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not disagreeingbut again, I did mention two qualifiers. Lacking fear 24/7 is not an advantage. the only handicap I can think of is that they become unrelatable to other human beings. Which can be worked on with CBT techniques.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 08:39 PM
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But if you dont have the alarm you are more likely to take risks that end up being damaging to you. I would say it isn't as huge a disadvantage for someone who is of above average intelligence and developed a relatively well adjusted personality. In many professions people spend years training themselves to deaden the instinct of fear, to the point they exhibit a response similar to a psychopath's in the face of danger/stress.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 08:23 PM
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The only "advantage" that comes with the condition is the lack of conscience and care about morality as others understand it. I wouldn't say that is the only advantage. A complete lack of fear is a pretty huge advantage (for psychopaths, I understand that sociopaths don't have that neurological characteristic).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 08:16 PM
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you're putting an unfair amount of pressure on the person you want to get with. So you want someone with drive, intellect, passion who is also willing to compromise on those things in order to commit time to you? I respect ppl who have a calling and devote 90% of their life to a career. I admire them as friends and colleagues.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 11:07 AM
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That's cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 08:56 PM
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I think FDS gives the block advice for a very good reason though, and that's the hamstering you're trying to do now over whoever this most recent guy was. I don't know if relying on the block button is the most effective strategy. The best strategy is to learn to put low effort ppl out of your mind and continue on as if they don't exist. Something I've learned early on: if I don't have the power to ignore a person without aids like a block button I open myself up to being manipulated by a narcis…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 01:45 PM
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This is the SAME reason why men never truly leave and always orbit... AMALT? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 01:37 PM
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searching this on youtube found this quote: "Drake Told Me Madonna Smelled Like an Old Carcass" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 02:31 AM
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There was this woman who started DMing me a year ago. Hit it off on the first few days, then radio silence for a week. Returns to flirt then disappears again for another two weeks. I confronted her on it the next time she DMed with a "hey" and she apologised, stated that she suffers from severe depression, doesn't want to bring others down with her when she is in a bad place. I made sure she understood she's always welcome if she wanted someone to talk to and left it at that. This is sort of why…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 02:14 AM
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Athletes or power lifters usually look very feminine
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 01:12 PM
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Thats fair, women who inject horse hormones end up looking crazy. That doesnt mean a girl into fitness naturally turns into that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 11:09 AM
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90s she-hulk has the physique of a sports lllustrated cover model. Only reason you'd think that's gross is insecurity lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 11:00 AM
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Are you asking why some guys badger women for nudes from the get go or why guys like to have their girl pose nude and take photos as part of a sexy game? The two have different motivations
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 10:49 AM
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joe rogan grew up dirt poor and remained so till his 20s. Have some perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 10:38 AM
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I don't trust this guy. He has enough to hire actors at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:04 AM
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from what an indian friend told me arranged marriage in the modern era is not far off from a blind date. With added wedding clock. If the two hit it off they see each other for a few months they get hitched. This idea that you get a free village girl seems to be niche and something an asian dude would have to go and look for deep in their rural country
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 03:12 AM
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This was in 2012
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 05:52 PM
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and? Plenty of women are into androgynous men. Being a sexy androgyne whose popular with a bunch of chicks has nothing to do with traditionally masculine traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 05:57 AM
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Absolutely not. I wouldn't blame a woman for nuking a great marriage if she got cheated on either. Trust and fidelity are the two traits I care about the most, this "moment of weakness" nonsense is rationalising away betrayal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 03:58 AM
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I feel like that's the next big brain step for incels: Gold's Gym mass shooting, Chads only
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 01:32 AM
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It's short sighted. Let me tell you a story children, gather round: It's the myspace days. A young woman with a passion for body building decides to supplement her income by making specialist amateur muscle girl porn for a small audience. Advertised her wares with the handle K.O for her initials. She retires in the late 2000s. Cut to a few years later when one of her fans decides to approach her. They get married. The interesting part? he is a millionare CEO of an Australian Rugby league club. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 12:58 AM
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I actually have a funny example of this scenario playing out with the model retiring in the early 2010s, marrying the rich owner of an australian sports club, Karens married to his colleagues flip the FUCK out and release all her old footage in an attempt to get her divorced and shunned. I'll actually make a fulll reply with links its really juicy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 12:45 AM
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yeah right, lol I bet most of these girls are low key terrified they will end up murdererd by one "Only Fan"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 12:40 AM
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It logically follows to throw a spanner in your logical machinery: if "high value men" swallow it, accept e-girls and end up dating/marrying them instead of regular chicks, they muscle in on your action. What happens when non-cam women get ignored by HVM who find the more free spirited cam girls more appealing?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 12:38 AM
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The dealership on the other hand just got a ton of negative publicity for firing her, so I think they were the shortsighted ones. I have a suspicion.. that the kind of person who would desire and pay for a Honda SUV also supported the decision to fire the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 12:28 AM
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How can a woman, she only wants the payment not the attention. Simp attention has no value.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 12:21 AM
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The only time women are sexually dominant is to other women, NEVER men (not pretending to be sexually dominant). False. Try to speak from experience and not fantasy in the future. Most women hate rough sex, and of the ones that do like it rough, there are far, far, far more dominant women than submissive women. Submissive, kinky women are very rare. also false /u/churnthrowaway123456 The vast majority of women in the kink scene are either submissive or submissive leaning switches. Female Dommes …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 10:22 PM
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trying to be cool role model top tier men don't try, it's their regular demeanour. It's all the other men lower down the rung imitating the top tier guys who are doing it for women. Look at beards for example. In the early 2000s beards were "gay" according to beta males. Then soldiers in warzones with full beards peppered news feeds and suddenly beards are "alpha" So no, not all men do stuff just for women it's the low value variety that does.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 09:52 PM
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Important to take breaks from PPD, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 08:19 PM
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For example: not wearing makeup to appear manly (many women love men with makeup as proven by David Bowie/kpop/male celebs in general) Erm, david bowie was actively pursuing gender ambiguity, the women into him arent into masculine traits to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 08:15 PM
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Hetero men want intimacy in romantic relationships, not in friendships with the boys. No romantic relationship = hetero male is deprived of intimate interactions for the rest of his life. Id say thats damaging to mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 08:03 PM
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Ability to overcome and succeed is universally attractive. See: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/glipiw/just_how_important_is_height_really/frkmzx3/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 07:44 PM
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iliza schlesinger is fantastic. Excellent sense of humour.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 07:38 PM
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Amy schumer was incredibly funny in the bevinning... bc she was stealing jokes from real comedians (EDIT: a lot of the stolen material was from female comedians who were popular in the 90s). Once she ran out of places to steal from and started using her "original" gross out / political humour? Career death
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 07:34 PM
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Take a quick poll among the guy friends who heard his jokes and see if they think hes funny. "thats the joke!" types are not seen as funny
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 07:30 PM
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Are men inherently funnier than women? Ofc not. I do feel that some of the stuff a lot of women find funny leans more towards in-joke confessionals about everyday life. Like there was this comedian who killed with a female crowd by sharing a story about an ex. "he brought ice cream, I told him I wanted to go out, we got in a fight. He took his ice cream and stormed out!!" peals of laughter from the girls...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 07:23 PM
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Are you saying that people who did not have the accumulated experiences and abilities that make someone attractive can't course correct and work on themselves to get out of a rut? Bizarre opinion...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 07:15 PM
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You're letting the comments get to you: most anger phase TRPers are depressed loners who say crazy shit on reddit to be provocative and get a reaction. They are most likely not acting on 90% of the crazy shit they spout here. Id rank the typical anger phaser as extremely depressed, alone and crying out for attention. I give them a few years and they'll sort themselves out
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 07:07 PM
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Im 6'1". When I was skinny and didnt know how to present myself, spent most of my time in front of the PC? 90% of women wouldnt date. I dont disagree that height is a major factor but if you're short it just means you can't rely on inherited physical traits alone to gain interest. It makes your life harder but it doesnt make it impossible. If you want proof, google what joe rogen looked like at 21. Skinny manlet lol Except now hes married to a supermodel so
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 07:01 PM
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I hate the world for not telling me this in my early 20s: women are attreacted to competency and ability over everything else. That does not mean they are attracted to a job or money, they feel attraction to a man who manages to be really great at something thats hard to acgieve. Stereotypically thats a high status career in a high pressure field or sports but it could also be a man who is so good at pottery hes travelled the world showcasing his work and has managed to succeed on his own throug…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 06:45 PM
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A lot of women get into CS in particular as a safe career bet and not out of passion ime. You are more likely to find a geeky chick in the humanities depts than in CS
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 06:34 PM
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Its a death sentence if you obsess over it and let it consume you to the point you become one dimensional and cant hold a conversation on anything other than your obsession. As long as you're well rounded it doesn't matter
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 06:31 PM
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What about joe rogan, tom cruise? Hell bruce lee was short and asian and living in the 60s, still scored a tall blonde
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 06:23 PM
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change their minds pretty quickly once they realize that this means that they can't just get sex whenever they please anymore and that they can't just be sexist pigs I realise I can't just get sex whenever I please and I can't be a sexist pig to a work colleague. Haven't changed my mind on women's rights. Im nothing special, regular tech dude
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 06:20 PM
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Islamic scholars vary on the topic, but it's quite universal in Islam to distrust female testimony. Most islamic scholars today have very fascistic tendencies. The 4 witnesses islamic requirement was originally limited to cases of slander where a woman is accused of adultery. If you accused a woman of adultery you needed four male witnesses to corroborate your claim. That was 600 years ago. Islamist idiots expanded that to protect rapists basically in an effort to "protect women" i.e scare women…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 06:13 PM
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You dont have to call yourself a feminist in order to agree that women deserve freedom of choice...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 06:08 PM
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Jve seen the outcome of granting women more rights in my lifetime and compared to the generations preceding me it has been positive on the whole. My reasons are mostly selfish: I'm not part of a social elite or incredibly wealthy, more freedom for women means I have greater exposure to interesting and attractive women who act on what they want than some poor girl forced to marry bc she has no other options in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 06:02 PM
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Lolol. The Handmaid's Tale? that book is really the utopian fantasy of an idiot. Have a frigid, sterile housewife control when and where these "Alphas" have sex, even then it's only to slave birth surrogates? Incel dream! Found the book ridiculous bc the author assumed that's what regular hetero men fapped to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 01:48 AM
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If she wants it, it's not rape. yeah.. it used to be called ravishing for a reason. I think a lot of guys are so shocked that many women like rough, passionate sex that they assume these women MUST be fucked in the head.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 12:31 AM
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Men are rarely given incentives to self improve. Maybe men aren't actively pushed to improve by society but they are certainly penalised for being below average. They can't make the kind of money they'd like, get the level of respect they would want, the kind of company they'd enjoy and generally be ignored by society as failed experiments. I'd say the social and financial penalties for not bettering one's self do a way better job forcing a man to get their act together than the kind of comments…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 12:06 AM
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Spoiled probably, if no boundaries also means no repercussions when the kid messes up
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 02:36 AM
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we were limited to one hour a day, 2 on the weekends. yeah, old school parents didn't want to be your friend so they were fine stopping you from enjoying yourself for too long lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 12:15 AM
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In the 80s and 90s we had sexual liberation and were in far better shape. I don't remember ppl being any more attractive back in the 90s than they are today in the places I visit/live in (middle east, north africa, mediterranean, western europe). What it is imo: there were not as many outlets to self indulge back then as there are today. A lot of ppl socialised and took a chance at flirting with strangers just to escape the void of emptiness that was your typical internet/media/porn starved apar…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:46 PM
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I've said it a million times already: 20 yo women are NOT attracted to older men's appearance isn't there a subreddit here of young women into older men? I don't even need to mention internet fan groups, male attractiveness is different from female attractiveness. Fit older men (35-45) are a sought after demographic without needing to look 20 or have plastic surgery done.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 11:40 PM
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Hey having sex with a butter face and putting her on all 4 fours without much kissing happens ok. still: she vocalises, sweats, contracts, reacts when you slap her ass. She doesn't sit there like a fuckin lawn chair as you thrust into her as is the case with current "sex bots". So, you fail with the example you gave. Nowhere close to matching the experience with a real woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 09:47 PM
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Back in 1995, my 45 year old mom was extremely excited by the internet bc it meant she could send as much "mail" as she wanted to the family back in the old country instantly and for free essentially. People didn't need to be tech heads to get excited by the possibilities of the internet. As limited as they were at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 09:16 PM
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I was specifically talking about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 09:13 PM
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you don't have to be alone to be a minority. There was zero perceptible skepticism at the time from the wider world, that is other than the usual super old people who did not understand technology.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 09:04 PM
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some old fart who hung around BBSes before the internet went big, who cares? Even he admits it's wildly popular in the article: I'm uneasy about this most trendy and oversold community. EDIT: What's interesting is that his critique is actually very well reasoned - when you don't factor in google, web crawlers or user analytics. Which obviously didnt exist in the mid 90s. Had they never come to bear his predictions would have come true. Either way he was in the tiniest of minorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 08:59 PM
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the hottest thing about that inevitable female sex bot is the OFF switch. Amirite?! (this is my first boomer joke of the year dont kill me)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 08:02 PM
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What this means is that "own thoughts, feelings, and desires" is hackable with a good enough AI simulation. Obviously this requires a lot of future development, but don't underestimate how easily human psychological responses can be hacked with superstimuli. nah. Even when incredible strides are made in simulating human behaviour or appearance, your most average human ends up getting that uncanny valley feeling when presented with a depiction of something they are told to believe is human. The s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 07:58 PM
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I wouldn't be so certain that biowomen will come out on top obviously there's no way of telling till it comes to pass but I believe that women will come out on top even if the droids end up looking and feeling completely organic. Humans evolve and grow which gives them one feature missing from toys: they can surprise you. I think that the predicatability would kill the demand for a truly maginificant sex bot, most ppl discover that getting exactly what they wished for is not very satisfying when…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 07:31 PM
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the cyborg in the movie was a real woman tho, not an animatronic covered in rubbery silicon
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 07:24 PM
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and the internet nobody said that about the internet wth are you talking about? I was around in the mid 90s, everyone and their uncle was crazy about the internet despite not even knowing what it was. If you're talking about ARPAnet, military scientists and engineers always say things will never take off. Including the calculator hilariously enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 07:22 PM
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it won't because a doll can't stimulate and creatively engage with a man the way a woman can. In spite of all the hate angry RPers throw at women being children, they need an active female brain with the body to get off fapping with a sex bot is basically recycling all your tired old porno clips in the mental spank bank - forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 07:17 PM
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The target audience of the sex bot is not people looking for a release, it's the validation of their self worth as a human being. nope, the idea is to get off Purchasing a robot to do that is not going to make anyone feel validated. it isn't. The simple reason that sex bots won't work: sex with a robot isnt sex, just an elaborate form of masturbation. Which gets old fast if you ask any regular dude. You have the right idea but your analysis is completely off.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 07:11 PM
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This doesn’t mean that you should take the worst of a gender and use them to condemn everyone else. that's fair. I'd also add that the only one being disadavantaged by such a black and white world view is the one holding it - not the world at large
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 02:29 AM
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I don't know, both sides are half right imo A woman who is in a relationship out of loyalty (when a strong connection exists) will stick around no matter how dire things get but a woman who is in a relationship out of convenience, social advantage or peer/social pressure? I have been surprised by how nasty women in those situations can get to a partner who meant them no ill
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 02:17 AM
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Officers, fighter pilots, tank crewmen, specialists can be alpha sure. New recruits in boot camp? No, lol I don't need to be a grizzled war veteran to know that much, sorry. EDIT: and you haven't brought anything to convince me that total obedience is not drilled into new recruits as an initial step. Whether that ingrained drive to obey is balanced out by further training later on? That is another matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 02:51 AM
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My original comment was specific to bootcamp training. I'm sure your military career was very fulfilling but that's not what was being discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 02:37 AM
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what are you rambling about? read up on the tenets of recruit training in the US military: "Psychological conditioning techniques are used to shape attitudes and behaviours, so that recruits will obey all orders, face mortal danger, and kill their opponents in battle. By shaving the head, issuing uniforms, denying privacy, and prohibiting the use of first names, individuality is suppressed." "The intense workload and sleep restriction experienced by military recruits leaves them little attention…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 02:22 AM
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Just look up what rates of UK Muslims think Sharia law should be implemented. To a working class muslim sharia law means traditional muslim wedding or muslim inheritance rights. It doesn't mean ISIS beheadings. I respect your attitude of caution but you have to put things in perspective. If anything a case can be made to migrant muslims that they can practice their traditions within the legal system of the country they live in. A lot of the time radical religious leaders in europe spread FUD abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:33 PM
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that's not an ethnic thing it's a class thing. your family were probably villagers or skilled labour in their home country so held the most hardcore beliefs. A quick fix for islamic extremism among muslims in the west is to stop the inflow of poor/rural migrants from asia and north africa. I know this sounds horribly elitist but in my old age I've come to realise that the lower classes are the least adaptable in the muslim world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:24 PM
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military Bootcamp bootcamp is about stripping you of your identity and ingraining in you the instinct to obey without question. Farthest thing from alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:10 PM
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Didn't Nietzsche cover this 100 years ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 05:58 PM
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In the course of human history, a much smaller percentage of men fucked anyone. It was largely those in power you're confused. You believe that it was only the high born who fucked while everyone else couldn't. The reality: only the high born could rape, everyone else couldn't. Kings and lords had the right to rape any low born woman they wanted in medieval - renaissance europe. Rome wasn't much different. Traders or serfs could marry, have mistresses or pay for whores if they had the income. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 05:16 PM
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Clearly men can and have been living sexless lives and been very content and happy with those lives. if that were true there wouldn't be 7.59 billion of us today :) 90% of the human race's reproduction throughout history was down to male libido pretty much. Maybe the athenians and spartans are an exception bc they were majority gay or bi and viewed women as mere breeding objects... but that's one outlier. Most men in antiquity couldn't care less about siring babies at the ages of 17 - 27. It was…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 07:16 AM
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Again, this is a priorities issue. You can live a perfectly normal, healthy, happy life and never have sex. Unless you have an unhealthy obsession over sex, like lots of modern men do. what you consider an obsession is probably what normal levels of testosterone in the male body produces. Judging by your stance you're fine with never having sex again for the rest of your life if it is no longer an option? Good for you. You just can't expect the rest of the world to adhere to what you're comforta…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:58 AM
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I can definitely see how some dude on the internet making the claim that sex is a need or a right can come off as entitled or outright threatening. So let's reframe it: the social and emotional skills required for a man to experience a normal sex life are important components of a healthy lifestyle. Just like regular exercise and a healthy diet are important facets of overall health. Now, can a person live without exercising and eating well? Sure, but they will live a short life and probably spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:46 AM
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red pilled at 50... damn, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 05:57 AM
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who here can even answer that question, realistically speaking? if you were dating in the 80s you'd be at least 50 by now
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 05:38 AM
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No studies will back up women getting as much pleasure from sex as men do. who hurt you..?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:40 AM
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this is fucked up but I am convinced it's the truth: sex for men isn't about bonding, it's about excitement and novelty. Men aren't averse to bonding ofc, but I think for most it's really the thrill and novelty that gets a guy excited and wanting more. Men who have healthy sex lives are cognizant of this fact and actively maintain the novelty/thrill factor. Men who don't have that self awareness let things deteriorate and turn to porn or worse, cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:38 AM
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anecdotal but ime womens' sex drive skyrockets in their mid to late 30s, especially if they had kids in their early 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:29 AM
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tbf women have been ridiculing the beta males who tried to play this card decades before red pill theory: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/76/f4/d9/76f4d9c337af071aecf9fd9f144f19c0.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 11:41 PM
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comment section tho, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:03 PM
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if the title of the thread was good natured and not low key bitter it would have been an epic PPD inside joke ngl
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 01:35 PM
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Eh, theyll live with it. Better a manly woman than non at all? xd I'm not down with an adam's apple blowjob, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 07:30 PM
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Based on my personal observations and experiences, women often have sex, not for their pleasure, but to please their partner or because they're too agreeable to say no. I deliberately avoid women of this type. Thankfully more women are less afraid of speaking up about their own needs today.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 07:19 PM
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very few men get "tons of attention" from women anyway so some attention is about the norm for most men. Example: I'm 36 and my last gf was born in 1999. The relationship before that was with a 40 year old so I don't fit the stereotypical red pill male who would not even let his nose point in the direction of a woman over 29 - but I have noticed that my odds with women have not really changed over the past 17-18 years
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 12:17 PM
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certain physiques/faces go in and out of fashion over the decades. Perhaps you would have been a bombshell in the 60s/70s and the only men alive who would be aware of it are old dudes. Another possibility: If you are an ethnic minority in the country you're living in that could also be a factor. Older men would have lived through time periods where dating outside of their cultural/ethnic group to be taboo while young men would not have this hang up. So a girl from a different background will see…
/r/RedPillWomen31/10/19 07:59 AM
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I wouldn't say that. Other than a few exceptions women have not been active in the public sphere for the majority of mankind's history until about 200 years ago. The clue to this is in your reply: and did do most of the child rearing... and also provided the bulk of (generally plant based) food, in some societies. all domestic activities. Now women certainly owned land and ran certain businesses throughout history. We can also include the extremely unique female leaders who gained that position …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 09:08 PM
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you two are ignoring a glaring fact about life in antiquity: women were either incapacitated or outright died from pregnancy. Women couldn't hold their own in the face of that reality, unless they decided to abstain from ever bearing children and bulking up hard. Division of roles was the only sane approach in that world. The only reason women today are equal to men is because modern civilisation allows a buffer between everyday life and biological realities, it basically gave women enough breat…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 07:42 PM
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When you're hooking up in the LGBTQ scene this is not surprising but you have to agree that this is a small sample size vs. the greater population. It's good that you are sharing a positive perspective but do you recognise that many bi men have to deal with a certain stigma..?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 01:57 PM
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Maybe it's just me but the complaints might not stem from low incomes. If these guys are spending $1000s a month in bars and going nowhere, it's not really money that is the issue, no? Could be a simple case of nice guy syndrome or a complete lack of skill in the bar scene. Then again you may be referring to guys who actually can't afford to spend in bars, I haven't really dug into post histories to check.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 05:44 AM
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Regret is "I wish I didn't do it or had done it differently"... Simply acknowledging it was a bad time is not regret. That's not what she did though. She wrote a long letter meant to "expose" Aziz as a man willing to commit sexual assault. And even if it was, so what? Are people no longer allowed to regret bad things that happen to them? Nothing wrong o right about it. It merely supports the assertion that she went full blast on the guy because he didn't fit her stereotype of awkward pot bellied…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 07:54 AM
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As a chaser your viable options are not infinite. Time to link a clever clip from A Beautiful Mind! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJS7Igvk6ZM
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 07:46 AM
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She wouldn't have gone back to his place if she didn't like him at all. Plenty of reasons why a human being would enter into that kind of situation with another human being when it's seen as a kind of opportunity to make influential connections or maybe get a leg up career wise. A lot of the time they insta-regret that decision when they realise what they have to... fake. There was no regret that I could see. ‘it was awful. It didn’t feel good at all.’ ... “I guess it ended up getting really fuc…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 08:32 PM
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look, there isn't a sentence stating she wasn't attracted to him in blunt terms but reading the subtext in the account of the night it's not hard to reach that conclusion: “I know I was physically giving off cues that I wasn’t interested. I don’t think that was noticed at all, or if it was, it was ignored.” When Ansari told her he was going to grab a condom within minutes of their first kiss, Grace voiced her hesitation explicitly. “I said something like, ‘Whoa, let’s relax for a sec, let’s chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 07:24 PM
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she admitted as much herself in the anonymous letter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 07:03 PM
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Actually the photographer chick justified the whole thing being a form of sexual assault because she found Aziz unattractive. As in she was "coerced" and was not enthusiastically willing to touch that brown dad bod.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 06:39 PM
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Emma Watson showing teeny tiny tits on womens' magazine? Empowering! Big breasted english county girls showing their tits on page 3? Oppressive Feminists hate working class tits I tell you. It's time we stood up to them and championed the tits of the proletariat!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 10:19 PM
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And I think the term is ravished but me dont talky so pretty so I dunno ah you are right. English is not my first language so I do confuse a few terms by how they sound sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 11:53 PM
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I wonder about people who encounter so many BSDM followers in the course of life without special effort I had to smile at that. I have talked to people from a wide variety of backgrounds, the BDSM community is quite small in comparison. Something tells me you are extra sensitive to some of the phrases I have used, leading you to jump to the conclusion that this is BDSM related. Maybe "being ravaged by big strong men" was a trigger? Dunno, that is pretty vanilla stuff for hetero couples who are i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 09:46 PM
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As a woman who has been with women, As someone who has engaged straight, gay, bi and trans women in conversations online over the years I have to say that the divergence in sexual tastes between lesbian and straight women is much bigger than it is between bi and straight women. Lesbians from what I have observed see no appeal or value in typically male traits: roughness (whether it's in skin and body parts or acts), muscle, exhibitions of raw strength. Even the sadistic kinky lesbians I've come …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 06:56 PM
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This is a pretty weak argument that appeals to emotion. I could have made a much better one in your place. I would mention the impact of Roe vs. Wade - how legalising abortion resulted in the massive drop in violent crime 20 years later. In a nutshell: the children of single mothers won't starve without welfare. They will live terrible childhoods however and grow up to become violent criminals instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 10:39 AM
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It's not called child support in an actual marriage (?)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 02:10 AM
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you can find submissive, deferent women but they wind up expending lots of energy on others too. Those are people with boundary issues. The more submissive grow out of that with time and enough self-assessment
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 04:07 PM
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Most. Couples where the primary bread winner spends more time at work end up with the partner with less financial responsibility spending more time on household duties. Doesn't matter whether the primary bread winner is the man or the woman, it evens out. side note:- if you don't consider financial support an important aspect of child care we have nothing more to talk about since we view reality differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 04:02 PM
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So yes, I do respect unemployed women (& men). Provided she has a personality and does stuff which evokes respect of course. Something I noticed as I got older: There is a high correlation between the "respect" someone receives and how stress free their life is (or appears to be). The more you are seen as having figured it out the more respect you get. It doesn't have to be about wealth or fame either, a person who has managed to become financially independent - not needing to work under an empl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 08:58 AM
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nerds are supposedly anti-alpha yet they are makers, builders, innovators... I resent the blanket stereotyping of nerds. I'm a "nerd" who is 6'1", reasonably fit, have no trouble socialising and have deep interests in both nerdy and non-nerdy subjects. In fact most of the people I know who are nerds grow out of their awkward years by high school or college at the most. They are now either married or doing pretty well in the dating game - engineers, surgeons or analysts. At a certain point blamin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 08:07 PM
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I think pregnancy is highly uncomfortable, gross and unfeminine not only that, for the majority the transformations which take place post-pregnancy destroy any remnants of youthfulness in a woman's body (obviously exceptions exist but those women won the genetic lottery). Men have to be really invested in having children for the attraction to stay strong, men who are indifferent to the prospect of children usually are unprepared for this and end up cheating or divorcing. Not saying that it's a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 04:18 PM
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How can a woman who has relinquished the feminine imperative of motherhood still maintain her femininity to men by devoting herself to us rather than offspring and what other qualities would emerge in determining a woman's "wife potential"? For me it's having both the feminine qualities I value (submissiveness, beauty, agreeableness, loyalty) in addition to an independent spirit (intelligence, strong identity, passion) Having children is not a small "extra" to a relationship, it's a life changin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 04:08 PM
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yeah. Thing is the subreddit is 99% young guys so understandably they aren't thrilled with their current lot, hehe
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 03:28 PM
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you're missing his point, sounds to me like he was giving an example of people with hands on skills in crafting/making. Could be car engines, machining, carpentry, electronic circuits or even illustration/sculpting. There is definitely a type of guy who is only interested in consuming rather than making. They are usually soft too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 03:24 PM
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Here's why I don't have a problem with this: Life sucks for young men because it's harder to date women their own age. Not impossible but hard - the 21 year old with no confidence, living in a shared room, meagre income and no car is not living it up. Once men establish themselves in the areas that count (independence, financial stability, maturity) they suddenly find that the women they wanted to date when they were younger (attractive women in their 20s) are interested in them. For women it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 03:02 PM
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But what is the alternative? The alternative is to understand women... what is this emotional sponge nonsense?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 03:22 PM
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I am curious, if these mandatory seminars in college campuses are merely about "consent awareness" why aren't they mandatory for everyone? Surely "consent awareness" is an important concept for both genders?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 02:49 PM
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I dont think that I don't understand are you an alien? Do some human observation and you'll figure it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 07:02 AM
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I'm sure the faces of a bunch of researchers, professors and university administrators, all above the age of 35, accurately represent the beauty standards of the United States!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 04:28 AM
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Eighty photographs of individuals’ faces (52 males, 28 females) were obtained from academic web pages at the authors’ own institution. academics?? You picked the wrong study there OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 08:55 PM
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Nothing more than what is imolied - treat them as human beings
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 05:21 PM
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My way of helping men who are frustrated by the lack of the sexual life they crave, would be mostly feminism. If they treat women as full human beings, with valid feelings, full personalities and desires, just like them, their relationship both with women and with their condition would become healthier, in my opinion. Treating women with respect is the bare minimum of decency. The bare minimum doesn't get you laid. Unless you're one of these creepy male feminists who sneak a sexual harassment sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 12:40 PM
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I love Sade so this was a great recommendation, thanks OP! Trust ties into loyalty and gives women that sense of "finding home" so yes I figured out early on that it's quite significant for 'em.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 08:49 AM
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This only changed in 1984 when ad campaigns started to target them as error prone and inherently worse then men This is conspiracy theory tier nonsense. A regional US ad campaign in 1984 brainwashed three generations of women across the entire world to avoid the software sector? Sounds legit. Also software developers are the most skeptical / antisocial group out there, an ad campaign isn't going to magically set their opinion on an entire gender for 33 years straight. In addition to that the rol…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 08:26 AM
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Even in my thirties, I've been in situations when I'm bummed that a guy wants to cut ties after making his feelings for me known, OP's entire post is badly worded but he does have a point... sort of. A well adjusted woman like yourself would be bummed out and that is normal. You also would keep the whole situation private, maybe talk about it with a close friend as a thing that sucks. It ends there. There's a certain type of woman however, who would go out of her way to let everyone in the socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 10:15 AM
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Jordan Peterson needs to shut the fuck up women on the pill actually find "beta men" more attractive (ex.: here or here so how would that favor alpha men in comparison to betas?? If anything, sexual revolution only played well to beta men. so I'm confused are you snarkily agreeing with him here?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 06:19 AM
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Do pregnant women "act more like men"? OP misunderstood the statement, Jordan was talking about social freedom and personal choice - not becoming a dudebro. "with birth control women become more like men" inference being that womens' fates are not bound to the risk of accidental pregnancy anymore, gaining the freedoms men have always had.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 06:08 AM
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I'm dubious, however, of his claims that it makes women more like men he meant in terms of personal freedoms, not facial hair. OP misunderstood. At around 2:20 jordan mentions how the pill gave women the ability to experience a new mode of being beyond mother/homemaker EDIT: around 1:30 he describes how women became more like men socially, not the way TRPs try to spin it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 06:01 AM
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Asking that question is very unattractive. Another highly unattractive question: "Why do women care so much about height? What exactly is so appealing about it?" Not knowing the answer to either question belies naivety or even worse, bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 03:32 PM
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18 is a weird age to mention when discussing the adult dating pool. Most 25-30 year old guys aren't chasing high school girls
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 09:28 PM
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Are you saying you were creeped out by Ryan Gosling hitting on you? https://i.pinimg.com/736x/39/52/15/395215475a1f8ae1c3960be7891c7143--hey-girl-meme-girl-memes.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 09:10 PM
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That's not optimal for her since he won't be as attractive as the med student her own age. That is a strange assumption as the majority of women out there prefer qualities more prevalent in older men than younger ones. A rugged + successful guy at 35 seems way more popular with women than a 25 year old assistant with fresh cheeks. As long as the older guy looks like he's in his 20s he is going to do well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 01:56 PM
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women. hands down!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 09:20 AM
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Funny, for me it was the reverse. Had a completely shit Chemistry teacher. He was actually brilliant but since he wasn't paid enough he encouraged parents to sign him up as a private tutor by not putting in any effort during school hours - he just recited the chapter in the book and wrote problems on the blackboard, that's it. I rejected this form of coercion and went through the torture of teaching myself chemistry with only the high school text book as material throughout high school (internet…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 12:15 PM
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I think some of us were raised to question and buck the limits people tell us we have. I know I was. Which is why I find the current trend of blaming a lack of group X in tech/STEM on nebulous factors like representation and role models highly annoying. Growing up my science heroes were Einstein, Newton and Stephen Hawking in spite of my family being composed almost entirely of doctors (no encouragement to pursue a career in technology or physics). It never occurred to me that just because they …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 12:09 PM
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nah, it's much simpler than that. Their life sucks so they ease the pain by shitting on others in order to get a reaction. Horny internet dudes don't care about influencing a woman unless it means getting their dicks wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 09:20 AM
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Those girls that spend hours every day getting their eyebrows on fleek will never turn heads if they are not physically attractive. A lot of what goes into trendy fashion and style doesn't even register for straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 09:16 AM
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A lot of guys are oblivious to how a woman can go from apathetic/bemused to outright threatened in the span of a single comment. I blame the internet, kids today thinking that pornhub memes are endearing banter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 09:09 AM
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Just more examples of the sick ways that men try to control women. The kind of men who obsessively leave anonymous bashing comments on the posts of fat girls don't have the first clue what controlling another person is about. You're off on this one, it's more pathetic than sinister.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 08:38 AM
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Are you referring to random internet comments or the tough love friends show each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 08:34 AM
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I don't mind girls who do stuff like following me everywhere online or trying to grab my attention (as long as they stick to that) but one experience was particularly creepy: A former FWB starting a rumour about me being abusive among our social circle because she was jealous of my current relationship. I obviously never got a concrete confirmation on the reason but the timing fits.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 08:47 AM
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I get the impression that RPW encourages fighting ones nature whereas TRP encourages embracing theirs. From what I've read on the RPW sub it seems to me that the whole STFU thing is meant for advice seekers who have diminished problem solving skills and let's say, "overemphasised" communication skills. It's basically what every guy was told as a boy by his parents growing up: "stop whining about problem X and figure out a way to deal with it". Is that fighting one's nature? I see it more as an o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 02:19 PM
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that's not the fist time I've heard that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 01:34 PM
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Do you believe companies that engage in AA are at a disadvantage? Absolutely. Employees who do not advance in their career through merit and competition are not as effective as those who have. In fields where employees directly impact the quality of the service/product, where an expert employee can be one thousand times more effective than one half as competent it impacts the company's overall performance. I have to wonder if this is a loaded question though. Do you blame blacks in the US for af…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 11:08 AM
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I personally suspect that above some base level (shows up consistently and sober, doesn't slack off, at least moderately competent), average employee quality is less important than other things like organizational structure. this only applies to unskilled labour or semi-skilled labour (taxi driver, bartender/waiter, file clerk).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 10:06 AM
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If it impacts the reputation and profitability of the company? Sure This is a fact of life for companies today, I'm surprised that you still believe companies have the luxury of being choosy with who they hire when many fields are dominated by non-white, non-male professionals
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 02:20 PM
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why would they "underperform in the market" by limiting themselves to a narrow demographic. The most skilled and talented are not relegated to whatever group the employer favours.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 01:49 PM
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Who mentioned economic theory? It's very simple: an employer that excludes individuals misses out on the potential for hiring the best talent available in the application pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 01:48 PM
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I go narrow and deep vs. wide and shallow, have only had sex with LTR partners. I would just not be able to relate to a woman with an N count that high.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 09:36 AM
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You are ignoring a very important fact: an employer who actively rejects the hiring of applicants based on surface level traits is ultimately at a competitive disadvantage and will underperform in the market. Employers care more about the performance of their business than they do about the patriarchy. The scenario you are posing only works if every company in every industry behaves this way. That is too fanciful a notion to really be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 09:22 AM
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She has the flat eyes of a sociopath. Compare it to head shots of female murderers: http://www.criminaljusticeusa.com/wp-content/uploads/serial.jpg http://www.thetimenow.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/enhanced-31392-1405440787-25.jpg http://blogs.lawyers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Casey-Anthony-mugshot-300.png A guy who does not have a good sense of facial expressions and mannerisms might be oblivious to the way she looks but to me? She looks way off. 0/10 would not bang
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 09:13 AM
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weak!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 11:20 AM
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I clearly said it is irrelevant and outlined why. I have a disability in my right arm. Hell yes it makes people stare and has cost me a few dates in my 20s. It stopped being a problem once I realised that the stigma is irrelevant. Ever since that adjustment in my world view I've had zero problems dating and forming LTRs. You smack of immaturity if all you got from my response was a denial of the issues those with disabilities face.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 10:31 AM
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Is this place, the Shire?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 10:25 AM
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It certainly doesn't help the stigma The stigma is irrelevant honestly. If someone with a mental illness is judged by a potential love interest purely based on a label, they're not worth it to begin with. Those with a mental illness who have the strength and will to overcome the shortcomings that come with their condition are perfectly capable of living in a healthy relationship. Partners are more than willing to support and love them, are perfectly happy to deal with the occasional episode conf…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 10:10 AM
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may the based netflix save this great show!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 01:17 PM
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I am going to apologise in advance if this sounds unclear but this is me trying to articulate a world view I have developed over years of contemplating the existence of mankind and reading volumes of what others have concluded (this, this and this among others) Before societies and civilisations were formed, groups existed by meeting the challenges of basic survival: If we do not collect enough food, we will die of hunger If we do not remain vigilant in our defences, we will eventually die from …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 01:08 PM
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Fucking Utopia! I still haven't gone past episode five because I'm sad it was discontinued. I want to relish this masterpiece at a glacial pace.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 10:41 AM
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It is silly of you to reach the conclusion that my reasoning places all the blame for collapsing civilisations on gender identity. Saying this without sarcasm: Parse my previous post with a bit more effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 08:15 AM
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I don't have a problem with the gender/sex dichotomy on principle but I do consider the push for a restructuring of the current system a dangerous path to go down. For example Native American tribes used to categorize gender based on identity and performance instead of sex before we Europeans forced our gender system on them. You sort of answered the question for me. Throughout history cultures that had overly complex, byzantine gender and class structures were annihilated by more streamlined so…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 01:27 PM
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Klinefelder syndrome (XXY) is 1 in 500 to 1 in 1000 Red heads are like 1 in 100 Setting aside the validity of the numbers (can't be easy getting accurate figures): So intersex are not more common than redheads. Cool beans. You need to have the self awareness to realise that intersex is a (negative) genetic deformity: if it was more common entire populations would freak out about it as an epidemic and question what is being put in the water, lol EDIT: adding in hyperplasia is disingenuous, the ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 12:55 PM
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Intersex people are more common than redheads citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 12:17 PM
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then why the hell.. are you saying: I think those countries go to show how powerful a systematic withholding of sex can be. ... they need to blow themselves up to at least get some female validation in the after life. in relation to Saudi Arabia and Iran..? My comment was aimed at those countries. That have a strong economy and aren't mired in civil wars but are culturally stunted. (if you are wondering about Iran it's actually got a pretty decent GDP in comparison to other non-oil countries in …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 06:39 PM
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So Saudi ISIS secret agents?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 03:22 PM
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Rich Saudis winding up as rapist refugees in Europe..? You aren't making any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 02:13 PM
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they need to blow themselves up to at least get some female validation in the after life. erm, that's a pretty hilarious understanding of the terrorists' motivations in relation to the greater conflicts in the middle east.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 02:52 AM
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A lot of guys who are perfectly above average that struggle with this end up questioning themselves because it isn't "normal" for women to compliment men when flirting the way men compliment women. So unless the guy learns how socialisation works, how women show interest they are left in the dark.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 01:32 PM
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Have to admit that I also fell in the trap of believing I was unattractive because I didn't look like Brad Pitt in my teens. Then I got to know women. The guys here will get there, hehe
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:55 AM
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The kingdoms of ancient Nubia were matriarchal in that they practiced matrilineal succession: inheritance of property and titles was passed down through the female line. Then patriarchal arab tribes came down from egypt in droves and started marrying all the women from rich/influential families. Hey presto! Matriarchy to patriarchy :) EDIT: Hawaii is another good example.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:46 AM
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Patriarchal. Matriarchal societies focus more on the internal issues of a community while patriarchal societies are hungry for expansion. Just look at colonial Europe for a more prominent example of how the world is shaped when patriarchal societies reach their peak. Another great example is the arabian peninsula. Before Islam arabia was a matriarchal society. Women chose who to marry, could have multiple male partners and more importantly sire children from men they did not want a relationship …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:33 AM
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Well, I can't speak for women since I'm not one, but I find the double standard a bit annoying and would never tell a woman that she can't tease me if I'm able to tease her. you're missing a crucial detail: this dynamic only works in couples who do not conform to gender roles by choice. If you and your girl are super gender fluid and all about feminism you can each take the hit. A gender conforming girl doing this is subconsciously judging her partner as not man enough if he continuously keeps a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:16 AM
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yeah, a lot of the male posters here assume that muscled gay models are the gold standard of male beauty. Robert De Niro was a sex symbol in his hayday and he was neither overly muscular or possessing of a "beautiful" face.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:01 AM
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The societies that enforce the witholding of sex until males reach certain social/financial goals are in the shitter. Look at the scientific/artistic progress of countries like Saudi Arabia or Iran. They could be doing so much better than they are now with their obsession with pre-marital sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 10:57 AM
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That is some serious gaslighting... never understood why so many people are motivated to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 10:47 AM
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why not offer women the same benefit of the doubt? well, I don't blame women for the ills of the world. Without childrearing and caretaking from women, there would be NO people to begin with. those are necessary functions that are a requirement for any group of humans to survive but they aren't particularly "human" traits in that only humans have discovered them and can grasp them. Monkeys perform these same functions by instinct for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 01:39 AM
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You have such a bizarre American reading of history. Democracy can be corrupt and give you incompetent leaders. wrong on both accounts. I am neither from the US nor do I believe that democracy is a magic antidote to poor leadership. Dictatorship as a form of governance has proven time and time again to be a wildcard however. In the case of Rome it was great in the time of Augustus Caesar, not so great in the time of Commodus.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 10:35 AM
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Feminism as a civil rights movement represents women, I doubt anyone can argue otherwise. It is the kooky feminist "philosophy" where the majority of the world's women check out. So much so that many of the 20th century's feminist theories have been abandoned by radical feminists. Stuff like The Male Gaze and political lesbianism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 09:38 AM
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... true enemy: OTHER MEN, especially rich and powerful ones. Sounds to me like you are blaming men for the problems of the world OP. The reality is that tribes, cites and nations faced many varying catastrophes over the millennia. It was OTHER MEN that solved these problems. The same men you blame for holding all the power found cures for major diseases, ended wars, brought about intellectual enlightenment, lifted the world's population out of subsistence living and made civilisation a reality.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 09:31 AM
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Anything's possible but I don't see male ruggedness going out of fashion anytime soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 09:00 AM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 08:29 AM
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There is no such thing as, "Pharaonic," culture well there is because it stopped existing at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 03:17 AM
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You act as if having a Pharaoh made every era of ancient Egypt the same. Do I? Either way: no Pharaoh, no Pharaonic culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 03:14 AM
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Medieval paintings tend to better convey how the Mongols were commonly viewed by Europeans: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_elements_in_Western_medieval_art#Mongols_in_European_painting
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 05:07 PM
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? Do you mean the rise of Islam about 550 years later? no I mean the end of Pharaonic culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 04:58 PM
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sure but to medieval Europe he was brown. EDIT: Oh I see why you are confused. Medieval Europe saw all none Europeans as a mixture of brown people. They did not define "brown" the same way modern Europeans do (essentially arabs or south asians).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 04:49 PM
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not sure what you mean. To europeans Ghengis Khan and his people were a bunch of brown people from a distant land.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 04:45 PM
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"she led to Egypts destruction with her pussy lol" That sounds pretty misogynistic but unfortunately that's precisely what happened. Her ultimate strategy was to gain control of a large faction of the most effective military force in the time period - Marc Antony's eastern legions - through a relationship with Marc Antony in order to rule over both the Roman empire and Egypt with Marc Antony as her consort. Her plan B was to be impregnated by Julius Caesar in order to have a male offspring with …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 04:42 PM
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One female leader = females destroy civilizations. There is no denying that Cleopatra had a permanent impact on how women were perceived in relation to leadership after the demise of Egypt's civilisation. In the same way that Ghengis Khan had a permanent impact on how brown men were perceived by the west in the wake of the severe destruction and suffering he and his descendants have left.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 04:06 PM
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Cleopatra also led Egypt to and through a period of stability through shrewd diplomacy and strong leadership. The failures of Cleopatra are attributed more to the results of her actions rather than her abilities. The result obviously being the demise of an entire civilisation. She wasn't incompetent as a leader and politician, she just wasn't as brilliant as Augustus. The large disparity between her ambition and her abilities, when contrasted with the exceptional brilliance of Augustus and his d…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:51 PM
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is that what MGTOW claim? yikes... History has proven that many civilisations fell as a result of decadence and the focus on minor local/individualistic matters, straying away from disciplined work to maintain a large and expensive social system. Obviously that is not the only scenario, global natural disasters played a part in the demise of bronze age civilisations for example. Either way there is no proof that women have exclusively promoted decadence and the importance of the individual over …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:19 PM
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Rome fell because they shifted from a republic to a dictatorship. A string of incredibly incompetent emperors ultimately corroded the strength of the empire. Add in the rise of invading hordes and you end up with the dark ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:09 PM
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I don't agree with the MGTOW rhetoric but as a history buff I know of one civilisation that was destroyed by (a) female: https://www.amazon.co.uk/31-BC-Antony-Cleopatra-Egypt/dp/0714122742 The story of Cleopatra is quite fascinating. The contrast between Cleopatra's approach to building power (siring children from various opposing world leaders, back room politics, unstable alliances through black mail or coercion, leaning hard on her status as a deity to the Egyptians) versus Augustus Caesar's …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 02:11 PM
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Because I didn't see 18-24 year old women dating men who weren't their age. When I was that age most of the women in my social circle almost exclusively dated men in their 30s - the exceptions being 20 year old men who worked in more lucrative fields. That has to do with the country I'm in, all of us were migrants eking out a subsistence-level living working at entry level jobs. Men in their 30s who were fun and had the salary to support that fun lifestyle gave these younger women an escape from…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 02:19 PM
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Are you speaking of older or "old"? A 31 year old who takes care of himself is physically equivalent to a 25 year old fit dude. There are also plenty of guys who look younger than their age. Girls who have more expensive tastes tend to lean older as guys in their early 20s are more than likely going to be broke, so the girl who expects a night out in an exclusive restaurant won't go for the guys who can only handle house parties. In my experience the question of age doesn't really become a thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 02:09 PM
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On top of that, it's probably wouldn't be a bad idea to question in what ways society might have influenced your tastes. can't really base this on hard evidence but I've noticed that people are attracted to others from backgrounds similar to the ones they grew up with. Someone who grew up exclusively around white, black or asian people will generally find them attractive (regardless of their own race). Social status also falls into this, I've noticed that people who lived their childhood in area…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:48 PM
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Why would you be curious about the state of mind of a man who lacks self control tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:36 PM
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Males use more deadly and consistent methods. yes they do because they want to actually die. If the women swallowing a bottle of pills really wanted to die as the male suicides they'd use the same methods.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 05:16 PM
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Males are more effective in their suicide attempts than females are, uhm, that's not it at all. Females "attempt" suicide as a cry for help, they don't actually want to follow through. The males who attempt suicide have a clear plan of action to off themselves. You make it sound like females are too stupid to figure out how to kill themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 05:13 PM
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hell even if the sex was painful it wouldn't phase guys one bit. See the gay sex scene for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 03:07 PM
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Not sufficient enough to make a conclusion. The differences in sex drive between men and women are quite significant. In fact it's the biggest factor in why so many young men end up in places like TRP, not learning from an early age to manage their sex drive and separate it from the contextual reality around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 03:04 PM
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Someone else mentioned this earlier: Women (on average) have a huge appetite for sex with a pair bonded partner whereas unattached women are more lukewarm in that area. The desire or need to have sex is contextual. With men it's more or less a constant wavelength, it can be high or low but it's always there. There are obviously exceptions: women who have a need for sex as high as the most sexually active men for whatever reason (psychological make up, improved diet / fitness, higher T levels) an…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 02:51 PM
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But I also think that more women have bad sex experiences than men, which makes them more wary. Even the men who've had a lot of bad sex don't change their minds about it - reason being that arousal and the desire for sex are like a chronic low grade fever for males. As boys mature into men they learn to manage it but it isn't really an optional state of mind that they switch on when they get around to hooking up or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 02:34 PM
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By Roman standards they aren't "girls", they're women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 12:10 PM
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All women? AWALT??
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 07:53 AM
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That supports my hunch even more, bodies to fuck that can't get pregnant
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 07:52 AM
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What is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 07:51 AM
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That's great! I think I confused you with someone else in the thread who was bemoaning the whole bi situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 08:35 PM
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That might explain our differences, We don't have that much of a difference in taste actually. I prefer submissive women with assertive personalities. They are submissive to me, no one else. I don't go for low libido chicks however, no matter how assertive they are outside the bedroom. Nothing worse than a starfish....
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 07:24 PM
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Sounds about right. Only scenario I can see a bi man being open about it and not getting shot down is in the alt/lgbtq scene. Even there the bi dudes have to contend with preference and shit. The way I see it a straight vanilla to dominant male is the "default". A guy who's anything else has to employ some finesse.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 07:14 PM
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well I tend to exclusively go for the super submissive freaky types so my sample set is skewed, heh
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 06:48 PM
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because vanillas assume that bi men enjoy doing both - correcting them will only make it look like you are trying to deflect/justify. Don't know why, it's a vanilla thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 06:45 PM
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You even said at the beginning of your first reply that it's men who get off from it I was highlighting the stark difference between two dudes getting it on with anal vs. a man and a woman It can be a purely physical act with gay men, while it's more conceptual with a man and a woman (the whole domination thing)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 06:40 PM
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Assuming you're bi, wrong assumption Also I've met very few women who are interested, or can get off from anal, your life experience is limited (first thing that springs to mind is that you are religious in some way). Plenty of women out there who are into it, usually the ones who like to be dominated in bed. My current partner wants anal more than I do, I literally have to finish with anal or the night is ruined.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 06:29 PM
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even the most vanilla woman / man has certain ideas about what they want in a mate in terms of domination or submission. For vanillas a man having sex with another guy is automatically deemed bottoming. I'm sure you understand the desire of many vanilla women to be the "smaller" one in the dynamic. EDIT: It's all bout the vibe the woman gives off. If I were you I wouldn't mention the bi thing to a woman who comes off as more traditionally feminine until it's clear that you are capable of fitting…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 06:12 PM
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being anally pentrated is physically pleasurable for gay men (prostate), whereas it is mostly physically uncomfortable to painful for women gay men tend to have hairy asses. women? not so much The draw for a lot of straight men is to make a tiny female human with baby smooth skin scream under them in a mixture of ecstasy and pain - the pleasure for the women derived from being physically dominated by a larger man. you also can't get away with limp dick when it comes to anal, so there is a certai…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 06:06 PM
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I'm not. I know a few bi men who are Tops. Key word being few here, the majority tend to be subs from my personal experience. Hence my question. Male switches also face the problem of being seen as "gross" by a lot of women but that is more down to the women being submissive/vanilla, can't handle a male wanting to be dominated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 05:46 PM
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That is the wrong question to ask OP. The more relevant question: "What are people claiming to represent Feminism doing that's actually that bad?" Nobody has a problem with feminism as a civil rights movement. It's the asshats who derive a sense of entitlement and superiority out of it that are messed up. Also the ones who go too far in the deep end and consider feminism a "science" that bug most people. Feminism's original goal was the emancipation of women and the gaining of equal rights for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 05:36 PM
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simple: because they are aware that a stigma is attached to being a white knight. They may not understand the stigma but they are very aware that it hurts their prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 05:32 PM
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Of course, it begs the question, what is straight and what is bisexuality and is there any use in making a distinction between them? Straight people don't ask these kinds of questions, it never occurs to us. It's pretty binary, if you are wondering about it chances are you aren't 100% straight. I actually tried to imagine what it would be like to be gay as a kid, got nothing. It was like trying to imagine being a penguin.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 05:29 PM
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That is probably because women were ticking baby time bombs back in the prehistoric day, whereas hairless young boys were guilt free sex? I doubt it had anything to do with simple affection the way we experience it in our more open societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 05:26 PM
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ETA: the reality of prison gay, summer camp gay, military gay, frat gay, gay or pay, etc alludes to the idea that men's sexuality is more fluid than they care to admit. or maybe... that not all men are straight. Crazy huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 05:23 PM
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Suck one dick however, and you're no longer considered straight. It's not a conspiracy. Straight men just don't feel the urge to suck dick. If anything you live in a society that is willing to accept a man who isn't 100% straight, unlike other parts of the world where it's a death sentence i.e zero will to act on the urge to suck dick for fear of retribution. I would say that it is a good thing overall how things are currently in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 05:19 PM
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do you lean submissive by any chance? If so that might be the reason for them being turned off more than you being bi.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 05:14 PM
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uh huh
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 05:42 PM
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In the United States. Please provide examples of actual cases being tried in court. Not ones where things escalated, cases where someone went to jail for shoving a person in public. I have a hard time believing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 04:32 PM
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Intentional shoving would be assault and battery. In what universe? I don't know a single country where an individual can get someone arrested for shoving them. If it was a woman calling for the arrest of a man shoving her in public, I can see the guy being tried for assault due to benevolent sexism but even then it would be a bending of the rules. The same scenario with two males would be seen as an inconsequential matter. I am in no way claiming that this is unfair to men or anything like that…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 03:47 PM
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It is assault, No it isn't. Groping is a form of sexual harassment. Sexual assault has a completely different connotation and threat. Shoving on the other hand is a challenge, assault would be an act of physical harm against the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 11:31 AM
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A quote I read in a book that I really liked as a kid which sadly I don't remember word for word but paraphrased: "Each of us has a bit of greed in him. A father has a greed for the well being of his daughter. An athlete has the greed to excel. An artist has a greed for truth. Only one kind of human has absolutely no greed within them: the fundamentalist. That is the most dangerous kind of all."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 12:59 PM
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If groping in public places is sexual assault for women then it must mean that shoving is aggravated assault for men. honestly, people need to get a grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 12:54 PM
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But selfish doesn't automatically equal bad either. I am sick of hearing how being selfish is a bad thing. Being selfish can lead to bad things (harming others to benefit yourself) or amazing things (chasing your ambitions leading to the benefit of another person, a community or mankind). Mankind's greatest achievements were done by individuals with the goal to achieve, not for recognition by others or their praise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 12:44 PM
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I have friends comfortably into their 40s who are actively trying to get pregnant. That is the crux of this so called higher birth rate, it's not a sudden mutation in human biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 12:39 PM
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Let me guess, U.S based studies right? Men tend to spend more effort in getting a higher education in the rest of the world (though I doubt guys in the U.S are all high school level). Either way I've never come across a man who actively sought out a woman with more degrees than him. Sounds kinda irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 05:03 PM
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I invest in quality shirts, suits and shoes but I rarely think about it. Occupying yourself with that sort of thing is a waste of time imo In terms of appearance I just make sure that I don't smell, that my nails are clipped, that I'm staying in shape and have the barber sheer things down using a no. 3 blade every three weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 05:00 PM
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men are now hypergamous. They tend to marry women with a better education than themselves (and such marriages do better). This sounds highly anecdotal. Ar you sure you're not just talking about your mom's friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 12:50 PM
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Companies react to the performance of their best earners without exception. High achieving employees who are also fathers rarely scale back in the workplace, they don't expect their employers to treat them differently just because they have kids. The women who choose to follow this track either by not having a family at all or finding a male partner willing to stay at home are in a very small minority - that will naturally reflect on the statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 02:07 PM
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it claims that economic choices made by women are significantly impacted by societal expectations and gender-based socialization. I have a hard time believing this claim that I only hear coming out of the west. When a person is passionate about a field or career path nothing short of deliberate steps to bar them from pursuing their goals stops them from chasing what they want. In some cases even that is not enough. I come from a very traditional islamic African country yet both my sisters pursue…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 01:52 PM
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where the hell is that from? looks like a graph put together by a tumblrina, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 01:33 PM
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In general conservatives are hardwired to be racist, sexist and homophobic. maybe red necks but aren't politicians usually WASPy types from ivy league schools?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 01:17 PM
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What good does it do One year into my first job I discovered I was being paid a third less than the fresh out of college junior dev who was a recent hire because she was pretty. Her salary wasn't massive (web developers with one years' experience make as much as janitors where I am) but being handed a "decent" salary while I was expected to suffer as I paid my dues was a shock. You may not stomach the men who give you an advantage but in some scenarios (work, court, a speeding ticket) that conta…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 12:53 PM
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As an example think about how much it would ruin any conservative politician's career if he turned out to be transgender or gay. In the US? I find that hard to believe unless they were anti-gay or far right.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 12:49 PM
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If she wanted rough, dominant sex, she could get it without paying for it. had to respond to this. The number of men who are capable of doing that and doing it well are in a very small minority. The only reason there aren't many women out there paying for it is because naturally dominant men don't go into prostitution. Now you can argue that a male escort can fake it but I doubt many women would buy that, a lot harder to pull off than rote physical acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 12:45 PM
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James Spader is famous. fame is not generic. What traits led to the cult following he has?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 09:27 AM
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The gigolos aren't mentioning the women wanting them tied up etc. heh, it sounds kinda obvious: the women in this scenario don't want to do any work, the just want to be treated like princesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 03:42 AM
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That music switch is a weird one. I find that metal gives me a huge boost in endorphins, never listened to it to be an edgy edge lord angsting hard at the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 03:35 PM
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it's not generally always going to work out like that. People in successful relationships get the hang of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 03:26 PM
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The ones who know how to be a team know when the right time is to speak up and when the right time is to let the other work it out. Otherwise it's panicky whining. Even when the other speaks up if necessary, it's never "convenient" to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 03:19 PM
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It's never convenient to be told the hard truth. It is necessary however.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 03:10 PM
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Fair point but if you noticed what I actually said was that you lose a point for not being <25%. I have to admit I would have pegged the girl at 25% to be at a much lower percentage. Why I don't care about numbers, only what I can see/touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 01:10 PM
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They want her submissive when it suits them and not submissive when it doesn't. Interesting. I need a partner with the ability to call me on my shit when I am fucking up but I also don't want a spastic who is grinding gears on a daily basis. I do the same for her. Is that convenient? I don't think so. It's called being a team.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 12:52 PM
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This wasn't so much about male prostitutes but about what women want when they go to them. If they were all paying for rough, hair-pulling, throat-choking, butt-slapping, face-spitting, aggressively-dominating sex - then it would be a tick in rp's favour. The "rough dominant guy ravishing the girl" fantasy doesn't work when the guy is essentially a servant. That fantasy goes hand in hand with the male being responsible, able to protect and able to take the lead. It makes perfect sense that women…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 12:21 PM
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adele and sarah silverman don't seem to be facing this problem. I'm sure you could bring up random articles or internet comments about their appearance (those are always going to exist for everyone) but the general consensus is that they are among the best in their respective areas. It's my observation that women start to get judged on their looks more frequently in the media when: they are average or worse at what they do. there is controversy surrounding them (hillary clinton, sarah palin)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 04:16 PM
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Yeah BPers don't agree to the premise that women have it easy in life I wouldn't say that women have it easy. However it is still the case that men are seen in society as the providers, leaders, protectors while these are merely a few of the many options that are open for women to pursue without being seen as underperforming: A woman can be a CEO or a kindergarten teacher with very little social criticism on her life choices. That puts more pressure on men to succeed whereas success is more abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 04:06 PM
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you forgot HIStory
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 03:53 PM
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The simple answer is that girls are indoctrinated into systems and concepts that are meant to train them in the norms and dynamics of the society they live in from a very early age while boys (were) either told to go and play outside or left largely to themselves, letting the group dynamics within their circle of friends teach them how to interact with the world. The boys who don't have friends who play sports and discover the world outside the domestic home end up socially awkward nerds. The wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 03:15 PM
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huh? You did not understand the message within the quotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 09:51 AM
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Aren't they sort of fucked if they're 5'4? I can't make the claim that it is in any way easy for a 5'4" man to succeed in the sexual marketplace without looking like a fool but in the end every man has to look for inspiration and work towards a better future for himself. Danny Devito is 5'2" for example and he managed (admittedly later in his life) to find success. I also think that making an effort to defy your circumstances breeds confidence. Even if the 5'4" guy fails to become a rich actor, …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 12:07 PM
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I chuckled while reading your reply because I started a thread talking about this very topic (no shaming or anything like that, totally positive sentiments) and guess what the bulk of the replies were like? Complaining and whining, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 10:54 AM
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Only reason sex robots wont work is cause they cant give validation. That can be programmed in! The real reason sex robots won't work is because plastic gives off this funny chemical smell after you rub against it too hard :P and seeing as man give a flying fuck for your personality... something tells me you live in an area with a lot of wealthy men. Either that or you have a difficult time relating to men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 09:11 AM
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The answer isn't for thirsty males to become more like women, it's for thirsty males to grow up into actual men i.e those who don't base their self worth on whether they will ever get to have sex regularly with a willing female.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 08:58 AM
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A few points: Being an engineer or programmer isn't remarkable in itself. Sure you need a certain level of intelligence to do well in these fields but if you aren't driven or talented enough all you are doing is implementing theories and practices learned from others. There have to be other facets to you beyond your dedication to your work. Communication is extremely important. You also have to have something of substance to communicate as well. Having other abilities or talents doesn't hurt, fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 12:52 PM
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I don't know, I think both of you RPers and BPers are way off (at least the ones who claim that women go for one type or the other due to surface traits). In my experience women pay attention to the value system of a man and more importantly what his drives and motivations in life are rather than whether he's a sensitive snowflake or a belligerent biker dude. In regards to the OP's view: A big rough dude with a harsh exterior wins over most women when they discover an intelligent, multi-faceted …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 12:30 PM
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None that mattered. You're actually wrong on that one. Google the rights women had in ancient egyptian society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 11:42 AM
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affect women disproportionately, yes, your personal choice tends to affect you disproportionately.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 03:51 AM
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oh. Well there is healthy aggression and there is roid rage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 04:09 PM
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negative aggressive yeah... no
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 02:16 PM
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Men show their age much worse because they are less likely to dye out the greys and wear makeup to cover age spots. It's simple: maintaining male attractive traits for a man is a much simpler process than maintaining female attractive traits for a woman womens' attractiveness depends on what men find attractive mens' attractiveness depends on what women find attractive Most women find an adult, strong male attractive. That includes a fit body (nothing crazy, just no beer gut and skinny arms), a …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 04:15 PM
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interesting question. I would say that for the "average" woman (the one who is pretty much a working stiff who has achieved nothing that makes her stand out from the rest of the working stiffs on this planet either financially or artistically) things are way, way easier than it is for (average) men. When we are talking about the very successful/high achieving or extremely talented, the situation is flipped. Cream of the crop men have it way, way easier than their female counterpart. EDIT: and it…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 03:02 PM
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Under normal circumstances, very attractive guys don't go around pestering women after an initial rejection Exactly. Attractive men are secure enough in their chances that they won't escalate a simple rejection into an all out scene. Attractive men who are also aware of social conventions will not put themselves at a serious disadvantage if things don't go their way. The one time I've had an embarrassingly negative reaction from a woman by just saying "hi" was in college. I was so socially obliv…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 02:01 PM
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wait are we talking about communication now or are we still sticking to narrative?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 11:56 PM
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Assertiveness = (out of the self) define what that implies as to me it sounds like the complete opposite of assertiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 11:50 PM
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the assumption that women see the outside world as non-female because french women use "il" to refer to a stranger is a bit of a stretch. EDIT:- More to the point: I presupposed that it provides for and limits how we are constituted as subjects. Females who happen to be French or Spanish do not have a limited ability to place themselves as subjects in a narrative because of their native tongue. The mind adapts and assigns.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 11:27 PM
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there are various, even conflicting ways in which different men narrativise their sexual life: To use the three word format from your OP: probing, assertiveness, claiming the opposite: probing, submission, following Your "narrative" merely evokes a bodily function to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 11:25 PM
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I see, so you meant dominate as in being more prevalent, common. In that case the experiment was useless as it favoured the mechanisms of language and not the bias of the tested subjects. In french someone saying "il" is not necessarily thinking of "male" or conversely not thinking of "female". Could be both.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 11:16 PM
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Masculine dominates How are the pronouns assigned to "unidentified" and "stranger" being male a sign of dominance? I thought dominance was all about the sun and god being identified as male, not strangers and unknown entities...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 11:10 PM
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Read what you've said: the quote sounds like an incel, or someone who is unable to achieve ecstasy/ejaculation due to the unwillingness of the Other. Read what you've said. The quote sounds like an incel, or someone who is unable to experience sexual pleasure beyond ecstasy/ejaculation in the hand due to the unwillingness of the Other lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 11:06 PM
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She conducted an experiment where she gave her subjects a noun (e.g. enfant) and asked her test subjects to use the noun in a sentence as a pronoun (il or elle). The majority of both men and women consistently chose "il". maybe because in the roman languages where pronouns and descriptors of objects are gendered, the masculine pronoun is used when the gender or identity of the subject is not known...? This is some serious over-analysing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 10:57 PM
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The man interprets his sexual life in terms of erection, ecstasy (going out of himself), and ejaculation (into the other). This is the most incel-sounding thing I've read in a long time. I must be missing something, otherwise this is pure nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 10:52 PM
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Nothing to add but say that the first video was kick ass, nice find /u/GridReXX
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 04:11 PM
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The egg is much more valuable that's a flawed premise though. Your eggs are valuable to you because you can't produce a million of them a day. They are not valuable to men in general, only the man who decides to have kids with you. Men on the other hand are unburdened by the pressures of making use of their sperm before it dies out, they have until their late 40s to decide when and with whom to fertilise.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 12:47 PM
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that's a switch though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 04:23 PM
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granted there is such a thing as hard limits but there are various things that don't fall into the "hell no" category which might also seem strange/new. Stuff like candle wax, or blind folded tasting play with food and ice. Fairly innocuous activities that might get a hesitant no from a partner before it's explored.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 07:05 PM
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sure. I gave a reply that is relevant to your point here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5ynxro/why_are_womens_fetishes_mostly_passive/desxa74/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 07:02 PM
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To answer your question: I avoid a situation like that by being careful who I hook up with. The kind of woman I'd start something with wouldn't even think of that as a possibility. On the crazy off chance that a woman I'm with wants to try pegging, I would let her down easy. There is no possible scenario under the sun where I would warm to the idea of getting pegged, lol Like I stated in my reply to /u/Justapasserby557, my question was not about whether she gave anal a try or whatever. It was mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 07:01 PM
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Tbh I've never considered anal or butt stuff (rim jobs, for instance) Oh yeah, I distinctly separated butt stuff and other experiences in general since you made it clear that it's not for you. Limits are to be respected in all things of course, I was trying to see if there were things that you hadn't thought you'd enjoy or even thought were complicated/awkward that you ended up enjoying with the right partner. The point being it's alright to at least explore the possibility and not to take a fir…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 06:04 PM
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lol, didn't notice the nick. Going to answer your question later, kinda busy atm.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 04:51 PM
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Would you like to get penetrated up your ass by your girlfriend? you're missing the point. Answer my question, never been introduced to anything by a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 04:18 PM
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you aren't looking in the right place. I wish I hadn't seen how common it is in certain areas of the internet...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 03:21 PM
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That study doesn't reflect my personal experiences and those of others I know from the interwebs. I am pretty sure the study wasn't skewed in any way, wouldn't be surprised if it reflects the general norms in Quebec. It's just too small a sample size to be applicable for the entire world. If I had to give an estimate from anecdotal evidence I'd put women who are dominant or willing to switch roles at closer to 10% of the global population, with a similar percentage for men who lean in the opposi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 03:18 PM
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Perhaps it's just the jealousy speaking out of me though - while women can feel comfortable in such a role, as a man I would be afraid of being a "beta" and losing my appeal to a woman, not allowing me to exercise such a behavior. you can go seek out a dominant or switchy woman who would want to put you in that role. Not saying it's going to be easy - very few dominant/switchy women relative to the general population - but if that's what you really want it is out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 03:07 PM
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Here's a pretty surprising discovery I made by delving into the kink underworld: the VAST majority of men in the kink community are either submissive or outright masochistic. Most kinky feminists are submissive and aren't too happy about the explosion of Femdom (mostly because they get pestered by a giant swarm of socially awkward sub males).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 03:04 PM
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a reflection of our society desperately wanting women to feel feminine and men to feel masculine. Maybe but I feel it's more due to the internet affording all of us the ability to talk about subjects that are so taboo it's almost impossible to discuss in more traditional social settings. The result being a lot of freaks discovering each other. That may appear as if kink is more popular nowdays but really it's a matter of it being discussed more online.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 02:59 PM
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And "roughly play" can easily mean some light slapping or spanking, which is what the women in porn overwhelmingly claim to like, and seeing the prevalence of rape fantasies you need to calibrate your expectations here. Rough play does not go up to rape level for 99% of the female population. this general trend to submissive, passive behaviour seems a little weird to me First off you have to observe women. Get to know them. You will hear about why it's good to feel small with a larger, stronger …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 02:32 PM
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It's not about "letting". Women are curious and enthusiastic about their partners. Depending on their threshold and how you sell it, the chances of success are usually not that low. EDIT: If the girl thinks you're a weird pervert after you have honestly shared what you find beautiful in a certain act, no harm done. You go and find someone who is more compatible with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 02:12 PM
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Nah, butt stuff is off limits. It grosses me out I wish the female members in this sub would clarify that not every thought or opinion is absolute. Assuming that you had considered anal in the past and found it not to be for you, I am sure that there are other activities you would have never thought you'd take part in but your opinion changed due to a positive experience with a caring partner? What I mean is that our sexuality evolves, a lot of men don't realise this and think that when a girl s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 02:07 PM
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I must be a super lucky unicorn then. Anal was third item on the table in my last two relationships. Not going to discuss my current relationship but I ain't complaining ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 01:54 PM
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From watching a lot of mainstream porn aaand that's how you got to your hilariously inaccurate conclusions. Protip: porn stars are paid to say things that appeal to the consumers of porn, take it with a grain of salt. The large majority of the world's female population tend to lean straight and submissive, that is correct. For the vast majority however being submissive means being handled by a man, a bit of roughly play and maaybe a toy or two. All of the acts you mentioned (degradation, beating…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 01:50 PM
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I was just surprised to see so many who prefer "missionary". Well, I didn't say that missionary is all or most of what we do. heh
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 03:10 PM
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So can muscles be an indicator of sexual orientation and who they are trying to attract with them? Or are there multiple factors necessary in order to feel a gay vibe? Musculature alone won't make me conclude that a man is gay or that a woman is a lesbian. Mannerisms and bearing might clue me into their orientation though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 01:15 PM
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I used it as an example, mainly because I know quite a few people with BDSM leanings and the desire to partake in the act isn't particularly unusual for my friends in Domme oriented relationships. I'm honestly not sure why it gets brought up here. Personally, I don't enjoy being the passive receiver in bed because I have worked hard to maintain a healthy male body and enjoy expressing the physical aspects of my masculinity with my partner. Which works for us because she would certainly not enjoy…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 12:42 PM
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I think if someone already knows they don't enjoy or have trouble with certain positions, then they wouldn't do the more extreme versions. So it doesn't mean they are close minded. Glad you cleared that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 12:23 PM
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I don't see how my definition precludes this. Your definition implied to me that you deem an open minded male to have no prior consideration or opinions on particular acts and roles, whether it fits with his personality or interests: He's nonjudgmental of different positions, including male-submissive ones, and is willing to purchase toys for both you and him. Reading your other replies in the thread has clarified to me that you were referring to a close minded man as one who is dismissive of ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 12:20 PM
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This is going to sound a bit BP but ... eh That a man needs to be an alpha CEO/social butterfly in order to be noticed by women. Sure those things definitely work but that's like saying the key to success is to have a billion dollars - not a helpful way to get there. What worked for me was communication and making sure I maintain myself enough not to turn into a jobless blob who can't live on his own. The maintaining part came first but the learning to communicate part was what led to my success…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 01:27 PM
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Hah! Rough sex can mean many things but I am sure you understood that I was speaking of the PIV variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 01:14 PM
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I'm not going to entertain the guy's opinion as it's straight out of The Book of Incel. However, anecdotal evidence has led me to conclude that even the freakiest dominatrix level women like some rough sex every once in a while. So there is something to be said for the female desire to experience male dominance (even if it's controlled and on their terms).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 01:00 PM
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I don't think so, but that's because such an activity can cause permanent bodily harm. It can be done without causing permanent damage, when enough time is spent acclimating the body for the size of the "foreign object". It's called anal training. Don't google if you are squeamish, lol Having said that, do you think it's close minded to say that you would prefer not to participate in this "training" after you have been informed of the steps necessary to ensure your safety?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 12:36 PM
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I've slept with a lottttt of men and maybe like 3 or 4 would have had a problem with me occasionally putting them in handcuffs or using light restraints (usually b/c they had been sexually assaulted in the past). selection bias. You go for guys who are more submissive or at the very least willing to try anything once. I'm not even knocking you for it or anything, think about it: if you agreed to hook up with a guy you knew beforehand was strictly a male dominant (in the bdsm sense) what are the …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 12:26 PM
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I've seen more than a few commenters say that they are not the type to take submissive roles or enjoy anal play/sex via their female partners. What does a preference (or non-preference) for sexual acts have to do with open mindedness? Not all sexual preferences boil down to the physical reaction of pleasure from sensation/stimulus. Regarding your edit: Some people prefer a broad approach, they love switching up roles, positions, acts, feeling every sensation they possibly can from one end to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 12:19 PM
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why would somebody do that unless they wanted to break up? It would definitely be weird if you just blurted out "my ex was this big last time I looked at his thing" but there are times in a relationship where each partner is comfortable enough with the other to share anecdotes about their past. People like sharing intimate stuff with each other after a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 11:55 AM
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Wouldn't matter to me as long as the woman wasn't obsessed with that guy's penis size. Then it's a non-starter if it's vastly different from my own. From the women I have been with I get the impression that penis size to them is a matter of difference in experiences rather than grading on a scale (as long as it's not freakishly small or big). They enjoyed certain aspects of men with a certain size, others of a different one. One of my earlier partners had a boyfriend with a smaller 4" penis, she…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 11:44 AM
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Older women for better or worse have more certainties about what they want from a relationship and how they see their role when sharing a life with a partner. If the older woman has reached conclusions that are healthy and has developed the skills to maintain a balanced relationship, she is a better partner than a young woman who is still figuring life out. If the older woman has reached conclusions that are dysfunctional from a lifetime of unresolved issues/bad experiences/wrong choices, she wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 11:23 AM
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I really think if we educated teenagers about how wrong that is and the consequences they are risking we could help end those type of environments. lol... the guys who do this aren't doing it because they think it's okay. They're doing it because they know it's easy. Teaching guys who do this already that it's wrong is teaching them what they already know. "Teaching" the other 90% of the male population who do not condone taking advantage of incapacitated girls is just plain offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 02:23 AM
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Why would I need to try it out if I already know I won't be happy? This is why I don't usually hang out with conservative people even though my relationship is pretty traditional. I've learned fairly early that the traditional male-female relationship dynamic works because there are men and women who desire to be in that dynamic, not because it is somehow the superior system. There is no such thing as "learning to like it", you either like it or you don't. Conservatives trying to proselytize oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 06:15 PM
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"Gotta make the drool flow boi" - Young Harkonnen noble, Dune
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 04:37 AM
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OP also fails to recognise that men in traditional relationships work very hard to learn from past mistakes and bad decisions. That is another thing that women respect in a man who leads this kind of lifestyle, he is always mindful to improve on himself and ensure the relationship remains healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 12:04 PM
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then she leaves him. That doesn't mean she stops desiring to be in such a relationship. You have to understand that this kind of dynamic has an appeal to many women out there. Otherwise it would have died out when women were emancipated.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 12:00 PM
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The wife didn't really make that decision, he did and as such he has all the power and makes all the decisions. It will be quite a revelation to you when you discover that a vast population of individuals out there - men and women - feel drained by needing to make decisions at all times, at work and at home. For many couples a traditional dynamic where one partner leads is a great relief (assuming it is healthy and both partners generally understand each other).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 11:48 AM
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Having the final say means that the man also has the ultimate accountability. Men who lead that kind of traditional lifestyle understand the importance of heeding advice from a partner who knows more about a subject than he does and to delegate rather than micro manage. Bulldozing will lead to disaster in such a dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 11:44 AM
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what makes it special is not the sex. It's if she feels connected to the guy or not. Period. I agree with this completely. However, it is not always readily apparent to a man in the beginning of a relationship that this intense connection is growing between him and his woman. It usually becomes apparent that the connection has tapered off at tepid when it is too late to back out easily from the relationship. I think this is what the "great RP fear" rhetoric is attempting to articulate. If the co…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 09:16 AM
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A social butterfly with a high paying job is not automatically seen as powerful by (many) women. From my understanding of women who are attracted to powerful men, "power" in a man is denoted by strong character, self sufficiency and a strong sense of responsibility. Plenty of blue collar men living quiet lives who are getting attention from and are in relationships with women. This type of woman likes the fact that a man is capable of overpowering her. The man's capability signals to her that he…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 08:55 AM
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if she posted in a facebook group that might not necessarily be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 02:10 AM
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I would suggest that most guys are like that when it comes down to it. you'd be surprised. A lot of men can feel sexual attraction based on mental/emotional compatibility alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 05:38 PM
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A feminine thought process? Disagreeing on the premise that women and dogs are at the same level of maturity and want the same relationships with men isn't something that only women do yeah that's not why you come off as feminine :P
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 05:38 PM
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Interesting premise but you fail to factor in how the other qualities of the women in the list affect their attractiveness. For example I gave Amy Lawrence a low score (that nose!) but considering her professional field and interests, I can see male football/soccer fans rating her much higher than I did based on compatibility. I agree with you that Amy Lawrence probably wouldn't get randomly hit on in the street but I highly doubt she has trouble getting noticed/approached by men who are aware o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 04:29 PM
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He's a dude. You can stop fantasizing now :p lol it's not about fantasising. /u/BiggerDthanYou has a distinctly feminine thought process from the posts I've read.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 04:18 PM
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you didn't answer the question :D
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 01:08 PM
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via WorldVision I give homeless people money & cigarettes that's charity not getting in touch with a person directly. You aren't looking for homeless people in abandoned warehouses to give them aid. They set up a means for you to give them charity without needing to directly seek them out. You are naive to think that all men help women out from the kindness of their own heart. Millions of men do, that is not disputed. Many men also do it with ulterior motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 01:05 PM
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Jesus. Not everything has to be about sex. if the males who helped knew the woman or her family, then sure you are right. If it was a random group of drive bys asking to PM for help it's probably about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 12:31 PM
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A woman's very existence in a relationship is dread. It's because both he and she know that she could walk out of the relationship at any time, and replace her current man with one like him or better, in less than a week. you are making the assumption that the qualities found in a good man are generic and inter-changeable. That is simply not the case my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 12:19 PM
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aren't you a chick?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 12:14 PM
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If by confronting you mean calling out the woman in a disagreement: your mistake is assuming that women consider men in a sexual context as consistently and as often as men do women. Doesn't work like that. If by confronting you somehow mean asking the girl out for a date: well no shit more attractive humans are better received....
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 12:12 PM
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1) 9 2) 6 3) 7 4) 6 5) 8 6) 8 7) 4 8) 6 9) 6 10) 9.5
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 12:06 PM
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100% agree. This is on the orbiters, not the woman. She is free to do as she wishes, it's the pathetic orbiters who enable her and allow themselves to get taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 11:48 AM
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What is less obvious is that women desire relationships less than do men: women have greater desires than men for friendship, as reported by Simon Baron-Cohen. Women also have more emotionally intimate friendships than men, and may derive a greater level of satisfaction from friendship than men do. Everything you're saying clearly points to women preferring and wanting a strong long term connection with a person they trust. Relationships kinda fall into that category so... :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 11:37 AM
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If a woman was just fuckable for one night and then you were disgusted by the sight of her after that there is no such thing, it's inconceivable to me that a man can get hard in the moment of truth for a woman he genuinely finds disgusting. A lot of men just don't like commitment and responsibility hence the prevalence of one night stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 11:31 AM
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that is very black and white thinking. You're right that there are guys like that out there, is that literally the only variety of misogynist in existence ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 10:19 PM
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My type has less to do with looks and more to do with an overall life philosophy. Having said that, my preferences have evolved over time and with more experience. When I was in my teens/early twenties I focused more on the physical aspects and didn't have any specific qualities I liked in a woman other than "chill". Without getting into too many specifics I will say that a man's preferences evolve over time as he appreciates qualities in women that are not readily apparent on first sight.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 03:11 PM
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I don't see how any of the following are intrinsically linked to whether the man is a misogynist or not: He will return the favor in sex He won't think of a foreplay as a necessary evil He won't think satisfying your partner is demeaning He won't have the need to constantly dominate you He will be more open minded about trying new things Sexual preferences are unrelated to world views. I'm not for misogynism or defending misogynists but this OP reads like a tumblr post.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 02:58 PM
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until men give up [...] they won't ever progress. That is what I hear whenever feminists talk about men's issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 11:16 AM
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You seem to enjoy explaining simple terms, good for you. Working at a supermarket is by no means a form of hard labour.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 03:55 AM
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How is it not manual labor? Technically, sure it can be considered manual labour, but that's like saying a middle school science teacher is a professor. When someone uses the title professor it evokes a certain segment of educators, likewise when manual labour is used it means hard labour in construction or farming to most. Not stocking bean cans in an air conditioned supermarket.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 05:40 PM
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if being a hard working businesswoman did that, imagine what real back breaking work would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 05:37 PM
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the inconsistency of movements, weights, sizes, durations etc. do not compare to a proper training regimen. In fact it is detrimental to your health to only rely on your job for physical fitness, unless you are a fitness instructor.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 05:37 PM
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yeah, exercise. A steady and sustained workout regimen. I have a relative who started out as an architect, then set up a business in the 90s. She spent a majority of the time being hands on in the first fifteen years, overseeing sites four hours a day in addition to driving to various suppliers clients and so forth, as well as raising four children and doing most of the house work. While she was very active within the context of a businesswoman and home maker she never worked out. She ended up w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 03:30 PM
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lifting heavy objects randomly does not constitute a steady workout regimen.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 03:20 PM
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wait, what? Are you claiming that women do not have lower bone density than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 02:32 PM
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Oh, I said this in another comment but it works here too: I used to work for the USPS doing package handling (the really, really heavy stuff, bulk tires/car parts, large electronics, aquariums, etc) and I ran into similar attitudes. A lot of it is social conditioning but there is a kernel of truth to it: women have lower bone density than men. Carrying out manual labour in your 20s is fine as a woman but over time it would lead to complications down the line. At least that is my reasoning for of…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 12:23 PM
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And I've seen desk jockeys complaining about how hard it is to have to reload the photocopier. that is not a valid complaint, from any human being. Does not negate the fact that manual labour has a specific meaning. Stocking shelves is unskilled labour sure, but very few would consider it manual labour (apparently feminist marsupials mostly).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 12:15 PM
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Not everything we do in life/for our partners is about exciting them. See, the language women use is very different from the language men use. Let me give you an example: Woman: "if a man cooks/cleans everyday and likes it - that would be a huge blessing. It could make me feel happier about our relationship. I'd seriously love it." vs. Man: "if a woman has kinky sex with me everyday and likes it - that would be a huge blessing. It would make me feel happier about our relationship. I'd seriously …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 12:07 PM
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And yeah, implying that your cleaners don't value their time like you do makes you sound pompous. I value my time over the expense spent in hiring a maid A maid values the income derived from time spent earning over free time having no income whatsoever I value my time over the expense A maid values the income over her time It is the same for me with my job and anyone else actually having a job. We value the income over our time, otherwise we wouldn't be working. Why is that so difficult to comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 07:28 AM
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But either way it's probably better than not doing it. well, they should certainly stop doing it until they re-adjust their outlook. If a guy brushes his teeth obsessively in order to get laid, the few days of stinky breath are worth it in the long run if it means he is able to understand that brushing his teeth should be done mainly for his own health (and to be a decent human being in general). It's not the act that is the problem it's the habit formed from erroneous, harmful assumptions. Can'…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 08:12 PM
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I can agree with that. Generalisations can be helpful as a starting point but taken as gospel? That leads to complicated issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 06:35 PM
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Well, alright. Since you have shown that you appreciate how not all healthy couples (and pods if we're gonna be inclusive) follow the same dynamic, we're cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 05:53 PM
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fair enough, the way many here open the conversation leads to a "WTF" response but come on... when I walk into this sub I am not expecting rational conversation :D What I mean is, I assume that the frustrated party (BP or RP) usually is omitting many details in their initial outburst, so I prod deeper rather than have a knee jerk reaction. Sure, PPD is billed as a debate subreddit but I feel that the form of debate being carried out here is aimed at bridging gaps. For all groups involved to gain…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 05:47 PM
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One of us doesn't defer to the other, We differ in that you conflate mutual respect with neither party deferring to the other when in fact all healthy relationships include mutual respect, whatever the power dynamic. I guess I am getting the vibe that your idea of mutual respect is way too narrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 05:35 PM
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hm, that doesn't tell me if you work abroad for extended periods or not. In any case, I've found that people who haven't gone very far from where they grew up tend to have different expectations regarding work/life balance. People in my social group usually sacrifice the stability/comfort of hometown life in order to achieve life goals by the time they hit 40. That could entail becoming very specialised in a medical/engineering field (never ending certification/training/publication cycles, not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 05:28 PM
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That doesn't mean same for everyone and everything, but it's treating each other as equals. you lost me at that point since treating each other as equals does not necessarily mean a tit for tat rigid uniformity of roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 05:13 PM
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I made a simple factual statement about my own life. That lead you to asking series of questions one after the other, in what I imagined to be a higher and higher pitch. Once someone gets super defensive about things like that I lose interest. It's not avoidance, trust me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 05:08 PM
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I am curious about something, have you travelled for work for an extended period of time outside your home country?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 05:04 PM
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Sounds like my statement regarding my own life has left you self conscious about yours. That has nothing to do with me so keep on spinning in your own head.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 05:02 PM
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see, this is the kind of response I'd expect from such a topic. What I keep seeing in the subreddit however, is this extreme defensiveness from bp'ers whenever a red piller brings up the point that men who are too nice/supplicating end up losing out in the long run. The way they phrase things may not be "socially appropriate" but most of the time they have a valid concern regarding this issue. Yet I see it being shot down time and time again, as if they are somehow insane for thinking that havin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 04:59 PM
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being able to cook/clean hardly means you're subservient in any way shape or form. telling that you jumped to that conclusion. Maintaining a household is no longer a gendered activity (hell, bachelors have maintained their households from the beginning anyway) but you missed my actual point: men who cook/clean to curry favour and get a "reward" from a female are being subservient. It is not helping their cause either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 04:43 PM
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I'm not rich, I just have different priorities. My time is too valuable to waste getting the house cleaned, so I pay someone who values the income over their own time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 04:40 PM
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I wouldn't be as attracted to someone who needs a maid. It's mutual, women who are into males doing chores when there is no practical reason for it are a no no for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 04:38 PM
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TMI dude, TMI also if you thought 4 videos was too much, you have no idea...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 03:21 PM
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A lot of people in that situation would likely fall into the 'so what's wrong with them' trap. I personally feel that the onus is on the guy to suss that sort of shit out. It's as much his fault for being too nice upfront as it would be for a girl who puts out on the first date. First impressions are everything. If the girl being discussed in the video has already lost respect for him it's almost impossible for him to gain that back. It especially gets worse when others tell her what a great guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 03:12 PM
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wth lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 03:11 PM
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or just get a maid. Regarding home cooked meals, I tend to choose wisely. Can't have a household with two take out freaks ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 03:10 PM
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I'm not sure I would agree on cooking and cleaning. in the context of pleasing a woman as opposed to a lifestyle choice I feel that it fits.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 03:00 PM
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why does it have to serve the purpose of being exciting? that is what many inexperienced men think keeps a woman in a relationship. Hence the slew of sad sacks who focus on being subservient as opposed to actually being exciting in a relationship. As for being a functioning human being, I prefer to earn enough to comfortably pay a maid three days a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 02:58 PM
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if a man cooks/cleans everyday and likes it - that would be a huge blessing. It could make me feel happier about our relationship. I'd seriously love it. Context is everything. I'm sure many women would "love" it if men cooked and cleaned all day but it is irrelevant to what a woman finds exciting (unless we're talking about the dominatrix type)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 02:17 PM
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yeah and I think when gestures like: sending flowers hand written romantic post cards cooking/cleaning are mentioned as a positive they sound great to women as outsiders because to them these are usually thought of as one off memorable occurrences. When it's a daily thing it just leads to massive loss of respect on the side of the woman for various reasons. I'm not even RP and that is just an obvious fact of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 11:14 AM
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the US is unlike most countries in that it has a massive immigrant population. It's nothing like Japan for example, so attractiveness can't be compared to countries that don't have an influx of people from all over the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 06:39 PM
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If you want to start a pissing contest: William Shakespeare, Homer, Virgil (I could go on) It is silly of you to try to prove that women dominate literature. Women and men have made important contributions but it is a fact that many more names are male than female simply due to the fact that men have been doing it much, much longer. That was not my point. My point was that men are not under represented when it comes to great works of literature, in spite of it being a trope that boys can't read.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 07:18 PM
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if a girl struggles with math (as many boys might) she might convince herself it is because her female brain is 'defective'. boys have been told constantly that girls are better at grammar, composition and prose. Hasn't stopped men from dominating English literature. Your argument smacks of defeatism. When someone is good at something, they don't suddenly lose their ability because of what they hear on TV.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 05:43 PM
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read the comment, saw link, expected hardcore punk rock. Disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 05:36 PM
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Men are very, very uncomfortable with women who are more aggressive, more ambitious (that is, who do not suck up to the top man like Ivanka does), more sexually liberated etc. sounds like you don't go out very often...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 05:35 PM
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"i'm with HER" doesnt really appeal to everyone. "Make America Great Again" does. My conclusion is that most Americans are neither racist or misogynist, so all the gender/identity politics must have come across as needless browbeating. They are hurting when it comes to employment opportunities however. Can't trump an offer to solve the economic crisis by virtue signalling. In the end "Make America Great Again" is a more unifying message than "Let's tick a gender equality check box for the histor…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 04:46 PM
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Do you have any idea how long that shit takes? Yes, because I did it. Man the fuck up ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 04:27 AM
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You have no idea what you are talking about. It is sad to see how defeatist some of you are. You really believe that you can't win unless you cheat. BTW, not a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 04:27 AM
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what..? We are not talking about career success here. I specifically mentioned "socially or romantically"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 04:25 AM
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Sure, it's basic TRP. I'm glad you pointed this out because so. many. damn. guys on TRP expect "taking the red pill" to mean following a ten step how to RPG levelling up guide then whine that nothing works.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 02:33 PM
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I think this is a great sentiment, but you're discounting how introverts think and function. Oh I'm not. I am an introvert myself, I was that guy many years ago. That I lived that experience (and had to overcome it) is probably why I didn't touch on the fact that being a loner doesn't automatically make you a loser. It is a hard fact of life though that you need to surround yourself with a healthy network of friends to get anywhere socially or romantically. Many introverts convince themselves th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 01:01 PM
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They're incels, how the hell would they know what good sex is like?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 11:18 AM
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The key concept there is independence, that is what I consider as the most masculine goal. my thoughts in a nutshell. Sex is the ultimate validation, for men who are not accustomed to choice or don't have the self esteem to lead a life that empowers it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 10:15 AM
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If feminists want to uphold the image that women are wonderful and that men are the monsters then why do they like a movie that shows the dark side of women? One word: lesbianism. Feminists have a huge hard on for fucked up lesbians because it reinforces their belief that society fucks up women. Even a murdering raping lesbian is a victim!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 07:39 PM
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She did (gain weight). I encouraged and helped her through 14 months of diet and fitness training. 55 lbs lost so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 07:30 PM
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If I watch QI and memorise the fact that the Earth technically has two moons or the Spanish Inquisition always gave 30 days notice , I can use that as an ice breaker In fact Alicia Keys' boo did just that. skip to 4:07
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 08:03 PM
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Einstein had six mistresses in different countries
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 06:57 PM
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They won't go for Stephen Hawking. didn't he bang his nurse? That's a bad example btw. I know a chick who has a major crush on Stephen Hawking.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:52 PM
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To use an analogy, by your logic money is not attractive in a man because some rich guys are frugal and do not show off in fancy cars. Quite obviously those guys are not going to be picking up girls with their wealth. But that doesn't mean wealth cannot be considered attractive in other circumstances. That analogy isn't accurate. Men who have attained wealth through business or an exceptional talent in a major field tend to be known within their social circles. They get attention from women by m…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:52 PM
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Intelligence is more than just the acquisition of data. It is recognised in the speed of processing facts, assertions and situations. If you don't display your speed of processing (intelligence) in a conversation how do you expect it to be factored in?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:44 PM
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no, I am saying that women are attracted to intelligence as long as it can be displayed. A genius level physicist who stammers and mumbles, or goes off on a spergy rant about some obscure theorem isn't giving a woman much to work on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:37 PM
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You are misunderstanding what women mean when they speak of intelligence. A deep thinker who cannot make a woman think cannot stimulate her mentally or otherwise. The STEMlords at MIT who have mastered communication, who can engage another human being, are in the 50% that aren't virgins. That is what they find appealing, not idiot savant levels of specialisation in Maths or physics related fields.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:29 PM
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Your reaction has to be more cultural/social than instinctual. I don't know, my attraction to sexual dimorphism has very little to do with fashion trends. Not saying it's instinctual but it sure as hell isn't fluid.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:03 PM
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Then there are the women who grew up in working class families then went on to become successful and wealthy, who realise feminism is of no use to anyone who is uninterested in hand outs.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 04:34 PM
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I'm sure it is. Fact remains that many fall in my camp on both sides of the slash.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 07:40 PM
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To me it is, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 07:37 PM
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if a man is interested in pleasing another male by sucking them off it's submissive. This whole "an act is an act" thing is nonsense to me. We can agree to disagree on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 07:27 PM
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it's gay bro. Totes homo.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 07:21 PM
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I didn't say ALL submissive straight men experiment with males, I said straight men who have homoerotic fantasies are within the group of submissive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 07:18 PM
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about sucking dick?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 07:17 PM
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Simply because straight men who don't have submissive fantasies won't have an interest in experimenting with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 06:39 PM
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Most straight men have had some form of homoerotic experience. That might be true for submissive men. I've never had submissive fantasies so really can't relate to your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 03:17 PM
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that's not what I asked. I am referring to organisations finding factual criticism threatening, not think tanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 06:48 PM
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where to start? google it and you'll see the many accounts of her speaking up on the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 06:47 PM
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a conservative organization which will not be threatened by any negative thing she has to say about feminism. I have to ask, why would feminist organisations be threatened by a member who makes factually backed "negative" claims relating to trends among men and women? Why would a feminist organisation be threatened for example, by the thoroughly proven assertion that men and women make different life choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 06:24 PM
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Can you point me to an example of a feminist (who isn't, like, some rando with a blog, but someone who has published books or articles in mainstream feminist publications) who believes that women are morally justified in committing perjury off the top of my head? Jessica Valenti. She has published "stuff", so maybe doesn't qualify. Seems to conflate the right of the victim to be heard with it being okay to openly lie in court. Because rape culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 06:18 PM
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like "thinks sexism currently exists" no reasonable person thinks that sexism, war, poverty or class don't exist. A "crazy" SJW feminist is someone who believes things like: Straight white males can not experience sexism. (FYI: I'm not white) Females do not have agency in today's society. A woman falsely accusing a man of rape is morally justified in committing perjury. So you brought up someone who isn't completely bonkers, still. That whole diatribe against women who find confident men attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 05:19 PM
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I took the time to read the article and honestly it's a combination of generally held conventions: Just as women who refuse to play the role of sexual object often fail to attract male attention, “nice guys” who refuse to play the role of sexual aggressor typically fail to attract female attention. and naivety: “Nice guys,” on the other hand, are rebellious, at least in one sense: They buck the system and refuse to reduce themselves to the predator stereotype. It is time that we begin to recogni…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 04:54 PM
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Julia Serano Can you post an article of hers that shows how her views go against SJW rhetoric? Side note: I was expecting a list that named at least 15 young notable thinkers since this was an opportunity for a feminist to show the movement in a positive light.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 04:17 PM
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Lisa — who calls her lover Snugglebear yep, it's a fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 02:12 PM
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This doesn't make her more attractive, though. I'm 6'1" and I find her height to be one of her best assets. For a legs guy tall chicks are catnip.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 09:43 PM
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I think that if we refused to have sex I'd just move on to a sane woman who knows how to verbalise what makes her tick.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 05:48 PM
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I've only come across this once. The python github clusterfuck: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/26k5la/django_replaces_masterslave_terminology_with/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 04:28 PM
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If my opinion shuts down the discussion, the other side is not trying hard enough. Why would I care what a billion gays and women think of how I conduct my personal life? My point of view is simple: Straight men don't give a shit what the group thinks, they focus on living their lives how they see fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 04:19 PM
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sure, she has a right to her opinion. Doesn't change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 04:16 PM
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groups are irrelevant to a straight man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 04:07 PM
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Because women don't like sex. dude, you have no idea what you're missing out on. Sure there are frigid starfish out there but the ones who actually want to get fucked, man. I can't shake mine off with a stick she wants it so bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 03:09 PM
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Likewise, I've seen men who say they bang women all the time without bothering to help them orgasm, or refuse do the things she says will make her orgasm because it "takes too long", and yet these women keep coming back for more. Gold diggers. Eye on the prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 03:01 PM
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Ah. It's hard to tell since I've come across people who think this way with all sincerity!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:47 PM
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that applies for men too. In the early 70s being a doctor or engineer was a high paying job in the developing world. Today it pays less than a taxi driver. Again, supply and demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:46 PM
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A physically unfit, unskilled, untrained ballerina has no meaning whether she "defines" herself that way or not. Certain roles need to be lived up to not made up as one goes along.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:14 PM
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or why feminine jobs are valued and paid so little. I guess that's a topic of debate... but it's a waste of time imo. We all know why some jobs have lower salaries than others - it's because the rest of us aren't convinced we should pay more for the services those jobs provide. It's not a gender debate, it's a supply/demand one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:12 PM
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Gender is a society construct. Except for the 0.01% of the population that is trans, so which is it? I have noticed that a lot of the men and women who think this way are projecting their own confusion regarding gender onto a world view, as if everyone is as confused as they are. Or rather they have adopted it through the cult of feminism, usually not an original thought they had on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:06 PM
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It's not about tearing Marilyn down it's about trying to drag themselves up to her level. Saying Marilyn is hot, and plus-sized, means saying plus-sized can be hot. yep, it's misdirection. Like the clown make up and eye liner the obese seem so fond of.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 06:34 PM
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the 80s was a strange time, the androgynous stick boy look was pushed relentlessly as the ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 06:32 PM
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However it is still victim blaming when you use that as the reason she was raped or a person was robbed. It's victim blaming if the authorities don't pursue the rapist because of the victim's actions. It's not victim blaming to educate young women (that is, not the ones who had this happen to them) on the importance of situational awareness. A lot of young women are emulating what young guys do without considering the consequences. A guy who wakes up after a black out with the knowledge that he …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 05:22 PM
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Not All Feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 01:58 PM
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If I find out after we had sex, yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 12:29 PM
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I will not befriend those who would rather evangelise than listen. That is my one limit. If they enjoy a good debate and are open to alternative ideas, I'm down for a friendship. As for relationships, I have very particular needs in that area so someone with a different value system would be incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 09:29 PM
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sounds like communist propaganda. Die under a bridge dirty commie!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 09:23 PM
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BURN!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 09:20 PM
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I don't consider those attractive but they do register as "young". In any case I'm not super attached to tits, that girl has a pretty face so she would be highly attractive to me if she had great legs to compensate for the droop.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 07:26 PM
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Nobody gives advice like that. It's tumblr hysteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:35 PM
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none of the "tips" you listed are sincere or even realistic. Don't go out at night? because the big bad wolf is hiding in the woods?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:26 PM
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You know things like "don't wear slutty clothes" If I had a daughter I would teach her situational awareness, self defense and the importance of trusting her instincts. I highly doubt that the advice fathers are giving their daughters is "don't look like a slut". Well, outside of tumblr "testimonials"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:18 PM
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my brother reconstructed the bones in a hand that was crushed flat by the tyre of a truck, as an example :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 03:32 PM
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right but she isn't bio-engineering the fetus.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 02:42 PM
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I remember having this discussion with you a while back ;) A woman is free to define herself, she is not forced to by nature. The least intelligent, imaginative, unambitious woman out there can just go get married and pump out babies. Built-in life purpose. A man who does not strive to define himself, who does not seek a purpose in life is just wasted air.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 02:38 PM
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when they need men, when their place in the marriage is secured by society and not the man's satisfaction, there is no passion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 10:57 AM
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My response was to: Which is why many argue that monogamy [was] for the benefit of men. It was, essentially, instituted by the patriarchy. It was for the benefit of society, not men OR women. Men still benefit way more from the deal. Essentially that monogamy was invented by the patriarchy because it was a way better deal for men. The kind of monogamy practices in earlier societies had nothing to do about individuals. It certainly did not benefit men: to have either no choice or a very restricte…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 08:31 AM
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As opposed to no sex at all or very little? Yes. Also, you're assuming coerced or transactional marriages rarely lead to passionate, rough sex. That is not an assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 09:16 PM
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Men still benefit way more from the deal. no man benefits from starfish sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 09:04 PM
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How important? It's mandatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 08:52 PM
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Aren't young women like me the ones who ought to be attracted to these old men? No idea what you're talking about. Many young women are into older men, many aren't. There is no "ought" in the matter, it's personal preference. In regards to how common it is, the same cannot be said for older women who look their age. Men who are attracted to old women are in the realm of the fetish it is so rare. and apart from the potentially slightly higher sex appeal of a very good looking old man, I don't see…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 03:48 PM
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George Clooney's wife is not very young (the idea that older men can easily slay young pussy is largely a myth) she seems old to you because you'e way younger than her. To a man Clooney's age she's young. The myth part is funny. Jon Hamm must be swimming in the myth of his imaginary admirers. Old age is old age for all in terms of sexual attractiveness you don't seem to understand that what attracts men to women physically, all ties to youth. Take Amal Clooney: she's 38 but physically can compet…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 03:35 PM
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sure, a guy who lets himself go with age isn't getting any of that 'male privilege' when it comes to sexual attraction. For men who do take care of themselves, the rugged dignified look is appealing to a lot of women out there. Take George Clooney for example, he may not have the same pull he had at 35 but there is a large subset of the female population who find his look attractive (including his hot young wife). When it comes to women old is just old. No way around it. Side note: the older men…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 03:22 PM
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if I was offered a wish that granted me world fame and a legacy that lasts a century on the contingency that I only have three years left to live, I'd take it. You forget that living long means your entire world passes you by, nothing is familiar anymore, all your friends are dead, you are pretty much living in isolation, you have no purpose in life... I don't get the desire to live a hundred years of insignificance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 03:02 PM
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Hillary Clinton; Angela Merkel. some aspects of their status appeal to me as a male, a lot don't (physically invisible to the opposite sex, not being seen as having any vitality, pigeon holed into a conservative "sterile" role etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 02:57 PM
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I simply cannot understand this logic. Why would anyone want five more years of dementia (or any of the ailments that come with age)?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 02:54 PM
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I'm perfectly happy as a man. I get to define myself, I am respected for it. What more would anyone want? 'male privilege' is simply a warped world view of neurotic feminists who still believe it's the 1950s.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 02:16 PM
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Pretty much everyone understands the difference between fiction and reality. as I stated in the thread the real problem isn't that men can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality, it's that they are spending way more time being passive than active participants if porn is their "hobby".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 02:05 PM
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excessive porn consumption conditions you to be a passive observer vs. an active participant. It also kills your motivation to fulfil your needs by trying to go out there and find someone to have sex with. Not only do you end up not pursuing the skills and know how to make you a good lay, you end up stuck in the rut of instant gratification that leaves you unsatisfied. Passiveness has a real, physical effect on male libido and bodily performance - we aren't like chicks. Working on and improving …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 02:03 PM
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It's a fuck or be fucked world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 01:50 PM
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I always suggest for these people to become femboys who want to be pegged. FTFY.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 01:42 PM
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relationshits I can sense the pain, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 09:11 PM
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nagging is never a sign of maturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 08:31 PM
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Because most people don't challenge themselves. I would add that every one of us cannot reach a perfectly objective assessment of ourselves. We need a mirror to show us what parts of ourselves we need to focus on. That is the role a supportive partner plays.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 08:30 PM
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curvy has been warped to mean obese in this tumblr age so if you are 50s era curvy you are considered anorexic and in need of a burger.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 06:16 PM
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Body: Curvy looking for: Athletic Now, I won't say that is "too much", we all have preferences. I will say that as a guy who is in decent shape I would never exclude a woman out of hand before I got to know her (except for the obese, they need to shape up). Stating physical appearance up front like that is tacky, I don't do tacky.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 06:14 PM
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This is why we don't talk about Fight Club.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 02:16 PM
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In TPE the woman will *complain* if she has too much control. She doesn't want to be stuck in that situation to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 01:42 PM
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The woman is in control in the BDSM. BDSM isn't some "secret trick" that unlocks all the power or whatever. It's part of an overall relationship dynamic. A guy who doesn't have the necessary abilities to be in control will not be in control - BDSM or otherwise. Plenty of Doms who are topped from the bottom out there. Some even complain about partner abuse (lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 01:39 PM
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'she was crying because I was anal fucking her too hard and it was so hot' he's doing it wrong. This is a bullshit premise. Men who are into extreme sadism and mock rape are a small minority. They are also highly sought after by like minded sick fuck females. Win win for both! Put it another way, the sexual sadists aren't stalking you in the night, they have plenty of followers. You can remove the tinfoil hat now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 01:33 PM
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but we were driven away by the sadness. I don't mind mild burns or scars etc., but severe chronic depression? I'm out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 05:48 AM
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what of it? EDIT: I didn't ask the question seeking advice or anything like that. The question was asked to get people to share. Knowing the women's perspective will prove useful to the members here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 04:25 AM
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Nope. I go one step further, I picture my hypothetical date without make up. Ridiculously applied foundation is a dead giveaway. I've found that women who are into fitness and healthy eating tend to have great skin without putting in a lot of effort with skin care products.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 01:48 PM
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That's different than spending a bunch of money on dinner and a show or whatever and then expecting sex afterward. That kind of pressure isn't sexy! I'm lucky that my girl knows me. Surprising me by planning around a fantasy I've talked about offhand months prior is way more satisfying than a generic "romantic dinner".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 01:37 PM
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Where do you guys get off thinking men are always in the mood or a short turn away from it? I don't know about everyone else but for me, being offered a surprise sexy adventure is a lot of fun. I encourage it by going along when I'm not in the head space because I know if I turn it down one too many times my partner will stop trying. I'd rather be pleasantly surprised (even when the timing is not right) than never receiving these kinds of gestures. It's endearing to see my partner's girlish exci…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 01:21 PM
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it's cool. I personally don't get a revenge hard on when women are down, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 01:07 PM
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I guess you're trying to give us a perspective on how it feels when women tell men they're not in the mood for sex. Nah, I just want to hear honest opinions from past experience. Offering yourself in that way, working to present yourself in the best way you can, it must make you feel vulnerable.Then to be rejected, it must suck no?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 01:02 PM
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I stop taking direct initiative when I know he's sad for this reason. yeah, I've learned from experience how much of a big deal this is. I'd rather work up the energy to enjoy the moment than lead to *that*
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 12:54 PM
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most women won't say weird shit like "We already have men's studies, it's called SCIENCE"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 12:22 PM
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men who don't pop out aren't necessarily ugly, I pointed out other factors beyond appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 10:28 AM
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what? no
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 04:33 AM
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My understanding of the creep factor is this:- A phenomenon where a woman, when approached by a man either in a socially inappropriate setting (interrupting her lunch with her parents at a restaurant for example) or when his appearance/approach is completely unattractive, starts to act as if he should be noticed. A rough example would be an emaciated janitor with a noticeable skin infection on his neck getting closer and closer to a woman trying to convince her to give him her number. If the wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 01:42 PM
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Total amount of labor should be equal. Not necessarily. I have a high stress job with varying working hours (can go from 40 hrs / week to 96 hrs / week depending on project size). I pay a maid to do all the house work since I need the down time to be able to function at work. There is no such thing as arbitrary equal labour. If I married a woman who was depending on me to support her painting "career" where she's at home all day I would expect her to balance that out by helping with household ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 10:01 AM
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If the guy is working 60 hours for 40k and the wife is making 100k working 40 hours she should do more of the chores. If the 100k job is more stressful where the wife needs down time to be able to continue working to the best of her ability, she shouldn't be doing more household chores - especially considering the fact that her income is more vital to the household than the low paying job. It shouldn't be about tit for tat, it should be about balance. This is something a lot of feminists don't g…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 09:54 AM
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On the tests that the women were reminded that women did worse than men, the women performed worse than men. That is amusing. I do not share your belief that anyone who is intelligent enough to ace a maths test (man or woman) is so ridiculously impressionable they will fail miserably the instant they hear a meaningless anecdote. If that was the case the gullibility should be addressed, not the stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 09:46 AM
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For joint decisions, most people are flexible enough to determine when/if they should take the lead, or hand over the reins to the other person. It's rarely just one person who leads all the time in relationships, but rather each partner has his/her own domain, and they take turns depending on different skill sets, and what the situation calls for. The only distinction between your kind of relationship dynamic and one where power dynamics come into play is the decisiveness of the dominant partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 09:03 AM
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people like that deserve the death penalty... getting such a light sentence for such a terrible crime pretty much ensures this guy will roll the dice and continue to rape more minors once he gets out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 08:46 AM
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I disagree, men who enjoy taking on responsibility, are willing to put in the work to stand out and have their own way tend to be in the minority. The average man prefers to blend in with the group.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 08:33 AM
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wearing t-shirts at all times and occasions just screams "never take me seriously"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 11:28 PM
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So on evenings when I'm not with her I just have my girl take photos of herself when I am not able to be home.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 09:11 PM
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My social group are also at an age where we don't have the entire day just completely free for us to fart around at home. If you had four hours of free time in the day what would you rather do, initiate a sexy situation with your girlfriend or hide in the bathroom with your phone and jerk off to porn? Also from the general conversations I have had with my friends over the years not getting sex was never an issue that was brought up. When you have what you want you aren't going to fantasise about…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 11:59 PM
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Same reasons guys do it from what I've heard women are more interested in what the actor is doing to the chick than what his scrotum looks like. As in they are excited by the scenario, not just looking at naked bodies. Not the same reason but comparable. They wanna get horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 11:48 PM
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I would say that is the case for the majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 11:45 PM
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A funny thing about deal breakers: you can only have so many before you become completely unapproachable to anyone reasonable. Having petty deal breakers usually means one doesn't think things through. Even when a man finds it of incredible importance that his wife take his name he would show understanding and patience, make her understand why it is important to him. Many times women will change their minds if they understand the significance to the other person, that they are doing an important…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 10:18 PM
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Right. The story behind the wealth matters as well, I am sure. A millionaire band member from Fallout Boy probably has more luck than the billionaire CEO of a tobacco company.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 10:06 PM
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that sounds like addiction to me. Or it could be that they are stuck in the pattern of passively watching vs. making experiences happen irl. I don't know one friend in my social circle who would rather watch porn than get busy with his girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 10:01 PM
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It's a crutch boys and men who have no other outlet use. Once a man is able to have sex with real life in the flesh women he quickly loses interest in porn, unless it's for a contextual reason like researching a certain act to pull off with his girl (and usually that's not the generic hardcore porn). Interestingly I've come across women who start to have a huge uptick in BDSM porn consumption once they discover they have a preference for it. Make of that what you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 09:55 PM
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I remember seeing this MTV rap special long, long ago where Redman was describing how women would just push their naked bottoms in his face and against his crotch. He was completely bewildered when recounting it too. Said something very similar to what Trump said: "they were buck ass naked under their skirts, they'd let you do anything!". The difficulty with talking about this topic by anyone here is that I am positive no one in this sub walks in the circles of rich celebrities shelling out tens…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 09:33 PM
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Women are typically bad at setting up boundaries, so they will continously strive for more power little by little. that only occurs in dynamics where the roles are not well defined - say in a marriage where the man has slacked off and let his role as leader slowly be replaced by his wife's. In "alt" relationships where it is clear that the woman is taking on the dominant role, she learns to reign that bad habit in, otherwise she loses her place as the dominant partner. The characteristics of hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 09:13 PM
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hence why I believe that personal responsibility is the cornerstone of dominance. Glad we cleared that up :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:59 PM
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I agree with this as it matches general trends, just wanted to point out the caveat in case others dismantle your argument for not stating it. You do have a point and you are aware there's a caveat, so there should be no need to discount your point of view as false.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:57 PM
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lol at dick pics. The minute a guy sends a dick pic he's lost 300 dominance points.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:42 PM
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I have to disagree with you on this if we are talking on a macro scale. In traditional relationships where the woman does not *prefer* to be the leader, you are absolutely right. There are different relationship dynamics out there though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:40 PM
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If this is true, then why do many RPers say that women can't be leaders in their relationships? I don't support that argument so can't comment on it. Anyone has the potential to be responsible for their actions, whether they are alpha or beta, man or woman. when you are taking the lead, there is no "potential to" - you have to take responsibility for your decisions and actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:36 PM
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just generally agreeing with whatever a girl was saying - "you're so right!" - even when I know more about the subject. I'm embarrassed by it to be honest, it was very disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:34 PM
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why don't you ask others if personal responsibility is a universal trait among dominant men or if it's a "tacked on" thing? It may not be the case in all matters but on this one I'm right.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:32 PM
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This is a tacked on piece to a definition and sounds like a personal thing that you are into. then you are not dominant. Personal responsibility is the cornerstone of dominance and leadership.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:15 PM
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OP, you haven't touched upon the most important aspect of dominance: taking ownership of one's actions. A dominant man may make bad decisions, everyone makes mistakes. The difference between responsible dominance and irresponsible dominance is the man's ability to recognise where he has made a mistake and work to understand and eventually remove the decision making process/actions that led him to that mistake. That is the difference between a dominant male who succeeds in maintaining a years lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:11 PM
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I don't see how an edge case necessitates taxing away half the entire population's income. Your example won't account for a large percentage of the population, does not need billions poured down the drain to support women in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 07:52 PM
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Only the vulnerable ones. Feminism advocates for them to have access to them without having to suck cock in return. taking care of yourself and having your own income is called being an adult. Or does feminism agree with TRP that women are children? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 07:13 PM
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The problem with "behaving alpha" is that when you lack the alpha status you can end up falling farther than where you were. not all men who possess naturally dominant traits are "high status". Unless we are talking about more than a flashy car and a high paying job.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 07:00 PM
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This ties to what we are saying regarding our modern situation because feminism advocates for the dismantling of a system which allows men to get resources without sharing them through taxation. this sounds like the view of a class that has no ambition or drive to accumulate their own resources. The female friend I know who owns and runs an agency at 33 (who happens to have hired seven men under her) certainly is not concerned with "men [getting] resources without sharing them through taxation."…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 06:57 PM
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that's not gender specific though. More a rite of passage towards adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 06:46 PM
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yep. It doesn't occur to them that they are not the best their partner has every had - she's choosing to be with him, so he must be winning. that's where our views differ. A man who has standards isn't worried that he's getting sloppy seconds when considering a woman's N-count, he's thinking about the woman's own value system and if it meshes with his. So in that sense "high value" men do consider N-count, it's just that they don't freak out if N is higher than 2. The consideration is not out of…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 06:39 PM
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what you are stating is true only when it comes to the personal limits of the man. All men have limits, a guy who is fine with a woman having had 5 long term relationships will balk at a woman who has had 20 multi-year long relationships with different men. So to CYV: just because a man is fine with women having an X amount of N-count doesn't mean they don't have limits or that certain women raise red flags for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 06:32 PM
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Like I said, a LTR isn't always possible at all times.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 06:14 PM
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A Man: Is comfortable with responsibility. Is not afraid that hard decisions will alienate him from the group. Is comfortable existing outside the group when he is doing what is right. Is not concerned with pleasing others, pursuing the approval of others. Endeavours to improve himself and those close to him. Does not see himself as superior to others. Does not shy away from hardship and suffering. In fact he relishes the opportunity to take on challenges and grow stronger. Is not concerned with…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 06:13 PM
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If the man convinces his partner that his extra work is temporary, that it's something he will change because he considers the relationship important the crisis will be averted. Not only does it show that he thinks of her as an important part of his life, he will show that he is assertive enough to live in the outside world on his own terms - that he is a valuable enough employee that he is heard when he demands balance in the workplace. Obviously that is pretty much near impossible if the man i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 05:57 PM
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"agree with a woman even if you hold a position you can easily defend and she will love you for it" hands down the worst advice I took to heart in my teens. That doesn't make you endearing, just makes you look weak willed. Followed that advice for a semester in high school before ditching it completely and never listening to friendly advice again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 05:52 PM
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From my experience problems start creeping up not because the guy got busy necessarily. The real issues start when the guy assumes that everything is perfectly fine when he's working extra hours and not doing anything beyond informing his partner that he won't be around, or when the girl assumes things are not going to change so she doesn't bother communicating how she feels. If either or both of those things happen the couple drifts apart, the guy oblivious to the looming disaster and the girl …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 05:39 PM
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I disagree with a lot of things BPers say (mostly the guys who take it to extremes with their views) but the one thing I can agree on with BP posters is that "male beauty" (whatever the hell that is) is not the end all and be all when it comes to attracting women. Yes, Brad Pitt is guaranteed a stable of female admirers even at his age but it's not just his face that gets him attention. RP men tend to downplay the role personal achievement and perseverance plays in attraction - a lot of them thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 05:29 PM
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you're way off the mark here. I'm saying this so that you think about it a bit and figure out how things play out in relationships when it's say two college kids who have no real world responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 05:23 PM
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true, I had to grow out of the "if it's broke I ain't fixing it" mentality and look into why I was going in and out of relationships. Guess everybody goes through that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 10:59 PM
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Men: underestimating the importance of "quality time" related to above, spending the majority of their time on their jobs or businesses, believing that providing for a woman will be received as affection/love paying attention to what women say in the moment and not how they have been acting over an extended period of time. Hence the failed shit tests Women: giving the social status of a man too much importance and projecting all sorts of things they desire/value onto that man before really getti…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 10:12 PM
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No other man caught my attention because at the time even if an Adonis came at me, no amount of pretty was worth more than my relationship with my BF at the time. I have that same thought process regarding women when I'm in a relationship: lots of beautiful women around but they aren't "mine", so the hotness is irrelevant when compared to what I've got. Having said that, before I knew exactly what I wanted in a woman back in my twenties I always ended the relationship when the spark was gone. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 10:04 PM
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I know this will sound vague but it's something I believe: things move in cycles, a process of renewal is important in a relationship to keep it alive. Even when you someone inside and out, falling back to habit leads to atrophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 09:25 PM
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I gave that as an example of a core bonding pattern, sounds like it wasn't the case for your exes if they faded away. A core bonding pattern as I like to phrase it is the one thing that will keep a woman's attraction strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 09:05 PM
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I guess men are different in that they trust women implicitly right until they break that trust because men look at actions and not thoughts or fantasies. A way in which a woman can break trust through a seemingly innocuous social activity is if that activity has personal significance between a couple. For example: let's take a couple who are two months in their relationship. The man discovers that his partner will only allow a man she is in love with to massage her shoulders. The act is harmles…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 08:32 PM
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As long as they understand that it should never get in the way of what's actually important in a relationship, I'd be fine with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 08:22 PM
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The men who believe the statement quoted in the OP tend to be the kind who go through phases in their bonding patterns: the sex/adventure phase, the settling phase, the building a life phase. From my experience women have a core bonding pattern unique to each woman that generally does not change or fluctuate. If a woman bonds over hours of intimate conversation where she bears all and expresses all her fears, ambitions, passions... that form of bonding won't go away two years into a relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 08:04 PM
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I don't consider a secret crush an emotional affair. It's cheating if the emotions go beyond a crush. A crush is a fantasy, it is not acted upon. An affair is one where the person's focus of affection has shifted from the current partner to a new one, to the point where the person would act on those feelings. Secret correspondences, messaging at odd hours of the day, pics... that's an emotional affair imo
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 02:12 AM
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I'm not clear on this. Are you talking about a secret crush or are you referring to secret email/IM exchanges, nudey pics ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 01:57 AM
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heh, yeah posing yourself as a figure of authority and experience as a convincer is the oldest trick in the book with hypnotists.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 11:01 PM
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ok, here are two subs that are interesting: /r/Hypnosis for discussions on the therapeutic and theoretical aspects. the other sub I know about is /r/EroticHypnosis which is meant for individuals or couples seeking advice into incorporating hypnosis in the bedroom but it has been overtaken by kinky male submissives and trans people so be prepared if you are weirded out by that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 10:40 PM
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fractionation won't lead to a women having sex with you, lol Hell I had a girl I used to fractionate regularly, she loved it. My current partner gets headaches from it sadly :(
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 10:32 PM
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yeah but it's all pretty tame outside of spooky CIA experiments. Hell, there are a few subs discussing hypnosis here on reddit (even a few weird erotic hypnosis ones if you are curious)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 10:29 PM
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Most of the time you just end up with a person with Dissociative Identity Disorder or some other type of trauma-induced psychosis - hardly useful as an assassin or super-spy. I know enough about the subject to confidently say that DiD would only be an outcome of such extreme trauma that it creates a break in psyche to cope with it. Think repeated trials of physical abuse, rape, psychological torture etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 10:27 PM
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you don't need to implant false memories in order for a post-hypnotic suggestion to work. The "sleep" or trance state post-hypnotic suggestion is usually the easiest to set up if you've already put someone under. It's a pleasant state to be in and subjects usually enjoy going back to it though if you do not perform further conditioning it pretty much wears out after two or three uses. For a woman to be convinced that a total stranger is her husband, it would be necessary for a subject to undergo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 10:14 PM
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they also used extremely drastic techniques like submerge their test subjects into such extreme trauma that they developed split personalities, in order to break down their belief system enough for it to be completely rebuilt according to their whims. So how are you going to boil that down to a pick up line?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 10:06 PM
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you really want me to answer that? YES. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 10:05 PM
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if the intent was purely to manipulate in order to have sex, it's kinda rape. There are consent laws covering hypnosis in countries like the UK and Australia, amusingly enough. I say amusing but I am not surprised that it was attempted enough times to a warrant new laws being passed. EDIT: I will point out that a scenario like the one OP proposes is highly unlikely. Anything suggested to you in a trance state that goes against your core principles like say, acceding to sex with a total stranger …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 09:49 PM
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Hypnotic suggestion is a pretty legit thing. With it, you can make people do whatever the fuck you like as the CIA aptly demonstrated all the way back in the 1950's. It's 2016 now motherfuckers. Funnily enough, I happen to have spent a few years learning about hypnosis and NLP. No. 1: it's not easy, especially with total strangers. Think the work involved to build confidence and rapport through TRP techniques is hard? This is ten times worse. You not only have to already be confident and easily …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 09:46 PM
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Why are there so few guys capable of giving women breath taking sex? The kind of sex where you nail her to the bed, lead the dance, make her do what you want. because most males have forgotten to grow up into men. For all it's faults a traditional restrictive society forces a growing man (I'm talking 17 to 23) to think deeply about what makes a connection with a woman turn into something that's intense, exciting and riveting. Ever wonder why most guys walk around in meme t-shirts, scruffy jeans …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 08:04 PM
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a heterosexual woman who wants nothing to do with the opposite sex has some serious hang ups about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 07:22 PM
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I don't bother with women who have debilitating complexes against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:29 PM
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The primary argument being made for Matt Taylor is that he got flak from feminists/etc because he wasn't attractive whereas an attractive man would have been given a free pass (for). my argument is that people who are confident in their own choices won't back down when challenged. Regarding the physicist in the shirt, it was clear to e that he was following the tradition of Einstein appearing for nobel prize ceremonies completely unkempt in a regular suit while his colleagues are dressed to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:09 PM
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do you really have to ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:06 PM
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Since you were saying something about how dominance won't increase your chances of survival in the modern world, Obviously that's false. I was merely implying that there is more to sexual attraction in modern times than "me tarzan, you jane". Women aren't automatically attracted to the largest, strongest most brutal male, it's usually the ones who are in control of themselves while wielding a certain level of commanding influence that do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:01 PM
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Yes, it is sexual assault what about cultures where kissing someone on the cheek twice is a form of greeting?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 05:57 PM
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there is a third type: two dominant type A personalities where one likes to be submissive in the relationship and the other prefers to take on all the responsibility and decision making. The genders don't matter, it can be one or the other but it does work with that component in place (one partner enjoying the relief of submission in private)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 05:50 PM
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He's not dominant in the least, lol Dominance is actually off putting for young girls. The average 16 year old girl won't find a big burly biker guy attractive at all. The softer type is much more appealing, hence why you see boy band members being so androgynous. Some girls grow out of that phase, others grow to adulthood with the attraction for androgynous men intact. Case in point, Supernatural is aimed mostly at the female young adult demographic. I'm not surprised he's got fans.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 05:30 PM
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creates respect and creates a feeling of safety. this is what a lot of the trp posters who have contributed are missing, thanks for replying. Feeling safe for a woman is HUGE. It directly links in to sexual arousal and emotional attachment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 05:20 PM
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Hey good for you that you have found someone who clicks! yeah, I have nothing against those who are incompatible with me - in fact I enjoy hearing about all the varying types of relationships out there. I just didn't want the discussion derailed by a flood of contributors pointing out that they aren't attracted to male dominance. Believe me I am not trying to shut people up, it would actually be quite educational for the members of the sub if a thread was started about all the different dynamics…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 05:13 PM
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Can't happen if there's tones of being undermined. it might seem to you like one party is being undermined (because you cannot see the draw, so you yourself would feel undermined) but in a relationship built on power dynamics both are perfectly happy and satisfied. That's a conversation for another time though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 05:02 PM
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If you look at Russell Brand's approach, you can tell that he is interested in making a fun moment happen. You can tell from his vibe that he's flirting and not aiming for sex. He's showing how everything is a fun adventure to him, if he happens to get sex along the way all the better - but he is not laser focused on getting his dick wet. That is the big distinction between charismatic and creepy. I completely agree with you OP, that's why I never talk about my "game" to women who ask, breaking …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 04:53 PM
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alright then. There are many aspects that are attractive but hands down the most important one: She is my true compliment. We are like two pieces of the same puzzle. With "egalitarian" partners I was always misunderstood, every gesture I made felt like a hammer to a vase. So I have to play a part, act in ways that are not natural for me. They were all unsatisfying experiences. With a woman who lives through submission, everything works. Everything I do hits the mark, I am moving almost by instin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 04:44 PM
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eh, that would take too long... in a nutshell, many women prefer honesty they can trust over meaningless cooing flowery words. incels seem to think being all cute and syrupy to women gets them wet, it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:23 PM
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the phrases "sweet and loving" and "sweet girl" should be banned from reddit. Those two phrases and the mind sets behind them are half the problem with the incel epidemic in this site.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:21 PM
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why?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:19 PM
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oh yeah? he was blunt as a stone, even after he warmed up to khaleesi. "sweet to her" implies many things (I usually consider that type of guy the one who acts like a puppy around his partner while playing tough guy in public)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:16 PM
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That depends on what kind of dominance we are talking about really. As we are talking BDSM/sexual dominance? Social dominance? etc More specifically dominance as an integral part of a man's personality. Men with senior management roles usually have highly developed organisational skills, they aren't always dominant - even if they are perceived so. Subordinate employees are going to listen to higher ranking managers because it's their job, not because they have some innate respect for the manager…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:09 PM
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Not a bad post, even if I explicitly mentioned in the OP that those who do not have the preference have no need to chime in. Switches be switches, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:04 PM
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so you are describing a woman who is not attracted to male dominance but is attracted to high status males who defer to female significant others.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 01:59 PM
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I don't know. Dominant men are in the minority, why would someone who does not like taking the initiative go through the trouble of finding one? Sounds like too much effort just to be passive and pretend. Now if they convince some average guy that he should be more "dominant" so that said passive woman does not have to decide on anything, that's a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 10:05 PM
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And you pretend you're turned on by his dominance, but really its just easier to get aroused because you can relax and not think about anything. heh, sounds like you're guessing about all this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 10:00 PM
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Dominance is what a Trump type person has. you mean "Domineering"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 09:17 PM
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yes, exactly. It's about taking charge and being on top of things, not switching off and being completely passive when the guy has walked through the door of his home.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 09:06 PM
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Your last sentence helps clear it up a bit what you're looking for here just to be clear, I'm not talking about submissive in a kink sense. Think high powered Japanese executive who hands over his salary cheque to his wife while bowing when he is back home.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:59 PM
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not really. Women have reasons to be attracted to male dominance that are internal, that have nothing to do with social status. In fact many women who confuse social status with natural dominance are sorely disappointed to discover that the the high status man they bagged is actually completely submissive in private.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:51 PM
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that's a false equivalency. Breasts are a physical trait that is a result of genetics, dominance is a personality trait that is a result of personal experience and growth. I can give you several reasons for why men like submissive traits in women. It's not that mysterious.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:47 PM
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A dominant man has control over himself and the situation. He masters his body, his mind, his surroundings and his job. I agree completely. However it seems to me from what you just stated, that women only find "shelter" as the only draw to being with a dominant male. What are your thoughts on the notion that women attracted to dominance relish being challenged to grow with support and encouragement from partner, to trust that a dominant male will hold them accountable and not mince words when t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:44 PM
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"sweet to her" doesn't sound dominant at all. Might want to clarify what you think a man being the dominant/leading partner looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:39 PM
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the question posed centers on what aspects of male dominance do the majority of women out there find attractive. That's the scope of the discussion, not external factors like social status or fame.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:37 PM
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Interesting. Do you believe it's all about social status? That women look for men who can rise socially above others, not how they interact one on one with female partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:32 PM
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right but you have not given your understanding of dominance or why it is attractive. From what you have said I might assume you believe that dominance is a chimpanzee biting females on the neck until one of them lies down to just take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:29 PM
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from my experience when women describe what they picture when asked about male dominance they usually come up with: A well groomed, well built corporate mogul in a business suit An adventurer who is rugged and comfortable in his own skin Someone a little bit dark, a bit mysterious A silent type tough biker dude I even once heard: a lord from the renaissance era(!) No mention of a hairy cave man who can club a tapir to death and eat it raw. While there may be echoes from the distant past I have f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:23 PM
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so you believe that modern day women are faking it for "survival"..?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:14 PM
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whoah. I would like to know more as this sounds like something you read off a pamphlet. (it's kinda inaccurate too in this day and age, in a city the one with the better job is higher up the food chain - modern day risks and concerns are more about financial stability than skinning deer and eating their flesh to survive)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:12 PM
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I mentioned hefner and iggy pop as examples of guys who said or did outrageous things which the general public came to accept. Hugh Hefner may not have walked around in a dick t-shirt, but he publicly campaigned against segregation and used his media empire to promote civil rights activists in the 60s. A time when even a hint of support for civil rights was career suicide. The outrage he received for siding with minorities was a thousand times worse than what a guy wearing a loud t-shirt would g…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 07:39 PM
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Ok, you raise a good point regarding billy bush (did not know that) but come on. Blurting out "grab them by the pussy!" is a non sensical non sequitur. I would bet hard money that no red blooded heterosexual male can relate to that. It literally doesn't make sense which convinces me that the comment was not thought out or had any relation to past experiences. If it was an unconscious admission of past behaviour then Trump needs to be committed. That comment is up there with guys who break into w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:45 PM
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Or, it could be that the man views sexual assault in general as a joke. you know I would find that even a man like that would be self aware enough not to share those kind of views with a presenter he just met right before a live TV show. The whole discerning bit is what gets me, your statement could be true but I personally see it as highly unlikely that an actual sex offender would joke publicly about his fucked up acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:23 PM
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"you can grab a woman by the pussy" that would be a proclamation, no doubt about it. A very .... suspect one but it would be unambiguously spoken from some sort of twisted experience with women. What the guy said was a try hard attempt at being a cool ladies man. That is the difference I see between the over enthusiastic "grab them by the pussy!" and the quoted statement above.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:22 PM
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I honestly don't know how my opinion would be misconstrued if you are telling me you're sure that the tone of voice in the recording conveys a sober, serious admission. It's crystal clear to me that he was attempting to make an off the cuff "cool" one liner but failed. You can tell from the awkward pause before the other guy's fake laughter. Well, I say that but apparently you can't(?)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:16 PM
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bragadocious had to chuckle at that. Though I have to be frank, your view is disturbing. It's not really about Trump, the question was more about your ability to discern awkward comments from the admission of a disturbed individual. Just last month one of the younger female designers at my agency asked me if I thought Victoria's Secret models were sexy. For context, she is a fitness nut who adores VS models and was surprised by a male co-worker's comment that he didn't find them appealing. The o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:08 PM
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Exactly! When he is on higher ground it's easy for him to "mentor" and talk tough. When he's being challenged by an equal he starts whining that he's being treated unfairly. It was a pretty poor showing in that first debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 09:54 PM
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I'm outraged that he appeared to be bragging about committing sexual assault ok! so you are one of the former. Let's set aside that it's Trump for a minute. Let's say it is man X. Listening to the recording and taking note of the tone of voice, are you absolutely sure that man X is bragging about a prior sexual assault he has committed where he grabbed a female's genitals, or do you see it as a faux pas from someone without much social graces?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 09:47 PM
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We're talking about a guy wearing a shirt while being interviewed about his major achievement. What does that have anything to do with rejection..?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 09:33 PM
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It used to be For Want of A Nail, nowadays it's For Want of A Meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 09:28 PM
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but I think it shows he has tremendously bad judgment and easily gets carried away. That's a fair assessment. Also his tendency to lose frame when his status or wealth are questioned the way Hillary did in the first debate. Someone who cares that much about such petty matters has some pretty deep cracks in his armour. EDIT: I mean I don't know anything about running a real estate empire but my answer would have been simple "I run a business. There are many factors that are taken into considerati…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 09:06 PM
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that makes sense, what I figured it was really about. Some of the comments I read on the internet are hard to decipher though, like they're scared Trump is under their beds. Perhaps they are overdoing it for effect?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 08:55 PM
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here's the thing though, men and women who forge their own path tend to be seen as attractive even if they aren't classically beautiful or handsome. Ozzy Osbourne outraged a lot of people with his antics, didn't care. The very same things that sent the easily outraged into fits are now hailed as acts of creativity. He didn't have the face of an angel or the body of an adonis yet he was seen as very attractive in his hay day. So yeah while it is a bit simplistic to proclaim that beautiful people …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 08:05 PM
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Ah well. I guess this is one of those things that can only change in the right relationship so I can understand how it's not something that has you conflicted.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 06:44 PM
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internet anger is meaningless, the rest of the world will just be amused at the crazy shirt. It's not really about attractive vs. unattractive. Charismatic men don't give a shit what a bunch of weird women think. Iggy Pop would routinely walk in to daytime interviews without a shirt on, didn't give a fuck. Also see the half century of continuous outrage that Hugh Hefner didn't give a fuck about throughout his entire career.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 06:17 PM
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seems /u/future_space_boobs didn't watch the news: Can you point me to an example of an attractive man who wore a Hawaiian shirt with naked women on it for an interview and people were cool with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 05:59 PM
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But because I don't think highly of men when it comes to sex or their will power there, I'm not shocked when otherwise good men don't honor that. Hmmm As someone who considers cheating to be one of the most cowardly acts a man could commit, I would find that kind of expectation an unnecessary burden and a massive roadblock to a full belief in her commitment to our relationship. This is a deal breaker for men who value their convictions when it comes to long term relationships. Something to think…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 05:40 PM
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Let's take Nelson Mandela as an example. What do we know about him? He grew up in abject poverty when his family was stripped of all it's assets He grew up to become a heavyweight boxer and freedom fighter His charisma brought peace to a nation on the edge of experiencing a catastrophic racial genocide. He was a man who had the necessary abilities to steal, rape, kill, torture. Yet he did none of those things. That is because he cultivated and adhered to a disciplined code of honour. That allowe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 05:13 PM
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I am French ... underpaid because I am woman A woman getting undercut in France. right. That is impossible. It probably had nothing to do with you being a woman. And you are a nasty person BTW. might have to do with your edgy edgelord personality, I can see that happening. I honestly do not know anyone in my age range (or older!) who is *that* thin skinned. You're an edgelord millenial, I'm sure of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 02:31 PM
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you better clarify that. so you've been groped, humiliated, demeaned and excluded from all social/professional opportunities, according to that article. Oh and you have been going through that since 1990. Do I have that right? EDIT: My hunch is you were born in 1999 and you typed your replies while getting ready for your school bus.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 02:03 PM
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I have been a professional within the "tech industry" since 2003 but of course I am completely unaware of wtf is going on in an industry I have been working in for almost 15 years. Maybe things are different in Silicon Valley (I highly doubt it) but in my part of the world the tech industry is Orbiter Central. Female designers and devs are practically royalty in Europe/Asia.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 01:55 PM
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(Once again, I accept that if you lift weights you will get stronger, I accept that you will gain some muscle tissue, I accept that there may be psychological benefits for some) you also have greater stamina, a better regulated heart, better control of your breathing and you smell better when you sweat. See where I'm going with this? Girls who find fit guys attractive are not just thinking of abs, lol EDIT: I am by no means defending the notion that lifting will magically solve all mens' problem…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 11:26 PM
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Watson had already made it clear she wanted a break from being hit on I asked a female friend of mine what she thought of that girl's reaction. She seemed bewildered that it a woman would use a public podium for an hour to bemoan unwanted attention from a tech geek. After asking me about the incident, the answer my friend gave me was "she needs to grow up". For the women I know awkward compliments from nerdy men are a blip on their radar. When my friend travels on work assignments to the develop…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 08:29 PM
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no naked chicks but it's still a hideous shirt speaking of the shirt in question, it's got a bunch of stylised female figures in super hero costumes. Nothing about that looks offensive to me. It is certainly a LOUD shirt but yeah only unbalanced internet people would get triggered by something so harmless. Only thing that comes to mind when looking at that picture is "Euro dude being Euro"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 08:17 PM
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"models" aren't unicorns that shit rainbows. They are human like everyone else. What does it matter that a bunch of guys can't get their heads out of their spank banks long enough to connect with one of these models? It is literally irrelevant to you personally (or your prospects). I have had an experience with two women who you would consider models. They did a few modelling jobs before moving on to careers in PR and art design. How did I get them to be with me? Nothing special: I listened, we …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 03:12 PM
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lol? Your future is not a laughing matter. I was not putting you down when I said you will be left behind, I was being honest with you. Work on yourself, be the best version of yourself you can become and you will find satisfaction. Get out of your head, these thoughts of hopelessness are of no use to you. Sincerely.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 03:05 PM
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Men are competitors. The only person you are setting back with that attitude is yourself, the rest of humanity is leaving you behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 03:01 PM
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I think that women can take advantage of this, by normalizing polyamory, and allowing men to have more than one mate. you seem to be under the impression that well adjusted men are waiting for permission from women to do what they want. Here's a hint: nothing you mentioned in your long post is remotely appealing to many men out there. Amusing maybe, but yeah... a woman past a certain age is like a mutant to men who don't need pills to get a hard on. Maybe that is the draw for the fetishists but …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 12:17 PM
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I don't have the patience to address this nonsense, so I'll just pick a small part of your think piece: And, you mentioned one post your defense is that there is at most one post like that on TBP. Not All Blue Pill. Which is the exact argument that over sensitive red pillers make when confronted with strange TRP posts. The horse shoe fits :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 05:51 AM
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Nope: First off, it's fucking gross. The dude was being a judgmental dick and got called out on it by a fellow TBP member. EDIT: I don't really care about older guys and younger girls, it's the hypocrisy that gets me. Everything male-centric is "fucking gross" while everything female-centric is "it's so phenomenal, why isn't there more of this???" If you didn't get the gist of the screen cap, it's a male feminist shaming women who like older men as partners because it doesn't fit his world view …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 11:33 PM
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err, it isn't. It is an example of a male TBP member ranting about cougars being more 'superior' to older men, which in itself is an example of "grrl power" as male feminists understand it - female superiority. Hence it being an example of "grrl power" views taken to an extreme. Example: normal "grrl power" statement: "girls can do it too!" extreme "grrl power" statement usually expressed by a troubled man: "girls can do it all! and better than men!! because they are inherently more evolved and …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 11:13 PM
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The whole "we must submit, vagina über alles" attitude some of the TBP posters project feels a tad extreme to me. and I'm talking about the males here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 11:07 PM
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"Girl power" is an accepted, societally- and even governmentally-endorsed viewpoint. I get your point but are you discounting the crazier variants who just make everyone else cringe?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 11:03 PM
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nah, that rant was delivered with sincerity. The sincerity of the fanatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 11:02 PM
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I've found that the concepts of "women run the world!" and "grrrl power!" are the same thing to male feminists. They don't fit in to the self empowerment narrative so they go down the female supremacy rabbit hole. "we must raise the gynoid beings to the status of supreme overlords for the sake of HUMANITY!"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 11:01 PM
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Eh, I know plenty of engineers who are in it for the money. I know the type. One track mind certificate earning machines, they end up in run of the mill careers netting $70k - $90k annually, with the occasional freakish workaholic who after immense sacrifices ends up in a high pressure job that earns him a whopping $400k or whatever. While that is fairly common for engineering/medicine graduates, there is another group who enter hard science fields because they are obsessed with science and math…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 06:16 PM
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job security, yo! that is an incredibly lame reason to pursue any kind of life long endeavour. The people I know who went into engineering fields (men and two women) all had massive ambitions and secretly thought of themselves as future Nikola Teslas. You are proving /u/TheLongerCon 's point: you just didn't have it in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 05:44 PM
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A man would feel nowhere near as upset as a woman would if he didn't get to spend half a day chatting with his partner/spouse due to time constraints / life getting in the way. The opposite is usually not true. So yes, men spend an incredible amount of effort "securing" a female but after commitment is given, women seem to spend an incredible amount of effort getting their man to pay attention to them, listen to them, spend time with them. So commitment is attention/time in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 10:13 AM
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A blatant example of this is She's Out of My League. The trailer alone should give you enough of an idea. Another one is How I Met Your Mother, or any sitcom where a completely bland, unremarkable mannequin of a male actor ends up dating a slew of hot models every week. I have a theory that the real intent of casting such bland male leads is so that desperate men stuck watching TV on friday nights can completely blot out the male star and envision themselves speaking his dialogue, sort of like a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 04:45 PM
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Hero takes young woman to bed. Hero did not, how dare you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 11:22 PM
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well, being anti-PC covers a broad demographic. I'm sure there are many small enclaves on the internet full of racist/bigoted views. It doesn't change the fact that PC in it's current form is spearheaded by the worst types of "liberals" in the west who are seeking power through moral veto more than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 02:44 PM
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It breaks down like this; not all ideas are created equal. Racist and sexist people are inherently biased when they create their "arguments", "research", and "statistics". They are not objective and are not looking to debate in good faith. I do not support racist views (I am not white and not from the west) and I do not support sexist views (I am from a family whose female members have defied sexist stereotypes for three generations in my part of the world) yet I still see PC culture as deeply h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 02:22 PM
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If women never want to be approached they should move to Saudi Arabia where a harem in public spaces is the law of the land... Men are going to take chances when they see a woman they are attracted to. Some pull it off, others fail awkwardly. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 01:57 PM
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You seem to be out of touch with popular culture. This song has more than 89 million views on youtube and was fairly popular a few years back. Another reason I feel you're out of touch is your use of the phrase "bad girl" to describe the archetype you are discussing. What you are describing is a "tough chick", a bad girl is a woman who has manipulative or dishonest qualities, uses men and cannot be trusted. The unscrupulous seducer. Bad girls need to be punished!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 01:44 PM
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Why would she have to? Interesting question. I am curious why you are asking it. If I made a blatant request like that, I would assume the people agreeing to it also want it. Why assume when instead you can develop a sense of the person? Having a clear idea of the motives a male has who is pressed right up against you is beneficial to self preservation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 05:44 AM
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however they gain their position, alpha wolves have to be adept fighters just like all the other wolves in the pack. I doubt that an alpha wolf (breeding wolf, whatever) would be respected by the pack after failing to settle a violent confrontation. Do you dispute this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 07:47 PM
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How did you leapfrog to this conclusion exactly? From my original reply to you: Humans are by nature a hive-like species, the strength of mankind is in the group.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 01:41 PM
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why do you equate respect with servitude? The respect I afford the general manager is limited to our level of interaction together and his relevant competencies, I do not view him as my master.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 01:19 PM
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if you feel the need to be servile and beseeching towards professors/managers, that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 01:10 PM
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mob bosses and pimps are all hard, psychologically tough, dominant, influential personalities. Going to ignore the pimps because that is laughable. Let's focus on criminal overlords. You say that these mob bosses rose through psychological strength alone. I have to ask you, did all of them material out of thin air onto a large dimly lit office with power at their fingertips? Most of them started out in the streets as drug runners or thieves. Psychological strength is a vital part of a leader's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 12:59 PM
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Humans are by nature a hive-like species, the strength of mankind is in the group. A single man cannot fend off apex predators or hunt big game. Even if you factor in guns, those very devices needed a group of humans to produce, a lone man with a gun still has to go back to the group to acquire bullets. Having said that, an individual does not need to live for the sake of others in order to survive. Just because I co-operate with my fellow man, I do not need to be servile to him or compromise my…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 12:56 PM
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Going to disagree with your viewpoint. While it is true that a creature who can only thrive through the use of others can potentially rise to the status of leader, that creature is not alpha. It was a custom in many cultures for tribe leaders to be challenged by one individual in one to one combat or competition, if the tribe leader cannot prove to his clan that he is capable of winning on his own he is toppled by the true alpha. Now clever leaders can weasel out of it by selecting a "champion" …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 12:45 PM
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like wolfs the plural of wolf is wolves - and that's not the only thing you got wrong. Experience in hunting and defending territory directly relates to experience in being dominant. Wolves bite each other as well as hunted prey.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 12:41 PM
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Is such a request, from a woman, manipulative, selfish, or inconsiderate of men? Why or why not? If it is presented to a man who genuinely needs nothing more than the odd cuddle, it's fine. If women ask their male friends without finding out if they want the same thing it's selfish. If it was requested upfront it would be ethical but still selfish, as the girl made no effort to discover if the male friend enjoys this form of platonic physical contact, just asked for what she wants. Still, ethica…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 12:34 PM
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On the whole, 2.5 percent of the tweets sent to the men but fewer than 1 percent of those sent to women were classified as abusive. What women classify as "abusive", men take as rapport.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 12:27 PM
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I totally disagree that sexual wants are a reflection of general attitude towards life. they are neither: always a reflection of general attitude towards life. nor are they: never a reflection of general attitude towards life. I think that more often than not, you can not use a person's sexual preferences or fantasies to infer their approach to the rest of life. yes, you don't. You find out from them if their sexual preferences are a reflection of their general attitude towards life (not the ent…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 04:05 PM
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I said I disagree it usually does. no actually, you said the very concept that sexual preferences can be a reflection of general attitudes towards life to be false: I totally disagree with your idea that sexual wants are a reflection of general attitude towards life. followed by mentions of "studies" and anecdotes about CEOs paying for dominatrices. you can backtrack and claim you were referring to tendencies, that I am pulling things out of thin air but you aren't getting let off the hook.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 03:48 PM
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I don't care to sway your opinion, I am informing you that this view: I totally disagree with your idea that sexual wants are a reflection of general attitude towards life. Is naive. Sexual preferences might reflect desired lifestyles in some cases and they might not in others. The absolute position you hold that it can never reflect a desire for power exchange as a permanent dynamic indicates how much exposure you have had to life in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 03:33 PM
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This disconnect is echoed It is not a disconnect... There have been multiple studies *face palm* Just because someone is assertive or has a type A personality does not mean they are inherently averse to power exchange within a relationship or does not enjoy being submissive to a partner outside of the bedroom. The two are not mutually exclusive. Lay off the studies and *talk* to some of these submissives with high power careers. and about this: Many dominatrices have said that a lot of their cli…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 03:19 PM
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Do you think someone can be truly happy living under the control of someone else? Yes. You need to go out more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 03:08 PM
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A partner who is involved would know that. I am going to repeat this again: you are oversimplifying. Let's take a man who was completely involved and devoted. Something happens and the relationship ends. No matter how involved he was during the relationship, there is no guarantee that he would be aware of a birth nine months after the relationship has ended.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 03:42 PM
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when you state that avoiding unwanted pregnancies to be the only viable solution, you can't justify abortion. It's easy to say that being careful solves all problems but that is not always how it works. Two teenagers who love each other might end up with a pregnancy due to lack of awareness regarding contraceptive methods, the pill may not have been taken as regularly or the woman may have purchased a bad batch (let's assume that happens). Even when two people are careful to the best of their ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 02:07 PM
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This is easily solved by only sleeping with people you trust, and/or that you are in a relationship with. Then abortion should be illegal since your "solution" applies to that issue as well. I'm not even against abortion but I can't let an offhand comment like that slide.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 01:45 PM
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I see it as healthy conditioning. One of the first things you learn when practicing a martial art (aside from mind numbing drills) is deadening the nerves in your fists and feet. Not being "sensitive" is an important facet of being a capable protector.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 12:22 PM
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This study proves one thing: in a large group there are few who can accurately assess the competency of their peers. Women have this misconception that men listen to and fall behind male colleagues, it's the opposite. They get more competitive with them. It gets tougher for males who are perceived as better performing, not easier. That is why the smartest males keep their cards close to their chests. Being "nominated as smartest in the class" only means you have a target on your back. It only pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 03:57 PM
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Nope. Wrong again. I can only cite general statistics and anecdotal evidence (sisters are financial analyst & manager, unmarried and uncriticised) but honestly you are painting a world I don't recognise.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 02:20 PM
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There is a difference between "legal" and "accepted". well shit Saudi Arabia must be more progressive than the west then since working mothers are not criticised for holding jobs over there. The criticism (from friends / family) is usually aimed at women who spend very little time with their children whether it's due to work or general negligence (bored housewife of wealthy man out shopping all day). And working moms still get a lot of flak for not being with their kids. usually the ones getting…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 02:10 PM
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I'm not giving you the first one because just having a full time job is enough to elicit that criticism for women. Men having a full time job is just fine. Not really.... women working full time is a globally accepted phenomenon today. Hell, even Saudi women work full time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 08:53 AM
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Digging hooks into your chest and being suspended is a submissive act. As a Master I appreciate the level of mental fortitude needed to endure the levels of physical pain it entails in order to enjoy that particular activity for those involved, I don't see how it can be reframed as a dominant act. You're gonna need to prepare your thesis for that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 05:37 PM
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I was thinking more waiting until the victim is unconscious from drinking/drugs my drinking friends would call that a great night out. EDIT: I remember this chinese torture technique. They would send two prostitutes to a prisoner, then right as his dick is rock hard a big burly dude storms in and snaps it in two. The prisoner has to deal with a penis that tortures him every time he pees, a misshapen mass of broken blood vessels that can never bring him pleasure again. Men today need to get some …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 05:24 PM
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you mean by coaxing his dick while threatening to fire him? Any guy who got "raped" like that has not developed masculine traits. If a man gets raped by a woman he has no hope of surviving a real confrontation that puts him in any sort of danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 04:06 PM
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Do you consider it one? Sure I do, but YKINMK and all that jazz.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 04:02 PM
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new age kinksters.... if you truly believe in YKINMK you cannot disagree with /u/Atlas_B_Shruggin Most men and women consider receiving anal a submissive act. It's hilarious how comfortable in their masculinity all these pegged doms are yet they have to provide a research paper proving that getting fucked in the ass is a dominant act to every new play partner they want to "dominate".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 03:37 PM
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when you say an off colour joke to a friend, do you ask for consent first? you act based on what you know about your friend and if you read the situation wrong you handle it if I was /u/Atlas_B_Shruggin's husband and she had a super secret hidden trauma triggered by grabbing her arm (which I had no knowledge of), I would handle the situation if she freaked out. Let go of her arm, show her that everything is ok, don't freak out myself (very important) and give her a chance to talk about it or not…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 03:17 PM
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Ah yes ... the sound of male tears ... most beautiful sound on earth It's called semen. (joke stolen from a woman.)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 01:17 PM
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since you believe that women "reward" men by sex: They complain about there not being any good men and then reward the dogs with affection and sex. It appears that you are the dog in this conversation. Your family has trained you well, good doggy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 01:12 PM
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you like sensual guys, it's cool. Not all women like that template.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 11:31 PM
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so he's a guy who made chasing women a priority in his life. This is not a constant among successful men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 10:05 PM
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If you are a self made millionaire who does not have time for nonsense, you will value someone in your life you can trust (who also is willing to accommodate your unique position in life) over random one night stands that could turn out to be crazy. Consider sports athletes who have to guard their semen like it's the federal reserve after hooking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 02:37 PM
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yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 04:29 PM
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post wall Either you are delusional or you think the wall refers to "dem birthin' hips".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 04:28 PM
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This is why socially awkward is too vague a descriptor. There's the introverted millionaire who says strange things in casual conversation yet has a brilliant mind (young Howard Hughes), then there's the fat rich kid with BO and a self-entitled attitude, always in tight brightly coloured tops that look ridiculous. Those two are not equated in the SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 04:24 PM
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why the fack did they have to make Leia look so old and dowdy? I didn't watch the movie yet but I would find it quite shocking if they tried to turn Carrie Fisher into a 59 year old sexy vixen. She's a grandmother now...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 12:06 PM
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Something a lot of young men in their early 20s miss: 30 year old men are a lot more private about their sexual escapades than the 21 year old frat bro. A promiscuous 30 year old is perfectly happy being seen as a square to those he isn't going to deep throat. In fact it helps his overall pull - few women are going to get mixed up with a loose lipped older guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 05:18 PM
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Watched it. The video proves that acting immaturely when speaking out for a cause ultimately results in it's failure. Don't troll so hard MGTOW, people might have given you a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:07 PM
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But why do you care if the human race survives. street cred If it was your own interests wouldn't it serve you better to not get the women pregnant... I'm not RP so no idea what is meant by this "own interests" comment. Is that like a big tenet of their teachings? I've personally learned that being too self-interested makes you predictable and easy to play over.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 12:24 PM
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I would disagree on that one. A butterbody means an undisciplined person who will balloon in ten years' time. Prefer a butterface, if she sticks to a healthy diet and effective fitness program she can stay fit well into her 50s.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 10:57 AM
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This is a pretty far out scenario but if it was me, ten guys and 11 other women left to continue the survival of the species? You better believe those eleven women are not going to have the right to choose whether they conceive or not. Slavery back on the table boys! I am pretty sure no woman is going to like hearing this but that's how it's going to be. The men dying while hunting / fending off predators, the women used for breeding and cooking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 10:48 AM
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If a man is friendly with a woman because he likes her. But she doesn't like him the same way. How should she treat him going forward? If they are just getting to know each other she should be clear when expressing that she is only looking for a platonic relationship. Once that is clarified it's not on her if the guy is still trying to pursue her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 10:42 AM
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you've got an approved study and everything, indicating that women claim they were virgins until they were 28? IT MUST BE TRUE THEN! *cackles in amusement*
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 09:05 AM
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experiment This is a bullshit random study. I can link you to a study that confirms 25% of the population follows the Jedi path as a religion. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 05:46 PM
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Ask him if he'd ever have sex with a woman against her will and the likelihood of him saying no diminishes significantly. hmmm. Do you have a tinfoil hat in your closet as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 05:31 PM
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How has your knowledge of the pills affected your Reddit browsing habits? I've caught myself thinking "that dude's TRP" while watching random videos/reading articles a few times lately. For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RZALNb3sG8&ab_channel=MrVg247
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 04:31 AM
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flexible, that's hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 06:19 AM
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still better than an obeast. Plus the sex is going to be rough! I'm all for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 04:10 AM
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What we object to is someone who thinks they can tell us what to do, tries to control us, and views us a subordinate 'First mate', ugh. that strikes me as paranoid to be honest, like you are vigilantly seeking out any signs of sociopathy in any man you get involved with. I am dominant, I take charge and am comfortable taking on responsibility. That does not mean I block all two way communication or forbid my partner from handling her own affairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 10:31 AM
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You can't be strong and independent and want a man to lead at the same time. what? This is the EXACT type of woman I am attracted to and exclusively seek out. Strong women with a submissive streak who find a man's strength worthy enough to stand behind. These women are not attracted to strong men because they can't be adults, they are attracted to strong men because their strength and leadership inspires submission in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 10:25 AM
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the guys who can naturally give fatherly love and sexual love have no interest in motherly love. In fact they would find any type of take charge "mothering" from their partner repulsive. Google Daddy Dom / babygirl relationships for some incite.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 10:03 AM
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However, originally we do not know either X or Y, and we will never be completely certain. Let's me solidify this with an example. This whole OP fails because you said in the very beginning: The program works by testing for some property X and then outputting a result with property Y. According to your logic X must be known and defined, otherwise your program is a dud. Stopped reading after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 05:39 AM
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some women are excited by a strong, take charge, rough and tumble kind of masculinity. They are very aware of men's natural differences to women where physical strength is concerned and need to see that difference made more apparent in order to feel sexually aroused. By telling her you find it pleasurable to see her dance while you sit under her, you are basically telling her that the way you would feel most excited is by her taking charge. In other words she is taking the dominant role while yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 07:02 PM
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lol you haven't seen the comics. that scan looks like it was from the first edition or something, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 11:25 PM
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I mean of course I'm aware that I won't always be as young and attractive as I am now. have you thought about the possibility of starting a family, how your prospects are greater in achieving that at a younger age? EDIT: What I have found (anecdotal, I know) from friends and acquaintances over the years is that women have this ironclad belief that men are easy, that things will get a tad harder when they age. Then they are surprised at the dramatic drop off in their available selection once they…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 11:03 PM
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You just have to make good use of your time, and not get all wound around the axle about stupid shit that doesn't matter and eats up time for no good purpose. true, if a guy really wants to raise kids he'll make it work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 10:57 PM
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My husband was 39 when our kids were born. yeah but you said you were the sole breadwinner in the family. The idea of having kids at 39 while keeping up with a demanding career (or small business, if all goes well) sounds ... exhausting to me. And I'm not sure what all of this has to do with the wall. I am wondering if most women think about this stuff when they're younger. The wall encompasses a woman's attractiveness not just as a good lay but a life partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 10:38 PM
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A C-section scar should be nearly invisible whether you're 20 or 40, unless you're prone to keloid scars. not all deliveries are organised affairs, adding c-sections into the mix... I'm not saying that ALL women above 34 are damaged goods, just that it starts to look less reassuring to a man considering a new life. She'd have to be something special for a man to take on all these unknowns. Yes, unknowns apply to 20-28 year old women as well but then they have youth on their side, a less complica…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 10:18 PM
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The time to worry about conception is in the few years leading up to menopause I think you have been spoiled by today's technology if you hold that opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 10:15 PM
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Don't care either way. Interesting. The woman in the video felt the same way in her 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 10:01 PM
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You are also underestimating the extent to which birth weight is monitored towards the end of pregnancy, and the fact that women whose babies look as though they're measuring on the large end are urged toward C-sections. Not at all. A c-section is another area that would make a man worry, scar tissue and muscle tearing can be a lot worse the older you get. That impacts quality of life and the couple's love life. Not good. This makes me think that you must be about 19 years old and have little ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 09:57 PM
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interesting. I'd like you to elaborate. Do you have children or are you childless? If you are content with removing the possibility of raising children, was that an easy or difficult decision? (this is not goading btw, I have no interest in raising children and at 33 I am fully aware that my window of being a young Dad who can keep up with kids is closing fast. Have no issues with it.)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 09:46 PM
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you help and respect every woman in your life depends on what "help" means to you. I help by holding people to their standards and calling them on their bullshit when they try to make excuses. I do not wait on anyone, if that is what you mean by help.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 09:42 PM
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while it is true that women can maintain themselves well into their forties or early fifties, for a man looking to start a family a 35 year old woman is just too old. Not because of her looks or mobility, pregnancy takes a toll... even a 24 year old woman is permanently changed health-wise after a pregnancy - the difference is that she can regain most of her strength and spring back in a way a 35-40 year old woman just can't. Then there is the role genes play, what if a 35 year old woman is luck…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 09:37 PM
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Most of the stuff I've seen about Wonder Woman has mostly been about her being taken captive or forced into bondage tbh She's practically as popular as the nurse/cheer leader in role play for couples. examples from the comic and tv show: https://tytempletonart.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/wonder-woman-207.jpg http://www.chud.com/articles/content_images/17/RetroWonderWoman1.jpg http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/WonderWomanBon_zps773c2125.jpg https://dangerou…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 11:54 AM
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"About male readers, he later wrote: "Give them an alluring woman stronger than themselves to submit to, and they'll be proud to become her willing slaves!" That's clearly the kind of expectation only a sexually submissive male would have. I tend to not take the views of male subs on gender and relationships seriously as they have a strong bias to lean more towards female superiority - which is not relevant to dominant or egalitarian men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 11:46 AM
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I think it does for the average woman above 35. Though even then only if she is interested in starting a family, so not exactly desirable for guys only into hook ups. another thing: I accept if you get your shit together that it is possible, men learn VERY early on that if you don't have your shit together you're going to be incel for a long time. So for us having our shit together isn't a big deal (working out, eating right, focusing on career advancement). This might be my perception as a man …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 08:26 PM
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for me there are two kinds of feminists - the ones who associate that with equality. Many of whom are my friends. We never really talk about feminism as we agree on things pretty much. Then there are the internet "feminists". Whenever I mention feminists I am referring to these idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 02:41 PM
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are you really going to be able to do this? I have a friend who's forty yet looks younger than me (33) because he works out and has tight control of his diet - very little meat, mostly grilled, no trans fats, no junk food. I have another friend my age who looks ten years older but in a good way: gruff, lean muscle, grey buzz cut, walks around in aviator shades, always wearing fatigues and loves hunting/outdoorsy activities. Both are single and routinely land girls just out of college. EDIT: It a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 02:26 PM
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I would suggest that she will never hit the wall She is not going to hit the wall in a lot of men's estimation because she is a unicorn - a woman men find funny. That adds 5 SMV points or something. On the other hand she is pretty vanilla so she has passed the wall for most men (no anal???!).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 02:20 PM
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it's ALWAYS a surprise when you are in REM sleep one second, your insides are burning the next >;D
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 05:35 PM
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I have what you might call alternative lifestyle tastes but I have a feeling red pillers would bust a nut to get what I have found. Sunday (or any off day) usually: surprise anal while she is still asleep. "shaft" cleaning duty, then blowjob. 1 hour spanking session 30 minutes of belting 30 minutes of flogging more anal she goes off to cook in the kitchen
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 09:08 AM
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The problem comes in when we imply that exercising caution is the solution to assault ... In any case, we still have no reason to blame a woman after an assault has occurred That is a strange assertion which is completely illogical EDIT: wanted to clarify that blaming a woman for getting raped is an illogical assertion - one I believe nobody outside of xenophobes/bigots makes. Wearing a helmet does not protect you from a collapsing building. If someone dies in a collapsing building, insurance ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 03:12 PM
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b) we are tacitly accepting that women's actions are the cause of rape and not the people that raped them. I don't get this line of reasoning when applied to today's society. There was a time when this was relevant, where a woman was considered guilty of causing rape because she wore pumps or a short skirt or whatever. Being given the advice that you have to be aware of your surroundings is just common sense and has no relation to the attitude you are describing ("if you smiled while wearing red…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 02:16 PM
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Hugh Hefner was a staunch supporter of the civil rights movement and risked his businesses and very reputation during the '60s defending and promoting minority groups. He may have done it because he is a hedonist who believes everyone should live however they like with the same rights as everyone else, still. Whatever his motivations were he was a man of principles. As kooky as he looks today I still respect him for sticking his nose in a very messy and potentially life ruining political/social …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 11:16 PM
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/u/Atlas_B_Shruggin holdin' frame like a boss.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 10:43 AM
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Well what's he supposed to do, divorce her on the spot for lack of sex? your go to response is to run away? hmmm
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 06:05 AM
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I agree with this. Other than technical skills, one thing that separates a good dominant from a mediocre one in bed is his ability to get closer to his woman, break down walls, have her vulnerable under him. A lot of the content I've seen in TRP is meant to distance men from what a woman is as a person, turn them into a widget on a conveyer belt. While that is helpful in pumping some confidence into a needy man struggling with idealising women, if he doesn't cut that out early on he is going to …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 12:20 PM
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You may see it as cruelty but I take a different tack. Their ridicule is a natural human response to a weak willed man's passive aggressiveness. The man is dissatisfied yet is willing to follow through with this pathetic scheme for an entire year rather than confront the issue. It's natural for complete strangers to laugh at a man who is so inept. Is it fair? I think the answer is irrelevant. Men will be laughed at if they do not develop a back bone. Rather than moan about men's plight, I focus …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 12:07 PM
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The same can happen to men. true, the distinction is that men tend to prioritise sex more while women tend to prioritise commitment more. Hence a woman's value is greater in the beginning of the dating phase while a man's value is greater once an attachment is formed. Can't believe I'm going to cite a comedian in order to make my point but he explains it nicely: https://youtu.be/WK98XzEM97Y?t=2103 (skip to 35:03 if the link doesn't take you there. Took me some time to fish out the relevant part!…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 03:17 PM
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In addition to female infanticide, there was also male infanticide if the male infant was deemed too weak/sick to be of value. While the numbers of male infanticide were undoubtedly much lower, male disposability was a reality for men in the ancient world throughout their lives, not just at birth - male infants were saved to die in battlefields or from exhaustion in fields/mines. Don't see how your accurate sources deem the concept of male disposability flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 12:32 PM
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Islamic culture if you are referring to female infanticide, it was outlawed with the advent of Islam in the Arabian peninsula. source: http://www.islamawareness.net/FamilyPlanning/Infanticide/fit_article001.html EDIT: and I'm sure Christianity/Judaism/Buddhism have similar stances even though I do not have a strong background into those religions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 12:28 PM
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That's what institutionalized means. hmmm. You believe that hatred towards women or general disregard for their being was so ingrained that it was immortalised as law/social code of conduct? In other words, do you believe in the secret undead Cabal of Misogynists?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 05:20 PM
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I just stick to calling the overall trend "progress". Slavery didn't end because policy makers suddenly developed a sense of grace, it ended because the industrial revolution made slave labour unnecessary for the development and maintenance of a vast interconnected civil infrastructure. Yes, racism/classism existed (as did/does misogyny, obviously) but progress was not possible until the necessity of slavery was nullified. In the same manner, once the necessity for division of labour within the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 03:54 PM
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How can a guy who doesn't look like the guys from the 300s have the soul of a warrior? A man who commands a room is a man who maintains control of himself above all. Masculinity is not (just) a physical quality. In my experience, women into masculinity like /u/Atlas_B_Shruggin are attracted to men who have forged their own path, who don't fret over what women find attractive. Men who develop their minds and bodies, work to remain independent and have a surety about them. Testing your physical ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 03:32 PM
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I have read many sources which describe the patriarchy as institutionalised misogyny and not a social structure resulting from the challenges humanity has had dealing with primitive technology or general instability.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 03:02 PM
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I'd say people constantly complaining about anything can give off a bad vibe, which includes constantly complaining about women and feminism. Oh yeah, the sort who constantly complain online about the opposite sex are generally viewed poorly - men or women. The patriarchy is a form of that, hence my question. Not necessarily a constant whining about men to anyone within earshot, still... The fact that it is a belief system based on the notion that women were deliberately oppressed by a cabal of …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 02:42 PM
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People identify as anti-feminists via their definition of feminism, not mine. If a guy has a warm reaction towards a woman which quickly turns cold it's usually because of something the woman is saying/doing. I would say that most level headed men see someone who cares about equality when they hear a woman call herself a feminist. That quickly changes if she says something like "why should we care about male soldiers? It's MEN who sent them there. It's their own fault!".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 02:14 PM
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I find anti-feminists unattractive The chances of you finding an anti-feminist depend on what you ascribe to. If it's "all men and women are equal" you are less likely to find an anti-feminist. If it's "all men are rapists" the chances of finding an anti-feminist go higher. (Also- that guy is a model??) He's got that androgynous look which I am sure is not everyone's cup of tea but from one of his posted pics he doesn't look like he has had trouble working as a model: http://i.imgur.com/YULtWVW.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 02:03 PM
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Out of curiosity, do you agree or disagree with his view that people constantly complaining about being complimented on their looks give off a bad vibe?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 01:49 PM
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how would you react if it becomes a repeating occurrence?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 01:43 PM
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it aint cooties, hes just gross and faggy to me. ... if i ever met an extremely masculine man who didnt agree with my aggressively DE, minarchist, militaristic views it would be like meeting an alien well shit, the question doesn't apply to you then, lol. You're a woman with more or less fringe views if you are into traditionally masculine guys so you are already mentally prepared for a smaller selection of men to interact with. People like us who actually find traditional gender roles appealing…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 01:40 PM
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also, ew, what a disgusting homo, yuck, he looks like he'd be a male feminist he's going to give you cooties!! lol, know that trick from middle school. i would never see a man who didnt agree with me about almost everything more than a few times before it fizzled out Nobody agrees on everything but the gist of the question was if your views were making you less attractive to the kind of men you desire would you hide them, modify your approach or stick to lower calibre men who agree with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 01:24 PM
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Plenty of women turn down men for commitment. well, it's easy to turn down the commitment of some man you are not invested in / have no feelings of attachment for. Once a woman is attached, the man's commitment is worth more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 09:11 AM
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My point is that you can't run a site dedicated to manipulation and expect mainstream support. this is some elite level hamstering. Cosmo, Marie Claire, any other women's magazine that mentions men... they are ALL about helping women manipulating men into giving them favourable outcomes. Or did you think all those "tips to get your man to do X" articles to be pet training tutorials? and nobody has a problem with it, including me. Saying it doesn't exist however turns you into a female stereotype…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 04:48 AM
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Neither. I would only marry a woman who was as invested in a happy relationship as I am, not one who gives me a weekly quota.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 11:57 AM
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Authority that is built on trust in a consensual relationship is NOT easy. Are you 12? not so easy to give it blindly. what sort of idiot gives over total control to random people blindly?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 11:37 AM
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I already stick to my values. I take absolute trust, respect it's importance, make sure my partner stays safe. Something you wouldn't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 04:23 PM
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I'm the one seeing the value in trust. Take your empty arguments elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 04:05 PM
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why don't you swing that way, though? you have trust in humanity, unlike those coldhearted feminists, right? so it wouldn't be a problem to give a woman the reigns for a bit, right? i mean, why wouldn't you want to? what problems would that present? nothing could go wrong. just try it. just for a little while. It's called a preference. I don't see anyone giving up control to someone they trust as problematic, man or woman. Unlike you insecure lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 03:54 PM
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well if you feel that way, hand over your power to someone else. see what happens. I don't swing that way. I have been entrusted authority by women (more recently, have total control over my partner) and I happen to take that very seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 02:01 PM
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you are putting too much power over your life into someone else's hands which is clearly unfavorable. The toxic levels of mistrust feminists have for humanity leaves me cold.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 01:03 PM
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I don't see the TRP view as hypocrisy. For all of us, there are people you find attractive for a short term/fwb dynamic and there are people you find attractive as a LTR prospect. It just so happens that for TRP guys high n-count women are attractive only in a fwb dynamic while low n-count women are deemed attractive for a long term relationship. I see that as a limiting perspective to have personally, yet I do not see anything inherently hypocritical about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 12:40 PM
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yes, I mean feminists who are not batshit insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 03:20 AM
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you guys need to figure out a secret sign you can throw up at us so we know you aren't the batshit "free bleeding/everything is problematic" kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 12:52 AM
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she looks pretty to me but I can just tell she is going to be extremely annoying in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 12:46 AM
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honestly it's not as fantastical as you may think it is when you are in my circles. Has nothing to do with wealth btw, in case you were wondering.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 08:52 PM
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Are you talking about being an emotional tampon for a woman? You think that will arouse them and keep them enthralled by a man?? no wonder you are confused...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 07:55 PM
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Jocky since when has literally "going outside to do some shit" become "Jocky"? You're just finding excuses for yourself. Get an indoor swimming pool membership or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 07:47 PM
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I'm sure the more experienced / more mature in RP circles have taken the time to integrate the concepts of frame into their lives but the younger ones are just on that chad look-a-like hype train going at full speed dread game with anyone who glances their way. Honestly if it wasn't for some of the more mature posters I would have written off the entirety of the RP community as butthurt nutjobs long ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 07:42 PM
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For some men it will be impossible to develop these qualities. why, because there are no shortcuts to attaining the qualities that women respond to?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 07:39 PM
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we are seeing your posts guys, this is not some secret society you're in.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 07:29 PM
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Yeah, let me know when all those responsible, trustworthy, short, fat, nerds get laid with DOMINANCE. If you're a fat nerd and you (general you, not you specifically) are older than 19-20 you are neither responsible nor trustworthy where it counts (the physical well being of another human being, naked, probably muffled, in the dark). EDIT: In the end looking good for a man is pretty much "not fat, or pimply". You score more points if you go above that, but in the end that is all you need to reac…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 07:28 PM
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The two most fundamental and arguably most common ways of influencing the opposite sex see my posted thread for some knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 07:25 PM
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Sp do women want to be dominated or not? Some don't. Some do. Some like to be dominated one night, be dominant the next. Assuming that all women want to be dominated is like assuming that all women get horny if they feel a dick inside them. Saying "be dominant" is not the same as "be confident". The latter works for any real life situation, the former requires more finesse. Are you getting my point?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 07:22 PM
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The point of working out is to be seen as attractive to these women in the first place. That's nice but in the end... submissive women generally don't care how much you resemble a runway male model. They care about how responsible and trustworthy you are. Also how much of a sick fuck you are under the conservative suit, heh "Strength" is definitely attractive to submissive women, but experience has shown me that if you are strong you don't need to get super ripped and sculpted to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 07:14 PM
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I'm going to simplify the question then: "are you aware that being a man has power in itself, that you don't need magic tricks in order to make women go hot for you?" the kind of stuff said about dominance in TRP is akin to badly organised playbook. You don't "get rough" with a woman because "all women secretly want it". You get rough with a woman once you have gleaned the level of her desire to be dominated based on conversations, the non-verbal cues you have picked up etc. Assuming that all wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 07:11 PM
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TRP is basically saying "HEY! We figured out women like this thing called Domination, you gotta have it!". Most of the people on this sub and quite a few on the TRP sub just take that and run with it. They don't understand why dominance has such a draw to many women. Most of you think dominance is imitating what chad thundercock looks like by pumping yourself up in the gym till you are ready to burst.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 06:59 PM
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Because women like dominance. Women like being lead, wanted, and pounded on. Wrong. it is because women realise that what they thought about men is not true. That they are not dogs who can be lead by the smell of vagina juices, hypnotised by heavy tits. Driven into a catatonic state by a seductive voice. That some men actually have a power of their own. That they can control their surroundings, play the emotions of their partner like a finely tuned instrument. Move in a way others can't, move ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 06:57 PM
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No shit dominance works "works". Do you think it is a magic trick that needs to be memorised and rehearsed? Why does dominance "work"? just to send your head spinning, I have known short men in their late 40's with bald heads and pot bellies having multiple partners half their age submitting to them. You think you can pull that off at 40 with a parlour trick?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 06:38 PM
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well OBVIOUSLY you didn't like it, you're into BDSM! 50 Shades of Grey is the equivalent of an old '70s porno suddenly appearing to a 13 year old on youtube without parental locks. Cheesy as hell, has nothing in relation to what is possible in reality but to a 13 year old who did not know this existed prior? Lots of wank sessions to that cheesy porno. Same deal with all these women who were not exactly excited by "romantic" soft kisses, some missionary followed by a cuddle. Discovering that ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 06:32 PM
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If I made a post about doing this same thing (I have) and advised other men to try it, (I do) BPers would label me a rapist. depends on how you talk about it though. When I talk about dominance in relationships, the first thing I go over is trust followed by rapport. What do you start with? Saying "here is a weird trick to get women making funny noises and wetting their panties. Party girls don' want you to know! click here" is not exactly going to show you in a good light (not mentioning trust …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 05:47 PM
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sure, there is material practically shouting at RP newcomers to "BE MORE DOMINANT!". I am commenting on these RP guys who still hold the belief that women can innately make men succumb to their wiles. They view all this dread game/IDGAF/dominant stuff as strategy, party tricks. They see it working but they feel like it's some magic trick confusing the female mind. They have no idea that for a large number of women, being dominated is something they have been looking for from an early age.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 05:41 PM
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too threatening and wrong considering the current social narrative? (I will preface what I am saying by assuming that showing dominance in a relationship appeals to you in some form. If you find all this dominance talk repulsive, disregard what I am about to say. You need a completely different game plan to work from.) women are holding up neon signs saying "THIS IS WHAT WE LIKE." and you are asking questions, being doubtful. No man will ever be able to build the trust necessary with a woman for…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 05:34 PM
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Do you realize that you need to be as jocky and tall and "alpha" as possible to really give women this sense of intimidation? you actually don't. Sure, I'm 6'1" but I am not buff by any means. Still, I happen to include a few physical activities in my weekly plan over the years that have kept me lean and able to manhandle objects heavier than a tablet / xbox controller. You can convey your strength more effectively than a buff dude flexing his biceps simply by walking a woman through what you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 05:24 PM
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That they use displays of vulnerability, sexual signals etc. to goad men into doing their bidding (all stuff men generally don't do simply because they can't)? Men are perfectly capable of making women do their bidding if they know what they are doing. The bland, polite, nice guy obviously has no shot at ever achieving that level of influence but depending on the woman, certain character traits combined with a well put together package can have a strange effect on a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 03:18 PM
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I eat out or get take out, use the dishwasher once a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 11:51 AM
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I pay my maid 6 hours over three days every week. I send out my laundry to be ironed once a week. Doing the laundry is a matter of dumping stuff in the washing machine then moving it into the dryer two hours later. That's the extent of it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 10:00 AM
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The penalty for rape in Islam is death. It's really the "immigrants can do no wrong" attitude that is encouraging these fuckers to go around raping women. and who in their right mind thought it was a good idea to import a giant batch of thirsty south Asians into the blond blue eyed white girl capital of the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 07:46 AM
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Yes.It.Does women today are allowed to do whatever the hell they want. So that's what you mean by affirmative action! Then great, problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 10:45 AM
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You were allowed to work and study affirmative action You Keep Using That Term, I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 06:00 AM
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-Women seem to not be attracted to emotional weakness, although I'm a bit skeptical on this point. humans are not attracted to emotional weakness. A woman crying with her friend is very, very different from a tear streaked man blubbering about the hardships of life to his partner. Women let off steam and process things with each other in various ways that are subtle/alien to men. Do not mistake a woman being emotional with her best friend as a breaking down and reverting into an infantile state.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 01:22 PM
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what is this drivel? Since WHEN have men ever been given a free pass at the work place because of their gender? We are tested from day one, we are required to be tough, to stay at the office when everyone else has gone home to meet deadlines. Men had the majority of jobs in earlier times but it was never based on a quota, it was always earned.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 01:05 PM
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The writing appears decidedly male to me and I'm the type of guy who would love to read this kind of shit. Fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 01:01 PM
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Yeah I said all this in my original comment and never inferred it was "arbitrary," but a consequence of optimization of physicality. That is how feminists seem to frame it, women were hoodwinked into changing diapers for thousands of years until one day, while the Patriarchy was distracted by a Playboy magazine, feminism swooped in to save the day! Sure, at some point the roles DID become arbitrary, that's when everyone decided women should get the vote and go get a Master's degree if they were …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 06:57 PM
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yes, exactly. A lot of feminists (especially the male ones) seem to think women are this monolithic hive mind that feels the same way about everything. For the women who have earned their place as leader/scientist/industrial magnate, who have gained the utmost trust and loyalty of their peers as the absolute best in their field, the notion of giving some soft middle of the road B players the right to govern or lead global corporations based on a quota(!) is laughable at best, alarming at worst. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 05:05 PM
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well since most profitable endeavours outside the home needed muscle in ye olden days, it wasn't just an arbitrary decision that men should travel, work the land and fight in battles while the women stayed home and tended to the offspring. Even then ambitious women found ways to gain influence. For a leader with heavy responsibilities the counsel of a woman he trusts implicitly was not a meaningless thing. Might not have been as "awesome" as holding the keys to power directly but on the upside a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 04:32 PM
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The core argument of non-radical feminists is women should be able to be a part of that apex that sounds reasonable, it's when the "how" is discussed that the feminists lose me. Equal outcome is bullshit that will reveal itself as a destructive strategy in the long run when incompetent people assigned positions of great responsibility based on gender fuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 03:25 PM
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there was a society that was female dominated. They worshipped the living embodiment of a Goddess, she was called Cleopatra. That society died when she thought she could manipulate the world the way she could her personal court, siring children from multiple men and pitting nations against each other. Her entire civilisation fell apart when an emperor from a male dominated civilisation plotted and schemed, painted her into a corner where she committed suicide in front of him as he sat watching. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 03:14 PM
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so the dangers of child bearing and the practicalities of child rearing in a world with few technological aids was not a social construct. Cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 03:10 PM
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yeah, any influence you gain in a fringe online group called "The Red Pill" would hurt your public image irl if outed (assuming a Dark Triad red piller would be important enough irl to have a public image in this scenario). The guys posting on that subreddit are in a way going out on a limb in order to help those who were like them in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 09:52 PM
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that certainly plays a huge part, but I don't see how a smug sense of superiority can lead to this "radicalised" level of excitement for the "cause". Maybe it's just me, but I have seen that people usually have boundless enthusiasm for big concepts that go beyond their immediate concerns. People are usually more excited at the prospect of changing the world (damn, how tired is this phrase by now?) as opposed to making things a little easier for themselves (whether it's acceptance, status or both…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 08:30 PM
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Right, hence the need for collectivism within feminism. I'm not sure I understand you, do you mean that there is an importance for feminists to spread feminism worldwide (to reduce outside threats and keep the peace) or are you focusing on the role feminism can play in the west in regards to groups from other cultures assimilating into it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 08:24 PM
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this is why I don't judge the newbies - it's when I see "radical" feminists at 40 bleating out ridiculous claims that I feel distaste.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 07:47 PM
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At the time I was so into this idea of having a beautiful relationship, I missed the potential for just fucking around and having fun. I actually agree with your past sentiment as I am strictly monogamous. I think a more TRP "asshole" response would be simple indifference and a cooling in the exchanges with the girl if you are focused on ideals as opposed to browbeating. I don't think TRP espouses that you fuck around like a dog in heat even if it is not your preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 07:41 PM
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the same pressures exist for women wanting to be fashion designers, singers, porn stars. this is a non-argument, if a woman has an intense interest in a field a few comments from friends and relatives won't dissuade her. If it does it's ultimately her responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 07:33 PM
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the gender gap in tech exists in western countries because women there have more options and can't be arsed doing something they don't like just to survive financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 07:03 PM
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not TRP but had to point this out: but then I find she has a bf (in another country lol) and I tell her straight up she sickens me, she should burn in hell, I hate her, I would never be with such a disgusting human being. newslfash: you aren't being an asshole. You are being an old nun. I can't speak for TRP but from what I have observed I would say they use "asshole" to describe their strategy the way I do mine: you need to have a hard edge, convey that you are not easily intimidated.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 07:01 PM
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one or two examples of rich, backward countries. well, "backward" is a matter of perspective. If the richest, most developed, technologically advanced civilisation today deemed it progressive that women should stay at home and men should go out and work, that would be the progessive view. To provide an example based on real events, it was progressive in the early 1900's to credit the most advanced civilisation at the time (europe) on the white man's superior genes. Euthanasia was a popular solut…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 06:36 PM
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Those countries are nouveau-riche monarchies. generalized prosperity You seem to be implying that there is a wealth gap among the citizens in these countries where a small minority are getting rich while the vast majority are getting poorer. If that is what you are pointing at, then you would be incorrect. Income inequality is vast in these countries but it is a case of the middle class earning six figure incomes while the elite earn in the billions. For context: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 05:48 PM
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Feminism views becoming more feminine as progress, RP views it as decline. What you stated before that line is historically accurate, I am wondering how the majority within RP frame it. A smart strategist would reach the conclusion that a feminised society leads to decline because of an awareness that other, competing civilisations are not so feminine i.e. extremely violent, mobile and not bogged down by an unwieldy bureaucratic political system (historically speaking, no such civilisation exist…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 05:34 PM
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In other words, my theory is that the men in 1st world countries had enough air conditioning, butter, salt, medicine and video games, to where they saw homosexuality and said, "ahhh, fuck it." Their paranoid, insane lizard hind brain was happy, lazy and stayed asleep. Funny you should mention air conditioning because the oil rich gulf countries have the most conservative "macho" culture on the planet yet Qatar tops the global ranking list of GDP per capita while two other gulf countries are in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 05:18 PM
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Further, at least some of what is being reported as rape stems from regret over drink-fueled encounters devoid of emotional connection. hooooly shit!!!! Glad girls were less insane back in the early '00s.... I might just kill myself if I was going to college in this kind of a toxic environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 10:27 AM
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This is a ridiculous premise. A man who cheats is a weak man, who is not strong enough to impose his will, choose a partner who accepts that he wants to be with other women. You make a promise, you keep it. You want to fuck other chicks, find a woman who understands and accepts that. It's called polyamory, google it. Men who make a life long promise, are spineless enough to break it out of cowardice and want to convince themselves that "It won’t make any difference" get no respect from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 05:49 PM
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hehehe
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 12:12 PM
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I believe that you are not following my logic. Experienced guys don't "rate". They enjoy the hunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 12:07 PM
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I will neither confirm or deny that. but yeah, my point still stands. The more you know about a person the more likely your "rating" will shift to one end of the spectrum or the other. Hence, it is seen as a sign of worldly experience that one does not jump to conclusions from a quick glance at a still photo.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 12:03 PM
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If you've imprinted on 100 girls.... You are going to rate a broad section of humanity "fairly" in comparison to other girls... If you have been with 100 girls, you don't "imprint" on them. You have a wider array of knowledgeable observations to compare with than "tits, face, ass". One woman who shares the features or mannerisms of someone you were with before won't turn you into a weak kneed pedestaliser, it puts a knowing smile on your face and confidence in approaching her - because you recog…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 11:44 AM
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you can "smudge" around the edges but in the end, old habits die hard. Plus, it's a lot of effort for little gain in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 11:26 AM
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So now I'm looking for decent sized shoulders as well as wit. (resists urge to tease you about your ebony Adonis fixation) granted, I might have shot myself in the foot by mis-stating that ALL qualities develop through discovery (who doesn't like witty banter?) but yeah, there are some qualities you discover along the way as you just described.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 11:16 AM
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But it's less about previous experiences and more about qualities that respective person finds attractive. I am sure there was a time in your life when you look back on it, you realise that you had no idea at the time what you really wanted out of a partner/fwb/etc. Is that a fair assessment? I agree with your statement that qualities play a large role, but recognising them may have required going through a few experiences first, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 10:58 AM
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The mechanism you first outlined should work in the opposite way you envisaged. That's because you are taking the example literally. Sure, if the hypothetical guy only had the one relationship with the anna paquin lookalike, he will fixate on anna paquin. Guess what? He's inexperienced. You need to extrapolate the example to multiple relationships, multiple experiences. As I mentioned in another post, one's preferences are not shaped solely by past experience, rather past experience adds more cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 10:55 AM
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But its still possible to look at two pics and say she's hotter than her. Doing that without saying, hey wait, I don't know every intricacy of these two women so it's meaningless to distinguish, in an online environment, doesn't really say much. the more relationships you are in, the more you realise that you can't change people. That's when a pretty face or a nice body becomes meaningless without knowing if the person fits your type. If you are TRP and you find that you are attracted to the RPW…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 10:50 AM
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Well actually I dot. The "previous experience" thing may be true for him, but I haven't experienced it. I think everyone is focusing on the wrong thing, probably because English is not my first language. I am not claiming that all your preferences are based on past experience, more that your experience affects what you perceive as attractive. You mature, you go beyond the conventional, you discover qualities in others that you realise are attractive to you which cannot be captured in a photo or …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 10:38 AM
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the premise of the post summed up: if you have a list, don't rattle it off at the drop of a hat or you will be perceived as inexperienced. If you do mention names, better have insightful reasons as to why and not just "'cause she has a nice rack". That's my view at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 10:26 AM
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Even if you concede your mechanism (which I would not except as a devils advocate) that mechanism should produce the opposite result. The inexperienced guys fixating on a type, and rating girls outside that poorly.... And the experienced guys having a broad baseline to rate women against. On the contrary, the wider your experience the more finely tuned your perception. It's not so much a fixation as it is a recognition when observing others. The phrase "I know that type" comes to mind. You won't…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 10:19 AM
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sure. I can give plenty. The way they move, indications of subconscious submissiveness towards those they are attracted to, unblemished skin, the way they laugh, the way they breath when they are moved or excited. All of which developed through interacting with real women as opposed to watching celebrities on a screen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 10:11 AM
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And I'm not sure what your point is with the courtney example, she's conventionally hot there, you don't need to see the wild side in her eyes to want to fuck her. the point was pretty clear, even conventionally attractive women can be seen as "average" to guys who only have tv/porn as a point of reference. Again, I want to stress that this is the perception one gives off if they don't have articulate reasoning behind their choices. In other words, if a girl asks you to rate celebrities the defa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 10:01 AM
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And Blair Underwood was never built like an Adonis. Even in his youth. He doesn't exactly have a dad bod either. Admit it, you want our darker skinned brothers to work TWICE as hard for HALF as much! (and yes, I am enjoying myself)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 09:58 AM
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Uuuuuuhm... no? Apart from the fact that your reasoning hinges on hooking up with an Anna Paquin-lookalike It doesn't. My reasoning is based on experiences shaping one's preferences. The more generic the preferences, the more likely one is inexperienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 09:43 AM
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women in their 20s usually have a warped image of what a 40 year old man would look like. If a man maintains himself he can stay looking young well into his mid 40s. As an example, here is Brad Pitt at 40: http://www.moviestarspicture.com/photos/brad-pitt-movies/brad-pitt-in-movie-troy-2004.jpg These 20 year olds complaining about men in their 40s hitting on them probably wouldn't include 40 year old Brad Pitt in that list.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 09:24 AM
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you can get it down to a mathematical science of facial proportions. Nothing says relationship experience like a mathematical facial proportion algorithm! What I am driving at isn't so much whether people are universally accepted as attractive or not, it's how one is perceived when they do not back up their list with a rational. If all you can come up with is "dunno, she's hot" or "it can be scientifically proven" it reveals a more shall we say, abstract understanding than practical. EDIT: Wante…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 09:20 AM
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Imo it's possible to rate the physical attractiveness of people without dragging their character or skills into the picture. Dude, have you seen the starfish documentary otherwise known as the Kim Kardashian sex tape? Her attractiveness turned to cold revulsion after I watched that abomination...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 09:15 AM
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Lance Gross Idris Elba Morris Chestnut Blair Underwood All the dark skinned brothers you listed (well, except for Wale) are in peak physical condition, with bodies Adonis would envy. Meanwhile the lighter skinned boys get a pass for being hipster skinny! REVERSE COUNTER RACISM! J'ACCCUSE ...! Nah, just found it amusing. My cousins with darker skin who are skinnier than me had no problems with western European women back in our college days. It's all personal preference in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 09:11 AM
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I support the right for women to have an abortion if it is their choice, to not support that results in numerous life tragedies. When it comes to a woman I am in a relationship with? This chick's statement is completely ridiculous. I want to see her say something like that to her SO when she gets pregnant (assuming she hooked up with someone who actually gets her aroused as opposed to a spineless whipping boy).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 05:20 PM
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I would say that women in their late 30s / early 40s are undesirable if they have the same expectations from men/dating they had at 20. Women who have matured into their own (while maintaining themselves) are highly desirable. You might think that this is obvious but from my experience, 40+ year old women who think like girls barely out of their teens (at least in the relationship department) are quite common. Quick to stir up drama, always wanting all of the man's time, jealousy, holding grudge…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 05:10 PM
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I think Cuba Gooding Jr. Is a better black man average who I would actually date even if he isn't as insanely hot as the hot ones I posted. And Chiwetel Ejiofor. I detect a paper bag skin tone bias, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 04:50 PM
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You consider a woman who fully believes in a natural hierarchy where males are above females and even prefers it, to be of questionable character? Bizarre, from a TRPer.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 08:43 PM
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the sex drive of a woman is not as relevant to how promiscuous she is as much as her need for a long term commitment to a single person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 05:10 PM
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Conventional wisdom states that certain hardships benefit individuals when equal opportunity is available to all. As a feminist, do you strive to remove hardships? Are you focused more on equal opportunity or equal outcome for all?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 05:07 PM
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if you don't ascribe to any gender, aren't you genderqueer?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 04:46 PM
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glad to hear it. The question of social acceptance gains more significance in your later years (rising in social status, family, legacy etc.) but yeah, you're still young. You have a lot of time to adjust according to your priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 03:59 PM
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Do you worry that if you are honest with her she will believe that you have been scamming her? Curious why you are proud that: "she doesn't suspect a thing about me"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 12:50 PM
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Has the fact that your profession makes you a social outcast made you change your outlook on society? (Outcast not in terms of hissing from strangers on the street, more that others may be wary of forming a connection with you because of your job, similar to what those who have gone to jail for petty crimes experience)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 12:43 PM
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Seems pretty obvious to me if you want to appeal to women then you should listen to what they have to say. not trp but that is an opinion the inexperienced commonly share. Hetero women usually have the least amount of practical knowledge on the best approaches to attracting other women sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 02:57 AM
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difference is that a female dominant is honest about it, even makes the male submissive watch and video it if she is so inclined. The thing is, if the male submissive makes it clear that he does not consent to polyamorous dynamics in the relationship, a female dominant will refrain from going behind his back. She will either convince him, let him go or settle for a monogamous relationship. Communication and consent are important factors in D/s relationships. At the end of the day a submissive ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 02:25 AM
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What type of real world behavior makes for a submissive man? submission.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 06:12 AM
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as our natures can be greatly enforced by our immediate environments. if your nature is malleable, shifts according to your immediate environment, chances are you're submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 06:08 AM
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This has never actually happen in history, every women with a submissive man is a beta bucks, meaning he isn't getting laid, because she is to tired , or not feeling sexy. daaaaamn! You need to learn like everyone else who has grown up, not to talk about matters you have zero actual knowledge of. Quit this red pill dogma bullshit and find out the actual truth for yourself. I am not submissive so I can't speak to male submissives' motivations, however I have been around long enough to know that f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 06:06 AM
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If all you'd said was it was one method of achieving innovation I'd have agreed with you, it is. It just isn't the only method. it is the most prominent one, should have clarified. Still, Alexander the Great - as daring as he was - still needed scouts to move his armies forward. Even without the clarification my original point still stands - women are unequal to men in terms of historic achievement. I doubt I will see that gap shift in my lifetime but I am optimistic it will occur.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 10:51 PM
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Ok well I guess that settles it! Pack it up everyone, every single major achievement is due to risk-taking. Building off previous research, or working collaboratively with many others, or even accident/chance played no role whatsoever! yep. Isaac Newton's mathematical description of gravity may have never happened without that chance encounter with an apple, but it definitely would not have been possible had he been unwilling to take financial, emotional and health risks in order to see his insp…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 10:12 PM
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In terms of 'unprovoked' mockery, I'd say that in adulthood men ridicule them more I don't see this. Never seen some beta dude getting mocked/laughed at by another guy for asking directions on the street. The man being asked would size the guy up in his head but on the surface he will mostly be non-committal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 09:14 PM
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They are mocking them that's the thing, warranted or not I see women doing most of the mocking. I'm not putting women down for mocking nice guys (hell, sometimes it helps them get a life), just saying that men don't really care enough to mock. That's why I disagree with the OP's assertion that it's men who ridicule nice guys, creeps, losers etc. while women remain largely indifferent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 09:11 PM
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I saw your point, and within 1 second I found a post that obliterated your point. Actually you didn't. Whether they are creepy or pathetic, women are invested in ridiculing beta men. Men aren't. You're getting a gut instinct reaction from that image you shared and talking about it, probably going to send it to a few friends with a witty caption. Guys look at that and say "what a loser" to themselves, forget about it three seconds later and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 09:02 PM
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I posted that sub and you missed the point of it. Creepy or not, men don't notice betas - unless it is to inflict bodily harm on them for harassing a friend or loved one. We don't ridicule, make fun of or bully. We barely think of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 08:51 PM
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Yeah I have an insiticttual reaction of "beware." I doubt some guy telling you a sappy romantic line about being your white knight in any way makes you feel threatened. There are the creeps and the nice guys, both get a lot of attention from women. Men on the other hand just ignore them, they don't even warrant a conversation piece with friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 08:46 PM
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Men did not play a pivotal role because of masculinity or anything inherent in men, as the RPer I quoted argued. Every major achievement that has pushed humanity forwards was due to the daring work of extreme risk takers. Who is more likely to take risks between the two genders?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 08:45 PM
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Cooperation and agreeableness aren't exclusive to men, your post suggests that men having a significant and pivotal role in the advancement of human civislisation to be a myth. This is so far off the mark it's hilarious. In case you don't realise it, we built towers that reached the sky and flew to the moon just because we could.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 07:50 PM
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you may not like it but you just made my point. Women are not indifferent to beta men attempting to approach them in awkward ways. Further, your stance that it is out of fear/intimidation is inaccurate when you take into account the other types of beta men that women ridicule. There's an entire subreddit of women mocking these betas and their false attempts at sincerity: /r/niceguys
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 07:46 PM
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IME in the real social world, men are usually the ones who bully and ridicule and make fun of men like this. Women might be indifferent or not responsive to his sexual advances, but the "ridicule" and "bullying" typically comes from other men. I've noticed this from pre-K to college to adult world. Have to disagree on this one. Like most men, I am indifferent to awkward "beta" men because they won't pose a challenge to me. Women on the other hand are constantly amused by all the "losers" who att…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 05:00 PM
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So rather than relying on brute defensive strength, inventions, or buildings (all things which pre-historic cultures can boast of), what seemed to facilitate large-scale civilization is our ability to be agreeable and cooperate with one another, something even RPers give women credit for. You don't seem to have a thorough grasp of how well men worked as a tight unit in the planning and building of large scale cities, in the sophistication exhibited by empires when embarking on massive colonisati…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 04:51 PM
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This is a good question. Men have a tougher time defining themselves in this world - as a woman if all else fails you can be a stay at home mother. Not that being a mother is in any way easy but it is a Get Out of Jail card in terms of life choices. There is no such card for men, we have to make our own way in the world, establish ourselves by defining why we are here. Having said that, the reward for establishing yourself is much greater for men. If as a man you succeed, society recognises your…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 07:52 AM
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yeah, when I say obligation it is to yourself and to the partner's emotional well being - not a hard rule with consequences if not followed. You put it nicely: I try to be cognizant of the reasons for my own mental and emotional health. Sex with him is amazing, so if there is a dip in the quantity, I personally will explore why.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 06:10 PM
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"I just wanna chill" <- that's perfectly reasonable "no thanks, not feelin' you right now" <- opens up a can of worms (if given repeatedly)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:44 PM
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not sure why you are being downvoted. Not feeling like having sex is never a "wrong" thing, being dismissive or distancing yourself is a different matter. Communication is important, nobody wants to feel like they are sharing a bed with an annoyed roomie.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:00 PM
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if two people aren't getting along, they usually aren't interested in sex with each other? we got a long "fine". Things just fizzled out. Miscommunication was a part of it I believe. One thing about me is that I don't overtly ask a girlfriend the way I would offer her a can of coke from the fridge. I just move in to get things started. Being held close and remarking with "not into it at the moment", more than a bit odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:39 PM
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That's exactly how I feel. Me having the right to say anything I want does not mean it's healthy to brush off my partner whenever she is interested in being intimate, saying that it's not going to happen "just 'cause". There are consequences to distancing yourself from those close to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:20 PM
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"I just don't feel like it" is a problematic explanation if it keeps re-occurring. The two relationships I was in that did not last a year had that "I just don't feel like it" reason cropping up with more frequency as things deteriorated.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:12 PM
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Not that I buy into the w pipe dream of becoming "Alpha" at retirement age but about this: Most guys at the gym/bars/clubs have bad skin and are balding. have to wonder. Now I'm not the best judge of male prettiness but I would say up to a certain age men who take care of themselves don't change all that much. Let's try an experiment. See if you can guess the age and occupation of the men in the below pictures: Picture A Picture B
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 04:46 AM
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also a lot of people underestimate lean/thin men when it comes to strength based on their build. This guy has a vapid expression in that pic but he doesn't strike me as physically weak. To the TRPers who only judge based on bulk, are you going to say that because Bruce Lee or Donnie Yen are lean that you can beat them up in a fight?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 01:16 PM
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Women "were" never excluded from Microsoft, Apple, Atari, Commodore etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 12:26 AM
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Women were kept out and they had no choice. Now you're just pulling things out of your ass. The tech industry has the lowest social barriers to entry out there, it was founded by misfits.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 06:04 PM
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Oh I see. It is much more enjoyable in the long run when you attract women based on your character as opposed to the "whatever works" approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 05:42 PM
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What's so bad about putting pussy on the pedestal IF you get laid by it? what? You a closet blooper or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 10:40 AM
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Okay, you caught me. Obviously, I only included the word switch for skittles and laughs. We can't have anything in common, especially when you're clearly masturbating. Being a submissive with Service Top tendencies has no relation to the experience of those who are Dominant or Master.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 01:44 PM
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This is meaningless advice. We all need to explore, find ourselves and grow. No one is automatically fully formed the instant they learn to use words. That is what you imply when you say "just be yourself".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 01:04 PM
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I still see Laura J. Mixon's forcing Benjanun Sriduangkaew to capitulate by making her face the facts as an excellent example of holding frame. Then again, I may have a deeper understanding of what maintaining the dominant position in an exchange entails than you do. You seem to think that holding frame involves a sneering attitude towards the other. This works in some cases, in others you will lose ground with that approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 12:43 PM
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As a male submissive leaning switch, I'm especially able to call you guys out on your brain damaged ALPHA FUX/BETA BUX bullshit. Have not met many male submissives who were desperate to prove that the only successful method to find partners and stay in long term relationships with women is to become their property. Your views are useless to red pillers because you are the antithesis of a dominant leaning male. Your views are of no use to sadistic Dominant such as myself in a long term M/s relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 09:25 AM
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A Lamborghini Huracan costs around $237,000. A lower-middle class household with three children would be spending around $5,500 monthly if you factor in the kids' education, necessities as well as food, mortgage, utilities etc. At that rate, the lower-middle class family would have spent the equivalent of a Huracan's sticker price in three and a half years. While you might reach a level where you can buy a Lamborghini, where it's a big purchase, you would need to keep purchasing Lamborghinis eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 10:54 PM
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Just googled her. Pretty enough but she looks kinda 'empty'. I see the complete opposite, a more ethereal quality. How old are you? She was more of a sex symbol in the '90s.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 11:32 AM
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tl'dr: heterosexual people cannot objectively judge the attractiveness of others sharing their gender. I don't see why it needs explanation. Think about it: ever looked at some guy all the girls are gushing over and thought to yourself "that skinny dude? I don't get it". Same deal with girls. For girls I think it's more that they don't see why men would go crazy over purely physical attributes. To illustrate this, here is a picture of a naked woman. EDIT: Photo taken down in respect to the wishe…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 11:22 AM
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I don't get it either tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 11:02 AM
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Hahahahahaahahaha, wow. Dude, as a male submissive you are just trolling right now by arguing with TRPers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 10:44 AM
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My husband thinks Liv Tyler is very ordinary probably does not want you to suspect anything, like maybe his secret Liv Tyler sex altar. I have not met a single man, from the time she appeared in that Aerosmith video right up until today, who would consider Liv Tyler plain.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 09:53 AM
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they see this kind of rape as getting some sort of revenge on their opponents and completely crushing them by raping their women. in a lot of cases there is no emotion, soldiers under the control of a despot are completely desensitized in order to carry out orders involving extreme cruelty or violence. Due to the deadening of their emotions in training a lot of the time soldiers in armies that carry out these types of attacks are required by their commanding officers to swallow viagra before an …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 12:20 PM
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that's because they aren't in their 30s, probably 19-20 themselves. 19-20 year old females are still girls, women that age usually don't have a high sex drive or a desire to explore. Note that I said usually, there are exceptions of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 01:43 PM
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Not TRP but this isn't a false assertion: a lot of men's prospects improve with age. The reason a man in his 30s is doing better than in his 20s: His looks will not have drastically changed if he has maintained himself He will have gained the confidence and maturity that makes him able to present himself better when approaching women. He should be better off financially/more worldly than he was in his 20s, hence is able to project confidence in a manner that fits his personality better than when…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 01:36 PM
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It's not a great mystery: if you pedestalise a certain type of woman whether it's the perky blonde or the edgy goth, it's going to show in your vibe towards them. If Indians stopped pedestalising blondes they would be more receptive to them. It's the classic Lionel Richie effect, you keep chasing a specific type (white women) your SMV drops down to zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 01:18 PM
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This sounds like an article from Ladies' Home Journal on how to spice up your marriage circa 1985. they recommended a forced kidnapping? Those housewives must have been hardcore in the '80s.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 08:45 PM
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all married people? A more correct statement would be that marriage doesn't guarantee a steady supply of sex. Also, sex gets stale and boring if you aren't willing to explore farther than what you are accustomed to with plates.Sex is getting stale? Set up a swing in the bedroom or something (I heard those are pretty awesome). I've heard of some crazy stories from some couples. Elaborate kidnappings, break-ins. You can do a lot of crazy stuff once you start mind fucking your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 08:04 PM
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Education does not automatically make a woman "domineering", you need to develop the skills needed to discover the personality traits you appreciate in a woman. If they are there in a woman, having a PhD won't change them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 12:45 PM
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hmm. Looking down on men who are submissive is as bad as one true way-ism in the kink scene. It's a relationship between consenting adults, none of our concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 02:34 PM
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hypergamy confirmed! :D
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 02:31 PM
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evo psych based Dilbert comic http://www.dailyfailcenter.com/sites/default/files/fail/ab5nm0X_700b_v2.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 02:24 PM
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Are you female? Nope. Seen it in a few females, helped one discover that ability in herself. Go and poll /r/askwomen[1] about how common rolling orgasms are. Not all women can have them. I can imagine. Which is too bad. You can learn to do it by yourself, a few resources around out there. you said earlier: Nope. Too sensitive afterwards. where did you get the idea that you need to keep touching/"etc." in order to get a rolling orgasm, porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 12:55 PM
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I feel sorry for you now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 11:45 AM
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If you are a woman: you've never experienced a rolling orgasm before? Multiple in a row for an extended period?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 11:35 AM
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take two light bulbs, both rated at the same wattage. Stare at one for ten seconds then switch it off. Stare at the other one for a minute straight, then switch it off. Which experience of the two would you consider more intense?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 10:12 AM
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I didn't say that. I said MORE women would probably have sex if it was good for them too. That's because most women are freaks who won't to admit it, so they end up stuck with The Amazing Missionary Man - complaining all the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 10:05 AM
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How often does that happen? It seems like the worst people are being used to attack everyone else. I didn't see it as attacking everyone, I saw the OP as explaining the behaviour of that type who have very low self esteem and use moral superiority to increase their attractiveness. It obviously doesn't work - no one I associate with irl acts this way (male or female). EDIT: I don't agree with the OP that a movement like HAES was founded on the principle of devaluing conventional standards, but I …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 02:26 PM
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Who cares about accurate media representation? Who cares about mental health, violence, suicides? You have a penis! And it asks all the hard questions! (Pun very definitely intended.) The OP specifically stated: people who call out others for having standards I've known a few friends who ranted once or twice about media representation over the years. They are quite secure in themselves and do not take it farther than the occasional rant. Some loser who constantly keeps "objecting" when someone o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 02:04 PM
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That's a terf. Most so-called 'SJW's hate them too Someone online (cis, white , female, immature) who I had a few amicable exchanges with in a social network went berserk, calling me and a few others sexist, misogynist etc. The reason? A bunch of us in a chatroom agreed that it's wrong to misgender MtF transgenders, but if one loses attraction after discovering this fact it is sexual preference - even if it makes no sense it is how they feel. As long as it is done honestly in the beginning it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 08:58 AM
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Why is being a so called, 'SJW' bad? because of views like this: https://i.imgur.com/nfmTLJP.png EDIT: I should point out that I don't find them bad, just cringe worthy in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 08:13 PM
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Any woman who makes $30k or below annually, is younger than 25 (can't fathom anyone over 25 with that low a salary), has no ambitions and has no interest in a career would be trophy wife material. How is it a myth exactly? Now, successful men who are secure in themselves do not touch these types with a ten foot pole. The only rich men who date/marry women only interested in status and money have serious insecurities or know that they are at an age that is not appropriate socially for a certain d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 12:43 PM
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If only they knew how on the money this is, hehe but then again you'd have to prove you are trustworthy by getting someone to accept your collar, having a solid D/s open relationship with them, keeping it going for a few years. Could be a drag for some of these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 06:49 AM
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Holding Frame: Resisting an attempt to alter or disrupt the Frame, usually by making an accusation, attempting to change to subject, or otherwise disrupting the flow of communication. Yep, not being phased by Benjanun, compelling her to apologise was a perfect example of "Resisting an attempt to alter or disrupt the Frame". EDIT: Others losing Frame with Benjanun: It’s easy when a controversy like this occurs to shrug and call it fanwankery, or a tempest in a teapot; or to loftily counsel the pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 06:23 AM
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I'm playing devil's advocate Ah, gotcha. but yeah my ex did do a lower grade variant of these to me at times. My mom also managed to turn her whipping Dad into him being an abuser in the divorce courts, boy that was scary Whoah. Ironically my ability to hold frame is predicated on my belief that women are just as smart/mature as I am. If I convinced myself that women have the emotional maturity of a 14 year old I'd be letting a lot of stuff slide under the radar.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 06:09 PM
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not consistent intense manipulation of my comprehension in order to illicit control over me. of course. Is this common in your past relationships? I have sussed out this kind of behaviour only twice in a span of 15 years and the interaction in both cases never went past a few dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 05:35 PM
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No. Men and women test others, especially their partners, in different ways. That does not mean that women in general gas light everyone they are close to. EDIT: I am not disagreeing with you on the point that there are women who use gas lighting techniques, just your assertion that "most women" are experts at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 05:22 PM
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to induce guilt, anxiety and shame, that's the thing, in the majority of women it is not meant to distress you, it is meant to test you. The instant you understand that you will not feel the above, you will be able to pass the test of character.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 05:08 PM
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Someone is better than you at something, work on yourself. You need to in order to hold your own. EDIT: Most women are not gas lighting you, they are challenging you. How you respond proves your worthiness. I don't see it as a problem, per se.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 04:57 PM
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Plenty of women out there in western Europe who are into masculine guys, they generally don't go or one night stands though (from what I have gathered from friends in France and the UK). If you are open to commit, there are some smoking hot young women in Europe who are attracted to male leader types.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 02:04 PM
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Urban Renaissance dominant dark guy Looks don't make you dominant. Looks don't magically transform you into a Renaissance Man. Dominant = ability to dominate Renaissance Man = multiple competencies/talents For a man there is one thing more important than money/status, ability to achieve.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 01:55 PM
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I'm not Red Pill, but I am the "male leader" in my current relationship. From the very first two paragraphs, I can point out five red flags that would make any service oriented / submissive woman run for the hills. Why would women want a relationship like this? Short answer: They don't. Not even a traditionally submissive woman would want a relationship like that. A man who raises so many significant red flags would not be able to gain the trust of a consenting adult - no matter how badly they d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 01:50 PM
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Do you have a fit every time you look at a PSA? I go out, buy a CRT tv, bring it back home and wait for these damned PSAs. When I spot the right one I shoot the TV with a rifle. BAM! You are shit testing in a CMV thread about shit testing. Classic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 03:24 AM
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That's the hypocrisy communities exhibit when a well loved celebrity/politician/athlete commits a crime. If it was some regular joe posting instagrams or youtube videos of an incapacitated woman being used sexually, you'd see a very different response. It's a good thing they were found guilty, though 1-2 years in juvie is nowhere near a just verdict.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 07:11 PM
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Women in their early to mid 20s aren't looing for traits that convey potential to ability. They are looking for gina tingles, and who causes gina tingles to women? Chad. That hasn't been my experience, then again where I went to college masculinity was considered appealing in men. Very few androgynous dudes were "Alpha Fucks".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 06:29 PM
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Well , rape does happen and sexual assault definitely happens (and it's probably more common than you think) . Of course, I am saying it is not universally accepted as the norm just because it doesn't happen in a dark alley. EDIT: however I don't see why raising awareness is a bad thing. raising awareness is never a bad thing. I just see the "teach men no to rape" campaigns as reverting to shaming tactics rather than a sincere attempt at shining a light on the issue. "some random person on the i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 06:12 PM
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Intelligence? Women can't gauge IQ with their eyes. he's getting laid so clearly it is being noticed in the words he is using. He had no intellectual or artistic gifts, and they didn't take part in sports. All of the men I saw getting laid in college were tall, pretty boys who could work as models. Maybe a little too skinny. Sounds like submissive men are more popular than dominant men where you went to college. If that is the case, these males are being judged by more feminine standards than ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 06:10 PM
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It is based on the idea that most people only think rape is something that happens in a dark alley at night and that date rape is not considered "real rape" . Is that really true? I honestly don't think so. Even in the literally patriarchal society I currently live in (us men straight up rule shit over here, no female political leaders allowed), forcing a woman to take it where consent is not expressly given is viewed as rape. In a marriage, on a date or inside an apartment. I find it hard to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 06:00 PM
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Tell me what achievements a 1st year college student has to be able to bang women who can work as international models easily, and who can also make average women(not fat) humiliate themselves for a shot to suck Alpha dick? Bear in mind that potential is just as attractive as achievement: Physically fit (implies discipline and represents strength/vitality) Athletic, intellectual or artistic talent (potential to achieve) Intelligence One trait alone isn't enough of course, but it definitely augme…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 05:44 PM
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Women are more likely to lust after a physically attractive poor man than an ugly millionaire . Depends on the qualities of the ugly millionaire. Hell, the younger Einstein was an "ugly" poor man who had no problems getting laid due to his intellectual brilliance. While women are deemed attractive to a large extent based on looks (on average, obviously there are those including me who look for more than mere physical beauty) men are deemed attractive based on either their achievements or their p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 01:30 PM
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In the study, Garcia instructed 181 student volunteers at SUNY to take an anonymous survey on their previous sexual behavior, asking them questions like how many sex partners they had and if they had ever been unfaithful. "science" Not that I buy into the idea that all women cheat the first chance they get but this is just pathetic. This "scientist" Cum Hoc fallacy-ed all over the place (latin pun, nailed it). No wonder "scientific theories" today have the shelf life of whole milk...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 12:53 PM
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hmm. I read somewhere that teenage girls who prefer the boy band look are afraid of masculinity, that they feel "safer" around more effeminate looking "boys" with less bulk and hair growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 08:45 AM
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holy shit! the INSTANT I heard the characteristically white knight voice I grabbed my chair and box of pop corn. It got awesome when that self improvement speech was met with a drawn out "awww!"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 07:39 AM
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The thing is, 48 year old dudes are so unattractive to most fifteen year old girls that a girl who likes one is pretty much admitting to having major emotional problems. by that logic, hot MILF 48 year old cheerleader looked like the old crone from Snow White to this 15 year old boy because she was "old". BTW, a fit male at 48 is not going to appear his age. Tom Cruise is 53
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 07:10 AM
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I honestly think the judge knows that teenage boys are horny and view fucking an older woman as a "win." It said the victim was kind of fucked up by it, actually. I do not understand this generation. If I was asked what my life goals are at 15, getting my dick sucked by a MILF cheerleader would be high on the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 07:07 AM
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Yeah, the article I read actually broke down this thirty something teacher's (WTF?!) text and email exchange with her student. Her language patterns actually regressed. Clearly trying relive glory days. link? I am intrigued.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 07:04 AM
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What can one do help with that. I know the answer 3rd wave feminists are looking for! Multi-storey Womyn's Comfort Centres!! Five floors of pure feminist equality to the one patriarchal bathroom. Keep going with these rationalisations, I'll go grab my popcorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 05:53 AM
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Not sure why you would resort to immature sarcasm but that is on you. There are many relationship dynamics that I do not find appealing, I don't judge the people who choose to live that way. They are private relationships, not human rights battle arenas.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 12:33 PM
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Would you want to be in a relationship like this? I have been in a relationship dynamic where the male has total authority. This is based on mutual desire rather than an imposed cultural/social norm. How it works in practice: A division of labour is instated based on our strong suites and what we are comfortable with. I am the DIY fix-it guy, she is the cook. I dislike the idea of my partner taking on the responsibility of cleaning/washing by herself, and I do not clean. I usually take on the fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 12:28 PM
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The dynamic of one person always being in charge, whilst the other is always taking orders is rarely successful when you are dealing with two adults. Even in Captain/first mate RP/traditional type relationships, both partners have responsibilities and autonomy on certain aspects. A dynamic where one is the dictator and the other is a mindless drone does not work, that is true. However, relationships where one partner defers to the other's judgement are more prevalent than you think especially if…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 11:57 AM
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I agree with /u/dragoness_leclerq's post in this thread. 3rd wave feminists seem to be a bunch of young girls/women trying to deal with massive insecurities by obsessing over "causes" they have zero impact on (human rights abuses in far flung third world countries) or trite issues (the thermostat setting of A/C systems in offices as one example). EDIT: Reminds me of the cognitive dissonance exhibited by racist women in '50s America who ran charity drives for "the poor starving children of Africa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 11:49 AM
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Two type A's are usually compatible when they take on complementary roles in private. Whether the roles are fixed or whether they switch on certain aspects, one has to be the leader and the other has to be the follower. I have yet to see a successful relationship among two high achieving career couples where both take the lead. I am of course speaking anecdotally, you can't judge the relationships of public figures with any credibility (unless they wrote a book about their personal life).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 11:38 AM
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but "power couples", where both are type A, high achieving people have been around a long time. Many of which have a dominant/submissive dynamic to them (usually not apparent in public). There are sub-groups of type A's: The ones who need to be lead in private as a way to unwind after dealing with heavy responsibilities in the outside world, usually perfectionists (or OCD) who find decision making taxing on their psyche. The ones who are "control freaks", where it is easier for them to cope and …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 11:21 AM
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When I think of "jerk" behaviour in my fellow men, I think of the guy who has no tact, who cracks jokes on others' expense but who ultimately is found to be honest once you get to know him. I separate a "jerk" from a liar, hypocrite or a cheat. I would say that most women have zero tolerance for untrustworthiness, very few women would stick around after their trust is broken. The examples you cited seem to be the result of either bad judgement or a lack of practical options (the woman is either …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 11:16 AM
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of course, they have nothing on the mighty Aryan race! This isn't your local neo Nazi tree house buddy, these ideas of yours are of no value in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 12:15 PM
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Hispanic. :/ No Black women pls. If I wanted to date a man, I'd be gay. Hispanics - the Indians of the Americas, lol (oh wait, Christopher Columbus already made that joke...)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:33 AM
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Do you actually act this way towards your wife? This is the opinion that annoys me the most when expressed by female co-workers/friends. That if a woman is not approached with complete reverence she will throw up in her mouth. Guess what? There are men who are highly traditional. There are men who firmly believe in a top-down hierarchy of the genders. There are women who are extremely controlling. There are women who view men as inferior, to exist grovelling under their 6" heels. All these types…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:57 AM
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I'm going to take a wild guess here: the RP guys who say black women are bottom of the barrel - probably Indian or East Asian. This is a cultural thing, don't take any notice of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:12 AM
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expert on gender relations, That comma, is exactly the point at which I have stopped taking you seriously /u/Pleb-Tier_Basic
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 11:19 AM
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of course. No one is forcing women to have kids. In any case, men like me who don't have an age cap for women when it comes to LTRs usually don't want kids (or are masochists who are willing to ride the miscarriage/in vitro/adoption hell ride along with their partner). EDIT: about this There is always a chance this will happen even if you have a kid at 15 sure, that is a possibility. It turns into a logical fallacy when it is stretched to proclaim that a 15-23 year old female (15 is a pretty cra…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 10:31 AM
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that is the problem, they are postponing pregnancy until the baby rabies kick in I don't get exactly what the problem is . Congenital Abnormalities EDIT: There is always this 3%-4% statistic in articles on the topic but believe me, when it hits you, it won't feel 3%-4% as bad as a real tragedy. Speaking as someone who has watched a family friend (career woman) birth a child in her late 30s only for that infant to grow into a troubled man with severe ADHD, Keratoconus and slight retardation. It m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 09:36 AM
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Meh, I've seen F to M transsexuals (that might be the wrong term, whatever) say that it's harder to live as a woman than it is as a man. well yeah, because they identify as men and consider their life before transition to be forced torture. Try living as the complete opposite gender you feel inside for a year and get back to me on which one is easier to handle.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 08:54 PM
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yep, absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 06:10 PM
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you don't even need red pill to know that hypergamy is real: Chicks date the best guy they can find - doesn't matter how long it takes. Guys date the best chick they can find - as soon as is humanly possible. It's not unusual for a woman to be in a FWB type situation until something better comes along for years at a time. A man being single for 3-4 years? Highly unusual. Any potential dates would wonder about that. and the "up" doesn't have to be some physical/financial/social advantage between …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 05:07 AM
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join a yoga or dancing class. that's an interesting suggestion. Women can pick up on your vibe if you're there just to "hook up". Also, there is a possibility the kind of women OP is into would not find a man doing physical activities "on her level" to be attractive. If one or the other arise as problems, he will end up stuck in a bad situation. An alternative would be rock climbing or doubles tennis / racquetball. Something more gender neutral where you can still socialise afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 04:47 AM
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Come on.... are you still really saying that the worst TRPer would never call women dumb? I don't know, it's pretty hard for a group to claim that they preach universal truths (amoral, objective) while at the same time believing in some truly dumb shit. Are they seriously going to call someone as accomplished as Marissa Mayer dumb and still claim they are objective? I'll let RP guys handle this one, give them the benefit of the doubt. My hunch is the sidebar quote relates to relationships/sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 02:14 AM
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as far as I understand it, they act this way when they are either pursuing a woman or in a relationship with one. Would not mind a correction from one of the members of TheRedPill but yeah, I think this whole teenager mind thing applies to sexual/relationship strategy not their view of all women. I'm sure a lot of these guys have female superiors at work, can't see them being able to continue earning a pay cheque by treating their Managers/Employers like they are teen valley girls mentally.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 11:48 PM
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that's different, that's mocking from afar. I was thinking more along the lines of getting verbally slapped till they snap out of it. I definitely do my part when I encounter it (which is not often, admittedly). Though I'm glad you linked that subreddit! Some amusing posts over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 11:43 PM
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I've been called a white knight pretty frequently myself. Calling every male feminist a white knight is as lazy as calling every RP male a rapist. It's just a tired way of shutting down the conversation. White knights are out there if you look for the signs. Some are incredibly hilarious: http://imgur.com/gallery/1I3x1
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 11:18 PM
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I was pointing out that OP's interpretation of why some people think the way they do is only his opinion, not the reality of the situation. because the guy tweeting about being single while "fuckboys" have side chicks is a mature and sensitive person. I'm totally imagining things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 07:52 PM
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Oh I see. I still think you are spouting hyperbole. I need to hear from a TRP guy if what you are saying is true. "Just pork em if they pout" does not sound like a well thought out strategy - as you explained it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 07:36 PM
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I answered your question and followed it up by asking in what context does TRP encourage "not taking no for an answer". And I know what consensual non-consent is, thanks. That's bullet point one. Bullet point two is a more gray-area, non-explicit version of consensual non-consent. Bullet point three is someone assuming that some body language means "be more assertive", which in turn means "hey let's do rape-play", which is way outside the scope of consensual non-consent and into plain old rape. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 07:28 PM
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They don't like to call it that, but definitionally, "not taking no for an answer when it comes to sex" is what the word rape means. I honestly am surprised by this. I won't claim I have an encyclopedic knowledge of TRP lore, but there are a few instances where "not taking no for an answer" is NOT rape: Consensual non-consent Within an established relationship where non-verbal and verbal communication are clear i.e it's their thing. When the other party is expressing non-verbally that they wish …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 05:40 PM
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Just for my own curiosity: was there some set of conditions under which I could be a man, point out that TRP advocates rape, and not be a white knight? yeah, it's called avoiding hyperbole.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 05:25 PM
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I am asking the BP side about white knights trying to draw attention to themselves. Seems there aren't many out there from the responses, though I can find a lot of examples like the one in the OP if I took a look around reddit, tumblr or twitter. That's the disconnect for me. Perhaps they are invisible, which is as it should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 04:56 PM
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doesn't agree with you agree with me on what? I'd like to see your elaboration on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 04:44 PM
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strange, usually see AWALT type comments from the more immature RP guys rather than "I am here to save you m'lady" type stuff. EDIT: ok, I see why you view it as RP. A crappy RP tweet would go something like this - "me: lifts, doesn't take shit from women and keeps SMV high, single. Pot bellied beta dude: has hot GF. Enjoy the AWALT beta bluepiller!"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 04:38 PM
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The sad thing is that they truly believe they are showing bravery or originality when the truth is that they just make everyone around them uncomfortable once they get on that white horse...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 04:36 PM
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I'm not taking it personally, I'm saying the question itself is condescending. You've given two options: Agree with me, or admit you're "giving them a pass". You either give them a pass i.e find them agreeable in some way (hard to fathom) or ignore them completely. You can't join the conversation without being defensive? Simple, don't. Your life will be much easier that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 04:24 PM
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but those are extreme cases that I never see in the wild. Just saw a guy over on /r/pics yesterday, calling Indian men rapists out of nowhere. When an Indian responded by pointing out that the percentage of rapes within the country are quite low relative to the population (without excusing rape or defending it) he was flooded by links, stats and news articles about how all Indian men are filthy beasts. It was pathetic. That would pretty much exemplify the typical white knight, going out of his w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 04:19 PM
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Follow-up question: what did you mean by "all these" white knights? Do you believe that Nice Guystm using token feminism in the hopes of getting laid are commonplace? Thankfully they only infest the internet. Haven't met a white knight irl yet, possibly because they never leave their basements.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 04:12 PM
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yikes! That is a better example...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 04:07 PM
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No, you gave an example of what you consider to be "white knight thinking", which is apparently either just agreeing with feminism, or agreeing with feminism and not getting laid. So you consider being a white knight as a positive? What is your example of white knight thinking? I'm not interested in answering your condescending question - it's either do I agree with you, or am I just "giving them a pass" because they're "on my side". You are projecting. I asked a question I'm curious about, was …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 04:05 PM
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By being a feminist, or agreeing with feminist views in a debate? Nah, I think not. I gave you a clear example of white knight thinking, you counter with dismissing it as long as he is "agreeing with feminist views in a debate". Interesting. The topic of debate these white knights delve into does not matter, the question remains: Do you see these white knights for what they are or do you give them a pass because they don't oppose your views ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 02:52 PM
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You are having a conversation with /u/VermiciousKnidzz and I'm commenting right there just to show you that a third party can feel compelled to join in on any conversation involving any kind of people. you response did not devolve into "I love /u/VermiciousKnidzz for the way he is not backing down. You go guy! xoxo" Actual responses with an opinion are fine. Overly enthusiastic replies like that rub me the wrong way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 02:49 PM
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Every time I've seen someone called a white knight they were always making actual arguments in defense of women. I don't much care for name calling. I can tell a white knight from a regular guy expressing his views by the content of his replies. I've honestly never seen what I would call a white knight in the wild. Curious about this one. Never? Even on reddit? Hard to believe unless you have a blind spot in this area.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 02:45 PM
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I believe in egalitarian relationships. The Red Pill believes in non-egalitarian relationships or doesn't believe in relationships at all, depending upon the individual RPer. "non-egalitarian relationships" are abuse. I'm pretty sure TRP guys care about consent. EDIT: Dude, you just accused all TRP men of being rapists, before playing yourself up as a guy who can attract chicks. Translation: Look at me! I am better than all those rapists and totally get "quality relationships" all day! You fit t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 02:42 PM
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So a "white knight" is any Nice Guytm who includes token feminism in his reasons why he deserves a girlfriend? Yes. Or any male who shows more than token feminism (a LOT more) yet ultimately reveals his true intentions. And if that's the case, do you believe that Nice Guystm like that one don't get mercilessly made fun of? I'm asking the question here! No answering questions with questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 02:37 PM
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And you're the one who decides if they're just trying to appease someone rather than they actually believe what they're saying? How does that work, then? by seeing their post history, finding them whining about how they are "good guys" who can't get laid. I'm not even BP, but I would respect someone who respects me far sooner than I'd respect someone who thinks I'm like a teenager who needs to be manipulated and dominated. So, no, I don't agree with you at all there. white knights are infantilis…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 02:33 PM
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This: I'm talking about the guy who "defends women" incessantly then posts this on his twitter feed: http://i.imgur.com/Gvm2K6V.png
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 02:26 PM
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I'm not Red Pill if that clears the confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 02:25 PM
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i think its very sad that RP can't imagine a legitimate reason to care about women's rights other than to get laid. still, it's very lazy of RP to let a few people discount the rest of the male feminist demographic. I'm not labeling you specifically (generalisation), think I made that clear. I am friends with a few male feminists. They don't feel compelled to join in on every conversation involving a woman and a TRP/MRA dude, simply because they have enough respect for both parties and their abi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 02:24 PM
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I don't. Red Pill or Blue Pill, these guys are pathetic. I am wondering why they don't get called on their bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 02:20 PM
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From a human standpoint these profiles at best are vapid, entitled and hypocritical. They're serious and they're the same women who would go out of their way to say something nasty if your profile had a list of requirements. You can get a feel for when a woman's profile is a "persona" or deadpan serious. Some of them are trying to project an air of confidence, others set up the profile with "insider" wording to attract a specific crowd (sugar daddys, "feeders" <- guys with a fetish for obesity),…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 02:18 PM
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I am with you, and I think most RP men are too, in saying "Why get pissed off ?" but there will always be some who just can't resist the urge to jump right in and flame away at the hypocrisy of the deal. I'll be honest, I partly started this discussion so that those TRP guys in the "anger phase" who get invested in the wrong things (online dating profiles) read replies like this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 02:01 PM
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So a dating site is clearly a reasonable place for you to be... she wasn't on a dating site, which explains the message.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 01:55 PM
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Haven't been on a dating site in years, but from what I remember it was usually the younger ones who had profiles like that - especially the ones with pics dressed a night out on their profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 01:45 PM
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what, preferences? Most women have them... EDIT: If you mean "don't message me if you aren't X", usually younger women in their early 20s who seem to react this way after being bombarded by messages. I don't take it seriously, if they message me I won't be upset about the content of their profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 01:36 PM
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seems like they do to some: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3gfh89/how_does_tbp_explain_the_awalts_of_tinder/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 12:57 PM
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I mean women are just the worst. When my man's not around I just sit around staring at the wall waiting to be porked. No self worth and switches to standby when not in use? I've always wanted a Fembot! I'll play it cool and not put you on a pedestal (except when your battery is low).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 08:17 PM
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All about intention for me. Oh yeah. I can maybe take a racial stereotype joke from someone not of my race if I knew her well enough to be certain that it's meant to tease or get a good laugh. Some random stranger cracking jokes about my heritage? Different story entirely...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 09:16 PM
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I think that if you rub shoulders with girls who can take it as well as they dish it out you will find it less objectionable. Here's a quick example, this female comedian explains why the universe exists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eqCaiwmr_M Explanation? It's white women in their 20s and early 30s, just being... just the ways of not having to take any responsibility for what happens to them and around them... it's just as if the universe is thinking about you. Nobody cares! That is an act…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 08:59 PM
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those are hilarious! I think it's how you react to them that counts. My reaction? "yep, been there, glad my teenage years are behind me!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 07:44 PM
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yeah... I will stick to my own standards of assault. Screaming "she assaulted me!" after a drink is thrown in your face is not exactly a display of Alpha assertiveness is it? EDIT: Then again, men in the west might just have been driven insane by all the laws that can land them in jail for saying the wrong thing to the wrong person...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 06:16 PM
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Gotta be honest, that doesn't look like assault to me. Public shaming, yes, the throwing of drinks in faces, absolutely but assault?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 06:05 PM
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She was engaged to a hypnotist? This is pure gold! lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 04:15 PM
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+/u/user_simulator /u/mashakos
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 12:09 PM
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The vast majority of men really, truly are attracted primarily to physical appearance. There's not a whole fuck of a lot to be done about facial aesthetics, breast size, or basic body type. I disagree. When you have experienced what it's like winning the affections of an immaculate specimen of a woman only to discover she is a dead fish in bed, your standards for what is truly attractive evolve into more than "she needs to be a 10".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 11:08 AM
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I think many men in power have preconceptions Men in power do not rely on preconceptions when making important decisions. The local McD's manager sure, but a CEO? That is why you will see "oddball" choices such as hiring an Asian immigrant for a top level job, choices are based on who the most sought after talent is attainable, not some silly ideas about men, women and periods.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 04:40 PM
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*chuckles while stroking his Masterly beard
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 07:22 PM
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I see where you are coming from, though personally I saw the context as her being annoyed that she is considered a "unicorn" (even if she did state her view in absolutes). She has her own frame of reference so you can understand why general principles can be bothersome. EDIT: This is why I don't give women advice on "nabbing a good man" or take advice from women on how to pick up girls. We each have a very narrow view where our own camp is concerned and end up talking about how we would like to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 06:19 PM
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I would start to feel like I was being treated as a fun diversion For some men, being the one woman in the world we can come home to, unwind and feel true relief, that is exactly what we need. It is by no means as inconsequential as a "fun diversion". We search long and hard for the type of women who understands that some days she just needs to be there for her man, to experience a magical moment, forgetting the rest of the world. We have just gone down different paths, your view is by no means …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 06:07 PM
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I am curious about your reaction. You know very well that her advice does not apply beyond her personal preferences, yet you have a very negative reaction to what she says. I don't find her advice/stance useful because I know myself and I pointed that out to her - without berating her for speaking her mind. You needed to employ amused mastery on this one :D EDIT- What I'm trying to say is: Captains don't live or die on the views of others, they take counsel with a grain of salt and trust their i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 05:52 PM
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You do realise that plate spinning is recommended mostly for 18-25 year olds, fair enough, 25 is around the age where you need to develop the ability to keep a relationship going strong in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 05:47 PM
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That is probably down to lack of experience, "fake it till you make it" type stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 04:58 PM
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I'd rather face the issue head on and sort it out that is my definition of harmony. Bottling things up for the sake of peace is merely the appearance of harmony.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 04:50 PM
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I have an objection to the idea that you must NEVER share your feelings with a woman because she will lose attraction. I value harmony above all else, bottling up your emotions (especially important for men) leading to resentment? That's a cardinal sin in my eyes. So yes, I agree with you on this point. TRP has a valid point in that a strong leader will always be more desirable but yeah, leaving small issues unresolved to fester and grow is not a sign of strong leadership.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 04:45 PM
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This would not work for me. That is the beauty of knowing yourself - I see very few incompatibilities in the BDSM world, if a man is getting to know a woman and she replies with "I'm not into that", it instantly clears the air and they remain amicable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 04:43 PM
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I once dated a guy who would answer any query on how he was feeling with "fine" even if it was obvious he wasn't fine. I then got told I was cold and unfeeling because I didn't tey help him feel better. It was very frustrating, I cannot read minds! Ah. See, there is a difference between a man who by nature does not feel a lot of emotional turmoil and a man who sulks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 04:37 PM
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men who do not break down after a long day are not boring, lol In the sexual/relationship roles I prefer it is highly exciting and even a requirement to a certain extent (hardcore strict protocol M/s dynamic)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 04:32 PM
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she also hasn't specified her preferences - she could be a pansexual into gender queer androgynous archetypes. That is not applicable on a wider scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 04:28 PM
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If I find myself dating a man that won't be open with me about how he feels, I will nope out of there so fast his head will spin. Vulnerability is very different between men and women. When I am being hard on a partner in order to push her past a rut she is stuck in, I am being vulnerable. I risk hurting her feelings, I risk her not understanding my intentions, I hurt seeing her struggle, yet I soldier on knowing that the pay off is ultimately that she will be stronger in the end. I am also bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 04:23 PM
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And plate spinning specifically says walk if she gives you too much drama? it's not brought up as the first option but it is stressed to a certain degree. Going "nuclear" and all that. I went into a mind set around the age of 29 where I focused on ways to remain fulfilled while telling myself "leaving is not an option". Once you are in this mindset it is surprising how many strategies are out there other than caving in and feeling miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 04:14 PM
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how the fuck did you get "blue pill skills" from plate spinning to create abundance mentality and signal options? Are you suggesting you'd tell 21 year olds to just go straight to Married Man's Sex Life Primer? Because that's the alternative. when your only recourse in times of conflict is an exit strategy, you will be stuck, left without ammunition once you get into a permanent relationship. Think about the consequences of leaving a marriage, or even trying to break off with someone who shares …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 04:08 PM
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So you agree with Redpill principles existing, you just wonder if women expect men to "just get it"? shhh! ;) There are aspects of TRP that I find counter-productive. The whole "spinning plates" thing, being a chameleon without a strong core self, changing your shape to nab the next plate, then dumping her when you can't deal. If all you're looking for is casual sex then yes, you will achieve your goal. There is a downside to this which is not discussed in TRP circles: the time you spend "spinni…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 03:59 PM
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this might be a cultural thing but in my part of the world helping yourself to seconds without serving your guest first would be taken as an invitation to leave the house and never visit again but in a very negative way. It would be showing contempt while simultaneously disrespecting the guest. Might want to err on the side of caution if you have foreigners / exchange students over next time ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 03:29 AM
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I should clarify then that what I was asking was the opposite of creating fake situations or drama. What proactive steps do you take to gauge your partner as opposed to reactive (e.g. conversations/observing how they interact with service industry employees etc.)?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 03:22 AM
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You can learn a lot by watching and listening. A very important method of assessing a potential long term partner's integrity. I myself focus the most on self-awareness and a sense of accountability. Those two qualities trump almost everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 01:55 AM
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That's a strange point of view for me. As /u/fruitenvrac has stated here: For me, the whole "getting to know you" period is a kind of 'test' ... This happens with everyone I meet, not just potential romantic interests, it happens with female friends too. I'm curious about people I meet, I enjoy getting to know new people and am generally full of questions, love conversing etc. Most people are interested in knowing more about the character and integrity of those they are getting to know, even a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 01:48 AM
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See, I try to avoid direct questions like your example Yep. The example wasn't the best but it got a great answer from you (in reality I would have talked about anecdotes (something that I read recently, a hypothetical etc.) where men/women made certain decisions or acted a certain way, get her talking about the subject, see what she thinks). and yes it makes prefect sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 09:29 PM
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it's broader, it's just figuring someone out, their character, how they handle themselves in response to certain situations, emotions etc. this is what the thread is for. "feeling them out" is disqualified ;) it's too broad an answer, I was looking for examples based on what you have learned about relationships. EDIT: as an example one of the first things I try to figure out in someone I am going on a second date with: "does she lean towards an assertive dominant personality in relationships wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 08:21 PM
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To be honest, I don’t completely understand what he says about women who "know" too much. By referring to a woman knowing too much, he is speaking of a woman losing her optimism and idealism in the face of all that she has seen in the world. In other words, jaded and passionless. It goes both ways. You need a bit of idealism and romance from both partners for a relationship to work. Even if you know some promises cannot be realistically kept indefinitely (e.g. "I will always be there for you"), …
/r/RedPillWomen16/06/15 12:31 AM
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can you provide a source? Interested in reading/hearing more about this case.
/r/RedPillWomen23/04/15 09:52 PM
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Instead of being playful, why not explore your darker sides? Talk to each other about fantasies you've had that you wouldn't share with others, discuss the feasibility of re-enacting them irl. A chase in the woods, a kidnapping, rough play in the bedroom, or even more esoteric themes - sci fi or victorian era romance. A great example of that is the scene from gone with the wind. Intense experiences bring you closer, make you feel safe, show how much trust you have in your partner.
/r/RedPillWomen26/03/15 05:24 PM
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Before the sexual revolution, if you didn't secure a stable job that can support the income of a household by 25 you were a "loser" and stayed a virgin. Times have changed but men have always faced challenges they had to live up to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 08:44 PM
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This athlete may not do it consciously just as a natural alpha does not consciously act alpha but it doesn't change the nature of the behavior. I see. Never really analysed it to where I see men's idiosyncrasies as peacocking but hey, if it gets noticed who am I to complain eh?
/r/TheRedPill12/03/15 08:38 PM
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Your statement is false because your evaluation of peacocking is off. My understanding of peacocking stems from Mystery's PUA techniques that I've read about, where you dress up in a way you don't personally like or learn superfluous skills like "magic" in order to score. If it's wider than that, then I will accept that my understanding of peacocking is limited. In any case I was only referring to the approach of dazzling through flashy attire/material goods one personally doesn't care about: bl…
/r/TheRedPill12/03/15 08:23 PM
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Don't confuse first impressions with the true SMV once reality sinks in. I started a fling with a girl from work a few years back. She got interested in me after she overheard me shouting at a team member over the phone (who was lagging behind on a project I was heading). I didn't "ask" her about it after we hooked up but I noticed the way she was looking at me and following my conversation with my co-worker at the time. That is one example of first impressions not based on peacocking "tricks", …
/r/TheRedPill11/03/15 08:44 PM
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It's...just that you dont have any experience with WTF you're talking about, Rule of thumb: Never assume. Learn the skills needed to assess the people and situations you deal with. Women have got that down way before you ever came around to it, so you better step up your game and fast. Making proclamations with nothing to back your words is the quickest way to attaining "beta" status. In this case, assuming that I lack in knowledge or life experience when you have no idea who you are talking to.…
/r/TheRedPill11/03/15 08:14 PM
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High status college professors are seen as moreso when wearing casual attire--they're alpha enough to do so. However college students wearing casual attire don't receive the same benefit, they are rated as more proficient and popular when wearing a suit. That is accurate - if you have no status or "SMV" (broke college kid or just starting out in your career) you need to stand out somehow. I'm saying that you shouldn't depend on flashy trappings to show your status, it helps out in the short term…
/r/TheRedPill11/03/15 07:53 PM
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Remeber the 38th law - think as you wish but behave as others do. That's a strangely beta approach. It should rather be: Convincing others of your thoughts should be proportional to your investment in them. A fuck buddy? Who cares if she thinks your privileged? Enjoy her and move on when it has run it's course. Someone you are interested in forming a relationship with however is a different matter. She should respect your views, you need to make sure of that in a LTR scenario.
/r/TheRedPill11/03/15 07:33 PM
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Exactly. Took me a long time to discover that on my own, I honestly think I would have been helped by TRP if it was around in my late teens / early twenties.
/r/TheRedPill11/03/15 07:26 PM
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getthefuckouttaherewiththatbullshit. Please. You only bow your head to RP alphas, is it? *laughs* I like the "please" at the end. You're a very well mannered boy.
/r/TheRedPill11/03/15 07:24 PM
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Kinky does not equal submissive. :P *grins* Indeed, MissPearl
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 08:46 PM
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I just connected with it based on that and the fact that the tenets of TRP that I agree with are the things I've heard elsewhere first. Yep, I didn't need TRP to figure out that being naturally Dominant or submissive Is Not A Bad Thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 04:56 PM
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Thanks for replying. Do you consider yourself blue pill because you find TRP so reductionist? I have a friend who by any metric would be considered an Alpha male (army engineer, ripped, confident, assertive) yet is a 50/50 Switch. I find TRP a tad simplistic, though I appreciate the effort involved in its adherents taking a stab at finding themselves in the face of societal pressure to conform (I am sure you know how hard that can be, considering both your and my leanings). As such I can't reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 04:29 PM
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I'm a kinky nympho With or without the D/s aspect? If that is private info I'll understand, wanted to point out that having D or s leanings would make your interactions with your partner more red pill than blue pill. I am dominant but that is by nature, I don't subscribe to the TRP assertion that a woman has to take on a role she does not fit in order to please a man - I just connect with naturally submissive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 03:59 PM
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Look it up. the dictionary is the authority I see. The dictionary is the "authority", on every word defined within in it. To gain a deep understanding of philosophy, all you need is to look up the word in the dictionary. I am sure you don't actually think that, it's just strange that you countered my assertion so illogically.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 03:26 PM
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edison's lab met with the opposition of not knowing what material would make a good light bulb filament. their opposition was the unknown, is the unknown an aggressor? does overcoming the unknown make you an aggressor? You picked a bad example there. Edison was one of the most aggressive inventors/businessmen who was a part of the scientific community. Killing an elephant by electrocuting it with AC current in order to discredit Tesla is just one of the many, many examples of his aggressive atti…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 03:14 PM
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A dictionary gives you the definition(s) of a word, I am sure you will agree that it will not make you an authority on the field that word is a representation of. The definition of the word "aggression" in the Oxford dictionary does not go against the explanation I gave you. Look up the definition as a synonym for "forcefulness" or "assertiveness". You can use that as a reference point to ask questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 03:03 PM
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can you link to the usage of the term you are basing your views on? hmm. Not sure how to respond to that. I haven't looked at a survey finding or read a paper in order to form my understanding of aggression. It's just a part of me that I have developed and honed over the years. I can give you examples, or can show you how I would use aggression to handle situations, but I can't give you a full, accurate picture in a one sentence answer. The answer to "what is attraction?" can be given in a sente…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 02:34 PM
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really? i'm pretty sure it was agriculture. you should read more. Agriculture: the transition from a roaming, rootless herd to a group that stakes it's claim on a territory of land, killing off predatory species to the point that the most feared and dangerous carnivorous mammals and reptiles on planet earth have adapted to avoid humans as the apex predator when they were relegated to mega fauna prior? That what you are referring to? Yeah, that didn't take any aggression at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/15 07:09 PM
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there's also a book written by jared diamond on civilization collapse that theorizes resource exhaustion is what causes collapse. Someone who reads! Excellent. You will find that the depletion of resources in even the most aggressive of civilisations, slavery in the case of the Roman Empire, leads to the capacity for them to be aggressive being severely diminished. Of course there are a few notable civilisations that have collapsed internally due to depletion of resources without outside forces …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/15 04:56 PM
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i obviously don't agree and i don't know how we can move beyond that huge difference of opinion. That's fine. I don't intend to change your views, just present mine. You might want to look into Social cycle theory, a hypothesis that puts forward the notion that all civilisations have a life cycle. You will find it interesting that every civilisation's decline - when citizens are afforded the most rights and military expansion has ceased - ends with an invasion by aggressive "barbarian" cultures.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/15 04:11 PM
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how is passive non compliance aggression? Any act, whether provoked or unprovoked, that aims to put another into an unpleasant situation or state is an act of aggression. Ghandi may not have killed or maimed Imperial British citizens but he sure as hell put them in an uncomfortable position. He called them on their own morals and challenged them on their contention that they were civilised, benevolent masters of their empire's subjects. Make no mistake, Ghandi was waging a war of resistence, not…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/15 03:43 PM
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the former is not aggression, it is a reaction to aggression. Aggression is a trait, not an act. Whether on the offensive or the defensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/15 01:17 PM
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can you show me any research that aggression is a positive trait? Read up some "research" on Ghandi or Martin Luther King Jr. Aggression is not the caricature I imagine you think it is - big dumb guys beating each other with sticks. It is the ability to stand up to an aggressor and force their hand into capitulating through the force of your will. Whether physical violence is used or not, that does not define aggressive behaviour. EDIT: To answer your question. Your very existence in the civilis…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/15 01:13 PM
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Do you like panhandlers demanding money from you? If it happened to you over and over again in the course of your ordinary daily life, would you say to yourself, "oh, it's cool, they're being social, humans are social, we're just chatting, this is cool"? I'd say "we are in a really bad period financially as a society" and not be a GIANT asshole, shit all over others, act pissy and annoyed at their misery and shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/15 12:51 PM
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