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| 1 | Men need to stop justifying why they don't want to date women with high body countsThat's fine. But your opinion 'that' how it works' is not relevant here. Shoo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/22 07:17 PM |
| 1 | Men need to stop justifying why they don't want to date women with high body countsI'd say really anything over 0 causes some revulsion, but the intensity of the feelings increases the bigger the number. Ultimately depends on the man though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/22 06:04 PM |
| 1 | Being "hookup material" is better than being "boyfriend material"The purpose of a relationship is sex. As I stated - if the sex came to an end, then so does the relationship. What you are describing is friendship. A friend is someone you can talk to, grow with, share in life with, etc. You do not need to call that a romantic relationship. The difference between a romantic relationship, and a friendship is sex. and okay but sometimes exes remain friends so they don’t actually lose the person. how do you explain being sad in THAT situation? They aren't as close… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/22 09:37 AM |
| 1 | Being "hookup material" is better than being "boyfriend material"I am being concise. You're just bringing up useless things that have no bearing on the argument being made. Whether its most or all is totally irrelevant to the central thesis, and if that's your issue then we agree and its pointless to keep going. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/22 09:34 AM |
| 1 | Being "hookup material" is better than being "boyfriend material"My points have been good. You haven't addressed them. have hyper focused on the semantics, and use/defend using basic robot language. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/22 01:51 AM |
| 1 | Being "hookup material" is better than being "boyfriend material"NOT all men are the same. How do you explain men being sad about breakups even when they have a rebound to give them sex? People get sad when they lose someone they are close to, obviously. If he stopped having sex with me for no reason, i’d leave him too lmao so that proves nothing. WE want sex too. Sure. Doesn't change my point. even rich and famous men settle down with wives. Because it's too much effort. dehumanizing thing would be to get in a relationship and lie about “loving” the other pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/22 01:49 AM |
| 1 | Being "hookup material" is better than being "boyfriend material"I don't think you get the point. Sex is the motivation to be with women romantically. Without sex/physical attraction, it's just a friend. 'Relationships' are the cost men have to pay to get regular sex with women instead of putting in the work on a regular basis. Guys like Drake don't need to commit relationships to be friends with women and also fuck them. Regular guys do. In order to have regular sex with a likable woman, you need to be in a relationship. Here's a test: If you stopped fucking… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/22 03:37 AM |
| 1 | Being "hookup material" is better than being "boyfriend material"We're debating really dumb semantics at this point. Stupid convo, waste of time. Do you have anything of substance to say? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/22 03:31 AM |
| 1 | Being "hookup material" is better than being "boyfriend material"That's dumb. Second of all, being loved isn't unrealistic. Being loved unconditionally is. You are are only loved by men who don't have the capacity to acquire as much sex as they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/22 11:45 PM |
| 1 | Being "hookup material" is better than being "boyfriend material"lol. i have literally seen them try to touch on him and ask him to do stuff at parties. it happens often. That's cool. It still does not invalidate anything that I said. i find it funny that you say no man in the world has unlimited options and then you say “look at the behavior of men who actually have infinite options” They don't have options in the same way women do - they have to spend time, effort, energy, etc. These are men like Drake, not some average becky. just because you can’t imagine… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/22 11:43 PM |
| 1 | Being "hookup material" is better than being "boyfriend material"No, he couldn't. I am telling you, as a man, that no man on Earth can do that. No one. Having women 'throw themselves at you' is not meaningful. Everyone thinks their boyfriend is attractive and could pull other women or else you probably wouldn't be with them. Yes, I can. Redpill says AWALT, and I can say AMALT. The reason I can say this is because we can look at the behavior of men who actually have infinite options and see what they do. Your boyfriend does not have infinite options in the way… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/22 10:53 PM |
| 1 | Being "hookup material" is better than being "boyfriend material"No, it's a dumb robot line that every woman here repeats at some point. A man can be primarily interested in sex, and still not want a committed relationship. It doesn't mean he doesn't see you as a person, or not human, or whatever dumb shit you just implied. It doesn't mean they don't value connections, it's that they don't need to agree to a relationship in order to get that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/22 10:51 PM |
| 1 | Being "hookup material" is better than being "boyfriend material"That's fine, I always recommend people with unrealistic standards die as virgins. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/22 10:49 PM |
| 1 | Being "hookup material" is better than being "boyfriend material"No, he couldn't. No man, unless they have super model good looks can get regular sex without a tremendous amount of effort, charm, spending money, late nights out, and so on. A woman could get regular sex 24/7 just by existing. No man has the ability to do that. Your boyfriend probably liked you well enough, didn't want to run around wasting his time with women, and settled for you. It's nothing personal, it's just how men are. Don't say stupid shit about 'treating women as people.' Those regurg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/22 11:06 AM |
| 1 | Being "hookup material" is better than being "boyfriend material"All men have that mindset, making them wait doesn't change the end outcome. Men have the ability to wait to fuck a woman for months and will never speak to them again. If that's what he wants to do, making him wait changes nothing. If you want to avoid sleeping with men who will probably ditch you, go for guys who are unattractive that can't get sex easily elsewhere. Otherwise you are always taking a gamble no matter what. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/22 11:01 AM |
| 1 | Being "hookup material" is better than being "boyfriend material"Pretty much. If men could get regular sex with the women they wanted without committing, relationships would be much more uncommon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/22 09:51 AM |
| 1 | How can you know if the man you are dating is into redpill stuff?That's why RP helps them become not angry, and accepting of female nature. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/22 05:52 PM |
| 1 | For the women who say "a person's past shouldn't matter with regards to who they had sex with", would you be fine dating/marrying a man who slept with dozens of prostitutes before he met you, provided he got tested and was fully clean? Why or why not?Again I don’t see the point in living the life you believe to be wonderful. You seem to have lots of money to spend but that’s not necessarily wonderful. Traveling during the pandemic isn’t a flex. To some people, being rooted in one place for 2 years has been hell. Being able to travel, see the world, be outside, explore new things - has been awesome and invigorating experience. You might not think it's a flex, but I can guarantee you a lot of people would love to have my life. Money doesn’t eq… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 06:52 PM |
| 1 | For the women who say "a person's past shouldn't matter with regards to who they had sex with", would you be fine dating/marrying a man who slept with dozens of prostitutes before he met you, provided he got tested and was fully clean? Why or why not?Expectations have nuance and there are fixed characteristics and changeable ones. I’m speaking only of changeable ones as they are the ones that can make people arrogant assholes. But why? You haven't demonstrated how they are different besides saying they aren't. His job however his marriage and family took a hit to that. That’s why I don’t think heavily career oriented people should have families. No one that wants to be great can have a family now? Only mediocre people can? You're insane. Wea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 06:44 PM |
| 1 | For the women who say "a person's past shouldn't matter with regards to who they had sex with", would you be fine dating/marrying a man who slept with dozens of prostitutes before he met you, provided he got tested and was fully clean? Why or why not?It's cool you cook and bake competitively, but that's obviously a personal choice that consumes a lot of time. I used to be a competitive martial artist and a designer, and that was an 'hour a day' technically, but it was also exhausting. You have to make trade-offs. You provide money and after a certain point that doesn’t mean anything especially given women can make their own money. I see no value in big homes, fancy cars or elaborate vacations. I see no need to live such a wasteful life. It's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 06:30 PM |
| 1 | For the women who say "a person's past shouldn't matter with regards to who they had sex with", would you be fine dating/marrying a man who slept with dozens of prostitutes before he met you, provided he got tested and was fully clean? Why or why not?Nope my point relates only to things you have control over. You’re fundamentally misunderstanding my point, I’m applying this exclusively to aspects of your life that are within your control. I get that what's you're doing. I'm saying that it's no different from things you can't control. Expectations are expectations regardless of if you can't control it or not. You can be a good husband but like you said there are so many hours in the day and if you choose marriage and family that should always… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 06:22 PM |
| 1 | For the women who say "a person's past shouldn't matter with regards to who they had sex with", would you be fine dating/marrying a man who slept with dozens of prostitutes before he met you, provided he got tested and was fully clean? Why or why not?Of course I can cook or clean or else I'd be dead. But with only so much time and energy in a day I am not excellent, and neither are you I'd imagine. My guess is you are OK, nothing to write home about. Basic. And it's fine to be basic, but that is by no means 'high quality.' High quality is in the upper tier of the lifestyle or skills we are talking about. You do not provide anything high quality, from what you've described. I do. I provide a high quality lifestyle, travel, and health. My wife… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 06:11 PM |
| 1 | For the women who say "a person's past shouldn't matter with regards to who they had sex with", would you be fine dating/marrying a man who slept with dozens of prostitutes before he met you, provided he got tested and was fully clean? Why or why not?It is conceptually different as there are physical characteristics that we have no control over. Skills and lifestyles are mostly in individual control. Who cares whether you have control over it or not? Your point is that you shouldn't want more than what you can provide yourself. Why then doesn't this apply to physical traits? You chose work that pulls most of your time. That’s a personal choice but being hyper career oriented is a huge red flag as it means child rearing band care of the home … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 06:04 PM |
| 1 | How can you know if the man you are dating is into redpill stuff?That's what the RP calls 'anger phase.' A lot of men are angry after a lifetime of rejection. Most RP guys don't feel this way though. They think women are just regular people, and understand what women generally find attractive and what they want, regardless of what they outwardly express. Guys like Future and athletes are obviously redpilled, they just didn't a website to tell them that. They learned by experiencing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 05:56 PM |
| 1 | For the women who say "a person's past shouldn't matter with regards to who they had sex with", would you be fine dating/marrying a man who slept with dozens of prostitutes before he met you, provided he got tested and was fully clean? Why or why not?Wearing makeup isn’t inherently feminine and woman isn’t less feminine for abstaining from it. For all intents and purposes, it is absolutely more feminine than masculine. We're getting to the point where you're denying reality, and I'm not interested in debating reality. Physical characteristics that are uncontrollable aren’t the same thing. Why not? If you're short why should you feel you want or deserve a tall man when you don't posses those traits? This is conceptually no different from your… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 05:51 PM |
| 1 | For the women who say "a person's past shouldn't matter with regards to who they had sex with", would you be fine dating/marrying a man who slept with dozens of prostitutes before he met you, provided he got tested and was fully clean? Why or why not?Yes but when you’re single it’s just you so if you don’t have a skill set it shows an ingrained level of laziness that you hope with be fixed by a partner. But we're not talking about being single, are we? We're talking about teamwork and partnership. What you want out of a partnership is not the same as what someone may want from their single life. For example, if I'm just shooting hoops by myself obviously I don't need to have an amazing 3 point shot or need to be able to dunk. But if I was pl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 05:35 PM |
| 1 | For the women who say "a person's past shouldn't matter with regards to who they had sex with", would you be fine dating/marrying a man who slept with dozens of prostitutes before he met you, provided he got tested and was fully clean? Why or why not?Wearing make-up is feminine and in most men, unattractive. Saying that a man should be willing to make themselves unattractive before they expect something they find attractive is utterly moronic. It's like saying women shouldn't want men who are tall unless they themselves are tall. Saying you want a woman to cook and clean because you’re “too busy” has got to be one of the more arrogant and entitled statements you could make. If you think that's arrogant, then you don't actually understand wha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 05:29 PM |
| 1 | For the women who say "a person's past shouldn't matter with regards to who they had sex with", would you be fine dating/marrying a man who slept with dozens of prostitutes before he met you, provided he got tested and was fully clean? Why or why not?You're not responding to my points, and just repeating the same things over and over. Why are you here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 05:27 PM |
| 4 | How can you know if the man you are dating is into redpill stuff?That's how men talk to each other. Not how men talk to women. Women get traumatized reading RedPill because they don't realize that's just how a lot of guys talk about everything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 05:25 PM |
| 1 | For the women who say "a person's past shouldn't matter with regards to who they had sex with", would you be fine dating/marrying a man who slept with dozens of prostitutes before he met you, provided he got tested and was fully clean? Why or why not?You decide personally when it’s different but I expect nothing skill or lifestyle based that I can’t do myself. Then you're not being intelligent with your relationships. To each their own though. I hold myself to a high standard and wouldn’t never be so arrogant as to look for a partner to fill my own inadequacy It has nothing to do with filling inadequacy - it has do with skillsets and priorities. When you a participating with groups of human beings - a team - it is most effective when people … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 09:00 AM |
| 1 | For the women who say "a person's past shouldn't matter with regards to who they had sex with", would you be fine dating/marrying a man who slept with dozens of prostitutes before he met you, provided he got tested and was fully clean? Why or why not?Why isn't it a lifestyle? Because...you say so? There's a lot of things that go into cooking. Going shopping for groceries, learning how to cook, buying the equipment, making time during the day, meeting up with other cooking enthusiasts, washing the dishes and cleaning up, etc. Not all of those things are some incredibly skillsets. You are drawing an arbitrary boundary on what's a skill and what's a lifestyle for no reason at all. Second, not everyone needs to develop every skill. Relationships… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 08:56 AM |
| 1 | For the women who say "a person's past shouldn't matter with regards to who they had sex with", would you be fine dating/marrying a man who slept with dozens of prostitutes before he met you, provided he got tested and was fully clean? Why or why not?Yeah. That's fucking retarded lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 08:48 AM |
| 1 | For the women who say "a person's past shouldn't matter with regards to who they had sex with", would you be fine dating/marrying a man who slept with dozens of prostitutes before he met you, provided he got tested and was fully clean? Why or why not?Absolutely not, you're being completely pedantic. Your personal style is absolutely a part of your lifestyle. It's even in the name. Makeup, fashion, haircare is all a part of the lifestyle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 03:04 AM |
| 1 | For the women who say "a person's past shouldn't matter with regards to who they had sex with", would you be fine dating/marrying a man who slept with dozens of prostitutes before he met you, provided he got tested and was fully clean? Why or why not?What you're saying makes no sense. So if someone's version of a healthy lifestyle is minimally taking care of themself (going to see the doctor regularly, dieting on occasion, walking) and my version of a healthy lifestyle is 4x daily exercise, high protein meals and strict dieting, no splurging on candies/treat, etc then we have the same lifestyles because we are both doing vaguely healthy things? You're missing my point, which is by your own definition, a lifestyle is just a collection of char… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 03:01 AM |
| 1 | For the women who say "a person's past shouldn't matter with regards to who they had sex with", would you be fine dating/marrying a man who slept with dozens of prostitutes before he met you, provided he got tested and was fully clean? Why or why not?You're deviating again. There is a HUGE amount of variability when it comes to lifestyles as you describe them. You just admitted that cooking, for example, is something ALL humans should be able to do. A man who can baseline take care of himself is incredibly different from a man wanting a woman who maintains a very clean home and cooks good food, for example. There is nothing at all wrong with wanting that, if you are providing equivalent if not equal or greater value elsewhere. 'Health minded… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 02:56 AM |
| 1 | For the women who say "a person's past shouldn't matter with regards to who they had sex with", would you be fine dating/marrying a man who slept with dozens of prostitutes before he met you, provided he got tested and was fully clean? Why or why not?Even this makes no sense. You are using lifestyle to mean a collection of skills, and people want different things there. Many women who care about the homemaker' do not expect a man to also have the same lifestyle. Many men who have a fitness heavy lifestyle don't expect their girlfriends to be the same as them. Men who are in a particular field or career don't expect their wives to do the same job. What you are describing is black and white dumb shit. Normal people don't make decisions on thei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/22 05:09 PM |
| 1 | For the women who say "a person's past shouldn't matter with regards to who they had sex with", would you be fine dating/marrying a man who slept with dozens of prostitutes before he met you, provided he got tested and was fully clean? Why or why not?You are twisting lifestyle to mean whatever you want. First you said participating in different sports is a lifestyle, now you're saying it's a skillset, but you also said that just participating in a sport like running is part of a 'healthy lifestyle..' You can't say that financial decision making, fitness, etc is part of the lifestyle but cooking is not. It makes no sense. As you just said, cooking for oneself is a baseline function in the same way everything else you mentioned is a baseline f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/22 05:03 PM |
| 1 | For the women who say "a person's past shouldn't matter with regards to who they had sex with", would you be fine dating/marrying a man who slept with dozens of prostitutes before he met you, provided he got tested and was fully clean? Why or why not?Beauty culture is absolutely a lifestyle. You're 100% wrong. Women find men appealing because they are attractive to them, not based on how much sex they've had. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/22 04:57 PM |
| 14 | How do you think relationships and dating will change when women out earn men?Women will never outearn men. They may earn more than the average man, but the top earners will always be men. The women will gravitate to those men, as they have throughout history. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/22 06:21 AM |
| 2 | For the women who say "a person's past shouldn't matter with regards to who they had sex with", would you be fine dating/marrying a man who slept with dozens of prostitutes before he met you, provided he got tested and was fully clean? Why or why not?Do you think it was using the prostitutes that skewed his understanding of sex, or that he had a skewed understanding of sex and therefore used prosititutes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/22 06:18 AM |
| 0 | For the women who say "a person's past shouldn't matter with regards to who they had sex with", would you be fine dating/marrying a man who slept with dozens of prostitutes before he met you, provided he got tested and was fully clean? Why or why not?Bro, your arguments are insane. Cooking is not a lifestyle choice? In what way? How is 'being fit' a lifestyle choice but 'cooking regular meals' is not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/22 06:17 AM |
| 1 | For the women who say "a person's past shouldn't matter with regards to who they had sex with", would you be fine dating/marrying a man who slept with dozens of prostitutes before he met you, provided he got tested and was fully clean? Why or why not?People who take these sort of hardline stances are ridiculous goofballs. I have yet to meet many women who would be attracted to a man who wears make-up and walks around in a skirt (despite every liberal woman on PPD saying they would TOTES be into it because good make-up is just so sexy on men yo) yet obviously those same women have no problem with applying a highly feminine aesthetic to themselves. There is no problem at all for wanting something that you yourself aren't, so long as you put in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/22 06:14 AM |
| 5 | Do most men actually want to be with a traditional woman?Yeah, it is. Unless you're a football player, jock, or tall most men are happy to have an attractive girlfriend they're really into and that's about it. Then those dudes get left or cheated on and aggressively pursue pussy at that point, but most men I've ever met aren't pining for greener pastures during their first, loving relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/22 07:09 AM |
| 2 | Do most men actually want to be with a traditional woman?Goalpost shifting. I never said men don't have casual sex, only that your framing of men riding a 'pussy carousel' is fucking retarded. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/22 07:07 AM |
| 3 | Do most men actually want to be with a traditional woman?You realize the number of men who 'fuck whores' is like...5% of the population rate? The vast, vast majority of men are not smashing pussy every weekend. You are speaking to two, totally different audiences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/22 03:02 AM |
| 4 | Do most men actually want to be with a traditional woman?Nah, I totally disagree. I think the vast majority of men would be cool with a girl they were crazy about in high school or college. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/22 02:56 AM |
| 6 | What are these “needs” and why are they not being met?hahaha what the fuck | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 06:20 AM |
| 1 | Almost every complaint about women here men also do, or there's a "male equivalent."Both men and women do the same things, but men and women WANT different things hence the reactions are different. For example, I've had my wife tell me that men who are vain and take a lot of photos of themselves are unattractive to her. My wife is very attractive, and she is vain and takes a lot of photos of herself. She understands this contradiction but it doesn't change what she finds attractive. You can make the same case for something like height. In the same way, a man who is sexually exp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/22 05:20 PM |
| 4 | Some men seem to prefer “leading women on” as opposed to having a “FWB” or “FB” — why is that?It's less about feeling used and disposable and more about not being convenient. If a Chad has many options, a FWB who chooses the time and place is less valuable than someone who is ready to go whenever he wants. It's 11pm on a Tuesday, I don't want to be at your beck and call because you have a vagina. I've been in these sort of relationships and they are more annoying than anything. The woman will call when she's horny, which is at totally random and unpredictable times. I actually have a sch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/22 05:08 PM |
| 2 | Why "just be yourself" is the best dating adviceI never mentioned what women find attractive. All I said was that understanding what women want and giving it to them is intelligent. And i suspect what you think women find attractive, isn't so. Who gives a fuck what you suspect? lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/22 05:27 PM |
| 4 | Why "just be yourself" is the best dating adviceYou guys live outside reality so here's the truth: Deep down you are charging your behavior for women or else you wouldn't be on RedPill. Men come to RedPill to know how to get girls, and they are told 'go focus on yourself if you want pussy bro!' You are focusing on yourself as a way to get women. RedPill is called sexual strategy, not fucking life strategy. If you wanted advice on how to be entrepreneur, or how to bench 300 pounds, or how to run a marathon, you would be going to the places tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/22 04:52 PM |
| 3 | Why "just be yourself" is the best dating adviceVideogame logic follows the same rules as the real world: "certain inputs produce certain outputs." This is the case for job hunting, relationships, physical growth and development, health and wellness, financial success, etc. Secondly, applying strategy and intelligence to problem solving is not 'gaming' anything, that's just stupid. Third, the fact failure causes emotional damage is MORE reason to be strategic, not less. This is the equivalent of arguing: When you drive a car it's pretty likel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/22 04:43 PM |
| 1 | Why "just be yourself" is the best dating adviceThat's what I said. Can you read? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/22 04:40 PM |
| 1 | Women pretending to care about n-count is an angle.OK well guess I'll just block you then. Problem solved | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/22 04:40 PM |
| 3 | Why "just be yourself" is the best dating adviceAre you joking? That's like 99% of Redpill dude. The whole theory and virtually every post revolves around sexual strategy and the dating marketplace. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/22 08:25 AM |
| 30 | Why "just be yourself" is the best dating adviceWomen want men who have attractive qualities. Men want women who have attractive qualities. Changing yourself to become more attractive doesn't mean you hate yourself, it means you are intelligent. If you wanted a job paying six figures but your only skill was digging ditches on the side of the road, would you stubbornly refuse to change and insist on waiting for Google to suddenly open up a 'ditch digging engineer' role that would make you rich? That would be stupid, right? Or would you recogni… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/22 06:47 AM |
| 1 | Monogamy: by-product or goal? (Also, settling for someone)Obviously we are talking about this in the context of romance and relationships. I shouldn't need to specify that people have friends and family. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/22 12:59 AM |
| 2 | Dunking on Legal Age-Gap Relationships is not the Flex You Think it isThat has nothing to do with age. There are 30 year olds who are divorced with kids too. You are literally citing personal characteristics that are entirely independent from age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/22 12:52 AM |
| 2 | Dunking on Legal Age-Gap Relationships is not the Flex You Think it isAnd btw, most women who do date older men are desperate. Thanks for proving my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/22 12:50 AM |
| 1 | Dunking on Legal Age-Gap Relationships is not the Flex You Think it isThe most upvoted comment on this thread is calling men who want age gaps pedophiles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/22 12:48 AM |
| 5 | Dunking on Legal Age-Gap Relationships is not the Flex You Think it isI'm glad the perfect illustration of my comment came along so quickly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/22 12:47 AM |
| 0 | Dunking on Legal Age-Gap Relationships is not the Flex You Think it isWhy do you care if professors boink students? As long as it was a consenting, romantic relationship, who gives a fuck? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/22 07:20 PM |
| 11 | Dunking on Legal Age-Gap Relationships is not the Flex You Think it isI bet you dated a lot of men that turned out to be a mistake. It wasn't the age difference, it was the specific man you picked, his interests, and how they matched up with what you wanted out of life. This type of comment is the exact same moral framework people use to justify saying things about certain races. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/22 07:19 PM |
| 9 | Dunking on Legal Age-Gap Relationships is not the Flex You Think it isIt's not a strawman. Women on PPD will lose their minds over a 10 year age gap and say things like "Anyone who dates older men is desperate." I've seen this response dozens of times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/22 07:16 PM |
| 11 | Dunking on Legal Age-Gap Relationships is not the Flex You Think it isThis is basically my experience. The super hot 16 and 17 year olds might even be dating men in their mid 20s post-college. It's hilariously common. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/22 07:15 PM |
| 1 | Women pretending to care about n-count is an angle.OK, who cares what you think? Leave PPD forever lol. You do your thing, and we'll continue to give advice to men to help them get pussy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/22 07:08 PM |
| 1 | Monogamy: by-product or goal? (Also, settling for someone)Nope, they absolutely do. Monogamy is by definition relying on one person for sexual and romantic relationships. Duh. It's literally in the name. Not sure how you could possibly argue otherwise, whether or not you have friends that fill some other emotional gap is completely irrelevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/22 07:07 PM |
| 5 | When is explicit(verbal) consent ever given by women for initial intimacy(touching and kissing). Is this practiced in reality?That sounds incredibly dope | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/22 05:19 AM |
| 1 | Women pretending to care about n-count is an angle.That's the point of redpill dumb dumb. Women have infinite opportunity for a reason. Your point is like saying: Us rich people who were born into wealthy families have all the money in the world and can buy anything they want, but they don't go too crazy. Whereas poor people have no money but if they suddenly were given 10 million dollars they'd blow it all on dumb shit immediately. Then the poor people have the audacity to judge us if we buy a few yachts and a tiger. What hypocrites! What loser… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/22 05:06 AM |
| 1 | How many of you men have cheated on a significant other? (All honest answers, I won’t be judging)I've cheated on two LTRs. One was in college, I was doing the long distance thing and a really hot girl who I was tutoring was all over me for weeks and eventually gave in to the temptation, ended up dating her. I got karma though, she cheated on me later when I was depressed and going through it with family. Cheated on an LTR in my mid 20s as well. She was great, loved her personality, but I realized she wasn't what I wanted physically (See: Not hot enough). The girl I cheated on her with was i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/22 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Parental DNA test for all newly born childrenI think that's fine, today it certainly isn't the case and I don't see many (any) women advocating against it so it comes off hypocritical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/22 12:35 AM |
| 9 | Women pretending to care about n-count is an angle.Right, that's the entire point. Women are most valuable when they have youth and beauty, men are most valuable when they have resources and confidence. It's always weird when women on PPD confirm TRP unintentionally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/22 01:26 AM |
| 1 | Parental DNA test for all newly born childrenCool, I'm glad you support banning asset sharing upon marriage. If you agree with that, then I agree with not requiring DNA tests. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/22 06:08 AM |
| 0 | Parental DNA test for all newly born childrenThis is like saying the government shouldn't force married people to split their assets, because the ability to split them through prenups already exists. Do you support government getting out of the way there? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/22 09:42 PM |
| – | Men Who Look For Partners Overseas And Search For Love In A Different Country. Thoughts?I've lived in Thailand, Singapore, Philippines, and China for 4 years, and lived in Turkey for about 6 months for a work trip. The schools are so much worse. Again, you are confusing the people for the school system. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/22 05:28 PM |
| 1 | Post famous examples of what you consider hot, average or notNo, he is not average relative to other men. There is no universe where JLG promotes similar sexual desire as the average fat American. Also the man is 40 years old for fucks sake, the average 40 year old man looks like shit. You are making a really dumb argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/22 07:50 AM |
| – | Men Who Look For Partners Overseas And Search For Love In A Different Country. Thoughts?Of course the US has one of the best education systems in the world. You are confusing individual people for educational opportunity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/22 07:47 AM |
| 0 | If it doesn’t make sense for a man with a certain amount of income/resources to be in a monogamous relationship, then it doesn’t make sense for a woman with a certain amount of income/resources as wellPeople ARE scientific. We are biological beings and have studied ourselves in a lab just as much as any other animal. If people do X the response will be Y. Attempting to understand our own compulsions isn't robotic, it's smart. If you claim to be a scientific person in general but not when it comes to relationships, that your own unintelligence and bias - not ours. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 06:03 PM |
| 4 | Female beauty standards are not that hard to achieve.Strawman. No one is expecting mothers to have an hourglass figure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 06:01 PM |
| 3 | Post famous examples of what you consider hot, average or notYou can pick any 'average looking man' and they will not compare to JGL. They just won't. You guys are actually delusional, it's crazy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 05:55 PM |
| 2 | Post famous examples of what you consider hot, average or notI called you delusional because you are delusional. It's one thing to say 'JLG isn't really my type. I don't find him hot.' That is a personal preference. But to say 'He is average' is now a statement about where he fits statistically relative to other men. That is literally what the word average means. What this thread demonstrates is women do not actually understand what average even means, because their perception of men is only based on the guys that interest them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 05:47 PM |
| 6 | Post famous examples of what you consider hot, average or notWhat I've learned on this thread is that everyone is deluded and no one knows what average is. It makes sense now why people have such insane standards relative to their own looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 08:54 AM |
| 15 | Post famous examples of what you consider hot, average or notYou guys are literally delusional. This is what the average male body looks like in the US. There is no universe where JGL is average. Are you a woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 08:53 AM |
| 30 | Post famous examples of what you consider hot, average or notJust the average man passing through Seriously though, this is someone who's average. People's perception of normal is so skewed by media and TV it's crazy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 08:46 AM |
| 9 | Men Who Look For Partners Overseas And Search For Love In A Different Country. Thoughts?Every time this thread comes up, I can tell with 99% certainty almost none of the replies have any idea what they are talking and get most of their experience from TV shows and documentaries. I lived and worked in Asia for 4 years, then met my wife in the US, did a LDR with her, and eventually we got married and she moved to America. A few truth nuggets: The majority of women who are foreign and looking to date American/western men are not poor. America (and the West in general) is famous for it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/22 10:25 AM |
| 3 | Men Who Look For Partners Overseas And Search For Love In A Different Country. Thoughts?There's a difference between not being able to compete, and having better options elsewhere. I'm in an open marriage, so I still regularly go on dates with attractive people. I'd just never marry them. My wife is multiple times better in pretty much every category - looks, ability to run a home, great family, gets her own money, etc. American women are basically the worst in the world in every category, objectively. I quite literally recommend to every man with money I know to date abroad, and t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/22 10:00 AM |
| 5 | Viewing dating as a marketplace might be the biggest failure someone can makeIgnoring the statistical certainties of the world is dumb. That being said, you can tilt the deck in your favor by understanding the rules of the game and giving yourself the best chance at a winning hand. For example, in business the average failure rate of startups is about 80%. But that doesn't mean every startup has a 20% chance of success. However, in order to be one of the top 1%, you need to understand what qualities increase the likelihood of success, what qualities increase the likeliho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/22 10:59 AM |
| 3 | If you’re unhappy with the state of western women why not travel or move to another country and date the women there?American girls get so butthurt when they lose out to foreigners who don't put up with their shit lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 07:01 PM |
| 4 | Those Who Complain About OnlyFan/Instathots... What Would You Actually Like Them To Do Instead?Agreed. Sex toys are degenerate as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 07:02 PM |
| 9 | Those Who Complain About OnlyFan/Instathots... What Would You Actually Like Them To Do Instead?It's intelligence, observing trends in society, and understanding how major problems can come from unlimited access to sex and pseudo intimacy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 07:02 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realYou didn't explain anything. You just made an incorrect statement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 01:18 AM |
| – | According to TRP, every successful person is betaOK buddy, you sound super duper smart | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 01:17 AM |
| 5 | The Gender Empathy Gap is realYou're not wrong | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 01:05 AM |
| 3 | in order to form a healthy, long term relationship, you have to put "all your eggs into one basket".It seems foolish, but you can't really concentrate on one person if you're texting or even seeing multiple people. Why? You just said that having all your eggs in one basket is not something that's common in any other human relationship. We can have many friends, but only best friend right? Why are romantic relationships any different? I've heard some men say they have sex with OTHER WOMEN if their date isn't letting them "smash" in the meantime. That's so... Broken. Immature and childish. Just … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 10:43 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realI'm not conflating anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 08:15 PM |
| 3 | The Gender Empathy Gap is realKer-blocked! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 06:33 PM |
| 5 | The Gender Empathy Gap is realThat's ridiculous, of course they do. Women are constantly pushing their beliefs onto traditional men and calling them toxic for having different opinions and trying to get them to change. What in the actual fuck are on you on about? Someone else told me you're a troll so I think I'll just stop engaging and block you lol later bro | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 06:32 PM |
| 3 | The Gender Empathy Gap is realYou're free to feel whatever way you want about me, I don't really care. I am arguing you are not an ally, and you have demonstrated that repeatedly through your comments on this post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 06:27 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realI didn't say anything other than feminists don't understand why people hate them. Yes, I'd expect you to support traditional men, so long as they are making choices which harm no one and are in consenting relationships. Are you saying traditional men shouldn't support modern women? What exactly is your point here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 06:26 PM |
| 5 | The Gender Empathy Gap is realTraditional feminist - you can dish it out but can't take it. It's cool. If you're not an ally, then you're not an ally. But I can call you out on your bullshit when you pretend to be an empathetic person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 06:22 PM |
| 4 | The Gender Empathy Gap is realDo you expect me to? What the fuck? Are you experiencing some sort of psychosis? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 06:16 PM |
| – | According to TRP, every successful person is betaOK. So if you get divorced you're beta, got it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 06:15 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realI don't know what you want me to do with that. There was no denigration unless pointing out data hurts your feelings so much it denigrates you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 06:14 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realI'm married to an entrepreneur. You have no clue what you're talking about. I've never advocated for traditional gender roles in my life. And I mean, trying to get conservative women to support the cause. I'm progressive. We are natural enemies lol Define what a conservative is. I bet you can't. And for the record - I'm a fiscal, not a social conservative. I'm AOC and you're looking for Marjorie Taylor Greene. You're a rando on the internet making weird assumptions about my life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 06:12 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realThere was no denigration at all in OPs post. He pointed out studies and facts that indicated a problem. Your response: "Why should I give a fuck?" Do you hear yourself? You are not an ally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 06:10 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realI would go out on a limb and say you don't even know what a conservative is. Also, I'm married. So not sure what I'm 'trying?' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 06:08 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realIf men were always anti-feminist you would have no rights, because women did not have the physical or economic power to get what they wanted. Men became anti-feminist, because feminists are horrible lol Society developed to be the most efficient distribution of labor for survival. The world wasn't built for men's benefit anymore than having 1 male lion to 10 females in a pride had a cultural agenda. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 06:06 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realBecause feminists have been incredibly shitty to them, of course they are. You PPD ladies can't even handle a man saying he wants a traditional wife without saing he's the devil, but you think feminists get free reign to call every man toxic and sexist but he's not going to hate your movement? I'm asking the same question you are: why should I stand up for a subset of men that seeks to harm me? No one seeks to harm you. You are being a jerk and then victimizing yourself when people respond to yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 06:04 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realThen that's no different from what men are doing. Here's a problem Let's work together to fix it Women: No | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 06:01 PM |
| – | According to TRP, every successful person is betaWhy would their wives need to be average in my scenario? The whole point is that if status is the determinant then they are not alpha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 05:58 PM |
| – | According to TRP, every successful person is betaLots of good looking guys have been divorced. Getting divorced == beta? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 05:57 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realThat's literally exactly what they did. The entire feminist movement was women asking men for help and support. That's all it's ever been. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 05:54 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realYou just got shown a list of problems and issues, and basically told men to fuck off. Do you understand that's why men are becoming anti-feminist? It's not like men's rights folks fundamentally don't care about women's rights, it's that whenever they mention their issues people like you jump up to say things like 'why should I care?' or 'it's your own problem to deal with, not mine' or something along those lines, and surprise surprise they always happen to be feminists. Women are NOT male allie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 05:53 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realI love when women let the mask slip like in comments like this. They don't give a shit about us, boys. Why men ever gave two flying fucks about feminism for a gender that says shit like 'are you expecting women to advocate on your behalf?' is beyond me. Never give women an inch, ever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 05:50 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realExcept that is not what the data actually indicates, and you are falling for the exact same bias the OP describes. The issue isn't who has the capacity to do more harm, it's how much harm is actually being done. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 05:45 PM |
| 1 | According to TRP, every successful person is betaI don't see how that would make them less 'beta bux' if the women they are with now wouldn't want them if they didn't have money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 05:40 AM |
| 0 | If you’re unhappy with the state of western women why not travel or move to another country and date the women there?Where? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 05:37 AM |
| 2 | According to TRP, every successful person is betaThat certainly isn't what TRpers think. They'll say that billionaire's like Bezos are beta bux. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 05:37 AM |
| 1 | If you’re unhappy with the state of western women why not travel or move to another country and date the women there?You have yet to provide any other examples of experience besides TV. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 01:15 AM |
| 0 | If you’re unhappy with the state of western women why not travel or move to another country and date the women there?Where are you getting the number 1/10 attempts work out? You made a pretty authoritative claim so I'd like to see the evidence, unless you can admit to making things up. Almost no one thinks that someone is automatically going to be better because they are traditional. There are traditional women in the US. The vast majority of couples doing this are very intentional and deliberate about who they are bringing over and why, and what the major challenges are going to be. But when your only exposur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 11:50 PM |
| 1 | If you’re unhappy with the state of western women why not travel or move to another country and date the women there?What figures are you citing? What evidence do you have besides movies and television? They are literally scripted, what do you mean there's some truth to them? There's truth to them in like, the process is similar or something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 11:33 PM |
| 1 | If you’re unhappy with the state of western women why not travel or move to another country and date the women there?Not only have I lived in other countries, but I spent 4 years working and living abroad right out of college, and one of those jobs was quite literally writing for a reality television show lol. I know the shows are scripted because we scripted them! I was doing a sports show in China that was supposed to be a take on American idol. The director wanted to find athletes that fit a narrative with talent being a second order concern. When we held auditions, his first concern was with finding intere… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 11:26 PM |
| -1 | If you’re unhappy with the state of western women why not travel or move to another country and date the women there?Maybe you should try getting some experience by talking to real human beings instead of watching tv shows and movies. Americans live in a fantasy world, it's fucking insane lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 10:51 PM |
| – | If you’re unhappy with the state of western women why not travel or move to another country and date the women there?And yet that's exactly how you're using the term. Women are not these one dimensional beings who can't be attracted to the lifestyle and desire that person because they're hot, domineering, etc. They are always these bizarre caricatures of human beings who can only have one operation function at a time. Rich people acting like poor people bring everything on themselves? It must be Tuesday. Didn't say that. What I did say though, is that poor people who talk about 'beta bux' are fucking losers th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 10:49 PM |
| – | If you’re unhappy with the state of western women why not travel or move to another country and date the women there?I feel like to you guys 'beta bux' now just means - "I make more money than her and she finds that attractive." This is a justification poor people use to validate to their own shitty, impoverished lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 10:28 PM |
| – | If you’re unhappy with the state of western women why not travel or move to another country and date the women there?You realize reality shows are scripted and don't represent actual reality right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 10:22 PM |
| – | If you’re unhappy with the state of western women why not travel or move to another country and date the women there?I'm talking about the average man, and I laid out the American criteria for average above which puts them into the top 1% worldwide. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 10:16 PM |
| – | If you’re unhappy with the state of western women why not travel or move to another country and date the women there?Yes, she is a millionaire and makes close to 7 figures from her business. I make more money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 10:10 PM |
| – | If you’re unhappy with the state of western women why not travel or move to another country and date the women there?The poorest millionaire in the gated community gets treated like trash, it doesn't mean they still don't have a desirable lifestyle. You're not too good at this whole 'debate' thing. Maybe try r/relationships instead? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 10:08 PM |
| – | If you’re unhappy with the state of western women why not travel or move to another country and date the women there?The 40% divorce rate and large number of sexless men would disagree with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 10:02 PM |
| – | If you’re unhappy with the state of western women why not travel or move to another country and date the women there?Bingo. That's not a catch, that's basic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 10:02 PM |
| – | If you’re unhappy with the state of western women why not travel or move to another country and date the women there?Hell yeah I am. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 09:21 AM |
| – | If you’re unhappy with the state of western women why not travel or move to another country and date the women there?I didn't say they were most desirable, but they are definitely up there. Do you think most women would rather date the average American, or say the average man from Peru, Guetamala, Philppines, India, Somalia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Uganda, Moroco, Uzbekistan, Thailand, Japan, etc... Western men in general are just really desirable. Americans are lower ranked than some other Western countries (but not all) but I'd say they definitely hover in the top 10 or 20 in terms of desirability. Meanwhile … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 09:19 AM |
| – | If you’re unhappy with the state of western women why not travel or move to another country and date the women there?Absolutely. There's really nothing they can do but try to shame you because shame is the only weapon they have. They don't have the skills to compete with better women on the market. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 09:15 AM |
| – | If you’re unhappy with the state of western women why not travel or move to another country and date the women there?Then you need help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 09:09 AM |
| – | If you’re unhappy with the state of western women why not travel or move to another country and date the women there?Overweight, sure. Subscribed to 100s of only fans models? No, and that's a really stupid thing to say. You know that. The average American man is 5 foot 10, 200 pounds, non-abusive, makes a $40K per year salary, owns a home, owns a car, is non-violent, is at least moderately feminist and generally culturally progressive. If you don't think that's radically more desirable than a significant majority of men from other countries, especially developing countries then you need to travel more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 09:06 AM |
| – | If you’re unhappy with the state of western women why not travel or move to another country and date the women there?Do you think most American men are obese beta neckbeards subscribed to hundreds of only fans models? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 08:53 AM |
| – | If you’re unhappy with the state of western women why not travel or move to another country and date the women there?It has nothing to do with abuse, and everything to do with quality. In the US 40% of marriages end in divorce, with 80% being initiated by women. American women are statistically the fattest and ugliest women on Earth, they are some of most promiscuous, and so on and so forth. American women are timebombs. It doesn't matter how loving they are, how great the relationship is - they have literally zero cultural, religious, or economic incentive to keep their families together and leave whenever th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 08:51 AM |
| – | If you’re unhappy with the state of western women why not travel or move to another country and date the women there?The outcome is to have a happy marriage and a good life. If being with a non-American can increase the chances of that outcome becoming more likely, why wouldn't it be an appropriate solution? American women are without a doubt the worst in the world for marriage. They have the fewest domestic skills, they are the least attractive, they are the most difficult to live with, they are the most sexualized, the most abrasive, the least feminine, some of the most likely to divorce, some of the fastest… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 05:42 AM |
| – | If you’re unhappy with the state of western women why not travel or move to another country and date the women there?The funny thing is that if you are stable, good job, take decent care of yourself, aren't abusive, have a good family, etc you are not a loser to 99% of the world. It's only in America where a man can have all that and still be looked down upon by women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 05:27 AM |
| – | If you’re unhappy with the state of western women why not travel or move to another country and date the women there?That's exactly what I did! It's worked out marvelously, and I know more and more men who are doing this. My good friend is getting married to a girl from Sweden, one of my business cofounders is marrying a Korean girl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 05:25 AM |
| 5 | 80% of men desire only the top 20% of women.Dumb comment. The whole point is that ALL women get messages, but hot women get the most. This is reasonable and makes sense. But for men, outside the top 20% men get almost NOTHING. Women are hyper attracted to the top, and pay ZERO attention to the bottom. There are man who are 6s that might get 1 match or less a day, while women who are 6s get 100s of matches, while an 8 or 9 gets 1000s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 12:36 AM |
| 3 | 80% of men desire only the top 20% of women.Your point is mind numbingly stupid. Just because all men desire top women, doesn't mean they ONLY desire the top women. Hot women may get more messages, but ALL women get a ton of messages. The bottom 80% of men barely get anything, and most get NOTHING at all. Do you understand that difference? You're basically comparing different levels of software engineers, the most desirable job in the world to unemployed homeless people. And then saying- look guys: "Every company wants to hire the best so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 12:31 AM |
| 4 | It is NOT INSECURITY to want to be the best sex your partner has ever had. Period.Then why are you still asking questions like a dumbass? It is what it is bruh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 11:19 PM |
| 8 | It is NOT INSECURITY to want to be the best sex your partner has ever had. Period.I mean, OK? Did you not read the post or something? What the fuck is this lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 11:15 PM |
| 1 | It is NOT INSECURITY to want to be the best sex your partner has ever had. Period.I read the stats. Nothing disproved my point, as I said originally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 11:09 PM |
| 9 | It is NOT INSECURITY to want to be the best sex your partner has ever had. Period.You'll never be better in bed than the broke hot dude that spends all his time fucking dozens of women while you're working on a degree or career with 1 or 2 girlfriends over several years. I love when the mask comes off for women and they reveal what the really want. Here's exhibit A., men. Never wife a slut. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 11:06 PM |
| 1 | It is NOT INSECURITY to want to be the best sex your partner has ever had. Period.Nothing you said disproves my point, because you haven't even addressed it. Saying that 'men who put in effort makes the sex better' doesn't disprove any point I made. Please run along since you can't debate properly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 10:58 PM |
| 4 | It is NOT INSECURITY to want to be the best sex your partner has ever had. Period.No, I didn't read your studies because they are not relevant. All things being equal, sex is better with a hotter man than an uglier man. That's the entire point of my comment. Looks has an impact. You are trying to conflate separate points. An uglier man who eats a girl out is still going to have 'worse' perceived sex than a hot man who does the same thing. That is one of the main reasons women seek out hot men, instead of ugly men who are great at eating people out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 10:54 PM |
| 3 | It is NOT INSECURITY to want to be the best sex your partner has ever had. Period.Even a quickie with someone you love is still intimate. It's not like fucking a stranger, right? You're confusing intimacy for passion or intensity, sounds like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 10:49 PM |
| 3 | It is NOT INSECURITY to want to be the best sex your partner has ever had. Period.It's fundamental to the convo. You're saying that looks has no impact on sex, but can't explain why people want to have sex with someone who is hot. The answer is very simple - being highly attracted to someone makes the sex better. Your pussy will be wetter, your dick will be harder, if you think the person you are fucking is hot. That is supremely obvious to anyone with a pulse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 10:46 PM |
| 3 | It is NOT INSECURITY to want to be the best sex your partner has ever had. Period.We're talking about sex between LTRs. I think if sex isn't intimate there's a problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 10:44 PM |
| 2 | It is NOT INSECURITY to want to be the best sex your partner has ever had. Period.Take a guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 10:42 PM |
| 9 | It is NOT INSECURITY to want to be the best sex your partner has ever had. Period.Yes. Absolutely. That's literally the point of the entire post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 10:39 PM |
| 1 | Older women, please stop making posts about why older men should stop dating younger women, men don't care.lol so you truly believe that 'anal' and 'group sex' tags are women watching lesbian anal and lesbian group sex, 100%? You are fucking delusional lmao. You're doubling down on something so stupid no normal person would agree with you or think it's a remotely sane opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 10:38 PM |
| 2 | It is NOT INSECURITY to want to be the best sex your partner has ever had. Period.And why do you people prefer to interact with good looking people? You're so close. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 10:37 PM |
| 5 | It is NOT INSECURITY to want to be the best sex your partner has ever had. Period.Then why not seek out ugly guys with good dick if hotness has no impact on sexual ability? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 07:10 PM |
| 8 | It is NOT INSECURITY to want to be the best sex your partner has ever had. Period.And why do they want to have sex with a good looking partner? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 07:09 PM |
| 11 | It is NOT INSECURITY to want to be the best sex your partner has ever had. Period.Yes, I'm agreeing with OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 07:09 PM |
| 9 | It is NOT INSECURITY to want to be the best sex your partner has ever had. Period.So you don't think sex is intimate and special? If that's the case I'd say you are an extreme outlier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 05:59 PM |
| 20 | It is NOT INSECURITY to want to be the best sex your partner has ever had. Period.Women like to use the word 'insecurity' to insult men and make them feel less masculine. There is nothing wrong with insecurity in many cases, and often being insecure is being smart. If a woman cheats on you, and you still love them, you might break it off because you can't trust them anymore. That is insecurity. It is also totally justified. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 05:58 PM |
| 9 | It is NOT INSECURITY to want to be the best sex your partner has ever had. Period.This is so, so, so dumb. Of course sex is better with hot men - that's why women go out of their way to fuck hot men. If good sex for women is based more on a guy's ability, then their 'fun times' would be way more selective and not just a hot dude who expresses interest in them. Sex is better when you are hyper attracted to your partner. The same is true with men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 05:56 PM |
| 16 | It is NOT INSECURITY to want to be the best sex your partner has ever had. Period.That is literally the OPs entire post. Obviously he'd love them if he wasn't their best, I would too. Your shaming tactics don't work here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 05:54 PM |
| 19 | It is NOT INSECURITY to want to be the best sex your partner has ever had. Period.And that my friends, is why men avoid sluts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 05:54 PM |
| 1 | Older women, please stop making posts about why older men should stop dating younger women, men don't care.I'm saying that 'anal lesbian' falls under 'lesbian.' That is literally how the data is organized is Pornhub, because the dataset is pulling from tags. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 05:07 PM |
| 1 | Older women, please stop making posts about why older men should stop dating younger women, men don't care.That would fall under the lesbian tab dude. There's no category for hetero, so you just have no data to say more hetero porn It's everything that's not lesbian or gay. You don't have jack shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 03:25 AM |
| 0 | Is sex a need?It's a good thing I never said sex was equal to housing. Run along if you can't debate the point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 03:23 AM |
| 7 | 3rd richest man in the world btw LMFAOOORight....so how does a joke in response to getting flamed online mean he cares about what his whore girlfriend does? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 08:09 PM |
| 4 | 3rd richest man in the world btw LMFAOOOSo you think he was legitimately threatening Dicaprio? lol come on man please don't be dumb | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 07:57 PM |
| 7 | 3rd richest man in the world btw LMFAOOOYes...clearly that's a joke. You can't be that big of a dumbass lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 07:56 PM |
| 3 | why are some men relatively nice when you know them platonically but act like complete douchebags after you reject their advances ?He might also suck off your brother in the locker room and then ass fuck him as a form of payback for getting rejected. Stay away from men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 07:53 PM |
| 10 | why are some men relatively nice when you know them platonically but act like complete douchebags after you reject their advances ?Why do you feel entitled to kindness after you rejected him? Man up and deal with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 07:50 PM |
| 3 | 3rd richest man in the world btw LMFAOOOI really doubt Bezos cares that much haha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 07:47 PM |
| 1 | The Duality of WomenLMAO this is exactly the type of American mentality that makes you guys look like such a joke to the rest of the world. You dress like whores and then say it's not 'inherently sexual.' Human beings are sexually attracted to naked bodies, pussy, ass, dick, and tits. I'm not sure what parallel universe you come from where this isn't the case but here in the universe I live in that's how it goes. This is why literal whores dress the way they do. They understand (better than you, clearly) that dress… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 07:40 PM |
| 7 | The discourse surrounding incels is extremely overblown and hilarious.The number of incels who kill women, and the number of man-hating women who end up raping their own babies or murdering them is probably close to being the same - that is - completely negligible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 06:29 PM |
| 1 | Older women, please stop making posts about why older men should stop dating younger women, men don't care.lol you have nothing so now you're saying your own data is untrustworthy. Even though there is a explicit category for lesbian, all the other categories including 'big dick' and 'anal' and 'gangbang' are also lesbian because...you say so. OK dude, go about your day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 06:14 PM |
| 37 | Women are blatant Homophobes and Racists but will pass it off as a Male TraitI love how even in a comment calling out women's blatant homophobia, a homophobic comment from a woman is upvoted and given an award. We're living in a clown world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 06:09 PM |
| 1 | The Duality of Womenlol no you wouldn't. America is hyper sexualized, so hyper sexualized clothing has become the norm. Now we're pretending it's not sexual which is just fucking bizarre The US literally sexualizes toddlers This culture is just sick and twisted in so many ways lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 06:00 PM |
| 1 | The Duality of Womenlol if you wore that exact outfit on the street in a 3rd world country they would absolutely think you are a hooker and treat you as such | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 05:18 PM |
| 1 | The Duality of WomenEw, you sound like a pedo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 05:17 PM |
| 0 | The Duality of WomenAbsolutely. What else? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 09:01 AM |
| 1 | The Duality of WomenWhat do you mean 'slip up?' I literally said 'Hell yeah it's victim blaming' in the first sentence of my original reply to you. Are you actually retarded? Golly gee whiz I'm talking to a real live special ed seems like. She's a victim in the same way rednecks who drive around with the confederate flag on their trucks are called racists. A victim of 100% fair and valid judgement. I did respond to that. I said your robot code is short circuiting, since you are saying incomprehensible gobble-dee go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 08:45 AM |
| 0 | The Duality of WomenYes, victim blaming. I am in 100% agreement with you. I am blaming the victim. What else have you got? I think the robot is short circuiting... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 08:38 AM |
| 1 | Cannot digest the fact that my current, and a few before her, think it's okay to openly fantasize about (fictional) characters and expect me to be fine with itI wish, but then she couldn't go crashing through the window which I find particularly satisfying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 08:33 AM |
| 0 | The Duality of WomenHell yeah it's victim blaming you stupid bitch lol. That's just called consequences for your dumbass behavior. If I dressed up as a penguin and walked into a shopping mall, children are going to look me. Do I get to go scream at them because I don't consent to their 'childish gaze?' Or maybe it's my fault for dressing like a cartoon character and not expecting attraction? Shut the fuck up. No one is listening to your feminist bullshit anymore. The problem with you morons is that you've lost the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 08:31 AM |
| 1 | The Duality of WomenIf she didn't want to be stared at then she shouldn't be dressing like a hooker that sucks off Power Rangers. I'm sorry, but if I walked into the gym wearing a skin tight jumpsuit that clearly outlined the bulge of my cock I would be shocked if anyone didn't stare. It's not particularly common to see a butt naked human covered in fabric that could double as body-paint spreading their butt cheeks on various pictures of exercise equipment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 07:27 AM |
| 8 | The Duality of WomenHow is this protecting her income stream? Nothing about this makes sense at all. Are you saying she would make less/more money if the man wasn't staring? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 07:20 AM |
| 7 | I'm thinking of telling an employee where I work his fiance used to be a hoeThis has instantly been promoted to a tier 1 insult in my lexicon. Thank you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 06:07 AM |
| 1 | An end of Earth event such as in “Don’t Look Up” would be what it takes for men and women to stop playing games instantly and genuinely appreciate each otherIf an end of earth event happened, an enormous amount of married women would find themselves running back to Chad to get dicked down a few times before the world ended and experience 'spark' for the last time. So romantic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 06:04 AM |
| 1 | Cannot digest the fact that my current, and a few before her, think it's okay to openly fantasize about (fictional) characters and expect me to be fine with itTop floor | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 06:00 AM |
| 4 | Cannot digest the fact that my current, and a few before her, think it's okay to openly fantasize about (fictional) characters and expect me to be fine with itI'd lure her to the window by saying 'Jinkies, I lost my glasses' then when she bent down to help me look for them, and I'd heave her out of the window 90s cartoon style while shouting 'Zoinks bitch' at the top of my lungs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 05:58 AM |
| 2 | Cannot digest the fact that my current, and a few before her, think it's okay to openly fantasize about (fictional) characters and expect me to be fine with itSorry pal, I've already killed more women for flicking their bean to Trunks from dragonball Z than you can count. I'm basically the Vegeta of the real world at this point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 05:56 AM |
| 1 | Cannot digest the fact that my current, and a few before her, think it's okay to openly fantasize about (fictional) characters and expect me to be fine with itAnd I bet she doesn't like hearing wind whip past her on the way to the ground after being thrown from a window. Seriously though, don't stand for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 05:51 AM |
| 6 | Cannot digest the fact that my current, and a few before her, think it's okay to openly fantasize about (fictional) characters and expect me to be fine with itAnyone who is openly fantasizing about anyone but their SO is for the streets. That's just straight up disrespectful and shouldn't be tolerated. If my wife ever did that I would throw her out of a window. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 05:29 AM |
| 3 | women on reddit: wOMEN do noT tHINK 80% OF Men ARe uNATtRACTIve, tHAt'S a myTh PeRpetuatEd By INceLs ON REddit". also women on reddit:That's a great one. Copenhagen it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 04:09 AM |
| -1 | The Duality of WomenFinding someone hot and looking at them doesn't make them a sexual object. Do you want to fuck objects or people? Are you an object fucker? If so, gross man go get some therapy. I'm a people fucker. It isn’t her responsibility that men don’t know how to behave in public. Yes it actually is. She has thousands of thirsty male followers from posting booty pics, and is supposed to be shocked to find thirsty men exist in the real world? Sorry but you can't claim victim status for literally exploiting… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 04:07 AM |
| 4 | The Duality of WomenAnd those dudes wouldn't be complaining if someone was looking at them, I bet. If you're going to wear something obviously designed to make people look at you, don't be a dumbass and complain about it. She's literally wearing skin tight booty shorts and a halter top spreading her asshole so far open anyone can see her bicycle spokes through what can barely be described as fabric. This is like a dude wearing a banana sling with a shirt that had an arrow pointing to his cock that just said 'Monste… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 04:02 AM |
| 4 | The Duality of WomenRight, they're working out their glutes for the male gaze on Instagram. It's funny to laugh at, that's all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 04:00 AM |
| 2 | The Duality of WomenWatching a woman in the gym is now sexual harassment. I remember when feminists would say stuff like "This isn't a slippery slope, sexual harassment is clear cut!" And yet here we are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 03:57 AM |
| -1 | women on reddit: wOMEN do noT tHINK 80% OF Men ARe uNATtRACTIve, tHAt'S a myTh PeRpetuatEd By INceLs ON REddit". also women on reddit:I'm not sure how saying that you're coping = defensive in your mind, but OK. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 03:54 AM |
| 0 | women on reddit: wOMEN do noT tHINK 80% OF Men ARe uNATtRACTIve, tHAt'S a myTh PeRpetuatEd By INceLs ON REddit". also women on reddit:Copius Maximus. King of Cope. Alexander the Cope. Lord of Copetown. Which title would you prefer? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 03:25 AM |
| 3 | women on reddit: wOMEN do noT tHINK 80% OF Men ARe uNATtRACTIve, tHAt'S a myTh PeRpetuatEd By INceLs ON REddit". also women on reddit:So your logic is that unattractive women actually have higher standards than hot women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 03:23 AM |
| 2 | women on reddit: wOMEN do noT tHINK 80% OF Men ARe uNATtRACTIve, tHAt'S a myTh PeRpetuatEd By INceLs ON REddit". also women on reddit:Women do not go from thinking a man is ugly to thinking a man is hot. No human being works like that. They are literally settling for someone they are less physically attracted to in exchange for things like relationship security. Women accept that trade-off because at the end of the day they value relationship security and having babies. It doesn't mean she thinks you're hot, especially if she has fucked hotter men (and most women have). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 03:08 AM |
| 9 | women on reddit: wOMEN do noT tHINK 80% OF Men ARe uNATtRACTIve, tHAt'S a myTh PeRpetuatEd By INceLs ON REddit". also women on reddit:Yes it does. Women expect to be approached regardless of the platform. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 12:11 AM |
| 5 | women on reddit: wOMEN do noT tHINK 80% OF Men ARe uNATtRACTIve, tHAt'S a myTh PeRpetuatEd By INceLs ON REddit". also women on reddit:You could do either and the result is the same. There are so many famous example of hot guys on Tinder literally saying things like 'pull up' and good looking girls are like 'what time?' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 12:10 AM |
| 6 | women on reddit: wOMEN do noT tHINK 80% OF Men ARe uNATtRACTIve, tHAt'S a myTh PeRpetuatEd By INceLs ON REddit". also women on reddit:Women’s sensitivity to physical attractiveness in a man is very low, therefore it requires the stimulus of a ridiculously good looking man to get them interested and attracted off looks ALONE. Nope, not true. Good looking men make women horny. They don't need to be Greek Gods. Yes, women are wildly attracted to extremely physically attractive men. Women are attracted to physically attractive men. Not sure why you're using 'wildly.' However, if you’re a man whose not extremely physically attracti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 12:06 AM |
| 9 | women on reddit: wOMEN do noT tHINK 80% OF Men ARe uNATtRACTIve, tHAt'S a myTh PeRpetuatEd By INceLs ON REddit". also women on reddit:No it doesn't. Culturally, men are expected to approach. A woman can be strongly attracted to a man, but she will still wait for him to approach her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 11:59 PM |
| 10 | women on reddit: wOMEN do noT tHINK 80% OF Men ARe uNATtRACTIve, tHAt'S a myTh PeRpetuatEd By INceLs ON REddit". also women on reddit:I can guarantee you the average woman has 10x more options than the average man, online or offline. The reason the average guy fails online is only because women have many choices presented all at once, and in real life they don't. That's all. The average guy with a great personality will get left over the hot guy 100% of the time, no matter whether it's on Tinder or a bar. If the hot guy wants her, your 'totally killer personality' won't mean jack shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 11:55 PM |
| 10 | women on reddit: wOMEN do noT tHINK 80% OF Men ARe uNATtRACTIve, tHAt'S a myTh PeRpetuatEd By INceLs ON REddit". also women on reddit:What point are you making, and how is a hot woman getting more messages than a hot guy an 'exception?' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 11:51 PM |
| – | Muh "PeRsOnAlItY"Sure it is. Being attractive means you have an overwhelming amount of options, people falling over to make your life easier, 'pretty privilege,' etc. That shapes your view of the world and what you deserve. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 11:31 PM |
| 13 | women on reddit: wOMEN do noT tHINK 80% OF Men ARe uNATtRACTIve, tHAt'S a myTh PeRpetuatEd By INceLs ON REddit". also women on reddit:Yes, that's why the divorce rate is nearly 50%. That's why betas are getting their hearts broken by marrying they think are attracted to them. I fucking LOVE it when women come in here and validate RedPill. It's pretty awesome to see. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 11:27 PM |
| 25 | women on reddit: wOMEN do noT tHINK 80% OF Men ARe uNATtRACTIve, tHAt'S a myTh PeRpetuatEd By INceLs ON REddit". also women on reddit:Here's an exercise for you to try. Go find a hot guy from instagram. Create a Tinder profile catfishing as him. See how many thirsty messages you get. Try the same with an average looking guy. Then tell me about how 'tHat iSn'T HoW feMaLE aTTraCtiOn WOrKs" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 11:25 PM |
| 20 | women on reddit: wOMEN do noT tHINK 80% OF Men ARe uNATtRACTIve, tHAt'S a myTh PeRpetuatEd By INceLs ON REddit". also women on reddit:And yet women fall over themselves to fuck Chad from nothing but a Tinder pic. We've done this exercise 1000 times now. 'Muh Personality' only matters when it comes to betas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 11:24 PM |
| 3 | The idea that women could possibly want tall men is preposterous. It’s only important that men are taller than they are.> I don't understand the obsession with height > He just has to be taller than me, ideally by 4 - 6 inches ??? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 11:19 PM |
| – | Is sex a need?It's a debate forum. I made a reasonable argument. If you don't have the ability to counter it or demonstrate why it's wrong, you should probably leave this sub and try somewhere your opinion won't be challenged. Tata | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 11:11 PM |
| – | "I'm a virgin, i'm saving myself for a special man!" Also her:You seem well adjusted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 11:09 PM |
| 0 | Older women, please stop making posts about why older men should stop dating younger women, men don't care.ikr, what's up with these people citing statistics instead of just bringin up personal anecdotes? Because citing an average is not relevant. It's like telling a millionaire he doesn't get pussy because women date men with an average income of $40K, or that women don't want tall men because the average man in a relationship is 5 foot 10. You're just describing the demographics of the population. It isn't an argument. The difference is obvious but you may be so deep into your dellusions that you c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 11:06 PM |
| 1 | Older women, please stop making posts about why older men should stop dating younger women, men don't care.I mean, based on that data you are incorrect and I'm right. Women are watching overwhelmingly more hetero porn. It isn't even close. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 11:01 PM |
| – | Muh "PeRsOnAlItY"Of course it's comedy, but I don't think anyone, anywhere would disagree with the idea that hot women are usually fucking nuts lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 10:56 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a need?OK bud, carry on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 10:55 PM |
| 12 | Women in a nutshellThat's fine, but let's not ignore reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 10:55 PM |
| 11 | This one's for all the Redpillers out thereI guarantee you the guy on the right gets more attention as a jacked dude than if he was fat or weak and small. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 08:50 AM |
| – | Muh "PeRsOnAlItY"That's not how it works lol. It means the hotter the woman is the crazier she's allowed to be That is absolutely how it is lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pInk1rV2VEg Hot women with good temperaments are literally called unicorns because they are so rare...The matrix literally starts at 4 on the crazy scale. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 07:46 AM |
| 3 | Older women, please stop making posts about why older men should stop dating younger women, men don't care.Every single woman I've ever dated watches exclusively hetero porn. I'm not sure what insane world you're living in where women are watching lesbians more than straight sex, unless they are bi or lesbian themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 07:42 AM |
| 0 | Older women, please stop making posts about why older men should stop dating younger women, men don't care.Whats stopping women from dating old men? Curious? What is it if it isn’t the fact they don’t like them. Same thing that's stopping them from dating millionaire's. They aren't around, it's much easier to date within your age bracket, etc. You don’t have to be old to be mature. Being mature is a trait in and of itself. We are talking about women liking old men. Obviously by maturity I'm talking about the maturity that comes with age, experience, financial stability, etc. Put it like this, if all … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 07:39 AM |
| 1 | The tragic fate of those poor ugly incels 💔It's almost impossible to decouple those things. Sexual reproduction is why we exist on this earth. It is quite literally the only reason we are alive. If a man cannot be successful sexually, from the perspective of our biological impetus he is an absolute failure. Now, that certainly doesn't mean he can't add value in many other abstract ways and improve society. But until we can rewire our brains to care about something other than reproduction at a base level what you're describing is not goin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 03:12 AM |
| 0 | "I'm a virgin, i'm saving myself for a special man!" Also her:I think the memes are lame, yeah. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 03:05 AM |
| 5 | Muh "PeRsOnAlItY"Sorry, my experience doesn't line up with that at all. Some hot people are cool, sure. But in general hot women are pretty unapproachable and generally bitchy, whereas ugly women are much nicer, sweeter, and generally better to be around. There's even a hot vs. crazy index where the hotter a woman gets the more insufferable she is. Hot women who are also angels are extremely rare. Ugly women who are great people are pretty common. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 03:04 AM |
| 0 | Older women, please stop making posts about why older men should stop dating younger women, men don't care.That’s the thing, desirable older men have qualities that are simply desired. Its more accurate to say women like successful men rather than it is old men. With one of those qualities being that they are older. I have been told many times by women they specifically are looking for someone more mature. If you deny that, then you are denying lived experiences and we are back to square one. Women clearly by the evidence, do not like old men. Nothing you have said demonstrates that other than citing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 03:00 AM |
| 8 | Older women, please stop making posts about why older men should stop dating younger women, men don't care.The average household income is around $75K. If a millionaire said 'A lot of women want to date me' would you respond with "The average household income does not support your claims?" Using averages in this context is a logical fallacy, because it is not addressing the arguments being made, or the fact that only a small percentage of women are hit on by desirable older men. No one is saying the 40 year old bum living under a bridge is pulling hot 20 year olds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 02:35 AM |
| 0 | Is sex a need?Satisfying that desire is absolutely a need, else it will result in severe psychological damage in most cases. What are you even classifying as a need? Is having a home a need? The biological impetus is due to procreation, not sex for the sake of sex; and obviously the large majority of sex is not done for the sake of procreation anymore. Recreational sex is not a need. Our brain cannot tell the difference between sex for procreation and sex for the sake of making babies. It's the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 02:27 AM |
| 2 | Older women, please stop making posts about why older men should stop dating younger women, men don't care.The way you phrased that seemed pretty general | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 02:25 AM |
| 9 | "I'm a virgin, i'm saving myself for a special man!" Also her:I think the point she's not 'saving herself,' she's lying to attract good guys while gargling Chad's cock. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 01:57 AM |
| 8 | Older women, please stop making posts about why older men should stop dating younger women, men don't care.Are you serious? The number of older dudes fucking young women on Pornhub is probably 10x the opposite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 01:53 AM |
| 14 | Older women, please stop making posts about why older men should stop dating younger women, men don't care.I love it when women deny men's experiences because they personally aren't attracted to older dudes. My sister was dating a guy her age, then they broke up and now she's dating someone 14 years older. He's very nice, in shape, has his own business, and clearly values her a lot. Most very attractive women I know have dated at least one guy ~10 years plus older than them. I'm married in my mid 30s and I've had plenty of women 10 years younger than I am hit on ME. When women say things like this it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 01:52 AM |
| 8 | Muh "PeRsOnAlItY"In real life or online you are still judging someone based on their looks first. Personality only emerges after you get to know someone or interact with them for a while. What this data shows is the people make inferences about personality based on looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 01:46 AM |
| 1 | Is sex a need?Then what I already says applies - if we are defining need that broadly then it loses all practical meaning in any conversation. We don't discuss 'needs' such as housing in the way you are talking about them. Otherwise we could easily say 'housing is not a need because homeless are a thing' or 'human interaction is not a need because some people live in comas or out in the woods secluded from everyone' or 'medicine is not a need because we survived without it for thousands of years.' The outcome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 01:40 AM |
| 1 | Is sex a need?Not until you've answered mine. The reason you keep dodging is because you can't. It is a perfect analogy that exactly mirrors your line of argumentation but applied more broadly. If you want to admit you can't answer it, then that's fine and we can end things here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 01:32 AM |
| 1 | Is sex a need?Whether it's extreme or not is irrelevant. It addresses the heart of your comment. Just asking 'how is it a good comparison?' is not an answer. If people can live in a bed their whole lives fed through a tube, with no human interaction, how is anything else a need? According to you, that's an option therefore nothing beyond that is a need, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 01:27 AM |
| 1 | Is sex a need?How is the analogy different? I had a counter argument, you just chose not to respond to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 01:19 AM |
| 1 | Is sex a need?This is like saying because some human beings are in comas fed through a tube it means all humans can live that way and everything else is just a want. Like, if that's the level of stupidity we're talking about then distinguishing between wants/needs is irrelevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 01:15 AM |
| 4 | Muh "PeRsOnAlItY"It shows that's what people infer. This is how they are scored, not how they actually are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 01:12 AM |
| 17 | Muh "PeRsOnAlItY"They don't. That's the point. People assume that better looking people have better personalities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 01:11 AM |
| 6 | Muh "PeRsOnAlItY"This is the opposite of true. Usually people who are uglier have to compensate with better personalities, humor, etc, and people who are attractive are treated well regardless of how they act. The kindest, sweetest people I've ever met were ugly and the biggest bitches/assholes who look down on literally everyone were super hot. It's literally a trope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 01:10 AM |
| 1 | If women gave genuinely good relatiomship advice to men, then boys raised under single mother households would have the best dating outcomes.RedPill is literally targeting incels and other men who don't understand women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 01:04 AM |
| 6 | Women in a nutshellIf you don't think hobgoblin is an insult that has anything to do with looks...you might want to go try a different sub. This ain't it chief. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 01:00 AM |
| 37 | Women in a nutshellThis is how women think. Men at the bottom do not have choices. Women only think they do because that's what they see in their own lives. I knew a girl once who was constantly left swiping on men on Tinder after receiving hundreds of matches. She would often complain of not having many options./ Then wanted to try girls and found she could barely get 1 match a week. I remember her messaging me saying - 'Is THIS what men go through?' And I was like...no. It's even worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 12:58 AM |
| 20 | The tragic fate of those poor ugly incels 💔In what was is being called 'subhuman' or a 'manlet' their fault due to their own choices? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 08:51 PM |
| 4 | wEsTUrN wOmAN!!!!Divorce rates, children raised in single parent households, declining birth rates, high levels of unhappiness, greater mental illness, etc. All driven by women and pushing society towards failure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 08:46 PM |
| 31 | The tragic fate of those poor ugly incels 💔Did they? What is the point exactly? Because I personally grew up with men who were treated this way by women, but this post seems to imply they are saying those things to themselves or something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 08:42 PM |
| 4 | Men need to stop explaining themselves to women on forums like this and expecting any sort of validation.You simultaneously asked and cared - because that is literally the purpose of PPD. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 08:39 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a need?Sperm banks existing, and people being willing to use sperm banks for artificial insemination is not the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 08:36 PM |
| 40 | Men in a nutshellBut they still messaged them. The women ignored the bottom 80% entirely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 08:36 PM |
| 5 | This sub is (obviously) called PPD, but why is it so insanely red-pilled?Everything is a social construct, rendering the term utterly irrelevant :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 02:07 AM |
| 1 | Is sex a need?No, you cannot. Because people will not do that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 11:51 PM |
| 0 | Is sex a need?That is just not true. Ejaculation is not a need. We have a biological impetus to copulate with the opposite gender. Ejaculation simply provides temporary relief from that desire. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 11:25 PM |
| 0 | Is sex a need?In order for artificial insemination to replace men, men have to be willing to provide semen. They are not doing this today, so yes it is a need. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 11:24 PM |
| -2 | Is sex a need?Um, no. The reason we have a biological impetus to poop is to clear waste in our body. The reason we ejaculate is to make babies. If we are not actively making babies, then our mental health will suffer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 06:34 PM |
| 5 | Is sex a need?The human race will go extinct without sex. In the most literal macro sense possible, it is a need. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 06:02 PM |
| 5 | Is sex a need?Why? It is the primary function of humans on earth to procreate. Is it that unreasonable to think we don't have a clear biological impetus to have sex and make babies? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 06:01 PM |
| – | If a woman has money, then starting to have children when she's 30 and over is mostly fine.You literally created a stereotype 'Most CEOs get divorced,' didn't back it up, used 3 examples of guys who were divorced to prove something - I have no fucking idea what, and then continue to make statement based on your imagination like "They don't "maintain relationships",they find wives who are okay with them barely being present." Then you ask ME to prove a point I never even made? lololol what the fuck is this conversation, are you psychotic? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 04:14 PM |
| 1 | If a woman has money, then starting to have children when she's 30 and over is mostly fine.You still didn't answer my question. Also, I'm still waiting you guys to find statistics on "male CEOs maintain their relationships". Do you not know how this works? You made the claim. YOU need to provide the figures that most CEOs divorce. Holy shit, if you can't debate properly stay off this sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 04:12 PM |
| – | If a woman has money, then starting to have children when she's 30 and over is mostly fine.I don't know who you mean by that, but I don't believe those things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 04:27 AM |
| 1 | If a woman has money, then starting to have children when she's 30 and over is mostly fine.You listed 3 CEOs. There are more than 200,000 CEOs in the US. Stereotyping is dumb. Stop doing it, unless you want it done to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/21 06:10 PM |
| 1 | If a woman has money, then starting to have children when she's 30 and over is mostly fine.What closer look are you talking about, besides your own imagination, and your aunt who is 'like a CEO?' One of my childless career woman aunts is similar to the CEO. She hardly wanted to be at home and actually maintain the relationship. Hence, why both her marriages fell apart. That's why most people with 'career men' have divorces? Please find me some data on this. The higher your income the less likely it is you will divorce. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/21 06:07 PM |
| 3 | If a woman has money, then starting to have children when she's 30 and over is mostly fine.So we're back to imagination land I guess. Like I said, you guys will just say literally anything lol. It's kind of a crazy way to live, honestly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/21 08:07 PM |
| 6 | If a woman has money, then starting to have children when she's 30 and over is mostly fine.Most based on what? Rich people have much lower divorce rates on average, not less. You guys will literally just say anything that pops into your head. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/21 04:51 PM |
| 4 | If a woman has money, then starting to have children when she's 30 and over is mostly fine.OK, so your point of view is we should operate purely on stereotypes. Good call, especially as a black woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/21 04:50 PM |
| 1 | If a woman has money, then starting to have children when she's 30 and over is mostly fine.A.) What's your data? B.) 50% of all professionals have a higher than average divorce rate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/21 04:49 PM |
| 10 | If a woman has money, then starting to have children when she's 30 and over is mostly fine.lol you think all CEOs are married to sugar babies with multiple ex wives? I love when the mask comes off in the comments section. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/21 02:13 AM |
| 2 | If women gave genuinely good relatiomship advice to men, then boys raised under single mother households would have the best dating outcomes.Because a man's definition of attractive is not the same as a woman's definition of attractive, and if women never define what that means to them and instead focus exclusively on their emotional wants and needs of course spergs and incels are going to be confused. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/21 01:06 AM |
| 3 | If women gave genuinely good relatiomship advice to men, then boys raised under single mother households would have the best dating outcomes.It's not infantilization. It's what women actually say about themselves, in real life. I don't really care how you conduct yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/21 01:04 AM |
| 10 | If women gave genuinely good relatiomship advice to men, then boys raised under single mother households would have the best dating outcomes.It's not misinterpretation, I've had women say outright that they don't want to be judged by things which could be interpreted as shallow. They don't want the bad boy because of his 'personality (alone) and plan' they like him because he's physically attractive and cool/mysterious. They want to be loved, but women date based on emotional potential. I've heard so many women say that some abusive/terrible ex looked great on paper, but they couldn't get him to commit or be faithful in practice (and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 09:45 PM |
| 24 | If women gave genuinely good relatiomship advice to men, then boys raised under single mother households would have the best dating outcomes.It's not somewhat non-verbally, what women say often runs in direct opposition to what they actually what. Women are incredibly wary of being judged by men and society (it's why they lie so naturally about body counts) so they also say whatever makes them look good/moral/PC to the person they are talking to at the moment, or there are deep layers of implications in what they say that most reasonable inexperienced people won't be able to understand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 09:16 PM |
| 2 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?No, it doesn't depend. Men's are harder to meet because they are immutable. Women's are easier to meet because they are mutable. You can change your weight (women's most important factor), not your height or your facial structure. That is a massive, massive difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 04:46 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?Then you're wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 04:42 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?Go and talk to a few men and ask him if he would prefer to have an IG model who is marriage material or a regular girl who is marriage material. Most men would wife their Instagram crush in a heartbeat if A.) They could and B.) She wasn't a horrible person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 04:41 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?From OPs other posts it is clear he is talking about A.) Sexual attraction and B.) The difficulty in attaining desirable physiques between men and women. You are one of the only people in the thread that doesn't seem to grasp this. As a man, I do not care what dumb beauty standards women impose on themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 04:30 AM |
| 1 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?I can guarantee you every single Marvel exec knew that would happen. Maybe not to that degree, but all Marvel characters are literally designed to be some teenage girls sexual fantasy. There's a reason they didn't cast some guy who looked like Rambo as Captain America. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 04:27 AM |
| 2 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?There's a middle ground that is ideal for men, which is the hourglass shape. Lots of fats women think they are 'thick' but really they're just hideous fatasses. Thick women are usually frequent in the gym, have low to normal BMY with fat in 'all the right places' likes legs and butt, and minimal fat in stomach, face, arms, etc. > Are you talking about dating/relationships or women they enjoy in porn? It's the same thing. Put the personality traits a man likes into a pornstar and he's taking her … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 04:26 AM |
| 1 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?Did you even read the OP? And this happens on an every-day level too. I know plenty of cases of guys who are attracted to women who barely ever or just never exercise as long as they're within a healthy weight. And the women? Just a group trip to the beach and they say they don't find any of the guys attractive. Maybe the lifeguard, who literally makes a living out of being in perfect physical shape to rescue people in time. The obvious theme of the post is attraction and that was what my commen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 04:13 AM |
| 3 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?We are talking about beauty standards in the context of dating and desirability, not the standards women put on each other. The point I’m trying to make though is that we (men and women) want to see pretty, attractive women for even “the every man” role No, just women. Men do not care what the main character of Twilight looks like. That is not a movie for men, consumed by men. Blame women for their unrealistic standards if you want, but it has nothing to do with the male gender. That being said,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 03:44 AM |
| 3 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?Sure. And most women would probably prefer a guy with six pack abs over a dad bod. But in the same way women would find a tall guy with a dad bod, attractive men would date a girl with an average or below average face and a great body. I'm literally just describing reality to you, this isn't an opinion. You can see unattractive women with hot bodies that are very desirable everywhere you look. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 03:35 AM |
| 3 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?The point of the post is that men do not care as much about immutable attributes as women do, not that they don't matter at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 03:32 AM |
| 2 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?You can't change your bone structure without surgery. Height and face are the two most important attributes. Women themselves will tell you muscles don't really matter. Men are attracted to small perky butts and small perky tits, saggy boobs or out of shape asses are liked by 3 perverts. Saggy tits come with age. Saggy butts can be fixed with exercise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 03:31 AM |
| 1 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?It's not about thyroid problems. It's that the value of going to the gym and putting in effort is higher for men than women. You've diverted the initial point to be about dieting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 10:01 PM |
| 10 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?That can and does happen every single day. Women want to be pretty because that is how they attract the type of men they are interested in, which generally excludes men on their level or below. If you don't think there are millions of men who would date an unattractive woman with a banging body then you are completely ignorant of reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 09:51 PM |
| 10 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?Women can't change shape of their breasts, butts or or length of legs as well. Men are attracted to women with small breasts or large breasts, petite butts or big butts, long legs or short legs. They are not requirements in the way women have requirements for men. Aren't men doing the same thing? Ugly or average women aren't just simply not pursued I already addressed this. What men want from women is mutable. An ugly woman can become extremely desirable by going to the gym. A short man or ugly … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 09:49 PM |
| 8 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?If you have an ugly face you're not attractive You have an unattractive face. It doesn't mean you're unattractive. If you don't understand this, you don't understand how men think or behave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 09:45 PM |
| 10 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?If it was true than male beauty industry wouldn't be non-existant and more guys were putting more effort (plastic surgery, make up, gym) Did you not read my comment? Male beauty standards are immutable. They are things men can't change, like height. That's what makes them higher standards. Men have zero pressure from society to look good Women don't pursue tall, hot men and avoid short, ugly men? That's an interesting fiction you've created in your mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 09:21 PM |
| 8 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?Just because you'd masturbate to her doesn't mean she's attractive That's exactly what it means. Men find her attractive, so they masturbate. There are lots of porn stars with ugly faces Yes, that's my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 09:17 PM |
| 7 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?What does that have to do with what I said? I was using OnlyFans as a proxy for what men find attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 09:08 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?You must not have gone to any gym I’ve ever attended. Seeing a woman lift weights as hard as the average guy isn’t exactly common in my experience. And that’s not even touching the gender ratio at most gyms. Because they can't, is my point. Men are literally built different. It's not just about pure strength, but also our body composition, endurance, bone density, etc. Not eating as much and some low intensity cardio aren’t even in the realm of trying to stay both lean and very muscular as a man… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 08:48 PM |
| 10 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?Eh, no. That goes in the "fuck drunk and deny it later" category. Definitely not. There are reasonably fit butter face mom's on onlyfans getting hundreds of thousands of views. Those women aren't getting wifed up by top tier men, but they could get a relationship easy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 08:46 PM |
| 11 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?Someone has already responded to you well on this, but the majority of what you're describing are societal expectations placed on women by other women, not men on women. No man is asking Julianne Moore to be on the cover of Vanity Fair or Style magazine. If there are no older female actors leading TV shows and movies it's because women aren't demanding it or supporting those shows. The reason why Sylvester Stallone is still starring in movies at 75 is because men love him and will pay money to s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 08:41 PM |
| 78 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?Agreed, men's standards of attractiveness are set radically higher than women's. Most of the attributes women find attractive are immutable - things like height and bone structure. If you're short, you're fucked. The attributes men find attractive are mutable - primarily weight. Even a short, ugly woman with a butter face will have men throwing them at her if her body is nice. I don't agree that women's bodies are easier to maintain than men's bodies though. Women put on more fat and lose fat sl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 07:44 PM |
| 1 | Do you have female friends?I'm married, and I have 1 female friend I've known for many years who is also married. We became distant in the past year when her husband asked me to have sex with her...(they were in an open relationship). That was uncomfortable. I have a personal rule where I do not make new female friends out of respect for my wife. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 07:25 PM |
| 1 | Are monogamous relationships becoming obsolete?How is it sex tourism? We met in the US and then entered a long distance relationship. I'm not kidding about the kids. Please just don't . It's a terrible fate for a child to grow up in that situation. They're pretty much doomed. How so? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 07:00 PM |
| 1 | Are monogamous relationships becoming obsolete?To get laid? Sure. That's lame. Most men are not going to the East to get laid, they are going to get married. Successful men do this all the time, because it is a hedge against divorce risk. The divorce rate in the US is 40% and 80% of the time this is initiated by women. American women have lost all sense of loyalty and sacrifice for family building. Why is it wrong to want someone with a different value system that isn't going to ditch you in a moment of need? I don't care what people do for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Are monogamous relationships becoming obsolete?Marriage is a contract with the government. It is absolutely a tangible thing. Marriage is not a social construct. Relationships are social constructs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 05:06 PM |
| 1 | Are monogamous relationships becoming obsolete?Both exist. Right now I am only asking for the former. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 03:31 PM |
| 0 | Based on my experience women don't seem to value "intelligence" as an attractive traitNot really, I have believed this all my life and the only time it ever burnt me was when i was a teen. It's a really stupid way to think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 03:30 PM |
| -2 | Are monogamous relationships becoming obsolete?OK, you obviously don't get it. There is one objective utility - that's the property of all state changes in existence. Marriage is no different from anything else. The purpose of a bomb is to explode, the purpose of a chair is to sit. Anything can be used for a variety of reasons (A bomb might be put in a museum and a chair might be used in modern art) but that does not change it's objective utility. If you don't understand that then we don't have a reason to talk anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 06:39 AM |
| 1 | Are monogamous relationships becoming obsolete?You're not getting it. I'm not asking you why people get married. I'm asking what is the point of marriage. The point of buying a vehicle is to drive it places,. The reason why someone buys a car may because they are learning to drive, or because they need to get to work, or they just like how it looks and want to take it out on weekends. The must be some non-circular utility to marriage, separate from the personal motivations people do it, and that utility should be objective and clearly demons… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 06:03 AM |
| 3 | Are monogamous relationships becoming obsolete?Yes, i an talking from first hand knowledge. What's your first hand knowledge? As in you know a large number of men who have done this, personally? I’m not entirely sure what you’re trying to say on that first paragraph tbh What was confusing? It seemed like a pretty straight forward point. I disagreed with your characterization and provided examples from my own experiences. Maybe “massive” was not the right word, but i do believe most men on the manosphere have abusive tendencies. Most men who … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 05:54 AM |
| 2 | Are monogamous relationships becoming obsolete?So what's the point then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 05:48 AM |
| -1 | Based on my experience women don't seem to value "intelligence" as an attractive traitSTEM can be very interesting. My wife loves when I talk about it. The problem is most engineers are pretty bad at translating complex technical thoughts into something a layperson can understand and empathize with. Most women have zero knowledge of tech, so phrases that seem simple or interesting to you, require so much background knowledge that they can't keep up with what you're saying. The best thing to do is start by explaining very simple concepts, maybe one every week or so and reinforcing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 05:43 AM |
| 1 | Are monogamous relationships becoming obsolete?Are you talking from first-hand knowledge? That hasn't been my experience at all. Granted I'm coming from a cohort of very wealthy men, but generally these are usually guys who are decent, nice to be around, usually have been married in the past and got burned, or they are a widower, or they had a foreign girlfriend at some point in the past and really liked it. I don't think I've ever encountered an incel with 'massive abusive tendencies.' It's actually a weirdly misogynistic perspective, becau… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 05:24 AM |
| 1 | Are monogamous relationships becoming obsolete?That's dumb. The successful Only Fans girls aren't strippers and the people paying OF girls are not the same people going to seedy clubs every Wednesday. Their porn addicts who follow hot chicks on instagram. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 05:18 AM |
| 1 | Are monogamous relationships becoming obsolete?If it's that flexible, what's the point of marriage at all? Why not just do away with the idea altgoether? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 05:15 AM |
| 3 | No one owes you sex.You're right, you didn't. No one is saying otherwise. You are not entitled to kindness from men you turn down, or anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/21 10:57 PM |
| 1 | No one owes you sex.are you talking about reproduction? we're overpopulated, so not an issue. This is a massive, massive issue. Japan is going through an economic crisis now because of low birth rates and many economists predict acrisis in the US will soon follow. can you go your whole life having sex and not die FROM not having sex (not counting suicide You can go your entire life having any human relationship and you won't die when it gets taken away. We aren't talking about death, we are talking about the things… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/21 10:55 PM |
| 4 | No one owes you sex.And when people responded - "No one is entitled to anything, like love or family. Responding to anyone who has a desire in their life for human relationships with 'You're not entitled to it!' is toxic. " You said "no no no love and family is different" Then you got rightfully got called, because that's a really dumb take. I don't think many people here would disagree with your initial statement, but you clearly either A.) have very obvious double standards or B.) Don't understand everyone is ent… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/21 10:14 PM |
| 44 | Surely its common sense that girls like physically attractive men. Is it a lack of empathy or ability to see it from the other side that allows men to be totally blind sided?No, it's not common sense because women will not be honest about what they want. It's not even intentional. When I met a previous gf she said she was looking for someone who was kind, and nice, and sweet, and was open to sharing his feelings. I pointed out that her previous ex was none of those things. He was wealthy, ambitious, emotionally closed off, and kind of a dick. When I said that it sort of struck her like "Yeah...I guess you're right." She said that yes, she did want other things like … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/21 05:20 PM |
| 9 | People need to learn to give only what they're willing to give without receiving anything in return.Exactly. This is just not how anyone behaves and it's dumb advice. Men take women out on dates because they expect some romantic interest / a future date / sex. We all know the likelihood of getting any of those things is pretty low but we do it anyway. Also, what about things like working at a job? Is OP saying we should do some amount of labor for free? Or that we shouldn't be dong any labor at all? I know I only work in order to be compensated for my time. Also, no one would make any investme… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/21 04:59 PM |
| 3 | No one owes you sex.yeah you CAN get mad, but that doesn't mean your anger is valid. That's your opinion. You are not entitled to determine whether or not someone's reasons to be angry is valid. That's down to their own thoughts and where they are in life. just know that she's well within her rights to decline. your feelings of anger in that situation are not valid. You don't get to decide that. You can have an opinion if you want, but your opinion is no more valid than anyone else's. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/21 04:47 PM |
| 4 | No one owes you sex.You don't need love or kindness to survive either. You're behaving like a child. If you get mad because someone doesn't want to fuck you, im gonna go ahead and call you a piece of shit. You can do whatever you want, but wanting something isn't the same as entitlement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/21 04:45 PM |
| 3 | No one owes you sex.I definitely think it's lame to get mad about not getting sex, I've never done that. But it's important to draw a distinction between lame behavior and entitlement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/21 09:07 AM |
| 5 | No one owes you sex.And men have a right to be upset if women don't give them sex. You can't force people to agree with your perspective or control their emotions. Men want sex, so they are free to advocate for it at every opportunity they choose. Women obviously are not forced to give it to them (that would be rape). Men should not be forced to be happy about this, and women are not entitled to kindness from men they reject. Nothing you are saying has any meaning because it isn't addressing anything. You're just p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/21 03:15 AM |
| 4 | No one owes you sex.People are arguing because you are being a hypocrite by saying XYZ are 'different' from sex for totally arbitrary reasons. If your point is that no one is owed anything at all, then it should extend to all wants and all desires. I assume you think people are still allowed to want and advocate for things, and are also allowed to expect a certain level of treatment from others. If you agree with that, then you are just playing a game of semantics and your post is meaningless. Men have wants and ne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/21 03:12 AM |
| 3 | No one owes you sex.Why, because you say so? Sex is the most important human-to-human interaction for everyone on Earth...it's literally key to our survival. Plenty of people grow up without families or abusive families and they are doing just fine. It incites debate because you are being a hypocrite. No one thinks they are owed free domain over a woman's body, but we are using equivalencies to point out your hypocrisy and because you can't recognizer your own biases it means your opinion on this topic shouldn't be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/21 03:06 AM |
| 6 | No one owes you sex.People can go their whole their lives without shelter. They can go their whole lives without friendship, or kindness, or happiness, or love, or family. If your response to people who lack those things is - 'No one is entitled to do X for you,' you're a shitty person that I would never want to be friends with, and neither would most people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/21 02:06 AM |
| 4 | No one owes you sex.Nope. Because you cannot compel people to act in your interests for nothing in return. You are entitled to absolutely nothing at all in this world. You have to produce value in order to receive value, whether that's food, medicine, clothing, sex, friendship, or anything else. You are drawing an arbitrary line in the sand because it's the only way you can get out of this argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/21 02:03 AM |
| 5 | No one owes you sex.Sex is quite literally the most important human interaction. Without sex, our entire population goes extinct. We have a biological compulsion to reproduce. Trying to write it off as unimportant makes you look like a bad faith liar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/21 02:01 AM |
| 1 | A floor in the thinkingI'm not making things up. I literally described what entitlement is and said it can have a time component. There is nothing that indicates entitlement has a time component. You are making it up, in the most literal sense of the word. Wanting love is a part of being in a relationship and comes with time. It's not entitlement to want love eventually just like it's not entitlement to want sex eventually It's not entitlement to want sex sooner, either. Wanting things is not entitlement. Riskier when… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/21 05:22 AM |
| 1 | A floor in the thinkingIf we are talking about women who like to wait before having sex with a new partner, which are a lot of women, then no, they don't have sex soon after it is apparent they get horny for the guy. I have never been in a relationship where someone was visibly horny (which is the point you just made) and we didn't have sex. Nor do I know anyone who this has happened to. I don't really care what people think is a good amount of time - I care what people actually do. And the vast, vast majority of peop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/21 04:50 AM |
| 1 | A floor in the thinkingNo, I do not acknowledge "the problem" occurs. My whole point is there is no "problem." You acknowledge that women lie. It IS an untruth to say if a woman doesn't have sex immediately, it means she isn't attracted. Strawman. Never said that. How long did your ex have to wait before you had sex with him?" isn't a common question at the beginning of a relationship. But that's not even your issue. Your issue is if any ex had sex with her at all, that means you shouldn't have to wait any amount of t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/21 04:38 AM |
| 1 | A floor in the thinkingNo, I am not making anything up. Entitlement is having a right to something or being deserving of special treatment. Time can definitely be a component. An example would be employment benefits. A lot of companies don't give certain benefits until an employee has worked there a certain amount of time. People feel they are entitled to Nothing in the description you gave of entitlement mentions time. Again, you're just making things up to win the argument. The reason someone is entitled to certain … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/21 02:25 AM |
| 1 | A floor in the thinkingNo, it isn't. I wouldn't expect someone I just started seeing to love me. Please find me some definition of entitlement that has a time component. You're just making shit up to win the argument at this point. No, it's not hypocritical because it's risky behavior for both a man and a woman. In what way is it risky for a man to have sex early? Financial disagreements/issues, addiction, domestic abuse, lack of communication Those are all minor. By far the most common reasons were infidelity (attrac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/21 11:50 PM |
| 1 | A floor in the thinkingNo, it's not a straw man. It's the truth. You aren't "correcting" me. I have already explained to you why your claim is false. You haven't explained anything. You just talked over me and said 'No what you really mean is something you didn't say." No, I do not agree. The best indicator of physical attraction is horniness. I could agree with that, but you'd have to admit that people who make each other visibly horny generally have sex soon after, in the vast majority of cases. What you're saying i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/21 11:36 PM |
| 1 | A floor in the thinkingI merely pointed out that your claim that sex is the only way a woman can show attraction is wrong and indicates that you place sex as the most important thing in a relationship, NOT attraction. I've corrected you three times, and you still insist on swinging at strawman. Do you man, I won't stop you. If attraction was the most important thing, then you would accept other ways women show attraction. Do you agree or disagree that sex is the best indicator of physical attraction? If yes, then my p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/21 10:45 PM |
| 1 | A floor in the thinkingI said I'm not going to debate with you about the most important component of a relationship because it's futile. Then move along, if you have no argument to make. No. Not when your arguments don't make sense. Your arguments are placing sex as the most important component of a relationship, not attraction. Nope. I said sex was the best indicator of physical attraction. I don't think any reasonable person would disagree with this. If you're going to keep talking over me and fight strawmen, go do … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/21 09:41 PM |
| 1 | A floor in the thinkingYou can try to dress it up as advocating for what you want in a relationship all you want but it is you feeling entitled to sex because she's had it with someone else before you. Period. Haha wanting something isn't entitlement. You aren't entitled to love, yet I'm guessing most women would not want to be in a relationship where their partner didn't love them. According to your definitions, that's entitlement. Not having sex with you immediately is not risky behavior. Jeez. In fact, having sex w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/21 09:39 PM |
| 1 | A floor in the thinkingI'm not mad. Just pointing out how this "preference" is based on untruths It's not an untruth. You yourself acknowledge the problem occurs. It's about risk tolerance. I don't want or need a virgin. My wife isn't a virgin. But if she treated me differently than her ex's I wouldn't have continued seeing her. She wants to make sure the guy actually likes her and isn't lying. That's actually one of the most common reasons women have for waiting to have sex with a man. So it's OK when women do it but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/21 09:30 PM |
| 1 | A floor in the thinkingI agree it's best for you to avoid women who don't meet your requirements. It's best for the women as well as yourself. Then why are you getting mad about it? Let people have preferences and move along. No one talked about being a mind reader. You did. It doesn't matter what your intentions are. Women can and do often lie about why they are not giving their boyfriends and husbands what they give other men. I dated a girl who I used to dominate in bed, anal, etc - then claimed she 'grew up' and w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/21 07:48 PM |
| 1 | A floor in the thinkingNope. All relationships are based on physical attraction. Attraction is the single solitary component that a relationship cannot do without. Chemistry is incredibly important, so are shared goals, etc. But without physical attraction, that person is just a friend. No, you are putting sex before anything, not attraction. Nope. Either deal with my arguments as I've presented them or move along. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/21 07:40 PM |
| 1 | A floor in the thinkingYes, I do. And your comment reeked of it. Clearly you don't. No one is entitled to anything. However, people are free to advocate for what they want in a relationship and avoid risky behavior. Never said they did. I said it's the thought process that arrives to that conclusion. So you're just making shit up. Got it. Divorce rates being high have nothing to do with men "waking up." Most divorces are initiated by women. Exactly. Men do not take a strategic approach to getting married. As you've sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/21 07:39 PM |
| 1 | A floor in the thinkingNot all women are the same, just like not all men are the same. Trying to apply one standard to all women is based on faulty logic. No one is a mind reader. Men should not take the risk that you're one of the good ones. Just avoid women who do this and everything is fine. It's self-serving for men who claim women lie about damn near everything to also claim women don't lie when they choose to have sex with someone. Sure they do. But I'd much rather take my chances that a woman is lying about bei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/21 07:00 PM |
| 1 | A floor in the thinkingThe whole problem with your line of thinking is you are placing sex as most important above all else Not sex, attraction. Attraction is more important than anything else. A relationship that is not built on a strong physical attraction will lead to divorce, usually with men suffering. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/21 06:58 PM |
| 1 | A floor in the thinkingEntitlement to sex is one of the most disgusting things I read on this sub. You don't know what entitlement means, clearly. The thought process one has to have to think once a woman has sex, she should just be willing to have sex immediately with every man she dates looks at women as sex objects worth nothing more than a living Fleshlight. Good thing no one said that. All men I've known in real life, as friends and/or lovers, were not concerned with how long the women they dated "made other guys… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/21 06:57 PM |
| 1 | High Value Men are hardworking and entrepreneurial.His cars and his stupid plan to get us to Mars won't work, sadly. Why would I care what a new grad thinks about Elon Musk's plan? No offense but you can't even get get an entry level position at Tesla, why do you think you're qualified to speak on the plan to get us to Mars? lol Our society is too dumb to adapt to electric cars- still! Imagine fighting the oil and gas industry. We're already adapting to electric cars. Go look at the rate of new EVs on the road vs. 10 years ago. Or look at the am… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/21 05:35 AM |
| 2 | A floor in the thinkingBecause as women get older they settle for men they aren't as attracted to in exchange for stability. The poor guys in these relationships usually find their wives hot and don't realize she enjoyed getting dicked down way by Chad than her husband, and he won't get a lot of the crazy wild sex other men got. No one wants to pay top price for sloppy seconds. No one wants to commit longterm to someone that sees them as the second(or third, or fourth best option). I don't think it's unreasonable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/21 05:26 AM |
| 1 | High Value Men are hardworking and entrepreneurial.His ex wrote a book. He has so many sons, most by her. I think I suspect that he artificially elected the sex of his babies. So what? Hos ridiculous accumulation of wealth and GPA/gender/whatever gatekeeping is the exact reason grads like me aren't getting into our expected fields You're mad at Elon because you're not good enough to get into his companies? But while I'm crushed under the weight of poverty, and he's heading towards a trillion, he is the enemy. lol that's really stupid. So the guy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/21 11:15 PM |
| 2 | A floor in the thinkingPain, bleeding, tightness and general discomfort aren't necessary parts of losing your virginity, especially if you do things right. Let's not be dishonest now. It may not be necessary, but it's the majority of cases. It's clear that I don't see someone as just a provider if I'm paying for them on dates and generally investing time and effort in them It does, but it's not clear that you're sexually attracted to them, and that fundamentally is something men care deeply about. It's a combination o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/21 11:12 PM |
| 1 | High Value Men are hardworking and entrepreneurial.lol I don't think Elon Musk personally approved or rejected your application to Tesla He doesn't support the masses. I think vehicle electrification is one of the most important things for planet earth anyone one person could do and he's leading the way. Although IMO settling mars is even more important since earth is a single point of failure Maybe as a man you'd have the luxury of a true friendship... but I'd doubt that. Who cares about true friendship? I would even be OK getting used for some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/21 10:12 PM |
| 1 | High Value Men are hardworking and entrepreneurial.Hell yeah I'd be willing to do that. Do you know how dope it would be to be friends with Elon Musk? Just the networking alone...I'm pretty sure Grimes got like stupidly rich off of that guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/21 09:50 PM |
| 3 | A floor in the thinkingSo now we're on to acting. Pain, bleeding, tightness, general discomfort - all pretty hard things to fake. If someone is going to do all that you're basically describing a sociopath. No, relationships are not built on pure faith. They are built on repeated actions taken to build trust. And sleeping with someone is the number one way to indicate you are sexually attracted to them. This is the literal core of TRP. They advise men not to get stuck with women who see them only as 'providers' while t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/21 09:46 PM |
| 1 | High Value Men are hardworking and entrepreneurial.Uhhh, yeah. Obviously no one has been, that's the whole point. Duh Simping is in, like, personal relationships. So you think I personally know Elon Musk or something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/21 09:31 PM |
| 2 | A floor in the thinkingI mean, it's going to be a tad obvious when you have sex for the first time lol. If you lied then better get that annulment ready... Dude, this isn't a personal attack. IDGAF what you do with your life. But you wondered why you get called a prude and why you're different from a virgin and I told you. It is what it is. Virgins are principled and treat all men the same. You have slept around, make a guy wait, and he has to take it on faith he isn't getting played for a fool. Some guys just aren't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/21 09:28 PM |
| 1 | High Value Men are hardworking and entrepreneurial.I literally could not care less how he treats women. He could throw his baby mammas down the stairwell for all I care and I'd still simp for him - dude is awesome lol. To be fair if there was a woman taking us to mars I wouldn't give a shit if she tricked multiple men into pregnancies or whatever. I just want to go to Mars | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/21 09:15 PM |
| 2 | A floor in the thinkingI live by the principle of not having sex before I'm comfortable and in love, and that's how long it takes. That's fine. And it's fine if men on TRP think you're a prude for that behavior. If a man thinks I'm lying, if he thinks that there's some "Chad" I've been with that I'm not telling him about and he can't trust me to tell the truth about the one person who I've been with, that's on him Sure, that's on him. All I'm saying is it's totally reasonable for men to hedge their bets with women lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/21 09:07 PM |
| 4 | A floor in the thinkingOnce you've given it up, you've given it up. You're living in a binary world. If you make the choice to withhold sex until marriage, you are treating all men the same. No man gets to have sex with you. It is a principled stance that TRP respects and is often for religious or moral reasons. It is definitely prudish, but it's not problematic for TRP. If you have already had sex, then how long you waited is irrelevant. You did the deed with someone else. That means the next man is living in a world… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/21 08:45 PM |
| 2 | A floor in the thinkingIn most of the threads I've seen when TRP men are asked if they wait for virgins, the most upvoted responses are some form of 'yes.' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/21 08:16 PM |
| 2 | A floor in the thinkingAre you a virgin? If not, then you are not 'saving yourself marriage' and it makes sense why you'd be called a prude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/21 08:13 PM |
| 0 | A floor in the thinkingOK, I made a clear argument. Either respond to it or admit you have no response, I guess? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/21 07:27 PM |
| 2 | A floor in the thinkingYes it does. If slutty women exist, men are going to want to sleep with them. Most men don't want to marry a slutty woman, but they'd be willing to wait for a virgin. They would not be willing to wait for someone who has already had sex with another man. What about this confuses you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/21 07:13 PM |
| 0 | A floor in the thinkingNo, this is not what men who want chaste women want. They would be totally fine if no women had sex before marriage, even if they were excluded as well. The problem occurs when they are either A.) Treated differently (Sex for Chad on the first date but I have to wait 2 months) or B.) She's a slut. Most men, even TRP wouldn't mind waiting if the woman was a virgin saving herself for marriage, or at the very least wouldn't be mad at someone with that perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/21 07:02 PM |
| 2 | High Value Men are hardworking and entrepreneurial.lol why do I care if he has multiple baby mamas? He's the world's richest man taking us to Mars, idgaf about who he sleeps with | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/21 08:54 PM |
| 1 | High Value Men are hardworking and entrepreneurial.What's the evidence that wealth distribution was the driving factor? Do you have any? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/21 05:08 AM |
| 1 | High Value Men are hardworking and entrepreneurial.Really? In which of those was wealth redistribution the driving force for prosperity? Scandinavia for example has some of the largest oil reserves in the world compared to its population which probably contributes to 'prosperity' a little bit more than wealth distribution. In fact I believe that countries like Norway had a more successful middle class in the 1970s - 60s than today. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/21 04:59 AM |
| 5 | Q for TRP: If your dream girl proposed marriage to you RIGHT NOW, would you accept?You guys make an extreme claim like 'there's no such thing as good or bad women' and then when you realize how fucking stupid that statement is it's my fault for calling it out. Okey dokey | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/21 04:55 AM |
| 1 | High Value Men are hardworking and entrepreneurial.Which specifically? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/21 04:54 AM |
| 2 | High Value Men are hardworking and entrepreneurial.The butthurt is strong in this thread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/21 04:51 AM |
| 1 | High Value Men are hardworking and entrepreneurial.Which European societies? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/21 04:50 AM |
| 2 | High Value Men are hardworking and entrepreneurial.I simp for Elon Musk 100%. Why be ashamed of it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/21 04:49 AM |
| 1 | Q for TRP: If your dream girl proposed marriage to you RIGHT NOW, would you accept?What seems unrealistic to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/21 04:48 AM |
| 1 | Q for TRP: If your dream girl proposed marriage to you RIGHT NOW, would you accept?Hitler and Ghandi, basically the same amirite? Everyone's just a person, no more or less! Gold-diggers are no different from loyal house wives! Your mother and Paris Hilton? No difference at all. LOL what are you guys smoking, and can I have some of it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/21 04:47 AM |
| 1 | Q for TRP: If your dream girl proposed marriage to you RIGHT NOW, would you accept?Not really. People's behavior is predictable. I've never had a close friend and certainly not a relationship partner that did something I either totally didn't expect or understand, except maybe when I was a teenager and barely paid attention to anyone else's behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/21 12:28 AM |
| 3 | Q for TRP: If your dream girl proposed marriage to you RIGHT NOW, would you accept?Men can't determine who is good or not, how bizarre. I'm pretty great at selecting good women. Maybe speak for yourself? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/21 10:31 PM |
| 5 | Q for TRP: If your dream girl proposed marriage to you RIGHT NOW, would you accept?So there's no such thing as good people or bad people? A murderer is the same as a saint? I feel like I'm living in loony tunes world when I read this god damn sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/21 10:17 PM |
| 2 | How low can you go.....Financially speakingI gave several examples of what I meant. Do you think I'm lying, or do you disagree with my framing? If so, why? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 08:47 PM |
| 2 | How low can you go.....Financially speakingWhat specifically do you feel I've said is untrue? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 08:17 PM |
| 3 | How low can you go.....Financially speakingNothing is an indicator in and of itself, every variable requires context and additional data points, but status absolutely is a predictor of character. If you took the average of all women from wealthy families and all women from families in poverty, you would see much higher drug abuse, infidelity, STD transmission rate, lower IQ, and trauma for those in poverty. For that reason, on average, I would pick a woman of status from a good family over a woman from poverty over a good family. I have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 08:16 PM |
| 2 | How low can you go.....Financially speakingI'm obnoxious because I have preferences shaped by my life experiences? Please explain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 08:01 PM |
| 2 | How low can you go.....Financially speakingBecause status is a predictor of character. The same way a homeless person with a heart of gold is much more likely to have deep trauma and mental health issues than a rich kid from a good family. I understand that makes people upset, but it's the truth. In my experience, even amazing people have deep flaws which may not surface until much later in a relationship, and those flaws can often be tied directly to poverty, trauma, and single motherhood. If I had the ability to statistically avoid tho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 07:59 PM |
| 2 | How low can you go.....Financially speakingWhy are you so butthurt over my personal preferences? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 07:53 PM |
| 3 | How low can you go.....Financially speakingI'm not interested in people from poor backgrounds, same way I'm not interested in the children of single mothers. I don't care if they've overcome their status - it's a risk I'm unwilling to take. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 07:52 PM |
| 1 | How low can you go.....Financially speakingNone of the girls I mentioned were gold-diggers or had bad character, you can't judge them one-dimensionally. I'm not saying they were bad people, just that they had never been around wealth before and reacted poorly. In my experience, women from money do not have this problem. They understand what is reasonable to spend, ask before sizable purchases, and are generally very strong financial communicators and can manage money well. (My wife actually manages all my finances for me). I never had to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 07:48 PM |
| 1 | How low can you go.....Financially speakingIf I'm seriously dating someone or in a LTR, sure I don't mind them having access to my credit card. I wouldn't call that 'frivolous.' Again, it has nothing to do with the money they spend. It's an irrelevant amount to me. It's about their behavior - and treating someone who cares about you with respect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 07:40 PM |
| 1 | How low can you go.....Financially speakingI don't have a problem giving money to someone. In fact, I like paying for things. I have a problem with treating someone else's money carelessly and irresponsibly, which poor women are apt to do, and women from better financial situations are not. That's all there is to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 07:35 PM |
| 2 | How low can you go.....Financially speakingYes, that's the point. I don't need to set boundaries with people who come from money because they know how to conduct themselves. Women aren't children. I shouldn't have to tell them these things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 07:31 PM |
| 2 | How low can you go.....Financially speakingI was obviously giving you examples of women who came from poor backgrounds, since that's what you asked about. I don't need to set 'boundaries or expectations' with women from higher income families because they know how to behave, and that's the type of person I'd prefer to date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 07:29 PM |
| 0 | How low can you go.....Financially speakingThey were mature in other areas or I wouldn't have dated them. These problems developed over time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 07:27 PM |
| 1 | How low can you go.....Financially speakingShould I have given them cash instead? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 07:26 PM |
| 1 | How low can you go.....Financially speakingThink whatever you want, that's been my personal experience. I recall giving a girl I was dating my credit card so she could buy some nice clothes for an upcoming set of interviews. I told her to have a $500 limit and she spent a $1000 instead and only told me about after she had bought what she wanted. I was really angry at her and she legitimately did not understand why it was a big deal 'since I was rich.' I had a girlfriend who wanted a personal trainer and dietitian and I told her I'd take … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 07:14 PM |
| 1 | How low can you go.....Financially speakingYes. I'm half black, I've dated many black women from good families. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 07:03 PM |
| -1 | How low can you go.....Financially speakingThat's good for her. I'm just not interested in people with her background. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 06:33 PM |
| -1 | How low can you go.....Financially speakingI would be what most people call wealthy. At minimum I want someone who takes their career and (potentially) education seriously. They should be financially secure and are not looking for a man to provide them, or see me as a cash grab to fund their lifestyle. They should already have the ability to handle all of that for themselves. I also want someone from the upper class, or at least upper middle class. They should know how to handle themselves around money, they can hold a conversation with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 06:14 PM |
| 2 | TRP or FDS: Which side deals in absolutes more often and has the most bitter followers?No one said anything except FDS is misandrist and hateful, in the same way TRP is misogynist and hateful. We're on a debate sub. If you can't handle debating ideas without making it personal, maybe you're the one that needs to get off your phone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 06:25 AM |
| 9 | Do you personally see it as a red flag if someone who wasn't interested in you before later seems interested after they find out you own a home (or other asset)?It's not exposing anyone. In the same way women understand beauty is key to attracting men, men know status and material things are key to attracting women. Both groups still hope to be wanted and loved by their partners for more than just those things. I don't think it's unreasonable desire, unless you have the critical thinking of a child and can only process people being wanted for 1 or 2 traits at a time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 06:20 AM |
| 2 | TRP or FDS: Which side deals in absolutes more often and has the most bitter followers?'Deliberately missing the point' is a nonsense phrase. You're just making a bad point. Just because men are more violent than women on average, does not invalidate that being hateful is an equally bad thing across any categorical group. You don't get a pass to be hateful because you have tits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 06:08 AM |
| 2 | TRP or FDS: Which side deals in absolutes more often and has the most bitter followers?Just because someone isn't getting killed doesn't make misandry a non-issue. Racism is bad, even if no one is dying. Homophobia is bad, even if no one is dying. What a stupid take. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 06:01 AM |
| 2 | TRP or FDS: Which side deals in absolutes more often and has the most bitter followers?I have no idea what your point is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/21 08:28 PM |
| 1 | What are your standards in a partner?It sounds like you're just describing your current partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/21 06:23 PM |
| 4 | TRP or FDS: Which side deals in absolutes more often and has the most bitter followers?I think it's pretty clear FDS is more bitter. TRP teaches men to accept reality and change themselves for the better. FDS teaches women to reject reality in search of unicorns, and look down on/spite normal men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/21 06:22 PM |
| 2 | TRP or FDS: Which side deals in absolutes more often and has the most bitter followers?TRP is not killing countless women. Stop lying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/21 06:20 PM |
| 4 | TRP or FDS: Which side deals in absolutes more often and has the most bitter followers?men generally do the chasing, which means men get to pick, while women have to chose between the options presented This makes no sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/21 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Ladies, what is your max age gap and why?This sub is fucking hilarious. Women on PPD claim constantly that women would never date older men and its all a male fantasy, yet most of the comments are saying they'd be totally fine with 8-10 year age gaps. Total disconnect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 03:40 AM |
| 1 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?Seems like you have nothing else to debate. Move along then. You might want to give r/relationships a try and avoid debate subs from now on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 03:35 AM |
| 1 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?Exhibit A. Anything else? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 08:52 PM |
| 1 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?I said all you have is insults, not that I wasn't insulting you. Meaning you lack any relevant arguments. You then went on to say that you would not have children with a partner you weren’t married to, because it’s too big of a commitment to make with someone who doesn’t meet your standards for marriage. So which is it? Is marriage best for child rearing or are both equivalently desirable to you? You are confused, it seems. A. I want to share my assets (home, cars, income) with someone that can … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 08:23 PM |
| 1 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?In what way am I contradicting myself? Quote me, or move along because you have nothing to provide besides sarcasm and insults. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 07:50 PM |
| 0 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?No? Why would I advocate for men to sire babies with every hussy they meet and owe tens of thousands of dollars in child support, to women they don't even like. What did I say that gave you the impression that would be a good idea? If I didn't care about my partner increasing my assets, then yes I would see no reason to get married before having children. But that is indeed something I care about. In what way am I doing the opposite? Again, if you're just going to say silly unintelligent things … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?Ah so it looks like you actually do agree that it’s better not to have children with someone you aren’t married to. How did you get that from what I said? If you're not going to read or respond to my arguments critically why are you even here? Let's wrap it up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 06:32 PM |
| 1 | Every single polyamorous couple I've interracted with was instigated by the female party.Exactly. I was really clear with my wife about that. I literally told her I expected to be with multiple woman at once. She went out of her way to clarify with me she didn't want to do the same (I would never have forced her if she really wanted to, I just wouldn't have stayed with her). If she initiated we would have broken up 100%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 05:34 PM |
| -2 | Every single polyamorous couple I've interracted with was instigated by the female party.I'm in such a relationship and it was instigated by me (the man). I told my wife on our second date that I had no intention of being sexually loyal, and she needed to accept that if we were going to continue seeing each other. She decided to accept it, and 1 year later we got married. My wife is very, very attractive. An 8-9 across the board, depending on your preferences (she's my type). I'm more like a 5-7 in the face (depending on your race), but an 8 in terms of body. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 05:30 PM |
| 1 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?Sure, 'illegitimate' is just a word. It has no practical meaning. A child from a married family is just the same as one from an unmarried family. I didn't do it myself because I don't want to build a life and raise children with someone who adds no financial value to me. That is a minimum 18 year commitment, and I am not interested in making that commitment with a leech. One other question- why marry someone you’re romantically involved with at all? If marriage is just about splitting assets, wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 05:19 PM |
| 7 | Women have higher standards for casual sex. This tends to demonstrate that committed relationships are the consolation prizeWomen want Chad most, then they settle for betas because they can't lock down the alphas. Betas are consolation prizes since they are not the preferred option. It's as simple as that. It's like renting a Lambo while in Miami, then having to settle for a 2004 Impala because you can't afford anything better and desperately need a way to the office. The argument from women is like: "Well see the Impala has superior fuel economy and has more affordable insurance and and and." No it's because you can… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 05:12 AM |
| 6 | Women have higher standards for casual sex. This tends to demonstrate that committed relationships are the consolation prizeAlphas are attractive irrespective of their personalities or compatibility. Chad has infinitely more LTR options than beta Bill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 04:31 AM |
| 6 | Women have higher standards for casual sex. This tends to demonstrate that committed relationships are the consolation prizeYou're not really disagreeing with OP. They are saying women really want hot men, and betas are the consolation prize because they can't get an equally hot guy to commit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 04:04 AM |
| 9 | Women have higher standards for casual sex. This tends to demonstrate that committed relationships are the consolation prizeYep. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 03:59 AM |
| 0 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?What legal protections, specifically? Too risky. In what way? Also idk man, marriage existed before it was regulated by the government. Sure, and they weren't compelled to forfeit half their assets in the event the marriage didn't work out. Why can’t people just want to be married, and easily proclaim to the world “this person is mine and I am theirs” while also tying their assets, life, etc. together? You're conflating multiple things to make your point. You can proclaim someone is yours to the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 03:46 AM |
| 0 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?Eh, people are replaceable and there are billions of women. Why settle one that adds no value outside a romantic relationship? Either way, you’re out here telling guys to knock up randos instead of starting a family with their wife, seems disengenuous to me. If they want to have a life and children with someone who adds no financial value, sure. Unless I’m missing something. How many illegitimate children do you have? Clearly. Why would you assume I have illegitimate children? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 03:37 AM |
| 1 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?No, lower. Relationship standards are separate. As we've already established, marriage is a financial contract revolving around assets. You are held to an objectively lower standard in that regard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 02:31 AM |
| 1 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?Well, according to your previous posts you have absolutely put a dollar amount on the value he adds (house, retirement, income). It sounds like he didn't think this through as well as you did. I'm sure you are glad your husband holds you to lower standards than I hold my wife. Everyone wants an easier life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 02:24 AM |
| 1 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?Case in point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 02:16 AM |
| 1 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?Assumedly because she gets access to a home she didn't work for and a lifestyle she didn't create. She can take advantage of these assets without paying the cost for them, which may be significantly better than trying to pay this cost on her own with (often) worse results. It's the same reason why you'd want to work at a company instead of become a founder. The former is much easier, but you get no equity. While the latter is extremely hard, but you get massive equity. Modern women want a salari… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 02:15 AM |
| 1 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?You can do whatever you want. What am I interested in debating is generalities and common rules / axioms, particularly from the male perspective. I am a married man. And I live by my principles. I love my wife. We have a great relationship, get along well, and have great chemistry. That being said, I only married her when I thought she could help me increase my assets. And she's done exactly that. Even if we divorced today, I would still be up significantly because of things she has done. I woul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 02:09 AM |
| 1 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?He should be paying more than half if the mother is doing all the actual work of caring for the child. Most fathers would prefer to have more custody of their children, not less. I'm sure men would gladly accept seeing their children more frequently while paying the same child support costs. Either way it’s dumb as hell for any woman to agree to that, you’re not going to convince me otherwise. You really love calling women dumb. You have a surprising amount in common with RedPill in that way. It… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 02:01 AM |
| 1 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?It shouldn't, because I agree asset sharing is the only valuable part of marriage. My point is, given that truth (which you apparently co-sign) a man should never marry a woman that does not have the ability to substantially increase their joint assets, as it becomes a major financial risk in the event of divorce otherwise. Again - marriage has nothing at all to do with children. Marriage results in asset splitting regardless of whether children exist or not. We are talking about a specific gove… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 01:58 AM |
| 1 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?The average expenditure per child per year is $9400. $5160 per year makes up more than half this amount, and does not include what the father is paying for the child outside child support. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 01:53 AM |
| 2 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?In a relationship where a man and a woman have a child, the burden of birthing and caring for that child naturally falls more to the woman than the man because she is the one who gestates the fetus and breastfeeds the baby. Doing so is an economic cost for her because it interferes with her ability to earn an income. This is why fathers take care of their children and their mother's financially when a woman can't provide for herself. Therefore marriage is necessary to force the man to compensate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 01:46 AM |
| 1 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?No, you were speaking in generalities. You said any man that won't marry a woman (even if that woman provides no financial value in a financial arrangement) isn't worth reproducing with. I call that 'trash.' You offered no explanation for why this is necessary (besides calling other women stupid), and no counter to the fact that millions of couples have children and relationships without government contracts. You even explained in your initial comment on the importance of asset sharing. I think … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 01:33 AM |
| 1 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?LOL no argument at all. Just: "If he doesn't do what I want, he's trash." Are we done? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 01:21 AM |
| 1 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?What you care to do is not relevant to me. There are millions of women who feel differently. Whether you personally agree or not, it is possible (and common) to have love and children without needing a government contract. The only reason to get married is asset sharing. Hence, if a woman cannot contribute to meaningfully growing your joint assets she is not worth marrying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 01:16 AM |
| 1 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?A child and romantic partner is the result of a romantic relationship - not marriage. Anything in marriage can be reduced to a dollar amount. Also.. maybe they have no value but the work of gestating, birthing and caring for them should have some economic value, considering that no one is going to do those things for free for you if your wife didn’t do them Marriage is not necessary for this. Women and men do it without marriage on their own volition all the time. Whether it has economic value i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 01:12 AM |
| 1 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?Children are not assets, they are human beings. They do not have a monetary value. Also, rights to parenthood would be split regardless of if a marriage existed or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 01:06 AM |
| 1 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?Yes, getting married for the benefits of asset sharing makes sense. I'm not sure how your point addresses what the original commentor was saying. However, this would mean that the primary reason for marriage is not love, taxes, or whatever silliness is being spewn in this thread: it's for financial renumeration in the event of a divorce. If a woman is not helping you grow your assets such that in the event of divorce you are still net positive then there is no reason to marry her, otherwise the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/21 11:11 PM |
| 0 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?Eh, those are still benefits of marriage though, to be considered as part of the package. Right, but my point is it is never the reason people actually make the decision. More like a nice bonus they get after the fact. And for me the question isn’t “why get married” it is “why would I ever want to tie myself for life to someone who cannot even commit to me legally?” Why do you want someone who can commit to you legally? Why is it not enough for someone to commit to you romantically, sexually, fi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/21 10:30 PM |
| 1 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?If the commitment is there, why not get married? Because marriage has a significant failure tax (up to 50% of your assets) which outweighs nearly every benefit by a large margin. I've never heard anyone advocate marriage for the tax breaks or retirement, except in conversations like this. This is not a common reason anyone gets married, in my experience. I can’t speculate on what a world would be like without marriage since we don’t live in that world. This is intellectually lazy. Counterfactual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/21 09:58 PM |
| 1 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?Right, so the value for her is asset splitting. I agree that is the sole reason for marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/21 09:48 PM |
| 1 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?Why does she want marriage? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/21 09:14 PM |
| 1 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?You're talking about families, not about marriage. You don't need marriage to live together or raise children together. What additional value does marriage add? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/21 08:33 PM |
| 1 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?Why do you need a marriage for children? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/21 07:34 PM |
| 1 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?Don't you think thats probably because the couples who get married usually have stronger commitment to each other than those who don't, not that marriage has some innate properties which make a family healthy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/21 07:33 PM |
| 2 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?I look at it as a partnership. Why is marriage required for anything you described here? Were you and your partner not committed pre-marriage? If the idea of marriage didn't exist, would you have been less committed to each other without it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/21 07:31 PM |
| 2 | Women Should Not Be Expected to Work or Have a Career.Human society would disagree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/21 04:09 AM |
| 0 | Women Should Not Be Expected to Work or Have a Career."Crucial function to human existence no longer a safe bet" - random Redditor | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/21 03:04 AM |
| 1 | What do you mean when you say men have fragile egos?OK well let me plain - you're wrong and arguing in bad faith. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 08:28 AM |
| 1 | What do you mean when you say men have fragile egos?You never said I was lying or made that clear whatsoever. Anyway, no reason to debate with someone who argues in bad faith. See ya. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 07:16 AM |
| 1 | What do you mean when you say men have fragile egos?OK, then we can both agree you're a bad person and move on from that line of argumentation. And, AGAIN, my argument is that worrying about being the best, rather than your partner's happiness, is rooted in insecurity. You've done nothing to prove otherwise. You haven't proven anything to begin with, or even made an argument. It's impossible to prove or disprove your perspective because there is no evidence one way or the other. It's just your imagination, because you are projecting what you thin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 07:10 AM |
| 1 | What do you mean when you say men have fragile egos?I am using my relationship as an example to support my arguments. You said people who think the way we do are 'immature and insecure.' That is false. Again, this is a debate sub. If your argument is that you shouldn't have to approve of people's loving relationships because they are different, then I am going to challenge you on that, because I think it's wrong, and I think people who think this way are bad. You can think whatever you want, but I also have the right to call you a bad person for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 04:16 AM |
| 1 | What do you mean when you say men have fragile egos?Yes, I am expecting others to approve it. Why wouldn't they? No one is being hurt and the relationship is great. What's not to approve of? Again...They're just gradients of the same thing, and you are adding an arbitrary boundary on what is driven by 'ego' and what is 'normal.' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 04:05 AM |
| 1 | What do you mean when you say men have fragile egos?It's a debate sub. Why would I post here if not to change minds about things I believe and win arguments. Don't flatter yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 03:15 AM |
| 1 | What do you mean when you say men have fragile egos?Wanting to be desired = Great and fine. Wanting to be desired the most = Immature and driven by insecurity. So unbelievably judgemental. I want to the best for my wife. Sexually, emotionally, everything. That matters to me. She wants to be the best for me too. We fit really well together becuse it's something we both want. Attacking people who feel this way and insulting them is just wacky to me. Why can't you just acknowledge some people want different things and that's ok? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 01:29 AM |
| 2 | What do you mean when you say men have fragile egos?Again, you're imposing an arbitrary threshold on what constitutes 'ego' and what doesn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 01:22 AM |
| 3 | What do you mean when you say men have fragile egos?What in the fuck does that matter? So are you saying that anything that you want in the relationship is now ego??? If I think the most likely successful relationship is one where I'm desired then that means I'm driven by ego? That's not just...being intelligent? You even said if your partner thought you were ugly then you would want to break up. So how the fuck is that different? Why does it matter if your partner thinks your ugly, as long as they want to be with you? That's your argument. It's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 12:34 AM |
| 2 | What do you mean when you say men have fragile egos?It does bother women, because I've seen it and experienced it. I've literally been asked these same types of questions outside the context of sex. It's not ego, it's a clear signal of where you stand on the totem pole of relationships. Being wanted is not ego, that's like without a doubt the number one indicator of longterm relationship success. That's like saying how much you're paid at a job relative to others is not an indication of how much the company values you. It quite literally is exact… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 12:26 AM |
| 3 | What do you mean when you say men have fragile egos?OK fine, so you think 'the women here' would all feel the same as you? Don't fucking obfuscate, you're trying to say you only know your own personal experience while generalizing and speaking for other people. You're Jean Gray and can read men's minds but can't speak for other women. OK then Then what exactly are you saying? Again, my point is that what he's done in the past is irrelevant. I'll make my choices based on what he actually does (or doesn't do) for me. Are you trolling? Can you read?… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 12:18 AM |
| 3 | What do you mean when you say men have fragile egos?I have no idea what you're saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 12:12 AM |
| 3 | What do you mean when you say men have fragile egos?You keep ignoring the point I'm making for a strawman. I'm not fucking asking you if your partner is honest sometimes. I was really clear. I asked you if you think sincerity means 100% honesty at all times. EDIT: I think the point you're missing is that if someone thinks I'm ugly, we shouldn't be dating anyway. Why would I want someone to fake their attraction to me? So you think there are no moments in your relationship when you're less attracted to your partner? You think attraction is always … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 12:11 AM |
| 5 | What do you mean when you say men have fragile egos?So sincerity means 100% honesty at all times even if it hurts your feelings? Your feelings would never, ever be hurt by honesty? Do you think all women feel this way? You also only responded to a grand total of one of my examples. If your partner thinks you don't look pretty one day, you would prefer he sincerely tell you that you look ugly? And this isn't 'protecting women's ego?' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 12:03 AM |
| 4 | What do you mean when you say men have fragile egos?Ok, so you didn't answer my question. You don't want to be the best partner your spouse has ever had? You would be fine if that wasn't the case and it would have no impact on you at all if you were say, his tenth best partner? And you think that other women all feel exactly the same way as you? And you think it's unreasonable for someone to want to be their life partner's best romantic relationship? And I would base that impact strictly on the fact that he won't do it. Do you expect me to be mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/21 11:58 PM |
| 1 | It's not "the patriarchy" that upholds unattainable beauty standards, it's other women.So what? Do you think that the beauty standard in Feudal Japan was less than what it is today? I would argue it was much, much more before big business or television or any of the things you mentioned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/21 10:30 PM |
| 1 | What do you mean when you say men have fragile egos?So what do you mean by it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/21 10:29 PM |
| 8 | What do you mean when you say men have fragile egos?So a woman doesn't want to be the best thing he's ever had? Are we living on different planets or something? What woman do you know wants to be second or third or fourth place and would be happy in that relationship? Are you saying if a woman wanted really wanted to do some sexual activity, and her partner had done it with previous partners, but he wasn't interested in doing it with her she would just shrug her shoulders and say "OK!" and it would have no impact on her? Am I taking crazy pills? … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/21 10:18 PM |
| 12 | What do you mean when you say men have fragile egos?Do women not have these qualities? 'Tell her how beautiful and perfect she is even if she's not" "take her on dates to nice places so she feels loved" "Get her gifts even if you don't want to" "Don't compliment other women" "If she asks if she looks fat, lie and tell her she looks amazing" "Be sure to notice any detail on her body that changes or else she'll be self conscious" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/21 10:14 PM |
| 7 | What do you mean when you say men have fragile egos?Oh I see, so the negative aspects of femininity are not actually femininity, just 'validation in looks and beauty' (of course this isn't something women care about vastly more than men, as we all know by the men's beauty movement that every man subscribes to). Don't be a hypocrite, hold women to the same standard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/21 10:10 PM |
| 2 | What do you mean when you say men have fragile egos?Women do not like feminine men whatsoever. They like hot men, Hot men can do basically anything they want and get away with it. Put a fat steel average steelworker in a dress and make-up and women will find it revolting almost unviersally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/21 10:04 PM |
| 2 | It's not "the patriarchy" that upholds unattainable beauty standards, it's other women.So you think there wasn't a 'beauty standard' pre-fashion industry? Victorian England and Feudal Japan would like a word. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/21 08:13 AM |
| 1 | Fellow men, women don't say the truth because WE get angry when they doNah, men have always had standards. It's not like wanting a woman who is attractive, feminine and can cook/take care of the house is new. It just hasn't been reinforced by media and parents the last couple decades. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/21 08:03 AM |
| 4 | Fellow men, women don't say the truth because WE get angry when they doNo, because this is a new phenomena. Women are growing up now being told 'you can have whatever you want,' 'you deserve the best,' 'you can do whatever you want with your body,' etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/21 01:10 AM |
| 1 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingI don't think what you want is fantasy, but the likelihood of that event happening is dependent on the effort you put into locating the right person and modifying your behavior to benefit your longterm goals. In short, you need to focus on outcomes instead of ideology. As an example: The best men out there often have a minimum standard of looks/fitness they expect from a partner. This standards will vary by the man, but being conventionally hot will almost never hurt your relationship (though wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 10:57 PM |
| 3 | Fellow men, women don't say the truth because WE get angry when they doI guess? I mean it's the same thing men who get into redpill struggle with too right? They are told something incorrect by society and are shocked when they run into the wall of reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 10:36 PM |
| 9 | Fellow men, women don't say the truth because WE get angry when they doBecause it's true? Y'all forgive whoring around for hot ass. Don't tell me it's not true, I'm in my 30s. Having few experiences as a woman in your 30s doesn't mean shit except for the few dudes that... Fetishize it? How to explain... I'll get back to that if you want. Exhibit A. HVM are not marrying whores, which is why women settle for betas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 08:05 PM |
| 25 | Fellow men, women don't say the truth because WE get angry when they doI think this is pretty uncharitable. There are SO many women that have literally no idea of what men want in a relationship. That's one of the main reasons the manosphere is exploding these days - women legitimately think whoring around in their 20s and then waiting until their 30s to date seriously will get them a 'high value man,' and that all they need to do is believe and manifest it and these men will come to them by the boat load. Many of them are learning for the first time how men actual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 06:58 PM |
| 4 | Theory: what benefit is there for women in lying about sexual choices?You have a crazy victim complex. Wow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 02:11 AM |
| 4 | Will advancement and egalitarianism of society lead to a collapse in such societies?Because they are marrying later, if at all. Why do you think that is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 02:09 AM |
| 1 | Why don’t more men become prostitutes and porn stars?Its both, obviously. Please find me some examples of many pornstars who hate having sex. Most I've seen say they enjoy it. You're literally just making shit up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 02:07 AM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'Let's be clear that women have physical standards in addition to financial standards. You talk as if men are the only ones with physical standards. Irrelevant. Standards are standards - men and women value different things. But I generally see a big difference between "I don't want to be with a poor guy because men are the main breadwinners and being poor sucks and is stressful" and "I need a guy who's earning six-figures or $200K or $500K" or whatever. Then you don't understand market dynamics.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 04:58 PM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'Men and women are different. We value different things. That is the core of redpill. You don't care about the lifestyle a woman can provide to you, but women do. We have a fundamentally different way of seeing the world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 04:54 PM |
| 0 | Why don’t more men become prostitutes and porn stars?Yes. 100% and it isn't even debatable. If straight men did enjoy it, then you would see many more straight men doing gay porn. The evidence is in the outcome. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 04:53 PM |
| 1 | Why don’t more men become prostitutes and porn stars?The proof is in the pudding. If straight men enjoyed gay sex as much as women enjoyed straight sex, there would be a lot more straight men doing gay porn. It's just that simple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 04:51 PM |
| 6 | Why don’t more men become prostitutes and porn stars?I'd wager they enjoy it much more than a straight man having gay sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 07:15 AM |
| 5 | Why don’t more men become prostitutes and porn stars?1000x more than a straight man having gay sex, yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 06:19 AM |
| 12 | Why don’t more men become prostitutes and porn stars?Gay sex is not enjoyable for a straight man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 06:18 AM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'Now that I agree with. That being said, there are a lot of women who are hot and active in the dating market that understand their value pretty well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 04:26 AM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'I just explained to you how both of those statements are true, using the exact framework I described in our debate without adding a single thing. You still don't understand, do you? It's like you're looking at an algebra equation and the professor is explaining to you what it means, but all you can see is numbers and letters on a chalkboard. Let's call it a day bud. Get some rest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 03:59 AM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'If a woman wouldn’t date you at 50k but would when you’re a top-earner, that, by YOUR OWN DEFINITION, is a gold digger. The only thing that changed is money. You do not understand how markets work. I will give a practical example, since this is obviously going so far over your head you couldn't see it pass with a pair of binoculars. A woman prioritizes wealth less than other attributes. Let's imagine the split is 25/75. By my definition, this does not make her a gold-digger. However, she is also… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 03:51 AM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'Nope, I gave a crystal clear definition. It was not remotely opaque. You’re proving my point though. Excessive focus on income is gold-digging. I gave you an exact definition of gold-digger, which you chose to ignore and regurgitate old talking point that don't deal with my argument at all. Are we done? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 03:20 AM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'Not really. Certainly the supply and demand of/for food has to do with a food addict’a consumption of it. Consumption is irrelevant. I can send 500 emails a day and never become addicted to emails. It's the physical properties of food that cause addiction. But according to you, a woman who cares about being provided for is being reasonable. So at what point do you separate “gold-digger” from “a woman that wants to be provided for” because your definition of “valuing wealth at the expense of othe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 03:02 AM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'You asked what a gold-digger was, and I told you. It's someone who prioritizes wealth in a relationship over all other attributes. There are people who meet that criterion. Much like there are no food-addicted people, since eating is merely survival? Certainly, food addicts exist. Their choices are affected by changes in their brain chemistry due to the makeup of the foods they eat, not markets. It's an irrelevant point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 02:44 AM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'There is no universal number for financial stability. It is only based your lifestyle, goals, and market worth. In the same way some people value more salary, others might value company mission more. These tradeoffs are on a sliding scale and vary based on an individuals life situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 02:36 AM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'This shows a complete ignorance of economics. Yes, you can divorce market dynamics from choices because those underlying forces which drive markets have the same principles - supply and demand. I say to you again, understanding your worth in the market is not shallow. A golddigger is a woman who prioritizes wealth in a relationship at the expense of all other attributes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 02:20 AM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'The implications of the outcome of your choices within the market are irrelevant to the dynamics of the market itself. There is no difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 02:13 AM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'Irrelevant. I'm describing universal characteristics of all markets. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 02:03 AM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'Nope, you don't get to run away. It was a great analogy: the dating market is perfectly analogous to the job market. Your definition of 'needlessly high' is irrelevant. The market determines what you deserve, not your personal opinion. Understanding your worth and pursuing it is not shallow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 01:58 AM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'Nope. It's a package deal. You want to be paid well and have a good working environment. You'll take less pay for a good working environment, but there is a minimum threshold you're willing to accept based on your experience. That's not being shallow, it's knowing your worth in the market. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 01:43 AM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'The best provider they can get - given their other criteria are met. A woman will go for less money, if they get the other attributes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 01:39 AM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'Yes, they go after the best provider they can get. This convo is boring now. Bye bye | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 01:35 AM |
| 2 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'You are exactly the person being described in this response. Nothing interesting about your comments, so I'll head out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 01:34 AM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'Nope, there is no average wealth or attractiveness expected. It's based on the best you can get. A man who can get beautiful women will go for it, a woman who can a wealthy man will go for it. That's all there is to it. Everyone has a standard relative to their own desirability. You're either trying to make this way more complicated than it is, or you're lying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 01:29 AM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'You think people are shallow for having a standard of looks. If that's shallow to you, then literally everyone on Earth is shallow. It's not ambiguous at all. Desirable men want the best women (looks) desirable women want the best men (wealth). Both want good partnership and love. That's all there is to it. You're not a hero because you're poor and ugly and date to your own standard which appear to be very low. lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 01:25 AM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'Then everyone is shallow and the word loses it's meaning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 01:19 AM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'So you think women are shallow for wanting men who provide for them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 01:18 AM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'And does disqualifying someone on the basis of looks make someone shallow too? Please. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 01:16 AM |
| 0 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'Right, it's called experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 01:11 AM |
| 0 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'Liking some shallow things doesn't mean you're a shallow person. Another thread mentioned that - you guys have this weird obsession with characterizing people by 1 or 2 dimensions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 01:10 AM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'Of course it's hypocritical. It's like the definition of hypocritical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 12:38 AM |
| 3 | Women that won't do sexual acts with you, but had done with previous partners, isn't an indicator she's not attracted to you enough to do them.Here's the problem. There might be perfectly valid reasons why someone 'grew out of liking' a sex act. On the other hand, it's not uncommon for women to do certain sex acts with men because they are extremely attracted to them and would do whatever those men wanted, and probably enjoy it. There is literally no way for men to tell which is which, because many times women themselves don't know. I had an ex girlfriend who I fucked sadistically and she really enjoyed it (shaking orgasms). Later she … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 12:32 AM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'I think people with options don't care if they're being hypocritical or not, because they can get what they want anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 12:26 AM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'If women said they'd 'take a pass' on high value men who value their looks as the barrier to date I'd call them stupid too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 12:24 AM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'And I’m arguing that my lifestyle is independent of my person. You can argue that all you want, but it isn't the case. The lifestyle you provide is part of who you are and what makes men attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 11:22 PM |
| 2 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'Because men are not looking for financial equals / betters in the way women are. Also, please stop using your personal preferences in a conversation about generalities. I can't possibly respond meaningfully to every specific aspect of your life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 10:25 PM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'I am using the most common and widely accepted definition of high value - which is wealth, good character, and good looks. I can't read your mind to understand your personal definition of high value men, which you did not even state. Again, you have no clue what my values are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 10:14 PM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'Sure, but I don't think it's common for very beautiful women, in the west, to settle when they have hundreds of men throwing themselves at them. Like I said - I have never met an 8-10 who didn't have high standards, and I expect there are few that fall outside this common persona. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 10:12 PM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'You have no clue what my values are, since I haven't mentioned them even once. What I do have is the power of observation across a wide variety of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 10:10 PM |
| 0 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'So when you said "sticking by you through rough times" you were only referring to the specific scenario of not making money in college? Standards for women and standards for men are not, and never have been the same, nor should they be. They aren't they same, but they are certainly comparable. Do you feel it's unfair for women to have financial standards if you have physical standards? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 10:04 PM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'Do you think a woman making $100K would prefer a man at her physical level making $100K, or the same man making $1M? The prettiest women are not all gold diggers so they are not all going for the wealthiest men Yes, they are not gold diggers. That is the point of the thread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 10:01 PM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'Maybe I should rephrase - most beautiful women may have family members who say that, but very few are actually settling. For fucks sake, my parents wanted me to work in a factory instead of go into STEM because I could 'work my may up.' You're just describing that some parents give bad outdated advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 09:57 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Are open relationships fair for men? My views on the matter.Girls generally won't touch a man in a relationship. For one, there are a lot of single men to choose from, so why go throught the complications of dating a taken guy? Untrue. I am married and I get a lot of interest from women in open relationships. A lot of men can't handle no strings attached dating + sex and easily catch feelings, so because I know how to navigate it's pretty appealing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 09:56 PM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'Depends on the woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 09:46 PM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'Some, but not many. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 09:45 PM |
| 3 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'The difference is men care mainly about looks as the hoop to jump through, and looks are obvious where wealth is not necessarily. If every meet-up people wore bags over their heads and then took them off halfway through, I'd imagine who got the most attention would change pretty drastically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 08:54 PM |
| 3 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'But you just agreed with that, did you not? You agreed that the most attractive woman will get someone at her level, which are the most desirable men. The most desirable men are those who are most successful, wealthy, etc. You also agreed the the most desirable women prefer men with money than men without. Or do you disagree that those are the most desirable men? And if they are not the most desirable men, then which category is a better representation? Or are you just disagreeing for no reason? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 08:48 PM |
| 2 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'So what do you disagree with? That sounds like exactly what I said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 08:35 PM |
| 2 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'Your original post frames wealth as being a dealbreaker. Wealth is often a dealbreaker. Yes. Meanwhile even top tier men will often scoop up regular looking women (Michael Jordan, Ozzy Osbourne, Doctor Oz, Bill Gates, etc) Is your argument that become some men date regular looking women, most wealthy men follow the same pattern? We are obviously talking in generalities, I couldn't possibly speak for 100% of use cases. By the way, Michael Jordan's wife is a model, and his ex wife was a model as w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 08:32 PM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'How does that contradict what I said? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 08:08 PM |
| 0 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'W/e you say Cathy Newman Please explain how that wasn't a perfect distillation of what you said? Deuces. Exactly. Sounds like standards for thee and not for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 07:52 PM |
| 3 | The "You did this with prior exes but won't do it with me" is not about the acts done or not done. It's about the attitude toward the current man.I wouldn't mind putting things I want on pause for a woman who legitimately felt uncomfortable with them. We all have boundaries and no one is ever going to be a perfect partner. But as soon it turns out you've done the things I want before with someone else, I now have no idea whether I'm being rejected for legitimate reasons, or because I'm not attractive enough. It's smarter for me to hedge the risk and just find someone on who is either open to do what I want, or is uncomfortable with it and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 07:29 PM |
| -1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'Guys value the women who stick with them through the rough times for a reason. As TRP always says: Men are providers. Yet you still want a woman to stay with you if lose your ability to provide longterm? It sounds like wanting to have your cake and eat it too. What if you got with a woman for her beauty, fell in love, and then she let herself get morbidly obese? Do the same rules apply? You would 'stick with her' for 'who she is?' Or, is her beauty part of who she is? In the same way a man's cap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 07:25 PM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'They are so few and far between it renders their existence to be an anomaly. No they aren't. When I look back on the women I've dated that would be considered very attractive by most, none, not a single one of them could be called good natured. I've never dated an attractive woman who wasn't good natured. That to me says a lot about what you value more than whether or not these people exist. Theres something about being very attractive that poisons a girl's mind, probably starting at puberty. Um… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 07:22 PM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'That's exactly what I just said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 07:08 PM |
| 0 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'As a rich man, I have plenty of time for meaningful relationships. So do most of the wealthy men I know. Working 24/7 is a one way ticket to burnout. Success is a result of balance in your life, both professional and personal. I don’t know why you are bringing up men wanting attractive women. We are talking about women’s standards right now. It's a simile. In the same way a man who desires a beautiful woman doesn't only desire her for her looks, a woman who desires a successful provider doesn't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 07:07 PM |
| 2 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'We are obviously talking in generalities. Do you think very attractive, high value women are more or less likely to date up in terms of finances? Do you think that the most attractive and desirable women in the world are more likely to date wealthy men or poor men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 07:05 PM |
| 2 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'Correct, that's the point of the OP. So what exactly do you disagree with? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 06:32 PM |
| 2 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'The lifestyle you provide is part of who you are as a partner. It's no different from wanting a woman who takes care of you, or cooks you breakfast, or puts effort into her appearance or sex. A woman could easily say: "I want a man who loves me for who I am, and won't leave me if I stop having sex with them." Women and men find attraction and love in different places. If you acknowledge that men are providers, then you can't be surprised when she loses attraction because you can no longer provid… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'Yup, I agree. In the same way, women who are desirable to business people and other men with wealth are going to be unlikely to want to return to a 50K salary lifestyle. It's not a reflection of character. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 06:26 PM |
| 2 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'You think women who are attractive and good natured don't exist? What planet are you people living on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 06:24 PM |
| 2 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'Being able to get what you want isn’t a predisposition to wanting something more. Are you saying that if women had a choice to date a broke attractive man and a rich attractive man, there would be no difference in who they choose on average? I'm having a hard time understanding your point. Go to any college and see how many of the hot girls are dating stem nerds. Because they are unattractive nerds. I have no idea what you are trying to say. I also reject the idea that “if she is honed in on you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 06:19 PM |
| 3 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'I know women who are very attractive and make good money who are married to losers. Do you think this is the norm? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 06:15 PM |
| 4 | Women with high standards of financial success in men do not 'only want you for your money'I have never observed an 8-10 woman who was nice and pleasant but also didn't have high standards, unless she was severely emotionally damaged. It's just a math game. If 1000s of men are throwing themselves at her, of course she'll have very high standards. I literally know women who left OLD because, and I quote "I am too quality for those websites." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 06:14 PM |
| 4 | The "You did this with prior exes but won't do it with me" is not about the acts done or not done. It's about the attitude toward the current man.Could be. Or it could be what I said. Best to avoid all women who won't give it up and eliminate the risk entirely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 04:08 PM |
| 0 | The "You did this with prior exes but won't do it with me" is not about the acts done or not done. It's about the attitude toward the current man.You can and you absolutely should expect that. If I was a woman, I would never have a relationship with a man who had 'the best sex of his life with some crazy girl' unless I was confident, I could be better. Those are exactly the type of men who cheat because their sex life is ho hum relative to their previous sexual escapades. We are talking in generalities so of course not always, but even if I deeply love someone and the sex is underwhelming, those relationships tend to fail, and I tend to b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 03:23 PM |
| 1 | The Wall says more about the men applying it, than women in general.I said they were mature enough to have chemistry with a man in his mid 30s. Men select for looks plus chemistry, and the age gap is 7 years on average. I am simply describing an outcome. 35 year olds in the top 10% earning bracket are not selecting 35 year old women much on average. And those that do get selected tend to be good looking beyond their years. For the best chance of an ideal relationship career women with money should be targeting men who make less than them but will likely grow int… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 03:19 PM |
| 1 | The Wall says more about the men applying it, than women in general.All other things being equal, the majority of women would prefer a man who is more successful and wealthy than one who isn't. Good men who are also financially successful are desirable for women of all age brackets, and generally men with options pick the woman with the best combination of chemistry + looks available. Women in their mid to late twenties (the age range I described) are usually at the peak of their looks and are mature enough to have chemistry with a man in their early to late 30s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 08:25 AM |
| 1 | The Wall says more about the men applying it, than women in general.If you have a way of measuring the age gaps of your personal definition of high value men, then by all means provide it. Otherwise looking at top earners is the next best thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 07:40 AM |
| 1 | The Wall says more about the men applying it, than women in general.The average age difference for wealthy men and their wives is 7 years. Usually these men meet their future wives around 23-28. They are not 35 dating 35 year old women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 07:13 AM |
| 1 | The Wall says more about the men applying it, than women in general.Blocked | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 07:02 AM |
| 0 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingPlease stop trying to police how I talk. I'm asking nicely. Anyway, you're just making things up so this is going nowhere. 66% of 40 year old men are homeowners yet in your scenario the 35 year old can't even afford an apartment and is living with 2 roommates. You have zero proof this is anywhere even close to normal. You have zero proof that the average 35 year old can't afford dates. Same as how on the other thread you had zero proof men with money dated women close to their age. You don't won… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 06:59 AM |
| 1 | The Wall says more about the men applying it, than women in general.That's just not true. 40% of all relationships are in 3 year plus age gap relationships. That's 4 out of 10. Yes, it is most common for women to be with men the same age - but that doesn't mean men in their late 20s, early - mid 30s don't have options. You have 35 year old men here telling you they are getting more access to women than they've ever had and you are denying that lived experience despite clearly having no understanding of it. It's bizarre. It reminds of when I would tell people how… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 06:23 AM |
| 3 | The "You did this with prior exes but won't do it with me" is not about the acts done or not done. It's about the attitude toward the current man.That's a totally different situation to what OP is describing. If that was the case the woman would throw in a ton of qualifiers like: "Yes we did anal once but only because he really pressured me into it and it actually hurt and I hated it." The way it normally goes is. "Hey have you ever done X before?" "Yeah I did with a couple ex's." "Whoa that's great, can we do X?" "No, I think I've grown as a person and I'm not into it anymore." I had an ex gf who I was sadistic with and she loved it- lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 06:17 AM |
| -1 | The "You did this with prior exes but won't do it with me" is not about the acts done or not done. It's about the attitude toward the current man.100% true. But a lot of men don't understand that she's not as attracted to him as she was to her ex that he let blow her asshole out. They feel jealous and hurt because she is saying that she 'loves him more' yet someone else could clearly make her react more intensely to sex acts that are disgusting for the current boyfriend. I can tell you this, if you want an actual relationship, a single sex act she doesn’t want to do should be low on your priority list. Completely disagreed. It's not about… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 06:10 AM |
| 1 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingI think you misunderstood when I said debt. When someone has debt they can have a car of their own but they likely won’t have a place of their own Are they living out of a box? Even an apartment or single tenant rental unit is much better than what the 20 year old is doing, on average. What’s more is there are actually more female home owners then men So what? So what’s happening with all the men? 20 year old John was broke but 35 year old john now has a car and is making $57k. John could likely… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 05:58 AM |
| 1 | The Wall says more about the men applying it, than women in general.When did I say anything about old men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 05:51 AM |
| 1 | The Wall says more about the men applying it, than women in general.Well, let's go down the Forbes billionaire's list, shall we? https://www.forbes.com/billionaires/ Jeff Bezos is 6 year older than MacKenzie Bezos. They met when he was 30 and she was 24. Elon Musk is 17 years older than Grimes. They met when she was 30 and he was 48. Bill Gates is 9 year older than Melinda Gates. They met when he was 32 and she was 23. Bernard Arnault is 10 years older than Helene Mercier. They met when he was 41 and she was 31. Mark Zuckerberg and Priscilla Chan are 1 year apar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 05:49 AM |
| 1 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bonding$49,000 is also successful to that same woman who was broke at 20 which means that both men and women become more successful as they age, yes? Definitely. The difference is men do not have financial stability as a dating prerequisite. Women do. In terms of her dating prospects, it is irrelevant how much the woman makes. To the man, it is critically important. Also, you said men have more options as they age in your OP. The average man making $57,000 isn’t going to have as many options as he thin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 05:24 AM |
| 1 | The Wall says more about the men applying it, than women in general.Yes, there are less men available. But even most 35 year old men are dating women younger them, and the most high value 35 year old men are dating hot women in their 20s. The reason it is called the wall, is because the quality of partners a woman has available steeply fall off a cliff, and continues to fall the older they get regardless of the amount of money or success they have. Im sorry, but at 37, my value has not increased over when I was 25. There's nothing inherently valuable about an ol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 05:17 AM |
| 1 | The Wall says more about the men applying it, than women in general.I find it bizarre you spend an entire response coming up with weird excuses for an obvious point, which you yourself acknowledge in the last line. A hot women gets more options than an ugly woman. A man with money gets more options than a broke man. An older man has more money than a younger man. This really is not hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 05:11 AM |
| 2 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingPseudo science baloney. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 05:09 AM |
| 2 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bonding$57,000 is successful compared to that same man who was broke at age 20. We are comparing men to themselves, not men to other men. In my next comment, I'll just be copy and pasting that line, repeatedly until it clicks for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 05:08 AM |
| 5 | The Wall says more about the men applying it, than women in general.I think that's uncharitable take. What most men are saying on TRP is, all things being equal, a man who ages gracefully and increases their resources will have more partners at 20 than 18, more at 25 than 20, and more at 30 than 25. A woman who ages gracefully and increases their resources will have less partners at 20 than 18, less at 25 than 20, and less at 30 than 25. On average, women still have far more potential partners than men, but in general the dating market for women becomes worse as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 09:48 PM |
| 39 | The Wall says more about the men applying it, than women in general.The Wall does not mean a women will run out of potential mates. It means the potential partners available with be less ideal at 35 than when she was 32, 30, 28, 25, 23, or 20. Most women (and humans) hate settling and would rather be alone than to date someone they feel is beneath them. Women find that the dating market at 35 is much worse than at 25, and this causes them dismay, and settling frequently leads to divorce. That's all there is to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 09:45 PM |
| 1 | Women still have an easier time finding dates/relationships (on average) in their 30s+ vs their male counterparts.To say men choose women for LTRs based exclusively on physical appearance is ridiculous. Most men are looking for women they also share common goals and lifestyles with. It's a good thing I didn't say that then. Sure. But I'm simply pointing out that man is only more attractive because of his resources. Yes, women find men with resources more attractive than those without resources. Now you're getting it. For hookups, not a monogamous relationship. Nope. Chad's will date hot women for LTRs almos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 09:32 PM |
| 1 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingNot sure why you're becoming visibly frustrated "you are actually a dumb person" aka angry. So if you don't understand a clear argument, and I think you are dumb because of that, that means I'm mad? I think people who voted for Trump are dumb. I think radical ideologues are dumb. It's what I believe, it has nothing to do with my emotions. You bring up how angry I am in every conversation. Clearly you want to feel like you're getting under my skin. Perhaps it's validating for you? Maybe it makes … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 09:30 PM |
| 1 | Women still have an easier time finding dates/relationships (on average) in their 30s+ vs their male counterparts.Physically more attractive, maybe. Men choose partners primarily on physical attraction. A woman is who is 20 will have many more suitors than one who is 35 exclusively because of her looks. Fullstop. Nah. An overweight, middle-aged guy is not giving women the tingles because he has money. An overweight 20 year old is not giving the women tingles either, and he doesn't even have money. We are comparing people to themselves, not the ideal man or woman. You can't argue that women will retain suito… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 09:09 PM |
| 1 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingNope, I'm not autistic. I'm not sure why you want me to be angry so badly. You've done this in our last conversation too. It's pretty cringe. *shrug* How do you know most 34 year olds weren't fat and ugly at 18? The majority of hot people are hot because they have good habits established from when they were young. Selma Hayek, who you mentioned, was never a fat 18 year old. Are you trying to argue that the majority of hot people used to be fat and ugly? That is a much bolder than claim than what… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 09:05 PM |
| 0 | Women still have an easier time finding dates/relationships (on average) in their 30s+ vs their male counterparts.The same woman at 28 will only be seen as "less attractive" if she lets herself go physically. That's just silly. Even if she doesn't let herself go, she will still be seen as more unattractive than her younger self. The same man at 28 will only been seen as "more attractive" if he starts working out and dressing better. Otherwise, he's just going to essentially be used for his money Nope. A 28 year old man who is mature and financially stable will be seen as more attractive, all else being equa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 08:53 PM |
| 1 | Women still have an easier time finding dates/relationships (on average) in their 30s+ vs their male counterparts.The comment was made about women under 30. I'm correct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 08:48 PM |
| 1 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingI'm not angry at all, I was being serious. There is a lot of autistic people on PPD which can make communication hard sometimes. When I have to repeat the same point 10 times and you still don't get it, I start to suspect there's something else going on. No offense. If you actually read the rest of my comment, instead of having an anger attack, you would see I compared a 30 year old woman to her 18 year old self. You said a woman who was fat and ugly. Most hot 34 year olds were not fat and ugly … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 08:46 PM |
| 1 | Detaching sex from love is the biggest reason high N count women are usually avoided for serious relationships.By nature, I don't think so. Mathematically, yes. Cheating is usually driven by opportunity plus character. If a man has n count, it generally means he has opportunity because he is desirable. Because character varies by the individual, probably evenly (hot men aren't any more moral than ugly men) then it would mean that women's preference for men that have high n counts will be the cohort most likely to cheat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 08:11 PM |
| 3 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingEverybody you grew up with married a man with options? That seems unlikely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingDid you read what I wrote? The 30 year old women I know (in real life) are still getting a lot of attention from men because surprise, non-misogynist men like pretty women Are you autistic? That's not an insult, I ask honestly because it will save me a lot of time in having conversation with you. It's ok if you are, but then I won't judge your intelligence. Whether or not women still get attention at 30 is not relevant. We are comparing women to themselves, not to other women or men. A hot women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 08:04 PM |
| 8 | Women still have an easier time finding dates/relationships (on average) in their 30s+ vs their male counterparts.A man who is broke and 20 is seen as less attractive than the same man at 28 with a stable career and money. The woman who is broke at 20 will be seen as more attractive than the same woman at 28 with a stable career and money. That is the phenomenon TRP calls the wall. It has nothing to do with who is lining up to date you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 07:58 PM |
| 2 | Have you learned anything valuable from this subreddit?It's the internet. People are not going to communicate the same online as they do in real life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 03:32 PM |
| 3 | Have you learned anything valuable from this subreddit?I've learned a lot. There a lot of intellectual masturbators and angry people who just want to argue in bad faith here, but I've had multiple discussions that legitimately changed the way I saw things and helped me flesh out my perspective more. If you aren't getting anything useful here, I really don't know why people stick around. Is it masochism? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingI didn't marry a hoe. What men want doesn't change my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 03:19 PM |
| 2 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingLiterally zero proof that's true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 03:15 PM |
| 1 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingPlease tell me what point she came even close to winning on. She presented literally zero stats, and has no argument at all besides "maybe at some point what you're saying is true won't be true anymore but I have no proof of it." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 03:13 PM |
| 0 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingThe commenter understands the points ten times better than you do. We are comparing people to their past and future selves not others. A woman who is 18 will get more attention from men than she does at 34. Saying it's 'misogynist' is totally unhelpful and hurts women because that's the reality for many who are trying to deal with this issue of balancing career and romance like the person above. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 03:08 PM |
| 1 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingIts the sad truth unfortunately. The number of options will dwindle as you age. In my personal recommendation women should start focusing seriously on finding a marriage partner around 25-26 with the goal to get married 28-30. That gives you a nice buffer zone of 3-4 years to continue to climb the career ladder without being impacted by children which IMO is reasonable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 03:04 PM |
| 1 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingIts not a statement to make women feel anything. Its what I think reflects the truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 02:55 PM |
| 0 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingCorrelation, not causation. I'd bet people who are in relationships with people who are inferior to their previous partners are more likely to cheat too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 04:09 AM |
| 1 | Marriage is still valuable for men, but only if there is a bigger goal than 'happiness in perpetuity'There's nothing special about what you're describing. Any home can be purchased with dual ownership with a contract in place. Who does this? Anyone who jointly owns a home, but aren't married. know of two cases where the women lost her house because her fiancé left her and she was not on the deed She should of been on the deed. You don't need to get married for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 04:07 AM |
| 1 | Marriage is still valuable for men, but only if there is a bigger goal than 'happiness in perpetuity'I've never heard of a cofounder's contract the signing party doesn't have to offer either an initial investment or labor in return. It is technically possible but at that point you are just gifting someone half your company and you would be indeed an idiot to do it. Usually an expectation of labor. An initial investment is much less common for cofounders, but common for investors. But once equity vests it cannot be retroactively returned besides through a lawsuit, and those are rarely successful… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 02:52 AM |
| 1 | Marriage is still valuable for men, but only if there is a bigger goal than 'happiness in perpetuity'She can have all the benefits of marriage without getting married.She could still have equity even without getting married. No, you cannot have equity without a legal contract. That's what equity is. What she gains from legally getting married is your money after the marriage ends. It's not one person's money. That is the entire point. It's your money, as a team. If you are just paying bills, you can walk away at any time and she is left with nothing. That is not equity. Ownership is an incentiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 02:26 AM |
| 1 | Marriage is still valuable for men, but only if there is a bigger goal than 'happiness in perpetuity'You don't need to be married to be a team. Also, very few women are willing to marry a W.I.P But you do need to be married to have an equity stake in the relationship. Same in a company. If the helpful friend is paid a salary versus owning equity they are much more likely to leave for a better deal. They don't need the paper for the fantasy. They can just have a ceremony without legitimizing it on paper. The paper has only one function. I don't disagree. They don't get married planning to divorc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 01:52 AM |
| 1 | Marriage is still valuable for men, but only if there is a bigger goal than 'happiness in perpetuity'OK...why? And how is it different from any other form of property sharing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 01:42 AM |
| 1 | Marriage is still valuable for men, but only if there is a bigger goal than 'happiness in perpetuity'Marriage MAY be valuable for only the top men and thats only because it's unlikely you'll get a high quality woman to commit without getting married I think it's an avenue for men to also become high quality. Two heads are better than one, to put it simply. The delta between a 1 person company and 2 is not linear. But you know the answer don't you? It's so that they can get your money in case something doesn't work out and as you correctly quoted, its very likely it won't work out due to her own… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 01:25 AM |
| 1 | Marriage is still valuable for men, but only if there is a bigger goal than 'happiness in perpetuity'Religion is certainly one thing, though that is becoming less and less true and is almost never true for Christian women (Sex before marriage is pretty common even among Christians) Raising kids doesn't require a marriage and neither does property sharing. Property sharing happens in many other avenues such as business, joint owning rental units, etc. I don't think anyone gets married in order to buy a house together...at least I've never heard that as a reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 01:11 AM |
| 1 | Marriage is still valuable for men, but only if there is a bigger goal than 'happiness in perpetuity'The point is to conduct the analysis and grow the assets until they radically outweigh the liabilities. If there is no conceivable trajectory for that to happen, then don't get married to that person. If that growth seems pretty straightforward - then it's a good option for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 01:10 AM |
| 2 | Marriage is still valuable for men, but only if there is a bigger goal than 'happiness in perpetuity'I don't disagree with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 01:08 AM |
| 1 | Marriage is still valuable for men, but only if there is a bigger goal than 'happiness in perpetuity'That's why it's important to work all that out in advance. It should be relative simple calculus. "In order for us to get to X income, the easiest way will be to do step 1, step 2, step 3, etc." Each job move should be planned, or at the very least analyzed. Are they automatically going to be able to get a job as good as they left? Someone usually sacrifices. Same if someone is going to leave their job for a bit when kids are born. It's not a sacrifice because you are sharing assets. You are onl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 01:06 AM |
| 6 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingStandards for thee, and not for me, eh? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 11:53 PM |
| 5 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingYes I can. His argument is exclusionary, mine isn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 11:41 PM |
| 1 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingA man who is maturing, climbing the career ladder, etc has more options, absolutely but my point is how many men are doing this? The vast majority, going by the stats I've already shared with you. You are no longer adding anything to the debate, so this is my last response here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 11:20 PM |
| 2 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingA larger age gap than 4 years isn't 5 years. Do you know what the word 'larger' means? 5 is larger than 4. Remember, the crux of this argument is that YOU SAID MEN BECOME more successful as they age. Stats are showing us a different story. I gave you earnings stats which showed you this was literally true. I'm done with this conversation now, since you're no longer adding anything valuable to the debate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 11:17 PM |
| 1 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingMost men in the world are not incarcerated or strung out on opioids. When we have conversations like this, we are talking in generalities with some standard assumptions about health irrespective of the country in question. A man who is maturing, climbing the career ladder, etc - has more options than he did when he was broke. This is universally true, in every country in the world. It's as simple as that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 11:13 PM |
| 1 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingIf that's how you want to interpret it, but that's not what I was saying. 'shrug' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 11:09 PM |
| 2 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bonding"Larger" age gaps than 4 years are the large (10+) age gaps, right? Those only account for 10%. A larger age gap than 4 years is 5 years, 6 years, 7 years, 8 years, etc. I don't know why you're going from 4 to 10+. I agree that success is an attractive quality of men but America doesn't have an abdundance of successful men Relative success to themselves. A broke average looking man, is not as attractive as an average looking man with 50K and a stable home life. As I've said again and again - thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 11:08 PM |
| 1 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingI agree with this actually. It's definitely unattractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 10:59 PM |
| 1 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingThat's my comment yes. I'm confused how you think this disputes what I said? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 10:58 PM |
| -1 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingHow is that comment relevant to anything we've talked about? Obviously we aren't talking about incarcerated people or opioid addicts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 10:55 PM |
| 1 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingThat's not what I was saying at all, actually bud. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 10:49 PM |
| 3 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingNot sure what point you are making or how it relates to our conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 10:48 PM |
| 1 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingIt's really not clicking for you huh? If larger age gaps than that exist, than that means that 10% should really be 40-50% but it's not. It's 10. Huh? I was saying age gaps 4 years or larger are common. Which they are. I have no idea what point you are making. Oh, and as women age they become more financially stable, more confident and more mature too... your point? That women find this attractive and important trait for relationships, and men do not care. Aren't adults... supposed to become mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 10:47 PM |
| 1 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingMy post was an attempt to explain that correlation, which you just said you agree with. Then you said it wasn't worthy for discussion. OK bud. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 10:36 PM |
| 2 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingEarnings by age We've already discussed stats on how the vast majority of women prefer men that are older than them. Not sure what else you want. Clearly you're just arguing to argue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 10:35 PM |
| 2 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingYou said "LARGE" age gap relationships are "very common" not age gap relationships are very common and even then that's still 40% combined, leaving the vast majority (60%) so.. No, I said 'larger,' which means 4+ years. Read to comprehend. By any metric 4/10 is very common. Please stop obfuscating. If only 10% of relationships consist of 10+ year age gaps that's 1 in every 10. That's not "very common." Simple math. It's a good thing I never said 10 year+ age gap relationships were common. Also, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 10:29 PM |
| 5 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingBut would he really have as many options of young women when young women still want attractive men and there are men who are both attractive and rich? He would not. We are not talking about men relative to other men, only to themselves. This is my third time saying this to you. Read to comprehend and try again, or don't respond at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 10:19 PM |
| 3 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingThe common age Gap in relationships is 3 years according to the U.S. Census so I'm not sure how "large" age Gap relationships are "very" common. Is 3 years large to you? Age gaps 10 years+ make up around 10% of all relationships, and from 4-9 is around 30%. Together that makes up about 40% of all relationships where the woman is 4+ years younger than the man. I'd say that's pretty common. 3 years isn't large, but it clearly demonstrates women target men who are older than them. What's more is, a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 10:15 PM |
| 2 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingOK, I made a pretty clear logical argument that can stand on its own irrespective of personal experience - but if you want to claim 'personal experience' on a debate sub then do you, I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 10:05 PM |
| 2 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingThose hot finance bros are more attractive at 24 than they were at 18, and they'll very likely be more attractive at 28 than they were at 24 (when they're even richer, more mature, and have more leadership traits). You're comparing men vs. other men, whereas I'm comparing men to their past and future selves. Of course there comes a point when older men start becoming less attractive (balding is a good example) but in general as long as a man takes care of himself and continues climbing the ladde… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 10:01 PM |
| 8 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingThe world is much bigger than people you know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 09:57 PM |
| 3 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingIt has nothing to do with being wow'd by anything. The 18 year old with nothing is less attractive to most women than that same man at age 25 who is more stable and confident. Women date men on average 4 years older than them, and larger age gaps than that are very common. Not sure what crazy FDS roleplay you're trying to engage in here, but you can do it by yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 09:56 PM |
| 3 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingSo now every argument has to have a peer reviewed study to be valid? You are engaging in scientism my friend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 09:53 PM |
| 1 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingWhen did I say anything about all men get access to top women? What I said was that as men age and become mature, they have access to better partners than they did when they have no resources and are more immature. Women are attracted to men who are on average 4 years older than them, so I'm not sure how you could dispute this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 09:51 PM |
| 11 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingMen with options marry women with high body counts all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 09:47 PM |
| 2 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingThat's what we're here to discuss. Make an argument if you disagree with the premise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 09:46 PM |
| 5 | Partner quality is much more important than n count when it comes to pair bondingEven for the average man this is true. If you are more mature, more confident, have your own car, home, a 50K a year job, you are much more attractive to the average woman than the same 18 year old guy pounding beers at a bar going to college on their parents dime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 09:45 PM |
| 1 | Detaching sex from love is the biggest reason high N count women are usually avoided for serious relationships.It's not, it's more about sexual access. A woman can fuck a man closer to her ideal partner the younger she is, whereas men can get better women the older/more stable they get. I think both men and women don't lose the ability to pairbond permanently, but it is hard to pairbond with a physically or emotionally inferior person than someone you've had before. As women get older their choices decrease, so they are dating worse and worse guys and as such have difficulty pairbonding, whereas men are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 04:21 PM |
| 1 | Detaching sex from love is the biggest reason high N count women are usually avoided for serious relationships.Men aren't better, but women still select/prefer high n count men because of their traits whereas men actively reject high n count women. Detaching sex from love is something that oesn't bother women as much, otherwise women can easily preselect for low n counts in partners. This is more of an explanation of than anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 04:17 PM |
| 1 | Detaching sex from love is the biggest reason high N count women are usually avoided for serious relationships.You ask? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 04:13 PM |
| 1 | If a man uses his resources to attract women, does that make him a beta male?Why would I think that? Your poverty game isn’t pulling jack shit besides poverty bitches. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 03:11 PM |
| 3 | There’s nothing wrong with a coffee/walking date as the first dateThen eat it on your own time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 03:10 PM |
| 2 | There’s nothing wrong with a coffee/walking date as the first dateMeeting LTRs at bars or clubs is a morons mission. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 03:10 PM |
| 1 | Do Modern Relationships Need Each Person to Play a Role, and If so, What Role Does Either Gender Fulfill?You don’t me, you don’t my relationship, and you don’t know my wife. Don’t get snarky because you don’t have an answer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 03:08 PM |
| 4 | There’s nothing wrong with a coffee/walking date as the first dateLol can tell you’ve never been to a park | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 03:05 PM |
| 1 | Do Modern Relationships Need Each Person to Play a Role, and If so, What Role Does Either Gender Fulfill?I also want to spend the rest of my life with my wife. But that is completely independent of why you would sign a government contract. As you already said, you do not need a government contract for that. That is what you were doing before getting marriage. Nothing changed for you at all. It's not that we want different things, it's that what you're saying literally makes no sense. You can just admit it was tradition, or societal expectations, or not really well thought out or something and I'd a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 06:37 AM |
| 1 | Do Modern Relationships Need Each Person to Play a Role, and If so, What Role Does Either Gender Fulfill?You don't need to sign a government contract for that that. You could have just said you wanted to spend your lives together. What you're describing is a reason to be in a longterm, very committed relationship, not a reason to get married. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 05:22 AM |
| 1 | Do Modern Relationships Need Each Person to Play a Role, and If so, What Role Does Either Gender Fulfill?Then why did you get married? What's different for you now than when you were dating for ten years, and why did you need a government contract in place? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 05:13 AM |
| 1 | Do Modern Relationships Need Each Person to Play a Role, and If so, What Role Does Either Gender Fulfill?A business is just a collection of people accomplishing an outcome, and contracts determine equity. As I already explained, a contract focused around asset sharing by definition implies growth otherwise it serves no purpose. Saying, "it's not a business' doesn't actually deal with any point. It's just a generic statement tied to nothing. The reason I am intent on it, is because I'm right, and other people are wrong. If everyone had my approach marriage the divorce rates would be far, far lower w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 04:58 AM |
| 1 | Do Modern Relationships Need Each Person to Play a Role, and If so, What Role Does Either Gender Fulfill?I'm not. Marriage is literally a financial contract between two entities. Dating is dating, and it's what I recommend all people with no goals do in perpetuity. I was talking specifically about marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 04:40 AM |
| 1 | Do Modern Relationships Need Each Person to Play a Role, and If so, What Role Does Either Gender Fulfill?No...the point is no one has those fears. That's why the relationship fails. When I used to live in Thailand all the foreigners would ride mopeds without a helmet, because the locals did it. Of course they weren't afraid they would splatter their brains over the sidewalk, because if they were by definition they'd wouldn't take their helmets off. Then they'd splatter their brains on the sidewalk. But I won't belabor the point. I'm right about relationships needing goals, whether you feel content … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 04:32 AM |
| 1 | Do Modern Relationships Need Each Person to Play a Role, and If so, What Role Does Either Gender Fulfill?That's...yes that's the point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 04:26 AM |
| 2 | There’s nothing wrong with a coffee/walking date as the first dateMale virginity is rising because of delayed adulthood and the internet, not because of how they spit game with women. Your cringiness is kind of off the charts, so I'm leaving this convo now. lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 04:25 AM |
| 3 | There’s nothing wrong with a coffee/walking date as the first dateTRP doesn't advocate for relationships, so. Not sure what you're expecting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 04:16 AM |
| 1 | Do Modern Relationships Need Each Person to Play a Role, and If so, What Role Does Either Gender Fulfill?I don't think it's foolish at all. The number 1 reason for divorce is finances, boredom, and lack of passion probably aren't far behind. If you aren't actively growing your wealth to comfortably take on large unforeseen expenditures, planning for potential boredom and lack of passion and mitigating it- that's a really dumb thing. Not targeting you specifically, but no relationship is unique because humans aren't unique. Only different flavors cut from the same pie. Everyone believes their relati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 04:14 AM |
| 3 | There’s nothing wrong with a coffee/walking date as the first dateIt seems we are at an impasse. However, I think TRP would be glad to hear that their ideology is the mainstream now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 04:05 AM |
| 1 | Do Modern Relationships Need Each Person to Play a Role, and If so, What Role Does Either Gender Fulfill?Everyone is content, until they're not. That's my point. Emotions are the worst foundation to build a relationship because they change. Everyone loves being happy and romantic, until they aren't anymore. The intent of marriage was children and lineage (wealth). That's it. Feelings weren't involved. That's what kept people together in turbulent times - shared goals, not romance. Romance is a plus, not the core. I don't require stimulation. I actively seek out rewarding joint goals because that's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 04:03 AM |
| 4 | There’s nothing wrong with a coffee/walking date as the first dateYes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 03:49 AM |
| 1 | Do Modern Relationships Need Each Person to Play a Role, and If so, What Role Does Either Gender Fulfill?That's exactly it - in most relationships there are no goals. It's the equivalent of working the same job for 50 years with the same people, same building, same paycheck, no promotion, no bonus. People get bored, want more purpose, miss the sugar high of new love, have unfulfilled desires and screw up the relationship because of it. Goals are pretty easy to set. Me and my wife are both business people, so for us it's easy. I want a $1B company, and she wants to reduce government bureaucracy in 3… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 03:47 AM |
| 6 | There’s nothing wrong with a coffee/walking date as the first dateIf it's OLD, you should never take a woman out on a date period until you have a minimum of 2 phone calls and/or 1-2 video calls. That's enough to establish: 1.) She's not a catfish 2.) You have some level of chemistry and can carry a conversation 3.) She's not from FDS. Once you've proven that, then you should ask her what type of dates she enjoys. There are plenty of women that really enjoy parks and walking dates, some prefer a nice dinner, others like things that are more exciting. Nothing w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 03:30 AM |
| 5 | There’s nothing wrong with a coffee/walking date as the first dateWhat I can prove however, is the vast majority of men believe in low effort dates and the vast majority of men, also aren't in a relationship. LMFAO The vast majority of men are bluepilled, and the vast majority of men aren't in relationships. You know what that means! Time to take dread game mainstream. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 03:26 AM |
| 6 | There’s nothing wrong with a coffee/walking date as the first datePark date is by far the best and isn't even close. The point is to get to know someone, not treat women to meals that they apparently deserve for just existing. It's the best setting to have a relaxing, natural conversation, it's not a job interview format, and it's easy to leave in case of catfish or bad behavior on both sides. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 03:23 AM |
| 10 | There’s nothing wrong with a coffee/walking date as the first dateThat's silly. Parks aren't in the middle of the woods. Most of the time you're surrounded by people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 03:21 AM |
| 1 | There’s nothing wrong with a coffee/walking date as the first dateYou meet most girls through OLD these days. Literally impossible to tell if she's broke or not unless you're dating a more exclusive app. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 03:19 AM |
| 22 | There’s nothing wrong with a coffee/walking date as the first date100%. Walking and talking is the most intimate. The point of a date is to get to know someone, not laugh at their shitty jokes between mouthfuls of salmon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 03:18 AM |
| 3 | Do Modern Relationships Need Each Person to Play a Role, and If so, What Role Does Either Gender Fulfill?One there are other roles housewives have besides taking care of the children Such as? As long as my future wife prioritizes her roles in the marriage Children are gone. What's her role? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 03:14 AM |
| 0 | Do Modern Relationships Need Each Person to Play a Role, and If so, What Role Does Either Gender Fulfill?Sure, but my point is there's no reason to get married for love. For other things - like building assets and even inheritance for children then certainly - and both of those require longterm planning, goals and growth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 03:08 AM |
| 1 | Gender, sex and social constructsSocial constructs are meant to have utility. The social construct of 'male' and 'female' is tied to the very real biological differences that individuals of both categories fall into, for which they need distinct medical treatment, among other things. Man vs. woman has no distinction, therefore there is no utility, therefore it's an irrelevant set of words that we should stop using as it adds no value to the english lexicon and if anything makes everyone's life more difficult to manage needlessl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 12:27 AM |
| 1 | Gender, sex and social constructsBut the difference in 'male' and 'female' while socially constructed have very clear definitions connected to the biological world with some remarkable utility and 'man' and 'woman' have no distinctions nor any connections to the biological world. A distinction without a difference mean the word has literally 0 utility, so we should stop using it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 12:24 AM |
| 1 | Gender, sex and social constructsWe should just get rid of the word man and woman altogether since its been bastardized so much, it's literally pointless. You're female, I'm male, and you have dysphoria. That's all there is to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 12:22 AM |
| 0 | Do Modern Relationships Need Each Person to Play a Role, and If so, What Role Does Either Gender Fulfill?You don't need marriage for that. Property transfers happen all the time. Lots of ways to handle it without asset sharing. Edit: Now that being said, inheritance is a different story (preservation of wealth across generations) but if the entire point of the marriage is so that you inherit his assets we're back to the original case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 11:59 PM |
| 2 | Do Modern Relationships Need Each Person to Play a Role, and If so, What Role Does Either Gender Fulfill?"Wanting to" Is not a reason. Why did you want to? Because there are real tax and legal benefits to being legally married (we live in the US) Are you saying you wanted to get married for the tax benefits? Which ones specifically? I've never heard anyone say this in my life, and I'd bet it's not true. Usually tax benefits are a nice plus, but never the reason (because it's a bad reason). Because I love calling him my husband, and he loves calling me his wife. You don't need to get married for tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 11:26 PM |
| 0 | Do Modern Relationships Need Each Person to Play a Role, and If so, What Role Does Either Gender Fulfill?I don't disagree with that. If you have no intention of getting married then you can certainly be happy in perpetuity for as long as you like, but in my experience those types of relationships don't tend to last long in the grand scheme of things. Holding on to a person making you happy is like trying to hold onto any fleeting emotion - impossible. But I do wish you luck! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 11:20 PM |
| 1 | Do Modern Relationships Need Each Person to Play a Role, and If so, What Role Does Either Gender Fulfill?There’s absolutely no goal in our marriage, we just make each other happy Then why get married? I’m sorry, but I think it’s so gross, and honestly really sad, to look at relationships as some kind of race to be won, or some sort of goal to achieve for yourself, something to accomplish, rather than just being together because you make each other happy. If that's all it was, then you don't need to sign a contract with the government. Live happily together in perpetuity. You can even hold a wedding… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 11:14 PM |
| 0 | Do Modern Relationships Need Each Person to Play a Role, and If so, What Role Does Either Gender Fulfill?Marriage was never designed for love. It was an institution created to take care of children and the preservation of wealth across generations. It is a financial contract enforced by the government. The purpose of the financial contract is to ensure equitable split of assets. The only reason it makes sense to split assets equally, is if each party is contributing roughly equal value to the generation of those assets, particularly if those assets grow significantly over time. So if your assets ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 11:12 PM |
| 0 | Do Modern Relationships Need Each Person to Play a Role, and If so, What Role Does Either Gender Fulfill?No, I'm definitely making an argument for it. Personality is important in the same way compatability between co-founders is important - you're going to be working with this person day in and day out for years. But the point of the relationship isn't just to exist in perpetuity, it's to accomplish something, to increase your lot in life, raise successful children, run a business, buy that big house, etc. If there's a goal in mind (and there should be, otherwise what's the point of getting married… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 10:49 PM |
| 1 | Do Modern Relationships Need Each Person to Play a Role, and If so, What Role Does Either Gender Fulfill?Initiating sex is not a role. That's just your personality. Paying for dates, maybe if you stretch it? A role, in the way we are talking about it, is a predefined set of responsibilities. An example from business: The role of a software engineer is to develop code. That role has a clear function, and a purpose within the broader team that leads to an outcome. There is a clearly defined relationship between the role of the software engineer, and the designer, and the marketer, and all these roles… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 10:04 PM |
| 3 | Do Modern Relationships Need Each Person to Play a Role, and If so, What Role Does Either Gender Fulfill?OK, what happens when the children are in school, you want your wife staying home all day twiddling her thumbs? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 08:15 PM |
| 6 | Do Modern Relationships Need Each Person to Play a Role, and If so, What Role Does Either Gender Fulfill?You're just describing personality traits, not roles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 08:14 PM |
| 2 | Do Modern Relationships Need Each Person to Play a Role, and If so, What Role Does Either Gender Fulfill?Yes, each person plays a role, but the point of having a role-based relationship is to employ skills needed to accomplish a task. The role depends on the joint goals of the couple and their skillsets. If my wife and I are both business minded, but I am moreso, then I will take a leading role in that arena while she has a supporting role. The inverse would obviously also be true. The problem is most couples don't actually have goals - they just exist from one day to the next and eventually grow t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 08:13 PM |
| 1 | Why do women still put in so much more effort in relationships instead of staying single?That's not at all what she's saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 04:58 PM |
| 1 | Why do women still put in so much more effort in relationships instead of staying single?People have limited time. A man who is an overachiever at work or business is not going to have the same amount of time or energy to equally invest in the home. An average man, with a similar career as you will, probably will. Hence, it's OK to settle for average. This shouldn't be a hard concept to understand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 04:57 PM |
| 1 | If a man uses his resources to attract women, does that make him a beta male?Bingo. This is pure cope from poverty level redpillers who think their 'dread game' can score them a woman that is somehow hot, madly in love with them, and also not a total psychopath. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 04:52 PM |
| 5 | Why do women still put in so much more effort in relationships instead of staying single?Dude, do whatever you want. If you want average then go for it. Enjoy the equality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/21 07:15 PM |
| 4 | Why do women still put in so much more effort in relationships instead of staying single?You'll be working more, yes. Not sure why you're so incredulous. Getting better things in life comes with more effort, not less. If you want average then that's cool too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/21 07:09 PM |
| 3 | Why do women still put in so much more effort in relationships instead of staying single?Do what you want, I don't care. Just saying your initial statement isn't necessarily the case, and should be the expectation as you move up in level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/21 06:59 PM |
| 7 | Why do women still put in so much more effort in relationships instead of staying single?Adding more work doesn't mean they're not improving your life. Working a job that pays me 2x more will probably be more work than the old job, but my quality of life goes up substantially. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/21 06:33 PM |
| 1 | Meeting Women Outside Just Isn't Viable AnymoreWow, that was such a dishonest move. You edited your original comment after I posted mine to make it look like I was just writing off your statement about having money. Yeah, you definitely don't have wealth. What a weasel thing to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/21 03:41 PM |
| 1 | TRP advocates for working on your fitness, money and status, but basically preaches against taking the women who appreciate those "qualities" seriously.Literally every person who starts a business with cofounder signs a contract like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/21 03:14 PM |
| 0 | Monogamy: by-product or goal? (Also, settling for someone)Are you asking yourself that? I'm obviously correct. lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/21 03:01 PM |
| 1 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotAnd the lifestyle a HVM can provide is far more important than how much money he has - but money is obviously the best proxy for this, as carrer / education is the best proxy for being clever, intellectually stimulating, goal driven, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 11:25 PM |
| 1 | Do 'average' Women just bring more to the table today than 'average' Men?I've been doing that all by myself for 10+ years So a woman who does those things for you has no value to you? RP all swear up and down they want women who do exactly those things. Again I'm not saying men "don't have any standards" they're just much lower in contrast to what women want, which is why these women think they bring more to the table I just don't believe that's true. I think RP are describing these things in some weird abstract vacuum as if they don't matter, and they actually do. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 11:23 PM |
| 0 | Do 'average' Women just bring more to the table today than 'average' Men?What do you mean worse case, that's the average salary and the average cost to raise a child. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 11:01 PM |
| 1 | Do 'average' Women just bring more to the table today than 'average' Men?Yeah no that's LARPing bullshit. If you want kids and a SAHM in the modern age you need to be making high value man money, and 90% of men are not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 11:01 PM |
| 1 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotOnly morons do that. Enjoy your ticket on the lose-half-my-shit express. Silicon Valley 'nerds' as you put it are intelligent, of course they aren't dating an IG thot who wants to rob them blind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 10:59 PM |
| 2 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotI was responding to comments all da who said exactly that. Think whatever you want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 10:58 PM |
| 1 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotIf you can understand why it would be humiliating to wear flip flops and a T-shirt to a board meeting, you can understand why it would be humiliating to date a woman who is working at Subway. It has nothing to do with me thinking little of them. Stop making assumptions about things I never said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 10:57 PM |
| 1 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotObviously I was talking about serious dating and LTRs. That is way different than a FWB. Not sure how you think that's a gotcha. The idea is their looks is the main thing. No one cares about their money because men do not benefit from it. For goodness sake man, there are studies on these things. Wrong. A woman who has enough of her own money means she's probably not after yours. Some broke IG thot on the other hand? That's an obvious one. Second, their looks is absolutely not the main thing. I'd… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 10:53 PM |
| 1 | Alternative to the Key/lock analogy.Yes, they are obvious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 10:51 PM |
| 1 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotIts not, rarity and utility in skillset is what determines how much you earn. If competence and drive where determining factors I could go out into a field, make mud pies all day and magically I would become a millionaire if I was dedicated and competent enough at making them Wow, that's silly. Obviously competence and drive are paired with other attributes, like intellect and being goal oriented. No one who is goal oriented is going to sit around making mud pies - they are going to figure out w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 08:56 PM |
| 31 | Do 'average' Women just bring more to the table today than 'average' Men?TRP folks always say that 'men don't care about these things' but I just don't see that in reality. Men don't care about money? They're cool going into debt supporting two kids and a SAHM on a $40K a year salary? Men don't care about coming home to a clean house and getting a good meal? Men don't care about not getting cheated on, or being a good mother, or having some intellect? Literally all they care about is be hot and not a cunt to them? I've never actually seen this play out and it definit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 08:44 PM |
| 3 | Do 'average' Women just bring more to the table today than 'average' Men?Most modern men care about money only when thinking about getting married. Isn't that the point OP is making? He isn't talking about hookups. TRP advocates no marriage. Whatever, LTR then. TRP doesn't advocate not having children and failing to create a legacy right? I'm sure they advocate two parent homes right? Then my point still stands. Sure, men care about meals or a nice house, but they can do those things themselves and don't need women to provide those things for him. Anyone can do anyth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 08:36 PM |
| 2 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotThe point is not that HVM only care about looks lol. Look at this thread and see how many people are saying literally exactly that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 08:28 PM |
| 1 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotYes, you're talking about 20 year olds who are dating casually - I'm talking about 30+ who are marrying. graduated college almost 7 years ago when I was 20 and last year was my first year making 6 figures Dude, you've only been making 6 figures for a year. It's great, but you're just not there yet. I find this hard to believe Believe whatever you want, but as soon as you stop doubting my honesty the debate is over. What are you explaining other than the few men you personally know that are high … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 08:26 PM |
| 6 | Do 'average' Women just bring more to the table today than 'average' Men?The idea modern men don't care about money is ridiculous. How is a guy making 40K going to afford a house, two kids, and a wife in a reasonably good suburb with decent schools? The average cost of 1 kid is $13K per year X 2 is $26K, plus a reasonable $1000 mortgage is $12K and we're already at $38K not accounting for taxes or car payments or insurance or anything else. I usually hear people say that HVM don't care about money, but the average family man totally does. I also think it's kind of cr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 07:43 PM |
| 3 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotYikes. Kind of a bitter take. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 07:30 PM |
| 2 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotNone. But that isn't the point TRP are making in my opinion. The correct point is: "Looks are important to HVM, but because they have their pick of all women, they can select far more attributes than that." What usually happens is the McDonald's line is used to imply that men literally couldn't care one way or the other what their partner does, so long as their hot. And that is false. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 07:29 PM |
| 1 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotYou're talking about old money, and I'm talking about how the world today. Millionaire's are not marrying teachers in droves, maybe 20 years ago. You have literally no experience in this. You're a student who is looking at older wealthy men's wives. I am an investor who speak with hundreds of CEOs raising capital today. You need to understand where the gaps in your knowledge are, and realize a census is not going to capture what I am explaining. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 07:26 PM |
| 1 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotI don't think I'm trolling at all. I only say nasty things to people who make really dumb inferences about my life, like you. Then it's less about interesting conversation and more entertainment to see how much dumb shit you'll say. You haven't let me down so far. Feel free to keep going. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 07:14 PM |
| 0 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotYep, exactly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 07:12 PM |
| 2 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotHaha I'm just describing what you are literally doing and it's triggering you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 07:00 PM |
| 1 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotOK... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 06:59 PM |
| 2 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotYou redpillers really love to try infer things about my personal life instead of engage with the ideas presented. Maybe an intelligence gap? Not sure. Here's reality. When CEOs marry their secretary, an employee, etc, those girls aren't any 'better' than these fast food workers or baristas that you have been shitting on. Yes they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 06:46 PM |
| 1 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotThe best CEOs collect information to help make informed decisions to help them accomplish the goal they want to accomplish. They're not asking the team members to figure out what direction the company is headed. That is exactly what they are doing. You legitimately do not know what the fuck you are talking about. Can't argue with someone who is ignorant convinced they are right. See ya | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 06:45 PM |
| 2 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotYou clearly do care, since you're trying desperately to read into it instead of engage with ideas. Even here you're roleplaying why I made the thread. It's just make believe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 06:43 PM |
| 1 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotDara Khosrowshahi? He married an actress. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 06:42 PM |
| 1 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotBut this is for accomplishing HER long term plans and commitment to her goals. I want to know about her commitment to MY vision and goals. I'll lead, she just has to follow. You'd be a horrible CEO. The best CEOs are ones that collect information from their leadership team and make informed choices based on their partners expertise. Being a leader is the exact opposite of being some tyrant who's making every choice. Your wife, like a cofounder, is a partner - and the value of a good partnership … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 06:26 PM |
| 3 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotLOOL I love it, no you're right my wife is a gold digging whore. What else, give me more. If you honestly think people just telling you things you don't like to hear is 'LARPing' then you've got some big problems in your life with interpersonal communication. Buddy, you don't know shit about me. You're on the level of a rat in my world. Why would I ever to listen to what a rat has to say? This is just entertainment and boredom since I'm currently stuck in quarantine after a plane trip. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 06:15 PM |
| 1 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotDo you understand that a CEO is anyone who runs a business (that's what they would mark on the census) and range is extremely variable? Millionaire CEOs are not marrying school teachers, I've encountered it maybe once or twice. EAs are much more common, but again they are normally vetted and well educated. Men with money don't give a single fuck about a woman's career and drive. Her intelligence is what they care about. A.) Yes they do B.) Career and education is a great proxy for intelligence. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 06:13 PM |
| 3 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotLARPing is live action roleplaying. You are inventing a world where all the things you are saying about me are true, regardless of the facts, and then putting me in that world like some wacky Dungeon Master. Obviously I'm not using it in the literal context, I just think it's really funny and goofy. Google 'Wendi Deng'. That's how people perceive your relationship. LOOOL I can assure you, no one with any status thinks fucking Wendi Deng is a mail order bride or a poor Asian waiting to be rescued… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 06:02 PM |
| 2 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotHow do career drive and career goals reflect the ability to work with me in a relationship? Like what skills required to be successful in your career makes you a better mother to my children? Longterm planning, longterm thinking, commitment to a goal and vision, ability to take orders/follow instructions, ability to execute, dedication, great communication skills, honesty, frankness, ability to operate independently without supervision, intelligence...should I keep going? If you don't see how th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 05:51 PM |
| 3 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotEvery word out of your mouth is roleplaying, it's honestly amazing. Please tell me more about how other people perceive my relationship. Would love to find out where this LARP is going next. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 05:48 PM |
| 1 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotI don't know man, ask TRP not me. They're the ones who say this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 05:31 PM |
| 3 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotBecause no one would think that? She's a fluent english speaker with multiple degrees, owns her own business, and comes from a good family. I'm a pretty well known guy in my field, physically fit, and wealthy. Why would they assume she's a poor asian girl and I'm a sex tourist, it doesn't make sense lol Now if you saw an old fat white guy with an ugly asian girl who can barely speak English than yeah the optics on that would look pretty bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 05:28 PM |
| 3 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotLOL he's back at it again with the LARPing. I love it. But wait I thought I was single? So now everyone sees me as a sex tourist with a poor asian girl. What else do they think? hahaha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 05:15 PM |
| 2 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotYou were on a roll with your LARPing though, I want to see where your roleplay goes. What do I do every day? Craft a narrative for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 05:14 PM |
| 1 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotNo they aren't, you can separate them and most people do. Yes they are. How much one earns is not a marker for work ethic or competence It absolutely can be. Sorry to shatter the delusion, but you're not getting/retaining a job at a top VC firm if you're not competent and hard working. Same with running a successful business, or becoming a surgeon. And regardless I don't believe I ever said how much someone earns indicates what you mentioned at all. its a marker for how useful your skills are to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 05:13 PM |
| -1 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotMost men of high value who make boatloads of money don't want to share a wife with her career Just not true. HVM are very intelligent. If a woman is a SAHM it's usually for a good reason, not because they 'don't want to share their wives with their career.' Plenty of HVM have working wives even though they could easily afford for them to stay home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 05:08 PM |
| 3 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotHahaha OK I love it. I'm single and have no status. Keep going, what else? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 05:05 PM |
| 0 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotWrong. They don't date the McDonalds worker because she will almost certainly be a gold digger, she probably wont know how to act around your friends and family so their so social stigma That's what I said. Another issue with this is you are taking a hyperbolic phrase literally Look at this thread. A huge portion of men DO take it literally, and it's usually meant literally. Don't blame me for clarifying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 05:04 PM |
| 3 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotLOL this is what I mean by LARPing. You need to convince yourself I'm unsuccessful just to preserve your delusions. Please continue on. I'm beta and poor too right? What else? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 05:02 PM |
| 1 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotAbsolutely true. Again being driven and goal oriented doesn’t mean that Somone will make a good partner or mother Neither does being hot, yet I bet you select for that criteria. You're being so thick I'm actually starting to think you're lying about being HVM. Again no where did you say those are the only qualities but what we are talking about is what is the priority to which you responded a women who is goal oriented in driven and also how do you know that? I never stated my list of criteria. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 05:01 PM |
| 0 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotBrainwashed TRPer alert. I don't force my wife to do anything you weirdo. We're a team. We decide on how our time is going to be most effectively spent to accomplish an outcome. If that means working, then she'll work. When I was doing my startup my wife continued running her business at part time to make sure we had stable income, then spent the rest of the time helping me on the finance and operations side since I didn't have experience there. It was a really effective form of collaboration. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 04:55 PM |
| 2 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotbut that’s not the priority in a long term relationship or marriage. Absolutely false. You are asking someone to sign up for a lifelong commitment and put in a huge amount of work towards an uncertain future. If you are not prioritizing drive and goal-oriented people, you're setting yourself up for failure. There plenty of women who are goal oriented and driven but that doesn’t mean they make good long term partner or even a mother. Nowhere did I say these are the only qualities you select for. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 04:47 PM |
| 3 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotOK bud, enjoy your LARPing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 04:36 PM |
| 2 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotBeing viewed highly in your community has a real impact on your life, and the way you carry yourself and who you associate with is a reflection of that to others. I have a wife that is native to South East Asia with wealthy parents, and being seen as a respectable person in those circles can be the difference in getting or losing a business deal. I get invited out with CEOs all the time, and having a partner that can hold her own, is respectable and presentable, educated, etc has quite literally… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 04:35 PM |
| 2 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotI do post on other subs. I just enjoy debating. Do you really think FDS would be posting on r/conservative and r/capitalism? lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 04:26 PM |
| 0 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotAll wealthy people personally know George Clooney? That cannot be what you're saying, because it's moronic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 04:24 PM |
| 1 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotKeep LARPing about being high value if you want, I won't try to rescue you from your delusions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 04:13 PM |
| 1 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotI'm a man. Did you even read the post? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 04:11 PM |
| 4 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotIf you think reputation doesn't matter to high value individuals, I've got some heartbreaking news for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 04:02 PM |
| 2 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotDing ding ding, you got it. Every HVM (at least the ones with intelligence, I'm learning from this thread) understand that shared assets is essentially splitting 'life equity' 50/50. You don't take that deal unless you're getting something incredibly valuable out of it, and while sex might be a requirement of any relationship it's in no way shape or form worth giving half your assets for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 04:01 PM |
| 1 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotSounds like you grew up with money. Nope. Any other wrong assumptions you want to get out there? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 03:56 PM |
| 5 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotClearly his life has been running on daddy's money up until this point. He actually doesn't disagree with me at all, he just didn't understand the original post. Based on his comments elsewhere he's also very probably lying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 03:54 PM |
| 2 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotThat's the EXACT opposite of reality. In my experience, it's the women with no money who are hot and broke that have no appreciation of what HVM are bringing. They add literally no value besides their looks and get bored. All they know is 'sexy time goes in money comes out brrrr.' I knew an older man who worked in the real estate that basically LTRd an IG model, and she later admitted she did nothing all day and then literally slept with the pool boy - like the old porn trope. Hilarious. These a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 03:48 PM |
| 2 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotYou guys love LARPing, it's like your favorite pastime. Please continue on with your fantasy construction of me as to not disturb your delusions of grandeur. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 03:43 PM |
| 5 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotNo shot in hell. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 03:38 PM |
| 1 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotIt's true for most men, because most men are morons and are on a one way track to divorce by prioritizing looks and other ethereal things over the clearest indicators someone is driven, goal oriented, and doesn't need your money to be with you. HVM have much tighter selection criteria. Your fiancee` is literally the person I describe, and it is not by sheer coincidence that you chose her to marry. People who are doing 7 figures per year are not selecting baristas and waiters because they are hot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 03:35 PM |
| 1 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotGND now means just means natural? Either the definition has changed a lot from when I was in my 20s or you're living in whackville. Probably both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 03:30 PM |
| 0 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotBefore we met got married my wife was an entrepreneur. She ran a marketplace for events in South East Asia and was making ~$25K+ per month from that. She also had an MBA, and had graduated from an Ivy League equivalent in SEA. Her parents with wealthy and owned businesses in the Middle East. Just the above, not accounting for personality, was extremely attractive to me. This was someone who understood what it took to build a business from scratch (something I was working on at the time and neede… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 02:52 PM |
| 3 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotI know 100s of CEOs. I'm an LP in several venture capital firms, an angel investor, and an advisor to startups through Series B companies. A non-trivial number of the companies I've advised have been acquired or exited giving their CEOs 8+ figures in networth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 02:35 PM |
| 1 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotAnd money is just a proxy for lifestyle / stability. The reality is these proxies are the tools we use to identify common traits, so you cannot separate them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 02:33 PM |
| -1 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotI would have sex with them both and be single. I'm not going to risk my money and reputation for women like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 02:30 PM |
| 1 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotI'm not triggered at all, you are just using the wrong terms to define women. A super model is not a 'girl next door.' If you like porn star women, then good for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 02:29 PM |
| 2 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotTell that to Gates and Bezos, at that wealth range divorce is guaranteed, but they were new money so the spouse did contribute. It literally is not. You are clueless. Yup buddy, you know better than my cock and balls as to what I find attractive JFC, you can keep your girl next door, I don't fault people attracted to that, different strokes for different folks. You're clueless because you keep calling literal super models 'girls next door.' I am HVM enough to not care about belonging to the HVM … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 08:06 AM |
| 1 | Alternative to the Key/lock analogy.On reddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 08:01 AM |
| 1 | Alternative to the Key/lock analogy.No, my point is people on reddit can say whatever the fuck they want. Again, no women I've encountered cares about a man's body count, nor do they proactively seek out virgins or prefer them in some way. That's my experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 07:49 AM |
| 7 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotYes, I do not know Matt fucking Damon, do you? I was obviously talking about my personal experience, not scouring the internet to find one-off examples of this obscure pairing that someone else said happened pretty frequently. Now you’re moving the goalposts to just saying it’s not the norm. Well in my experience it is How am I moving the goalpost, when the commenter I was responding to literally said this was pretty frequent, and then you did too? Who are all the HVM dating baristas you know. W… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 07:35 AM |
| 1 | Meeting Women Outside Just Isn't Viable AnymoreCool story bruh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 07:31 AM |
| 5 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotPlease tell me about all those 10/10 McDonalds workers that end up wifed up by rich men and not end up being sugar babies or single mothers. If you think this is common, you're delusional. This shit is absurd. Highly attractive, low status women are scooped up every day by HVMs. For sex? No shit. For LTR/marriage? Not a chance. Maybe desparate losers with money who I wouldn't classify as HVM. Yes, 7 figure earning men have access to the pick of the litter, which includes high status women who ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 07:30 AM |
| 6 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotDo you think Matt Damon marrying a bartender is even remotely close to the norm? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 07:19 AM |
| 1 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotThis is so ridiculous because it ignores the elephant in the room Marriage -> Divorce -> Lose half your wealth. Where did I ignore it? I think marriage is great. Only people without common sense think it's a bad thing. You aren't 'losing half your shit.' Marriage is a contract with a cofounder - you're splitting the equity of all future profits by 50%. A good cofounder earns that 50% and can prove in advance they deserve it. A bad one will leave early and fuck your company up. The reason why mos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 07:17 AM |
| 1 | Alternative to the Key/lock analogy.Reddit is not real life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 07:06 AM |
| 8 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotThe fact is that in the USA, an attractive woman has a much much much higher chance of marrying above her financial and educational level than an attractive man. Period. Full stop. That’s true in this country and I feel like this thread is trying to bypass this which is silly and avoidant of reality Of course that's true, but the idea only looks matter is retarded. The vast majority of men making 750K are not marrying / LTRing middle school teachers or even considering it. If you’ve worked in co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 07:03 AM |
| 2 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotPlease point to what I'm 'making up.' Education was just one component of several I mentioned. They absolutely do date women who are similar status to them, that make decent to great money independently and that have good careers. They are almost never dating 10/10 from McDonald's. Which is what I said the first time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 06:52 AM |
| 7 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotThis is exactly the point. At some level looks become diminishing returns on an investment. An 8 / 9 / 10 is not going to be that fundamentally different after 3, 4, 5, 6 years. Every man has some minimum threshold of attractiveness to pass GO (same way beautiful women have a minimum threshold of wealth/success), but once that threshold is reached there is a laundry list of other requirements that are also important. No wealthy man is going to choose the super model bimbo who works at Starbucks … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 06:49 AM |
| 3 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotI'm not sure you have any comprehension at the difference in level between a millionaire and a billionaire. A million seconds is 11 days. A billion seconds is 32 years. *insert Gus Fring - We are not the same meme\* | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 06:38 AM |
| 9 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotHVM dont even care about having LTRs. Completely untrue. Now I'm wondering if you're lying. So no, NO LTR is gonna be a nightmare for a HVM. Almost all millionaire's are married. You are pretty lost here in how big is the bargain power of a HVM and if you dont understand that you wont ever get it. You are definitely LARPing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 06:35 AM |
| 0 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotI was comparing CEOs, ball players, and actors. Do you think I was talking about the CEO of Jack's Deli from in the suburbs of Indianapolis? The point I was making, which you so obviously missed, was that men with the most choice of hot women often times end up picking attractive women in their same strata - but certainly not 10s with shitty jobs - which they clearly have access to. You need to relax and stop making assumptions about what I said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 06:23 AM |
| 7 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotWell, sure obviously if there were no hot women left on earth then a hot barista would be the next best choice, but that's not the world we live in and it isn't how most HVM make choices in who to LTR. Looks-physical attraction is whats more important for men. Physical attraction is the 'you must be this tall to ride' but if that's all you focus on on your LTRs are going to be a nightmare. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 06:17 AM |
| 5 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotPlease. If you think a billionaire isn't the highlight of every club / party they walk into you're kidding yourself. That's a different level of wealth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 06:05 AM |
| 2 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotThat's old enough you should know better. Like I mentioned in my edit, hopefully this is mainly for short term dating/sex and not LTR / marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 06:02 AM |
| 5 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotHowever, HVM have so many options that it is easy enough to make sure they get a woman of sufficient hotness while also getting these more peripheral requirements checked off. This is correct. But imagine if no smart, educated, intelligent or classy women had an appearance greater than a 7. Rich guys would be at McD's drive throughs all day long. Of course. Being attractive is the minimum entry requirements. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 05:56 AM |
| 5 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotHow old are you? If you're just meeting girls to smash or hang out with a few weeks then sure that's normal. But almost no grown HVM I know would take your approach at a serious relationship/ marriage. It's just not smart. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 05:55 AM |
| 8 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotYes. Do you not think actors / ball players / CEOs are not inundated by 10s with shitty jobs everywhere they go? Yet for some reason they are all exclusively dating people from elite educational background and great careers. Why do you think that is? Keep being in denial all you want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 05:50 AM |
| 14 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotYou know plenty of HVM who are dating Starbucks baristas? What industry do they work in and how much money do they make? This reeks of a lie. Nobody’s gonna say shit about her job if she looks like Margot Robbie or Emily Ratjkowski. I don't know who either of those people are. Only idiots asking to get divorced pursue women based purely on their looks. Her pedigree and background is way more important for a sustainable LTR. There are plenty of awesome, attractive, well educated, financially stab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 05:43 AM |
| 7 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotAre you a HVM? Do you know any? Where are you getting this information from about what these men would do? I'm telling you for personal experience (lots of it) that what you're saying is not true, at least not for the vast majority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 05:37 AM |
| 14 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotI don't know any successful men dating Starbucks baristas, no idea where you pulled that example from. I've never even heard of this as something being remotely common. A man with balls wouldn’t give a flying fuck what their snooty sister or judgmental mother thought. Don't cut yourself on all that edge Morpheus. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 05:35 AM |
| 1 | Meeting Women Outside Just Isn't Viable AnymoreTalking to poor people about dating as a wealthy person is like capitalists explaining entrepreneurship to a socialist. You have no frame of reference for how it works so you make all sorts of ridiculous statements. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 05:24 AM |
| 1 | Meeting Women Outside Just Isn't Viable AnymoreThe women I met outside of luxury dating sites didn't know I was wealthy. I also wasn't a millionaire at the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 04:48 AM |
| 1 | Meeting Women Outside Just Isn't Viable AnymoreAround 2013 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 04:47 AM |
| 1 | Meeting Women Outside Just Isn't Viable AnymoreI don't get it, are you saying those two things are similar? My wife had as much money as I did when we met... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 04:45 AM |
| 1 | Meeting Women Outside Just Isn't Viable AnymoreOf course she loves me as a person. Do you think beautiful high class women don't want to be in loving relationships? Being a successful man with money is a basic requirement to date extraordinarily attractive women, in the same way that beauty is a basic requirement to date a man of my stature. Maybe if you were talking about thots you'd have a point, but my wife was an independently wealthy entrepreneur and came from a rich family. Trust me, she does not need my money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 04:44 AM |
| 1 | Meeting Women Outside Just Isn't Viable AnymoreOn one website sure, but not all of them. Also, having a phone call is jumping through hoops? Seriously? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 04:33 AM |
| 1 | Meeting Women Outside Just Isn't Viable Anymoreif you're talking about a scatterplot, then 50% of volume is about attractiveness in real life, whereas online you're dealing with pictures. so you can't tell me that's not volume. Dude, how are you not getting this. 50% of a scatterplot is meaningless. you can talk and find out if you have something in common. there is so much information you have in real life. even smell That's called getting to know them, which is what I said. if you are in a museum, for example, that is information. how some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/21 01:41 AM |
| 1 | Meeting Women Outside Just Isn't Viable AnymoreFull of gold diggers | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/21 01:20 AM |
| 0 | Meeting Women Outside Just Isn't Viable AnymoreNo. It's probably too stupid for me to understand. Can you explain how anything I said pertains specifically to the website I met my wife on? I've used this same strategy many places with success. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/21 01:20 AM |
| 0 | Meeting Women Outside Just Isn't Viable AnymoreI do the exact same thing on other apps too - I even mentioned that elsewhere in the comments. There was basically no gated apps besides MM when I was doing this but there are many now. You RP types are just fucking brainless bro. Waste of my time trying to inform you morons of anything. Carry on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/21 01:19 AM |
| -2 | Meeting Women Outside Just Isn't Viable AnymoreIf that's what you took away from all that, you are a moron of the highest order. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/21 01:08 AM |
| 1 | Meeting Women Outside Just Isn't Viable AnymoreNo it isn't. Volume means getting to know someone, not scanning a room. you can know where that dot is on the scatterplot very quickly You are not a mind reader. You do not know jack shit. All you can do is tell if they are hot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/21 01:02 AM |
| 1 | Meeting Women Outside Just Isn't Viable AnymoreHuh? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/21 12:54 AM |
| 1 | Meeting Women Outside Just Isn't Viable AnymoreApproaches in the real world are fine, but the goal is always volume. You can do both if you want - it's not an and/or. But the problem with non-OLD is that they usually happen too infrequently and a partner who more than likely falls right in the middle of the bell curve is LTRd / wifed because of how great they are perceived to be relative to bad matches, not good matches. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/21 12:20 AM |
| 3 | Meeting Women Outside Just Isn't Viable AnymoreNope, it's actually much, much better. Every encounter has a probability of success, and those probabilities fall on a normal distribution. Whether you miss people you should have met or not is irrelevant when the focus is volume, and quality volume - which you achieve through careful vetting in advance. You obviously won't click with everyone, but that's not the point: You only need to really click with one person. The likelihood that I meet a woman who is much better for me using this method i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 11:50 PM |
| 3 | Meeting Women Outside Just Isn't Viable AnymoreI don't take women out on dates most times. Phone call and Facetime is the bare minimum to even meet. It boggles my mind people are still going into dates blind when there is literally no reason to. why? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 11:02 PM |
| 4 | Meeting Women Outside Just Isn't Viable AnymoreThere's a lot of gated apps these days with fewer restrictions, that was almost 10 years ago. My relationship is non monogamous and I still use them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 10:59 PM |
| 3 | Meeting Women Outside Just Isn't Viable AnymoreWe met on MillionaireMatch, when it was much smaller than what it is today, but there's a lot of similar gated apps out there like it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 10:08 PM |
| 1 | Monogamy: by-product or goal? (Also, settling for someone)I mean..it's literally a debate sub. What were you expecting? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 09:32 PM |
| 25 | Meeting Women Outside Just Isn't Viable AnymoreOLD is by far the best place to consistently meet women who are viable longterm partners. It isn't even close really. The goal in modern dating is volume - and from that volume you'll probably find a few really top notch people. There are a few rules you have to abide by: Avoid apps like Tinder like the plague. These have a reputation as hook up apps and no self respecting woman is going to spend much time there. Find apps where you can sort people by new: The reason the disparity between men an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 09:16 PM |
| 1 | Alternative to the Key/lock analogy.Right so make an assumption even though that guy might actually want to be in a relationship. ....yes. Are you trolling me? Is this a real conversation? But someone makes an assumption about an ugly guy then it’s bad? Why would that be bad? Fuckboy isn’t a look. I think we’re showing our age here. If you can't identify if someone if a fuckboy, you're an emotionally stunted person. Men can do this with our eyes closed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 08:50 PM |
| 1 | Alternative to the Key/lock analogy.You must be joking. You really think women don't know the hot guy they met on Tinder with 3 shirtless picks isn't a fuckboy? Jesus christ, it sounds like you think women are even stupider than I do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 08:28 PM |
| 1 | Alternative to the Key/lock analogy.No women don’t or else women wouldn’t complain about them Yes women do, or else they wouldn't fuck them. Point and match. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 08:23 PM |
| 1 | Alternative to the Key/lock analogy.you’re so upset you’re writing essays! lol only dumbasses write shit like this. Sure women like men with some experience but not too much. What aren’t you understanding? It’s not that hard Women like fuckboys, or else they wouldn't fuck them. It's not that hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 08:18 PM |
| 1 | Alternative to the Key/lock analogy.It's retarded because it makes no sense and you can't defend your dumbass statement at all. One can only be a fuckboy if you regularly fuck and use women - which by definition makes them desirable because SOMEONE had to fuck them. What you're trying, and failing to communicate, is that women SAY they don't want fuckboys - and yet they still end up getting used and thrown out over and over again. They are still pursued by women. It's a perfect example of observing what women do and not what they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 08:09 PM |
| 1 | What's the truth on how women perceive emotional men?Women will lose attraction for you after a single emotional outburst. I've seen it happen, both to me as a young man and to friends as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 08:00 PM |
| 27 | What's the truth on how women perceive emotional men?First of all, a question. Are relationships where you can't express your emotions and share your vulnerability really worth it? That's any relationship a man is in. Secondly, opening up and choosing to be vulnerable in front of your partner do require strength, emotional maturity, trust. Right, because men have no idea if women will find it disgusting and leave them. Imv it's the result of our gender roles and raising boys with the idea that "true men don't cry". You people are insufferable. It'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 07:56 PM |
| 1 | Alternative to the Key/lock analogy.Because if your statement wasn't utterly retarded - which it is - there would be a correlation between how much sex a man has and how directly desirable he is by other women. The MOST desirable men are the fuck boys they get laid the most and are pined over the most. Everything you've said in this thread is straight out of clown city | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 07:35 PM |
| 2 | What is so bad about Female Dating Strategy's teachings?LOL you ForeverAlone FDS types are fucking hilarious to me. Grow up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 07:33 PM |
| 1 | Monogamy: by-product or goal? (Also, settling for someone)What an idiotic statement. The US is right in line with the entire western world in terms of divorce rates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 07:33 PM |
| 1 | Monogamy: by-product or goal? (Also, settling for someone)Didn't respond to a single thing I said, I'll take it as an admission you can't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 07:32 PM |
| 1 | A man shouldn't have a problem waiting for sex ladies, if he does, it's definitely a red flag.You can keep reframing it all you want. It's not paranoia, it happens, it's common, I've seen it. If you want to deny my experiences and say it's not common (based on the fact you fuck and date women I guess?) then do you I guess. No common ground to find. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 07:25 AM |
| 1 | Alternative to the Key/lock analogy.That's so dumb. Every single women I know has been asked her body count multiple times. Men care about this issue. The idea women give a shit at all is just some FDS loser larper dumbass shit they makeup for the sake of argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 07:23 AM |
| 1 | Alternative to the Key/lock analogy.Yeah because women love virgins the way men do, right? Get your bullshit out of here lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 07:21 AM |
| 2 | Alternative to the Key/lock analogy.I don't give a shit about some random autistic sperg on reddit. My original point is true - I have not seen a single woman care about this, ever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 07:19 AM |
| 1 | Monogamy: by-product or goal? (Also, settling for someone)Of course when you can only communicate romantically with 1 human being for the rest of your life 'communication issues' become a massive problem. Of course when you rely on 1 person for all of your sexual, emotional, and intellectual needs this becomes an insanely difficult issue to resolve. Of course when you can only fuck one person then infidelity becomes a problem. You are citing all the problems with monogamy. If 50% of buildings fell down, would you blame the frame of the building, or cou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 07:16 AM |
| 0 | Monogamy: by-product or goal? (Also, settling for someone)Spousal support isn’t that common as most parents both work Are you speaking as ignorant Australian again? Because it absolutely it is common. I don't give a shit about your country. When you split, you divvy up your assets and split your houses. Your living standards take a hit. Tant pis, man. Right, you lose half your shit. Do you think you are making a good case for monogamy right now? Half of all marriages fail, you are admitting you are on the hook for child support and you lose half your a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 07:03 AM |
| 4 | Alternative to the Key/lock analogy.Except that's the opposite of being true. I've never seen a single woman not want a dude because he fucked a lot of women, but I see men who don't want women who are sluts all the time. Your dumb fuck analogy actually has to match real life, you can't just make shit up because you want to piss off redpillers. It just sounds like a 5th grader saying 'I know you are but what am I?' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 01:44 AM |
| 4 | Monogamy: by-product or goal? (Also, settling for someone)Oh seriously? Here's literally the first result from Google. Almost 50 percent of all marriages in the United States will end in divorce or separation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 01:39 AM |
| 1 | A man shouldn't have a problem waiting for sex ladies, if he does, it's definitely a red flag.Bro I said 'A thing happens because X' and your response was 'No that's not why it happens it happens because of Y.' That's literally what you said. Then you try to frame it as if you didn't say that at all. Actually gaslighting. Right out of the abusers playbook. Fucking yikes. Just what the majority was. I never said anything about the majority, why the fuck are you even arguing with me then? All I said was it's common, I've experienced it, as have many other men. Then you started whining like… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 01:37 AM |
| 5 | Monogamy: by-product or goal? (Also, settling for someone)I'm not implying it, I'm stating outright it was better. The average marriage that ends in divorce lasts about 12 years. If 8-10 of those were good years, I’d say there was a net benefit. LOL first of all divorces don't just fall out of the fucking of sky. Usually something has been deeply flawed for many years not just 1 or 2. Second of all that statistic is wrong, the average ,marriage that ends in divorce is about 7-8 years. Third, I have no idea what loony barometer of 'net benefit' you are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 01:33 AM |
| 4 | Monogamy: by-product or goal? (Also, settling for someone)50% of marriages fail. If 50% of buildings fell down would we be saying that our architectural standards were 'working?' No, we'd say that it's complete and utter garbage. That's not even counting the number within the 50% that 'succeed' which are terrible and involve the parents hating each others guts. A long-term, stable and monogamous relationship is the best environment to build a satisfying life around. You’re a team, and have each other’s back. You share each other’s burdens. Yeah except … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/21 11:09 PM |
| 1 | What is so bad about Female Dating Strategy's teachings?You're saying if you polled women, they'd all say they wanted average men? Please. If you believe that you're kidding yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/21 11:04 PM |
| 1 | A man shouldn't have a problem waiting for sex ladies, if he does, it's definitely a red flag.No woman stop being attracted to men because he makes her his mother. Tada! What do I win? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/21 11:04 PM |
| 1 | A man shouldn't have a problem waiting for sex ladies, if he does, it's definitely a red flag.Anecdotes don’t prove your point, but they do prove mine. I am not saying dead bedrooms always happen for the same reason, only that it is a factor with clear evidence. You are the one rejecting anecdotes right in front of your face like a stubborn child. I am not using gaslighting incorrectly. Maybe you don’t know what the word means outside your insular circle of traumatized friends. You are attempting to make me believe a scenario that I have experienced personally did not happen and never ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/21 05:47 PM |
| 1 | What is so bad about Female Dating Strategy's teachings?Yes they are. The vast majority of women would agree with me - they are not looking for average men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/21 05:43 PM |
| -2 | What is so bad about Female Dating Strategy's teachings?Jesus Christ, you really do need to talk to women like they are children. His point wasn’t about 6 packs, it was to demonstrate that any outstanding qualities a man has will no longer be outstanding if everyone has them. They will become the norm and expected. Women expectations will increase in direct proportion to what is typical male behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/21 02:43 PM |
| 3 | What will children of the ones currently posting thirst traps/racy tik tok videos think when they stumble across their parents' profiles?That’s just not true. Every kid has the capacity to pick on others when it’s socially acceptable. And losers are socially acceptable to pick on. If you don’t understand that, you don’t understand or haven’t observed these dynamics in real life. Nasty words that are unwanted and hurtful is absolutely bullying. People mocking your mom doesn’t mean you don’t have friends - it means you are mocked and derided for something you can’t control and that’s hurtful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/21 01:14 PM |
| 1 | A man shouldn't have a problem waiting for sex ladies, if he does, it's definitely a red flag.I linked you an article where dozens of women lament why their husband is perfect yet still their pussies are drier than the Sahara. I have women who are friends who have told me they are losing attraction. They admit the men are great, loving, caring and supportive. You don’t know what the fuck your are talking about, so stop attempting to gaslight me with your BS about burping and cleaning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/21 01:09 PM |
| 3 | What will children of the ones currently posting thirst traps/racy tik tok videos think when they stumble across their parents' profiles?It sounds like you have a Nickelodeon view of bullying. Kids pick on unattractive misfits and weirdos just because they don’t fit in all the time. Kids are brutally bullied for just being different, dressing different, sounding different, etc. Violence might be due to family issues, but simple mockery is something almost every single kid is capable of with the right friend group. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/21 01:02 PM |
| 3 | What will children of the ones currently posting thirst traps/racy tik tok videos think when they stumble across their parents' profiles?That’s why basically all bullying happens. What are you talking about? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/21 06:19 AM |
| 1 | A man shouldn't have a problem waiting for sex ladies, if he does, it's definitely a red flag.Yes, men understand that women stop seeing them as attractive after they secure commitment. This is not surprising. I’m not talking about sex she never wanted to have. I am saying that all people, men and women, desire their ideal relationship including sex. Women with many partners are often sexually stimulated much more by earlier partners they’ve dated, often because they are younger and date more desirable hotter men, and as the initial excitement wears off with their stable boyfriend/husban… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/21 04:07 AM |
| 1 | A man shouldn't have a problem waiting for sex ladies, if he does, it's definitely a red flag.Tell that to all the fathers and husbands in relationships like this one: https://archive.md/Wnddv Being in a relationship where you love your wife and kids only for her to consider divorce, ripping everything from you, because she doesn’t find you attractive and fantasizes about her ex’s is a nightmare for all men. It boggles my men that modern women are so unbelievably stupid and selfish they can’t grasp this or understand how common it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/21 03:32 AM |
| 4 | Dating is like getting a job. You need a job to gain experience, but you need experience to get a job. You need a relationship to gain experience, but you need experience to get a relationship.He already said attractive men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 11:54 PM |
| 7 | What will children of the ones currently posting thirst traps/racy tik tok videos think when they stumble across their parents' profiles?Promiscuous sex is masculine. Women who do masculine behaviors are gross and unattractive. The equivalent would be if someone’s father dressed up in drag and posted the photos online. Women would find it disturbing and unattractive. It’s crazy to me how people still don’t understand this and feel the need to blame on it historical injustices. No one gives a shit you’re a whore online, but that shit is hilariously unattractive- so much so even children understand innately how embarrassing it is. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 09:01 PM |
| 3 | Are women (maybe men as well?) more open sexually with a partner they are attracted to physically?This is why sexual monogamy makes no sense. You are dooming yourself to unhappiness for literally no reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 07:22 PM |
| 7 | Dating is like getting a job. You need a job to gain experience, but you need experience to get a job. You need a relationship to gain experience, but you need experience to get a relationship.You’re not getting it. Confidence is an outcome of success. You don’t learn to be confident, you achieve success and then you ARE confident, because you understand everything needed to achieve success a second or third time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 06:54 PM |
| 1 | A man shouldn't have a problem waiting for sex ladies, if he does, it's definitely a red flag.1 or 2 hookups / FWBs is equivalent to one or two FB photos of men in dresses. Even a single occasion is unattractive and enough to disqualify someone. But yes, I do think by and large hookup culture is over exaggerated at TRP. That being said, I think what’s much more common is for women to bounce from short term relationship to short term relationship (3 months - 1 year) wracking up a pretty big count along the way which is equally unattractive and certainly gives the impression of a carousel.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 06:38 PM |
| 1 | A man shouldn't have a problem waiting for sex ladies, if he does, it's definitely a red flag.If you can’t tell which men are players or not you’re literally a stunted human being. It’s like saying a man needs a carfax to tell who’s a gold digger. This isn’t a fucking algebra test, if you don’t know the obvious signs (biggest one: “we met on Tinder!”) then just give up and adopt some cats. And yes…finding women who will fuck you early is literally the entire point. Don’t settle for promiscuous girls that don’t put out for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 02:12 PM |
| 1 | A man shouldn't have a problem waiting for sex ladies, if he does, it's definitely a red flag.Slutty behavior is masculine, and masculine behavior is unattractive in women. It’s not about what you can or can’t do, we don’t live in the 18th century. But if you do unattractive shit then men will find it gross. If I acted like a feminine little bitch and had FB photos of me wearing dresses, a lot of women would nope the fuck out, as is their right. That aside it’s not even the point. The point is how women treat you relative to other men. If she wants to fuck other guys on the first date bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 02:08 PM |
| 2 | A man shouldn't have a problem waiting for sex ladies, if he does, it's definitely a red flag.Then you’re not who redpill is talking about. But the issue is women lie constantly about how promiscuous they actually are so it’s impossible to know if they are telling the truth about when they feel comfortable putting out. Again - you aren’t comprehending. It has nothing to do with ‘only being interested in sex.’ Sex is an extremely important part of relationships and attraction is the foundation for any LTR. If someone has to wait months before they are attracted enough to fuck a man should… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 02:00 PM |
| 1 | A man shouldn't have a problem waiting for sex ladies, if he does, it's definitely a red flag.We’re talking in generalities. Duh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 01:56 PM |
| 2 | A man shouldn't have a problem waiting for sex ladies, if he does, it's definitely a red flag.Absolutely. If they don’t think that’s true they’re obviously lying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 03:32 AM |
| 8 | A man shouldn't have a problem waiting for sex ladies, if he does, it's definitely a red flag.That’s the point. Who wants some broad that takes 3 months to work up a desire to fuck you when she’s open to sucking cock on the first date with someone else? Everyone wants to feel desirable. Men should respect themselves enough to walk away from a bad deal but are usually brainwashed by the potential for pussy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 03:30 AM |
| 4 | A man shouldn't have a problem waiting for sex ladies, if he does, it's definitely a red flag.Look at their track record, duh. Are they coming out of a LTR? Did you meet in a bar or a club? How long have they been single? How many women have they fucked this year? Ask a male friend. There are so many obvious signs that women are oblivious too. Men can tell who players are literally in seconds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 03:27 AM |
| 3 | A man shouldn't have a problem waiting for sex ladies, if he does, it's definitely a red flag.Instead of rules, think of it as ‘doing uncomfortable things.’ Anyone, man or woman is more willing to do uncomfortable things for someone who they are incredibly into. Men do this all the time for sex - they will literally drive across state lines just for sex with some broad they’ve never met at 3am because she said ‘come through.’ Women do it by being more flexible with their behaviors. I’ve had girls change their wardrobe for me, move to different states, switch jobs, go to the gym more freq… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 03:25 AM |
| 6 | A man shouldn't have a problem waiting for sex ladies, if he does, it's definitely a red flag.The actual point is women are idiotic to believe making a man wait for sex is an indicator whether or not he’s a player. There are girls I flirted with for years, pursued them in relationships, then fucked them once and lost all interest. This is why someone’s past is important. Did the guy just get out of a LTR? Has he been ‘dating’ for 10 years? These are all obvious signals but women get so excited over good looks it a nice job their logic goes out the window. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 03:13 AM |
| 5 | A man shouldn't have a problem waiting for sex ladies, if he does, it's definitely a red flag.Masculine traits are different from feminine traits. Most women I’ve met wouldn’t be attracted to men who put as much effort into their clothes and makeup as they do or cross dress, most men don’t want women who treat sex like a man does. It’s innately disgusting and unattractive. The opposite sex determines what is high value, and if men think slutty behavior doesn’t make you high value then it doesn’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 03:08 AM |
| 1 | What exactly is the end game for red-pillers,mgtow, mra, etc?Your statements are incongruent. You cannot say that women are looking for traitional men, before agreeing women are looking for that but it's because 'that's how it's been since the beginning of time.' The reality is most women want the classic perfect man - makes more money, pays most bills, tall, strong, masculine, chivalrous, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/21 09:17 PM |
| 1 | What exactly is the end game for red-pillers,mgtow, mra, etc?TRP believes that women become less attractive after 30, which is objectively true. Since men value physical beauty then it's completely fair to say that for men their value lowers with age. It is not hate, just a fact. Talk of toxic masculinity is very rarely constructive. I think you are extremely bias, justifying your personal perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/21 09:14 PM |
| 23 | What exactly is the end game for red-pillers,mgtow, mra, etc?Sorry, but if you truly believe this you're divorced from reality. Reddit polls do not represent the average person. The majority of women expect men to make the lion's share of the money. Very few women are happy to 'date down' financially. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/21 02:10 AM |
| 8 | What exactly is the end game for red-pillers,mgtow, mra, etc?This is a really, really stupid thing to say. I speak positively about very few cohorts of people, including men. There's nothing wrong with pointing out flaws. Believing in 'toxic masculinity doesn't mean that you hate men, does it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/21 02:07 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Playing the numbers game and relaxing your standards actually yields you more total 'stunners' as a guyYou're having a conversation with yourself, not responding to a single point and making up strawmen. Keep doing that alone, I'm out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 02:42 AM |
| 6 | In your experience, what are some things different about women in the real world compared to FDS/PPD/Internet women?Everyone has a bar. Women's is no higher or lower than men. They will date shitty men because they don't want to be alone. No one is a special snowflake. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 02:41 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Playing the numbers game and relaxing your standards actually yields you more total 'stunners' as a guyNo, it is not about the funding. It's about the fact that gaining prestige/fame / whatever is fundamentally easier for new breakthrough work than reproducing existing studies. Considering the volume of 'science' that occurs even if we went back to a simpler time and place we'd still have the issue of reproducibility as a fundamental step in the scientific process not being performed frequently enough to cover all the research being done. You're arguing in insanely bad faith by the way. I don't g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 12:33 AM |
| 10 | In your experience, what are some things different about women in the real world compared to FDS/PPD/Internet women?This isn't what I've experienced. Women will happily partner up with shitty men and do so all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 12:24 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Playing the numbers game and relaxing your standards actually yields you more total 'stunners' as a guyWhy the fuck not? Do we discard logic as well? empiricism? language? why not just spend the day pasting random dribbling? Because studies are limited to that which has been studied, in detail, with enough rigor, and enough volume to have a clear meta-analytical trend. Most of human experience does not meet that criteria, and refusing to engage with those aspects of life is childish and insane. People that do not respect science for what it is do not deserve modern technology (like communists don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 12:18 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Playing the numbers game and relaxing your standards actually yields you more total 'stunners' as a guyScience is great. I was a data scientist for many years, but we used science where it actually makes sense. Science doesn't make sense to apply for literally every argument and every single opinion we have. If a study has not been conducted it doesn't mean that someone's opinion is invalid. 100% of people do not base every opinion they have off some scientific study, and if they did they would lead an insane nightmarish life. Stop being dishonest. You probably have many, many opinions that are n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 08:59 PM |
| 5 | Despite TRPers desperately wanting it to be true science shows that women aren't attracted to dark triad men.Did I say that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 03:20 AM |
| 1 | I’m relation to two recent posts: Is TRP and FDS toxic or do they merely have a common toxic element?Of course. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 03:19 AM |
| 5 | How would you handle libido differences with a partnerEveryone's libido drops. Everyone's changes. Women's drop more than men. That's all there is to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 03:19 AM |
| 3 | Despite TRPers desperately wanting it to be true science shows that women aren't attracted to dark triad men.It is intellectually dishonest to approach any subject by quoting a bunch of random articles without context, presenting nothing from the opposite side, and throwing them into a half-baked hypothesis as if you're saying something meaningful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/21 11:24 PM |
| 4 | How would you handle libido differences with a partnerExactly. Men need to stop setting themselves up for failure. The female libido will drop. Stop committing to monogamy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/21 11:02 PM |
| 5 | How would you handle libido differences with a partnerThere's sex to fulfill a physical need (like pissing or shitting) and sex because you love someone and want to be closer to them. When there are differences in libido and the man 'holds himself back,' they are repressing perfectly natural, physical functions that make them happier and healthier. This is exactly the reason why I recommend no man ever commits to purely monogamous relationships. You are engaging in pointless self-flagellation for no reason, and you are setting yourself up for failu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/21 11:00 PM |
| 3 | What is the female equivalent of "not being that into a guy"?If a man 'doesn't like her that much' he wants sex without the commitment. If a woman 'doesn't like him that much' she wants the commitment without the sex. That's what we call the friend zone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/21 07:02 AM |
| 13 | I’m relation to two recent posts: Is TRP and FDS toxic or do they merely have a common toxic element?TRP and FDS are both larping. It's communities to roleplay about being Machiavellian badasses who get what they want. The reality is they're all losers playing make-believe on the internet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/21 06:50 AM |
| 7 | I’m relation to two recent posts: Is TRP and FDS toxic or do they merely have a common toxic element?You're just describing the difference between men and women, not something unique to TRP and FDS. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/21 06:47 AM |
| 33 | QFW: Does penis size is taken into account for judging a man to be HVM or not?Anyone who actively engages in hyper overt sexual strategy is a larper loser 99% of the time, both TRP and FDS. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/21 07:22 PM |
| 2 | QFW: Does penis size is taken into account for judging a man to be HVM or not?The difference is usually men are 'rating' aspects of the female body that can be changed, and will make their sex life better. It's moronic to me not to want your partner to tell you how the sex and attraction could be better. Do you want them to be less attracted to you? It's bizarre. Dick size is totally different. Outside surgery there's nothing you can do about that. It's like breasts, except 100x worse because breasts do not directly impact sexual performance. I think women should be vocal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/21 07:18 PM |
| 2 | QFW: Does penis size is taken into account for judging a man to be HVM or not?Not low value, but a bad bet for a longterm partner. Unless you've got an equivalently sized dick the sex will never be as good anymore. It's just as of an bad investment to be with a man who dated an IG thot model with a great body and huge ass, 99% of women aren't going to measure up and probably won't get his sexual best. Its just a bad investment to be with someone like that and unless you are better or at least comparable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/21 07:15 PM |
| 2 | QFW: Does penis size is taken into account for judging a man to be HVM or not?I think this is pretty obvious. Hotter women with better bodies are always preferrable to average looking women with average bodies and non-hourglass figures. Bigger dicks are always preferrable to small dicks. It is what it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/21 07:11 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Playing the numbers game and relaxing your standards actually yields you more total 'stunners' as a guyThat was my initial point. If your only response is 'you don't have studies' then you're engaging in scientism. Personal anecdotes are data. It's pretty easy to argue against an anecdote. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/21 08:24 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Playing the numbers game and relaxing your standards actually yields you more total 'stunners' as a guyThis is a CMV so I'm not sure how room for debate goes out the window. It is quite literally inviting debate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/21 08:16 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Playing the numbers game and relaxing your standards actually yields you more total 'stunners' as a guyPeer reviewed studies makes sense for large scale solutions that risk people's lives, like medicine. It is totally unnecessary for most day-to-day living. It's so fucking dishonest when people pretend like every facet of their lives is run by a scientific study. It's just a way to invalidate things they don't agree with 99% of the time. The vast majority of the way anyone interacts with the opposite sex is through personal experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/21 08:10 AM |
| 10 | CMV: Playing the numbers game and relaxing your standards actually yields you more total 'stunners' as a guyPeople who make comments like this are engaging in pure scientism. We had thousands of years of building human civilization with approximately zero peer reviewed studies, but now every single statement isn't credible without one? It's ridiculous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/21 12:09 AM |
| 6 | How can loyalty exist if hypergamy is realHypergamy applies to all humans, not just women. Once a man dates a hot woman he is not going to go back to dating fat women without a very good reason. Hypergamy is a universal human characteristic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/21 02:59 AM |
| 1 | [Q4A] You now have all 6 infinity stones, with the snap of your fingers you can make one drastic and permanent change to the dating marketplace. What do you do?Eliminate physical attractiveness as a dating criteria anyone cares about. My wife is a stunner, but my dating life would have been so much easier if I wasn't so strongly motivated to be with someone hot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 12:28 AM |
| 1 | In younger people, has number of instagram followers become relevant to hypergamy?In real life or online. Go to any bar, find the most attractive girl in there, and ask her if she has as an instagram. Near 100% of the time she will, and she'll have thousands of followers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/21 05:15 PM |
| 2 | How 'Golden Penis Syndrome' is ruining dating for university women: Deficit of male students means men develop inflated egos and become 'Casanovas' who 'cheat' - despite a 'lack of social and sexual skills'I'm sure they would, and they may be right. But that doesn't mean it isn't a problem. The whole point was that women were being discouraged to enter STEM because of cultural expectations, or that minorities weren't getting enough feedback from their mentors/public education to understand the value of STEM, and the worst inner city schools in the country severely neglected STEM meaning that things like advanced math was very daunting. A black person choosing to get a degree in social work is cert… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/21 04:32 PM |
| 2 | In younger people, has number of instagram followers become relevant to hypergamy?No one is talking about social media addicts besides you. The OP referred to women with thousands of followers. You don't need to take 34 selfies a week for that, not even close, especially if you're reasonably hot. 1 photo a week, or a few at month at fun locations or the beach is easily enough to grow a following of that size. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/21 04:25 PM |
| 1 | In younger people, has number of instagram followers become relevant to hypergamy?The question was about women with thousands of followers. Boring unattractive office workers aren't going to have thousands of followers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/21 04:24 PM |
| 2 | In younger people, has number of instagram followers become relevant to hypergamy?People who say things like that are either A.) not attractive or B.) don't know many attractive people. If you're talking about the average regular person working a desk job, then yes obviously they don't care of bragging about their shitty lives to people who don't care. But if you're hot, or travel the world, or both - then yes, people care about social media quite a bit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/21 04:05 PM |
| 1 | In younger people, has number of instagram followers become relevant to hypergamy?That's just not true. Go to any popular travel destination in the world and you'll see women in relationships taking pictures for Instagram. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/21 04:03 PM |
| 2 | In younger people, has number of instagram followers become relevant to hypergamy?This is just not accurate at all. The majority of very attractive women I encounter all have Instagram at absolute minimum and several thousand followers is the norm. For an average person, sure I think it's more common for social media to be used for friend groups but not the top 10% of beautiful people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/21 04:01 PM |
| 1 | If you can't find a good woman online, you're a below average male and it's a tough pill to swallowEven if that were true it doesn't change the point at all. Women still have the majority of choice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/21 08:06 PM |
| 13 | If you can't find a good woman online, you're a below average male and it's a tough pill to swallowYour point is impossible to decipher. Men outnumber women 7 to 1 on OLD apps. Of course it's easier for you, women have all the selection and can choose top tier guys like Putin's lawyer. That doesn't mean the men who struggle are below average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/21 07:03 PM |
| 2 | How 'Golden Penis Syndrome' is ruining dating for university women: Deficit of male students means men develop inflated egos and become 'Casanovas' who 'cheat' - despite a 'lack of social and sexual skills'Yes, I think it's important to understand why people make decisions that set them up for failure and work towards a solution. I am half black. I spend an hour a week tutoring black teenagers about software engineering jobs to steer them towards STEM. If you thought this was a gotcha question, you are sadly mistaken. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/21 06:53 PM |
| 13 | If you can't find a good woman online, you're a below average male and it's a tough pill to swallowDo you think that Putin's lawyer and the Chief Developer of Assassins Creed represent the average male? Why didn't you use examples of going out with average men instead? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/21 06:50 PM |
| 2 | How 'Golden Penis Syndrome' is ruining dating for university women: Deficit of male students means men develop inflated egos and become 'Casanovas' who 'cheat' - despite a 'lack of social and sexual skills'How is men choosing not to go to college them being "unable"? You clearly assumed that men are choosing not go, independent of any negative systemic factors that might be driving them towards this decision. Considering there are massive quality of life differences between college educated and non college educated men, regardless of whether it's their choice or not it should be treated as a problem to be investigated, understood, and potentially solved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/21 06:47 PM |
| 0 | Commitment and communication are more important in making a relationship work than sex and passion.70s have a lot of sex. There's massive herpes outbreaks in old folks home because they are all fucking each other raw. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/21 06:28 PM |
| 5 | Commitment and communication are more important in making a relationship work than sex and passion.Of course they viewed as each other as hot. Being hot doesn't mean being a 22 year old stripper. It means being very attractive and sexy to the other person, and for pretty much everyone a huge part of that is mental in addition to the physical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/21 06:27 PM |
| 7 | Will women really make a guy waits months for sex in order to “develop an emotional connection”?Ehh it takes years for emotional connection. Not to be an ass, but you've never had a romantic relationship. You quite literally don't know what you are talking about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/21 06:19 PM |
| 6 | Will women really make a guy waits months for sex in order to “develop an emotional connection”?I'd posit that strong romantic feelings are very different than emotional relationships between friends. Once you start throwing physical connection, sex, and emotional closeness into the mix it's a very different situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/21 06:09 PM |
| 11 | Will women really make a guy waits months for sex in order to “develop an emotional connection”?Depends on how much you're communicating. Plenty of people have strong enough feelings for someone after a few weeks or a month to know they want a relationship with them. It's not rocket science. You're confusing connection with what makes someone a good longterm partner. An emotional connection is System 1 thinking and mainly unconscious, and determining longterm compatability is System 2. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/21 05:53 PM |
| 31 | Will women really make a guy waits months for sex in order to “develop an emotional connection”?Having an emotional connection takes weeks, not years. That's insane. You don't need someone to know your family or understand every facet of their life in order to love them. It probably takes years to ensure that there is a strong mutual longterm fit. That's different. That comes from being put in situations that take a long time to occur. For example, moments of extreme stress, or what happens when you're both super angry, or one person breaks a promise, or struggles with money, or does somet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/21 05:14 PM |
| 8 | CMV: Since women are attracted to “bad boys” during their 20s and then settle down with the “nice guy” by the time they reach 30, that just means that pursuing healthy relationships with women is pointless.He's pretty on the money, generally speaking. Although it's probably less about the ba boy versus the most attractive partner for that person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/21 02:13 AM |
| 3 | How 'Golden Penis Syndrome' is ruining dating for university women: Deficit of male students means men develop inflated egos and become 'Casanovas' who 'cheat' - despite a 'lack of social and sexual skills'Until we know the reason, wouldn't it be dangerous to make assumptions either way? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/21 12:51 AM |
| – | Most of you are damaged and in denialPeople can't just 'lower' their beauty standard, any more than one can just 'decide' to enjoy certain foods if you hate them. You can pretend to lower it, but this is called settling. Settling may lead to short-term success, but longterm failure as the likelihood of cheating or resentment increase. It is not the 1940s. People are not staying married for financial or religious reasons anymore. You people are fundamentally selfish Everyone is 'fundamentally selfish.' We don't choose a partner for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/21 11:27 PM |
| 4 | How 'Golden Penis Syndrome' is ruining dating for university women: Deficit of male students means men develop inflated egos and become 'Casanovas' who 'cheat' - despite a 'lack of social and sexual skills'Why wait? Modern dating is just getting worse, not better. Dating in foreign countries gets a bad rap because ignorant Americans think you're going to the third world or something for gold diggers. When I met my wife, she was more educated than me (MBA), had a well paying job and was financially independent (she funded her own trips to meet me), was an entrepreneur, had traditional values (though she was considered pretty progressive in her own country) and drop dead gorgeous. This is something … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/21 10:17 PM |
| 4 | How 'Golden Penis Syndrome' is ruining dating for university women: Deficit of male students means men develop inflated egos and become 'Casanovas' who 'cheat' - despite a 'lack of social and sexual skills'Could be. But there is no doubt that people who attend college have radically better life outcomes than people who don't. Some jobs like doctor, lawyer, etc need post secondary education, and even most engineering / STEM roles need some sort of degree for people to be take seriously. One way or the other people should take the issue seriously and understand what's happening instead of assuming. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/21 09:46 PM |
| 17 | How 'Golden Penis Syndrome' is ruining dating for university women: Deficit of male students means men develop inflated egos and become 'Casanovas' who 'cheat' - despite a 'lack of social and sexual skills'That's what I did. American women are literal trash compared to what else is out there. I dated Americans for many years, then spent 4 years in Asia working and my mind was blown about how much better and more fulfilling dating was. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/21 08:32 PM |
| 34 | How 'Golden Penis Syndrome' is ruining dating for university women: Deficit of male students means men develop inflated egos and become 'Casanovas' who 'cheat' - despite a 'lack of social and sexual skills'Bingo. They are literally just describing how anyone with options acts. Here's your sign. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/21 08:31 PM |
| 9 | How 'Golden Penis Syndrome' is ruining dating for university women: Deficit of male students means men develop inflated egos and become 'Casanovas' who 'cheat' - despite a 'lack of social and sexual skills'Or if for some reason more boys are experiencing poverty, homelessness, etc then that's something we can take measures to address as a society. You don't think young boys failing to enter college en masse is not a systemic issue we should address as a society? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/21 08:30 PM |
| 1 | Can having sex with very attractive people "ruin" your ability to get aroused by others?Why would that be what I wanted to hear? I sent her all sorts of pictures, and multiple half naked. I was surprised she picked that one. You're just making shit up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 09:10 PM |
| 3 | Can having sex with very attractive people "ruin" your ability to get aroused by others?That's just not true. The first image my wife said I sent that aroused her was a picture of my chest and abs. The idea women aren't aroused by body parts is just silly. Women are human beings, and human beings are attracted to the human body. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 06:37 PM |
| 10 | Can having sex with very attractive people "ruin" your ability to get aroused by others?This is so, so dumb. Women think guys are hot before getting to know them constantly. Women fuck men they think are hot all the time. Women judge men based on their looks and height over personality all the time. Women are not angels hovering above men, they want to fuck hot guys the same as anyone else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 01:32 PM |
| 1 | Debunking the narrative that men leave their sick spouse more than women.Women who gave up income to raise children therefore get the smallest pensions. And there is no governmental assistance that makes up the difference? I don't know about Canadian welfare. No offense, but you assuming everyone is American and every stat is American is a problem of your own provincialism, not a problem with data. You are on an American website, in a primarily American subreddit. The obvious default is the US system, and you didn't specify otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 01:29 PM |
| 13 | Can having sex with very attractive people "ruin" your ability to get aroused by others?This is the dumbest take. Almost all women have a height requirement to initiate even talking to a man as a potential partner, and that's at the absolute minimum. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 12:22 PM |
| 2 | Debunking the narrative that men leave their sick spouse more than women.Again, being on welfare is usually a result of easier government assistance when raising children. Of course women are going to be more likely than men to be on welfare because women win custody in 80% of divorces. with the lowest pensions out of any demographic. Kind of an odd stat. Less than 20% of jobs have pensions, and the pension amount depends on the job and how long the job is worked. A teacher's pension will typically be much lower than the pension of a military service member, and mode… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 12:15 PM |
| 6 | Debunking the narrative that men leave their sick spouse more than women.And women are 3 times likelier to end up on welfare following divorce than men are. This is because divorced single mothers are much more likely to be awarded welfare than divorced men. It's about who is the primary care provider for children not that women inherently fall into financial insolvency. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 05:21 AM |
| 5 | Should men try and appeal to a specific niche of women or to a majority of them?So..my initial point was correct? You have plenty of options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/21 05:27 PM |
| 3 | Should men try and appeal to a specific niche of women or to a majority of them?You said your options are pretty slim, but then said when you do get someone they are in the top 10%. If some number of upper tier women want you, it doesn't make sense that the other 90% of women would want you at a lower ratio. The analogy was like saying you could get a job at Google (top of all businesses) but no other company is interested. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/21 05:22 PM |
| 4 | Should men try and appeal to a specific niche of women or to a majority of them?My options are pretty slim, and I go years without a gf. When I do find one, they are top 10% ??? This is like saying you could work at Google but nowhere else. It doesn't make sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/21 03:41 PM |
| 0 | Should men try and appeal to a specific niche of women or to a majority of them?I’ve never seen a man who was confident in himself not be able to get women Exactly. Confidence is an outcome of success, not an input to it. You cannot suddenly become confident if your entire life has been one series of relationship failures to the next. You have the order totally backwards. Men are confident because they succeeded. Men hate themselves because they failed. The only way around this is to fake confidence, which is what TRP would recommend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/21 03:38 PM |
| 5 | Should men try and appeal to a specific niche of women or to a majority of them?It sounds like you have plenty of options. Men who turn to TRP don't, otherwise they wouldn't be there. If they followed the 'take it move along' ideology they would probably be single forever. People forget that the majority of women are pursuing the to 20% of men, and the bottom 10% of men are fundamentally invisible to them. These are the people we are talking about giving advice to, not some decent looking guy at average height with a good job. We're talking about the losers staying at home … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/21 02:12 PM |
| 5 | Should men try and appeal to a specific niche of women or to a majority of them?I think his point is that it actually doesn't work fine. The line between 'you should go to the gym, change your diet, and wear nice clothes to appeal to women' and 'you should carry yourself like a confident man who is good with women in order to appeal to women' is very blurry and the 'obvious' difference just comes down to common tropes. What if a man likes wearing nerdy t-shirts, and he enjoys talking about his comic collection on the first date, and he hates going to the gym. The TRP advice… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/21 02:09 PM |
| 1 | Women have a greater return on investment (ROI) than men do when it comes to appearanceI'm multi racial and pretty unusual looking, definitely not conventionally attractive. With a good body I've dated (and married) girls who thought I were crazy hot. I remember the first time I had sex with my future wife she came just from looking at me fuck her in the mirror. PPD seriously over stresses how important it is to be conventionally attractive / tall. It's definitely easier, but the types of women I got and still get are really, really attractive, I just have to put in a lot more wor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/21 11:22 PM |
| 3 | Women have a greater return on investment (ROI) than men do when it comes to appearanceHuh? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/21 11:18 PM |
| 1 | Women have a greater return on investment (ROI) than men do when it comes to appearanceA stunningly average 5 foot 8 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/21 11:18 PM |
| 3 | Women have a greater return on investment (ROI) than men do when it comes to appearanceThat's silly. I went from a skinny string bean to pretty ripped and I've noticed a HUGE difference in the type of woman that's interested in me. The first time I met my wife and showed her old photos of me she said 'I would definitely not have been interested in you back then.' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/21 07:52 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?I didn't deflect anything, you just made an irrelevant point to what I said. Being fair is not an outcome I desire in a relationship. Having, you know, a good relationship is an outcome. Happiness, fulfillment, that sort of thing. I don't want to be equal but unhappy, that's dumb. A man sleeping with other women while his wife his sick is unfair but preserves the relationship, this seems to me to be a much better outcome than him leaving the relationship because his sexual needs are unaddressed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/21 03:49 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?See ya bud | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 11:04 PM |
| 1 | BP is completely ignorant about how very hot women think or view the worldIt sounds like you're in a tough place in life bud. Good luck. I'm off | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 10:56 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?That's wild. I couldn't care less about you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 10:55 PM |
| 1 | BP is completely ignorant about how very hot women think or view the world*shrug* It's the internet. Believe what you what. I'm always down to give photos and text chat evidence, but people who doubt me never respond to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 10:53 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?You're a little obsessed with me, aren't you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 10:47 PM |
| 1 | BP is completely ignorant about how very hot women think or view the worldWe're both from the same town, I live on the opposite coast. I work in tech, have been for many years so I understand how Google's salary/equity works. No, she doesn't know I'm married because I didn't tell her. Not sure why you think not telling people my real age means anything. But you do you super sleuth. Keep up the great detective work lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 10:47 PM |
| 0 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Think what you want bud. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 10:45 PM |
| 1 | What is the cause of Retroactive Jealousy?Not really. If the reaction isn't reasonable or overblown, that's on you, not on your partner. Yes really. Unreasonable or overblown reactions are subjective. To some women reacting negative about anything from their past is seen as unreasonable. Universally extreme reactions are bad regardless of the situation, but that's a strawman. No one is talking about extreme reactions besides you. Men have the option not to date, look for someone compatible or to "settle" and poison themselves, their par… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 10:44 PM |
| 0 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Man on internet isn't consistent about his age. News at 11. Amazing you don't have anything to say about my actual relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 10:34 PM |
| 1 | BP is completely ignorant about how very hot women think or view the worldBecause I didn't say I was married, duh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 10:33 PM |
| 0 | BP is completely ignorant about how very hot women think or view the worldWhy are you still talking to me? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 02:01 AM |
| 1 | BP is completely ignorant about how very hot women think or view the worldIf I sent pics then you'd believe me? I can if you want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 11:24 PM |
| 1 | BP is completely ignorant about how very hot women think or view the worldI think you're clueless and not worth my time, so I'm going stop talking to you now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 11:20 PM |
| 0 | BP is completely ignorant about how very hot women think or view the worldWeird that attractive people in tech want to be with each other? Uh, ok I guess. Do you think she would be dating a poor loser? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 11:19 PM |
| 0 | BP is completely ignorant about how very hot women think or view the worldHuh? You realize all equity grants are the same, industry wide. I work in tech, I am a Product Director. I give out these salaries + equity all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 11:11 PM |
| 0 | BP is completely ignorant about how very hot women think or view the worldGoogle doesn't even have college degree requirements anymore, so I'm not that baffled. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 11:06 PM |
| 0 | BP is completely ignorant about how very hot women think or view the worldShe’s cashing in her equity to do this is she? Housing market is crazy now, especially NYC. Why not? Pretty sure you have to hold it for a certain amount of time Initial equity grants vest after 1 year, then a percentage vests every month for the next 3 years. So her initial grant, second year, and nearly third year are fully vested with the rest waterfalled in. 25 year olds don’t fancy 40+ year olds But they’re good for a bit of ££ sometimes 🤣 Girl said what she said. I've talked to women happi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 11:05 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Good job on the grammar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 11:01 PM |
| 1 | BP is completely ignorant about how very hot women think or view the worldThat's what she said, I dunno what to tell you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 11:01 PM |
| 0 | BP is completely ignorant about how very hot women think or view the worldIf by high level, you mean entry level then OK I guess. Why don't you google how much entry level SWEs make it Google. Talking to non tech people about salary is kind of infuriating if I'm being honest. Nobody would bat an eye at this in my world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 10:59 PM |
| 1 | BP is completely ignorant about how very hot women think or view the worldSalary is $100K but the total comp is closer to $200K. Then factor in she's been there going on 6 years, couple promotions, living with her parents and not paying rent, and that she's got a shit ton of vested equity and that's easily enough to put together down payments on a couple condos in NYC. It's pretty common in the tech space I dunno why you think it's so crazy. If you say a decent condo is what $750K - $1M? That's only $150K - $200K down payment. You could do that easy with six years of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 10:53 PM |
| 1 | BP is completely ignorant about how very hot women think or view the worldSoftware engineer. Total comp entry level is about 200K, L4 which is where I suspect she's at is around 250K. Multiply that over 6 years and account for Google's equity growth and there you go. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 10:42 PM |
| 0 | BP is completely ignorant about how very hot women think or view the worldConsidering she and I both come from a town where the most people are minorities living at the poverty line then I pretty strongly doubt it. I'm good, but thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 10:40 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Unfairness isn't an outcome. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 10:36 PM |
| -2 | BP is completely ignorant about how very hot women think or view the worldThat's what she said, I don't know what to tell you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 10:32 PM |
| 0 | BP is completely ignorant about how very hot women think or view the worldGoogle salary + pandemic equity. Living with parents to not pay rent. She's getting like 250K+ a year thanks to the Google stock bump and a non trivial amount has vested. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 10:29 PM |
| -3 | BP is completely ignorant about how very hot women think or view the worldThe girl has been working at Google 5 years. She's loaded. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 10:15 PM |
| 1 | BP is completely ignorant about how very hot women think or view the worldBP is generally opposed to age difference dating, and consistently says women do not want these. Search the threads. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 10:13 PM |
| 0 | BP is completely ignorant about how very hot women think or view the worldI've talked to plenty that aren't that accomplished. She never asked me about money so I dunno. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 10:08 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?No, you're owed honesty. Open marriages are a thing (I have one). You're also owed a healthy sex life, kindness, love, etc. Part of being in a relationship is understanding that people do their best and differences of perception arise. Just because we both feel we are performing our obligations doesn't mean it is up to the standard either side wants. Good communication and effort is important to attempt a resolution before breaking off a legal arrangement with huge consequences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 10:02 PM |
| 0 | BP is completely ignorant about how very hot women think or view the worldHyper targeted by TRP, so pretty relevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 10:01 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?If you can't resolve your differences, then yes it is. But of course it's important to try and fix the problem before immediately ruining your life and others lives, especially if both people are giving their best efforts. Cheating and abuse are much different because they are acts of lying/malice. It's the difference between a job struggling to find you interesting projects (after promising they would) versus withholding your paycheck. The former you can assume good intent, but also recognize t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 09:33 PM |
| -4 | BP is completely ignorant about how very hot women think or view the worldYou are using anecdotal evidence inappropriately. I'm using it exactly correct. Furthermore, you aren't thinking in terms of demographics--even if that anecdote is representative of one demographic, it may not be representative of the US average, etc. I've seen enough to have a representative sample. I even said this in the post. Finally, she is 25. Is she looking to get married? LTR and ideally to marriage, yes. But I'd say this is less true than maybe ever in history. Not with hot women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 09:28 PM |
| 0 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?So what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 09:24 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?I was complaining that leaving at 'the slightest gust' is problematic, yes. The OP of the thread even said 'discard immediately.' Maybe try reading again - but for comprehension next time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 09:19 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?If we're talking about a marriage, then yes men and women should both be entitled to sex. But of course you know that is not what the OP I was responding to was talking about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 09:17 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Did I say otherwise somewhere? Or was I responding to a comment that said the response to sexual incompatability was to leave? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 09:02 PM |
| 2 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Depends on a lot of things. How much you tried to fix the problem, whether or not you have kids, why the sexual issues are happening in the first place, etc. A loving partner with cancer is different from a bored wife whose tired of her husband that can't make her cum, and in my opinion there are large ethical differences between the choices you make in either situation. The first answer should never be to leave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 08:58 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Cool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 08:53 PM |
| 0 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Not all sex is initiated with an 'enthusiastic yes.' Get real. I haven't asked my wife for consent to have sex in 10 years. Doesn't mean I'm raping her. Fucking psychos. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 08:51 PM |
| 0 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?OK? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 08:51 PM |
| 2 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?It is a big deal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 08:50 PM |
| 2 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Of course | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 08:30 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?The fact that you refused to pick up on the change does not mean the change did not happen Which is why I said you did a shit job with your comments on being clear you were on to a new topic. And I have pointed out circumstances where it is indeed wrong to pursue sexual urges, and you got real mad about it for some reason. What if a man isn’t interested in fucking anyone other than his sick wife? Should he still pursue his sexual urges? Rape bad. So controversial. I have argued against everythin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 07:26 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Generally what people mean by that is that men want to sleep around and women don't. That's how it is in my relationship. My wife has specifically said she has no interest or desire to be with other people. People can choose to believe that or not but that's how it is. So if one day of the blue she decided to change her mind, of course it would be problematic because it means there is some underlying change happening in her that's likely more than just her libido flaring up. I'd have to really u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 07:19 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?The conversation has very long since moved past that extremely specific scenario. Keep up. Uh, no? You have been asking me questions about my ideals. You've said as much in the post above. And the only thing I have spoken about in this thread is what I think about open relationships, and how I feel there is nothing wrong with pursuing sexual urges because it's totally natural. Why are you the only one who gets to decide it’s ok to switch gears? Are you the king of the conversation? Your inabilit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 06:31 PM |
| 0 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Ugh. I'll bite. Yes. That is the problem. Because those are important considerations within this conversation. In what way is that an important consideration when talking about marriages falling apart because wives get sick? If your ideals about relationships can only apply in extremely specific circumstances, then what the hell are you even doing? That specific circumstance is what the entire discussion about. Just because you want to have some wacky abstract conversation about rape doesn't mea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 06:20 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Nowhere have I mentioned a single thing about rape or consent. You added that shit on your own, because you're a troll. The context of this entire conversation is about men in relationships with sick wives, where the obvious context of controlling urges is about having sex with other people. There are no implications, because I was talking about something very specific. You had no answer to that, so you're trying to make this a general argument about rape. This is my last response. Kick. Rocks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 06:10 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?I'm done with you, troll. Kick rocks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 06:07 PM |
| 2 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Fuck off you disonest prick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 06:03 PM |
| 2 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Now you're just being dishonest. Obviously you weren't talking about these issues within the context of a relationship, nor does that make any sense within the scope of this conversation. I said that a lot of marriages ended because men weren't able to get their rocks off elsewhere. You then said 'No one needs sex, men are just weak.' In that context- a man not getting sex from his wife - I disagreed You said "Men going after pussy hurts people" Which apparently you have jumped from a very speci… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 06:02 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?You said men were failing to control their urges, I said there's no reason to control their urges because having sex as often as someone wishes is a good thing and totally natural. I was also addressing your point about 'you don't die without sex' by bringing up relationships, which we also wouldn't die without, but it's obviously a good thing for people to engage in as many healthy relationships as they choose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 05:55 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?We have obviously been talking about relationships. How the fuck I was supposed to know you changed the goalpost to rape in secret? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 05:51 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?I was refuting your initial argument when you said men were weak for failing to control their urges. I damn near quoted you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 05:49 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?I'm not sure if you have good reading comprehension. I didn't make an argument against celibacy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 05:43 PM |
| 0 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Yeah, cheating is lying. So don't lie. I really have no clue what the fuck you're talking about tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 05:41 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?It is unreasonable and stupid to disqualify LTRs because of their libido. Stop trying to gatekeep who can enter relationships with each other, it's fucking cringe. A person might have a low libido, but what if their partner isn't present when they want to have sex? It's for the couple to work out rules to sex that makes them comfortable. If the low libido partner wants to grab someone off the street and the high libido partner is OK with it - sure, why not. But in 99% of cases both partners will… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 05:39 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?It only hurts people because of these artificial idealogical contracts of sexual exclusivity in a relationships people buy into, wherein breaking it arbitrarily means you are a bad person. If having sex with other people while in a LTR wasn't a big deal, no one would be hurt. Pretty simple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 05:34 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Fine, Sex is #3 below food and water. Do you think this is a compelling argument against what I said? I didn’t say go celibate Right, because that would be stupid. In the same way it's natural and healthy to have many friends as forming relationships is a part of life, it should be natural to have multiple sexual partners which also natural. It's not about being weak or any other nonsense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 05:33 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Fuck off | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 05:30 PM |
| 2 | What is the cause of Retroactive Jealousy?What I meant is that there's a difference between being insecure mostly because of your own inner reasons and issues and feeling hurt/jealous due to your partner's actions/behavior. Again, this is totally subjective. Everything comes down to inner reasons because you need to interpret an action in order for it to affect you. Someone's partner might say 'You're fat' and one person is offended and hurt, one person is motivated to change, and one person doesn't give a fuck at all. I'm not saying th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 05:28 PM |
| 5 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Why is it weak to do something that makes your life more pleasurable, if there are no negative consequences for doing so? It seems totally rational that I'd like more sexual enjoyment in my life. Why should I limit myself for idealogical reasons that add no value to anyone? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 05:22 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Sex is the reason is the reason we exist on planet earth and it is our strongest and most fundamental biological imperative. Resisting sex is like resisting the urge to form relationships with others - totally unecessary. It leads to a less fulfilling life. Why would we do it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 05:20 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Nope. This is not about fairness, it's about what we need to be happy. It makes zero sense to fuck other people if you have a willing partner. This about solving sexual repression and ensuring longterm happiness, not about getting your rocks off with someone else just because you can. I would never be with someone who wanted to fuck other people ahead of me. I would prefer my wife over anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 05:18 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?I don't care what your values are. I could never imagine telling my husband “if you don’t have sex with me as much as I want, you’re inadequate for me and I will go outside of our marriage” I don't care if you could never imagine it. It works for me. That’s selfish to me. I respect my husband and myself far more than my want for my selfish desires. Because it's not what you want. You aren't repressing strong desires to fuck everything that moves with a dick, are you? That's the difference. You o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 05:15 PM |
| -2 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Its not a "game". Sex needs an enthusiastic "yes" to even start. Insane comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 05:12 PM |
| 2 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?If my wife wanted to fuck other men I would be OK with that. Women in marriages have lower sex drives than men do, mainly because they reach their reproductive limits much faster. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 05:10 PM |
| 0 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Sexual connection is one of the most intimate connections two humans can have and in my opinion should be only shared with the love of your life. If sexual connection was a deep intimate connection then no one would fuck prostitutes who are just using men for money. Sex is a physical need, and can be emotionally intimate with someone you care about. I would be with you if you went to marry these other women as well with the approval of your wife, but just going for casual sex seems to refute the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 05:07 PM |
| 2 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?We can discuss whether or not it was or wasn't gaslighting, which I'd say it was, but regardless you're in the wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 01:12 PM |
| 2 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Why are you bringing up whether or not the spouse is sick? That doesn't seem relevant in this comment thread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 01:02 PM |
| 7 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?It does, thank you. Maybe next time you shouldn't assume that a married person views his life partner as a 'way of sexual gratification over a human being' because they make choices different than yours and have a different way of reconciling differences in compatibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 12:59 PM |
| 2 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Keep crying instead of improving yourself. You’re the only one that suffers there, not me. Clear implication that I need to 'improve myself' or that I'm sad about my dating prospects just because I said a study was dumb and could be easily disproven. You've also said you 'feel sorry for my wife' like her life is terrible or something and that I don't value her beyond her sexuality. Don't try to insult me and then switch over to gaslighting when you get called out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 12:56 PM |
| 2 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?He wasn't talking about marriage, I assume. Which is why I called out specifically that just walking away is not an option for people who legitimately want to be together. I didn't cherry pick anything. You are the one who said if there is a sexual incompatibility you should leave, not me. Al I said was that is distasteful and something Americans, and American women in particular seem to embrace all too frequently. I definitely don't see that represented in all people and certainly not all women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 12:53 PM |
| 4 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?When did I ever say anything even remotely close to that? I love my wife. She's my world. I'd do almost anything for her. We've had an awesome life together, we travel to a different country every three months, I helped her start her business, we've planned out our entire future together, we are blissfully happy. But because I recognize we have a difference in sexual chemistry, and I took steps to address that because I'd like our relationship to function in a healthy way it means I don't view h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 12:49 PM |
| 3 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?If you were happy with your life, then I don't know why you'd feel the need to try to tear my own life down just because I disagreed with you on the internet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 12:45 PM |
| 6 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?I am amazed about how willing Americans and women in particular are to throw away relationships. Kids don't matter, a history of love and support don't matter, a shared future doesn't matter. If we have a sexual incapability just end it all. Like, holy shit I feel terrible for men that get romantically involved with people like you not knowing that at the slightest gust of wind it's all over. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 12:44 PM |
| 4 | What is the cause of Retroactive Jealousy?There's no such thing as an objective reason, because no one can understand exactly what their partner thinks or feels and we likely don't know ourselves enough to be 100% truthful. A man might say 'I've moved beyond physical beauty as something I really care about, and that's why I don't call you beautiful" and that could be true, or a lie, or a justification. It's hard to know, but the evidence is that he is treating the woman much differently and that is cause for concern. Similarly, if a wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 12:42 PM |
| 9 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Sorry you had a shitty relationship and pick bad partners I guess? I feel sorry as fuck for your wife. But as long as she agrees, then welp, ain’t my life. Exactly. What do you have to feel sorry for? You judged my relationship for literally no reason, with no information other than we made a compromise and we've been happy with that for ten years. Why was that your reaction? It's really bizarre. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 12:10 PM |
| 4 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?No shit? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 12:06 PM |
| 3 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?I don't care how many profiles they took. You can literally perform this exercise yourself and see that they are full of shit. My life is great. I'm a technology director married to a beautiful woman I love dearly. You being wrong doesn't mean I don't have a better life than you in every way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 12:05 PM |
| 6 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?The problem is if you marry someone and their sexual preferences change, you can't just 'discard them' without serious financial repercussions to yourself and your potential children. If you agree that 'no one should settle for what they're not happy with' and a woman's sex drive has dropped to a point her husband is no longer happy, why doesn't it make sense to you that these men would experience significant frustration and anxiety because their wives aren't fucking them as much as they once di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 12:03 PM |
| 11 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Prove it. Most men on PPD would really like to have sex, it's a biological impulse after all, and one of the strongest motivations we have as a species to do anything. A lot of men aren't getting sex, and that makes them frustrated and confused. Not much different than a woman saying 'she just wants to be loved' instead of being fucked and dropped by every guy she's into. That's not entitlement. It's a desire for a better outcome in their lives. Learn to tell the difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 12:00 PM |
| 15 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?You're a fucking wacko. You put words in that person's mouth so intensely it's hard for me to even believe you're not a sociopathic troll. 'Pressuring someone into sex' in the way he wrote is not rape. It's game. Anymore than pressuring someone into a relationship is some legal offense. Rape is rape. You're insane. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 11:57 AM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Of course you are owed sex, that's part of the deal. If I sign a contract with a company and the company has certain expectations of me, I owe the company the work I promised. Do you honestly believe a healthy, fulfilling sex life isn't 'part of the deal' when someone signs up for a relationship? And if a man or woman isn't getting that it becomes incredibly problematic? The problem is what people perceive as 'healthy and fulfilling' varies from person to person and usually there is no discussio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 11:52 AM |
| 11 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?This is so unbelievably ridiculous it isn't even worth taking seriously. Run this experiment yourself - make an online dating profile with a hot man, an average man, and an ugly man, and a hot woman, average woman, and an ugly woman. Observe the results. Stop relying on bullshit 'studies' with an agenda. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 11:45 AM |
| -1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?A lot of those marriages wouldn't have ended if the women allowed the men to fuck other girls. Society has stigmatized open relationships to the point of insanity, and would rather people repress themselves to the point of unhappiness for the sake of an ideological concept like 'sexual loyalty.' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 11:43 AM |
| 9 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?The alternative would be allowing him to fuck other women, but most people aren't ready to have that conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 11:41 AM |
| 9 | What is the cause of Retroactive Jealousy?Just because they summed it up doesn't mean the person who experiences RJ is wrong for those feelings. I'm sure some women would be insecure if a man called their previous partners beautiful frequently but never said it to them once. That's probably a very justified emotion and worth concern. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 11:40 AM |
| 1 | Why don't wealthy/powerful men think they're too good for hookers/to pay for sex?These sort of vague statements are so divorced from reality. At any top tier business the executives and CEOs are not sociopaths. They are usually regular, very intelligent people who got a good idea and worked hard to make it happen, and typically pay the people who joined the business extremely well. I have friends who who started companies, sold for millions of dollars and are extremely rich. They're just regular people. There is some insane othering that goes on when it comes to the wealthy … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 12:31 AM |
| 3 | Red Pillers: how much experience have you had with actual women?Can you even explicitly write down your value system? it is so amorphous and at best we can check a few stuff. Of course I can write down my value system. You can't express what you believe, what you're looking for, what's important to you in a partner? Can you not do that for a job, or a friend, or a business partner? How do you create goals for yourself or map out a plan for life if you don't even know what you care about? To measure how much more she values each other? to know how our own val… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/21 07:22 PM |
| 3 | Red Pillers: how much experience have you had with actual women?In a business deal the variables are quantified, people support you to have measures for any variable of interest. Correct. This doesn't happen in relationship. You can do some crude way of comparing emotions and feeling and kinds use system 2 but it won't be great That's ridiculous. Relationship outcomes are easily quantifiable. I've done it for the last decade. There is no difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/21 04:20 AM |
| 3 | Red Pillers: how much experience have you had with actual women?No, that's an incorrect interpretation of systems thinking or relationships, probably both. System 2 is better for multi variable analysis and complex computation. System 1 is ideal for mundane decisions. Would you say the same about getting a business deal through or moving up the corporate ladder? Probably not, right? A relationship is not much different in terms of outcomes, complexity, planning required, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/21 06:00 PM |
| 4 | Red Pillers: how much experience have you had with actual women?System 1 is also flawed, specifically for achieving longterm outcomes which is literally what a relationship is. A relationship is enormously complex, has huge financial and personal implications, and thousands of external variables especially when children are involved. Thinking System 1 is enough for such a thing is mind bogglingly stupid to the point I'm not sure if you're trolling me or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/21 05:08 PM |
| 1 | Red Pillers: how much experience have you had with actual women?I'm married, but dated pretty heavily in my 20s and still enjoy several sexual relationships outside my main one. I agree with you that TRP changes how you think about relationship and at times in negative ways, but in my opinion this is a good thing. What you're describing is the application of strategy and a risk/reward function vs. blissful ignorance. This is not just the case in romantic relationships, it's the case in every human interaction. I could definitely say that working a job was a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/21 04:55 PM |
| 7 | Red Pillers: how much experience have you had with actual women?Relationships aren’t technical. Dumb thinking. Everything is technical. There is always a reason why things don't work out, if you can't see it it's because you don't understand it or can't perceive it, not because it doesn't exist. Try to unlearn all of those things and see your gf as a friend, a peer, and a person who feels things the same way that you do. You can and should do all of that while applying RP thinking as well. Catch yourself trying to analyze her behavior and just talk to her in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/21 04:54 PM |
| 0 | As a man it's better to be a "husband material" than having random short term encountersI already answered this question elsewhere in the thread so you can search for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/21 08:23 AM |
| 1 | As a man it's better to be a "husband material" than having random short term encountersSex is easy to get. I'll never understand guys who brag about it. It's like being proud of having a job. Welcome to being basic I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 07:30 AM |
| 2 | As a man it's better to be a "husband material" than having random short term encountersThe only way you can get a high quality LTR is with the promise commitment, yes. Or you can lie, like a bitch. That's also an option, but I'm not a bitch, so I don't lie. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 07:08 AM |
| 2 | As a man it's better to be a "husband material" than having random short term encountersI don't know what point you think you are refuting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 07:01 AM |
| 3 | As a man it's better to be a "husband material" than having random short term encountersSomeone who adds value to your life as an asset not a liability. Someone who is a good mother, someone who is a positive impact on you and others around you. Attractive, good sex, good chemistry. Ideally this person sticks with you because you are a value add to her as well, in ways that women are interested in. TRP has such a cynical view on relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:56 AM |
| 2 | As a man it's better to be a "husband material" than having random short term encountersOK. Some people want to have meaningful relationships instead o wasting their lives on pointless sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:53 AM |
| 3 | As a man it's better to be a "husband material" than having random short term encountersIntelligent people in good partnerships usually don't divorce. Most relationships that end in divorce are low class people, poor people, stupid people, etc. Divorce are much lower by upper class strata. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:52 AM |
| 4 | As a man it's better to be a "husband material" than having random short term encountersIf you want to LTR low quality women then sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 01:26 AM |
| 4 | As a man it's better to be a "husband material" than having random short term encountersCome on. Don't be dumb. It's stupid to assume I meant 100% of the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 01:26 AM |
| 1 | As a man it's better to be a "husband material" than having random short term encountersHow so? That's quite literally what a prenuptial agreement is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 12:50 AM |
| 3 | As a man it's better to be a "husband material" than having random short term encountersObviously that's an exception. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 12:49 AM |
| 2 | As a man it's better to be a "husband material" than having random short term encountersSo you're saying that the only partnership to you has obligations and penalties? That's great. You can enter a marriage with that too, if you want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/21 11:41 PM |
| 2 | As a man it's better to be a "husband material" than having random short term encountersI could turn that back on you. If you can get a high quality partner through an act that has no obligations or penalties, then why wouldn't you? It's all benefit, no downsides. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/21 11:16 PM |
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