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To be fair, though, I live in one of the wealthiest towns in America. The housewives are not wanting for much to put it mildly. Do they still complain and want something different, yes. Most of them magically want their husbands to earn high 6 to 7 figures while being home by 5 PM to help them with the kids. That’s typically their beef these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 07:26 PM
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Men that are ambitious and motivated, there really is no finish line. You fall in love with the process and you keep going as far as you can. There’s no really point where you made it and want to turn it off. Most men that exit their business and make a ton of money take a year or two off to enjoy it and then they get right back at it with a new venture. From any women, there is a finish line in terms of what they dreamed of. The house, the kids, the husband, the vacations. At some point, they f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:00 PM
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If men and women have a lot of sexual experience, it is highly unlikely that their primary partner is the best I’ve ever had. There are a lot of reasons for that, but the main one is that the most uninhibited sexual partners usually have a lot of trauma and mental health issues… along with drug issues. They can be a blast short term, but they are usually not someone who would be a reliable partner. Guys need to get over this. If you’re a guy and you have put in the effort to be good in bed then …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:53 AM
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I find that age gap relationships are a lot like other obscure things were only the rich and the poor participate. Its not a middle class thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 03:45 AM
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As a guy who has dated and been with a lot of women, I agree with much of what you say. The women who are very active had mental health issues and addictions and are often trading sex for access to other things they need to maintain their daily lifestyle. Basically if they are over 23, Tinder is full of couch surfing alcoholics and druggies that need their drug of choice and a place to camp out for a few days
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 08:41 PM
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I agree with this. I primarily sugar date younger attractive women in their late 20’s and I have been shocked by the number of girls that have been celibate for many months to years. Many ended a bad relationship and are not in a rush to jump into something new. They are focusing on their life and kids if they have them. Many are baddies that you would think were in the streets but they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 08:34 PM
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Wrong. Men need to continue being logical, but they need to stop being apologetic while pretending our views and opinions are equal when they are not. Too many men buy into or fail to challenge female nonsense because they want them to like us and let us have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 07:22 PM
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Seeing that women only seriously date across or up… the guy is above her. She is the one slightly delusional about settling because several men above her have used her as a convenient sex partner. The man you can get commitment from is your level.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 04:52 AM
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I really never had a problem, attracting women at any age but I just stop being attracted to most of them after 35. Not always physically, their personalities change and they complain a lot more than younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 01:17 AM
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For some it is, but none of these middle-aged women are jealous about a fat bald guy. They don’t even see that guy as a viable option
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 01:15 AM
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Generally speaking, the 40+ year old men that attract younger women are among the 10-15% of men that women actually find attractive. That is a fairly small pool they are going after and if a significant percentage of that top 10-15% are dating younger, it makes it much harder for them to get the guys they actually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:42 AM
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Older women hate competition and hate that they no longer get the male attention they have been used to for 25+ years. I don’t pay them any attention but the younger women often notice their stares and comments. Any efforts to gaslight me is a waste of breath as I simply don’t care and never will.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:31 AM
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Are you female? Every guy I know including myself spends significantly less money when single than in a relationship or married. Women typically drive spending decisions in relationships and when they have access to money they spend it. The single men I know with high incomes have a ton of cash saved and do not spend a lot on daily consumer items. They do spend on big ticket items like boats, motorcycles, and cars but they don’t spend on things that would boost the economy daily, I am going to C…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 04:37 PM
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Men are getting 65-70% of stem degrees. 80%+of licensed engineers are men. 40% of female doctors and attorneys quit full time employment within 4 years of licensing. Education is one thing… grinding away at a hard, stressful job for 40+ years is a different story. You are already hearing complaints about the world devaluing education as more women and POC enter college but only the fluff degrees are being devalued.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 12:06 AM
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They are still getting less valuable degrees and blue collar jobs are paying better and better as there is a skilled labor shortage. There will never be a shortage of women with psychology and sociology degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 11:57 PM
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There was a fairly short period of time in my life that I was a giga chad and it changed how I view life. Early/mid 20’s, 6’5, good face, was really ripped at the time. I was playing minor league baseball and in the offseason I was a doorman at a popular night club in Nashville while doing some personal training at a gym. I either slept with or rejected every female co worker at both jobs. Many tried repeatedly. I had a ton of married women throw themselves at me at both places. Stayed away from…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:49 AM
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Nope. Kids are pretty cool but marriage is not
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:07 AM
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At the time we just laughed at ourselves and each other and moved on… but decades later you start thinking “that was kinda messed up.”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:35 PM
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I would be ok with that if we just changed the legal age for everything to 25. Alcohol, joining the army, doing porn, etc. We either protect all young people from dumb decisions or we don’t. I will also say it goes both ways. When I was in college, we lived in an apartment complex with a 39-year-old recently divorced woman named Karen. That was really her name. She was a 5.5 on a good day. Not unattractive but not attractive either. She was predatory going after a bunch of 18 to 20-year-old coll…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 05:18 AM
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Depends. There are school districts in CA paying $150-210k
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 03:28 AM
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Not sure where you live but in my area firefighters regularly make over $200k with over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 05:13 AM
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Men who lack experience should get with a sw and practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:54 PM
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If anything younger women are presented with more options and have more freedom. They have little incentive to settle down with a man that offers little. That being said 10+ year age gap relationships with 18-24 are a little off. Once women hit 25+ they have enough life experience to have similar interests with men that are older.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:51 PM
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I will say that being that guy allows you to learn a lot about female nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:11 AM
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No, but it’s unfair to expect them to settle down and only be with one girl when they suddenly have all of these options. Playing the field when you finally can is not “revenge” though some women may think so
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:58 AM
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“I don’t want to bang you but I would let you fund my life. I think you would cherish me and be a good father.”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 05:57 AM
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You are overthinking this. Women don’t actually want more emotional men. The more attractive and successful you and the less you seek their approval, The less likely they are to leave or cheat on you. The more you seek their favor and show emotion the more likely you are to get your heart ripped out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:49 AM
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You try way too hard. If the woman was worth time and effort before sleeping with her, then you would not suddenly change your mind about that after having sex if it was good.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:53 AM
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Nobody pumps and dumps a girl thats good it bed… just saying. If you make some guy work his ass off for awkward starfish that gives lollipop head, You can’t put the blame on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:59 AM
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I am honest with my son but he did not need much guidance, at 8-10 he could see with his own eyes which men attracted women. Thankfully he will be quite tall but he puts in his own work with push ups, pull ups and “fluffy hair”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:39 AM
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Its funny how older women care so much about what other adults do. Trying to make blanket statements about what a whole generation of younger women want is asinine. They all have different wants and needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:14 AM
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I am a man. I am 45. I date younger women between 25-35. I think grown men over 30 dating 18-22 year olds is creepy. Their brains are not fully developed and they are annoying. You can find attractive and youthful looking women over 25 that have a fully formed brain and can hold a conversation. Leave the little girls alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 11:35 PM
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You can be agreeable without being submissive. There are people that just like to argue and complain. Moreso women than men. They are undesirable partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:10 AM
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Nobody in their right mind would want to date or marry an influencer or podcaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:08 AM
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I’m speaking more about the top 10 to 20% of men who have a lot of options. Quit being lazy and taking lower hanging fruit
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:03 AM
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For sure. But for god sake be picky. Adjustable 6’s are nearly insufferable because men gas them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:02 AM
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I don’t think you have a strong grasp on what a misogynist is. A man hating and mistrusting a specific woman does not make him a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:00 AM
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Yes, top tier men need to be more discerning and not punch below their weight class because its easy. Have you seen some of these gross women that pro athletes are knocking up. Did you see the 5.5/6 that Trevor Bauer lost his $100m contract over? WTF are some of these guys thinking?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:47 AM
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Not all young women are the same. There is HUGE difference between an 18 year old and a 24/25 year old. If thet have spent 6-7 years in the post high school real world they can be just as mature and engaging as a 40 or 50 year old woman. Just as there are 25 year old men that are more put together than many older men. I do question older men who really go after 18-22 year olds, thats immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:42 AM
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We men are to blame for this. We don’t control sex but we control sexual attention and a bunch of you sick bastards will bang anything and tell them whatever it takes to make it happen. Have some self respect and starve mid and lower tier women of attention
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:37 AM
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Accurate but there are a lot of people women in their 30/40’s that want to date younger men. There was a bit of a tiktok blow up this week from 37 year old Kristi Cavalerri from the hills dating a 24 year old in a boy band. I think both sexes value youth and beauty but for whatever reasons most women are unwilling to do it publicly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:23 PM
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The key if you are a bit older and have more money than looks is to not directly tell them you are looking for a one nighter. Honestly until you feel the physical chemistry you don’t really know what you want. You need to be fun and interesting a get them doing things that get adrenaline and endorphins pumping, positive feeling associated with you. Boat/Jet ski, concert, motorcycle or rast ride, sporting event, weekend trip, nice restaurants or fun restaurants, parties, events, hikes, cliff jump…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:36 AM
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You are missing the point. If your spouse is unwilling to meet your needs… they then don’t get to restrict all your other options to have your needs met. Unless you married into a dead bedroom, it is a bait and switch and all bets are off.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:15 AM
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Because if the marriage is otherwise decent, it’s a lot easier to find that outlet elsewhere than to turn your life upside down. Your wife is not delivering as a partner and she knows it… it’s hypocritical of her to get mad at you for getting your needs. Getting married does not doom you to a life of celibacy based on your partners whims and moods. If your partner stopped cooking, would you stop eating and die of starvation? You wouldn’t… you get take out or cook for yourself or whatever. This i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 01:05 AM
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They don’t want you… but they want your time, money and non sexual attention. They know that if another women start sleeping with you, those things are going to disappear. The lose all leverage over you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 01:02 AM
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I buy stun guns and bear spray for my sisters and female friends. If ever concerned about your situation start playing with the stun gun and nobody will get near you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:09 AM
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It takes some training and practice. I practice BJJ and trained women can submit untrained men within 25-30 lbs of them fairly easily. These women are strong, skilled and have good conditioning. This is not like the movies where they dominate but they can control him and win. I agree that if women go all in and present a harder target it would stop many attempts and end some attacks. These weak ass men want to have power over them, and will think twice their face is getting scratched or their ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:07 AM
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I disagree. A girl that is good in bed can keep me entertained for quite awhile. Im a busy grown up, I am not expending a bunch of time and energy for a new girl if the current girl is meeting my needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 12:59 AM
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Women want men that other women want. They prefer a man that has all the options in the world and chooses them but they are realistic. They don’t want a man that will bang anything, they want a man that other women find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:42 PM
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I dated one and it was kind of weird. In the beginning I thought she had to be faking. Since there was no challenge it didn’t feel like much of an accomplishment. It was not as fun. She would also get sensitive after cumming so you would have to go back to kissing and foreplay after literally 4 mins of PIV. By the third orgasm we could finally go long enough that I could finish. I know this sounds like a good scenario but it was not that cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 09:45 AM
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The vast majority of women do not cum from PIV sex. I am on the larger aide of average and it still pays to be skilled with your hands, tongue, toys, etc. Some women cum fairly easily and others require more communication. Getting all wrapped up in your ego thinking women will cum strictly off PIV is probablt going to hurt your love life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 03:36 AM
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Men are practical and will tell you what works. Women will tell you what seems like it might work while painting them in the most positive light. When women see true vulnerability it scares them and they lose attraction. You can only show flashes of vulnerability if someone close to you or a pet dies but even then you have 24-48 hours max.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:56 PM
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Adulting is hard. They get out of college and into a real career and working long hours kinda sucks. Do 25+ 50 hour weeks in a row while a few of your friends are staying at home and making it look appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:30 AM
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They like men with dark triad traits that are nice only to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 03:53 AM
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It is not insecure. There is behavior she single people participate in and those that attached people don’t. Attached people who are happy in their relationship don’t spend time in night clubs. I would be clear that she is free to do whatever she wants but you will not be in a exclusive committed relationship with a girl that spends her weekends clubbing. The ball is in her court, she can behave like a GF or be single, she can’t do both. PS, she will cheat on you if she hasn’t. Nobody is forcing…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:17 AM
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I think more access to a bigger world has made it much more competitive for men. The small town high school football star used to land the prom queen and they would get married and have kids and so on. Now the prom queen makes a few viral tiktoks and you have celebrities, pro athletes and millionaires sliding into her DM’s. I dated a baddie in Northern CA and her DM’s were full of pro athletes and B level celebs. Times are certainly different and the bar for being a “high value” man has never be…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 12:23 AM
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There are a whole lotta dead bedrooms out there. I believe that if one is unwilling to meet their partners sexual and physical needs then that partner is within their rights to get those needs met elsewhere. You have no right to force your partner into celibacy without their consent. Is that “cheating”, I am sure to many it is. I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 07:46 AM
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There are very real consequences to trying to steal another guys girl. Women will do it and might do some passive aggressive battle but some men will try to kill you. I almost got stabbed to death when I was 20 due to a woman failing to mention she was married. If some guy has a beautiful woman good for him. I don’t even mess with women who dated a acquaintance in the past. Too many other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 04:08 AM
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You can but its not easy. My daughter had a few friends in kindergarten whose dads were mid 50’s. I was 35. They did their best but they were run ragged. Now our daughters 15 and these guys are mid 60’s and pretty tapping out and letting their kids run wild. The girls will hitting college right as they should be retiring. You can do whatever you want but you can’t have it all. There are always trade offs
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:57 AM
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They have tells
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:19 AM
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They are emotionally driven and for many women, nice men don’t give them the tingles. They are boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:17 AM
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Its not even more and more, they just lose attraction and respect for you. The saybg goes “if you treat them like a star, they will treat you like a fan.” Real, genuine, accurate compliments are valuable but constant fluffing for no reason just kills your credibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:10 AM
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Simping does not work over time. You can’t feed someone ice cream for 3 meals a day. It quickly is no longer a treat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:01 AM
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A 40 yo woman with kids is not a 10/10. There are no subcategories…. A 10 is a 10 or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 05:33 PM
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Average looking men would need wealth and/or status to land a 10/10. Any other brain busters you need answered?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 05:32 PM
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By definition… outliers are rare. They are… outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 05:30 PM
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Generalizations work minus rare outliers. It is not worth it assume this person or situation is extremely unique and different because they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 06:59 AM
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Age gap relationships are tricky. There is a pretty big difference between a 25+ year old woman and a 18-22 year old woman. Im 45, I like women in their late 20’s that look like women. Fit but curvy. They have been an adult for 7-10 years, have jobs/careers or are in grad/law school. We can have similar interests or be in the same industry, etc. If you are over 25 chasing 18-20 year olds its weird. They have no life experience. Anybody who targets women of any age that look really young are gros…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 05:58 AM
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Is this w serious question? Yes, and as you age it becomes more and more important. Young naive girls may not care about money until they experience the real world. By 26+ they understand that their ideal life is not cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 04:16 AM
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Because women generally don’t treat “the safe option” with a lot of respect or desire. Thats not a very fun place to be so you can’t blame a guy for not wanting to feel like she settled for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:41 AM
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I am in the mid 40’s divorced world and its the opposite, the men are much happier than the women. Might be a little salty about paying a lot of CS and Alimony but overall the men are much happier. Single women in my age bracket are not happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:20 AM
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I have always had unreasonably high standards and it has served me well. The few times I did relax my standards just made me feel gross even if they were not bad. It takes roughly the same time, energy and money to date a 5.5 as it is a 7.5/8.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:51 AM
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There are layers to OF and I think they tend to make more money when they do more. The women that do some lingerie and hand bras have trouble keeping guys renewing. Its the same thing over and over. I suspect some guys could overlook that kind if OF but even that would disqualify a lot of guys. When you have girls shooting BG content she immediately shrinks her dating pool way down to a bunch of fringe dudes that probably don’t care about her a whole lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:09 AM
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87% of real estate deals are done by 13% of the agents. Those 13% are and will continue to do just fine. The rest will struggle and at least half will leave the business in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:19 AM
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I work in real estate with a lot of women who make a lot of money. Those that significantly out earn their spouse or BF do not seem to respect them a whole lot. The one exception is a woman who makes 7 figures and is married to a retired chef. The guy cooks up a storm and has some legit carpentry skills. He is always building something awesome and cooking and helping her with entertaining clients.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 11:51 PM
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College… it is your choice to just go to class and leave. Join a club, ask girls to study, join a fraternity, join a coed intramural team… do something FFS.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:37 AM
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You are making things up. Nowhere and no time has any guy claimed that 90% of women are physically attractive. Your entire post is predicated on false information you fabricated. Why bother with this nonsense?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:02 AM
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The reason you need to work on yourself is because if you are a catch, the opportunities will find you. Married women with throw their single friends and daughters at your feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 03:38 PM
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I have had sugar babies for the past 15 years. They are the most authentic and efficient relationships one can have. I doubt I will even go back to vanilla dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:11 AM
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You act as though “just having money” is easy. While there are some trust fund kids running around the vast majority of people that have money have skills sets that are attractive to the world. There are not a lot of fat ugly slobs with money. It happens, but it is an outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 04:14 AM
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He has to become the kind of guy that women will have casual sex with. That means he has to push his way into the top five or 10%. Even a guy that is born with height and looks still needs some game.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 08:30 PM
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You need to be a more attractive total package than the other guy that is offering the same things at that time. I happen to be a little bit picky, so the girls I like always have other options as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 01:18 AM
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You also need to be ok looking, fun and somewhat generous.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 12:37 AM
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You don’t have to go that wild, some coke and boat will do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 11:47 PM
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Many of us just want to be single or have a FWB. I divorcee and found a sugar baby. Then I found another one. Its perfect. They are around when I want them and not around when I don’t. I make the plans and we do more or less what I want. It really doesn’t cost thar much more than regular dating if you are a successful guy. I highly recommend it. I don’t even look twice at women my age wanting a relationship of any type. The relationships are more open and honest than regular dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:35 PM
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You need to get out more. I see a lot of men that are 7.5/8 married to 6’s. Same with women. I see mismatches all the time. The biggest dating problems come from a victim mentality and a lack of self accountability. If you are fat, lose weight and tone up. If you are ugly, maximize what you have or get surgery. If you are short… be rich. If you are broke… find a way to earn more. If you are bald, shave it off or get a hair transplants. In 2023 you can fix nearly every problem. Quit being a victi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 05:10 PM
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If you think this is one of the worst issues in modern dating, you’re not doing much modern dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 01:25 AM
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Women, try harder, and invest more in their looks. A lot of men to go from average to attractive if they put in the kind of effort that an average woman does.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 11:43 PM
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There are two house husbands in my youngest kids grade. One is gay and the other is married to a wildly successful plastic surgeon. The first few weeks all the moms embraced them. Then the moms got mad because the men made it look easy and made them look bad. The gay dad is probably the best housewife there is and he has still managed to become an accomplished artist. They adopted twin girls at birth and he has them completely dialed in. The other guy does all the housework, cooks. volunteers at…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:40 AM
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Men do what works. We always have… but the explosion of information sharing and social media (often women telling on themselves) has just sped up the learning curve for young men. They no longer have to rely on their own experience or what happens within their small circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 10:35 PM
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Women have a lower libido because men in general are not sexually attractive. If we all looked like Jason Mamoa then magically women would have higher libidos. When I got in shape after my divorce a bunch if women (including my ex) suddenly had a high libido. Funny how that works
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 01:26 AM
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Women don’t give AF about what 99% of men do or don’t do. They only care about the handful of men she is dating, has interest in or has on the back burner. They are more likely to want their friends to be unsuccessful at dating than care about what men in general. If they do not have a good relationship and one of their friends does, they don’t like that..
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 04:22 PM
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Very. It is fairly high up on our hierarchy of needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:11 PM
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Yep, the vast majority of my past relationships have been with petite women. Or tall and thin. Most men don’t understand how concerned with personal safety women are. Especially larger guys. We simply never have to think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:47 PM
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I am 6’5 230 lb and have been told I look like a younger Johnny Sack from the Sopranos. I have wrestled and boxed over the years so I have the nose and ears of a guy that has fought a bit. In the morning I terrify myself. 99% of the general public is intimidated by me until I put on a big smile with a gentle giant vibe. Women are typically not afraid of me and love their perceived power of being with a guy that scares the shit out of everyone else. The same way they will adopt a Pitbull, put a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:38 PM
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Yes. The most valuable information is that nobody owes you anything and you need to build yourself into a desirable man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 06:44 AM
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Some mentally unhealthy women are attracted to creepy and weird. If you combine creepy and weird with dangerous and conventionally attractive… that segment of the female population gets very excited. But yes, for most normal girls creepy and weird means unattractive or socially awkward. Attractive guys can also be creepy, but they have to try much harder. There’s a very good looking guy in my area and in my age range that hits up all the women online, but he creeps them out with 5 paragraph mush…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:26 PM
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If we were unwilling to sleep with women with bad personalities, our species would parish
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 12:48 AM
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This is in the context of approaching women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 05:52 AM
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I worked at a nightclub for several years, and I have probably “saved” 75+ girls from bad situations. That is a very conservative estimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 03:54 AM
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The right guy can do no wrong and the wrong guy can do no right. The end
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 08:20 PM
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I am sort of dating a girl in her late 20’s that is a union plumber. She used to be a hair dresser and is very girly. She got tired of the salon and went into the family business. I thought it wouldn’t last but its been almost three years. She gets up and 4 and hits the job site. Im very impressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 02:28 AM
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Woman say that… until that attention dries up. Women 45/50+ talk about becoming invisible and how different it is from their earlier years when male attention was “cheap”. Its a ego hit and they miss it. At the same time I have a ex that is mid/late 20’s and was contract and sculpture model. 9 face and an 11 body. Even women stare at her. 3m IG followers, etc. She is more than happy to monetize her looks but absolutely hates direct male attention in public. Day to day she looks damn near homeles…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:24 PM
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Those are reasonable goals and expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:51 PM
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I would say with age it is easier to be “above average” as compared to the pool of single men. Be in shape, dress well, have your finances in order, have a good reputation. Women at 40 have different priorities than women at 23. They don’t expect the Disney Fantasy. I don’t think the “transfer of power” is as drastic as RP would suggest but common sense would tell you as the top 10% of men get married off… it is easier to be in the top 10% of single men. When I got divorced at 40 I was kind of o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 11:50 PM
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I don’t think most guys are “worried” about this… it is more of a measuring stick as to where you stand with a particular girl. Men who have never been sexually desirable often think everyone is jumping through hoops. And guys who have always has success with women never knew that women could be so complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:37 PM
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I sugar date for similar reasons. The dynamic is different and you just cut to the chase and get what you want. The relationships are more authentic because nobody has to put up a front. Nobody is expecting more than what was agreed upon. Its very efficient and you build real friendships. Your needs are met and it really doesn’t cost much more than regular dating if you are a successful guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:43 PM
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Exactly. People get lazy in relationships and it’s disrespectful to their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:26 PM
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Maybe I am just in a wealthy area but damn near every divorced couple I know has joint custody and the woman is receiving $3500-8500/mo in CS yet they all Call themselves single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 06:12 PM
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There really isn’t a libido gap… they are just not attracted to you. After a break up their libido will be just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:54 PM
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So you are telling me that every mom that has joint custody and is receiving child support is NOT in fact a single mom? You tell them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:52 PM
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I live in the east bay, and do it with a competent co parent. The thought of having the shack up with someone for financial reasons, and have them around your children is absolutely frightening and that is what you’re suggesting .
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 04:11 PM
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Multiple studies show step parents are detrimental to mental health and happiness. The studies that are pro step parents revolve around better financial situations and stronger discipline. If the single parent is strong financially and provides structure then they are the best option.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:09 PM
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I personally think it is the biggest disservice you can do to your children. I’m divorced and I won’t be dating anyone seriously or remarrying until my kids are functioning adult out of the home. Introducing new romantic partners or getting remarried is selfish and stupid. Raising kids really is a small window of time… focus on them until they are into their twenties and starting their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 10:22 PM
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Age gaps are very subjective. It really depends on the couple and their specific scenario. I am weary of those (common on this sub) who are hyper fixated 18-22 year old girls. I guess if the guy is 24 its ok but if you are a 28+ year old guy it is weird in my opinion. I prefer 25+. Still very youthful and attractive but they have 6-8 years of post high school life experience on which you can have some common experiences and interests. I try to see why they are together. If the girl is in surviva…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:52 PM
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I think a large percentage of women are just bad at relationships in general. Probably a large chunk of men too. I would guess the 80/20 rule applies. Maybe 20% of the female population is willing to embrace the traits necessary to be a great wife and mother. Marriage and parenthood is no joke. You have to be extremely selfless and forgiving to make it work. If you are the type of person that keeps a score board to expect everything to be equal and fair, you will suck at this. I agree that women…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:39 PM
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If you prefer girls who dress more modestly then that is what you should date. They dress how they dress and girls can be attractive and modest at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 11:40 PM
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If you are not a crude asshole then the chances are very very low. If you are not that type of guy then they would not be believed in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 06:19 AM
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In hindsight, a surrogate and a loving grandmotherly Housekeeper/nanny is less expensive than a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 09:40 PM
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It is really easy to spot people that have no real world experience with the opposite sex. You would think they would be humble enough not to start threads
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 02:27 PM
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Only when they are too mean or too nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 08:50 PM
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True. And smart men have stopped trying to cater to them. It is pointless, like digging in quicksand.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:17 PM
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The reality is that men have never done more. Men have never been more active in the house, or with their children in American men are right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 05:51 PM
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OP, you are not very good at this. At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 02:09 AM
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And? Do you blame them? Blame the above average men that go on dating apps and bang a few levels down.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 12:54 AM
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I would say I am indifferent towards them and women view indifference as mean because they are used to special treatment. They are treated as equals just like a man. I don’t go out of my way to help able bodied male strangers. I will politely hold the door or something but thats the extent of it. If someone is in a bad spot, regardless of gender or looks ill help them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 08:11 AM
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Be good in bed. Its not that hard to study up and practice a bit. Figure out what works for most girls. Be a good lover. Most guys are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 07:48 AM
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I knew the Dolan data was wacky Honestly… anybody who answers the phone for a random number and does a phone poll is not normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:45 AM
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Men can’t be delusional enough to lie to ourselves and others. Our world is not forgiving enough to allow us to entertain nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:17 AM
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Agreed. I was young a dumb. Learned a lot from that situation
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 02:28 AM
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My first experience with this situation I was 19 and had moved into my first apartment. I wake up one night to screaming and my downstairs neighbors are out in front fighting. The girl is on her knees getting dragged through the mud by her hair. He holds her hair and smacks her as hards as he can. I run down the stairs barefoot and shirtless only wearing basketball shorts. I am 6’5 and 230 at the time, like 8 inches taller and 50 lbs bigger than he is. I did wrestling and Judo growing up so I hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 01:55 AM
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I was a bouncer for several years and saw a number of good samaritans get stomped into a puddle for trying to intervene in a fight or argument that they were not originally involved in. My involvement is a very case by case basis. I would not sit by and watch some completely innocent party get beaten down but if you were a willing participant… I am not running out into a dark parking lot to get stabbed or shot over a fight you asked for. In a might club or bar setting, I would say at least 80% o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 01:35 AM
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All of your posts are simplistic click bait. This is a very low IQ hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:28 PM
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If you are 20 and “dating to marry” then I would say church.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 10:09 PM
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They didn’t want it enough to track their calories. Im 6’5 and at one point was around 320. Now I’m 230 at 18% body fat at 45. It just comes down to math. Eat less, lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:39 AM
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You are dismissing all personal responsibility and playing the victim, of course it won’t work for you. Anybody can lose weight, it is basic calories in vs calories out. You will never see a picture of a fat person in a POW camp. Everything else is excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:26 AM
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40 guys sending a low effort message is not “chasing them”. In reality they are talking to 3-4 at any given time. Any more than that is unmanageable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:05 AM
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80% have the potential to meet the current definition of above average. 44% of men in the US are overweight. Thats half off the top. Just don’t be fat. Then if you are actually fit, your body is in the top 25%. Then you maximize the rest you are in the top 3rd. Most men dress like shit, have sub par grooming and don’t try to be appealing. Compare the effort of women to men. The average woman puts 200% more effort into her appearance than the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 05:57 AM
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I played major college and professional baseball. Minor league baseball to be clear. I don’t have a model face but I am 6’5 and was ripped at that time in my life. I had literally hundreds of teammates over the years that fit that category and the vast vast majority were not swimming in woman and needed to make an effort. Two were legit Abercrombie models in the early 2000’s. Girls would make it much easier for them to approach but nothing is just handed to you. In college, Out of all the athlet…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 05:42 AM
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50% looks and 50% effort. I know a lot of very attractive guys who are not getting laid regularly because they don’t really try. I also know a lot of ok looking guys that get laid a lot because they put a lot of effort into it and play the numbers game. Nearly everything they do is geared around meeting and sleeping with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:13 AM
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Sounds like an excuse or a crutch. If a man has not Maximized what he has to work with, he had no room to complain about women’s expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 01:43 AM
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Agreed. It doesn’t take a ton of effort to crack the top 3rd in terms of looks. Be in shape, take care of your skin, bright clean teeth, good hair cut, smell good, have a fashionable, upscale age appropriate wardrobe, nice watch, nice shoes, clean and trimmed nails. Be fvckable. Women are not attracted to a lot of guys because a lot of guys are gross and give little effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 01:39 AM
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Yes, thats what I am talking about. Thats why you can walk around LA, NY and Miami wondering why all the beautiful people have ugly kids. There are 15M cosmetic procedures done in the US every year. People are finding a way
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 12:43 AM
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Not true. You can create a jaw line and symmetry. Bucchal fat pad removal. As the saying goes “you are not ugly, you are just poor.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 12:17 AM
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That stuff can be fixed as well, google the swan on YouTube. It’s a show that could never be made today, but they basically remake to people that were ugly into very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 11:08 PM
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I would say 80%+ of men can be above average as a total package if they maximize their body and style. Being in good shape and dressing well with excellent grooming will put you in the top 1/3rd. If we are being honest most guys don’t try very hard. They want women but they don’t make a huge effort to attract them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 10:30 PM
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6, not 7
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 12:36 AM
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Yes the stats are real BUT: Online dating isn’t the real world. It is not set up for an average looking guy to succeed. It is also not really set up for average looking woman to succeed unless you consider having sex with someone slightly more attractive than them a success. I think focusing on this type of data is a crutch so guys don’t maximize themselves and get out there in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 07:16 PM
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We all have a different definition of hard. A lot of men give zero effort. The men who give a lot of effort date a lot even if they are average.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:16 AM
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Agreed. SW’s are a mans best friend. How else does one build experience and confidence. After awhile it is like going into a test with all the answers vs going in cold with no preparation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:28 AM
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I like tastefully done make up and plastic surgery. I think most other guys do as well but don’t always know what they are looking at.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 04:56 PM
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The tiktok/youtube creator whore_math does an incredible job of explaining how this works. For women, men under a 5 don’t even exist. From there they are confused as to their actual ranking, because men well above them will sleep with them. A man that is an 8 will sleep with 6’s and the 6’s mistakenly think that is their level. She thinks a male 6 is a 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 02:30 AM
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To quote the punchline of many jokes “the one with bigger tits”. Seriously, too many variables to answer
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 03:32 PM
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No, its not. Top tier men and women tend to find each other. After that it is just screening for integrity and tools that suggest she would be a good wife and mother while maintaining a good attitude. I think those are the harder tools to find
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 06:45 AM
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Some insta thot I grew up with finally posted her fiancé who she has supposedly dated for 6 years. The girls been posting thirst traps for a decade and entertaining attention. She hid him because she would less attention if guys knew she was taken, Her poor fiancé is a blue collar dude with no social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 06:23 AM
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Men generally don’t leave because they have a stiff financial penalty for doing so. Women are generally on the receiving end so have more incentive to leave if unhappy. Hence, women filing for divorce 80%’ish of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 05:32 AM
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Aka “conditional”. If it was 100% out of his control, (mass google/Meta/Twitter layoff) he is a high earner with a robust savings and he is quickly lining up his next job… then she can still love and respect him. Now… god forbid he made a mistake (gasp) and doesn’t have a large safety next and he can’t immediately replace his income, he is unworthy of love and respect and can expect to be divorced within the year. Even faster if he is acting weak or emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 05:04 AM
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If men had the same “what have you done for me lately” standards a lot of women would be discarded in their 50’s. The number 1 predictor of divorce is the man losing his job and remaining unemployed for over 4 month.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 02:57 AM
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Conditionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 02:47 AM
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If the man loves her… he loves 1000% harder. Women’s love is very conditional on how you make them feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 02:43 AM
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There are certainly deadbeat dads that run from their responsibility, specifically when they view the mom as low value. I would say thats about 30%. The vast majority want more time but can’t get it because giving up time on paper = less money for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 05:56 PM
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Doesn’t matter how anyone feels, the man needs to lead or the relationship has ZERO chance of lasting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 11:24 PM
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I have found that the “half your age plus 7” rule is fair an accurate. While it is ok for a 40 year old man to be visually attracted to an 18 year old, it a bit off to seek out a serious LTR with one. I think it opens up a bit after a woman is over age 25. She has been out of HS for 7 years and has gained life experience. There are situations where she could connect with and have similar interests to a guy that is 20+ years older. They can work in the same industry and have the same interests. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:25 PM
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What you heard is inaccurate. As a man, when you hit a certain income level, all dating is sugar dating. You are spending the same amount of money so you might as well date younger and hotter. The only people that don’t understand how this works is broke men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:14 PM
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Contrary to popular opinion… and as can be seen in a lot of reddit SW subs, not all SW’s hate you or are disgusted by you. If you are polite, hygienic, respectful and generous they tend to like you. Don’t be disgusting. Its easy. Whatever industry we are in, we have customers that we like more than others, and some that we hate. Being a SW is no different.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 01:46 AM
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Use sugar dating websites. If you are a financially successful guy… all dating is sugar dating so you might as well get exactly what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 01:40 AM
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I am more into what feels right in the moment. Some girls want that and others don’t want to be touched after a good orgasm. I have sex a lot and with a lot of pretty young girls, my ego left the situation long ago. Its just about relaxing and having fun. They tense up if you try to force things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 11:30 PM
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Girls that cum very easily are not enamored with you for making them cum… because they cum easily. Its just what happens with fairly minimal stimulus. Its kinda boring. Now if you can take a girl that rarely or never cums with other people and give her a leg shaking orgasm… she will be enamored with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 11:15 PM
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Where is the challenge in that? Learn her body and her triggerpoints and then it’s your decision when she has an orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 06:03 PM
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Because women think they are “settling” for men that are at or above their level. They don’t go below their level but they think they are. There is a creator named hoe_math on tiktok and youtube. He does an incredible job of explaining and illustrating this. Don’t be turned off by his name, he is pretty fair and unbiased.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 06:03 AM
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Zero. There is zero incentive to be what girls say they want. Do the opposite and you will have much more success
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 05:31 AM
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“According to the research, within six years of completing training, 22.6% of women physicians were not working full-time compared to 3.6% of male physicians. The gap between men and women expands for those with and without children (30.6% versus 4.6%)”. - 2018 Survey of American Physicians.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 05:11 AM
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6-7%
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 09:03 PM
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There are 100 other stories I could use if you’d like. The fact is that 40% of female MD’s, JD’s and Engineers do not work full time or quit in short order. Thats the data
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 10:18 PM
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The narrative that they are happier when single was pushed by a two studies published by a “happiness expert” from Penn State and a brit that was a consumer analyst. The media took this fluff and ran with it. They stated that the “healthiest and happiest population subgroup are women who never married or had children.” Of course, that group tends to skew younger and mor care free. Throw that same study at 40+ year old women and the results are likely to be different. This hypothesis was based on…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 10:11 PM
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I assure you know the details, i put an ex wife through law school only to have her complain for 3 years then quit. Its common. Very common. When hiring Big Law plans for it. Same with my doctor friends. You can try to spin it however you want but 4/10 do not do the career they invested significant time and money into because it wasn’t how they pictured it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 10:06 PM
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https://www.aamc.org/news/why-women-leave-medicine https://www.reuters.com/legal/legalindustry/dont-blame-baby-survey-finds-most-women-quit-big-firms-over-culture-not-family-2022-07-21/ The gist is that they are quitting because they can. They married another Dr or Lawyer and have grown weary of the schedule. They blame it on work culture but thats just another way to say you don’t like the hours and expectations. I totally understand. I bet the men would love to be able to quit and do something…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 09:54 PM
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High performing women do… but they have painted themselves into a corner because they only want men superior to them yet still treats them like they are the prize. Do you see how thats hard for them to find?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 09:38 PM
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40%+ of female lawyers, doctors and engineers quit the profession within 4 years of licensing. They don’t like the day to day grind of working in high performing jobs. They like the status bur hate having to execute for 40+ years
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 09:21 PM
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And as much as women love to complain about how little their husband does… men have never been more involved with their kids in the history of the planet. I am a divorced/Single dad with 50/50 every other week. When I go to back to school night, 90% of the dads are there. At pick up and drop off it it is 50/50. When coaching sports or doing other extra curricular activities it is 90% dads. At a recent soccer coaching clinic there were 77 dads and 3 moms. When I am out and about on the weekends I…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 09:19 PM
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10% have women fall in their lap, 10% are desirable but have to work at it. 50% have to create a lot of value to find someone 30% basically don’t exist in the eyes of women. They are non sexual entities
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:28 AM
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My 02 cents. Im very financially successful and I did the whole SAHW and kids thing. If i could go back I would want a partner with a career but a flexible schedule. Teacher, part time marketing, notary, personal training, realtor, etc. Everyone needs an outside purpose and I feel like SAHM’s kinda lose their marbles. Moat people are not wired for it. I ended up paying for a lot of extra help in the form of preschools, nannies, maids, laundry service, take out, etc. She could not handle the hous…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 10:09 PM
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And it is ok to have work friends that are not intertwined with your “real friends” and your real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:38 AM
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How ugly are you? If you are average it does not take a ton. If you are really ugly it takes more. At what age? Really young or on the older side are easier to impress.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:32 AM
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Be friendly with everyone, befriend nobody.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 12:39 AM
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You are trying to compare young, attractive and thin to older, unattractive and thin. The comparison you are missing is older, unattractive and thin vs older, unattractive and fat. That makes you virtually invisible. Non existent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 04:58 AM
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They are not taken seriously. You play along until you sleep with them but no wise man wants to marry a woman that believes in crystals or essential oils.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 03:46 AM
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I get that and am slightly jealous. Once you have had the bar set really high it is hard to settle and it is a carnal thing and not just doing specific acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 01:29 AM
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As someone who had had a lot of sexual partners, there is a threshold where you know she is decent in bed and you like her but its just not something that would satisfy you in a long relationship. With few partners you don’t really know what you are missing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 01:12 AM
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Sounds like shes a 6 that hooked up with a 9 who wasn’t interested long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 01:10 AM
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There are levels to “good or not” and sometimes decent isnt good enough for a long term arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 01:06 AM
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Be desirable and pleasant to be around. Be great at sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 05:58 AM
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Apparently trying to be a reasonably desirable partner makes you a pick me and giving zero effort and being bitchy is somehow empowering? And then you’re unimpressed by the type of guy that will take that abuse for two months before getting anything in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 10:22 PM
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💯 true about the biggest bullies being women. Men can fight it out… women generally resort to bullying and character assassination. They are way more ruthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 02:28 AM
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It depends how desirable the guy is. The more desirable he is the less woman care about those details.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 02:26 AM
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You cant possibly know what she eats. You cant be in a calorie deficit and carry a 30+ BMI. Her diet has do be a mess. There is a reason why most NFL linemen lose a ton of weight after they retire… and thats because it takes effort to maintain that much mass.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:21 PM
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Antidepressant consumption amongst single women would suggest that perhaps they are not as happy as they report to be. Antidepressant use amongst adults living alone is 80% higher than the regular population. Women’s consumption doubles men and grows as they age. Im 44 and divorced and most the women running around in my age group look happy online but in real life they are very messy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 12:19 AM
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Or make yourself as attractive as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:23 PM
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They want attention from men they find attractive… not all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:51 PM
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You are only obligated to do your best to provide for yourself and your children. Thats it. I interview often and have plenty of single moms want a lesser role because earning more will affect how much she gets from the ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 06:53 PM
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When the youngest is 13, there are no excuses. Im a single dad and have my kids every other week 100% and i still have pick ups and drop offs. You can work around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 06:50 PM
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The amount of divorced women i run across that don’t work full time pretty crazy. Many burn through their settlement money in a year or two then limp along doing a some what flexible jobs. Mlm, realtor, etc. Then as the kids are aging out these women have to grind to create income. The men were grinding from the start and then when the kids age out he can really stack his money. When men and women work the same hours they make the same money
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 06:18 PM
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I don’t recall anybody saying that women violence is tied to their infidelity . They are the partner that usually files and the man is often financially ruined. Infidelity on her part just adds insult to injury
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:41 PM
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Something like 80% of people rate themselves as above average in attractiveness. Mathematically that’s not possible. Women do not do themselves and others any favors when they gas each other up and tell each other they’re super beautiful no matter what
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:44 PM
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It can be both. Women in general can be picky, entitled and delusional and the man can also be the problem if he is making zero effort to meet the standard and has an issue with ALL women. What women want and what the end up with are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 05:36 PM
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I think a lot of people overestimate how lonely men are, and how much they really wanna woman. The guys I know that put forward any effort on themselves, and On women end up with women. Those that don’t put forward any effort, don’t really want a woman. Women over 30 are really not that picky, even the pretty ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:52 PM
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I have a masters degree in psychology and I am BP1. It runs in the family. Education is very helpful but 100% adherence among those that are bipolar is very very very low. We can go into the details as to why they do what they do but that matters little when you are a man looking for a wife. He is not looking to pay the price for all the men she was with prior to him. Thats not his job.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:29 AM
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https://www.healthyplace.com/bipolar-disorder/relationships/bipolar-in-marriage-can-it-work#:~:text=According%20to%20a%202003%20study,bipolar%20disorder%20end%20in%20divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:12 AM
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It really shows how internally ugly many of these western women are going after foreign women. The western women are uneducated and rarely travel when they automatically assume foreign women are poor and desperate. There is a lot of ugly American arrogance that is unjustified
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:22 AM
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Non adherence is extremely high in those disorders. The chances of having a happy and stable marriage to someone with BP or BPD is very, very slim. BP divorce rates are nearly 90%. Divorce rates for BPD are not as high but they are miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:41 PM
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There is a point where it goes from just a fun loving open minded girl to a situation where its a sign of mental illness, lack of impulse control, high risk tolerance, etc. Extremely promiscuous people tend to have mental issues, that includes both sexes. I only really would care about a woman’s sexual past if I was vetting her for a long term relationship or marriage. Its very common with women with BPD or bipolar
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:38 PM
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I’m from an area in Northern CA with a heavy eastern European population and I have heard the same from the women. They strongly prefer American men. I do know a handful of Ukrainian women with kids that remarried to Indian men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:26 PM
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As I said, you are very young. When you are 45… the statements i have made will make much more sense to you. Woman change much more dramatically… physically and emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:22 PM
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I have Polish, Ukrainian, Romanian and Armenian friends in the US that very much sing the praises of women in their own country.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:20 PM
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In the international dating market you would drastically wrong. American men are quite sought after and the women typically are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:14 PM
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This surprises nobody. 20+ years ago in college I did a semester abroad in Spain with 90’ish kids from different schools within the University of California system. At first the American girls were baffled that the men in Europe were not that into them. Italians pour it on everybody but the Spanish, French and Portuguese guys had little interest. I remember one night in Porto Portugal where we walked into a club and it was full of Brazilian, a Portuguese and Moroccan women. After 30 minutes the …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:12 PM
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Men are simple. We typically want the same things from 15-90. A guy that loves sports or fishing or whatever will not just change. Women change a lot. You can try to argue it but a 50 year old post menopausal women is nothing like she was at 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:40 AM
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Can, can, can… most men don’t. Like it or not they are the weaker sex and are more strongly effected by stress. Women limbic area of brains, which control emotions and memories, are highly active. It makes it difficult to forget a bad incident and negative emotion. Women are not really good at letting go of a situation, their brain keeps on replaying the same event again and again, which drags out resolution. Women limbic area of brains, which control emotions and memories, are highly active. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 12:47 AM
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Because hormones, stress, many overthink everything, self induced pressure to be perfect, wired for high level of anxiety, higher depression levels, weight gain, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 12:14 AM
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Women change much more than men do. The woman you marry is drastically different than the woman you are married to 15 years later. Men get married praying their wife will not change and women get married hoping their husband will.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:53 PM
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Nobody owes you anything. In turn, you don’t owe them anything either. One of my favorite sayings is “behavior rewarded is behavior repeated”. Once I learned to be very direct in what I want and started only rewarding behavior that met my needs… my results got a lot better. One of my other favorite sayings is “the longer you entertain that which is not for you… the longer you postpone what is.” If a woman is not enthusiastically willing to provide the type of relationship I want from the start… …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:27 PM
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No. Men lose respect and get laughed at when women screw them over. Women constantly “get fooled” by men. Over and over and Over again they get fooled and it’s the man’s fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:05 AM
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It’s kinda like make up, hair, nails, etc. at a certain point it flips from a positive to a negative. A female attorney is by far the least attractive dating option ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:05 PM
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Im 44. The women I date range from 25-33. I prefer younger women for a multitude of reasons but I have zero desire to date teenagers. I have found that 25 is about perfect. They have been out of HS for 7 years and have some life experience. They have real jobs. You can have similar interests with a 25 year old. They are youthful and playful and sexy. I don’t feel that way about teens. They may look great but the conversations are painful. I think you have maturity issues if you are a grown man o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:01 PM
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I believe this. Even attractive, intelligent and financially stable men have to put in significant effort to find and maintain connections with desirable sexual partners. At a certain point it is too much work and not enough reward for highly intelligent people if they are not seeking marriage and a family. Might be an unpopular opinion but this is why sec workers are such an attractive option. You get sex how/when/where you like it with minimal distraction and a fixed expense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:54 PM
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I have a top 1% income but I live in the SF Bay Area so my life style is not over the top. Most younger single women have no idea what things cost. Like way way off one way or another. They either think things are very cheap or way overblown on what it takes to live. I have “mini yacht” and one is my lady friends wanted to borrow it for a girls day. She said she would pay for the fuel and the captain/crew for the day. I said ok. For what she was wanting to do it would cost about $5200. She thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:54 PM
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Women are the same. They want a man with status. Status can mean different things to different women but don’t mistake that for women wanting different things. They all want the same thing, status. The good news for men is that you have multiple avenues to gain status. If you are not a prototypical Chad there are other ways. I have seen 5’3” jockeys with beautiful wives and 5’6” 140 lb MMA fighters with packs of women. Or obese guys with charisma pulling attractive women. Have you seen Jelly Rol…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:20 AM
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I dated a volleyball player in college that was 5’11 and 160z. Yumi Nu is nowhere near 160 lbs. Her weight has a 2 in front of it. That’s fine, but don’t spread misinformation. I was a bouncer for 5 years and can guess Ages very accurately. There are definitely petite and youthful looking women over 30, but they are in the minority Less than 20% of the population. Also most men are conditioned to be nice. We politely say 5-7 years younger than we think the woman are. When I was honest… and right…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 06:56 AM
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Men are also more similar than different. Humans behave like humans. Expecting differently is foolish.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 05:02 PM
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Just don’t do it for real and give them the occasion hint of faux emotions. Any real emotion will be turned against you or spun into you hurting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 09:04 PM
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There are multiple studies showing the more house work a man does the less often he gets laid. Sad but true. Women do not respect men that can be turned into a maid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:38 PM
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I don’t know any men that are jealous of women or would want to trade places. Hormones, physical female issues, elevated emotions… no thanks. It does not look very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 05:46 PM
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Hahahahaaahhh… you think there are “types of women.” They are all much more similar than different.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 10:04 PM
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You can ditch the dating market and still get laid a lot. Even the top tier guys have to put in some level of effort in the dating world and it gets old. Once you have built up an decent roster you can stop trying completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:06 AM
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They are attracted to dark triad traits. You can have dark triad traits without being “toxic”.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 04:11 PM
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They exist but they are typically invisible by choice
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:08 AM
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Ask Butch lesbians, how easy it is to date women. Or listen to those woman who went undercover as a man. https://www.youtube.com/live/r32fU0OULDo?feature=share
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:27 AM
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Sex is a human need AND you have no right to someone else’s body… BUT if you are in a committed monogamous relation and you won’t willingly meet your partners sexual needs… you are a controlling A hole and you should cut them loose so they can find happiness. Forced celibacy is a cruel and unusual punishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:55 PM
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Women blame beauty standards on men while promoting Beauty standards that most men don’t care for. Long nails, caterpillar eye lashes, contouring, bbl’s, lip injections, Botox, etc. I don’t know any men that like any of it. Y’all are doing that for each other, not for men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:07 AM
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Behavior rewarded is behavior repeated. You won’t change women as a whole but you can effect your woman’s behavior. Enforcing boundaries and rewarded positive behavior is incredibly effective if the person likes you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 06:18 PM
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Correct. We can all whine and complain about how most woman want 10% of the men but the reality is that for most men… you can work and fight your way into that top 10% because 80-90% of men are very low effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:59 AM
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Rule number 1: be attractive. Rule number 2: Don’t be unattractive. This does not give you a free pass, because nearly any man can work hard and overcome one or two shortcomings. One or two… not 5 and and you need some glaring strengths to overcome the shortcomings. You can be short and bald… if you are rich and charismatic with high status (like Joe Rogan). You can been small, skinny and weird looking… but if you have charisma and status like Steve Aoki you can be swimming in women. You can hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 11:29 PM
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My point is they don’t find them “hot enough”. I’m 6’5, the women I date would have little interest in Tom Cruise or Zac Effron despite them being on many of the “hottest” lists. Jason Mamoa would be a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:59 PM
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Nope. Girls vary more than you think they do. There are many more cultures and sub cultures that do not value the same things in men. Just like not all men find the same type of women attractive. Selena Gomez is consistently rated in the top 100 most beautiful women and I would say she’s a 6 on her best day.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:50 PM
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Anytime someone is talking about a subjective, non-physical trait, you can assume they also want the person to be physically attractive… within their frame of attractive. A nerdy girl will have a different dream guy than a female fitness competitor or a biker chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:14 PM
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I don’t think women are being dishonest, but you have to be attractive enough for them to wanna give you the opportunity to show how smart you are. I’m very attracted to women with different accents. Southern, Australian, British, tall blondes with South African accents… they really do turn me on. But a 300 pound woman with a great accent is not attractive to me. It can turn a six into an eight in my eyes, but they still have to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:07 PM
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I have several female friends that I have maintained a friendship with after they entered into serious relationships. The relationship changes and it becomes more of a text/DM communication and you are not meeting for drinks or going on trips together. Most of these women I have had a sexual relationship with at some point and we just didn’t click well in that way but they are cool people. I don’t think they share that part with their current partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 07:18 PM
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44 I like women in their mid/late 20’s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:32 PM
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I am a bit passed my “hot guy” days but I am 6’5 attractive, I played pro baseball and worked at night clubs in the offseason. Working at a night club certainly changed how I viewed women. I saw so many innocent looking cheaters
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 01:52 PM
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Definitely. I am amazed that experienced adults would go into a lifelong commitment with any lack of clarity on such an important topic. I am also baffled at people they get married while having a dead bedroom in their relationship. That’s insanity
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 08:55 PM
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Yeah, sex within marriage is kinda weird and made to be overly complicated. At least in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 08:35 PM
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The point is that “if she won’t do this with you but has done it before then you are a beta chump” and that’s a childish view from a insecure person who has not been with many women. People try things and don’t like them, so they don’t do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 06:37 PM
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This. There are girls that love it. If it’s important to you then find one. Doing anal with girls that are not really into anal is not that fun unless you are into hurting people. In that case get some help
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 06:35 PM
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Not trying to brag or anything but my dick is well above average, length and girth. A girl needs to really be into anal sex, do training, use larger toys, etc for things to work. I am sure I have dated girls that had anal sex with smaller guys that didn’t want to try it with me. Unless a girl has experience and is really into it I don’t even want to try. Crying isn’t sexy to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 06:20 PM
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You say that like it is a good thing. That means 30% of the fathers that fight for custody get nothing… do you understand how many men that is fighting, usually paying both attorneys fees… and getting no rights. The number should be more like 95% getting 50/50. In a fair and just world.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 04:56 AM
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Women are not trying to date their equals, they want to date up. They don’t want 50/50. They want to not work when they have children or at the very least they don’t want their income to be needed for the household budget. This means women that make a decent living and have a decent career want a man a few levels above that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:15 AM
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I will still balance my 5 years and probably hundreds of thousands of people with ID’s against anything else. Not everyone coming in drinks or does drugs. The original question is asinine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:48 PM
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Some approach but most just make it very easy for you to approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 03:24 AM
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Do you know why the military uses 18-22 year old boys to do their dirty work? Do know why they have a 4 year minimum? It’s not because they are mature and make great decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:13 PM
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Because they are very short sighted. I know a lot of doctors paying high alimony to slutty ex wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 09:22 PM
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We are different. As I said, I worked at a popular nightclub in San Francisco, I’ve seen tens of thousands of IDs or more. I was never intentionally mean but I humbled hundreds of women by correctly guessing their age. “Oh you are not going to card us?” “No mam, you are 34 years old.” You can’t tell, I can. I never said they were wrinkly, I said that I could tell they were not 23.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:02 PM
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You can still tell they are in their 50’s and not their 20’s. The skin on the back of their hands and neck are the giveaway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 02:35 PM
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18 years olds are still children. Most still in HS and living at home with their parents. They are not legitimate dating targets for older men. 24/25 is different. They have been out of high school for 7 years and lived a little. They are still youthful and beautiful. Since my divorce I dated between 20-40… twenty is even too young. 25-28 is perfect. 35+ is kinda jaded and miserable. Leave the little girls under 22 alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 01:49 AM
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The right guy can do no wrong and the wrong guy can do no right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 05:15 PM
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Sadly, this is the answer. Approach her and you will quickly find out if she finds you attractive or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 02:45 PM
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Can you provide a link so we know exactly what you are talking about. I’m not finding it. In general they come across as very angry. It’s one thing to see and understand human/female nature and it’s another thing get irrationally angry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 05:03 AM
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Men who have the options (rich and famous) choose younger women because nearly all men find younger women more attractive. The “can’t handle a grown women” is passive aggressive fluff spouted by older women trying to guilt men into accepting their baggage and foul attitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 05:13 AM
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It’s important. The only lower income men that do well on dating apps are personal trainers and military. A good looking doctor or lawyer has more matches than he can handle.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 05:02 AM
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YNo. It’s a pointless question. WTF would want a 23 year old that looked 40? Nobody
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:59 AM
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Where are these silly questions coming from. 40 year old women that look 23 don’t exist and 23 year olds that look 40 don’t exist. Their skin is different, how they dress, talk and move. All these women think they look ten years younger because we lie to you… or don’t correct you when you claim everyone mistakes you for being way younger. I was a bouncer for 5 years and out of tens of thousands of ID’s I was truly surprised about 3 times.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:57 AM
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He is the problem with a “smart man”. Unless you are close to the same level it is very hard for him to take you seriously and treat you as an equal for serious topics and situations. Sounds cold but it’s true. And don’t over value your “street smarts” because they don’t make you equal to a guy with a 160 IQ that’s a high performer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 06:11 AM
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I agree this is creative writing because people don’t just “change back” like that. You should know by now that men and women are held to different standards. If a man has mental illness, loses his job, gains a bunch of weight and lays around the house doing nothing all day women feel 1000% justified in leaving him, not having sex with him, etc. It’s on him to “fix it” and fix it fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 04:41 PM
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She loved him but was not terrible broken up when he passed. It was time. He was 16 years older and quite the handful. She was every bit of the housewife/mom and partner doing her best to make him look good. He passed when she was 55. She lived another 30+ years and was very happy to do whatever she wanted. He left her in great shape financially. Funny story: for as long as I could remember my grandma ate plain cheerios with a banana for breakfast. I was 35 at the time so it was at least my enti…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:02 AM
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Yes. A lot of women have a guy or two in their life that they would drop everything if he told her what she wanted to hear. I have three of these and I go no contact with them when they are in relationships. There is one girl that is my kryptonite and I will not interact with her if I am not single. The second a relationship ends, she is my first call. My ex wife and any of my GF’s that has laid eyes on her know instantly that she is a threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 02:04 AM
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When I got divorced and hit the dating market, I was absolutely shocked at how many women in their 30s had been hiding out in school forever trying to hide from the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 07:09 PM
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We most certainly do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:35 PM
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You are not a man and do not understand male relationships. Smart men get support from their friends or professional therapists and show their women zero weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 06:34 AM
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There are a lot of female professional students. It looks good on paper but in reality they are not contributing a whole lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:29 AM
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Agreed, that is why I said women seem ok being single. Occasionally they break down but they don’t want a man, they want a fictional character than can check off 100 boxes. I know a lot of single men that are very happy. Guys that were married or had LTR’s so it’s not that they couldn’t. They just don’t want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:57 AM
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Correct, when we are young. But you realize as men age and get control of themselves women lose their power.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:53 PM
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Tate has like 4.5M followers. There are 3.97 billion men on the planet. Selena Gomez has nearly 100X more followers than Tate. Does that mean young women are seeking guidance and life advice from Selena Gomez? Is she the most powerful voice or women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 09:07 PM
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Women have never offered less and demanded more. Which is why more and more of them are just gonna be single and they seem to be OK with that. That’s fair. My problem is when they try to tell Men what men should want. They fail to understand their opinions on that topic are worthless. We like what we like.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:43 PM
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The actual number of men that are paying money for this type of coaching or mentorship is next to zero. Like 0.00001%. It’s not even worth discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:29 PM
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No, pair bonding is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 05:30 PM
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This will sound weird but only if they have already hooked up. I had a FWB with a male best friend that she dated before they just turned into friends like 8 years before. She said she sex was really awkward and bad but he’s a cool guy. They had a brother sister vibe. Had I started to date her seriously I don’t think it would have bothered me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 05:03 AM
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I live in CA in a very diverse area and I can say the happiest married guys I know have wives Mexico, South America, Iran, Ukraine or Asia. The men that married Becky’s have regretted it, including myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:45 PM
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I think dating apps and social media are a bigger part than you are suggesting. For the most part women do not like to pursue and potentially get rejected. In the past they would see a man they were very attracted to at school, at work, the gym or in a club and they could visually see their competition throwing themselves at these men so they would hang back. With online dating and social media they can make themselves available to these men in a less threatening way. This leads to more shy 6’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 07:12 AM
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As someone who just naturally has a very large volume for some unknown reason… most women are not particularly excited about it. They are not turned off but not really excited. More of a surprise even with warning. Like “whoa, whoa, whoa, you were not kidding.”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 04:41 AM
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This about what you offer a date if sex is not involved. Are you a better option than our friends. Are you more fun and more entertaining? Do you pay every other time like our friends do. Do you do things for the guy or do you primarily take and talk about yourself? Even most lesbians will agree that dating women is harder and less rewarding.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:53 AM
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Mrs Perfect doesn’t have a body high body count
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 09:02 PM
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My ex wife was not a fan of my private investments until we filed for divorce and there were more assets than she expected. She was so bad with money I could not give her access to everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 08:06 AM
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You have to think about what types of women that are willing to go on the show for the sake of exposure…. They are stupid and arrogant. A smart woman would not want to be on the show, it’s a no win situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 04:23 AM
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You continue to make statements with zero backing. Please provide one shred of evidence that women out perform men in math overall. I deal in facts. The facts point to men outperform women overall in math and hard sciences. Seven of every eight people in the top 1% on IQ tests are men. That’s a fact. Men dominate to the top and the bottom of the intelligence ladder. The average man and woman are roughly equal but at the top 1%, it’s dominated by men. The bottom is also dominated by males. https:…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:56 PM
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It is only low level because you are completely fabricating your position. They is no data suggesting women score higher and a ton of data that men do. This is like 1 of 1000 reports with the same https://www.aei.org/profile/mark-j-perry/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:40 PM
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What do you consider advanced math? High school grades are very subjective. What are the SAT/ACT and AP final scores? What percentage of men vs women do you see in a multivariable calculus class at your typical University? My experience was 80%+ male
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:18 PM
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Honestly it is hard to just throw out a comprehensive list… but we know it when we see it. How they dress, walk, speak, etc. A woman has “it” or they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 12:30 AM
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Agreed. Life is not fair or equal. Some people need to try harder. It is what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 02:52 PM
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I am 44, Divorced with two kids and I plan to retire and possibly remarry in another country. Likely Portugal or Costa Rica but I have not ruled out Argentina, Colombia, the Philippines or Thailand. I am in the top 5% in income and assets in the US. I am 6’5” tall. I played college and professional baseball. I rate out at a 6-6.3 on the various anonymous rating apps. I do not have a problem dating attractive women my age in the US. I cringe at the term “high value” but I meet or exceed the defin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 09:32 PM
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That original post is about this. If it bothers you then move along
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 10:04 PM
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You are misreading my posts if you think I am impressed by a woman bragging about being an adult and paying basic bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 09:57 PM
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Usually nothing is needed to spark a rant about how independent she is and how that should be desirable to men. They are such a catch because they are functioning adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 05:14 PM
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It’s my pet peeve. They act like being a competent adult is a big deal. It’s like… congrats on paying for car insurance boss babe, you are killing it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 03:56 AM
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Ruggedly handsome is a more common comment
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 01:38 AM
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The average man scores 30 points higher on the SAT than the average woman. Math related jobs are 75%+ male. There is no objective measure suggesting both genders are equal at math.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 06:50 AM
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Yes. Mostly because women try harder. In terms of online dating women market themselves much better with unrealistic flattering pictures while guys pose with a fish. No special lighting, no make up, no filters. Women are so good at online presentation that they are a let down in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 06:47 AM
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Men have allowed women to frame what behavior society deems good and what is bad. That was a huge mistake. When women get the man who they say they want… that communicates a lot and talks about feelings and emotions… they quickly don’t want him. Pop off off with the
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 08:18 PM
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That is correct… but the top is all that really matters. That is who moves the needle. Compare the top 25% of women to the top 25% of men and the gap will be wider.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 08:14 PM
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They didn’t study 15 year olds only… 15 is the age where the sexes when from scoring equally to men being consistently higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 07:53 PM
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Objectively, men over the age of 15 have an average IQ score 5 points higher than women in the general population. In a university population the gap is larger. Objectively, boys score 30 points higher on the math portion of the SAT. Objectively more men pass the Bar exam on their first try. And of course all of this is case by case and subject to outliers but we shouldn’t have to pretend everyone is equal when that’s not factual
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 09:14 PM
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Elephants are exceptionally smart but this isn’t a very good argument. Comparing apples and oranges
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 08:22 PM
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“When brain size is covaried” is what blows up the theory that we are similar. We are not physically equals. Men’s brains on average are 10% bigger. Now it’s not politically correct for scientists (that want to keep their funding) to say that on average men have more brain mass and that allows for some better brain function but it is. Men are better at math, overall. They are better at almost everything that is objective and measurable. Everything from SAT’s to jeopardy champions. Women are ofte…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 09:34 AM
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Men show greater down-regulation of left amygdala, as evidenced by greater decreases when using cognitive regulation. This means men have more control over their emotions and reactions. Women are less mentally and physically strong so they are more prone to mental and physical breakdowns. Women suffer more stress than men because their response to stress is different. Women have a completely different hormonal system, which as a result causes them to react more emotionally and become more exhaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 09:16 AM
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The CAN love unconditionally, kids and dogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 05:44 AM
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You used to be competing with a few chads in your town within 3-5 years of your age range. They had to meet, talk, he had to make an effort to pursue. Now you are competing with every Chad within 100 miles who is a DM away
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 02:51 AM
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People are just way more open and fun when you are traveling. You do stuff you would not normally do and you don’t know why. I recently went on a trip to Tamarindo Costa Rica and we stayed at a hotel in the middle of town. It had a cool pool so we threw impromptu pool parties 3 nights in a row. Walked through the bars on the beach inviting people, bought a few cases of Imperial, got some music going and one of the street vendors selling chicken skewers rolled his rig up to the pool for food. All…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 10:05 PM
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My advice then is to travel
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 07:35 PM
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I’m saying we need to deal in reality. If you are not good enough… you need to make yourself better. It’s doable. Even in your example of a nerdy butter face… she has to build ie buy a Thicc ass to get attention. She has to put in some sort of work. The vast majority of attractive people over 23 have to work fairly hard at it. Gym, skin care, dental care including whitening, current and maintained hairstyles, they pay attention to fashion, etc. It doesn’t just happen for them, they put in effort
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 04:55 PM
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Then become a better version of yourself. Look at someone like Kevin Creekman. He transformed himself from a chubby slob to a giga Chad that women drool over. The guy was a sloppy 315 pounds with awful style. He did a 180 and flipped that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 04:36 PM
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I’m in my 40’s and financially very well off but I still occasionally do a double take at how much things cost. A very generic first date is $150-200. Nice dates are double that. I could not have pulled that off 3-4 times a month in my early 20’s. These young guys have it rough.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 06:29 AM
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They don’t even see the bottom 50% of men as existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 03:49 AM
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This is the perfect response.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 09:14 PM
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As the world gets smaller with remote work you will see more men migrating to areas where things are more in their favor. One would imagine a average western guy with a mid level tech job would be quite the catch in Poland, Hungary, Romania, Moldova with about 10M female refugees settling into those countries. You can easily apply the Blue Ocean Strategy to dating and marriage. Being able to make a good living in dollar or euros working remote is a game changer for the average young man. Why fig…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 07:08 AM
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They completely ignore what he says and try to recreate an alternate relationship in their brain. The mental gymnastics has to be exhausting
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 06:54 AM
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You think women are true friends and actually like each other? If there are more than 2 of them… it’s not the case. This goes back to men embracing reality and knowing they have 2-4 real friends on the planet. Women mistake a large group of women who talk shit whichever women isn’t there as “friends”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 03:18 AM
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I’m 6’5 but I love it for shorter guys, if women can use all of their wizardry to be more attractive than so can men. Spanx should be outlawed
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 11:08 PM
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I didn’t feel need to clarify that married people are not single… 🤦‍♂️. Just stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 09:29 PM
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Then, that is on you, the information is available
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 08:54 PM
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I have introduced every girl that I was in an exclusive relationship with. If they were not at that level then they were not worthy of exclusivity
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 08:41 PM
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Whatever you want to believe. And clearly there are a bunch of women thinking they are in relationships with men that are not in agreement on the status
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 08:39 PM
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You are really reaching with that. We are talking about people in the dating stage. Clearly marriage is “official” and publicly searchable
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 08:32 PM
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You would be married. 🤦‍♂️. Why do you insist on taking something simple and clear and looking for stupid loopholes. Clearly you are not single if you are married. I felt stupid even having to type that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 08:07 PM
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Yep. If his social media does not say “in a relationship with xxxx” then he is not your man
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 08:05 PM
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Whatever you want to tell yourself. It’s not dating, it’s FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 08:03 PM
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No, they don’t. It’s the kiss of death. Talk to a male best friend or a professional counselor.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 08:00 PM
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In my mind there are not really variations of dating. If you are not clearly public you are not dating. Anything sure that you’re fooling yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 07:07 PM
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Men know they are single, many women like to convince themselves they are not. I am single but there may or may not be a few ladies that have convinced themselves we are dating despite being clear from the start. Valentines was a like dodging land mines. If you have not met his family and are not posted regularly and clearly on his social media, you are not dating
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 05:58 PM
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They want it all, next question.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 05:01 PM
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I am divorced and have opted to have a few sugar babies rather than date seriously or have someone live with me. They truly are friends with benefits. We car about each other but not in the same way as a regular relationship with pressure and a need to “progress” the relationship. The biggest problem with these relationships is that they are awesome it shines a million candle power spotlight on the flaws in traditional dating and marriage. My plan was to go back to regular dating after my kids w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 05:49 AM
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Women still want to date, and marry, just on their terms. Men don’t really like those terms. Marriage is not overly appealing to either side at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 11:55 PM
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Where I live in California, as a rather large, Ukrainian and Russian population. Even the very traditional ones that want to get married, young, and have a baby are very class and income conscious. A few steps above that, or below it depending on how you see it, are the sugar babies and prostitutes chasing the flashiest guys… who ironically have a lot less money 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 10:17 PM
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The problem is that much of what you wrote is not true. Divorce rates are not sky high, they are drastically lower than they were in the 80s and 90s and have been shrinking year over year. All those huffing and puffing about men, being lonely, are self reported studies being done by women. Look through history and see what men were wired to do. We were not wired to be home at 5 PM every night to kiss your wife and play with children. They were not wired to be mom’s helper for hours a night. Men …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 08:38 PM
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Agreed, within social circles divorces usually come and bunches.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 05:39 AM
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Divorce rates are not high now. They are pretty damn low compared to the 80’s and 90’s. The reasons don’t really matter, modern marriage just is not very appealing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 11:32 PM
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There are only so many of those types of men available. Then out of that group there are fewer that are willing to participate in a monogamous long term relationship. Then of that group it shrinks even farther when they look for a guy with those traits that will commit long term to that specific girl. Don’t kind yourself, we do it too. Many men settle for the best we can get rather than hold out for our ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 09:07 PM
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Because honestly sugar dating isn’t that different from regular dating… aside from being able to date more attractive girls. Dating any girl is fairly expensive
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 03:31 AM
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No doubt… but the ones that go wild go real wild
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 03:17 AM
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You are young and inexperienced, you will learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 03:17 AM
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Try sugar babies. Get some experience and have some success before trying to regular date. Think of it as batting practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 03:03 AM
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It is just part of life. You are loved for what you can provide and nothing is free for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 03:02 AM
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This proves some women are bad pickers or think they can fix guys. The likelihood of divorce is 50% higher if the wife out earns her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 02:22 AM
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There is balance. You are a bit weird if you are looking for a Virgin that’s over 23 but I can understand not wanting a woman or man that had the need to see sexual attention from dozens of people. The stats are not in your favor at that point. I think the 3-8 territory depending on age is about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 02:18 AM
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Never date much less marry someone who does not have raw attraction for you. You will eventually be miserable. You don’t want to be settled for
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 02:10 AM
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I saw that. That group was very similar to the 9am crew at my gym. They pop over after dropping off about 6 kids at school. When one of them separates they go on a rampage and bang half the gym in about 2 months. About half of them get back together with their husband and it is really awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 01:17 AM
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Funny how a SAHM is a hero that has the hardest job in the world but a SAHH is a bum.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 01:11 AM
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I live in CA but my specific suburb has a large population of Mormons. Nobody has a separation or post divorce hoe phase like a Mormon woman that got married at 20. This is a legit concern. They go hard
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 10:14 PM
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One of my favorite sayings is “behavior rewarded is behavior repeated”. The current situation is that being “Mr.Right” is not very rewarding in modern relationships with modern women. Young men see this and are no longer striving for the white picket fence and 2.5 kids. The finances required to do that with a SAHM requires a ton of hard work. Then when you get home and do a bunch around the house “it’s the bare minimum.” I won’t even get into the nightmare that is divorce. Western women have mad…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 09:26 PM
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I don’t really blame them, every time I’ve ever settled for a partner it was not a great experience. I would rather have a fun fling that isn’t serious than a boring dedicated and committed girlfriend. I not everybody values exclusivity above all else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 05:39 PM
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So you are basing your opinion on a few jaunts down walking street in Pattaya? Make a male profile for Seeking in any major city and report back. Also check out Eros and P411. That won’t cover it but it will give you a more accurate picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 04:36 AM
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Women don’t like men who are willing to pay for sex because they have less power of them. You want to withhold sex from him… good luck. He will be banging a early 20’s hottie for several hundred dollars within a few days. They have much less power than a guy who wouldn’t and would either endure forced celibacy or have to work fairly hard to have sex with a woman his own age and looks match.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 12:20 AM
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All men have paid for sex, it just depends how direct it was. This is a very stupid like to draw in my opinion but good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 12:15 AM
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Nope. A fairly large percentage of RP forums members that are non-white. The argument that the red pill is alt right is incredibly weak. It’s like saying a Ford F150 is racist because I am sure some racists drive Ford F150’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 09:46 PM
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That also has nothing to do with RP. People want to tie the two but it is a very weak argument. Many of the red pill leaders on tiktok and YouTube are non white. Kevin Samuels and Patrice O’Neal (RIP)Fresh and Fit, Andrew Tate (Muslim). The “passport bros” are very red pill and primarily African American but other races are jumping on board with that. At this point there is no credible tie between the alt right and Rp.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 10:58 AM
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Which has nothing to do with RP
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 05:53 AM
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I’m 44 and there are 4/5 young ladies in their 20’s that could be under the impression we are dating 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 02:32 AM
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Yes, but they don’t really get it until some girl does a number on them. I was pathetically blue pilled until my divorce. It’s takes intense paid to learn that AWALT means AWALT. That is a lesson only a woman can teach.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 02:18 AM
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Nope. That’s not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 02:17 AM
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Women do not have to give excuses for rejecting anybody. If they don’t want you, they don’t want you. Hit the gym and work on your personality. They don’t owe you any explanations but if you can handle it and if you want self improvement… ask “hey, I am not asking this because I want another chance or anything like that, I do just want to improve myself and eventually find a good relationship. What did I do that turned you off or was not appealing. Please be brutally honest because holding back …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 09:10 PM
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If you ask why red-pill ideology is growing I would direct you back to the fact that that men don’t red pill each other. The only thing that can make RP grow is more women red pilling young men. Female behavior is the trigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 08:05 PM
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The funniest part was one of my ex SB’s banged G Easy 🤦‍♂️😂. This song kills me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:51 PM
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That’s an example. There are much worse but 💯 selfies on location is pretty narcissistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:38 PM
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I’ve been a sugar daddy for 14 years. The things I have seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:22 PM
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https://youtu.be/TPrXcAnEe3o Here you go, Tulum has its own song
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:20 PM
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You must not have much experience in the SW or Sugarbaby world. Anytime you see a girl in those type of locations and she’s not posting who she is with., it’s usually a 50 year old sugar daddy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:15 PM
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They are locations that are rarely paid for by the girl. The vast majority are Instagram baddies that get flown out. If a girl has a ton of pictures from LA, Vegas, Miami, Dubai, Tulum, etc. She participates in SW or her family is loaded
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:59 PM
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For me it’s about content. A page full of selfies and thirst traps is a no. A page with family and friends and hobbies and low key travel (Not Dubai, Tulum, etc). Could make me more attracted to her. My current love interest is a sweet person and her page is all animals and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:42 PM
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The whole pitch that women are so much happier is based on an opinion piece by a male self proclaimed “happiness expert” named Paul Dolan from the LSE. He claimed women should not get married snd men should because Men benefited from marriage because they “calmed down”, he said. “You take less risks, you earn more money at work, and you live a little longer. Being nagged an henpecked till you are 85 instead of having freedom till you are 78 isn’t a good trade for me. He relies on a bunch of obsc…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 06:25 PM
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No, they know what works for them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 04:00 AM
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Gosling had a divorce and she is #2. He’s Canadian. Affleck had dated extensively, mostly younger and the only older girl is J Lo, who he dumped twice. Jonas has heavy divorce rumors. Hemsworth is on the rocks. https://www.geeksultd.com/2022/04/surprises-chris-hemsworth-major-marriage-problem-divorce-rumor-explained/ I would so most men it’s they could find a perfect partner but women these days don’t want that role.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 11:54 PM
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There is the friendzone and then there is the back burner. I will never be in the friendzone but I have no issue being on the back burner. I have made it clear that all of my intentions are sexual in nature. We can be friends but I am going to try something to be clear that I am not the kind of guy that’s gonna listen to her problems or help her move . If she wants to have a discrete sexual relationship, I have volunteered. Eventually, she will get in a serious relationship and fade away, or she…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 07:53 PM
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The problem is there are unpleasant things that neither gender wants to do… and men nearly always end up doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 07:34 AM
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This is an interesting story of women only communities that have more or less failed. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/24/style/womyns-land-movement-lesbian-communities.html
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 07:33 AM
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There are a ton of environments and “man camp” situations where there are very very few women and they rarely last long. Many of these places are sparse but run very efficiently and are much more productive than mixed sex environments. Women don’t do it because they benefit greatly from having men around to do the most unpleasant but necessary jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 07:09 AM
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When you are not a “thirsty” man, women lose most of their power over you. That is why they hate sex workers and women who are promiscuous (after they are married).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 03:11 AM
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The median income for lawyers has dropped over the past twenty years. They are a dime a dozen. https://www.reuters.com/legal/legalindustry/median-us-lawyer-income-dropped-over-past-two-decades-economists-find-2022-08-23/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 12:09 AM
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https://scholarship.law.uci.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1442&context=ucilr I have a few in my neighborhood and know over a dozen through real estate state.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 12:07 AM
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I went to law school for a year and opted not to move forward because I was working at a large law firm. All of the partners in our office made a lot of money but we’re pretty miserable. Multiple divorces kids in rehab or with major problems. It was not the lifestyle I wanted. I am all for stay at home moms, just don’t rack up a quarter million dollars in eight years of education to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 08:30 PM
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Respectfully, This is not how it works at all. By any standard I have a lot of money and connections. In family court that means nothing. Not sure what state you are in but family courts in my state use a formula. There is no emotion or leeway. If he has money and she doesn’t, he gets to pay for both attorneys. If he is playing games with his income and a forensic accountant is required, he gets to pay roughly $25,000 to audit himself. I had to do that because my ex couldn’t grasp the concept of…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 05:30 PM
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Then 40% of female lawyers quit within 4 years if they land a male attorney. Poor guy gets to pay off her student loans while supporting a SAHM. Now she has the prestige and lifestyle of an attorney without actually having to work 60 hour weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 07:38 AM
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How exactly does one drag out a divorce and avoid paying alimony and CS. That is virtually impossible in the United States. Getting a spousal support order takes two weeks or less. He would also be forced to pay for her attorney
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 07:36 AM
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Neither, I would prefer to be alone than take either of those
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 02:59 AM
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Not every guy is trying to have sex with you. Maybe I’m in the minority but I actually want to sleep with 10-15% of women I need and actually try to have sex with 3-5%. I play a little game in my head when I’m bored in large groups counting how many women in the room I want to bang. The number is pretty low. If you are not an 7+ without make up or filters… everyone from the opposite sex is not giving you much thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 06:17 PM
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Don’t be boring, it’s not that complicated
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:36 PM
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I think there is a critical mass of fat people that don’t want to make a change so some kinder hearted women have opted to try to be supportive. Nobody thinks it’s beautiful. The people that actually love and care about you will fat shame you for your own good.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 04:01 AM
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Well… this forum is not about those issues. There are others that are. Keep trying to move the goal posts
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 06:49 AM
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That’s marriage for you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 03:45 AM
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One partner. Shows commitment and the ability to pain bond. No question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 11:16 PM
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I know women well. Grew up with all women including 5 sisters. I was married for 16 years. I have had a dozen shorter relationships since. I have multiple female friends, most of whom were romantic at some point. I truly love women but they are not particularly good friends to men. Women keep male friends that can benefit them. I own a bar, a mobile dispensary a really fun house, vacation houses, several extra cars and a boat. I am every girls friend 😂. They just appreciate my friendship so much…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 06:20 PM
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Nooooo! My kids are doing great and I will not be settling down with anyone until they are out of the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 03:32 AM
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I agree with you that things are a major crap shoot with infants and you just have to do what you have to do to get through it. Thankfully that is a very small window in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 03:03 AM
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This is very antidotal but I have an aunt that would be considered WGTOW. She’s now in her 60’s and has been single most of her life by choice. In her 20’s she was a solid 9, even now she is fit has top tier looks for her age. She resembles Heather Locklear. She graduated from a prestigious private college on the west coast. She has helped take several start ups public and is well off. She dated a lot when she was younger but quit in her 40’s, not at all due to a lack of interest. She says that …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 09:18 PM
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Most men don’t verbalize their unhappiness with women. They vote with their feet. The desired guys just get a FWB or roster and enjoy themselves. Cut them loose when they start getting annoying. No commitment. Women have killed the golden goose. Men are not interested in long term relationships with selfish western women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 11:12 PM
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68.5
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 10:53 PM
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It’s rare until you are the one paying it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 09:27 PM
1

The definition of “working” is very subjective. In 2021 the female employment rate was 53.4%. https://www.statista.com/statistics/192396/employment-rate-of-women-in-the-us-since-1990/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 09:17 PM
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10% is not rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 09:12 PM
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My opinion may be a little bit skewed, because I live in a very high income area, but most lives are not contributing significant money to the household budget
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 09:07 PM
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Only 64% of people living together want to be married. For single guys it might be 50%. For divorced men (aka they know more about marriage) it is well under 50%. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/living-single/201709/how-many-americans-want-be-single-results-5-studies?amp
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 09:05 PM
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You’re really trying to tell me that you know what most single men want? You don’t. It’s quite arrogant to suggest you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 07:13 PM
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53% of men age 30 to 34 in the US are not married. Marriage rates have declined almost 20% since 2006 and that trend is only picking up speed . As I demonstrated before, roughly 25% of married women have a full-time job, that’s not most. My sister is a cpa with a huge tax practice. She is one of the 25% that works her ass off and they hire out the majority of their household duties. She calls me laughing when she sees these returns from divorced women listing themselves as artist or interior dec…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 07:06 PM
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The other 25% are working full-time, but are not married. Didn’t think I needed to spell it out
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 07:01 PM
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20% don’t work and 26.6% work part time. That leaves about 25% of married women working full time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 05:29 PM
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And I’m telling you that men don’t want to be mothers helpers. That is why we are opting out or seeking women from more traditional cultures. We don’t get to just co-opt you to complete our work. I can’t just say “hey babe, I need my job site cleaned up before Monday morning, head our there and get everything in the dump trailer. Should only take you a few hours, thanks.” I am also going to add I am a divorced dad with physical custody of two kids, 8 and 14. They see their mom every other weeken…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 05:28 PM
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I only have my own experience and some stats. 20% of married women with children are SAHM’s and 26.6% of working moms work part time. That means 53.4% of moms work full time. Assume half of those are unmarried and it leaves about 25% of married women with full time jobs. Then you throw in that I am talking about men seeking women with traditional values and most of them are not wanting a woman with a full on 40 hour per week career. I know that was not attractive to me. It’s not unreasonable to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 05:18 PM
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Equal household management is a relatively new and western expectation. Traditionally Western men have NEVER done more housework and parenting than they do now and it’s still not enough. Even for SAHM’s, they expect a man to do much of what is/was their “job”. God forbid you ask a SAHM “what did you do today” knowing they had six hours of downtime with kids at school. God forbid you set expectations for them. That would be “abusive”. This kind of stuff will make even a great guy give up and tap …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 06:04 AM
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The better your life is and the less stress and fight for survival you have the more time you have to compare yourselves to others and worry about what you don’t have. It’s like how a person who isn’t very hungry can go to a giant Las Vegas buffet and not think that any of the food looks good. They are spoiled
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 06:35 AM
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Probably similar to MGTOW in that they just don’t it is worth the hassle to have relationships with people that want to be with them. I totally get it and don’t blame them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 06:16 AM
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Equal imo
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 12:08 AM
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I have made this argument many times. Women are just more difficult to be in relationships with. Ask any experienced bisexual woman which sex is easier to date and they will laugh and say men, by far.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 06:27 PM
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That is exactly what I am saying, women see the positives that a relatively small group of men get to enjoy but never the negatives. Men have much harder lives than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:32 AM
1

Have you seen the video of the Hot/Crazy scale? Of course everyone settles unless they are a 10/10 that can land a 10/10. Which is very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 05:06 AM
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That doesn’t really work in most roles. I agree they may not pay Bay Area money forever but if they could offshore the job they would have from the start. There are too many things that get lost in translation. I say this as someone with a dozen foreign VA’s. They can do a lot but can’t do everything you need
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:49 AM
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With the expansion of remote work and six figure jobs from a laptop… you will see a lot of young men moving To other countries. You will also see single/divorced men retiring in other countries. I will retire in Costa Rica or Portugal at 50, a full decade earlier than I could in the US. I have 6 friends that have sold everything and move to Columbia, Brazil, Philippines and Thailand in the past 4 years. They are not creepy sex tourists, Just guys wanting to maximize their money, free time and st…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 10:57 PM
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I have two friends that are in the 9/10 range while their wives are 5.5’s. The women are not fat, they are just plain and average. The catch is that everything is all about the men.. The relationships are extremely imbalanced. The men focus on themselves and the wife is focused on him and running a household. The men clearly act like the prize and “settled” for women that put them on a pedestal and let them do whatever they want. These relationships are outliers but they happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 05:19 AM
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In my Circles it’s very common. I know many guys that I’ve had to sell businesses or quit jobs to scare their ex into taking in a lump sum. These are guys paying $4000+ a month. I’m paying $3600/mo for alimony with no end date. I will need to get my kids through HS and then circle back and play hardball.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 11:05 PM
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Or if you are very successful and she is just scraping by. Especially if she is using any public services. They would much rather pin that expense on the ex husband than the taxpayer. Having a great attorney only really moves the needle in child custody, when it comes to money the courts have a computer program called Dissomaster and those numbers rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 10:56 PM
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For a 10+ year marriage In California the length is not specified, you can pay for ever. Judges have a lot freedom
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 10:25 PM
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That’s an outlier. Stick to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 06:21 PM
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Just like women say men have privilege when in reality it is a very small percentage of men, maybe 2-5%… the women that really have pretty privilege are not a huge number. Maybe 25% up until 30 then it drops to 10-15%. If you are poor, unattractive or older you will not receive any privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 06:20 PM
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As you get a little older you are not competing against other men or even their idealized man in their brain… you are competing against this peace and freedom. When adults can start embracing being alone it’s really had to start accommodating and catering to other people. That’s probably not the best thing for Society as a whole but it gets appealing to singie people. I’m 44 and divorced and there probably isn’t a woman on the planet I would want to be married to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 06:54 AM
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So I should have moved my family out of the state to then Immediately file for divorce? That’s incredibly helpful advice
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 01:59 AM
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After 10 years of marriage it can become indefinite in some states. The wording in CA is “as long as he/she needs”. There is no specific time frame.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 11:20 PM
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That could all be negotiated and adjusted to make it work. Most men would gladly pay more for 2-3 years while she trains for a career. Better to get her independent asap. I did… then she quit school in the first week.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 10:11 PM
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That’s simply not true. The average age of divorce is 30. Over 60% of all first divorces happen before 39. This are not old women being thrown to the wolves. They are perfectly capable of getting a career for the final 25 years of a normal working life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 10:17 PM
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I don’t buy into this “you gave up your career raising kids, BS.” There are fairly high paying careers you can get by going to an 18 month school program. Go be a radiology tech or notary or dental hygienist and make six figures. Marriage is not a free ride for life. Get a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 04:33 PM
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No difference. People just assume you are a bit of a mess after divorce. I only really judge women if they bring a bunch of random dudes around their children. More woman than you think do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 01:34 AM
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Look how husbands are portrayed now in TV snd Movies. 99% of the time they are portrayed as helpless idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 05:05 PM
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Most women don’t know men. They just don’t. Part of that is our fault for placating them and not being more direct. The women that know men best are sex workers. Their income depends on understanding men and delivering what we truly want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 04:53 AM
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I am a left handed bipolar Gemini with ADHD and a bunch of dark triad traits. I am also 6’5 with a fairly attractive face, say a 6 and financially successful. Women don’t love assholes, they love the lack of boredom that guys like me provide. I literally forget to text them or I write out a text but don’t sent it. I’m not playing games, I literally cannot stay focused long enough to be clingy. I forget and double book things on accident but I appear unavailable or creating competition. They frus…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 02:26 AM
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That’s Basically my entire neighborhood in the Bay Area. The SAHM’s are doctors, lawyers, engineers with few hundred thousand in Student loans and a husband that makes $500k but is still struggling to keep his head above water. Women are built physically and mentally to care for their families. Men were built to do work. We can suffer for 50/60 hours a week, swallow our happiness and do what needs to be done. One is not better then the other, but are built and wired different.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 07:02 AM
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Sometime those accommodations can be made but it’s rare, bordering on being an outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 06:46 AM
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You are talking about missing $250k in household income. Usually while carrying major student loan debt. We are not talking about missing a vacation, we are talking about a very different life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 06:39 AM
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They can but when you are talking about a single women making $250k so she doesn’t care about the earning power of her partner is not long term thinking. At some point she is going to want to have kids and not have to grind that hard their entire life. I am in SF and have plenty of female friends that deal with this scenario. It’s hard to have young kids and be an on call surgeon or a high end trial attorney. Very few women are wired to work outside the home 50+ hours a week for 40+ years.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 06:22 AM
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That’s assuming Lily and Joanna don’t want children or expect to be the breadwinner during and after pregnancy. The women I know working high power jobs would gladly give them up if they could do so without severely harming their lifestyle. 40% of female Doctors and Lawyers leave the occupation with 4 years of being licensed. It’s rare for a woman to jump into a high pressure 60 hour per week job and stay there working for 40+ years.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 05:58 AM
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I think women are more aware of finances in high cost of living areas. If Adam made $300k and Bob made $100k… and you are in SF, NYC, etc… you are choosing between near poverty and being relatively comfortable. Being able to have children or not. Things that are kind of a big deal in choosing a spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 05:51 AM
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I think it’s overblown. Only you can put yourself in the friend zone. If you have romantic intentions and she “doesn’t like you like that” then wish her the best and move on to the next girl. Be friendly when you see her but reject the invitation to do platonic things with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 02:52 AM
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There are always outliers but I don’t base my opinion off of outliers
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 08:30 PM
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At some point you are at dinner with a hot 19 year old and everything is off. They are still naive kids. They have not lived very much. The attraction is strictly sexual because it’s painful to talk to them for long periods of time. They grow up a lot between 18-25
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:02 AM
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That’s why when women are financially secure “they don’t need a man.”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:31 AM
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I know several woman that had kids young and they bounced back perfectly. Very lean with defined abs. Age is the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:14 AM
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It’s negging women over 30. Women are not stupid, they have eyes and see. I am 44 and date significantly younger women but I think it’s odd when guys over 25 are dating teenagers. Once a woman is over 25 then she is mature and experienced enough to date any age group she wants
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 01:31 AM
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It’s a time vs money Vs effort calculation. If you are broke it’s not even an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:12 AM
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And professional athletes and celebrities. It’s more convenient than having to babysit local girls. If you are broke you can just say you are broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:10 AM
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If you have ever traveled to Columbia, Venezuela, Brazil, Thailand, Philippines, etc the vast majority of guys are well above average. Hence they can afford to travel. There are some older unattractive guys but most are not in that category. A week in those countries cost less than flying a girl into a major US city for a long weekend.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:00 AM
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I’m a 44 year old man with a few hundred ladies in my past, there is nothing that surprises me or upsets me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 07:29 PM
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Our situation is more of a friendly exchange. Sex is never free.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:51 PM
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I think men allow themselves to be used so women are happy to use them. For pretty girls it is not even conscious, it just happens. I am casually seeing a girl who has a rather large group of orbiters that she takes advantage of with their consent. She had two guy friends help her move from a 3rd story apartment to another 3 story apartment with heavy furniture. She bought them subway for lunch but I still consider that to be using someone. She has another guy that is a mechanic who fixes her be…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:26 PM
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I think the gap between 18 and 25 is enormous for women. A 25 year old has been out of high school and experiencing adult life for 7 years. My opinion and experience is that 18-21 are still pretty much kids where a 24/25 year old woman can have a maturity level to connect with as a grown man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 03:30 PM
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Very much so. Just leave when it starts. The reasons don’t really matter, move on
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 08:39 PM
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Being the breadwinner is a thankless job that puts you in a very bad position if the marriage ends. I have 50/50 custody while paying $6500/mo tax free for my ex wife to sit around and not work. My kids are in school so she doesn’t have any reason not to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 09:39 PM
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I live in SF. The carefully curated profile and social media persona is often much different than reality when you get to know them and peel back the onion. I am not saying what they said was not true… but it’s a very edited and filtered version of who they are. The reality is that they are on a dating app… so their life ain’t perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 03:53 AM
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I’m a guy but here is what I do. “Let’s play a game so we can get to know each other better… send me your your Spotify and podcast list… here is mine.”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 02:35 PM
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If you have “millions” you have income. Earn down 4-6% per year conservatively so if you had $4-5M you are already over the $250k per year. And earned income is taxed very differently than passive income. A $250k Salary is not taking home a whole lot of money depending on where you live. You probably wouldn’t even have this choice as the low key trust fund guy would never tell you about it until you got engaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 02:57 AM
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It’s an attraction for me but I’m tall, 6’5, and have a tall family. Most of my Gf’s were in the 5’8 to 6’1 range. My ex wife is 5’11. When she wore heels she was my exact height and a lot of men did get weird about it. That being said, I’m only attracted to tall and lean women. 5’11 and curvy doesn’t interest me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 05:19 PM
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Agreed. I explained that and she eventually understood. She would talk to anybody and opened the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:53 PM
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I have a FWB that is a attractive girl in her mid 20’s. 5.5/6 face and a 8 body. Lean, fit and blonde. Very outgoing and extroverted. Makes eye contact and smiles. She works at a gym and waits tables at a popular Mexican restaurant. She gets hit on 7-10 times a day. She doesn’t post a bunch of thirst traps on social media but does have fitness content. Her DM’s are overflowing. She doesn’t even look at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 08:27 PM
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It’s real. And if you are into some harder and kinkier things you may not be interested in marrying a girl that is into what you are into so you compartmentalize the two. That doesn’t mean you won’t have sex with your wife, but you won’t have the kind of sex you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 11:27 PM
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I’ve been with a lot of women and I’m quite picky about body type so at a minimum they have good bodies. I have found no correlation between looks and how good or bad they are in bed. I have had 9/10s that are also rock stars in bed and I have had butter faces that were kind of boring. All that matters is attitude, openness and enthusiasm. For me enthusiasm is everything. I’ve had very attractive women with good skills who were not overly enthusiastic and it was just ok. I have had girls with av…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 03:54 PM
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Some women just really enjoy being pregnant and having kids. I know it sounds like a lot of money but when you look at it as a one year job for the woman, it can’t just be about the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 11:28 PM
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I’m going to sound like a complete pig but if my wife were 35+ I would be thrilled to use a surrogate. For health reasons for the baby and my wife’s body bouncing back and staying attractive. Not very PC of me but I think it’s a plus.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 11:27 PM
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No. I love and appreciate a lot of things about women but the hormones and emotions are not something I would want to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 08:31 PM
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All different ways. I married the wrong women. She was a Wilhelmina contract model but she has BPD. It was really fun then really rough. I do not recommend dating any women with cluster B personality disorders despite the sex being amazing in the beginning. It will never get back to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:43 AM
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I don’t say women are the same in a negative way but they are more similar than not. They just excel in another aspect of life. Just like “all guys” are more similar than different If presented with the same options. I was FWB with a female plastic surgeon that makes over $3m a year. I have dated a few adjunct professors at Cal and Santa Clara. I dated a horse girl whose dad was a congressman. I dated an Olympian.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:39 AM
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For upper tier western women he is average. On a worldwide scale Average Adam is in the top 5-10%. In many places Adam would be a prize. If able to work remotely Adam could kill it in Thailand, Philippines, most of central and South America, Portugal, etc. At Costco a bottle of water is 25 cents. In a vending matching at your work it’s $2. At a baseball game it’s $5. At an airport it’s $8. The same bottle has very different value based on location. If you are not being properly valued… change yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:21 PM
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Maybe in the future, at this time I don’t want a serious long term relationship. Too many other moving parts in my life
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:48 PM
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I grew up next to a large foster home for girls. That got me started quite early and probably wasn’t the healthiest start to a sex life. I am trying to push the reset button to change my views on things but it’s hard when you are used to having a roster and they reach out often.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:26 PM
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I am a very high N count male. Probably in the 250-350 range. I started early, played college and pro sports, worked in night clubs and owned businesses that made getting laid fairly easy (money and status). It was fun and I have some great memories and good friends but sometimes I look back on the amount of time and money i have spent on women and it’s mind blowing. If I include the ex wife is multiple millions. I am sure I could have accomplished much more and more meaningful things that what …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:29 PM
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Lesbian relationships are by far the most volitile. They have the highest rates of divorce and DV. The “make it work” park is not their strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 05:01 PM
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Sounds about right
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 05:00 PM
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Exactly. It’s a fiasco. Usually nothing happens… if they do get together they are living together and getting matching tattoos within a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 04:59 PM
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Until they take it on the chin again.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 04:55 AM
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I happen to be friends with several lesbians, both masculine types and very feminine types. They are all still women and you just end up with both parties making things way too complicated and overthinking every aspect of dating and relationships. I’m sure they COULD all do better than most men but they DON’T because they overthink it and either try way too hard or not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 04:55 AM
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WYP or seeking. Get some experience under your belt
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 01:39 AM
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This is the most accurate post in my experience. Overall it’s not a big issue but the most highly sought after 30-35 year olds may be targeting younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 10:19 PM
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I personally think the Half plus 7 rule makes sense. For you that would be 22/23. I don’t think 18-19 works for men over 25 or 26. As women age the gap can get larger and they can still have things in common to make it work. A 40 yo woman could find the right 65/70 year old and be a fit. That’s why half plus 7 makes sense to me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 01:54 AM
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Do some digging, it’s a everywhere. It started with insurance company actuaries and rental car companies and then expanded to neuroscientist that shows the PFC of the brain grows 50% from 20 to 25 for women. Men are two years behind so it’s more like 27/28 for them. The increase in risky behavior for men is 50% with 2 or more people with them. Women age the opposite, they take risks and do stupider stuff in private.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 01:42 AM
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It’s all over the place. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3621648/#__sec19title
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 01:29 AM
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Not blue pilled at all… but it is not really couple specific. Some cultures large age gaps are more accepted but there is still a maturity and life experience gap that a grown man needs to actively ignore because he wants to get his dick wet. Why do that rather than finding a hot 25 year old that has lived on her own for 7 years and is way more experienced in every way? If a grown man has a lot in common with a 18/19 year old girl and he isn’t annoyed by her after several hours… he is a simpleto…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:41 PM
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I’m 44 and I have been a sugar daddy since 2008. I have far more experience with young women than 99.99% of the male population. I learned a lot through trial and error. If you want to bang troubled 18/19 years olds that fine, just own it. It is not good for them and they are not ready for those types of relationships. That’s why I raised my floor to 25. Men that specifically target barely legal teens are creeps. It’s not hard to find a 25-27 year old hard body.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:24 PM
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I have a masters in human behavior and did extensive studies of Dr Amen spect scans tied to CTE in athletes and abnormalities in criminals. I have viewed thousands of spect scans and I can assure you pre frontal cortex development is real and visible. The occurrence of mental health issues amongst young women seeking large age gap relationships is very high. You can talk about outliers and want to justify your actions all you want but at 18-year-old young woman is not the same as a 25 year old w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:16 PM
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Very well said. Brilliantly explained.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 06:14 PM
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Have you been a 35+ year old man out on a date with a 18-20 year old girl? I have. Several times. And each time I am reminded why I stick to 25+. You can try to spin it anyway you want but they are children in grown up bodies. They are very inexperienced in adult relationships and the world in general. There is the occasional old soul that grew up with a lot of responsibility but they are outliers. If you are a grown man that’s 28+ and you are regularly dating 18-20 year olds… you have some matu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:05 PM
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No. I date much younger women but I don’t go under 25. Their pre frontal cortex is fully developed and they are 7-8 years out of high school so they have some life experience and we could have mutual interests. 18/19 year old girls are still children. Likely living at home still and barely removed from HS. There is just a huge difference between 18 and 25 mentally
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:35 AM
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I think girls bounce around a bit trying to figure out what they like. Often they have a long term BF and the relationship ends in her mid 20’s because she is growing up faster than he is. She then dates around and gives some older guys a chance. If the guy is more established, savvy and fun then she will stick around for awhile. There are some advantages to dating an older guy. The key for the guy is being fun and having the stamina to keep up. I’m 44. I date a few girls in the mid/late 20’s an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 04:22 AM
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Exactly, men with desire-able traits have women coming after them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:26 AM
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But they don’t find men equal to or below them lovable
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:37 PM
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I’m not exactly ready for a committed relationship after a 16 year marriage that ended but I’ve worked on myself physically and mentally and have a lot of platonic female friends. I also have a few sugar baby’s which meets my physical needs so I’m not over anxious with my female friends. It helped me to have a more positive view of women after being married to a very difficult woman with BPD. Because of my mix of sugar babies and attractive platonic friends it’s easy to approach anyone in any co…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 10:51 PM
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The reality is that women want men that other women want. They want to win over a man with options, not be the final default option for a guy that doesn’t have many options.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 10:23 PM
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Don’t be a plate. Be a high caliber women and you will be treated differently
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 10:12 PM
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I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 09:10 PM
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A traditional red pill man actually offers a lot for women that would like a traditional, conservative, masculine partner. Assuming he is the real deal and is successful enough to fund the family he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:21 PM
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When you have children and high 7 figures in assets on the line you have little leverage unless you want to be “financially abusive” and take away their access to money and treat them like kids with a chore list. You are trapped. They know it and you know it. Eventually I hit the bullet and got rid of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:10 AM
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It’s not that uncommon for men who can comfortably afford their spouse to be a SAHM. It doesn’t start that way, there is a slow creep as they do less and less while abusing your ability to be “a team”.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:45 PM
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My ex wife was a SAHM though my kids were in daycare or school till 5:30pm and I did most drop offs and pick ups. Her favorite trick was to do nothing all day and then want us to clean together for an hour or two before bed. When I dared to be annoyed by that after workinG a 10+ hour day or question wtf she did all day… I was unwilling to do my part. From my observations, doing a bunch of house work does not benefit the breadwinner in any way. If it’s possible, outsource cleaning and laundry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:18 PM
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The average woman in the west is 5‘4“ tall and 170 pounds. I do know many 30+ year olds that are still very attractive but they work at it 500% harder than girls in their early 20s. Most know it’s not sustainable. I’m not saying all women hit the wall and get desperate, but their criteria definitely changes as they approach 30 and afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:42 PM
4

In my experience masculine lesbians are more red pilled than any man. Feminine Lesbians do seem to be attracted to taller, fit women. The masculine lesbians I know are heavily tattooed personal trainers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 01:33 AM
0

You can love someone while still seeing that AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:11 PM
2

It can only work if the man is getting laid elsewhere. If neither side is thirsty you can have a true friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 04:19 AM
1

I worked at a strip club, saw escorts for years in the past and now I almost exclusively date sugar babies. Just like everything… there are layers. Most street walkers are pimped. Many massage parlor girls have some sort of trafficking going on. I avoid all of that. Once you hit higher end strip clubs and more expensive escorts nearly all of them are there because they want to be. They make a business decision and decide they prefer to make as much or more per hour than doctors and lawyers. Then…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 11:47 PM
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I’m 44 with two kids and divorced after a 16 year marriage… that cost me seven figures and another $6500 a month for the next decade. There will not be another marriage for me. It is not a good deal unless you can marry someone your financial equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 07:43 PM
2

I don’t want to sound like an arrogant Dick but now I make right under 7 figures. There are not many single women that are equals. Like .000035% of the population. It’s easier to avoid marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 07:36 PM
2

No doubt. I wish someone would have talked some sense into me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 07:06 PM
1

Maybe you get married young (few assets) and by the time you have kids the man is earning enough to where the wife doesn’t have to work. Trying being a husband that makes $300k+ and telling your wife she can’t quit her $45k per year job. It doesn’t fly. The she sits at home spending $45k a year buying crap on Amazon
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:43 PM
3

I think no fault divorce isn’t the issue… getting financially hosed for being able to support a stay at home mom is the issue for me. The marriage didn’t work and she needs to get a job at her maximum earning capacity. Being able to stay home is not a right with no time limit. Having an equal standard of living without working is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:24 PM
8

It’s poor judgement either way
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:25 PM
7

😂😂😂😂😂. Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:43 AM
92

Not specifically for body count but if they have had sex with a scumbag or two that I know about then I’m really turned off. I have rejected a few women in HS and College for that. If She was banging some guy I don’t respect them I just 🤮.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:48 PM
4

But they still prefer to know your intentions so they can put you on whatever track they want. There are girls that are not interested now that are suddenly very interested later. Usually when something doesn’t work out with a different guy that they were into
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 05:17 AM
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Disagree. If it’s a guy they actually wanna fuck then they’re excited about it. If it’s a guy they don’t want to fuck, and they don’t think they can use him or stick them in the Friendzone for long, then they know they need to part ways. What they don’t want is a guy they don’t want to fuck pretending to be a friend when they are not. I have on occasion told girls I don’t want to be friends with them. I’ll remain friendly but we won’t be hanging out platonically and doing them favors or listenin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:37 PM
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I’m a guy and I’m pretty red pilled but I can see why a single mom in her 30’s or 40’s might opt to have no man rather than settling for someone that doesn’t meet their needs. Relationships are hard. If the other person doesn’t provide what you need then why do it? Getting different needs met by different people is a viable option.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 06:46 PM
1

I moved out at 18. Love my mom and talk to her every few days. If a guy has a nice mom that doesn’t have conflicts with others but she doesn’t like you, you are probably a bitch to her son. If she is a high conflict woman then that’s different. My ex has BPD and has conflict with everyone in her life. My mom is a hippy that has zero conflict with anyone. My poor son is only 8 but his future spouse has zero chance with his mom/my ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:48 AM
1

How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:24 AM
2

I am a man but I still find this whole controversy to be stupid. If someone contributes to your life you know it. If they don’t you know that too. Expecting them to make some sort of case for themselves is ridiculous. Even if they had 100 valid points it would sound like an idiot listing off how great they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:37 PM
1

This stuff gets blown out of proportion and is extreme. The definition of bad boy and provider type is exaggerated on the sub. A girl with options generally does not pick “the complete opposite” like the guy she marries is a total putz. It’s the equivalent of a Man that will play around with some trashy hot chicks that are 8/9’s and then marry a 7 with a good family and domestic skills. He doesn’t marry a 4. And she doesn’t go from 6’2 tall dark and handsome edgy guy to a troll… she’s close to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 09:35 PM
1

Being fit is part of maximizing your looks and desire ability. There is a point of diminishing returns that a lot of gym dudes blow past and it starts going backwards. Above all girls want fun. If you are so into the gym that you can’t eat and drink and go out then it doesn’t matter how buff you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 08:35 PM
0

I’m divorced but my work wife is 18 years older and a good 225lbs with short hair though she is strait. She’s been my most trusted employee for 9 years. I would never form any kind of close friendship with a young, attractive employee. In fact I try to avoid hiring hotties for my main businesses because it turns into a distraction and they rarely last. I also own a bar and a mobile cannabis dispensary where I do employ young hotties but they are still a distraction with high turnover.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 07:13 AM
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I am a guy and I’m happy that I’m a guy. Well there are a bunch of advantages that come along with a pretty privilege, you also have a bunch of people trying to bang you all the time that you’re not interested in. I am in real estate and I see it all the time with attractive younger women in the business, they have so many people wasting their time who are just trying to get close to them. It can also work to their advantage but they have to deal with a lot bullshit that men and less attractive …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 04:09 PM
2

In your world… Is that also when a woman must make the decision to abort or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 04:08 AM
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If a woman accidentally gets pregnant should she be forced to deliver and be a great mother to that child? I think we should be equal. If woman have options to terminate or adopt out a child independent of any input from the father then men should be able to completely opt out as well. It is completely unfair for a man to have zero decision making options post conception while women do. They both made the same decisions and are in the exact situation so both should be able to ditch all responsib…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:51 AM
2

That sounds a bit high in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:06 AM
2

I’m 44. With the mass adoption of Testosterone replacement. hGH peptides, hair growth techniques, etc a lot of men are pushing back that number. If you are a man that puts in effort you can look pretty good into your 60’s. There is a black guy at my gym that’s 83. When he walks in wearing a sweat suit and hat he looks 38 from across the room. The guy does 3 sets of 15 pull ups easily. My observation in affluent areas of the us are obviously the men peak in their late 20’s… then the 30’s are kind…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 12:51 AM
1

A lot of people date and even marry people they are lukewarm about sadly. There are more of those than people that are hot for each other after a few years in.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:48 PM
1

No. Settling is getting something unequal to you or what you are capable of. If you are a 5 and you date a 6 that you are lukewarm about because you really want an 8… you are not settling. You may not like the reality of the situation but you are not settling just because you are not head over heels for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:41 PM
1

If he doesn’t have better options… he’s not settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:38 PM
1

For short term casual relationships they don’t care, for serious relationships they do
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:35 PM
7

Wrong. Rich successful men are looking at the big picture and generally don’t marry girls from significantly poorer or less educated backgrounds. Say you marry a really nice attractive girl but her family is poor white trash… you still get dragged into poor white trash problems because you are the most stable family member with money, extra bedrooms, working vehicles, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:34 PM
1

That is the conundrum that woman don’t like to talk about. Woman have no options and pick the best one that can keep… so how would that be settling?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:31 PM
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Used to be a Chad but I aged out. 6’5, above average looks and played college and professional baseball. Getting girls was so easy between 16-26 I couldn’t fathom what the big deal was. Then I was in a long marriage and re entered the dating market at 40 with 2 kids. I am still above average attractiveness and make a lot of money but age and income has turned Me into an attractive option for girls seeking a provider. Which kind of sucks. I can still get attractive women but there are major strin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:03 PM
1

A few thoughts: I give him credit for going on. He knew he would be grilled and took it head on. I don’t think he peers on the opposite end of the spectrum like Drew Afaulo would do that and if they were they would be treated with kid gloves. He’s a bit of a try hard and over the top… but he’s not wrong very often. Tate, fresh and fit, etc is a back lash from young men who are tired of having a feminist agenda shoved down their throat. Jordan Petersen is the more mature version of that. It’s a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:26 PM
1

I know several top .01% OF girls that are starting to see a major dip in revenue since the US economy has entered a recession. They still make a lot of money but the drop is significant, like from $200k a month to $62k last month.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 09:32 PM
2

This post is quite cringy. He mentioned condoms like 3 times, you know he is not getting pussy.
/r/TheRedPill09/10/22 11:21 PM
2

Monogamy started about 1000 years ago as a way for men to protect their offspring from other men who would kill or banish them so they could have sexual access to the woman. That’s not really an issue these days yet we still try to fight against human nature. And you are correct, people are usually as faithful as their options.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 05:41 PM
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Monogamy is unnatural. It’s a social construct that runs counter to human nature. I feel this way for both sexes but I agree with you that most modern men are possessive and can’t wrap their head around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 05:10 PM
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I know, it’s not an argument. The stats are clear. There are 3 lesbian divorces for every 1 gay divorce. DV rates are equal at best. The more women involved in a relationship the higher conflict it is likely to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:41 AM
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I appreciate your attempt to have a debate about this but you can’t argue against the fact that lesbian relationships are the highest conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:37 AM
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What point are you wanting me to respond to? Men wait longer to commit and make wiser decisions in their long term partners. They are less emotional and more practical. Nothing new here. Gay men don’t cheat because Gay men generally don’t expect or require monogamy. They realize it’s unrealistic. Once again, they are more practical. Gay men also have much lower domestic violence rates. It’s not just divorce. Men are just much lower in conflict than women. Women are hard to be with, even for othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 05:52 AM
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The details don’t really matter… women can’t get along with each other when men are not even in the picture. If women were wonderful and men were the downfall of relationships… then lesbian relationships would be much more successful than heterosexual relationships or gay men. Instead they fail at double the rate. The facts and stats point to women being much more difficult to be in a relationship with. Like 200% higher. Two women together is basically a train wreak waiting to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 05:39 AM
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But the second point wouldn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:20 AM
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The highest divorce rate by a very wide margin… is lesbians. The lowest… gay men. That would suggest that perhaps men are not the problem. The more women in the relationship, the more problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:18 AM
1

Who said it was?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:30 PM
10

In general it is harder for an average man to replace a girlfriend. It will take more work to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:51 PM
1

True, they want men to change to fit their ideals where as the men are just not interested. You will probably see a movement in the next decade or two when women also stop trying. They will just do their own thing and have a FWB and be done with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:57 PM
1

Read a random page of FDS… it’s not very flattering. And I don’t even really disagree with most of the pillars of FDS. It’s a little light on personal accountability but at least they take some. MGTOW isn’t woman hating just as I don’t think FDS was man hating. Both sides are frustrated. The women want men to change and men simply don’t want to play.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:40 PM
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You are cherry picking and conveniently avoiding this one: “I now understand MGTOW It's not about hating women. It's about respecting yourself, understanding that the game is rigged and doing all you can to fight for yourself, your goals, discipline and seeing how far you can take your body, mind and spirit. If anyone, be it a man or woman, gets in that way, then they must be cut from your life. Whether MGTOW's attitude to women is genetic or by virtue of politics - it's all irrelevant. It doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:35 PM
1

That is not true. At all. Maybe 25% of the posts were about how they found themselves there which usually included some negative experiences with women. The rest were about mens interests like working out, reading, travel, investing, etc. women were never the center of the MGTOw sub and if it started trending that way it was pulled back on track. The redpill sub was different and more negative. There is also some misconception that MGTOw guys had trouble getting women. It was the opposite, they …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:03 PM
2

For me personally there are multiple body types I am attracted to. I may like small boobs on a petite and athletic girl with defined abs or a tall thin model body. But then I like big boobs on a curvy athletic body or big implants on a 35+ year old fitness girl. Small boobs on a larger framed women is not appealing. Huge boobs on a larger framed women is also not particularly attractive. You can have a preferred body type while also being attracted to a few other types.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 03:19 PM
2

Gay women complain about each other more than other type of couple and gay men complain the least. I’ll be blunt… women are usually the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 12:41 AM
1

Women don’t want to be equal, they want to be with a man that is superior to them in every way but is humble enough to treat them like they are the prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 03:06 AM
2

You said it without getting it. They end up with. Different kind of guy who values them in a lesser way. Maybe they value each other in a lessor way. The more sexual partners reported pre marriage the less satisfied people report themselves to be in marriage. The self reported happiest group has had one partner, their spouse. I can’t relate to this but my marriage failed and I’m a man whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 04:34 PM
2

Probably women just because they have more opportunity. If men had women throwing it at them all day everyday they would cheat a lot more. We are as faithful as our options and in general women have more options.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 01:34 AM
2

I do. I have a few sugar baby’s. It’s by far the most efficient, honest and rewarding form of dating. Along with that… if you are a fairly wealthy guy then all dating is sugar dating. The cost is not a huge difference from regular rich guy dating. If we are talking about “free sex”… for heterosexual men there is no such thing. You always pay in one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 11:45 PM
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Agreed. Often you will see a couple that’s way off and then you see an old picture and the girl was very thin and attractive when they started dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 02:09 AM
1

Why is everyone intent on making things as complicated as possible. Be attractive and don’t be weird. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 06:01 AM
8

I was apparently abusive and controlling when I dared to ask “what have you done for the past 10 hours”.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 09:51 PM
8

The most abusive relationships statistically are lesbians beating on each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 09:08 PM
1

Truth is 95% of girls are totally intimidated by a gigachad and don’t want one. If and when they get one they are terrified they can’t keep him. Then the funny flip side is that gugachad is only a gigachad because he is insecure. It takes so much effort to be a 10 that only the insecure (of both sexes) will put in the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 06:10 PM
0

We should know that all of the concepts your hear online have some basis in reality but are often greatly exaggerated. These general rules don’t apply as strictly to men and women that are conventionally attractive. A woman in her late 30’s can be in high demand if they are still hot. In shape and having great style changes a lot of the traditional rules but if you are average then you should stick with the averages
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 10:02 PM
0

Each other. A 50/50 partnership with both adults giving first. Their kids will be lucky
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 03:27 PM
5

Most givers are very uncomfortable taking. The ideal situation is you have two givers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 05:52 AM
0

It’s rather embarrassing. You have to be the opposite of the young guys they are currently dating. Fun, low pressure, mature, successful, respectful, not be a try hard, don’t be in a rush. Know when to lay back and when to make a move. If you are very successful, you don’t have to say anything because she will figure it out on her own.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 05:48 AM
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It’s very simple. There are givers and takers. Don’t marry a taker. Only enter relationships with givers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 02:33 AM
2

And I think an important point to make is that the age gap relationships usually don’t start in club or on tinder. The olds guys in the club are not the ones finding success.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:44 AM
3

This is well said. If you are one of the top 5-10% of guys women actually want to date, the rules are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 11:03 PM
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As a 44 year old guy that dates younger women I will say no. They have to be significantly removed from HS and college and in the real world. Most are willing start dating older guys at 24/25. A lot will date guys their age from 18-25/27 and when those guys are not growing up at the pace they want they begin to explore dating older guys. A 25 year old college grad with her first career job is not interested in watching her BF play video games in a crusty apartment with barely any furniture. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 10:52 PM
0

Women are much more similar than different across cultures. Western women have a softer society allowing them to carry on more than others. I promise you can take the loudest feminist in the US and If you dropped her into a Taliban controlled Village in Afghanistan with no men tasked to protect her, she STFU and throw a Burka on faster than you can imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:29 PM
3

I would say it never hurts to be seen with attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:26 PM
1

Sounds about right. These days a woman can’t do a good deed without filming it and posting it online somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 03:23 PM
0

Are you short? Are you ugly? Are you socially awkward?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:18 AM
1

For a relationship to work properly the guy does need to be the catch… but he needs to be humble enough to treat her like she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 11:03 PM
1

Yes, because the guys who know how to play that game are not generally trying settle down and be. Sweet boyfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 09:15 PM
1

Because men and women are different. The end
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:46 PM
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This is a valid complaint. It’s like going fishing in your swimming pool and complaining that you didn’t catch anything. You need to be in the right place and you need to be fishing with the right bait. If you are not doing both those things, you have no right to complain
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:19 PM
4

Women do the best they can, but with social media and online dating their options are much broader than they ever were. A hot girl in Iowa used to be limited to dating the town football hero, now she has rappers and entertainers and pro athletes in her DM‘s. She also has rich dudes willing to fly her out to Miami or LA. There’s basically nothing you can do to make women attracted to the bottom 80% so you need to turn yourself into the top 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:00 AM
1

How freaky are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 01:51 AM
11

An “average” not very relevant. There are some girls having a lot of sex, and some girls having very little or no sex. If one has 60 and one has 2, the average of 31 is not relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 04:19 AM
1

Yes, I never said this strategy was for average guys, you have to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 10:59 AM
2

It’s surprisingly easy to be a “low budget Leo”. Sugar babies are cheap or you can get a boat and have lots of weed on hand. It’s not that complicated
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 06:13 PM
1

That makes sense. I am on TRT and I have to closely monitor my hemocrit levels and donate blood every 8 weeks to minimize that risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 04:48 PM
1

True. I have a black guy at my gym that is 72 years old. In a sweat suit with a hat on he looks 35. He is still pretty ripped and does 3 sets of 15 pull ups with ease. With his hat off you can tell he is much older. I was shocked he was over 70.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 04:38 PM
3

Traveling abroad in college was very interesting. The girls were not the prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 07:04 AM
1

Who says they are not getting the results they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 12:01 AM
7

My experience with women when I was younger and younger women now that I am older is that they break down to about 3 groups. Group just isn’t attracted to older guys. Doesn’t matter the guy. Anyone over 35 is just not really a sexual entity in their mind. They think it’s gross. I estimate this is 25% of the population. Is willing to date an older guy and are attracted to them but he has to be a top 5% type guy with looks and status. They don’t prefer them but for the right guy they will deal wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 06:31 AM
1

Yes, for most men dating apps are a losing game.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 04:16 PM
6

You are playing a very stupid game. Stop flirting at work and tell them you don’t date coworkers. Women don’t take rejection well and it can easily cost you your career. If you need your ego stroked by women a few notches below you then do it with strangers on tinder or bumble. Better yet, find a new hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 04:12 PM
4

Out of all of the marriages and LTR’s I have winessed over the years I can recall 2 that seemed to be worthy of envy. The rest are somewhere between mediocre and horrific. Kids are awesome though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 11:35 PM
4

I actually think they do, or at least a lot of them do. I have an ex that I saw for three years that is now 29 and she’s freaking out. She’s a gorgeous girl from a shitty family and she has significant credit card debt. She is aware that is gonna be hard to get the kind of guy she wants going forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 07:47 PM
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True. I hate to be mean but it happened to my ex wife and I found some joy in it. She’s very pretty for 43 but bitchy and hard to deal with. After I left her she dated a bunch of people briefly and then linked up with her this guy who is on my level. He is as tall, attractive and makes similar money and has 2 kids. She was bragging on him really hard for 8/9 months then he dumped her for a 31 year old hairdresser. I never rubbed it in her face but I wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 07:31 PM
7

I know a UPS guy that slays. His route is heavy medical and dental offices, retail stores, restaurants, etc. I think he has banged every dental hygienist in a 5 mile radius. Speaking of weird status I started seeing this girl that was hot but really awkward. She’s a model but odd. She was nerdy growing up and was really into magic cards. We randomly ran into her old BF and he was like the king of the nerds. I was gently teasing her and she admitted he was really ugly but he was a bit older than …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 07:27 PM
6

I suspect you are young. As you get older status is clearer and easier to understand. I’ll give a recent example. I recently gave a presentation at a real estate conference with 5000+ attendees. There were 2000’ish people in the room for my break outs. I made one joke about being divorced and related a sales process to dating. 316 people connected with my on social media during or shortly after the presentation. 200 were women. 39 were young attractive women. Young being under 35. 17 were sugges…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 07:19 PM
1

I agree with you if your talking about strictly college aged women. The tipping point in my experience is 25/26. A 19/20 year old girl is more likely to be ok with sitting on lawn furniture in a empty apartment drinking sink water and watching her hot Bf play video games. When they hit 24/25/26 they are no longer interested in that type of guy and they date older. Then at 28/29/30 they try to find someone slightly closer in age for kids and marriage. There is a maturity gap between men and women…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 04:43 PM
0

Which of the men that I mentioned are Betas? I think you are confused or don’t know what you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 04:23 PM
4

At 21, 8 years is a large gap. At 27 it’s not. At 35 it really isn’t. The farther removed you are from HS the less a gap matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 06:01 AM
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They want to fuck you or they don’t. The argument you are making is pointless. Why they want to fuck you is nearly irrelevant as well. There are so few men that are just visual panty droppers without saying a word that it is pointless to discuss other than RP circle jerks. It’s .000001 of the world. The good news is that if you didn’t hit that genetic lottery, you can build status and bang a bunch of hotties.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 03:25 AM
0

Attraction is not just visual for women. They are not men. Attraction for women is a total package.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 03:11 AM
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Higher value 42 men are not in clubs and higher value women are not getting banged in bathroom stalls. We are clearly not talking about the same thing or running in the same circles. 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 03:09 AM
1

Look up Cristiano Ronaldo age 23 vs 33. Then factor in 100X more fame and a difference in net worth of about $400m. 90/100 women would take older version.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 03:03 AM
2

Circle back when you are 27
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:52 AM
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Google the pictures. You wanting it to be true doesn’t make it so. Men just mature much later. Generally speaking 25 year old men can’t dress, bad haircuts, spotty hygiene, and are addicted to video games, weed and porn. Women date older guys for many reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:37 AM
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The last 10 sexiest men alive are 35-49. There is a difference between a fit 35+ year old and a guy in his early 20’s. Mature muscle looks different and it attracts women. Think Adam Levine at the Super Bowl or Idris Elba. Then go look up a picture of those guys at 25. Most women will take the older version.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:29 AM
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Disagree. I hate this terminology but a 42 year old alpha is much more so than a 25 year old “alpha”. That’s like an alpha puppy. The grown man has been at it longer and have more status, more money, more experience, more everything. And these days the older guy is in TRT and HGH and so there isn’t a big physical drop off.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 01:52 AM
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Both sexes age. The things that make men attractive are less tied to looks and more tied to competency, status, brains, money, etc. Fair or not, much of women’s value to the opposite sex is tied to youth, beauty and fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 01:42 AM
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Why get worked up over what other consenting adults want to do. He likes younger women, they like him, the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:34 PM
3

I agree. I had way too much time in my hands yesterday during a long layover at the Dallas airport. I was looking to see who I would bang out of every woman that walked by. Childish I know but I had a few hours on my hands and my phone was recharging. I was at 5% that I would have really wanted to have sex with and 15% that I “would” based on circumstances. I would even argue that the sample group was more attractive than the general public because there are people that can afford to fly. I know…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 08:39 PM
1

Sure. As long as I get to hammer her fingers a few times a month and maybe throw a handful of sawdust in her eyes so she knows what it feels like for me to earn a living. Does that sound fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 09:51 PM
1

Sex is expected in adult romantic relationship. If one or both parties don’t want to sleep with each other then they should be free to have sex outside the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 08:16 PM
1

Not very
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 01:13 AM
3

The “study” that is often referred to was from a “happiness expert” who concluded that single childless women were the happiest subgroup based off of the American Time Use Survey having them doing fewer unpaid household chores than married people. The ATUS is a survey not a study. It’s junk science leading women down a lonely path.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 06:02 AM
2

The biggest challenge are women that understand the time involved in these careers are going to require them to be selfless and independent. High stress, long hours, an often unrelenting work load. Many woman like the status and money but quickly grow tired of the loneliness and doing things on their own. If you have kids, he’s not going to come home and do half the household chores during a 60-70 hour week. “Getting the guy” isn’t the hard part.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 03:55 AM
1

I agree with you that is probably an overblown concern for most men but it’s cheap easy to do so you might as well make it an automatic part of the birthing process. It’s a pretty devastating situation for the men that were fooled and it’s easily avoidable
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 01:29 AM
1

Yes. The most valid part of RP ideology is that you need to be the best version of yourself. Women owe you nothing. You have to create value in yourself for any of the other ideas to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 04:58 PM
2

Obviously everyone would want the total package but there are so few of them running around that most people need to settle somewhere and you are 💯 better off erroring on the side of the Madonna and the Beta Bucks for a long term situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:34 AM
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I am not one of these guys that will tell you to just be yourself… but being a fake bad boy isn’t a winning recipe. It’s just not that easy. If you don’t have any dog in you, wondering into an mma gym isn’t end well for you. A haircut and some tattoos do not a bad boy make. You’ll look like a gay porn star. You can’t have a DGaF attitude if you actually do GAF. My advice is to maximize what you really are. If you are a stem nerd, then be the best version of a stem nerd you can be. Work out, dece…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:21 AM
1

Exactly, but I feel bad for it being more important than this nice woman’s feelings… but eventually I would resent it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 06:52 AM
2

I’m a guy but I agree with this philosophy. Creating a strong bond then having bad sex is the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:18 AM
2

80% of women being attractive is way off. Way off. Even an elitist sorority at a large university would struggle to hit 60%.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:27 AM
3

It was a slightly extreme example but Yes, there are rich guys that will do a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 04:12 PM
3

She wouldn’t need to lie or call it cheating because I’d be cool with it. It’s just not the same in my eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:41 AM
1

Even a fairly good size city is a small world when you were young and dating. Even smaller with your whole life being blasted on social media. You know who is she or has been hanging with and you know how they are. It’s not really that hard to add things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:37 AM
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If you’re sleeping with everybody else on the first date, but you want to make me wait… I am not playing like that. Go find a different chump. You have chosen your path and you are not going to change it up with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:21 AM
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Maybe that’s true, but if he was extremely generous with every girl that he has dated right up until he started dating you… I’m sure you would not be super happy about that. You would want the connection and great conversations AND him to be generous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:17 AM
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I’m sure you wouldn’t care that he was extremely generous with every girl before you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:15 AM
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From a man’s eyes, this is not ridiculous at all and over the course of a long-term relationship he will take her shopping and to a nice restaurant, and get her a massage…. Over time. There’s plenty of time for all that later.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 02:21 AM
1

Yes… from your dog. Dogs are the best
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:51 AM
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I took Stacey out last Saturday. I scheduled a massage and spa day for her and her bff till about 4. Then we went to the mall, bought her anything she wanted. She got like 10 outfits and some jewelry and LV purse. Then we went to her favorite restaurant and a moonlit walk in the beach. I set up a little non fire and we made s’mores and cuddled. I just kinda spoiled her because I knew it was short term and I didn’t have to worry about setting the bar too high. It will never happen again so I don’…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:48 AM
1

Agreed, but there are ways to shoot your shot quickly and directly and move on if she isn’t responding positively.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:22 PM
3

I don’t see any of those preferences as immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:09 AM
3

Yes. There are outliers but for a very, very high percentage of couples the frequency and intensity of sex and BJ’s drop off a ton after marriage. I would strongly suggest not going into thinking you will be one of the outliers. If your girl is one of the special ones with a high sex drive you would not have to ask this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 10:47 PM
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I think it would be a bumpy transition but at the end of the day it would be better for everybody to be honest. Compassionate, but honest. I’ve done fairly well with women over the course of my life because I had five sisters and they didn’t hold back. If I wore a stupid outfit or got about a bad haircut I was immediately be laughed at and told how to fix it. “You look stupid, go change.” Did you shower? “Shower again , gross” Of course it’s a little bit embarrassing in junior high and high scho…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 12:42 AM
1

I have a friend that is a SAHD. He was quite successful attorney ($250K’ish) but he married a woman who is one of the top plastic surgeons with a large surgery center with multiple other doctors and a med spa. She brings home like $3M a year. Obviously he was going to quit his job. He worked a lot more hours and made 10% of what she makes. He likes it and does a good job with it. He is very involved coaches all the kids sports. He says it takes him a few hours a day to do the household stuff. He…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 07:55 PM
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You are correct that it is much easier to play women that care a lot about money. I have been blessed in life and have been successful: I happen to own a 72’ boat in the most exclusive marina in San Diego. I live in the Bay Area but I’m down there twice a week and I stay on the boat. When I am not there I have given my yacht captain freedom to rent it out. 90% of our rentals never leave the dock. It’s just older dudes trying to get laid late at night. He charges $1500 for 2 hours. Another $4k if…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 08:06 AM
2

It sounds like they are on the right track
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:43 AM
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I just don’t get the sense that you have much experience with this. Girls with a lot of sexual experience are not harder to pleasure. They are more open mentally and physically and know what works for them. You sound young and insecure. .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:34 AM
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You suggested a higher body count = a worse sexual experience for men and is not accurate. It can cause other relationship issues but it is not a worse sexual experience
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:09 AM
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It’s not terrible but it’s not that great either. You take the lead and they go along for the ride, they are not bringing much to the table
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:20 AM
0

Let’s Me know you have never banged a proper slut. Their experience helps a lot of people, just don’t marry her
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:18 AM
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Nope. I’m 44 years old. I have a build and a mental make up where I either have to do this or I’ll eat like a pig and blow up. My peak was 340. My compulsions can manifest in exercise or enjoying food and alcohol excess.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 02:22 AM
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No, but I earn a lot. I am more attracted to girls that are focused on their friends and family. I care that they contribute in a lot of ways that are not financial
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 11:12 PM
1

Nobody can really tell you without seeing pictures of you, getting a clearer understanding as to what “somewhat” picky looks like to you, knowing where you live (rural or urban) etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 04:20 PM
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A lot more men lift weights so they are statistically in the fat category. On paper I am obese at 6’5 240lbs but I’m 12% body fat, I have visible abs and vascular arms. That’s much less common in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 04:17 PM
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How often does a man settle down with a plain, chubby woman and jerk off to swimsuit models ? 💯 of the time. Nobody wants below average, even those that are below average
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 04:10 AM
2

I think it goes both ways but maybe not equally. I’m 44 and divorced with two kids and there were things I would tolerate at 22 that I would not tolerate for a minute now. I have also been with so many beautiful woman that I am no longer blinded by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 06:25 PM
2

I will say that I do get much better dating advice from lesbians or bisexual women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:49 PM
1

The easy solution is not to be average. Be in the top 20% and it’s much easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 06:57 PM
0

Women won’t be friends with a Man they cannot receive some benefit from. Neither will men. The fact is that there are very few ways an unattractive woman can benefit a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:31 AM
2

Neither. Sexual attraction and chemistry in and out of the bedroom is needed
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:03 AM
1

I disagree. The stuff men put up with is never ending
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 06:26 PM
1

No… and we give far more leeway and tolerance to very attractive women. I spend about 3 hours a week talking about acrylic nails (her job) with a girl because she is hot and she lets me have sex with her. She is a solid 9 and a 15 out of 10 in bed. If she were less attractive or less skilled I would not have had a second conversation with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 05:58 PM
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You need to learn to not let them treat you like one of their girlfriends. If they are doing this it means that they don’t view you as a sexual entity. Just say “you should talk to your girlfriends about this”.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 12:38 AM
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A man cannot put himself in the friend zone. A man can accept being in the friend zone or not. The woman makes that decision. If/when a woman decides to move a friend into a romantic situation it’s usually a form of settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 11:27 PM
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I think this digs a little too deep and is based in experience of men who fail with women. Attraction is number 1. A little bit of a challenge is always attractive. In both sexes. Someone who is easily attainable is less attractive. We have all known women that were looking for a boyfriend and who the boyfriend was mattered little. Same with guys that will bang anything, if he is dipping down below their level than girls see it as gross. If a guy is highly desired by multiple high caliber women …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 08:01 PM
2

When you hit a certain income level all dating is sugar dating, so you might as well get exactly what you want because you are spending the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 04:14 AM
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I think it is reasonable for a woman to want to be in an exclusive relationship before having sex. Fool around a bit before to make sure that chemistry is good but otherwise 4/5 dates over 6 weeks is not unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 01:15 AM
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Agreed. I’m not sure what’s happened in the world but I have parents do you think I’m crazy for letting my 13 and eight-year-old run wild in the guard gated and patrolled community we live in that has zero crime. I’m grateful that I grew up in a time where I could be a free range kid till 9 o’clock at night in the summers
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 08:40 PM
0

Post divorce I primarily date in Sugar daddy/Sugar baby relationships. Once you make a lot of money then all dating becomes sugar dating and it all pretty much costs the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 06:51 PM
1

You are mischaracterizing what I said. I say daily duties taking 2 hours I meant house work… not time with your children.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 05:54 PM
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I don’t know your environment but most of the people in my world are not terrible parents. They put a ton of time and energy into their children. If anything there is probably too much helicopter parenting and not enough letting kids be kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 02:39 PM
0

Yes, infants are different but that is a very small window. 2-2.5 years and then they are better off getting social interaction at daycare. I know SAHM’s whose youngest is 12 and they are acting like they are busy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 02:37 PM
1

It’s human nature and can’t be avoided
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 04:25 AM
0

We all have different capacities and abilities to plan and get things done. Some people over complicate things. For me, just being a SAHP of two kids would be incredibly easy and quite boring. If you are going full speed it would take 2 hours a day max of actual work. If I clean and fold 4 loads of laundry I am only counting the actual work, I’m not claiming I did laundry for 5 hours. I have a friend down the block that is a SAHD and he plays 4 rounds of golf a week and is a +2 handicap. He make…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 02:49 AM
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This runs counter to my experience with sexually adventurous women and I have a lot of experience with them. I played college and professional baseball, worked at clubs and now I am older and have been a sugar daddy for a decade. I can’t even begin to count. I love bad girls. I do care about them and have kept in touch with many of them so I have seen the transition from early 20’s party girl to mid 30’s mother and wife. Sexually driven women remain sexually driven even once they settle down int…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 10:23 PM
0

I have run two businesses with 40 total employees from home since covid started. I coach every sport. I have a maid that comes through twice a month and an occasional sitter but for the most part it’s me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 08:01 PM
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I’m a full time single dad of two and I know exactly how much time and effort everything takes… being a SAHP is not as hard as most make it out to be
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 07:21 PM
11

This sounds great in theory but when he finishes his daily chores in an hour and a half max and enjoys the rest of the day you would be feeling differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:22 PM
1

I think it’s only fair she does at least 50%. It would be totally rude and demanding of her to expect him to put in a full day. That’s almost abusive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:19 PM
2

I think a lot of recently divorced women date younger guys for awhile and I think women prefer older men at certain points in their life. And “older” is relative as you age. A 28 year old man is older to a 22 year old woman. Most guys are immature and don’t have much to offer until their early/mid 30’s and then are attractive into their 50’s if they stay fit and are successful. When you hit the 60’s + women are wary of any kind of health issue that slows men down. It’s all about staying in shape…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:51 AM
1

I’m not asking for a chance. This is a mutual interviewing process. Any guy begging for a chance isn’t going to get one
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:11 AM
1

Women have ended things mentally long before they actually end things. It feels fast because for them it has been over for months
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 01:22 AM
2

You are young or competing on the low end of the IQ pool. Or maybe you are not the catch you think and need to make some adjustments.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 03:26 AM
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Good luck with that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 01:51 AM
2

Find a different outlet. A close male friend, a mentor, a professional counselor. Nothing good comes from being emotional with your woman. The very best possible outcome is neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 01:40 AM
1

As a guy, just don’t do it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 01:21 AM
2

RP would give you the advice that we would also give to men… work on yourself until you are desirable. Get in shape, find a flattering style, feed your brain to be more interesting, be positive and uplifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 12:34 AM
1

True, I’m talking about those that do try… it still just gets harder after 40. I’m 44 and have seen 6/7 of my friends wives give in during covid. They were slim and attractive and now they are puffy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 10:50 PM
2

Women are like cats and men are like dogs. The harder you try with a woman the faster she runs away. Pretend to ignore them will dangling a little string out there to play with and they will be purring in your lap.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 06:47 AM
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There is a weight and a level of responsibility that you can only feel as the boss. My employees and their families rely on me. Their kids and wives know me. Making it all happen and making big payrolls is not always easy. I have about $390k in AR outstanding that I need to collect this week for payroll on the first and being nice doesn’t always work for that. I would in a stressful situation like that and my EX would compound it by complaining about everything. Life is so much easier without he…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:24 AM
4

I own a few businesses and make between $750-900k/year. Ex wife wondered why I had to work so much and couldn’t be home by 5pm everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 11:18 PM
2

I don’t think women really care what a virgin dude wants… unless they want the guy. In that case they will just lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:21 AM
1

Or 5 friends across the club. Anytime you get grown men going at it there is the potential for major damage. Even if you “win” there are often injuries. It’s not like TV.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:41 PM
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Yes, the girls would realize way too late what they have done. And their version of the story never included them escalating it or throwing gas on the fire. I never lied for them, I would always tell the police or the guys family and friends exactly what happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:50 PM
2

I was a bouncer for several years. I would need 4 hands to count the number of men I have seen beaten to sleep because their big mouth woman started and/or escalated a dangerous situation. 90% of women do not understand real male violence. 90% of those women had a look on their that they knew it had gotten way out of control and escalated way beyond what they expected. Many of these men didn’t want to fight and the woman forced their hand. I would need another 4 hands to count how many times I s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:48 PM
1

You have no argument here. The scenario is laid out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:38 AM
1

Reread the post, he clearly stated that she slept with his friend for revenge. Those words.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:33 AM
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All the post said was it was a friend. A friend banging an immediate ex is trashy. An ex targeting a friend out of spite is trashy. What he did was wrong. ESH, the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:26 AM
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It’s the spitefulness, not moving on. If a GF did something messed up and we broke up and then I banged her little sister strictly as revenge, that’s different. It’s extra trashy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:09 AM
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It challenges their martyrdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 11:41 PM
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Her goal was to hurt him and she did. She should not then be surprised when he is hurt when that was the desired outcome. It was intentionally more disrespectful by design. Not saying he didn’t deserve it but don’t act shocked when the desired outcome is
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 09:38 PM
0

I saw much to his point, she was operating purely out of spite with the intent to hurt him and he was trying to get laid. I’m not saying he didn’t deserve it, but they’re not the same thing. He was not operating out of spite and trying to hurt and embarrass her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:57 PM
3

I would say diminishing returns after a certain point but certainly not terrible returns. Once you hit 10% body fat with some muscular definition and a V taper you are fine. Think of swimmer or water polo player. There are some girls that like gorillas, I am a gorilla, but most girls are not super attracted to that. They all like feeling safe or even untouchable but that doesn’t mean their preferred aesthetic is a muscle head. There are certainly women who like skinny musicians with painted nail…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 04:37 PM
1

I am not sure where you guys live but I don’t see this play out at all. You see a lot of attractive people with average looking people and there is plenty of intermingling.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 10:04 PM
1

Yes. There’s a thin line between love and hate but there’s nothing positive associated with boredom
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 09:01 PM
1

You want unconditional love and validation… get a dog. Will never get it long term from a woman. It’s not your choice to swallow the red pill… some woman will do it to you. You will eventually feel enough pain to get there. It’s not in your hands.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/22 11:14 PM
1

Status is very specific to the individual, anyone can have status but they can’t have status in any situation they want. Example. I have a close friend there is a marathon runner and leads a running club in my city.. within the community he is very high status and dates a lot of attractive younger women that are into running. Outside of that community, he is a 5’6 130 lb high school teacher that doesn’t make a lot of money. I’m 6’5 235, muscular and I make a lot of money… but in their world my s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 08:26 PM
2

Be better. Maximize your looks, style and status. If you have no made every effort to maximize your current situation then you should stop complaining and focus on improving yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 02:06 AM
1

These women don’t seem happy about it. https://youtu.be/HyI4IZApnBM
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:53 AM
5

Just use common sense and you know women talk quite a bit more. Think of your parents and grandparents.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:56 AM
6

Any human being on the planet knows that that is not true. Pennebaker used less than 400 college students and estimated. Do an actual count of men over 30 years old vs women the same age and it will blow it out of the water. I’m a adjunct professor teaching a 3 hour night class. Watching the class on break is hilarious. The girls barely stop to breathe they are talking so fast and 90% of the guys don’t say a word. The 10% of men that do talk don’t shut up. “Researchers used this device to collec…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:24 AM
4

Women use 20,000 words a day, often venting, cry weekly, yet they think men don’t do much emotional labor. 😂😂😂.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 06:11 PM
1

It’s better for them to think you are inexperienced rather than just bad in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 02:57 AM
1

Of course not, but raw animal attraction and great sexual chemistry can make a lot of other short comings easily tolerable. It’s a very big thing in terms of long term compatibility. A very big thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:29 AM
1

We all have particular likes and dislikes but the likely hood of a man that only appeals to a small percentage is ladies being appealing to his spouse for 20+ years is really, really slim.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:33 AM
1

That’s not really how it works. The percentage of men who are flat out physically desirable is pretty small. Like 10% max.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:29 AM
1

I don’t think I would want to be a woman under almost any circumstance, I enjoy having a calm peaceful brain. Their anxiety and non stop hamster brains would drive me insane. The constant search for something to worry and complain about would do me in.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 10:59 PM
1

What world do you live in?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 10:24 PM
2

I think the move will be to not be average or ugly. In 2022 there is no reason to be either. It may take a lot of effort (like women put in). Diet, exercise, skin care, clothing, styling, plastic surgery, etc. 95% of people can make themselves into being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 10:17 PM
1

Would you rather have a man you don’t have to worry about because other women are not interested or a man that physically turns you on and happens to attract other women as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:31 PM
3

Nobody cares what you think about age gap relationships, if you don’t like older guys then don’t date them. Your preferences mean nothing to a girl that likes older guys or younger guys
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:11 AM
13

In the porn world, 27 is a milf
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:30 AM
2

As a test I posted my credit score and bank and investment statement and got a ton of matches and conversations. Women care about that but it’s much better to be used for your body
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:43 AM
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They want a hot husband… but they don’t want to put it the work it takes to keep a hot husband. Same with men, they want a hot wife then they complain about the time and expense involved in having a hot wife. I don’t believe they are happier with a less attractive man. They may feel more comfortable and have less anxiety but they are not happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 05:40 AM
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Strongly disagree as a 43 year old guy that probably has a slightly wider scope. I know musicians that get lots of women. I know a 5’7” 135 lb elite distance runner that has a ton of women. I know a bunch of guys of all types that do well with women. You need to have status within your niche.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 12:33 AM
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Because most people don’t study for 16-20 year and take on low/mid six figures in student loan debt to quit after 4 years and never return to the profession full time. That would not be a smart life plan for people of well above average intelligence
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 08:51 AM
2

You are suggesting all 40% (or even half) are married with kids within 4 years of licensing? Unlikely. Very unlikely
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:59 AM
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It’s not work that can cover their student loans. We are talking about 40%, not some minor outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:47 PM
0

Read the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 09:40 PM
2

For all this talk about it women earning more, etc… 76% of six figure earners are men. That’s not a theory, that’s the facts. Women generally don’t want to work full time, 40 hours a week from age 20-65. 40% of female attorneys, doctors and engineers are not practicing full time 4 years after getting licensed. They just are not built for it and they don’t want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 09:39 PM
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Upfront honesty. “I am not in a place for a committed, monogamous relationship. I would love to date and have fun with you but I don’t want to mislead you in any way.” You would be surprised with how many women are ok with that if you are direct and honest. Many women will not be interested and that’s ok too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:19 PM
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Jeff Bezos really settled imo. All exaggerating aside… a man that really has his stuff together in his late 30’s has a lot of options. Maxed out looks/fitness, grooming, nice home, finances in order, etc. Those guys will have options they didn’t have at 25. I see this a lot with Indian and asian men in the Bay Area, they don’t really come into their own until they hit 35’ish.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:27 PM
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I live in San Francisco.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:14 PM
1

That was an extreme example of what one women enjoyed that I would never just test the waters for with another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:14 PM
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I’m 43, HNW and I know two dozen guys dating or married to women 10+ years younger. Many are second wives. Do you see how our personal experiences is near worthless? Especially at 20. When you are 30 that tune will change. I can’t speak for the average guy, my advice for men is to not be average.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:11 PM
1

It sounds like that is working out really well for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 03:09 PM
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Expecting people to pick up non verbal cues is probably part of your problem if this is a consistent and recurring issue for you. Tell people what works for you and what you enjoy. “Good at sex” is subjective. One girl may love very aggressive sex while others would be terrified. Just trying things and seeing what the reaction is can kill the deal completely. They can feel violated or scared by a large man doing things to see how they react. The consensus is that I am a very good lover. Mostly b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 02:48 PM
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I don’t really agree, Depends on their stage in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:20 PM
3

Aggressive and dominate up front but in a longer term relationship you mix it up
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 11:06 PM
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That would be suggesting those girls, who are generally quite desirable with a lot of options, would be pairing up with guys that can’t pull less desirable ladies. That’s unlikely. This group of girls are dating the top 10% of their age range/slightly older along with sugar daddy’s. I will admit there are a lot of naive young boyfriends out there that have no idea their GF is a sugar baby or they believe “he just gives me money to hang out, I don’t have to do anything.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:29 PM
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I only had that issue with one relationship, my 16 year marriage where we had an amazing sex life for 6 years pre kids, then pretty good for the next 5 years with one kid… then after the second kid, life stress and and just general incompatibility it turned into a dead bedroom. Now 4 years after divorce we will bang a few times a year. We hate each other, but that kind of makes it better. The key is to be good at sex (aka she gets off every time) and mix it up. Be fun. Stay physically attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:21 PM
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No, most men don’t want women who let themselves go. 40 just happens to be around when most women stop trying as hard. Shorter hair, glasses (not the good kid) less flattering clothes, extra weight, less feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:23 AM
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I am a 43 year old SD that dates girls in their mid 20’s… but it’s ridiculous to suggest this is an issue for your average guy and girl. This world is becoming more mainstream but it’s still probably less than 3% of all girls in that age range. While some younger women love older guys it is a very small percentage and an even lower percentage that act on it. Quit making excuses, build yourself into someone women would want. There are a dozen ways to do that and only a few of them require excepti…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:20 AM
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There are many levels of sugar dating from near escort experiences to a regular Girls that don’t want money but they also don’t want to sift through broke guys on other dating apps. For me sugar dating is by far the best situation. First, if you are a fairly wealthy guy then all dating is sugar dating. If you make $800k and she makes $50k… are you really going to split any expenses? Are you going to send her a Venmo request for her half of the weekend getaway cost? Of course not. Second, you get…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:07 PM
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If you’re really rich, you do whatever you want, and marry who you want. Ronaldo had infinite options and picks a girl working retail
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:47 AM
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My ex wife has found to very difficult to find someone that matches up with me. She thought her dating options as a 40 yo SAHM with 2 kids would be similar to when she was 22 and we met. She is a beautiful women but higher value guys are turned off by a woman that’s living off her ex-husband. She pretended to be an interior designer for a while but They saw through that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:36 AM
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Correct. If I were suggesting my ideal timeline it would be getting married at 25/26 and kids starting at 28. Gives you time to have fun in early 20’s but you can still land a quality partner and be a youthful parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:31 PM
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I know it doesn’t work this way for most women but think about If You can settle down and have a lot of sex with your one person. You could have it all
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:25 PM
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10% or less. Some people are just really clingy and will do whatever it takes to keep someone around
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:13 PM
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In the dating world self fulfilling prophecies are the norm. If you are attracted to a certain type and then expect results that are different from that type… it’s on you. I like slutty bad girls and I am entirely unsurprised when they behave like slutty bad girls. It comes with the territory. Women want a edgy bad boy that every girl wants but they have dreams of taming him and turning him into sweet little puppy dog just for them. They adopt pit bulls and expect them to act like golden retriev…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 06:52 AM
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Yes. Sex and physical intimacy is fairly high up there on mazlows hierarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 04:45 AM
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This can’t be serious
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 05:40 PM
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I think many men make assumptions about what women want or will accept and lie/cheat based upon those assumptions. Women love watching The Bachelor for a reason. If you are honest that you have a bunch of options but you would settle down with the right girl then they know the score. They love to compete in the beginning. When I was young I assumed I knew what women wanted and tried to create fairy tail situation’s rather than just asking for what I want and seeing if they would go along. Now th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:12 PM
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Useless but they mean well. Very few women are even conscious of what works on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 03:39 AM
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Yes, plenty of them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 08:18 PM
2

There are not millions of women than can land a billionaire or even deca millionaire boyfriends and husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 12:44 AM
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It’s pointless to discuss outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 12:20 AM
1

They don’t just wonder into billionaires
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 10:48 PM
1

This is the answer
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 10:47 PM
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Not every hot girl is a neurotic energy vampire. I know a lot of stunning late bloomers that are cool people that just happen to be very attractive. Not every successful guy is a type A workaholic. Not everything is as back and white in real life as it is on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:57 AM
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Yes, the risk is very manageable
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:36 PM
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I think differently. I think most smart girls factor in a man’s ability to provide for a family at the level she would like. I don’t blame them at all. Just like a man may look at a girls mom to see how her genetics will fare over her he next 30 years. I think gold diggers are women that will be with a man they don’t like or respect for money and if a guy can’t sniff that out then it’s on him. Yes, all girls want a nice life… no shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 11:09 PM
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MGTOw plus sex workers and the way to go. Get what you want when you want it, no more no less
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 08:31 PM
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I don’t cheat anymore, I’m just strait up that I’m For the streets
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 07:46 PM
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It’s cold but true. It’s human nature. No matter how much you love your favorite video game, you wouldn’t want to play it for the rest of your life with no other games. You would eventually get bored and stop
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 07:00 PM
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I would suggest that your situation is an is an outlier more so than I was overgeneralizing. In 2013, AARP reported that in a study of over 8,000 people over 50 years old conducted by sociologists Pepper Schwartz, Ph.D., and James Witte, Ph.D., 31% of couples have sex a few times a week, 28% of couples have sex a few times a month, 8% of couples have sex once a month, and 33% of couples rarely or never have sex. 33% Are not having sex at all, and you have to assume there’s a bias in who would re…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:29 PM
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I’m not really interested in teenage girls. My floor is about 25. Thats when they start having interests that could match mine
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 04:17 AM
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It’s more like 4 years or kids but I didn’t want to sound too bitter. I have sugar babies and honestly after the initial arrangement is set it’s just like regular dating. Except they are always putting their best foot forward because they want to keep you. The sexual chemistry is just like any other relationships assuming you make efforts to be good in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 04:09 AM
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Probably, I’m a guy but I am very OCD about hygiene and cleanliness and nearly every girl I have been with has commented on it. Me personally and my house and car. I grew up poor/semi neglected and was teased ruthlessly for dirty clothes and hair before I was old enough to do that stuff myself. Now I probably go overboard the other way. A lot of guys are pretty gross. Some barely rinse off at the gym and jump strait into work clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 01:49 AM
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Sex workers desire you about as much as your wife does after seven years. That’s the cold hard truth. They might actually desire you more because you’re better than the other options that are coming to see them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:34 PM
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I don’t know both sides but she got married at 20 to the only guy she had ever dated then started having kids while he had a job that traveled a lot. Not an easy life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:46 AM
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I’m not mad at all 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:36 PM
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You don’t really understand female nature till you are late 30’s early 40’s and are watching how a woman behaves post divorce with money in her pocket. Saying they have grown out of anything by 20 is laughable. I know 35 year old separated Mormon mothers of 5 that are going through a hoe phase that would make a porn star blush.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:34 PM
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Women are very complicated yet simple. They are also very picky yet they will tolerate a bunch of shit. Just work on yourself and do what you want to do and the girl will come along or not. The less you try the better off you are
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:30 AM
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The logic is exactly what they said it was. Decide which guy you want to be in that equation and act accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:11 PM
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Post divorce I learned that. I date super hot sugar babies that are 15-20 years younger and it’s an incredible ROI. I get exactly what I want with a very little wasted time and they are happy as can be. Best relationships I have had by far.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 04:47 AM
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Multiple businesses including construction, real estate, insurance, cannabis, bar/restaurant, franchises for hair, lashes and take and bake pizza High-performing men are the least loyal but you can hedge against with their compensation structure. Recognition and respect is important everybody. The hardest businesses to manage were all female. With insurance I had 40 old ladies going to war with each other all the time over the thermostat. The hair and lash salons were straight up cat fights on a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:46 AM
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Correct, there are reasons but it doesn’t change the facts and it doesn’t change the job I need done and the deadlines I need met. In the moment, it’s very frustrating for me. After the fact it’s easy to reflect and cool down a little bit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:09 AM
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My data point is 900 employees over a long period of time. Women miss more work days than men. There are explanations for it but it’s factual. https://www.livescience.com/2047-women-expected-work-men.html
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:08 AM
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That employee count is over the course of owning multiple small companies are and employing a bunch of admin roles. I’m not bashing women, cause I’m on my best employees of all time we’re women, but I also miss a lot more work and make a lot of excuses… As a whole
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:28 AM
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As someone who has had about 900 employees over the past 20 years… your opinion that women are more consistent will be strongly tested. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:02 AM
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Not all degrees are created equal. I’ll be kind and not elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:58 AM
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I think the guy controls the vibe. If you are a stiff square then she will hold back not wanting to freak you out… but if you are a freak then she is comfortable letting it fly. You are the man, lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 07:54 PM
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Go in circles about the specific reasons but it all boils down to one thing… the reward simply isn’t that big in comparison to the risks. How often have you met a 55 year old women and thought… “I would really happy if I was married to someone like that one day”. No need to bash women but it’s not like they get better with age. Their gifts to a relationship are not enhanced after 35/40. Why tie yourself down to that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 05:28 PM
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You got it. Men don’t have the out of just marrying a high income spouse and moving on with their lives. Many women do
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:22 PM
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What do you think the number 1 predictor of divorce is? https://thebigsmoke.com/us/amp/2016/12/29/harvard-study-finds-job-loss-number-one-reason-divorce/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:46 AM
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Women that are smart enough to graduate in those fields are also smart enough to figure out how to not have to work 60 to 80 hours a week. They put in a few years then realize it was nothing like they expected and come up with an exit strategy. Most Men are in too deep to escape. Picture a man telling his wife “law just isn’t what I thought it would be. I really want to be a high school history teacher. I know I owe $100k+ in student loans but this is my calling. The law job is killing me slowly…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:27 AM
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BPD is the ultimate bait and switch. During the idealization phase the women bend over backwards to hook you. They do anything and everything to create an intense connection. There are some red flags if you know what to look for but for the most part the shit show is well hidden for several months. It’s not some thing guys line up for from day 1. They would run away.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 11:04 PM
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Where was I wrong? Facts are not demonization, it’s basic math. The premise of the op was women dominating college and the economy and I provided an accurate counterpoint as to why that will never happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 03:50 PM
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I’ll save you the time… Your argument got shredded and you are too lazy to read and … supports my position.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 03:48 PM
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Whatever the reason is, they quit. After years of education and hundreds of thousands of dollars they quit. They don’t produce. Women get 20% of engineering degrees and only make up 11% of the workforce. Nearly half quit. 80% of engineering degrees go to men and they make up 89% of the workforce… they grind it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 03:47 PM
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https://uwm.edu/news/why-women-leave-engineering/ The question prompted Fouad to join with Singh – an associate professor in the Lubar School of Business who focuses on organizational behavior and human resources – for a groundbreaking study. Published in 2012, their National Science Foundation-funded work explored why women with engineering degrees leave the field. Although women had earned 20 percent of the engineering degrees awarded over the previous 20 years, they made up only 11 percent of…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:14 AM
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I did, and I’m wondering why this would be for women only. Then again the whole premise is wrong so it doesn’t matter
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:33 AM
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Here you go sugar https://hbr.org/2016/08/why-do-so-many-women-who-study-engineering-leave-the-field And yes, a large majority of my business comes from probate, bankruptcy and divorce attorneys and a large percentage of my investor clients are in the medical field. As I am in real estate and construction, I also deal with engineers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:31 AM
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I’m not, I own a few businesses. But that doesn’t make me wrong. 30% quit… 40%+ go part time. Nearly half wash out in 4 years. https://scholarship.law.uci.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1442&context=ucilr
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 05:57 AM
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It will never happen, because they don’t like to do hard things for long periods of time. “College” it’s not equal, most are getting soft science degrees. The women they control much of the economy or little old ladies that outlasted their husbands, not “boss babes”. The highest and women they go in the medicine and law and engineering, half of them quit within four years of getting licensed. Men will grind out difficult, unrewarding jobs for 45 years because it needs to be done and it pays well…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 03:49 AM
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I’m a man but Over the long run, there isn’t much that can compensate for a sub par lover. Regardless Of physical attributes one can get good at pleasing another person if they care to try. Oral, toys, whatever… you need to get your partner off. Having sex without an orgasm is not cool and it gets less cool over time. I’m 43, I date girls in their mid/late 20’s. Most of them have quietly suffered through bad sex in boring relationships with selfish young men. They have all been with guys that we…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 07:47 PM
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For me it would be early 20s and out of the house with jobs that can sustain them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 06:38 PM
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At least his wife got his back. The guy I am friends with his wife turned on him like he was being selfish because he was hurt. That hurt him even worse. Being a step parent is a thankless job for both genders. I could never get serious with a single mom unless the kids were out of the house and very self sufficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 06:29 PM
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The mom gave the daughter the death stare or the step dad? I can’t imagine how painful that would be. Getting rejected by what feels your kid is a gut punch
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 05:55 PM
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This doesn’t mean that men were attracted to hairy women, it just means they didn’t have the option. Now that men have the option, they prefer their women hairless or near hairless.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:41 AM
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That’s a valid position in the beginning of a relationship but feelings tend to change over time when you are amongst their last considerations. Picture yourself living with and supporting her mid 20’s adult child (maybe with a SO and/or child) and her your ailing MIL. She added on a few more pets that you agreed to but you are caring for them. She pushed for a little more house than you can comfortably afford (needed more room for the extra people and pets) so you are stretched. She is working …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 04:02 PM
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Oh, he’s burned. He’s a nice person so he’s not cutting off the relationship but the bank is closed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 07:41 PM
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Understand that angle but the dad was MIA for 20 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:22 PM
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The dad was completely out of the picture for 20 years. No contact. He didn’t do all these things while she was seeing her bio dad every other weekend. He would have made different decisions had he been.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 04:37 PM
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When you say “statistically a lot of dads abandon their kids” you should probably provide the stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 04:35 PM
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Agreed, I have a single mom that I casually date and she’s super cool. Our sons are the same age so we do stuff together sometimes and also have adult time. Are kid free day Match up but that’s all it will ever be on both sides. They stayed with me for 2 weeks when her condo had a big water leak We were ready to strangle each other
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 02:53 AM
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Keep in mind I live in San Francisco. You got K-12 private schools at about 20 grand a year. Four years at St. Mary’s and grad school at Haas. Living expenses for seven years on top of tuition. Oh yeah, in about 34,000 for a semester at sea. As I said several times, this is not the only thing that had him upset but it was the last straw. At a certain point you have to quit chasing your losses.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 02:41 AM
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General ContracTor and yes, now i am overboard and say no to everything as a default
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 02:05 AM
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I am a licensed GC and I have a cabin in Tahoe… so I do a fair amount of both. When married my ex was so impressed with my skills she would volunteer me to help her friends. I also have several trucks and dump trailers so she volunteered those too. She was also quite the philanthropist when it was my money being donated. It’s a slippery slope
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 01:20 AM
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Did you imagine a male celebrity going on a talk she like this and talking about his ex-wife like that. Everybody would say he was an asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 12:44 AM
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None of this matters unless she is attracted to you. There is a big difference between a man that naturally has dark triad traits and some goober using PUA tactics. One is authentic not giving a shit and the other is pretending
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 12:07 AM
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It’s rejection, your immature if you can’t see that. The bio dad is mostly a non issue, it that his years of effort are disrespected or disregarded. As you would expect with a drifter/grifter that bailed for 20 years, the bio dad quickly let her down but the damage is done. The moral of this entire thread is that dating a single mom is a recipe for heartache and that’s what he got. I know several others that are bitter but nobody got taken like this guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:13 PM
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You are clearly not seeing the issue here. Most everyone else is. At least the men are. It’s not unlike regular adoptive parents that raise, feed and care for a child only to see them long for the POS parent that wants nothing to do with them except for the highlights.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:08 PM
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At least they made the decision easy for you. 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:05 PM
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I think it’s a normal human reaction to be hurt when you invested tens of thousands of hours and half a million dollars into a child you adopted and her bio dad that went MIA for 20 years reconnects and you are pushed to the back of the line... while you drop $60k on the wedding. Feeling used is normal. Of course the daughter can do what she likes and the mom can support it.. and he is free to feel like he his time, effort and money had been unappreciated so he can move on and look for someone m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:03 PM
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This is my read on the situation as well. The wrong kind of nice guy in women’s eyes. I tried to break him of his habit of covert contracts but he still does it. He’s slowly learning.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 08:31 PM
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He would agree with you at this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 08:17 PM
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I think It was the last straw. He was very, very hurt. He always suspected he was the third wheel in his own house and he was just being “a real man” and doing his job… but that made him feel like an ATM. The wife’s reaction hurt more than the mid 20’s daughter making an emotional decision. The wife could have backed his feelings and played peace maker and probably made things ok but she was wrapped up in the wedding and invalidated his feelings completely. It’s over. He lives 4 houses down and …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 08:17 PM
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He did.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 08:09 PM
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If you look at my post history going back years you will see I have two kids and was married for 16 years. But hey… enjoy your comic book conventions and the Cheesecake Factory… I’m sure you are a lady magnet. 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 07:31 PM
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Bro, your post history is all nerdy gamer shit and anger. Go get laid. Hire someone, you will be less angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:16 PM
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Yes, it will always be them and their kids vs the world. You are not on the life raft if things get rocky.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:07 PM
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You seem to be a try hard. I’m guessing you are young. I don’t see how this is anywhere near a fair trade.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 05:58 PM
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He’s learned. I learned the hard way as well. My son won’t have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 05:17 PM
9

Don’t know what to tell you, he didn’t. He’s not exactly a ladies man despite being successful, fit and decent looking. Good dude but not very aggressive in his personal life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:24 PM
9

Agreed. After my divorce I just have sugar babies. They are the most honest and real relationships I’ve experienced. Everything is out on the table from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:20 PM
3

I do actually know a couple that it worked out well. She worked for me part time for 6 years. The woman didn’t want to (or couldn’t) have kids but the guy had two boys that were 10 and 12. She jumped right in like a hard core stay at home mom. The boys took to her and it has worked well for 15+ years. He’s an attorney that works a ton and she the kind of supportive spouse he needed. She’s a Latina that was the oldest of 6 so she kinda had a head start on the mom skills. They are one of the few c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:19 PM
8

I don’t know. He was very engaged with this one. He was the guy coaching travel softball every weekend for about 9 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:14 PM
4

I have posted about it on Reddit before, and I can assure you it happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:24 PM
3

True, I’ve been there
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:22 PM
7

For some reason it seems easier for women, especially if the mom is out of the picture completely. A guy will let the step mom discipline them kids, a woman typically won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:18 PM
18

Between private school, college, grad school, wedding and life in general be probably spent over $400k on the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:11 PM
5

He knows. He’s a bit clingy and co-dependent. He knows he has a lot to work on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:54 PM
17

The main reason he can bail without getting killed is because she just inherited some money and got a promotion/raise so her income is decent. She will blow through the money in a few years but he will be better off
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:45 PM
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There were times along the way where he felt like a walking ATM but kinda figured that part of parenthood was thankless. That the girl would grow up and appreciate his efforts. He really did go all in, full adoption, coaching every sport, etc. Her asking the bio dad who popped into her life 18 months before was a kick in the balls but the real dagger was his wife not validating his feelings. He dropped $60k on a wedding that he didn’t enjoy one bit. She danced with both dads for the father daugh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:42 PM
21

True, but when they are your kids you don’t care. And you also have input and the ability to discipline. That doesn’t happen with step children.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:37 PM
0

That’s fair… if the partner is in fact putting in an 8 hour day while you are at work. It’s pretty amazing how much one can get done in 8 hours. Realistically there should not be any housework left to do except perhaps dishes after dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:27 PM
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Or just avoid the whole mess. He is a very kind guy that got taken for a ride.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:25 PM
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Are you ok with being 5th or 6th place on her list of priorities? That is about the best you will ever get. It certainly works for a FWB situation but not a real relationship. Being a step parent is possibly the most thankless job on the planet. You have all the responsibility of parenthood without any power to set expectations or enforce rules. I have a friend that married a single mom with a 6 year old daughter. He put her through private schools, college and grad school. He coached her sports…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:27 PM
1

Yeah. I don’t recall my mom or grandma having so much clutter and decorative junk. The pets are what really get me. I love dogs and have one but many of these older single women have multiple dogs and cats and they are not very good at cleaning up after them. I toured a $900k home today with a single empty nester. She had 2 large dogs and 2 cats. Carpet was a disaster. Yard has not been pooper scooped in months. Pool was turning green. Bathroom was a make up explosion. Clean laundry all over the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:04 AM
1

These stats are fabricated. Nearly 30% of American wives in heterosexual dual-income marriages earn more than their husbands, according to 2018 data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Women earn slightly over 50% of degrees… but that doesn’t relate to being the backbone of the workforce as nearly every physically demanding job is performed by a man without a degree., Women do more at home because they make their lives more complicated. They have 20 throw pillows, they decorate seasonally, they…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:46 PM
4

Women don’t need to know our struggles and don’t owe us anything. Once we accept that and work on ourselves getting laid takes care of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:53 PM
1

Every once I in awhile a good friend needs to jump on a grenade. I try to put those events out of my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 09:54 PM
1

Driving range/golf course cafe. There were two cute girls that used to go to the night driving range Near my house. They were clearly not golfers and were not trying very hard to be. They would hack a bucket of balls must mostly chat and be friendly. Eat hot dogs and drink beer. Both were attractive in their mid/late 30’s. They took it slow and got a lay of the land over the first month figuring which guys were legit or who was married or whatever. One was a realtor and the other worked in finan…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 12:17 AM
3

For a period of time yes… but usually eventually they get their heart ripped out and become RP’d.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:47 PM
1

There is not really ever a reason to respond with frustration. That is behaving with a scarcity mindset with in reality pretty girls are not a scarce commodity. Just move on to the next. When you are unfazed by the rejection it makes them think twice about it and they may open the door. If you act pissy they know they made the right call.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 08:56 PM
2

Exactly… and most of those illnesses are genetic so you are going to be dealing with it with your children as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:27 PM
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For me as long as the parents are financially stable and in a good relationship I would not consider a prior divorce a red flag. There are very valid reasons for divorce. This list is mostly a big picture of what’s gonna work in my experience. No one thing (other than mental illness) is a 100% deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:45 PM
3

Probably about right… so date more than 10 people between 18-30 and you will find one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:20 PM
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Sorry 🤷‍♂️, the stats are very strongly skewed. My dad was a scumbag too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:14 PM
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Sorry 🤷‍♂️. The statistics back up my statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:14 PM
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The sweet spot for marriage with women is between 3-9 prior partners. If they are virgins they are always wondering what else is out there. The wildest girls I meet on the divorced dating scene are Mormons. I would say at 3-5 partners they have enough experience to know what’s out there but they can still pair bond
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:13 PM
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You marry the family. If you and your spouse are the the only financially responsible people in the extended family you will have everyone coming to you for money, a place to live, etc when they hit tough times. Your MIL will likely be living with you for an extended period of time at some point. You can reject everybody but it will cause a lot stress within your marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:09 PM
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*happily married. I should have specified that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:04 PM
2

Is being over 25, mentally healthy and financially stable with stable families really that difficult? I didn’t do it but I wish I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:03 PM
1

If you or your partner have mental health issues that is probably wise
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:01 PM
2

Feel free to Google. The ones I know off the top of my head are mental health related. Divorce rates for bipolar and BPD are up to 90%. Age: 48 percent of those who marry before the age of 18 are likely to divorce within 10 years, compared to 25 percent of those who marry after the age of 25. 44. 60 percent of couples married between the age of 20 -25 will end in divorce “Financial disagreements did predict divorce more strongly than other common problem areas like disagreements over household t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:00 PM
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I’m divorced, several friends are divorced and several more friends will be divorced. In hindsight we all ignored some major red flags. There are a lot of things you can do to minimize the risk. 1. Get married a little later. You have a clearer picture of the finished product. 2. Many mental illnesses show up by 25. Do not underestimate that or down play it. Even something like ADHD makes someone hard to live with. Divorce rates with mental illness are sky high, some as high as 90%. 3. Being on …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:30 AM
1

I saw a stat that women swiped right on approximately 6.4% of men on dating sites. Either way, it’s under 10%
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:28 PM
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I’m a man and I don’t complain. Unattractive men can still make money and be funny. I’m in shape now but I used to be 315 and still pulled attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:54 PM
1

Men usually have to pay money after divorce while women receive money. Men don’t want to abandon their kids, even if they are miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:51 PM
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I live it. I just don’t find good girls sexy and I would never wife up the kind of girls I’m attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:41 PM
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They don’t need to understand. That’s not their problem. Men have several avenues to make themselves attractive to women. Men need to use those avenues or stop complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:08 PM
1

Those are extremes but I would actually say that women that look just as good without make up and beauty accessories over 28 are less common. True natural beauties are rare and are often young.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 03:43 PM
1

Or this one https://youtu.be/ILLvxlGn4Hs
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 03:24 AM
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I could post them all day. Some more extreme than others but there are a lot of woman that lose 3-4 points in their natural state. Here is 32 of them in a row. https://youtu.be/Q1zSqqxkOgg
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 03:16 AM
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She has a great personality and is hilarious. And yes it was an extreme example but this is the internet and that was the point. Women can absolutely transform from a 4/5 to an 8+ and their edited and filtered pics after a ton of make up, lashes, extensions, etc are a total misrepresentation of how they look in real life 95% of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 03:08 AM
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Different women like different body types, I don’t feel like an uptick in steroid use is going to change girls preferences. I’m 65 240 at about 18% body fat so muscular but not ripped. Some girls are attracted by a big gorilla and some girls have zero interest and it has nothing to do with her looks. My advice to guys is to take whatever you are an embrace it and do your best to enhance it. There are skinny skater boys and musicians that do extremely well with women and there are meat heads that…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:52 AM
1

You have not looked up my post history. I’m a sugar daddy. I have no problem with gold diggers but I dislike catfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:58 PM
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I know all of those costs, my girls are expensive 😂.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:33 PM
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I’m aware of that, but it’s still fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:18 PM
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I know seven or eight girls that have veneers and are under 30, obviously it’s not as crazy as dentures but it’s fake nonetheless. You take home the finished product and wake up next to the starting point and it is shocking
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:56 PM
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Our point is that many women look drastically different and better with make up. Like a 4-8. I provided several examples. Many women misrepresent yourselves in pictures and in person. Make up, lashes, spanx, extensions, etc, It’s a bait and switch. Men don’t do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:37 PM
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It’s everything. Look at the skin and hair
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:04 PM
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https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTdpFNELy/ https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTdpFNUWx/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:04 PM
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https://youtu.be/Zm5ITLhAPoM Here you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 09:41 PM
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Gotta love how people just make shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 09:38 PM
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“Many men” don’t wear make up. Like well under 2% unless you are in the goth community. Don’t try to act like it’s common with a man wearing make up is a huge outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 09:38 PM
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I would say that number is only accurate for men that are actively approaching women, which is a pretty small percentage of the male population. Most sit back and wait for a signal or two and are batting way over 500
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:33 PM
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20% but that’s mostly because my gym is crawling with hotties
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 07:34 PM
1

My guess is that she will marry her next meal ticket.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:02 PM
1

Same here. I pay roughly double the court ordered amount to keep my kids living in a good situation. Their mom is not capable. Oh well… only ten more years.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:24 PM
2

I was young and dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 02:11 PM
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It’s a waste of time. The relationship is dead, just depends how long you want the corpse to linger
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:31 AM
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There needed to be some clarity on how “the weekends” actually are. For most dads it’s picking up from school Friday afternoon and dropping off Sunday night or school Monday morning. The “he barely has them” is actually 40%+ of the time. As I said, guys that are in are in, the un involved dad‘s just disappear and those poor women deserve all the credit in the world. I casually date a single mom that gets zero help . None. Nothing from the ex and none from her family and she never complains. Then…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:15 AM
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If your kid is with his father picked up on Friday afternoon and dropped off to school Monday morning… he has the kids 3/7 days 42% of the time. You are not a single mom. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:00 AM
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It would be 10 out of 14 and that is quite rare. Most guys that are involved are very involved. Those guys that are not involved just fade away. I have my kids 50% of the time but I also coach all of their sports so I or my nanny is picking them up from school and 70%+ of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:52 AM
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Study the sugarlifestyle forum. Use seeking.com and treat it somewhat similar to regular dating sites only that you are the prize (8 sugar babies for every one guy). First date is platonic and unpaid. After that if you click then come up with an arrangement that works for both of you. 90% of the girls are just regular pretty girls tired of being jerked around. The relations start a little mechanical but within a month or two is just like any regular relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:49 AM
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We are talking about different things. A university professor may not be a millionaire but at least in the US they are making over 6 figures with hefty benefits and pension. When I talk about getting pregnant by a loser I am not talking about a PhD. C’mon.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:42 AM
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He was already a PHD student… so she didn’t wait at the finish line of the marathon but she grabbed him at mile 21. The outcome was known.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:30 AM
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It’s crazy but I don’t think people can be happy long term in this world of comparison to what we see on social media or are fed by the media. 30 or 40 years ago a really hot chick in Iowa would marry the town football hero and live happily every after. In 2022 that same girl is getting flown out by athletes and musicians and quickly moving to LA or Miami. Johnny the football star doesn’t stand a chance
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:28 AM
2

In my experience moms fight for the highest percentage they can get because it goes into the money calculations but in real life they will give you the kids as much as you will take them if you don’t try to adjust the support.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:26 AM
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You would be surprised. You can have a badass IG baddie with 3m followers or pro sports cheerleader for under $3k month. A cute mid 20’s single mom might be half that. The average going rate for a SB that you see weekly is equal to the cost of a luxury one bedroom apartment in your city.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:24 AM
2

And… you think there are excuses and *’s that make having a baby with a broke ass acceptable? There are not. Your bills don’t get paid with excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:19 AM
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Kids uninvolved… absolutely not. Aside from my experience I know so few happily married people it’s sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:20 AM
2

True, but they often knew the guy was a broke loser when they had his child.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:26 AM
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🤦‍♂️🤡. Just stop. Go play some games.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:17 AM
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Write me another novel about how much you don’t care. 🤡.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:09 AM
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1000000%. There are a whole lot of single women that call themselves single moms. My ex gets $6500/mo and I have the kids 50/50 yet she acts like she is doing it all. I also see it a lot in the dating world now where women will say they are a single mom but they get money and every weekend or every other weekend off along with a ton of help from her parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:46 PM
2

What kind is nasty people are you having sex with? In my experience people that have a lot of sex are the most hygienic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 10:55 PM
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I’ll put it this way, I pay her $6500 a month and that is about half of what she spent/wasted. I have the kids 50/50 when I used to have to take care of about 80%. I have never had more free time and expendable income and she is really struggling. I got a motorcycle, hit the gym daily, travel every other weekend, etc. She still tries to suck me into her drama but I politely reject the offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 10:49 PM
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I’m with you. I’m MGTOw with a few sugar babies. I have no issues regular dating except for my lack of a desire to be in a traditional relationships after a bad 16 year marriage. Have no hard feelings towards women, I just don’t want one living with me or having a say in what I do. It was astounding how much time and money my ex wife consumed. Even after paying a huge check every month I am way better off
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:08 PM
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Personal accountability doesn’t really catch hold with the female audience. The female coaches need to cater to their complaints to retain an audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:13 PM
2

I made mid 6 figures. We had a nanny or daycare, weekly maid service including laundry, landscaper, pool service, etc and my ex still wanted to split whatever house work was left. She was a SAHM while I worked 50 hours a week. It eventually morphed into me doing whatever excess housework, cooking/cleaning there was and her doing very little. It was terrible for her mental health and our relationship that eventually died. Now that we are divorced she has realizes how easy she had it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 02:28 PM
1

It’s primarily visual. Your lizard brain wants them or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 02:01 PM
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There are plenty of married couples that love each other, but are not attracted to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 01:57 PM
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If the attraction only arises after you learn they are rich or very funny or whatever… the. It’s not actual attraction that will endure a long term relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:17 AM
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I suspect you are young. Under 30 and/or never been married. Priorities change in life and you start to realize nature is stronger than nurture or social conditioning. Attraction is primal/biological.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 11:01 PM
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I can go a step further and say that those guys are not sexually threatening so they are a safe “crush” to have for younger women. Similar to a K-pop boy band or a twilight character. Grown women want a Jason Mamoa/Rock/Chris Hemsworth/Christian Grey type that also displays competency.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:53 PM
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Human desire is not dictated by gender roles. Younger women can be attracted to the tall skinny skater boy or musician because their needs are still being provided for by their parents/dad. As an adult, a woman brain would be terrified (and turned off) by the thought of having to rely on a tall skinny skater boy/musician to provide for and protect her family.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:09 PM
2

Who is going to push the issue? I’m not seeing it happening
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:46 AM
2

The Later in life you get, the more things swing in the favor of an average man. My dad is 66. He’s 6’2, fairly fit, financially stable but not wealthy, good personality, solid family, average looks facially, has all his hair, white teeth. If he was in his 30’s he’s just another guy. At his his age, he is an elite catch for women 50+. He has higher tier professional women aggressively fighting over him. I have ladies messaging me on social media and sending gifts to my kids. It’s nuts. As time g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 10:49 PM
2

I hope so but I think we are a long way from men getting the benefit of the doubt until all the facts are in.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 07:54 PM
1

I check off the boxes for KS’s high value man with the exception of being 43, divorced with 2 kids. I use a small part of my excess money on two early 20’s full time sugar babies a part time. For a high earner it doesn’t really cost much more than traditional dating. At a certain income level you are paying for everything anyway. We are in a constant honeymoon phase and I don’t have to deal with the typical relationship headaches. Marriage was really hard and not very rewarding. My ex wife was a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 07:46 PM
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I disagree. It shows that you need it all on tape to be believed. Look at Reynaldo. He gets hit with a fake rape charge, pays $375k to make it go away knowing that just the accusation will kill his reputation… then she comes back later asking for $75m. No charges ever filed. It’s going to come to a point where high profile men with have to record everything. I had a situation in college sports. Summer team where a local girl and her friend was hanging around the dorms all the time, sleeping with…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 07:02 PM
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I’m not the possessive type, and her girlfriends were a bit masculine for me. But other than that, she gave me anything I asked for and more. Hyper sexual and a bit of an exhibitionist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:08 PM
1

Exactly. Nobody questions or gives anyone the benefit of the doubt from the start. Once your smear someone’s name that is the end of it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 07:53 PM
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I am grateful to see one woman being held accountable. It took a celebrity with audio, video, witnesses, etc. A “normal guy” dealing with a woman like that doesn’t stand a chance. She taunted him that nobody would believe him and for the most part she’s right. A normal guy dealing with a monster like this is bound to end up in jail with his name smeared for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 03:54 AM
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I’m aware. This was a girl I was dating that had and on and off girlfriend. Nothing about her was the norm 😂. ‘‘Twas a wild ride
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 10:05 PM
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I would assume you mean for long term relationships. I don’t know why a gay person would care if they were bi and it was a casual relationship. I have dated several bi women and it’s different than most strait guys would hope. They usually try to keep the relationship separate. I was friendly with their GF’s but nothing was really going down nor did I want it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:54 PM
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I only see this kind of stuff on Reddit. If you’re a guy there are ways to make up for looks. We are lucky because we can be successful, build status, learn how to make them feel important, etc. There are infinitely more attractive women with average looking men than attractive men with plain looking women. Just do your best to look good, be as successful as possible and hit on some women. This cry baby attitude is not sexy at all and will not change a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:55 AM
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People in general want to associate with people at their level or higher so this makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 01:31 AM
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Joey King looked good with her head shaved, you can’t pull that off if you are average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:51 PM
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When I see the rankings on there I think they are quite low. I spend a shit ton of time in LA amongst the beautiful people, I know what they look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:44 PM
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By attractive men… The other details don’t really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 09:17 PM
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I don’t think anyone in a relationship wants the other person cultivating back up options. This is a silly post
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 06:04 PM
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Very accurate. Obviously being attractive can be a huge advantage in some ways but there are a whole lotta drawbacks as well. All of these people falling all over themselves to help you have expectations
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 05:22 PM
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I have seen no correlation. I know funny and interesting girls that are attractive and unattractive and I know complete duds that are attractive and unattractive. I feel like a lot of people want to paint the attractive or wealthy as bad or less evolved but it is simply not true. I will say there is some merit to the argument that the best girls are hotties that were late bloomers or former fat girls. They have lived life without pretty privilege so they understand some things that attractive wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 11:46 PM
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I’ve been the cheater and I’ve been the guy that the girl is cheating with and I’m sure at some point I’ve been cheated on… The common denominator is that people are not happy with what they’re getting in their current relationship. Sometimes it’s attention, sometimes it sucks sometimes it’s the quality of the sex, install other times they are angry at their partner for one reason or another so they do it in a passive aggressive way. We can go in circles about the reasons, but the best way to no…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:43 PM
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I don’t like any form of censorship and I don’t understand why FDS would be shit down. I’m a rather RP’d 40+ yo man but I didn’t disagree with much of what they said. There was plenty I didn’t agree with but that’s what makes discussion useful. I think the sub was a bit of an echo chamber as they did not allow any opposing points of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 06:23 AM
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I’m not gonna argue against it because I do believe for the most part you do not want a girl that can’t pair bond. But I have also seen a lot of separated and divorced Mormon moms that whore it up like professionals When they are recently separated. They want some forbidden fruit in a big way. So 10 years from now your sweet little virgin bride may not be so innocent. Only time will tell
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:49 PM
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I’m currently 6’5 240 pounds at about 17% body fat. I used to be 315 pounds. I understand how fat logic works and I fight it every day. When you try to normalize it or treat obesity like it’s no big deal people get very comfortable in their unhealthy body. My true and loving friends cared enough to provide tough love until I actually made changes and followed through. True love and concern can be a text in the morning saying “don’t be a fat fuck today”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:15 PM
2

True, and there are thin and average girls will date fat guys… but for the most part they are outliers or they were not that way when they first got together.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 08:48 PM
1

It would help overweight people but it would also help to drastically increase the dating pool for fit people. There are more desirable fish in the pond. The coolest hot girls you will meet are usually late bloomers or former fat girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 08:46 PM
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So you’re saying if everybody was out there ideal body weight they would not be more attracted to each other? I’m not sure I agree with that. Even fat people, don’t wanna date other fat people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 05:46 PM
1

I have a different perspective as a 43 year old that primarily sugar dates young hotties. Honestly most of these girls are not treated that well by the guys they want to date. They get fed up and try dating older guys. My current relationship is with a 26 year old. Her last boyfriend worked and played video games 24/7. Had a empty, dirty apartment. Never really went anywhere. He had a solid job but choose to live like that. That’s his call but girls won’t go along with that for long. Our relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 03:36 AM
1

Oh, I’m not trying to sugarcoat this. If you actually do have a lot to offer… women will do everything possible to hook you up. They can’t stand to see someone with good genetics and money not being used like an ATM/slave labor. If are fully capable of supporting a family and you are not doing that, women hate to see a good provider go to waste.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:38 PM
3

My experience has been if you are “a catch”… women that are attached/married fall all over themselves to introduce you to their single friends. Goes back to the sound advice to work on yourself and then opportunities with women fall into place.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:26 PM
28

Have you ever heard a single man brag about just doing basic adult things? I have not.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/22 06:16 PM
25

She’s the type to make spaghetti from a jar and talk about doing “wifey things”
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/22 06:13 PM
1

If you are not gonna have children there’s not really a reason to get married. I’ve never heard anyone say “ this relationship is going really well but you know what would make it better, if we got the government involved”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:47 PM
3

Female prisoners do it to men too. There are a lot of lonely people out there and these emotional predators know how to find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 04:03 AM
3

It happens all the time. This guys have all day to sweet talk and pen pal these lonely older women. They will be talking to 15 or 20 of them and telling them the exact same story. “We will be together when I get out”. The guy gets out and ask her for a few thousand dollars so that he can get an apartment for them together… then bails on her… or them. They play the same game with all of them. Guy collects $3k from ten different women then ghosts them all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 03:54 AM
1

I have five sisters that basically laughed at me for any stupid thing I did or wore or said. Understanding how particular women were was huge advantage. I never had a problem attractive women, i’m just on this forum because I got burned in a divorce and it read pilled the shit out of me. I still don’t really struggle to attract women, but I will say understand them better now after going through my divorce and finding RP forums. Mostly it was information I knew internally but didn’t know how to …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:28 AM
2

Just look at lesbian relationships, they have double the domestic violence and double the divorce of gay men. If men were the problem, that would be flipped.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 09:29 PM
6

There are sugar mammas, but they older Butch lesbians. There are straight women that financially compensate younger men but it’s not as formal as a sugar relationship. You see all of the Memes about securing a PS5, it happens. I have a friend who is a CIO at a prison and many of the inmates have older frumpy white women putting money on their books and visiting them. He often gets calls from angry husbands who claim an inmate is stalking their wife. When they dig into a deeper it turns out the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:22 PM
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Cape Town is a very modern city. They were slightly aloof to start but quickly warmed up. It was a great time
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 01:54 AM
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I have had extended (90 day) trips to Brazil, Colombia, Costa Rica, Spain/Portugal, and South Africa. I worked for a study abroad program tied to the University of CA system. As a blanket statement, they are more approachable and open. More polite and feminine. Even if they were not interested they were kind in the way they blew you off. I will retire in Portugal or Costa Rica. On our trips, we typically had more women than men. The men always had a great time meeting local women and the America…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 01:26 AM
1

If they actually are friends, then this would be a really messy way to try to do that
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/04/22 06:31 PM
7

The guy is willing to be a sperm donor, that is not a small ask. He most certainly cares for her
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/04/22 06:26 PM
19

She will end up with the best friend either way
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/04/22 05:29 PM
1

I understand but it’s kind of like someone that drives through McDonalds, orders two large meals with large fries and a Diet Coke. Contradictory. And they still have a sugar daddy or a friend with benefits on the side while making their ltr prospects jump through hoops
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 03:20 PM
3

Some are. There is no one universal reason. I know plenty of women that slept around a lot in their 20’s but as they hit 29/30 they get “serious” and start demanding/expecting to be courted. Two of my ex sugar babies are playing that game now. It’s their right but from the outside it seems silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 03:10 PM
1

There are a hundred reasons women delay or avoid sleeping with a guy but the bottom line is she doesn’t want to. The details don’t matter. If she’s not sleeping with you on a time frame like then you should move on. Or you could also be pursuing multiple women until you agree to be in a committed relationship. Then if she wants to take things really slow it doesn’t matter because your needs are met elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 02:42 PM
5

They are allowed to be more candid than men can without sounding hateful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 03:44 AM
1

Agreed, and if the sex was good the guy would stick around. So the reality is they know withholding mediocre sex will keep you around longer than having it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 02:05 AM
14

Yep. My trainer/good friend is a masculine lesbian and she’s not hateful but she fully understands women and how they try to manipulate situations. She offers great advice and observes things that men would miss.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 10:33 PM
26

Masculine lesbians are the most red pilled people on the planet in my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:28 PM
1

Nope. We all want the same things, only some have the looks to get it or willingness to do what it takes to land top tier women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 07:40 PM
3

Marriage made a lot of sense back in the day when you died at 40. You all had your roles and it was clear. These days, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 07:07 PM
0

Men dating younger attractive women = predatory groomers abusing a power imbalance. Women dating younger attractive men = you go girl. Funny how that works. I couldn’t care less about older women dating younger guys. Have at it. I don’t even say anything bad about older women. Many of them are still lovely
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 09:27 PM
2

A certain type of women really does. Another type of woman likes the idea of it but the reality is unappealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 12:23 AM
1

For sure. If you don’t get married or cohabitate, don’t have kids and limit exposure, you can keep things the same for quite awhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 05:19 AM
1

Yes. It’s really simple to take it back to the fun honeymoon period. Remove living together, jobs, kids, pets, family obligations, bills, aging, etc and get your dick sucked daily like when you were dating in college. Easy peasy. 🤦‍♂️.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 04:47 AM
1

If you can solve that problem you will be a billionaire.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 04:14 AM
1

Very true. Having kids is no joke. I have two and would not trade them for anything but I’m divorced. I don’t blame those that choose to be childless. It’s not for everyone, my ex certainly did not handle it well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 08:59 PM
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If you are familiar with sugar dating… that’s what it’s like. 8 beautiful girls for every 1 legit sugar daddy. It’s a head trip for newer girls that have never put any real effort into meeting a man. Also a head trip for a solid 6-7 that’s getting rejected by older less attractive men because they are attractive but not attractive enough to command an allowance. It’s very humbling for a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 07:13 PM
0

Well said… or don’t have a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 04:24 PM
1

You have to live it to understand. It has nothing to do with the child and how much we love the child and more to do with how wives completely transform and you go from first place in their life to number 7 or 8. I don’t envy women for the amount of anxiety and guilt they take on as mothers but most don’t handle it well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 04:22 PM
1

There are a bunch of variables that could make dating possible because I have kids... Marriage, no. How old are the kids? Is she financially solvent? Does she have help (joint custody ex or her parents)? Do they actually have time to date? Can you be in their top 3-5 priorities? Are their expectations in line with yours? Would not recommend for a single person unless you were a woman that didn’t want or couldn’t have kids and he didn’t have full custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 03:25 AM
2

There really is no other way to get a pre nup signed. At the end of the day it is a take it or leave it situation and there are many other make or break decisions in every relationship and we don’t get a judge to advocate for us years later.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 08:03 PM
5

I can see the argument, but we are all adults here and we all sign contracts that are binding. An 18-year-old can sign a four year military contract risking their life without an attorney reviewing it. An 18 year old can sign a contract to do porn that could follow them for the rest of their life without a attorney reviewing It. But suddenly a grown women can’t sign a contract with 60 days notice? I agree he and his attorney should have forced her to have it reviewed with outside counsel.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 05:55 PM
2

I would think so but apparently the judge disagreed and felt like it was signed under duress. It’s almost like some groups are not treated like adults by the court.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 04:49 PM
8

Yes. A friends father had the prenup for his second wife tossed. He presented her with the prenup about 60 days before the wedding and it was a sign it or cancel the wedding situation. She signed it without seeking her own counsel. They divorced 6 years later and she claimed she sighted the prenup under duress. The CA judge agreed with her. Prenup was tossed. Apparently you have to discuss the prenup shortly after getting engaged so one party doesn’t feel pressured at the last moment and has a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 03:45 PM
8

When you participate in reckless and impulsive behavior you are around more people that participate in reckless and impulsive behavior. A normal square dude doesn’t trigger those feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 04:44 PM
2

This is a good take. Giving your man sex twice a week should be seen as doing the bare minimum. If your lady won’t do the bare minimum for you, move on to one that will.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 03:12 PM
3

Accurate, you can know exactly how woman feels about you based on the frequency and intensity/enthusiasm of their kissing and BJ’s. If you are getting fewer and less enthusiastic… it’s a bad sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 05:58 PM
13

I have sugar babies vs regular relationships. They are better in basically every way. I’m much happier now than during any “regular” relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:34 AM
3

Bullshit. What you gather is wrong. Wealthy and successful men use those sites for relationships on their terms. Banging your receptionist or committing time and resources to a mistress is stupid and sloppy by comparison. Trophy wives are even a worse investment. Completely moronic. With arrangements you are in a perpetual honeymoon phase with a string of Beautiful young women. This start to slow down or fizzle, you move on. Are there fakes and flakes on SD sites… for sure. But with light screen…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:41 AM
1

Sugar dating flips these percentages. There are roughly 8 sugar babies for every legit sugar daddy. While the top 20% of women are chased after… standards are raised much higher for wealthy men that are giving significant allowances. There are some outliers and kinks but for the most part girls need to be conventionally attractive and in the top 1-5% in looks. 6.5-7’s get their feelings hurt all the time on sugar dating apps because they realize they are only highly desirable for free, they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:35 AM
2

The most complicated and needy sugar daddy is the one that doesn’t require sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:26 AM
2

It’s in the top 5 for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:23 AM
3

Been a sugar daddy for 15’ish years. It’s both more and less common than you think. For people that run in the IG Baddie, club/bar, modeling circles it will feel like everyone does. Not everyone does. Those that don’t run in these circles probably think it’s uncommon and it’s not. When I meet a new SB and track down her social media I will almost always see that her friends are on one or more of the sugar websites. I think one girl has success and suddenly her friends want to try. When sugar rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:20 AM
2

True, I was meaning from her ex husband. It is certainly wrong that if a woman can’t afford to provide for her children she gets a lot of public resources but if a man can’t provide for his kids he goes to jail. That is a very stark difference
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 11:03 PM
2

They use Cobra or they remain on their covered CA plan. I am in no way trying to say we have the best system or even a good system, I’m just explaining how it is. We are stupid for not having universal healthcare. But that another topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:05 AM
0

We will have to agree to disagree. In real estate I run into women with no Formal eduction and they struggle with fluency in English but they work ass off and make half a mil. When I see those women it takes away all sympathy I have for a spoiled Becky that’s afraid to work or thinks shes above the jobs available.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 01:11 AM
0

Maybe we live in different job markets but if you can fog a mirror and are remotely presentable you can command $48-60k. I literally get people jobs all the time through my network. My ex wife (SAHM) fought me for 3 years and used every excuse in the book then when the judge was going to use imputed income she realizes she was going to have to work… I got her a job working from home with benefits making $60k base. She has a HS GED. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 01:03 AM
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Not at all. Adults provide for themselves and their offspring. They don’t get to treat having children like a lifetime pension.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 12:54 AM
3

I use to play, coach and scout baseball. There was an old saying that you should never sign a prospect with an ugly girlfriend. The thought was that it was a reflection of his true inner confidence. It has proven to be true in my life. If a guy or girl is a 8/9/10 and they consistently date 5’s, they have some issues to work through.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 12:39 AM
2

I guess technically you could put an ex husband with a higher income would spoil that opportunity
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 06:18 PM
8

For most women child support and alimony is not enough. I pay mine $6500 a month But we are in the barrier so that is just getting by.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 06:16 PM
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I respectfully disagree, it all depends on their talent level and what skills they had when they left the workforce.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 06:14 PM
2

I have four administrative assistance and all are part-time 9am-1pm. They are enthusiastic and love to be at work and go above and beyond. They are also fantastic networkers. The ones that work for me are fantastic moms and wives. However it is the 8020 rule, 20% are superstars and 80% are very underwhelming
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 06:13 PM
0

Agreed, I was that husband and I was definitely resentful for being treated like an ATM. For focus was on the kids and I was just a Wallet. I’m so glad that’s over
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 06:08 PM
0

And you will never pay it, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 06:07 PM
7

Agreed, once your youngest hits kindergarten you should be making some plans to get a job. I talk to a lady the other day that was a stay at home mom and her youngest was 22. 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 04:54 PM
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Yes, I know poor people, they use Medi-Cal in the emergency room and they don’t pay anything out-of-pocket for any type of medical expense. The rich and the poor are fine, the middle class is who get screwed in health care
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 04:51 PM
11

No, because birthing children does not come with a lifetime pension.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 04:50 PM
4

Because adults generally have to work to support themselves, those that don’t are homeless. Pulling your own way it is part of existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 04:43 PM
0

BS. I’m an employer and I know a lot of employers that specifically target Mom’s reentering the workforce because they are a good value. I am one such employer that does this. Let’s also assume the woman has some sort of skill set prior to getting married and having children, if she doesn’t, then that’s on her too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 04:42 PM
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This is literally the best job market that’s existed in my lifetime and I’m 40 years old, and if you’re an uninsured Americans by choice. The health insurance exchanges subsidize based on your income or you can receive Medi-Cal or your state equivalent for free. You’re making a weak argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 04:40 PM
10

Very astute observations in my opinion, I know a whole Lotta stay at home moms and not many of them seem happy. To do it right is a shit ton of work and to do it poorly weighs on their self esteem. Many get depressed, do a crappy job, and then take it out on their husband when he gets home. It’s about a recipe.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 04:34 PM
9

Is having to go get a job really that desperate?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 04:23 PM
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They just need to get a job with health insurance… like every other adult in America
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 04:15 PM
10

It’s very telling that this woman cannot just give information without doing everything possible to soften the blow before hand. She knows that the Stay home moms will be coming for her because they’re so ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 04:13 PM
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