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I thought TRP was an amoral sexual strategy , not "science". Is making a fire "science"? Being dogmatic when you have no solid proof is kinda silly thoough. I'm dogmatic that lighting a fire is better than shivering in the rain.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 02:37 AM
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What's the point of trying to make a fire when you don't understand physics?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 02:27 AM
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But it's women's fault when they are stupid. If you say so, bro. I'm of the mindset that men need to look out for themselves. Bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks, so don't put a ring on her pudgy little paw.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 02:25 AM
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Pickup cares about what. Red pill cares about what and why.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 02:21 AM
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Why are men so stupid? I suspect that there's a heavy biological incentive for white knighting/pedestalization/cap'n save-a-hoe behavior in men, much like the complementary behavior of branch swinging/hypergamy/AFBB in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 02:19 AM
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I'm sure that you can make up a hypothetical where it makes sense. Other than wacky outliers and wild hypotheticals, marriage is a bad deal for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 01:57 AM
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Don't shit where you eat. Don't fuck women you work with. Period. Don't even ask, none of the veterans here are going to give you the go-ahead. The only ones who will should shut the fuck up and lurk more. No piece of ass is worth risking your livelihood, whether you're a barista or an executive.
/r/askTRP01/06/15 01:34 AM
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/r/altTRP
/r/askTRP31/05/15 11:19 PM
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Historically, marriage has been an institution where men take ownership of women's bodies. History is in the past. We're speaking of the present, where marriage gives men zero benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 06:51 PM
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How Do I Introduce My Bro/Friend to The Red Pill? You don't. You are not a missionary. You are not a sales rep. TRP does not need you forcing the pill down somebody's throat. TRP can only be internalized by those who want to wake up. This usually comes as a result of heartbreak or extreme disappointment. Some guys will wake up eventually. Others will continue to ignore the truth because they can't handle it. The best you can do is to represent TRP by being an example. Improve, learn, approach, a…
/r/askTRP31/05/15 06:20 PM
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it's tough to just make a change like that. You know what else is tough? Putting up two plates on bench. Losing 100 pounds of fat. Getting blown out rejected in public time after time after time. Change is hard. Blaming your problems on your name is easy. I guess another thing holding me from doing that is dealing with documents and people seeing me write Joy when I say my name is Jay. What fucking documents are chicks you're looking to bang going to see you signing? It just seems sorta fake and…
/r/askTRP31/05/15 06:06 PM
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Will women like me less? If you spend your time worrying that women won't like you because of reasons like this, then yes, because that lack of confidence will show through in your everyday interactions with them. Look at this dude. He's a delusional almost-30 musician in a garage band on public assistance. Now check out the chick bopping along at the 6:00 mark in the video. You know why that piece of prime pussy is hanging out with this loser? Because he's full of confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 05:59 PM
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this is the response i received yesterday; https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/37ukyo/unlikely_fclose_fr/crq4rks Read the responses: He could not have eaten her out then cuddled, that doesn't work (if he wants to get laid later). This is because in many ways cuddling is actually more intimate than sex, and he did not have the rapport with this girl to cross that intimacy threshold. By cuddling too soon you come across as "relationshippy" and clingy, which is the last thing this girl is l…
/r/askTRP31/05/15 05:50 PM
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You're not a literal boy named Sue, but if your name causes you a lack of confidence, why not adopt a nickname? "Hi, my name's Jay". It's not like you're signing a mortgage with these people. Just call yourself Jay.
/r/askTRP31/05/15 05:43 PM
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A plywood shack is a home, just not a very impressive one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 11:03 PM
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If I didn't have a desire for women I'd gladly live in a plywood shack (with large detached shop), eat beans and bacon, and grow rank hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 10:47 PM
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Me? Absolutely not. The legal risk of marriage is far too great for me to get hitched.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 10:46 PM
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Speaking as a man and thus an expert in the topic I can tell you that sex is infinitely more desirable to men than housework.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 10:03 PM
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If Anita's degree taught her how to game marks then it isn't useless. If her degree didn't teach her to game marks then Anita isn't topical to the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 09:58 PM
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Again, did "gender studies" teach her this or is she just a natural opportunist fleecing suckers? That's the question here, because the answer to that will help determine if your answer supports your premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 09:56 PM
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What I'd like to see hashed out is a more objective and definitive idea of what makes a man genuinely ugly to women. Looks, Money, Status, Game are the big four of male attractiveness. You can have a face that scares children and still bag a decent woman, if you have enough money, status, and game. You can be a crippled dwarf and still bag a decent woman, if you have enough money, status, and game. Stop obsessing about your face. It isn't the dominant item in male attraction. Work on getting jac…
/r/askTRP30/05/15 09:55 PM
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Did "gender studies" in college or wherever get her there, or was it her own work that she put in producing stuff that people want to buy? Before you answer that she doesn't produce shit, consider that her money comes from somewhere and the people that give it to her are getting values of some kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 09:45 PM
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One observation that I'd make about TRP is that it produces useful results in the real world. Results are more important to me than methodology, so I'm not worried about the empiricism behind them. Not being familiar with "gender studies", can you tell me if it offers the same sort of results to the people that study it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 09:42 PM
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[...] you literally provided a fantasy on the subject of rape. [...] I'd originally contemplated writing some antierotica about enthusiastic consent, but then I realized that would be off topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 08:57 PM
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Let me be clear: I'm sure that you aren't six foot eight inches tall because such a height is an extreme outlier for a woman. Likewise I'm sure that you don't like weak men because such a preference is an extreme outlier for a woman. I've never held a yardstick up to you or watched who you open your legs for, but I'm sure of both of those two conclusions, for the same reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 08:47 PM
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I can assure you that I'm not joking that I have fantasies like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 08:37 PM
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Same way that I'm sure that you aren't six foot, eight inches tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 08:32 PM
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are you saying that women can't love the way men do? Women can't love men the way that men want to be loved. Men want caritas, as Ian Ironwood explains. That's a long read and slow to get started, but worth it for the discussion of nurturing love (caritas). As he also explains, this is difficult for a woman to provide, and it's certainly impossible for her to provide in the amounts that men could consume. It's best for both men and women if men abandon hope of this kind of love. Also, and not co…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 08:31 PM
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There's a difference between showing weakness and being weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 08:11 PM
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You want a man who will be vulnerable to you, but not weak. Genuine with his feelings but not needy. Kind and loving but still masculine. You want him to be a person that you respect, that you can look up to. There's nothing there that TRP or RPW would disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 05:53 PM
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You must also understand too that saying things like "bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks" and other similarly rough, raw, unvarnished, intentionally brutal things will make people think that you are angry at women. Some people who post to TRP are angry and some people who post to TRP hate women. Most of them will get over both of those with time, and come to an acceptance of the realities of the sexual marketplace. Consider a second meaning of "bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks" - not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 05:50 PM
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No one says that you have to or even that you ought to. Whatever your course of action you will do better if your choices are informed by the reality of the sexual marketplace, and not based on delusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 05:26 PM
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I will try to love people on my own terms and I will reject the selfish lifestyle Loving people on your own terms is by definition selfish. Your terms may not be malign, but they are your own terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 05:21 PM
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Individuals can and do choose to go against their nature. But by and large, the great mass of people act in accordance with their nature. AWALT, unless you as a man want to get burned to a cinder by womens' wiles and ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 05:18 PM
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What's the point Sex feels good. Companionship, intimacy, affection, all feel good. They satisfy very deep and very fundamental needs in us all. Who wants to live like this ? Again we draw the analogy to The Matrix, specifically the scene after Neo is awakened and everyone is sitting down to eat. Who would choose such an existence - sitting in the cold, dressed in rags, eating room temperature gruel? Answer is that it wasn't chosen, at least not chosen for those reasons. No one "wanted" it, it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 05:16 PM
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I think it's unfair for people to expect others to love them for who they are. Again I would substitute "stupid". I've moved beyond "fair" and "unfair". Then I believed that I would be able to find a guy to love me for who I am You can, as long as 'who you are' is sufficiently attractive to him to keep him around. This kind of thing is devastating for some people , why should we keep giving them false hopes. Because it isn't my responsibility to fix another person. I have enough troubles fixing …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 05:08 PM
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Women view men as disposable while men are supposed to love them sacrificially . How is that fair ? How is it fair that a baby bunny rabbit gets eaten by a hawk? Answer is that Mother Nature doesn't care about fair. It's also the answer to your question. It's advantageous for reproduction for women to treat men as appliances and for men to pedestalize women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 05:05 PM
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In the end, pragmatically.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 05:02 PM
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And it isn't like shooting heroin once will immediately make you addicted forever. But it's a walk down a slippery slope, to the point that it isn't worth the risk. Stay away from needles, kids. Likewise the best course of action is to assume that a show of weakness will cause her to bail, so never show weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 05:01 PM
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No, because it's a useful fiction. If a woman tells me that she loves me, I see no reason to give her a snotty lecture on hormones.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 04:56 PM
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It's unfair for people to think that someone might love them for who they are. You say "unfair", I say "stupid". A rose by any other name still smells as sweet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 04:54 PM
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As long as we're fantasizing, once these offenders are released from prison they then have to register on a Sexual Offender Accusation list, which prevents them from coming within 1000 feet of fraternities, military installations, and high school sports facilities. The fact that they are convicted felony accusers prevents them from gaining jobs where they are in contact with men or male children.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 04:49 PM
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Point being that TRP is a male space. Hurt feelings that the talk there induces in women aren't, and oughtn't be, a concern. The reasons for that go beyond simple callousness, even though that suffices. The real reason for that talk and the surrounding lack of concern for the effects of that talk is deprogramming. You sniff around this with this statement My father, my friends, my boyfriend, they have a lot of those characteristics. The men of TRP either lack or at one time they lacked those cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 04:41 PM
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Yes, I have fantasies where rape accusations are investigated and the perpetrators of these heinous crimes are punished severely. When a woman is found to have made a false rape accusation, she is sentenced to a long period of prison, where she can spend her precious years of youth behind bars, hopefully serving as a lesson to other young women with poor decision making capability and poor self control that false rape accusations will not be tolerated in a civil society. It's time to put these f…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 04:18 PM
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which is unfortunate because I don't think you have to hurt women (not even their feelings) You can help your delicate sensibilites by turning the fuck away.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 04:12 PM
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For your information, I have been raped and I don't appreciate this discussion very much at all. Solution: don't make posts asking questions about rape fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 04:03 PM
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but not actually change anything about the way they are treated in society? TRP is about men learning how they (the personal they - the individual) can get ahead in society. TRP is not about men changing the way "they" as a class are treated, because that ship sailed. This isn't some grand collective movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 04:14 AM
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Nothing whatsoever. I'm sitting poolside living life and having fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 04:12 AM
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Don't get yourself in legal trouble, that's bad. Otherwise as the great red pill prophet B-Legit says Only sixteen, way too tight, But age ain't nothin' but a number...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 01:56 AM
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as if they were the good guys The smarter ones among them will attempt to use TRP as a foil to show that they are the moderates. They're uniters, not dividers.
/r/TheRedPill29/05/15 11:56 PM
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1) Successful Career 2) Good shape 3: Better mental/emotional attractiveness. A man who was a beta incel schlub at 20 can turn that around and be far more attractive a decade later.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 11:46 PM
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I dunno dude, how many times can you find a syringe on the street and stick it into your neck before the risk gets to an "unacceptable level", assuming you really really want to stick syringes in your neck? My answer in both cases remains "don't do that". Not responsible for advice not taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 11:41 PM
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It's not syntax, it's blatant hyperbole. But you go ahead and declare yourself the winner. I'll even let you put in the last word, here:
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 11:36 PM
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Rest assured, the very moment that divorce begins to negatively impact women, the laws will be changed. Sure, but that assumes that divorce laws will begin to negatively impact women. Consider an alternative: Primary custody of the mother is the best thing for the needs of the child. Likewise, the payment of alimony by the primary custodian is not in the best interest of the child. So she ditches your lame ass, slaps the sprog in day care, and goes to bang the VP of Finance. You get a "thanx for…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 11:34 PM
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Gay marriage for you then? More like confirmed bachelorhood. I'd advise gay men of the same thing though - don't get legally entangled.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 11:30 PM
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Now, say neither condition is met. The woman is the higher earner Which means she sees herself as above him - all else being equal. So the male has to have some other qualities that allow her to look up to him like being a famous artist or being as hot as two chicks fucking. The combination of those two (wealthy woman and not wealthy but otherwise prime cut man) makes a vanishingly small percentage of the population. Do you feel the same way? We can spin any scenario any number of outlandish way…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 11:29 PM
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Surely they can't all be 'hot and confident', at least not when they first start getting into fitness. Um, your analysis said there was "a ton" of these guys. I can see it from here. In any case you dodge the point, which is that you're basically saying Here are some hot and confident guys, go do what they do. Lame dudes need step by step advice. Nobody except the manosphere is giving it to them. Not fitness forums, not well meaning women. But they'd also be cementing a victim mindset in 'incels…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 11:22 PM
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So, they want to get married. My advice remains the same: any number of sexual partners including zero makes a woman unattractive for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 01:06 PM
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I am asking this question for men who basically have to get married in the future. There is still a segment of men that want to get married in the future regardless of the laws. Have to or want to? Which one is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 01:02 PM
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Marriage is a bad deal for men, it's all risk and no reward. Until divorce laws change such that women are disincentivized to take men to the cleaners, men who marry are stupid. The discussion about how many prior cocks she's taken before the risk of said cleaning-out gets "too bad" sounds like a discussion about the least harmful caliber of pistol to stick in your mouth and suck a bullet out of.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 12:57 PM
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What a ridiculous proposition, that it's only straight males! A careful reading of my comment would show you that I didn't make that proposition.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 12:29 PM
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TRP compares people to things they are not, gets upset when others compare them to things they are not and wants us to care about his feewees It's clear that I'm terribly upset at your devastating sally of wit and insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 03:17 AM
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This sub is like AskTRP's retarded cousin. Red pill summer school as it were.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 03:15 AM
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Yes, I'll keep making comparisons of women to dogs. That means nothing with regards to your comment though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 03:14 AM
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Caricature: a picture, description, or imitation of a person or thing in which certain striking characteristics are exaggerated in order to create a comic or grotesque effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 03:05 AM
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Why does everyone think that the MRM has extremism? It's a useful fiction because it allows their opponents to put them back on their heels, frantically denying/apologizing for the supposed "extremism". OP here has internalized that to the point where he's lobbying TRP to be nice so's that people stop calling MRAs mean names. That's what you call "institutionalized".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 02:40 AM
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they only serve to hurt their own cause by Get this, and get it real good: Neither I or anyone else in TRP cares about some grand "cause". We're trying to improve our lives. Moderate viewpoints wouldn't talk about anti-slut defense, amused mastery, alpha fucks/beta bucks, the wall, or any of a host of useful concepts that TRP talks about that are also are patently offensive to the average person. driving away anyone with a moderate view point, Good. Weak opinions and weasel words aren't appropri…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 02:27 AM
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I think you did it exactly as it should be done. Red pill and pickup literature describe this as a "freeze out".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 02:07 AM
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They openly support rape, Nope. say most or all claims are false All public rape claims are false. teach how to get past LMR Not rape. I'm not sure what else to call that. Lots of things, but rape isn't one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 02:04 AM
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And unreciprocated sexual attraction can happen for either gender, in any friendship including same sex. You're flailing desperately. Overwhelming, unreciprocated sexual attraction in supposed friendships is heterosexual men pining for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 02:01 AM
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One can lament about the downfall of society while recognizing that it's rational choices that lead there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 01:06 PM
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Doesn't that apply to being friends with other men too? Female friends can offer some of the benefits that male friends can, even if they come with the likely downside of unreciprocated sexual attraction, Fixed that up for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 01:02 PM
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I bet there are more drug addicted streetwalkers alone in a given US city than male "pro doms" catering to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 12:54 PM
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Up, as in up from a baseline of zero? Come back when the population of meth addicted street hookers is 50/50 men and women, when rub-n-tug shops are 50/50 men and women, when backpage.com's hookers are split between hetero men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 12:47 PM
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Why so many men don't see this and continue to be intimidated or made to feel relatively bad looking is a mystery to me. Consistent rejection and failure will do that to people. Combine that with a fundamental lack of understanding of what women are attracted to and you end up with lame men assuming that they're physically unattractive and unsalvageable. If women had the guts to play on a level playing field If women had the guts to play on a level playing field they'd be eclipsed by women witho…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 12:44 PM
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In every realistic circumstance marriage is a bad deal for men. The more money you have, the worse deal it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 01:53 AM
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I didn't say you were stupid - just callous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 01:09 AM
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They don't. And that's what I'm trying to say. They don't need it. But lame men do. This is what TRP talks about when they say that most men are invisible to women. Hey look at these hot, confident men. Do what they do. - not much of a plan for some incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 01:08 AM
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When you get angry at a girl who won't sleep with you and spit on her offer of friendship, what are you really saying to her? That you're a weak man without options. You're too chicken to escalate sexually early on, so you hung around until you got your courage up to make a clumsy move, even though she told you that you were firmly in the friend zone a long time ago. Now you're going to make it awkward for her. That you can't hold frame, you aren't masculine. By losing your cool when she shot yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 01:07 PM
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He needs more pills than just a red one, he sounds like a grade A fucking mentalist. You read, but you fail to understand. Empathy is hard, especially for those that you despise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 12:58 PM
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I'm not denying that men think this way. Throughout this thread you're trying to argue that men oughtn't think that way, that it isn't really like that, etc. Step back for a second and ignore all of those thoughts. Men do think this way. So, what does that say about your interactions with them? When you say 'Aw, you're such a good friend' and give your schlubby male bestie friend a hug, what are you really saying to him? When you cry on his shoulder about boy troubles, what does he hear?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 12:55 PM
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I understand trp You have a greater understanding than most of your peers, I'll grant you that. I like the picture. I get the concept. But Amused Mastery still sounds like a PUA trick. A bit of sleight of hand, rather than a real, lasting change in personality. Get me? Yes, because it is. To learn new behaviors you have to trick yourself, you have to have a script, you have to practice and study. And that's creepy/gross/repulsive to you. TRP theory would say that this is a natural reaction, that…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 12:51 PM
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I think that BP advice is not really bad Have you, as a sexually unsuccessful man, used this "BP advice" to better your sex life? No? Do you have any accounts of sexually unsuccessful men who have done so? No? Then what are you going on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 05:05 AM
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The basic blue pill idea as expressed out loud is that all people are special snowflakes and nothing should be assumed about them a priori. Much like sheep seeing a new gate - Is it a wolf? Is it another sheep? Is it food? The unspoken idea is that women are simultaneously both better and oppressed, therefore they deserve extra consideration. To summarize: Outwardly - egalitarianism. Beneath the surface - pussy pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:30 AM
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[Paragraphs deleted] There's a story on TRP's sidebar that you ought to read. I can assure you that those feelings are not at all rare, which is why that story is on the sidebar. Read it. It's difficult and ugly and unpleasant. Read, and understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:21 AM
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Sex is both harder to get and more desired by men than by women. A quick proof of this is the fact that the overwhelming majority of the paid-for sex industry is aimed at straight men. Strippers, pornography, massage parlors, prostitutes, bikini baristas, Hooters waitresses - the target demographic is straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 03:58 AM
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Doesn't it tell you something that I knew exactly what you wanted trpers to tell you? Not really sure what you're getting at with that comment. It would be great if the red pill would morph into a place where they taught amused mastery (by a less shitty name) and frame and got rid of all the pseudo-science and bitterness. There's a lot to pick on in that sentence. I'll choose just one - the shitty name for amused mastery. I understand that it gets under your skin and I understand that the pictur…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 03:34 AM
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Do you reckon she was trying to recruit? There's only one person in the world that knows, but there's one more person that can find out.
/r/askTRP27/05/15 01:09 AM
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Note that the advice isn't to one course of action or the other, only to weigh which is more important.
/r/askTRP26/05/15 03:07 AM
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Paying taxes, wifing up post-wall single moms. You know, stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 01:48 AM
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You have to be a pretty big cunt of a man to beat women. One might imagine, the same kind of cunt that wouldn't hesitate to put a knife into some strange dude that punched him in the face.
/r/TheRedPill26/05/15 01:41 AM
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She stated she was violent due to her past. Are you truly this bad at reading? Her reasons for being violent don't matter. Her behavior, her repeated assaults for no good reason, are the problem. Don't irrationally attack people, that's crazy behavior. You pretended that 'crazy' was only a pejorative in my mind No, I said that you're offended by me calling a crazy woman crazy. Everything else is a product of your outrage/fevered imagination. You bore me. Well that's just awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 01:37 AM
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One ought to be able to reveal promiscuity without any negative consequences as there is nothing wrong with the behavior The behavior is unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 01:33 AM
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Ding ding ding.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 01:32 AM
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How about legal consequences?
/r/TheRedPill25/05/15 11:45 PM
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I think the solution to a nonjudicial accusation is a nonjudicial defense. Which is why the victim is suing the college and hopefully suing Mattress Girl personally. I hope that he collects big bucks from both of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 11:33 PM
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Not saying you should or should not do this, but consider the legal and practical consequences of jumping into someone else's fight. Are you familiar with your local laws regarding this? Suppose you step in and dude pulls a weapon. Do you have a plan for that situation?
/r/TheRedPill25/05/15 11:27 PM
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the point is that some blue pill people feel like partner count shouldn't matter. Again, ought versus is. Talking about ought vs. is regarding sexual attraction sounds like an attempt to negotiate attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 09:36 PM
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I think the idea is that it shouldn't matter. This is a classic problem: ought versus is. TRP deals mainly with what is, not what there ought to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 09:30 PM
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The potential future barbarians are already inside the gates of North America. They worry me far more than those across 10000 miles of ocean.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 09:14 PM
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She's not evil. No, and that's what is so tragic. they deserve another chance But not at the expense of my life or my freedom. I'm absolutely going to discriminate against them when it comes to letting them into my personal life because I've seen firsthand what can come of it. Likewise I'll encourage other men to avoid women with mental illness, because the potential consequences are both severe and unpredictable. Is that harsh? Unfair? I suppose it is. But it's a harsh and unfair world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 09:12 PM
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I don't agree that it's better or worse than others My point is that through cultural and geographic circumstance we are lucky enough to remain inward-facing with relative impunity. This exacerbates the knowledge problem. There is more knowledge in the world than a single person can accumulate. I could make it a full time job reading books about Napoleon and never finish. So I focus red pill ideas on the places in my life that I will use them. Historical and geographical quirks make it that much…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 08:39 PM
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Understood, thanks. The analogy I use is an obese woman who wears a magic necklace that makes her attractive. One day she takes the necklace off. Unpleasant, and you can't un-see it. The reaction then is to check other women for magic jewelry and to check them constantly. The analogy here would be to a woman's shit tests/comfort tests - continually testing the man to see if he's really attractive or if he's a beta chump who's learned to ape real men. Notice how this all comes full circle. Why do…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 08:35 PM
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However, isn't it insecurity on the part of the women who hide their past in the first place? The thing about "insecurity" is that it has a connotation like "paranoia" - that it's irrational. Like the saying goes, it isn't paranoia if they really are out to get you. It's not insecurity if what you're hiding really is a deal breaker. Dishonest, underhanded, deceitful - maybe. But not insecure. Why do women feel so compelled about shaming men for being "insecure" about women's n-counts To ask the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 08:30 PM
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Outcome independence isn't what I was going for, but you might read it in those quotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 08:25 PM
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I'm afraid that I can't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 08:24 PM
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You may always have that insecurity but you may also be able to smother it enough to be functional. I came of age in a small town, pre-internet, as an awkward and shy person. As you might expect I didn't do so well for quite a long time. After a long, unhappy, and ultimately failed marriage I found red pill ideas. Don't be me. ITT nothing but people with zero experience with the topic at hand handing out their ignorant, hardass tough love. Be that as it may, you are the person who needs to make …
/r/TheRedPill25/05/15 06:27 PM
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Men are disposable in evolutionary terms. One man can impregnate 50 women, but one woman can only carry one baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 06:11 PM
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Imagine a man who obsessively reads that makeupaddiciton subreddit and then spends time trying to suss out how much war paint a woman has slapped on. It's counterproductive, you need to let the lizard brain take over a bit and just see if he's attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 06:05 PM
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Right, it needs to be calibrated to the target. If the target is a pudgy nerd girl you probably don't want to tease/neg her at all because she'll slam down her defenses. Being gently forward and friendly is the way to go there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 06:03 PM
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So, your dude doesn't wear black nail polish and a big furry hat?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 05:59 PM
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It's a tough problem, especially when the attacker can get at the victim via nonjudical processes. This is what happened with Mattress Girl. She didn't go to the cops, she went to the college administration and the court of public opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 05:58 PM
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Should we just let everyone BDP die alone and cross our fingers so that we don't run into any of them? If it comes down to it - yes. If we're in the proverbial lifeboat and it's my life or theirs then I am choosing mine. Unlike the police or organized mental health professionals, a man in a relationship with a BPD woman has no protection whatsoever. In fact, given the cultural bias towards women, he is more vulnerable than she is. Suppose she attacks him, he pushes her away, she falls down, star…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 05:55 PM
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Someday you might have to face the consequences. I live in the continental United States. We're fortunate in terms of geography to be bordered on two sides by the world's largest two oceans, and on the other two sides by weak and peaceful neighbors. Those neighbors are in turn surrounded by thousands of miles of inhospitable terrain. External threats would need to cross all of that to arrive on our borders. Likewise we are culturally homogeneous, heavily armed, and historically antagonistic, giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 05:45 PM
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I have more empathy for them than you think. If you'd like to know more, my ex-wife suffered from bipolar disorder, PTSD from childhood sexual abuse, etc. I stood by her for years and weathered multiple episodes from her, until at last I chose to not try to help her any longer. People are more than their mental illnesses. Yes and no. Most of the time most people are more than their mental illnesses, but some of the time, the illness eclipses who they are. During those periods they may do somethi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 05:34 PM
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A while ago, blue pill types retreated from the idea that TRP had nothing of value to offer by claiming that everything that TRP offered that was valuable was "common sense" that "everyone knew" that "you could find anywhere". I knew that wouldn't last because there are things that red pill people talk about that aren't talked about 'everywhere' - they aren't talked about anywhere. Such as amused mastery. Consider that the root commenter here was able to put aside those objections about incels a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 05:21 PM
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As about how to protect yourself from false rape accusations , the answer is don't just screw people you don't know so well and don't "pressure" people into having sex with you if they're clearly uncomfortable. If you read the texts back and forth between Mattress Girl and her victim you can see several things They knew each other well She wasn't pressured into sex She wasn't uncomfortable with sex with him Your advice doesn't help in the given example.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 05:04 PM
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That's not the way to treat a human being who has a personality disorder they can't help. The problem is that I'm risking my money, my physical safety, and my freedom by associating with such a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 05:02 PM
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You present a false dichotomy: reclaiming positive masculinity focus on getting laid That's enough on that. As for this how do you think this impacts people's impressions of TRP? Don't care. Them's as wants to will, them's as don't, won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 04:55 PM
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I think they still need to learn some harsh truths about the world. I don't plan on living in those parts of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 04:50 PM
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It makes you wonder if TRP is telling other golden eggs of truth as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 04:44 PM
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I don't understand your point. Do you think that it is unnecessary for the TRP to encourage men to lead? For my purposes, yes, because I'm happy sitting poolside as in the above link.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 08:41 PM
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I just get the heebie-jeebies whenever we start explaining basic terms as completely exclusionary. Yet you just divided primates into male and female, ignoring hermaphrodites and transgenders.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 07:09 PM
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TRP encourages men to first take on/pretend, then adopt, characteristics that are shared with alpha males and leaders. Leadership is compatible with red pill ideas. You can probably find a post on the main red pill sub encouraging leadership. But men going their own way is likewise compatible with TRP. Sitting poolside is likewise compatible with TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 07:04 PM
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We should encourage both men and women to lead Leaders lead without requiring "encouragement" from their betters. The image that comes to mind when you say encouragement is the swimming instructor coaxing the nervous kid off the end of the low board.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 05:43 PM
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I think in your rush to concede it's rare you have conceded the original point (women can be alpha). Sounds like the incessant AWALT/NAWALT discussions on this board. Those in turn remind me of nothing more than some old Orthodox Jew with a pair of 40x magnifiers strapped on his head, squinting at a bolt of cloth to determine if it is Shatnez. What the fuck is the point? "Women can't be alpha" is a useful enough rule of thumb that you will do far better in your life if you apply that, as opposed…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 05:41 PM
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Well , I suppose being alpha is more common among men. Overwhelmingly more common. Thus the comment about women not being alpha is true enough for general purpose use. Overwhelmingly women prefer to not lead, but rather to be led.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 04:15 PM
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I'll accept that for argument. How common is that among women vs. men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 04:07 PM
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Here's your rough litmus test for an alpha: Is this someone that men want to be led by? Here's an example from fiction: You think I'm fuckin' with you? I am not fuckin' with you. Here's another: Americans love a winner, and will not tolerate a loser! Now, how many examples of women do you have that meet that criteria?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 03:55 PM
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i've never been in a real fight, i'm afraid to fight. should i get into one on purpose? Go read Marc MacYoung on street fighting, then go read the rest of his website. i feel that it would be somehow liberating for me. Like other posters have said, go join a boxing or MMA gym. You'll get punched in the face and learn that you won't give up and cry when it happens. Getting into a real fight is a great way to end up in jail (where you can get into more real fights).
/r/askTRP24/05/15 03:41 PM
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MRAs, PUA, MGTOWs, etc are all different flavors of Red Pill. This reminds me of a quote from Jeff Cooper: The shooting community - if there is any such thing - seems to have fragmented like the Balkans. In this era of specialization no one seems to consider any topic "in the round," so to speak. We should endeavor to avoid this insofar as we can, for our enemies will seek every opportunity to divide and conquer. I will endeavor to clean up my own act to the best of my ability, but since I have …
/r/TheRedPill24/05/15 03:19 PM
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Your arrogance, needless use of big words and petty tactics when putting down others undermine your otherwise great message. Note that this is a pretty common response from outsiders towards TRP in general, I can't even read it, it's so hateful towards women. It's a tone argument. Ps, I hope I don't get the ban hammer for this. If you get the ban hammer it will be because of the tone argument and not the criticism.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/15 03:13 PM
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/r/altTRP
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 02:56 PM
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You miss the point. My guess is that you aren't a native English speaker so I will be clear. You sound like you are orbiting this girl, as in beta orbiter. If she was your 'plate' - casual fuck partner - what do you care if she has a boyfriend, fiance, or husband (aside from not getting into a fight with the man)? Answer should be that you would not care, unless you are catching feelings for her. So basic questions: Are you fucking this woman? Where do you want the relationship with this woman t…
/r/askTRP24/05/15 02:54 PM
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If you don't mind, would you point me towards a "PC" source on these strategies? Mark Manson's book Models is interestingly enough recommended by TRP as well as some of its opponents. What Mark describes as dishonest behavior in the book is basically what TRP describes as beta behavior, what is described as honest behavior is TRP alpha behavior. Lots of concepts there about minimal investment, holding frame, diffusing shit tests, etc., but presented in a way that doesn't offend folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 02:47 PM
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LOL, you've been around libertarian types a few times. Nice one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 02:37 PM
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They sure wouldn't want to change places with a garbage collector or a carpenter. Those jobs are physically demanding, dangerous, and most importantly, low status. You don't see women whining and demanding entry to low status professions, you see them whining and demanding entry to the fire department, Ranger battalions, etc. High status vs. low status.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 02:33 PM
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I'm not even saying that he's necessarily wrong, although it's clear I don't think much of what he's doing. What I'm saying is, this is a decent marketing strategy and much better than TRP's. I hope Roosh makes a go of this and provides value to his subscribership. I think though that he's going to play to the marketing side and the general public perception to the detriment of the ideas that he is pushing.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/15 02:24 PM
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Tom Lykis' advice on this was to figure out what was more important/harder to replace: the piece of pussy, or the job. Because that piece of ass might cost you the job.
/r/askTRP24/05/15 04:44 AM
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I'd wager that the respected people in the groups you mention hold frame a lot better than Matt Taylor did. There's a prime example of a smart and successful, yet beta, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 04:35 AM
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So, is TRP only for men having issues in their lives? Honest question: if someone is happy, why would they seek change?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 04:29 AM
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"First, you were complaining that there wasn't enough water in the desert. Then we dropped you in the ocean and you said there was too much. Make up your mind".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 04:28 AM
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I'm hoping you're not including me in that. You can assume I am. I've just seen some redpillers arguing that people call RP misogynistic for reasons other than it being misogynistic. People call TRP misogynistic for a variety of reasons. I'm under no particular pressure to justify myself or even defend myself against such claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 04:16 AM
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You miss the point. TRP doesn't care about your opinion of red pill tactics and strategies, and the reason for that lack of caring is generally rooted in the prior experiences of red pillers. I'm providing you an explanation, not a justification, because I'm beyond justification. The ship for niceness and holding hands and hugging and shit sailed years ago, taking "you're a bad person" and similar concerns along with it. Acting in accordance with social expectations and being "not-bad" got me an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 07:03 PM
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OP, consider the story on the sidebar. It's far more than social pressure, it's being told that you as a person aren't worthy of love and affirmation from another person. It's being tortured in a cage and not knowing how to get out, with everyone that claims to be helping you really tricking you into slapping another lock on your own door. it will haunt him for the rest of his life. "Haunt"? Not necessarily but there are things that you won't forget. Those experiences shape who you become. Speak…
/r/TheRedPill23/05/15 06:09 PM
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Moderating a subreddit is a thankless job, let alone a bag of snakes like this one. Complaining about the mods here is like getting a free sandwich and then bitching that there are pickles on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 05:57 PM
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don't be shocked when people rightly call it misogynistic. When you have considered suicide because of loneliness and because you don't know how to fix yourself (and a not-insignificant number of the TRP readership has), being called "misogynistic" isn't much of a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 05:52 PM
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unless she's really hideous Consider the worst mugshot you've seen of a street prostitute. Now consider that she can get men to pay money to have sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 05:46 PM
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"Well unattractive men can get sex too if they lower their standards enough." Meth addicted prostitutes with open sores can make money from selling sex to low status men. That is enough to show that a significant number of men simply can't lower their standards enough to get sex from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 05:41 PM
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I think he's going at it in a way that's not very wise. Eh, I think it might work out for him. Mass movements really do appeal to a fairly large subset of the populace. The Great Leader's One True Way will fix all of your problems! is much more appealing to many more people than Here's some stuff, it more or less works once you figure it out, but it will take hard work and dedication to make it work. Time to fuck or walk, son.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/15 12:09 AM
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Because all this says is that she's brought it up in therapy. I see, you think she has other and possibly worse issues, besides being irrationally violent. Yeah maybe, but she didn't mention them, that comment was all about the assaults. You need a fucking study that proves 'crazy' is a pejorative term for mental illness? Didn't ask for or even imply that I needed one. I said that pejoratives are words that offend you. That doesn't mean that they aren't other things, such as pejoratives, or true…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 11:57 PM
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Nowhere does she say that's why she's in therapy. Nowhere Right here in the part you quoted: I tried to stop it in therapy The natural reading of "it" is meaning the previous statement about being "overly" aggressive. Crazy is pejorative So pejoratives are words that offend you. OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 11:15 PM
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Sounds rather a lot more like those guys can't interact properly, no? Without being there you can't tell what actually happened, but the poster heavily implied that she was scared and irrationally decided to physically assault men who weren't a threat to her. This happened multiple times, and she tried and failed to correct this via mental health resources. I think that's a fair reading of the comment - if she thought it was rational behavior she wouldn't be in therapy for it. Note further that …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 10:54 PM
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Not saying this is right or wrong but consider a contributing factor: many men who come to red pill ideas started off as really low SMV males. They increase in SMV with age and exposure to red pill ideas. Thus Rollo's classic SMV curve could be people in the manosphere reporting their results.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 08:40 PM
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That's not it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 12:37 PM
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A smart man will ensure that he doesn't catch feelings and that he keeps options open. This is the primary way to make yourself immune to dread game - don't give a fuck. If she leaves she leaves, if she stays she stays. Don't get yourself emotionally or legally entangled with a woman and you'll be fine. "But beer, not all men do that". Well you're right, and those men are liable to get played like fiddles by the chick they have oneitis for or who holds the proverbial Sword of Damocles over their…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 01:19 AM
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/u/beer77's Relationship Ladder: ONS: be sexually available and not fugly/obese Plate/casual: be ONS plus not crazy/a bitch ------------- LTR line --------------- LTR: Be plate material plus bring value to my life in other ways Marriage: Be LTR material plus be good enough for me to risk half of all my stuff on you The scale is exponentially more difficult at each stage. Each stage requires all stages below plus new things. Having material for a higher stage is meaningless until you have fulfill…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 01:12 AM
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There is, however, one way that you can get your girl privilege back.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 01:04 AM
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Why do feminists seem to think it is OK to act out against perceived threats? Because they have overwhelmingly lived lives of privilege, including but not limited to possessing a pussy pass. They've been sheltered from consequence to the point that they have no reference on reality. They've never been punched in the face for pissing someone off. That's why they think "violence" is someone on the internet calling them a fatass.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 01:03 AM
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The glee in harming others is not from the person who implies she's so mentally ill that she can't interact properly in public, it's from the people responding to the crazy woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 12:59 AM
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Unfortunately for you there's no pussy pass on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 12:53 AM
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No, it's ridiculous because that's not what eugenism is Pop quiz: how many of the female posters to that blue pill subreddit, if they were pregnant with a child with birth defects, would choose to get it scraped out? Those are your eugenicists right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 12:43 AM
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I wouldn't see that as subtle. If my guy started dropping names of women (in a way that seemed to go beyond the usual) "I wouldn't see that as subtle when I wouldn't see it as subtle". Tautological.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 12:38 AM
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any man who would even slightly put effort into making me feel less secure with him is not worth my time Ah yes, you know exactly the motivations of a man who decides to start going to the gym, or who buys new underwear. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 12:37 AM
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You gonna be talkin' bout biatches at the bar, she's gonna be walking. If subtle dread game causes her to walk, the relationship was on the brink anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 12:28 PM
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Also, are you saying that men who use dread game don't respect their women ?? No, I'm saying that women need to respect a man in order to maintain attraction to them. They will quickly grow to despise a man that they can manipulate. A man doesn't have to respect or look up to a woman in order to be attracted to her, thus his ability to manipulate her has little effect on his attraction to her. In fact it can be just the opposite. See amused mastery for an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 02:54 AM
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Depending on how it's said, that's the kind of thing that could cause a rift. So, I can't have a fucking beer at the sports bar without you getting huffy about it? I'm telling you, bitches be crazy, man. A man also wants a woman he respects. Not so much. Think about the whole amused mastery thing. Notice how that isn't - could never be - a thing for women, yet it works well for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 02:48 AM
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'interesting' - you knocked that shit out the park, dog! ♂
/r/askTRP21/05/15 01:06 AM
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Suppose you're a professional dog trainer or dog whisperer or something. The typical man who comes to TRP isn't a professional bitch whisperer (yet) though. He needs some simple rules to not fuck up. AWALT is simple and effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 12:55 AM
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The question is whether it happens enough to make the extremely high level of wariness TRP advocates count as sensible. I've never had a negligent discharge of a firearm but I check the chamber before handling one. And my overall point is that the decision to buy into this level of wariness seems to me like a mostly non-rational decision I've wasted lots of time in checking the chambers of unloaded guns. Turns out though that every now and then there's a round in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 12:54 AM
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In theory dread game will work in proportion to the investment that the target has in the relationship. In practice though men don't get attracted by consensus/preselection. A woman will become more attracted to a man if other women want him. A man won't. Also consider that men aren't as adept at picking up social cues as women are. A man running dread game on a woman might mention the 'funny' waitress at the sports bar, by name. That's enough to get the hamster going. Saying the equivalent to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 12:48 AM
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Similarly, if an old gypsy woman were to theatrically pronounce a curse upon you OP, have you personally been affected by a Gypsy curse? Do you know of anyone who's been affected by a Gypsy curse? Ever heard a story about someone affected by a Gypsy curse? Have you ever seen a Gypsy place a curse on someone and correctly predicted the negative effects of the curse on the victim?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 05:25 AM
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Ditto for males though Nobody on TRP is looking to marry a dude. Standards for thee are not for me. similar-age, older when married & higher education (for both partners) You assume that the goal of a stable marriage ought to trump other values. No doubt that a pudgy religious late 30s spinster with coke bottle glasses would make a loyal wife for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 04:09 AM
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I just don't get why RP seems to think premarital sex for men won't be a negative. It's not like STDs/Is don't exist for men. The risk of premarital sex for women that TRP is concerned about is that it makes them less suitable for commitment. Women with fewer sexual partners make more loyal spouses.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 03:44 AM
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DiCarlo escalation ladder.
/r/askTRP20/05/15 03:15 AM
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and honestly, why should I engage with someone who's just going to insult me? I'd suggest that you separate argument from invective. Here's a great example of about a half dozen people failing to do just that. I'd bet that my comment there leaves a bad taste in your mouth though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 02:57 AM
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The common theme that you'll find is men who were failures to one degree or another in their sex lives - dead marriages, divorces, can't get a woman, etc. Despite the fever dreams of that blue pill subreddit, nobody comes to red pill ideas because golly, things were going so well then that wiley ol' red pill guy came along and seduced me to the dark side. No, you'll find plenty of personal rock bottom stories. Men come to TRP because everything else has failed them. They don't know how to be men…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 02:26 AM
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The sound red pill ideas are red pill at all TRP is not concerned with the lineage of its ideas or who thinks what 'belongs' there. the two identities are pretty incompatible. Agreed. Also you may not be proselytizing but i see terper proselytizing all the time. Again my response is a <shrug>. But beer, I totes saw a dude preaching red pill stuff - Wasn't me, don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 02:00 AM
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<shrug> It's meaningless to me what internet MRAs think of me, aside from the purely practical concern of not getting doxxed. I'm not here to recruit new members for the movement, because TRP is not a mass movement. I hope that you learn something from red pill ideas, for your own good, but your approval isn't needed for me to learn from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 01:22 AM
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We just know it hurts men in general to speculate on their lack of sexual experience. And we have an honest answer at last.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 01:15 AM
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Virginity has nothing to do with it. I just don't like assholes. Then why use male virginity as an insult?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 01:14 AM
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I'm not an MRA so I won't speak for them. I will speak on behalf of TRP as I'm an endorsed contributor over there. TRP doesn't hate MRA. MRA guys' hearts are in the right place but their heads are not. I'll absolutely admit to contempt for them, but it isn't hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 01:02 AM
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They don't. They find male virgins to be low value and contemptible, thus male virginity is an epithet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 12:54 AM
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You're at least half wrong. TRP doesn't hate MRA's. Contempt is not hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 12:52 AM
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How can I make sure she doesn't do this to another individual again You can't, and you shouldn't worry about it. Do yourself a favor and don't try to do the world a favor. How can I make her indiscretions work for me and not against me? The least bad thing you can do is to get her to pay on the last 6 months of the lease. However, you don't want to screw your good buddy roommate over. If your buddy will keep his mouth shut you could tell him everything including your plans to dump her after the …
/r/askTRP19/05/15 05:14 AM
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Almost anything except indicating disapproval. Ignore it. Dismiss it - I don't care (smirk) or He's not here. Laugh it off - Well, I've got a basketball team.
/r/askTRP19/05/15 04:54 AM
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during that half a week or so last August when we were broken up, she slept with someone. We were technically broken up (it was finalized by her). So in 3 or 4 days, she 'broke up' with you and magically found another dick? No dawg, she 'broke up' with you so that she could taste that other cock guilt free, and then branch swing back to you in case she needed to. She has a lot of qualities that make her better than other women I want a stable monogamous relationship with a supportive partner. Ca…
/r/askTRP19/05/15 04:29 AM
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in the case I found out she had a BF but still wanted to sleep with her, what should I have done? Treat it like any other shit test. She's on a date with you and told you she was attracted.
/r/askTRP19/05/15 04:23 AM
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if the wall is merely about getting older and becoming less and less attractive as you age, then yes, I agree. It's not though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 04:04 AM
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I think some guys are naturally masculine and it just comes naturally to them. Exhibit A in women attempting to raise men, gentlemen. lol it just happens i dunno
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 03:57 AM
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AKA, "What the fuck are axioms for anyways?"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 03:55 AM
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Your potential at 20 was greater than your potential at 40, sexually. Unfortunately for me, TRP and the rest of the manosphere didn't exist 2 decades ago. The undecided young men who are reading this can make their decisions enlightened by the mistakes of others. The time when women would have slept with you for free is long gone. Too much troll too fast. Should have pretended to build rapport and then gone for the dagger. You've spent too long in that blue pill echo chamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 03:43 AM
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Do you understand what the analogy is getting at? Of course they do. They're playing rope a dope with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 03:32 AM
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Your sexual market value won't grow as you age, I'm confident that my SMV is higher at 40 than it was at 20. but your beta bux value will. The two aren't mutually exclusive. By denying the male wall You misunderstand "the wall".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 03:29 AM
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Thank you for such a reasoned and well thought rebuttal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 12:15 PM
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Well, I would never use his religion as a bargaining chip. That's just a terrible thing to do to another human being. :( Nobody ever gets married thinking that they're going to get divorced. Yet a significant number of marriages end in divorce and a significant number of those are angry, bitter, and vitriolic. Unlike him, you don't have a guilt-based religion that is against divorce holding you into a marriage. You hold the upper hand here. Whether you ever use it or not, well, the sword of Damo…
/r/askTRP17/05/15 11:27 PM
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That's a panty drier. Gotcha bitch! is not the kind of response you want unless you're trying to shut her down.
/r/askTRP17/05/15 05:57 PM
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What's the best way of handling that question? "I like challenging myself".
/r/askTRP17/05/15 05:25 PM
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Weak/undesirable men are despised, therefore it's socially acceptable to laugh at them. Here's a visual aid to help out.
/r/TheRedPill17/05/15 04:37 PM
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Marriage is a bad deal for a man. Even worse when he comes from a traditional guilt based religion and she does not. He won't be able to hold Jesus over her, but she can use his religion to keep him in line. I'd advise dude to not marry at all. Failing that, marry someone from within his faith and who is an active churchgoer, whose parents and family are active churchgoers.
/r/askTRP17/05/15 04:25 PM
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Why do these same people decry RP men from becoming the 'bad', 'cool' and 'commitment phobic' guys that Sandberg encourages young women to fuck, but not marry? Because they want genuine alphas, not lame dudes that have taught themselves to emulate alphas. The thought of a beta male deceiving them into having sex is revolting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 04:20 PM
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Presumably, trying to seduce her.
/r/askTRP17/05/15 03:56 PM
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I've said before that male and female sexual strategies are adversarial, this is one example why. /u/HappilySingleWoman wasn't talking about what was best for the man or even a mutually beneficial strategy, she was talking about the "best outcome for women". Alpha fucks/beta bucks is the best outcome for women, assuming that the woman goes into it eyes wide open.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 03:50 PM
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Do winning lottery tickets exist? Yep. Do I recommend you spend your life savings searching for one? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 03:22 PM
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If TRP is right then isn't it one of the best outcome for women (from an objective point of view)? Having lots of sex with people you're sexually attracted to and then settling down with a good guy who will take care of you ? As long as the woman recognizes up front that she won't be content in the resulting marriage and that she will need to pursue side action to get sexual satisfaction, sure. She gets her provider type (beta bucks) and can pursue guys she really wants (alpha fucks) on the side…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 03:05 PM
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TRP recognizes that alpha fucks/beta bucks is an optimized strategy for a woman to pursue, as long as she doesn't delude herself that she'll be content in the resulting marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 03:00 PM
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It's sort of stunning how plainly wrong it is Why don't you enlighten everyone why it's so wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 03:49 AM
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Unlike your parents, we feel no specific attachment to you. My honest advice to you is to stop being a NEET, make a plan to get out of your parents' house, and execute that plan.
/r/askTRP16/05/15 11:03 PM
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but I'm not sure what I should study yet. Three words: return on investment. Study something that makes you employable. For the present, are their any methods for improving my social abilities that I should be practicing? In high school, sports. It's an automatic pass into the upper social class, even if you're just warming a bench. Likewise with other "school spirit" activities. Help decorate the gym, take part in the food drive, etc. There's an idea among the outcasts/betas/losers that they're…
/r/askTRP16/05/15 10:48 PM
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what are ways I can apply TRP in high school Work on improving yourself and laying the foundation for the future. Consider that in 2 or 3 years all of this will be behind you. Continue with the weights Make your plans for life after high school
/r/askTRP16/05/15 10:35 PM
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I'm pretty content with life right now Then why the fuck are you posting here?
/r/askTRP16/05/15 10:02 PM
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Female here. Tits or GTFO. decently and respectfully, I hope Nope. 1 abstract Concrete advice for men is highly encouraged, navel gazing is not. 2 Would anyone care to enlighten me on the meaning of certain terms or what they refer to? TRP sidebar, Glossary Of Terms And Acronyms. I'd like to know how members of this community have chosen to swallow the metaphorical redpill. Lurk and read.
/r/askTRP16/05/15 10:01 PM
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"BOOOOOOOOOLLLLSHIT" I'd ignore that shit like I'd ignore the talk about her Zodiac sign or astral twin or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 09:45 PM
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Can you tell us what other things TRP suffers from? You know, since, you like talking shit about TRP in other subs and stuff.
/r/TheRedPill16/05/15 09:32 PM
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Would you have sex with an overweight or ugly girl? No probably not. I married an overweight ugly girl. She despised me for it, of course, but I didn't understand womens' nature at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 09:25 PM
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Men have always been disposable, but in marriage 1.0 days they had a high amount of utility for one person (their wife). Now they've lost that one person and the waters are receding rapidly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 09:21 PM
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because easy access to sex means having it with a low value man. "Having it" is not "having to pay for it". Low value women can charge money for sex with low value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 09:14 PM
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I don't want to be seen as a sexist Then don't talk about red pill stuff in real life. Don't post to red pill subreddits with your main reddit account. Keep that shit on the DL, my ninja.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 08:28 PM
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/u/Soupsthereitis' guide to finance: Just stop being poor and stuff. /u/Soupsthereitis' guide to careers: Get a job. The get a better job. Keep doing that until you're where you want to be. Figure it out. /u/Soupsthereitis's guide to car repair: Find out why the car doesn't work. Then fix it. You don't need anymore advice than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 08:26 PM
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But in the context of why people post to /nicegys They post to that sub because they enjoy making fun of low status men. why women are uncomfortable about PUA They're uncomfortable with pickup for much the same reasons that men are uncomfortable with the idea of wifing up a woman who's had hundreds of cocks inside of her. but nice guys fuck up everything for men and women alike. Bullshit. If you're an attractive male you get an automatic pass.
/r/TheRedPill16/05/15 06:13 PM
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Men's SMV of looks declines with age, too. It seems no matter how many times you guys get told this, no matter how many studies that indicate it, no matter what the statistics show, you refuse to accept it. Looks are a small and nondominant component of a man's SMV. The other factors of a man's SMV are dominant and they tend to increase with age (money, status, game). Thus a man's overall SMV increases with age, at least as those factors do. Looks are a large and dominant component of a woman's …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 07:58 PM
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But that same calculation applies to other men. I'm attractive for my age group (not fat, all my hair, make decent money, have a house/car, etc). Never mind 'should' - what could you do about the problem of me and similar men who don't want to get married? Without the 'could' the 'should' doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 01:13 PM
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Maybe being sexually frustrated is good for the development of boys, there doesn't seem to be any sort of traditional society that doesn't involve a large amount of discouragement of teenage wanking. I think you're on to something here. It's a hardship. Hardship tends to forge a certain level of determination, to give people a certain edge.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 01:10 PM
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For a man who hasn't achieved pussy nirvana, it's getting harder by the day to say that the juice is worth the squeeze in the SMP. I think this is the key point. There are feedback loops on both ends. Being on the inside, as more and more dudes drop out, you get a bigger and bigger pool of available women. If you're on the outside, not only is it easier and easier to drop out, but it seems harder and harder to get in. What this seems to mean in the long run is less men in the middle, the beta bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 01:06 PM
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do you think we should do something about the problem No. I remain firmly in the camp of the poolsiders. Rome might be catching fire but that's emphatically not my problem. I'm not going to let the downfall of the West ruin my day, or even my morning. just let people live for themselves You'd need the equivalent of a military dictatorship to get me to marry (again). So absent that, what are you going to do to 'make' people want to have stable families? Tax penalties for singles? I'll make less m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 12:53 PM
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You're partly right. The part you miss is that behavior is a large portion of a man's sexual attractiveness - what red pill lingo calls 'game'. Looks, Money, Status, Game - that's the big four of male attractiveness and it's basically in reverse order. Nice guys attempt to mold their behavior on what they find attractive and/or what they have been told is attractive - nonconfrontational, agreeable, nonintrusive - nice. Bad boy player types are forward and confident, which are traits that women f…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 03:45 AM
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Specifically we're talking about getting humans to do certain things and how to avoid letting humans do certain things to you. Empiricism works just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 01:59 AM
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I'm curious to know what you have found on the blue pill sub that you think is mocking you Consider how often that blue pill sub uses the image of a sexually unsuccessful man as an epithet. It's isn't hard to connect the dots and figure out that they despise such men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 01:58 AM
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disrespectful Because the Lord Jesus forbid that a woman be disrespected.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 01:55 AM
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Wouldn't you need scientific data to back up your observations? If your kitchen light doesn't turn on, do you need a peer reviewed study to figure out why not? Do you need a double blind experiment with a statistically acceptable sample size in order to resolve the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 01:53 AM
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Go search SRS or subredditdrama or any of the other social justice subs for how seddit used to be viewed before TRP came along to suck their attentions up. Because ultimately, strong men want strong women. Careful with that last part though. Many women define strong as masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 01:51 AM
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Haters gonna hate. AKA, crab bucket phenomenon. You can't afford to drop $70 grand on a lifted F350? Tell yourself that the dude who can has a small dick. You can't discipline yourself to do cardio and stop stuffing doughnuts in your face? Tell yourself that the woman who can is a slave to patriarchy. Looking to "settle down" after "finding yourself" for ten years, only to find that no man that meets your standards will commit to you? Call him a creepy predator for fucking women younger and hott…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 01:48 AM
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Potential predators? In discussions about this on TRP, there IS not guessing, it's not potential. It's the very definition of predatory behavior. So younger women aren't fully capable of handling themselves like adults, is what you're saying. They're in danger due to this inherent lack of capability that they have, as if they were not fully grown. Basically, that they have reduced agency and/or are just older children. You're got more in common with TRP than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 01:43 AM
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then they would be far more accepted An even funnier thing is people who think that becoming more accepted is one of TRP's goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 01:39 AM
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So is all this about protecting yourself because you're afraid of getting emotionally invested and possibly hurt? No. Keeping a correct emotional investment is one facet of 'all this'.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 01:35 AM
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I'm a sexually successful woman OK, so it's the potshots from ignorance one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 01:33 AM
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If you want to say TRP is A rose by any other name.... Just don't pretend Serious question tho: How is this advice any better than the sexual strategy advice you'd purport to give TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 01:31 AM
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So, by the nature of the sub, all you are ever going to get are circlejerking anecdotes [...] how everything is twisted to fit the TRP narrative [...] The point you ignore is that not everyone's opinion is valuable. Just because someone has a computer and an opinion doesn't mean that they are qualified to be part of the discussion. Again, suppose I was looking to teach myself how to use a table saw. The following sort of responses would disqualify themselves from the discussion: "lol i dont need…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 01:01 PM
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But those that use it as an excuse to be horrible to women or whatever... well, they don't have my sympathy. The incels and betas in TRP weren't going to have your sympathy before TRP though. The only way for a man to get respect is by producing value. I've seen TRPers tell women before that even though they think they are not "like that", they actually are "like that", but they just don't know it. I think living in my own head makes me the judge of whether I am "like that" or not Consider that …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 03:11 AM
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Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 02:43 AM
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the cost of the tools is so high that unless I'm going to do it 20 times it won't pay off. Buy the cheap Chinese version of the tool until you get to the point where you know you need a better one (both performance and experience). I've done a few hundred square feet of tile (floors and walls) in my house with a $99 tile saw. Last job I realized that the $500 saw would have served me better - I'm finally at the point of outperforming my equipment.
/r/TheRedPill13/05/15 02:35 AM
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Sounds like its time to convert to Islam and get some of that temporary marriage action.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 02:22 AM
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I'm interested in practical application, not ivory tower navel gazing. If I wanted advice on how to run a table saw, I wouldn't take the advice of every asshole with a computer and an opinion, because I like having ten fingers. I'd take the advice of woodworkers, I'd compare their advice to others, I'd test their advice to see if it made sense. I'm guessing from your response that you don't meet all of those four points and that you might not meet any of those four points. You aren't in the tabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 02:14 AM
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Please don't be so predictable to say what I think you're going to say next.... But, but, but, Not All Lottery Tickets Are Like That! You just said that some lottery tickets are winners but you say they "might as well all be losers"! You haven't bought every lottery ticket out there, you can't know that every lottery ticket is a loser!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 02:07 AM
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Is there an objective and logical reason to prefer RP as a source of male sexual strategy advice ? It's the best thing I've found. I think that satisfies the question. Of course all it takes is one hyperlink to prove me wrong - supposing that something better does exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 02:03 AM
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Are all lottery tickets losers?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 01:59 AM
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I see, so when you deliberately ignore reality it's for a good reason. So your advice on lottery tickets is - what, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 01:56 AM
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Sure. For instance Homosexuals Women Natural alphas People who married young to someone of a similar conservative cultural background (upper class, hardcore Christian, etc.) Those still plugged in - basic beta bux happy with once every 2 weeks duty sex, cap'n save-a-hoe happy with his role as step daddy, etc. Put it that way, the overwhelming majority of people have experiences that don't match TRP. And that's fine, because I'm not going to be any of those people any time soon. They have nothing…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 01:55 AM
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What's your take on men using plastic surgery? Hitting the weights hard and learning game are much better bang for the buck. Do those first. What's your take on women using plastic surgery Biggest bang for the buck for women is don't be fat. Doing regular cardio is a must. Plastic surgery might (might) come second. Depends on how jacked up your face is and how unfeminine your demeanor is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 01:48 AM
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So your advice is to ignore reality Reality is that any given lottery ticket is a winner. How much money do you recommend investing in lottery tickets? Reality is that not all women are like that. How much of your emotional capital do you recommend investing in any given woman? The answer in both cases is the same: not enough to hurt you. Consider the worst case downside of your investment, don't let your fantasies and hopes and dreams take you away from the likely reality. Doesn't TRP consider …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 01:39 AM
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Doesn't disprove or even address what I'm saying. Those blue pillers and people in general despise weak men. A man is an appliance, honey. And when appliances don't work they get tossed into the fucking trash. They get bad reviews on Amazon, people don't want to have a piece of shit appliance. And TRP is, by definition, full of weak men. Men who didn't 'just get it', men who need to learn, step by explicit step, how to go from incel loser to reasonably sexually successful. They're despised for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 01:32 AM
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There is no empirical evidence So you're saying that you - a sexually unsuccessful man - have made an honest attempt to apply red pill ideas in your life, and you saw no improvement? Or is it that actually, no, you're just taking potshots from a position of ignorance?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 01:24 AM
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A bunch of circlejerking anecdotes is not the same thing as empirical proof. Fortunately for me I have my own personal experiences to verify the things that you try to blow off as "circlejerking anecdotes". It's also well worth considering that people like yourself have nothing to offer as a counterpoint, except insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 01:18 AM
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I'm active in those discussions. I try to spread awareness. Talking is not doing. At least TRP is giving lame dudes actionable advice on how to improve their situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 01:13 AM
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Being assertive isn't always an unattractive trait. But it usually is in women, because it tends to conflict with femininity. A woman is better off erring on the side of being submissive because it's naturally more feminine. Much like, a man is better erring on the side of not being sensitive. Yes, some men can display sensitivity and still be seen as masculine but the overwhelming majority of 'sensitive' men are pussies. Not interested in outliers. Some lottery tickets are in fact winners, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 01:12 AM
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What beliefs, and methods that are usually attributed to BP, do you have as an RP? None that I can think of. Nobody agrees with an ideology 100%. And this is where you go wrong. TRP is not an ideology. It's a collection of concepts that have been formed by empiricism and some rough theories that have been laid down to explain those empirical results. That's how we avoid the trap of dogmatism, by ruthlessly applying practical concepts. Does this increase sexual success? Does this improve me as a …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 12:57 PM
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I don't understand why red pill men's hate and anger is ALWAYS directed at the gender who suffer so much at the hands of men in this world, and why it's NEVER directed at other men. I could just as easily spin the question back at you and ask you why you're bothering to post here when all those terrible things are going on in the world. Answer is that you care more about how TRP's opinions affect you emotionally than you do about those things happening. All of this sob, sob women aren't giving m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 12:46 PM
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All public rape allegations are false.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 12:34 PM
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People make assumptions all the time about how people "should" have reacted to being raped Carrying around a mattress instead of giving a sworn statement to the cops is pretty clear evidence that there's some bullshit going on. I know you don't want to talk about this specific case because this specific case supports the OP - public rape allegations are false. Fortunately for the male victim of this heinous slander, he kept quiet and endured the harassment from that attention whore and the unive…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 12:33 PM
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Absolutely they do. Look at the epithets that blue pill subreddit uses to describe TRP: neckbeards, virgins, losers. All of them are synonyms for weak men. Those are the worst insults they know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 12:22 PM
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Note that you dropped "assertive" out of that list of traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 12:20 PM
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if you really believed that's how women looked, it's on you for being fooled. To draw this back on topic, the response to the OP is that it's the chick's fault for believing that you're Kevin Costner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 05:06 AM
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I'm not sure it's up to you to decide whether someone has reacted appropriately to being raped. Except that Mattress Girl wasn't really raped, which is the entirety of the point above you're ignoring.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 05:04 AM
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I'll just move on to someone who's comfortable in their sexuality, thanks. That's what TRP calls a freeze out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 04:53 AM
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One of the things that TRP teaches is that men's value to society is in what they produce. From this you can derive some things: The MRM isn't about producing benefit for women, it's about restoring equality - which means in our present female centric times, taking things away from women. Not too many feminists are going to sign up for that. The MRM isn't even doing anything for themselves. They're weak, and weak men are despised. Begging women to let them have back some of their rights and shit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 02:35 AM
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I think a lot of men do like women who are smart and assertive....as long as they're young and attractive of course. And, those same women would be even more attractive if they were feminine and submissive. Yes it's possible to be smart and feminine but in my experience they aren't often found together.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 01:22 AM
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Another case, the woman took over a special needs student, so the posters here taking about the bad boys and jocks Women molesting retards are not the typical 'hot for teacher' scenario. Conflating a woman banging a 17 year old, 6 foot tall 220 pound alpha jock with a woman sticking her hands down the pants of a Downs syndrome kid.
/r/askTRP11/05/15 05:01 AM
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she's young. Stop being a creep If she doesn't want to bang a Daddy figure, presumably she won't. she's not that interested in sex. One way to find that out, right? she's very religious, and is probably looking for someone who shares her beliefs. Or she's primed for throwing off the patriarchal shackles of that ancient faith and going on a journey to find herself. If you know what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 04:56 AM
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In the short run, no. It's all benefits, no downsides. In the long run - maybe. Things can't continue on their present path forever. Either things will stabilize, perhaps leaving men as a permanent underclass, or the system will fail catastrophically in one of several ways (backlash or collapse).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 03:12 AM
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Isn't the whole sex-loving virgin thing about the idea that people are grossed out by thinking someone else has been there before them? For casual dating (plates in red pill language) this doesn't matter. But for long term relationships? Women with lower partner counts are less likely to divorce. You could argue cause versus effect but in the end, putting a ring on the town pump's finger increases your divorce risk substantially. Consider the risk of half of the marital assets plus alimony plus …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 01:43 AM
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Sure. There's been basically two. PUA, which in turn fathered red pill ideas. The red pill takes everything from pickup and adds some besides. The next 'more reliable' thing will in turn eat TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 01:40 AM
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However when there are conflicting ideas the one that is best supported by the evidence is the most rational. Right, so like I said, if a large group of men compare notes and observe similar traits and behaviors in women, then they should act accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 01:15 AM
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As if the English language is a maiden whose virtue needs defending. Reality is that she's a bawdy whore who's always up for something new. Words to distinguish sensing the feelings of others versus sensing the feelings of others and then acting to help them are needed here. I chose those two and made it clear which was which. You can feel free to point me to better ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 09:59 PM
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Unfortunately I don't have a pithy summary for you. However, take a trait such as hypergamy/branch swinging. A man could react in the following ways deny it (blue pill) hate it (red pill anger phase) work to improve himself to the point she won't ditch him (red pill LTR strategy) not care (red pill plate strategy) 2 and 4 above are specifically different ways to express 'bitches ain't shit'.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 09:46 PM
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it seems to me that individual RPillers tend to have different interpretations of it. To recall the song lyrics I linked to, bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks. There are two meanings there. One that might be described as an angry tirade and one that might be described as acceptance of nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 09:19 PM
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You brought up improving relations between the genders. I'm noting that at least half of the audience here isn't interested. Don't let that stop you though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 09:13 PM
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Wearing makeup means the woman is of low value, her genetics aren't good, and she is manipulating your natural subconscious. Lower value. It's a difference in degree that is effectively a difference in kind. Men have less investment in sex that women do since by nature, women bear the majority of the consequences of sex. Men don't have to deal with as severe of consequences of bad babies as women do, so the lizard brain isn't screaming as loud to GTFO as it does to women. Read some of the failed…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 09:11 PM
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We should try to improve the relations between the genders . TRP isn't about improving relations, it's about betas getting their dicks wet. Both the how and the why. That means that the sexual strategy espoused by TRP is adversarial with womens' sexual strategy, since women want to avoid betas. Women want men who 'just get it', not men who need to study and practice and discuss 'it' with other betas. So, you aren't going to get there by lobbying TRP nor are you going to get women to decide that …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 09:06 PM
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You think that wearing make up is the same thing with faking your whole personality ? The implication of that question is that "deceit" isn't the problem in and of itself, but rather the perceived level of deceit. Makeup being something that affects one aspect of a woman's sexual attractiveness while TRP behaviors affect the overwhelming majority of the aspects of a man's sexual attractiveness. Moreover it's worth noting that the example that you find unacceptable is one that could give undesira…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 08:58 PM
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Nobody wants to be deceived I personally don't mind women deceiving me by using hair dye, makeup, getting fake tits, getting liposuction, wearing pushup bras, etc. Like most men I'd prefer the real thing but it isn't like the pictures posted over at that makeupaddicition sub provoke a negative emotional response. Women overwhelmingly are repulsed by the idea of a red piller putting his dick inside them. Deception itself isn't the problem. The problem is deception by a low value man. We just don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 08:30 PM
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That's not why people dislike TRP It's absolutely why some people dislike TRP and I'd go as far as to say that's the reason that the overwhelming majority of women dislike TRP. All of the false theories and gender relations talk aside, no woman wants to get deceived by a beta male wearing the wolves' clothing of an alpha. It's instinctively repulsive to her. Look at an example of blatant misogyny from a high value man. He's not helping gender relations or promoting nice theories about women. At …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 08:08 PM
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I'd make the distinction beween empathy and sympathy. Empathy being knowing how someone else feels, sympathy being taking action to help them. A woman might have empathy for a lame beta, but she's going to feel a fundamental revulsion towards helping a lame beta become a faux alpha. Men are goal oriented. Feelings qua feelings don't matter very much, so "empathy" as in Wow that makes me feel bad doesn't carry much weight. Wow that makes me feel bad, let me help is more what they're looking for. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 07:41 PM
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Can he maximize his SMV and potentially find a woman who will accept him even though he is shorter than average since he has other positive qualities? The difference here is between being short and exposing the fact that you feel a little self-conscious and a little inadequate due to your height. You can't get taller. You can avoid saying things like Do you still like me even though I'm short?.
/r/askTRP10/05/15 07:33 PM
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What if a man tries to minimize his flaws If he's minimizing his flaws then by definition he isn't going to be with someone who "who knew about all of your flaws and still loved you completely". In this case wouldn't there be a woman who would be attracted to his positive qualities and tolerant of his flaws? No. She's attracted to the Alpha characteristics, because she doesn't see the whiny bitch characteristics.
/r/askTRP10/05/15 07:21 PM
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This is a complicated and hypothetical question. It's as complicated and hypothetical as the question of what you'd do if you were wealthy enough to never have to work again. It's as worthless to speculate on as that question for the same reasons - it isn't going to happen. Stop speculating about fantasies and get to work on reality.
/r/askTRP10/05/15 07:04 PM
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Here you go. Turns out it's more of a mix. Most of the dudes are uber-skinny/androgynous hipster types with a couple of doughboys, as you'd expect. Women are split between the dyed hair/tats/piercings, fatties, and some decent lookers. Don't forget to read the comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 06:54 PM
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Won't you find me attractive? Set her up to qualify herself: "You'll have to make up for it in other ways ;)". Unpacking that statement I'm still attracted to you. However you're less desirable than you were before. You have the ability to redeem yourself via sex. This is your opportunity to prove yourself by fucking me the way I want.
/r/askTRP10/05/15 06:35 PM
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That was part of it without a doubt (holy shit these guys might kill me and leave me in the woods if they found me out), but living such a fundamental part of your life as a constant lie has to wear on you. It's no coincidence that the suicide rate for transgender people is a significant multiple of the general population. Gender identity ain't nothing to fuck with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 06:21 PM
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unless you're drawing a specific distinction between empathy and sympathy It's worth making the distinction. A woman might be aware in an abstract sense of the plight of a beta male, but she's damned sure not going to do anything to help him turn himself into a faux alpha, because that thought is revolting to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 06:11 PM
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That comic isn't much of a stretch from Norah Vincent's book. She didn't end up turning her head into a canoe but she did end up checking herself into a mental institution, and her unsurprising conclusion was that women have it easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 06:09 PM
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Consensus of data is important because wise men proportion their beliefs to the evidence. So as a for-instance, if a large group of men compare notes and observe similar traits and behaviors in women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 06:06 PM
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/u/beer77's relationship ladder. Exponentially more difficult at each stage. Achieving and maintaining each stage requires all of the characteristics of the prior plus some new ones: ONS: Be not fat/not fugly + sexually available Plate/casual: Be ONS + not crazy/not a bitch --------------- LTR Line ----------------- LTR: ONS + be good enough to lock me down Marriage: LTR + be good enough for me to bet half my stuff on you Getting above the LTR line requires the kinds of characteristics that blue…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 06:03 PM
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Because I'm just going to have to come to the conclusion that you're ignorant and don't want to answer the question. Wow, that would be awful. You seemed to disagree with this idea You should read what I wrote instead of jumping to conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 09:51 PM
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The answer to the question: But how do you know that women don't do it for themselves and only to attract others? Was given by the prior sentence: I'm sure some people do it simply to attract other people. You are 'sure' that some people do it, yet you raise doubts about that very statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 09:12 PM
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I acknowledge your advice just like a used car dealership "accepts all credit applications". Acceptance is not approval and acknowledgement is not acting upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 08:08 PM
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Why won't people admit to any red pill stuff? It's social ebola. I mean, yeah, I'm sure some people do it simply to attract other people. But how do you know that women don't do it for themselves and only to attract others? You contradict yourself in back to back sentences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 08:06 PM
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This is why red pill aware men disregard the advice of women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 07:41 PM
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She's having pity sex with him so she feels like a good person for doing it. Pity sex once or twice is one thing. A 'pity marriage'? LOL indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 07:35 PM
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I'm aware. I don't want more wannabes mucking up the system. We're of one mind. This is why red pill aware men disregard the advice of women in general. He must be rich as fuck I suspect he does OK, but I doubt he's rolling in a Lambo. have a heart that's so gold a woman will throw pity sex and marriages at him. AKA, game tight as fuck. She thinks he's good in bed too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 07:23 PM
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If they are trying to present themselves as strong, attractive and do it for themselves, I can see that. Outside of the anonymity of the internet, nobody is going to admit why they do what they do. You can bet your bottom dollar that I don't talk about red pill shit in real life. But like, it seems that people don't understand the concept that some women really do just wear make up because they like how it looks on them. It's awfully coincidental that the thing that women "do for themselves" has…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 07:19 PM
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Plastic surgery can't help a stick thin midget. And neither can game. AKA lol just give up already you short fuck. Again, shit/self serving advice. Game + lifting are the two best bang-for-the-buck ways that an AFC can improve. Women don't like to hear that because they want natural alphas, not self made men. Better whip out that counterfeit detector Honey. As a note, I'm pretty sure this stick thin midget has game tight as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 07:16 PM
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There's plenty of dudes with jacked up faces that are banging cute chicks. This kind of 'advice' is why men don't listen to women (don't learn game just get plastic surgery lol).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 07:05 PM
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Except for the fact that it's not useful. Game is far more important than makeup - for men trying to bang women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 06:58 PM
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As it turns out saying 'yeah I'm a feminist too' isn't actually that exhausting. Neither is keeping your mouth shut about TRP. Perhaps feminist types have to work hard to keep their opinions to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 06:57 PM
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You know, sometimes men utilize alpha/high SMV behavior because they like the way it makes them feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 06:55 PM
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Absolutely. So one conclusion that you might come to is that I don't actually have a problem with any of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 06:53 PM
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Were you truly deceived? Not by clown/whore paint, but by 'natural' makeup, absolutely. That's the whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 06:52 PM
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I have zero problem with such deception.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 06:49 PM
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When you date someone, you get to see their morning zombieface pretty quickly. Only after they've deceived you in order to gain sexual access to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 02:53 PM
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RP's seeming almost autistic [...] Any normal person knows that [...] Mental! Well, I'm totally convinced to change my opinion now. What a well reasoned argument!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 02:13 PM
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Not the article - you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 01:58 PM
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Yes. The clear tone of the text in that last advert is that the dames are in the process of flying the coop, so to speak, so men better give their dime piece a piece of iron.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 05:49 AM
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That mindset explains this post plus many of the comments in this thread. Helplessness + indignation. Until you drop the first one, ain't nobody can help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 05:38 AM
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Judging from the firearms shown (early Savage automatic, maybe this one, Iver Johnson hammerless) and the general style, these are no later than ca. 1920, probably a decade earlier. Both ads could easily predate women's suffrage. Here's a great example - check out the language used and tell me that this thing was published in the time of feminism. Our women folk are might independent, now-a-days...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 05:07 AM
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Now how do I get her home safe from school? I dunno, what are your options? Pictures of dykes mean mugging and holding their keys aren't going to help anyone except the people getting paid for clickthroughs. How about moving?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 04:55 AM
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Attempting to kill someone in response to theft is unreasonable. In the state of Texas you can use deadly force to prevent someone from escaping with stolen property. If dude had pushed her out of the car and tried to drive off, she could have killed him and walked in Texas. Don't carjack women in Texas. The judicial system punishes excess force... In most jurisdictions in the USA, a woman stabbing a carjacker with a screwdriver would result in no charges.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 04:49 AM
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A sense of awareness is the best thing she can carry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 04:31 AM
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Here's some gilded cage advertisements from the good old days: Advert Advert
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 04:28 AM
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That is really gross. You're welcome. Now you have the knowledge - what you do with it is up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 11:12 PM
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Absolutely, a woman being slim is more important than a woman being interesting. Given only the two choices, I'd rather fuck a slim (but boring and shallow) woman than a fat (but interesting and complex) woman. The way your ass looks bent over my bed is more interesting to me than your opinions on global politics. I'd rather investigate the depths of your vagina than the depths of your education.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 10:59 PM
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Not you. Gotta love it when the irony gets thick and sticky though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 10:55 PM
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So men are so shallow that they don't care about the character of women......that's not a ringing endorsement. Not what I said. I said that being interesting and complex are don't cares. I said nothing about character. Again: if you want to be seen as interesting and complex then you need to be interesting and complex. However if you're looking for attention from men then you need to put cardio in front of becoming interesting and complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 10:52 PM
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It's how the storage in that television/typewriter thing you use to post on this subreddit is organized.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 10:36 PM
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to be seen as interesting and complex human beings just like men are? The only thing that is stopping you from being seen as interesting and complex is the fact that you aren't either of those things. Thing is though that interesting and complex are don't-care traits in women. They aren't required for women to get by or even to get ahead in life. Moreover, interesting and complex in no way substitute for sexual attraction, which is men's primary motivation for hanging around women. So work on be…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 10:34 PM
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None of those things require a woman. One does for heterosexual men, which is what TRP is about, which is in turn what this subreddit is about. When I go on a date I'm much more open minded about the kinds of activities I'll try. Like, things that don't require a woman, if you know what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 10:25 PM
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You're not interested in going on fun dates, having unique experiences, or meeting interesting people. You're just looking to get your dick wet in the shortest time and effort possible. Only one of those things requires a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 10:04 PM
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which is excellent for extremism to thrive. Is there anyone in TRP that isn't an 'extremist' - at least in comparison to the baseline culture? Dread game, ASD/LMR, alpha fucks/beta bucks - those are all extremist ideas.
/r/TheRedPill08/05/15 09:14 PM
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SRS hates everything. Untrue. I don't see how they're relevant to what we're talking about. That's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 08:34 PM
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Same people, same language as those that hate TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 08:31 PM
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Did you know that seddit used to be hated on with as much vitriol as TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 08:15 PM
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we actually provide people with action plans they can implement to improve themselves. A lot of our philosophy is field-tested and based on tangible realities Which is why TRP is so hated.
/r/TheRedPill08/05/15 07:17 PM
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it makes me mildly misanthropic. I'm not real big on most people. Easy solution for you is to become a shut in.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 04:55 AM
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I don't go yelling at people who do this, but I definitely find it irritating, in the same way that I find men yelling shit at me as I'm out running irritating. I hardly thnk that makes me "insane." Confusing small talk at the checkout line with catcalling is pretty crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 04:47 AM
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Interesting that you trotted out a reddit cliche instead of saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 03:22 AM
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She is quiet the whole time. I ask her if anything is wrong while the six of us are talking. She says no and fiddles with her phone. She's bored or has thought better of him, he makes it worse by asking if anything is wrong. A better response is "Hey you look tired. Must be past your bedtime. I'll drive you back home before the party gets too wild". Make her qualify herself. I reminded her she promised sex and couldn't leave Wrong approach. This is agree and amplify territory, tell her she needs…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 01:41 AM
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should men toughen the fuck up and stop being such a pussy? If men want to get ahead in life, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 01:15 AM
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what the actual fuck did i just read? It's what people call an 'analogy'. The situation described is analogous to the answer to your question and is intended to illustrate the correct answer without literally describing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 01:14 AM
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I think she mentioned in another thread that she's from Greece and that it's a much more conservative culture. Either there are a fuck-ton of Greek chicks hating on TRP - like an overwhelming majority - or there's really another cause, because this attitude is nothing special. Red pill theory would say that this contempt is just another expression of the revulsion that women have for weak men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 01:13 AM
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I suspect that the voters might decide that this needs to be covered on the public dime.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 01:07 AM
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Men will marry down. Men will marry women from lower social classes, women who are less educated than them, women who are immigrants, etcetera. An entire industry exists to do nothing but pair up immigrant women from 3rd world countries with men in 1st world countries. A man can marry a woman who was born in a dirt floored hut in South America and doesn't speak much English and can love and cherish her. A woman doing the same for a man? It fails the laugh test. The reason of course is that the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 01:06 AM
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So 'toxic' equals 'you don't like it'.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 12:48 AM
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is a far cry from wanting a "provider/cash machine". Perhaps - or perhaps they want the potential of such. Can't be much of a stay at home mom if you make 80% of the income.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 12:47 AM
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fewer and fewer are looking for "providers". Women still want a man whom they can look up to. Status and money are by far the two most numerous traits and those overwhelmingly come from a man's job. A male doctor would gladly marry an Applebee's waitress, providing that she's attractive and pleasant. A female doctor marrying a dude who works at Jiffy Lube? Not gonna happen. So what are these women going to do? Marry down - settle for a man they don't respect? Be single? Fight over the tiny pool …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 12:44 PM
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they become more mature and start to appreciate the traits of a beta. AKA, they can't pull the hot dudes they used to, and want someone who makes money for them. And you wonder why red pill men are saying no to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 12:24 PM
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I just don't get how people did not know basic things Doubling down on it, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 12:19 PM
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Let's see: I've been at this job for quite awhile and really need this reference I'm worried about some sort of passive aggressive retaliation I'm worried about her claiming false rape Versus i want to knock her down a notch. Hold your tongue until you get that new job. Continue to hold your tongue so you don't get your car keyed or rape charges.
/r/askTRP07/05/15 03:51 AM
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If I was selling a product, a 10% success rate with buyers would indeed be a success. But it wouldn't mean I know what all buyers want. It would mean I only know what the buyers want who buy my stuff. Yet you'd be a "success". A successful salesman knows his market. Presumably he could say "I know what my market wants" or "I know what buyers want". Doubtful that you'd nitpick him by saying Well you don't know what shoe shoppers in South Africa want as if it were some kind of gotcha, because he'd…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 03:34 AM
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not LTR So red pillers are only catering to some needs of some women? That's quite a retreat from the prior statement. The real answer of course is that the "catering" you want to prove is a side effect of a larger goal. Reminds me a bit of the cargo cults - manna from heaven or whatever being a side effect of completely different goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 03:20 AM
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Why do some men feel so frustrated when they discover TheRedPill theory ? Realizing that you pissed away the better part of two decades of your life in a vain attempt to find happiness, due to the deliberate lies of other people, tends to annoy you slightly. Hearing "common knowledge", "obviously", "obvious", "so what?" and similar condescending phrases thrown around in response is that much icing on the cake. Things like this post and its sneering tone would have torqued me off, once upon a tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 03:12 AM
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tell me how you are different from guys who do things for women, and hope for sex? The difference is success versus failure. it's to the benefit of these attractive women. And to the benefit of the dudes that are fucking them. Thoughts? Your question is a false dichotomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 03:03 AM
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You are actually catering to their needs by becoming attractive enough for them. Wait, so you're saying that red pillers cater to the needs of women - AKA, TRP practices benefit women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 02:54 AM
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AWALT is stereotypical No, it's useful. By your definition it's therefore a generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 01:01 AM
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toxicity Can you define 'toxicity'?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 12:57 AM
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They then think that they have figured out something new (even though it really isn't anything new). I notice how this statement always comes with a subtle dig attached: Look at those illiterates, thinking that they're something special when they teach themselves to read. Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 12:56 AM
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Thus the statement "All trees have leaves" is a useful generalization Useful implies a question - to whom?. I can assure you that AWALT is a useful generalization - to some. The effect of the generalization, however, is to increase people's ability to manipulate nature to human ends, and so like all acts of knowledge this one affects the power balance between knower and thing known. Ding ding ding. What y'all would characterize as malice is pure instrumentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 12:54 AM
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A generalization "may not" reflect reality either, that's why it's a generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 12:43 AM
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Low budget shitboxes are fine. Just don't put kids in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 12:24 AM
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I think what's wrong is stereotypes So the difference between a stereotype and a generalization is that one is bad and one is good?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 12:21 AM
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So what's your success rate picking up women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 12:18 AM
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I don't know. I'm just one fucking person. Like I said, it'll all get sorted out for you. The sorting out will be done by people that you wouldn't invite to dinner though. I just need to get laid. If only there was a subreddit that would help you with that!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 12:36 PM
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Plenty of women do them sequentially.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 02:41 AM
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That's all fine and dandy but does nothing to address the problems that exist right now. Right now Europe has a rapidly expanding population of hard to assimilate and violent Muslim immigrants. Nobody here and now can do anything about the problems from 1000 years ago but they can (and will) do something about the problems that exist right now. Those problems, unfortunately, are people. As for how those problems get sorted out, well, I'd advise looking at some more recent history. The people tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 01:35 AM
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What is the solution though ? I mean stable families are important for society. What should be done to make marriage more appealing to men ? Right now? Nothing, the marriage market is still crashing and the culture is still heavily in favor of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 01:24 AM
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However, other then stuff like wanting someone who is confident, it's hard to generalize half of the human race "Other than the generalizations that are obviously true, you can't generalize".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 01:17 AM
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That's preselection, not dread.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 01:15 AM
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I'd say it probably depends very much on the individual. Someone who's a bit up themselves already will probably respond better to it that someone who's cripplingly insecure. Dread game needs to be calibrated to the target. Dread game can be as subtle as talking about the "funny" waitress at the sports bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 01:14 AM
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it's about self-labeled 'nice guys' who pretend to be nice only in order to get sex from women. Being nice is a shitty sexual strategy. Dudes need to quit being nice and start being fit and forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 02:28 AM
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but they're only getting slammed when they are not 'nice' and only ever pretended to be. Right. They need to learn to be attractive, not be nice. TRP isn't telling these chucklefucks to be nice, we're telling them to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 02:26 AM
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"Slutty Flings or Bingo Wings" is the motto you should go forward with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 02:03 AM
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,nay venomously accuse these men of being the very sort of man that in their calmer moments they claim to defend. Recalling the famous movie scene: You're goddamn' right I ordered the code red!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 12:33 AM
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A significant other should provide love, caring, respect, and sex, and those things are all of fairly equal importance. They are to you. Not to me. If I were to order them it would be sex>respect>caring>love.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 12:26 AM
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Their responses are topical to the comment. You don't like those responses so you want to derail this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 12:23 AM
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"I'm only obese because I want to avoid red pillers". The next evolution of fat acceptance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 12:21 AM
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He said its beta to not start beef with the guy. He thinks I would be a pussy not to confront the guy and says its because i would be too afraid to get in a fight with someone. OK, so you kick his ass. Then he speed dials the cops and you go to jail, lose your job, etcetera. Congratulations on fucking your life up, you'll have more opportunities for fighting in County lockup or State prison. Or suppose that you go and confront the dude and try to fight him over this chick and he produces a pisto…
/r/askTRP04/05/15 04:53 AM
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Anything less than a 75% rate is not enough to say 'this is how most women respond' and anything less than 100% is not enough to sat awalt. "Not enough" - for whom? You? Your opinion matters zilch squat shit because you aren't a man pursuing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 04:35 AM
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There's a difference between pretending that nothing is wrong (ever) and presenting an image of manliness. For instance, suppose you fucked up at work and got yelled at. When someone asks how your day went you could say: 'Fine, nothing is wrong'. 'The boss yelled at me and I feel really bad and I need to cry on someone's shoulder'. 'Things didn't go well. I need to find a way to improve in the future'. Which one of those allows a human connection without you seeming like a big pussy? Inside you …
/r/askTRP03/05/15 08:55 PM
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Do guys who sleep with wives usually confess to the husband when confronted (over the phone) Suppose I'm the dude that's banging your wife on the down low. I don't know you, so I don't know if you're the kind of dude that's going to show up on my doorstep with a handful of .38 Special and a torqued off attitude. Or is it a move that will most likely weaken me? Eh, you're already on the losing side because you confronted her without evidence and she didn't crack. Talking rationally to the dude ca…
/r/askTRP03/05/15 05:47 PM
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What is this behavior? On her part: crazy. Calling you abusive after sex is a hard next - this is not the good kind of crazy, this is the false rape accusation/false domestic violence claim/accidental pregnancy kind of crazy.
/r/askTRP03/05/15 03:52 PM
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You're jumping to conclusions based on observation. Looks like you're about to take some sucker's money with that NFL fullback bet then. Would that there was a way to enforce and collect the bet, I would lay down cash money on no woman making any 52 man NFL starting roster as a fullback in the next 3 years, $10K, 10:1 odds in your favor. Bet a grand to make ten, when I have no science, no stats, just pulling the guess out of my ass. You lose all instrumentality when you accept the bias of prejud…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 02:43 PM
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Sure, we can go with that definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 02:33 PM
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I simply said that you can't know if they're correct without actual evidence. I can't know billions of women but I can know that none of them are going to be an NFL fullback any time soon. I know this enough that I'd bet significant money on it, based solely on the evidence of my observations. There's some kind of infallibility you want to apply to your own perspective Nope. You're confusing infallibility for instrumentality. Don't need to have perfect information to have good enough information…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 02:23 PM
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How is this manipulation of anyone? She's a hooker. To ask the question is to answer it. She's a hooker and is looking to manipulate the most money out of her client with the least effort. Trust me, these men are very much aware They may be fooling themselves. I'd say that they ought to be aware of the situation. It's 100% on them. Seems to me that TRP should be 100% supportive of this. I find it distasteful, but I have a grudging admiration for this woman, like a cop has for a really smart croo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 02:16 PM
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You're perfect for each other. Nobody on TRP is going to be paying a prostitute to not fuck him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 02:11 PM
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Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks has the counterpart of Slutty Flings, Virgin Rings.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 02:09 PM
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And what do you think you proved just now, by redirecting the conversation to the NBA? Upthread, I made an observation solely on my experience, and I said that it applies globally, to billions of people. You agreed that observation was stubborn, close-minded, and you strongly imply it was misogynistic. But when I give a real-world example of that observation you realize that it wasn't really so far off after all. It turns out that observations based on experience really can be applied to billion…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 02:06 PM
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"Slutty Flings, Virgin Rings." For those stupid enough to want to risk half of everything they earn on a woman's love, that's the way to stack the odds in your favor. Find a woman who will pair bond to you, which means zero partners before you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 01:55 PM
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Why do the red pill imagine they understand female sexual response? Overwhelmingly the men that came to TRP have been failures with women. The things they've learned have led them to better success with women. They understand things much better now than they did then. There are general things that generally work with women, Like I said. but you don't fully understand female sexual response unless you're a woman, and then it's only your individual response. Nobody cares about you or any other ind…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 01:52 PM
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I don't know Didn't think you did. Most people know the answer to this one though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 01:11 PM
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It just meant you went outside the terper forum to try to prove a point that was meant to concern only the terper forum. And you conveniently suppose that the attitude illustrated by that link cannot apply to the red pill subreddit. You go, girl!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 01:10 PM
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every man is close to perfection "A lot of upsides and not many downsides" is hardly "close to perfection". It sounds like something a junior real estate agent would write about some beater house.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 04:33 AM
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I agree with latter statement. I figured. Do you suppose that it's the patriarchy that keeps women out of the NFL and NBA?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 04:31 AM
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You spoke about the 'trp subreddit' but quoted a heartiste article to support your claims. How dastardly. I wasn't born yesterday. Yes, you've uncovered the conspiracy, all thanks to your brilliant feminist insight. Belle Knox would be proud.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 04:29 AM
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I didn't say this was something they actively do. Stop being a weasel. You're talking out of your Belle Knox hole and you got caught, just rest it already.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 03:02 AM
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Yep, but the goal of trp is also to increase their numbers. You're flat wrong. Recruiting is not a goal of TRP. You're confusing posts about the organic growth of the red pill subreddit with some ideological goal. The reason is that you think in terms of ideologies, not practicalities. And I'm sure you've seen trpers claim that 'the revolution is coming soon'. To paraphrase Adam Smith: young lady, there's a lot of soon to come first. And that they've got to retrain young women to want marriage i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 01:41 AM
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Red pillers ARE trying to bring about that change. That's where you're wrong. OK, sure. That's why the first rule of TRP is to not fucking talk about TRP. And, if they want to compare themselves to feminism Nobody is making any comparisons of TRP to try to get some of the credibility (snicker) from the feminist movement. You can keep Andrea Dworkin, Belle Knox, and whatever other heroines you have safe, don'cha worry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 01:32 AM
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What are you guys worried about in speaking up? Well... Of course, red pillers aren't trying to bring about that change; It's almost like you didn't really read the OP but found the first thing you had a snarky response to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 12:48 AM
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Read the link in the prior comment.
/r/askTRP03/05/15 12:45 AM
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So he's planting a seed, and it sounds like it's in fertile ground. I still think you need to pull the Ho Facts on this one and see if another driver has a set of keys to the ride.
/r/askTRP02/05/15 11:14 PM
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more reasonable than married RPillers. Many married red pillers came to their senses after they were married and had kids. They're trying to make the best of a bad situation. There's a reason that marriage is discouraged in the main sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 11:07 PM
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Because I judge the rewards to be worth the risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 11:04 PM
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Womens' nature, when enforced by the rule of law, has the potential for ruining civil society. My problems aren't as much with womens' hypergamy, say, than with the divorce laws that gives hypergamy legs and arms and fists.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 10:51 PM
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Why would anyone want to be with a woman I like sex. I like the feelings that come before, during, and after sex. I like companionship. I think that the risks are worth the reward. But I don't pretend to myself that those risks don't exist. It sounds useless to me. Lots of things are useless. The things I create are useless to anyone but myself. They'll never make me money or make me famous. So why create them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 10:46 PM
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Don't think it's rational to hate women for being women any more than it's rational to hate a dog for digging in the trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 10:22 PM
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Very few of us are the rational ubermenschen that we aspire to, honey. Fact is that most people are rationalizing, not rational. Their rational mind isn't the king on the throne, it's that creepy guy whispering in the king's ear: A wise decision, my Lord. Many of the things that you enjoy in life aren't rational. Think of irrational pleasures as risks - which by definition they are. Everyone's recognition of and tolerance for risk is different. Determining how much risk is too much is often diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 10:18 PM
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Would misogyny be the rational thing ? Please define "misogyny".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 10:05 PM
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and every man is close to perfection If you're reading that out of TRP then you're among those whose comments are not to be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 10:03 PM
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Why don't you all go MGTOW and only have casual sex with women and nothing more serious ? Because he's an idealist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 10:02 PM
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Not sure how you can be so certain. This is trickle truth, nigga. This is a little bit of dampness around the faucet level trickle truth. You want to find out for sure? Lay some groundwork by talking about forgiveness and shit, then get her a little drunk and get her to show you the Ho Facts. Honesty is the most important thing. Blah blah lies lies lies forgiveness blah blah we have a special connection blah blah Once that trickle truth starts flowing keep it going and see where it leads you. My…
/r/askTRP02/05/15 06:48 PM
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Care to give an example? People will tell you that they're all patriotic and stuff. To prove it, you can write a check to the US Government. But how many people do that, versus trying to find tax deductions? People care about keeping their money far more than they do providing financial support to Washington DC.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 04:39 PM
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Feminism has nothing to do with boys failing to grow up. There are plenty of masculine feminists who are confident in themselves. This is a problem with fathers failing to teach their sons how to be men. It's different facets of the same problem. Feminism is one of the contributing factors to the continuing destruction of the nuclear family. Children need fathers and they're increasingly absent, or are themselves the product of single mothers and are castrated beta bucks types. These dysfunction…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 03:46 PM
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Why can't they cultivate personal confidence without being bullies? I've got some ideas, but at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter. Red pill concepts work and they work better than what average frustrated chumps have tried before. And that's even scarier. All the more reason for me to double down on keeping my mouth shut about TRP in real life. It's like being a black person hoping that the people you're hanging out with aren't secretly wearing white robes and hoods under their clothes…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 03:27 PM
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Why can't men do the same? Because TRP is full of lame men trying to be less lame. Bitching about bitches for being bitches is part of the process of shedding the feminist blue pill conditioning that made them lame in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 03:05 PM
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What you call "misogyny lite" I call confidence and lack of pedestrianization. Po-tay-to, po-tah-to. Assuming the masculine leadership role does not make a man misogynistic, believing women are inferior is what misogyny is. And believing that women are inferior is a great way for men who were raised on and indoctrinated into feminism to achieve confidence and a lack of pedestalization. Why shouldn't I fear men who hold these views? Which leads to the practical point which is that as long as they…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 03:03 PM
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How about things like dread game, breaking down ASD/LMR, etcetera?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 02:10 PM
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Humans get shot everyday. Can you say the same thing about getting eaten? Or is that reserved for food, which let me explain, is not human? OK, so just to be clear, you're fine with men shooting women, but not fine with men then cooking and eating those women. /u/ashurdashur, everybody!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 02:06 PM
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you will never know if all or even most women are "like that" The irony is pretty thick with that comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 01:21 AM
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Women aren't useful Aren't useful for what? There are good arguments that people should hate women Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 11:23 PM
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That's because that TRP is about real life results, not ivory tower speculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 11:20 PM
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they try to shame me for my hypergamy. I'm not seeing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 10:27 PM
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OK, so.. what exactly? I'm saying nobody's trying to shame you and you're saying that you're shameless.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 10:14 PM
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okay, fine, then stop proclaiming to know why it works? Because making useful predictions based on theories possible, even though you may not have perfect information. That's the difference between experimentation and wardialing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 10:13 PM
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TRP isn't even talking to you. Nobody from TRP is out there campaigning for women to be satisfied with whatever beta schlub that they're temporarily settled for. TRP advises to watch your Ps and Qs if you're in a relationship because women are hypergamous and are looking to branch swing on your lame ass. So don't be a lame ass. Now if you feel ashamed because some part of your lizard brain is looking for a hotter/taller/richer guy even though you know you 'should' be satisfied with that guy who'…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 10:06 PM
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Hypergamy is a woman's nature. If 'some' people can't come to terms with that, not my problem. Not concerned with outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 09:57 PM
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You miss the point of the analogy. The mice voted to bell the cat and then someone had to go and do it. No volunteers. Likewise with ending woman suffrage or whatever. Are you going to campaign for such using your real name and real face in real life? No, because it's a fool's errand and career suicide to boot. Me neither.
/r/TheRedPill01/05/15 09:55 PM
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why is hypergamy shamed? Dude just got through telling you that nobody's shaming chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 09:44 PM
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Who bells the cat?
/r/TheRedPill01/05/15 09:42 PM
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Surgery in the pre-anesthesia days was better than letting people die in agony from bladder stones. Didn't mean that there weren't problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 09:23 PM
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Against Woman Suffrage is worth reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 09:22 PM
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I get kick out of middle class white kids thinking they found out something new with red pill. It is new - to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 09:20 PM
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I have seen many RPillers say that there are no unicorns or snowflakes. All Lottery Tickets Are Losers isn't technically true but it's a far better guideline for living your life than spending your savings on lotto tickets. If you want to bet your savings on proving ALTAL wrong, go be my guest.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 09:19 PM
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Saying that you do "what works" by changing all of these things together is like saying bears are attracted to campsites with tents and sleeping bags because bears tend to invade camps that have tents, sleeping bags, and food lying around. And a conclusion a practical minded person might come to is to not go camping in bear country. Those of you that would refuse conclusions without statistically significant, double blind experiments repeated by an independent research team would lead to a bumpe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 09:16 PM
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It's not that anyone can be shredded, dude. People like you just have it real easy. That's some serious bullshit. Nobody that is cut "has it real easy". They've put in hard work and have major self discipline and have practiced those things for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 09:07 PM
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I can't give them a 22 point guidebook because it wouldn't work for them all, neither does it work for everyone. You assume since every person is a snowflake that there isn't any specific advice that works, overwhelmingly and in general. You then go on to give slightly more specific advice. The more I ask, the more you offer, but I have to pry it out piece by piece. Meanwhile TRP has a toolbox of concepts and ideas, as well as application experience - what's a wrench, why you want to know what a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 09:04 PM
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It's one thing to admit, "In my experience, X seems to be Y." It's another thing to hold your own perspective as so omnipotent that you can talk about billions of people all over the world with the certainty that, "X is Y." Suppose the misogynist states that his opinion applies globally, to billions of people. You would therefore diagnose him with stubborn close-mindedness. You want something that obviously appears to be true. Not to you. You don't know if women outside of your experience are ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 08:56 PM
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What leads people to automatically assume bad things about a low status man? The red pill answer is evolution. Women instinctively are repulsed by low status men because low status = bad genes = bad babies. Consider how an action by a high status/attractive man is a panty wetter but the same action by a low status/unattractive man is "creepy". It's not the action, it's the person. Men need a capable man by their side - when you're going out to spear mammoths or whatever, some pussy is going to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 12:57 PM
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I'm talking about opinions which have no factual or statistical backing. Suppose the misogynist admits that this is based solely on his own observations. Is he wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 12:47 PM
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They can be helped by improving their lives, ( see getmotivated/so on) and going to traditional relationship columnists for help. I recommend Dr. Nerdlove. One sentence with a vague platitude ("just get better") and two recommendations to "go talk to other people". And the blue pill subreddit isn't even giving that out. Hilarious because it's not actually that hard Like I said - you're not interested in helping lame men, you're interested in shaming them. WTF bro just go do it, what's wrong with…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 12:46 PM
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Should I even care if they are mentally ready for sexual experiences? They're legal. Also, is there a difference if they're 18 or 3 months away from turning 18? One might not be legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 12:51 PM
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noticed how redpill is always downvoted outside of redpill? Unlike, say, memes and rage comics? If the default front page of reddit is your standard then I don't know how to help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 02:10 AM
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Okay, so betas and incels looking to improve their lives are gonna be helped by the "lots" of men and women of the blue pill subreddit - how exactly? Answer is that they won't be helped because those people there aren't interested in improving the lives of lame males.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 01:21 AM
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Misogyny is already wrong because it means all opinions formed regarding gender issues are based on faulty, heavily biased logic. Suppose that a misogynist states that in his opinion, women in general are less capable athletes than men. Is he wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 01:19 AM
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I was just going to leave it all hanging there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 12:56 PM
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That objection has the flavor of Well a coin isn't just heads or tails, it might land on the edge. Technically true, but useless in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 05:09 AM
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Cool. Meanwhile, TRP has this toolbox of practical ideas that they're giving away for free. No need to mention them in real life or even post on forums, just read some stuff and apply it. Ever heard of the 1-9-90 rule? Consider that when you're busy stashing away the latest collection of screenshots.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 04:28 AM
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You guys are kind of the reason there are still people out there saying men are pigs. I've been called worse by better. Meanwhile TRP has that toolbox of practical ideas over there. What do you have, again?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 04:19 AM
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Enough already One off the cuff example was enough to knock your nonsense out of the park. Now we can take that example and attempt to distill some principles from it. Why didn't mattress girl call the cops and instead went on a public attention grabbing spree? Because she was a lying attention whore. Why doesn't wall-o-text girl call the cops instead of going on a public attention grabbing spree? Well.... I'm not particularly educated on her situation You've heard mattress girl until you're sic…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 04:18 AM
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Your outraged hysterics are mere wind when compared with a toolbox of practical ideas. At the end of the day your screeds and carefully hoarded screen captures mean as little against TRP as those downvotes you're doling out. Part of the reason that you're upset is that you know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 04:09 AM
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It's not skepticism. It's mocking someone. Should we not have mocked mattress girl, also? This shit doesn't fucking happen. Except when it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 04:05 AM
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But I see so much "cock carousel" Knowing about the existence of the cock carousel produces better results. So much "male honor" Having a sense of honor towards your fellow men produces better results. So much laughing at alleged rape victims Knowing that, as a rule of thumb, public rape allegations are false (see: mattress girl) produces better results. [why no video/why no scientists telling me things] It's possible for things to work without a formal science and without video evidence. It's s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 04:02 AM
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Maybe it is hard to understand - for you. Lemme just repeat myself until it sinks in. Being 'a beta' is a bad thing. Displaying some beta behaviors in a long term relationship is necessary for stability of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 03:52 AM
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A stable long term relationship needs a mix of alpha and beta behavior. Displaying some beta behavior doesn't make you 'a beta'. Use your context clues. This stuff is not that hard to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 03:49 AM
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TBP has no evidence. [screed] Nice emotional persuasion. Now, you want to know the funny part? The funny part is that you don't even realize that "look at these screenshots of shitlords being shitlords" doesn't actually answer the OP's challenge: In order for TBP viewpoint to work they must already be able to point to the fact that TRP is debunked or disproven which they haven't been able to do. You present 'evidence' of 'misogyny' as a 'refutation' because you truly, honestly, believe that it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 03:43 AM
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he would deserve it. Classic. I can see someone laughing at "internet tough guys" from here, by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 02:05 AM
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If my little brother said some of the shit I've seen on TRP I'd probably slap him. Threats of physical violence from women with poor self control is one of the many reasons not to talk about TRP in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 01:42 AM
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It means that hypocrisy is not a concern of mine. Recommended reading: A disquisition on hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 01:30 AM
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"It'll be healthier for the baby - you know, with your weight and all".
/r/TheRedPill28/04/15 04:10 AM
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I have to wonder if she read the sidebar or not. How many of the blue pill types here have? This subreddit is AskTRP's semi-retarded cousin - red pill summer school.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 02:20 AM
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The only issue is if the man is a slut and expects his future lover to not be. Then he is a hypocrite. The only issue is if a woman is short and expects her future lover to be taller than her. Then she is a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 01:28 AM
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The big 4 are Looks, Money, Status, Game. Of those the most important is Game, not only because you can get by on game alone, but because bad game will sink you. Not recognizing when teasing goes from fun to humiliation = bad game. Pretty funny that a national level politician has lame game. Bill Clinton on the other hand was getting his dick sucked by the chubby intern on the regular.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 12:57 AM
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A better question is "why concern yourself with outliers?" If the question is heads or tails, the fact that the coin just might land on its edge is useless in practice. It's true, but still useless. Not gonna win many coin flips calling 'edge'.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 12:48 AM
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I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 12:47 AM
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even though I would prefer scientists to talk about these things, not Pick Up internet gurus Dude from that comet mission got publicly crucified for doing nothing more than wearing a shirt featuring gals with tig ole' biddies on it, and you're hoping to see red pill ideas examined in public? In any case, empirically derived information wrapped in rough theories is good enough to get empirical results. Last time I checked anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 12:46 AM
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If it's in our nature to respond in certain ways, why do some people don't ? What's wrong with them ? If it's in a woman's nature to get pregnant and have babies, why are some women lesbians?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 12:40 AM
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Like 2Pac said, Don't blame me, I was given this world, I didn't make it. I'm not here to save society or tear down the system. I'm here to live my life as best I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 12:30 AM
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/r/AsianMasculinity
/r/askTRP27/04/15 02:24 AM
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But if one thing, it shows that this company is willing to get into a PR shit storm to back up their product. I think that the company (correctly) guesses that fatties are not the target demographic of "Protein World" and is placing their bets accordingly. No amount of supplication is going to make fat bitches buy weight loss supplements from them.
/r/TheRedPill27/04/15 01:59 AM
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Yep. https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/08/15/poolside-in-america/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 01:42 AM
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And, things that don't matter to me, don't matter to me. Such as the appeal of TRP to the great masses of men. The impact that red pill ideas have on others is literally of no concern to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 11:14 PM
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TRP has had an enormous impact on what matters to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 10:45 PM
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There are tons of political implications in red pill ideas. That doesn't necessarily mean appealing to the masses though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 10:28 PM
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If no sex, then no relationship. Sex is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 10:26 PM
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Nobody is trying to appeal to the masses with red pill ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 10:18 PM
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Right, there are active disincentives toward pursuing the values that lead to traditional stable societies. Tell some dude to to college and study hard in order to amass 6 figure debt in order to work 45+ hour weeks at a job you hate in order to marry a woman to whom you're the best she can do, so that you can get a mortgage and another 6 figure debt so you can have kids so you have to keep working that job so you can amass equity in the house, just in time to get divorced and lose the house and…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 08:53 PM
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There are degrees. Personally I'm not making plans beyond the end of my own life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 08:39 PM
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You think the stuff guys message to girls on okcupid is cringeworthy, but the rare time a girl messages me it's honestly the dullest conversations ever Because men are highly visual and are the initiators. An attractive woman's game is a sideways glance. A plain woman's game is "Hello".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 08:10 PM
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Certain practical ideas come inevitably from TRP theory. What ideas individuals choose for their own lives can vary. For instance, "Slutty Flings/Virgin Rings". Sluts are for fucking, not marrying. Low partner count women, ideally virgins, are for marrying. One could pursue either, both, or neither of those though. That's not for TRP theory to say although many have strong opinions one way or another. You can see how one pithy phrase summarizes many ideas, and how which of those ideas a person c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 08:04 PM
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Where do you find that, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 07:31 PM
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It's almost like TRP isn't some monolithic cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 07:30 PM
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Maybe. Cultural malaise is hard to diagnose.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 05:54 PM
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Men are not machines that you put sex coins into and get relationships out of.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 05:51 PM
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But what's his plan for when he has a beer gut and a receding hairline? The dude in the video probably isn't thinking past tomorrow. Here's what he might do. Lower his standards to what he can attain. Plenty of divorcees out there with no man and no prospects. Find enjoyment in things other than women - if he can't surf, find something that gives him pocket money and doesn't take much effort. Get diagnosed with 100% disability and live off the gub'mint.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 05:45 PM
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the model will only for those who want to work hard, and only then can they reap the benefits More importantly this is for those who want to work hard and may never reap material benefits. Suppose you work all your life on a family and paying off a mortgage and putting your kids through college so that they don't have to dig ditches and all of that. Your legacy is in the quality of the lives of your kids and grandkids, and their children. Most people aren't set up for such long term thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 05:41 PM
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yet also look for a traditional marriage when they want to settle down , Slutty Flings, Virgin Rings is the male equivalent of Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks. which is pretty hypocritical in my opinion. TRP is looking out for number one, not presenting a moral philosophy. Pro tip: don't be Beta Bucks or Slutty Flings, those are the long term losers in the sexual marketplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 05:38 PM
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Is it growing in number? Don't know. Given that TRP advises against marriage/kids in the Western world and its current legal climate, my answer is "probably". Disproportionately to the number of men who discover the RP? Don't know. One indicator is the relative size of the married red pill subreddit and the main. But the drive to get married and have kids is strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 05:33 PM
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The Red Pill is the recent flawed attempt to achieve that model by those in the lower-to-upper middle classes. Yes and no. A significant subset of TRP is what I call poolsiders. Read what's behind that link if you haven't already. There won't be a legacy for the poolsiders. Rome's burning and we're refilling our glasses.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 05:10 PM
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RP's seem to think women don't need to bring anything to a relationship other then occasionally open their legs. What kind of relationship are you talking about? One night stand: Willingly open your legs, don't be fat/fugly. Casual/plate: In addition to ONS criteria, don't be crazy/a bitch. ------------ LTR line ------------ LTR: In addition to plate criteria, bring a net positive to my life. Make it better to be with you than without you. Make yourself better than other women. Marriage: Be LTR …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 05:03 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 04:55 PM
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eugenical approach Not really in favor of breeding women out of the human race. I can see how feminist discussions could come to that conclusion though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 04:31 PM
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No, but it does have great import to the direction of the argument. I'm well aware of the fact that the most persuasive arguments are based on emotion and not reason. The only "feels" I have right now is disgust. Which overwhelms you to the point that you can't process anything else. Feels before reals.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 04:19 PM
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The fact of the matter is, you are using language and iconography that aligns you with those who are maliciously sexist Translation: the tone/imagery/language is the argument - at least, all of the argument that matters. Feels before reals.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 03:43 PM
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My refusal to care about hurt feelings isn't dodging accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 03:12 PM
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You're on the right track regarding the OP's attempt at establishing the line between hostile and benevolent sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 03:07 PM
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She's standing awkwardly because she's uncomfortable. She's uncomfortable because she knows she doesn't look good.
/r/TheRedPill26/04/15 02:54 PM
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Very little of most peoples' real lives contain feminist discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 02:36 PM
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Lemme know when you're finished editing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 03:46 AM
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Seems more likely to be a shakedown target. That's a nice legacy you got there, it'd be a shame if someone cried rape in the media. A better example would be someone of demonstrable SMV like a rapper. He can rap about slappin hoes or whatever and women are still lining up to get on his dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 03:41 AM
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That's fine. Feels before reals, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 03:34 AM
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There's two on the front page right now, one of them on the sidebar.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 12:45 AM
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Why would I care how many people are "wandering around" who falsely believe that all men naturally desire to rape & kill others? It's amazing how poorly you folks read. I can see the phrase "significant segment" from here and you squeal about "all" and "false beliefs". Shaking my head here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 12:43 AM
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That's a lot of words to say "no, I have nothing to say about it".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 12:41 AM
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I don't think people call TRPillers rapists Take a gander at that blue pill subreddit sometime. Half their posts are screaming rape about TRP. Because TRP is full of low value men. Meanwhile, Dr. Dre can rap for 20 years about beating women and still sell out concerts. He's not hurting for money and I highly doubt he's hurting for pussy. High value man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 12:40 AM
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it doesn't really answer my question Your question was rhetorical. At best. More likely though it was an attempt to shame the user into silence, hence your snark about "you sound like a winner". I'm not sure why you are directing your statement at me. You ought to consider how many of those "sounds like winners" are wandering around out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 12:35 AM
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Nope. Didn't think so. In fairness there are about a half dozen other people in this thread with their backs up about their hurt feelings and nothing substantive to say. excuse yourself for blatant misogyny. Let's assume that I'm a blatant misogynist. Now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 12:30 AM
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TRP gets called rapists and abusers for discussing far less. Again, the value of the man is what determines whether an action is good or bad. High value man doing it = get wet Imagined average/ow value man doing it = creepy Perceived low value men discussing sexual strategy = revolting, rapists, abusive
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 12:28 AM
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Like I said upthread, care to post a response to the meat of the content?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 12:25 AM
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Of course it isn't about rape, the male is extremely high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 12:24 AM
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There's a significant segment of society that is kept in check solely by the existence of modern policing and modern communications. Consider areas hit by natural disasters or civil unrest. Everyone knows order is going to be restored in weeks if not days, yet property crime runs rampant. Now imagine if those same people knew that the cops weren't coming - ever again. What then? Civil society is a thin veneer on some really ugly stuff. Again this is one of those truths that can't be spoken in po…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 12:20 AM
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Women want to be raped by a high value man ala 50 shades. They don't want to get their teeth punched out and their asshole pushed in by a gang of hep-C riddled cretins. Men want to fight and win. They don't want to spend 12 weeks in infantry combat, underfed, sleep deprived, never having dry feet, watching their toes rot off, fighting against men as miserable as they are, to further the political interests of people who neither know or care that they live or die. Turns out that fantasies are oft…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 12:17 AM
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Nobody in their right mind would discuss red pill ideas in real life. I discuss gender a lot. I guarantee that you're a fringe case at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 10:23 PM
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If that is true then does the fact that people enjoy violent video games like far cry series, COD etc mean that they secretly want to kill people in real life ??? lol , it sounds stupid to me This is another one of those things that can't be said out loud in polite society: Men in general want to fight and win. Winning a fight feels good in a very primal way. Look at the historical record of any frontier society. Look at military recruitment. Look at the popularity of MMA and the NFL. Look at th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 10:22 PM
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I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 10:03 PM
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Its TRP. If you can apply an analogy to your statement, no matter how inappropriate or malformed, your statement is automatically correct. This comment is plain circlejerking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 07:52 PM
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Seems straightforward enough. Thanks for the downvotes by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 07:49 PM
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Consider that TRP needs to study and practice this manipulation. There's no comparable equivalent for women. That strongly suggests that women are naturally better at manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 07:43 PM
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It's not your tone, it's your imagery. It'd be like a KKK member I'm not going to apologize for the imagery I choose or the emotional upset it induces in you or anyone else. The meat of those two paragraphs is the first sentence of the second paragraph. Can you focus on a response to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 07:42 PM
1

Yep. Now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 07:38 PM
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Given what you said, should women be subordinate to men? Top-down social engineering is a bad idea in general. Men should ensure that they retain the upper hand in relationships with women. Women that don't like that should be able to pick up their skirts and leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 07:36 PM
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"Strongly suggests". Occam's Razor isn't a syllogism, it's a handy rule of thumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 07:32 PM
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Both are inherently violent Easy there Mike Vick. /s You could try rebutting the idea that women are incompetent and inferior to men in many (not all) areas by showing me that there are no areas where women are inferior to men. That'd show me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 07:30 PM
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We're splitting hairs over the question How much "nurture" does it take for something to be "nature"? That's a chicken and egg argument. If you want to take the position that nothing is nature because it's all nurture, that's fine. Best case for you is that women have a multigenerational head start on this one though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 07:28 PM
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OK, so you don't like my tone. I'm not going to apologize for my tone or moderate my words to cater to your feelings. Anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 07:25 PM
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Your question is nonsense hyperbole. If you want to produce something topical in response to what I said, I'll address it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 07:24 PM
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Therefore I said "strongly suggests". I'm treating it like a working theory. There are other things to think about as well. Consider little kids on the playground. The boys are roughhousing, the girls are sitting around and talking. Socializing. Practicing. The real problem that y'all have with TRP isn't that people are doing this kind of thing, it's that it's being discussed without shame. Thanks to the internet people can talk about this kind of stuff out in the open. It's a serious social fau…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 07:23 PM
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OK, so women have taught one another how to be manipulative for generations. 100K men are just now getting on the train. Again that implies that women are better at it than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 07:19 PM
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Not sure what your point is, since nowhere in those two paragraphs did I apply that kind of comparison to women. I said that women are incompetent and inferior to men in many areas. Step back and think for a second about what your response implies. I calmly make a few statements. Your response is incredibly hyperbolic, unwarranted, and not topical. Obviously I pushed an emotional button on you. Not intentionally but at the same time I'm not going to apologize or moderate my tone for you. Care to…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 07:18 PM
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Most of us are taught this stuff from our mothers and them form their mothers. That was a direct reply to me talking about manipulation. "This stuff" that your mommy taught you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 07:12 PM
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Since women generally pick up social cues better than men, Isn't that just a positive way of saying that women are better at manipulation than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 07:02 PM
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You could make the case that men are more manipulative because they put time and effort into learning how to do it because they take it more seriously. You mean men as in the 100K subscribers to TRP? In other words about zero percent of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 07:01 PM
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How can anyone take you seriously when you compare women to dogs? How can anyone take you seriously when you have nothing to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 07:00 PM
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Comparing adult women to dogs and children in terms of value and ability is the epitome of hostility, you boob. I thought that name calling and downvoting were banned on this subreddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 07:00 PM
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The fact you compared women to dogs...speaks volumes. The fact that you don't have a coherent response...likewise speaks volumes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 06:59 PM
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I understand what it is and what is it's purpose, but i can't think of good examples of it. Breakup: "It's not you, it's me" translated I can do better than you. Workplace: "We have to do what's best for the organization" translated You're getting fired because we're sick of you. Politician: "I'm tough on crime" translation Niggers scare you? Me too. Let's put them in jail. Also, how can one even generate powertalk in live conversation? Understatement and implication. Consider dog whistle politi…
/r/askTRP25/04/15 06:28 PM
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doesnt RP rely heavily on manipulation?? negging, dread game....thats about as manipulative as you can get Consider that TRP needs to study and practice this manipulation. There's no comparable equivalent for women. That strongly suggests that women are naturally better at manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 06:21 PM
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Hostile sexism, on the other hand, represents overt antipathy or dislike of women. E.g., the ideas that women are incompetent and inferior to men. Dogs are incompetent and inferior to men as well. Recognizing that doesn't make me a dog hater, quite the opposite. Dogs are great - as long as you treat them like dogs and allow them to be dogs. Don't try to make them surrogate children. Likewise children are incompetent and inferior to men. They're "wonderful but weak" - physically and mentally. Not…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 06:19 PM
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the careers of the "journalists" that white knighted for her. I feel zero sympathy for those pukes. They could have done some due diligence but they chose to chase the easy money/big story. They're as much at fault as she is.
/r/TheRedPill25/04/15 05:43 PM
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i think both polygamy and hypergamy should be legal and socially acceptable. You've got one of those two.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 02:28 PM
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The devil is in the details. The easy solution is to not tell anyone about it. Then you get a free pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 04:08 AM
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I'm an attractive guy with a good job who gets looks from women; this does make my fiancée jealous sometimes Translation: you have natural passive dread game running. The intent of instilling that dread is the difference. Alas, beggars can't be choosers. You can afford to turn your nose up at learning game, but lame dudes can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 04:07 AM
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If I cared for your opinion I'd state that I was engaging in self improvement, out having fun, casually dating, teasing, etcetera. I'd sugar coat my words and engage in plausible deniability. Just like all socially adept people do - they're dishonest and manipulative (or they're polite and tell white lies and moderate their tone - whichever set of words sounds better to you). Here on the internet though there's no penalty for honesty except y'all pressing that little 'don't like' arrow over ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 04:02 AM
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What do RedPillers think about the traditional idea of people not having sex until marriage ? Probably leads to stronger marriages. Should we start encouraging that idea ? Don't care. It would probably solve many problems, like the dropping marriage rates, promiscuity etc. Those things aren't problems for dudes who don't care about marriage and do care about casual sex. Just the opposite in fact. Also, would you say TRP is traditionalist ? Define traditionalist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 12:38 AM
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I guess I did. Now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 02:54 AM
2

Have you tried not arguing with monkeys?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 02:42 AM
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Have any of you tried questioning validation itself? "Have you ever tried just giving up?"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 02:28 AM
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why do red pillers need a literal step by step guide Because we're lame. Any other questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 02:25 AM
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If an ugly girl said that she wanted you to commit to her because she is nice, you would probably say "stop thinking you can buy commitment with niceness, I'm not a vending machine. " Actually I wouldn't, because I'm not such an asshole that I'd feel it necessary to shame an ugly woman. Moreover I recognize the transactional nature of relationships and wouldn't get my back up over someone being blunt about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 02:24 AM
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It creates desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 02:16 AM
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It is destained because it cuts through the bullshit and tells shit how it is. A TRP principle is that women despise betas and have an instinctive revulsion to reproducing with them (bad genes = bad babies). Following that logic then the rationale for TRP being hated is that TRP teaches betas how to appear alpha, which induces revulsion and hatred in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 04:11 AM
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"let him do what he wants to you in the bedroom or your marriage will end." That's because those are her choices. Sometimes in life there are no good choices - just less bad ones. In this case, if she wants to salvage her marriage she needs to submit to her husband. It's not the red pill womens' fault that OP got herself into this situation, they're just telling her how to (maybe) get out of it. It's literally time for her to fuck or walk.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 03:59 AM
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Trying to follow your logic. Seems like you'd have been fine with husband either applying dread game to her, or dropping divorce papers on her out of the blue, but it's his explicit warning of the consequences that you have the issue with?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 03:00 AM
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Then again, when you look at the people on TRP, you realize pretty quickly their only hope is shit like a "dread game." It's not "a dread game" but "dread game". 'Game' in context is not one thing but a manner of acting towards a goal. And in fact, being an 'interesting, worthwhile human being' is itself nice passive dread game.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:50 AM
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You know, the people whose opinions matter. You rant against TRP yet say this kind of thing with a straight face. Pretty funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:40 AM
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Me too. Threats of divorce are going to get you dry and grudging pussy at best. Talk about "Amy the waitress at the sports bar" and how "funny" she is? That'll get your dick sucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:37 AM
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Doesn't really matter, what matters is that I was threatened with the consequence of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:35 AM
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What she was being told was to consent to it for a while and see if she can salvage her fucked up marriage. Consenting to sex isn't abuse of either flavor. I guess being told this kind of thing does hurt OP's feelings - waa waa big bad TRP ruined my marriage sure sounds better than My marriage is so fucked up my husband had to go on the internet for advice. But hurt feelings aren't abuse either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:33 AM
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I was threatened with the consequence of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:12 AM
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they clearly don't want to fuck you & you should probably leave them alone. This is what dread game is for. You cannot negotiate desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:10 AM
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I'm just noting your equivalency. Guess my ex-wife abused the fuck out of me, since she screeched about divorce every fucking week for a while there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:08 AM
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Physical abuse? Men are at a severe legal disadvantage in this culture, therefore TRP doesn't recommend smacking a bitch up. You can assume that when TRP talks about men keepin' they pimp hand strong, it's metaphorical.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 01:53 AM
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OK, so threats of divorce are equivalent to violent crimes. Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 01:52 AM
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Lots of things are problems - hypothetically.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 01:39 AM
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Round to the nearest percent, TRP has zero percent influence on society.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 01:34 AM
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Fucking make me tough guy It's in your best interest - as your continued responses show. You can lead a woman to water, but can't make her think.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 01:22 AM
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Only because you regressives are holding us back. How is TRP holding you back?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 01:16 AM
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why don't they admit their extremist elements and do something about them ? Because neither TRP nor '/u/beer77 on reddit' care enough to "do something" about the content from TRP that hurts your delicate girl feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 01:14 PM
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TRP acts like cult, they prey on weak men who aren't doing well and says we have all the answers you just need to swallow this little red pill. One problem with your analogy is that TRP doesn't demand loyalty or secrecy or transfer of your worldly goods to the church. Here it is, take it or leave it. Fuck or walk, and the manosphere doesn't care which. The problem is that TRP doesn't change the game it changes the player. The game isn't going to be changed any time soon. You can choose how succe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 12:59 PM
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Whining about your personal situation, how you can't get women because "X" reason, is banned. Bitching about how all bitches be like that (e.g., they be bitches) is generally not banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 12:48 PM
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TRP has banned posts regarding whining about your race, height, being crippled, and/or other factors outside of your control. TRP has not banned posts regarding advice specifically directed toward low SMV races, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 12:45 PM
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Sounds like a great way to get doxxed. Keep red pill stuff out of real life.
/r/askTRP19/04/15 06:18 PM
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I'm pretty lame myself so I somehow understand them. Like I said, the snide little LOL you threw in there speaks volumes about your lack of empathy. What you are shouts so loudly that I cannot hear what you say, etcetera.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 04:15 AM
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These are my thoughts, what do you think ? I think that you've never been a lame/awkward/unconfident/socially retarded male, and that you lack empathy for the problems of those men (for instance that snide "lol" of yours speaks volumes).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 02:22 AM
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What makes him bad? Deadbeats, bums, criminals, etcetera. That attitude will get you farther with a certain subset of women. Just wanted to clear that up. Nobody is going to take advice from someone who "considers sexual strategy to be beneath me". Just stop talking already.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 05:11 PM
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Thoughts on this post? Short and mostly to the point. To respond to the cherries you picked out for us: "Because if women chase bad men and ignore good men, Close enough. A woman would rather have a bad attractive man than a good unattractive man, and many traits that are bad are also attractive - to women. Putting on the clothes of a jerkboy would be an improvement for most lame dudes. then women are fucked up creatures and society should control them for their own damn good (as well as our own…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 02:07 AM
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In English, words can have both literal and colloquial meanings.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 03:26 AM
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I would love to see the ways TRP are investing in changing real problems. The real problems that TRP is interested in are the real problems that both affect their one-and-only lives and that they can influence - how to avoid becoming Beta Bucks, how to become Alpha Fucks, etcetera. Problems of single mothers raising sluts with daddy issues and similar aren't going to be solved by individual efforts, but individual effort can still get that young slut to open her legs for Daddy. The short of it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 02:47 PM
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It "seems" that way to you only because you hold feelings as high or higher than doings. I invite you to look closer and see how much the people discussing these problems are investing in changing those problems, as opposed to changing themselves. Talking isn't doing, reals are in fact more important than feels. For you, feelings and doings are one and the same - or at least, your doings are highly influenced by your feelings, and your feelings tell you that you have done doings, even when you h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 02:34 PM
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NGAF answers most of the questions you pose. Poolsiders can and do recognize the problems wrought by feminism and marriage 2.0 and so on, while doing nothing except stepping around them or using them to their advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 02:04 PM
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Women in general want to look up to a man. If she starts off by marrying down/settling, then puts on the pants to drive the relationship in the direction she wants, how happy is she going to be? The linked article even hints at this - None of you should have to be your boyfriend’s caretaker. Never mind how the husband will feel, being the designated diaper changer/sperm donor(*). Basically, don't bet your marriage and your kids' future psychological well being on experimenting with gender roles,…
/r/TheRedPill15/04/15 01:42 PM
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This post is here to discuss between male of the best way to "treat" this "issue". Like the article says about these chicks: really high chemistry, really fun to work with, probably really fun to have affairs with. Notice that even Ms. Alanis Morissette understands the place of these women - fuck toys, not wives. That's as far as men need to be concerned - don't put the ring on, Frodo! Deal with these chicks when you find them in the workplace as a combination of woman and man. Bang them outside…
/r/TheRedPill15/04/15 01:31 PM
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that of barflys looking to hook up. Yes, TRP only works on barflys looking to hook up. All other women are impervious to it. No other women except barflys looking to hook up want dominant, confident, fit men. So the scientist friend who I spent an hour talking James Joyce and David Foster Wallace with is actually an NAWALT to whom TRP does not apply. What kind of men does she fuck? But what about all the stuff comparing women to children and stuff like dread game? Shit works, yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 01:12 AM
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painting women with a broad brush seems a highly oversimplified way of dealing with gender dynamics. Nobody on TRP is "dealing with gender dynamics" except on purely practical terms - how to manage women. Like training dogs - all dogs are more or less the same. No need to explore doggie psychological dynamics, All Dogs Are Like That. All Women Are Like That as well - or close enough as makes no difference. Suppose that you or someone else is in fact a special little snowflake to whom NAWALT is l…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 02:02 PM
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The persistent and consistent brigades from TBP are annoying. If they'd just stay in their little egg sac I'd never bother to read them. But they can't stay put, nor can they restrict their trolling to this subreddit. Aside from that, that blue pill's general tone is not different than how most people view beta men who dare to express sexual needs (creepy, rapist, gross, etcetera). My guess is that most of the people who are complaining are from two camps: People who are offended by pseudo-hypoc…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 01:51 PM
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Dread game.
/r/askTRP13/04/15 05:06 AM
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I can't really imagine that I'll be able to "dominate" a girl in bed the way that RP said she would like. I doubt Sean Stephenson is holding his wife down when they fuck. Where does that leave me, a horny cripple? With a disadvantage. Unless you have a plan to get un-crippled though you better work on things you can work on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 03:34 AM
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I've said it before: TRP is full of beta men trying to become alpha. RPW is full of sluts trying to become wife material. Men want sex as soon as possible with commitment as late as possible. Women want commitment as soon as possible with sex as late as possible. For men who are looking for casual sex, "former" sluts are a waste of their time. For men who are looking for marriage material, "former" sluts are not going to be desired. For women who are looking for commitment from an Alpha, men who…
/r/askTRP12/04/15 04:14 PM
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Why would people I am trying to understand and empathize with revile me so much? Because weak men are despised. They're especially despised by women. Women want a rock, not a ball of barely contained emotion like themselves. That feminist talk about acceptance and equality and so on is more or less so much horseshit, as you can quickly prove by outing yourself as a weak and sexually needy man to them. They don't want your empathy. Your presence revolts them for reasons that they can't/won't arti…
/r/TheRedPill12/04/15 05:05 AM
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I think I'm the minority here as a woman. Tits or GTFO. Generalizing an entire sex? Bad. A woman attempting to give men advice on sexual strategy? Hilariously bad.
/r/TheRedPill12/04/15 05:03 AM
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You talk about them like they're creatures from another planet infiltrating us. Coincidentally that's the title of the link to this post over at that blue pill subreddit.
/r/TheRedPill11/04/15 10:20 PM
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I'm just trying to understand your logic. I'm not concerned with events that might happen after my lifespan.
/r/TheRedPill11/04/15 09:16 PM
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If you elevate yourself to the point that you refuse ALL primal instincts, including your own self preservation, then that is a recipe for disaster Good thing then that I'm not giving up self preservation. I pray that the majority of people feel differently than you Of course they do. Open your eyes and look around. The vast majority of people are embedded deep in the matrix and aren't going to change any time soon. Go preach to them, I'll be out at the pool.
/r/TheRedPill11/04/15 08:54 PM
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I wonder if that is what Roman's thought before their society collapsed. <shrug> Like 2Pac said, I was given this world, I didn't make it. The arguments against sitting poolside while New Rome burns are predicated on the idea that I ought to give a runny shit about "society" or "the species". I see no reason why I ought to.
/r/TheRedPill11/04/15 06:29 PM
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society as a whole appears to be suffering. To put it as succinctly as possible, "fuck 'em". Not so good now, is it? Avoiding becoming Beta Bucks is pretty easy. After that? It's not like all these women are off the market for casual sex just because they're wearing two months of a beta provider's salary on their finger, or are going to keep their knees together in mourning once they fleece their BB in a divorce. Thus, society as a whole declines. Not a difficult concept to understand. I underst…
/r/TheRedPill11/04/15 05:55 PM
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Thoughts? I don't care if sluts are slutting it up. Good for me. Birth control makes less attractive men more attractive? That drives the price of pussy down, which is good for me. Birth control fucks up relationships? I've solved that problem by practicing relationship control - no cohabitation, no oneitis, definitely no marriage. Birth control fucks up society? I'll be poolside, watching Rome burn.
/r/TheRedPill11/04/15 05:34 PM
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What do you think of girls that think like this? She's protesting a bit too much about not "just" hooking up (just). 22, reasonably good looking, on Tinder, but she totes doesn't want a hookup. Don't overthink this one, just go with your dick.
/r/askTRP11/04/15 02:05 AM
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Yes you heard that right, the woman who sued KP for discrimination is discriminating candidates based on their personal beliefs. You can discriminate against people, as long as they're unpopular. Don't get it twisted - in spite of her recent failed lawsuit and seeming cloud of incompetence that follows her, Ellen Pao is fluent enough in powertalk to understand that "discrimination" doesn't count when it happens to people that don't belong to the approved categories.
/r/TheRedPill11/04/15 12:35 AM
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She will never tell truth about it again. She wouldn't have told him the truth unless she was drugged to the gills. These chick are smarter than that.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/15 01:35 PM
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What does red pill people think about men who get rejected by their current LTR when they propose? Kind of like I think about a drunk who falls on his face and doesn't hurt himself: he's lucky but he's too fucked up to realize it. Are they ultimately winners for saving themselves a lifetime of heartbreak? Like that'll be the last time they try to fit a ring on some pudgy dame's paw? Gimme a break, that dude'll be hitched in 18 months, probably less. What about people who get rejected during half…
/r/askTRP09/04/15 02:45 AM
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My question is do we have it as bad as Asia and indias or I'm I overthinking it? Being black has some good things and some bad things. Being foreign/FOB has some good things and some bad things. You aren't gonna pass for Hindu or Chinese any time soon though so you better work on shit you can control. Look at it this way, you're probably better off than that fat white dude in the fedora, sitting at the bus stop playing his GameBoy. Is it true that Ethiopians and Somalians are easy do differ form…
/r/askTRP09/04/15 01:53 AM
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What I'm trying to ask is, what should male sexual strategy be in the long run? This is like asking "what should my life strategy be in the long run?". I dunno, I'm not you. MGTOW, plate spinning, expat'ing to a 3rd world country, LTR - you tell us what you want. Me? I want my own stuff and my own time. I like having my kitchen torn apart right now, building it back up from the walls at my own pace and my own style, sans a nagging bitch hovering around. I like leaving power tools and firearms an…
/r/askTRP09/04/15 01:36 AM
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She wants the cuddle snuggle but does not want to have sex. Is she instantly judging me that I am only doing this to have sex, or what is going on? What's going on is that she has a bunch of things she likes The status of being in a relationship A sexless cuddle partner A dude around to do things for her and pay for things Without things she doesn't like Sex with an unattractive man (you). It's a pretty good setup, for her. Understand: you cannot negotiate desire. Even if you manage to get her t…
/r/askTRP08/04/15 02:13 PM
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As a woman Nobody cares. Tits or GTFO. well, that's not a nice thing to say to someone you love Neither is this chick snottily turning him down. But, that's because she doesn't "love" him. She likes him, or at least tolerates him. It isn't like she's actually attracted to him, so he needs to go find someone who is. The action of him getting some strange will either spark her interest or it'll piss her off to the point where she takes her cold and dry pussy and leaves. Either way, OP wins. ruins …
/r/askTRP08/04/15 02:00 PM
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/r/AsianMasculinity
/r/askTRP08/04/15 01:51 AM
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What matters is that OP might not be as crappy of a person as he otherwise would have been.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/15 01:49 PM
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This subreddit would also gain much more general credibility, and receive much less hate, if people kept those points in mind when posting, and surely that’s what you want? I (wrongly?) assume that one of the collective goals of a subreddit like this, is to reach out and affect as many people as possible, to help bring about the change in society that you desire? You're perfectly wrong. Nobody here is looking to bring about "change in society", they're looking to bring about change in themselves…
/r/TheRedPill05/04/15 06:32 PM
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TL;DR - Convince me that facially aesthetics aren't as important as I think. Here's an example. Here's another. What do these dudes have in common? Above average looking spouses and atrocious looks. They compensate for their jacked up faces by having above average SMV in other areas.
/r/TheRedPill05/04/15 06:19 PM
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There's a reason that you see the advice given by men who have made themselves sexually successful with women diverges significantly from the advice doled out by women. There isn't a woman in the world who'd tell lame men about things like dread game or LMR/ASD. I'll put my trust in those who have been there and done that, as oppposed to those who have had it done to them.
/r/askTRP05/04/15 05:56 PM
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These are some particularly troubling points you make. Are the points "troubling" (in other words you don't like their tone), or are the points refutable? There are enough people who don't fit neatly into your viewpoint here that it is not a valuable measure for your daily life. AWALT exists because it's useful.
/r/TheRedPill03/04/15 02:13 PM
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Because she won't cheat on you with another black dude?
/r/TheRedPill03/04/15 01:35 PM
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Along the way, you are liable to discover that Feminism isn't the bogeyman that so many on this sub make it out to be. That's one read of it. In reality it's a spectrum, from the visceral man-haters to the flighty trend-followers. Larry Niven once said something like "You can't judge a movement by the worst of its followers" but the opposite is true as well - you can't judge a movement by the best of its followers. One person does not a movement make. You've discovered an attractive, pleasant, a…
/r/TheRedPill03/04/15 01:27 PM
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If it's our goal to be rational and promote open, unfiltered discussion Since when has that been TRP's goal or even practice? The mods have always ruled with an iron fist around here.
/r/TheRedPill01/04/15 01:03 AM
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Criminals waive their right to freedom when they break the law. Likewise, posters here waive their right to freedom when they shitpost. Saying a word is a bit of a far cry from breaking a "no tone policing" rule You weren't in that comment chain, because you don't realize that the offending user was doing both. Staying unbanned from TRP is the easiest thing in the world.
/r/TheRedPill31/03/15 02:06 PM
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The use of the word is not tone policing. That user tone policing was tone policing.
/r/TheRedPill31/03/15 01:30 AM
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A wise man once said that a horse laugh is worth ten thousand syllogisms - that's the same problem you face. The way to solve the horse-laugh problem is to toss the offender to the proverbial curb so's that the grown ups can talk, not to entertain him.
/r/TheRedPill31/03/15 01:29 AM
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It's just cherrypicking of buzzwords and not actual quality discussion. I was there in the offending comments. I can tell you it wasn't a quality discussion.
/r/TheRedPill31/03/15 01:25 AM
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I simply asked if calling a women "cum dumpster" wasn't slightly misogynistic. And what is your concern with misogyny?
/r/TheRedPill29/03/15 05:45 PM
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"Ignorant" is probably closer than "dumb".
/r/TheRedPill29/03/15 05:42 PM
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I know... I'm just saying that you could filter your words a little Let me direct you to the posting guidelines. Please read them, especially the part about 'concern trolling'. That's what you're doing right now.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/15 05:26 PM
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Hey, at least he didn't call her two little crotchfruit "twat droppings".
/r/TheRedPill29/03/15 04:53 PM
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The real question is, who are these women and what can they do for you (or do to you)? This will determine your response.
/r/askTRP29/03/15 04:46 PM
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Can a dude be gaslit? My ex-wife used to do that shit all of the time. She was very good at it. A smart man Ah yes, that was a contributing factor. A smart man wouldn't have married such a woman.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/15 04:25 PM
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She cooks she cleans she know how to nurture, and she wants to do all that for me. and she's younger and lives at home. So she does all of these things for her family. Does she do them for you? How good is she at these things? You don't know because you don't live with her.
/r/askTRP29/03/15 04:01 PM
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I just can't see myself or any true red pill man wanting to be with women like that. You can likewise bet that RPW don't want a man who had to learn all this shit on the internet - they want someone who "just gets it". TRP is full of beta men trying to become alpha. RPW is full of sluts trying to become wife material. Women want as much commitment as possible with as little sex as possible. Men want as much sex as possible with as little commitment as possible. Male and female sexual strategies …
/r/askTRP29/03/15 03:36 AM
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How much longer can these "people" say this kind of bullshit and not get burned for it? Hmm. Let's look at this person's Twitter bio Trans dyke, feminist, @LGBTLD executive member, @NUS_LGBT committee member-elect, sex work and equality campaigner, Yorkshire devolutionist, chilihead. I'm not sure what some of those words mean, but from the words I do understand I can tell that this person doesn't have a whole lot of social standing or employability. This is confirmed by 'her' picture - obese, ne…
/r/TheRedPill28/03/15 05:32 PM
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The best use is when that blue pill subreddit links here.
/r/askTRP27/03/15 01:40 AM
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Holy shit this question pops up every fucking week. Get her to show you the Ho Facts.
/r/askTRP27/03/15 01:04 AM
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Women bodybuilders exist y'know. Recommended reading: Understanding NAWALT.
/r/askTRP27/03/15 12:59 AM
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Anyone in the self-care room at all? I need a bit of feminist support if possibleee! "Self-care" now apparently includes attention whoring on Twitter.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/15 01:41 AM
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Do we need to judge them too for wearing makeup?? Sure - as soon as TRP is interested in fucking tribesmen in Niger.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/15 04:21 AM
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Belongs in /r/ThankTRP
/r/TheRedPill24/03/15 01:29 AM
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It's clear from her posts that she knew that this guy was uncomfortable with the idea of her fucking other dudes before him, that's why she stopped mentioning ex boyfriends. Armed with that knowledge, she then decided that drug fueled gang bangs "weren't a big deal"? Certainly they weren't a big deal, in comparison to the opportunity to get Mr. Big Shot to put a ring on her finger.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/15 01:19 AM
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You need to get her to show you the Hoe Fax: The process is pretty simple. Create an atmosphere where she feels comfortable sharing anything with you. Compliment her on her appearance then transition into how she probably used to get with hot guys all the time. If she's not forthcoming, say something like ''the past is the past' or 'I don't judge'. You can volunteer one of your own stories to get the party started, or you can guilt her with "relationships are built on openness and understanding"…
/r/askTRP24/03/15 01:06 AM
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Exactly how does this come up? In the original post, one of the OP's "friends" told the hubby about it.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/15 12:46 AM
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PDF link: DiCarlo Escalation Ladder.
/r/askTRP23/03/15 04:47 AM
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There are far worse things in life than renting hookers. Things like, losing half of your stuff because of some nutty cooze's whims and vapors. Fortunately for me I've been there and done that, in re wifing up some twat, and I came to a simple realization, viz: I'd rather be alone for the rest of my life, than deal with that again. So let's say that you're correct, in a few years I'll be old and fugly and sexless. My choices are either to bang less attractive women (and people have the standards…
/r/TheRedPill22/03/15 10:15 PM
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No. Virtual environments aren't going to make panties wet. You want to go on a date in meatspace and escalate there.
/r/askTRP22/03/15 09:21 PM
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If she loves me will she initiate a conversation or will i have to be pushy? The thing that keeps you from wanting to escalate is fear. Part of you hopes that she will be the man and go after you. Don't listen to this part of you.
/r/askTRP22/03/15 08:30 PM
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Would it also be good to point out that she is using 'sex as a weapon' in the relationship and you won't deal with that shit? You cannot negotiate desire: Negotiated desire only ever leads to obligated compliance. This is why her post-negotiation sexual response is often so lackluster and the source of even further frustration on his part. She may be more sexually available to him, but the half-hearted experience is never the same as when they first met when there was no negotiation, just sponta…
/r/TheRedPill22/03/15 08:15 PM
2

What is an "Alpha Widow" and why does it matter?
/r/TheRedPill22/03/15 05:48 PM
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It's useful because it allows people to check for idiots brigading this sub, then catalog and report them.
/r/askTRP22/03/15 05:44 PM
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Why would woman marry a philanderer when she'll end up as a single mother? Preselection. Women are attracted to sexually successful males. Stop defending promiscuity man.Its shit both ways Wrong. Promiscuity is a great thing for a top 20% man who wants a never-ending supply of strange. There's a new crop of sluts coming to market every year. Now if you aren't a top 20% man, or if you want a marriage to a woman that hasn't been dug out by a dozen dudes before you, or you're a post wall woman whos…
/r/TheRedPill22/03/15 05:09 PM
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So basically, want their cake and eat it too? Have sex as much as they want, then expect a monogamous woman? That is, if these 20% of men want a woman with a low count. Duh. I don't know... seems like hypocrisy to me. <shrug> Slutty flings and virgin rings. Just like women practice alpha fucks, beta bucks. Now you start to realize what TRP is talking about when they say that male and female sexual strategies are adversarial. But I guess you kind of answered that with the ''beta men benefit from …
/r/TheRedPill22/03/15 05:04 PM
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But just fyi, men benefit from monogamy too. Beta men benefit from monogamy, because it more or less guarantees them a woman. Post wall/post CC women benefit from monogamy because it gives them a backup plan after they fail to secure an alpha male. The top 20% of men benefit from women slutting it up because it more or less guarantees that they will have plenty of strange. Women don't tend to benefit in the long term from being sluts, for reasons that I don't have time to go into here. Go search…
/r/TheRedPill22/03/15 12:53 AM
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Sluts & Studs: Why Promiscuity is Acceptable for Men and Not Women. Men and women are different, honey. Most men don't want to give their commitment to a promiscuous woman - all other factors being equal they'd prefer a woman who's had fewer cocks inside her. Women on the other hand have a preference for preselection in men - women want the men that other women want. A woman who manages to nail down a high SMV player is going to be the envy of her peers, a man who puts a ring on a whore's finger…
/r/TheRedPill22/03/15 12:30 AM
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But what's the harm in consensual sex purely for fun, between single people? The harm is that a man likely won't want to commit to the town pump - as shown by the husband in this story. A woman having drug fueled threesomes isn't hurting anyone - she's hurting her future desirability. Might've just not been a big deal to her but she keeps it secret because she knows that her man will overreact. In other words, she knows that her slutty past reduces her desirability as a wife, so she does her bes…
/r/TheRedPill21/03/15 11:53 PM
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It's been tried before. There is zero chance of getting 100,000 people to move to Wyoming.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/15 06:39 PM
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I don't know what this means. How is working towards equality a sacrifice? The time that I spend working towards equality is time that I don't spend pursuing other values, such as getting my dick sucked. Why should we not want to achieve the "grand goal of equality?" You go and work on that. I'll work on getting my dick sucked. That way, I get all the benefit of your work and all the benefit of my work. It's all just needless drama and counterproductive to the goals of TRP. You presume to speak …
/r/TheRedPill21/03/15 06:08 PM
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Do you people ever put in other people's shoes? OK, so in this case we have a woman who enjoyed drug fueled threesomes while she was young and hot. As she became less young and thus less hot she realized that she needed to put on a more respectable appearance and lock down a provider for commitment. She also realized that she had to hide her drug-slut past from this man in order to get that ring on her finger. She successfully did this until one day her past caught up to her. Now she's in danger…
/r/TheRedPill21/03/15 05:41 PM
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You really can't imagine how a movement devoted to equality could help with that? You make the unsupported assumption that feminism is a movement devoted to equality. You make the unsupported assumption that TRP'ers are willing to sacrifice other, more obtainable, goals in order to work towards some grand goal of equality. Even as far as getting laid goes feminism is helpful since it encourages women and men to be free and not ashamed of their sexuality This is what TRP calls the Cock Carousel, …
/r/TheRedPill21/03/15 05:06 PM
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Tits or get the fuck out. Read that plus the top comment in that thread.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/15 04:32 PM
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you have to recognize the validity of a lot of people determining that your ideas are a net negative for society. I recognize zero validity in a lot of people determining that my ideas are a net negative for society. Those lots of people's opinions and feelings are of no concern to me, and they oughtn't be of concern of anyone's, except for the purely practical concern of not facing real life consequences for unpopular opinions.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/15 04:29 PM
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About the only thing that would come out of such a thing is doxxing for the men stupid enough to sign up for it. TRP is social ebola: the very idea of "sexual strategy" is repulsive to most people, let alone everything else that's discussed here. Needing to discuss sexual strategy out loud automatically disqualifies you from being a "real man" in the eyes of most people and in fact firmly places you in their "creepy rapist" category besides. Recommended reading: the Powertalk piece on the sideba…
/r/TheRedPill21/03/15 04:21 PM
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It isn't a logical analysis. Don't read anything into the epithet that is used - loser, bigot, neckbeard, sexist, cultist. Because they all mean one thing: "bad". TRP is the worst in their eyes, and they'll use whatever word happens to bubble to the surface to describe it. They're hoping to find a label that sticks because TRP is a threat. TRP is a threat because it is both effective and growing. Some overgrown kids posting pictures of fried chicken with a racist caption on a message board - not…
/r/TheRedPill21/03/15 04:14 PM
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I also think our objectives as a group would be better served in alliance with feminism The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men. How on Earth would an "alliance with feminism" advance that goal? What can "feminists" do for me except spread their legs (if they're female and attractive) or get the fuck out of my way (if they aren't)?
/r/TheRedPill21/03/15 04:02 PM
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That's a tough place to be man. All places are tough to be a man. You are what you produce - no more, no less. It's fuck or walk, gentlemen. Curious how you view that soliloquy - do you want to run away, or sell some real estate? The world can be a revolting place, but it can be a beautiful place. The world is what it is. I'm looking to make my way in this world, not to save it. But life at either end of that blade will never be as fulfilling and rich as when you learn to ignore these blades and…
/r/TheRedPill21/03/15 04:25 AM
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In fact i think i'm back into the anger phase with women in general again. A fair percentage of the posters there are males. is /r/thebluepill serious? No and Yes. On the surface they claim that they're satire, a circlejerk, etc - we're just playin' yo. But notice that the tone is just a little too harsh, the comments just a little too angry. They claim they aren't angry but their eyes are wide and there's a bit of spittle at the corner of their mouth. They are serious and the proof is as simple…
/r/askTRP21/03/15 04:12 AM
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I'm sure that if I wrote out my thoughts and feelings that the result would be thinly-disguised revulsion from the masses. I'm also quite sure that the world is more or less indifferent to my life or death.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/15 03:16 AM
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That article, it's disturbing to me. So you immediately turn to blame and shame within a sentence or two. It goes to show how weak men are viewed in society - with hatred and contempt. Men understand this, which is why you only read stories like this on anonymous internet forums. Perhaps you'd prefer that he sucked a bullet out of a gun - that way at least there wouldn't be anything disturbing to you to read, just another male suicide to cluck-cluck over. Golly how horrible he should have asked …
/r/TheRedPill21/03/15 02:25 AM
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Making a minor edit to the question allows it to be easily answered Why do some women choose to sleep with men who've who they have accused of sexually assault[ing] them in the past? Because the accusations are false - the women are lying and/or crazy, and no such sexual assault occurred, that's why. Reading the article makes it clear why the police declined to investigate this case. Can you imagine the complaint? Like, OMG, maybe I was raped or something because I kept having consensual sex wit…
/r/TheRedPill21/03/15 02:11 AM
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Some men come here to LOSE their anger towards women contrary to the reverse belief that they come here to fuel that anger. I'd restate that a bit, that they don't come here to lose their anger but rather that they lose their anger as a result of what they read here. There's no reason to be angry at women for being what they are any more than there is a reason to be angry at a cat for doing what it does. "Bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks" after all, so why get upset when a hoe is a hoe?
/r/TheRedPill21/03/15 01:05 AM
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Why take a couple of minutes to learn anything at all about a subject when you can just cry and moan and get it banned? Of those two, which is more likely to be effective at silencing TRP?
/r/TheRedPill21/03/15 01:00 AM
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It's almost like the have an agenda to push behind a fig leaf of science. Or something.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/15 12:59 AM
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Every active contributor to this subreddit functions anonymously. [...] I suggest you think twice about taking life advice from people who never show their face. The irony of this is lost on you, isn't it?
/r/TheRedPill21/03/15 12:50 AM
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I'm just telling you the impression you make to outsiders in my opinion. Here's the thing - nobody cares. TRP isn't about reaching the masses of feebs or about spreading the gospel or about convincing much of anyone of much of anything. This isn't a movement or grass roots effort that cares about the "impression" that we leave on anyone. It's about formerly lame dudes helping each other become less lame. In this thread even, I see a lot of defensiveness Right, you crafted your root comment fairl…
/r/TheRedPill21/03/15 12:43 AM
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By mainstream I mean as popular as the whole PUA/Mystery thing has been. As far as I can tell that spawned a couple of shitty reality shows and disappeared. But what will happen when women find out about this stuff? J Emotional rejection of it. Stop dating men they are attracted to sexuality The question answers itself: will women stop dating men that they are sexually attracted to?
/r/askTRP20/03/15 01:45 PM
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Here ya go.
/r/askTRP20/03/15 02:21 AM
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It's often a supplicating gesture.
/r/askTRP20/03/15 02:15 AM
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I'm not going to make such a post, because TRP is not the place for such a discussion. I highly doubt that getting into this with you is going to produce anything useful for anyone.
/r/TheRedPill19/03/15 02:05 PM
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So why don't you guys question all victimhood? Speaking for myself, I'm not interested in fucking black dudes, so their problems or lack thereof aren't of particular interest to me. I'm not here to change the world, just to change myself.
/r/TheRedPill19/03/15 05:26 AM
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I don't see anything to refute. In fact let's take his argument at face value: The oppression of women stems largely from men’s desire for power and control. The same need which, throughout history, has driven men to try to conquer and subjugate other groups or nations, and to oppress other classes or groups in their own society, drives them to dominate and oppress women. The author of this piece writes more on his "humania disorder" here, comparing Western peoples to various indigenous peoples:…
/r/askTRP19/03/15 04:47 AM
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A similar experiment was tried with /r/trpgame. It was reintegrated into TRP proper.
/r/askTRP19/03/15 03:24 AM
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Because TRP is social ebola.
/r/askTRP19/03/15 03:19 AM
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Lemme fix that up a little I would advise asian men to not listen to SJW women telling them how to behave etc, siding with them is not going to make them want to fuck you ...
/r/TheRedPill19/03/15 01:29 AM
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In today's age, what kind of useful skill would women want? [...] To me, it seems like they are solely attracted to guys who are ambitious about something and fun to be around. Ding ding ding. Here's a great example: "Everything about the situation was just... nice." Search this subreddit for 'tingles' for more examples.
/r/TheRedPill18/03/15 01:44 AM
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You're getting downvoted because you're asking a really basic question somewhere that isn't appropriate for it. If you're serious, the sidebar --> over there will answer your questions. If you aren't, well...
/r/TheRedPill17/03/15 03:32 AM
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"Come over to my place at [date, time]. Bring a movie, I have drinks."
/r/askTRP17/03/15 02:02 AM
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so she may be pregnant. Has she taken a pregnancy test? What were the results? How do you know the results? am I legally obligated to pay anything if she goes the adoption/keeping it route? Talk to a lawyer. However, yes - child support is a thing.
/r/askTRP17/03/15 01:59 AM
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They may not need to prove it. In the state where I got divorced one of the first things that happened after filing was that a mutual restraining order got slapped on the missus and myself, prohibiting any unusual financial moves. You can't be sure that you'll have the window to do such a plan - suppose she's the one who files and you get served papers unexpectedly.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/15 12:56 AM
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Once an adult are you trying to say there is no longer hope of growth and change? The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. In this case you're talking about getting legally entangled with someone who has a history of fucking dudes that she perceives as higher value than you. Chances are she's going to get bored of you and dump you/cheat on you. may as well put people away in prisons and throw away the key. No, OP is saying "don't invite law breakers and addicts to live in your hou…
/r/TheRedPill16/03/15 02:01 PM
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is it impossible women can go through a similar change? This isn't about "partying" per se, this is about the side effects from partying, AKA alpha widowhood. Like it or not, men don't tend to experience the same thing.
/r/TheRedPill16/03/15 01:48 PM
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You are who you say you are. Right. So don't go talking about your AFC days with chicks.
/r/TheRedPill15/03/15 05:55 AM
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but that doesn't mean we can't do easy things that keep us from turning off tons of potential readers. You're flirting with the danger of gradualism: I've always been fascinated by comb-overs, especially the extreme sort that make a man look as if he's wearing a beret made of his own hair. Surely this is a lowly sort of thing to be interested in-- the sort of superficial quizzing best left to teenage girls. And yet there is something underneath. The key question, I realized, is how does the comb…
/r/TheRedPill15/03/15 05:23 AM
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That's the reason for the single quotes - the literal term sexual strategy repulses most people. Most people have a sexual strategy, even if it's a shitty one like beta orbiting. They just get squicked out when those words are used. Point being that's the reason for existence of this subreddit, and it's repulsive to most people. Therefore it's an unreasonable assumption to make that TRP should moderate its language in an attempt to appeal to most people.
/r/TheRedPill15/03/15 05:07 AM
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You aren't wrong. It's just that no matter how much an AFC improves himself he'll never be the equal of a guy who "just got it" in the eyes of a woman. In fact the more he had to study and learn, the lower his value in her eyes. This is one of the reasons that PUA and TRP are social ebola. A former fatty who worked her ass off to get skinny would earn some respect from a man, but the reverse isn't true. Imagine regaling a woman with stories about how you used to be a beta schlub but thanks to al…
/r/TheRedPill15/03/15 05:02 AM
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Using abrasive language that most people automatically tune out is not communicating clearly. You make the assumption that TRP should cater to "most" people. "Most" people are repulsed at the idea of 'sexual strategy' never mind anything else TRP has to say.
/r/TheRedPill15/03/15 04:55 AM
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20% rate for women, around 10% for men. It'd be interesting to see a study that looked at race, age, economic factors, sexual orientation, and number of partners. I suspect that ratchet women have a higher STD incidence for instance.
/r/TheRedPill15/03/15 04:47 AM
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It could be thinking it's fun to spin black girls as plates without realizing 48% of them have genital herpes. If you have a source for that it would make a useful TRP post. Pretty controversial of course.
/r/TheRedPill15/03/15 04:04 AM
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You realize people think the same thing about the trp though, right? The difference is, as I said upthread, that TRP produces useful content. That's why TRP is seen as a boogeyman and the various racist subreddits are ignored. If y'all were giving actionable advice on how individuals could implement white separatism or whatever, you could be assured you'd get the same treatment TRP gets. I can separate argument from invective easily enough. Problem is that the vast majority of internet racists h…
/r/TheRedPill15/03/15 03:53 AM
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Could I ask for your rebuttal to this graphic? It's highly probable that there are differences in human intelligence that can be linked to visible traits - AKA race and such. Of course it's career suicide to undertake a scientific study of such. However I see nothing in that graphic that refutes the point that coontown is loud, uncouth, trashy, and ghetto.
/r/TheRedPill15/03/15 03:36 AM
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The hypocrisy is astounding. No more hypocritical than men learning PUA and at the same time despising MySpace angles on dating profiles. Everyone wants the naturally hottest mate, not the fake hottest mate.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 10:17 PM
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But if the guy can learn to be an alpha, doesn't that mean his genes support him being an alpha male? Most women are going to react to that the same way that most men are going to react to learning that their girlfriend was born with a penis, but now thanks to hormones and surgeries, looks like a hot woman.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 10:15 PM
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"We can't in good conscience not read the red pill: Extremism thrives amid ignorance and anger, intimidation and cowardice. -- Hillary Rodham Clinton"
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 10:11 PM
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I don't see anything like this obviously bitter guy, who isn't trying to improve himself or his situation, just whining about it. This man obviously doesn't have the first clue as to what women find attractive, so he can't improve himself or his situation.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 09:28 PM
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Any ideas on good ways to get revenge on my ex? How many barrels will thy vengeance yield thee even if thou gettest it, Captain Ahab? it will not fetch thee much in our Nantucket market.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 09:15 PM
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Right, so continue to escalate.
/r/askTRP14/03/15 08:22 PM
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My mission and purpose demand focus and long hours dedicated to creating value and bettering myself. Yet, I still want sexual release with attractive women. I don't want to masturbate, and I don't want prostitutes. Sometimes, you can't have it all. Hot women, sexually available women, low effort women - pick two. Hot + low effort = become sexless beta orbiter Hot + sexually available = work hard Sexually available + low effort = fuggos
/r/askTRP14/03/15 07:31 PM
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Note the dichotomy of red pill sexual strategy being attacked in public but simultaneously being effective.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 07:23 PM
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It's not a bad thing but consider the context “I wanted a child, but only with him,” she explains. “He didn’t want a child but wanted to keep me.” When Scott opted for a vasectomy, she demanded an open marriage. She had baby rabies and he got himself sterilized. From her perspective that's a bad thing. Hell, it's the worst thing. Then he goes and acquiesces to an open marriage, basically completing the conversion from a man to a pack mule/ATM.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 07:21 PM
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But he didn't come across butthurt, he came across like he was genuinely amused, because he was. His reaction was similar to the reaction to this: What makes you think you are good enough to have a tea party with me and Mr. Bunny? Inside your head you'd think "Why would I lobby for the chance to spend my valuable time with such a spoiled brat?" and your action would follow that.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 07:10 PM
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Think about it this way - the people that you describe aren't going to produce very much insight for you and your life. That's why I'm not worried about evangelism regarding manosphere ideas. Them's as want to figure it out will, them's as won't, won't. I'm looking for better ideas, not more cheerleaders.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 07:03 PM
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I'd state it slightly differently - bashing women is irrelevant to TRP. Woman bashing is a side effect of certain things such as the anger that comes from realizing that you've been lied to for much of your life, and TRP doesn't discourage that. But ultimately it's irrelevant to sexual strategy. Internet feminists aren't going to be lining up to thank me for that revelation but that's fine - I don't care what they think or say or feel. Truly, bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 06:58 PM
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It's precisely because those subs are dumb that they aren't worth mentioning. It reads like a white nationalist version of ShitRedditSays - loud, uncouth, trashy, ghetto. The irony is exquisite. Nobody's going to be paying attention to them any time soon. The problem for the critics of TRP is that even though it's offensive to them, it doesn't have that same idiotic tone. Worse, TRP provides actionable advice. Most people are highly instrumental in their lives, and TRP plays right into that. Shi…
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 06:51 PM
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People who read the subreddit for more than 30 seconds tend to find themselves hitting 'subscribe'. An interesting observation - have you noticed how often that people say something like "the red pill is awful, don't even read it" versus "the red pill is awful, go read it and see for yourself how bad it is"?
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 06:41 PM
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Are there any tell tale signs that she'll give it up to you? Are you making consistent progress with sexual escalation?
/r/askTRP14/03/15 06:35 PM
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What's the point of even emotionally investing yourself into someone like that who at a basic biological level simply cannot think rationally about the current circumstance of the relationship. Her love is fickle, it relies heavily on the esteem she holds you in. The answer is simple: don't invest disproportionately. Think of it like a bet at the poker table - risk vs. reward. Just because the hand you're dealt doesn't justify you pushing in all of your chips, doesn't mean that you shouldn't mak…
/r/askTRP14/03/15 06:34 PM
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If you want a career on TV there are certain sacred cows that you do not kick. Colbert plays a character that in turns plays to his audience. He's not trying to be an iconoclast, he's trying to make a successful show in order to sell advertising slots. Bill Maher learned his lesson after 9/11. Bill Cosby is another example of what happens when you criticize the people that are above criticism.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 06:21 PM
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What causes teens that haven't had that much life experience to already be so plugged in? Parenting. Also, how do they even know about TRP in the first place? This subreddit is the big boogeyman of much of reddit. level of anti red pill responses was pretty unexpected. Hopefully you've learned the lesson of not talking about TRP in real life.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 06:12 PM
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I'm reminded of the "bigoted" thread yesterday where older divorced men were warning young never married men how life-wrecking a divorce can be for a man in 2015. Smell the "bigotry". Yeah, OK. The earnest response from many people outside this community would be that thread is bigoted, because Not All Women Are Like That. "Bigotry" in this case is shorthand for "socially unacceptable pattern recognition".
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 06:09 PM
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And some trailer trash just won more in the lottery than I'll make in my lifetime - just sayin'. Doesn't mean I'm gonna be cashing in stock options for Powerball tickets though, because most people who play the lotto lose.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 01:45 AM
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Jesus, is it totally impossible for a man to fall in love with a woman, and vs versa, where they live together for better or for worse, sickness and in health? No, it's not totally impossible. It's just really unlikely. Don't invest half your worldly goods into nigh-impossible ventures, such as lotto tickets or marriage.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 01:38 AM
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Hmm the bankruptcy that follows a lot of failed small business owners does the trick for the life being fucked part. 70% of small business owners would have to file for personal bankruptcy in 10 years for the analogy to hold. I suspect that isn't the case though. People on this sub love to get on their little soap box If you were talking about shooting heroin I'd warn against the dangers of that too. It's really expensive and has a good shot at ruining years of your life. If you want to characte…
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 02:05 PM
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Sex is definitely not the only thing I care about now. Sex isn't the only thing I care about either. But sex is far more important to me than political activism because working for sex gets me the benefits of sex. Don't believe I do it for others only, I get my joy from this too. It's a monumental waste of time, but I won't ask you to stop. you have the right to be selfish but I hope you're not only doing it because thats what gets you laid I'm selfish because I'm putting me first. Getting laid,…
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 05:53 AM
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Wait - whose paying for that? "They" are paying for it from their mutual funds, of course. Heard you both got the same bank account Dumb nigga, what you thinkin' 'bout?
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 05:47 AM
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I don't get why some people that get into TRP want to keep it hush hush In a word, we're selfish. I don't care about the world's problems, I care about my problems. I'm just trying to get my prick sucked over here. we have a decent chance to fight the double standards Oy. It's a massive public goods problem. You go fight double standards, I'll try to get my prick sucked. I get all the benefit of your effort and all the benefit of my effort. We can't be stupid enough to look the other way to what…
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 05:42 AM
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But porn and fleshlights are easy. So is a sexbot - compared to a real woman. In terms of time and effort and money Chick > sexbot > porn Right now in terms of quality Chick > porn >= sexbot Because the "sexbots" suck. But what happens when they're easily better than porn? People already pay for internet porn after all.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 05:30 AM
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their overall dollar output will drop because they don't have mouths to feed. And they don't have a need to consume stuff. A typical man could live in a one room plywood shack, drive a beater car, wear clothes from the thrift store, eat beans and bacon and be happy - except for the resulting lack of women.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 05:20 AM
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It's also a good way to catch social ebola. If you work in corporate land it's a good way to get fired. Think as you like, but behave like others.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 05:09 AM
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And so are you for enabling it. If it wasn't his cock she's bouncing on, it'd be another. No need for bro-knighting.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 05:05 AM
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This could potentially lead to a controversial discussion on TRP. So are you implying that a guy be all those things (emotionally available, commit, etc.) as long as it isn't too soon and still be attractive to the woman? That's the premise of a ton of romantic movies isn't it? The protagonist manages to lock down Alpha Fucks all for herself through her quirky female charms or whatever.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 05:03 AM
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Roughly 70% of small business fail within 10 years, To make your analogy correct you need to say that 70% of businesses fail and that the would-be proprietors then proceed to get fucked over by the courts, legal system, and their former business partners. If you were to propose entering a business arena where you had a 70% chance of losing most of your stuff, I'd advise against that too. So don't sink your life savings into gold claims or penny stocks or whatever, bro. are you content as some ot…
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 03:24 AM
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Easy enough, add the below as mandatory courses. Rights, Responsibility and Accountability. It's been thought of before: History and Moral Philosophy. It isn't clear from the context of the link but that class and the society around it only came into being after a soft collapse followed by a revolution.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 02:29 AM
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You stated that because most people don't think of it that way, marriage is inherently bad. Other way around. I stated that marriage is a bad idea an overwhelming majority of the time, and that because so many people get married anyway, it's obvious that they aren't thinking about it. I am saying it isn't, just as guns aren't bad. A gun's not going to hurt you by itself, it's not an independent agent. A wife on the other hand is an independent agent and might decide to hurt you in a fit of pique…
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 02:00 AM
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Of course it won't be a bachelor tax, it will be increased tax rates combined with tax credits for people who are married. Subsidies, not taxes. That's be enough of a smokescreen for the ignorant masses - like blue pill posters such as yourself.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 01:43 AM
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The "girlfriend experience".
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 01:38 AM
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They'll by hyper-sexual to lock down the BB. Once they do that, they'll shut of their vag. So the current state of affairs, but magnified and time compressed. You've just described a positive feedback loop: men turn to VR porn, making post wall women more desperate, making for more unhappy marriages and more divorces, making more men turn to VR porn...
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 01:31 AM
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Saying that people are entering into something in ignorance is not an argument against the agreement, only the reasoning. You made the argument against marriage, now you're trying to use my agreement as a shield to back out of the argument because you realize it's airtight. If you marry someone of equal wage or status, there is no real loss to you. Sure there is, it's called legal costs and child support. And that makes a huge assumption that a man's wife has identical earning power to him. She …
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 01:19 AM
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The business decision should be thought out. But it isn't. Just using the reasons you gave, only a tiny fraction of men should get married - those who need the status and appearance of respectability to further their careers. So far we have marriage as a tool to gain status and the appearance of respectability, which are things you'd need for example as a career politician or pastor. I don't think that many TRP'ers are politicos or preachers.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/15 04:25 AM
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It seems like you'd like to further the degradation of society by mishandling our stewardship of the next generation. You can't contaminate a sewer by pissing in it.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/15 04:12 AM
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There is no real promise of fidelity, longevity, love, sex etc. Wrong, there are absolutely promises of those things. There aren't any guarantees of those things. To be perfectly clear marriage disincentivizes a woman from providing those things because it greatly reduces the power of a man to walk away. It is a business decision For the overwhelming majority of men it's a piss poor business decision. Those tax benefits for instance hardly stack up well against a 50% chance of losing half of eve…
/r/TheRedPill12/03/15 04:09 AM
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Marriage is a tool What exactly is this tool good for?
/r/TheRedPill12/03/15 03:55 AM
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See: 86% of US presidents We can't all be President, honey.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/15 03:54 AM
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Doesn't matter what she thinks, it's what she tells other people and what they think. TRP is social ebola.
/r/askTRP12/03/15 01:58 AM
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I live in Europe and don't understand everything what is going on in America. It's going into the shitter. But I see that you guys are pretty negative towards your country? Yes, we're immersed in it. So what is keeping you in America, why don't you just leave? Family, jobs, property, lack of language skills. What are the good sides and is it worth to visit America? The good sides: We have the two biggest oceans in world on two sides of us, and weak and peaceful neighbors on the other two, who ar…
/r/askTRP12/03/15 01:57 AM
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Let us know how it all works out in the end. Bro.
/r/askTRP12/03/15 01:32 AM
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The good thing about threads like this is it encourages the trolls to come out of the woodwork, get ID'ed, and get banned.
/r/askTRP12/03/15 01:23 AM
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Nice dodge of the pertinent question. You wouldn't fuck this woman because it's clear she's a nutbag - clinical or not, she's fucking nuts.
/r/TheRedPill11/03/15 12:55 AM
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The simplest conclusion is that she's an attention whore. Everything fits that theory - false rape report that is recanted once she's in the lime light, injuries self inflicted, etc. Knowing what you know about this woman, would you spend the night with her? Assume that she's hot enough for your tastes.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/15 02:02 PM
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Do you think it's possible that she tore her own clothes and injured herself? Do you think it's possible she tripped over her fankles and fell on her face?
/r/TheRedPill10/03/15 01:46 PM
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No one is consodering she lied about lying? [...] Maybe she's just in hysterics cause she got raped. Next, perhaps you'll propose that all the women who haven't reported a rape really were raped, they're just too hysterical to report it.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/15 01:45 PM
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Who cares if TRP is hateful? Does it work?
/r/askTRP10/03/15 01:46 AM
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ok i get it, but what is the counter argument? TRP is full of stupid hateful people and if you disagree you're stupid and hateful too. what is their belief on how relationships should be? The sub exists to throw crap, not to be helpful.
/r/askTRP10/03/15 01:30 AM
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Don't buy a house. Buy a condo in a normal area, preferably one that needs some work (so it's cheaper). Do the work you can yourself - you can teach yourself a lot of things. Contract out what you can't do/don't want to do. Make sure the HOA allows you to rent the condo out. Pay it off early by making the same payments you would have on a house, buy another one, rent the first one out. Repeat. Or just pay it off early. Now you only have HOA dues and property taxes. Do something else productive w…
/r/askTRP09/03/15 03:13 AM
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Don't see how you can be red pill and oppose anarcho-capitalism Here's an argument: for reasons that are complex and unknown, Western welfare states enjoy the highest standard of living in human history. AnCaps want to get rid of Western welfare states thus jeopardizing that standard of living. Here's another: most people are net tax consumers. I like being a net tax consumer (free shit on the public dime, yay) but I can't be a net tax consumer without taxes. Here's another: women are more likel…
/r/TheRedPill09/03/15 01:13 AM
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They plausibly believe they're voting in self defense, for the lesser evil as it were. You see as much indicated throughout this thread - people advocating for voting in self defense.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/15 11:54 PM
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he blame for society's problems should only be placed square on the democratic majority No, the voters aren't to blame: He sees, too, that other men practice this tyranny over him by the use of the ballot. He sees further, that, if he will but use the ballot himself, he has some chance of relieving himself from this tyranny of others, by subjecting them to his own. In short, he finds himself, without his consent, so situated that, if he use the ballot, he may become a master; if he does not use …
/r/TheRedPill08/03/15 10:05 PM
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Sure, attaining power for power's sake can be done. But let's not kid ourselves, Dick Cheney didn't get to where he was and is by faithfully voting every four years. Any voting he did was for the purposes of a photo op.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/15 07:33 PM
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If they got together, they could just choose whoever they wanted in their place. If. The problem is that you don't control that 62% of the electorate. You control your one vote, and your one vote is lost in the noise of the 38% of the electorate who did turn out.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/15 07:23 PM
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Recognize that your non-vote has as much weight as your vote: none. Your abstention in protest has zero effect on anyone except yourself. The real reason to not vote is that it's a waste of your time.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/15 07:19 PM
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I doubt that there are 100,000 voters in Idaho that all hold the same views and are that different from the Rs and Ds that they want to band together. Ever heard of the Free State Project? Basically it was a plan to have a bunch of libertarians move to one state and thus gain a disproportionate influence on local politics. It was launched in 2001. Their goal was 20,000 people moving within some time period once a destination was chosen. I recall it was 10 years. 14 years later, there are just ov…
/r/TheRedPill08/03/15 06:59 PM
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For the all the people that say voting is pointless Let's work some numbers. For instance, take the 2014 senatorial election for a low population state: Idaho. In 2014 there were 151,761 votes for the Democrat and 285,358 votes for the Republican. Let's work the numbers each way, assuming you have one vote in the Idaho senatorial election: You vote for the Democrat: 151,762 votes D, 285,358 votes R. R wins. You vote for the Republican: 151,761 votes D, 285,359 votes R. R wins. You vote for a 3rd…
/r/TheRedPill08/03/15 06:20 PM
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OK cool. I'll keep looking out for #1 while you and your small group produce social change for me. Or not produce social change for me. Either way I get all the benefit of my labor and all the benefit of yours.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/15 06:33 PM
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LOL. This society will continue its power dive into decadence with or without my input.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/15 06:21 PM
2

they expect to be treated like "ladies" and have guys pay for fancy dates in order to be with them. Right, because they're auditioning potential beta bucks candidates. You need to fail that audition, if you aren't looking to be beta bucks. Difficulty of gaming women by age bracket.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/15 06:12 PM
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There's nothing good in this mess - least of all some bimbos making themselves feel better at this dude's expense.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/15 06:02 PM
2

I'm worried where do my tax money go. Most of it gets wasted. Some of the rest of it gets used to fuck with and kill people who mostly don't deserve it. Some small percentage goes to things that you endorse. Fatties consuming your tax dollars are hardly worse than the IRS who's extracting them in the first place.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/15 05:58 PM
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Instead of helping him fix his long-term issues, they are going straight for a feel-good quick fix, like they do. This is for them to feel good about themselves, to feel like they do good in the world. Notice the parallel here gents: Just be yourself, you'll find someone You'll make someone a good husband, someday These chicks are blithely assuaging the feelings of the fat sad guy the same way that they'd blow off beta schlubs asking for dating advice, and for the exact same reasons - a quick hi…
/r/TheRedPill07/03/15 04:13 PM
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Women think that men always somehow had it all. That's because the only men that they noticed in fact had it all - or at least, had a whole hell of a lot more than those women did. The other 90% of males? Invisible.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 09:47 PM
2

Heartiste wrote about this as chick crack.
/r/askTRP05/03/15 09:29 PM
2

so why is this woman-specific though? Because nobody is coming to TRP to learn how to dump their nuts into a man.
/r/askTRP05/03/15 02:37 PM
1

I'm only Facebook friends with 2 of those guys. Should that be my number? "Maybe it only counts if I'm Facebook friends with them" - oh my fucking sides. Gentlemen, this is why you've got to get them to show you the HoFax before getting into a committed relationship.
/r/askTRP05/03/15 02:31 PM
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Women are more ruled by emotion than men are. This is why so much of TRP is based on dealing with a woman's feelings and not her logic (see: holding frame, shit tests, game of all sorts, treating women like children, training women like dogs, amused mastery, freeze out, and on and on and on). This is why women are attracted to assholes and scumbags and other types that they logically should not be attracted to, instead of the lame beta provider that they logically should be attracted to. Alpha t…
/r/askTRP05/03/15 02:26 PM
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You'd do better if you were taller, richer, more muscular, and had better game. The question is, which of those things can you improve on?
/r/askTRP05/03/15 02:35 AM
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You just taught her to keep her mouth shut around you.
/r/askTRP05/03/15 02:33 AM
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But, in the then and there, what is the appropriate response? Curl up in a ball like a little bitch and take the blows. Do NOT hit her, do NOT attempt to restrain her. If this is a live-in situation and she (hopefully) leaves marks, speed dial the cops and file domestic violence charges against her. Put her ass in jail, get a restraining order. If this is not a live in situation, hard next. It's over, peace the fuck out. Men are at an extreme legal disadvantage in domestic violence situations. D…
/r/askTRP05/03/15 02:31 AM
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So my question is, why do a great majority of RP'ers avoid LTR's instead of viewing them as another challenge to overcome? You know something else that's a challenge to overcome? Dislocating your knee. That's the worst pain I've ever felt, the first time I did this I literally blacked out and woke up on the ground screaming. I managed to writhe around and pop it back into place. I've done this a few times, so now I've learned to avoid taking quick cuts and watch how I push with my legs. I wouldn…
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 06:20 AM
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so if she shit tests me with "Do you want to get married" what is a suitable response for TRP? "I am never getting married again" was my response to that one the last time it came up. It hasn't come up since.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 05:13 AM
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I'd punch people like you in the face if they came up to me. I hope you like wearing denim because you're going to be spending a lot of time in County lockup. Really though, you're probably not punching out random weirdos.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 05:06 AM
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The hard part here is dealing with her demanding to know what you've been doing. "I flew down to Brazil to bang some hookers." "I decided to join a monastery, but it was too quiet, so I came back." "Doing fun stuff."
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 04:58 AM
2

I know what you mean, and I agree with you, but man... certain other subreddits are going to have a good time linking to and quoting this one. Who cares what certain other subreddits say? They can have their panties knotted all they want, while TRP helps its members keep their pimp hand strong.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 04:56 AM
2

However, I have this problem with authority, where because people are in positions of authority they think they can just order me around without justification. I personally don't believe this. You don't go to work for justice, you go to work to get a paycheck. However, I don't see any of my superiors as legitimate superiors to me. Neither do I. But I get steady paychecks by not confronting them over insignificant things such as their mental, moral, and genetic defects. I think I could do their j…
/r/askTRP04/03/15 04:42 AM
3

MGTOW is ineffective at conveying a message to women via sexual embargo and this is why MGTOW ultimately fails. The more effective a boycott or cartel is the more incentive there is to defect. As more men drop out of the market the price of poon drops along with them, until a new equilibrium is reached. Supply and demand. But MGTOW isn't about starving those thirsty bitches out in order to further some collective goal. MGTOW is about men making conscious choices to put themselves first, instead …
/r/TheRedPill03/03/15 02:38 PM
2

How do I bring up the subject of intimacy? You don't. If she agrees to plans with you alone then you attempt to escalate sexually. I was obviously thinking about doing a move there but there is still a month left. So make plans earlier than that.
/r/askTRP03/03/15 02:02 AM
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Why the fuck do they treat me like this? Because you are of no value to them. You aren't a hot young stud that they want to fuck, you're some dopey loser that hangs around them and demonstrates low value by "ask how the fuck to get laid". Does this happen to anyone else? Yes, you'll find that many of the men in TRP were once young dopey losers who thought that womens' feminist BS as true. Question is what you want to do about it. You've taken the first step of exiling these twats from your life.
/r/askTRP03/03/15 01:59 AM
4

Go ask /r/RedPillWomen. Ain't nobody around here going to give you decent advice because ain't nobody around here been a 19 year old chick with big dreams and a smoking body.
/r/askTRP03/03/15 01:39 AM
1

I'd like to hear the real truth on height. The truth is that you can't change it. Now what? Curl up in a ball and cry is one option. Another is to figure out what you can change and work on those things. Looks, money, status, game.
/r/askTRP03/03/15 01:37 AM
5

I can also guarantee you that if it was written to apply only to the lies told by men (not by women), it would also not survive a constitutional challenge. The way the law is written is one thing, the way the law is interpreted and enforced is another. No prosecutor is going to be pressing charges against the dumpling in the article for wearing makeup to cover up her crows' feet, for instance, but they might well see the value in pressing charges against the male in the article, because it's cle…
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 03:09 PM
5

that targets falsity and nothing more Do you suppose that the Supreme Court would give weight to an argument than a law that prohibited lying to women in order to protect women from predatory males was Constitutional?
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 01:49 PM
4

"A measured balance of both" isn't the simple binary solution I'm looking for! Worse, that measured balance is different for every man, and even for a single man, that measured balance will change with time and circumstances. What the OP gives is a way of thinking about the problem, not a solution.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 02:09 AM
2

/r/Steroidsourcetalk
/r/askTRP02/03/15 01:56 AM
5

An oldie but a goodie, the DiCarlo Escalation Ladder (PDF link).
/r/askTRP01/03/15 11:18 PM
1

It's a litmus test of sorts. After viewing it do you want to run away in revulsion from the Alec Baldwin character, or do you want to go sell some real estate?
/r/askTRP01/03/15 04:40 AM
2

Sales of any kind will make or break you. So will any kind of public facing job (PS: you will learn to hate the general public).
/r/askTRP01/03/15 04:17 AM
2

is the above method (freeze out) a good way of overcoming LMR without being rapey? How could withholding physical contact be "rapey"?
/r/askTRP01/03/15 04:15 AM
2

When we are face to face she is obviously flirting with me, ... What do I do from here? I'm assuming she just doesn't want her bf to see the messages You escalate sexually by inviting her, in face to face conversation, to "hang out" with you at a specific time and place. As in "Come over to my place Tuesday after work and we can hang out". You'll get your answer real quick - she'll either make plans to show up with you alone at a specific place and time, or she won't. If she won't then you can c…
/r/askTRP28/02/15 04:37 PM
1

Maybe she's thirsty for a 'nice' guy. Maybe she sees it as dominant father like behavior. Maybe she's playing you (note that you got a 'wow' expression but not an F-close). Let us know how this all works out for you in the end, if you get more than a 'wow' expression. You know, how many dates it took to get her into bed and how wild the sex was. The reason that TRP advises against this kind of thing is that it easily comes across as supplication. In general, spending money on chicks right away +…
/r/askTRP28/02/15 04:31 PM
1

How old are you and how old is she?
/r/askTRP28/02/15 04:16 PM
0

Threads are LITERALLY for discussion. This particular thread is worthless to this subreddit. You could go get enlightened on that purple pill subreddit if you want to challenge red pill ideas. Ain't nobody got time for you jibba jabba heah.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/15 06:48 AM
0

You can't complain about women for not "being" what you want, yet deny to answer questions when people want to learn. Pretty sure I can. Don't like it? Leave.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/15 06:45 AM
0

And what I meant by that statement was that calling me stupid for asking questions and challenging some of TRP's content isn't going to improve and expand my knowledge Your petulant demands for answers aren't going to get you anywhere. Nobody's looking for converts to redpill-ism. it won't help me want to if people who support this self improvement/sexual strategy void any critical questions. Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/15 06:37 AM
3

I think he means automated as in robot cars.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/15 05:29 AM
3

With coworkers and such, if it's work related To add: if it's NOT work related, then shut up and go about your business. It's not your problem to save the world, but it is your problem to keep cashing paychecks.
/r/askTRP26/02/15 02:52 AM
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I'm not tryin' to save you hoes'n How come when I was broke you wasn't brown nosin'?
/r/TheRedPill26/02/15 02:46 AM
1

You're not "talking to her" you're trying to win her back. Big difference in mindset. she's confused dude I think you're leaving out critical details of the whys behind her ditching you, but the bottom line is that you aren't attractive enough for her to keep around. Those are feelings not logic, and you're going to talk with her and try to reason with her. Logic doesn't build sexual attraction.
/r/askTRP26/02/15 02:42 AM
1

Women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of commitment. Consider the standoff of who caves first, and how that sets the tone of the relationship.
/r/askTRP26/02/15 02:33 AM
1

due to the fact that she's not ready for another relationship after her last one Sure. "It's not you, /u/GOODRICH777, it's me." You're so caught up with her you believe that shit. If she wasn't ready for a relationship why'd she get into one with you? No, she's ready for a relationship, just not with you. just an outline of the good times and that I'm better than past guys etc It's worse than weak, it's logic. Logic isn't going to win out over feels. I won't be waiting forever, I'll move on to a…
/r/askTRP26/02/15 02:31 AM
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Here's a hint, take a look through their post history. An unsurprising number of them are posters in the blue pill subreddit or chicks, or both. Downvote and report.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/15 02:23 AM
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"We carefully screen our male clients for suitability, including finances and personality."
/r/TheRedPill26/02/15 02:18 AM
4

That's really cool and all, as a 28[F] though we don't need your opinion.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/15 02:11 AM
2

Why are you posting in that blue pill subreddit and then coming in here concern trolling?
/r/TheRedPill26/02/15 02:07 AM
3

but no it's the WOMEN who are oh so terrible. There's little danger of MEN fucking me or most of the men in this thread over in a relationship. So yeah, WOMEN are oh so terrible, and keep that in mind the next time you're thinking about putting a ring on some twat's puffy sausage finger.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/15 02:03 AM
1

A man who doesn't care about the type of man he is, is the definition of a beta male. Glad you've cleared that up for me, since you're such an expert and all. One of TRP's most prominent posters is Ian Ironwood and he's been married for like 20 years. Granted I think the guy is a retard and a fake Or are you a troll? You have a very skewed grasp of what TRP is about, are you in high school? Troll confirmed. Let's see if I can get you banned. Here's hope!
/r/TheRedPill26/02/15 01:51 AM
1

I can't fathom why you'd say that makes them irrelevant/unworthy for TRP. I'm not trying to fuck dudes, that's why. Whether a trait is general human nature or not matters zilch in regards to whether women exhibit that trait.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/15 01:49 AM
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you conveniently left out the part where the guy had herpes too and was just as guilty as the girl. You leave out the part where TRP isn't concerned with marrying men. I'm not concerned with the sort of man my "future wife" marries, but I am concerned with the sort of woman my "future wife" would be. Quotes for obvious reasons. This shit happens to both sexes. TRP isn't about womens' problems.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/15 03:20 PM
0

I'll bet a nickel that lil' miss blowies-for-chores wasn't withholding sex before marriage. Dude's options are highly restricted since he put a ring on it though and this chick understands it.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/15 02:31 PM
-3

At one time it was. Now, there's no guarantee of sex from the woman, but a guaranteed transfer of resources from the man. That's a pretty bad deal.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/15 02:28 PM
3

It has the sense of little kids playing dress up. Too scripted, too fake, too goofy. OK, now make sure you tie this intricate knot pattern just right, then spank me while you're wearing the red mask...
/r/askTRP24/02/15 05:38 AM
2

So unless you have a time machine, that advice isn't going to help the OP. Recognizing when to fold a losing hand - or at least when not to push all your chips into the table - is critical. OP doesn't lose much by laying low and making deliberate plans.
/r/askTRP24/02/15 05:10 AM
1

Sometimes there aren't any good choices - just less bad ones. How did you handle your ugly divorce?
/r/askTRP24/02/15 04:21 AM
1

Remember that a divorce filing usually comes with a financial restraining order against both parties that prevents (in theory) shenanigans with mutual finances. And right now all your finances are mutual. Once your divorce is final, maybe you come into some cash some how. I'm just saying. Seeding this post with misinformation (to prevent doxxing of course) and deleting this reddit account (to prevent doxxing of course) would be smart things to do as well.
/r/askTRP24/02/15 04:12 AM
2

I thought this sub was about having confidence and securing a good woman. What it's not about is tone policing.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 03:20 PM
3

Funny, just a week or so ago you were shit talking TRP. Now you're here trying to correct an endorsed contributor. Just shut up already.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 02:52 AM
3

"Techno game" does not render anyone powerless. Techno game doesn't showcase many of these things clothes, car, home appliances that show wealth, height, build, stature, accomplishments, cool job/uniform, word of mouth from friends, fame, attitude, ideology, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. Just stop taking things so literally.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 02:42 AM
5

Since they planted no seeds of talent or skill, they had nothing to harvest so their happiness starved. "Youth is wasted on the young".
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 02:36 AM
1

He's a fucking retard, TRP is social ebola.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/15 06:58 PM
1

You throw these terms around in person Who on Earth is talking about TRP in real life? Not me and I hope for your sake, not you.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/15 12:45 AM
10

Don't forget a man with ambition and a guy who has something going for him.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/15 12:33 AM
1

If you run around spouting at the mouth about this bitch or that bitch people around you will notice ... ou will be that guy that no one wants to be around. You just killed all the social connections from that group You confuse reddit with real life. Social connections that could have gotten you laid. You seriously confuse reddit with real life. Ain't nobody getting laid from their social reputation on reddit.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/15 12:30 AM
-1

Can we work on trying to have discussions about the redpill without sounding like teenagers with self esteem problems? More than a few of the people here are in fact teenagers with self esteem problems, but more to the point, why should anyone here give a runny shit what reddit as a whole thinks of us? Sorry to spoil any aspirations you might have of acceptance and hugs and whatever else you might want from the reddit community as a whole but TRP is, always was, and always will be the subject of…
/r/TheRedPill21/02/15 10:09 PM
6

You hear what you want to hear. OP, don't read any more into it than this. Blue pill types hear low SMV men talking bad about women in TRP and hear misogyny. They hear high SMV men talking bad about women and their britches get wet. What's the difference? About 7 points on the hotness scale.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/15 07:20 PM
-5

It's like screwing a 10 year old boy. Tom Leykis once said about A cups, men who prefer them wish you were 12 years old.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/15 07:11 PM
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Reject women such as fat, ugly or petite women Curious, why are petite women in the same category as fatties and fuggos?
/r/TheRedPill21/02/15 06:58 PM
44

True love means love at any size. He's a nice guy, not shallow at all. He loves me for me, not for a number on a scale.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/15 06:51 PM
1

Ask her to show you the HoFax.
/r/askTRP21/02/15 06:50 PM
288

He'll make a woman a great husband someday. A really nice guy. Would be a great stepfather for someone's kids.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/15 06:42 PM
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