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Numbers speak for themselves: this is not working. Massive kudos to you on having the balls, you've developed thick skin and it will be extremely valuable in life. In terms of day game cold approach, regardless of what people say online: Starting with 'hi you're beautiful' is terrible UNLESS you're at least a solid 8 yourself. Trying to end the interaction too quickly only makes sense if one of you is in a hurry or she's obviously not interested (try to have longer conversations whenever possibl…
/r/seduction11/04/22 10:51 PM
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Not hard to do with Tinder. Three is my hard limit, more than that and I don't have time for anything else. But pretty much anyone can go on 7 dates a week with dating apps. Just optimize your tinder profile & your instagram, learn some text game tactics and put in the time.
/r/seduction28/02/22 03:31 PM
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Just go on more dates. If you only have one date per month, you'll spend the rest of the month thinking about that date. If you have 3 dates per week, I promise you won't even remember what you did on each date.
/r/seduction25/02/22 02:58 AM
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Male SMV is not just about looks. A very handsome guy flipping burgers will never date a girl that is an 8, 9 or 10. For men it's more about status. Drake looks like an average guy but could bang a supermodel.
/r/seduction16/08/21 05:39 PM
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Yeah a miss universe would be a 9 or a 10, as it's extremely hard to meet & date one.
/r/seduction16/08/21 12:49 PM
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Haha you're the loser commenting, I'm out there gaming and contributing to the community.
/r/seduction16/08/21 12:44 PM
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Not about looks, but SMV. You can have skinny 6s and curvy 6s. But they're just as hard/easy to pick up.
/r/seduction15/08/21 08:48 PM
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Yep that's what the guide says. An 8 can be seens as a 9 or a 10. HOWEVER, picking up the the club hostess is objectively easier than picking up a famous model or celebrity Also, the guide is not for beauty but for SMV - sexual market value.
/r/seduction15/08/21 08:47 PM
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PS: Like I said, I've been gaming for 10+ years and will be the first to admit that 90% of my lays are with 6s and 7s (even though some of them are very attractive to me).
/r/seduction15/08/21 07:05 PM
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Looks wise, I agree (I personally don't find Scarlet Johanson that beautiful and prefer fitness models) But status wise, 9s only bang local celebrities or high status guys, and 10s only bang the top tier males (famous + wealthy) So when a PUA says 'I banged a 10', maybe that's his personal 10 in terms of appearance - but objectively she's an 8 so he's not competing against A-list celebrities.
/r/seduction15/08/21 07:00 PM
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'Any advice for a guy throwing his first punch at a boxing class?' Yeah, just do it.. then do it again thousands of times until you're good. Don't think in terms of your first approach; focus on getting to your first 100 approaches.
/r/seduction28/07/21 05:19 PM
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What you're referring to is a situational opener. Yes, they work well. Indirect openers also work very well and don't require a specific situation. Direct openers ALSO work well, but not in all scenarios. Bottomline: study openers and learn how to open in any situation.
/r/seduction15/07/21 02:20 AM
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TODD V DATING on youtube
/r/seduction11/07/21 12:02 AM
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ONLY include photos of: . Sports . Parties . Girls + friends . Crazy trips . Well dressed . Fun but not a clown . Danger (motorcycles, shooting, fighting, etc) . Skills (playing instruments, backflips, etc) . Success (cars, penthouse, hotel, expensive drinks) . Eventual cute side (puppies, young nephew, etc) ++ Get rid of all the bad photos Don't have the nice guy smile... alternate between smirk, laugh or serious/angry. Always edit your photos on lightroom to make them look amazing. if you can,…
/r/seduction10/07/21 04:17 PM
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Having the girl follow you on instagram (and having a kickass profile) then sending a few DMs is much better than just texting. I made my ig so bad ass that it practically gets me girls with zero effort (100% recommend you put effort into this) Having said that, here are some of my keys for text game: . Make her wait for your replies . Don't reply to EVERY SINGLE message she sends, just some of them . Don't text too much . Voice messages are much better than text . Every now and then just send p…
/r/seduction07/07/21 01:41 AM
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I know exactly what you mean. Think about it carefully, because it COULD BE a defense mechanism to avoid being rejected (fear). If you honestly think you're better than those girls, then approaching them should be effortless. Do you find it hard going to to a homeless person and giving them some money? Nah, it's easy because you know they'll appreciate your gesture and thank you for it. If you're God's gift to women, then you approach with the same ease. You know you'll make their days better. N…
/r/seduction03/07/21 12:44 PM
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They might. So what? Are you afraid of offending some random strangers while you're legitimately trying to meet people and make connections? You're not going to rob or harm anyone. You're just a guy who wants to meet people, if they have a problem with that then too bad for them.
/r/seduction03/07/21 12:38 PM
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We're all afraid, but some of us choose to approach anyway. Fear is NOT an external factor that has power over you. It's just an emotion - and you're letting it control your behavior.
/r/seduction03/07/21 12:35 PM
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It's actually easier to approach 2-sets or 3-sets. I know this is old-school advice, but I suggest you read the Mystery Method and gain a better understanding of group dynamics. Cheers
/r/seduction02/07/21 11:38 AM
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This is the first time that I'm using the word Harem and being 100% clear about the situation. So let's see how that goes. Usually when I'm dating multiple girls I just say 'Yeah I had a long relationship before and that got boring, so right now I'm living the moment and spending time with people I like without labels or anything.' No, I do not make exclusivity part of deal - but what I've realized over the years is that, if you're fucking her good, women are not as interested in seeing other gu…
/r/seduction22/06/21 04:28 PM
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Yeah man I'll try to keep this updated. To be honest I'm curious as well, wanna see how this plays out. I've had multiple girls in various occasions, but they never knew for a fact that I was REALLY fucking other chicks. Like they knew I wasn't exclusive but it wasn't as clear as now.. like 'Yeah I'm fucking other chicks and you're in my harem'. Let's see how it goes
/r/seduction22/06/21 04:19 PM
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True, but she's now onboard. What was consuming all my time and energy was spinning those plates while not letting each girl know about the other ones. So when I wanted to go on a date I had to make excuses on why I couldn't see the other girls etc. Now that this 1st girl is fully aware of the situation, I'm HOPING things will be easier to manage. But you're right, maybe it doesn't solve my initial problem. Guess I'll find out soon
/r/seduction22/06/21 04:16 PM
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There's no 'shy person inside you'. You are that person, you are shy. And you're letting that behavior pattern stop you from achieving what you want. It's ok to be scared of talking to chicks, it is scary in the beginning. Do it anyway. I feel like you're hoping the shyness will go away and it will get easier to approach... but that will ONLY happen after you've approached A LOT. Yes it will be cringey, yes you will care, yes you will feel like shit for screwing up. So what? If you want it bad e…
/r/seduction17/06/21 05:27 PM
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Woke B.S. Modern men don't need to 'heal', we need to cultivate masculine energy. Go learn how to fight, start a business, rent a cabin in the woods and spend a few days there, learn how to shoot, approach women, do something challenging with your male friends, lift heavy weights, etc. The key to getting girls is NOT 'just being yourself', it's being a MAN. Women are biologically programmed to be attracted to HIGH-VALUE MEN. If you are one, you'll have girls. If you aren't, you won't. You can fa…
/r/seduction17/06/21 05:20 PM
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Hm I wouldn't say that makes them empty, I think that's just how some people are. I'll give you an example: I ONLY date girls who are physically fit - and I mean FIT (visible abs, sometimes even bodybuilders and crossfit athletes). Now, most guys don't care THAT much about a girl's body, as long as she's reasonably fit/thin. In fact my male friends usually think the chicks I date are too fit for them, as they prefer more 'meat'. Does that make me empty? Not really, just a personal preference. In…
/r/seduction17/06/21 12:18 PM
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Looks do help, but in most cases it's a 'bonus'. Yes, there are some chicks who care A LOT about your looks - but not the majority of them. In general, any girl a handsome guy can get, he could also get if he wasn't handsome (considering same level of game, status, etc) - if would just be a bit harder. I have ugly friends who get loads of girls, handsome friends who get loads of girls, ugly friends who never get laid, handsome friends who never get laid. Don't worry too much about it, look your …
/r/seduction16/06/21 11:59 AM
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This is gold, thanks. Will do!
/r/seduction16/06/21 11:48 AM
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This is the kind of answer I was looking for. Helps a lots, thanks mate. Yeah I feel like sometimes I'm afraid of hurting them too much if they know of all the details, but maybe that's bluepill conditioning from ages ago. Right now they all know I'm not exclusive, but I don't say 'Can't see you because I'm with another chick'. Last Sunday was the perfect example. I invited GIRL 1 to spend the day with me, and then GIRL 2 messaged me because she wanted to see me. I told her I was with friends...…
/r/seduction15/06/21 09:37 PM
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Yeah that would work, but I want a harem.
/r/seduction15/06/21 09:31 PM
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HAHAHAHA laughed hard at this
/r/seduction15/06/21 09:31 PM
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Multiple girls per week is NOT the same as multiple girlfriends. Anyone can bang heaps of girls, but it's RARE to see a man with a harem (precisely because it's much harder to pull off). I appreciate you're trying to help, but it doesn't look like you have the answer to my question. I'll wait for other people to respond.
/r/seduction15/06/21 07:30 PM
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Yeah a mouth guard helps a lot. Also you shouldn't be taking hard hits to the face for at least 6-12 months (if it's a decent gym). Beginners should not be getting seriously hurt, you just need to feel the heat and work on your reflexes/moves. Believe me, even light punches to the face will wake up the warrior in you without any real damage. In most good gyms you'll be doing mostly shadowboxing & bag/pad work for the first 3-6 months, coupled with light sparring as you start internalizing the mo…
/r/seduction15/06/21 07:25 PM
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If you have absolutely no idea what to say, read Mystery Method to get an overview of what the interaction should look like - phase by phase. It doesn't need to be as rigid as it says in the book, but the general rules still apply: - Interaction starts - You demonstrate value - She demonstrates interest - You qualify her - She passes your tests - You demonstrate interest etc
/r/seduction15/06/21 06:42 PM
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Brother, I get the idea. It is simple. However if you read the second paragraph you'll understand the core of my problem. I could say: 'Can't see you this week, too busy', but they would inevitably see my Instagram stories where I'm going out, having fun etc which shows I'm not actually busy - just hanging out with other people (even though I NEVER show my girls on social media). That's why I'm asking other guys who have the experience of dating multiple girlfriends for some insights on how to m…
/r/seduction15/06/21 06:40 PM
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Fair question, as nowadays in most big cities approaching IS seen as creepy (unless you're clearly high value). You'll probably be creepy in the first couple dozen (maybe hundred) approaches, and as you develop social accumen you'll learn what is cool and what is not. If you want to play it safe, just don't get too close or touch them as you're still learning the limits of what's acceptable by social norms. Also don't comment on their bodies. As boring as it is, I have to recommend indirect/situ…
/r/seduction15/06/21 06:05 PM
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The fact that you think those are the only options are enough proof that you don't have the knowledge/experience to help me with this particular question. No need to continue this thread, though - as it's not productive. Thanks for trying to help
/r/seduction15/06/21 06:01 PM
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My easy go-to move when I want to add a flirty vibe is to challenge the girl (even if she's saying something mundane). So she'll say: 'Yeah so I had ice cream yesterday'. And I'll reply in an obviously challenging tone: 'Ahhhh, so you had ice cream and didn't invite me you little snake.' or 'Ahhh so now you're having ice creams on tuesdays like a teenager' Whatever, you get the idea. The reason this works is because it completely changes the tone of the conversation and adds humour, teasing, and…
/r/seduction15/06/21 05:58 PM
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While it's not ideal, it's usually better than not approaching. If you are a beginner, then yes you should approach at any opportunity as it builds experience. Doesn't matter if it hooks or not. If you're advanced, maybe you could've thought of a way to approach that didn't look desperate OR you could just move on with your day as you'll always find new girls to approach. To be 100% honest, most of the time I don't approach - as I currently have more women in my life than I can handle. But whene…
/r/seduction15/06/21 05:51 PM
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Hey mate, if you have nothing constructive to say it's usually better to stay quiet. You've shared your opinion, I didn't find it useful. That's all, don't act butthurt. Also, facepalms are for girls.
/r/seduction15/06/21 05:29 PM
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Take experimental classes in all of those martial arts and you'll feel the difference. Punching and kicking requires high levels of aggressiveness, which is good for the modern man. With Jiu Jitsu there's a lot of technique and strategy involved. You have time to think before you act, which makes it less aggressive and instinctive. Don't take me wrong, BJJ is great and you'll get strong and dangerous... But as a man you need to learn how to punch/take punches. Just my opinion, but do try them ou…
/r/seduction15/06/21 05:17 PM
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Haha yeah I do that too, it's funny. I actually have a Trello board with all my girls on it, labeled by escalation stage, and I send them 'value drops' every couple of days (photos, voice messages, me playing the guitar, etc). That's very effective, but I still struggle with the sheer amount of attention required by the main 'girlfriends'
/r/seduction15/06/21 05:02 PM
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That's not the solution, that is the question. How to KEEP multiple girlfriends, not have less girlfriends.
/r/seduction15/06/21 04:59 PM
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BJJ is cool, but I insist you try boxing or kickboxing. I've done years of Capoeira, Judo, Aikido and Muay Thai. They're all fun, but muay thai is a different experience. Something changes inside you when you punch someone in the face/get punched in the face. If you want to develop masculine aggressiveness, try boxing, kickboxing, muay thai, Tae Kwon do, etc.
/r/seduction15/06/21 04:58 PM
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Yeah I know some guys don't like it, but personally I really enjoy the girlfriend experience. I have several plates that I would never take to the movies or restaurants... we stay home, order food and fuck. But I have a lot of fun taking some of my girls hiking, watching the sunset, a weekend at the beach, eating in cool restaurants, hanging out with friends, etc. For many years I had a great girlfriend I could do all those things with, and now that I'm single I do miss female company for some o…
/r/seduction15/06/21 03:57 PM
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Interesting line of thought. Now that I think about it, they only leave if they see themselves as a girlfriend and then I ghost them. Casual girls still answer booty calls after many months . I'm guessing that's because my 'girlfriends' are not seeing other guys while dating me, and eventually they get lonely and just go out with other dudes (which to them feels like a break up/moving on). Casual flings probably keep dating other guys while fucking me since they know it's nothing serious, so for…
/r/seduction15/06/21 03:52 PM
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Don't wait until you gain another gram. Practice game like crazy because it pays off immensely.
/r/seduction15/06/21 03:48 PM
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Thanks for the input. Last paragraph is where it's at. I'm fucking several girls and have many fwbs, but my question is specifically about multiple 'girlfriends' that I can take to the movies, travel with, etc. In my experience, if I don't see a girl for more than one month they usually start dating someone else and/or it just fizzles out. There are exceptions, but in general they require constant attention.
/r/seduction15/06/21 02:06 PM
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In terms of attractiveness: Athletic > Jacked > Average > Skinny > Chubby > Fat In general terms you can get laid at any body type, but the quantity, quality and difficulty will vary. So yeah, work on your physique... but also work on your game right now and don't wait until you're bigger.
/r/seduction15/06/21 02:02 PM
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Yep, the exact same thing used to happen to me all the time. It's freaking annoying. Just so you know, this is performance anxiety. Easy way to overcome it is to take control of the frame and take things step by step. Eg: she invites you to come over. You mentally decide that you'll go but you will ONLY make out - no sex. If during the date you feel OK, then have sex. If you're feeling sick, just pretend you got a text message from a friend and say: 'hey I gotta go... kinda urgent. But will call…
/r/seduction15/06/21 01:53 PM
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I have the exact same experience. 2 is totally doable, 3 is a lot of work, and 4 is CHAOS (never had more than 4 ltrs and wouldn't even know where to start). I'm on the verge of dumping one of them and just keeping my 2 favorite ones, but I'm sure there must be a way to manage multiple girlfriends... hoping someone here can help
/r/seduction15/06/21 01:41 PM
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Each level has its own challenges! Getting just one girl used to be extremely hard for me 10 years ago. The game never gets easy, because as you get better the levels get harder. It's like lifting weights.
/r/seduction15/06/21 01:38 PM
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Watch 'Super Seducer' gameplays on youtube. You'll learn what to say/not to say in a very entertaining way. Also stay close to high-value groups of men and women and try to listen to their conversations. Canned material could work as a crutch for now, but ideally you just need to watch high value men and women interacting so you learn what it looks/sounds like.
/r/seduction15/06/21 12:50 PM
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Not true as in the early stages of the interaction the man is responsible for most of the work. She'll start contributing more after she realizes you're a high value man.
/r/seduction15/06/21 12:47 PM
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The fake smiling is a defense mechanism (an unconscious one). Start taking martial arts classes. Preferably boxing or kickboxing/muay thai (stay away from less aggressive ones such as aikido, capoeira, etc). It will make you less eager to please others + build the confidence that, if shit goes down, you can protect yourself. You don't need years of practice, I guarantee you'll feel the difference after a few classes.
/r/seduction15/06/21 12:45 PM
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Either that or just go by yourself and make friends
/r/seduction27/10/19 12:02 AM
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If she doesn't show up, you don't message her. Wait a day and then reengage, but don't mention the fact she didn't go to the bar. It's no big deal. You have fun all the time, you go out with lots of friends, you date lots of girls.
/r/seduction26/10/19 06:40 PM
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Strongly recommend you don't do it, considering what's happening in 2019. Girls can easily say you're recording them and you WILL be in trouble. Your wing can just pretend he doesn't know you and stay close as if just checking his phone.
/r/seduction25/10/19 03:08 AM
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Melbourne is a great city... except if you're single and looking for girls.
/r/seduction25/10/19 03:06 AM
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Also now that I'm reading the messages again, you're using haha too often (and she hasn't done it once) Watch out as hahas and lols are just a way to break tension and seek raport, which is not attractive behavior
/r/seduction25/10/19 03:05 AM
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Yeah make it a habit! But don't worry you didn't screw up, it was just ok.
/r/seduction25/10/19 03:02 AM
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Yep. Canada, UK and Australia are the worst places for day game in that respect. You can still get results, of course. But the chances of getting yourself in trouble are getting higher by the day.
/r/seduction25/10/19 01:22 AM
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Yeah that was good mate. Always agree when they say things like: 'not gonna happen.' By verbally agreeing you're giving her the plausible deniability that she needs in order to not feel like a slut. (And you also come across as non-needy) Verbally agree and keep escalating.
/r/seduction25/10/19 01:17 AM
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It's a bit pushy but within the limits of persistence. She's not going to think your super needy but she will feel like you have nothing else to do and she's your only plan. Instead of inviting her for drinks, a better move would've been: 'ok, I'm going to grab a drink at ____. If you wanna join me after work just text me to make sure I'm still there.' Telling girls what you're going to do and saying it's ok if they want to join is 10x stronger than directly asking them out.
/r/seduction25/10/19 01:11 AM
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Yeah it's good
/r/seduction25/10/19 01:04 AM
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I think they are wrong.
/r/seduction24/10/19 05:08 PM
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Start with the basics. Mystery Method, The Pickup Artist, The Natural Art of Seduction. Then a more advanced one is Revelation.
/r/seduction24/10/19 03:56 PM
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Last sentence was way too sexualized if you're not fucking this girl already. As a rule, don't sexualize over text - as it takes away her plausible deniability and hinders your chances of success.
/r/seduction23/10/19 02:46 AM
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Women can't make you happy, and game can't make you happy. The only thing that can make you happy is living a life in alignment with your ideals. If you're living that life, game really is just a game (I find it entertaining, if you don't that's ok).
/r/seduction22/10/19 09:05 PM
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Everyone will bang more girls with game, regardless if you're ugly or handsome. Also many excellent PUAs are objectively ugly as fuck.
/r/seduction22/10/19 03:58 PM
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Nah, hair is mostly genetics. I don't take care of my hair at all, wear hats/cap/beanie a lot. But for people who don't have a lot of hair, shaving your head can be a bad ass look. I wear more peacock at night, but for day game I always have my necklaces/bracelets/sunglasses/scarf and sometimes a cap or hat. I like to dress in a way that people instantly notice me in the crowd.
/r/seduction21/10/19 06:30 PM
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Nice, well fitting clothes and a few accessories. And a sexy edge. You should never dress in a way that will blend in, but at the same time you don't want to look like a clown. I always make sure there's something in my look that people can comment on (a necklace, a cool scarf, etc) Here are a few of my looks, and I always get compliments on my style. Use them for inspiration: https://imgur.com/a/vklce9r PS: You'll see that my face is just average, a bit geeky. I've been rated a 7 on r/rateme wi…
/r/seduction21/10/19 12:10 AM
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Yep, and I'm very good at it.
/r/seduction20/10/19 11:52 PM
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Not a pedo.
/r/seduction20/10/19 11:49 PM
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Too much online gaming, not enough real world experience. Go out and try things out mate, you'll be surprised.
/r/seduction20/10/19 12:45 PM
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Not when you're a hot chick and I'm a hot dude and we're on a nightclub.
/r/seduction19/10/19 06:47 PM
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8 years ago when I started coaching, I used to tell my students that it really didn't matter and no one would say a thing. And it was true, people would just mind their own businesses. In 2019 I think you're right to worry about that. People WILL interfere if they feel like you are mansplaining, touching her without consent, etc. Not everywhere, but in some SJW cities yes it is a thing. I've SEEN guys approaching and random people (white knights) jumping in to interfere, Gillete commercial style…
/r/seduction19/10/19 01:38 PM
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Very similar to the game plan I had for my students back when I used to coach. It works because of consistent progress. If you feel like you can go faster than this, do it. The key is that it should feel challenging, but not so much that you freeze and give up.
/r/seduction19/10/19 01:25 PM
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Thanks, I hate it when people just post a link and don't even say what it's about - and expect you to click and find out for yourself!
/r/TheRedPill19/10/19 02:44 AM
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It's called escalation. You start with SUBTLE touching, and then escalate. In case that was not clear, DON'T JUST BITE A WOMAN OUT OF THE BLUE! You WILL get in trouble. (To be honest that used to be my go-to cold approach in nightclubs, just bite a girl in the arm and smile. I'd get 50% brutal rejections like WTF?! and 50% girls biting me back playfully. But they were drunk and having fun with friends in a nightclub)
/r/seduction18/10/19 03:53 PM
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To tell if a girl is INTERESTED in you, watch for IOIs (indicators of interest). Eg: she laughs at your silly jokes, she asks questions about you, she listens as you speak, etc. Now that's INTEREST, not necessarily attraction. Friends do all those things even with no sexual attraction. The most reliable way to tell if she's ATTRACTED is by compliance to touch. If you touch her in the arm, does she feel uncomfortable or is it natural? If you touch her shoulders? If you massage her back? If you bi…
/r/seduction18/10/19 02:16 PM
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Thanks brother, will check out the sub. We've talked about it a couple of times, she is 100% against it.
/r/seduction17/10/19 07:19 PM
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Yep makes sense, but I always find myself wondering: 'Why do I need her permission to do something that doesn't affect her?' And that's where it gets tricky. Getting consent before you have sex with a woman is totally understandable, since you're going to be inside her body and if she doesn't want you to then it's wrong (it's called rape) Do you think it's wrong to masturbate without telling your woman? Nope, I think everyone agrees that's you can masturbate all you want and you don't need to te…
/r/seduction17/10/19 04:25 PM
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Thanks for sharing your experience mate. Just had a 1-hour phone call with a very good friend about this topic and he's in the exact same situation... maybe that's THE biggest challenge for guys in long-term relationships. Someone suggested having affairs while away on business trips, I think that's what most guys do. Problem is, even if odds are in you favor, you CAN STILL get caught - and it will be a very traumatic experience for the wife (and kids) as you mentioned. What really annoys me is …
/r/seduction17/10/19 04:02 PM
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This caught my attention: Which of the following words do you associate with “masculinity”? Vulnerable Men: 7%; Women 7% Dominant Men: 38%; Women: 52% . Sensitive Men: 14%; Women: 13% . Muscular Men: 52%; Women: 67% . Gentle Men: 20%; Women: 16% . Macho Men: 35%; Women: 49%
/r/TheRedPill17/10/19 12:06 PM
1

Modern as in: in the last 200,000 years. Men seek women for reproduction and women seek men for resources / survival. That is WHY we mate in the first place.
/r/MGTOW17/10/19 12:01 PM
4

I messaged him on Facebook, asked if he needed help and said we're here for him. He appreciated, said everything is ok for now, and thanked for the support.
/r/MGTOW17/10/19 11:50 AM
1

I know you're feeling as if you only had ONE CHANCE to seduce the girl. That's not how it works - specially with chicks you see often. As long as you don't screw up by being a TOTAL BETA in the first interaction, you'll have other opportunities. Also, how do you think this 'I fucked up' mindset is going to help you? It only adds unnecessary pressure. What you SHOULD be thinking instead is: 'Yeah, I spoke to her... now she knows who I am, and next time I see her I'll go and introduce myself.' Alw…
/r/seduction17/10/19 11:44 AM
19

Depends on the move bro. If its a tiny crimp, I'd say be very strategic about foot positioning so you're distributing your weight and not putting too much stress on your fingers. Now if it's a sloper, spread your fingers apart in order to cover more area - and position your body directly under the hold.
/r/seduction12/10/19 12:04 AM
1

A good slap on his hand would be more than enough.
/r/seduction11/10/19 11:03 PM
1

... and you're ok with that?
/r/MensRights11/10/19 04:47 PM
1

Whoa didn't know that. So maybe what we're seeing now with feminism, PC Culture, #metoo, etc is just a huge global-scale shit test. From now on it will be much harder for betas to pass on their genes... so it's either go alpha or go extinct.
/r/MensRights11/10/19 02:37 AM
-1

I'm not worried about me, I'm alpha and I'm socially savvy. But what about MILLIONS of young guys who just have no idea how to approach a woman? Are they supposed to just die a virgin? If that's natural selection... nature is a bitch.
/r/MensRights11/10/19 02:30 AM
6

Ok what else can we do? I'm legitimately trying to understand how we can deal with feminism in the real world. Media and law on their side, who's on our side? I'm sure there's something we can do, but what??
/r/MGTOW11/10/19 01:57 AM
1

remindme! 20 years
/r/seduction11/10/19 01:54 AM
3

I mean something we can do for HIM
/r/MensRights11/10/19 01:53 AM
1

I mean something we can do for HIM
/r/MensRights11/10/19 01:53 AM
26

Is there really nothing we can do about this?
/r/MensRights10/10/19 05:22 PM
1

If it was a black guy being shot by the police, the black community would protest. If it was a trans woman being told to use the men's toilet, the LGBT community would protest. But it's a middle-class white man. Who's going to protest?
/r/MGTOW10/10/19 05:18 PM
2

Yep, good for the immigrants who will populate the country and claim the land within the next 2 or 3 generations.
/r/seduction10/10/19 04:49 PM
8

When I say you could go to jail for being a PUA, people here think I'm exaggerating. There IS a war against men going on. Wake up folks.
/r/seduction10/10/19 03:55 PM
2

¯_(ヅ)_/¯
/r/seduction06/10/19 08:55 PM
2

Time to go back to watching dick gifs? Yep I visited your profile.
/r/seduction06/10/19 07:40 PM
-2

You know what else they hate? Guys who think women are incapable of speaking for themselves and need a white knight in a shiny armor to defend them.
/r/seduction06/10/19 07:23 PM
1

Talking to a stranger about their pants and asking them out is what could be considered 'not ok' by some of the brainwashed SJW that go to your uni (as you're clearly hitting on her). I'm talking about MAKING CONVERSATION. Getting to KNOW people, not just randomly asking chicks out just because they're pretty. There is a thing called Social Violation Theory, and you need to understand it. Basically some things are considered rude, and girls will avoid being rude unless they can get away with it.…
/r/seduction06/10/19 07:20 PM
6

Absolutely nothing you can do, as we live in a feminist society and if you even defend yourself a bit too forcefully you're fucked. I once heard a cop say: if a girl hits you and breaks her hand, you're the one being charged for assault. I've been slapped a couple of times (deserved most of them), and the best thing you can do is smile and leave. I know it's humiliating, but just do it before things get worse.
/r/seduction06/10/19 06:19 PM
1

You're being a bit oversensitive, maybe you should medidate ;) Just making a joke as I checked your profile. Didn't mean to offend you with my comment, but there ARE heaps of posters here coming up with excuses not to approach. Your account is new, so I assumed you're one of them. If you're not, then yeah my suggestion is to do exactly what you said: set aside 3h a week on a Saturday night and go out to game! It will pay off big time
/r/seduction06/10/19 06:09 PM
3

No need to yell, just gesticulate and say something. She will take off her headphones and say: 'sorry, what did you say?'
/r/seduction06/10/19 06:03 PM
4

Avoid tapping her on the shoulder. It's better to gesticulate like you need to ask her something. Point at her headphones and say something (she won't hear, so she will pause the song and take off the headphones and ask you: sorry what?) Then you open
/r/seduction06/10/19 06:01 PM
7

That's a good example of a bullshit excuse :) Being a sociable guy and befriending people at uni is never seen as negative. ONLY IF YOU DO IT WRONG! So my advice is: don't do direct game at uni. Just ask a question, make a comment, say something situational, get to know people. That is NOT a bad thing and PC culture is NOT against making friends.
/r/seduction06/10/19 05:59 PM
1

Some people are saying that's not the usual meaning of Frame. Whatever. The concept you present here has some truth in it. The fact that the Man is the Rock and the Woman is the Ocean (as David Deida explains in 'The Way of The Superior Man'. Best book I've read on masculinity AND on feminine energy too) And yes, if your frame is weaker than the girl's, you will lose her. Very feminine women usually seek very masculine men, because they are stronger rocks that can stand her strong emotional tsun…
/r/seduction06/10/19 02:46 PM
4

You can't lead because you're afraid you'll make the wrong decision and people will blame you for it. You suggest a restaurant to go for dinner, the food sucks, people who trusted your decision will be frustrated. Yes, making decisions IS tough and it does involve risks. That's why most people are followers, not leaders. Followers just need to do what others tell them, then blame and complain if it's the wrong choice. Being a leader is about taking RESPONSIBILITY. Owning your choices. Being OK w…
/r/seduction06/10/19 01:42 PM
1

If you cant find time to game girls, how will you find time to date girls? I have to be 100% honest with you here: I don't believe the story in this post. I think you are just trying to find a valid excuse so you don't need to put in the hard work of learning game, approaching and being rejected. And if you really are so busy that you can't even go out once a week, my suggestion is to slow down and enjoy life a little bit.
/r/seduction06/10/19 01:34 PM
2

If that guy cant find time to game girls, how will he find time to date girls? I have to be 100% honest with you here: I don't believe the story in that post. I that guy is just trying to find a valid excuse so he doesn't need to put in the hard work of learning game, approaching and being rejected. And if he reallyis that busy that he can't even go out once a week, my suggestion is to slow down and enjoy life a little bit.
/r/seduction06/10/19 01:28 PM
1

I strongly recommend you study the Mystery Method in order to understand all the phases of the game and what to say/do in each phase.
/r/seduction05/10/19 08:37 PM
1

Didn't really understand your situation, but in.my opinion learning PUA is one of the best things a man can do.
/r/seduction05/10/19 08:33 PM
4

Because everyone has been telling you that cheating is a terrible thing, ever since you were a kid. In real life people don't always do the right thing, and they often do the wrong thing. It is what it is.
/r/seduction05/10/19 08:30 PM
1

Yes I see when women are giving IOIs to other guys, and it's SUPER RARE that the guy is a low value nerd as suggested in the post.
/r/seduction28/09/19 02:06 PM
2

Women are definitely attracted to me! But that's because I dress well, have strong body language, look good and communicate high value. Your post makes it look like ALL men have hot girls attracted to them, which is not true. Also why would a girl not show IOIs to a guy she's interested in? That makes no sense! They show IOIs UNCONSCIOUSLY, as a way to get the guy to notice them and improve her chances of mating with a high value man.
/r/seduction28/09/19 10:50 AM
2

I don't miss when that happens because I can read IOIs.
/r/seduction28/09/19 08:40 AM
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What a cute fairy tale. 'You're a low value guy with nothing going on for you and no game, but hot girls secretly lust for you.' That is not true and it's also misleading. Also, saying that 'you don't know until you approach' is the same as saying 'maybe there's a monster under your bed, you don't know until you check it' Women are attracted to high value guys, and they give Indicators Of Interest to make sure they notice. Yeah, if a girl is in your proximity, looking at you, with open body lang…
/r/seduction28/09/19 08:32 AM
0

Don't try to find a reasonable explanation. We're living in a war against men. We are the enemy. I'm not joking
/r/seduction28/09/19 08:30 AM
1

'...approached five girls between May 2016 and November 2018 in' (2 girls per year) 'The 17-year-old told jurors that the father-of-one called her “pretty” and made her feel “uncomfortable.”' (she's just a few months from turning 18) ... So you guys really aren't concerned that 5 girls can simply SAY they felt threatened and put a man in jail and ruin his life? Where's the proof? He has VIDEOS of him approaching, and it's obviously not harassment or anything. WTF? This is a seduction community, …
/r/seduction28/09/19 05:50 AM
0

So you think it's ok to arrest a man because he talked to a girl before asking for her ID?
/r/seduction28/09/19 02:22 AM
1

Glasses make you look smarter/intellectual. That can be good or bad: If you're a badass dude, then glasses will be a nice counterbalance to make you look tough yet smart. If you're a geeky dude, glasses will make you look even geekier and not sexy at all. I'm skinny and I look like a nice guy. Glasses usually make me look too soft and nerdy. So what I do is counterbalance it with some 'fuckboi/badass' elements (unshaven, trucker hat backwards or a beanie, leather jacket, denim or checkered shirt…
/r/seduction27/09/19 11:27 PM
2

If she doesn't think you are REPULSIVE (under 3/10 in looks), then you have a shot. If you ARE repulsive, the I'd say do your BEST to look better but also work on being successful, rich, famous, powerful, etc. UGLY guys are rare. Most 'ugly' guys could easily become a 7 if they learned how to dress, style their hair, take care of their skin, work out, etc.
/r/seduction27/09/19 11:05 AM
1

If that belief system is serving you... then keep it up. Not how it works in my life, though.
/r/seduction26/09/19 09:33 PM
1

Exhibit A: https://imgur.com/a/QZUO8GH
/r/seduction26/09/19 08:34 PM
1

It's a gallery on imgur. Check all the images.
/r/seduction26/09/19 08:33 PM
1

Women do NOT feel attraction the same way that we do. It's time everyone here understands that and stop with this bullshit about instant physical attraction being a prerequisite for seduction. Simple way to prove that: would you ever date an ugly girl just because she's in a band? No you wouldn't. Hot girls date ugly rockstars ALL THE TIME. Of course girls like pretty guys, but they WILL date an ugly guy if his value is much higher than hers.
/r/seduction26/09/19 08:04 PM
1

Strongly disagree, if game could only get you the 'yes girls' then it wouldn't be a thing... it'd be just 'approach and be yourself'. We know that's what extroverted betas do, and it works only to some extent (ie girls that are less attractive than yourself). If you think about it, you only need game if you want to bang women who are out of your league. Yes, I've closed many many girls who didn't like me at first and wanted me to leave. Those are the girls you can ONLY get by using game. I clear…
/r/seduction26/09/19 11:18 AM
1

Seduction is the game. You need to learn how it works. From the opener to attraction to comfort building to connection to sex and everything in between. Mystery Method IS a good start, but don't stop there. Also yes it takes years to reach MASTERY, but you'll be getting girls in weeks/months. Read the books, watch the videos, and PRACTICE. And drop that bullshit story that it's all about looks. That's just not true.
/r/seduction25/09/19 05:06 PM
2

This. Also, if it's something you can't change (like the color of your skin), then don't waste 1 second thinking about it. Learn game, build an incredibly lifestyle, and you won't have to worry about women.
/r/seduction25/09/19 03:03 PM
1

Let's agree to disagree. Indirect game does NOT require the girl to be instantly attracted to you.
/r/seduction25/09/19 11:27 AM
1

No man, trust me. I've been in the game for 10 years, have hundreds of closes under my belt. It's obviously nice if she likes you at first, but it's NOT a prerequisite for scoring the girl. More than once I've closed girls who opened up being mad at me for stuff (spilling drinks on them, making out with her friends etc)
/r/seduction25/09/19 11:03 AM
1

1% improvement every day = 37x more results in 1 year. Sounds about right. If you do nothing, you'll sleep with 1 girl a year (average beta). If you commit to game, you'll be sleeping with 3 girls a month by this time next year. Doable, if you put in the work!
/r/seduction25/09/19 10:57 AM
1

not true, attraction does NOT work the same in men and women. That misconception will fuck your game.
/r/seduction24/09/19 06:36 PM
1

Here it is https://drive.google.com/open?id=1eOeVj3zcSkhZ4jpyLKV3zAhNrkKHxsgA
/r/seduction24/09/19 06:33 PM
1

1 tip for you is start approaching many girls every day. Then you MIGHT have a chance with this one. If this is the only girl you approach in a long time, there's a 95% chance you'll blow it. Now regarding the actual approach... just be talkative and make a joke about her, don't try to seduce her. As for the close, go for instagram. She'll see your recent pics/stories and that's how you can convey some value (PS: have cool pics). And drop that 'I don't want to miss this one' mentality. That will…
/r/seduction24/09/19 12:27 PM
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True. Let's put it another way: look your best - then forget a about looks. There's only so much you can do to improve your looks. By all means, do that. And then stop thinking about whether looks matter or not, because there's nothing else you can do about it. I mean if you're short, does it make sense to create a post asking: do chicks dig short guys? WTF? Does it matter? You're short, period. Look your best, develop solid game and that's it. Worrying about things you can't change is just a de…
/r/seduction24/09/19 12:10 PM
1

Another EXCELLENT one is Revelation by Lovedrop/Mystery. They have this concept called The Ghost and The Flame, or the zen of cool.
/r/seduction22/09/19 08:20 PM
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Nope. I think I have the pdf on my PC, will see if I can find it.
/r/seduction22/09/19 06:39 PM
1

Conversational Jujitsu - Juggler
/r/seduction22/09/19 05:07 PM
4

Sao Paulo, Brazil
/r/seduction21/09/19 10:19 PM
0

Yeah like this guy: https://healthyceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Tom-Hiddleston-chest.jpg Super muscular and ripped, that's why women love him. /not ... I'm not saying they don't like fit guys, but it's not nearly as important as you think. You can date tons of hot girls having an average body. If you're super skinny or very fat it will be much harder, but an average healthy body is good enough for most chicks to fuck you. 100% agree that guys should exercise and eat right, but it will NO…
/r/seduction21/09/19 05:05 PM
1

Kind of a long post but all beginners should read.
/r/seduction19/09/19 11:26 AM
1

Yep he's in denial. Most people are like that.
/r/seduction19/09/19 11:22 AM
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WELL DONE on approaching. Way to go. Work on your openers, though. You will have a much higher success rate with indirect approaches. We have no idea whether she has a boyfriend or not. That is often the most polite way of rejecting a guy.
/r/seduction18/09/19 10:07 PM
2

The best book ever written about seduction. You can find the pdf for free
/r/seduction18/09/19 06:43 PM
1

Ok so start with the basics. Read the Mystery Method.
/r/seduction18/09/19 04:48 PM
1

What worked for me in the past is playing drinking games with them at my place. Another thing that has also worked for me is making a 'massage circle', where you start massaging one of the girls and tell her to massage the other one as she massages you. You can be talking about anything, and just playing this 'massage game' for a while then escalate from there.
/r/seduction18/09/19 01:02 PM
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Not the right answer. You screwed up with 'what if we go as friends', because now you're begging for her time and attention and she knows for sure you're into her. She is the one in control now. Next time a girl says 'it's not going to happen', immediately flip the script on her. whoa easy there... nothing personal I'm just not ready for anything serious right now. I was thinking a couple of drinks and good conversation. Does friday 8pm work for you?
/r/seduction18/09/19 12:53 PM
1

Always be escalating. If she's uncomfortable, go back a few steps, demonstrate disinterest, build more attraction, then start escalating again. If she's really not ok with you escalating, either friendzone her or just move on.
/r/seduction18/09/19 03:15 AM
1

Read a bit about text game, and do invite her to join you next time you're going out. Eg "I'm going to that new bar this friday to try their frozen margarita, wanna come?"
/r/seduction18/09/19 03:10 AM
3

100% right. Whenever my girlfriend starts throwing a tantrum or tries to make me feel guilty etc, I just ignore her or actually leave. She ALWAYS comes to me to apologize. PS: I only do it when she's treating me in a way that I don't want to be treated. If she's being respectful then I'm totally ok with us arguing.
/r/seduction18/09/19 02:59 AM
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Ignore her bio, that's just a beta bait. Cold DM'ing on instagram is a numbers game and to be honest doesn't work unless you have an amazing profile. If you want to do it, you can leave a comment on her stories that requires an answer (and hope she replies). I recently started a conversation with a super hot fitness girl on IG by replying to her story with a bit of a challenge/joke. She made a story about not liking coconut oil, and I replied saying that I'm calling fit patrol to report her and …
/r/seduction18/09/19 02:54 AM
1

Open at least 10 sets a week and befriend them. You don't have to try to seduce them if you don't want to (you should, though). You can just open, get them interested, be playful, tell some stories, say they're cool and get their numbers/instagram so you can invite them for a party you're organizing in a couple of weeks (no need to actually throw a party). Do this in a friendly way, just because you're a social guy, not as if you're trying to please them or get something. Then stay in touch thro…
/r/seduction18/09/19 02:34 AM
1

I was gonna say don't play her game, it's rarely the right thing to do. But it looks like it's too late for that.
/r/seduction18/09/19 02:28 AM
1

Real practice, thousands of sets.
/r/seduction17/09/19 11:54 AM
2

It's easier if you dance, but you don't have to.
/r/seduction17/09/19 11:22 AM
1

Not true. Read MM and practice in the real world. I'm leaving this thread, cheers mate.
/r/seduction17/09/19 11:21 AM
1

You're doing it as a way to convince yourself that you're a hopeless case so you don't need to do the hard work of learning game. You're only hopeless if you decide so. Otherwise go back to the basics, read Mystery Method, understand how the whole seduction process works, practice it a lot with hundreds of sets, and in 1-2 years you'll be picking up hot girls. GUARANTEED.
/r/seduction17/09/19 10:45 AM
2

Stop making this up and go study game and practice in real life. You're not doing yourself any good and you're also doing everyone here a disfavor. Learn a few books about game, go out, approach. Get rejected dozens of times, build a thicker skin, internalize the key concepts, develop solid game. Get laid often. That will change your life. Making stuff up on reddit won't. Just my 10 cents, do whatever you want.
/r/seduction17/09/19 03:34 AM
1

You're playing her game, she's the alpha in this interaction. Read about the concept of Frame. She should be playing YOUR game. Don't answer all of her questions, don't try to prove you're right, and make it look like she is chasing you. What you could've said when she asked your height: - I'm 4'7". Is that a problem? Or - not again.. you're the third girl to ask that this week. I'm (your real height) but you'll really have to step up your game. Tell me something crazy about you that not many pe…
/r/seduction17/09/19 03:23 AM
2

Great question. You an ask questions based on what you value on a woman. If she passes, you compliment her. If she doesn't, you 'punish' with disinterest. Eg: You: 'Do you smoke?' Her: Yeah You: really?...ok (show a bit of disinterest). You: Do you workout? Her: Yeah! I do crossfit. You: Awesome! I love girls who are into fitness. High five! You just scored 10 points with me ;) Another way is testing for compliance, such as escalating kino.
/r/seduction17/09/19 03:18 AM
2

Does she like you?
/r/seduction17/09/19 03:12 AM
1

Quick question: are you using direct openers?
/r/seduction17/09/19 03:10 AM
3

If you want 9s and 10s you'll need to get very successful or famous. If you want 7s and 8s, get very good at game, develop your social skills, exercise, dress sharp, and be sociable. You'll have plenty of options with cute girls.
/r/seduction17/09/19 03:06 AM
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You're not afraid of women. You're afraid of finding out that all your insecurities about yourself are real and you're in fact undesirable and not good enough. Every time you approach a woman, you're dealing with that fear. What if she rejects me? What if that's proof that I'm undesirable? That I'm not good enough? What if this single rejection means that NO WOMEN WILL EVER WANT ME? That's a scary thought, no wonder you're afraid. But you're forgetting the most important part - being desirable i…
/r/seduction17/09/19 02:59 AM
1

Not funny at all, it's really sad. Gods of biomechanics wanted it that way, though. All we can do is accept and use it in our favor. WOMEN: be as hot as you can (eat well, exercise, take care of your skin and hair, dress nice, etc), don't waste your prime years riding the cock carousel and instead find an high-value man with morals and ambition who is a bit older than yourself. Not easy, but when you do find him marry the guy and be a great wife/mom. It sounds too simplistic but I guarantee you'…
/r/seduction17/09/19 02:45 AM
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Here's another way to look at it: If you're a woman and you're ugly, you're screwed. You're NOT going to land a high-value man - and getting rich or famous will not change that fact. You're ugly, men don't want you, that's it. And if you're lucky to be pretty, you have from your early 20s to your late 30s (roughly 15 years) to do whatever you want and get away with it. The world is yours. Then you suddenly become invisible to men and no one even looks at you anymore. It's worse than death, becau…
/r/seduction17/09/19 01:02 AM
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A word of wisdom to beginners reading this: That's not how it works in real life. Go study/pratice game and learn how to consistently get girls. To the OP: If it's working for you... keep it up. It does sound made up, though. We'll never know.
/r/seduction16/09/19 02:35 PM
1

Agree with you. But he started by saying game is crap, and that's bad advice for beginners. Also it's his first post and his account is 3 days old, so it does trigger my troll alert.
/r/seduction16/09/19 10:49 AM
1

Eye contact and confidence are extremely important, but it does not replace learning game (as he suggests).
/r/seduction16/09/19 01:19 AM
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Not how it works in the real world. In my opinion you're deluding yourself (and others) when you could be using that time to work on your game and actually get results. You're free to do whatever you want, though.
/r/seduction15/09/19 09:50 PM
-1

Yep my attitude is that meeting me is 100x better than listening to music. Maybe you don't think too highly of yourself, but I do.
/r/seduction15/09/19 12:26 PM
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Don't believe A WORD from that post. That's called white knight virtue signaling and the ONLY reason he posted that is to get sympathy from females. Meeting a high-value man is one of the top priorities for a woman (in the same sense that meeting great girls is top priority for guys). If you interrupt her shitty music and shitty book and start a great interaction, she'll be legitimately excited about meeting a super cool dude. I bet the guy from the post also believes when women tell him they on…
/r/seduction14/09/19 01:20 PM
4

At this day and age, I wouldn't. Anything goes wrong and you're fucked. Not saying you shouldn't, but it IS risky. Plenty of hot women around you, I suggest not mixing business with dating.
/r/seduction12/09/19 04:41 PM
0

I had the same problem when I was starting out. So I got a job as a scouter for a modeling agency just so I could have an 'excuse' to approach super hot women. I HAD to get 30 numbers a day from 8s, 9s and 10s only. Not easy, hot girls are rare! In 1 month I was completely comfortable around hot chicks - even ended up making out with my boss, the agency's manager (who was also a model). Not saying you should do the same, but the lesson here is: you need to get used to it. Don't worry, keep appro…
/r/seduction12/09/19 04:37 PM
3

This. Also want to remind you that the key concept is PHYSICAL (KINO) ESCALATION. If you're not touching her throughout the interaction, going for the kiss will be very awkward.
/r/seduction12/09/19 04:26 PM
5

Excellent post! 100% agree
/r/seduction12/09/19 04:23 PM
2

Great job, that's how it's done!
/r/seduction12/09/19 01:33 PM
4

¯_(ツ)_/¯
/r/seduction12/09/19 11:38 AM
2

Nope! Starts with light 'unintentional' touches in the shoulder. Read it!
/r/seduction12/09/19 11:36 AM
2

Read the Mystert Method and also google 'PUA Routines'
/r/seduction12/09/19 11:35 AM
3

I use the Vin DiCarlo escalation ladder. Google it, it will change the game for you.
/r/seduction11/09/19 11:54 PM
2

Thanks! Heard a friend using that joke many years ago and decided to steal it ;)
/r/seduction11/09/19 10:46 PM
7

Yeah it becomes natural. Well done on the pickup
/r/seduction11/09/19 10:39 PM
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I believe you should ALWAYS be talking to people everywhere you go. You should ALWAYS be 'opening' as in starting conversations. Doesn't matter if it's old people, ugly chicks, guys, etc. Being a social/talkative person make your life so much easier not just in dating but also business, social life, etc. If the ONLY person you'll approach the whole week is a hot girl, you'll probably screw up. If you have hundreds of interactions every week, then when you're talking to a hot girl it's no big dea…
/r/seduction11/09/19 06:39 PM
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Since I've done this thousands and thousands of times, it was 100% improvised. In the early days (first 1-2 years of pickup) then YES I was following a script (called a routine stack).
/r/seduction11/09/19 06:35 PM
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no idea what that means
/r/seduction11/09/19 06:34 PM
2

Nope, disagree 100%. Game > Looks.
/r/seduction11/09/19 06:33 PM
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Hard to explain with text. I said it very authoritatively yet obviously joking, as if I was pretending to be one of those people who think they're too important (but in reality I'm not). Does it make sense?
/r/seduction11/09/19 06:33 PM
15

hahaha I'd love to see Samsung advertising their phone with that. 'S10+. Better camera, better nudes. And 2x Optical Zoom For the Less Fortunate.'
/r/seduction11/09/19 05:10 PM
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Thanks! Grandiosity complex is something I play with often, and girls love it.
/r/seduction11/09/19 04:52 PM
1

Read the Mystery Method and you'll understand exactly how to open, capture her interest, trigger attraction, build comfort, create a connection, escalate, bounce locations, seal the deal, etc. It's THE manual of seduction. A bit outdated? Perhaps. Still works, though.
/r/seduction11/09/19 04:01 PM
1

Logic NEVER applies to seduction.
/r/seduction06/09/19 04:49 PM
3

Learning from more experienced people is always a good idea. If you have the money, why not? Just make sure you choose a coach who can actually get results. Another option is finding wingmen who can go out with you and you can all practice together. It makes it way more fun and getting feedback is the best way to identify your weaknesses. Ideally do both. Get help from more experienced guys AND find some wingmen.
/r/seduction05/09/19 04:20 PM
9

Great meeting you guys but I gotta go now.
/r/seduction05/09/19 04:17 PM
1

Excellent post.
/r/seduction05/09/19 12:45 PM
1

Demonstration of High Value. Read the Mystery Method
/r/seduction04/09/19 07:20 PM
3

Don't buy this rape culture metoo bullshit.
/r/seduction02/09/19 04:12 PM
0

Practice. I recommend you read the Mystery Method and practice it like crazy. Learn how to read IOIs, understand kino escalation, compliance tests, etc.
/r/seduction02/09/19 04:11 PM
3

Feminism is a shit test.
/r/seduction02/09/19 12:24 PM
1

Gesticulate for them to roll down the windows as if I was going to ask for directions, then: "Hey :) Would love to meet you, give me your number and I'll message you later. Quick! we don't have much time!" It's hit or miss, but you have nothing to lose. I'll be honest - don't expect high success rates, but it does work sometimes. In my opinion it's worth the shot. Also it works better if there are other girls in her car (she is not alone). Her friends will be giggly and tell her to do it just fo…
/r/seduction01/09/19 12:13 PM
2

I've gotten many numbers from girls in cars next to me while we wait for the traffic lights to go green. Never on the freeway, though!!
/r/seduction30/08/19 10:27 AM
1

You are proving my point. If you're the kind of guy who grabs her waist, kiss her and slap her butt, you're probably teasing her sexually all the time - that's why she's ready for sex. Also, yep something is wrong in the relationship - and that's what I explained. There's too much comfort and routine, but no sexual tension and flirting.
/r/seduction30/08/19 10:12 AM
2

That's a good response, it will work fine! But if you can be more playful, that's even better.
/r/seduction30/08/19 10:06 AM
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Here's what she really wants to know: Are you a player or are you a loser? You don't want to be seen as a player OR a loser. You want to be seen as a naturally confident guy who just acts out of spontaneity. You don't go out with the intent of picking up chicks, it just happened. It's no big deal to you either. Women are a part of your life, you're used to it. So the best responses would just shrug off her question as it's no big deal, ignore the hoop (player or loser?), and set the new frame. S…
/r/seduction30/08/19 01:56 AM
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Men get ready for sex in 30 seconds, women need a couple of HOURS. If you're not seducing your girl hours before you want to have sex, it's not going to happen (with a few exceptions once or twice a month - usually during her fertile period) I mean a man could be mowing the lawn on a sunday morning, and if a girl says: 'let's have sex?' He's 100% ready for it. For women it doesn't work like that. Think about new relationships or casual hookups: You're flirting with her all the time, never talkin…
/r/seduction30/08/19 01:38 AM
4

Matthew Hussey. Wrote the book 'Get the Guy' and teaches dating for women.
/r/seduction29/08/19 03:43 PM
2

If you like to be dominant, be dominant. And if the girl doesn't want to play along, she's not the girl for you. I mean we all have fetishes. It's ok. I only like athletic girls, so fat girls don't attract me at all (same for skinny girls who have no muscles, are not fit). Because of that, I don't date those girls. I only date fit, sporty girls. Nothing wrong with that. If it's something that really matters to you, honor it.
/r/seduction26/08/19 01:24 PM
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She messaged you first? That's good. I liked your first message. Then you asked her a silly question about work, with a girly emoji. That was way too friendly in my opinion Anyway, keep it interesting, add some tension, throw dhvs and get her to prove herself to you.
/r/seduction26/08/19 12:20 PM
1

Ok
/r/seduction24/08/19 06:49 PM
1

Ok.
/r/seduction24/08/19 04:03 AM
1

They don't chase low value men, that's for sure.
/r/seduction24/08/19 04:03 AM
3

HAHAHA Yep. But that gives her plausible deniability. It's a man's job to make sure a woman never feels like a slut.
/r/seduction23/08/19 06:30 PM
1

Yeah man life is bittersweet, if you think about it. But it's a fucking great adventure.
/r/seduction23/08/19 06:29 PM
2

Threat her as if she was your little sister. I know it sounds really weird, but it works.
/r/seduction23/08/19 06:28 PM
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The WORST thing in the world is living with regret. So whatever you decide, make peace with your decision.
/r/seduction23/08/19 05:06 PM
1

The difference is you didn't get dumped. You chose to dump her, even though the relationship was great, because you wanted to be with other girls. Being dumped sucks, but it wasn't your choice. So you can't regret it.
/r/seduction23/08/19 05:04 PM
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Well I did the opposite and had sex with lots and lots of girls before deciding to settle down in a LTR. Best decision of my life. I do think it's important for a man to be with many girls before choosing a life partner. There are exceptions, but I'd say that it increases your chances of really being able to commit and not feel like you're missing out. If I were you, I'd sit down quietly to mediate for a while and ponder these 2 cenarios: 1 - You're 80 years old. You're still married to your cur…
/r/seduction23/08/19 03:05 PM
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Nope, it wasn't good. You were too reactive. You played all your cards and gave away any power you had in the interaction. Sorry to say that, but you lost this one. Don't talk to her again as you would need to apologize and that's not the right thing to do here. Move on. Next time this happens with another girl, always frame as if she got it all wrong and you had no intention of dating her whatsoever. Then she feels awkward for assuming that. "Whoa wait a minute... what do you think this is? I m…
/r/seduction23/08/19 02:54 PM
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Yeah never frame like 'We are going there to have sex' There's a thing called Plausible Deniability, and it's super important for chicks. You need a very non-sexual reason to go to the sex location (your house or theirs). Maybe you just need to take a pee, or you want to show her your dog, whatever. When she's telling her friends about last night, she'll say: 'oh yeah he showed me his adorable puppy, then one thing lead to another...' If you don't create plausible deniability, she feels like 'I …
/r/seduction23/08/19 02:47 PM
1

There is no ONE best opener. Most opinion openers work well.
/r/seduction23/08/19 03:49 AM
1

Most girls these days are self-absorbed feminists who are addicted to instagram, and are not interested in checking guys out. It wasn't like that 10 years ago. Now if you want IOIs, you need to earn them (as in being more interesting than her instagram feed). Dress like a rockstar, talk to everyone, speak loudly, work on your posture and body language, and most importantly: open girls. You want IOIs for ego validation, but if you open them you'll actually feel much better about yourself. I know …
/r/seduction23/08/19 03:23 AM
1

Mystery Method.
/r/seduction23/08/19 03:12 AM
1

You are trying to be funny, when you should try to show high-value. Funny is ok. Risk taker, successful, leader of men, with rich social life is better. The way it is now, you will get matches with girls 7 and below. If you want the 8s, 9s and 10s you gotta show you're a 10.
/r/seduction23/08/19 03:09 AM
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Hot girl by herself usually is waiting for boyfriend. That's why you NEED to practice opening and gaming groups. (And why direct game will fail you)
/r/seduction23/08/19 03:05 AM
2

You're a legend. We'll make songs about you.
/r/seduction23/08/19 02:08 AM
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hahaha that was funny. Yeah man, rock climbing chicks are THE BEST. Since nobody knows you there, it's a great opportunity to create a new image of yourself as a social, talkative, confident guy. The moment you step inside, talk to everyone, comment on their projects, ask for some betas (climbing betas, not beta males), etc. Make it your mission to be the most sociable guy on the gym. That's what I do at the gym I go to, and I feel like a superstar every time I go there. Everyone knows me and li…
/r/seduction22/08/19 06:18 PM
1

Nope, you can be social without conveying too much interest. I'm guessing that's not what he did, though.
/r/seduction22/08/19 04:44 PM
1

Your lines are ok, that's not the problem. Probably the delivery. Keep practicing, it takes time.
/r/seduction22/08/19 04:27 PM
1

So you're saying girls only make friends or have conversations with guys who are their type? Because this is not how it works
/r/seduction22/08/19 04:25 PM
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It was all very natural, the key was a fun vibe, lots of energy and BT spikes. It was a 5-set of girls, at an indie rock club. I approached with high energy, made friends with all of them, was touching everyone and introducing them to some other friends I had at the club as they walked past us, doing silly dance moves with other girls from other sets, and basically being the life of the party. I created a shared frame with them that we were the group having the most fun at that club. Eventually …
/r/seduction22/08/19 03:07 PM
1

If he wasn't their type, but still a high value interesting guy, dont you think they'd have stayed and made friends with him? Forget about this 'not her type' thing, this is bullshit and completely irrelevant. Girls date guys who are not their type all the time. Anyway, game is welcomed everywhere. Lack of game, however causes awkward situations. PS: watch London daygame infield videos and you'll see that what you said about UK is just a false limiting belief.
/r/seduction22/08/19 02:44 PM
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Yep, former Venusian Arts coach here. I'm here to help others, not to tell cool stories. But if you're interested in stories, I could share a few :) MY STATS: Playing since 2009 Many thousands of sets (no idea how many) Hundreds of closes (no idea how many). Had a few threesomes and all kinds of crazy sexual experiences. Had 2 guys literally ON THEIR KNEES, in the middle of the nightclub, begging me to teach them how I was doing what I was doing (I was making out with 5 girls at the same time). …
/r/seduction22/08/19 01:46 PM
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Depends on how far in the interaction you are. A few possible replies (for different moments): . Thanks. Anyway... . You're the third girl to say that.. tonight. . Shh dont tell anyone . That's nonsense. Btw I'm thinking about flying to Paris tonight and sit on top of the eiffel tower, wanna come? We can throw some popcorn at tourists below. . Do you have a thing for him or what? Jesus, calm down woman. Anyway...
/r/seduction22/08/19 01:31 PM
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Yes opinion openers are unusual, that's why they work. Negging is an artform and takes a while to master them. Also in general only hot girls need negging. Girls are girls, UK or not. And they respond to high value. Here are a few possible reasons why you didn't hook those sets, hard to tell from just a few paragraphs: . Your body was facing them from the start . They didn't feel like you were about to leave . You negged to much and too early . You're speaking too fast . Your energy is much high…
/r/seduction22/08/19 11:52 AM
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MM works incredibly well, so I'm happy to see it's making a comeback here.
/r/seduction21/08/19 08:36 PM
1

What you're supposed to do is follow the M3 model, because it works. Understand each phase in depth, learn to transition from one phase to the next, calibrate IOIs with IODs, kino escalate consistently, and so on. I know you think you did everything right, but you didn't - or else she'd be interested in you. Even if she's not available or whatever, you would've sparked her interest. When a comedian tells a joke, he knows it's funny because thousands of people have laughed before. Yeah sure, mayb…
/r/seduction21/08/19 08:19 PM
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Just use whatever works for you. I'm 5'7", maybe a 7.5 in looks, skinny, and have pulled hundreds of girls (many of them way out of my league) with Mystery Method. I also use direct/natural game when I'm in loud nightclubs or festivals where the energy is really high - but other than that it's always MM.
/r/seduction21/08/19 02:18 PM
1

Read the Mystery Method to understand WHAT IS ATTRACTION, and how you can make girls attracted to you.
/r/seduction21/08/19 02:55 AM
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Read the Mystery Method. Written by the guy who taught Neil Strauss. Welcome to the game :)
/r/seduction21/08/19 02:52 AM
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Did she get the impression that you're about to leave? That's very important. Also did you root your opener? Were you kino escalating? Did you ask her to join you at the bar before she gave you IOIs? The best response to 'you're not my type' is 'whoa easy there. All I can promise is a couple of drinks and good conversation... dont get any crazy ideas' Still, you asked for too much too soon. If I had to guess, I'd say you telegraphed too much interest and didn't give her a chance to win you over.
/r/seduction20/08/19 09:34 PM
1

Human nature hasn't changed much in the last 200,000 years. So 20 years is NOTHING.
/r/seduction20/08/19 09:29 PM
1

When you say 'let her know your real intent', are you saying you'd open with: "You're hot and I want to fuck you"? No? Then you're also hiding your intent. And since you'll hide it anyway, better do it well.
/r/seduction20/08/19 09:14 PM
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MM works very well for me. If you're a tall, handsome, socially skilled guy, you can sleep with lots of girls even if you have no game (they'll even hit on you). I'd say the benefit of game is getting girls that are out of your league. If you're a 7, you can bang 5s and 6s with no game. Just say hi, small talk, be playful, close. If you want to bang a 9 or a 10, you'll need tight game. I like hot girls, so I've learned game.
/r/seduction20/08/19 03:19 PM
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On the contrary, the girls can't NOT feel attraction to a high-value male. Attraction is not a choice. Can a hot girl force you NOT to be attracted to her? Nope. You see high reproductive value, you're attracted. Girl sees high survival value, she is attracted. Game is a way to systematically convey high survival value - thus generating attraction.
/r/seduction20/08/19 02:43 PM
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"You're not my type, but we can be friends'' I can understand how this might be described by some as disqualifying the girl, but IMO this is disqualifying yourself as a potential suitor (you're not my type, so I'm not here to pick you up). Most seddit posters have lots of keyboard theory and zero real world experience. If you reveal your intent then yes you'll only get girls who like your looks. And you'll never get girls in groups, since her peers will immediately cockblock you if you telegraph…
/r/seduction20/08/19 02:36 PM
1

Yep multimillion dollar business. They are very good at what they do, and you can definitely learn a lot from them. Tyler and Julien are fucking legends, at least watch their free tours if you're not ready to invest money. Pure gold. And I agree that the darkside Julien era was the best.
/r/seduction20/08/19 11:39 AM
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DISQUALIFY MYSELF: Yes, in every set. It means showing you're not trying to pick her up. Should be done in the first 3 minutes. 'You and I would never get along' DISQUALIFYING THE GIRL??? The actual term is Qualifying, because you give her a chance to Qualify for you. This is Bait Hook Reel Release, should be done in A3 after you've already dropped DHVs and she's giving IOIs. BAIT: 'You look like the intelectual type. What do you do for work?' HER (HOOK): I'm a math teacher. REEL: 'Wow really? T…
/r/seduction20/08/19 11:35 AM
1

Yep Tinder still works well. Don't know about the others but would guess they also work. But you need to choose the right photos. 99% of guys have no idea how to build an attractive tinder profile.
/r/seduction20/08/19 02:20 AM
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Yep women will test you for dominance and value, even your own mom and sister. They obviously don't want to sleep with you, but they DO want to know if you're man enough to provide and protect them if necessary. If you can't handle them, you obviously can't handle real threats. That's all instinctive and happens on a subliminal level - but it's there. We're animals at our cores. My sister tests me for dominance ALL the time. And every time I outframe her, I can almost SEE the relief in her eyes …
/r/seduction20/08/19 02:12 AM
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That is NOT the definition of a shit test. A shit test is how women test a man for dominance and value.
/r/seduction20/08/19 02:04 AM
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Never ever ever ask a girl to explain what she said. Just interpret in any way you want and continue with the conversation. This thread is over. Wait a few days, send a bait message and see if she hooks.
/r/seduction20/08/19 02:01 AM
1

For a second I thought you were the one texting last, and I was like: "That mother fucker got tight game"
/r/seduction20/08/19 01:54 AM
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No probs. Escalate kino, bite her shoulder/ neck/cheeks, etc. Then go for the kiss
/r/seduction20/08/19 01:50 AM
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I've done it for a couple of years because I was practicing and also because it's a lot of fun. But now I've been in a relationship with an incredible woman for a while and have no plans of fucking other girls.
/r/seduction19/08/19 09:15 PM
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The lines come spontaneously from your frame/identity. When you actually believe girls want you, then you naturally interpret what they're saying as evidence of their interest. As you approach thousands of girls, kiss hundreds of them, fuck dozens a year, etc then you'll develop this sense of self-entitlement that in turn will attract even more women. Do practice some lines, but building experience is the key.
/r/seduction19/08/19 07:09 PM
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Her (shit test): 'I'm ok with going for drinks, but right now I'm not looking for anything more than just friends' You: 'Whoa easy there cougar... all I can promise is a couple of drinks and good conversation. You and I would never work.' You're intentionally misinterpreting as if she was hitting on you, and now you're the one throwing cold water on her.
/r/seduction19/08/19 06:31 PM
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Some people just spend too much time on reddit and not enough time outside. Anyway, glad to hear you're testing things out and getting results ;)
/r/seduction19/08/19 03:38 PM
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Intentionally misinterpret in your favor ​ Great post brother, thanks for sharing.
/r/seduction19/08/19 03:32 PM
1

Yes, I'd probably agree that 90% of the guys in this sub are virgins. But I AM a 'master PUA bro', used to coach for Venusian Arts, I have dated hundreds of women and I do get laid very often and very easily. And the fact that you're missing the power of that simple line just shows me you're probably in the 90% who don't get much pussy. Nothing wrong with that, but troll less and learn more - you'll have better results that way.
/r/seduction19/08/19 11:23 AM
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You're missing the big picture. This post is NOT about this interaction. I just used this screenshot to share with you all a good line that WORKS. I honestly don't give two flying fucks about this chick. This line IS incredibly good. Try it out and you'll see.
/r/seduction19/08/19 11:16 AM
1

Yep
/r/seduction19/08/19 02:58 AM
0

This is far from useless. It's a powerful way to give her a chance to hit on me. I use that line all the time both online and in person, and it works like magic. Give it a try. Most men never have women chasing them simply because they never give them a chance to do so. And yes, you obviously need to move the interaction forward. That's your job. But now that she has complied with my frame, picking her up will be incredibly easy.
/r/seduction19/08/19 02:57 AM
1

I'm a firm believer you should act like you're the coolest motherfucker in town. Takes a lot of inner game, but it pays off.
/r/seduction19/08/19 01:56 AM
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Post a screenshot so we can give feedback
/r/seduction19/08/19 01:48 AM
1

Photos are 100x more important than bios. Having said that, your bio should convey high value and ideally a disqualifier. This is working VERY well for me at the moment: In (name of city) for business, love meeting cool people here. If you never try, you'll never know. It's super simple, see if you can guess why it works...
/r/seduction19/08/19 01:46 AM
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Most men are dating women they're not very attracted to, they haven't had many partners, they need to act like wimps to avoid being dumped and they hate their lives. And of course there are also the naturals, who are alpha males and don't need game. But if you're not an alpha by nature/nurture, and you want to sleep with lots of girls and CHOOSE your wife, then yes you absolutely need to learn game.
/r/seduction19/08/19 01:33 AM
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It's counter productive because you're putting all your cards on the table. I'm not saying it will never work, but strategically (and statistically) speaking it's better to show disinterest instead of interest. The moment the girl knows that you want her, then she has all the power and she controls the interaction. Pickup is a lot like poker or chess. Yes, there are some bold moves that will work sometimes (and it looks cool) - but the pros rely on strategy.
/r/seduction19/08/19 01:23 AM
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It's counterproductive to check girls out too much before approaching. Especially if they're wearing revealing clothes. Mentioning their body on your approach is not recommended. I gotta admit, your post does sound like wishful thinking to me. But if you really think that the gym hottie is wiggling her ass for you and biting her lips while making eye contact, then by all means just go and say hi.
/r/seduction19/08/19 12:54 AM
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The key is ESCALATING, never asking for too much too soon. Eg: If you're talking to her and suddenly go for the kiss, it'll be weird and you will be rejected. But if you start touching her arms, then shoulders, then playing with her hands, then massaging her back, then biting her neck, then kissing her cheek... when you go for the kiss, it's pretty natural and smooth. If you escalate, you will NEVER be rejected - because you'll immediately notice when she doesn't comply with one step of your esc…
/r/seduction19/08/19 12:45 AM
1

Yes 100%.
/r/seduction17/08/19 01:36 PM
1

Pretty accurate.
/r/seduction17/08/19 01:35 PM
2

Nothing wrong with that!
/r/seduction16/08/19 08:47 PM
2

If you've been alone with her twice and didn't escalate physically, there's a 90% chance she already sees you as just a friend. It's easy to check her attraction levels, though. Just try to escalate and see how she reacts: Touch her shoulders when you speak, then thumbwrestle, then do a palm reading routine, then bite her arms, then have her piggyback you for a few seconds, then massage her shoulders as you take a break from hiking (and ask her to massage you), then smell her neck, then bite her…
/r/seduction16/08/19 10:51 AM
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Confused here. You said you're not trying to hook up with her? Then just be friends with her. You don't have to fuck every woman you meet. But don't be a beta orbiter!
/r/seduction16/08/19 02:45 AM
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Nope, you're doing what all guys do: seeking rapport and bringing no value whatsoever. I suggest you read some guides on Tinder game
/r/seduction15/08/19 03:24 AM
2

You can show up under the pretense that you went to buy something at another store, then drop by to say hi, get her buying temperature high again, and then close. PERFECT EXAMPLE Hey, you're here again. How predictable! I came to buy a present for a friend at _____(female clothing store) and though I'd drop by and say hi. You're not jealous that I'm buying from another store, are you? (now turn on your fake romantic voice like you're a beta male talking to an angry girlfriend) OMG you're so jeal…
/r/seduction14/08/19 10:37 PM
1

Exactly. In fact the mere fact that she says 'You're not fucking me tonight' is actually PROOF that she's thinking about it. She's doing you a favor in verbalizing it, because now she has plausible deniability and she can feel at ease going home with you since she explicitly said she won't fuck you.
/r/seduction14/08/19 10:22 PM
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The drink part is just a suggestion, but I'd definitely introduce another thread immediately as to not end the conversation in those terms. Say something interesting that will capture her attention and never talk about the friend zone thing again. EVEN BETTER: You could even forget about the whole age thing and reply with this instead: - 'whoa easy there cougar... all I can promise is a couple of drinks and good conversation, don't get any crazy ideas. Anyway...' [start new thread] (This is how …
/r/seduction14/08/19 10:12 PM
1

Rome wasn't built in a day. Read the MM and approach more.
/r/seduction14/08/19 05:49 PM
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'nah, you're not that old. 30 is fine, you look like you can still go out and have fun. anyway, have you ever tried black pepper gin & tonic?' (intentionally misinterpret what she said as she's apologizing for being too old and like SHE's afraid you'll not want her for being older. Also ignore the friend-zone bait)
/r/seduction14/08/19 05:34 PM
1

Yes exactly, you're a guy - that's why I think you should use it as an opener.
/r/seduction14/08/19 04:56 PM
1

Here's a link to the Mystery Method's pdf. 100% FREE, from my google drive. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1qZu4jrNIVfdCz4BSO7OewmKFXS0Nl0ob I'm not trying to sell you anything, my friend. I'm trying to help you claim your freedom and live a happy life with lots of girls.
/r/seduction14/08/19 04:20 PM
1

If you say so.
/r/seduction14/08/19 04:16 PM
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Unreasonable self-confidence. I'm 100% sure that I'm the best man she'll ever meet - and that if she's not attracted then there's something wrong with her. I wasn't always like this, though. It was quite the opposite. Took me many years of personal development and practicing game.
/r/seduction14/08/19 04:15 PM
1

Interesting opener, try it at a bar and see what happens! I'm guessing it will work well.
/r/seduction14/08/19 04:08 PM
2

I suppose you could try to find a Japanese translation of the Mystery Method 😂 The one in English works just as well, though.
/r/seduction14/08/19 04:07 PM
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Not selling anything. You can find the Mystery Method as a free pdf online. Whatever, I tried. Life's yours to ruin it.
/r/seduction14/08/19 04:04 PM
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What? Didn't you just tell me the opposite literally 5 minutes ago?Go outside brother, talk to people, spend some time in social environments. All this time wasted on reddit is not going to do you any good. I say this because I want to see you succeeding. Read the Mystery Method, and PRACTICE it. You could be dating a hot chick in 6 months, don't waste your life in sadness.
/r/seduction14/08/19 04:02 PM
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I understand why you'd think that, but it's not true. Now you can choose to stay where you are and live the rest of your life in sadness because you weren't born tall, white and handsome... ...or you can learn game and start getting laid. It really is a personal choice. I can't physically force you to learn game. Wish I could, though. It would change your life.
/r/seduction14/08/19 03:58 PM
2

I'd strongly suggest reading the Mystery Method as one of the most important things a beginner can do. The guy wrote a freaking MANUAL on how seduction works and a step-by-step process to get girls. It has been tested and proven by HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of men all over the world (myself included). It's beyond me why anyone would skip that and try to figure it out by themselves...
/r/seduction14/08/19 03:45 PM
2

Nope, but do you need to pull more girls than Sean O Pry? Or do you just want to get laid often and date some hot chicks?
/r/seduction14/08/19 03:39 PM
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Read the Mystery Method and learn how the game works. Then go ahead and use what you've learned.
/r/seduction14/08/19 03:33 PM
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Wrong, and that mindset is exactly what's holding you back from having success with dating. Read the Mystery Method, learn about what REALLY triggers attraction, and get lots of real world experience. This comment is bad not only for the OP, but also for yourself - since it's reinforcing a FALSE limiting belief.
/r/seduction14/08/19 03:31 PM
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Then you're showing too much interest even with that harmless opener. Watch some videos about opening, it should be done over the shoulder, body facing away from her, etc. If you could get a friend to film you approaching, you'd probably get many insights about what you're doing wrong (and we can help too if you post here). ​ PS: no need to create routines, there are hundreds of EXCELLENT routines that have been tested and proven all over the world. What you need is a routine STACK, a sequence o…
/r/seduction14/08/19 03:24 PM
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And how do they react when you ask for directions to the nearest Starbucks? I don't care if you're the ugliest guy in the world and an actual midget, 95% of people would still give you 10 seconds of their time to help you out. That's all you need. So that's your opener. -'Hey, do you know where the nearest Starbucks is?' Now where do you go from there? Create a routine stack and learn exactly what to say from 'Hi' to getting a number close (or an instant date). ​ 'If you really want something, y…
/r/seduction14/08/19 03:16 PM
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What girls say they want does not matter. They respond to high value.
/r/seduction13/08/19 06:09 PM
1

With 3 exceptions: Dance floor Crazy festivals When the girl is obviously checking you out
/r/seduction13/08/19 04:44 PM
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PS: Dancefloor game is the exception. Go direct + non-verbal for best results.
/r/seduction13/08/19 04:39 PM
2

A bunch of hot chicks into yoga, spirituality, veganism, etc. The best kind of women in my opinion. Competition is nearly non-existent: locals have zero game, and most male tourists are drunk Australians.
/r/seduction13/08/19 01:56 PM
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Be extremely confident and have super tight game. Do you honestly think a woman would refuse to have sex with this confident, funny, charismatic, successful, sexy man just because his penis is average? No way, doesn't happen.
/r/seduction13/08/19 01:15 PM
1

Yes, it's smart to package yourself in a way that is more attractive to your target niche of women. You don't need to be inauthentic, though. Just incorporate some elements that might help.
/r/seduction13/08/19 01:10 PM
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Asking her out as your first message was not a good move IMO. But now that it's done, wait a couple days and then send something funny, like a screenshot of some news about a woman robbing a bank in the Bahamas and then ask: 'is that you? Won't tell anyone, but you need to split the money with me' Whatever something crazy like that, she will respond for sure, and then do some roleplaying.
/r/seduction13/08/19 01:02 PM
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BALI BALI BALI But date tourists, not locals.
/r/seduction13/08/19 12:58 PM
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Doesn't matter. If a cute girl sits next to you anywhere, open her with a non-threatening situational / indirect opener and have a great time with her.
/r/seduction13/08/19 12:56 PM
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The difference is, from what I've seen in your profile, you're not actively approaching or doing daygame (or nightgame). So your opinion is based on your opinion, my opinion is based on 9 years of game, thousands of approaches, hundreds of closes, and experience as a dating coach for Venusian Arts. That's like going to the doctor and saying their opinion about a medical procedure is just as valuable as yours. I'm in no way saying that I'm a better person or smarter or anything (I'm not) - but I …
/r/seduction13/08/19 12:50 PM
2

When the pain of being alone is unbearable, then embarassing yourself for a few months is definitely worth the decades of having success with women. I was not good when I started, my friends had to physically push me to open sets in a few occasions. It was painful, I would sweat and get lightheaded and just want to disappear. But I kept going, and shortly picking up girls was super easy and natural.
/r/seduction13/08/19 12:43 PM
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Nope. I agreed with social skills being crucial. And then I said that brazilian girls don't have such high standards (in my opinion). But they still have standards and being a social guy is extremely important.
/r/seduction13/08/19 12:37 PM
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100% I just assumed the vast majority of guys here are all theory and no action, hence my post. But you're spot on.
/r/seduction12/08/19 08:39 PM
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Yes, having too many options can really mess with your relationships. When I decided to stop fucking around and just be with one girl, it was REALLY hard to stop dating other girls. I'd say I was addicted to pickup. But in the end both scarcity and abundance bring their own challenges. I prefer to deal with the challenges of abundance.
/r/seduction12/08/19 08:09 PM
1

A step-by-step process for finding, meeting and attracting women - then taking them to bed. It was created many years ago by a guy who calls himself Mystery, hence the name. He studied evolutionary psychology and came up with a way to systematically pickup girls based on the natural social dynamics between men and women. It is really good, and works like magic. Just google Mystery Method, find the pdf and read it.
/r/seduction12/08/19 07:53 PM
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Some gurus would agree with you, but I still find pickup to be very exciting - even after all these years. Sure you need to build a life - but I don't downplay the importance of learning game, and it's a lot of fun too.
/r/seduction12/08/19 07:50 PM
1

Agree, it does take thousands of sets to get good. 100 in 30 days is a good start, though.
/r/seduction12/08/19 07:48 PM
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yep you got me.
/r/seduction12/08/19 07:47 PM
1

Did you open over the shoulder? Did you have a followup for your opener? The opinion opener needs to be a two-fold question that leads into DHVs and a dilemma. Also if she's just sitting at the bar it's sometimes better to pass her by, drop the opener, then say you need to greet some friends but you have something else to ask, leave the set, open another group where she can see, do the same thing, get back to her and then followup with your routines. This little trick builds social proof, antici…
/r/seduction12/08/19 06:01 PM
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Yes it does make more sense now. Agree on learning to improvise, super important. Having a teacher/wing is also incredibly useful. From what I've seen, most people on this sub are complete beginners - so I still recommend MM as the #1 resource.
/r/seduction12/08/19 05:30 PM
1

Yeah it's all about silver awards, isn't it?
/r/seduction12/08/19 05:27 PM
1

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/r/seduction12/08/19 05:21 PM
1

I can only speak from personal experience - and having closed hundreds of girls with MM, I have to say it works very well.
/r/seduction12/08/19 04:56 PM
1

Exactly. Google that, find the pdf, read it, use it, get laid as much as you want.
/r/seduction12/08/19 04:33 PM
1

And I encourage indirect game with Mystery Method. Learning that system and sequence os exactly what beginners need. They have no structure to their game, no idea what to do next. MM is not outdated, it breaks down the natural process of courtship as it's been done for the last 200,000 years.
/r/seduction12/08/19 04:32 PM
1

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/r/seduction12/08/19 03:45 PM
1

haha you can go out with her. Then next day you get back to your approaches.
/r/seduction12/08/19 03:44 PM
1

If you go with direct openers, then yes then think it's creepy. If you're using the Mystery Method, then no - it just feels like a natural spontaneous conversation and it's actually very enjoyable for them.
/r/seduction12/08/19 03:44 PM
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If it works for you, then keep it up. MM is what I used when I was learning (and still do, to this day) and what I used to teach... because I really believe it's the absolute best way to learn game.
/r/seduction12/08/19 03:42 PM
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I only use direct for dance floor game (almost no words, though. Mostly physical escalation while dancing). All other situations, Indirect.
/r/seduction12/08/19 03:41 PM
1

Such as? And yes I would say MM is the gold standard for pickup. I know there are others, in my opinion MM is the best for beginners.
/r/seduction12/08/19 01:21 PM
1

100%. Being a social guy should be the #1 priority.
/r/seduction12/08/19 01:19 PM
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Big cities. Streets, malls, bookstores, starbucks, bars, nightclubs, etc. Where girls are.
/r/seduction12/08/19 01:17 PM
2

Follow the Mystery Method and post field reports or have a wingman to give you feedback.
/r/seduction12/08/19 01:13 PM
1

¯_(ツ)_/¯
/r/seduction12/08/19 01:12 PM
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Our bootcamps were: 4h nightgame Friday (bars) + 2h daygame Saturday (streets/malls) + 4h nightgame Saturday (nightclub) + 2h daygame Sunday (beach/streets)
/r/seduction12/08/19 01:10 PM
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Sounds absurd, right? Ask the 'feminists me too rape culture' girls and guys.
/r/seduction12/08/19 01:08 PM
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100%
/r/seduction12/08/19 01:05 PM
1

Read the Mystery Method and go out to practice 3-4 times a week. Practice openers, then practice DHV routines, then Qualifying, then Isolating, etc etc etc.
/r/seduction12/08/19 01:04 PM
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When you're just starting out, yes the Mystery Method. You'll have plenty of time to practice your favourite method after hundreds of approaches a couple dozen KCs. But MM is the foundation, it guides you through all phases of seduction in a systematic way.
/r/seduction12/08/19 01:02 PM
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Big cities. Streets, malls, bookstores, starbucks, bars, nightclubs, etc. Literally anywhere you can find girls.
/r/seduction12/08/19 01:00 PM
1

Sorry to hear about your struggles, and understand that MOST guys in this community have a similar backstory - so you're not alone. There is a thing called desensitization where you don't feel the same negative emotions after you go through a situation many times. Eg: first time you kiss a girl it's freaking amazing, 100th time you do it it's just no big deal. Same thing with rejection, approaching etc. So I really would suggest you finish your 100 approaches in 1 month regardless of how hard it…
/r/seduction12/08/19 12:58 PM
1

100%
/r/seduction12/08/19 12:52 PM
2

True about the social thing. But I've picked up women from all over the world and I'd say that holds true across the globe - with only a few exceptions. But IMO brazilian women don't have high standards... they're actually quite 'easy' (don't like that word).
/r/seduction12/08/19 12:46 PM
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¯_(ツ)_/¯ if it's working for you, keep it up then.
/r/seduction12/08/19 12:45 PM
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I get what you're saying but I'll have to disagree - and here's why: Improvising is only good AFTER you know the game very well and have excellent social skills. But I'd say for at least the first 1 year of PUA, sticking to the Mystery Method is the best bet. Seduction is just like any skillset. If you want to learn how to play the piano, you will never find a teacher who says: 'Just improvise and play whatever comes to mind' On the contrary, they'll make you study proven theories and techniques…
/r/seduction12/08/19 12:42 PM
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Well done on putting yourself out there. Respect. 5KCs and 1FC in 120 approaches is not bad for a beginner, I'd say you did good (especially if this is day game). Now if you want to start improving the quality and quantity of closes, I'd suggest you try indirect game!
/r/seduction12/08/19 12:37 PM
1

Mystery Method. Has been working for the past 200,000 years ;)
/r/seduction12/08/19 03:48 AM
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100 approaches in 1 month is just the first assignment! Agree with you, it took me thousands of sets to get good. I added a crucial PS to the post about how those approaches should be.
/r/seduction12/08/19 03:42 AM
2

Do you follow the M3 model?
/r/seduction12/08/19 03:37 AM
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Post a field report here and we'll help you out!
/r/seduction12/08/19 03:27 AM
1

Ok write a field report and I'll share my feedback.
/r/seduction12/08/19 03:26 AM
3

That's 100% on point.
/r/seduction12/08/19 03:25 AM
2

Then watch videos. RSD Tyler, RSD Julien, 'pickup infield', etc.
/r/seduction12/08/19 03:24 AM
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They do work. If you can write a field report I'll be more than glad to give you feedback.
/r/seduction12/08/19 03:23 AM
7

That's good practice for overcoming approach anxiety, so kudos on that. Takes balls, most men don't have them. But those approaches won't get you laid :) When I say 'approach' 100 times, I mean 'approach the way it's taught at the Mystery Method'. I'll add that on the post. In that case it would be: Over the shoulder, false time constraint, opinion opener, root, follow up, etc. If you have no idea what I'm talking about, read Mystery Method and try THAT for 100 times. I promise you'll see the di…
/r/seduction12/08/19 03:19 AM
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It didn't get ANY better? I seriously doubt it. How do you approach?
/r/seduction12/08/19 03:08 AM
1

Watch Charisma Matrix on youtube. That will help you a lot with social skills.
/r/seduction12/08/19 03:03 AM
8

What do you mean?
/r/seduction12/08/19 02:49 AM
72

It really is freaking lucrative. But this was 6 years ago. Teaching PUA in 2019 is a DANGEROUS business. You can actually end up in jail in some countries, and I'm not exaggerating.
/r/seduction12/08/19 02:44 AM
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Find good role models. If you cant, then watch videos of role models every day. RSD Tyler, RSD Julien, Charisma Matrix... search for 'infield pickup' on youtube. Also read the blog 'Alpha Next Door'
/r/seduction12/08/19 02:41 AM
3

This 100 approaches thing is NOT about landing perfect 10s, it's about getting experience and building the skill set.
/r/seduction12/08/19 02:37 AM
1

Pretty much. Also this can be a good moment to escalate for the kiss (not in every case, though).
/r/seduction12/08/19 02:30 AM
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I was a coach for Venusian Arts in Latin America, my boss was Matador (James).
/r/seduction12/08/19 02:27 AM
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Nope, 2500 a weekend per person
/r/seduction12/08/19 02:24 AM
2

It's not about technique, the key is the decisive leading energy. If you're 'trying'to spin her or 'hoping' she'll spin, it will NOT work. Having said that, offer your right hand. She'll hold it. Then, while still lightly hold her hand, start raising your hands and guiding her into the spin. If she looks confused, then do a little spinning move with your other hand so that she understands what you mean. You can even say: 'Do a little spin.' If she refuses (only happens if your energy is not righ…
/r/seduction12/08/19 12:42 AM
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Brother, first thing is get in touch with your masculine energy. This whole idea of avoiding too much physical contact, raising your hands when people pass, etc. this is bullshit and it needs to go. This is negative social programming and it's fucking with your life. Not your fault, but it's time to get rid of it. I won't comment about this specific interaction because it's not relevant. Your focus now should be to learn how to feel confident in your own skin. Don't believe this nonsense that pe…
/r/seduction12/08/19 12:33 AM
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sometimes girls will be very nice to you, but then treat you like shit in front of her friends. That means she doesn't think you're high value enough, and that her friends will judge her if they see she's into you. When it's just you and her, then there's no peer pressure - hence why she's nice to you. Also girls LOVE to keep some satellites orbiting around them, it's healthy for their ego. The way to overcome that is by coming across as a very high value guy that she WANTS to be seen with. Iron…
/r/seduction12/08/19 12:21 AM
1

Hnnnn... only if you get the premium option where you can choose the demographics of your voters. Otherwise everyone can vote, including men, older people, teenagers, etc. So it's not trustworthy.
/r/seduction10/08/19 11:20 PM
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That's because you don't practice enough. Do the thing and you'll get good at doing the thing. First hundred times are the hardest.
/r/seduction08/08/19 08:43 PM
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Wait til it's dark, then get outside and start approaching. Jk, either find PUAs in your area (there are communities ir nearly every city) or go out alone with the mindset that your friend is going to be late so you'll just do some approaches and meet new people while you wait for him. You can even tell people that, so that you don't feel like a loser by himself on a nightclub. Some of the best nights of my life started as lone wolf and suddenly I was friends with the whole club and had my own g…
/r/seduction08/08/19 05:28 PM
1

Shit tests are a GOOD sign. Any high-value girl WILL test you since she needs to know that you are alpha. Shit test = bullshit test = are you full of shit or the real deal? 3 easy ways to pass shit tests, they all work: Ignore them Agree and amplify Flip the script See examples below: [SHIT TEST] 'Is this your first time hitting on a woman?' Just smirk/wink and stack forward with your routines. (Speaking like a child) YES HOW DID YOU KNOW? OMG I'M SO NERVOUS RIGHT NOW! OH NO IT'S NOT GOING WELL?…
/r/seduction07/08/19 09:12 PM
1

90% of your approaches SHOULD BE groups. Read Mystery Method (or TPUA) and use what you'll learn! Open the group, address everyone, false time constraint, DHVs, neg the target, run some routines, isolate, etc.
/r/seduction07/08/19 08:44 PM
1

Both. Some people rate the photo, some rate the person. I've used photofeeler a lot, and I do think it's reliable as a tool for choosing a good profile pic (specially for business). But other than that, it's pretty useless.
/r/seduction07/08/19 08:41 PM
1

But I just want to add that, when your game is really solid, even a very good looking guy won't steal your girls.
/r/seduction07/08/19 08:38 PM
3

Unless your game is really tight, yes he'll usually get the hottest girl. But what about the 2nd hottest, 3rd hottest etc? They're all yours. Just make sure you're conveing high value and you won't have a problem.
/r/seduction07/08/19 08:34 PM
20

Well done! Keep doing these approaches every day, it will change your life.
/r/seduction07/08/19 08:29 PM
1

exactly. learn from it and move on! plenty of girls for you to meet :)
/r/seduction07/08/19 05:26 PM
1

Watch videos on Charisma, Social Skills, Small Talk, Being Social, etc. Your parents will love if they see you making friends on a plane. Maybe not so much if they see you openly hitting on a girl, but being social is a positive trait.
/r/seduction07/08/19 02:29 PM
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I'd only do that if she was EXTREMELY hot, as there's a big chance things will go sideways. Here are two of the possible scenarios that I think are the most likely to happen: You hit on her, she's not interested, things get weird and now she doesn't want to cuddle and watch movies because she knows you're into her. You actually hook up with her and things go well, then you start dating other girls and she's pissed. Living with her is now very awkward. If she is incredibly hot, then I'd say go fo…
/r/seduction07/08/19 02:05 PM
1

If you're approaching girls going to work etc then yes that's expected. 3 min is enough to get an Instagram close/number close, but work on your routine stack as I'm guessing you're running out of things to say. Also using FTC is crucial (false time constraint). Eg. I have to go in a minute to meet some friends, but... then stack forward.
/r/seduction07/08/19 01:30 PM
1

RSD Madison
/r/seduction07/08/19 01:26 PM
1

Read Mystery Method then do the 30 day stylelife challenge.
/r/seduction07/08/19 01:25 PM
2

That's because you were thinking about picking her up. Next time think about being social and just making casual conversation, and all the pressure will disappear.
/r/seduction07/08/19 01:11 PM
2

Yes you can ask her out and that will show you whether she sees you as just a friend or something more.
/r/seduction07/08/19 01:06 PM
1

In those cases, Instagram close is the best.
/r/seduction07/08/19 01:04 PM
8

First off let's address the whole 'being yourself' thing. Right now I'm wearing my pajamas, as I just woke up. If I go to a nightclub dressed like this, chances of picking up a girl will drop dramatically (been there, done that. Did get a girl, but wasn't easy). But if I dress up nice, am I still being myself? Of course I am. What I'm wearing is not who I am, it's just one way to showcase my character and that can change in different situations. Suit for business meetings, dress shirt for going …
/r/seduction07/08/19 11:55 AM
1

It comes with practice. After 100s of approaches you'll know exactly what's going on. But also build a stack with routines that will take you from open to close.
/r/seduction06/08/19 10:27 AM
2

It's kinda funny but nope. You're basically saying: swipe right because I'm tall and funny. It's best if your bio can communicate: I'm a cool guy living an awesome life and you're lucky if you can get a match with me - but I honestly don't care. So drop hints of value and disqualifiers. Eg: I like scuba diving and learning new languages. Not looking for hookups, but if you're cool maybe you can be my new adventures partner. I'm not here a lot but hey if you never try then you'll never know. Just…
/r/seduction04/08/19 06:11 PM
1

That's a tricky question because once you can read subcommunication from distance, you can choose to only open girls who are obviously interested. That's how you get the famed '5 out of 5' (I've done it many times and it's not that hard). In my opinion 100 approaches for 1 lay is what a beginner with zero game should expect. As an experienced PUA, you can realistically expect to get laid 2-3x a week if you're consistently going out and opening sets.
/r/seduction04/08/19 04:13 PM
1

That's awesome, they say that because they're interested. Just role play for a bit then stack forward.
/r/seduction04/08/19 04:01 PM
3

Go situational and indirect. Best one that I know is asking her to watch your stuff while you go to the toilet (or order something), then when you're back say thanks and ask: - so did you have to fight any thieves? She'll giggle and sometimes even say: 'Yes I did!' You can then tell a quick fun story about thieves or coffee shops or whatever, then stack forward.
/r/seduction04/08/19 03:57 PM
2

Yep you're sabotaging your success because you're afraid you'll suck in bed. And you will. The way to get over this is to just accept the fact that the first couple times you have sex will be weird and you'll not be great. It's fine, everyone goes through it (specially girls). You'll sleep with many many girls in your life, so just get that first time out of the way now. Have sex with girls who are into you, and get out of your head. Do whatever feels natural, and if it's weird just let it be we…
/r/seduction04/08/19 03:49 PM
1

.Mystery Method (and practice it in real life) .The Natural Art of Seduction (Richard La Ruina) .The Pickup Artist (Mystery) When you're more advanced, REVELATION by Mystery and Lovedrop. That book is similar to a phd in social dynamics.
/r/seduction04/08/19 03:45 PM
2

Yep that's good advice. Nowadays you should also DEFINITELY make her follow you on instagram. That's one of the best ways to build value and show what an interesting life you live without bragging. Instagram is 10x better than tinder as a dating app, I'm dead serious.
/r/seduction04/08/19 03:39 PM
1

Yes of course. A few golden rules, ask for more details if you need. The rule of 2/3. Your messages should be max. 2 thirds (70%) the length of her messages, and you should wait 3/2 (150%) the time before replying to her. You want her to message last before you stop texting for the day. (Meaning her last message will sit there unanswered until tomorrow, not yours). Trigger curiosity. Include things in your messages that will cause her to ask questions. Whenever you need to ask questions, also in…
/r/seduction04/08/19 02:16 AM
1

Year was 2012, by then I had been into pickup for 3 years. Dating many chicks and having a blast, was not looking for a girlfriend at all. Then one day I saw this incredibly sexy girl at a bar. Everything about her was exactly what I always wanted in a woman (physically). Also the way she was dancing with her friends, her vibe, I instantly felt like she was the one. That day I was with another girl at the bar, though. So I waited for my date to go to the toilet, then approached the perfect sexy …
/r/seduction31/07/19 08:56 PM
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