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Thank you for the well thought out reply my friend, I greatly enjoy engaging in the intelligent discussion here. It's literally one of the only places left on the internet where I've been able to find this sort of exchange without running into ideology or muh soggy knees or some other useless nonsense that isn't productive to the conversation. I especially liked this part, and how you put it: This is what people with half a brain talk about when then talk about when they talk about karma. Not so…
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 12:53 AM
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There's a whole lot more true about your statement than what people may believe, and it's a lot more to do with the nature of what lies at the core of this new iteration of marxism/post-modernism, and the whole clusterfuck of psychology behind it, than just some "dur hurr trad con fuckery!" If you really dive into what's going on, and has been going on since the 60's, it's a systematic psychological shift in society that has essentially been at the hands of an infectious ideology. That's the pro…
/r/MGTOW26/07/19 09:26 AM
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I'm sorry you lost your friend. I'm even more sorry that the shit mentality that society taught him essentially lead to his death. That's the problem for so many men... they're taught from basically ground zero that the only way they have any worth is if they secure a woman and keep a woman, and then have a bunch of children, and then work themselves into the grave while barely staving off a ton of debt their entire lives. And seriously, what kind of life is that? Let's say you're successful in …
/r/MGTOW26/07/19 08:58 AM
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I've seen that bullshit first hand. Being given quals, and more importantly, not being stripped of quals after incompetence is proven, because everyone is too afraid of the accusations that may occur. To the point that if someone even brings safety concerns to leadership, they risk being brought to mast for creating conflict. Literally, you can have an incompetent, lazy fool who is so damned ignorant of what is actually going on, because everyone will praise them for being "so heroic" and "coura…
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 01:37 AM
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Yea, that whole talking in front of you as if you're not there bullshit would not fly with me. I don't care who she is, and I really don't even care if I deserved it or not. I'm an adult, you're an adult, you can speak to me directly or not speak regarding me at all. That's some of the most passive aggressive, straight up pussy fucking shit to have ever existed. Those kind of people turn into a dumpster fire of emotional despair the very second you call them out on it, too. I feel your pain. My …
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 10:46 PM
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This is an accurate synopsis. If everyone gets the same output regardless of input, there is no incentive in that system. In order for me to break my back doing manual labor, I must know that I will stand a chance to be better than the other guy and will maybe some day be promoted above him to no longer have to do that back breaking manual labor. I have to know that I'll earn enough to possibly own my own labor company and be the one calling the shots. There's a whole segment of our society push…
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 07:49 AM
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Fair enough. I'm proud of my college education as well, both degrees. The first go around wasn't as full of indoctrination as my second visit. I say impressionable people in the most innocent way that I can -meaning young people who are inexperienced with the world. My opinion is that our academic institutions are not what they used to be, and have fallen to the pursuit of agenda pushing subversive elements. I was exposed to it even with a very niche major. The baccalaureate core has devolved in…
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 07:42 AM
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You're forgetting that it isn't even for men most of the time. It's a competition between women. There's this arbitrary and dumbass "beauty standard" in which the closer one comes to achieving the fake pornstar/actress look, the higher they hold themselves socially. The competition is a never ending "look at me, I'm closer to achieving that than you are!". The very second one of them gets outflanked, they have to go spend money on some hair extensions or other cosmetic bullshit, so as to not be …
/r/MGTOW08/07/19 07:45 PM
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The ones who go after the super short hair, or even buzzed/bald, unless currently undergoing some sort of cancer treatment... they're almost unilaterally suffering from some mental shenanigans in which they are low key trying to prove they can pull off one of these new gender identity fads. Some of them just straight up have dick envy so bad they dress and present themselves like a man. It begs the question -who are they trying to convince? Other people or themselves?
/r/MGTOW08/07/19 06:40 PM
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Oh yes, the "I expect to be given everything because you gave me something" mentality. Like, how about you be appreciative that someone helped you out, and truly show that you deserve it. I mean, I'm not one to demand that you pay me back or demand that you earn what I've given you... because if I give it, I do so expecting from the beginning that I'll never get any of it back... but if I do, it is a nice little bonus... Although showing a little bit of incentive and appreciation goes a long way…
/r/MGTOW08/07/19 02:05 AM
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That's absolutely true. I've learned the same thing. You definitely learn who your true friends are, the ones who you absolutely would do anything for no matter what. It takes going through some rough shit to really find the real ones, though... unfortunately. When times are good, it's easy to find "friends", but when times are bad, you really figure out which ones are worth a fuck. I've gotten to a point in life where the people I truly give a fuck about, I can count on one hand. And I like it …
/r/MGTOW08/07/19 01:58 AM
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Of course they can't ignore them. Any more than they would ignore any group who is 51% of the voting block. Politicians are always going to talk out of both sides of their ass, and promise things they never intend to deliver. This is why they kow-tow to feminists right now, because they are the majority of voters. If they did anything contrary to that, they'd not be "good" politicians, and might tread dangerously close to having integrity. That's just how it works. When you're representing a gro…
/r/MGTOW07/07/19 12:25 AM
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It happens at virtually every level of our society. That's why they're so adept at manipulation, because they've evolved over a long ass period of time to get good at it. Think about it -some dude in a random professional setting. Normally chill and relaxed, or at minimum not a problem for you or anyone else. All of the sudden, you add in some thot who is manipulating his decisions in order to have a better outcome for her and he becomes a controlling, snake in the grass, piece of shit, willing …
/r/MGTOW07/07/19 12:07 AM
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I use gender neutral bathrooms all the time now. I didn't used to, but once the insanity started making everyone lose their damned minds and common decency, my give a fuck short circuited. Every single-occupancy restroom is a gender neutral restroom now. Dudes lined up waiting to use the men's room, because it's a single? No problem! Just use the women's! Nobody can give you any shit, either. If anybody gives you any shit, just look at them briefly and say "did you just assume my gender?" as you…
/r/MGTOW05/07/19 07:56 AM
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That's the beauty of feminism -it can't exist without leftist ideology. They're one and the same. So when they make retarded demands, such as "we need to convert the restroom into a gender neutral restroom!" which is really just an excuse to have more restrooms for females, and an effort to force men out into porta-shitters or elsewhere (that's the goal of feminism, right? attack males in any front possible), they can't then complain when men use those very same restrooms that they're using. If …
/r/MGTOW05/07/19 07:48 AM
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For the guys who have been going their own way, we've seen this writing on the wall for awhile. More so than even the tradcons. We've been in tune with it longer. If you're smart, you know to avoid this bullshit all together. Why on earth would you go into portland, for example, as a conservative? I mean, I get it... you "should" be able to go anywhere in the US and exercise your 1st, but the reality is you can't. So why would you go to a place like that, where there's an event that the left is …
/r/MGTOW04/07/19 02:00 AM
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As with the stories of interpersonal relationships, what you have related here, many guys could swear were their own personal story. So many times we experience the exact. same. things yet we're told they do not happen, we're just sexist misogynists. I've seen that shit first hand, too. The completely incompetent fool working in a very technical field, who gets "found out" due to her straight up lack of any sort of skill, when it comes time to actually perform. And what is the response? "Oh I'm …
/r/MGTOW04/07/19 01:48 AM
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Yep, you have to make sure that rules are understood. Which, I guess isn't important if what you're doing isn't dangerous. Because if all you are doing is working in an office, and the most that can happen is someone gets offended... then whatever, I guess. But at the end of the day, it isn't going to be the most productive for your bottom line. I can tell you from experience, however, that when people aren't given explanations and are just told to do something... they aren't going to do it all …
/r/MGTOW03/07/19 10:28 PM
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It will eventually get there. That will precisely be the moment the left starts eating its own in the workplace. I mean, it's already started happening in some places. There was a post awhile back on one of the subs here... maybe MGTOW or T_D in which a F>M transgender was bitching about workplace maternity leave. I guess this person had fought and fought to be accepted as a male, because their workplace was not allowing them to be seen as one... Well, fast forward a bit and I guess they won tha…
/r/MGTOW03/07/19 08:42 PM
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That literally is what you're doing. You're trying to outdo them at roleplaying. And then, when you come out with a promotion, you get a little more control over things and can maybe forget to include information sometimes, when some people might look bad for not getting it. Or you can maybe choose who gets to participate in large projects. They get to put on that smug grin when they think they're winning, when you are buying into their tactics and are pissed off and try fighting back all the ti…
/r/MGTOW03/07/19 07:39 PM
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Every relationship I've ever been in, I went into it full of excitement and that warm fuzzy glowing feeling... "This is amazing, I can't believe this is happening!" I told myself. Sometime between six months to a year or so into it, I'm always miserable and wondering why the fuck I did that to myself, and trying to figure out some way to escape it. You get that sinking feeling in your stomach. That anxious desperation for air, as if you're sinking below the surface of the water and can't swim...…
/r/MGTOW29/06/19 11:24 PM
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I used to chase ass as much as the next guy when I was a young buck, but as I got older and started living through tons of experiences, and eventually found my current way of living... I started noticing that I had essentially lost all desire for any of that bullshit. That's what makes the entire model/entertainment industry absurd to me. I mean, I completely get it. I understand it totally, because I used to consume it as much as the next person. I had those sports illustrated swimsuit calendar…
/r/MGTOW29/06/19 10:11 PM
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Or if you're smart, you know how to play the room in those drunken outings, and get things to hold over other peoples heads. You order the strong drinks like everyone else, but also order water. If you practice, you can appear to be drinking just as quickly as everyone else, without ever getting a buzz. You have to figure out how to remove enough water from the glass, while using sleight of hand to replace it with the alcohol by subtly pulling a switch-a-roo and making it look like you're using …
/r/MGTOW25/06/19 02:37 AM
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There is an art in making yourself busy. It takes some skill in mastering it. Not everyone knows how to do it, even though it's actually incredibly simple. Because most people who actually work hard, assume everyone is watching very closely what work is being done just like they do. When the reality is, only hard working people know what's actually going on. The lazy worthless people don't have a clue what's really being done, because they're too busy being... well, worthless sacks of shit fucki…
/r/MGTOW25/06/19 01:48 AM
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Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Can confirm, spot on analysis.
/r/MGTOW23/06/19 02:14 AM
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And remember, though, some cuck out there was so thirsty he married that.
/r/MGTOW15/06/19 12:32 AM
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It's crazy how true this is.
/r/MGTOW09/06/19 10:23 PM
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It's in her purse, along with the validation he'll be messaging her for pretty much non stop for a week after this took place, hoping to get a whiff for defending m'ladys honor.
/r/MGTOW09/06/19 10:22 PM
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It means she had a petty fight with the man who knocked her up, and she's airing passive aggressive laundry on social media in effort to "get back at him" for everyone to see, as if to say "yea, you might be off with a new girl, but you aren't a REAL MAN and I have PROOF! And now everybody else gets to see it!! Take that!!" It's all stupid drama by stupid people with room temperature IQ, using social media to fight their stupid little battles. I don't know why people keep posting this garbage. I…
/r/MGTOW09/06/19 09:56 PM
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Even the most fringe edges of society that still have male-only organizations, such as motorcycle clubs, car clubs, gun clubs, etc, are largely male only just in name. They might only have "official" members that are only male, meaning that voting, position holding members can only be guys.... but given enough time, eventually a female is going to be invited to come around a little closer. She might be the wife or girlfriend of the president or another organization member, but rest assured, she'…
/r/MGTOW09/06/19 07:24 AM
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Listen to any college graduate from the last 5 five years try to articulate an argument. It always begins with "I feel like...". This is learned behavior that trickles down. Language didn't just suddenly change overnight. People are being taught that truth and reality don't matter, that subjectivity is more important than objectivity. They are being told that their truth and their reality is more important than the truth and the reality of things. This is by design, so that people don't understa…
/r/MGTOW09/06/19 04:13 AM
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Yep... I know exactly what you're saying. Those who have legitimate struggles, such as PTSD and actual clinical depression, try to hide it because they see it as a weakness and are ashamed of it. Because truly and realistically, that's what it is. It's a disability. Often the people who are actually afflicted with those illnesses, come from a background of being highly motivated, with incredible work ethic and drive, and a huge passion for what they do/have done in their lives -but have suffered…
/r/MGTOW08/06/19 10:35 PM
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I've seen a few. Though they're typically the do-rag wearing type with summer teeth who chew tobacco while they smoke and roll up their sleeves to let their "mom" tattoo get some sunlight. Oh, and they are usually like 54 years old with leathery skin and can whip your ass before you can figure out what's going on. They drive a diesel pickup truck, not for yee yee purposes, but because they need it to haul around all of the equipment they need for their roofing business. They've usually got one o…
/r/MGTOW04/06/19 02:08 AM
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In this modern clusterfuck of what's going on with feminism, deep down, a lot of them including the self proclaimed feminists (perhaps especially those, even, with the level of projection that goes on) know that they are going to hit a stage in their life where the "strong, independent, career focused life" is not going to be satisfying for them. They know at least on some level, that they are going to want to "settle down" and do what they claimed they never wanted to do. They realize that ther…
/r/MGTOW04/06/19 01:55 AM
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That's hilarious, more often than not, it's the government and your child support + welfare paying for Chad, too. All of that money goes towards buying broke down cars off of facebook marketplace that they can drive for six months until the motor or transmission goes out, or some other incredibly expensive repair, at which point they just trade it for drugs or a months worth of cell phone time, and then borrow rides until they can purchase another $500 heap of junk. It pays for eating out in fas…
/r/MGTOW03/06/19 07:32 PM
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All of this is evidenced in just how quickly the "buzzwords" are coming down the pipe in other institutions across society. Many corporations have very recently been jumping on the bandwagon of rewriting their human resources policies and trainings to include phrases such as gender identity, microagressions, inclusiveness, and equity. Words and phrases that just five or ten years ago would have only been found within the classroom of those very same universities. These changes typically occur af…
/r/MGTOW01/06/19 06:27 AM
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I see you've swallowed a black pill there, friend. I've always found it absurd that a guys height is something that is looked at negatively, is laughed at, attacked, and even ridiculed. In fact, you would be poked fun at by other subs for even posting this in a "omg another short guy complaining about not getting a date". I truly don't get it. Even if you try and have an honest discussion with a woman about it, the ones who try to be rational just say "well, it's just a preference, I just like t…
/r/MGTOW01/06/19 04:52 AM
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There was a time in society where that particular situation took care of itself. It might sound harsh, but they mostly knew the consequences of their actions and it largely kept that behavior in check. Did it still happen? Absolutely. But did that mean that society was bending over backwards to provide food, shelter, and clothing for the woman and her bastard children? Nope, it sure didn't. It then became the role of charity to take them in, which largely meant those taking advantage of said cha…
/r/MGTOW29/05/19 01:54 AM
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Congrats man! When I started saving money every month, not spending on useless bullshit/frivolous pursuits, being happy and content with minimalist lifestyle, going to the gym, eating better, and focusing on myself... I really started to shift my entire world view for the better. I was not able to do that when I was on the plantation. It was too much of a distraction. Everything dictates that you must acquire females through any means necessary. Society tells you that if you aren't dating and se…
/r/MGTOW29/05/19 01:39 AM
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Spot on analysis. Forced diversity based on identity politics does not automatically result in diversity of ideas. People are not automatically diverse of ideas strictly because they are diverse of skin color and/or gender. Ideas are created through experience of the world. You can be whatever identity politics quota box category, and still be incredibly inexperienced and incompetent. Just because you have a vagina, or just because you belong to a particular ethnicity, does not inherently make y…
/r/MGTOW27/05/19 06:32 PM
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I have seen a lot of strange errors in this sub and others that are seen as unfortunate places. If you type up long detailed replies with lots of key "buzzwords" and phrases, you'll get a random error when trying to submit the comment. You might think it's a server issue the first time you encounter it. Then after you see it happen several times, you copy/paste your comment into notepad to save it for later. The comment fails to post every time you try to post it in the thread. However, if you j…
/r/MGTOW27/05/19 05:37 PM
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This is just more equality of outcome marxist dog whistling. It's invading so many aspects of western culture right now, mostly thanks to academia and "the media", it's absurd. Pretty much anyone younger than 35, who's been exposed to "higher education" has been indoctrinated to believe that the proper way society should function, is not by equality of opportunity, but rather by equality of outcome. This is a school of thought that regardless of giving two or more people the same exact opportuni…
/r/MGTOW26/05/19 02:19 AM
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Wtf, and here I thought I've experienced some degenerate shit because I had a roommate that watched hentai Society truly is going to hell in a handbasket
/r/MGTOW18/05/19 06:43 PM
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Honk honk
/r/MGTOW18/05/19 06:36 PM
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2008: We don't need no man! We're empowered! We're going to all get careers and not have families because gender roles are for losers! 2010: We totally made the right decision, this college thing is great! We're learning all about the patriarchy and how it oppresses us! Gee, I'm going to have a great career ahead of me! Who needs kids and a family? 2014: Discovers feminism, shaves head, nose piercing, tattoos 2015: Graduates with underwater basket weaving lesbian dance therapy degree 2016: Works…
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 01:45 AM
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You'd think, maybe it's just going to take more time... but I made an observation just last week while travelling. I stopped at a McDonalds for a quick lunch a few states away from home. The woman working the register was chatting up some dude and ignored me for a solid two or three minutes. Granted, they weren't busy, but I stood there waiting. I don't eat McDonalds very often. Pretty much only when I'm on the road and need a quick bite. I don't know their menu. I asked for something by name, i…
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 01:19 AM
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It's getting worse, though. Now, it's getting to the point that even ghosting can end the same way. They see ghosting as some sort of "abuse" in their hamster wheel of rationalization and will decide nothing is too far across the line to get revenge. They're feeling the heat, hence this article. If ghosting in and of itself were 100% effective, you wouldn't have stalkers tracking down dudes that ghosted them just to be able to get the "final say" and feel like they were the ones who did the reje…
/r/MGTOW13/05/19 03:09 AM
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You got some downvotes there guy, looks like you're over the target. The self diagnosis of "anxiety" and then in turn using it as an excuse to get out of freaking everything is so goddamned common among millennial females, it's fucking cancer.
/r/MGTOW07/05/19 10:35 PM
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That's the level of entitlement they are enshrined with. The ones who are so fucking wrapped up with that bullshit ideology feel that they are entitled to literally anything in the world that they want, because thus far in life they've basically been given everything on a silver platter. Mostly upper-middle class and higher white women who have never worked a day in their lives, who don't know what manual labor even looks like, who are used to getting anything they want by simply demanding it. T…
/r/MGTOW01/05/19 01:31 AM
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Give them what they want. Let them have the entire franchise, turn it into the power puff girls. Let the feminists run crazy with it, persecuting men. Turn the entire marvel universe into one giant Gillette commercial. Then they can spend some money on the internet controlling the narrative, just like they did with Captain Feminism trying to convince people that the negative reviews are alt-right trolls and bots. They're already halfway there. Endgame had plenty of SJW pandering. It wasn't so ba…
/r/MGTOW01/05/19 01:25 AM
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This is true. This is especially true for cases where you might have heard "we've got your back". I wish more guys understood this. There are a whole lot of weak motherfuckers out there who you cannot depend on, who will buckle under pressure the very moment it is required of them to stand up.
/r/MGTOW30/04/19 01:37 AM
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If you can donate $100k to a university, bother to show up to most of the classes, and have a pulse, you too can get a bachelors degree! Even if you are one of those pesky people who misses out on class after class, they'll work with you most of the time to find some solution to not have to fail you if possible. The vast majority of degrees now have become worthless. Which is a shame, because there are people with degrees who actually worked for them, so it's not fair to those people to have the…
/r/MGTOW30/04/19 01:29 AM
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Unfortunately we live in a society in 2019 where females have flocked to mental illness as being a badge of honor, to where they make them up as part of some fucked up "cool kids club". The worst part is, there are existing taboos in most of our institutions that have only been emboldened with regards to calling people on their bullshit when it comes to mental health. It's frowned upon very heavily, and in some cases can even be illegal, to "not believe" people. Mental health is one of those tri…
/r/MGTOW30/04/19 01:22 AM
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Dear god do they make everyone else around them miserable, too, though. They cannot fathom how fucking pathetic and insufferable they are, and so they blame every shortcoming they have on some external factor or outside force. They constantly incite drama and conflict among their peers, especially if there is no conflict currently taking place. They simply cannot exist in a quiet peaceful place, so they fuck it all up. And when it comes crashing down around them, because they've salted the field…
/r/MGTOW30/04/19 01:08 AM
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The west is absolutely aware of this, but they won't speak about it publicly or admit it. Why do you think unbridled immigration is a top priority for so many politicians and governments in western nations? Immigrants from third world nations are mostly behind the times when it comes to gynocentric systems and feminist rhetoric that destroys a civilization. Instead of doing anything to fix the problem, the easy and "quiet" solution is to simply import poor people who are still marrying and havin…
/r/MGTOW28/04/19 08:24 PM
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Oh yea, the promising free shit and promising no rules in exchange for hurting dear old dad to get her revenge. "I'll let you stay up as late as you want, fail out of school, drink alcohol, smoke weed, and do anything you want so long as you promise to say your dad hit me when the lawyers ask you" That shit is more common than you can imagine. All the father wants is for his children to grow up halfway decent, with a modicum of integrity and discipline. But the temptation of the CC and strange i…
/r/MGTOW28/04/19 06:55 PM
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Which still lowers the bar on acceptable candidates... If you're engineering a new space craft to supply a moon base, and a firm has perused applicants from all of the aerospace engineering schools for recent grads, only to come up with 90% male applicants, yet still choose to hire the position based on "diversity" you are running a high risk of choosing a less than desirable applicant. While it's true that aerospace engineering takes dedication and hard work, and those who succeed in those prog…
/r/MGTOW28/04/19 04:41 AM
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The above reply is correct. Son, I'm going to lay down a harsh truth right now that you should probably listen to if you value working where you do. Work is not a place you make friends at. You can be friendly and you can even hang out with people from work. But you damned sure don't shit where you eat. I'm telling you this from personal experience, hoping, pleading with you to learn from shit I've seen first hand. I've seen this shit go down in the years I've worked in industry. I've tried to w…
/r/MGTOW28/04/19 04:05 AM
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The problem with the whole "privilege" bullshit narrative in it's current form, which seems to be based on gender and/or race, is that it doesn't take into account the socioeconomic status and life circumstances of the individual -as you stated, no one really knows what another person has went through to just base it on some superficial part of their identity. You can sit in a college classroom and discuss theory all day, but the reality of the world is that people of all walks of life, genders,…
/r/MGTOW28/04/19 03:05 AM
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Unable to control their emotions which then spiral out over petty things and result in large fights that could have easily been avoided by saying, "oh, you forgot the ice cream I asked you to get? okay, cool, we'll get it next time or I'll pick it up when I'm in town" followed by continuing to be an adult and forgetting about it. Instead, the hamster engages warp drive over the slightest thing and overthinks literally everything, trying to analyze why you did it, or what motivation you had to hu…
/r/MGTOW28/04/19 02:11 AM
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Of course its single mothers agreeing lol, the ones who's baby daddy only lasted through the first few months to first year or two of the baby being born before the relationship dissolved, and now they're "struggling" because they spend their child support on alcohol, partying, and shopping at the mall, and have to pony up their free time to earn extra money when their lifestyle outpaces what welfare, EBT, HUD, and child support pays for. They all nod and smile in smug unison when they see that …
/r/MGTOW26/04/19 03:20 AM
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Gets the baby crazy Wants nothing more than to have a baby, consequences be damned OMG this is so hard, I'm a victim, everyone look at how hard I have it and how difficult this is! Basically the same exact template for going into the workforce. So they naturally combine the two together and scream about being uber-victim, while somehow being uber-hero for living through it.
/r/MGTOW26/04/19 03:12 AM
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They follow it because as you pointed out, the liberal party is indeed shit, and they've been force fed so much ridiculous bullshit from the liberals for so long now, supporting Trump -even in a passive way, is a giant middle finger to those shoving the shit down their throats. The reality is, there are two parties in the US. A third party has zero realistic chance of doing anything. That's just how fucked up the system is. You can try and change it, you can campaign for some outside force and h…
/r/MGTOW25/04/19 01:40 AM
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The navy is removing terms such as "gunners mate" because it's sexist and the feminists have had a field day with it. We have gotten to the point that their bullshit has blown up in their faces, with things like the kavanaugh fiasco, so now they're just trying to take down anything they can to "smash the patriarchy" in some petty revenge.
/r/MGTOW25/04/19 12:10 AM
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more than qualified Seems legit. Same way they are more than qualified now in the roles they are taking un male dominant fields. Where suddenly they get qualified with nobody knowing how or when they actually passed the testing procedures. It just mysteriously happened. Oh, and to make it more ridiculous, they sometimes end up coming in, and going straight to the top in terms of qualifications, within a short period of time, getting more qualified than guys who have been doing it for years. But …
/r/MGTOW21/04/19 03:56 PM
3

I think you would have been within your rights to tell her to fuck off and keep the dog if you would have wanted to. Should have told her to sue you for it if she wanted it back. I swear people who treat animals that badly should lose them.
/r/MGTOW13/04/19 07:43 PM
3

Regardless of the pros/cons, it comes with the right to vote. That alone should be the deciding factor. IMO: You either risk conscription with your right to vote, and must sign up for selective service -and have legislative guarantees that said conscription will have an equal chance of seeing front line combat/death -or- You lose your right to vote along with the risk of conscription. I will never sympathize with anyone who wants to give wishy-washy "but but, what if this, what if that" scenario…
/r/MGTOW30/03/19 02:42 AM
5

Clam jousting tournament
/r/MGTOW30/03/19 12:44 AM
13

There's a reason they guard those phones like the fucking holy grail. Smartphones hold all of their secrets and lies, in one little convenient place. All of the numerous relationships they're working at one time are done from that phone. If you want to see a woman flip the fuck out, pick up her phone if she leaves it on the table. You don't even have to actually go through it, just pretend like you are. You know what I've got on my phone? Fishing pictures, pictures of the motorcycle motor I've g…
/r/MGTOW29/03/19 01:45 AM
12

If letting society walk all over you, tell you you're a weak and pathetic piece of shit, use you like a fucking doormat, toss you to the side like a piece of garbage, and constantly shame and shun you is what's required to not be full of "toxic masculinity", then I guess I'll just have to be full of toxic masculinity. I will not apologize for it, either. It's okay to be a man, and it's okay to be masculine. You do not have to bow down to everyone's emotional whims and cater to insecurities and s…
/r/MGTOW28/03/19 01:06 AM
12

There are a handful of professions that are experiencing this now. The typically male dominant, high risk, high stress, incredibly dangerous, yet also "badass" professions. The military was one of the obvious ones to take the first fall. There are a handful of others that are now being invaded, too. Everything you said applies to these other professions. They want the status and attention that goes along with working in one of these "badass" jobs, namely the instagram posts, but don't want any o…
/r/MGTOW27/03/19 01:31 AM
6

This, also, gets you labeled a creep. Going out of your way to not look in the direction of a woman gets their attention and will bring upon the creep label. Look at them, creep. Avoid looking at them, creep. Saving for that cabin in the woods, to live off the grid in a self sustainable way. Society can go fuck itself entirely. Hopefully my ex wont find about it and start slinking around again.
/r/MGTOW24/03/19 08:22 PM
3

[laughs in 1999]
/r/MGTOW16/03/19 02:26 AM
8

Yep, pretty much. They share their information internally, on how to get those resources, but don't want us sharing information internally on what's actually going on. Each guy that opens his eyes is one less possible meal ticket, which they don't like. It lowers their available safety net. It doesn't matter if they are even interested in a particular guy who is MGTOW, the thought of a guy walking away from society and the rigged game is lowering that potential. And they're all about the potenti…
/r/MGTOW02/03/19 02:11 AM
1

My grandfather is really like my father. My actual father is around, but he had his issues with health, drugs, and overall just a bad go at life. I have a broken relationship with him, that was mostly caused by my mother -but also by his own decisions. My grandfather on the other hand is a man I look up to with the deepest respect and admiration. He's very old now. I am separated by a lot of distance, but spend every bit of vacation time I get to go visit him. A lot of my friends take trips to b…
/r/MGTOW02/03/19 01:39 AM
2

Hey man, you can not be fat. It's a lot easier than you might think. Just make a routine, don't try to over achieve or you'll burn yourself out and give up. The absolute biggest thing is making routine out of exercising. Go to the gym once a day. I don't care if you only last for two minutes on the slowest setting. The fact that you went is a feat in and of itself. Make the effort to go every day if you can. If you miss a day because you're sick or something, make sure you go right back the very…
/r/MGTOW02/03/19 01:05 AM
7

This is exactly what I was thinking while reading the article. Every single point written was a creation of women that men have simply said, "oh, okay, I guess we're doing this now" and they're fucking pissed about it? I mean, that's like stomping on a rake and nailing yourself in the balls with the handle, and then doing it over and over really fast, stomping the shit out of it, and then saying, "WTF why do my balls hurt, rakes are the source of all of my problems!!!" Rome is burning again.
/r/MGTOW01/03/19 01:08 PM
2

One argument I've had with the "Free college", is that I can see both sides. On one hand, it's incredibly difficult to justify paying for that bullshit if we're just going to allow everyone to pick bullshit degrees and wrack up debt well beyond what we have now. On the other hand, it has gotten a little ridiculous with hiring standards. So many damned places now require a fucking degree, plus five years experience, for an entry level job that shouldn't even require a goddamned degree. I can tota…
/r/MGTOW27/02/19 01:35 AM
2

When they elect Bernie Sanders, have their loans forgiven, and get free state university, they'll just re-enroll to avoid having to enter into the workforce. Basically the same thing that happens with women who were in the military, once they start using military college benefits. They'll change majors as many times as possible and become career students. Or perhaps that new "free" education plan will let them have as many degrees as they want. Granted, they're not looking too far into the futur…
/r/MGTOW27/02/19 01:19 AM
7

Even with all the decision makers in STEM practically screaming that they will throw jobs at them, because apparently they don't have enough women in STEM. And since there aren't enough women going into STEM, the ones who are running the show, who've managed to get into the HR roles scream that it must be due to sexism, and that men are to blame.
/r/MGTOW27/02/19 01:16 AM
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This is one of the best responses here. The fact that she went through with a harassment complaint means she got the first punch in, and as far as HR is concerned, she's the legitimate party. Nothing you can do about it but protect yourself by going on the defensive. Full on pence rule. No one on one settings with her. No work trips with her. None of that stuff. Do not talk to her, do not interact with her. Don't be caught anywhere that you can't be vouched for by other employees. Delete social …
/r/MGTOW25/02/19 06:35 AM
8

Relationships in the workplace are cancer and effect not only one another, but everyone around them, and this is a perfect example. When one of them fucks up, the other will constantly try and back them up. This is particularly true of the guy trying to white knight for the female. There's nothing worse than having to deal with some idiot trying to inject his dumbass opinion into a disciplinary action, simply because he's dating/fucking/crushing on a woman at work. It generally makes the whole s…
/r/MGTOW25/02/19 06:26 AM
5

You are likely correct. The term "abuse" has been redefined in the last 5 or 6 years it seems. Now, it basically means anything that is remotely construed as "mean" or "unpleasant", which is dumb because anyone can find anything unpleasant or mean. If you come home from work and find that your kid is laying in filth, meanwhile she's been on social media all day, and you get upset and call her on her bullshit -that's considered abuse. You aren't allowed call people out any longer if you are a mal…
/r/MGTOW25/02/19 06:12 AM
1

It's all twisting of language anyway. Just like leftists do with shit. "Objectifying women" means looking at women in a way that equates to being attracted to them sexually, not literally looking at them like an "object". When they say, "stop objectifying women" it's just another blurring of words that really means, "we only want unattractive men to stop being attracted to us sexually". This is evident in how they "objectify" themselves more than men do when they turn right around and invest in …
/r/MGTOW25/02/19 05:15 AM
2

I think ink is fine on men, but most guys have the body for it. Ink is meant to be on a chiseled and rugged frame -not the pudgy and soft blobs that women roll around with. It just looks trashy that way. The same is true if a man isn't built for it. If they're lazy fatass Captain Soybeards who haven't picked up a weight or hit the treadmill in a long time, they probably aren't going to pass the test for ink.
/r/MGTOW25/02/19 02:23 AM
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And still ends up whoring around with the same deadbeats. The only difference is whether she does that before, or after. The monogamous relationship with a stable guy, who is a competent provider is not a long term interest to women. They will always want the fun and excitement of low life scum that fuck and chuck, even if it means completely and totally destroying their lives to get it. Even if they claim to be an alpha widow, who is done with the CC, once they've locked down a BB, post-wall...…
/r/MGTOW25/02/19 02:20 AM
2

They don't even have to be in a relationship with you to want to destroy you. They can be a coworker, a colleague, or a fellow student. They can simply be someone in a mutual friends group. It doesn't take much for them to lock onto you as a target. If you've got your eyes open to the world, and know what is going on around you... you can generally notice when these people are around. And if you say or do anything that lets them know you've discovered them, you will immediately be a target. Some…
/r/MGTOW23/02/19 04:20 AM
2

If they stay in the same circles long enough, though, eventually people start seeing the truth for themselves after they too are attacked. That's the thing with narcs. They can't stay in the same place for too long. At least not without losing their little clubs and support systems. Don't get me wrong, some of them might stay put for years, but most will get bored with losing their minions and move along. They have to, otherwise they lose out on that power and control over people. They aren't lo…
/r/MGTOW22/02/19 09:57 AM
1

I would start with the guys at Echelon Front. They're top notch.
/r/MGTOW20/02/19 07:25 PM
2

When that happens, the ones who choose well will survive economic strife. The ones who still choose to virtue signal/can't read the winds will fail. Economic prosperity is what creates "gender opinion editors" within newspapers, because they have enough security and fluff to afford it. When the lid tightens up, those people have to learn to code.
/r/MGTOW20/02/19 09:17 AM
4

So nothing like their feel-good SJW commercial. But you know, gotta' push that globalist agenda. Because the only way for the globalist economy to work, with integration of everyone working together in forced quotas where there are even representations of every race/gender is if everyone plays along in literally everything. Because if you have a single outlier that still hires based on talent/merit, that outlier will outperform every. single. time. It doesn't matter what the makeup will be, eith…
/r/MGTOW20/02/19 08:51 AM
2

I've read through this entire thread man. I don't have anything inspiring to say or any advice. All I can say, is goddamn brother. What a fucking hand. This comment in particular stuck out to me. I hope you are able to truly move past it, because it sounds like that's all that is really left to do at this junction. I am just a stranger on the internet, but I fully support you in doing what you need to do for yourself. I wish you nothing but the best in trying to come out on the other side. That'…
/r/MGTOW20/02/19 05:28 AM
3

I know one who's late 20's, very rapidly approaching the wall. She's in full blown panic mode lately, because she know's it's happening. She likes to tell stories about her youth, as if she's some 60 year old woman, linking to the "back in the day" times. Part of those stories are excuses about her health and appearance. One in particular that comes out so often I get tired of hearing about it, are her bad knees. Apparently she played basketball in college for like a single semester, but the sto…
/r/MGTOW18/02/19 03:56 PM
1

Hold onto your hat, the world the progressives are pushing us towards would have everyone exist as some weird androgynous race of homosexual hermaphrodites comprised of a single global ethnicity. Basically, we'll turn into that episode from south park where we're all a generic future race of cookie-cutter humans that are indistinguishable from each other regardless of literally any feature.
/r/MGTOW16/02/19 01:55 AM
3

not financially stable There's a weird dichotomy here, though. The ones that are completely and utterly not financially stable often end up wanting a child as a means to an end. They see it as a way to lift them up out of poverty, either through government subsidies or nailing down a guy with a paycheck. The ones who truly aren't having kids for that reason? They're far more financially stable than the ones that are popping out meal tickets.
/r/MGTOW15/02/19 12:41 PM
2

If you really want to see the truth for things, do some of that experimentation for yourself. You can either use your own profile, or use a fake one. If you've had a profile that gets next to zero attention or replies, you can change that. Just go straight to the point and put your resources on display instead of your interests/hobbies or even your looks (if you have them). Doesn't matter if you have the resources or not, because this is an experiment. You have to put something in the profile li…
/r/MGTOW12/02/19 02:20 AM
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I can't even go to a bar any longer just for the social environment. I don't even drink alcohol these days, so I sure as shit don't go there for that. I went last night/tonight -however you want to look at it, since I've not slept yet. Typically I go in and do some people watching, to observe behaviors and learn a little, maybe study a bit on it. Really it's more for entertainment and the atmosphere than anything. I like the chill places, like a laid back brewery or something. I can't even go th…
/r/MGTOW10/02/19 08:15 AM
9

I wish I could build a time machine and go back and tell my younger self that I would stop caring about sex so much if I just stopped plowing for awhile. Back in my late teens/early 20s, I was constantly horny, and NEEDED to get laid. It did indeed become an uncontrollable drug. If I wasn't hooking up with some plate, I felt like I was losing my mind. I constantly was being controlled by the need and desire to find some girl to work and hook up with. It was physically painful if I didn't chase t…
/r/MGTOW10/02/19 06:46 AM
6

If not, that might be the thing that sparks it.
/r/MGTOW08/02/19 09:14 PM
5

Joining the military, for women, in a lot of cases... is the same thing as when they purchase a mountain bike and all the gear. So they can push it to the top of a hill, after unloading it from their car as far up the hill as they could drive, and then once they get up there, wait for that perfect sunrise to come up so they can get a selfie with the sun in the background. Basically, it's like, yea -you got up super early. You did walk up a steep hill pushing a heavy mountain bike. You have all t…
/r/MGTOW07/02/19 02:36 PM
1

Absolutely my friend. I frequent this place a couple of times a week, hit me up for sure.
/r/MGTOW01/02/19 04:54 AM
1

Organizational/behavior psychology a very interesting subject, that's for sure. Yep. The right mindset at the right levels within an organization, is realistically what can make or break it. You can always redesign a failed product or service, or cling onto a successful one... but the wrong mindset among your people can sink you in a bad way, even if your product/service is stellar. Conversely, if what you're selling sucks, the right mindset can fix that very quickly and get you back on track. G…
/r/MGTOW01/02/19 04:49 AM
2

There are several ways to look at this, all of which are valid answers. Personally, I think working while you look for something you enjoy and can succeed in will be the best course of action. Not working isn't good for your mental health as a man. But slaving away for scraps, making other people rich, and not getting anything in return isn't either. If this construction job is like most construction jobs I've personally known, then you might just want to be on autopilot for awhile and do a notc…
/r/MGTOW01/02/19 03:43 AM
2

I'm sure a GoFundMe Something tells me that was the whole point. If not that particular site, something similar. It happens so frequently now, it's becoming easy to connect the dots and identify.
/r/MGTOW01/02/19 02:54 AM
5

There are a lot of things that went wrong in this scenario, from the perspective of business in the US. Granted I am not familiar with the climate in the UK, but from what I gather, it's more of a SJW clusterfuck than what it is here. To start with what the CEO did right -apparently he covered his bases having more people in the room. He was smart enough to know he needed people to be witnesses against any accusations. He had that going for him, I guess. But if the rest of the article is true, w…
/r/MGTOW01/02/19 02:51 AM
2

I make a sport out of encouraging this among people who like to complain about equality and inclusion, while also being the kind that spout off "gender is a social construct". For some reason, they are a little hesitant to agree on males and females competing in the NFL together, on the same teams. The same with their kids leagues. They love spouting about this shit in theory, but when they stand to lose something, they back off. Not all of them, obviously, but it's entertaining to watch them sp…
/r/MGTOW01/02/19 02:10 AM
5

I've posted about this on here before, but I've started that shift myself. I used to go out of my way to help people in a lot of things. It's just how I was raised. It bit me in the ass a few times. Nothing serious, but enough to be annoying. And now you see people getting bit in the ass in a real way, to where I look back and feel lucky I only got a minor tongue lashing for only trying to be helpful to folks. So while I grew up in a rural part of the country, and was taught to stop and help you…
/r/MGTOW31/01/19 02:15 AM
5

Yep, there are tons of ways I know of making money if it weren't for pesky ethics, that aren't even really against the law. One of the more common ones that are peddled these days are "managed media firms" where you set up a website, show off a bunch of cash/income/beach trips/cars, tell people to like/share on social media for information on how to make this kind of cash. It leads to a website where they pay you to learn how to get steady income flow, from the comfort of your home, without havi…
/r/MGTOW30/01/19 07:55 AM
3

My father said I never needed the meds That's the important part. If you don't need the medication, and take it anyway, it tends to have the opposite reaction. It fucks you up worse. Some people actually need medication to correct a problem that has been unable to be corrected fully through therapy. Even then, medication will only correct about 20% of the issue. But if you don't truly have the issue to start with, and take the medication anyway, it's going to fuck you in a bad way. Not truly dep…
/r/MGTOW30/01/19 12:56 AM
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realize men and women can't be friends The understanding of definitions goes a long way. What a lot of people mean by friends, is more like acquaintances. That works between men and women, it can be functional. The second it goes into "friends" territory, where the messaging/texting/hanging out starts, is when it has a very high probability of trying to turn sexual, at least for one party. Which means it either will turn sexual, or the "friendship" will crash and burn. I don't know why people do…
/r/MGTOW29/01/19 01:00 AM
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Ask what they're talking about, because she's spent all evening texting back and forth with him, without putting her phone down more than about 15 seconds at a time, even if you were trying to spend the evening together, and it results in an immediate fight. "GOD why does it matter? Why do you have to know? WTF we're just friends, nothing is going on, you're controlling as fuck!" Then, when it comes out later on that she was sleeping with someone, it's always that same exact dude.
/r/MGTOW29/01/19 12:51 AM
2

I no longer drink, but I still enjoy the atmosphere of a brewery or a classy bar/taphouse with live music and chill environment. I just drink seltzer water. You can still enjoy aspects of alcohol without ever it ever touching your lips. Sometimes you'll run across a loud drunk, or a group of college kids who don't know their limit.. that's annoying, but if you know how to choose your venue, it's mostly a non issue. I still really enjoy the social aspect of it.
/r/MGTOW27/01/19 08:37 AM
2

Unfortunately, for investors, there are still enough smooth talking snake oil salesmen out there lying to them about what it is they're trying to build up, to the point this bubble is still actively expanding. We're just now seeing a little bit of the top portion of the bubble starting to burst a little. The bottom of it is still very much expanding. I, for one, am glad to see it burst. Even at the expense of any economic hit. I'm not a fan of wasting other peoples money under false pretenses. T…
/r/MGTOW27/01/19 06:34 AM
7

I'm right there with you. I lost a lot of interest in gaming. Mass Effect was such an amazing trilogy. I grew up on the original consoles. Then I got into the others later in life and eventually PC in college. Mass Effect was the last game I really was into, after 3, I lost a lot of interest. Life and all. I gave andromeda a try, but was already sketched out by the news of all the agenda pushing from Bioware. And then you saw the obvious drop in quality. From the story, to the bugs, to the terri…
/r/MGTOW27/01/19 05:39 AM
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That's good in theory until you get your head bit off by a feminist for "assuming" something, no matter how well intentioned, even if they ended up accepting it anyway. I used to be of this mindset, I was the guy who would give up a seat to a pregnant woman, until feminism taught me that I'm a toxic male deserving of nothing, and women are strong and independent and deserving of everything. I also used to stop and help people broke down on the side of the road and a ton of other things I've stop…
/r/MGTOW27/01/19 03:57 AM
1

Ask her for money. Tell her you're perpetually broke and need cash, like a hundred bucks. Don't ask for a loan, just ask if she will gift it to you so that you don't have to pay her back. If she does, you've got a hundred bucks. Then do it again. Keep doing it until she ghosts you
/r/MGTOW27/01/19 03:41 AM
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After all, they mess up everything. Which they fail to understand, happens whether intentional or not. That is the outcome with every takeover of a men's group. Look at combat sports, for example. There was a local MMA group that was rather good. There were various styles you could practice in. The instructors were very good, kind, and professional. They took the time to train you from the lowest level guy, all the way up to seasoned dudes. The training program included everything from basic wor…
/r/MGTOW27/01/19 03:20 AM
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That's the mindset I've had. Engaging in discussion is perfectly fine, under the anonymity of text. That's kind of the point of an internet forum. The second you put up "as a female" you're trying to invoke the woman card or manipulate people into seeing things from that angle. Which isn't what this place is for. Either engage in the discussion for the sake of the discussion, or leave. I have no problem with either. I get it that curiosity brings women here. I also know that spitefulness and hat…
/r/MGTOW27/01/19 03:12 AM
6

I mean, when you spend your whole existence plugged into the social media machine. Constantly on a phone or laptop, checking instagram, facebook, twitter, and tinder and whatever else I don't know about... while using filters for selfies, getting all the human interaction you need through a screen... Who needs to shave their legs? And even then, when you know ahead of time exactly when and where you're going to hookup, because those very apps let you arrange it, you can do it an hour before you …
/r/MGTOW25/01/19 07:04 AM
7

When this kind of shit happens to a kid, and they give into the bullying and off themselves, the media grabs hold of it and it turns into a tragic story (because it truly is, and should indeed get attention). In some cases the parents sue the parents of the kids who did the bullying. If a guy kills himself because he was bullied by a woman, nobody cares, and nobody will ever hear about it. Even if somebody did hear about it and tried to spread the message, nobody would care. Men are disposable. …
/r/MGTOW25/01/19 06:37 AM
4

Most of them now are not only confessing to it, they're parading it as if it's a heroic feat. They literally take pride in their mental illnesses. There have been some "awareness" campaigns going on recently, in which they encourage one another to come forward and speak about how brave they are.
/r/MGTOW25/01/19 06:32 AM
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"I plead guilty your honor, I really thought about escaping and getting a job, but all those guards, k9's, and screams of torture down the hallway really made me think twice. I figured my safest bet was to just wait it out, so that eventually someone would come save my ass from that shithole, and I could be flown back to the US where I could immediately be brought before a judge and plead guilty to missing child support payments and thrown right back into another cell. Which I guess we're doing …
/r/MGTOW25/01/19 05:55 AM
3

I’d wager most of these kids grow up to hate their mothers. That's assuming they don't contribute to the statistics beforehand.
/r/MGTOW25/01/19 05:05 AM
6

Toes pointed inwards, hello kitty shoes... mid 40s... yea, totally still young and relevant, give me attention, here, wear this dress and pose for the camera you little shit tee hee
/r/MGTOW25/01/19 05:03 AM
4

I have mostly engaged in these conversations to try to fucking defend myself from this idiotic notion that it's somehow all men's responsibility (like that stupid Gillette ad) to somehow make sure all guys are behaving in a manner females find acceptable. And in doing so, you have fallen hook, line, and sinker for the trap the feminist man hating idiots behind the gillette ad set for you. Doing that doesn't make them respect you or find you to be some "acceptable male", if anything, they find yo…
/r/MGTOW25/01/19 04:30 AM
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I agree with you. I'd like to have a kid myself, if the political climate ever changed. I'd love to have son to teach all of my skills and hobbies to.. show him how to hunt and fish. But not in this environment, where he would be turned against me and watch me be reduced into a hollow shell, while every last speck of financial resources were sucked out of me, like I was just some human battery like in the matrix or something. Fuck. That.
/r/MGTOW22/01/19 03:17 AM
10

This place is starting to get the same targeted brigading that places like The_Donald have started seeing. Once a message of wrongthink starts to get too popular on reddit, the shills start hanging out and downvote the shit out of it so that the message doesn't get out. They use bots and scripts in some cases, if the sub or content gets too popular and manual manipulation isn't effective enough. Censorship of ideas is becoming mainstream in the west, you might as well get used to it.
/r/MGTOW22/01/19 01:30 AM
1

I mean, if you have kids at all... you're basically taking a huge gamble that the woman is going to stay faithful to you for at least 18 years. That's a long time for a woman to not fuck around. It's pretty much impossible. And if/when she does, and you catch her. You've got two choices. Either cuck yourself and let it continue, or confront her about it, which is going to blow up into your face. If you're married this will end in divorce, because confronting her about cheating will be seen as "c…
/r/MGTOW22/01/19 01:21 AM
1

I'm glad you decided this was a bad idea, because it is. There is no reason to bring this out into the open. Not only is the political climate fucked right now, it also doesn't concern anyone else. It's not any of their business. That's like saying, "Hey mom, dad, I just wanted to let you know... brace yourselves for this, I don't know how you'll take it... I've decided I'm not going to buy a pickup truck, they're just not for me". It's a personal decision that doesn't really effect anyone but y…
/r/MGTOW21/01/19 08:07 AM
21

Nose hair removers that look like lipstick so they don't look like nose hair removers, equipped with flashlights and sparkle covered pink paint, that get sold on late night infomercials. Fake eyelashes that you get to glue onto your natural eyelashes, because I guess having longer eyelashes is important to civilization. Weird scented shit you put into the bathtub that fizzles and releases chemicals that smell vaguely like different flowers and food products. It really wouldn't surprise me if som…
/r/MGTOW21/01/19 07:47 AM
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This has been my take on him. You'll never find a perfect ally. I've taken quite a bit of pride in the fact that many of my contributions here have been well received over the years -and surprisingly, even over a couple of different accounts when I've burned them for security purposes, to the point that I've had several guys reach out to me for guidance and wisdom for whatever that might be worth. I never claim to have all of the answers, but I try to keep a cool and level head about things as b…
/r/MGTOW21/01/19 07:43 AM
0

They can't even define "toxic masculinity" when put on the spot and asked. The supposed experts in gender.
/r/MGTOW21/01/19 05:27 AM
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Every person who has come out in support of the Gillette ad has missed the point and argument entirely. Nobody is saying that being a decent human being is bad. I mean, sure you might have a mixture of responses in terms of how for or against some of the actual content of the message is -but nobody is saying, "Gee, we all want to be rapists, leave us alone, Gillette!" The argument has been, and will remain, that it's demonizing men in a sweeping and overreaching way, acting as if this is some ra…
/r/MGTOW21/01/19 05:26 AM
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Excellent post.
/r/MGTOW21/01/19 04:52 AM
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Been there too many times to not get it. Never again.
/r/MGTOW21/01/19 04:19 AM
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Have you tried simply asking for their requests in an email or in writing? Tell them you've got a lot on your mind right now, and you want to be sure that you're doing exactly what they wanted, so just to be sure you aren't going to misremember or forget it or anything, you'd like it in an email. You don't generally have to explain it out that far, just ask for it in an email. If they ask you why, explain it like that. Generally, though, that documentation isn't going to be looked at by your imm…
/r/MGTOW20/01/19 11:08 PM
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I'm totally fine with this, to be honest, and have been aware of it for some time. I've actually been pretty open with people about being an asshole -to the point of actually using the word asshole so that I set proper expectations. Most people actually seem to respect it. Some are naturally put off, but probably 70% are like "huh, well at least you're honest, I can respect that" and we get along pretty much okay. I realized a long time ago that having morals and self respect made you an asshole…
/r/MGTOW20/01/19 01:10 PM
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Sometimes you just have to oil the machine, man. Nobody here would think less of you for doing that, because at the end of the day, you're going under the radar and making sure that you're taking care of yourself. You have to do whatever you have to do in a rigged system. If it's set up to only accept one answer, then give it the one answer it seeks. That's not learning, but that's also what many of the education systems are becoming unfortunately. You'll probably have to look elsewhere to get a…
/r/MGTOW20/01/19 12:22 PM
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Sadly this seems to be the case. I wouldn't be surprised to hear of some idiot trying to say a student is harassing one of them by following option 1. It really would not surprise me at all. At this point, it's basically standard operating procedure.
/r/MGTOW20/01/19 12:17 PM
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I'll tell you that as you get older, you definitely appreciate it more. And then you'll start to experience something I've yet to put an official name to.. The best thing I've come up with so far would be something like "post thinking it through clarity" or something. Where even if you're MGTOW, even if you're monk... you still sometimes get the creeping thought of "what if".. you'll meet that one woman, who you weren't even looking for. You'll randomly have one come into your life that has that…
/r/MGTOW20/01/19 12:16 PM
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Yep. I mean, at the end of the day, sexual urges are hardwired into our very being for the purpose of reproducing. That should be obvious to any idiot out there. It's a bunch of biochemical interactions going on that give you short term pleasure in order to make you do it. Because really, if it wasn't so pleasurable, we probably wouldn't even bother unless you just really, really wanted a screaming toddler and child support. I don't think people realize just how many pregnancies are unplanned an…
/r/MGTOW20/01/19 11:04 AM
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I think if you were to bring that up to the feminist creator of that ad, she'd probably hamster so hard, the hamster would have an aneurysm and she'd pound you too out of petty revenge.
/r/MGTOW20/01/19 10:50 AM
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Then you get to watch the hamster engage warp drive and accelerate right into a black hole. It's actually pretty glorious, especially when they're a toxic cunt.
/r/MGTOW20/01/19 09:42 AM
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It's a common grammatical error. Phonetically it's close enough to be an understandable mistake. Don't beat yourself up man.
/r/MGTOW20/01/19 09:16 AM
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There's a little bit of sarcasm in my post, but if I'm being honest with myself I felt a little shitty. The post itself is legit 100% honest, that happened on my way home from hanging out with some friends. It's not some facetious meme or greentext. I mean, even though I felt a little shitty about doing that, given I've stopped to help people in the past regardless of who they are... I feel like that's something I'm going to stop doing. I'm likely going to stop helping just about anybody, due to…
/r/MGTOW20/01/19 08:51 AM
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Is it possible there are promotional opportunities you both were going to be eligible for? This is another common tactic of eliminating competition. Doesn't matter what the outcome was for her -either you fell for it, fucked her and then she poundmetoo'd you, or you didn't fall for it, and she's now creepyguy'ing you and trying to destroy your reputation. Entirely possible that's not the case, but it's extremely common.
/r/MGTOW19/01/19 04:01 AM
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You see, that won't matter then. They'll conveniently and silently present a birth certificate to get out of it. Then, once they're back in the safety of hiding behind a keyboard again, they'll just resume whatever made up bullshit they were pretending to be. That's how all that shit works. It's only real so long as they are safe, wealthy, and secure enough to keep the charade up. The very moment any sort of reality kicks in, they drop the act and expect everyone to allow them to have it both wa…
/r/MGTOW19/01/19 03:32 AM
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Do you mean to tell me, that I've been lied to? That the only way for me to be a strong man is to wear my pants around my knees, and if some passerby looks at me wrong, I have to get butthurt and harass them? That I'm supposed to start circling them on the sidewalk while repeating myself, verbatim, using the same cadence and pitch, over and over? Boy you better not be looking at my girl that way Boy you better not be looking at my girl that way Boy you better not be looking at my girl that way B…
/r/MGTOW17/01/19 10:31 PM
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The ole tin percolator I have, that used to belong to my grandfather, that has about 50 years worth of coffee flavoring ingrained into it, works just fine atop my gas range in the mornings. I see no reason to step one foot inside of a coffee shop when a couple scoops from bulk coffee makes perfectly good black java. Coffee isn't supposed to be fancy and milky and full of sugar and other soy bullshit. It's supposed to be hard, black, and bitter. The way the gods intended.
/r/MGTOW14/01/19 01:29 AM
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They're never happy though. They get bored and think it's the end of the world. As if boredom in and of itself is some catastrophe that must be avoided at all costs. They absolutely cannot deal with solitude and isolation. Peace and quiet are a virtue, at least to men. With women, you leave them alone for two hours and they start having panic attacks. The very second they get married into their "retirement plan" they'll get bored and start monkey branching into something new and exciting. Every.…
/r/MGTOW13/01/19 03:08 AM
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And even that's not good enough any longer. Because apparently even that's not fair and is oppressive, hence the push into the workforce. Where they're trying to do the exact same thing, but at the office. Most of them have succeeded, too. They show up, do fuck all work, start drama, take credit for other peoples work, and get paid. Then, when they get bored, or enough people figure out what they're actually up to, they'll quit or go somewhere else. But of course, it'll be some excuse, they'll n…
/r/MGTOW13/01/19 03:05 AM
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It's very easy to stay away For some, yes, for others, not so much. When I was younger, and less experienced it was hard as fuck to keep out of a relationship. I felt like I needed it, like I wasn't complete or a real man if I wasn't dating someone. And as they turned sour, and you hear the same shit over and over, "it's not you, it's me" or "we're just friends, I don't know why you're getting upset! I only sucked his dick once and didn't even like it!" or any of the other bullshit excuses, you …
/r/MGTOW13/01/19 02:48 AM
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God, that's the dream man. I'm a little over half way there, but fortunately I work in a field that I absolutely love, and it keeps me travelling and out in the wilderness for extended periods of time. It pays somewhat decent, and over time, I should be able to scratch out my own little piece. I don't need much. I just want a small wooded lot, away from people. Small living space, big work space. Big sky. Quiet. I'm pretty close to that now, honestly. And what I don't personally own, I make up f…
/r/MGTOW12/01/19 09:01 PM
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You don't even need to justify the whole, "I have no issues getting dates". These people are meaningless, and their opinions are even less than that. Just ignore them. Remember, a whole hell of a lot of the ones who spend their time going through peoples post history, are the same ones who are mods, or wish they could be mods, or are a fanboy of some mod. They're pathetic creatures who have no social lives and exist entirely on the internet. You owe them nothing. Let them go through your post hi…
/r/MGTOW12/01/19 08:58 PM
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Mhmm, I think about this kind of stuff a lot. It intrigues the hell out of me. I don't pretend to understand fuck all about any of it, but I do like thinking about it. And looking at the night sky. Actually, going out on a mountain in some wilderness, and laying out under the stars, just pondering on it all... it gives me some peace and solace. It makes this rat race seem far and distant and inconsequential. It makes it seem like none of the trivial bullshit matters, because realistically, it do…
/r/MGTOW12/01/19 08:51 PM
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Yea, I'm right there with ya'. Most guys do have something like that. Although, I think a lot of the simps just happen to describe their aesthetic as "does it have a vagina?". I also was never interested in the "model" look. I mean, it's somewhat pleasant on the eyes, meaning, it's not outright disgusting or repulsive to me. It doesn't make me feel ill looking at it, but it also never really did anything for me. Swimsuit models, playboy models.. The ultra fit with tons of makeup and bleached hai…
/r/MGTOW12/01/19 08:48 PM
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This is a sarcastic play on what has become the millennial woman in today's climate.
/r/MGTOW12/01/19 06:19 PM
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If that's true, that's just as fucked up as the whole divorce raping thing itself. If they're really trying to insulate half of their wealth, that was gained through insider trading, they both need to get fucked.
/r/MGTOW12/01/19 06:13 PM
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My brother's wife was talking about this today, hahahahaha
/r/MGTOW12/01/19 05:58 PM
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This. I've experienced ego death. It changed my life. I had that happen with mushrooms.
/r/MGTOW11/01/19 03:22 PM
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If you want to watch them go fucking insane, don't tell them about the ole' snip until after you've fucked them. Watch the whole act drop and the mask come off at light speed. All of the bullshit you've been fed, all of the lies, will explode into a dumpster fire of anxiety, anger, regret, and helplessness. I've seen it happen. Once that clock starts to go off, they'll stop at nothing to get a baby, even if they've sworn their entire lives that they'll never want kids. They'll become so desperat…
/r/MGTOW10/01/19 11:21 PM
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Gotta fill the holes in your life and compensate for the crippling insecurities somehow, I guess. I'll never understand it though, how becoming some nobody mod on a nowhere subreddit means jack shit, but they still somehow end up with an entourage and group of fanboys. That's true of pretty much any place on the internet. They run these little circles like they're king of the castle, until the drama boils over and everyone gets butthurt. It's pathetic. I've long held that view. Being in a positi…
/r/MGTOW10/01/19 11:16 PM
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It doesn't even take marriage for this to happen. Nor a relationship. This is one of the reasons guys get frustrated with working alongside women in a lot of fields. They slide in on quotas, lock down leadership through manipulation, and then just take credit for everyone else's work. It's fairly common to see them outright steal work, and then give a smug grin in a "what are you going to do about it" sort of way, because they know that nothing will be done -in fact, they'll be praised for it ev…
/r/MGTOW10/01/19 12:56 AM
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Wisdom refers to much more than intelligence or even critical thinking, as I've come to learn over the years. When I was younger, I used to conflate wisdom with being smart. Yes, intelligence is a part of it. So is critical thinking. But wisdom is also a combination of experiences that have been analyzed through the scope of the aforementioned qualities. Wisdom is when you can look back and say, "yea, that didn't work, and here's why, so from now on, this will be my response". It's not something…
/r/MGTOW10/01/19 12:52 AM
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All of the activist types are only truly in it to get a whiff of pussy. They think its virtue signaling to their crush, who just happened to be part of the activist group before he joined up. Typically these dudes are pretty young and super inexperienced and dont know any better. They're BP simps who arecoming of age, who are lost in the world because they didn't have a lot of male role models, or not one newer enough in age to guide them. They usually get frustrated after all of the drama and l…
/r/MGTOW09/01/19 01:06 PM
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That bitch wants to get her hands on all our wallets And they will largely succeed, too. Unless you're wealthy enough to not have to work, and even then you might not be safe. What will happen, is they'll once again weaponize the IRS against the people. These sick fuckrods will decide they only have to use existing mechanisms in place to take more of our money. My guess is the first large deductions will come in the form of income tax. They'll raise up to levels that rival Canada or worse. And t…
/r/MGTOW08/01/19 10:00 AM
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Honestly even if this information were to become widespread and blasted all over every single news outlet around, nothing would change. Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if it got worse for men. Western civilization is in its death throes. This is the kind of shit that happens as a society crashes and burns. MGTOW is the natural phenomenon. We are starting to see "the beautiful ones", from Dr. Calhoun's mouse utopia experiment. We're fucked. Nothing will change. The morons who have created this will…
/r/MGTOW08/01/19 12:53 AM
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You see, this is where I agree with "right to work" laws, even though they are never utilized in the way they should be. If you have an incompetent employee, or one that nobody can stand -or both, then just tell them to fuck off. No harm, no foul. If you're in a "right to work" state, an employer can let you go for literally any reason, so long as it isn't solely for belonging to a protected class. But they're all too pussy to actually do it, because they're afraid of getting sued. There is no r…
/r/MGTOW08/01/19 12:43 AM
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Just pointing out that you're largely preaching to deaf ears. Reddit is a progressive echo chamber full of snowflakes. Do your own thing, not judging or saying that you arent allowed to do that or anything. Just an observation.
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 01:39 PM
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Commenting to save link
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 01:14 PM
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Yep. It's as if they think they're some unique snowflake by having anxiety and depression. EVERYONE has anxiety. Most of everyone has depression at least at some point. A good fucking chunk of people have both. It's called life. But they can't cope and instead lock themselves in their basement holes while eating prescription medications and sucking down liquor, expecting it to change. Men and women alike. They're snowflakes of the highest order when they claim anxiety and/or depression are why t…
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 12:41 PM
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I've thought that, but I dont know how it will work for jointly filing people. Then again I'm not a tax guru. My best guess will be universities that have been open to everyone, will start being female only. That's where most of the social cancer comes from anyway, so its logical to me that the next "big" pile of horse shit comes from there. Wouldn't surprise me at all if some well known law school decides men are no longer welcome.
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 12:25 PM
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They did, to my knowledge. That's what I meant with the lawsuits. The school, parents, everyone. I dont know about the school at all, but the rumor was the kids parents who got sued just settled out of court to make it disappear. These were the wealthy gated community kids doing this. Their parents very obviously had more than enough money to pay off the boys family.
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 12:07 PM
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I believe in that 110%. There is no shame in being true and honest, with sharing your weaknesses through candor. My personal code says that humility and the ability to be openly honest about your own shortcomings , and being able and willing to eat crow when you're wrong, are imperative to being a man. And as men, we need to learn from each other and build one another up. I'm glad to have these discussions here. It helps me, too.
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 12:05 PM
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Like other dudes have said, I can pretty much understand where you are coming from. It is true, that when you gain more people involved in something, you can get some poor quality morons fucking things up. That part I agree with. There are some toxic ass incels that come here now. I mean, I dont fault them for being incels, but the attitude that comes with it is not what MGTOW is about, but they still come here. So on that we agree. But the larger picture is that MGTOW isn't some organization or…
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 11:56 AM
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My personal opinion is that we cannot simultaneously live as animals, acting on our most base desires, and continue civilization. We figured out a long time ago that the only way society and civilization works, I'd if we constrain ourselves. Monogamy was the compromise that worked for the social contract. It wasn't perfect, but it kept a big majority of people relatively happy. At least enough to continue on building and maintaining our world. We are indeed animals. We naturally want a mate. Wit…
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 11:19 AM
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Yep. These circles are needed for both men and women. People need their in-group spaces. We are social creatures and that's just our nature. Back in the days before time, do you think men hung around with women in their hunting parties? Or do you think women kept men around making clothing? Fuck no, those were sacred times for each gender to be with each other. Not s lot has changed really. We still need these spaces. But you know, that's not PC.
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 08:56 AM
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Sure you can. Although, these days, most people arent going to make enough money to really get by very easily until they're in their mid 30s. Most go to college in order to get into a field they want, but end up with tons of debt that holds them back. You just have to choose the right path. If you want a house earlier in life, and havent fucked your credit, learn a trade and dedicate a few years to busting ass. Then build a home while busting ass s few more years while paying it down. Then sell …
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 08:01 AM
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Uhh, okay. I think maybe you missed the point in my sarcasm and pointing out absurdities that take place in our current system. Or maybe you hit reply to the wrong comment or something.
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 07:49 AM
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This was posted the other day, I'll reiterate what the sentiment there was: Lets not be quick to jump down the throat of his memory. This boy was a child. Very likely raised by a single mother, or if he DID have a father, he was a cuck. This was a failure in parenting. This was the failure of the system to allow boys to become men. This poor boy was bathed in the proverbial soy from birth. He never learned the error of his ways and didn't know anything else. Stockholm syndrome, if you will. When…
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 06:44 AM
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Kinda sorta. In my younger days, when I was a BP cuck who favored liberalism, back when I was blind, dumb, and arrogant, I would have straight up said I was an atheist. Now, it's not so much that I started believing or something, I'm just not so arrogant as to claim I understand the universe. Nobody does. We dont know what the fuck life or even consciousness is. Our best guess is a bunch of random shit happened, to where elements came together out of nothing and over billions of years, formed or…
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 06:37 AM
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I'm not 100% sure, because I never really frequented that subreddit, but I think it was removed around the summer if I recall correctly. Maybe a little earlier. I do think it was last year. And just like that, it has been quietly purged like it never existed. You obviously didn't even notice. That's how efficient they've become at making things not exist. People who get too loud about it being removed, get removed. 1984, man. And to think, people used to call me crazy even just 3 or 4 years ago …
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 06:12 AM
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It won't be for much longer. It's getting too popular. This place will never hit 200k subs. I hope I am wrong, truly. But I doubt it. They'll take it down. Then feminism will still be up. Same concept. What will happen, is they cited some obscure policy about being in compliance with EU "hate speech" law, which will only require them to make a sick puppet account, post a bunch of extremist rhetoric in here -and even if that account gets immediately banned, they'll go "look guys!! See?? Theres ha…
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 05:58 AM
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No they won't, they'll just flirt their way into having some fucboi do her job. And if that doesn't work, she'll just complain about harassment and get ole Ronald McD so legally locked down they will be terrified of doing anything but giving her a check. If push comes to shove, that's always what they do. If they end up facing having to actually do anywork, it always comes down to that. Until this whole legal system of PC bullshit, AA and protected classes gets upheaved, it won't end. In fact, i…
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 05:39 AM
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This dude is a wise man. Very good watch, I greatly enjoyed it. Hes on a good path. So many great points I dont even know where to begin. I like how he points out that we live in the age of information, and the truth is literally right there for you to find. But the curators dont like that. They only want you to buy into their curated and approved content. This is why people get deplatformed. It doesn't go through the whole ritual of asking the masters for permission. Here's the cool thing about…
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 04:24 AM
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Yea man, I'm always interested in learning something new. And I feel like its important for guys here to build each other up. I am happy that you have an interest that makes you tick, so yea, please explain some more of it. I am genuinely interested in hearing about your hobby.
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 02:42 AM
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I honestly dont even know what this is. Sounds like you're interested in it, care to share your interest.
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 02:35 AM
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Remember the points that Huxley made in Brave New World: when a society loses liberty by means of personal freedoms and security, sexual liberation typically increases to counter balance. When a society becomes sexually degenerate, it is an I education of how totalitarian their governing forces have become. The guy hit so many nails on the head, it was scary.
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 02:19 AM
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I imagine it's pretty miserable to sit there and get salty that people are happy. I mean, if you're unhappy that people are happy, what the fuck are you doing with your life? So many women are guilty of this, because they are so shallow and vapid that they have no interests or hobbies outside of reality TV and sexually competing with their "friends". They cannot get happiness from a truck club or hiking or a gaming group, because they are too simple and hollow to enjoy that stuff. If it's not ab…
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 02:12 AM
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I'll never understand these posts. They happen in other subs, too. Basically, whatever the subs content is, some hater of that content just cannot stand the fact that it even exists, and is drawn to spend insane amounts of time lurking and getting more salty. Then they eventually post this shit, as if they were forced to be there, like someone is making them read the content they hate so much. Like, I just dont get it. You're free to leave. There's nothing making you come in here and post, excep…
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 01:48 AM
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Translation: I have no real value in my life, to the point I have to inflate my ego by means of false pretenses. I only want a provider who is willing to pay for everything and commit to me 100%, while I sit at home gettinng fat and bored. I will not put out whatsoever, at least not for my provider, because that's strictly reserved for the bad boy alpha I keep hoping will come along, who I'll leave you for only to come crawling back within two weeks. Oh, and you'll have to sign the birth certifi…
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 12:48 AM
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I understand that, I am being facetious and exaggerating to illustrate how insane these people are. It's not just women, either. So many people rely on a "pick me up" in the form of a pill to function, its scary. Many of them are not even very well understood with long term effects. Like, are we creating serial killers with those cocktails? Seems like women are more likely than men to be on handfuls of that garbage, too. Their neuroticism created instability.
/r/MGTOW03/01/19 11:37 AM
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I legit lol'd, because how far have we fallen as a society when an entire gender has become such a caricature of themselves that such a thing is actually feasible.
/r/MGTOW03/01/19 07:39 AM
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Lol, no thanks, hollyweird is part of the cultural problem we have in the west.
/r/MGTOW03/01/19 02:09 AM
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For a lot of them, the male attention takes a deep dive off the cliff once they become a single mother. Obviously they still have thirsty simps all up in their shit, but it's not the male attention they want. So they go from being bukkaked with attention from the time they wake up until they pass out from the come/booze benders, to the "where did all the good men go" dry as fuck desert post-single-mother. So they need to compensate somehow. If they can't get it from the dudes they want, they qui…
/r/MGTOW03/01/19 01:38 AM
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I've held this belief for some time now. The urban centers are shitholes. Politics have now become urban vs. rural at the very core of all debates. Morality is contrasted between urban and rural. This one distinction transcends all demographics, too. Race, gender, religion etc. are all affected by the urban/rural paradigm. They're hell bent on shoving their beliefs and failed policies down everyone else's throats, too, while screaming that the urban mindset is the only correct one. While being s…
/r/MGTOW03/01/19 01:25 AM
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Government sanctioned retribution for every perceived slight throughout their entire lives incoming in 3...2...1... I am certain there are a some who will do a good job, but it stands to reason that there is some identity politics fuckery afoot. Imagine if there was an article praising a state for hiring 17 white male judges. Everyone would lose their minds. Justice is supposed to be blind, so it's no surprise that our system is so fucked when we have to play identity politics in fucking everyth…
/r/MGTOW03/01/19 01:11 AM
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I will never understand the attraction to makeup and fake appearances. I mean, u realize females often compete with one another by using them -but that has to come from somewhere. I was always more attracted to a more conventional and "average" look. I never had a thing for "superstar" or "model" looks. Instead, I preferred a real, and simple average look. Just normal. Nothing more or less. The makeup and associated bullshit always kills it. Even these days with just a pump and dump -I can't do …
/r/MGTOW03/01/19 12:42 AM
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She's salty about being fuckzoned
/r/MGTOW30/12/18 09:41 PM
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Also, nobody is forcing them into college, save for the marxists trying to brainwash them into thinking they have to. I have a college education. It's actually in a technical field with specialty focus. Even at that, some days I kick myself in the ass for not learning a trade when I was young enough to start out on the right foot. Nobody "needs" college -especially to the point you turn to prostitution if you can't afford it. That's one of the major problems with western society. We fucked our e…
/r/MGTOW27/12/18 08:27 AM
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I study behavioral psychology as a hobby/side interest in my own time. I started looking into it as a way to understand and overcome a lot of the hardships I faced early in my life. You're correct. More than you know. My brothers and I were put through the ringer from an early age. I started studying to see what was really going in. They just cope. I've tried explaining it to them and bringing them I to the light, but as with MGTOW in general: you can only lead a horse to water. U til someone ma…
/r/MGTOW25/12/18 08:23 AM
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I have no doubt that you know what you're talking about. I also have no doubt you are mostly correct. I have also seen, first hand, cases where that's not the case. Now does that mean that company was retarded and walking a line right on the edge of being sued into oblivion? Absolutely it does. Did they care? No. I've personally seen it happen where a dude was completely and totally shit on for bringing this up, in an environment that's totally run by the people who do everything in their power …
/r/MGTOW25/12/18 07:56 AM
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Which is why we go our own way. You remove them from your life and you don't have to deal with as much of it. Only at work or in public, and even then you can minimize it.
/r/MGTOW25/12/18 04:59 AM
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This is becoming more mainstream. Women, feminists in particular, have gone over the top with their behavior. They've overplayed the fucking shit out of their hands. There is now a wave of push-back coming. There's always going to be the white knight neckbeard apologists, but the vast majority of regular dudes are waking up. Sometime around 2012 or so things shifted. Then, by around 2015 or 2016, they doubled down so fucking hard it created a ripple throughout pretty much all of society. Now, wo…
/r/MGTOW25/12/18 04:37 AM
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That's a big part of it for me. I mean, there are lots of other reasons, but that's definitely a part of it. The times in my life where I've really got my shit together, where I'm making/saving money, I've got a nice car, all of my shit is perfectly clean/organized, my job is going really well, my friends groups are really active, when I'm hitting the gym on a daily basis -that's when they come knocking at the door. When I rise into that 20% group, when I become noticeable, when I become a targe…
/r/MGTOW25/12/18 04:18 AM
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"Those chemicals are unsafe, they might uncover my infidelity and expose my lying, throw it away"
/r/MGTOW25/12/18 01:35 AM
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You know, for a cause to have the title "feminism" they spend a suspicious amount of time worrying about what men are doing, while trying to look, act, and demand the respect of being a man. It's almost like "feminism" is nothing more than, "We-want-to-be-men-so-bad-it-fucking-kills-us-ism"
/r/MGTOW25/12/18 01:03 AM
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I hear all the dudes there have privilege over the women. I'm sure she can fight injustices and prevail at the end of the day! They'll probably give her a trophy for being so brave!
/r/MGTOW25/12/18 01:00 AM
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Unfortunately that's probably coming if things keep escalating. Eventually, they're going to do it to some motherfucker who's already unstable. You see, when you randomly decide to destroy some dude, because feminism said you deserve that kind of retribution over some perceived inequality... you're running the risk of fucking with the kind of dude you shouldn't fuck with. As we see more and more of this, it's coming. It shouldn't happen, we should never even have to consider it -but at the rate …
/r/MGTOW22/12/18 02:26 AM
3

Yep, absolutely right. Contrary to what people might think, HR is not there to solve disputes or protect anyone from harassment. Unless, as stated, you're a female -and then they only do so to protect against her suing the company.
/r/MGTOW21/12/18 08:50 PM
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Pretty much. It's gotten insane to the point going to work is like dodging landmines. The good news is, you can use the very same policies the feminists and SJWs have demanded we create, against them. That THOT who's rising up the professional ladder by sleeping around/manipulating simps through sexuality? Document. That hug you saw her give someone? Document, photograph if possible. As insane as it sounds, even an innocent hug can be seen as sexual harassment in most places, even if the person …
/r/MGTOW21/12/18 04:15 AM
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No problem man, I occasionally spend a few hours on here. Sometime I do so regularly, other times I disappear for awhile. But when I am on here, I try to have a level headed discussion with guys who come in here. My thought is that if I'm able to help even one dude open his eyes, and potentially save him from a lot of heartache, the effort is worth it. Maybe society will swing back the other direction. If it truly does, I'll be the first to come in out of the cold. But I'm not naive enough to fa…
/r/MGTOW21/12/18 03:53 AM
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Remember that all of this is subjective -so it's mostly just our experiences, you should still weigh them with your own. The first thing I think about with having a child, is what kind of world they're going to be living in. Would I want to grow up in that kind of dystopia, if given the choice? As for relationships failing, if you stick around here enough, you'll start to put some pieces of the puzzle together, like so many guys before you have. A lot of these failures end up being blamed on a l…
/r/MGTOW21/12/18 03:37 AM
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I'm a huge Floyd fan, and have been for years. One of the first bands I really got into as a teenager. They were a little behind my time, but it's a groove I can tune into anytime.
/r/MGTOW21/12/18 03:21 AM
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Yep, and even if none of that goes down, we are still very much in a terrible decline that has so many parallels to the fall of the Roman Empire, it's insane. Stefan Molyneux has a very good lecture on that. It's shocking how easily current society is making the same mistakes. There's not a very bright future ahead, but that doesn't mean you can't take a light heart and try to enjoy life. MGTOW is, after all, taking a path to happiness and enlightenment in a fucked up world. The world might be f…
/r/MGTOW21/12/18 03:18 AM
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I'm in agreement with all of that. The world is on the cusp of being fucked several different ways. If it's not giant meteors, it's disease. If it's none of those, it's climate or political fuckery. I think most people are in denial about it, though, and tell themselves we're totally fine. This is probably why I don't go straight up prepper and dig out a bunker -it's largely useless. I think setting yourself up to be fairly self-sufficient, learning some skills that can help you survive, and jus…
/r/MGTOW21/12/18 02:52 AM
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You might be a decade or two behind the time, actually, if current trends are indicative of things to come. Boys aren't being told to grow into becoming strong men; boys are being told they are toxic for having too much energy. Boys are being told they do not get recess, because they're just disruptive. Boys aren't told not to show signs of weakness -instead, they are encouraged to be weak little soylets, because anything to the contrary is not fair to women. They're expected to have an upper ar…
/r/MGTOW21/12/18 02:17 AM
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You will likely end up getting some dudes in here calling you a tradcuck and telling you to take this elsewhere, because it's not some woman-bashing narrative, and has a political tone. Let's go right ahead and clear that up right now -I absolutely believe this sort of thing belongs here, and I'm glad to entertain discussion on it. The fact of the matter is, you've nailed a very real point in stating that MGTOW is essentially censored. This is political in nature, by the very virtue that marxism…
/r/MGTOW21/12/18 01:57 AM
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As another dude here said -men generally have more of a sense of duty. I absolutely agree with that. I think a whole shit load of it can be boiled down to that, basically. It comes down to the ability to feel a need to serve vs. a sense of entitlement. Herd mentality of "what's the best for me?" vs. selfless reflection in "what can I do to serve the greater good?" Men feel a need to provide some larger benefit to society as a whole, out of some dutiful obligation that exists ontologically instea…
/r/MGTOW21/12/18 01:22 AM
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This has been a policy that has served me well. It's easy to get caught up in hatred over injustices, but running out and going crazy over it is the same bullshit the SJWs do. They want to scream at the sky and make an ass of themselves, because they feel like something isn't fair, and the only way they know how to deal with it is to make absurd claims and act out petty revenge fantasies. This is why the antifa morons stand on street corners shouting about oppression and how terrible capitalism …
/r/MGTOW21/12/18 12:59 AM
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But how does that help her establish a narrative that casts him in a negative light and takes the attention off of her infidelity that caused the breakup in the first place? How does that help prevent the anxiety she gets from people judging her for her shitty behavior? None of that benefits her in any way, because unless it's protecting her imagine as some pristine and shining example of virtue and victim-hood , it's not helpful.
/r/MGTOW21/12/18 12:43 AM
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This only applies when there aren't double standards. What happens when you DO make these claims, and the place is so far up a vagina they believe it is absolutely impossible for any woman to do anything wrong, and do not listen -or worse, fire you for bringing it up? The same is true of the organizations and enforcement agencies that are supposedly there to arbitrate for equal opportunity. They're only interested in a case that is against a woman or a minority. Anything else is simply "c'mon no…
/r/MGTOW21/12/18 12:38 AM
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When you unmask someone for who they truly are, by bringing up concerns to your peers, a lot of shit can go wrong. This is especially true if that person happens to be female. Generally you want to collect evidence and keep a running catalog of proof, but you only bring that shit out once you've accepted a new job. That way, you don't have to hold back on burning that whole situation to the fucking ground. It's the nuclear option. You lay it out in the open for everyone to see, including things …
/r/MGTOW21/12/18 12:30 AM
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This is so fucking true it hurts. Everyone wants things as quickly as they can get search results on their smartphones. Nobody has patience any longer. Doesn't matter if the job actually takes 5 months, realistically, they want it by the end of the week.
/r/MGTOW21/12/18 12:15 AM
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This is far more common than you think. Conniving bitches not only taking credit for a man's work, but going so far as to tell everyone you don't know what you're doing, and she was the only one who did, to make herself look good and to keep anyone from finding out she's secretly incompetent. If everyone is talking about how much of a retard you are, none of them will talk about whatever she can't do. So many dudes believe that shit, too, because of their white knight/simp delusions. They automa…
/r/MGTOW20/12/18 12:54 AM
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I honestly get sick and tired of hearing about it. Seems like such a common "go to" argument as to why women are so awesome. "Well, we do the same job guys do, BUT WE HAVE PERIODS!" Not only that, but I find it highly unprofessional and extremely disgusting to inject that into any conversation that doesn't explicitly begin with the intention of talking about female reproductive systems. "Yea, Jerry, we need those shipments done by Friday... Julie, can you help make that happen?" followed by, "PE…
/r/MGTOW20/12/18 12:16 AM
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I got into this a few years back. Still do it from time to time. I've made a handful of holsters that earned a few bucks. It's a fun hobby, and can be rewarding. The biggest hurdle, as I found, was the cost of building your tool collection. Once you start getting into stamps, dies, and all of the little tools for specific purposes, it adds up rather quickly. If you're looking to incorporate any fittings for aesthetics, that also starts to add up a little. Overall, though, if you start with just …
/r/MGTOW20/12/18 12:08 AM
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I've taken to writing over the years. I always sort of liked literary arts in back in high school, but I started to really enjoy it around the time I was ~21 or 22. Then I practiced through blogs, eventually went to college and got a little better. Naturally, I continued to practice and ended up with a few publications. To this day I still enjoy it. This sub ends up being an outlet for me a lot, for both writing and expressing frustrations with modern society. And honestly it didn't take a whole…
/r/MGTOW20/12/18 12:04 AM
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I appreciate that my man, if even one person feels like they've made some connection here, then the time I spend writing is worth it.
/r/MGTOW19/12/18 11:58 PM
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It absolutely is selfish. It's off-putting to the point I don't know why anyone would want to be in a relationship with someone like that from the get go. Of course, a lot of them are chameleons who do a good job of hiding in plain sight until they've got you hooked. Just another reason MGTOW exists -dudes getting burned by shitty people over and over until they finally throw their hands up in the air and say fuck it all. This way of life pisses some people off, for whatever reason. People get u…
/r/MGTOW19/12/18 11:47 PM
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You're pretty close, and I think a lot of us see that as well. The issues I would take with that, is that not everyone in the US is actually a fragile cuck. Sure, tons of people are, but there are also some dudes who are a cut above. There's a new phenomenon of people "homesteading", which is building up a home on a piece of property, and becoming self-sufficient through alternate power sources, water sources, growing food etc. Most of the people who are into that, are the furthest thing from fr…
/r/MGTOW19/12/18 10:34 PM
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This is currently plaguing a number of different industries, and it's not always just women they're talking about. People and organizations that are so caught up in "diversity" are creating problems where none exist, because they think the only possible explanation that there aren't enough women or whatever minority they're crusading for, is that there must be sexism or racism. They are creating problems solely so they have something to fix, when if they'd do five minutes of research, they might…
/r/MGTOW19/12/18 03:31 AM
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Yep. And these places would be extremely lucky if the dude hasn't at that point, been the sole proprietor of some critical system or process. They've allowed him to keep up with the "boring shit" because he's the only one who knows how to do it, and the only one who will put in the work required for it, while everyone else was too busy fucking each other over and playing house on the clock to be bothered with anything that's actually work related. Then, once he decides to either jump ship or bec…
/r/MGTOW19/12/18 03:23 AM
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That's already happening. Once they make it to the five year mark with an organization, and/or start to climb up the ladder, they're under more pressure. Not that people really do anything at their jobs these days -it's all a social club. But they do end up getting more people to deal with and more things to balance. Once that pressure gets put on them, many can't take it and fold. Generally this is the "I'm starting a family and want to focus on that" excuse, which realistically means they coul…
/r/MGTOW19/12/18 03:13 AM
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The workplace is absolutely under assault by useless people who think they are owed everything under the sun without lifting a finger for it. It started in government jobs, and continues to this day. Now it has hit corporate culture. Nobody has work ethic these days. The only way to get a promotion or to get ahead, is to play the game. Actual work and productivity gets you stuck squarely in whatever position you're in, without a chance for promotion, because you're "too valuable to lose" but als…
/r/MGTOW19/12/18 03:06 AM
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Manipulating the manipulators is a valid tactic, but the second you slip up and they find out your true motivations, they'll have you on a shit list faster than you can imagine. It will be their mission to destroy you and kick you to the curb. If you can maintain the illusion, good on you, I guess. Sometimes, though, you get fed up with the bullshit and let some things slip. That's when they'll get ya'.
/r/MGTOW19/12/18 02:53 AM
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This will start to be more of a thing if employers keep waking up. The process of them opening their eyes has been excruciatingly slow, and most may never -but there are some that have made progress and have gone back to reality in a, "no, we're not doing that, it's stupid as fuck and costs us too much money" sort of way, when these petulant children demand and demand. The problem with HR, is that it's still very much a holdover from the legacy "office" workplace that got big in the 80s and 90s.…
/r/MGTOW19/12/18 02:48 AM
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I think the downvotes probably came from your failure in understanding that I never made the assertion that soy effects T levels. That's simply not true -even soy like edamame that has phytoestrogens doesn't end up working that way. So your mistake was taking a meme literally, which was never meant to be an assertion of any kind, but was instead an insult to the caricature of the modern weakling of a male. Instead of trying to jump down my throat with an attack, perhaps you should have taken a m…
/r/MGTOW17/12/18 01:17 PM
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I'm right there with you. It started at a pretty young age, I remember having a surplus store near home and would occasionally get to go pick up some cool things. In my personal life, I don't wear a lot of it, or even really own a whole lot any longer, but definitely a fan. I think a lot of it subsided -but also became simultaneously more active in some regards, when I entered into a career where you get issued this gear and get to play with cool toys. My plan is to one day have an M35A2 deuce, …
/r/MGTOW17/12/18 02:44 AM
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Definitely agree there. For the OP, the condensed version is if you seeking any sort of LTR for whatever reason, only accept someone who appears to exhibit the following: Positive views about themselves and positive views about others While staying away from anyone who has: Positive views about themselves, but negative views about others Negative views about themselves, but positive views about others Negative views about themselves, and negative views about others You'll be doing yourself a fav…
/r/MGTOW17/12/18 12:59 AM
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THOTTERY exists even on LinkedIn these days. What used to be a professional networking site has turned into a low-key monkey branching resource, instead of something employers actually use. Continue to keep a professional CV and resume that is separate from any of these social media related services. You'll find that networking through traditional means will earn you more respect anyway. Adding a colleague or business acquaintance on some social media site has nowhere near the weight of extendin…
/r/MGTOW17/12/18 12:42 AM
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I notice things that I can't discuss with most others. It can seem maddening sometimes Mhmm, that's true man. Your everyday average social circle will not entertain these ideas, which is why they have flourished in online communities. People find places they can relate to one another, and exchange ideas without the stigma behind them. Anonymity goes a long way in allowing people to have an outlet and refresh their mental state. That probably won't last forever, but it was only natural that these…
/r/MGTOW17/12/18 12:15 AM
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That's the thing that's so weird to me, though, that I can't really reconcile.. what is the actual value of that societal acceptance? If you're harboring wealth and resources for it, then wouldn't that, by virtue of correlation, mean that societal acceptance has a measurable monetary value? I don't think it does -I mean, if it did, then couldn't we just build a global social club where you just buy a membership? Wouldn't we be able to purchase a pass for whatever that value actually is? But at t…
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 11:17 PM
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I think a ton of guys here are pretty much in the same boat. We've all had relationships with women end in resentment, have questioned our self-worth because of it, wondered what we did wrong, why we were defective, only to come to the realization that nothing would have ever been good enough, that this behavior is more common in today's society than we could have ever imagined. You can do literally everything right, provide them with anything they want or claim to want, and still end up in the …
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 10:52 PM
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This place will for sure be targeted, you can be sure of it. So will others. They'll start with quiet removal of content and users. If they can't destroy enough of it without raising an alarm, they'll just slam the whole book shut and toss it in the garbage by way of outright banning of any place that exists that's remotely related to MGTOW. They'll do so until the point you'd have to go very far out of your way, to some obscure place on the internet that has dust collecting on it before you'd b…
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 10:32 PM
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Ask her why none of those five dudes have left their wives for her. Ask her what is keeping them from getting serious with her. Pretend to be ignorantly asking an innocent question. Ask her if she's planning on getting serious with any of them, throw out that at least one of the dudes are a total catch that she'd be retarded to let escape (even if they're not, just throw this out there), and ask what is stopping her from being happy. Then watch the hamster engage warp drive.
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 08:45 PM
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You're right on the money dude. Such a need for validation sets people up to become fragile snowflakes. The unbalanced physical features thing is legit, too. You can utterly decimate a woman's psyche by telling her that her tits are lopsided or her nipples are different sizes. Even if it's true, and even if it's not a big deal, they will spiral down into sheer panic and terror at the notion of you pointing out some possible "defect". Which in and of itself shows how artificial and full of vanity…
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 06:13 PM
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You probably already realize this, from what you've described -but I would wager money on her secretly considering you to have been in a relationship with her. Just not the fucking kind (at least, it never got there). Women love emotional relationships. I honestly think more than sexual relationships -at least as far how she views the person post orgasm compared to the non sexual one. It's the thrill of being inside your head that they love more than just about anything. But they don't want anyo…
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 10:49 AM
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Well, if that's the case and you've eliminated the sexual urges to the point you're infallibly certain it isn't being horny, then I guess your next move is to walk right up to her, sweep her off her feet, and profess how you have never felt this way with anyone in five years. /s Are you sure you aren't looking for someone to tell you what you want to hear? I mean, it seems like you want someone to say, "It's totally fine OP, this just means you've found a unicorn. Pursue it, live long and prospe…
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 10:42 AM
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For most people, breakups are only varying degrees of distance placed between them. When one happens, the distance between those two people will usually grow apart, when the distance between one of them, and some other relationship they already had, will grow closer. People now have no concept of commitment or loyalty, so the sooner you realize that everyone is fucking everyone, and people are in multiple relationships at the same time -even if they don't actually label them as relationships, th…
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 10:21 AM
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How exactly does one demand and actually get such a service provided by the government? I'm not doubting you -I'm just trying to figure out what in the fuck they're doing over there.. Rounding up homeless women and impregnating them in some government run lab? I realize that's a stretch... More likely they're offering cash for anyone willing to do it, at taxpayer expense -so really not that different, just adding in some money. I don't know how much more of this insanity I can take. Honestly, I …
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 10:10 AM
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My brother was showing me something about that on his facebook. One, I don't know why he still bothers with that bullshit, and two, I honestly thought it was clickbait/fake news, but I am not surprised. The fact that it's even on a major news outlet just makes you shake your head, and say under your breath, "of fucking course". The insanity will continue until we crash and burn into a steaming pile of shit. We're beyond unfucking ourselves at this point. Edit: also, the article cites a study tha…
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 08:47 AM
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I don't know if they directly correlate to "small penis", but my..uhh, experiences have led me to believe the following are similar: Pointing out insecurities Pointing out incompetence Pointing out intellectual deficiency Thunderhips Pointing out looking better with long hair/short hair, opposite of whatever trim package is currently equipped Vaginal odor Pointing out daddy issues that have led to her viewing you in a fucked up way Any and all comparisons to another female, in which said female …
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 08:36 AM
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I think you're comfortably on base with time to spare. So many men will give literally everything for sex. They're so insecure with themselves that they will do it for the validation of a mediocre piece of ass. Just imagine what we could achieve if there was a way we could "switch off" the desire, at will, and focus on more important things. Outside of what you said, reproduction and maybe a bit of physical pleasure, it provides no discernible value. Any "feeling" you get is just a chemical cock…
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 08:26 AM
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Sometimes I forget that sarcasm doesn't come across very well on the internet, and drop my /s I was alluding to the hilariously absurd notion that they present in pretending to use "scientific study" to in essence, hamster up more bullshit. These are supposed institutions of higher education, whatever that even means now. Go back to 1982 and ask a 12 year old what the consequences would be for this behavior. They'd be able to save a ton of time and money for the university.
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 08:15 AM
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I think you would be 100% correct in that assessment. We were doing a good job for a long time, but it seems like our technology ended up taking a pretty nasty turn for fucking us up, rather than making us better, and we're seeing the effects of that. Post-scarcity plus straight up cancer of social media and the whole culture that surrounds it, coupled with smartphones and the instantaneous gratification of being interconnected, and we've completely screwed ourselves so hard it's going to take s…
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 08:11 AM
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I'm glad to be of service. I enjoy exchanging ideas with guys on here. It's something that is terribly missed in our society. Seems like men don't exchange deep conversation much any longer. Instead, we take gaping mouth selfies with the nintendo switch our girlfriends boyfriend bought for us and chug some soy to wash down his bull-fluid. This place is a godsend.
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 08:05 AM
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The whole thing is indicative of societal collapse. I think there are far more men out there essentially of the mindset that we are here, even if they don't even know it exists. That said, we still wouldn't come up to anywhere near that 82mil number. I do think it's a symptom of something that is to come, though. Most of the bullshit we're seeing is intentionally manipulated social trends. Look at the last 5 years even. Shadowy forces began to divide us on identity politics in a very nasty way. …
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 07:53 AM
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I'm with ya, man. I use this place as an outlet to get out some frustrations, because it's unhealthy to keep these things internal. And in this society, there are very few places you can vent these things without attracting a horde of transhaired bluegender catlady feminists and their soycuck underlings. Petulant, weak creatures who hold an immense amount of power through sheer appearance of numbers given to them by the media. We live in a world where the silent 90% are ruled by the noisy 10%. I…
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 07:07 AM
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Yep, I think you'll find, if you do a little bit of reading (there are places on reddit for this exact subject), that many people who are able to see the signs of psychopathic narcissism, were in fact raised by them. I know I was. Many others are in the same boat. Most people don't come out "normal" from that. You either turn into one yourself, or you learn to spot the signs and can't go back into the matrix. A lot of this comes down to action, though. Taking your example of bullying, consider t…
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 06:58 AM
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I don't think it's as much of a coincidence as others might have you believe. I also don't think it's 100% directly related with no other external factors. I do, however, share a lot of the agnostic/unsure beliefs, to the point that I don't take any religion as being a word-for-word truth to be taken literally. I believe there were some wise motherfuckers way back in the day, who foresaw this. Much like how the founders of the US foresaw a lot of things. And they made an effort to warn us and in…
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 06:40 AM
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If you want to use my content, be my guest. I'd even happily provide new content. I do, however, exist in a world where I cannot link to this place or these ideas. As much as I agree with you 110%, beyond that even, I am not blessed enough to be independently wealthy, and thus have to pay the bills. In addition, I've worked far too hard, and for far too long to give up what little I've grabbed onto. If the world changes, and we go back to actual sanity, logic, and reason, I'd be happy to come ou…
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 06:27 AM
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"What the fuck are women thinking? Do they really expect a guy to just automatically want to do as they say?" Short answer: yes. You can thank white knights, BP simps, and soycuck orbiters for that one. It is learned behavior. Many of them have never been told no, or faced any kind of rejection their entire lives. Well, at least not until sort of recently with the shifts we're seeing. They have had no experiences to lead them to believe otherwise, so why would they? Have you not always understoo…
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 06:23 AM
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Monogamy doesn't truly exist any longer. I actually have a hard time believing it ever "really" existed, but when we built civilization, we figured out that we have to keep our animal instincts and urges in check, otherwise we tend to fuck it all up. Thus, we erected mechanisms and societal norms that helped us be a polite society, so that we aren't killing each other and pounding the corpse while beating our chests and bearing our teeth. We did this so that we aren't in constant pursuit of friv…
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 06:04 AM
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Most of my shenanigans here end up being long winded. I'm an armchair/hobby sociologist, after studying on why people are such shit all the time, and I've taken to using this place as both an outlet and a muse.
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 05:27 AM
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Yep, this x100. I've seen this multiple times, too. It seems like it ends one of two ways -either they continue to get their way, continue to pave destruction while scooping up every promotion, raise, and opportunity they can imagine, until they're near the top of the food chain. This is when/where they secure some higher paid simp they can lock down, then they mysteriously decide they no longer need to be in the workforce, and become a stay at home deadbeat. -OR- They get found out. People star…
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 04:41 AM
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I get fired up about it and rant far too much. I won't give too much info, for obvious reasons, but I see this happening with my own two eyes. I've seen dudes who have spent 20 years working HARD towards the goal of taking leadership roles, being given more opportunities, and taking that more natural path of work ethic + dedication leading to a fruitful career, who end up being tossed into the garbage can because a 22 year old, straight out of college, know-nothing, do-nothing female discovered …
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 04:15 AM
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You can also remove all pictures, delete all posts, and delete all friends, effectively using it for a means to stay in those hobbyist pages without the true effect of social media. Before giving up on it, I cleaned it up to my immediate family and a couple of dudes, while removing everything but a picture of my Triumph, so as to have a profile visible for the jeep and bike groups I frequented. After awhile, you start to "deprogram" and just stop even going for that. Then it feels natural to jus…
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 03:12 AM
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This -it takes two to tango. That dude very likely knew full well what he was doing, but still lied to your face. She might have manipulated him into a moment of weakness, that does happen -but even if that were the case, unless he immediately came clean and laid it all out there for you to see, he was still lying to you. He shares some of this blame, too, but either way he's no longer someone you can trust or have around.
/r/MGTOW15/12/18 11:33 AM
2

Yep, you're absolutely right my man. I've been on the receiving end of a one-sided friendship. I did a lot of growing up at the end of my 20s, and opened my eyes to the world. Before then, I was pretty commonly seen as "the entertainment" in my circles. The guy who would get drunk and do stupid shit that everyone would laugh at. I was always invited to pretty much every single adventure or outing you could imagine. People always wanted me there. Sometimes two circles wanted me at a function at t…
/r/MGTOW15/12/18 11:21 AM
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never threw themselves out there to have sex and kept morales Not saying dudes who have tons of sex are inherently immoral, but I am inclined to think that empty pursuit of sex is largely indicative of immoral behavior. Sex is great, it feels good and can be really fun -but at the end of the day, it doesn't really achieve anything except reproduction. And if you're not doing it for that purpose, what benefit does it really provide? What truly is the point? I guess what I'm saying, is people who …
/r/MGTOW15/12/18 11:11 AM
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I wish I knew more about archery, but can't justify the expense. I used to shoot with an old friend. He tried getting me into it, but I never could justify spending the money on a good bow, when I had other hobbies more deserving of my extra cash. I still enjoyed it a lot, though. He taught me how to shoot, and set up one of his older bows as a "loaner" that I'd use when we went. Never could get really used to the peep-sight, though he told me that was likely due to the draw length being too lon…
/r/MGTOW15/12/18 10:47 AM
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You're looking in the wrong places for friendships. The vast majority of guys you meet at work, school, or in some friends-of-friends situation, where you met them through the aforementioned folks, are going to end up being a disappointment. The reason being, you generally won't have anything in common with these people to the extent that a solid friendship can form. You're trying to form a relationship with people based solely on your ability to talk about useless bullshit and forced interactio…
/r/MGTOW15/12/18 10:40 AM
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Holy fucking shit. That was an intense, and good read. The guy has more accurately described a lot of my own thoughts and ideas in a way that's verbalized very articulately and to the point, than what I've thus far been able to actually put words to myself. I've struggled to put a lot of my thoughts to direct words, and this sub has been an outlet and a muse on social commentary for me, but that dude just blew it out of the water. In terms of the whole political thing interacting within that mac…
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 06:52 AM
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You're definitely valued man! And your work, if I remember correctly, is absolutely indicative of someone who's putting more into this world than he's taking. It's been a mixed bag in terms of my opinions. In some cases, I was definitely in the right, and had many people agree with me, even out in the open -but it still hurt me in the long run with others. Because at the end of the day, the vast majority of people aren't going to stick their neck out in your defense, but just about any of them w…
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 05:59 AM
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Human beings are literally animals. We act like them even if we don't notice or admit it. This behavior is nothing more than our animal instincts acting out even though we've built society and culture. We evolved enough to create those, but our nature didn't evolve fast enough to keep up. When his roommates belittle him in front of her, they're essentially snorting and scraping their hooves on the ground, daring him to lock horns if he's stag enough. Only they realistically aren't going to fight…
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 05:35 AM
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Upper 30s. I hate feeling like I'm coming off as throwing wisdom, because truly, I've not lived long enough yet, or through enough experiences to truly be wise. Yet people still ask me questions when I post on here, and I do think that if my experiences help another dude, it's worth sharing. As for other discoveries, mostly just about myself. What things I'm good at, what things I'm not. What things I thought I was good at, and what things I can still improve upon. All lot of it has boiled down …
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 04:37 AM
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Outside of perhaps being exposed to this exact thing, and being aware of how rampant it is becoming, social media is really doing you no favors. Even at that, I don't know how much of a favor that really is when you can just figure it out through other means. Social media fucks up your brain chemistry, as evidenced by the absurd behavior of thots and simps running amok on it. You'll feel a lot healthier if you get rid of them. Unless maybe you're young enough that you've been on there since you …
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 04:28 AM
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I like how the top comment hamsters up a rational explanation that actually has plenty of validity, but still completely fails to touch on the elephant in the room out of what can only be explained as a sense of decorum.
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 04:25 AM
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Succinctly put my friend, a more sobering view than what I was able to give the OP here.
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 04:18 AM
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The removal of ad revenue is just the first phase, the second phase is to deplatform any wrongthink all together. It's already happening and will go down hill from here. Gavin McInnes being a very recent example. I think of demonetization as being the "you had better be careful what you say" moment, and if they don't straighten up, they're gone. Of course, you can argue for days as to the legitimacy and whether or not the people in charge of such decisions are crossing into legally protected ter…
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 03:52 AM
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Probably around mid 20s, if I recall correctly. It was at the end of a career I started out in, when I decided the path I was on was not good or healthy for me, and started over in a new industry. It was around that time that I saw some common themes in both careers. I began to realize it wasn't just a random thing I'd experienced, isolated to one field or organization. It was a slow thing, really. It took a couple of years to fully understand what was going on -or perhaps more accurately, to fu…
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 03:47 AM
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I'll agree with that synopsis. I'm not really defending the dude, most somewhat rational people would at least stop and think about how badly something can end for them -even if they're a clueless city person trying to rough it in the forest. But admittedly not all of them. Some are just so out of touch with reality, that even in a quest where we can emphasize with and understand their reasoning, we can still shake our heads and say, "that dude's a fucking moron". I guess my observation wasn't s…
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 03:37 AM
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It's funny how they have multiple definitions of words, depending on the context. Friend can mean what you described, when in the context of talking directly to you. On the other side of that coin, when the word "friend" or the phrase "we're just friends", means she is either only interested in a sexual or emotional relationship, or she wants more but can't get a commitment from the dude in question, in the context of talking about someone else. It's pretty common for "friend" in the context of …
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 03:29 AM
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It's a big club, and we're not in it, and almost everyone of note has been a combination of bribed, blackmailed, intimidated, or otherwise coerced to go along. You can even see this on the smaller level, and the pathetic desire of people to enter into this club. Look at any professional organization -corporations, government entities and NGOs. Even down to the lowest rung of middle management, politics shows its ugly head. When I finally realized the world for what it truly is, I was looking int…
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 03:07 AM
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[Continued from above] If we're to believe everything in the story, the final destination was the great Alaskan wilderness. The stuff of legends from the books, and characters within them, that he connected to more than actual people in his life. Tolstoy, Thoreau, London -all members of the John Muir and Teddy Roosevelt club, selling the dream of the great beyond just out past the edges of civilization. I think by this point in the story, Chris had faced that same resentment time and time again,…
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 02:24 AM
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As they should. But this mangina fails to acknowledge the slew of false allegations that females make in the work place to knock a more accomplished and capable male coworker out of contention, or to bring down a supervising manager or partner to get pay back for being passed up for a promotion that they Feel they were Entitled to, to get revenge for being rejected by a male at work who Knows work place romance is a death trap for men and so on. The list of reasons females act badly and make fal…
/r/MGTOW11/12/18 02:39 AM
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I've hit an age where I'm not happy unless I AM alone. Being around anyone unnecessarily, outside of a very, very tiny group of friends, puts me under stress. I get very visibly irritated and angry just having to be around them. Maybe not everyone can escape loneliness, but some of us prefer it and actively seek to attain it.
/r/MGTOW11/12/18 02:25 AM
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For some reason, unknown to me, this aesthetic is apparently still very arousing to some dudes. Otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. There used to be a time when girls were considered attractive by just being relatively modest. Wearing a pair of tight-ish jeans, and a nice shirt. They didn't need nose rings, shaved heads, or g-strings in public to get attention. Now this has become such a common thing, I feel like I've been left behind in terms of societal standards. Like I've been living in a c…
/r/MGTOW11/12/18 02:02 AM
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I've seen that with people I like to hang around. They're good dudes, and I like them 95% of the time, but their ideas about the world and politics are just laughable. For awhile I tried to educate them, but they're too far indoctrinated from their universities. Which is funny, because I went to college, too, and didn't come out as a communist. I think I got lucky, because I didn't go to college until I was in my late 20s, and had already gotten a good taste of reality. These dudes are mid-20s, …
/r/MGTOW11/12/18 01:58 AM
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They take pills to sleep, and pills to keep them awake. When they're awake they take pills for anxiety and pills for depression. Then on the weekend, they get plastered drunk on top of all of it, and then start taking some new pill to counteract the shakes and tremors from that cocktail of chemicals in their heads. I work with one who eats adderall like candy. She claims it's to "help her keep from being drowsy", yet carries around a little keychain pill bottle, and has a pick me up about once e…
/r/MGTOW11/12/18 01:53 AM
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It's stressful, for sure. And to think we once thirsted for that kind of existence. And to think guys still do. Even some guys on here. I think a vast majority of all of it boils down to narcissism. There is no give and take in pretty much anything these days, relationships are no exception. When everything turns into, "me me me!" you can't expect something that's supposed to be a mutual benefit to really work. That respect is long gone in today's world. We exist in a society of narcissists, rai…
/r/MGTOW10/12/18 02:17 AM
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Yep. I was engaged to one who had those habits. Not only did she spend money on useless shit, but she had to fill every space in our home with that shit. It created some tension. I was always more of a minimalist. Not every surface needs something hanging from it. We started with each having our own room. She got her arts and crafts room, and I got my arts, crafts, and tool room. Eventually we had to buy a bed, too -but it was for some nonexistent person that she thought would show up. The bed w…
/r/MGTOW10/12/18 02:04 AM
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Soon as women came, taking shirts off was a no go Of course, in one of the settings where that would normally be 100% acceptable, it had to go and be gynocentricized. I mean, it's not like combat sports are good for men or anything. It's not like we've been doing that since literally the beginning of time. But it's just all patriarchy and oppression, which must be why there were no female gladiators who conquered everyone they faced. I mean, I'm all for anyone doing whatever sport or activity in…
/r/MGTOW10/12/18 01:46 AM
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It is a damned mockery. Used to be that we functioned just fine as a society, when we intermixed in things that worked, and were segregated in things that didn't. Not everything is capable of being co-ed, but fuck you if you think that way, because apparently gender differences are a social construct and they can be broken by strong independent women. When you force men and women to work together in every aspect of society, there are things men will do better in, and things women will do better …
/r/MGTOW10/12/18 01:35 AM
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Funny you say that, I've had an immense amount of respect for the realistic approach that character had in the story. Obviously he did some shitty things, but the overall sense of "this is all a joke, none of it matters" resonates with me a lot. I've been in some "male spaces" off and on, and even those aren't the same. I used to hang out with a group of dudes in particular, that started out as a guys thing, but it slowly turned to shit when they all got married or had new relationships, and it …
/r/MGTOW10/12/18 01:18 AM
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That's what makes this place great. Sure, some idiots come in here and claim it's full of misogyny or incels or whatever, but they're only scratching the surface and using a handful of comments to be indicative of the whole. Guys on here share stories. We share wisdom and insights. Sometimes it's related to the nature of women -but more commonly, if you dig deep enough, it's a commentary on the state of society. And you can find guys who share similar interests and can bond through the anonymous…
/r/MGTOW10/12/18 01:06 AM
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You're on the right path, my friend. Personally, I hope to eventually own a small ranch in Montana, or Northern Idaho -or hell, even Canada if I could afford to become a citizen. Nothing fancy, but a small piece of earth in a mountain setting. Just me, a couple of horses, maybe a dog or two. Perhaps a cat to keep the rodents out. I don't even need a large piece or a big house. Just a small cabin with a fire place. It's incredibly peaceful to cut firewood, especially when there's nobody else arou…
/r/MGTOW10/12/18 01:01 AM
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Absolutely dude. My job has me out in very remote portions of the world a lot, and I feel the most at peace when there isn't a cell tower or paved road in sight. Breathing that crisp mountain air, while taking a moment to sit and be silent is the best. It centers me. Then, when I'm back in the world, I get sucked into all sorts of insane stimulus and often start getting depressed. Our sick society is not good for anyone, but I feel especially vulnerable to it. I'm only happy when I'm truly in th…
/r/MGTOW10/12/18 12:51 AM
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I have a habit of making long posts, so I'll try to be concise. Essentially I, like many other men here, bought into the lie that we can have the same life our parents or grandparents had (depending on your age). I was under the assumption that people were still decent, and I could come of age, go to school, find a nice girl to settle down with, have the two-car garage house with a white picket fence, two kids, and live happily ever after on a salary that would support a family. Unfortunately th…
/r/MGTOW10/12/18 12:45 AM
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Oh, I'm right there with you brother. Most of the men here are likely of a similar age. At least similar enough in the grand scheme of things that their grandparents were likely the last generation that could realistically achieve this notion. Maybe the occasional dude here who's parents were lucky enough to have it. But either way, we've seen that it was possible, and we want that. But it's not going to happen now. Why? Well, one theory I've held is because we no longer have struggle. That was …
/r/MGTOW10/12/18 12:35 AM
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I have, too. More than any other religion. At the end of the day, I realize that none of them are likely to be correct, and still give into my atheist leanings from time to time -but it's a nice thought to sometimes comfort yourself with, by entertaining the notion that a higher power is watching over. I'll even go a step further and admit that I do sometimes pray. I don't really know who or what I'm praying to, but I generally go to a mental place where I envision Odin, as we're led to perceive…
/r/MGTOW10/12/18 12:24 AM
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It's a pretty common thing to happen, even to guys on here. Some might trash you for it, but I think a lot of it is just what happens naturally. We are animals, after all. And just like women, we have instincts and biological imperatives that fuck up our brains with chemicals. The important thing is to realize that while you might have some human nature to contend with, you're a sentient being capable of critical thinking and making choices that might go counter to that imperative. In short, you…
/r/MGTOW10/12/18 12:18 AM
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So many issues here it's astonishing. First, what in the world do you need to purchase for an infant that isn't just clothing, food, or supplies? Oh, that's right, they have to buy 32 different outfits, tons of toys, and accessories to make social media posts about. Then, they'll go onto trading sites, namely facebook, and find something someone is selling, only to try and lowball the person into giving it way under price -or even to give it for free, because "well I'm a single mother, can you a…
/r/MGTOW09/12/18 11:43 PM
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Yeaaa... talking about not knowing what she's going to do, bills coming due.. then goes onto say she's receiving aid and charity. Here's a thought, being a single mother in and of itself should not be a qualifier for aid. I struggle, along with millions of other men. I work full time, and put in a TON of hours at that. I live relatively frugally. I mean, I've got an internet connection. I have a car payment on the cheapest, most fuel efficient, best warranty combination I could find. I hate how …
/r/MGTOW09/12/18 11:38 PM
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This somehow doesn't surprise me. Get mad because you bought into a lie that you can run amok and do whatever you want, partying it up from now through infinity, and whenever you get done, you can still get everything promised to you.... Then proceed to fuck your child's life up, because you're salty that you made poor choices and lacked the capacity of critical thinking. Yea, that's a good idea. Let's just live our our petty revenge fantasies and set our children up for failure. Makes you shake…
/r/MGTOW09/12/18 09:55 PM
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Big daddy government, societal shifts, and blaming everything on the patriarchy has essentially encouraged it. There are no consequences for actions any longer, especially for women, so they make poor choice after poor choice, living it up, constantly "having fun" without ever growing into a functional, responsible adult -and then when it all comes crashing down, it's everyone else's fault -but make no mistake, the government will still be there to bail them out. At least until the marxists get …
/r/MGTOW09/12/18 09:51 PM
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Honestly that's a large part of what's lacking in today's professional culture. We have decided instead, that everyone's opinion is valid and useful, and that we must be inclusive to every idea or notion. The entire reason we have so many incompetent people thriving in the work environment, is because we keep giving them relevancy. If someone is hosting a useless meeting, over stupid garbage that doesn't either 1.) directly benefit the company by means of measurable profit, or 2.) directly benef…
/r/MGTOW09/12/18 09:05 PM
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That's because the one thing a hivemind is good at, is.. well, being a hivemind. They all flock to each others defense, or to whatever crusade they are led to fight for. It doesn't matter what the substance is, or even the context. They don't care about any of that nonsense. You get one of them riled up, and suddenly they're on the internet signalling to their fellow hive members that they're under attack and the threat must be eliminated. And just like a swarm of bees, it doesn't matter if the …
/r/MGTOW09/12/18 08:13 PM
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The ones I've dealt with have been a mixed bag of experience levels and competence, but they did still share some of the same traits. Sense of entitlement was among the most common. Even the ones that didn't openly say it, they seemed to always have that sense of "well, I'm a female soo..." Air of superiority was next. Nothing anyone could do was ever good enough to be on their level. Doesn't matter if you laid out exactly why they weren't superior than others, they'd still shove their nose in t…
/r/MGTOW09/12/18 07:36 PM
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You already do! You get the benefit of enabling single mother culture! It's great! /s
/r/MGTOW09/12/18 07:22 PM
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You see, the problem there is you're still thinking with logic. The feminists and the SJW fools that overlap with them do not have a shred of logic or standards. Sure, that whole "I identify as" bullshit works to an extent, but the very second they feel like it has put them at a disadvantage, they just change the rules. It'll be, "Oh, you aren't really a woman, you can't just say you identify as one", then you proceed to point out multiple examples and call the bluff on their hypocrisy, and you'…
/r/MGTOW09/12/18 07:18 PM
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Why this all became this huge legal/governmental thing I have no idea. It became that way originally, because historically it was one of the tools used to keep hypergamy in check. Our civilizations evolved alongside of us, and at some point in the distant past, we figured out that human nature isn't exactly evolved enough to keep up with human civilization, so we had to put checks in place. For a long ass time, religion and social standards performed that function. We got to a point where marria…
/r/MGTOW09/12/18 06:44 PM
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As much as you think it might be satisfying to go nuclear (and it probably would be, for about five minutes), that's absolutely not the thing to do. Not only is that a childish device of women, and makes you look the same, but you need to realize that if she's been cheating and lying to you (which are one in the same, really), she has already effectively said that she cannot be trusted. You need to realize that our current social climate is geared very much in favor of women, in everything. If y…
/r/MGTOW06/12/18 01:31 AM
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Giving them the time of day makes them relevant. People can only have these sorts of titles, and those kinds of offices only exist because people have bowed down to the scum who inhabits them, which makes them relevant. If nobody paid them any attention, they wouldn't have any sort of standing. What ever happened to actual cases of shitty behavior being handled like adults? Why the fuck did we decide having an "office of inclusion" was a good idea? If someone is truly being a racist prick, tell …
/r/MGTOW06/12/18 01:00 AM
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"Equity resolution coordinator" Either there is some other meaning I am completely unaware of, or they have now made careers out of enforcing privilege. Feminism and all of the associated psychotics who bought into it, don't understand that it's a political tool used to divide people -instead, they believe it's the path to equity over equality. Equal benefits without equal responsibility. From the title, I'd assume you've taken liberties with your cis white male privilege, and for that they must…
/r/MGTOW06/12/18 12:44 AM
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If people weren't so insecure about being alone, a lot of that self delusion wouldn't happen. So many people cuck themselves intentionally, because to them, it's the preferred alternative to being alone. They'd rather be the BP cuck sitting on the couch, while their partner gets railed in the other room, because she might still come play nintendo switch and eat pizza with him when she's done. They won't be totally happy about it, but will pretend they are fine or okay with it, from fear of upset…
/r/MGTOW06/12/18 12:37 AM
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Oddly relevant
/r/MGTOW05/12/18 11:39 PM
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My thinking, too. Like, what the fucking fuck? I figured the headline was misleading, like most articles... nope, not this one. I mean, some drunk dude gets his life ruined if he gets caught pissing in an alley, but these degenerates go onto do THIS and it's art?? What the hell are they thinking.
/r/MGTOW05/12/18 01:54 AM
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Holy shit, I was expecting something super far off in the distance, to where it could be interpreted as nearly anything. Tracer fire is hard to mistake for anything else. That was pretty clear and concise. My sympathy to the men in France who are living under a rule they did not want. If that's not an isolated event, expect a civil war. Although I'm not sure what they're really going to fight back with. Bricks and 2x4's only do so much against an armed state.
/r/MGTOW05/12/18 12:51 AM
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This behavior spits in the face of civilization. That's the whole point of having a civilized society, so that we recognize our animal instincts, and grow beyond them, because they only benefit us in "wild" setting. There is no place for that kind of mindset in a civilized world, and people who willfully abandon thousands of years of effort to keep us polite and successful, will be the first ones complaining the very second it impacts them. They're fine with it so long they get to fulfill narcis…
/r/MGTOW05/12/18 12:43 AM
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The argument will always be, "but if only the rich can vote, they'll make sure they stay rich and nobody can ever escape that". While at its core, and on paper, that sounds logical -it's not realistic. Sure, some people might vote that way -but overall they'll be voting for stability. Stability = money. Unless you're a certain ballsack eyes, then instability is how you earn, but I digress. You can't have a business if your society plunges into chaos.
/r/MGTOW05/12/18 12:39 AM
2

Smiling at the demise of their own kind, patiently awaiting some dark and mysterious invaders to spread for. Happened in WWII.
/r/MGTOW05/12/18 12:35 AM
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That bullshit is how we got where we are now. Sensitivity training is just marxism disguised. You're basically told how each of you are different, you're part of unique groups, and are pitted against one another. If someone is truly being an insensitive dick, why can't we just deal with that ourselves? What's so hard about telling someone, "You're a dick, shut the fuck up" and allow social shaming to run its course. Instead, we've been diving down this rabbit hole of "training" and "inclusivenes…
/r/MGTOW05/12/18 12:18 AM
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Interestingly, that would play into the NPC meme, and all of the theories surrounding it involving simulation theory. Obviously, this is all "weird part of youtube" shit, but it is entertaining to think about. The gist is that the NPC meme spelled out how all of these "people" are simply programmed actors, in a simulated universe where only a small number of people are "real", which would be those with a "soul". If you think about it even further down that weird-ass-youtube-autist rabbit hole, s…
/r/MGTOW04/12/18 04:25 AM
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I feel like I need to give that book another look these days. It surprisingly applies to so many situations in life, that with our present social climate, it would behoove many of us to learn the tactics and philosophies to navigate this fucked up battlefield.
/r/MGTOW04/12/18 04:08 AM
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I think a lot of guys here share the same sentiment, or they've had kids already for the same reason. The problem arises when the mother can't be trusted to put her nature in check for the welfare of the children. Children are like puppies for a lot of women. They love the idea of them, they love the cute baby phase, they love the attention they get for having one. But long term, they get bored and leave it out in the cold. Why do you think so many mothers want to go right back into having anoth…
/r/MGTOW03/12/18 02:09 PM
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Normally I'd agree -and I'd agree in pretty much any other job I've had. I was one of the lucky ones who found a career that's adventurous, rewarding, and fun as hell. The pay could definitely be better, but when OT comes in, it makes up for a lot of it. Now if you put me in a call center or a desk job for 100hrs/week? I'd have pulled the cord out of the lamp before hitting 60.
/r/MGTOW29/11/18 09:57 PM
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Haha, a lit of times it is exaggerated, but there are weeks where I get over 100 hours. Lots of overtime pay when that happens, and I'm bouncing from state to state. I won't lie, though, I actually love those times of the year.
/r/MGTOW29/11/18 08:16 PM
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I'm absolutely with you, trust me. I still think it has to have some give and take on both sides, but the vast majority you are right -it's on the employers. I sit and watch my current career. When I started this job, you could become a somebody by having a solid work ethic, by putting in hard fucking work, and dedicating yourself to being a workaholic. Now, if you do that, you're shit on for being an overachiever, because the mediocre lazy workers just get to keep being mediocre and lazy. Nothi…
/r/MGTOW29/11/18 11:24 AM
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Then you would have been berated by the self-loathing, feminist, single, millenial catlady for having done it wrong. You'd have used too many paper towels, or got coffee in the sink, or left the faucet on for three seconds too long, or any other criticism one could vaguely remove from their front-hole, as a means of degrading and belittling you to cope with the ever-increasing void in their lives as they silently break down into a dumpster fire of anxiety and depression, because in the back of t…
/r/MGTOW29/11/18 11:07 AM
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It comes off like the "I'm adulting" garbage millenial women love to parrot. It's like, congratulations, you did the very bare minimum required of a functioning adult. Your cookie is on the table, your trophy is in the mail. Not rashing on OP, just pointing out more absurd behavior in our current society.
/r/MGTOW29/11/18 11:03 AM
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I mean, you might as well capitalize on it while you can. It's coming. AI is the next big step in technology. Go get in on the silicon valley shenanigans, make your money, and get out. That's what most tech start ups are doing right now. They come up with a product, make it just good enough for facebook, google, twitter, or amazon to get interested, then they sell it for a NICE lump of money, and retire to a cozy life on a beach somewhere. And honestly I don't fault the guys who do it. Sure, the…
/r/MGTOW29/11/18 10:04 AM
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And realize that ideology has infiltrated virtually every pillar of western society by this point. It started in academia. Then it caught on in the media. Then the workplace got infested. Now they're in the political arena (arguably, that was the end goal -feminism being a means to an end for those with a marxist agenda). What blows my mind is how such a vocal minority has repeatedly been given such a platform. Even in the realm of AWALT, not even all of them are raging feminists. It's largely t…
/r/MGTOW29/11/18 09:41 AM
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There are plenty of guys here who casually date/hookup. There's still an inherent risk in it, though. It may not be as high as living with a woman or marrying, but it's still there. Let's say for example that you have some perceived resource. Maybe you've got money, or a stable career, or a house -anything that some girl might want to secure for herself. If she knows about those things, or even thinks you have them, even casual dating or hookups can be a risk. Remember that MGTOW is largely a ri…
/r/MGTOW29/11/18 09:08 AM
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This might seem a little abstract, but what are your goals and ambitions? You're incredibly young and full of life at 20 years old. Your best years are still FAR ahead of you, but you're getting ready to start living. If you've got aspirations, the worst thing you could do right now is to get involved with a woman. Especially at the age you both are at. I might have a few bits of advice, but it depends on where you're trying to take your life.
/r/MGTOW29/11/18 09:01 AM
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My personal opinion, after having been on the other side of this coin, is that no argument you make will change a man's mind about the truth of the world until he himself is ready to change his mind. Until he's actually ready to open his eyes, he'll be willfully ignorant and blind to the point of self-destruction. Doesn't matter what evidence, what proof you could show him. You could record her saying these things to her friend, and play them on nightly television, and he'd still come up with so…
/r/MGTOW29/11/18 08:52 AM
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I've been living on my own since I was 15, out of necessity. My home life was a clusterfuck, mostly due to drug addicted parents and poverty. That said, there's something a little off about a 21 year old college student being expected to live at home to the point of having no privacy. Your father took the lock off of your bedroom door? Am I reading that right? It's his house, he can do what he wants -but as an adult, you can also choose to not live there. If I were in your shoes, I'd feel like I…
/r/MGTOW29/11/18 08:39 AM
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Sounds like you've been through hell and back man. I've been there, a few times. I've had some really high highs, and some really fucking low lows in my years. One thing that stands out is how interpersonal relationships ebb and flow just like the good and bad. In some of my worst times I've had some of the "best friends", and in some of my best times, I've been completely alone save for a couple who've always been there. I think it comes down to what the people you surround yourself with expect…
/r/MGTOW29/11/18 08:13 AM
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"There are only people begging to be taken seriously" At the end of an article explaining how not only should mentally ill people be showered with every possible avenue for their delusions, but also how it is kind to not do so. After several paragraphs trying to be relevant and sound edgy by juxtaposing two completely contradictory stances as if they simultaneously hold both views. Telling people they deserve to mutilate their bodies, even if it doesn't give them anything but more pain and an ev…
/r/MGTOW29/11/18 07:47 AM
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US. Pretty much the same here. I mean, don't get me wrong, there are plenty of jobs where you can just coast along. These are typically low pay hourly jobs, with no benefits, where you come in and do a shit job, and go home. Even those aren't 100% free of that kind of bullshit, but once you get into a "real" career, anything above the first rung of the ladder is going to be subjected to straight up horseshit. And you'd best figure out real quick how things really are if you want to survive in th…
/r/MGTOW19/11/18 02:09 AM
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"Where have all the good men gone? I want to lock down my meal ticket so I can lay around on social media all day! Let's make it illegal for guys to try and NOT get locked down!" There are some desperate and depraved people out there. The article talks about women who knowingly "sell" sex, to someone they aren't attracted to, in hopes of securing oneself financially, and goes on to imply that it's wrong for a man to take advantage of a woman who is throwing herself onto him, if he's not going to…
/r/MGTOW18/11/18 09:14 PM
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I feel pretty bad for you man, that's a tough one. From the sounds of it, you're at least trying to do your kids a solid -that is if she even lets you raise them the way you should. In those situations, even if you were to leave, she'll destroy your reputation and turn your kids against you. It's pretty much standard operating procedure these days. Hopefully you can wait out your kids becoming adults, and start your slow exit. I can't say I'm jealous, at all.
/r/MGTOW18/11/18 06:19 PM
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I think that's what a lot of the screeching comes down to. They hate men because they can't get the ones they want to fuck them, to fuck them. The funny thing is, they could easily work on their attitude and behavior, and plenty of thirsty dudes would be on that in a second. Plenty of dudes with low as fuck standards. Instead, as you say, they just demand society accept them. By cutting their hair down to a buzzcut, getting huge gauges in their ears, nose ring, tattoos, and run around pretending…
/r/MGTOW18/11/18 05:44 PM
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Men paying for dinner doesn't define a date.
/r/MGTOW18/11/18 05:37 PM
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I think at this point, it's been a combination of two things for the feminists pushing for that bullshit. First, it's a money-grab by trying to ride the coattails of some successful franchise. There isn't any real creativity needed when you're taking an existing story and altering it. There are entire droves of fan fiction on the internet where this happens. It doesn't take a lot of talent. But if you get it on the big screen, you're probably going to make at least one decent payday -even if it'…
/r/MGTOW18/11/18 05:43 AM
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The west has thus far rejected totalitarianism control, with the likes of communism and socialism. Hell, we fought in wars against in in the last century. Then sometime around the mid 1900s, the ideology started to seep in through unconventional means. And very recently, in the last few years, people have been screaming in support of outright communism, but the overall majority of people still realize it's a failed system of abuse, control, and will end with genocide. The feminists don't underst…
/r/MGTOW18/11/18 05:23 AM
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It it wasn't for doctors offices, gyms, restaurants, and pubs, they'd have even less televisions tuned in. My gym constantly puts up CNN and MSNBC as their "default" channels. Luckily there are remotes and you can change the channel. Legacy media is dying, and they only have themselves to blame. Who would have thought that people don't like being lied to and manipulated.
/r/MGTOW18/11/18 04:34 AM
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Yep, that's the way it goes man. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. I'm sorry you had to go through that, but I think you just have to count the stars that you finally saw things for what they truly are. You see, that's the funny thing about people in this sub. The guys here are real, they've had actual experiences. Unlike the toxic feminists who come here and say, "who hurt you" or the incels they love to conflate with MGTOW -none of those people have lived through actual experiences. They…
/r/MGTOW18/11/18 04:18 AM
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It's my pleasure. I've been on this planet for awhile, and it's always nice when you talk to someone who actually gets it, opposed to the years and years worth of dribble you encounter all the time.
/r/MGTOW17/11/18 12:51 AM
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While I agree with that, wasn't it the marxists who opposed the enlightenment? The very same ones who are destroying our society? It's as if there are several aspects of our society that are largely to blame. The religious folks turned straight up fanatics, which drove a lot of people away from their cause, and then the marxists were waiting with open arms to vengefully destroy the very same religious and traditionalist aspects that used to be great.
/r/MGTOW17/11/18 12:37 AM
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That's an interesting perspective, and I thank you for sharing it. My personal belief has been all along, all the way up until asking you about it (which is the first time I've asked an actual German), that both sides of the media have it wrong. That one side has pieces that are correct, and the other side does too, but neither one has painted a truly accurate picture. I've always respected German society, but I've been brainwashed by western media, so I don't really know 100% what I'm looking a…
/r/MGTOW17/11/18 12:26 AM
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That's a pretty deep post that I wanted to digest a bit before jumping right into a reply. The thing that struck me the most, was in point number one, so I'll discuss that a bit first. 1.) You might be onto something. Obviously it isn't a blanket statement, obviously there are people here who may not be within that realm -but I do wonder. I take myself as a personal example. I have wondered throughout my life if I've had some spectrum disorder. In general, though, I've had enough social success,…
/r/MGTOW17/11/18 12:14 AM
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I want to think on this a bit, I think your reply warrants it. I'll comment again in a little while.
/r/MGTOW16/11/18 11:47 PM
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A little off topic and not a direct reply. I think you and I are basically on the same page, but just have had cultural differences that have skewed our opinions in one way or another. So my question is: I've read a lot about the migrant issues in Germany, and if you think back to some of the discussions here in the sub, many guys believe female nature has always and will always be submissive to whatever the most threatening force in society may be. That's counter intuitive to what they talk abo…
/r/MGTOW16/11/18 11:37 PM
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I see it as something we could have avoided had some of the previous generations just had a backbone. The values and way of life that we used to live created a strong and stable society. Around the late 1950's and early 1960's, the efforts to derail our society really became apparent. Social pressures were put onto households to break the way they were doing things. It was seen as "oppressive" to the people seeking liberation. They wouldn't have been seeking that "liberation", however, if we'd h…
/r/MGTOW16/11/18 11:28 PM
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I see where you're coming from, I didn't mean for that reply to be defensive -I am genuinely curious about other points of view. That's how I operate. For me, I like to observe and take in all possible information, and if that makes me adjust my view then so be it. I think that's the only way we can attain wisdom. We can't be closed minded, so I try not to be and try to entertain other opinions. But I guess if English isn't your first language, I would be fairly safe to assume you haven't lived …
/r/MGTOW16/11/18 11:03 PM
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I'm right there with you. If it weren't for that kind of shit, I probably would subscribe to a religion. It can be good fellowship, but the requirements to join that club these days are way too hardcore. The basic meaning has been diluted into cult-ish beliefs.
/r/MGTOW16/11/18 10:32 PM
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Calhoun's mouse utopia was eye opening for me when I discovered it a long time ago. It helped me to understand what was going on around me when I decided to walk away.
/r/MGTOW16/11/18 10:31 PM
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I'm curious as to why. I am open to saying I'm wrong. I've been wrong about a lot of things. My observations have seemed to indicate that those sorts of parenting traits, more often that not, helped keep people decent. Obviously that's not the end-all, be-all. In some cases it did the opposite. It made rebellious children. But it was coupled with a lot of other societal mechanisms that all worked off of one another -like religion, for example. It wasn't perfect, and not every case built up a fun…
/r/MGTOW16/11/18 10:23 PM
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The "conspiracy theorist" in me wonders if there haven't been manipulators for all of history pushing civilizations in that direction. It's profitable for small numbers of people when things go tits up. Those very resources get collected and concentrated during chaos. I'm not informed enough about that to form any real opinions about it, but I do think on it from time to time. Then the rational part of me understands that without scarcity, hardship, and having to put in solid work to survive, we…
/r/MGTOW16/11/18 10:18 PM
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That's true -many older men hang onto the idea of what once was, and they pine for it to return. To the point they're willing to run back to the plantation and be a betabux provider for some THOT who's entire existence is lived through social media. They think it can still change, and they'll let themselves become a slave. Many of the younger men do not have the income or resources to even be considered a betabux, so they just unplug all together after being treated like shit. It's all going to …
/r/MGTOW16/11/18 10:03 PM
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I live in LA It could be worse, but not much. You're living in a cesspit of decadence and immorality. Knowing that, I wouldn't wonder so much what you're doing wrong. It's just the people. I guess you could live in SF or New York, but LA is pretty much morally bankrupt. How attached are you to your city?
/r/MGTOW14/11/18 01:27 AM
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That's a pretty well thought out lecture the guy there gave. I think I'm going to watch some more of his stuff, first time seeing him. It didn't really tell me anything "new", but he did put it together in a succinct way that was an enlightening watch. I think many of us in this sub are really here because of society. It's not women, as some might have you believe. Sure, they're a symptom, but it's not the root cause. Society is what we have a problem with, and he gives a pretty intelligent expl…
/r/MGTOW14/11/18 01:17 AM
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I don't claim to have any of the answers, but I think just trying to be "natural" and polite is the best course of action. Lots of guys come onto this sub with woman hating, and the feminists take that handful of comments, or the talk we have on here discussing shitty female behavior, as indicative of the sub being full of misogyny. I think those people, including the ones who blatantly are woman hating, are just confused and lost. There is no reason to not be polite and courteous, and even prof…
/r/MGTOW14/11/18 01:05 AM
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It was a breath of fresh air knowing that I was not the only one who felt like I do I think that, for a lot of guys here, is probably the "holy shit" moment. After they've been used and abused, and they've mostly bought into the lie that there must be something wrong with them, that it's them and not her, that he needs to work on himself, that he's defective. I know it was for me. After a couple of very serious LTRs, a few dating relationships, and a handful of FWBs throughout my life, a common …
/r/MGTOW14/11/18 12:30 AM
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The future of employers will be contractors. The legacy workplace will eventually cease to exist because of the shitty business practices we have encouraged. Just watch, for every company with 100 employees, you'll have a contractor with 3 or 4. People are waking up and realizing that's the only way to get around the absurd laws that are in place regarding EEOC mandates. It wouldn't surprise me, however, if the government sees this happening and changes the law to also apply to a contractor who …
/r/MGTOW13/11/18 11:56 PM
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Also, just how SHITTY do you have to be in terms of management to have that kind of revenue coming in, and yet STILL lose double digit millions per year? The kind of shitty where your company no longer offers any real product or service, but still requires 9000 people. The kind of shitty where >90% of those people literally do nothing all day. The kind of shitty that turns a business into a social club with a paycheck. The kind of shitty that won't know what happened and will blame everyone else…
/r/MGTOW13/11/18 11:50 PM
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That's a pretty common theme in companies that have gotten big and later found themselves in trouble. Especially in the tech/media world. They get big, feel like they have enough money to spearhead the SJW front, and start hiring feminist hair color majors to fill their ranks. Pretty soon, they've run off any real talent they had, and the ones left start raising through the ranks. Before you know it, hardly anyone is left in the company from the days when they were successful, and they ride on a…
/r/MGTOW13/11/18 11:48 PM
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A whole hell of a lot of them who join up into the military, LE, Fire or any "badass" job that requires a lot of risk and "cool" field work. It's all about that sweet social media these days. They want to put on a carrier vest and pose with the helo for a selfie. They don't, however, want any of the work.
/r/MGTOW13/11/18 11:20 PM
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Manipulating some dudes into being mad at each other over her is abso-fucking-lutely the kind of shit you do NOT need out past the wire.
/r/MGTOW13/11/18 11:10 PM
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Suggesting she would go into a profession that gets a lot of respect and glory, that is often thought of as being a badass, only to not really do any work and to showboat on social media? Surely you jest, good sir. Surely she wouldn't put up pictures on social media, letting people believe she's some action hero. Surely you must be mistaken.
/r/MGTOW13/11/18 11:09 PM
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I largely agree with everything you're saying, though one problem that still prohibits this from working really well, is that the government is still doing what the government does best, even with contractors -there are entirely too many safety nets that more or less guarantee contracts. Let's say you own a contract carpentry business. Let's say you have figured out that you too, can suckle on the government teet with little or no consequence for your shitty work. Right now, contractors are trea…
/r/MGTOW12/11/18 07:52 AM
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This is just what happens when marxist ideology is picked up and promoted by people with a platform. It seeps into every institution and destroys a society from within. You can't keep dividing people up into little boxes, with labels and descriptions, and try and judge them on that label alone. People are far more complicated and dynamic than that. You'll start dividing people more and more, until you go from having two sides screaming at each other, until you've got a million different boxes wi…
/r/MGTOW11/11/18 05:46 PM
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There's a reason the internet became as popular as it did back in the day. Anyone who remembers the early days of the internet will tell you it's not the same as it was now. It hasn't been destroyed by any means, but there are definitely some indications of people with an agenda at work -and if that agenda is ever successful, it won't be recognizable as what we see the internet of today as being. People liked having a free forum to communicate and express ideas, without overbearing censorship. M…
/r/MGTOW11/11/18 05:38 PM
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They just want a big bad police state to hide behind that does their dirty work for them. They want to peek out over the shoulder of some gestapo, while pointing and saying, "There he is! Get him! He has a different opinion! Hate speech!" but will never have the stones to even get in a face to face debate with you. That's why they are frothing at the mouth for such a system to be installed. To be their attack dogs who put the boot to anyone they don't like while they put on a smug grin from safe…
/r/MGTOW11/11/18 04:20 AM
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It's the same when you get called gay for not wanting to fuck some random roastie. They have to resort to attacks that they think will hurt your ego. Funny thing is, most of us in this sub couldn't give one fuck less what they think and are happy with any distance we can get from them. Incels, on the other hand, are literally killing themselves because they can't get into a relationship. They make memes about suicide over not dating. Let that sink in for a second. I guess the libertarian in me j…
/r/MGTOW11/11/18 04:16 AM
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Social media has started taking a toll on everyone. People spend INSANE amounts of time on social media. Women in particular seem to be more susceptible to it. Don't get me wrong, plenty of dudes are hooked, too, but how many do you see with a smartphone shoved in their faces literally every second of every day? I work with one who can't fucking stand to not be on her phone. Even while driving. She's been called out several times for texting and driving in a work vehicle. Nothing happens, becaus…
/r/MGTOW11/11/18 03:59 AM
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I don't know why the hell you would subject yourself to that. I'd rather starve than drive around a bunch of entitled cunts. The driver seems like he's dealt with this before, based on his response. It's like he was quietly telling himself, "well, here we go again".
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 06:17 PM
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I spend a lot of time up there.
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 06:03 AM
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One thing that will greatly improve your mental health -go outside. Go out into nature. You need to be in the forest for awhile.
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 05:38 AM
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I'm pretty tired right now, about to get some rest. I feel like it would take a very well thought out comment to really explain it from my perspective. In short, it's an "enlightenment" that people have described feeling after either very intense meditation, or after a heavy trip on psychedelics. It's not truly the trip itself, in regards to the chemical method, but something that comes after. The Buddhists call it "the void". It's a place you go and become more humble, grounded, and aware. You …
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 04:49 AM
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Oh, hey Doc, fancy seeing you again!
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 03:17 AM
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Politics is yet another institution that has been overrun by PC, identity politics, and marxist ideology. You have either the current liberals spouting this shit without having any real argument, or you have the people on the right who are so alienated all they care about now is defeating the liberals. I now consider myself to be aligned more with the conservatives than anything else, but that's coming from someone who used to consider himself a moderate democrat. Both parties have, in the past,…
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 02:51 AM
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There's literally no winning with the insane identity politics bullshit, even for the ones who spew it. Our society is fucked.
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 02:37 AM
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I think most of us are in the middle income range or higher. Anything under about $15/hour minimum these days gets pretty close to the sort of jobs that younger people without education, experience, or a combination of the two will typically work. Although there are some younger MGTOWs here, my personal opinion is that you have to live through some shit and have the experiences yourself before truly going down this path. So while there are always exceptions to every rule, I think most of us are …
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 02:35 AM
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I would think something in the spirit of the actual people here would be most beneficial. I've seen this place, and other guys here, as a creative and exploratory look into philosophy. It's been both an outlet and a muse. Some of the guys here have had sage-level wisdom, I can recall thinking that in particular with some of the exchanges I've had. If we were to go the route of flair, it shouldn't be flashy or decorative, but something indicative of the content the user provides. We don't have a …
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 02:24 AM
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I've thought about this before. I honestly don't think we "need" it, because it's realistically about as useless as tits on a boar, but at the same time, it can indeed be fun or comical. I've also seen it used in other subs to identify particularly prominent and regular users, which I suppose could be useful to newer users who are coming in out of the cold. Overall, I think it's a decent idea -I'd be okay either way though, to be fair.
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 02:19 AM
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Throw in the mental health issues associated with the very same hamplanet, bluehaired, cat lady feminists who don't need no man but simultaneously where have all the men gone, and you've got a pretty good explanation of why they are so obsessed with rape to begin with.
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 12:56 AM
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Women go to extremes to get even the faintest hint of superiority over a man, in regards to "having their shit together". It's one of those things they latch onto and throw up as high and loud as they can, in a pathetic attempt to be relevant. It's pretty fucking easy to "have your shit together" when mommy and daddy still finance their princess' life. When they were handed everything on a silver spoon through their entire existence. When they've never truly had to work or struggle, because eith…
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 12:22 AM
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The future of business is contractors. The old guard of the business world is a fucking swamp that has been overrun by PC police and terrible, terrible business practices being implemented for the sake of being diverse or progressive. The economy is currently in enough of an upswing that people have a little more buying power and can vote with their wallet. The same principle applies to most workers right now -if you aren't getting treated well, there are now some options available to work elsew…
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 12:12 AM
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That spiteful woman who was turned down is such a fucking dumpster fire. I've had a couple who were absolutely batshit insane to begin with, who just turned it up a few notches after. The shit thing is, it's like, we don't want anything to do with you. We go out of our way to avoid you, yet you're still seething with rage and obsession, thinking that's going to magically make me attracted to you. Had a jesus freak follow me for a couple of years. That was a weird and stressful time. That cave tr…
/r/MGTOW07/11/18 11:25 PM
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I've been saying this for a long time. Women don't get careers because they're interested in what they can create or produce, or what kind of meaningful work they can do. The workplace is no different than a dating game for them. It's all about sex. The way they manipulate their coworkers/supervisors, they way they use sex appeal and actual sex for promotions, and all to get high enough to lock down some dude they think they can extract resources from. After they get that dude, they don't stay i…
/r/MGTOW07/11/18 11:20 PM
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That's true, and I won't argue it -but I'll add to it. Some of the best leaders I've ever known came up through operations. They knew the ins and outs of the field before they ever made it into leadership. They can run circles around the fuckwads who get placed into a higher position because they met certain diversity checkboxes, or because they're good at fooling people. I'll always have far more respect for true ops people over someone who gets handed a title.
/r/MGTOW05/11/18 10:51 PM
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That's pretty much it. I've always had a policy of treating people with respect and dignity. There are many reasons for it, but one of those reasons is that you never know what someone is going through. I remember back in high school, there were a couple of brothers who got really, REALLY harshly bullied. It was getting so bad even the other kids who typically got bullied were jumping in on it, and those two boys lived through fucking hell every single day. The school administration never did an…
/r/MGTOW05/11/18 10:48 PM
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This is the biggest issue I have with all of the craziness going on right now, largely at the hands of feminism and leftist brainwashing. We have abandoned gender roles in both the home and the workplace. That doesn't work. It creates friction and stress for no purpose other than to appease the PC gods. You can't put a female beside of male in a lot of different roles, and expect them to be able to perform equally. But we just ignore that fact, because it's inconvenient and fucks up the narrativ…
/r/MGTOW05/11/18 10:41 PM
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Yea, that's kind of my point haha. I get it, and to be perfectly honest, I am glad you guys focus your energy on the important things. I'd much rather have a competent doctor. It reminds me of some of the biggest complaints I have about some people in my field. They love to act like they're good employees, because they keep their equipment clean, their desks organized, and their uniforms pressed -but that isn't compatible with doing good field work. It's easy to pretend you're competent, to thos…
/r/MGTOW05/11/18 10:18 PM
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that's basically emotionally cheating They're perfectly fine with this these days. They'll even go so far as to nurture several of those emotional relationships at the same time. They've gotten good at twisting around words and language to hide what they're doing. "We're just friends" and if you question that, you're a piece of shit. If others question it from the outside, she turns into a straight bitch. They get fucking mad if you point out that emotional cheating and emotional relationships a…
/r/MGTOW05/11/18 03:17 PM
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I think it's largely a curse on present society, and the BP idiots enabling them are just as much, if not more to blame.
/r/MGTOW04/11/18 11:39 PM
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You should never put any of those people ahead of yourself, though. Don't put yourself out for anyone. You can be polite, professional, and even a really good friend, while still keeping yourself as number one. These days, you just never know when someone is out to take advantage of you. So many liars and manipulators. An example I'd use that isn't the best, but still illustrates the point: let's say you see somebody on a street corner begging for cash. They could actually be in need. Let's say …
/r/MGTOW04/11/18 11:33 PM
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Came here to say this. OP seems to indicate that his step father came along very quickly after the divorce, which would indicate to me that his mother was already in a relationship with the guy, but just wouldn't allow it to be openly defined until she got the divorce. Because you know, if people thought she was in a relationship while still married, that would make her look less favorable. I've got some thoughts on this that I've been trying to refine, I want to make sure I've got a coherent ar…
/r/MGTOW04/11/18 11:10 PM
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I've done the whole blatantly ignoring thing before. It drives them up the fucking wall. The one I was ignoring was a terrible, toxic cunt, with a terrible attitude and permanent bitch status, but also thinks she's a 14/10, when reality is more like a 5 on a good day. You want to see them turn into a hot mess of anxiety and desperation, just ignore them without any explanation.
/r/MGTOW04/11/18 06:19 PM
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That's eventually the goal. I'm at the point in my life where I'm paying down what last bit of debt I have, and trying to put away some cash here and there. I had a nice little buffer for a bit, used some of it for bills, but am very, very slowly building it back up. Over time, I hope to have some "fuck you money" squirreled away, too, then I'll consider such travel. I'm content exploring my little corner of the world right now.
/r/MGTOW02/11/18 08:26 PM
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Your last paragraph illustrates the present attitude in society right now. They want 10/10 in everything. If you rated everything on that scale, your job, your spouse, your car, house, kids, looks, money -they really do think they can realistically achieve a 10/10 in every single category. And then you realize how many women right now are thinking the same thing. It's like every person in the nation saying, "I'm going to win the power ball, and I won't be happy until I do." It's a statistic impo…
/r/MGTOW02/11/18 04:13 AM
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I am all too familiar with the examples you cited. It's troubling to say the least. I've had the opinion that gender roles extend into the workforce. I don't believe women should be entirely excluded in some weird dystopian scenario, but I DO believe there are some jobs/field that men are good at, and some jobs/fields that women are good at. Intermixing them and pretending there are no biological differences is a bad decision. Men have always been more suited for physical jobs or jobs that requi…
/r/MGTOW02/11/18 04:04 AM
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That definitely adds context, appreciate it. Somewhat counter-intuitively, I've noticed that people who study psychology on any official level (i.e. acquiring an actual degree) are seemingly at a higher risk to be psychotic themselves. Perhaps they're choosing their path to better understand why they are how they are. Maybe they suffer and want to offer assistance to other people who suffer -who knows. Good chat, keep that good head you've got on a swivel.
/r/MGTOW02/11/18 03:09 AM
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If you don't see this bitch regularly That's always the troubling part in these situations. I've found that most of the time, when someone has become this psychotic and latched onto another individual, they're likely in the same circle -whether it be work, school, friends groups etc. If you have to interact with them, it makes it pretty difficult to entirely ghost and remove from your life. It can be done, especially if you are sure beyond reason that you haven't had any slip ups that could be u…
/r/MGTOW02/11/18 03:07 AM
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I thought it might have been. Don't get too worked up over it, I make a hobby out of being an armchair sociologist/psychologist and spend lots of time practicing. In particular, I spend a lot of time in this sub as both an outlet and as a muse. It read pretty much like interactions that I have both personally had, and ones I've discussed with other dudes here. My guess is she's an art major, gender studies, or liberal arts. She doesn't seem to have the fortitude required of technical fields. Als…
/r/MGTOW02/11/18 03:00 AM
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Hey man, I watched your video. I think you've got some interesting thoughts, and perhaps some wisdom that can be shared with other men. I am certain you have lived through some difficult situations, just based on how you've opened your eyes to the things you spoke about. One line that stuck with me was, and I'll paraphrase, "If you're abused one time, you're a victim; if you're abused two, three or more times, you're a volunteer." That's some solid wisdom. If that's an original thought, I'd shar…
/r/MGTOW02/11/18 02:38 AM
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Women in present society are a dumpster fire of everything you mentioned above. The CC, partying, and substance abuse in their 20's isn't doing them any favors, either. The most fucked up woman I currently have the misfortune of having to interact with, eats adderall like candy. She tells everyone it's for a neurological condition when she's put on the spot about it, but several months back she was laughing and bragging about how she was able to secure an Rx by telling her doctor "she's always t…
/r/MGTOW01/11/18 10:35 PM
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About seven or eight years ago, I was in between a couple of FWB situations, when this girl I'd known for a bit, a former FWB that had disappeared for awhile, messaged me. She sent me this very seductive message about wanting to fuck, and specifically outlined what she wanted me to do. Ended it with, "don't worry I can't get pregnant". I saw the writing on the wall, even back then when I hadn't really found the MGTOW path. Told her thanks for the offer, but I was too afraid of any small chance. …
/r/MGTOW01/11/18 10:24 PM
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If your friendship with a woman is anything more than polite/cordial, then congratulations, you're in a relationship. "Friendships" do not exist between men and women, only varying degrees of actual relationships, but typically minus the sex.
/r/MGTOW01/11/18 09:50 PM
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After realizing some fundamental truths about our society a couple years ago, it's astonishing how rapidly things have changed. I haven't been actively in the game for a few years now, been going my own way after my last serious relationship ended the same exact fucking way the ones prior to it did. Once you start to notice how fucked up relationships and the dating game is right now, it's almost unrecognizable from the way it was even 5, 10 years ago. Definitions of words are changing, and it m…
/r/MGTOW01/11/18 01:51 AM
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That's fine and it does work when both parties actually follow through with it. It's exceedingly rare these days, though. I made a comment to OP above, but the gist is that women rope men into one of several relationships they have going on at all times. Being a friend, in the way men and the dictionary understand it, is by definition a platonic thing. Oftentimes, women will use "friendship" as a means to secure themselves an emotional relationship, where they get their shoulder to cry on, their…
/r/MGTOW01/11/18 01:33 AM
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Depends on the context when they use the word "friend". A lot of times, when a female says "friend", as in the sentence "we're just friends" she really means she is in an emotional relationship with the guy in question, but doesn't want or allow him to use the word relationship, and will not have sex with him unless she deems the relationship worth saving and he's about to leave. I think a lot of times, the "boyfriend" in this example doesn't even truly realize he is in a relationship. Men equat…
/r/MGTOW01/11/18 01:27 AM
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Good post brother. Women use words differently than men do. Look at the word "love" and how it has two different definitions, based on your gender. The same thing applies to "friends". When a woman says, "we're just friends", what that really means is that you are in a relationship with her. Just not the kind that also comes with sex, at least not on any regular interval. You get all the benefits of listening to her problems, doing shit for her, hanging out with her, doing things together, etc.,…
/r/MGTOW01/11/18 01:08 AM
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I think the idea here, is that this kind of behavior creates more of the shitty behavior we have in society right now. MGTOW is more about walking away from society as a whole than any particular gender. Women have become creatures of extremely shitty behavior, which is largely a result of simps putting them on the pedestal out of desperation. Society has gotten so fucking shitty, that people with shitty lives are willing to throw money at someone, hoping for a shred of affection or attention. I…
/r/MGTOW01/11/18 12:43 AM
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Add a third one to the list then, I guess hahahaha
/r/MGTOW31/10/18 12:21 AM
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Definitely Elktonites. They're some of the most trashy people. I know of two different towns called Elkton, that both have the same plague. It's weird.
/r/MGTOW31/10/18 12:19 AM
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I have sleeves and a beard, also bald head. Although my arms are indicative of the manual labor I perform, and I'm usually wearing torn up clothing soaked in fuel, oil, etc. I work tons of hours and do decent for myself. Consider myself strongly on the right, but was once more libertarian/classical liberal. Definitely these days, I would be assumed to be one of the proud boy types. Guess what I'm saying is, not everyone fits into neat little boxes, like marxism thinks they do.
/r/MGTOW31/10/18 12:01 AM
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If those sorts of people ever had a true "audit" on their work, they'd spontaneously combust into a dumpster fire of anxiety and panic, while running around trying to do as much damage control as possible. I've actually seen that happen before, and it was glorious. Too bad it isn't a norm though.
/r/MGTOW30/10/18 11:55 PM
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It just so happens that women in today's society are not good for one's financial, mental or physical health. Women aren't inherently some abstract thing that MGTOW has decided latch onto and hate for any reason other than existing, MGTOW identifies toxicity in society, and avoids it. Women happen to be one of the more common sources of toxicity in society right now.
/r/MGTOW30/10/18 11:37 PM
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It may be coming as a shock to them, but they aren't connecting it to their fathers or grandfathers. They just connect it to "life is so hard and unfair for me". Nothing will stop a woman from trying to get more and more free shit, more handouts, more entitlements.
/r/MGTOW30/10/18 11:34 PM
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Emotion > logic for them. Drama is far more important and interesting than any actual thought provoking conversation where they need critical thinking skills. Instead of discussing the fall of Rome, they prefer to smile and offer hushed rumors about "well I heard he was doing this.."
/r/MGTOW30/10/18 11:20 PM
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There was another dude on reddit awhile back making the argument that social media giants should not have to face regulation, in terms of freedom of speech and censorship. He was equating it to the gay wedding cake situation. I normally would have agreed in almost every other scenario, but these tech giants have become so large and powerful, that competition cannot realistically make it onto the market. Just look at the way Gab is being demonized for the shitstick that shot up a bunch of people …
/r/MGTOW28/10/18 09:58 PM
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The only part of your argument that I don't agree with is that machine learning is solely to blame. Amazon tried to have an AI program assist with hiring. They shut it down because it had a bias against females. The tech companies driving society into the ground, are largely being taken over by females at the higher ranks. They are the diversity hires and "heroic women" that are making up board rooms. When a creature that runs purely on emotion gains control of such an apparatus, one can only su…
/r/MGTOW28/10/18 06:55 PM
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Women wear a mask. The very second that mask comes off, even the simps can start to see them. Some guys can see through the mask, and have the ability of removing it for others. The biggest threat to a female is someone who can see through their mask. They will stop at nothing to prevent this.
/r/MGTOW28/10/18 06:51 PM
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I think that's largely a given at this point. They are pushing away everyone. Feminism is largely associated with the left, and they are more than willing to eat their own. You can't demonize half of your population for being born a male, on that fact alone, without repercussions. There aren't really even any arguments. When we talk about the toxicity of females on here, there is ample evidence to explain why men feel this way. With feminism their entire argument boils down to penis envy and "mu…
/r/MGTOW28/10/18 06:49 PM
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Let them have their shallow victories. Reddit is nothing. To pretend you have power over someone, because you are a moderator on a website, is pathetic. Go out into real life and do something worthwhile. Everyone is a badass on the internet. Go see if you have the stones to do that shit IRL, and maybe you'll get a dose of reality.
/r/MGTOW28/10/18 06:42 PM
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No, what realistically will happen, is when a woman has a white knight acting like a hero against "the wrong motherfucker", that leaves 2 vs. 1 in terms of the story. Doesn't matter what really happened, the white knight will bow up on some dude over shit his female instigated, and if he gets his ass handed to him, he and his woman will both have the same story about how some violent lunatic just went ape shit. There will be no mention of the dialog that lead up to this ass handing. It will be "…
/r/MGTOW28/10/18 06:39 PM
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White knighting is fucking absurd. And it plagues men of all walks of life, from the lowest scum of the planet to the most "virtuous". I remember one time I witnessed a small fender bender in a bunch of traffic. Some dude got absolutely nailed in the ass end of his newer model SUV by what appeared to be a meth head in a beat up old POS. The dude got out of his SUV, was obviously upset, and the bitch who hit him got up in his face about it. They were both screaming at each other for a few seconds…
/r/MGTOW28/10/18 06:35 PM
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If that's truly what they want to do, I say good luck to them. If these people want to act on emotion, without thinking things through, or considering the consequences for their actions, then I say let them drive "the patriarchy" out of society. Good luck to you if you're successful. I hope you enjoy whatever infrastructure you're left with. I hope you enjoy having to figure out how to survive on your own without men doing everything under the sun for you. That's where the problem with feminism …
/r/MGTOW28/10/18 05:33 PM
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The whole "don't call them out" is also a huge problem in our society. It used to be accepted that shitty behavior was called out, even way before the days of the internet/social media. Now, everyone is a snowflake who can't handle getting their feelings hurt, and demands that everyone be PC compliant. That shit has now seeped over into the workplace, too. With social media now, you definitely can't call someone out, because then your words will be a screenshot/printout, that they'll twist aroun…
/r/MGTOW28/10/18 05:06 PM
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Just a year ago, if I read this comment, I'd say that you were largely exaggerating that timeline. While that is realistically still farther out than a few months, these days you just don't know. The amount of insanity being parroted by anyone and everyone is just mind blowing. All it takes now for the hive mind to jump onto some new horseshit, is for the MSM and social media to force feed it to them. Within a few days it's a national phenomenon. I personally don't think we're close enough to ca…
/r/MGTOW28/10/18 04:59 PM
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Social media, and largely the technology that goes along with it (smartphones) are cancer. We took vast improvements to technology, and used that power for evil. I am also not 100% convinced that social media was perverted into a spying tool from the beginning. I think most of those companies started out innocently enough (as much as you can expect, anyway), and were quickly subverted by the powers that be as a means to track/control/manipulate the population. You can see the poison from smartph…
/r/MGTOW28/10/18 04:56 PM
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Our society is so fucked people have serious mental issues stemming from how badly we treat each other and the degeneracy we're living in. Sex, for example, is now as commonplace as having drinks. Empty and meaningless sex fucks with your head. People have abandoned all mechanisms we had within society to keep our animal instincts from running rampant. And it isn't good for our mental health. Everyone is extremely unhappy, mostly because of the shallow lives they exist, and therefor become lazy …
/r/MGTOW27/10/18 03:24 AM
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Men making things is what we lack as a society. Making beer. Building furniture. Building houses. Constructing fences. Making art. Writing philosophical thoughts. Writing poetry. We have always been the creators of things. Men are hardwired to want to create and build. I personally think it's why the soyboys are so deficient. They aren't living up to what they should be, and it fucks with their mental chemistry.
/r/MGTOW27/10/18 03:19 AM
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Brother, the older you get, the more you'll not want to drink to get drunk. After 30, your body starts to have 3 day hangovers, then if you get the gout from the booze, you won't be able to walk right for a week when your feet swell up. Booze is all good and dandy when you're a young buck, but it's really not that great for your health. Fuck what other people think. Drink what you're able to comfortably drink, and leave it at that. A real man knows alcohol is something to partake in with moderat…
/r/MGTOW27/10/18 03:16 AM
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This has been one of my go-to identifiers of simple minded people. It's not even that I'm an atheist or anything. I honestly don't know what I believe in terms of religion, it never really clicked with me over my years. But holy fuck -the people who constantly "send prayers" and ask for them, publicly, are so simple minded it's nauseating. I don't have an issue with people having religion, but what I do get aggravated with, are the ones who are so incompetent, useless, and unable to actually DO …
/r/MGTOW26/10/18 10:07 PM
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I work with the patron saint of dumpster fires, unfortunately. Biggest cunt you could ever imagine. Has made the comment several times in the past, "nobody ever listens to what I have to say.". One day, after being particularly fed up with her bullshit, she made the comment and I replied, "Maybe if you said something worthwhile, people would listen." Her BP knight in shining armor of a supervisor gave me a "stern talking to" over that comment. He's such a weakling, though, everyone (including my…
/r/MGTOW26/10/18 10:03 PM
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It's pretty indicative of a psychopathic need for attention. I mean, the colored hair and piercings have become such a mainstream plea for attention that the ones who want it so badly it's crazy, are now cutting their hair super, super short. It's just yet another doubling-down by the feminists. Give it a few years, there will be an even more extreme attention seeking mechanism the psychopathic narcissist cunts stoop down to. It'll be something so fucking disgustingly outrageous, it'll make 1/2"…
/r/MGTOW26/10/18 09:52 PM
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Not if you practice OPSEC/PERSEC both in the real world, and online. There is no reason to advertise it in your personal life, and if anyone gives you shit, there are a plethora of acceptable excuses or ways to change the conversation. If you go out of your way on some crusade trying to convert guys over to this way of life, you're going to have a bad time. It's called "your own way" for a reason. It isn't cookie cutter, and it damned sure doesn't involve anyone else. Just because we have a comm…
/r/MGTOW24/10/18 01:30 AM
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I agree with you 100%. The only thing that can happen now is collapse. Things will have to keep getting worse, people keep being driven out of society, and then, maybe people will realize the dangers in these ideologies they latch onto, but by then it will be far too late.
/r/MGTOW24/10/18 12:58 AM
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It goes to show a lot about society that people hope for this. I am one of those people, but the fact remains that it's pretty indicative. The vast majority of people are naturally inclined to want to pair up with the opposite sex, reproduce, and live a long and happy life. It's how we're wired. It's how we, as a species, have lived for a long ass time now. The fact that there are words on the internet, from a stranger, that express the exact same view that I and many others have -that men leavi…
/r/MGTOW24/10/18 12:35 AM
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I have noticed this a lot, but it's also seemingly more mainstream now for music, TV, movies to have political undertones. Whatever the buzz currently is, will be reflected in these forms of entertainment. The latest star wars was beyond obvious in how they shoved feminist shit down our throats. I used to enjoy star wars, but after that clusterfuck, I'll not be supporting the franchise.
/r/MGTOW21/10/18 09:02 PM
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Women believe all men want is sex, because that's all they have to offer. The vast majority of their experiences in life are related to sex, even their "work ethic" is driven by their sexual nature. When that's all you can truly offer, you tend to treat everything, and assume everyone else treats everything, about sex. They don't have interactions where a man will come to them and ask for guidance and wisdom in achieving some technical feat. Men do not come to women and ask for help diagnosing a…
/r/MGTOW21/10/18 08:50 PM
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Gasp, surely you are not saying marxist ideology is not sustainable?!! Oh how absolutely dare you sir! /s When we judge people based solely on whatever nice, neat, little box marxism has put them in, we are overlooking the more important and real things in the world. A person's sexual identity is not important, realistically. What they do in their bedroom is of nobody's concern, and it does not impact anyone else. But when you make their worth tied exclusively to some trait like that, it gets ov…
/r/MGTOW21/10/18 08:13 PM
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Miserable would be the word. I see it professionally. There are a number of them in my organization, and one in particular I have to share office space with. She's only happy when she has people manipulated to the point of them being pussy whipped slaves. Recently, her mask has come off and more people have seen her for the vile and toxic piece of shit that she is, with her bitchy attitude, backstabbing, laziness, and how easy it is for her to lie and cheat. Now that pretty much everyone in our …
/r/MGTOW21/10/18 06:18 PM
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I've noticed a large number of females who "appear" intelligent, but the reality is they are just overly neurotic. Couple that with getting a piece of paper from the pyramid scheme that is university these days, and they strut around like they're a genius.
/r/MGTOW21/10/18 05:49 PM
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The feminists are currently in a frenzy after the metoo supreme court situation. They are screaming about how it changes nothing and, if anything, proves to them that they're right and everyone else is wrong. They are insisting that bringing any of this to light, holding people accountable for false accusations, is dangerous to women. Never mind the fact that they have successfully convinced a huge swath of people in the US to never believe ANY accusation from here on out, as if that isn't rapin…
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 11:01 PM
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I don't necessarily think that's "black pill", but I get where you're coming from. I largely have the same thoughts about it nowadays. The system was built by men with a purpose. If the system doesn't want to reward that any longer, and wants to trample over those who work hard and create results, then so be it -let it collapse. I'm working on my exit strategy anyway, so even though I personally like to give 110% and have a solid work ethic, it doesn't matter since I won't be playing much longer…
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 08:16 PM
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Go on any social media platform and read from accounts that are of a leftist/liberal/feminist political leaning. Then decide the answer to your question.
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 07:55 AM
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People with serious psychological issues.
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 07:53 AM
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They can't even do feminism without being at each others throats. Go your own way gentlemen, these women have gone so far off the deep end you don't want to be anywhere near them. Let them wallow in their misery and filth.
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 07:44 AM
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Patron fucking saint of dumpster fires, brother.
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 07:27 AM
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I'm currently watching one I know, who's just getting ready to hit the wall, scramble and go fucking insane. She's doing everything she can to convince herself that she hasn't wasted her life on whoring and drama and other useless shit, and that she still has time. She is frantically spiraling down into a hot mess of a dumpster fire, while not married, no kids, and no real prospects. She does have a wealthy mommy and daddy, though, so she's got that going for her. They make sure she has a house,…
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 07:22 AM
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But when someone talented works hard they are an unstoppable force for nature and will always stand above all others. Unless you're a male. You can be talented as fuck, work your ass off, put in the OT and effort required to indeed rise above the others. Then a 20yo female with no experience swoops in and gets the job or promotion. The game is rigged now, the feminists and marxists made sure of that.
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 06:23 AM
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Can't say that I have seen that, but it doesn't surprise me. Then again, I am not at such a senior level. A lot of good hard work, education, and work ethic does any more. I'd also wager that there's a whole lot we don't know about that really goes on behind closed doors in the workplace now. I have seen some of that, nothing as bizarre as women sitting on the floor. I have, however, seen the rendezvous that happens between these women, and a man in a higher status position. I have indeed seen t…
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 06:05 AM
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It literally has become one. The pyramid schemes that got popular in the 90s and are somewhat still around even today, followed a simple formula: Look at my success, I have all these things and status, come, pay me money and I will teach you how you, too, can also have this success and these things. They never told the idiots who bought into that crap, that the pyramid has fewer and fewer available slots the closer you get to the top. Just look at any number of degrees now. "Gender studies", whe…
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 05:18 AM
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That's a good quote, one I was not familiar with. Thanks for sharing. It really goes to show how shallow of a creature women truly are. They care not for the intricacies of philosophy, or deep thought, nor for the respect that is found showing moral character, integrity and ethic. Were it not for shiny baubles and meaningless social nuances, I doubt they would find anything in life to spend their time on. Women surely do not build, nor create. They do not truly ponder on scientific thought, less…
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 05:08 AM
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My best guess is that you've rewired your brain chemistry from either too much fucking, too much jerking off, or a combination of both. Your body/brain now needs it so frequently the urge is incredibly strong. It's quite literally an addictive drug. Just like if you were to shoot up some heroin, you'd need more and more, on an increasing frequency. The good news is, that dopamine addiction is a lot easier to beat than heroin. You generally don't even really need treatment, just some solid willpo…
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 04:44 AM
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I think in the realm of sexual pursuits, you fall in there with men who are asexual, which is probably fairly obvious. As for other aspects of life? I think if we boil this philosophy down into being about sex, it really does a disservice to the men who have sat and pondered at what's happening to our society. The toxicity of feminism and the BP simps that prop it up can effect everyone who is not a feminist or BP simp. Have you not had a shitty interaction in your workplace with women? Have you…
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 04:37 AM
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Mhmm, and once you've satiated that biological thirst, you've got quite a decent length of time of clarity. If you feel the fog, and notice it, then address it. Once you see it as exactly what it is, a bunch of chemicals fucking up your brain due to a biological imperative, you can deal with it a lot better.
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 04:28 AM
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I think there are many reasons we're perpetuated this lie. I also think each generation probably has their own reasons why they did. For the current generation(s), a huge part of it is PC culture. In generations past, I think we had mechanisms in place to keep most of the social behavior we're seeing now in check. There were still bad apples, sure, but I think back then, everyone held onto the fantasy because they didn't want to believe some women were turning into that. Maybe in the 60s/70s, pe…
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 04:17 AM
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Thank you, sir. I do indeed see the workplace as something that is being effected. The poundmetoo movement has largely targeted it. They used it as a way to destroy men's reputations, and their careers. The workplace was already getting ridiculous with the feminist/PC shit, but this just went over board. But that was one of their goals, to destroy men professionally. Because nothing hurts a professional man like destroying his career. And they foam at the mouth for the possibility of hurting a m…
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 03:50 AM
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If you have the misfortune of living with a woman, you'll get to see just how much of a consumer they truly are. The amount of useless shit they spend their money on it beyond insane. I feel bad when I buy some new fishing lures to replace the ones I lost, or when I save up and buy a gun after looking at it for two and a half years. Then, they come home and get on amazon or walmart and order everything they see that gets the neurons firing. "Oh, that's cute, I need this! Click!" Typically they'l…
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 03:42 AM
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Thank YOU for taking the time with those kind words, man. I have grown to enjoy this sub, and spend my free time here exploring and studying social behavior as a hobby. I'm always thrilled to talk with you guys.
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 03:28 AM
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I rejected one that physically, was "my type", meaning I was naturally attracted to her. She was what I would have jumped all over when I was younger and less aware of the world. However, the combination of my choice to go my own way, and the fact that her personality and attitude were toxic as fuck, placed her firmly in the "not even pump and dump" list. She went absolutely fucking ballistic, and has harassed me for at least 6 months now, dying for any bit of attention. I have completely ghoste…
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 03:26 AM
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Nonsense, the hamster's hamster would just hamster up some logical impossibility that the hamster is hung like a horse, just to win the argument.
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 03:22 AM
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When men also start walking away from workplaces, the only way those businesses will stay afloat with these modern women is if they're actually... gasp... made to work.. Once it's just the feminists who are left, someone has to do the job or else the company collapses. They're fucking terrified of the equality they're screaming for.
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 03:16 AM
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This is the unintended consequence of the feminists and society at large making this power play. They pulled a stunt that gave them a huge fucking rush of dopamine after realizing what power they had over people, then they went fucking ape shit with it, like a junkie on a hellbound bender. They got the girl power for a few minutes, and it made them feel good, so they pushed it as hard as they could push it, without thinking of the consequences. Now there are a metric shit load of people who have…
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 03:12 AM
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Shhh, you're fucking up the narrative. They happen because guns.
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 03:08 AM
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Currently, it would take an awful lot of money to get something like that off the ground. Law firms are a business just like anything else. They require profit to succeed. There isn't a lot of money to be had in speaking publicly in defense of men as a class. The social medias would turn rabid, and their NPC hivemind would swarm them with smearing and threats. It would essentially be a good way to lose money, and possibly your firm. Unless there were a shit ton of money propping it up from the s…
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 03:06 AM
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I think what he was making a play on the importing of islam to the west. There are even some on here who think it is a good thing. It's the same shortsightedness of the feminists getting all wet for short gains over long term loss.
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 02:59 AM
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Thank you, that is very humbling. I have taken to studying social behavior as a hobby, and largely use this sub in particular as not only a muse, but as a canvas. I am glad people are connecting with it, and able to field discussion. I've got some things in the works, that perhaps in a few months will become more polished and I can fully publish. I put up a link awhile back to a "teaser" of what it was going to be and it was fairly well received. Thank you for reading!
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 02:49 AM
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That's a great system. I struggle a lot with acting "in the moment" to the point that I sit and think about how I can improve myself in how I operate. One of the things I've come up with, that I try to put into practice, is "think and act deliberately". So often, I find myself caught up in some interaction, and I get a lot of anxiety to the point I just go into full automation, full speed ahead, without slowing down to think and perform in a more deliberate manner, then I end up thinking about i…
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 02:17 AM
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Probably not in our lifetimes, but I believe eventually we'll allow this clusterfuck to get so bad it collapses in on itself. The workplace will be among the first institutions to do so. If you keep promoting women as both virtuous heroes of labor, and also victims, they will keep acting as such. And they will keep entering into more male workplaces. If the insanity we're seeing now is any indication of what's to come, men will start to leave the workplace. Then what happens when women are left …
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 01:42 AM
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This is one of the things we are lacking in our society right now. This is why you keep hearing about these cases. There are no repercussions, judicial or societal, for this behavior. They are free to make the accusations and also be protected by the system. Human beings will not stop doing something if there is no incentive to not stop doing it, especially something that gives them such a sense of power. How many thieves are out there in the world were there no consequences for stealing?
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 01:28 AM
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In the US, you can basically sue anyone for anything. That doesn't mean your case won't immediately get thrown out, or that you will stand a chance of winning. It largely seems like the justice system follows the ebb and flow of societal standards, rather than actual justice, in most cases. With the current climate in western society, I don't know how much of a chance the boy and/or his family would have of winning against such a case. The courts/judges/juries would likely be far too afraid of a…
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 01:24 AM
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While you are indeed correct, this has happened for basically all of eternity, we are amplifying this behavior and the side effects in our current society. What used to be something that would happen here and there, but was mostly kept in check by a number of different mechanisms, is now spiraling out of control. This behavior has been enabled, and we are told to accept it. Modern societal standards have shifted and removed many of those previous mechanisms. Social media, smartphones, and techno…
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 01:13 AM
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With this becoming the norm, in just the last couple of years, to the point it's happening to school children -just imagine what's going to happen when these kids graduate and enter into adult society. I just did a fairly lengthy write up about women in the workplace, and the simps that enable this behavior. It's already so prevalent it's downright absurd. When these kids go out and get a job/career, they're going to be subjected to this shit at an exponential rate. I see it increasing the way h…
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 01:01 AM
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Watched that video, thank you for linking that. Part of my personal MGTOW journey has been to begin studying social behavior, an armchair sociologist if you will. It just happens that I find an interest amount of subject matter here in this subreddit, and therefor spend a lot of time here. It's these exchanges that intrigue me. You and I are sharing with each other interesting experiments and observations on social behavior. Maybe it's a bit indicative of how far we have fallen as a society, tha…
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 12:31 AM
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This link has the video embedded. Dr. John Calhoun did a series of experiments in the 60s, and later in the early 70s that gave some pretty serious indications that we're fucked. My understanding is that the experiments were later "shut down" when the implications made people take an uncomfortable look in the mirror. As if one of those, "That's dangerous, don't play with it" sort of things. I'll check your video out real quick.
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 12:22 AM
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Men become as great as society will allow them to be; women will become as degenerate as society will allow them to be.
/r/MGTOW18/10/18 11:08 PM
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This is an honest observation, not meant as any sort of attack. I think you maybe aren't fully MGTOW, but have maybe seen some of the evidence, which has shifted your views, but still hasn't been enough evidence to prove your hypothesis. Some guys end up subjecting themselves to multiple relationships before they see the truth for what it is. I think, maybe, that's because they are so connected to the system that the brainwashing causes subconscious conflict, where if a woman were to come around…
/r/MGTOW17/10/18 02:56 PM
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This. Women now, and a lot of guys even, have their phones shoved in their face all day every day. Smartphones and social media were one of the worst things to ever plague our society, and is largely contributing to the depravity going on around us. I see women at work doing it more than anywhere else. These women don't do anything. They collect a paycheck to sit on their asses and take selfies to put on social media. If they work in a job that has even a modicum of cool factor, they use their j…
/r/MGTOW17/10/18 01:49 PM
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Went to make the same comment, it's already too late. Social media was the final nail in the coffin, it just took a couple of years for most of us to realize it for the poison it is.
/r/MGTOW17/10/18 01:47 PM
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Problem with revolution, though, is what would it really achieve? The people who make us pissed off with society aren't going to magically start thinking with logic and reason. The system isn't going to just magically go back to working with logic and reason. All revolution would realistically do is kill a bunch of people, destabilize everything to the point even just going your own way will be incredibly difficult. That's if an actual revolution could even get off the ground. A revolution would…
/r/MGTOW16/10/18 11:44 PM
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However they live with themselves, it's not for as long as other people. I feel like this "fat acceptance" shit that's all over the media and consumer goods now is absolutely indicative of the fact that they are indeed unhappy. If you have to put a 400lb woman on the cover of a magazine, and say, "Look, fat is beautiful too!" you're only trying to convince yourself and everyone else of a lie. I think they know it is off putting, disgusting, and unhealthy. They just don't want to deal with the co…
/r/MGTOW15/10/18 12:20 AM
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I see no real indication of things getting better in that regard. I have no problem with women working if they want to. What I do have a problem with, is them getting jobs that they actually won't do or are incapable of, and getting paraded around because look how progressive we are for hiring a woman into a job that has historically been male driven. I am a firm believer in gender roles. It's biology. Men and women are built and wired different. If you have a team that plays on the strengths of…
/r/MGTOW14/10/18 11:31 PM
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Oh god, tell me about it. I work with them, too. A lot of the new people, and pretty much all of the females go fucking ape shit when they get close to one, or get to fly in the ship. The phones come out and safety goes to the wayside. Watched a base manager tackle a moron once, because they wanted to walk over and get a selfie with a hot machine.
/r/MGTOW14/10/18 11:19 PM
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There are a number of professions that are inherently dangerous, high stress, and require a ton of actual work, that have traditionally been male dominated. This assault from the feminists and PC leftists is seeping into those professions, and they are now promoting women in their ranks. Often times they are held to a lower standard, or are just given a pass even if they are held to the same standards on paper. They're also the professions, that when run effectively and efficiently, are good out…
/r/MGTOW14/10/18 11:16 PM
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Probably smells like a trash can full of what the fuck.
/r/MGTOW14/10/18 10:10 PM
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This is the answer the feminists will enrage over, because it is the correct answer. They are fuming mad that one of their weapons might be taken away from them. Anyone who has been genuinely raped, absolutely should go directly to the police, file a report, and file charges. In the extremely rare cases of some rando street rapist hiding in the bushes, who they have never met in their lives, still file that report. The police won't know who/where to look if you don't. The vast majority of actual…
/r/MGTOW14/10/18 08:55 PM
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I used to aspire to larger things. I worked on that path for some time, and actually more or less accomplished it -but I used to see a path where I'd go even higher in my field. In order to do exactly what I planned, I'd have to gain further education than what I already have. College was just at the starting point of this insanity when I went, and it was so bad even then that I almost quit. So I'm at a fairly comfortable place right now. It isn't exactly what I am fully capable of, but it will …
/r/MGTOW14/10/18 06:27 AM
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This is the truth. They don't care about the fact that what's good for LA is not necessarily good for Alabama or Oklahoma or Indiana. Because flyover states are deemed "ignorant hicks" and therefor, their needs are not relevant. They want the entire place to reflect their liberal shitholes. The current bread and circus isn't going to do much but provide entertainment, I think. I hope I'm wrong and things start getting back to normal, but I fear we're too far gone, all you can do is make yourself…
/r/MGTOW14/10/18 04:49 AM
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There was a post on here awhile back where that happened at a law firm, and the lawyer who went out on preggers leave, was being filled in for by another female lawyer.... who got preggers and had to be filled in for.
/r/MGTOW12/10/18 06:59 PM
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If you were paying them proportionately to their work, they'd end up owing the organization every pay period.
/r/MGTOW12/10/18 06:57 PM
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I honestly don't believe, personally, that change will really be made in any positive way. So many employers are scared to death of litigation and not being PC that they factor in diversity hires as a given and are not willing to let go of that, regardless of how it destroys their organization. I've seen it in the professional world far too many times. They'll hire a shitty female employee, who does shitty work (if any at all), who has a shitty attitude, completely and utterly useless, talentles…
/r/MGTOW10/10/18 07:18 PM
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If you haven't known these religious types, it might come as shocking. I've known the "christian" types most of my life, and it doesn't surprise me at all. They'll be married, with kids, and swear to everyone that they're "just friends" with the guy from the church, who is also married with kids. Unsurprisingly the guy is typically some kind of status symbol in said church. Then, when they're constantly on social media together, constantly talking on those fucking phones, all hours of the day, a…
/r/MGTOW10/10/18 07:09 PM
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It's to get a few points ahead in the oppression olympics
/r/MGTOW07/10/18 02:27 AM
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Nah, it's WHY there are so many accusations -because bitches are taking the easy out, fucking the bosses, and then if they don't get exactly what they want, they use it as blackmail
/r/MGTOW05/10/18 01:31 AM
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I think a lot of people are realistically with you on that. I have witnessed my dad suffer terribly, even to this day, after a near lifetime of being in ahit health. Now he's bed ridden/wheelchair bound, his mind is nothing close to what it used to be, and he wastes away daily. Full of tubes and on machines. It absolutely kills me, and the guilt is even worse knowing he is stuck a couple of states away from where I live now for work. I go back as often as I can, but the entire drive home is alwa…
/r/MGTOW01/10/18 10:02 PM
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I just wanted to say, keep on keepin' on, brother. The world is a pretty cold and unfair place sometimes, I have been right there with you a lot lately. But it's also a pretty cool place, if you disconnect and go out into the right places. Go into nature. It helps. So does the gym. I've become addicted to the gym, because it makes shitty days a little better after you stick with it for awhile.
/r/MGTOW01/10/18 12:25 AM
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You dont have to be nervous about doing something, if you never do anything. Queue Eddie Murphy meme. I see it in the professional world all the time. Women refuse to work. Refuse to even TRY. Because most of them are a hot mess of anxiety, depression, and incompetence. Useless for anything. So if they DO try, they will fuck up. So they dont even try. They just collect paychecks. Difference is, when men fuck up, even if they are also full of anxiety, depression, and incompetence, they keep pushi…
/r/MGTOW30/09/18 02:20 AM
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Yea, going your OWN way is just that. Do not get involved, with women, OR cucks. Just be okay with being alone and independent. Once you actually tap into that blissful existence, and realize how peaceful the mind can be, you wont want to go back. I am at my strongest and clearest of mind when I am isolated.
/r/MGTOW30/09/18 02:15 AM
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OP, I can definitely vouch for this. When I was a young buck, I largely was inactive and spent my time on sex, drugs, and rock and roll. Eventually, I grew out of that life and started a career I really enjoy and have a sense of reward for doing it. That career requires me to be in really good physical shape. I started working out hardcore so I wasnt "just passing" the PT test. Mostly I started so I wouldn't stress about passing, and could actually do it without feeling like I was going to die. …
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 11:04 PM
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This is a great insight, one I believe is largely true. There are still other motivators, and I do believe there are paid fucking shills doing it, but at the end of the line, even the shills probably ly feel the way you've described. Fucking disgusting virtue signalling cunts
/r/MGTOW24/09/18 08:04 AM
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It always bothered me when people put pictures of fancy food on social media. In my cuck days, when I still was on social media, I specifically recall some tight pay periods where I was hungry a lot. I mean, I had food, but it was generally bologna on bread with mustard, and tap water. Kinda made me shake my head when I'd be mouth watering at the fancy food my "friends" were having. Worse yet were the ones I fucking know for a fact are claiming benefits, that my paycheck pays for, but are out ra…
/r/MGTOW24/09/18 08:00 AM
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They were far more constrained in generations past. Sure, they mostly were the same, but today's climate has given them smartphones and social media, along with a culture that has very heavily shifted in favor of that behavior -hell, the cucks out there actually encourage it by becoming slobbering tools hellbent on getting a whiff of pussy. The current society has exponentially increased the shitty attitude and behavior. In the past, their nature was at least partly kept in check by society. No …
/r/MGTOW18/09/18 09:29 PM
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I've largely been absent for the last two weeks, with a large project at work having me in and out of state for days at a time. Tonight is the first I've really had any true downtime to spend on the internet. What is with all of this banning things shit? I mean, I sort of get it. Sounds like a sub wanted to ban other subs, but didn't they go private or get shut down or something? What's the larger picture?
/r/MGTOW15/09/18 01:54 AM
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push their wheelchair up the hill so they can get to the supermarket to buy groceries. This hits home for me, because my father is in this exact scenario. So I don't disagree with anything you're saying. In fact, it's personal for me to believe in what you're saying. I largely agree in every respect. The system isn't perfect, I spend lots of time/money to take care of my father, so does my brother. There isn't a really good solution right now, but I do not, however, believe that a government swo…
/r/MGTOW15/09/18 01:49 AM
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This is the correct answer. Any grown ass man will tell you they are worth at best a few comedic jabs, but are absolutely not worth expending energy and resources by fighting them. If they ever try anything "real", or get bold and try to do anything of any real significance, they will be dealt with like the children that they are -sternly and quickly. That shit will be shut the fuck down. Let them scream and cry and pretend that their internet forums are somehow an important utility. At the end …
/r/MGTOW14/09/18 06:26 PM
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I get it if you were on there trolling or something, but if you are here venting about a negative interaction you had while trying to date women on a dating site... I have to ask, what is the point of this post? What is the end result? If you were going your own way, realizing that dating/relationships are a loaded game and a juice that is not worth the squeeze, like the rest of us here, you wouldn't be on a dating site. That reeks of incel desperation and cements the belief that many guys who c…
/r/MGTOW14/09/18 06:08 PM
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Communism/socialism is a woman's ideology. They want a man's resources to be given to them for free, and if they aren't given, they are seized. That's true of women relating to men, and communism/socialism relating to the population. My personal opinion is that those beliefs are incompatible with MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW14/09/18 05:57 PM
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Just be ready in case the whatever no-name online "journalist" decides that her militant feminist hatred of men dictates that she must destroy your life. They do hang out in here, looking for fuel to stoke their fires. The title of the paper would be something along the lines of, "The TV show forged in fire is misogynistic and problematic for women, and here's why" We've all seen that kind of shit happen. Anyone who leaves the plantation is a target, and if you advertise that you're leaving, the…
/r/MGTOW14/09/18 05:45 PM
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Keep it up man, there's nothing wrong with you for being a biological creature. It's okay to be a human being. Just put that energy into better, more productive outlets. My personal ones have been trying to get and stay in shape, trying to eat better, reading more, writing more, thinking about things more. Spending time in nature, learning new skills, becoming more self reliant. Spending time with my brothers and friends. Not taking life so seriously. Enjoying my career and getting good at it. H…
/r/MGTOW09/09/18 12:49 AM
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I agree that I've seen a lot of those common signs. The whole, "I've not entirely gone my way, because unicorns exist and here's why" story where they conjure up some reason in their minds why, "next time, NEXT TIME, it'll be different! She's different" while they continue with the obsession and eventually fall back into their despair when yet another one turns them down. Then they disappear for awhile and go through all of the stages of grief all over again.
/r/MGTOW09/09/18 12:38 AM
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Mhmm, yep, you're absolutely right. Just like the housing bubble, the college bubble will collapse in more than one way. Notably, loans will be defaulted on more and more due to useless degrees, and the bottom will drop out of the degrees themselves, due to bullshit studies, followed by the name of the institution losing merit. Trade schools and community colleges are already on the rise as being "sufficient" for technical careers, with traditional bachelors and masters programs becoming more an…
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 11:23 PM
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They'll also do it as an apology for being male because the stench of pussy whips them ever so violently and the idea of maybe, maybe, maybe this time it'll be different and she'll give him a chance.
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 09:20 PM
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As problems get closer and closer to reality, they are talked about in more and more circles I guess.
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 06:14 AM
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As problems get closer and closer to reality, they are talked about in more and more circles I guess.
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 06:14 AM
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As problems get closer and closer to reality, they are talked about in more and more circles I guess.
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 06:13 AM
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Yep! Why should anyone settle for "within their means" if above their means are throwing themselves at their feet left and right? Men included. I mean, if you have to work pretty hard to afford to drive a kia, but dealerships start driving $100k cars into a screeching halt, right in front of you, while screaming, "c'mon man, please, PLEASE take the car! It's free! I want you to have it!" would you do anything different? Granted there are a lot of differences there, but just to illustrate a point…
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 05:10 AM
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Been there brother, done that, got the t-shirt. When you truly recognize what's going on in this world, you're also realize that those 50-60 hour weeks she was telling you about probably also included several hours of monkey branching and cheating. Especially when she got to the point of resenting you. Take solace in the fact that you got out mostly unscathed, and learn from the experience. AWALT.
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 05:06 AM
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I'm going to lay out some thought processes that helped me cope when I first started to realize how the world worked. You're young enough that your mind can still mold fairly easily into a new perspective. First, think about why "it's hard man". What is hard? Realizing that the love you were sold was a lie? But why does that hurt? You need to think about the more base level reason behind it. I've written about this extensively on this sub, but I'll try to condense it some. You see, as a man, you…
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 05:03 AM
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It's definitely a feature, however society used to keep a lot of this at bay. Much like how men have a need a lot of time, especially when young and full of testosterone, to fight other men is just a feature of men (ripe for the manipulation by women, I might add). The difference here is that a lot of our animal desires and instincts are not conducive to a society or the betterment of the species. That's why we have laws against assault -to keep those things mostly at bay. If there were no laws …
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 04:34 AM
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That branch is a lot easier to grab onto these days, too. With the decay of moral values, the shame is absent. With the invention of smartphones and social medias, the branch is almost always right in front of their face. With feminist/marxist ideas being shoved down everyone's throat, the branch is encouraged and she is brave for grabbing it. I'm tellin' ya, our society might have always had problems but in recent years, with advancements in technology in all the wrong places, we've really put …
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 04:24 AM
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A step in the right direction would be society being okay with shaming this kind of behavior out of existence, or at least back to an acceptable level. This entire sub is really about society, if you ask me. There are two base groups of people in society: men and women. Success of said society is dependent upon how the two groups interact, and if a mutual respect can be agreed upon to advance the society and further the species. If that respect cannot be agreed upon, people start to walk away.
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 04:19 AM
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They want men to want this, nowadays. You're oppressing them if you don't want them to sleep with as many people as they can. Fuck thousands of years of figuring out how a functioning society works, that's just sexist garbage I guess.
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 04:15 AM
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The reason it wins is because we have allowed it to. You can't be mad at a snake for being a snake, but you can damn sure avoid it instead of laying down and letting it build a nest up your ass. Society took a wrong turn sometime around the 60s or 70s, best I can tell, that slowly led to a bunch of negative shit seeping in. And as the shit started seeping in, the holes got bigger. We could have patched the holes, but decided we'd pretend they weren't there. Then, we felt sorry for the shit for c…
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 04:02 AM
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Comment on there was gold. "If only there were some sort of way for a person to stick around after sex, perhaps even for years. Alas, no such mechanism exists." The lack of self awareness coupled with their narcissism will not allow them to understand this.
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 03:29 AM
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That's a fucking joke, in this modern day society being a virgin means absolutely shit. Even if you were to find some girl who claims she saved herself for marriage, and goes all tradcon on you, it's only a matter of time before she discovers the CC and all of its instant-gratification splendor. Go your own way. AWALT doesn't mean all women who aren't virgins, it means all women.
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 03:02 AM
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There is no purpose to that shit, just another mouth to feed when society goes tits up. Go your own way, improve yourself, learn skills, gain resources for YOU, hoard that shit, hit the gym, survive the collapse. If pussy is your motivator, there will be plenty when the house of cards comes crumbling down. But even then, you should go your own way. THOTS be even whoring out for food and sanitary supplies in Venezuela, as another dude here pointed out.
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 02:59 AM
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I guess that's where I like the whole self-reliance thing, and learning new skills. Hunting and fishing, along with learning a plethora of skills associated with that, is what I'd bank on long-term. There is game in the winter. Unless you're in a city, in which case I don't exactly know how I'd suggest preparing against that. I kind of doubt the entire world would come to an instant grinding halt, there would be time to adjust -but if you aren't ahead of the game, you'll have a much smaller chan…
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 02:55 AM
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I'm sure there could be some measures you could take to at least give yourself an edge, if it were winter. I mean, I used to think the prepper people were batshit conspiracy theorists, then I opened my eyes and saw how the world really is. Makes having a couple of cases of MREs and water filtration seem almost a necessary precaution.
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 02:51 AM
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You're not the first dude here to express that same opinion. It's like we can all explain each other's bitchy coworkers over the internet without having even met them, almost word for word. I could type out three pages explaining one that I work with, and you'd swear it was one from your office. I'm lucky to work in a field with very few of them, but also unlucky at the same time -they get even more special treatment because they're such a minority, and slowly they're taking over. Biding my time…
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 02:49 AM
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That's my brother, man. He was so fucked over by his last one that he is scared to death to even remotely try and leave his current one. He can't stand her and puts up with her. He called me last week to see what my input was on letting that car be repossessed. He has almost perfect credit and has his own truck paid off. I told him to let the fucker go, take the hit to his credit, then kick her to the curb. No sense in him paying $500/month for a brand new car that her lazy ass won't work for. O…
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 02:47 AM
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I've dealt with exactly that same kind of situation. They'll get morons to do all of the work for them, while making some kind of token but also HIGHLY visible effort, so it seems like they're the actual one behind everything. Then, they'll take all of the credit for it, while being displayed as some valuable asset, and will reap the benefits of the work done by everyone else. Not to mention these women have the bitchiest, nastiest, most rude attitude. Nor the constant complaining, drama stirrin…
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 02:44 AM
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It's almost as if ancient religious texts, from virtually any religion, was structured around getting people to be decent to one another, while prescribing awareness to how "evil" women are. As a not-so-much-religious person, who is neither here nor there on any particular one, I see "evil" not as being some dragon faced demon, but rather the bad things in a society that can bring about its demise. In ancient times, a society depended very heavily on everyone playing nice in order for it to work…
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 02:35 AM
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Now that's an idea I could get behind! Well, the sail boat part anyway. I like to think I've learned enough to survive off of the land if necessary, so if it comes to that, I really wouldn't mind retreating further into the mountains than I've already come.
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 02:21 AM
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It's crazy, right? I've been watching the collapse of Venezuela for awhile now. They went from being just another run-of-the-mill country, where things weren't great but they weren't god awful either, in just about 10 or so years, with the worst parts coming to fruition in the last 2-3. Socialism is a hell of a disease. That combined with the modern day ailments that pretty much any society is now facing was a recipe for disaster. Entire stores have completely empty shelves there. I haven't foll…
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 02:19 AM
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Then there's the whole problem of how do you explain the THOT sitting at her desk, with her smartphone in her face, all day long, with the same title as the guys out actually fucking doing the job, who still makes $4k/year more than they do while having less than half the time in and zero actual experience. "earnings" to me, means what you earn, not what you're given because the spineless cucks are so afraid of being metoo'd that they hand out paychecks to every cunt who wants one.
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 02:11 AM
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Yet more evidence of the societal problems we are plagued with. Nods to the old adage of "hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times" in that we have advanced as a society to the point where just about any sort of "struggle" or "oppression" that we, as a species, have had to endure is almost non-existent. Now, people have it so fucking good, that they have to make up hard times for sympathy points. There was a time not too l…
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 01:48 AM
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Add in social media/smartphone culture and you've got a recipe for the collapse.
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 01:40 AM
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Society and technology advanced so much that our lifespans got longer until they got shorter because of society and technology advancing.
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 01:39 AM
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I hope you're right, but my fear for society is that there are far too many BP'd thirsty simps out there for it to have any meaningful impact on the way the west is going. Feminism and marxist propaganda has emasculated entire swaths of our population and men are no longer men. Boys are being groomed to be weak ass soy depositories who's only goals in life will be to apologize for being male and to gather resources for THOTs.
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 01:38 AM
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I don't know why you're getting downvoted -probably because the same reasons fatpeoplehate got banned. People don't like to hear the truth. Talked to an old timer at work awhile back, guy had a lot of wisdom. Got on the subject of society and problems, and he brings up fat people. He says, "take a look around, how many healthy people do you see?" and points out that back in the 40s and 50s, a truly fat person was pretty rare. I mean, they were still around -mostly old dudes who didn't work outsi…
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 01:34 AM
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A lot of it, in my opinion, also stems from how easy divorce and taking kids away from the father is. No fault divorce and the proliferation of out-of-wedlock children has created an atmosphere where a woman can jerk a child right from their father's embrace with little to no consequence, and pretty much zero societal pressure. So they end up using that move as one of those "Ha, I got you now!" power plays. You piss them off by not giving them enough attention, and just like the poundmetoo movem…
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 01:25 AM
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It's almost as if their thirst for pussy is stronger than their thirst for power... like... as if they thirst for power so they can get pussy. Just ask ole silly billy the rapist.
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 01:20 AM
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It does indeed. I write, and have been in a few no-name publications before, so I can absolutely appreciate where you're coming from. A very well thought out point is one with fewer words, which is an art form that wordsmiths far better than me have mastered. I do, however, very much like exploring discussion points here. I think they are largely reflective of society as a whole, in its current form. My personal opinion is that if some great mind comes in here and learns from our discussion, per…
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 01:11 AM
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My understanding of his comment is that leading up until now, women have been important enough in his life to expend time/energy chasing. Given that he's 22, he's young enough that social media would have been exploding when he was going through puberty. Which, for me, equates to the girls his age essentially started out on the wrong foot and were sucked into that bullshit before they even had a chance to grow up. In turn, this lead to almost instant, on-demand dick for girls his age. Dude was l…
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 01:07 AM
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Pretty easy to articulate, honestly. "incel" has become a buzzword for those who pine so very hard at being accepted into society, with all of it's storybook fantasies about love and relationships. They're so obsessed with belonging to the rat-race that they become sour and bitter at the world, because their idea of what a relationship and pussy is all about has been warped from the beginning, since they've had no experience with either. They think it's some end-game prize of fulfillment and hap…
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 12:50 AM
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Thanks, that's what I'm actually looking at - robinhood. I have never traded before, aside from looking at my 401k statements, that's all the experience I have. I'd really like to learn the functional part of it before dedicating a long period of time or lots of money into it. So as I asked another guy here, do you think a decent strategy for learning would be to use something like Robinhood, where I'd put a small amount of money I'm okay with "losing" or as I call it, a fee for learning, and ma…
/r/MGTOW06/09/18 10:45 PM
1

That's all good advice, and is a solid bit of wisdom I will absolutely listen to. I'm more than willing to listen, which is why I'm here asking. I don't ask for help and then ignore the people telling me what I asked for. One route I've been thinking about, maybe you'll have some ideas -there's a free service called Robinhood. I learn by doing things. I don't learn as much by reading or listening to podcasts, and I absolutely need to have a grasp in my head of what I'm doing before I fully under…
/r/MGTOW06/09/18 10:38 PM
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See that's the knowledge I've been looking for. I think maybe I'm simply trying to find a strategy where I can get into it with a low-ish amount, and start playing very, very slowly. I'm not looking to make thousands of dollars on my first day, or even month. I'm just trying to figure out how this whole thing works and use it to my advantage. Swing trading actually sounds a lot more like what I'm interested in. Are there ways you could get into a swing trade, where you'd hold onto something for …
/r/MGTOW06/09/18 10:07 PM
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Yes, that's what I'm working on, fuck you money. I have enough to survive if I needed some unforeseen expense, and make enough to pay my bills and coast by. I'm saving a bit from my regular pay every payday. I'm also super secure in my regular job. I don't have any real worry about going anywhere, I've been in my career long enough to just be on the starting days of "crusty old guy", where I'm starting to see yearly raises and have been promoted a few times. My next milestone is going to be fuck…
/r/MGTOW06/09/18 09:55 PM
3

On the subject of philosophy, and how we view the world. Another guy here suggested that I indeed write some things down. Thought maybe others would be interested in hearing them, so I listened to him. Over the course of the foreseeable future, I plan to write about what I see as inevitable truths to what we as men face, and how our lives are impacted by society in a largely negative way, which is why we choose to instead go our own way, outside of "society". Many topics will be explored, but mo…
/r/MGTOW31/08/18 08:29 AM
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That, and continuing the emotional relationship they have with the top orbiter in secret because we all know those phones are like the ark of the fucking covenant in how secret they must be kept.
/r/MGTOW31/08/18 05:12 AM
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It's annoying as shit. I try to think about it, larger picture, and get upset with the whole situation rather than one particular individual. It's easy to just yell at someone for being on their phone 24/7, but it doesn't give you a true understanding of the entire disease. This social media/smartphone thing is just as much a symptom of a larger ailment as MGTOW is. Edit:Guess what I'm trying to say is that I feel like trying to think philosophically about life, and understand why things are hap…
/r/MGTOW31/08/18 05:08 AM
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It is largely a symptom of current society, but it has always been this way. I think it has, however, been cyclical with the state of society(ies) over the course of history. In addition, I also think our most recent version of society and the technology within it has multiplied the effect by many powers. We're watching it happen in fast-forward whereas before it happened over a longer period of time. Remains to be seen how exactly it all comes crumbling down, but it's certainly a societal probl…
/r/MGTOW31/08/18 05:06 AM
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I for one am sick of the term anxiety being thrown around like it has become a plague upon the land. It's normal to feel ACTUAL anxiety on some levels, and some people do have serious issues with anxiety. However, THOTs who get neurotic from the hamster running in overdrive is not anxiety. There's a thing called growing up, becoming a functioning adult, and taking responsibility for your life. Constantly being in victim status and having the stones to say that you're oppressed is completely chil…
/r/MGTOW31/08/18 04:59 AM
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I feel like just about everybody, save for the most elder generations, has at least had some exposure to the addictions of social media, if we're being honest with ourselves. Even those of us who freed ourselves from the chains very likely had some sort of experience that was either very close to, or was full blown addiction. I know I personally used to be very BP'd, simp'd, and full of bleeding heart liberal notions. I was very unaware of the world and the dangers within it. Then, I grew up, an…
/r/MGTOW31/08/18 04:51 AM
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I'm not sure why you were downvoted, because it feels like you spoke the truth. However, I think the reason is likely that we aren't included with the "incels" here, but rather society as a whole (read: women and simps) like to conflate the two incorrectly, because it eases the cognitive dissonance in their minds. When in reality, incels are people who very much want and desire to be accepted into society. The pine for the chance to meet whatever female they've made up in their imaginations. The…
/r/MGTOW31/08/18 04:43 AM
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Like OP, I have lots of thoughts I like to put on paper about our philosophies as men. Would guys really be interested in buying books about this? I've thought about doing it, but I figured it would be be tossed in the garbage by any publishing house.
/r/MGTOW28/08/18 01:19 AM
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My opinion is that while we are not inherently part of any political leanings, the current climate in western society has largely injected politics into virtually all of life. You have feminists and SJWs who must, MUST be in absolute control of everyone else they scream from the rooftops about oppression because they're snowflakes who grew up in an everyone gets a trophy world, devoid of any responsibility -and they're hitting an age where reality kicks in and they suddenly have to deal with con…
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 02:00 AM
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his/her account seems to be a throwaway spiraling down into an abyss of self-hatred being projected onto conservatives and men in general, based on the subs that they have gone to comment in. Oh, and there seems to be a theme with cock obsession, so there's that. Sounds like someone in crisis, to me. Probably got their feelings hurt by reality or something.
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 01:38 AM
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Imagine being so miserable and depressed in life, that you have to seek out a sub on reddit where men congregate to talk about men stuff, and inject hatred and vitriol. Or maybe him/her/xhe/xher heard that people talk about finance on here, and came to find out what the pay gap is between all of the genders.
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 01:36 AM
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Salt the fields and burn the crops, leave nothing for the enemy.
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 01:26 AM
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Ever notice how many women are on board with HOAs? Not to say it's an exclusive thing, but if you ever get a chance to look at those things objectively, look at how many women are actually involved in it. Even if a dude is living with his wife and supposedly is the one doing all the shit, bet you good money his wife is the one actually involved in the association.
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 01:24 AM
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I discovered my love for the gym when I didn't care about anything. Figured why not. Now I feel terrible when I miss a day. Dude above you should try it.
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 01:02 AM
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legit laughed my ass off man
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 12:57 AM
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I have some personal thoughts on the subject that some people don't like -but I consider this: why would you want to intentionally put someone into this world, in this society, as it's crumbling and turning to shit? Even the surrogate thing can come back and bite you in the ass these days, especially if you live in an area that has liberal courts that can be manipulated by SJW and feminist desires. At the current speed in which society is heading down shit creek, it's basically wishing for your …
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 12:55 AM
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We, as men, are starting to catch on I think to this method. I'm hoping that within the next couple of years it REALLY catches on. You can't expect to do this shit in the workplace and it not bite you in the ass. Even the bluepilled cuckzones like google will eventually start to lose money. Every business or place of employment is hurt by these things, the question is for how long will they remain in business/functional.
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 12:26 AM
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I like your thinking, it is indeed fun to think about, but as I replied to OP earlier -the real thing to do, when you figure out what is going on, is to keep your mouth shut, work on improving yourself and your situation, padding your resume -and then with time find a new and better employer and use it as a pay-scale stepping stone. I mean, even if you could have envisioned yourself retiring there -can you really now? If they're going to play those games, and are not willing to put an end to it,…
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 12:22 AM
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You're right dude, it isn't fair. It's very fucking far from being fair. But you know what? It is okay to be pissed off about that. It is okay to be burned out because of it. I know exactly what you're saying, because I feel the same way. But at the end of the day, you have to focus on what's in your best interest. I've caught myself getting so pissed off at the one I deal with, that I've had these thoughts of "well what if I do 'x' to piss her off, that'll show her!" then I realize I'd just be …
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 12:12 AM
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I'm going to try and relate to you a bit here, and give some advice. I was in a pretty similar situation when I was your age, minus the money. I was in a terrible pit of despair and depression, having grown up in a house of turmoil and chaos. I moved out when I was 16, lived on my own and was struggling. I made decent enough money, but wasn't really doing well in anything else. I was 9-5 in front of a computer every day, getting fat, growing more lonely and detached every day. I turned to alcoho…
/r/MGTOW26/08/18 11:56 PM
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Only thing I can suggest to you, is that if you aren't going to leave, you need to cover your ass. These women are so vindictive, that they'll try to destroy you for any little thing. Even so much as not singing to her tune, will put a target on your back. If you realize what's really going on, as you clearly do, that also puts a target on your back. They don't like being exposed. They're so used to having people under their control and manipulation that they're not seen for what they truly are …
/r/MGTOW26/08/18 11:39 PM
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I work with an old guy who is almost in your exact shoes. He's a couple years younger, but has been single for most of his adult life leading up to now. He's one of the coolest guys I know, happy and content with his dog and his life experience. I really look up to him and consider him a really good friend. I hope I'm in his shoes when I'm that experienced.
/r/MGTOW26/08/18 11:30 PM
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Not the mind we deserve, but the one we need.
/r/MGTOW26/08/18 11:03 PM
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Holy fuck, thank you for sharing those! Mike is a goddamned talented speaker and a realist. That touches on so many things that I personally feel connected to. It was great watching that. I get so fucking flustered and frustrated with useless people who don't want to work, it effects MY work by being so goddamned frustrated with them. I work in a very "dirty jobs" field, highly specialized and it also happens to be one of the most dangerous fields in the US. Actually, it falls under the number o…
/r/MGTOW24/08/18 07:53 AM
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Very good talk with lots of enlightening points. I've been discussing on here tonight how our society as a whole is sick and turning into some freakish monster of what it used to be. And in this brave new world, we have to contend with the vindictive nature of women. Many of the "adults" who are up and coming are of the millennial generation, and as such are extremely entitled with no real sense of work ethic or responsibility. This is just magnified in women. The speaker goes onto talk about th…
/r/MGTOW24/08/18 06:52 AM
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I certainly agree with that, too. Those are things that detract from my conservative stance. The thing that I have issue with, is losing ground on the rest of the issues by putting support into a party that has no honest chance of succeeding. I would have loved to have seen a libertarian or independent candidate surpass both parties in 2016, but it seems to me that the powers that be won't actually allow a third party. What they do allow, however, is a dog and pony show to give the illusion that…
/r/MGTOW24/08/18 05:56 AM
1

So when women didn't actually even have an income, or if they did, it was very little, that must have been why all of those old-timey black and white pictures are so fucking filthy. Sexy selfies today are nothing compared to the straight up pornography that grammy did with ye ole' film camera every fucking second. Reads like a trash THOT wanting her cake and eating it too. Oh, look at how sexy I am, fuck me Chad, do dirty things to me, praise me simps, give me all that sweet attention so that it…
/r/MGTOW24/08/18 05:45 AM
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I made a pretty big post in the thread, used to consider myself libertarian. I feel like the current labels we have are all being watered down into nice little marxist identity politics compartments. I don't have a true answer, just observations. It's hard to NOT have a label when describing ones politics, even if it's due to the grammatical necessity -but it still feels weird putting yourself into a description that doesn't 100% fit your beliefs. Perhaps the two major affiliations are just not …
/r/MGTOW24/08/18 05:38 AM
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That's a refreshing use of the term. I've grown accustomed to it being synonymous with soy-laden feminist worshipers who have the muscle mass of a snail, and wear masks to protests claiming they're going to disrupt the patriarchy, and use the term "anarchist" because it's trendy and fashionable. I'll have a friendly and respectful debate with you anytime man, you're okay.
/r/MGTOW24/08/18 05:34 AM
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I am not entirely sure that "conservative" is the word that I still use to describe myself. I did a lot of growing up about 5 years ago. I used to be very wishy washy about political stances and mostly just agreed with whatever got me the most agreement from my peers, whatever that might have been at any given moment. Then, when I started to (unknowingly) swallow some redpills, I went down a rabbit hole. I came out on the other side during the 2016 US presidential election. I used to consider my…
/r/MGTOW24/08/18 05:22 AM
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That's a pretty common trait among feminists and women in general these days, I've started to notice. Especially after getting sick of the shit, and joining like minded men in this sub, who also see the same thing. Then you realize you aren't just getting mind-fucked, but this shit really does happen. So many times I've seen females, especially in the work place, completely and totally fail to take a single shred or even hint of responsibility for their actions. Then that means they must admit t…
/r/MGTOW22/08/18 11:48 PM
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Just like women in the workplace, there will be an excuse for everything, even if that excuse makes absolutely zero sense. If that were to be given a shot, I don't care how good of an advantage they'd have, there would be SOME reason why they were "set up to fail" and it would be the fault of men. Doesn't matter if you had a magic wand up your ass that you could wave around all, "BEGONITUS THOTTITUS" and BOOM! They have a city with 10,000 year supply of any material, food, water known to man, an…
/r/MGTOW21/08/18 11:56 PM
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Been an active user there since 2015. Don't participate in discussion so much as read and try to understand things. I noticed the same thing, over time. There are users who came there after finding a redpill in the wild, and consuming it. Then, once they're there and more open to more truths, they start to question things and understand more around them.
/r/MGTOW19/08/18 06:01 AM
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I agree with your sentiment, and think you're coming from the right place with it, but the reality is that we live in the real world. I think any functioning person would be happy with any sort of utopia you could imagine, including free quality healthcare and education -but utopias do not exist. Somebody has to pay for it. Human beings are motivated by success and economics. In the example of health care, obviously the industry wouldn't just collapse overnight -far from it, look at Canada. But …
/r/MGTOW19/08/18 04:05 AM
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It's the same in the US. Smartphones and social media have given them an addiction more powerful than cocaine. They can get instant validation from thousands of cucks at any given time, from anywhere with cell service. If you want to see one go through withdrawals, just go someplace that doesn't have cell service. They'll absolutely freak out, their attitude turns nasty and they're tweaking out for their fix, with no way of getting it. Ask any woman what the wifi password is for any place she fr…
/r/MGTOW18/08/18 11:59 PM
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Tinglz will always override anything of substance. Doesn't matter how "real" and beneficial it is for them, once the tinglz start flowing, all rationality and logical thinking go out the window. Their biology is screaming at them, "Chase! Chase! Mate! Mate! Get Chad's gene's intertwined with your own!" in some sort of pre-civilization instinct, and then once they've had their fun, the lizard brain gives the wheel back to the more logical thoughts, which then regret the whoring and they realize t…
/r/MGTOW18/08/18 11:54 PM
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Yes, it does. But it also includes any other aspect of identity politics. Once you start pandering to in-groups, for the sake of pandering to in-groups, you're losing the market viability that businesses have who only are concerned with talent and productivity. This is not to mean companies cannot be successful with women or any other "identity", far from it -there are some who don't put up with that bullshit and quickly remove the cancer before it grows. There's a reason companies who have star…
/r/MGTOW18/08/18 11:21 PM
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It absolutely is cancer, but you have to have a spine and make sure when you're standing your ground, you aren't also bowing before someone higher than you. You have to temporarily remove the "subordinate vs. supervisor" aspect of the relationship you have at work, and be more "person to person" when standing up for yourself. If they smell a hint of insecurity, weakness, or some fault when you're standing your ground, they'll cut you down. Make it known that you aren't to be fucked with, immedia…
/r/MGTOW18/08/18 07:31 PM
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It's far easier to get a foot in the door when your vagina is holding it open for you.
/r/MGTOW18/08/18 07:14 PM
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Did you interject and explain that business is for adults who put business ahead of politics? The business of business is to make money, not pander to in-group preferences. I hope you stood your ground on the fact that candidates are either qualified or not, regardless of gender or any other identity politics attribute. Hiring panels should be blind to all of the above -it comes down to merit and ability to perform and make the business profitable. If you didn't, then respectfully, you're part o…
/r/MGTOW18/08/18 07:05 PM
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Just wait until they figure out there's a field out there that men get to enjoy. They'll find some way to get their tentacles in, all because it makes them miserable that a man would enjoy an occupation dominated by men. Unless you're a small business with 3 or 4 employees, most places are going to be impacted by "muh diversity" at some point. Once they get one or two women at the job, they'll realize that they are the minority and can sit back and be lazy, have nasty attitudes, never break a sw…
/r/MGTOW18/08/18 07:02 PM
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It's been my experience those things still do not matter. They need that sweet diversity hire, so they look like they're not discriminating. You know, the jobs that get handed out where they can just shove their phone in their face all day and get paid. I've literally seen it with a job that has physical requirements in the description, that they're not able to meet.
/r/MGTOW15/08/18 09:50 PM
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You're right on every level, spot fucking on. Current chief is about 1.5 years out. I don't think they'd even give a young buck a chance, precisely because they know he WOULD remove her. They know our feelings at this point, and are so afraid of the consequences they're just praying they ride out the storm. But what, then, happens when chief DOES retire? My money is on them giving her the job, to be honest. And if that happens, I'll quit on the spot. Over 15 years of service will end right then …
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 11:07 PM
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That has also been tossed around. You've got 10+ year guys who are now secretly talking about applying elsewhere. One in particular, is likely one of the best guys we have in the entire district, already has applied and interviews in a couple of weeks. Hell, I'm looking myself. So it's at this weird boil over point, where we have all had enough, we're all on the same page with the bullshit, and are hoping something will finally be done, or if not, we're looking to get out. I do feel that all of …
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 10:58 PM
1

You mean, less pay, more hazard, more responsibilities, none of the get out of jail free passes. You know, equality.
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 10:52 PM
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Yea man, it's getting to that point. The guys are already talking, and have been quietly, sort of the here and there comment about something needing to be done for pete's sake. That probably started about 5 months ago. The last month or two, people are getting more vocal about it. You get a couple of guys together and they will express the same frustrations openly. Problem is, as we have all been talking, we're finding out that almost all of us have gone over the chief's head, straight to the bi…
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 10:50 PM
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Man, it's totally the same in my profession. We do a lot of hard labor. Digging fireline isn't easy, but there are also days where you do heavy equipment work, rehab work, and then on the really slow days -paperwork and training. There's one bitch in particular that has all but destroyed the moral of my entire crew. Might be a buck twenty soaking wet, toothpick arms, and full on lesbo look, but is far too happy with the CC to be a lesbo. Loves, fucking LOVES to pretend she's some hot shit, bossi…
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 10:39 PM
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Yep, same shit bro. And don't you fucking dare mention that their shit is as clean and bright as it was when it came out of the goddamned plastic at supply. They'll immediately have a melt down level panic attack, and throw out all sorts of excuses and accusatory statements. "Well, I just know how to look professional! You all can't figure out how to use a fucking washer!!" Yea, okay snowflake. We definitely need to be washing clothes as our top priority on the fire line/front line. Makes my blo…
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 01:15 AM
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I've been going this way for some time now, but only "officially" looked to the site about a year ago. Had a terrible, terrible mother who destroyed my father, and then went on to party and ride the CC without regard for anyone. Both parents were a piece of work, if I'm being honest with myself. Kind of fucked me up a little, been on my own since I was 15, had a rough start at adult life. Ended up getting my shit together, found a career where I can put in a hard days labor and feel like I've ac…
/r/MGTOW13/08/18 09:15 AM
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