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More restraint is necessary now since this actually went somewhere. I need to establish that in person contact is a must for me.
/r/TheRedPill18/04/17 08:25 PM
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The next two months will be incredibly busy. Not sure I will have much time. That's why I put in a bit more extra effort these last flexible days so I could have a plate for this period.
/r/TheRedPill17/04/17 11:32 PM
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I'd say your assesment was correct. We had sex. Of course the art lies in managing to plate her.
/r/TheRedPill17/04/17 10:36 PM
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I fucked her and she did not flake. I grant you that transitioning from sexting to first ever meetup makes things super awkward. I pushed past it with some effort and while for many on here it certainly wouldn't be worth it i can use the experience.
/r/TheRedPill17/04/17 10:36 PM
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Fucked her. Most probably you guys' comments made me be more aware of the fact my communication was too much.
/r/TheRedPill17/04/17 10:34 PM
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Fucked her. You can understand I wanted to pursue my hunch that I was doing well despite not nailing shit basic in TRP game. That's why I removed myself from this post. I think it's tough to do TRP correctly through Tinder though. That's why the aim is to get a face-to-face immediately. So basically you were right about things but for some reason my approach worked.
/r/TheRedPill17/04/17 10:32 PM
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This seems to be the consensus. I will make adjustments.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/17 01:25 PM
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You are making a valid point. I did invest more than I should have. I intend to calibrate that starting today. If you have any further suggestions for that I am all ears.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/17 11:28 AM
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That's a possible outcome though I think "already having oneitis" is possibly going too far. I always keep in mind that if for example she looks like a 7 she probably is a 6 irl. Though you guys might be right I need to withold interest as per classic theory. I might have been carried over by the novelty of the situation. Also talk has been made about logistics which I intend to set in stone in the next days. First flake she is probably gone. I mostly like it because I believe it will be easy, n…
/r/TheRedPill14/04/17 11:18 AM
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I do think character and integrity are appreciated but mostly coming from high value people. Many people consider it subservience when it comes from lower value people. Come to think of it some guys who come off massively as assholes benefit from beta type maneuvers because of it. Being out of place can be bad but sometimes it can be used to one's advantage. High level success doesn't come from conformity.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/17 05:13 PM
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Women confuse high SMV with integrity and character. A colleague of mine (only man in class besides me) was "playfully" called gay by the other students at the placement. He also got a lower performance score while I can vouch for the fact he is as competent as I am. Also his demeanor was more "professional" and he was more deferent to the supervisors, a behaviour they construed as "weak" and Beta. TL;DR: A fuckin' WALT no matter the context. Teasing my "boss" got me better grades than being all…
/r/TheRedPill22/03/17 10:19 PM
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She was the initial reason I went down this path. It's only a matter of time before I hook up with someone of her perceived caliber and she won't even be an afterthought.
/r/askTRP14/03/17 07:17 PM
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That's my leading theory and it doesn't hurt one bit. Suppose the rest of my reactions to her were just a habit. I don't like myself back in 2012 so why should she.
/r/askTRP14/03/17 05:40 PM
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If that's true maybe she'll attempt something should we ever meet. You seem sure she did notice me. What gives?
/r/askTRP14/03/17 08:55 AM
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It will probably be forgotten this time tomorrow. She has been off my mind for a long time. Seeing her gave me some nostalgia.
/r/askTRP14/03/17 12:18 AM
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Sounds like I did the right thing ignoring her then? I felt conflicted to be honest. I lost my virginity about a month ago to an escort and have been with one girl since. Perhaps as I have continued success other experiences will take the place of the oneitis and it will be forgotten. She has been "out of sight out of mind" for a long time. The only instance where I randomly though of her was about a year ago and only in passing.
/r/askTRP14/03/17 12:17 AM
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Putting it i to my schedule. Thanks! My theory about the caffeine is that since it is a stimulant it causes overexcitement. It is known that anxiety and excitement are near identical physiologically.
/r/askTRP08/03/17 05:33 PM
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So I should work on that. Could caffeine have further fucked things up making me tense or something?
/r/askTRP08/03/17 05:09 PM
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Yes I've heard of it and have recommended it to a friend who has problems with premature ejaculation. i have never done them consciously. So apparently I should do it in order to gain control and only do it at will?
/r/askTRP08/03/17 04:37 PM
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Thanks for your thoughts! I can get off from masturbation however prior to losing virginity I edged a lot. Maybe that's why I stop myself almost reflex-like. Last time the hooker got mad at herself about it and things became very hot. That massively turned me on so I finished. I don't treat this like a blow to my manhood but it dissapoints coming this far after a lot of hard work and being unable to function as desired and intended.
/r/askTRP08/03/17 03:49 PM
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I guess the appeal for a TRPer lies in turning over the table since they don't like the way it is set. I haven't used another prosti and doubt I will soon. It's a habit my wallet couldn't sustain. If I was filthy rich I most probably would be a regular user for the convenience.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/17 12:27 PM
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The overthinking part is a fairly accurate assessment and was the reason behind my decision to gain some exposure to an unknown activity (sex). I'm sure it came easier to you but I am an analytical type. People like me always end up being scientists, academics, clinicians etc so a strength can be a weakness and vice versa.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/17 04:28 AM
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This is definitely possible and a sound strategy on her part. I have noticed however that my anxiety always comes off as extreme aloofness. This also happened at the time I had trouble being sociable with people in general. They would think I had no intention of doing so and that I had some issue with them. Who knows! I got a good deal because of this circumstance.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 05:21 PM
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Well I was afraid of being injured I guess. As ridiculous as it sounds....
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 08:55 AM
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Well those men have "earned" the right to indulge since their SMV is so high. They do not pay for access they pay for variety, skill etc etc. There's a thought...
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 12:23 AM
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It seems we have to agree to disagree on this. I recognise your valid points though and they are duly noted. I don't feel any more entitled right now. I just feel more comfortable putting myself out there and pulling the trigger if need be. Also have you considered you might be projecting your massage experiences and forming a "one size fits all rule?". Nothing can fix loneliness because loneliness is being uncomfortable being on your own. I intend to thrive on my own.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 12:20 AM
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I'm on a trip in Athens right now.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 12:10 AM
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I do this but unfortunately it riles me up since I consider having to work my ass off to get girls despite my personal achievements and merits. Of course sexual strategy is amoral and defintely not meritocratic in the traditional way.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/17 05:45 PM
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This is a good juncture to mention I once relentlessly pursued a supermarket cashier. It's what brought me here. Paying every now and then definitely trumps gaming hired guns the BP way. At least at my current SMV level. The BP hive mind calls flirting with everyone a sleazy practice but how else will you be comfortable in your own skin.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/17 05:40 PM
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I could probably have gotten a fugly myself that's why I didnt get the 30$ one. She was about 8.5 and while cheap the extras were expensive.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/17 05:12 PM
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Agreed on desirability being the important factor and the fact it's non negotiable. That's basic knowledge for people on here. Antariusz, I don't know if that's true but I guess they could enjoy it on a pure physical level. Also if dominance is displayed that could multiply the effect. However abba is right for the most part. There is a clear value difference between the two of you since you are paying her which is a beta strategy no matter how you slice it.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/17 11:48 AM
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I have no criterion for this since I've never done it though. Not saying I disagree, when I first close a civilian I'll probably have an "aha moment"
/r/TheRedPill11/02/17 11:42 AM
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No one said about repeated outsourcing. However your outsourcing analogy is sound. I probably won't be going again for a long time if ever. And I agree turning this into a habit will do fuck all for my in-field skills. However having done it at least once I can have an idea of my strengths, weaknesses and I definitely feel better knowing I won't jizz in my pants before my underwear comes off. Also I think myself "deserving" of sex through the "proper" channels and I have had opportunities I didn…
/r/TheRedPill11/02/17 11:38 AM
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My end game is civilian chicks as plates. That's the only reason I did this. Getting my dick wet was a bonus. Of course (these) women lie incomprehensibly well but I noticed some differences between her reactions. On the whole there was no porno-like moaning just some subdued moaning which was suspiciously consistent meaning that was her fake one. When I thrusted deep in missionary and held steady eye contact I noticed her breathing became deeper and she broke the moaning pattern as well. I won'…
/r/TheRedPill11/02/17 11:31 AM
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The 20-30 was the low tier I probably wouldn't muster a hard on for. They probably were clean it's just that their faces were bad and the rooms had a very sleezy feel to them. You get what you pay for I guess. I am in greece where about 40 to 50 is decent for a nice, clean girl but you are always prone to not get your money's worth in terms of service. The one I got nagged me for time sure but she could have kicked me out within half the time I was in there and she would have been within her rig…
/r/TheRedPill11/02/17 09:08 AM
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With regard to exposure therapy for my irrational fear of having sex it definately was legit. The penis can't tell the difference.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/17 01:57 AM
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Won't a degree of being spoiled make for good abundance mentality? Like "I've had better this should be easy". It's a double edged sword but the dick can't tell the difference between paid and "free" pussy. Using prostitutes as the sole outlet is a danger others have mentioned as well. It is a sexual strategy but not reasonable for the money I have and is definitely a poor financial strategy.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/17 01:15 AM
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It definitely should be legal it's just not a result of someone working on themselves and their smv.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/17 01:12 AM
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It's legal here just costs about 30€ more
/r/TheRedPill10/02/17 09:48 PM
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That logical. Because my thrusting was pretty good when she was riding. Doggy was a bit better and missionary was the worst. These positions basically range from more support to less right? So it's purely exercise and won't fix itself with more sex huh?
/r/TheRedPill10/02/17 09:44 PM
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No meth my friend 5 a.m flight that day and woke up at about 8 a.m the day before that. Also why did I thrust okay while lying down? I started gym september but did a month only when i stopped due to a pilonidal cyst. Doctor's orders. Started again last week. All the above advice considered your advice is very sound. Thanks!
/r/TheRedPill10/02/17 06:55 PM
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I do not deadlift yet. I was a lazy fuck and hadnt been to the gym since 2012. I have lost 30kgs through diet in the last 2 years however so my efforts at the gym will prove even more useful now. I started in September but stopped mid october due to a pilonidal cyst. I started again last week. Will keep your advice in mind.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/17 06:47 PM
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I wouldn't pay for penetration again soon but I would pay again for a BJ right now if it was financially sound. That says a lot! Shouldn't girls know that since they are becoming more and more slutty?
/r/TheRedPill10/02/17 06:42 PM
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They are mostly legal or cops leave them alone and get freebies. Streetwalkers are usually legal. The one I went to was definitely legal and on the website the girls' STD tests are attached.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/17 06:41 PM
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Well "old time girl" ideas transplanted into males through conditioning is what this sub means by "feminization of the western male". I stopped believing this on a conscious level a while ago however this didn't make the anxiety go away. The more I think of it this might have been the best way. Drown or Swim. I am going in the field tonight. I think yesterday kick started my libido or something. I am even hungrier to succeed
/r/TheRedPill10/02/17 05:22 PM
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That's of course why I won't commit. A whorehouse at least has a pricelist. I never found it morally bad or an indicator of being a loser. The "whores are for losers" rhetoric is bullshit.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/17 05:01 PM
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If it's a muscle thing then maybe the fact I was sleepless for 35 hours counts here? I have footbaer legs in general quite built there even without exercise. I'd say that today my vastus lateralis (quadriceps) is a bit sore. Like I had leg day the day before.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/17 05:00 PM
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Was it bad on the escort's part or did your whole mindset impede your enjoyment? Yeah I mean how the fuck do you thrust lol. It's pretty weird. My way of being dominant was being incredibly distant. However I have zero respect for women in general, it's not a prostitute thing. You do what the fuck you like and if there are objections you are sure to hear them since they never shut up. If you are in a management or leadership position think like that in your interactions.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/17 02:57 PM
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I am at a "before and after" level of physical self improvement. Mentally also doing very good. I go to the gym, have my diet in order. I sleep 8 hours for the most part. I am finishing uni among the upper top of my class.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/17 02:30 PM
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I don't know about the online dating part since I don't think my physique is my strong suit. It seems you have no problem attracting women. Only a logistics issue. ALWAYS carry condoms since it means you are prepared for "success". This considered I don't think it's necessary since you didnt face anxoety that prevented you from doing what you wanted.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/17 02:17 PM
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I don't know about the online dating part since I don't think my physique is my strong suit. It seems you have no problem attracting women. Only a logistics issue. ALWAYS carry condoms since it means you are prepared for "success". This considered I don't think it's necessary since you didnt face anxoety that prevented you from doing what you wanted.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/17 02:17 PM
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Well said. It was a novel experience of course but definitely not special.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/17 11:59 AM
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If I were you I'd do it if you've been proven to be considered fuckable by a girl you'd fuck but you didn't due to anxiety, fear etc. Like I mention in the post, I have passed up two easy one night stands with plate potential with an exotic (for my Mediterranean location) Canadian and an Irish redhead. I still bang my head on the wall thinking about those nights.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/17 11:56 AM
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It was about 11am which is considered early for whoring around here. I guess that's why I didn't get kicked out. But in order to get condomless bj for free she must have been in a hurry. Well frustration doesn't have a lot of differences with attraction so that's why the sex got better at the end. ;)
/r/TheRedPill10/02/17 11:14 AM
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So you could say I shopped around in a wise manner. That's good to hear. I have a thing for foreign or foreign looking women. For some reason having to communicate in english (I'm not a native speaker) puts me in a superior mental state. You seem to know your shit about this stuff. Was her nagging etc etc standard for this type of service? For example her "shit test" was obviously meant for me to turn her around and hammer her for 30 seconds until I was done.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/17 10:12 AM
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I can say I enjoyed it a lot. Except for the obvious physical part it gave me a feeling of power. I am moderately happy with my performance which is more than I can say about most in my position (hehe pun hehe). Also I was sleepless for 36 hours. My response to her comment about my equipment was also interesting. I would have expected myself to be a lot more touchy about this. To be honest I feel as if it makes me hungrier for getting in the field so I can test if my mental state has changed.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/17 10:08 AM
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I have always held myself to some standard. It's not always a confidence thing. I always want something out of life. Maybe it's a weakness. Perhaps at some point I was tired of taking whatever was handed down to me and faking a smile. Whether with regard to social circle, education or women. You know what the best way to get something is? Deserve it. That's why I hold no illusions about my limitation. However my "ambition" gets the better of me and I want to erase as many limitations as I can. A…
/r/askTRP04/02/17 02:11 AM
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Food is taken care of and I feel ashamed in it taking me this long. For clarity. I workout during a fast. Small snack afterwards. Then lunch. Small snack by 8 pm then fast. Repeat. Lost 25kgs that way. 6 meals is the biggest bullshit lol i know. Very nice calculator man! Thanks! Is there anything you can reccomend besides the fitness aspects?
/r/askTRP04/02/17 01:41 AM
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You could say for about a year my mission is taken care of. Graduating top five of my school with possible lucrative work abroad were my skills are highly needed. Frame is everything man! I swear. This year I was in the same clinical placement as last year. My supervisors were female and I got a huge increase in my assessment and received privilege while there without increasing the quality of my work that much. What I did was basically treating them like any other chick in breaks. Humor, passin…
/r/askTRP04/02/17 01:37 AM
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Thanks for the concise answer. Fat: I know man. Too bad a lifetime of poor habits and the resulting fat can't be undone right away. I am on the path though even despite the stupid "you look fine" comments. Face: I certainly can't say I look great since my features are not at their full potential due to some fat, even if a little. Personality: i am familiar with outcome independence, idgaf and abundance. It still needs some work, that's why I am looking for ways to increase SMV. Through options c…
/r/askTRP04/02/17 01:07 AM
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Transference is pretty accurate. Didn't occur to me.
/r/askTRP16/01/17 03:28 PM
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I see. You are probably right. Thanks for the input! So harnessing it would be too dangerous huh?
/r/askTRP15/01/17 10:55 PM
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You are suggesting I approach this with a clear head then? Seems to be my usual course of action. However something tells me to ride the wave this time as I am usually overanalytical.
/r/askTRP15/01/17 10:26 PM
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There's always more work to be done. Every plate is just a stepping stone towards my growth. The enticement is so much bigger this time around due to the fact she is an exact copy of that chick. I think it will make for some effortless asshole game.
/r/askTRP15/01/17 08:49 PM
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Depending on how far along the unplugging process you are this may hurt.. If you are quite visibly overweight to the point where you can't look "good" in your finest clothes then I do think it is a waste of time. Take it from me. I lost 25kgs in about 2.5 years. First time I felt truly desireable was four months ago. I was approached by a girl a few weeks back for the first time. I have 10-15 kgs to go but I am in an okay spot. Problem is...the chicks that drop like flies are hb sixes at best. A…
/r/askTRP06/01/17 08:54 PM
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Funny how my former nice guy self would say I was talking like an asshole. Now it comes naturally. I had to depedestalize them so they could look up to me. My responses were not A&A, not C&F what could they be classified as? Not familiar with any theory behind it but it seems to be my style. I think muchabouaboutnothing has hit the nail on the head. It shouldn't take a girl only 9 and above to compel me to take action. She was an 8 and probably I would never have dreamed of her approaching me ev…
/r/askTRP29/12/16 12:30 PM
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I know it's a rationalisation after the fact. It has happened two months ago when a girl threw herself at me much more obviously. I either just become complacent with the attention I get or play it too cool as a defence mechanism. This can make me seem uninterested. Where's the quote from? Seems familiar... I am considering a hooker to go through with it just once. It doesn't bother me since I know it's not my SMV. What do you think?
/r/askTRP29/12/16 12:23 PM
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From your words you sound like you've had similar experience to mine but are older. :)
/r/askTRP28/12/16 11:58 PM
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Thanks for your advice. You seem like you know what my situations is like. About the hooker thing, I'll use an example. Two months ago I got a lap dance for the first time. It was the first time I saw and touched real t and a. First I felt anxiety, then like a king. Then I felt this strange detachment. Like "big deal". Then I enjoyed it again. That day onwards I became a lot more sexual and good with kino etc. I think a hooker will do the same with actually closing. I am a person who was born ta…
/r/askTRP28/12/16 11:22 PM
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I am a very analytical and goal oriented person. The best achievement is the next achievement. That's something I don't think should change despite the problems it causes. Not saying you are wrong of course. It's a choice with consequences some of which I don't like. Truth is I try to keep strategizing for my downtime not when in the field. But whem I push into new frontiers I can't help but do so. Also, having lived your life being invisible or even disgusting to women you get a self-destructiv…
/r/askTRP28/12/16 11:01 PM
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This pretty much happened at my clinical placement this semester. I was also placed there last year and while my work wasn't significantly better my female supervisors told me "the difference is day and night for the better". Except for an increase in performance at the upper end of the marginal spectrum what changed was: 1) A bit more confident. 2) More friendly at the breakroom with what could be considered harmless flirting (C&F, very mild teasing). 3) 10kgs weight loss 4) Being flirted by so…
/r/TheRedPill28/12/16 08:07 PM
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Is your weight in check? Always had this issue, lost 20-25 kilos and now I have such a drive that I can hardly nofap for more than two weeks. Still, increasing it more is a plus as it is good for those who are avoidant of sex.
/r/askTRP11/12/16 11:29 PM
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I mean, below a certain threshold of physical attractiveness no matter the frame and/or game she won't fall for it. I can recall instances where I didn't have even a fraction of the IOIs I am having now with game twice as tight. This makes me put an emphasis on my physical attractiveness. Sometimes this means I don't feel like I am enough.
/r/askTRP10/12/16 09:02 PM
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The bad thing is they kinda did I just ignored my emotions and answered as if they were not there... The monkey thing was what I was thinking of. When you can recognise a frame battle in split seconds it is exhilarating. Not about to shit where I eat. But in two weeks my placement will be over. Then I can do what I like. All girls are potential connectors no matter their looks or status. Any idea how to better utilise them though?
/r/askTRP10/12/16 08:31 PM
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I have been really feeling as if I "wasn't qualified to race" up until a few months ago. I dropped 25 kilos in 2.5 years, cut my hair and made my wardrobe better. You could say it's because I have been handling game better. True! But I find people also change us with their reaction to superficial change. I feel as if I am finally judged on my merits. You can't game a woman if she doesn't let herself be gamed.
/r/askTRP10/12/16 08:15 PM
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Thought so...that's why I answered with a playful ""Why? Is that what you get off to?" And she jokingly said yes. I honestly notice I get into a lot of situations that seem weird to me but are mostly IOIs. Had I been unworthy of positive attention for so long I wonder?
/r/askTRP10/12/16 06:51 PM
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Could you elaborate what restrained means in this context? Translated in my culture it can mean 1) shy 2) disciplined 3) stoic
/r/askTRP10/12/16 06:36 PM
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Her friend's. I said "A gimme your number I'm not giving B mine. She'll ask for smiling selfies all the time.
/r/askTRP10/12/16 05:49 PM
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Already doing the innuendo thing. Not much kino yet though. Only covert due to her being from work.
/r/askTRP10/12/16 05:44 PM
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-They are in my clinical placement and dont know me very well. They seem interested in general. One in my buddy and one in me. Though I get the feeling they are casting a wide net.. We actually took a selfie together all four of us. -Oh I see about it being a typical ioi. So it is a mini shit test. The last time I basically told her playfully "Why? Is that what you get off to?" And she jokingly said yes.
/r/askTRP10/12/16 05:30 PM
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Could you explain how it's an IOI? It kinda got to me seeing how I have made huge leaps into being more outgoing and less serious. It made me doubt my progress (thinking about it not right then). I think on the fourth time she asked she made eye contact while smiling and said "look at me I'm smiling at you smile at me too". I smirked and held eye contact.
/r/askTRP10/12/16 05:13 PM
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My call to action was a rejection by a oneitis. After that many rejections on approach. It felt bad despite all my positives as a person I would be stigmatised for my extra pounds. Lost 30kg. About 10 to go. I have women (cute but a bit chubby, good body average face) who I don't exactly crave treat me like a king. Last night out I had a girl buy me a beer, follow me around and give me a massage. Also she nearly flashed her boobs at me in a "joking" manner. Sometimes I feel like I am enough whil…
/r/TheRedPill05/12/16 05:57 PM
1

Meaning hypergamy will be a bit more checked? You are onto something... What about girls being less liberated though?
/r/askTRP25/11/16 07:28 PM
1

Well while Istanbul is not the same as other areas of Turkey and more Western, is it Western enough to live life as an RP non-commital guy? AWALT everywhere however does culture enable them enough for a guy like us to benefit?
/r/askTRP25/11/16 06:37 PM
2

Ok I actually did that. Kept my frame and run with her observations making her elaborate. This happened at a volunteer group btw. First day. She asked what age I was and I told her to guess. Then this happened. I don't think I'll go for it. What with the shitting where you eat thing and all.
/r/askTRP22/11/16 10:02 PM
2

I had no intention of changing the way I conduct myself so you are correct in suggesting not doing so... Today I had the urge to ask because I think some girl was gaming me. She talked about "being into the study of body language". And began analysing the way I was sitting (legs apart, arms on armrests and a slight head tilt)
/r/askTRP22/11/16 09:17 PM
2

Nah never called a geezer so there's that. Actually I come across as very intelligent and capable. This creates a general impression of me as the "serious guy". However I can be equally self-amused and " immature".
/r/askTRP22/11/16 09:12 PM
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Well it seems that they mean it in a "powerful 30s guy" way. However "guy in 30s" could mean beta as well when opposed to what women perceive as a guy in his 20s (typical bad boy)
/r/askTRP22/11/16 08:58 PM
1

Yeah I need yo get over this. I am not comfortable with this yet so I took it too slow... As time passes the dissapointment and self-blame fades and the good feelings about this remain. From doing approaches and being met with silence and even disgust to this. It feels like I almost made it finally.
/r/askTRP31/10/16 08:39 AM
2

The only guaranteed condition is that NOT kissing basically guarantees you won't fuck her. And I think I have the confidence to handle possible resistance. Needless to say it's my go to for the next time I am in a position to do so.
/r/askTRP30/10/16 09:02 PM
1

I swear that's the root of all my problems with women. I am very analytical.
/r/askTRP30/10/16 05:06 PM
1

I guess you are right too bad I judge myself harshly. If I didn't I probably would have done nothing...
/r/askTRP30/10/16 05:00 PM
1

Maaaaaan I could kiss you (see what I did there?) Wow this also fit in so well with last night's vibe. But it can be applied in general. I also think it's telling of my issues that I never though to look up kissing routines. Never thought I'd move up to there soon perhaps.
/r/askTRP30/10/16 04:29 PM
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It seems there's a consensus on this. I just need to push through the awkwardness. Oh right that's what they call it. On the bright side I never thought I'd make it to first base.
/r/askTRP30/10/16 02:23 PM
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Story of our lives as men basically. Pushing through everything... Next time it won't happen probably. I usually progress a sort of ladder where I fuck up a step and next time I don't repeat it. It's also nice to know from my friends that I didn't seem the least bit awkward.
/r/askTRP30/10/16 11:40 AM
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Just so happens when girls in class or a group setting are out of line I directly ask them if they are having their period and they say yes. Mostly do it for self amusement but good to know it's accurate.
/r/TheRedPill17/05/16 08:26 PM
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You have the right angle on this. But there are literally no groups for activities I enjoy such as writing, video games and acting. And I find it strange living in a city of 1 million. Truth is however I also enjoy bars given the right company. I like dancing and people watching in bars. I can only get in the mood to approach with only one friend who unfortunately is not often availabld to go out. Alsso all of my other friends are in relationships (pussy whipped). That makes things harder. Not s…
/r/askTRP08/05/16 10:35 AM
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Not saying I know the sidebar by heart but I have read the whole thing. I'll check if there is anything specific to my sticking point though.
/r/askTRP06/05/16 01:13 PM
1

Ok I like your way of looking at this. I'll adress both. 1) I am a virgin at 21. The only thing that seems appealing to me about sex is the power-dominance aspect. Perhaps I don't "need" it enough? 2) I do have a tendency to be anxious towards approaches but even when I move past it (as in actually approaching) I can't act genuinely interested due to RP making me look at women in a less flattering light. It bears mentioning that before RP I was a classic case of pedestalising the women I liked a…
/r/askTRP06/05/16 12:06 PM
1

There's no point in denying that. However could you elaborate?
/r/askTRP06/05/16 12:01 PM
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Quite possibly but I don't think a single 36year old has an issue with being perceived as a slut. Whether it is on or not she ought to call and say what's up.
/r/seduction12/04/16 05:13 PM
2

Currently doing that. Wine and dine invitation at a 36 year olds house on the pretence I will fix her computer...yeah right. I explicitly told her to confirm and radio silence on her part. I have no problem postponing again and again until she gets it right.
/r/seduction12/04/16 12:09 PM
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I will take a look at this for sure! Though I am feeling pretty nihilistic about the game at the moment since she didn't respond. Too many flakes and non-reponses when in the moment they make you think you are doing fine.
/r/seduction10/02/16 08:29 PM
1

Seems we have the classic "no response thing". Apparently not able enough to say no or give fake numbers...
/r/seduction10/02/16 06:57 PM
1

Actually that's kinda my bad I didn't open new contact I opened the dialer. So she just put her number. Other than that I was thinking along the same lines as you. I think doing this today is best...
/r/seduction10/02/16 01:46 PM
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I know people among the staff there so there are opportunities for social proof. I aim to use that to my advantage. I feel out of the loop regarding proper state since I just finished with exams and spent three weeks with no clubbing. That will probably make me more pumped than ever though.
/r/seduction08/02/16 04:12 PM
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That's very solid advice and I second it for anyone reading. On that front I am very happy since yesterday I am at my lowest weight and dropping! So what you are saying is there is no problem doing traditional night game within "social circle".?
/r/seduction08/02/16 04:11 PM
1

That is very cynic even by my standards. I would think it's bullshit as well. Most of the time it's a lucky strike if someone brings one girl. However it would be his girlfriend who will bring them over. He is new in the neighborhood and doing the whole "meeting people" thing. His girlfriend has been here a while and has her own circle. And also a good friend will be there so even if he doesn't bring girls. Who cares...
/r/seduction08/02/16 04:07 PM
1

I heard that "classic" condoms should be used since being a virgin you don't know what your preference will be. So you use the classic ones and then go from there.
/r/askTRP25/01/16 12:31 AM
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Wow!!! You really put things in prespective for me. Right now I feel as if I can fuck my latest prospect through a wall.
/r/askTRP25/01/16 12:15 AM
2

Could be a personal issue. I feel very ashamed of acting blue pill. Chalk it up to resenting past mistakes. From what I read in the comments I shouldn't have any issues.
/r/askTRP24/01/16 11:47 PM
1

Well as far as I now the opening is between the inner labia, lowest part. :P
/r/askTRP24/01/16 11:45 PM
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I think I have shit properly calibrated since I am out of the anger phase. Will take this as a reminder to keep doing so. When it comes to sex though I feel my blue pill self will come out or something. Well the good thing is my expectations are more in line with reality and I have a better eye for prospects. So you are right. All you have to do is be around women.
/r/askTRP24/01/16 11:26 PM
1

I keep thinking things will be going too fast for me to fake it. I could be wrong though.
/r/askTRP24/01/16 11:22 PM
1

This is a useful outlook. Something I should keep in mind in the moment.
/r/askTRP24/01/16 11:20 PM
1

I definetely won't be telling I'm a virgin. To me that's suicide these days lol! I guess I want to give her the impression I've done it before. Not necessarily become a sex god from the first time. That's unrealistic. Will things be different in any way if she is more promiscuous? Will she be more likely to be able to tell for example?
/r/askTRP24/01/16 11:20 PM
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That is food for thought! And to be honest it makes sense given my lack of posotive experience. However I still don't get why in this particular example with the cashier girl that affected me. I was quite confident at the time and did what had to be done.
/r/askTRP11/01/16 09:10 AM
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I don't know about that...giving up investment by moving on is much easier than not being invested and keeping on. I had oneitis for this girl and I felt very wronged by her behaviour...I don't know if I can keep it together... Besides. I don't like the idea of feeding her ego. I will also feel like a kicked dog coming back.
/r/askTRP11/01/16 02:04 AM
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I gave up on it. Self explanatory based on what I wrote. I see her on the usual basis. Smiling at me because it's her job. I am still supposed to be hearing from her on when she is available :P So like you said she seemed to be eating from my palm. I had her bagged if I got her to spend time with me. I asked her out for coffee and she kdpt dodging forever.
/r/askTRP11/01/16 01:30 AM
1

Well imagine how I felt when this went belly-up and I know fuck all about why...
/r/askTRP11/01/16 01:21 AM
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I have become a bit bolder during "harmless flirting" saying things I once thoughtbI wouldn't get away with. All that remains is giving that purpose and channeling where it is necessary. My stumbling block remains a mystery to some good friends who have seen people do more with less, so to speak however I can identify some key areas: -I look older than I am. This makes me more trustworthy in professional settings as well as social circles but during approach I seem to be even more behind than mo…
/r/askTRP11/01/16 01:05 AM
1

Well no smartphones then so people had to get busy :P
/r/seduction11/01/16 12:54 AM
1

I should have clarified! I mostly wanted to see how I handled things as a conversation with no specific goal. She has "asked me out" in her way but I am not sure about things. Keeping it in maintenance till I decide to be honest.
/r/seduction25/12/15 04:28 PM
1

Sounds too easy lol!
/r/seduction19/12/15 10:57 AM
1

This one has said and I quote "I am a pretty sweet person but of someone gets on my nerves Beelzebub's got nothin on me" Could be the same type of woman
/r/seduction19/12/15 10:56 AM
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She sounds aggresive!!!! Hahahah...
/r/seduction19/12/15 09:27 AM
1

I think "ride" is a pretty appropriate choice of words
/r/seduction19/12/15 09:21 AM
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That's....not inspiring.
/r/seduction19/12/15 01:47 AM
1

Well as I respondes above in terms of attractiveness I can say she is not unattractive. Of course as a friend told me "So you are telling me she might not be worth it and the bitch leaving your nose in the cold for months last year was worth it?". Maybe I am bullshitting myself! I am mostly think that tapping that will let me tap (hehhehe see what I did there?) into my potential as man. What I found discouraging was when I told her " No, no steady girl right now" she said "I kinda was expecting …
/r/seduction19/12/15 12:27 AM
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I wouldn't say I am the typical oblivious guy. I just had the misfortune of having "she is definitely hitting on you" turn to a rejection. This time however it seems all too blatant even for me. I am considering it because she is not unattractive and it could be a success that would spiral to more success.
/r/seduction19/12/15 12:23 AM
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As a speech therapist I am very curious why your sessions didn't succeed. It's not impossible for this to happen but it could be the therapist mismanaged or misappraised your stuttering. The stigma is quite inappropriate and would take a lot of public awareness to fix.
/r/seduction26/11/15 07:45 PM
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That is a valid thought however a year after making changes shouldn't I be past that? And by the way it extends to everything not jhst women.
/r/seduction24/11/15 09:00 PM
1

An example would be not blocking myself like victurchen mentioned. And I have come to realise I can "get away" with saying and doing things I wouldn't have thought of. Some time ago I wouldn't make any witty comments and innuendos or what have you.
/r/seduction24/11/15 12:08 AM
1

Do PM me about it!
/r/seduction20/11/15 02:23 PM
1

Let's not even go there lol! A couple of weeks ago I thought I had been approached. Totally ruined my morale...
/r/seduction15/11/15 12:07 AM
1

The comment thread should be interesting as I am hugely in favor of blue eyes. To the point it's sometimes all I think about when a chick has them.
/r/seduction12/11/15 10:44 PM
2

Wow! Is it something with Irish girls being a lot more forward? That one didn't approach me but I just threw a copliment on her dancing while she leaving and passed in front of me and I could see her waiting outside the bar for a few minutes. My friend said it was time to leave. While outside I wave at her while walking away and she calls me over. Needless to say I could have made out I could have even had a ONS. But I was too stuck on my oneitis.... Yeah I managed to fuck that up!!! The experie…
/r/seduction11/11/15 08:49 AM
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Very interested.
/r/seduction28/10/15 10:15 AM
1

Huge bummer. i wanted to flip the table at the coffee meeting and leave. She did say "It's fine, collaborations can succeed on more than one level". So we will see about that.
/r/seduction27/10/15 10:48 PM
1

I just told her I am not interested in any of that in a tactful way ("that all sounds pretty rad but this year is a tough one and I ought to eat,drink, breath speech therapy") She responded with "That's alright, we don't all feel we have the gumption to start a business.". Wow can you say " emotional blackmail? :PP She also mentioned something about "work collaborations can exist in many levels". We'll see if that holds this Thursday when we meet again at my placement
/r/seduction27/10/15 08:49 AM
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Oh I see! At least I didn't "do" anything to warrant this. I am still very disappointed. I thought this would have been a lucky break with women. And I did like this one. Oh well....
/r/seduction26/10/15 09:20 AM
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I said I was expected somewhere and didnt want to carry a lot of shit with me for hours. So just a brochure and some cds I am supposed to give back. Also shewrote our names for referer and attendee on some sort of invite (paid event but I get in free). Will probably say I took a look at the materials but it's not for me. I am actually in Greece! We do have pyramid schemes but this method was unknown to me. I thought the opportunity was related to what I do (I am a speech therapist). Do you think…
/r/seduction26/10/15 02:29 AM
1

Honestly I can't get any sleep right now. I am doing research and constantly thinking "what did I nearly get myself into?". I wasn't into the business part but the " self improvement" thing could have sucked me in. Take note Amway is not as well known a scam in my country as it is in US. I also feel uncomfortable with the fact that she saw me as a prospect. I don't think it bodes well for what vibes I give off. Needy\weak or whatever. Was letting her lend me materials a bad idea?
/r/seduction26/10/15 01:52 AM
1

Currently doing some serious research. I am genuinely afraid of going. I will tactfully refuse and I will probably not be trying to establish contact outside of work. However based on what I read she won't want anything to do with me as people who don't help are considered negative and toxic. I felt played but having read all about the cultish stuff I feel bad for her but realise it's futile to attempt talking to her about it. She said a boyfriend got her into it so the brainwashing must have be…
/r/seduction25/10/15 11:01 PM
1

Any ideas? What would you do? I am probably skipping the meeting as I read online that it's a bunch of brainwashing bullshit that is a waste of time and best and at worst hustles you out of money.
/r/seduction25/10/15 09:22 PM
1

That obvious huh?
/r/seduction23/10/15 07:47 AM
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Though it is wussy of me that I find this so hard to believe....
/r/seduction22/10/15 09:32 PM
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You probably want to motivate me but I don't think she had the time to be frustrated by my not asking first. It was my first day and I was there for five hours. We mostly talked on breaks and when clients were skipping sessions. I did have a nice moment where I was ice cold cool with a hulking guy with autism lunging at me...she specifically said "I like how cool headed you are" Keep in mind she is a temp but I am just a student. I am de facto lower rank than her.
/r/seduction22/10/15 09:24 PM
1

Yeah I thought so too since she is not my supervisor or anything. I'll probably act natural and go down the "things just happened" path instead of being direct. Damage control but not waiting until I leave. She is a temp as well so maybe that's why she had the guts to ask.
/r/seduction22/10/15 09:21 PM
1

Already followed up on her offer by saying I will probably find the time next week as I am currently on a trip (travel is a DHV after all) and am fully scheduled for the weekend already. So I kinda said yes without doing so... Really planning on letting last time go and just get the friend.
/r/seduction12/10/15 06:17 PM
1

Those two rules sometimes are used as a euphimism for physical appearance being an overriding factor. But I guess you mean it is about behaviour and mindset, as I believe myself.. I didn't make any mention to her flake or seem overly distant. I wasn't overly eager as well as I glossed over her proposition since it was kinda vague. I will leave her a text when I return from my vacation and propose time and day. It still astounds me how random her text seemed to me. Maybe I saw things as black and…
/r/seduction11/10/15 12:29 AM
1

Yeah you are right. In retrospect I did "recover" from it fast enough back then and it lead to a sorta "fuck it" mindset after then. An ignored text I had recently, only bothered me for about a day. Not zero fucks given yet but definitely getting there. You seem to have her shit together pretty well. Would you take this one up on her offer?
/r/seduction10/10/15 09:16 PM
1

That sounds plausible depending on the scenario... No ovulation the last two months though? :P
/r/seduction10/10/15 11:25 AM
1

I have read about flakers or whatever initiating after zero contact. Maybe zero contact works too well in these cases?
/r/seduction10/10/15 09:41 AM
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I only like her friend so...wouldn't like to do that to be honest. Still noce scenario :P
/r/seduction10/10/15 09:41 AM
1

You are right and I have been working on that. It wasn't the rejection per se, it's just that her way of going about it is manipulative and petty in my opinion. But maybe she was genuinely busy or changed her mind. Who knows? I told her I will be abroad for the next week so we will see later... Perhaps zero contact works for these cases. Only this time much later.
/r/seduction10/10/15 09:40 AM
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Maybe I should have reserved judgement for tomorrow as today is election day and a lot of people are travelling from here to their home towns and back today. Still...I think that if a girl is sufficiently attracted she will find time. Unless of course it's a mind game.. Will feel better tomorrow anyways for certain.
/r/seduction20/09/15 08:32 PM
1

You can't imagine how annoying that is. In the past I could explain it because of unattractive behaviour such as supplication or poor frame control. Now I am totally stumped as are friends who know about this stuff...
/r/seduction20/09/15 08:29 PM
1

I have improved pretty much everything that should have made me more successful and it's the same old same old. Tomorrow morning I'll prkbably not be as angry. I think you can appreciate how bloody demoralising this is. You are right though but I can't help but think I am the issue here...
/r/seduction20/09/15 08:27 PM
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Same shit happens to me a lot. Still not sure if it's bad. I like it whether women like it or not. A good way to balance it is to figure out how much you've been underestimating what you can "get away with" saying and doing. It's kinda trial and error though...
/r/seduction08/09/15 11:52 AM
1

Touchè :P
/r/seduction07/09/15 06:23 PM
1

I have read that but maybe it didn't sink in at the time as my deficiencies were more fundamental. Maybe I shouldbread it again. Can I get away with a summary or something? Not that much time to read.
/r/seduction07/09/15 06:06 PM
1

I suppose you are right and maybe that has to stop. You know what they say about doing the same thing over and over. Actually there's going to be a setup with a girl I would classofy as bitchy in the near future so that's a good place to start. Unless something else pops up. I seem to be on an all or nothing mode. I realised I shouldn't actively seek that type of situation so I did nothing. Perhaps I had grown complacent. I had to fix alot of stuff in my life the past year. Now I don't have that…
/r/seduction07/09/15 03:37 PM
1

The classification does seem to be a bit moot anyway...the "sweet" girls have done the kind of bullshit I'd expect from bitchy girls. I was only looking for a girlfriend but not sure anymore. Is it my game that's fucked up?Or is it my expectations of women or women themselves?
/r/seduction07/09/15 11:44 AM
1

Well I think that I generally overthink things. I have improved escalation, learned to project a more fun vibe. Friends say that I have completely changed "more fun, confident and relaxed. It even shows in the way I walk. I sometimes even say some shit I wouldn't have said (in a good way). However I still can't approach to save my life and now I have this issue with what I want. Which basically I have no idea. However I am less unhappy about being single.
/r/seduction06/09/15 09:51 PM
1

She obviously killed my approach before it happened. She acted at my expense for obvious reasons. She was into me and prevented anything from happening with the other girl. A mix of both. I never was into her but I don't like bullshit excuses. She was already in friendzone because I am not into her but she didn't help her position. The "work it out in the corner" thing was meant to be ambiguous. It could mean anything and that has an effect.
/r/seduction15/08/15 04:43 PM
1

Actually meant "though". Edited in.
/r/seduction15/08/15 10:18 AM
1

That's what I usually believe but I guess I deviated from that due to her being more promiscuous than the girls I usually go for. By setup I actually mean an introduction. Nothing more. Not a native speaker so I may have miscontrued.
/r/seduction14/08/15 11:45 PM
1

I've had a girl DLV me while a girl was checking me out at the club. She acted as if my light kino was unwanted. When pressed about it, she said that she didn't want her to mistake us for a couple. I wasn't convinced. I told her "If you do that again I'm grabbing you by the arm and we go work it out in a corner" After a while I realised she was into me. I friendzoned her though.
/r/seduction14/08/15 10:19 PM
1

All valid points. Too bad the discussion is kinda moot since the girl in question and her friend cancelled on me. I consider it a flake until proven otherwise. It's always useful for the next girl though. Excepting the fact I am too pissed to find a next one.
/r/seduction20/07/15 11:21 AM
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While that is true, 9 times out of ten I've seen this happen the girl has totally forgotten her friends are around, if you know what I mean. I have also seen it happen during make outs. Women below the 30s can be imposssible babies about validation and attention.
/r/seduction19/07/15 05:37 PM
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Based on experience (both from myself and friends) it goes like this.... Either they find you attractive and do it because if you don't give them some then you won't give anyone. They may cite various excuses such as 1)she was drunk 2)she has a boyfriend 3) I am "protecting". Most of the time that's bull! If your intentions are good and you are not being creepy there's no reason for that.
/r/seduction19/07/15 10:29 AM
1

That's a very nice post. You could say I am a bit like you when it comes to confidence vs confidence with girls. I am also in a similar situation as you guessed by the post you commented on. However I am worried I am getting ahead of myself. I have only seen the girl in question one time and I think I demonstrated intent through escalation (with some high risk maneuvers). I am actually puzzled regarding asking for a date directly or pursueing throgh social circle as: -Tomorrow marks the second t…
/r/seduction18/07/15 07:22 PM
1

Heading there now... thanks for the heads up.
/r/seduction18/07/15 07:13 PM
1

So again direct is a high risk high reward thing. I am more interested in how direct would work in a tight-knit group. Will there be any pressure from friends etc?
/r/seduction18/07/15 02:30 PM
1

It could be that since I am mostly seeking a relationship and not sex. Could it be that lack of touch also makes them not know what to expect?
/r/seduction07/07/15 12:45 PM
1

I have been considering direct game since I feel like indirect approaches are not for me. Any good opening tactics for direct approaches?
/r/seduction07/07/15 11:11 AM
2

I gather that the perceived limits of what we can "get away with" are needlessly confined. We need to start figuring out where the actual edge is.
/r/seduction07/07/15 11:10 AM
1

A kiss at this point would be a revelation for me lol! I'm at that level... Which seems to be a huge paradox since everyone is wondering why I have zero success. I seem to be figuring shit out on my own these past months. It's odd that dancing with a girl drunk brought about this "epiphany" on escalation and sexual intent. I am told I have eye contact down, even by female friends. My gaze is intense which used to drive people away, now I pair it with cocky half smirk. I noticed that I learn bett…
/r/seduction07/07/15 11:08 AM
2

Actually I am either friendzoned or flaked. Not a single date in my life. Due to various shortcomings on my part. Most have been fixed, but I need to learn to be sexual. Numberclosing and asking out a girl who would have been a crazy SNL the night I met her is the stuppidest thing I have ever done with a woman. Women want sex but I don't seem to act like I want it. If that makes sense. Quite solid advice there man!
/r/seduction06/07/15 12:10 PM
2

This! You probably were a lot like me regarding anxiety.
/r/seduction06/07/15 12:07 PM
2

As an over thinker and a person with social anxiety, being in the moment and having a stoic attitude is a complete must. I am slowly getting there!
/r/seduction06/07/15 12:06 PM
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True. That's probably why I perceived those IOIs. Isn't that "only validation, no sex" thing kinda like being afraid of success though?
/r/seduction24/05/15 12:48 PM
2

Worst rejection I got to date was by an ugly chick. I was in a club and I mistook IOIs. I approached, introduced myself and before I could say anything she turned her back. Decided to self amuse so I gulped down the rest of my beer and left the empty bottle on her table, then left.
/r/seduction24/05/15 08:45 AM
1

I dunno. Her sister was there so it kinda felt weird for me to do that in front of her. I will probably do what you mentioned. Simple and it will probably be smooth as all hell. She most likely already figured out where things are going but with the right amount of "maybe"
/r/seduction20/05/15 09:30 PM
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I was in state, I had fun and I had the balls to do what the whole bar was thinking. And probably succeeded. This happened at a night where I wasn't sure if I should go out and I had been bitching about my oneitis earlier that night. When I went home I said "who cares?"
/r/seduction21/09/14 06:45 AM
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You don't have to be impressed so... If all you took away from this was rejection I'd say you are in a lovely mood.
/r/seduction21/09/14 06:44 AM
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I didn't actually make moves, I acted unintimidated and it made a statement in that case. Something like "you're a fine poece of ass but no thanks". Well her bitterness showed she liked me. She wouldn't be saying that if it hadn't crossed her mind. Not universal but true in this case. If she was so determined she would act nice and give me some indirect LJBF speech. She waited only after we hated each other to say all that. Covert touching is a nice starting place. Light kino that is. You'll see…
/r/seduction17/08/14 11:46 AM
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Hear hear :D Non seduction community friends don't seem to agree. I am not afraid of literally being alone. In fact my social circle has next to no access to prospective girlfriends because of it, but I can sleep at night now at least.
/r/seduction17/08/14 08:32 AM
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I don't usually do but the people in question are mostly girls I've been with since my AFC days. I want them to get the memo and not forget it intentionally.Things have changed. Better to have balls and not use them instead of risking giving them up just to use them...
/r/seduction17/08/14 08:27 AM
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TL;DR your anger is righteous. lol That's what I primarily wanted to get out of the way so thanks for saying it! Just because I no longer tolerate it, I am called misogynist by guy friends. If they want to be screwed over fine. I am not interested in anybody getting screwed unless I want to strip them down, flip them over and... you know the rest. I fucking hate when women drop our friendship because they get a boyfriend, because I'm the first mother fucker they contact when they break up and it…
/r/seduction17/08/14 08:24 AM
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I have had this happen. And with a girl that was playing "good girl". Didn't give shit regardless as I had friendzoned her. Sometime along the road I played along just for the hell of it and for social proof. Anyway, some shit happened and I told her not to show her face around me again. From what I heard the shit that happened wasn't the sort of shit she would have liked. She was bitter and acted as if I fancied her in front of mutual acquaintances, you guessed why ;) So, me I'd take it with a …
/r/seduction17/08/14 08:19 AM
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Hell hath no fury blah blah? :P So you think that is a possible explanation for this behaviour. Talk about double standards, I'm supposed to suck it up if it's me but they get to whine.. Perhaps I am taking women too seriously.
/r/seduction17/08/14 08:13 AM
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Oh! Seems I understood "physical respect" correctly. Been there and know I am held accountable for that. It just feels like almost everyone puts guys they respect physically above those who are not "nice guys" just friends by choice. Perhaps they take my choice as fear or necessity. For an example see the one I told b1ly on my first reply to his comment. The girl in that exampe seems to assert she has friendzoned me every chance she gets. I try to give her the impression of "You didn't choose me…
/r/seduction17/08/14 08:00 AM
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When I am not joking/teasing I try to be considerate unless someone deserves to have their ass kicked. This for me applies especially to women. I don't think they should get away with saying anything. They should be called out on their bullshit/held accountable/take responsibility just like I try to do.
/r/seduction17/08/14 07:47 AM
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Could you clarify on "physical" respect? My issue is not actually being friendzoned. The examples I give (except the one explicitly about friendzone years ago, which I have taken responsibility) are about women I have no sexual interest. That said, I guess you are suggesting escalating despite my having no interest?
/r/seduction17/08/14 07:43 AM
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I've heard that said but hearing it from someone with seduction community background validates it as a way if thought instead of a pep talk. I feel confident, I bloody well am. Yet I don't feel like I am met with the respect I need. Respect is earned, granted but I don't think I give people reason not to give me any. I just realised I am probably vending rather than doing anything else. So thanks for looking past that and replying... I was told a year back that I had crossed the line, lost my se…
/r/seduction16/08/14 11:31 PM
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My best buddy said that to me about that one. He's what I would call a natural. All these behaviours make me doubt if I can actually be really friends with any woman. And if you can be neither real friends or have sex with women, where does that put you? Me? I feel like it puts my four years behind when I was friendzoned. And I took it for a whole year, believe me... This whole issue has been digging into my mind for at least a month. Only decided to post here just now.
/r/seduction16/08/14 11:17 PM
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I think I should elaborate on that. By not showing weakness I mean sharing fears and doubts a lot less with them. I just try to have fun and not hring anyone down. But I do share stuff just not in an AFC way I guess. I also think it's possible to be needy with female friends. If she doesn't get back to me she doesn't get back to me. I don't call again unless it's very important. I also act more flirty and tease which is a good thing. I try to hold my frame despite them being friends. Having been…
/r/seduction16/08/14 11:07 PM
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Well I probably do see this worse than it probably is so thanks for pointing it out! I really need to remind myself of this. So apparently it's date setup and frame control. Not too soon and not too late. Got it! Getting some more numbers would be ideal though, since having a lot of options keeps my perfectionism of how I manage things away. Thanks for all the help!
/r/seduction22/07/14 05:00 PM
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it's already done. See my comment above for the details. I'd love your opinion.
/r/seduction22/07/14 04:20 PM
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Just called. Pretty mediocre interaction... -Good 1)She remembered who I was without even my saying my name. 2)Her voice sounded a bit deliberately high pitched. As if she was trying to sound cute over the phone. 3)My tonality and speed of voice was as ideal as could be despite my being a bit nervous. -Not Great 1)She went straight to the point about the test 2)In not that great of a mood since she failed the test 3)Call lasted 3 minutes tops and we didn't say much other than the test (I couldn'…
/r/seduction22/07/14 09:58 AM
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Like I said, just going for it is a major sucess for me right now. So I am pretty much content. Pretty solid advice! A slight obstacle for me is she might not be in town. I think I'll ask and if she's at her summer house I'll say "Niiiice, I'm at (place) myself. So, when I'm back in town I'll call you so we can grab some coffee or something". I believe my opener only gives me one call so if she's away it means I wasted it. What do you think?
/r/seduction22/07/14 06:50 AM
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That is a damn good suggestion. Any such topics if I essentialy know next to nothing about her? Not trying to make a script but a general dirdction would be nice. Such a close may not seem like much but it's been four years since I have closed someone not even slightly related to my social circles. I did get some PTSD-style thoughts but I pushed through. The date setup is top priority. Since that last time I value knowing if I am wasting my time or not.
/r/seduction21/07/14 09:11 PM
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Well my small talk will probably revolve around her test since that was my excuse. Since it's summer she will be probably be out of town. That makes it touger... Car spin is not happening though :( It was a theory test allowing me to train in driving a car. Yeah, really (facepalm)
/r/seduction21/07/14 02:05 PM
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Thanks for the help! I'll be a bit clearer on my repost. Feel free to drop in. Sorry for wasting your time.
/r/seduction05/05/14 10:30 PM
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Well, I did suppose it wasn't a typical specific "askseddit" thing. You are the mod though. Do I delete this?
/r/seduction05/05/14 10:18 PM
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That SWAT analogy is the best thing ever
/r/seduction20/03/14 01:42 PM
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So agreeing with it to some degree confirms I am as frustrated as I feel. Oh well... The whole "looks are 40% and money is 50%" seems to completely go against PU
/r/seduction06/03/14 02:07 PM
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I read most of it. It is fucking depressing to read right now....
/r/seduction05/03/14 07:14 PM
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She said it kinda seriously. I have seen another occurence of her being bitchy, towards a lecturer even and she has denied being bitchy. She had even tried to make me support her. I am certainly not being AFC in class or with her so I don't know what makes her believe I will do what she says. AFC-me would have said "Sorry about that" or something along those lines.
/r/seduction18/02/14 09:17 PM
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She already opened it when she told me. Nevertheless I agree with your thoughts. To be honest I don't think she would have said that if others were around.
/r/seduction18/02/14 09:15 AM
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Great point! That reminds me: "What do women want." "Who cares"
/r/seduction17/02/14 09:20 PM
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Actually, I don't know why I never conciously thought of it as a shit test. A while back I would but I have been trying to be less analytical. Maybe my choice to ignore it means my instincts have improved?
/r/seduction17/02/14 09:16 PM
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These are my thoughts exactly. And I think I didn't say anything because it would sound angry. I am in a very red-pilly place right now and behaviour like this...disturbs me. The question isn't why I should/shouldn't have opened the door. I fucking didn't. She can and will deal with it :). The question is why she would be like that..
/r/seduction17/02/14 09:13 PM
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When I open them it's usually my way of being in front of the rest of the group. I move forward and keep it open. But I got lost in thought that moment.
/r/seduction17/02/14 09:01 PM
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I am in a small commuter college so I see her everyday. I am the only male in class. Quite interesting for practice. Though I find a lot of them to be manipulative. I thought saying that (lightheartedly of course) would be hypocritical thus making it more cocky. I can pull it off teasingly.
/r/seduction17/02/14 08:51 PM
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Thanks for the reply! For the record I am not gaming her or anything. I just found it interesting that she said that. She sounded genuinely annoyed.
/r/seduction17/02/14 08:43 PM
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I guess binging on Mad Men did that to me a bit. I didn't want to facilitate an outcome as I was indeed a man with a purpose. I had to nail that shit, not her :) In truth, it's mostly because I've been too much of a nice guy and I need to get it out of my system. Until then, approaches just because...and mostly situational. I find that when I am going through a very stressful day I become very social. Otherwise I barely speak to anyone. Could it be I am too tired to give a f#ck? Later today for …
/r/seduction15/02/14 09:03 PM
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I had a pretty good non-verbal moment today. No close though...trying to get used to the fact I can pull off shit like that. I was having an IELTS exam today and I was in line with that girl. Pretty shy by the looks of it! She asked me if that was the line. Which else would it be lol? Then I whipped up some situational joke I don't remember. Then it's the time when they take a photo of us and the photographer tells her to push her hair aside (fkr some reason). I smiled at her in a "Don't worry y…
/r/seduction15/02/14 01:01 PM
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I love the fucking shit out of cycling. Problem is, I only get to do it in my summer house's area. My city is no place to cycle safely I think. My folks would chew my ear off and they would be right. I guess it would be depressing but I am very cynic and I know what will happen if I lose weight, just because I lose weight. And I don't go around blaming people for judging me about it, just trying to find or shortcut or deprive them of their excuse. I am used to being judged since forever. I am a …
/r/seduction07/02/14 01:26 PM
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I am pretty active myself but I could never bring myself to exercise consistently. And you know what? I honestly think that if I did I wouldn't have had half the wit and intelligence I have right now (whatever it may amount to :D). I can't shake the feeling that people in general, not just chicks, don't usually care to look past the fat. I may not be ripped but I'm still standing even after all that's happened to me. There's gotta be a reason for that. There also was a reason most men had their …
/r/seduction06/02/14 10:34 PM
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"The average guy has no fucking clue how receptive women are to him" So true! Looking back I realise some chances I should have taken. I am fat myself and I think I let it get in the way too much. I think "NAH!! She aint checkin ME out"
/r/seduction06/02/14 10:03 PM
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Well I've had a few. 1) I was friends with a chick and apparently she didn't like that. Two years into it she starts emulating a BF-GF relationship (sets meetings up so we are alone, invites me over her place, that sort of thing) until I ask her out. Suddenly she has a long distance boyfriend and I am left with my nose in the cold. I let her manipulate and even doormat me. In truth I only worked up the courage to tell her how aweful and fake she is a month ago despite my having vanished for two …
/r/seduction06/02/14 09:59 PM
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I guess that's the attitude I should have. At the moment I also don't feel like my social value is going anywhere. I only managed to lose two people from my group of friends. I don't regret it since they were basically manipulative bitches. It just seems like it's the norm for girls my age. The "mature" ones tend to be manipulative and the rest tend to be childish. Perhaps I have to accept it and not give a fuck about it..
/r/seduction06/02/14 08:25 AM
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This post is gold! You clearly seem to know what you are talking about. Me being a cynic, I'd say you make a much stronger point then the typical "Be confident" Disney-style bullshit. Improving body language and using power poses before reaching natural confidence is a must. There are some studies around about how it changes brain chemistry to reduce stress and increase confidence. So it substantiates the "fake it till you make it" claim. These past months I have become a lot more confident in m…
/r/seduction05/02/14 10:36 PM
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I'm 19 and I've been single...forever lol. I was too fucking dense until I hit 15.i was still dense though until 17. I started putting myself out there a bit more. I managed to stumble on the psychos both friendship wise and relationship wise. Examples: 1) Manipulative friendzoned bitch who turned it around just to friend zone me. (as ridiculous as it sounds) 2)Manipulative friendzoned bitch and former friend. Actually I've been meaning to make a post about the state I'm in. I've seen some of th…
/r/seduction01/01/14 10:39 PM
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Very useful since I tend to be a control freak at certain time.
/r/seduction26/11/13 02:06 PM
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Something along those lines is my choice.
/r/seduction07/11/13 03:16 PM
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I just can't see this working where I live
/r/seduction07/11/13 03:07 PM
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This has to be the best material I've ever read. It makes me wonder if that's the reason I was approached at a symposium a few weeks ago (didn't close as she is from another city). I always figured that I can be witty but outgoing comes to me only after I've known people long enough. After a few years I seemed to have lost my passion. I want to get into DSLR photography (have a kit but don't set aside any time for it). I always wanted to get into drama but no such luck in my town. Any advice on …
/r/seduction17/10/13 01:57 PM
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Good thinking. She seemed relaxed enough after class for me to try any combination of the above.
/r/seduction14/10/13 09:24 PM
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With a bit of luck she may plant the kiss somewhere better :) Nice job
/r/seduction14/10/13 08:51 PM
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Unfortunately she is definitely hearing it as a respectful plural. In my language (Greek) it is a separate form. So no matter the vibe this stays in the way. Semantic I know but it will never penetrate the barriers. To my understanding, flirting would need to be a nice mix of her being in non professional mode as well as her having a feeling of discretion. It seems to me plural won't let her be non professional or at least allow me to gauge reactions as I bring it into more casual territory.
/r/seduction14/10/13 08:40 PM
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Yeah I get what you are saying it would be too early for a first name thing. The greeting is the usual for teachers "Hello Ms" or "Hello" plus a pronoun in the "respect plural". "Good morning" seems to be a neutral solution when it comes to greeting.
/r/seduction14/10/13 05:14 PM
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The rest of my interaction was like talking to a colleague except for the plural. The plural would be a problem still I think. Isn't it too much of a barrier?
/r/seduction14/10/13 05:11 PM
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Well I am the one saying "you" and it's tough finding a way around it as it is not a matter of her being a stranger. It is a matter of her being my teacher. Not using the plural you could be disrespecting her role.
/r/seduction14/10/13 03:44 PM
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I'd also like to know what the book is. Seems very interesting.
/r/seduction05/09/13 09:09 PM
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As a speech therapist in training I can really understand your concern. All I can say is what has already been said in the other comments. Though keep in mind that you may think you have an impediment when you are actually nervous (thus doing it more AND noticing it more). Also definitely do what Meepsy said.
/r/seduction05/09/13 08:30 PM
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Glad you find this useful even a bit.
/r/seduction04/09/13 10:32 PM
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That's how I aim this one going down ;) The HB 8.5 won't be around for long and since she mostly seems like Gf material I'll probably game her a bit. Getting back on the saddle and all...
/r/seduction04/09/13 10:07 PM
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Well it is intimidating since the ball is often in your court. The good news is, you get to play ball all the time :) In retrospect it actually isn't that intimidating. I guess the first time had to happen to let me believe in myself again. Still I need to do this more often and also consider doing actual approaches. What I am looking forward to is the eventual "day 2" with this set. It will probably be in a nightclub where I will have to be profoundly high energy :D Cheesy dance moves for the w…
/r/seduction04/09/13 09:55 PM
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I guess better to listen to somebody say "Whatever" than see the metaphorical sixty years pass.
/r/seduction09/08/13 12:41 PM
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Wow. This kinda happened to me a week ago on a bus. Kicked myself over a lot the rest of the night. The story is motivating though. Yet I can't help the feeling that most openers that come to mind are irrelevant.
/r/seduction08/08/13 09:59 PM
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Gotcha! Looking forward to more material.
/r/seduction19/06/13 04:59 PM
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Thanks for posting! I really need to try the shoe routine as well as the ring routine. I've heard about the ring routine before but kudos for showing an example. I like how it sounds more intelligent rather than usual "chick crack". You may have said so on your post but I'll ask. Since it's a cold read should I let her know I know that stuff because of her shoes or not?
/r/seduction19/06/13 12:50 PM
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