get you a lot of female attention , but in an Asian country ? You would be basically be like a nba star in the USA
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:00 AM
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There is zero demonization of women’s sexuality since the 1950’s . Total red herring .
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:58 PM
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What does equal mean though outside the context of civil rights and the law ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:53 PM
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Fertility rate isn’t a function of cultural norms or values . East and southeast asian countries generally have shorter , poorer men, paired with having no drugs or gangs in popular culture . So the standard of masculinity is far less than it is in the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:52 PM
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Yea . Roe vs wade being overturned 50 years later should be clear proof society has no linear path.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:36 PM
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For the first example you gave , do you believe women should be equally demonized when they do that to men ? Or no one should be judged . An example for women would be if say there’s Dave who has a massive penis , and women only want Dave for sex . They only care about his penis , and just put up with whatever comes out out of his mouth to get more time with Dave’s penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:30 PM
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I think that you’re missing the greater context, but you’re free to insist that you aren’t. Your dodging the question. Do you believe all sex is rape ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:09 PM
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I love how you cited yourself with something that goes against your point. Sexual objectification for women is essentially the same thing as sexual harassment training outside of a job/ just normal life. It’s unfortunate it needs to be brought up but it’s a sad reality. Did you read some other article and not mine ? https://nus.edu.sg/alumnet/images/librariesprovider2/issue-128/update/sexual-objectification-can-most-often-be-found.png?sfvrsn=a3710f4a_2 Here's the direct image you need to look at…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:58 PM
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The reality is that loads and loads of women have stories of unconsensual encounters or close encounters with men. It’s a ridiculous number of anecdotes that colors everything else that you’re trying to talk about. My argument has nothing to do with non-consensual sex . The attempt to bring this up here is some weak straw man argument or attempt to appeal to emotion. You personally may not have been involved with any unconsensual activity. But the reality is that we are primates and there are de…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:54 PM
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How does consensual sexuality have demonic consequences ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:18 PM
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You are not looking at things in the big picture here . You are using outliers like incel forums or Andrew tate support communities and comparing that to the overarching reach feminism has on academic thought . These two things aren’t equivalent . https://nus.edu.sg/alumnet/thealumnus/issue-128/perspectives/panorama/where-do-we-draw-the-line Sexual objectification for women is a global concept . There is almost no academic presence or major media presence of women being called out for sexually o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:46 PM
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Literally hundreds of academic sources state sexual objectification is desiring physical traits in a woman above all else . Here’s another example https://nus.edu.sg/alumnet/thealumnus/issue-128/perspectives/panorama/where-do-we-draw-the-line Look , you continuously refute things that are proven by hundreds of sources without providing any arguments of your own. You are either a troll, or arguing in bad faith . I will not respond further unless you present a source or argument with a source . Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:43 PM
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Idk , I think another part of it is being inaccurate . I have an above average penis (7.25 inches length) , but with some women , oddly enough they think it’s like 9 inches ??? Either some guys are bluffing or something but this is no different than a woman getting a huge bbl and saying she is natural . , or a man claiming as such
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:36 PM
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Nope . I linked you a journal article detailing it . You are just grasping at straws now with no actual arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:34 PM
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There’s entire academic studies dedicated to female objectification and dehumanization . Here’s an example peer reviewed paper https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6707629/ Do you actually believe no one makes the argument of female objectification ? Hard to believe you are taking that stance in good faith
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:06 PM
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Nope , many people in this sub claim wanting these things is dehumanizing to women because it treats them as “objects and not people”. Why are you bringing up sexual harassment in a thread about sexuality ? Do you believe male sexuality is equivalent to sexual harassment ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:58 PM
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This is a logical fallacy. A need doesn’t have to be fulfilled . No such law for example dictates a hungry person who can’t afford food must be given food by those who have it . Similar to men , men can need something and improve themselves to up their chances , but no one is forcing women to give that to them . Just like everyone needs a home of some kind but homeless people exist . Your argument is the black white fallacy , that only two choices exist , which is false in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:17 PM
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Sure but South Asia isn’t really considered “Asian” in other parts of the world . Bollywood is it’s own thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:31 PM
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Nope . Two things are at play . Asian countries have a lower standard of masculinity . Asian countries greatly ban drugs , gangs , guns , and many other parts of what’s main stream in other cultures . Most Asian countries also follow a Confucius influenced culture and have more gender roles at play. So it’s a lot easier to be seen as masculine . Globalization . Japan and Korea are key western allies , so anything in their culture is getting exported on the mega scale
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:01 AM
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If there’s still marginal development until age 25 , how can we be sure when development ends ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:45 AM
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Yes at the time that’s what the public thought . Racism was main stream back then . Those are facts . You sound like a vegan with objective morality arguments. Are you a vegan ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:42 AM
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You aren’t arguing in good faith . Clearly you give a shit if you are bothering to post here .
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:41 AM
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You have to prove a 27 year old isn’t undergoing brain development in order for that to be true . You haven’t proven the contra-positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:40 AM
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The law is the representative interpretation of morality and justice yes. Maybe that doesn’t apply in nations without a functioning democratic process , but if you are in any developed nation , the law is the moral truth . Here’s a counter argument , my belief is someone isn’t an adult until they are 35 , because that’s the minimum age to run for President of the United States . So it’s fine for a 34 year old to date an 18 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:38 AM
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Calling people kids doesn’t help make your arguments stronger . Ad hominem isn’t an argument
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:34 AM
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What is still developing in a 20 year old that isn’t in a 27 year old ? People in their 20’s are more or less the same if they are college educated at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:33 AM
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Heterosexuality itself is an unequal power . One has a penis , the other a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:30 AM
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Laws in the United States apply equally , so any woman has the benefit of alimony , child support , no fault divorce , etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:29 AM
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But now this is the deserted island scenario . Ultimately things we do require some form of positive feedback to keep doing them. At the same time , we need to believe in ourselves to further our efforts . But it’s a 50/50 relationship .
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:22 AM
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Hmmmm, what do you define as not being your best though ? Is it a phase of life ? A state of looks ? As a man , I think focusing heavily on dating in early college is a waste of time because the odds are stacked against guys not in a fraternity or not an athlete . Your time being used to get a better job or start a business or something life changing would benefit you more . However after college , I think it’s important to keep dating because you have to gain dating experience . You need to not…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:31 PM
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Have you never heard a woman say I don’t want to be a man’s mother, I want to be his wife ? What’s your source for single women being happier then men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:24 PM
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Your speaking in general terms here . Everyone has struggles in life and low points . Women generally seek in relationships a support system where a man can support her emotionally , and men provide that support , rather than the other way around .
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:05 PM
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Men don’t really. Heterosexual relationships typically involve men influencing women rather than the other way around .
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:43 PM
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I disagree , for two reasons . First is that single motherhood serves a valid place in society of preventing paternity fraud. If a woman raises a child on her own , no man’s resources is given towards raising a child not his own. Second is natural insemination , or private sperm donation. Without single motherhood , the path for men to become natural sperm donors wouldn’t exist
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 05:03 PM
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No it’s not a transaction . It’s a subscription . It’s a relationship because of the life updates and such . But it’s fake because a man isn’t getting any sex
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:09 PM
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The problem is only fans pays women for existing which is a toxic form of relationship between men and women . It’s literally a paid subscription for pixels . Not quality porn actors and actresses . Although some OF are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:58 PM
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Yea but thats not what who i responded to said, Let’s stop telling young men that they have to compete with people to validate their worth. Perhaps i meant to say non-participation trophy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:04 PM
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Woman gain confidence primarily through relationships with men and their appearance . Women aren’t expected to have big sick energy or anything similar
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:36 PM
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But see the question is if the programmer feels he is important to society based on his skills and contributions. If so , he will do good in the club . It’s hard to have experience in just clubbing because it’s not really a skill in and of itself . It’s being a person in the club .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:13 PM
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Good points . Especially about how you can challenge yourself . View changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:07 AM
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Acceptance yes , but how can you be alright regardless of the outcome unless you compare yourself to others ? For example , if one knows no programming languages , never coded , how can they feel good about applying to a developer job posting ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:05 AM
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The only way you know when to humble yourself is when you are with someone of superior skill or people a far bit inferior that would be scared of you or intimidated .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:03 AM
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The superior and the inferior . See maybe you view things differently in life , but men compete in life for the best jobs , opportunities , and women. Like I can see at work whose less skilled than me , and whose still more skilled .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:01 AM
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Did you not take the time to read the article ? The researchers examined Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD), conceptualized as excessive self-love and consisting of two subtypes, known as grandiose and vulnerable narcissism. A related affliction, psychopathy, is also characterized by a grandiose sense of self. They sought to refine the understanding of how these conditions relate. This is about a mental health disorder called NPD. That’s has nothing to do with narcissism as a trait. That’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:59 AM
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Being humble is the exact opposite of confidence . Humbleness means you are too shy and not competent in doing things . Again , you are presenting confidence as if it’s altruism
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:56 AM
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But why don’t you feel afraid of failure ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:53 AM
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Since you mention asbestos , did your grand father have mesothelioma ? Typically that type of lung cancer has symptoms similar to a bronchial infection rather than the other types of lung cancer . A lot of GPs aren’t taught to look out for rarer things. You are right though this delves into the realm of over confidence. The right thing for a GP to do is order tests when something can’t be explained.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:52 AM
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The recognition of superiority is an observation , not a belief .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:46 AM
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Narcissism is the obsession with self . They are highly confident people . You cannot prove “fake” confidence . It’s like claiming someone is faking happiness .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:40 AM
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Of course my fiancé is better than some people who didn’t get his job - I mean duh. People have different skills. But him being confident and knowing he’s good at his job doesn’t mean he looks down on the people he beat out for it. Recognition of ability isn't looking down on others. A doctor recognizes they are more knowledgable about medicine and the body than their patients, but uses that to help them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:39 AM
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I am competent in several things that I choose not to brag about and this gives me happiness and a sense of value. How do you know you are competent at these things ? Let’s stop telling young men that they have to compete with people to validate their worth. Ah, the participation trophy stance ...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:37 AM
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Again your confusing validation and interaction . Without interaction with others you essentially only have autism
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:07 AM
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What does knowing yourself mean ? How does knowing what you want relate to your perception of self ? For example , I know I want to go on dates with beautiful women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:43 AM
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But see , being able to help others comes from the state of being superior to them. It’s like at the grocery store when the machine asks you to donate a dollar to help cure hunger . The fact that someone can buy food and have enough to help others means they are superior to those who cannot do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:41 AM
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But in order to be good at your job , you don’t need to be the best , but you need to be better than some other people , or have some gauge to determine that. And see , the fact you learned something from your fiancé means he was more knowledgeable than you, thus why u feel his confidence. Same thing with me explaining programming concepts to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:38 AM
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But see not being nervous isn’t the same as being confident . Like , someone needs to feel relevant or important in their surroundings to feel elated or confident . As what other people pointed out , this is the competence part for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:34 AM
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Your confusing validation of others with interactions from others . You know and learn about yourself when you can measure and judge your own abilities . Validation is about recognition from others . We need to have certain traits or skills that are relevant to the real world . As I said before , we don’t live on deserted islands .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:29 AM
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Ok fair enough about the competence point . I guess what I am getting at though is competence needs to be in things that have some measurable outcome or gain. Like when I was in high school or middle school I was really good at some video games but because video games didn’t have much effects on the real world , I didn’t feel competent from them . With my programming job now , the problems I solve are for huge corporations that buy our software . So it just feels so much more relevant . I think …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:16 AM
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Ah but see here , plumbers are a great example of being better than other people . In order to fix some gas pipes or someone’s leaky sink , you have to believe you are better or more skilled than they are (the person who called you in)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:10 AM
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I think you are trying to tiptoe to present confidence as an altruistic quality , when it’s closer to narcissism . How does one know they are good at their job ? Versus not being good at their job ? The only way is a comparison to others. But see that’s the thing , it’s obvious when you need to be taught things , you aren’t as good as the person teaching you . But when you are doing the teaching , you are the better one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:06 AM
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But the issue is , those apply just to the chemistry lab. How do you know you are strong in other situations?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:03 AM
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How do you know you are strong as opposed to weak ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 02:43 AM
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Women need looks and attention for confidence though . In most cases , this requires a level of effort like exercise , make up , fashion , etc to be of a decent amount . Also the level of guy she attracts is related to the confidence benefit .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 02:03 AM
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You’re right to pursue sex ends at the point at which it infringes on my right not to be bothered by your libido. Most countries don't have les majeste laws though. You don't have a right not to be bothered.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 01:16 AM

While I have never been to Nordic countries , I have understood they don’t have the double standards of feminism , e.g where over there everyone always splits the bills , as opposed to the USA . Not saying Nordic countries solve all the problems
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 12:19 AM
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Women sense confidence much more than men do. Confidence makes women wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:43 PM
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This this this. In my experience it’s just being an interesting person to talk to or having strong opinions is also a good personality . But not being nice .
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:43 PM
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I disagree in part because status and money only help you if there’s enough class inequality between your class and lower classes. Or rather , a recognized way to signal wealth. I’m 6 feet , good jawline , make 300k+ a year in the SF Bay Area. I have never got a date based on my wealth , only my looks or personality. Everyone in my area has enough to do more or less the same activities and shopping . There’s no rich people and poor people malls. Theresa not much difference in class because the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:29 PM
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She might not be able to find a job in my country, esp if she is poor. Filipinos are one of the highest earning groups in the USA, despite being a very poor country.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:20 AM
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Your logic is contradicting itself . First you point out the reason people live with their parents is $$$ . But then you say such a relationship based on need of money and not choice is happy and healthy ? If a woman was trapped with a man due to money and couldn’t live or support herself , you would call this happy and healthy too ? The problem here is no one is entitled to any kind of relationship . But this goes for romantic or family or platonic relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:48 PM
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FWB are equivalent to relationships in regards to depth of intimacy . An FWB might even be more intimate than a relationship depending on how passionate the love making is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:04 AM
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Fair enough . Maybe I should have worded it as “friendships can’t replace romance “
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:00 AM

A situationship is the same as casual sex because it’s sex without any commitment or mutual goals . You could more accurately call it casual dating , but it’s casual .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:57 AM
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In the USA it matters nothing. Significant separation in life style is only present at very high income levels. Me and other engineers who make $300k+ in the bay area still shop at walmart lol. Now, outside of the USA in countries with more leveled life styles, it matters more. A big one is for example in Asian countries, there's different levels of malls. There's like the luxury mall with fancy brands, then the mid tier mall with ok brands, then the unbranded malls. Bangkok / Shanghai have good…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:50 AM
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Friends can and do live together and it's more common among those who know romance isn't happening (asexual or celibate people, lavender marriages) or those who see greater financial benefits (students, young people, urban residents). You can have very close relationships with friends Just like men aren't entitled to relationships with women, people are not entitled to friendship either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:41 AM
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The fact that I have both romantic and non-romantic relationship experience, and both have been equally important to me Equally important isn't the same as being equivalent with one another. If that's not what you are arguing that's fine, but a lot of people here are arguing friendships or family is functionally equivalent with romantic relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:39 AM
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Everything too complex for you is a fallacy. Why don't you quit the Ad-hominems and educate yourself about logical fallacies ? You are cracking me up. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:34 AM
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you're kinda not entitled to your friends and family too, so telling them to substitute their wanting for love is meaningless. THIS THIS THIS. Deserved an award. So many people bringing up friends and family as if friends and family are fruits on a tree. What about the parent's quality time together ? What about a siblings time with their family ? If one isn't entitled to a romantic relationship, one is isn't entitled to friendship or any other form of relationship either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:33 AM
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but my parents will never. If that's your position great, but your parents can kick you out or get sick . A woman is more devoted to a man because their relationship is by choice. But we do not choose parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:22 AM
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Finding a date does cure the state of being lonely. Alone == without another.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:18 AM
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TikToks that go viral enough to be 'popular' with a large variety of people are often entertainers, content creators, making things for view and to provoke, they're not representative of the average woman. They are going viral with average people. You can't go viral with just other entertainers. Where the likes are coming from is what matters. The average woman (most women) aren't making any content on TikTok. Wrong. 150 million americans use tiktok, with 1 billion global monthly users https://b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:05 AM
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Being alone and feeling alone are two different things. Trying out for the mental gymnastics olympics ? Where are they holding it eh ? Ok you know what, I'm in a god mood, ill cut you some slack. You haven't proved loneliness is a form of emotional baggage, or anything negative toward someone else. This is the flaw in your argument. This is an assumption you are making, a slippery slope fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:48 AM
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While depression is indeed a mental health condition , loneliness is a state of being alone. Loneliness also isn’t synonymous with depression, so I feel you are mixing different topics here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:31 AM
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Someone who has kids has a family and this found a romantic relationship .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:30 AM
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You are speaking as if loneliness is a mental illness or a disorder , which it isn’t . The state of “alone” is a mathematical state. You cannot solve the state of being alone without other people . You are stating oxymorons now. It’s like saying one can be 2 without adding one to it or doing anything to it .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:29 AM
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All assumptions there . How is any of that related to what I said ? You could spin the same logic saying someone is needy for friends if they prefer friends over romance . You need to relate arguments based on what is being said . Not imaginary ideas you want to project
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:36 AM
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It is. There is no other experience equivalent to kissing someone deeply , coming inside their holes . It’s just no equivalent .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:01 AM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/05/03/in-the-u-s-and-abroad-more-young-adults-are-living-with-their-parents/#:~:text=One%2Din%2Dthree%20U.S.%20adults,a%20good%20thing%20for%20society. Only 29% of 18-35 adults live with their parents in the USA. The data supports this concept. And many of the older couples I know have one or more parents living with them. You need a romantic relationship to have a kid to begin with, Look, do you truly believe friends can actually replace romantic rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 04:25 AM
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Many parents enjoy their children living with them. Do you live in a non-western country ? No one lives with parents in the long term in the west, 24/7 cohabitation is not required to prevent loneliness. Having no one to do anything with in your home is a very lonely experience. If cohabitation wasn't required why do virtually all couples live together ? Like why is it even a thing ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:16 AM
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You know who I haven’t stayed in contact with? Everyone I’ve had sex with. So you aren't in a relationship or seeking one now ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:06 AM
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Do you have examples of intentional community that are accessible to cis / heterosexuals ? Or not based off gender or orientation ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:05 AM
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Why do you feel they are failing ? I am just challenging the idea that friends are a replacement for romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:03 AM
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I'm not saying these are replacements for romantic relationships; they don't serve all the same functions. But they can make a big difference in staving off loneliness, in my personal experience. Oh ok so your argument / belief is more reasonable then. I am also not saying romantic relationships are the only tool against loneliness either, I am just saying other things do not really replace it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 01:22 AM
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Sure, but you are talking about LGBTQ. If someone isn't LGBTQ, that won't work for them. can only be alleviated by one person, and that one person forever. Not the same person, but the type of relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:54 AM
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So the one exception to my view would be fraternal societies of religion . I think living in a monastery with no women might work since there’s long term commitment and you are guaranteed to always be living with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:27 AM
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A lot yes. No connection is deeper than that with a woman. I don’t have much issue getting women either , but I’m more fond of romance than friends .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:24 AM
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The vast vast vast majority of roommates are not friends with each other lol. If you have data to prove your point though I’m glad to consider it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:24 AM
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As I commented elsewhere , the possibility of being lonely in a relationship doesn’t negate the possibility of being not lonely . But you can’t be not lonely outside of a relationship in the long term . Your logic would be like saying it’s better to not take a test in school because you can do bad on a test even if you prepare.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:23 AM
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The key word here is long term. You don’t live with your friends . Your friends can move away , get a new job , focus on their own family . You are using a very temporary interaction (hiking) to try and satisfy the need for connection for a lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:21 AM
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The possibility of a bad relationship doesn’t negate the possibly of good relationships . That’s like saying it’s better to not take a test then try to do well on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:19 AM
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Can you elaborate ? Have you experienced being close as family to your neighbors in a western society ? The reason I denote western is Asian societies are far more tight knit overall
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:18 AM
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Using rape as an example of being close to someone is a straw man . You intentionally picked that example to gain emotional appeal and to make the argument easy to defeat . Read up on what a straw man is . I really think you need to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:17 AM
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Basically no one lives with their parents in western societies . And no one does so for the long term . Key word , long term. Most aging and frail people go to nursing homes . If they don’t , the period of living with their children is a very small period of time . Not long term . Roommates ? Puhlease roommates aren’t even relationships . Super common for roomies to move our due to issues . You are only proving my point right
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:08 AM
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If you do not understand how using an example of rape in an argument about romantic relationships is a straw man, you really need to look up what a straw man is . Like if a woman was saying she feels lonely , would you also argue that means she wants to be raped ? The example of the forest is yet another straw man. Loneliness is about people. The forests obviously isn’t a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:05 AM
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How ? A live in relationship ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:54 PM
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Comparing rape to sex is a straw man. It’s a giant straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:41 PM
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Solutions are self improvement, trying harder to meet women , or switching locations . You seem pretty hell bent on men being miserable . Are you a radical feminist ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:14 PM
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Because the modern woman isn’t feminine anymore . Theres some that are , more so in Asia or Latin America , but American women are entitled and think they deserve respect without earning it .
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:12 PM
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What do you mean by deal with it ? That’s seems like a moronic statement . You deal with something by attempting to solve it. Yet you don’t give any solutions .
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:03 PM
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Well literally it’s being very physically close to other human beings . But to answer your question logically , continuous sex creates feelings at some point . Think of old married couples . In the beginning their attraction was probably mostly physical . But now they are attached to each other by love.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 10:57 PM
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You need a romantic partner or someone to start a family with. Otherwise people will be busy with their own family , and friends move or are focused on their own family . If both women and men want partners and loved ones , there’s no reason to obligate anyone . It’s just a matching problem
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 10:55 PM
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How can someone solve a problem of loneliness in the long term without sex / romance ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 10:46 PM
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Straw man there .
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:08 PM
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But you aren’t working for the people buying the content . E.g , producing one picture can be sold 1000 times or more . Or producing 10 pictures might only make one sale
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 05:38 PM
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Nordic countries would likely be a different dating environment since I believe they are like 90% white people and extremely tall. This means you have tall hood looking men in every corner . In the USA , you have a big stratosphere of different races , heights , and backgrounds . Much more wealth inequality. And also a more violent culture with guns. So TRP makes more sense in a country like the USA and less so the Nordic ones probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:25 PM
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The real world is most of the time a true Scotsman fallacy. The constant denialism of TikTok here in this sub is also odd, TikTok is the most popular social media app among young people . How is that not the real world ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:32 PM
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May I ask why ? Or like what are the factors that contribute to it ? I would think Italy and its more traditional culture is better for men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:29 PM
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They are sex workers. They aren't. They do not "work". They create content and earn money off subscriptions, and selling content. Porn actors/actresses "work" for a film company. Prostitutes "work" by selling their services. I am saying this is the economical and legal differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:15 PM
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I honestly believe that this is why many celebrities and athletes have no problem paying for sex. It's not just celebrities. In many latin american countries, it's a tradition for a boy when he turns 18 to go with his dad to the brothel to "become a man". It's almost seen as a right of passage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:09 PM

Someone isn’t cheating when they aren’t in a committed relationship yet . So you wouldn’t be able to compare any of what’s being discussed here to that. But if you want to go that route , women end most marriages
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:44 PM

Women can also keep a back pocket fwb for the urges though until they decide another guy is worth committing to
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:22 PM

“Ex boy friend turned fwb” , but was she also sleeping with you during this time though ? Like was the relationship actually good ? Seems like it wouldn’t be that satisfying
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:21 PM

No no , he would tell his buddies that it’s a casual girl . Like he wouldn’t just say he’s single
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:03 PM

It depends to who. He is going to say he is single to other women , but perhaps not to his bench press buddies
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:54 PM

Excellent response , and this makes a lot of sense . Changed my view
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:52 PM

Men are hesitant to admit they aren’t in a relationship or having sex since they are virgin shamed
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:44 PM

Well maybe not that extreme , but a woman who had a short fling with Joe from the gym isn’t going to use that to say she’s not single
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:30 PM

Ok what does it mean ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:15 PM

Men more often mean single to be not sexually active
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:33 PM
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But if someone asks you , "are you in a relationship?" , what would you say, if you were seeing someone casually ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:27 PM

This is more about how men and women talk to each other. Would you openly admit to a male friend you are hooking up / dating phase if you didn't have a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:18 PM

You missed the part about sex vs no sex. Women don't look at the sex part, they look at the status they have with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:17 PM

ima be in the minority according to this post even having sex I still am single casual hookups still mean I’m single So if someone asked you in real life, are you single, you would say yes ? If you had a regular hookup /fwb , would you also still say you are single?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:16 PM

What study are you citing? Its my view, not a scientific presentation. If you're going by pure anecdotes, then I could just as easily say you're flat-out wrong because every woman I know would define being single as being sexually inactive/not seeing anyone. You are a woman though. I am more referring to when men and women talk to each other. Not between women talk. A woman would rarely admit openly she is seeing someone casually to another male friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:15 PM

The implication would be if guys were in a relationship without sex they’d say they were single? Not a committed relationship but if they were going on dates where they didn't have sex yet or had screwed up first dates, then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:13 PM
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If you ask a man who's hooking up if he's single, he will say "I am seeing this one girl now but it's not a serious thing"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:11 PM
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Most men do not define single as currently hooking up or a situationship
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:02 PM
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Whether or not is it true or not is irrelevant . She needs to feel that is true . That’s the fantasy many women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:57 PM
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The solution to women’s emotional distress is feeling sexually desired. She had a dream you were cheating ? Make her feel you can’t resist her and tell her no other woman turns you on as much as she does.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:34 PM
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I’m a big fan of the unexpected naked woman scenario ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:45 AM
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The first major antidepressant drugs were approved in the early 60’s. Treating depression isn’t a novel concept .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:33 AM

oh ok got it, makes perfect sense then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:01 PM
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Hmmmm for the part about superior or importance , would this be in ways you don’t already think about him like having a huge ego ? The reason I ask is when in relationships I have generally gotten compliments on things like being good at a sport say tennis and try to return the compliment , but she ends up saying that’s not true etc .
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:28 PM
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OP, your post is somewhat flawed because you haven’t specified if you are referring to any form of dating or casual dating / situationships . Going on dates and getting a girlfriend is very different from going on dates and quickly getting sex with possibly different women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:15 PM
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Modern feminism and NGOs don’t create jobs lol. If it weren’t for free trade China would still be in famine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:19 PM
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Your answer is my favorite so far :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:52 PM
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they can clean up after themselves and cook. but is this speaking in terms of always cooking for your man ? Like what about sometimes making him a dish he really likes, and he does the dishes ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:26 PM
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It’s not even actual prostitution in some cases . There’s someone in the comments her commenting that even relationships of men from the west aren’t consensual due to the lower income of people in developing nations . Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:13 PM
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The ironic part is these people who claim passport bros are human traffickers skip the part how nations like Thailand and the Philippines Have super strict laws regarding foreigners owning property . There’s a reason at least Thailand was never colonized by European powers lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:07 PM
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So you are saying women in other countries somehow don’t have the mental capacity to give consent ? That’s racist and xenophobic .
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:47 PM
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But someone can be sexually submissive without wanting to be tied up or restrained , and similarly someone can be dominant without whips
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:46 PM
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So wealth gap relationships are human trafficking ! Let’s arrest all the wealthy guys then !!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:40 PM
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Fears of exploitation are really overblown, the majority of these girls are actually quite happy at the prospect of dating a western guy since hes less traditionally imposing than the locals, THIS
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:32 PM
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against neo-imperialism and western companies exploiting developing world labor: because it is the morally correct thing to do What do you define as exploiting? Are you talking about natural resource deviation / pollution or just jobs? Free trade agreements aren't exploitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:31 PM
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Women aged 18-30 who are not overweight, ummarried, childless, with a height between 5'3 and 6'1 and an income at $0 or more constitute 7.87% of the american dating pool. WOW. I assumed it was bad but not that bad. Do you have a source where you got that data from ? Not at all doubting you, but love to read and breathe data as a nerd.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:30 PM
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These women aren’t poor for there environment and surroundings though . That’s what “ethical” adults don’t understand . The cost of living is simply lower (shocker right ?) in other countries . So marrying a wealthier man from the west is the equivalent of an average woman in America marrying a neurosurgeon. It’s just a leg up in wealth. Also who are you to determine “exploitation” for a different country or group of people ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:22 PM
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Oh ok, maybe then we just miscommunicated. Yea being a maid isn’t good , but I thought u were opposed to ever helping him .
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:12 PM
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What is domestic labor defined as here ? Are you referring to “extra things” that are purchased with money ? Why do you classify something for someone you are married to as domestic labor ? That seems like a very negative term.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:06 PM
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Do you not define going out of your way for someone as love ? Like to me if you never surprise someone else with something , even though they can do it themselves , that just sounds sort of self centered. Like how can you love someone if your not willing to do anything extra for them ? It sounds more like friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:42 PM
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What does chores mean here ? Like what do you do about common areas like the kitchen if you live together ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:25 PM
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For the cook and clean and take care of themselves part , do u mean that if needed they can do these things themselves ? Or that the continuous state of things in the relationship should never be doing these things for the man? Like how do you handle meals at home ? Do you each make yourself different dishes ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:17 PM
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But that’s not how equality is defined in most use cases . The concept of equality is that every discipline should be the same between women and men. Therefore men being more skilled in home repairs would be deemed an inequality . This is how they claim having majority male workforce’s in engineering roles is sexist . If your not a liberal though , I understand why u feel it’s equality
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:14 PM
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Was the move to get your attention or to express explicit romantic interest ,?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:15 PM

In person anything is primarily limited to areas where Chinese immigrants hang out , since I am Jewish and speak mandarin , and play table tennis, that’s the only place I am really well received. This has gotten me girlfriends / dates before , but of course it’s a very specific subset . In general SF is a very skewed / polarized city . Extreme liberal attitude on crime , extreme hipsters, very negative attitude toward tech people from non tech people , etc . I guess New York City is more of a tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:10 PM
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Any specifics on what companionship means to you ? Just asking since I usually here this term in pet commercials lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:30 PM
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Interesting . Then laziness is a big negative influencer in an LTR. So a man who loves climbing and hiking and really pushes himself to excel in it would be a perfect fit then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:29 PM
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Ramsay is a very good example of masculinity because he has the audacious and ferocious nature of someone like trump but without the psychosis . Today a lot of men are confused because there’s very little gender essentialism in society
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:25 PM
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You are dodging the question. "emotional" intelligence cannot prove any facts about a person. Do you understand the difference between an assumption and a fact ? If not maybe look it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:23 PM
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He approaches every woman in sight How does a woman determine this ?? Do women have security cameras tracking every man ? onviously has spent more time infront of a screen instead of people. How does a woman determine this without assumptions ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:21 PM
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women can sense desprartion from a mile away. Ok, how does a woman determine if a man is desperate ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:18 PM
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So if improvement is a part of life , then what’s wrong with improving the strategy one applies to dating ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:07 PM
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Men can improve themselves This contradicts your view that dating is a "normal" experience. Normal things don't require improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:04 PM
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Through Pain, More Gain? - A Survey into the Psychosocial Benefits of Sadomasochism (uio.no) Thats about BDSM, in norway. Nothing to do with being sexually dominant or submissive. Also that survey is sampling about BDSM. You would need a survey for the general population about general sexual activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 02:40 PM
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Zoomer women for sure do make it explicitly obvious when they want a guy. But what's explicitly obvious to an average person might NOT be explicitly obvious to someone with autism. In my early college days, I was still recovering from chemo brain from cancer treatment. So there were times a girl on the bus would suddenly start asking me about some assignment I was doing on my laptop, but I just didn't put two and two together that she is trying to make herself visible to me. I'm not autistic , b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 02:17 PM
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Something like 30% of women are sexually dominant Source please.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 02:07 PM
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But what do you mean by pre-dating ? Do you mean before being a couple ? To me , when you are only at the phase of a first or second date , it doesn’t make sense not to set up dates with other girls because people in general can be very flaky . Or like , first date is good , but second date is just bad . I think once there’s PIV sex involved though , i stop seeing other women since I don’t like condoms and want to reduce std risk lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:59 AM
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They don’t though . Female sexuality doesn’t work like that. You need to show them your confident enough to take them out by risking rejection. I’m a 6 foot guy who’s done some modeling as a teen , never been asked out but been on plenty of dates when I asked .
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:52 AM
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