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5

I have been wondering the same. Most adults need to function in the real world, this includes their job and just about every job in the world has a requirement for grooming and hygiene.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:02 PM
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The possibility there could be someone on the other side who we are attracted to. Most men do not have options for casual sex, so any possible lead is worth taking. Personally I don’t do it, but I am see the logic
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:08 PM
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More depression than butthurt because I don’t feel anger, but sure
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 12:53 PM
1

I honestly don’t care that she herself has a high number, it just reminds me that i didn’t get to experience casual sex. Which is why I don’t want fo be with her, it’s not really about her
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 12:11 PM
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Who have defined jaws and are tall lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 12:09 PM
17

Damn, this bitch tried to straight up gaslight you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:10 AM
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Anything higher than my own. I am at 7 at 29
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:07 AM
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You gotta take it situation by situation. Like many said the two questions have to be answered. How much do I like my friend? Is this a close friend that if I get caught the loss of them from my life will be a devastating one to me and my life? Will doing this hurt them? Once I get that out of the way, then it’s how hot do I find her? I look at my friendship first and foremost. Girls come and go, but a good friend is hard to come by. Even me, a guy who wants casual hookups or any NSA sex more th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:02 AM
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So then what are young attractive women into? Because I almost guarantee any of the men you name will have at least 2 of the traditional masculine features I described
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 01:57 AM
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Perhaps, but there are masculine features that are attractive. Strong or defined jaws, being tall, having shoulders wider than waist. These are masculine features that are near universally found attractive. Even the guys in BTS, who people say are feminine, still have these masculine base features. Maybe the clothing, hairstyle, and makeup (if worn) changes, but what doesn’t is that those features are found attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 01:49 AM
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So I guess you’re really attracted physically to men with weak chins who are short and balding? Besides, I said most women, not all. You really going to tell me most women aren’t into the men you mentioned? Or into men with the features they have which make them attractive, being tall or average height, strong jaws, muscular
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:02 PM
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I don’t hate women, and I never said I hated women for this. The fact that women do this doesn’t make me angry, it’s when people lie about it and try to gaslight others.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:48 PM
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Who said they didn’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:32 PM
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I think that’s sort of true, but most women tend to find the same features attractive. It’s why men who have these features do the best on tinder, get more casual sex, get more attention, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:03 PM
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The whole concept of “personality being why you can’t get hookups” is a lot of BS. Women have admitted time and time again it’s looks first and foremost, followed by personality. A guy could be a terrible human being and he’ll still bring women home every weekend if he wants to as long as he’s attractive. This isn’t hard to understand, casual sex is physical so of course it’s going to be looks based. The constant gaslighting though is what gets me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 02:22 PM
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That’s also true, but it’s safe to say that to do any of it you need the looks first to pull it off. Women have admitted that looks is first and foremost the biggest prerequisite for casual sex or being considered “hookup material”. Confidence and charm play a part too though, just not as big as one
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 01:12 PM
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It’s funny, it seems like to be a Fuckboy you do actually need to have the looks to pull it off. You can’t be average looking and one, you won’t even be given the time of day. You ask TRP or PPD, they’ll tell you an average looking dude can be one. It’s laughable
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:06 AM
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You’re probably right that it’s some lizard brain thing, but fact is it happens and we can deny how much looks matter in casual sex all we want. It doesn’t change reality
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:48 AM
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Made that same comment, guess their detectors were broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 09:58 PM
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Alright, so why do women still have sex that results in bad sex or reward the guy who doesn’t care about them? Blame the people rewarding the bad behavior if you don’t like said behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 09:32 PM
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I’m not denying that either. I think we’re saying kind of the same thing, just wording it differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 09:24 PM
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OP, we understand that women are less likely to orgasm and that most women don’t really like casual sex. Fact is plenty of these women still do it anyway with men they deem hot enough as hookup material. That’s also what men find so appealing about casual sex, it’s a huge boost to the ego because you’re one of the “chosen ones” that’s considered hookup material. Everyone can BS all they want, but casual sex is like 70% ego based and 30% sex. If it was more sex or just having sex, men would fuck …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 09:06 PM
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That’s a very small group of men. Most men who can get a baddie while being average will have the opposite effect. It inflates their ego, makes them think that’s their standard and they could continue to get women like this. This happened to me when I was younger and dated a very hot and desired girl in college, genuinely believed I was at that level and could get women like that. For me, when the very rare times a woman is interested in me occur, I don’t think she’s below me for thinking that. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 09:03 PM
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I think a lot of that for average guys is very luck based much more than I think we give it credit for. Women will say “I’ve hooked up with an average guy or average guys before”, but leave out that a majority of the dudes they’ve been with are Chad-lites to Chad. That was a momentary dip in their standards, meanwhile the average or below average guy would have gotten his first successful lay in months or even years. I don’t doubt average men can do a hookup, but it’s going to be a lot of time i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:59 PM
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And to think, if you ask TBPers about not getting laid, they’ll tell you it’s misogyny or whatever BS. I guess those women’s detectors were broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 07:05 PM
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No. I don’t want to fuck my family or friends so the goal of the conversation and interaction is different. But having normal conversations is easy enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:59 PM
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Yeah, no woman is gonna give an average looking bad boy the time of day, unless she happens to be super fat or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:47 PM
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Sure, but she still had sex with the guys before sooner than she did with me. Why did she let them get it sooner than she did me? It obvious the reason why is attractiveness, but I’m not a fan of being treated differently, especially if she supposedly “likes me more”.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 07:17 PM
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Look, call it what you want, but if I’m getting not as good a deal as the dudes before, then I’m gonna feel cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 07:07 PM
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From a guy’s perspective, it’s because she slept with other men sooner than me. If she was consistent with every other guy before me and made them wait too, then fine idc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 06:37 PM
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No, I don’t talk to any of my exes. When the relationship is over, my rule is to cut contact. There is nothing I need to talk to them about, or have any reason to continue to have them be a part of my life. If we have mutual friends, I’ll be civil, but I have no desire to continue any sort of relationship with them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 04:40 PM
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Yup. To me, all that sounds like a good problem to have because all I want is casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:17 AM
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some may try it out a couple of times And it’s always with a guy in the top 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:15 AM
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This ain’t even his final form
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:11 AM
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Different things validate women than men. Yes, if you or I had the abundance for hookups, matches, FWBs, we would be very happy because as a guy these things validate us. Meanwhile for the most part being considered by most women as “boyfriend material” or the ease of getting relationships doesn’t. For women on the other hand, they are the opposite. They’d love the ease of getting into relationships, or to be considered gf material. Sure they can swipe on tinder and have a dude over in a couple …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:09 AM
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I think you’re right on the muscles thing, because I do believe women genuinely mean it when they say it. It is impossible to be attractive or unattractive to every single woman on earth. It is possible to be attractive to most in a given area, and it isn’t wrong to state that there are features that most women are attracted to. I’m not wrong to say most women like a body that has shoulders wider than their waist, or a full head of hair, or a defined jaw with a strong chin, or tall. You’ll run i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:22 PM
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Quite an autistic rant, but I do agree with a lot of what you’re saying and in my experience much of this is true. Though, I think you’re just demonizing women a bit too much here. I don’t think they are actively trying to stop you from improving, rather they do think it’s genuinely good advice. Except maybe when you say you want casual sex and ask them for advice, and the response usually is “well, you shouldn’t. You should find a relationship”. That is definitely being purposeful. Also a note …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:10 PM
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Can’t think of more than 2 women that looked so vastly different. Usually if they post a pic they do indeed look like that, maybe they have angles that accentuate their looks but only slightly. Funny enough, I’ve gotten a few reviews that say I look taller in photos than I actually am. Had a few dates where the girl was like “huh, I expected you to be taller tbh”. I did not try to do this either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 10:56 PM
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OP are you fitting the description mentioned in the post? Anyway, they get lucky and maybe find one on the app. But out of frustration and hits to their ego they delete the app and just go back to good ol meeting women outside. It can go either way, but if you’re actually average looking then you should be able to find someone to be in a relationship with
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 10:54 PM
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Both fair points you made.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 01:02 AM
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I don’t know, at my gym in a college town there are plenty of women with snatched waists and big booties hanging out at the squat rack.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 12:42 AM
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Wow, you mean there’s nuance in the real world? GTFO
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 06:19 PM
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If I am a single parent, then sure. But I am not, so I wouldn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 05:10 AM
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This. Bad boy needs looks to go along with the attitude. Women aren’t gonna deal with an average looking or short bad boy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 04:30 AM
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Well, we’re talking about casual sex here mind you, and he was doing this with women in their 20s, probably 18/19 too. Ya know, during their “fun or hoe phase”. When it comes to casual sex, many women admit the requirements are just being hot and having basic social skills, two things we know he has. I think looking for a partner you’d be right, and I don’t think many women looking for a relationship would exactly choose him unless he starts to give relationship vibes, but it’s not exactly that …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 04:27 AM
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Your experience is for sure not the norm, and you can’t really use it as “aha! See, TRP is totally wrong!”. TRP looks more at things from a general perspective, and this is plainly obvious too. I’ve never understood why this is so hard to grasp and in every thread you got one person saying “uhhhh I’m not like that, so you’re totally wrong, it’s not all men/women”. No one said it was, it’s just most.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 11:59 PM
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Manliness doesn’t always mean less attractive though. He’s probably just less attractive and your bad boy friend has more generally attractive features than his brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 11:37 PM
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In my opinion, it’s a guy who is generally considered physically attractive by most of the female population in a given setting who is insanely confident in himself and lives how he wants barring breaking any laws that can land him in serious jail time. That being said, to be a bad boy (a successful one anyway), you gotta have the looks first.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 11:10 PM
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To be fair, he did start with “good looking”. Attractive men who most women can agree are attractive can easily rack numbers up for obvious reasons. If he was short and balding, sure I’d be skeptical. But it’s entirely believable based on his description. Hell, like OP said, he probably doesn’t even have to lie. The women would have already decided to go home with him before he spoke. He just chooses to for some reason or another, it may just literally be engrained into him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 11:07 PM
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Yeah, sounds like a coworker of mine I’m semi close with. Just got married like 2 years ago, and pretty much does all but number 5 (because we don’t talk about sex, but if we did he’d more than likely hit that too.)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 02:31 AM
1

It’s just the capacity that many men have. Men can fuck a girl once and never speak to her again, and will be willing to do it the next night with an entirely different girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 06:21 PM
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Male sexuality isn’t broken, it’s just viewed negatively by the general population unless the guy happens to be attractive and has sex with not too many women, or it’s only in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 02:15 PM
1

People like to believe that they are always the victim and they are perfect. There have been relationships I have had where I genuinely believed I was the victim at the end, only to look back during my healing phase where I realized I was actually kind of terrible as well to them. Like in therapy, their feelings are still valid, but their feeling just may/may not be an objective truth. Take being depressed or paranoid that everyone is out to get you, yes you feel that way and it is totally valid…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 02:12 PM
1

Hard to say, I guess in their mind they think they love them even when cheating, but that doesn’t mean the person cheated on believes it or feels love themselves. I personally do not think it’s possible, and by cheating on someone you have decided you no longer love them, due to risks that cheating can create. Either way, there is no good reason or valid reason to cheat. I don’t care if you’re not satisfied in your relationship, you’re still a horrible person for doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 02:10 PM
3

I didn’t even think about the parents thing, but you’re right.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 02:07 PM
0

How small we talking here?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 06:30 AM
1

It’s essentially just a way to keep attraction, but it’s not enough to create attraction. She needs to already be attracted to you in order for any of your game to do anything. Now how attracted she is to you determines how much game you actually need or how good it has to be. Like a 6 has to be very good with his game, downright perfect in everything he says or does and the slightest slip up will turn her off, while the 8 just has to not say “Hitler was a great man”. It also determines how bad …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 01:18 AM
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Chad is having most of the casual sex and it’s a big big majority of it, but not all of it. For anyone that isn’t Chad, you have to be literally perfect in every other way for it to happen, and be in the right place at the right time. It’s not consistent in the slightest, and at many times you’ll wait months or even years in between a hookup. Some of these men never even get one in their lives because they just never meet one of those small pool of women who are going to be willing to hookup wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 07:15 PM
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That’s a fair point, and I have seen a lot more “acceptance” and “agreeing” recently on these topics. Still though, it feels like sometimes this sub feels like TRP 2.0, and we just have circle jerk conversations about those topics. I’m all for debate, and discussing these things of course (mostly because I also have feelings on it), but I feel like we’ve debated all there is to debate and the results of each time we debate these things is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 01:02 PM
2

It did use to be, but many of the bluepillers were chased out long ago. Nowadays we just get threads on the same 6 topics that are slightly reworded, with the Purge weeks being more frequent because the conversation’s been getting stale.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 12:40 PM
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Usually self haters still go for the white dudes that are average height at least, from my experience in the US. And nah, I didn’t have any luck anywhere when it came to casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 11:42 PM
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Oh I already failed then, I thought “failed fuckboy” fit better for my situation tbh 🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:56 PM
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Know thyself
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:54 PM
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I’m 5’6, my “white” card was lost in the mail
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:53 PM
2

Man, zero
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:43 PM
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Didn’t for me. I had like 1200 matches in a year and a half of using tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:35 PM
2

Been saying this for a while. That’s why the number of matches don’t even matter, the amount of casual sex you get does.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 08:36 PM
3

That I agree with
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 06:34 PM
5

Alright, but my point kind of still stands then, the physical attributes are actually what matters here. Of course there is no man who will universally be attractive to every woman, that’s absolutely impossible. But, there is no clothing or style or whatever that will make you “taller than her in heals” (figuratively of course, unless you wear lifts, then they can literally make you taller) or make your jaw stronger. Most men cannot pass the looks threshold, which is the point I’m making.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 06:11 PM
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You’re somewhat correct, but the fact is that most women find the same physical features attractive. Usually this is being tall and/or having masculine facial features (strong jaw/chin). There are types, I guess. But I don’t really see any bars where a majority of women prefer weak chins or short men. I’ve been social enough to be able to hang with different groups of people and subcultures outside of my core friend group, and the dudes getting laid always had the same physical features, only th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 04:18 PM
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Yeah I’m the first 1, but I don’t really complain about the necessary n count she has, only that I didn’t get casual sex myself. This is all very well said, I was basically locked out from the getgo.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 04:14 PM
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I don’t think they’re actually ugly, they’re mostly just plain/average looking who yeah are punching above their weight so to speak and are finding not a lot of success. Like TRP was made to help average guys sort of fill in the gaps to do better dating wise. Some of the advice is actually good (Lift Weights, don’t put pussy on a pedestal, be less outwardly autistic, be more social), and yeah the frat dude who played sports in high school and was popular probably knows this, but an average looki…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 04:38 PM
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I’m not OP. I was just replying. And don’t worry, I’ve heard what you said before.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 03:23 PM
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Yeah, I’ve never been able to experience hook ups. It genuinely makes me want to kill myself some days. Especially when I put my money and time toward trying to become attractive enough to do so for the last decade. I’ve accepted I can’t and never will have it, but that doesn’t make me less miserable
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 03:07 PM
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And here it is, the absolute truth we’ve been getting to with all those threads about women not hooking up with “boyfriend material” guys. If she doesn’t fuck you on the first date, she doesn’t find you attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 03:04 PM
1

Validation, it’s why men do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 03:02 PM
1

You are responsible for your own actions. If you’re a woman who chooses a Fuckboy and gets fucked over, that’s absolutely on you. If you’re a guy who doesn’t vet properly and chooses a gold digger who takes 50% of your shit, that’s absolutely on you. You’re an adult, understand that you had a hand in this unless you were threatened to make this choice with a gun against your head, in other words made to “choose”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 03:01 PM
1

Lower than my own
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 02:57 PM
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Hookups have more variety, and for men more validation that come from them than relationship sex. Having sex via a relationship means one person finds you attractive, and it could be because of anything else (personality, resources, etc) having casual sex means multiple do, and they find you physically attractive enough to want to do something totally based on physical appearance
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 02:56 PM
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To be fair, I was already vetted because I came with a POC so then it was just “oh, whatever”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:16 PM
1

True, but that doesn’t necessarily make him more attractive, he just stands out as “wow that’s the white person at this party”. I have had this happen to me once, but I would say I get the same attention I get normally (the Average male experience I described)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:07 PM
1

I would say my explanation is a good judge for the west, or any country that doesn’t have very traditional conservative views. In Japan for example, they sometimes don’t even make eye contact with anyone, or like in Saudi Arabia women aren’t really allowed to look at dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:03 PM
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I think an average guy is a guy who can find a relationship with a looksmatched or even slightly above looksmatched girl somewhat easily, but will find getting casual sex pretty hard, and it will be with women he most likely doesn’t find attractive. At least in dating. But, for average “looks”, I consider it a guy that just sort of fades into the background. He doesn’t turn heads, his presence is only noticed when he speaks to someone or when he does something that requires people’s attention. P…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:57 PM
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Ego. If he has the options, most times he will cheat. There’s a saying that men are as loyal as their options. Some don’t, even if the cheating option for them is better, but there are other things that sort of go into his decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:51 PM
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Now hold on, my mindset isn’t “women should just fuck me”. That implies I feel I “deserve” it or it’s a right I have. I do not feel this way at all, you’ve completely misunderstood me here. I don’t blame society for the issues, or even blame women for it. I know others do, but I don’t. I don’t hate women for it, I hate myself for not being good enough to have casual sex. And it absolutely is not society’s job to fix the issue for me, or for women to suddenly consider me the conventional vision o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:18 PM
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Says the guy who was able to make that decision himself, I was never even given the opportunity to actually make the decision if I like casual sex, or find out if it gives me the validation I want. The only sex ive been able to have it via a relationship or in the context around one. I’ve been to therapy, I’m on like my third medication. It ain’t doing anything for me. But don’t worry, I’ve accepted it plenty. I’m just miserable about it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:44 PM
3

Validation
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:29 PM
4

It’s an analogy. But fine, if you want to get too into that then just use my money comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:55 PM
2

That I agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:13 AM
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If you truly believe it’s about the specific act of sex, you’re missing exactly why people here are angry
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:09 AM
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Maybe you might understand the hungry if you weren’t fed, the poor if you were rich. You’re getting sex twice a week through Grindr, most men can’t get casual twice in one year.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:08 AM
3

Hookers don’t provide the validation from a hookup
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:05 AM
3

So, why is the hookup guy getting it before I am? He has to do less to get it, but why?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:02 AM
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So, if I mean more to her, exactly why rob me of something I want? This is the stupidest reasoning I’ve seen on here, everyone knows men want sex. You think the boyfriend material guy is okay with you making him wait but not the hookup guy? You just said she finds the hookup guy hotter physically. This isn’t a good thing at all, if I could I’d be the hookup guy in a heartbeat. Fuck all that noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:16 AM
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It depends kind of where you are in life. Like, if you’re a person in their 20s with no relationship experience you will be in for a bad time. If you’re like 18, it’s not a huge deal tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:10 AM
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It means that I’m maybe attractive via personality or some other non physical related trait, but it doesn’t mean I’m physically attractive. But the situation you described isn’t what we’re talking about here. In yours, you’re implying I’m still getting sex on the first date and then being a boyfriend. Thats not what we’re saying, we’re saying “boyfriend material” means that she makes him wait for sex because she “likes him so much”, meanwhile she has sex with the hookup guy on the first date. Ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:03 AM
4

Being upfront about it doesn’t make her want it though. I have been upfront about wanting it, and it hasn’t done anything for me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:57 AM
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For me, it’s not necessarily the act of sex as to why I want hookups. It’s the validation that comes from the act, and that it means as a man I am attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:56 AM
1

I don’t know tbh, because I definitely agree with you here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:21 PM
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Don’t know until you try. You could literally be the option she chooses in that moment and jumping to the front of the queue, being in the right place at the right time. Maybe you’re enough to be the “maybe” to a “yes” at the bar, club, party, etc. Maybe to her you are a “yes” and maybe she’s one of the women super attracted to you. Idk what you look like, so I can’t say if you’re conventionally attractive or not. However, if it doesn’t happen for you in that moment, do not stick around and beco…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 04:51 PM
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Some people want it, some people don’t. It really depends on the person, because many people actually do enjoy the experience. For me, as a guy who just never was able to have it, it feels like I missed out and am still missing out on something many people get to be a part of. Plus, the fact that I was more or less disqualified from even engaging in it makes me depressed to no end. If I did have it, I imagine it would be the best moment of my entire life because of how much I’ve wanted it to beg…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 04:47 PM
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Never said that. I said it’s very very rare, not that they will never find love and affection. And yeah there’s a chance they may never find one of those people in that small pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 08:45 PM
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Somebody might, but if you’re not the first guy your pool will be very very very small. So small that you might never even meet them. Let’s not kid ourselves here
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 08:22 PM
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Yeah. It’s like knowing your level of attractiveness or that you are attractive, or smart, or strong, or skilled in something. You need the outside factors that determine this kind of thing, and the world around you needs to decide where you sit. Sure, all I described there will be someone more attractive, stronger, smarter, more skilled at something than you are, richer than you. But, you can still be “better than most” and be fulfilled. It’s about getting closer to the top where in your every …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 08:17 PM
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For the first guy, his success is because he’s conventionally attractive. I think the second one is like the other guy said as right place right time. But, these two are certainly not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 08:12 PM
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I think you’re right. As a guy who many would consider “takes care of himself” an above average amount, I have been ridiculed by men and even women for doing so. I wouldn’t say I do anything crazy, just a skincare routine and quarterly facials for upkeep, I get my haircut at salons by hairstylists and I have “expensive and fancy” shampoos, conditions, and hair products. I get my hair colored at the salons occasionally too because I like how it makes me feel. I also go to a tailor to get my cloth…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 03:56 PM
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I had an ex who loved big noses on dudes, not a normal thing. Someone will find you attractive, but they may be the only one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:40 PM
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That’s just figuring out life in general and having the experience. Plus, hearing this shit as a teenager might defeat boys before they even try, especially if they’re in a vulnerable mental state (anxiety, depression, etc). I know it would have absolutely stopped me from doing anything I have done for my appearance, even if what you consider I did was softmaxxing. Hell, I probably wouldn’t have even tried to have sex or be in relationships, and I would have missed out on experiences that I’m fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 10:45 PM
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And? Knowing how to put a condom on doesn’t lead to sex. It’s about knowing how to take the precaution if you find yourself in the position to have sex. Hell a condom isn’t even needed, but if you’re not looking to procreate and don’t know if someone has been tested, it’s safer to use one What, do you want them to have PUA lessons?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 10:37 PM
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No? The education system is not here to teach you how to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 10:29 PM
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Fair enough, in a college setting it is very different. You’re right, being a member of a fraternity does absolutely raise your status in a university sense. Still though, the situation you’re talking about is still rare, that number is quite high and most average looking men don’t get laid that much. Hell, none of my single friends have gotten laid in 2 years, and it’s not for lack of trying. I wanted casual sex and could never get it my entire life. However, if they’re moderately attractive, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 10:26 PM
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Don’t know why this is such a weird concept. Cheating is not an accident, it never is. There are steps and prior action before the sex/act occurs, and at any time you should have realized what you were doing and stop. You chose to do it, it doesn’t matter what particular choice of gaslighting you attempt, it’s your fault
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 10:19 PM
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That’s def not the norm. How attractive are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 07:36 PM
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Know thyself
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:00 AM
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Idk, while I get 18 year old women might have more interest, most women don’t want to settle down, get married and pregnant at 18. Plus, the interest is entirely for fucking and sometimes a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:14 AM
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Yeah I think this is very true in the business world. A friend of mine is a financial advisor, and she’s damn good at it and does very well for herself. She’s told me that most of the time she needs to literally fight to be heard. But, she is very attractive, and I mean like Giga Stacy levels. The men listen because of that, and she’s very aware they only do it because they want to sleep with her. She admitted that if she wasn’t hot, she would be ignored and probably never get a job in the field…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:12 AM
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Because we’re shallow ourselves. What’s the point in calling out something we also would engage in if we could be successful in doing so. I’ll admit I’m not perfect and extremely consistent in my beliefs, but I know with that I’m not going to be a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:32 PM
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This has been brought up loads of times on this sub, but i thought this was an interesting experiment. You really don’t know how easy or hard you have it until you live a different life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:01 PM
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I remember that interview, she began to hate other women for how they viewed men and how they treated them. It’s very fascinating to say the least
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:55 PM
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A lot of people here seem to have this crazy reversal of cause and effect While simultaneously telling you that if you do certain actions for a desired outcome, and are disappointed it doesn’t happen, you’re entitled for even trying and expecting the same outcome other people get doing the same things you tried. They’ll say the same “you’re not trying hard enough to get sex/relationship/etc” though as if that’s what’s been holding a person back. It’s also why a lot of advice is “just make sure y…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 12:38 PM
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Also possibly true. You’d really have to ask them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 04:58 PM
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I think most attractive men try out casual sex for a bit, not like fucking every week and shit most times, but try it out a few times, realize they don’t like it and then just get into a relationship. The ones who are fucking chicks all the time and have 4 or 5 on their phone for FWBs or like the occasional “I’m drunk and horny” text probably make a sizable majority, but it’s not all of them.!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 04:34 PM
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Phony Bologna is rewarded because he’s attractive, that’s about it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 04:20 PM
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Yeah. I’ve seen it said that women will just create a persona for someone hot enough. People have said before “we’ll if he’s a poser he’ll be rejected”. Nah, that’s just not true. Let him go to a punk show, all he needs is some black jeans and a denim jacket. When the closest thing to punk he’s ever listened to is Smells Like A Teen Spirit, guarantee he’ll take home someone there anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:47 PM
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Yup, Chad can be whatever he wants and he will get laid. It’s all just a costume, what’s under the costume itself is what matters
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:34 PM
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I think it’s very eye opening too. Like sure he’s good in his “niche”, but when it comes to niche that only pertains to style. If you were to throw him in a Vineyard Vines shirt and put him in the fratty crowd, he’d do extremely well in your local college. If you put him in some gothic costume, he’d do extremely well in your industrial bar. If you put him in a half zip sweater and chinos, he’d do well in the more “20s professionals niche”. My point is that raw physical attributes are what attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 02:59 AM
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Huh, actually OP I agree with this. Looks is kind of a package deal. Like even if you have a face like Matt Bomer, being 5’2 with no style will still make things extremely difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 12:45 AM
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I think you’re correct, but with women they can at least more easily become attractive simply because the features men find attractive (presently anyway) can be fixed via hair cuts and color, makeup, workout routine, and clothing. Men are stuck in a fixed position with their looks in some cases as most of the traits women find attractive are for the most part the ones men can’t change. At least she can be a butterface and still find a boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 01:31 PM
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You’re correct, but who said you shouldn’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 01:26 PM
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Of course. I think this sub has a very bitter view on relationships and dating sometimes, so if you’re here for long enough you too can be bitter; albeit it’s varies in the amount of bitterness though and each person has their own level. However, many people are in happy LTRs with their SOs and feel fulfilled by just them. I have a couple of friends who have only had sex with their partner, one’s been with his gf for 6 years, the other for 10 with his now wife. If you ask them how they feel abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 02:09 PM
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Nope. That sounds like a win to me tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 02:04 PM
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Sure. You can be a very confident person in one situation and totally insecure and overthink others. Depends on your expertise and comfort. A friend I have is so confident in our friend groups and other friend groups, always funny and making jokes, and can basically talk about anything. Has to go talk to a woman in a romantic or sexual way? Clams up so bad and turns into a bumbling autist. It’s such a 180
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 05:31 PM
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Fucking exactly. That’s why I hate when people are like “just go to a hooker bruh”, it’s not even close to the same thing as getting hookups
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 10:49 PM
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Here’s the thing, the pillosphere(yuck) hasn’t gotten to the point where you start to bring the other parts of LGBT, hell it barely even discusses homosexuality beyond Lesbians having less sex, and gay men get casual sex easily for obvious reasons. And when you bring bi in the mix it’s always the same “I see from both sides and dating men/women is harder/easier than dating men/women”. Just put them together in whatever order you feel like. I think that’s fine and all too, but gender fluid, trans…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:01 PM
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I think Loki gets more simps because he’s famous more than anything. Plus, Tom Hiddleson does have good facial features. That, or they’re virtue signaling. And you’re right. We all know what Fuckboys are and what they look like, and they’re all generally the same in terms of raw physical characteristics. I do think muscles could be taken or left, but they are tall, have a good hairline, and strong facial features (jaw and chin mostly). Sure, I guess the style changes, but the person underneath t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:55 PM
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It depends on the person and their desires. If what you want is casual sex and attention from women, then yeah physical is all that matters. I think you should do it anyway to be your best self, I don’t get any attention from women after all I’ve done, but I still do it because it’s part of my routine and it just is me. Being yourself is good and all, but if no one likes that person you either have to change or deal with being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:47 PM
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The only solution is to become the vision of male attractiveness to the general population of women. Which everything but height can realistically be changed, but even short men can still get lots of attention and hookups if their face is attractive enough. So, lift, put the work into your beauty (grooming habits, haircuts, etc), and if you don’t see results get surgery as there are a wide array of options nowadays for men to use surgery for their facial aesthetics. We’re actually finding a down…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 11:30 AM
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Lol colored contacts is your solution? Get out of here with that, you may be delusional. Let me ask you, what did the guys you hooked up with look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 09:34 AM
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Maybe not all, but most do. I would say an even higher number have it once or twice because it’s available.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 09:28 AM
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As someone who has spent the last 13 years putting in effort to his clothing by wearing trendy clothes that fit me well and are tailored if required, getting regular haircuts from salons every 3-4 weeks, have had a skincare routine and even gets facials every few months for upkeep, I can tell you it has not got me casual sex whatsoever considering I’ve never been able to get a hookup. None of that is going to fix being 5’6 and having maybe a slightly above average face. Sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 09:22 AM
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I think you’re right in that women aren’t a hive mind, but you can’t deny that most women will be interested in hooking up with that top 10% man. It’s why that top 10% man is getting most of the matches and most of the casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 09:19 AM
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I don’t know if there is really a way to solve it from the male side. Sure, men can have all the standards they want, but in the end men are going to end up with the same women anyway. You can’t really ask women to change their preferences either, because you can’t change their minds or what makes them horny. You just sort of have to wait for the trends of what they find attractive possibly changes and hope you fit that mold It’s sort of a problem without a solution
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 09:16 AM
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I tried it once, I will never do it again. Even if my ex happens to be friends with my friends, I tell them that it’s fine they hang out with them, it’s fine if they stay in contact, but I absolutely won’t myself. I will never bash them in front of our friends, or demand they cut contact. We are adults, we can be civil around each other. You cannot be friends after being intimately involved with someone, even if the decision was a “mutual” one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 10:53 PM
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For relationships, I agree. But for casual sex, they absolutely are. The thing about height is that it’s not so much the exact number of inches/meters, it’s how you look compared to the men around you. In any given bar or club, I look shorter than most of the other dudes there which makes a difference. Not to mention, there are tons of examples of women just straight up rejecting a dude if he’s not tall enough
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 05:31 AM
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Parties, bars, clubs, concerts, festivals, OLD too
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 06:04 AM
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Shit, never happened to me. Sex was only available after a relationship was established, or we were on the way to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 05:36 AM
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Dude, stop acting like you’re short, you’re literally average height unless you’re in the Netherlands. Stop being like “I get laid and I’m the same as you”. We’re not even in the same playing field, I’m 5’6🙄 I also dress nice and have put above average work into my grooming habits for over 13 years at this point, have a great job, live alone, I used to be confident up until 2-3 years ago and I didn’t get laid when I was. The best I could and still am able to get is relationships, and I don’t eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 05:35 AM
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I mean, you’re right, I won’t die a virgin because I have had sex, but it’s only been via relationships and never casually. Facially I’m maybe only slightly above, I’m the definition of “decent” looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 05:29 AM
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But the holy grails are exactly what you’re saying are not. When a man is having issues dating, the only thing he needs to do is become more attractive and those issues will go away for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:28 AM
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LTR maybe, but casual sex is impossible when you’re short. Women don’t want to hook up with a short dude
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:26 AM
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True. In college I knew a guy with an ugly face, like objectively ugly, and he had long hair with a slight receding hairline. Pretty skinny too. He still had chicks thirsting after him because he was like 6’7 and was literally always the tallest dude in the room. I think if you’re short or average height, a very handsome face will save you, the shorter you are, the more like Matt Bomer your face needs to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:22 AM
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How would I know? Like do I ask “are you an FDSer?”Idk why or how it would even come up in conversation, unless they say something really shitty like what the incels in drag say. But if they’re down to say it, then I guess I’d have to rethink it if someone is really here thinking that shit about my gender. I’d still hook up with them if they’re hot though, no doubt about that, there’s no ideology around that would make me not want to if I think they’re hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:18 AM
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I’d be curious if it’s the same guy constantly leveling up. Like for example, casual sex is what I have always wanted from the getgo, relationships is what I got. What do you care though if I want more? It’s not like I didn’t actually try yo get it, I literally got surgery to get it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:38 PM
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Well, originally I went in for a chin implant, but the surgeon felt it wouldn’t actually be aesthetic based on a few factors of my face currently. He did say that a better option to define the chin and jawline itself would be chin and neck lipo, I don’t have a double chin but there was some fullness. He also recommended Buccal fat removal (cheeks) but I decided against it due to the effects it can have later in life. He said if I don’t like it, or if I’m not totally happy we can possibly do fill…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 03:13 PM
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Fine, but your advice is directed at average men who can’t get hookups. So you actually kind of do
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:19 PM
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I do fine in getting relationships, just not causal sex. Just like every average guy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:18 PM
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I’m not saying you specifically. Sure there are men that just don’t care. But if a majority of men didn’t care about the ego and validation, then honestly most men would just go to hookers. It’s cheaper in the long run
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:14 PM
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Just because they let you hang out doesn’t mean they actually find you attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:11 PM
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Casual sex isn’t about the orgasm for many men, it’s about the ego and validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:10 PM
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Man, are you really being this serious? Obviously it’s generalities
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:49 PM
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Maybe you’re not average
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:49 PM
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I never even imagined I’d get hookups from a Stacy, I would have been absolutely happy with a Becky. And I did put in the effort, I still got no attention or casual sex. I decided to get surgery, and I’m still healing from my cosmetic surgery a few weeks ago so we’ll see if I get attention or not. Also men don’t care if she “ghosts” after hooking up, all we wanted was to fuck her for the night anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:48 PM
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I actually agree that society doesn’t owe men sex or casual sex, but I will say as a guy who did put in the effort for his physical appearance and didn’t find success, I’m definitely still disappointed and depressed about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:45 PM
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Hookers however don’t actually accomplish what you think they do. There’s no actual validation from the experience, it’s all pretend. She doesn’t actually want to be there or find you attractive, the only reason she’s even there is because you’re paying her to and she’s counting down the minutes til you’re done
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:43 PM
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To even qualify, you need your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:09 PM
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Dan Blizerian is a rich and attractive guy who is probably fun to be around and people feel comfortable around. Sure, I guess people who are salty they cannot have the same life might think he’s a “bad dude”, but we don’t even know what it’s like to party with him, how generous he may be with his drugs, etc. For all we know he could be the best host, guest, or client.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 03:23 PM
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Doesn’t mean the NDA won’t be held up or used in court though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 03:21 PM
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The validation is what I want casual sex for, not the actual act itself. If it truly was just sex, men would just go to hookers
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 05:56 PM
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It’s an ego thing, but more for the fact that she’s like super into them. So I think what you said is spot on, idk from personal experience, but honestly if I could I would do the same as that’s what I’d be looking to do
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 05:47 PM
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Possibly because they can’t get the more attractive ones
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:09 PM
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For hook ups it was always the hot dudes (income unknown). For relationships it was average income attractive men and average income average men. Being average didn’t write them off for relationships, but it did for hook ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 02:40 PM
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Depends on the age of the woman, the point she is in life, and what she is looking for. If she’s looking for a hookup, or is in college or early 20s, she isn’t going to care about the uglier high status/high earning male if she’s got the hot guy within reach, even for a relationship. If a relationship does form, if all he has are looks it won’t last, but she’ll absolutely hook up with the low income hot dude considering she is also most likely broke, but not broke enough to need a sugar daddy to…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 02:03 PM
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I got nothing to hide
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 10:10 PM
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5’6 and yes. I’ll admit it was taken by a photographer, but it’s the raw version of said photograph
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 05:16 PM
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the distinction shrinks every day I think because TRP still thinks it’s 2003 for the most part and they haven’t realized how different it is. I’ve seen dudes in their 40s legitimately try to talk about the casual sex market now, and all of their tips and tricks work the same. It’s like a boomer or Gen Xer giving a zoomer advice on how to get a job like they did when they were out of college. It’s nowhere even close to the same as it was Blackpill is making more prevalence because it was always i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:51 PM
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I think being short is a detriment. I would say that it hasn’t necessarily made finding relationships difficult for me, but has completely made casual sex out of reach for me. Women do not want to hook up with short men, that’s just reality, unless they are like extremely handsome looking. It’s interesting to see it put into words via studies, but I’m sure you’re gonna get the same BS responses of “it don’t matter”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:17 PM
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I’m confused, are you saying the last two comments are blackpill or redpill? The first one I think it’s definitely more redpill, but the second feels much closer to blackpill. It’s true btw, but it’s interesting to see Redpill more or less agree with it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:11 PM
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True, and it’s because they know it’s a much harder to fix, if it can be at all. I don’t think there are that many truly hopeless males
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:03 PM
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Yeesh, you’re right. I read through and was like “so you are fine being passed over for sex?”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:59 PM
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I have never even been given the opportunity to cheat, though if it did I doubt I would honestly. I’d maybe break up with whatever woman I’m with, but that’s about it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:27 PM
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I wouldn’t be hard on yourself. You figured it out and learned from your mistakes. Takes a lot of mental maturity to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:24 PM
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Yeah, your last sentence I agree with. Be up front, don’t waste your time thinking it’ll grow. Granted it might be hard to realize this when you’re a teenager, but if you’re out of high school and doing this you got something wrong with you. It’s more common sense than anything else
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:19 PM
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Well you can see mine as my profile picture. But, yes a kind Chad will always beat out an asshole normie, any day of the week
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:36 AM
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How is that socially feminine?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:43 PM
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I’m honestly tired of the thread every week too tbh. Yes, I agree with the OP, idk if it’s necessarily moral or immoral (it’s a bit far), but it is an insult for sure as a guy. Regardless of intention, that is how I feel as a man. I get what you’re supposedly going for, but it’s not the impact you keep thinking it does. All that happens is: Men: “Yes, it shouldn’t happen and it’s not fair that if she supposedly likes me I gotta wait while Chad didnt.” Women: “Well she only wanted sex from them, …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:56 PM
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That’s not what I’m saying. Being nice is fine, being a doormat is not. And by being a doormat I mean a guy who is ultra agreeable even if he doesn’t want to be, afraid to speak his own mind (until he’s been rejected), and when it’s time puts his foot down. He lets the world walk all over him in the hopes he can please everyone, and have everyone like him but that’s not how you get folks to like you. You’re not what I consider a NiceGuy, just a nice person, which is totally fine
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:28 PM
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Then fair enough, you are consistent
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:50 PM
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Right, but from a man’s perspective this is more of an insult. I get it, women don’t view sex in the same way, but do not pretend that this scenario is a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:01 PM
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Some promiscuous women can actually give good advice to dudes, being they know what actually works on them. A coworker of mine says the best wing man he ever had was a woman believe it or not. But these are few and far between, most women project their desires into the men they want
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:58 PM
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“Bad boys” are usually just dudes who are attractive that aren’t doormats, at least when it comes to the view of NiceGuys as NiceGuys feel being a doormat is the true meaning of being Nice
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:56 PM
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To be fair, I do browse PPD. You should have already realized I’m retarded
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 09:07 PM
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I really don’t believe that will happen. People will still make families, because most people don’t want to die alone, even if that person you die with doesn’t make you the happiest
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:37 PM
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Pretty much, just complaining about something different
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:36 PM
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On a grand scale? Nothing, male sexlessness isn’t going to tear society down, and I say that as a sexually unsuccessful guy. Maybe birth rates will go down, but I doubt women will stop wanting to settle down, even if it’s later. Really though, we should look at why that happens, and no it doesn’t have to do with dating. On personal scales? Probably see more depression in men, lack of fulfillment. Maybe more coping mechanisms will go up such as drugs, but drugs are pretty accessible, even the ill…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:56 PM
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You’re taking PPD too seriously tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:25 AM
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Right, but why not fuck on the first date? Why did those guys get “break the rules”?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:20 AM
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Why does nobody seem to get this when it’s commented or posted about every time? No guy wants to be the “relationship guy”. Sorry, I don’t feel good if you thought I was so great you made me wait, while you gave it up to dudes on the first date or just a tinder hookup. I think women don’t get it, because they don’t care about sex the same way men do, and I think that’s where the disconnect is. To men, sex is validation, if is fulfillment, it has a lot of meaning, even if it’s just personal ego r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:06 AM
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I mean, I also have hobbies and interests that I’m particularly good that I have received compliments on (never my physical looks though). And I have had relationships where my partner was incredibly into me. And no, it doesn’t suffice for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:22 PM
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Validation and ego mostly. However, I understand if you don’t understand, to be fair though you are you and I am me. We have different desires
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:16 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 09:49 PM
1

True, but did you have to wait through multiple dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:14 PM
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Yeah, this is true. It’s delusional, and it’s something I suffered from myself. Really, once I figured out I just wasn’t attractive all those rejections and shit made a lot of sense. She was never going home with me from the start, she was never going to sleep with me on the first date. I was disqualified before even starting. And then I had a huge breakdown over it, I still haven’t recovered mentally.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:11 PM
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Well fine for the guy. Maybe not for the girl, but who cares. And I still have sex with them before we become “official”. But usually the talks are already had and the relationship is more or less on the table, and i tel them that’s what I’m looking for. The sex happens, but it’s in the context of the relationship happening. Usually it’s around date 3 or 4 or we hang out on our third of 4th time, we have sex. Usually if we haven’t by then I just kinda ghost or I’ll say “it’s not working for me a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:03 PM
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I think it’s hard to quantify the number and to why, it depends on other factors that are person to person. Maybe they give up for differing reasons which you have to look st
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 04:39 PM
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True, but you can only be a fish in that pond if you’re into what’s in the water. Like for me, I’m not really into a lot of what the communities are selling. I want the kind of sex most of the population wants when it comes to casual sex, but the issue is I’m not one of the men in terms of looks who can get it, so I’m pretty SOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 03:30 PM
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Yeah. It’s like a rich dude telling a poor one that money isn’t all that great. Id rather find out for myself than take your word for it and you thinking what’s best for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 03:27 PM
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I think you’re right, people just need to come out and say it. But when they do it’s always the same responses from women: “Why do you want it? It won’t give you fulfillment. You should try yo find a relationship”. There was an entire thread on here a few years back (I’ve been here that long, yuck) where someone asked how a “nerd”(really he meant average guy) can go about getting casual sex. And there were the usual TRP responses, some good, some unrealistic. But one said the same one I said, as…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 02:39 PM
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Hit the nail on the head. I want no part of a family I didn’t help create unless I have kids of my own. My buddy at work is 50 and has a 15 year old daughter he’s divorced and is dating someone with a 12 year old son. He’s mixing both families, both of them are parents from a prior relationship. Now take a guy like me, who is 29 with no kids or prior marriage and toss me into something like that, hard pass
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 01:37 PM
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Rejection with successes is fine, because it’s impossible to be attractive or unattractive to everyone. But if you get rejected and continue to find no success, that’s a whole nother story. Eventually you just sort of give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 01:33 PM
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Exactly. The only thing holding incels back from getting sex is their physical appearance. It’s the only thing holding any man back from getting sex. The only thing you can’t change is your height.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 01:26 PM
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That’s still not going to work. Most Incels already feel that way, but their experience shows that the women just don’t want it from them. The only advice to give any incel is Become attractive. Go the fitness route first, but if you’re not getting attention then get surgery. Idk why people get so worked up about surgery, it’s worth every penny especially when you see the folks after double jaw surgery, jaw implants, rhinoplasty, hair transplants, etc. And it’s always the same response from guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 12:59 PM
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r/seduction is the stupidest subreddit ever. The tips and strategies they use don’t work unless you’re actually attractive. One time I saw a dude say “when you’re at a bar, order a drink next to a girl you find cute, and then go sit down and wait for her to come to you”. And his photos on his profile showed he was what most women consider attractive, but he’s talking like it’s all his game. Nah man, it’s not your game, if you spent any time trying the same shit as an average man you’d fail. Whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 12:51 PM
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The women seem fine with me as a partner. I’ll go through years without being in a relationship and getting no hookups in between. I get tired of not getting sex so I find a relationship. It’s not the preferred situation, but it is what it is. And I do have happy relationships with them, and do put my all into being a partner to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 09:42 PM
1

100 a month is such an unbelievable number man. No dude alive is gonna hit that number a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 09:39 PM
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100 a month? Man, how many do you do before finding success?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 09:31 PM
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I mean, I got a high enough number of attempts to say I played the game. When you have no success, yeah you kind of stop trying and realize it’s a losing battle. I would feel different if there was any success, but having absolutely none for casual sex? C’mon And plenty of women sleep with a guy off tinder man, they just only want to do it with specific men. It’s true that that women want to have lots of casual sex, but most have had it one or two times, and it’s always with the same kind of guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 09:19 PM
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I mean, by date 3 that’s kind of when you know you like someone enough for a relationship. It’s actually quite common. They definitely don’t want FWBs, otherwise we’d just be that. They want a relationship with me, and that’s about it. I suppose it is manipulation in a way, but just to re-do the cycle over and over again and have to wait for sex is honestly something I’m not into.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 09:17 PM
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The issue is that when I do mention that when I’m looking for casual sex, they either ghost outright, or say they’re not into it. And if I try to escalate on date 1, they pull away and are not for sure not receptive to it. I’m bold enough, they just don’t want to have casual sex with me
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 09:12 PM
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I mean, it’s not like the sex happens immediately. It happens once being in a relationship is on the table. Someone asked when it happens usually and it’s about the 3rd date. I do stay with these women though, I don’t just ghost them. Realistically if I’ve gone and paid for multiple dates, I actually do at least like you. If I just sort of ghosted them after the deed, it’s a little manipulative and defeats the purpose of why I want casual sex at all in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 08:43 PM
1

Right, but do you hook up with them? Ya know like ONS and FWBs?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 08:22 PM
1

Okay lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 08:22 PM
1

Not really flattered honestly, because all I want is casual sex. Like you said, any guy can find a relationship. Plus it’s not like I’ve got women trying to poach me, usually I have to present myself that I’m looking for one which I don’t do while in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 08:17 PM
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I think it depends. I have seen women throw themselves at Chads, but it’s not that common and only sort of happens at bars or parties and they’re a little fucked up. On r/tinder there are posts showing women throw themselves at Chads, or women being very receptive to stuff most would consider borderline creepy and too forward. But that’s just online. Chads still do need to approach and not be totally autistic. I’ve seen women approach men before, but for the most part women give serious IOIs bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 08:11 PM
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Yup, that’s why I want casual sex, you’re absolutely right. Some men do, but let’s be real most men feel the way I do. Otherwise they’d go to hookers and not bother with trying to get hookups
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 07:57 PM
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Nah, because sex only becomes available once the idea of relationships are on the table, and don’t happen until like date 2 or 3. Casual sex would be like ONS and FWBs. And the only women I’ve been able to fuck are the ones I’ve been in relationships with. I mean I guess I could do what you said, but that’s kind of manipulative and defeats the purpose as to why I want the casual sex in the first place. And it’s kind of manipulative
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 07:52 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 07:50 PM
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As a man, it takes a pretty low amount of time. I wouldn’t say I’m even extremely motivated, but I’m still going into it with the mindset of finding a gf. It never really takes longer than a month or two, and usually it takes so long because I’m picky and really look at the whole package, not necessarily because I was ghosted (although it has happened a couple of times, didn’t make a big deal and moved on). The women I date aren’t below average either, one was even a Stacy, but she was pretty mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 07:39 PM
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Well tbh, women on the spectrum don’t have the same problem as men on the spectrum. Many times, being autistic doesn’t even factor provided she tries with her physical appearance. Both in hookups, and relationships (unless she’s like super off) But, let me ask you, have you ever hooked up casually with a guy who is on the spectrum? Or dated a guy who is on the spectrum?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 04:30 PM
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Yeah but how much on the spectrum are you? Like can you act socially acceptable and not like a “y-you too”er from /fit/? Oh and are you a woman or man?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:56 PM
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I have dated a woman like this. She had one gf before dating me, and I was the first guy she had sex with. She was down at like date 3, and had a high sex drive after. She was 20, I was 24 at the time
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:33 PM
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I guess n count for me is penetrative sex via a new male partner. I don’t really care if she was a gold star lesbian, those don’t really count in my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:27 PM
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You said it, it’s perspective. A man with a high n count doesn’t really care if she has a high n count too. There will always be a man who feels a woman has too high an n count unless that woman is a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:25 PM
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For casual sex the only thing you need is physical attraction and a basic understanding of how to not act like an autist. Despite what many say, an attractive guy can fuck up his chances by his personality, it’s just that being attractive is what is needed to even qualify. For women, they want the hottest guy they can get and is DTF (which let’s face it, most men are), so their casual sex threshold is much higher than what may be for an LTR partner. LTR meanwhile does require attraction, but the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:22 PM
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Way I see it, cuck’s a cuck, no matter who you’re with
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 06:12 PM
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OP, there has always been beautiful, there has always been ugly. There will always be something that makes someone better than those around them and sets them apart. The definition of what makes a person beautiful will change and those that meet the definition would be sought after more
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 04:37 PM
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I think putting an exact amount of days is super autistic. It just happens, go with the flow. Some exes I never loved, others I knew I love them in like a few dates
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 04:36 PM
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Not to mention, many of these countries are very family oriented. It sounds good on paper, but when I say family oriented I mean you essentially belong to the In Laws as well and you have to do everything for them. You don’t just get to take her, they are part of every decision My buddy married a first Gen Vietnamese woman (her parents immigrated from Vietnam), and when I tell you how much his life has to flip upside down when they’re even considering to come you’d be amazed. Plus, in many of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 04:30 PM
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I love how people don’t realize that going overseas as a man for a wife is just being a Betabuxx with a ton more steps
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 02:52 PM
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The issue is that you’ll be going to another country just to bring her back to the US. Like why not just stay there? You’re going through all this trouble to learn a new language, spend the time to find a job overseas and be sponsored to be there, and spend the money to get there. Then you gotta go through all the trouble to get a marriage license, deal with immigration for them because that opens a new bunch of issues, oh and then find another new job when you get back. Like it just seems so si…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 04:17 AM
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I see these posts and I’m often sad that other men have spent so much time hiding their emotions out of fear, or they’re just bad pickers of partners and need to get better. I have been vulnerable with my exes, all of them. I have talked about my emotions, my fears, my “feelings”, and I have never received any sort of treatment as you described. And I’ve had these relationships through HS, college and my 20s. Their attraction to me never stopped. They still took photos with me, posted about me, …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:12 PM
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A person who is full never thinks about food or craves it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:07 PM
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Yeah. “The good men” are just dudes with no other hoes, but the women don’t want those dudes because the men with no other hoes are physically unattractive (yes that includes average looking men)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:05 PM
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I feel like being that it’s basically a meme, I don’t think anyone says it seriously anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:05 PM
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My friends are literally in one now. They met in college, they’ve been together for 10 years and just got married. I knew him before her, but at this point I consider both extremely close friends. He gets no attention from women whatsoever, she’s at least above average. I still see her eyes follow him when he walks around the room, she has such love and desire for him it makes me sick. I have always been able to feel intense love and attraction from my exes, a few of them I met via social media …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:57 AM
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Depends on how they carry the weight honestly and how much more weight we’re talking. If she becomes thick in the right places, cool with me. If not and she loses her shape, then nah I gotta move on
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 10:03 PM
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Depends on their goals. I had a friend whose entire point to going to the gym was to become more attractive and get a gf. He gained a lot of the weight back and he’s been with her for 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 10:02 PM
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Yeah, it’s over. Like any relationship, romantic or platonic, if both parties are not in the same frame of mind toward the relationship, it will not be able to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 10:00 PM
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According to FDS, it’s a man who is independent, desirable by others, but essentially lives for her. Like he’s attractive so other women want him so she can feel good. He has a social life so he can choose her over it. He makes money to spend it on her. Every facet of his life is there for her benefit over his. At least from what I’ve gathered. To me, I think I high value man is a guy who is a caring and respectful person, but is not a doormat. And I guess he’s at least a 6(?) in looks, and make…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 09:59 PM
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Women don’t get stuck in a never ending loop of porn addiction. At some point, the thing you jack off to is too boring, so you gotta up the ante and go for something new. Or they click on a video and “accidentally” find a nee fetish they find hot
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:07 PM
1

This.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:13 AM
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Saw that too. “Contact me on OnlyFans to meet”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:10 AM
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A good point. I feel like every other girl on Twitter that I see retweeted has one now. And they’re trying so hard to fight to get subs, posting the videos of them fucking or doing something, using different fetishes to find the niche they can make money in. Most girls on OF are literally making pennies, most have another job of some kind or they’re in college hoping it helps pay the rent. When a market is this saturated, finding even a way to get into it is impossible. The only way they can suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:06 AM
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Because the young girls aren’t attracted to older Betas either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:56 PM
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It’s a scam to prey on men who are unattractive. You might as well start simping for chicks on OnlyFans, it’s just as useless
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 04:21 PM
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It’s because, again, most women are into the same kind of guy. I understand that looks are “subjective” but only to a point. There are men with certain traits that will appeal to a much higher majority of women, and while that man won’t be attractive to maybe 2 out of 10 women in a given group, he’s still attractive to 8 of them. It’s so binary because if you’re not one of the top 20%, then 80% of the women won’t be interested. Or I think it’s more like 10% and 90% respectively or some shit now.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 03:06 PM
1

Depends, tell me about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:33 PM
1

Alright I didn’t get what you meant. I agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:50 PM
1

Right, but you just said that that relationships are easy if you can get causal sex, but I find relationships without being able to get it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:43 PM
1

I’d like the ability to make that choice for myself
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:42 PM
1

I mean I can’t get casual sex, I wasn’t going for it with just 7+/10s and shit. I would be totally fine with an average girl
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:42 PM
1

I mean, idk why everyone’s gotta sugarcoat it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:41 PM
1

I mean, I can. I can’t get casual sex to save my life, but relationships ain’t that hard
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:18 PM
0

I think your comment comes with good intentions, but sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:17 PM
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For me, it’s because of what it actually means passed the act of sex. If it was just pussy, I could go to a hooker, but it’s more about the validation and admittedly ego that casual sex provides a guy. Any guy like the OP said can find a relationship, but most men can’t get casual sex, and if you can then you indeed are attractive. It’s the only really sure fire way to find out where you stand. I however have not be able to achieve this. So I am not successful
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:07 PM
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Yeah. I can’t get casual sex and I am absolutely miserable. My misery doesn’t interfere with finding relationships, because they’re easy enough to get like any guy, but I would say I’m not fulfilled overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 03:57 PM
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This is only for attractive people for the most part, at least when it comes to the casual sex and flirting. Most men just enter a relationship for the fact that regular sex with someone they’re hopefully attracted to with us on the table
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 03:14 PM
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Success in dating for me would be casual sex, or at least the option of casual sex. I think a low percentage of men are able to achieve this
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 03:12 PM
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I have a 5’4 average friend blah blah blah Lol, sure you do. I’m sociable as well man, if not I wouldn’t have been able to be able to meet and hang with different groups throughout my life. And I ain’t got not girls coming up to me on the weekends. C’mon man
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 10:08 AM
1

Man, this is depressing. I hope shit has improved in your life
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:48 AM
1

Bro, what are you even on about? You do realize that putting in effort and caring about your appearance is what can make someone better looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:44 AM
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I’ve already put the effort into my appearance. Ive been putting in above average work into my skin, hair, and clothing. I had a side gig as a personal shopper, stylist and wardrobe consultant so I had to show I knew what I was doing. I’ve always had good, clear skin with barely any acne, even then I had a skin routine. Regular haircuts every 4 weeks at a salon where I find hair styles that fit my face shape, and clothing that fits my body well, and if it doesn’t I get it tailored I’ve been exer…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:30 AM
1

Shit, I pay like $45 plus tip for my cut every 4 weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 03:09 AM
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I’d rather them just be straight up in that their not feeling it. I also don’t need the “you’re a great guy, but” wall of text. Just say “it’s not working for me” and be done with it. Be an adult and be straight up, idk why that’s hard
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 03:05 AM
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Well yeah, of course it’s because I have no other perspective. It’s fine you feel the way I do, but I couldn’t care less how you feel. It’s like a rich person telling a poor one money is overrated. I’d rather the ability to form my own opinion rather than just take your word for it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:51 AM
1

This is common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 12:28 AM
1

Ah, that also makes some sense
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 09:25 PM
0

Yeah, but thankfully most faces can be improved via surgery
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 06:40 PM
1

Higher than I’d guess, cool. Is it the same for relationships as it is for hookups or are hookups different?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 06:37 PM
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I think they’re more known for having a huge dick, that’s about it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 06:36 PM
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Lmao, I was like “damn, I somehow got insulted yet complimented”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:21 PM
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Appreciate it. Still though, relationships are just not that hard for a guy to get like you said. If you’re boring, have nothing to talk about, have no aspirations or hobbies other than like video games or going to the gym, then yeah if you’re average looking you’re gonna have some issues. It’s why if you’re average you gotta make up for that shit and just live your life. If you live it with intention, you’ll eventually have some cool life experiences to bring up on a date that will make you mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 03:52 PM
2

I mean you can see my profile picture. I don’t even know if I look like any celebs 🤷🏼‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 03:29 PM
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I do think that getting gfs just isn’t that hard. I’m short, literally 5’6, so I’m not a 5’8 guy crying about being short. I look short compared to other dudes, and many dudes on this sub and others say it’s basically the suicide zone if you’re below 5’6. I have one of, if not the biggest, strike against a guy in the Us. And I do just fine in terms of finding relationships, they’ve always been easy to get even when I was in like HS and college. I do have to at least put myself out there, but whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 03:18 PM
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I’m a guy and have heard this from ex gfs, especially the lip thing. I’ve been told I have really nice lips “for a white guy” multiple times. Ex gfs have complemented my nose. Had a couple say I have a nice jawline. Granted, no other women has ever been obsessed with me in this way other than the women I’ve been with and during the time I’ve been their bf they were the only women interested. So I think the “boyfriend goggles” thing is real
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 03:10 PM
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Lmao yeah alcohol doesn’t change anything about whether she wants to fuck. Women will want to hook up with dudes stone cold sober, you just gotta be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 03:04 PM
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Lmao as a guy who started drinking when I was 21 and I’m 29 now, I still do not like the taste. I drink because I want to be drunk, and after a certain point you just don’t taste it anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 03:03 PM
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A handsome man is a “plus” for me but I place importance on intellect, ambition and success far above looks That’s cool, but who are you having casual sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 11:27 AM
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Both could improve their SMV, depending what they get done and how it looks. When it comes to surgery, the less people who can tell you’ve had it done, the better. Plenty of times people will go way overboard and it will result in them looking off no matter what they did. If you want to increase your SMV via surgery, talk to the surgeon about one thing, harmony. You need facial harmony, or body harmony, that’s what people find attractive. You might want a giant chin, jaw, or tits, but if it look…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 11:24 AM
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Honestly, as someone who has only been able to find relationships, I beg to differ.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 11:09 AM
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Yeah. Know a guy who didn’t do this, then got married and spent his early 30s cheating on his wife. They eventually divorced, but his mindset was “I gotta make up for lost time”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:53 AM
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Guess those women he’s fucking can’t sense it huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:51 AM
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Goal has always been to get ONS, FWBs, any version of casual sex. I have failed at that miserably, and I won’t be able to meet that goal. I have asked advice and it’s never worked for me. Is what it is at this point. I’m miserable about it for sure, but idk I guess I’ve accepted it and don’t even hold out for the possibility anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:50 AM
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Same. If casual sex was in the cards for me, I’d just do that and stay out of relationships. My friends and family give me the companionship I need, the only thing they can’t is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:49 AM
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Then you guys should be more clear about this I mean, I am. And I feel like a lot of men on here are as well. The only ones saying 80% of men are Incels are, well, the incels
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 03:43 PM
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Well, yeah no one is denying that men can get dates, and get sex via relationships. I feel like this is said a dozen times a day. What we mean is that the top 20% is getting almost all the casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 03:28 PM
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That’s really nice tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 02:06 AM
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If a guy or girl is hot enough, he/she can be as crazy as they want. Anecdotal so I’m gonna get the “ackshually” from someone, but back in college I used to hang with a group, and one of them was everything a Chad is essentially. Swimmer, 6’3, attractive face, fit, blah blah blah. Anyway, he would get laid weekly by not only the chicks on his team, but everywhere. And the next morning he would slut shame the fuck out of these girls, and say the most mysoginistic things you can think in public wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 02:05 AM
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Jesus thank god. What was with everyone this time?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:52 PM
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As someone who has been doing it for over a decade, yeah I agree. I even go as far as going to the tailor if needed to ensure my clothes actually fit better. Regular haircuts every month at salons, using different kind of hair waxes or clays (Kevin Murphy is my favorite) and Pai Shau for hair health. Skincare routine too, but I’m lucky to naturally just not have acne aside from the occasional pimple that happens once a year if at all. Sunscreen when I go out too, got to make sure your face doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:15 PM
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Past experiences, upbringing, chemical imbalances, autism, just being retarded all around, idk there are plenty of reasons why everyone is so full of hate here
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:22 PM
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Yeah, but she’s over the top with her bluntness, like sometimes I swear she is trolling because she’s trying way too hard
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:20 PM
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King shit
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:40 PM
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Not really. But lookism.net was it for men, or looksmax.net. I will say Lookism was pretty brutal though, if you’re not like perfect looking, they would demolish you in every aspect. Some of it is just BS though, because they would legitimately call Nick Bateman a 5.5/10 due to ratios or whatever. Some serious tism going on there. I think it’s all but gone now, cause I can’t even find it online anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:34 PM
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I’ve never found Lilith to be a bitch, just super blunt. And I like that. Redpillispoison is just trying way too hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:46 AM
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rIP YoUR iNBOx
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:24 AM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:23 AM
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It’s purge week, so the BS is much more prevalent and in your face than usual. Once it’s over it sort of calms down. sort of
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:02 AM
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None, unless I know her new bf personally, and by personally I mean close friend or family. Other than that, I don’t care enough to tell them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:58 AM
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Link to that study?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:06 PM
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You really should have just used average guys. The very rare attractive incel happens once in a blue moon. Most are just straight up plain
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:02 PM
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I didn’t conduct the study myself, I am not OP
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:29 PM
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I mean, it’s still not wrong. Tons more of these experiments have been done and yield the same results
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:19 PM
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Right, but I said the top 20 are getting casual sex, and you agreed it could be true in virtually most settings in the west. A small minority are getting no interaction, very true. Most men are only finding they can have sex via relationships however. So they’re definitely not having casual ones
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:19 PM
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I would say that’s not even that common in low income areas either. But all your comment is saying is that pretty much everywhere else are small minority of males are getting casual sex. So really, for most men it is them being entirely locked out of the casual sex experience
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:16 PM
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Curious what pictures you used for each account.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:04 PM
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True, men are having casual sex in their 20s, but it’s only the top 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:01 PM
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It’s not. It’s a photoshop from lookism, but it’s not too out of the realm of possibility with some jaw implants.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:37 PM
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I never looked him up honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:59 PM
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I feel this OP, but I truly doubt you’re deformed. Now you know what you need to do to get the sex/relationships you want. Most men can get to that point, start working on yourself. If you fail, then I guess you can say “its over”, but what else are you doing except complaining on Reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:11 PM
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Ten years is a long ass time to stick around. But I guess it worked
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:05 PM
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Well, sex is validation for men. We see sex in an entirely different light than women. That’s just how it is. If you find your boyfriend or whatever we’re to get mad about it, you can easily just dump him or he can dump you. No big deal
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 04:42 PM
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Wait, is this guy like a meme or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 04:34 PM
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Waiting for it to pass at this point. We already did the pic thread, everything else has been Incels being mad at women, and women being mad at Incels for being mad, and also just being at them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 04:32 PM
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I think you are missing the point as to why men get mad about it, personally
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 04:16 PM
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Sometimes it is though. Sometimes the chick with the OnlyFans or posting thirst traps on her Instagram doesn’t like being sexualized and complains about it. I have run into several of these kinds of women, more online than IRL, but still they’re definitely the same people sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 02:24 PM
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I mean hey, you’re cool with it so good for you. But women don’t get the same feeling from sex that men do, so it’s hardly equivalent
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 02:23 PM
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If she’s overweight she’s definitely not a Becky
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 02:21 PM
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You don’t have to eat six meals a day, you can easily fit your caloric intake to about 2-3 if you wanted. And besides if they’re small meals, they take maybe 5 minutes for me? You’re just coming up with excuses to not go to the gym and eat right, I swear
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:17 PM
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I also was so confused by the personal time shit, like you’re not allowed to have free time? Cause I’ve plenty been able to get free time without them in my relationships, I don’t know what’s wrong with OP but this isn’t a common occurrence based on mine and my friend’s/family’s experience
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:51 PM
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I think this is a situation where you have a man who is desperate for a relationship and just doesn’t voice his wants. You are allowed to show your wants and communicate them just as much as she does. I have always done that in my relationships, and I have found that I get to have my wants met and I always encourage them to do the same. This is why you need to communicate, and if she’s not willing to communicate or reciprocate, kick her to the curb and find another.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:49 PM
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Idk. Lots of finance bros out there with six packs. I also used to work at a company where engineering was like the biggest deal for our product, and some of the engineers were noticeably fit. They find the time to keep up their physique
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 04:23 AM
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I think giving up without trying is the stupidest thing you can do. At least give it a shot, what else are you doing except bitching on incel forums?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 04:04 AM
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Fair enough. I do think there’s a difference between being a nice dude, and a NiceGuy. Like being nice in my opinion is just… the bare minimum in social situations. It’s not being a doormat, or being a people pleaser, or whatever the NiceGuys assume is being nice. It’s just being decent to people who are decent to you as well, and if they’re being dicks then it’s okay to be dicks to them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 04:02 AM
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Bro, what are your sentences? You sound like a guy who translated Chinese to English on Google Translate
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 03:58 AM
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I was gonna say, it’s not the specific number of inches/centimeters you are, it’s how many most of the men around you are. The reason why 6’0 is a big deal Is because 6’0 looks taller than the average man in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 03:57 AM
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Delusional maybe. But they’re trying at least, and some looksmaxxing actually does work
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 03:52 AM
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Only if they’re attractive enough to get away with the manipulation tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 03:49 AM
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It’s hilarious that they feel this way, when they’ve never even tried looksmaxxing. Like just try, if you fail after trying, then I guess you can feel this way
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 03:47 AM
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I think your post is good intentioned OP, but I doubt it’s gonna get through to anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 02:37 AM
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Yeah, bold to assume they want to actually date them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 02:31 AM
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I feel like that’s not always the case for dudes with high body counts though, there are plenty of good looking dudes who haven’t resorted to manipulation to get laid. If you have to go that far to where you’re preying on drunk women. I feel like the point of the number of lays sort of loses its point. I don’t even think I care about the sex itself, I care entirely about the fact that i could have it and that women do want me for those casual hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:20 AM
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I mean, my self worth is tied to sexual success. My lack of the success (at least what I consider success) is why I hate myself. But I still managed to not get swallowed up by their BS, which I credit to the fact that I have socialized well with different groups over the year and I know I am loved by others
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:42 AM
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Sure. Maybe for next purge
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:56 PM
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This. My friend group has been around my life for 15 years. One of them I’ve been friends with 17 years. More than half my life. If I was hot enough for hookups, I would just have hookups. I get plenty of love and companionship from my friends and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:51 PM
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“Disrespected” one. She can hate my guts all she wants, as long as I get to be in hers 🤷🏼‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:47 PM
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The market determines the demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:45 PM
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It’s sort of a negative feedback loop. Like “wow I feel like shit because of the fact I’m ugly/lonely/short/whatever” and then someone says “yes, you are shit because of reasons above and you will never be loved or desired”. It creates a defeatist mentality because they’re not offering any solution to be better, it’s just “it’s over for you”. I do agree with some things Incels say, but some of it is absolute BS and you learn this when you actually socialize with others. It’s why, even though I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:27 PM
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I’m a dude, so I cant be dating you as I, and most lily you, are not gay I am short, like I am 5’6. I am noticeably short in the US and I have always been able to find relationships even going back to HS and college. I can’t get casual sex, but I have one of the biggest killers ever for the US, but I’m doing okay. And I’m not even that old, I’m 29, social media and tinder were around during my time How much of an effort are you putting into your grooming and styling? Because I have met other men…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:06 PM
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Nope, no disagreements here. Everything he does will be for pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:14 PM
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Pretty much, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:27 PM
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Lol, the OnlyFans ad is priceless
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:50 PM
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That’s actually horrible. But not impossible, I knew a guy who did it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:35 PM
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Where are you from? And I think casual sex is almost impossible if you’re short like me, but relationships aren’t hard to find
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:34 PM
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True, been saying this forever. Average men find relationships all the time, fucking go outside and you’ll see it. Incels are so just so far down the rabbit hole between their mental illness and obsession of their looks, combined that with most just don’t any IRL experience, they truly believe only Chads are getting commitment I do think they’re right that if you’re average, even slightly above average, or short, that you’re going to find an issue slaying (personal experiences of mine prove this…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:32 PM
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Looks like my old weed dealer
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:22 PM
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Well, I originally wanted to get a chin implant. Surgeon shot it down immediately, he said that it’s really not going to give me what I’m looking for and it will look worse due to harmony issues. So he recommended I do some chin and neck lipo, I don’t have a double chin like many folks who get it, but it will help define it more than it already is. It could also improve the appearance of my chin, we’re not adding anything after all, just taking away so to speak. He said we can do fillers, but on…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:17 PM
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Had us in the first half
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:13 PM
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5’6 suicide zone Right there. Honestly, yeah. I’d have already killed myself if it wasn’t for my family and friends who would be devastated by my death.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:10 PM
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But will date shorter ones if they have other good qualities You’re right, but they won’t hook up with them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:06 PM
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You got a hookup with a hot girl and you’re complaining she didn’t stick around to cuddle? Jeez dude, she didn’t want more. Be an adult and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:04 PM
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Cheating multiple times, not doing anything for their birthday (which is a big deal to her) multiple years, flirting with other women in front of them. These women aren’t ugly either by any means, they’re all above average or higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:02 PM
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To improve my looks
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 01:19 PM
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You’ve been going around to everyone’s pics with compliments. I think it’s really sweet honestly. Appreciate it!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:57 AM
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Got the alty thing going on a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:56 AM
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Foot fetishes are just nasty
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:51 AM
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Bloated or not, you can still see the structure underneath. Great hair too, very healthy with a natural shine
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:46 AM
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The fittest person on ppd
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:44 AM
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I like curly hair, suits you well
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:43 AM
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Something like that. Jaw/chin fillers mostly. I recently had my pre-op for chin and neck lipo. I’m not walking around with a double chin and shit, but my surgeon said I’ve got a little fullness around it and it will help define it more than it already is. He said if I didn’t like the way it looked, I could do fillers next, but I may just be happy with it enough. It’s better than what I originally went for, I wanted a chin implant and the doc shot it down almost immediately. I don’t think I’ve he…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 01:13 AM
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And that’s cool! I can find relationships pretty easily though, so it’s not like I’m some incel, but casual sex has just been impossible. I’ve been told by users here and even a few IRL that women just don’t want to hook up with short guys in the US. Even when they’re like 5’0 and shit. And I’m not mad or hate women for that shit, it’s not their fault it’s their preference. But it’s kind of defeating when all you want is causal sex, and you can’t get it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 01:04 AM
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Which implants haha?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 01:02 AM
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Oh yeah, I’m super extroverted. I’ve been able to meet and hang out with different kinds of social groups, and able to build bonds with them. But I have heard, even from men and women on this sub, that women don’t want to hook up with a short dude in the US. And I mean I get it, so I ain’t mad at the women for that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:40 AM
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Well I live in US, I still look shorter being 5’6. But idk, I don’t really think I’m picky, I’m not expecting to take home insta girls and shit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:28 AM
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The Nhad 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:22 AM
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“Yes doctor, can I get an implant to look like this?”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:19 AM
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I’m 5’6 (167cm), and honestly most of the dudes I see women hook up with are always either tall or like at least average height. Appreciate the compliment though, though I’ll admit that photo was taken by a photographer; admittedly it’s one of the “raw” shots (no editing) so I can at least imagine I look something like that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:16 AM
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Don’t worry, I’m well aware. Obviously it’s with Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:56 PM
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Honestly, I’ve sort of become more aware that I’m mot just as average as I thought. The reason I can’t get casual sex is my height, I’m 5’6. So I just look shorter than other dudes in the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:39 PM
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You can just check my profile pic honestly, I got nothing to hide
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:19 PM
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Honestly, I’d hang out with you for sure. Chillest looking member here
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:18 PM
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Most of the bluepillers were either chased out long ago, at this point it’s for the most part pale shade of red pill to deep red pill. There are a few bluepillers, but most don’t give a shit to actually make a post
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:15 PM
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I know I can’t, but the surgery will at least make me feel better
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:14 PM
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Didn’t even know we were purging
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:13 PM
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Yup. Plenty of women love causal sex and just want to have a one night stand
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 04:12 PM
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No?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 04:11 PM
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Most prostitutes do already. It’s like the OnlyFans girls who say that shit to their simps. But, the men can only get that attention if they are paying her. It’s not real, it’s just make believe
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:36 PM
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I don’t think so. If it was really about pussy, most men would already go to prostitutes and not try to get causal sex or care how much sex their gf/wife wants to have or hot they find them. Prostitution misses the validation aspect, paying someone to pretend to be interested while they can’t down the minutes til you’re done is no replacement
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:08 PM
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It is
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:29 AM
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I guess 🤷🏼‍♂️ but when you’re looking for casual sex it feels like a consolation prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 01:00 AM
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Never is 🤷🏼‍♂️ but I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt, she may just be away from Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 12:36 AM
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Nah, nothing too nuts. I did originally go in for a chin implant, but the surgeon was super quick to say that it’s just not worth it as my projection is already at a good spot for my face and going further would make it look worse than better. I guess they can see what your complaints are and he said he didn’t seem to understand. Instead he recommended I just go with chin and neck lipo, it’s not like I have a straight up double chin, just a little fullness that this will fix. He also said that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 11:43 PM
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I mean facially above average, I know my height brings my actual rating down.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 11:37 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 11:34 PM
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Yeah. It’s why I’m getting plastic surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 11:34 PM
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Idk, 2-4 dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 11:04 PM
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They’re all over the place in terms of length, but if I’ve had 7. Shortest is 6 months, longest is about 4 years. They ranged from slight above average to straight up Stacy (she was the 6 months). I’m 29 now, had my first real one when I was 18. I don’t consider them coming from casual dating because we didn’t have sex before we started officially dating, and if we did it was because commitment was more or less established or about to be. Casual dating would be if I could get her for a ONS, FWB,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:49 PM
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Yup, as a 5’6 slightly above average dude (I’m becoming more aware that I’m not just average) I feel this. I will just never be sexy, because I’m not, and I have put tons of time and effort into looksmaxxing aside from surgery (which is in a few weeks as I just had Pre-Op for it) and steroids. I do think though that I have been able to create the arousal though, as every ex I’ve been with has always been very enthusiastic about sex with me, are hornier and initiate sex more than me, tell me how …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:35 PM
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I still think though that getting into the top 20% is pretty difficult. For example, yeah I’m not some 5’1 Guatemalan, but I’m a 5’6 white guy where the average height is 5’9 in the US. I still look shorter than the people around me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:28 PM
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Sure, but dying that unconfident time, did you still receive compliments?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:23 PM
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Yeah. I don’t get insulted for my looks, even down to my height, I’ve never received any negative comment about it. Nothing positive either, but nothing that is meant to belittle me in some way. But attractive people, even if they don’t believe it, still have proof that other people think they attractive. Like even if you truly cannot see it, you’ll receive compliments about your looks. You can even tell them they’re wrong, but you can never say they don’t at least tell you, especially when it’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:21 PM
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I agree a lot of women have a type, but generally speaking it’s mostly the same type of features for 80% of women. Otherwise a guy who is the gigachad wouldn’t be the one getting most fo the causal sex with many different partners
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:19 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:15 PM
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No, it’s not. Are you just mad you can’t be a part of causal dating? Like don’t get me wrong, I’m depressed as hell I can’t be a part of it due to my physical looks (height mostly), but I don’t think it’s degenerative.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:14 PM
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I disagree. I can get relationships, but I can not get casual sex. There absolutely are different markets, and sometimes you can only find yourself in one while being completely banned from the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:12 PM
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Depends how bad we’re talking. Pictures are all angles and lighting. You will look extremely different when going from one lighting to the other, even in the same room to area. I’ve been photographed before and be sent me the “best” shots . I’ll admit, it made a difference (for the better) in how I looked but I can still see myself there. This isn’t that bad, it’s putting in effort on your dating profile. I’d recommend anyone have a photographer take photos for their profile, yes you will have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:08 PM
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Alright, but let me ask you. Who are the guys you’re having casual sex with? FWB, Tinder, ONS, stuff like that? I imagine you’re willing to date them, but not hook up with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 09:44 PM
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Yup, that’s me. Being short is basically the biggest killer for hookups. Just by being short, I’m just straight up banned from play. At some point, you just give up
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 09:27 PM
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I said it somewhere, but confidence is important, but it’s not enough to save you if you don’t hit the looks threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 09:09 PM
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Yeah, it’s why people will tell me sometimes “oh you’re attractive”, I would know if i was actually based on my experiences. I know I’m not ugly, because you also know when you are, but you definitely know when you’re at least average looking/invisible. Attractive men absolutely get complimented IRL. I’ve maybe received a minuscule amount of compliments
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 07:00 PM
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A very good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 06:58 PM
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I’m 5’6, trust me I know what it’s like. Try using any “strategy” you have at my height lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 06:26 PM
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Your last paragraph is right on the money. The “assholes” that are doing well just happen to be hot. Nobody wants to deal with an average looking asshole, they’ll just ignore them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 06:25 PM
15

I said in another comment, but confidence is also important to an extent. Yes, you’re right you definitely need to have some level of confidence in yourself, but without the looks you don’t even qualify. A man can turn himself from an 8 to a 5 with his personality and lack of confidence, there’s no amount of confidence that will turn a 5 into an 8
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 06:05 PM
5

Chin and neck lipo. Yeah it’s a crazy procedure, and if a doctor is good it can be life changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 06:03 PM
10

Shit man, in my 29 years of life I’ve never seen it and I’ve lived in different kinds of places and hung out with different groups of people. The only time a short dude would get laid is if he was super handsome to make up. That’s about it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 06:02 PM
3

You make a point, I’ll admit I’m wrong on that then
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 05:54 PM
13

I think confidence is important too, but not over looks. You do need confidence with your looks, this is very much the truth. But if you don’t have the looks to start with, no amount of confidence will help
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 05:54 PM
13

Sure, but making her laugh won’t make her physically attracted to you. It won’t make your jaw stronger or make you taller. Funny guy can maybe get a relationship at most
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 05:53 PM
8

Nah, someone else and not on this sub. But if you said that shit, you are kidding yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 05:47 PM
5

Yup, fillers are kind of crazy nowadays. You do have to get them redone in the future, but they tend to last longer and longer than ever now. I’m honestly gonna get fillers pretty soon, I’ve got a surgery planned soon so once the healing is done i’ll see how my face looks and make a decision. But my surgeon mentioned it may not be necessary, and if we do they can last up to 2 years
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 05:43 PM
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I feel like you’re right with the second paragraph, but only when it comes to long term relationships, not for casual sex. Men can make up for their looks by being a good partner and increasing their RMV, but none of that shit is gonna make her want to hook up with you. In my experience, she decides if she wants you for causal sex in the first 30 seconds of meeting
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 05:39 PM
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Lol finally someone says it. I had a post once on a different sub where I mentioned how I wanted casual sex and that my looks/height are what hold me back. A guy who is 6 feet and attractive was saying like “nah man, confidence is way more attractive. Looks are overrated”. What a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 05:37 PM
13

FDS women are what happens when you find yourself being the hookup chick but never the relationship chick while not really changing anything about your life, but demanding people change theirs. It’s the same entitlement from incels. I’ve seen a disturbing trend of women lately stating that they are perfect always, it’s just the men was a “Fuckboy” or “toxic” or “gaslighted me” or demonized some other way. Yes, that shit happens, of course it does because some humans are terrible people. But, if …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 04:24 AM
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Well said. Incels/TRP are coming from a place of hurt and rejection. It just takes a shitty night of self hate to find yourself there, realize “hey they’re talking about the same stuff I’m thinking” and getting lost in the community because you’ve already been rejected x number of times and these guys are telling you why. TRP makes some decent advice, but the thing is that the ones who benefit take the few words of wisdom and use it. The ones who stay tend to be those who are what you’re referri…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 04:19 AM
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Depends on the issues they’re having tbh. Even I, in all my desire to be a hot Fuckboy and get casual sex and being depressed in my inability to get it, know that sex won’t fix everything. It’ll fix that part of my life, nothing else really. I’ll admit it’s a pretty big part of it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 04:11 AM
0

If you’re this worried, either find someone who makes similar money to you and/or get a pre-nup. Or alternatively don’t get married? 🤷🏼‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 04:10 AM
0

The bad examples will always stick out, there will be the risk. If it’s not worth the risk to you, don’t go through with it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 03:55 AM
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Cold approach isn’t gonna make a difference either. If you’re average or below average, it don’t matter what types of methods or places you approach, you just will not find that much more success, if you’re looking to get casual sex. Hell, go on r/tinder, tons of Chad dudes get super sexual openers from the women, some will throw out literally “sit on my face” and have her over in a couple hours. Chad is getting laid on tinder just fine, the ones that aren’t are average looking dudes. Tinder mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 12:55 AM
2

I’ve actually been saying this for a while. Yes, there are shitty marriages and some men/women end up with a person they should not have married. There will be divorce rapes, there will be cheating, there will be abuse. But not all are like this, sometimes people do end up happily staying together.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 12:46 AM
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Grew up in a suburb, lived in a college town, then a major city, and now a more small town. Granted I never got casual sex in any of them, but I can at least see that a major city is the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:02 PM
2

But, the question is do you have causal sex or have had it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 05:13 AM
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I think this thread came up a bit ago and the consensus was that it was indeed the same thing, and yes if you demand that you should get the same sex, then she should demand the same
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 05:10 AM
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It’s their own values and what they feel is important. You might not feel it’s important enough or necessary enough so you can wait. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to have sex before marriage as there’s absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to wait. I will admit though that finding a man who wants to wait will be quite difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 05:08 AM
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For men, it’s about ego and validation. Women don’t tend to want casual sex, but they’ll hook up with a guy if they find him hot enough. So,if you’re a guy who can get casual sex, then it makes you one of the hot guys. Like I said in another comment somewhere, every guy wants to be a stud, very few get to be
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 05:06 AM
2

It’s not about the pussy. When it comes to casual sex and hooking up it never is. If it was just pussy, most guys would just go to a prostitute
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:58 AM
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Women do not owe men sex, in the same way men do not owe women a relationship. Look, if you did not get what you were looking for at the end of the date, then just move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:57 AM
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It is. I’ll even admit that. Getting hookups and shit is the most ego boosting and validating thing for most men. Pretty much every guy wants to be a stud at some point in their lives, few get to be. If I was hot enough to be a fuckboy, I’d have been one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:55 AM
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I mean, your options are to go for the niche that’s into it or continue having no success. Women aren’t gonna change their interests for you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:43 PM
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Not really, but alright sorry I didn’t word it correctly to you I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 12:05 AM
1

I actually didn’t call people with BPD crazy. I was saying that there is a huge difference between “crazy” and “BPD”.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:37 PM
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The average man? Well the average number of partner is like 7, so for the most part causal sex is always off the table. The average guy may get a lucky hookup once or twice in his life, more if he really scrapes the bottom of the bottom of the barrel, but for the most part all of his partners will be the relationships he has. Not a problem if you don’t care about that thing, but he’s for sure not hooking up. That out of the way, he’ll have to put in the work for a relationship, but it won’t be t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:11 PM
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None. I maybe met two women ever who have an OnlyFans, no one is out here being like “I HAVE AN OF”, and i know it’s shocking but having one not as widespread as you think. Both are happy with their choices, one is a personal trainer, the other is a dental assistant. Sure, not your high status CEO job I know, but they are pretty happy for the extra income
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:01 PM
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Oh baby
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 04:09 PM
2

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 02:24 PM
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sigh no OP. Some people do form romantic connections with each other still, and while they may not find use in the relationship, they still love and commit to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 12:22 PM
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Lol I’ve been in relationships tons of times, and it doesn’t make women line up for me any more than when I’m single (which is never).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 12:21 PM
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I do. There is no romantic or sexual interest in each other, I see them like I see any male friends. We hang out, we talk about interests, watch a game or two together, text each other about bands/artists we like or whatever, nothing special in our interactions. When there is no attractive, it’s actually quite simple to be friends
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 12:18 PM
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I think there’s a middle ground. She can think you’re an FWB if she finds you sexual enough from the getgo, but she also has to think there’s something holding her back from pursuing the feels for you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 12:15 PM
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Idk man. I think you’re stretching a bit here. While I do believe there definitely is some mental shit going on there for OF workers, actual BPD is very specific and there are some factors that need to be met. Yes, some girls are a bit crazy, but there is a fine line between a moderate amount of crazy and straight up BPD. And when you’ve been with both, you can tell the difference easy. How are you even measuring it? Did you take a poll? But I definitely believe there is some mental stuff, that …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 12:11 PM
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Idk man, 7s still do pretty fine when it comes to casual sex, even with chicks who aren’t overweight. 7 is where attractive starts. You may not be a 7 in actuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 04:35 AM
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That’s gotta be a super ugly face then where you can’t make up with it by being tall
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 02:22 AM
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Seriously, women are interested in intelligent topics, and many are good at them. Know someone in med school, and her class is a majority female. And med school is insanely difficult, you really have to want and be interested in the material to be there
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 01:20 AM
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And be fat, they just can’t be fat. My buddy is 6’2, been friends with him for like 17 years. He however is visibly overweight for that entire time, and he does not get interest from girls except his wife who he just married after 10 years together. Being tall and fat is like winning the lottery but tossing the ticket in the garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 12:42 AM
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Perfect explanation, I don’t know why we’re having a discussion like it’s such a crazy thing to think about here
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 12:37 AM
2

Very true
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 12:31 AM
3

So what is the average man and what is the median man?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:05 AM
2

Like I said to the OP “coulda fooled me”.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 09:00 PM
6

Coulda fooled me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 08:16 PM
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I mean, people will get mad, but that’s kind of the issue men are having. They’re chosen for relationships, but not for casual sex, when most men would want to be chosen for the latter. If a guy wants strictly relationships it isn’t a problem, but most men want causal sex and the thing is, even when it comes to their relationship partners, they’re already written off for the hookup. That’s why relationships just aren’t validating for men, any guy can get one if he’s average looking and not sever…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 07:41 PM
1

Yeah, this. Even FDS doesn’t actually work if the girl isn’t a Becky or higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 07:33 PM
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I definitely believe you on this. Women can want this, if it weren’t true then I wouldn’t have been able to have relationships with women. But, let me ask you something. Who do you hook up with? Yes, you described you like the security and compatible personality, which are all great for relationships. But, would any of these less attractive men you go for be able to take you home from the bar? Would they be able to swipe on tinder and get you to come over for a ONS?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 07:28 PM
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Yeah this post literally reeks of entitlement. Check OP’s post history, she straight up hates dudes that aren’t six feet and attractive. And I don’t mean it in the incel “she doesn’t want to fuck me, so she hates me way”. I mean it’s just seething anger for their existence
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 07:27 PM
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It’s not either of those things. It’s a blow to their ego because it makes them take a moment to realize that they are not indeed one of those physically attractive men. Also, you seem to really hate short dudes. Your entire post history is just bashing men for being unhappy if they happen to be one of the short men, or unattractive men. Your post comes off super entitled too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 07:22 PM
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I mean, there has to be. One of my exes prefers big noses. And by prefers, it’s like a fetish almost
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 12:28 AM
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Damn, you’re right. Need to work on being humble
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 12:25 AM
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For relationships I think that’s true, but the guy I described is getting more casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 12:23 AM
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I think it’s important to understand that it’s impossible for a man to be attractive or unattractive to every heterosexual or bisexual woman in the world. Yes, you are attractive to someone. However, let’s not kid ourselves. There are certain male features that an insanely high majority of women are into (blah blah 80/20) and we’ve said what these features are: Tall, strong jaw, full head of hair, fit. These men will have an enormous pool of women who feel they are their type. Meanwhile, you may…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 10:34 PM
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I do honestly, or projected income if she’s still in grad or med school. I gotta build a life with her and tie my finances to her, she has to pull her own weight in this relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 10:29 PM
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You gotta get some empathy on this thing. Yes, I’m a pretty sexually unsuccessful guy only getting sex via relationships, but I can still put myself in someone’s shoes and realize it’s difficult for them even if I want to be “used for sex” myself How one perceives something as worse is based on their own experiences more than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 10:28 PM
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I wouldn’t alter it because I just do not care. I’m for people doing what they want, and I’m not in the hobby of saying she should, I don’t know, give the average guy a pity hookup once or twice. If she wants to do it, she’s gonna do it. Maybe it causes problems down the road, maybe it doesn’t 🤷🏼‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 10:46 PM
3

I always thought this was obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 10:21 PM
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Well, they did just get married a few months ago after being together for over a decade. He’s a brewer for a small craft brewery, and she’s set to get her PHD and make about 6 figures a year. He has apparently gotten return on his investment and then some
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 12:35 AM
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North America/USA. I don’t even know where to start finding them. It’s not like you can just swing by the Publix and pick them up
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 12:33 AM
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Eh, my friend’s entire reason for lifting weights was to get a gf. He literally said the entire reason he went and was restrictive with his diet was for this. He did lose weight and he did indeed meet that goal. Really depends on the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 12:15 AM
1

I honestly wish I knew how to get steroids. I’d be taking them right now
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 12:14 AM
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Probably comes off as “the cool girl” type, which isn’t a bad thing like FDS may have you believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 12:08 AM
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Eh, it depends what she does with that and how into you she is. Does she turn the guys away when they show up, does she eye fuck them back? If you’re dating a chick who is an objective 7+, this will happen quite frequently because she’s attractive to most men. It’s not her fault, or even their fault. But orbiters I have no fear of, orbiters gonna orbit, if she wanted to fuck them then she would have already.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 12:00 AM
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True, the person is able to start conversations and put themselves out there (has no fear/has confidence) which is really important. But being confident doesn’t make you likable. Knew a guy in college who could go up to anyone at a party, but he never necessarily created any relationships with these people, and they didn’t seem all that into him being there
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 11:56 PM
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I think it can still be about self improvement, because honestly some advice on both is actually useful but the difference is the ones that are there for self improvement go there for the tips (read the side bar/sticky), maybe ask a few questions and then go away when they get their advice. The ones that stay are the ones you’re referring to, and they were most likely going there just to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 11:54 PM
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I mean, a lot of my dating life has been where OLD or social media was kind of prevalent. I met a few gfs literally through social media and I was born in 92. I wouldn’t say I knew a dating world without dating apps, but I can understand how the dynamic has changed entirely, even when you watch the original Sex and the City it’s like a different world. If a woman wanted casual sex she would have to go out for it, ya know do her hair, makeup, put on a dress or something, and find a bar or club, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 11:51 PM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 06:29 PM
1

When I said “most women” I was referring to 80%.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 06:02 PM
1

A. For me, I’m one of the few men who have been putting actual effort into my physical appearance for a long time. Shit is a routine and part of just who I am now, but the fact is I’ve always thrown the effort into me. So, I’m 19 - 21 and a woman rejects me for a hookup or whatever. Fine, I wasn’t attractive to her in some way, maybe I’m not hookup material. Maybe she doesn’t want to date right now in her life. Cool, move on and deal. But now that I’m 29 and have more money or resources, now she…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:34 PM
2

What, you mean having mature conversation? Get out of here with that realistic advice
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 02:48 PM
2

No. Femininity is both looks and actions for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 01:57 PM
1

sigh alright Age - I’m 29 now, so I’ve accepted it’s not gonna happen and my time has passed Looks - I have quite literally been putting above average work for the 11 or so years. I have dressed well in clothes that fit me and are trendy. And I mean I was literally going to a tailor to make sure they did indeed fit. I have never been fat my entire life, and I’ve been in the gym 9 of those years. No real improvement, a little bit of definition but that’s about it. I saw trainers, nutritionists, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 01:55 PM
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Stacy = A woman who is found attractive by virtually most men and can find a relationship easily. Chad = A man who is found attractive by 80% of women and can find casual sex easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 03:26 AM
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Yeah, I got lucky and I dated a Stacy in college while being short and average looking (okay maybe slightly above). I met her through a mutual friend at a birthday meet up and she asked me for my number. But there’s a few things to note about the relationship: -She admitted to me that what she finds attractive is what most women don’t find attractive and her friends have always been like “why are you dating that guy” with every single bf she ever had. Talk about back handed compliments -She was …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 08:14 PM
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Right, but what kind of women would these be? In my experience the late 20s/early 30s people like that end up being the burnouts and/or drug addicts. But fuck it, if they’re happy then good on em
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 08:05 PM
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Eh, trust me self improvement has been most of my life. I did actually put in the work, but never got the results I desired. When you put that much work into it, and you still didn’t get what you want, you have to realize you lost the game from the start
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 07:57 PM
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Oh yeah. Ain’t no women in their late 20s looking for that goth guy who never grew out of his phase
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 07:20 PM
2

This is the truth. Your average looking guy will always be feeling like there’s just something holding him back from the Instagram hotties. Like he wants to be the fuckboy, but there’s just something missing. This is my situation, but I know what’s missing. So maybe it’s just acceptance at this point for me
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 06:37 PM
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Yeah, if you’re ugly, and I mean general population finds you ugly not just average/plain you gotta lower your standards How low will depend on a few things, and yes if you’re rich and a man you can get hot women, but they will be there for your income entirely and you’ll have a glorified prostitute that may be able to take half your shit some day. If you want genuine connection, expect that person to be ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 06:36 PM
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What are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 09:45 PM
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Yeah, most LTRs and marriages will produce offspring in some way which is how those unattractive men keep coming out
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 09:44 PM
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In their lifetime is a bit much, but even so I’m a situation where a small pool of women find me attractive. I’m short and average looking, so this is not a shock or anything. Still, my exes did have options, but they found me attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 09:39 PM
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Yeah, other women would find him attractive. Just not that many women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 09:36 PM
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I guess I was assuming this would all happen in the beginning. Either way, you can leave any relationship anytime you want. Not everyone wants to do the same act very single night, then it would get stale. There is no wrong reason to break up with someone, and you seem to be under this impression I have to stay with them. If sex is a big enough reason for me to leave, so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 09:36 PM
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So you’re saying that you find what most women find attractive. I never said there aren’t men that most women find attractive, of course there are. You’d have to be an idiot to not know that. The scenario is that you find a guy attractive most women don’t. I had an ex that more or less was attractive to just about everyone, but she was super attracted to me and I’m for sure not attractive to most women. She admitted as well that the guys she finds attractive are men that most women don’t find at…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 09:26 PM
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Because it’s something I want to do in bed? It’s an act that would make me satisfied sexually. What difference does it make why?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 09:20 PM
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From my perspective I don’t really care that she did it with those men, but rather she isn’t doing it with me. Call me selfish, but I do also care about my happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 09:18 PM
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Why does everyone have to be attracted to him for you to be attracted to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 09:16 PM
2

Maybe you happen to be one of the small pool of women particularly attracted to him. You can’t be ugly to every women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 09:07 PM
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Why is it pathetic? If you’re not happy or fulfilled in a relationship, that’s reason enough to not be in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 09:05 PM
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I think we need to see the situation as a whole, which all comes down to why. Why does she not want to do it anymore, I get that she doesn’t, but why? Fact is, my pleasure is also important and I am not forcing her, but when it comes to sex I at least have a right to know why especially in a relationship. If I don’t like the answer, and there is no compromise, then we’re not a good match and I move onto someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 09:03 PM
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Yup, learned this in college. If you’re interested then don’t beat around bush.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 03:38 AM
1

No shit. Any first date I’ve had doesn’t cost me more than $15 for her. I don’t even know you, why would I spent tons of money
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 03:35 AM
3

Yup. What’s shocking to me is how far people go with plastic surgery, and how bad some of it looks. The results should be subtle and create facial harmony. This is so important, I know you want that giant Giga Chad Thundercock jaw, but if the rest of your face doesn’t match it then it’ll look like surgery. That’s why you need to see a surgeon who understands facial aesthetics. I saw my surgeon about getting a chin implant, he advised immediately against it saying that because where my chin lies,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 10:07 PM
1

I’ve always wondered this, when you say little experience, what exactly is “little experience”?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 07:51 PM
1

This is extremely valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 07:49 PM
6

The TRP argument of “its different for guys” doesn’t work, because you’re right it’s so hypocritical. Most players, or high n count men end up with high n count women though. The betabuxx situation really isn’t that common as we are led to believe
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:34 PM
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The absolute truth. Being average looking I can still find relationships pretty easily, but I have worse looking friends who basically can’t get a gf to save their lives. Meanwhile, the lowest woman can find casual sex. It won’t be with Chad, and that whole “even fatties get Chad” BS has to stop. But they can go on a dating app for the most part, find a dude, and fuck in 24 hours
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:29 PM
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For real. I don’t understand why we still believe we should be following the same ideals and checkpoints as the boomers or Gen Xers. We are in a world that’s extremely foreign to them that if they were placed into a 20 something body and starting from scratch but the same mind, they’d have no idea how to navigate
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 09:56 PM
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Yup, anyone can be a simp. Though at least TRP tries to deter it in some way
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 04:20 PM
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If this is a sure fire way for him to meet women and be successful, then fuck it have at it. My policy on when someone says a strategy works for them, then that’s good enough for me and I won’t deter it provided it’s not using the Bill Cosby method or doing anything too bad to hurt the women. But if it’s not like a slam dunk, then no I wouldn’t recommend it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 04:19 PM
1

I think being bald depends on the rest of the package and how attractive you’re viewed. If you still are masculine looking, being bald won’t be a total killer for you. I do however think it’s fair to say that most women, and by that a large majority, prefer a man who has hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 04:17 PM
2

Yeah. I think I’ve seen unattractive women take more chances and try talking to dudes at a bar. They realize they have to be upfront or they’ll be invisible
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 04:15 PM
7

Its because one validates men, the other does not
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:07 PM
1

Girls love artsy HOT guys
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:02 PM
1

First if all women are people, not fish It’s an analogy, calm down. And it actually is good advice, most women will say one thing and go for something completely different
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:57 PM
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A couple comments call her out and basically say “well are you or your friend dating a guy like that?” and they’re right
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 01:00 AM
1

Yup. If she doesn’t have that attraction to you, then you’re in the friendzone for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 11:58 PM
1

I was gonna say, men have all to gain from casual sex. Even if she doesn’t want to fuck you again, you ass another notch to your bedpost and raise your n count. Sounds like an absolute win for your ego
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 11:57 PM
1

Mostly autistic people like TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 11:55 PM
1

I’m 5’6, with pretty average facial features overall. So I’d probably say my looksmatch, if we’re going by a comparable women in physical attraction, is a woman who is 200lbs, a similar height, and maybe wears makeup. Essentially a woman that is ignored by most men and written off from a look alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 11:54 PM
1

Then that is fine. As long as there isn’t a difference in how quickly you’d have sex with your casual partners vs your husband partners. And as I said it’s more nuanced than “she didn’t let you fuck on date 1? You’re a betabuxx bro”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 07:09 PM
1

Sure, but all the men you and your friends think are “husband material”, did you hook up with them or would they be the guys you’d have casual sex with? Really that’s what most men care about, if they’re hot enough to get a hookup with someone they think is hot. Even if they don’t want to do the action itself, knowing they had the option and it’s their choice they didn’t is the validating part
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 06:41 PM
1

Doesn’t matter if they should or shouldn’t, because it happens anyway. Until most men have more options than women, it will always be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 05:58 PM
1

It’s perceived as negative because for men that want casual sex, you’re essentially saying “you need commitment”. However it’s a very nuanced thing that you have to take a lot into account before you start assuming “I’m a betabuxx” or “she was giving it to Chad for free”. Even then there isn’t a clear cut way to determine any of that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 05:57 PM
3

Yeah. If you’re already talking commitment on date 1, 2, or 3 it says you’re either way too into them in a crazy way, or you have literally no options whatsoever and you’re trying to lock it down while you can
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 05:54 PM
1

If he’s attractive he gets a lot. If he’s average then barely any, and if it is it’s maybe 1 Becky is a very very very blue moon and mostly fat chicks
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 03:00 PM
15

Blue pill is just not knowing what the redpill is
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 02:56 PM
3

Well, yes and no. I do think if you’re a person who wants to have many sexual partners or casual sex, then honestly you want to be the kind that is attractive to most or at least a large pool of women. Niches are cool, but the pool in that niche that would be interested in you for casual sex could and usually is very small. So small, you might not ever meet a woman interested in you for casual sex. For example, not really any niche where being short and average looking (like myself) that is inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 04:59 PM
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I did mention that status has a part in it if you’re lack the raw physical traits I mentioned. But I don’t think a huge majority of women are necessarily obsessed with him. If he wasn’t doing what he does, he’d most likely be ignored by most woman
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 03:52 PM
1

I agree with this, though I was part of the party/drug/drinking and I still found myself not able to get laid. You can’t fix being short and average
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 01:08 PM
2

I think it’s just the default. No, you don’t have to get a body like Athlean-X, but getting to a decent weight with some definition is sort of default.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 01:06 PM
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This. One of the members of BTS has a natural shoulder to waist ratio that most men can’t get after years bulking and cutting. Another one has the literal golden ratio for a male face. Those raw physical traits will always be attractive. Only one is “short”, and just barely at about 5’8, so most don’t give a shit Anecdotal, but take it for what it is. I’m a pretty social guy so ive found myself in different groups over the years. Emo/goths, indie, basic people, whatever, and the dudes getting la…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 01:04 PM
1

I somewhat agree, but I think a woman can become a butter face if she puts in the effort to make her body attractive at the gym. Nowadays the body goals aren’t just having big tits (which require surgery), it’s about your thighs and ass which you can build. If she becomes the general view of attractiveness body wise she can still find a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 01:40 PM
1

Well I guess men would feel more confident and happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 09:13 AM
1

Hard to say and give a specific number, but I’d say generally it could take about 6 months of “passive trying”, and 2-3 months of “active trying” depending if you’re on the higher or lower end of average. So when it comes to passive, I mean you more or less go with the flow but still try if you see a girl catch your eye. You shoot your shot when you feel it’s worth it, but generally you’re there to have fun and chill with friends. Maybe you meet someone at a gathering where friend groups combine…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 04:39 PM
3

Well the women would still need to make the choice to take the pill and change their behavior. I don’t think you realize most women won’t want to do this
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 01:41 PM
3

Okay, but again the women that actually would be interested in trading money for sex wouldn’t need the pill to begin with. Because they can just pretend to be interested and fake orgasms for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 05:07 AM
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Right, but here’s the thing. The women that would be interested in that subsidy wouldn’t need that pill. Women pretend to want to fuck guys all the time, they’re called prostitutes. They don’t need a pill to do this already, you’re essentially creating gov’t approved and funded prostitution. Why would the government even subsidize this? Men’s inability to get laid isn’t a public issue, I sure as hell don’t want my tax dollars going to this shit. And I’m no Chad getting laid every weekend. All th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 04:54 AM
3

Okay, but why would they take the pill at all? You’re saying they’d take it if they can’t find the right guy. But if they can’t to start, why would they make themselves hornier?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 04:39 AM
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Agreed. And no friend should encourage someone to be treated this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 02:37 AM
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No. Not only is this shit weird, but women’s libido isn’t tied to what they find attractive. If her libido increases, she’ll still have a larger pool because men just find more women attractive than the latter. Plenty of women have low libido until they find the right guy who checks all or a large majority of her physical looks boxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 02:35 AM
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Depends on the person as always. If you want love, then it’s the greatest indescribable feeling there is. If you don’t want it or apathetic, it can seem like a waste of effort for little gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:35 PM
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Not much honestly, if we’re talking casual sex (hookups/FWBs). The average men are already in the “no” pile as are the ugly guys. Their RMV is much higher than the ugly guys though
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:33 PM
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Intimacy, human connection, companionship, maybe resources (if that’s their game), idk not everything is a formulated autistic interaction
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:31 PM
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Lol yeah dudes be full of it. At least I’m realistic on where I stand. I know I’m not some Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 03:09 PM
1

Apathy. Do what you want, but don’t expect me to pay for it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 06:10 PM
1

That’s such a small group though. Attractive men usually have had a positive feedback loop their whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 06:17 PM
1

One reply and it’s everyone now?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 06:16 PM
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If I had sex with a girl, and she then tells me she wants to wait a bit longer before having sex again, I’ll just ghost her and add the woman to my bed post. Move on, I got no time for that and I still got what I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 09:25 AM
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Why are you so mad lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 09:20 AM
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Nobody here thinks that women have the same universal type, as in all 3.5 billion are after one kinda guy. But there are features that most women want, and it’s about being that guy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 09:19 AM
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I honestly think this is just delusion peaking through. Especially when you’re like me and have seen it happens tons of times to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 09:18 AM
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True, but if you’re a man who is approached by women in bars, clubs or parties, or at least you’re given heavy instances of IOIs, it’s basically the determining factor as a man that you are attractive. It’s not really unreasonable to view it this way either. You even said it yourself, the attractive guy in your class got the attention
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 09:16 AM
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Maybe you’re just not that attractive then…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 01:19 AM
3

If most women are into you, then you do have the traits of what women generally find attractive. You’re a situation of not seeing it yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 01:11 AM
3

Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 12:43 AM
3

Validation mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 12:42 AM
4

🤷🏼‍♂️ if I was attractive I’d be more successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 12:18 AM
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The six foot PUAs are just trying to sell their bullshit classes. As for the guy with his high school sweetheart, he doesn’t stray because he thinks he can’t, it’s that he doesn’t want to. He’s still well aware women find him hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 11:55 PM
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Yup. Hair stylist at my salon told a story how she saw a guy on the road, saw he had a bumper sticker on his car and through that looked him up by going through the team rosters of that high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 11:53 PM
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Okay, but IOIs is what I was talking about as well. The, the looks, the body language, the doing anything to find a reason to be around the guys. Of course it won’t always be “let’s fuck right now”, anyone who has been around people would know that. But the subtle signs she’s flirting, are actually pretty in your face especially if you’re a guy that doesn’t get that attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 11:52 PM
2

Yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 11:40 PM
2

As in like the number of sexual partners
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 11:12 PM
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Feel this. It’s worse when you toss all that effort and you’re still not getting the numbers you want. I used to be narcissistic and delusional like you said in your post. I then learned where I truly stood, and I’ve never been the same and not for the better in any way
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 09:31 PM
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Something, something, memes write themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 09:27 PM
19

Maybe not a ton of girls always on your dick, but if you’re attractive you’ll find yourself having these interactions semi frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 09:10 PM
10

Who said I didn’t think that? My comment was a general view. You can’t deny that what I said is what generally happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 08:59 PM
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This is the truth. No she’s not nervous to come up to you, no she’s not playing hard to get. If she wants you, you’ll be well aware. No attractive man is oblivious to this fact either. Even if they don’t see why the women find them attractive they will have tangible proof that women do. I’ve seen it way too many times. Men who are what the general female population find attractive get tons of similar attention as what your frat brother was getting. Meanwhile I’ve never gotten that, my entire lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 08:18 PM
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Here’s the thing, no matter how you look you will not be unattractive or attractive to everybody. The guy with a big nose will n someone who is attracted to him. The acne scars guy will find someone who is attracted to him. The short guy will find someone, the weak chinned guy will find someone, the balding guy will. But, the men I described will have a small pool of women attracted to them as opposed to a guy without those flaws. By all means, you will find someone who finds you attractive, fla…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 06:33 PM
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It depends on a few things. What does the man exactly want? Does he want a ONS, a FWB, a relationship, a simp relationship? A relationship he could probably come out and be uprfront with and get it, but for ONS or any other casual sex he’s not going to be able to. Then think of the women in the situation? How attractive is she? How many options does she have? Is he the best option she has? It makes a huge difference when it comes to how she takes being upfront.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 05:39 PM
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Yeah. Or just treat everyone the same way. Makes it so much easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 08:58 AM
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Yeah I knew a guy who absolutely hated himself but was always able to find hookups and even relationships. He was hot so this wasn’t surprising of course. That being said if you depend on your SO to make you happy, you’re gonna find that these relationships won’t last and your partner will become tired of always being your rock. This is for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 06:30 PM
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It is. But sadly it’s not my problem. If I can sit here and say that women have to deal with the bad choices they make related to sex and relationships, then it would be hypocritical to not say the same about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 10:17 PM
1

Fact is, the men are either going to be okay with it or they’re not. Trying to think of ways to make men who don’t want to wait decide they want to wait feels so manipulative. Either sleep with them or don’t, and deal with what happens next
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 04:42 PM
1

I think you really hit the nail here. This post screams “I hate women” because he’s basically saying what many women go through is “nothing to get worked up about”. It’s always easy to feel like you know what it’s like, what you would do, how you would react when you’ve never been in that situation. I might see where OP came from if it was like a cat call, a grope of her boob or ass, or something else. It’s terrible, but not worth totally losing a future over. But this y that situation at all. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 10:11 PM
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Yup. As a guy who teaches and help men shop and dress there’s been a distinct shift in how that’s viewed. Men maybe a decade ago I would never see looking for my services are paying for the assistance., There are more men in the gym than ever, and they’re not just hanging out at the benches anymore. They’re doing HIIT, they’re doing cardio, they’re doing more to cut.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 08:20 PM
1

I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:01 PM
2

Some do, because they think they’ll live like kings in the past and won’t have to deal with the problems they do now. The biggest reason I’ve seen is that the men who want to do this only so their wife will be “loyal, and subservient to me”. Here’s the thing, affairs happened all the time in 50s, women cheated on their husbands with the milkman, the mailman, other men that would come around and do other tasks. It’s where the whole “how tall was the milkman” joke came about when a son was much ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 10:12 AM
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Lol it’s why I just assume a woman’s being nice now. I know she ain’t interested, I’m not exactly what women find attractive (short, maybe slightly above average).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 02:12 AM
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Most of BTS ain’t even short. They’re average height to tall for the west, one member is even 6’1 or something
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 02:07 AM
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Why would it exactly be different? Using dating apps doesn’t change what you find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 02:06 AM
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Are you telling me you’ve never met a guy or girl who tends to have more of the opposite sex interested in them than others? Fact is there are certain features that the general population finds attractive, and the more of them you have the more people find you attractive. What is defined as Chad (strong jaw, tall) may not get every woman, but he’ll attract most of them and get most for casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 02:04 AM
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Environment for sure does. For example, people get obsessed about the number of a person’s height, without looking around them. A 5’6 guy is only short because he looks short compared to everyone around him. If he’s around other 5’6 guys he’s average height, and if he’s in a room with 5’3 guys he’s tall. It’s not the height that matters, it’s the height of all the other men in the room and that’s what women care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 04:17 PM
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Yeah, almost every man in the world wants to have casual sex with at least one Stacy they can add to their bedpost. Most don’t get that though, and are totally fine with fucking Beckies and Janes provided theres at least a base level of attractiveness. Depending on the looks of the guy (and his friend group) he’ll brag about Becky, and if he’s lower on the looks Jane. But let’s face it, a guy will fuck the chubber at the end of the night provided nobody finds out about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 04:15 PM
1

The very hot man won’t want to spend more than a few hours and the man is good at hiding how he feels
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 04:12 PM
3

The being the rock thing is super true, it’s so exhausting and is so suffocating. They want you to be the same way in that they are your everything, and if you do have other stuff going on they see it as a threat because while you have something if it ends, they’ll have nothing. It’s so low value, but even outside of that it’s just sad and they need to see a professional to work those issues out before getting into a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 04:10 PM
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For me: I find her attractive. Has her own careers and makes her own money Believes in equality in stuff like dates and gifts. She doesn’t have to pay every time, but she should expect me to pay every time either. is relatively independent with her own life, friends, and hobbies. Doesn’t expect me to be her rock 100% of the time. I was that, and trust me when I tell you it’s the most exhausting thing ever,
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 04:08 PM
1

I’ve seen some on Twitter and 4chan. Some other subs have been laughing about it too. It’s pretty entertaining
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 05:22 PM
1

Yeah. I already see women on Twitter selling their stuff via Dropbox and cashapp, the same exact content but OF doesn’t take a piece. More will just do that, or like you said another platform will capitalize on it and welcome them in. The memes are funny about it though
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 03:21 PM
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For LTRs I agree with you, but for casual sex it is all about looks. And that’s kind of what most people here care about
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:33 PM
1

It’s not a shameful practice if you succeed at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:31 PM
2

Dave Chapelle said that a guy would be happy living in a box if he was getting consistent pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:37 PM
0

Yeah. I’m 28, and honestly throughout my 20s most people my age aren’t even obese. And it’s not like I’m in some European country where portions are much smaller, I’m in the US. Obviously if we talk people in their 30s and 40s, yeah there are a lot of fatter people. But that shit happens when your metabolism slows down and you keep your maintenance at the same level and don’t raise it up at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:20 PM
1

I’ll admit it’s an important stepping stone in the human experience, but it’s not like the end all be all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:09 PM
3

Yup. Fact is the relationship is maybe a little different than being single to them. They get their sex, their comfort, whatever, but they’ll still spend their time fantasizing about being with other men/women and will usually leave their SO if something even slightly better comes along. Had a friend who was dating someone, she was a plain girl, but she had a great personality and she loved him completely. They were together for like 2 years. He was a plain looking dude as well, decently cool in…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:45 PM
1

Depends what you’re trying to get out of it. If you’re trying to get just have a coping mechanism and choosing to not play a game rigged against you, and choosing to not play it or even think about it gives you some peace, then it does. If you’re choosing it as a way to maybe get a woman in the future (as a sort of reverse psychology or sour grapes thing) and spend all your time obsessed and women bash, then no it doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:39 PM
1

It’s when you promise something that you don’t intend to even kind of follow through with. Look, we’re human and sometimes we don’t live up to expectations or our word. But, when you make a promise with absolutely no intention of doing it (i.e. yeah totally into a relationship baby, let’s fuck and I’ll call you tomorrow) then it’s taking advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:34 PM
1

Yeah. I doubt average looking John is out here slaying like that. If he was, we’d see the number be higher for women overall
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:31 PM
1

Truth. I have made this mistake, a couple more times than I should. At least I can tell the red flags now
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:30 PM
1

Yeah it’s just a small group that cares this much, and it’s usually the less attractive percentage. Especially in guys, it’s the “you have all the money in the world, why are you out here driving a 2001 Toyota Camry” mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:28 PM
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Because I’ve been running into problems gaining muscle. And I still want to, but I have no idea how to get them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 10:12 AM
1

Yeah, i have to raise my eyebrows at that. After hearing that I’d have to ask why.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 09:10 AM
1

Holy shit, that is the worst frame of all time
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 05:45 PM
1

I mean you literally just said that they have to become attractive to get casual sex, and no one here is denying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 12:48 PM
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No disagreements, but most men can’t go through the wild phase because they aren’t able to have the casual sex. You’re acting like men aren’t actively trying to have their wild phase in their 20s, in reality only the Chads are able to have them. You don’t think I wanted one? I absolutely did, but I was locked out of that strictly on looks
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 08:07 PM
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Yeah really depends what you’re after. Me I could get dates but not casual sex. And that’s totally down to my SMV
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 07:47 PM
3

I mean, the women only want their money. Sounds more like a glorified prostitute
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 01:27 AM
8

Well, I’m sure a guy who makes 30,000 a year might want to buy a BMW and his standard of car might be only a BMW. However, he doesn’t have the ability to get a BMW, so he’ll be walking to the store. Our standards can only be as good as what we can afford
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 01:47 PM
5

Age is part of it, many millennial women loved pretty boys too when they were younger. However, the e-boys you’re talking about have masculine physical traits. They are tall, and usually have masculine facial features, the style is a little more feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 11:06 AM
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They hate being approached by average looking men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 11:02 AM
2

Probably to attract specific men (I.e. Chads)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 10:59 AM
21

Bruh, the autism is so strong in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 07:05 PM
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Yeah, only with men who are rich and can find their entire lives
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 07:02 PM
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Well yeah, they want money
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 06:13 PM
1

Eh, a slightly above average dude can get 1 like. I used to get one like a day and I’ve been rated as plain on Lookism
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 10:33 AM
4

Go to therapy and work through the issues, if you can. It’ll save you a lot more issues later on
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 04:29 PM
6

You can tell easily by seeing how interested she is in what you yourself are interested. I may have had some different interests than my current and past gfs, but when it came time to talk about it they were all ears (even if they didn’t personally care for it themselves). They ask follow up questions, they actively listen, they’re curious, they are so happy to hear about something that makes you happy. You can tell the difference almost immediately, same goes for men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 03:52 PM
6

Definitely
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 03:35 PM
15

Yeah. How much can you brag to your friends about who you’re fucking? When a guy goes out to the bar, has a tough night and fucks a landwhale he doesn’t brag about it to his friends. When he fucks a Becky or above, he won’t shut up about it and if he’s got pics of her will show it off. And then all the guys will be like that rap battle video cheering and yelling.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 02:59 PM
7

Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 02:56 PM
22

True. But for every guy who’s just given up using the dating apps, there are 4 guys who make an account expecting success.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 11:19 AM
9

Is he hot? If he’s hot, it won’t matter. If he’s like slightly above average to below it will matter. Just like literally everything else when it comes to casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 11:16 AM
6

Pretty much this. Halo effect is super duper real
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 11:15 AM
1

I could be biased as a man, but if my money is literally going to another person for an intended purpose, I want to know that the intended purpose is being fulfilled. I feel like childcare should be treated like a bank account. I put money into it like a debit card, and the mother then uses it. She has access to it, I have access to it. I may not be able to pull my funds necessarily, but I will be able to see exactly what it’s spent on and at any time I could get confirmation on what was sent
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 04:29 PM
2

This.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 04:25 PM
1

I mean, it’ll for sure not be a problem for that guy’s self esteem. It’s literal proof that he’s attractive and many women find him attractive enough for casual sex. I think the happy medium of sex partners for a man is like 15. I feel like that’s enough to say women not only find you attractive, but you are pretty selective on who your sex partners are. Plus you could easily have had a few gfs sprinkled in there
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 04:23 PM
1

Well, I can’t get casual sex, so just going for LTRs
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 04:20 PM
1

Like I said, it’s most, not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 12:48 AM
1

Well, are you his type or what he would consider attractive? Was he satisfied in bed? If using porn was the better option, he may have just not been that attracted to you or the sex wasn’t that great. Not saying it’s your fault for this either
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:55 AM
2

Porn is a symptom, it’s how the virgin/sexless men cope with the fact they aren’t able to get sex. I imagine if it became magically easier for men to get laid, then we’d see the porn numbers die down.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:53 AM
4

How?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 12:50 AM
3

Only like a few incels believe this. Like the other guy said, show me evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:19 PM
14

Yup. There’s a reason why the pedo archetype isn’t a Chad looking dude, it’s always a dude who is a combination of fat, ugly, and balding
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:38 PM
10

My friend and his fiancé are an N=1 and they are extremely happy. They’ve been together for like 9 years too, when you ask him how he feels he could not even care for another woman. They have an incredibly healthy sex life, both are extremely satisfied. He has no desire for casual hookups or even additional partners. She doesn’t either, seriously if you see them together her eyes will still follow him around the room. Warms my heart, very happy for them. Technically my gf has an N=1, but it does…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:10 PM
6

Fucking exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:05 PM
9

Seriously. It’s an offshoot of angry women who got pumped and dumped a few too many times and are lashing out at Chads for not wanting to wife them up. It’s barely a speck on society
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:05 PM
1

Oh, then yeah. If it’s the goal I want, then yeah of course I’m envious of those men. And thinking I should be having would imply entitlement. I’m not entitled to it, but do I desire it? Of course I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:26 PM
2

5/10 Plain face according to lookism and just regular interactions I have normally. 5’6, which is a killer but if I was handsome I imagine I would get the casual sex I’m looking for. I don’t even know who I look like. Celebs aren’t plain looking like me. Just check my photo for my profile. It’s a good photo mind you, so it’s probably not even a good representation of me Yes, every man who looks like me struggles
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 11:39 AM
7

I just don’t want to spend money or resources into a kid who isn’t mine. I don’t hate single mothers, just don’t want to date
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 11:12 AM
1

Outside of a relationship, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 10:57 AM
1

Personal jealousy toward who? Not even looking for kinky nightclub sex, barely anyone gets that. I just want hookups, ya know go on tinder a message a girl to come over. Or go to a bar, hit on a girl, go home with her. Or have FWBs. Or just have some sort of casual sex that isn’t tied to a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 10:43 AM
1

Yes, the only women ever interested in me is whatever GF I am with. No other woman gives me attention, tries to hook up with me, gives me IOIs, etc And yes, it’s about getting lots of partners and casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 02:16 AM
3

If they’re handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 02:15 AM
2

I mean, I go to the gym already. My comment wasn’t saying don’t even try going to the gym. It just means it ain’t gonna do anything, because a short muscular guy, is still just a short guy. Though it’s not as easy to get ripped as you say, I’ve been doing it for years and seeing little fruits of my labor. Although it does keep me from getting fat, which is a plus I guess. Genetics play a big role in it too, if I want to be ripped I’m just gonna have to start taking PEDs at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:57 AM
2

Great write up. This is how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:33 AM
2

I mean, as long as I’m physically attracted to her then yes I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:32 AM
4

True, but tell me, what workout plan is gonna make me taller than 5’6?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:31 AM
4

I think when it comes to physical appearance, men care. Most men do not want a woman who doesn’t dress or look feminine. Yes, I know your weird non binary friend with the shaved head may have a bf. I doubt though she gets interest from most men in a given room. Everything else can go either way for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:21 AM
1

I mean, duh. We know the women who we are in relationships think we’re attractive. My gf thinks I’m attractive based on just how she is with me, same thing with my exes. Here’s the thing though, they’re the only women who ever find me attractive at the time. Like seriously, no other women ever hits on me, DMs me, tries to hook up with me, no indicators of interests, nothing while I’m in a relationship. I always laugh when men say “a relationship makes you hotter” because the amount of interest I…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:18 AM
2

I mean, you’re not wrong. It only helps the men who themselves are virgins feel better
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:03 AM
2

Depends on the person and what they specifically value. Truth be told, if a person is asexual or low libido, going without it really worn affect that person. Now if you have a person who wants casual sex, wants lots of partners, looks at it as a source of validation then not having sex to the level of the amount they desire would be bad for their well being. You gotta take it person bu person, culture by culture, tradition by tradition, etc by etc. Also to your last paragraph, can we stop thinki…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:02 PM
2

You’re literally causing the car to have a high mileage. Then are mad at the car for having a high mileage. But that doesn’t even make sense, because the car is an object just doesn’t even get the choice. The woman has a choice, but so does that dude that hooked up with her. If you’re going to hate her, hate the dudes too
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:11 PM
5

Man, no it’s not. You’re super delusional if you think this is the case. The only people that care this much about virginity are Muslims, and men on TRP/Incels
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:24 PM
1

I think you’re way too austistically caught up in the literal definition of the word, rather than realizing it’s just an over the top thing TRP came up with. It’s a figure of speech
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:22 PM
3

That’s still hypocritical honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:18 PM
3

Eh, relationships are about risk anyway. You get together, you break up, you then find another one. Just don’t combine your finances until you’re absolutely sure she’s gonna be around for the long haul
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:17 PM
2

Then that is a fair POV.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:10 PM
4

Yeah, but it’s still hypocritical af to be like “I don’t want to date you cause you were promiscuous, even though I want to be promiscuous”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:04 PM
2

What does that even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:03 PM
2

How? You’re literally becoming part of the problem ya’ll have. It takes two people to hook up
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:02 PM
5

Still not seeing the issue with women being promiscuous, especially if the dude in question is also bring promiscuous. Doesn’t hooking up with women kind of add to the problem they’re making a deal about?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:53 PM
5

But isn’t hooking up with them also just adding to the issue? Like yeah I want casual sex too, but I’m not out here hating and refusing to date women who have it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:41 PM
3

True
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:37 PM
20

Never understood the weird anger TRP has with women who have casual sex. They want casual sex, and they want it with women. But then bash women if they have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:45 PM
2

I mean I’m just not attracted to women taller than me, so I wouldn’t necessarily ask her out in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 01:44 PM
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In the same way women keep going for the same dude, you may keep going for the same women. Change your standards, pivot your interests, and maybe vet way better. This might as well be an FDS post if you switched the genders, so much so I thought it was the Purge and just bad trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 01:42 PM
2

That’s their issue and it’s up to them see a problem if they have one. I ain’t gonna police what they do
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 01:16 AM
5

We can talk morals all day, but you’re right. How many men on here are down to lie and manipulate to get what they want (lots or casual sex). Yeah, I’m sure people will give you a dirty look when you talk about it unless they’re doing what you do as well, but if you’re successful and don’t see an issue, then why shouldn’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 06:38 PM
1

Everything is good in moderation. It’s all about self control
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 06:36 PM
3

Yeah this is well said. The stuff you put down TRP teaches is the most accurate and helpful stuff. I think some of the autistic ramblings on the subreddit can be a bit much, some are just downright unbelievable. However, I do think the whole “society teaches us the opposite” is a bit farfetched. The only people who can’t figure any of that out are cripplingly autistic average looking and below men who have just never interacted with women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 06:34 PM
10

Yup. Men reject women for what they can change, women reject men for what they can’t
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 12:50 PM
2

At this point though, FDS is so linked to TRP it’s part of the manosphere
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 12:49 PM
1

Being an HVM from what I can tell is being both high in the SMV and RMV. Chad as he is, is a guy that most women want to hook up with and/or date. He is high in SMV from the getgo because Chad is really all about how you look. Now, drug dealing Chad, gangbanger Chad, hypebeast Chad with literally no money because he bought a 4,000 pair of Fragment 1s, badboy Chad, these aren’t necessarily the highest in RMV. They will for sure get a lot of casual sex provided they are good looking, but are not s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 12:47 PM
0

And do you have any proof that isn’t anecdotal yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 10:30 PM
1

I go by men I know personally and by social media and memes made by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 10:20 PM
1

For you? Sure, but for the most part, most men prefer short women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 08:46 PM
1

I’ve seen people change, it’s possible but they need to put the effort in to change themselves. You can easily tell a person that wants to and doesn’t want to. When people don’t change, it’s not because they can’t or are incapable, they just don’t see any problems with their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:40 PM
4

Yeah, it confuses me too. Plus a woman being like 5’4 and under is actually preferred, and has the same overall value as a dude who is 6’0.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:38 PM
2

Lol like a prostitute. If women only like you for your money, you might as well get a real one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 10:33 PM
2

I’ll take your word for it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 10:29 PM
2

A good face can and will trump being short. It’s not about having every good feature, looks are about a physical package and one thing can for sure make up. And yeah, totally want to be wanted for my money lol. That’s not arousal, that’s just her thinking of all the stuff you can buy got her. She’s trading sex for cash, how is that not being a prostitute?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 10:29 PM
2

Alright, but how is a guy supposed to figure it out? Like you’re saying “you gotta figure it out” but you don’t even know how.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 10:24 PM
2

Sure, and failure is a part of it. But here’s the thing, when people fail, to actually learn from it you need to know exactly where you failed and how you failed. If no one ever tells you, how are you supposed to know what not to do next time?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 10:08 PM
1

Bro, this is some entitled whiny shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 09:21 PM
2

I’m not disagreeing with you, but if a guy doesn’t know and no one tells him he’s either bad or he’s unattractive, how is he supposed to know?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 09:20 PM
4

Not sure what you’re getting at. Who? The unattractive guys or the women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 08:57 PM
1

I didn’t even get to see it 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 08:57 PM
5

Eh, I’ve seen some Chads post on various subreddits.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 08:55 PM
7

I mean, no offense but you are attractive so all of this is kinda BS. This is the same as an inherited millionaire telling a guy who makes 30k a year how to make a million dollars. None of the advice holds any real merit, because you never used or needed any of it from the getgo. Guarantee that if you were short, or had a weak chin or just even average facial features you would not find even close to success even with all of your “tips”. If you were actually average looking then that might give …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 08:51 PM
4

I mean my belief is “average looking until proven Chad” when people come here claiming to have the insane Chad life they do. You’re right, there are some obvious larpers. And they always use the excuse of “I don’t want people doxxing me”, but reverse search for photos of they aren’t the same size is actually hard. Trust me, I’ve reversed searched photos I uploaded on myself on Imgur, and I can never find me, or any of my social medias. What you’re describing is kind of a far end to the spectrum …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 08:46 PM
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I mean, the thing about being physically less developed in that they are relatively ignored (sexually) because being less physically developed is unattractive. Many times the best they can do is find a relationship and have sex via that method. Regarding their personality, it’s because of their experience. Let’s face it, if all of your interactions acting a certain way are negative, then you’re just not going to want to act that way anymore. You flirt, you get shot down 99.5% of the time. You ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 02:07 PM
2

Lol, how could I forget. But nah, I’m a pretty social guy and it has allowed me to be in different types of groups and experiences. You’d think I’d meet at least one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:02 PM
3

So you’re telling me all the women there were coming to fuck her?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 09:49 AM
3

It was literally my house. And it wasn’t like her friends, or people who knew her, were the only people who showed
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 08:36 AM
1

Yes, but it’s not enough to make up if I’m not attracted to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 03:22 AM
2

Not true at all. If I’m not attracted to a woman and she’s not attracted to me then why can’t we be friends? Women are plenty interesting, enough to where the can actually have a conversation with them about things that interest both of you, ya know like a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 03:19 AM
1

You’re right, but who is saying it’s an issue? I guess it’s a very personal issue for the specific guy not getting laid. But as a whole? My inability to get the casual sex I want is not the responsibility of other people, nor is it an issue I’m expecting others to fix
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 03:16 AM
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Yeah, but even then your looks netted you your success regardless. Like I said I was throwing parties all the time, and I was not getting sex. In fact the only party hosts I’ve seen get laid were, well, attractive. But I’m short and average looking, so that’s not really shocking
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 03:13 AM
3

Yeah but aren’t you tall and attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:37 AM
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Seriously. I lived with a few of my friends in a house in a major city while one of them was getting her Master’s. 3 stories, roof deck, shit was an amazing place for a party. We would throw a party once every month. Get beer/booze, tell people we are throwing a party and that was about it. It for sure did not get me laid, no matter how many people came out though. It’s not some magic thing that’s gonna make me appear taller or make my jaw stronger. The only thing that will get you casual sex as…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:00 AM
2

Both yours and the statement you replied to are correct
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 08:31 PM
1

The wire had a funny scene about Couples Therapy Anyway hard to say as I’ve never been there. But most people in Couples Therapy are people who have are there because they tons of trauma that may have happened before they even met and they needed to resolve it before getting married on their own. Now they are together and one’s past trauma become’s the other’s current one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 08:30 PM
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Sure, but it wasn’t his personality or his actions that determined his body count. He was just physically attractive, a dude who is short, or is balding, or has an average to below face, or combination of those won’t get the same success. At worst he’ll be considered “creepy” and at best women will just ignore him entirely. Another friend of mine was an objective 4 and would act like the guy I mentioned before. In 1.5 years he got causal sex once with a chick like 70 pounds heavier than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 08:15 PM
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No debating, just attesting to this. There was a dude I knew in college through another friend. Pretty much the typical pretty boy Chad, tall, handsome, was a swimmer so even had the right body type without being “too big”. He was a known slut shamer, like he would brag publicly about all of his conquests and say shit like “man it was so easy to bang her”. Many women would even say shit about him, but wouldn’t ya know it he would still get laid like every weekend. His horrendous personality didn…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 06:10 PM
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I guess I just think anyone can get matches, because I’m not exactly attractive but I got them. How much casual sex you get is really the best determinant of how attractive you are (at least as a male). If you get no casual sex like me, you know where you stand on the attractiveness scale
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 02:58 PM
1

It really does. Like my current partner is fucking hilarious. She makes me laugh all the time. I’ve been with unfunny women who I just don’t want to talk to because they have nothing interesting to say. It makes the time when we don’t bang absolutely unbearable
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 01:26 PM
2

Funny thing is that this just seems like dating no matter what age group you’re in (except maybe the wife/kids part).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 01:25 PM
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She’s a Becky for sure. Kind of attractive, but not like insta thot status. She could go out and get talked up at a bar by a Chad/Chad-Lite/Brad to hookup and for an affair (which goes to the “only wants to bang and has a wife/kids/AND girlfriend). Brad also would probably want a relationship too
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 01:24 PM
4

This. You cannot equate sexual attention to romantic attention, in either gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 01:21 PM
5

Yeah. I loved getting matches until nothing would come from them (no hookups). I remember that feeling pretty well
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 01:19 PM
4

Honestly, I come here to check for your Q4W comments because it’s always in depth and quality answers
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 01:15 PM
1

Yeah that’s true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 01:13 PM
1

To be paid - want to make easy money To pay - Want to live in make believe land that it’s real and genuine and probably don’t care that it’s all fake and forced on her part.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:28 PM
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I disagree. While I do think angle frauding can make a difference (my picture is evidence of it), a face is a face and you can’t fix everything with it. Nice pictures of an average guy are just photos of an average guy, they aren’t going to make you attractive. Plus at best it’ll get you matches, I got plenty of matches on dating apps but never got the forward, sexual messages actual attractive men get. Nor did I get any sex from dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:25 PM
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Well going back to my little “relationships” in HS, I couldn’t really tell you because highschool was more than 10 years ago. But for college on, it was a few different things ranging from I just wasn’t feeling it anymore, to huge difference of opinions on things to the point where it would make fights, to just them not being mentally stable and I wasn’t not into being their orderlies. A couple broke up with me that could just be described as not being into it anymore, which was fine and it happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 09:29 AM
1

Oh yeah this is some out of the ordinary shit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 09:25 AM
1

Depends where you start. You could have bone structure sort of “hidden” if you start lifting when you’re overweight and lose body fat. Like if you’re at least average height or close enough to it, there could be something there. You won’t know until you try. Then of course there is the road of plastic surgery if you find you still don’t have anything, this is the road I’m taking
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 03:19 AM
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That’s not what I’m saying. I’m pretty blackpilled when it comes to looks and casual sex. I’m average looking and short, I’m plagued by my genetics. But here’s the thing, most of the men in the bottom 50% don’t even try. Notice how I said “most”, because there are plenty in that group that do as well (me being one of them). If you find that you threw the effort in and still fail, then yeah give up. But if you haven’t even tried? C’mon
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 03:13 AM
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Not hard at all. Considering most of my previous relationships were ended by me, it doesn’t take much to impress or maintain. And if you find a woman who is difficult to impress and just absolutely obnoxious in that regard, then just don’t date her?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 03:07 AM
2

Not really. Most were average to above average, one was just objectively attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 03:05 AM
1

Depends how they look. If they look like the fat goth chick in your highschool who was into this thing of course they aren’t going to be sought after (at least by Chad-lites or Chads, but average guys sure). Now if they’re the girls who are attractive looking in both face and body, go to the gym, ya know all that shit then of course they’ll be liked
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 01:45 AM
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I mean why can’t someone in the bottom 50% work to get out of that bubble? Plus it’s not impossible to find relationships, I’m short and average looking yet I’ve been able to find them with relative ease. And they have all been fulfilling and worthwhile. It’s not that hard to find a relationship at all if you’re average looking, and even slightly below
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 01:44 AM
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“Not meant to be a bragging post” then proceeds to make the beginning about how easy he’s got it and subsequently bragging 😂 Bro, just say you’re trying to make a thinly veiled brag post Anyway, I feel like the behavior you’ve displayed (at least in terms of a relationship) are things I have experienced and I am not only average looking, but short as well. Relationships aren’t built entirely on looks and personality can and does make a huge difference when it comes to a long term partner. Have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 05:20 PM
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For a relationship? Not important, especially when you’re 6’2 all you gotta do is not be fat. Relationships are built more on personality, compatibility, shared values, etc. There are so many average looking, below average looking, short, even overweight men who are in relationships (just go outside). You don’t have to be a Chad to find a loving, fulfilling relationship. Now if we’re talking casual sex then yeah you need to have the physical looks for sure. But that’s an entirely different ball …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:16 PM
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Subjective but to a point. Frankly, there are certain facial features that most of the population will agree are physically attractive so more people will “subjectively” find them attractive. Sure those people won’t appeal to everyone, and if you don’t have those features it does not mean you won’t appeal to anyone either. But let’s face it, what I described is pretty much objectively attractive because in any given area, most of the people there will agree you’re attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 01:32 AM
1

Not to mention aside from Prince, they have masculine physical traits but present themselves in mannerism and fashion that is feminine. They have strong jaws or strong facial features, are usually tall (much of BTS is 5’11 - 6’2), and usually have a masculine physical frame. And even Prince had an attractive face and good frame. An effeminate short man with no strong facial features can’t say that same
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 01:28 AM
1

I don’t care as long as it adds to the wealth of the family
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 01:25 AM
6

I find food service has a lot of cheaters
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 03:01 AM
7

Cheating is bad, end of story
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 03:01 AM
3

Depends on the person and the values they specifically have. Some people value relationships more; others value sex more; and both are valid. Yeah I wish I was attractive enough to get hookups. But honestly I know it won’t fix everything in my life, and I don’t need it to fix those things and I’ve never had that expectation. I don’t think anyone here does, except maybe the straight up blackpillers
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 02:58 AM
1

I mean, most men aren’t the AF ever in their lives, they’re the BB from the getgo
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 07:54 PM
13

Then why be in that relationship? Like holy shit, if she is that much of a bitch just don’t deal with it and move on. I’m not some Chad where I got options left and right, but damn nothing is worth losing my self respect to be with someone who outwardly detests me
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 07:52 PM
12

The people who actually observe the religion can smell someone doing it for pussy a mile away.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 07:50 PM
1

Yeah. Sure, most women and men will agree on what is attractive (whole point of 80/20) but the fact is you will not be attractive or unattractive to the entire opposite sex, even if you’re a dude like Nick Batemen, there are women that don’t find him attractive, it’s just most women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 03:34 PM
1

Yeah forreal. It’s not like being wanted because she finds you physically hot
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 06:15 PM
1

Crazy that there was some truth spread here, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 06:36 PM
1

I mean, it’s not like I didn’t actually put effort into trying to get casual sex. You’d think I would have succeeded at least once
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 02:06 PM
1

Good point. Like I said, it’s a good photo. If i truly was handsome I feel like I’d know
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 01:58 PM
2

Nice of you to say. I mean if I actually was handsome I feel like I’d know. I’d get the attention I want. Besides I don’t think I’m hideous, just average looking. And funny enough, what i actually want is hookups and I can’t even get them. I wish I had coping strategies for you, honestly I go through moments of just absolutely hating myself that end with me getting side tracked so I don’t think too much about it. It’s not a healthy way to think or live
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 10:16 AM
1

Lol what do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 10:10 AM
2

I appreciate that. It is me, but honestly it’s just a good photo taken by a photographer at a good angle. I’m definitely not handsome in person unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 04:03 AM
4

I see you’re back
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 02:21 AM
25

Yeah it’s kind of like saying “I’ve been homeless and poor for years, but it’s only cause I never took myself to an ATM or got a debit card and I had millions in the bank”. For sure the anger directed at this guy was not justified however, but acting like his situation is at all the same as many men is just laughable
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 01:20 AM
2

I always laugh, because I’ve never met that guy. I’m 28, I’ve met a lot of people, socialized with different groups of varying communities and every single time it was the same dudes getting laid. It was always the dudes with attractive faces and/or the tall ones. The styles choices were different for sure, but the physical traits never were
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 01:11 AM
7

Good for you. Salty I’ll never get to have hookups, but whatever. Live your life, don’t think about what other people think
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 01:07 AM
8

Literally how I feel whenever I see one of these thinly veiled “gUYs SOCIety iS BREakINg DOwN” posts
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 08:11 PM
15

Meh, whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:16 PM
1

In my experience the term of being a “plug” is being the guy with all the drugs, so probably a difference of terminology. My bad. I got no issue with drugs btw, or people who do them recreationally. did plenty of them when I partied all the time. And like I said, I also put myself out there readily and confidently. It’s literally how I’ve been able to find myself in places where I for sure wouldn’t have been able to get into if people didn’t like me
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:12 PM
2

I am aware it’s below average height. And sure 5’6 dudes can get laid, but they’re usually facially handsome. I also dress well, it’s the only thing I’m complimented on. Sure, I guess being the plug at every party helps because women use you for your drugs. Not exactly thinking “that guy is hot”, more like “what can that guy get me?”. I have also been cool with DJs, frats, venue owners. Didn’t help me get laid. Like I said I have never been fat, I was complimented on my physique just yesterday i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 02:49 PM
3

Sure, but I don’t hate women or am hostile toward women. The only person I hate is myself for not being good enough for casual sex. I’m not asking women to be attracted to me, I know why they aren’t. So stop assuming And yeah I suppose all those 5’6 engineers who are incels didn’t work hard to get to where they are today.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 02:41 PM
1

Yeah I’ve done the research, I know what I’m getting and where I’m getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 01:14 PM
2

Sure, why not. 5’6 and average looking. Been rated that way many times. Been told I’m average or plain looking at best by lookism. Feel like this translates into IRL based on not just my experiences in dating, but regular interactions. I have always put above average work into my styling a grooming. Good skin, can maybe count on one hand I have ever had a zit on my face. Skincare regiment for 10 years. Hair is cut regularly every 3-4 weeks, always styled, in trendy cuts that fit my face shape. C…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 01:13 PM
9

I always cringe at that option. Getting rich doesn’t make a woman physically attracted to you, at that point all you have is a glorified prostitute. The fuck wants that? I’ve been told tons of times I am charismatic. I’m not getting leg lengthening surgery, because it’s not realistic for me in the slightest. Getting plastic surgery though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 12:59 PM
3

See that’s also kind of false. For one, the “presence” thing doesn’t work if you’re average or ugly. They’ll just think you’re weird and ignore you. Had a friend who tried that who was objectively a 4 and he got casual sex once in a year and a half with a girl who was like 200 pounds. I also have followed all the “strategies” and shit and I always have failed in getting casual sex. I’ve always been extroverted too, that’s literally what people have always said, I can speak and go up to anyone. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 12:49 PM
1

I can’t get casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 12:42 PM
9

I did all that and still couldn’t get casual sex. There’s no gym, hairstyle, clothes, or anything that will fix being 5’6 and average looking
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 12:40 PM
2

But here’s the thing, if you’re average you will always struggle or fail to get casual sex. No one is talking about getting relationships here, all you stated is going to help you get LTRs. But when it comes to casual sex if you lack the looks then you’re already disqualified and no amount of grooming, presence or status will help
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 12:38 PM
1

I mean I’m still going to want to fuck her regardless. She can lie all she wants as long as I get a hookup at the end of the date
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 11:21 PM
4

Wow it’s almost like everyone’s got problems and they’re all valid
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 06:31 PM
1

I agree. My hobbies were never constrained, I liked what I liked and still like what I like. You’re right, people think you’re a slob/loner if you’re a dude that doesn’t dress well or is well groomed and/or doesn’t interact with others. I have been able to share my hobbies to my full extent in every relationship I had, and I was doing shit like playing DnD with my friends. But it wasn’t the only thing about me or the main thing about me. Did I share that on the first date? No, but in later ones?…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 11:08 AM
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Sure, but the point is the hobby matters after the looks come into play. The average male finance bro or volleyball player will still lose out to the hot male DND dungeon master
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 01:08 AM
24

Yup. Knew a Tyrone in college that was very into anime, like watched it in Japanese and even recited some lines in the language in conversation. Dude still slayed in college like every weekend with at least above average to hot women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 01:07 AM
2

Yup. What, Chad only wants the best when given the choice? How shocking
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 09:44 PM
2

Surprisingly so. Speaking with my female friends and acquaintances they have complained many times of a dude just sending his dick. That being said they only complain if the dude isn’t someone they’re attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 09:42 PM
2

It’s gonna hit you hard bro, unless you have a masculine looking attractive face. If you have the pretty boy face, it’s just not gonna look good
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 09:41 PM
5

Yup. If they cheat on you, kick their ass to the curb
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 10:37 AM
16

Not really, Chad is all down to looks. So Chad can have any personality and still be Chad as long as he’s what 80% of women find physically attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 03:59 PM
3

Nah, it’s just about being attractive looking or unattractive looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 03:58 PM
27

A boring Chad will still get laid, an interesting average looking guy won’t. The best the latter will get is an LTR, and maybe one hookup once every year
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 03:55 PM
16

So then she’s just a glorified prostitute. Cool, that’s not being interested in you or thinking you’re attractive, you’re just a meal ticket
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 03:53 PM
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I feel like they’re angry because women aren’t “doing their duty nature directs”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 03:52 PM
2

Not really, I wanted casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 03:48 PM
1

I like that, good to see
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 10:53 AM
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I mean, women place an insane amount of value on a man’s height. It’s just men trying to fire back to so speak when women share the 10,000th meme saying a man under 5’7 is not a real man or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 08:43 PM
3

Maybe you were somewhat oblivious Nah, because I have never even got an indicator of interest IRL. Even all the “oblivious ones” listed here. But I see plenty of hints and actions, sometimes obvious, given to men most would consider attractive. You gonna tell me I’ve never once come in contact with an obvious girl? Get real But I’m sure you would have met with some success when you approach girls at least, right? Not for casual sex. LTRs? Sure, but that’s just it. That’s isn’t being successful, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 06:42 PM
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It doesn’t come off as nasty. And yes, I had an active social life pre-Covid where I went to bars, clubs, concerts, music festivals, threw parties at the house I lived in. I got no hints. I’ve been rated as “plain” by the folks at Lookism, and based on my experiences IRL I know it to be true. The idea of average means to be invisible, to fade in the background, to not turn heads. So this is not surprising, btw. Maybe what you perceive as “average” actually isn’t average at all but above it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 06:10 PM
2

Like I understand people might not like them for religious reasons, but to outright think less of someone for getting a tattoo? Idk man, that’s just kinda stupid. I guess unless it’s something you get that is straight up offensive and intending to be offensive or hurt others, but aside from the dude getting a swastika on his neck as a part of his Neo Nazi initiation, or the gangbanger getting those tear drop tattoos, I really cannot see the harm
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 01:24 PM
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Tattoos genuinely don’t bother me, I do not understand why they bother some people to the extent they do in 2021. I have never found consistency in the behavior that people with tattoos have.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 12:00 PM
21

So, quick question then. What if she stops wanting to be FWBs and wants to return to platonic friends? Would you stick around?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 11:59 AM
1

She has nothing to gain from it, just like she doesn’t have anything to gain from sleeping with Chad. To be fair I don’t blame her or hate her for not choosing to hook up with me, I just hate myself for not being the guy she chooses to hook up with
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 11:57 AM
3

In the US it absolutely does though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 09:33 AM
2

It’s the height. Height will add a point or two
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 09:27 AM
6

That’s only abusers. I know that just because she shows interest I can’t just pull my dick out and say “suck it”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 09:26 AM
1

My assumption is guys like maybe that crumb of possibility for the slightest hook up
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 10:13 PM
5

Yeah, who the hell wouldn’t? Best part is when they straight up make fun of the simps, and they still get money. Imagine having that ease and power for a second
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 10:10 PM
14

Neat, I’m not going to give you any hate. But I have never been able to get experiences like yours. But acting like you’re so below average is laughable, you’re tall, you get to be above average by default
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 10:00 PM
3

Probably the case tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 09:57 PM
9

As an average looking guy, I get hit on never or ever got any sort of hints, even from average looking to below. This is such an uninformed comment oh my god
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 05:24 PM
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Lol women have no idea how much men are ignored, holy shit
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 05:16 PM
5

Average guys won’t get the hint at all except maybe once in an extremely blue moon. The fuck are you even talking about 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 05:15 PM
6

Bruh lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 05:14 PM
3

Damn, I have gotten none of these.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 04:54 PM
1

Damn, I must be below average
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 04:52 PM
3

True, but would you hook up with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 03:32 PM
57

Because true average men are just invisible
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:32 PM
13

Height makes a big difference
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:31 PM
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Above average looking tall white dude, it’s shocking to me based on all the things we see online he didn’t realize his SMV was so high. He’s probably just kind of autistic and doesn’t understand social cues It’s rare kind of, but don’t think that “wow this guy got it so easily, it just means I’m the same!”. Men love to use this kind of coping mechanism so they don’t feel as bad, many times it’s just objectively true. Like yeah I don’t get attention, I’m 5’6 and average looking, so yeah no shit i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 01:13 PM
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I have to agree with this, it boggles my mind how every week we get one of these “sell me on marriage” posts” from supposed Chads that women are fighting to marry. Look, you either get married or you don’t. If you’re so fucking worried about your resources or whatever being stolen, demand a Pre-Nup. I’m a dude and my ex said that if we got engaged I needed to sign one because she was set to inherit her father’s practice, and also a bunch of money when he keeled over
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 10:05 AM
5

I can’t really deny this to be the case. Usually if you get a woman into bed she is less likely to ghost
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 05:36 PM
1

I think your example is that hair is important sure, but understand that it’s kind of the cherry on top. It’s not gonna raise your SMV or lower it like crazy, ugly is ugly no matter what hair style you have
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 02:23 PM
1

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 02:21 PM
1

Simping, and being way too trusting. By all means, don’t question them every time they don’t answer your text in 10 minutes, but I see some dudes move in with a chick after like 6 months. C’mon
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:52 PM
1

There are “nice” manipulators, meaning people who aren’t straight up assholes in their behavior. Sure, they’re not exactly good people by manipulating others, but they aren’t assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:50 PM
1

Yeah, even my real me is sort of subdued.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:49 PM
6

Yeah. I don’t blame her for actions done to her, and I don’t hate her for it. However you cannot expect me to “bring her back to life”, that’s not my job. I got my own things to deal with, I cannot take on another’s
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:25 PM
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I think the point here is that RP cannot determine all human behavior across the board. There will be instances that agree with it, and there will be instances that disagree with it. I think for some things RP is right generally, but there are a lot it’s wrong about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:23 PM
4

I think it depends on what exactly transpired to cause the divorce and who initiated it. Really case by case basis like many things in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:21 PM
6

I misunderstood your point, we are on the same page
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 09:53 PM
8

Okay yeah, this I agree with. If you’re with a girl and she finds your money attractive, then congrats you’ve got a glorified prostitute
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 09:52 PM
8

I think it’s cause I’m a shallow person, but if she didn’t want me because I wasn’t physically attractive, but then began to want me because I turned physically attractive for whatever reason, then I’d understand. Perfectly acceptable just implies average
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 06:58 PM
7

Or she already did them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 06:55 PM
11

Halo effect. You see a pretty person, you think they are everything good in the world. You’re right, most people end up with someone who shares their personality, values, interests, etc, otherwise they wouldn’t be together passed a hookup. You see a girl with a druggie? She’s also partaking in those drugs. You see a girl with a sociopath? She’s also probably one to some extent. Women aren’t ill-informed children who need to have their hands held, most adult women are more or less aware of the re…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 06:54 PM
20

Appreciate the honesty
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 04:37 PM
13

Please, go to the south. Ya know how many girls are in college now and in sororities just so they can be paired up and find a husband to be a SAHM? Is this career driven financial advisor woman who lives in NYC going to become a homemaker? Of course not, but the chick who lives in GA, SC, AL? Yeah, move out of a city, plenty of women are still down to be homemakers
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 02:56 PM
1

The same way women are? Some people don’t get pride from spending their own money or making it themselves and gladly take other’s money. That’s not a gendered thing, it’s a human thing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 02:53 PM
2

Boggles my mind. If you don’t have the resources for a Mercedes, then you can’t even lease one. Either be okay with a less expensive model, or don’t have a car.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 10:48 AM
1

If he’s got bad frame, he’ll probably just be average. You need to be at least kind of muscular
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 01:49 AM
4

Yeah but they don’t want the homely women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 01:45 AM
3

Eh, kind of. Average looking men can get relationships somewhat easily, tons of average looking guys are in them. Just go outside
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 01:45 AM
2

Well it’s really a package deal, as some traits will make up for others. It’s hard to really say what’s the most important, like an attractive face can make a 5’7 guy attractive, and being 6 foot can make a man with a plain face attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 01:33 AM
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/thread
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:14 PM
1

As long as it’s not taking my social then whatever. But let’s be real, criminal Chad will still get chicks to come over for a hook up. Background checks won’t make a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:13 PM
1

So with the the degree/career thing, that’s a bit difficult to fake as it will more or less determine what you’re going to do for the next 40+ years. Here’s the thing though, provided your career makes good money it won’t matter exactly what you do. Really you should be concentrating on your actual physical attractiveness. The attractive computer scientist or Engineer will always get laid, even if his career is “nerdy” or male dominated. Same thing in college, knew a Tyrone who studied Comp Sci …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 02:36 PM
27

Yeah really. If you’re a woman all you need to be is not fat and you’re in the top 40%.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 02:30 PM
3

For the first two you’re right for the most part, but only for men we don’t know or aren’t close with. For the last one we have plenty of ambition, but only if the result of the action or the task we’re ambitiously taking on will benefit us in some way
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 08:42 AM
1

I think BB is only a bad situation if the Betabuxx isn’t actually getting the sex he desires, whether it’s quality, frequency, or both. Provided he’s getting his fill of sex, I doubt any BB actually cares that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 10:26 PM
4

Because men compete with each other, our entire life is competition with other men to get laid. And yes we got other stuff in our life, but without sex is not a happy one. Plus, men don’t have an overarching care for other men they don’t know. As a man, I really could care less what happens to men i don’t know. But if that same thing was happening to a man that’s a friend, family, close relationship, then yeah I’m motivated to fight and care.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 10:20 PM
25

If this ain’t the truth, I don’t know what is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 10:17 PM
4

Because women like being attractive, and the smaller a woman is the more attractive she’s considered. Sure, there are other things as well that go into her attractiveness, but a woman being bigger or taller is usually a dealbreaker for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 01:06 PM
1

I was considering doing filler first before going all in on the implant, but honestly I’d have to keep Re upping it so I’m just gonna pull the trigger on the implant. How long do your fillers usually last?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 02:04 AM
2

Those are pretty popular, I’m looking at jaw or chin implants for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 01:57 AM
1

So do I lol, but I’m just stating the reality of things. What do you want done?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 01:34 AM
18

Most likely. We put a lot of our self worth on our looks, simply because other people do. You got men going under the knife more than ever just to get a right swipe. If there wasn’t such value in it, then plastic surgery just wouldn’t be a thing .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 12:30 AM
1

who id say I’m better looking than Lol, obviously they’re better looking if they’re getting laid more than you OP. Sexual dimorphism is being “good looking”, because traits that are considered masculine (strong jaw, height, frame) are what 80% of women find good looking and attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 08:20 PM
9

Nah, because cheating would imply that the other person doesn’t know and didn’t consent. What you should be asking is “should there be open relationships” and yeah as long as both parties are cool with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 08:17 PM
8

If there isn’t attraction between them, they absolutely can be friends. They can if there’s attraction too, but only if both are attracted to each other. As long as both people are on the same page mentally, then they can be friends. If one feels one way while the other feels the other, then it won’t work. But that’s any kind of relationship, romantic/sexual or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 08:15 PM
1

I think it may be important to experience so you may be able to compare it to future relationships, and so you can figure out what you want and don’t want in a partner. But it’s for sure not the end all be all of relationships, not by a long shot
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 08:13 PM
1

I mean when they say “spin plates” it’s not exactly having serious relationships with them. It’s mostly just juggling women who you want to fuck whenever. You’re not really putting time or any sort of resources into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 07:55 PM
4

Lol of course you were tall, it don’t matter if you got a plain face, being tall already makes you attractive many times
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 07:27 PM
1

Idk? I had some gfs in highschool, the relationships didn’t last that long, but we said “I love you to each other”. The “love” we felt for each other is so laughable though compared to what I experienced in college and my 20s. The intensity, intimacy, attraction all that stuff was way more powerful for me later on, even if it felt like the most intense love, attraction anyone could feel at 16. I didn’t miss out, at least I don’t feel like I did. 28 Male
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 07:20 PM
3

I mean, I’ve always been honest with my intentions. They just didn’t want me because I wasn’t attractive enough. It’s not about being athletic, it’s about being attractive and being more involved with sports growing up gives a boy a better chance of looking more masculine, which is considered attractive by most women. It don’t matter how honest you are with your intention, if you lack the looks she’s not going to want to hook up with you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 01:58 AM
18

Depends how strong your jaw is, or how tall you are. The accent is the cherry on top, but it’s not the sundae, not by a long shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 12:45 AM
2

I swear your posting is like layers of irony
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 12:34 AM
1

Lol sure
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 10:29 PM
1

It’s more ego for me than anything else. I wish I could have been promiscuous, but I wasn’t attractive enough. And how do I respond when people call me judgemental? I either ignore it straight up, or just tell people they don’t have to live my life and that’s it. I don’t understand why everyone here cares what others think holy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 09:36 PM
11

Yeah for real. Pretty much going to tell my kid he better be into sports and shit, or he’s not gonna get any chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 09:33 PM
1

I think your definition of a of what you think women call a Fuckboy is incorrect here. A couple of months doesn’t constitute a woman believing the guy was a fuckboy, it would be if he pumps and dumps her after maybe a week. A dude that put no real resources into it, and she gave him sex and he drops her after he got what he wanted. A relationship that’s a couple months long is quite common in highschool or college, afterward it might seem a bit short yeah, but that’s what dating’s about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 09:29 PM
3

I think this is true, much of the anger phase in TRP is fueled by missing out on youth. Knowing that you were more or less screwed in a whole different level, maybe it was your looks, maybe it was the social status, whatever it is you were locked out of what the popular kids got. Still, I think i the most of TRPers could have had young love, it would have just been with the weebs, the burnouts, the nerds, the outcasts. They would not have looked like the high school cheerleader, but the intensit…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 09:24 PM
1

For a relationship? I mean there’s for sure a limit. But I think you can do like 1 or 2 points below her preference if your personality is truly amazing and they are very compatible. There is an LTR threshold, and while it may be lower than it is for casual sex. For casual sex? Not a chance in hell, that shit is based off looks and looks alone. Sure you can still fail because you have the wrong personality, but if you don’t have the looks to start with you don’t even get to the qualifying round
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 12:47 PM
5

I mean that’s a bit of a stretch, the idea of the sex doll is that it’s supposed to be a secret. Ya’ll live together and most likely use the same car(s). You gonna tell me she’s never going to use that car to run an errand and have to open the trunk?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 05:22 PM
10

I don’t think married men, or almost any man that lives with their SO or lives with anyone buys a sex doll. Where would you even put it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 05:14 PM
1

I think honestly I have, because I have thrown tons of effort into it. Granted I still couldn’t get the casual sex I wanted, but I can at least I say I tried
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 04:29 PM
10

Hit the nail on the head.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 01:53 PM
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Well personally, growing up I was into the emo, scene, metal, goth, you get it, phase. Grew out of the style once I reached college, but still listen to the music heavily. I still think the goth chicks are hot though, but really it could be going back to my teen years
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 01:52 PM
3

Because most men don’t have the options or ability to have high standards. That, or they do want something of a higher standard, but settle for what they can realistically get. Here’s the thing, say you need a car to go to work, or run errands, or live in a place with no public transport and nothing is within walking distance. You want an Aston Martin, or Lambo, or Tesla. That’s your standard after all, but you don’t have good credit, you don’t have enough money to outright buy it, or you don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 02:28 PM
4

Well then maybe that’s all you can get?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 04:34 PM
3

If ugly women is all you can get, and you need that genuine attraction, then so be it. If you’re actually a wizard, then it’s probably for a good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 03:38 PM
5

More like you need to change your looks more than anything. I’ve been in groups where partying happens somewhat frequently, and let me tell you it doesn’t matter if you lack the looks to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 04:57 PM
3

Sound pretty average.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 03:23 AM
4

I find that when they don’t consider themselves attractive, they at least can see other people do. They’ll just say “I don’t see it”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 02:55 AM
6

Yup. You can say to yourself that you’re attractive, but if no one else thinks so or many people don’t think so then you’re just not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 02:54 AM
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why do you think those two groups are so different? The first group is physically attractive which is how they are successful. The second group is not, which is why they are unsuccessful. It’s not rocket science. However, group 1 may need a tiny modicum of confidence otherwise they will not be successful, but group 2 doesn’t even get to qualify for the lack of looks from the start
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 02:50 AM
3

Yeah. By all means she can have her past, as long as I get treated the same or better both emotionally and sexually
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 12:16 AM
1

Honestly, I’d be fine with the easy to get a date but get the sexual harassment. However I’m not dumb enough to realize that I can’t know for sure because I haven’t lived that experience and it could actually be awful. But I know that as I am now i would absolutely love that attention and I could find ways to use it to my advantage
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 03:13 PM
5

And then they’ll be like “I’m not trying to get laid bro. She’s just a good friend”. And then they become the embodiment of this
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 03:11 PM
3

No arguments here
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 10:22 AM
6

For real, as long as they seem happy then who the hell cares
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 10:21 AM
9

Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 10:00 AM
3

This is a known meme. It’s basically making fun of how most advice given to men is bullshit like “take a shower” assuming that the men failing aren’t already doing that. Not everyone is the unhygienic neckbeard, in fact that’s only a small population
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 09:56 AM
1

It’s a known meme in the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 09:54 AM
3

Yup, I feel this. I don’t have a problem overall with promiscuous women, because I’d be a hypocrite hating them as I want to be promiscuous. But I don’t date them, because I was locked out of that part
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 09:51 AM
6

Yeah, that’s why people always confuse me when they say “being liked for your looks isn’t liking you for you”. Your looks are literally part of you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 09:48 AM
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Yup, unless she’s reaching out for a ONS (which never happens), then don’t answer. 99 times out of 100 she’s just gonna be looking for a simp
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 09:43 AM
3

I think when it comes to polishing though, it’s not automatically going to make you into the top 20. I’ve been putting above average effort into my appearance for over a decade and it’s never made me into the top 20 percent of men. There’s no hairstyle, no outfit, no gym that will fix being short with an average looking face
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 08:59 PM
3

Right, but again if you don’t already have the looks first your personality doesn’t matter because it’s already a no from the getgo. While I agree personality can make a 7 into a 4 or 5, it absolutely cannot do the same the other way around. If you dont meet the casual sex level of looks, then the best your personality can net you is a comitted relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 08:49 PM
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Maybe in a relationship a man can make up for his bad looks with other stuff, but when it comes to casual sex if you don’t have the looks you don’t even qualify.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 07:44 PM
2

I mean, I don’t know where you live, but in any given major city I see men doing all of this. I’ve been doing this forever and it didn’t improve my SMV. It’s not the clothing, it’s the guy in the clothes
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 03:24 PM
3

I kind of agree with this? But going from the maybe to the want to fuck is still extremely difficult. You have to be like Hitler level of charismatic to even have a shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 02:39 PM
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I don’t disagree with you at all, that’s not what I’m saying. My point is a lot of people on here keep saying that personality can turn you from a 5 to an 7, which is just not the case. I believe personality can make a person unattractive depending on how attractive a guy is, but personality will never make your jaw stronger or make you grow taller
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 02:22 PM
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I mean it ends up confirming the black pill sometimes too. There was a thread where someone asked women the importance of looks on casual sex and almost all the responses were that looks were the most important aspect, not personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:20 PM
2

Nah, maybe 1 at most, but most likely it’s gonna be .5 points.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 11:57 AM
1

I’m kind of curious what you mean here, and what you think would make fashion more “eye catching”. When people say dress better, they more or less mean to have better fit more than anything else and to not wear marvel t shirts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 11:55 AM
6

Yeah. Saying men “should be allowed” is saying they’re entitled to cheat. No one is entitled to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 11:51 AM
2

Mommy issues or putting moms on a pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 04:00 PM
1

Well, it honestly depends where you’re starting from. The biggest thing you can do is start concentrating on fitness to truly see where you stand. You don’t need to go all the way down to like 3% like many say, but you should try to get down to like 12-15% You don’t even need to be totally ripped, but be at the level where you look muscular in a t shirt. This will then determine your base. If you find you don’t have a masculine face or jawline, then maybe it’s time to look into surgery, but bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 01:24 PM
5

Well you’re implying TRP is super mainstream, it’s not, you either have to stumble upon on in some Reddit/4chan thread, or someone has to tell you it exists. You ask most men what TRP is and they won’t know what it is you’re even talking about. Anyway, from what I can tell it’s about the slightest sliver of attention from a woman as attractive as them. Like yeah it’s all pretend, but that single moment of validation can make their minimum wage grocery store job worth it. They think maybe one day…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 12:40 AM
2

We posted this a while ago. It’s not good, at least you shouldn’t expect to see fruits of it for like 3-4 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 08:21 PM
14

Happy April Fools Mods
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 12:33 PM
2

It’s the living embodiment of the “please be patient, I have autism” hat
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 06:54 AM
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Nah man, it just sounds autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 05:40 AM
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I don’t even know what’s going on in the link, but some of the shit you say in general was cringey, “I make friends because I’m a charismatic guy”, like who just comes out and says that shit? Anyway, did you compliment her after you found out she was 17? If so, then yeah that’s weird. Even when I was like 20 if I found out a girl is 17, full stop to the convo
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 05:32 AM
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I actually could not have said it better myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 10:42 PM
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Considering I’m going under the knife and spending tons of money for attention, yeah it’s pretty damn important
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 05:33 PM
2

Yup. That’s why I always tell people that you don’t have to thing the same things are important as I do, you aren’t me, you don’t have to live my life. I may not value the same things as you, but I at least can say the things you find value in are valid
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 05:33 PM
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The idea of putting a woman on a pedestal is to consider her not your equal, and to consider her better. It means that you essentially feel you are not worthy of her presence, her love, her interest, her time, etc. So you must constantly ensure that you prove yourself to be good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 11:18 AM
2

Yeah. The royal family may have money, but Harry and Meghan together they can make way more on their status alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 11:16 AM
1

For sure. Only difference is women can change that if she wants, I see tons of women in the gym every time I go running on the treadmill, using the elliptical, and then lifting weights. If it’s a medical condition, then go see an endocrinologist
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 11:14 AM
4

Fucking thank you. I’ve never seen a 5’4 Asian dude slaying, and I’ve been around the block a quite few times. The dudes slaying are always the 6’2 white or black dudes, or if they’re not tall they’re always very handsome facially.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 11:13 AM
2

Exactly. Who am I gonna take financial advise from? The guy who inherited his millions, or the guy who earned them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 01:08 PM
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It’s awful advice, never do a hobby with the intention to meet people for sex because you’ll most likely not succeed. You’ll find many times that you’re the only single person in a sea of couples, or there’s like one single woman who is crowded by attention from the other single men who had the same idea you did, and if you want the hookup you better be the most attractive there. And let’s face it, if you’re there to meet women to start with, like you said Kevin is just back to square one. Anecd…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 01:00 PM
6

Oh for sure. Former Beckies who lost their attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 12:49 PM
5

I imagine most of them are plain janes to Beckies honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 12:02 PM
4

OP, how many more chromosomes do you have than me? Holy shit man
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 01:17 AM
5

Your choices are to excel and become above average, or bribe women by spoiling them to even have a chance And the latter is basically have a glorified prostitute. Any woman that finds your money attractive is just that, a prostitute. The former is the only good advice to give men, if it’s anything but “be better than average” it’s all BS
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 01:15 AM
2

I guess? But where exactly would I go that would have the amenities that I get here in the US? Outside of a third world country, my SMV isn’t going to move very much. Yeah I guess I can maybe get laid, but I can’t drink the water. But it’s just not realistic, I have to first learn an entirely new language (because no third world country is going to have the locals speak English well at all), and find a job in that country, a new place to live, etc. And then I’d have to actually live there. No of…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 01:11 AM
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I don’t understand why everyone is denying this so hard. Chads can get soft harems, some do, and some don’t. And then people are like “that’s not a harem”, yeah everyone knows it’s the definition of a regular harem, but we don’t have an easier single word to kind of describe what Chads can have
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 12:58 AM
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Do you have to give your social honestly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 12:08 AM
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How is it even bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 05:13 PM
5

Prostitution is not the same as casual sex. Casual sex for men isn’t about just getting laid, it’s also about the validation and ego that comes from it. Paying someone to pretend to want you is fucking pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 01:25 PM
3

Yeah, most of the dudes here are virtue signaling
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 01:24 PM
2

That’s some BS, and these dudes know it. It’s 100% some virtue signaling on their part. Or I guess they might “‘mean it” but that’s only because they can’t be fuckboys themselves. It’s sort of sour grapes mentality “oh I didn’t want to fuck lots of women anyway”. When given the choice, like most would pick the fuckboy life. I also think blaming women is stupid too. I’ll admit that I wish I could be a fuckboy, but i can’t because I’m not attractive. Don’t hate women for that, just hate myself
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 11:31 PM
1

They’re for sure virtue signaling. Even if they only want it to be for a period of time, they still want it at some point
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 09:34 PM
4

Yup. They just also happen to be attractive looking which is how they get sex from it. No one is gonna want to fuck the average looking drunk, but they will fuck the one with the strong jaw
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 09:08 PM
3

Who is even saying “just be abusive bro”?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 08:50 PM
3

I mean, having a handsome face can absolutely negate being short. You gotta have one or the other
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 08:50 PM
9

Please, just about every single woman I have ever known closely, and I guess acquainted, have all engaged in casual sex at some point. And these aren’t kinky or fetish club people, they’re mostly basic girls with basic interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 08:42 PM
4

No, they really can’t. Being a fuckboy is all about looks, and if you’re short and average looking there is nothing you can really do to change that. Trust me, I did put in the effort and I still failed as did many men who are the same as me and it didn’t make them any more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 08:39 PM
11

Your scenario only happens in a small town where most people know each other, maybe a small college. But in a major city this definitely won’t be the case. And sure women don’t like casual sex, but they still go out and have it and it’s always with the same kind of dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 08:37 PM
4

It’s just reality. Short or average looking guys cant be fuckboys, every fuckboy is tall and/or attractive. Plus I don’t think I’m a nice guy, like at all. Hell I would be a fuckboy if I had to looks to be one
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 08:29 PM
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Doesn’t matter. She won’t find out until after she’s hooked up with him. It’s not about getting repeat customers, he’s still get his ONS, even if she doesn’t want seconds. It’s about getting the highest number of sexual partners
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 08:26 PM
4

Just Become ATTRACTIVE Assholes Already... and then STFU Quick correction. The short average looking guy can’t become a fuckboy, you also have to have the looks of one to get anywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 08:24 PM
16

You think the broke, attractive guy doesn’t get hookups?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 08:16 PM
6

Nobody is denying this on here though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 08:16 PM
5

Exactly, but being a Fuckboy is as much about looks as it is attitude. Anyone can act like one, but you also need to look like one too for you to get anywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 08:15 PM
1

Really, a promiscuous woman has to just show up and look half way decent. In fact she doesn’t have to do that depending on her target audience. It’s like finding out how to get rich. Am I going to listen to the guy who got a million dollars by being born into it, or the guy who hot a million dollars despite being born into the middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 08:10 PM
1

For your first question, I find it’s easy to tell where you stand based on the little things people do with you or around you. If you’re thinking to yourself you’re one rating but no one agrees with it, you can say it all you want it doesn’t make it true. Also everyone’s rating of others is going to be pretty different, but the pure fact that looks and attractiveness is all so subjective. It’s really not that subjective, because there are features that most of the population considers attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 09:13 PM
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I know, my point was that there are men that are subjectively found attractive by a high majority of women. Chad is not a man that is attractive to all women, he’s a man that is attractive to most.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 08:16 PM
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So you don’t think there are men with features that appeal to a high majority of women? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 04:36 PM
6

No one is looking to rotate the same number of harems that saultans have, the soft harem is the goal most men want to achieve
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 04:35 PM
6

Okay but it’s not about being it forever, it’s about being Chad in your 20s and having the validation that you are or you were attractive. No shit everyone gets old. Plus all I want is a bunch of fuck buddies and casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 01:06 PM
2

Yup. You can act however you want as long as you’re after casual sex and you’re attractive enough
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 01:05 PM
1

How do you even check for something like that? You gonna ask to see his Reddit account on date 1?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 11:37 PM
1

Unstable women chase everyone, their standards are pretty low and they are desperate to fill the hole. Chad-Lites and above get plenty of attention anyway, so they kind of see through a little more of the crazy than your average guy. The average guy is so starved for attention he doesn’t care where it comes from
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 11:32 PM
1

People get too focused on height, a handsome face can negate being short. It’s why I’m getting surgery despite being 5’6
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 11:21 PM
1

Yup. Men do have the same “one that got away”. Usually it’s the men who don’t get any attention from women like at all and got lucky that someone hot in the very small small pool of women interested liked them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 11:15 PM
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How much looks matter for casual sex. I know it’s shocking that I didn’t realize it, but I drank the koolaid. If you want to get casual sex, you need to be attractive no questions asked
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 11:11 PM
6

Yup. Women just treat Chads so much differently. Can’t even imagine the validation of being one
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 11:09 PM
1

Yup. Men get virtually no attention unless he’s at least a Chad lite. When he finally meets a woman who is doing the chasing, he’s so shocked and it’s such a boon to his ego he ignores every other red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 11:03 PM
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It’s actually very common. Women give each other shit all the time if you date a guy that isn’t tall enough or attractive enough. Some women don’t care enough about it, but a majority do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 11:01 PM
2

For number 1 that stuff matters for LTRs, it 100% doesn’t matter for casual sex though. If you lack the looks you’ve already lost the latter
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 11:00 PM
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Yup. It’s really hard to say with certainty what the average person looks like, because if they’re average we don’t even notice them. They fade into the background, an extra in a scene we’re not supposed to focus one
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 02:51 PM
13

Yup. You may have Chad in your phone for just sex, but he’s also in other women’s phones for the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 08:23 PM
7

You’re also under this impression that it’s about just being taller than her, but that isn’t the case at all. It’s about how tall you look compared to the men around you. For example I’m 5’6 so you would think that by your logic of “taller than her” would make me considered tall enough for most women as I’m above the average height for a woman. But I’m actually considered too short by most women when it comes to casual sex, in fact many women require that a man is about 7 to 8 inches than her to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 08:19 PM
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I mean you can just go outside and function in society to see that the same 20% of dudes are what 80% of women are after. It’s why men who have the same kinds of features tend to be what women consider attractive, and that is men who are tall and/or have masculine facial features. Does every woman want this guy? No, if you ask a group of 4 women, I suppose one will say “he’s not my type” but the other 3 most likely will. It’s why these men are the ones that get the most matches, get most of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 08:10 PM
1

Yeah it sounds like he’s just bitching that the hot women want assholes and are shallow. Okay cool, so maybe go for Beckies or below if you think it’s only hot women. Seems like an easy solution he’ll have the option to do apparently. Or this entire post is just BS redpill larping to try to sell snake oil.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 11:28 PM
1

Only if she herself is attracted to the man. She won’t give a shit if an average looking or short dude isn’t caring. He’s totally invisible to her
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 11:23 PM
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Fucking exactly. Without looks, you don’t even qualify
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 11:21 PM
1

I’m a little confused here, are you saying this is only for hot girls? Like exactly how hot and is it only for looks? Because maybe you should try to pivot your interests slightly if you find the same issues when you for the same kind of girl. This same advice is given when women bitch about Chad pumping and dumping them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 10:02 PM
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Yeah really. Unless you’re a size queen, it’s not enough to have her overlook not being tall enough. Now that being said if you’re 5’6 and people know you’re walking with a baby arm in your pants, then the size queens will come running regardless of looks
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 09:38 PM
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And? I’m not bashing women for doing it, just stating the reality
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 08:05 PM
1

Yeah it’s always the same looking dudes getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 02:42 PM
2

For real. You either want it or you don’t. No one here has the time or desire to sell this shit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 02:39 PM
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Well you’re sort of equating blue pill with beta male, but that isn’t what TBP actually is. Blue pilled people are just normal people who do believe all the BS, or have no reason to question. There are plenty of Bluepilled Chads out there getting laid every weekend, but believe it’s something that every guy can accomplish in the same amount at any time, and don’t know anything about strategies, dread game, etc. If you ask any of them what TRP most won’t know what you’re even talking about. Anywa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 02:38 PM
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Last paragraph hits the nail on the head. Realistically a woman figured out what column she wants to put you in upon first meeting. Are you the “hookup/ONS/FWBs” guy? Are you the “boyfriend” guy? Are you the “just friends guy”? Are you the “maybe we’ll fuck if i can’t find anything better” guy? Are you the “absolutely never would I share a bed with you” guy? Etc Where you sit with her is more or less pre determined and unless you go through a massive change in looks via looksmaxxing of any kind,…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 02:35 PM
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I’m gonna be honest, I have never seen this except once and it’s because he was known for having a 10 inch dick. I would say I’m a pretty social dude, hanging out with multiple types of groups in differing locations. I grew up in a suburb, lived in a college town for college, lived in a major city after college and then moved to an area that while it isn’t rural there are rural areas around it. And the dudes who were getting laid were always who you thought were, men who were generally considere…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:13 PM
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So cute I want to puke
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 05:49 PM
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A) Just bullying B) None C) Mostly depression. I felt social anxiety when I was younger, but I don’t anymore D) No. I have a supportive social group E) No, but it will make an aspect that is important to me better. F) See the answer to question E G) No H) Yes Edit: Can’t wait for OP’s next post “After taking your answers, I found it’s your fault for not being in the 20% because of x reason. This is the worst attempt at a “gotcha” I’ve ever seen on here
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 12:46 PM
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Idk, my assumption is that the average man gets up, goes to work, comes home, has dinner and goes to sleep. The average woman gets up, does to work, comes home, has dinner and goes to sleep. I suppose the latter could also swipe on tinder and find a guy to come over, but that’s only if she wants this and it’s not necessarily something every one will do at any given time. That would be more out of the ordinary.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 05:18 PM
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Honestly, I am the same way in terms of what I find attractive. The funny thing is you’re saying it’s a long list of “needs” but none of this is necessarily difficult to find if you actually take the time to look. I’ve found all of these things multiple times in my exes and my current LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 05:03 PM
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If they’re grossed out by vaginas, they might be interested in a different set of sexual organs
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 05:00 PM
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Yup. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 02:42 PM
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Dude must be a total Chad if he’s getting you to do this
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 03:32 AM
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Bruh if you want the girl to have an orgasm, you’re gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 03:17 AM
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I think also attractive men have more successes, because they’re just, well, attractive. In many case they’re more or less handed at least hook ups and are partially handed relationships. I think an above average person has more all around knowledge, they get a decent amount of opportunities from the getgo but it’s still not handed to them and they have to learn how to take the opportunities they’re given. Think of the guy who is a 6-6.5 in your office, your class, your friend group.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 02:56 AM
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Seriously. It isn’t a parent’s job to make sure their son has an n count over 20. They’re more concerned on him being able to be successful career wise
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 02:53 AM
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Agreed. It’s like they think every man who is having dating problems is just some fat neckbeard who has no hygiene. Or just so socially inept they go around screaming how they hate women and that women can sense it or some shit. Like I’ll talk about my dating troubles and it’s the same old platitudes and same recycled advice. And usually when I explain I already do all the shit they don’t have a response, because they just cannot believe that someone who follows their advice can have trouble
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 02:51 AM
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Maybe? The thing about my exes is you can’t really lump them all into the same anything. They were different races, different social and economic classes, different upbringings, different belief systems, etc. There wasn’t necessarily anything in common between them except that they happened to find me physically attractive. My friends have all had the same experiences to me as well and they don’t look anything like me. And I’m not criticizing showing vulnerability, my point is that you can’t jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 07:33 PM
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That’s where I kind of stop agreeing with some of the dudes here. Average looking men can get relationships that are fulfilling from women that are genuinely into them. And no, it doesn’t have to be with the absolute bottom of the barrel in terms of looks or status either. I’m 5’6 and average looking, I literally have two physical strikes against me yet I have been able to consistently find women to be in LTRs with who I am attracted to and have been attracted to me throughout my life in HS, Col…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 11:12 AM
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Eh Not getting hired in certain jobs This actually isn’t a concern for most people who have an OF as people thing. Mostly because most women who have OF’s goals are to pretty much be social media influencers and not work a 9-5. The other is that the later Gen Y and Gen Z are the ones in the workforce, and most women in those gens have sent nudes or taken them. Having nudes float around the internet won’t be a job killer as much anymore, and being a part of a large corporation I can say that empl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 10:23 PM
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Yeah. It’s the same feeling a straight guy has when a gay man hits on them. It’s unwanted, and it can be somewhat scary because they’re men too, and you wonder what they’re willing to do to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:14 PM
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Oh yeah, or when they start to insult men’s appearance like their hairline, their height, and in some cases their weight (but that’s usually attached to the two I already mentioned). It’s like looking for something to bash
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:02 PM
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What real negatives are there though for having an Onlyfans? I can’t think of any that actually are enough to not do it if you’re a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:59 PM
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Fucking exactly. It always boggles my mind that we’ll have long posts hating on women got capitalizing on their assets. It’s human nature, if there’s a demand for our supply we’re gonna fucking sell it. You take away the demand, then the desire to sell disappears. Why go though the trouble selling something that no one wants to buy? Not to mention if given the choice, just about every dude would be on Onlyfans if they knew women would be buying the content. I think it was even asked on here and …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:40 PM
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FDS just makes me laugh now, because it’s just average chicks to maybe Beckies complaining they’re not being treated like Stacies and feel they deserve it. They’re lazy, they’re entitled, honestly they are the perfect female counterpart of incels. If you took almost everything they said but replaced every male pronoun with a female one, I honestly would be hard pressed to find a difference between the two communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 06:48 PM
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I mean you’re lying about what you look like to begin with. Looks play a role in who we want to date, yes you can sometimes make up for it with other traits, but the fact is you gotta hit the minimum threshold for relationships. What are you expecting will happen? You say you’re an 8/10 and they go to the date and see you’re like a 5/10? Shit, I’d be pretty pissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 06:45 PM
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I’m sorry for you OP, I hope that you find something at the end of the tunnel. I’ve been a part of an abusive relationship who mentally abused me. I know how you feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 08:24 PM
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I mean I personally think getting a prostitute for me would be awful, simply because it’s lacking something and for me personally feels pathetic. Other people have different priorities and I can’t say they’re wrong or not, as long as it brings them joy then whatever. However, I think it comes to down to why they’re going to prostitutes? Are they going for quick sex? For therapy? For the human connection (even if it’s pretend)? To cause harm? To find some enjoyment at the expense of someone else?…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 08:23 PM
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Bruh holy shit. Dude’s kind of a scumbag
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 05:23 PM
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I mean I’m on record saying the first one, the example you’re referring to is probably me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 05:15 PM
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Sure, but again you need the looks to even qualify before social ability and charm even play a factor. You wouldn’t be successful if you were 6 foot and above average
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 05:06 PM
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Yeah really. People will pick and choose who they are nice too, and sometimes it’s subconscious to the level where they don’t even realize they’re doing it. By this logic you say that everyone has to treat everyone badly because they hate themselves, or everyone has to treat everyone good because they like themselves. That just isn’t the case though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 01:42 PM
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I was never going for the top 5%. I’m totally fine getting casual sex from Beckies and stuff. And I can tell you that it just isn’t the case if you’re short and average looking. I have never been able to have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 06:49 PM
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I think this is actually very true, after all I don’t think anyone can learn to be charismatic enough to make Nazi Germany a thing. I think with practice you can learn to hold your own in social situations, but the guy with Hitler level charisma can walk into a room and call everyone’s attention without much trouble or thinking at all. Friend of mine is naturally charismatic, chose a job on Wall Street as a broker and makes bank doing it. At his firm people are struggling to stay within the metr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 03:58 PM
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Lmao for real. Yeah some men don’t put in effort and spend all their time hoping for a miracle, but many men in fact do put in the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 03:50 PM
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Definitely in pictures I agree with this. I’ve been told many times I look tall in photos despite being 5’6. I don’t even try to do any angle work and shit, my proportions however make me appear tall provided I’m not pictured with a person taller than me. Though I think styling helps as well
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 03:48 PM
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Yeah. Talent is just something you cannot teach, you can promise you’ll work your ass off every single day and you may very well do that, but you’ll just never be as good as someone with raw talent who puts in maybe a quarter of the work you do
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 03:46 PM
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Well is he attractive physically? Because if you got the looks then none of that shit matters, at least for hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 03:43 PM
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Can’t disagree with this. You’re not in a relationship, they are. If they choose to throw that shit away that’s on them
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 03:37 PM
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My dad and mom still look young to their age of 56. My aunt who is 57 still looks to be about 37. I think my skin and hair are probably the only good features have.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 01:33 PM
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I agree. I have never had acne, I was really lucky growing up because my parents just don’t have oily skin. That being said, still care about my skin enough to take like 5 minutes out of my day to cleanse and moisturize. Then on the weekends doing a mask I leave on for like 20. I’m 28 now, and my skin looks better than other men my age that I work with, some even younger than me and I did quite a bit of partying and drinking years prior. If your acne problem however is a situation where cleansin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 01:24 PM
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We literally just had a thread about it. Tons of men on there, including me, explained that they have put in the work to become that 20% and still couldn’t get there because of factors just out of a person’s control. There was a post a while back where someone asked women what’s stopping men from being a Chad and a vast majority all conceded it was just their genetics (their height, their face). By all means you should still try because what else are you doing? Yeah I failed, but all the stuff I…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 01:16 PM
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This. I have been vulnerable with my gfs in the past, I have cried in front of them, I have told them about my mental illnesses. And the sex frequency never lessened, the intensity never lessened, the attraction they had toward me never lessened. Ya know what the difference is? I don’t just cry all the time about my life and talk about it constantly. I swear some of these dudes who are bitching “women don’t like emotions” are probably blubbering messes on the first date. News flash, every one of…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 01:11 PM
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It depends? I think of the hesitation is still there after date 2, then yeah get the fuck out of there. Date 1 is awkward sometimes, you’re getting to know each other, learn about each other, asking the same questions you two have asked other dates. Date 2 however you’re going into it having gotten to know them so it’s supposed to feel a lot more relaxed. If you feel the hesitation, or sense their hesitation still at the end of it, then you gotta check the fuck out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 01:06 PM
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That was pretty good NGL
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 01:04 PM
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Yeah, nut jobs. No offense, but I’m not really worried or thinking about the crazies. It’s a minority at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 01:03 PM
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