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Go lesbian if you think men are so shitty idk why you're making it our problem geez
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 08:01 PM
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Saying that women's LTR choices are primarily economic is not a statement the article makes ok "Most American women hope to marry but current shortages of marriageable men—men with a stable job and a good income—make this increasingly difficult" I didn't write that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 07:59 PM
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I almost went there with the "marriage bargain" line but didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 07:36 PM
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It didn't work out Thus everything you wrote is bullshit lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 07:34 PM
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Did you even read the article? Daniel T Lichter, PhD of Cornell University did the study, this isn't my "argument" ffs
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 07:32 PM
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In a world where women can work and earn money in their own, the need to find a provider is lessened. Then why is the underlying assumption men who earn less than the women are not eligible mates?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 07:28 PM
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Girls don't date guys with gross rooms for a reason. O rly? For as many women who complain about how their husbands are slobs it's unlikely they weren't slobs when they met, started dating, formed the LTR, moved in together, got engaged, and got married. Women dated and married slobs then got mad about it later.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 07:23 PM
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Depends how you define "supportive". If its about basic needs like food/shelter/housing/supervision...maybe. From my volunteer work in the hood it's not uncommon for an older grandparent (read: grandmother) to be a primary guardian of the kids, or a mother to be supported by grandparents/aunts/etc. If "supportive" goes beyond shelter, food, and base survival needs to education and enrichment of a child's life as a path out of poverty...the statistics on all of that are pretty definitive. In poor…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 07:12 PM
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The father and all adult men are known as "uncles" – there is no stigma attached to not knowing who a child's father is. Maury Povich weeps bitterly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 06:24 PM
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Your entire OP is about slut shaming: Xtina: So-what am I not supposed to say what I'm saying Are you offended with the message (SLUT SHAMING) I'm bringin' Call me whatever (SLUT SHAMING) 'cause you words don't mean a thing Guess you ain't even a man enough to handle what I sing (SLUT SHAMING) If you look back in history it's a common double standard (SLUT SHAMING) os society The guy gets all the glory the more he can score While the girl can do the same yet you call her a whore (SLUT SHAMING) L…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 05:08 PM
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Women slut shame as much as, or more than men. CMV
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 04:05 PM
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Lil Kim is the hip-hop cumdumpster of the 90's. Listen to any of her songs from back in the day and it's apparent her singular focus in life is sex, with money, cars, and fur coats as stereotypical afterthoughts. Complaining about it 20 years later is idiotic after she became rich and famous RAPPING ABOUT GETTING DICK. Nevertheless, women can bitch and moan all they want about "double standards" when generally accepted facts are: It takes an considerable amount of time and effort for a man to ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 03:58 PM
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That prompted her to get back on the sex train, and we've had sex three times in three days, including blowjobs (one of my big improvement goals). You created drama, she fed off the drama and reengaged...even if "creating drama" was contrary to your intent. You've observed this before in prior dealings with her: you have your own outbursts and she responds with desire. She needs the volatility...almost as if a steady, calm, copacetic (read: Boring) environment turns her off. Maybe a big part of …
/r/MarriedRedPill02/07/19 07:04 PM
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2769593/HALF-women-fall-partner-standby-fancied-case-current-relationship-turns-sour.html This went around a while back and periodically circulates. There's an infographic somewhere also that I'm too lazy to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 05:43 PM
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at still doesn't really show you like your kids or any kids. It just shows you wanted a mini-me Stop trolling, no answer from any guy saying he likes kids is going to satisfy you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 07:26 PM
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Your premise is faulty considering the loads of discussion on why RP says "Don't date single moms", and it all has to do with the mother. Regardless, the step child is never "yours", and your influence as a father figure is limited. How would you like to be told by some child "you're not my real daddy!" while you're financially and emotionally supporting him and mommy and daddy may or may not still be in the picture? I got divorced and would NOT date a single mother for reasons that are obvious …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 07:21 PM
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I may want certain material things but I don't want to marry a person I cannot love and does not love me. I don't see why it needs to be either or. well... How does a woman attract an UC man for marriage? Not much about love there... I also fail to understand why learning what I need to fit in makes me inauthentic. You're not trying to fit in because you won the lottery, had a rich uncle that left you millions, or cashed out of a startup and found your way into the UC by happenstance or your own…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 08:21 PM
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If that makes me a desperate tryhard, what would you suggest as the most appropriate goals for young women who want familes? Be authentic. The entire premise of your post is the exact opposite of authenticity; you're looking to mold yourself entirely into something you're not for your own direct gain. Consider you'd maybe--maybe-- be happier in the long term with someone who you jive with at a deeper level rather than fabricating your entire new personality around some lofty end goal of locking …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 07:08 PM
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Context driven- You can be the top at work but not so elsewhere, that type of thing. Otherwise yes to most- Muscular, fit, stylish, carry yourself with confidence, have a good job & make good money, be charasmatic and most importantly respected by everyone. Lead with fitness and appearance, then don't be a retard when you speak, essentially. You'll know you're there when people give you their undivided attention when you speak. Does being at the top of the male social matrix correlate to success…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 06:49 PM
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Same shit, different day. And scores of men here had the same thing happen to them, whether it was "i want an open marriage" or "ILYBINILWY"...it's all the same. You have two decisions to make: 1. Are you going to put in the work to become the best version of yourself and 2. WHAT DO YOU WANT???. 1 is easy: sidebar and lift. #2 is where you're going to struggle considering your OP; you've framed your entire situation passively as your wife's decision to make. Nothing there tells us what you actua…
/r/askMRP30/05/19 01:55 PM
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I'm having a boy soon. I would love and adore a girl and with my luck the next one will be. I'm a little relieved since I'm thinking it will be easier to try to keep him alive and not do retarded boy things as he grows up vs. have to manage the multiple layers of what it looks like girls go through these days: the "mean girls" clique stuff, social media, attention/validation whoring, sexualizing themselves earlier and earlier, self esteem issues related to all of the above...I get that both boys…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 06:28 PM
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It’s always about being more “alpha” Patently untrue. It's always apparent when a guy goes "rambo". Same for preaching "game your wife" and passing comfort tests. You're projecting your own bias. Most noobs do just fine with the beta stuff; that's rarely the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 05:28 PM
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No relationship is perfect, yet men generally don't go seeking MRP or the like for little things. Had he been dead bedroomed...maybe. Had he gone for whatever reason, he'd be told to self-introspect, figure out how he caused whatever problem he's trying to solve, and get to work. Are some guys told they don't need it? Sometimes. If they're fit, have their shit together, having the sex and treatment from their wife they want, sure. Happy men don't go looking for the red pill, therefore it's a moo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 01:05 PM
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You care too much about her feelings. Also would say covert contracts but you do make them known allegedly, but in a way that's whiny and needy. Either way, a(nother, hopefully) spin through NMMNG would help you. And yes, you're the problem in that you're negotiating with her whenever her feelz go negative. You admit yourself- you allow her to drag you into fights and whatnot. She's a child throwing a tantrum and you're trying to placate her. Stop. And when I bring it up in a non confrontational…
/r/askMRP20/05/19 06:45 PM
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The main problem that drives men to MRP is lack of sex; "communication" in itself isn't sexy nor does it build attraction. In the unwinding of why a marriage has a lack of sex, it comes down to the guy demonstrating a host of unattractive behaviors which need to be unwound and replaced with attractive ones. Counselling won't tell a guy to get his bodyfat under 15%, put on muscle, find a mission, etc and especially won't present a framework that actually makes sense to a guy. A fat slob of a guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 01:32 PM
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I consider my husband very attractive, he doesn’t supplicate, has a dgaf attitude, is very self assured etc. Of course MRP wouldn't work for you, your husband is exactly what those guys strive to be. Guys like him don't need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 01:22 PM
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I would have never stood a chance in hell competing with models Wtf social circle do you play in where it's either "allegedly high earning career woman" or models?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 07:29 PM
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The funny part about all this is a number of skilled trades pay very well, thus the whole "economically unsuccessful" doesn't apply evenly; or at all. Given how tight the market is for some trades they arguably have more job stability long term compared to some paper pusher. It's all about the narrative around post-secondary education being the be-all-and-end-all to economic success and status, especially with younger folks. The high school grad electrician with no debt and owns his house is bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 07:22 PM
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Some are actually trying. If BOTH parties try, sure, and if they both want to achieve the same thing. Then again, it's usually one partying trying and the other not, or both are trying but can't figure out how to align their efforts to a common end to which it's a waste of effort. If things aren't AWFUL than starting fresh could be far worse. True if you're codependent and would rather be miserable with someone than less miserable alone due to some fucked up comfort mechanism. Also continuing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 06:58 PM
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Then find a man who does more chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 06:41 PM
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Why do you think a few years of happy justify staying unhappy indefinitely? fixing things is potentially possible It's the hope of fixing things, not the work of actually fixing problems. Also ignoring both individuals in the relationship change over time, can have competing interests, and widely differing willingness to change the status quo to something else. A relationship based on hope will ultimately fail. You also assume by default an unhappy party needs to reenter a relationship to have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 06:32 PM
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I get your point; especially on the age piece. I had a debate on here a while back with some woman arguing a wife's eye for decor and throw pillows was "for the husband's benefit" somehow, even as 1. the man can care less with zero expectations and 2. the woman--entirely out of her own volition--was the main driver of changing the decor. She argued repeatedly the man was the reason for, and the beneficiary of the throw pillows, which I found to be absurd. This is the type of thing I thought you …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 05:26 PM
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I didn't respond to your OP directly. This is PPD where we respond to all sorts of things people post for no good reason; up to and including pointing out the absurdity of what people say. Why do you think women should do all the chores?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 05:12 PM
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The answers are pointless to you because you went to a dog owner forum asking about how to raise an alpaca. Your venue is entirely whack. This entire post: You: Why must women do ALL the chores? Everyone: They don't, nobody thinks that. You: YES THEY DO TELL ME WHY Sounds silly, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 04:55 PM
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That point is largely invalid amongst this audience. You’re projecting your own issue in a forum where your problem does not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 03:36 PM
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I'm just asking for a reason why it is like that. It's not like that. For most people. At all. Even the dudes here are telling you it's not that way at all. Your very specific relationship issue doesn't apply to anyone on this sub and considering it's 2019 you're free to empower yourself to 1. not do a disproportionate amount of chores 2. demand he do more and/or 3. find a better mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 02:54 PM
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OP: Pls stop projecting your own specific relationship problem on the rest of us pls thx.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 02:50 PM
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they would very soon become divorced moms. As women seem to think men as a whole don't do enough of a woman's self imposed domestic workload and so-called "emotional labor" women solely create for themselves, yes women can certainly divorce their not doing enough husbands as they wish. Then when the divorced women's self imposed workloads drop as outlined, they'll clearly miss the irony none of it was necessary to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 02:37 PM
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Shit like this doesn't help: https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/good-samaritan-spends-two-weeks-in-a-maximum-security-prison-after-woman-whose-car-he-helped-fix-falsely-accused-him-of-indecent-assault/ar-AAAYhxW
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 06:07 PM
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He never said he can fix a kid, he specifically said he "definitely can't fix that".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 04:47 PM
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You moved the goalposts to "some men" from your broad brush OP. Sure, some men have self control. Multiples more men have little to none and will thirst their way into acting like fools with no other options. Your OP is way out of line with the realities of male thirst and female fixing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 04:46 PM
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Why do I feel like you gender swapped everything here? Women want fixer-uppers in that they want to tame some wild stallion of a man into some domestic beta. I quoted a comment by spacewhiskey on a prior 50 shades thread: An average girl tames an Alpha playboy, she brings him to heel despite his desire to dominate her and he one by one caves to her every demand, giving up his player lifestyle, his sex dungeon requirement for their intimacy, his fear of commitment, his mommy issues, his stance on…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 03:22 PM
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Guaranteed those guys are thirsty AF and would jump through a ton of hoops for some 6/10 to give them attention, considering they're currently invisible to women altogether. Very little of their situation is voluntarily checking out of the SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 02:32 PM
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It's sexual capitalism. You don't have the goods. You don't get the sex You're right; the average modern 20something guy isn't at all impressive. Overweight, unkempt, boring, no backbone, etc. In a different era a good enough guy could probably do ok...nowadays, nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 02:19 PM
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A single mother isn't a "bad mother". She can be a perfectly fine mother, but she can't be a father. To your point, the presence of fathers is not complete in and of itself; the presence of strong, masculine, stable fathers is what's needed yet not at all celebrated nor encouraged by society. She can also be a perfectly fine mother, but she's probably not a good romantic mate. This is what TRP rails on time and time again; there's no good reason for a single, childless guy to pick a single mothe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 06:54 PM
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Backbones don't grow themselves...sometimes it takes a few slaps upside the head and a meandering google search to figure it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 06:46 PM
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Men don’t want to be seen as only being the safe option. Men want to be the person that gets the woman to her sexual peak. Men don't mind being the former if--and only if--they can be the latter. The two don't have to exist independently of each other, but usually do nowadays and is often a recipe for misery long term. Women are free to have casual sex and "explore" to their heart's content, while plenty of stable, "beta", good-enough men are waiting for those women to "settle down". Being the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 06:03 PM
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How is it not a waste? And who are you to say it’s not a waste of time money and resources?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 08:57 PM
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Higher ed = job training despite efforts to spin it as some grand enlightening intellectual pursuit. Spending years and tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars to NOT participate in the workforce is a waste. Anything beyond a bachelors is absolutely a waste; anyone with their sights on being a SAHM getting a masters or beyond is absolutely retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 08:14 PM
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Why is a government sanction necessary form a family?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 08:02 PM
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I see a little bit of my former situation here; you're finally feeling it click and acting like it, thus bringing attention and opportunity. Know the difference between basking in external validation vs. having true outcome independence; at the surface they feel the same but underneath they're obviously not. Your ex is smelling the blood in the water knowing you're unhappy (whether overt or not, that's likely the vibe you're giving off) and her desire for fucking you is the hook to reel you in; …
/r/MarriedRedPill03/05/19 07:59 PM
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Why is a government sanction necessary?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 04:54 PM
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How is it false?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 04:21 PM
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All fluffy, esoteric "meaning" that can be had with two cheap rings and some ceremonial words that don't actually need a marriage license endorsed by the state. There's no other use for a governmental sanctioned document other than economic security.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 03:12 PM
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Could always record the interaction and have audio and video...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 02:57 PM
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A lot of women make their own money, true. Then why do women--on average--demand marriage from a guy if they admittedly don't need the security?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 01:51 PM
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Those noobs show up and get an earful...eyeful, whatever. One can’t fix the problem if one doesn’t know what the actual problem is. MRP says as gospel the guy is the problem 100% of the time. This is why I call bullshit on your characterization of blaming the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 12:50 PM
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But you’ve not read the ever present “you are the problem, faggot” feedback, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 09:20 PM
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A dead bedroom is a rock-bottom breaking point, that's why. Everything else is just an incremental step in the slow, gradual decline. This is wear the husband tries to figure out what's wrong and does anything the wife requests He'll wash dishes, he'll take out the trash , he'll make try to make more money , he'll help with the kids more.....anything to get his dick wet. But why didn't he think to do any of these things before the sex stopped? You presume choreplay works. Choreplay doesn't drop …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 07:35 PM
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It is absolutely about agency; women have each next decision to make with regards to any life goal. You want to blame men and society as if a woman cannot possibly make a decision counter to the expectations of men or society. A woman has absolute ability to act against a particular narrative; nobody puts a gun to her head to choose one way or another. If marriage is an impediment to a c-suite career, don’t get married. If it’s kids, don’t have kids. Or, have a SAHD or nanny or otherwise. Please…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 08:52 PM
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Women should select for men who are willing to take more traditional female gender roles in domestic realms. They aren’t and are subsequently getting angry as a result and blaming everyone but themselves for their woes. Women need to make different decisions if they want to achieve their goals CMV
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 08:42 PM
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You made my point, women need to buck the “expectations” if they want the same success men have traditionally obtained. Women who demonstrate deliberate agency and responsibility for their decisions can have successful, high achieving careers. For some reason you don’t believe women have agency nor can take responsibility for their decisions thus your argument blames men and society; independent 3rd parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 08:40 PM
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The years and decades are where men benefit from having a partner that shoulders all the domestic responsibilities. So they can work the 60 hour weeks. Women--instead of complaining about not having the same--need to make different decisions on family and domestic life if they are to work the same 60+hour/week high status job and have the same career advancement as men. Or, start picking husbands who will shoulder more domestic responsibilities. But it’s naive to think social expectations do not…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 07:02 PM
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Women can't make decisions for themselves without the Matrix Hive Mind restricting their agency and autonomy? Edit: you still didn't outline how a man forces a women out of a career.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 06:12 PM
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Women are over represented in tertiary education but this does not extend to senior work positions. You're missing years...decades of time inbetween getting a degree and getting into senior executive/leadership roles. This is due to social expectations. This is due to women making choices for themselves and blaming it on "social expectations" as if they don't control their own lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 06:11 PM
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Throughout education, women are held to the same standards of men. Equality. Do you want standards lowered for women because they're women? They outnumber men in tertiary education yet these people with education are underrepresented in positions of power. How many women run for public office? Sacrifice family for climbing the corporate ladder? Start businesses? Take outsized risks with high reward? Hint: it's not men making women not do all of those things. Are women autonomous and have agency?…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 06:08 PM
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and women who were promised “it all” failing as a result. Women went around promising other women they can "it all" and women alone bought that line of bullshit for themselves. Stop blaming men for women's own collective and individual inability to think beyond their own delusions of grandeur.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 05:48 PM
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How, exactly, does the man force the women to abandon her career?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 05:40 PM
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Damn girl ur red pilled af.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 03:17 PM
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according to you guys. lol there's plenty of places for wayward folks to go and get shit advice and circlejerk their woes before they ever find our obscure corner of the internet debating such things. You overestimate PPD's power in the universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 08:58 PM
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Who, exactly, at the bottom of it all is basing life decisions on this subreddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 07:09 PM
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When I was dating, I came across a surprising amount of married men Have you considered you've been looking for that exact demographic, perhaps unknowingly?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 06:36 PM
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How the fuck does arguing on an obscure subreddit hurt "people who might not have a say" or "people who are at the bottom of it all"? This is an semi-anonymous exchange of words on the internet most humans don't even know exists, not public policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 06:28 PM
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Now, for example, I do not know if I should try to start sex or if I invite her to go out with our daughter, or to grab a coffee, etc. You're overthinking this. What do you WANT to do? Figure that out and proceed accordingly. And not everything you want to do needs to include your wife, but could if that's what you want.
/r/askMRP25/04/19 01:44 PM
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I've never pretended my bias didn't exist; I come to a different conclusion based on my bias that you come to based on yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 12:33 PM
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Why are they going through with the wedding then? The same exact shit we talk about daily here: the men are soft, weak, no backbone, defer to the woman, sacrifice their happiness for hers, won't take a stand, no boundaries, bla bla bla. Rinse, wash, repeat. I don't feel for peple who get exactly what they signed up for and pretend to be cluseless as to why. Hard to know what you signed up for if you never knew what it was you're signing up for. I can make a gendered argument here from the male p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 12:32 PM
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I'd be surprised to find a statute that didn't give judicial autonomy to attach premarital assets as a carveout. My state is one exactly like that, hence a prenup protecting premarital assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 08:29 PM
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Eh. Usually the sex is fine for a few years then declines, and the "she was a self professed slut before we met" stories come along with it. She's low libido for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 08:28 PM
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I know, I live in a fancy town and make a lot of money. When I talk about people complaining about their situations these are the people I'm talking about lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 08:23 PM
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Affluent UMC people aren't living in some fairly tale either; they just hide it better.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 08:15 PM
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It's not about things acquired in the past. It certainly is; to declare premarital assets and explicitly exclude them from a potential divorce in addition to outlining a division of assets in the future. Does a prenup not protect premarital assets?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 08:14 PM
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Everyone I know is a god damn mess. Yea me too, yet you can find in this very thread all the "omg not me and anyone i know we are all happy and have no problem" posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 08:09 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 08:07 PM
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IDK dude, I think people aren't as happy as you and others think they are. You see more happy people than I do, that's cool. I'm more than happy to be wrong that me and other RP types are just cranky miserable outliers, but i doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 08:05 PM
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I'm happy you're seeing something different than I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 07:52 PM
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I run in very different social/work circles IRL with little overlap. Trends exist. Extrapolating something bigger out of that isn't a stretch.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 07:50 PM
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You're obtusely missing my point. It's not about cringy ass people sharing bedroom stories, it's about people that are unhappy in their marriages that people talk about--which they certainly do--and a reasonable connection that they're probably not having awesome sex. This is 2019, people (mostly women) openly complain about their lives on social media, same as they overshare the good shit. It's not hard to see people who aren't happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 07:47 PM
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It's not a stretch to take observations from an extended group of people one is familiar with IRL and extrapolate it out that maybe a phenomenon is more common than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 06:12 PM
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Because of shit I hear and see IRL, which all aligns with the underlying issues men have on MRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 05:53 PM
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Why on earth do you think they are close to other men’s issues?? Because I believe men stay in shitty marriages and choose to do nothing about it, while the underlying problems are pretty much the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 05:50 PM
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Its not hard to tell a guy is unhappy in his situation while never mentioning the word "sex".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 05:46 PM
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It's not hard to see the same shit IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 05:41 PM
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Tick tock on the ovary clock.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 05:39 PM
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They're not representative of all men, true, they're probably pretty damn close to the experiences of men who also have these marriage problems and never heard of any red pill sub. Most every MRP noob that shows up has an oddly similar story to everyone else who showed up before them for how their marriage went down the shitter BEFORE they ever set foot in the place. That's not coincidence. I would also say it attracts men who are unhappy for similar root reasons. Maybe. Consider there are 1. a …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 05:38 PM
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It requires staying attractive so other women want you and maintaining frame. You get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 05:25 PM
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No, it's very obvious. They understand full well especially when people around them are going through the same thing with their own small kids. None of these women are living in a bubble where nobody around them ever had children.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 05:24 PM
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There's confirmation bias because people who end up there have oddly similar problems. Nobody will deny it can get circlejerky, but happy men with no problems don't end up at DB or MRP for shits and giggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 05:18 PM
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And people on PPD like to pretend they and everyone they know are smart, successful, well adjusted, and have zero problems ever. Edit: lol at other comments here "nobody I know has problems like that". Like clockwork.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 05:15 PM
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You miss the simple and obvious fact that those of us who ended up on DB and MRP were there trying to solve our own very real problems, not out of some intellectual curiosity on mating habits like we do here on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 04:11 PM
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You're missing the cohort in their 30s who are getting dead bedroomed even before the wedding and oftentimes soon after. This isn't related to age, shit goes downhill quickly and anyone who believes youth has some beneficial factor for married sex life is dead wrong. I had and still have a very hard time finding an actual married couple in their early-mid 30s who was actually happy, nevermind actively fucking, and kids were not the common theme. It's a running joke amongst men how marriage turns…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 03:39 PM
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Men like to win, some men like to win big. Pussy is a byproduct of winning, not the underlying motivation to bang some hot golddiggers because he has money. Bezos didn't become stupid rich because of the prospect of banging 2 women: either his plain-Jane STBX or his washed up latina girlfriend. Women complain about emotional labor when men are unattractive. Be unattractive and you'll hear many a wife shit on her husband for any and all reasons; bullshit made up new agey terms like "emotional lab…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 06:59 PM
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We barely made it 15 months before filing for divorce. Classic case of ignoring rationalizing away the red flags and me not knowing myself well enough to take a hard stand on a number of things that were off just enough to matter. She "checked out" of the relationship with a job change a few months after the wedding and then went nuclear on birth control and was guilted into telling me after the fact. To me it came down to babies, and despite representing otherwise for a long time she was simply…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 05:23 PM
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"You're such a catch! Some girl will be so lucky to have you!"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 05:04 PM
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Shit test.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 05:00 PM
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Funny, all of these stories have similar themes, and the feedback from the community is the same. Overlay the template and tweak the circumstances and characters a bit...same outcome. Every. Single. Time. Your wife's offer for a 3way is my ex wife's offer of an open marriage. Oh, and look at my timeline for my involvement with MRP in that post...look familiar? You'll see the writing on the wall soon enough.
/r/askMRP19/04/19 03:34 PM
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How many women prefer or god forbid demand to run the household? Even worse, when the man steps up to do his "share"--as usually, arbitrarily, and conveniently defined by the woman--how often does he "not do it right" or to her satisfaction otherwise thus leading her to write him off and do it herself? Men also get bludgeoned when they're the clear breadwinners AND they don't do "enough" housework. Or "emotional labor". Or whateverthefuckelse women like to come up with to show he's not pulling h…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 06:50 PM
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You sound like one of those up-by-muh-bootstraps! republicans of yore. There's a lot of blaming going on here by people who at the end of the day just lacked social competence and avoided doing the work to learn it. I'd love to hear you say the same to women when the whole Muh Patriarchy Muh Internalized Misogyny Muh Oppression narrative comes up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 05:53 PM
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Be the exact opposite of what mainstream narratives and opinion pieces say men should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 04:40 PM
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Me too. It can be anything other than golf.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 03:06 PM
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I'm 35 and will have my first. Time is precious to me and I don't want to be in my late 40s-50s trying to chase around small children. This is one of the issues that drove the termination of my first marriage. At my rate I'll be eligible for retirement while my first is in the middle of college. Looking back at some of the folks I went to high school with that had kids early, even with OOW and divorces and such there's wisdom to having kids earlier. Not that I condone fuckery and poor decisions,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 02:43 PM
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I stand corrected.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 06:57 PM
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What idiot thinks acne is a "sign of fertility"? It's a sign of out of whack hormones, not hormonal stability and health. Assuming they're talking about acne on pregnant women since hormones go into chaos it's not fertility since fertility is the ability to conceive, not necessarily ability to carry the child to term in itself. The ultimate sign of fertility is having already successfully born a child. More idiocy disproven by the ability of IVF or other infertility treatment to hack the biology…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 06:38 PM
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It's over before it even starts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 06:17 PM
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If both RP and BP methods aren't helping these guys How many of these idiots actually went and gave a solid effort at any method at all, over time, with even cursory focus and determination? Plenty of people have tried to give advice and the constant refrain is some iteration of "doesn't apply to me i'm ugly reeeeee". That, and the defeatist tropes like "but if I approach a girl i'll be accused of rape!" where the they can't possibly fathom proactivity on their own part. Even IRL dealing with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 05:25 PM
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Better red guides will just point this towards improving your looks (aka lift), social skills (aka game) and status. Go lift and get fit. Learn and practice game. Elevate your status/career/etc and don't be a societal loser. What about that isn't prescriptive and moderately achievable?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 04:48 PM
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Uggos with game can score.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 04:35 PM
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Did the Alcatraz swim which turned out to be more hype than is advertised; got plenty of street cred from normies for it. Came in 10 minutes of my expected time.
/r/MarriedRedPill10/04/19 03:08 PM
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Lol you're me. In Office Space you work just hard enough to not get fired, here you're trying to make your marriage just good enough to not get divorced. You're trying to do what I tried to do: MRP your way into making your volatile, substandard marriage into something that you can rationalize as good enough and then bring children into the world because it's not bad. Trying to do all the self improvement work and engineer my ex wife into something she's not and make the marriage tolerable was a…
/r/askMRP08/04/19 08:42 PM
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This is simple: She wants to fuck other men. No other explanation is necessary.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/04/19 03:32 AM
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My goal is to be married around 25 Why?
/r/askMRP29/03/19 01:59 PM
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So it seems the average redditor doesn't mind boys ogling some breasts. They'll find online porn if left to their own devices; Hooters is PG compared to what they'll eventually see. Besides, everybody loves titties. Those who say they don't are liars, men and women alike. Is it wrong to objectify women? Women objectify themselves, anyone with an instagram account following both instathots and normie girls will see the blatent kissy faces, cleavage, ass shots, and sultry poses. Methinks it's the …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 03:17 PM
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Everything here is nothing more than Dread 101, the 1000 foot rope, leadership, and giving comfort. If your woman is having a meltdown because you're "so far ahead" then you're clearly rambo'ing, a dancing monkey, or you're really, truly as awesome as you say you are (with little context from your post history). You need to figure out that one for yourself and proceed accordingly. My go plan is the same as the stay plan but I would prefer to keep my family in tact as I have 3 small children. You…
/r/askMRP26/03/19 02:50 PM
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False.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 05:03 PM
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What serious work on your own psyche have you done in the past two years since your askmrp post? Your question is essentially no different from what it was then, and the answers won't be much different either: You're insecure and seek validation in thots, and you have no idea what you want out of life. Case in point from 2 years ago: So here's the problem... I don't want to live a double life, I want my wife to improve herself so we can both be happy again. and here you are: but I still feel thi…
/r/MarriedRedPill25/03/19 04:48 PM
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Ya we have zero ability at all
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 12:06 AM
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​She is in absolute control of my desire, which gives me the power. Wrong, and I'm not sure how you contorted yourself to come to that conclusion. She is in absolute control of your desire in which she has all the power, you have none. Every choice in the relationship is hers, and all you're doing is worshiping her on a pedestal. In more terper terms: you have zero frame for yourself and operate entirely in her frame. You are not your own mental point of origin. tl;dr: you are at complete odds w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 08:19 PM
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Enough men finally come to realize how they view dating/relationships/sex simply doesn't work; failure after failure leads a guy to look for a better template for 1. how to explain why they fail and 2. provide some path to lead to success. Prevailing wisdom in the MSM or self-help doesn't cut it, or helps for a while then fails again. All this is almost a completely male experience. Women experience failure in other ways, but they're by no means even close to similar and there's plenty of resour…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 06:55 PM
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Plus men ofppd are generally clueless about building attraction in women. True, we have no idea how to attract women, get laid, or anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 06:00 PM
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40-50 hours/week of normal work hours isn't "absent". You know what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 03:28 PM
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I'm in.
/r/MarriedRedPill22/03/19 03:27 PM
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I feel the same way you do, like a lack of autonomy. For me it's because I've done anything/everything for myself whenever I want having someone else do things for me is such a foreign feeling. My current woman is like that...i'm getting used to it but it feels strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 03:26 PM
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He'll be BP if the father is absent and/or spineless and weak himself. Not to mention having women & social narratives with him all through primary school. The consistent presence of a solid masculine role model will negate mommy's hovering.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 03:18 PM
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You invite your own problems living in a very HCOL area pining over the top 5% of income earning men to facilitate your comfortable lifestyle instead of you moving somewhere more reasonable to live in the same or better comfort for less, so yes i'm telling you to move. 50k in WVA or the Carolinas or elsewhere goes farther than 80k in socal. Facts. Simple math on costs of living. Do the math. I recruit and travel all over the country, I know exactly what I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 02:58 PM
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A lot of women do settle for "good enough". Good enough isn't exactly arousing especially over the long term. I agree with you on the second part.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 02:17 PM
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not telling a lot or even nothing to friends Women travel in packs and opportunities arise when "out". Kind of hard to be out with her friends and hit it off with a guy and then stonewall them afterwards. Also defeats the purpose of having friends if you can't share your life and be honest. "Oh we saw you left the wedding reception early with that hot groomsman teeheehee what happened? "nothing" ok. I do not think this is normal A little bit of alcohol and you learn a lot when she's with her fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 02:13 PM
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COL adjustments for like-kind jobs have the lower COL areas win every. single. time. Or even better, get a high paying job in a HCOL area and transfer to a LCOL area and keep that salary. You don't know what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 01:31 PM
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You're not an old hag with toddlers, obv. You think you get a better life popping out high risk pregnancy kids at 35?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 01:30 PM
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I've seen similar in my social circle, along with some dudes who can't get laid. Two sides of the same coin. Women feel entitled to chad simply because they're women, and feel no need to bring value otherwise. Modern millennial men are--on average--pathetic: weak, unmasculine, feminized, and sloppy. Some may be good on paper (job, etc) but personality is garbage. The average leftovers on both sides don't want eachother, and the better women in that pool have it worse since the better men have al…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 01:28 PM
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You're exactly right, yet no woman will go out and tell a random guy to his face "be the best version of yourself".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 01:13 PM
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There needs to be incentive to go to neighborhoods and communal raising of children, along with connection and community that can't be socially engineered by policy. Otherwise you just have lots of single-mother children with shitty, substandard parenting and the host of shitty outcomes that are very well documented. Look at any community with a high percentage of out-of-wedlock births and single motherhood...Would you want to raise a kid in that environment?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 01:06 PM
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Wives can't lose attraction to their husbands?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 01:01 PM
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Nobody owes you anything. Sorry you may have to slum it with the rabble for a while :(:(:(:( gosh so bad being around people who aren't affluent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 12:54 PM
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Less expensive than SoCal. Nashville. Atlanta. Cleveland. Cincinnati. Phoenix. Tampa. Charlotte. Charleston. Richmond. Louisville. etc etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 12:50 PM
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Biology is a bitch. And age =\= femininity, but I know what you're getting at. The bigger unfairness in it all is our participation in a society the lizard people overlords have created that values being depressed little taxpayers and debt slaves our entire lives, and women in particular are told to earn and build their careers and lean in and all that happy bullshit during their peak fertility years, thus wasting that beautiful, precious, fertile youth to be a tiny cog in a giant economic machi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 06:14 PM
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This is a stupid troll question. The article explains why the results are what they are, why are you asking us?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 05:46 PM
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lol the comment was clinical, yes, but I can assure you IRL is much more fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 07:00 PM
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This isn't suggesting that all men are at fault, not at all, but simply that the overwhelming majority of problems are caused by men. Idk what mental gymnastics you needed to write that but you deserve gold at the next olympics.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 06:09 PM
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It was always my perception the wife insisted and preferred to be a SAHM, not necessarily the guy forced her to be. Someone tell me I'm wrong idk
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 06:03 PM
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How can you argue both "monogomy is my thing" and "wives don't owe husbands sex"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 06:00 PM
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Being an SAHM used to be a good thing when marriage was still forever. Funny how that works: women are the ones to push for marriage and yet are the ones who throw it out the most compared to men. Women made the throwaway marriage, not men. Men don’t want to support women anymore. Look at how they talk about alimony! You're also conflating men's intent to not want to pay alimony or child support with whatever the courts rule, which is likely direct financial support to the woman despite what the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 02:58 PM
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yes it is
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 02:50 PM
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Respond to my other comment pls ur ignoring that one
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 10:57 PM
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Who are you arguing with lol I'm not MGTOW nor do I devalue LTRs. No need to make this personal, and woefully inaccurately personal at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 10:04 PM
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Marriage is for men,not women Which gender pulls the "PROPOSE OR GTFO" stunt?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 08:43 PM
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Literally every single city in the US other than in the Bay Area or Metro NYC.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 08:42 PM
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What's so offensive about having a lower earning man, especially if the total household income is so high? 160+50=210K, hardly destitute by any measure and you're likely living comfortably UMC. I don't understand why income parity--especially in your example at 200K--is such a dealkiller. Idk maybe women simply detest being providers themselves, like some sort of innate biological firmware that demands men be equal or better than they are. What if he runs a non-profit or is a fireman or EMT or t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 08:39 PM
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Yes it is oppressive. We have made so many advances as a society abolishing oppressive gender roles that keeping a gender role is oppressive in and of itself. We can't have true equality unless every gender can find their own roles in society. Therefore, women holding men to a provider gender role is oppressive to both men and women and is reinforcing patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 06:41 PM
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You sound like someone Joe Rogan would have on his podcast.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 05:06 PM
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You have no purpose, mission, or frame which is why you're stewing unproductively in your own anger. Your entire sense of self is based on what women think of you. Figure out what you want out of life, start doing shit you enjoy, be your own judge, and chill the fuck out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 05:03 PM
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I want kids and I refuse to have anything other than a cohabiting nuclear family to raise them in. That requires me to be monogamous to my pending baby mamma, as most would expect. As for her, specifically, she has a set of values and life experience that aligns very well with mine and she's low maintenance and easy to be with. Took me a failed marriage and years of wasted time to figure that out but things are much better now than they would have ever been with my ex wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 04:50 PM
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Idk someone below is hooting about how "less than me" = "dead weight" and that's right in line with OPs point and the articles he's quoting. Plenty of women feel that way or else these pieces wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 04:36 PM
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Under those conditions, there's no way I'm going to willingly marry someone whose ambition and earning potential doesn't match mine. That's not about wanting a man to be a provider - it's about wanting a man who's not a dead weight and is from the same socioeconomic background as I am. You just made OP's point. A man who makes less than you is dead weight. Why is "less than you" = "dead weight"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 04:06 PM
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It's not about simply "wanting quality A", it's about that one factor of economic success being as high on the list as it is per OP's point despite the changed world of women being as or more economically successful. Many are ok with her not making a ton or as much as he does but still want a working partner who contributes. True for men-->women yes, but the reverse is not true, again, per OP's point. Women in general are not OK with a man making less than they do. Furthermore, I and probably OP…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 03:54 PM
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I agree with you on the first part of that. As for the second, the poor and lower classes outbreed the upper classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 02:48 PM
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If women are themselves financially stable, etc then why is financial stability so high on their list of mate preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 02:45 PM
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Why do you think US men are less concerned than in 2017 about sexual harassment? The news cycle. When #metoo et al is overshadowed by Trump's latest tweets or a native american dude banging a drum in some kid's face it's no longer in the forefront of anyone's mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 02:41 PM
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You're salty today, unnecessarily so. You're also strawmanning women's major preference for selecting an economically successful "provider" as dependence, which is stupid given women's largely equal-to-greater modern day economic success. Is "providing" not a traditional male gender role women are still holding men to in dating/relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 02:35 PM
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Where does feminism say it’s ok to financially depend on men? You strawmanned his argument. Women want to be absolved of outdated, oppressive gender roles in totality yet still hold men to the outdated, oppressive gender role of provider. Selecting a man to be a provider doesn't have to mean she's 100% financially dependent. Why do you care? You claim to be happily married with kids but seem to live in a constant state of anger about men having to approach and women who can’t find husbdands, nei…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 01:02 PM
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What threshold of earnings is adequate to "support her children"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 12:57 PM
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Yes, which is why I opened with "greasy is right".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 09:05 PM
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Greasy is right, however... Women can be as violent as men when they know violence will not be used back against them. Cue any video of a woman physically attacking a man and the Shock! and Horror! when she gets it returned to her asymmetrically. I'm pretty sure this is the argument you get into with people. In our current age men are conditioned from birth to self-regulate their violent tendencies. For some inexplicable reason women are somehow emboldened to become violent (with men) with the e…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 08:44 PM
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I can't seem to find the peer reviewed study of my life experiences. I don't actually exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 08:29 PM
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84% Ben Affleck with this photo I hate him as an actor but I'll take the match.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 04:37 PM
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why would anyone make definitive statements about something they have no experience in? I know I wouldn't. There was a guy a while back who was an advanced age virgin who wrote lengthy, unintelligible missives about things and was subsequently banned. Poor fella could not grasp any feedback that came for either his problems or his writing style. Then add in the incels and so-called femcels who mostly troll asking idiotic questions and arguing inane points when they have zero experience in many s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 04:26 PM
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as if there's a difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 03:46 PM
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YW Most women in general aren't SAHMs, but UMC+ women are more likely to be since they have higher incomes. Those stupid nasty poor women are the ones who really have to work and literally can't SAHM. My point stands; go wander the 'burbs midday on weekdays and you'll see the prissy UMC SAHMs i'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 03:34 PM
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She will stuck[sic] fuck rulebreaking Chad yoga instructor on the side, of course. But for DATING, its all about chasing that high beta. People will pretend this isn't true, but lo and behold: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/10/why-happy-people-cheat/537882/ Most descriptions of troubled marriages don’t seem to fit my situation,” Priya insists. “Colin and I have a wonderful relationship. Great kids, no financial stresses, careers we love, great friends. He is a phenom at work, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 08:53 PM
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You don't think UMC privileged women aren't out there looking for more and better? I've personally seen women blow up their comfortable, affluent lives in suburbia for better, stability and kids be damned. Bored UMC SAHMs with their fancy jewelry and fancy cars are the easiest to game IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 08:45 PM
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Asking women about it isn't going to get a huge male response fyi
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 08:21 PM
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Such fragile female egos that needs to lash out and call twitterjesus a LOSER for making a list. Add that to "NOT A REAL MAN" and "FRAGILE MALE" shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 08:18 PM
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There seems to be a moving target for what makes someone a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 08:13 PM
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Why do his looks make him a loser?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 06:36 PM
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lol no it's not a joke it's true. Plenty of women let themselves go after they get hitched since they don't have to look pretty for the wedding photos. Hell we just had hella debate last week over fat moms who give up after childbirth. It is also a common joke women don't have to have sex with their husbands anymore either?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 06:26 PM
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Why is he a loser?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 04:41 PM
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Who determines worth in the SMP?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 04:38 PM
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ermegherd "you're still a person worthy of love, despite chucking traditional markers of femininity." How is that contextually any different from telling a non-feminine broad she "deserves love"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 04:30 PM
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It's a platitude that's bandied about constantly and fits right in with what you're discussing. Not much distance between worthy, entitled, and deserving. If a woman is worthy of something (a man, etc) does she deserve it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 04:27 PM
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If a woman was trying to shed traditional femininity why would she even give a shit about some obscure Jesus looking guy's list on twitter? Doesn't apply to her, no reason for the outrage. Leave that for the basic beckys out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 04:15 PM
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Women tell eachother they deserve better than they have/can get all the time. Do women deserve better than they can get?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 04:14 PM
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Saw the tweet before it went viral and it was a obvious shitpost. Mission accomplished. Women want to be accepted by men for who they are and remain as the choosers; telling the screeching twitterverse they have any responsibility to be something other than they think they are to find a high quality man offends their strong, independent womynness since that would require both 1. effort for being better and 2. giving up their choosing power somewhat. You're perfect the way you are, you go girl! I…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 04:12 PM
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Men would bang sluts because sex. Sex is fun. Men just don't want to LTR or wife them up because of their sluttery, which is what you're referring to. Different standards for STRs vs. LTRs, just like women have. Only women complain about men's LTR preferences and shame men for having higher standards for the women they want to LTR with, like you're trying to do. And women slut shame much more than men, so there's that. Take it up with your own gender for that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 03:31 PM
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This is pretty much AF/BB confirmed
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 07:19 PM
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It's a non-trivial amount of dudes in their 20s that go through a cougar phase. "MILF" and "cougar" are widely known for what they are, specifically to younger guys dating up. 8/10 would recommend
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 07:13 PM
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Will you change your mind if these are verifiable and documented?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 06:43 PM
1

Olive oil yes, coconut oil no. too soggy and don't crisp up
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 06:40 PM
1

Shitposts like the op get equally absurd responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 06:38 PM
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You're deliberately misinterpreting the entire concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 06:35 PM
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Need to get them crispy and slightly salty or no good.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 06:31 PM
0

U can see body comp through words on a computer screen??????
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 05:55 PM
1

Lmao poor thing shouldn’t be here
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 05:24 PM
2

Ya asking specific strawman questions. Shitposting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 05:13 PM
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Shitposting is fun, i agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 04:40 PM
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You're very triggered by men's preferences. Who hurt you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 04:36 PM
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Is becoming a beta provider for someone you get along with on an intellectual level so bad? In the absence of a satisfying sex life, yes. its become somewhat of a taboo to talk weird crazy sex stuff because all of her friends are either married or have children. Oh contraire, there's plenty of that when the kids aren't around. People don't become puritanical just because they're married or have kids. Maybe she does not want to do it because at her age she feels like she's above all of that. Grou…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 04:14 PM
2

Sounds like there's some fragility in your dishwasher dealings...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 04:04 PM
1

Low testosterone
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 04:01 PM
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It's still a very weak strawman and outrightly dishonest. You're trying to shoehorn everybody into some absurdly limited set of circumstances, so of course they're going to respond within that constraint. This definitely isn't "my wife won't blow me because she said its nasty but I found her 30 bukakke vids on her old laptop with the 6 guys she dated before me and the gangbang at the frat house in college". At least have good faith with what you're trying to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 03:58 PM
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when a man says 'I want a very hot woman' he's really saying the same thing as a woman who says 'I want a wealthy man' - they're looking for someone who demonstrates a pursuit of mastery by the avenues that they have been socialized to value. Not at all. "very hot" women don't work for their looks, they're genetically gifted and straight up hot. A 9 rolling out of bed hungover will always be hotter than a 5 who hit peak getting ready with mountains of makeup. The 9 mastered nothing other than no…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 03:41 PM
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TIL not accepting a woman for any reason = male fragility.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 03:21 PM
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Male thirst and fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 03:20 PM
1

Solid Agree and Amplify right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 03:13 PM
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Do you believe this warrants “revenge” like leading her on and leaving her? lol wut? Why are all of your posts these overly specific gotchas?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 02:47 PM
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No prob, i got what you were saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 01:47 PM
1

Pls share your methodology
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 01:47 PM
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Does the manner of communication not impact the likelihood of the other person to understand and buy into the message?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 02:47 AM
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Ah yes the old “men are fragile” shaming language. Such articulate argument, so original. Wow. Who hurt you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 10:29 PM
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I think we're saying the same thing in different contexts. However, why would she loses respect for him not being able to decode it? He should just keep going his own way and not care about her. Of course he should. Most won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 05:31 PM
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I agree to a point if there are things that are communicated upfront as preferences then yes they're not trivial. That's perfectly reasonable, couples should know these things upfront and assert them. The problem with the approach you outline is it becomes nothing more than "yes dear"ing to her, placating her every whim, and being in a constant state of defense to keep her happy for any trivial thing she can decide on a whim is now "important". It's a completely one way relationship of the man k…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 05:29 PM
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Men don't learn how to decode the nagging, most men at least, which is the underlying problem of decoding a woman's nagging about seemingly trivial shit. Men who do learn know there's multiple layers of subtext behind whatever she's bitching about and can get pretty close to what the root concern is and address it. My perpetual beef with the nagging approach is that women either can't nor won't just come out and say what their root issue is so it can be addressed. It's almost always about the di…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 03:54 PM
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How do you know? Have you seen shirtless pix of "the same men"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 03:38 PM
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Generally true. And she'll telegraph her ending it with the deadbedroom, her attention elsewhere, overuse of social media, and giggling while constantly fingerfucking her phone. Classic signs she's checked out. He probably wasn’t listening to her “nagging” aka begging him to help her save the relationship. No, it was probably communicated in a cunty tone accusing the guy of all sorts of transgressions and telling him how shitty he is. Of course he's not going to listen to it. I highly doubt thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 03:01 PM
6

"Branch swinging"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 02:50 PM
1

If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 02:28 PM
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Why is it such a mindfuck that even niceguys want hot women? And what makes you think the so-called nice girl wants the nice guy in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 02:21 PM
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Who cares? OP isn't talking about high value women only. In reality, most women, even if they find you sexually attractive, will NOT engage in ANY kind of sexual or romantic activity with you unless you also make them feel comfortable/safe Unless most women are high value women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 02:12 PM
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I don't care if men claim BPD women are a universal preference, that has nothing to do with the OP. Talk about that elsewhere. We're talking about women needing comfort and trust in order to bang, which isn't always true as I outlined. Plenty of dangerous or unsavory men bang women, I doubt comfort and trust override the tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 02:10 PM
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Yes I did. A clear counterpoint that the post pregnancy body isn’t some irredeemable disaster fixed only by surgery. There are others and shocker! the women who bounce back well all are driven fitness chicks and not lazy henhouse broads on social media who complain about how it’s so haaaard and don’t even try.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 12:52 AM
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Who are you arguing with and how did you get all that from me posting a link?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 12:22 AM
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Yea its deliberate lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 12:20 AM
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Nice guys want neckbeards? Wut?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 09:44 PM
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Yea that’s cool glad u made some gainz. Like I said my girl is a fitness chick so she knows what to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 09:43 PM
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Nobody? wtf are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 09:21 PM
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I constantly see guys chase after the hottest girls in the area while the chubby pimply nerdy girls have no guy chasing after them. Who wants a chubby, pimply nerd girl? ew
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 09:13 PM
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No because my baby moms knows how to lift so she doesn't need a trainer. Silly question.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 09:11 PM
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Yea he can pay for a gym membership and all that but it's on her to have the motivation to go and actually work out. That's fair. Surgery? No, not unless there's some severe issue that can't be fixed with diet and exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 08:50 PM
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see my other post below
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 08:39 PM
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And people have known Donald Trump has been a questionable businessman and known philanderer for how long? Would you let your daughter around Bill Clinton? Do rappers with known criminal histories who rap about violence and misogyny invoke trust in the general public?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 08:34 PM
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They're worshiped because of their super duper status, not because they're trustworthy by any objective measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 08:21 PM
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BuWAZG3h_5E/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=mvpd5jyo7sqh Gtfo
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 08:13 PM
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Pay for the recovery? There is no other option other than paying for surgery?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 08:10 PM
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lift heavy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 08:08 PM
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No, because she's a fitness chick and will go back to the gym and make her gainz back and not look like a lazy slob. She's not going to eat like shit either and have the henhouse excuse her shitty diet. If you don't look like a fitness chick you're doing it wrong. Change your program and eat better.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 08:08 PM
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Would you consider the picture on the left to be an image reflecting laziness? Yes, she looks like she never worked out ever before or after the pregnancy. Would you leave your wife if she looked like the “before” picture? What the fuck do you think a woman's body looks like post-birth? Stupid question. Would you rather your wife adopt or not have kids so her body doesn’t get “ruined”? No she's going to give me an heir to my house and then go back to the gym because she's a fitness chick to begi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 07:44 PM
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tingles The only word that matters. Edit: thank you, whoever you are!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 07:32 PM
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Do these rules apply to this post lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 07:27 PM
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Most of the dudes there were the beta woman worshipping types and that clearly didn't work. They had plenty of capacity for trust and comfort, didn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 07:25 PM
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Wrong again. The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men. Sexual strategy. The rest is fluff.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 07:24 PM
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What sort of whack ass GOTCHA post is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 07:17 PM
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Wrong. It's to get men laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 07:14 PM
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full judging giraffe always looks down lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 07:14 PM
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Are replies to comments not fair game for debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 07:12 PM
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Do you read what you write? You're making your entire judgment of: so many of these men giving off a totally nasty, not trustworthy vibe oh the basis of what you read: on here? ON REDDIT. Why should any guy on reddit be blathering about how he forments comfort and trust?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 07:11 PM
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If you're around trashy people like "criminals, gangbangers, or other unsavory men" all the time, well, that says something, doesn't ? I have literally NEVER interacted with those people once I moved to a nice town near Boston with my parents years ago, and then went to college and work. Ditto for my friends. In reality away from my word vs yours there is NO reason for people of higher class to interact with people of lower class. Unless you're calling a plumber over and praying he doesn't screw…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 07:02 PM
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"I don't think I operate this way therefore it applies to all women no exceptions unless you're poor"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 07:00 PM
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on here? You're on a debate sub on reddit. Do you expect dudes to try and woo and hit on you from behind their usernames?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 06:59 PM
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Read what you wrote, it was nothing more than your disdain for the working class and below, which is a lot of people in the US. Just because you're privileged and come from a fancy town doesn't mean women are magically different.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 06:53 PM
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Why are you being classist and invalidating lower class womens' experiences? What makes UMC white girls so special in their attraction triggers? This entire post has no purpose other than to bludgeon a whole segment of the population you find distasteful.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 06:47 PM
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Most men are not unsavory men, but plenty of women will bang them. Manwhores in general are likely untrustworthy by virtue of their whoreness: celebrities, rock stars, athletes, etc...they don't have to go out of their way for trust and comfort to get some tang. In fact, women will throw themselves at these men not knowing them at all nor having the opportunity to build rapport. Women don't need trust and comfort in order to bang. EDIT: Furthermore: The men who are most likely to go out of their…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 06:39 PM
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Wouldn't the prevalence of criminals, gangbangers, or other unsavory men getting plenty of sex invalidate that claim? It's not like incels are made up of hypermasculine, borderline or outrightly violent men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 06:19 PM
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I never said it was a problem, that is projection on your part. If gender parity in professions is so important in historically male dominated fields such as STEM and business why is there no concerted effort to put more men into female dominated fields such as teaching or nursing as there is with STEM? That's my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 06:16 PM
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To be fair, I hear rumblings in my city about needing more men of color to go into teaching roles for middle and high school, although it's rhetoric and nothing more. It's probably similar in other inner cities as well, but devoid of incentives. Ask your question to the more feminist minded folks about teaching and nursing and I think you'll hear crickets.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 02:08 PM
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But you can imagine childbirth is an entire situation not to be taken lightly? You could easily argue that the more severe the experience the easier it is to sympathize. I've never lost an arm or been shot, but I can easily sympathize. That's not b.s. at all. You've moved the goalposts to sympathy from empathy, which further underscores my point. You'd be a complete liar if you think you can better empathize with severity and trauma you've never experienced vs. an experience closer to your own. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 08:03 PM
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Do you know what it would be like to be kicked in the nuts (assuming you're a chick)? Could you empathize with someone who just got kicked in the nuts the way another man can? Just as I as a guy wouldn't know the full experience of childbirth, or a period, or having an abortion. No fucking clue. Doens't look fun and looks like it hurts a lot, but how the fuck would I know? The more severe the experience the less another is able to empathize. I call bullshit on you thinking that's a low bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 07:36 PM
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It is entirely possible a fetus can kill the mother. Rare, but possible. Saw it on an episode of House a long time ago. It is also entirely possible a typical parasite can live off the host and not kill it, nor would one not even know it is there. https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/a3m88j/millions-of-americans-have-a-parasite-and-dont-realize-it But there are five in the US that you probably haven't heard of, which the Centers for Disease Control calls the neglected parasitic infections: Chaga…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 07:25 PM
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Not that it's easy, because it's relatively common and a de facto option for a newly pregnant woman alongside being a completely triggering debate in the political sphere. Everyone knows what an abortion is, everyone know's it's legal, and everyone knows it's commonplace. If it were rare and done as absolute exceptions to carrying to term there would be no debate about it's viability as a practical resolution to pregnancy, hence why it's thrown around willy-nilly. https://www.cdc.gov/reproductiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 07:20 PM
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We're arguing colloquialisms vs. your strict definition. I'll be sure to correct the OB who makes the joke at the next appointment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 07:10 PM
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but then the problem becomes why do men have such a terrible perspective on women Because men aren't women and don't experience life as women and men aren't the mindreaders women expect them to be to magically understand what they experience, think, or feel. Holding men to some absurdly high bar of empathy is silly, as is holding any human to such a high bar of empathy. Why should men have any fucking clue what it's like to be a woman? Any humans that don't live the experience of other humans ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 07:05 PM
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an organism that lives in or on an organism of another species (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense. Ask the pregnant mothers who feel like complete dogshit carrying the baby around if that description is not somewhat accurate to their situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 07:00 PM
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Some women have it kick in within days of conception and others its not as severe. YMMV woman to woman. Interesting to watch...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 06:30 PM
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It takes a very certain type of woman to believe a fetus is analogous to an unwanted parasite. This is both a truism as the baby fits the definition of a parasite and a common joke amongst pregnant women, especially with women in the medical field. A darker joke, yes, but still a joke. At the same time it's weaponized in the abortion debate and probably by younger women who never were pregnant nor had kids so that would explain your comment more accurately.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 06:28 PM
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Wtf dude just lay there and make her do all the work. You'll get into it once it starts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 05:19 PM
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Nobody is owed sex. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/a5ilfk/sex_isnt_a_marital_duty/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 05:17 PM
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make a new term lol -bucks is taken
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 04:38 PM
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beckybucks Come on now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 03:12 PM
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Quote my actual arguments. divorce is a total train wreck for women. My arguments that are in the OP. It's not in your OP since your OP is blathering on about how RP is a pit of despair for men. A pit of despair for men is not explaining why divorce is a trainwreck for women. I'm really running out of ideas here. Source the claim you made that you called "truth" that divorce is a trainwreck for women. Not that difficult since you actually said it. Arguments don't need to be sourced to official p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 07:24 PM
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Your OP is not a 3rd party study or source. Your OP is your own angry blathering. Referring to your own angry blathering is not sourcing a claim that can be verified for the words you actually wrote: divorce is a total train wreck for women. You did write that, did you not? Jesus you bloops are incredible. For all the outrage over accusing the red pill of being psuedoscientific garbage you can't at all handle being asked to source your own fucking claims for words you actually wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 06:59 PM
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divorce is a total train wreck for women. divorce is a total train wreck for women. divorce is a total train wreck for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 06:53 PM
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Your unsourced, unconfirmed conjecture is in the OP which does not reinforce THE LITERAL WORDS YOU TYPED: divorce is a total train wreck for women. Why are you so afraid of posting source links to reinforce the claims you make?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 06:50 PM
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assuming he is foolish enough to want a marriage Flew on a rich guy's private jet recently...3rd marriage. Never underestimate a man's willingness to marry, rich or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 06:31 PM
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No, I want you to source your claim. You seem to have an issue backing up your claims with any evidence besides your own screed. divorce is a total train wreck for women. Back it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 06:23 PM
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And my facts are still true even with your fact here And I personally will make the argument that not only do women suffer financially but that divorce is a total train wreck for women. They end up middle aged bitter single mothers in a dating pool where they used to be in demand. For the second time in a week, substantiate your claim showing how true your made up facts are. I'll wait. Meanwhile the guys still have all of their potential. Substantiate this baseless claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 06:16 PM
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Acknowledging women can be cruel and shitty = misogyny. I'm sorry, I forgot that Women Are Wonderful and can do no wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 06:12 PM
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The manosphere and TRP wouldn't exist if there was a useful, actionable resource for men available in the marketplace. There isn't one, therefore men with problems find RP after searching the google for answers to their problems. Be a good chap and post the great, positive alternative to the manosphere that can set men on a solid, quality course to improve their lives and share their experiences. We won't hold our breath. Hate on TRP and tone police all you want, you don't speak for men's issues…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 05:42 PM
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but that divorce is a total train wreck for women. They end up middle aged bitter single mothers in a dating pool where they used to be in demand. Meanwhile the guys still have all of their potential. False and horribly unsubstantiated. Men are much more likely to off themselves after divorce. Old study but no reason to assume anything has changed. https://jech.bmj.com/content/57/12/993 Divorced men were over eight times more likely to commit suicide than divorced women (RR = 8.36, 95% CI = 4.24…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 05:00 PM
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doesn’t know what the fuck she’s doing. Considering the widespread media about ISIS shenanigans since it's formation it's very hard to believe she didn't know what she was willingly joining.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 04:46 PM
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To be fair to the (one?) woman trying to come back to the US she is apparently willing to face prosecution as long as her and her child can return. Idkwtf to make of the whole citizen but not citizen thing in both the US and UK...not a lawyer. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/feb/22/hoda-muthana-alabama-isis-father-trump Otherwise, yes the poor, oppressed, helpless girls who left free western society on their own volition to join the most vicious, murderous quasi-state since the mongols …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 04:36 PM
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Considering the things you've admitted about yourself here you have zero credibility to lecture men on how they're wrong in their approach to romance and sexual relations with women, which is usually communicated in the most invalidating and arrogant manner possible. And in this political climate...yea that wouldn't go very well outside of anonymous reddit where folks with certain pasts aren't well received. You can be right all you want and have all your so-called facts on your side, I believe …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 07:37 PM
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No, it's you as a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 06:47 PM
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Did they pretend to be strong women and were just emotional insecure messes? Ex-wife: extremely independent, intelligent, and driven...her ambition was a coping mechanism for some severe tragedy in her childhood. I wouldn't say she played me since we did most everything in good faith, but she did admit later she is dysfunctional in relationships due to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 06:46 PM
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You created a strawman and then got upset when I didn't defend the strawman. O RLY My so-called strawman was specifically quoting your text of a claim you made, which I refuted with a pretty damn credible source which was mirrored elsewhere on the internet. Maybe directly quoting your text is considered "strawmanning" now. So be it. Hope you recover quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 06:35 PM
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To be fair, many of us have plenty of reasons to not entertain anything you say, specific to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 06:28 PM
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As soon as a blue bothers to waste his time making a solid case that one of your views are wrong you just move the goalposts while feverishly changing the subject and ad homing. Oh please, I posted a Planned Parenthood source showing women pushing birth control in this thread and you reeeeeee'd out with ad homs: It's not my fault you think that critical thinking is repeating back what other people tell you and now beep boop you will resort to current programming unless I can provide you with alt…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 06:26 PM
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WISNIFG is your friend. You engage when you should fog/negative assert; think of the exact moment when you’d get defensive and that’s when you should start fogging and force her to “fight the fog” so to speak. If she escalates and continues to be a cunt calmly disengage. You know her playbook and you know it’s a test yet you still give all the fucks about her feels; shift your mindset and use the tools to better manage the situation.
/r/askMRP20/02/19 03:34 PM
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You got a better idea beyond getting angry at the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 09:42 PM
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If all x billion women on the planet said i was a -0- and wouldn't fuck me I guess they'd be right, who am I to tell them they're wrong. Women get to choose who they fuck, not the other way around. Autistically screeching in a self rightous pity party about women not wanting to fuck me won't make any woman actually want to fuck me. Either I make myself fuckable to women thus increasing my SMV or I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 09:39 PM
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should not Too bad, it does. Play the game or don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 08:38 PM
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most men are higher on SMV due to higher effort in more areas of his life than the Women. Says who? Other men? If men assign men SMV rank, that's quite literally gay, which is fine if one is gay. And nobody--NOBODY--gives a shit about the effort a man puts into anything, most especially women. Women appreciate the result, not the effort. A high effort failure is still a failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 08:37 PM
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Annulment?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 03:03 PM
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Maybe she is the only girl in a male dominated field and feels the need to "hang with the boys" to be accepted. Maybe she's an validation whore who loves being showered with attention from her male coworkers. Maybe she has a drinking problem in general, who knows. Maybe you're insecure about betas orbiting your woman. Maybe you're too old for this shit. Figure out what your wants, needs, boundaries, and values are and go from there; it doesn't sound like you have any clue what you want and you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 07:55 PM
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She was also tickled by how easily the little girl worked her dad by being "agreeable" and "sweet"; setting up the situation as though the ball were in his court by saying I'm convinced women know from birth how to play the cutsey card to get whatever it is they want from men, be it attention or something else, which is reinforced by men as they play right into it as daddy did with his little girl. I've watched a 1 year old girl waddle around to unfamiliar men giving them the smile and doe-eyes …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 04:06 PM
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Then why do women still push so hard for marriage if they’re so willing to throw it away out of boredom? Why bother in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 08:34 PM
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I made a claim proven false so I’m going to use personal insults and disengage wahhh
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 07:48 PM
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lol you can't actually provide evidence men pushed birth control since there is none. Ok...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 07:43 PM
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Citing sources is not a rebuttal to your unsourced argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 07:36 PM
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What does intent matter if the outcome is the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 07:35 PM
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I know i'm being dramatic
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 07:26 PM
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source or gtfo
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 07:22 PM
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What's the alternative? Tell women straight up to not LTR or marry and possibly forego nuclear family life with children if they intend to get bored and want to fuck strange dick in an neverending exploration of her/their sexuality. Don't enter into a legal union with a man under the explicit pretense of monogamy if that is never her intention. Again, from the article: it would be Jane’s thirst for adventure and Jane’s struggles with exclusivity that tear them apart. Jane should have been perpet…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 07:17 PM
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But if you mean did women celebrate the free sex for everyone movement? Yes. But it was men who pushed it all. Was it, really? In her 70s, and years after most people retire, Sanger achieved one of the greatest accomplishments of her career. As honorary president and chair of Planned Parenthood Federation of America, she drove the research and development of the century’s most revolutionary medical breakthrough — after penicillin — the pill. Sanger had won for most women in the U.S. the right to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 06:49 PM
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What do you think do you want to give your daughter this miracle pill so that us guys don't have to bother with an awful condom? Was the pill not celebrated by women as the ultimate breakthrough in sexual liberation and freedom from the logical consequence of sex? Can women take responsibility for their decisions for once instead of blaming men? Yea, and let's also pretend a woman teenage girl doesn't have the agency to tell a guy to use a condom or no sex and is forced by men teenage boys to go…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 04:20 PM
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This article is how married men find the Red Pill. I've noticed a growing amount of this type of stuff in the media related to how women are getting bored, women aren't actually designed for monogamy, women want adventure, women are pushing for polyamory or open relationships, etc etc etc with the social impact and impact on men as a nonexistent afterthought. A big NYT article on open marriages from mid 2016 comes to mind: bored, DB'd couples opens marriages- Woman gets tons of action, dude gets…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 03:56 PM
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Ok but what's the link between knowing RP stuff being a gateway to being an incel? Aren't incels already incels if women don't want them to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 03:30 PM
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Why would knowing RP stuff make someone a incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 03:04 PM
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Right, all the wet panties for Aquaman were character constructed and NOT DEFINITELY NOT because of a good looking jacked dude. OP's argument is women have zero ability to find men visually attractive, yet can somehow act on this non-existent attraction to approach a man for...reasons? I can't remember when exactly, but it think it was OP who tried arguing this a few weeks ago and it was equally silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 03:01 PM
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Did you read Estrogeneration? The author points out exactly what you describe: the ubiquity of plastics and attendant compounds in everyday life fuck with our endocrine system...essentially we're completely bombarded with endocrine disrputors in every waking moment. That's extended to body care products, etc which we put on our skin without a second thought. Oddly written but its fairly well researched from what I can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 02:44 PM
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Right, has nothing to do with the A-list pretty face, perfect teeth, and jacked body.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 09:49 PM
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The women don't have eyes?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 09:46 PM
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"Hey I saw you from across the bar [twirls hair] but I'm not at all attracted to you at all [bats eyelashes]. Idk why I came here [coy smile] you don't arouse me one bit and you have no chance of having sex with me and I'm not interested in you at all [bites lip]." Ok...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 09:45 PM
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Yes, but are they expressing attraction to the man they're approaching? Why the fuck else would women approach a man if not for being attracted to him? And do you intend to argue women aren't attracted to men in movies, books, et al that aren't IRL interactions? Please...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 09:41 PM
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Me IRL. If--IF--a guy wants an LTR and especially a family it's much better to optimize on values, character, desire for motherhood, lack of psychological issues, etc than to find a hottie that is lesser on all of the above. Essentially, find the best looking girl you can who embodies all of the positive character traits that make her a decent human being and potential mother. Sexually, the biggest freaks I've ever known were not the hot ones, and there is a huge difference between a freak and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 02:57 PM
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feminism has only ever been a woman's advocacy group everything else is women's advocacy and empowerment. Well maybe it is? Make up your mind
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 01:59 PM
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Yes, I did. And your point is...?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 01:57 PM
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Taxes also pay for killing people all over the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 09:52 PM
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Feminism doesn't go around telling men they should support it because it's beneficial for men also?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 09:51 PM
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Which had nothing to do with my past, current, or future situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 09:50 PM
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It's not immoral, it's straight hypocritical and women as a whole wonder why people oppose them when they push for benefit without responsibility. Want equality? Take equal responsibility for benefits and power. This is all about muh equality, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 08:40 PM
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Idk if the SMP is so fucked thots can go run rampant on the D regardless of consequence why should men be the keepers of morality? For some reason these arguments always come back to men being the more responsible ones and the women the hapless victims of circumstance. Every single time. But muh men enable these sluts muh men should stop sluts from slutting reee For once can women take responsibility for their own actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 07:32 PM
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We've been here before https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/9b9uxl/q4all_whats_a_real_man/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 07:26 PM
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Women are not autonomous human beings and bear no responsibility for their own decisions?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 04:20 PM
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I have no idea how your brain manages to make such connections.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 03:39 PM
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If you hold that standard across any other situation it sounds silly, unless one a puritan who has a dislike of anything that at all resembles a vice. Does one blame a casino for you driving there and losing your money? Does one blame a liquor store for being a violent habitual drunkard? Does one blame the car for a speeding ticket?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 03:38 PM
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lol wut? My post has nothing to do with my ex, projection much?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 03:18 PM
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I wasn't clear in my writing, I edited my post if that helps. Otherwise i'm not following.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 03:09 PM
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There's a bit of a difference between sharing close, intimate experiences and some gold digging cunt wanting a guy to shower her with material shit because she's shallow and superficial, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 02:57 PM
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Women are the gatekeepers of sex, they can say no and refuse casual sex or set conditions for sex that would otherwise lead to a better long term outcome for themselves. Women making men responsible for women's promiscuity is nothing more than offloading their own agency and absolving any individual woman of her bodily autonomy. No man forces a woman to have casual sex and if one does it's quite clearly rape. Her body, her choice. Women are autonomous human beings responsible for their own decis…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 02:52 PM
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I had that thought also; mandatory, comprehensive prenups/ marriage contracts governing dissolution and other logistical issues. Force both parties to actually face the terms together and agree upfront, then have that enforced by the courts for most cases. This avoids the guilt trip of one party pushing a prenup and also makes people fully confront what they're getting into. Otherwise, the public institution of marriage is a complete failure in its current form with little to no care from policy…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 08:01 PM
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Quality women will fuck child rapists. Shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 07:47 PM
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Yea the way i wrote it reads as conflating feels with fun, fair observation on your part.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 10:10 PM
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No, RP believes there are quality women and those are better LTR prospects than low quality women; for low quality women don't waste your time or spin them as plates. Do what you want. In our age quality women are rare and in the eye of the beholder. Trying to find some nice, respectable girl who's also hot and not a narcissistic social media drunkard is difficult, but possible. To your title of "true love": there is no true love. You can find a quality woman and love her as a choice, but don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 10:05 PM
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Unsure if you're outlining the logic behind the Pence rule or advocating for it, nonetheless: With that in mind, even if you and the other person are completely disinterested and completely innocent, putting yourself in a position where you're alone with a member of the opposite sex is disrespectful to your relationship With that logic I should quit my job and find a male-only workplace if I intend to respect my relationship. I should never have a 1:1 with a female subordinate or coworker regard…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 09:55 PM
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You're right and i agree with you. Then again, his slippery slope starts at Queen Merkel, then to senior lady cabinet and advisers such, then to mid-level staffers, then to interns... And the same political persuasion that objects to Pence worships the POTUS that literally had sexual relations with an intern in the oval office. My rub is the hypocrisy of it all which is besides the point. Pence went full no-go as a non-negotiable as to never be put in the position to ever be accused. I disagree …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 08:09 PM
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The criticism wasn't flung on the grounds of an inability to execute the job of POTUS, it was the usual HOW DARE HE screeching about how backwards he is and how he doesn't respect women bla bla bla. The whole reason why Pence Rule came back into the mainstream was metoo and the risk mitigation blowback that came, all of a sudden he was smart for avoiding 1/1 and the same persuasion that called it stupid were now silent on the matter. Edit- none of this is an endorsement or support of him, btw, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 07:47 PM
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Yea the risk mitigation kneejerk became #mentorher in response to these exact types of articles, up to and including some smaller firms declaring they're not going to hire women at all. I think most of that is talk vs. actual behavior, but it's absolutely in the back of people's minds- men and women alike. My company isn't alone in a VERY heavy D&I culture; wall st and high finance maybe not so much but any semblance of gender segregation would cause problems local managers don't want to have. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 07:39 PM
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IIRC Pence was originally ridiculed for his rule when he was picked for VP by the various talking heads of a predicable political persuasion as being overly religious, puritanical, backwards, etc. Crickets since metoo and all that. As for me, I like the rule generally although it's sticky professionally since there are a lot of women in my line of work and we do socialize a la happy hour and have 1/1 lunches or meetings to discuss things. If I were to tell management I will not have private, 1/1…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 07:12 PM
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OK, blue pilled men who believe such things as, starting with my favorite then in no particular order: Happy wife, happy life show your love by buying her stuff keep your woman happy, don't upset her or else [you'll be in the doghouse]... She'll love you for who you are Communicate is the most important thing in a relationship Share your feelings with your woman Fix your dead bedroom by telling her how you feel. Love is sacrifice, a man should work and sacrifice for his marriage and his family "…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 04:32 PM
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Who is "the blue pill"? Your entire post gets hung up on this. r/tbp? Blue flaired people here? The "blue pilled" broader society?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 04:18 PM
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Are you fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 03:42 PM
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There's a ton of truth to it, and something that needs to be learned since it isn't obvious to most guys. Said another way, compliments of Pook, you should be fun. Fun is good and fun isn't boring. I'm not one to manufacture actual drama for the sake of manufacturing drama, but I have made an effort to flirt, tease, make bad dad jokes, be a cocky smartass, say absurd shit, etc as a baseline, which is in line with my personality generally. When I get the sigh followed by an eye-roll I know I've d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 03:39 PM
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How would you handle the typical “does this make me look fat?” Do you sperg out a yes/no because, to you, she actually wants your opinion? Or could there possibly be something else?
/r/MarriedRedPill07/02/19 03:20 PM
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I don’t celebrate Vday and think it’s just an excuse to spend money We'd get along IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 03:09 PM
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Same as buying why an absurdly expensive, shiny piece of compressed carbon to show your commitment and love is for suckers, which normal people generally didn't do before DeBeers went on a masterful marketing campaign in the 1930s to convince people to do so. Buying shit for your girl because you want to isn't for suckers; buying shit for your girl because of some very well concocted marketing effort tells you to do so is definitely for suckers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 03:09 PM
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I'm not following what you're asking for; projecting agreement or disagreement on 3rd party redditors from a satire or debate sub to convince you something is or isn't true seems kind of strange. Considering the common BP response on this sub to RP stuff ranges from it doesn't work to it's obvious everyone who isn't autistic knows this duh fukin spergs there isn't and never was a cohesive Blue Pill ideology vs. what RP calls the prevailing cultural norms and narratives as "blue pilled". Wouldn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 02:56 PM
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Lol sorry to disappoint?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 02:10 AM
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Policy has unintended consequences. Continual navel gazing and shaming =/= policy reform that can make a difference in outcome for a broader societal benefit. And the canard that “feminism benefits men too!” Is horseshit as pointed out daily here. Then again, legal weed will keep those pesky loser men at bay, playing vidya in their parents basements until they’re too old and fat to cause trouble. As for POC, take it up with the boardroom, affluent feminists trying to shoehorn the next privileged…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 02:05 AM
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Feminists certainly don’t give a flying fuck about the growing, useless underclass of men, or the overperscription of meds to young boys, or the opioid crisis. No, that’s all toxic masculinity and toxic gender roles; it’s for men to solve within themselves. Remember, 1 in 4 homeless are women!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 01:37 AM
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The sexual revolution & birth control did more to breakdown the gender contract than the last decade or so of social media/online dating/etc, no? That, and the growth of female labor participation and economic independence; all that started decades before the internet and smartphones. Perhaps the last decade of instant connectivity pushed all that into hyperspeed, that I can buy. (I should probably create a second longer post on this topic) Please don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 08:32 PM
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Sure, having a growing underclass of useless dudes is real good for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 03:44 PM
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Yet here you are, engaging with mall ninjas.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 03:43 PM
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Nice trolling. The steady decline of boys collective education achievement and workforce participation beg to differ.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 03:41 PM
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RPers are dumb so I stay away from them and don't read their dumb shit yet here you are...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 03:38 PM
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I'm sure the Browns wouldn't like being told by every other team how much they suck constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 03:35 PM
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Are feminists not advocating for policy at every level of politics in damn near every western nation? That's not exactly powerless.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 03:04 PM
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You don't win people to your cause by lecturing them on how awful, evil, and wrong they are as a class. Not how to endear someone to support your cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 03:03 PM
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I think that exact dynamic plays out the higher status/higher achieving the man is...a la a CEO/polititian having the dominatrix, etc. The opposite is prob true also: low status men want to act out their dominance sexually since they have little dominance/status elsewhere in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 04:31 PM
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It is a known thing. Some men don't know that women may not reciprocate as men would. If they don't know and they then expect, then they've created their own expectation in their own heads. I’d be interested to see if gay men use sexual favors in exchange for actual favors more freely since they are more sexually active than women. From what I've seen gay dudes will likely just go to town for no reason at all other than the fact they can, so both yes and no lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 02:49 PM
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Bitches be crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 02:43 PM
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The man didn’t concoct it in his head, it is standard between guys. You do a favor for a guy, that guy does you a favor...Women will just go “omg thanks!” And think that’s it. Right, the dude in question projected a man's reciprocal appreciation on to a woman, in his own head. So, some guys are left with the idea of “sexual favors”. ...in their own heads. Either way, the guy concocts the idea she will do something for him. Covert contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 02:25 PM
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Your last paragraph is spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 02:22 PM
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Just because it's not your experience doesn't mean it's not the experience of me or many other men; don't invalidate our experiences. The Nice Guy thing is pervasive enough to have a book written about it and how to unwind it. You're right though, the saving the damsel in distress trope is pervasive and reinforces this, but you'd have to be crazy to think positive reinforcement from female humans IRL during childhood years is less impactful than media or playing Super Mario Bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 02:20 PM
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Should have watched how women act IRL instead...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 02:03 PM
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I think I fucked up after that because I told her I told her I also said I am thinking of sending her a text and saying After all you told her, would you fuck you? You know you should STFU but you're still too ego invested in being right and telling her you're right. You missed a great way to be a cocky smartass with the "you'll take what you're given" comment also.
/r/askMRP04/02/19 08:45 PM
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The guy concocted the quid pro quo in his head and is then disappointed when she doesn't act the way he expects. That's on him, not her. A woman can complain all she wants, doesn't mean she wants shit fixed for her, or fixed at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 08:18 PM
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Right, they're (niceguys) not. Being a decent person is not the bare minimum for being tolerated in society, and absolutely can lead to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 08:14 PM
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Do you think calling her bipolar is going to help her seek treatment? You're strawmanning me. No, you knowing she could be bipolar can inform you and help you modify your own behavior to manage the situation to a better outcome, all else equal. This is precisely what I did with my brother and his alleged NPD (actual, not internet) and it helped me deal with him much more effectively than before.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 07:42 PM
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If my wife is nutty and I start googling, I have a much better ability to manage the situation, do I not? Consider also telling your SO to go seek treatment for something they won't admit is a problem probably won't go very well. What do then?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 07:05 PM
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Douchebags, assholes, and criminals get sex plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 07:01 PM
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You're correct but missing the point that some men--largely raised by women and having a female-centric feedback loop their entire developmental years--come to view doing nice things as baseline female approval. Imagine being rewarded by mommy, grandma, aunts, teachers, etc for being a "good boy" for doing nice things for women as a child. Imagine also being told while in your teens/dating years that "oh wow you'll be a great husband someday!" and "You're a catch some lucky girl will be happy to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 06:59 PM
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Not labeling every person, it's easy to label someone you have to deal with close enough to understand the behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 06:46 PM
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Who gives a shit if diagnoses overlap? If one has to deal with a nutty asshole in their life and they can get close enough to understand some underlying issue and how to manage better day-to-day that's good enough. If I get a papercut I don't need a doctor to diagnose my papercut to put a bandaid on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 06:45 PM
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Or they're selfish and destructive BECAUSE they have a mental disorder?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 03:29 PM
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I'm sure the individuals who act IRL like they have x disorder are just itching to go get an official diagnosis. I'd imagine they'd be very open to admitting they have a problem and seeking professional help.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 03:28 PM
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Thinking of human beings as 'sluts' is slut shaming...just like thinking of a human being as an 'incel' or 'virgin loser' is also a form of shaming. Sure... TRPers fetishize this shit because most of them are low SMV and can't do any better than extremely overweight women. ok...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 03:14 AM
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How does one debate being called “fragile” if they object to something? A: (states argument) B: I object A: fragile much? B: ??? It’s not a debatable topic, it’s an ad hominem that renders B undebatable. Therefore, Azngirl has no argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 12:53 AM
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“Fragile much” is certainly an insult, along with its commonly used “fragile masculinity” and so forth. Why debate a point when you can shut debate down calling the counterpart fragile?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 10:02 PM
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Just think of the collective horror of "deadbeat mom" becoming a label.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 09:14 PM
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You've never been to the "hood" in the US...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 07:34 PM
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At least you're consistent. Maybe not much fun tho :(
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 07:21 PM
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Is finding another girl to be attractive IRL cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 07:17 PM
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Cheating exists as a concept outside boundaries in my own head by a definition I made up that I'm projecting to everyone that nobody agrees with but I'm right.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 07:15 PM
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Spanking your girl is legal assault and domestic violence, even if the woman asks for it and consents because they are still doing the action that defined assault and domestic violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 07:09 PM
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Not what I was getting at in this particular thread, but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 04:23 PM
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All that said, what do you think should be your highest priority?
/r/askMRP31/01/19 04:09 PM
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What are your financial goals beyond "make more money"? Any random financial book won't motivate you unless you have specific goals in mind. r/financialindependence is worth looking at since it's more than "do this", encompassing of designing the lifestyle you want and being deliberate in your financial decisions. Poke around there and the linked blogs and something will probably help you further define what exactly you want to do.
/r/askMRP31/01/19 03:50 PM
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It's ironic in a way, the traits you're outlining for an attractive man not being shamed are actually shamed by the leading authority on psychology, on top of a leading razor company. They want to fuck dudes who can shrug off the stupid slings and arrows of the world and who charges forward and has fun in spite of it. Hell, it can be fun to rebel because of the friction, sometimes...It seems like the whole reason these dudes think "all Chads are assholes" seems to partly be because the men they …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 03:38 PM
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Calling someone "fragile" is a personal attack in itself, is it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 03:28 PM
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/worldviews/2012/04/30/why-women-are-the-worst-kind-of-bullies/#6be84b4a36b7 It's constant subversion, ostracism, isolation, etc from women against women...like they know how to hit deep down to one's core. Mean Girls shit. The gossip, rumors, all that. Nasty. I tend to think dudes getting pushed around or insulted by other dudes doesn't have that deep, isolating dynamic. In a jocks vs. nerds the nerds still have the nerd in-group and go home and do nerd shit. Girls t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 03:24 PM
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Where the manosphere man children While being easily shamed is not attractive, using blatant shaming language is a cop-out and shitty debate tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 02:37 PM
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I've witnessed multiple times that any negative consequences of female behavior predicted by red pill "gender truths" - often get dismissed (by women) as "red pill / manospherean / incel revenge fantasy". It's dismissal and shaming language used as a lazy debate tactic since there isn't a reasonable argument to make, nothing more nothing less, originating from a predictable set of folks. Who hurt you? is another fun one that gets bandied about often. Another poster likes They [RP] have little ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 02:28 PM
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Have you read No More Mr Nice Guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 02:29 AM
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We debate women’s collective bullshit here all the time, maybe ur talking about IRL and Women Are Wonderful but your way off base if you don’t think this sub doesn’t shit on women’s nonsense. Furthermore, I was a Nice Guy. I had all of the traits of the Nice Guy people here are talking about to which you’re objecting and had failed relationships as a result. So yes, I get the frustration better than most and I know exactly where your complaints come from. Have you read No More Mr Nice Guy? Edit-…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 12:43 AM
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you're one of those type who just feel that men are always at fault, the women can do no wrong. I'm fine the way I am as a man women are wrong for not wanting to fuck me You know, it's entire possible to identify unattractive and counterproductive behaviors in men while simultaneously acknowledging the shitshow that is modern dating and the bullshit games women play, right? Even so, women generally respond well to some traits and behaviors and respond adversely to others, getting on your Nice hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 10:36 PM
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Her eagerness to cater to you is another - meals cooked, happy shoulder rubs all the time, she always wants to cuddle and be right up under you, etc. Miss happy housewife may do all that out of dedication and obligation a la tradcon, religious 50's wife meme, not necessarily because she desires you in some primal way. YMMV woman to woman, but I've seen them feign enthusiasm and desire rather well. I was in Amsterdam wandering the RLD and a hooker gave me one of the best "fuck me pls I want you" …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 07:44 PM
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Your aversion to self-help books doesn't invalidate the content of the book. To me and many others the book has been extremely useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 05:03 PM
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Have you read the book?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 04:47 PM
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So there's this idea amongst edgy redditors that "nice guys" are just being nice to get laid and that they're really entitled and insincere. They are absolutely entited and insecure, which is why they're a meme. NGs operate under the assumption their niceness will be rewarded with romance and sex and the resulting, repeated failure of which self reinforces their self perceived virtue that they're better and different. Hell, a psychologist wrote a book about it as a pathology which has helped man…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 02:40 PM
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If I am to summarize your broad position it's that attraction and mate preferences are almost completely cultural and evolutionary pressures over time have little bearing. Is that about right? You do have a point that evopsych is spotty at best with causal relationships, although take something like nutrition from an evolutionary perspective and it could be a useful framework. Humans didn't evolve eating GMO corn, soybean oil, and processed sugars; an ancestral diet looks something like a broad …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 02:22 PM
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So there’s no evolutionary imperative for a woman to prefer a man who can provide; It’s just all some social conditioning? Am I following correctly? What about common preferences for physical traits in the opposite sex: is that sexist stereotyping also? I’m talking about commonly studied aspects: musculature, hip-to-waist ratio, etc. When I hear the word “sexist” being used it’s generally negative. TIL men and women both having preferences for what they want out of each other is wrong somehow an…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 02:49 AM
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Why can’t men and women have their own innate preferences and not be labeled sexist? Idk ask most of the men here and they don’t care much about a woman’s earnings capacity, while most of the women here do, and have argued heavily for why they want higher earning men. Why is that sexist? Are preferences sexist as a whole? Idk I’m not following
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 10:59 PM
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Is it a stereotype of its generally true?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 10:14 PM
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Commonly used grammar is commonly used; scootsscoots shouldn't have to change his commonly used grammar because you don't like it for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 07:02 PM
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How does a man force his wife to quit her job against her will?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 06:57 PM
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If that is what a man wants and the woman doesn't, sure she can say no, but then those two people are obviously not compatible, so they wouldn't be getting married in the first place. It's not binary and there's plenty of room for compromise, so yes it's fully relevant. Part of that agreement is that you will provide for her financially. Sure, during the marriage. When she gets the kids, child support, half the assets, the house, etc after divorce why does there need to be a permanent, open ende…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 06:46 PM
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Is there not a difference between a woman with a job (even a well paying one) and a woman whose job is the most important thing in her life?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 06:28 PM
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if you ask And she has to do it? She can't say no? How many women choose to be a SAHM? God forbid, how many actually WANT to be a SAHM?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 06:24 PM
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And people absolutely are thrown out on the streets due to this poisonous mentality you’re speaking of. Where in western society is this happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 06:22 PM
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OP can't fathom there's more than a binary of SAHM vs. Career Woman. That's where her entire argument falls apart since she's debating a strawman she concocted in her own head.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 06:18 PM
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Can you source that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 06:14 PM
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Women are not binary between SAHM and Career Woman. It is perfectly reasonable to have a woman who works and makes a good income with a healthy work/life balance that isn't a dedicated ladder climber working constantly to the detriment of everything else. You can't just abandon someone to the streets and/or to scramble because you're done with them. Hyperbole and doesn't happen. SAHM who go through divorce don't end up homeless with nothing. Add in women are much more likely to be SAHM at higher…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 06:13 PM
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That doesn’t make sense. If women didn’t want that they wouldn’t seek out rich high status men. Are women not able to express their mate preferences out of their own free will?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 05:09 PM
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Not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 04:54 PM
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I agree with you it sounds like a shitty partner. It can also be true women will tolerate it more if they’re a beneficiary of the resulting income/status/lifestyle. Why are gold digging women a thing and not so much gold digging men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 04:53 PM
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Are high powered, high status, high earning men not attractive to women, generally? Do men, on average, care as much about their women's power, status, and earnings as women do?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 03:39 PM
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Women care much more about a man's career/pay/status than men care about a woman's. Men care about having their woman present and engaged, not the lifestyle and status she brings from her career.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 03:35 PM
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Does she complain about not having a relationship/kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 03:28 PM
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Partially. It was also the company culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 02:28 PM
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Finally anyone who thinks career women live their job 24/7 has, as I earlier alluded to, never actually met one in real life. I married one: Constantly on, worked on weekends, always stressed she was "behind" on the 86 unread emails in her inbox on a sunday afternoon, felt immense guilt taking time off and would work on vacation, anything work took priority over her personal life which then created a feedback loop of guilt for not having a personal life. Wasn't fun. That's what OP is on about vs…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 02:12 PM
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Who is at the point of sale for whatever absurdly expensive facepaint, or stitchfix, or whatever the fuck else women buy that men don't? Women. Women stand there with their credit card and process the transaction. Women make the conscious choice to spend the money. Hamster needlessly all day long about the real customer is if you want, nobody forces women to herd themselves into Sephora and blow half a paycheck a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 01:55 PM
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You don't sound like much fun to be around and your ego can't handle a lack of praise and validation. Your post and every response to someone's comments is essentially "I'M ALFA AF WHY DON'T YOU FAGS SEE THAT LOOK AT HOW AWESOME I AM". You can't handle criticism at all and it all sounds like Nice Guy Rage, which should know about by now. Solution: Be more fun. Don't be such a egotistical, angry, validation seeking faggot. And read the sidebar already.
/r/askMRP29/01/19 01:44 PM
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35M 20ish 16 1- LTR/babymamma Def FWB, not so much ONS mostly red
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 02:50 AM
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Please do seek help and work through it; it's heartbreaking to watch someone living that hurt and misery. Seriously, you have to make a choice to go there and deal with it, painful as it may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 01:08 AM
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Yes, ex wife. Sexual, physical, and emotional abuse. Not fun. She managed to compartmentalize her issues and had a hyperfocus on overt achievement- career, title, etc but was emotionally closed off. Couldn't talk about relationship/interpersonal issues and would literally get up and walk out of the room and avoid any sort of discussion completely. That, and a constant undertone of misery and self hatred despite being successful, etc. She knew she was screwed up and even flat out admitted she did…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 12:01 AM
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lol at least you're honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 07:19 PM
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You post contradictory things, why are you upset when asked to reconcile them?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 06:41 PM
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You don’t need a man that bad yet you had to ultimatum him into engagement? A bit contradictory, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 03:17 AM
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Men aren't expected to and don't need to be as masculine as they were in the past. They certainly are, just not overtly. This is why men are told to watch what women do, not listen to what they say. Add in the endless debate of women demanding to be absolved of their gender roles while men are still being held to theirs (by women, especially here) a default to more masculinity is the better bet than not. Also have a look at the guys having extravagant sex lives...Many guys who are attractive to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 04:09 PM
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this means physical contact NOT ‘just looking at a guy and getting wet’ Women get plenty moist from media, pictures, movies, even books with words. 50 Shades wasn't about the physical touch of paper. Arguing there needs to be an physical contact in order to trigger arousal is silly. Explain how the henhouse gets all wound up over Hemsworth/McConaughey/the Aquaman fella when there's a near zero chance of ever meeting IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 08:37 PM
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Men can't be flat out physically ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 08:30 PM
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Why the fuck do you need another woman before you leave? Why do you need your life validated by a woman? Why are you basing your happiness on a woman? Many guys in here had some degree of a similar experience (ILYBINILWY, etc) with their wives--me included--and had to make a very difficult decision on how we wanted our lives to proceed. It's simple and it's two distinct options that have nothing to do with divorce: Keep letting your life & happiness be dictated by other people...read: women/wife…
/r/askMRP25/01/19 06:20 PM
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You actually have to like looking at your partner, especially if you intend to keep them around long term. Also, one mans uggo could be another man’s beauty; idk why you’re hung up on some moral premise of beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 10:02 PM
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TIL having no clue what OP is saying = triggered
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 07:00 PM
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Your theory is that incomprehensible gibberish results in predicable responses from men about how it's incomprehensible gibberish?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 06:59 PM
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As an insecure girl I have a hard time accepting this. You had better accept that men will look and find other women attractive. Men have to accept women will find other men attractive. This is the human condition and being one of those harpy cunts who tries to manage his sight crimes constantly will just build resentment and make the entire relationship insufferable. If your own neuroses can't handle this, you're in no condition to be in a relationship. Women are beautiful creatures and men lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 04:17 PM
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a trite biscuit of a talker. nice
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 02:14 PM
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interested in a guy who employed TRP hookup tactics I thought TRP was stupid and didn't work and was for aspie nerds who have little experience with women? The underlying assumption is someone's relative/friend is too stupid to fall for such nonsense, thus denying them agency of making their own, rational romantic decisions. Or it does work after all..?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 02:12 PM
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My job is to make money and fix things / do man work she can't do. No. Your job is to lead the household. Putting the pieces together it doesn't appear your wife trusts your leadership and you 1. Don't do and/or 2. talk way too much about what you will do instead of doing.
/r/askMRP22/01/19 03:52 PM
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Manospherians completely ignore these men because they want a cop out. Or, some of us were those exact men and had shit results being that type of man. Hate on the manosphere all you want, it helped a lot of us out of our mistaken beliefs about how to live our lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 03:32 PM
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It won't take much to go to my local bar and get someone to discuss oppression, muh equality, misogyny, the pay gap, #metoo, insert-trans-issue-here or any other feminist-leftist dog whistle terms that are known by pretty much everyone these days. Most reasonably informed, news following people could be plenty conversational about the Women's March or the Damore Google Memo. Donald Trump alone poured gasoline on the fire. Not sure where you live, maybe my very liberal state is special and more u…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 01:46 AM
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As women acquire financial independence, have sex toys for pleasure and friends for company, men become essentially useless to them. Every time there's a "Q4W: If he was perfect but didn't want to get married, what do?" post every woman here will argue to the death about how being anti-marriage is the ultimate dealbreaker and he's gone. Marriage is to women as sex is to men. It isn't men trying to cajole women to put a ring on it issuing ultimatums and threats. It isn't men who want their prince…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 04:22 PM
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Do you know what Ritalin and aderall are?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 06:54 PM
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So why all the HATE on the anti-masculine messaging? Because most of us who find TRP have been raised with anti-masculine messaging and weak masculine influences in our lives and had major issues in our lives as a result. Watching the continual and increasing barrage of anti-masculine narratives in society and the media is disturbing as many would concurrently claim "there is no anti-masculine narrative", including those here. Meanwhile, the TRULY stoic men will be left standing tall like goddam…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 10:46 PM
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Can't be a UMC SAHM going to noontime yoga class after getting chatbotted with the dad package, now can you? You pay for chadbot, chadbot doesn't pay for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 10:19 PM
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Forces couples to face many realities about marriage and potential end scenarios upfront and potentially unclog the courts in the future as separation terms are already in place. The barrier to entry to marriage is absurdly low and considering the failure rate of the institution it wouldn't be a horrible thing to better prepare couples upfront. I get the "its not a contract" thing but would it be that bad if it was? All parties agree to terms before executing the contract and have termination la…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 04:54 PM
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One supposes mandatory prenups could be non-insulting, hypothetically.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 04:43 PM
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No-Fault divorce? 50/50 split states? It's already baked into statute in most places.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 04:43 PM
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In terms of the law but potentially not at all between the parties themselves. Otherwise, what's the point of a "trial separation" if not to determine if, on their own, both parties try out not being together and the attendant freedom that comes with it. My uncle and aunt have been separated for 2 years while their divorce proceeds through the courts. Both have new SO's. Are they cheating on eachother?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 04:41 PM
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JB allegedly cheated. Allegedly, during a trial separation, or not. Allegedly. We don't know if his wife did or didn't cheat herself, nor if she had other unsavory behavior that contributed to the split in the first place. Did she deadbedroom him? Did she fuck the poolboy, maybe she banged Larry Ellison? Was she an insufferable, entitled cunt and JB had enough of her bullshit? Much handwringing over tabloid journalism, a minuscule fraction of the real story, and amounts of money that are complet…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 04:36 PM
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How are my links not relevant when they counter things you actually wrote? For example: You wrote verbatim: You are spewing propaganda. BUISNESS AND TECH DEGREES start at near minimum wage or with UNPAID INTERNSHIPS. Which is demonstrably false considering average starting salaries via the link I posted: https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/hr-topics/compensation/pages/graduates-pay-2017.aspx All STEM majors start at an average 60k, another source: https://www.naceweb.org/job-market/compensati…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 01:47 PM
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Then why are you so sure of what she "deserves" if you don't have an objective standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 01:39 PM
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Very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 03:02 AM
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By what objective standard would a disinterested 3rd party determine fault and this how much each party “deserves”?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 03:01 AM
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I gave you three credible articles refuting what you said. What about the articles I posted were not credible?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 09:07 PM
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If she wasn't cheated on would she deserve anything? I'll bet dollars also you could put up a scoreboard and she likely "wronged" him at various points during the marriage and since the only thing in the media is his fuckery we have no way of knowing. What if she wronged him several small ways that add up to him wronging her by cheating? Would she deserve anything then?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 08:58 PM
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https://www.newsweek.com/women-want-gun-control-more-men-753999 Women don't like guns and think equalizing the physical power dynamic between men and women is bad. Women are hella comfortable in their collective safety as long as they have men (with guns) to defend them with a simple phone call. Homelessness will become illegal Arrest and jail the homeless? For how long, a life sentence since when they get out of jail they'll still homeless?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 08:08 PM
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Low(er) divorce rates doesn't mean either spouse is at all happy, or the quality of the marriage is any better than amicable. The ability to stay together because of semi-rational decision making for economics and children =/= wedded bliss.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 07:51 PM
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You are part of the problem, that equates success with handwork and being poor with moral failure. You are spewing propaganda. Never said that, stop trying to demonize anyone who disagrees with your hyperbole. And a "craigslist" jobs survey is bullshit, where's the breakdown from actual, credible, professional job boards? https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/05/the-us-labor-shortage-is-reaching-a-critical-point.html There's a severe labor shortage in skilled trades that doesn't require 4 years of colleg…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 07:00 PM
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starts at 12 dollars an hour trying to payback 40 grand for their degree. Should have gotten a more useful degree that has better pay OR learned a skill that pays a hell of a lot more than 12/hr without 40 grand of debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 04:25 PM
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Let's guess...your sex life isn't quite as fun and adventurous as your precious wife's party years and that bothers you, eh?
/r/askMRP14/01/19 03:59 PM
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I'm assuming you're referring to singles buying homes rather than couples. usually with a yard 50% of the time needs cosmetic work Dudes like having their projects and the satisfaction of making it their own via their own handiwork. Nor do they mind mowing the yard, raking leaves, etc if that's not provided via a HOA. The prospect of a fixer-upper is very appealing as is a garage full of power tools. I suspect women--on average--don't care for much of that beyond decor and want something low mai…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 02:21 PM
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Idk, too many men are retarded and will wife up anything. Not many men actively look for a woman to add significant value.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 09:29 PM
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She has a lot of fine lines and wrinkles due to hard work and stress. No, she has fine lines and wrinkles from being a 40 year old woman. He begins to have young, hot women throwing themselves at him. "WOMEN DON'T LIKE OLD MEN THEY HAVE A WALL TOO STOOPID RED PILL REVENGE FANTASY REEEEEEEE"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 09:22 PM
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You're right on that point; very much Lightswitch Effect. I've since learned that lesson.
/r/TheRedPill11/01/19 09:09 PM
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You weren't pimping your wife; weak frame. She didn't feel the spark anymore and then they just start making up these bullshit perceived 'flaws' That's what I eventually learned the hard way.
/r/TheRedPill11/01/19 09:02 PM
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it is what women desire. Incomplete- it's what societies desire need. At some level society can't pick and choose via some shitty social engineering which traits are toxic or harmful or not, or call on them to manifest themselves when convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 08:56 PM
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The evidence keeps piling on though that the way men have existed forever is not only unhealthy for those around them (as we've been saying for decades) but is harmful to them as well (as we've been saying for decades) "As existed forever" has built society as we know it, so GTFO with that. The world wasn't developed on the backs of effeminate soyboys who emote like women and can't lift heavy things. "Harmful" is a moving goalpost with regards to masculinity, and things that most would argue are…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 08:46 PM
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You're conflating a math problem in an economic/political/cultural structure based on idiotic assumptions with an individual lifestyle preference. The two are not at all aligned and are actually at odds with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 05:36 PM
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On the other hand men raised by good father material tend to be dutiful, group-oriented, dependable and dull. Absolutely right, but not independent of the "raised by women" comment. Consider that boys "raised" by these types of fathers also had the mother as the alpha in household so the boys are modeling the father's subservient, keep-the-woman-happy behavior of the father and thus end up just like spineless daddy. If the father isn't providing the masculine presence to balance the mother's fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 05:22 PM
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To your underlying point, women want a guy who just gets it. Women don't respect the effort it may take to get it, or the time and energy it takes to accomplish anything, really. They simply care that in the here and now, you genuinely get it and aren't faking or coming across as a try-hard. Men naturally take satisfaction in putting in effort to an intended result and oftentimes will look to have the effort validated vs. just the outcome, which isn't at all how women want to view their lover, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 05:11 PM
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More like had weak or no father in the picture. That's arguably more impactful than a batshit mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 05:00 PM
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And you don’t have your own confirmation bias? Your only retort is literally a gender swap. Furthermore, wanting the responsibility of being the breadwinner and being the breadwinner is the same thing. Your argument doesn’t even make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 11:23 PM
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Your dismissal of the argument is "who cares" yet you're here debating this exact shit on a debate sub. And your other dismissal is veiled personal shaming, which is not a useful debate tactic. I don't actually have a point to make, therefore "who cares" and mild character shaming since I have nothing better to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 07:34 PM
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It sounds like there’s still some blue pill lingering in you. What are you on about? Anything I wrote about her being a victim is from her POV. I don't know if we're agreeing or not tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 07:30 PM
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The study showed using indirect communication is bad and counterproductive. RP men have experienced any manner of over-emoting to their SO and using them for support is completely and utterly counterproductive. Both are two sides of the same coin: stop emoting at your woman and using her for emotional support. When you're raising boys as defective girls encouraging them to emote like girls under the guise of "healthy masculinity" and other horseshit, the line between insecure, indirect validatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 07:22 PM
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Come to think of it...who cares. Yet here you are...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 07:12 PM
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But it explains why TRPers think that opening up will always try up her pussy, because I'm almost certain that none of them had enough self-esteem to actually open up and communicate their issues. No, it explains why men find TRP because every other piece of retarded relationship advice tells men to open up and share your feelings with your partner and be honest and communicate more and be more sensitive. Basically, emote at your women like you're also a woman, as you just idiotically told men t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 06:41 PM
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Right. You can create some good feels with a woman if you open up periodically from a position of strength vs. emoting constantly. This is Mark Manson's "vulnerability" concept from Models.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 06:27 PM
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It's the guy who gave her the best tingles; the one who got away and wouldn't commit or broke up and moved on. To your question, this could be a beta as we would describe but he was an alpha to her. If she was promiscuous she could have more than one of these (i.e. college D1 football groupies) who could pull high T, jacked, high status men easily as a co-ed but is dealing with billy beta accountants at 29. Every guy afterwards is measured against him/them as the benchmark for what she ultimatel…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 06:24 PM
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Career women rarely date down and want an equal or above earning man. Career women also get baby rabies and voluntarily elect themselves to lower paying roles, part time work, or elective SAHM putting more of the provisioning role on the man, while screeching OPPRESSHION and bitching their men don't do enough. Show me all these career women electing lower earning mates and absolving men of their provisioning gender role and then maybe you'll have a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 05:55 PM
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She can pity fuck her husband and convince him it's his, and have him raise the kid without any fear of legal repercussion. She has no reason to leave a stable, supporting, providing man if she cheats and can keep him from finding out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 02:37 PM
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Because women get bored and dissatisfied in their marriages for various reasons--up to and including weak, frumpy, manchild husbands-- and the current environment of self reinforcing clucking hen social media will convince her she deserves better. Ergo, women terminate the marriages and either branch swing or try to live their party years again. I can't find a way to reconcile this with the RP model of attraction in any case. Put it this way: When you're trying to game a single woman, you're com…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 02:34 PM
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Women should collectively step up their game to take higher earning jobs and be more responsible with their money as to accumulate more wealth in their youth. Men would have more higher earning, well off women to choose from.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 02:05 PM
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Yet they can take that approach, it’s a preference not to. In fact, any woman with a smartphone can do it—which is damn near every western woman— this their ability to get laid quickly exists universally irregardless of whether they choose to take that approach or not. Woman can also go to a bar and proposition drunk men until one is willing to fuck her too. Odds are she will be highly successful. May not be her preferred method nor a chad but she can get dick easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 08:08 PM
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Considering your husband-to-be is foregoing fucking other women in exchange for exclusivity with you it may be in your best interest to keep him happy in that regard. Do you think witholding sex in a marriage is healthy? Can you make a happy, healthy, intimate relationship without the physical intimacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 07:34 PM
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A mediocre looking women can't go on tinder, et al and post: It's 1PM EST on 1/9/19 and I want to get dicked down tonight. Who wants to fuck me? And not have loads of drooling men absolutely throw themselves at her?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 06:01 PM
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Not entirely congruent with this but related, but despite me earning more than my ex wife when we were married (~150k vs. ~110K) she had complete and utter contempt for me because my job wasn't as stressful as hers, nor as time consuming, nor had coworkers with fancypants Ivy League degrees. My ability to be a top performer in a fairly specialized field meant nothing. My working for a Fortune 500 Dow Component Best-In-Class profitable company meant nothing compared to her self-described shitty, …
/r/TheRedPill09/01/19 05:28 PM
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Flaking out, ghosting, bullshit games...all done over a medium that conveys nothing other than words on a screen. So yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 03:29 PM
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You played games deliberately flaking out on dates for really no practical reason. Perhaps you weeded out high quality men who don't play silly games and don't want to put up with bullshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 03:28 PM
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You’re right, there are a lot of substandard, low quality women out there. The good ones are extremely rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 03:11 AM
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Not really, plenty of dudes that have experienced the disdain and contempt from their wives in this regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 09:50 PM
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Great to hear. Most women don't/can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 09:29 PM
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Most all of it outside of "bang sluts at the club bro".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 07:56 PM
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It very well could be, but at a point it's less how hot she is and more of how weak he is. That was me and my ex wife tbh. Plenty of men are attached to ugly landwhales who are complete cunts; the "Karens" of the world. They tolerate tons of hell AND don't even get to look at a pretty face. That's 100% weaksauce, spineless dudes right there. Either way, it's not fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 07:30 PM
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A dude with a hot GF does not care if she acts like a thunderstorm No matter how hot she is, some guy somewhere is sick of her shit Tolerance for bullshit is higher, but not unlimited. that provides a bit of free entertainment. Most certainly not entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 07:23 PM
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On second read, the comments yet again confirm women have different rules for different men. Fuccbois/alphas/chads/ONS: "lets bang who cares teeheehee" Betas/decent guys/relationship material: "No sex for you, not right away at least! You have to earn sex from me, keep it off the table at first and court me properly!"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 07:08 PM
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Women don't like being called a slut if they're easy and fuck a lot. Men don't give one flying fuck being called any derogatory name under the sun if he can get laid easily, and/or develops a reputation for fucking a lot...which self reinforces his ability to get laid. Why is this so hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 06:23 PM
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For sure, 100%. The old "I'm not like those other guys" mating strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:30 PM
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Why would a woman want to fuck an immature jackass with nothing to offer? Why not just find a more decent guy and fuck him?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 02:51 PM
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This is a perfect "don't listen to what they say, watch what they do" case. Women freely fuck the fuccboi. He's attractive to women and can get laid easily. Women don't like that they're attracted to this player-like fella with questionable redeeming quality otherwise, but they still freely fuck him because...tingles. Women then turn around and hamster it away, offloading their confusion as insults and shaming, thus dismissing him to the world as a fuccboi and absolving themselves of responsibil…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 02:50 PM
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Yet women freely fuck him, hence the moniker. Quite desirable for an "immature jackass who doesn't have much to offer"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 02:42 PM
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They certainly are, especially in this modern age of ego inflated, selfie taking narcissists. And any women going around calling herself a "good woman" is definitely not one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 02:14 PM
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good women are rare Took a lot of failure on my part to learn that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 02:08 PM
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Can you do all that while not resenting your man for not stepping into the traditional male gender role, while still desiring him as a mate and lover?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 01:54 PM
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Lots of women these days want a relationship where the parties share more jointly in the house/outside house work as well as a relationship that looks more like a partnership in terms of decision making. Came across this the other day at random: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/rediscovering-love/201408/why-great-husbands-are-being-abandoned-0 In the last few decades women have slowly driven their point home. The millennial men, who are their current counterparts, are freer thinkers and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:09 PM
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I think I'd slowly poison a man if I was relegated to "first mate" simply because I have a vagina. It's not relegating the woman, in my and many others experience women--on average--wanting a man to step up and lead the relationship from courtship through decision making in a family unit. Women--on average--still want a man to fulfill the traditional male gender role while simultaneously having the option to be free of theirs, when they want to be free of it. There are obviously exceptions to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:02 PM
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You're now the first. Are you the matriarch of your family, inclusive of primary breadwinner, decision maker, and your husband stays at home?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 06:47 PM
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are you prepared to make all the decisions, make all the cash and support several stay at home ladies (if you have kids) That's what women actually want out of a guy in our modern age, so.... Now if you can find a woman who is openly advocating for her to be the primary breadwinner, decision maker, and have a SAHD thus making her the matriarch that would be quite rare and I've yet to find a woman online or IRL willing to argue for that. The best way for a guy to have a happy marriage and happy f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 04:04 PM
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You, like me, vetted our hot wives poorly and had a short lived marriage. Consider yourself blessed it only took 1.5 years to realize how much of a fuckup you are and for all this shit to go down. My first year of marriage was complete hell and finding this place arguably saved my life. We didn't make it to 2, nor did we have kids either. File, find a way to protect your income and assets, and move on. Depending on her temperament and ego it could be easy, hell, or both. Keep your shit together …
/r/MarriedRedPill01/01/19 03:12 PM
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You're MGTOW for the reasons you outlined: you went your own way (by literal definition) on your own terms and are content in doing so. Whether some asshole wants to yell at you for not having a sex doll in lieu of your FB is up to them, but clearly "going your own way" doesn't need a plastic blow up litmus test in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 03:28 PM
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Yea no shit lol there's nothing to debate. Fella is happy doing his own thing and doesn't fit into a specific internet edgelord box. What do you think there is to debate here?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 03:23 PM
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TRP will say that I am not Red Pill enough. MGTOW will say that I am not GMOW since I have my FB. And BP says that I am not BP since I don't seek a (traditional) relationship. Why do you care what strangers on the internet think in some sort of ideological purity test? If you're doing you and are happy, fuck em.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 03:11 PM
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Marriage is a risk! What's the benefit to the guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 11:12 PM
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The women RISK something by giving their prime years of youthful beauty, trusting good-will (innocence), reproductive window, etc.. to a man and they would be imprudent if they give those things away without caution. 3 things: 40% of kids are being born out of wedlock in the US. Single mommyhood, bla bla bla, women are not being prudent with their youth and fertility. Women (here) will argue to the death they don't need no man to be the provider any longer, they have their own economic freedom a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 11:06 PM
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If this and her replies are seriously OP's thoughts on the matter re: her pending marriage holy fucking shit is she and her poor soon-to-be husband in for some shit. I lived a failed marriage and the red flags are everywhere here. OP: please reconsider WHY you're getting married and WHY him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 05:33 PM
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Aaaaand this is how men eventually find the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 05:20 PM
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People are allowed to reject sex without worrying for their marriages. If you're rejecting constantly then you wouldn't mind your SO having a side piece to fulfill their needs, right? After all: Presumably, the marriages are deeper than that, no? It's only sex, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 05:16 PM
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It's beyond this video and you know that. There's videos all over the internet of women acting the fool in public, stop pretending it's not a thing. If your premise is "it's on the man to not be a violent retard" then what is the limit for a woman to be verbally and physically abusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 07:12 PM
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I don't disagree at all that there's changes happening, I just think it's not severe enough to cause widespread problems YET. For as long as there are more well earning, self sacrificing martyr men keeping at it thinking the old model is still the one society rewards the party will continue. And when they're not rewarded they'll work harder, pushing against a string until divorce, retirement, or death. By the time THOSE men figure it out they'll be dying off in later age anyways so their product…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 07:10 PM
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its on the man to not be a violent retard A woman can be physically violent towards the man with no no expectation of consequence? How far, exactly, can a woman push a one way physical altercation before something else happens? That's a really shitty "Muh Real Man" argument there, excusing a woman's violent behavior as the man's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:56 PM
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Plenty of chumps out there unwilling to reconsider the "work harder" model, so yes it will keep running.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:37 PM
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They also expect the woman to scrafice her earning potential to refuse OT and shifts to take care of family/household matters while he doesn't. So then he outearns her. Then cries divorce rape when a court splits the assets. We're on the curtail of super moms who had to be both a great mom, and star worker whilst dad really was only expected to do one. Wrong. Women self impose their own standards for all of the above while reserving the right to complain about some external influence "forcing" t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 02:58 PM
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Speaking with a number of Puerto Rican girls who think I'm hot (I live in an area with a HUGE PR population and have been to PR, not that it's representative of all latinas but close enough): I'm a good looking white boy north of 6 feet, they say I'm "hot and exotic" compared to their typical PR men they're around. I'm also a professional and make good money and they know that, so...yea there's that. They respect strength also, both physically and a projection of strength. I also flirt and "retu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 02:50 PM
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when If*
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 05:53 PM
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she-chad Gonna keep that one around for later
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 09:56 PM
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No, I wouldn't. But, that's not how OP operates nor a lot of other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 09:39 PM
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why do you keep mentioning sex bots to me lol what do you think i am?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 09:08 PM
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i'm still here to share an enlightening message for the men who want to hear it It's enlightening only to the extent it's textbook Red Pill, which is what women and bloops try to argue doesn't exist or is some projection from insecure men or whatever insult du jour happens to be. It's OK, it's female nature to feel this way. It's not bad. Accept it, you're a Red Pill woman and always were...no reason to try to convince us you're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 08:12 PM
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i have to turn down my man more often that i'd like because i can't keep up and i'd be unhappy if i felt compelled to in any way lol the married dudes here who survived a dead bedroom heard this same shit from their wives for so long and I'm one of them. We see through this shit and we know how it ends. Considering your OP and the two sets of rules you laid out quite clearly along with telling Lewis this advice is to get "women like me", it sounds like you settled for someone who doesn't stoke y…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:32 PM
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In the days of yore some men figured it out to their great benefit. The rest of the chumps believed this horseshit and got treated appropriately.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:22 PM
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when you evolve past sex as the central sun in your universe By that logic, deadbedroomed couples should have zero issues in their relationships since both of them (especially the man) should have "evolve past sex..." That's not at all how humans and intimacy work. Ask anyone--man or woman--in a sexless relationship and they'll tell you how utterly devastating and depressing it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:14 PM
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The only good reason i can think of is women are weaker and couldn’t physically enforce it Much like anything else, you can't enforce a dictate across a population without the threat of violence. For women collectively to enforce things as you intend, you essentially need men with guns willing to use violence against other men as an absolute.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:11 PM
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well played lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:08 PM
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How many Islamic countries have anti-woman and anti-gay laws on their books that would be otherwise be considered abhorrent in the West?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:54 PM
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I do admire your honesty in the matter and you seem like a genuinely good gal (or you're a very good troll...can't tell which) even if you did absolutely confirm AF/BB, women make rules for betas, and other common RP tropes beautifully even as you intended to not. Between this and your comments you're absolutely not seeing the male side of the equation, and to a certain extent you can't since you're not a dude. You can't understnad how visceral and real the desire for sex is as a dude and how me…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 04:04 PM
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But you'll fuck him with less restrictions than the other guy...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 03:45 PM
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Not at all the message I was trying to get across. Lol that's literally what you said: But, if it's going to be all about sex in the short term, we'd rather it be with a good looking, confident Male. Women care so much more about connection and character than looks and confidence. We want a good man who will love us for who we are. Nothing special. (lists hoops to jump through) LOL come on... You want to fuck the "hot guy". You want to "settle down" with the "not hot confident guy" and... Keep s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 03:44 PM
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The new standard for wanting to fuck a guy isn't attraction, it's "he won't tell everybody"? Kind of a silly way to express one's sexuality, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 03:09 PM
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Instant Patriarchy. A real one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 01:45 PM
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Which outdoor activities are more oriented towards women? And which on his list are male centered outside of hunting and fishing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 04:51 AM
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This intense pain has converted me back into the Beta I know and hate. LOL no you were always a beta. Don't delude yourself. This is simple- Your opening the relationship gave her carte blanche permission to do whatever she wants because you love her, right? It's open after all, right? Don't you want her to be happy? he now believes I won't leave the relationship because (of course) I issued ultimatums regarding their contact, and what's worse, didn't even follow through on them. She's becoming …
/r/MarriedRedPill06/12/18 08:42 PM
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You might care in a few years...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 07:12 PM
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Duty without desire is dishonest... What? Sexually. Do you not agree base desire in your partner is necessary for a healthy sexual, intimate life? You've twisted what I said and made it a strawman. I didn't make it a strawman, I pointed out a crucial missing component of your OP: desire. If you want to discusss sexless marriages you MUST include a desire component or else it's nothing more than platitudes and rules absolutely ignoring the base level attraction that makes humans want to bang each…
/r/RPChristians06/12/18 03:15 PM
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Awesome sex, solid morals, not prone to cuntyness, decent family, mentally stable, drive to improve herself, etc. Essentially as close to a unicorn as one can get outside of the looks department.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 02:22 PM
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but until men are doing equal work inside the home the women wants him to do to the exclusion of everything else he may do fixed. Funny how all the bleating about the man not doing enough housework excludes any work the man actually does and is under the complete purview of a limited set of tasks typically done by the woman. Muh Housework is nothing but a shaming tactic, same as Muh Emotional Labor! and the rest of the made up moving goalposts for women to complain about. The woman for damn sure…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 01:48 PM
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So there is a floor on what is an acceptable level of earnings a man needs to be a suitable mate, enforced and selected for my women, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 11:11 PM
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A man can’t pull his own weight if he doesn’t have a high income?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 10:11 PM
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How does “want a high earning man” not produce an enforcement of a male provider gender role by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 10:04 PM
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Per the study, women are selecting mates on the basis of earnings potential as a major factor. If women are selecting for that trait they are actively enforcing the breadwinner role on men. Therefore, to claim “no one’s enforcing it” is demonstrably false.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 09:50 PM
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But being the breadwinner in a relationship...that’s still a perfectly valid gender role for men for women to enforce. Don’t give that one up!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 09:06 PM
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I get the point of the post as a critique of two differing models of marriage and relationships. What isn't clear--to the point of being red pilled--is desire on both the man and woman's part since base desire at some level is necessary for a healthy intimate life. Otherwise, you're just roommates that get along, or parents to children but not lovers. A woman can do her duty as a wife sexually, but that can be just as or more unsatisfying than not doing her duty at all. Duty =/= Desire, obviousl…
/r/RPChristians05/12/18 08:25 PM
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Is duty/starfish sex under the guise of a wife serving her husband all that much better than a dead bedroom?
/r/RPChristians05/12/18 05:52 PM
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Women are the gatekeepers of sex. Men are the gatekeepers of commitment. Both can be and are often weaponized--usually and especially sex--sometimes unconsciously but often very deliberately and women have mastered this much better than men ever could. And Single Mommy over there will absolutely weaponize her vagina for money and provision while feeling entitled for it at the same time. I do agree with you on the morality and I wouldn't do it, but I'm not going to fault a guy for playing the exa…
/r/TheRedPill05/12/18 03:59 PM
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Remember that single moms are looking for a man to help raise their kids and provide financial stability; they're not looking for hookups unless you're exceptionally attractive. So for average men, the most effective way to bang single moms is to present yourself as a man who wants to have a family and to take things slow. I fail to see why one needs to engage in some drawn out strategy to bang a single mother, wasting one's precious time and money taking it slow in some courtship process that i…
/r/TheRedPill05/12/18 03:42 PM
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All that responsibility being a landlord, vacancy risk can impact cash flow, unforeseen maintenance expenses...
/r/askMRP01/12/18 04:45 PM
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What makes you think your 17 year old child knows what she wants? Do you even know what you want?
/r/askMRP29/11/18 03:08 PM
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The other big issue I have is generalizing all women based on the behaviors of a limited number of primarily white upper middle class women between the ages of 18 and 30. I remember some black dudes coming in here a while back talking about how RP holds true and is even magnified in US black culture, not to mention the growing black manosphere movement nobody seems to notice. So no, it's not only UMC white girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 09:17 PM
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Women want something to think about. If you are not giving your woman feelz and tingles, you can 100% be assured she is getting them somewhere else. Facebook, Buzzfeed, some guy like me…..SOMEWHERE. Pure truth, she'll go find it somewhere and not even realize she's doing it nor for what reasons. For everyone who complains about their wife fingerfucking her phone constantly, guess what: Her phone is more fun and interesting than you, up to and including girlfriends she's texting about how shitty …
/r/MarriedRedPill28/11/18 09:01 PM
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Congratulations on your unicorn!
/r/MarriedRedPill27/11/18 02:42 PM
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btw, I raised my SMV a lot through MRP - didn't work O Rly? Idk, usually when guys show up here talking about raising their SMV the stories of IOIs and attention from other women come in short order. Instead, you've wed yourself to a fleshlight. You've clearly learned nothing here whatsoever. Enjoy going your own way.
/r/MarriedRedPill26/11/18 05:53 PM
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why are guys ending up with nasty selfish ones who refuse sex and belittle them? It almost never starts that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 07:29 PM
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Why on earth would men make it a life goal to make money only to throw it away by choosing women less successful than them Your fundamental assumption is wrong; you don't "throw away" anything if your woman is less successful or makes less money. There's no practical need for a woman to make as much as me considering I do very well for myself. Below a certain point there's a subsidy from man---> woman but once shes above an income threshold that she can support herself it's additive to the entir…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 07:24 PM
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Got anything better than unsubstantiated conjecture and strawmen?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 04:19 AM
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So my question is why do red pillers feel angry when they are left by their spouse Why do dutiful betas who tried so hard and sacrificed so much to keep his wife happy get so angry when he's left by his spouse?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 11:03 PM
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On one hand I have internalized a cultural norm Uninternalize it. Deploying a strategy based upon such analysis on a micro person to person scale feels clinical. It feels as though you run the risk of depersonalizing a single party in what is supposed to be an interpersonal interaction. Operative word: Feels. Start to know the difference between how something is and how it feels. Your feeling of guilt, "affront to masculinity", etc informs something that isn't about patterns or data or theoretic…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 10:48 PM
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what you’re really saying is AF/BB are two ends of a continuum that individual men can encompass to some degree, rather than an insidious dual mating strategy that will always leave women hungrily hypergamous for either passion or security. I mean, it's both to some degree, aside from your use of "insidious". Continuing whit the trope and 50Shades as a base: Ana didn't look at Christian and say "oh gee he'd be a great hubby and daddy someday better go get him". No, it was the initial, passionate…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 07:55 PM
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You had a fair point about it not being the ultimate fantasy, that was a stretch on my part. I'm still curious why it's still compelling enough a trope to sell millions of books to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 07:43 PM
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My answer is maybe and it doesn’t matter. It is something women are into in our current society whether it is natural or inate seems totally unimportant. lol nothing we talk about here matters or is important yet we're still here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 07:41 PM
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Fair point on it not being the "ultimate". My point stands: just because you don't experience it yourself doesn't invalidate it as a compelling fantasy amongst a large number of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 07:29 PM
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So women do or do not find that fantasy compelling? Its either a compelling female fantasy/storyline/trope or it isn't. Book sales disagree with your claim it's not compelling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 07:25 PM
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Can you back up that claim it was created by men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 07:22 PM
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It was a yes or no question, and I'm asking your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 07:21 PM
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What's with this self disempowering narrative? What? I'm trying to break down why this trope is popular with women since it's women buying millions of books on the back of the narrative. I've had to deny a lot of men this desire to "nail me down" with a family and a ring. That has nothing to do with why the "tame the alpha" fantasy is so popular with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 07:18 PM
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domesticated alpha, not beta bitch What's the difference? He's no longer that "wild alpha", in SpaceWhiskey's words: He submits to her. She managed to undo his prior behavior to make him what she wants him to be and locks him down in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 07:15 PM
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We are inundated with narratives about taming men. Do you think it strikes a chord deeper than just a narrative, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 07:11 PM
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Why did 50 Shades sell 100 million copies if SpaceWhiskey's summary of its popularity is false?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 07:10 PM
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Is the storyline/trope/fantasy common and popular or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 07:08 PM
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Do you disagree with SpaceWhiskey's summary for why 50Shades sold 100 million copies? Just because you didn't have the fantasy doesn't mean it's not a common enough female fantasy/trope in the marketplace to be popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 07:07 PM
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Thanks for the thoughtful response. The end goal isn't domestication but winning. Aren't they one in the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 07:05 PM
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Wtf. No, male orbiters are not common knowledge. Friendzone. Everyone's heard of friendzone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 04:32 PM
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I just think that any aim to systematize interaction between blocks of people, particularly in a context within which such respective blocks have competing motives, is both a little dehumanizing and dispiriting to read through. The entire marketing industry is based on systematized behavior and interaction. Any professional sales force works by similar frameworks. Both have the ultimate goal of parting the buyer with their money. RP systematizing interaction is only controversial because its dea…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 04:14 PM
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-On Billions, Paul Giamatti and his wife Not without its intense share of outright strife, even if it did settle into something stable. Arguably, Axe and his wife were the healthier couple, until they weren't...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 03:32 PM
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In conclusion, women do not like 50 Shades because of bondage, they like it because it is the ultimate shy female fantasy. An average girl tames an Alpha playboy, she brings him to heel despite his desire to dominate her and he one by one caves to her every demand, giving up his player lifestyle, his sex dungeon requirement for their intimacy, his fear of commitment, his mommy issues, his stance on kids. She gets out of him everything he swore he would never give: normal sex, marriage, a big hou…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 03:21 PM
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Saw a tweet today of a girl saying... How much money do we want to bet that same girl in a week will be tweeting something totally different?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 03:00 PM
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When men say that it's not fair for women to wear revealing clothing No. Men love revealing clothing. We just hate women's collective double standard of dressing like an attention seeking skank then getting mad you get the attention from men you didn't want attention from. I dress like a skank but I don't want unsolicited attention, until I want attention, but only then I want attention from the men I want attention from, not anyone else I don't want. I'll expect all men to know exactly where th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 02:48 PM
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It's wrong to act on temptation regardless of the circumstances. Quickly becomes: "OMG why won't any men approach me I do my makeup and dress like a skank and I don't get any attention GIVE ME ATTENTION omg whyyyyyyyyy??!????!!!111"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 02:37 PM
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Right. Women can feel however they want to feel. That doesn't mean they were actually exploited by the fact pattern at hand. The definition of the word exploitation clearly shows an active use of an imbalanced or unfair situation for one party's benefit. 80% of women wanted to fuck and sought out some guy to fuck; they own their agency in making that decision and the resulting feelz are their own. Don't want to feel exploited, don't engage in the behavior that leads to those feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 09:33 PM
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How exploited were you if you willingly and knowingly entered into a situation knowing the goal and outcome ahead of time? women who hook up are typically assertive actors I wanted to have sex: 80% Men can't be held responsible for how women feel for things women knowingly and willingly engage, especially for things women actively pursue. Do Hook-Ups exploit women? No. If a woman seeks out and engages in a hookup she knows exactly what she's doing and is solely responsible for her own feelings a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 09:15 PM
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If one party leaves psychologically damaged, can you really say that? Whose responsibility is it for any psychological damage, assuming there was no force or coercion?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 08:59 PM
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I have female coworkers who often refer to game by the word "game" when talking about the ability of a dude to interact with women. Say game to anyone under the age of 40 and they'll immediately get what it is in the proper context.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 07:36 PM
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Great track record of debating attractive traits this place has. Idk make your own thread if it sucks so bad. a basic definition of it Behaviors and social skills. Broad definition. Dude, based on what I've read here the dudes posting here are literally bottom barrel. Like invisible to most women who are dating material. You evaluate people's attractiveness IRL on what they say on Reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 07:32 PM
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I don't see a single thread about the those things on the front page. Sure there are. The needy/vulnerable thread is one of them. Because maybe I'm right? According to...? What is the objective standard for relevant debate that makes you right and someone else wrong? Sorry that your little crutch is basically "whatever someone wants it to be" No, as quoted repeatedly before none of anyone's answers were in direct conflict and by your admission were only lacking further specificity. when those pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 07:23 PM
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Dude they will be much closer than this stuff the people here said You're hung up on details while most every broad definition is in agreement. Go debate what are the most important traits for attraction. We do all the time, and repeatedly. Not this cheap "game" chicanery that some marketing shills came up with. Why show up to an established debate community to tell the people there what is or isn't relevant to debate, or what debate is pointless or not? I get you're new here but damn... Without…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 07:05 PM
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You're such a silly goose what's with this low effort analogy? You're right, I am a silly goose. You missed my point, I specifically said ask 10 people to DEFINE basketball. Each person's stated definitions--the words out of their mouths--will be different, but not conflict. Your stated definition and mine will be different. The words we actually use to express the same concept. Do you think people can define the same concept with different words yet mean more or less the same thing? that blabbi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 06:42 PM
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game is cope you're gonna get banned for that one
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 06:30 PM
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Ask 10 people to define "basketball" and you'll have 10 different definitions that don't conflict in the underlying premise of what "basketball" is. I never thought about it and frankly it doesn't matter to me and shouldn't to anyone else. I learned of this wild place and the "Manosphere" like within the last month. Let me get this straight... You found the manosphere in the past month and decide to come to a debate sub where people argue with eachother all day long about manosphere ideas and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 06:26 PM
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We're all saying the same thing in different words lol nothing you quoted conflicts with eachother. Maybe it's not specific enough for your liking but that's your problem, not OP's. You boys are so silly. Yes, we are silly. Wouldn't you agree silliness is a good trait for a guy to have? What is game to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 06:18 PM
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There's not 10 different definitions of it here, each comment giving a definition is essentially saying the same thing with a slightly different individual spin on it. Where are the widely differing definitions? Wouldn't you agree a guy needs an innate ability to verbally interact with a woman to open her up to romantic and sexual encounters?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 05:49 PM
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Bloops get all bent out of shape about "fogging" too yet never read the book it came from and realized the book was a general assertiveness self-help text written in the 70s with women as a major target of the book. "rah rah maipulative whatevers like fogging or negging reeeee" gtfo with that nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 05:09 PM
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Game is a guy's ability to attract and retain a female's interest in a romantic or sexual manner. Said another way, the ability to flirt and escalate. Idk why people get their panties in a bunch about negging either, it's just playful teasing. Done properly it invokes the open mouth, smile yet faux-shock OMG look and the conversation continues at another level. It's beautiful when done properly...a playful tease.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 05:02 PM
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Women. Do. Not. Care. About. Just. Getting. Laid. lol not according to my ex wife and her friends
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 04:49 PM
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They work hard and the food is pretty good. I fail to see the problem here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 08:25 PM
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you might not be aware of this but eastern euros aren't actually white Where can I claim my oppressed minority Slav status?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 08:24 PM
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Stop talking about fight club.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/11/18 04:47 PM
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lol its a bot
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 04:14 PM
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I don't get why this would be just a woman with sex thing I suppose. Are women not the gatekeepers of sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 04:11 PM
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I don’t see how a reward the other way has an impact on women rewarding men with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 03:06 AM
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Women have discovered and perfected the craft of monetizing their sexuality with incrementally less and less effort and exposure. Porn star became the solo cam girl became the insta thot became the tinder venmo girl. Each next level of monetization took less overall effort and risk to achieve. Why be a full on porn star when you can take ass pix for insta and sell your onlyfans subscription? Why take naughty pix at all when you can monetize a dating site with a mild selfie? Fuck it, let the chip…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 08:34 PM
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You say that like it's a bad thing Men being more like women ensures they will be less successful with women. That is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 08:07 PM
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it's just not exclusive to women As an absolute, no. As a matter of degree... Do you think women are--on average--more choosy about who they will have sex with than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 07:57 PM
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Said differently, men need to meet or exceed a threshold of attractiveness in both looks and behavior in order for the woman to want to engage sexually. If he's below her threshold, she won't. It's all positive or negative reinforcement for sexually desirable traits at the end of the day: Positive = rawr lets bang daddy Negative = get away from me loser ew gross! Do you agree with the premise and that women have a responsibility in creating this dynamic? Does it matter? All the stuff like "eggs …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 07:53 PM
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I have to turn my boyfriend on before he'll want to have sex sometimes, too. Yet he has traits and behaviors that are sexually attractive to you in order for you to want to have sex with him in the first place. His attractiveness exceeds your threshold and thus you "reward" him with sex, regardless of any one interaction or arousal in the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 07:43 PM
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They generously gave themselves lavish pensions and healthcare plans and you name it. And then millennials look at that, and despise them for it... despite literally wanting to do the same fucking thing. We despise it because WE'RE PAYING FOR IT. Boomers kicked the financial liability can down the road to the next generation and then come with their hands out arrogantly demanding what's their owed, then turn around and lecture my/our generation about how we're the selfish, entitled ones. Oddly, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 06:44 PM
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Boo hoo. Adapt or die. I've watched Boomer and older GenX managers lament and cry over how those pesky, entitled Millennials "don't do it like we did" and the business suffers because THEY themselves can't adapt to a changing workforce that is different. You can't expect the world to be easy and coast on it and never have to have strife - THAT'S the lesson we should be taking from the Boomers As if Boomers had it hard at all. College costing a few grand a year and houses not much more and a peri…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 06:38 PM
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Women get killed or raped every day in middle east or asia Oh please, manspreading got more press in the west than Saudi women FINALLY getting the right to drive a car. And let's not forget which spectrum of political thought welcomes with open arms into their nations those same people who so oppress their women back in their home countries, and then makes excuses for them to not assimilate to western values.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 06:17 PM
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/30/men-respect-women-parents-patriarchy-boys
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 06:15 PM
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Rewires the reward centers of the brain in a still developing child. So yes, porn seriously fucking up kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 06:13 PM
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Men aren't desperate for sex when they can get it. Men who don't get sex are desparate for sex; inclusive of incels through deadbedroomed husbands. Lack of sexual options indicates something is very wrong with a dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 04:37 PM
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I don’t understand what looks have to do with a faulty mental framework.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 02:30 PM
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Is motherhood a social gender role? Are women not nurturing by design?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 02:30 PM
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Idk, every other species on planet earth manages to figure it out just fine to perpetuate themselves and survive. Only humans have this "oh no its all socialization" nonsense, conveniently ignoring the actual science of biology and evolution. Do biology and thus evolution drive gender roles, yes or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 09:53 PM
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I also talk to her A lot. About how I feel There's a fine line between being open and honest with your partner and emoting like a woman, and I do believe there's a time component to that which you pick up on. You realize it's fresh now, but when familiarity settles in talking about your feelz will be nothing more than you emoting like a woman. If she wanted to date a woman, she'd date a woman. Are you a woman? I probably talk too much. I need to talk less. Right answer. Don't become a mute, obvi…
/r/askMRP13/11/18 08:29 PM
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Overarching rule: Insecurity in a woman = meh. Insecurity in a guy = death. Is it a womans insecurity that attracts you or something else. Would you class these women as insecure? Insecurity is masked until it isn't, and insecure women in particular do a good job of hiding it upfront. If she's hot enough and the guy is into her, he'll ignore the insecurity also and probably just deal with/ignore it over time. For me- PreRP: insecurity in a girl didn't matter. PostRP: avoiding it as much as possi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 08:09 PM
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Can I be transracial, similar to Rachel Dolezal? Race is a social construct and has no basis in science, I can identify as a race other than one assigned by society, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 07:00 PM
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If one believes women have largely consistent attraction triggers and have a baseline of core behaviors then you can apply TRP to most women. Those of us who buy into TRP see consistent behaviors in a lot of women we deal with up to and including family, co-workers, friends, etc. Individual women are not each some unique puzzle you have to solve before you can effectively deal with them; there's plenty of womanly behavior within them all to be pretty damn close with the same set of tools.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 06:39 PM
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That's like asking why BP folks come here to debate people who aren't going to change their minds. That's the even bigger ask: why do you feel so compelled to go tell someone they're wrong? We like to argue with strangers on the internet. It's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 06:05 PM
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Yea its easy to get the girl if one is good looking and has at least some game but the self sabotage begins soon after.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 04:51 PM
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Untrue. Good looking guys can be the biggest Nice Guys around.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 03:38 PM
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Despite my looking and acting like a biological male, I am a woman. You will not tell me otherwise because it is scientific fact I am a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 03:36 PM
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I identify as a woman today despite my penis, testicles, facial hair, and shoulder width. My gender is woman and you can't tell me I'm not because you're a bigot. There's your science for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 03:21 PM
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See the book No More Mr. Nice Guy. Be raised by mostly women (mom, grandma, aunts) and have a weak or nonexistent father. Spend the majority of your time with said women. Do everything right in childhood- be a good helper, behave well, be nice to people, do good in school, get good grades...overall be the "good kid" and have that behavior constantly reinforced by women (mom/family, lady teachers, etc) have the same women tell you you're going to "make a good husband someday!" and "You're a good …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 03:18 PM
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sex vs gender erasure This is based on facts. LOL. Well trolled.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 02:52 PM
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Getting what you want out of another person requires a scalpel and a delicate touch, trp is a baseball bat wielded by a gorilla I guess if you believe that then I'm certainly not going to change your mind; I think you're discounting gorillas' fine motor skills, though. For those of us here who went down that path we tend to find there's plenty of finesse to the whole process.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 02:48 PM
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That's what trp should teach RP definitely teaches "watch what she does, not what she says" since women can talk the good talk indefinitely but can't mask behavior for too long, and the latter informs her true intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 02:17 PM
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https://www.google.com/search?q=deciding+where+to+eat+meme&safe=active&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS768US768&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjB_aOW0M_eAhUMmeAKHakgB3sQ_AUIEygB&biw=1600&bih=754#imgrc=swj4s8e2rFIhXM: Do you think the prevalence of these memes about women being indecisive are just fabricated with no basis in reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 07:55 PM
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n = 1 = you, therefore it doesn't apply to anyone. It's just all the birdman's problem, despite my n >1 and consistent with a LOT of men I've seen here on reddit and especially IRL. Do you think the popular memes about women being indecisive are just flat out wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 07:40 PM
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Why do you think the memes about asking a woman "What do you want for dinner?" exist? Most women I've known in my adult life from women I've dated to my ex wife to the women in the office all have this odd indecision to them I've never been able to fully understand...until recently. A coworker and I are going to go to lunch...she'll waffle on the decision until I make it and just declare where. My ex wife couldn't make up her mind after being asked what she wanted for dinner, yet cooed like a ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 07:24 PM
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From the couples I know that have more than 2 kids the 3rd+ is ENTIRELY from the woman's want for another one and they all admit it openly. "Husband was done after the 2nd but I wanted another..." My hypothesis is the marriage was half deadbedroomed already from work/life/kid stressed and the dude was thrilled to have his wife want to bang again so he went along with it...then #3 shows up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 07:05 PM
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Was it a onesie? I have no qualms going into the women's bathroom if it's a onesie if the men's is taken. Fuck that, there's no reason for a pair of onesies to be segregated to mens/womens.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 06:53 PM
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Yet in some places a man can identify as a woman and use the women's room and if someone complains they're a bigot and transphobic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 06:50 PM
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uses RP dogwhistles Which are?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 06:14 PM
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How do you even have a dead bedroom? This doesn't even make any sense. You want to bang your wife you grab her and bang her. What's the problem? Um, consent applies to married women too, ya know... Are we now pretending women don't have the ability to say "no" to unwanted sexual advances?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 03:49 PM
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What was hostile about my OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 11:04 PM
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Women try to tame the wild frat boy, not wait for him to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 08:11 PM
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lol I'll save that one for another time CMV: Postmenopausal women are the biggest freaks
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 08:10 PM
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What’s so enjoyable about youth? Beauty and fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 08:08 PM
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Right, and those women can exist without the framework I outlined.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 08:06 PM
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My ex wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 08:05 PM
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I don't know anyone who takes shit like this to heart Her book was a NYT and Amazon best seller, not to mention the hype and media surrounding the book. She, her book, and the messages therein are viewed as empowering and an example to women. YOU may not know anybody that takes it to heart but searching her or Lean In will give you plenty of commentary on the message, most of which is positive. If her and her message didn't have credibility in the eyes of the media and society at large, it would…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 08:04 PM
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I acknowledge your strong opinions of surgeons.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 07:57 PM
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You could just as easily ask why women should settle for men before those men are actually attractive. I could, but I don't believe that so it's not worth me asking. It's a silly question. this assumption that women have the most and best choices at 18 vs like, 25-30 and I'm not entirely convinced of this. It's probably peak at 24-26...few years out of college, established, independent but still vibrant and good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 07:54 PM
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So women should date some guy she is not interested in for his "potential" apparently. Not what I said. I asked why a guy should wait for those women, not why women should date them earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 07:44 PM
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Her husband will be the newest subscriber to TRP before long.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 07:41 PM
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Interesting... We want to settle a wild man Right, which is why that trope exists for women to tame a man. I don't necessarily think men want to wrangle a wild woman into submission. Either men want a virginal angel or an equally wild woman to match themselves, not the opposite of the wild man concept. The asymmetry of these experiences ain't our problem It's not asymmetry of experiences, it's the AF/BB I'm going to settle for the boring guy who will be a good daddy once i'm done partying and gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 07:40 PM
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He should. Nobody said he must.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 07:33 PM
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That's unnecessarily hostile, I don't appreciate you saying i'm being dishonest. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/9vkrf7/having_higher_standards_as_you_get_older_isnt_a/e9dbnzf/ why "should" he? well, they're probably better matched now. he was obviously not good enough when she was hotter? i see nothing wrong with that. If you interpret that differently then fine, make your argument. Don't call me dishonest for my interpretation of what she said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 07:10 PM
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he "framework" almost always involves some set of facts that just aren't very realistic of what happens IRL. I can make an argument that happened to me: Hot party girl finds the well established, stable (read: boring) guy as she works through her late 20's and settles for that guy...and things don't work out very well. Do you think the framework holds in modern society? Why else would Sheryl Sandberg endorse something pretty damn close to it and be hailed as a the best advice for career women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 07:06 PM
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It's the underlying assumption. Read the other thread and you'll see women argue that dynamic is perfectly acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 06:59 PM
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Are you arguing batshit crazy, slashing tires, and throwing tantrums when they don't get their way is normal, acceptable behavior for young, 20something women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 06:58 PM
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Both of your answers assume women who don't follow this model aren't wife material.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 06:51 PM
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He "shouldn't" - he "should" do whatever he wants. Then why are women arguing in the other thread that he should? Although the idea that there is some proliferation of men who literally were rejected by some party/casual sex-having woman then I guess waits around and suddenly she wants him at 30 is overblown. It's the framework, not a literal interpretation of events.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 06:50 PM
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hey do not blow their rent money on going out. They do not text you 500 times if you haven't replied in an hour. If you mention your ex, they will not start plotting to slash her tires. If you want to have a chill night in instead of going out somewhere fancy, they do not whine and freak out If a woman acted like this in her younger years no man should touch her with a 10 foot pole and he should run in the opposite direction as fast as he can. I was referring to a woman calming and settling down…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 06:48 PM
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Why don't you ask the red guys here how it worked for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 06:38 PM
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I don't need to be a guy to see how this stuff is affecting men and how that impacts my perception of those men Right, it can impact YOUR perception of those men but you have no clue what it's like as a 27 yo married female to be a guy who is either 1. rejected by women 2. striking out on finding an LTR or 3. in a LTR/marriage and not respected nor desired by your SO. You have zero idea what it's like to be a sexual failure as a man and need to find a way to fix a uniquely male problem. Many men…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 06:37 PM
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Why did you downvote that? What does she bring to the table that matches his increased value?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 06:02 PM
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he was obviously not good enough when she was hotter? "Oh hey guy, you're not good enough for me now as I'm young and smoking hot and fun, but maybe you'll be good enough for me in a few years so just wait around until I decide when you're worth it, k? Go advance your career and buy a house and make more money and when you do that I'll decide if it's good enough, k? I promise I'll get all this partying and crazy wild behavior out of my system now and one my biological clock starts ticking at 30 …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 05:41 PM
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Some men have difficulty with women and fail to find any compelling advice, or they find "mainstream" advice that does not lead to success. Some of those men stumble upon the Red Pill and other such things which provide a framework for understanding why they failed with women and reflects their experience with women, and thus become followers. No guy who is awesome with women or has a great sex life with his wife finds the red pill, it's those of us who fail. As a married 27 year old female Of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 05:17 PM
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Just wait until she's north of 31 and it will get even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 05:14 PM
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Smart, funny, super fit, quirky but not weird and he has to very attentive lol. I would say we have the same friend but the one I know is overweight, not attractive, and a complete cunt and declares she wants all of the above constantly. She cycles through guys she dates and then wonders why. How old is your friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 05:09 PM
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If a guy is into a girl in her mid 20s and she doesn't give him the time of day, why should he accept her at 30 when she mysteriously decides she wants him as a result of her "change"? Why is it assumed that same guy should be willing to wait around?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 05:05 PM
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Lots of posts on here describing how bf/husband finds out threw a friend, ex or straight from the horse's mouth sometimes indirectly well off into the relationship. This shit happens more than you think. I really don't understand how people here don't think someone's SO can't piece shit together over time as information trickles out. There's an odd resistance to this concept which is applicable to anyone learning things about someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 05:02 PM
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Things may not be 100% accurate but wouldn't you agree someone can piece things together to a reasonable degree? Otherwise, it sounds like you wouldn't believe me if I told you this was exactly how I found out about my ex wife's past, which was interesting to say the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 04:58 PM
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What does traveling have to do with listening to your SO talk to their friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 04:39 PM
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You don't believe listening to friends discussing things between themselves can inform how someone spent their past?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 04:39 PM
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It trickles out. Alcohol plus some of her friends and you start to piece it all together without even provoking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 03:30 PM
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he has found a "Real Woman". To me, a woman who doesn't want some expensive lifestyle and shiny things as a requirement in a relationship is a much higher quality woman than one who does. Equating it with her best in intimacy and trust is a bit of a stretch, but if that's what the woman wants, so be it. She just needs to find someone to provide that for her and not demand it from a guy who made it clear he won't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 03:29 PM
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I didn't say "you" believe it given your use of "we". People in modern western society believe it. Academics believe it. You're trying to argue it's just a "strawman" to use that, which is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 07:34 PM
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Are you sure? Considering the popular acceptance of "gender identification" alone as the standard for being "trans" and the whole "more than two genders" movement: Pick your designated pronoun at Michigan: https://spectrumcenter.umich.edu/article/designated-pronouns-university-michigan NPR's Radiolab (bastion of hate and transphobia) has genderswitching guest, finds the episode offensive: https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/trans-woman-pushes-npr-edit-offensive-podcast-about-her220115/#gs.TeUkgS…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 07:03 PM
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Which transgender are we talking about? Traditional MtF/FtM folks. Or... The entire "there's 78 genders my pronouns are xe/zim/hir I identify as a fluid demisexual transracial muslim atheist foxkin lesbian DON'T ASSUME MY GENDER YOU TRANSPHOBIC BIGOT FACIST!" along with the folks who wake up one day a man, change their identifying gender at noon, then back after lunch, then use both bathrooms when they see fit. One presumes TRP wouldn't necessarily dismiss #1, yet #2 seems to be the loudest ones…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 05:58 PM
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Maybe that kind of transparency is rarer than I thought. Think about it, how many parents are actually open and honest with their kids about the harsh realities of life, less their own fuckups or histories? Something I hear a lot is parents trying to "protect" their kids...it's instinctual to protect your kids IMO, it's the degree that matters here. Layer in any measure of religious upbringing or repressive cultural norms in a society and you have all you need to know about how open or not paren…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 05:14 PM
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You had to figure out logically how to "be a man" which easily allowed you to pick/choose/test/experiment with traits and behaviors via observation and deliberate changes in behavior in order to get yourself to a point where you were comfortable and can function in the world. Likewise, if I were to become a woman and had to learn how to woman I could probably optimize my womanness via the same process you had, and likely have incrementally better outcomes with my femininity than a large number o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 03:08 PM
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How long after childhood should a person be expected to blindly ignore all evidence they see around them that the world is darker than a Disney cartoon before they could be considered stunted? It's easier to believe in the hope that things can exist in some happy ideal than to accept the world is a cold, dark place. This day in age if humanity didn't have that glimmer of hope NOBODY would have children. I've never seen anything much about RP that was particularly new or innovative. Correct. What…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 02:58 PM
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Fine, nitpick something I provide you that is easily searchable on your own. Your personal opinion of poorly researched labor market dynamics does not invalidate my original claim of a severe labor shortage in the trades that is widely known.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 06:25 PM
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I'm going to assume you're able to use the google and find them yourself, since asking me to supply you with a easily searchable job listing is silly. https://www.indeed.com/q-Electrician-Apprentice-jobs.html?from=relatedQueries&saIdx=3&rqf=1&parentQnorm=Electrician&vjk=dea5601388880727 There. That took 30 seconds. I don't know where you live but you and your friends shouldn't have a hard time finding a decent entry level labor job if you actually looked. It's not claims on the internet, it's cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 02:42 PM
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You don't get it. At all. 13 alleged months and you're acting like this? Translation: *I'm red pilled why doesn't this bitch want to fuck me I'm so alpha FMOFY you stupid cunt REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" (for 45 minutes) You had a broken covert contract, built up resentment total meltdown. If you've been reading the sidebar as you allege, you would have found these exact concepts and your exact template of behavior in NMMNG. Nice Guy Rage, you're familiar with it because you mention it a few times in a …
/r/askMRP06/11/18 02:30 PM
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people say "oh we need immigrants because white people won't pick fruit or scrub toilets" - incorrect. white people won't pick fruit or scrub toilets for less than minimum wage. but immigrants will. White people don't want to be electricians or plumbers for $50+/hour and no student loan debt after a few years of apprenticeship straight out of high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/18 10:35 PM
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Skilled trades for one. There's going to be a demographic disaster as the average age of any random tradesman is currently north of 50 and once the older ones start cycling out of the workforce over the next 10-20 years. Shortages galore, young people refuse to get into the trades as a whole despite demand. I had a construction company owner lament how young people would rather work for minimum wage in retail or food service instead of for him at $25+ an hour as basic unskilled labor as summer j…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/18 10:28 PM
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Solid work. What were your wife's ongoing reactions once you turned the corner and started improving? Specifically: shit tests, a "main event" meltdown, etc?
/r/TheRedPill05/11/18 02:06 PM
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This is absolutely on point for what happened to me in my marriage: (ex)Wife took a promotion and had a new circle of high-flying and largely single co-workers...she saw me as the lesser option for her time and attention and behaved in that manner. The only time I was useful was when things weren't going well for her somewhere else and she'd suddenly look for comfort and time from me. The pattern still plays out now, I get texts whenever she's not loving her life about how much she misses me, an…
/r/TheRedPill26/10/18 03:53 PM
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2/10 didn’t mention his waifu sex doll. Sad!
/r/MarriedRedPill24/10/18 09:59 PM
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Did you listen to him on Rogan explaining why his use of the term was misguided re: incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 07:47 PM
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There's nothing that says an traditional gender role assignment =/= egalitarian, you're acting as if the former is some manner of grand oppressive scheme that can never work to anyone's satisfaction or be fundamentally lopsided. There are plenty of modern day marriages that are miserable and fail with great frequency, many of them could be described as so-called "egalitarian", or "progressive", or even "feminist". Furthermore, egalitarian is another buzzword that is used so differently depending…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 05:09 PM
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men and women are not different animals.. we are the same Wrong. To assert otherwise denies biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 03:51 PM
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lots of people just think they're Mexican including actual mexicans lol. Silicon Valley covered this nicely https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSzmVFF58Mo
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 03:09 PM
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So every couple who knew their roles without question are miserable and hate eachother?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 03:05 PM
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How many women will happily "date down" the SES spectrum? Red Pill "hypergamy" aside the social science hypergamy has been studied and women largely date/mate across and up, not down. This isn't controversial. On top of that, take other roles: are women happier leading the family? The SAHD situation was already covered, but how many women would be happy letting the father be the primary caretaker of the children? Ask the married guys here how well it worked for them to let their wife be the prim…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 03:01 PM
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We can no longer fall back on the traditional roles. You can if and only if you find a partner who shares your traditional roles/worldview prior to LTRing, further vetted by upbringing, etc. If one wants a traditional marriage, one is likely to find it with someone raised in a traditional environment, likely religious, and with tradconnish values to begin with. This is distinct from the "we want the same things out of life!" trope which informs endpoints but not structure. And I don't care what …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:51 PM
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That's quite a stretch from OP's point...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:32 PM
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Wow everyone with their amazing personality? Well yea, that can arguably be easier than becoming super duper wealthy unless there's some underlying mental condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:01 PM
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There's generally subtext to everything anyone says; I do believe as does RP that women are much better than this than men. Ever listen to a bunch of women talk about something and you're convinced there's a hell of a lot more going on than the words being spoken? That's that type of shit. Men are horrible at picking up on this. This all happened to me in my marriage and it took a while to figure out wtf she was actually communicating. All those tropes about men never saying the right thing, "If…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 05:52 PM
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The shortage of blue collar skilled labor has wages through the roof for those types; the average age of skilled construction labor is absurdly high, in the 40s or 50s or something. Trade schools, etc can't pump enough of these types out to satisfy demand thus $$$$$$$$$$$$$ WSJ had an article a few years ago about welders in the Baaken making easy 6 figs upwards of $150K. Prevailing wage skilled trades in NY Metro make upwards of $90/hour and the lack of new entrants into the trades across the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 03:27 PM
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Lots of quality comments from you lately. I view it as shitposting most of the time but sure thanks lol Why do you think women have such a strong in-group bias while men lack it? In our modern realm: politicization 100%. Literally, "feminism" has the FEMin-, short for FEMinine in the actual fucking word, and while we quibble about Muh Feminism! here and elsewhere nobody can deny it is absolutely about advancing a woman-centric set of interests. Women's March, Women's Studies, whatever. Sisterhoo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 03:08 PM
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Q4All: Why does the narrative exist (that we shouldn't judge past actions)? Are we entitled to make judgments or are we entitled to be free from judgement? While we love kicking around some iteration of this concept here it really is irreconcilable at its core. Humans judge every little thing thus "free from judgement" is quite silly; its a matter of degree of judgment. People who say "I don't judge" are liars at their core, what they mean is "I judge you to such a small degree it's minimally me…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 02:40 PM
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Women complain about unsolicited male attention until they no longer get any, then they complain about not getting any unsolicited male attention. https://goo.gl/images/2aVUDX
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 05:45 PM
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Since when is Piers Morgan a shining beacon of masculinity? Craig should have carried the child like a running back carries a football. That would have been more masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 05:38 PM
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The comedian Theo Von had a prostitute on his podcast a while back and it was fascinating to say the least. Related to this article, she spoke about how sugaring is a bad deal for women, she wouldn't advise any girl to do it, and they should just become straight up prostitutes instead. Worth a listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 03:22 PM
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This entire thing starts as a train wreck: Her degree in art history and fine arts from Eastern Connecticut State University wasn’t helping her land any job worth sticking around for. This girl went out of her way to set herself up for failure: a shitty, useless degree from a state school barely above the local community colleges. She's not smart despite her upbringing in a ritzy coastal community. Had it been Art History from UCONN or any other decent school with a decent fine arts program it c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 03:17 PM
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Considering your broad judgement of "all men", one presumes you're so much better than the rest of those "all men" you describe given your ability to pass judgement. You indeed hold much more virtue than every other man, or else you wouldn't be able to write this as you did. So within your horrifically overblown self righteousness that allows you to write this nonsense, you're exactly what you describe. You're the best male. Congratulations.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 01:32 PM
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This is SRU volume screed with much more self righteousness. Unsure which is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 01:18 PM
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tldr Society needs to change for a small subset of men so they can get laid because they think they're better than everyone else and refuse to change themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 03:21 PM
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Consider this: do you want to build your life with a woman who acts this way? From what I can tell you’re not married and this is your first LTR; guess what: quality women don’t act like this. You had better think long and hard about why you’re with her if she blatantly disrespects you in this manner. Add to it you say this guy is her superior at work...how appropriate is it to get high in his hotel room on a trip professionally and what does it say about your SO personally if she’ll entertain i…
/r/askMRP12/10/18 03:44 AM
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but regardless, he's just a friend. ORLY?????
/r/askMRP12/10/18 03:16 AM
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Because Slate is the authority on how humans actually use words in casual settings. Every single female I've ever heard talk about "dad bod" refers to it as slightly chubby and out of shape with a noticeable belly, stopping short of grossly overweight, not "muscular with BF% of 15% just short of abs" as you're trying to idiotically argue. Consider Urban Dictionary, which the top definition is what every god damn person here is trying to tell you as how people use Dad Bod IRL yet you're too arrog…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 04:33 PM
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be myself That doesn't work for lots of dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 04:10 PM
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Yet being fit will get better results on average than simply being a fatass. That's an easy "box" to build and one most people would agree with, even if some women are chubby chasers. Same as having good social skills/game/etc vs. being socially awkward. Broad brush statements that can maximize relative success even if some girls really like autistic weirdos. Dressing & grooming well vs. looking homeless. Having a skill & gainful employment vs. basement dwelling at your parents house playing vid…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 04:10 PM
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Who has a better chance of dating success: A guy who lifts, puts on some muscle, and has a reasonably attractive physique or some average, overweight lardass who puts in no effort? Take it a step further: A fat, tall guy who is socially awkward or a shorter, muscular dude who is charismatic? Furthermore, in a room full of average, overweight men who do you think stands out? The muscular, fit guy. This is not a difficult concept. The recommendations put forth are for developing traits to maximize…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 03:53 PM
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You sound like the type to track “value” on a spreadsheet and update it regularly...or you’re a troll. Unsure which. How about you continue moving forward with your plans and stop worrying about whether each next thing you do increases or decreases value incrementally? Sidebar, lift, mission. Quit the oneitis while you’re at it. If she leaves, she leaves, you can’t control her. BTW if your career was the main draw to her maybe you need to rethink why she’s with you to begin with.
/r/askMRP10/10/18 08:31 PM
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This reads as another "women are too emotionally stupid and weak to realize the big mean red pill man is manipulating them" posts. When are we going to give women agency for their actions and decisions, instead of constantly labeling them as perpetual, helpless victims that can't possibly resist the words and actions of men? Talk about dehumanization; this post couldn't paint women as anymore infantile if it tried. But continued use of TRP strategy can only lead to a future filled with ostracism…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 02:00 PM
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Interesting. I see where you're coming from. he is inclined to be empathetic and authentic, which I love, but don't exactly give me "tingles" so to speak. I don't need "tingles" constantly in my relationship either just would be nice to have those once in awhile. I'm unsure of your opinion on MRP but some of the prescriptive stuff there would be appropriate for him. Something like Married Man Sex Life Primer and/or Book of Pook would be useful for him in setting mindsets around attraction, tingl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 08:14 PM
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I agree with you to a degree, but I don't totally buy that's the case for OP. I don't think there's an appreciation for the male experience of being that "nice stable guy" after a girl magically "decides" to "settle down" after partying in her 20s either. OP is getting hella pushback from red dudes because many of us have been there and it's not a good place to be if you're THAT guy. We've been that guy. Focusing on her verbiage alone she's making abundantly clear her LTR is nowhere near as fun,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 07:52 PM
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Disagree, RP stereotypes and AWALTy women are jam packed in the northeast, especially in the cities. All the memes about strong independent woman don't need no man and caREEEEEEr women and confused feminists and where have all the good men gone all that hold absolutely true in blue states, especially amongst the self appointed intelligentsia of NYC where some half broke, Brooklyn dwelling pseudo-journalist will pen the next Smoogs sourced article. RP holds true with this bunch considering the co…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 07:26 PM
1

Yes, just to troll you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 07:02 PM
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What's Ne Dom? missing the feeling - not the experience I get that, which is why my belief is that a man needs to actively work to keep that feeling alive at some level which can only benefit both parties in the relationship. That said, there's a difference between wanting that feeling back and acting out on it and there's a subset of women who crave the experience itself...OP being one of them I'd suspect. They miss the party, the attention, getting hit on, getting propositioned, all that...the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 05:04 PM
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Why do terps need women to get less sex than them? Nobody here said that. It has no impact on your life. And what men think about x, y, and z has nothing to do with YOUR life, so why are you here arguing about our motivations to debate an obscure, silly topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 04:48 PM
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There’s only so much one can take at 11PM est
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 03:39 PM
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Why are you getting angry? Why do you care what other people are doing. Um, we're on a debate sub literally debating what other people are doing. Do we not debate to death here it is 1. objectively harder for men to get casual sex than women and 2. there's a good possibility the top tier of men have most of the casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 03:09 PM
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Don't worry, Lewis, she's "putting in the effort" too. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/9mos1l/cmv_theres_nothing_wrong_with_riding_the_cock/e7g9dda/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 03:04 PM
5

Are you still averse to paying for a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 03:01 PM
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I've become very suspicious whenever a girl describes her SO as "stable", especially in the absence of other positive descriptors.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 02:55 PM
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Your post is irrationally butthurt because you're assuming attraction preferences between men are women are fundamentally the same, thus your ability to say things like: a man being frustrated that women have higher standards than them Which is demonstrably false because of the simple fact men and women have differing preferences to begin with per the OP and easily observed by anyone who watches men and women mate in the wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 02:48 PM
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Are we really pretending it's just as easy for dudes to get casual sex as it is for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 02:38 PM
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Standby for 12 paragraphs overanalyzing the topic...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 02:23 PM
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You did God's work in that other thread, to no avail unfortunately. This has been simple to me: The dude should always grab the check the first few dates. Period. but I feel like there should be a polite little back and forth over the check, it’s part of the flirting, the banter, it’s a way to feel out how the other person thinks the evening is going. 100%. If the girl wants to protest and pay, or pay half, have a fun flirty conversation briefly then settle the check to your liking. Simple, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 02:21 PM
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Using your own words: a lot of hot guys who weren't relationship material nice stable guy You don't see the dichotomy there, nor how we can assume you're playing on different terms? doesn't mean I'm not putting in effort right now. Are you doing the same things with your LTR with as much or more enthusiasm as you did them with your hookups?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 02:13 PM
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Is your new fun giving you the same exhilarating experience of steamy, intense sex with a hot guy? The thrill of knowing you're fucking a "bad boy"? Probably not. You'll get bored, you won't be able to recreate the intensity and hotness with your "stable" guy and you'll come to miss it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 02:05 PM
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You're looking at it from a female perspective not a male one. Your LTR may very well be expecting you to give him your best sexually, after all he commits to you and gives you the stability you're looking for, while presumably being monogamous and foregoing all other women. If you're not giving him your best sexuality and you've given it to others in your past, then you're setting yourself up for him to resent the shit out of you for it. After all, wouldn't you give the best sex to the guy you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 01:55 PM
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This post is AF/BB confirmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 01:43 PM
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Since things have worked out for you and your friends it's hard to dispute your outcome, but I'll try to C your V: You're going to get bored. All the fun you had with your hot guys you won't have with your current stable LTR because his stability is inherently boring, and this is from your own words: fun & hot vs. stable. The thrill of the hookups, presumably the party lifestyle, the thrill of the chase to get some hot guy to fuck you, those bad boys who aren't relationship material, knowing its…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 01:33 PM
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You do realize everyone other than you lives by a general set of social norms, and there's a good amount of friction you avoid by actually conforming to some of those societal standards, right? Interpersonal friction is unattractive, especially when forced by an individual because of their own personal hangups and strangely inflexible beliefs, wouldn't you agree? And wouldn't you also agree someone having little success with women should be removing needless barriers and friction in their intera…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 03:04 AM
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If society is so far off from your own moral & ethical center i.e.: traditional gender roles continue into the modern age in spite of egalitarianism which make it difficult for guys to date women without picking up the tab then why not do more to conform? Pick up the tab, perhaps?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 07:14 PM
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Wrong question. Would that chick date him? That's the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 06:01 PM
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Same as a LOT of lovey dovey "you're the best thing ever!" my ex wife said to me. That pesky "light switch effect" held true with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 05:20 PM
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Did you ever consider stopping being nice to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 05:01 PM
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Seriously, what the fuck is with all of these Nice GuysTM, and why don't I ever hear about Sexually / Romantically Unsuccessful (SRU) men with similar stories as me? They're one in the same: Nice GuysTM = SRU's. and/or SRU's = Incels Despite your attempts at trying to make another category of men "SRUGMs" trying to delineate away from incels = angry internet trolls, you can't. If you're involuntarily celibate, you're an incel regardless of your self assigned moral virtue. The fact you "don't eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 03:33 PM
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I'm a woman who would really like to learn about Incels wtf is wrong with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 02:26 PM
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The rednecks with all the guns obv. Why else do feminists and their cuck low T soyboy white knight orbiters want gun control?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 07:09 PM
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ell people should care because the issues of sexual / romantic isolation could mean that intelligent, analytical, good men with other positive traits could struggle and fall behind in dating while anti-social dark triad personality traits could end up being passed on to the next generation. hey would see that the issues I'm talking about extend beyond my own personal problems. Right, hence my comment about the hopelessness of a societal underclass of incelish dudes being meaningless in the grand…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 06:03 PM
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6.5/10 troll job this time. Better.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 02:49 PM
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I can't confirm this entirely but I'm confident most people here subscribe to the "Idiocracy" theory of the future gene pool. Idiots outreproduce halfway smart people by magnitudes. This is a global phenomenon: 3rd world shitholes with backwards shithole, half inbred, goat fucking societies outreproduce the largely secular West by magnitudes, so much so they ship their excess people to the West a la the migrant crisis North Africa-->Europe. Worrying about "society" is a fools errand, go get your…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 02:41 PM
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5/10 mediocre purge week troll job. The real test is what your posts look like after purge week is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 01:18 PM
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Constant calls you m’lady. Unsure if pro, con, or both.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 12:54 AM
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Am I right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 10:07 PM
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Dare I say, your assessment of and interaction with this very thread is indicative of your own autism...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 09:42 PM
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Both. Read SRU's latest actual autistic autism post and you'll see plenty of autism in the comments, myself included. It's like a quadriplegic in a wheelchair calling a guy on crutches with one leg a cripple. Half truth, half assed, easy insult whose connotation isn't actually that bad. Who other than autists would willingly engage in idiotic, pointless internet subcultures talking about obscure shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 09:33 PM
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Many of the people here are autistic to begin with so insulting eachother with autism isn't that big of a deal. r/wallstreetbets is the pinnacle of autism insults, not even close to this place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 09:15 PM
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Deadbeat Dads are a thing, bruh. Single mommies are worshipped, those men ain't shit. Man up and marry those sluts, regardless. How dare you judge a woman for her decisions, shitty and stupid as they may be?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 08:05 PM
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ill fitting polo T's. And stop wearing that shit to the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 05:47 PM
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The stereotype is right so often you can't possibly make it up. Antifa, the Buzzfeed testosterone guys, lefty journalists in general, campus SJWs, this motherfucker...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 05:46 PM
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Frankly, most of you are not psychologists and if you are, you shouldn't be diagnosing people online I have a friend who is an formally undiagnosed aspie and was diagnosed by me and a lesbian friend a decade ago and EVERYTHING made sense. Explained so much, dead on amateur diagnosis, and this was before autism was a big thing. He's on the spectrum and so are you, you're definitely on the spectrum. The fact you made this post is absolute proof of your autism. Who else but a true autist would writ…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 02:25 PM
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no, THIS is srs real talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mzBfu5HI-k
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 01:11 PM
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But you don't sound like a happy person at all That's solely because you guys misinterpret everything in the most negative way possible in order to fuel your delusions. You've wayyyyyyyyyy too invested in what random people on the internet think of other random people on the internet. Just sayin...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 12:32 PM
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And free hookers Could have started and ended there tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 09:01 PM
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Change some minor details and this is the same as my marriage: Girl who wasn't ready tried to talk herself into a settled down domestic lifestyle, then realizes how boring it is and you are and decides she wants her party life back. In my case we ended it without much drama, but guess who is texting me now "I miss you... I'm so lonely...ugh I hate my life...nobody will love me again". Both my ex wife and your soon to be ex wife (hint) don't miss you, they miss your stability. Mine was 20 months …
/r/askMRP03/10/18 02:37 PM
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An untrained dude following a barbell program for 6 months will make more progress than a chick doing the same program for 5 years. That said, I'm all about making women thiccer. Squat away, ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 01:34 PM
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Are fundamental skills that can lead to dominance, assertiveness, charisma and masculinity Nah bro, takes a hell of a lot more than having varied skillsets to cultivate dominance, assertiveness, charisma, and masculinity. Plenty of high achieving men are pussywhipped and scared of their women. Men otherwise dominant in the workplace absolutely passive and submissive at home. Dominance, masculinity, et al with women is a whole different ballgame.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 01:12 PM
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I love this bot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 12:54 PM
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rEd PiLl Is NoThInG nEw It Is AlL oBvIoUs EvErYbOdY kNoWs ThIs DuH (links to mens health article)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 12:45 PM
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That pic of the soyboy lol scrawny low T weak ass motherfucker. So progressive, much feminist. Wow. Why is it never some good looking jacked dude getting accused of shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 10:15 PM
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It’s Turd Flinging Monkey’s. The juice isn’t worth the squeeze, you know...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 09:49 PM
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I appreciate the precision in this comment
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 09:42 PM
1

Life is hard :(
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 09:41 PM
1

Yes. Yes you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 09:09 PM
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You win Peak Autism! Bravo! This exceeds even r/wallstreetbets! Congratulations on the enormity of your success!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 08:48 PM
1

facts
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 08:11 PM
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fat chicks don't count
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 03:03 PM
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That's the riddle SRU_91 is giving us. Choose wisely.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 01:10 PM
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But she's cute Must verify.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 12:31 PM
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WE GOTS TO KNOW
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 11:49 PM
6

Sounds like a particular set of skills
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 11:46 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 08:34 PM
1

ayyyyyyyyyyyyy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 07:42 PM
11

Agree & Amplify, go eat a pizza in front of the baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 07:38 PM
2

my first also, hitting refresh to see each next shitpost is exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 07:16 PM
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the incel, singular. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 07:05 PM
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Neither is mine, but i don't tell my boss that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 06:51 PM
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No better way to knock women's collective egos down a few notches than to unleash the trolls en masse. May actually make things better for the spergs in the middle TBH.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 06:39 PM
2

Call up Dominos and see if their pothole truck is still doing work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 06:36 PM
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It's dedication to wake up every single day, fire up the laptop, search for frustrated basic bitch UMC white woman navel gazing op-eds, post them here, then troll the shit out of people trying to argue there isn't a narrative coming out of the nation's prominent media sources. Keep on keeping on, Smoogs!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 06:35 PM
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His ability to find that garbage on the daily is hella impressive. NYT, WaPo, Guardian, obscure feminist blogs... I'm not even mad, that's amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 06:30 PM
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But they were referred to as omegas before anyway so they have nothing to lose. Why is the labeling so important to an individual's ability to self-start and succeed(or fail)? It's sounds like the participation trophy/self esteem/snowflake-ish spin on dating advice or whatever other purpose. Tone policing, essentially.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 02:58 PM
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In a red pill sense, all of the subcultures you mention have the same advice given to them; it's up to the individual to take the advice and put in the effort. There may be men too far gone for advice to work, but it's really hard to call "lift, maximize your attractiveness, fix your mental issues, learn game, get out there, challenge yourself, elevate your status, etc" as "worthless". Incels want to blame genetics for their failures and refuse to look beyond that, NiceGuys want to blame women f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 03:53 PM
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Going to nitpick: isolated SRUGMs have had their self-esteem destroyed and they now believe that they are the problem If they're isolated and unsuccessful with women, by definition they ARE the problem. a problem for the public image of the subreddit PPD is more obscure than any of the red pill subs to begin with, thus I doubt anyone gives a shit about a well moderated debate sub debating obscure gender dynamic topics regardless of who comes in.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 01:24 PM
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God forbid men get together to discuss their issues without the mandatory label of "pro-feminist", lest you be -ist or -phobic or whatever. Glad you had to have that seal of approval from women to exist; Real Men ask permission and say all the right things lest the ladies get mad...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 08:44 PM
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Attractive, yes, but very manufactured as one would expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 06:21 PM
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Seriously though. I was in Amsterdam wandering around the RLD and was struck by how apparently genuine the eye contact and expressions were of the working girls. I expected that retail-type fakery...oh no, these girls knew how to look directly at you and make you believe they wanted you. Remarkable, really, and quite the high level of skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 04:56 PM
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motorboating finger girls in the parking lot make out with chicks at the club. Mardi Gras beads whip cream on assholes Now, THAT'S a party, and the spoils go to the bold and the fun. The men in question are not fun, nor will they be until they extract the sticks from their asses and let loose in their venue of choice. No reason they can't fingerbang in the parking lot after book club if they have game.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 01:43 PM
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Wait 10-20 years and today's millennial will level up in that graph.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 01:26 PM
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If you just sacrifice for your partner and your family all will be well! Love is sacrifice, you know... Happy wife happy life! Treat her like a queen and she’ll love you. Those girls will grow up eventually and they’ll want a guy like you. Ugh I’m so tired of those jerks! Marriage is work! You have to give 100%! You’re great marriage material! (Read: betabux) Yea, none of that is true nor was there appropriate context for any of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 11:25 PM
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Briffault’s Law strikes again.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 11:16 PM
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You’re attached to a land whale beached on the couch, waiting on her hand and foot, while she bitches at you the entire time. She adds what value, exactly, to your life? Answer that and you’ll know the way forward.
/r/askMRP24/09/18 05:44 PM
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Specifically for someone of lower SMV: If someone wanted to run cycles of test or anabolics for gainz it can't hurt, same for uppers like an EC/A stack for fat loss. There's side effects and coming off them can be a bitch but if some skinnyfat kid wants to do it more power to him. Here's the problem- Upping one's SMV significantly requires a mental toughness and attitude you can't necessarily fake, along with often radical behavioral change to stop shitty behaviors and ingrain new, healthy habit…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 02:57 PM
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It's a safe assumption, is it not? Today's IPAs and avocado toast is tomorrow's something else and the same people will be following the herd right into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 11:44 PM
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It makes them boring since they're the same as every other person. No differentiation, no depth, nothing unique. If everyone likes the same shit (which changes over time as fads do), then by definition they can't think for themselves. Someone who goes out of their way to differentiate...now that's an interesting person, they're going to attract other interesting people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 11:32 PM
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Don't let the haters hold you down, I'm with you on this. A Basic Bitch offers nothing different than every other Basic Bitch who likes brunch and avocado toast. They're all the same and too lazy to differentiate themselves, if they can at all since they're pretty much cookie cutter from every millennial stereotype out there. And the dudes are just as bad; Basic Bros with their backwards caps and aviators and craft beer. All look the same, dress the same, do the same dumb sheeple shit just like …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 11:02 PM
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But they say nothing about the intelligence of people who do enjoy those activities. True, but to be fair to a tangent to OP's point, its basic. Every girl with some iteration of "music, friends, beer, parties!" reveals absolutely nothing unique nor make the girl stand out from any of the others. I'm sure they love brunch, avocado toast, and pumpkin spice lattes too. May as well say "I'm the stereotypical millennial basic bitch just like every other girl on this site and have nothing unique to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 10:54 PM
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No if you were right I'd tell you. Where did you get baseball? That's just bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 09:13 PM
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Question 1: Do you think the average man with these 4 categories along with an average face and personality is going to have much success with casual sex? dating? marriage? He'll have success if he's witty, funny, charming, etc. Personality matters. Consider also scumbags and fat yokels manage to shack up and get some girl to pop out his kids; I get most of our discussion is MC/UMC but there's fatasses, idiots, and broke dudes that manage to be "successful" in the SMP. Granted, not with women an…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 09:07 PM
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Not MGTOW. Idk where you got baseball. Not Italian ex wife. No daughter, but I would be proud of my little princess if I had one. Not bald from the back, nor black hair. Yes 6foot, no gut (13%bf...sorry). Not catholic nor any of the above, but A for effort. Kinda like Sherlock.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 08:29 PM
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My ethnicity, pls.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 07:54 PM
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I love how you're equating TRP posts on fitness and lifting with damage in childhood, as if fitness is something only fucked up people strive for. Better to be sedentary and fat, I suppose...that's healthy. Same with financial advice, as if encouraging men to be better with their money and pursue their careers is indicative of broken home. You still haven't guessed my ethnicity, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 07:35 PM
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I'm not fat, so....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 06:15 PM
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Should he have validated your attractiveness with desperation instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 06:14 PM
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Yes, we do. Because these things have been willfully denied to women. And the world is an unbalanced mess because of it. War, disease and hunger. Any and all professions where there is a disproportionate amount of men will inevitably have a "We need more women!" campaign, unless it's a low pay or low status job. Low pay/low status/dangerous jobs are excluded from calls for gender equality. Consider also there is no opposite to this in which female dominated professions actively campaign and recr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 06:08 PM
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Yea but standards rising by definition excludes men who don't meet those standards...80/20, "average men are below average", etc. I agree with your increased standards point, btw. Yet these women, thanks to the thirsty desperation of men, will always find someone to meet their lofty standards. If there's less men who meet those standards then many (most) women can't actually find the guy to meet those standards despite the number of available thirsty men, hence why your comment is odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 05:35 PM
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You're irrationally angry for someone who claims they're here for "a source of entertainment".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 05:12 PM
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Why do you think someone being desperate is supposed to validate our attractiveness? Please, women feed off of the the attention whoring they willingly do, especially on social media. Likes, hearts,comments...all of it. For as much as women will sneer at desperate men giving them attention they certainly won't opt out of it the attention seeking behavior. There's also plenty of fat--not thicc, not "curvy", FAT--women who go around thinking they're beautiful just the way they are with their doubl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 05:06 PM
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married the wrong woman for the wrong reasons As did I, and in my case finding this place and then breaking it off saved me a ton of time and effort trying to save something that should have never happened in the first place. Misery isn’t worth it.
/r/askMRP20/09/18 09:09 PM
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Too much y’all. to have someone offering you something when they're offering that same thing to everyone else Stop slut shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/18 03:59 AM
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Boyfriend. Incel. Refined Incel. Asshole. I took his virginity. Sweet, loving guy. he just gave me toxicity Is attractive, I think. socially inept very talented excelled in his career he knows he is attractive all fucked up alone and bitter There's a horrifying lack of consistency in this post, and both of you sound codependent AF. Is it really my job to fix him? Do you want to be a girlfriend or a mommy?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 09:35 PM
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He brought her to a club. That doesn't mean he knew she was going to grind on randos. And sat at a bar watching baseball while she went onto the dancefloor, evermore drunk. Then he's like HoW cAn ThIs HaPpEn!!!111!! That with a theory of risk management, guys can approach more smoothly / calibrated, understanding what's likely to trigger certain women and what is otherwise safe game...No because some girls might go crazy and say you were trying to harass them. OK, we're at the heart of it: If yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 07:58 PM
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From the Sidebar: As a result of long and extensive debates on the topic, and hard-won experience of the moderation team, The Red Pill and its sub-brands are NOT allowed here. This includes posting links to /r/theredpill, /r/marriedredpill, /r/asktrp, /r/incels, etc. AND making reference to redpill-specific strategy/theory (plates, AWALT, dread game, etc.) I can see it now: "Gee, wife won't fuck me...r/db...oh what's this evil red pill stuff they're talking about...hmmm interesting" Can't get an…
/r/MarriedRedPill19/09/18 07:24 PM
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it's always the man's fault Which encapsulates two things: Extreme Ownership and the underlying theory of reactive female attraction. The mindset shift alone from EO applied to relationships is extremely useful and shifts the locus of control to the man, instead of him believing things just happen or she's out of my control. Also leadership in a LTR, which many of us learn the hard way. That may be extremely uncomfortable for a dude but it can also be powerful. And your example to demonstrate th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 06:39 PM
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It's unsolicited because the underlying premise in your OP are worth addressing in the context of RP, which you're mischaracterizing either deliberately or woefully out of context and likely, both. I'm not the only one here giving you unsolicited advice either, we're pointing out the underlying flaws in your entire assessment of this pillosphere thing you're complaining about. In your own words: With Red Pill there is platitude type advice that can be useless for analytical types of men anyway A…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 05:36 PM
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Yet you’re here angry over labels and platitudes...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 04:45 PM
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I try to think harder about the gym than just "work out bro": I try to think about how to maximize my time and resources, my nutrition, my lifting technique, other forms of strength and conditioning, The "work out bro" or "go lift faggot" is inclusive of all of the things you subsequently list, there's plenty of discussion on TRP about what program to use, how to eat, how to recover, etc. Where you're misinterpreting the platitude of "work out bro" is where people get bogged down in mental mastu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 03:13 PM
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I think you can ask many of the married guys here how well being unmasculine, sensitive, etc etc all worked in over the longer term and you'll get the same answer: It doesn't. Ask them also how their respective women (and other women) started to react once they got fit and gained some muscle and you'll get the same answer: It went well, and they have better attraction and sexual outcomes being bigger and leaner than some scrawny metrosexual soyboy, uninspired fluffy dad-bod type, or outright fat…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 02:06 PM
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similar to most guys on this sub How do you know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 01:51 PM
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Taking the other side, the women I have met and dated with either a good relationship with their fathers OR "father figure" in childhood all had a generally healthy outlook on relationships & sex, didn't go too far to seek validation, didn't have very high N-counts, but were freaks once you were in a relationship with them. Very much healthy libidos but weren't using their sexuality for attention or filling a void.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 01:22 PM
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Chris Rock nailed it: Keep your daughter off the pole. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFjBYjFHUIk
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 01:17 PM
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I mean, if your dad was shitty, then wouldn't it inspire you to get a non-shitty partner? Cognitively, yes, assuming the woman has enough self awareness to think through her experiences and then willingly look for a partner that fits what a "good partner" should be. The key is self awareness and introspection, most people go through life running their operating system with little reflection on what is healthy and what is not, or can link childhood damage to their current behavior and correct it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 01:13 PM
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Should men be allowed to have fantasies(openly) of power and dominance perhaps even rape, if they are never going to act on them in a real environment. This is silly, how do you regulate what goes on in somebody's head? There's a clear delineation between fantasy and acting on the fantasy, the latter of which is the problematic one if that fantasy is harmful. are women with rape fantasies damaged goods I presume they just want to be dominated, and by dominated I mean DOMINATED by someone express…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 05:32 PM
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Daddy issues, definitely daddy issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 01:51 PM
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The SMV graphs aren't at all based on fertility, as others here are pointing out and as you're trying to argue for some reason. IDK why you think an n-count of father age across a population is at all equivalent to how successful a man can be in the SMV getting laid, not actually having children. Fertility =/= status, looks, or perceived attractiveness in the context of Rollo's graph. I don't think anyone here will actually argue it's optimal to have children at peak fertility in both men and wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 01:26 PM
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Not my argument nor what we’re discussing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 12:03 PM
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Do you think the linked article demonstrates entitlement?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 08:45 PM
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there must surely be a group of people collaborating on such a grand-scale plot to control women. The Patriarchy, of course. The last meeting for our region was quite interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 08:34 PM
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Career Women are mocked because they make shit partners, placing their career and job ahead of everything else in her life. A man dating or married to one will always be secondary to the job as she pours additional hours and weekends into the job. Additionally, even if she makes less than her partner she'll complain that he "isn't being supportive" if he complains about her lack of availability, or push back against additional grad school, or anything of the sort. Since the career is primary in …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 05:47 PM
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Both coasts, likely more severe on the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 01:27 PM
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It's not about the money, or money is less emphasized as a priority for the career woman. Sure, they like the lifestyle and things money can buy but the drive for advancement is the accomplishment, filling a feeling of inadequacy, or both. The money is a byproduct.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 01:21 PM
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They’re not happy now, but they wouldn’t have been happy then, because they’re just not happy people. It's funny to read this post, it describes my ex wife beautifully. Despite trying to actively talk herself into having a family life she knew deep down she didn't want it and her behavior was squarely on advancing her career, which she hated. She'd rather be miserable in her career than miserable with kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 01:04 PM
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Yup. Listened to him talk about and was like Wut...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 02:59 AM
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Right, but if they can’t get the woman in the first place, then what?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 02:16 AM
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Some YouTube MGTOW fella openly declares his affections for his sex doll, asserting she/it fills his needs for companionship and all that. Quite bizarre to me but it’s apparently a thing, along with sex doll brothels... I seriously wonder how long it will be before significant amounts of men actually check out of the SMV altogether in such a manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 01:56 AM
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and don’t need a man to provide for them or marry them Yet that’s precisely what women demand of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 12:39 AM
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No, this is about someone who was likely 1. Never married and 2. Hasn’t cohabitated with an SO trying to GOTCHA! all the men here with some unrealistic construct in her head. Also someone who doesn’t understand how mortgages and homeownership work, thus either extremely young and/or lacking basic life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 08:34 PM
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But do you do half of the housework??????????????
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 05:59 PM
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Don’t change the subject, you’re trolling around housework being easy in the context of a man doing home improvement and outdoor work, as if a man should do all that and then “help if it’s so easy”. If it’s “so easy” in your words, why does a woman need help from her man?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 04:51 PM
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Central and South America (3rd world, some 2nd at best) are full of rich, short men who buy wives?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 02:23 PM
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RP talks about having and living ones mission in addition to career, 6 pack, et al in order to be attractive, which is not in disagreement with your post if you want to broadly equate mission with willpower. Your characterization of “symptoms” and that RP ignores this is fundamentally incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 02:13 PM
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A good amount of the world is populated by short men <6foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 02:06 PM
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Poor, incapable women! So weak they need a man to help with the housework on top of everything else he’s doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 01:06 PM
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The truths trickle out, especially if you’re listening to her talk to her friends about shit they used to do. Little offhand comments add up to a bigger picture that’s probably close to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/18 09:14 PM
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Damn, you gals are critical AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 05:42 PM
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It's not an experiment, its analysis of existing data.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 05:40 PM
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The trades are one of the tightest labor markets in the US, is $50+/hour for the skilled trades not enough for you? Especially without your $250K medical school loans hanging over your head. Way to shit on hardworking men building shit for good money.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 08:34 PM
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So what stops this strong, independent woman who don't need no man (per the OP) from having her own economic security? Maybe it's easier for her to lock down her man's assets than go out and get her own?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 08:31 PM
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Yea I don't see how good = boring at all either. Considering, however, that most dads I see ARE actually boring, it's not that hard to be fun and awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 08:28 PM
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So you dated a some people who liked to party. You have problems with those people and it just so happened those people also had an High N count. Yes, I dated some and observed others in that lifestyle I have not dated, my observations were consistent. No, the party lifestyle fueled the n-count by their own admission. "We're gonna go out and get laid woooo" is the operative template, not some uncorrelated relationship. If she wanted a relationship she would know the sacrifices that come with now…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 08:23 PM
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If that type of father is the main male influence in the boy's life, then the kid will absolutely model that behavior as an example of how a man should act with women. No More Mr Nice Guy was written with this exact dynamic in mind; covert contracts, lack of boundaries, bubbling resentment...all of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 07:10 PM
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surely Chad also needs to leave the, uh, clambake Brilliant!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 07:07 PM
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I don't suppose this is inclusive of Safe Spaces with coloring books and stuffed animals now common on college campuses...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 06:57 PM
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Considering the oversimplistic reliance on "good communication" in a relationship, i don't suspect you've been in a db position with your wife; a position that's eaten you alive that that one girl you thought was The One wants nothing to do with you. If you haven't, good, it's not fun. That's not meant as an insult, rather to demonstrate reality is quite different from the usual platitudes of "communicate more", "don't take eachother for granted", "marriage requires 100%", "it takes work" and al…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 06:55 PM
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Instead of trying to fix things Clearly something is broken that needs fixing talk to her. Yes, that will get her moist in her knickers...talking about how you both don't have sex any longer. Real turn on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 06:46 PM
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Gee if you married your precious awesome wife and then she won't fuck you despite your endless efforts to make her haaapy, wouldn't you be bitter too?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 06:22 PM
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Wtf are you talking about, we're talking about forcing kids who don't want to do things to do them and the perils therein. What does that have to do with what I do as an adult?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 06:21 PM
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Okay so what about a women with low N count - How does she differ in pair bonding and stable family life? Because she does not crave sex right.. hm, so will she stop having a craving for sex too with you and you end up in a DB. That doesn't make sense. Nobody said a low n-count girl didn't crave sex, or isn't a freak in her own right, she just isn't going out and banging randos every weekend to satisfy herself. I've found the opposite, in fact, the lower n-count girls are bigger freaks and have …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 06:20 PM
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Way to miss a lot of nuance in there
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 06:10 PM
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You conveniently forget a lot of men got deadbedroomed by their wives with no good way out, and found the red pill after.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 04:26 PM
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Where do you get this shit from? You're deliberately constructing an oversimplified caricature of what RP thinks about fatherhood and what fatherhood qualities should be, along with conveniently ignoring there is widely differing opinion on the matter. It is not shocking to realize that some men actually do want kids, red pill or otherwise. One doesn't need to be a beta cuck to be a good father, nor does being some doormat a woman can walk all over qualify him in the eyes of women to be a good f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 04:24 PM
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There was a thread where the question was essentially "Perfect guy in every way except he didn't want to get married, what do?" and the response from women was largely GTFO. Which obviously leads to the discussion as to why that legally binding arrangement was so absolutely necessary, and yes status was one of them, but that's still odd that women absolutely need a governmental sanction in order for their status to be fulfilled to their liking. It wasn't good enough to have a ceremony without th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 03:17 PM
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stop making excuses. Quit being a fag. For as long as many search for some retarded hack for motivation and productivity, it really is this simple.
/r/askMRP13/09/18 02:44 PM
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Same for me. I've seen the pressure from parents to force their kids to do shit absolutely ruin that thing for them in adulthood. Even if the kid/adult excels at it there is still that bubbling resentment towards the parents that sticks around.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 02:31 PM
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High n-count women likely have a lifestyle that's not congruent with either 1. pair bonding or 2. stable family life, which is that party lifestyle, clubbing, etc. Consider also the party lifestyle will have a higher probability of encouraging ONS and such. If she's out intoxicated every weekend until the wee hours with her friends in environments designed for getting male attention, its unlikely that girl is going to be the best girlfriend. If that's her default recreation in her free time, do …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 02:28 PM
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How is this not a CMV?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 01:28 PM
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Yet women in this sub have argued strongly and repeatedly for "marriage or gtfo". Clearly women still want NEED a man's resources, enforceable by the state.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 01:19 PM
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If a woman is interested in a man now it's now solely for recreation. Yet women still filter men for income, education, status, etc etc etc. If recreation were the case, you'd see more women dating "down" the SES spectrum and not across and up as they still do. It's now within a woman's best interest to favor men that will either willingly offer what women value in exchange for what they value, or will accept what they receive for what they're willing to offer (betas). So women are still looking…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 01:17 PM
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Yet you're assigning a lesser responsibility to the woman in this case than the man, despite the woman's own autonomous decisionmaking. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 06:55 PM
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In some places, yes, but that's not my point. Stated another way, is the local liquor store responsible for an individual's alcoholism? Is Nissan responsible if I deliberately run someone over with my car? yasee's point was men are of lower morality for engaging with a cheating woman than the cheating woman is for actually cheating, which to me is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 06:53 PM
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Because if more men enjoy the decline and enable cheating than the number of women willing to cheat, it shows that men are clearly morally worse than women. You're holding women to a lower standard than the men, as if the woman's decision to cheat is a lesser crime than the beneficiary of that woman's decisions. The man is more responsible for her cheating than she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 06:45 PM
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lol the guys may want to do all that, but consider these guys are equally as leftover and more pathetic than the women. Some of these girls have shown me the men they're matched with on their dating sites...its laughable. These guys inspire zero negative tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 06:42 PM
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We must solve the scourge of manspreading!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 06:21 PM
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lol if I ever need recreational drug advice you're my guy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 06:16 PM
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They had their heyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 05:56 PM
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This is what I was getting at indirectly, you were much more succinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 05:56 PM
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Single mothers are poor, condescended to, and stressed out. Economics or morality?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 04:55 PM
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I don't think women's sexual liberation should or shouldn't be immoral. It is what it is at this point, yet there's great consternation that men are adjusting to the reality a la RP. Per my point about the other thread, if a girl is going to cheat on her BF and there isn't some greater moral authority actively pushing back against it, why shouldn't men play at her level. If women aren't valuing marriage as a whole, why should men, for example? There's no stigma around divorce any longer...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 04:53 PM
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It is going on, yet there's still pushback on a morality argument from a lot of folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 04:49 PM
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If there isn't a broader societal standard holding you to acceptable behavior, why should you care what some random individuals think of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 04:44 PM
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Because if more men enjoy the decline and enable cheating than the number of women willing to cheat, it shows that men are clearly morally worse than women. Is the local bar responsible for the alcoholics in your town? That sounds a lot like absolving women of their own agency and decision making and blaming men for women's stupid decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 04:41 PM
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You lose the right to complain about the decline when your actions encourage and support the same. It's "enjoy the decline" not "complain about the decline". At least the complaining comes from men who are still working from a position of old school morality while women act differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 04:36 PM
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There are consequences for this Such as? The fuccboi and the club slut don't have consequences for their actions at a macro level. Potential conflict between individuals and judgement between individuals, yes, anything beyond that, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 04:33 PM
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There is a morality of ad hoc bf/gf if both parties agree to a morality between it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 04:29 PM
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Right, they can't take the risk of failure or even the risk of discomfort to achieve their goals. Inaction is easier than action, and it's much more satisfying to opt out of the game than play it. LIGHT WEIGHT BABYYYYY
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 02:34 PM
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Bishes be crazy From the time a girl reaches puberty until about the age of 50, she is twice as likely to have an anxiety disorder as a man. Anxiety disorders also occur earlier in women than in men....Women are also more likely to have multiple psychiatric disorders during their lifetime than men. The most common to co-occur with anxiety is depression. And you wonder why women are so happy compared to the men you see Women are twice as likely as men to take antidepressant medication (16.5 perce…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 12:46 PM
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Related to your question. To quote myself: RP is giving men 1. a structural framework in how to understand and interact with women and 2. a general pathway for how to use that framework to meet their goals (the "self improvement"). It's the "oh shit!" moment when a guy finds this stuff, buys in, and puts it into practice. Everything else available to men is piecemeal, disjointed, conflicting, dismissive, fem-centric, or a combination therein. I'd argue many guys run through the various other opt…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 12:38 PM
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I'm talking about the massive groups of failed men that have formed over the years in the wake of TRP. MGTOW, incels, etc. hand-waving all of those men away as "not knowledgeable" will only go so far. They may have the knowledge but aren't doing the work. Incel's collective victim complex is a non-starter to begin with, for example. They lack the drive to overcome whatever their issues are and instead of playing the game, putting themselves at risk, and possibly failing (repeatedly) they just ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 12:28 PM
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Correct. I'm an underachieving basement dwelling loser covered in cheeto dust. You ever wonder why we have an unusual concentration of lawyers here in PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 12:16 PM
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You don't believe women have widely varying levels of quality, the traits of which can be prescreened early on? Whats your magic formula? Prescreen your woman well, stay away from loose drunken club skanks, for example. Stay as high SMV as you possibly can. Always be on your game, and never let it get boring. Lead the relationship. Sound good enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 08:55 PM
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How else am I going to waste time and get paid for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 08:45 PM
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tips fedora
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 05:52 PM
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r/bigcatgifs is a hidden treasure
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 05:22 PM
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Don't talk about Fight Club. It works. Drop RP concepts in neutral language on women and they agree with most of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 05:20 PM
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With all the consternation around here about men not communicating with their wives to resolve issues, is it not useful to lay out the situation to your wife before you actually slap her in the face with divorce papers? Or should he declare divorce and then tell her afterwards why?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 05:18 PM
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I don't blame him for her being an asshole, I blame him for him committing to an asshole who acts like an asshole, much to his chagrin. The guy needs to learn his lesson in not committing himself to low quality women so he can stop believing women are wonderful.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 04:56 PM
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That’s not what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 04:43 PM
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I'll go ahead and commend thee for the "dost thou". Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 03:24 PM
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Removes quite a bit of agency from the woman in question, does it not? Don't get me wrong the girls that cheat are all pieces of shit too, but its those other random guys that fucked her, they're the real villains here
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 03:21 PM
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The boyfriend is complicit in the whole arrangement by committing himself to a drunken club skank. He chose a poor quality woman who likely waved more red flags than a communist parade. He'll be shocked--shocked!--when she eventually cheats on him (repeatedly). It wouldn't take much to guess this guy's archetype with relative accuracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 03:16 PM
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The mainstream tropes of "happy wife, happy life" and all that, which I hear constantly IRL. Keep your wife happy and in turn you'll be happy, yay everyone wins! I'd love to think its that simple, yet in practice the more a guy actively tries to keep his woman happy the less happy she becomes, and of course the less happy she is the less happy the guy is since his efforts are not rewarded with much of anything from her end.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 03:09 PM
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Do we need to rehash the colossal downside for the guy if he does choose leave his cunty wife? If it were only that simple... Leaving. Dread Level 10: The "fuck me or fuck you" conversation. Give me what I want or I'm GTFO.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 03:03 PM
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If you break it you have to notify the other party. Where is the notification clause in event of breach?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 01:09 PM
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Why dost thou hate, m'lady?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 01:08 PM
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2nd that. I'll take last winter's every-other-week nor'easter over hurricanes and the like any day of the week.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 07:43 PM
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You can get some thiccness and enhanced curvature...and something about the toned stomachs that's lacking in the world these days. Athleticism is sexy and generally healthy, most lifter girls are deliberate with their food and overall health habits as well, which is a complete 180 from society at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 07:40 PM
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You left out a lot of detail, up to and including how your "talk" went and if she's legitimately bi or just had a one off fling with a bulldyke, along with the status of your marriage in general. Detail would lead to better feedback; start to post in OYS. IF she is legitimately bisexual which I will assume for now, you wife has double the population for her exploits and in turn is double the competition for you. She'll eyeball women just as much as men and have another population she can play wi…
/r/askMRP10/09/18 07:05 PM
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The argument is not 'muh genetics' and trying to simplify it to that really just reinforces that you don't seem to know very much. This is why mainstream medicine will never solve obesity and continue to chase their tail as people in the west get fatter and sicker. You're looking for some sort of medically manipulable factor as the Eureka! meanwhile it really is as simple as what people eat. And yes, for you to dismiss obvious science so easily because it doesn't fit your narrative of 'fat peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 06:06 PM
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It's much easier to say 'lol will power' I suppose. Forgive me for I am not a medical professional as you rightly state, yet I don't think it takes a MD or PhD to see how the argument of Muh Genetics is bullshit as people consume soft drinks and McDonalds on the daily, as most fatties do and will continue to do. Muh Genetics applies to people that do everything right and still have a problem, not your run of the mill prediabetic who consumes complete garbage constantly. Otherwise, you're just fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 05:52 PM
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I feel like this is appropriate here: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/30/sexy-selfies-women-patriarchy-instagram-men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 03:27 PM
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Better development and conditioning Translation: Shaming and repression. the negative parts in the biological male sex drive Are you going to actually define the opaque, catch-all terms you throw around and give them context for what, specifically, is actually negative?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 03:26 PM
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If you're horny and want to fuck and can't, what does that say about your desirability and value to the world? The two are inextricably linked despite attempted shaming of the innate, biological male sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 03:14 PM
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I'm saying successful men are liberal No, you're saying rich, hollywood actor men and a fictional character are liberal. Those same rich, hollywood men who are liberal also perpetuated a nasty, oppressive, sexually perverse system in which both men and women are abused and used and have been for decades, despite their virtue signalling and overt progressiveness. So liberal, much virtue, wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:26 PM
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Boys as early as 14 attach their worth to their sexual prowess. Yet you're ignoring basic biology as puberty hits and these young men become horny little shits. Is testosterone a social construct of toxic masculinity?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:18 PM
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No. You don't get to "do away with the term altogether" without replacing it with something else that's useful, nor do you (collectively) get to constantly move the goalposts around what masculinity is or isn't, or what parts of masculinity are toxic or not. You haven't even defined "toxic masculinity" per your OP or your responses. There are ways to be attractive that doesn't involve mimicking antiquated ideas of what makes a man. When women as a whole stop valuing traditional masculinity by th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:05 PM
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You're missing the obvious: $$$$$$$$$$$$
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 01:46 PM
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Oh no, some women have zero qualms declaring their various conquests openly who whoever will listen. Just because you're not one of them doesn't mean they're not out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 06:03 PM
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Choice. People make a series of choices over their lifetimes on what to put in their mouths, and they do so repeatedly. Fat people--with very few exceptions--make a choice multiple times a day, and are thus fat and sick. People with disabilities, or certain disorders, etc etc likely didn't have the choice to be in their condition, thus deserve sympathy and a humanity. The majority of fatties- they made choices every single day to be that way thus maybe don't deserve sympathy for their fatness. D…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 05:44 PM
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Obesity is caused by environmental and genetic factors Bullshit. Genetic factors, of which 20-30+ years ago didn't exist since barely anyone was fat? Did these genetics magically mutate since 1990? Don't even come back with the "muh hypothyroid" defense either, considering a minuscule population has an actual, diagnosed thyroid condition...both hypo- and hyper-, the latter makes you skinny and keeps weight off, thus the hypothyroid excuse is a low single digit percentage of the population at bes…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 05:39 PM
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These soyboy who will retain their boyish charm into middle age will ultimately wear out their women with their inability to do actual man things like change a tire, patch holes in a wall, swap out electrical outlets, etc since those things are too heteronormative and thus oppressive. Also, those same soyboys won’t have backbones to stand up and protect their families, nor be a stabilizing masculine presence, thus making the woman more masculine. She will resent this deep down. Don’t articles dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/18 12:04 AM
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Ugh so true.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 03:46 PM
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I've proven time and time again RP only works on AWALTy women Cites zero evidence for that claim RP says thing NO EVIDENCE FOR YOUR PSEUDOSCIENCE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 03:46 PM
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We've started a war over a trophy wife, so yea.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 03:40 PM
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We're not discussing when "bad things happen", we're discussing various degrees of "manipulation" between men and women. Per the OP and assertions from critics of RP/PUA/etc, women are manipulated into casual sex, with the implied message of them being victims of this manipulation. My original post points out this infantalization of women in that they are so weak minded they can be talked into casual sex with words from a manipulative man, thus lacking the agency to make their own decision wheth…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 03:33 PM
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What does anything here have to do with rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 02:30 PM
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That’s true. The difference is men are usually blamed for their idiocy while women are victims of eeevil manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 12:40 PM
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You're being deliberately disingenuous in your analogy. 3-5x a day at 30: Where on the bell curve is she?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 08:13 PM
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I've been with my share of 30+ horny women and none of them have the libido described here. You're 6 years younger and female- do you want to fuck 3-5x/day? Flip it- how many normal, healthy men have THAT high a libido at any age as a constant? There's normal high libido and then there's outlier. This chick is an outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 08:11 PM
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with intensity you’ve never quite had that doesn’t really quite go away no matter how long you’ve had a relationship with them Spare us the lovey-dovey, New Relationship Energy 4eva! bullshit. It fades even in the most compatible of couples as the hormone and neurotransmitter hangover starts to kick in and life becomes real. This is known academically, and it always ends. Ask the guys who ended up divorced and torn down how much they had that feeling when they met their (ex)wives and how they th…
/r/TheRedPill30/08/18 08:03 PM
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I think we're on different pages on the application of "entitled" and "covert contracts", and I don't disagree with how you laid it out. My approach is more from the NMMNG side in which Nice Guy has the entitlement of attention/affection/sex/etc from women and when he doesn't get it he blows up. It's a festering resentment when not being rewarded time and time again despite working the Nice Guy script, of which nobody tells him otherwise. This is classic r/niceguys type shit: "I'm nice, reward m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 06:55 PM
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If I was the guy I'd look in the mirror and wonder what lifestyle and health choices I was making to have a shit libido at 30, then go and fix it. That's the practical answer for reasonably normal humans who have a mismatched sex drive and no other glaring issues in the relationship. Considering your "friend" is a nymphomaniac sex addict that's an extreme outlier wanting sex 3-5x/day at 30, I don't know what to tell you. Either she's got some serious mental issues or her hormones are well out of…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 05:45 PM
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I'd be highly entertained by that, prize tiers by how far away he could guess. Bigger stuffed animal depending on distance from home country.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 05:31 PM
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Still waiting for you to tell me my ethnicity
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 04:15 PM
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It’s not shaming, it’s descriptive because it’s not as rare and limited as you allege. Being that Nice Guy is a deliberate mating strategy. Idk how you see that as shaming in the first place, some of us actually lived that experience and thought process to our detriment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 01:24 AM
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I missed your edit. Thank you for stalking my post history, even though you got it wrong, likely deliberately. You're irrationally angry at strangers on the internet for what reason, exactly? Why would anyone take your advice on children? Why should anyone take yours given your hatred, irritability, and nasty insults? Anger is not helpful in raising children...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 09:03 PM
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How dare you! I love my mother and father despite their flaws. Please do guess my ancestry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 08:52 PM
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Myself and a host of others here and in the RP community who come from halfway decent upbringings by an intact nuclear family in which fathers were weak, spineless, afraid of and henpicked by their wives. I honestly don't give a flying fuck about your alleged studies, my weaksauce father who loved my mother very much didn't do me any favors. Edit- You took great liberty in that post to draw conclusions fitting your shitty narrative, by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 08:21 PM
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The father needs to be 1. present 2. not a spineless, placating wimp afraid of his wife. Considering #1 is just short of half of the births in the US per our single mommy statistics #2 is in extremely rare supply these days, it's hard to raise a boy who won't have utter confusion given our very fluid society and can excel in the SMP, academically, career wise, and so forth. From your list, and to say it again and again: #s 1, 4, and 5 (maybe 3) point to the continuing feminist movement to absolv…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 08:17 PM
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TRP begins in a broken home. TRP begins with absent fathers (broken home) OR weak, emasculated fathers (not broken).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 08:11 PM
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Paul Bunyan or GTFO
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 08:03 PM
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The reddit meme of a pathetic guy that is nice in a cringy or overly entitled way is very overblown (especially by feminists) and only applies to a small percentage of men (after high school). It's not overblown, its pathological for a LOT men whose entire mating strategy was to not be the "bad boy". These are the anti-jocks/frat boys/bad boys/etc; largely halfway smart, educated, semi successful guys who at their core were raised to respect women as if it were law and never act like that and tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 07:01 PM
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If they were like that to begin with they wouldn't need to find xRP to fix their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 06:43 PM
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Manipulate = Women are so mentally weak and stupid they are easily talked into casual sex by predatory men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 05:20 PM
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Contempt. Invalidation. Dismissal. If you were deadbedroomed, henpicked, and disrespected by your SO wouldn't you have a bit of anger seething below the surface looking for an outlet?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 05:11 PM
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I am astonished somebody married those particular men in the first place. By the time a guy finds MRP he's been deadbedroomed and henpicked to death and has been looking for answers because his life is miserable and he's desperate for a solution. Furthermore, he's burned through r/db and the rest of the pop-culture bullshit advice for how to make his wife want him again. Most of the initial posts all sound the same; similar templates with minor changes in circumstance. All that is before they ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 05:03 PM
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The whole text me back immediately/i can't get a hold of him at certain times of the day/etc etc is definitely millennial needy. If the guy was actually into her and showed it 2/3 of her listed grievances would probably go away, to which I agree with you on the neediness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 01:07 PM
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After 8 months, she knows the deal and knows it well enough to come here making this post. She can be unhappy and unsatisfied all she wants, but it's still her choice to remain in the arrangement and thus her problem to resolve. Sure, her feelings are justified; she's not getting commitment and the "OMG he didn't txt me back immediately omg" and thus her expectations are not being met, which is in itself unsatisfying. Nevertheless, she persisted and won't make a decision to resolve the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 12:53 PM
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some women’s bodies will never snap back after having kids, especially if she had them at a later age. But fact is a lot of women never get their bodies back despite trying. No. They're just fat and don't try. And the same women who are fatties actually shamed the mom I linked to, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 11:39 PM
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Meanwhile your fat fuck middle age buddies (more American men than american womne are overweight) whats their excuse? Same as the fat sloppy women you’re defending: they’re lazy, undisciplined, useless pieces of shit who don’t have what it takes to live a healthy lifestyle and most importantly, stop shoving garbage food down their gullets. Otherwise, do you mean to argue women 30+ years ago were just as fat post-childbirth as they are today? And re: shaming- did you not read the link? Still wait…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 11:15 PM
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That's fair considering my company has a hell of a tough time recruiting for people to come to the area despite career advancement. Your grievances are nothing I haven't heard before. Selling the area as a "It's not that bad aside from cost of living/politics, consider X, Y, Z." has not been successful. Did you tour the surrounding area at all, any of the suburbs?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 08:23 PM
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Great post. a easy cop out for women who are bored in marriage I'll add many of those "needs" are a moving target, the guy oftentimes can't actually deliver what she wants/needs at any given point in time despite his best efforts in trying in a conventional sense. The flowers, chocolates, expensive dinners, jewelry, etc are simply nice gestures that don't solve the underlying problem: she's simply bored with the guy. Ask how many of the guys here experienced this, it's a lot and more stuff and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 08:10 PM
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There's no statistic in existence showing a pervasive pattern of weight gain for mothers over time leading to higher rates of fatness or obesity from childbirth, outside of the general trends in obesity in the population since 1990. None. Feel free to prove me wrong, I'll certainly be open to some statistic showing it, source your claim. And when women do bounce back, they're shamed. Funny, some women put in the work after having kids to not be overweight. Others (statistically, 2/3ds of them) j…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 07:51 PM
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Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 07:36 PM
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High standard of living, assuming one makes good $$$. Good proximity to NYC and Boston and the rest of New England. Not as bad as people make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 07:35 PM
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Consistently found applicability of other theoretical models of social understanding (eg. feminist theory). You do realize "feminist theory" doesn't exactly work for men trying to get laid, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 07:31 PM
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Only after 1990 is that a valid excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 07:25 PM
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That is actually how women behave, and hypergamy is a legit psychological term. Did the men you listed openly admit to being either "red pilled" or openly admit to being part of the online red pill community, or use the term "red pill" at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 02:08 PM
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What mainstream advice tells men to be "self-confident bad boys"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 02:05 PM
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lol like you don't know how to use a simple search function or sort by flair? Maybe you'll find this one particularly interesting: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/8254r1/q4rp_men_how_has_your_father_influenced_your/ Another, this one before my time here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/79mmbv/qforrpmen_what_was_the_formative_experience_that/ If you want more, look on your own or stop being lazy and create a post asking the exact question you want answered. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 02:02 PM
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I'm not your errand boy, go look yourself or start a new thread if you're so interested. Hint: They're "Q4RP".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 01:33 PM
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And those three openly say "I'm red pilled" and they learned their dread game from Reddit? And how does a guy "use hypergamy", that doesn't even make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 01:31 PM
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With this in mind, I struggle to take RP seriously after meeting RP men in real life. You've actually met men IRL that have openly admitted they are "red pilled" and are part of the reddit community?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 01:24 PM
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We still can't seem to reconcile RP is wrong and doesn't work with RP isn't anything new and all this stuff is obvious duh...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 01:22 PM
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That I’ve yet to see a TRP who swears by RP who can articulate how it actually improved their lives There are threads here on PPD regularly where reds post their experiences to this exact point. Unless you're 1. willingly ignoring them or 2. summarily dismissing their experiences it's extremely difficult to miss this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 01:16 PM
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The whole time the back of our brain is screaming that something's fucking wrong but you can't articulate it with the front part. So, enter TRP. This can't be emphasized enough. This is that "OH SHIT" moment so many men have. Considering my experience and what I can tell from many other men who had that nagging gut feeling that wouldn't go away, no other resource in the world explained the situation better than RP. None. The problems are deeper and the mainstream sources of advice never get as d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 01:13 PM
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RP "works", but only if your goal is to become a bitter asshole without meaningful human connections, but at least gets to stick his dick in a lot of holes. So you admit RP works...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 12:44 PM
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They love them but aren't in love with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 06:20 PM
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Forget the anal porn with leather-clad German dominas you saw or the scene in Eurotrip where the dude gets raped by a German dominatrix in Berlin. Amsterdam.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 04:40 PM
2

West Hartford has your food and bar scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 03:56 AM
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And it's tough when he acknowledges that it's purely chemical and hormonal that makes him feel angry and depressed...he concedes that it's not possible. Is he actively working to find a solution, or is he just resigned to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/18 07:43 PM
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Social media and TV are encouraging competition among women more than anything. Commercials are advertising perfection every day: your hair needs to be perfectly shiny and bouncy, your outfit needs to be on point and match the latest style, your makeup needs to be flawless, your skin needs to be perfect, body needs to be perfect. Yet every single body positivity movement is aimed at and pushed by women: HAES, calls for MOAR FAT MODELS, body acceptance, et al. Every liberal media outlet pushes fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/18 01:30 PM
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Flip the script: Would a wife get upset if one day the husband was like "babe, you got very fat and you need to lose 50 lbs?" If she gets upset at that obvious truth being told to her, will the marriage not last long?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 08:11 PM
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Pair her with a chubby, weaksauce beta and she'll dry up all right.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 08:07 PM
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What if she doesn't want to hurt your feelings? What if she doesn't think you can handle the message?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 07:51 PM
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Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 07:46 PM
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That has nothing to do with a woman not finding her husband attractive to begin with, nor wanting him to even escalate to his subpar sexual performance. If the sexual experience for straight women primarily consisted of external stimulation until orgasm, no expectation of any sort of penetration, etc. it would significantly reduce the number of women who avoid sex / have a "low sex drive". Bullshit. This sounds like some sort of autistic "studies told me how to sex" template. And I'll be damned …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 07:43 PM
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Understood. Just saying it C'd My V.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 07:39 PM
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His post challenged me plenty, I vote for it to be up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 06:34 PM
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If you don't know how prevalent it is, then why are you arguing so hard for it to be a factor?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 06:34 PM
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That's like when fat people say they have a thyroid condition as a reason for their fatness while some minuscule percentage of obese people actually have a thyroid condition. Again, there are plenty of older women in the world who went through similar hormone changes and don't have problems with their libido for the right guy. There's plenty of elderly fucking in assisted living. Unless there's an actual diagnosed medical condition the hormone change defense is a convenient excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 06:21 PM
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what else is there? Undoing shitty Nice Guy behavior, getting rid of covert contracts, becoming more assertive, setting healthy boundaries, taking ownership of the house & kids, becoming fun again, gaming your wife, et al. Not to make this into a dread game thread, if a wife sees other women find her man attractive doesn't that speak for how she treats him and maybe leads her to reconsider how she sees him? BTW the guy doesn't have to make a overt display or act to have that happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 06:12 PM
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Most dudes get to MRP after taking the traditional DB advice of "communicate more" with poor results. They already communicated, they already tried negotiating, giving space, etc and it didn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 06:07 PM
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OK, if its a medical condition that's an extreme outlier, sure. Considering how utterly rare that is, all else equal, I don't buy that as a general, typical reason for a DB.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 06:01 PM
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OK, if its a medical condition that's an extreme outlier, sure. Considering how utterly rare that is, all else equal, I don't buy that as a general, typical reason for a DB.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 06:00 PM
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He should just get it, duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 05:50 PM
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