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I did say she needs to be thin. But yeah, money does wonders hehehehehehehe I'm red pill. Hear me roar! Ooooh look, a woman with money... I'm whore, I'm a whore, I'm a whore....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 10:44 PM
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TBP is basically straight white male = evil No.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 12:39 AM
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You gave the example of people you know. And so did I.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 08:29 PM
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Bring him to PPD. The women can glorify him and put him on a pedestal. And the terps can alternately throw rocks and ask for all his chadly secrets.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 08:02 PM
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No, because lots of my friends had casual sex and now they're almost all happily married. Their husbands didn't care and they did the same. 1.Women like sex 2.Some women go through a stage where they just want to have fun, cue Cyndi Lauper 3.Doesn't affect them negatively at all I think terpers have been riding the CC too long (Chad's Cock, metaphorically) and it's warping their perceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 07:44 AM
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Women can't fuck a psychological concept. Chad exists or he doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 07:22 AM
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Yup. 100% legit PPD. Roll on, 2017, straight back into the mud pit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 07:20 AM
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I like blue collar guys too, though I don't like thick - brains or body.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 05:26 AM
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Yep, very average.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 05:22 AM
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Women have the same natural female desires towards sex. They want it and they want it with lots of men. But they settle for one man for the sake of kids. You don't have to turn it into something it's not, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 05:02 AM
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No. Men sexual nature is predatory, period. Most normal people recognize this. What the hell? No, it isn't. If it was, no man would marry and have kids. You could call women's sexuality predatory as well, in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 05:00 AM
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Oh come on. You're not that green. (get it? you're not green...) There are reds with 'misogyny' in their flairs. It's just a reaction to that and a little joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 04:45 AM
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Apologies. Will ignore them in future.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 02:23 AM
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Blue isn't anti white male. My partner is a white male and so are lotsa my friends. And my dad. And lots of people I respect the shit out of. Yes, I'm thinking of having that flair printed on a t-shirt and wearing it with misandric pride.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 02:22 AM
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But this of course works in your favour. I think she's attractive. But it doesn't favour me to prove trp wrong. I wish they'd go more in the right direction, for the sake of the young 'uns.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 02:18 AM
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I agree. Likewise, it's more beneficial for the child that the father has his children before his mid-thirties. Many sperm banks, even though they are short of sperm, won't take sperm from men older then 35 - for that same reason. And so 28 is the same age for both men and women from any perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 11:16 PM
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There are plenty of women now who are choosing a child over a career so I don't think we are dying out as a species just yet. And if they didn't make the choice, we'd soon all have deep concerns - way before we got to the extinction stage. Just look at Japan. Therefore, having kids isn't a choice for women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 11:16 PM
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Forgive my oversight. Three cheers for MGTOW!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 11:16 PM
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I don't know if I agree with that. Even the faq on this sub points out that RPers and BPers don't adhere to a strict set of beliefs. You would not be part of a movement that had beliefs you were strongly opposed to. That would be hypocritical. No sworn member of the KKK would believe in "race-mixing" or diversity or immigration. If they say they're KKK but don't believe in those things, then they're disagreeing with the fundamental principles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 11:16 PM
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Yes, the exquisite nuances of philosophical insights will live on as fine art.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 11:10 PM
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I agree. And I think all red pillers should avoid single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 09:20 PM
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True that some women sacrifice having children for their career - although a large percentage of those women do not want to have children, so there is that. Women overall do not have the choice of not having children. It's a ridiculous thing to say. We'll die out as a species.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 09:13 PM
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Easy to prove you wrong because we have stay at home fathers who very much believe they are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 09:09 PM
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No. Things like cars are very, very different and a comparison cannot be made. We're talking ideologies here. Going back to my example, if you're KKK, then that's a very serious statement of your beliefs. You cannot be a "little bit" KKK any more than you can be a "little bit" pregnant. You either are or you're not. Same as with the red pill. They have very distinct theories and beliefs. The beliefs are so extreme that very few of them wish to go public with them. You are either red pill or you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 09:08 PM
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My call is for debaters to focus on the alleged low value of single mothers and not attack the language. Why? It's a low effort post full of enraged, bitter emotion that serves little purpose. Why should any thinking person have to mine a piece of trash for some scraps of meaning? You're saying reds should be allowed be nasty little children and blues should be the adults in PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 09:02 PM
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Can only answer for myself. No, it hasn't become looser with age or the births of my children (and they were vaginal births). I was super-tight as a virgin, but that was due to a thick hymen, and made the first attempts at sex horrible - so painful that I was tightening up due to the pain. Sex was just about impossible at that point and I pretty much thought I was going to hate penises for the rest of my life. After having kids, my vagina is different - some scar tissue from tearing and it looks…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 08:53 PM
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For a woman it's not. From your perspective. Which doesn't matter to any woman on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 08:34 PM
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If we agree on this, can we agree that women who prioritized their career and don't have any good men left is their own problem? Yes. Can we agree that women being sexually objectified for wearing revealing clothing is their problem? Yes. We can't control people's thoughts. As long as women are not harassed, people are free to think what they want when looking at a woman. (Women are sexually objectified no matter what they wear). Women do not harass men they're not attracted to. And women are fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 08:28 PM
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male sexuality is treated more negatively than female sexuality, especially when we consider people with low SMV. You are kidding me. Women's sexuality has been diminished forever. I was shamed here in PPD the other day for expressing an interest in sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 08:23 PM
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I spent the first six years of my life in a Catholic grade school I assure you, my sexuality was persecuted. I felt guilty as fuck just touching myself for years after. Do you have any idea what it feels like to have to "confess your sins" to someone as a 12 year old because you rubbed one out?! Do you realise that girls go through exactly the same thing in a Catholic school? They also have to confess to masturbation and unseemly thoughts about boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 08:20 PM
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Additionally, TRP/TBP are not hive minds. Ideally there should be no team mentality coming into play. Team defense is exactly the reason I see so many dead end arguments here vehemently defending some absurd rhetoric from either side. Argue your OWN opinions ffs. Nope. This is what PPD is about: PurplePillDebate is a neutral community to discuss sex and gender issues, specifically those pertaining to /r/TheBluePill and /r/TheRedPill. TheRedPill has to defend red pill theories. Otherwise, why are…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 08:06 PM
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There are lots of men desperate for sex and at least some modicum of respect from their wives. And lots of women desperate for exactly those same two things. I know because I used to be one of those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 07:57 PM
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That's fucking silly. Powerpuff girls forevah!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 07:56 PM
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A "man" and "there for the children" are mutually exclusive You don't get to define what a man is. Each individual man does.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 07:55 PM
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She's very attractive, so the pillosphere will probably try to use that angle - that the wall didn't happen for her. But yes, the terps can't spin away the fact that this guy is at the pinnacle and could have the most stunning and youngest women in the world at his fingertips. Yet he went for love and (I'd say) respect for a woman's accomplishments.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 07:53 PM
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And then for some reason, they mostly get divorced. Thinking about the celebrity/sporting star marriages that come to mind - yes, you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 07:44 PM
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You are stuck on the one thought all the time. All.The.Time There are lots of women desperate for some love and attention from their husbands. You don't know because you don't want to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 07:40 PM
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Does the man receive his full salary when he takes off work? As a lawyer? As a car salesman? As a server? Can the company function without them there for long periods of time? Will their absence possibly affect them getting promoted? I wouldn't "cash out" as a sahd because I'd probably be doing some business venture out of the home in free time while baby sleeps. And there you have it. Of course there would be lots of negatives. But if your goal was not to work, you'd put up with those things. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 07:39 PM
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Ooh has someone here got another account they post under?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 08:41 AM
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Amal is very high status.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 08:40 AM
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It was most likely her status. He might have been attracted but the chance of him marrying her would have been extremely low. It's not a nice stat, but the number of white men marrying black women is very low compared to the number of white women marrying black men. Serena has a high status as well as good looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 08:38 AM
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Would he be marrying her if she wasn't a rich and famous tennis star? That is also a question that must be asked. The red pill says a man like him would be seeking the youngest and prettiest wife he can and he doesn't give a brass razoo about her accomplishments or money.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 08:34 AM
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It's neither. I, and quite a few of my friends, come from a poorer area. Lots of people didn't even get married. But if you're a woman who married a man who abuses you, everyone thinks it's great you got out. I don't think they lose status. But... it's certainly not a status boost. That's craaaaazy talk!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 08:29 AM
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Fucked if I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 03:22 AM
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And how...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 02:54 AM
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The answer to all of this is in the comments of one of the linked articles. Women who want a career and family cannot do it all. They need to marry a less career-minded man who can be there for the children. shitestirrer • 6 years ago Women still want to marry 'up'. Its ingrained your DNA. All this talk about wanting an intellectual or financial equal is absolute rubbish. In the end its about finding a provider for when the baby comes. The trouble is, the baby is much less likely to come if a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 02:28 AM
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Well, it's been fun being back in the schoolyard for a while, but I have grownup things to do now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 02:15 AM
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Well gee, as long as you have a study. Studies. Plural. Are you a man? No, I have a luscious vagina that serves me well. Comes with whips and chains to keep men under its control.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 02:13 AM
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Lol, you really dont get men, do you... Do you? If a man can be a trust fund baby, sure he might be happier not working. But for the rest of men, who have to work to get money, yes they do want to work in good jobs. The biggest predictor of suicide in men is poverty. And the only way out of poverty for most men is a good job. In the late 1990s, it was men in their 20s who were most at risk from suicide; today it is men in their 40s. As Murphy points out, it's the same cohort, and is evidence of …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 02:10 AM
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Nope, when he just doesn't look at her or engage in conversation or hold her or treat her like his partner (and not his house cleaner/cook/child minder) - that is when things slide.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 01:32 AM
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I don't need to do it myself. I can look at studies for that. It's even well-documented that men who retire can go downhill quickly - depression, lack of motivation and even dying within a few years. Many men enjoy retirement but many also don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 12:39 AM
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She sounds great! I detest cleaning and so does my partner. We just put up with a house that is clean but not always tidy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 12:37 AM
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Women do not need an "emotional connection" to stay married to a man. Sorry, but it's the most important thing for most women in a relationship. Yep, sexual attraction and respect are both real things, but she can get that from a man she doesn't share her life with. "I love you but am not in love with you" is a real thing too. I'm not discounting it. All the love he can give her won't help if she's lost attraction/never was attracted. But most women having problems in a relationship (with a man …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 12:35 AM
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Most men want to work. They know they wouldn't 'cash out' if they were to become full time SAHDs and they don't want to do it. When men are offered time off from work after a baby, they more often than not don't take it or don't take the full amount of weeks they could have.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 12:03 AM
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That's the dumbest thing I've heard today. Most men would rather not work period. I disagree with that. I think most men do want to work - often just not in the job they're doing. Studies even show men are happier when working. But feel free to show me what you base your opinion on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 12:00 AM
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No, the internetz are rife with women saying they have no emotional connection with their husbands anymore, and that their husbands don't talk with them/walk with them/spend time with them. I am trying to convince my partner to quit work and start his own business from home. My business is doing very well and we can afford it, and I just want to see him more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 10:37 PM
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Even in the cases of 50/50, your still only seeing your children half the time But most men want to keep working after divorce. Most actually don't want the kids full-time. And many chase women after divorce and don't see the kids much at all. It's usually after they settle down with a new woman that they suddenly want full custody/half custody of the kids, because they have installed a woman in their house who can take care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 10:33 PM
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I want a house-husband like your list ;) (But I also want decades of kinky sex from him). Trying to convince my partner to give up work and start his own business, so he can be at home. I should so get a cleaning person. I think it's just the thought of having a stranger in the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 10:27 PM
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Then why is your advice to your teenage self all about what a woman should do? Regardless of the penis, do you identify as a man or woman? Am genuinely confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:10 PM
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I feel like he's writing his personal diary angst on here in his OPs and comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:07 PM
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Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 07:57 PM
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Do not get distracted by men, until you've done everything you want to do and achieved everything you want to achieve and found things you didn't even know you'd find.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 07:51 PM
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self reported site. "All of the salary data on PayScale is self-reported by employees working in the jobs. None is provided by companies. We do a lot of work to ensure there is no systematic bias in the data. We’ve spent almost 15 years working on our Market Match algorithm and survey methods. And, to ensure we’re on the mark, we make regular comparisons to other salary datasets, including those compiled from companies. Our data is very highly correlated to those other datasets. What’s beneficia…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 01:20 PM
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Their lives could be more sheltered or they are more in touch with their feelings so they recognise them accurately. Except women are not more sheltered than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:39 PM
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Yep. And I think it's confronting to people to know that there will never come a time when everyone thinks the way they do. Different groups of people will always approach the same issue from different directions - and we've needed that diversity to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:33 PM
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Seriously? You're grasping for straws here. High school teacher, $57,200 per year, You gave me the median teacher's salary, dude. "The median annual wage for high school teachers was $57,200 in May 2015." I gave you the typical mid-career salary. And that mid-career income is of course going to be even less in some states: https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/education/reports/2014/07/23/94168/mid-and-late-career-teachers-struggle-with-paltry-incomes/ Same for all the others. I think I'm done…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:26 PM
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Being chad is always fun actually Yes, we all know terps fantasise about Chad's sex life Women are mostly only good for pump and dump these days. I get it. Women are the grapes. You are the sore loser fox who says they're sour cos you can't reach the ones you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:20 PM
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Ssshhh, you'll trigger them!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 09:14 AM
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I am very much aware men use to be teachers, but you seem to not be aware I am talking about today not the past. Men left it voluntarily. They can go back voluntarily. If they go back and even up the ratio, they'll change whatever culture exists. I don't believe it's sexism 'keeping men out'. It's prestige and pay. Mid-career salaries: $43,000 teacher, $40,000 social worker, landscape artist, $51,000, truck driver $46,000 (long haul $100,000+), construction contractor $56,000, telephone equipmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 09:13 AM
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You're a woman??? You do all that stuff for your husband? I thought I was calling a male lazy for wanting all that in a wife, and then not providing her with decades of kinky sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:50 AM
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Ummmm no I would never say that. I have never hung around guys. Their sports talk gets boring. A sex drive doesn't have to mean I'm one of the boys. But I do feel that kind of pressure from certain women not to talk about liking sex so much. Have never been able to work out what that's all about.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:49 AM
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No, not just anyone. Has to be what attracts me specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:43 AM
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Sorry dude, stable horses don't get to choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:41 AM
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A nympho cannot control who they have sex with. That's not me. I thought I was normal but hey, maybe I'm desperate!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:38 AM
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Complete stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 05:32 AM
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No one can expect that of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 04:40 AM
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I both agree and disagree. Popular culture/entertainment tells us that women remain attracted to very young men all their lives. (Many/most women, not all women) I don't need any context to find an image of a man sexually arousing. I've been like this since I was 16. I can look at a photograph of just his face and feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 04:36 AM
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They notice that the guy's attractive, but they're not filing him away in a spank bank the way men are. An easier way to say it is that women compartmentalize situations - when we're in a situation that isn't sexy, we're not going to be sexually attracted to anyone. We'll notice if they're good looking, but that's it. IMO, that should be the definition of "desperate" for a woman - being so obsessed with sex/romance that she'll feel sexual attraction in inappropriate situations. I was never despe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 04:34 AM
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They pay for sex in many cases. You find paid sex funny? Ok. Whatever floats your goat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 04:27 AM
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The question is for the ladies of BP. Apparently, /u/Atlas_B_Shruggin is not a lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 04:26 AM
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No benefit in being the "stable" male for modern women. But we like stable males. It's convenient. You go out to the stable and select and ride the one you want. And put him back afterwards. Of course, you need to groom all the males regularly, so that they stay fond of you and also look good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 04:24 AM
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If a dude hasn't been able to achieve "Chad" status, why would he not go MGTOW? If a dude thinks in terms of 'Chad' and 'MGTOW' and he hasn't been able to achieve 'Chadliness' he should definitely go MGTOW. A male obtains no obligation from his "wife" for cooking, cleaning, housework, sex, etc. She gets no obligation from him for cooking, cleaning or sex either. I got none of those from a previous partner. In fact, she owes him literally NOTHING under the current marriage contract while he is on…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 04:15 AM
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I think the reason it endured is because it's usually accurate. Horoscopes on the other hand are ignored by most people or thought of as a bit of fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 03:46 AM
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Yep, so none of you terps should ever get married. Because you definitely can go the sugar daddy route. The women will become ever more demanding of your money/gifts as you age but your income will also increase over time, so you should be able to afford it. Not sure why any of you ever talk about marriage because none of you should do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 03:41 AM
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You sound lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 03:35 AM
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Basically, 'being tired' of something means that it's hella interesting in terpland. Just like Chad's cock. They're tired of it poking into their targets (women) and blocking their way, but at the same time they can't stop talking about it. I like the new username :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 03:31 AM
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Yeah but I get tired from the incessant whining from the post-waaaaaah Chad's (metaphorical) Cock riders in newspapers/online articles TRP about "where are the good menwomen at?"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 03:25 AM
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Why would men want a job where they face sexism in? You don't seem to know that men used to largely be the teachers, and then men left the teaching profession of their own choice. And there are other jobs that pay higher than teaching and nursing. And men will totally not have contempt for the women hired for being woman either. I'm sure some will. Just like women had contempt for men being hired back when they didn't stand a chance, just because they were female. No half/half back then. Women s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 03:21 AM
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Probably true. But should women not lie about it? I mean, what can men do about it? It just makes them feel bad. And, I think most women who find a man who has everything she wants in a partner but for penis size, she's going to overlook that one thing. I used to have a partner with a large penis who was almost always too tired for sex. Would I have rathered a man with a small penis who liked sex all the time? Yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 09:10 PM
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Differences in spatial and verbal ability on the other hand are consistently observed and thus exist. Might be nurture though Yes those differences have existed. But if children were educated differently, with different expectations held of them, I wonder what might happen? Because the link I gave is showing different results than in previous years: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/9401241/IQ-tests-women-score-higher-than-men.html We know that boys and girls brains are rewired …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 09:04 PM
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I scored 13. I assumed my score would be higher, towards the aspie range. I'm a high IQ INTP-INTJ who is socially awkward and cannot stand chit-chat, and I often prefer things to people, and I get so involved in projects that real life fades away.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 08:57 PM
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Bullshit. But again facts don't matter here. As its not like women been hired over men for jobs like teaching, nursing, etc. Correct, it's not like women have been hired over men for teaching and nursing. Men largely don't want to do those jobs. Jobs that are dominated by women end up having less pay and prestige. Notice how feminists don't give a damn about the lack of men in any female dominated job/industry? I don't think this is true. Everyone is stumped on how to attract more men into teach…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 08:37 PM
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No, but they are displacing men tho. By that I mean companies in various industries are hiring women over that of men and such making men leave said industry. Men are and have always been hired over women and kept women out. Just tryin' to balance things out, bro. Where an equally qualified contingent of women exists for an industry, why shouldn't women be hired in equal numbers to men? Studies show otherwise. Studies do not. Thousands of years of male dominance and education have left things ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:32 AM
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"evidence" hahahahahahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:08 AM
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You don't seem to realise that a citation should be more than a flimsy link to magazine articles in which publishers will print any old anecdotal flibber flabber to pad their content. I'm afraid I won't be looking at your googlefu'd flibber flabber.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 04:38 AM
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feminists just want to be able to do everything men do and be as respected as men are for the same things men are. Women have always worked. It largely hasn't been respected. But I don't think they want respect as much as just the ability to pursue the careers that interest them, without discrimination. The fact that women's mothering and work inside and outside the home hasn't been respected is to blame for some aspects of women's view of those things today.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 12:37 AM
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That's a gynocentric Hollywood myth. The reality is more that women around 30 who marry are far more likely to do so because they feel a pang of desperation and try to settle down before things get even bleaker. Citation. Doesn't reflect all I see and know of. From my perspective, at least that I can corroborate. Or let's rather say: most women who have stable relationships (whether it's during their 20s or not) do so with betas. And.... drumroll... most women in their 20s are in relationships. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 12:34 AM
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I don't think rich people are sitting up there trying to figure out how to fuck over poor people, and frankly, I'm pretty sure the armchair sociologists here on reddit (and even the real sociologists in academia) have no goddamn clue how wealth at that level works. Sigh. I didn't say they did. I said it's not like (most) of them plan to do what they do. And not all rich people are fucking over poor people. We all know about sweat shops, low-paid workers, over-worked employees, selling baby milk …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 09:38 PM
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Your premise is flawed. Most women marry in their late 20s/early 30s to a man they love and adore and are very attracted to. Difficult to debate something that doesn't make sense. Also, most women have relationships with genuine nice guy betas in their 20s. They either have a series of relationships with betas until they find the man that they think is 'the one' or they find 'the one' earlier. The average women has a very small number of casual sex encounters - with betas. A smaller number of wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 09:26 PM
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Entitled is not a synonym for evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 09:15 PM
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1.Women don't want to be men and are not trying to be men. That's not what equality between the genders means. Women wanting careers/jobs doesn't mean they're saying "we're as good as you" to men. It means they're saying we have the capability to do the job and we want to do it. Women bring different perspectives and skills to the workforce, and the notion of being "as good as men" doesn't even compute. 2.Women don't 'disregard' men's physical strength. Our society celebrates men's physical stre…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 09:11 PM
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I'd argue no, the average woman works basic jobs mostly focusing on people management or doing routine things. Sorry to shatter your illusions, but that describes most men's jobs, too. Did you realise that truck driving is the most popular job for men? Bet you didn't. Feminism says that motherhood is a wonderful and fulfilling choice, but not at all times for all women and not at all for some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 08:58 PM
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No, you're wrong there, on a few accounts. Lots of people, both men and women, see what patriarchy did to the less affluent. 'Rich men' include both men and women and I didn't say they were evil or that they had a diabolical plan. Patriarchy is simply about empowering the rich at the expense of everyone else, but it's not (always) a plan. They just think they're entitled to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 08:50 PM
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Perfect username for that comment :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 01:50 PM
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It is about raising women's lot in life... at the expense of male power, identity, and purpose. Patriarchy - raising richer men's lot in life at the expense of poorer men and women's power, identity and purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 01:46 PM
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Evil, patriarchal capitalists ended up producing contraceptives. Wut?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 01:39 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 01:37 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 01:02 PM
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Hard to tell - you're being funny, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 07:32 PM
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if in 3000 years masculinity exists much different that ours today, that will be the only masculinty that matters, not the one we knew about. I was talking about the near future - within a decade or two. But I agree that we'll all adjust to changing masculinity. Except if tons of men get left without work over a short space of time. We've already seen the effects of men who are suddenly left without work.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 12:12 PM
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The biggest advantage men have over women is mental strength and determination. Women undergo childbirth - they have more mental strength and determination than men will ever realise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 12:10 PM
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But that isn't true. The biggest advantage men have over women is the ability to reproduce without pregnancy, and have optimally healthy offspring without breastfeeding. In the near future, women will be able to cheaply freeze slices of their ovaries, grafting them back when they're ready to have children. Menopause then won't happen for 15 or so years later than normal. I was talking about the near future in my OP, and women won't have to worry as much about children interrupting their careers …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 12:07 PM
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If our species isn't dimorphic at some point it will probably stop. I can't see that changing. Women are smaller because it's a compromise between the size of a body needed to house a foetus and making that body as compact as possible so that her nutritional needs are not so great they take nutrition away from the growing foetus.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 04:28 AM
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You can still definitely get through. But only because of all the dudes (and some women) who do the physical heavy lifting in our society. Yes, I forgot moving house - another thing men largely do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 11:34 PM
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Physical strength is pretty useless in practical terms now Delivery drivers often lift heavy loads - it's in the job description. And truck driving is the most dominant male job. In this day and age, you can't really say that having broad shoulders offers any meaningful protection, as anyone could simply shoot you Agree! But as long as those things remain attractive, men will always find ways to emphasise these qualities. Look at the popularity of MMA / UFC, for example. Yes, things like that co…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 10:16 PM
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Yes, exactly this. At my partner's workplace, there used to be thousands of workers on the factory floors. Now, while the company had grown by leaps and bounds, the factory floors are staffed by a handful of people. And even those few people often manage to hurt themselves by doing stupid things that they know they're not allowed to do, like jumping over "do not enter" barriers to fix a machine - costing the company an enormous amount in compensation and insurance premiums. The vast majority of …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 10:12 PM
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I mean they can't obsessing over Chad's cock and think penises are icky. They think Chad's appendage is wonderful for them (to dream of and obsess over) but icky for women (its very touch causes doom & destruction for the feeeelmales)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 09:52 PM
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pinches drok's little red round cheeks... and then re-engages for round #6755451 of fierce and bloody PPD debating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 09:50 PM
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RP attitudes only come to the surface when women rebel In that case, women have always rebelled, because RP attitudes have always been on the surface.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 09:48 PM
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RP attitudes exist in men when: 1.Women mostly operate in the domestic sphere and men mostly operate in the public sphere 2.Men are educated and women are not 3.Men want more from women than women are currently giving them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 08:47 PM
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Men thinking their 'masculinity is under attack' by feminism are totally missing what's really happening. It's the people who own almost everything who are redefining traditional masculinity. Automation of industry is coming in at a terrifying speed, which in the future will make useless the greatest advantage men have over women - physical strength. Houses will be able to be 3-D printed, along with many other types of construction. We'll have solar and other renewables and won't need coal minin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 08:30 PM
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People like RPers existed long before feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 07:56 PM
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There's a chapter where he says he advises a woman with a verbally abusive husband to give him more sex - to solve the problem. The book is very much set up to say that women can solve their marriage problems by giving their husbands more sex. 'More sex' won't change an abusive man. And that's the issue my female relatives ran into. They tried the advice in the book. And it left them feeling shattered because their husbands got worse and more abusive. And these are both really nice women and I'v…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 09:23 AM
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Most of the men look about age 35 on the covers. A lot of men have lost their hair by age 30. These men almost never never bald (I say 'almost' because although I've never personally seen it, I can't claim to have seen every cover either). They look 25 to me. From what I've seen, those women still tap out at about 30, as opposed to 40+ Most women wouldn't admit to it. Harry Styles was only 17 when a 32 year old woman was going out with him. It's interesting how you have to rely so heavily on fic…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 11:48 PM
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Those were actual BFF necklaces. I'm miffed you're talking about the break up already. Am I just a BFF plate and not a real BFF???
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 11:31 PM
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Why do RPers keep obsessing over Chad's cock?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 11:28 PM
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I expected to really like that movie. I didn't. It didn't have any high stakes or wow factor (apart from the creatures, I guess). It was like a drawn out little kids' movie. Yes, the canning factory guy didn't seem to have anything special about him to make the witch fall for him. Just weird. Credence isn't handsome but he's cute. You could imagine a girl falling for him - he's nerdy, focused, motivated, cares about animals and is prepared to go to any length to save them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 08:56 PM
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I can't stand the 'love languages' theory. Sorry - well written post, but that book is a personal hate of mine. It gives men a free pass to be cold and distant, while putting pressure on women to have sex with their husbands (while not feeling any emotional connection with him). That's my impression of it, after having seen a couple of female family members rave about it at first, and then crash hard when reality sets in. So with all of these points taken into account, it suggests that Acts of S…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 08:27 PM
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Which only undercuts your argument even further. Since women don't really need men much anymore, their true nature is getting revealed more and more. How does that undercut my argument? That bit of surprising ignorance is noted for future use against you. What is next? Sun revolves around earth? I think you must be thinking of raw data. The data in my links was processed into meaningful information. every woman nowadays feels more and more free to express her true nature, that of a cuckoldress. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 09:09 AM
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Women are weighted heavier when they let themselves go In men's eyes maybe. Not in women's. Women call their ugly friends, pretty. Slim, fit, nice hair, pretty faces.Yeah, I'll tell 'em some random on the internet thinks they're ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 08:41 AM
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Do you have anything to actually back that? Yes. Women of all ages up to 70+ read romance books. The biggest ratio of women are older women 45+, because they have more time to read. But the books that feature men of about 22-35 are by far the largest group of books on the market. Most of the men look about age 25 on the covers. Full heads of hair, very young looking, tight bodies etc Amazon best sellers: https://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/digital-text/7588895011/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_kstore_2_5_last…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 01:21 AM
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Put another way, I'm attracted to FAR more women than would make a good wife. So just because I find a woman attractive in NO WAY indicates I think she'd make a great wife. And in many cases, it may make her a worse candidate by default. A lot of RPers just argued the opposite to me in another thread. That any man would go for the prettiest wife - no other factors considered. Although - don't make the mistake of thinking a woman considered pretty by many men is going to be a problem because of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 01:04 AM
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--she will have a wider array of men to choose from the more physically attractive she is. But maybe not quality men. He might need other factors before considering her for marriage. You're missing that part.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 01:00 AM
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I bet you'll win the RP science fair with that much work. That cracked me up. So many RP contenders for that science fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 12:56 AM
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You are wrong to think that men in their late 30's/early 40's are not looking to marry. No, that wasn't my meaning. When I said "late twenties-early thirties, when people are looking at marrying and starting a family" I meant those two things together, for the first time. People don't usually get married for the first time or start a family in their late thirties/forties. I really don't see, however, how men would pursue an attractive woman for "bad intentions". I don't think it's always intenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:37 PM
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Countries with workplace participation from women tend to be the wealthiest. Contrast this with India: For India’s government to maintain the country’s progress into the ranks of middle-income countries, it needs to understand why female labor force participation is falling, and develop an effective policy response. * It’s not that women don’t want to work. Our analysis of data from India’s latest labor survey shows that over a third of women engaged primarily in housework say they would like a …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:24 PM
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I've heard older women talk about that stuff :( All very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:19 PM
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First thing first, a woman's body/appearance is her most valued asset. No other measure comes close and that can not be argued or hamstered. Her most valued asset for what? Sexual attraction? Then yes. Same as good looks are a man's most valuable asset for sexual attraction. But your OP says: CMV: Despite feminism trying to shame men into finding undesirable women attractive... I'm not even sure what your question or the focus of your post is, so I'll answer the position posed in your title. Fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 10:41 PM
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Depends why they're dating. In casual dating, you're a lot more open and will go for looks or something else that is specifically compelling to you, such as a woman willing to explore BDSM with you, travel the world with you etc. For example: a man who wants to be a dom (whether looking for a casual date or marriage) is going to go for a less physically attractive woman who is willing to be a submissive than a beautiful woman who'd rather chew her arm off than be submissive. For marriage, depend…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 10:27 PM
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Finding a man who's sexually attracted to her isn't a woman's primary goal or primary struggle -- it's finding a man who she's attracted to who wants to commit to her. And most guys, especially high-value guys with options, will tell you that it takes more than a pretty face to make him want to wife up a girl. He'll fuck the hotties, but when it comes to marriage she needs to bring other things to the table that let him know she's a good investment for the long haul. Yep!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 10:12 PM
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Look how much we agree, we are pretty much best friends now. Oh yeah, we're BFF. I can practically hear a Taylor Swift song coming on...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 10:00 PM
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Thanks for a thoughtful reply. But you cannot project what makes women valuable to men as what makes women valuable to women. I'm not projecting. Women value looks as much as men do. They haven't had the freedom (many) men have had in the past to pursue the opposite sex for looks though. I'm not saying that career status in a prospective marriage partner are as important to a man as they are to a woman. She has pressures he doesn't (future children and time off work). What I am saying is that ov…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 09:54 PM
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No, I was replying to someone who mentioned divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 09:06 PM
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They keep saying looks aren't as important as money and status (and lifting). They do promise that you'll be able to reel in the babes in future years if you stick to the script.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 09:05 PM
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I'm not into lots of makeup. Lots of men would look at those after pics and think those women were hot though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 09:03 PM
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Did you even read the link? Women prefer men around their age. What women like and what they go for are two entirely separate things. Women remain physically attracted to 25 year old men their whole lives. But they also want a solid relationship and someone with a maturity to match their own, and so they go for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 09:01 PM
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The long marriages of the 50's is evidence that once upon a time, we took the marriage contract far more seriously than we do today. I'd say they're evidence that people were stuck together and unable to divorce. Unhappy men and women had to stay married, esp. the women. No other options available.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 08:58 PM
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If someone is new to a country and breaks the law, I'm also in favour of deporting them and never allowing them back in. Immigrants are not the only people committing stranger rape though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 08:56 PM
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Youth as in the late twenties/early thirties - yes. A few stayed together since the early 20s. But the more usual was that we were all in sets of wide circles and knew of each other, but only settled down in the late twenties plus with a person. Before then, most had casual sex, failed LTRs and they were just too busy. My partner is a few years younger. I didn't actually know him at all in those years.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 08:54 PM
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A beautiful woman will have no shortage of wealthy men willing to bankroll or marry her, which will give her the means to survive without the high labour cost. Not always. If she comes from a 'trailer trash' family and the man decides she's great for sex but not what he wants for his future wife, then her beauty might not get her far. Seriously. Beauty isn't the ticket you think it is. Outside of relationships, beauty can also greatly help one’s success in their career. There are the typical car…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 08:51 PM
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Source? Evidence? Factual basis? http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/harder-for-women-to-start-businesses_n_1646627 Oh bullshit. Divorce is hardest on the man who has to provide AND is deprived of a relationship with his kids. Usually men are not deprived of seeing their kids. I don't wish to get into the divorce discussion though. Too wearing and not the focus of this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 08:43 PM
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Because those college educated men with good careers also tend to be of average attractiveness and are unable to attract, much less keep, a "most beautiful much younger" woman. But the red pill states that men with a high income and status (good career) can get young pretty women. It's the red pill promise. If he's attractive enough, what's stopping him from raiding the stocks of pretty 20-25 year old unemployed/low-income women for a wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 08:40 PM
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And guess what? Those women can support themselves, but they're also depressed, anxious, pissed off, in therapy, taking meds to treat their mental disorders, and generally living unfulfilled lives. I'm afraid that such meds have a long history, and had wide usage among the housewives of decades ago. And still do. You're making a big assumption in saying that these women marry men they're not attracted to. If you take a look among a big group of male and female graduates, you'll find lots and lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 08:38 PM
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It was too long for me to read yesterday. I will now read, evaluate and make my determination on its merit. Be sure to stay tuned, Mr Cross.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 08:32 PM
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You're in a different age group than the late twenties-early thirties, when people are looking at marrying and starting a family. It's true about proximity and social circles, but the red pill keep telling us that men are led by their eyes/penis when it comes to women and will choose the youngest/prettiest they can get (and do not care about degrees/education/what she does for a living). These men do have a choice to seek out different women. No one is forcing them to choose from within their so…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 08:28 PM
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A woman will invest in a man as long as he keeps his burden of performance at a high level. Untrue. Usually, women in a marriage have kids and they invest in the idea of "family". And that idea of "family" usually beats out all else. If 'burden of performance' means working, then most men and women work, whether in the home or out of it. Women (and men) who don't have kids also often invest in the idea of family with each other, a feeling of having come home.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 12:41 PM
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Because I can tell you after 5 years if a relationship we will believe the same stuff, listen to the same music, have the same political and philosophical attitude, our weight would directly correlate due to shared sports/diet... Or .... not. Many relationships break down due to the pair having little in common. They had lust at first but when the lust dampened, they discovered they had nuthin'. Just a field of burned and broken dreams... (sounds like a bad song) Do you really think that a 2 (re…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 12:36 PM
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Money & transformations can improve beauty a lot. http://www.irinatee.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/nita-kuzmina.png http://www.irinatee.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/marinamayer.png http://www.irinatee.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/anyuta-rai.png
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 12:25 PM
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The better your looks, the higher quality (and rich) your potential mates will be. "If" she's smart. If she's poor or from a low-income area, she doesn't have a lot of hope. Because those dudes often want the college-educated women from wealthier families. She can be the first generation in her family to attend college and start the ball rolling - but it's not as easy as people might think. 'Beauty' is not everything and certainly isn't the ticket to a high quality and rich man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 12:01 PM
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A nice thought :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:58 AM
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I agreed with a lot of your post, but not this: Need mentoring to help learn an industry or trade, need start-up capital/credit/partner to start a business, need a place to stay, etc. These are all easily possible when you are a very attractive woman. No, getting capital to start a business is harder for a women, full stop. Banks and investors have a lot more faith in men. Mentoring is not easier for pretty women to get either, because they're often considered not as smart. A place to stay? Yes,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:57 AM
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No one is telling women to only focus on beauty, except people who aren't giving women advice, but beauty is more important than education or a career because for every ugly and self sustaining woman out there there's a good looking counter part which will get more attention for being attractive. Ok, you keep mentioning 'ugly'. So, what is the ugly woman's best asset? Put her focus on trying to tart herself up and possibly catch the dregs for marriage? Or, build a career she loves and build a go…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:50 AM
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Most women won't have that opportunity. Just as most guys won't have the chance to marry a female celebrity. Among the normal range of choices, people usually (not always) choose those most like themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:39 AM
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But he can use the internet and online dating, even if he's very short of time. The red pill is promising that wealth and status will reel in the young babes in years to come. They didn't say nuthin' about having to be a popular dj. I mean, many of these red pillers are going to be boring as fuck bankers in the future. Is the red pill lying to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:36 AM
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I'm not assuming this at all. But for gold diggers, wealth is all he needs to reel them in.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:33 AM
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This is where your argument falls together. Men do not value career and success in their partners nearly enough as women do. That is where your argument falls apart, because the stats say differently. Most men don't mind the idea of a self-sufficient woman like this, but it's not a particularly important trait either. Again, the marriage stats say differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:31 AM
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Celebrities often choose other celebrities.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:30 AM
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I'd argue that most men have no options so they marry who is around. A 30-35 year old man with money and a great career is going to marry whoever is around? I find that very, very hard to believe. He has a lot of options - and if men are led by their eyes/dick and nothing else - why aren't they all going for women who are as young/pretty as possible? What you want to be true is what will make you less unattractive. You want people to believe nonsense that will make you into a less ugly unattract…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:29 AM
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Stats show a different story. The stats show assortative mating. Pointless repeating the red pill rhetoric and party line. I'm not projecting anything. None of you can explain the stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:25 AM
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Human nature doesn't change much. Human nature doesn't change, but we adapt to circumstances. In war, we kill. In peace, we don't. Without education, our options are limited, With education, options are wide. There has never been a time in which women have the freedoms to work and study and have careers like we do now. Data isn't information. It is. Which in turn has nothing to do with spouse selection strategies for women. Say what? It has everything to do with it. Explain how you think it does…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 04:56 AM
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Not sure on that one. I think men do zero in more and lock on a target, whereas women are always looking at a bigger field of view. Which agrees with you. But there is also assortative mating, which mean that men and women want mates most like themselves - religion, social attitudes, education level, background etc. "Romantic partners correlate positively and strongly on age, social attitudes, and religiosity; correlate moderately on general intelligence, education, and physical attractiveness; …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 04:48 AM
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Why? I thought a man with money & status had a wide variety of young, pretty women to choose from and that he was sexually driven to seek such women out (going by red pill teachings).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 04:35 AM
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Yes. It's what annoys me the most about PPD - the upvotes for complete and utter rubbish posts. Stuff that is so ridiculous you can't even reply to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 04:24 AM
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The problem with looking at history is that there hasn't been a time in history like this before. Most women marry men who earn more than they do. Yes, because most single men earn more than most single women. Full stop. The studies you cite suffer from the same lack of specificity that results in nonsense like "77 c on the dollar". Data is data. And it's very strong data on who certain groups of people choose to marry. Most men still give primary importance to a woman's looks, and that is conse…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 04:20 AM
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Agreed!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 03:55 AM
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There's a huge element of pre-selection here. They knew each other from before, some pre-approval, had things in common to bond over, saw the other in attractive youth, and were simply both ready to settle down. It's very different from being fresh on the dating market at 30 and trying to appeal to strangers. Agreed. If they had to be on the market and no one in your common circle was available, what kind of guy do you think they'd go for? Probably guys as much like them as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 03:54 AM
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Awww ain't that the sweetest? Bless him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 03:53 AM
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I don't think so, we will still have laws in place. Laws adapt to society, not the other way around. Most rapes are not stranger in the alley type of rapes, at least according to a lot of feminists. They are much more concerned with the white fraternity brothers than the muslim immigrants. No, it is stranger rape that concerns most women. Most women don't expect rape from an acquaintance - until it happens. But yes, most rape is acquaintance rape. Same as in India/Egypt. But women are less belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 03:52 AM
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You chose an Asian actress who looks so young that people are amazed and writing articles about it. It's not the norm. And your two examples mean nothing. They're just cherry picked examples. Your focusing purely on education while not considering women being valued for their looks. Asian girls age slower than white girls. They have physical aesthetic advantages. They have a far lower rate of obesity. Again, why are those highly educated men choosing the highly educated Asian women when they cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 03:46 AM
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So your trying to claim that, no studies need to be done about the physical attractiveness of women and their education because your assumption of men not caring about it. What in the hey now? Where did I state that men don't care about physical attractiveness? Do you think that's a reasonable, logical statement to make? Nope and I didn't say it. How on earth do you know looks aren't it when NONE OF YOUR STUDIES ADDRESSED LOOKS. You don't seem to understand. This isn't about men. This is about w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 03:42 AM
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You will prevent more women from getting raped by having them be cautious and not go to places drunk and alone with men, then by teaching men not to rape. Yes. Agreed. Most women are careful but some are not. And they need to be. And 'teaching men not to rape' is pretty ineffective considering that most men don't want to rape women and don't need to be taught. Sociopathic men cannot be taught. Young men (teenagers) do deserve guidance on what is and isn't acceptable and what circumstances could …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 03:04 AM
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I'm quite sure they do want/like you (despite the red pill assertions that a woman like you (single mother) is poison who no decent man wants). And of course men like looks. I'm not saying they don't. Women like looks just as much. If they're only going for looks (which the red pill says is a woman's greatest asset) then they'll dump you as soon as a better-looking woman presents herself. Looks aren't your best asset. But, you're saying there are other things about you they like. The stats do sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 02:50 AM
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You're taking away all autonomy from men. Men can use the internet to date and they can go out to nightclubs to date. If he was led by his dick or his eyes or whatever the red pill says all men are led by, I'd assume he'd head to those and find the youngest, prettiest women who were impressed by his money and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 02:46 AM
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Yep, agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 02:44 AM
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Women also prefer younger more attractive men. But they don't tend to marry younger men. We're talking about 'greatest asset' not 'greatest ability to sexually attract men'.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 02:41 AM
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Agree with all you said, but this: So it doesn't really demonstrate that men prefer college educated women, more so that a lot of married couples found their SO at their university. You're saying men have no autonomy, cannot use the internet or go out to find a date. No one is forcing them to date at their university. Women are everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 02:39 AM
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Yes, the 'greatest asset' thing is overblown. Has to be in the face of the red pill assertions that looks are a woman's greatest asset/road to happiness in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 02:37 AM
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That's entirely possible. But the red pill claims that a woman of 28 can't be as pretty as a woman of 21 or 22, except in rare cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 02:35 AM
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Nothing you linked or showed demonstrates that a man will choose a more educated, less attractive woman over a more attractive, less educated woman, given the choice. Everything I showed proves it. Because men with money and status have a choice in who they marry. They don't need to be given the choice - they have it. Much of what you linked ignores physical attractiveness and only focuses on how education helps women, which it does. I'm not ignoring attractiveness at all. I'm talking about a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 02:33 AM
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Unless you can show that a man will choose a less attractive woman over a more attractive woman because the less attractive one is more educated, you haven't really proved anything. A 30 year old man with a good career could pick up a pretty 22 year old unemployed woman from a low-income background for marriage - yes? But when SO many such 30 year old men choose to marry 28 year old women with college degrees - you'd have to ask why. Right? The man can easily use online dating to find a younger …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 02:21 AM
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But divorces and remarriages are messy and can involve children. Hard to go by those stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 02:16 AM
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And you're exactly the kind of man who a girl who's going places doesn't want to meet. The highly educated girl might be prettier than the girl painting her nails, but she wants a man who appreciates her intelligence. Nail-polish girl only thinks as far ahead as pleasing men by her appearance today, and that's the kind of men she'll get.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 02:13 AM
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It's an asset, just not her greatest overall asset. A great personality isn't going to do you any favours if you marry at age 22 to a man who only wants you for your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 02:10 AM
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I agree that beauty isn't a woman's only or most important asset. Yep! Looking at dating/engagement timelines, those 28 year olds who are prime marriage material for great guys were dating them long before they turned 28. Not always. There are still lots of people who are too busy studying and travelling in their 20s to settle down. If her goal is marriage by age 30, then yes she should start looking in her mid-twenties. But if she is just banking on looks and not education/career, then her pros…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 02:07 AM
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I imagine somebody saying: "Haha, my marriage lasted longer than yours." The red pill often cites the long marriages of the 50s as evidence of marriage contentment. Even though the women were forced to stay as they had no careers/prospects/earning ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 01:34 AM
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So the guy losing 20k has more to lose than the guy with the investments, money and property and possibly his own business? What the? How did this flip around to the guy making everything? We're discussing women who have careers/their own businesses - who build a lot of the wealth of a marriage. (Although, if the woman is at home looking after his kids, she as much contributes to what he's earning as he is).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 01:31 AM
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In fact I told her that her post is off-topic and she is taking it out of context. No, the red pill simply doesn't like it when things aren't discussed in their terms, from a male point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 01:20 AM
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LOL your last article from the Guardian is about women struggling to find "suitable" mates of equal or greater education and earning. Hypergamy confirmed. Missed that first paragraph lol I know this. Yet I still used the link. It seems to be a real thing for educated women, so why would I shy away from it? I made the point that some women are choosing to marry blue collar and also said women need to start thinking in these terms - which they will, because it's already happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 01:15 AM
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OP didn't think it was necessary so neither will I OP was talking in terms of 'greatest asset for the best possible marriage and/or life' for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 01:09 AM
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the wind of your mighty data That wind is mighty stinky...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 01:07 AM
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I don't believe men are actually picking women solely based off education and career prospects. Education doesn't always lead to a healthy strong career, for one. Of course not! It's a combination of beauty/education/intelligence/prospects. Some men pick on beauty alone. Whichever, attraction is a huge factor. But a woman's greatest asset for a good marriage is education, not beauty (beauty is just an important factor).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 01:04 AM
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No, your data proves who such men are most likely to marry. Not what they value the most or why they married who they did. My whole point here is that when trp is talking about "assets" they are speaking in terms of sexual attraction. Careers rarely factor into women's smv, but may for men's smv. Men have choices. An attractive man with a good career can pick up a pretty 22-year-old looking for a way out of a low-income life easy peasy. So, why don't all such men do this? You can claim the data …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 01:01 AM
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i don't give a flying fuck about SMV and RMV. What I'm saying is that a woman's greatest asset is her education/business-mind and no one here is proving me wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 12:33 AM
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Thank you for your 'math'.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 12:30 AM
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You seem to be talking about education and careers being a woman's greatest assets for supporting a comfortable/luxilurious lifestyle, which is true. Not just that. I also claimed it's the greatest asset in the eyes of men who these women want the most. And backed it up with data. The reason educated men are marrying educated women is not because they are seeking that out specifically as women do but rather because of proximity. Link please! And a proper study. You cannot claim this out of thin …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 12:26 AM
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The red pill talks about beauty as though it's the primary thing men care about in a marriage partner. Not the only thing, but the primary thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 12:24 AM
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In fact the only thing that determines female SMV is what men think of women. No, women don't care. They tend to try to look as good as they can, but only dumbie/gold digger women think their primary worth is in looks. And whether the wall exists or not is determined by what men think of post or pre-wall women. Again, women don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 12:22 AM
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Me too (my equivalent apparatus) but if you marry for looks alone you could be in big trouble. I go for a combo of looks and other things in a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 12:20 AM
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Education is an asset, but it never tops good looks for women. I just showed the opposite. In short, say you have a super successful female doctor, but she is averaging looking. That woman will never be treated as nicely or with as much attention as a young attractive woman. 50% of female doctors marry male doctors. Why aren't all those male doctors choosing the youngest prettiest women instead? http://healthland.time.com/2010/12/03/maybe-its-not-such-a-good-idea-to-marry-a-doctor/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 12:18 AM
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If that is the case, why don't all college-educated men with good careers go for the most beautiful much-younger women? Why instead, do they largely go for college-educated women in their same age group? TRP's theories can't explain that. These men must be selecting for a woman with an education and career prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 12:09 AM
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They didn't jump into the dating market at age 32 to find the perfect man then and there. Well, you don't tend to meet someone at age 32 and then get married the same year, no. You most probably met the guy when you were 29-30. Considering that the red pill puts the wall at that age, I wouldn't say it was "long before". This changes everything in my opinion. They knew each other before before status and age became important. I agree it does change things. Because if a woman is looking for a husb…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 12:05 AM
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When I hear about "a woman with an education" all it means to me is that its a woman who got trained and tamed(and sometimes dicked down) by some males she's not communally involved with. All I hear in your words is bitterness, not anything real. Blue collar men are usually the biggest group of smartest,masculine and most stable men so its no wonder that most women want to be with them regardless of education. They certainly can be those things. Not true across the board.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 11:56 PM
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You're not understanding my point. My point is that it doesn't matter to women what red pill men think. It doesn't change their lives or reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 11:53 PM
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Which divorce is likely to leave each person in a solid position after divorce? The uneducated couple might be relying on one wage and if they have kids, she is likely to be stuck looking after them and unable to ever get ahead. Long marriage doesn't necessarily mean happy marriage Of course not. But would you say it's a better indicator that a marriage was happy than a marriage that ended after a couple of years?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 11:50 PM
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Because those things are red pill terms that are irrelevant to most women's lives, except for those who reply upon beauty to get them places: aka gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 11:47 PM
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Your best bet would be actual victim blaming and taking more precautions. Can you explain that statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 11:44 PM
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how is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 11:40 PM
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Yeah, perfectly set, but in a hurry if she wants kids. Having kids before she's financially secure can be a disaster - for her, her partner and the kids. Yes, fertility-wise both men and women are better to have kids in their early to mid-twenties. But they might have terrible lives. It's a compromise to have them later for the chance of a stable, happier life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 11:39 PM
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You miss opportunities by becoming "unpure" as well too, thats the one feminists like to leave out entirely. Yes, you miss bad opportunities. Men who value chastity in women are worthless except to women who value chastity in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 11:36 PM
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Sexual Market Value of women is determined by the supply of women and the demand that men have for these women. No it isn't. I realised my reply to this would be too long and so I made a separate OP. As it turns out men absolutely prefer physical beauty in women over everything else, and thus physical beauty IS the woman's greatest asset when it comes to SMV, SMP and The Wall. As it turns out ... nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 11:35 PM
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Men don't really care about a woman's career. You really have no idea. And you're not even red pill (well, not fully).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 09:37 PM
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Because physical beauty is women's greatest asset, while men's is social status. Then the wall is something that only exists in red pill minds, not women's. Because to women, physical beauty isn't their greatest asset. An education/earning ability is women's greatest asset. When she's 28-32, if she studied and has a great career/built up a profitable business - she has set herself up for life. She is also considered prime marriage material for the men of a similar age range (28-38) that she want…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 09:36 PM
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Do feminism and feminists in general see men as anything but a threat? I'm not the one you were asking, but I'll answer. I'm a feminist and the men I've come across in my life are mostly great people. My dad, my partner, my male friends, many of my girlfriend's husbands/boyfriends, the guys I studied with, the guys I've worked with. I hold men in high regard in general, as I do women. I grew up pretty poor, and poor areas almost always experience certain issues. Joblessness, domestic violence, c…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 09:16 PM
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All in all it's just another dick in the wall. The wall is actually a woman - building herself, one brick at a time. She can become greater, if she continues to build. Dicks might put holes in the wall, but the wall remains solid if she patches it up and continues on. At age 100, the wall might not be as new-looking, but it could be a thing of weathered beauty. Then the environment wears the wall and makes it tumble down and return the earth. That is the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 04:58 AM
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Does he let you watch him masturbating? He probably has a way of getting there that isn't the usual and he might be embarrassed and also not able to get to orgasm via sex? Society doesn't make it easy, with all the awful jokes about "small dicks". Hope you guys work it out. I haven't come across that prob, but I have been with a guy who would come at the slightest touch. He was so sensitive about it, wouldn't go to a doctor about it, and it was always my fault for "getting into it" (aroused) too…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 04:51 AM
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Must be really difficult for him. And you!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 03:30 AM
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They didn't approach me but the 6 foot plus guys did. I honestly don't mind if a guy is just a few inches taller. (But yes, I'm honest enough to admit that I do like him to be taller than me).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 03:25 AM
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Small breasts are "fine and dandy" so "why this obsession" over big breasts? Women feel feminine with size A breasts, and small-breasted women don't get why C cups or bigger are the magic size. It's just that an exaggeration of the 'maleness' and 'femaleness' indicators/characteristics are seen as even more male or more female. So taller men are seen as more male and bigger breasted women as more female and sexier. (Not always of course!) Women aren't rushing out there to get boob jobs for no re…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 03:20 AM
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So why does my "MRA site" talk about the fact that women have higher injury rates? Because you have no choice. Every set of official figures say it. I did not give a "general name without a link". All of the links were available if you saw the clearly marked "sources here" page. Yeah dude. Sigh. I already said that I did say that at first, because that was what was in your initial post, but then corrected myself later when I did visit your MRA site and saw the listed links right at the bottom. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 02:02 AM
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Because women say they want nice men and don't care about looks and don't get turned off if a guy opens up. I never hear women say they don't care about looks. I never hear women saying they got turned off by a guy opening up - in fact, they've said it's made them feel closer to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 01:50 AM
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Something I'd like to address is if this preference for taller men stems from the belief that men must be dominant? It's simpler than that. Tallness is an indicator of "maleness". Straight women are attracted to men because men can make them pregnant. Not another woman. Therefore taller men can seem the most 'male'. Indicators of maleness are: he's taller than most of us, has a penis, is able to grow a beard, absence of breasts, has a deeper voice than us. Just as indicators of femaleness are th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 01:42 AM
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What makes you think I'm trying to hide the fact that women's rates of injury in domestic violence are higher I didn't say you're trying to hide anything. I am saying that MRA sites have an agenda and do not include things that would dent their position. I'm saying that things like the high rate of physical violence experienced by women during pregnancy/after birth by their intimate partner (often for the first time) is not mentioned by MRAs. I'm saying that often, the violence experienced by wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 01:33 AM
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I provided a range of statistics from a range of relevant countries. You picked one of them, whether because it best fits your argument, or because it's the country you're from, or because it's the largest of them. I don't know why you're accusing me of cherry-picking. Yes, the US is the largest and is the country most debated here. But more to the point, you can't give a stat range that is pulled from a range of countries - anglosphere or not. As I said, it's not meaningful. We don't even know …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:46 PM
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Imagine... your boot stamping on her face... forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 10:52 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 10:46 PM
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All of the rights and freedoms of men, none of the responsibilities and social obligations. What responsibilities and obligations are you talking about? And what freedoms?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 10:43 PM
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Blue isn't really a thing. It's hard to be 'blue' when blue really represents a rainbow of colours. I only identify as feminist on this sub. It doesn't come up in my life much at all. It's just another 'ism' I largely agree with. Sometimes it goes too far, so I definitely don't agree with all of it. I'm egalitarian in my thinking. I like open debate and allowing a diverse range of people to have a say.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 10:28 PM
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So, microaggression also includes sexism? I haven't heard the term before. Just clarifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 10:04 PM
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It's because I'd like to hear arguments rather than random words. Like ... AWALT, solipsism, emotional, feminazi, cock carousel, AF BB ... those kinds of random words?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 10:02 PM
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My ex gf physically attacked me, ransacked my house and stole my mom's iphone so I called the cops, who then arrested me and charged me with domestic battery and preventing a 911 call. VAWA and other policies such as mandating arrests at any DV call and designating men as "primary aggressors" make it almost impossible to beat the charge once its levied. I spent over 10 grand and almost lost my professional license over this, as well as set back my schooling by a year. Wow, that's a shocker. Legi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 10:00 PM
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What is a microaggression? Is it this: The term “microaggression” was used by Columbia professor Derald Sue to refer to “brief and commonplace daily verbal, behavioral, or environmental indignities, whether intentional or unintentional, that communicate hostile, derogatory, or negative racial slights and insults toward people of color."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 09:55 PM
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Women would have taken power by force if the laws weren't changed. You've taken the red pill. You're forever banned from Narnia.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 09:52 PM
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No. You're not allowed in my wardrobe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 09:26 PM
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Wasn't your concept, dude. That was women's. I hear that the men's concept, KKK, worked out well though. People were so ashamed/afraid to be known for being in it, they hid their identities and gathered in secret to share their hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 09:04 PM
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You have views? I figured you were winging it with Dr. Phil as your guide. Dr Phil is a sick puppy. And yes, I do have views. Right now, I'm looking at a beautiful sky and palm trees swaying in a warm breeze, specks of golden sunlight gilding the fronds. If you could only see it, stonepimple, your cold heart would surely be warmed and gladdened.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:59 PM
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Groups of men have developed concepts before. They haven't always been wise concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:53 PM
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Do you find my views threatening to your own?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:51 PM
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heyyyyy! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:50 PM
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I gave five sources that ranged from men being 24% of victims to men being 50% of victims. For some reason, you just picked the lowest one and focused on that, saying that it proves your point. I was talking about the US stat in isolation. Because if you take the US stat on its own, the figure is overwhelmingly men battering women, as wub1234 said, and the opposite of what you said. To bring a bunch of countries in and say that the rate is a quarter to a half is disingenuous. Because anyone can …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:50 PM
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But that statistic was part of my claim. I said "here are statistics showing that men are between a quarter and half of DV victims". I was talking about the US stat in isolation. Because if you take the US stat on its own, the figure is overwhelmingly men battering women, as wub1234 said, and the opposite of what you said. To bring a bunch of countries in and say that the rate is a quarter to a half is disingenuous. Because anyone can just as easily choose any set of countries that best fit thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:43 PM
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History has shown the exact opposite of this. Happy to hear your examples. Here's mine: women of biker gangs Astonishingly, the male researchers report that “the women attracted to such a scene are predictably tough and hard-bitten themselves. Not all are unattractive, but most display signs of premature aging typical of lower class and deviant lifestyles” https://groups.psychology.org.au/Assets/Files/vandenEynde_19(1).pdf Russian women. There is a saying in Russia: "*“a Russian woman can stop a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 01:48 PM
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Ok, thanks for the explanation!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 02:49 AM
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What about all the scholars that studied responsive vs. spontaneous sexuality? I know about those studies, but the problem for me is that they don't explain female masturbation. Why would a woman masturbate if her desire is only responsive? What is she responding to? Most women feel hornier on certain days of the month - some mid-cycle, some just before a period and some during a period. They feel horny and want an orgasm, as simple as that. https://mic.com/articles/142903/how-often-do-women-mas…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 02:48 AM
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Could I just clarify this? Was it mine or disposablepants post that was reported for being in bad faith? I did use the term 'bad faith' in my post to disposablepants, but I was just illustrating how easily someone can be accused of posting in bad faith (and the irony, seeing as he accused me of it). I didn't actually report his post (or anyone else's).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 12:57 AM
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You're not just incorrect here -- the very first page of the BJS report says verbatim the exact 24% claim that was quoted in the comment we're discussing -- but you're obviously lying about having read it, because you're wildly misrepresenting what it states very clearly. Seriously; the 24% figure is right there on the first page in a big box labeled "Highlights." You're having trouble following. You're saying I'm lying, but you're failing to understand what I even wrote. YES, it states the 24% …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 12:48 AM
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Sex can most definitely liberate women. If a woman believes she must be pure until marriage, she might miss out on a lot of opportunities to know herself better and have a happier life. It's fine to make the choice not to have sex before marriage, but to feel forced into it due to outdated beliefs or societal restrictions can mean a very restricted poor-quality life. If having sex and nothing else is her goal, then she sounds like a lot of red pillers, and it's also a valid choice. It could be l…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 12:38 AM
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It's novel because we no longer tell women that sexual thoughts are wrong, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. Sorry for the pun, but 'novel' is right. Women are the biggest buyers of gay erotic novels. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/relationships/what-women-want-gay-male-romance-novels/article565992/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 12:20 AM
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women being interested in make in male had been unheard of in the west. Wrong. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/relationships/what-women-want-gay-male-romance-novels/article565992/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 12:19 AM
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Women are the biggest buyers of male on male erotic literature.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 12:18 AM
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Women aren't usually horny in a natural state, they need something to turn them on Yes they are. The majority of women don't need any external trigger to get horny. It seems many men here just don't know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 12:15 AM
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Women have always been idealised, actually. The 'fairer sex', the knight swearing allegiance to 'my fair lady' and all of that. Women have always, always been idealised. They've been idealised as loving and caring towards babies, true. But not idealised in general. Generally seen as stupid cows, good for breeding and little else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 12:12 AM
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A very interesting point. I agree that we need the primary carers of babies to be loving and gentle, otherwise we're all screwed. But women generally are exactly this towards babies. So I'm not sure it's pedestalising so much as just reality. We're shocked when a woman kills a baby because it's not common. (And when she does, it's more likely than not to be due to post-partum depression/psychosis and not due to self-interest). I agree that it messes with your psyche to think of a woman as a seri…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 12:10 AM
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I have no idea what you're talking about here. How has feminism unleashed men's predatory behaviour and killed millions of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 11:58 PM
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This comment sums it up nicely. You just cherrypicked one of my points. BAD FAITH. In any case, it IS MRA as I said, because the Wiki that dakru cut and pasted from is by dakru himself and is IS MRA: "This project was started in January 2015 by /u/dakru, with input and suggestions from many others since then. Its home is on /r/rbomi, but it's also shared with /r/mensrights." Further, it IS cherrypicked MRA material, whether the links point to MRA sites or not. One of the links is a piece written…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 11:46 PM
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This sub is overwhelmingly red pill. 'Bad faith' seems to be anything that doesn't support their view. Incredibly, I think they hear us saying 'women are wonderful' if you say anything negative about any groups of men. Women are not wonderful, nor anything close. Women are actually raising the men who go on to beat their partners. Some women also beat/neglect their kids. Poverty has a lot to with DV (though not the only cause). But the red pill, like the MRA, seek to cover up the issues at hand.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 11:01 PM
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Is this a case of regret sex? Did the girl just get a little too wild and wish she hadn't after the fact? It could be. A very small percentage of women lie after the fact, and she could be one of those women. Although it seems that she originally agreed to just 2 men. She didn't agree to a whole lot of men. Why would a woman in a gang bang claim sex was consensual with some guys and not all of them? Two men is not a gang bang. Nor is it consent to having sex with anyone else. If you had a threes…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 10:38 PM
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Then start a petition to ban me. Oh... you already did.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 10:20 PM
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Look at the one in the OP -- the problem isn't that they're earnestly convinced of something that has spotty support at best, it's that they're blatantly ignoring the arguments and evidence they're presented with. You can't have a reasonable conversation if the other person doesn't even address what you're saying. In my view, that's exactly what /u/dakru is doing in his argument. As I outlined in my previous post in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 10:17 PM
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Wow, go away with my family and I come back to this. It's called arguing in bad faith. Examples as obvious as this should be worthy of a temp ban. I am fine with being banned for life, disposable pants, not just temporarily. Seriously. Not coming to PPD would not change my life one iota. First, I would like you to explain how my post was in bad faith. 1.Repeatedly failing to respond to the point another person is making. In fact, it was /u/dakru who completely misdirected /u/wub1234,s point. Wub…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 09:59 PM
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She's not a god (that I know of) but she has stated she'd like to live in a cabin in the wilderness away from humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 09:16 PM
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You mean like the anecdata you provided in response to dakru's well-sourced argument in this comment line? :) Actually, none of that is anecdata. It's all direct quotes. I would never post figures that were not from a source. I just didn't post the links. It's Christmas and I've been super busy with family. A bad faith thread about me? Just what have you little dweebs been up to while I've been away?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 09:14 PM
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Supported by a great deal of people, including the feminists of the time. Learn history then come back and debate. Many feminists wanted to go to war and were denied. Some joined the white feather movement because they were shit scared of a war made by men that they could do nothing about. But more feminists were against the white feather movement. And yes, the movement was started by a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:39 AM
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Women are also more likely to use objects than men when attacking someone. Look me in the eyes and tell me with a straight face that a woman attacking you with a hammer and you not being able to call for help or fight back is not scary. Anecdata is great, isn't it? If women attack with objects, how come more far more men don't end up dead? Not hard to kill someone with a hammer. Or a gun. Or a knife. Or at least why aren't women causing far, far more serious injuries in men than they are? I thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:32 AM
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We can't take statistics on spousal murder and assume that they apply to injuries in domestic violence more generally. Oh of course not. of course it's convenient to ignore that unpleasant little statistic. The number of women killed by a current or former male partner added up to nearly double the soldier lives lost in war in Afghanistan and Iraq during the same 11-year time frame. And let's also ignore the type of injuries men give women in the home compared to the type of injuries women give …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:22 AM
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While your fairy tales are entertaining, I've got big people things to do. Like getting back to Witcher.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:13 AM
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Yea, awkward all around.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 02:09 AM
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The silly season started early for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 02:05 AM
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It's true that women are more likely to be injured, but the difference isn't as big as you think. The proof is in the number of women murdered by their male partners every year. It's a HUGE difference. A you-cannot-argue-it difference. It shows the level of violence many women are experiencing in the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 02:04 AM
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Wut? No, you give links to a good number of modern wars started by a woman's self-interest - and then we'll answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 02:02 AM
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Schopenhauer has never said anything useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 01:52 AM
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I don't expect a female to be a part of my life script. Women are not into the things I'm into. Women like status markers, lives of luxury and ease. You obviously haven't spoken to /u/questioningwoman
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 01:46 AM
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men thinking because you went out with them that means some kind of commitment men pretending all kinds of things about themselves just to get into a relationship with you. When the relationship goes long term, it really sucks to find out he was just doing those things to impress you. Like liking certain hobbies he really doesn't. Like pretending to be active when he'd rather be a couch potato. Like pretending he likes the RPG games you do, and later calling you childish for playing them wanting…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 01:41 AM
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Because if you flair purple, then you lean red. Lots of blues agree with some stuff that rp also agrees with, but purples agree with most of it. I'm questioning why you're purple if you have such a fundamental disagreement with the reds. According to the reds, women are bitches and that is what the red pill is built upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 01:18 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 10:51 PM
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Fun video! I'm confused as to how this is a red pill idea though. This is what women have known forever. In the video, the women have sex with men thinking they'll turn into boyfriends, but then they don't get texts or flowers (but other women do, which confuses them). There are silly women/women with low self-esteem who have sex with a man straight away thinking it will make him love her. You could put that message of that video in a non-fun way - just a written message - and most people will a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 10:46 PM
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I have read Rollo. I'll tell you my honest opinion - there's something seriously wrong with anyone who thinks his ideas have merit. He's got it all wrong. If you breed dominant men who are schooled to dominate their wives, you'll end up with tough women. Like Atlas. Or even tougher. Along with women like red pill women who try to be soft and feminine but are only playing a role. And the tougher the women get, the tougher the men will keep having to get, just to assert masculinity. It won't breed…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 10:28 PM
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We say women are hypocritical liars when they say "height doesn't matter" Women don't say that. It's manufactured in the collective mind of the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 10:20 PM
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And most girlfriends are not nagging bitches who eat away at their man's self-esteem. According to the red pill, that's exactly what they are and what they'll do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 10:20 PM
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Oh true. It would just make me feel crap though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 07:52 AM
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Of course not, but that's an easy way to get it! Getting a girlfriend or having sex does not necessarily give someone any confidence whatsoever. The other day, Archwinger said getting a girlfriend was dead easy for any guy. And if the girlfriend proved to be what red pill said almost all women are, then you could be feeling pretty bad, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 07:51 AM
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I was about to say that! Women are soooo shhhhhhallow because they like taller men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 04:28 AM
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I am perfectly fine with somebody breaking up with me because they don't like my length of hair. I'd accept it but I wouldn't be fine with it. I'd be asking myself just how shallow was he?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 04:22 AM
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Agree! How easy is it to tie hair up when it's long! I've had shoulder length hair and it bugged me because I couldn't put it all up without bit falling out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 04:21 AM
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I'd say you're right. Women generally don't go bald (unless very old and then it just thins) and so long hair is one of many indicators she's not a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 04:20 AM
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Maybe one like this
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 04:16 AM
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Yeah, but if she no longer turns you on sufficiently? Then your sex drive must be packing it in and you need to see a doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 04:13 AM
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Anything like Rollo's stuff would be awful to teach boys. Sheezels, can't we teach boys and girls positive stuff? How to have an awesome life?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 04:11 AM
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I would, but I'm pretty hawt.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 04:09 AM
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He doesn't have to get his confidence and happiness from dating a chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 04:07 AM
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Agree. It would be rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 04:07 AM
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They aren't, and the overwhelming majority of the ones working in Hollywood are for the modern day redistributive society as demanded by those "social justice" activists and feminist. Yet, most action movies have men as the heroes and women in supporting roles and most movies in general are about men and they star men. Strange that. Your point just got shot down. When feminism stops using bullshit statistics, and starts advocating for meritocracy Meritocracy does not exist. It's networking and p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 04:04 AM
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The majority of men in media are on the liberal/feminist/SJW train. Nope. Women are usually portrayed as happy housewives in commercials. And in movies they are usually supporting characters. And in TV sitcoms, they (slim attractive women) are often married to boorish fat men - whichever, they will generally be housewives if it's a family. I generally can't find a movie to watch because men make most the movies. Men are only just starting to include more action/better roles for women because the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 03:55 AM
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I'm not so sure honestly. I'd prefer to see something between what we have now and a curriculum written by Rollo. Maybe we should just have same-sex only sex ed. Seriously? You'd like your daughter (if you have one) grow up in a world of boys schooled by Rollo?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 09:59 PM
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So yes, I'm pretty sure BPers want to tear down successful people because unsuccessful people exist. ??? Wut?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 09:56 PM
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Penny could easily get a tall, intelligent, attractive beta bux. All attractive men are not players. In fact, more of Penny's men are shown to be complete dumbheads rather than players. Penny wants a smarter guy. And the show makes out as though the only smart guys in sight are the nerds across the hall. Its comedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 09:52 PM
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Leonard is kind of always the puppy dog throughout the series, is super clingy, but somehow manages to land this smokin' hot girl. Like, sorry, that just doesn't actually happen. What the show illustrates over and over is that the nerds can't get girls. While dumb Chads easily get girls like Penny. It's shown as a complete anomaly that a guy like Leonard could get a Penny. Going back to the Chads - are all Chads dumbheads in real life? And are all pretty girls like Penny dumb? The answer is no. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 09:49 PM
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This thread is about millennials and the media of today. Why are you even having a say about old media?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 09:44 PM
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Who makes TV shows and movies, RPers? Oh, no, hyper-feminist actors, directors, producers etc. make media. You must be kidding! MEN largely create the media. In TV shows, women are the housewives who love boorish, RP style men. In 'Two and a half men', women were there to be used for sex by a wealthy, ageing Chad. Even in BBT, none of the nerdy women like nerdy stuff such as RPG video games, unlike their real-life counterparts. In the movies, women hardly get a look-in. Most movies are about her…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 09:33 PM
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Yet another thread filled with people who have no clue what introversion is ... is basically saying no one understands it. Then of course people vastly improving their life, like me, because of RP doesn't make sense to you. Anonymous people saying their life has vastly improved yet they're still in rp where no one understands women tells me that they still haven't been around women much.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 09:15 PM
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When the world is non stop kissing ones ass, realistic reflection does look like hate, sure. When people are looking in the mirror instead of what's around them, 'realistic reflection' is not so realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 09:10 PM
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Quick: those weren't my words and I don't say any words like them outside of PPD. Therefore, no shaming of men is done by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 09:05 AM
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Why are you replying me with all this which I already know? You said no one here knows it, that's why. So do you, but at least the Red Pill is entertaining and useful
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 09:02 AM
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Introverts know what introversion is. It's getting your energy from inside your mind. Extroverts get their energy from other people. Confident extroverts think everyone else wants to be them, but they couldn't be more wrong. Shy extroverts want to be confident extroverts. Confident introverts need time alone to recharge, but you often wouldn't guess they're introverts. Shy introverts stay away from people as much as they can and prefer it that way. how are they going to figure out the Red Pill t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 03:40 AM
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I test between INTJ and INTP. I'm introverted but will submit to no one. I'll work with people who are worth working with, but I'll never submit. That doesn't mean they can't change my mind - I'm 100% willing to change my mind if a better viewpoint is given.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 03:31 AM
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I can't agree with any of what you said. We're talking history here. A high n count meant a high likelihood of VD (which in turn when he gives it to his wife could mean her babes are born unhealthy or dead) Other women getting pregnant would indeed take resources away from the man when she demands money. Which is why women don't need to worry about high N counts, only high "commitment N" counts. Women have always worried about men's fidelity after marriage, so you're 100% wrong. For all the reas…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 03:23 AM
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Nuh uh. Women see men as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 02:42 AM
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If you mean sexually unfaithful, why would it? The other women could get pregnant, the other women could give him VDs that take away his earning ability, the other women take away time he could be spending working or doing things with the children of the first woman, he might meet a woman he likes better and abandon the first He might spend a lot of money on the other women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 02:41 AM
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This is completely ridiculous. You should take a break from here. I'm afraid almost the entire married red pill forum think exactly the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 01:33 AM
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Doing nice things, trying to do what's right. In the end it doesn't count at all, and people rightfully get upset at that. That stuff means a lot to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 01:31 AM
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Just more of the red pill and their women hate - the only possible explanation for their outrageous inconsistencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 01:29 AM
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/21/pickup-artists-on-trial-for-rape-ring.html Jonas was also charged with another rape shortly after being charged with Claire’s. This one belonged to an underage girl who was celebrating her 16th birthday with two friends at the chain restaurant Dick’s Last Resort in 2012. Jonas joined the girls’ table, then convinced them to accompany him back to the hostel where he was living. He offered a tour, grabbed the birthday girl by hand, took away her pho…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 01:26 AM
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You certainly talk like one. If you think that's acceptable, then I can only think one thing about things you might have done in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 01:15 AM
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Because men and wonen do not want the same thing. This whole post stems from the notion of equality. There isnt any, not in desire, capability , outcomes. You're wrong. And I'm right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 01:13 AM
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All the women who oppose this are giving reasons that sound a lot like that dreaded "slut shaming" they're always complaining about from men. Slut shaming involves openly shaming people for their sexual choices. I - and a lot of bloopers- have no probs at all with men who prefer a low n count. It's when they openly call women sluts (even when they're seeking them for sex) that we see it as wrong. People can't help what they like or want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 01:13 AM
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Most men know how the attention they get changes when they are in a situation where they're more popular than normal. It's the old "women want me more when I have a girlfriend." It's an old trope. Yes that happens, but it's because you yourself are different. You're going out more, you're happier etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 01:10 AM
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Because they view men as defective women. ??? no.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 01:08 AM
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I didn't say men weren't emotional, I stated that they experience emotions differently from women. The problem with "society" is that it's predicated on women's experience of emotions as being the correct, mutually acceptable one for men You said men weren't wired for emotion. I can't see how women's experience of emotions are the standard for both men and women. No one expects men to cry during sad movies, or to get gooey about babies who are not their own, or to be as soft as women are with ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 01:08 AM
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lol men dont care about a womans confidence or how in tune she is with herself. Are you a man? You don't seem to know what men like.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 12:54 AM
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I have definitely identified an inconsistency in the red pill. Because they state that men want a faithful woman. And they also state that women want resources and children from a man - she wouldn't want to risk him being unfaithful because that would take resources away from her. Very, very inconsistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 12:54 AM
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The 16 year old was pulled from a corridor into a hotel room and raped by one of those three men. All while her friends were running up and down the corridors looking for her. It's taken 3 years for police to test her rape kit. These men are getting bolder and bolder with what they're prepared to do. I agree about not getting shitfaced because it puts you in danger, but there are men who will do anything to rape - and you can't avoid all circumstances without leading a very restricted life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 12:50 AM
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They are not 'innocent'. They are rapists and should go to jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 12:47 AM
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From CCTV footage, these guys are serial rapists who invite very drunk women back to their apartment and then rape them. the footage shows happy women entering the apartment, and distressed crying women leaving. They are right (these guys) when they say that most women will not report what happened, thinking they are to blame. And then dirtbags like this keep doing the same thing. The rape of a 16 year old on her birthday was horrific (by one of the three men) Hope they go to jail and stay there…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 12:45 AM
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Also the charge of rape against the unrelated 16 year old, how does that tie into this story at all? It ties in because one of these three guys raped a 16 year old on her 16th birthday. These guys are rapists and are pleased about what they're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 12:41 AM
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The problem with this is that a significant component of a man's attractiveness is how popular he is with other women. I don't judge men on this. I know 100% that a lot of women don't. The more women like a guy, the more attractive he becomes. I don't agree. At all. A guy can have something that appeals to a lot of women, but I don't think women want a guy because other women want him. It won't increase his attractiveness just because other women like him - it will more make unattracted women sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 08:38 AM
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What was he then? And why?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 08:31 AM
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True. But few people remember him fondly. The world is still dealing with his "shock and awe" war.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 08:31 AM
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Comic was just a lil' fun thing I added. Feeling I get when I see those type of comics is that life is all too hard (the cringe) and that the couple are like little cuddly bears who shouldn't really be out in the world (double cringe) but on some level I can relate. Lots of like to crawl into bed after a long day and just cuddle up with someone who's feeling the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 08:30 AM
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But facial symmetry didn't correlate with attractiveness It's normally a high indicator of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 08:27 AM
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Depends on how his presidency goes. If he fucks up, the swinging voters will turn against him and his authoritarian views. If he does give a perception of "making America great" then swinging voters will be on his side. Bush fucked up. People turned against such bull-headed views.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 04:40 AM
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You can't really complain about lack of sex without looking like a fucking loser. Looking like a loser will not help you get laid, in fact it'll hurt your chances. Unless you do it online anonymously. I agree. Catch 22.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 04:37 AM
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Women try and be "empathetic". They are just solipsistic and often suck at it How do women suck at empathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 04:35 AM
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Ok then, status. But dominance is definitely up there. Women are no more shallow than men. The initial look of a person is what attracts. And if the person is just looking for sex, then the other person generally doesn't need anything other then good looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 04:34 AM
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And as long as they're printed and endorsed by GLO.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 04:31 AM
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A man could be a 10/10 billionaire Chad ubermensch, but if I catch wind that he hits up prostitutes he's instantly delegated to omega status. It's like Dan Bilzerian; the dude is stacked, rich, and seems like the life of the party. However he hires hookers for his Instagram account and all I can think is ew, loser. Yes. That's me too. If he's seen a prostitute, instant no. If he has sex with as many women as he can get, instant no. Am not saying it makes a man worthless as a person, but he's jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 03:08 AM
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Say WHAT? Blue pill says women like and want attractive men. PUA/red pill says women are more attracted to game/dominance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 03:05 AM
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Huh? I'm saying pretty much what you're saying, just from a woman's perspective. Why does she want this?: (I'm quoting /u/rulenumber303 here) Their n-counts, their previous use of prostitutes, their sex tourism, their fucking of women who've had half the town go through them already, their previous unsafe sex practices, their habits of having casual sex while drunk or under the influence of drugs, their cheating, their enabling of partnered women in cheating, their HPV and herpes, their children…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 03:02 AM
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Scoff at it all you like, I've seen it happen. "most women"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 02:58 AM
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But we're really hawt... I know, you've all got official red pill t-shirts that say so. That's how women know ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 02:52 AM
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Ready to knock it all down ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 02:49 AM
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When women come across alpha chads (something that doesn't happen to them often) it's like they play by a whole different set of rules and they do things they otherwise would not have imagined themselves doing. Like most women would give up a husband they love, a family life together with him and the kids, the prospect of a future together - all for the sake of a night or two with a player. Pffffttttttt....
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 02:48 AM
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I'll do an OP soon. Too much to put here in a reply. There will be links. I lived this years back. I looked into it a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 01:02 AM
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And you're failing to see that the red pill's assertion that women prefer high n count men (partly due to seeing his sexual success with women) could have serious dents in it. If men prefer women with lower n counts for LTRs (believing she'll be more faithful) then you'd have to also accept that women would prefer lower n count men (believing he'll be more faithful). And in point 2. you're heading into biased territory yet again when you assume that women with a higher n count have no advantage.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 12:59 AM
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Their n-counts, their previous use of prostitutes, their sex tourism, their fucking of women who've had half the town go through them already, their previous unsafe sex practices, their habits of having casual sex while drunk or under the influence of drugs, their cheating, their enabling of partnered women in cheating, their HPV and herpes, their children from previous relationships. Yes, men hide all this when they go specifically looking for an LTR. barf... I'm a low n-count woman and if I wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 12:47 AM
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Well, I'll reply to your anecdata by saying that your friend must flirt with an awful lot of married/LTR'd women to have that kind of success rate. And he'd be choosing women who give him the eye in the first place. If he just tried his luck with any married/LTR'd woman (and only 20 or so a week) who hadn't shown any interest in him, his success rate would be very low.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 12:44 AM
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The study literally said men with more facial symmetry had higher n counts Yes, which means more attractive men have more women interested in them. Women don't "avoid" attractive men. And, I said, not all attractive men have higher n counts than less attractive men. In general, yes, but not always.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 12:39 AM
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A good player hides being a player. Not according to the red pill. He flaunts it. If women avoid guys who are more attractive, then why do those guys still end up having higher N counts? Huh? Guys who are more attractive do not all have high n counts. They'd have higher than an incel, if that's what you mean. And not all women avoid players - women who just want sex or a relatively innocent woman or a woman who wants a LTR but doesn't have a lot of choice in men might end up with a player. Obvio…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 11:27 PM
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and guys can't get away with pretending not to be players Dirty, low-down slutty slooty men trying to hide their n counts....
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 11:16 PM
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No women can know my n count except for them who know me, and those who know me love me. No one would dare think anything else ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 11:13 PM
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I was thinking of a scenario where paying prostitutes for sex was suddenly seen as completely normal. Just like having casual sex is seen as completely normal. Ok fair enough. Your first post sounded bizarre and not about normalising prostitution but about revenge/hate sex. Or something :-) It isn't expensive here in Germany. Well "every time a slut fucked a Chad" seems a pretty frequent thing. He'd have to be jacked up on viagra and having sex all day long. That's what I was picturing.... but I…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 10:09 PM
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Anger is an emotion, men learn very quickly to subdue this. Nothing makes everyone around him turn on him faster than expression ??? What the???
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 10:04 PM
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But they won't be able understand what it is like to have an intense non-reactive sex drive that is continuously rejected. Lots of women in relationships understand it only too well - when their intense non-reactive sex drive is continuously rejected by their man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 10:03 PM
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About to shoot your theory down in 5,4,3,2,1.... Men ARE wired for emotion. If what you said was true about men, then little boys would not be the emotional creatures they are. Little boys cry, need hugs, give lots of hugs, get scared, feel sad, feel happy, feel jealousy, feel pain etc Society has forced men into unnatural roles. They are different to women, but they still have that basic emotional nature. Its mostly other men forcing men to stifle their emotions - not women. And women suffer fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 10:01 PM
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The guy would have to be fucked up in the head. Obsessively watching what women do and basing his life on hating women and thinking about what "sluts" are doing with Chads. If you had that much money, wouldn't you be better off just leading the best and most fulfilling life you could- gorgeous prostitutes or not? Rather than miring yourself in obsessive hate. It sounds like the first step in becoming a serial killer of Staceys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 09:50 PM
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But they might want to hold off on spinning plates themselves because they found N count was 50% stronger of a predictor for infidelity in men than in women. Yep, yep, yep. I've said that many times to trpers - that a lot of women will avoid men who look like players because they deem them not good LTR material. Especially women who have a lot of good choices available of men for LTRs. They don't believe me. They keep telling me all ya need is "game" and confidence/dominance/ the appearance of h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 09:42 PM
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as incel, you can dismiss my views as perhaps being biased due to how we mingle with likemined similar people, That's not a reason to dismiss your views. in college, most guys wore ugly graphic tees and looked (and behaved) like little boys while the few genetic lottery winners had regular "hookups", the rest of us just drank in suasage fest parties. There could be a lot more incels than we realise, because men won't commonly say it. And I can't see that issue going away. i've said it before, if…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 09:36 PM
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I hope that one day there will be one guy who pays a gorgeous prostitute for every slut who hooks up with Chad. That sounds eerily paranoid. And weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 09:30 PM
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Why are sex tourists getting younger and younger? I think because younger people are more likely to travel - and therefore have access to these places. And more western women are busy studying/building careers and not settling down as young. Therefore - more men are free to do as they please. Something something decline of western civilization? Most women wouldn't put up with their husband or boyfriend doing this, so it would mostly be men who don't have wives or girlfriends. I don't see anythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 09:26 PM
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Crack could definitely have had an impact - but then today we have an ice epidemic. To be fair, I think some of it could be to do with a higher incarceration rate. Because men who rape and more likely to steal/commit other crimes, and men who steal/commit other crimes are more likely to rape. And law enforcement did begin cracking down harder and putting more men away. So, if you take a man out of the community who has committed one type of crime, you've got a high probability of automatically s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:55 PM
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The world is wonderful right now and there is no reason to think we have destroyed the world. That view is nuts. Sorry. Life uh finds a way and has survived far harsher conditions than suffering under humanity. Very zen. But we've got way off the tech and continuation of humans road.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 02:42 AM
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Confident & assertive. Which brings us back to square one. Some women (including me) will see a confident and assertive man (who approaches you during the day in a public place) as a big time player. And no dice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 02:41 AM
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Men should not be quiet when approaching a woman, terrible advice. hahahahahaha what should he be? Noisy? He'd scare her away.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 12:18 PM
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Wut? Male doctors tend to marry female doctors.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 08:43 AM
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Most dominant women are not that dominant compared to a dominant man and would or do end up submitting to the right person anyway. i'm not dominant at all. I would never submit to a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 08:06 AM
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In a set of subs where men's semen and where it is deposited in/on other people is regularly discussed (mostly the red pill) I'd put peeing way down the list of TMI ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 08:03 AM
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i meant they (greedy men) destroyed the world via tech that led to acceleration of climate change, not war. But let's go with war. I agree. War brings new tech. Like, when so many men went off to war, we had to bring more women into science & tech. Such as Stephanie Kwolek. Which is how kevlar came into being. The internet is a process that many hands carried, both male and female.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 07:57 AM
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This OP is a wind up. Nor playing. It's exactly the same as a red pill post, but in reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 03:08 AM
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Oh piss off. Men destroyed the world much more than they built it. Not all men, but greedy men. We'd be a fuckton more fortunate if men had allowed women their human rights and allowed them equal parts of the build of society. Now, we're stuck with a world that might kill us within the next few decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 03:05 AM
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I'm from the alien world in Avatar. I'm connected to the internet with my hair's neural fibres. I get a pretty good data transfer rate. I also pee in the shower standing up, and a red piller told me that's disgusting, and so I've lost my traditional woman card and I have no choice but to be blue...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 01:44 AM
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It's a valid choice for an individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 12:00 AM
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He's keeping her belly full and her ovaries satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 11:58 PM
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But what if he pulls out his weenie and it's a big one? I've always thought the pinkie thing must be nothing to men with big penises and insulting to men with small ones (who might not have done anything wrong to any woman, ever).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 11:54 PM
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lol yes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 11:52 PM
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By not play I mean not get married. Seems like it'll solve all this. Never have a live-in LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 11:51 PM
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Plot twist. Unbeknown to you, while all your attention is on the game, she brings in Herbert the Pervert from next-door, and he sucks your weenie. You are none the wiser. Except your neighbor keeps giving you curiously sly smiles every time you pull up in your driveway after work.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 09:20 AM
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I have mowed lawns and done laundry when pregnant. Laundry was far harder and ended up giving me a groin injury. Baskets of wet washing are far harder to haul around and hang out then pushing a machine around a lawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 04:49 AM
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That has never happened to me. I mow lawns all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 04:46 AM
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1.Women want to do paid work You wrote your whole post as though women have somehow been forced out to work or didn't know what they really wanted. 2.Women want to do paid work Many women ha-a-a-a-te housework with a passion. I'm one of them. I feel deep resentment if the man I live with doesn't clean up. 3.Women want to do paid work Housework isn't women's responsibility. It's everyone's who lives in the house. And why shouldn't women place themselves in a safer economic position? 4.Women want …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 04:41 AM
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Sounds like the only winning move is not to play. Yes. And talk about what's bothering you. Though in some marriages, talk doesn't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 04:35 AM
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Plus, I get to play pool and darts for free! WIN WIN FOR ME. I also get free drinks, go figure. Yay for free drinks and free pool :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 04:34 AM
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I have no idea why their marriage broke down, but it looks like it had a lot to do with different parenting styles.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 04:33 AM
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If I can tell he's 'cold calling' (day game) and this is what he does all the time, I'm turned off. Going out with him is no dice. But it's not on the same level as cat-calling. If he's at least respectful and quiet when he asks me out, I'll be respectful and quiet back. If a guy cat calls, I might loudly reply with all sorts of things that will embarrass him publicly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 04:32 AM
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Women don't have the drive to usurp men in power, ultimately. The average woman might have more power than the average man now, but they won't usurp "the patriarchy" because they crave it. Nah they don't crave it at all. They don't want to usurp men either. They just want equality. Feminism would never have got a foot in the door if women wanted patriarchy to stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 10:02 AM
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"doesn't increase a man's sexual appeal. It just increases his money appeal" They are there for the moolah. Not the flabby gut/droopy balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 05:32 AM
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However, the core message here is probably that an increase in a woman's career or wealth is unlikely to boost her sexual appeal. It doesn't increase a man's sexual appeal either. It just increases his money appeal. Won't do anything for her sexually when they're alone on his yacht and she sees his wrinkly body and saggy balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 02:13 AM
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Everyone judges on looks. Everyone. How do you know someone is the gender of your choice otherwise? And most of us want someone who looks good to us. We don't want someone who has pus dribbling out of open sores everywhere or has a single eye in the centre of their forehead. We go on visual cues. Men should want women with small waists and wide hips. Signalling fertility and an easier time giving birth. Men (of their best fertile age range, under 40) who are attracted to slim-hipped 14 year old …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 02:00 AM
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It's purplepilldebate not purplepillslapfight Dammit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 01:46 AM
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Yep. Men sometimes nag for sex and nag her to clean the house better. He nags because he can't make her do those things and feels powerless. Though, more often, he'll take out his frustration by going out and playing golf/down to the pub or something, leaving her home with the kids. Which causes her deep resentment, because neither of them got to the root cause of their issues. He goes out because he feels more powerful/entitled - no one will judge him badly because he's going out without the fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 01:44 AM
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I disagree. Like others in this thread have mentioned most nagging takes the form of condescension. Like a parent talking down to a child. And I disagree with you and anyone saying what you said. The fact that children nag and mothers nag proves my point. People without power nag. Mothers often nag their kids through frustration, but not from a position of power, often repeating a pattern learned when they themselves were children. I don't nag. My word is final with my kids. If they don't do it,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 01:31 AM
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It could be, but generally the one nagging is not coming from a position of power. They feel powerless.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 01:07 AM
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People without power nag. Children nag because they have no power. Some women nag because they have no power. Men haven't nagged as much because they've had much more power. Women less often nag these days due to the fact they have more power. Solution? Women need more power. Win, win.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 01:03 AM
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Yep, all very true!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 01:00 AM
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Some are, some aren't. I'd say 99% are in it for the money when there is a very large age gap. Yep, doesn't matter at all if that doesn't matter to the guy. But we can't pretend she's seeing him because he has sex appeal. That was my point. Yes, gold diggers can be any age, male or female.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 12:59 AM
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RP spends more time explaining how the CUSTOMERS (women) are all horrible for not buying the shit you are peddling. No one wants to buy shit, that's how markets work. They take their money elsewhere. Fuck that. Improve your product or GTFO. Stop blaming the customers in the free market. +1 You should make an OP on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 11:00 AM
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In the blue pill world, when a woman loves someone more, she has sex less readily. It's ass-backward. It's training for when you make him wait for months in between each sex session after you marry him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 10:58 AM
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I 100% believe most men do to and they lie when they say they don't. I 100% believe most western men don't expect to marry a virgin, nor do they want to. Because a virgin means a teenager who is not ready for marriage - and she probably won't be for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 07:21 AM
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Sugar daddies everywhere...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 04:59 AM
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There was an okcupid study showing women prefer men their own age or like 1-3 years older. This has been consistent with my experiences. That doesn't mean that's the age women find most attractive in men. It's not. Men remain their most attractive around age 25. It's just that more women are going for relationships and believe that most men will only date women their age or younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 04:57 AM
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Same with physical attractiveness, men peak at 27-35 Wut? No, men peak in attractiveness at age 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 04:55 AM
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No. If the man replaces the wife with porn and masturbation, it is ONLY because she is sexually rejecting him. Oh dear. You do not know what you do not know. This is common. You don't know what issues women share in relationship forums, because you don't go to them. Many wives are ready and waiting for sex, but their husbands are upstairs (or downstairs or in their home office) fapping to porn. These husbands prefer porn/fapping to sex with their wives. And before, you ask, no that hasn't happen…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 12:54 AM
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I guess we're all just a little anxious just how high the bar to be Chad is, and how many of us will live sexless, unfulfilling lives in this brave new world. That's a valid concern - and that's why I said the good thing about the red pill is that it's a place for men to come and talk. But it gets toxic if it gets to the point of obsession over Chad. You can't place your self-worth on becoming some fictional character and be mentally healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 09:49 PM
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Ha. I haven't changed all that much in the 22 years I've been with Mrs. Cross. Is she happy with that? My partner hasn't changed in seven years, but he's the first one I can say that about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 09:43 PM
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Men never, ever marry women they don't want to fuck. Never. The 'want-to-fuck' desire disappears soon after marriage, to be replaced by porn and masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 09:42 PM
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The Big Bang Theory is a basically a romcom and tons of young men watch it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 09:41 PM
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Also, I'd like to add, being in love with a woman and NOT having sex with her even though we slept in the same bed was one of the most emotionally difficult things I've ever experienced in my life. More so than I'd have imagined prior to living it. It may not be "fair" to my current wife, but I will do everything in my power to never be stuck in that position again. Check your male privilege (to use a SJW expression ;) ) In my past relationship, I had the same thing happen, where I was still in …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 09:37 PM
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Yep!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 08:52 PM
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(Obligatory disclaimer that this is a reaction to a man I'm already physically attracted to doing these things; no, a repulsive man being nice to me wouldn't make me horny.) Yes 100% to this. When my guy is kind and sweet, it make me want to jump his bones like crazy. But it won't make me want to jump the bones of a guy I'm not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 08:51 PM
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Yes, I've seen this happen. He marries her because he couldn't get anyone better, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 08:43 PM
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Whatever you were at the beginning, you have to keep doing and being that for the entire life of the relationship. That would be nice. Men usually change so much. It's crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 08:41 PM
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virtually NO one is such an asshole that he isn't nice enough for a woman. What does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 08:39 PM
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Don't you see all the red pill threads where they're arguing about what would be the most masculine course of action? Clearly, talk about defining masculinity is what red pillers do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 08:39 PM
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I think we can agree, that's majority rather than minority. Some of them can act against their natural instinct, but that comes with logical cost–benefit analysis and maturity. I don't know if I agree. It's not what I see. I see pretty equal relationships, and as far as I can tell, they're happy. Overall, I'm not sure. I think they'd need to do a very large survey of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 08:37 PM
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But for real, I've gotten the impression from a few folks here that making sex priority #1 in a LTR/marriage is viewed as negative. I honestly do NOT understand that, since to me a LTR/Marriage is AT ITS CORE a sexual relationship. I'd view that as a negative, too. I see the core of a LTR/marriage being love. I can have sex with a different guy every night of the week if I want, or with a FWB, but I won't get love. I sacrificed having sex with other men for love. Not for sex. I'm not happy in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 08:34 PM
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and this is exactly why MGTOW is superior to TRP. unlike TRP we actually urge you to put yourself first and stop monkey dancing for women. I can support that. In the long run (if a MGTOW truly goes his own way and doesn't base it on bitterness about women) then he'll be a much better-rounded person. And if such a MGTOW ever did want a relationship with a woman in the future, he'd be in a far better position than a terp to have a happy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 08:14 PM
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And what kind of woman is made sexually hot for and full of lust for theme attributes of goodness and kindness and doing nice things for her? Me. Me me me me me me me me me me me. It's the thing that works best. I don't need any external triggers to want sex, but I do need indicators from my guy to want sex with him. If he is emotionally available, kind, sweet and does things for me/with me - that does indeed make me hot for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 08:10 PM
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Dominant doesn't mean unkind. Someone can be dominant and kind and women can be attracted to both the dominance and kindness. Very true. I was just answering the points in the OP. If she wants dominant behaviours in her guy, and he has none, all his kindness won't make her submissive/want him sexually/want to do extra things with him sexually/never want to leave him. She might be attracted by his kindness in general but might be turned off by his non-dominant behaviour sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 08:07 PM
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Will being nice, kind and generous improve a man's success with women? make your gf/wife submissive If she's the kind that responds to dominant male behaviour, no, it wont do a thing. If she doesn't respond sexually to dominant male behaviour, then nothing is going to make her submissive - nice, kind, asshole, dominant or jerk make her hot for you sexually If she's the kind that responds to dominant behaviour in males, no, it wont do a thing. If she doesn't respond sexually to dominant male beha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 10:56 AM
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Someone had to say it. Glad it didn't have to be me. I've been accused of enough today.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 08:48 AM
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Nope. You linked to a load of posts. You can't paste any snark about suicide in, because there isn't any.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 08:45 AM
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Again, show me the exact text - copy and paste - that shows my snark about male suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 06:31 AM
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Show me where I was snarky about male suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 05:55 AM
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Good for them. They got to have their cake and eat it, too, apparently. Where's the cake? Their former relationships went bad and their kids don't get to grow up with their daddy in the house. I'm sure they don't see that as sweet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 05:55 AM
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Are you a merp? If so, how did you get so smart?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 05:12 AM
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No, because you're demanding something for a narrow group of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 05:00 AM
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Men who are struggling are looking for reasons why so they can solve the problem. Which is fine. As long as they don't end up becoming some unrecognisable facsimile of themselves and send themselves nuts. I had to examine myself at one point - why does this guy think he can control me? Answer? I come across as too soft and feminine. After leaving him, I didn't make that mistake again. Wasn't a huge change but was a positive one for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 04:56 AM
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Ah, yes, that's the name! I couldn't recall it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 04:50 AM
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Yep!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 04:49 AM
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If you are a masculine man you will attract women who want a masculine man in their life. Sounds good to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 04:49 AM
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Did you need to fight as a kid in school just because kids picked on you? Yes. Most definitely. Have you ever fought someone even though you did not want to? Yes, including a past boyfriend who was trying to hurt me. Boys go through that very often in their life, and someone like you who has no idea about violence wants to talk about it. My partner and ex never fought anyone in their life. Men don't suicide because of masculinity.....nor do they become violent because of that. Not because of it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 04:48 AM
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Basically we let these immigrants in and it's up to the police to regulate these people... you know.. instead of actually telling these immigrants not to rape / deport them because they actually committed a crime, because reasons... Definitely they should be told in no uncertain terms they'll be deported if they commit crimes, and told what constitutes crime, so they can't claim ignorance. She didn't actually say otherwise. I don't know what her views on that particular thing are. She does say "…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 04:43 AM
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Does this prevent anything from happening? :D Protects him from aphids. And vampires.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 03:07 AM
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Prepare for the onslaught of reports ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 03:05 AM
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Except... a lot of women don't plan on getting hitched. And... nobody cares if a woman is a virgin or not, except very traditional cultures and religions. Do you also want men wearing white if they're virgins and black if they've had a few roots?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 03:04 AM
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50 shades of slut. I'd read that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 02:59 AM
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Of course, once she is no longer the hot married woman looking for wild times on the down low and becomes instead another divorcee with kids in tow looking for a relationship, suddenly all those hot studs are no longer interested (or they pump and dump her fast), and she is left feeling alone and used and wondering WTF happened. None of my formerly single friends with kids had trouble finding great guys to marry/partner with. The only one who complained about being used jumped into bed with men …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 02:18 AM
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I think you're playing the victim here. There are female BPs who have said they didn't get enough sex with former partners and it damaged the relationship I'm one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 02:12 AM
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Yep, true. No problem with that if the instigator also gets a 'be civil' warning.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 02:07 AM
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Swipe. Swipe. Swipe. Swipe. Swipe. Swipe. Swipe. Swipe. Swipe. Swipe. wait Nothing. Sigh. Women suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 02:05 AM
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I didn't mean to be harsh or anything in my reply before. That rper was just running around trying to dig up something up on me. And all he could find was a post where I brushed off his personal attack. I know it's hard work moderating and trying to be fair to all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 01:56 AM
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It implies an authority you aren't meeting the standards of. So you improve. Its co deoendant, fem centric thought. Yes. It's not femcentric. It is very dependent though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 01:46 AM
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They are? Source? Evidence? Factual basis? I know you're going to shit all over this, but mothers posting pics of their post-baby bodies, women posting makeup-free/filter-free pics of themselves, all the memes about telling your daughter she's smart/funny/athletic etc rather than "pretty". Most of them are with women who aren't/weren't sexually attracted to them. We agree. Although some of those women will just be depressed/have a low libido. of course it doesn't help that most women today suffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 12:17 AM
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You really need to get out of my brain. Or, I need to read the thread and reply from there, instead of from my replies. Because skinnysweaty keeps getting there first!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 12:06 AM
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None of that would be even remotely problematic if you actually follow the advice since it tells you clearly to approach thousands of women and reflect upon that. Thousands? You're kidding, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 12:02 AM
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Bottom line, I picked out the good and outlined the danger zones. I realise that red pill men need more help than others, and there aren't many forums where they can talk about their confusion. Why would I offer a replacement for that? Makes no sense when you already have a place. Or should I say had a place. The red pill of two years ago was a sane place. It's not now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 12:01 AM
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And all of your rosy talk about masculinity and defining yourself blah, blah...that's woman talk. Men don't care about any of that crap. Clearly, some do. Prime Exhibit: The red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 11:55 PM
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You have got be kidding me. That was a light-hearted response to a personal attack: "You're just jealous they get to leave before you and you are stuck with your pathetic life."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 11:47 PM
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The person writing that failed to understand the article on which it was based: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/08/cologne-attacks-hard-questions-new-years-eve She's not saying that the Muslim rapists were the real victims. She even says she doesn't believe that the attacks were just motivated by wanting to rob people who were more privileged. She says some of the attacks were far too serious for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 11:44 PM
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Somehow I doubt that. I've read your hostile posts towards men... And your biases have caused you to misunderstand every one of them. I am not hostile towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 10:43 PM
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Oh and tests can't be failed? Ummmm.... "If you pass the tests..." Right, so in that case if the man needs a different woman. All cool if he can walk away and find the kind of woman he wants. Not cool if her not doing as he expected seriously dented his identity and sense of masculinity - and causes him loss of identity and depression. (the red pill insists she'll succumb if he follows the red pill program, so he ends up thinking he just can never be a real man)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 10:41 PM
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The red pill simply explains how to be, or at the very least, how to emulate Chad. That's fine. And could work out well for you. All I'm saying is that seeing your masculinity in terms of what individual women think of you is a negative thing. You get to define your masculinity, not any individual woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 10:38 PM
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Edit: Girl-brain prevents me from formatting properly, imagine the numbers are 1, then 2, then 3. lol it's not your girl brain, it's reddit's brain. Won't let you do numbers like that. 1.Yes! 100% a man's looks matters. I'm not claiming they don't. I'm commenting on the crazy focus. I know what it's done to women. I don't think men should head down the same rabbit hole. Women are trying to pull themselves out and that's a good thing. Improve your looks, yes, but don't obsess about what the gende…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 10:35 PM
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Ima turn this place into misandry central ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 10:25 PM
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that made me laugh
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 10:23 PM
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I keep confusing you with another user with sushi in their name. And then your posts keep confusing me until I realise ....
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 10:22 PM
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I am thereby handing women-- whether I'll admit this to myself or not-- total power over my identity as a masculine man. Yes, a definite danger zone for male identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 10:20 PM
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Damn, you picked out the same quote from gavinok and replied with almost exactly what I did 3 minutes before me. A man who is a step ahead of me ... flings arms about in misandric rage!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 10:18 PM
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Coulda fooled me. Then you're easily fooled.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 10:11 PM
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Ok Mr Cross. Don't you know I added extra doses of misandry, just for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 10:10 PM
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Are you saying RP should be more realistic about the possibility of failure? If you go to medical school, there are definite boundaries and tests to pass. If you pass the tests, you become a medical professional. It's totally different with relationships and sex. It's not failure for the man if she just doesn't respond to red pill methods. I'm telling you that not all women are going to respond well to those methods, for whatever reason. If he tries to get more sex and it doesn't work, she might…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 10:09 PM
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I don't see feminists cozying up to Muslims. They do want to respect their culture/religion and help people suffering in war zones. Some war zones happened directly because of invasion from the west, and people conveniently forget that. Some Muslims are feminists too, by the way. We can definitely go too far and need to be careful about who comes into a country. I think we need to keep the culture of our countries intact.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 10:02 PM
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Yes, but I kind of covered that with my point about masculinity. Because RP teaches that if you are masculine "enough" she won't want to branch-swing and she won't want to cheat. Setting up a constant anxiety that she's on the edge of cheating/branch-swinging and you need to be constantly vigilant. You're right though about the extreme focus on these things. It's unhealthy. Will add this in.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 09:51 PM
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you should tell that to muslim men. I know that you believe western men are the root of all evil for women but they are not those who will bring back a patriarchal society. What the hell? You're off on a tangent here. I have never said any such thing about western men. There is good in all cultures, but I far prefer our western culture that our men and women built in many respects.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 09:42 PM
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What exactly is bad about pursuing something that might fail? There is NOTHING wrong about pursuing greater dominance or a greater expression of masculinity, if you so desire it. You're misunderstanding me. What I'm saying is that pursuing it with the expectation that it will make a woman submissive is the danger zone. Because if it doesn't have the desired effect, and the red pill insists that it should have worked (which they do) then your only conclusion is that you are not and will never be …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 09:40 PM
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Your post is the equivalent of walking into the gym and seeing someone inevitably using a machine wrong and saying "wow this is so dangerous" What if the machines themselves were screwy? The treadmills ran too fast or too slow. The weights fell apart when you used them. But the gym instructors were all saying, 'Just use the best of our equipment and forget the screwy stuff'. But it was almost all screwy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 07:52 PM
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Yes. The receptionist heard her crying out, she had scratches and he admitted to taking off the condom and holding her down in a headlock and putting his hand over her mouth to stop her from yelling out. The sex session had taken half an hour and he hadn't come and he got angry when the sex worker suggested doing a different position - which is when he ripped the condom off, pushed her down and entered her. Because he "stopped" before coming... somehow it wasn't rape. I'd say he had a problem wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 04:40 AM
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In the Australian case, he held her down in a lock, and in her struggle to get away from him, he scratched her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 03:51 AM
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Nothing you say about them goes against the red pill idea of an alpha male though. Yes it does. TRP claims women want alpha men to treat them rough, else they won't be interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 03:22 AM
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This is why people got so pissed when Trump said "when you're famous you can do anything. Grab 'em by the pussy.... Obviously, not even Trump can. The woman he did that to decades ago took him to court. Trumps hand on her pussy was obviously unwanted. And that was before Trump boasted about being able to do that to any woman. He lied through his orange lips.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 03:20 AM
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Happened in Australia. An American petty officer forced unprotected sex on a prostitute, who had agreed to protected sex only. He probably only stopped before finishing because it was in a brothel and the receptionist would be able to hear the women's screams. http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2009/s2774589.htm Not rape, it seems. Or, not rape if you're a prostitute. Fuck, who'd be a prostitute?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 02:43 AM
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Shaming works, full stop. For women shaming them about their looks, body and sexual habits work. either they'll be upset, as you said, or they'll conform to what society says a woman should be like. It can't be true all men respond well to shaming, else you wouldn't have rp- because men got those messages out in the world and wanted a place to talk about their shame. And the suicide rate in men is, in large part, caused by concepts of masculinity and those men thinking they've failed. Am not sur…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 01:21 AM
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Yeh, yeah, 'looks and weight aren't that important'. Get outta town, who ya tryin' to fool? No one says that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 12:30 AM
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BP is yuuuugggeee. It's everything non red pill. You're going to get very varied and conflicting advice. But here's the best: "Life is a toolbox. Only take what you need." (Just snatched that from DucksCanDance, but he said "RP is a toolbox. Only take what you need")
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 12:27 AM
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As RP would say, "it's a toolbox, only take what you need" As BP would say "Life is a toolbox. Only take what you need" (Some RP members: waaaahhhh, we don't know which tools to pick out. Somebody needs to pat us on the head and tell us)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 12:24 AM
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Yes, but it doesn't mean a skinny guy is out. Nor should trp make them think that, because it's pretty toxic. Yes, work out and put on muscle if you can, but not all men can look like an ideal body type, no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 12:21 AM
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Watching a woman pee standing up would terrify me though, like a monkey driving a car. Look, no hands, Ma!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 12:19 AM
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The guy's body is the middle is just fine: http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/56b1e30e2e5265b6008b45b5-1200/in-2012-a-study-from-the-institute-of-neuroscience-used-3d-visualization-software-to-estimate-our-preferences-for-both-male-and-female-bodies.jpg http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/56b1e2de6e97c62c008b4603-1200/this-has-continued-into-the-21st-century--where-the-ideal-is-similar-to-the-90s.jpg http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/56b1e3c76e97c61d008b45f7-1200/for-both-sexes…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 09:36 PM
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all this will mean is that more people will be here on ppd, trp, and blue pill sub Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 08:57 PM
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being a skinny dude isn't really any better than being overweight Oh yes it is. Lots of women like skinny dudes, as long as they don't look anorexic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 08:53 PM
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Funny enough, there is never a more secure time for a woman, than the point where a man is fully, financially, and emotionally invested in her, than that moment she popps out a kid. God no. Don't you know the stats? One of the most dangerous times for a woman who lives with a man is when she's pregnant or just after childbirth. It can happen if he was already abusive or he can be triggered by the pregnancy, even if he wanted her to have a baby. It's a thing that is grossly under-reported, becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 08:48 PM
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One of the great mistakes of our time was leaving feminists and feminist-leaning women any interpretational authority whatsoever over what does and doesn't constitute as masculinity. One of the great mistakes of all time ever was women allowing men in general any authority whatsoever in saying what does or doesn't constitute femininity. You want to air a grievance about feminists and their interpretations? Try looking at thousands of years of history and what men did to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 08:33 PM
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This is exactly what TRP used to teach, it's fucking retarded what it's become now. Yes, I've noticed. A few months back, I came across one of the first ever posts in trp (or was it the first??? unsure). But it was good. It was written by the person who started trp I think and outlaid what the red pill is about. I posted it here in PPD as an OP and asked what happened to the red pill and how did they lose their way so badly. I think that trp post was 2 years ago. I'd link it now, but it's too fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 08:30 PM
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So what, is he only a disgusting and weak person if the other person dislikes it? What if his last partner loved it but his new partner secretly despises it? Was he strong and masculine then and disgusting and weak now? He's the same person. Your personal definition just lacks nuance. No, I don't see him as "strong and masculine" just because he leads and his wife likes it. There would have to be other indicators. I do see him as disgusting and weak if he controls his wife and she hates it. No r…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 08:25 PM
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They squat into it because they sit over the edge OK, I'm thinking of a shower that is just a rectangle - no edge or tub. Of course it's the UK and Australia, those places are terrible. So terrible that women pee standing up! Goddammit they're ferals.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 08:21 PM
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Sounds like a difficult childhood :( I know so many men who dislike their fathers for the same reason. I'm glad you know not to choose this kind of man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 08:18 PM
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females are emotional beings, sometimes too emotional thus they do very very fucking stupid things from time to time Of course, men never do fucking stupid things based on emotions. rolls eyes You will never be able to do all this, you may provide for the family because you have a failure of a man, but you will never ever give the protection that is neccessary, you will never replace a man as a head of the house, that's just a fact. If you're American, a woman with a gun can protect just as well…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 08:13 PM
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You do realize nobody wants to self improve right? I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 05:31 AM
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Yes, why doesn't rp teach men this? Instead of all the bitter tripe.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 05:26 AM
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Upvote
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 05:19 AM
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The Greasy Pole (and his wife, The Greasy Hole)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 05:16 AM
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No it isn't. What? So you are telling me, that if I ask my girlfriend to have sex, then stick it up her ass instead of her vagina without telling her that I meant anal sex, I am doing nothing wrong? Are you being serious? My post said this: "A girl likes to get off by masturbating while giving a guy a blow job. She meets a guy and they agree to have sex." You can assume from the above that it is oral sex that he agreed to. That kind of sex. A blow job. WHAT?! You are now discussing something com…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 05:12 AM
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That's why taking care of babies is women's work. That makes zero sense. And it's not women's work in all cultures. Some share equally. Why the fuck did those women need to 'squat into it'? Squat into what? That's plain weird. Outdoor music concerts have port-o-potties and trees. I don't know what dystopian fantasy music festivals you go to. Just the ones that tens of thousands go to in Australia and the UK. But hey, maybe I hallucinated them... http://www.abc.net.au/news/2005-01-20/big-day-out-…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 05:03 AM
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Wait, What? They agreed to have sex. Sex, by any logical human being, is assumed to vaginal sex unless otherwise stated. Oral sex is sex. A blow job is sex. It's not PIV but that's not important to this scenario. If you want to use that example, it's more like, a woman telling a man that she gets off by scraping her teeth a man's penis and biting hard on men's penises and the man agreeing to participate in that act, then, in the middle of it, he realizes he's in serious pain and asks her to stop…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 04:39 AM
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A real man would take on more risk regardless. With babies hanging off him? I seriously don't think so. The women who I've seen pee in the shower always squat into it. Women at music concerts also seem to want to sit, or they squat in the trees. Sorry, women stand to pee in the shower. They don't 'squat into it'. They don't need to. What you witnessed was probably a girl trying to hide it. And have you even been to outdoor music concerts? They have stand-up toilet stalls only at many. No room to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 04:27 AM
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Everything becomes chaotic, which is what you are witnessing in the world as we speak. I like the world as it is. Except the patriarchal bits. If you think the world is chaotic now, then take a look at history...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 04:24 AM
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Jeez I was just being all nice and agreeing with you...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 03:42 AM
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That's not risk taking though. I'm saying women throughout history have been in enough risk let alone take on more. And no, women squat to pee even on the floors of basements at fraternity parties. Because clothes, shoes, modesty, what they've been taught. Do women who pee in the shower squat or stand up? Do women at music concerts insist on squatting or do they use the stand-up toilet facilities? There is nothing about women's anatomy that says they need to squat to pee. It's just the way toile…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 03:40 AM
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Where do you see such things? I can't imagine this is even 5% of relationships. I grew up in a low socio-economic set of neighbourhoods. This was common. I still see it today. The fact that so many women are killed after leaving their partners shows that there are many more women afraid to leave or left in fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 02:52 AM
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I'd rephrase that like, People that are controlled usually fear losing something the controller provides them that they feel they need. Good rephrase. We don't see a lot of people being controlled by physical force these days, and certainly not most relationships. I can't agree with this. I see a lot of women afraid to leave because they're terrified he'll kill/hurt them or the kids. True that it's not most relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 02:43 AM
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YES! I agree with terps not marrying 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 02:41 AM
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There's no dressing up or roleplay or other type of pretending involved. The dressing up thing was a joke. The role play doesn't have to be decided on each day or even talked about at all. But if control is consensual, then no one is truly controlling the other, not in the context of this discussion. The control I outlined is control where the man must have things his own way regardless of what the woman wants. actually debating you is pointless Don't lie. Debating me is actually fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 02:39 AM
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Yeah, there are some other things like beards, risk-taking, and peeing standing up, you know, man things. A beard is certainly a man thing. Risk-taking more so for men, but women's lives have always been risky in history, so I'm unsure if it would hold true if you had a generation of women who didn't have babies. Peeing standing up is not a man thing. Toilets are. Men invented toilets. They could have invented toilets where women stand up - which would have been a fuck more hygienic. But of cour…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 02:32 AM
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What about the feelings of safety that a woman can feel from a man making some or a lot the plans and decisions for her? Most women don't feel safety from that, just annoyance. Most people don't want their partner making all the decisions. It just doesn't feel natural. In fact, it might feel obsessive and make them feel less safe. But we're all different and if a woman likes that and finds a man who'll make the decisions without abusing his position, all good.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 02:23 AM
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If you have a good relationship with your boss you become like family. That's all well and good. Just hope he or she doesn't have any STDs and you're all good. Bonk away!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 02:20 AM
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Just parasites, of course. What else?!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 02:18 AM
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People who are controlled usually fear someone stronger than they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 02:18 AM
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As if gaining control over a woman physically is the goal... I don't see how you got that from my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 01:00 AM
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So much yes. Not all men from third world countries of course - many fine human beings there - but the more uneducated, often the more the men want to control the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 12:58 AM
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Oh come now. Unless your boss in your bed every night and you're bonking him/her, you're going way off track.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 12:55 AM
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Insecure because you need to control someone in order to feel in control of yourself. Needy because of all that focus on controlling a woman, all that need for her - when you could be out doing all kinds of great stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 12:54 AM
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I've known of more women who have to ask their husband for money for essentials and the husband spends up big on things he wants. But that's a personal observation and I'm quite sure there are many men who hand over their whole check and it gets mismanaged and wasted on a lot of useless stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 12:53 AM
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Ah, we are poop from the same bottom... so to speak. I agree it communicates insecurity and low status.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 12:51 AM
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A lot of women like this It's not control over her sexuality if she wants the man to always lead. Because you don't have actual control. What you have is happy consent. And so on and so on with your other examples. The line is drawn where harm is done. Harm is defined by the couple themselves. If a woman (or man) is unwillfully participating in something, then fine, there is a level of control that isn't right. But some people, a LOT of people, are happier with less control and placing their tru…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 12:49 AM
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isnt not compromising a display of power? Not in a relationship. It seems very insecure and needy to me. Business is different. You don't share a body and life and love with business colleagues and adversaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 12:46 AM
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First of all, if a woman decides to do porn, become a stripper, pose nude or engage any other consensual activity that involves her own body and her own sexuality, she has that right. Feminism believes this too, in general. Not all feminists, of course and not all women and not all men. Some women do really bad things, commit murder, traffic in hard drugs, commit perjury, etc. If they commit these awful crimes they are responsible, not some man. They should be given a jail sentence that is equiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 12:16 AM
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She's one of a small percentage. They exist. Some people have a deep need to be told what to do, both men and women. It's not your fault, and if you don't abuse it and you're okay with it, you're golden.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 12:13 AM
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Lol okay so when my boss tells me to do something at work is that a roleplay too? What the hell? A relationship isn't a work relationship. Maybe you two dress up as boss and secretary when you're at home, but like I said, it's outside this discussion, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 12:10 AM
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What the hell?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 12:08 AM
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But according to certain feminists she is a poor exploited thing that was forced to do this because of the patriarchy and needs rescuing. 'Certain' feminists? If you mean individual feminists, then yep, people have individual views. In general, feminism would say it's her choice and would not say she was forced (unless there was evidence that she was).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 12:04 AM
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'grats
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 12:02 AM
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Control can be consensual That's role playing and outside this discussion. In fact you give up a level of personal freedom within absolutely any romantic relationship. Yes, you do. And if you're happy, then you're happy. It's when you lose more personal freedom than you're happy with and the other person is trying to take those freedoms that the other person is controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 12:02 AM
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Personal lives are the same. Its fairly normal. Its weird that you find this disgusting. A controlling person is a person who has to have their own way, even against the wishes of another. Yes, I do find that disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 11:59 PM
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I can't see a man who rapes another man as masculine. I see it as dominant, yes, but not masculine. Women rape women in jail, too. I understand the raped man would feel a loss of masculinity because he was overpowered (and yes, penetrated) but I don't see him personally as less masculine. I know a man who was raped as a teenager by a man. I certainly don't see him as less masculine than any other man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 11:56 PM
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It's not control if she's happy to wear what you ask her to. If you demand she wears something, against her wishes, then you're controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 11:50 PM
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My guy does the finances in my house. I prefer to focus on big picture number crunching, such as property investing, which I'm good at. And no, a man does not need to sign over his cheque.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 11:48 PM
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Yes you could say that. Though I'm not sure if sociopathy is classified as a mental illness, because people with sociopathy go to jail if they kill someone, whereas someone suffering from a bipolar illness might not. I'm not going to pretend to be knowledgable in that area, because I'm not. It could be said they're weak morally if they know something is wrong but do it anyway for their own pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 11:46 PM
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However, I've yet to be convinced there's anything inherently weak about hitting. It's just something we'd prefer men didn't do in favor of the safety of those around them. So, you don't see it as weak at all when a woman lashes out and hits her child so hard she hurts them? Rather than finding a more rational solution? Not a weak moment? It's very feminine to hit. Women have been doing this for centuries.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 11:38 PM
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What is masculinity mean to you? Has a dick. Has more muscles than the average woman. Displays of power - sport, what he can lift, can open jars. Knows how to control his strength and power = strength of mind. You view a male compromising as masculine and a male not compromising as masculine. No, I view a man who doesn't compromise with his partner as not very masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 11:29 PM
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Nothing you described is controlling. She's happy in her relationship. Controlling is when you try to force things. I respect my guy, but I don't submit to him. We work things out equally. I couldn't imagine him deciding everything we do, but if your woman likes that, she likes it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 11:25 PM
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Don't put your fetish bullshit on me I will if I want. I'm controlling like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 11:21 PM
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Males controlling females, rather than just control per se, is rather masculine. Control over others in itself is masculine, but not as masculine. So when men control, it's masculine. And when women control, it's masculine, but just not as masculine? Control is 'masculine' even when women do it? Just trying to get your words straight in my head. A lot of this stuff is skin deep. Masculinity and feminine are social things. They need to be expressed in order to exist. Which is why shows of power a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 11:18 PM
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Read the article. And, just as I said... The men doing this are either convicted and incarcerated, or jammed up for years in criminal litigation. Read the article again. Until that point, she was controlled. And so men do do this. And you'd have to be crazy to think that every relationship like this leads to the woman telling and the man going to jail. In most cases, the women either leaves or she stays her whole life and puts up with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 11:05 PM
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Hitting is a uniquely masculine solution to problems. It's not. Mothers hit children. It's been recognised that it can be damaging and a result of losing control ( a weak moment) It might not be well-suited to modern civilized society, but that's essentially how men were designed to problem-solve I'd argue we became more civilised when people learned not to hit in order to get what they want. We're still in a process of evolving today. Instead of taking a direct shaming tactic, "Hitting is wrong…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 11:01 PM
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It's role playing unless you don't want the control but go along with it for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 10:55 PM
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Yep!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 10:53 PM
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they do, they believe they need to be controlled so they don't make "wrong" decisions. You think women think they need to be controlled so they don't make bad decisions?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 10:53 PM
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Just curious - in what specific ways does he control you? And does he control you in any way you don't wish to be controlled? If you're all up for it, I'd more see it as role-playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 10:51 PM
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but plenty of people just assume that her giving me the money to budget equals some kind of abuse Gosh no. I hate that kind of stuff, and generally the men in my relationships handle it. Except for my first, who spent money like it was candy and I took over. I do the big-picture number crunching - investing, buying property. But I find the bill-paying and budgeting dead boring and am happy to hand it over.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 10:50 PM
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Then you're not controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 10:47 PM
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Yet, I have known many gay men who seemed far more masculine to me than many straight men, and with a couple of them I know they exercise give-and-take during sex. I'm not saying you're saying this, but if a man is raped by another man, does that make him less masculine, just because he was penetrated?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 10:46 PM
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I think calling it weak is just a feminine imperative shaming tactic. It's considered "weak" because women like to discourage men from using their advantage (physical strength). Anyone bigger than a baby can hit a baby and win. Women do not try to discourage men from using their physical strength! Please explain how you think they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 10:41 PM
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You not compromising would make me see you as not masculine and I would leave you. But of course, a small percentage of women would stay, even under those conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 10:40 PM
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Would you be willing to extrapolate that from what I said? No, it doesn't make the people weak. It could actually make them stronger in dealing with such a thing. But the actual illness is a weakness, as it is in any physical illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 10:32 PM
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Yes, yes, people invent all kinds of stuff in their minds to rationalise things. Men in ancient Rome who penetrated other men's asses liked to pretend all kinds of things. But it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 10:29 PM
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They only go to jail when they are found out. Cue Mr Cross telling me it's all the women's fault if they don't tell, even though he just claimed no man alive ever does these things. http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/intimidating-violent-obsessive-the-men-who-control-women/story-fnet09p2-1226764275835 Mr Gittany told Ms Harnum not to gaze in the direction of other men, not to see her friends when she was overseas, to refrain from wearing high heels, revealing clothing, or wearing her…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 10:23 PM
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You're assuming his motivations when you say that his mind has given way under pressure. Let's go with "he enjoys the act" for the sake of argument. That's rare. A valid point but rare. I mentioned it because I recognise that a small percentage of people are psychopathic. It could be argued though, that psychopathy is a weakness in itself, as it is a disorder. So while the act in itself might not be weak, the underlying disorder is. And psychopathy is seen in both men and women and isn't exclusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 10:16 PM
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I know what you're saying - you're citing the past behaviour of men as evidence of masculinity. But I have a different view. People in power tend to exercise that power over the weak. Such as when slaves were brought to America. White women often exercised control and power over the slaves, male and female. Was the behaviour of those white women masculine? Did the fact that the male slaves were being controlled make them not masculine? Women can easily become controlling and cruel if they rise t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 10:10 PM
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What if that man weighed his options and decided hitting a [baby/woman/wall] was the best course of action? How exactly is that weak? Dictionary meaning: "liable to break or give way under pressure; easily damaged" His state of mind is weak and liable to give way under pressure. Hitting a baby means you either enjoy the act or you've broken under pressure. You might decide that punching a baby might be the "best course of action" if it's screaming and you want it to stop, but society will judge …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 10:00 PM
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Gay men who are penetrated are all not masculine? Got news for ya. In evolutionary terms, no women's ass being penetrated ever made a baby. Therefore, it's not "being made like a woman" to have your ass penetrated. It's a personal choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 09:52 PM
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No man alive in the West controls where women go or what they do, controls the family finances with the woman having no say, controlling what she wears, or hurting a woman to get her to comply. Are you nuts?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 09:48 PM
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That goes without saying. It's hard to put disclaimers on everything you write in PPD. in the said scenario, the pain should have been agreed on beforehand, with safe words and all of that if it was going to be a BDSM encounter. That wasn't the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 09:46 PM
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If a UFC fighter hit something instead of solving issues, that might be low-FTO but it certainly wouldn't be weak. If he hit someone vulnerable who wasn't willing to fight him, of course it would be as weak as piss.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 09:45 PM
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Is this also true?: "She lets me know how she likes things, and I make them that way, because I like pleasing her."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 09:36 PM
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In that case, why isn't he keeping a tighter leash on you instead of letting you while your day away having your own opinions in PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 09:34 PM
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So women who want to be controlled are role playing and men who want to be controlling are psychopaths? "and he's role playing"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 09:30 PM
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Masculinity is defined by aggressiveness Not in my view it isn't. Masculinity is far more rounded than that. Aggression can be weak and hitting out without solving any issues, such as aggression in children. Lots of adults display aggression in this way, too, male or female.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 09:28 PM
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She's role playing and he's role playing. Sometimes, it goes beyond role playing, where due to trauma in her past, she feels a psychological need to be controlled. But you're talking way outside the norm here. something... something... try putting forward a reasonable point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 09:23 PM
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That's not masculinity. How is power over women masculinity? I personally see such guys as needy, weedy gremlins who need to push physically weaker people down in order to make themselves feel better. Such people feel lacking inside. It's psychologically weak sauce for a man to try to control women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 08:45 PM
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All of the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 08:40 PM
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Damn. Triggered!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 08:37 PM
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People who can't stop themselves from having sex when the other person obviously wants to stop shouldn't be having sex Consider this scenario: A girl likes to get off by masturbating while giving a guy a blow job. She meets a guy and they agree to have sex. The guy is very inexperienced with sex, maybe even a virgin. During sex, she masturbates herself while raking her teeth over his penis and balls and then biting. The guy cries out in pain but she insists she's close to coming and she keeps go…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 08:28 PM
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you know it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 07:33 PM
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lol you hussy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 04:15 AM
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OP, you probably need to add to your post that you (as in general PPD man) saw the big dick on your woman's ex-boyfriend in a locker room. Because red pillers are squirrelling out of it by saying that "well, why would I even know if she didn't tell me? She must be obsessed with big dicks. Red flag!"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 01:47 AM
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I'm blue, and no. Not even if their spouse was ok with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 01:40 AM
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all the single ladies All of them. Every one. You no longer have time for the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 01:39 AM
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The anger is at the Blue Pill programming that was fed to us at a young age A very selective programming it seems. Most men didn't get that programming.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 12:28 AM
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this seems like a major point that Bloopers like to ignore. Really? Bloops don't know that women have uteruses and boobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 12:27 AM
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The reality and absolute heart of TRP is that men and women are different, so most of these discussions are ridiculous because they don't take that ABSOLUTE FACT into account. If someone accepts this, then they are automatically at least 50% Red. Wrong. Almost everyone on earth accepts this, including the blues here at PPD. So it can't be a thing claimed as being red pill. The heart of the red pill is in wanting control over women because they lack control over their lives. And they try to use r…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 12:23 AM
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Testosterone suppresses emotions So can female hormones, such as the pill. I felt emotionally flat on it, as do quite a few women, depending on which pill it is. But can't T also induce rage and anger?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 12:14 AM
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I quoted you. Your first post in this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 12:12 AM
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There's the kicker. Men will usually find very proportionate faces in women the most attractive. Women can find disproportionate faces in men attractive, such as Robert De Niro.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 09:34 PM
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This is what you said in the first place and is what I was replying to: Women put off kids because it harms their bodies? No. If women really cared that much about the effect of pregnancy on their bodies they'd have children sooner because their bodies bounce back more easily. You were talking about how a body looks after pregnancy. I demonstrated that the look of the body of a very young woman can be more affected by pregnancy than an older woman. A young woman who gets multiple, deep stretch m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 09:30 PM
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Women enjoying their sexuality does not have to lead to becoming single mothers! And, a woman can have sex just one time and become a single mother, as happens sometimes to teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 08:47 PM
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has evolved into the belief that women are naturally good and they should never be held responsible for anything they do. Feminists fight against this belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 08:46 PM
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In the way that they say women should disregard their libidos and keep their n count low. For the sake of society. Do you have a few days? He was an uptight, egotistical blatherer who failed to back up his assertions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 08:45 PM
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We're talking looks only in this discussion, so we have to leave other factors out. Yes, tall men have the edge. Yes, men who aren't fat have the edge. But enough women like a dad bod and enough women don't require a man to be tall. I don't have a preference for tall men myself. Your tastes may vary but in 99,99% of the cases guy B will be more attractive. Certain traits are generally more attractive than others. Yes but you're going to extremes. Both short and fat makes me picture Danny Devito.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 08:42 PM
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I can hamster a girl with a great personality into a "good" prospect but a girl with a nice hip to waist ratio will always be more attractive in general. And that lines up with the study - men are less variable in their tastes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 08:35 PM
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Wow, that's a very emotional response. If you backtrack to what is being said in the linked study, its simply that women's tastes are more varied than men's. Of course it's beneficial to work on your looks/body. But the study is just saying what bp women have been trying to say all along - that their tastes in men are all over the place. I see it with my girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 08:33 PM
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k
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 08:24 PM
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In what way does trp say women have no right to sexuality? In the way that they say women should disregard their libidos and keep their n count low. For the sake of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 08:24 PM
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That doesn't matter. If you'd do it if you could, then you're a slut. (slut as defined by the terps)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 08:20 PM
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Idk, going by PPD most terps come across to me as very sheltered people. God yes. I've even said this to a couple of terps and they've said that yes, they did grow up sheltered compared to the suburbs in which I grew up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 08:17 PM
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Thank fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 08:04 PM
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Atlas is a lawyer?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 08:03 PM
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Yeah. I don't even know any guy who actually uses "slut" as an insult unless he is just joking. The red pill???
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 08:01 PM
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The OP is setting up two sides - one side of which doesn't exist. Which is the problem I have with this whole discussion. It's a false premise. The blues aren't trying to get stodgy men to accept all women, because they believe that stodgy men (who believe women who have casual sex are damaged goods) have a right to like what they like. The blues are simply putting forth a view that women have as much right to their sexuality as men, which the red pill insists they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 07:57 PM
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This argument is based on a false premise. You've set up two sides, and there aren't two sides. One side is mostly on point, which is the red pill stance. The other "side" has differing viewpoints. Most blues are NOT trying to convince men to overlook a woman's past. Instead, they're saying that if it bothers you that much, then go for the kind of woman you want. You're misunderstanding most of the what the blues are saying. The blues aren't trying to get stodgy men to accept all women, because …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 07:56 PM
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Slutdom is a state of mind.....
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 07:45 PM
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Whatever hormones I got, my brain was hugely developed at birth. You must believe me on this. It's a true field report from when I was a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 09:17 AM
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LOL no there aren't. lol yes there are. TRP even sez so. The 'top' honchos are having the sexy times with lotsa the women. And many of the rest want to be just like them. So they're sluts in theory even if not in practice. There's hella more men who WANT to be promiscuous than women who do, but most of them cannot actualize this desire. On this we can agree! No, your self reported surveys where men report having more partners than women do not count as evidence. Why u no believe mah field report…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 09:16 AM
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How do we know he got any of them horny? He might just be good looking/good bod and women want him. In that (awful) sexcapades journal made by a female college student, she mentioned a couple of men she found hot to look at and so she pursued them for sex, but found them very lacking. (The journal was posted here recently as an OP, maybe even by you?) Once the looks/bods of guys like this start to fade (somewhere in the 30+ range), they won't have a lot to offer in the relationships department (…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 06:10 AM
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I have high levels of female hormones, according to blood tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 06:03 AM
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Slutty men destroy things for women, too. That's the way it is. And there's a hella more slutty men about than slutty women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 01:48 AM
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the 3 dudes with their sausage in the same butt, and that girl and her magical asshole Her magical asshole will be dribbling poop forever more. Ain't no asshole that was meant fo' that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 01:47 AM
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as soon as she is done sucking the lifeblood from him and taking a bath in his remains so she can stay young forever Damn, that's the step I always miss taking in relationships. Must remember this time around...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 01:43 AM
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Yes. And why?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 01:16 AM
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No probs - but actually neither is longer. They're about the same in length.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 11:00 PM
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These women got it drilled into their heads that sex should be a mutually exclusive experience, so they're hardly representative. Don't tell me you haven't seen a link that gets posted often in PPD, about a survey of low n-count college women who preferred that the men they date also be low n-count? They really aren't. But let me guys, unattractive/awkward/introverted/etc. guys don't count. Sorry, but they are hard to find. Even church-going young men are likely to have had sex with quite a few …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 10:49 PM
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Do you get that that is kind of fucked up? ??? A persona someone puts on for business purposes is fucked up? Is that what you mean? To me, business is business. What is a 'normal' personality to you, then? What constitutes a 'natural' behavior? There is no normal personality. All I've said is that in romantic terms, I prefer a man who is himself when I meet him. He's not going to pretend to have an interest in things he doesn't like, or try to neg/dread me, or act super-confident when he's actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 05:32 AM
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The biggest mistake BP makes is believing that TRP made them that way. BP doesn't think that! They think certain people are attracted to trp. (Which is mostly men with pre-existing fear/hate of women) Society spits them out and you laugh at them. No, they projected their failures onto women and laughed at them. BP just laughs at the weirdass rp theories and assertions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 03:46 AM
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No, because as I said, it's not conscious, and if it's conscious there's a problem of casual sex being risky for women. We've had isolated cultures of free casual sex in the past. It's probably the most natural for human beings. Personally, I prefer a solid LTR with one person, that lasts a lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 03:41 AM
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Do you believe most women innately want to have lots of casual sex? Not consciously. But yes. I think it's probably in our DNA.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 03:32 AM
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Again, I don't have to live with or have sex with or share a bathroom with people at work. Lots of people are very different at work to how they are at home. It's expected. But I don't want to share my home and body with a guy who's putting on a personality. I just don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 03:31 AM
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If they sacrifice it, obviously they're making a choice and don't want to do the party scene because they'd rather have a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 03:28 AM
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You're wrong. It does.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:49 AM
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Awwww
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:49 AM
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It's the same thing. A person can have sex with different people - learn who they are and what they want out of life along the way, and then be ready for a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:48 AM
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I don't see how this is relevant to my points. Adrenaline comes from risk. These are the men who will partake in risky activities such as sleeping with prostitutes. How is it risky? She'll insist upon a condom and you know she won't kill you or hurt you. Sounds like no risk to me. but for the most part, women who actively engage in casual sex are not necessarily damaged women. I didn't say they were. At all. I said some are and these are not generally the adrenaline junkies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:47 AM
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You're seriously not paying attention to the social backlash & social ostracism that's becoming more vocalized. Aside from people using dysfunctional girls & undesirables pillaging used girls like snails cleaning the dredges of shit from the bottom of a fish tank, certain men are wising up. You're definitely not getting the chads you want. &; more will follow. Jeez men having sex is like snails cleaning the shit from fish tanks? You're weird, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:41 AM
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So as generations go by with more and more kids being raised without dads, we are essentially creating more criminals or potential criminals. Except ... the crime rate has gone down dramatically since the 1980s. And children of the 1980s mostly had two parents (the generation of the 50s and 60s). So... what now?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:37 AM
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Why are men who spend their youth slutting it up some how different than women if a lack of LTR experience makes you a less than ideal partner? Because men want fun and women shouldn't have any. Insert rp hamstering and rationalisations.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:35 AM
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It is not the sex but lack of LTR experience. It would be different if women were fertile til, say, 50 and there was time to both ride the CC and get LTR experience. But the divorce stats show getting married because your fertility window is closing, and because Chad ain't interested anymore is not a recipe for marriage success. I don't like that thought. No judgement on men/women who do have babies up to age 50, but it's far better to have them before age 40-45. Rates of cancer etc increase the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:33 AM
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There's no two ways about it, can't have you're cake & eat it too. Actually, there are many ways about it. And women can have their cake and eat it too. Despite red pill assertions to the contrary. Source: college women who travel, have fun and settle down with one man when they're 28+
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:26 AM
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That's not necessarily true. You can have high libido men who are unattractive, but still want to have as much sex as they possibly can. They're still adrenaline junkies, but they're not exactly getting the most out of what they want. Casual sex isn't anywhere near as risky for men as it is for women. Having lots of casual sex does not denote an adrenaline junkie man. It might not denote an adrenaline junkie woman either - such a woman might just be very emotionally damaged. She's not likely to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:24 AM
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Same thing could be said about professionalism. Do you prefer to work with people who aren't professional in their work? I don't sleep with or share my personal life with work colleagues. It doesn't matter to me if they're adopting a professional persona that they drop when they're at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:17 AM
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You literally made the OP about that topic. It was about women and their options.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:15 AM
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Yes, true. Although most college girls do go off and travel these days, many will do so with a boyfriend. This was basically a shitpost. Am so over red pillers pushing what men should do and what women should do and be.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:14 AM
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How philosophically stunted must your mind be to not understand my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:05 AM
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But if this what women want to do, don't say TRP is wrong when they say most women ride the cock carousel and are promiscuous. How the fack do I know what most women do? I'm saying they have the potential to do this and it's a very big ask for them not to. Terps are always going on about what they're sacrificing for a LTR. Well, it's nothing compared to what women are sacrificing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:03 AM
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I'm an adult male and I've never felt this extreme sex drive some men claim they have and no it's not an absurd thing to ask a woman to stay pure I haven't stuck my dick in anyone yet and I won't till I'm married. It's perfectly fine to want a woman who hasn't had sex yet - as long as don't call women who do have sex sluts (aka the red pill). Oh, and in red pill land, men like you don't exist. As for the wall and baby rabies neither concept is made up not only can this be observed in real life B…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 11:57 PM
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Bs = Brilliant statement. Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 11:53 PM
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rationalizations = Bill Burr
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 11:52 PM
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It's just that the younger women like to think they will be young forever, but once they start approaching the wall they are all too aware of it. Women are not aware of it. (Except for the few for whatever reason just don't attract men, and haven't attracted them at any age. These women will say "where have all the good men gone"?). Most women just reach an age where they start thinking about marriage and maybe children. It happens to men too. It's called maturity. Young women with a sex drive a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 11:51 PM
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Me and other TRP men will still prefer young pure women to partner with over used up Chad's groupies Yay, 'cos we don't want red pillers. By the sounds of the post about young pure women being disgusted by men who've had a lot of sex - young, pure women don't want red pillers either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 11:46 PM
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Most women don't get to sample the candy they want the most. Neither do most men. I understand what you're saying though. My post is just a reaction to the red pill rubbish that is constantly pushed at red pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 11:44 PM
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Nice, respectful conversation runs a shy/intelligent girl off even faster than an extrovert slut. So says you. Conversation like that impresses me the most and always has. I have an immediate blah reaction to anything that sounds like game and have been the same since I was a teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 11:41 PM
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For example, if one believes that sex is merely a fun, recreational activity, then they should be consistent in that viewpoint. If they get married and suddenly believe that sex is some kind of "sacred" and "holy" thing that should only be shared between married couples who love each other, then they've betrayed and/or radically altered their principles. Nah. Untrue. You go to college to learn, but you don't expect to be studying forever. You expect to leave and put what you learned into practic…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 11:37 PM
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You kidding me? Every ONS I've had I've done everything possible to give her the most intense orgasm possible. I want repeat performances. That is something most guys don't do? Fuck, TIL. I'm not experienced with ONSs. I'm going on what I've heard. But points to you for giving it your all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 11:35 PM
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You're free to do whatever the fuck you want, and we're free to look at you in disgust like a pig eating his own waste and say we want to have nothing to do with you and least of all commit our lives to you. Yes, you and men like you are free to do and feel those things. Don't believe me? Go ask a bunch of men how many of them would marry a prostitute. Go ask a bunch of women how many of them would marry a male prostitute (who has only had sex with women). And why are you talking about prostitut…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 11:34 PM
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But red pill men generally love sluts, they just say "don't LTR them." That's like RP 101. No one cares. I can't speak for all red pill guys but my impression is that most of them come to red pill with PLENTY of experience in providing provision and comfort, where they are lacking is providing excitement and demonstrating raw sexual value. Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 11:30 PM
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That tells me a lot about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 11:29 PM
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We were talking about "game". Game is something you do on purpose for a specific outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 11:29 PM
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You want to convince women to stay sexually pure? No? Just put them in a situation where they don't feel they have to put out to get the top percentile of men to give them the time of day, and voilá! Women generally don't 'put out'. They have sex because they like sex. Source: my vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:30 PM
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No, I am not. Yes, you are. The romantic guys I know from real-life keep their own n-count low. Nice. Why don't they make a forum on reddit? Nope, all we have are these red pill derps making manky assertions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:28 PM
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You can call the idea of the "wall" some made up thing to scare women, but it's real. I prefer to look at real data. Women who get married between the age of 28-32 are far more likely to have a lasting marriage than women of any other age. And college women these days travel and have sexual partners before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:26 PM
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hahahaha yep. Sums up the terps perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:24 PM
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Thank you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:23 PM
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Women on the other hand don't benefit by becoming extreme sexcapde sportswomen. They certainly can benefit. You're looking at it from the wrong angle. Lots of women travel and have fun/build a career in their 20s and are ready to settle down and start a family when they're 30. In fact, the marriages of such women are more likely to last.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:23 PM
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I think it is hilarious that they criticize the supposed "AFBB" when they want to bang hundreds of women in their 20s and 30s and then when they are in their 40s, they want to marry a virgin or very low N-count woman younger than 25 who will stay home and raise their kids while they flirt with other women in front of their wives. LOL. Yep. It's endlessly amusing. They just don't get it. The wall really ONLY applies to the type of women who really want a big family and to be a stay at home wife a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:20 PM
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No girl I've ever met actually likes a guy who has no game. You haven't met me. I hate smooth talkers. I hate any kind of fakery. I like a guy who is completely himself. I'm nerdy and prefer a guy who is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:17 PM
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red pill men looking for an LTR Which most are not. Most are proudly claiming to want to spin plates forever. Even if the merp forum, you have a lot of men who say that cheating is a perfectly acceptable way to run a marriage. the type of women who are wholeheartedly committed to raising a family A woman can galavant and then settle down and have a family. Or she can decide to have a family younger. Both options are valid. But the red pill insists that men should galavant. So why not women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:14 PM
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Where are the red pill men now??? (Apart from Sardonis70, who is not red pill, despite what he claims. One of us! One of us!) According to the red pill, these women should be busting out with desire and manwhore-love, yet they have deep concerns/disgust about the sexual pasts of their men which you can already see are going to affect their relationships with these men. What they need to do is either go find men of their own sexual experience (and despite what the red pill thinks, such men are HA…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:09 PM
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But no, women are only allowed to be turned on knowing a man has fucked lots of other women... lolz yes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:04 PM
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Gossip? That's for girls. The drama on MRP results from men's overall inability to handle women's hyperemotional responses and reactions to things. They have to learn how to handle that. Men gossip. Get over it. Men have emotional responses and reactions to things. Get over it. We're all human.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:02 PM
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Men don't like drama. Ha! Not all men. But some. Just like some, but not all, women. The terp field reports are filled with drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:00 PM
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Yes, exactly this. Makes me appreciate my very blue pill guy so much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 09:59 PM
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You have to be really, really hot to completely lack game and still get with a pretty girl. No. Pretty, shy/intelligent girls prefer a guy who lacks game.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 05:37 AM
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Appearance is a passive concept. It fits women perfectly. Sit back and let your appearance do the thing. Women would much rather spend an additional hour in the bathroom than actively pursuing, impressing and entertaining men. What the fack is passive about the hours spent going to hairdressers and beauty salons and clothing stores and the gym? Unfortunately, men are far more impressed by beauty than anything else. But you're trying to tell me a plain woman can get further with a man by working …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 02:47 AM
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Good point. I'll add to that : You can't save your own days, but you can invest them to pay out in the future as days spent by your children and their children, and so on. Days can be invested in in other ways, such as the things you create and build and invent - things to used and enjoyed by future generations (whether those generations are your children or future generations in general) As I said in a recent post, humans are driven to create. And we want our creations (children, inventions, ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 02:30 AM
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As I expected. The red pill are people who hit the wall and stayed there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 02:20 AM
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The validation and affirmation, the orgasm, the fun, the bragging rights? That's not worth anything? '' No. If he's very attractive/well-known etc - then he has lots of women to choose from and he's not going to even bother with an ugly woman. So, she doesn't get to brag that she bonked a famous footballer or whatever. And, who cares about her bragging anyway? No one. No one thinks anything good of a woman having a ONS. She almost certainly won't get an orgasm. Very hard to achieve with a ONS. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 02:16 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 02:12 AM
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The same cannot be said of all men Not all men hunted or went to war as her barefoot in the kitchens with babiez If you're going to mention war then you have to also mention said woman being killed or carried off if the men lost said war/battle. And you're completely failing to understand how dangerous pregnancy and childbirth is. Because you don't want to. Your red pill agenda is to paint history as dangerous for all men and safe for all women. The below is a figure from 2003 of African women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 02:03 AM
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If sex isn't agreed to before said date, then no, it's not fraud. If the man pays without coercion or threat whereby he feels in danger, then that's his choice. If sex isn't agreed to before said date, then no, it's not fraud. (End of statement) If the man pays without coercion or threat whereby he feels in danger, then that's his choice *(This is a new sentence and new statement. I am merely alluding to the fact that it's his choice to do so, which it wouldn't be if he were in danger. This stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 01:46 AM
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Tesla.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 01:43 AM
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It's about how men are always in more danger than women. And that is untrue if you look at history - all of history. Almost all fertile women had babies pretty constantly, and with every pregnancy they face death or permanent disability. The same cannot be said of all men of the same age range (15-40). Many men lived lives in relative comfort and security, never facing death or disability.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 01:43 AM
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hehe "stickitinthetoilet" came from my toddler's obsession with trying to throw things in the toilet, but it just seemed to suit PPD so well, so it became my name here ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 01:40 AM
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I wasn't aware the business of war, hunting, collecting shit, doing heavy physical world wasn't dangerous. lel lel lel. Yes but not ALL men did that stuff. Many men led safe lives. In contrast, all fertile women of the past who ever become pregnant faced death or permanent disability with every baby. Great. Now compare that to the many thousands of men who died during the expansion from Europe to the rest of the world. She is amazing! You're cherrypicking. I said most women were tied up were the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 01:37 AM
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You don't like him because he speaks truth about men, women, marriage, sex, parenthood, etc. Nah. I think he's damaged from being raised in a household with an abusive father and a submissive mother. The father could not control his emotions. And he's continuing the theme by choosing abusive women to shack up with who also can't control their abusive emotions. It's also evident in the way he raised his dog. If you have a pit bull, you have to realise you have a dangerous weapon that must undergo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 01:30 AM
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Fraud has nothing to do with threat or coercion. I didn't say it did. At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 05:44 AM
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Hold up No wonder you have poop in your bottom. The trick is you have to let it out once in a while. Or your posts end up getting constipated. do you have any evidence that it doesn't work? I didn't post the argument. OP brought the circus. Now he has to provide the monkeys. Or we're all going home.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 05:42 AM
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I have absolutely no idea what that is about. I've seen a bit of Mr Burr. Never again. He's unfunny and dimwitted - nothing there for me to bother with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 05:09 AM
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Maybe. My partner turned down offers so I don't think it's that rare. He was using a dating site when I met him (I met him in real life as i was not on any dating sites at the time) and we were just friends at first. He showed me his profile and messages/conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 05:06 AM
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It may be a sham, but if the kids don't know, and the wife doesn't know, as immoral and awful as the situation may be, it's less destructive overall than a divorce. "Success" isn't necessarily measured in happiness in my book, but in results. I don't know about that. I knew a guy who grew up with parents who didn't love each other. There was no love or real happiness in his home environment. Just resentment. He and his mother found out in later years about his father's cheating. My friend commit…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 05:03 AM
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You're the one who is making claims about the success rate, not me. So the burden falls on you to provide evidence to back up your claims. I made no claims. And you made the OP, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 03:05 AM
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Odd thing to say. It seems to me you'd have to "go out of your way" to get a high N. You definitely have to go out of your way to keep a low N. You have to turn down offers of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 03:04 AM
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It's worse because as long as a cheating husband doesn't get caught, the marriage can hum right along. If the woman is cheating, the marriage is already over. Lots of men have already checked out of the marriage by the time they start cheating. Lot of women cheat for attention, even though she still loves her husband. I don't necessarily agree that women only cheat when the marriage is over. Because some women are attention-freaks and will seek it any way they can get it. And if a man's cheating…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 03:02 AM
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Are you suggesting that nobody has ever gotten laid from cat-calling? What a silly thing to say. My view would be that the success rate would be so perilously low that any such strategy is worthless. But I'd rather go on evidence. Got any evidence of success rates? Remember that cat-calling is a different thing than talking to women in the street. A cat-call is a cat-call.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 02:30 AM
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You could not pay me enough to ever watch that hack again.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 01:35 AM
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a woman cheating IS WORSE for the success of a LTR/Marriage than a man cheating. Seems glaringly obvious. Nah. Because when the woman catches the man cheating, she might leave him/divorce him/stay and never forgive him/if she forgives him he might keep right on cheating and you can't call that a successful marriage - let alone the effect on the kids. Fantasise all you like though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 01:19 AM
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Yep. Men are magnificent and magnanimous in the eyes of the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 01:12 AM
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Most great men in history only accomplished the things they did for girls, either directly or indirectly. Remember that and do something great. I don't agree. I think we're driven to create and discover, particularly in cases of adversity (environmental, danger, food shortages etc) - and that is mostly what's behind our advancements. Women already partly fulfill this in producing human beings from their bodies and a lot of their time is taken up in the care of said humans (all women throughout h…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 01:06 AM
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To make this a valid CMV, first you need to provide evidence and real-world examples on catcalling being a valid sexual strategy. Otherwise this CMV is a pile of mushy pea soup and not worth debating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 12:51 AM
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Insisting 30 year olds recover from pregnancy better than 20 year olds is ridiculous I didn't insist this at all. I'm talking about the way that their bodies look and bounce back into shape. it goes against medical science. Then prove that my above point is wrong. You're the first person I've seen to hold this view. It's not just a view. I've shown you the evidence and what medical people are saying to support my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 12:36 AM
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But you seem to be comparing average men and women we talk about to a well-rounded, experienced, sophisticated, intelligent, empathic, self-confident ideal of a person that is anything but average. Nothing to disagree with here. All of us have blind spots, insecurities and weirdness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 11:03 PM
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If sex isn't agreed to before said date, then no, it's not fraud. If the man pays without coercion or threat whereby he feels in danger, then that's his choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 11:00 PM
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goes against medical science. You keep saying that. Stretch marks are more common in younger pregnant women .http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/283651.php Women who are younger when they fall pregnant, particularly teenagers, are more likely to develop stretch marks than those who fall pregnant older. http://parent.guide/pregnancy-stretch-marks/ This 16-year-old's body still looks like this 3 years after her pregnancy: http://starcasm.net/archives/234936 An 18 year old years after pregnanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 10:46 PM
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Sure, its perfectly OK that I have a "preference" for low N women, but I'm not satisfied with that. I want to know more about WHY that preference exists, and why I manifest it in particular. Fine to have that attitude if you have gone out of your way to keep a low n count too. I don't want a man with a high n count either - but probably only because mine is low and I'm more comfortable with someone like me. If someone goes out of their way to get a high n count but wants to marry someone with a …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 09:52 PM
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Yep, exactly this. /u/GuitarsAreGettingOld is being willfully ignorant. He is also fully aware that the red pill imagine that a high n count is fine and good for men but not for women. He's trying to pretend that men wanting to run around and fuck whoever for years and then wanting a sweet innocent girl to settle down with is just sweet romance. cue laughter
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 09:39 PM
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Well, if you put the dominance stuff in a fun way, then it won't seem of feel dominant, and actually won't be dominant. So yeah. If my guy said 'come here woman and kiss me' in a joking way, I'd just think it was funny and I'd go kiss him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 09:06 PM
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How do you explain the West (the most successful societies), then? Because their women married much later than in other cultures of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 09:03 PM
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Depends on what she wants. If she wants a relationship, she won't be attracted to the guy who wants sex straight up - unless he also gives clear signals that he's relationship-minded and wants to see her again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 09:03 PM
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We're not talking about pregnancy complications here - those do rise with age. We're talking about the ability of a body to get back into the same shape it was before pregnancy. More pregnant 20 somethings will be in shape after pregnancy because they were in better shape than the 30 somethings. A fit 30 something is likely to get back into the same shape after pregnancy. I'm saying that very young women - 16-20 might experience a very changed body after pregnancy, due to their softer skin. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 09:00 PM
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Exactly yes to 1, 2, 3 and 4. No to your theory of the flaw. Most women aren't going to respond to guys who do make a move if the guy they want more is slow to make a move. They'll wait for the guy they want and start making it obvious they want him. (Unless he acts totally disinterested at every step) As far as I'm concerned, the guy who makes a move soon after meeting me is not special and doesn't see himself as special. It makes me instantly lose interest. But I am not all women. Women lookin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 11:40 PM
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Because the Duluth Model works so well right? I didn't make any comment on that. My argument was that feminists make arguments - which the post I was replying to said didn't happen. As far as the Duluth model is concerned, I'd see any intervention needing full participation from people who commit DV, and find out what is really behind it. Potentially? There's a freaking feminist anti-rape campaign that literally labels men as rapists and shames them to white knight for women. Heck I don't think …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 09:56 PM
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In some ways, but generally because women in their 20s are more likely to be fit than women in their 30s. There is no reason for a fit woman of 30 to look any different after her first pregnancy, unless her skin doesn't deal well with stretching, and that is all in genetics. But stretching of skin can cause more things than just stretch marks. It can cause drooping - of breasts and stomach and can cause flabby thighs. Very young skin is more likely to stretch and develop stretch marks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 08:58 PM
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Perhaps you do feel disrespected but if the right guy did it in the right way you would still find it attractive. He would have to do it in such a way that the thing you're talking about is unrecognisable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 08:49 PM
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Awww you gotta concede me points now and again, or I get sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 08:48 PM
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Somehow I don't think Aristotle was full of shit. No, but some of his theories were shit. but which modern feminism has suppressed in a foolish and misguided belief that men and women are exactly the same except for their reproductive tracts. Only a small percentage of feminists believe exactly that. As for your personal experiences... OK, whatever Yes, yes of course. Only poor misunderstood, misaligned terpers may speak of their past experiences. Everyone else must shut up. Why do I bother even…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 08:47 PM
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I that were so, Mr Cross, and if that was all the red pill was about, then the red pill wouldn't have all those extra layers of "information" that reflect the same things as Aristotle's writings. There is nothing new at the red pill. Just the same old garbage women have been dealing with for centuries. You guys growing up gained differing views about women and what women liked in men - just the same as women growing up gained differing views of about men and what men liked. You guys happened to …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 07:32 PM
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You're out of your comfort zone with this one, guitar. Tons of women who are first-time mothers don't have many (or sometimes any) friends. Because they've lost their social circles or moved away due to their husband's work. Loneliness is a very real thing. This is a very, very common story: https://www.romper.com/p/honestly-being-a-new-mom-is-so-lonely-12125 These women don't do "all their venting in real-life". They don't have any orbiters. Yes, in parenting groups online, they might talk abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 06:36 AM
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I don't see many mothers going online and vulgarly expressing that women should "pump and dump" all men, that women should pull dread games on their spouses to keep power, and that men are useless beyond a certain age. Mommy forums all center around how to raise their children properly and don't focus on tearing down men You've got that exactly right. Even the ones going through domestic violence and who are preparing to leave their husbands aren't on there ripping apart men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 02:40 AM
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Kaaaarrrrmmmmma...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 02:17 AM
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I can't think of people as low-value. Who am I to assess someone else's value? And it seems to me that a lot of braggardly confident guys are at trp, and they don't come across as insecure. I'm afraid this post reminds me of the type of red pill post that paints whole groups of women in the worst possible light. Such as the one that called all single mothers scum of the earth. And a thousand others. Come to think of it, due to terpers accepting posts like that by red pill leaders over at the red…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 02:16 AM
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I don't agree with all of your points. Some of the ideas are arguments. About how to reduce domestic violence etc. Lots of women call men small-dicked or ball-less or man-baby or date-less etc. I'd say feminists are less likely to do this. Feminists are going hard on the rape and DV thing - which are good things to go hard on, but some initiatives have the potential to shame men in general. And I think we need to do more to ensure this doesn't happen. We can't scoop up everyone in the same net.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 02:07 AM
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I immediately pictured something to do with breeding animals...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 02:03 AM
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If women really cared that much about the effect of pregnancy on their bodies they'd have children sooner because their bodies bounce back more easily. I'm not sure I agree with this. The worst stretching of breasts and developing of deep purple stretch marks I've seen have been in very young women, aged 16-20. Teenage girls can get stretch marks just from putting on weight. Young women have softer skin than older women. I had my babies older and have no stretch marks and everything bounced back…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 12:56 AM
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Hate against women exists. TRP gathers it up, feeds it into the terp machine and spits it out as red pills for men to swallow. Behind the hate, I think, is a complete misunderstanding of women and desire for dominance over them. And that misunderstanding and dominance has been around ever since men began seeing women as property - soon after the time that humans first started planting crops. We hear that misunderstanding and sense of dominance in the writings of philosophers of ancient times (wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 12:39 AM
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My partner works with engineers, programmers and consultants. Lots and lots of socially inept men who do and say very strange things. To the point where he cannot believe some of them actually get to stay in their job. A number of them even spend a lot of each day playing games on their PCs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 12:07 AM
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What is "husbandry"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 12:01 AM
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That's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 11:51 PM
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Ugh to shrines...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 11:51 PM
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But feminist do promote shaming men all the time. I think certain groups of women are not careful enough with how they present their arguments, feminist or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 11:51 PM
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It's still social. It's still a form of media in the public eye in which people interact in a social way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 11:49 PM
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Then men are owned too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 11:47 PM
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The problem is, we're all attracted to certain types, and certain types are attracted to us. If we make the mistake of thinking all men or all women are similar to our own experience of them, we come unstuck. I feel disrespected if a man tries to dominate me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 11:47 PM
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In my dabbling in the dom/spanking/BDSM world, And there you have it. Women who are interested in the dom/BDSM world are not all women but a small percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 11:44 PM
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It's good game to still treat women like property though, because being property is what they all crave. Like during sexy times grab them between the legs and tell them that you own this, that it belongs to you, and boss them around. You have a very submissive girlfriend. Most women are not like that. If it was a one-off joke, it might be seen as ok, but if you were serious and if you seriously bossed most women around, they'd boot you out on your ear.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 05:57 AM
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Nothing wrong with owning a girl Only everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 05:55 AM
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It's not feminism at all. Not sure why she even mentioned it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 05:50 AM
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"Anything that I don't like isn't real feminism." Where in feminism does it say that women must publicly shame their husbands on social media?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 05:50 AM
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Erased every social media account I had several years ago. Except this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 02:36 AM
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These sorts of posts might feel like a victory of sort to feminists. Women, refusing to back down, are demanding appropriate treatment and behavior from their spouses. For most of human history women have been subservient in marriages (and in every other role), but not today! The unmitigated HORROR that women aren't subservient today! Heavens above! And was feminism REALLY behind all the husband-shaming stuff? Such as the 'Mere Male' page at Reader's Digest - where housewives sent in anecdotes o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 02:36 AM
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TRP is all about 'winning' women's bodies any way they can. That might stunt their emotional growth. Do you have any concerns about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 02:14 AM
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Could you make this a discussion instead of a CMV? Because I'd basically agree with you (if such a mindset didn't lead to trp men becoming more bitter/jaded. It could be a healthy mindset for both men and women to adopt)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 01:41 AM
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So... if you were chubby and geeky-looking and then all of sudden you lost weight and improved your look/outlook - and then you started dating cheerleaders - would there be a problem? Would you see it as a terrible problem? I think it's maybe you who has the problem dealing with the guys she bringing around. Its your house - don't let them push you around. So, you think your sister is dull, humorless and has no personality? Maybe you should go out more often and do stuff, so you're not at home t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 01:35 AM
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And I'd argue many men are attracted to intelligent women. So no, I don't hide it. A case in point. This man went on a blind date. This is a very attractive, friendly young woman but he very obviously finds her lacking in intelligence and is instantly turned off. He takes a dim view of someone who believes in tarot cards and TV evangelists. I'm the same. I couldn't be with a guy who was into those things, as I'd see him as lacking in IQ. Vanessa was polite, kind and friendly. She also drinks whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 12:53 AM
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Having an affair is different from abandoning your wife to go live with another woman. I see it as abandoning her in all intimate ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 12:44 AM
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Yes, finally, someone who knows history.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 12:38 AM
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Men are not abandoning their wives for younger women. 1. For the reasons I have already explained; 2. Because they're not attractive enough to catch a young woman. If we return to an age before the suffragettes and before feminism - with patriarchy ruling supreme - we would indeed return to a system where men go back to having a wife and mistresses.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 12:36 AM
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History tells us otherwise. Men would keep the wife, yes, but not in any real way. After her youth was gone, he'd keep her to have babies and look after children- but his passion would be for young mistresses. Most men who could afford it would have one or several. Essentially, his wife was 'dropped'. He could still be fond of her and have sex with her, but any real relationship was gone. His relationship with his wife was little more than a sham, and she had to put up with it or else go out on …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 12:30 AM
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Does anyone actually have relationship experience with the actual "Unexciting, but nice." kind? If so, was it birds of a feather, or more opposites attract? My guy is type #5. "Low in romantic chemistry"? lol sometimes we just lie on the bed together, smiling at each other, and can't look away (sickening but true). Sex is passionate. We both think we want each other more now than when we met - six years ago. I'd say we're birds of a feather. We're both quiet, creative, artistic, considerate and …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 11:54 PM
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I saw a reeeaaaalllly long post about this on reddit once. Most of the commenters were men and most did not care if she was hairless or not, but if she had it they liked it trimmed. I have never had a guy ask me to go hairless, nor would I do it. If a guy was that demanding, I'd boot him on principle.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 11:43 PM
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The beauty and diet industry says you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 02:03 AM
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Yep, that's about right. Terps seem to think that a woman agrees to have sex with a man, she must be responding to his inner jerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 02:01 AM
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Define "jerk". How can you have a reasonable discussion unless is defined? Does he spray piss everywhere in the bathroom except in the toilet? Does he throw his dirty jocks out the window at the neighbours? Does he yell at random kiddies in the street? What does he do?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 12:53 AM
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Low-ranking and high-ranking
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 12:49 AM
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Batman and Robin
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 09:52 PM
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The BPs who know what fracking link you're talking about, yes. This is the reaction of most people, whether they replied or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 05:31 AM
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Things that are uniquely masculine A penis? Testicles? Ball hair? 'Cos the other things you mentioned are not uniquely masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 04:29 AM
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I wouldn't mind it but we need better titles than captain and first mate. Hokey Slavemaster and slave?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 04:27 AM
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I'd see the vast majority of the red pill, including mrp, not having respect for their wives, not having maturity, not having a sense of the bigger picture and he gets hung up on the bullshit of having control over the relationship. It's hard to explain what it's like reading married red pill. Red pill men seem to have some kind of disconnect in their brains. They don't seem to be able to relate to their wives or see them as people. The way that married red pill talks about their wives makes me …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 04:25 AM
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okayyyyy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 03:43 AM
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Again, the post isn't that complicated. Everyone else in the thread seems to understand it. They're just picking up the "bp" are bad bit and commenting on it (if they're red). It's a very confused post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 03:42 AM
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Women don't want and have never really wanted commitment from men Actually, yes, they do. Very much so.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 03:08 AM
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What? No, we attribute the decline of western birth rates to the influence of feminism first and most, because it was feminism that indoctrinated women into valuing career over procreation No. Definitely no. The suffragette-style thing quietened right down during the war years, as it wasn't the right time for it. It was the huge numbers of women who went into the workforce to fill up the empty positions that changed everything. Most did not want to leave their job after WW2 - but they did, becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 03:02 AM
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It's just a way of saying red pill > blue pill because blue pill are hypocrites Drok007 is saying the blue pill are hypocrites? Then he should have said so. can't be bothered even trying to work out what his OP is trying to state. And he's wrong. BP are hardly hypocrites. If they were, they'd hate men and put shit on them. They're a social commentary/satire group that focuses on the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 02:47 AM
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Then I have no idea what this is about. No loss I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 02:44 AM
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What in the beejezus is this post actually about??? I'm bamoozled. Where are the links?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 10:25 AM
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Then they should call it a men's safe space rather than MGTOW. Because they're going to continue to get comments about the irony of what they actually talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 02:23 AM
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I once had someone tell me he was going to hang me up by my intestines and then rape me with own dick. But he wasn't saying he was going to actually rape you himself. Men will threaten virtual rape in this context to women (because they don't want them there playing) or occasionally to men (to say he's a pussy woman). And I just don't see comments like you're taking about here when my guy friends/partner is playing. But I will tend to get very sexist comments. I can understand why coming into a …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 02:21 AM
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Can testify to this. Men try to lock you down quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 12:29 AM
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Most people want relationships. Even the hotties. Silly, but true.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 12:28 AM
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I find that hard to believe due to past experience but that's what bloopers keep saying It's our experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 12:26 AM
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If you made a doco on that life, I'd watch it :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 12:25 AM
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Even hot guys aren't necessarily that picky when they want to have casual sex. They're as picky as their options. Same as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 12:17 AM
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Yes he'll most likely deny it. But if you do nothing, he'll likely keep doing it. If a guy kept calling another guy faggot as he walked past, that creates a situation where the first guy is likely to snap one day and punch the name-caller in the face. Better to de-escalate if you can before that happens. And doesn't make it any better to ignore it just because it's a man calling a woman names (thinking that the woman won't retaliate) because it results in poor staff morale and maybe even losing …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 10:48 PM
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Shrugs. Those women are psychologists, teachers, and in management. One is an engineer. You can have fries with your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 10:00 PM
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How is this relevant to what I said? Because the red pill, including MGTOW, is all about ranting about how women won't give all men as much sex as they want. I have no probs with Tesla not pursuing women but he's not a MGTOW if he didn't want sex with them/didn't pursue them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 09:58 PM
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My go to example of MGTOW is Nikolas Tesla. He could have had women plenty, but was celibate to focus on his work. Okay, now link me to Tesla's rants about how women should give him sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 08:13 PM
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When I see these couples together, you wanna bet there's attraction. We have big bbqs and get togethers all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 08:12 PM
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lol perfect beta providers, basically. The women are providers, too. Some earn as much or more than their husbands/partners. Did you notice the fact that the women are college educated?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 08:10 PM
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I wouldn't see him calling me a bitch as bullying. He sounds like someone who's feeling powerless. But if I gave him a chance to explain his problem and he didn't take it, what am I supposed to do? If he thinks I've been a bitch, he should own it and tell me why.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 08:08 PM
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Talking about women means a man's not MGTOW? Bad logic. You're right. "Men Going their own way" means squat.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 08:04 PM
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Keep up the good work. As you were.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 12:56 PM
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Turn straight around and say, "You just called me a bitch. Why?" He's 90% likely to claim he didn't say it. Shrug and walk away. At least you tried. If he does it again on another day, go to step 2. Bring a trusted colleague/supervisor with you and ask him to explain himself. Tell him you want to solve the issue. If he still refuses to cough up an explanation, let the supervisor handle it. You shouldn't have to deal with someone calling you a bitch at work who is unwilling to address the problem…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 12:53 PM
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Remove yourself for a moment from your own situation and envision the type of girls you were growing up with. Are they good marriage material? Are they high risk-partners? Would they make a good match for a low-risk, stable guy? Some were, some weren't. Some made good choices, some didn't. Some seemed like they'd made a good choice, but the stable guy turned out to be anything but. The stand out is "good parenting". The ones with stable parents, whose families ate together and did things togethe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 12:29 PM
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Manosphere guys will claim those were bottom-choice women... Yes, true. Wish I could upload pics of these couples. That would make too much sense for the Manosphere crew. They either don't know what they want or have a very myopic attraction to women - something very specific and looks-oriented. They want to convince each other that a woman's worth is entirely based on her looks, because they feel so fragile themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 12:26 PM
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man-hating leftie feminist You got two out of three right. Congrats! you want to silence anyone who dares to paint women in anything but a good light. I don't want to silence MGTOW. They're good entertainment. And you're looking for motivations that aren't there, because you cant defend how people who claim to have left women behind really can't stop thinking about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 12:23 PM
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I know because I've read it many times. They talk crap about women. They're red, after all. All that's red is built on bitterness, and none of them can break free of that, not even those who are supposed to - MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 12:19 PM
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You dont get to decide what would or would not be 'good' for the 'movement'. GTFO with your irrelevant opinion I used the word good as a euphemism for "make logical sense". A movement that says it wants nothing to do with X and then cant stop thinking and talking about X, has a deep problem. No, it's not for me to judge. I don't care. But I can say that my opinion is that it doesn't make any sense. This is a discussion forum, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 12:17 PM
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Neither does society stop whining about straight white men. Your point? My point? Their whole mantra is men going their own way. If they keep talking about women, then they never did.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 05:52 AM
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Those studies are changing tho. Sooo... cough 'em up. Or shaddup.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 05:13 AM
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I agree with this. The idea of MGTOW is not misogynistic. The reality of MGTOW is a different thing. They don't stop talking about women and putting them down.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 05:09 AM
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I think the above is good. If only MGTOW did not spend so much time talking about women and putting them down. I don't mean that in a snarky way. The movement would be good if the focus really was on men and their non-woman pursuits.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 05:06 AM
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Wow and 35 is not young to become a parent. You'd think someone of that age would be more than ready. But some don't manage to grow up. Oh yes, the old 'picking fights so they've got an excuse to go out and stay out' trick. Women get blindsided and start blaming themselves for his behaviour. I saw some of my friends go through this with their fathers. Really sorry you went through that with your dad. I hope he's different now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 04:39 AM
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It's pretty clear you hate us Again, you're projecting. That's not me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 04:33 AM
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Looks are plenty enough for attraction for women in regard to sex. You do not need to be anything else, except be pleasant. In regard to a relationship, different women want very different things. Most women are not after tennis players. As I mentioned in another post today, I have a lot of friends who are married to blue collar workers (builders, bricklayers, electricians). The women are almost all college/uni educated. These are great guys and solid family men (the couples who have kids). I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 02:45 AM
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You now where it is really linked from? Places like MRP. If you read beyond the outrage porn, you couldn't miss it (at least, not intentionally). I got banned from merp land on my second post there. So I don't go there anymore. So RPW hates women, too, they just don't do outrage? In a way, yes. They do hate their own gender. But they focus on trying to fix their 'flaws'. Sad. RP are nothing like RPW. They don't spend all their time putting down the "worst" of their own gender and trying to fix p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 12:39 AM
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If you don't include the premise that most women are bitches, cunts, whores, slags, cum-buckets, alpha-whores and total scum... then yes, it looks like prejudice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 12:02 AM
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What's your source, evidence and factual bases for your apparent claims that blue pillers say that: just because "most men" are in "relationships" and that most men get sex, therefore, these men are happy, successful in their relationships, and (EDIT) are getting most of what they want? (End edit) Why do you believe this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 12:00 AM
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Would betas behave like alphas if they could? Yes! Also, not all 'alphas' sleep around. I know that I wouldn't but I know that I can only speak for myself. And I don't know if this (not wanting to sleep around) is only because I have been living in beta land for so long. You're unusual for a single rper is that is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 11:59 PM
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Guys who start at the boobs are still in a regressed stage of maturity I said "if" a woman is naked. I'm right and you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 11:55 PM
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You don't get to decide what I deserve. Your rudeness is uncalled for. Not being rude. And i do get to decide how to answer you. so how do we "do our best to ensure children have the best childhoods possible"? My answer would be an essay, so I won't go into this one. All your posts here drip with hatred and contempt for TRP men. You clearly cannot stand us. You clearly despise and loathe us. You come at us with snark, ridicule, contempt and disrespect. You clearly look at us as subhuman scum. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 11:54 PM
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Doesn't matter. Men who can get the party girls apply PG/WM. Which means that men are essentially the same as women in this - gasp! The average guy would apply PG/WM if he could. Which again means that men are essentially like women in this. Your outrage-o-meter went off like a light, didn't it? I'm not suggesting what most men can or can't get. As I said to Guitar: Doesn't matter. Men who can get the party girls apply PG/WM. Which means that men are essentially the same as women in this - gasp!…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 11:48 PM
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No. His being her BB means she disapproves of him for sex, but is perfectly OK to strip mine him for resources. He doesn't disapprove of anything, and even if he did, she wouldn't care. It's not like she is fucking him or anything. In red pill outrage land. You and your snark. Always accusing those who disagree with you of stupidity, ignorance or low intelligence. You're projecting. Yeah, no. They might be alone; but they will understand the reasons for it, and not tether themselves to a Blue Pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 11:46 PM
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outrage porn junkie Describes most of the red pill. I don't know MMSL as it's never linked from here that I have seen. RPW can't be outrage junkies because they are not focused on the gender RP hates (women).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 11:41 PM
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Right back atcha. Your experience is no more valid than mine is. I hit that back with a baseball bat. Doesn't apply. That bit didn't come from a personal experience. You stated it like a universal truth that everyone knows and accepts. That's why I asked for citations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 11:38 PM
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Doesn't matter. Men who can get the party girls apply PG/WM. Which means that men are essentially the same as women in this - gasp! The average guy would apply PG/WM if he could. Which again means that men are essentially like women in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 11:34 PM
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I agree with the red pill in making men aware of what could happen. I don't disagree that men should take the trp path, if they wish to. Better Beta - I like it. But I'm saying that if they blindly follow, and do not marry and start a family with girls that seemed like great girls (because they believed all women were out to divorce rape them) they might end up unhappy at age 40, when the red pill promised land doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 11:29 PM
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My mom fell into category C. And she was married to my father. :( I've unfortunately seen quite a lot of this. I don't know what the story is with your father, but what I have seen is that either he wants to live the single life alongside the married life or he has some undiagnosed mental instability and cannot cope with the routines, responsibilities and pressures of family life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 11:24 PM
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The way TRP uses the term 'beta bux' is an ego defensive mechanism when comparing themselves to normies that are in LTRs That's an interesting concept - haven't thought of it from that angle before - thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 11:21 PM
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If you think women are happy with their betas when they're in their mid-30s and have 2 children, you're very mistaken. It might be anecdata but that's what I see, yes. I see women (and men) getting their greatest fulfillment out of raising a family and spending time with them and friends. They wouldn't want to do anything to damage that because it's too good. No 'alpha' can get a look in. What does he have to offer? A dick. That's all. Nothing in comparison. The real problem with being a BB is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 11:19 PM
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I'm thinking you must have grown up in a sheltered environment. I'm not saying this in a snarky way. I've said before many times on here that I grew up in a low socioeconomic environment. Men hit women, drank, did drugs, hit their kids. Women drank, did drugs, hit their kids. It's hard for women who grow up in such an environment to understand that kind of guys she should be aiming for, to understand the warning signs that a man is going to become violent in later months/years or to understand t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 11:13 PM
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It's not a revenge fantasy. Remember that the BBs are men that the red pill say are easy to get. Whereas the red pill says the ABs are very hard to get. If I wanted to have a revenge fantasy, wouldn't I instead be concentrating on the men that women supposedly want the most but cannot get? Why the hell would I want a whole stack of men to feel disappointed with their lives when they reach 35+? This is what I said to Pembayliss Lewis Cross.Maybe it will help you understand my point better: If you…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 11:05 PM
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The point is all academic now. In the past, when women commonly married as virgins, I'd say they were just as likely. Now, it's not common enough to bother making a point over, because those women are either religious or have very strong beliefs in the sanctity of sexual relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 10:59 PM
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Women on the other hand, go from being the hottest things on the market in their teens to early 20s, to looking for beta bucks after being used up and left screwed up by dark triad psychopaths. That comment alone tells me all the rest of what you said is fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 10:55 PM
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I don't think all men say that No, this was specifically aimed at the red pill guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 10:53 PM
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Same thing. They disapprove of her past. You really hate these guys, don't you? You really want to see them suffer, don't you? No and no. If you understood my post, you'd see I'm saying that the men who blindly follow the red pill promises might find themselves high and dry when they're 35+ and become prime candidates for suicide. That worries me. The red pill has some good stuff, which is mostly the mainstream stuff and the fact that men have got together to talk and support each other is the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 10:52 PM
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AFBB isn't a "plan", it's a subconscious sexual strategy. It's not something women plan out like a business strategy with charts, diagrams and studies. It's instinctive. Its what men do too. They do the PG/WM - getting to an age where they swap the Party Girls for the Wife Material. Should the Wife Material women be upset that he only wanted Party Girls before her? He wanted girls who would go home with him the first night he met them, take drugs with him, have threesomes with him. He ignored an…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 10:47 PM
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What's your plan to help these men? I know you meant this is your typically snarky way and you don't deserve a proper answer. But here it is anyway. This is too personal for me to comment in depth here. I've know three people who committed suicide, Two male and one female.The female had a severe mental illness. I'm still trying to unpack the male suicides, as they both had what many men would think is ideal, and they both had partners who adored them, though one had been unsuccessfully looking f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 10:40 PM
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in every sense of the word where an actual relationship exists between husband and wife, in many ways they are even LESS stable and solid. Links to solid data and research please, otherwise your words are mud. I know many "married" couples like this - both educated professionals; or he is blue collar and she is professional. Know what happens? They all have serious problems, they're all unhappy; and most are cheating on their spouses. Some are in very discreet open marriages. In the man/blue col…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 10:21 PM
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Thanks for vagsplaining what men are like to me. Next time I have a thought I'll make sure I check in with you first. It's human to look at faces. If a man or woman was naked, we'd all look at the woman's boobs first (as this was the first thing most of us ever saw when we arrived in the world, and it was of intense interest) and we'd look at the man's penis (because it's something 'rude' we never see).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 10:15 PM
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Exactly no one cared because it's not a huge deal. Almost everyone commenting who is blue pill says can be a big deal to not know where your partner is going. Who is the "exactly no one"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 10:13 PM
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The red pill is 90% outrage. TRP, the red pill blogs, Married Red Pill, MGTOW... I'm not familiar with MMSL. It might be red pill lite.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 10:09 PM
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Actually that's around the age that women's hunt for beta bucks intensifies. So if a guy has a 401k, house, car, decent job, and is into middle-aged ladies who have had their fun, then late 30s and 40s should be a fantastic time for him. i thought the whole purpose of trp was to teach men middle-aged women were worthless (unless married to you from the time they were young and innocent). Oh well, sucks to be a BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 06:23 AM
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nods
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 04:22 AM
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Hard to measure something that keeps improving & changing depending on a number of factors, too. IQ depends on a lot of things. But our IQ, overall, is scoring higher with each generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 04:10 AM
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Ah okies. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 04:08 AM
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So you don't find me sexy? No idea. Don't know you. Are you too sexy for your red pill shirt, stone pimple? Well, I I look forward to giving you a baby at 40 then. Can't wait for you to want to settle down and give me your 'best'. I I know I've been building a good brand for 20 years, and why not share half? I wasn't saying that when women can experience much longer years of fertility, they will choose to have babies at age 40 and older. I said there will be more time in which to find a husband …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 04:06 AM
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There are different IQ tests. And people who have not grown up in a specific culture will find certain questions hard to answer. The test you mentioned is different, and women scored higher in it. But it wouldn't be factual to make assumptions based on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 03:55 AM
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Your "sexist version" isn't a fact it is an opinion. ?? I wasn't giving a fact in the sexist versions. Opinions that are based on facts are often treated like facts. That is what I was trying to display. Some people will claim that their opinion is logical or fact-based because it is based on facts and data. But facts and data can be manipulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 03:51 AM
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Saying that women have lower IQs on average isn't sexist Well, it wouldn't be a fact if you said men scored higher than women on IQ tests, because they score about the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 03:48 AM
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^ This. facts can't be sexist. The use of facts can be sexist or racist etc depending on the context and how the information surrounding the facts are skewed. Examples: Fact: Men hit tennis balls harder than women. Sexist version: Women should not play tennis, because they are not as good as men. Fact: More women than men are teachers in the lower grades. Sexist version: Women are better at teaching. (Not sure if your prostitute example is sexist. Could be a horrible thing to do to someone, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 03:18 AM
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IQ questions can be extremely biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 03:15 AM
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Except for all the useful stuff. This just shows that you read it fundamentally different than I do. Yep so 'fundie' that the red pill is ashamed to let people in general know who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 02:01 AM
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That are your assumptions. Not assumptions. That mentality is rife in the red pill. Take it away and there is almost nothing left.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 01:46 AM
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less likely to happen and atleast when you provided for that woman she waited for you to have sex and enter marriage with out baggage and not trying to get you to pay for 30 or more different Chad's leftovers that they got without footing the bill love and support you did by marrying a woman. I married as a virgin and I left him a couple of years after. Too young and dumb to know better than to get married too young.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 01:45 AM
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Irrespective of mothers' and society's efforts at demonizing the red pill, young men will just be faced with an increasing number of guys getting laid because they've all read some "rational male" book and their curiosity will have the best of them. Along with that, more women will hear about the red pill and what they do and believe, until it reaches critical mass. From that point, there can be no more game.
/r/TheRedPill21/11/16 01:39 AM
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Also know this about men. We are not women. When we look at a woman we do not start at the face and then look down. We start at your hips and look up. Also gluttony is a sin and it will ruin your life. Definitely get the lap band. Also, know this about men. All men are not you. Men look at the face first, in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 01:24 AM
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meaning you wasted your "good" years instead of using them to lock down a good guy. Not a waste. It's called gaining life experience, having fun and being free. Why is the red pill soooo stuck on Chad? Why should a woman 'lock down' a man when she's not ready to be locked down herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 01:21 AM
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No one would tolerate the red pill who didn't have a deep grudge against women. No one who didn't enjoy the thought of women suffering would tolerate the stuff about women (revenge fantasy stuff) at the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 01:13 AM
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Older men can just pay for pussy straight cash if they want. Yes they can. They might also find their lives dull and unfulfilling. I watched a doco on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 01:11 AM
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Male suicide rates at those ages are already skyrocketing Sad, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 01:10 AM
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Marriage was designed for men to marry and support virgin women Unfortunately, a virgin wife can just as easily cheat (to find out what she missed) divorce you (when she figures out that marriage to you isn't very good) refuse to have sex with you etc. The usual reason a woman marries as a virgin are religious - so if she's not strictly religious, she'll find you as easy to leave as a casual boyfriend. Or women with low body counts. Now these women with 10 plus body counts come with so much bagg…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 01:10 AM
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*you're Add a grammar book to your pile, maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 01:04 AM
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TRP hasn't even been around for a decade, that's a strong assumption. It's a plan for life. It's not an assumption of mine. I don't get what is so wrong about being a Beta Bux, like no shit, women who wanna get married will marry a man with "resources". Only the red pill can answer that one. I don't know why a bunch of men who couldn't get laid for the majority of their pre-pubescent life seem to know an entire women's life plan. It's laughable. Yeah, it's damned weird how they think women plan …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 11:44 PM
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I agree that the red pill men will be bad bets in years to come. Ok, so now we have: Beta Bux Bitter Betas Bad Bets Beta Sux Will the real BB please stand up?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 11:41 PM
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An average man cannot have casual sex with a beautiful, well above average woman. I have never seen this happen, nor read any articles and studies that indicate this occurs. Doesn't matter. Just about any hetero man will choose the best looking woman he can who will agree to have sex with him. And ill flip this question back, why did the men in this slide show not go for a girl that was really attractive? I mean you say men are hypergamous but look at these top notch men going for an average loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 11:38 PM
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So you think that I care? Yes. I think every man at the red pill wants women to suffer, at some level.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 11:35 PM
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Why procreate when they're obviously not in the right place for it? This cries "low FTO" and actually speaks against her. Did you gloss over my "young and dumb" bit? What is FTO? This also speaks against her from a datability-perspective. The question posed to me was "Why procreate with men who are no good?". A woman who is messed-up in the head from childhood abuse may not have the self-respect to choose a better man. I am willing to bet dollars to donuts that (C) is rare and in the case of (E)…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 11:34 PM
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Do you really think I care about some girl suffering? Yes. The red pill is built upon the desire for women to suffer. It's all through the posts and the stupid blatherings about "the wall", single mothers and women in general. Little of it is true, but it doesn't stop the red pill from jerking off over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 10:24 PM
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If the avg. young good looking childless woman had a choice between a nice socially awkward virgin and a philandering smooth talking vaginal-tingle-inspiring dark triad player with 13 abandoned kids from other women, they will choose the player 150% of the time. If that were remotely true (about the dark triad), all women would be single mothers, the crime rate would be through the roof (instead of going down over the decades) and no woman would marry (because her dark triad wouldn't marry). The…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 09:14 PM
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Why procreate with men who are no good? A. Because the women are as young and dumb as the men B. Because her contraception failed and she can't (in her own conscience) go ahead with abortion C. Because he seemed an amazing, stable person, but the pressure of living with a woman and child made the crazy, unseen side of him break loose. And now she has no choice but to break up with him. D. Because she has deep emotional issues (sexually/physically abused as a child etc) and doesn't have the usual…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 09:10 PM
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True, a heavy burden indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 09:03 PM
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Given what that woman looks like though, and the immaculate bodies of the athletes she hooked up with, don't you see where the concept of hypergamy comes from? This woman is very average looking. And men don't try to hook up with the most beautiful women they can? And if a man is able to hook up with beautiful women... does he or instead does he choose homely girls with good personalities? If your answer is that he'd choose beautiful girls, then men are also hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 09:01 PM
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Amoral women will still let their feelings guide their morality, whereas amoral men will follow their logic or feelings as they so desire, but the result will look mostly the same as you described, essentially an ego centric sense of judgement. hahahahaha such fun watching a red piller twist himself into a pretzel trying to ascribe the exact same thing as logic in a man and feelz in a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 01:36 PM
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The TL;DR is female morality is usually based more on feelz and male morality is more based on realz, if I wanted to phrase it cheekily. You've posted information you're unable to accurately interpret, in other words. There can be no 'realz' in this debate. The red pill are jumping up and down with excitement. Look! Brainzzzzzzzzzz! Men and women different. They're zombie-ing out to the mere suggestion of something they hear every day in the red pill. There is nothing new here. We've seen this s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 01:28 PM
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Quoting yourself. I'm embarrassed for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 01:16 PM
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Can picture red pill dudes clutching their pearls, going red in the face and crying AWWWWAAAAALLLLTTTT!!!!!!!! The red pill sez: women don't chase men for sex. Women are passive. (Yet, she pursued men for sex and got the ones she wanted) women can't separate feelz and sex. Women don't go after men for sex like men go after women. (Yet, she had no feelz in her sexual escapades) risky sex is what a man gives a woman. Women don't make suggestions. They're passive, remember? (Yet, she wanted sex in …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 01:03 PM
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The bitterness is strong in this one. Most single mothers wouldn't be single if their boyfriends had been any good. I give these mothers my axe and my sword for the crappy attitudes they have to deal with. Fix crappy men, and the problem will disappear (and by 'fix crappy men' I mean vasectomy, because they just shouldn't breed). I have no respect for a father who moves away from his kids, doesn't see them as much as he could, places chasing sex at a high priority than his kids and basically doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 12:41 PM
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Stop that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 12:33 PM
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The Stepford Wives must be like porn to some of them. Hardcore.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 08:51 AM
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The red pill would sure like this to be "feminine nature": Guys, don't we love when women completely embrace their feminine nature? When they wear a tight skirt, clean your apartment and cook you meals? Hell yeah we do, and it goes both ways. Shame for rp that it isn't. A small number of women and men enjoy cleaning. The rest don't. You have no idea what feminine is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 07:22 AM
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The most red pill men I know spend a lot of time gaming, going out on weekends to try to pick up women, and they say a lot of horrible, very red pill stuff about women. Two are divorced, the other never married. None of the three are doing well as far as I can see. The most blue pill men I know is a hard one - what is blue pill??? But I have a large group of friends, some I've know since school. These guys did well with girls, now have very happy relationships, good jobs and the guys seem very n…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 05:05 AM
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Someone needs to read a history book. Yep. Head to your nearest library and pick a few up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 04:50 AM
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The left might be controlling but they are not authoritarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 05:54 AM
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No. No, no, no and no. It didn't come from male self-help. It came from the first time in history that the white population felt threatened. Which is with the emancipation of black slaves. The alt-right are white supremacists (even the ones who aren't white think white should triumph) I tried to explain the alt-right a week or so ago and why it resulted in Trump being voted in, but a red pill mod deleted it. The alt-right comes from authoritarianism (authoritarianism goes hand-in-hand with the a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 02:25 AM
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women are looking for emotional validation without the hassle of having to put out. You don't seem aware that Japanese women travel to Bali and other places looking for sex with young male hookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 01:17 AM
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But it doesn't seem to be the cause of frustration on the dating market as much. You don't think women (who can't get the more attractive men for boyfriends) aren't frustrated by all the sloppy, overweight gamer men that are in their marketplace?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 01:16 AM
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You're going to have to link me to whatever you're talking about though Say what, dude? The link is in my OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 01:15 AM
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I LOVE being a whore! You sound like a bore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 01:13 AM
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This method was not reliable, and stating that men should put up with this because women have to, is not the right way to approach the development of better contraception for both sexes. It's not wrong that drug companies now want to make drugs with no or little side effects, maybe we need more female pressure and involvement in the development of female hormonal contraception, that has less side effects? I totally agree with not putting out a product that harms men. I'm not sure how you extrapo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 01:12 AM
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Its a logical argument but not much evidence, others brought up the Greeks, Japanese etc.. they did well Which time period? And we need cultures in which girls of other cultures weren't married young in said time periods, so we can compare.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 01:04 AM
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Less sluts Then why are you part of the red pill where men aim to be sluts? Less overweight women So, men can be porky but women can't?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 01:33 PM
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So, why ARE women unhappy? What WILL make them happy? This is a non-post. According to the red pill, men are unhappy too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 01:22 PM
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Yes it's very basic stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 01:18 PM
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however I can say my dad would randomly leave without saying anything all the time which we'd all find weird but it was never a huge deal, mostly just laughed when we expected him to be there and realised the car was gone. Your mother obviously didn't care. She obviously didn't ask where he was going and so he didn't have a chance to give a rude reply. If it worked for them, no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 01:17 PM
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You're talking to a bunch of 20 year old resentful Redditors who can't get a relationship.Take what they say with a grain of salt. Nope. TheFamilyAlpha is about 30 and many of the men in Married Red Pill are certainly older than that. Yet they lap this stuff up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 01:16 PM
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Yes, most people will discuss logistics, the amount of detail will depend on the insecurity, and validation required Apparently, according to TheFamilyAlpha & his devotees, even basic logistics isn't needed. Any response from "out" to "seeing a hooker" will suffice. If a woman should require more she's insecure and if you (the man) give more, then you are not truly masculine and you're not givin' her tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 01:14 PM
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Why is this all one-sided, dude? Men worry about their wives/girlfriends are. She went out for a jog and didn't come back and it's been hours? Wouldn't you appreciate a call to say that she ran into friends and is catching up? It's not about love and trust and jealousy- it's about trying to manage/coordinate a life together and having a basic idea of where the other is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 01:12 PM
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Can't argue with this. This is the way my partner and I conduct ourselves and it works for us. Upvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 01:04 PM
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The first article you linked says this: This article needs more medical references for verification or relies too heavily on primary sources. Please review the contents of the article and add the appropriate references if you can. Unsourced or poorly sourced material may be challenged and removed I'm out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 12:29 PM
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I concede that point. I know America's boom started from 1946. I thought the German economy didn't boom until the late 1950s onwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 12:15 PM
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One swallow doesn't make a summer, and you can't make a sustainable projection after n years if n=1. What in the fack? That's a hella lot more than one swallow. For example, for a time the educational system of Finland was the rage in my country It's the rage everywhere. The education system is a lot more difficult to change than the birthrate. I'm aware you're just reiterating what you're reading all the time in the newspapers, but apart from a privileged modern minority this claim holds little…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 11:50 AM
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And I call bullshit on your statement. People expect women to stand back and support their husband in achieving his dreams. A woman who stopped him so that she could work could easily be seen as a selfish bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 11:00 AM
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Says the person who earlier in the same thread talked like 50/50 shared custody was a terrifying prospect for a married woman to contemplate. No I was just pointing out the possible effects. I can't know what effect this will have on any individual. There are certainly men like that, but your stating this here as if it is a valid argument for what all men want to do is really insulting to fathers. I didn't say it was all fathers. What I've seen (after a breakup) is that a light goes off in the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 10:57 AM
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You are creating scenarios to strengthen your point. "Does this routinely" was never implied. Read the very first post to what I replied to. Ok, does it once in a while. Guaranteed to damage your relationship. And the OP was talking about doing this routinely.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 10:52 AM
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Someone who is sensitive to your needs will not answer "out" or "going to hook up with men" as she's running out the door. Chicken and egg.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 10:50 AM
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Yep, men can do as they please and women must play a role. That's the difference. Same old, same old....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 10:49 AM
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Depends on the context. No context. Just "out". That's all you get. That's all you'll ever get.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 02:22 AM
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He might get a better response if the 'glowstick' was some kind of glowing dildo for her, so that he'd still get to have his weird glowstick fantasy and she'd actually get something out of it. Win/win! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 12:02 AM
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You might have a different relationship with your wife than most. The red pill seem to be trying to frame this as a wife wanting control over her husband. It isn't that way at all. Just seems common courtesy, and it's not like he has to account for every hour he spends (in a healthy relationship). Example: Wife: Going out? Husband: Hardware store. Wife: Cool. I need a paintbrush to paint the chairs tomorrow. Would you mind picking one up? Husband: Sure Husband doesn't come back for 3 hours - muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:36 PM
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If a wife says she's going 'out' at night and doesn't come back for 6 hours, and does this routinely - and never tells you what she's doing. All ok? Still happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:26 PM
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"It's childish" -> Shaming. Not an argument. It's not shaming. It's stating a fact. If someone sounds like a teenager to your ears, then they sound like a teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:24 PM
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Yes it is about trust. A woman who insists on this doesn't trust her husband. So if your wife says she's going 'out' and doesn't come back until midnight, you're ok with that? And she doesn't tell you what she was doing (y'know just normal wife/husband talk)?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:23 PM
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and thus, very little explanation is required for our actions. So, you usually have dinner together at eight, but you decide to do something else and you don't bother to call? Or you say you're going 'out' and you don't come back until midnight and she's got a bit worried you might have had an accident? All ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:21 PM
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Depends on what you define as "slowly". The most important part (economically, not politically) was done by the 1960s. The USA boomed in the 1950s. I don't see Germany as having boomed in that time. I see a slow recovery and the article I linked to mentioned a slow recovery. While I don't know any reliable numbers, I would be very surprised. I'd wager it's pure conjecture on his part. It seemed to make sense. But more fool me for not investigating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:15 PM
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Given the fact that the Danish campaign started last year, it's a little soon to say anything about it. They already know how many more babies are going to be born. You can definitely change the mindset of a culture by explaining that the country is going backwards and that X needs to happen. And then help by providing assistance if needed. You didn't explain how this was nonsense when I gave you two solid examples. Australia may be an island but it isn't isolated from western culture. But if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:13 PM
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Basically the original series on that only recommended that as a last resort, I'm not sure what people are recommending now He posted it in trp a few days ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:08 PM
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But there was no other characteristic back in those days other than marrying girls young. There is nothing to compare it to. If there were cultures back then in which women married later, we'd have something to work with. The first evidence we have of cultures dividing in marriage age/giving women choice over who they married happened in the middle ages, with the rise of christianity. Marriage of female teenagers was not the usual in England in the middle ages. Marriage was even often delayed un…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:07 PM
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Doesnt make her more fertile or better at raising kids Yeah yeah yeah. Can't debate with someone who wants to put those kind of antiquated ideas forward. Why prefer to reverse engineer over engineer? Reverse engineering is used extensively in business - and in engineering and in science and lots of areas. I didn't say I prefer it. I use it as necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 10:46 PM
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Do you mean I was negative? I gave him 7/10 for his holiday idea and 10/10 for his romantic gestures idea. I don't care how goofy or off-the-mark a guy's romantic gestures are. If he does something, I appreciate it. But I wouldn't find it exciting when the kids go for a nap for him to whisk me away to give him a blowjob. I mean, your wife might think that's a gift but I'd be wondering what was in it for me. And if I asked him where he was going and he said "out" or any of those other things, I'd…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 10:42 PM
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And Germany recovered sloooowly It didn't recover slowly? The part about the 18 year olds marrying 40 year olds was BS. I don't have any knowledge about this. I took it as true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 10:37 PM
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Okay. I think in peoples reactions it should be worth noted that things are geared towards HIS wife - not every woman out there. If he's giving examples as part of his instruction, then it's instruction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 10:36 PM
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While true that hasn't stop women from still reinforcing the breadwinner role on men. Most men want to work. Most men want women to be the ones to stay home and look after the kids (or at least take on lower-paying/lower-hours jobs so that they can do the child raising). Women are still pretty much stuck if they want to have kids. Things are slowly getting better though, but not nearly enough. If workplaces had daycare centres attached to them, that would make it easier for a start.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 10:35 PM
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Columbus was selling American Indian girls to European nobility. Apparently 9-10 year olds were in great demand. I wonder where male desire would land if removed from all cultural baggage. Horrific. Considering that for almost all of our history, girls didn't undergo puberty until they were between 16-19, it would be pretty strange for men to desire little children. And if they did, as a point of interest, the world of humans would end.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 10:33 PM
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BS. If they value him that highly, why are they more likely to break up when they cheated themselves? That was just in reply to a breakup scenario. Did you say the same thing to the red piller who made the claim that men lose a sex partner after a break up? If he has been cheating, then why did he not value his wife enough not to cheat on her? Yeah, because as we all know, women don't usually have their children 80-90% of the time A lot of women would be willing to go 50/50, esp. if they work. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 09:43 PM
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If a government simply explains the situation, alongside programs that make having children easier for working women, then this can be enough to turn around the birth rate. This happened in Australia with the announcement of a 'baby bonus' - a large amount of money up to $5000. http://mccrindle.com.au/the-mccrindle-blog/the-baby-bonus-generation In Denmark, the govt began a campaign in 2015 that helped to have the effect of a coming "baby boom": http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/den…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 09:37 PM
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Should have known you'd show up. I just copied and pasted a row of events. I wasn't analysing each event. No doubt there were political reasons behind all of the help or events that took place. I'm not claiming altruism. My post was in reply to a post that claimed Germany did well because 18 year old girls married 40 year old men. I simply pointed out that the girls' choices were limited and that the recovery was slow and that other nations helped them (for reasons that go beyond this discussion…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 09:26 PM
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Nah, she's attracted to you because she's getting a free holiday and not having to do any of the planning or pay for it. "free holiday?" - If they're married, isn't his money her money, too? And if she has to do all the packing, then she's doing the bulk of the work. It's still nice - I'm not taking anything away from it. I gave it a 7/10. I dropped 3 points because she wouldn't have had much time to do the packing and he didn't do the packing himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 09:21 PM
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CMV: Cultures with dark-skinned people do not do as well as other cultures (past two hundred years) You can't go by the past two hundred years for something like that. It goes back to climate (which is why they're dark-skinned), greater access to tropical foods and animals for food etc. People who went to cold areas were forced to invent and forced to find creative ways to make shelter and get food (the start of technological advances). And far more time forced together (both men and women) for …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 09:18 PM
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Yeah, I'd give a higher score to his core advice - even though it's advice you find everywhere and is nothing new. Wow, 0/50? You're a harsh, harsh woman. I like that :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 09:14 PM
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Why do I have Mary Chapin-Carpenter's "He thinks he'll keep her" playing in my head? Sad song. Sounds like the life a lot of women lead, but I didn't really understand what he did wrong that she ended up leaving him. It didn't explain that part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 09:12 PM
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What is "the culture" if not what the people in that culture do? It's what people do as part of their normal routine, year after year after year. If a war happens etc, then things change dramatically and people may not be able to follow their culture for a time. If 18 year old girls continued to marry 40 year old men up until now, that would be their (changed) culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 08:59 PM
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Where? I've never heard that on TRP. Then you haven't been around enough. You haven't seen the threads where many of 'em claim prime-aged girls are 16 with a few saying even younger are better?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 08:57 PM
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Yep. He sounds like too much hard work.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 08:56 PM
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Score 0/10 This is supposed to be about his examples. That's all I'm interested in discussing. By the way, I agree with most of your post, but the devil is in the details, as they say. I didn't see his examples are being specific to his relationship but as instruction. No matter what he tries to say, if you put it out there as instruction, it's instruction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 08:56 PM
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Yes. But my issue was with the examples he gave - which is what the eager denizens of the red pill are lapping up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 08:53 PM
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K, so? hmmm... got something reasonable to say? Little bit of insight? A bit of actual content? Maybe few more syllables? A few grunts? Hmmm? (think of all that in Stewie's voice)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 08:52 PM
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:) I'm pretty much into spreadsheets, data and scores myself. Relates to my business. While I would never hand a husband/partner an actual spreadsheet of our relationship, nor keep one (that's just sick and wrong), my brain is automatically tallying. Days that my ex-husband messed the house and didn't clean it and all the days he was too tired for sex but didn't want to do anything to make himself less tired.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 08:49 PM
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If a man was on his path to soaring high in a profession and then he stopped to take care of kids, in order to let his wife have a career - people would be saying the wife was selfish and that it was a shame the man didn't get to fulfil his potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 08:45 PM
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your causation is backwards: cultures dont do well because they let women study and shit in their 20s but they let women study and shit in their 20s because they do well. Sorry, this doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 08:43 PM
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Your premise is flawed in that you think women being educated actually matters. Please, tell me how it doesn't. Your whole post is an exercise in starting at a conclusion and working backwards too, typical. Yes it is typical. I like to reverse-engineer things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 08:42 PM
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Can you expand this? I don't know what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 08:41 PM
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Our morality is then shaped by it, now desiring a young fertile woman is to be thought of as decadent and immoral. My point is that it's a race to the bottom when the men of a whole culture desire it. With the girls getting younger and younger, all the way to puberty. With all the negatives (and resulting economic harm) outlined in my OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 08:40 PM
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The success of these cultures, I posit, has little to nothing to do with marriage ages, and more technological development and geopolitics. And I posit that it's largely to do with the subjection of women - including the marriages ages - that these cultures are not advancing in those areas as fast as the west (unless they have abundant natural resources, as i said in my OP)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 07:53 AM
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masculine way of communicating Those responses are not masculine. They sound weedy to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 07:25 AM
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If he came at me with a glow stick I'd run screaming from the building hahaha 10/10
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 07:00 AM
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I used to. Not anymore. PPD leans way too far red. I save my best for forums in which people debate seriously and in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 07:00 AM
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That could be a point. Haven't thought of it from that angle. Though most men with adult brains wouldn't want a 12 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 06:58 AM
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The red pill often says that it's natural for men to marry young girls, including girls under 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 04:29 AM
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Sorry i thought you meant people were demanding links. The big problem is that it's wasted on the red pill. My post was already long and most will barely read that let alone links. Most red pill CMVs go something like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5d930a/cmv_society_tries_to_shame_men_for_wanting_young/ No links to back up the viewpoint and they get tons of circle-jerking comments from red pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 04:06 AM
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By then men are established financially and in their careers, and they can still produce children. No, a large percentage won't be able to produce children. Some will have greatly reduced fertility, or inability to get an erection or reach the point of ejaculation, almost all that do ejaculate will have ejaculation that dribbles out rather than spurts (reducing the chance of the sperm reaching the egg). Besides all that, many women won't want a man who will be 70+ by the time their child is 20, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 04:02 AM
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She might be subjected to 50/50 shared custody?! Oh the horror! /s Keep in mind that this is actually the best case scenario a lot of men can hope for in a divorce. Hey, play nice. I was just pointing things out. Same thing would happen if the wife was working and the husband was a full-time stay-at-home dad. Can't imagine too many people would feel sorry for a man lacking professional experience for taking time off from his professional career in order to follow his dream of being a full-time p…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 03:16 AM
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Nope. Wrong. Not when a condom is in use. He's far more likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 03:01 AM
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You're forgetting that oral sores can be transferred too. Men are far more likely to catch herpes from a woman (when a condom is being used) than a woman is to catch it from a man (when a condom is being used). And on 'extracurriculars, a condom is often used.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 03:00 AM
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My response was, not likely, since it's pretty hard for a guy to pick something up on his extracurriculars. Men are far more likely to catch herpes from a woman (when a condom is being used) than a woman is to catch it from a man (when a condom is being used). And on 'extracurriculars, a condom is often used.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 02:59 AM
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Question: Is a woman withholding sex or denying/refusing sex to a husband "cheating"? I hold that it is - she's keeping something from her husband that is rightfully his (sexual access). Marriage is a sexual relationship. No sex = breach of the marriage contract = no marriage = end of the marriage. Agree? Disagree? Disagree. A man did this to me. Not on purpose. Stress at work made his libido plunge.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 02:55 AM
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Damn. This hit hard. I was willing to entertain OP until I read this. You're right. Most women lose their sex partner, a companion, only see their kids for half or a portion of the time, having to put up with a new 'mother' mothering their kids when they're with the father, lose their homes (the homes are usually sold) and she already lost the ability to make a fuckton of money when she sacrificed her job to have the kids. He can continue on and advance in his career. She might be starting on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 02:51 AM
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MEN AND WOMEN ARE DIFFERENT. It's worse for a woman to cheat, no matter how you slice it, no matter who has more money, no matter if the finances are equal. It's worse when women do it. It is ALWAYS worse when women do it. ALWAYS. And there we have it, ladies and gentlemen. Red pill analysis. Just add the words different and always and it becomes valid data.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 02:46 AM
2

The correct answer is more likely to be yes if that friend is a female who's husband cheated than if it's a male who's wife cheated. Incorrect these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 02:40 AM
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Suppose you have a random man and a random woman. They each just found out they got cheated on. I would say that the woman would be more likely to be able to successfully salvage her marriage. In the past only, when women relied on men for an income. Not anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 02:39 AM
0

It's a reaction to the terrible argument you're giving.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 02:38 AM
4

Thanks for the anecdata.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 02:30 AM
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OP says "Sexual Objectification is a beneficial to all women except unattractive women". Commenter says "Sexual objectification is beneficial to attractive women and not beneficial to unattractive women -- it isn't beneficial to all women because all women are not attractive." Those two statements don't seem to contradict each other. If sexual objectification is not beneficial to unattractive women, then it must be detrimental (or neutral at best). (I don't agree with either statement)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 02:28 AM
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Maybe not in backwards countries like USA, but there are some places you can get them. Yes there are some places as I said. But in most places, people aren't seen as products (in the way that slaves are).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 02:22 AM
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Your premise is blown out by life, in general, being shit in those areas. My premise is that life is shit largely because of men marrying girls too young. (Note: not the only reason - environmental issues can be extreme in some areas.) http://europesworld.org/2014/02/24/educating-africas-women-is-the-key-to-economic-wealth/#.WC0IBrJ950w
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 02:20 AM
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And to be precise, any man OR woman is "used goods" past a certain age. Yes but I don't look at it in those terms. It's useless to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 01:33 AM
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Sorry, have edited to make this point clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 01:32 AM
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sub Saharan Africa isn't poor cause women don't get careers or marry young, sub Saharan Africa is poor cause it lacks basic resources to feed itself much less generate wealth. That's true but the situation would be immensely helped by women not having babies very young and by educating women. It's key. http://europesworld.org/2014/02/24/educating-africas-women-is-the-key-to-economic-wealth/ PS notwithstanding the above, in comparison are you positive 2016 US society is 'better' than 1950 US soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 01:31 AM
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I'd say your statement is a bit contradictory. Sexual objectification is beneficial to attractive women and not beneficial to unattractive women -- it isn't beneficial to all women because all women are not attractive. That's exactly what the OP said. Why on earth have people been up-voting your answer. Are they nuts?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 01:14 AM
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??? Where was it suggested that I do this? It's obvious people in the west live in better conditions than those in the poor regions of India/Africa/Indonesia etc The effect of early marriage on girls has entire websites devoted to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 01:04 AM
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Yes, marrying off pre-teen girls is wrong. But it's not relevant to this discussion. It's very relevant. It's actually the whole point of this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 01:02 AM
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Your opinion is exactly the same as my opinion here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 01:02 AM
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True, but it still must have been very difficult for an 18 year old girl to cope with the thought of having sex with a 40 year old man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 01:01 AM
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Edit: the only time OP mentions an actual age, she says "under 25" so I don't think that's what she meant. No, 18-25 is not too young. But the results are best when women begin having children older than that age range, so their education can be completed. And when the culture itself says that very young women are best (and the younger the better) then it's a race to the bottom. I was saying that it's especially problematic when the girls are under 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 12:58 AM
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edit: I just scrolled down. To counter the point that OP used 25 as the basis for being too young, that's not what she said. She said 25 and above is best. She would have to weigh in herself, but again, I don't read this as saying 24 is too young, or even 18. Based on what I know about this problem, she means, again, 13/14 and younger. No, 18-25 is not too young. But the results are best when women begin having children older than that age range, so their education can be completed. And when the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 12:56 AM
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Hypergamy leads to polygamy No it doesn't. The vast majority of women want one man at a time. Denmark Has one of the highest rates of male infertility in the world. Possibly caused by their mothers eating red meat, being exposed to chemicals and smoking while pregnant. But among women - birth rates are increasing. The birth rates can be increased simply by the govt explaining that the rates need to increase. It's not something as dire or permanent as the increase in male infertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 12:52 AM
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My argument was about the "culture" and what the culture does and believes. If things happen that are way out of the norm, they don't count, unless they continue from that point on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 12:25 AM
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Has years of what you call female hypergamy (what I call choice) sent the west backward? The west is currently working towards making paid work easier for parents with children, so the birth rate will be just fine into the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 12:23 AM
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I didn't say all Americans were winning. And America is the not the whole west anyway. But in comparison to hordes of beggar children in the street, no chance of ever changing your situation no matter how hard you work, maybe no clean water or maybe no food - you're doing a lot better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 12:20 AM
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yeah yeah yeah. Data does not agree with red pill. Data bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 12:16 AM
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History disagrees with you on the reason for the recovery. Germany suffered huge losses of young men in the war, so this wasn't a deliberate move that was born of the reasons I outlined in my OP. And Germany recovered sloooowly, with massive help from the west: In 1947, the Marshall Plan, initially known as the "European Recovery Program" was initiated. In the years 1947-1952, some $13 billion of economic and technical assistance—-equivalent to around $130 billion in 2006—were allocated to Weste…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 12:12 AM
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Slavery is illegal (except in a few places in the world). You can't buy people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 12:04 AM
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You might want to do something about your bad faith problem there. I'd like to have a reason to, believe me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 12:04 AM
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If you want to think that way, then any man over a certain age is 'used goods'. Divorced or not. Because his sperm production is older, he looks older etc. He's less desirable to young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 12:03 AM
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Hot damn that was good. So good it cannot be argued with, and that's rare in PPD. Sadly, the red pill will ignore your points and just blindly splutter the red pill party line.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 09:38 PM
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you honestly believe I wouldn't be laughed at if I reported this? girls showing me their panties on purpose, girls verbally teasing me and not in the light manner that you might be thinking about, women stalking me etc etc. If I told this to anyone I'd be called a faggot I didn't say any of the above. And I think you're right, unless it was in a work environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 09:33 PM
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It doesn't take away value because of age and children. A woman who likes that level of maturity might find you far more valuable than a man who never married or had kids. Another woman, whose goals are to have a family might choose a different man, who is younger and has not had kids of his own. Doesn't mean you're 'used goods'. No such thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 09:32 PM
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It was observable if the participants thought they had a chance of taking the money. Which is what happened. The experiment was conducted twice. Same results. The red pill just don't want to think that their "data" could be wrong. They don't seem to understand that data born of bitterness and relayed by anonymous bitter men isn't actually real data.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 09:28 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 08:13 PM
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Yeah men could be good for nothing, but they can't be used goods. Neither men nor women can be used goods. People are not products.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 08:11 PM
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Rubbing their breasts on you - isn't that sexual harassment?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 08:08 PM
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Yes, I've had this too, twice. In my case it wasn't scary, just annoying and left me wondering what I'd done for this to happen. I think the 'bunny boiler' level of stalking is generally male - which is why the Fatal Attraction movie shocked men so much. Because the number of women stalkers who murder the person/new partner of the person they're stalking is low compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 08:07 PM
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12-year-olds have no clue or care about female designers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 08:03 PM
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lol at 'red pill ideas' And of course you bolded the bit about the limitations of the study without reading on to where they said they repeated the study, using different parameters. People could choose whether to donate their survey money or not - so that wasn't a matter of reporting. It was directly observable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 08:02 PM
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Women game designers etc have faced a deluge of death and rape threats, just because they're in an area that is perceived as a "man's domain". Men who feel disenfranchised and not as good as other men too often take out their personable problems on women. And that extends to online gaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 07:57 AM
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very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 07:55 AM
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Especially when you consider that lesbians have higher rates of domestic violence than straight couples. I'm not sure of the rate of homicides in lesbian relationships, but I do know that the rate of homicides in relation to men killing their female partners is high (in terms of overall female homicide victims)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 05:03 AM
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Sounds like girls harass you with their tits on trains.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 05:01 AM
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I was talking historically, in terms of masterpieces & sonnets etc. I only know a couple of Swift's and Adele's songs :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 05:00 AM
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I guess some people just wanna stick their dick in things , that's really the vibe I'm getting here Yes, but if that thing doesn't want your dick, there the problem lies. If you bang a prostitute, you're not making an object out of her, because she has full consent to the use of her body.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 04:59 AM
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There's a difference between banter and targeting someone. There's a big difference. 'Faggot' means nothing in the gaming world, unless the person is gay and people know that person is gay. Then it's shitty. 'kill you and your family' could just be people talking in a mafia voice and gain, it might mean nothing. But if you target someone for a specific reason that has to do with who that person is, then you've crossed the line and you're doing something you specifically hope will cause distress …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 04:55 AM
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Oh I didn't say women don't stalk. I said it's not expected. Also, it's not feared that much. It's not that common that a woman kills her ex (or his new wife/girlfriend). It does happen but not nearly as often as it happens to women. (By the way, your link doesn't say that it's only women doing that 44% of stalking of male victims. This 44% would include men stalking male ex-lovers)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 12:37 AM
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I don't see how it's not human though You don't see how the child is seen as not human in that circumstance? Ok, a different question. A dead person is still human, but would you bang the dead if you had the opportunity? What if the dead person could be kept warm and made to move (with ropes etc)? For some people, sex with the dead would be their choice, as they can't deal with the aspects of a human that most make them human (their minds). Human is a being with a capacity to feel fear, pain, de…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 12:31 AM
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Yes you are supporting what I just said. Both men and women are shamed by society for what is perceived as stalker behaviour. A man and a woman will both be considered crazy and creepy for it. Sorry, I don't think I totally got a grip on what you were saying. TRP will likely disagree with this and argue women are given a free pass for stalking, but I would disagree with them. As you've pointed out, they are called "bunny boiler" and considered crazy. If they do, they've got no leg to stand on. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 12:19 AM
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I see women as being schooled from the time they are little to look for their 'prince' and happily ever after. I've never seen the red pill shame a woman for this. People were shocked, esp. men, over the Fatal Attraction movie, because we hadn't often seen a woman stalking a man. Women were expected to fade into the background when a man rejected her. The movie had that much of an impact, the term 'bunny boiler' is still used and recognised.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 11:30 PM
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Have women not done these things out of their love for men too? Written sonnets, painted masterpieces, etc.? Yes, they have. But their masterpieces were far less likely to be recognised as such (if they were allowed to paint or write sonnets in the first place) I have also heard that men stay heartbroken longer, but they tend to use alcohol and drugs more as well as have less social support after a relationship ends. I'd say that's true. I don't know that social support helps all that much thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 11:26 PM
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i wasn't aware that public transportation and the streets were now beaches? So, if you see cleavage at the beach it's ok? But in a shopping mall it's cock teasing? Does the penis know the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 11:25 PM
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Suicide? Depression? Hating his mother? Loss of what confidence he had?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 11:24 PM
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Yes, but the point is they're not ripping on women because they hate women. They're ripping on women because they rip on everybody, and they're only making it about their sex because they insult everybody as much and as personally as possible. So, 'ripping on women' includes telling them they're going to rape them and then cut them into pieces? Which I've come across more than a few times while playing console games. Who are you trying to fool?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 11:20 PM
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Women are just used to be more isolated and protected from that kind of shit, so they take it harder and more personal. When in actuality they've just been made equal to men. Nope. That doesn't explain it. Men don't commonly tell other men they're going to rape them or what other sexual thing they're going to do to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 11:18 PM
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The hard core gamers have a large percentage of men who don't go out and actually do stuff (they just sit playing games and stuffing their face with cheetos) - and they are the ones who are more likely to hate women. Hence, they pile sexual slurs on women, trying to hurt them and make them leave the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 11:16 PM
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Sexualising is seeing the human as object (a sexual object, without any respect given to their human status). Eg. The people who travel to Asian countries to rape children are seeing the children as sexual objects and nothing more. The children have no human status.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 11:14 PM
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What's new is the shaming of it. Yes. They don't shame women for having oneitis, I notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 11:05 PM
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I think you might be wrong in this. Men kill for love. They stalk women. They harass the one they want, thinking that she'll 'come around'. Men have committed suicide because the woman of their desire turned them down. Men have built amazing works of architecture for one woman (usually his wife). It's said that men suffer for longer after a relationship breakdown than a woman. *note: 'Men' as in 'some men'. Not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 11:05 PM
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Oh I'm sure a mother can talk to a boy about his sex drive and what he will face in the SMP /s /s /s /s Why can't she talk about sex drive? Does not compute. SMP is something most people don't need to even know about. If he's good looking and confident and has lots of friends, he's going to do well. If he has none of things, he has a MUCH harder road, as do girls without those things. Best thing she can do is to get him into team sports/gym/things that increase confidence & ambition. Telling him…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 11:00 PM
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Ask him how many times he thought about sex when he was 15-25 years old. Just asked him. He started young - 13. So say, 13-20 during times when he didn't have girlfriend or regular sex - yes. Later, when exhausted from exams and late working shifts while studying - yep, lot of days when he just didn't want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 10:56 PM
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Women dress like that at the beach. So do a lot of men. How is it cock teasing?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 10:54 PM
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Not all of them were like this but most were, which told me that women will attempt to LTR men who really aren't LTR material, before seeking the less attractive beta provider (NSFW). Have seen this comic before. Again not true of all women. Myself, and lots of women I know, will not date or have sex with a player or 'alpha jock'. Some women are damned stupid and think they can change a guy. But those women are not all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 12:16 AM
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Prove it By the year in your username, you've been around long enough to have researched these things for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 10:36 PM
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Yup I'm with you on that. Society is SO looks-focused, I can't really relate to the "I never thought looks mattered at all" people. Seriously never thought I'd see a red piller say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 09:56 PM
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^ So much this. Unless they have some kind of difficulties, such as autism (in which case, I completely understand).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 09:54 PM
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Its only very recently with the advent of feminism that feminists have unsuccessfully tried to convince people that sluttiness is not an unattractive quality Slut shaming was non-existent in isolated cultures in the past. It's not something that's hard-wired. It's true that girls slut-shame each other. I disagree they do it more than men, but they do it for different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 09:52 PM
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Though I haven't told women an exact number (no one asked), I've never met a woman who was put off by my promiscuity. They were all intrigued and wanted me to tell them stories of my conquests. Then you've only met certain kinds of women - they might be promiscuous themselves or the kind who don't care about promiscuity in a man/is only looking for a ONS. You certainly haven't met me, nor a lot of women I know - who would never date a promiscuous man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 09:48 PM
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Irrelevant to the point No. You're just unable to make the mental leap. It was said that it's hard-wired into men to want certain things in a woman - one of things being to avoid STDs (choosing a virgin). If so, then it should be 10 x more hard-wired into women, because STDs can destroy her chance of ever having a baby, or of having a sickly/deformed/soon-to-die baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 09:46 PM
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And that's the difference. Men who turn down sluts (usually) don't object to being "just one more" (unless they've been indoctrinated with the feminine imperative big time); they don't want to be "the last one". That may be true. But my point was that women (generally) see it differently, which affects how they see promiscuous men as well. Some women (who not promiscuous themselves), especially those who put money or fame first, will overlook promiscuity in a man. But the rest of women will not …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 09:42 PM
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I don't really know what a social justice warrior is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 12:43 PM
1

Where'd you get that picture of my partner from?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 12:41 PM
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But if she is agreeing to the sex throughout the encounter, no it's not rape. No, she didn't agree. For this matter women can report rape because she only consented to sex if her husband washes the dishes I wish I could offer sex if my guy washes the dishes, but that won't work because he knows I'll want it as much as he does ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 12:40 PM
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I'm not sure it's like that for women and romance. You get wiser and a little jaded, true, but it doesn't stop you from falling in love and staying in love. Whereas I have no special thought or feelings for my first boyfriend (whom I dated as a virgin before we slept together). He was just like any other. You see lots of couples who've been together since they were teenagers, but now have fallen out of love with each other and are just staying together for the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 12:32 PM
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special magical stick of love When did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 12:27 PM
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"There must be something special about this man that so many women would give themselves to him." I've turned down guys for dates who I knew slept with a lot of women - from the time i was a teenager. Turned me right off. I didn't want to be "just one more". And I'm afraid women don't realise the difficulties men face in getting sex- I didn't until I came to PPD, so they see nothing special about a man who gets it a lot. I saw nothing special about a guy who "lots of women have given themselves …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 12:25 PM
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If you slept with 40 women, and met a woman you were interested in dating long term, a woman who happens to be beautiful and everything you want, and she asked how many women you've known sexually, would you say 40? I'll help you out. If she's asking, she cares about your N count. A lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 04:25 AM
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Must be different for women then. I fell out of love with my first bang within weeks. A few different guys later, and I'm more in love than I ever thought I could be with my partner (after six years). The first bang seriously means nothing. It's only special if you love/continue to love the person. Nothing special about a penis. All men have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 04:20 AM
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Ewww.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 04:12 AM
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she's far less likely to have STDs Women are more damaged by STDs than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 04:10 AM
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Not romantically, no. But I've been rejected twice for my offers of a FWB. Looking back, they were right and I was wrong. FWBs would have been fraught with difficulty. I respect the decisions of the guys who had a better handle on that than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 01:55 AM
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A man paid a sex worker for sex, then just before the act he refused to wear a condom and forced his penis into her vagina and ejaculated. He didn't get convicted of anything. The judge said that she agreed to sex so it wasn't rape. Him not using a condom just didn't matter. I'd call it rape. Yes, seems very wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 01:51 AM
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This is getting very confused. All I'm saying is that you related your experience to 'blue pill' when it's not blue pill. To say 'society' is blue pill can be said if you want, but then you'd have to acknowledge that the results are more positive than negative. And stop calling it brainwashing - because society is very broad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 01:47 AM
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