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CrazySanta7/r/Divorce_Men15/03/24 06:15 PM
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CrazySanta7/r/Divorce_Men08/05/22 02:35 PM
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CrazySanta7/r/Divorce_Men25/02/22 03:59 PM
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CrazySanta7/r/Divorce_Men04/10/22 06:55 PM
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F that. What happens when she's staying late at work? What happens when her phone rings? What happens when you see her texting? I'll tell you. It is going to trigger you, as it should. Both men and women cheat, but women are way better at hiding it. Women DO NOT respect men who take them back, especially if they cheated on you. It makes it seem like you have zero options. When women start emotionally cheating, it's game fn over. Start moving on with your next chapter. Start doing things you did …
/r/Divorce_Men16/01/26 05:33 PM
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Bro. Hope is a killer in this situation. She has been caught several times with another man and you have 'hope'? You are plan D in case plan A,B,C do not work out. She has zero respect for you, why? She can do anything to you, and you still 'want' her. She has you by the balls. You are just showing her that you have zero options. You've got to stop this now. It's over. You are a stud and you have boundaries. You do not have relationships with women who cheat and lie. You do not do anything for t…
/r/Divorce_Men14/01/26 01:21 AM
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Work it out? F no. Every time she 'travels' you will go nuts. When she's late from the grocery store, you will go nuts. When she's texting on her phone, you will go nuts. Some other dude was banging your wife. No fn way would i ever disrespect myself like that. Women do NOT respect men who take them back, especially after cheating. Go file. You have some leverage since she cheated, but it will soon wear off. Just a note, don't date/marry 'boss' babes, independent women, medical field women (espe…
/r/Divorce_Men12/01/26 08:43 PM
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This whole forgiveness thing is b.s. Everyone says 'forgiveness is for you'. What a crock. Most people say they forgive, but are still angry at that person. When people do me wrong, i don't have to forgive them. They knew exactly what they were doing. I'm not going to dwell on it, but they can F%%% all the way off.
/r/Divorce_Men02/01/26 05:18 PM
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She has already found potential love. Ask her if you can go through her phone. Her 'look' will tell you everything you need to know. This is the script over and over again. She has been 'done' for months/years. Once women hit this stage it is OVER. Your mind hits 'fight' mode to try and 'show her' how much you love her. You search 'how to save a marriage', etc. This stuff will not work. Stop. The more you 'try', the more she loses respect. She is at least talking to another guy and you are in he…
/r/Divorce_Men26/12/25 06:04 PM
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Re-married. Lol 😆 I learned my lesson the 1st time. But THIS girl is different. 🤣🤣
/r/Divorce_Men17/12/25 08:55 PM
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She cheated. This happens most of the time. Some men never find out, which may be better honestly. When a woman is 'done' she secretly tests the market. For example, she will complain about her marriage in front of men she likes. Women were 'done' months or years before they tell you. The attention from other men helps give them confidence to leave. Most monkey-branch to a new man before separation/divorce is announced. Men are flabergasted when they are 'quickly' in a new relationship....no my …
/r/Divorce_Men17/12/25 02:50 PM
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No DNA test? Bro, c'mon. Women will never respect a man who takes them back after cheating. But don't pay for another man's kid for 18 years.
/r/Divorce_Men10/12/25 08:18 PM
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95% of women have a potential landing spot when they announce separation/divorce. At the end of the day, it does not matter. You have the right to be 'triggered' especially after that long of a marriage. Women will continue the 'grass is greener'/Disney princess fantasy until they die. My ex seems to get a new boyfriend every 12 months right before the holidays. My kids have had enough of it and the oldest decided to live with me 100%. Keep the trigger to yourself, process that it pisses you off…
/r/Divorce_Men10/12/25 08:14 PM
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Men wont tell you to your face that the sex was bad.
/r/Divorce_Men20/11/25 03:19 PM
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Zero regrets. Worst case get it reversed
/r/Divorce_Men20/11/25 03:16 PM
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You can get good p@ssy without getting married.
/r/Divorce_Men10/09/25 06:27 PM
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No marriage, no co-habitation. I learned my lesson the 1st time. Dudes are like 'I FoUnD ThIs AwEsOmE NeW WoMaN!'. Lol. Our ex wives were 'awesome'.....in the beginning also.
/r/Divorce_Men10/09/25 06:25 PM
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Women don't regret it. It's a show. You have the best karma possible.....she is begging and you get to say....F no.
/r/Divorce_Men10/09/25 03:52 PM
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Get your power back and go file. She isn't changing her mind.
/r/Divorce_Men11/08/25 09:51 PM
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No kids? No reason to stay connected. Block, remove pictures, and move on.
/r/Divorce_Men08/07/25 03:25 PM
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Speak for yourself. What are you expecting to find on google? Most of our ex's were not horrible until the tail end of the marriage or during the divorce process. This advice is like going out and getting hit by a bus, then blaming that person for not knowing the risks of going outside.
/r/Divorce_Men27/06/25 10:10 PM
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The lewd act is on the web? Thats odd. Contact an attorney asap. He can find out the results of the case. Typically, they can't be around kids. You can search the local sex offenders' website also. If he's on there, call the cops. Its disgusting your ex does not care.
/r/Divorce_Men27/06/25 09:53 PM
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Get a STD test
/r/Divorce_Men01/06/25 08:57 PM
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Don't take this as her wanting marriage. Reconciliation is a pipe dream. She has no incentive to go file. She gets to go out and bang dudes while being married. I did all the work to get the divorce done. She wanted to stay married until the kids were 18 while she lived her single life. Get the ball rolling and remove any 'hope' you have.
/r/Divorce_Men01/06/25 08:55 PM
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Compete with the person in the mirror, you. The issue with society today is that everyone envies others based on social media/outside factors. Trust me, things are never as they seem. It's like seeing that person 'doing well' on social media. You are 'seeing' 20% of their life, which are all 'happy' moments. Most of these people are struggling behind the scenes. Keep going and try and improve something every day, even if it's 0.000001%
/r/Divorce_Men01/06/25 04:13 PM
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She is banging another dude and she will stop at nothing to be with him. Move fast while she is 'blinded by love'. Get the divorce rolling and everything in writing. Move fast. When he dumps her she will go after everything.
/r/Divorce_Men29/05/25 01:54 PM
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What are you doing to push the divorce through? How is she holding it up? I did all the fn work for the divorce she wanted. It was the same at the tail end of the marriage. It doesn't mean she does not want divorce. You are still liable for debts etc if she racks them up. So, get the ball rolling or get a better lawyer. Many women keep the last name, especially if there are kids with the same last name. It's a fn hassle to get a name changed. Good luck man.
/r/Divorce_Men28/05/25 03:38 PM
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This post is underrated! I golfed in the morning, watched golf in the afternoon, and fired up the grill at night. Guess what? No one asked me to fix a damn thing. No one bitched about the food. No one made me feel guilty for doing what I want for a change.
/r/Divorce_Men24/05/25 03:14 PM
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You need to wake up. She is banging her AP and you have hope of being friends with this woman? Get some respect for yourself and draw boundaries. Block this woman on every app and stop contacting her. Her and the AP are probably laughing at your messages. Stand up for yourself and stop having 'hope'. It is over. Women do not respect men who take them back after cheating. Why? Because they see you can't get anything else. Stop waiting by the phone and get some things going in your life. If you ha…
/r/Divorce_Men23/05/25 09:25 PM
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Don't get married again.
/r/Divorce_Men21/05/25 11:42 PM
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No, i got great kids out of the deal and learned many lessons about the fantasy of a life long marriage.
/r/Divorce_Men21/05/25 03:04 PM
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Oh i agree 100%. My point is that women don't have to 'level up' like men do. They could go out and get a masters degree.....men do not care about this kind of thing. Youth and beauty matter to most men, so i def agree that older women are left in the cold.
/r/Divorce_Men20/05/25 07:41 PM
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The robots are actually looking pretty good!
/r/Divorce_Men19/05/25 09:43 PM
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Because most women don't have to 'level up'. They throw on a tight outfit, nails, make-up and post it online. Boom! Thirsty dudes are trying to F%#$. Even 4's get attention. It does not work like that for men.....unfortunately.
/r/Divorce_Men19/05/25 06:17 PM
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So, she disrespects you by cheating, and he further disrespects you with that b.s. message? Dudes who try and raise another mans kids (especially an involved dad) have another thing coming. It's usually a losing battle. I'm not trying to stir the pot, but i get what you are feeling. Out of the blue (to me) my youngest said 'i'm going to have a new stepdad'. Of course, that relationship lasted 6 months. I do agree with others though.....You have to deal with the anger of something you can't contr…
/r/Divorce_Men19/05/25 02:24 PM
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Women value security/provisioning. Men value beauty. When the provisioning is gone, then the marriage/relationship will decline. This is like a woman gaining 200 lbs and expecting a man to 'love her as she is'. I am NOT saying it's a reason to dissolve a marriage, but it's insight into our biology. This is why women who make more and/or men who lose their jobs make it tough in a relationship. You'd think vows count, but as we find day after day, they don't. Good luck, man.
/r/Divorce_Men19/05/25 11:52 AM
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My oldest lives with me 100% (her choice). My ex doesn't call or text her or do anything to support her. She has her come over for Easter. 5 min later, im told to get her. All she did was take a picture with both kids with a "so happy to have these kids in my life" on social media. My oldest was devastated. She thought she was there for the day. Never again.
/r/Divorce_Men18/05/25 02:42 PM
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Where did i say that? I'm saying a relationship with someone who endured that will be tough for both of them.
/r/Divorce_Men17/05/25 04:58 PM
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It's usually a terrible idea. If she left you, there is no hope. Women who leave usually have a man waiting in the wings. If that does not work out, sometimes they come back to plan B, you. But who tf wants to be the backup option? Reconciliation has a slim to none chance of working, especially long term.
/r/Divorce_Men17/05/25 04:52 PM
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Cassie's current man is taking the L. What she went through (willing or not) is going to make it a tough relationship / marriage. Imagine being in court hearling about random men f$$$ing your wonan and peeing in her mouth.
/r/Divorce_Men17/05/25 04:31 PM
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A man who was cheated on will pull the divorce trigger. She committed the biggest act of disrespect towards you and is still friends with the dude? You are essentially giving HER the choice? Bro. I'm not trying to kick you down, but a woman will NEVER respect a man who takes her back after cheating. In her mind, you must not be able to get another woman, and all you have is her. Get your respect back and file. Lets pretend you get back together. Where is your mind going to go when she's 10-15 mi…
/r/Divorce_Men14/05/25 09:09 PM
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Everyone is different, but a year is more than reasonable, IMO. But go out and date, don't 'fall' for the first thing that comes along because you are lonely. Don't get married again, or at min get a prenup (not a guarantee). Remember, all of our ex wives were 'awesome' in the beginning. Don't fool yourself into thinking 'i've found the one'. People get high on the new relationship, then 12-18 months later, it wears off. Take any relationship slow. The real work begins when 'in love' chemicals w…
/r/Divorce_Men14/05/25 12:01 PM
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Bro, no. Let the kids get her a gift. You are trying to get validation from this woman deep down. And p.s. on the divorced wonan you are dating....most women will torch their ex husband. Ex husbands are 'monsters' in most women's stories, which gave them reason to cheat, etc.
/r/Divorce_Men10/05/25 12:02 PM
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What does beating up women have to do with the comment?
/r/Divorce_Men07/05/25 09:10 PM
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Feminism, social media, disney movies, independent women, only fans, beta males, etc.
/r/Divorce_Men06/05/25 04:03 PM
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Figure out your part on the marriage breakdown even if you think it's 100% her fault (cheating, etc). Work on those things. Healing takes months, if not years. If you are not doing it already, start physical exercise. In marriage, i stopped hanging with friends, stopped going to the gym as much, etc. I got lazy, plain, and simple. Women....hmm. i found out hooking up with a bunch of women does not help much. Either does going out drinking like you are 21. I do not recommend either, at least not …
/r/Divorce_Men06/05/25 03:57 PM
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What are you showing your kids? To get treated like trash and disrespected, but to 'hang in there'? F that. And she does not like your kids? This is likely evident to your kids also, but you won't pull the trigger? Imagine how that is impacting your kids, man.
/r/Divorce_Men01/05/25 09:22 PM
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Counseling is a WOMBAT (waste of money, brains and time). When the thought of divorce or separation comes up, it is O-V-E-R. The woman has been planning for months or years. Men panic, and since they focus on single tasks really well, they are on a mission to 'win her back'. Begging, pleading, manipulation, Counseling, looking up 'how to save a marriage', making 'changes' (and showing her), etc, etc. This makes her run faster. You are boosting her ego, and she sees that she is the only woman you…
/r/Divorce_Men01/05/25 09:15 PM
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Ask an attorney. The answer will greatly depend on the state you are in.
/r/Divorce_Men01/05/25 08:56 PM
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When she banged the dude a year back. It was over. Once her emotions switch to another guy, it is over for you. You can turn into Brad Pitt and it will not matter. And it got physical at some point. Stop blaming yourself so much. She cheated. Move on and become the best man you can be. Good luck.
/r/Divorce_Men29/04/25 03:42 PM
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No. Why? Because you should learn more about women. They always have their 'Wifi' signal going looking for something better. Most will act on it, and few will not. Blame disney movies, ocial media, feminism, 'independent' woman culture, etc. Women get tons of likes, messages, and follow requests, even when married/in a relationship. Even 5's get this online from thirsty men. Women see all the 'happy' couples on social media and think it is 'real' life. Lol. Social media is maybe 20% of all the h…
/r/Divorce_Men21/04/25 01:20 PM
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When women are cheating, they pick fights on purpose. You are in the way of her and her new 'man'.
/r/Divorce_Men16/04/25 12:18 AM
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Yep, at minimum, there are plans to physically 'meet up'. 95% of the time, cheating has already occurred.
/r/Divorce_Men14/03/25 06:07 PM
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'I need to find myself again' = I want to go out and bang dudes. This is the harsh reality.
/r/Divorce_Men14/03/25 03:37 PM
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Let me clear up the confusion. She is, or about to f%% other men. Ask to see her phone and just watch her face. Do not hug her. It is over. Do not have 'hope' that she will change her mind. Don't search 'how to save my marriage'. Do not beg, plead, manipulate. Understand that when women talk about separation/divorce she has planned this out for months or even years. Do not try and do things for her. Be a good dad, but not to get validation from your ex wife. Do not be surprised when you find out…
/r/Divorce_Men04/03/25 01:01 PM
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'The marriage wheel' video by CGA should be mandatory for all men.
/r/Divorce_Men01/03/25 01:21 PM
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You are hooking up with a woman who cheated on you? Bro...c'mon. Get some respect for yourself and stop this. There are millions of women out there. This is beta AF. She certainly does not respect you. You are just giving her validation after she cheated on you. Get some fn boundaries and stop being weak when it comes to sex. Tell her today you are done 'hooking up'. Who knows what other guys she's f'ing. Good luck bro.
/r/Divorce_Men01/03/25 01:19 PM
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Tell her to F off. Seriously. She's going to ride the c**k carousel and wants to feel better about it. When a woman mentions divorce, it is OVER. She has planned this for months/years. Don't be shocked if she gets into a relationship 'all of a sudden'. She then keeps you as plan D in case A,B, and C don't work out. This is the norm playbook, not the exception. Good luck, man.
/r/Divorce_Men01/03/25 12:57 PM
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Stop doing this stuff. Reconciliation is a JOKE. It makes you look weak, and she loses further respect for you. She made her mind up months or years ago. She has been talking or hooking up with other dudes (or about to). I'm not trying to kick you down, but this is the reality of begging for 'one last chance'. Dust yourself off and realize it is over. Work on you and become independent again. Good luck bro
/r/Divorce_Men21/02/25 05:01 PM
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Go full force divorce before she changes her mind. And she WILL change her mind. She is likely pursing the guy and is blinded by limerence. Once this falls out, she will quickly change her tune and refuse anything she can. She wants you away as quickly as possible. She has zero intention on dating you. Tell her you don't want to anyway. Watch actions, NOT words. Zero chance she just stopped talking to that guy, she just hid it better. Good luck, man.
/r/Divorce_Men20/02/25 08:52 PM
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Reconciliation is a pipe dream, it really is. Women mourn the death of the marriage long before they bring up separation/divorce. Women initiate divorce 80-90% of the time. Think about that. She is likely out with other men while 'at her sister's'. It sucks, i know. When divorce comes up, most women monkey branch to the next guy in line. I don't make the rules. It's going to suck for a while, but the sooner you give up hope, the better. Good luck, man.
/r/Divorce_Men19/02/25 11:48 AM
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The only way to get courts to change is to put courts out of business by not getting married.
/r/Divorce_Men19/02/25 11:37 AM
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WOMBAT - Waste Of Money Brains And Time. Most couples go too late. One person has one foot out the door, and the other wants to 'save the marriage' (usually the man). Marriage counseling usually turns into how to divorce amicably.
/r/Divorce_Men18/02/25 08:02 PM
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You got this, bro! It sucks but what i have learned is to 'let go' of control. Let your kid make up their mind about your ex and boyfriend. It will work out in your favor long term.
/r/Divorce_Men15/02/25 02:39 PM
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Here is the rest of the TED talk.....Every relationship starts out this way. Enjoy it, but realize it will fade. Don't give up friends, hobbies, or a certain level of independence. Don't get married again. If you do, get a prenup (not always guaranteed). You can believe about 20% of what she says about her ex. Good luck bro
/r/Divorce_Men15/02/25 02:04 PM
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Valentine's Day, movies, and social media are a joke. They are there to make people have FOMO. It's Bulls%%%. The sooner you realize that, the better. 80% of couples are not fn 'happy'. You see 20% of people's lives. It's not reality. Some married dudes might get 'lucky' on Valentines day, then have to wait a month or two for the next round 'if she feels like it'. Figure out what you need to move on. Reminiscing or 'hoping' is not the way. Good luck bro.
/r/Divorce_Men15/02/25 01:57 PM
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It's b.s. As i tell my ex,'your relationship has nothing to do with our kids'. She will learn soon enough, but she will cram the boyfriend down the kids' throat until then. My ex did the same, and my oldest decided to live with me 100%. P.s. she did not likely get into a relationship quickly. It was going on long before you found out. This is the case 99.9% of the time. It does not matter. Stay the course and let her learn her lesson when (not if) they break up. Think James Bond. What she does d…
/r/Divorce_Men15/02/25 01:49 PM
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Facts
/r/Divorce_Men13/02/25 09:46 PM
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The time she spent by herself? Lol. That really means getting plowed by other dudes who used her for sex but would not commit. You are plan B. F no.
/r/Divorce_Men12/02/25 04:49 PM
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Ex husband's are the villains in every story. Someone has to be blamed for her 'unhappiness' so she can take ZERO accountability. Block her. Like you said, women post this b.s. to show she is 'single' and get validation.
/r/Divorce_Men10/02/25 12:59 PM
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Get ready for divorce. Its coming. Total disrespect. F that
/r/Divorce_Men10/02/25 12:53 PM
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All this does is give her validation, and she loses further respect for you. It tells her you can't get another woman, and she is your only game in town. It's her biology. Its like a homeless woman following you around saying 'i love you, marry me!'. You will run as fast as you can to get away.
/r/Divorce_Men10/02/25 12:46 PM
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Ask if you can look at her phone and just look at her face. It will tell you everything you need to know. Ultimately, it does not matter. Women mourn the death of the marriage months, if not years, before you find out. There is no coming back from this, so don't have any hope or beg, plead, manipulate, or be extra nice. It won't fn work. Good luck bro. Take the pain to the gym and become a beast.
/r/Divorce_Men21/01/25 10:27 PM
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Midlife crisis? No, she is banging another dude or about to. I'm not being harsh, i promise, but this is the rule, not the exception.
/r/Divorce_Men21/01/25 07:29 PM
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Get the divorce ball rolling. You are in limbo, your 'wife' is not. Rip the band aid off and stop having any kind of hope....there is none, unfortunately. You'll never 'heal' being separated.
/r/Divorce_Men21/01/25 01:08 PM
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Don't focus on women. They will always be around. If you can't be happy by yourself, a woman is not going to do it. If you want to get laid, i get it, but maybe wait if you are looking for a relationship.
/r/Divorce_Men21/01/25 01:04 PM
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Yeah, don't. She wants to be 'friends' so she can feel better about cheating. It's a trap. Respect yourself.
/r/Divorce_Men17/01/25 11:40 AM
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Unless you are trying to have kids, marriage has little value these days, IMO. I'm no marriage, no co-habitation, and it works for me. Everyone is different, but i learned my lesson the first time.
/r/Divorce_Men03/01/25 07:21 PM
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She 'gets it now'? No, she went for plan A. It failed, and she's crawling back to plan B. Ironically, she will lose respect for you 'taking her back,' and you'll be doing this again. Stay strong and proceed. Therapy/counseling seldom helps at this point. Good luck, bro
/r/Divorce_Men01/01/25 01:42 PM
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Stick to your guns. She wants separation to f%% other dudes while having you as a back up. Women don't need a separation to see if 'they miss you or to 'find themselves'. It's divorce practice.
/r/Divorce_Men28/12/24 11:54 AM
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I don't generally give advice unless i went through it myself. It sucked. Took a few years. Now, go be James Bond. You fn got this man.
/r/Divorce_Men08/12/24 02:21 AM
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Separation is divorce practice. It's mainly stated by the woman so she can hook up with her plan A, B, and C. Meanwhile, she has plan D (you) to come back to if those don't work out. It suck bro, but good luck.
/r/Divorce_Men02/12/24 07:42 PM
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Yes, it is best to split. The 'emotional affair' likely went further than she was saying. When women 'decide' divorce, it's game fn over. It was decided months/years ago. She mourned the loss of the marriage, and it's a complete waste of time to try and 'save' it. She cheated, and if you 'take her back' she loses further respect for you. Each time she's 'at work', your mind will wonder (is she cheating?). Guys will be in her office hitting on her.....about 85% of affairs start at work. You can't…
/r/Divorce_Men02/12/24 07:40 PM
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100% chance she will embrace her 'freedom', at least in the immediate future.
/r/Divorce_Men26/11/24 05:23 PM
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The person who cares less has all the power. It's not you. The more you beg, plead, manipulate, etc., the less respect you get from her. It's over. The best 'revenge is to get out and start improving yourself. This is not for her....it's for you. Lose her number. Would you really take her back after f'ing some other dude? The ONLY karma you can hope for is she asks for a second chance years down the road, and you say F off! P.s. stop looking up 'how to save a marriage'. When a woman falls out of…
/r/Divorce_Men21/11/24 08:06 PM
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Do not 'work things out' with this woman. It sucks. I get it. But you are losing further respect as she is the only game in town for you (in her mind). Women mourn the death of the marriage before they cheat typically. There is NO coming back from this. Be honest with yourself. It is FN over. Think James Bond. He would move the f%%% on and not give a single F. I get it's not that easy, but begging, pleading, manipulating her to 'work it out' won't wotk. Figure out divorce steps and let her go to…
/r/Divorce_Men10/11/24 04:08 PM
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She wants you as an emotional tampon while she's out fu$$ing dudes. You are plan D while she explores plan A, B, C. Or she fu$$ed the dude she wanted and he dumped her. This is not to demean you. This is not to kick you while down. Once a woman is 'out of love' it's over. She mourned the death of the marriage months/years ago. Movies, shows, social media have ruined marriage. They continue to have fantasies of a prince swooping in, just like the disney movies. They see social media posts and thi…
/r/Divorce_Men02/11/24 02:23 PM
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Advice: Don't get married again. Do not co-habitate with a woman. If you do get married, do a pre nup. Focus on gym, hobbies, friends, kids (if you have them), work, and goals. Date casually so you can practice and meet women. Realize that even women who are 4's get attention online and can get laid TONIGHT if they want. It is not like that for 99% of men. Good luck, bro
/r/Divorce_Men18/10/24 02:36 PM
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You got this bro. My ex wanted to stay married 10 more years until our kids turned 18. Lol. No fn thanks! Good luck man.
/r/Divorce_Men16/10/24 12:32 PM
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I agree bro. It does not matter. You can fn do this. Took me a few years. Really started out going out all the time, drinking and hooking up with women. It does not fn help at all. I don't recommend that approach. Had to really refocus on myself and kids. P.s. the dawson's creek comment made me laugh. Lol. Have a great one man
/r/Divorce_Men16/10/24 12:31 PM
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No, it is over. You need to understand she mourned the death of the marriage months or years ago. She has identified a 'new car' that she is interested in. She has taken 'joy rides' in this car. 80-90% of women initiate separation/divorce. Think about that. Once this is done, the man panics and makes 'changes', begs, pleads, manipulates, etc. She feels the desperation and loses even more respect. Best thing you can do is realize the above and go through the suck. Get back to your pre marriage se…
/r/Divorce_Men16/10/24 12:19 PM
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Get this sh$t done, bro. My ex initiated, but i had to do everything to get it done. You comment that you are in no rush. Are you nuts? She can go out and rack up credit card debt on joint accounts. She likely has another man on the hook and has you there in case plan A,B,C don't work out. Your lawyer sucks if that's his/her answer.
/r/Divorce_Men16/10/24 12:10 PM
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Yep, this is the standard. Be ready for a man in the background. Most women will have a guy lined up before they announce separation/divorce. Don't go digging unless you are prepared to know the truth. At the end of the day, it does not matter. Get back to pre-marriage you. Hobbies, friends, gym, etc. The process sucks, i'm not going to lie. 80-90% of women initiate separation/divorce. Social media, TV shows, movies have ruined relationships, IMO. Vows mean nothing any longer. Good luck bro
/r/Divorce_Men16/10/24 11:52 AM
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No need for me to answer. This is a great post. I think the limit on four plexes is $2,095,000, at least it used to be in certain areas.
/r/Divorce_Men14/10/24 04:49 PM
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Order a paternatity test. You can get them at cvs, etc
/r/Divorce_Men14/10/24 04:12 PM
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Buy a 4 unit piece of property. Live in one of the units and collect rent on the other 3. You can do refi once rates get lower. You can potentially (depends on state) do a cash out refi to do repairs or buy another property. Rinse and repeat. Don't be afraid of debt. Debt is not your enemy, holding cash is.
/r/Divorce_Men14/10/24 04:10 PM
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She can F right off. Why do you have to move out? Deferred sale? No. She doesn't get to have an affair and have everything handed to her. I kept the house and told her to move tf out. I refinanced and got her off the deed.
/r/Divorce_Men12/10/24 01:00 AM
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Admitting it is the first step. Accept the reality like most of us do, eventually. My ex was all of a sudden interested in the baseball as well. She never watched or been to a game in her life. Gtfoh. I knew exactly what was going on. It's a punch in the gut, an ego hit. But just realize this is how most women operate at the tail end. It's the rule, the exception. Monkey branching is a real thing...... It's not about you, it's really not. It's society telling women to 'never settle'. It's her di…
/r/Divorce_Men11/10/24 02:46 PM
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Why are people on this app if they don't want feedback/advice? You don't have to take or listen to the advice, but that is the whole premise. Ive been on this sub for many years and more times than not, cheating is involved. Many men say 'no cheating by either of us' only to come back and say 'guys, you were right'. If people don't want advise, don't ask for it.
/r/Divorce_Men10/10/24 01:18 AM
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At the end of the day, it does not matter. It really doesn't. But try not to be so damn hard on yourself. It's a tough time to go through. It can kill your ego and self-confidence. It takes time to heal up, but realize the past can't be changed, but you can learn lessons and become better.
/r/Divorce_Men09/10/24 03:46 PM
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I see your edit. Every man is sure their wife is not cheating. That's not who she is, she would not do that, she has no time. B.s. Just stick to the facts.....you are not cheating. Women crave emotional connection. They mourn the loss of the marriage months or years before you find out. Just ask her if you can look through her phone. You will see the answer in her face. Don't cry when she says "No". 90% of women initiate divorce/separation and most, at minimum, have a guy in mind. Someone has gi…
/r/Divorce_Men09/10/24 03:29 PM
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If you are looking for hope because she is not filing, stop. Go file and get the ball rolling. She made up her mind long ago. You are allowing yourself to live in limbo. You said it yourself....she wants you to be her emotional tampon (we are friends). Depression or not, she's likely out banging other dudes on her 'wellness trips'. Grab your proverbial balls and take control of your life. You are waiting on her to make a decision? Her decision was made long long ago.
/r/Divorce_Men07/10/24 05:35 PM
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Sell it. As far as other options.....Don't get married again. Lol. At minimum, i hope you are getting a prenup. 'This one is different' is a lie, guys tell themselves.
/r/Divorce_Men06/10/24 11:49 PM
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Don't get married again
/r/Divorce_Men05/10/24 11:28 AM
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Hell yes! Happy Friday, bro!
/r/Divorce_Men27/09/24 07:19 PM
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This post should be turned into a book!
/r/Divorce_Men26/09/24 06:44 PM
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You mean YOU did not commit to infidelity. Women don't leave for no reason. There is a man, or at least man, picked out to monkey branch to. This is the case 95% of the time. I'm not kicking you while you are down, but it's reality. 'My wife would never do that!'. I get it. That version of your wife is long gone. Don't focus on it. It's over. Take care of the kid and stick up for yourself. It's time to get the old you back.
/r/Divorce_Men26/09/24 04:06 PM
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Finding a needle in a haystack is difficult. Women are brainwashed to think Prince Charming is going to swoop in and save the day. Most women are always on the lookout for prince charming, even when married/in a relationship.
/r/Divorce_Men25/09/24 06:51 PM
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Don't ever fn beg. There is likely another man in the picture. She wants time to see if plan A is going to work out. You are plan D, in case plan A, B, C don't work out. Her respect for you is gone, but your begging is pathetic in her mind. It shows her she is the ONLY option you have. Give her what she wants. Don't be a back up plan. Period. Good luck, bro.
/r/Divorce_Men23/09/24 09:41 PM
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It's a way to 'blame' you. She is telling men, her family, and her friends how 'horrible' you were to her. The self-help books are her way of saying YOU were the problem. Don't worry, that is the script. This is the reason why women initiate divorce. It's NEVER them. 100% the mans fault. So, burn the books or give them back.
/r/Divorce_Men23/09/24 09:34 PM
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You'll get there. We all have to forge our own path. We all learn different lessons and a new path forwatd, but fear of being alone is not a reason to be in a relationship. Many feel alone but surrounded by people. Good luck bro.
/r/Divorce_Men23/09/24 12:53 PM
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100% agree. Yet, i get called a woman hater. Lol. I think not living with a woman makes the relationship better. As i age, i need my space. I remember trying to watch 1 game of football when married. Constant complaining and being asked to fix stuff. Have a great week, bro!
/r/Divorce_Men23/09/24 12:50 PM
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Same. The not living together is the best IMO. Keeps things fresh. Too much time together kills it for me.
/r/Divorce_Men21/09/24 06:08 PM
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Sorry to break it to you, but we all die alone. You're in a hospital bed, nursing home, and/or in a 2nd, 3rd 4th marriage that sucks. I've made peace. Im not getting married again. I'm not living with a woman again and likely not doing a long-term relationship again. These things are not for me. I learned my lesson the 1st time.
/r/Divorce_Men21/09/24 06:06 PM
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Really enjoyed this addition. Well FN said bro. Let's go!
/r/Divorce_Men18/09/24 07:50 PM
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When women hit 'the wall' and can't attract men as easily.....it's all of a sudden your fault. All of a sudden, the grass is not greener on the other side. Too late bi%%%!
/r/Divorce_Men18/09/24 05:09 PM
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Ask yourself, why would i hold on to something that meant nothing to her? Many people keep stuff for memories or hope she will all of a sudden decide to come back. It often holds you back from moving on with your life. Now is the time to physically get rid of rings so you can mentally move on.
/r/Divorce_Men18/09/24 04:59 PM
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Yep, this is the norm, not the exception. Guys refuse to believe their 'wife' would ever cheat. I condemn this behavior 100%, but imagine the following: Womem get hit on constantly, even when married. They post on social media and get likes, comments, and DM's. This ramps up when they are 'unhappy' She goes to the store and gets hit on She goes to work and get hit on She sees 'happy' couples on social media Movies, TV shows, and social media vrain wash women. Ex. Disney movies All these happen, …
/r/Divorce_Men18/09/24 03:25 PM
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This is how most women work. It's the rule, not the exception.
/r/Divorce_Men15/09/24 03:18 PM
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I hear you bro! Marriage and relationships have changed. I'm not getting married again, but if you do, get a prenup. Get back to your old self and enjoy life. You got this!
/r/Divorce_Men11/09/24 12:40 PM
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I agree, but........for most women, when 'the spark is gone', that means it's lit with someone else. Women are emotional creatures, and when the 'in love' feeling is gone, they search as to why. She eventually thinks her 'unhappiness' must be caused by you, so you almost become an enemy in her head. You are keeping her from being 'happy'. She dreams about life without you when she sees other peoples fake 'happy' social media posts. She mourns the loss of the marriage without even telling you. Sh…
/r/Divorce_Men10/09/24 11:55 AM
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'Top men' don't use Tinder or dating apos
/r/Divorce_Men09/09/24 12:19 PM
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No fn way. She's likely talking or with another dude....whether you believe it or not. Go out and do something for you, bro. You seek validation from her and are using this anniversary to do it. You think saying some sappy b.s. will all of a sudden make her 'wake up' and come crawling back. It won't. Look at her actions. If she wanted to be with you, she would. It sucks. Good luck man.
/r/Divorce_Men26/08/24 12:23 AM
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Wake up. She wants to bang other men for 3 months. You are the back up plan. You are just going to have to see the truth. She considers you low value. She does not respect you. She can bang other dudes and has you waiting by the phone like a puppy dog. You are going to be devastated when you find out the truth. As i stated....ask her if you can go through her phone. The panic look you will get tells you all you need to know.
/r/Divorce_Men24/08/24 05:08 PM
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Yeah, i thought the same....along with thousands of other men. 'She would never cheat on me', 'she does not have time to cheat', etc. Then i looked at our cell phone bill. Hundreds and hundreds of text messages to 1 certain number. Women don't announce separation, divorce or unhappiness without a new prospect in mind. Social media makes it so easy to cheat. Women can post a selfie and get likes, comments, and DM's even when married. Some men do not care. Ask her if you can go through her phone a…
/r/Divorce_Men24/08/24 05:03 PM
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You want to figure out what a woman is thinking??!! Haha. Move TF on bro. Stop wasting your life having hope with this woman.
/r/Divorce_Men22/08/24 06:46 PM
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No. If your kids want to get her something, then buy it. You don't. She will have a new man at some point, and that would just be odd. You are a co-parent at that point.
/r/Divorce_Men18/08/24 12:54 PM
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Stop drinking for now. Clear your mind. Become independent again. As a lifeling beer drinker, i went off the rails after divorce. Hooking up with many young women. No, this is not bragging, trust me. It did not help in any way. I have not had beer in 3 years, and my mind is clear.
/r/Divorce_Men17/08/24 02:08 PM
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She is out f%$%%% other guys. That's the grim reality. Ask her if you can look through her phone and just watch her face when you do. Women have a guy on the hook before they announce separation/divorce. And stop the chivalrous 'i'm not filing because i want to work it out'. When you find out what she's been doing, it will change your mind quickly. Go file. It's over. This story is played over and over. Its more the norm than the exception. Good luck bro.
/r/Divorce_Men11/08/24 02:02 PM
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You are endlessly helpful. Reconciliation rarely works out long term. Think about it.....she is saying that if it does not work out, THEN you MIGHT have a shot? F THAT. i would strongly advise you to break it off with your current girl if you are thinking about your ex. That's not exactly fair, either. Take some time off and become completely independent again and heal up. Good luck, bro.
/r/Divorce_Men08/08/24 11:47 AM
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Don't be fooled. A break means she wants to f%$% other guys. It's a harsh reality. Realize it is over. Women mourn the death of the marriage long before they 'want a break'. She is exploring plans A, B, and C. You are her plan D in case her other plans don't work. Don't be anyone's back up plan. Get the divorce ball rolling. I went and filed and did all the work to get it done. Don't beg, plead, manipulate, show her 'changes', etc. Start planning your new chapter that does not include her. This …
/r/Divorce_Men03/08/24 01:53 PM
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Lets fn go!
/r/Divorce_Men29/07/24 11:24 PM
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Just had rotator cuff surgery and itching to get back to the gym.
/r/Divorce_Men29/07/24 09:30 PM
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When a woman initiates separation/divorce, the decision was made months, if not years, before you find out. Women are emotional creatures and will have a connection set up with another male before telling you. This is called "monkey branching'. If you believe she is just talking to him because he has experience with divorce, i have oceanfront property to sell you in Arizona. You might think it's quick, but most likely, they have been 'talking' for some time. The intent of this comment is to brin…
/r/Divorce_Men29/07/24 09:27 PM
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A divorce is a woman's prenup.
/r/Divorce_Men29/07/24 08:52 PM
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It sucks but they start planning for months, if not years. Once they find your potential replacement....boom. The switch occurs. Its game FN over at that point.
/r/Divorce_Men23/07/24 12:56 PM
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If this is a rant, cool. If this is something you plan on sending her....don't.
/r/Divorce_Men03/07/24 05:48 PM
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You THINK you are done? It is over bro whether you want it or not. When a woman is done, it's over. She has already planned this out and likely has a guy lined up. Stop trying with her. Get organized and get an attorney. It's a rough process, and it can take years to recover, but realize this chapter of your life is done. Don't beg. plead, manipulate, be overly nice, or try and show her 'changes'. This is a business transaction now. The person you married is long gone. Good luck.
/r/Divorce_Men03/07/24 01:15 PM
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My oldest daughter is similar. People in our family die, and she has zero emotion. You keep being a great dad. Do not try and 'spoil' her and just keep being supportive. Kids see through the b.s. eventually. My oldest decided to live with me 4 years ago and is slowly opening up. I'm pretty unemotional myself and according to our ex's we are all 'the bad guy'. My daughter recently started showing appreciation for the daily things i do. I dont expect it, but its nice to hear. I can't think of a si…
/r/Divorce_Men02/07/24 02:51 PM
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If you could see her phone, that tells the real story. Living together while separated sucks. Its hell, especially when you find out the dudes she's banging. Why does she have to file? Because she wanted it....right? No, she wants to use you as an emotional tampon and babysitter. My ex wanted to remain married 10 more years until the kids turned 18. Meanwhile, she's out banging dudes. F that. Grab your balls, get your power back and go file.
/r/Divorce_Men18/06/24 02:18 PM
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She gave no reason? I'll tell you. She wants to f%$$ other dudes. She just won't tell you this. Yes, this is harsh, but it is reality. Someone (a guy) has paid attention to her and giving her thoughts of a 'better' life. When a woman initiates separation/divorce, it is over, IMO. They have thought about this for months or even years. Women don't initiate separation/ divorce without a place to land. Counseling is a waste of time at this point....she has one foot out the door. Good luck man.
/r/Divorce_Men18/06/24 02:01 PM
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Well that, and STD's / risk of pregnancy. Plus, you don't go digging in the trash for 'dinner'. Have boundaries and self respect for yourself. Don't hook up with someone who discarded you like trash and is likely banging other men.
/r/Divorce_Men12/06/24 09:46 PM
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They feel better about initiating divorce if they can still use you as an emotional tampon and be 'friends'. Mine did the same thing. F that. And don't do the sex thing.....guarantee she's banging other dudes.
/r/Divorce_Men12/06/24 06:00 PM
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Same. My ex said "i can see why people don't divorce". Haha. That's what she gets. She wanted it so damn bad. She also said she's entering peri-menopause. Good luck out there.
/r/Divorce_Men11/06/24 02:04 PM
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F no. Women always have a fairytale mindset. They announce separation/divorce and have a guy already lined up. They f %$% that guy (or several guys), and when that does not work out, they come back to plan b, which is you. This is very common. They will NEVER tell you this, but they do not respect guys who 'take them back'. Your relationship would never be the same. Have resoect for yourself and move on. Taking her back means she broke your boundaries, but you are willing to overlook it. It's li…
/r/Divorce_Men09/06/24 12:16 PM
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It's definitely not biological for human's to pair together for life. Lol. A man's biological mission to populate the Earth by having unlimited sex with unlimited women. And no one is shaming you. Just pointing out to other men that you don't need a woman to be happy and content with life. We can not agree, but i still wish you the best, bro.
/r/Divorce_Men05/06/24 11:54 PM
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These 'it gets better' posts always involve an 'awesome' new woman. Haha. The streak continues. Men can be happy and content in life without a relationship. All relationships are 'awesome' in the beginning, or else none of us would have married in the first place. This is not hate, it's reality. Good luck, though, man. Enjoy, but don't make her the center of your universe.
/r/Divorce_Men05/06/24 01:10 PM
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Most women get a new guy before they announce divorce/separation. They don't just divorce to be sitting at home, knitting blankets, and going to bed at 8 pm. She has cried to some other dude about how 'terrible' her marriage is and what a monster you are. The guy wants to get his d%$$ wet. This scenario is played over and over again on this sub. At some point, we need to call it the norm, not the exception. Now, you going out, and plowing a bunch of women will not impact her one bit. It can be f…
/r/Divorce_Men03/06/24 08:01 PM
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You are her backup plan while she explores other options. You are plan B at best. She is looking or has been with other men. Now, her plan B (you) is changing it up, which puts more pressure on plan A guy. Get out of this marriage. People who 'love' you don't say they don't see a future with you. F that. A trip with her sister? I doubt it.
/r/Divorce_Men03/06/24 03:54 PM
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No. She would not do the same for you. Some part of you still seeks validation from her. You want some reason to reach out. Dig deep and don't message her.
/r/Divorce_Men03/06/24 03:40 PM
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Is there no other service during week or on saturday? Most churches also have virtual options as well.
/r/Divorce_Men02/06/24 05:36 PM
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Do not agree to anything and get an attorney stat. She will go for custody no matter what. Protect yourself. Chances are she has a dude in the background. She has been planning all this for months, if not years. Do not move out and again, do not agree to anything.
/r/Divorce_Men02/06/24 02:17 PM
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'I know she is not cheating'. No, you don't. You just don't want to believe she is capable. Do you know how many men have said there was 'no cheating', only to find out different?? Women don't leave without a place to land. You need to realize that women mourn the death of the marriage long before they announce separation/divorce. There is NO going back after that. The man begs, pleads, manipulates, makes 'changes', makes promises, suggests marriage counseling, looks up 'how to save a marriage',…
/r/Divorce_Men25/05/24 02:27 AM
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She's smoking crack. $100k is barely middle class in this economy.
/r/Divorce_Men24/05/24 01:41 PM
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Wtf? Bro. In the amount of time it took to type this out, you could have called an attorney. She is fu%$$$ other dudes and you have therapy scheduled? It is OVER. Women mourn the death of the marriage long before they tell you. They start testing the market with other men and keep you as a backup just in case. Have some respect for yourself and get the divorce going. Women do not respect men who 'take them back', especially after cheating. Read 'No More Mr Nice Guy' and stop being a doormat.
/r/Divorce_Men23/05/24 02:47 PM
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She is renting space in your head, it's time to evict her. Who fn cares what she thinks or does any longer? Ignore, block, and focus on what you can control....yourself. if you have kids, talk about the kids and that's it. Stop getting involved in drama like this, or you will never heal. Good luck man.
/r/Divorce_Men22/05/24 11:52 PM
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Haha! Yes its James Bond 000 staring in 'GetNoPu@@y' a sequel to Octopu@@y.
/r/Divorce_Men22/05/24 02:19 PM
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Yes, she is part owner and has to sign listing agreements (which include price) in order to sell and closing documents once the house is sold.
/r/Divorce_Men22/05/24 10:37 AM
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Yes!!
/r/Divorce_Men22/05/24 09:59 AM
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Women say this to get sympathy, attention, and validation online. Men don't typically need this b.s. as posting emotional stuff like this is a turn-off to most women. Women also post sh$$ like this so other men know they are single. Imagine if James Bond went on a healing journey......f that. We build back better and stronger.
/r/Divorce_Men22/05/24 09:58 AM
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I say i'm never getting married again and people call me bitter. F that. No, i'm making an informed decision based on facts, stats, and my experience. Lol. Get in the gym, do hobbies, travel, dress better, make new friends and be the best dad (if you have kids) you can be. If you understand women, you won't get pissed when they do what they do.
/r/Divorce_Men21/05/24 07:52 PM
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She wants to bang her ex (if she hasn't already)and you are pondering this relationship? Have respect for yourself and end it
/r/Divorce_Men21/05/24 03:59 PM
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You need to turn up your 'i don't give a f%%&' meter. Why does it matter? If she fails in life, that's on her. You will never figure out the 'why' from a woman. Women leave because they think they can do better, which is seldom the case over the long term.
/r/Divorce_Men21/05/24 01:23 PM
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Mine started 'amicable' as well, which ended up meaning she wanted everything. Just wait until her friends, family and attorney tell her to go after 'what is hers'. Worst case, you get an attorney, and don't lose your ass.
/r/Divorce_Men20/05/24 10:15 PM
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Got it. I mean, unless she blatantly tarnished your name (defamation), it's a waste of time. They are always the victim.
/r/Divorce_Men20/05/24 06:22 PM
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Why have you not blocked her? Your side does not matter. People pick sides no matter what. All of us are villains in their story. My ex said she 'felt like a battered woman". GTFOh. I worked 80 hours a week, did all kid activities, and she's out banging ugly dudes. F that.
/r/Divorce_Men20/05/24 05:53 PM
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Facts
/r/Divorce_Men18/05/24 08:08 PM
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Assuming you are the woman. Women rarely take accountability. Even if they do it's far too fn late.
/r/Divorce_Men18/05/24 02:45 PM
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Doh! Wow. Lol. Great call out. Thank you
/r/Divorce_Men18/05/24 02:25 PM
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You are missing the entire point. Good luck man. Keep lifting heavy weights.
/r/Divorce_Men18/05/24 02:12 PM
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Well, she can post a gym spandex picture and have 200+ weak men in her dm's that day. That is not the reality for 99% of men. Don't put p%%$ on a pedestal. Im not saying don't get laid, but don't focus on it. Gym, build your career, start an additional business, get a good group of guys, start some new hobbues, etc. Unless you are Brad Pitt you are not going to be swimming in p$%$. Women have thousands of options. Even average 5's get tons of weak ass men trying to get laid. A man who is a 5 get…
/r/Divorce_Men18/05/24 01:49 PM
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Your story is like thousands of others. Wife 'not happy' but keeps it to herself. Well, women communicate overtly (men directly), so in her mind, she has 'told' you she is unhappy. Women start testing the market with other men, and when the weak man bites, that is all the evidence they need. The cheat emotionally / physically then create some kind of friction on purpose with the current husband. I noticed mine creating fights over tiny things. Anyway, it does not matter. Get her to move tf out. …
/r/Divorce_Men18/05/24 01:11 PM
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This is the only karma' that you can hope to get. Do not respond. I had similar comments after 5 years. I think women in general realize that life is not some disney movie. They keep chasing 'better' but in their 40's/50's they realize they can't get better. Who knows? She might be fighting with her new man. Just think, she probably did the same thing (reaching out to other men) during the beginnings of your own separation/divorce. Stay strong.
/r/Divorce_Men18/05/24 12:21 PM
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What kind of idiots do you hang out with? This is like high school stuff. Hot boy summer? This can't be real.
/r/Divorce_Men18/05/24 01:48 AM
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50% divorce rate and another 40% married and unhappy or getting cheated on. Many with multiple divorces. Trust me, no one is going to judge you.
/r/Divorce_Men17/05/24 11:18 PM
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Bigger question.....why does she still have access to view your story? Block
/r/Divorce_Men17/05/24 02:58 PM
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This happens in most cases. Women plan all this before announcing separation/divorce. They mourned the loss of marriage long ago and have men lined up. Guys are always like......'there was no cheating'. Yeah, maybe on your part. Women, even married women, get hit on non stop so they can hit the ground running. Get out of the co-habitation b.s. ASAP. It is stressful and frustrating. If she wanted divorce (which is the case 80% of the time), have her move out. Get the divorce done quickly while sh…
/r/Divorce_Men17/05/24 11:25 AM
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Men need to understand that once a woman brings up divorce or separation, it is OVER. They have been planning this for months or years. They have grieved the end of the marriage, and most have moved on emotionally/physically with another man (or have plans to). They don't divorce to sit around the house, knitting blankets, and going to bed at 8 pm. Male attention is currency to most women. The man finds out about separation / divorce and go into 'fix it' mode. We are good at hammering on one sin…
/r/Divorce_Men16/05/24 10:04 PM
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Each woman i have dated that said they did not want kids, eventually starting dropping hints about having kids. The population of women who do not have kids, are not overweight, don't post thirsty photos online, don't have hundreds of male 'friends', and don't want to marry are very, very few. I'm not compromising at my age, and i'm fine with the outcome.
/r/Divorce_Men14/05/24 06:25 PM
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If this is something you are sending to her, don't. Print this out and burn it as part of the healing process.
/r/Divorce_Men12/05/24 10:37 AM
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Yes, i agree, but that's nothing new. That's why i gave the example of the man being the exact same except for provisioning items (job, $$, car). But saying material items are b.s. is not accurate. That's like saying youth and beauty don't matter to men.
/r/Divorce_Men11/05/24 01:58 PM
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Lol. They DO want the guy with the ferrari they just can't get him. If you take a man that has the exact same in looks. One works at starbucks and drives a honda. The other ownes several companies and drives a ferrari....who will they choose if given the choice? It's like men picking between the exact woman, but one is 40, and one is 27. But i do agree that confidence is a huge factor.
/r/Divorce_Men11/05/24 01:48 PM
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Guys who are 6' are not swimming in p$%%. Looks, money, career, body type. Etc all come into play. A car might have a v12, but it might be a 1982 rustbucket. Women just have way more options than men. A girl that's a 7 gets way more attention online than a guy that's a 7. That girl then thinks she's a 10. Guys need to stop liking and commenting on womens pictures, thinking they have a chance. It's inflating women's ego. We have average 5's thinking they are 10's. 100% of women go after the top 2…
/r/Divorce_Men11/05/24 01:15 PM
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Just don't marry. If you do, get a prenup. A divorce is the woman's prenup, so they have insurance even if they sabotage the marriage.
/r/Divorce_Men11/05/24 01:07 PM
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Im in Texas, so in my state she'd do a cash out refinance. She'd do it for $63,000 and pay you that money. You'd be taken off the deed, and it would be in her name. I know mobile homes work a little differently, depending if you own the land....so im just doing a general example. Overall guidance is to get an attorney.
/r/Divorce_Men09/05/24 05:38 PM
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No, there is zero benefit, and you'd be lucky at a 30% success rate. Are you jumping out of a plane with a 30% chance the parachute opens? I'm no co-habitation (Texas) and no marriage. There is no way in hell I'm getting married in this modern era (with social media, etc). I learned my lesson the first time.
/r/Divorce_Men09/05/24 11:38 AM
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Separation is divorce practice and often involves her seeing if her plan A (her new man) is going to work out. A complete waste of time, unless you are in a state that requires it. Many people agree to separation as they secretly hope she will change her mind. She won't. Rip the band aid off my man. Good luck.
/r/Divorce_Men08/05/24 03:04 PM
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No response is a response. Leave it be
/r/Divorce_Men08/05/24 12:06 PM
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Her new man probably pumped and dumped her. Now she's trying to figure out what's next. Every woman has a plan before they announce divorce.
/r/Divorce_Men07/05/24 11:02 AM
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Set your goal by body fat %, not weight. Im in great shape, but according to BMI, i'm overweight. I find weight is just not a great measure of progress, IMO. I'm also huge on clean ingredients. You can eat sweet things that are clean, but most stuff out there is trash. The FDA is not your friend. My weakness is cereal, but instead of trash i get Seven Sundays brand. A lot of the items in the u.s. are banned in europe. My opinion is that preservatives, natural flavors, and artificial sweetners im…
/r/Divorce_Men04/05/24 02:46 PM
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Courts do not care. A woman is incentivized by the court system to cheat, divorce, etc. A divorce is the womans pre-nup.
/r/Divorce_Men03/05/24 08:34 PM
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It's not puzzling, really. Women go with feelings. When they become 'unhappy' during marriage, someone must be assigned that blame. That person is you. Even when they cheat, in her mind, it was really because of you. This is why men never get any kind of apology. In addition, they still carry this dream of being some 'disney princess'. When the new guy pumps and dumps her, she realizes maybe she didn't have it so bad in her marriage. My own ex-wife will never admit this, but she mentioned it was…
/r/Divorce_Men03/05/24 08:31 PM
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This is how 2nd divorces start. Every new person seems so awesome compared to your ex. But guess what, you said the same thing about your ex at one point, or you wouldn't have married in the first place. Pump the damn brakes and be alone for awhile instead of jumping into something new because you need the validation. Get the divorce done. You think you are healed because you and your ex have not been close lately? Doubtful. Go out and meet people...sure. But you seem way to eager in this new re…
/r/Divorce_Men02/05/24 04:22 PM
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No. Often, one person still has feelings for the other and secretly hopes time will 'change her mind'. Are you ready to hear about dudes plowing your ex wife? That's what friends talk about. You'll just be another male orbitor on her friends list to give her the male validation most women seek.
/r/Divorce_Men29/04/24 04:39 PM
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Would you jump out of a parachute with a 25% chance of it opening? No. All relationships start of 'awesome', but you think it's forever. A divorce is a woman's pre nup. And you are not lucky to have her. Women have the same plumbing, and there are millions out there. Thinking like that will have you thinking illogically. Maybe you are the damn prize. Ask her to name 1 advantage of having the government involved in your relationship. And don't get fooled by the taxes. The benefits are nominal, at…
/r/Divorce_Men28/04/24 11:50 AM
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There are a lot of scamers and fake profiles of women on dating apps wanting to f%%%. Especially when you first join. Not trying to burst your bubble, but don't expect that from non prostitutes/only fans women.
/r/Divorce_Men28/04/24 12:38 AM
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You got this man! Believe in yourself. This is your new chapter.
/r/Divorce_Men27/04/24 03:01 PM
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"Please do not contact me unless it is about the kids. I will not read it or respond, Thank you" That's it. Done. Stop focusing on her man, her mental health, etc. Focus on you and your kid(s). Trust me, she is not worried about anything you've been through. Set some boundries and stick to them. There is no going back to this woman. Have some respect for yourself. Good luck man.
/r/Divorce_Men27/04/24 02:26 PM
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It sucks, but get the 'reconciliation' thoughts out of your brain. Let me guess, you've typed 'How long do affairs last?' and 'how to save a marriage' into google. You are better than that, man. Respect yourself, or no one will. Once a woman sleeps with another man, it's done. Why would you want that back in your life? So you can watch your back non stop? You wonder who she is texting? You wonder why there is a passcode on her phone? Women do not respect men who take them back after cheating. It…
/r/Divorce_Men26/04/24 08:22 PM
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That's crazy bro! Man, always trust your gut. My best friend just got divorced. His wife was going on 'work trips' to alaska, but turned out she was going to see a guy in a different state. Secret cell phones, credit cards, etc. Turns out the guy was his best friend from high school who was married. He was the best man at his wedding.
/r/Divorce_Men26/04/24 07:54 PM
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Many women get a new guy in the mix. Once there seems to be a future, she initiates separation/divorce. When that guy pumps and dumps her, she comes back to her husband, who is her plan B. Don't fall for this b.s.
/r/Divorce_Men26/04/24 07:49 PM
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"He's just a friend". Many women, even married women, have 'friends' and 'followers' as back up plans. Women get hit on non stop, even when married. Some men don't give af. Women are in the workforce more and get hit on there also. If your relationship or marriage is not going well, they have 5 dudes they could have sex with that night. Unfortunately, male validation is currency to most women. Maybe guys would be the same if they had multiple women hitting on them every day, but thats not the ca…
/r/Divorce_Men26/04/24 07:37 PM
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Yes, the original video, which is pretty short, was taken down. His 2-3 hour podcasts are not for me either. But i do agree....the basics of women (and probably men) are universal.
/r/Divorce_Men22/04/24 10:30 AM
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I was wondering what happened to the other version.
/r/Divorce_Men21/04/24 10:18 PM
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Watch 'The Marriage Wheel' by Coach Greg Adams on youtube and see how it stacks up against your experience.
/r/Divorce_Men21/04/24 07:56 PM
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Yeah bro. She mailed back all my elementary school pictures sent to them over the years. Weird af. I don't care about the $$, honestly, but my dad is 68 and still working 2 jobs.
/r/Divorce_Men21/04/24 01:54 PM
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Marriage and divorce is a huge business. Women grow up getting brainwashed by disney movies. They live for the wedding and ring to show off to other women. Unfortunately, social media has ruined marriage. Attention is like currency to most women, and there are thirsty dudes who will hit on your woman, married or not. When their marriage is not doing well, they have 20 dudes on their backup roster. 'He's just a friend'....lol. No marriage, no co habitation for me. I'm too old (48) to go through t…
/r/Divorce_Men21/04/24 12:23 PM
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If you can't be happy alone, you will never be happy with someone else. Get rid of social media for a while. People only post 20% of their life, and it's all 'happy' moments. It makes others feel like trash, but it's not reality. I know couples who hate each other, but they post pictures of themselves together, smiling on social media. Figure out things YOU like to do. I'm so good with myself now, i will not co-habitate with a woman again. This was not always the case.
/r/Divorce_Men21/04/24 12:10 PM
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'I need space' is another term for 'i'm exploring new di%%'. Meanwhile, she is going to keep you as plan B on case her plan A does not work out. They are mixed signals to you, but not her. The sooner you realize this, the better. Get any idea of 'getting her back' out of your brain. Women mourn the death of the marriage months, if not years, before you find out. 'My wife would never do that' had been said over and over on this sub, only to find out the truth later. Get the divorce ball rolling, …
/r/Divorce_Men21/04/24 12:03 PM
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The 'divorce diet' is real. Not hungry, can't sleep, loss of concentration at work, etc. I'm 5 years out and now sleep like a baby. It takes time. I'm very athletic but lost a lot of muscle mass after divorce.
/r/Divorce_Men21/04/24 11:51 AM
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That a great point. I'd say home value less payoff amount, which gives credit for escrow credits, suspense funds, etc.
/r/Divorce_Men20/04/24 10:08 PM
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She's gone. Learn all you can about the female brain. Women do not respect men who try and 'save the marriage'. Women will not respect you if you take them back, especially after cheating. Its over.
/r/Divorce_Men20/04/24 08:09 PM
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Forgiveness is over-rated. You'll get to a point where you don't care anymore. If anyone needs forgiveness, its you. As men, we often get and take the blame 100%. My ex was out banging dudes, but of course, everything was 100% my fault. GTFOH. Be kind to yourself, but your goal is no emotion towards her, and it takes time.
/r/Divorce_Men20/04/24 07:33 PM
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Its based on equity, not what was paid. She is trying to dupe you. House worth $500k. Mortgage is $200k. You get $150k (equity $300k) if she wants to buy you out.
/r/Divorce_Men20/04/24 07:01 PM
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Yep, its the script. There is no beating around the bush......she is with another dude. Women rarely seek divorce without some place to land. My ex said i could have full custody. But after the affair died (after i filed divorce) she said she never said that. The only thing you can do is push this divorce through while she's busy with him. You can get more favorable terms. But when they break up, she will come for 'what's hers' which is everything. If you want to get pissed, go for it but bringi…
/r/Divorce_Men20/04/24 02:44 PM
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A great woman with 3 kids? I guess you'll have to learn another life lesson.
/r/Divorce_Men19/04/24 11:58 AM
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This is probably after she got pumped and dumped by some dude. Ignore it.
/r/Divorce_Men19/04/24 11:56 AM
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These 'it gets better' posts always end with 'I met an amazing new woman'. 🤣
/r/Divorce_Men18/04/24 10:36 AM
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I mean, it doesn't have to be the first thing out of your mouth. But you will learn that women will want to know very early on, and usually on first date. They want to make sure you are not married / just separated. I've never had issues saying i'm divorced. I don't use dating apps but i think most have marital status that has to be filled out.
/r/Divorce_Men15/04/24 05:09 PM
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Would you want a woman to tell you she's single or divorced?
/r/Divorce_Men15/04/24 12:19 PM
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Just because you don't forgive does not mean you are angry. I just don't care any longer. There are certain things I don't forgive. I would not expect someone to forgive me if i did these things either. 'Forgiveness is for you' is a load of b.s.
/r/Divorce_Men14/04/24 11:13 AM
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Great advice here OP
/r/Divorce_Men14/04/24 10:51 AM
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Tech would be tough right now. The market was on fire a few years ago, but not so much now. Maybe if you focused on AI. After my divorce, i got my masters in IT. I see little difference. But i just wanted to learn (and am in the field), plus my ex wife went to school for 20 years, and i felt i could not go when she was. Ironically, after she got her job.....yep.....cheated. same script, different person. Anyway....i think accounting would be good. Could you do anything medical? I read about the …
/r/Divorce_Men14/04/24 10:48 AM
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As you mentioned, Texas is no fault. Forget about getting any leverage for her cheating. The only thing you can hope for is that she wants to be with the new guy and just agrees to give you what you want. Get the divorce rolling quickly. My ex gave me the house, but after they broke up, she constantly talked about how unfair the settlement was. I posted about this, but its been 7 years, and i'm putting house on the market. She had the balls to ask how much she was getting from the home sale. GTF…
/r/Divorce_Men13/04/24 12:02 PM
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Her plan A guy did not work out, so it's time for plan B....you. Hell no bro.
/r/Divorce_Men30/03/24 01:07 PM
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Get your power back and go file. I get it's not a good time b/c of your father, but there is no perfect time. Give her what she wants! I did the same. Best feeling ever.
/r/Divorce_Men29/03/24 11:41 AM
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It's over. I'm not going to kick you while you are down, but she's not knitting blankets and going to bed at 8:00 pm every night. Stop fighting for someone who does not give a single g about you. All you are doing is giving her validation and proving she can treat you like trash, but you still want her. Reconcilliation is a bunch of b.s. This is not the movies. It sucks and can take months / years to get over, but you've got to have a dose of reality. It takes 2 to marry, but 1 to divorce. Good …
/r/Divorce_Men18/03/24 10:26 PM
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I just posted something similar last week. I got house in 2018 divorce while she was mesmerized by the affair. There was no equity when she left. Im listing my house next month. Her question was,'How much do I get?'?? Gtfoh. Don't give in, or it will NEVER stop. She would not do the same if roles were reversed, trust me.
/r/Divorce_Men18/03/24 07:59 PM
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It may not seem like it, but you have plenty of time. You are hitting prime earning years. Be careful not to rush into a relationship just to have kids. Co-parenting with the wrong person can be tough. P.s. There will be many women yiur age hitting 'the wall' so be cateful as they want a child as their fertility declines. The best thing you can do for your future kids is heal first and take care of yourself. Good luck.
/r/Divorce_Men18/03/24 09:49 AM
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Yep, she was too focused on her affair to care. They broke up quickly after.....shocking! Lol
/r/Divorce_Men17/03/24 12:03 AM
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Yep, its crazy. She makes as much as i do and her rent has been $2000/month since 2017.
/r/Divorce_Men16/03/24 02:43 PM
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Nope, never. She won't apologize. And honestly, I just don't care any longer. Women and accountability don't go together, IMO. She would never admit to wanting to get back together as she knows I would never take her back. Burn a bridge with me, ir's over.
/r/Divorce_Men15/03/24 11:54 PM
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Thats actually great thinking. 10-4. Thanks man.
/r/Divorce_Men15/03/24 08:53 PM
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Haha....i'm the same. I just could not resist. It's about the best karma i can probably get. She commented "i can see why people don't divorce" when we were discussing the economy. I was like wtf? Especially coming from a cheater.
/r/Divorce_Men15/03/24 08:52 PM
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Exactly this!
/r/Divorce_Men15/03/24 08:20 PM
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I'm rooting for you bro! Thanks for chiming in.
/r/Divorce_Men15/03/24 08:18 PM
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Thanks bro! Yeah, the attorney said it would be $7k to start the child support battle. I just decided against it for that price. Thank you for the comment.
/r/Divorce_Men15/03/24 08:17 PM
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I like this approach! 🤣
/r/Divorce_Men15/03/24 08:13 PM
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Many women are there to work out and don't want to be bothered. The rest wear spandex up their ass 5" looking for free validation. The latter is for short-term fun only. I can't believe dudes actually date these thirsty women.
/r/Divorce_Men12/03/24 09:15 PM
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You got two trash people out of your life. I would never touch any of my friends' exes, period. That's breaking unwritten bro code. My friend just got a divorce. She was booking 'work trips' to see a guy. It turned out to be the best man from his wedding 16 years ago. Women cheat more than you think and there are always thirsty beta dudes thinking they found 'the one'.
/r/Divorce_Men11/03/24 01:41 PM
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Nothing is free. You pay, one way or another. It could be your time, resources, paying for dates, etc.
/r/Divorce_Men10/03/24 06:15 PM
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Yeah, every 'it gets better post' involves an 'awesome' new woman. Haha. All our ex-wives were awesome in the beginning, or else we would not have married in the first place. Just don't focus on women for happiness or fear of being alone. At the end of the day, we all die alone. And sex is transactional, no matter how you disect it. You either pay $$ or pay for dates, give up your energy/time, etc. You are giving up something to get laid.
/r/Divorce_Men10/03/24 06:08 PM
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No judgment either way, but once kids hit those teen years, they don't want to hang out with you. By the time they are 18, you have already spent 75% of your time with them. The other 25% are the few times a year you see them on holidays, etc. You can't get time back.
/r/Divorce_Men04/03/24 11:48 PM
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Reconciliation is a fn joke. Same with nesting, especially when you find out about other dudes she is banging. Most guys do this, hoping she will change her mind. It will NOT happen. She was done months/years ago. It takes two to be married but only one to divorce. Why are you leaving the home? If she wants the divorce, have her leave. Get an attorney and get the ball rolling. The sooner you get reconciliation out of your head, the better off you will be. It's all business now. Protect yourself …
/r/Divorce_Men04/03/24 01:54 PM
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"Do NOT text me about things not related to our kids. I will not read them or reply. " You could have been a model husband, but you will ALWAYS be the bad guy. Someone has to be blamed for her 'unhappiness'. I don't make the rules.
/r/Divorce_Men03/03/24 04:47 PM
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'A friends house'...right. it's a guy. After you got off the phone they laughed about it together. Not trying to kick you while down, but you have to realize it is over. It doesn't matter what you did for her in the past. Women's brains do not work like that. You are the bad guy now. She has told new guy how horrible you are (even though you are probably a good guy). Stop depending on her for anything. Go file. Get on a payment plan, put it on a credit card. Do it while she is with new guy as yo…
/r/Divorce_Men03/03/24 03:40 PM
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Women don't initiate separation/divorce to sit at their mom's knitting blankets and going to bed at 8:00 p.m. Whether you believe this now or find out later.....she is testing the waters with a new guy. You are plan B if things fall through. 'Not my wife' is what most say until they find out later. You chasing, wanting to 'talk it out' is giving her the validation that you need her. This is not a game, but you have to turn your 'i don't give a f' meter way up. You don't talk to her unless it's a…
/r/Divorce_Men03/03/24 12:46 AM
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No fn way. Simp behavior, especially when in 70-90% of the time, the woman initiates divorce/separation.
/r/Divorce_Men28/02/24 02:04 PM
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Yes, start preparing. Don't mistake her not filing with wanting to stay together. You will say 'not my wife' like i first did, but she has been done months, if not years. There is usually another man involved. My ex wanted to stay married 10 more years until the kids turned 18 while she's out banging dudes. No FN thanks. I did ALL the work to file, just like everything else in the marriage. Find a way. Attorneys have free consultations, payment plans, etc. I'm telling you, do NOT waste months th…
/r/Divorce_Men26/02/24 12:23 PM
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You got half the truth, if that. She leaves out other occurrences that she was physically banged. Either with that dude or another one. Get the ball rolling. There are no second chances. The thing is, cheating women lose respect for men who take them back. It's over.
/r/Divorce_Men21/02/24 02:56 PM
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The dude she was banging and ended the marriage for dumped her. Now, her back up plan....you....is officially moving on. Don't worry about it. Don't ever return to a woman who initiated divorce. Period. Ironically, they won't respect you for taking them back.
/r/Divorce_Men20/02/24 11:35 PM
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Bro, stop being a nice guy. She's in love, and probably banging her ex, and you give her the house and money? F that. Stop. Call an attorney TODAY and get your balls back from her.
/r/Divorce_Men20/02/24 11:28 PM
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If the shoe was on the other foot, she would not hesitate to divorce you.
/r/Divorce_Men20/02/24 08:42 PM
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5 months is not a long time. You still have to go through the grieving the loss. You can vacilate between stages or skip some altogether. Most women grieve the marriage before they announce separation/divorce initiation. This is how they can 'move on so fast'. When they announce, many men are hyper focused on fixing the marriage even when cheating is involved. Men are really good at getting a singular task and working on it until it's done. Women are better at working on working on multiple task…
/r/Divorce_Men19/02/24 09:11 PM
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There is a difference between taking the high road and being overly nice when you should not be. Read No More Mr Nice Guy by Dr Glover. Set boundaries, and stick to them. I'll keep my thoughts on remarriage to myself on this one, but all women start out awesome, or we never would have got married the 1st time. Protect yourself and be prepared to be the best man in the room at all times, especially if she makes a lot more than you. In this scenario, women file/initiate divorce 90% of the time. Go…
/r/Divorce_Men19/02/24 01:43 PM
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There is always judgment. When most women are not happy, they scour their mind to determine why. Something or someone has to be responsible for this feeling. This person is you. You are the bad guy, and only the negative things about you are recalled. They tell others about these things to help them justify separation/divorce. This is where they 're-write history about how awful you are. You are only as good as what you did yesterday. This is why 'reconciliation' is an absolute waste. Our minds …
/r/Divorce_Men14/02/24 01:24 PM
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I'm in Texas. Get an attorney, like yesterday. Do not sign a single thing. She's going for full custody, child support, and attorney fees. My ex wanted the divorce but would not lift a finger to file. I hired an attorney. I drew up a summary of the division of property (etc) and had her sign it. The attorney converted it to divorce petition. I think the only reason i was able to do this is because she cheated and just agreed to everything. She was blinded by her new man. They broke up after the …
/r/Divorce_Men14/02/24 01:05 PM
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Why does she need to come over? Leave the packages at the door or tell her to have them shipped to her place. The dog visits can stop. Have some boundaries and stick to them. "You will treat me with respect, or you will no longer be able to enter my home or visit the dogs" Don't be a punching bag. Stand up and deal with this. Enjoy the fish bro!
/r/Divorce_Men13/02/24 12:16 AM
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You don't have to be friends to have a good co-parenting relationship. My friends don't treat me like my ex wife did. Sorry, but being friends is over-rated. Discuss the kids, that's it. And yes, marriage counseling is a waste at the end. It really just prepares the couple for divorce. Good luck.
/r/Divorce_Men12/02/24 10:55 PM
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Be pissed at your wife. It was up to her to not give oyt her number. It was up to her to decline advances. It was up to her to not talk trash about you to him. It was up to her to not be a hoe. Yes, he's a d-bag....but she had every opportunity to stop it from day 1.
/r/Divorce_Men12/02/24 04:58 PM
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All our ex's were "ride or die" in the beginning. Otherwise, we would not have got married in the first place. My ex asked me to marry her. I should have stuck to my guns and said no. I'm not marrying again or co-habitating due to common law. 67-70% divorce rate? No, thanks. And your 'ride or die' has a professional degree? College educated women initiate separation/divorce 90% of the time. What is the benefit of a 2nd marriage vs a long term committed relationship? ? A marriage is the only cont…
/r/Divorce_Men11/02/24 05:00 PM
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Losing weight, sleep, etc is normal and will take time. Don't drink alcohol thinking that will help. Melatonin does not work for me but i bought an HCI based sleep aid that did. Its OTC. Prescription sleep aids did not help at all. I was more tired when i woke up and had nightmares. Make sure and exercise 3-4 days per week. You don't feel like it....i get it, but its huge with stress, etc.
/r/Divorce_Men28/01/24 03:19 PM
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Look on last years tax return.
/r/Divorce_Men27/01/24 07:37 PM
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Women have a man lined up 99.9% of the time. Don't be fooled. Don't go searching now. It's better you not know. I said the exact thing you are saying.....until i went digging. Who cares at this point, but keep this in mind for future relationships. Men and women cheat, but women are better at it.
/r/Divorce_Men26/01/24 02:36 PM
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No, not unless you can prove she is unfit. 50% custody is a win for most men in these biased courts. It doesn't matter if you think she is unfit. Your attorney will know if you have a chance or not.
/r/Divorce_Men26/01/24 02:20 PM
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Hope you wore protection. Guarantee she's banging other dudes.
/r/Divorce_Men25/01/24 11:10 PM
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'Seeking arrangements' App. I think it's called 'seeking' now. Sex is transactional no matter how you slice it, so you might as well cut out the b.s.
/r/Divorce_Men25/01/24 12:04 AM
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List out the benefits of marriage vs. being in a committed long-term relationship. What is the advantage of marriage??? If you choose to ignore all the posts it is going to be a rough marriage. Look to see if she: Has a lot of male friends Is a hyper user if social media (and not promoting her business) Friends with ex boyfriends Keeps her phone locked and hidden from you at all times Posts thirsty photos on social media Goes on 'girls night out' and 'girls trips' with her single friends Won't a…
/r/Divorce_Men24/01/24 11:21 PM
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Stay away from workplace women romantically.. If you still 'got it' then do it outside of work. It's an HR nightmare waiting to happen, especially these days, where everyone is offended. Good luck.
/r/Divorce_Men21/01/24 06:29 PM
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Would you jump out of a plane if your parachute had a nearly 70% chance of failing? Name one benefit of marriage. Tax benefits are minimal these days. No marriage or co-habitation (due to common law) for me. With courts, no fault divorce, social media, etc.....no thanks. My ex wife asked me to marry her. I should have stuck to my guns and said no. Everyone's situation is different, but if you choose to get married, you better vet that person out and take steps to protect yourself.
/r/Divorce_Men19/01/24 01:03 PM
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I heard someone say, 'divorce is the woman's prenup'. So very true.
/r/Divorce_Men14/01/24 04:06 PM
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Exactly. By the time you hear 'divorce' or separation, she's been done for months, if not years. Most have a replacement lined up or already or are cheating with the guy. In her mind, she has covertly communicated her unhappiness through the last months/years. Men communicate differently and don't pick up on these 'hints'. Once the man hears the news, he begs, pleads, manipulates for her not to file. In her mind, she has said 'i don't want you' and can't understand why the husband still wants he…
/r/Divorce_Men08/01/24 09:57 PM
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Ironically, cheaters have zero respect for a man who takes them back. Stay strong.
/r/Divorce_Men08/01/24 09:16 PM
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College educated women initiate divorce / separation at a higher rate. The assumption is that college educated women earn more, so i suppose those dots can be connected. Personally, i think women who earn more don't respect the lower earning husband. They certainly don't respect stay at home dads IMO.
/r/Divorce_Men29/12/23 08:39 PM
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Just don't pull an Arnold Schwarzenegger and get the nanny pregnant!
/r/Divorce_Men28/12/23 04:03 PM
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Why? In most cases, people want to be friends because they still have feelings for the other person. They think that being friends will magically show them they made a mistake by initiating divorce/separation. They hang on and be super nice to show their ex their new 'changes' This will not end well for you. Are you ready to hear about dudes she's banging? That's what 'friends' talk about. If you get into a relationship, are you going to tell her your friends with your ex? That's a huge red flag…
/r/Divorce_Men26/12/23 06:00 PM
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Ex wife brutally left you? And in May? Seems awfully soon to be in a full-fledged relationship. Have you even started the mourning process? Is your son over the divorce? You know yourself and son the best. Of course, the new girl is remarkable. All relationships start that way, it's brain chemicals. Most relationships last, on average, 18 months. I'd wait a little longer. He's an adult, so maybe get his input, but don't push the issue. Maybe he is not ready after the brutal divorce between you a…
/r/Divorce_Men09/12/23 05:53 PM
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Then what is the point of counseling?? She wants to leave, and you won't take her back if she changes her mind? Total WOMBAT....waste of money, brains, and time.
/r/Divorce_Men09/12/23 05:03 PM
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She gets 7 months to explore plan A and has you, plan B, who will be waiting for her. Bro, this is not going to end well for you. You are an option for her. She knows you will take her back no matter what. This is just a lesson you'll have to learn on your own. At least read No More Mr. Nice Guy by Dr Robert Glover. Good luck.
/r/Divorce_Men08/12/23 11:07 PM
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Yes. It's a business deal at this point. Both parties should be content with what they walk away with. The problem is obviously some think a 80/20 split of marital assets is fair. 🤣 The more conflict, the more money is spent, which makes attorneys rich. After the divorce? No. Co-parent amicably if needed, but that's it.
/r/Divorce_Men08/12/23 07:59 PM
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Letting go of b.s you can't change is not forgiveness.
/r/Divorce_Men08/12/23 01:55 PM
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I'm the same. I don't get it. I'm not angry about her or her actions any longer. I simply don't care. I won't forgive her 'for me'. I don't see the point. It happened. it's over, and i can't change the past. Her actions are a reflection on her, not me.
/r/Divorce_Men08/12/23 12:30 AM
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Why would you make a pre sale deal? You sell it, pay off mortgage/fees, then split the profit 50/50. A buy-out occurs if one of you are keeping the house. Am i missing something?
/r/Divorce_Men07/12/23 11:38 PM
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My ex did the same. Tried to force feed the whole 'bonus dad' to them. My oldest got tired of it, she has lived with me the last few years 100%. They broke up naturally, and the oldest won't even visit her. You're under no obligation to this guy. Yes, keep your ears open and don't trash talk, but he's not their father figure. My own parents' divirce did not bother me much, it was the trash step parents after that did. I will not date women with kids. I'm there for the woman, not to raise another…
/r/Divorce_Men07/12/23 07:38 PM
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Her plan A is not working out, so she is back to plan B (you). Don't fall for it. She knows you'll take her back in an instant. Have some respect for yourself. You deserve better than someone who leaves you out like garbage.
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 10:33 PM
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Stop getting married. Stop common law marriage. Require prenups for every marriage. Impose a huge fine for infidelity. If it's a contract, then treat it like a contract, especially if one person breaches.
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 03:49 PM
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There is nothing marriage gives you that a long-term committed marriage cannot. Tax benefits are negligible. The divorce rate is 50%, and a good chunk of married people are not 'happy'. Women initiate separation/divorce 80% of the time, 90% if they are college educated. The days of 25/ 50-day wedding anniversaries are becoming less and less. Divorce does not fit humans, IMO. Men are on Earth to popilate by having unlimited sex with unlimited women. Women value provisioning and support. Women are…
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 01:57 PM
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If it's not a hell, yes, it's a no. Why are you waiting for a counseling session to state this to her? Counseling is a complete waste of time at this point in a relationship. She has a fantasy guy and you don't think she has cheated? You are in for a reality check. Many of us don't think our wives would ever cheat. 'They would not do that". "They don't have time". Lol. Men and women cheat, but women are better at it. The fact that she wants to f%$$ another dude would be enough for me. Stand up f…
/r/Divorce_Men05/12/23 05:45 PM
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My ex looked at a house directly across the street from me. I told her not to. Some will say 'do it for the kids', but not me. Are you prepared to see dudes coming over to bang your ex? Are you okay with her being in your business? She ended up moving about 1 mile away which is fine. I need a little space, but maybe 1 block away is enough for you. Good luck!
/r/Divorce_Men05/12/23 05:17 PM
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Peace and freedom. I can watch a single football game or go golfing without feeling like a p.o.s. i can work (im work from home) uninterrupted. I was always the one expected to handle kids because i was WFH. Like my job did not matter even though i made twice what she made.
/r/Divorce_Men05/12/23 02:12 PM
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That's the great thing about freedom, you don't have to be parts of subs that you don't care for. I like this sub aa its very straight up, even if i don't necessarily agree. Maybe stick to the regular divorce sub or create a 'positve divorce' sub of your own. Guys, in particular, can seldom speak their mind or vent on the real world for fear of lashback or being labeled a 'woman hater' or some other b.s. if your divorce went great, fantastic, but unfortunately, that is not the norm. I'm not gett…
/r/Divorce_Men03/12/23 06:40 PM
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"Jesus Christ.....it's Jason Bourne". Haha. Seriously. You are what you attract. If you are in the top 1% of men like you describe, you should have no problem. But those men have women non-stop. The real question is, why do you have this needy, attention seeking behavior? It's a total turn-off to women. I think you'll find the less you 'try', the more you'll get. Keep going on gym, money, hobbies, work, and be stoic.
/r/Divorce_Men02/12/23 01:20 PM
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Best 'karma' one can hope for
/r/Divorce_Men30/11/23 02:08 PM
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You don't listen to words. You do pay attention to actions. If she wanted to be together, she would take action. Right now, you are plan D in case A, B, and C don't work out. You got this, man.
/r/Divorce_Men28/11/23 07:49 PM
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You having no intention of filing makes it your circus. If you have insurance, you can put kid only on it. What happens if she takes out a loan, then says f mediation? What happens if she is in an accident and $10,000 is not covered by insurance. There is no line in the sand you can draw here with the boyfriend. Do you really think that if you have an issue with it, she is going to listen? My ex wife suggested we stay married 10 more years until our kids were 18! No FN way. She wanted all the co…
/r/Divorce_Men28/11/23 07:24 PM
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Yep, that sounds like the script to me. Get ready for zero accountability, responsibility, or apology.....EVER. In her mind, you basically made her do it. She will deny everything even if you have proof. Don't waste your time. Get the ball rolling while her mind is on him. Quick, fast, and business like. Good luck, man.
/r/Divorce_Men25/11/23 11:58 PM
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You are not sure you would want her back? Bro, work on this part. The answer is F no. The only karma you can hope for is her affair crashes, and she asks to come back, and you say F no. My ex cheating made it easier in the long run as i knew i would never take her back. Have boundaries and respect for yourself.
/r/Divorce_Men25/11/23 01:04 PM
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100% facts.
/r/Divorce_Men21/11/23 05:13 PM
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Most women start mourning the death of the marriage months or years before you find out. After that, it is game over. Women's 'happiness' has a sharp decline at a certain point (e.g. after kids) but a man's falls gradually over a longer period of time. Unless it's an extreme situation, men are willing to hang in there a lot longer. This is why you see women initiate divorce 80%-90% of the time. The man hears about the separation and panics. The suggest marriage counseling, make 'changes', types …
/r/Divorce_Men17/11/23 02:36 PM
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WOMBAT - waste of money, brains, and time. Marriage counseling is for when problems first start, not when one person is out the door.
/r/Divorce_Men15/11/23 09:30 PM
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Sorry to hear bro. It sucks. I did not expect anything, but my dad is 70 working two jobs and was always there for my grandpa but slowly got 'cut out' over time. For me, growing up, it was not my parents' divorce that impacted me, it was the multiple step dads/step moms that crushed me as a kid.
/r/Divorce_Men15/11/23 03:05 PM
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What does marriage bring you that a long-term committed relationship does not?? Do you think women really value the "in sicknesses and in health" part? No. Most of us die alone. The other person dies, you are in a nursing home where no one visits you, you have alzheimers, she divorces you, you are in hospital/hospice, etc. My grandpa, who was a multi millionaire, got re-married so he 'would not be alone'. He had a large trust set up for our side of the family. He started to decline, and she put …
/r/Divorce_Men14/11/23 09:58 PM
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So she wants more, adventurous sex and you can't give it to her because you are tired/not in the mood. Is this right? She has hit the wall and her biological clock is ticking to have a baby. She may act very irrational during this time. Separation is usually so she can 'find herself', which means she wants to go out and F other dudes in most cases. I guess i'm not clear on how she wants you to change. She wants more sex and wants you to be more adventurous in bed. Is that it? Many men have the o…
/r/Divorce_Men14/11/23 08:11 PM
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Space means she wants to F other guys, and probably is . She is exploring plan A. Hint: you are not plan A. Don't be the backup guy.
/r/Divorce_Men14/11/23 02:42 AM
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Many women who do extensive traveling will want to continue that during a relationship. Also, some women are sleeping with men all over the world while they travel. Most men want someone they can show things to, not a woman who has experienced everything in life (e.g." i've already been there 3 times").
/r/Divorce_Men14/11/23 01:31 AM
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Humans are interesting. We go through tough things in life and swear it won't happen again. For example, we party all night and extremely hung over and swear we won't drink again. Yet, a week later, it happens again. I'm not marrying again, not at my age (48). I stay on this sub, just to remind myself. The environment in the u.s. is not conducive to marriage any longer, IMO. Women grow up brainwashed by social media, disney movies, etc which shows them that some prince is going to swoop in and m…
/r/Divorce_Men13/11/23 01:19 PM
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Agree. I'm 48 now. No way am i losing 'half' again. It's been hard enough to rebuild wealth. If others get married again, go for it. Its not for me. It's like going to vegas and expecting to win long term.
/r/Divorce_Men09/11/23 07:42 PM
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Get ready for the 'who hurt you', 'you made a bad 1st choice', 'woman hater' comments. Lol. I get these all the time when i say i'm not getting married. People can do what they want, but stats are stats. I'm not jumping out of a plane with a 33% chance of my parachute working. Marriage is outdated and does not fit these modern times, IMO. Social media, only fans, movies, independent women, men liking thirsty womens posts, and unjust court systems have ruined marriage, IMO. Even if you don't get …
/r/Divorce_Men09/11/23 07:31 PM
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Haha. Wow. Nice bro!
/r/Divorce_Men07/11/23 11:59 PM
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It's tough bro. My dog had cancer surgery in january, turned 8 in march, and i had to put her down july 7th as cancer came back aggressively. Ironically, that is my ex and i's wedding date. At least i can now remember my awesome dog on that date. Take some pictures if you can. Just remember, you can tell when your dog has had enough. I could see it in my dogs eyes. She was ready.
/r/Divorce_Men07/11/23 10:35 PM
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You can demand all you want. Do you think her attorney/judge is going to agree to this? Am i reading this correct....you can take kids any/every holiday? Who's going to enforce a kid getting a phone at 13? I had the same stance initially but got kids' phones at 12 because i was tired of calling ex's phone to talk to them. You'll be likely fighting kids more on the phone/social media items. Other than that, i put on that she could not move out of school district until kids were 18. Im not driving…
/r/Divorce_Men07/11/23 07:22 PM
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If you think this incident with the parents caused this, i have some beacfront property in Antarctica to sell you. Solo trips, girls trips, girls nights out are the beginning of the end. Women go through divorce planning months or years before you find out. A majority are cheating or have a man lined up. 75-90% of women initiate divorce. Think about that. Your line of work makes it even more challenging. Get ready for "i love you, but I'm not in love with you" or "i want to find my happiness." I…
/r/Divorce_Men07/11/23 12:46 PM
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It's totally normal. Women go through the death of the marriage months/years before you find out. Many are cheating, or at minimum, have a man lined up. She feels 'unhappy', and someone must be responsible for this feeling. That person is you. This is when the woman starts to attach any negative situations (never positives) to you to justify her decision. You are the bad guy in their story. They have to tell the other man how terrible you treated her, etc. Why are you following her on social med…
/r/Divorce_Men03/11/23 03:33 PM
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There is a steep decline of women's 'happiness' after marriage / kids. A man's 'unhappiness' goes down gradually over time. Women initiate divorce 75-90% of the time. The 90% are usually 'professional' women with a college degree. A woman will start grieving the loss of the marriage months, if not years before you find out. Meanwhile, the man finds out and tries begging, pleading, manipulation, making changes, doing 'how to save my marriage' internet searches, suggesting marriage counseling, etc…
/r/Divorce_Men29/10/23 07:41 PM
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Hard no. Why? You can be cordial without being friends. Do you want to hear about dudes she's banging? That is what friends talk about. Do you want to be reminded of her cheating on each thirsty picture she posts on social media? No. Would you be okay dating a new woman who says 'my ex is a good friend'. Hell no. Usually, men/women are 'friends' because one or the other has feelings for the other. A self-respecting person who gets their boundries crossed (cheating) does not stay 'friends' with t…
/r/Divorce_Men29/10/23 01:54 PM
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No, its over. Most women decide divorce months or years before you find out. She determines she is 'unhappy' and guess what, someone has to be blamed for this feeling. That person is YOU. You are the bad guy in this story now. There will be zero accountability for her cheating because in her mind, she did it because of you. Don't try and understand it. The bigger question you need to explore is why you would even want her back after cheating? Have some respect for yourself. She had little respec…
/r/Divorce_Men28/10/23 01:25 PM
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Marriage counseling is for when problems first start, not at the tail end. It's a complete waste of time, IMO. It sounds like you are done, so why go through it? Tell her you don't think marriage counseling will work and start planning the next steps.
/r/Divorce_Men23/10/23 01:14 AM
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Not sure what you mean by 'good poition', but in the U.S. you'd be screwed. I can't speak on Canada, which i assume that's where you are? Does she work? Please say she does. As a high earner, don't get married again. Kids are out of the way, and there is no reason to.
/r/Divorce_Men22/10/23 09:47 PM
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For the most part, separate financials, property, etc, don't matter in community propery states. What state are you in? Chances are that if she is indifferent towards you, she is going to be relieved to hear you want to divorce. Don't move out, go for 50% custody, don't do marriage counseling if suggested, wait to hook up with other wonen, and be prepared for an 'amicable' divorce becomes not so amicable. Does she work? How long was marriage?
/r/Divorce_Men22/10/23 03:58 PM
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When people start losing jobs, they will. Foreclosures, bankruptcies, credit cards/auto delinquencie are all going up.
/r/Divorce_Men22/10/23 12:19 PM
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If you can sell now, i would. I'm in Texas and seeing a lot of homes sitting on the market and lowering list prices. This was unheard of a few months ago. 2024 is going to suck IMO, especially the housing market. I'd sell now and pay cash for something smaller. I'd avoid vacation homes and rentals, as i think people are starting to feel the impacts of inflation, high mortgage rates, etc. Ideally, you'd sell now....get an apartment for 6-12 months, then buy when home prices are low in 2024/25. St…
/r/Divorce_Men21/10/23 11:36 PM
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The house is in both your names? You can go there whenever tf you want. Who cares about involving police at this point. If she won't let you in to your own house, call the police or there will be dramatics. Do you think you are going to go there by yourself and not have drama? This is where false accusations happen. Go file on Monday. Separation is a joke. It's so she can f other dudes. Take action on this situation and don't worry about how she will react. This is hindsight, but this is the rea…
/r/Divorce_Men21/10/23 06:19 PM
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Counseling is a waste of time and often does more harm than good. Counseling is for when problems start happening, not when one person is out the door. Move on and stop looking for reasons she is acting a certain way. People diagnose their ex's with narcissism, bpd, mid-life crisis, etc. Some people have to deal with these things, but it's a small minority. Sometimes, people are just self-centered a-holes, have irrational thoughts, etc. You got this, man.
/r/Divorce_Men20/10/23 09:58 PM
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You are! I mean, i filed, but she initiated but would not file. I had to do that also, just like everything at the tail end of the marriage.
/r/Divorce_Men19/10/23 06:26 PM
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Because women initiate divorce 85% of the time. They have mourned the loss of the marriage and are already moving on (usually cheated). The man is just starting that journey. Some men feel a need to compete with her by getting into a relationship quickly. I dealt with this by hooking up with a lot of women. Guess what? It did not make things any better. It took a bit of time for me to get back in the swing of gym, friends, work, golf, eating well, etc. That time away from women helped immensely.…
/r/Divorce_Men19/10/23 05:30 PM
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Better yet, don't get married.
/r/Divorce_Men18/10/23 09:35 PM
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Go fund me? Lord, we all got robbed by our ex wives. Your asking for money on the wrong sub. Post this on the regular divorce sub and watch how attacked you will get.
/r/Divorce_Men18/10/23 12:59 AM
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Mixed signals are only seen by the person wanting them back. Start learning all you can about women and stop 'waiting'. You don't listen to women. You watch their actions. If she wanted to be with you, she would. Women love attention, even if it's from an ex they don't really want. She absolutely knows you'd drop everything for her, which is ironically horribly unattractive to women. Gym, sleep, hobbies, eat good, get your finances up, and women will pop up. Don't talk about your feelings to her…
/r/Divorce_Men17/10/23 07:39 PM
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She threatened divorce after 4 months, and then you had a child with this woman? Bro, get out....now. She is not going to change. She is going to try and squeeze everything from you, so get an attorney. It's either take your lumps now, or later. The lumps later will be twice as large. Do not get this chick pregnant again.
/r/Divorce_Men16/10/23 09:13 PM
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A red flag of mine is avoiding social media hyper users. Attention is currency for most women. Another red flag is thirsty spandex pictures, etc. These are for 'short term' fun only. Social media has ruined relationships. It's just another validation tool for women. But, you will be deemed 'controlling' if you say one word. So be it.....
/r/Divorce_Men16/10/23 05:08 PM
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Realtors usually do a comparative market analysis (CMA). Why are you not going with a full appraisal? Not sure where you live, but I'd get moving on it. Im seeing lots of price drops in Texas. 2024 is going to be a rough year on home prices in most areas. And no way am i paying future realtor fees. Is she nuts? If she doesn't agree, then have the court decide. Time is money in this situation
/r/Divorce_Men15/10/23 04:14 PM
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She's on holiday with another guy. Block her everywhere you can. No contact. This is not some game, but a way for you to move on. Being 'friends' is b.s. IMO. Do you want to hear about guys she's hooking up with? That's what friends talk about. Women offer to be friends to let you down easy.
/r/Divorce_Men15/10/23 03:58 PM
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Co-habitation is hell. Why? Because the woman has already grieved the end of the marriage and initiated separation/divorce. Meanwhile, the man is just starting his grieving journey. The man sometimes has a glimmer of hope where there is none. The man can't sleep, loses weight, can't concentrate at work, etc. The man looks at her and does not recognize how she can 'move on so quickly'. I don't wish this on my biggest enemy. I did whatever i could to get my ex wife out of the house. Finally, when …
/r/Divorce_Men14/10/23 04:22 PM
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Texas courts don't give a f about adultry. it's a no-fault state. Draw up divorce terms, have her sign, and take it to an attorney to draw it up. You have no kids and were married a short time, so it should not be too hard. Be prepared for her to get greedy and try and get things she does not deserve. Don't get married again. Don't co'habitate in Texas due to common law marriage rules. You learmed your lesson young. There is zero benefit to marriage in the u.s for men.
/r/Divorce_Men14/10/23 01:03 PM
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She banged plan A. Plan A did not work out. She is back to plan B, you. You are about to learn a valuable lesson about women and why reconciliation does not work.
/r/Divorce_Men13/10/23 10:18 PM
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F that. You owe her nothing at this point. Start a schedule and rules of the house. You need time away from kids also. The housing market is not great, but its going to get worse in 2024.
/r/Divorce_Men11/10/23 03:47 PM
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Document her being hammered, especially if kids are there. Why does she get no kids' responsibility every weekend??
/r/Divorce_Men11/10/23 03:32 PM
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In house 'separation' is hell, but you have to set rules and boundaries. For example, you can still have a 'kid schedule' even though you are both in the house. Start documenting her behavior for future custody evidence. Stop listening to her drunk ass. Watch women's actions. She is out hooking up with dudes. Stop looking for signs. YOU are letting her 'reel you back in'. If she wanted to be together, she would. You deserve better. Go to a separate room when she comes home hammered. Put a camera…
/r/Divorce_Men11/10/23 01:36 PM
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This is awesome. My ex seemed to be living the good life a year after, but i think reality came crashing down. She looked horrible after that. I think many women regret divorce, but they refuse to admit it. In my experience, most women do not take accountability. I think its like a new job. Women think the new 'job' (her new man) is going to be awesome, but after a year she realizes that new 'job' comes with the same b.s. aa the last one, and in many cases, it's worse.
/r/Divorce_Men10/10/23 03:37 PM
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Help us by using paragraphs Do not move out, or even move out of the bedroom. See #5 She is likely cheating...her 'friend'. Separation is a complete waste of time. It's divorce practice. Get an attorney STOP being a NICE Guy. 'We looked into each others eyes'. Stop this needy behavior. Stop doing things for her. She has zero respect for you and thinks this 'protection order' is her golden ticket.
/r/Divorce_Men10/10/23 02:58 PM
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Set your boundries and stick to them. Be prepared to walk away if they get crossed. Get ready for 'that's controlling' b.s. if you don't speak up now, you will get more and more resentful. Things get masked at the beginning of any new relationship. We all thought 'she was perfect' or 'this one is different'. Lol. Validation is currency to women, especially from other men. Her male 'friends' want to bang her. They are male orbitors just waiting for their chance. Social media has ruined things....…
/r/Divorce_Men08/10/23 02:35 PM
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You won't get 60/40 n Texas unless she is a mass murderer, drug addict, etc. Go for 50/50. By the time your kids are 18, you will have spent 75% of your life time together with them. When they hit teen years, they don't want to be around you as much and can fend for themselves. You can always modify down....it's harder to go up. 'Sewing your wild oats' can be done on your non kid time. When the kids are with you, they are obviously priority. They did not ask for this, and like most men, you prob…
/r/Divorce_Men08/10/23 11:13 AM
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So as of now, you'd have to do a cash out refi. You take over $300k mortgage and pay her half of equity ($125,000)? Making new mortgage balance $425,000? Check your mortgage documents. There will be an assumption section. Some conv loans have in cases of death or divorce. If you did that, how are you paying her 1/2 the equity?
/r/Divorce_Men07/10/23 01:36 PM
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In the amount of time it took you to write this, you could have blocked the account. And be real with yourself. You do care, or you would not be trying to figure this out. You will never know the reason, never. Block, block, block so you can move on.
/r/Divorce_Men29/09/23 03:09 PM
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You are on the right path, bro. I was about the same age. I mean, you really only have until kids hit those teen years, then don't want to be around you. Lol. When kids turn 18, you've spent 75% of your time together with them. I'm not saying don't date, but it sure has changed. With social media, women have non-stop options and guys messing them. It's just tough to find a woman who does not seek male validation, is not a social media hyper user, is in shape, doesn't have 50 kids, etc. I'm not m…
/r/Divorce_Men28/09/23 01:25 PM
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Everyone has their own path. But these 'it gets better' post involve a 'new woman' 99% of the time. I just want men to know that it gets better, even without a woman. Regardless, good luck in your new path bro.
/r/Divorce_Men28/09/23 11:49 AM
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It gets better without a 'new woman' also.
/r/Divorce_Men28/09/23 11:28 AM
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Go alone or don't go. Don't bring drama potential to a party that is not yours. Can't you invite the birthday person and friends to a different party that you host?
/r/Divorce_Men27/09/23 03:43 PM
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Got it bro! I just see so many 'it gets better' updates and 99% involve a 'new woman'. Lol. You got this bro. Divorce is definitely not the end. Have a fantastic day.
/r/Divorce_Men26/09/23 02:46 PM
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Thata is all good, but men can be doing better without an 'awesome new woman'. Women always start off 'awesome', or none of us would have gotten married in the first place. i'm happier now than i've been in a long time, but I don't equate happiness to being in a relationship. If that's your thing, i can respect your view. Good luck bro.
/r/Divorce_Men26/09/23 02:12 PM
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i learned my lesson the first time. No marriage, no cohabitation, and no long-term relationships. I get reminded every day by the stories on this sub. That is a good thing.
/r/Divorce_Men25/09/23 11:57 AM
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Yep, I agree. It's nothing new, though. Hypergamy is undefeated.
/r/Divorce_Men24/09/23 11:28 PM
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Someone read 'unplugged alpha' and/or 'The Rational Male'. 😆
/r/Divorce_Men24/09/23 10:14 PM
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Yep, cheaters will never admit it. Even if you show them proof, you get zero apology ('he's just a friend').. Going forward, stay away from women who dress provocatively, have lots of male friends, social media hyper user, seek male validation (75% of women), stay in contact with ex's......unless it's for short term fun. You are not controlling. it's called boundaries. You got this, bro.
/r/Divorce_Men22/09/23 06:18 PM
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She was secretly doing things like this before divorce. Maybe not dating sites, but def messaging, guys. Women mourn the death of the marriage and then do separation/divorce. Guys START the mourning process at this time. Guys think she 'moved on quickly'. No. Men and women cheat, but women are better at it.
/r/Divorce_Men22/09/23 05:51 PM
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It was confusing until i started learning about women and relationships. Humans are not built for marriage, IMO. Women initiate 70-90% of divorces. 50% divorce rate and a decent chunk married, but not happy, IMO. Social media, realuty tv, feminism, biased courts, 'no fault' divorce, alimony, only fans, etc. have ruined marriage, IMO. Make your own decision, but man.....the days of 50-year marriages are long gone. Finding a woman who does not seek male attention is extremely difficult. Women who …
/r/Divorce_Men22/09/23 03:59 PM
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One is spydialer. Try it on your own cell #
/r/Divorce_Men22/09/23 02:45 PM
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If she's not getting sex/male attention from you, she's getting it from somewhere. Is this the marriage example you want to set for your kids? Sleep in separate rooms and basically be roomates? No. In my experience, when women are done, they are done. You are just delaying the inevitable.
/r/Divorce_Men22/09/23 11:54 AM
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Tons of apps underground where you can get names linked to cell phones. The comments have a few of them. If you have that gut feeling, it's probably true. Most women have something lined up. I was like most men who post 'no infidelity' concerning their wifes. I finally listened and went through our joint cell bill. Hundreds of messages to a certain number. I looked up the number, and after i was prepared, i said the name in front of her. You should have seen her face. Haha. But guess what? I was…
/r/Divorce_Men22/09/23 11:45 AM
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You don't have closure because you are looking for the smallest sign that she still cares about you. Tell her to stop texting your phone and stick to those boundaries. Stop trying to figure out why. You will never know the real reason.
/r/Divorce_Men21/09/23 06:16 PM
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I don't care if my ex regrets it....ever. its over. I would never take her back. I don't spend a single minute thinking about her or the good/bad things she is experiencing because of it. Cheaters only regret things when they get caught. Most don't even take acvountability and blame you for their cheating.
/r/Divorce_Men20/09/23 08:01 PM
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Yes, i see a lot of this as well. I mean, have you seem nurses nowadays with skin-tight scrubs and full makeup? Most have wedding rings on. It's all for male valudation. I see married guys and their wives: Wear caked on make up Wear spandex 3"up their aas and p%%% Post thirsty social media posts Have tons of male friends (he's just a friend....lol) Sorry, but this does not fly for me. Some guy explained it in a way that made sense, replacing a guy with a job. Women can have a job (a guy), but a …
/r/Divorce_Men20/09/23 07:48 PM
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At the end of the day, staying in a miserable situation is going to impact you in some way (resentment/frustration/etc). This will come out on your kids. If you are at this point, i guarantee you she was at this point months or years ago. She will start seeking male attention if she has not already. I tried the marriage thing. it's not for me. IMO, humans are not built for marriage. Women are continually looking for the best provisioning male they can get. Men seek unlimited sex with unlimited w…
/r/Divorce_Men20/09/23 05:51 PM
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In Texas, a judge would have to be involved as they are supposed to do what is best for the child. My daughter wanted to be with me as my ex tried to shove her boyfriend down her throat. My ex agreed to the arrangement. My daughter won't even visit her now. Its your life bro, but what advice would you give your kids if they came to you with the problem you face? Stay married? Not me. No fn way. She decided to ruin this marriage, not you. You are showing your kids to not have boundaries if someon…
/r/Divorce_Men17/09/23 03:58 PM
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It sucks to lose 'half' but it was worth it to get the cheater out of my life. What's the alternative? Stay married and live with someone who hooked up with other dudes while you busted your ass working? No thanks. It will drive you nuts, and that will impact your well-being. I'm in Tx, 2 kids, 12 year marriage, and around your age. My oldest decided to live with me 100% at 12 years old (14 now). The youngest is 50/50. To be honest, once kids hit those teen years, they don't want to be around yo…
/r/Divorce_Men17/09/23 11:15 AM
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It's the divorce diet. Trouble sleeping, loss of appetite, etc. I did not have much to lose, but lost weight. It finally got better once i got her out of the house.
/r/Divorce_Men16/09/23 02:05 PM
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You've already made up your mind, stay put. But with technology, make an effort with your kids. Video calls, text, birthday cards, etc. Can't you visit on weekends? You are the dad, so just don't be the 'my kids don't talk to me' dad if you are not making the effort.
/r/Divorce_Men16/09/23 02:01 PM
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I have always been a beer drinker, but I acted like a 21 year old after divorce. It definitely escalated. I was going out, hooking up with women, etc. (kids were at their moms). Guess what? It did not make me feel any better. I knew my kids would pick up on my behavior. I stopped drinking 3 years ago, and it was not easy for me. I did not want to continue a family cycle. My daughter decided to live with me 100% 2 years ago. I drank enough in my younger years to last me a lifetime. I'm more focus…
/r/Divorce_Men14/09/23 02:19 PM
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It's not an anniversary any longer, so don't give it meaning. Start something new to replace it.
/r/Divorce_Men14/09/23 12:11 PM
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🤣🤣😎😎
/r/Divorce_Men12/09/23 02:53 PM
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Not during the school year, but in the summer. Care.com and sittercity.com are pretty solid (require background checks, etc). Also, check with your job. Mine has benefits for reduced cost childcare. Who cares what your ex says. You have to work. She would do the same.
/r/Divorce_Men12/09/23 02:49 PM
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F no. That's pure delusion on her part. My ex (who also got busted cheating) wife wanted to stay married 10 more years until our kids turned 18. Hell no. You don't have to be a part of her circus. Keep your boundaries. You got this. .
/r/Divorce_Men11/09/23 04:30 PM
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No, that feeling you have is from a scarcity mindset, and you are likely starting the mourning period. She likely went through this period long ago. Give it time, and you will realize you are better off without her.
/r/Divorce_Men11/09/23 12:48 PM
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No, bro. Do you really want to see and hear about that dude she has been banging? No. Do you want to see and hear about all the things she is doing that she would not do with you? No. Being 'friends' is b.s in most cases. One person usually wants to be friends because they still have feelings. The other person (her) offers friendship because she is letting you down easy. The only karma you can get is years later when she realizes she f$$$ed up and asks to get together, and you say 'no fn thanks'…
/r/Divorce_Men10/09/23 11:02 AM
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I had a similar situation. It seems to be a common narrative. I have no idea how people don't have the balls to say something before cheating. Crazy thing is....these women still 'win' in divorce. There is no consequence for cheating. I'm not marrying again, not with divorce laws, courts, social media, feminism, only fans, etc. 70-90% of women initiate separation / divorce. Many have their back up guy picked out and/or are already cheating. Just remember, this says everything about her and nothi…
/r/Divorce_Men09/09/23 11:40 AM
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'The person who cares less has the power'. I found this true, especially in dating. Its not about being an a-hole but being unattached to any outcome, positive or negative.
/r/Divorce_Men07/09/23 02:30 PM
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I agree with your comment. Unfortunately, it seems to be women who give up as they initiate/file 70-90% of the time. This does not include guys like me who filed for the divorce she wanted. Court sytems, feminism, social media, 'independent' women (etc,) have ruined marriage for me. Good luck bro!
/r/Divorce_Men05/09/23 12:13 PM
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I mean, all new relationships start off fun and exciting. If that was not the case, none of us would have got married in the first place. You do fun things together, have sex often, etc. Finding a woman '100 times better' seems easy in the beginning as most of us had trash endings to our marriage. My measuring stick of my life sure tf is not a woman, and definitely won't be a second marriage. Yes, get back on the horse, but that does not mean you need some woman to make your life all it can be. …
/r/Divorce_Men05/09/23 01:51 AM
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This is spot on. I'll never forget my ex wife saying 'don't worry i don't think you will physically hurt me' and 'i feel like a battered woman' after she wanted separation. I was like wtf?? Meanwhile, she's banging some dude at work. She was in school for one thing or another our entire marriage. She entered the workforce, then poof. It all went downhill. She planned the whole thing out. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Never again.
/r/Divorce_Men04/09/23 08:06 PM
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It's tough, bro, but stop making emotional decisions. Get ahold of yourself and fight for what is yours. Like most men, you probably worked your ass off to give her and kids everything. Get an attorney and get part of the equity and fight for the kids (if they are yours). Don't give up. Now is not the time to quit. My dad fought for me when i was young, and i'm glad he did.
/r/Divorce_Men04/09/23 06:08 PM
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Married or not, sex will dwindle over a long period of time 99% of the time. Yes, sex is better after divorce but thats because i'm not doing long term relationships or marriage again. It works for my situation and is not for everyone.
/r/Divorce_Men04/09/23 05:23 PM
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Having to start over again financially in my 40's. Seeing my kids less. Realizing marriage is a scam (that's probably a positive). Having someone you trust end up being a liar/cheater. But overall, i'm glad it happened. It has taught me a lot of things about people. I will not get the government involved in my love life again.
/r/Divorce_Men04/09/23 05:17 PM
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Many women millionaire's have 'divorce' as their occupation. But, it's not going to change unless men stop involving the government in their love life and/or courts stop incentivizing women to divorce.
/r/Divorce_Men03/09/23 04:45 PM
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My ex did things like this. Never did anything with our kids while married. This all changed when her boyfriend had kids. Total b.s. Just continue to be there for the kids. They have figured out who she is. My daughter lives with me 100% after my ex pulled this b.s. She's been with me 3 years....won't even visit her mom.
/r/Divorce_Men03/09/23 01:08 PM
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She probably is cheating. Most women have a man lined up before they announce separation/divorce. You called her out on it, and she pulled the plug. Don't count on her regretting her decision. Even if they do, they won't admit it. When a woman 'falls out of love,' it's not coming back. Do not waste your time. She mourned the death of the marriage over the course of months, or even years. Move forward with divorce. Don't try to beg, plead, implor, manipulate, or show her your 'changes' to her. It…
/r/Divorce_Men02/09/23 07:38 PM
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Wow...she is a p.o.s.
/r/Divorce_Men02/09/23 02:58 PM
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It depends on state/county, but ultimately, i had to refinance her off the mortgage, which costs $$. I also refinanced into a higher rate. I did not have a choice. But, what a damn money grab. I could clearly afford it by myself. I'm keeping this house. No 2nd marriage and no co-habitation (due to texas common law) for me.
/r/Divorce_Men02/09/23 02:57 PM
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Go watch 'the marriage wheel' by coach greg adams on youtube and see how closely this fits your situation. And f being friends. You can co-parent without trying to be fake friends. My worst enemy has not done the things my ex wife did behind my back.
/r/Divorce_Men02/09/23 02:52 PM
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Write it out, then have a burn ceremony. 🔥 It's a way of expressing, then letting it fn go.
/r/Divorce_Men01/09/23 02:45 PM
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Same. No marriage. No cohabitation (b/c of common law in Texas). Dating is fun and exciting. I'm 100% up front with those i date. Unfortunately, people will call me a woman hater for my stance, so get used to that. I say i'm using logic, reasoning, and statistics to make an informed decision. Good luck bro!
/r/Divorce_Men31/08/23 03:29 PM
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Until the court system changes, don't get married. Women are incentivized to divorce. It's fn nuts. Women file 70-90% of the time. And im not talking about the .05% of women who divorce because of legitimate abuse, drugs, etc. It's like going to Vegas every day and expecting to win. The house ALWAYS wins at the end of the day. How about she doesn't get s$$ in divorce if she cheats? How about a marriage contract that is only 7 years long? Divorce is a huge business, but i'm not playing the s%$$ o…
/r/Divorce_Men30/08/23 04:55 PM
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This story gets re - written time after time.. she likely had this planned at the tail end of the marriage. If you try and say anything, you will be deemed 'controlling'. This relationship will likely fail quickly. My ex wife did the same. My daughter decided to live with me after my ex tried to force the boyfriend into her life (she was 8, though). My daughter is still with me 100% years later. My ex and boyfriend broke up, and my daughter still won't even visit her. Not sure i have great advic…
/r/Divorce_Men30/08/23 11:26 AM
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Um, no. Separation was so she could bang other dudes.
/r/Divorce_Men28/08/23 04:43 PM
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I had the same hapoen. Bought a 5 bed/6bath and that summer, she wanted 'separation'. I found hundreds of texts to another number on our cell bill and put 2 and 2 together. I had to refinance at a higher rate to get her off and kept the house. Cut your losses and get rid of that house unless you can comfortably afford it. Good luck bro.
/r/Divorce_Men28/08/23 12:05 PM
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This is nothing new. Social media, feminism, only fans, movies, weak men 'liking thirsty photos, of women, and women in the workforce have all contributed. Like i say, don't hate women. Just understand them. It's like getting pissed at Las Vegas because you lost all your money. You know the risks. You know the odds, but you play anyway. And the 'awesome' new woman guys find is no different. She may not act on her biological tendencies, but the hard wiring is the same. Attention is currency to mo…
/r/Divorce_Men27/08/23 03:28 PM
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Me. What benefit does getting married have? Tax savings are minimal. Prenups are thrown out or modified more than you think. 'I signed it under duress' is common. I can't think of a single benefit of marriage. You can still have a relationship......
/r/Divorce_Men22/08/23 03:02 PM
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Definitely won't be a wife or co-habitation. Not with this court system, social media, women seeking male attention, hypergamy, feminism, etc. Not all women act on it, but it's getting harder and harder to find. Women initiate divorce 70-90% of the time. Everyone has different circumstances, and you have to make the decision that is right for you. A 2nd marriage is not for me. I'm not jumping out of a plane when my parachute has a +63% of failing. Wishing you luck.
/r/Divorce_Men21/08/23 02:52 PM
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I've never been more peaceful in my life than I am now.
/r/Divorce_Men21/08/23 02:33 PM
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My ex started whistling out loud at the tail end. Never did the entire 17 years until the tail end. She knew it bothered me. Fn teenage antics.
/r/Divorce_Men16/08/23 08:41 PM
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Bro, doing this for the kids will do more damage than divorce. Kids are smart. They see you on the couch, etc. Is that the picture of marriage you want to give them? Hey kids....if your wife does not love you, just stay together no matter what. F no. Sorry to break this to you but she is likely planning for divorce and putting herself 'out there' to other men. It's no way to live. Yes, the 10 year mark has implications in some states. Im in texas, and over 10 years can mean alimony (called spous…
/r/Divorce_Men14/08/23 09:41 PM
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It's a survival mechanism linked to biology. Don't hate women, but understand their nature. Men value youth, beauty, inexperience (not just sex), and women who don't seek male attention. Women seek provisioning, support, and a man with a future. Men look to a woman's past, and a woman looks at the man's future. Are there exceptions? Yes. But they are getting harder and harder to find due to feminism, only fans, social media, etc. Attention is currency for MOST women.
/r/Divorce_Men13/08/23 02:13 PM
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Now continue to make smart business decisions by not getting married again. There is a lot of risk with little reward. You don't need a piece of paper to define a committed relationship if that's what you choose. Not with a court system that incentivized women to divorce. Even prenups are thrown out or modified. Look at kevin costner's 'iron clad' prenup. Making money is great and all, but the main benefit is so you don't have to put up with b.s. from women. Why? Because you have more options as…
/r/Divorce_Men12/08/23 10:46 PM
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If she gets a rabbit the daughter will want to bring it to your place. Are you okay with that? Give your input and be done. I don't see the big deal, but i might be missing something.
/r/Divorce_Men10/08/23 06:21 PM
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You underestimate the thirst of an ex wife and divorce attorney. All it takes is a forensic accountant if your ex has an inkling of missing money. If a judge finds out, he will go nuclear. Hoping you make it through, but i sure af would not be posting about it or telling anyone.
/r/Divorce_Men10/08/23 12:33 PM
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My ex did something similar, but not that extreme. She forced the boyfriend and his kids down my daughters throat (ex was cheating). It really impacted my oldest daughter mentally. She decided to live with me a few years back 100%. My ex and boyfriend broke up last year. My daughter won't even visit her now. I encourage her to, but she will not go to her mom's house because of all this. Part of me wants my daughter to have that relationship even if my ex is a p.o.s. The other part chuckles becau…
/r/Divorce_Men10/08/23 12:13 PM
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How about 'Mike' bring up the word 'pre nup' to her? They are not foolproof and can get thrown out of court, modified, etc. But, that term usually scares off leaches. If he's dead set on marrying her, a pre nup is not going to hurt.
/r/Divorce_Men09/08/23 01:18 AM
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Man, it sucks but this is not all of a sudden on her end. In my experience, women plan their exit over months, even years, before you find out. Her closest friends knew about it. She tells other men about her 'troubled marriage' to signal that she's essentially single. She gets an inflated ego from men hitting on her. Get prepared for divorce and forget about any 'save the marriage' thoughts that many have. Don't be shocked when a new male 'friend' enters the picture. It's over. Good luck, bro.
/r/Divorce_Men08/08/23 12:37 AM
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Well, that's 70-90% of all divorces, so what choice do you have? Just don't believe the reasons she filed because he is the bad guy 99% of the time.
/r/Divorce_Men05/08/23 12:41 PM
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The most overused word around. Don't pay attention to it. Most don't know what it really is. It's really more about self hate than people can fathom. People actually deal with narcissists, but unfortunately, they are not believed because it's so overused. I got called a narcassost for posting a gym picture. Haha. Gtfoh.
/r/Divorce_Men05/08/23 12:36 PM
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A better question is why she is not blocked on all social media apps?
/r/Divorce_Men02/08/23 12:46 PM
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I'm in Texas and had a similar situation. Go file. She cheated, but I did ALL the divorce legwork, but it sums up our marriage. Get an attorney today. Do not leave the house. Cheating won't matter in Texas, unfortunately. I got 50/50 custody of 2 kids, and my oldest decided to live with me 100% a few years ago (she did not contest it). My ex-wife wanted to stay married 12 more years until our kids turned 18 while she's out F%%%ing other dudes. Haha. No FN thanks. Good luck.
/r/Divorce_Men01/08/23 12:13 PM
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No. There is no benefit, especially with a 30-40% success rate.
/r/Divorce_Men30/07/23 11:41 PM
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You got this, bro. Don't be someone's plan B.
/r/Divorce_Men29/07/23 03:57 PM
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She's been with him 2 months, that you know of. It's probably longer. In my experience, women mourn the death of the marriage long before they initiate separation/divorce. They monkey branch to a new man before the anmounce. The guy is baffled by the announcement and can't comprehend how they can do this so easily. Women base things on how they feel in the moment. This is why what you did yesterday or 4 years ago does not matter. Current feelings dictate the past relationship. When feedings of '…
/r/Divorce_Men29/07/23 03:11 PM
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Advice is to get the divorce ball rolling and face reality. Your situation happens to thousands. You can't control this situation. Women initiate 70-90% of divorces. Men and women communicate differently and, unfortunately some women don't tell you to your face that they are not happy. They show overt 'signs' and men are supposed to mind read. By the time you find out, she mourned the death of the marriage. She is done. In most cases, they have a new man in mind or are cheating. You, on the othe…
/r/Divorce_Men28/07/23 01:22 PM
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Its good for you, IMO. If her financial affidavit was legit and backed up by proper evidence, any attorney could defend it (well, most anyway). She wants a new attorney to find some 'creative' way to explain the discrepancies. Assuming you have some awesome proof, bro. Good luck!!
/r/Divorce_Men27/07/23 09:25 PM
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Its not an opinion, but a fact. She can't kick you out. If she tries, call the cops. I'd go ahead and print out proof you are on the deed, just so you have it. After divorce, i had to do a refi to get her off the mortgage, and she had to sign paperwork that she agreed to be taken off deed. It sucks because my refi rate was higher than the orig rate. Its a money grab, IMO, especially if you can easily qualify for the mortgage on your own. Im in Texas.
/r/Divorce_Men27/07/23 03:15 PM
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100% agree
/r/Divorce_Men26/07/23 07:36 PM
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It's always been in the water IMO via hypergamy. Obviously, not all women act on it. But feminism, only fans, 'boss' girls' (aka I don't need a man), social media, her single 'friends', women making more $$, and FOMO (among many others) don't help matters. I think some men (including myself at the tail end) also stop improving themselves as well. I stopped golf, hanging with friends, happy hours, etc. I definitely became comfortable. My ex asked me to marry her after 5 years of dating (married 1…
/r/Divorce_Men26/07/23 06:35 PM
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"Please only send communication concerning the kids, i will not respond to anything else" If you don't have kids together, full block. You are plan D. Plan A, B, C are not working out. Don't be anyones plan D.
/r/Divorce_Men22/07/23 03:32 PM
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You watch women's actions, don't listen to their words. If she wanted to be with you, she would. If it's not a 'hell yes' it's a no. She emotionally cheated, and i guarantee she physically cheated. She is giving you this therapy b.s. to make herself not feel guilty for cheating. She is not putting things in limbo, you are. Stop being Mr. Nice guy with this woman and move on. She is keeping you as option D in case options A, B, C don't work out. Option #3.. Good luck, man.
/r/Divorce_Men21/07/23 11:12 PM
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I'm 3 years post divorce. I only talk to her about the kids, that's it. It's not about hate, but i don't spend any time with people who burn me. Period. Like another guy said, the goal is indifference. That is the opposite of love. Hate means you still care in some capacity. It will take time bro. Get on the gym, eat well, get proper sleep, and be there for those kids. You have to forge your own path.
/r/Divorce_Men19/07/23 08:48 PM
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You got this man. I have daughters, and i can def 'see' how they coomunicate differently than i do (which is honest, up front, and to the point) as they enter teen years. Good luck bro.
/r/Divorce_Men19/07/23 07:36 PM
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Learn all you can about how men and women communicate differently. It's not a coincidence that women initiate 80-90% of divorces, and it's usually a total shock to the guy.
/r/Divorce_Men19/07/23 06:26 PM
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Yeah, i'm sure she's been going to bed at 8 pm after going to church and knitting blankets for the last year. Get an STD test. No infidelity in the marriage? Maybe not on your part. Move on bro.
/r/Divorce_Men19/07/23 04:51 PM
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Agree 100%. Not blaming myself, but def think i could have done things better before cheating was in the picture. I will never forgive cheating. I'm not angry, just don't care any longer. The next dude can deal with that b.s.
/r/Divorce_Men19/07/23 03:33 PM
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99% of the time, it's not one or the others' fault, both parties played a part. My ex cheated. I did not make her cheat (she takes zero accountability), but there were things i could have done better in the marriage. At the end of the day, it does not matter. Some people take zero blame as it makes them feel better. But guess what? Those same people will likely go through similar issues in the next relationship. Divorce rates go up, not down, for a reason. If i meet a woman who blames 100% on th…
/r/Divorce_Men19/07/23 03:23 PM
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I'm just not getting married. I don't need the government involved in my love life.
/r/Divorce_Men19/07/23 02:53 AM
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Im divorced with kids. One seems more impacted than the other, but you never know. My parents' divorce did not impact me greatly, it was their sh%%% choice in partners after that did. Bad step moms/step dads/step diblings/half siblings. One reason im not getting married or co-habitating or dating single moms. .
/r/Divorce_Men18/07/23 05:52 PM
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Im in Texas. I did a quick Word doc with all the terms. I found one lawyer. Techically, he was my attorney but represented us both. I gave him the signed word doc. He drafted up the divorce decree. She signed. I had to go to court to get decree affirmed in front of the judge. Crazy how i did all the work for a divorce she wanted (did not initially know about the cheating), but it just sums up our marriage at the tail end. Looking back, im glad my ex was cheating. I had to do all the leg work, bu…
/r/Divorce_Men18/07/23 12:43 PM
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Pretty trashy of her to do this during in-house separation. We all know damn well she is not going out as friends. Do what you can to get her out of the house asap. In-house separation is torture. Start moving forward with your new chapter and forget any hope of reconciliation. Watch her actions, not her words. Good luck man.
/r/Divorce_Men18/07/23 01:31 AM
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Single life is awesome! Just golfed 18 holes and now watching golf. Guess what? No one was here to complain when i got home. Lets gooo!
/r/Divorce_Men16/07/23 09:10 PM
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Bro, living with someone while separated is hell, but stop giving her free validation. Treat her like a roommate. You don't have to be a di%$ but also don't make commemts that you want to sleep with her (joking or not). She is banging another dude and probably was while married. Set some boundaries so you can move on. Co-habitating sucks in this situation, but focus on you and your new chapter. It's going to be awesome.
/r/Divorce_Men16/07/23 02:13 PM
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I'm doing short term dating and it works for me. At this point in my life, i'm not getting married again. Im not co-habitating because of Texas common law marriage rules. The cost/benefit ratios are different for all of us.
/r/Divorce_Men16/07/23 01:25 AM
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You met a woman this week and talk 2-4 hours each day? Bro...pump the brakes a little. Every woman we meet will start out 10x better than our ex. Sounds like you are planning for marriage after a week. I really like the positive nature of your post, but man, just take some time and vet, vet, vet. Focus on your kids.
/r/Divorce_Men16/07/23 01:13 AM
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Read it already
/r/Divorce_Men15/07/23 09:29 PM
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I completely identify with this. The worst thing you can do to a man is disrespect him. My ex literally went to school for one thing or another during our entire marriage. Meanwhile, i'm woking 12-15 hour days, cooking, handling kids, etc. I don't ever remember a 'Thank You', but she sure would voice any dissatisfaction (eg this steak has too much seasoning). With most women, you are only as good as what you did yesterday. Their minds work on emotions/feelings for the most part. After my own ref…
/r/Divorce_Men15/07/23 04:44 PM
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Sweet justice!
/r/Divorce_Men15/07/23 12:48 PM
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"He's just a friend" / this is the dude i'm fu$%$ing and you are in my way
/r/Divorce_Men14/07/23 08:03 PM
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Is she keeping it for when she gets a new 'man'? I don't know the IVF process.
/r/Divorce_Men13/07/23 08:51 PM
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Women change their minds all the time, and their 'friends', new man, and family help them. Get an attorney. Why would you pay child support when splitting custody? Mine started off amicable until it came out she had been cheating for 6 months. There is always a new man waiting in the wings. At least get a free consultation from an attorney.
/r/Divorce_Men13/07/23 06:52 PM
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You may want to try the regular divorce sub, which is more G rated. Many of us are banned from there. Or you could start a new sub? Maybe call it Kind_divorce or something. There are probably stories like yours....maybe?
/r/Divorce_Men12/07/23 05:28 PM
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You can do this! It sucks. It hurts. But you have to take the reins in your life. Don't deal with cheaters. It will happen to you again. I know it seems impossible, but in a few years you will be thankful.
/r/Divorce_Men12/07/23 03:01 PM
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Today is the day you stop this b.s. She is banging another dude, and you are sitting by the phone like a puppy dog. Stop playing the 'pick me' game. You are plan D, in case plan A, B, and C don't work out. You are NOT someone's second choice. If it's not a hell yes, it's a no. Stop being her emotional tampon and take charge of your life. Read No More Mr Nice Guy and stand up for yourself. Block her. If you have kids, only talk about kids. Ignore all the other drama. There are millions of women i…
/r/Divorce_Men12/07/23 02:55 PM
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You got this bro. It says nothing about you and everything about her. Stay FN busy. Get back to your pre marriage self. Hobbies, reach out to friends, gym. eat well, get sleep. If you drink, stop (my drinking increased). Take care of those kids. Figure out your part in the marriage demise and work on those things. Make changes, but do it for you, not her. It can take years to get through this journey. Everyone is different. Do not jump into a new relationship to fill the void. I don't agree with…
/r/Divorce_Men12/07/23 01:09 PM
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Unfortunately, cheaters will never tell you the full truth or apologize, even with full evidence. Assume she cheated physically. This story is like thousands of others. My advice is to stop trying to 'save the marriage'. When a woman is done, she is done. It is a waste of time. You want someone who cheated and clearly did not honor their vows?. What does that show your kids? Yes, it suck. Yes, it hurts. But you've got to master the art of not giving a f%$$. Part of being a disciplined man is doi…
/r/Divorce_Men12/07/23 12:12 PM
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Thank you for the comment. Honestly, i would not have found out had i not looked at the cell phone bill. Women typically don't leave without a place to land. Wishing you the best in your journey, bro. You can do this. Stay strong.
/r/Divorce_Men11/07/23 06:44 PM
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Hopeless is a good one as well. Mine told me she 'would take a bullet for me' but it turns out she was cheating. Men and women communicate differently. Women think they give signs they are not happy to the guy. The guy thinks nothing is wrong as she does not directly say, "I am not happy." (Until she is already done 'trying') Im not saying one communication style is better, but they are different.
/r/Divorce_Men11/07/23 03:30 PM
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Don't hold your breath. Ex's say all kinds of things to let men down 'easy' "I Love you, but ___________" (the real reason is after the 'but')(i found a new man) We should be friends (i want a new man) You're a great father (i want a new man) I just need to find my happiness (really means....find di%$) I lost myself (i want a new man) Go watch 'The Marriage Wheel' by Coach Greg Adams on youtube. He talks about the 'bait and switch' personality that SOME women do. I have to say some because someo…
/r/Divorce_Men11/07/23 02:43 PM
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Yes. Are you cynical or just see reality? What is the point of entering into a contract where the chips are stacked against you in family court? I will not get married or co-habitate. Not in this 'modern' time. If people get married, i can respect that, but not agree. I get called all kinds of things for my stance, but i call it a smart financial move. Its like going to vegas and expecting to come back a millionaire. Yes, it can happen, but it's rare.
/r/Divorce_Men11/07/23 12:48 PM
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You are putting yourself in a holding pattern. Hope is a killer in this situation, man. You are plan D in case plan A, B, C doesn't work out. There is probably another man involved. You are asking her if she wants divorce? Watch her actions. It's clear. Go file and take your power and self-respect back.
/r/Divorce_Men07/07/23 10:42 AM
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Mine said she 'felt like a battered woman'. I (and anyone that knows me) was like.....wtf? Meanwhile, she is cheating. They have to make sure you are the bad guy in the story. This is why i have a hard time believing women when they trash their ex. I get it, some guys are like that. You never hear the woman say 'it was partially or fully my fault'. Zero accountability.
/r/Divorce_Men07/07/23 10:34 AM
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100% on board with this. Im in Texas, so no co-habitation due to common law and zero marriage for me. It's like going to vegas and getting pissed you lost. Don't blame Vegas.
/r/Divorce_Men06/07/23 01:33 PM
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Good luck on this sub. Lol. Everyone will be hateful to you based on their views and experience. You are the type to use hateful, misogynistic, and 'woman hater' when you don't agree to invalidate posts. We are not going to agree, and i'm fine with that. You read one post and make judgments. I can hear your view and probable agree with at least 5% of it. You literally can't have an opinion any longer because someone gets butt hurt. That is why i have to put 'in general' or 'some women' or 'most …
/r/Divorce_Men02/07/23 03:15 PM
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Lol.. okay, bro. Stick to the regular divorce sub if you think the post is hateful.
/r/Divorce_Men02/07/23 11:49 AM
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Ohhhh....got it bro. Thank you. I thought you had a good book for me to read. Lol. Have a great weekend man!
/r/Divorce_Men02/07/23 03:12 AM
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What book?
/r/Divorce_Men02/07/23 12:54 AM
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My ex is a nurse, so that theory is on par. Lol. I did read that somewhere also. We got this bro, have a great 4th. Lets go!
/r/Divorce_Men01/07/23 11:50 PM
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So you did this to your ex wife or she did this to you? Which is it? This is a mens divorce group, not a gender equality sub. Our examples and experience involve women in most cases. I give advice using my opinion and experience, not what you went through. Post your own advice if you want.
/r/Divorce_Men01/07/23 11:35 PM
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If your son/daughter told you all this about their marriage, what would you tell them? I'd be 100% done after her sexting. And yes, she probably did cheat. They always say no, they didn't. They have nothing to lose. Start documenting all her behaviors in preparation for custody and proceed.
/r/Divorce_Men01/07/23 11:03 PM
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Changed her character? Or were they like that deep down from the beginning but did not show it? In general, men are logical thinkers, and women act on emotion. Men take a single task and work on it. Women compartmentalize things and can work on many things a little at a time. (im talking generalizations here). When a woman is not 'happy', she searches and searches for the reason and guess what, the conclusion is it must be her husband (of course!). Women communicate way more than men about thing…
/r/Divorce_Men01/07/23 10:18 PM
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Agree 100% "I've been to 50 countries and counting!" Lol. Most men want to have women who they can show things to, not a woman who has done everything.
/r/Divorce_Men30/06/23 02:15 PM
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Great additions!
/r/Divorce_Men30/06/23 12:32 PM
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All our ex-wives were incredible at the beginning. Red flags 1. Social media is her life 2. High body count 3. Dresses provocatively 4. Lots of guy friends 5. Friends with ex boyfriends 6. She goes on 'girls trips' or 'girls night out' 7. She has tons of single girlfriends Things that increase divorce chance 1. She earns more than you 2. She is college educated 3. Her parents are divorced 4. You putting her on a pedestal 5. You not being her best option/not living up to your potential Keep in mi…
/r/Divorce_Men30/06/23 12:17 PM
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Do not move out. She wants divorce, then have her go. Stop 'fighting' for the marriage. It's over. When women are done, they are done. She mourned the death of the marriage long ago. Ask to look through her phone just to see her reaction. She won't let you. Women have a place to land when they bring up divorce. Good luck man, but having hope is a waste of time.
/r/Divorce_Men30/06/23 12:05 PM
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No idea. Marriage is a contract that is not enforced. Combine the divorce rate with 'unhappy' marriages, then the rate skyrockets. Humans were not built for marriage IMO. Maybe marriages are 5 years long, and then you move on to the next. Im 47, and am not losing 'half' again. I won't even live with a woman as texas is common law and you can be deemed 'married' just by co-habitating. Social media, only fans, feminism, dudes inflating thirsty womens ego have ruined a good chunk. Even women who ar…
/r/Divorce_Men30/06/23 12:00 PM
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Finding a beatiful women that do not seek validation from men, do not use social media, and will decline men's advances is rare. Even 5's can go out and get attention to some level. Only fans, social media, feminism, and disney fairytales have ruined a lot. It's not just women, it's also weak men signing up for only fans, feet pictures, messaging 'good morning beautiful' to women they have zero chance with, etc.. These things give women fake confidence, and they think they are 10's. Stay strong,…
/r/Divorce_Men29/06/23 06:53 PM
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With 80% to 90% divorces initiated by women, a HUGE chunk are cheating or have plans to. Some men find out, others don't. Just trying to say you have a lot of support on this sub. This is how gym beasts are born. Stay fn busy. Look through the windshield, not the rear view. Her cheating has nothing to do with you. It takes a lot of time, but you will get through this.
/r/Divorce_Men29/06/23 05:03 PM
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Nope, you are divorced now. It will be awkward AF and kids will notice. Do your own thing.
/r/Divorce_Men28/06/23 03:50 PM
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I am the same. I'm 47 and as of now, i'm no marriage, no co-habitation (im in Tx where there is common law), and no long-term relationships. People equate this to hating women. It's quite the opposite. I feel i understand women better. I have two girls, and bringing in a woman is tough. I dated a doctor who made $350k (and she was thrifty) ,but she got way too involved trying to reprimand my kids. I told her i did not want more kids. She was initially fine with this but kept dropping hints about…
/r/Divorce_Men27/06/23 10:29 PM
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Sorry you are going through this. There is no way around it.....divorce sucks at first. It gets better with time, but the length can differ for everyone. I kept my mind busy. I got back to my pre marriage self by getting back to the gym, golf, old friends, etc. I set new career goals and went back and got my masters degree. I refinaced the house into my name and decorated it how i wanted. Im 3 years post divorce and love it. My oldest decided to live with me 100%, and the other is still 50% visi…
/r/Divorce_Men27/06/23 02:20 AM
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If she agrees, then get 100% custody through the court. Then get her to pay child support. Its only showing the kids she does not care about them. Guys fight like hell for 50%. Take her up on the offer.
/r/Divorce_Men21/06/23 04:10 PM
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Her body count is what she told you times 20.
/r/Divorce_Men18/06/23 12:32 AM
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You know, i got advice one time, and it seemed to help. Sit down and write your eulogy on paper. When you are finished, read it out loud to yourself. Now, reflect on it.....if there are things you want to change on the eulogy, set some goals for those things and start them today. On a side note, exercise is huge for me. There are many studies about the benefits. I did start volunteering as well, and it was really rewarding. Lastly, i think it's mostly about your kids. The best reward as a dad is…
/r/Divorce_Men18/06/23 12:16 AM
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Thanks bro! Wishing you the best.
/r/Divorce_Men17/06/23 11:05 AM
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Sorry you are going through this. It sucks, no doubt. Unfortunately, women initiate 80%-90% of divorces. They mourn the death of the marriage months or even years before you find out. They are done with the marriage. Then, the guy goes in panic mode by begging, pleading, suggesting marriage counseling, making 'changes', and being a doormat. Get all that b.s out of your system and stop doing these things today. Try and get proper sleep, eat right, get in the gym, lau off alcohol, meet with old fr…
/r/Divorce_Men17/06/23 12:57 AM
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This is how gym beasts are born. Let's go!! Seriously, this happens to men more than they know. Men and women cheat, but women are better at it. Get an std test....then the gym. 😎
/r/Divorce_Men15/06/23 07:25 PM
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Oh yeah, well i've talked to 900 women and matched with 90. 🤣 You're going to find that many women are on apps for attention, validation, free meals, etc. You are giving it to them. Most women on apps are overweight, thirsty, have 20 kids, etc. When i was on dating apps, i'd swipe right on, maybe 1% of the women, and im in a big city. You do you, though. P.s. Most women don't care about a masters degree (yes, i have one) they care about what you do and the $$ you bring in.
/r/Divorce_Men15/06/23 01:44 PM
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Maybe just casually date, but don't focus on women. But it sounds like you still have healing work to do. If i could turn back time, i would really look into starting a business and build that business into an empire. Really explore if a 2nd marriage is worth it to you. Everyone has their own path, but marriage seems to be tougher as we move through time, especially when you try and blend families. Women your age are at their peak physically and can be on a millionaire's yacht tomorrow because m…
/r/Divorce_Men07/06/23 12:24 PM
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If part of you loves her and still wants to be with her, it's a hard no. It will be torture. Are you ready to see and hear about dudes that she goes out with? What will girls that you date say about an ex-wife 'best friend'? Meh, i think people say they will stay friends just to say it. I have kids, but it's strictly about kids. I just don't have an interest in her life. I have better things to use my time on.
/r/Divorce_Men06/06/23 03:19 PM
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3 posts in 24 hours. Someone must have a term paper due or your writing a book. Lol
/r/Divorce_Men02/06/23 03:29 PM
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We are brainwashed from a young age on the 'american dream'. Life does not work like that, unfortunately. When your life breaks apart via divorce, you feel 'alone', especially seeing social media posts from others. Let me say this, social media is a damn lie. You see 25% of someone's life, and it's all 'happy' moments. Marriage is extremely tough with ups and downs, but unfortunately, women are not willing to stick it out compared to men. Im not trying to cram red pill stuff down your throat, bu…
/r/Divorce_Men02/06/23 02:57 PM
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Yes, don't fight for the marriage. When a woman is done, she is done. They've thought about it for months or even years. They have mourned the death of the marriage, and you are just starting. Don't be shocked if there is a dude involved in some way. Women seldom want divorce without a place to land. 'Not my wife' is exactly what i thought. Get back to pre marriage you. Hobbies, friends, gym, sleep, proper nutrition. Figure out your part of the marriage breakdown and work on those things. Take i…
/r/Divorce_Men01/06/23 11:54 PM
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Because she 'survived' and made it through such a terrible, terrible marriage. In my experience, my ex wife took zero accountability, even for cheating. Someone has to be the villain as to why she became 'unhappy'. That is you, my friend. Good luck, bro.
/r/Divorce_Men31/05/23 12:33 PM
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We are here to support you, bro. I became a nice guy during marriage, but deep down, i was pissed because i'm doing things i don't really want to do. Read 'No More Mr Nice Guy' by dr glover. In the meantime:....... "Hey, ex-wife, it's great you want to visit with the kids, but it can no longer be done under my roof. My expectation is you will watch them at your place based on xyz schedule going forward. You are no longer welcome to stay on my couch. We are divorced, and we have our own lives now…
/r/Divorce_Men28/05/23 09:58 PM
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She sleeps on your couch? Bro. Why? I get you have kids together, but there has to be a better way. No fn way would my ex is staying at my house, especially when being disrespectful. Set some better boundries and stick to them. Hoping i'm missing sonething here.....
/r/Divorce_Men28/05/23 07:20 PM
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Yeah, going on dating sites just to talk to women is interesting. It's odd that a therpist would suggest that. If you were dating and a woman matched with you that you liked, but she said she was there just to talk......how would you react? It's kind of a fraud and what a lot of women do (just trying to get validation with zero intention of dating). Go out by yourself and strike up conversations with people in general. Bumble has a 'friends' option. If anything, use social media. Infidelity suck…
/r/Divorce_Men26/05/23 12:25 PM
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Your therapist told you to join Tinder to talk to women after being separated 2 months? Lol. Might need to find another therapist. Matches mean nothing. There are so many fake profiles and women who are literally bored and want validation. Out of 100 matches, maybe a handful make it to the 1st date. If you're not ready, then focus on yourself and your purpose. Confidence can be achieved by other things other than seeking validation on dating apps. Good luck, man. You got this.
/r/Divorce_Men26/05/23 02:49 AM
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Must be austin at that price. 🤣
/r/Divorce_Men25/05/23 09:01 PM
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Nice. Im a fellow golfer! I'm not angry about the cheating but don't care any longer.
/r/Divorce_Men24/05/23 06:34 PM
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This sounds cliche, but leave the past in the past. Every 'failure' brings opportunity to learn and grow. Figure out your part of the marriage demise and work on those things. Mine cheated, but at the end of the day....there were things i could have done better (i will never forgive her cheating). I became a nice guy in marriage. I stopped my hobbies, gym, hanging out with friends, etc. You can sit around and blame yourself, but your time is better spent making improvements in your body, career,…
/r/Divorce_Men24/05/23 11:53 AM
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Are you talking about his ex wife? Amazon was built long before Lauren Sanchez came around.
/r/Divorce_Men23/05/23 01:27 AM
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Because that is my experience and my opinion. It's not just the women per se, but the garbage court system we have.
/r/Divorce_Men22/05/23 08:07 PM
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Correct. Especially to a Western woman. It's no marriage, no co habitation (in TX) and no long tern relationships. Marriage goes against our biology. I'm not losing 'half' again at my age. No fn way.
/r/Divorce_Men22/05/23 01:13 PM
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When people understand the difference between how men and women process things, they will realize that once divorce or separation is brought up, it is over. Most women go through mourning the death of the marriage while we have no clue. You can't save something that only you see as salvageable.
/r/Divorce_Men11/05/23 07:00 PM
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The best 'karma' we can hope for is to tell them "No, I'm good" when they come crawling back. Stay strong. She thought she could do better, like many women do.
/r/Divorce_Men10/05/23 12:16 AM
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But you are classifying these people as unhappy/angry, so aren't you doing the same thing? No disrespect, but it's a divorce sub. It's like being on a bully sub and someone saying we should talk nice about bullies. Many men have been totally f$$$ over in divorce. Everyone has different experiences, and we give advice based on those experiences and other things we learn. There are good women out there, but i feel it's getting harder and harder to find. You have to vett, vett, vett. The regular di…
/r/Divorce_Men08/05/23 05:02 PM
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Why do you equate this to a man being 'unhappy'? I'm choosing not to get married again, period. Statistics don't lie. I'm too old to go through this b.s. again. It's not about hating women but understanding them better. If that's not you, then go for it. I can respect your choice. It's just not for me. I'm extremely happy with my post divorce life. It baffles when some of us get labled hurt, angry, etc, because we don't want marriage again. A new beginning does not have to be a relationship/marr…
/r/Divorce_Men08/05/23 04:38 PM
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Proceed, take the hit, learn your lesson, and move on. It does not matter that things were purchased with 'your' money or 'your' credit. She owms half of assets and liabilities accrued during the marriage. Texas is a community property state. Talk to an attorney immediately. Expect to give up something to get out of this marriage. Marriage laws favor women, especially in this situation (her not working, etc). Good luck.
/r/Divorce_Men08/05/23 01:26 AM
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We see this time and time again. Separation is divorce practice and a waste of time, IMO. It gives her time to go out with new guys and have you as a backup in case options A,B,C, and D don't work out. Do not think for one second that she is going to bed at 8 pm. after knitting blankets all day. She probably has been involved with another guy or has one in mind. Women seldom announce divorce/separation without a place to land. 'My wife would never' do that....well, many come back to confirm they…
/r/Divorce_Men07/05/23 10:59 PM
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The way women work is the reason reconciliation doesn't work. It's a joke and a huge waste of time. There is no need to keep us updated. We know how the story ends.
/r/Divorce_Men07/05/23 03:05 AM
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You have to live with you for the rest of your life. Get to know YOU more. Many of us get used to having someone around dyring marriage and get dependent on that person. Well, you were alone before them and you can do it again. Some of the best things i've done were after divorce. Take this negative event and use it to restart your life. What goals do you have? Get your money, career, body, and mind to top levels. Stay busy. Go out by yourself and meet people. I go golfing by myself and get pair…
/r/Divorce_Men05/05/23 11:59 PM
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Lol, no. But i'm a devout follower of CGA.
/r/Divorce_Men03/05/23 08:54 PM
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Guys are still like.....but my new woman is different. 🤣 Marriage in the west is done. If anything, it should be a 5 year contract. When it ends, you move on to the next or remain an unsigned free agent. Lol.
/r/Divorce_Men03/05/23 12:21 PM
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If the shoe was on the other foot, she would not give a single F about you. You got this, bro.
/r/Divorce_Men02/05/23 01:29 AM
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This is the same woman who was involved with another guy not long ago, correct? She will find some dude that will take her in. Worry about you and your kids and not what she's going to do. Like you said previously, she got what she asked for (divorce).. She is not your problem any longer.
/r/Divorce_Men02/05/23 12:20 AM
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Equivalent price, but the house route is more liability to you. Insurance rates are increasing, property taxes increasing. Whose to say she will maintain the property? Man, talk to an attorney, but id pay alimony. How does she estimate she can refi in 7 years? Anything can happen between now and then.
/r/Divorce_Men29/04/23 10:29 PM
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So, she obviously can't pay for it now. Are you saying you would pay while she lives there for 7 years? No fn way would i do that. You would be 100% responsible for the house during those 7 years. She could burn it to the ground. Who knows. And who says she can afford it in 7 years? No bro. This is not even a question. Sell it. Payoff the mortgage and split the rest (or whatever your attorney suggests).
/r/Divorce_Men29/04/23 09:41 PM
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Do something for yourself. Go out to eat. Golfing/bowling. Invite friends over or go meet them. Take a solo trip.
/r/Divorce_Men27/04/23 06:52 PM
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Sorry you are going through this. There are some great bros on this sub. We see story after story like yours. It's too common to be a coincidence. Women initiate or file for divorce 80-90% of the time. Think about that stat. Men are really in it for the long haul, but most women are constantly evaluating the relationship / marriage. TV shows, movies, social media, feminism all contribute to her emotions about the relationship. Women 'deserve' a bigger and better deal (or so they think). I never …
/r/Divorce_Men27/04/23 06:49 PM
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Amazon
/r/Divorce_Men21/04/23 03:05 PM
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Once you understand women and relationships, you will realize divorce is not failure. 50% divorce rate, another 45% married and unhappy IMO. Women file for divorce 80-90% of the time. Yes, there is a grieving process, and most women go through it LONG before they announce it. They usually have a man lined up also. This is why the show zero towards you at the end. Many men want to label it narcissism, BPD, mid-life crisis, etc. Now, those are out there (diagnosed by a doctor), but most people try…
/r/Divorce_Men21/04/23 03:04 PM
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Even if my ex felt she wanted me back she would never, ever admit it or act on it. I've made it clear that there is no FN way.
/r/Divorce_Men21/04/23 01:02 PM
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In some of your comments, you indicate your asking so you don't get cheated on. I recommend you spend a lot of time learning about the female nature in relationships. Richard Cooper, Rollo Tomassi, Coach Greg Adams, etc are guys you want to follow (or read their books). You have your own path, so you can do what you want with their advice. But not getting cheated on has more to do with you than you think. You have to set boundries and stick to them. Don't ever stop improving yourself and executi…
/r/Divorce_Men09/04/23 03:10 PM
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Spend less time controlling her situation and more time pushing this deal through the courts. They are both sidetracked by 'in love' chemicals and think they are forever. Lol. Most relationships last 18 months. Take advantage now as she will have a different perspective if they break up. I know my ex did. The other guy has no idea if he is a 1st time step parent, especially with a special needs kid. 2nd marriage divorce rates are already high. In the end, they are going to do what they want, no …
/r/Divorce_Men07/04/23 06:42 PM
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What state? Is the mortgage assumable? You may have done this, but check with your attorney. In some states, you can do quit claim deed instead of a refi. Refinace after divorce is a damn money grab. If you qualify to make the payment, there should be a law where you can automatically remove ex wife from the deed without doing a refi (assuming that is agreed to or court ordered).
/r/Divorce_Men06/04/23 01:02 PM
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I wondered this same thing in the beginning, as i went through a similar experience. Then, i learned more and more about women in relationships. Women work on emotion, so you are only as good as what you did yesterday. You are right. They do not care. Learn more about females in marriage / relationships. A marriage to a 'career' woman seldom works out, IMO. Reconciliation is a joke. Women spend months and even years slowly mouring the death of the marriage and planning their 'escape' without you…
/r/Divorce_Men06/04/23 12:55 PM
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I'm officially 50/50 of 2, but the oldest decided to live with me 2 years ago. Ex did not fight it. Oldest does not even want to visit my ex. I try and encourage it, but not all the time. Youngest comes over more than 50% of the time (she asks or i invite). My ex does tv or gives them a tablet for entertainment. I do things with them. I'm trying to take advantage before the teen years where i'm not cool any longer. 😎
/r/Divorce_Men04/04/23 05:38 PM
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Think of it this way, if the shoe was on the other foot, she would not give a single f about your situation. Most of the 'support' you are trying to give sounds like people pleasing. Read 'No More Mr. Nice Guy'. Block her on all social media. Once she moves, then you can start your path. Seeing her now is like re'opening a wound. Also, learn all you can about females and relationships. Make your own decision, but it's been a massive help to me. I realized a woman is just a temporary part of your…
/r/Divorce_Men04/04/23 11:34 AM
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It sucks, but most mutual 'friends' pick sides. And remember.....no matter what, you are the bad guy in her story. My ex told people she felt like 'a battered woman'. Like, wtf? I guess she needed something to validate her cheating. Just stick to doing the best you can. Don't try and explain to them that she is lying about you. It won't help. Take the loss and get better supporting friends.
/r/Divorce_Men04/04/23 11:22 AM
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Yes, my ex did the same. Joining every social media platform possible, working out, coming home at 2 a.m., etc. My ex then got a boyfriend. Guess what? The kids saw all this and felt ignored by her. We have 50/50, and the oldest chose to live with me 100% a few years back. The youngest asks to come over all the time. My ex and her boyfriend broke up, and now she is back to her 'old' self and trying to re-establish a connection with our kids. Its a phase, but it sucks. I cohabited for some months…
/r/Divorce_Men02/04/23 04:02 PM
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I'm at no cohabitation, no long-term relationships, and no marriage. I just don't see the point. I'm 47 and not losing anything else to a woman. Humans are not built for long-term relationships, IMO. Feminisim is at an all-time high, and most women have over inflated ego's because of the likes/messages they get from average dudes just hoping they have a chance to bang. Decent married women have male 'friends' just waiting for their chance. Man, I never thought i'd have this view 3 years ago, but…
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/23 02:48 PM
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Unless you are the top 20% of men, dating is trash for the most part. Even 5/6's get attention, validation, and non-stop messages. They have hundreds of messages in their online dating profiles. 100% of the women want the top 20% of guys. The good news is that men's value typically goes up over time while women's value goes down. Gym, money, and status are what women look for. Increase those things. Focus less on women. If you feel you are doomed and just trying to get laid, join seeking arrange…
/r/Divorce_Men30/03/23 11:57 AM
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Facts. Biggest hoes are in the medical field IMO.
/r/Divorce_Men30/03/23 11:02 AM
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Female robots are making huge advances! 🤣
/r/Divorce_Men29/03/23 01:39 PM
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I'm 3 years post divorce, and it gets better and better. You have a great attitude about your ex. She is someone else's problem now. I challenge you to learn everything about female nature and relationships before you date. You can make your own decision. It's not about hating women it's about understanding them. Many guys blame their ex 100%, but the same issues are in the next relationship. Im not getting married again. I can't think of a single positive reason to get married, but many negativ…
/r/Divorce_Men29/03/23 12:21 PM
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The whole 'I need space' snd 'i need time alone' is b.s. That can be done at the house. She is likely going to be with another guy. Get ready for the 'i love you, but i'm not in love with you' when she gets back. She'll also demand separation/divorce. Or you could believe she's going to sit around knitting blankets and going to bed at 8 pm. Good luck, man, but i would start doing some thinking on your own....about divorce.
/r/Divorce_Men28/03/23 02:40 AM
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Yes, its called cake eating. Think about it. They have a man to take care of their sexual desires and the 'husband' at home, taking care of things financially and being her emotional tampon. It's the best of both worlds for them. They don't want it to end because it forces them to be with new guy. I filed for divorce as she would not file. She wanted the comfort of marriage but also wanted to 'date'. Lol. Gtfoh.
/r/Divorce_Men27/03/23 01:06 PM
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Yeah, I agree. Snapchat is good for teen kids and adult cheaters. I found thousands of text messages to a certain phone number months later. 'He's just a friend'. LoL. My friends have not seen me naked. 🤣 hang in there bro.
/r/Divorce_Men26/03/23 09:53 PM
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Yes, that is how most women work. They find a new man before they announce separation / divorce. They don't leave their current man until the new one shows promise. They lie about it as long as they can. Once divorced, dude's are like,'she got into a relationship quickly'. No, she has been in that relationship for some time. It sucks, but it is extremely common.
/r/Divorce_Men26/03/23 09:45 PM
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Her respect for you is gone, and it's all downhill after that. You are not overreacting. There is no reason for a married woman to have male friends, especially ex boyfriends. Etc.. What is the point? Are they going to meet up and play checkers? Maybe the woman thinks it's friends, but her guy 'friends' are just waiting at their chance to bang her. Meanwhile, you will be called controlling for having this thought. You can't mess with a woman's need to get validation. If you do, prepare to be cal…
/r/Divorce_Men26/03/23 02:27 PM
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You need to run this by an attorney, and it depends on jurisdiction. Some of this b.s. does not matter (e.g., I did all the housework, etc). Welcome to the club where courts don't care. Most states don't even care about affairs. But, anything that impacts the safety of the kids does. Suicide attempts, threats, etc, likely matter. Why would you not request 100%? Let the courts knock it down to 50/50 if they see fit.
/r/Divorce_Men26/03/23 01:54 PM
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She can't kick you out of the house, but don't leave the marital home. Women who want 'space' typically have found a new guy and want to explore that option. It sucks to hear, but I don't make the rules. Just know, there is no 'limbo'. Women go through the death of the marriage over months or years. She might be 'nice' to you, but don't mistake this for wanting the marriage to work. That is over. She is likely trying to get a more favorable divorce settlement.
/r/Divorce_Men25/03/23 01:08 PM
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This is the night nurse who cheated on you, correct? Ironically, she will further lose respect if you backpedal now. Her plans A, B, and C did not work out, so she's back to plan D (you).
/r/Divorce_Men24/03/23 05:11 PM
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Women don't just decide it's over. They do this over months or years in some cases. I think most of us were naive in the 1st marriage. Men and women work differently. Men are willing to hang in a marriage a lot longer. Women work on emotion and what they are feeling. They continually evaluate their relationships. And 'no adultry'.....maybe on your part, but the truth is most women have a guy in mind or are already involved with by the time divorce comes up. 'Not my wife' is the same thing I thou…
/r/Divorce_Men24/03/23 05:05 PM
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Yep, and get ready for her to file a fake restaining order. Textbook behavior. You'll get through this man
/r/Divorce_Men24/03/23 04:49 PM
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Stop waiting for a good time to file. There is none. Call her bluff and get it done. Go see or call an attorney ASAP.
/r/Divorce_Men24/03/23 04:46 PM
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Celebrating it gives it meaning. It meant nothing to me, and i'm not trying to remind myself of it each year. It's in the past. Don't even know the date it was final.
/r/Divorce_Men24/03/23 04:43 PM
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Oh wow...a felony. I'm in texas, where it's no fault and women are incentivized to cheat. You got this man. Life is better on the other side, but it takes time.
/r/Divorce_Men24/03/23 03:10 PM
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Most women have a place to land when separation/divorce is mentioned. Some guys find out about the affair, others don't and/or don't believe their wife would ever do that to them. Lol. My ex wanted to stay legally married and live separately until our kids turned 18. Haha. She really thought i'd agree to her FN other dudes while she uses me as an emotional tampon and 'babysitter'. Take the bull by the hirns and go file. That is what i did. There is never a good time to do it. And unless it's man…
/r/Divorce_Men24/03/23 01:11 PM
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Yes, mine did too but would not file. She wanted to stay married but separated until our kids were 18. No fn thanks. I filed.
/r/Divorce_Men23/03/23 05:16 PM
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Yep, 80-90% of divorce filings are by women except those of us men who filed because we were tired of the limbo b.s. Filing was one of the most empowering things I have done. Why? Because she did not think i would do it. Good luck bro.
/r/Divorce_Men23/03/23 05:11 PM
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"This is the way" ~Mandalorian
/r/Divorce_Men23/03/23 03:32 PM
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Where's the bot that deletes these posts automatically? Lord
/r/Divorce_Men23/03/23 01:14 AM
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This is the best 'karma' one can hope for. The ex pings you, and you say 'hell no'. Keep going, bro
/r/Divorce_Men23/03/23 01:09 AM
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Go watch 'the marriage wheel' by Coach Greg Adam on YouTube. It will give you some insight on how most marriages go.
/r/Divorce_Men21/03/23 11:40 PM
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She does not regret anything that happened, she only regrets that her new dude did not work out. You are the backup plan and always will be. Do you really think you are going to trust her again? No. What example are you showing your kids? Get cheated on, but take that woman back. I don't care if its their mom or not. Have some boundaries and self-respect. Do you think new relationships are hard? Try one where someone cheated. They don't work. And who cares if you got laid after? Why would you ca…
/r/Divorce_Men21/03/23 05:33 PM
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Stay connected to a cheater? No thanks. Who cares for the reason or if she is sorry (which most are only sorry they got caught). What boundaries are you setting for yourself? Someone can cheat on you, and you'll still 'be there for them'? She can cheat and still have the luxury of having you around? Have respect for yourself, and don't be a doormat. Too many people out there who won't treat you like trash. Good luck, bro.
/r/Divorce_Men20/03/23 10:41 PM
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Gun shy on what?
/r/Divorce_Men20/03/23 04:40 PM
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Depending on the state, be fn careful. Separation means she could nail you on adultry. Most states don't care, though. The advice would be to go on casual dates and not pick up drunk chicks at 2:00 am at your bar. Do not entertain a relationship right now, either. 100% of women want the top 20% of guys. If that is not you, improve yourself. Gym, money, successful group of friends, career, etc. Learn everything you can about women and relationships and make your own decisions about relationships.…
/r/Divorce_Men20/03/23 03:28 PM
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Start the divorce process. She might not want anything now, but that will change. She likely has someone else in the wings as women seldom leave for no reason or without another guy lined up. It sucks, but you need to step up and be a leader for those kids. You can't control her actions, only your response to her actions. I can only imagine the b.s. advice you'll get from the divorce sub. I think i'm banned from that sub still. Good luck man.
/r/Divorce_Men19/03/23 08:11 PM
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You have limited time with your kids in your life. As you know (with the 17 year old) once kids hit the teen years, they don't want to be around you much. If you were 5 years old and your dad moved away to be with a woman, how would you take that? If you can't be 'lonely' and enjoy yourself, what do you expect to find? You will not find happiness in a woman. You want to escape thinking that will cure everything. Once the newness wears off, you'll have the same feeling as you do now. Relationship…
/r/Divorce_Men17/03/23 04:54 PM
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Why does it not work? Because men and women are different. Women go through the 'death' of the marriage months or years before the say things like 'i'm not happy' or 'i need space' or 'I love you, but i'm not in love with you'. When they are done, they are DONE. They are involved with another guy or have one lined up. When men hear the 'separate' words, they panic and beg, plead, suggest marriage counseling, manipulate, etc. And this point does not include the cluster f%$$ of marriage counselors…
/r/Divorce_Men17/03/23 12:46 PM
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RIP Patrice!!
/r/Divorce_Men16/03/23 03:40 PM
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Self development suggestion is to own your part of the marriage demise and work on those things. Most people blame the other person 100%, but that is rarely the case. The same problems then happen again. My ex cheated, BUT i lost sight of friends, hobbies, interests, gym, golf, etc. Learn everything you can about women in marriage and relationships. Make your own decision, but no marriage, no co-habitation, and no long-term relationships for me. I'm too 'old' to do divorce or lose half again. Fo…
/r/Divorce_Men16/03/23 02:36 PM
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As a divorced man and a child of divorce, it was not my parents' divorce that got me. It was the subsequent step moms, step dads, step brothers, and step sisters that messed me up. I have two kids, and bringing more kids into a relationship is not something i will do (at least not school-aged kids). Major factor in 2nd divorces.
/r/Divorce_Men14/03/23 12:20 PM
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It's really just an extremely common scenario.
/r/Divorce_Men14/03/23 12:30 AM
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Bro! Broke 80. F yeah. Great job.
/r/Divorce_Men13/03/23 10:08 PM
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I don't blame you on that one man
/r/Divorce_Men13/03/23 07:26 PM
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Don't feel like a fool. This happens in most separations/divorce, IMO. It's a punch to the ego, but it is bound to happen. Women and men are just different in relationships. 'She was't yours. It was just your turn' (not my quote....probably Richard Cooper or Rollo Tomassi)
/r/Divorce_Men13/03/23 06:57 PM
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This is a textbook story for many of us. We marry a woman thinking this is for life. The marriage is great in the beginnings, but after the honeymoon phase, things decline. A couple of kids come out, which creates additional stress on the marriage. Sex declines or stops altogether. The woman, who works on emotion, starts to question her 'happiness' in the marriage (a marriage or a man should not be her happiness, btw). Certain flaws that did not bother her now do, which adds more fuel to the fir…
/r/Divorce_Men13/03/23 06:39 PM
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The very 1st year we tried at a trampoline park. Families and friends came from both sides. Very FN awkward. People did not know how to react. Yes, it's for the kids, but there was a white elephant in the room. Never again after that. Separate parties are better, IMO. In my case, i do the party, and she just drops gifts off. She puts zero effort into parties at her house. Even 'forgot' to put out Easter Bunny candy last year when they were with her. Stick to your guns.
/r/Divorce_Men13/03/23 01:40 PM
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She already F%$$ed this guy. She's asking this now to feel better about it. You can't turn a hoe into a housewife. Divorce, bro.
/r/Divorce_Men09/03/23 10:49 PM
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Exactly
/r/Divorce_Men07/03/23 05:51 PM
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I was married to a night shift nurse. Same b.s. i did everything with the kids, house, and i had to try and work 60 hours a week (from home). She wanted to separate, and i knew there was more to it. I found hundreds of messages to a certain number in the months leading up to separation. Still won't admit it to this day, and she told me she felt like a 'battered woman' when separating. Beoootch...GTFOH....
/r/Divorce_Men07/03/23 05:49 PM
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Not trying to turn you totally red pill, but having an extroverted 'hot' woman is a hassle in most cases. I experienced the same. Go check out richard Cooper, rollo tomassi, etc. Go watch 'the marriage wheel' by Coach greg adams on youtube. I'm really interested in your thoughts.
/r/Divorce_Men07/03/23 04:57 PM
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You got this bro. It takes time. Any physical activity will help with stress/anxiety. Do it at home to start off. I fn hate working out, but i go 6 days a week. I became way too comfortable in my marriage. I got out of shape, stopped hanging with friends, stayed at a mediocre job, etc.
/r/Divorce_Men07/03/23 04:12 PM
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It sucks, but don't put her on a pedistal bro. This is an all too common theme. Women know they are going to separate months, if not years before you find out. Women plan their escape and there is usually another man in mind when she finally pulls the trigger. Women don't divorce / separate and plan to sit around knitting blankets and going to bed at 8 pm. Women work on emotions, so all those things you did for her do not matter. It's what you did last for her. Men, on the other hand are willing…
/r/Divorce_Men06/03/23 09:56 PM
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I think hypergamy applies to all women, but not all act on it. I'm never getting married again, but i think it's possible for some, but a 67% divorce rate? No thanks. Our biology is not meant for marriage. Men want unlimited sex from unlimited women. Women want support and provisioning. Im not trying to offend anyone from a religious standpoint, but with social media and online dating, marriage is a no-win situation.
/r/Divorce_Men06/03/23 06:17 PM
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It's not about her 'red flags' but how marriages go these days. Understand hypergamy in women and how most will use you up until something 'better' comes along. You can guarantee she has someone lined up. Women don't divorce just for the fun of it. Their biology needs provisioning from a man, even if they are working. Women work on emotion, not logic. You are only as good as what you provided yesterday. You get married, get through the honeymoon phase, pop out a few kids, and then the real perso…
/r/Divorce_Men06/03/23 05:45 PM
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You stay fn busy improving yourself always in ALL ways. Gym, sleep, eat good, hobbies, and close friends. You realize that all relationships end. I.e she wasn't yours, it was just your turn. 50% divorce rate, another 40% married and unhappy. 80-90% of women initiate divorce. 80-109% of the women want the top 10% of guys. It's like going to a casino and getting pissed you did not win. The chips are stacked against men. You realize she will do the same thing to the next guy that she did to you. Yo…
/r/Divorce_Men06/03/23 12:54 AM
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You really need to research women in relationships more and make a better informed decision. You know the stats suck for marriage #2, especially when married to a college educated woman. A 30% success rate? No FN, thanks. If you aren't ready for a relationship, then don't start one. And don't believe her past relationship stories. We are all the villains in our ex's story.
/r/Divorce_Men05/03/23 10:26 PM
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Go watch 'The Marriage Wheel' by Coach Greg Adams on youtube. This will summarize the marriage and how it will end.
/r/Divorce_Men04/03/23 12:53 PM
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Your attorney recommended dating apps? I'd find another lawyer. Your focus right now is you and the divorce. I'm not saying don't 'talk' to women, but in some states you can get pinned with adultry if you are still technically married. Yes, when women are done, they are DONE. They experience the death of the marriage months, if not years, before she initiates separation / divorce. Women initiate divorce 80-90% of the time. Men and women are different in many ways. Women work on emotions. It's al…
/r/Divorce_Men04/03/23 12:33 PM
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Understood. You got this, bro!
/r/Divorce_Men03/03/23 10:38 PM
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Man, congrats! As far as confronting her. It's not going to feel as good as you think. Why? You will never get any kind of apology from a cheating woman. Mine still won't admit it directly, and all the proof is out there. You can be pissed, but telling her you 'know' won't have any impact. The story in her head (and what her 'friends' tell her) is that you caused her unhapiness, so that made it okay. Soneone told me 'anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die'. And as fa…
/r/Divorce_Men03/03/23 10:20 PM
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Look up co parenting apps. There are several. Apps like family wizard has calendar, journals, message boards, etc.
/r/Divorce_Men03/03/23 01:40 PM
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You're okay with her cheating / talking to other men behind your back? And let's keep it real, she was talking to him way before separation was brought up. He's probably the reason she planned her exit. That's just a big F no for me. You're basically saying her that no matter what she does, you are cool with it. Wishing you luck on your journey, bro.
/r/Divorce_Men03/03/23 03:17 AM
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She has you by a string bro and she knows it. She is happy as hell she is getting out of the marriage and gets to be with her new man. It is nothing else! She has zero consequences for her actions. Stop accepting this b.s. Set some boundaries and stop looking for things that are not there. Don't be a d%$$ but don't engage in this b.s. (handholding, hugs, etc).
/r/Divorce_Men02/03/23 07:18 PM
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Don't let your age or lack of family / support force you to stay with someone like that. Someone who does stonewalling as conflict resolution will end badly for you. Do you want kids to be around that b.s.? You've got to respect yourself, or no one will. Go file.
/r/Divorce_Men02/03/23 01:54 PM
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Yes. Agree. I had the same thing happen. You and your kids deserve better. I went and finally filed. Both my kids are doing very well.
/r/Divorce_Men02/03/23 12:01 PM
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When your kids are older, get married and come to you for advice in this same situation....what would you tell them? Stay unhappy and stick it out? Get cheated on (assuming this is what happened to you) and stay in the marriage? Hell no. Im happy my parents divorced. It was their choices in partners after that sucked. Believe it or not, your unhappiness / frustration will come out on your kids. You are doing no favors staying in an unhappy marriage.
/r/Divorce_Men02/03/23 02:14 AM
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Don't. If you have kids, help them get something for her. That's it. The marriage is over. She is not your responsibility any longer, no matter how much you get along.
/r/Divorce_Men01/03/23 08:27 PM
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Women overvalue themselves mainly because they get hit on non-stop and get many 'likes' and messages on social media. Thirsty men hoping they have a chance with her are not helping matters. They then think they deserve top-tier men. Even a 4/5 rated girl can get attention. 100% of the women want the top 20% of men.. They finally settle for less as they get older and want kids, but when the opportunity comes to 'level up', they do. Learn about hypergamy. Put your head down and focus on your goals…
/r/Divorce_Men01/03/23 01:52 AM
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Narcissistic is IMO. Most have no clue what it is. I got called that for posting a gym selfie, which i rarely do. 🤣🤣 Narcissism is mentioned in 70% of relationship subs. Don't you dare care about yourself or your body!
/r/Divorce_Men28/02/23 09:21 PM
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I agree with your statement. Most are non-assumable these days, except what you mention. The auumption clause is part of the mortgage, not part of the 'divorce' as OP says. I was referring to the refinancing piece. Many think you can just do a quit claim deed to get out of both names into one, but that is not allowed in my jurisdiction. It's (refinancing) a damn money grab IMO. I had to refi into a higher rate.
/r/Divorce_Men28/02/23 12:48 AM
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Depends on state. In Texas, you have to refi, which is total b.s. if you can afford it. You can't go the quit claim deed route.
/r/Divorce_Men27/02/23 10:49 PM
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If your gut says cheating, she is. Women usually have someone before divorce even starts. They don't 'just divorce' unless its an extreme case of abuse, etc. Most guys are like,'My wife would never do that'....lol....b.s. it's too easy nowadays to stay in touch with other people on all these apps. If she has started working out, going out, seems super happy, i guarantee she is cheating. Now, in my case, this was a good thing as i used it to get more favorable terms in the divorce. I pushed the d…
/r/Divorce_Men27/02/23 10:29 PM
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If she's comparing you to other men, she is likely just as ready as you are. Consult with an attorney first, so you have a game plan. You may get along fine now, but that can quickly change, especially if she does not work. Women have huge incentives to divorce. Do not leave your home or agree to any terms without a lawyer. Don't be completely shocked if she is cheating. Most women have back ups on their roster. Most women compare their husband to other men, especially if not 'happy'. Something …
/r/Divorce_Men26/02/23 07:21 PM
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What posts are you reading? Lots of 'success'' stories on here. The bad part is trying for equality during the divorce process, which is a bulk of the posts on this sub. Women are incentivized to divorce, even when there is adultry. The other side is great. i will never get married again. I've learned a lot over the last few years about the female nature in relationships. I don't need the government involved in my relationships. I am not meant to be in a long-term relationship / marriage. Do I d…
/r/Divorce_Men25/02/23 02:26 PM
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What internet article is this from? We're getting a lot of copy/paste posts on this sub recently.
/r/Divorce_Men25/02/23 11:48 AM
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I am not trying to minimize what you are going through, but you are young, bro. I got divorced at 45 after being with her since 25 years old (and many guys on here longer than that). It is frustrating that time is lost. Relationships don't last forever. The days of lifelong marriages are over IMO. I won't get married again. I've learned too much about women and am not risking losing half again. Dust yourself off, get up, and take it one day at a time. You can't change the past. Look ahead....tha…
/r/Divorce_Men25/02/23 01:03 AM
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No, you listen to what she is clearly asking for and proceed with divorce. The more you pressure/ask, the faster she will run.
/r/Divorce_Men24/02/23 03:16 AM
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Every woman is a keeper in the beginning, but yet here we all are in the divorce sub. I'm no marriage, no long-term relationships, and no co-habitation. Other than that, relationships are fun. I get it. It's not for everyone. I'm not risking my finances at my age (40's). I just don't think i am built for long-term relationships. I'm set in my ways, like my freedom, and don't need the government involved. Good luck!
/r/Divorce_Men22/02/23 12:07 PM
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Cut off contact with her. You're on "good terms" only because you have hope. You need to learn more about women to figure out she is gone. She does not respect you, and you are not respecting yourself. Imagine you are walking on the street. A woman rated as a 3 comes up to you professing her love. She follows you around, saying,'I love you!' You tell her she is not interested. The next day, she comes up and gives you some gifts, hoping you will change your mind. You tell her again that you are n…
/r/Divorce_Men21/02/23 01:07 PM
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Agree. Men want youth, beauty, loyalty, low body count, and not flashing ass every day on IG. etc. But when we say this, it's misogyny. When 'older' women want a 6' tall man making 6 figures, it's okay. Women can't accept they are in their prime in early / mid twenties. Men are in their prime, starting around 35 on up. Why? Because men value beauty and women value success/provisioning. It's in our biology. Yet, women in 30's / 40's with several kids think their 'value is the same as a 25 year ol…
/r/Divorce_Men20/02/23 05:39 PM
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No, it's a pipe dream. I don't know of a single couple that have reconciled. Men and women work differently. When women are done....They are done. Let me guess....she asked for separation/divorce and moved out "temporarily." What do you think she is doing......Knitting blankets and going to bed at 8 pm? You are plan D while she is looking for A, B, and C. If a woman wants a divorce, give it to her. Now, that doesn't mean something won't happen years down the road (assuming she did not cheat, whi…
/r/Divorce_Men20/02/23 12:15 AM
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This is par for the course. What most men don't realize is that they had that man before she even initiated separation/divorce. Women don't just leave marriages without a place to land. It's a hard truth. Good luck bro.
/r/Divorce_Men16/02/23 07:32 PM
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The real question is.....why do you care? Any correspondence not related to kids, delete it. Don't respond. She does not care about you. You are the bad guy in her story and always will be. Cheaters blame others for their cheating and never take accountability. Set some boundaries by telling her not to message you unless it's about kids.
/r/Divorce_Men15/02/23 02:00 AM
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Bro, your first paragraph is riddled with emotion. Cancel this meeting. You're hurt, pissed, and you won't control your emotion. You have zero to gain by this meeting. It's a control move. You will not control what she does, no matter what happens in the 'meeting'. The divorce decree is all that matters in the long run. She already proved she does not respect you by cheating, and you think she's going to listen to you for two hours? Don't do it, man, it will not go how you think it will.
/r/Divorce_Men14/02/23 01:56 AM
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You got this man. You will come back stronger than ever.
/r/Divorce_Men12/02/23 02:39 PM
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The regular divorce sub, which many of us have been banned from for simply talking about men's rights/equality during the divorce process. 🙄 🙄🙄
/r/Divorce_Men11/02/23 04:28 PM
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This is a very common scenario for marriage. Keep a record of all of her spending. What stage is the divorce in? Push this thing through while she is occupied with her new man. Fight for what is yours, and you'll likely get it. Do this before they break up because she will fight for everything then. Thousands of men get 'blindsided', and this is why women initiate 80-90% of divorces. Get back to pre-marriage you. Stay FN busy, and your #1 priority is to get this divorce over with. Expect them to…
/r/Divorce_Men11/02/23 02:19 PM
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There is no woman to get you out of the 'mud'. You have to do it yourself. Seeking validation can come from childhood, but also from not being the best you can be. It might be the latter since you were on top of your game before. Get back in the gym seriously and set some goals. Exercise is the single most effective thing to do. I hate going, but i get my ass up and go 6 days a week. Don't join spots groups unless you know how to play.....some people take these things very seriously. Do you thin…
/r/Divorce_Men11/02/23 01:53 PM
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Why do you think you are ready for any relationship at this point? Why would you go back to her? Every 'new woman' seems awesome in the beginning, or none of us would have married them in the first place. The options you present don't make sense, so this seems like spam to me.
/r/Divorce_Men09/02/23 06:40 PM
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Jesus....stop posting this same thing to 50 different subs. Read your first paragraph. Are you serious? You don't need to be in any relationship now. Get a grip and focus on yourself.
/r/Divorce_Men09/02/23 06:27 PM
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What did they do to you? Yes, i get it. It's awkward, and you don't get along with the ex. Maybe they don't give af? Maybe they think you are an okay guy. I get along with most of my ex's family. Some don't talk to me. Don't leave the gym. Your ex would love to hear that. Instead, become a beast in the gym. What would James Bond do? He does not give af. Let them deal with the awkwardness. Good luck, bro.
/r/Divorce_Men08/02/23 01:43 PM
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Stop going with the norm. Stop watching the news. Stop getting married. Prepare to speak what you really think and expect to lose friends and suffer other consequences like Andrew Tate. We are not free. There is no 'fredom of speech'. You agree with the populor opinion or get ostracized. Women can do no wrong in this world, and men are looked at as yesterday's garbage.
/r/Divorce_Men08/02/23 01:32 PM
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You had to go through this to learn a lesson. Now, get back to your pre marriage self and level up. Set FN boundaries. And don't think she is the only woman that cheats. Many have few red flags and still cheat. Start learning about hypergamy and the female nature in relationships. Not all act on it, but it's biology. It's no marriage, no long-term relationships, and no co-habitation for me, but it's not for everyone. I just don't think humans are built for marriage, not in today's world. Good lu…
/r/Divorce_Men08/02/23 01:26 PM
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Bro, pull yourself together and accept reality. It's over. You are getting divorced. You are going to treat yourself right and be the best damn dad you can be. Be strong during this time. If you think the sky is falling, then so will your kids. If you are fearful of the future, the kids will feel unsafe. Take this as an opportunity to get FN better. Get in the gym, sleep, eat well, restart hobbies, hang with your core group of friends, etc. When women are done, it is OVER. If she cheated and you…
/r/Divorce_Men07/02/23 11:05 PM
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It's not callous to say, but just keep in mind that women who make more than the man are more likely to divorce. They want equal or higher on the socio-economic scale. Hypergamy is always at play. But to your point, the man will likely lose less when the divorce does happen. Just don't get married.
/r/Divorce_Men07/02/23 10:33 PM
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Re-kindling is overrated and never works out long term, especially with a cheater. You are not ready for another relationship by the sounds of your post. Focus on being great. Gym, good sleep, eat well, hobbies, investments, goals, good male friends. Leveling up in these aspects of your life increases confidence. Go out with friends and practice social skills. Talk to average looking women at the grocery store. You will not get bettet without practice. You don't have to be super outgoing. When y…
/r/Divorce_Men05/02/23 08:35 PM
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The need for validation will kill any relationship you try and have with a woman. A woman is there to compliment your life, not to fill some hole left by something on your past. We, as men, need to be 95% focused on our mission in life. Gym, business, investments, core friends group, hobbies, etc. Work on those things and why you need validation from a woman. Validation is currency for women. If you can't be 100% okay with being by yourself, you are not ready for anyone else in your life.
/r/Divorce_Men05/02/23 06:17 PM
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Yes, no marriage,no co-habitation, no long-term relationships. Learn everything you can about female nature in relationships. Social media is a lie. Most marriages fail or are unhappy. Women file for 80-90% of all divorces. Women have back up men as 'followers' or 'friends' on social media. Validation is like currency to most women. Don't hate or be angry at women, but understand them. Read/folliow rollo tomassi, coach greg adams, richard cooper and dare I say this and risk being 'canceled'.....…
/r/Divorce_Men04/02/23 05:01 PM
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Call an attorney in the previous state to see if you can file there. The time to strike is now when she is focused on her 'new man'. You'll likely get better divorce terms. Plus, you will go nuts living with her while she is cheating right in front of your face.
/r/Divorce_Men02/02/23 01:48 PM
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Well, according to the posts i've seen in the last 6 months, they are on this sub (and probably many more 'lurking'). They get 'half' of this sub also. 🤣🤣
/r/Divorce_Men01/02/23 11:22 PM
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It's part of the script, unfortunately. Go watch 'the marriage wheel' by Coach Greg Adams on Youtube. It will summarize how most marriages get to the point yours is at (including mine). This is not her first time cheating. Get the divorce ball rolling. Confronting her will only cause her to go deeper undercover. It can get you pissed, but try and be 'James Bond'. You could care less what she does as your future just got brighter without her. Good luck, bro.
/r/Divorce_Men01/02/23 11:08 PM
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Coach gang!
/r/Divorce_Men01/02/23 12:31 AM
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This is a divorce sub, so assumptions are made. I mentioned 'relationship' as well. In Texas, you can be viewed as married even when just living together. Married or not, end this relationship. The last thing you need right now is another woman. You have to address why you can't be alone and work on YOU first. Don't bring someone else into this mess until you do.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/23 01:35 PM
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Bro, you are not sure it is over, but you are trying to hook up with other women? Lonely or not, don't be selfish. What do you think your daughter will think of that? What if your wife was doing that? It's time to put on your big boy pants and end this marriage/relationship. Stop trying to meet up with other women until you get through divorce l. Be there for your daughter and focus on you, not other women. Women are always going to be there.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/23 12:36 PM
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This is right on. My ex got to say i divorced her to everyone and got to keep out the tiny part about her cheating. How convenient. 🙄🙄
/r/Divorce_Men30/01/23 05:46 PM
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Same. I was working from home. She worked nights and slept during the day. I literally did everything (stressed to the max), but i should have had the balls to set boundaries. Hard lesson learned. If 90% of women file for divorce, that percentage goes up with men who filed for divorce but it was her idea. Good luck bro.
/r/Divorce_Men30/01/23 05:44 PM
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I'm in texas, but my general opinion is that it's always advantageous to file first......even if it's a psychological advantage. I filed for the divorce my ex wanted. Just like everything else in the marriage, i took care of it. My ex wanted to remain married but separated for 12 years until the kids were 18. No FN thanks. She doesn't think you will do it. Prove her wrong. If you think her not filing means she wants to stay married, get that out of your head. She is free right now and has you ti…
/r/Divorce_Men30/01/23 01:10 PM
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What other strategy is there? Take charge and go fn file. What are you waiting for?
/r/Divorce_Men30/01/23 01:03 PM
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Man, this is leading down divorce road, as you know. I did all the cooking, cleaning, kids and worked & made a high salary. She was a night nurse as well. Turns out nursing was the only thing she was doing at night. She likely has checked out, and there is really no way to turn it around. Don't be shocked if she has a new male work 'friend' that pops up. It turns out women lose respect for any dude that makes less (hypergamy). They want a man who makes equal or above them. They want a provider. …
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/23 09:09 PM
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The more she fights, the faster the divorce goes through so she can be with her new man. It sucks, but it's true. At the tail end, my ex would pick fights over anything. She had never done that in the 17 years i've known her. I will never forget when she said,'I feel like a battered woman' . I was like, wtf? Guess what? Looked at cell phone bill a few months later....hundreds of text messages to 1 certain number. And I'M the bad guy for invading her privacy on our joint cell bill. GTFOH. It's fu…
/r/Divorce_Men28/01/23 02:19 PM
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Definitely cheating, 100%. I was in the same situation with similar 'stats' as you. Then i previewed the cell phone bill and found hundreds of text messages to one certain number over the previous 3 months. My only advice is to act fast with an attorney. I went and filed and did all the legwork to push it through. Once her plan A fails, she will come after spousal support, child support, etc. Be logical on this and swallow your pride as it is female nature. Women are hypergamous, and she found a…
/r/Divorce_Men25/01/23 01:28 PM
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Well FN stated. This is great.
/r/Divorce_Men24/01/23 07:41 PM
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It's time for reality. Separation is divorce, so why is there no movement? Delete the picture and quit trying to figure out the meaning. You will never know why women do things, but why do you care? Sorry for the odd reference, but do you think james bond is going to melt down over a picture like that? No. He moves on by being excellent. Get up today, and drag your ass to the gym. Go 3 x this week, and if you don't feel even 1% better, you can reply to say my advice sucked. The gym helps with st…
/r/Divorce_Men24/01/23 01:08 PM
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Right on, bro. Some hate my advice, but i can only give advice based on my own experience. I never thought i'd have the views I have (and i have 2 daughters....lol). But, i have come to terms with the fact that marriage is a huge gamble. I'm not some woman hater, but I understand their biology/mind better. But, in this day and age, if you say anything truthful about women, you are a misogynist. Women can wear see-through spanex up thier buttcrack with no underware at the gym, but don't dare say …
/r/Divorce_Men23/01/23 04:12 PM
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What did you do before marriage? Do that. I'm back into golf, gym, grilling, and re-connecting with my core group of friends. Yesterday, i went to the gym, put up a fence, grilled and watched football all afternoon. Guess what? No one waa there to bitch about it. Most of us 'lose ourselves' during marriage. It's time for chapter 2 in YOUR book. Let's go!
/r/Divorce_Men23/01/23 01:06 PM
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Bro, stop what you are doing immediately. She is gone, and the marriage is over. The sooner you realize this, the better. When women are done, they are DONE. 90% chance she is cheating on you. Women ALWAYS have a reason to leave and a place to land. 'Not my wife' is a common response, but it's reality once you understand female hypergamous nature. Biologically, men are able to get assigned a task or problem and work on it until fixed. This is a detriment in this situation. You 'want' the marriag…
/r/Divorce_Men22/01/23 11:18 PM
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I'd be the same way, bro, but that relationship won't last. And if it does, you get evidence and present it to your attorney.
/r/Divorce_Men22/01/23 12:31 AM
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Bro, the minute you negotiate hugs, it's over. Sex dwindles in almost every marriage. Our biology is not meant to be with one woman forever. Guys want unlimited sex from unlimited women. Women are hypergamous and are usually looking for a bigger, better deal. You can do all the chores in the world, but it's not going to matter. You are only as good as you were yesterday because women operate on emotion, not logic. Don't concentrate on the other guy by putting him down. Believe it or not, that wi…
/r/Divorce_Men21/01/23 07:16 PM
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Bro, you've got to better yourself always in ALL ways, not just physical. Having a hot woman is a headache in most cases, at least in long term relationships. Even girls that are 5/6's get hit on at some level. My ex-wife was a model, and i'm not brad pitt, but when i met her, i did not give a F. I did what i wanted. Golfing, happy hours with bros, etc. After marriage, i became a beta male beotch. Never again. I'm on a mission to focus on myself. I realize that her next man is going to have to d…
/r/Divorce_Men20/01/23 02:56 PM
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I'm Texas as well. It's a figure of speech, nothing literal. It's the same as you saying people 'come and go'. It means most relationships don't last forever. Enjoy the years you have with them and move on to the next if you choose.
/r/Divorce_Men19/01/23 03:57 AM
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'I want to find myself again'. .'I'm not happy"...."i love you, but I'm not in love with you'......same translation. 🤣🤣
/r/Divorce_Men18/01/23 06:48 PM
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If your happiness is dictated by a relationship, you will never be happy. I'm 3 years post divorce and freaking on top of the world. I just watched football and golfed all weekend with no one bitching about it. Divorce sucked, but i really became stagnant during marriage. I quit hobbies and hanging out with my core friends. Divorce woke me the F up. This is not for everyone, but i did a lot of reading and research. I understand the female nature a whole lot better. It is not about hating women, …
/r/Divorce_Men18/01/23 06:45 PM
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It's like beating the house in a Vegas casino. The odds are stacked against you. Even if you do win, the pit boss will escort your ass out. No FN thanks. I learned my lesson the 1st time. No marriage, no co-habitation, no long-term relationships for me.
/r/Divorce_Men17/01/23 08:52 PM
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You will, but losing your independence is a death sentence. I plan on watching 9 hours of football today with no one bitching about it. I'm happier and a better dad to my two kids.
/r/Divorce_Men15/01/23 05:21 PM
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Yes, i have not married, had a long-term relationship, or co-habited with women since divorce. Total success in my book. I don't measure success by a relationship with a woman. Upgrade yourself in every other way. Good luck bro
/r/Divorce_Men15/01/23 05:19 PM
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This is how most men 'lose' themselves in a marriage. I stopped hanging out with friends, going to the gym, golfing, etc. Why? Because she didn't like it. I will never lose my independence in a relationship again. I became an angry / stressed person. Kids, work, and little to no sex will do that to a man. We need an outlet and a strong group of friends. Don't lose that, or kiss your marriage goodbye.
/r/Divorce_Men15/01/23 04:50 PM
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WWJBD? What Would James Bond Do. Definitely not crying / showing emotion to any woman. On to the next. A woman's biology wants a strong, confident, direct man. Don't believe movies, social media, or women who say they want an emotional man. Be emotional in private if you need to.
/r/Divorce_Men14/01/23 09:00 PM
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I don't know bro, female robots are making huge advances. 🤣🤣
/r/Divorce_Men11/01/23 03:43 PM
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Absolutely, bro! It sucked at first, but glad it happened.
/r/Divorce_Men10/01/23 08:39 PM
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My ex wife started arguments over nothing at the tail end. I know this was shocking, but turns out she was cheating on her 'girls night out'. Now i know this is textbook behavior. Never again.
/r/Divorce_Men10/01/23 01:58 PM
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She's open to work on things? Therapy? Bro, get your life together. You are plan D because her A, B, and C plan did not work out. You think you will ever trust her? No. You think she has any respect for you? No. She will message that other dude in an instanr behind your back. Stop acting like she is the only woman in this world. Get your respect back and proceed with divorce. You are acting like a man with zero options. There is no predicament here. This is not the sub where you are going to get…
/r/Divorce_Men09/01/23 07:42 PM
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My biggest failure in life is not educating myself on the female nature in relationships before marriage. When she asked me to marry her, i should have said no. I knew it was not what i truly wanted at the time, and I was not ready for it. Divorce forced me to learn about the female nature and focus more on myself and my kids. Divorce is a blessing and a curse.
/r/Divorce_Men03/01/23 01:22 PM
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Are you ready to do holidays together when she has a new boyfriend (or you have a girlfriend)? Being friends is overrated, IMO. Typically, one person wants to stay friends because they have a secret hope of getting back together. People may argue that 'it's for the kids', but trying to do things together gives those kids false hope (parents will get back together) as well. You can be friendly and cordial but rip the band aid so the kids can adjust. I let my kids pick out gifts for their mom for …
/r/Divorce_Men02/01/23 01:23 AM
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Seeking arrangements 'dating' site. All women start out genuine and caring, or we would not have married in the first place. It's not worth it to me. No long-term relationships, no cohabitation, and no marriage. It's not for everyone, but I learned my lesson the first time.
/r/Divorce_Men28/12/22 06:28 PM
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I'm 47. No long term relationships, no co-habiation, and absolutely no marriage for me. I'm not losing half again or i'll never retire. My dad married 4 times and still working at 67. You can't build generational wealth with multiple divorces.
/r/Divorce_Men21/12/22 02:05 PM
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It's okay to vent, but own it and move on. You're blaming everyone else. If you're in an 'at will' stare they don't owe you an explanation. The last time you posted it was about banging co workers. The corporate environment is not like it used to be. Trust me, Im no angel but i don't mess around at my job any longer. No happy hours, no jokes, no non business teams chats (they keep IM records), etc.. Everyone is offended by something. You can do things like that but accept the risks, and one of t…
/r/Divorce_Men20/12/22 01:51 AM
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No, not a chance, at least not for the long term. Adding more kids to the mix just complicates things and lessens the already low chances of relationship success. I'm already raising two teen daughters, which is hard enough. Go to seeking arrangements 'dating' site. Relationships are ttransactional anyway, so you might as well keep the drama out of it. I grew up with several step siblings....what a cluster f%$$. Good luck bro
/r/Divorce_Men13/12/22 02:58 PM
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You are not rubbing it in because all relationships start that way. It's the honeymoon phase where the other person is 'perfect'. Get back to us in 3-5 years. 🤪😎
/r/Divorce_Men01/12/22 04:08 PM
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Yeah, i had same happen. Ex wife didn't ever want to do anything on her birthday at the tail end of marriage, but going on trips with 'friends' right after separatio...lol....yeah right.. Accept the fact she is not staying home knitting blankets. She going to go out and hook up like she's 21. The worst position is to be in 'limbo'. That is a position of weakness. Focus on yourself snd don't let her rent space in your head.
/r/Divorce_Men01/12/22 04:03 PM
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Hypergamy is part of it. Women are sex objects to men and men are success objects to women. When guys get married most (including me) stop being what they were before marriage. Hobbies, friends, independence all slowly die out. But our caveman brain keeps trucking along. Work, kids, wife.....repeat. A woman is ALWAYS evaluating the relationship. Guys need to realize that even average looking women get attention non stop. Attention is a currency to women, even when married. I am NOT saying all wo…
/r/Divorce_Men30/11/22 07:45 PM
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"No infidelity". I thought the same thing. Never thought it would happen to me or think she had the time. After our divorce started off amicable, i got an abormally thick cell bill with hundreds of text messages from her phone to 1 certain number going back to right before she said she was 'unhappy'. Maybe no infidelity on your part, but women don't divorce without a place to land. I've been divorced for a few years now and i feel people are either in an unhappy marriage, separated, or divorced.…
/r/Divorce_Men28/11/22 06:04 PM
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Your son will be back bro. Just keep trying with him but don't be pushy. I was the same at 16 and moved out of my dads house. We talk every day now and i tell him everything. Enjoy traveling!
/r/Divorce_Men15/11/22 11:51 AM
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Who said MGTOW? You sound like the angry one bro. If its not you then scroll tf on. Good luck.
/r/Divorce_Men13/11/22 03:33 PM
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Her starting arguments on purpose. Never had done this in our 17 years together. In hindsight, i know this was on purpose so she could justify her wanting divorce. It finally came out, along with me finding hundreds of texts to Mr. 'He's just a friend'.
/r/Divorce_Men13/11/22 11:59 AM
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"Outsourced"....haha. Love this one. It's so true though.
/r/Divorce_Men12/11/22 08:57 PM
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Yes. No marriage, no co-habitation and no long term relationships for me. Humans are not built for marriage IMO. The days of 'forever' marriages are over. Dating apps, social media, only fans, etc are not helping matters. Hypergamy is always at play with women. Women are sex objects to men and men are success objects to women. I'm 47 and there is no way i'm going to lose half again. Guys find an 'awesome' new woman after divorce, but isn't everyone awesome in the beginning? Damn brain chemicals.…
/r/Divorce_Men12/11/22 08:03 PM
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On the record, get a consultation with an attorney, they are usually free.. Off the record, she is smoking crack. If you bought the house while engaged and you put 'your' funds as a down payment it's half yours. Your name might not be on the promissory note, but is it on the deed (title)? If so, its definitely 50% yours. She can't sell it without your signature. A sale proceed check would be made out to both of you.
/r/Divorce_Men12/11/22 01:34 AM
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I had this same thought in the beginning. My ex wife wanted to STAY married but live separate until my kids turned 18 (like 10 more tears). . No FN way. Yeah, i get to be her emotional tampon while she's out hooking up with dudes. Even though divorce was not your idea or what you want, filing is the most empowering thing I have ever done. I felt in control of the situation and she never thought i would file, so oddly enough she respected me for doing it. Most people don't file as they have a sli…
/r/Divorce_Men11/11/22 09:34 PM
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If no fault, then her cheating does not matter in the end. Yes, you are not alone bro. My only regret is not filing for divorce sooner. She wanted separation and i had this odd 'hope', but now i know separation is just divorce practice. Most women have a plan (including a man). Women don't just leave (except something major). It is better on the other side. I watched football last night and going golfing today with no one to bitch about it. I've done a lot of research on women and marriage. Long…
/r/Divorce_Men11/11/22 02:17 PM
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Seems to be a common script. Are you in 'no fault' divorce state?
/r/Divorce_Men11/11/22 01:26 PM
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Exactly. She wants divorce let her do the heavy lifting including moving out.
/r/Divorce_Men11/11/22 01:09 PM
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F no. Stop counseling and go file. 'Just a friend' is womans speak for......i'm hooking up with him, but keeping you as plan B if it does not work out. I mean, if your courts honor infidelity you could gather evidence first, but most courts do not FN care. Why would you waste another minute on this woman? Rip the band aid off the inevitable.
/r/Divorce_Men11/11/22 01:05 PM
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Man, sorry you are going through this. You are going to hear some hard truths from me, and others on this post. It is meant to help, not kick you while you are down. I was in a similar position as you. First, she moved out to explore a romantic interest or to date. If I had a dollar for every 'my wife would never do that'' i'd be a millionaire. If you think she is out there knitting blankets and going to bed at 8 pm, you are kidding yourself. Women think and plan divorce months or even years bef…
/r/Divorce_Men11/11/22 11:58 AM
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Ahh...got it. Good luck to you man.
/r/Divorce_Men08/11/22 05:25 PM
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Your first mistake is 'giving' your ex wife the house with nothing on return. If you make good money, why not rent? Yes, i get the housing market sucks but sometimes your own place is priceless for you and kids. Date on your own timeline, but don't date to just 'fill the hole' left by divorce. Get everything in order first. It's no marriage, no long term relationships and no co-habitation for me. It's not for everyone but I'm not losing half ever again.
/r/Divorce_Men08/11/22 04:27 PM
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Your dreams are not gone, they will just be different. When a woman decides divorce, it's over. She has thought about this for months, or even years. Do not move out of the marrital home. Why is she not sleeping on the cot? Do not beg, plead, or make manipulative statements (e.g. 'you're ruining our dreams'). This is a business now, so keep emotions out of it. Get your personal life ready for this change. Most of us lose sight of hobbies, gym, friends, etc after marriage. Eat good, sleep, go to …
/r/Divorce_Men08/11/22 01:55 PM
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Sorry to break it to you, but their mom waa on the market before the divorce was even final. Don't compare yourself to her. You've got to slow your roll bro. Most relationships break after 12-18 months, that's reality.....you've been on one date. During the infatuation stage red flags are ignored, the person seems 'perfect', etc. There is no reason to stress about introductions....you're a long ways off from that. It's no long term relationships, no co habitation, and absolutely no marriage for …
/r/Divorce_Men04/11/22 01:00 AM
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100%, but don't forget the male co-worker who swoops in and listens about how horrible her ex husband is hoping to get laid.
/r/Divorce_Men03/11/22 01:37 PM
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You have no clue. t's not about hating women at all. This is a men's group, so go start a womans group since you have nothing better to do.
/r/Divorce_Men02/11/22 05:33 PM
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Go watch the marriage wheel by coach greg adams on youtube. It will give you the play by play on marriages today. Specifically he talks about wives need to 'test' the sexual market starting with 'girls nights out'. Its b.s., but educate yourself on the female nature. Don't blame yourself or hate women, but understand marriage is a no win situation for a man. Get the divorce ball rolling. It's over. Respect yourself because she never will after this. Good luck.
/r/Divorce_Men02/11/22 03:25 PM
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She got down on one knee and asked me to marry her. I should have stuck to my guns and said no.
/r/Divorce_Men31/10/22 03:19 PM
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Where is the 'F no' option?
/r/Divorce_Men31/10/22 01:02 PM
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I had this same realization after divorce. Never a thank you or appreciation for anything. I had my moment. I cooked a grand meal (filet mignon, etc). Everyone cleaned their plate/had seconds/took social media pix of it.. She sat there and complained about how it was too salty and did not taste good. Several people 'reached out' to me after as this was a common occurrence. Never getting married again, period.
/r/Divorce_Men31/10/22 12:59 PM
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Spam
/r/Divorce_Men28/10/22 08:35 PM
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That is a good reason to get divorced. Fun fact, kids cause additional stress / strain on marriage. If marriage isn't for you, just wait until you're dealing with the stress of kids.
/r/Divorce_Men28/10/22 04:06 PM
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Yes, marriage has 0 benefit. Learn your lesson and get off the marriage wheel. Most blame their ex wife only to get divorced a second time. No co-habitation, no long term relationships and NO marriage. Good luck.
/r/Divorce_Men27/10/22 01:09 PM
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Set the boundry and stick to it. 'I will no longer be able to bring food for the kids when they are with you, so please do not ask. If you do, i will ignore the text'. Send. Done.
/r/Divorce_Men26/10/22 03:53 PM
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Exactly bro. My ex tried to say her 'new' apartment was too small for the kids to stay there. Lol...right on. Banging dudes. She wanted to stay separated 10 more years until kids turned 18. Go find some beta male for that b.s. i filed ASAP.
/r/Divorce_Men26/10/22 03:41 PM
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So, you stay in the house with kids and she rents a different house? Man, separation is essentially divorce practice. She gets a home away from you and the kids to bang dudes? And you're splitting the cost? Trust me, that is her plan and an ideal set up for her. I told my wife to move out and i refinanced the house in my name. I went and filed as she wanted 'separation' but would not file. My advice is to rip the band aid and start the process. There is no turning back after a woman wants separa…
/r/Divorce_Men26/10/22 11:08 AM
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Um, no. If divorce does not happen now, it will later. Marriage is a trap. The unknown future is scary but so worth it. Remember all the reasons you filed. Good luck.
/r/Divorce_Men24/10/22 11:16 AM
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She gave out her number and kissed a dude (at minimum), isn't that enough? And this is the time you know about. I was in a similar position and i kept finding out more and more. F that. I have more respect for myself than that. Go watch 'the marriage wheel' by coach greg adams and learn a little about the female nature in relationships and marriage. You have your own path, but i get riled up when i see this over and over in marriages.
/r/Divorce_Men23/10/22 11:02 AM
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For me, if someone breaks trust...i'm done, period. Do you really think that is all that happened? There is what she told you (usually minimized)and what really happened. How are you going to trust her after disrespecting you? Get the ball rolling on the divorce. In the back of your mind you know you won't trust her again. And mental issues is no excuse for cheating. You deserve better.
/r/Divorce_Men22/10/22 07:30 PM
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She was seeing that dude way before then. Not trying to kick you while down, but you deserve better. Counseling rarely works IMO. It's for when problems first start, not when one person is out the door. What if.......you are better off without her? Once you learn more about the true nature of women, you'll realize it was bound to happen no matter what. Good luck bro.
/r/Divorce_Men16/10/22 08:00 PM
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Man...it's a script that is played out over and over. Sorry you are going thorough this. You may have not cheated but she is. 'My wife would never do that'. 'My wife does not have time to do that'. If you poke around, i guarantee you'll find something....but i would not eben waste the time,/energy. The one who cares less has the power. She lost respect for you and started looking for a new provider. Get this divorce done and don't be a doormat. Stick to your guns. It's a business now. Go watch '…
/r/Divorce_Men14/10/22 11:25 AM
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Yes, they can. Also, as a child of divorce myself.....it was not the divorce that caused issues it was my parent sh%%y choice in partners after divorce that got me. My step parents were hell on me.
/r/Divorce_Men13/10/22 01:02 PM
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F no. That's like being friends with your bully because he said he won't beat your ass again. Not worth it bro. Go learn more about the female nature. It's a hell no for me.
/r/Divorce_Men09/10/22 02:22 AM
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She claims she wants independence so she feels less guilty about what she is doing, hooking up with other dudes. It is over, 100%. She made this decision months (or years) ago and there is nothing that will change her mind. What you did yesterday has no benefit to her today. Go watch 'the marriage wheel' by coach greg adams to get a summary of what happened and don't get on the wheel again. And F her. Go to all your kids games for your kids. She does not run the show, especially now. Buckle up c…
/r/Divorce_Men09/10/22 02:06 AM
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Man, thank you for this post. I thought i was going crazy so just wanted to check. There is no support order right now, why? I immediatly filed after busting her for cheating (she had suggested separation before i found out.....common scenario). I moved it fast and i feel she was 'generous' b/c she wanted to be with her 'new man' who she is not even with now. I am in Texas, but not a Texans fan. 🤣
/r/Divorce_Men04/10/22 07:15 PM
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Yeah, i get that. It's no marriage, no long term relationships, and no co-habitation for me. My ex wife actually asked me to marry her. I should have stuck to my gut and said no haha
/r/Divorce_Men03/10/22 02:37 AM
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There is a 50% divorce rate and probably another 35% married, but unhappy. Women file for divorce at least 80% of the time. What benefit do you see from marriage? Because society says it's the thing to do? High earners are prime targets for marriage, but after a few years a new shiny object with even more money will come along and 1/2 of your money is gone. You'll also pay child support if you have kids and probably allimony. Best case, you will see your kids 50% of the tine. Most people igore a…
/r/Divorce_Men03/10/22 02:05 AM
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Let it lie. She will figure it out. I have 50% legal custody of two kids but oldest decided to live with me two years ago. She says she does not like her mom. They can work on their relationship at their own pace without my intervention. If she wants to visit her, cool. If she does not, i'm not going to force her.
/r/Divorce_Men03/10/22 12:19 AM
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You are asking a divorced mens group about their stance on marriage? Lol. Go browse the thousands of posts and you'll come to a pretty quick conclusion.
/r/Divorce_Men03/10/22 12:13 AM
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The better question is, what are you waiting on? Let me guess, she is also going out and staying out late or not coming home? Women decide divorce in their mind way before the man finds out. Sex starts to dwindle (with you) and her overall effort starts to decline. She is done without even saying it. Crazy thing is, she wants sex (just not with you) and will start testing the market. Go watch 'the marriage wheel' by coach greg adams on YouTube to see where you are at, and your ultimate fate. Goo…
/r/Divorce_Men30/09/22 12:50 AM
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I learned my lesson the first time. No co habitation, no long term commitment and absolutely no marriage. I have better chances playing the lotto. What is one benefit of marriage for a guy?
/r/Divorce_Men26/09/22 11:46 PM
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Sorry to hear this, but it is textbook. She has thought about this for months or even years. They often start fights, are cold, etc to make things bad so they can get the opportunity to bring up separation/divorce. There is likely a new man on the picture. Don't shoot the messenger or deny the possibility of her cheating. It's too easy these days with social media, etc. Women don't announce separation/divorce without having a place to land, period. Get the ball rolling. It's over. Don't be a d%$…
/r/Divorce_Men19/09/22 05:02 PM
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Bro, you have got to take charge here. Your wife wants to move across the contry and no longer wants kids with you. She is going on a 'work trip' There is nothing to think about here except which attorney to get. It's done, over. You don't want to believe it. And guess what, there is someone else. Go ahead and say it.... 'She would never do that to me' 'She is too busy for that' 'She just needs space' Blah, blah blah If i had a dollar for every 'my wife would never do that' i'd be richer than El…
/r/Divorce_Men10/09/22 03:17 AM
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I don"t believe in the no attorney route. I wrote up all the conditions, had her sign then hired 1 attorney to esentially represent us both (officially he represented me). He took the document and traslated it into legal tems. We both signed, i appeared before judge and that was it. Maybe $2500 or so. Best $$ i ever spent.
/r/Divorce_Men09/09/22 12:57 AM
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Just start preparing for battle. You can catch her red handed and the lies and denials won't stop. It will somehow be your fault. Get an attorney and start protecting assets. Do it quick while she is fanticising about being with her new man. She may make it quick and painless unless you confront her and become unglued. Im in no fault state and adultery evidence is not admissible. Learn your lesson about marriage and don't make the same mistake (marriage) again. Good luck.
/r/Divorce_Men08/09/22 08:32 PM
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This is less about you (or your prior relationship with her) and more about fishing for men. It's a way to signal that she is single without saying it. I had same thing happen......i got cheated, but it was 100% my fault. Lol. Women need validation whether its wearing spandex or bitching about their current/past love life.
/r/Divorce_Men04/09/22 12:35 PM
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Yes, consult with an attorney, stat. She likely has planned this for months or years before telling you and has a head start. Don't be shocked if she is in communication (or more) with another dude. If i had a dollar for every 'my wife would never do that', i'd be retired by now. Forget changing her mind, as mentioned above she has thought about this for a long time. She is not changing her mind. What 'good' things you did in the past do not matter to her today. Don't beg, plead, try and 'change…
/r/Divorce_Men03/09/22 06:59 PM
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I don't spend time prioritizing women or putting weight on what they think. Happiness on the other side is improving myself always in ALL ways. This includes finances, body and mind. Sure the hell not worried about focusing on 'things that make women happy'.
/r/Divorce_Men03/09/22 03:31 PM
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Every woman starts out as a 'fantastic' or a 'perfect' new woman, even your ex. Stop. Read your post. Don't you think you need to take charge of your life first? Why are you 'giving' your ex the house? Take charge of your life and don't be a doormat. Get in the gym, take care of mental health, and don't let a 'new woman' interfere and fill the hole left by your ex. Learm all you can about relationships and the true nature of women. You make 47 sound old, it's not. Get going bro....
/r/Divorce_Men31/08/22 01:05 PM
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I did not hate my wife either until i scrolled through our cell phone bill for the prior 3 months Def was not texting me. Lol. Good luck man.
/r/Divorce_Men26/08/22 08:42 PM
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When separation / divorce gets brought up it's over. A women made the decision long ago and no one is changing her mind. It usually gets brought up during a petty fight, or a fight they provoked on purpose. Just realize it is over. It's a business now. Stick to your guns and don't be a doormat. Talk to an attorney and get rolling. She can't just take kids away. My ex wife cam't move out of the kids school district. I finally filed after she kept bringing it up and she would not file. Good luck.
/r/Divorce_Men15/08/22 12:55 PM
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I was in a similar situation. 'He's just a friend', which is a bunch of b.s. Assume it got physical no matter what she says. She'll be 'sorry', but only sorry she got busted. My advise is to move fast. I feel my ex wife was more agreeable to the divorce terms because of her cheating', but ultimately most courts don't care about adultry. I filed and we used one lawyer so it would be cheaper (texas). She definitely wishes she had not been so agreeable now after her 'new' relationship failed. On a …
/r/Divorce_Men14/08/22 01:58 PM
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Great point, and coach greg adams is great. His 'The Marriage Wheel' video is fantastic. Spot on
/r/Divorce_Men12/08/22 03:46 PM
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Yes, long term relationships and marriges are a thing of the past IMO. Women are in the workforce in most cases and don't 'need' a man like they used to 50 years ago. But, hypergamy is still at play. Women are sex objects to men, and men are success objects to women. Men want access to unlimited women and sex. 100% of women want 20% of the top men. Women are continually evaluating their emotions and their relationship. What a man did last week means nothing in the present moment. A decent lookin…
/r/Divorce_Men12/08/22 03:31 PM
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Separations are for women to go out and test their sexual market value hooking up with dudes while they have plan B waiting on them at home should things not work out with plan A. Therapy is seldom, if ever, successful. Why? Most try it too late when one person is out the door. It's a waste of time and money, especially if she cheated. I was in your shoes and immediately filed for divorce and never looked back. I would never trust her again, so what's the point? Good luck man.
/r/Divorce_Men11/08/22 08:25 PM
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Assuming she has a new man prospect, so she wants to rush to tell the kids. I made my ex wife tell kids. It was her damn decision. Def sucks, but just be there for them. You got this....
/r/Divorce_Men09/08/22 11:12 PM
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When divorce or separation is brought up by a woman, it's over. She has thought about this for months or even years before you found out. It starts with 'girls nights out'. It's usually during an argument that they seize the opportunity to bring up divorce. 'I'm not happy'......blah, blah blah. She likely has a love interest waiting on the wings. Except for extreme circumstances, they have planned this and have a place to land. And be ready to get blamed for everything to deflect her shortcoming…
/r/Divorce_Men08/08/22 09:18 PM
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Get an attorney asap and go file. There is no hope once separation happens IMO.. She is likely cheating on her vacation. Get your power back and take control of this situation. Don't wait on her. All the things you did in the past do not matter to women. It gets better. Hang in there the best you can. Eat, sleep, gym and be the best dad you can.
/r/Divorce_Men06/08/22 09:17 PM
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It's a very common scenario unfortunately. There is usually a person of interest before they announce separation/divorce. Many women are constantly evaluating the relationship and looking for a 'better deal'. It's crazy how people can't just say 'i'm not happy'....nope, they have to go out hook up with dudes first. When successful then they feel confident in wanting a separation/ divorce as they have a place to land. Watching 'the marriage wheel' by coach greg adams on youtube really sums it up …
/r/Divorce_Men06/08/22 04:01 PM
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Bro...she is going on 'girls nights' to see what is out theee and get attention for ither suitors. Go watch 'the marriage wheel' by coach greg adams on youtube. He talks about this.
/r/Divorce_Men04/08/22 01:06 PM
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Relationships/marriages are temporary now days. As they say 'she is not yours, it was only your time with her'. She is texting naked pictures to another dude (and probably went further)? You've got to set some boundries for yourself. You will never trust this woman again. It's tine to start your new chapter. Watch 'the marriage wheel' by coach greg adams on youtube. Pretty eye opening and just part of the reason i will never get married again. Good luck man.
/r/Divorce_Men01/08/22 09:42 PM
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Proceed with divorce. Fight or not, she likely thought about separation long before that. She wanted that single life. Give her what she initially wanted, not some timeline to change her mind. You can't let kids be your sole reason to stay together. She'll pull this stunt again.
/r/Divorce_Men27/07/22 09:32 PM
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Why not have the attorney put it in the divorce decree if you both agree on it?
/r/Divorce_Men26/07/22 12:32 AM
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If you can't handle opininions of others that are honest and direct, reddit is not for you. By the way, it's 'cough'
/r/Divorce_Men22/07/22 07:17 PM
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Then leave the sub that is for MEN. There are plenty of other subs where men are bashed non stop. Can we have anyhing that is ours?? Bye!
/r/Divorce_Men22/07/22 06:44 PM
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Ah, hell no. Get an attorney and go file. Don't leave the home (have her leave) She is sorry she finally got caught. She wants to bang him whike you are her emotional tampon and financial support. Women continually look for a better deal. Take action bro. Get ready to get blamed for her cheating. This whole thing will be 100% your fault which is total b.s.
/r/Divorce_Men21/07/22 09:04 PM
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It happened suddenly for you, not for her. This has been planned for months, if not years. Not to kick you while you are down, but she likely has a new love interest in mind or already started the process. Women usually have a place to land before announcing divorce. The worse thing you can do is have any hope for the marriage to continue, it's over. You are plan D in case plan A, B, and C don't work out. Be like me and go file for divorce and get the ball rolling. Don't be a doormat or beg/plea…
/r/Divorce_Men20/07/22 03:20 PM
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The courts are like the IRS, they find ways to prevent people from 'scamming' the system. It won't matter much.
/r/Divorce_Men18/07/22 04:16 PM
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Damn bro. Try not to be so hard on yourself. You are putting her up on a pedestal, so to speak. Why is it your responsibility to do all these things AND work? My ex wife pulled this b.s at the tail end of the relationship. Picking fights on purpose on anything and everything. Why? Because she did not have the balls to tell me she wanted to separate. Also she was talking (likely hooking up) with men from work (as many married women do in the long run). I went and filed immediately. Don't put up w…
/r/Divorce_Men17/07/22 08:05 PM
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I can identify with this quandry. There are zero poitive benefits of marriage or even long term relationships for me. I am not built for it. All relationships start out great, but after those 'in love' chemicals wear off, things change. I am not mad or bitter at women, but I understand their nature (not all act on it). Women are sexual objects to men and men are success objects to women. My freedom means too much to me. .
/r/Divorce_Men17/07/22 12:09 PM
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Agree overall. No need to be an A-hole, but be direct, confident, and ask for what you want. So many dudes put women on a damn pedestal it gives them fake confidence and ruins it for other men. I will say, the best looking women in my life thought I was an A-hole in the beginning. Def fell into a nice guy at tail end of marriage though, which is not really me. I now have the same theory as you, but will never get married again.
/r/Divorce_Men16/07/22 04:30 PM
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This is very common, but realize this was planned and she was talking/hooking up with him way before. Most women don't just leave because they are not happy. They have someone lined up who gives them the 'courage' to ask for divorce / separation. It's a co-worker in many cases. Unless mandatory in your state, separation is just divorce practice. Move on with your new life.
/r/Divorce_Men16/07/22 04:22 PM
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Just because you divorce does not mean you need counseling. 99% of relationships / marriages end. It happens. Don't ruin your life by getting married again, especially at your age. The next divorce might not be so kind to you.
/r/Divorce_Men13/07/22 11:00 PM
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They don't move on faster, they just start the relationship with the other dude while still married to you.
/r/Divorce_Men13/07/22 11:57 AM
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Haha. Got it. That is a good thing bro. If that happened would def tell her to F off.
/r/Divorce_Men10/07/22 12:19 PM
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No, reconciliation is a pipe dream. It's only in the movies. Go watch 'The marriage wheel' on youtube by coach greg adams and start undeestanding the true nature of the female brain. Good luck.
/r/Divorce_Men10/07/22 12:01 PM
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No, don't. You are looking at the past through rose colored glasses. Seldom, if ever, do reconciliations work long term. Typically, when a women is done, she has moved on. You are plan D in case her plan A, B, C don't work out. Don't disrespect yourself by chasing after someone who discarded you like trash. Hell no.
/r/Divorce_Men09/07/22 07:07 PM
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Great post
/r/Divorce_Men09/07/22 12:29 PM
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When the benefits of marriage outweigh the risks, which is never. Marriage is a dated concept and goes against the wiring in our brain. But some never learn their lesson and marry a 2nd/3rd/4th time and complain that they are broke. F that.
/r/Divorce_Men09/07/22 12:24 PM
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Reconciliation is a pipe dream. The marriage is over and the sooner you realize this, the better. She has thought and planned this divorce for months or years before you found out. Whem a woman is done, she is DONE. She likely has a romantic interest in mind as women typically have a potential spot to land. All the cooking/cleaning/kid duties you did in the past are old news. You are only as good as what you did yesterday. The best thing you can do is move on. I'm not saying it's easy but don't …
/r/Divorce_Men06/07/22 06:36 PM
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Sweet! But did you find your FN car keys? 🤣
/r/Divorce_Men06/07/22 05:42 PM
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Keep your 'sent' text message and print it out (or email hee). If you are blocked i doubt you can even leave a voice mail. I can never hear butt dial messages so i would not sweat it much. Let your attorney know if you had one.
/r/Divorce_Men06/07/22 05:30 PM
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Coach Greg Adams / Free Agent Lifestyle
/r/Divorce_Men06/07/22 05:25 PM
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I would text message immediately to her phone as a document trail. 'Hey, i butt dialed you while freaking out over my lost keys. It was unintentional and nothing on the VM was meant for you. Please delete'. There....done.
/r/Divorce_Men06/07/22 05:21 PM
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I'm with you on the kid part, but bro....drop the idea of spousal support for a $20k difference.
/r/Divorce_Men06/07/22 02:43 AM
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Ugh, don't send this. There is no need for this. Just file and take the necessary legal action steps with a divorce attorney.
/r/Divorce_Men02/07/22 08:14 PM
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Yep! I watched it after divorce also. Eye opening for sure bro
/r/Divorce_Men01/07/22 12:02 AM
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What answer are you expecting on a divorce sub? 🤔
/r/Divorce_Men30/06/22 12:43 PM
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Her bringing up divorce when she's pissed is manipulation. Fn b.s. Hang in there bro. My ex wife was talking trash about me to her co-workers, but it was my faulf for getting into her business. F that. I went and filed after she kept bringing it up.
/r/Divorce_Men29/06/22 03:11 PM
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What you think is the reason 'divorce' was brought up is seldom the real reason. I noticed my ex wife picking fights over little things and when i argued back....divorce finally got brought up. It came out she was thinking about divorce for months. But to answer the question, she should have communicated her displeasure at the concert, not berate you later. But again.....it's common for a woman to get into arguments on purpose so you look like the bad guy and it's a perfect opportunity to bring …
/r/Divorce_Men29/06/22 03:05 PM
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Don't go on any trips with her. She is done with the marriage and has likely thought about this for months years before you found out. This is all planned and usually (like you mention in the post) there is someone she is interested in or has already started texting/seeing. .Women don't 'jump' without a place to land. It sucks, but this is your life now. There are zero benefits to keeping this from the kids, family, etc. Rip the band aid and start the divorce process. The worst thing you can do …
/r/Divorce_Men28/06/22 09:19 PM
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Lol, yep. Look up 'Texas common law marriage'. That is why i'm 1.) No long term commitments 2.) No co-habitation and 3.) No marriage. I'm not going to risk my finanial future at this stage of my life. Only a handful of states honor common law marriage.
/r/Divorce_Men26/06/22 03:54 PM
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Yes, it's possible. Just be careful. Some states like mine honor common law marriage, so the courts can view you as married if you have live in girlfriend, even though you are not officially married.
/r/Divorce_Men26/06/22 03:38 PM
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Haha. The positive is that I learned my damn lesson about marriage. Never again. Single life is a better fit for me. Women constantly evaluate their relationships, many (not all) are looking for a better deal.
/r/Divorce_Men25/06/22 10:39 PM
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Yep, agree 100%. The woman is usually done and mourned the death of the marriage long before the man even finds out. She usually has a new love interest in mind, or has already acted on it. The guy panics and tries to 'save' the marriage by making changes, begging, pleading, manipulating. Etc. I waa an idiot thinking we could work things out, but i finally decided enough was enough and i went and filed (she would not file). Enjoy your freedom man.
/r/Divorce_Men25/06/22 10:31 PM
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Long term? Yes, imo. Humans are not built for marriage. If you get married make sure she is the 5%. Don't get comfortable. Keep improving yourself and do a prenup. Prenups are NOT guaranteed! Ask yourself, what is the benefit of marriage? The negatives far outweighs the positives.
/r/Divorce_Men25/06/22 03:07 PM
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The fairytale of marriage is not real life. 50% divorce, another 30% married but not happy, 10% planning divorce, 5% content with marriage, 5% happily married. These are my stats. It was amazing how many 'happy' couples asked me divorce questions or tell me they are not happy after i got divorced. Movies, TV, books, and social media are a lie. What is the benefit of marriage? Keep in mind that about 75-80% of divorces are filed by women. Why do you think that is? Read up on the true nature of wo…
/r/Divorce_Men25/06/22 12:45 PM
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Hell no. You are not the only one she trying to hook up with. Set some damn boundries and move on. She wants divorce and moved out, then give her what she wants. You are just giving her validation.
/r/Divorce_Men14/06/22 11:35 AM
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As a person who had a alcoholic mother, please leave now. You are not doing your kids ANY favors by staying. In fact, you are doing them more harm than good. You are showing your kids to 'hang in there no matter what' which is a horrible message. File for divorce and go for custody. I wish my dad had left my mom a lot sooner. People who can't stop drinking don't change without losing things. I should know, i started drinking like a fish after divorce but now have full custody. Good luck.
/r/Divorce_Men13/06/22 03:29 PM
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I am in my ex wife's city as we moved here so she could finish school. All her family is here, so my good friends//family are not here. I'm likely here until the kids are out of school. I am a person who does not need many friends, but a break from kids is a must. I have made friends at the gym, parents at my kids school, etc. After divorce, i went out by myself to places and met quite a few people. There are several apps and social media groups you can join. What do you like to do? I am a golfe…
/r/Divorce_Men12/06/22 11:49 AM
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Sorry, but F reconciliation. Someone violated your trust, left you, and you want to work it out? I know it's a fresh wound, but please have some respect for yourself. Start learning about women and the true nature of relationships. Watch 'The marriage wheel' by coach Greg Adams on youtube. As he says, 'she was not yours, it was only your turn'. I know this sucks, but get sleep, go to the gym, eat right and get back into hobbies/passions. You will get through this b.s. but don't put her on a pede…
/r/Divorce_Men09/06/22 08:05 PM
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Sorry you are going through this. She is generous because she likely has someone waiting in the wings. It sucks to hear, but people don't just want divorce for no reason. There is planning involved and she has likely contemplated divorce for months or years before you found out. It takes 2 to marry, but one to divorce. Now, give up the hope of reconciliation. That ship has sailed. If you try and pursue her, get her to change her mind, beg, plead she will run faster. Get ready for your new life. …
/r/Divorce_Men05/06/22 10:16 PM
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I would sell now. You said you've been married for 3, but make sure you've resided in the house for 3 or you will get taxed on any profit. Interest rates, homeowners insurance (rebuild cost) and property taxes are all rising (in most counties). Rates will likely stay high through 2023. Home values will go down due to lower demand. Summer is optimal time to sell. I'd sell and put cash in high yield savings (stocks risky right now, but you could buy low). The issue is getting a new place....might …
/r/Divorce_Men05/06/22 12:53 PM
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Trying to salvage the marriage is an absolute waste of time. Glad that is out of your system. Expect to find another dude she has been talking to or meeting up with. Get an attorney ASAP and fill him in on the money movement. You'll likely have child support and alimony but i'm not sure about laws in your state. It's a business deal now. Try and keep emotion out of it as that leads to a high conflict divorce, which attorneys get rich on. Reach out to old friends, hit the gym, get sleep, resurrec…
/r/Divorce_Men05/06/22 01:49 AM
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Plenty of dating subs to post this stuff to. Not being a d%#$, but hope this sub does not turn into post divorce dating adventures. 🤣
/r/Divorce_Men04/06/22 02:12 PM
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If you stay in a situation that you don't want to be in, you will be more stressed, frustrated and the animosity toward your wife will grow. This will impact your son. You can't stay in a marriage 'for the kids'. If you are not happy it will come out in all kinds of ways. I'm also a child of divorce. I was maybe 4 when my parents split. It did not impact me at the time. But it was their sh%$y choices in partners after their divorce that negatively impacted me. Step parents, step sisters and brot…
/r/Divorce_Men31/05/22 04:19 PM
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F marriage. I enjoy my freedom. There is no ideal/perfect woman. It may seem like it during the honeymoon phase like we all felt the 1st time around. What are the benifits to a man to get married, especially a 2nd time? I'm not a hater but a realist. You have better odds in Vegas than a 2nd marriage. Go watch 'the marriage wheel' by coach greg adams on youtube. No marriage, no co-habitation, no long term relationships.
/r/Divorce_Men29/05/22 07:57 PM
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In woman talk, this means she wants to be single and hook up with other dudes while you remain her emotional/financial support. F%## that. Don't be a doormat. It's over. Start preparing for divorce.
/r/Divorce_Men29/05/22 01:17 AM
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Do not leave your house. Talk to an attorney asap about options.
/r/Divorce_Men26/05/22 08:10 PM
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Ohhh...okay. Thanks for the context. I don't see it as a big deal then. And yes, rumors can / will happen depending on the work environment.
/r/Divorce_Men24/05/22 07:48 PM
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What advice are you seeking that you can't get somewhere else? Or is this some sort of way for you to advertise you will be single? Either way, it's a no for me. Not in this day and age. I keep my personal items out of work, period. I told my female boss, but only because i got 50/50 custody that impacted my schedule. I've seen people fired for bringing personal things to work, including office romance which rarely ends well.
/r/Divorce_Men24/05/22 07:19 PM
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Someone has a college paper due. 😂😂
/r/Divorce_Men24/05/22 02:49 PM
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You got this bro.
/r/Divorce_Men18/05/22 09:30 PM
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You have a right to be angry, but continually talking trash (even deserved) around kids can come back to bite you. At some point, kids may get tired of it and favor their mother. Hate/anger means you still care. I was in that position for a long time, but i finally got to a point of indifference. That is when i knew i did not give a f%$% about her or what she did. Most women do not feel bad about cheating. They will tell themselves every lie possible to justify it. Start learning about the true …
/r/Divorce_Men18/05/22 05:54 PM
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Separation (even legal) is a waste of time IMO. I filed for a divorce my ex wanted.......when it's over, there is typically ZERO chance for repair. Get your power back. Go file and start a pathway to become the best man you can be. Level up. Learn your lesson about marriage and the crapshoot that it really is, especially the 2nd time around. Good luck
/r/Divorce_Men18/05/22 05:00 PM
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Get a paternity test. If i had a penny for every 'my wife would never do that' on this site, i'd be a rich MF. As a child of divorce, i was fine with my parents decision. It was their sh$$$y choice in subsequent partners (and half/step siblings) that negatively impacted me. Good luck bro.
/r/Divorce_Men12/05/22 12:30 PM
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Yep. It makes casual dating a bit tougher (since i'm upfront about my view), but that is better than the alternative of a 2nd divorce. I'm too old (46) to get my assests cut in half again. My dad is on 4th marriage and still working past 65 years old. No thanks.
/r/Divorce_Men11/05/22 02:52 PM
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These 'get aways' are a ploy to put themselves out there to 'fish' for men. Go file. You'll slowly find out that when a woman decides divorce, it is over. The mouring of the marriage was done long ago on her end.
/r/Divorce_Men10/05/22 03:50 PM
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Abolish marriage. Nothing will make me get married again. No co-habitation, no long term relationships, no marriage. Not sure why people need to learn the lesson twice after getting burned the first time. It's not the ex wife that was the problem, it's the feminist, attention seeking behavior by most females in todays society. Women are continually scouting for a better deal. Some act on it, others don't. Why do you think the divorce initiation is 70-80% women? I see dudes get into a new relatio…
/r/Divorce_Men10/05/22 03:27 PM
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Yep, same happened to me. Took the day off but has them for 1 hour. Haha.
/r/Divorce_Men08/05/22 04:48 PM
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A straight forward post. You are 100% FN right
/r/Divorce_Men08/05/22 03:25 PM
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Great response, thanks bro!
/r/Divorce_Men08/05/22 03:23 PM
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Exactly. Great point bro
/r/Divorce_Men08/05/22 02:56 PM
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Her dating is not sudden. It may be to you, but she has been out there for some time. It's pretty sh%%% to do it in front of your face though. I know you know now that it's over, but in today's world there is no saving a marriage. Get her out...pronto. How much is your peace worth? Go watch 'the marriage wheel' by coach greg adams. You will learn a lot about the true nature of 'marriage' Good luck man
/r/Divorce_Men07/05/22 01:47 PM
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Don't forget to add Coach Greg Adams to your Playlist! Especially 'the marriage wheel' video. And many try and self diagnose their stbxw....bpd, narcissistic, mid life crisis (etc.) but at the end of the day....does it really matter? Not your problem any longer. Take care bro
/r/Divorce_Men28/04/22 11:05 PM
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Holy sh%$. Wow. Thats crazy. Fine, you win. 😂
/r/Divorce_Men28/04/22 05:33 PM
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When i found hundreds of text messages on our cell phone bill, it went from amicable to full throttle quick. I probably got a far better settlement after i found out about her 'he's just a friend' hahaha. The thing is, you've got to try and treat it like a business deal. When emotions get involved, attorneys get rich. You can still be agressive. She brought up.divorce, but i went and filed and came up with the divorce terms. Get it done quick while she is thinking about how her and her 'friend' …
/r/Divorce_Men27/04/22 05:06 PM
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I remember when i thought I met an amazing woman, now i'm here in this sub. Lol. Never again. Agree with all the other things though! Keep going.
/r/Divorce_Men26/04/22 08:47 PM
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Bro, it completely sucks in the beginning. Take a step back and a take deep breath. Most of us went through some of this. These 'Chores' have to get done and you will find time. Reconcilliatiom always seems like a good idea, but this is not the damn movies. Reconciliation seldom ever works out. The person you married is not the same person now. They have moved on and don't care one bit about you. It's a truth i had to face as well. It's okay to let anger/frustration out, but it's not going to ch…
/r/Divorce_Men25/04/22 04:01 PM
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My advice is to give up the idea of reconciliation because it likely won't happen. Just giving you a dose of reality. When a woman is done, she is DONE. She has already grieved the end of the marriage long ago, you are just getting started. When a man gets the 'divorce' news they are on a mission to change to get her to change her mind (which is really manipulation). Why? Most men get a task and keep working on it until it is solved. Suggesting marriage counseling, getting individual counseling,…
/r/Divorce_Men18/04/22 11:51 AM
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Bro, you know the answer already. Every woman is beautiful, smart, loving, 'my dream girl' in the beginning. Those damn brain 'in love' chemicals are masking this situation. 2nd marriage success rates suck (30% at BEST), especially when kids from previous marriages are involved. The commute, her kid, her taking a lower paying job, is going to stress you the f%$$ out. Don't sacrifice your goals/dreams for someone else. Sounds like it is one sided. Would she really take less pay if you made $40,00…
/r/Divorce_Men13/04/22 08:34 PM
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'The Marriage Wheel' video is fantastic.
/r/Divorce_Men13/04/22 04:03 PM
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I heard this somewhere "trust, but verify". Trust takes a long time. I lost trust in people from my childhood, let alone the divorce. At 46, i definitely won't marry again. No way am i starting over again. The red pill guys have it right in my opinion. Don't get mad at women, just understand the female nature (and not all act on it). It's not coincidence that 70% - 80% of divorces are initiated by women who have been 'unhappy for months/years'. With 2nd marriage failure at 67-70% (and many more …
/r/Divorce_Men11/04/22 03:50 PM
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This advice is great. The only good thing about my divorce is she gave up a lot because if her affair.
/r/Divorce_Men09/04/22 12:48 PM
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Why does this same story keep getting posted on divorce subs then deleted? Who cares? You both cheated.
/r/Divorce_Men08/04/22 07:08 PM
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'The marriage wheel' by Coach Greg Adams was eye opening! Truth!!
/r/Divorce_Men07/04/22 03:56 PM
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Men use logic / reasoning and women use emotion to drive things. What you did yesterday or 10 years ago means nothing any longer. Was it fake? Probably not, but it's no longer her feeling. And don't take blame 100%. This is a common tactic used by her to justify her own actions of divorce. Own your part of it and move on.
/r/Divorce_Men05/04/22 03:31 PM
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Fn great post. You sound like coach greg adams on yourube. Total realty.
/r/Divorce_Men03/04/22 12:18 PM
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Start recording and documenting everything.
/r/Divorce_Men27/03/22 04:10 PM
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Great post. IMO the divorce rate is 50%, but another 25% (at least) are not happy or just content with the marriage. No source, just talking with married friends who seemingly have an 'awesome' marriage (on social media). I was amazed how many of my married friends reached out to me with advice after i divorced.
/r/Divorce_Men26/03/22 02:10 PM
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Seems single people need more tax benefits than married people, but tax laws won't change.
/r/Divorce_Men23/03/22 10:53 PM
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I get your point for sure. I remember reading about it at some point. I don't think my parents divorce impacted me much.... it was their subsequent partner choices that did (step parents). Yeah, maybe co-parenting is a myth. It's as rare as a unicorn!
/r/Divorce_Men23/03/22 08:41 PM
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Agree on the taking each other for granted! Lol
/r/Divorce_Men23/03/22 08:36 PM
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Meh...maybe. Just because people are married doesn't mean it's a 'happy home'. So many unhappy married people. Don't get me wrong there are probably great marriages with healthy kids but i think there are happy kids with divorced parents who co-parent in a healthy manner.
/r/Divorce_Men23/03/22 08:33 PM
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F no. Tell me one positive of marriage vs. a non marriage relationship. And don't say taxes....the advantages are minimal in most cases. Not losing half again, especially at my age.
/r/Divorce_Men23/03/22 05:52 PM
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That's like not leaving your house because you think you'll die in a car crash. You can't think of what if's. Deal with the current situation. The future will take care of itself. You won't be ready for anyone anytime soon. Maybe you'll be like me and realize humans are not built for a marriage contract. I'm good single and dating.
/r/Divorce_Men17/03/22 02:41 PM
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She should count her lucky stars that's the only people you told. Haha
/r/Divorce_Men17/03/22 12:05 PM
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It sucks for sure man. It's the worst. Please don't blame yourself. Yes, stand up for yourself. You don't deserve to be treated like that. My comment is stong because I don't like seemingly good people getting treated like trash. You are human. Good luck.
/r/Divorce_Men26/02/22 03:38 PM
2

Are you serious? Wow. It seems pretty relevant.
/r/Divorce_Men26/02/22 03:10 AM
2

When we separated. People believe lies that a separation is to just have time apart, etc. They are going to take time, then magically come back together and live happily ever after. B.S. It's really so both can get used to divorced life. The one who initiated divorce is way ahead of the grieving curve and ready to date immediately. Not many stats out there, but divorce is almost a certainty after separation IMO.
/r/Divorce_Men25/02/22 10:46 PM
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Very well explained, thank you.
/r/Divorce_Men25/02/22 07:54 PM
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I subscribed to the channel. Thanks again
/r/Divorce_Men25/02/22 07:51 PM
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Man, will check it out. Thank you!
/r/Divorce_Men25/02/22 04:53 PM
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Most who suggest this sort of thing are not over their ex and secretely hope it will help 'get them back'. If that is not you, fine. But kids already have a deep down hope their oarents will get back together and this will be confusing to them. And what happens when you or she is dating someone else? It can cause issues, that's just reality. Good luck man.
/r/Divorce_Men25/02/22 11:41 AM
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Great comment. 100% agree. Watched a Ted Talk on youtube called 'Cancel Marriage' by Merav Michaeli.....interesting listen and she is a woman.
/r/Divorce_Men23/02/22 07:25 PM
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Step 1 - block her social media for your own peace. Step 2 - realize social media is a lie. You'll see 20% of peoples 'awesome' life. Step 3 - Cheaters who get into another relationship because the found 'the one' are likely to cheat again after the 'in love' stage wears off. I know you know this, but she is someone else's problem now.
/r/Divorce_Men23/02/22 04:17 PM
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Lol, yeah. I'm 46 and don't wanr more kids, so that is about my range. Any woman in their 30's wants kids / huge wedding / etc.
/r/Divorce_Men23/02/22 04:03 PM
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If you are over 45, you are the cougar! 🤣
/r/Divorce_Men23/02/22 01:26 PM
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You've posted on the other divorce sub months ago about this same thing.. Are you going to take advice if given here? I'm not saying it is easy, but there is no right time to do this. If you can't communicate, your future relationships are doomed. How would you feel if roles were reversed? Your wife is unhappy, but never tells you. I'd be pissed. It's happened to many dudes on this sub. You are wasting your and her time. Furthermore, your indecision is impacting your kids as unhappiness comes ou…
/r/Divorce_Men22/02/22 02:55 PM
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I pay most of the kid expenses and invoice her, because I handled all the money during marriage. Are you saying she is buying unnecessary things? I pad $100 per kid alone in school supplies, not including clothes, backpack, etc. . Glasses were $375 with insurance. Just trying to get more detail.
/r/Divorce_Men14/02/22 04:23 PM
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100% agree. I hid the fact that i was going through separation/divorce. Guess i was embarrassed? Not sure. But, i had tons of people ask me 'divorce' questions when they found out. I had people who i thought were 100% happy tell me about all the problems they were having. Social media is a lie....and shows 20% of people's 'awesome' life.
/r/Divorce_Men12/01/22 05:16 PM
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Yes!! Great point.
/r/Divorce_Men12/01/22 02:23 PM
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It's my opinion that 50% are divorced, 40% married but unhappty, 5% married but content, and 5% married but happty. Go check out the martiage sub! People need to face the fact that every relationship gets to an 'out of love" stage. Long term marriages happen because both are independent from each other. Yes, they go to functions together. I also believe that women now earn their own money and don't feel forced to stay in a marriage. I read something that currently 75% - 90% of divorces are imiti…
/r/Divorce_Men12/01/22 01:11 PM
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Oh, i see. Cant you put him in 'your' school mon-thursday and she can do whatever on friday? You have him most of schhol week and should be able to make the decision.
/r/Divorce_Men15/12/21 04:16 PM
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I put in the divorce degree that our kids will remain in 123 school district unless mutually agreed otherwise. Is it too late for that? Not sure where you are at in the process.
/r/Divorce_Men15/12/21 03:25 PM
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She needs to show them her bank statements with the CS money being deposited. If you tranfering to her acvount make sure you put a 'child support' memo on the transfer.
/r/Divorce_Men07/12/21 04:59 PM
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Sorry you are going through this, but it is an all to common theme. When they say I love you but.....always listen to the words after "but" because that is the real reason. Typically people have someone lingering befoe they announce. Oddly enough, these peoe claim to be awesome communicators and turn everything back on you. Just here to say, you are not alone and you have every right to be angry. Hang in there, it sucks but gets better after time. Good luck man
/r/Divorce_Men04/12/21 08:36 PM
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What is exposing him going to do? Get him fired? Look, i get that you are pissed, but your wife takes a lot of accountabilty also. She is a grown ass adult and protected this guy ( 'he's just a friend'). Yes, things were probably happening during your marriage. And yes, he sounds like a POS. But, what was SHE telling him the whole time (e.g im leaving my husband soon?)? Because you have kids.......The biggest boss move you can make is move on because she did not deserve you in the first place. L…
/r/Divorce_Men03/12/21 12:18 AM
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Don't speak with her unless its about the kids. If you are separated and she is offered but refused kid time then document it. Where are you at in the divorce process? Do you have a lawyer? I sure hope so.
/r/Divorce_Men23/11/21 05:12 PM
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My ex wanted to remain married until kids turned 18 (12 more years) and stay in the same house together. Crazy. I went and filed and she (finally) moved out. Set your FN boundaries and don't reply when those are crossed.
/r/Divorce_Men21/11/21 02:13 PM
2

Think of the good times (hoping there were some), but flip the page to your new chapter. It's blank so start creating new chapters to finish the book.
/r/Divorce_Men16/11/21 09:55 PM
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Narcissism is the most over-used term on some of these subs. People re-write history and change stories to make themsrelves feel better about their decision - end of story. They are just a-holes! Why does it have to be some mental illness that can only be diagnosed by a professional? Some people 'remember' their version of events and forget anything good you did. Very common in divorce. Move on and let her believe her own version of the story.
/r/Divorce_Men28/10/21 11:57 AM
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Bro, it suck to hear, but this was all planned out months or even years before you found out. Most women have someone out there lingering (e.g. at work, etc.) before separation occurs. The man finds out about separation and is in complete shock, but the woman mourned the death of the marriage way before this time. People always post 'no infidelity'.....yeah maybe on the guy's side. Get pissed. Scream into a pillow, feel the feeling. This is your day one to start becoming the new you. Not to comp…
/r/Divorce_Men23/10/21 01:28 PM
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Admit it and she will go underground. You will also get everything blamed on you, regardless if you are at fault or not.
/r/Divorce_Men07/10/21 12:28 PM
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Move on Bro. There are billions of women out there, and many will do FWB. Someone essentially discards you and you still sleep with her? F%$$ that. Read 'No More Mr. Nice Guy' by Dr. Glover. Get your respect back and get back out there. You got this man.
/r/Divorce_Men30/09/21 07:06 PM
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I see your comment about her making 20k more, but you could still potenially qualify if there is a huge amout of equity. And notorizing a separation agreement is just saying the signature is legit. A notary is not responsible for the legal content. Have a lawyer look it over!!
/r/Divorce_Men11/09/21 07:54 PM
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Yes, that makes sense. I would really recommend having a lawyer look at that separation agreement to make sure your interests are protected. If a refinance is done a full appraisal will have to be done.. I find redfin is the most accurate, just to give you an idea. She still has to qualify for the new mortgage amount which is existing balance + cash out to you. Why don't you refinance and stay in the house? If she wants out, have her leave and figure it out. Stick up for yourself and do not be a…
/r/Divorce_Men11/09/21 07:50 PM
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Most attorneys have free consultations. Why are you moving out when she wants the eventual divorce? F that. A separation in most cases is a longer path to dovorce, but you might be in state that has mandatory seoaration period, is that correct? Can you clarify the equity statement (100% of what is owed)? 100% equity would be if you don't have a mortgage. As far as a refinance, good luck (to her) trying to get a refinance based on a separation agreement off the internet. Can she afford it based o…
/r/Divorce_Men11/09/21 07:33 PM
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99% of separations are to let the other person down easy. The person who instigated the separation typically has mourned the death of the marriage months, if not years ago. Separation is just a longer route to divorce IMO. In many cases there is some sort of love interest (or she has at least thought about someone snd wants to explore further). Tough to hear, but get your power back and go file. Separation is too confusing to all, including your kids.
/r/Divorce_Men28/08/21 05:38 PM
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