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Hell no. Stop telling people how to do their gender is the name of the game. However, that cuts both ways: if people want to be all trucks-and-meat, that's absolutely fine, there's nothing toxic or bad about any choice, so long as people aren't pressured into it. And that's where conflict comes in - there's an understandable backlash to the trucks-and-meat stuff, as it has a long history of association with being mandatory and the standard by which people should be judged. And so it's often held…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/23 12:03 AM
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates has you covered.
/r/MensRights27/02/23 10:04 PM
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1: Where it went wrong is where every movement goes wrong: tribalism. Any kind of in-group vs out-group boundary will eventually get exploited for clicks / attention / grants / mindshare. It's a basic failure mode of the human (and primate, hell probably even mammalian) psyche. If you draw a distinction based on demographics, it doesn't matter how carefully you phrase it and what you originally mean - a version that subverts the original intent and hooks into them-bad-us-good will inevitably out…
/r/MensRights06/10/22 06:13 AM
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Yep, it may be lower-impact, but it's still unacceptable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/22 03:38 PM
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Female as an adjective is fine. A female patient, a female customer, a female politician - nobody's going to bat an eyelid. The problem is when you use it as a noun, when you call someone "a female". It comes across like calling someone "a gay", "a black" or "a chinese". It also sounds like you're talking about an animal. There's a perfectly good word - 'woman' - for 'female person', so avoiding sounds... pointed. Weird incels and their 'femoids' are loading the dice on this one, putting everyon…
/r/MensRights10/04/22 04:23 PM
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bad bot
/r/MensRights02/04/22 10:19 AM
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First up, this sub tends to swing fairly hard-right; for a counterbalance you might like to look at /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates. As for actual outcomes, you've probably heard it as well as I can say it: treating men as human beings worthy of empathy and compassion, with bodily and reproductive autonomy, freedom from prescriptive gender roles and generally not being thought of as dangerous animals in need of behavioural modification. Exactly how you define those things and how you go about reaching …
/r/MensRights02/04/22 10:18 AM
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A lot of mens-advocacy spaces have been pushed hard-right by a bunch of factors, and they can be really unpleasant. A lot of conservative types oppose feminism because of all the reasons people imagine they would. A lot of progressive people can't conceive of any criticism of feminism coming from any other motivation, so loudly denounce anyone who speaks up on MRM issues. This has a chilling effect on progressive people who do care about MRM issues, but who don't want to get denounced, so they k…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/21 04:43 PM
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Yes, but they can't control his movements - and they've got more to worry about right now than special cases and special arrangements. If you're not a patient, leave. Simple, easy to administer, easy to deal with. Sucks horribly, of course. We all have loved ones we would like to be with - and some have had to miss that chance forever. Blame the goddamn virus. It's nothing to do with sex or gender; same-sex parents would be kept out just as hard.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/21 04:01 PM
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Look, I'm massive on the rights and status of fathers, but you're drawing a pretty long bow on this one. The mother's in hospital because she's just given birth. The baby's in hospital because it's just been born. The father has no medical need to be in hospital. And in the middle of a rampant delta-strain outbreak, that's the only criteria that matters. If you don't need to be hospitalized - in Blacktown right now ffs - then you don't go in the fucking hospital. Yes, skin-to-skin is nice to hav…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/21 03:31 PM
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To me it means a basically socialist-progressive ethos. A lot of MRA spaces have been driven towards a traditionalist audience that's basically a cross between a bunch of Texas bumper stickers and a Trump rally. Most progressive spaces tend to be heavily anti-MRA, and people in them are chilled out of expressing pro-male sentiments or being seen to visit MRA spaces. This filtering effect tends to happen from both ends - as the remaining population in MRA spaces becomes increasingly traditionalis…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/21 03:58 AM
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Imagine being told that your rape doesn't matter because not many people like you get raped.
/r/MensRights28/12/20 03:22 PM
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A sad story, but not my problem. It doesn't give anyone the right to violate my privacy and subject me to DNA testing without my consent.
/r/MensRights12/09/20 03:37 PM
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I don't consent to genetic testing. Absolutely make paternity testing available if you want to claim child support, and the person named as father cares to dispute the claim. But you don't increase my rights by forcing me to get tested if I don't want to.
/r/MensRights12/09/20 09:38 AM
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Can we just call it 'gender policing'? It blames the action, not the victim - and it makes it gender-neutral.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/20 01:03 AM
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I don't fucking understand this. Anyone with a foreskin knows how much erogenous sensation they provide. Talk about country of the blind...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/20 06:47 AM
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It does get pretty t_d in here at times. It's depressing.
/r/MensRights08/08/19 10:12 PM
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They're turning the damn frogs gay!
/r/MensRights01/08/19 03:35 AM
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The daily wire ffs. Stop posting garbage sources.
/r/MensRights31/07/19 11:49 PM
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Can we please not link fucking dailywire. Or breitbart. Or townhall, or zerohedge, or infowars, or dailymail, or any of the rest of these shit sites. Seriously, the movement has an image problem, and sources like these are not helping.
/r/MensRights06/04/19 01:02 AM
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Can we fucking not link dailycaller, please?
/r/MensRights10/03/19 10:22 PM
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Fuck Breitbart.
/r/MensRights31/12/18 07:54 AM
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Could we fuck off with the scare quotes, please?
/r/MensRights30/09/16 01:19 AM
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You still said 'sex with' and not 'rape of'.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 11:31 PM
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Real women like alpha males. Prescriptive gender roles, shaming those who do not conform. We like to f*ck and we like to be dominant. Prescriptive gender roles again It only becomes unnatural when feminists/lesbians become jealous and want to do likewise. Homophobia, naturalistic fallacy. There is something perverse about sex, but so what??? It is what it is... Sex negativity. Men are hiding their nature because they are being shamed into doing so. Prescriptive gender roles again. If you have ev…
/r/MensRights05/07/15 06:05 AM
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He comes in here spewing homophobia, hatred, restrictive gender norms sex-negativity, and a staggeringly ignorant application of the naturalistic fallacy, and... what was the good part, again? He sure as hell doesn't speak for me.
/r/MensRights05/07/15 12:27 AM
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Being male is nothing anyone should ever have to apologise for. Being the OP, on the other hand, is another matter entirely.
/r/MensRights04/07/15 04:39 PM
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That's a shitty, shitty argument, sorry. Natural != good. Cancer is natural. Dying by 30 from malnutrition because your teeth rotted out of your head and now you can't eat is natural. Arsenic is natural. And similarly, evolution doesn't work that way. I don't have to outrun a lion, I just need to outrun you, as the old joke goes. There are hundreds of shitty, shitty bugs in the design of the human body. Our retinas are in backwards, our kidneys shut down and die if we go into shock briefly, we h…
/r/MensRights04/07/15 10:05 AM
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Australian here. I would be considered extremely far left by US standards.
/r/MensRights01/06/15 10:12 AM
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There still is an astounding amount of victim-blaming shit goes on in the world. Go look at the comments section of somewhere a little less progressive than reddit - a local news station / newspaper website, for instance - in response to a rape story. A depressing percentage of them will be downright horrifying - asking what she was thinking wearing X, or what she expected going out drinking like that, or something something little slut, and possibly an analogy to meat and hungry dogs. This isn'…
/r/MensRights24/07/14 12:56 PM
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Could we have a less hyperbolic source, please?
/r/MensRights24/05/14 01:37 PM
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If being drunk is no excuse for the crime of DUI, then being 'triggered' or whatthefuckever is no excuse for rape. There is no excuse for rape.
/r/MensRights21/05/14 01:38 PM
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So that woman recently who boasted of fucking a passing-out drunk guy - what she did was perfectly fine? Think, for god's sake.
/r/MensRights21/05/14 01:35 PM
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Human beings are just a sock's way of making more socks. Think about it.
/r/MensRights21/01/14 01:27 AM
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That's... interesting. The game appeals to me, but I've never taken the time to actually learn.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 11:28 PM
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Yeah no, Tony really is a sexist piece of shit. http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Tony_Abbott I'm no advocate of AA or anything like it - but I have zero confidence that there's no bias going on here.
/r/MensRights17/09/13 11:41 AM
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Because I don't consent to be tested. Forcing me to be tested does not increase my rights.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 05:47 AM
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A lot of the problem comes from a failure to adapt as society changes. Women have historically suffered a great deal of oppression and discrimination, and this still continues to an extent in various areas. However progress has been made, and is continuing to be made, via a whole lot of awareness-raising and associated social and political pressure. Good stuff, all of it. The problem is, though, that as a side-effect of this awareness-raising, several attitudes have become adopted almost axiomat…
/r/MensRights12/12/12 01:44 AM
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Yeah, just as soon as they stop sending billions of dollars a year to Israel and backing all its policy decisions no matter what, I'm sure they'll pass a law that every single Jewish resident of the US would protest.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 06:40 AM
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Yeah, because being weak is for girls. And those goddamn pussy male rape victims should harden the fuck up, and count themselves lucky because hey, free sex.
/r/MensRights26/10/12 02:25 AM
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You've got big-ticket issues raging through society, and you see people here bogging down in the small stuff. Yep, that's got to be frustrating. A bit like having epidemics of cholera and dysentery rampaging through a population, and you see people wittering on about whether some idiot washed his hands after he went to the bathroom, or technical specifications of the sewerage infrastructure. Fuck's sake guys, we've got bigger fish to fry. There are people dying here. Yeah. We know. And the REASO…
/r/MensRights26/10/12 12:45 AM
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Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.' I rejected those answers; instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose...Rapture, a city where the artist would not fear the censor, where the scientist would not be bound by petty morality, where the great would not be constrained by the small! And with …
/r/MensRights02/09/12 02:53 AM
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No, MRAs should be pro-choice because reproductive rights are important regardless of gender. Only advocating the rights of others where there's direct advantage to yourself... makes you a shitty person.
/r/MensRights28/08/12 11:27 PM
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We have a dog in this fight because half our fellow human beings stand to get fucked over. You don't need more motivation than that.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 03:29 PM
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But -archy denotes -rulership, not some abstract ideal. Patriarchy means father-rulership; the patriarchy means the set of fathers that rule. Wikipedia puts it succinctly: Patriarchy is a social system in which the male acts as the primary authority figure central to social organization, and where fathers hold authority over women, children, and property. It implies the institutions of male rule and privilege, and entails female subordination. If people are going to invent new concepts, they sho…
/r/MensRights03/08/12 07:17 AM
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How the fuck is it not?
/r/MensRights19/07/12 07:05 AM
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There is a certain mindset common in many capital-F Feminist circles, wherein roles of oppressed and oppressor are almost axiomatic; to be on the side of equality and justice is to advocate for change favouring women, even where women are actually in an advantageous position already. I don't think this is malicious; not so long ago it was a highly effective rule of thumb, accurate in the great majority of cases. However, statically equating pro-female with pro-equality in people's minds has led …
/r/MensRights19/07/12 06:57 AM
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Well, in this we differ. I can see where you're coming from, but personally I place a clump of cells no larger or more differentiated than what gets scraped off your cheek when you eat a piece of toast... far, far below a living breathing human being's mildest annoyance. Of course, as the foetus develops, this changes, and frankly I have no sharp lines to draw - it's one big fuzzy grey gradient. There's undoubtedly a least-worst option in any given case, but with so many contributing factors, I …
/r/MensRights12/07/12 06:45 AM
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Even if you count it a distinct entity, that still doesn't give anyone else rights over the uterus it's gestating in.
/r/MensRights10/07/12 06:15 AM
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I absolutely agree that fathers should be able to opt-out of parenthood under certain conditions. However, I absolutely disagree that they should have any decisions over the pregnancy. Nobody has authority over another person's body, and until the kid is born, that's what it is: part of the mother's body, and none of anyone else's business. Yes, it would suck to have a wanted pregnancy terminated, but all the alternatives are massively worse.
/r/MensRights10/07/12 12:28 AM
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Someone has no idea how reddit works.
/r/MensRights05/07/12 10:49 AM
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Picture of text ಠ_ಠ
/r/MensRights02/07/12 05:16 AM
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Look how hard the author has to bend over backwards in order to frame men's rights as ultimately benefiting women.
/r/MensRights20/06/12 02:03 AM
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No, I'm saying that the cultural norm is always shit. We should not be cannon fodder, and all the high-faluting 'noble sacrifice' bullshit only serves to justify our being so.
/r/MensRights18/06/12 03:25 AM
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A husband cheating on his wife wouldn't demonstrate the disposable nature of women in our society, so neither does a woman cheating on her husband demonstrate the disposable nature of men. Now, glorifying military service, on the other hand...
/r/MensRights18/06/12 01:58 AM
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They chose to sign up, so yes they fucking well did.
/r/MensRights18/06/12 12:58 AM
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It wouldn't prove the opposite were the genders reversed, so that argument doesn't stand.
/r/MensRights18/06/12 12:56 AM
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How is this a men's rights issue? People cheat, male or female.
/r/MensRights18/06/12 12:54 AM
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This is intolerable, of course - but what the hell was the guy thinking? You lawyer yourself up to the eyeballs before even contemplating something like this.
/r/MensRights23/04/12 06:10 AM
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Show him this post. Also point out that circumcision is not mentioned in the Qur'an at all.
/r/MensRights16/04/12 12:03 AM
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We cannot gain ground by 'toning down our message' or trying to win support from our enemies. I'm not aware that this was the alternative being proposed. Look, activism of any kind involves being something of an asshole, as far as your opponents are concerned. You don't sit down and shut up, you confirm to their norms, and you rudely call out hypocrisy to their face. It doesn't get you liked. But you have to stay on-message. If you give them a single legitimate grievance, a single case of stoopi…
/r/MensRights05/03/12 06:30 AM
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And yes, just ban stupid trolls from That Place. I'd also like to slightly firmer encouragement to tone down the embittered tribalism that pops up from time to time.
/r/MensRights04/03/12 04:36 AM
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I wholeheartedly support a title change. As i said in the other thread: activism means getting aggressive, rocking the boat and getting confrontational; you can't change ingrained injustice and bigotry from within the system's norms. However, the current title just comes across as passive-aggressive and weak. We need to focus on our message, not on other people's reactions to it. Definitely switch to a proactive, not reactive title. Fighting systemic bigotry and discrimination against males sinc…
/r/MensRights04/03/12 04:34 AM
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It does, but "Yeah, look how angry we make them" isn't exactly what you'd call alpha as fuck, now is it?
/r/MensRights04/03/12 03:55 AM
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I've been posting here for ages, and I wholeheartedly agree with the OP. Activism yes, fearless and confrontational where it needs to be, absolutely. You can't get change without rocking the boat and getting a few people wet. But the current title... just comes across as defensive and weak, like a scared, angry kid taunting and cringing at the same time. We can do better.
/r/MensRights04/03/12 03:53 AM
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Eh? I was doing no such thing - it's just that a percentage of people here tend to get a little... assertive... towards people who identify as feminists.
/r/MensRights23/02/12 05:06 AM
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Can we keep it civil and sane-sounding, please? We have a chance to gently persuade someone who sounds open-minded - let's not scare her off, OK?
/r/MensRights23/02/12 02:47 AM
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It's a traditional Yiddish response to stupid hypotheticals, afaik.
/r/MensRights28/01/12 01:13 PM
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And if my grandmother had balls, she'd be my grandfather.
/r/MensRights28/01/12 08:19 AM
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The foreskin is filled with tens of thousands of nerve endings, about as many as there are in a clitoris. That amounts to 1.3 metric fucktons of sensory bandwidth. Not sensitivity per se, but richness of sensation. The foreskin provides a frictionless gliding mechanism that works better than a pint of astroglide, and never dries out. Take a pinch of eyelid/elbow/scrotum skin between thumb and finger, and rub. You notice how there's zero friction on your fingerpads? Same deal with your glans. The…
/r/MensRights27/01/12 12:54 PM
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[citation needed]
/r/MensRights24/01/12 07:10 AM
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Punching someone in the face harms others. Allowing erogenous zones to be seen in public does not. If it's not hurting anyone, why forbid it?
/r/MensRights24/01/12 06:47 AM
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Alternatively, so what if they have a sexual connotation?
/r/MensRights23/01/12 11:10 PM
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I disagree vehemently with your justification for #2. I believe that if men should have to sign for the draft, then so should women, because hell if I'm going to be sent to my death while others are exempt merely for the shape of their genitals
/r/MensRights26/11/11 09:29 PM
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SRS = trolls
/r/MensRights06/11/11 11:17 AM
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As a fairly fervent MR person myself, I actually wouldn't shed a tear at a parent getting repeatedly gang-raped for doing that, regardless of their gender.
/r/MensRights02/11/11 11:43 PM
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Can we name and shame the school that caved on this bullshit, please?
/r/MensRights20/10/11 08:49 AM
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Better still: copy and paste the text of the post, instead of posing a goddamn fucking picture of text.
/r/MensRights11/10/11 05:44 AM
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since it doesn't mutilate or fundamentally alter the function of the body part, it is up to personal choice. (Why) Do you feel circumcision different than this? Because it does
/r/MensRights25/09/11 02:02 AM
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What precisely do I stand to lose?
/r/MensRights19/09/11 03:30 AM
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That's fine. It's also a long way from mandatory, which is what I was objecting to.
/r/MensRights19/09/11 03:21 AM
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I daresay cases of adultery wouldn't be a big problem if partners were presented with daily surveillance reports on each other, too. My relationship is based on trust, by my choice. I choose to assume that my child is my own, and not to call that assumption into question without cause. That's the relationship I want to maintain with my wife and child, and fuck you with something sharp and unsanitary if you try to take it away from me.
/r/MensRights19/09/11 02:44 AM
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Rights, sure. But forcing me into genetic testing does not increase my rights.
/r/MensRights19/09/11 01:23 AM
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Well given that his schtick is blaming the victim, I'm sure it'll fit right in.
/r/MensRights03/08/11 01:59 AM
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Or possibly devote an entire show to exploring double standards wrt violence and denigration across gender lines. Yeah, right.
/r/MensRights22/07/11 02:48 AM
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No, not particularly. The anti-choice movement is not lacking women in its ranks.
/r/MensRights04/07/11 02:21 AM
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Hi. I'd like to explain the concept of analogies to you. You see, when you use an analogy, you are trying to explain how a set of abstract principles affect a given issue, without getting tangled up in the specifics and emotional connotations of the issue itself. That's why you deliberately use something different from the concept you wish to explain, though one equally affected by the principles you wish to illustrate. In this case, the principles being illustrated are voluntary custodianship o…
/r/MensRights04/07/11 02:19 AM
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For which, may they get assfucked to death with a splintery broomstick. Forced pregnancy is the most horrible thing I can imagine. I saw what my wife went through having our son, and to be made to do so against your will... is far worse than rape IMHO.
/r/MensRights04/07/11 01:18 AM
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I hold that he has no such responsibility. Carrying the child to term and retaining custody after birth was her choice. If you toss an apple core into my garden and a seedling sprouts, I have a choice. I can pull it up, or I can water and care for it until it's a sturdy little sapling. At that point, I have another choice: to stick it in a pot and give it to one of the thousands of people who desperately want an apple tree of their own, or to continue to feed and water it. If I make both choices…
/r/MensRights03/07/11 11:49 PM
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Carrying a pregnancy to term is a choice. One person should not be held liable for the choices of another. If people enter into a sexual relationship with the understanding that children were unwanted, then neither person should be able to force the other into parenthood. After all, I imagine most women wouldn't like it if contraception failed (or was sabotaged), and the father got a court order preventing abortion or adoption, forcing them into ongoing parenthood; men don't like this either. If…
/r/MensRights03/07/11 10:33 PM
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Posted this, let's see if it passes moderation. Dammit, you made me sign up to post this. First up, I’m a rabid intactivist, so I wholeheartedly approve the sentiment of this post. However, I’ve got qualms about the approach taken to discussing it here. The OP suggests that the pro-circumcision advocates have their views censored and silenced out of discourse on the subject. This… seems highly counterproductive. It’s easy, after all, to ‘win’ (and this is a battle of ideas, after all, where the …
/r/MensRights01/07/11 01:11 AM
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While it's certainly refreshing, and all support is good support... notice how the first order of business is to prohibit dissenting views? What is it with the feminist movement and the need to censor?
/r/MensRights30/06/11 04:48 PM
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Deliberate destructive alteration of body structures. It's mutilation. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH MY PENIS. It's so terribly important to you that this be true, isn't it?
/r/MensRights24/06/11 02:43 PM
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But that's just it. Nobody is belittling the damn victims. They have had something of value taken from them. It does not 'belittle' the victims of infibulation to call it mutilation; it may not be something they want to hear - but when the alternative is stating that the matter is trivial, and that having most of your genitals missing is just as good and it's really not a big deal... Then I'm sorry, but they are just going to keep hearing it regardless, for I will not condone child sexual abuse …
/r/MensRights21/06/11 11:17 PM
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Nobody does call them freaks. This is a strawman on the OP's part, taken literally - but what he's actually doing is equating calling it mutilation with calling the victims freaks.
/r/MensRights21/06/11 01:04 AM
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But he did. You're not allowed to call it mutilation, nor the people it's done to victims, lest it hurt their feewings. This is how cycles of abuse self-perpetuate.
/r/MensRights21/06/11 12:50 AM
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Gah. I am angry.
/r/MensRights21/06/11 12:42 AM
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You are wrong in this. Very wrong. I would rather lose a finger than my foreskin. Foreskins are awesome. Let me count the ways: Tens of thousands of nerve endings. That's an astounding amount of sensory bandwidth. Those nerve endings include a whole lot of sensitive stretch receptors - as the foreskin moves, it reports a whole lot of positional detail. That's a whole extra kind of sensation we're talking about. Frictionless gliding mechanism. The foreskin isn't just a "piece of skin", it's a tor…
/r/MensRights06/06/11 10:26 AM
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Got to love the scare quotes
/r/MensRights05/06/11 02:02 PM
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Have you ever encountered the concept of "the right to privacy"?
/r/MensRights24/05/11 10:05 PM
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*tips hat*
/r/MensRights07/05/11 11:00 PM
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I fucking love you.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 01:32 AM
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Ooh, I know. There should be mandatory reporting of her email, phone and SMS logs, along with the GPS records from her phone. Because, you see, you have a right to know she's not cheating, without ruining the trust in a relationship. Oh wait. No you don't; that's bullshit. You either trust or you don't. Simple as that. If you want to know for sure, get the test done (and I'm all for having that right). If that upsets your partner, that's between you and her. Because no way in hell will I submit …
/r/MensRights23/04/11 10:21 AM
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Making something mandatory does not increase my rights.
/r/MensRights21/04/11 07:54 AM
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Er, ten years so far, and no itch.
/r/MensRights03/03/11 07:03 AM
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If I want to take on those legal responsibilities, isn't that my choice?
/r/MensRights01/03/11 10:59 PM
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I'm not a woman (look at my posts, ffs), and I'm not a concern troll. I just don't want to submit to mandatory fucking genetic testing, and certainly not in the name of my rights. I will decide which tests I get done, thank you. Not you, not anyone else.
/r/MensRights01/03/11 08:26 AM
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I have no problem with having the right to a paternity test. The right to know, if I care to check up. If I don't want to know, what business is it of anyone else's to make me?
/r/MensRights01/03/11 06:18 AM
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Nice assertion, but can you back it up? How does making it mandatory increase my rights?
/r/MensRights01/03/11 03:45 AM
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Well, that too. I didn't get a pre-nup, either. I married the woman because I trust her.
/r/MensRights01/03/11 03:31 AM
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Um, making me submit to mandatory testing does not further my rights. Give men the right to paternity testing, absolutely. But quite literally force a swab down my throat, and I'll shove it up your urethra. Sideways. If I want to know, I'll ask.
/r/MensRights28/02/11 11:23 PM
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stop shaming men and trying to divide and conquer us I am doing no such thing. Quite the opposite. Being a dudebro isn't bad. Having to be a dudebro is. Prescriptive gender roles and all that bullshit. I'm talking about the guys who cut themselves off from all affection, from all but the most caricatured emotion, who dare not even learn the name of more than six colours, ffs, who dare not be more than a sitcom stereotype, for fear of being 'unmanly'. Just as women get shoehorned into the Madonna…
/r/MensRights28/02/11 11:11 PM
10

It's a lovely little trap. People use the word 'man' to mean 'admirable person', with the implication that if you're not being admirable, you mus be effeminate. Apart from the implication that women can't be admirable people, this comes back to bite people in the ass, because it also implies the relation is commutative: if you don't act like a complete dudebro, you must lack all those admirable qualities like honour and reliability and honest and wtfever else people try to define as 'being a man…
/r/MensRights27/02/11 12:26 PM
2

Well, a foreskin is essential to a penis being mobile. You might dispute that being a defining function of a penis, but then I might dispute that being closed is an essential function of a mouth. The point is, there's sensation and functionality there. It is the owner's right to keep them until they decide otherwise. And again, of course circed-from-birth people are (mostly) satisfied with what they have, just as I'm sure most women would be happy enough with their breasts if they had their nipp…
/r/MensRights24/02/11 06:52 AM
6

Well, no, you're wrong. If I 'see fit' to beat my child bloody, the government can and will to prevent me. I don't have that right. And yes, you have the right to get YOUR OWN appendix removed, sure. Nobody has any problems with competent adults having bits of THEIR OWN bodies removed. But can you tell the difference between that and infant circumcision? The caps are a clue.
/r/MensRights24/02/11 06:47 AM
-1

Um, no. As I said on the link I pointed to, I love having a foreskin. It provides a vast amount (and a whole different kind) of sensation and pleasure, and it acts as a completely frictionless toroidal linear bearing. If you have X, you don't need to experience lacking-X in order to compare the two states. You've never experienced not having lips, but I think you're pretty secure in the knowledge that you wouldn't like it, aren't you? A person without lips, however, has no experience to draw on …
/r/MensRights24/02/11 05:19 AM
1

Read and learn
/r/MensRights23/02/11 08:33 PM
1

Yes, it has affected them negatively. They just have nothing to compare it to.
/r/MensRights23/02/11 08:31 PM
44

You're free to hold whatever beliefs you want. Acting on those beliefs, however, is not protected. You're not free to sacrifice people (even your own children) to the volcano. You're not allowed to let your kids die by denying them medical treatment. You're not allowed to tattoo a cross on their forehead. You're not allowed to stone people for adultery. You're not allowed to do any shit, religious or not, that harms others without their consent. And that's not violating freedom of religion.
/r/MensRights23/02/11 02:17 PM
22

Self-described "civil rights advocates" Yeah, awesome reporting there.
/r/MensRights23/02/11 01:59 PM
2

Just infibulate women, so they won't want to (or be able to) have sex. This will vastly increase their protection, and reduce their role in spreading the virus also. Problem solved. ...no?
/r/MensRights23/02/11 01:19 AM
2

I don't give a shit who uses which bathroom. On the wider issue, inasfar as anyone's sex is ever relevant, they should be treated as the gender they consider themselves to be.
/r/MensRights17/02/11 03:53 AM
1

How am I risking my child's health and happiness by assuming that I'm the bioparent? And besides, sharing DNA doesn't make you a parent.
/r/MensRights16/02/11 10:58 PM
1

Perhaps, but I contend that it is my right to do so if I choose.
/r/MensRights16/02/11 08:24 PM
-1

Or not, and I could just trust my wife, at my discretion.
/r/MensRights16/02/11 12:59 PM
-4

Meh, I don't want mandatory paternity testing. Make it a person's right to confirm paternity, if they're paying child support - and tighten up the law to ensure you can't be forced to pay for a child that isn't even yours. I just don't see a reason to make it mandatory.
/r/MensRights15/02/11 11:46 PM
6

I don't know if you're an idiot or just a troll. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and call you an idiot. Let's first examine the false notion that we don't know what we are missing. ... Do you have two penises, one cut and one uncut? Have you spent years studying the difference in the feeling between the two? No, you haven't. ... You can't tell me uncut feels better because you don't have a fucking clue. You've just contradicted yourself. First you say that you do know what you're missing…
/r/MensRights01/02/11 12:23 AM
3

Because irreversible decisions should generally be last-resort, until you're well into middle age. For the longest time, I never wanted kids. Much later, I did - and as a very happy dad, I'm incredibly glad I left my options open.
/r/MensRights31/01/11 02:25 AM
2

I don't see why this is downvoted. Very nice summation.
/r/MensRights31/01/11 01:50 AM
5

Just send them here
/r/MensRights31/01/11 12:46 AM
5

Ha. Yes it was. Fuckers.
/r/MensRights27/01/11 10:51 AM
2

No they're not, I just commented. (Jean)
/r/MensRights27/01/11 05:47 AM
2

If you're not a troll, read and learn
/r/MensRights23/01/11 08:31 AM
5

I'm a strong MRA, and this kind of misogynistic bullshit is harming the movement. What the fuck, dude?
/r/MensRights22/01/11 02:05 AM
3

Do not feed the troll, guys.
/r/MensRights17/01/11 12:21 AM
1

I see the problem with feminism as being just like the problem with Zionism. A group of people were, since time immemorial, marginalized second-class citizens, oppressed, mocked and horribly abused, to the point that this became their traditional role in the culture, institutionalised, taken for granted and almost invisible. At some point in recent history, members of that group finally said 'enough', and set out to shake up the status quo, carving out a place for themselves in the public eye, r…
/r/MensRights15/01/11 12:47 PM
21

Bayesian fucking fallacy again. A|B =/> B|A "Most rapists are men" DOES NOT IMPLY "Most men are rapists", or anything close to it.
/r/MensRights07/12/10 02:17 AM
24

Thank you. That was bothering me, too. I won't sit by while anyone else is smugly shut down. There's no honour in that. What matters is the zero-sum part - that even if women got the shitty end of the stick on a hundred different issues, and men only got it on ten, that in no way justifies or excuses those ten. (these arent the actual numbers, but no matter) Two wrongs do not make a right, and injustices do not cancel each other out. Such a world doesn't have 90 injustices, it has 110.
/r/MensRights29/11/10 01:25 PM
25

Absolutely. all -normative behaviours box people in. Straight guy here. I can't say I've had many specific encounters personally, but then I've led a fairly isolated life, socially. But yes - there's an awful lot of restriction and anxiety in inter-male behaviour. You can't ever be sad or hurt - only angry. You can't extend comfort or affection towards another guy, except via humorous taunting / rivalry / aggression (eg play-fighting), unless you're very, very drunk. You have to do this kind of.…
/r/MensRights16/11/10 01:26 AM
2

I thought I remembered a little green sweater - no biggie though.
/r/MensRights02/11/10 03:13 AM
15

It does look awful. Images of text are generally bad to begin with, and these wreck the layout to boot. (and dude, the font and margins on that image are not brilliant). I'd much rather just have the awesome little sweaterdude back, and put stuff you want people to read back over on the right.
/r/MensRights02/11/10 02:24 AM
1

Kudos to you, sir. It's people like you that make it all worth it. You just made my whole month.
/r/MensRights29/10/10 01:54 PM
44

Feminism is the name for the gender equality movement, just like White Power is the name for the racial equality movement. A plague on both their houses. I'm a militant egalitarian.
/r/MensRights16/10/10 10:23 AM
1

Because it seems like a reasonable border around the cases where it's a genuine fuckup.
/r/MensRights04/10/10 01:51 AM
2

Men should have the option to refuse financial responsibility for an unwanted child, under fairly specific conditions: They made clear their intent not to breed They either used or were assured of contraception (or engaged exclusively in non-vaginal sex, etc) They make no claim to access, custody or any other parental rights. The sex was fully consensual. I absolutely do NOT believe the father should have any say over what the woman does with her body. She can abort it, adopt it or keep it, and …
/r/MensRights03/10/10 11:14 PM
1

In the third case, the woman has the option to adopt. If she wants to keep it, that's her choice - but one she can make on her own dime. Obviously, any claim to parental rights on the part of the father would invalidate any claim to a 'financial abortion', and I have no problem with his paying half the costs associated with the pregnancy.
/r/MensRights01/10/10 03:53 PM
3

That's a risk and a choice women knowingly take - but tell them 'ha ha, should have kept it in your pants', and you'll get quite rightly lynched.
/r/MensRights01/10/10 03:50 PM
0

Answer: don't fuck strangers if you don't want to be a mother. Tell a woman that, and everyone in the room will (quite rightly) punch you in the face. Telling a man the equivalent is no better.
/r/MensRights01/10/10 03:49 PM
30

Doesn't matter. Being able to opt-out of unwanted parenthood has rightly been hailed as a major step forward in the rights of women. They're now free to have the sex life of their choice, without having their lives ruined by a simple slip-up. This is a very good thing. Everyone should have this opportunity. Including men.
/r/MensRights01/10/10 07:12 AM
1

Tell that to the woman.
/r/MensRights01/10/10 05:24 AM
1

How would you feel about a charity specifically devoted to helping third-world boys gain access to education?
/r/MensRights01/10/10 12:28 AM
-1

Read again. You know that a woman with nipples can get more pleasure than a woman without. You can easily imagine the experience minus the pleasure due to nipple play, and so judge quite accurately what they'd be missing. By the same token, yes I can know that I get more pleasure than a man without a foreskin. Also, I can keep the damn thing pulled back, and experience the 'joy' of friction-only stimulation. And I tell you now, it's shit.
/r/MensRights30/09/10 03:32 PM
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If contraception fails, a woman, a woman can abort. Or, if she carries it to term but doesn't want to raise it, she can adopt it out - or (in some jurisdictions) even just abandon it at the hospital, no questions asked. If contraception fails, men have no choices whatsoever. If the mother chooses to keep it, they are obligated to pay child support. Obviously they should have no say in whether the mother carries and/or keeps the child herself - it's her body and her choice. But by the same token,…
/r/MensRights30/09/10 03:14 PM
23

Do you hate women? Not in the slightest. Did you develop your views because you've been burned in the past? Nope. Do you believe that men are passive because they don't want to anger women which would lead to a lack of sex? Huh? What would you change? Well, I'd dismantle the notion that feminism is pro-equality. A pro-X movement is a not a balance-X-and-Y movement, even if Y currently outweighs X. Think, ferinstance, how Zionism has co-opted the concept of 'antisemitism' to cover anything opposi…
/r/MensRights30/09/10 09:33 AM
3

Bunch of problems with this post. It's not that being intact necessarily makes orgasms better. It's that it makes getting there more fun. It's like the difference between able to stroke and fondle with your entire hand, instead of just one fingertip. And yes, it's easy for an intact guy to know what a cut guy is missing. We just take the pleasure we derive from the sensitivity and mobility of the foreskin, and subtract the overall pleasure. Imagine someone told you they were fine with having the…
/r/MensRights30/09/10 05:49 AM
3

With a 2cm penis, being out by a millimetre is a disaster. With a 15cm penis, you could be out by a few mm before it mattered. There's more wiggle room, aka margin for error.
/r/MensRights29/09/10 11:55 PM
5

Those studies were highly flawed. But even taken at face value... mastectomy prevents breast cancer, too.
/r/MensRights29/09/10 11:58 AM
1

ow, buggery. Okay, no offense, but it sounds like your paediatrician knew not whereof he spoke. If you're describing what I think you're describing, that structure is called the frenulum. It's meant to remain intact - and it really ought to have been repaired when it broke. It's like the thing under your top lip. It's the most sensitive part of the penis, and is full of stretch receptors - it provides a whole lot of sensation as it stretched back and forth. Although I can't be certain - if it we…
/r/MensRights29/09/10 11:56 AM
6

It depends how long your foreskin is. Also no, if you're like most of us, you masturbate without friction, so the lack of friction with a condom will likely be less of a deal. But yes, condoms suck regardless.
/r/MensRights29/09/10 08:25 AM
5

Try something for me - I think I know how to make your own foreskin simulator. Cut both ends off a condom, giving a simple latex tube. Thread it on a broomstick or anything wide enough to hold it in place. Turn the bottom up like a trouser cuff, half an inch below the top. Using an eyedropper or syringe, put a few drops of lube into the pocket thus created. Run a line of superglue around the turned-up edge, and fold the top down over it to make a fillet join. You should now have a toroidal linea…
/r/MensRights29/09/10 08:20 AM
19

Same goes for labia. But you don't go cutting those off.
/r/MensRights29/09/10 07:50 AM
12

No, you did not circumcise yourself. Here's the deal. At birth, the foreskin is fused to the glans, like a nail to the nailbed. Over time - and usually by about 4 years old - the skin un-fuses. However, it can take substantially longer in some boys, for no particular reason. Very likely this was the case with you. Now, another thing that can vary is the length of the foreskin. In some people, it can 'turtleneck' closed over the glans, in others it sits about half-mast, or even less. What I suspe…
/r/MensRights29/09/10 07:48 AM
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Hell fucking no, don't do it. I would rather lose a finger than my foreskin. First up: it's not yours. It's his. Bodily integrity is a human right. Imposing cosmetic surgery on non-consenting infants is not. Second, foreskins are awesome. Let me count the ways: Tens of thousands of nerve endings. That's an astounding amount of sensory bandwidth. Those nerve endings include a whole lot of sensitive stretch receptors - as the foreskin moves, it reports a whole lot of positional detail. That's a wh…
/r/MensRights29/09/10 05:45 AM
2

How should the demographics affect your position? I don't quite see what you're aiming for, here.
/r/MensRights16/09/10 01:22 AM
5

What the hell does 'consent' have to do with it? Why the hell are they performing an elective procedure except at the explicit request of the parents? (not that I think parents should have the right to request it, of course...) Seriously. When is a woman going to go in with a broken leg and come out with a hysterectomy because they 'misread a consent form'?
/r/MensRights14/09/10 01:37 PM
2

As I see it, marriage isn't an awesome conduit to bliss, or the sine qua non of loving relationships. It's not a convenient tax dodge. It isn't a trap. (though it can indeed be used as one). It's a formal process of merging families - like a kind of mutual lateral adoption. Not just in the legal sense, it's a social function. Not just family in the sense of inheritance and custody, family in the sense of running into a burning building to rescue someone, or palliative care. That's the part that'…
/r/MensRights14/09/10 12:52 AM
2

So wear a fucking burqa, problem solved.
/r/MensRights09/09/10 01:22 AM
10

Godalfuckingmighty, the Bayesian Fallacy gets old. Most X are Y does not imply that most Y are X, or anywhere close to it. One hundred percent of Adolph Hitlers were short. What percentage of short people are Adolph Hitler?
/r/MensRights31/08/10 05:01 AM
0

Just play this from your cubicle.
/r/MensRights26/08/10 07:15 AM
3

I initialliy wackyparsed your username as inigomontoya. Which is pretty funny, because "you keep using that word... "
/r/MensRights15/08/10 04:39 PM
2

Meh, 'they' serves in the vast majority of cases.
/r/MensRights15/08/10 12:43 PM
2

I think so, when you're referring to a general rather than a specific person. "If a someone kills a dragon, he should be rewarded." You've just prescribed dragon-killer as a male role. You might not even notice it in an individual case, but spread it over an entire culture, and it will both follow and entrench cultural expectations regarding gender roles. If you want to change the cultural expectations, you need to stop doing that.
/r/MensRights15/08/10 01:48 AM
2

Well if that's the case, why are gender-neutral pronouns important?
/r/MensRights15/08/10 12:32 AM
2

Is there a reason we can't drop feminism, masculism, blackism, and in fact <group>ism in general, and just take up egalitarianism? Seriously. People should be equal. When and where they are not being treated equally, we should speak up.
/r/MensRights14/08/10 10:56 PM
2

So, an X-ist is someone who stands for equal advocacy of X and not-X? Shall we try it? Capitalist: One who holds that there should be an equal admixture of privately- and communally-owned resources. Communist: One who holds that there should be an equal admixture of privately- and communally-owned resources. Racist: One who advocates racial equality. Optimist: One who advocates the neutral interpretation of circumstances. Atheist: One who believe there may or may not be a god. Anarchist: Onewho …
/r/MensRights14/08/10 10:52 PM
3

If the mother chooses to carry the pregnancy to term, that's fair enough - but she still has the option to adopt the baby out at birth, and wash her hands of any future responsibility for it. If women have an out, so should men.
/r/MensRights23/07/10 09:26 AM
1

If the father intended to conceive a child, or agreed to be a parent prior to conception, then I don't see that he should be able to back out. It's only in cases where you opt-out ahead of time that this should apply, IMHO.
/r/MensRights23/07/10 09:23 AM
9

Why is a word for sexual equality named after one sex in particular?
/r/MensRights23/07/10 08:51 AM
3

Hey, thanks! :)
/r/MensRights23/07/10 05:28 AM
18

Oh, I agree that the father should get no say regarding abortion. Her body, her choice. It's just that if she chooses to carry the child to term, the father shouldn't be forced to pay for that choice, if he previously opted out.
/r/MensRights23/07/10 03:44 AM
29

Right - but if she doesn't want to pay for raising a child, she can abort or adopt at her whim. Men on the other hand get no say - they're subject entirely to the choice of the mother on this issue. This is blatantly unfair. One person should not be liable for the free choice of another.
/r/MensRights23/07/10 01:56 AM
24

Hey, I really don't want kids. If we fuck up and you get pregnant, I want no part of it, okay? Sure. Great! *sex* *fuckup* Hey honey, I'm pregnant. I've decided that I'm going to keep it, and that you're going to pay for it. Have a nice life.
/r/MensRights23/07/10 12:59 AM
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The problem as I see it isn't that the pendulum has swung too far. There are still plenty of areas where women get the shitty end of the stick. It's that the areas in which women have gained advantage are unrelated to the ones in which they were formerly disadvantaged. Women lose on income, but win on custody. Women lose on objectification, but win on medical research. Women lose on political influence, but win on reproductive rights. Rinse and repeat. Instead of injustices being halved, they're…
/r/MensRights23/07/10 12:19 AM
8

She was named in parliament. Why wasn't she named in the article?
/r/MensRights15/07/10 01:59 PM
7

Indeed to all three - but that wasn't what I asked.
/r/MensRights15/07/10 05:31 AM
10

The government paid him compensation, but billed him £12,500 for his 'bed and board' while he was in prison. The rules say if someone is wrongly jailed, they must pick up the bill. Seems to me he should be able to sue her for that amount.
/r/MensRights15/07/10 05:06 AM
12

Do they call advocacy of racial equality 'blackism'?
/r/MensRights05/07/10 07:20 AM
1

Um, no. p(P|M) =0.00018, not even twice the base rate.
/r/MensRights25/06/10 06:14 AM
1

No, it does not equal nine times the risk. You are completely and utterly wrong, on the most fundamental level. Go and read about Bayes' theorem.
/r/MensRights25/06/10 05:02 AM
3

Congratulations, you've just articulated the argument for every kind of bigotry on the planet. "Yes, I'm sure you're one of the good ones, but..." Seriously, fuck you.
/r/MensRights25/06/10 03:24 AM
4

Here's the thing. The incident by itself - being asked to change seats - sounds harmless in itself. Oh, it's no big deal, just a seat, not enslavement, so why all the fuss? I bet they said that to Rosa Parkes, too. While people accede to prejudice like this, they're strengthening and validating that prejudice in the public perception. They're accepting the mantle of likely paedophile, not just for themselves, but for every man. And next time a man wants custody of his kids, it's going to be that…
/r/MensRights25/06/10 02:30 AM
2

Well, a more direct analogy would be a person of said ethnicity having a security escort two paces behind them at all times, and not letting them get near anything too expensive. "I'm sorry sir, we have a policy against letting black men handle gold watches... if you'd like to return to the sweatshirt department instead?" And yes, there have been cases of children being molested on planes. But though they chose to demonize everyone of the molester's gender in response, I can see no equally fitti…
/r/MensRights25/06/10 02:00 AM
3

Yeah, like the time that department store got robbed by a black dude. We obviously can't take that risk again, so it's whites-only now.
/r/MensRights25/06/10 01:40 AM
3

So basically, "mysterious ways"? Yeah. Well, look, there's a very good reason you should pay me $5,000 right now, no questions asked. There's a deal of complexity about it that you don't really know about that makes it necessary.
/r/MensRights25/06/10 01:38 AM
11

Also, let's also look at crime rates by ethnicity. Shall we proactively ban people from establishments because of their race, "just to be on the safe side"? After all, you can't be too careful.
/r/MensRights25/06/10 12:07 AM
11

Bayesian fallacy. p(A|B) != p(B|A) Just because the majority of child molesters might be male, doesn't mean the majority of males are child molesters. Let's do the math, shall we? Let's be scary, and say there's a 1:1000 chance that a given person is a paedophile: p(P) =0.001 And let's be generous, and say there's a 9:10 chance of a person being a man, if they are a paedophile: p(M|P) = 0.9 Let us be lazy, and assume an even sex distribution - a 1:1 chance of a person being a man: p(M) = 0.5 Now…
/r/MensRights25/06/10 12:06 AM
5

Heh, the Bayesian fallacy. P(A|B) ≠ P(B|A), but try telling people that.
/r/MensRights21/06/10 03:27 PM
1

Just replace "partner" with "nigger" in the section you quoted, and see if it passes the smell test.
/r/MensRights17/06/10 02:30 PM
1

No. These are women who are being abuse by specific members of a group. Specific people - husbands, fathers, boyfriends, etc. The fact that one specific man abuses you does not make it any more likely at all that another man will do so, just as being abused by one particular black person does not make it more likely that another black person will abuse you. Excluding all black people, or all men, on the assumption that they are more likely to abuse... is astoundingly offensive and degrading.
/r/MensRights17/06/10 01:29 PM
1

So? Would you support a temporary shelter for people frightened of homosexuals, where only straight people were ever allowed in?
/r/MensRights17/06/10 12:47 AM
3

But were the women targets of violence simply for being women? (as would be the case with racially-motivated violence) And no, let's not make it 'more culturally palatable'. Someone got beaten up by their partner, and now wants to be kept segregated from all Jews Catholics Black people Asians Gays like them, because any of those might beat them up too, and they can't take the risk. Ferinstance The answer would be 'No. Fuck off, you bigoted little shit.' But oh, men... oh, that's different.
/r/MensRights13/06/10 05:49 PM
3

Why just segregate on sexual lines, though? As I said in that thread, what if you swapped women/men with white/black? Would people be fine with that?
/r/MensRights12/06/10 10:34 AM
1

Er, no. On the houses of the feminists and the masculists alike.
/r/MensRights26/05/10 10:40 PM
2

As I've said before: Fuck feminism. Fuck masculism. If it's about what sex a person is, you're doing it wrong. People have countered injustice, inequity and hate on one side with injustice, inequity and hate on the other. This makes the world a worse place, not a better one. Advocacy of one side's interests cannot be advocacy of equality, even if those interests are currently disadvantaged. All you get is built-in overcompensation locked in forever and tainted with the stink of righteousness. It…
/r/MensRights26/05/10 03:48 AM
5

I salute you, sir. If the hospital seems the least bit reluctant to leave him intact, find a senior member of nursing staff, and explain that your baby is coming home with his foreskin or their eyelids, and ensuring it's the former is now their problem.
/r/MensRights18/05/10 11:56 PM
2

Erm. You've got the sense of that inverted. As an infant, the surgeon can be off by a tenth of a millimetre without botching it. As an adult, the surgeon can be off by a whole millimetre. He has more margin for error.
/r/MensRights22/04/10 02:00 PM
92

Hell fucking no, don't do it. I would rather lose a finger than my foreskin. First up: it's not yours. It's his. Bodily integrity is a human right. Imposing cosmetic surgery on non-consenting infants is not. Second, foreskins are awesome. Let me count the ways: Tens of thousands of nerve endings. That's an astounding amount of sensory bandwidth. Those nerve endings include a whole lot of sensitive stretch receptors - as the foreskin moves, it reports a whole lot of positional detail. That's a wh…
/r/MensRights21/04/10 04:26 AM
1

Sensitivity is a misleading term in this context. Think bandwidth. 10,000 nerve endings are no more able to detect a given stimulus than 1,000 are. However, given a stimulus that both are able to detect, the 10,000 nerve endings will be able to report a whole lot more information on that stimulus. Basically, we've got blu-ray, you've got youtube. Yeah, yours might come close to ours in brightness - but that's hardly the point.
/r/MensRights01/04/10 06:55 AM
4

Just think of feminism. Women have historically got a spectacularly shitty deal - and in many ways, they still do. Something needed (and needs) to be done. However, the approach that was taken meant that in fixing some of the problems, new and different problems were created - thus the whole MR issue. If we do the same thing on the other side, if we counter misandry with misogyny, we'll just polarize everything further. If you're stuck in a ballpit of red-hot marbles, the solution is not to stir…
/r/MensRights23/02/10 09:36 PM
3

I'm posting in MR because the thread's in MR. I'm reading MR because I'm subscribed to it, and I'm subscribed to it because I care passionately about the issues that come up here. I just think that circling the wagons, going all adversarial and zero-sum about it all... is the wrong approach. Take some hypothetical ethnic group that gets discriminated against and denigrated in society, to the degree that men do. Yes, absolutely, a big stink needs to be made about it each and every time it happens…
/r/MensRights23/02/10 03:09 PM
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I know full well how men are portrayed in the media, and it's fucking disgusting. No arguments there, nosiree. In some aspects of society, we get a shitty, shitty deal - and I continue to campaign against it where it pops up. And in some aspects, women get a shitty deal. And in some, it's black people, or muslims, or atheists, or Asians, or short people, or GLBTQKs, or, or, or. That's the thing. Promoting the interests of one specific in-group as a virtue in and of itself is wildly counterproduc…
/r/MensRights23/02/10 07:23 AM
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Fuck feminism. Fuck masculism. If gender comes into it, you're doing it wrong. That's why I'm a militant egalitarian.
/r/MensRights23/02/10 02:50 AM
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Oh, um. Demonization, not demonetization. Demonetization is what happens to a man when he gets divorced ;-)
/r/MensRights08/02/10 02:28 AM
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There's a percentage of nasty misogynists hiding behind MR, just as as there's a percentage of nasty misandrists hiding behind feminism. Everyone wishes they'd just go away. Historically, the only way to raise awareness about insidious cultural issues is to be an intolerant asshole - make a big stink about even trivial instances of it, and complain loudly and obnoxiously until people are able to at least see it. Think of 70s radical feminism, Germain Greer, etc. Misandrist garbage needs to be ca…
/r/MensRights07/02/10 11:41 PM
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heh, note 'wanting to'... :p
/r/MensRights02/02/10 01:08 PM
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Because yes, there's trauma, and yes, there's disasters.. but they're about 10% of the point. The point is that foreskins are awesome. They have a whole lot of nerve endings, and provide a massive amount of sensation, including highly detailed positional information when the skin stretches as it rolls over the glans with each stroke. The frenulum is even more exquisitely sensitive, and the tug it gets at the end of each stroke is... well, it's awesome. Like I said in another post: the difference…
/r/MensRights02/02/10 06:26 AM
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Well, some women can orgasm without a clitoris, actually. Not to defend it in the slightest, however. And indeed, FGM was practiced in developed countries disturbingly recently. But yes, I'm entirely happy drawing a comparison between the two procedures. People cut important bits off their kids' genitals, ffs. And in the case of MGM, they actually remove more total nerve endings, including all the stretch receptors (and anything to be stretched) that provide detailed proprioception (kinaesthetic…
/r/MensRights02/02/10 06:06 AM
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There's plenty of uproar. It's just unpopular uproar. It's not just the trauma - though it is a big issue, and can do bad things to neural development. The point is that a part of your body with tens of thousands of nerve endings - more than are in the clitoris, in fact - that provides protection for the glans (keeping it soft and sensitive) and a frictionless gliding mechanism, is removed without consent. Imagine waking up to discover your lips had been cut off. Women (at least in civilized cou…
/r/MensRights02/02/10 03:31 AM
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I know why they are. I get that. It's only human. Just the same as if someone were repeatedly threatened / traumatized / etc by members of a given ethnic/religious/etc group, it's perfectly understandable that they'd develop a degree of prejudice against all members of that group. It's just that while you might cut a person some slack for feeling this way... it's quite another thing to actually condone it. A Vietnam vet might well have some pretty horrible memories, and be prejudiced against all…
/r/MensRights02/02/10 12:30 AM
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No, any more than I want to hear someone recount their individual experiences with some ethnic group as a justification for racism.
/r/MensRights31/01/10 10:57 PM
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The point about egalitarianism is that it doesn't matter if a given group has a higher incidence of X. Statistical observations do not apply to individual instances, and so treating any given individual as though they are X - without empirically determining it - is Bad and Wrong. You treat people equally, regardless. Yes, it's hard to do. But the payoff for society as a whole is worth it.
/r/MensRights28/01/10 12:20 AM
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Since when does "predator" imply rape, btw?
/r/MensRights27/01/10 11:58 PM
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Read the title of the post. "To the men of reddit who cross the street" Not the people of reddit. Not that one particular guy. She addresses men, specifically and in the plural, both in the title and in the post. "So thank you, kind sirs". So no. You are wrong. It's completely about our gender.
/r/MensRights27/01/10 11:55 PM
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Um, I don't give a flying fuck whether you fear rape, mugging or a custard pie in the face. If you assume I am a threat simply because I have a penis, you can fuck off. Now, if it were people who cross the street in order to show they aren't following you, that'd be a completely different proposition. But no, it was very specifically directed at men who do it, and that's incredibly bloody bigoted.
/r/MensRights27/01/10 04:35 AM
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No, that's an unfair interpretation. You don't need to make it worse than it really is. It's bad enough as it stands. Female thanks men for acknowledging that most men are predators, and avoiding women to reduce the stress their presence causes. Perhaps as another friendly gesture, we can walk around in handcuffs and chastity belts to show that our intentions are not evil. In fact, I might go make that point.
/r/MensRights26/01/10 12:39 PM
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Here's a nice example: an ad a while back (I forget what it was for) featuring a woman preparing food and talking about her husband's unseemly displays of interest in other women. It ended with her viciously slicing the end off a french loaf, meant to represent cutting his dick off as punishment. Big joke ha ha. Now imagine the response had the ad featuring a man viciously digging out or sewing up some appropriately-shaped thing, as a response to his wife's wandering eye...
/r/MensRights18/12/09 11:56 PM
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But how do they know? If they can determine the guilt of the remaining 94%, why can't the courts?
/r/MensRights18/12/09 11:44 PM
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Historically, there has been vast injustice disadvantaging women. Attempts to rectify this have had some small success (not nearly enough), but have also generated large amounts of new injustice disadvantaging men, resulting in a large net loss overall. Women get screwed over in many walks of life by men, and men get screwed over in many others by women. And bugger that for a game of soldiers. We certainly don't need to back to the bad old days, when women were chattel, with no legal or social s…
/r/MensRights18/12/09 02:13 PM
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What always shocks me is the number of people who simply have no idea how the foreskin even works - they think it's a simple 'flap of skin', and have no idea it's at all mobile, let alone being a frictionless toroidal linear bearing. They just don't understand what's at stake. The model of a too-long shirt sleeve turned in on itself and glued to your watch is the easiest way I've found to explain it.
/r/MensRights18/12/09 12:21 PM
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Totally awesome thread. I have little in the way of hard data to contribute, but I do want to appluad your approach and attitude. My hobbyhorse issue is circumcision, as has been mentioned. Apart from the fact that it happens so much (thankfully not nearly so much here in Australia as in the US), look at the underlying attitudes towards it. In the case of a bris, people make a fucking party out of the occasion complete with drinks and nibblies. Imagine that, if you will, with a girl as the victi…
/r/MensRights17/12/09 01:48 PM
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Interesting question. If you are not competent to decide for yourself whether or not to do X, it would seem a reasonable inference that you cannot be held accountable for making that decision. When X = "have sex with someone", it opens up a can of worms bigger than merely statutory rape. Hm.
/r/MensRights02/12/09 11:26 PM
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