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No that’s completely wrong. Sounds like you made the exact same mistake as me by listening to RSD and just taking massive uncalibrated action. All I can say is try to find a mentor who can correct your tonality body language and fashion because that’s what’s going to lead to results not walking up and asking immediately if they want to fuck in the ass wtf is that
/r/TheRedPill24/02/20 06:18 PM
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I treat it like an algorithm. If the girl isn’t into you, then you have to tease and flirt to build more attraction. If the girl is into you, then you can jump straight into sexualizing the conversation. If the girl is touching you right away, then you can initiate a makeout right away as well. The end goal is always sex. So you should be moving towards making out and pulling in every set. The important thing is to have specific lines prepared for teasing or sexualizing so you won’t get nervous …
/r/TheRedPill16/02/20 10:22 PM
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Almost none. The approaches are indirect and most of the conversation is non sexual as well. The intent comes through in your tonality, fashion, and body language, not your words
/r/TheRedPill16/02/20 09:46 PM
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There really isn't any better way than sales. You're going to need to talk to a lot of people to get good and sales allows you to not only do that in a socially acceptable way, but also make great money while doing so. How to Win Friends and Influence People is a great beginner's book for how to have conversations. The basics of good conversation are Statement + Open Ended Question. If you master this, you will never run out of things to say. Every time the other person talks, you make a stateme…
/r/TheRedPill26/09/19 10:01 PM
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Never visited South America so have no idea how it works there in terms of logistics and game in general. All I know is I pulled new girls home 9/10 of the last times I went out. The 1 exception was when I committed hard to one girl for the rest of the evening and got hard cockblocked by her friend who showed up out of nowhere. This is not counting sex from old plates, only new girls. Don't know about South America, but here, 6'2'' good looking white guy should absolutely be able to get laid eve…
/r/TheRedPill25/09/19 07:04 PM
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I had the benefit of an Acting Coach to constantly review my work and let me know if something seemed "off". For game, I simply practiced my opener over and over again until everything was perfect. No nervous ticks, no quiet voice, slow steady calm speed, perfect eye contact.
/r/TheRedPill25/09/19 03:23 PM
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Pretty much, could not have summarized it any better myself
/r/TheRedPill25/09/19 07:14 AM
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Could be comorbidity, where more than one disorder exists in the same person. Not really, just got better at pretending to have the right emotions
/r/TheRedPill25/09/19 07:05 AM
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This is the exact mindset advice I was talking about that I tried to implement with no results lol
/r/TheRedPill25/09/19 07:02 AM
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Incredible perseverance. Totally agree that if you can fuck a girl good, all problems in the relationship just magically disappear. ​ Approaching thousands of girls is almost unheard of in today's age. Job well done man
/r/TheRedPill13/09/19 05:46 AM
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No, not really. I know your way intuitively makes more sense but oddly enough I noticed the biggest upswing in results after I started acting MORE like a robot and copying high level body language and tonality from some of my favorite movie characters like Iron Man and Wolf of Wall Street. For me personally, the social skills thing and mindset thing sounded legit and made a lot of sense which is why I took an RSD bootcamp but just because you have the right mindset, it's no guarantee you will co…
/r/TheRedPill07/09/19 06:51 PM
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https://www.menshairstylesnow.com/pompadour-fade-haircuts/ Go to a white barbershop to cut it, not Asian. If you have an Asian haircut, you can do well with Asian girls, but if you have this, you can do well with any race of girls
/r/TheRedPill05/09/19 09:52 PM
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Start getting results and succeeding in whatever goals you've set for yourself. It's not easy being comfortable in your skin if you're in your parent's basement playing video games all day and jacking off to porn. I've seen people who are able to project confidence and be completely comfortable in their skin while living a minimalist lifestyle and I can admire and respect that but for me, the comfort only came after I started getting results, whether it's money or women.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/19 01:35 PM
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Hard to say without more information about ethnicity. All I know is a pompadour fade haircut with pomade every morning worked really well for me
/r/TheRedPill04/09/19 01:32 PM
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Hey man, grats on the amazing results financially, I know from personal experience that's not easy and probably much harder than getting good with women. I actually did build a business in the 3 years and found that going out 1-2 nights a week was incredibly beneficial. I mean, it's not like I can go cold calling for prospective clients on Friday and Saturday night. I'd be stuck doing boring admin work for the business instead of meeting new people and working on my social skills by going out. $…
/r/TheRedPill04/09/19 01:30 PM
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Cheat day once a week where I eat an entire pizza, which is my main craving. No, I don't like drinking alcohol at bars & clubs because I find that it slows my speed of thought down. You have to be fast and ready to adapt, especially as the night goes on and your energy levels go down. Keto was really hard for me but if I had one piece of advice it'd be to keep everything else the same but add black beans. They really do wonders to keep my feeling full so I don't get nagging hunger pains througho…
/r/TheRedPill04/09/19 01:23 PM
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She was sitting down on the dance floor and I literally walked up, grabbed her hand, and pulled her up to dance and started making out with her shortly afterwards. I think dancing is good but it's easy to get rejected there since it's a highly physical environment. I prefer approaching at the bar or near the restrooms as they're coming out and moving to the dance floor if the conversation goes well. Yeah, clubs are loud as hell, that's why you have to work on talking louder
/r/TheRedPill04/09/19 12:46 PM
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Holy shit, good work on door to door sales man. I wish I had the balls to do something like that at 20. I feel like it would have accelerated my growth with women and life by years. Yeah, listening to recordings for the first time is a real shocker and ego destroyer. So much to improve and work on! I'd say the biggest thing is that it will be really easy to view sales as a "low profession" and try to study hard in school for a "high income job" if you do nothing but door to door selling but it's…
/r/TheRedPill04/09/19 02:24 AM
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Incredible analogy with eye contact being the filet mignon of body language. Agreed 100%
/r/TheRedPill04/09/19 12:55 AM
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Yep, I noticed it was significantly easier to build strength and prevent stalling at the gym if I did Tuesday and Saturday instead of Monday, Wednesday, Friday. So same workouts as stronglifts with A and B just 2 days a week instead of 3. Idk I think a lot of trial by error is involved in any workout routine because everybody responds differently
/r/TheRedPill03/09/19 10:45 PM
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I don't know what your body type is so really hard to give specific advice. What worked for me was focusing on pull-ups and rows to build the illusion of a V-Taper and working each major body group 2X a week as opposed to 3X. So 2X a week for chest and back, 2X a week for legs as I found I could gain strength each time as opposed to stalling.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/19 09:23 PM
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Really good and inspiring stuff from Grant Cardone. One thing I'd add is that if what you're doing is not working, try a slightly different approach, instead of just grinding it out over and over like I did with the 2000 approaches. Keep the end goal the same, but switch it up a bit and experiment with new things. From what I've noticed, it usually does not take more than a couple weeks to notice if a new piece of advice is beneficial, harmful, or in the vast majority of cases, makes absolutely …
/r/TheRedPill03/09/19 08:33 PM
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Mid-High Plat. Huge waste of time that didn't teach me anything useful that could later be applied to the real world. Would highly recommend not ever starting because it's addictive
/r/TheRedPill03/09/19 08:15 PM
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Yeah, I know how you feel brother, definitely wasted sooo much time on the high vibration energy stuff because it sounds so good. Grats on killing it out there
/r/TheRedPill03/09/19 07:33 PM
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Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what I did to advance in my career, switched to more of a revenue generating role as opposed to operations.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/19 07:30 PM
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5'7'' The elevator boots I got from Amazon are mad uncomfortable so I would not recommend them. Sorry I couldn't have been of more help but I'd say do your own research on the best pair of elevator boots to buy. I'd recommend as much height as possible. the majority of your approaches will be in the night where nobody can really tell what you're wearing on your feet anyways, but everyone can see how tall you are. I used to believe height and looks don't matter but it was absolutely bonkers how m…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/19 06:49 PM
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I had some pretty atrocious approaches when I was starting out. I look back on them now and can do nothing but cringe lol. The worst rejection I've ever had was when security kicked me out of a local bar because a girl flipped out at me. I remember having watched a game of thrones episode right before and thinking Euron Greyjoy was a badass and trying to copy his facial expressions while in a conversation with the girl. I guess it came off as autistic and weird as fuck instead of how it looked i…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/19 06:14 PM
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Hey man, that's incredible and you should definitely consider it a blessing that you have such great friends to go out with that are similarly motivated to go out and approach women. Out of every Asian ethnicity, I definitely think Filipinos crush it the most with women. A lot of them are just naturally confident and alpha.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/19 06:05 PM
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Yeah, I live in a major city on the Eastern Coast. Yes, I see black guys killing it, as long as they're average or above average height and in decent shape. Haven't really gamed in the South and I can't offer any useful opinions there.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/19 05:35 PM
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I went with wingmen some nights and some nights alone. I did take dance lessons but for me, the dance floor was not a good place to approach because it's too loud to carry on a conversation so the girl mainly judges you by looks. Far better to approach at the bar and bring to the dance floor if necessary to escalate. Unfortunately, I didn't really have much luck with a wingman but I know that if I wanted to bring my game to the next level, I would need a good wingman because it started getting t…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/19 04:27 PM
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This sounds like you're not smiling during your initial approach. This is one thing I forgot to add in the main post. Smiling a lot is beta behavior in general but during the initial approach, you have to smile AND maintain eye contact in order to be not seen as a creep.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/19 04:17 PM
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First, record yourself and listen to how you sound. Try to talk from your chest and diaphragm, not your throat. It's actually pretty hard to talk loud and in a deep voice, definitely needs practice. A mindset hack is to take 10 really deep breaths and be 100% present to your environment and the present. If my mind is thinking about work or the past, or the future, I'm always going to be at a disadvantage compared to if I'm focused on all the details around me in the present.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/19 04:15 PM
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That's really cool man. Can't really say much since I haven't done any game in Europe so all my experience comes from America
/r/TheRedPill03/09/19 03:52 PM
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That's awesome man. Good luck and make sure to try indirect openers instead of direct and work on your haircut and fashion as well. I hear you, it's pretty easy to treat the whole thing like a massive numbers game instead of a skill once you get to an intermediate level.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/19 03:50 PM
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Yeah, when I started going indirect and focusing on eye contact, body language, tonality, and fashion I found that I got rejected a lot less right from the beginning, which was my main sticking point. Another thing is being a lot less flirty and "gamey" with women. It worked a lot better when I was spending 90% of the time just having a normal conversation with the girl like I would an old friend and only 10% on flirting or witty game stuff.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/19 03:41 PM
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Probably the insane journey of picking up women. It really showed me how important persistence and stubbornness are to success. At the time, I was kind of frustrated because I saw my tall good looking white and black friends get girl after girl without trying, but now I'm grateful to have been able to overcome so many barriers. Also incredibly grateful that success in approaching women also led to success in my career. Dressing better and lifting to low body fat % is good for your career and gir…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/19 03:36 PM
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Clubs, lounges, and bars are the main places that I approached. You simply won't be able to approach in the heavy volume needed to get good without using bars or clubs. In the daytime, the best place to approach is the Train Station because there are always new people coming in and out so you can get a lot of approaches in. In addition, people are naturally either sitting down or standing still, which makes for a much more natural approach as opposed to stopping them walking like on the street. …
/r/TheRedPill03/09/19 03:18 PM
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Was a virgin up until that point
/r/TheRedPill03/09/19 03:15 PM
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Thank you for the helpful advice. I agree with everything except point 1. I believe it's important to set high goals and attempt to reach them and this is something I want in my reality. 1 girl a week doesn't sound too unreasonable given the volume of approaches that I do. Just need to become more outcome independent as you said and the results should start coming in.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/17 03:07 PM
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I accidentally edited the post to include a link to an earlier post I made on reddit. Any idea how I can get the content in the thread back? Automoderator pretty much nuked my post
/r/TheRedPill20/06/17 01:33 PM
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Sorry, accidentally fucked up by posting a link to an earlier post I made on RedPill. Now my post is deleted by the automoderator. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks
/r/TheRedPill20/06/17 12:54 PM
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Thank you Shmog, you're absolutely right that I'm trying way too hard. Do you have any tips to avoid pulling all the time and mix in push pull? I know it's the right thing to do but it's definitely hard for me.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/17 05:23 AM
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What should I have done differently with the first girl? Seems like this is the biggest fuckup of the night based on your analysis. Does respond in kind mean continuing to dance with her before engaging in conversation and moving her to the bar for a drink? Seems like that was my initial plan but she lost interest during the dance. Either way, I don't want to miss opportunities like this the next time they come up.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/17 04:50 PM
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I realize that I started at such a low level compared to everyone else and that I should be grateful for every small success and not stress out so much about every rejection. For me, dealing with massive amounts of rejection is not a choice, it's an utter necessity in progressing to the next step. There simply is no better option for getting better socially
/r/TheRedPill17/06/17 04:44 PM
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Hey Zeddeus, I really appreciate you taking the time to post this well thought out response. You're right that doubling down never works after a rebuff, from my experience so I'll cut that out completely. When you said go out to have fun, is a good way to start to keep approaching girls and having a good time but stop trying to close? My logical brain has a really hard time wrapping itself around the concept of going out with the purpose of having fun instead of trying to get a fuck and getting …
/r/TheRedPill17/06/17 04:33 PM
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Good point, I need to chill out with that.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/17 04:27 PM
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Absolutely. If someone truly wanted to, they would be able to flip it given enough time, focus, and effort. Why you would want to adjust from Straight to Gay is besides the point. I don't agree with this personality is fixed thing because anyone and anyone can change so called "core" personality traits after taking enough action. If I'm socially awkward, I simply go out, take action and keep interacting with people until I change that aspect of my personality. If I'm straight and somehow wish to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 04:34 PM
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This is so stupid. Any aspect of personality can be changed given enough time and effort
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 06:43 AM
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Honestly, this is one of the better posts I've seen here. There's absolutely no excuses for anything. Any man who puts in the work, regardless of starting conditions should have no problem getting laid or at least getting a steady stream of dates. By work, I mean getting to a baseline level of attractiveness and doing mass cold approaching and escalation
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 06:38 AM
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When you point out what they should be doing to fix their dating problem, they simply ignore whatever you have to say and go back to their own little world. Thank you for proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 02:39 AM
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When you point out what they should be doing to fix their dating problem, they simply ignore whatever you have to say and go back to their own little world. I see it again and again and find it incredibly sad that so many people are locked in self-perpetuating cycles like this. Open up your mind dude. Everything you're saying makes sense from a pure logical standpoint but is it working? Has it gotten you any results?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 01:54 AM
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Yes, it would do wonders for your self confidence and for getting out of your own head. Trust me, I can tell by the way you write you think too much and don't have quick social reflexes. All of these can be trained. I was just like you at one point in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 11:38 PM
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I mean in person. A straight cold approach in person. Tinder does not count. Anyone can approach on Tinder, it takes much more balls to approach in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 09:13 PM
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How many girls have you approached? If it's anything less than 500, then your ego is holding you back
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 01:11 PM
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Good point, but a bit too late to edit. Gonna take this as a learning lesson: Take pride and care in everything you produce. Low quality work produces low quality results.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 06:41 PM
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It's not a matter of effort, it's a matter of ego and ridiculous moral standards I guarantee you, if I did all the work and managed to get this Trail22 guy an 8/10 girl naked in his bed, he still wouldn't be able to lose his virginity, he'd keep digging for pointless excuses like how it doesn't count or how it doesn't solve the problem. Guy is smart as hell (have to be to be a programmer) but he's missing a few pieces here and there and they all add up. Look at his posts, they're always full of …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 10:21 PM
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I've talked to you before. You are the definition of someone who doesn't want it badly enough. You think you're doing all this work and that you deserve a girl but you haven't really done anything useful. I told you to go out and approach girls but you refuse to do so
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 03:27 PM
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People today complain too much without actually taking steps to fixing their problems. IMO, the world would be a better place if every man who complained received a quick punch in the face
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 03:21 PM
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Yes, I did see that movie and that scene is truly spot on. Haven't seen it in a while and just watched it again per your reminder, great scene. It's one of the reasons why I have difficulty taking women seriously in all environments. Not a good overall strategy. With so many women in charge of buying decisions all over America, it's a golden opportunity for someone who really understands how to leverage emotions to make a fortune
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 06:00 AM
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With that kind of attitude, you deserve nothing but contempt and mockery until turn your mindset around into something more positive. Everyone giving you sympathy is doing you an absolute disservice and you honestly should be ashamed of yourself for having stumbled through 36 years of life without a single date. At what point do you realize that you've been completely wrong about everything and start opening your mind up to new ideas?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 01:36 AM
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You need to stop giving a damn what other people think about you. If they think you're weird, caring too much and trying to compensate for your weirdness by trying to self-correct weird quirks about yourself on the spot will only make matters worse. Not giving a damn and just continuing to keep the conversation going in spite of how weird you think you are is the first step to not being weird
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 06:35 PM
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It does me no good that the harsh, blunt, nurturing, abrasive, kind personality I like is very rare. I find it quite captivating in men and women. Dude you're either one weird motherfucker or gay. I'm honestly leaning towards the latter. If not, there's a long road ahead. The first key to not being seen as a creep is to stop giving a damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 05:38 AM
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Very sensible post and I take full responsibility if my post made it seem like the conversation should swing wildly from compliments to insults like a bi-polar person. I merely wanted to illustrate the difference between what most guys think is a good conversation at the end of a date and what most women would consider as a good conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 11:16 PM
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There's an obvious emotional connotation to talking about something you feel passionately about with someone So you pretty much admit that every time you got laid it's because you managed to trigger her emotions during the conversation. Seems more a proof than a disproof
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 11:12 PM
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Most intelligent comment in this thread by far. Should be commended for your keen observation. To elaborate, he is talking about the Myers Briggs test where certain personality types "Sensing, and Feeling" mesh better with the emotional conversational method discussed here whereas the rare Intuition and Thinking types of women will be scared off
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 11:08 PM
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I'm sorry man, but after reading this, I hate to say it but you will never succeed with women without drastic changes. It's the honest truth. You don't want it badly enough. I had a friend just like you who couldn't get attracted to women unless he knew her. He's still a virgin today. I highly recommend getting your testosterone levels checked because what you just described is not normal male behavior at all. I honestly think you should try to find out if you're gay or not, no joke, and I don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 11:04 PM
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Upbringing combined with low testosterone
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 02:24 AM
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I want to commend you for bringing this up. But in the real world, let's face it, it would be very difficult for a woman to resist the Phantom. Every girl I've seen the movie or watched the play with would choose him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 04:56 PM
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Nothing. An ugly, short man is ugly by genetic factors and the only way he will break through is by applying redpill factors and appealing to the large subset of women who are turned on emotional spikes and excitement. He will not be able to wait around and wait for a girl to make the first move like a more conventionally attractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 02:47 PM
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That's because men in general have less connection to their emotions than women. The very act of gift giving is an act of emotional transfer where you're telling the other person, "I care about you". Naturally, women would be better at such an activity
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 02:42 PM
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Agreed, anyone who would choose Guy A's life over Guy B needs to get their testosterone levels checked
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 06:52 PM
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He gave up at the end. Anyone who gives up by default doesn't want it bad enough
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 05:18 PM
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Agreed. The reason for your failure is that you refuse to go out and aggressively approach women. it's always one excuse after another.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 01:56 PM
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As a matter of fact, I think I've seen you before. You're the guitar guy that I gave step by step instructions to on how to cold approach girls and you somehow dismissed my advice by saying that you're happy where you are now. Unbelievable how you've made zero progress in all this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 01:53 PM
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knowing my place and cutting down on flirting and approaching women as potential partners made social interactions go much more smoothly Self defeating mentality. You seriously need to stop with those.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 01:52 PM
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I'm sorry man, but you really have to look at the mirror and realize that you are exactly the kind of unsuccessful guy that this post is talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 01:35 PM
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It's so incredibly sad that someone as intelligent and eloquent as you, can't turn your analytical skills on yourself. Do you even hear what you're saying? Dude, the truth is amazingly complex, I get that, but just look at your mentality. You are exactly the kind of guy who could really benefit from dropping your preconceived notions of morality or beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 01:31 PM
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Dude you have exactly the kind of mentality that this post is talking about. If I ask you why you don't aggressively approach girls, you'll come back and say it's wrong or that it won't work for you, without even giving a serious attempt. At what point does someone say enough is enough and take a good long look in the mirror?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 01:26 PM
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I feel for you man, I truly do. I was in the exact same place you were at one point in my life. The truth hurts man, it hurts like hell. Your "morals" are the only thing holding you back from getting women in your life, I guarantee that. Look around you and truly see how beautiful life is, it's a much better mentality than the negative "realism" you have right now. It's hard to look in the mirror and realize that what you've been doing is completely wrong but it's the first step towards massive …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 01:22 PM
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Great, I never said that you can't have morals and be successful with women. Only that people who are unsuccessful with women tend to have strict morals
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 01:14 PM
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Dude, please don't take this the wrong way, but what I'm about to say is going to do you a world of good. You are exactly the kind of guy this post is talking about. Your self improvement is the same as Trail22, in that you only take up a lot of hobbies and think that's going to solve your problem instead of actually aggressively approaching girls. If I ask you why you don't want to go out and approach girls, you'll come back at me and say that it reeks of desperation or that it's wrong to do so…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 01:12 PM
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I've been in that same self-pitying phase before, only difference is I didn't even have the double digit girls under my count that you do so I couldn't even tell myself that I'd be capable of attracting women if I want to. The key to long term success with cold approach, in my humble opinion, is to get addicted to it. Willpower and self discipline will die out eventually, but our addictions get built up over time instead of decreasing. Modern life is too boring so everyone has their own way of f…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 05:29 AM
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Not necessarily a bad thing. As a man, it feels better to eat a meal that you went out and hunted for yourself, not something that was handed to you on a platter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 02:51 AM
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I feel so bad for you that you were hurt badly enough by society to develop this kind of mindset. If there's anything you need, just send me a PM, I'd be more than happy to share the truth and get you some results
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 11:51 PM
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They don't want it badly enough. Simple as that. I know that sounds really cliche but it's something I've seen again and again, from numerous people in real life and people from here (trail22). A man who seriously commits to a solid few years of self improvement while constantly approaching girls has a 99.99% chance of getting laid. What you see with people like this is strong INFJ tendencies (the rarest personality type and by far the worst when it comes to getting girls), where every action th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 11:48 PM
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Great post, this should be upvoted to the top
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 11:34 PM
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Genghis Khan was the greatest conqueror and alpha male in human history. I'm honestly very surprised and disappointed that you've somehow managed to pervert his name into something so wimpy sounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 11:31 PM
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They don't want it badly enough. Simple as that. I know that sounds really cliche but it's something I've seen again and again, from numerous people in real life and people from here (trail22). A man who seriously commits to a solid few years of self improvement while constantly approaching girls has a 99.99% chance of getting laid. What you see with people like this is strong INFJ tendencies (the rarest personality type and by far the worst when it comes to getting girls), where every action th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 11:24 PM
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I can respect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 06:52 PM
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This is exactly what I would have thought 2 months ago. But I'm a man who lets the results dictate the advice, not the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 06:25 PM
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Everyone will be shit tested in interactions with women given enough time. I think that if anything, getting into a relationship will result in more shit tests, not less, based solely on personal experience. You might have a completely different perspective based on your own experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 05:49 PM
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In a lot of cases yes, it plays out exactly like you said, but you would be surprised how many times these girls end up getting into bed with you. I would say a good 1/3 of the time, the girl will actually respond positively if you keep the conversation going, which is more than enough to warrant the extra time spent
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 05:20 PM
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Great comparison, best comment I've read all day
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 03:42 PM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 03:33 PM
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It'd be a pretty boring world if most girls were as straightforward as you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 03:28 PM
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Believe me, that was totally my mentality as well, and it's totally fine. It's not like moving on and going to the next girl is necessarily wrong, it's just that there's a better option out there. The amount of girls you can actually convert into lays who say they have a boyfriend initially will surprise you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 02:49 PM
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With that kind of thinking, you'll never get a woman out of your league, except through an incredibly high volume of approaches, which is not efficient or sustainable over the long term
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 02:47 PM
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So you're telling me every time you told a guy you have a boyfriend, you actually had one? I find that very difficult to believe, and even if you did, you wouldn't be in the majority. I'm merely suggesting that guys stop treating this line as the end of the interaction, because I've seen so many first hand experiences where it's not
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 02:44 PM
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I care about time efficiency. I simply noticed that it's a better use of my time to try to overcome that token boyfriend objection than move on to the next girl. It's not a matter of caring, it's a matter of results
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 02:38 PM
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It's actually a very bad sign if she brings it up after a long time talking to you, it means that either you didn't demonstrate enough value throughout the entire interaction or she actually does have a boyfriend, either of which is tough to overcome as opposed to token "I have a boyfriend" resistance you'll get in the first 5 seconds
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 02:30 PM
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That's a very good point, and definitely something that I've noticed as well, thank you for bringing it up
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 02:27 PM
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I find it incredibly sad every time I read about a man who has given up on the dating market. PM me if you ever want to take a shot at turning things around
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 02:24 PM
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Trail22 is a really smart dude with high potential due to his work ethic. Been having multiple conversations with the guy and I'm confident he'll find success once he fixes a few things and starts applying the right principles to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 04:09 PM
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This is an unbelievable post. Summarizes a lot of useful stuff. In my opinion after seeing who succeeds and who fails with redpill/pua stuff, there really are certain categories of guys that should work on developing social skills before hitting on women: 1) Guys with extreme social anxiety - I had a friend that would literally not be able to do more than a few approaches without having his heart feel like it's gonna jump out of his chest. 2) Guys with severe depression - Met some people like th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 04:59 PM
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If someone doesn't believe they can succeed, then they don't deserve to succeed. If someone tries their best and fails, they need to re-examine their methodology and try again until they reach success.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 03:56 PM
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Ah, the classic overthinker. Thinks his IQ is all it takes to understand a topic and frame it into terms he can understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 03:52 PM
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If you are struggling, it is more useful to listen to advice from someone who has also struggled in the past rather than someone who everything comes naturally to. This is similar to how if your Dad was just a natural at Math, he wouldn't be able to teach it to you as well as if he had to struggle to learn it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 03:43 AM
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You keep talking about happiness as if your current state of existence is happy. Give me a break. There is no way you would be posting so much negative material on here if you were truly happy. You honestly ought to be ashamed of yourself. Giving up before the fight is even over.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 07:12 AM
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Every interaction involves some form of manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 12:19 AM
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In my opinion, daygame is the best way for a guy to learn how to talk to girls because you'll learn extremely quickly and directly from each failure and success.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 12:17 AM
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Agreed, hard no should be taken seriously, no arguments there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 05:29 PM
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Never tried to refute TRP or PUA. You acquire more social skills by simply talking to more people with a focus on increasing your awareness of others and considering their needs. When I said "good base", I didn't mean to train really hard and get super good before approaching girls. I meant that if you don't have any friends and were a loner your whole life, something is obviously wrong and spam approaching girls won't fix the problem as much as going to meetups and learning a "baseline" level o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 05:27 PM
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This man gets it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 05:23 PM
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That click thing is just the result of building up a good base of social skills and then just meeting and having conversations with a lot of women. You can either go to meetup groups or meet them through social circle, or do what I did: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5f8e2k/anyone_who_wants_a_girl_should_just_approach_more/ Eventually, you will meet someone you click with. If you don't, then reevaluate your looks and your social skills, fix the issue, and try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 04:28 PM
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I think I've gotten like 2 IOI's out of 300 or so approaches I did. 1 of them wasn't interested, 1 of them I number closed but got flaked on when I set up the date. Every date and lay I've ever gotten was from women who never gave any initial IOI's, so in my opinion, you don't need to be on the hunt for IOI's before approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 06:15 PM
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Obviously it's not optimal. Optimally, I would take a completely passive approach where my SMV is high enough that women approach me and all I have to do is screen them. The problem is that you won't ever get to that stage if you have poor social skills and the fastest way to improve them is to have conversations with strangers. If you can get a girl's number and take her on insta-dates, it's a piece of cake to network at an event, believe me. If there's people on here who think that a high IQ w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 06:04 PM
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Your Dad sounds like a great man. Wish I had proper male role models growing up so I wouldn't have to train social skills as an adult by cold approaching strangers lol I can't tell you how many times I've walked into a store and cold approached the cute girl there while her two male co-workers just walk away and leave us alone, it's amazing what happens when you carry yourself in a natural way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 07:14 AM
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Mall cops. Was a bit too pushy when trying to get a girl's number so she reported me to mall security after I left the store.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 07:03 AM
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Yeah, it was only mall security, not real cops. Still scary at the time though, almost pissed my pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 06:56 AM
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You do all these indirect things for getting women but ignore the straight line from point A to point B which is to approach and ask out more girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 11:33 PM
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You have high potential as an autistic. Once you learn social skills, which should only take 1-2 years of hard grinding, you will have a distinct competitive advantage over those around you in that you won't have as much fear to approach women that normies have, meaning that after you acquire baseline social skills, it'll only be 3-6 months of approaching women to reach levels beyond normie. It's hard for normal people to grasp but once you get in the right rhythm, it's incredibly easy for an au…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 11:30 PM
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Having the moral high ground in exchange for a life of loneliness and quiet desperation. Yeah, okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 05:09 PM
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It's not about the effort, it's about the result.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 05:03 PM
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Trail22 is an INFJ. Those types never do well because they care too much about morals to take action with women. The guy would literally rather post on reddit about his romantic troubles than go out, approach girls, and take the necessary steps to getting laid, all because he doesn't want to sacrifice his morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 12:52 AM
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Totally agree. The truth is saying things like "FA will build character" are just coping mechanisms for convincing yourself that you don't need to change and do the things necessary to get laid. Society is absolutely right that if you can't get laid, you should feel bad about yourself because if you wanted it badly enough, you would take the necessary steps to make it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 12:43 AM
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Every so often, I'll stumble upon a thread and see a comment with this guy's negativity in it. Please disregard everything he is saying. He is a someone who enjoys complaining more than he does actually doing the work to get results. It's like he gets this kind of catharsis from making extremely discouraging posts on reddit and telling his life story to everyone. He pretty much keeps repeating the same stuff over and over again (Woe is me, I tried so hard but still failed, you have no idea how h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 02:30 PM
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This is the best post about minority dating I've ever read, on any forum. From personal experience, I know that I have to try at least 3 times harder than white guys to achieve the same results: be 3 times more fit, approach 3 times more girls, have 3 times better game. The difference in SMV from race is really significant and ignoring it would be the most bluepill wishful thinking ever. That being said, I've still managed to work my ass off and get laid with white girls so I know it can be over…
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