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12

it's really hard to swallow some RP theory without seeing it firsthand. Haven't we all seen it all our lives and just trained ourselves to forgive, deny and keep searching for the unicorn?
/r/TheRedPill31/10/18 08:18 PM
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There are apps which guide you. Headspace has enough free content, there's also Calm. I'd also highly recommend yoga classes, Yin Yoga changed my life.
/r/seduction30/10/18 12:39 AM
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Maybe 1 for every few sentences. Not 😞 in 😖 between 🤓 every 💯 word 🔥
/r/seduction29/10/18 08:55 PM
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It's run by 3rd wave feminists with a strong agenda. So even standard blue pill people should see a problem with that.
/r/TheRedPill28/10/18 08:54 PM
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Sounds like she was just never attractive, not just the wall in play here. All that work she apparently put it wouldn't have include 5 hours per week in the gym, lets put it that way.
/r/TheRedPill28/10/18 08:50 PM
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Asking him is so weak, man. He sounds like a random classmate/hallmate at best. Worry about it after things happen. Worst case 'oh hey man, I remember you'.
/r/seduction27/10/18 12:22 PM
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I was working at my checkout/cashier job. She came through. She was the first girl who ever looked at me like she did. I.... did nothing. When I finished my shift I had a FB message though. "i see you all the time and is it ok if I add you?" talked a bit, she lived 5mins walk from my place, went over late at night a few times. Then I said some dumb things and she went to super creeped out. Basically I'd failed every single shit test. I must be good looking but creepy.
/r/seduction27/10/18 12:20 PM
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University and school give the best proximity to women which on its own is a big boost. But it's not when a guys highest potential is. They can't have accumulated the experience, status, skills and to some extent income when they're a 20yo frat boy.
/r/seduction26/10/18 10:09 PM
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Please read The Rational Male. The truth is deliberately hidden from men early in their life. What is that truth? That your late 30's are actually your prime, IF you made the most of your time leading up to them. You still have the majority of your looks, with added status, income and maturity. Why is it kept a secret? Because if any guy knew it, no way they would get married by 29 to some baby crazy woman who stops enjoying sex the moment the baby comes out and had already hit the wall at that …
/r/seduction26/10/18 10:00 PM
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Well you should be hitting the gym hard, and alcohol doesn't mix with that.. honestly give that shit up. As someone in my 30's I wish I could take back every dumb blackout night along with the trouble and shame most of them brought me. What can you do is not any more. Or do it when your friends aren't there. Cultivating a good IG feed might help too, doing stuff that isn't drinking. Show to people who know you that their impression of you being a 24/7 drunk isn't accurate because there you are o…
/r/seduction26/10/18 05:46 PM
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Just wish women could be more honest about rejection. We could go into great depths about why this is, but simply.. They have generally had bad reactions when being direct and don't want to risk it again. Some guys will blow up, and others will take it as an opportunity to 'argue' about why the girl should be attracted to them. You can't negotiate attraction. Imagine arguing with a 300 pound landwhale about why you don't want to do her. Unless that's already your fetish, I can't imagine you'd su…
/r/seduction26/10/18 05:42 PM
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(For those that aren't educated, when you have sex with a virgin, you break something called a hymen with your penis, which is like a skin that seals off their deeper insides - This can break on its own... Not having one left doesn't guarantee they've had sex
/r/TheRedPill26/10/18 03:35 AM
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Thats just a mini shit test IMO. "We'll get hot chocolate, see you at 8pm". Her answer to THAT would be the real rejection if it actually was going to be one.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/18 09:22 PM
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The Rational Male. If you haven't read that then don't come back to the sub until you have (just because it's that good)
/r/TheRedPill25/10/18 09:20 PM
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Observational opener. In fact you've got it easy. "Hey, I see you around all the time but we've never met. I'm John." Guage from her response whether to continue or whether you're about to get thrown off the train. Some people might hear and look, but so what? They'll forget it in 3 minutes.
/r/seduction25/10/18 11:55 AM
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Thats pretty wierd. And even in the subs where I've seen girls say they don't like being approached, they just find it mildly awkward. Could be a case of white knight-ism. If the girl looked uncomfortable the guys might have thought they'd get laid or look tough especially if they had seen you do any other approaches already. On the upside, now you can think 'this is as bad as it gets'!
/r/seduction25/10/18 11:50 AM
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No one cares what you're doing or where you are surely, you're overthinking it. Just say 'haha yeah just seeing the sights and partying' or something like that.
/r/seduction24/10/18 08:14 PM
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I was the beta to one of these girls once. I met her on tinder while I was on holiday. Wild curves, massive tits, 200 likes on any IG photo she posts of said tits. She spent the whole time telling me about how badly all the 'alpha' guys were breaking her heart, while I cuddled, listened intently, played with those tits then fucked her a few times. The sex was very mediocre and clearly just to keep me around for a few more nights. I know I lowered my standards of how I should be acting, but if I …
/r/TheRedPill24/10/18 01:08 PM
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It lowers your value but it's useful as a starter line for the guy who 'doesn't know what to say'. So its better than nothing, that's about it.
/r/seduction24/10/18 12:55 PM
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You have to make it more of a habit. Talk to everyone. When someone sits down nearby you can just say 'hey how's it going'. Maybe they'll want to keep chatting, maybe not. Don't only talk to (hot) girls either.
/r/seduction23/10/18 06:18 AM
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Not sure how you came to that conclusion from my post, did you come to the wrong sub? I don't think there's anything morally wrong with sleeping with anyone who's willing to do it with me, if I'm not lying about my intentions that is. If I act like a baby crazy cuck to get one night of sex that would be bad, but if it's a Tinder girl that's more cute than stunning, well she still gets what she wants? I currently don't go out of my way because I don't know if it's worth the time and effort, the r…
/r/askTRP22/10/18 12:23 AM
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She's fucked in the head. If you do add them you're risking flaking as well unless your profile is 100% rock solid. They're looking for excuses to filter you out, not talk themselves into it.
/r/seduction21/10/18 02:45 PM
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The blonde thing was just an example, I don't really have a 'type'. But I get the message.
/r/askTRP21/10/18 01:54 PM
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I knew this was going to be you before I even looked down at the username. I mean this in the nicest possible way, you need to stop posting on the internet and start talking to women in any way possible. Even if you think you're a -1/10, even if you shit your pants at the idea of saying hello, but I bet it's not as bad as you think. Even if you just ask for the time or directions to McDonalds or Starbucks for the whole day and nothing beyond that. You can write elaborate, lengthy posts here that…
/r/seduction21/10/18 11:33 AM
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You're posting here because you don't want her any more and you want us to agree with you, so actually you've already made up your mind. Yes the reality is you won't be swimming in hot girls when you break up with her and you could realistically have a 6 month dry spell, but that's all part of the game.
/r/askTRP21/10/18 11:11 AM
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Read 'The Power of Now'. There's no point focusing on the past. It's gone, it doesn't exist, it can't exist ever again even if you want it to. Where are you? You're NOW. NOW is the only time you can ever do anything. Focus all the energy that you're currently pointing towards the past, on what you're doing today to better your situation. You're working minimum wage? Well, what are you doing about that? You don't need teeth to earn more than minimum wage. Go to university and become a banker, hel…
/r/askTRP21/10/18 10:52 AM
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You shouldn't be thinking about tactics for 1 girl. You're already chasing her and she knows it (and you know it). Asking her if she likes you is so beta, begging for validation. Move on and go after other girls and she'll probably even start chasing you when she realises you haven't messaged for a while. Try to ignore her the next time she messages you (if she actually ever does again).
/r/askTRP21/10/18 10:39 AM
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I've been approached before long ago at my checkout job. The girl was almost a model but pretty much completely insane. I actually did fuck her before she screwed my beta self over. Things like that can happen in rare situations.
/r/askTRP21/10/18 10:26 AM
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I'm in IT at a hospital, but I feel like 'I work in public health' is almost a lie because they're going to think I might be a doctor, and if they do think that I've been dishonest. I know I can't say IT, but 'health admin' sounds pretty droll as well.
/r/askTRP21/10/18 10:24 AM
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Yep I have one the same. She won't stop touching me in person, but have I ever got a single reply to any contact? Maybe once. Delete her number IMO.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/18 03:25 AM
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Her sexual history is actually pretty much irrelevant. Why? Because 95% of girls have had sex with more guys than they will ever tell you about, and the ones who haven't are either hideously ugly or fucked in the head. They're getting approached 10 times per day for most of their early adulthood, with enough alpha guys that are their equivalent of an 'HB8' or better, so how can you have the double standard that they aren't allowed to go with someone they're actually attracted to? And can you see…
/r/TheRedPill20/10/18 12:34 PM
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Maybe you shouldn't have been playful about it earlier. You don't want it to be a running joke or acting like it's a good old laugh because then she doesn't feel like she did anything wrong. But yeah she completely disrespected you, laundry, fuck. Good move because you'd be played like a cat with a mouse toy if you continued. I guess what I'm saying is you might have needed a stronger frame before this night but I know on the other hand you do have to be a little bit flexible in case they are ge…
/r/seduction19/10/18 02:22 AM
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Last time a girl told me this, guess who was balls deep within 2 hours? ​ I just said 'ok' and came over at the agreed time. This shit test which is all it was, was not spoken of again.
/r/askTRP18/10/18 01:08 PM
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Dude if you don't try with girls for 2.5 years you will fucking regret it because university is like the only time girls are easily available and want to get laid. It dries up like a desert the day you graduate, trust me because I was a fucking loser during university and only now realise what I've blown. Out in the real world it's an uphill battle. If you have no friends by then, how is 2.5 years of angry lifting going to help? You'll be a jacked serial killer rapist. As if no chubby guy ever g…
/r/askTRP18/10/18 01:05 PM
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Read 'the power of now' and probably some other meditation type books. Basically if you can't change something (the past) why are you putting all your mental effort and energy into worrying about it? What can it ever achieve at all if you keep doing this (and it is a choice to keep doing it)? Seriously. Answer to me and yourself what you hope to gain by investing so much in a version of yourself that doesn't exist any more and can't ever exist again. Do everything right now, for the future, but …
/r/askTRP18/10/18 12:56 PM
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> Swipe and get as many matches as possible. If you live in a large city of 1 million+ residents and you have followed my above instructions, you WILL get multiple matches.You can filter for the girls you find attractive as the matches line up. I prefer to get 6-10 matches before I start messaging. ​ Oh, sweet summer child. I can't wait 6-10 months before I start messaging girls ;) This month's fatty who accidentally swiped me didn't reply anyway. Honestly/seriously, if you actually get matches …
/r/seduction18/10/18 12:29 PM
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> Swipe and get as many matches as possible. If you live in a large city of 1 million+ residents and you have followed my above instructions, you WILL get multiple matches.You can filter for the girls you find attractive as the matches line up. I prefer to get 6-10 matches before I start messaging. ​ Oh, sweet summer child. I can't wait 6-10 months before I start messaging girls ;) This month's fatty who accidentally swiped me didn't reply anyway. Honestly/seriously, if you actually get matches …
/r/seduction18/10/18 12:28 PM
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Well.. you can at least start having dates and trying to get a bit of escalation in successfully before you freak out about what happens later. Because if you haven't had dates before you aren't going to instantly get laid anyway, lets be honest. Once you are getting to the point of easily holding hands, kissing, stuff like that, then you can be pretty sure the girl will want to see you again, then you can organise a day 2 another time. Invite them over for a tour of your town (do this in a play…
/r/seduction18/10/18 12:21 PM
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Sounds a bit unnattural and delusional actually. The successful guys I know are definitely not like that all the time, they go through anger and frustration as well. ​ Isn't spewing only happiness out at women just what every guy does to try too hard at pleasing them?
/r/seduction18/10/18 12:15 PM
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The most useful thing I've found is doing it ESPECIALLY when you dont' want to. It's easy to go to the gym or hit the clubs when you already feel good and energetic. But when you really don't want to go? Oh, I'm so tired after work, I'll just go home and eat ice cream, just this once, just this time. NO. That's when it actually counts. Smash it anyway and destroy your body under that barbell and you'll feel so good by the end. Eventually it becomes second nature. You're not going because you're …
/r/TheRedPill18/10/18 12:10 PM
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Start to withdraw your attention. Ask for advice on other girls. Be unavailable.
/r/seduction17/10/18 08:18 AM
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Some guys never see it, so at least you have that
/r/TheRedPill15/10/18 09:47 AM
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I've been through the same except a girl I worked with. I knew the girl liked me due to how she looked at me and always talked with me. Then I got all nervous and made a Big Deal about it because I had to try to Make A Move. Basically, 'asking out' a girl in a serious way suddenly makes it a big decision for them, they're no longer going with the flow and having fun, you're putting everything on them. It makes you look weak.
/r/seduction15/10/18 04:39 AM
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Get a wingman from here or from any local pickup groups (most cities will have one), and get them to push you. It's definitely awkward at first but you'll be exhilarated after. Remember most guys will never do it and they'll be single until they settle for someone who just wants a baby and money donor - we can do better right? If it helps start off with just directions. Say you're just in the city for a few days and where's the best hamburger shop? Oh yeah, what else is worth seeing? Then say th…
/r/seduction14/10/18 01:38 AM
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Because I had had success with hot girls in the past with pure luck / they had approached me (in talking Instagram model type girls). So I knew I wasn't ugly. But since I was still too shy to approach mostly, I was relying on Tinder. And on Tinder I'd get 1 match per week and she'd be some 29 year old fatty desperate for marriage and kids, or some other kind of girl so unfortunate on the looks scale that I wouldn't want to meet her in public in case anyone saw. And that's what my life has become…
/r/seduction14/10/18 12:09 AM
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Since you have the looks to back it up (based on your very high number of matches anyway - I get about 1 per week), you can afford to be quite bold compared to the uglier guys who have to keep the girl amused by their personality or money, we have to actually do dates most of the time. Definitely avoid the dates if the girls seem down to fuck, you don't want to move yourself out of the sex zone into the 'dating' zone unless you're really after a girlfriend, which without a bit of experience you …
/r/seduction13/10/18 11:59 PM
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Deep down they know but are too scared of success to act , generally
/r/seduction09/10/18 05:12 AM
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To find beta males willing to pay them, which is the only guys who would NEED to use it.
/r/seduction07/10/18 10:59 AM
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some stupid rule in her head It's 'negotiating attraction', i.e. the real desire isn't there. It doesn't mean she is fcked in the head in every case (although in this case she admitted she is bipolar), it just means she is testing how much he will compromise his own desires to try to get laid, i.e. how much of a beta faggot he is.
/r/seduction07/10/18 06:28 AM
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It's just depressing for me. If I actually took to heart what tinder is telling me, I must be a homeless alcoholic with 1 leg and pustules on my face, because I only match with, well, no one. But if I go out to a pub, it's pretty easy to get talking to a few cute girls during the night even without much game. Tinder is only worth it if you have model tier looks otherwise the return on the time spent is so miniscule that there has to be something better to do with that time, whether it's study so…
/r/seduction06/10/18 02:29 PM
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I kind of see the girl perspective from the following experience. In Thailand as a pale guy, I matched with basically 50+ girls per day, like I just swiped a few hot ones, matched them all then had to stop so I wasn't overwhelmed with choices.. All of a sudden I'm not thinking 'hmm, I guess I'd fuck her just because I haven't had sex for 6 months even though she's way below my standards', I'm thinking 'I have a choice between all these 8's so I won't swipe right on any fatties and I'll delete an…
/r/seduction06/10/18 02:25 PM
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Read the sidebar. You wouldn't ask for a coffee in the first sentence, you find something to start talking about and then run from there, maybe it's just about the coffee shop line you're both in or her crazy hair. And forget any feminist shit the media throws down your throat because it doesn't represent reality. Even better, read The Rational Male. More mindblowing than any other sexuality book I've come across. Bottom line yes you approach because you want to have sex with a girl. She knows t…
/r/seduction03/10/18 10:12 PM
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I'm not sure what to tell you when it's handed on such a platter. Just realise at a certain point 'this is my chance', and then also that if you don't take the chance then you get nothing, so what's the worst that can happen? You somehow misread the situation and she freaks out? That never happens when the girl is that obvious.. When you're already getting all the signs this is actually a sign that she was ready long ago and now she may as well be yelling at you to hurry up and do it.
/r/seduction01/10/18 12:28 PM
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Did you get any dates at all back home? This is where filtering comes in I guess. You have to set the frame where you're there to hang out and fuck, not spend money on them. If your frame is solid, they'll either enter it or make themselves scarce when they realised you aren't a free weekly restaurant subscription.
/r/seduction21/09/18 07:54 AM
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A shit date would be where you wasted hours and she wasn't interested.
/r/seduction12/09/18 06:39 PM
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Literally the reason why most guys are here is because they've gone with 'just be yourself' for 18 years and never got laid
/r/seduction26/08/18 12:35 AM
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It gets rid of beta fedora faggots who say to themselves 'oh ok, I won't bother the fair maiden'. It also says "guys pump and dump me regularly, I don't really want that but I'm a slut so I have to stop them doing it somehow but not by stopping being a slut because I really am one"
/r/askTRP24/08/18 11:24 AM
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Maybe he means 165 which is still novice (me sadly)
/r/TheRedPill24/08/18 12:54 AM
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Tell yourself that if you want. But you're just avoiding what you truly want. I'll take the girls that you are convincing yourself you can't get.
/r/seduction15/08/18 02:25 PM
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Can confirm. I had a girl who never replied to my texts ever, but I'd see her in person sometimes and she'd be all over me. Called her up one night and after that she'd start texting me. I guess it sets you up as a real person. Any beta dweeb or Bob Vegana can say 'hey how are you' in an IG DM, but you become the guy who has the courage to actually engage her a bit.
/r/seduction15/08/18 01:33 PM
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Thai girls love to fuck, don't worry about it. She wouldn't meet you if she didn't definitely want a one nighter.
/r/seduction10/08/18 04:16 PM
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> I have had females insist that I forcibly remove unattractive guys who barely touched them I've been on the wrong end of that back when I was a badly dressed beta. And of course the bouncer wants any excuse to beat someone up so how can one even argue most of the time? But I tried anyway: "why would I have 'groped' 2 girls I've never seen before (until you grabbed me by the neck and pointed them out) and can honestly say I'm not attracted to anyway?"
/r/TheRedPill10/08/18 03:48 PM
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Yep, or zinc tablets do basically the same thing as that's what part gives the aphrodisiac effect. I've been with a girl and been tired / barely able to get it up. Slammed 2 zinc pills and her eyes popped out of her head over how rock hard I was and how many times I smashed that night. Too much info?
/r/seduction06/08/18 01:33 PM
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Eh, all the symptoms of that which I googled was what I have without the tuna. So a can a day suits me for now.
/r/seduction06/08/18 01:32 PM
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Yep that's it. They know what you want, and they let it happen if they want to. If they don't, it's as simple as 'I have to go home now, I have work early' or any other excuse. They know not to let things get near a bedroom. If they are willing to come near your place/bedroom then 90% of the time it's on.
/r/seduction06/08/18 01:18 PM
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Not quite what you're asking but magnesium and fish oil. Magnesium gives me the best sleep of my life and once I started eating a small tin of tuna (or more) per day my anxiety almost completely went away. Obviously I must have been a bit deficient in fish oil or something, but yeah make sure you have the basics down pat.
/r/seduction05/08/18 02:32 PM
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You probably are actually. Even when I was clueless I had this said to me once, so I just said ok, resumed making out and the rest was history.
/r/seduction04/08/18 05:16 AM
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I'm pretty sure handsome is like a consolation prize of compliments. It's not the same as them saying they are attracted to you. The last few girls who called me handsome were never in any hurry to sleep with me, that's for sure
/r/seduction25/07/18 07:24 AM
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Those moisturiser / face cream booth girls are all the same, man. Worse than strippers in convincing you that they like you.
/r/seduction22/07/18 12:44 PM
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Be 'busy' when she puts out the feelers. She's checking that you're waiting at her beck and call, which you are. I'd probably flat out block her for a few weeks so you aren't tempted at all to reply. Unblock at the end but still wait for her. But overall just move on. She's a timewaster.
/r/seduction19/07/18 02:26 PM
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...And that's as bad as it gets, most of the time. However, I'll comment on the vibe I'm getting from your post. > And she was a 6 at best. The only women I know who are like this are dumb as nails. Sounds like you're being butthurt and trying to bring her down without knowing her, yet you're the one that approached her. Important: She doesn't owe you anything at all. Don't fall into the anger trap because that's a 'Nice Guy' vibe. Laugh about it and move onto the next.
/r/seduction15/07/18 09:01 AM
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Work on length and quality of the interaction. The first thing I found was that I had 'continuation anxiety'. I would approach, and after a few sentences I would freeze and 'ok, nice to meet you anyway' and bail because I wasn't sure what to do next with the interaction. So obviously I got nowhere. Having an interaction where the girl feels like she connects with you is just as important as getting ~10 digits saved into your phone. I've also found that pretty much any girl will hand out her numb…
/r/seduction15/07/18 08:56 AM
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Ignore the boyfriend shit and get her to meet you. The words coming out of her mouth clearly don't match with her feelings.
/r/seduction15/07/18 08:52 AM
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My wingman who has SOME low level results walks the same way as them and gets a little bit ahead of them, so he can kind of slow them down while meeting them side-on.
/r/seduction15/07/18 08:51 AM
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How does a bad word affect a dead body?
/r/TheRedPill06/07/18 01:37 AM
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I had a Thai girl who I met in Australia who seemed completely over the moon with me. Visited her about once or twice a year, great nympho sex and fun hanging out. But in the back of my mind I thought it could be a long con that would cost me $10k+ in visa fees and probably a similar lifetime of sadness if I did get screwed over just for a visa. While her family was rich enough for it to be unlikely (they owned 2 houses and 2 cars so probably better off than me), I knew that was the turning poin…
/r/TheRedPill06/07/18 01:12 AM
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Someone explained it much better in another thread. If they blame the girl, they are admitting their girl was a cheating whore. If they blame the guy, they can 'eliminate' anything wrong and continue on and not blame the only girl in the world who will sleep with them for doing anything wrong. Hamstering, as it were.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/18 10:49 AM
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I've done this before without quite knowing what I was doing and I still pulled it off to some extent. All I knew was beta shit like 'nice guys finish last'. But then I found 'the hat' at a nightclub. It was this frat bro type baseball cap that someone dropped, and I was half drunk already, so I put it on, backwards. Wouldn't it be hilarious if I just acted like some frat bro for the night, I pondered? 'The hat' was my persona for the night. I'd lend 'the hat' to my friends at opportune moments …
/r/TheRedPill29/06/18 11:05 AM
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Also, girls are more likely to give their IG than their phone number, because they can always block you and/or unfollow you if things don't work out. I've never had a problem getting a number from a girl I've asked, even if they are obviously reluctant and not into me and I was only asking for the practise of doing so. If you're doing that badly that they won't give their number out, how on earth is a few IG photos going to help you?
/r/seduction29/06/18 12:52 AM
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Download headspace, its for absolute beginners. Alternatively go to a yoga place and do a few different classes with different teachers, and you'll figure out a few interpretations of it.
/r/TheRedPill23/06/18 11:39 AM
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Dude, 26? Men hit their prime mid 30s and don't decline much until way after that. I've known plenty of 40something guys getting girls in their 20's. I first got laid at 23 and since then nearly every girl was hotter than the last. I think you're just posting for attention and pity, reality is you don't need to give up. You still have the testosterone to gain plenty of muscle in the gym, so come on man. Start the approaches and pretend you're 21. You can get the same girls any other normal guy c…
/r/seduction11/06/18 07:45 PM
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Lots of girls like attention and pretending they want to meet you is the easiest way to string you along for a little longer. This is why it's a common rule to use text only for planning real world meetups. She can probably sense that you're overinvested in her, and if as you say she's not that attractive she's probably wondering why. She's probably got someone else and you kept her amused for a few weeks at the time, it's just what girls do. Find 3 more to focus on and you'll forget about her.
/r/seduction10/06/18 03:22 PM
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I've been in the exact situation of waiting for a train and noticed a cute girl next to me. All I said was 'hey, been waiting long?'. And it just flowed from there. Dumb line, but anything works better than staring at the floor and regretting it. Girls give you a few chances but they won't open you. If the girl is halfway receptive she will put some effort into the conversation once you open. Got her number within the 10 minutes it took to get to my station, and had her in my bed the next weeken…
/r/TheRedPill05/06/18 09:22 AM
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Yep. If I go out to 'daygame' then I just wander around in fear unable to even approach a fatty to ask where starbucks is because of all the expectations and trying to run through what comes next after the opener like DHV and negs and all that. If I go out with a friend to a bar and am just hanging out and a girl 'bumps into me' I will start talking like I've known her for years and probably get a number 1/4 of the time if I actually want to. When it's an 'approach' it's suddenly this Big Thing …
/r/TheRedPill05/06/18 09:18 AM
1

It fulfills the goal he was asking about, even if it is a 'dirty' way of doing it. Can be easier for guys who haven't worked their way up to eating huge meals too, or those on a budget.
/r/TheRedPill05/06/18 09:08 AM
9

Milk is high on protein and fats, so a few litres of that per day (on top of real food meals)
/r/TheRedPill03/06/18 09:16 AM
2

Never listen to a girl's advice, please. That's the first rule of pickup and reality. Imagine if her statement was actually true? lol. Even I've picked up from cold approach before, so blanket statements like 'we hate it' are completely false. They hate being approached by guys they aren't attracted to, sure, but there's only one way to find out for sure.
/r/seduction03/06/18 01:30 AM
1

Get a wingman, you can find a facebook group for your town like 'RSD Inner Circle - BurgerTown' or similar. Ask in there and you'll get some replies. It is an uphill battle to go alone as a beginner because you have no momentum or much idea what to do and you'll end up walking in, standing awkwardly then leaving feeling worse. Second, find somewhere quieter. Some bars and streets are just bad for it, I went to several last week and one was a crowded noisy place where all the guys were 7 foot tal…
/r/seduction02/06/18 01:59 PM
5

The dick pic would be to extort you. "I'll message this to all your fb friends unless you send bitcoin.."
/r/TheRedPill01/06/18 06:43 PM
1

post this to askTRP..
/r/TheRedPill01/06/18 06:37 PM
33

I knew one girl who was a backpacker here in Australia, basically a chubby alcoholic. She went back to Canada and was a 'personal trainer' all of a sudden, which seemed to involved posting photos of herself in a sports bra and #blessed. So fucking annoying.
/r/TheRedPill31/05/18 02:42 PM
5

This is a good or bad thing depending on their age. If they're ~30's themselves then you're the beta provider..
/r/seduction31/05/18 01:15 PM
2

It's a tough question to answer but I think you have to focus on the underlying concepts that each method is actually using. Emotional spikes, teasing, abundance mentality, physical escalation at the right time, logistics, being able to game a group and understand group dynamics. All of that is similar / required for success no matter who teaches it. I'm sure girls know what's up with mystery method because he still approaches and invests a lot of time (seriously it sounds made up nonsense to me…
/r/seduction27/05/18 11:27 AM
2

If you're trying her a 3rd time you've already lost. And she's so openly playing you now that even talking to her is failing a shit test.
/r/seduction27/05/18 11:22 AM
1

I think they generally always drop eventually, so you should be trying to get more. Even if they don't drop on their own, by trying to land others, you'll project such an abundance mentality that you won't give a fuck about their shit, which currently you clearly do since you have to ask for advice about it.
/r/seduction27/05/18 11:21 AM
7

Cold approaches wherever you go, and hobbies (sports, yoga etc)
/r/seduction27/05/18 03:25 AM
2

Well, I come from a similar background and have mostly killed off that old part of me. You really just have to practice, get out a few times per week, and reading material does help, as long as you're reading stuff you don't know and internalising it without reading 500 different conflicting blogs about advanced material you aren't ready for yet. Here's my take - body language is a form of communication and arguably more than 50% of all communication. Tone of your voice and what you say are prob…
/r/seduction27/05/18 03:02 AM
0

Have you been diagnosed with autism? Because it sounds like that's the issue from your posts. Human interaction doesn't run from a script, because they're never going to react how you expected, then your next carefully prepared line doesn't make sense. You really can't fake 'alpha' traits (cocky, non-outcome dependent). I can come up and meekly say the words 'h-hi, you're c-cute, my name is j-j-john' while hunched over and not looking at the girl, and it's going to have a completely different ef…
/r/seduction26/05/18 04:02 AM
1

I don't understand the point of making up some completely unbelievable bullshit. Even a porno doesn't go like that. If the girls both flaked or your date was awkward and they really only wanted to pat your dog, just say that. Even the most novice virgins aren't going to think this is real.
/r/seduction26/05/18 02:59 AM
2

Along with the messages they sent it almost sounds like you are making it up. But good work, you probably don't need much help from here! Smash 1 or both!
/r/seduction25/05/18 03:37 AM
2

Hey, I have been overseas for a few weeks then sick for 2 weeks. I didn't post much in that time. I pretty much never check PMs if you've sent any, I just have far too many notifications from thread replies all the time to bother clicking on that 500+ number and filtering through stuff there. So while I'm not ignoring you or anything, I'm not sure what will have changed in this time, you're going to have to try something and you know it otherwise you wouldn't keep posting, and that something is …
/r/seduction21/05/18 08:04 AM
2

Most of that is just excuses that aren't true. As an Australian, yes, I think it is a bit harder than most places in the world. But you're not TRULY making the effort, you're whining. Are there no girls in your classes? Are there no girls at the cafe at lunch time? You haven't mentioned finding wings and going out - if you're in Syd, Melb or Bris there are countless fb groups to find them in. If you're in Melb I can probably add you to one of them. And dating apps, again if you're in any of the …
/r/seduction21/05/18 02:59 AM
1

Settle in, get comfortable, start to cuddle almost straight away and kiss within 10-20 minutes. Doesn't sound like much can go wrong anyhow
/r/seduction18/05/18 07:01 AM
3

The alternative is to not do it, and as they say insanity is repeating the same thing expecting different results. I put off approaching for years and essentially made no progress for those years. You can't read or whine your way to success. Put yourself out there, get into the terrifying approach situation where you're almost shitting your pants. That's the situation where you actually grow.
/r/seduction04/05/18 03:34 AM
2

That might be worse since a lot of guys get 1 match per week
/r/seduction04/05/18 03:33 AM
1

So basically 1 through to 5...
/r/seduction04/05/18 02:21 AM
53

Seems if you point out double standards / anything to do with reality it's dismissed as 'shaming', 'mansplaining', or you 'just don't get it'.
/r/TheRedPill03/05/18 12:39 PM
2

Cheap content farmed rubbish tbh.
/r/seduction03/05/18 09:22 AM
1

Its content farm junk, i.e. they paid someone $5 to write 500 or 1000 words.
/r/seduction03/05/18 09:22 AM
2

Generic fluff written by a content farm. This sub, I tell you..
/r/seduction03/05/18 09:21 AM
3

It's not just 1 girl though. Perhaps he can post the screenshots of the most recent one.
/r/seduction03/05/18 08:06 AM
4

As the other poster said girls aren't looking for a boyfriend really. They know they can get heaps of sex from everyone so they don't need to lock it down. Unless you're the best. The last time I ended up with a girlfriend was a girl who was only in my country for a few months, she definitely just wanted to fuck at first, but after a few weeks she admitted she really liked me and wanted to be with me. If you DO find a girl that is actually looking for a boyfriend and she's under about 28 then I'…
/r/seduction02/05/18 09:21 PM
1

This isn't AMOG at all. They were actually jealous betas trying to bring you down and it didn't actually work by the sounds of it. AMOG would be if they stole a girl you were with or something.. Sounds like you did ok as they were mocking someone who wasn't giving a fuck about things at the time, and the girl obviously wasn't impressed. You could have just went up to them, talked in a friendly way like they hadn't acted like cunts, and the girl would probably give you her number without asking i…
/r/seduction30/04/18 01:55 PM
8

Building social momentum is the term for it I believe.
/r/TheRedPill29/04/18 11:56 AM
43

I had an acquaintance who was a fat nerd in high school. Like WoW 19 hours a day type nerd. He didn't even get the social skills of a mangy rabid dog, when most of the rest of us figured out adult life eventually. Next thing you know he's wearing a dress and taking hormones. I see it as a cry for help / knowing he can't change in any short time to anything a woman would go near, so becoming a victim of the patriarchy is now his identity. Any facebook post is a whine about how life is so unfair. …
/r/TheRedPill29/04/18 11:53 AM
1

No one will read this who isn't already 110% convinced sadly. But they do have the choice.
/r/TheRedPill29/04/18 10:38 AM
3

when I reapproached her later in the night, it was too late. Yep. Not approaching is subtly communicating that you are a pussy, you are knocked down quite a bit on the social scale in her eyes and can't really redeem it once you fail that 'test' at the time.
/r/seduction28/04/18 08:23 PM
1

Read mystery method. It's quite outdated now and some of the stuff you don't do (like carry around a set of photos to run a routine) but it has examples of stuff like very subtle negs.
/r/seduction28/04/18 08:21 PM
1

Make up a cool story about how it means ancient warrior or something cool. Or just say Ian and roll with that so you can skip the awkward part.
/r/seduction16/04/18 10:24 PM
1

Not clubs or pubs it isn't ...
/r/seduction16/04/18 10:20 PM
3

Find me a real life girl who is attractive, normal, and uses Reddit. Then you realise there is no such thing. It's just fatties posting in /r/relationships and the chromosomes one.
/r/seduction15/04/18 10:31 AM
2

I'll try that if I get a match this year..
/r/seduction09/04/18 08:20 PM
4

You're not on a hook-up site for hook-ups? Why every girl pretend this like anyone's going to believe it
/r/seduction08/04/18 10:21 PM
3

Sex for women is used as a form of "let's keep this high value guy around." If a guy doesn't look like relationship material, he won't be getting laid, simple as that. That part is wrong. Yes it's a tool for that if they want it to be, but they are allowed to just want sex with no consequences. Many girls given the right circumstances really don't want a relationship. Tinder wouldn't exist if that was the case. They can just be horny. I've probably been 'used' by girls more often than they've ac…
/r/seduction08/04/18 06:31 AM
5

Here in Australia it doesn't seem to be a thing. Maybe it's just Americans. I've had some girls railroad the date into dinner rather than drinks, but they still wanted to pay for themselves at the end. The only time I paid recently was at a $10 Thai place where the girl I was with was really young so she would have only earned that much per hour so I was the one offering.
/r/seduction08/04/18 04:48 AM
1

Most or all girls would do this to some extent when a better guy comes along. Just go for it man. She's going to fuck the next decent guy who comes along now anyway, so it may as well be you.
/r/seduction07/04/18 02:36 PM
6

Then I explain that I'm in my 30s and can't pull my weight in life, and yet I still get suggestions to approach anyway. I think the concept makes some sense--trying can't hurt--the problem is the reality of it. How am I going to go from meeting some chick to getting a date and getting some action--all of these steps--with the kind of life and disability I have? Does anyone look at the odds? The other side of this reality is that you have to do something if you want anything to change. Just to pu…
/r/seduction07/04/18 02:34 PM
6

I paid for boost on tinder and switched my location to a city in Asia where I'm considered attractive. Swipe swipe swipe, and go to bed. Next day, 100+ matches. I assume there are plenty of average girls there who would be great fun. But how many do I have time to meet when I'm there? And why am I going to bother when there are ones that are so hot they make my heart skip a beat when I see their pics? I've barely looked at most of them, and if they talk to me and aren't the hottest I'm concentra…
/r/seduction07/04/18 01:33 PM
2

But they do identify as MTGOW.
/r/TheRedPill31/03/18 11:53 PM
3

I go a 2nd one a few days later, even though it is more needy than not doing it, I figure she's already gone anyway so it can't actually make things worse.
/r/seduction31/03/18 10:12 AM
1

Most of them smell like they just rolled in their own shit at a zoo, too :/
/r/TheRedPill29/03/18 09:51 PM
-1

He isn't using it as an insult, and if you're even in this sub then you don't WANT to be a virgin so what is there to be offended about? The advice is very true. If you're hung up on any girl that you don't already know intimately, then you already lost.
/r/seduction28/03/18 12:10 PM
5

He isn't using it as an insult, and if you're even in this sub then you don't WANT to be a virgin so what is there to be offended about? The advice is very true. If you're hung up on any girl that you don't already know intimately, then you already lost.
/r/seduction28/03/18 12:10 PM
1

It's all stupid but it works, otherwise the book wouldn't exist. Just don't use all the same lines or wear a fuzzy hat.
/r/seduction28/03/18 12:03 PM
49

She's not really your girlfriend if you guys aren't having sex. Go find other girls - she's most likely fucking several other guys (the harsh truth, you're there for the cuddling and listening to her whine).
/r/seduction25/03/18 09:15 AM
7

Lol. Very wrong indeed.
/r/seduction25/03/18 07:16 AM
1

If you go to a club it's guys who are confident and attractive compared to the neckbeards who aren't there. You don't see the guys that rock up alone, lurk in the corner then go home and never try again. But they're the 99%. And it's not 99% anyway, maybe like 80/20.
/r/seduction24/03/18 05:08 AM
1

Boyfriend can mean anything. Often just a test to see how you react and whether you instantly give up. Escalate a bit next time and you'll know where you're really at.
/r/seduction24/03/18 01:28 AM
7

Onezeeonezeetwoextwoexthreeseethreeseefourveefourvee, I'd assume.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/18 12:21 AM
2

Cold approach is about shortcutting the social proof and status. It's sort of completely faking it - giving the impression that you're high status because if you didn't then you wouldn't be confident enough to meet her and show intent. How you dress and look plays some part in the overall impression. Many girls I've been with never knew much about my relatively small friends circle early on, so they never would have thought I was some leader, alpha or anything like that. Maybe to some girls in p…
/r/seduction23/03/18 09:49 AM
2

I can't guarantee it, but I haven't got laid for about 4 years back home, but every time in Thailand 2-3 girls in a few weeks. So I feel like I'm going from about generally being a 3/10 to a 7/10 at least just through this cultural/location shift. You could download ThaiFriendly, set your location to Bangkok, put up a few good pictures and see if any girls start contacting you. You can pretty much just pretend you're already there. I'm 31 and getting 18-26 year olds saying 'I really hope you mee…
/r/seduction19/03/18 08:38 AM
2

They probably don't mean that, lots of women go to Vegas to let loose, there's the old saying 'what happens in Vegas stays in vegas'. My friend goes there once a year to game and much like my Thailand trips gets about 1 year worth of sex in 2 weeks. There are just so many massive clubs full 24 hours a day with young people partying, and normally conservative girls will be up for instant sex or even threesomes (if this guy's stories are accurate, mostly I think they are).
/r/seduction18/03/18 05:32 AM
2

Go on. I can tell you want help, I only sound hostile/angry because you are just rehashing the same 'no hope'. Your mindset of having no hope is actually probably the biggest barrier you have.
/r/seduction18/03/18 05:23 AM
2

Vietnam is a completely different ball game, far more closed off to the world and western media, and much more conservative. It would take some real game to get far there, though I am going to try my luck next month after Thailand. Most girls in Vietnam will live with their families until they get married, holding hands in public is too much, they mostly purely want marriage once they're about 23 or older. As an example, the law says a Vietnamese girl can't go into a hotel room with a foreigner …
/r/seduction18/03/18 05:15 AM
2

See, you want to, you just don't know what will happen next or don't think you can succeed. Try to look at just doing it as the success. They often seem attracted to me as well, maybe because indian guys are 95% gross beta orbiters who can't shave or wash (sounds racist but here in Australia it's the truth). Just think about something you can ask one of them next time. If they walk their dog that's an easy one. Walk up and say 'that dog's so cute, I have to pat it!' then ask a bit about the dog …
/r/seduction18/03/18 05:08 AM
4

Wait till you try Thailand then. I paid for boost + location change to Bangkok and swiped my heart out, came back to 130+ matches the next day. (Tinder in my case)
/r/seduction17/03/18 10:48 PM
1

Dude. If you have enough money to do so, take a trip to Thailand. Wherever you are in the world it would only run you $1000 at the most for plane tickets and the rest of your expenses for a couple of weeks. You might be able to get some reference experiences there that shatter your beliefs. I'd meet you there and try to help you if you could get there during mid April. I'm not talking about paying anyone either. In Thailand you pretty much just be white and turn up. The girls are for some reason…
/r/seduction17/03/18 02:05 AM
1

I feel like I'm already looking around scanning the room too much as it is though :S
/r/seduction17/03/18 01:37 AM
1

Cliff notes for anyone who doesn't have time to watch 30 minutes or more of rambling?
/r/seduction16/03/18 07:30 PM
1

I was out doing night game for the first time a few weeks ago. My wingman pointed out girls checking me out so many times and I would have noticed none of them.
/r/seduction16/03/18 07:19 PM
3

Never listen to women's advice, because what they say they want and what actually turns them on is different. Logically you should have a nice job, car, house, but emotionally that guy can be a boring worker drone who dries her up. Saying they don't want to be approached, well, that's because they do get approached by guys who are creepy or weird and it probably does get annoying 5+ times per day if they're hot. If you manage to be the guy she's attracted to, she won't care how it happened. It's…
/r/seduction16/03/18 05:20 AM
1

RSD don't have the best reputation, so yeah anyone googling it would think you basically took a course in rape.
/r/seduction16/03/18 05:12 AM
3

Before I even read this sub I approached a girl at the train station. I didn't know what 'pickup' was but she was cute and somehow a week later she was in my bed. BUT SHE WANTED TO BE LEFT ALONE RIGHT
/r/seduction16/03/18 12:46 AM
7

Walking up them and saying hi. Buying a drink sets the frame that you are lower value and you need to buy her time. And it's all downhill from there.
/r/seduction16/03/18 12:45 AM
3

Warm up asking for directions or just compliment something about them and walk away.
/r/seduction15/03/18 08:53 PM
1

Are you asking if you should bother getting laid where it's going to be the easiest ever chance to do so? .....
/r/seduction15/03/18 08:50 PM
3

The alternative is to stay the same, and if you aren't happy with that, why bother living? You don't type like someone who is supposedly so disabled, in fact you seem to just be obsessed with identifying as this helpless husk and putting so much effort into that. You need to reframe all your thoughts. Then even try to forget all pickup stuff you've read. And just start with the basics. Aren't you able in some capacity to just talk to someone, be friendly, and try to connect with them in some way…
/r/seduction15/03/18 12:20 PM
1

I've written pages trying to encourage him and tell him how I've personally improved from zero (not that i'm in the same position as he'll surely point out). But that's the answer. Do something or shut up, there aren't many more options.
/r/seduction15/03/18 12:10 PM
1

No. It's practising public speaking.
/r/seduction12/03/18 12:29 PM
1

Dude, you're following me just to point at yourself as a victim over and over again? What do you hope to achieve? Look at some of the RSD guys. A few of them are heavily autistic and slaying hundreds of girls per year. There is always someone far worse than you who has made it. Even if it took them 5-10 years. Why bother posting if you are intent on having no chance at all? Why even open the sub to start with? There are girls for everyone even if you aren't a social butterfly, too. Cold approach…
/r/seduction12/03/18 08:43 AM
1

It'd be cool if you explain some of the challenges you did. But yeah it's rarely as bad as you think. It sounds like that chick might flake, but you did kinda push persistently for the number and show that you aren't going to bombard her with messages or anything so that's good. I have got the 'facebook' thing from some girls and I pretty much say I don't really use that, what's your number? I actually think it's a shit test of sorts. Some wimpy guys will be so glad to just get anything and not …
/r/seduction12/03/18 04:02 AM
2

As a guideline though, if you meet up on several of what you think are 'dates' and it's been that long..
/r/seduction11/03/18 02:12 PM
20

Much of what you posted shows that you have been a bit brainwashed by media and extreme feminism. Sure, you might just run into someone like in a movie when you both run around the corner and crash into each other, and as you pick up her papers you notice she's the perfect 10 and your eyes lock and you go on a date and get married and live happily ever after. However, the reality is very different and you know it. Women have so much choice, almost infinite choice due to apps like tinder. Like mo…
/r/seduction11/03/18 02:03 PM
5

I have to agree, the first one was more than a shit test, she just wasn't interested, not sure what you expected to happen. And 2nd, I dunno, just go outside for 15 minutes and do some meditative breathing or something. And learn to laugh about it. When girls do stuff like that you can say something to her friends like 'is she always like this?' as a way of showing that it didn't phase you and at the same time calling her out.
/r/seduction11/03/18 01:42 PM
1

You talk to people, you connect with them somehow, then you do more stuff with them together. Meetup.com is a very good start actually.
/r/seduction11/03/18 01:28 PM
1

I think best would have been to just say 'ok cool, have fun there'.
/r/seduction10/03/18 01:04 PM
1

Turning down the dance should really be taken the same way as 'fuck off'. The fact that you didn't get this means they had to spell it out to you in no unclear terms.
/r/seduction10/03/18 12:50 PM
3

Yep, all true. For a complete beginner who still believes blue pill stuff like buying women roses works or that 'women only like rich/good looking guys', then they'll gain heaps from reading 1-2 books like Models or Mystery Method. After that, the marginal benefit drops to almost zero. And I'm guilty of doing the same, for nearly 4 years. What a waste. Get out in the field, because if you are scared of talking to girls or you know otherwise what your sticking point is (it might be showing your i…
/r/seduction10/03/18 11:53 AM
3

Are you actually getting the girls? Don't worry, your ego will get a check at some point.
/r/seduction08/03/18 08:02 AM
1

I came here thinking it would be bad but it's still a good outline to follow.
/r/seduction05/03/18 08:25 PM
7

Is this challenge listed somewhere or did you make up your own?
/r/TheRedPill05/03/18 02:28 PM
2

If only it was as easy as finding some girl attractive and saying "nice boobs" in a subtle, confident manner. And taking things from there. Well, hopefully you don't think that's literally what it's like. More like approach from where she can see you (not behind), smile and say 'hey, I'm John'. Then something observational, like you like her dress or those heels must be really hard to walk in (do not neg anything about her at this point IMO). In my case when the Japanese girl approached me, we j…
/r/seduction05/03/18 11:47 AM
1

That too, but if you're alone together the girl usually knows what's going on and will have made an excuse to leave before then if she isn't at least partly into the idea of sex. Almost no girl ever is so easy that there isn't a tiny bit of resistance.
/r/seduction04/03/18 12:20 PM
2

Are you going out often? You don't have to spend much money if that's an issue. Have you been to any local pickup seminars? I have met several great wingmen from going to the freebie seminars in my city (where they try to sell you bootcamps). Honestly I can't know what it's like to have your issues, but you're here on this sub, so deep down you want to do something. There just aren't really any ways to bypass the work that is needed. You have to get out whether its night game or daygame, and lea…
/r/seduction04/03/18 12:19 PM
2

Hmm, well as a beginner I find girls pretty much walk away or I'm completely invisible in clubs. In daytime they're at least civil and sometimes positively friendly.
/r/seduction04/03/18 12:06 PM
9

An often mentioned comeback to that is apparently 'why are you so attracted to players?'.
/r/seduction04/03/18 12:04 PM
9

Yes, hang out with people who are like what you want to be. Maybe do some day game on the weekend somewhere like a shopping mall so that if you mess up you aren't known as 'that guy' at school. Start off with something like asking 5 people where starbucks is. Then ask 5 more people, but make sure they're all hot girls. Then ask them which coffee shops they recommend, and what's their favourite drink. Then the next 5, compliment them on something like their clothing or hair. Basically keep pushin…
/r/seduction04/03/18 12:02 PM
1

Say they're meeting you later or that they all stayed home.
/r/seduction04/03/18 12:00 PM
5

If you can dance, and you have a few sociable wingmen with you, clubs are ok. Easier to get 1 nighters, but lasting relationships, fairly unlikely.
/r/seduction04/03/18 02:23 AM
2

You never truly know whether 'popular' things on reddit are really popular, or someone just paid an indian botting company $1000 to send it to the top. I have read several equally good books in the last year which nobody in the sub has ever mentioned; why is this one so famous?
/r/seduction04/03/18 02:15 AM
1

Numbers on their own aren't great. I had a girl approach ME during the week, she was getting really physical, and I got her number. Sure thing, right? Nope, she never replied (except for the first time I messaged to say it's me - so I know the number is real!). Work on the quality of the interaction and how much of a connection you have, as that will make numbers twice as valuable. It's great that you're getting them, just don't make it the end goal.
/r/seduction04/03/18 02:06 AM
29

Just gotta get over that stupid internal voice that causes me to overanalyse the approach. That's it, a common rule is approach within 3 seconds before you can come up excuses. And as for analysing afterwards, well, the more you do it the more 'natural' you will be during the sets. So just be glad you did it, while 90% of other guys nursed a beer all night and didn't talk to 1 girl. I agree with clubs not being great for some of us. Day game seems more 'natural' because there is no alcohol, less…
/r/seduction04/03/18 02:03 AM
3

Um, he does talks in real life, so how does that work?
/r/seduction04/03/18 12:27 AM
1

Have you ever left the house?
/r/seduction04/03/18 12:25 AM
1

This guy posts a lot of fake shit, it's just sad.
/r/seduction04/03/18 12:22 AM
3

It sounds like you're basically saying give up and don't bother. Come on man, your posts are so defeatist. You're just looking for people to tell you 'yep, there's no hope, we may as well just die'. I'm in this for the long haul to make life worth living. Like I have, admit to yourself that yep, the odds are against us but we just have to get out there and try until we succeed, with every unsuccessful interaction being a learning experience. I learn something from each interaction and I don't ch…
/r/seduction03/03/18 05:48 AM
1

You're spot on. My schedule is basically work, school, home (AND WORK) then repeat. I'm not even going out much right now. I did that for 2 years and only just got out of the rut now. Set a realistic goal like 2 nights per week (that's my current schedule, Wednesday night then Fri/Sat if not both). Just because there are no shortcuts, you have to be in field to level up.
/r/seduction03/03/18 05:43 AM
2

I have been since the last few weeks.
/r/seduction03/03/18 02:28 AM
2

I'm trying. Got flaked on by 2 girls last night, one who was very keen when she approached me on Wednesday. I'm not sure what went wrong there, she just never replied. And I know it's her real number. Maybe I should have called, but oh well, that one's done.
/r/seduction03/03/18 02:28 AM
1

Well yeah if you freak out then that's essentially what she was 'testing' for.
/r/seduction03/03/18 02:27 AM
1

Age of consent here in Aus is 16 as well
/r/seduction03/03/18 02:25 AM
4

I've been downvoted in the past for mentioning the same story, don't worry. I admit it is pretty creepy which is why I should have got downvoted as well, but yeah I didn't even kiss her in the end. She was just a bit awkward and boring. And I'd say only about 6 in looks as well, so really not worth getting a blast from her dad's shotgun.
/r/seduction02/03/18 05:07 PM
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Sounds like you aren't getting any action and they're the only ones currently giving you the time of day. Talk to more girls. Also unconventional advice - go to a strip club so that hot women and their boobs don't leave you breathless any more. Helped a mate of mine with his anxiety.
/r/seduction02/03/18 09:42 AM
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I had a lot more luck years ago when I went out drinking a lot. The social momentum and confidence carried over into sober life a bit. This particular girl approached me at the supermarket I worked at back then. It's basically been a 4 year almost completely dry spell since then. I don't want to destroy my health with alcohol like I was back then even if it does work. Too old now.
/r/seduction02/03/18 09:35 AM
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And getting shut down isn't always a bad thing - it can be a test to see that you're respectful of boundaries yet persistent. It's better than barely managing to hold her hand because you're too scared. I've had a girl laugh in my face and shove me off when I tried to touch her boob. Kept up the kissing, backed off, tried a bit later. Smashed.
/r/seduction02/03/18 05:13 AM
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/r/seduction02/03/18 05:07 AM
8

Sorry but this is really the first thing in literally every dating book, seminar, we get it. Please don't clog up the sub with it.
/r/seduction01/03/18 08:55 PM
1

The success rate is so low, but you may as well try I guess? No further harm done.
/r/seduction01/03/18 08:49 PM
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Yeah I got the number of a girl at my local supermarket who would always come and talk to me. While we were on a date and after she asked how old I was, she mentioned she was 17 and in high school.. It happens.
/r/seduction01/03/18 08:49 PM
1

Asking in person shows more courage.
/r/seduction01/03/18 09:19 AM
1

Occasionally in my city's sub a girl will post a thread about how she gets approached so often. White knights rush to her defence - no guy should ever approach a stranger! She could kick them in the balls and call the police! M'lady! But, it works in the right situation.. And every non natural guy (literally everyone in this sub) had to start somewhere. Some girls are just going to be the practise girl, it's the way it is. I would say it would be nice if they didn't all go to the 1-2 bars and sh…
/r/seduction01/03/18 09:11 AM
1

Just start a new thread mentioning your city in the title.
/r/seduction01/03/18 01:59 AM
1

Invite her to something fun that's nearby. Then you can walk her home or invite her over after if it's going really well.
/r/seduction01/03/18 01:57 AM
1

Yep, there is no other answer really, especially not 'read 499 more books' that guys try to do to avoid reality.
/r/seduction01/03/18 12:08 AM
1

Yeah just move on, you have to get used to doing so. Maybe you'll run into her again another night but basically you're wasting your time putting much more thought into her.
/r/seduction01/03/18 12:07 AM
6

Oh boy. If you're that desperate.. she can sense it even if you think she can't.
/r/seduction01/03/18 12:05 AM
2

I thought it was good a few years ago, but rereading it this year it did seem a bit vague and fluffy. I'd say it's just very basic. Also it seems to say that actual 'game' is pointless and fake - well, it works, that's why it's a billion dollar industry. You can be confident and have your life together and be invisible with women.
/r/seduction01/03/18 12:02 AM
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I 100% agree with real life (I have been forced to, as I don't look how successful tinder guys look). However if it's easy access for the OP to vaguely fuckable women, then its hardly a fuck up.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/18 08:35 PM
2

How so? If it actually works..
/r/TheRedPill28/02/18 08:27 PM
1

Are you talking about getting out of the friend zone? Because this is 50x more unlikely than properly attracting someone new.
/r/seduction28/02/18 08:00 PM
2

Yeah don't drink like that. I assume you're early 20's, the sooner you get over it the better. Either call her and say it was dumb, or just do nothing and try her again in a few weeks. Either way you're screwed I think, live and learn.
/r/seduction28/02/18 01:47 PM
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I'm basically you - tall, good looking, decent paying secure job, and hilariously funny when I'm comfortable around people. And also, I just read material for 4 years and didn't get laid apart from a few low quality tinder girls and an asian girl who would have done anything no matter how I acted. In short, I was avoiding actually going out, avoiding getting my poor little feelings hurt, and anxiety getting worse and worse as a result because you cant just swipe on tinder and get any girl above …
/r/seduction28/02/18 01:37 PM
1

Hobbies apart from gym? Go to a local pickup free seminar (most cities have them from time to time) and meet a few wingmen from there. Average guys are pretty useless with women and won't know what's wrong with you.
/r/seduction28/02/18 01:25 PM
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You have to get past caring about getting rejected. Because in the end even the attractive guys will be rejected a lot of the time especially with cold approach, it's the way it is. And girls don't actually throw drinks on you, slap you, or get their whole crew to laugh at you and mock you like movies or feminists would tell you. Unless you do something seriously fucked up like 'grab her by the pussy' then all they really do when you approach is turn away, say 'I have a boyfriend', or otherwise …
/r/seduction28/02/18 01:17 PM
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Madison is a pretty legit guy. I don't really like Max because I'm pretty sure he's a coke head. I don't agree with everything that Tyler says, but I respect some of his most basic life philosophies. Julian is strange as shit, but I like his stuff on self acceptance. Maybe they're so successful because everyone 'vibes' with a different one. Personally I think Max is the only 'real' one, the others just seem completely insane and autistic.
/r/seduction28/02/18 01:04 PM
1

Almost never, or actually never, happens.
/r/seduction28/02/18 02:18 AM
1

Yeah it reeks of made up story to me. Girls who are 6-8 get approached the most because they're not as intimidating as 9-10's.
/r/seduction28/02/18 02:01 AM
2

Fedora tippers can't be helped, I believe.
/r/seduction28/02/18 02:00 AM
1

The difference is they are highly physically attracted to those guys who are like young brad pitts, or whatever. So normal rules don't apply there. There is no anti slut defence when the girl is already attracted. I've seen what it's like- I am like Brad Pitt to Asian girls because I'm tall and unusually pale (computer nerd + redhead genetics). So when I go to Thailand or wherever I see lots of girls staring at me. I was with a Thai girl who translated what the other girls on the bus were saying…
/r/seduction28/02/18 01:55 AM
8

You just ignored the entire piece of advice..
/r/seduction26/02/18 06:42 PM
3

It should be fun because that's the point. Is sex fun?
/r/seduction26/02/18 06:37 PM
12

Yet most who don't try have zero reputation, so why not go with the mantra of 'what have I actually got to lose?'?
/r/seduction26/02/18 06:37 PM
2

Talk to 5 girls who you find intimidatingly hot, even if it's just for directions at first.
/r/seduction25/02/18 12:17 PM
6

As RSDMax says; The night begins when you leave your house. Not when you get to the club. So talk to the old lady hobbling along the road, the family walking the dog, then the guy waiting at the bus stop, then the girl on the bus, then the group of girls walking the same way towards the club - by the time you get inside you're already killing it.
/r/seduction25/02/18 12:15 PM
1

Well you came across creepy somehow. It sounds like you were making her 'justify' herself, when you haven't demonstrated that you're high value. It comes across as threatening and not in a good way.
/r/seduction24/02/18 11:20 AM
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Get a wingman from a local pickup group, I'm assuming there is one if you aren't in some tiny town. Go out on the weekend in the afternoon to wherever girls are (shopping malls are a good start), and just have the goal to talk to 3. Even if it's just asking where x store is, or starbucks, or whatever. Once that gets easy, ask for something that requires more of an answer. What's a good coffee shop around here? Oh yeah, what's your usual drink? Or open with a compliment. That dress looks great on…
/r/seduction24/02/18 09:33 AM
3

Start to cut out toxic people as you improve yourself. You can also just give him a look that says 'really'? You have to be non reactive when he gives you shit, otherwise he knows he's getting to you.
/r/seduction24/02/18 09:28 AM
2

What you do matters less than actually doing it. "Hi, I haven't met you yet, I'm Jimbob. What's your name?"
/r/seduction23/02/18 06:48 AM
3

I am mostly going to go with the thought that it's nearly impossible to turn around 5 years of friend zone, normally. However, there are a few signs that aren't the normal 'nice guy' situation like you actually enjoy her company without having been trying to exchange it for sex points so far, and are in good shape, and she's trying to reign you in a bit. But yeah, girls will put you in a box if you let them - if you give them the connection and validation and don't demand the sex (by demand I me…
/r/seduction22/02/18 12:23 PM
1

Passwords are usually hashed so no one can see them ever. The rest of your queries would best be answered by them or reading their data policies.
/r/seduction22/02/18 12:01 PM
2

Most advice seems to be wait until she tries to force commitment, then you decide if you want that.
/r/seduction21/02/18 09:09 AM
2

I'd say I am just catching up on the basic socialising I should have done when I was 15, which is awkward because when I go out most people in bars are in their early 20's, including the girls I actually find attractive, so I'm automatically a bit weird compared to every 19 year old kid in their big social circle. And I don't have a lot of friends either, most of them are in my old town, and my housemates are closer to just acquaintances. So when I do go out it's just with 'wingmen' from local P…
/r/seduction21/02/18 07:24 AM
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I haven't really read your other posts or noticed them, no. Look, i'm 31 and actually the same really. I did my first real approach 1-2 weeks ago. Not my first lay or anything, but the first time I initiated the interaction with a girl I had never spoken to before that wasn't on online dating. Yes we suck now and yes we are far behind. But we aren't owed anything. No one is. If we don't do anything then our life is just sitting in an empty lonely room masturbating. And if we do that it's complet…
/r/seduction20/02/18 08:47 PM
1

It is pretty beta, just tell her a time and place.
/r/seduction20/02/18 04:09 PM
2

Day game? I guess if the scene is genuinely limiting then maybe it's worth moving somewhere else.
/r/seduction20/02/18 04:07 PM
1

I'm not that guy but porn and wanking make you tired, anxious and apathetic. Go a week without and approaching is easy. In fact it hurts not to do it when your dick wants to do it's thing that badly.
/r/seduction20/02/18 10:06 AM
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I'm just starting off myself. How do you open? Do you warm up a bit asking for directions? It is actually pretty hard even though so many people claim to be good at it. I've never actually seen any of my wingmen go hugely well at it except for once or twice. I would suggest making it fun somehow, if you're not enjoying yourself then you look like a wierd robot when you approach and stammer something out. Maybe do some challenges/exercises to completely remove the fear. Walk along a busy street a…
/r/seduction20/02/18 12:40 AM
1

Talk to lots of other girls. Once you have options to try everywhere then you naturally don't get hung up on one girl.
/r/seduction20/02/18 12:34 AM
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If you have to work for it, that means later in life when everyone else has declined in looks, health and fitness and hobbies, you'll still have the skills. You'll be much better because 'natural' skill is kind of dumb luck. Compare it to a hot stunning girl with big tits. She never has to think, work, or worry about anything. Some guy will always foot the bill. She gets showered in attention, friendliness, straight to the front of the queue, you name it. The teacher bumps her marks up from a C …
/r/seduction19/02/18 02:55 PM
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Don't bring it up unless she does. She knows. You don't have to be available 24/7, so try not to even open it (so it isn't 'seen') if she does send anything. Just say you were busy if she mentions it.
/r/seduction19/02/18 02:34 PM
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When i go out for daygaming I warm up. Just act like you're new and ask a few people where the cafe is or the book store. Then ask the next person if the cafe is any good, what do they recommend? Or go to the cafe and sit near someone, ask if their food is good or what they study. Who cares if they aren't overly receptive, maybe they're having a bad day or maybe they're shy/hungover. At the end of the day no one cares about you, so what does it matter if you talk to someone and it's a bit awkwar…
/r/seduction19/02/18 02:30 PM
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Next time tell her a time and place, don't leave it hanging. Indecisive = you're a pussy. Don't message again for at least 3 days. Act cool if you see her at work.
/r/seduction19/02/18 01:38 PM
1

yeah
/r/seduction19/02/18 06:43 AM
1

Books like that are great if you have major issues, yes. Just when you get to the point of reading your 17th book and haven't spoken to 1 girl, now you have a new issue. So I would say make sure you are doing approaches every week, no matter how clueless or awkward you feel. The material you read will make more sense if you already have lots of experiences.
/r/seduction18/02/18 08:09 PM
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It's a solid no, so yeah there isn't much to think. It's not necessarily that fact which is holding her back, she just doesn't want to and that's the reason she gave you.
/r/seduction18/02/18 02:21 PM
1

Don't ask a girl what they want, because its about what you want and them rejecting or accepting that. If you ask what they want, it's a sign of being beta so they default to, guess what, english-zoning you in this case, friend zoning in general. Ask her to meet up at a specific place and time, give her 1 chance to reschedule if she can't make it, then delete her if no go. If a girl doesn't come to the party, you have to next her otherwise you are just pouring energy and investment into a black …
/r/seduction18/02/18 02:12 PM
4

Dress like a man.
/r/seduction18/02/18 02:09 PM
2

Coffee is fine but get it takeaway so you can walk around the city.
/r/seduction18/02/18 02:04 PM
1

I wouldn't ask again (I've shown my interest as plainly as I can and she can write it down on the receipt if she ever wants to), but yeah I guess I'll just act like it never happened and see if she's still friendly or just avoids me out the back instead. Being butthurt about it obviously won't do anything however that is probably how I looked at the time and I can't change it now. When I have been rejected by a shop assistance in the past she told me the next time 'its because I'm taken'. At the…
/r/seduction18/02/18 02:02 PM
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You just have to get over it and do it, really. I used to barely be able to look at women, but I digested inner game material and watched infield footage until I saw it was possible. Have been doing approaches for the last few weeks. Never thought I could do a single one until I admitted to myself the alternative is get laid once a year with an average girl. Nah... Have a look at rsdmax's stuff. Very very good.
/r/seduction18/02/18 09:10 AM
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I had a crap day today. Last night I went off and did 10+ approaches and today I could barely ask 1 girl where a bar is. I was expecting to go straight into bold direct openers. I blame lack of sleep and a lot of people being tired and hungover. Ah well another time. At least we're getting out there.
/r/seduction18/02/18 07:57 AM
1

Did you meet her in real life first? Maybe message her through FB if she has that and say hey, what's with that message, your account might be hacked..
/r/seduction18/02/18 04:15 AM
5

Singapore? Why? It's the most boring place I've ever been and also the most expensive.
/r/TheRedPill18/02/18 03:11 AM
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Smile or have a soft face (not resting killer face). You're never going to be approached if you look like you're sulking or mad. Imagine the other way around if a girl looks like that, you'd find it a lot harder to approach than if she's smiling and looks like she's chilled out. And also just talk to everyone, then the people who don't know you yet will see you are sociable, aren't going to judge them, etc.
/r/seduction18/02/18 01:44 AM
3

Next time she's messaging you, tell her to come over for a drink. Get to the point and get what you want otherwise you're just feeding her validation.
/r/seduction18/02/18 01:41 AM
4

Be high value however you do that. It's mostly social circle game for the most successful guys, they have a pool that's essentially preselected.
/r/seduction18/02/18 12:58 AM
3

Please just do it, push through the fear. You're basically being handed a free pass cos you can tell she's into you. I suffered through the same with a girl at the supermarket. Was almost too scared to go through her checkout because it was that hard to ask for her number. But eventually I did and she lit up and gave it to me. Met up with her a week or 2 and she ended up being 17 (I'm 31), but still. They don't give you positive signals for the sake of it.
/r/seduction17/02/18 10:30 AM
3

Don't think the vote thing is accurate because then bots would know that they are or aren't shadowbanned.
/r/seduction17/02/18 10:27 AM
2

How long are you talking for? A guy I went day gaming with spends 10-15 minutes before he asks for the number.
/r/seduction16/02/18 10:48 PM
1

"The moment I said hi, I already won". I dunno dude, I was the same, just never had any experiences in my teens so it was like being handed a gun and pushed out of a plane into a battle somewhere. What the fuck do I do, it's overwhelming... I actually struggled for about 4 fucking years with AA. 4 years, how pathetic is that? That's just AFTER I discovered pickup and knew deep down that of course it's ok to approach. You have to just work your way up. The way I eventually got over my AA and the …
/r/seduction16/02/18 12:39 PM
11

Just avoid, she will fuck you up in the head if you go near her again.
/r/seduction16/02/18 12:24 PM
2

Rsdmax seems to be one of the more authentic ones, though I haven't come across a huge amount of night game infield. But it may be out there.
/r/seduction15/02/18 08:13 PM
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Maybe since you have the basics down pat, try watching some in field videos to see how they do it. I guess there will always be a high percetage of blowouts until you have quite a lot of experience.
/r/seduction15/02/18 01:19 PM
2

It's a low quality, generic article with bad English and somehow it's number 1 on the seddit front page? Pathetic if you think anyone believes that.
/r/seduction15/02/18 12:24 PM
5

I've been told to say afterparty. But seems like.. what if the girl actually expects an afterparty and freaks out at your empty house?
/r/seduction15/02/18 12:18 PM
5

Thinking honestly, do you know what is wrong with you? Cos it always involves a lot of work, but first you have to admit where the problem lies. Normally I would say 'its not the town, its you' when everyone blames their town, but if its as bad as it sounds, you might have to move to a proper city. And when you get there, go out day gaming every day, or night gaming every night. Read Models by Mark Manson as well.
/r/seduction15/02/18 12:03 PM
1

Dude, you have to get past that. Numbers game. How many girls do you have a chance with, from your workplace, friends, and friends of friends? Maybe 2? (For me it's zero, just being honest). So what are you gonna do about it? Work on your fashion, hair style, diet, and gym. Almost any guy can become at least a solid 6-7 in looks, meaning you can get girls at least that cute. Just try asking where Starbucks is or whatever, then after you have done that 5 times ask something deeper like what's the…
/r/seduction15/02/18 09:29 AM
2

Trolling, based on the strange words used.
/r/seduction14/02/18 11:30 PM
1

I believe this may be a windup. Just a vague suspicion..
/r/seduction14/02/18 09:16 PM
1

Tried much daygame? I did it for the first time last weekend. People are much more friendly than I expected, and while you can't really escalate or pull from saying hi in the street (until you're a master of it anyway) you can get in a lot of practise just socialising with women that you never have to see again. They can easily make an excuse and get away if they want to so they don't feel uncomfortable and they aren't auto-rejecting every guy like in clubs.
/r/seduction14/02/18 09:13 PM
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I would say from experience that girls in all of Thailand are very keen to bang foreigners. Bangkok is actually way better because it's not just a tourist cesspit. Heaps of uni girls etc. Back home I get 1 match per week on Tinder, ugly trolls only. In Thailand, match, match, match, match, match....sigh which girl do I choose today.. But you have to be white.
/r/seduction14/02/18 08:23 PM
1

Admit and realise that life isn't fair and you aren't owed anything. Its the way it is. And admit and realise from there that it's up to you, regardless of the hand you got dealt.
/r/seduction14/02/18 08:20 PM
1

You can either do it or never do it. Pretty simple. Take it from me, once you do it it's actually exhilarating and you'll regret the time you wasted overthinking it. Remember it's the very first part of the entire process so if you're stuck on that for years you're getting nowhere! Do you want to have a hot babe in your bed begging for it or not?? Walk around the city on the weekend. Ask random people (start off with fat guys and grandmas if that's what it takes) questions like are there any coo…
/r/seduction13/02/18 08:14 PM
1

If you don't want to change, why did you post? Youre not being honest with yourself.
/r/seduction13/02/18 08:06 PM
1

They have to say it (usually their number of guys is about 3 more than what they tell you, or just double the number if they're older)
/r/seduction12/02/18 02:35 PM
1

Yes, do your last line. And doubtful she was really a virgin if she was pretty easy.
/r/seduction12/02/18 02:22 PM
1

I'm still kinda just getting to the taking action part now. We were out for 3 hours on the weekend and I just did 1 weak approach myself (most before this have been 'warm' approaches like the checkout girl who always smiles and comes over to me, that doesn't count). I kicked myself after for not doing more, but still, I did something that I have avoided for literally years. Even just catching the train into the city my whole body was telling me to go home and I persisted despite almost literally…
/r/seduction12/02/18 11:09 AM
1

Yeah you know the age is bullshit. My last gf was 21 when I met her, I was about 27. Recently, I went on a date with a checkout chick from the local supermarket who turned out to be 17 (legal here), I'm 31 now. A guy I went daygaming with today is in his 40's and pulls early 20's girls.
/r/seduction11/02/18 03:31 PM
1

Edging is pretty much worse than actually cumming as it prolongs the dopamine. Don't touch your dick for a month and come back and tell us what happened.
/r/seduction11/02/18 02:22 PM
1

Some time ago, men were men. They did outdoor jobs like hitting cars with a wrench or sawing down a massive tree, and did all these jobs with other men. Now, we rot in an office after playing computer games until our teenage years were over - is it any wonder we suddenly reach our 20's with no idea how to even say hello to a girl?
/r/seduction11/02/18 02:05 PM
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Interview mode is just asking questions. 'so where do you work? where did you grow up? do you have any pets?' You need to properly engage them like light teasing, telling a story, getting emotions going. Check some of the sidebar links. And yes they are there to have fun and meet people. They have plenty of ways of subtly telling you to go away like 'i have to meet my friend now' so let them reject you instead of rejecting yourself.
/r/seduction10/02/18 02:36 PM
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Just go up and say "hi, I'm name". Doesn't have to be more complicated. Keep your energy levels high and have a 'here to have fun' vibe. Then ask how they know (the host of the party or whoever brought you along). What's your major. That's the basics, just don't go into interview mode after that.
/r/seduction10/02/18 10:34 AM
16

Well, you have bad friends if they make fun of you for it. Don't focus on getting laid, sorry but it's not going to happen this weekend. Accept that. Go out somewhere where women are, like a main street of the town or wherever else they will all be on the weekend, and just have a goal of meeting a few. Go in with "I wonder what she's like". Bring a friend if you can, it helps you come across better to the girls.
/r/seduction10/02/18 09:38 AM
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Why do you care though, unless you're putting yourself in this category? They are probably so unaware as you said that they never improve, and just stay being creepy and depressed while presumably working their low end job (the same unawareness of social stuff is going to affect more than their ability to get their dick wet). They're the guy that girls post about in /creepypms or /letsnotmeet, I guess many of them eventually turn to being rapists/flashers in the park or just develop a deep porn …
/r/seduction10/02/18 08:58 AM
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I can't tell if #2 might have come off creepy or not, but I suppose she would have avoided you more after that if it did... You probably just have to be direct and say you want to take her for coffee/drinks some time and see if you get her number.
/r/seduction10/02/18 08:42 AM
2

I'll let you know when I get a single match, it's only been 6 months and about 4 account recreations so any day now!
/r/seduction10/02/18 08:35 AM
1

That guy in your gym who is 400 pounds of muscle and looks like he will snap and kill you any second
/r/TheRedPill04/02/18 02:02 AM
1

Well nothing you can do to change the outcome now so just don't needy it up worrying about it. Probably something I wouldn't tell girls until after you've had sex, because it only affects relationship suitability not sex suitability and you should be waiting for them to push for relationships on their own after banging for a while..
/r/seduction04/02/18 01:45 AM
1

You were not a sexual creature in her eyes and suddenly you basically threw the beta friendship away and flipped the table by saying you want to fuck her. It doesn't work that way. Her reaction is over the top however she probably feels 'tricked' or like you had this friendship just to fuck her from the start. This is exactly why you don't approach a girl in a friendly and comfortable manner, at least you know for next time.
/r/seduction04/02/18 01:42 AM
1

I was about to recommend some rsdmax before I even saw the other comment. I think infield footage will help you (he has some but there's plenty of others) as you're above the level of the guy who rocks up alone and barely makes it away from the wall the whole night.
/r/seduction04/02/18 01:36 AM
2

An overweight narcissist who desperately wants a baby and money and to not work again.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/18 10:46 PM
1

I guess you just keep going so that eventually you get to a point where the moment you are ghosted you never bother wasting another thought on that girl because there are more. I had a pretty annoying one a while back. A fairly 'exquisite' looking Burmese girl who was a doctor. First date, awesome, I'm leading her around, she's holding my arm, SHE goes in for the kiss without me initiating it, so I think I'm in for sure. Next date, the weather spoils our plan for a walk on the beach, so we end u…
/r/seduction29/01/18 02:19 PM
3

Or even if she says she is taken, it can be a test. Though you have to know when to back out or continue in this case.. But yeah most guys in clubs never get laid and act like that. They definitely aren't a boyfriend. 6 guys head out with 1 girl and to her they're just her free drinks for the night while she looks for the guy who is having fun rather than crowding around her hoping to get her drunk enough. I think you just have to 'AMOG' them - act friendly and meet them, so they basically have …
/r/seduction29/01/18 02:16 PM
2

Well done, sounds like you'll do well when you see her next time. However with kino you shouldn't necessarily wait until they give you a green light, that's just the point where you are getting a big hint. Not saying you did it wrong this time, but many girls will be attracted yet not even make 1% of a move on their own. I have had a few interactions where it was going pretty average, but as soon as I started to clearly kino with intent, the girl straight away reciprocated it, it's like they hav…
/r/seduction29/01/18 02:13 PM
35

She wasn't thinking about the consequences, she just wanted to fuck Chad in the toilets and would have worried about her stuff later.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/18 01:52 PM
6

Keeps you coming back for more when you get confused over all the conflicting information.
/r/seduction29/01/18 01:49 PM
1

How physical did things get? Maybe she wasn't aroused enough to fuck you at the time and she is now kind of rationalising it to decide she never wanted to (but if you pushed a bit further she would have). The best thing is to ignore all the BS stuff they spout like that. Women are never 'looking' for anything. They don't meet someone they vibe with then decide 'damn, I want to fuck this guy but I wasn't actually looking for that so I can't'. If it happens it happens then they justify it later. I…
/r/seduction29/01/18 11:10 AM
1

Yep, its silly to think they don't. You might get a big buff tanned guy walk past at the wrong time and all game flies out the window because that's all the girl has on the mind. Before she has even met him to know anything about him, she knows she wants to. So you have to maximise what you have to work with because sometimes the model guy does rock up and there is absolutely nothing you can do.
/r/seduction29/01/18 11:07 AM
24

Yep, it is mostly mental masturbation that sounds kind of logical so you feel like you are achieving something by sitting there for 18 minutes. Then you look back and think 'what did that video actually tell me to do, what was the takeaway'. And there was nothing at all in the rant. Honestly they are far too culty and there are plenty of bad stories about bootcamps etc that get buried by the evangelical followers. For most guys only 1-2 instructors will 'vibe' with what your specific issues are,…
/r/seduction29/01/18 11:04 AM
6

Painful. But the rest of the comments are just as bad. Once upon a time I would have listened to advice where they all circlejerk about her being a cunt, when pretty much every girl will do the same to a gamma male like that.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/18 11:01 AM
1

"Hey, I haven't met you yet, I'm John".
/r/seduction21/01/18 12:22 AM
11

Worst date ever because she's fucked in the head or doesn't know how to reject a guy. No need to think about her again.
/r/seduction21/01/18 12:22 AM
1

Most people who do keto don't do it properly anyway. It should be about meeting your protein goals first (otherwise you are deliberately losing muscle), and also reducing fat as your body presumably has enough of that to offer as a fuel source. 'Popular' keto which involves extreme fat intake 'works' in that you lose weight, so it's ok for the morbidly obese, but it's going to drain out your muscles with the fat which creates longer term problems and making you work harder just to get back to th…
/r/TheRedPill19/01/18 11:49 PM
14

I'm going to assume this is a slightly tougher version of 'we aren't having sex tonight' which by the way means she has it on the mind meaning it's a definite possibility. Respectfully escalate, and it may happen.
/r/seduction19/01/18 10:22 PM
1

It's unlikely that she even knows, so even if she did tell you 'honestly' (as in what comes to her mind) it wouldn't be the real reason.
/r/seduction19/01/18 02:54 PM
1

Read 'No More Mr Nice Guy', it sounds like in some way you are too beta. Also read Models by Mark Manson. Watch a few RSDMAX videos, if you can afford 'The Natural' course it's pretty awesome (or dare I suggest get it some other way if you are poor) Also, get off online dating. It's seriously depressing how hard it is. I have fucked a few girls that most guys would rate as 8's or higher - one is a wannabe instagram 'model' with thousands of followers. She's like a real life version of Misty from…
/r/seduction19/01/18 02:48 PM
2

Yeah, just ask for her number next time. You already 'YOLO'd and talked to her, and you should think at the time 'I'm never going to see her again, so may as well ask'. I did a similar thing once, talked to a girl who was waiting for the same train, got talking to her, got her number and asked her out for some drinks the next week. She came home and slept in my bed, no sex though as she was a virgin at the age of 29 (indian) and I didn't think it was a good idea. But still. Once you do it once y…
/r/seduction19/01/18 02:45 PM
2

Yeah this guy seems more authentic than a lot of the creepy rsd guys imo.
/r/seduction18/01/18 06:54 AM
11

There's something to be said about that validation when you literally haven't had sex in a year or more though..
/r/seduction17/01/18 12:25 PM
7

Flirting is like teasing and indirectly showing intent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw66ddhAUhg A pretty decent primer on it
/r/seduction17/01/18 11:56 AM
2

Do you think a proper alpha male has to care about instagram? No. It may help get his 'name' out there if it shows him in a good light. But rock up to a club and be attractive and a girl isn't going to see any instagram until after she has been fucked.
/r/seduction17/01/18 11:47 AM
3

Lol
/r/seduction14/01/18 10:00 PM
2

Go up to them and ask something basic like where is mcdonalds, then walk away. Next, ask where mcdonalds is, then ask how is their day or compliment something about them.
/r/seduction14/01/18 01:44 PM
1

Just move on. You won't even hear from her again because she isn't interested enough / any more.
/r/seduction14/01/18 01:00 AM
3

Maybe ask it differently like 'what are you up to on the weekend, you should come to x'. You need to be indirect as you start off IMO. But yeah good work. Boyfriend doesn't mean anything, I mean I've had a girl tell me she had a boyfriend while she was on a date with me. I think it's just a test to see how you react sometimes.
/r/seduction12/01/18 10:29 PM
2

It depends how you're 'hitting on' them and whether you're being creepy. It's easily possible to just be friendly, confident, and test the waters. You don't just stare at a girl's ass from the distance and then say something creepy, that's probably what people are warned against doing. But if you say hi a few times, start occasionally chatting, put in some light innuendo and eventually ask her out for coffee, its pretty low risk and you aren't going to be the gym creeper.
/r/seduction12/01/18 09:52 PM
2

Maybe try to find a wingman because honestly it's an uphill battle if you're already a bit of a loner. But the general theory is talk to the bartender and try to build a bit of rapport (and keep coming back to the same bar so that they 'know' you and you have some social proof), talk to anyone who comes near you based on some observational opener. I've never seen anyone else pull it off, personally.
/r/seduction11/01/18 01:24 PM
1

Depends how she says it, but 'we aren't having sex tonight' for example means you definitely are if you don't screw it up. In the OP's example the girl obviously does want it so he only has to make her feel comfortable/ok about it.
/r/seduction11/01/18 07:02 AM
6

Ok. You need to make it 'just happen'. Forget all her bs. When you get together with her, escalate. When she says 'we can't do this' or 'not tonight', agree, act cool, and back off. Then, escalate again gently. A scared or firm no is obviously a sign to stop, but apart from that you have to stop listening to her logic/BS that she's trying to use to justify not being a slut. Back off, advance, it's all part of the game. I've been with a similar girl. We went from 'not having sex tonight' and her …
/r/seduction11/01/18 05:11 AM
2

Ask how her day's going, it doesn't have to be exciting.
/r/seduction05/01/18 02:29 PM
1

In the sense that you don't put them on a pedestal and you tease them. Not acting like they are the prize to you.
/r/seduction05/01/18 02:20 PM
1

Lol, I posted similar a day or 2 ago and got no replies. Are you talking Melbourne, Australia hopefully? or the USA one? Anyway, I'm 31, but look younger (25 or so), and approach anxiety is my thing but I'm starting to overcome it and also lack of wingmen / friends who actually want to go out much. Feels like a wingman who has the same goals (as in not just going out to get hammered or sit on the wall staring at the girls all night) would accelerate things by a lot, it is very hard to go to a cl…
/r/seduction05/01/18 02:10 PM
1

If you're too awkward to talk to people you don't know, doesn't that mean you should be doing it MORE to learn it? Back in the old days it was just a thing people did. You can read books and forums but the end point of all of these is going out into the real world with basic knowledge. After you read 1-2 basic books or guides, the benefits of continuing to read are almost zero. You can't just read forever then bam, go straight up to that supermodel and spit the perfect line. No, you have to have…
/r/seduction05/01/18 02:04 PM
1

Just go, just start. Every time the fear and anxiety reduces. Even if the first time is just going to the bar, having a glass of diet coke and looking around. Next time chat up the bartender and ask about their day (male or female). Use observations to open people, like if someone has a crazy shirt or hat, make a comment about it. Eventually you'll be able to just walk up to a hot girl and say something stupid and she'll laugh with you and start talking. You have to just gradually expose yoursel…
/r/seduction05/01/18 01:55 PM
8

Every time a girl has been into me and wanted to add me on FB, and I've done it, things go downhill very rapidly (think ghosted in a week or less), I guess because I'm lacking photos of me leading sports clubs or in club photos with a flock of hotties, whatever it is they're looking for. Perhaps they are on the edge and not sure what to make of you and that's how they decide. Possibly with a whole team of their friends tearing you apart and mocking you before she tells you she just wants to be f…
/r/seduction05/01/18 01:49 PM
1

After once being terrified I realised that not asking is just rejecting yourself anyway, you've already guaranteed a no. That's pretty pathetic if you claim to actually want women. Rejections are actually a relief to me now - it instantly means you have no reason to think about that girl ever again and can move on to the next (unless she's in your social circle, but you know what I mean).
/r/seduction04/01/18 01:27 PM
1

Next time just remind yourself that not asking her guarantees a 'rejection' (no positive outcome). You have to increase your odds above zero if thats what you truly want to do.
/r/seduction04/01/18 01:25 PM
2

I do 'normal' yoga (yin/restorative) and there are about 20% guys there. The girls seem a little flighty/anxious due to the nature of what yoga is (a form of therapy in essence) but mostly open to meet you. You definitely have to be seen there for a long time before they open up though, I think they do suspect guys go there just to perve and pick up. I started getting a lot of interest from younger babes and milfs alike only after I started going to the premium 'workshops' that cost $100 on a we…
/r/seduction04/01/18 01:18 PM
2

Here's the reality. A working holiday of any sort = an opportunity for a girl to fuck as many guys as possible because it 'doesn't count' when she goes back home. I would know, as my housemate (male) has a girlfriend back home, but he fucks a whole lot of girls here, and it doesn't count to him. There is no such thing as a full relationship for them during this stage. I don't care how much of a 'nice girl' or 'shy girl' you think she is, doesn't change how their mind works when they have excuses…
/r/seduction04/01/18 12:56 PM
5

What they mean is they are trying too hard to think of the 'right' thing to say, which makes things awkward as they then can't even open their mouth. The hard part yet part that's likely to actually work is just letting your mouth run like you are hanging out with your little sibling or best friend.
/r/seduction04/01/18 12:25 PM
2

You were nervous I guess and blurted out what came to mind? It happens until you get used to it. Maybe stick to daygame until you figure out what you're doing..girls are going to be nervous if you act wierd, and at night time they probably have good reason to be. Daytime they won't need to be on edge so much. And if you can't go into alcohol venues yet, best you can do at night is lurk around in the streets. You're fighting an uphill battle to start with.
/r/seduction02/01/18 10:28 AM
35

She's not your gf at all. She moved on long ago. And she is/was definitely fucking other guys...probably the entire time you knew her. For your own sanity block every possible form of communication with her and never ever initiate or respond to her at all, ever. Go out there and find some decent new girls. There is no point contacting the new guy, it just makes you look double beta (been there, done that myself). The best thing you can do is remove all trace of her from your brain and life, its …
/r/TheRedPill01/01/18 10:52 AM
1

Yeah its honestly the very worst by far in every country I've ever used it in.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/18 03:31 AM
1

By far. Firstly you aren't bad looking, and second looks are only about 20% of attraction.
/r/seduction29/12/17 01:58 PM
1

Yes, in my experience any girl around 26 or older is looking for long term. Younger than that, well you probably have to be good in bed and they might stick around for a while.
/r/seduction28/12/17 01:11 PM
1

Even my housemates who actually get the odd lay only get about 3-4 matches per week. You are in the top 10%, whatever you're doing.
/r/seduction28/12/17 01:10 PM
1

If you are the type with really good fashion and grooming and a good job, you should be fine. Especially with a few photos in a group of people who aren't all indians to show that the rest of society accepts you. Just don't be a seedy 'open cloth send vegana' type creep that they're going to be wary of (and most indian guys are).
/r/seduction28/12/17 01:08 PM
2

20 matches in a day? Jesus. That's about how many girls I've matched with in my life.
/r/seduction28/12/17 03:35 AM
77

Is this a parody thread? I don't get why you would make up such a bizarre scenario that has never happened anywhere and isn't even 4% believable. I would help her without a second thought just because it's nice. Most people would. I haven't been to America but I'm not stupid enough to think it's some sort of post apocalyptic hell of purple haired fatties yelling 'rape' and 'triggered' like a buzzfeed comments section and men are strutting around laughing at the poor woman who is trying to trap m…
/r/TheRedPill27/12/17 01:56 AM
1

It's on Amazon/kindle. Worth paying money for.
/r/seduction27/12/17 01:42 AM
1

I watched half way and had to stop, I'm sure this guy is successful as apparently people pay him money, but the whole thing reeks of him trying to convince not just the viewers but himself that he's getting some and the girl was willing. Even I can pick up a trashed girl, and all the others he yelled at or made goody comments to weren't at all interested.
/r/seduction27/12/17 12:51 AM
7

I've had similar actually happen. I was working at the supermarket and this hottie was giving me the eyes, I didn't think much of it, then when I finished my shift I saw a FB message saying she wanted to add me. I was a bit suspicious especially since she was like an 8-9 to me but I rolled with it. Plus how did she even find me on fb only knowing my first name... Anyway yeah a few days later she invited me over at 10pm or something and minimal resistance there, fucked her a few times the day bef…
/r/seduction26/12/17 06:28 AM
2

News flash, girls lie to make you feel special. She does it every time with any guy. Go to a doctor and ask for an STD test. They'll make you piss in a cup and maybe take a blood sample.
/r/seduction26/12/17 03:05 AM
2

Always use it man, no matter which girl, until you definitely want kids. And even then make sure both of you are tested. Any girl who fucks guys bareback has done it before, and you don't want the diseases of some filthy old pattaya perverts. Remember HIV is statistically quite high in Thailand too... And what would you have done if she announced she's pregnant?
/r/seduction25/12/17 05:34 AM
13

If she's suggesting midnight then she wants to fuck. Netflix and chill would have been a no brainer IMO.
/r/seduction25/12/17 02:30 AM
2

Come on dude, 9/10 approaches will be a rejection for almost anyone. You don't know what was going through her head, maybe you just looked like someone she knew or something, just move onto the next.
/r/seduction25/12/17 02:29 AM
3

NP. And sorry to use harsh words about the girls there but its just the way the girls have to be to survive, its either be bar whores or earn $10 a day in a service job, you would only ever want to go near a university educated one because she will have come from a decent family and not have to become a bar girl.
/r/seduction24/12/17 11:12 AM
4

Hoo boy, where do I start. Alrighty... she is a low class, uneducated gold digging bar girl.. and you've become the perfect easy target that they all love and spot a mile away. Sure you didn't give her money yet but it is all a long con as she is going for citizenship or eventually monthly donations to repair the water buffalo. There is a saying 'you can take the girl out of the bar, but you can't take the bar out of the girl'. And that's sounding very much true here. Although it sounds like she…
/r/seduction24/12/17 11:05 AM
1

You can't increase attraction over text. Invite her to something low key like coffee on saturday morning or if your city has something like bubble tea in the evening.
/r/seduction24/12/17 10:59 AM
8

Implying most girls haven't done this at some point..
/r/seduction24/12/17 07:39 AM
1

In Australia girls usually want to buy their own anyway but yeah dinner just sucks because you can't touch them
/r/seduction24/12/17 01:37 AM
3

Hobbies and doing your best to pull people (guys and girls) into meeting up outside those. Commit to something fitness related (Crossfit, yoga, frisbee, hiking), whatever. It's definitely an uphill battle..
/r/seduction24/12/17 01:35 AM
1

What do you do instead of dinner normally? My past few dates have steered the location towards dinners and it was basically deliberate sabotage but I wasn't sure what else to suggest. As a 30's guy, bowling and stuff like that seems a bit lame.
/r/seduction23/12/17 11:46 AM
1

'direct message', its a way of sending guys to the orbit zone.
/r/seduction23/12/17 10:39 AM
1

Well, did she actually 'talk about this'? Sounds like you're meant to know she has a boyfriend or something.
/r/seduction23/12/17 10:39 AM
1

This doesn't sound healthy dude. I would say you have to talk to her just so you can destroy the image you built up in your head about her. Just say hi and that you wanted to meet her - no matter how awkward or scary it is.
/r/seduction23/12/17 10:37 AM
2

Better than nothing - after a few more you'll be able to play it cool. Could have asked more about their destinations like if they're heading home or starting a holiday.
/r/seduction23/12/17 10:33 AM
3

I've fucked several hot girls who only knew me when I was a loner/ relative loser. My hottest ex I knew when I had almost no friends and worked at a supermarket, doesn't get much more pathetic. Don't choose a limiting belief because it's convenient. You're better off trying and failing with them and learning something because if you wait until you're rich in a few years time you're still starting from zero having missed out on years of improvement.
/r/seduction23/12/17 10:24 AM
1

I have a friend who says he has done it before (not sure how true). I think the strategy is to be 'normal', as in not just ogling them and trying to touch them at first, but treating them like a human. They don't get that a lot. But yeah, they are mostly drug addicts or looking for a sugar daddy.
/r/seduction23/12/17 09:41 AM
1

Dude, dont fucking delete your posts.
/r/seduction23/12/17 09:05 AM
1

I know the dilemma mate! Some people will probably think it's creepy or whatever, yet we get porn thrust in our faces where all the girls are a fresh faced teenager, so is it acceptable or not? In the end if the girls want to be with you, all you need to ask is if it's legal. I'm 31 and got stuck in a LDR for a few years (thats over and done with now) but I now have zero game, lately I've just been going out with any tinder girl I can just to get over the anxiety and then start to figure out how…
/r/seduction23/12/17 02:02 AM
5

You're fighting an uphill battle with any girl that SAYS (whether its true or not) she has a boyfriend. Why fight an uphill battle? Because we have no more options. So fix that. Pretty much move on from her and find other girls and ironically when you haven't even thought about her for a week she'll probably be kicking your door down.
/r/seduction23/12/17 02:01 AM
2

Thai girls are really easy and no LMR most of the time. I say that as a very awkward guy who gets laid once per year back home. It's something about the pale skin I think.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/17 07:15 AM
21

Marriage is a license to become obese for indian girls.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/17 02:31 PM
9

Because you waste your time and don't get laid.
/r/askTRP19/12/17 12:56 PM
1

It's possible to find decent ones. I did have a Thai girl who was educated and came from a decently wealthy family, they had 2-3 houses and some sort of construction business. She was also far above the league of any girl I ever got before, and seemed to think I was something special. She didn't even WANT to come to Australia either, she hated it when she was here. I kept looking for the scam she had to be pulling but there didn't seem to be one. Just 3 years of great times whenever I got myself…
/r/askTRP16/12/17 09:03 AM
1

Maybe meet in a public place like a shopping mall where you can see her before she sees you and you have a chance to bail. I dunno, if she was catfishing wouldn't it be a typical 10/10 porn model photoset?
/r/askTRP16/12/17 08:57 AM
1

Yep. I've seen infield clips with titles like 'GUY PICKS UP HOT BLONDE STUNNER'. Yeah mate, I wouldn't look twice at that girl in the street, and I'm desperate...
/r/TheRedPill16/12/17 02:20 AM
1

If you actually were a 10, would you need to waste your time on anything below an 8 though?
/r/TheRedPill16/12/17 02:16 AM
1

You have to set the time and place. You can't keep dancing around with 'maybe', 'someday', and 'we should...'. Think about it, every person always says that and never ever actually does it. Because it makes the other person feel good to say it, and it's noncommittal. Forget what some other guy is trying to do and just ask her to the bar and have a fun time and see what happens.
/r/seduction14/12/17 01:35 PM
1

I don't think it's likely that they are both going to come over to your house. Girls will always say 'sounds good' etc until you set the exact time and place, then you'll quickly find out they had no intention of really doing it. I'm not trying to burst your bubble and I wasn't there the night you met her but just don't be disappointed when it doesn't go right. Do you think you're really good looking or did you manage to have a very great connection on the night?
/r/seduction13/12/17 08:26 PM
5

Careful, she might be one of those super friendly 'club promoter' girls. Here they'll be best buddies with everyone to get them in the club because they're getting $5 for every chump that mentions their name at the door. Just play it by ear - bring some (high quality) friends to the club with you as I think showing some social proof will go a long way. You don't want to be seen as the loser who turned up alone just to hang by her side all night reeking of desperation. Chat up other girls while y…
/r/seduction13/12/17 11:52 AM
2

What the fuck, thats not how tinder works. You have about 2 days, and pretty much every girl I've actually met with I asked out within 24 hours because they were clearly keen to talk with me up to that point. You strike while it's hot - you dont get to 'know' them over an app thats literally for finding casual sex.
/r/seduction11/12/17 06:44 AM
3

They'll often give it to you anyway without asking if they actually want to.
/r/seduction11/12/17 06:42 AM
1

There has to be somewhere that women go that isnt a seedy bar. Coffee, supermarket, mall. Most of these you legitimately go to anyway, so you have a reason for being there and dont have to go for long.
/r/seduction11/12/17 06:36 AM
1

Tell her she should date that guy.
/r/seduction11/12/17 06:35 AM
3

Don't ask girls for their advice...they'll say it's creepy or just 'be yourself and someone will appear'. Watch some infield videos, sure a lot are fake and they're only the best ones, but it shows you what CAN happen. And then decide if you want to wish you did something, or know that you tried it and you learned something (or better).
/r/seduction10/12/17 01:44 AM
-6

Please don't do this unless you're well over 50
/r/seduction09/12/17 09:43 PM
1

Tough one but try not to overthink it. Can you try not to do a 'date' though, and just one of you come over to the other's house? Even the weakest, flimsiest excuse, like so she can meet your dog, or see your comic book collection. Just don't say the word 'sex' and you'll get fucking laid. Read my thread I just posted and see how to turn some very good first dates into disasters. If you are fairly certain you can get the girl to come over, do it rather than stringing things out.
/r/seduction09/12/17 11:58 AM
2

Asians, some indians, but mainly just 29+ year old worn out girls who want babies and most likely only just enough sex to make said babies :/
/r/seduction09/12/17 11:54 AM
1

Just do it more. Try, and fail, laugh about it, feel good that you tried. And you quietly level up from there. I used to be almost literally shitting myself when trying to ask out a 5/10 girl. Now I'm mostly ok talking to actually hot girls and looking them in the eye, just a few months later.
/r/seduction09/12/17 11:48 AM
2

I guess it's just strategy. They don't get the same guys by not being a bit assertive.
/r/TheRedPill08/12/17 09:13 PM
10

Yeah. Almost literal worship wherever they go. Free careers/promotions with no consideration of merit.
/r/TheRedPill08/12/17 09:09 PM
3

Very beta and passive aggressive. I'd be surprised if you actually met/fucked a girl after trying that, because girls respond when they're really interested.
/r/seduction06/12/17 07:05 PM
2

It turns your chode-ness into a habit which might affect other parts of your game.
/r/seduction06/12/17 07:04 PM
2

Well, it's possible, but if you are asking about 1 girl then you are going to fail because you're doing it all to win her back, and she will notice that probably. If you truly didn't care about her and went chasing after girls and improving yourself, she'd probably take notice and try to win back some attention.
/r/seduction03/12/17 12:14 PM
1

Do something like Stronglifts 5x5. If you're eating proper meals and drinking litres of milk per day, you can't not gain weight and muscle.
/r/seduction03/12/17 10:43 AM
1

When you say ghost, are they even messaging you and sounding keen to meet again? Is there anything there TO ghost or are they kinda already ghosting you? You're allowed to shut them down with 'it was fun hanging out but I'm only looking for a bit of fun and don't want to hurt you'. You might get a few lays out of it as a bonus if they don't mind that.
/r/seduction03/12/17 10:00 AM
1

See if she replies (I see she has from your later response to this thread), if she doesn't then please don't bother messaging again. You'll know when a girl is keen, it's like night and day. Slow/no response or short messages = pretty obvious what's happening. Yeah its tough when you finally start getting the dates, I was shitting myself even with average looking and boring girls, but after a few more and a few makeouts / 2nd dates, I'm starting to kill it. You just have to have fun instead of t…
/r/seduction03/12/17 09:55 AM
1

So you say she's sexy, is the reason you dont want to do it anxiety? Push through anyway if you think you truly want to and are just avoiding it. Will you regret it if you don't? There are a lot of reddit threads like 'guys, whats the most obvious sign you missed from a girl'. I think most of them the guy is just too scared to do anything but he knows full well what is going on. Don't be that guy posting in the next thread about that. Be the guy that smashed, IMO.
/r/seduction03/12/17 09:39 AM
2

Good one, it's all experience and at least you recognise some stuff that maybe could have gone better. I know flirting is the same for me, I naturally revert to 'normal' conversation and of course the girl has every excuse not to see me again, "you're a nice guy but...". I think once you get more experience and feel more comfortable you can more naturally tease and mess with girls, because you aren't so hung up on the one interaction.
/r/seduction03/12/17 12:40 AM
51

Just say 'I decided not to smoke weed, but do you still want to hang out and watch netflix or something?'. He'd have to get the idea from that.
/r/seduction02/12/17 12:52 AM
1

About 8 years ago I used to go out and get drunk twice a week (often REALLY drunk to the point of getting arrested sometimes.... yeah). Actually, I kinda did naturally become more social, some of it does wear off on you. Maybe that would have happened anyway even without drinking. But I was also very needy and I admit sleazy - I was waaaaay to forward and gropey and it just happened to work and not get me kicked out sometimes when a drunk girl wanted to get laid and no one else had come along ye…
/r/seduction02/12/17 12:14 AM
1

It doesn't sound like you're that bad by what you wrote. Do you think you're coming across fun? Or maybe projecting nervousness which makes them nervous as well? Are you smiling when you meet them? How about your fashion? Perhaps there is a bit of neediness going on and they can detect it. I don't really get any myself but I don't get hung up on girls at all any more. I know the difference between how I act. Too needy = too eager to try to be funny and not take any risks in the convo.
/r/seduction28/11/17 10:26 AM
3

If you have a western level income then you're living in a palace in most 3rd world countries. I'd move to most SE Asian countries in a heartbeat if I could get any better job there than teaching English.
/r/TheRedPill26/11/17 11:43 AM
1

Are you a guy or a girl? If you're a girl then fair enough if you haven't said it yourself. But it's just as common a phrase as 'I'm not that kind of girl'. (She always is) To me it's actually a super green light when a girl says it if I wasn't sure how keen she was beforehand. What it really means is she's thinking about having sex with you but wants to check that you respect her boundaries, so all I've ever done in response is say 'ok' and respectfully keep escalating (I fully understand when …
/r/seduction24/11/17 07:46 PM
4

Ah no, nearly all girls will say that, it's a common objection / 'anti slut defence'. Last time a girl told me that, half an hour later she was the one pushing me down and climbing on top of me.
/r/seduction24/11/17 11:56 AM
1

Well they aren't the only examples. I guess you don't even get a chance to portray yourself on tinder and it isn't really about looks in real life is what I'm saying.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/17 01:15 PM
1

Hard to explain, and I'm not that successful in either just yet as I've been heavily gymming and reading for inner game over the last few months, but in real life they can't just filter you out on looks alone which is really all you can portray. Your confidence, game, aura, any of that stuff, can't be dismissed instantly if it's there and you walk up to them. Tinder is how you look in 5 photos, and the first witty sentence you can come up with. Your confidence may not show in photos, and for me …
/r/TheRedPill20/11/17 12:54 PM
0

I just wish I could go back, and do it all again. At least at 31 I've realised and still have a good chance at getting some of those chicks.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/17 12:15 PM
3

I would talk to my matches normally, meaning - no crazy stuff - just generic - how are you; what do you do for work; Incredibly boring. You have to catch their attention better than a job interview does. At least if you get the match and you don't have the looks. Any average guy can open with 'hey how are you' and 'so what's your job/study?'. But you're right, online dating is basically a giant women's frame for men to meekly enter, where women get away with guys 3 points above them who are happ…
/r/TheRedPill20/11/17 11:56 AM
17

$28 for 1 month here in Australia, I can't say I can justify that!
/r/seduction19/11/17 06:04 AM
2

She was on drugs and/or psychotic, not sure there is much more to learn?
/r/TheRedPill18/11/17 12:22 PM
3

I also went ok with one at my local supermarket, she was super mega hot and I knew she was really keen, but when she coyly avoided giving me her number I eventually found via FB stalking that she was married. Maybe its something about my deathly pale skin that they like.
/r/seduction18/11/17 12:09 PM
0

Most aussie ones are just in terrible shape outside of the uni campus areas..
/r/seduction18/11/17 12:06 PM
12

It's a numbers game. This stuff happens, things never work out due to logistics. Hell, I could have married the most gorgeous Thai girl who would have pretty much died for me, but bringing her to Australia even though I could afford the huge cost, just wasn't practical, all her friends and family would pretty much never see her again. Once you get more comfortable with it you increase the number of interactions, then you only need 5-10% to go well to regularly get so many women in your life.
/r/seduction18/11/17 12:06 PM
4

I think she did ask (on the actual date not the first meet), and I said something like I just thought she was cute, because that's honest. I wouldn't use that as the opener personally. She then kinda started telling me how she isn't that type of girl, she doesn't have sex before marriage, all the usual fluff that means nothing. DONT worry about what they might say next anyway, because you're just stuffed if you have a script in your head and you're forced to deviate from it. Just wing the whole …
/r/seduction18/11/17 12:02 PM
1

I kinda am, but it's a question of what is the alternative? We're reading this sub because we are unhappy with our dating life. If I keep being a neckbeard nerd in my computer room, women aren't going to appear on my dick. If you cold approach, there isn't much chance anyone will ever see you again and recognise you as that guy. And most rejections aren't some huge display of a woman screaming and throwing a drink at you. They get it all the time so they just know to turn away, say 'i have a boy…
/r/seduction18/11/17 12:00 PM
1

Ah, well there's something to work on unless you're in some remote small town. I am really not successful at all, but I have switched around my pictures to get a few matches per day. Used to be none. Pick photos of you doing some fun stuff, and some in a group with friends. Maybe get people here to critique.
/r/seduction18/11/17 11:58 AM
4

You go to the gym. You start off as a puny, fat fuck. And even 2 months later you don't see much difference. But you keep doing the right thing and eating right over more months, and it's impossible not to see the changes. Same goes for social stuff.
/r/seduction18/11/17 03:41 AM
1

Ignore what tinder girls say in their profile. Every girl says they 'aren't that type of girl' yet they are there on an app which is designed for casual sex and they know it. How many matches do you get per week?
/r/seduction18/11/17 02:45 AM
1

Ok, are you talking about cold approaches in the street or 'friend of a friend's that you tried to chat up at a friend's house party or something? Try Tinder/Bumble. While most guys get a low amount of matches (so don't take this personally), if you can meet a few average girls just to practice with and not care too much about, it seriously helps. I've met a few average/boring tinder girls who I probably would fuck if they seemed keen. I didn't really try to push it towards that, but I did work …
/r/seduction18/11/17 01:26 AM
1

Sounds really beta and would either creep out a girl who you didn't know very well, or if you do, it would cement your position as her gay best friend.
/r/seduction18/11/17 01:14 AM
2

You are scared of the work that needs to be put in, and you are avoiding it. Apathy is a very real form of avoidance. By not caring, you feel safe, and you can't 'fail'. Stop jerking off for 3 months and by the end your dick will lead you to where it wants to go. Approach hot girls more, get a friend to force you to do it if you have to, as this is only step 1 out of 10, and it sucks that so many of us get stuck here for months or years when really even once we are approaching the success rate m…
/r/seduction18/11/17 01:12 AM
1

We can't tell from what you wrote. Are you physically escalating enough on the first date? I've found that usually if I haven't kissed the girl BEFORE the end of the first date (don't awkwardly force it at the last moment), she just has no interest or 'boyfriend zones' me which means 3+ more dates before I get laid if at all. Are you being fun on dates? Like chilled out, joking, teasing? Run us through how a first date goes, where you were surprised afterwards when she didn't want to see you aga…
/r/seduction18/11/17 01:11 AM
164

Yeah better to not go for number straight away. I guess if you weren't getting on the same train you might not have had time to do much else though. But yes, the most important thing is you did it, and it wasn't that bad, right? If you have enough time next time, say something like 'Hey hows it going, I wanted to meet you' as it's a bit better than telling her she is cute, that implies how she looks is all you care about, and if she's hot well she already knows it. I did a successful cold approa…
/r/seduction18/11/17 12:26 AM
1

Welcome to the game. Most guys will never be into pickup just because they are too scared to ever approach. So just by doing it you're in the top 5%.
/r/seduction16/11/17 07:35 PM
6

Move on because you didn't give her the tingles.
/r/seduction16/11/17 01:48 PM
5

Go for real life man. I come across terribly in photos so I get about 1 match per week. I'm not that freakish in real life though. It takes work but you get real girls that aren't antisocial attention whores..
/r/seduction16/11/17 01:02 PM
2

I go to yoga because it stops me going insane from anxiety. But honestly, it's the worst place ever to pick up (for me and every other struggling guy). Most girls there seem very 'flighty', they are often just awkward/depressed/anxious themselves, as some types of yoga are a form of therapy (restoration/yin which I do are for a fair few people anyway). Most of them seem to almost run out the door at the end with no chance of saying hi, and even getting there early to hang around, they aren't the…
/r/seduction16/11/17 12:23 PM
1

Mine is in a relationship with some horrendously ugly snaggletooth loser, still in a dead end job in a dead end town and 5 years older. I'm glad I'm not the pathetic loser any more that she twirled around like a puppet for 3 months.
/r/TheRedPill13/11/17 12:41 PM
1

Head out more. Clubs and pubs are pretty stressful when you aren't good at it. Also try to never drink otherwise you will need alcohol to be 'normal'.
/r/seduction12/11/17 10:44 AM
5

I'd be keen man. I'm 31, but generally people don't believe I'm over 25. Understandable if I'm too old though. Maybe even get a whole crew together from here.
/r/seduction12/11/17 07:27 AM
1

Been there done that. It's never going to improve, so why stay? You can't get ANY hot chick that walks past if you're stuck with one you don't want. You think you owe her, why? All you owe her is to do the right thing which is set her free.
/r/askTRP11/11/17 12:45 PM
3

Yep. I had a Thai girl I visited sometimes. She would have earned about $2 per hour at her job. She would buy me random stuff and I was barely allowed to get my wallet out even for $10+ meals. I almost felt sorry for her.
/r/askTRP11/11/17 12:38 PM
0

Yeah looking back at my experience with both, Tinder barely gets me boring 3's at best. Real life approaches have been rare but I fluked it with 6's-8's+without even really knowing what I'm doing. If you're waiting for a train/bus or have some other opportunity to comment on something, just do it..
/r/TheRedPill11/11/17 12:26 PM
4

Its just what literally every girl ever says. It means they have sex on the mind and you have to show them you are respectful of them. Then smash
/r/TheRedPill11/11/17 11:47 AM
5

Potassium is extremely important yet rarely mentioned. Try potassium citrate powder, slowly work up to 1-2 teaspoons per day.
/r/TheRedPill11/11/17 11:35 AM
3

RSD has such a culty following, presumably guys who paid the money and don't want to believe they wasted it. Some of them are actually good like Max, but others downright rapey.
/r/seduction07/11/17 02:06 PM
13

The fact that you didn't fuck her when she was at your fucking house is probably the reason you've lost her now. Learn your lesson for next time because it sounds like you somehow stuffed this one up. How much more obvious can it get?
/r/seduction05/11/17 11:33 AM
1

Really literally anywhere.
/r/seduction05/11/17 11:31 AM
-16

5 years? Jesus dude. Not having a go at you but surely actual therapy was worth considering.
/r/seduction05/11/17 11:30 AM
5

Do not mention that you stalked her. Just walk up and say Hi, I've seen you round, what's your name? And go from there. The only thing you use the Tinder connection here for is knowing in your head before approaching that she's single.
/r/seduction30/10/17 09:14 AM
1

Just say 'hows it going' as you pass her or work out near her, and see how she reacts. Or 'ha, you're here all the time, do you ever leave?'. If she seems receptive just talk a bit more the next time, as her whats shes up to on the weekend, etc.
/r/seduction28/10/17 12:52 PM
1

It adds 1-2 out of 10 when you are in excellent shape compared to tubby. Some girls notice and love certain muscles, to others they will be invisible. But as others have said your mind will work differently, you'll feel better and be much more confident and energetic.
/r/seduction28/10/17 12:48 PM
1

Its abnormal because teenagers should be insatiably horny. Were you? And are you large/fit/social/get laid a lot?
/r/seduction28/10/17 12:47 PM
4

Especially when no one is that impressed by the content each time either.
/r/seduction23/10/17 02:26 AM
1

Eventually you get so frustrated at yourself that you just do it, then realise you were glad you did it, then the next time is a bit easier. So just do it. You can't read your way out of the fear, you just have to face it.
/r/seduction12/10/17 10:49 AM
1

Just do the approach in real life, imagine how awesome the next few years will be when you know that part is easy. Just go up, "Hi, I'm Name". It doesn't have to be any more complicated than that.
/r/seduction08/10/17 11:06 AM
1

Your chances are at least tripled if you're out with someone else.
/r/seduction01/10/17 12:08 PM
1

Australia. Or maybe they just detect my lack of success and charge accordingly.
/r/seduction28/09/17 10:24 PM
1

$5, lol It's 17.50 per month here if you get 6 months.
/r/seduction28/09/17 01:00 PM
2

Yeah, I never had great luck but I did meet and sleep with a few girls in the good old days when it was completely free. Now, I get 1 match every week who doesn't talk. And needless to say, she's never that attractive to start with, in fact I only try to talk out of some combination of pity and desperation just to see if even some cave troll would respond to me. Bumble I have had a few chats on, met 1 nice girl, but the way it works is it shows you basically the 10/10 models first who you have n…
/r/seduction28/09/17 07:50 AM
1

Yeah, I thought she was university age, so did my housemates who saw her once when I was chatting to her at work.
/r/seduction24/09/17 11:26 PM
2

Just do it, there is only so much reading and avoiding it you can do before you realise that this is the step you can't skip. Push through the fear, even bring a buddy and make him push you. Hand him $100 and you don't get it back until you have done a proper approach. The thing is before you approach you havent even BEGUN the journey. And when you do it you realise nothing bad happens and that you have so much more to learn.
/r/seduction24/09/17 11:23 PM
1

It went alright, though she was way younger than I thought, 17, eek.
/r/seduction24/09/17 11:33 AM
1

At the end of the day it's your life, so with all due respect to the girl I initially replied to, one individual girl is the last person you'd get advice from. Plenty of people have picked up from day game. It's literally half of the whole 'industry'.
/r/seduction24/09/17 04:08 AM
3

Yeha it is mostly awkward but you just push through that and you'll soon see if it's going to go anywhere. Just realise the difference between awkward and creepy.
/r/seduction23/09/17 10:50 AM
7

Lol, you've come to the wrong sub. It's a numbers game either way (meaning sure, maybe you or even most girls aren't into it), but if the guy is friendly and relatively attractive to a girl, why not? Seems better than a pub if we don't want the type of girls who go to pubs and clubs, too. Where else would you suggest?
/r/seduction23/09/17 10:49 AM
4

I'm supposedly more attractive than that and I get about 1 match per week, who either doesn't talk or weighs 480 pounds.
/r/seduction23/09/17 10:47 AM
2

'natural' guys might not be much help though. Their advice is probably just 'be yourself', which is no help to someone who has already done that for 25 years and got nowhere.
/r/seduction23/09/17 10:40 AM
77

After he kept going, you had to stand up for yourself but in a manly way. Just give him a look and say 'what the fuck?' and then to the girls 'do you know this guy??'. If the girls were fairly cool with you they'd just give that guy a look of disgust which would be his cue to walk away. He is essentially the creep, but yeah sounds like you could have dealt with it better. Oh well, next time.
/r/seduction23/09/17 10:39 AM
6

A guy who is in good shape and has a man bun is the guy who steals your girl. An 18 year old, probably not so much.
/r/seduction23/09/17 10:36 AM
15

Not really, more like the definition of social game. If everyone else is there with friends and you're standing there awkwardly and you don't know anyone then it basically says you suck before you even look at a girl. Or if you're having fun in a group then you're automatically cool looking (until you show otherwise).
/r/seduction23/09/17 08:29 AM
47

Do you know many people there? Maybe you come across as a random guy with no friends. Shoot the shit with anyone you know first. If they introduce you to a few people it might make it a lot easier to get the ball rolling.
/r/seduction23/09/17 05:15 AM
1

Have a crack, just remember she probably gets hit on by 100 guys per day if she's even slightly attractive. So you may not have stood out to her. I guess try to figure out when she will be around and go for a drink.
/r/seduction23/09/17 02:43 AM
1

You can if you want. Ask her what she got up to on the weekend, or what she's doing next weekend, and have a bit of a chat. Keep it up next time you go back and she'll remember you. I've chatted up a fair few cashiers at my local supermarket this way. The first 2 were legitimately married so I didn't get their number, the 3rd I'm meeting up with tomorrow :D
/r/seduction21/09/17 12:39 PM
3

You change your life so it becomes fun and you become fun.
/r/seduction21/09/17 04:26 AM
1

Just ask her along because you're going anyway and it will be fun, how you act on the date is what makes it a date.
/r/seduction20/09/17 11:51 AM
2

Depends which country we're talking, but why not approach them where they are already there, like at a cafeteria table. If it's Thailand for example, I know many of them just don't 'get' foreigners, and will blank you like that (though some will see whiteys as a fetish on the other hand). They are probably also self conscious about their lack of english, so if you make some attempt at speaking their language they will be 10x more receptive.
/r/seduction20/09/17 11:50 AM
2

An easy way in is a high five when it's appropriate to kick things off. Also touching on the arm below the shoulder if you're face to face talking when you're laughing etc. One of my go-to things is inspecting their jewelery etc when you're sitting talking. "hey whats the story behind this?" then take their hand to look at their bracelet/ring. If they have a ring make a joke about it being a wedding ring. If they're keen they'll be quick to shut down the idea that they're with anyone. But don't …
/r/seduction20/09/17 01:52 AM
2

Just do it, and try not to be invested in the outcome. It will be very hard to force yourself to do it, but the fact is, this is the part you can't skip, no matter how much reading you do. Rejections aren't bad, and don't mean anything about you, the girl could have anything going on in her life, be too busy, etc. I finally got the courage to ask for the number of this checkout girl at my supermarket. Even though she always came over to talk to me, always smiled at me, I was still frozen with fe…
/r/seduction20/09/17 01:36 AM
1

You aren't being sexual. You can't just be nice, it doesnt sexually attract girls. You need to be very touchy, joke and talk about sex. I face the same problem, at least once you know what you're doing wrong and can start doing it correctly. Of course some will not like it, but its all about taking the risk beyond your, and their, comfort zone.
/r/seduction20/09/17 12:09 AM
1

Assuming there is 100% chance you won't be having sex, do you still want to hang out with them? That's your choice.
/r/seduction19/09/17 07:44 AM
1

fuck off
/r/seduction18/09/17 12:12 PM
3

Yeah never say the word date.
/r/seduction18/09/17 04:04 AM
1

Yeah, I used to crush it when I got drunk. Nowadays it makes me anxious and mildly angry after just a few drinks. No need to touch the stuff. If you were doing daygame it certainly wouldnt be an option.
/r/TheRedPill18/09/17 01:50 AM
4

Have you ever been out on a saturday morning in town when the sun is shining, people going to cafes, walking their dogs? They are socialising. Surely you've seen people talking about their dogs, the weather, etc. Some of them are guys and girls who never met. In their case the dog was the excuse, but do you need one? You are a guy, she is a girl, you wanted to say hi. I've met with a tinder girl in the day, we walked around a park and my house was nearby so we got some drinks and dropped by my h…
/r/seduction18/09/17 01:41 AM
9

Ever read any pickup stuff? Try Models by Mark Manson. Yeah, you're a bit bitter but it's not actually wrong. It really is life on easy mode for even a 5/10 girl. 9 out of 10 guys are invisible to all women... Until they want something from you of course, when they then turn on the smiles and push their boobs in your general direction. Hard to blame them though, it's just what they learned to do since they were about 15. Blame other guys for bending over backwards for people who have little valu…
/r/MGTOW18/09/17 12:16 AM
1

Why would you want a virgin?? They'd lie there like a dead starfish.
/r/seduction16/09/17 01:00 PM
1

If you do that you have reduced your chances from 5% to -100%. Can't you tell how pathetic it is? Just forget about her, if she says it's a deal breaker then I doubt you can turn it around. The fact you're so hung up on 1 girl pretty much guarantees it's gone.
/r/seduction16/09/17 01:09 AM
2

10th date? If you haven't had a lot of sex yet then you are never going to man.
/r/seduction14/09/17 01:29 PM
7

I knew a guy who could mistify everyone at the pub with his magic tricks. I jokingly said 'you must get laid so much'. He said no, they watch it, but at some point the novelty wears off and you're stuck with your (lack of) game.
/r/seduction14/09/17 03:44 AM
1

It wouldn't really have been weird to ask for her number. Next time you're walking just bring up something cool you are going to do on the weekend and ask if she wants to come along. Then you trade numbers. That's better than just asking for the number, but even that wouldn't go too badly based on the limited info.
/r/seduction14/09/17 02:44 AM
2

Look, I would strongly suggest that you evaluate whether he was serious or trolling.
/r/seduction14/09/17 02:42 AM
1

Enjoying the validation, or enjoying pulling your strings I guess. Maybe if you spent some time interacting with other girls and partly ignoring her she would have actually let you escalate.
/r/seduction14/09/17 02:14 AM
7

It seems legit if she offered up another time. No need to freak out.
/r/seduction12/09/17 11:40 AM
3

Still simple and relevant information though.
/r/seduction12/09/17 11:39 AM
5

Fuck, just do it. Just talk to girls, just try to hang out with them, just try to hold their hand and kiss them after talking for a while. It's not much harder than that. Some of them will say no, hell, even 9 out of 10 will say no probably. But that happens to the guys who do get laid a lot, they just talk to 100 girls in the same time you talk to 3 girls. Who cares about being a virgin, it doesn't actually get easier or harder after you've had sex once. Sooner or later you will regret what you…
/r/seduction12/09/17 09:44 AM
1

To get it out of the way he may as well do any girl though. Then it's not this Big Thing.
/r/seduction12/09/17 09:32 AM
1

I'd say lose the selfies. If you have to have a selfie include some sort of hobby like your guitar if you play it?
/r/seduction12/09/17 09:31 AM
1

I was a bit like this with my first girlfriend ever. Eventually a girl gives you a chance even though you fuck up over and over again. This is your girl. It's not about respecting boundaries, it's about taking the risk. The girl will tell you if you overstep the boundaries, and then she'll either let you back off and try again later, or she'll find the best excuse to leave. I've never been 100% sure what's going to happen when I move in for the first kiss with a new girl. But when they've made t…
/r/seduction10/09/17 12:44 PM
2

Is there a communal cafe or lunch room? That seems pretty good where I work for seeing a whole lot of people in the one room during the short time they're relaxing. And you have plenty of excuses to sit down next to someone.
/r/seduction10/09/17 12:11 PM
4

As soon as she started changing the time she took control of you and you lost it. Not that 'it' was a good idea to start with. Just block, ban, rmk as gamers say.
/r/seduction10/09/17 04:37 AM
1

Have your shit together, be passionate about what you do, dress properly. And escalate / be sexual when you have a chance. They will shit test you about your age, but if you own it like 'old enough to be yo daddy' they shouldn't care.
/r/seduction10/09/17 04:36 AM
6

Think of it as her doing you a favour, filtering her shitty self out of your life. If you talk to her again, it means you accept her treating you like dirt.
/r/seduction10/09/17 02:04 AM
1

Update for anyone who cared. I was there tonight and she said hi and smiled when I first came in. She was in the self serve area so it would have legitimately awkward to try and have a conversation over the barrier. I went around the store and found the few items I needed. The fear set in as I knew I couldn't walk around forever. Eventually I went in. Went to a self serve terminal and like clockwork she came over. Chatted a bit about whatever. I had the chance to just say bye like always. But i …
/r/seduction09/09/17 11:11 AM
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Reframe the fear. I'm excited, not scared. Excited to meet these people. Although canned lines and openers are usually bad, at least figure out the first thing you're going to say. "Hey, how's your night so far?" "What's the occasion?" etc.
/r/seduction09/09/17 08:09 AM
1

Nah, Melbourne Australia
/r/seduction07/09/17 02:52 AM
1

Hadnt heard of it, i mainly just use any random youtube video as a guide. Having a read now..
/r/seduction07/09/17 01:02 AM
2

It sounds a bit thirsty tbh. I mean it works for a very high value guy but without ripped ab photos or evidence you're a frat leader or something, no chance. You could put some pics that leave out your face so they have some idea what they're getting into. Curious though, any matches/responses so far?
/r/seduction07/09/17 12:49 AM
7

That your mental state is your own choice. If you're getting fucked up by anxiety, overthinking, sadness, depression, get out of it. Meditate. It literally resets your brain.
/r/seduction07/09/17 12:44 AM
1

Sounds like she's keen but unless there is some chemistry there, don't do it just because you're on a dry spell. As you said she's not attractive, so is it really worth the risk of what could happen afterwards?
/r/seduction06/09/17 01:39 PM
2

anywhere you want. Every type of place has a different demographic. Churches, clubs, supermarkets, art galleries.
/r/seduction06/09/17 12:50 PM
1

What the christ.
/r/seduction06/09/17 12:35 PM
12

This is what you are going to get 75% of the time. Don't send any more, and act normal (not angry) when you see her. She either gets back to you now or she doesn't. You can't do much else.
/r/seduction03/09/17 02:13 PM
3

Um, was she really drunk? Or no particular reason why it happened? It would be genuinely really embarrassing to the point where she wants to crawl into a hole and die. I should know, I did it in a friend's car after I drank a whole bottle of vodka. It's the last thing I remember before making an utter fool of myself for the next 6 hours (somehow without passing out in a gutter). I couldn't face him for 6 months until he came around and banged on my door until I opened it, and pretty much told me…
/r/seduction03/09/17 02:08 PM
1

I'll answer based on my experience in the past. I've chatted up a few cashiers and a barista, one said she had a boyfriend when I asked for her number, the other 2 were legitimately married (I had a quick FB stalk to check) but still seemed to love talking to me even after rejecting me on the number. Each time I played the long game, as I was legitimately regularly there shopping or buying coffee (and also pretty shy about asking them out). Try to get a quiet moment to talk about what they're do…
/r/seduction03/09/17 02:01 PM
3

You can go outside and get much more marginal benefit by actually doing stuff.
/r/seduction03/09/17 08:42 AM
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Millennial women seemed to be turned off from funny, confident, nice, and assertive men. They mainly go for guys who will shower them with gifts, and are very superficial. Not to be rude, but what on earth are you on about?
/r/seduction03/09/17 08:40 AM
3

They might let you know from their reaction, or won't you quickly figure out of they are at university just by talking?
/r/seduction03/09/17 08:36 AM
3

The girl isn't going to interrogate you about it. My pic has my dad's dogs in it, he lives in another state.
/r/seduction03/09/17 01:59 AM
3

I get a lot of comments on my dog pic. Do that.
/r/seduction03/09/17 12:27 AM
7

I think it must be some vibe you're giving off / the type you attract. Most don't do any that shit.
/r/seduction02/09/17 01:08 PM
3

Why are there so many cringey responses? Cmon guys, you should know better. There is no magic 'pickup line' or response here. She is just saying that she knows the OP is trying to buy her affection and she's making it clear that it isn't happening. It's no way comparable to the usual 'we aren't having sex tonight'. She doesn't know you, she can't be attracted, so this isn't an 'objection', its just 'you are free to give me a ticket if you still choose to knowing that I'm not interested'. Interes…
/r/seduction02/09/17 04:16 AM
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Well, a guy should get SOME idea that you're keen if you smile, say hi, maybe even comment on something about his appearance like his hair or shirt. Simply because this never happens to most guys they'll realise something is going on. Simply being friendly is enough of a signal 'hey, its ok to keep talking to me'. So if they're attracted to you, thats how you give them the invitation to pick up.
/r/seduction02/09/17 03:18 AM
1

It's actually quite simple to lose weight and get in shape. Simple, but not easy. You just have to commit over time and minimise relapsing to your old ways. Look up Stronglifts 5x5 and stop eating any sugar/bread/rice/pasta.
/r/seduction31/08/17 12:17 PM
1

No, you don't..
/r/seduction31/08/17 12:11 PM
2

Yeah, do not say that. What she really means is show you have emotions.
/r/seduction30/08/17 04:11 PM
2

Approaching is a start, you're above what a lot of guys will ever do. But don't look for love. You can't love someone without knowing them for months. So what you want to do is connect with people. Share yourself. I recommend reading Models by Mark Manson. It's on Kindle, or you can probably pirate it if you really have to if you're poor. It gets you in the mindset of what you need to become. Get to lifting. I have been doing an intensive weights program (I can link it if you want) which is 5 da…
/r/seduction30/08/17 12:34 PM
1

I don't have many female friends but I feel like this is just using them?
/r/seduction30/08/17 12:26 PM
1

It's a start. But think if a stranger came up and asked you questions. It's actually kinda boring like a job interview. You have to involve feelings and emotions because that's how girls communicate. Once you ask their major for example, ask what they're going to be when they graduate. Ask why they want to do it. Try to understand them.
/r/seduction30/08/17 12:24 PM
1

Yes. I didn't have sex until I was about 23. And since then probably about 20 girls. Some of them really hot, and some of them a great connection that lasted years. You really, truly are very young with plenty of time.
/r/seduction30/08/17 12:22 PM
1

Not all guys realise that girls might be just as nervous as we are about rejection. They might not realise they're a 'hot chick'. They need a signal for them to do anything if we aren't in the position to do it like this guy..
/r/seduction30/08/17 12:00 PM
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You might have to be a bit cheeky about it. It should work because you're already getting IOI's. In the second story, catch her eye and smile, and at the very least show her you're keen and approachable. The first story, its bold, but maybe something like 'im not a piece of meat, at least stop and say hi!'. Already getting IOIs probably means you can be a lot bolder than a cold approach.
/r/seduction30/08/17 04:37 AM
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I've certainly been there before. "hmm, she invited herself into my hotel room. She cant really be interested interested though" "ha, now shes curled up with me in bed. Thats wierd" Etc etc.
/r/seduction28/08/17 02:04 AM
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Yeah, don't send that text. 'pretend' (or actually become) that you're a guy who has stuff on and is getting lots of girls. He would text once, twice, then on to the next. She will then either message you back because she's into you enough, or she won't, meaning she wasn't into you. You have to legitimately not care if you have any particular girl. 'Want her, but don't need her'. Be out there working on more options.
/r/seduction27/08/17 07:40 AM
1

Ahh dear, that sounds maybe even worse for the girl than you! I'm heading back shortly, gotta stock up on milk!
/r/seduction27/08/17 03:03 AM
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Thanks for the tough love. I know they're pathetic, and that's why I posted this. Because they don't even make sense. I'll be back there tomorrow.
/r/seduction26/08/17 01:58 PM
2

Do you mean she said (while at the pub) that she will be alone at home? Because yeah that's basically inviting you for sex. I think in that situation you either have to quietly tell your friend to leave so you can chat to the girl alone and then see if she wants to take you home. If you can't do that, get her number and tell her you'll meet her tomorrow night.
/r/seduction26/08/17 12:37 PM
1

Further to my other reply, she's so obviously down, please don't waste this! She's spelling it out for you. You don't get a lot of those unless you're a young Brad Pitt!
/r/seduction26/08/17 12:35 PM
3

Can you meet her at some uni pub night? It probably doesn't matter what day of the week, if it's a decent size town there will always be a bar having something. Strike while the iron is hot, on Monday night if you have to. Sounds like you don't really even need any advice. I'd just make sure you keep the physical escalation going. Stop her for a kiss after not too long when you meet her again. But she's clearly keen.
/r/seduction26/08/17 12:34 PM
1

Wait how would I do that? I feel like I'm just invading their private space then. They are probably wanting to talk to friends. They're WITH friends and talking to them, yes. But they're in a place made for socialising. If you come across as being someone they want to talk to then it's like any other place where they might be approached. I've got a mate with no fear. He will just see a room and pretty much go through all of the girls he likes. If they're at a table he'll kinda go up and just rub…
/r/seduction26/08/17 10:09 AM
1

Haha, 26? You're basically a grandpa. Or not. I'm 31 and plan to kill it. My last girlfriend was 24 (21 when we met), and girls that age NEED lots of sex. They certainly don't want to think about marriage or babies.
/r/seduction26/08/17 09:39 AM
1

Shes either fucked in the head or creeped out/overwhelmed. Going by the 'song', probably the latter :/
/r/seduction26/08/17 08:47 AM
1

I doubt anyone here knows who or what Todd is, or what happened to him.
/r/seduction26/08/17 08:46 AM
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You have to be on the same wavelength. Talking is not the same wavelength as dancing. They're trying to have fun, and talking to them is pulling them out of the fun zone without you having the 'status' to justify it. Try talking to people who are already at the bar or tables, but yeah expect mostly rejections. Dance floor game really involves being able to dance and have fun while barely noticing there are even girls there. If you are genuinely having fun they'll notice and want to join in. I kn…
/r/seduction26/08/17 04:51 AM
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Ahh it sucks. Not every girl cares, but I think since this girl was just looking for a good fucking she knew you wouldn't deliver. So she's kinda right - find a girl who actually likes you to get it done with because it will be more about the overall connection with that girl (and try not to hurt her in the process, try to be sure you actually like her too). While normally I'd say stay away from porn, try to find some 'natural' porn to see how the guy moves the girl. But you basically just kinda…
/r/seduction26/08/17 04:47 AM
2

Doesn't seem to have worked for me.
/r/seduction26/08/17 04:39 AM
1

First, thanks for the first response that wasn't just spam. And I know exactly what you mean by predatory. I know how to do it with a girl I've known for ages because I know she wants me. All about calibration I guess and how far is almost too much (bold) and how much is 'what the fuck you creep'. I guess maxing the eye contact will be the first point, and more 'deliberate'/sexual touching.
/r/seduction26/08/17 02:02 AM
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Act normal like it never happened. I've done this with several supermarket cashiers (who were legitimately married), and after maybe 1 awkward day we were back to chatting like we used to. Its only awkward if you act awkward and butthurt.
/r/seduction25/08/17 02:00 AM
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Very hard to guess with this info or without meeting him. Perhaps hes just truly confident and non needy, so girls are attracted to that. In that case they dont need to 'game' which is essentially just tricking girls into thinking you're like that.
/r/seduction25/08/17 01:55 AM
2

'hey, excuse me' wave while moving into her vision. Its never going to be a perfect opportunity where the girl is just staring ahead with a neon sign that says approach now.
/r/seduction25/08/17 01:08 AM
3

Well its better than being awkwardly frozen like I used to be. So if I can go half way between the 2 I'll be getting laid.
/r/seduction25/08/17 12:33 AM
1

Well its probably a good sign that she showed you at least. Maybe make a joke about how shes just jealous and you have a friend she can meet. Then go back to what you were talking about. You have to not react or start 'defending' yourself.
/r/seduction24/08/17 11:50 PM
1

Well, don't react angrily to her even though she's a cunt. You could say something like 'dont be jealous amanda. By the way, it's 'to' not 'too' ;) '. Thats if you were meant to see that message. Not sure if its a social media comment section or a text convo your girl sent to you.
/r/seduction24/08/17 11:33 PM
12

Sorry but every girl has 100 creepy indian cringelords spamming them all day long. You'd be lucky if they even see your message. If you have pics of your shredded abs maybe you have a chance..
/r/seduction24/08/17 11:14 PM
10

If they're not actually talking on the phone then they're on it because they're bored. If anything it's an invitation.
/r/seduction24/08/17 11:12 PM
1

It was MUCH easier 2 years ago. I fucked a few average girls, probably rate them about 5 or 6. They just wanted to get laid so it was really easy. I met a few slightly hotter ones but needed game which I didn't have. Nowadays its hard to get any response. Try Bumble instead, the girl has to message first. I get slightly more matches and the girls seem more willing to actually chat.
/r/seduction23/08/17 11:42 PM
1

In the context of this sub/issue though, the guy is just projecting perfection onto a girl he barely met just because she's the only one he has talked to in a month.
/r/seduction23/08/17 11:36 PM
1

Even if a girl genuinely means well, they do not know how their own mind works, nor how any other girl's works. The last thing you should do is listen. You have to escalate or you are friend zoning YOURSELF.
/r/seduction23/08/17 11:34 PM
1

Do something that girls do, so you can have an interest/passion to talk about, and can meet girls in a setting where it's acceptable to meet them. I suggest yoga classes. Theres always at least 5mins before and after class that you can chat to girls (and guys since you're probably awkward with them too). Ask basic stuff like if they have been coming there long, then maybe stuff that goes a bit deeper like whats the main reason they do yoga for. IT DOESNT HAVE TO BE COMPLICATED. Hi, I'm John. Nic…
/r/seduction23/08/17 11:05 PM
1

Well, here's my anecdote. A few years ago on an online dating site, I met this Thai hottie who was in my city studying English. I met up with her, and within a week we were fucking. Somehow the loser me of a few years ago pulled it off. She was like, goddamn, the kind of girl that every guy we walked past would look at her, then me, then back at her with his jaw dropping, or giving me a thumbs up, or something. She was that smoking hot. And she was great in bed too, really young like 21 but I th…
/r/seduction13/08/17 03:07 PM
2

Meh, what can you do now? We all have off days, and it kinda sucks when you had plans for the time you knew you would run into her, like how everything would go perfectly, but then it bombed. Just proceed as if you killed it, who knows what will happen.
/r/seduction13/08/17 02:43 PM
1

Photos of you doing stuff , with friends, etc. Selfies will kill you, or having no friends in any photos.
/r/seduction13/08/17 12:58 PM
3

Look at this sex god getting up to the 5 message mark.
/r/seduction13/08/17 12:54 PM
3

I've almost never seen a solo girl at a bar. If they are they're so drunk it'd be illegal to have sex with them. You're going to find them at least in pairs if not 3's.
/r/seduction13/08/17 12:51 PM
2

Don't think of the number as a goal, otherwise you aren't concentrating on the conversation. Remember: have fun!
/r/seduction06/08/17 02:21 PM
3

What the fuck, come on. No, is the answer. If the only basis for them meeting you is money then why not just go to a proper hot prostitute? At least then you'll get a 10/10 instead of a crazy internet cat lady. (dont do that either though). You have to respect yourself. Let some other beta/gamma/omega do that. I just.. didn't know that was a thing, I'm gobsmacked that anyone would be pathetic enough to even consider it.
/r/seduction06/08/17 07:32 AM
1

Where I live they're pretty much only couples and I feel out of place for that reason. Hope that helps
/r/seduction06/08/17 06:59 AM
0

I feel like you could say something like 'yeah, because you're just so hot. But anyway, ...'
/r/seduction06/08/17 04:24 AM
2

The girl is over 14 though.
/r/seduction02/08/17 12:00 PM
1

Cmon dude, that's not even that bad. I went out 2 nights in a row and basically didn't manage a single approach. You're so far ahead it almost is funny.
/r/seduction31/07/17 12:36 AM
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It's just how ditching you is done. Not much 'dealing' to do apart from moving onto the next.
/r/seduction31/07/17 12:32 AM
1

It's pretty much the very worst most cringe worthy thing you could possibly do. I'm assuming you're around 14 years of age?
/r/seduction22/07/17 01:13 PM
1

For anyone who doesn't even know where to start, read up on Stronglifts 5x5. It's not glamorous, but it's slow and steady. If you have no muscle, this is how you get it, without paying a cent. You'll definitely see progress in a month or 2. No 'one wierd tip', no magic pills, as long as you can do your own research on half-decent nutrition as well, you can become reasonably buff.
/r/seduction20/07/17 10:42 AM
0

Wait, aren't you going to try selling me something?
/r/seduction09/07/17 03:35 AM
1

I will suggest one thing - start doing yoga and meditation. You are freaking out just because you're overanalyzing everything. Calm your mind. Look, you don't have to walk up to someone, interrupt what they're doing, and recite some script. You can start by smiling and making eye contact as you walk past them in the street or the shop. Even if you have to move past someone in the supermarket aisle. You can nicely say 'excuse me' and smile as you squeeze past. Same goes for anything, anywhere. Th…
/r/seduction08/07/17 01:01 PM
2

Come on dude. When a girl gets close enough to being naked with you, she's pretty much begging you for sex. Did you even have to post here to find that out, really? If you're really in any doubt, and she does give you one more chance, make a small move and see what happens. Make more physical contact. Say 'hey. I wanna kiss you' if that works. She'll shut you down gently if you escalate gently. It won't be the end of the world. Only you can do it.
/r/seduction08/07/17 12:38 PM
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I did a course recently. A few things I learned - lose the term Approach Anxiety. It turns into this Big Thing that you decide you have, then use it to limit yourself. You're going to have to just approach. Say 'hey, I wanted to meet you. What's your name?' Or something. Then you just ask what shes up to, and find something else from there. If she's studying, what's she studying? etc. It's going to suck the first few times, but rejections actually feel awesome because you expected them to be som…
/r/seduction21/06/17 02:02 PM
1

I'm a fucking awkward weirdo and it's definitely that easy for me in Asia. Just got to have white skin and not be a bitter 50yo sexpat I guess.
/r/seduction18/06/17 01:42 PM
2

Who knows. Personally I can only get Asians, when I go on holiday to Asia I'm like Brad Pitt (or any relevant celebrity), picking up at least once or twice per week, when I come home I'm lucky to kiss a girl once per year.
/r/seduction13/03/17 02:55 PM
2

Being direct and saying you thought she was cute or whatever is far more sincere than 'helping' her with something for no apparent reason. In the second case they know exactly whats up but you're showing you don't have the courage to be direct.
/r/seduction23/01/17 11:52 AM
2

Time to start being more distant, preferably make sure she is aware you are chasing other girls. She'll suddenly become more keen. What's happening here now is she is getting the emotional stuff from you without having to give up the sex side of things. Your last paragraph is correct, it's just a typical situation you're in.
/r/seduction22/12/16 02:27 PM
1

You're overthinking it and possibly getting a lot ahead of yourself. Meet up with them at a bar, have a few drinks, talk, have fun, occasionally touch her, kiss her when she is looking into your eyes and smiling, try and go to her or your place, keep kissing/groping, take each other's clothes off. But don't assume it's happening, as some girls are in it for free drinks, or may never actually meet, or the 2 of you just dont click.
/r/seduction01/11/16 10:35 AM
2

Yeah well I've probably matched with 20 girls in total over 2 years if that helps.
/r/seduction01/11/16 10:33 AM
3

I usually give them 1 more chance then just never message again until they do. That may be never. Your text game may be boring, or maybe you said something awkward, or some girls just chat a bit when they are bored and then something else comes along.
/r/seduction01/11/16 10:31 AM
2

You're replying to a female.
/r/seduction01/05/16 06:32 AM
1

Is Colombo as easy as Bangkok? I might need to try there..
/r/seduction17/04/16 11:19 PM
2

Go to Bangkok for a holiday, if you can't get laid there then there are serious problems going on. I am invisible to girls in my home country, but tinder in bangkok = fish in a barrel. They don't have hang ups about sex generally. Its just something fun they enjoy doing. I had girls inviting me straight to their room, after the first one I was too tired to keep going with a new one the next night :( I'm 29 and still manage to get girls 21-29 when I'm there. You'll have to buy them a few drinks, …
/r/seduction17/04/16 11:18 PM
3

Yep, it's an entirely different culture. I went on a date with an Indian girl in Australia. She was mortified when I tried to kiss her, in public. Her parents would disown her if they know. She came home and slept in my bed that night, but she definitely had some big mental blocks about dating without already being married.
/r/seduction17/04/16 10:47 PM
3

Wine bars in my town are where they go.
/r/seduction14/04/16 03:07 PM
2

I don't see why 1 day in the future is that important. Maybe even a bad idea if you build it up then things don't go as expected. Just go to social stuff in the meantime and otherwise improve yourself. Have fun on the day with no outcome in mind.
/r/seduction14/04/16 09:02 AM
2

Something is worth what people are willing to pay. $3000 isnt that much to some people. If you were having a meltdown over this one sticking point in your life - that is you had no idea about women, and had spare money? Its probably got more utility than a $20k Rolex or a $1000 suit, or even a few $200 nights out at flashy clubs where you get nowhere with women anyway. I can't help thinking it could be worth it, as even though all the info is out there, if some guy is pushing you to approach and…
/r/seduction14/04/16 08:53 AM
1

Pretty much. I am content being alone. Bars are horrific. I am fine interacting with people when I need to but being some social butterfly? Can't imagine why. Great, I'll just turn myself into the complete opposite person I am now to get some pussy. Wait, not even possible.
/r/seduction12/04/16 12:06 PM
1

That and the best case scenario is pretty good too. I'll try it with that mindset next time then. I think my mental block is not wanting to take any risk at all, as historically I'll practically wait until a girl approaches me and gives me far beyond 100% of the signs before I'll do anything. As you can imagine getting laid is rare with this attitude but its easier said than done to change nearly 30 years of that.
/r/seduction03/04/16 03:44 PM
1

Your flatmate seduced her through game or whatever - the dressing up and dinner is icing on the cake only. It's not how to win the heart of a girl, unless she's a gold digger or looking for someone to have kids with. Honestly, the best thing here is to move on, the fact you have to write this much about a girl who doesn't even like you is telling enough that you need to forget her. The only slim chance you have is if she knows you are fucking someone else, and gets jealous of that and also if yo…
/r/seduction02/04/16 09:46 AM
2

I don't know what depraved stuff you did to get the formatting that messed up. (reading post now)
/r/seduction02/04/16 09:40 AM
3

I guess you'll find out when you try to contact them again, if they're flaky/nonresponsive or actually keen still. I mean you did better than getting nowhere, thats for sure, but on 'nights out' a lot of stuff happens in the moment and isn't really 'real', they may or may not have any interest at all now that they're back to reality (and with no alcohol involved). Just get back in touch and find out, probably don't bring up anything too sexual straight away and they'll see you as not being just …
/r/seduction31/03/16 12:41 PM
1

I had a girl try to suck my tongue like her mouth was a vacuum cleaner. It was painful and 'what the fuck'. I guess I perpetuated it though because I didn't take her aside and tell her how bad it was. So yeah, please don't do that at least.
/r/seduction31/03/16 12:38 PM
3

You say you always chat. So you're pretty much good to go, at least way more so than if you just 'chatted her up' one time only. Just go for something like 'theres never enough time to chat in here, we should go for coffee sometime' (substitute coffee with anything else relevant that you know about her like she mentioned that new bar or art museum down the road or something). You'll either get her easily volunteering her number at that point, or a pretty painless let down. I've done similar with…
/r/seduction31/03/16 12:35 PM
1

Could have been either the weed or the nervousness affecting things, don't stress about it though. Try things more sober next time and see how it goes.
/r/seduction28/03/16 11:38 AM
2

I struggle with this also due to the short time frame (supermarket girls instead though rather than theatre). I think all you can do is be so charismatic in the short time frame you have that they'll actually remember you, have a quick but high quality convo every time, and after a few times just lay down something like 'you know there isn't much time to chat here, you should give me your number'.
/r/seduction28/03/16 11:37 AM
1

+1 to The Power of Now, very important book.
/r/seduction27/03/16 01:15 PM
1

Stuff like cafes, library, study areas. Lecture theatres depending on if you're a student there.
/r/seduction26/03/16 06:15 AM
1

I switched to the keto diet about a month ago and I'm having insane results. Energy levels consistent, no 'carb coma' after a big meal, and fat melting off my belly. Also got a PB squat and shoulder press. The keto diet is ~75% of your energy from fats (saturated mostly), ~20% protein, and 0-5% carbs (20-30g spread out over the day MAX). Breakfast if you need it can be bacon, eggs and some fibre in a glass of water. Snacks during the day, macadamia nuts, celery, depending on calorie requirements…
/r/seduction26/03/16 01:11 AM
2

You shouldn't NEED validation to feel good about yourself, that's the thing. I'm in the same situation as when I was at prime partying age I was a skinny rake with horrible skin and mother issues who didn't leave the house because video games were a thing, now I'm about to hit 30 and I'm getting stuff on track in pretty much every aspect of my life. To me it's more about getting what I want and being who I want to be rather than feeling like I'm impressing someone else? A pat on the back from so…
/r/seduction24/03/16 11:22 PM
1

I've done it twice, but both were pretty (very) average looking, like 4's at best. 1 was taiwanese with big boobs and just.. really wierd overall. Another was a chubby self conscious white girl who was too self conscious. Wouldn't go either one again, but at the time it's got to be done to break the dry spell I guess.
/r/seduction24/03/16 01:06 PM
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Lots of upvotes, indicating everyone else suffers the same thing? Start doing some stuff outside of work. Then be friendly while doing it. Then ask people for beers or to a live gig or whatever. Whatever you do should be something you want to do.. group fitness and yoga are my go-to's as they're good for body and mind even if you don't get dates and friends out of it (Which yeah, I don't). It still seems awkward and takes courage to ask people to do something, but hey, if they're friendly and ta…
/r/seduction19/03/16 11:30 AM
1

Do you masturbate or look at porn at all? Cut out both of these and you'll be knocking walls down with your dick in a week or 2.
/r/seduction18/03/16 10:22 AM
1

Carry on like nothing happened, I don't think that age difference is a big deal if there's already over 20 years difference either way.
/r/seduction17/03/16 08:58 AM
2

As the other guy said it might be a bit morally off to do it... But you could always just ask her over for a coffee, or wine depending on the time of day. Sounds like she's definitely comfortable with you so it's no big deal.
/r/seduction17/03/16 08:57 AM
1

It's bad advice, if you are getting lead on then this is perfect bait for her to say 'no, I'm not' which gets you lead on further. Been there, done that.
/r/seduction14/03/16 10:18 AM
2

Wait until you aren't in uni and it's just you alone in your 1 bedroom apartment every night then. At least thats what it will be if you act the same then as you are now. Get out there!
/r/seduction14/03/16 02:32 AM
1

We've all been there, some girls are just really that friendly and don't realise they're leading you on.. or they do realise maybe. Still, act chill and legitimately be friends with them if you can and it doesn't hurt you too much. They might change their mind or have other hot friends / great social circle. It's way better to keep the ball rolling that way than use the same time on cold approaches if possible.
/r/seduction08/03/16 10:28 AM
14

Same. I work out but that's not a passion, I just have to do it because I'll be a fat fuck if I don't. I cook a lot because the keto diet can't be done on fast food, also not a passion . I have nothing that is interesting enough other than video games which I play out of boredom, but some guys can just strum a guitar for hours, weave baskets, or volunteer for homeless kittens. I'd be set if I had a single thing worth putting time into outside of work hours.
/r/seduction06/03/16 11:55 AM
5

Think about what sort of woman has to resort to paying money to meet the type of guys who use internet dating. Then don't do it.
/r/seduction06/03/16 04:35 AM
1

I know what you mean, but I think the 2 I'm thinking of are a little interested. Its a very busy suburb so its not like a small town where 5 people come in every hour. I'll see what i can do later on today..lets hope the younger looking one isnt jail bait
/r/seduction05/03/16 11:37 PM
15

Grats. It's not as bad and awkward as anyone thinks. Worst case, no one really notices you're there - they aren't pointing and laughing at the guy who bothered to try having a fun night. As long as you don't go out and stare at your phone for 4 hours you'll achieve and learn something.
/r/seduction05/03/16 08:22 AM
1

I don't think there is such a thing. Most signs are good for you though. A rejected kiss isn't that bad, it often just means she's not ready just yet. I've had a girl reject my first try, but half an hour later we were naked. 'not serious' could mean 'no relationship'. So maybe she doesn't want a relationship but she's happy to bang. Also, family and lives might not be too bad to talk about, sounds like you got a connection going there. Basically don't overthink it and contact her in a few days …
/r/seduction05/03/16 08:17 AM
1

So is it groups you're afraid of? I know I can't just get rid of your fears but here's how I see it. If you rock up, everyone will meet and greet you in the first 2 minutes. Then they'll all go back to talking amongst themselves. You'll be back to 1 on 1 conversations or maybe a smaller circle of 3-4. Just force yourself along as every time you expose yourself to a scary situation you'll find out it was never as bad as you expected.
/r/seduction05/03/16 03:02 AM
1

You haven't really posted any details at all about the interactions with her. What you talked about, how she was acting, how your and her body language was.. There are likely to be moments where she gave you a look that showed her disgust with what you said and you should have picked up on that. I'll admit I went through a douchebag phase though. I went too far into 'don't give a fuck' to the point of just being disrespectful and idiotic. It could just be that you and her didn't really click... …
/r/seduction05/03/16 02:55 AM
2

Same, I got completely owned by this girl in my neighbourhood, probably because she was really insanely hot like 9/10 model with an ass of the gods. Pulled every one of my strings that I didn't know I had. Had sex a few times just to keep me lured in. After that she was always initiating the chats, always saying how she'd love to hang out as soon as she was done with uni/exams/family stuff etc.. but honestly if you want to see someone you make time for them. Took me months to recover from what s…
/r/seduction04/03/16 01:10 PM
3

Seeing someone might just be a shit test. And notice she didn't say 'boyfriend'. Just go for it and pretend you never heard that part.
/r/seduction04/03/16 01:07 PM
0

Don't think so. What goes on in your pictures is important such as doing cool stuff and being with other attractive people. I am supposedly good looking IRL and I might get 1 response on tinder every month (and its a bot or 200pound whale). Cos I don't have the best social life and my pictures lack in that area.
/r/seduction02/03/16 07:14 AM
2

I've done it once... used to chat her up at my job but she was always with her mum so I didn't want to ask her number. Added her on FB and ended up with an invite to smoke weed at her house... But yeah unless you are mutual friends with someone its just going to be really creepy.
/r/seduction02/03/16 07:12 AM
3

Don't add them if you don't want to. You can say 'I haven't logged in for a while' or 'I never use it'. If they aren't your friend they can't see that you're logged in or posting. Having said that if you're actually getting yourself out there and doing stuff why not start to get lots of photos of you at parties, bars, or whatever else you do?
/r/seduction29/02/16 01:32 PM
1

Just do it, co workers bang all the time, it only matters if you're in some complicated office scenario. When I worked at a supermarket years ago everyone was banging everyone else (except me), no big deal.
/r/seduction27/02/16 05:17 AM
1

Sounds pretty obvious yes, from the way you described it. There isn't always a perfect time, you just have to create a moment of silence and go for it. Doesn't have to be THAT smooth, if she's receptive she's receptive.
/r/seduction24/02/16 09:57 AM
1

Its alpha for the guy to approach. You don't have to come up with anything more crazy than 'hi, I'm John' or 'hi, who are you' or 'we havent met yet'. 90% of it is going to be in the delivery I.e. body language, eye contact and so on.
/r/seduction23/02/16 09:13 PM
6

Erm.. why would you be trying not to say hi. Is there something wrong with saying hi? If I was a girl I'd just walk away out of pure confusion.
/r/seduction23/02/16 01:05 PM
3

Rock bottom is good because you're willing to do anything and it doesn't matter if you fail, right? All you need to do is start dressing well, working out, and actually approaching women no matter how awkward you think it might be,
/r/seduction21/02/16 11:17 AM
5

I got similar once. A stranger randomly punched me in the nose, blood everywhere. Drunk people do drunk things, don't worry about it.
/r/seduction21/02/16 11:16 AM
1

Weed probably killed it for you. I had a similar experience, I used to work at a supermarket and somehow I managed to get this 19yo uni girl (I was about 27 at the time) really into me, she always came shopping with her mum and they were both really awesome and flirty. I had the brilliant idea of adding her on facebook and asking her to smoke weed with me one day and she was a stoner so she agreed! Butttt, I wasnt that experienced with weed, so I was just really anxious the whole time. Any perso…
/r/seduction21/02/16 08:46 AM
2

You've got this perspective that girls are some alien life form. And that it's weird to ever talk to them. If you keep that mindset then you're just going to get more needy and creepy as time goes on. Start talking to girls in 'real life' (clubs just dont 'work' for some of us at first), it only has to be friendly when they're serving you at the shop even. I am nearly 30 and I chatted to the young cashier at my supermarket the other day. Next time I came in she smiled and waved, and she's all sh…
/r/seduction20/02/16 11:49 AM
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Just meet everyone man. The interaction was worth it because you had the courage but if you go out trying to find 1 girl who you didn't really connect with you're just going to be disappointed. Which city are you in? Cos I can guarantee if you and her are there, there's going to be thousands of other hot foreign easy party backpacker girls there. If you get hung up on one of them you've already failed.
/r/seduction20/02/16 11:25 AM
1

Field report.
/r/seduction16/02/16 08:49 AM
3

Just do it. Just start changing everything that is wrong with you, one step at a time. Start yoga to clear your mind and stop anxiety. This is what changed my life the most in the last year. Also relevant, read 'The power of now', that was written by a guy at rock bottom like you. Start /r/nofap for tips on how to quit jerking it. Easy way = just fucking stop. Turn off the porn, delete it all and never look back. A week without, and you'll have the energy to do everything you should be doing. St…
/r/seduction15/02/16 11:57 AM
3

Hey, its what we're all here to be able to do, lets not pretend the hot girls we are after don't do exactly the same. And yeah, I sure do wrap it up, the last thing I'd ever want is a disease or child.
/r/seduction11/02/16 07:47 PM
1

Women are attracted to how you make them feel, partly based on your confidence and your ability to take risks. We can tell from your comments that you're insecure, they sense that right away. Look at the other thread about beta text responses and you're probably making the same mistakes.
/r/seduction11/02/16 02:23 PM
5

When you become a high quality guy then yes you probably would, you're just coming from a place of desperation now. Insecurity makes for an easy lay but its not attractive in a partner.
/r/seduction11/02/16 02:22 PM
1

To allay the fears of the OP, I've met with a few girls for low end meals like dumplings and they've all got out their money expecting to pay for their own. Don't be the one inviting them to some 5 star dining experience thinking you can buy them, that's where you lose.
/r/seduction11/02/16 02:20 PM
3

Tinder is pretty bad if you're not in the top 10% in terms of looks. The girls are generally either 'club/fashionista' types at least in my area. They are picking from the brad Pitt lookalikes and we aren't them. The rest are damaged in some way or undesirable because otherwise they wouldn't resort to that way of meeting guys. Fuck an ugly girl if you can though - i did last night and it gave me more desire to work my way into the pants of hot girls. I feel cheap and used after lowering my own s…
/r/seduction11/02/16 02:18 PM
1

I too have this friend. Um.. I'm not sure. Just try to 'own' it somehow, I guess play along and just have fun. Or go without him and with someone else.
/r/seduction07/02/16 11:13 AM
5

Depends on the situation. I've had it before just because the girl was shy or inexperienced. If they seem happy to keep hanging out with you, just pull back a bit and try again later.
/r/seduction06/02/16 02:45 AM
1

Who told you? I'd honestly rather be able to do that than go after alcoholic trainwrecks in clubs. Sure you might get laid but if you're looking for a well adjusted human being you aren't going to find it grinding on you to miley cyrus at 3am.
/r/seduction04/02/16 01:48 PM
1

I'd LOVE to get 5-10 matches a YEAR who are willing to talk to me and not 200pounds.
/r/seduction01/02/16 11:40 AM
1

I dunno if you have to ask it's probably not happening. You can be normal, friendly, and strike up a conversation about the subjects. Maybe segue into what she's up to for the rest of the day. And if it actually goes well, 'you seem fun, lets hang out another time'. Then I guess you already know how to contact her. And you'll know within one message after that if you just get a 'seen' or if she actually responds.
/r/seduction01/02/16 11:40 AM
2

Doesn't sound too bad. In fact pretty good if it was your first/only try that night! Sucks about your friends though. If they were half interested in game and put themselves out there, being part of a lively crew would give you far more social proof than being the 1 guy dragging the others around. Keep trying, and maybe head out with some more lively characters if you know any!
/r/seduction31/01/16 12:34 PM
1

The girls are in close proximity and there are lots of them. You have reasons to talk to them. There is abundance. I wish I could go back with my current perspective. Try being me, 29. I work in IT, in a basement, with fat/nerdy/indian guys. I have to train to work. The train is filled with annoying children and grey, dead-eyed people in suits that I'm trying not to become. By the time I get home in the evening it is dinner time. To meet anyone I have to drag myself from the house, already prett…
/r/seduction31/01/16 12:31 PM
0

Can't wait till that kicks in for me! I'm 29 and I'll be fucked if I'm interested in any withered old 29 year old who wants babies and careers!
/r/seduction31/01/16 12:24 PM
3

To be fair 2 hours is a long time.
/r/seduction31/01/16 01:28 AM
2

Why not is the question
/r/seduction30/01/16 06:53 PM
1

That and a lot of them seem to think denying your sexuality and turning into some monk forever is the goal. Nope. Sex is great and the point of life is to have it. That's not unhealthy at all. You're right though, if your support group is a bunch of wierdos trying not to jerk 12 times a day to obscure and horrific stuff, that's all you can aspire to.
/r/seduction21/01/16 01:30 AM
1

I have pretty much kicked the habit recently. I can't give you any definite pointers. But you have to just stop yourself. Just do it. You consciously know 'this is a bad idea' when you start looking. But then your mind tricks you into it. I'll just have a look. Then a bit of an edge. Then whoops.. I didn't mean to, but now I can just binge for the day. So you have to just say no, even if it's 'not today'. Then you've made it a bit further and you see more progress then you don't want to throw it…
/r/seduction19/01/16 10:03 AM
3

They are obsessive to the point of being religious about it. Their whole life is 'I am an addict'. I easily quit the 'cycle' after I just left that sub and started doing stuff in real life. Reading a reddit sub all day long and becoming suicidal over accidentally touching your dick doesn't sound like the key to success.
/r/seduction19/01/16 09:57 AM
1

A 0.1% success rate is better than never trying. That's a pretty easy way to guarantee 0%.
/r/seduction19/01/16 09:53 AM
3

Move onto other girls and doing stuff with your life, because she clearly isn't interested and you are sitting there needily staring at facebook. Been there, done that.
/r/seduction19/01/16 09:52 AM
1

Either ditch him or rope him into approaching. Everyone wants to be the guy who at least has the courage to try, he will thank you for it if you can give him the push to get started.
/r/seduction19/01/16 09:51 AM
7

Yes, so she knows what's up. If she rejects you then fine, she wasn't interested. What else can you do, lie?
/r/seduction13/01/16 10:29 AM
3

Yeah. When I first got into the gym when I was younger, I made newbie gains and packed on some nice muscle quickly. Like I just went from a 65kg rake to 80-85kg built. I could suddenly just walk up to girls in a club and kiss them. A few times I should not have done it and got kicked out, other times the girl came home with me shortly after. I went from 1 girlfriend ever to like 5-6 one night stands in a year. When awkwardly trying to dance, some pretty hot girls would sometimes just come up and…
/r/seduction13/01/16 10:27 AM
5

They want sex but they can wait until it comes to them. So just because you haven't got women jumping you doesn't mean they aren't getting laid. I've had a girl who wanted it as many times per day as I could get it up. Which capped at about 5. She'd probably have sex with several guys each day if society didn't say there was something wrong with that.
/r/seduction13/01/16 10:23 AM
1

Dutch courage means alcohol based bravado. I live in Australia and it's a saying here.
/r/seduction13/01/16 10:21 AM
24

I was once caught on a packed train right near a girl and a guy who was obviously a pickup artist. At first my mind automatically tried to put him down, like 'ugh how pathetic, he's got no chance, creepy' etc etc. Eventually I realised shit, he's the one talking to the girl, and by the time I got to my stop, getting her number. I'm the one with the sour look on my face not talking to anyone. Which one is better? I've also got a friend who is ugly, weird and dresses like a 1920's peasant, and not…
/r/seduction13/01/16 10:19 AM
2

Ignore everything she says as girls will say anything to make themselves feel better about the underlying fact - they are not into you any more. I had a girl exactly the same, piss me off by making up excuses, flaking on me, etc. I tried to give an ultimatum but it just suddenly made her pretty creeped out and even more determined not to see me again.... yet still pretending that she wanted to. It was a complete head fuck. She gave me the attachment story too. 'I can't have a relationship with a…
/r/seduction08/01/16 03:22 PM
1

First of all, don't assume anything. If your only goal is to have sex then you might come across as needy and desperate. Let things 'just happen' because you're both relaxed and having fun. Kissing is hard to describe, but apparently I was great at it from the start so I'll try to say what I do. You want to be having fun, and looking into her eyes, and when there's a pause just gently look at her lips and move in. It's always scary when you take the risk because you might get rejected, but don't…
/r/seduction08/01/16 03:18 PM
2

More like they are rejecting your approach in general. Its impossible to portray what you're actually like with a few sentences. Or you might be really attractive but she legitimately has a bf.
/r/seduction03/01/16 03:36 AM
1

Usually it has to be done 'in the moment' unfortunately. I've had plenty of these situations, they are always uninterested the next day.
/r/seduction03/01/16 03:34 AM
1

Assuming it's porn related, you may well need a couple of months before things are working at their full potential.
/r/seduction29/12/15 06:19 AM
1

While the English is a bit sus, I can identify with the content. I had a 4 day weekend which started as 'chilling out and relaxing', by the end I was sleeping, tired and had thrown away all hope of doing anything sociable.
/r/seduction28/12/15 10:26 PM
1

Yep, I know what it's like, but the only way out is to improve things. You have to just work on every aspect of yourself that you can change. Figure out how to enjoy life as your own person. I am supposedly good looking, tall, blonde etc. But women don't flock to me. I have to make far more effort to talk to any at all. So gradually I'm doing that. The bitter, self-loathing, woe-is-me attitude is one I had as bad as you about 2 years ago, but you just have to realise that as 'addictive' as this …
/r/seduction28/12/15 12:56 PM
1

Sorry, I did see the part about your nationality before I finished writing my post but I forgot to change it. It really is your attitude that is the problem. The more bitter and angry you are, the more it becomes self fulfilling. Women don't care what you want to get from them, they care what you are offering them. A guy that makes them feel good (provides value) is one they want to hang around with, and thus when the guy wants to escalate of course they won't resist. As for the gigolo comment I…
/r/seduction28/12/15 12:42 PM
8

Yeah, you probably shouldn't have said you were on there 'just to get laid'. That might have been the killer phrase. Girls don't like being a means to an end. More diplomatically, 'to meet new people and see what happens' maybe. Having said that she sounded a little bit indecisive and crazy. I wouldn't bother messaging her again, but theres a slim chance she'll booty call you in a few days. Move on though, IMO.
/r/seduction28/12/15 11:54 AM
1

I have been in the same mindset, years ago. Here's my opinion: So what? In every porno there are ugly guys fucking perfect 10's that I'll never meet no matter what I do with my life from here on. I used to care (while spending a lot of time... using this material), and get some sort of aching sorrow. Like the one thing I want so badly is already gone. Yet I could almost reach into the screen and touch her. And reading all the (probably fake) threesome field reports here I felt the same. How can …
/r/seduction28/12/15 11:41 AM
1

Fucking hell, this reminded me. I used it while I was in asia. Taiwan, oh god. The girls there. Except this one who was practically a supermodel in her photo but short, dumpy and weird in real life. The photo was her, but I don't even know what she did to look that hot in it compared to real life. Then she wanted me to bang her in the grounds of Taipei arena, but I wasn't keen on taking the risk, she simply wasn't hot enough.
/r/seduction28/12/15 10:21 AM
1

Well, a fixed number doesn't mean much. More like, approach a girl that you know you'd regret not approaching. If you're approaching an ugly or otherwise unattractive girl for the sake of a number it's not an achievement.
/r/seduction26/12/15 05:59 AM
2

There's plenty to improve on, so that's your starting point. Unless you are literally bed bound it can be done. Stop the pity party, it doesn't help. Start the improvement. Gym, diet, hobbies.
/r/seduction25/12/15 08:05 AM
1

Its small talk / good customer service / stopping an awkward silence while they write checks or bag groceries or whatever they are doing. Its more about their body language if there's anything more to it. Also if the questions are more personal than what you might expect then they might be keen.
/r/seduction25/12/15 12:58 AM
2

Yeah, what did they say? You left out the most important thing here. Also not sure your line is that great, it might just open you up for an attack if they aren't 101% keen already.
/r/seduction25/12/15 12:54 AM
1

Hmm, I didn't get offered drinks while I was there but you probably shouldn't. I was happy to have a friendly chat but its kinda leading them on if you accept a drink isn't it? (Plus spiking risk)
/r/seduction25/12/15 12:49 AM
48

I've been to a few with some gay friends, it just made me wish I was gay because I could get laid in 10 minutes every night instead of once a year
/r/seduction24/12/15 10:29 AM
2

She was a bit volatile yeah. I stopped seeing her after she went a bit heavy on the drinking and stacked on lots of weight. But older women generally know what they want and don't play games. They aren't normally my target market, I like uni age girls, but this was a bit of fun.
/r/seduction19/12/15 10:30 AM
1

Invite her over for a smoke then, perfect. Chilled out music, something funny to watch, etc. She's completely keen by the sounds of it so trust me, its easier than when you're not sure where you stand!
/r/seduction19/12/15 08:15 AM
2

Well as cliche as it is, 'netflix and chill' is popular for a reason. Don't say that specific phrase because it's a bit sleazy, but if you have any excuse to get her over then just work on sitting close so you're touching, doing something fun/relaxing so its not awkward. And when you're having fun together and laughing etc, you just have to kinda stop, look her in the eyes, my personal go-to move is to have my thumb on her upper cheek with the rest of the fingers round the side and back of her h…
/r/seduction19/12/15 04:41 AM
1

You don't need to ask, IMO. Just act as if he is her brother or friend, and she'll reject you if she wants to. Even if she says its her boyfriend will that be the truth? You'll never know.
/r/seduction19/12/15 04:05 AM
3

Jesus yes just fuck her. I had an older chick like that and she was great fun. Invited me over for a 'drink' and was blowing me in the kitchen before I knew it. That and she didn't get clingy or crazy after we'd had sex. Just do it and you'll have a better experience than some game playing idiot in her early 20's, that's for sure.
/r/seduction19/12/15 04:03 AM
1

Not necessarily ignore, but just do your own thing. If she's not actively chasing you down to apologise or at least speak to you, then she's not interested. She would have offered another specific day if she was still interested. It's only awkward from now on if you let it be. Just pretend it's a mate who couldn't make it out for a beer. You wouldn't stare at him awkwardly every time you passed so treat her the same.
/r/seduction19/12/15 04:01 AM
6

Never tell a girl you like her like that. You're very lucky you still have any chance at all. Just invite her over and get down to it.
/r/seduction19/12/15 03:59 AM
1

There is a day-by-day guide on this site: http://www.goodlookingloser.com/ (NOT WORK SAFE) Link to the guide page: http://www.goodlookingloser.com/anxiety/program Just avoid all the bullshit the site tries to sell you like dick enhancement, apart from that it has some useful content.
/r/seduction18/12/15 10:32 PM
1

Even though I can't do it myself... think of times it has happened to you, surely it has. Usually it's an old guy because they love to talk. It doesn't have to be a debate about politics in the Serbian wastes, it's more often something situational like the line in the store. One old guy came up to me while I was chaining up my bike and said 'what's the combination'? I laughed and said 'its a secret'. Then he started to tell me how the combination lock on my bike is very easy to break. This conve…
/r/seduction18/12/15 10:29 PM
1

Everyone who does exactly what society tells them becomes a boring slave / drone. Think of anyone successful, motivational, or famous. They didn't just do nothing and keep their head down and avoid people in between working their shit-end job.
/r/seduction18/12/15 10:24 PM
5

It's kind of a natural reaction to your situation, if anything.
/r/seduction18/12/15 10:22 PM
3

Women respond to you at all on dating sites? Look out, we got Fabio in the house here folks. But yes as others have said, you are seeing the wrong type of women. They aren't all utter cunts like what you've described.
/r/seduction18/12/15 10:20 PM
3

An inexperienced guy just gets himself hurt though. At that stage I could never just bang a girl without feeling for her. Now I'm so jaded and cynical I struggle to care about any.
/r/seduction12/12/15 05:53 AM
3

Nearly everyone here has probably gone through the same. I had a really hot like porn star level of looks girl approach me at my supermarket register. Within a few days she invited me round to her house at night. I didn't know what was going on. Thought it was a joke even as I was taking her pants off to fuck her. She kept saying how much she liked me. I went away for 3 weeks. 'I missed you'. I screw up badly by telling her I really like her. A few days later she has a boyfriend on Facebook who …
/r/seduction12/12/15 05:50 AM
1

Yep. I'm nearly 30 in a new city. It is an uphill battle to get even a few friends to stick, so now I'm pretty much resigned to the fact I'll probably never have any close ones.
/r/seduction12/12/15 05:42 AM
16

Validation. Checking that she still has you on the hook. Ignore / block. If there's zero chance you'll be banging her , why give her the satisfaction of toying with you?
/r/seduction12/12/15 05:38 AM
1

I'd probably have the courage to do it myself if I thought it would go that well.
/r/seduction12/12/15 05:36 AM
1

Boyfriend doesn't always mean much. You can argue that you shouldn't plow another man's field, but if she's willing to do it, may as well be the guy. Not if she's married though I guess. But I've known plenty of girls who 'cheated' then ended up in a relationship with the new guy, so if you're the better choice for her why not treat her right and take what's on offer? Sometimes she is in a tired relationship with a guy she really liked in high school but now he's a boring beta she just feels stu…
/r/seduction06/12/15 04:53 AM
1

One of the only times I ever managed to approach was at a train station. The train was delayed so I just went up to this Indian girl and asked how long she had been waiting. I could see from the eye contact she was keen. Got her number by the end of the 5minute train journey. Went out for a drink a few days later. She was very traditional Indian, at first hesitant because I obviously had no plan to marry her. Even kissing at the bar she was like 'omg everyone is watching' (no one was) and 'my pa…
/r/seduction06/12/15 01:59 AM
5

You didn't make a move and she got bored I think. I know its hard when you're inexperienced, but if a girl is in your bedroom you are getting laid 90% of the time. Her being there is the green light. This one is gone (never speak to her or reply again), but next time just turn to her and kiss her. She'll either kiss back or say wtf are you doing, and you'd have to have misread things very badly to get the second reaction.
/r/seduction06/12/15 01:51 AM
1

I guess I'm struggling with the actually getting started part. I've slept with some hotties before, but it's always been what felt like blind luck / them approaching me. Can't get past the approach stage. I'm not exactly 'scared' any more but my mind will come up with anything. Like I'm not dressed well enough, or she's too young, or she's not just sitting there so I can't step in front of her to stop her... and so it goes on.
/r/seduction05/12/15 01:37 PM
6

You were probably meant to bang her in the stationary closet on the night, and the moment is lost now and she doesn't want to feel like a slut. Was it a 'friendly' catchup or more like she regretted it and wanted to tell you to back off?
/r/seduction05/12/15 10:57 AM
1

What do you think is the real problem here? Even an ugly or short guy has to get success in that time as those things are detrimental but only 1 part of the game.
/r/seduction05/12/15 10:18 AM
2

What you see in porn movies and posts on here probably actually happens to 5% of people or less. Lucky them, but what can you do? I kinda felt like I wanted to somehow chase that because I never got it, but I'm being realistic. If I did, I'd never be any more than 'that wierd old guy' who manages to find a party somehow and no one really knows who he is or why he is creeping on all the girls. More realistic = trying to become attractive and game-y enough to fuck a few more college aged girls bef…
/r/seduction05/12/15 09:34 AM
17

Where do you actually start with fashion? Before anyone just links to one of the subs here, most of them seem to be a guide how to dress like a young and still fairly awkward looking hipster (I'm 29). I know my wardrobe is complete garbage, loose jeans and a plain grey vneck shirt at best, but I just have absolutely no idea where to begin. Summer is almost here and its easier to 'get away' with board shorts and a T-shirt. But say its time to go clubbing, whatever I wear makes me feel like an awk…
/r/seduction04/12/15 04:47 AM
0

Essentially. Almost no one in that sub will ever get laid. Toxic, angry little kids.
/r/seduction04/12/15 04:35 AM
1

Do you know the girl already or you're trying to cold-pickup through the internet? Cos the second won't work.
/r/seduction02/12/15 12:14 PM
1

In this day and age, any normal girl will fuck you within 2-3 dates if not the first. It doesn't matter what they 'do' or 'don't' 'do', if you're the right guy.
/r/seduction02/12/15 11:44 AM
1

"Think of what's against me: no ability to socialize in groups, no security of finance or future, no worldly knowledge (I'm a "confused" guy), poor understanding of what people want (particularly women), virtually no social skills. What is going FOR me?" Well, there's a list of things to work on. Wouldn't it be cool to become a person that you like to be? Enjoy living? That's when you start to naturally attract people. Read up on Stronglifts 5x5, start lifting, get huge. At the same time, learn …
/r/seduction02/12/15 11:39 AM
1

Jacking off is pretty sad, and changes your personality for the worse over time especially if you use porn. Stop for a month and see what I mean. And yeah, it takes effort to get laid. Years, even (for some of us, anyway). But in the process, you get ripped, find hobbies, and start to find purpose in life. Smashing a hot girl is pretty damn cool, as well. Like you're actually there, and not just staring at a screen depicting some leathery, fake old boiler who had hundreds of thousands spent on p…
/r/seduction02/12/15 11:15 AM
1

I am 6 foot 1 and it barely helps (I generally get laid once per year), so please stop with that. I'd much rather be 5 foot 5 without the confidence issues.
/r/seduction02/12/15 11:13 AM
1

Is it possible you're getting a reputation as 'that guy', like several girls have talked to each other and you had tried to pick up each of them?
/r/seduction30/11/15 11:03 AM
2

I know what you mean by the last part but people took it the wrong way. I went to salsa class, because everyone here seems to just do it then immediately find themselves balls deep with a minimum of 5 new girls per night. Why not, hey? Nope, not me, I hated it. It was the most awkward thing ever, it was half robotic girls who can't dance (1-2 really good ones) and wouldn't even make eye contact, half awkward robot guys clearly also there to pick up or improve their dating life rather than actual…
/r/seduction30/11/15 10:58 AM
1

Join some meetup.com groups and get some fun photos with vaguely attractive strangers.
/r/seduction30/11/15 06:08 AM
1

It gets old very quickly.
/r/seduction29/11/15 07:03 AM
13

Just going for it instead of waiting. This applies to asking out an internet girl, trying to kiss a girl, initiate sex... Waiting is almost always the worst choice in many situations.
/r/seduction29/11/15 07:01 AM
6

The only way you can show you don't give a fuck is by not interacting with her. Just ignore her, they're always an ex for a reason. Block, ban, rmk. I apply the same rule to bad players in video games, and girls in real life. It's hard to do but you have to do it, and when you look back on this moment in 1 year you'll agree with me, trust me. I've been through the process of clinging on to exes before, it basically just prolongs your suffering every time you contact them again, and stops you bei…
/r/seduction25/11/15 03:25 PM
1

I'm a long way from there and with not much opportunity to go there any time soon. Though I did meet some really cute and cool Lithuanian girls when I was there about 5 years ago. Too bad most of them are mainly after money because it's impossible to earn more than about $4 an hour there.
/r/seduction25/11/15 02:05 PM
2

As an ugly white guy, man it's almost too easy. Some times I've been thinking 'is this a candid camera show? Is it really happening?' I am 29 for reference. I met a 21yo thai girl who was in my country, took her home a few days later. No resistance at any point, no games, she was going in for the kiss within 30 mins of meeting me for the first time. Gave me enough hints to take her home. I visited her in thailand a few times (most recently last month), eventually had to cut contact because she w…
/r/seduction25/11/15 12:20 PM
3

Yep, sounds like it's one of those times where you had every sign to go for it 'in the moment', which is now probably lost. Certainly try following up, if you aren't going to piss off your gf by 'cheating' (which it doesn't sound like you're commited so w/e). But you might find she acts nothing like how she was on the night, even if she wasn't drunk.
/r/seduction25/11/15 12:10 PM
1

If you still need a rating, message me.
/r/seduction25/11/15 12:06 PM
2

You simply don't be, and having to ask means you can't fake it. When you have enough going on and you have reached the mental state that you REALLY don't actually care that much, then you won't be sitting there analysing every time it says 'seen' and you don't see her typing back. Or asking yourself if it's too soon or not soon enough to reply, and agonising for 30mins over what to type to make sure it's perfect. I was there, and quite simply, you are either needy or you're not.
/r/seduction22/11/15 12:03 PM
2

No point going for a girl you don't want. Friend zone her and get the friend's contact details so you aren't awkwardly pretending to like one just to see the other.
/r/seduction22/11/15 10:19 AM
2

Well, you have to make some compromise. I used to be kind of like you (not diagnosed with autism or anything though), and sort of still am. I don't like socialising and have very few if any male friends but I get bored alone. Find something constructive or enjoyable and do the group version of it rather than doing something just to say you're being social. Because you have to meet girls somewhere or somehow if you want to get laid. My advice is the gym or something like crossfit if you think you…
/r/seduction22/11/15 10:18 AM
4

Ignore that, and proceed as if you didn't know about it. Some girls will do that shit with their friends because they think it's funny. It doesn't mean anything, her saying 'no' means something when you actually try to escalate.
/r/seduction08/11/15 11:41 AM
2

Um... well, I don't think other people being scammers justify you doing it. How could you get into a situation like that? Which country? And how are you on the internet?
/r/seduction08/11/15 11:36 AM
2

'A week or 2', there's your problem. If I haven't asked them out within 24-72 hours I'm not going to talk to them again. And text how you want to - sounds like she's keen but you just have to DO IT.
/r/seduction08/11/15 11:30 AM
4

Pretty accurate. Also, I've met a few of them who are successful (with white women too), funny, and not utter cringelords like many indians are. So anyone in this sub who wants to blame their race, sorry, but it's all on you as a person.
/r/seduction08/11/15 11:28 AM
1

I restarted it about 4-5 months ago. I've been having some unknown issues with allergies and my lungs though (I can hardly breathe sometimes and the doctors can't figure out what the problem is yet) so I make very little progress. Even the warmup kills me some days. Last year I did about 4 months and got pretty shredded then, a 30 day Paleo challenge helped there but that shit is too expensive and hard to bother with as I have a full time job now and can't spend all my time cooking complicated b…
/r/seduction28/10/15 10:06 PM
1

Well, it got me a 6 pack last year before I ran into some other health issues. So it works for me.
/r/seduction28/10/15 01:45 PM
1

I never use the word date. It's awkward and scares them, mostly. You just say you want to go for a drink/coffee/live show/whatever. Easy.
/r/seduction28/10/15 11:41 AM
1

I guess through activities you do. I do crossfit and yoga, both have a few girls, but it's definitely an uphill battle. Yoga girls seem to flee 0.05 seconds after the class, and crossfit, well, you're all working out. Try doing salsa classes, my mate has some success there and he is so ugly you wouldn't believe it.
/r/seduction28/10/15 11:38 AM
2

Um, this sounds like a really unbelievable urban myth. How many girls are going to the same bar or restaurant? And how many are honestly going to look at or remember what some graffiti says? And then go on to have some interaction with you? If there was such a thing, for you to be memorable enough, you must have done something really horrific like AT LEAST raped and murdered 4 if not 5+ girls. Does that sound familiar? If not, someone is just fucking with you. Every city has probably tens of tho…
/r/seduction28/10/15 11:35 AM
2

Everyone is a prospect to these people, not many people are stupid enough to fall for it so they cast a wide net. Be thankful you didn't spend any money on that scam shit.
/r/seduction26/10/15 08:12 AM
1

I was there in your exact position about 2 years ago. Solution: remove the goal of getting a girlfriend. New goal, improve yourself and become happy. Read models, go to the gym, continue to get into hobbies and group activities, improve your career. You'll naturally start to talk to and land girls when you aren't obsessing about landing girls.
/r/seduction02/10/15 12:46 PM
5

Seduction is a huge industry. So yeah, it attracts spammer fucks. Still, some of them are semi useful if they give away enough content without you having to sign up to some $5000 a day bootcamp. (I'd actually do one of those for say $200 a day to be honest, but the several grand they charge is a joke)
/r/seduction02/10/15 12:41 PM
2

I go to yoga as well. At first it seems perfect, 90% hot girls right? But it's the same for me. You've either got to turn up early and hope that there's anyone else who is early, AND somehow get talking when they're really busy putting their bag away or whatever. Then at the end they all seem to practically run away seconds after the class finishes. Some I've worked up the courage to say hi to, and it's like.. she was over there a second ago. how did she even get out the door in that time? You'v…
/r/seduction21/09/15 09:58 AM
1

Yeah, I'm 6 foot 2, very pale, blonde but almost redhead. In my own country and with white girls, it just doesn't happen. Put me anywhere near asia, and I start swimming in it. All I want is a white girl with a nice rack though :(
/r/seduction21/09/15 09:50 AM
4

Any time they say that shit it just means she's not into you. They are more freaky than non-church girls.
/r/seduction20/09/15 09:56 AM
1

Lol.
/r/seduction20/09/15 01:52 AM
2

Been there. Some girls think you're a source of free drinks and will act accordingly. So when you've got a girl with her tits falling out over the bar, it's not because she likes you, it's because she thinks there's a chance of saving $8. All I can say is use the job as a general tool to be flirty, social, and have fun. Build connections. You can't actually pick up when you're working (99% of the time), so get experience out of it. You might get a few numbers if you're lucky - these are worth a …
/r/seduction20/09/15 01:44 AM
1

It was in Thailand, going to Ko Samui. She probably just wanted some combination of letting her hair down and maybe wanting to say she'd had a white guy.
/r/seduction17/09/15 10:07 AM
5

I'm 6'2 but I look a bit wierd, I think. I come from a family of redheads but my hair is kinda blonde and I'm so pale people sometimes ask me if I'm OK. I look a little bit like Prince William for what that's worth. That hasn't happened very much though, almost a once off. The second time was when I met this hot Taiwanese girl on a ferry (she was like, really really hot, any of her fb or instagram posts got about 300 likes). But whenever this happens its a crazy girl, and she was too, she had a …
/r/seduction16/09/15 09:45 PM
1

You are past the point of redemption here, the more you try (i.e. if you try at all) the more you push her away, so give up now and never think about or contact her again. Sorry, it's just the reality of the situation. We've all been there and learned from it.
/r/seduction16/09/15 02:04 PM
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I had sort of settled into a boring life, staring at women from afar, using porn too much, and going nowhere in my dead end job. Then while I was at work one day, this really hot girl came through my register. I remember her giving me 'the eye' but back then I thought nothing of it, no girl could like me, right? When I finished work I had a facebook message from her along the lines of 'I see you there all the time, can I add you?'. Long story short, she was crazy+hot, a combination that destroye…
/r/seduction16/09/15 02:02 PM
1

Ask her out for a drink or whatever. Tone it back a LITTLE bit, but now that she knows you're definitely keen, if she meets up that's the greenest light you've ever seen. Keep things sexual during the date and you're in.
/r/seduction16/09/15 01:56 PM
1

Australia, but I think its the same everywhere.
/r/seduction15/09/15 09:16 PM
2

Funny thing is I did that once on a night out and it worked all too well. Some frat bro dropped his cap, and I picked it up, put it on my head (backwards) and decided to act like a complete asshole that night. Sadly, girls loved it, and I picked up.
/r/seduction15/09/15 01:52 PM
1

Notice how that time you got laid was when you'd 'given up' (stopped caring so much about it)? You didn't mention your hobbies at all, so I'm going to go out on a limb and say you need some of those. Try things you haven't done before until some stick. And do them because you want to do them / they actually improve or benefit you. My current ones are yoga, and crossfit. Yoga keeps my anxiety at bay, helps me sleep better, and it helps you think in different ways by hearing different perspectives…
/r/seduction15/09/15 01:39 PM
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Yep. The secret is to actually forget about losing it, then you'll be concentrating on your life rather than kino and approach spreadsheets and sending yourself into a neurotic panic attack.
/r/seduction15/09/15 01:29 PM
1

I'm probably just summarising what others have said, but here goes. First of all, internet women have internet opinions. These are a subset of a subset of some generally odd individuals. Out of the next 100 hot girls you see, how many do you think are regular posters on reddit, let alone a sub like that? It's probably about 1 of them at best, normal people do normal things, not post in highly specific subs on a cat forum. Still, they have every right to be creeped out by the ways some guys touch…
/r/seduction15/09/15 01:25 PM
1

You'll have to just learn from this mistake I'm afraid. With girls once you fuck it up like this it's 10x harder to recover. Ignore her for a few weeks, you gain nothing from responding in this time even though it's so tempting, I know. Next time you have a girl for netflix and chill, don't feel guilty or wrong because they know exactly what's going on. Making the move is pretty hard but you can make sure you look her in the eyes when there are funny moments, or make sure it's cold so she can cu…
/r/seduction15/09/15 01:11 PM
15

Yeah well. OK Cupid is a completely different demographic filled with lesbian vegan hipsters who don't need no man, at least in my area.
/r/seduction15/09/15 12:54 PM
1

That is in fact what you should do. You find out for sure by acting, I.e. talking, flirting, dating, kino, and putting your dick in. At each point you will get feedback which you can act on.
/r/seduction15/09/15 12:52 PM
2

You are a giant walking wallet to them. The first one is playing the long game.
/r/seduction29/08/15 06:51 AM
1

Depends on the situation, I would do it because hey, it's 1 drink, and you'll quickly find out more about her character / level of interest if she doesn't buy the next one when it's her turn.
/r/seduction29/08/15 05:43 AM
2

Your best bet is to just be normal, chilled, and cool. The more he freaks out and melts down over her talking to a guy, the worse he makes himself look. You know it's cringeworthy (I hope), so just let him destroy himself, you don't have to do a thing.
/r/seduction29/08/15 05:36 AM
1

As others have said, it's all about attention, and/or instagram. There are many girls who are either instagram farming bots, or simply swipe heaps of guys so they can get likes on their moments etc, then never talk to any of them. I have had plenty who will post moments all day, then the moment you talk, they'll unmatch. Shouldn't have swiped me in the first place if I'm that disgusting, you dumb .... There is this girl in my area who will pop up every time I make a new account. Every time she w…
/r/seduction28/08/15 11:12 PM
1

Sadly I'm not, I'm muscular but a bit pudgy at the moment.
/r/seduction27/08/15 09:27 PM
1

There was nothing punk involved, the club was the same as every other club in Melbourne but with 99% guys. I don't look like a punk, I'm just a blonde guy with no piercings or leather.
/r/seduction27/08/15 09:26 PM
2

Agreed, they know what's up, it's not like you're trying to trick them into it. You can just say 'want to head back to my place?' But if you think it has to be smooth, just say something like you have some spare beers at your place if you really think she's going to suddenly change her mind.
/r/seduction27/08/15 03:02 PM
1

Can confirm, hitting late 20's and would be out of place if I tried it now even though they're my target market :( https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/ee/7b/ae/ee7bae4fbce592ce47c037960c3a8c62.jpg
/r/seduction27/08/15 02:50 PM
0

One time it was a crazy but ridiculously hot girl who approached me when I worked at the grocery store checkout a few years ago then invited me over a few days later then pretty much stopped talking to me after that. After that it was a chubby but not too crazy tinder girl who ruined my psyche a little bit less than the previous one.
/r/seduction27/08/15 02:32 PM
1

I know it's tough. Here's a few tips. Get a friend to come with you. Give him 5x $20 / euro notes, whatever your currency is. Each approach you do, he gives you one back. If you are still going solo, start off asking for the time, then directions to a good coffee shop or restaurant. If they seem to be interested then you might be able to continue the conversation.
/r/seduction27/08/15 02:30 PM
2

I'd probably send one more like 'hey, it was nice chatting on the bus. I'm going to X event on the weekend, are you in?'. Where X event is something that's appropriate for you and her based on what you know about her. Drink, gallery, coffee, whatever.
/r/seduction15/08/15 02:08 PM
0

Food is a bit on the awkward side especially if you're sitting opposite. No chance to kino. Also cinema should be obvious, you sit in darkness not talking to each other. Need to do something FUN together. Then its kind of natural to start getting physical rather than awkward and forced.
/r/seduction08/08/15 02:48 AM
3

I've had the same (I'm 6ft1, blonde). In my case I think I have an extreme version of 'resting bitch face' - my default face is very stern and probably more like 'resting serial killer face'. So try to work it into a more neutral expression or smile if you can - it might need a bit of conscious effort. Also, get into activities where you naturally end up meeting people, and your personality can show through. I've noticed that people who kind of avoided me didn't do so any more after they were 'f…
/r/seduction08/08/15 02:39 AM
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While this seems useful, i think honestly anyone who gets many matches can't fail too badly. Lots of us here get about 1 match a week, and they're either 200kg or a bot. I think sticking to real life is necessary when you're ugly cos personality might actually give us a chance. My current list has about 20 girls, 1 is a ladyboy begging for someone to come over and cuddle, no sex. 10 are bots. The rest are attention whore Moment-posters who either just want attention or are there to repost screen…
/r/seduction08/08/15 02:28 AM
1

How old did you think she was before that? And yeah, one of the places near me is a shopping mall with lots of hot girls. Trouble is, it's a bit of a minefield. They might be 21, or they might be 15.
/r/seduction14/06/15 01:13 PM
2

Yeah, I did that once on POF and the account was somehow getting messages from every guy online before I'd even completed the last page of account creation.
/r/seduction14/06/15 01:11 PM
1

Something that you actually want to do so you aren't awkwardly there just to pick up. Salsa is a popular one, personally I prefer yoga as I feel like I benefit from it.
/r/seduction10/06/15 11:39 AM
1

Cuddling means fucking, FYI. Put on a movie, get comfy, then cuddle>makeout>fuck. You've got to make the moves first in nearly 100% of cases. I have a feeling this is her last attempt to check that you aren't gay before she gives up, to be honest.
/r/seduction10/06/15 11:37 AM
2

Maybe don't start off with clubs - you have a lot of competition who are often a lot better at it, and girls have their 'bitch shield' up. In a daytime setting there are plenty of places to meet girls where you can just go up and say 'hi' and comment on something. If you're in a shopping mall 'hey, thats lots of shopping bags, what have you been buying' or 'thats a great dress', something situational.
/r/seduction08/06/15 04:00 AM
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