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| – | The conversation has been hijacked by undesirable men, the REAL issue is that actual DESIRABLE men are being viewed as beneath average-below average womenTo add to that I’m not fat either and take care of myself best I can but certain things about me are unchangeable and ugly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/24 10:20 PM |
| – | The conversation has been hijacked by undesirable men, the REAL issue is that actual DESIRABLE men are being viewed as beneath average-below average womenI’m ugly and I know that but the vast majority of men going down that red pill path while perhaps not handsome, aren’t men who would stand out in a crowd either because I know these guys Irl. They fall into the NPC territory lookswise which is where the frustration of “average” men not being able to get women comes from | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/24 10:19 PM |
| – | The conversation has been hijacked by undesirable men, the REAL issue is that actual DESIRABLE men are being viewed as beneath average-below average womenI’ve gotten those compliments for years it means nothing in terms of dating prospects, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/24 08:41 PM |
| – | The conversation has been hijacked by undesirable men, the REAL issue is that actual DESIRABLE men are being viewed as beneath average-below average womenA lot of men who went down the redpill path did the things women asked for and it didn’t work such as being kind, empathetic , emotionally available, a good conversationalist, etc. I can tell you as a male I get complimented a lot randomly by women for those traits but have never been able to date. I think the best way to describe it is those traits are what women wish their current boyfriends have as it would be icing on the cake. But nobody will eat plain icing without any cake or barbecue sau… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/24 08:37 PM |
| 1 | Is there a female equivalent of "betabuxx"?And what if “he” has never had a girlfriend previously? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/24 02:30 PM |
| 2 | Would you date a woman that slept with your friend before you were exclusive?Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/24 01:07 AM |
| 3 | Would you date a woman that slept with your friend before you were exclusive?Actually it’s horseshoe theory at work. Virgin men and the promiscuous men will care the most on this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/24 01:06 AM |
| – | Is there a female equivalent of "betabuxx"?I’ve never had a relationship but you specifically mentioned getting bored of a woman, which I pushed back on, as I myself have been around woman a lot via friendships, and never got “bored” of their friendship. No it isn’t the same as a relationship, but at the same time you implied being bored of a particular person and wanting someone else so past friendships can be used here as those are personality focused, I’ve been offered casual sex Irl and sometimes aggressively (closer to sexual harass… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 04:30 AM |
| 5 | Is there a female equivalent of "betabuxx"?You’re shifting the goalposts here. You initially said “you’d be surprised what women do to avoid loneliness” implying that single women and obese women had 0 options. When I push back you say that some men marry uglier women to use them which is an entirely different and much weaker claim. Of course “some men” do that but to do that you have to be seen by the girl as well out of her normal league of men that she could get commitment from. Which brings me back to the original point that only Cha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 04:23 AM |
| – | Is there a female equivalent of "betabuxx"?I’m one of them lol. I’ve turned down casual sex Irl as I have no interest in it. Ive got multiple DMs from women on here who were interested in sleeping with me due to having a virgin fetish which I ignored / ghosted. I want an LTR only which I have not been able to get my entire life. I don’t get “bored” of women, I’ve had many female friends in the past who were interesting to talk to who I spoke for years at a time. We stopped talking as heavily either when they started dating someone (I don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 03:49 AM |
| 9 | Is there a female equivalent of "betabuxx"?Eh, single mothers and obese women don’t do that bad where I live, contrary to what the redpill says. Single moms usually can’t get Chad but they can move down a tier in two or looks and get long term commitment. Same with obese women as they usually just pair off with obese men or overweight men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 03:35 AM |
| 1 | Do women have a wall for men but they are too embarrassed to admit it?Muscle mass and fertility are hardly relevant unless we’re talking about a 20 year age gap relationship or something | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 02:12 AM |
| 1 | Do women have a wall for men but they are too embarrassed to admit it?But wouldn’t the young woman also be immature? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 02:11 AM |
| 0 | It's rare for a man to be with a woman who likes him for who he is as a human being instead of what he can provide.Statistically speaking what you read about on relationship advice is rare. 16% of women are breadwinners and most skew towards the lower income categories and this is especially true for women who are paying everything. Back in the college educated world (which this particular forum skews heavily toward) you commonly see salary discrepancies or SAHM with some egalitarian monetary arrangements thrown in (although the men usually outpace the woman at some point and she sees the ambition or potenti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 02:08 AM |
| 1 | It's rare for a man to be with a woman who likes him for who he is as a human being instead of what he can provide.I think OP made the mistake of taking his post down a monetary route, when in fact sex or sexual appeal which can be caused through a combination of looks and player type personality is something women also take or want from a man. I disagree with your point regarding man. There’s a couple very common sayings among men such as “I’d rather take a nice 7 than a high maintenance 10” or “For every attractive women out there there’s a guy tired of having sex with her (implying that attractive women a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 02:04 AM |
| 0 | It's rare for a man to be with a woman who likes him for who he is as a human being instead of what he can provide.It seems like you are addressing a later stage in the relationship. OP’s examples revolve dating while yours references marital issues | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 01:57 AM |
| 3 | Do you think the Men's First Love Theory is true? If so, shouldn't more women want inexperienced men?It isn’t , and this is what “alpha widow” derives from | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 01:48 AM |
| 2 | Marraige is a net loss move for men.Not really , as he still wants sex. He’s one more man who will pump and dump women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 01:46 AM |
| 2 | Marraige is a net loss move for men.I hope you realize Sex isn’t the only physical act that exists or avenue to show affection. Hugs, kisses, cuddling, etc… The list goes on really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 01:44 AM |
| 2 | Is there a female equivalent of "betabuxx"?OP specifically references men who couldn’t get an attractive women. I have a hard time believing your average Joe could find a woman who agrees to a “forever girlfriend” arrangement. This seems more like a Chad who is looking for a main girl while having girls on the side | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 01:36 AM |
| 1 | Is there a female equivalent of "betabuxx"?I mean I suppose it’s a roll of the dice really whether the man you truly like in the future actually cares about stuff like N count or not. I know the high demand men do care about this stuff at least directionally, while the simps are desperate enough to wave away any red flags. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 01:32 AM |
| 1 | Is there a female equivalent of "betabuxx"?The “agenda” is a grift to sell as much of their dating advice as possible. If they mentioned that trad men used to put a ring on a girl before having sex with her, they’d lose a lot of their clients. Thus the product or advice they sell had to be as appealing to men as possible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 01:29 AM |
| 2 | Is there a female equivalent of "betabuxx"?I mean a lot of what the RP says has been true among the women I’ve been around. But what the RP gets wrong is it basically sweeps under the rug any notion of guilt when men act the exact same way. If a woman uses a guy for money he’s a betabuxxer and she’s a gold digger, but there’s nothing wrong with a guy pumping and dumping a woman or stringing her along without refusing to marry her | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 01:27 AM |
| 2 | Is there a female equivalent of "betabuxx"?How exactly do you tell if you are a man’s dream girl or he settled for you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 01:19 AM |
| 8 | Is there a female equivalent of "betabuxx"?That’s the same with beta buxxers though. They can break off the relationship and find another women, Emotional investment tends to be a real thing where breakups become much harder past a certain point. Kids makes things much more complicated hence why “baby trapping” is a thing in both genders | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 01:19 AM |
| – | Is there a female equivalent of "betabuxx"?Virgin men who reject casual sex and are interested in the long haul do exist. Problem is they are often ignored if they aren’t the best looking or don’t know how to turn on a woman the best, since they’ve never had any intimacy with a woman before. It can be very difficult for these guys to get out of the “friendzone” with women as they don’t know how to make things sexual, since they’ve never engaged in sex themselves | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 01:17 AM |
| 1 | Why do many women say age gap relationships have a "power imbalance" yet say nothing about wealth gap relationships?I ended up in a similar situation getting admittance to a school with rich kids due to merit. You never blend in. They golf, yacht, and boat on the weekend, hang out at each other’s houses have fancy parties and go to fancy restaurants. You may have lived there but you weren’t one among them to consider dating you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/24 03:05 AM |
| – | Do virgin women still have "value" or is it something "from the past"?“Cleverness and negotiating capacities” for higher N women tends to be trying to perceive or act like they are prude or modest by dressing very conservatively and making that a point or trying to fake being demure. For virgins it’s simply being very cautious to withhold physical intimacy. I don’t think those women are blameless because they made the mistake of giving in and having sex with such men who they knew were problematic. If you follow purity culture precisely you don’t have sexual intim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 10:21 PM |
| 1 | Dating advice, therapy bait-and-switchThis is not relevant for men. Men have to initiate and plan | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 09:40 PM |
| 5 | (Re-upload) What do y'all think of this excerpt about radicalisation in the manosphere?“Thin” and 18-25 are the bare minimum. Most women only want to date men in their age range (so 18-27) which is the demographic here and think Jason Momoa is fat so they clearly care about weight as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 09:31 PM |
| – | Would you care if your gf hung out with guys she’s slept with in the past?This is false. Women gain interest in a man when they know other close friends have dated or slept with him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 07:35 PM |
| 1 | Do virgin women still have "value" or is it something "from the past"?Well when you start with 0 options, further narrowing it down to 0 doesn’t really change much. As an aside virgin men can easily have sex if they want to, because many women get a kick out of taking a man’s virginity. I’ve gotten DMs on this site from women like that who I ignored. My interest is in a real long term relationship, not sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 07:32 PM |
| 8 | Why do women on this sub often say that they are not attracted to promiscuous men?Your point isn’t relevant to the discussion here about whether a lot of women engage in sex with promiscuous men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 07:22 PM |
| 1 | Why do women on this sub often say that they are not attracted to promiscuous men?No sexual intimacy at all? What about making out? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 06:54 PM |
| 1 | Why do many women say age gap relationships have a "power imbalance" yet say nothing about wealth gap relationships?That’s not the reason why it just ends up happening honestly. School, college, work , white collar neighborhood, etc all kind of filter for these things already | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 06:38 PM |
| 1 | Why do many women say age gap relationships have a "power imbalance" yet say nothing about wealth gap relationships?Most older men are married though and many single ones prefer their own age bracket | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 06:37 PM |
| – | Do virgin women still have "value" or is it something "from the past"?This sounds like another variation of “Not everyone is a monolith”. It’s not a useful response. OP is interested in what the average high value man prefers | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 06:34 PM |
| 5 | Do virgin women still have "value" or is it something "from the past"?Eh a lot of non-virgin men care also. Whether that preference is justified is another question | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 06:33 PM |
| 2 | Do virgin women still have "value" or is it something "from the past"?My personal opinion is men’s over use of stuff like pornography has rotted their brain’s to an extent and made them more sexually permissive than they used to be. I don’t think it’s just women convincing men to settle for less | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 06:33 PM |
| 2 | Do virgin women still have "value" or is it something "from the past"?I share his view and I’m N=0 and would not date someone with past sexual experience I have no interest in competing with past partners. It’s emasculating from a male perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 06:30 PM |
| 2 | Do virgin women still have "value" or is it something "from the past"?Not really. People have long memories. Nobody says the past out loud, but people Don’t forget about their exs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 06:26 PM |
| 2 | Do virgin women still have "value" or is it something "from the past"?To put it bluntly, that virgin women went after the wrong man and probably went after a player (tale as old as time). Your anecdotes aren’t particularly helpful, because just because someone is valuable doesn’t mean they get that value unless they know what price to charge. Let’s say for example I have a diamond ring worth $5000 and a another guy has a fake worth $50. We both go to a dealer. Dealer to me: “Ill give you $1000 for the diamond”. Me hearing that and being desperate for money takes t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 06:21 PM |
| 13 | Why do women on this sub often say that they are not attracted to promiscuous men?It matters because those guys got sex for free | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 05:52 PM |
| 3 | Why do women on this sub often say that they are not attracted to promiscuous men?Well a lot of us have Chad friends who have stories upon stories of taking away the virginity of even the sexually chaste. I think even among the adult virgins many do go for promiscuous men or lose their virginity to promiscuous men if given the chance. I want what I’m saying to be false as a virgin man but I haven’t really seen otherwise in the wild yet | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 05:48 PM |
| 3 | Why do women on this sub often say that they are not attracted to promiscuous men?Female virgins are a small percent of the adult population. Even less if you include all sexual intimacy not just penetrative sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 04:46 PM |
| 1 | Why do women on this sub often say that they are not attracted to promiscuous men?Well in the case of age gaps we actually have data that it is relatively rare. The average age gap is 2yrs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 04:37 PM |
| 13 | Why do women on this sub often say that they are not attracted to promiscuous men?3/4 of female college students have hooked up at least once. Routine casual sex is rare, but occasional hookups aren’t | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 04:33 PM |
| 1 | Does the Destiny situation prove that redpill is right?The pills deal with sexual attraction, not dating and those can be two different things especially as the age of the people involved increased Red/black is about who the women are having casual sex with or willing to live without introducing a power play to compensate for the deficit in desirable traits | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/24 04:56 AM |
| 1 | Does the Destiny situation prove that redpill is right?What if you aren’t a fully desirable man who can obtain a closed relationship ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/24 04:52 AM |
| 2 | What do you being to the tableInitial Sexual attraction brings out raw love, nothing else can bring it out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/24 04:47 AM |
| 6 | Attractive women want it all: Good genetics, economic investment, parenting proclivities and emotional commitment.I mean, considering that most women go after the top 10% of men, makes it clear they think they are all very pretty And yes, I have seen that too Irl. If women truly though they were average they wouldn’t be going after 6ft handsome dudes with charisma and good social skills | /r/BlackPillScience | 12/01/24 07:23 PM |
| 9 | Attractive women want it all: Good genetics, economic investment, parenting proclivities and emotional commitment.No I’m saving that even fat girls or ugly girls seem themselves as 10/10 and its the norm irl The surgeries you mentioned are because women are fighting for the top % of men. Doesn’t mean they don’t think they are a 10, but the competition is steep | /r/BlackPillScience | 12/01/24 03:54 PM |
| 8 | Attractive women want it all: Good genetics, economic investment, parenting proclivities and emotional commitment.No I’ve seen the same thing Irl. | /r/BlackPillScience | 12/01/24 02:52 PM |
| – | Contrary to popular belief, I think meek, beta guy and dominant woman can create successful marriagesIt’s not incel logic that those of higher value have heavier interest and go off the market faster. Think about it: if a guy is extremely desirable and wants to date how long do you think he lasts before he finds a gf he like? I know a guy that spent a single day on the dating apps and found a girlfriend who he will be with for years now (and even is hoping to get engaged too). That’s how fast those guys go | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/24 02:17 PM |
| 1 | Debate : People dont understand that Money and status makes you GENUINELY more sexually attractive as a Man.I have heard it’s primarily lower income couples | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/24 04:45 AM |
| 1 | Debate : People dont understand that Money and status makes you GENUINELY more sexually attractive as a Man.Well somehow whenever I see really tall dudes they have really short wives | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/24 04:43 AM |
| 1 | Women who complain about dating, is it incorrect to say they are at fault?We are talking about OP | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/24 11:57 PM |
| 1 | Debating women's preferences won't lead to women changing themI mean yeah for men a relationship is better than no relationship. Having said that, they would pick and uglier thin girl if they had the option to | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/24 11:56 PM |
| 1 | Debating women's preferences won't lead to women changing themThis is because men are struggling to get dates and taking what they can get. 63% of men under 30 are single as opposed to 34% of women. Also women have a higher obesity rate than men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/24 11:04 PM |
| 1 | Women who complain about dating, is it incorrect to say they are at fault?That impacts the number of matches she gets, but once she’s at the date stage it’s not relevant | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/24 08:27 PM |
| 1 | Women who complain about dating, is it incorrect to say they are at fault?Based on dating app research it’s about top 5% of men. So on paper that’s rare but if you’re in a large city with 50,000 single men, that’s 2500 Giga Chads. Dating apps makes finding a lot of these men efficient | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/24 08:02 PM |
| 1 | Why attempt to change your partner’s lifestyle rather than just finding someone who matches yours?This is definitely false. You just look for what you want when you go out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/24 07:58 PM |
| 1 | Debating women's preferences won't lead to women changing themNo men care about body / BMI more. That’s why we repeat to lose weight. A girl with a meh face but fit is 100X more attractive than a fat girl with a pretty face | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/24 07:55 PM |
| 1 | Contrary to popular belief, I think meek, beta guy and dominant woman can create successful marriagesBecause they are filtering for guys who are tall, handsome, charming, and confident with a good career. Most of the guys who fit this can find a girl early such as in college and do. If a guy has the above attributes at 25 and is single there’s usually a catch to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/24 07:43 PM |
| 1 | Contrary to popular belief, I think meek, beta guy and dominant woman can create successful marriagesThis all comes down to the role of sexual intimacy and pair - bond mating. Once someone has physically had sex with a certain type of guy it becomes a drug and there’s no going back | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/24 07:35 PM |
| 52 | Attractive women want it all: Good genetics, economic investment, parenting proclivities and emotional commitment.In the modern era, every woman believes she’s attractive | /r/BlackPillScience | 08/01/24 02:37 PM |
| 1 | She's traditional with a twist. The twist? She's not traditional.Most bikers are more traditional and conservative. At least in the US. You guys are focusing only on upper class stereotypes of traditional, not how the working class traditional people are | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 10/12/23 06:51 PM |
| – | Most women don't even like men like that. Stop wasting your time.I can tell you your last sentence is just wrong. I’ve been complimented on my physique a few times publicly and am 100% natural. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/23 04:18 AM |
| – | Most women don't even like men like that. Stop wasting your time.This is completely false. Plenty of women are into the tall and husky look. I know Reddit is more of an alt crowd so they are more into the Oussama Guessom type look rather than a classic masculine look (such as Jason Momoa), but irl it definitely swings the other direction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/23 04:14 AM |
| – | Most women don't even like men like that. Stop wasting your time.Wait a second you are saying it’s normal for arms to be 15-16 inches circumference? That isn’t natural at all | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/23 04:09 AM |
| – | Most women don't even like men like that. Stop wasting your time.An average Chad lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/23 04:06 AM |
| – | Most women don't even like men like that. Stop wasting your time.100% | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/23 04:05 AM |
| – | Most women don't even like men like that. Stop wasting your time.Yeah, those guys are usually known as volcel / low-N Chads. Dudes who have the optionality to play the field and be promiscuous or could cheat but specifically settled with one girl in his prime. Those guys are usually locked into LTRs so the odds a random date with a guy who has the appearance / optionality of a player will actually end up with these volcel Chads is extremely low. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 08:49 PM |
| – | Most women don't even like men like that. Stop wasting your time.No they are hot and tall (6ft+) with a decent face and very sociable. Unattractive men don’t do very well. Many are incels. Even the sociable ones | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 08:44 PM |
| – | Most women don't even like men like that. Stop wasting your time.I know many guys drowning in women , you don’t need to be an influencer to do so. They are hot and sociable but that’s about it. Influencers don’t even live in most areas of the country. Who do you think are the successful men there? Not everyone lives in LA | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 08:40 PM |
| – | Most women don't even like men like that. Stop wasting your time.Players can have “main girls” but they pump and dump the “side pieces”. And this is the terminology they use. I had a few friends who transformed into full on players. I eventually parted ways with them because I didn’t agree with the ethics of it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 08:39 PM |
| – | Most women don't even like men like that. Stop wasting your time.Then you are doing something very wrong. Plenty of guys with even 80% of your looks are drowning in women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 08:14 PM |
| – | Most women don't even like men like that. Stop wasting your time.Lol cope. They are having sex but with handsome dudes. You just don’t know any of those guys which is why you talk like this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 08:08 PM |
| – | Most women don't even like men like that. Stop wasting your time.He’s always the ex… What’s the height of your current husband ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 08:07 PM |
| – | Most women don't even like men like that. Stop wasting your time.Bad boy refers to a player who pumps and dumps girls though. There’s often a tradeoff at play | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 08:06 PM |
| 0 | Why do some men demand obedience over collaboration in a marriage?I mean a lot of couples don’t have the exact same vision or compatibility. You’re married to a human, not a robot you built. People often marry those who they feel are similar enough in certain areas that the relationship will work. But they can be very different in other areas. I also think the saying “choose your battles wisely” is fit here. Is a discussion and debate really worth it for what color the walls will be or what type of furniture is in the house? Or how much game time a kid should … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 02:55 AM |
| -1 | Why do some men demand obedience over collaboration in a marriage?In practice, usually the men and women have full authority on certain aspects of the family. I’m familiar with a lot of trad relationships and this is how it goes. The husband for example may set the budget, but give the wife full freedom to buy whatever she wants for the furniture or groceries, etc; while the husband has the final say on repairs. For kids the wife might have full authority over the kids education; while the husband has full authority over their extracurricular and game usage. A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 02:05 AM |
| -9 | Why do some men demand obedience over collaboration in a marriage?AF/BB and “she’s not yours it’s just your turn” are both objectively true and I’ve seen it far more times than I can count. Although in many cases AF/BB stops at AF because single mother can’t get married. These aren’t just manosphere talking points. If you haven’t seen these things a lot irl, I do wonder what sort of bubble you are in. Perhaps an upper class bubble I suppose | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 02:01 AM |
| -1 | The problem with “Women would rather obey their boss than their husband”No I’m saying the benefits conditional on being together are equivalent to that of a workplace arrangement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 12:03 AM |
| -2 | The problem with “Women would rather obey their boss than their husband”If you walk away from a job you lose your insurance immediately. In the US at least | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 11:58 PM |
| 10 | Why do some women object to the stat that women find 80% unattractive, if they also say there aren't enough quality men?Those types share certain characteristics that lock out a lot of men. Height is a good example as is face structure | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 11:50 PM |
| 0 | Is dating just depressing in the 30s or what?It’s not overblown based on neighborhood | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 05:01 AM |
| 2 | What icks/turn offs do you have for womenAre you a 10/10 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 02:31 AM |
| 2 | What icks/turn offs do you have for womenEven a few tattoos? Seems pretty harsh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 02:17 AM |
| 1 | What icks/turn offs do you have for womenOk and you aren’t a 10/10 are you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 01:56 AM |
| 1 | What icks/turn off do you have for men?Anybody else failing a majority of these? I don’t think one single user would like me based on character traits lol. And we haven’t even gotten into looks yet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 01:15 AM |
| 0 | People with a type usually have a personality type and not a look typeYes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 07:52 PM |
| – | Why do men make fun of things women like?You can find a meme or a podcast on anything if you look for it. We’re talking about the average, everyday person | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 06:22 PM |
| 2 | Almost half of the women having a plan B and the 80/20 rule are the legit reasons for a guy to have self-esteem issues and women shouldn't complain about it as they are the reason behind it.Women only swiped on 4.5% | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 06:15 PM |
| 6 | Almost half of the women having a plan B and the 80/20 rule are the legit reasons for a guy to have self-esteem issues and women shouldn't complain about it as they are the reason behind it.Nothing else really matters for genuine desire. You’re just trading places with other men in the line to be a betabuxxer | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 06:14 PM |
| 1 | People with a type usually have a personality type and not a look typeI hope this is sarcastic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 04:16 PM |
| 2 | What icks/turn offs do you have for womenHow about actually giving them a. Chance ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 02:49 PM |
| – | Why do men make fun of things women like?Even attractive men become desperate when it’s attractive women on the other side. The fact you knew them before for some time is pretty important here, OP is referring to how guys behave on the first few dates with strangers which is much different. I’ve definitely engaged in playful banter with people I’ve known for a long time but that familiarity allows for jokes like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 02:35 PM |
| 5 | What icks/turn offs do you have for womenIs it just me or does it feel like there aren’t any women even left to date when you apply the standards in the comments? We all have flaws and I think what is messed up with modern dating is just having “icks” for the most trivial of things and not giving people a chance to prove themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 02:33 PM |
| – | Why do men make fun of things women like?It doesn’t apply to men because men are desperate. And since you imply those girls were hot this sort of only reinforces my point. A guy will usually sleep with any women interested in him. It’s never “playful banter” unless you’ve known the person for a very long time and know how to make the joke and make jokes that don’t offend the other person but might get them slightly annoyed. Again that comes from knowing the person for a long time and being on very good terms with one another, it’s not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 02:23 PM |
| – | Why do men make fun of things women like?Yeah you’re right. You can simply end the relationship by saying “we have an incompatible view of life” which is what most people do rather than going into a rant about someone’s beliefs and trying to change them. The saying “choose your battles wisely” seems to fit hare and this is just a meaningless battle to engage in if you’ve already decided the person is incompatible. I think either these guys are poorly socialized or trying to engage in “negging” which is part of putting on the person of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 02:15 PM |
| – | Why do men make fun of things women like?Stacey widowed ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 02:09 PM |
| – | Why do men make fun of things women like?Men can’t have opinions? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 02:09 PM |
| – | Why do men make fun of things women like?If a man is honest he’s bound to say something a bit controversial like the guys expressing their opinions here. That’s just human nature - we don’t agree on everything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 02:08 PM |
| – | Why do men make fun of things women like?Some of guys care more about sex though and are looking for a real lifetime partner to be with. In that case it’s fair game to get for any major red flags | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 02:05 PM |
| – | Why do men make fun of things women like?I don’t think the “negging” technique is as effective as TRP guys claim it to be especially if you are dealing with someone who doesn’t have high self-esteem. As for you sleeping with those women… men have 0 standards anyways and we’ve known that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 02:03 PM |
| – | Why do men make fun of things women like?Nobody cares about that stuff. It was definitely the astrology that sunk OP | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 01:58 PM |
| 1 | Are people open to dating others with potential or do they only want the finished product?Nobody is 100% finished but there are diminishing returns. Someone with a friend group of 1000 compared to 5000 is going to both have moire than enough social validation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 12:37 AM |
| -2 | Why is it that Men „enjoy“ being seen as Sex objects, while Women don‘t?Until they meet the male model In person | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 12:24 AM |
| 7 | Why is it that Men „enjoy“ being seen as Sex objects, while Women don‘t?Those women aren’t sexually attracted to their husbands | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 12:24 AM |
| 1 | Are people open to dating others with potential or do they only want the finished product?I’m 23 if it means anything | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 12:19 AM |
| 1 | Are people open to dating others with potential or do they only want the finished product?But all the comments mention having taller boyfriends and husbands. They aren’t just femcels coping or dreaming. Instead of 6’ though the husbands heights here are like 6’5” - 6’10” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 12:17 AM |
| 1 | Are people open to dating others with potential or do they only want the finished product?But what about all the comments agreeing with her? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 11:54 PM |
| 1 | Are people open to dating others with potential or do they only want the finished product?Read the thread and the feelings in that thread. I agree with you what women say doesn’t always match how they act but when they start talking about feelings / the spark / etc you need to pay attention | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 11:53 PM |
| 1 | Are people open to dating others with potential or do they only want the finished product?Take a look at this and read the comments: https://www.reddit.com/r/TallGirls/comments/182vp6i/i_kissed_my_tallest_man_so_far_and_it_was_heaven/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 11:49 PM |
| 1 | Are people open to dating others with potential or do they only want the finished product?The women are insecure about their height especially those in the 5’0” - 5’2” range so they do see it as a defect in a sense. I guess it really depends on how we argue the term “defect” here. Perhaps insecurity is a better term but not an actual setback in the dating market. And by tall I meant they are obsessed with guys 5’11”+. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 11:47 PM |
| 1 | Are people open to dating others with potential or do they only want the finished product?No marriage is perfect | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 11:40 PM |
| 2 | Are people open to dating others with potential or do they only want the finished product?Some were distasters but I do see a lot of success stories too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 11:35 PM |
| 0 | Are people open to dating others with potential or do they only want the finished product?Taller than me? Because those women ranged 5’0” - 5’6”. I’m 5’8” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 11:34 PM |
| 1 | Are people open to dating others with potential or do they only want the finished product?Everybody tells short guys to go for short women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 11:33 PM |
| 5 | Are people open to dating others with potential or do they only want the finished product?Yeah it’s similar to the job market where employers don’t want to train anymore | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 11:22 PM |
| 1 | Are people open to dating others with potential or do they only want the finished product?A nursery does not translate over to adult life or even life post-puberty. I was pretty confident in elementary school but it had 0 relevance to today since that stage of life has 0 relevance to dating | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 11:21 PM |
| 1 | Are people open to dating others with potential or do they only want the finished product?This is what I don’t understand about modern women. You’d think that they would be willing to accept men with similar defect as them. But in fact they double down on that attribute. For example I am a short guy and when I have spoken to short women and listen to them talk they are all obsessed with tall men. So it doesn’t given the man with a defect any chance | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 11:02 PM |
| 2 | Are people open to dating others with potential or do they only want the finished product?In the past during the boomer era people entered LTR with the high school sweetheart. Neither were finished products. What changed ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 10:59 PM |
| 1 | Are most men actually geared for romance or is it usually just a means to an end?Which post? Can you comment and share the link | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 09:30 PM |
| 2 | Most single lonely men are not struggling with women because they're old fashioned misogynistsBottom 10% isn’t normal | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 06:04 PM |
| 3 | For those who believe it’s impossible to find women who aren’t promiscuous - do you believe promiscuity is natural in women then?I mean from all the ones I know they didn’t divorce. But I’m in a really conservative area where divorce is preached as a sin. Lot of sermons around how partners should communicate and work problems out and how God’s plan is one woman, one man for life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 03:27 AM |
| 1 | Having 0 suitors and 100 suitors is the same thing if you don’t like any of themYes I would. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 03:23 AM |
| 1 | If we assume that 20/80 rule is true, how would u describe the top 20% guy (in early 20s)?It doesn’t help if you aren’t sexually attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 03:22 AM |
| 1 | For those who believe it’s impossible to find women who aren’t promiscuous - do you believe promiscuity is natural in women then?Not the actual prudes in religious circles | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 02:06 AM |
| 5 | Having 0 suitors and 100 suitors is the same thing if you don’t like any of themAmong those 100, many of them are your looksmatch. Guys would definitely take the deal, if their looksmatch was interested | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 02:04 AM |
| 1 | when is a woman actually good enough to commit to?If he’s 6ft tall and fixes his hair style he isn’t average. You may think he’s average but he’s actually getting a ton of female interest | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 01:53 AM |
| 1 | If we assume that 20/80 rule is true, how would u describe the top 20% guy (in early 20s)?Talking to women is easy So is becoming an acquaintance. Doesn’t mean they will be sexually attracted to you if you are short. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 01:18 AM |
| 2 | when is a woman actually good enough to commit to?I’m assuming the first guy is average to you because he’s on the skinny side? Hate to break it to you but tall and skinny is hot if he has a good face. Muscle only matters for short dudes or average height dudes who need an alternate way to show their masculinity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 01:04 AM |
| 1 | “modern women” aren’t real. They’re a result of algorithmically driven content consumption.Observing women is pretty easy to do. Even becoming acquaintances. That’s a far lower bar than having to actually have a woman attracted to you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 12:48 AM |
| 2 | when is a woman actually good enough to commit to?To put it bluntly the hot and attractive ones do but with some guy quite a bit below her looks wise. The average ones or below average often don’t. At least this is my observation irl | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 11:52 PM |
| 4 | when is a woman actually good enough to commit to?Provide a stock image of what you think the average guy looks like The average guys I know struggles to get even one date and goes crazy whenever he gets a gf. They aren’t an incel but definitely struggling a fair bit. Not the pump and dump type. And none of them are fat | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 11:39 PM |
| 4 | If we assume that 20/80 rule is true, how would u describe the top 20% guy (in early 20s)?5’11”+ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 07:51 PM |
| 8 | If we assume that 20/80 rule is true, how would u describe the top 20% guy (in early 20s)?The men who I see woman fawn over and share with their friends are all tall. And yes, women do talk about guys in a physical and sexual manner just like guys do. They just usually don’t outwardly display it as much unless you’re in their friend groups | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 07:44 PM |
| 5 | If we assume that 20/80 rule is true, how would u describe the top 20% guy (in early 20s)?They cared but as you said it was moreso about dating someone taller than them and there were definitely exceptions even to that. But after social media / OLD it changed to taller than them in heels. And then taller than them + a few inches in heels. And then close to 6ft. Part of the reason this happened is due to the normalization of distance and online dating so women could actually consider guys who lived further away / not in their immediate cirlce. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 07:43 PM |
| 8 | when is a woman actually good enough to commit to?Average guys are not pumping and dumping. They don’t have the ability to even if they wanted to. To clarify “average” should be used only when talking about looks. Dating someone with equivalent education or income to you isn’t necessarily dating someone average because most people date within their social circle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 07:40 PM |
| 3 | If we assume that 20/80 rule is true, how would u describe the top 20% guy (in early 20s)?No there isn’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 07:15 PM |
| 5 | If we assume that 20/80 rule is true, how would u describe the top 20% guy (in early 20s)?This is not true among the younger generation. I’ve personally seen a dramatic shift in height preferences in the past decade among women around me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 07:15 PM |
| -1 | If we assume that 20/80 rule is true, how would u describe the top 20% guy (in early 20s)?Checks conversion to US height system Sad because I fall below the height cutoff | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 07:12 PM |
| 0 | For those who believe it’s impossible to find women who aren’t promiscuous - do you believe promiscuity is natural in women then?The prudes get married at like 19. It’s not really relevant for the adult dating market | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 07:05 PM |
| 2 | Does the Madonna complex cause relationships to get ruined?Stopped what? How he viewed her ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 07:04 PM |
| 9 | when is a woman actually good enough to commit to?You’ll never be good enough for Chad. This is why we actually tell women to consider their looksmatch before having the “hoe phase”. After the hoe phase you will have to date down in terms of looks. If you’re a single mom, you might not get anyone. I see it a lot around me irl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 07:03 PM |
| 3 | For those who believe it’s impossible to find women who aren’t promiscuous - do you believe promiscuity is natural in women then?They are having sex just not sex that could lead to pregnancy or impact their N count | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 06:59 PM |
| 4 | Most single lonely men are not struggling with women because they're old fashioned misogynists23 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 06:46 PM |
| 5 | Most single lonely men are not struggling with women because they're old fashioned misogynistsI don’t have autism and actually have pretty good social skills. I’ll leave it to you why I’m still an incel | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 05:22 PM |
| 8 | Most single lonely men are not struggling with women because they're old fashioned misogynistsHow someone looks, isn’t quite right but how someone behaves especially around the opposite gender in places like the bar and club, says a lot about a person | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 05:21 PM |
| 2 | Does the Madonna complex cause relationships to get ruined?Being a mom doesn’t mean you have to stop acting sexy or affectionate with your husband in front of the kids. I have seen many mothers continue as they were before even after having kids. So I’m confused why you changed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 04:57 PM |
| 2 | Birth rates are going to keep plummetingAs I said this is only a concern among UMC educated professionals. And your other concerns apply to the same demographic as well. Blue collar guys / working class do better off relatively in LCOL cities. In some cases middle class can do better as well. For example rural IT jobs pay about $60-$65k starting which isn’t far off from the pay grade in larger cities. Engineers can also get roughly the same pay in factories located in LCOL areas. Lower level accountants as well. The people who benefit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 04:01 PM |
| 2 | Men say they want one thing in women yet their actions say something else entirelyCan you rephrase your question? I am having trouble understanding | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 03:54 PM |
| 3 | Men say they want one thing in women yet their actions say something else entirelyNo I’m not. The women men throw money at and simp after online aren’t the same women they describe as their ideal wife. There are exceptions of course, but those are exceptions | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 02:19 PM |
| 0 | Does the Madonna complex cause relationships to get ruined?Why did you change ? You don’t have to change or be different in front of kids | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 02:08 PM |
| 5 | “modern women” aren’t real. They’re a result of algorithmically driven content consumption.You can vett or observe women before approaching them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 04:02 AM |
| 3 | Men say they want one thing in women yet their actions say something else entirelyI find it interesting how people complain about being unsuccessful on the dating market but then go unhinged when you try to point out where things are going wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 11:48 PM |
| 8 | Men say they want one thing in women yet their actions say something else entirelyThe point here is that being “wifey material” or whatever caricature redpillers create is not sexually attractive to men, which is why you don’t see high value men marrying such women. A lot of guys want girls to have sex with and fantasize over and than a separate stable woman to raise the kids and be a good mother for his kids. I’ll leave it to you to decide which is which. I think the only things real religious guys care about these days is past sexual / physical intimacy, and someone interes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 11:45 PM |
| 1 | Birth rates are going to keep plummetingMost people don’t even think about the quality of the schools. This is something I really only hear among UMC educated professionals. Most people simply don’t care about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 11:41 PM |
| 2 | Men say they want one thing in women yet their actions say something else entirelyYou called yourself a religious “modest good woman” I’ve seen your type irl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 11:40 PM |
| 2 | Men say they want one thing in women yet their actions say something else entirelyI’m a guy, I know what it means. I get that traditional leaning women might feel warm and fuzzy after hearing that term but it’s just part of the grift players use. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 11:38 PM |
| 2 | Men say they want one thing in women yet their actions say something else entirelyThat is how you basically describe yourself and say you aren’t getting attention from men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 11:37 PM |
| 5 | Men say they want one thing in women yet their actions say something else entirelyWrong about what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 11:35 PM |
| 2 | Men say they want one thing in women yet their actions say something else entirelyBeing traditional doesn’t mean dressing and behaving like an Amish girl. You can have never had physical intimacy but still behave, act and dress normally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 11:34 PM |
| 3 | Men say they want one thing in women yet their actions say something else entirelyYeah as a conservative male , I think women give themselves up way too easily. Not much different from an escort | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 11:32 PM |
| 10 | Men say they want one thing in women yet their actions say something else entirelyGuys engage in the dual mating strategy as well . If a man calls you “wifey material” it means he isn’t sexually attracted to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 11:30 PM |
| 1 | Birth rates are going to keep plummetingIt is possible or was at least. They just lived in very LCOL areas. Covid though has completely ruined housing prices everywhere though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 09:01 PM |
| 2 | Birth rates are going to keep plummetingI wonder how much is due to differing views on abortion and the usage of birth control in general | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 09:00 PM |
| 1 | I think many men want single women to be miserable because it gives them a sense of importance.I think you are making an argument around highest value not “high value”. Also in the modern era value is measured by the amount of resources one can provide immediately or in a very short manner. Long gone are the days of marrying the potential underdog. Everyone wants the finished product now | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 08:59 PM |
| 7 | “modern women” aren’t real. They’re a result of algorithmically driven content consumption.A lot of woman are 1 and 4 irl, yeah. 4 is the most common, but you definitely see 1 a lot. People who lash out at you if you have even a slight criticism of their viewpoints (often political). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 08:56 PM |
| 1 | What can older guys do to not feel shortchanged in the dating world, like they say?“Work hard play hard” usually ends just being work hard. At least when a company says it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 08:54 PM |
| 32 | “modern women” aren’t real. They’re a result of algorithmically driven content consumption.“entitled, very high n count, has an OF account, only aims for ‘chad’, will divorce you over nothing, will freak out if you approach them - you know the type” You’re acting like you need all of these to be the woman RP men talk about. You just need one. Irl a lot of women are #1 or #4 but don’t have any of the other traits | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 06:44 PM |
| -3 | I think many men want single women to be miserable because it gives them a sense of importance.High value men Using old are doing so for hookups They can get commitment easily without ever touching an app, woman watch them and pursue them in person | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 06:22 PM |
| -1 | I think many men want single women to be miserable because it gives them a sense of importance.Who says that? Wall is around early 30s usually, mid 30s in rare cases. It’s only earlier if the girl is a meth user or something or gains weight rapidly post high school. Assuming she actually tries to maintain herself it’s around the 30s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 06:00 PM |
| 1 | The one factor that causes the breakdown of the relationship that we're apparently not allowed to discuss: children. (part 2)Sexual attraction goes down during the first year for sure. The attraction to beta zeros out while the attraction to alpha is about 80% of what it was (and still strong) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 05:20 PM |
| -1 | I think many men want single women to be miserable because it gives them a sense of importance.The wall is about commitment from high value men. Past a certain age women do hit this wall because biologically having kids becomes harder which a lot of high value men want | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 05:11 PM |
| 8 | why do you all take the manipulative arguments of the opposite sex so seriously?That depends on the person. Some women actually do want a partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 05:02 PM |
| 11 | why do you all take the manipulative arguments of the opposite sex so seriously?Not really. Some of this is just facts. If you have very high standards relative to your own value, you almost certainly will stay single for life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 03:03 PM |
| 2 | Male obsession with virginity is overratedEven among the virgins most have had sexual intimacy of some kind | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 03:02 PM |
| -4 | Male obsession with virginity is overratedIt does make men run through as well, but women actually value high N guys due to social proof. Then they ask “where are all the good men” after getting pumped and dumped by the hot player boy yet again | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 03:00 PM |
| 3 | Where are men finding so many dysfunctional crappy women?I live in a small city and everything mentioned is quite common here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 02:57 PM |
| 1 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSConservative small city. Not at all uncommon. In fact I just heard the other day about a family friend’s granddaughter getting married and already with a kid at 19 now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 01:59 PM |
| 1 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSAbout 30-40% depending which study you look at Although pretty much every woman I know who is single in the 18-30 bracket is holding out for Chad. They have interest but refuse it. The number of woman who are willing to date average men on the market is far less | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 01:58 PM |
| 0 | What can older guys do to not feel shortchanged in the dating world, like they say?But they aren’t the successful ones. The point is about the ones who develop social skills and actually achieve success in their careers. Not the ones who remain stuck at the entry level | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 01:52 PM |
| 1 | Women criticise men for having reasonable boundariesWhat people are saying here is don’t date the women who dress like that. People are making a fundamental assumption that women are dressing a certain way to specifically enter a relationship and then after entering a relationship would dress differently. This assumption is completely false, because women don’t need to dress a certain way to get attention because they are already drowning in it. Because of that you can’t change how a woman dresses. Anyways usually woman who wear less tend to date… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 04:14 AM |
| 2 | Women criticise men for having reasonable boundariesChange in this case would be asking her to remove all her tattoos and never get a single one again | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 04:06 AM |
| 1 | What can older guys do to not feel shortchanged in the dating world, like they say?But once you move into your late 20s and 30s the nature of the job changes to one more based in people skills and communication if they want to move up the ladder. The successful ones aren’t as likely to be stuck on screens | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 03:17 AM |
| 1 | What can older guys do to not feel shortchanged in the dating world, like they say?In the fraternity crowd, sure Not in the STEM crowd though lol especially tech. Plenty of people worked very hard and didn’t have time for the social life. I also know People who rigorously tried for med school with a similar dynamic Different degrees, different paths | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 02:31 AM |
| 1 | "Never compare yourself to her ex" but she definitely willNot really. I see it a lot where I live. And it’s pretty obvious when you examine single mothers. Like who the baby daddy is versus who ends up being the step dad | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 02:29 AM |
| – | What do women think cold approaching means? Is the following acceptable?Honestly I wouldn’t listen to the people here. Reddit heavily skews for extremely socially awkward introverts. Out in the real world strangers chat with each other all the time for a variety of reasons. It’s not that big of a deal | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 02:04 AM |
| 1 | What can older guys do to not feel shortchanged in the dating world, like they say?I would consider neither if ugly means overweight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 11:18 PM |
| 1 | What can older guys do to not feel shortchanged in the dating world, like they say?What is your weight? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 10:29 PM |
| -1 | What can older guys do to not feel shortchanged in the dating world, like they say?Women who are actually fit and control their weight are almost never perceived as ugly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 10:26 PM |
| 3 | What can older guys do to not feel shortchanged in the dating world, like they say?Lots of young men don’t date, that is The majority of females are not single in the 18-30 bracket | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 10:24 PM |
| 8 | What can older guys do to not feel shortchanged in the dating world, like they say?I mean it takes a while to get the degrees and work the entry level jobs And those who are entrepreneurs struggle in the early stages It’s not the fantasy you think it is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 10:22 PM |
| 1 | SURVEY RESULTS, NEW MODS, AND OTHER JANNYISMS? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 10:15 PM |
| 1 | "Never compare yourself to her ex" but she definitely willI can see what you are saying be true if your circle is ex-sorority girls who are generally top 5-10% anyways and can get the same sort of men for commitment they had casual sex with Most guys here don’t focus on the top 5-10% as they are out of our league | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 09:47 PM |
| 1 | SURVEY RESULTS, NEW MODS, AND OTHER JANNYISMSWhat about men to men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 07:35 PM |
| 6 | Would you like women settle for you or even be forced to be with you? Do you even care about love?They aren’t on Reddit. Everything on Reddit was tame I’d get banned if I wrote the names here; so I’ll have to leave the research to yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 06:21 PM |
| 9 | Would you like women settle for you or even be forced to be with you? Do you even care about love?They need to hurry up with AI robot gfs. You’re absolutely right that a loving, caring human gf is what guys really want but most of us have given up on it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 04:55 PM |
| 5 | Would you like women settle for you or even be forced to be with you? Do you even care about love?If you think this is bad you should check out some of the real incel communities. PPD is a joke compared to those | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 04:54 PM |
| 2 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSMaybe he can but it won’t ever be as good as it was with the hotter woman. Ever. Plenty of Stacy widows among guys. I talk to a lot of boomers (based on where I live) and they STILL talk about the hot ex that they had at 14 or 15 or the “one who got away” 40-50 years later sometimes even in front of their wife who is somewhat annoyed but doesn’t stop them. These guys have literally had kids, grandkids and spent decades with their current wife yet they never forget about the hot ex or stop wishin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 04:48 PM |
| 1 | Women's struggles in dating are in no way equal to that of menAnd you never had any intimacy with them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 04:45 PM |
| 2 | 4 things I feel men should always remember.It depends on the profession. If you work in something like luxury sales you obviously need to be more presentable, but that applies to men as well, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 04:13 PM |
| 1 | Women's struggles in dating are in no way equal to that of menNever dated ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 04:12 PM |
| 2 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSBut she isn’t sexually attracted to her current partner like she was Chad. So the feeling never comes back. Of course the exception is if the current partner is the hottest / most sexually appealing of all past partners but this isn’t generally how it works because the bar for casual sex is on the floor for women, but commitment is higher | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 04:11 PM |
| 1 | "Never compare yourself to her ex" but she definitely willThe thing is stuff like AF/BB is pretty common. I agree if the chance of a bad event is 1% it’s paranoid, if it’s 50% it’s not | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 04:07 PM |
| 1 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSPeople get into relationships with those they aren’t sexually attracted to for social reasons, wanting kids, financial reasons, etc. Hypergamy is about sexual desire about what the genders want, not what they end up resentfully settling for | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 04:06 PM |
| 1 | "Never compare yourself to her ex" but she definitely willYes, to me it’s all sex. But for N-count studies they only measure sex that a woman could get pregnant from And from what I know from Chads women are 100% exploiting this; especially the religious girls who claim they are a virgin or saving themselves for marriage | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 04:02 PM |
| 1 | Women's struggles in dating are in no way equal to that of menHow many men have you been physically intimate with | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 04:01 PM |
| 2 | Women's struggles in dating are in no way equal to that of menThat’s not what is relevant here. It’s the proportion of men compared to women who pass those 5 criteria (assuming you meet those yourself). Women with all those 5 criteria are a unicorn in the US, because #1 alone makes them highly sought after by men, while the opposite isn’t true for guys because height is prioritized ahead of body | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 03:57 PM |
| 1 | Women's struggles in dating are in no way equal to that of menThere are but they get passed over due to the obsession with height here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 03:32 PM |
| 1 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSPlenty of people date and marry those they aren’t sexually attracted to | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 03:28 PM |
| 2 | Women's struggles in dating are in no way equal to that of menThis sounds like a geography issue tbh. You’d be drowning in options where I live or anywhere in the US really | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 03:05 PM |
| 2 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSStudy was also replicated via Tinder | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 03:02 PM |
| 1 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSWell women’s preferences obviously vary to an extent. Not all women are attracted to the exact same men. 80/20 is making a comment about the population of 80% of the women liking 20% of the men, not each individual woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 03:00 PM |
| 2 | Women's struggles in dating are in no way equal to that of menThe question is asking about stable partners not being single which is two different questions. Plenty of women in FWB/ situationships type relationships which top men which aren’t stable but they are single either | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 02:59 PM |
| 8 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSIt’s not better in person, the line between online and in person is very much blurred for the younger generation. Everyone has had exposure to social media in some way or another. I’ve tried and it’s absolutely brutal as a 5’8” dude. A lot of the stuff people talk about here plays out irl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 04:17 AM |
| 10 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSThat’s the latest study, there’s been a lot of rapid growth in the area especially in the past decade. Estimates for dating app solely is about 25% or so; but your original comment of “stop meeting people on the internet and acting like it’s reality” is wrong regardless since a majority of relationships form online now | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 03:59 AM |
| 13 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSNiche Attraction / Bizarre attraction patterns High school sweetheart Those who derive most of their sexual attraction from personality Those who opted out of going after Chad These women do exist but as you can imagine they don’t last very long on the market. Unless their niche attraction is rare and chances are if it is you don’t fulfill it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 03:58 AM |
| 2 | Women's struggles in dating are in no way equal to that of menHow much do you weigh? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 03:38 AM |
| 11 | Women's struggles in dating are in no way equal to that of men63% of men under 30 are single | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 03:30 AM |
| 3 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BS80/20 is based on how women rated men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 03:21 AM |
| 14 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BS53% of couples meet online per the latest Stanford study | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 03:16 AM |
| 1 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSYou can still differentiate even among younger people. Qualities such as height and face, for example even if people are a good weight. And many young people aren’t good weight either | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 03:08 AM |
| 6 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSYou asked for mediocre men. I could have mentioned the ex frat bros I know who are mostly in relationships but they aren’t mediocre looking. So yes I had to tap into the pool of classic STEM guys. Although I see similar results when just scanning in public. Your argument regarding the age gaps breaks down because it requires 2 assumptions 1) Dating starts at 18 2) The average age gap is consistent across age. If these 2 assumptions were true then we could say that the 18-21 guys are single by de… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 03:04 AM |
| 1 | 4 things I feel men should always remember.No I’m saying the girl who makes 100k is out of his league Not the barista | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 02:50 AM |
| -1 | 4 things I feel men should always remember.Not if he is a guy here. Those women would be out of his league | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 02:45 AM |
| 2 | 4 things I feel men should always remember.Wdym An SWE is rich in the eyes of a barista | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 02:33 AM |
| 4 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BS“Fewer options” is still far more than those guys can juggle. After a certain point it doesn’t even matter anymore. Short/Tall analogy is not even close because height matters signficantly more | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 02:32 AM |
| 2 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSThere’s a pretty big gap between looking at a sorority girl (unless you’ve spent your whole life fantasizing being with sorority girls) and having sex with multiple Chads. There are plenty of studies on the biological and hormonal affects of sexual intimacy and even physical intimacy and how it impacts areas such as pair-bond mating, future sexual satisfaction, etc. During sex OxyContin is released to your brain which causes a similar effect to those who take opioids with regards to pleasure. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 02:29 AM |
| 17 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSI have and I see average couples all the time… who are mid 30s or over. Among the current generation almost every mediocre man I know is an incel or rarely dates. Tons of simps and orbiters too. Only the top % of men are regularly getting dates or generating interest from women. I only see girls fawn after a specific type of guy who is rare. I mean 63% of men under 30 are single. That stat doesn’t come from nowhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 02:25 AM |
| 8 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSThose reasonable women though get married at like 19 to the dude they met at 16 where I live, so it’s not particularly helpful for adult men in the dating market. Dating apps are a good proxy for the adult dating market. Also, they are gaining usage among the younger generations. It’s no longer just for mentally unstable leftover people, that is an old stereotype | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 02:13 AM |
| 8 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSIt’s about the younger generation. 63% of men under 30 are single | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 02:11 AM |
| 5 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSRace is a cope Ethnically handsome men have no trouble dating, even with UMC women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 02:09 AM |
| 6 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSAnd she isn’t sexually attracted to the betabuxxer she marries, she still wish she had the Chad she had casual sex with. Doesn’t disprove 80/20 or AF/BB | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 02:09 AM |
| 16 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSI mean if you go outside it’s not really that much better. The line between the outside and online is very much blurred with the younger generation. They all have pretty much used social media extensively in some capacity. The stat was also taken from both OkCupid and Tinder. However you yourself can manually estimate it using qualities such as height. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 02:02 AM |
| 3 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSWhat makes you think they are happy with stability at all? They never are they just go for it when they need it. That doesn’t mean it’s ever sexually exciting to them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 01:58 AM |
| 2 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSThey know who the good men are because they seem to find them immediately post-wall. That isn’t a coincidence like women try to tell you it is. These men just aren’t sexually attractive and are reliable backup options anyways (modern men have 0 standards). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 01:56 AM |
| 7 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSDo what? Don’t work at all? Maybe Canada has more generous benefits but the refusal to work is the issue here. You don’t have to be a single mom to misuse such benefits. In the US you can’t afford a 2bd apt doing nothing. Income restricted housing has such a long waitlist it’s practically useless. And even then you have to pay the rent | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 01:54 AM |
| 6 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSTop men use dating apps because it is very efficient for hookups and obtaining sex Much more efficient than the club | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 01:47 AM |
| 10 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSThe guys who were hot initially and fumble the ball later and the guys who weren’t hot but turned out to be rockstars later most likely even out. So we end up back where we started | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 01:19 AM |
| 14 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSIt’s based on a few different dating app studies. You can also yourself manually estimate the odds of a guy having the traits women say they look for. Height is usually the biggest one in making the final % of attractive guys small | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 01:15 AM |
| 2 | 4 things I feel men should always remember.High value Chad’s standards are not the average male’s standards which is my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 01:13 AM |
| 12 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSYour first and second sentence contradict each other | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 12:56 AM |
| 11 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSThe benefits the government provides single moms is minimal and just so the kids don’t die. Every single mom I see works full time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 12:55 AM |
| 63 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BS80% of women are sexually attracted to the top 20% of men. There’s a difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 12:36 AM |
| 2 | "Never compare yourself to her ex" but she definitely willYes, it is because I used to hang out on the widower subreddits and guilt during sex was an extremely common theme that would come up for both men and women. Many of them felt bad like they were cheating and were torn because they wanted another partner for company and emotional intimacy but still felt sexually attached to their partner who had passed. Contrary to what is written here many men actually want an exclusive, loyal relationship with a partner and want to honor that loyalty if their p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 11:27 PM |
| 3 | "Never compare yourself to her ex" but she definitely willI think you might be able to find it still then. Plenty of widowers are lonely and want company but have a lot of guilt when it comes to sex and sleeping with someone who isn’t their love who passed and would ideally want a partnership similar to what you describe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 11:11 PM |
| 6 | "Never compare yourself to her ex" but she definitely willThey are romantic partners. There was attraction that led to sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 10:53 PM |
| 3 | "Never compare yourself to her ex" but she definitely willOh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 10:51 PM |
| 1 | 4 things I feel men should always remember.None of that is necessary to be pretty outside of the gym membership. I live in a small city with more poorer people. A pretty girl is pretty with frizzy hair wearing a plain T-shirt , ripped jeans and visible acne. She doesn’t need the other dozens of things you wrote to be pretty. Those accentuate looks a little, but aren’t necessary at all. Minimum wage workers date all the time and are sexually attracted to each other. Those girls don’t have much money but can still be good looking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 10:49 PM |
| 2 | "Never compare yourself to her ex" but she definitely willLol at all the commenters claiming they promptly forget about an ex who they spent years with and wanted to build a life with. Either they are lying or see men just for their resources / what they can provide and not as humans. Either way this is a frightening thread | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 10:43 PM |
| 3 | "Never compare yourself to her ex" but she definitely willYou can try dating a guy who is a widower. Similar dynamic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 10:42 PM |
| 2 | "Never compare yourself to her ex" but she definitely willThey count and you should be disclosing them to any future partner | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 10:35 PM |
| 3 | "Never compare yourself to her ex" but she definitely willPeople can have sex without increasing their N-count N-count is measuring something specific | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 10:34 PM |
| 4 | "Never compare yourself to her ex" but she definitely willOr it’s called being practical | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 10:32 PM |
| 0 | 4 things I feel men should always remember.It doesn’t cost a ton of money for a woman to maintain her appearance, at least not any more than it costs a man to be presentable in society | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 10:28 PM |
| 5 | 4 things I feel men should always remember.Most of the men here concerned about that work in tech | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 10:27 PM |
| 5 | 4 things I feel men should always remember.“Rich” is a relative term | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 10:27 PM |
| 1 | The whole women want to use their 20s to concentrate on their careers seems like an excuse?Your initial goalpost of “Getting drunk with girlfriends and traveling” sounds much closer to going to a rave or Ibiza then it does “hanging out with girlfriends” or “never being allowed to do anything “ which is the goal posts you’ve made now. The new goalposts are just a sign of a partner who is way too controlling, and is not an age dependent issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 09:00 PM |
| 1 | What percentage of men attract you? What is your opinion of the men who don't attract you?“I find this person emotionally attractive” = close person with no emphasis on looks “I find this person physically attractive” = 100% emphasis on looks with no emphasis on the closeness of the person “I find this person sexually attractive” = a combination of the above plus often a relationship bond | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 07:51 PM |
| 1 | The whole women want to use their 20s to concentrate on their careers seems like an excuse?Insecurity is a part of it but that’s usually a sign of an unhealthy relationship. In terms of clubbing I’m referring to partners who actually enjoy partying with each other and the energy the other person brings. Like for example in EDM you see a lot of rave couples who actually like to go together and they have a bond similar to that that girls would have with each other. Again if your ex was “tagging along” but not actually partying or making the mood enjoyable with you then this is an incomp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 07:46 PM |
| 0 | What percentage of men attract you? What is your opinion of the men who don't attract you?People are answering the question based on sexual attraction, not physical attraction which is what was being asked | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 06:19 PM |
| 1 | What percentage of men attract you? What is your opinion of the men who don't attract you?The 4’11” girl is dating 6ft male where I am. They are usually Asian girls which is quickly rising in popularity among local guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 06:18 PM |
| 2 | The whole women want to use their 20s to concentrate on their careers seems like an excuse?What about getting married in the 20s and waiting a decade to have kids? Everyone here acts like marriage = automatic kids the next year | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 02:51 PM |
| 0 | The whole women want to use their 20s to concentrate on their careers seems like an excuse?If you saw your ex boyfriend as “tagging along” or “guarding you”, you are not sexually attracted to him and you all are not personally compatible. People with an active lifestyle usually date each other. The same goes for partying and clubbing. Most people are dating in their 20s and do not have the same issues you outlined | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 02:49 PM |
| 1 | CMV: the Blue Pill/Beta Bux strategy is the best strategy for the vast majority of menYou’re right, but your study and claim are going into blackpill territory which can get you banned here. Tread carefully here my guy but everything you’ve written is 100% correct | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 02:45 PM |
| – | The fact that so many women have a problem with a man who goes 50/50 is proof that most women just want to use men and don't actually care about them.No they just tend to be handsome with a lot of sex appeal | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 02:12 PM |
| – | A lot of people nowadays are telling men to move out of the west to find partners. For the people saying this, do you believe the opposite is true for women? In other words is it ideal for women elsewhere in the world to try and date in the west, and for western women to stay in the west.Now you’re just repeating stereotypes about SEA that are just wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 12:15 AM |
| 1 | The one factor that ruins many marriages that we're apparently not allowed to discuss: childrenThe e-girls many men simp after are not the same type of women they marry | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 11:52 PM |
| – | A lot of people nowadays are telling men to move out of the west to find partners. For the people saying this, do you believe the opposite is true for women? In other words is it ideal for women elsewhere in the world to try and date in the west, and for western women to stay in the west.Nothing in your comment mentioned men or anything to do with men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 09:01 PM |
| – | Loneliness has nothing to do with genderMost men want a loving, committed relationship. The hot men who want it are off the market, the average men remain. You all come across these average good men every day but you don’t want them. Of the 63% single most want to be in a loving relationship. The fact is there are a glut of men in the 18-30 range who are average good men and single, and the fact you are pointing out women dating older guys only reinforces the point in making. I know you all though. You’ll keep fawning after the 6’1” j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 07:49 PM |
| – | Loneliness has nothing to do with genderReread the following: Your looksmatch would gladly date you and love you but you don’t want him That’s not the same as sex. I’m talking about a loving, long term committed relationship. Plenty of us guys are out there but we aren’t the hot player boy 6ft Chad so women don’t want us and ignore us. The stats itself speak for themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 07:25 PM |
| – | Loneliness has nothing to do with genderThe statement I just said isn’t wrong. 63% of men under 30 are single. If your lonely as a woman here it’s on you. The solution isn’t that difficult. Your looksmatch would gladly date you and love you but you don’t want him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 07:19 PM |
| 1 | AF: BB is still the ruling principleRural towns aren’t any different except the BB is raising another man’s kid and marrying a single mom | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 07:13 PM |
| 5 | Women have a tendency to victimize themselves by framing past relationships that didn't work out as involving "manipulation" or "abuse"It’s a lot easier to get an average man to be your betabuxxer if you never admit you were sexually attracted to or enjoyed having sex with the hot player. A 5’9” average looking dude is going to feel insecure and not confident if he knew the girl actually had raw desire and passion for a 6’1” ripped male - passion that is gone as she’s hit the wall now. This is why women give a lot of explanations that NEVER admit she found the guy hot or had desire for him. Women are masters at EQ and shifting … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 06:07 PM |
| 0 | Loneliness has nothing to do with genderNo they actually spend their free time admiring Chads on their phone and talking to other women about some hot dude they are lusting after. I’ve seen it a LOT irl | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 06:02 PM |
| 2 | Loneliness has nothing to do with genderYes I’m aware according to PPD women guys like Jason Momoa is ugly and the standards here are insane . But in the outside world those guys were definitely perceived as handsome with tons of options. Ugly people don’t cheat, they can’t even if they wanted to | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 04:56 PM |
| 0 | Loneliness has nothing to do with genderYou see you are adding a bunch of qualifications now to the man who would take away a woman’s loneliness. This is why this whole thread is a joke. If women were willing to date men at their own level or slightly below they’d be drowning in options for commitment. But they won’t and can only love the top % of men who won’t love them back | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 04:12 PM |
| 2 | Loneliness has nothing to do with genderThey aren’t picking the good men they want the hot player men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 04:10 PM |
| 6 | Loneliness has nothing to do with genderThose women can easily find partners at their level. They want the handsome Prince Charming to sweep them off their feet | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 04:09 PM |
| -1 | Loneliness has nothing to do with genderThey want to be touched and loved by Chad. There are a glut of average decent men on the market who get passed over and ignored | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 04:05 PM |
| 0 | Loneliness has nothing to do with genderThis is like rich people saying “money doesn’t matter” A girlfriend would solve a lot of problems for a lot of guys here. No it won’t be done weird perfect utopia but the emotional support and just having someone else to share about your life with each other is tremendous. There’s a reason why society keeps getting into relationships and looking for love | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 04:03 PM |
| 1 | Loneliness has nothing to do with genderI agree “loneliness” = Chad won’t commit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 04:01 PM |
| 1 | If women are attracted to the more party animal type of guys, can guys be like that to attract women?The relationship will fail eventually due to the pressure of her social circle. You’re simply arguing about the timing it fails, not actually disagreeing with me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 03:09 PM |
| 3 | A lot of people nowadays are telling men to move out of the west to find partners. For the people saying this, do you believe the opposite is true for women? In other words is it ideal for women elsewhere in the world to try and date in the west, and for western women to stay in the west.Education isn’t valued because most of the degrees do not have a good ROI. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 02:57 PM |
| 1 | A lot of people nowadays are telling men to move out of the west to find partners. For the people saying this, do you believe the opposite is true for women? In other words is it ideal for women elsewhere in the world to try and date in the west, and for western women to stay in the west.I live in a smaller conservative area and most of those memes are directed towards people who studied degrees like history or gender studies and are working as a barista. CS/Engineering/Accounting/Health degrees get you a lot of respect here regardless of gender. I think you should be more specific about your job. Because If you just say “I have a Masters” and don’t elaborate it paints the image of the meme immediately | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 02:57 PM |
| 1 | A lot of people nowadays are telling men to move out of the west to find partners. For the people saying this, do you believe the opposite is true for women? In other words is it ideal for women elsewhere in the world to try and date in the west, and for western women to stay in the west.Educated women in tech are the most sought after in the tech world, more than you see anywhere else because the gender ratios are so bad. It’s very much a competition to get one. Most of the guys have here have been unsuccessful at least once (including yours truly). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 02:51 PM |
| 2 | A lot of people nowadays are telling men to move out of the west to find partners. For the people saying this, do you believe the opposite is true for women? In other words is it ideal for women elsewhere in the world to try and date in the west, and for western women to stay in the west.Yeah all Asian women are gold diggers. Keep telling yourself that The amount of racism that comes out from liberal women on this topic is honestly astounding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 02:46 PM |
| 3 | If women are attracted to the more party animal type of guys, can guys be like that to attract women?No it doesn’t. Contrary to what people want to believe, beauty standards among women are pretty close to that of those in their friend group; because women act as a group. Her friends have to approve of you as a bf as well, and if your ugly they will tell her she can do better or you look gross , etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 02:35 PM |
| 0 | Average and Just below average men are having a hard time because women are super pragmatic.Either they are with a Chad or Tyrone or in many cases are single moms already. Probably the majority of them are single moms here honestly which explains a lot of the dating imbalance here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 02:19 PM |
| 9 | Men lowering their standards didn’t widen the dating pool so stop doing it.Yeah, why should I care about helping the next generation of men? I’m going to be dead anyways and as an incel, I won’t have any sons to reap the benefits of this. I only have one life and I want a partner during that time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 02:17 PM |
| -1 | Men lowering their standards didn’t widen the dating pool so stop doing it.This is simply wrong. Plenty of women look towards the social approval of their friends when selecting a partner. Many look at the approval of their family. The idea romance is purely an individual process is mostly theoretical in nature. In practice, mate selection is very heavily impacted by one’s friends, family and perceived social circle | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 02:12 PM |
| 4 | Average and Just below average men are having a hard time because women are super pragmatic.Very overweight women are in relationships with Tyrone-lite and Chad-lite where I am. Even a woman being childless and not a single mom is hard to find. There is no league for the bottom men who want to start life from scratch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/23 11:14 PM |
| 1 | Undesirable people today are treated as poor working people in Victorian timesMost people would rather pick inceldom than experience love and die soon after due to cancer | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/23 08:32 PM |
| 0 | The one factor that ruins many marriages that we're apparently not allowed to discuss: childrenWe aren’t talking about the ones that resolve in a year or so. Dead bedrooms refers to marriages that never go back ever. The idea mothers can’t be “sexy” or good looking is something I see as more of an excuse to not be good looking in the US. Many mothers are literally still models and bodybuilders and actresses and the like | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/23 07:58 PM |
| 1 | The one factor that ruins many marriages that we're apparently not allowed to discuss: childrenI actually agree with this a lot. At the end of the day tons of single moms manage to raise 2-3 kids in their early / mid 20s. The only way they pull it off is by using parenting style two and training the kids to be as independent as possible and being supportive but only helping when it’s absolutely necessary | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/23 06:18 PM |
| -2 | The one factor that ruins many marriages that we're apparently not allowed to discuss: childrenHonestly the number of excuses people make in the US when it comes to losing weight is startling. Go to SEA and somehow the mothers there are almost all thin and lose the weight very quickly. And they have petite frames as well where it should be easier to become fat | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/23 06:13 PM |
| 2 | The one factor that ruins many marriages that we're apparently not allowed to discuss: childrenI mean there are many hot guys in college who follow the route you stated. The problem of course is the % of men find women sexually attractive is less than the number of women so only some get to lock down those guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/23 06:12 PM |
| 3 | The one factor that ruins many marriages that we're apparently not allowed to discuss: childrenOne of the common reasons women marry men they aren’t sexually attracted to is to get kids from the father. Once the kids are born the mother stops loving the father but because of the kids he’s always locked into the relationship to an extent. This can go both ways - men marry women they aren’t sexually attracted to for the same reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/23 06:09 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantPersonality is a very minor component in sexual attraction. If a woman isn’t sexually attracted to you and you’re in a relationship with her you’re a betabuxxer at best | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/23 04:26 AM |
| 1 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantNo because personality isn’t the only criteria in determining value | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 11:34 PM |
| 1 | Pregnant mom's dream job is to be a stay at home mom. What a surprise.lol no, there’s nothing traditional about sleeping with other men or having their kids. Liberal men can keep this one for yourselves | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 23/11/23 10:07 PM |
| 1 | Women are as creepy as men. Society just prefers to overlook their behavior.They are most likely voluntarily single. Meaning they’ve rejected many men before. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 07:37 PM |
| 1 | Women are as creepy as men. Society just prefers to overlook their behavior.I wish that was the case. In the US at least it isn’t | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 06:40 PM |
| 4 | Do you think different politics will keep men and women from dating each other?The comments in this thread are proof that being college educated does not mean you can think with nuance or rationality. Everyone is creating the most extreme caricature of the other side as a reason not to date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 06:38 PM |
| 1 | Anyone else noticed an uptick in women approaching?The competition for the top % of men continues to rapidly accelerate. For the average man though nothing OP wrote applies | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 03:15 PM |
| 1 | Women are as creepy as men. Society just prefers to overlook their behavior.They don’t know that until they’ve fixed the weight first because that is the primary attribute for male attraction | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 02:59 PM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleThe most recent version of that study has it over 50% now. But that’s online + apps | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 02:34 PM |
| 2 | If women are jealous of where all the good men have gone, how come they don't try sweeping them earlier in life?Aging as poorly as the commenter described is a choice that comes through a series of bad lifestyle choices. 30 year old women who engage in good practices and maintain their looks can still be seen as attractive. But the men who would have dated them are locked into marriages now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 07:32 PM |
| 3 | If women are jealous of where all the good men have gone, how come they don't try sweeping them earlier in life?Aging doesn’t just happen. If you get drunk and high regularly and expose your skin to the intense sun too much without sunscreen, this leads to skin aging. As for the weight they need to stop making excuses. Those 50 points can be lost. Male metabolism slows down as well but they go to the gym to compensate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 07:29 PM |
| 1 | If women are jealous of where all the good men have gone, how come they don't try sweeping them earlier in life?Plenty of people have kids out of wedlock. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 07:27 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantNot “think they’re kind” were talking about guys who are told they are funny, Kind , nice, etc by other women. Obviously they have to perceived to have a good personality by women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 12:24 AM |
| 1 | Is money really that important when it comes to relationships?They become single moms by early / mid 20s. But there is a time they are not single moms. Focus on the brand new hires | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 12:22 AM |
| 1 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantThe difference is those same basic girls want the high quality man. Just read how many commenters here talked down on the average man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 09:23 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantThis is not correct. Studies have shown that in Nordics the preference for height is actually 6’ 2” instead of 6’ in the US | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 06:36 PM |
| 3 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantMost women are mediocre and basic as well. Everybody keeps acting like all women are queens or something who deserve a king | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 06:34 PM |
| 2 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantMost of the butter face results online aren’t even ugly. A mediocre face doesn’t make you ugly. As for the dating apps, it’s supposed to pair you off With those similar to you in looks so you aren’t competing with pretty women. There are plenty of mediocre face fit dudes who would give you a chance | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 02:24 PM |
| 4 | Is money really that important when it comes to relationships?The answer to this question is assortative mating. Look for a girl who also makes min wage and lives at home. Both of you could afford a studio together if the relationship progresses | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 04:59 AM |
| 4 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantEven tall alone puts us as at 14.5% if we use the 6ft standard. Even if you assume a correlation of 1 for the rest my point still stands. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 04:56 AM |
| 1 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantThere is no such thing as an ugly skinny women. Have you ever tried online dating before ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 03:14 AM |
| 2 | Would you date a man who has slept with 100 women?That’s exactly what they want. They want the volcel Chad. And then when they can’t find him they go for the high N Chad | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 02:48 AM |
| 1 | Would you date a man who has slept with 100 women?In practice, women don’t actually ask the body count of their partner so this question isn’t relevant. I find women play the “if I don’t know about it, it never happened” card when the hot player boy comes around and just ignore their past sexual history. Finally, N-count of itself is a flawed metric as it does not account for all sexual activity between partners. You all should remember that women make rules for betas and break rules for alphas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 02:46 AM |
| 1 | Would you date a man who has slept with 100 women?These guys are complaining about too much sex. Meanwhile incels like us would be happy to have even one woman in our entire lives | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 02:42 AM |
| 2 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantHow old are you? You call yourself an “old mentally ill” women in one of your comments. You may have to bite the bullet and go for divorced men , because it’s hard to find first time singles as you get older. On paper 5’ 8.5” and 125lbs is very good | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 02:39 AM |
| 1 | CMV: You can dominate a woman and be masculine without being meanEgalitarian men aren’t type A in nature; they are type B. Type B doesn’t mean a doorman necessarily but definitely more of a low key, non-assertive man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 12:35 AM |
| 3 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantAbout 52% for online dating and 23% or so for the bar/club couples. So 75% in total | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 11:07 PM |
| 2 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantThey are not mutually exclusive. High value good men do exist but as you can imagine such men are rather rare. They are pretty much always locked into LTRs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 11:06 PM |
| 6 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantSMV = sexual market value. It’s not the same for RMV which is relationship market value and considering that many people only have sex inside relationships they end up being related. For RMV beauty has diminishing returns for men past a threshold if the woman isn’t kind or good. That threshold is often just be skinny. I’ve heard so many handsome guys say “I’d rather have a 7 who is kind and nice than a 10 whose a pain”. For the average man you can dock that down 3 or 4 points. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 11:02 PM |
| 6 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantIt depends what you mean by “look for”. A swipe or a cold approach if you think about it is very minimal effort from a guy. So it isn’t surprising that attractive women get approached more or get more likes on the apps. The concept of pursuing though implies that men are turning down offers from average women to date or not even looking at them and only fixated on the hot, promiscuous jerk. I don’t find this to be true in practice. Most men are single and aren’t get any offers from women and whe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 10:55 PM |
| 9 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantPeople who talk like this are usually in relationships already. Being an incel, I can tell you I am valueless. Your value is dictated by the market or those around you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 10:24 PM |
| 5 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantIt means nothing if you are overweight or fat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 10:21 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantIs DietTyrone the same as Tyrone-lite? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 10:18 PM |
| -2 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantI suppose if you have been regularly treated nice by women your whole life and have a girlfriend then it means little to you. It’s a rare occurrence when a non-Chad gets treated nicely and not one that men forget. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 10:17 PM |
| 3 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantBeauty is an ambiguous term composed of many different attributes Weight is the most important attribute by far. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 10:14 PM |
| – | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantSo basically you only care about the high value men. 90% of men are invisible to the women here. And given what you just wrote it’s closer to 95%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 10:13 PM |
| 2 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantThere is no such thing as a “genuine” reason to a hobby or interest group - those are rules you have simply made up. People can go for whatever reason they want to and anyways guys most likely are picking something that sounds somewhat interesting not just throwing darts at a board to pick a group. “Needy and desperate” isn’t necessarily seen as bad if a woman there also needs to enter a relationship. It’s seen as bad among women who don’t need to enter a relationship and don’t really want to en… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 10:11 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantNothing I wrote was absolute: Tall, good career (income amount based on location), fit, social, charming, confident, above average face, AND willing to commit. Except I guess willing to commit but that’s a binary variable | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 10:03 PM |
| 12 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantNiceness won’t push you at all if you’re a man. As you yourself said it’s neutral to women at best | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 10:00 PM |
| 2 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantThere shouldn’t have to be a crazy competition for average people to pair off. Let me remind you that back in the day people married straight out of high school and stuck together for decades or even for life. There might have been a little competition for the top men and women back then but most people went for those similar to themselves and did it quickly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 09:59 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantDid you read high value good man? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 09:56 PM |
| 7 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantThey know what an average good man is like, but they don’t want them and aren’t sexually attracted to them. They only want high value good men Those guys are just the backup betas. If you don’t believe me do you always notice how women seem to find those men right around the wall or after they are a single mom? They also start talking about how they were “young and dumb” and now how they’ve “grown” as a person. The idea women are ignorant of who is and isn’t good until they hit the wall is to ke… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 09:56 PM |
| 2 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantYou’re wrong; Chads plan all the time about getting girls I’ve been close friends with them for years. Many things they do are done with intention to get women attracted to them. Telling guys not to even try and women will come to them is flat out wrong advice and there is not even a smidgeon of truth to what you wrote | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 09:51 PM |
| 5 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantWomen can become good looking by simply losing weight. It’s a changeable attribute | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 09:46 PM |
| 7 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantThe number one attribute men care about is weight It is changeable for almost all women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 09:45 PM |
| 0 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantHas a woman ever been kind to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 09:42 PM |
| 3 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantThat is why for income I said it is location dependent and did not give an absolute number | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 09:41 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantUnemployment rate is not reliable for factoring in the younger age group because they aren’t drawing unemployment benefits or social security yet usually | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 09:37 PM |
| 5 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually want75% of relationships formed today happen online or in the bar/club according to the latest Stanford study. Take out avenues that are no longer accessible such as high school sweetheart, and honestly focusing on nightlife and dating apps / online shouldn’t be a bad strategy in theory. In practice most men are simply too ugly or invisible to use them. It isn’t just about men desperately needing a connection when we push back on advice like “just develop a social circle” that would take years to fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 09:35 PM |
| 8 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantIt’s a selection bias. The top 20% of men who want to commit can do so very easily and usually are locked in to LTRs and very rarely hit the market. The top 20% of men on the market are then far more likely to be player types. With average men you can’t say much either way because average men are invisible in the modern era | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 09:22 PM |
| 0 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantWhen guys talk about broke men here they never factor in the social / financial class of the women involved. Because to incels, love is love and they’re trying to get love from anyone. But when you look into it in more detail, it isn’t a white collar girl going for a deadbeat man with no job. It’s usually a min wage girl going for another min wage guy or similar. Low Self esteem among women relates to not being able to get Chad to commit. There’s a vast, vast gulf of men in between Chad and the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 08:23 PM |
| 0 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantIt is complex because broke for dating preferences is not measured by comparing the average person, it’s measured relatively based on one’s own living standards. To a woman making $10/hr, a guy making $15 is doing well. But objectively both of them are broke. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 08:01 PM |
| 13 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantMy entire post talks about it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 07:56 PM |
| 0 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantAnd living standards are relative as well | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 07:56 PM |
| 7 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantRight now companies are short staffed / working on skeleton crews | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 07:56 PM |
| 14 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantI feel like comments like yours start with the premise that all women are high value queens and thus mediocre men should be invisible. The reality is most women are mediocre as well so a good man is someone similar to them but willing to commit (which women complain about) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 07:54 PM |
| 2 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantAre you saying men care about kindness or women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 07:53 PM |
| 6 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantIncome depends a lot on where you live. I think people immediately think of the “6 figures” standard when they see good career but that is really only a Miami or NYC thing. You can make $50k in the Midwest with a similar purchasing power | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 07:51 PM |
| 1 | CMV: You can dominate a woman and be masculine without being meanEgalitarian personalities are different from dominant, leading, assertive personalities which everyone claims to want here. I think after reading these comments most of the users here wish for a fantasy character rather than an actual person | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 06:37 PM |
| – | Beauty standards are not high.No sane man actually demands an hourglass and fit shape unless he’s really hot | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 05:04 AM |
| – | Beauty standards are not high.6 figures is honestly more a function of where you live. Most of those interviews are done in LA, NYC, and Miami which in any decent area you actually need 6 figures to qualify to rent a studio. So it’s actually not an unreasonable amount. Go to the Midwest or any cheaper city though or even a poorer neighborhood and those income requirements are significantly less. In fact just working 40 hours whatever the pay is is enough for many women in poorer areas. I’ve never seen a woman even fit women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 05:02 AM |
| 1 | The quality of women’s dating app profiles in Europe is far superior to the profiles of women in USA.Because height is emphasized a lot more in the US it isn’t surprising that tall European men do well here. Others have pointed out that UK is culturally much more similar to the US than continental and Eastern Europe | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 04:56 AM |
| 1 | CMV: You can dominate a woman and be masculine without being meanDominant is a spectrum. Even a man being given the power to cold approach for example, is the man dominating in a certain aspect of the romantic process. Yes the woman can say yes or no but the man has far more control on how he can approach and how he sets up the first date, Too many people are viewing “dominant” to mean dominate in every area of a woman’s life but that’s an extreme case which is not being referred to here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 12:34 AM |
| 1 | CMV: You can dominate a woman and be masculine without being meanThis can be handled just by open communication and a simple reminder or request for help Assertiveness implies you have to force people to look out for you, else they wouldn’t | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 10:04 PM |
| 2 | CMV: You can dominate a woman and be masculine without being meanIf a woman would make the relationship unequal if the man isn’t assertive, that isn’t a relationship worth having. Such a woman sounds toxic and self-centered. Egalitarianism should come naturally for both sides | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 09:58 PM |
| 0 | CMV: You can dominate a woman and be masculine without being meanBeing a leader who is assertive to be exactly equal in the relationship? That doesn’t make any sense. Egalitarian men are more chill or go with the flow types. Not masculine and assertive. Masculine and assertive men can make egalitarian decisions but they are still making the decisions | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 09:27 PM |
| 1 | CMV: You can dominate a woman and be masculine without being meanWoman say that want an assertive man who isn’t a pushover. What would he be assertive in then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 09:19 PM |
| 1 | CMV: You can dominate a woman and be masculine without being meanI know nothing about sex. Virgin and don’t watch content with sex in it. Needless to say I have no real response to your comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 09:10 PM |
| -2 | CMV: You can dominate a woman and be masculine without being mean“ If you respect someone as an adult in your relationship you simply cannot dominate them.” This is wrong and this is rehashing common “nice guy” points. The point here is that women want a leader or someone who is assertive in the relationship. So you are in fact respecting them or taking charge provided you use that power in a way that benefits you both. You write it as “carefully controlled sphere” but to me that is just how you’d behave naturally if you love someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 09:08 PM |
| 2 | CMV: You can dominate a woman and be masculine without being meanI honestly think they avoid looking at the healthy medium because it forces them to actually change as a person. I myself am an ex-nice guy but after reading everything women have wrote here I fully get what you all want. It’s different than what society told me growing up, but it’s not unattainable for me to make the switch even if it puts me out of my comfort zone. If you paint the masculine man as an unethical man or a criminal or an abuser, and yourself as good then the guys here can just co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 09:01 PM |
| 2 | CMV: You can dominate a woman and be masculine without being meanAnd your comment is exactly what I am refuting in the OP. Just because women want to defer some of their choices or as you put it “freedoms” toward men, rather than being with a nice guy, doesn’t mean those men who have that power will be mean. Even if women give you the driver’s seat to a relationship it doesn’t automatically make someone mean or make decisions that do not support or help their spouse. Relationships aren’t a business transaction, there is some clear aspects both partners want f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 08:57 PM |
| 6 | CMV: You can dominate a woman and be masculine without being meanLook at todays top discussion https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/17vxtf6/women_are_100_repelled_by_genuinely_kind_men_and/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 05:02 PM |
| 4 | CMV: You can dominate a woman and be masculine without being meanTo refute the millions of posts here that say woman want to be an abusive or neglectful man. Or someone who “negs” her | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 04:55 PM |
| -3 | CMV: You can dominate a woman and be masculine without being meanLeaders dominate. Being an ambiguous guide is the exact opposite of being “assertive” which woman regularly list as a trait they want. Of course there is a spectrum to how much one dominates which I do address. You can dominate without being abusive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 04:53 PM |
| 2 | The real truth about women and nice guysNot if you have that fun with a life partner which many men want | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 04:10 PM |
| 2 | The first step to being with a woman is to make it absolutely known that you don't want to be her friend.My only pushback to this is that the earlier part of this age bracket is college or an educational institution of some sort so it’s kind of obvious that there would be some degree of familiarity in forming friendships. Another point is that men cold approach a lot less these days than in the past. So these stats don’t disprove that cold approach or being with strangers doesn’t work, because nobody really even cold approaches any more | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 01:53 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: If the guys here aren’t cold approaching or giving women attention where is all there attention this forum claims they are getting coming from?Interesting, the ring is always the first thing I look for on a woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/23 06:14 PM |
| 2 | 'Dating is really hard if you are unattractive' isn't what the 'blackpill' is, and ppl should stop pretending it isIt’s too late. Your chance was at the start of college before Chad started making the rounds | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/11/23 02:58 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: If the guys here aren’t cold approaching or giving women attention where is all there attention this forum claims they are getting coming from?If you are clearly wearing a ring the men who approached you aren’t decent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/23 02:10 PM |
| 1 | Statistics, Generalizations and Margin of ErrorYou are mistaken with what estimation is. We are trying to estimate quantities that apply to each individual. In other words, if a 10000 sample study gives an estimate of 66% of women liking cats, that estimate is that the chance one woman selected at random likes cats is 66%. We use the large sample to estimate the probability distribution which applies to EACH observation. | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/11/23 12:59 AM |
| 2 | Statistics, Generalizations and Margin of ErrorI think you should read up on probability distributions The point of large sample studies is to estimate the probability that each INDIVIDUAL has that certain characteristic. That means if you repeatedly draw samples of 1 women, 2/3 of them will like cats. Your argument is not mathematically correct and if it was survey research wouldn’t be a field at all | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/11/23 12:30 AM |
| 2 | Things will never change and I think people need to accept thatHonestly even if you do find a woman who loves you that doesn’t make the blackpill false. It doesn’t make all the studies and research just vanish instantly. It’s annoying to see an ex-incel suddenly find love due to luck and then become all blue-pilled and criticize blackpillers and start looking down on them. I’ll definitely never forget these things nor believe they become false even if I ever escape inceldom | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/11/23 10:47 PM |
| 1 | Minimum height to have a chance at each face ranking.When I go out it feels like almost all men are taller than me. Tbh I think a lot of shorter guys are just checking out of society. The heightpill is too strong | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/11/23 10:37 PM |
| 2 | Why are there so many of you still struggling even though you make good money and have a successful career ?I’ve found the dystopian and classic authors to become increasingly relevant as I’ve gotten older. These guys aren’t just authors but some of the best philosophers that can understand and portray human nature in a way others can’t. I think they became so famous in part because of this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: If the guys here aren’t cold approaching or giving women attention where is all there attention this forum claims they are getting coming from?I don’t live in a place where any of that is readily available. Trying to move to a better location but jobs are competitive and the market isn’t good rn | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 08:06 PM |
| 3 | Why are there so many of you still struggling even though you make good money and have a successful career ?Your advice is true to an extent, but unfortunately even moving back to your own city or moving to another smaller city post college is too late In the case of their own city, most of the women have already settled down by high school or at the maximum community college or similar education. Remember most people aren’t really as focused on education or are the “Cs get degrees” types. So what is occurring in the spare time is relationships and social networks. If guys were to come back, they’d fi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 08:04 PM |
| 3 | I genuinely don't understand when I see women who post on reddit saying they are lonely?Are you buried in your phone a lot when you go outdoors? This is a universal “I don’t want people to talk to me” signal and even men who would want to approach you wouldn’t. | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/11/23 07:55 PM |
| 0 | Minimum height to have a chance at each face ranking.5’8”-5’9” | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/11/23 07:47 PM |
| 6 | I genuinely don't understand when I see women who post on reddit saying they are lonely?Are you fat? Because practically every femcel I’ve talked to online in your situation is fat, and not even close to a good weight. If that’s the case you know what you need to do. It isn’t “social anxiety” holding you back. It’s your weight. Time to hit the gym and lose it | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/11/23 04:54 PM |
| 0 | Minimum height to have a chance at each face ranking.It’s over below 5’ 10” tbh. Shift everything up 3 inches | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/11/23 04:44 PM |
| 5 | Take the passportpillNot really. It’s kind of sad really if the first time you can get into a relationship is at 50 years old | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/11/23 04:40 PM |
| 5 | Take the passportpillYou’re not getting a trad woman if you don’t marry | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/11/23 04:39 PM |
| 1 | Are college educated, stable career men really having dating problems?I have to disagree with the moving out part. Having a place to live on your own is a standard requirement outside of high school | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 04:37 PM |
| 1 | Women indulge in hyper-gamy even in today's age. They say so explicitly78% of women having sex report having sex in a committed relationship only. In the Pew Study, 66% of women in the 18-30 bracket report being in a relationship It’s a substantial difference. Some people argue the difference is caused by women counting situationships and FWB as “committed relationships”. Others say they are going after older men although age gaps in general are rare. Yet others argue women are exaggerating down their sexual experience or not including the entirety of their sexual … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 04:09 PM |
| 9 | Why are there so many of you still struggling even though you make good money and have a successful career ?It isn’t that the guys here are intentionally requiring women with a similar background, that often just so happens to be the women around them. When they are in Harvard, I think it’s obvious but even after that once they move to the city they often work in a prestigious job and thus earn a good salary and live in a quality apartment and neighborhood. Who is working their job or at the office across the street? Those who went to Harvard or other elite universities. Who can afford the apartment t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 04:44 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: If the guys here aren’t cold approaching or giving women attention where is all there attention this forum claims they are getting coming from?So do you think women are regularly getting cold approached irl? How often are you getting approached? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 04:31 AM |
| 3 | Discussion: If the guys here aren’t cold approaching or giving women attention where is all there attention this forum claims they are getting coming from?You can’t approach 100 women in a day. Unless you are just saying “can I have your number?” which is stupid | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 04:26 AM |
| 8 | Discussion: If the guys here aren’t cold approaching or giving women attention where is all there attention this forum claims they are getting coming from?I think you have to consider a few things: 1) Practically everyone here has already graduated college (22+) Once you are out of college developing friend networks is far more difficult. I’m not saying it’s impossible but it’s much harder given the constraints of work time and also the lack of walkability or dense amount of people just looking to have fun or wanting to do something. To that extent a lot of people I know post-college are still relying on their college friend network and in some ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 04:22 AM |
| 23 | Why are there so many of you still struggling even though you make good money and have a successful career ?One important thing you are missing is that as you progress higher in status, the women who are around you are also higher and thus your advantages and benefits are wiped out. This is a serious thing that people like OP tend to miss. For example, let’s say a kid is smart and is studying at Harvard and had a lot of achievements in high school. Practically 99% of people would find a dude like that very impressive and perhaps a lot of women might find him interesting for that alone. But to the girl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 02:16 AM |
| 1 | Women indulge in hyper-gamy even in today's age. They say so explicitlyOnly 38% of men in the 18-24 report having sex within a committed relationship. This also closely parallels the Pew study which states that 37% of men in the ages 18-30 are in a relationship. The GSS study that this article is drawing from has some explanations for the discrepancy including use of escorts, exaggerating body count, men and women having different definitions of relationships (FWB). There is no foolproof explanation but I think it raises rhe question of how many of the guys with N=… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 01:58 AM |
| 3 | Women indulge in hyper-gamy even in today's age. They say so explicitlyIt’s more so a modern thing. I remember the pre social media / Tinder era and people’s notions of “handsome” or “ugly” were based upon who was in their immediate vicinity which would obviously make a standard like 6ft rather ludicrous and certainly negotiable. Girls have generally always wanted “just taller than me” but I watched live how social media and the normalization of long distance / online dating made dating standards far more uniform and less dependent on the immediate environment arou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 01:50 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: If the guys here aren’t cold approaching or giving women attention where is all there attention this forum claims they are getting coming from?What % of men do you think are HVM? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 01:47 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: If the guys here aren’t cold approaching or giving women attention where is all there attention this forum claims they are getting coming from?The top tier of men are a small amount. You believe these men are approaching every single woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 01:45 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: If the guys here aren’t cold approaching or giving women attention where is all there attention this forum claims they are getting coming from?Yes but if you aren’t very handsome, you have to make yourself stand out another way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 01:44 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: If the guys here aren’t cold approaching or giving women attention where is all there attention this forum claims they are getting coming from?By who? Because the men here say it’s risky to do so | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 12:09 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: If the guys here aren’t cold approaching or giving women attention where is all there attention this forum claims they are getting coming from?Well clearly they are doing it without any of the “risks” men talk about here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 12:08 AM |
| 0 | Discussion: If the guys here aren’t cold approaching or giving women attention where is all there attention this forum claims they are getting coming from?I see, so the guys here are online simps. Kind of funny how they talk about being “betabuxxers” when that’s exactly what they are doing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 12:06 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: If the guys here aren’t cold approaching or giving women attention where is all there attention this forum claims they are getting coming from?Her comment doesn’t even make any sense because even the guy at work was a stranger initially. Her comment basically reads “I want to approach the men I find hot, but if men do the same they are bad” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 12:05 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: If the guys here aren’t cold approaching or giving women attention where is all there attention this forum claims they are getting coming from?Blue pillers are definitely approaching but it’s closer to orbiting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 12:00 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: If the guys here aren’t cold approaching or giving women attention where is all there attention this forum claims they are getting coming from?But if the majority of men are doing it successfully it clearly isn’t creepy and dangerous. Again you are arguing a dichotomy here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 11:55 PM |
| -3 | Discussion: If the guys here aren’t cold approaching or giving women attention where is all there attention this forum claims they are getting coming from?So if the majority of men are able to give women attention why are men here against cold approach? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 10:14 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: If the guys here aren’t cold approaching or giving women attention where is all there attention this forum claims they are getting coming from?So if the majority of men are able to give women attention why are men here against cold approach? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 10:14 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: If the guys here aren’t cold approaching or giving women attention where is all there attention this forum claims they are getting coming from?So if the majority of men are able to give women attention why are men here against cold approach? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 10:13 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: If the guys here aren’t cold approaching or giving women attention where is all there attention this forum claims they are getting coming from?Do you think TRP is intentionally giving bad advice (such as don’t cold approach) to keep men single and thus continue to watch content ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 10:12 PM |
| 5 | Discussion: If the guys here aren’t cold approaching or giving women attention where is all there attention this forum claims they are getting coming from?Isn’t the point of TRP to be desired by a woman period, not just Stacy? If hot women are getting a lot of attention what about the “mid” women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: If the guys here aren’t cold approaching or giving women attention where is all there attention this forum claims they are getting coming from?So you think these men aren’t cold approaching women but still simping for them online? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 09:44 PM |
| 0 | Discussion: If the guys here aren’t cold approaching or giving women attention where is all there attention this forum claims they are getting coming from?So you think these men aren’t cold approaching women but still simping for them online? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 09:44 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: If the guys here aren’t cold approaching or giving women attention where is all there attention this forum claims they are getting coming from?So you think these men aren’t cold approaching women but still simping for them online? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 09:44 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: If the guys here aren’t cold approaching or giving women attention where is all there attention this forum claims they are getting coming from?I’ve heard a similar sentiment from men irl though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 09:43 PM |
| 10 | Yo what’s up with all the Sub-7 dudes at the gym? Like they think maybe they can compensate for facial aesthetics with muscle mass/definition 🤦🏻There are a lot of benefits / pleasure gained from working out besides attracting women | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 07:55 PM |
| 4 | Getting women is supposed to come naturally, all this dating, PUA, or being nice and improving your personality are fairly new western concepts +globalization of the dating market ruined everything rantIt’s not quite true husbands never saw their wives because work culture was better 40 years ago | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 01:58 PM |
| 1 | Only tall men have a reasonable chance of being desired in the dating marketThings have changed a lot actually. I’m old enough to remember how dating was before IG/Tinder. | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 01:52 PM |
| 1 | Only tall men have a reasonable chance of being desired in the dating marketUS | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 01:51 PM |
| 1 | I hate that even if you are attractive and a girl is noticeably checking you out, you can’t safely approach her even if it’s done respectfullyIf she was wrong with her mom she might not even be of appropriate age. That to me is the biggest concern here. It’s best to just move on in such cases. | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 03:54 AM |
| 1 | I saw the ultimate Giga Stacy living my dream lifeWell if he was the sugar baby, he’d have to put in similar amounts of work too even if he had Chad genetics | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/11/23 01:41 PM |
| 1 | I saw the ultimate Giga Stacy living my dream lifeWhite upper class Giga Stacy | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/11/23 03:56 AM |
| 1 | I saw the ultimate Giga Stacy living my dream lifeI mean generally at that level they spend hours taking care of their looks and fashion, so there is some work involved | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/11/23 03:55 AM |
| 2 | “Woman’s sexual and youthful prime is in their 30s”When you were in your 20s you all went after the men you were truly sexually attracted to. It was not a stupid decision, it was intentional because you all desired him. Most of the other stuff you wrote about 20s women is just wrong. The idea all of them are trashy to deal with is far from accurate in my own experience and I’m not constructing a fantasy I’ve observed many girls in their 20s | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/11/23 03:52 AM |
| 1 | I saw so many beautiful girls today i'm strugglingAverting eyes is always seen as rude and usually means the person you are avoiding is undesirable in some way. That’s just a social skills thing There is no time where it is perceived as favorable | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/11/23 01:01 AM |
| 3 | “Woman’s sexual and youthful prime is in their 30s”Yes, when one Chad doesn’t work they try another. Until they need to settle or have hit the wall | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/11/23 01:00 AM |
| 1 | I saw so many beautiful girls today i'm strugglingBut you aren’t upset about the average woman with Chad, you’re upset about a Stacy with Chad | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/11/23 12:58 AM |
| 2 | “Woman’s sexual and youthful prime is in their 30s”Do you know how to tell if a woman is attracted to a man? Do you see how she behaves around Chad? | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 11:41 PM |
| 1 | I saw so many beautiful girls today i'm strugglingNobody cares about looking, even women. It’s repeated staring people aren’t thrilled with. Averting your eyes might actually come across as worse. I’ve seen women avert their eyes from me and I usually interpret it as me being ugly and a waste of their space and an eye sore. It’s happened to me a bit and is one of many things that has obliterated my self esteem | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 10:44 PM |
| 1 | Who’s gonna struggle more? A 6’3 guy with a sub5 face or a 5’5 guy with a model-tier face?If the truerateme guide is anything to go by “model tier” is pretty easy to get as a man. Just don’t be fat, perfect symmetry, decent facial hair, and no weird defects | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 10:41 PM |
| 1 | Who’s gonna struggle more? A 6’3 guy with a sub5 face or a 5’5 guy with a model-tier face?Is your current boyfriend 5’ 8”? | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 10:40 PM |
| 1 | How are people bluepilled? It defies simple logic.You’re looking at this through the perspective of one particular girl who might reject a handsome man. That’s not what blackpillers believe. Blackpillers believe that being handsome is all it takes to get into a relationship and is necessary to get into a relationship , not a relationship with every single women. Think of it as a law of large numbers argument. If someone makes it through the AI filter and always gets interviews they are bound to get an offer eventually and for many people it’s s… | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 10:38 PM |
| 1 | I saw so many beautiful girls today i'm strugglingYou can’t handle men being shirtless? Do you never go swimming? What about gym? | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 10:24 PM |
| 0 | I saw so many beautiful girls today i'm strugglinghttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2547088/#:~:text=Human%20females%20are%20more%20sensitive,cold%20but%20not%20heat%20stimulation. Actually the research seems to indicate that women feel both extremes more than men. So if it is too hot they feel it faster and if it is too cold they feel it faster. Woman have a worse metabolism so they can not react to changes in temperature as good as men can | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 10:20 PM |
| 1 | Who’s gonna struggle more? A 6’3 guy with a sub5 face or a 5’5 guy with a model-tier face?5’8” isn’t good enough, nowhere near good enough | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 10:15 PM |
| 2 | It's better to be an incel than a normieIt isn’t but some form of physical intimacy is an important part of relationships | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 10:14 PM |
| 2 | How are people bluepilled? It defies simple logic.Yes, but in a job interview process with 1000 applicants the AI filter eliminates 80% of the candidates based on not having the right key words or exact qualifications. So it is with looks irl. It eliminates 80% of the men before the woman even has a chance to observe or talk to the guy | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 10:11 PM |
| 6 | Still amazed at how true the blackpill isI think it might be shoes honestly. That adds a few inches Also remember 5’9” includes all races. If he’s in a mostly white area the average would be higher | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 10:06 PM |
| 3 | “Woman’s sexual and youthful prime is in their 30s”Chad is a lot more than one man, especially in larger cities | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 09:50 PM |
| 1 | I saw so many beautiful girls today i'm strugglingI’ve only heard people talk about “compensating” online. Irl nobody looks down on short people who workout and have muscle. You do in fact get more respect. It’s just not usually enough to push you into sexual attraction territory. If your short I’d actually argue muscle matters more than tall men just for general respect / safety. | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 09:47 PM |
| 2 | “Woman’s sexual and youthful prime is in their 30s”There are Chads who do commit in their 20s. What the redpill says is that it’s extremely hard to get them given the number of options Chad has and you have to find one of the ones who wants to commit. For most women, it’s strategically better to go for their looksmatch | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 09:44 PM |
| 3 | I saw so many beautiful girls today i'm strugglingBigger arms and abs doesn’t make you more attractive? You’re actually delusional at this point. It definitely makes you more attractive, but whether it’s enough to put you into Chad territory is a different question | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 07:44 PM |
| 1 | How do Blackpillers explain that Jeremy meeks PRE FAME Girlfriend was a 4-5/10?4/10? She’s not below average. | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 07:41 PM |
| 1 | I’ve been pink pilled since I was a teenagerGiven the women you post here, my assumption is that you are overweight. Lose weight and you will be noticed by a lot more men | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 07:38 PM |
| 3 | “Woman’s sexual and youthful prime is in their 30s”So the 20s is the prime of women because that’s when they are interested for love and aren’t pressured to settle yet Thanks for confirming | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 07:33 PM |
| 1 | Is there such thing as luck in dating or is it all based on your accomplishments or hard work?I don’t mind, but most of the classic bluepill advice I’ve already done 100X over. If the advice is something I haven’t worked on before then it can be of value Some of the more redpill stuff like being masculine or assertive is quite interesting though and I know I need to implement it in my own life no matter how uncomfortable it is. I think a lot of men thought that being nice was the same as non-assertive or non-masculine which was a big mistake. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 07:30 PM |
| 3 | “Woman’s sexual and youthful prime is in their 30s”I have seen women with husbands they are sexually attracted to. It’s a completely different world. Stop coping | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 07:24 PM |
| 3 | “Woman’s sexual and youthful prime is in their 30s”Point is women are going after men when they have nothing. This idea they only start looking in their 30s is false | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 07:22 PM |
| 2 | “Woman’s sexual and youthful prime is in their 30s”No it isn’t. It’s possible for example sexual attraction drops for non-Chads but holds steady for Chad, but when you take an average of the population it would still decrease overall | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 07:19 PM |
| 3 | “Woman’s sexual and youthful prime is in their 30s”Nothing in that article studies the difference between Chad and non-Chad | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 05:23 PM |
| -1 | I saw so many beautiful girls today i'm strugglingI am not sure what that saying means | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 05:18 PM |
| 2 | “Woman’s sexual and youthful prime is in their 30s”Post some studies indicating women lose sexual attraction to Chad | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 05:16 PM |
| 6 | “Woman’s sexual and youthful prime is in their 30s”So she’s always sexually attracted to Chad. Dude the whole “few days a month thing” is just betabuxxer cope because that is when women have the highest libidos. If she isn’t sexually attracted to you then she isn’t sexually attracted to you at all. People are the most honest about their inner self at peak emotional states | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 05:15 PM |
| -2 | I saw so many beautiful girls today i'm strugglingYour characterization of the average gym experience and clothing worn was so wildly off that someone was going to call you out on it You are not using the gym for it’s intended purpose and it shows or you just don’t go at all | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 05:10 PM |
| 1 | “Where are all the good men”Just step outside and you will find tons of people holding jobs, living independently and doing all the adult functions in their 20s. This idea you start adulthood at 30 is false and is not the norm. Biologically women are at their sexual and youthful prime in their 20s. This is not a debatable argument and your research is clearly measuring something that is not of value here. Women are not interested in a “series of committed relationships”. This is an outright lie and you know it. Decent Wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 05:02 PM |
| 4 | “Woman’s sexual and youthful prime is in their 30s”They always want Chad. What varies is their SMV which plummets as they get older, and once they hit the wall they have to pivot away from Chad | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 04:50 PM |
| 1 | “Woman’s sexual and youthful prime is in their 30s”No they don’t. This is just a cope from incels. | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 04:48 PM |
| -1 | I saw so many beautiful girls today i'm strugglingThere are only a couple of squat racks in the gym usually and there in one specific side of one specific room If you are doing a full workout you wouldn’t be there much and when you are there the woman aren’t “squatting in your faces” as you described. And if you don’t do squats you have 0 reason to even be in the rack area. This is why I don’t take you seriously because it’s a very small part of the gym experience and they aren’t doing it “in your face” or to entertain you like you wrote. I leg… | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 04:45 PM |
| 5 | “Woman’s sexual and youthful prime is in their 30s”Did you read my post or just the title | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 04:37 PM |
| 7 | “Woman’s sexual and youthful prime is in their 30s”They never find non-Chads sexually attractive. Not in their 20s, 30s, or 40s or even 80s. Never. Chad is the only sexually attractive man ever. | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 04:35 PM |
| 8 | “Woman’s sexual and youthful prime is in their 30s”Well women are chasing Chad even in college and high school when they have nothing. | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 04:35 PM |
| 2 | I saw so many beautiful girls today i'm strugglingHave you actually been to a gym or do you just create a fantasy from IG thots online. Because it sounds much closer to the second than the first | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 04:24 PM |
| 6 | I saw so many beautiful girls today i'm strugglingHow about go for average looking women? You’re no different than your looksmatch whining she can’t get Chad to commit | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 04:20 PM |
| 10 | No, you're not entitled to chadRemember that the 6ft standard eliminates 85% of men and even if Gen Z is somewhat taller at least 75% still | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 04:17 PM |
| 2 | “Where are all the good men”Woman’s sexual and youthful prime is in their 20s. Your argument rests on an entirely flawed premise. Youthful marriages fall apart generally because one partner was never interested in commitment and just wanted sex (hence all the single moms) or financial issues due to reckless spending such as blowing away the rent money on alcohol or drugs. Generally in my observation this tends to be the fault of the man, and hence we dive into the classic “AF/BB” and other redpill principles. In my observa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 04:07 PM |
| 1 | current dating climate in 2023Perhaps in HCOL cities like NYC and LA In LCOL areas single income was doable for the boomers | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 03:51 PM |
| 1 | What do you think the ratio is of the average American woman compared to the average American man on how many times they had sex in their life by age 30? Hookers don't count and if you only had 1 partner each individual time countsEven every day is way too much. Have you ever had a full time job? | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 03:30 PM |
| 1 | What do you think the ratio is of the average American woman compared to the average American man on how many times they had sex in their life by age 30? Hookers don't count and if you only had 1 partner each individual time countsReread your comment again. 5000X is 15 times a week for over 6 years. Most people are not having sex 2-3X a day, people have jobs and school and other things to attend to | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 03:12 PM |
| 1 | Is there such thing as luck in dating or is it all based on your accomplishments or hard work?One of our comments is giving her a reality check and a route to no longer be invisible to good looking nerds. The other comment will keep her invisible to men and remain a femcel. I’ll let you decide which is which and which comment is actually more beneficial for her to listen to | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 03:09 PM |
| 4 | current dating climate in 2023It’s not not interested it’s can’t afford it. Go back and look at the bars you partied in. Good chance they are closed or have been gentrified to serve a richer clientele | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 04:53 AM |
| 7 | current dating climate in 2023I mean kids are pretty expensive in the current economy. And buying a home seems impossible. We have to remember that the boomer family revolves around a single income with a stable job and a pension. It’s much tougher on double income where homes are largely unaffordable, no pension, and work culture is much worse. I know the default argument is going to point to poor nations with a lot of kids but having been to some of those countries the main difference is that there are far more economical … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 04:52 AM |
| 5 | “Where are all the good men”This is true as well. Good men want a girl to build his entire life with including the party phase, the crazy phases of life and have fun together. I want to have memories of me and a girl having fun and spending our prime doing stuff together and the aspect of growing together is important. I don’t want a woman who comes at 35 having had all those fun memories with multiple hot dudes who she knew was out of her league but still chased after and gave away her sexual and youthful prime to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 04:44 AM |
| 1 | “Where are all the good men”We are here but we aren’t 6ft sadly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 04:40 AM |
| 5 | “Where are all the good men”We aren’t talking about the total number of men, just the ones on the dating market still. Hot , good men are pretty much all gone. They do not last long at all. There are tons of Average good men on the market | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 04:38 AM |
| 3 | What do you think the ratio is of the average American woman compared to the average American man on how many times they had sex in their life by age 30? Hookers don't count and if you only had 1 partner each individual time counts5000 times? That makes no sense | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 04:06 AM |
| 6 | Does it seem like women have gotten off the dating apps?“Large city” is not useful. If you are in a more conservative area, expect more weight on cold approach and traditional courting | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/11/23 04:00 AM |
| 1 | Do women only date tall, handsome, fit, white guys (male models)?You normally post very overweight women | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/11/23 09:45 PM |
| 1 | Do women only date tall, handsome, fit, white guys (male models)?She isn’t “decent looking” She could easily be a Stacey | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/11/23 08:15 PM |
| 4 | Say no to betabuxxDisagree some of this is tradition based. | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/11/23 04:20 PM |
| 4 | Say no to betabuxxMy only pushback to this is that there are clear cases where you can tell the woman hasn’t had luck on the dating market, even young women, and this can be for a variety of reasons. Where I am it’s usually due to disability or being very tall. Chad will get to those women eventually but at 20/21 he’s sleeping with the hotter girls in his prime while he’s still in college. It’s possible you get to these less desired girls before Chad does, and in that case if you’re the first, immediate sex would… | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/11/23 04:20 PM |
| 2 | Do women only date tall, handsome, fit, white guys (male models)?“IN THAT SCENARIO HEIGHT DOESN’T MATTER” Guys you’ve read it yourself. Short men aren’t sexually attractive but could be good potential betabuxxers | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/11/23 03:22 PM |
| 1 | Do women only date tall, handsome, fit, white guys (male models)?Those guys don’t know about their gf’s past (or even current) sexual history. | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/11/23 03:19 PM |
| 1 | Do women only date tall, handsome, fit, white guys (male models)?From what I’ve seen irl, if you are an ethnic Chad you do extremely well also. | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/11/23 03:17 PM |
| 1 | Do women only date tall, handsome, fit, white guys (male models)?She is way out of our league lol. You’re just making up stuff now | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/11/23 03:16 PM |
| 5 | Is there such thing as luck in dating or is it all based on your accomplishments or hard work?Being “nerdy” does not give you an excuse to be fat which is changeable. Nerdy girls do get a pass on facial looks compared to the hot Stacy, but not weight It’s time to hit the gym and lose the weight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/23 03:11 PM |
| 6 | Is there such thing as luck in dating or is it all based on your accomplishments or hard work?I’ve been in a lot of nerd circles and to act like Chad doesn’t exist there as well is a bit disingenuous. In fact, my experiences in those circles is what partially brought me to the pills (the other experiences was in religious circles) Chad isn’t the Greek life frat bro anymore but he’s the tall, handsome software engineer or a similar looking gamer. These guys tend to have less muscle than the Chad stereotype and maybe longer hair, but that does not mean they are less desirable. In fact, wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/23 02:22 PM |
| 8 | Most men today don’t date in college, or in generalI don’t think so. There’s a selection bias here where most of us are in STEM or STEM adjacent fields which is the virgin capital. Guys in Greek Life, the arts, business basically all have sex and relationships. Really makes you think if picking a hard or traditional major was even worth it. And I say this as one who has finished school now | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/11/23 01:49 PM |
| 11 | Would you rather live the next 20 years as an Incel with good health, wealth, and chance at an early retirement but you are guaranteed to never find love or be in a relationship or, would you rather live the next 10 years as Chad but low income living and you die of cancer after 10 yearsWeight is changeable , height and face are not | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/11/23 04:34 AM |
| 1 | Most women would be incels if they were born a manYep. People who deny the heightpill need to look at male models. It’s not a coincidence they all are tall | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/11/23 03:15 AM |
| 1 | There's literally nothing to do in life as an ugly short male?They pay pretty well Social skills is not an issue for me | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/11/23 02:27 AM |
| 1 | There's literally nothing to do in life as an ugly short male?Anything in sales or client relations | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 11:31 PM |
| 1 | “Woman” defines incelClothing standards is based on the culture you live in. The shorts in the 60s and 70s were about as short as today actually. The only difference is there wasn’t super tight clothing worn but form fitting clothing. Standing out doesn’t necessarily mean less skin, it could even in fact be more skin as well or something totally out of the norm for the area. Think of seeing a girl in a fancy long dress at McDonald’s or swimwear. Both are generating attention because they deviate from the norm. If yo… | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 11:30 PM |
| 1 | “Woman” defines incelI’m not saying we should adopt full nudity like the African tribes, I’m just saying that culturally speaking you can find clothing across the spectrum that is not worn for a sexual purpose. It isn’t just women wearing less in these hot climates. Guys wear shorter shorts, tank tops or even go shirtless. Saying “men and women have different sexual strategies” is a stupid argument devoid of meaning. You cannot claim men who wear the exact same things women do are innocent but women are guilty. Noth… | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 11:20 PM |
| 1 | There's literally nothing to do in life as an ugly short male?Lot of careers require you to be good looking | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 09:21 PM |
| 20 | Uncomfortable with the fact that your girlfriend used to be a whore? You’re a sexist piece of shit, apparently.“I understand that people change and grow” Peak beta male comment | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 09:20 PM |
| 19 | Q4A:Opinions about provocative dressingMy honest opinion is the following: Incels or men who struggle with dating tend to rationalize the actions of normal people much more through the lens of sex or sexual attraction than actually is the case for those normal people and this is due to these men projecting their sexual struggles onto the population at large. For example in this case your thought process is a girl is wearing a “provocative” dress or clothing to show she’s “available” or get sexual attention without realizing a girl wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/23 09:02 PM |
| 1 | “Woman” defines incelThe “in todays western society” comment is a bit incorrect, because historically during hotter climates native Americans only wore clothing that amounted to a loincloth particularly and in some areas that’s all they wore year round (think places like Pheonix) Warmer areas of the country have only been populated more with the broadened use of AC and the relaxation of fashion standards. Not to mention that average temperatures are rising in the Northern Hemisphere. Men have worn short shorts for a… | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 08:46 PM |
| 1 | “Woman” defines incelShe isn’t dressed conservatively, she’s dressed normal. Your other argument isn’t valid because short shorts have been around since at least the 60s, so the vast majority of people in the US are used to seeing them and do not feel any type of sexual attraction or energy because that has been the baseline of attire for us. If she was to travel to Arabia looking like that, I’m sure the sentiment would be different. Similarly, in some tribes only a loincloth is worn which is far less than what she … | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 08:34 PM |
| 1 | “Woman” defines incelShe just so happens to be wearing short shorts which are quite common for woman to wear. It’s not the rare event you guys make it to be. Again literally step outside (okay maybe not in November but when it’s hotter outside) I wouldn’t call this a “legit talk show” because both her and the person she’s interviewing are dressed way too casually. | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 07:50 PM |
| 1 | “Woman” defines incelWhere I am it can get quite hot in the summer, it is not uncommon to see women wear shorts like that. I’ve seen many men wearing like mid thigh shorts as well although I forgot the name for it now. So it really isn’t unusual for both men and women to wear shorter shorts here. It isn’t for sexual attention it’s because it’s 90 degrees+ Let me ask you another question. If she had been wearing jeans would it have made this video any less interesting? Do you think it wouldn’t have been posted here? … | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 05:23 PM |
| 0 | “Woman” defines incelNo she’s dressed like normal. Again if you want to see a woman wearing shorts , step outside. It’s extremely normal for people to wear, that isn’t generating viewership. The fat woman is what makes this unique because you don’t see women looking like her every day | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 05:17 PM |
| 2 | Men under estimate how insecure women are with their looksSometimes I feel some of these guys only pay attention to thots and e-girls and project that onto all females. Like there are guys here who insist that tattoos are a signal of “availability” | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 02:37 PM |
| 4 | change my mind: If women find you unattractive and repulsed by you, it means that you're a genetically selected loser.Cope | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 02:31 PM |
| 10 | Is this the future of modern liberal society?I think the question is if even Ryan Gosling looks will be an incel one day | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 02:28 PM |
| 2 | Many women want to be loved, but they don't want to love.II disagree with this, a lot of guys know Stacy is out of their league and move on with life. When I see a really hot girl I admire her beauty momentarily but then move on with my life. I’m not doing “everything in my Power” to lock a woman down like that I know they desire and would be far more compatible with a Chad than with me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/23 02:08 PM |
| 1 | Why are wahmen allowed here?If you can’t talk to women how do you expect to date them | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 02:05 PM |
| 2 | Men under estimate how insecure women are with their looksNo they can’t do that that’s considering “objectifying!” While they simultaneously have no problem fantasizing over Chad | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 02:02 PM |
| 1 | Men under estimate how insecure women are with their looksNo, it isn’t; woman actually do like talking about things they have actively worked on related to their body. Granted your average girl is not into gym culture or has probably even seen a gym so such compliments should be only given if you are certain the person works out a lot | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 02:01 PM |
| 1 | Men under estimate how insecure women are with their looksNo we are insecure because we are incels; not attractive enough to get a romantic partner AT ALL. | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 01:59 PM |
| 1 | Men under estimate how insecure women are with their looksPhysical attraction =/= sexual attraction I don’t know how many times I have to repeat this online. You all only think about sex both men and women. Very sad to see | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 01:58 PM |
| 2 | Men under estimate how insecure women are with their looksI’m confused why this is getting downvoted. Not all yoga pants are the super tight ones that are inappropriate, and if you are talking about freedom of movement it isn’t one of those. Are these guys even familiar with gym clothes? | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 01:56 PM |
| 22 | Most women would be incels if they were born a manI’d probably be a model (in 2023) if I was a female, since you all need is just an average face and not to be fat But because I’m a male, I’m an incel. | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 01:48 PM |
| 5 | “Woman” defines incelI’ve asked several woman what “dad bod” means and Jason Momoa is their go to example. I got it from them. | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 02:14 AM |
| 2 | “Woman” defines incelJust because we don’t doesn’t mean we don’t know people who would. Like I’ve seen plenty of fat women even with decent looking men. And that alone proves she has a higher SMV because most of us having a negative SMV. Meaning we’d have to pay for any intimacy. | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 02:12 AM |
| 2 | “Woman” defines incelThat article doesn’t define what “fat” or “husky” means. When woman talk about a dad bod they mean Jason Momoa. Not the male equivalent of OP | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 02:10 AM |
| 5 | “Woman” defines incelThat article doesn’t define what “fat” or “husky” means. When woman talk about a dad bod they mean Jason Momoa. Not the male equivalent of OP | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 02:09 AM |
| 3 | “Woman” defines incelDude, women wear shorts all the time. The idea that that is drawing an audience here is silly. You can literally just step outside and see women wearing shorts. Also, notice all her other attire is very casual which suggests the shorts fit in. | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 02:06 AM |
| 1 | “Women decide which men are attractive, not straight men”They don’t. Those men would be incels if they were average height and not famous | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/23 11:56 PM |
| 2 | “Women decide which men are attractive, not straight men”I’m convinced this was done to lower wages for models. Think about it if you have a 10/10 GigaStacy or 9/10 Stacy there are so few of those around that models would have to get paid a ton. Now it’s legitimately any girl who isn’t wildly obese who can be a model so you can pay them a few hundred per shoot max | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/23 11:54 PM |
| 3 | The Right Place At The Right TimeRight place, right time is the same as just getting super lucky | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/23 11:38 PM |
| 5 | Men under estimate how insecure women are with their looksWoman are insecure because they can’t get GigaChad to commit Men are insecure because they are incels who have been treated as second class or garbage for their looks | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/23 11:36 PM |
| 1 | Men under estimate how insecure women are with their looksI disagree with the body compliment. People do actually put effort into working out so that can be a real compliment if you notice something | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/23 11:36 PM |
| 5 | “Woman” defines incelShow her legs? Dude she’s wearing shorts…not a big deal | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/23 11:30 PM |
| 14 | “Woman” defines incelLooks = personality to a lot of people Halo / horn effect | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/23 11:26 PM |
| 7 | “Woman” defines incelYou’d be surprised . https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brit-moves-marry-one-worlds-23996402.amp Mind you that article was from 2 years ago so modern era dating Pretty much every supersized woman has a husband and often times they are decent looking. | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/23 11:25 PM |
| 30 | “Woman” defines incelAnd because she’s female Her SMV mogs the hottest male here | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/23 09:48 PM |
| 2 | “Woman” defines incelThat’s oddly accurate lol. That’s the last time I’ve had Mountain Dew | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/23 09:47 PM |
| 1 | 3-4 inches height is the difference between Chad and incelIf we’re being honest, a lot of celebrities are not impressive looking. Hollywood seems to be more about who you know rather than your own merit | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/23 02:24 PM |
| 1 | Men don’t actually like “good” womenKeep dreaming buddy, keep dreaming | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 01:59 PM |
| 2 | Why is there no #TradHusband movement?Most likely those women aren’t even “trad” but much closer to the “born again virgins” who are trying to use new labels to boost their worth among the true conservative men. They only do this of course when it’s time to settle down, not in their prime . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 01:51 PM |
| 0 | Going to ropemax bc I’m 5’10I would say you should just try cold approaching before giving up. You have nothing to lose at this point | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/23 03:19 AM |
| 1 | Going to ropemax bc I’m 5’105’ 10” is a gray area. You have to be somewhat handsome and fit at this height | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/23 03:18 AM |
| 1 | Can this face be mogged?Idk in my experience short women are the most brutal when it comes to height at least where I am. They are obsessed with tall men. I had many of them as friends and they always thirsted over 6ft+ men and have completely obliterated any positive feelings I could have had regarding height. The stuff about Disney world is the pre social media / OLD era. I was alive back then and the height standard was simply taller than the girl if even that. But things started to change about 8 years ago and I sa… | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/23 03:05 AM |
| 1 | Can this face be mogged?Why 5’9”? Why not 6’? | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/23 02:44 AM |
| 1 | Can this face be mogged?Both is ideal, face if you have to pick one | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/23 02:30 AM |
| 12 | Dating lingo/phrases that piss you off and are just plain wrong?“Just be yourself bro!” I already am myself? Who do these people think I am? | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/23 02:28 AM |
| 1 | Cold approach is one of the worst methods of getting women.This isn’t true. Have you ever spoken to strangers? You’re supposed to steer the conversation based on what is being said not keep using generic questions | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 01:09 AM |
| 5 | All The Dating Advice I've Given This YearTruthfully you should have split this up into about 15 different threads. This post is wayyy too long to get any sort of engagement. No one has so much time on their hands to debate or address every point here. I’ll just pick #5 for now. Many incels recognize the usefulness of nichemaxxing, but the problem with nichemaxxing is you need and interest you actually like that has a small enough following to be a niche but also has a favorable gender ratio. Many incels fail on the “favorable gender ra… | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/23 01:02 AM |
| 3 | I’m convinced online dating doesn’t work for the majority of peopleYes, going on a date counts | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 11:57 PM |
| 3 | I’m convinced online dating doesn’t work for the majority of peopleSo then you have gotten a Chad before | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 11:42 PM |
| 2 | I’m convinced online dating doesn’t work for the majority of peopleSo you are saying handsome men approach you irl but you can’t find any handsome men on the apps? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 11:12 PM |
| 3 | How unattractive men pull beautiful women 9/10 timesAny specific signs you see in this video? I wasn’t able to tell either way. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 11:11 PM |
| 2 | Men don’t actually like “good” womenLol I struck a nerve with that comment because it’s true | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 10:30 PM |
| 1 | Men don’t actually like “good” womenThe percentage of woman who are skinny and fit (not too anorexic or fat) is not high. It isn’t just desperate men who have that as their attractive standard. The “men with options” argument is not a good argument because we can take this to the extremes. Obviously Henry Cavill has higher standards but is he the average man (truly average)? How do you define sufficiently many options so that a man isn’t desperate ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 10:29 PM |
| 1 | Contrary to what reddit says , I think it's mainly women who want families and kids, men primarily want sex above allHow are people affording kids in this current economy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 10:23 PM |
| 3 | I’m convinced online dating doesn’t work for the majority of peopleIf you ask “where is Chad” I have to ask What is your weight? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 10:19 PM |
| 0 | Guys talk about being judged for being virgins but how do women know?Do you even understand what romance is or seeking a life partner? You act like this is some sort of game | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 10:12 PM |
| 1 | Just leave them aloneGiven how expensive dating apps are, you basically get paid hundreds if not thousands to cold approach women in person. For that price, I’ll do it | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 08:32 PM |
| 5 | Can this face be mogged?Post your picture for an ideal figure for a man | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 07:03 PM |
| 3 | Discussion: Why is being “clingy” seen as a bad thing for men and womenYou would give up all your friends and family to be with your partner? What if she treats you bad or abusive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 05:32 PM |
| 5 | Men don’t actually like “good” womenThe men who value good women are not sexually attractive to those women. Part of the problem is society emasculated and blue pilled us to oblivion. The church did not help at all either giving blue pilled sermon after blue pilled sermon We are learning though ; I personally have learned a lot reading these forums. Very sad about my wasted past but hoping to change | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 05:30 PM |
| 2 | Men don’t actually like “good” womenAnd both of those types of people have the mental aptitude of children with 0 maturity or understanding of tradeoffs which describes a lot of people well here. There are sane people here. We just aren’t as loud or vocal | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 05:27 PM |
| 8 | Guys talk about being judged for being virgins but how do women know?Past sexual history is one of the most important things to be honest on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Can this face be mogged?Look at Oussama Guessom https://images.app.goo.gl/Nf2c8iDzFrTUWYNu5 He actually mogs that face | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 04:02 PM |
| 3 | Should mods here stop approving ropeorcopes comments?I mean it is over for a guy who’s 5ft. I’m not sure what else you can say | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 03:47 PM |
| 1 | Men don’t actually like “good” womenThis is largely in reference to dating and expectations. For example if a girl has had ONS/ casual sex before or sex with a Chad very early on, it motivates average men to no longer wait or take things slow with women. I am one of those guys actually. If I knew the girl was a virgin I’d be willing to wait a very long time for sexual intimacy but if I knew she had casual sex before I’m not waiting (note this is purely theoretical as I don’t see myself dating casual sex types). An additional topic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 02:49 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Why is being “clingy” seen as a bad thing for men and womenThe thing is though because insanely jealous or toxic is not a prerequisite to be clingy. You are trying to establish the relationship “always into you” = toxic and jealous and I’m not sure if that’s the case. People can be toxic and jealous and non-clingy as well | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 02:39 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: Why is being “clingy” seen as a bad thing for men and womenTo me this is actually the biggest flaw with the game portion of the redpill. If that’s all you have to sell to a woman and don’t have good looks or a shared lifestyle, you have to continuously maintain game for the rest of your life, which will probably lead to disaster. Similar flaw for nice guy bluepillers | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 02:35 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Why is being “clingy” seen as a bad thing for men and womenThis is your life partner though. It’s kind of assumed you two are going to be quite close. After all eventually you all will live together, sleep in the same bed , etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 02:20 PM |
| 3 | Discussion: Why is being “clingy” seen as a bad thing for men and womenI think you might be missing the issue here that the gf gets jealous when the guy does go out with his friends. I definitely see the life partner part appealing but to me if you are getting jealous or think I’m cheating just when I casually go out with male friends that would probably end the relationship. Trust is extremely important in a relationship. There are healthy occurrences of wanting to come along (such as when alcohol or drugs is involved), but that is moreso to look out for each othe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 02:17 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: Why is being “clingy” seen as a bad thing for men and womenIsn’t there always going to be inequalities in a relationship? It seems like a fantasy to expect someone with the exact degree of clinginess as you if we argue this is a spectrum | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 02:14 PM |
| 0 | Discussion: Why is being “clingy” seen as a bad thing for men and womenI’m a bit confused why you equate clingy women with very jealous women. Can you explain? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 02:13 PM |
| 1 | Wanting a partner who is simply not overweight or ugly is not entitlement, yet most men are told that it isAt least in the boomer era when monogamy was the rule, assortative mating was the norm. Dating isn’t a random process | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 02:10 PM |
| -1 | Men don’t actually like “good” womenThe women commenting “only desperate men” have no idea what it actually means to be skinny and fit. Skinny, fit girls are in fact attractive for men. The problem is you have a lot of women who are fat but then think they are “curvy” or “thicc” or average weight women who still think they are skinny or fit when in reality “average” in the US is 170, 5’ 4”. I see a lot of delusion in general especially in American women on this topic. When you show what fit means next they’ll tell you it’s unhealt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 02:02 PM |
| 1 | Men don’t actually like “good” womenPeople who abuse or treat others poorly do it because of the power it gives them or because they are selfish. You are making an incorrect assumption that men treat their wives bad because they aren’t sexually attracted to them. This is rarely the case because as long as the woman remains somewhat skinny or not grossly fat, the sexual attraction remains. People age, but in practice it’s not bad outside of the weight issue. I don’t doubt to an extent there is an AF/BB equivalent for women, but thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 01:58 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: Why is being “clingy” seen as a bad thing for men and womenI encourage you to reply to the commenters and debate them / have them expand on their positions more | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 03:38 AM |
| 3 | Discussion: Why is being “clingy” seen as a bad thing for men and womenClingy women are definitely seen as a negative from what I have seen irl | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 03:34 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: Why is being “clingy” seen as a bad thing for men and womenSo is clingy used to define only the furthest extreme of wanting you 24/7 and demanding more? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 03:32 AM |
| 11 | Exclusive video on cuck Ropeordope and volcel stacy simp Kukkle1111 😨Notice how neither poster actively denied this lol. Hit a bit too close to home for both of them | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 02:12 AM |
| 1 | I’m starting to realize that Chad is way way less common than top 20%Those rappers don’t have beer bellies | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 01:50 AM |
| 2 | Q4M - would you date a woman who has limited themselves to the same grooming/self care regimen you have?Armpit hair is a negative. But If they are getting a gf even with the negative then they don’t need to shave I guess | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 01:36 AM |
| 5 | I fucking swear dating as a woman is super easy modeI do know one legitimate femcel. She wasn’t overweight but she had a plain Jane look and spent her prime focused on her career. When she started to look for a partner after establishing a good job it was too late for her. She was already late 20s by then which is pretty late in a small conservative city. I’ve not seen her in a few years but she was 40 or so when I last saw her. Granted she was really pre online dating / social media , so I don’t think she’d struggle now. It does happen but it’s … | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 01:19 AM |
| 2 | Q4M - would you date a woman who has limited themselves to the same grooming/self care regimen you have?Fair enough , assuming those guys have girlfriends | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 01:12 AM |
| 1 | Hookup victims whine about being single in their 30sShe said she had one serious boyfriend, not one boyfriend. And you are forgetting FWB which isn’t technically casual sex | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 01:11 AM |
| 4 | if Chad lower his standards , sub 5 are in troubleChad often times commit with Beckie’s already. It’s not uncommon | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 01:03 AM |
| 5 | Hookup victims whine about being single in their 30sShe said somewhere else she’s had sex a few times. Classic case of a girl pretending to be more conservative then she is | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 12:14 AM |
| 2 | Q4M - would you date a woman who has limited themselves to the same grooming/self care regimen you have?You’d be surprised. I’ve gotten into some lengthy debates on this before with women here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 12:10 AM |
| 4 | Q4M - would you date a woman who has limited themselves to the same grooming/self care regimen you have?Well they should start shaving | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 12:09 AM |
| 3 | She's traditional with a twist. The twist? She's not traditional.A lot of trad women have tattoos. Pretty common in working class | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 06/11/23 12:07 AM |
| 1 | Standard Single Mom Profile #164,898You’d be surprised how many desperate conservative men are out there. Most people aren’t strong enough to remain alone for life or go MGTOW. Most don’t want to or can’t engage in passport bro. Most men cave in eventually | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 06/11/23 12:03 AM |
| 1 | Most men are willingly turning into simps since it's kind of celebrated now to worship womenHow long will it be until most simps defend open relationships or hall passes? | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 11:58 PM |
| 8 | Why do incels bother going ER to get back at women/society? Society will never process any “message” sent out by a homicidal ugly autist.I mean people use this extremes argument for just about anything. People will label the average Democrat by Antifa rioters , Republicans by Jan 6 , etc. It’s exhausting and not worth engaging with people like that | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 11:56 PM |
| 0 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areYou can’t because your body self regulates the amount you need relative to your actions. This is why if you do physical labor you would become more hungry than the baseline | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 11:52 PM |
| 8 | Q4M - would you date a woman who has limited themselves to the same grooming/self care regimen you have?The ones I see wearing tanks or shirtless shave. If you wear shirts all the time you can trim | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 11:50 PM |
| 1 | Q4M - would you date a woman who has limited themselves to the same grooming/self care regimen you have?If you’re a woman reading this - please shave your leg and arm hair. Use an electric razor which will make your life much easier but please do it. No amount of online arguing or justification is going to change this standard and you’re just begging to become a femcel. In the real world every woman does it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 11:44 PM |
| 1 | Q4M - would you date a woman who has limited themselves to the same grooming/self care regimen you have?Kind of surprised no men shave their legs here. I do but with a guard which leaves some hair remaining. I very rarely clean shave leg hair but have done it before. Woman like body or facial hair that is properly groomed and trimmed not bushy. Bushy is gross. Always | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 11:41 PM |
| 11 | Q4M - would you date a woman who has limited themselves to the same grooming/self care regimen you have?Armpit hair is gross For men as well | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 11:40 PM |
| 4 | Ukranian women are leaving their husbands/boyfriends while they're going to warLol simp the moment you realize it’s a female commenting. Modern Men have no standards, no spine, no integrity, everything is a joke | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 11:31 PM |
| 1 | I’m starting to realize that Chad is way way less common than top 20%I live at home due to high rent. I wish the solution was simple but it isn’t | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 10:57 PM |
| 1 | Can you be a selective incel?People can write any preferences they want online but it doesn’t mean they are actually getting sexual interest even from the super overweight women or whoever they speak against. This is especially true for men who generally have to lead and show interest except for hot men; thus you can easily have men who are incels who have “preferences” but it doesn’t translate into rejecting women the same way femcels do Most people write their preferences online, but truth be told probably could not even … | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 10:54 PM |
| 12 | Why do incels bother going ER to get back at women/society? Society will never process any “message” sent out by a homicidal ugly autist.I don’t know any incels irl who actually agree with ER. He’s a very far extreme end of incel and should not be used to describe the average incel | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 10:33 PM |
| 1 | Contrary to popular belief, short woman are judgemental when it comes to height .Reread my post. I covered this in the SEA section. It’s based on environment. | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 10:31 PM |
| 6 | The simps/white knights and female users here are just as pathetic as the "incels"Somehow these users are more active than the socially outcast incels. I don’t even understand how it is possible, but it is. | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 09:23 PM |
| 1 | Men want what they would never allow to womenYeah and in a conservative area where there’s a strong obsession for height | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 09:19 PM |
| 0 | I’m starting to realize that Chad is way way less common than top 20%I didn’t say there were zero, I said they are few available women in my age bracket. I’m not dating single mom 35-40 year olds or grandmothers when I’m in my 20s. Younger people tend to aggregate in more urban areas and larger cities which I am not currently in. The young people here are mostly married. I do come across single available women but it’s rare. So next time I should be more confident and talk to them, but I’m just saying I can’t use your quantity strategy. At the moment I don’t go t… | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 09:17 PM |
| 3 | Contrary to popular belief, short woman are judgemental when it comes to height .It isn’t a fetish. I think it’s more of an ability to empathize on both sides being neglected due to height. Tall women have the lowest desirability among all women if we filter by height and significantly less than their shorter counterparts on the dating apps. Tall women have actually been much nicer to me than shorter women, but I didn’t meet any genuinely tall women until college and even then only a few times. | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 09:07 PM |
| 0 | I’m starting to realize that Chad is way way less common than top 20%That aren’t very many single women where I live now. I’m in a smaller city with mostly boomers and middle aged. Housing costs have soared here post Covid chasing the younger folk out. Those who I see are almost always couples. I’m too old and my chances are long gone. Never got any interest in school and my uni experience wasn’t very good due to a combination of factors (lived far away, Covid, etc.) | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 07:33 PM |
| 1 | Men want what they would never allow to womenThe woman here want taller men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 07:27 PM |
| 2 | Men want what they would never allow to womenSoulCycle filters for a certain class and type of women. It’s not worth going unless you have the interest and the money to be with such women. I’m used to a much lower class of people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 02:09 PM |
| 1 | I’m starting to realize that Chad is way way less common than top 20%I just find it interesting how every single one of your posts is fixated on talking about attractive white women, when that is pretty far from what incels even want | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 02:04 PM |
| 2 | "im sexually attracted to you the way you are and i dont need you to change yourself"I know , I’m an incel but I’ve at least gotten “How are you” from woman who are strangers. I think not even being acknowledged as a human even when doing stuff like checking out groceries must be hard | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 02:01 PM |
| 1 | It’s telling that even girls well past their prime think they can afford to be insanely selectiveThey aren’t getting what they want ; commitment from Chad. They can get sex but not commitment | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 01:53 PM |
| 1 | It’s telling that even girls well past their prime think they can afford to be insanely selectiveThat’s the red pill , not the black pill. I actually made a black pill thread on this recently. https://www.reddit.com/r/AllPillDebate/comments/17h7vj1/if_you_cant_get_women_when_you_are_young_you_wont/ | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 01:52 PM |
| 11 | amount of chads is growing.It’s not so much that the number of Chads are increasing it’s that the number of non-Chads not participating in society is increasing. Why bother struggling and working hard at a “career” when you know the chance of a loving wife or family is 0 or close to 0? And every step of the way you will struggle being seen as the “privileged” gender. Enrollment in college continues to go down for males and participation in career jobs. And it’s going to continue to decrease. | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 01:45 PM |
| 2 | amount of chads is growing.It’s still 6’ in America at least | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 01:42 PM |
| 3 | I’m starting to realize that Chad is way way less common than top 20%What makes you think incels are only interested in attractive women? I usually just don’t pay attention to the hot women or speak to them because they are way out of my league | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 01:40 PM |
| 1 | Do you resent women?I think men tend to care less about what other men think, whereas woman are socialized to be more agreeable | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 01:39 PM |
| 2 | Billionaire tech guru Howie Liu(32) marries sports reporter Kristin Leahy (37).Chad or Chang is about sexual desire. If you have to lead with your wallet to get a relationship you aren’t a Chang. He’s definitely not decent looking and he would be an incel. I know many incels who are even somewhat better looking than him that are Asian but they have an average job, not a billionaire. I also know Changs irl and they are tall and handsome. | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 01:07 PM |
| 1 | I’m starting to realize that Chad is way way less common than top 20%Isn’t it pretty close for both genders overall? Women are more obese and men more overweight so I thought it evens out | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 01:01 PM |
| 3 | I’m starting to realize that Chad is way way less common than top 20%It isn’t. When I was in school, girls would fawn after and look at photos of men from schools four hours away from our location, and talk about how our school had poor options. Mind you they were looking at the top men from other schools, not even the average men there. So despite being a very sociable guy that women hung out with and not ashamed to be around with, my looks were not good enough because I wasn’t competing with just men in my school but from any school in the broader geographical … | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 12:57 PM |
| 1 | I’m starting to realize that Chad is way way less common than top 20%Height is a big deal here man. If I was 3-4 inches taller I’d be guaranteed a non-incel now. | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 12:52 PM |
| 1 | I’m starting to realize that Chad is way way less common than top 20%I’m short though and not rich | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 12:51 PM |
| 2 | I’m starting to realize that Chad is way way less common than top 20%Football players are not the norm. If you look at them shirtless they are usually a bit fat. Most football players cut the weight once they finish their career because it is not healthy long term. | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 12:51 PM |
| 12 | Men want what they would never allow to womenWomen are in traditional gyms, they just dominate the cardio and abs sides from what I have seen, whereas men dominate the weight lifting side. Often times this can be separate rooms or floors so you don’t see the other side if you aren’t looking for it. Also the cycling classes you mention are a good point, stuff like SoulCycle is pretty popular among women, whereas you wouldn’t catch most men anywhere near those places. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 12:47 PM |
| 1 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areYes, I’ve been to college and my job in college was actually extremely close to Greek life sorority and fraternity houses so many of my coworkers were frat dudes and sorority girls. Most sorority girls are of a healthy / skinny weight but they aren’t super fit bodies. There’s a subset of them (and other non sorority girls) who gym regularly and are insanely hot and model tier girls. But by no means are all sorority girls gym girls or vice versa. Note that I’m not claiming they are ugly at all, a… | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 02:45 AM |
| 3 | Do you resent women?I wish women were much more honest about what they sexually prefer, and I do resent the ones that tell lies or give generic advice such as “work on your personality bro!” when deep down inside they know how they are sexually attracted to. A lot of us incels wouldn’t be so bitter if we were given honest answers from day one rather than wasting a part of our life doing everything the bluepill said to do before finding the truth. I also resent the ones who engage in dual mating strategy because it … | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 02:27 AM |
| 1 | I’m starting to realize that Chad is way way less common than top 20%He’s not hot. His face is … not good. And he’s skinny. He’s definitely not a Chad, but he’ll get plenty of romantic interest due to his height which a lot of woman like | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 02:21 AM |
| 4 | I’m starting to realize that Chad is way way less common than top 20%That makes sense also. Overweight / obese men aren’t even considered at all. Of those in the pool, only the top 20% can be Chad | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 02:19 AM |
| 2 | I’m starting to realize that Chad is way way less common than top 20%Makes sense. I’m probably htn which is prime betabuxxer material which checks out with what u/SilentFroggy mentioned. So I’m still an incel but could go the beta provider route later in life. I don’t want to though | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 02:17 AM |
| 5 | I’m starting to realize that Chad is way way less common than top 20%Beer belly rapper is not slaying with women. This is just a cope to make you feel better about your weight | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 02:15 AM |
| 1 | I’m starting to realize that Chad is way way less common than top 20%And they aren’t necessarily sexually attracted to. That actually makes sense because I’ve had a lot of female friends over the years who were not embarrassed to be seen with me or talk to me. They were a lot more comfortable talking to me then with uglier or fatter dudes. But it didn’t translate to romance or sexual desire unlike with the Chads Tbh htn is probably prime betabuxxer material | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 02:12 AM |
| 1 | Most of you wouldn't want a relationship with women if you actually spent time around themYou will lose the muscles. It’s the constant amount of testosterone that maintains it. This is also why the bodybuilders end up with heart attacks and various medical conditions because when they juice themselves and take TRT it isn’t a one-time supplement just to form the muscles and then cut. It’s taken periodically over a lifetime and the damage done to the body is gradual but accumulates over time and catches up with them. In the case of TRT it causes other organs of the body to enlarge as w… | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 02:07 AM |
| 1 | How bad is dating scene for men around 5' 9" ~ 5' 10" ( avg height ) ? Is it 100% over ?Like give a stock photo of it. | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 02:04 AM |
| 2 | Another reminder why most modern women are on another playing field when in comes to dating.OP seems to be deleted but hopefully the comments provide context https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/15gl9ko/born_again_virgins_and_hoe_phases/ Edit: You commented on that thread | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 01:15 AM |
| 1 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areIdk I used to watch the western movie reruns that used to come on the air and the main character was a Chad. Think guys like Charlton Heston or Michael Landon in their prime. Only difference was the 6ft standard did not exist back then. | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 01:12 AM |
| 1 | How bad is dating scene for men around 5' 9" ~ 5' 10" ( avg height ) ? Is it 100% over ?Define “plain face” | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 01:08 AM |
| 5 | Billionaire tech guru Howie Liu(32) marries sports reporter Kristin Leahy (37).He’s short and he isn’t good looking. Money doesn’t make you a Chad. If you think he looks like a Chang you are coping hard. He’d be an incel if he didn’t have money | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 12:58 AM |
| 2 | Billionaire tech guru Howie Liu(32) marries sports reporter Kristin Leahy (37).The wall is about commitment from Chad. Howie Liu has money, but he isn’t Chad | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 11:26 PM |
| 2 | An easy question: if the sexualisation of women is bad why the sexualisation of gay men is acceptedIt’s not even just gay men it’s straight men as well. Plenty of Chads mention getting sexually harassed or accosted by women and these are guys already in LTRs who don’t want that attention | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 11:24 PM |
| 1 | Most of you wouldn't want a relationship with women if you actually spent time around themTestosterone isn’t just a sex hormone it controls other parts of the body. For example, it helps with being broad shouldered or building muscle so reducing testosterone would make me look uglier | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 11:23 PM |
| 1 | Most of you wouldn't want a relationship with women if you actually spent time around themWomen have a higher sex drive then men but only for Chad | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 11:22 PM |
| 1 | How bad is dating scene for men around 5' 9" ~ 5' 10" ( avg height ) ? Is it 100% over ?Nah even the “good girls” want Chad. And they’ll break their religious rules or chastity for Chad | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 11:19 PM |
| 3 | Women's attraction is entirely based on availabilityFraternities usually have tall men. They filter on looks | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 11:15 PM |
| 1 | Another reminder why most modern women are on another playing field when in comes to dating.Nah, ever heard about “born again virgin”? Woman suddenly become all religious when it’s time to find a stable man. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 11:06 PM |
| 1 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areYou are only focusing on the top sorority girls | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 11:04 PM |
| 1 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areI said old movies | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 11:04 PM |
| 2 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areNot if you are short | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 11:03 PM |
| 2 | if what is said about all women being bisexual is true, other women are the second choice for women after Chad not menNo it’s Chad, woman | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 11:02 PM |
| 1 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areYep, I can confirm that but it doesn’t lead to sexual attraction | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 10:30 PM |
| 0 | I’m starting to realize that Chad is way way less common than top 20%I’m broad shouldered and muscular an even then it’s tough to actually hit overweight BMI. Not impossible of course, but realistically it’s a small % of guys. Even if you drop 73% to 65% the reasoning still plays out | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 10:28 PM |
| 8 | Being a good person has nothing to do with how much a man is able to attract womenClassic Reddit “Low class women = bad” “Upper middle class women = good” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 09:34 PM |
| 1 | Being a good person has nothing to do with how much a man is able to attract womenThat’s because marriage is more culturally enforced or necessary in upper class environments. Additionally, there are a lot of single Moms in lower class environments so they are actually much easier to get it’s just that the men don’t commit or marry them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 09:33 PM |
| 6 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areThe male Chad stereotype has been in effect this entire time. Literally just watch any old black and white movie and you can see who is still being casted. Woman haven’t relaxed their standards for Chad and are in fact even now more picky on stuff such as height (6ft standard). | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 09:15 PM |
| 3 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areThat’s only in college the girls are fit. Once they leave and join careers or become adults, and their metabolism kicks in most become overweight or unattractive. The only girls who remain in shape are specifically the gym obsessed ones which are a minority, even among sorority girls | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 09:12 PM |
| 3 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areGymmaxxxing isn’t enough if you aren’t tall. Women are lenient in weight if the man is tall. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 09:11 PM |
| 1 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areMcDonald’s isn’t the only available food. Even in very cheap / rundown grocery stores there’s a deli section with freshly cooked meals | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 09:09 PM |
| 1 | “You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take” My dude if your shot/miss ratio is 0/50, it’s time to put the ball up and go home.A lot of guys would like to move but getting a visa can be difficult | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 08:22 PM |
| 2 | Another reminder why most modern women are on another playing field when in comes to dating.Those stats are not particularly useful because they do not tell the entire story. In my school the girls who never had any romantic success with men suffered from the following: 1) Lived way out in the boonies and thus did not participate in extracurricular activities / could not date due to distance 2) Extremely anti-social or introverted to the point men passed them over 3) Suffered from a physical disability Those who lived in the school zone of average sociability lost their virginity even … | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Another reminder why most modern women are on another playing field when in comes to dating.Keep in mind that “sexual intercourse” only refers to penetrative sex (the kind that can make her pregnant). It is quite possible for a woman to be extremely promiscuous but still a “virgin” because she hasn’t had penetrative sex yet. You deal with a lot of these stupid loopholes and exceptions in the religious setting where women try to lock down the pure Christian male betabuxxer | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 08:00 PM |
| 6 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areYou can have large thighs and glutes and still be healthy weight. In fact you can even be fit with those traits. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 07:51 PM |
| 4 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areBut 1000 calories of McDonald’s won’t be filling at all which is how people get fat. Fast food and junk food is chemically designed to have you consume more and at unhealthy levels | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 07:49 PM |
| 3 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areSame as a guy. I felt much physically weaker being underweight. And being overweight I looked like trash. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 07:47 PM |
| 5 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areCope | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 07:37 PM |
| 0 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areDidn’t you say you were coming to the US first? See if you can direct transfer out to another country from Canada. Don’t even waste 5 years here. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 07:19 PM |
| 10 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areNo, the shame thing is real and it occurs between men as well As a man I have been shamed both for working out and for dressing nice by other men. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 07:17 PM |
| 3 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areDoesn’t matter dude. Even if she has a cute face, she’s still fat and should want to become pleasing for her partner just as she demands out of him. Chad has a good face, good height AND fit body | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 07:14 PM |
| 1 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areIn the context of dating and relationships, America is probably the most individualistic culture in the world. People behave incredibly transactional and similar to late stage capitalism in their relationships and friendships. If you are of value to someone at a cheaper price, you are their “friend” but the moment your value goes down the friendship is over. I lost so many friends when I had some health issues and being a smart guy I’d lose friends immediately after the semester ended while they… | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 07:10 PM |
| 2 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areMen are more overweight, but women are more obese Mind you most bodybuilder men are overweight because muscle weighs more than fat | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 06:18 PM |
| 1 | When women and men describe Chad , are they describing the almost " perfect " human beingIt’s not sexual attraction but we do physically admire hot men | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 06:12 PM |
| 6 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areAll the men are not fat, not in the younger generation | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 06:07 PM |
| 7 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areAmerican men are the most feminine men in the entire world and have been completely emasculated. Many of these guys will even defend woman making out with Chad at the bar or even occasional cheating saying “sex is just an act” or “I’m not insecure!” It’s so easy to get commitment and princess treatment from an average man these days that their value is $0 on the dating market. Women know these guys will be around and commit no matter what. If you can’t get a woman based on your looks alone, it’s… | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 06:01 PM |
| 10 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areIt really doesn’t. This is just an excuse. We have so many gyms and fitness programs and healthy food available. The resources are in abundance for anyone who truly cares | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 05:56 PM |
| 3 | Women's attraction is entirely based on availabilityWar would kill off the incels and the outcast men of society. I’d rather not have my life cut short in Chad’s conquests. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 05:53 PM |
| 2 | Women's attraction is entirely based on availabilityWell if you have other options chances are you are higher up the list anyways. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 05:52 PM |
| 2 | Women's attraction is entirely based on availabilityPassport bros won’t struggle because the social media we have isn’t available or widely used in other countries. A lot of content is only country specific as well due to issues such as taxes paid on revenue earned. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 05:51 PM |
| 4 | Women's attraction is entirely based on availabilityThey don’t though they can’t actually get commitment from Chad; yet that’s all that makes them happy. Men are different because being with a model is a bonus for us but we can sexually desire a lot more women. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 05:49 PM |
| 2 | How do you come to terms with the fact we have another 50 years to live like this?Cope | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 05:47 PM |
| 2 | How do you come to terms with the fact we have another 50 years to live like this?I actually am. But continue on with your assumptions | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 05:47 PM |
| 7 | Women's attraction is entirely based on availabilityYep. And all of this is backed by research as well. The 6ft standard in the US is actually 6’ 2” in the Nordics. It also explains why average height men do well in SEA where the guys are short. Women’s standards aren’t objective they are relative to those around them, constantly selecting for the top males | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 05:45 PM |
| 1 | Dating apps and the internet should have been a blessing rather than a curse.They aren’t femcels. That operation spot girl isn’t a virgin, she has had a fair bit of sex before including casual sex. She has said as such before | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 05:41 PM |
| 3 | "im sexually attracted to you the way you are and i dont need you to change yourself"You haven’t heard even that from a stranger? I’m sorry man. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 05:39 PM |
| 2 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areWomen are more obese than men. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 05:34 PM |
| 9 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areAh, here we go again with the shaming… | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 05:33 PM |
| 19 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areThe thing that I never get is when I see overweight women with Chad and Tyrone. How does not having an attractive partner not motivate you to be better and make yourself desirable for them? How can you look at a tall muscular man and not feel bad about yourself and want you to have as much appeal for him as he does for you? It feels like American women are increasingly becoming one sided. They can go watch Chad entertainers at the nightclub and demand a very fit, tall man as a spouse and objecti… | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 05:31 PM |
| 5 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areI mean I actually know a passport bro irl. But he did it long before even the internet was a thing. He’s very short with an average ish face but he got a thin feminine Asian girl and brought her back to the states. They’ve been married for decades now and she’s still thin even in her 50s and they had one son together as well. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 05:26 PM |
| 12 | It's insane how unattractive and overweight American women areI’m an American male and my weight is fine. You just need to make conscious choices like not eating fast food too much , greasy food / junk food, etc | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 05:24 PM |
| 2 | How do you come to terms with the fact we have another 50 years to live like this?To even be potentially desired by women, you have to cross the threshold for looks. The biggest component of that is height and I don’t make the cut for height. Stuff like personality and commitment are meaningless coming from an average man, because women can receive commitment from such men whenever they want. There are so many stories of single moms who went back to the nice guy from high school after having fun with multiple Chads and he takes her with open arms. Not to mention there are so … | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 05:12 PM |
| 5 | How do you come to terms with the fact we have another 50 years to live like this?I have nothing to offer women. And Hubris made a good point. Even if one had a super niche attraction and found me hot, we are statistically never going to meet. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 03:47 AM |
| 2 | Personality only matters when selecting a betabuxxer not for true attraction or desireCelebrities aren’t the same because you haven’t been in an intimate relationship with them | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 03:43 AM |
| 3 | Personality only matters when selecting a betabuxxer not for true attraction or desireBecause for men being good looking is largely not being overweight. Our looks threshold is so easy to cross that most of our filtering is done on personality. Whereas woman’s looks threshold is genetic in nature and very difficult to cross, and since few cross it women desire whoever can cross their threshold. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 03:42 AM |
| 1 | Personality only matters when selecting a betabuxxer not for true attraction or desireThe average man isn’t inherently better necessarily, but there are way more good average men sitting on the market. Good Chads get married super fast and usually sit in long term relationships, practically all the Chads left are player boys in the adult dating market Sexual fantasies aren’t “surface level” sex and love are closely tied together. People feel love and attraction to those they have sex with at the level of opioids which is backed by research due to the release of OxyContin. To answ… | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 03:36 AM |
| 4 | This guy worked his whole life to get the wahmen of his dreams. What a time to be alive. Love is still real!Oh so too skinny ? | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 09:51 PM |
| 2 | Personality only matters when selecting a betabuxxer not for true attraction or desireMy body is pretty decent but I fail in height which is a HUGE requirement for women these days. I’m sociable and can talk to strangers easily, so social skills isn’t my issue. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 09:50 PM |
| 1 | How do you come to terms with the fact we have another 50 years to live like this?No I am not but I have high testosterone naturally and it isn’t going anywhere soon it appears | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 09:48 PM |
| 6 | Sexually, shaving is the only expectation that are on women yet somehow they made it an opressionI haven’t met a woman irl who doesn’t shave. The femcels whining about it online are nowhere near close to the norm | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 09:32 PM |
| 0 | How bad is dating scene for men around 5' 9" ~ 5' 10" ( avg height ) ? Is it 100% over ?Doesn’t matter, height is the first hurdle. You either meet it or you don’t. The threshold for a young woman in the modern era to desire you is close to 6ft give or take an inch or so. If a man can’t cross that hurdle be cannot he sexually desired no matter how hot he is or how charming he is. He might be very popular and have a lot of friends but it will not mean he has any sexual success. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 09:27 PM |
| 0 | How do you come to terms with the fact we have another 50 years to live like this?You are just good at coping I think | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 09:20 PM |
| 5 | Personality only matters when selecting a betabuxxer not for true attraction or desireKeep coping. You’re not as handsome as you think you are. The woman you lost never found you hot | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 09:19 PM |
| 3 | Personality only matters when selecting a betabuxxer not for true attraction or desireOnly if the woman is confident she’ll get another Chad to commit | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 09:18 PM |
| 4 | Personality only matters when selecting a betabuxxer not for true attraction or desireNo I can’t I’m too ugly. Those women sexually desire a man who has a good personality AND is a Chad. Personality cannot compensate for poor looks, ever. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 09:17 PM |
| 0 | How bad is dating scene for men around 5' 9" ~ 5' 10" ( avg height ) ? Is it 100% over ?Height is by far the most important variable in determining a man’s sexual attractiveness. If you don’t have a desirable height, nothing else matters for a man | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 09:03 PM |
| 1 | How bad is dating scene for men around 5' 9" ~ 5' 10" ( avg height ) ? Is it 100% over ?An average height pretty boy looks like a high schooler: Women want to date men not boys | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 09:01 PM |
| 3 | This guy worked his whole life to get the wahmen of his dreams. What a time to be alive. Love is still real!You could always just lose weight. But I guess different people value different things | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 08:55 PM |
| 9 | Most of you wouldn't want a relationship with women if you actually spent time around themSex isn’t the only way to love but it is the strongest form of physical intimacy which is key for a relationship | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 08:51 PM |
| 0 | How do you come to terms with the fact we have another 50 years to live like this?What evidence do you have that male libido goes down significantly? | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 08:50 PM |
| 1 | How do you come to terms with the fact we have another 50 years to live like this?You engage in pump and dump? Why? Do you not care about the ethics of that ? | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 08:49 PM |
| 2 | Personality only matters when selecting a betabuxxer not for true attraction or desireSo you admit those men do get women, not just all women. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 08:47 PM |
| 3 | Personality only matters when selecting a betabuxxer not for true attraction or desireI’m saying only Stacy’s are picky about personality because they can be and still get a Chad. For the rest of women who don’t have the luxury of both they are more sexually interested in sleeping with a Chad even if he’s bad over a good man whose average. Either way, only Chad is sought after | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 08:46 PM |
| 1 | Personality only matters when selecting a betabuxxer not for true attraction or desireThose who don’t participate in hookup culture can still show sexual interest. They do everything in terms of flirting up until suggesting sex which is where they stop. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 08:45 PM |
| 1 | Am I going crazy or is every young couple the same build?I see the same thing also. 100% Height >>>>>> Face | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 08:21 PM |
| 0 | It's not autism (for "self diagnosed" subfive guys)High functioning autism is difficult to diagnose. It’s only mid or low which is easy, but those people aren’t going to be here. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 08:08 PM |
| 2 | Personality only matters when selecting a betabuxxer not for true attraction or desireThat has to be an extreme exception | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 08:04 PM |
| 2 | Personality only matters when selecting a betabuxxer not for true attraction or desireI’m not good looking. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 08:04 PM |
| 1 | Personality only matters when selecting a betabuxxer not for true attraction or desireCasual sex is the barometer of sexual attraction for those who partake in it. Even for those who don’t you see a lot of similar signals of interest. Someone who one would enter a relationship with but not have causal sex with is not sexually desired. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 08:03 PM |
| 1 | Personality only matters when selecting a betabuxxer not for true attraction or desirePoor and lower class women is the majority of people. Only 35% of people have a Bachelor’s degree in the US | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 08:01 PM |
| 4 | How do you come to terms with the fact we have another 50 years to live like this?Retire early for what exactly? Most people aren’t even in their prime at 50 anyways and have many medical issues. Also, with the rapidly rising cost of living its much harder to save today. The time to enjoy life is today. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Pills RankedFacepill is cope. Height >>> face. Women can’t be sexually attracted to short men because they look like children (saying this as a short guy). Even the broad shouldered ones look like middle or high school football players. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Personality only matters when selecting a betabuxxer not for true attraction or desireLooking at the women around me. They aren’t the highest class of women, but abusive Chad still gets love. Plenty of abusers / criminals even murderers had tons of women love them. Whereas incels have nothing. Take the Meekspill. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 06:41 PM |
| 2 | Personality only matters when selecting a betabuxxer not for true attraction or desireIf he’s hot enough he will be seen as a good guy Halo effect | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 06:32 PM |
| 3 | Personality only matters when selecting a betabuxxer not for true attraction or desireThe only women who care about personality are the ones who can get Chad AND a good man. Chad alone is more desirable than good man alone. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 06:11 PM |
| 1 | People blame the fish pic, his personality, etc. but the reality is being average for a man isn’t enough anymore.Definitely not. We can’t even agree on whether height or face matters more here let alone more finer points. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 06:08 PM |
| 6 | How bad is dating scene for men around 5' 9" ~ 5' 10" ( avg height ) ? Is it 100% over ?They date as betabuxxers. They are not desired | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 06:02 PM |
| 4 | Personality only matters when selecting a betabuxxer not for true attraction or desireA lot of women, yes. Stacey’s are the exception because they can pick up Chads easily for commitment. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 05:44 PM |
| 1 | How bad is dating scene for men around 5' 9" ~ 5' 10" ( avg height ) ? Is it 100% over ?Being tall is attractive , it’s not just a status thing | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 05:43 PM |
| 10 | Educationmaxxing is not for weak menOnly for betabuxxing , not for FWB or true sexual attraction | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 03:49 PM |
| 2 | There is no such thing as "settling". You never settled.Then that means you all have friends who are Stacy’s who could actually get Chad | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 03:48 PM |
| 0 | There is no such thing as "settling". You never settled.Splitting the bills is a financial incentive to get into a relationship | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 03:40 PM |
| 24 | Don't know what to say on this 👀👀👀Lol, it’s actually impressive how far bluepillers go to deny reality | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 02:07 PM |
| 0 | People blame the fish pic, his personality, etc. but the reality is being average for a man isn’t enough anymore.2nd photo is fine. Being too skinny for women as a man is unattractive as well | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 01:28 PM |
| 3 | Women are only interested in top menNo, blackpill is entirely looks based | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 01:17 PM |
| 3 | Women are only interested in top menI think he’s taking some drugs regularly. I saw that as well | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 01:16 PM |
| 1 | The “Higher-Testosterone Men Like Thicker Women” meme is based on literally nothingPlenty of women workout who aren’t thick. Most women do not workout with the intention of building muscle. So they do mostly different exercises then men do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 01:15 PM |
| 1 | The “Higher-Testosterone Men Like Thicker Women” meme is based on literally nothingDad bod is Jason Momoa. Women have admitted as such. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 01:13 PM |
| 1 | The “Higher-Testosterone Men Like Thicker Women” meme is based on literally nothingDad bod just means Jason Momoa. Guys like him have been considered attractive since forever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 01:13 PM |
| 2 | There is no such thing as "settling". You never settled.Women still settle due to the social status, financial reasons, wanting to have kids / needing a man to support kids she already has , etc. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 01:11 PM |
| 1 | People blame the fish pic, his personality, etc. but the reality is being average for a man isn’t enough anymore.23 | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 03:55 AM |
| 1 | People blame the fish pic, his personality, etc. but the reality is being average for a man isn’t enough anymore.I think working the job in entertainment is honestly the best and only viable suggestion for someone in my shoes starting from scratch in this economy with 0 social network. I have thrown a few apps at entertainment and venues before for tech but with little luck, but I also wasn’t being aggressive in my search. I think i need to be much more aggressive with it and transition out. The easiest jobs to get are the people who program and do tech support for slot machines but I can’t do that knowing… | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 02:05 AM |
| 4 | No Interest In Women AnymoreDo people actually do that? Wow… | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 01:43 AM |
| 2 | No Interest In Women AnymoreThen they wouldn’t be giving OP attention | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 01:42 AM |
| 2 | The problem with blue pill is it is so one sided to the level that it turns into blackpill with womenIt’s a shame people lose their fun side when they grow up. I don’t understand why adults morph into some hollow autonomous person. In the corporate world in particular you see this a lot. I’m not going to “perpetuate the cycle” because I know what sort of person I am. I don’t think you understand that Chad simply had to exist to keep the love going but he abandoned the woman and his own son to continue to pump and dump others. Young woman aren’t paranoid around hot men. Hot men gain instant trus… | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 12:18 AM |
| 1 | Never blame yourself for being an inclWouldn’t have spent as much time focusing on education and spent more time just having fun on social experiences. I fell into the “get a good education and a job wife and kids will fall into place” trap. If I knew about the blackpill I wouldn’t have wasted so much time on studying and school. I am 100% convinced the blackpill gets darker as you get older so the only chance of marriage for average men is college or high school. After that it’s over. Also blackpill carries into getting good job / … | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 11:49 PM |
| 0 | The guy that serves me in shop everyday looks like a downer and has a wife n kidsThis isn’t a cope. Look at this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/AllPillDebate/comments/1731ymt/volcel_if_you_wouldnt/ She clearly has Down’s but is objectively good looking | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 11:41 PM |
| 16 | " Men are lazy in romance " coming from the gender who puts no efforts for men is just wildNo amount of effort or betabuxxing can create sexual attraction. Do not let women keep stringing you along. Chads just have to exist and be a functional adult to cause desire. Not jump through 1000 hoops. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 11:31 PM |
| 3 | The problem with blue pill is it is so one sided to the level that it turns into blackpill with womenPoint is those women are never the same. I live in an area with single moms and they legitimately never return to the old, fun, sexy flirty girl and the poor betabuxxer that ends up with a girl who is basically asexual and uses him for his resources. The best ones maintain their looks but even then the personality is completely different. The youthful lust and love is completely gone. This is where the whole AF/BB comes in because Chad got a much better woman for free in her prime, while the bet… | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 11:20 PM |
| 5 | The problem with blue pill is it is so one sided to the level that it turns into blackpill with womenNo the pink pill is directed towards females. But their self-improvement is to get high tier Chad to commit lol not to find a single partner | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 10:24 PM |
| 3 | The problem with blue pill is it is so one sided to the level that it turns into blackpill with womenThis is just regular good men paying for the sins of Chad | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 10:23 PM |
| 3 | People blame the fish pic, his personality, etc. but the reality is being average for a man isn’t enough anymore.You’re aware the military has pretty strict physical criteria to get in correct? Even normal people wouldn’t make the cut let alone overweight dudes. You have to be peak physical fitness to get in. I’m sure though if you’re a single woman the dating scene must be amazing for you lol. Bunch of military Chads everywhere you go | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 10:17 PM |
| 1 | People blame the fish pic, his personality, etc. but the reality is being average for a man isn’t enough anymore.My main issue with work is my education is in tech where the gender ratio is awful. It’s honestly probably as bad as the apps. Sometimes I wish I studied something in the arts or media to interact with more women lol but that ship has sailed. I’m not in college anymore and Covid ruined most of my in-person experience plus I was a commuter due to money. As for bars / clubs a lot of people used to meet at third places or in venues downtown but Covid has significantly changed that. Rent has explode… | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 09:59 PM |
| 1 | People blame the fish pic, his personality, etc. but the reality is being average for a man isn’t enough anymore.If you aren’t having trouble with women, you probably are Chad | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 09:34 PM |
| 2 | People blame the fish pic, his personality, etc. but the reality is being average for a man isn’t enough anymore.The average male is unattractive to women these days. Chad only | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 09:34 PM |
| 2 | People blame the fish pic, his personality, etc. but the reality is being average for a man isn’t enough anymore.It is not easier for men to be in shape, American women just make a bunch of excuses. Look at any other country in the world for a comparison. Muscle doesn’t just come out of thin air. I agree he is overweight but there are plenty of women at his weight or fatter or slightly skinnier who are in his league. He shouldn’t be getting 1 chat per 50,000 right swipes. That’s actually insane. And 1 date per 1 million swipes. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 09:28 PM |
| 1 | People blame the fish pic, his personality, etc. but the reality is being average for a man isn’t enough anymore.Yes woman, don’t want average anymore. That’s the point I mention in the title It used to be different, but now things have changed | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 09:26 PM |
| 1 | Geomaxxing triggers western cucks and feminzis so hardThey wouldn’t because of the language barrier. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 09:22 PM |
| 1 | Geomaxxing triggers western cucks and feminzis so hardThose women are in their prime and stay in shape with Chad around. Just wait and watch what happens once they marry a normie or betabuxxer | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 09:20 PM |
| 4 | When women and men describe Chad , are they describing the almost " perfect " human beingHigh tier Normies are fading with The era of online dating and social media. There used to be a lot more of them in the past. It’s the same as the shrinking middle class in late stage capitalism. You have only those who have everything and those who have nothing. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 09:18 PM |
| 1 | When women and men describe Chad , are they describing the almost " perfect " human beingWell then that means women are born looking for similar things | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 09:16 PM |
| 0 | No Interest In Women AnymoreThis is just stupid. Many incels would like to get attention from Women. No you aren’t “Chad” but I’m pretty sure you aren’t just going after “Stacey” either, people healthily compromise on their goals. So long as she is actually sexually attracted to you and not using you as a betabuxxer you’re good | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 09:14 PM |
| 1 | People blame the fish pic, his personality, etc. but the reality is being average for a man isn’t enough anymore.Yes, because his only real setback is weight right now. Look at his second pic. He looks pretty good when he isn’t overweight. Most of the comments from women here that are negative are pointing to his weight also. That’s the main thing holding him back which is why he’s average. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 08:52 PM |
| 3 | People blame the fish pic, his personality, etc. but the reality is being average for a man isn’t enough anymore.Idk I man I showed his pictures to people irl and people find him average or even above average. The women here seem to have a split opinion on his looks. I think people are kind of nitpicking here (eyebrow length really? ) because I mentioned his stats. If you saw a guy like this irl you wouldn’t blink and keep walking. He’d be an NPC. That’s what average is. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 08:49 PM |
| 1 | People blame the fish pic, his personality, etc. but the reality is being average for a man isn’t enough anymore.So where exactly would be a good place for a man to find women these days if the apps are so bad? I know there’s the bar but that isn’t exactly better in terms of gender ratios. Where else? | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 08:46 PM |
| 2 | People blame the fish pic, his personality, etc. but the reality is being average for a man isn’t enough anymore.He has all average traits. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 08:43 PM |
| 6 | People blame the fish pic, his personality, etc. but the reality is being average for a man isn’t enough anymore.This is the point I’ve been trying to make. If we viewed his form but as a female there are plenty like him. In fact I’m sure some of the guys here would be calling her cute and fat in the right places. He actually is average but the starting point for men these days is top 20% which is why people are saying he’s undateably ugly | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 08:41 PM |
| 3 | People blame the fish pic, his personality, etc. but the reality is being average for a man isn’t enough anymore.No it isn’t. 5/10 is the median of all appearances not the halfway mark in terms of looks between a 0/10 and 10/10. Looks aren’t linear. It’s gets harder and harder to move up the ladder. A jump from 5/10 to 6/10 is way easier than a jump from 8/10 to 9/10. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 08:38 PM |
| 1 | People blame the fish pic, his personality, etc. but the reality is being average for a man isn’t enough anymore.The average person in America is overweight. He should be able to get females equivalent to him | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 08:15 PM |
| 3 | People blame the fish pic, his personality, etc. but the reality is being average for a man isn’t enough anymore.No he actually is pretty average objectively. He’s average in everything though | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 08:14 PM |
| 3 | People blame the fish pic, his personality, etc. but the reality is being average for a man isn’t enough anymore.The average person is not physically appealing, that’s what average means | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 08:12 PM |
| 6 | People blame the fish pic, his personality, etc. but the reality is being average for a man isn’t enough anymore.Statistically average is 5/10. That’s what 5/10 even means. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 08:09 PM |
| 4 | People blame the fish pic, his personality, etc. but the reality is being average for a man isn’t enough anymore.Or you’re just nitpicking on things that don’t matter. Nobody is dinging you for wearing glasses. His nose and ears are fine. Like, I feel like you are coming to this opinion because you know of his Tinder stats. I see guys like this out in the wild a fair bit. They aren’t handsome, or attractive but they are average. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 08:07 PM |
| 1 | No need to try if you’re hotWe need a minimum length for the videos here. 8 seconds is way too short to understand what is even happening. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Geomaxxing triggers western cucks and feminzis so hardThis is what I’ve been told by a lot of people who live there No dude, blackpill isn’t prevalent everywhere. America isn’t the center of the universe. Plenty of other normal countries still out there | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 06:08 PM |
| 16 | People blame the fish pic, his personality, etc. but the reality is being average for a man isn’t enough anymore.No it’s broken for normies also. Personality detector: Chad = good , normie = bad | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 05:12 PM |
| 5 | People blame the fish pic, his personality, etc. but the reality is being average for a man isn’t enough anymore.I’m not sure at 1 million rejections he’s going to have any luck in person. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 05:12 PM |
| 10 | People blame the fish pic, his personality, etc. but the reality is being average for a man isn’t enough anymore.Look at the second pic. Average is not attractive, it’s average. That’s what average means. He’s average height, average weight , average face , average job, average hobbies. Everything about him is average Something is wrong if he can’t get any women. His female equivalent would have tons of options. Maybe not GigaChad but she’d get plenty of average men. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 05:06 PM |
| 5 | People blame the fish pic, his personality, etc. but the reality is being average for a man isn’t enough anymore.I agree he could improve himself some but I’m not sure how much it will help. His second pic is probably the prime version of him and it clearly wasn’t enough to generate interest | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 04:52 PM |
| 3 | People blame the fish pic, his personality, etc. but the reality is being average for a man isn’t enough anymore.I’m guessing he used a bot with staggered hit times for a lot of his swipes. No way he did all of that manually with a full time job. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 04:47 PM |
| 14 | People blame the fish pic, his personality, etc. but the reality is being average for a man isn’t enough anymore.He’s not below average. He looks exactly like your average blue collar worker. Yes he’s a little heavy but he should be getting way more than a .02% match rate. Think of all the really overweight women or average weight women out there. He’s not even being selective , he swiped right on almost every single profile he came across. Guys like him that are 40 or 50 years old are all married ; this is just a product of Chad only in modern times. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 04:41 PM |
| 1 | I’m the type that blackpillers claim would never get laid, but I’ve had casual sex with multiple women that are super hot through dating appsNo, being tall in and of itself is good looking because it is associated with masculinity which girls thirst after. Similar to why some muscle is seen as attractive also. The status thing is really only for dating men shorter than the girl herself. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 04:03 PM |
| 9 | Geomaxxing triggers western cucks and feminzis so hardThey changed their tune to one of shaming as they don’t want men like that to leave. 1/10 incels can go but not the 7/10 guys | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 03:56 PM |
| 1 | I’m the type that blackpillers claim would never get laid, but I’ve had casual sex with multiple women that are super hot through dating appsBecause it isn’t average height here. Conservative areas are usually just white and black people who tend to be taller. There are plenty of Chads and Tyrone’s here. Only a few Asians here and the kids move elsewhere for college (and never return). Although despite being short the girls were still thirsting after 6ft+ Asians. Their parents come here married (met abroad). Not too many Hispanics here and usually the same scenario as above with the Asians I’m 5’ 8” - 5’9” and when I go out most youn… | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 03:26 PM |
| 4 | The guy that serves me in shop everyday looks like a downer and has a wife n kidsNot all people with Down’s are ugly. You can be a Chad with Down’s assuming you are just a little slow, which if he serves you in a shop I assume he is just a little slow. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 03:20 PM |
| 2 | Never show weakness in front of women:Sensitive girls can be quite pretty. I’ve known a few myself. Their social media presence though is usually non existent | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 03:17 PM |
| 2 | Never show weakness in front of women:Men are not jerks to sensitive girls. They just don’t orbit them as much | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 03:16 PM |
| 9 | Never show weakness in front of women:Because it isn’t. Women say one thing but then choose men who exhibit completely opposite traits. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 03:13 PM |
| 2 | Geomaxxing triggers western cucks and feminzis so hardYes, but they are less picky on height. So gymmax and self-improvement stuff works better | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 03:07 PM |
| 4 | Geomaxxing triggers western cucks and feminzis so hardThey probably look old to you but aren’t as old as you think. Weight makes people look old. Also the culture of being fat makes men unhappy. Even if you marry a thin girl unless she’s really in to taking care of herself (which basically makes her a Stacy in the US) you’re going to end up with an overweight wife in a decade | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 03:07 PM |
| 5 | Geomaxxing triggers western cucks and feminzis so hardWhere are you? Tons of younger obese women where I live. They end up with 6ft males here too. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 02:53 PM |
| 4 | Geomaxxing triggers western cucks and feminzis so hardIt is estimated about 4.95M women and children left the country. The population of Ukraine was 43.8M before the war started. No matter how you analyze this only a small percent of married women or those in relationships left, abandoned their hubby or bf and are sleeping with Chad in Germany or the UK. The vast majority stayed in Ukraine and of those who left many left to protect the kids. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 02:50 PM |
| 4 | Geomaxxing triggers western cucks and feminzis so hardEven if you only find white women attractive, continental and Eastern Europe is a much better option. Only difficulty is the language barrier but you will have to learn to some level in most countries anyways. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 02:33 PM |
| 17 | Geomaxxing triggers western cucks and feminzis so hardIt’s a fake concern. Women want the beta backup Billies if Chad doesn’t work out. When women realize the OP posting would be a potential betabuxxer and not a complete outcast (he mentioned he did get interest from women here), they go crazy and resort to all types of shaming to keep men here. I remember on PPD when geomaxxing used to be brought up women used to comment stuff Iike “Goodbye incel, you won’t be missed!” in a mocking tone. But then one time a guy made a thread on geomaxxing and desc… | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 02:27 PM |
| 1 | I’m the type that blackpillers claim would never get laid, but I’ve had casual sex with multiple women that are super hot through dating appsInteresting, do you mind sharing a rough region of where you are in the US? Where I am girls are height crazy, and you would in fact be an incel here at 5’ 9”, without question. But I live in a more conservative area which studies show is positively correlated with pickiness in height. I would guess a good group of the “6ft or bust” incels live in an area with a similar culture to mine where that 100% holds true. Some people are telling me to move but idk. One girl said I’d do much better elsewh… | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 01:21 PM |
| 2 | I’m the type that blackpillers claim would never get laid, but I’ve had casual sex with multiple women that are super hot through dating appsNo it isn’t. Where I am 5’ 9” is practically a guaranteed incel. Whereas legitimately ugly 6ft guys are getting into relationships left end right and getting married. But then again, I live in a more conservative area which according to studies correlated with the pickiness in height | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 01:18 PM |
| 3 | Never blame yourself for being an inclI’m not certain I agree with this. Had I known looks mattered were all that really mattered in life, I would have done things much differently | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 01:16 PM |
| 1 | Heightpill is the strongest pill.There is no such thing as a 5’7” Chad. That’s an oxymoron | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 03:50 AM |
| 1 | How do you explain interabled relationships?Liking someone very tall is generally not seen as a fetish because it is quite common for women. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 03:47 AM |
| 3 | I’m the type that blackpillers claim would never get laid, but I’ve had casual sex with multiple women that are super hot through dating appsWhat is your height? Being Asian is not relevant - racepill is way overblown here | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 03:34 AM |
| 2 | "women put more effort into their appearance than men"Women’s fitness goals are different. They aren’t generally looking to become bodybuilders and develop muscle they usually want to tone or get a flatter core. The exercises women and men do are usually different. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 03:23 AM |
| 3 | Would John Nash (with muscles) be Chad enough to get women despite his defiency of charisma due to too high of intelligence?Yes, but the type of women he’d pull are different. He’d be a Chad in the academic circles pulling PhD and Masters chicks or others who work in education. Probably would get some undergrad sorority girls as well when he was still in school. Chad typically exists within some construct or environment. You can have Chad of academia as well | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 05:02 PM |
| 0 | JFL. Chad in imagination just fvcks better than her real husband.No this is the norm for betabuxxers that still have a sex life. Rest is in dead bedrooms | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 04:59 PM |
| 1 | JFL. Chad in imagination just fvcks better than her real husband.It’s threads like these where you get to see the blackpill indirectly | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 04:58 PM |
| 1 | JFL. Chad in imagination just fvcks better than her real husband.Social construct is one of the primary factors that leads to betabuxx | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 04:57 PM |
| 3 | JFL. Chad in imagination just fvcks better than her real husband.Man when I think I know the full extent of the blackpill a new thread pops up and it just keeps getting worse and worse. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 04:56 PM |
| 0 | An idea to help men get more datesI think you get shadow banned on the apps if you do that. There was someone with 1 million swipes on r/Tinder but practically 0 dating luck and it is assumed by some he used a bot | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 04:46 PM |
| 9 | "women put more effort into their appearance than men"Only in America do women see looking nice as being “objectifying” yet still demand men who look like Chad. My only hope in dating is moving abroad. The international women here are basically top desirability at this point, even Chads are starting to notice they are higher value for long term relationships / marriage so I have little hope ever being able to get one. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 04:16 PM |
| 4 | "women put more effort into their appearance than men"I’m saying even if he wasn’t a celebrity he’d be attractive. And yes, having muscle helps. Bald men need to maxx out the masculine look | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 04:13 PM |
| 1 | Educationmaxxing is now a flex for a manIt’s mostly due to the pay in the larger cities. $18/hr isn’t enough when rent is $1700. And you need a good car that can drive to the sites. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 04:11 PM |
| 1 | Educationmaxxing is now a flex for a manThe understaffed roles are the ones that pay trash. You can’t start electricians on $18/hr in some HCOL city and expect to find workers. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 03:58 PM |
| 3 | How do you explain interabled relationships?I don’t find a reliable source for this. People are just jealous because his wife is hot without understanding that she has a fetish and she was never ever going to love average men or be attracted to them. People can have partners but not be sexually attracted to them or not as much. Most people with a fetish will probably never find someone who meets that. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 03:55 PM |
| 4 | "women put more effort into their appearance than men"Bald is ok if you are tall. The Rock isn’t considered to be ugly. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 03:50 PM |
| 17 | How do you explain interabled relationships?I’ve spoken on this topic with other people, and the general consensus is there’s a fetish involved. Let’s take for example Shane Burcaw, a famous YouTuber who’s disabled and has a wife significantly more attractive than him. The story on how they met is she watched a documentary on him, found his social media, DMed him and they started talking online and married. She is also reported to have had no serious relationships before him. It isn’t his personality that got him a wife it’s the fact he i… | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 03:39 PM |
| 16 | "women put more effort into their appearance than men"At least taller than they are is a cope and is just the requirement for a betabuxxer What women really want is 6ft+ or close | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 03:08 PM |
| 1 | "women put more effort into their appearance than men"Good fashion isn’t easier for men, we have the same articles of clothing women have to work with. Most of their time is spent on the other stuff. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 03:05 PM |
| 1 | when your wife is not attracted to you“Be better” = Be as good looking as Chad. If you aren’t even willing to let your partner touch you, I’m not sure if a relationship is the right path for you, perhaps you’d enjoy staying single more. Having observed a lot of relationships irl, partners touch each other all the time without permission even in public. It’s a sign of a healthy relationship where both partners are attracted to each other. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 03:03 PM |
| 1 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsThere are still old photos of them though? | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 03:01 PM |
| 1 | "women put more effort into their appearance than men"It does not take 3 years to get a muscular body that people notice. Took me about 3 months. Fully natural. Altering your diet to include much more protein makes a big difference. And 5 hours isn’t so bad because you do 4 days a week so about 1.25 hrs a day. Nobody cares about the lean body if you have muscle. No one expects you to alternate bodies and bulk and cut. I agree with the sleep and diet part though 100%. You absolutely can’t get a good body if you are in a high powered job. Or at least… | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 02:58 PM |
| 3 | "women put more effort into their appearance than men"They specifically say they are doing it for themselves but then try to whine about putting more effort than men. They can’t double dip here. You either put in effort in things that men appreciate or you have a hobby that you keep to yourself. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 02:55 PM |
| 2 | "women put more effort into their appearance than men"More men are overweight but more women are obese. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 02:52 PM |
| 3 | "women put more effort into their appearance than men"More men are overweight but more women are obese. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 02:52 PM |
| 11 | "women put more effort into their appearance than men"It’s honestly a bit surprising to me how much society has normalized deception coming from women starting with appearance. And most men are either too stupid and know nothing about these tricks or too desperate for a crumb of intimacy to care | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 02:49 PM |
| 3 | "women put more effort into their appearance than men"That’s all for themselves though. Let’s be honest, who here cares that much about hair color and facial makeup? And fashion is easy to plan, I always plan something decent before going out (I’m a male btw). | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 02:47 PM |
| 1 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsYeah for him he needs to practice conversations with people, online first . | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 02:35 PM |
| 1 | Why is there so much resistance against the blackpill?You’re aware that exceptions exist to the rule, correct? I find a decent group of bluepillers to be guys who could have been incels but found women who were exceptions | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 02:30 PM |
| 28 | "women put more effort into their appearance than men"Most women do things for themselves that don’t actually make themselves look better (and they openly admit this) but then they turn around and try to claim they have high value. Your 100% correct that women don’t lose weight. They also don’t wear jewelry or have a good sense of fashion. Their “effort” is tons of makeup on their face to hide flaws, hair dye to look blonde, tight clothing to exaggerate body characteristics, and then all the angles and lighting filters they use to take photos. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 02:25 PM |
| 1 | The biggest mistake of passport broSo basically you’re advocating for people to break the law to find a wife. You haven’t disproved my original comment assuming you actually follow the law | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 02:20 PM |
| 1 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsHow bad is your face? Can you point to a celebrity or public figure? | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 02:19 PM |
| 1 | when your wife is not attracted to youIf you don’t feel comfortable being touched by your spouse, you aren’t sexually attracted to them and also don’t care about their feelings. This is true for both men and women. I criticize men who complain about “clingy” women as well. Women set rules for beta and break rules for Chad. When the man is hot enough and she desires him all of these conditions get thrown out the door. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 02:16 PM |
| 3 | The biggest mistake of passport broSo they essentially break the visa laws to remain in the country. You aren’t supposed to do any kind of work on a tourist visa, and thus most people cannot sustain themselves on a tourist visa. Long distance is unreliable to vet the partner and your options are going to be much more limited. Very few people are interesting in doing that and of those who are the success rate is poor. We need physical connection and bonding as humans. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 01:56 PM |
| 1 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsCope | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 01:52 PM |
| 1 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsThis is a false equivalence because height only really works against women at around 5’ 10”+ which is about 7% of women. So being short or a desirable height for women is almost worthless because the vast majority of women clear it. Whereas for men, 15% of men are 6ft+, so as you can see being a desirable height for men is actually rare. Edit: These are US specific stats | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 01:51 PM |
| 1 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsYour 17? Maybe your high school sucks in terms of options. Wait until you get to college and try again. Things should change dramatically | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 01:43 PM |
| 1 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsSultan Kosen is married | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 01:41 PM |
| 1 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsLeg lengthening surgery is not a serious recommendation to short guys due to its side effects. Being an incel sucks, but no way am I putting my mobility at risk or ability to walk to find a partner | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 01:40 PM |
| 1 | when your wife is not attracted to youThey are already married and he’s just touching her. If he needs “consent” to touch his wife, she isn’t sexually attracted to him period. Physical acts of intimacy are fair game in the relationship at any time. In any healthy relationship both partners allow unlimited physical acts at any time from their other partner. And before you think this only benefits men, I’m sure you’ve heard of “clingy” girls who tend to be significantly more physical than their male partner. Only sexual acts that requ… | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 01:30 PM |
| 1 | Their is no difference approaching irl and using a dating apphttps://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2015/may/07/dating-app-tinder-married-relationship 42% of tinder users are in a relationship, and this was 2015. I’m sure it’s worse now. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna94163 This study has it close to 2/3 Where I live, women always wear a marriage / engagement ring so you can see immediately that they are taken. There’s always the percent that are already dating, but not engaged, but as you see above the apps don’t solve that issue. You’re also gener… | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 01:25 PM |
| 1 | Attractive women who have trouble finding good men / potential husbandsShe’s attractive enough that she would want a handsome man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 03:51 AM |
| 1 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcels100%. And it’s not even close. I’ve seen the change in societal treatment from women in my own life after becoming muscular / broad shouldered in the past few years and it is night and day. Unfortunately it isn’t enough to push me out of inceldom due to my height (lack of sexual attraction) but I’m decent looking enough to get a lot more conversations from strangers and respect in general that I never had before. I’ve gotten much better client service too even from younger women. Despite being o… | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 03:45 AM |
| 1 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsNo it isn’t. Women want a man who is masculine looking. Short and lean is about as far from that as you can get | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 03:23 AM |
| 2 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsNo being short and lean isn’t good at all. I used to be short and lean and be seen as entirely ugly. Now with broad shoulders and muscle I get a lot more conversations and respect from strangers irl. Doesn’t really matter though because even if I’m decent looking I don’t cross the height threshold which is extremely important for sexual attraction. I’m probably the guy who some people think “this guy could have been decent if only he was 4-5 inches taller”, similar to how some men talk about wom… | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 03:02 AM |
| 2 | Short men are ungrateful and toxic.Women’s eyes light up when a Chad even looks their way. I am sure that the sex is 1000X more enjoyable. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 02:57 AM |
| 1 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsYes, I am and they have more attractive torsos as well. It’s due to length and proportions such as midface length. I’m a short guy, broad shouldered with some muscle by my torso is just short dude. If it was some inches longer I’d look much better. 5’9” is way too short for women and will lead you to being an incel or betabuxxer in modern times | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 02:23 AM |
| 1 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsNo it relates to physical attraction because of mid face length, torso length / proportions, etc. Shorter guys have a shorter face and smaller torso, which is undesirable to women | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 02:02 AM |
| 1 | Women were not more traditional or less hypergamous in the past.Hypergamy relates to who you sexually desire and try to chase in your prime, not who you end up settling with. Also “Chad” exists in all social classes so hypergamy can occur within the socioeconomic brackets. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 01:45 AM |
| 1 | Women were not more traditional or less hypergamous in the past.I can make the same argument for women, honestly. Very hard to find women these days with a feminine appearance and beauty (the parts she can control) And those that exist get married at like 18 where I live | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 01:43 AM |
| 3 | Women were not more traditional or less hypergamous in the past.Well, I’m not so sure about that. Women are still ruthless in the dating market it’s just that what they are selecting for has changed to be more looks based and less money based | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 01:40 AM |
| 3 | The biggest mistake of passport broIt isn’t even the passport really but gaining a visa For passport bro to be effective you have to actually live abroad for several years, be part of the culture and find a local wife there. The people those countries tend to want are highly educated, high value men with a good skillset. These people are more likely to already be in relationships. It reminds me of when the retail workers on anti work or something idealize the Nordics. Most people who want to actually move abroad never will be abl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 01:37 AM |
| 1 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsThey say any blackpill content results in an immediate ban. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 01:30 AM |
| 1 | when your wife is not attracted to youWhen the man is handsome enough, yes the woman is infatuated with her. I can immediately think of two couples where they’ve been married for decades and even had kids but the wife was madly in love with her husband. Both husbands were older Chads. Obviously older couples are not having sex every second, but the man in OP was simply touching his wife which is well in bounds when a woman is sexually attracted to her hubby. “Sexual attraction ebbs and flows” simply means the woman was never deeply … | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 01:27 AM |
| 0 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsStacy isn’t mogging a 6’ 3” Hollister model lol. Most Stacey’s in my uni were dating frat bros from the adjacent fraternity house. Not multimillionaires and NFL athletes. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 01:21 AM |
| 3 | Ropeordope finally contradicting himselfHe mods ForeverAlone? u/RopeorDope1 can you lift my perma ban? It was given to me for a dumb reason (made a comment on self improvement) | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 12:22 AM |
| 1 | when your wife is not attracted to youWomen are always in the mood with Chad. Always. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 12:18 AM |
| 1 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsInteresting sub. Does this sub allow real content unlike r/short? | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 12:15 AM |
| 2 | I think most wives are not sexually attracted to their husbandsYes 5’ 10” is the minimum to have a chance. Which is why <5’ 10” is basically guaranteed betabuxxer outside of a few edge cases | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 11:12 PM |
| 1 | This sub is a perfect example of extremism and radicalisationNone of the comments you linked are mine. I’m not responsible for everyone’s arguments here. Ask them individually. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 11:11 PM |
| 1 | Attractive women who have trouble finding good men / potential husbandsSouth Beach and parts of Brickell are very different than the rest of the city | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 10:44 PM |
| 5 | This sub is a perfect example of extremism and radicalisationNo, people cite many studies. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 10:44 PM |
| 2 | This sub is a perfect example of extremism and radicalisationI both agree and disagree at the same time. I think some people individually are radicals on here and take Chad too far and imply you have to be a 6’ 4”, white blonde eyed Hollister model with muscle to get a crumb of affection from an average women. But I always feel like there is healthy pushback when people take it too far. We all agree that looks is the primary factor in sexual attractiveness, but what primary means or the threshold for what counts as good looking is not uniform among the us… | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 10:01 PM |
| 5 | If the majority of men get no matches on dating apps, how do the majority of couples meet using apps, and how to the majority of people still get married?“Literally anywhere” is a concrete sidewalk in the US because of how spread out our cities are. Also, people need to be in the right mood or state of emotion to cold approach them. The third place is what facilitates this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 09:45 PM |
| 1 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsWhere are you from? | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 09:43 PM |
| 7 | If the majority of men get no matches on dating apps, how do the majority of couples meet using apps, and how to the majority of people still get married?80/20 is only related to sexual attraction. Both men and woman messaged those they did not find attractive. People form relationships for various reasons, they are not always sexually attracted to each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 09:37 PM |
| 5 | If the majority of men get no matches on dating apps, how do the majority of couples meet using apps, and how to the majority of people still get married?You need third places to meet people in person | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 09:35 PM |
| 7 | If the majority of men get no matches on dating apps, how do the majority of couples meet using apps, and how to the majority of people still get married?Online dating isn’t just the apps. Estimates put about half of that is attributable to the apps. The other half is various online communities or social media. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 09:35 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: Would you break up with a girl because she's boring?Most people tend to bond over a certain hobby or shared interest in the selection phase so this question itself is ill-posed. You don’t just wake up one day and find every single hobby your partner does bores you mind out. You’d know this from day 1 and never date. It’s also a good argument for in-person dating instead of dating apps because you can control who you meet by only approaching people at events that enjoy you as well or locations of shared interest such as the gym. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 09:33 PM |
| 1 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsI have but they are in relationships where the girl desires them. One just got married that I know. And others had tons of women fawning over them. To women height >>>>>> face. To women being tall automatically makes you a Chad-lite or a Chad in terms of desirability | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 09:27 PM |
| -1 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsTop 5000 is already sleeping down. GigaChad will move down but he’s not going to move that far down if he’s drowning in options. Why bother having sex with a 7/10 when plenty of 9/10s are already interested in you? You aren’t a “normie” if you are 6ft+ and not overweight. You’re already in Chad territory. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 09:06 PM |
| 1 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsYeah but proportionally there are a lot more women. Like let’s say there are 500 Hollister model Chads and 20000 Becky+ women. It’s simple math that Hollister Chad doesn’t have time for all of them. He might target the hottest 5000, but there are still 15000 women left. Those 15000 are going after the less attractive tall men. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 09:02 PM |
| 3 | Short men are ungrateful and toxic.It isn’t always pleasurable but it is with Chad | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 08:59 PM |
| 3 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsNot enough men. Like sure the 10/10 Stacy might go for 6’3” Hollister model, but once you get to average Becky, there simply aren’t enough men at that point and they are focused on hotter women. Women have a certain threshold for sexual attraction. Men 6ft+ are above that. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 08:57 PM |
| 1 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsAsian women thirst after Asian guys who are 6ft+. I’ve been close friends with many of them. I used to think like you until those friendships completely changed my perspective not just on Asian women, but short women in general when it comes to height preference. There aren’t really many Latina women in my area, so I can’t comment on their height preference. I’ve been to Miami and LA a few times but didn’t actually ask any of the girls there about height. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 08:54 PM |
| 1 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsInteresting , what is ideal? | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 08:49 PM |
| 3 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsIt’s not just upper class white. I live in a smaller city with a lot of working class white / black folk. It’s no different here. <5’ 10” is over no matter how hot you are or fit you are. You might get lucky as a betabuxxer or find the occasional rare girl, but nowadays I’m seeing mostly incels at that height not even betabuxxers. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 08:47 PM |
| 0 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsThere’s nothing to cope about. I don’t look like him. Have you been to black communities and seen the men who slay? Most of them are just tall with a somewhat average face. He definitely could be a Tyrone. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 08:43 PM |
| -1 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcels5’8” is guaranteed incel in the US. If you’re really handsome you maybe can be a betabuxxer. At least this is true where I live. In the US height is 80%, face is 20%. Where I live in particular, height is 100%, face is just a tiebreaker for those with the same height. Conservative areas have a larger emphasis on height. So even if you are ugly and 6ft you can still be Chad-lite if you aren’t socially isolated. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 08:42 PM |
| 0 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsYes he would | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 08:40 PM |
| 5 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsDecent comparison but even that’s not strong enough, because plenty of men are sexually attracted to women with small breasts. But that line of reasoning is absolutely not true for height. There is no other genetic trait that is even close in either gender compared to height for men. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 08:38 PM |
| 1 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsYou aren’t “sub 5” if you are 6ft+. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 08:33 PM |
| -1 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsHe isn’t ugly. A little bit of working out and social skills and he’d be a Tyrone easily. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 08:31 PM |
| 5 | Short men are ungrateful and toxic.It was pleasurable when it happened. That’s why the women went after Chad to start with. Find other betabuxxers to rewrite your narrative with. It won’t work with me. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 08:29 PM |
| 1 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsI’ve never heard a woman bring up size irl. Ever. Have you? | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 07:44 PM |
| 3 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsThe 6’ 3” Chad is going to get a very attractive woman. I’m not claiming 6’ men can get anyone, I’m just saying a good group of women will be sexually interested in them so there’s no way they can be an incel. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 07:43 PM |
| 1 | Attractive women who have trouble finding good men / potential husbandsLack of trust is the effective end of a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 07:41 PM |
| 6 | The biggest mistake of passport broI think a lot of these men already find a wife first. So it doesn’t impact them if there is increased competition in the future | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 07:22 PM |
| 1 | “Incels” over 6ft are all mentalcelsIs anybody here from the Nordics? | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 07:21 PM |
| 10 | I think most wives are not sexually attracted to their husbandsIf you are <5’ 10”, you’re almost certainly going to be a guaranteed betabuxxer, like 99% chance | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 07:05 PM |
| 5 | Short men are ungrateful and toxic.Point is, they still usually had some type of short term enjoyment. Even the women who get pumped and dumped by Chad had a sexual night or two of extreme pleasure. Incels haven’t even had that one night or one touch or kiss and we want it. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 06:26 PM |
| 2 | How do you guys believe in the blackpill?Lol the more this discussion continues, the more and more OP continues to lose ground. Walk him back all the way to realizing that the blackpill is in fact true. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 05:39 PM |
| 9 | Short men are ungrateful and toxic.The people who say “relationships don’t matter” have always had relationships before. And saying people can’t complain because others have it worse is a race to the bottom in society in terms of quality of life. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 05:32 PM |
| 1 | Their is no difference approaching irl and using a dating appNo the point is there are more women. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 05:15 PM |
| 1 | Short + Balding + Ethnic + Small Bone Structure. My love life is brutal.Huh, interesting. Never heard of that before. What is the ideal wrist size for a male? | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Go for flirty girls if you want to get laidWhy do you think you are single with so many young women around? | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 03:24 PM |
| 3 | Go for flirty girls if you want to get laidYeah that might be a good counter example honestly. Whenever women are wearing clothing that is so tight like that or uncomfortable to the point that there’s no logical explanation to it. I’ve seen a few gym girls with the super tight yoga pants and honestly they don’t workout intensely (because you can’t with clothing like that) and it just looks very uncomfortable. I don’t have positive thoughts towards women like that though so idk if they even get positive attention or not. And I’ve also see… | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 03:17 PM |
| 2 | Go for flirty girls if you want to get laidPeople lie a lot less when they are your friends. Also, knowing the personality of people goes a long way. Btw I’m specifically referring to the people I see irl. I don’t actually see IG thots irl or girls who are like them. Perhaps if you are in some influencer city like LA, your experience varies. I’ve spoken to some people on the past in this topic and they say things are much different in LA so idk. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 03:09 PM |
| 1 | Women were not more traditional or less hypergamous in the past.I think you’re forgetting that a lot of things changed in about 3-4 decades. For example if someone was born when civil rights was taking off (1950s) they’d already be 35 by 1990 and realistically the teenagers of that generation were also receptive to it so those people were like 50 and under by 1990. Segregation was outlawed in the 60s, but it still took some decades to truly be accepted mainstream. But by 1990, those decades had past. The other issue was getting a job and workplace discrimina… | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 03:02 PM |
| 1 | Go for flirty girls if you want to get laidI’m not lying. What incentive do I have to lie here? Just talk to women in-person and have friends that dress with varying styles and learn about why they are dressing the way they are. Most of you guys admit to have never had a female friend or really even talked to one and then you want to tell me I’m lying. You guys also know that women get attention easily already but then you want me to believe they spend their whole day planning how to get sex from men. Sex is a single swipe away for a wom… | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 02:44 PM |
| 0 | Go for flirty girls if you want to get laidThe only instances I’ve found that women plan their clothing to attract men is to create the “good girl” image that you naive guys crave so much. I’ve heard several girls talk about intentionally dressing conservative to attract certain men. I’ve yet to hear the reverse. I’ve never heard of a woman wearing less to be seen as “available”. Women aren’t stupid, if they want the betabuxxer like yourself they will go ultra modest to appease you. Mind you those good girls are still hooking up with Cha… | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 02:32 PM |
| 2 | Go for flirty girls if you want to get laidWomen are getting tons of attention no matter what they wear. And generally irl, the attention is not positive if you dress really egregiously to the point people notice. I remember one time at a college conference there was this one girl who was wearing a sleeveless top with cleavage and a really short skirt. The guys next to me who saw her pass by said among themselves “How did she even get in wearing that” and then they continued to speak negatively about her. I remember being also a bit stun… | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 02:22 PM |
| 2 | Go for flirty girls if you want to get laidThere are a lot of “smaller skirts” that are not miniskirts. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 02:16 PM |
| 1 | Women were not more traditional or less hypergamous in the past.It depends on the profile of the individual person. Drug crimes including even just possession were treated much more harshly back then especially drug crimes committed by black men, and we didn’t have DNA tests for sentencing like we do today, so false imprisonment of black men was more common. I would say those who don’t do drugs and didn’t feel like they would be falsely sentenced would want to go back, as everything was much cheaper back then and the standard of living was higher. But those … | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 02:14 PM |
| -1 | Go for flirty girls if you want to get laidIt can hit highs of 90 degrees in Pheonix in October. I think you should pay more attention to where exactly the content you follow is coming from. For example a lot of content comes from Miami which is another city that is hot year-round. It’s also worth pointing out hot/cold depends on where you’re from. Some people only feel cold at much lower temperature if they were born in a very cold place like Scandinavia. It’s extraordinarily rare to meet women irl who are dressing solely for attention,… | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 02:06 PM |
| 1 | "femcels" show how desperate women are for attentionThe US is the #1 country for trafficking in the world | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 01:58 PM |
| -4 | Go for flirty girls if you want to get laidHas it ever occurred to you she’s wearing a smaller skirt or dress because it’s hot outside, not because she’s “available”? I imagine some of the guys with this viewpoint never going out and when they do they were a full hoodie and jeans and are a sweaty, smelly, mess. And before people criticize me, go back into your history books and study the migration trends once AC become common and clothing trends more relaxed. No way anyone could wear Victorian era clothing and survive in a city like Phoe… | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 01:53 PM |
| -1 | Short + Balding + Ethnic + Small Bone Structure. My love life is brutal.Small wrists? Since when was wrist size considered attractive or ugly ? | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 01:46 PM |
| 3 | Women were not more traditional or less hypergamous in the past.Loving v. Virginia was decided in 1967. A lot of the other civil rights stuff passed in the 1960s. By the 80s and 90s things were much better for people of color. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 01:10 PM |
| 1 | "femcels" show how desperate women are for attentionThink about what you just wrote. And maybe reassess your internalized racism towards foreign women. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 01:08 PM |
| 1 | Attractive women who have trouble finding good men / potential husbandsYes, and Continental Europeans as well. A lot of people from across the pond who move over complain about this because they feel Americans aren’t as authentic or straight-forward. Our social culture is more image driven (and you can see that even in a lot of the criteria red pill men have for a women) rather than just expressing who you really are as a person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 01:07 PM |
| 1 | Attractive women who have trouble finding good men / potential husbandsThat’s true only if the class difference is extremely significant. Like Starbucks barista and millionaire. Otherwise it’s pretty uncommon to see. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 01:04 PM |
| 1 | Women hate socially awkward and/or quiet males?I am introverted but I can talk to women including strangers and have done so many times. Being able to talk to strangers is a very low bar where I live and is simply mandatory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 01:02 PM |
| 1 | <5’ 10” = (almost) guaranteed betabuxxer?And at what age did you meet him? Because from what I see irl, all the women like you are taken and went off the market way too quick | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 12:59 PM |
| 0 | Their is no difference approaching irl and using a dating appWell, the argument for cold approaching is that you can ask all the women around you. With apps, you can only ask the women who are actually on that particular app; which is going to be a fraction of the total number of single women. It’s also a matter of standing out. The number of men who cold approach a woman will be far less than the number who swipe right on her. Doesn’t mean it will be a magic solution, nothing truly is for the modern average man, but it’s just about trying all your option… | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 12:57 PM |
| 9 | Height isn't a problem.There was a study that showed that height preferences are strongest in areas that are more traditional / conservative. I just do happen to live in one of the more conservative areas of the country, and here height is a HUGE deal for both men and women. Being a short man means it’s over. I’m 5’8” - 5’9” and it isn’t enough here. Not even close. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 03:52 AM |
| 2 | Women were not more traditional or less hypergamous in the past.Yeah basically the 80s and 90s. Most of us do not want to go back further in time. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 03:41 AM |
| 8 | Attractive women who have trouble finding good men / potential husbands“Thousands” is an exaggeration imo. Most wealthy people tend to be within their own social circles in the cities. They go to their own bars, dining, gyms, social clubs, etc. While a Starbucks barista may want to date a $500k handsome banker, she’s never going to get near him to even be a real choice. I’m only counting women who could potentially be considered by the guy. Not distant dreamers who have 0 chance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 03:37 AM |
| 2 | How old is everyone here?But on the other hand if you are like me, completely ignorant of the blackpill until later in life you waste your youth on things that make you a good betabuxxer, and do not realize how fast decent women go off the market. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 02:40 AM |
| 8 | Women were not more traditional or less hypergamous in the past.People tend to argue in extremes when it comes to conservatism / liberalism. Most of us do not want a return to the 1920s. Even the dating culture in the 80s and 90s was WAY better than it is today. That would be my ideal | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 02:39 AM |
| 4 | Attractive women who have trouble finding good men / potential husbandsThose “nice men” have a very clear past that women ignore due to the looks of the man. If doesn’t bother them that he’s been moving from girl to girl or has multiple women in his arms at the bar. They still think they’ll be the special one for him. And yes, I’ve seen these things clear as day. Women don’t care about promiscuity or a man’s sexual past unfortunately when they are looking to have fun or the man is handsome, but then wonder why he doesn’t commit. It’s not a mystery and you all know … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 02:24 AM |
| 4 | How old is everyone here?It’s too early to give up, but not too early to know looks matter. Being bluepilled at that age leads you down the path of the betabuxxer such as focusing too much on education (me) | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 02:13 AM |
| 1 | Attractive women who have trouble finding good men / potential husbandsDefinitely, you didn’t know that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 12:37 AM |
| 4 | Attractive women who have trouble finding good men / potential husbandsI wouldn’t be insecure because someone like Taylor Swift has had so much access to high value men, that clearly she has her reasons for selecting someone random like me. It’s a silly hypothetical though because Taylor Swift operates in a different social class. Also, I wouldn’t want to date Taylor Swift given her extensive past history but that’s my personal preference unrelated to your question. Preparing backup options is toxic and is a reflection of yourself more than most men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 12:24 AM |
| 3 | Attractive women who have trouble finding good men / potential husbandsI don’t think this is true. Plenty of fashion models date richer guys in the corporate world. The husbands usually simply don’t appear in the feeds much. In cities like LA, NYC, Miami people are used to influencers and public figures. What you are saying holds truth in more smaller hidden cities such as maybe some regional Midwest city like Kansas City. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 12:16 AM |
| 1 | Tired of normie gaslightingI wasn’t playing video games all day, but I focused on school and education too much. If I could turn the clock back I would have gone to a less academically rigorous high school and focused more on relationships. Good grades, degrees, certifications all mean so little when you are alone. I had no idea how quick and fast the dating market would go. My parents were both late when they married so they didn’t give any guidance in that area. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 11:53 PM |
| 1 | Tired of normie gaslightingEvery inch makes a big difference in terms of proportions and so forth especially when a man is on the borderline | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 11:50 PM |
| 2 | Tired of normie gaslightingYeah I don’t disagree actually. I always say that if you want to know what either gender really wants in terms of looks go to nightclubs and look at the entertainers, look at the influencers who are popular to the opposite gender, look at romance novels or the IG thots that have 100s of simps in the comments. Look at the common vices / pasttimes of the other gender related to beauty and see what the beauty actually looks like. That is the true, non PC, often not socially acceptable beauty standa… | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 11:42 PM |
| 15 | Attractive women who have trouble finding good men / potential husbands“Leading” doesn’t mean bossing around. There are symbolic versions of leading such as being richer, more charismatic, etc. Essentially the equivalent of “dating up”. I agree not every women follows that in 2023, but they are also probably partnered. We are specifically talking about single “high value” women who say they are unable to find a man for commitment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 11:21 PM |
| 11 | Attractive women who have trouble finding good men / potential husbandsAmericans are less blunt to strangers about such things because they like to portray a different image of themselves. Get to know people more closely and it’s a lot different. I’d also be curious to know which places you visited in the US. Because a lot of the old money / higher social class people tend to live further out from the city core and tourist areas | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 11:18 PM |
| 4 | Attractive women who have trouble finding good men / potential husbandsObviously the requirements I wrote are based on her own credentials. The average woman is obviously not looking for someone who makes $500k a year (or at least not seriously thinking of that as a real requirement). Marrying up often works for women, but at the higher levels of income the pyramid gets steeper and steeper, which makes it significantly harder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 11:12 PM |
| 12 | Attractive women who have trouble finding good men / potential husbandsI didn’t make any value judgements about the men she picks. I’m simply answering a question. Again, you need to spend some time around men and women like this. Those who made it into high status circles 100% care about it and contrary to what the dudes on here say, men care about it when selecting a woman as well. Idk how the UK is but in the US social class is alive and well. She isn’t losing out to some feminine barista as some red pillers might claim, she’s losing out to a sorority girl with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 11:08 PM |
| 10 | Attractive women who have trouble finding good men / potential husbandsWell first, the man has to be interested in committing. Guys who are getting regular sexual interest from women like her have very little interest in settling down until they want a family and kids. Once they reach the commitment phase, it does become a volume issue. When you have dozens of immediate options, it’s simply math that many women will lose out. While you did make this post it isn’t true that every woman like Mimi ends up like her. You can find plenty of “trophy wife” pages on social … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 11:05 PM |
| 20 | Attractive women who have trouble finding good men / potential husbandsIt’s less important for utilitarian purposes (although in NYC an equivalent double income will help a lot) but it’s more about the guy leading the relationship, being more accomplished, “dating up” etc. A woman with a stronger background isn’t going to magically relax her requirements compared to an average woman. They still have the same ideals and wishes. Another point to add is just based on social circle alone, she’s going to have far more exposure to the men I mentioned above then some regu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 10:59 PM |
| 7 | Attractive women who have trouble finding good men / potential husbandsHave you ever been around women like the OP before? I have and have been friends with many. I know exactly what I’m talking about here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 10:55 PM |
| 7 | Attractive women who have trouble finding good men / potential husbandsShe’s a luxury jewelry designer. She isn’t poor | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 10:51 PM |
| 98 | Attractive women who have trouble finding good men / potential husbandsGenerally, they are looking for men more accomplished than them, and with equivalent or better looks. I don’t know what she earns but let’s ballpark it around $300k all in including the fashion job and her TikTok. She will want a man who is handsome and who earns at least $500k. The pool of men who exist with all features that are markedly better than hers, is going to be small even in a city like NYC and those men are drowning in options. As you reach higher levels of income, it’s an increasing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 10:49 PM |
| 11 | If having casual sex is 'empowering' for women why do they need to 'heal'?It’s projection by women | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 10:25 PM |
| 1 | Standard Single Mom Profile #164,898You’d be surprised but the church has had a shift towards accommodating these single mothers and softly recommending the beta Christian males who have been pure since birth to marry them, so that the next generation of Christian kids can fill the pews. This is their solution to the falling attendance in Church. Beta males are also a good thing because they don’t question church leaders or doctrine but act like a neutered good boy and throw 10+% of their income into the modern day money machine. … | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 30/10/23 08:22 PM |
| 2 | "Conservative" is to dating what "organic" is to food. It attempts to convince the buyer that the higher price is worth it when the reality is you're getting something objectively worse.Tattoos is common among working class conservatives | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 30/10/23 08:18 PM |
| 1 | "Conservative" is to dating what "organic" is to food. It attempts to convince the buyer that the higher price is worth it when the reality is you're getting something objectively worse.It’s called “born again virgin”. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 30/10/23 08:17 PM |
| 2 | "Conservative" is to dating what "organic" is to food. It attempts to convince the buyer that the higher price is worth it when the reality is you're getting something objectively worse.As a conservative leaning male this is 100% true. The women just know how to craft a “good girl” image 100% better which makes relationships much worse. And the church encourages men to be the betabuxxer of another man’s kid | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 30/10/23 08:16 PM |
| 2 | <5’ 10” = (almost) guaranteed betabuxxer?I’m not from the Nordics. I’m in the US. And <5’10” is absolutely short. Although I guess maybe Hispanic communities are different. I am not too familiar with them. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 07:42 PM |
| 2 | "femcels" show how desperate women are for attentionInterracial Relationships are 100% consensual on both sides. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 07:40 PM |
| 2 | Yet another reminder that if she isn't fucking you, she's most likely fucking someone else.“Don’t do this anymore” means the good stable men have to pay for the sins of Chad | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 30/10/23 06:32 PM |
| 1 | Yet another reminder that if she isn't fucking you, she's most likely fucking someone else.Those “religious circles” are no different at all. It’s even worse because there’s a stronger incentive to pretend and maintain an image. And then you have to deal with all the “born again virgin” single moms. It’s a complete joke, coming from a religious guy. Stay as far away from church as possible when you want to select a partner. The bar is 1000X more reliable to assess their behavior than church is. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 30/10/23 06:30 PM |
| 7 | "femcels" show how desperate women are for attentionThere’s nothing wrong with changing locations to find a romantic partner. People move all the time. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 06:00 PM |
| 8 | "femcels" show how desperate women are for attentionImagine advocating for incels to participate in an industry that is positively correlated with sex trafficking. What a disgusting suggestion to try to win internet points | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 05:42 PM |
| 1 | "femcels" show how desperate women are for attentionThat is a redpill concept, not black pill | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 05:12 PM |
| 0 | <5’ 10” = (almost) guaranteed betabuxxer?Obsessed with sexual desire? Because that’s the only way you can truly be loved by a woman. If she desired you. Love can’t be bought. It comes from within. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 04:24 PM |
| 2 | <5’ 10” = (almost) guaranteed betabuxxer?Actually in the Nordics and NL the ideal height in a man is around 6’ 2” (backed up by studies). So even 6’ is meh there. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 03:51 PM |
| 0 | <5’ 10” = (almost) guaranteed betabuxxer?It’s fine to be a betabuxxer, not to be sexually desired. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 03:50 PM |
| 1 | Tired of normie gaslightingThe women who truly don’t have those attributes all get married really young. Like even on Reddit some women will brag about being madly in love with her 5’ 7” hubby or something and how she gets turned on by him and upon further questioning I find she got married at 16 or 17 to her high school sweetheart. It’s happened numerous times. They’re literally all taken by this point. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 03:49 PM |
| 2 | Has a female friend or co-worker casually brought up how cute a guy is when she sees him walking by in the distance or something. Why do they bring this up in front another guy they are hanging out with, or working with?I’m confused where you think anyone is angry. OP asked a question, I answered | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 03:45 PM |
| 3 | Why are they so unfunny?I’ve noticed this as well. When me and some guys make jokes there’s often some sort of non PC type comment or we are taking jabs at each other and some women who overhear us will say “Don’t say that!” or “Be nice!”. It’s annoying and so usually guys will just joke among themselves and actually look to see there are no women around before talking with each other. It’s also one of the reasons guys talk about women predominantly through the lens of sexual or physical intimacy, because it’s pretty h… | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 01:59 PM |
| 40 | Stacylite pops The Big Question after dating bad boys and becoming a mom.The crazy thing is these women claim they were tricked or didn’t know who the good men were, but somehow after the child is born they magically find Mr. Beta almost immediately, even DMing the nice guys from high school. They know who the good men and the bad men are they just want to spend as long as possible with the sexually attractive bad boys and have their kids and keep beta once she’s hit post-wall or needs someone to raise bad boy’s kids. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 30/10/23 01:55 PM |
| 0 | Tired of normie gaslightingIf he’s extremely hot, or the girl is desperate the tables turn quickly. Every woman on this site seems to describe their dating behaviors similar to that of 10/10 Stacies. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 01:35 PM |
| 1 | Dating as a minority under 6ft in Australia is brutalYou can date ethnic women born in Australia as well | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 01:32 PM |
| 3 | Dating as a minority under 6ft in Australia is brutalThe thing is when people are mostly outdoors, they don’t even use the apps. You have to be online or near an internet source to do so, not surfing and playing volleyball at the beach. I didn’t provide any guarantee of a relationship, but he doesn’t even seem to have any friends because he was talking about quitting his job and moving home. It isn’t “harassing”, it’s called public events and third places a concept foreign to the socially isolated America sadly. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 01:28 PM |
| 1 | What makes one ugly woman more special than the other?A desire to Lose weight. And she should actually go and do it. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 04:05 AM |
| 8 | Tired of normie gaslightingTinder is 3:1 but people meet through social media platforms also. Places like TikTok lean the other way. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 04:03 AM |
| 2 | Why don’t sub 6’ men just all ropemaxx togetherFor a lot of people, the language barrier is the hardest hurdle when it comes to moving. I’ve considered a move to continental Europe before because I hear height requirements are more relaxed there, but the language issues make it tough. You NEED to be C1 and internalizing the grammar is too difficult for me. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 04:00 AM |
| 1 | If you are an incel I can give you one comforting piece of advice, this life is only temporary.What makes you think inceldom doesn’t continue in the next life? | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 03:09 AM |
| 5 | Has a female friend or co-worker casually brought up how cute a guy is when she sees him walking by in the distance or something. Why do they bring this up in front another guy they are hanging out with, or working with?Yeah but I think that degree of honestly startled him, especially occurring irl which is why he made this thread. It’s one thing to read about women’s preferences online, it’s another to actually experience it first hand in-person. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 03:05 AM |
| 1 | Tired of normie gaslightingShe’s not entirely wrong it’s just that those women marry at like 19. They are long gone from the market, and are thus not relevant to us. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 03:02 AM |
| 4 | Tired of normie gaslightingThe women who can truly get sexually attracted and desire 5’ 10” men are off the market a long, long time ago. Like high school sweetheart for the non college educated or maybe college sweetheart. In the adult, working world those women were taken ages ago. Who is left are the women thirsting after 6’ 1” men. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 03:01 AM |
| 18 | Tired of normie gaslightingWoman say 5’ 10” is fine but then they act differently when the 6’ 1” Chad comes for a stride. Woman speak by their body language stronger than what they say. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 02:59 AM |
| 7 | Has a female friend or co-worker casually brought up how cute a guy is when she sees him walking by in the distance or something. Why do they bring this up in front another guy they are hanging out with, or working with?He was just asking why she was so honest to him. In the grand scheme of things your right that he isn’t interested in her and she clearly isn’t in him, so it doesn’t even matter. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 02:40 AM |
| 3 | <5’ 10” = (almost) guaranteed betabuxxer?I wasn’t a blackpiller at the time. Nothing you wrote makes much sense, if you don’t believe people can have a large social group of friends and be able to observe things very clearly, it says more about your own social life. You clearly haven’t had deep friends before which might explain in part why you have a response for almost every single thread here. In my case it was a larger sample because it was a school group. Think of how close your school’s band kids were with each other, especially … | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 02:38 AM |
| 8 | Has a female friend or co-worker casually brought up how cute a guy is when she sees him walking by in the distance or something. Why do they bring this up in front another guy they are hanging out with, or working with?Without knowing who? I know these people well. I saw their various actions and behaviors. Women act different around men of different looks. I’ve seen this my entire life including the many women I’ve known personally. Some are more extreme than others but what I mentioned above is not an uncommon occurrence. It’s happened to me several times. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 02:22 AM |
| 2 | <5’ 10” = (almost) guaranteed betabuxxer?I used to travel a bit with some of those friends so I did see real intimacy not just a casual hug that you might see in a formal setting or in class. Similarly, I saw the court jesters and the orbiters, and knew they were getting nothing, because I saw how the same women acted around hotter guys. When it got really weird was when people in relationships started double dipping or having a side piece. I’d known all of them for years, we were part of a school group (think similar to band) that did… | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 02:14 AM |
| 2 | <5’ 10” = (almost) guaranteed betabuxxer?You’re not a top 10% male facially and on top of that you’re short. I think some of the guys here are really ugly and unwilling to admit it and call themselves average. Even the truerateme guides for men’s rating is seriously inflated. There are guys with asymmetrical faces on there given 8.5/10 | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 02:07 AM |
| 4 | <5’ 10” = (almost) guaranteed betabuxxer?Bluepillers always say this but then you guys are never able to even provide one source of substance. Maybe an edge case here and there which is already covered by my (almost). | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 02:04 AM |
| 2 | <5’ 10” = (almost) guaranteed betabuxxer?Again, a very poor argument. I have had several close friends in long term relationships, several friends who have been orbiters, etc. All of this stuff can be pretty easily seen. It’s not a mystery at all. You just need to have been around people and known them well and that has occurred with me for hundreds of people. Perhaps you should step outside a few times and make some friends rather than being here 24/7 | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 02:02 AM |
| 8 | Has a female friend or co-worker casually brought up how cute a guy is when she sees him walking by in the distance or something. Why do they bring this up in front another guy they are hanging out with, or working with?What does “your loss” mean? Men live different lives based on their looks. I’m not sure what “prejudice” is meant to mean here. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 01:54 AM |
| 3 | <5’ 10” = (almost) guaranteed betabuxxer?You know as well as I that if you had the opportunity to date an equivalent girl without this side business, you’d do it. You don’t have that opportunity because you are short | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 01:53 AM |
| 8 | Has a female friend or co-worker casually brought up how cute a guy is when she sees him walking by in the distance or something. Why do they bring this up in front another guy they are hanging out with, or working with?Because I’ve seen how women act around potential betabuxxers or “maybe” guys. One of the key things about orbiting is the guy has to be convinced he has a real chance. Continuously bragging about how 6’ 2” blue eyed full head of hair coworkers are hot, isn’t going to be convincing to a 5’10” average face balding coworker that he has a real chance with that woman. Usually women will solely talk about personality or other traits around those “maybe guys” to make them feel like they have a chance a… | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 01:42 AM |
| 4 | <5’ 10” = (almost) guaranteed betabuxxer?That money isn’t for free lol. You and I know both very well that money is earned and the men think she’s single. The fact you are so accepting of this shows your fate as a short dude. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 01:38 AM |
| 1 | No one is surprisedHer hair is light brown. Cope is calling it dark blonde | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 01:36 AM |
| 1 | No one is surprisedCope. Since you edited, anything darker than gold is a cope imo. Doesn’t have to be platinum tier, just at least gold | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 01:24 AM |
| 3 | <5’ 10” = (almost) guaranteed betabuxxer?Lol so your girlfriend is openly cheating on you with foreign men and you don’t even care. This is even worse than betabuxxing | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 01:23 AM |
| 3 | <5’ 10” = (almost) guaranteed betabuxxer?Does she desire you? Women can “tolerate” a man who is just taller than them, but it’s not the same as sexual attraction or desire | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 01:22 AM |
| 4 | <5’ 10” = (almost) guaranteed betabuxxer?You’re cherry picking one of my bullet points without looking at everything else I wrote | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 01:21 AM |
| 0 | No one is surprisedThat includes all brown hair as well. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 01:18 AM |
| 2 | In a rare moment of self-awareness, women finally discover that Chad has been using them…. and then decide to blame all men collectively.Yep, they call it the “spark” | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 01:06 AM |
| 3 | Dating as a minority under 6ft in Australia is brutalDo you live near the coast? I would take advantage of the beach and look for the various events hosted there. That’s a free third place for socialization. Assuming you live in a desirable place in Australia it’s a huge outdoors culture. Ditch the apps and start doing stuff in person on the weekends outdoors to build a social group. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 12:47 AM |
| 5 | Women hate socially awkward and/or quiet males?This is the correct answer. Men are expected to lead the relationship. How are men supposed to lead if they are too frightened to talk to a woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 12:41 AM |
| 2 | Halloween parties are a way for women in relationships to manipulate or put pressure on their men. They also are one of the most underrated and obviously red flags guys missThe Victorian era was a period of extreme conservatism and chastity which spread quite a bit with the rise of the British Empire in the 1800s and early 1900s. People automatically assume any era before then was even more conservative, when actually that is not the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 12:07 AM |
| 0 | No one is surprisedShe’s brown haired. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 12:03 AM |
| 1 | No one is surprisedIn favorable gold digger relationships the work is purely monetary, which he seems to have a lot of. He buys her expensive stuff and takes her on fancy vacations and pays her bills, and she’ll play the role of the feminine, cute, kind wife. He knows it’s acting but it’s still better than what 80% of men get. You need serious money to do this, and not many women agree to relationships like this, which is where the betabuxxers go wrong. They think a $150k career is enough to play in this space (it… | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/10/23 11:56 PM |
| 15 | Has a female friend or co-worker casually brought up how cute a guy is when she sees him walking by in the distance or something. Why do they bring this up in front another guy they are hanging out with, or working with?She wouldn’t talk about it if she thought she might like you though | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/10/23 11:54 PM |
| 34 | Has a female friend or co-worker casually brought up how cute a guy is when she sees him walking by in the distance or something. Why do they bring this up in front another guy they are hanging out with, or working with?That usually means your too ugly to be even consisted a betabuxxer for her, so there’s 0 incentive for her to hide her true self. It’s happened to me a lot also. Edit: Women are getting mad lol, downvotes are flooding in | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/10/23 10:29 PM |
| 1 | No one is surprisedHe gets long term commitment here though. It’s the choice between absolutely 0 or fake love that feels real. Many men would pick the second in a heartbeat | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/10/23 09:47 PM |
| 2 | Halloween parties are a way for women in relationships to manipulate or put pressure on their men. They also are one of the most underrated and obviously red flags guys missYou’re just playing semantics at this point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 09:46 PM |
| 1 | No one is surprisedHe’s getting intimacy at the end of the day that either feels real or is real, so I don’t see how he’s losing. Betabuxxing / mean gold digging is different because they don’t get intimacy or very little and the partner is usually disinterested a lot of the time. | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/10/23 09:18 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Trying to force men and women to date or fuck ugly people will never workYes, to a man named Chris Fischer for 5 years now | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/10/23 09:16 PM |
| 2 | Halloween parties are a way for women in relationships to manipulate or put pressure on their men. They also are one of the most underrated and obviously red flags guys missAnd also 2000 years ago. Look at the first mural in this link. https://lavocedinewyork.com/en/news/2022/10/05/did-the-ancient-romans-invent-the-bikini/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 08:48 PM |
| 2 | Halloween parties are a way for women in relationships to manipulate or put pressure on their men. They also are one of the most underrated and obviously red flags guys missThey were not. That’s like the modern form of it, but the Romans get the credit first. However new findings indicates it may go back even earlier. https://lavocedinewyork.com/en/news/2022/10/05/did-the-ancient-romans-invent-the-bikini/ The Victorian era in particular was one of extreme chastity so we tend to forget what happened before that era. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 08:46 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Trying to force men and women to date or fuck ugly people will never workShe’s married though. So what’s your point again? | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/10/23 08:23 PM |
| 2 | what is this notion "society" is supposed to magically "create" spaces for you to socialize if youre an abnormal teetotaller who cant just do what everyone has always done socially?I’m talking about regional cities like Pheonix, Dallas, Minneapolis, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 08:06 PM |
| 3 | Halloween parties are a way for women in relationships to manipulate or put pressure on their men. They also are one of the most underrated and obviously red flags guys missYou realize the men dress exactly the same in parties like this? When the women dresses that way, the men go shirtless as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 07:55 PM |
| 4 | Halloween parties are a way for women in relationships to manipulate or put pressure on their men. They also are one of the most underrated and obviously red flags guys missThey were absolutely conventional 30 years ago and even 70 years ago. A lot of revisionist history on PPD today. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 07:53 PM |
| 4 | Halloween parties are a way for women in relationships to manipulate or put pressure on their men. They also are one of the most underrated and obviously red flags guys missThey were invented 2000 years ago by the Romans actually, and saw resurgence in the 1950s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 07:53 PM |
| 5 | Halloween parties are a way for women in relationships to manipulate or put pressure on their men. They also are one of the most underrated and obviously red flags guys missThis entire thread is really strange and makes 0 sense to anyone who has any knowledge of social events. In Halloween parties, typically the men and women dress equivalently. So if the women is wearing less, you would expect to see the guy (her bf/hubby) shirtless. For stuff like this, assortative mating is the norm. People with a similar level of confidence and trust in each other end up with each other. You don’t see some quiet nerd with a crazy girl who is trying to seduce Chad in these sort … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 07:50 PM |
| 1 | what is this notion "society" is supposed to magically "create" spaces for you to socialize if youre an abnormal teetotaller who cant just do what everyone has always done socially?That MiddleZealous user lives in Montreal, if I remember correctly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 07:44 PM |
| 1 | BrootalYou’re responding to me, not them. You said I vigorously insist she is mid, when I said she is a high tier Becky. | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/10/23 07:39 PM |
| 0 | No one is surprisedThis whole thing sounds like cope from brown haired women trying to claim they are blonde. If the hair isn’t gold or lighter, it isn’t blonde. | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/10/23 07:37 PM |
| 1 | what is this notion "society" is supposed to magically "create" spaces for you to socialize if youre an abnormal teetotaller who cant just do what everyone has always done socially?Most of the time they were held late night at my Uni. I went to some of the ones during the day / afternoon but it didn’t really mean much. You need to be much more active to really meet a lot of women and date and basically 99% of the good events were held at evenings - late nights | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 07:18 PM |
| 8 | what is this notion "society" is supposed to magically "create" spaces for you to socialize if youre an abnormal teetotaller who cant just do what everyone has always done socially?Most people can no longer afford to live there. And the entrance ticket is too high. In the past many regional cities had rents about $500/month in the areas of culture. Today good luck finding anything for under $1500-$2000. Oh and car prices have exploded, and other costs as well. And wages have barely moved. And work is short staffed and far more stressful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 07:14 PM |
| 2 | what is this notion "society" is supposed to magically "create" spaces for you to socialize if youre an abnormal teetotaller who cant just do what everyone has always done socially?Honestly every inch of society in the US has been designed to extract as much money out of people without an ounce of enjoyment or free or very cheap socialization. All the very free / cheap areas have been gentrified out to only serve the rich or shut down. This country is now only a country of the top 10%. If you’re in the bottom 90 things are getting much worse and fast. I’m hoping to passport bro out. I see 0 indication that things will turn around for the better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 07:09 PM |
| 9 | what is this notion "society" is supposed to magically "create" spaces for you to socialize if youre an abnormal teetotaller who cant just do what everyone has always done socially?Not everyone could afford to live on campus for college. I was a commuter from far (lived at home), and then Covid happened for my last few years so it was totally online. And now many jobs are still remote or barely come into the office. For high school, I went to one of those more advanced charter schools so all the women were super high value and had 0 interest in a guy like me. Many were old money. I got grandfathered in due to merit (very high scores) even though I didn’t live in the area. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 07:07 PM |
| 4 | what is this notion "society" is supposed to magically "create" spaces for you to socialize if youre an abnormal teetotaller who cant just do what everyone has always done socially?Canada is much more walkable than most US cities and has better public transport | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 07:03 PM |
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