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Don’t treat them like some sort of magical different species. Be respectful. Objectifying and putting someone by putting them on a pedestal is not respectful. Hold the door for people because it’s polite. Don’t hold the door for someone because they happen to have a vagina. Big different between being nice and being a “nice guy” trying to earn sex points. Can you guess which one is more attractive and pro tip: Women aren’t stupid.
/r/seduction02/04/20 01:13 PM
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Not worth it. Get your hand on your dick till this shit is over. Either you don’t give a shit and she’ll think you’re a creep. Or she doesn’t give a shit and who knows what other flags she’s flying.
/r/seduction29/03/20 10:42 PM
2

Holy shit. This guy is back?
/r/seduction22/03/20 02:27 AM
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Where else can I counter argument TRP and Incels without getting immediately banned by their snowflake asses?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 08:19 PM
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How many days away is X? “Maybe, what’s in it for me?” Of course depends on the context and how close you guys are.
/r/seduction26/01/20 11:32 PM
0

Models is pretty much all you need.
/r/seduction23/01/20 09:19 PM
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Begin a sentence with how or why in relation to the last thing they said . Yes or no questions are the death of a conversation unless you can follow up with an open ended question.
/r/seduction23/01/20 09:18 PM
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The ultimate response to any questing from guys in how to deal with other guys is....: Ya ready? Up your confidence and game. How exactly is he cockblocking you from asking these girls out? Are you waiting for a perfect moment when the star align?
/r/seduction10/01/20 01:13 AM
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I do stand by it regardless of your straw.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 12:38 AM
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It’s not a random line.. It’s the foundation for an entire chapter which is in turn constantly referenced throughout. The entire book is him trying to dress up pseudo science with mythology as the evidence. He’s taking foo and saying it’s real because he’s choosing to misinterpret mythology out of context. And, it’s serotonin he talks about not dopamine. Serotonin actually has the opposite effect on lobsters as it does on humans. Throwing in solid, common sense platitudes here and there doesn’t …
/r/seduction03/01/20 05:51 PM
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Well, the dude called his book the 12 RULES for Life implying his view is not subjective and the wording throughout his book as well as at his lectures he implies that his ideas are indeed fact when they are objectively false. His new world view isn’t new. It’s a rehash of the same nostalgia and theologically fueled crap that lead to men being woefully disappointed in the 70s and 80s when being a man’s man didn’t get them everything they wanted. Peterson is dressed up first wave PUA minus the se…
/r/seduction03/01/20 05:06 PM
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Don’t think it’s a scam. Your fault for dating a woman before you sleep with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 12:49 AM
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Your whataboutism is silly but I agree with your later part. I exclusively date feminists and yeah.. we go fucking Dutch. The OP is the one throwing money at dates and expecting something out of it. He’s blaming women because HE is over investing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 12:45 AM
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Ding* You mean... GASP. Treat them like an equal human?
/r/seduction03/01/20 12:41 AM
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When I want to take life advice from a lobster fetishist I’ll read Peterson. Hahaha. I can rip his arguments apart his drunk and on acid AND still make more sense than his AFC falating material. His grift is strong though. He ground a desperate demographic that’s insecure as shit about their position in life and gave them an easily digestible, ego boosting set of words that have no substance to sell books.
/r/seduction03/01/20 12:38 AM
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Yup. It’s not like 100% or anything but in my experience a solid 50% at least. They could even be in a shitty/loveless LTR because they are afraid of the stigma that most of society has in thinking they SHOULD be in a relationship. Also a good chunk that just want to focus on themselves and are REALLy tired of being approached by assholes obviously just wanting a trophy or notch on the bed post.
/r/seduction03/01/20 12:33 AM
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Your over investment reads to her that you are more likely to freak out and be irrational in the face of rejection. That’s why she likely ghosted you. Over investment is a major turn off to women. They dont want to feel like a slot machine.... or be treated like one. That’s on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 12:20 AM
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Not an answer to my questions. Have you ever been guilt tripped because someone threw a lot of money at a date and wanted a second? If you were looking for a sympathetic circle jerk you came on the wrong sub. (Drum snare)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 12:08 AM
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No, but the emotional labor involved with handling an insecure guy that think he’s entitled to praise and compliments sure as shit is. You ever been guilt tripped because someone threw a lot of money at a date and wanted a second?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 11:16 PM
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😂😂😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️😂😂😂😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣😅😅🤣😂🤣😭😭😭🤣😂 ... 😓🤣😊 I’m going to need you to define effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 11:01 PM
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Then find one that doesn’t put the effort it and return the effort in kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 10:07 PM
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Well, if he had a personality he could have gotten to do the really fun/freaky shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 10:05 PM
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Most of the men that think they are super intelligent or are highly accomplished academically are dumb as a brick. Most women don’t want a man baby that is more concerned with a spreadsheet than brushing his teeth and washing his socks... That’s going to give anybody pause. But, a brilliant man that can take care of himself and be emotionally available for friends and family? Good chance he could have a leaning tower of parties at the foot of his bed with even below average looks.... oh wait, he…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 10:01 PM
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Shit, you figured it out!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 09:46 PM
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People can even smell and be sexually repulsed by their siblings without realizing it. it doesn’t require any deep understanding. How else do wild animals avoid fucking their siblings for the most part? A colony of animals that don’t have sex with their siblings are going to be more successful than a colony of that do. It’s not rocket science. Never mind the ethical issues. I don’t care how old two adults are. If a parent is trying to bang a child... or older sibling a younger sibling there is g…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 09:35 PM
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Do you agree or disagree with this statement. “Women take too long to get ready to go out.” They put the effort in why shouldn’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 09:24 PM
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Yes, the same guys that complain about women taking forever to get ready are complaining about the effort men need to go through for basic decorum and grooming. WHY IS IT SO ONE SIDED WYMENS HAVE IT SO EASY.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 09:20 PM
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Maybe she let Chad hit it cause he wasn’t a shallow, needy, insecure RP?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 09:19 PM
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Or he could get off his ass and phone and ya know.. talk to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 09:16 PM
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“How many minutes after she is gone will I regret not talking to her? What’s the worst that can happen? Rejection... lol. What’s the best that can happen?”
/r/seduction13/12/19 09:30 PM
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.<. The amount of opportunities you’ve passed by is a bit insane. She rejects your ass because you are a giant waffle. Stop waffling around and skip the “date.” Make a move. Either you’ve waited too long rehearsing your role as a waffle in the school play and you are now wellllll within friendzone. ...Or you are the luckiest POS in the world and this girl really likes you but she won’t wait forever.
/r/seduction13/12/19 01:18 AM
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Don’t mistake a woman simply being nice for her being interested in sleeping with you. On the flip side if you wait to long you’ll just be another work friend. If you ask her out and she rejects you or you guys have a shitty date. You can apologize and move on. That won’t get your fired unless your company has a specific policy in place. But, my guess is if you think a relationship at work would be “sick” then you are not ready for one. Dating at work with maturity and your ethics in tact can be…
/r/seduction04/12/19 08:36 PM
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Wait. So ... how long have you been together? Are you dating women just for sex? Stop dating. As a policy I generally wont be “dating” or have a more emotionally intimate relationship unless we’ve been having pretty regular sex and are both having a LOT of fun.
/r/seduction04/12/19 08:28 PM
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That’s not why women “shit test” ;). That’s what we men tell ourselves so we can keep pretending there is some prize to win for a good performance, because we like to engage in weird insecure forms of social combat. How can you be carefree and be genuinely confident when you’ve got all this built up anxiety in the back of your skull around how to talk to just another human. How do you talk to your male friends? Start with that when talking to a woman. BE SINCERE. The only difference between talk…
/r/seduction04/12/19 12:15 AM
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What have you done for your inner game? Approaches don’t work without breaking down what went right and what went wrong. This very much requires being in the moment and observant rather than just trying for numbers. 1 approach in a night that you are fully aware of will get your more information than 20 that just blend together with little meditation. What have you done to understand the societal reasons why women actually do things that for example we call “shit testing.” Do you understand them…
/r/seduction30/11/19 06:42 AM
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“We want someone that is timid and afraid to talk to people.” Said no job ever. “We want people that have no passion or desire to become better.” Said no decent job ever.
/r/seduction17/11/19 01:38 AM
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Nothing gets my partners going more than discussing the optimistic outlook for humanity as a whole thanks to AI! Just cause the worst of society is shown through the anonymity of the internet doesn’t mean real people aren’t working to save lives and prevent strife as you read this :D. Heck, I bet some of these redpillers are actually decent humans in real life that help others. Hiding behind mask of hatred and ignorance may give them a weird catharsis.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 09:44 PM
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You confuse passion with anger. The reason it happened is I was showing a vast amount of passion for a difficult topic.. and vocalizing it rather than hiding my nose in a book or starting at my feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 09:39 PM
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Even shitty and ugly artists have trouble balancing an over abundance of sexy, young art students :P.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 09:30 PM
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I’ve literally been jumped on and had my clothes torn off by one because I was going on a rant about machine learning and procedural generation. Intelligence is one of the biggest turn ons for women. And smarties(the candy). The smell has been proven to be more effective than most colognes... clean laundry smell too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 11:10 PM
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Because you father pays me to suck my cock? Quite frankly he really should save his money. I mean, I love my balls being drained but he really needs to start planning for retirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 06:42 AM
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Damn, you really want my nudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 11:19 PM
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Nope, my argument is that you don’t have to become a shitbag to get a date. Misogynists getting laid doesn’t refute that statement. It also doesn’t refute the fact that I can and do have far more happy and stable relationships pound for pound against a misogynist. Promise all you want. I had to stop writing last night because my partners were feeling frisky. And now I’ve got to go tie up a client. You can be a dominate in the bedroom all you want. Rules change in there. But in general society yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 10:01 PM
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Yeeeeah, And humans never experience dysmorphia when looking in the mirror. Ever complain about a woman taking too long to get ready? Thank societal pressures to be evaluated based on physical appearance first for women. Yet when they don’t prescribe then you automatically call them man hating feminists.... Be honest. You think you can look at someone and just know. Incels look in the mirror and are facing reality in one part of their brain that they are little assholes.. then in the other part …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 07:35 PM
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You’re literally asking a dude to post a picture on the internet so you can judge how he looks.... cool, but be honest with your own sexuality. Showing you my man boobs wont matter one bit. You are going to bias yourself into supporting whatever conclusion you originally held. I also gain nothing from throwing my picture up on reddit sooooo. Lol. Learn to negotiate better bub.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 07:23 PM
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In my experience I’ve met far more misogynistic men than this theoretical cis feminist that hates men. Yes, I’ve encountered my fair share of 3rd wave feminists but I think most men that don’t understand what feminism actually is confuse frustration and anger with hatred. I get it.. It’s fun to think someone is out to get you. There are plenty of terrorists and white supremacist that you don’t need to stack women on to your list of potential assailants.
/r/seduction11/11/19 04:30 AM
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You may need to spit out that pill buddy. I’m 35 and my earlier this year my primary partner was a 20 yr old model. And no, I’m not rich. You’ve been fed a lie by a bunch of insecure and needy men that want others to share in their frustration so they don’t have to confront the fact that they aren’t superior to women in any way. They would rather keep pretending they are entitled to relationships if they just follow a “system.” The very concept of redpilling is an expression of neediness. needin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 04:07 AM
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Only incels fetishize “Chad.” Seriously. Women don’t think have as much of the chad as incels and virgin redpillers think of them. AMOG. Alpha male of group. Although I don’t prescribe to alpha and beta ridiculousness it’s a good short hand for dominating the frame and being more attractive overall through your actions and strength of character... oh and not being an asshole helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 03:36 AM
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Did I say I was a chad? No. You don’t need to be a fucking Adonis to be more attractive than an idiot with a shit personality and weak social skills. Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit is it? Hell, if I was a selfish man I would be encouraging men to take the redpill. Less competition that way... unfortunately I don’t particularly give a shit about competition. But, I do love showing up a guy that cares waaaay too much about his physical merits and money which he thinks makes him into …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 02:30 AM
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Thank you! Poly isn’t swinging but good enough! Hope you find what you are looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 01:07 AM
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It’s that I don’t support the institution of marriage. I’m a realist. Most marriages don’t last. People change over time and so do emotions. It has nothing to do with refusing to marry because of women. Am I religous? Nope... no need to get married then. If two people need a piece of paper or legal document to trust each other then maybe they shouldn’t be together. Also, why should I sideline my other partners? Why should I try to claim one all for myself over their own other partners? Shit.. it…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 09:58 PM
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I’m glad you recognize your point isn’t relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 09:03 PM
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So my attitude will protect me from this horrible contract(as you’ve described) that is marriage. Sounds like you just want a shoulder to cry on and some bros to pat you on the back. Date for shallow and self serving reasons and you’ll get shallow and self serving dates... that has nothing to do with women and everything to do with you own failures in selecting a partner..... And likewise over investing in someone that doesn’t share your ideals. Sounds like you’re the one that needs a bit more e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 09:02 PM
1

Then please explain how you define window shopping and I’ll be sure to make an equally absurd analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 07:48 PM
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Simply making a declaration isn’t taking a position... so. No debate yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 07:46 PM
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Why the hell would I ever do that? Marriage is just about the dumbest thing a person can do. Making a dumb decision is an experience, sure. I don’t need a piece of paper to tell me I love my live in partner and that they feel the same about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 07:44 PM
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Cool, so you don’t look at porn when you are in a relationship? You don’t check out another woman’s ass when she is wearing a tight skirt? You don’t role play with your partner? Sounds fuckin’g boring and insecure as shit. Can’t trust yourself to keep it in your pants?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 06:49 PM
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There is also a thing called self victimization. Feels good doesn’t it? Makes life real simple? Admit it, part of you feels special for thinking you’re an underdog.... in a sense you are but it’s all on your side. Good job keeping yourself down!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 06:46 PM
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Yes, cause I’m going to go through the effort to film my self playing the game... to appease a random person on reddit because I’m desperate for validation :P. Because that’s not needy AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 06:40 PM
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Lol. What’s your definition of enough experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 06:37 PM
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Lol. Read the flair bub. I was raised by a strong feminist woman and man. I AMOG chad for fun, roll with the punches and embraces the expanding roles of women in society with glee. Believe it or not you can adapt to changing societal standards while maintaining your individuality and what you desire to be as a man. And, you don’t have to try to knock down an entire gender.... or put that same gender on a pedestal to do it. Feminism isn’t about giving more than you have it’s about basic respect a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 05:55 AM
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This. Nothing wrong with window shopping. I think this fear or rampant hypergamy is just about the absolute expression of a red pill man’s inherent insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 03:40 AM
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Nope. You are asserting hypergamy and the desire for polygamy is a constant and undebatable . You are then asking for the awareness of these “facts.” Thusly you should just ask TRP directly. If these things aren’t up for debate then why ask them in r/purplepilldebate ? “How do same sex friend and family view the idea of polygamy and hypergamy? How do you think these views negatively or positively effect their lives?” Otherwise you are assuming there is something valid enough to be aware of in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 03:33 AM
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Perhaps your question could be rephrased as currently you are simply asking a question of people that already agree with redpill ideology and aren’t leaving anything open for debate. Wrong question or wrong sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 02:05 AM
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You can’t control who she talks to. She is still a sentient and self driven human being. All you can do is take the initiative.
/r/seduction09/11/19 10:28 PM
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Oooooh boy. Your going to have to make a move. Why are you afraid of giving her attention? Too often nice guys will use the “I’m cool so I don’t give a fuck.” As an excuse to procrastinate in taking action. It’s not about being cool it’s about being confident. The other guy is showing you up because he is confident. If she’s given you real IOI’s. Sitting next to you doesn’t count. Then confidently ask her out next time you see her. If ya get rejected then so what. She wasn’t interested and now y…
/r/seduction09/11/19 05:43 PM
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Lol. You’ve never met my father... or grandfather.... or pretty much any baby boomer. There was a massive marketing shift in the 80s to pretty much make video games a male only activity. before that some of the top game designers were actually women. In the 90s i would agree with you but that would be a symptom of selective marketing and not some sort of natural gendered predisposition to gaming. Given the context of us being in Purple Pill Debate there isn’t a lot of reason beyond “us vs them” …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 02:43 AM
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I don’t think gender has anything to do with this unless your are just trying to sneak in a “lol women don’t understand games.” Which us funny because I know far more women than men that would stand by your side and defend the activity required to play games right next to you otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 09:55 PM
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Correct. however, if something requires your input(cognitive or physical) to progress is becomes active. Reading is active. if you stop reading the book doesn’t progress. TV and film will keep going regardless of your interaction with it.... passive. Games don’t play themselves. Nobody would call chess passive. thinking about and exploring other scenarios around the show you just watched... active. And yes you can actively engage with TV and Film. Level of physical activity doesn’t make somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 09:53 PM
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There is so much right in this photo.
/r/seduction06/11/19 07:05 PM
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Men want power fantasy overall.. he who dies with the most toys wins frontier philosophy. Women overall are better socialized than men. Blame society if you want for this one. When you are still human and want to succeed in general but options have been closed off in terms of MANY forms of competition or wealth gain then what are you left with?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 07:05 PM
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EVERY woman I know that plays the sims actually spends more time throwing in the cheat codes, dressing them up and designing houses. Very little time actually spent “playing” the game. As for reading? Men look at porn, women tend more towards reading it and fantasize in a very different way than men. It’s a far more cerebral experience from what I’ve been told. TRP tells you shit obviously. Men don’t constantly seek out their own personal power fantasy or expressions of dominance no matter how c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 07:00 PM
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How did you spend thousands going out to bars? You shouldn’t be drinking or buying others drinks when trying to game at bars. What books have you read? Don’t need to list all of them just the major ones.
/r/seduction06/11/19 06:53 PM
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If you kept your standard rock bottom you wouldn’t need to learn anything either. Everyone still wants to be able to identify and maintain a GOOD sexual or romantic relationship. The reality is a lot of men are really fucking bad at both. It takes a LOT of work to get good at separating the wheat from the chaff. .. and then you still need to do something with that wheat. Superior socialization and the overall desperation of the opposite sex doesn’t lead to easier dating.. just different. FYI I’m…
/r/seduction27/10/19 07:34 PM
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Pop a squat kiddo. You have a crush. This can be an exciting time in a man’s life but unfortunately for you this means two things which aren’t going to help you in the long run. Having a crush in inherently means you are ignoring the other person’s flaws. that deep sense of desire is far more shallow than you realize... it’s can also be crippling to having any sort of healthy relationship should something come up. You are inducing a state of neediness in yourself. This is wholly unattractive I’v…
/r/seduction27/10/19 07:25 PM
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Tinder is purely physical. After some rather embarrassing encounters with bots I’ve given up on it entirely. It’s an alternate dimension with zero indication on how successful you can be with someone in person. It’s also a horrible IOI to match with someone you know on Tinder. If you do it can work against you. Yes, the ice has been broken but you will be coming from a place of weakness and insecurity by showing you needed an app to approach.
/r/seduction23/10/19 07:47 PM
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“Want to come over and make mistakes?”
/r/seduction23/10/19 07:40 PM
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This. But don’t go for coffee. That is what friends do. Go right for the date and don’t beat around the bush.
/r/seduction23/10/19 07:30 PM
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Some of the most powerful men you can think of visit dominatrixes on the regular. Actual submission is more than letting someone dominate you. It has far more to do with not having to make decisions and being taken care of by someone that has the means to do so ... if only for a little before heading back into a world where people constantly need you to take charge. I fail to see how this is is valid for Purple pill debate. I would suggest heading over to BDSMadvice to have a thorough discussion…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 03:49 AM
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It’s never to early to ask but it can be to late after a certain point.. keep that in mind. Dating coworkers is only really shitty because in the case of a likely breakup it can make the environment rather awkward. Guys afraid of an HR nightmare just need to learn that if you get rejected you stop.
/r/seduction13/09/19 07:41 PM
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Go out for a coffee. Ask her if she wants to take a break and come along. If she is interested she will make the time.
/r/seduction13/09/19 07:39 PM
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Wow. Harmonic dissonance much? You got off topic when you started talking about black pill BS cuckoldry. Keep up man! Aren’t you guys supposed to be high IQ? Your crack is showing.
/r/seduction13/09/19 07:36 PM
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So, you have two trans women in your DNA? You admit gender identification and sexuality isn’t a choice?
/r/seduction13/09/19 04:24 PM
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Better that and better to be here than r/braincels .
/r/seduction12/09/19 08:02 PM
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Sounds like he already did and spit it back out. I love how incels grab onto imagery created by two Trans-Women.
/r/seduction12/09/19 07:59 PM
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Fuck off incel.
/r/seduction12/09/19 07:54 PM
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That could work but it’s a short term fix for a rather deep seeded problem. If your house isn’t in order then no amount of the poon is going to make you a happy person.
/r/seduction12/09/19 07:53 PM
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Step 1) Are you getting treatment for your depression? That will likely help with your libido and other things. Get that worked out first. It could be chemical or psychological. if you are unable to get professional help for that then move on to step 2. Step 2) Read Models. Read it again if you already have and really absorb the words. Asking for help is the first step to recovery. Why are you so worried about your sex drive? Don’t beat yourself up over what other people tell you what your prior…
/r/seduction12/09/19 07:50 PM
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Then ask her out and stop texting so much. What I said still stands.
/r/seduction11/09/19 09:37 PM
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Wanting you to ask her to hang out so she can have an excuse to cut the date short. Or she was trying to make you jealous. Either way she is...was interested in you more than her date.
/r/seduction11/09/19 09:36 PM
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So? Be a cheeky little money. “You already know my name.” “I got in a fight with a bear and got a nasty hit to the head. So, how about it?” Stop worrying about if you are going to come off silly. Just don’t be needy and be confident in your actions.
/r/seduction11/09/19 09:35 PM
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“Hi” is the best pickup line ever conceived. It has been developed over thousands of years and proven to work in a study that has had sample size of around 70 billion.
/r/seduction11/09/19 09:24 PM
0

Have you ever just tried “Hi, what’s your name?” Seriously. Fuck the lines.
/r/seduction11/09/19 08:55 PM
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STOP TEXTING SO MUCH!!!!!!!!! If you stop and she messages you back then make plans to hang out. Otherwise you need to fall back and stop fucking texting unless you are looking for a friend.
/r/seduction11/09/19 08:48 PM
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I’ll endorse this message.
/r/seduction11/09/19 08:36 PM
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Yeah.. wasn’t a test. She was looking for an out without sounding disrespectful so you wouldn’t think less of her. “Cool, want more interesting company?” As men we like to overthink “shit tests.” To us they seem like tests. To women they are perfectly valid ways of learning about a potential partner... and they are when you thinking of how we like to bend over backwards to put out best foot forward and hide our faults. Women have just figured out a way to slice through bullshit that men haven’t …
/r/seduction11/09/19 08:04 PM
3

Holt shit there is a lot to unpack here but I think it can easily be summed up as you over investing and trying to buy her. This turned her off and she nope’d you the fuck out of her life. Nice... Guy.
/r/seduction08/09/19 04:36 PM
1

Yeah, I wouldn’t mess with that toxic shit. When guys get paranoid about pregnancy scares and crap like that it’s going to come out of a relationship like that. Better convert to a wing woman and keep your dick out of the company ink.
/r/seduction07/09/19 08:00 PM
3

You don’t sound like a very good friend. Don’t run game on people you don’t respect and you obviously don’t respect this person.
/r/seduction07/09/19 07:56 PM
1

Turn around and walk backwards to face her. If it doesn’t work just turn around again with your back to her.
/r/seduction30/08/19 07:52 PM
1

No. Women aren’t allowed to change their minds? If anything wouldn’t that make her less of a whore to return to her ex without fucking around after the breakup? Either way she isn’t a whore.
/r/seduction30/08/19 07:50 PM
2

It’s a book about negotiation... not sure why you would think it would be applicable to love life. A marriage maybe but not dating. But, I applaud you looking outside the traditional gurus for information. If you really want to take a trip down the rabbit hole and learn where people like Tony Robbins get all of their material then read Psycho Cybernetics. Even much of the PUA gurus get their style and business model from Tony so why not check out the root of the tree?
/r/seduction30/08/19 07:47 PM
3

Normal or not, the double standard is extremely unhealthy for society as a whole. You’ve bought into it without question because it’s morally convenient, yet you yourself talk as if you are going to rack up a large number count on your quest. It’s a very round about way of putting a certain type of woman on a pedestal without even knowing them. This is very insecure and “beta” behavior on your part. We do not put women above or below us. They are equal humans and should be held to the same stand…
/r/seduction30/08/19 07:47 AM
1

Not for me. My partners and I both embrace it and even escalate to multiple romantic partners.
/r/seduction29/08/19 10:10 PM
2

Jumping into this thread ready to rattle sabers but am pleasantly surprised with the amount of people calling OP out on slut-shaming. Dudes literally on a sub designed to help people become sluts themselves and decrying the opposite sex for enjoying their own bodies with others. Fuck, I wouldn’t date a women with less than 5 body count. I don’t have time to train them how to communicate their needs. To the OP: Sleep with a girl if you like her. If you are getting caught up on her sexual history …
/r/seduction29/08/19 10:03 PM
5

Don’t bother. Is your pool so shallow that you have to tap into old high school crushes?
/r/seduction25/08/19 05:36 PM
6

Don’t show interest so quick. Keep a mind set of “ you seem interesting but I’m reserving judgment.” Don’t be so eager to make a plan, make yourself scarce, and be busy. For whatever reason you are likely coming off as needy and over investing from their perspective. Stand back and look at the situation from a female perspective and be objective as possible. “Why should I hang out with this guy that really want’s to see me when this really cool and confident guy has so much going on that I need …
/r/seduction22/08/19 03:34 AM
5

Nothing is fundamentally wrong with you for wanting to take it slow but it does hurt your long term goals or chances of sexual escalation. Do you take it slow because you are uncomfortable or because you genuinely want to get to know them better? Once of those is totally fine and the other is relationship suicide.
/r/seduction06/08/19 04:04 PM
2

Ask her out for a date, be direct and up front. Don’t try to sneak in or escalate when you’re watching a movie amicably. Whatever you do just don’t wait too long. Be honest and if she rejects you be as cool about it as fucking possible. If you start being a poopy pants about it it’s going to make traveling pretty fucking shitty for both of you when it doesn’t need to be.
/r/seduction06/08/19 04:02 PM
1

Yeah, life is too short to wait around for maybe.
/r/seduction27/07/19 04:38 PM
2

Practice it in the mirror. Telling a guy you are jealous is a big enough IOI for even the most shy or oblivious guy to know it’s okay to make a move. Hell, men with enough ego would dig it even if you said it in an extremely serious/creepy way.
/r/seduction26/07/19 02:57 AM
1

If you have fun when you are together then what’s the issue?
/r/seduction25/07/19 12:17 AM
1

Do it! It’s not that hard if you’ve got enough shit to throw through.
/r/seduction24/07/19 11:03 PM
4

Empathy is the “technique” that works the best. Actually understanding women and why things like push and pull have positive effects on human interactions. It’s not just limited to PUA. There is no #1 technique. That is a marketing spin people selling youtube channels or books use to try to get people to shell out more cash. Ever heard this or similar before? “Now, if you get this next (e-book,video,seminar) I’ll teach you the #1 phrase I use to get any woman into bed!”
/r/seduction24/07/19 06:03 PM
9

Being confident and not being needy. Being direct without being a twat. Throwing out the canned material (which can help you get started) and learning how to make your intentions known and hold a conversation. All the techniques in the world wont help you if you don’t approach/engage with confidence and zero air of desperation.
/r/seduction24/07/19 05:57 PM
1

If she isn’t interested she won’t come around and you perusing her isn’t likely to create more interest. You’ve already made the move and you’ve answered your own question. Read Models by Mark Manson and really grasp the information. Then you should have a better idea of what it means to be non-needy and have a stronger foundation going forward.
/r/seduction24/07/19 05:54 PM
2

Do not interact with this guy. He actively get’s off on people commenting about him. He will spam posts on many subs until he gets a reddit ban then he will make a new account and do it again.
/r/seduction24/07/19 05:04 PM
1

Please delete your comment. Do not interact with this guy. He actively get’s off on people commenting about him. He will spam posts on many subs until he gets a reddit ban then he will make a new account and do it again.
/r/seduction24/07/19 05:01 PM
1

We only chase when we are coming from a place of neediness. The irony of the Zen of PUA is that once achieved you no longer “practice” PUA or “chase” women.
/r/seduction24/07/19 04:59 PM
1

Start approaching more and turn that “week of waiting.” Into... not waiting. As in you wont care which will make you far more attractive than the guy that stares at facebook for a week.
/r/seduction24/07/19 04:43 PM
1

Or doing something right ;). I can appreciate it but there is such a thing about overthinking or becoming a slave to the data. That being said you could punch that shit through machine learning and get predictive date finding lol.
/r/seduction24/07/19 04:42 PM
1

Read Models.
/r/seduction24/07/19 04:40 PM
1

WRONG SUB.
/r/seduction24/07/19 04:39 PM
1

And if we met at a bar I would still pull the gold digger(for free) you spent $200 on.
/r/seduction24/07/19 04:39 PM
3

Have you read Models? How old are you? Do you live in an urban or rural area? Baseline advice is you over invested far too early and you still are. Women build emotional attraction for men at a slower rate than men do.... this is a matter of necessity. Dial it back, stop texting, and create space between you two. Attraction builds in space. If if you think “she’s the one” or a one night stand the best thing you can do is back off. It may take weeks or it may be never but you best chance of getti…
/r/seduction24/07/19 04:37 PM
1

I second this. They don’t play games or spend half the night testing you. Also. Older women have sooooo much more experience.
/r/seduction24/07/19 04:26 PM
1

Check the package and see if it had spermicide. I think you are still fine. VERY few women actually know if they are ovulating. Still you may do better to ask this question over in r/sexadvice or something similar .
/r/seduction23/07/19 08:23 PM
1

Don’t need a video for that. Wingwomen are superior to wingmen, Women seeing you with another women eliminates a vast majority of tests. Women make great friends when when you aren’t trying to bang them and they aren’t trying to bang you. Being honest from the get go does leave open a very strong window for physical escalation.
/r/seduction23/07/19 06:55 PM
1

You got insecure and fell into try hard mode. Don’t try to be cute unless you know what you are doing otherwise you are going to come off as creepy. You can be cocky and funny till the cows come home but don’t turn what is a solid way of getting a date into a desperate attempt to get her to come over. Creepyness happens when your action and mannerisms betray your emotional state or intentions.
/r/seduction23/07/19 06:51 PM
1

Extremely low chance. Most condoms also have spermicide which should deal with those swimmers in precum . If you area really worried you should git the bill for some plan b. It’s a bit pricey but worth he piece of mind. Your lady will appreciate it too.
/r/seduction23/07/19 06:46 PM
1

Don’t worry about sealing the deal then. Just focusing on having a great time with her. Still keep up some sexual tension. Look at her lips, keep your body language open, don’t be afraid to touch her. If you are thinking wether or not you should kiss her your probably should give it a try. The amount of women that lose attraction for a guy that is genuinely interested in them is because he fails to escalate... is mind boggling.
/r/seduction23/07/19 06:36 PM
3

Yes a guy can. So can women. People just like to fuck and sometimes you just want a fuck with no string attached so you can get on with your day and not have to worry about getting 100 texts while at work. It’s also fine to not be able to have sex with no string attached and seek a deeper connection before engaging in sex. Sexuality is fluid and you need to go for the demographic you are attracted too. Don’t go for a party girl that want’s a ONS when you are looking for a long term relationships…
/r/seduction23/07/19 06:30 PM
0

You ever been with a dom ;)?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 04:25 PM
1

If two Nice Guys are competing and one has more cash than the other then yes... money talks. That’s not a feature of the money that’s because it’s all a Nice Guy has to offer ;). I’ve thrown a half trained natural PUA against a millionaire that owns one of the swankiest restaurants in town. The millionaire was the one that went home alone. Not a bad looking guy either, just completely inept when needing to compete on a personal level. Bought everyone drinks tho :/.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 03:58 PM
1

Yeah, I would have zero problems with the idea of legal marriage if it let poly people not have to make a choice. I’ll be ready for the fight when the time comes but Americans are barely okay with letting two people make a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 03:52 PM
4

We don’t like legal marriage for the most part. It’s only purpose right now is BS like tax breaks and visitation. If two people really want to be with each-other for a long time they don’t need a legal contract to keep them together. Hell i have friends that are married that keep all of their finances separate. It’s just easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 05:43 PM
1

A pretty minor part.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 05:40 PM
5

Naaa, you are wrong. It’s all about the wrist size and gym maxing with those dolla dolla bills. \s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/19 11:17 PM
14

Move on. You guys broke up the “nice guy” way. If you are sitting on the sidelines and worrying about how she will judge you if you play the field then you are being a nice guy and being needy AF. If you want to get back together with her the number 1 thing you can do is go on a few dates.
/r/seduction19/07/19 03:30 PM
2

Fast is relative. It does say to be direct with your intentions. Sitting around on your hands and slow playing the friend game is being indirect, insecure and dishonest.
/r/seduction19/07/19 03:44 AM
1

Read Models. 🤔
/r/seduction18/07/19 09:03 PM
9

Direct. Read Models.
/r/seduction18/07/19 08:46 PM
1

“Ill message you later.”
/r/seduction18/07/19 08:34 PM
6

I approve of this message.
/r/seduction16/07/19 08:54 PM
2

I’ve read this multiple times as well but don’t remember where. I would suggest google. Barring that from my discussions with women this also holds up has true event though it’s more anecdotal. And there is the fact that I can pretty handily get the date if I’m facing direct competition from a millionaire... and get free drinks to boot when i tell him exactly what I’m about to do and he still can’t get the upper hand.
/r/seduction16/07/19 08:22 PM
1

Wrong sub. I see you’ve posted this a lot elsewhere as well. If you want to get better with seduction and getting a date you should rephrase your question. PS: Read Models
/r/seduction14/07/19 08:08 PM
3

Do you want to be her girlfriend? No? Then stop being to available for this kind of emotional support. I’m not saying don’t hear her out a little but always be the one to cut the interaction short, don’t try to “fix” her emotionally and don’t patiently wait for her to feel better. She’s feeling some pretty negative emotions and you are going to be associated as a band aid in the best case scenario or be directly linked with those negative feelings in a relationship context regardless. Why do you…
/r/seduction14/07/19 08:04 PM
1

If you are very good friends but are afraid you won’t hang out outside of work then how good of friends can you actually be? If you are actually interested then keep it light and keep hanging out on occasion. Don’t go out of your way to help her or be a Nice Guy/Girlfriend to her. Ask her out if she ever becomes single but sticking around just waiting for the to happen shows you as being needy as fuck unless you are seeing other people yourself in the meantime. If you are crushing on her so bad …
/r/seduction14/07/19 07:28 PM
3

The first thing she said was “he took the time to know me.” Debate over. Move along.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 09:07 PM
1

A shared perspective of what it means to go through the world with a disability on that level. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 06:38 PM
6

Do not engage this guy. He gets off on people talking about his looks and body. Report him or talk amongst yourselves. Do not respond to him directly.
/r/seduction11/07/19 06:02 PM
-2

Haha that’s Awesome. Wouldn’t be suprised if she was using a script. She was pretty basic.
/r/seduction11/07/19 05:42 AM
3

You just got a ton lol. Are you insane?
/r/seduction11/07/19 02:29 AM
8

Do not engage this person. They get off on people critiquing them.
/r/seduction11/07/19 02:00 AM
1

Do not engage this person. They get off on people critiquing them.
/r/seduction11/07/19 01:43 AM
-2

Nope. Solid 8. Met up. Haven’t decided if I’m going to keep her. Bit too vanilla for my tastes.
/r/seduction11/07/19 01:20 AM
0

Not a bot lol. Texted a bit after met up later had a good time.
/r/seduction11/07/19 01:19 AM
1

Just drop her then. Sounds like you aren’t the only one she is trying to play. However, you can be the only one that doesn’t get wrapped around her finger.
/r/seduction11/07/19 12:16 AM
4

Yup. There is actual science behind this as well. If you are feeling low force yourself to smile and you’ll start feeling happier. Low energy? Force yourself to act a little hyper and make quicker movements... ect.
/r/seduction10/07/19 08:18 PM
2

I would suggest dropping it. But, baring that you can just break contact completely and ghost her back. In the future don’t worry about being called a player. Every time I’ve been accused of that it’s lead to sex shortly after. Own it and make her feel like it’s a privilege that you are interested i her... but you are cool with walking away at any moment. Women seeing a guy as a player that isn’t chasing her will drive them nuts.
/r/seduction10/07/19 08:16 PM
1

Fix your bot you dumbass and fuck off.
/r/seduction10/07/19 08:09 PM
2

And being a dick after getting rejected at work is an extra bad thing to be :P. That’s the kind of shit HR loses sleep over.
/r/seduction10/07/19 08:09 PM
1

Read Models.
/r/seduction10/07/19 08:06 PM
1

Don’t need to be creeped out. Just an average frustrated chump trying to build up the courage to talk to you... and failing.
/r/seduction10/07/19 08:06 PM
7

Don’t shit where you eat. At most you can let them know when you are free but don’t try to get numbers while you are working but be aware if you are truly attracting some people there is a chance you will repulse other people. This can have negative consequences for your place of employment.
/r/seduction10/07/19 08:01 PM
5

It’s a FWB. Even 2-3 isn’t a long time to have minimal contact with a mono girlfriend. Regardless of what you want in the long term all you can do is not worry about it and don’t get caught up with the lack of communication. If you can’t handle a casual relationship then move on and tell her you want something more regular in a few days.
/r/seduction10/07/19 07:58 PM
3

Do not reply to this guy. Report him and move along. Do not talk to or engage directly. He is getting off on your direct communication. He violates Reddit’s site wide rules with proxy accounts to avoid bans.
/r/seduction10/07/19 12:14 AM
3

Do not reply to this guy. Report him and move along. Do not talk to or engage directly. He is getting off on your direct communication. He violates Reddit’s site wide rules with proxy accounts to avoid bans.
/r/seduction10/07/19 12:14 AM
3

Do not replay to this guy. Report him and move along. Do not talk to or engage directly. He is getting off on your direct communication. He violates Reddit’s site wide rules with proxy accounts to avoid bans.
/r/seduction10/07/19 12:11 AM
4

I love Toronto. Not in your area so I can’t help you there. But I can help you otherwise. Walk down a street that has some nice bars or clubs for the demographics of women you are interested in. Ask them their name. Ask them some question or simply say “nice to meet you.” If they ask for your name or smile, stick around and talk to them for a moment if you want. Otherwise just keep on walking. This isn’t about picking up anybody. Just get used to that initial interaction. “What’s your favorite b…
/r/seduction10/07/19 12:09 AM
2

You never ask. You also answered your own question. You are scared if you ask to early she will leave.. k. Then don’t fucking ask. You say she likes to take things slow.... so why rush anything? If you are just trying to get her to be your exclusive mono GF so you can put your insecurity at bay of her being attracted to other guys then that’s on you and not her. Insecurity isn’t just important to avoid at the start of a relationship it’s critical to keep at bay for the ENTIRE relationships. Ask …
/r/seduction09/07/19 04:18 PM
2

Right out of the gate and before your feet even touch the pavement your coming from a scarcity mindset. All of these things you say you don’t like sound more like excuses to me. If you’ve had success at bars and clubs but they don’t convert to dates then that’s not an issue with the bars or clubs mate. It’s also not success. When your actions don’t mesh with your intentions you will come off as creepy. Women wont try to see a creep again. I don’t even have traditional clubs or a night life scene…
/r/seduction09/07/19 04:13 PM
2

quick answer. Keep doing what you WERE doing. Your job is to keep up your side of the game same as usual. The relationship dynamics will start to flip a little if she is interested in something more serious. She’ll start having the role of pursuer more. Do not over invest. It’s easy to start getting lazy once she has become more present but keep the routine you had in the first couple dates... if anything pull back a little. Attraction grows in space. For example: Just because she is more keen t…
/r/seduction09/07/19 03:57 PM
1

Please report this person as he consistently violates Reddit’s site wide rules. Check his post history and realize this happens almost daily. Do not engage him directly.
/r/seduction06/07/19 11:11 AM
1

Please report this person as he consistently violates Reddit’s site wide rules. Check his post history and realize this happens almost daily. Do not engage him directly.
/r/seduction06/07/19 11:09 AM
1

Side bar for this sub.
/r/seduction05/07/19 04:25 AM
1

Was referring to sneak. Seen plenty infields from mystery and Neil
/r/seduction05/07/19 04:23 AM
2

And you can drink legally now.. so you can do it any time you fuckin want :D. Grab Models on audible.
/r/seduction04/07/19 04:06 PM
2

Most people don’t. Chances will be better if you don’t get completely wasted. Keep your wits about you and be direct. Read Models before your party. Save getting blitzed for when you are just hanging out with the dudes.
/r/seduction04/07/19 03:51 PM
2

Lol. The bartender rule is it takes your body an hour to metabolize a “drink.” A drink is a bottle/can of beer, 8-12 oz. glass of wine, one shot.... pick one of those AN HOUR. Especially if you have low tolerance... which you do. 10 shots is a lot for even an alcoholic... for you you’re looking at a trip to the toilet and a hangover you’ll regret. Getting wasted doesn’t make you cool... it’s fun sometimes but the only ego it’s feeding is your own or the dude bro you are trying to impress. Enjoy …
/r/seduction04/07/19 03:23 PM
3

Replied already but not on her text: She doesn’t want you to show your wild side by being drunk. She wants you to be direct as fuck with her.
/r/seduction04/07/19 02:56 PM
2

Don’t try to run any game.. seriously. Your going to get blitzed instead. Now that you can go to bars you need to pick what you are going to do. Try to get a date and run game or get drunk. Do not do both or you are going to be back here in a couple months trying to tell us this stuff doesn’t work. If you really want to make an impression on your crush.... Drink responsibly on your birthday and don’t get totally blitzed. Seriously. You’ll look like the sexiest and most mature man in the history …
/r/seduction04/07/19 02:54 PM
1

Sounds like you’ve been prayed upon by some guy trying to sell PUA to you without them know what they fuck they are talking about. Yes you should be funny but not all the time. Everyone loved the court jester but he never got to sit at the table once the feasting started. You need to balance it out more... a lot more. Use a joke to make people laugh then polarize by pushing hem away a bit. Pull the back with an emotional connection or serious conversation then break the ice again it’s another jo…
/r/seduction04/07/19 02:49 PM
1

Tinder is literally a platform based on first impressions (ie looks) lol. Looks are what you have to work with. I hate it when dumbass redpills think tinder is the baseline. It’s like going to a strip club and complaining that the strippers are only interested in your money.
/r/seduction04/07/19 02:45 PM
2

They didn’t have shit like reddit and facebook ;). They had their families pushing them to get into shitty relationships at a young age to get married because “that’s what you do!” it had very little to do with healthy relationships and more about just learning to put up with each-other.
/r/seduction04/07/19 02:41 PM
2

Read Models. Read the side bar.
/r/seduction04/07/19 02:37 PM
9

People like to throw the term “outdated” around a lot here. I would wager this is without fully trying the techniques present. Or the more obvious answer: It’s hard to sell PUA material when some old fart did it better than you a decade ago. He actually went pretty far beyond a lot of the canned material in his more advanced boot camp style(no pun intended) stuff. A lot more about why and how things worked. Yes, he would throw down a canned DHV story here and there and that was more because it’s…
/r/seduction04/07/19 02:33 PM
1

I feel your pain. I’ve definitely been there. Even when you are in a relationship you need to keep texting to making plans and having totally non emotionally consequential conversations. Keep the serious or relationship building talk for in person or through an actual phone call if absolutely necessary. If you do that you can let the phone relax. Also helps give not blow your conversation load when you are in person. Dead air is death. But, not as deadly as over texting. Every time you pick that…
/r/seduction04/07/19 02:05 PM
0

Whatever makes you feel better.
/r/seduction04/07/19 05:47 AM
0

Lol. I just had a woman request for me to dominate her when I get back fro my holiday... 5 min ago. I’m fine.
/r/seduction04/07/19 01:31 AM
1

With great power comes great responsibility. His confidence was off the charts.
/r/seduction03/07/19 09:42 PM
0

34 Caucasian/Middle-Eastern. Dating is... my pants are an exclusive club and there is a waiting line. I can afford to be very picky and I don’t mind making women wait.
/r/seduction03/07/19 08:53 PM
1

Speak from your chest and don’t give a shit if you come off as feminine. One of the most effeminate men I know is also probably one of the finest seducers in the world.
/r/seduction03/07/19 08:39 PM
1

Overthinking like this is a symptom of being needy. Texting doesn’t convey enough information, that is why you need to just use it for making a date or plan and then move on. In person you can tell without any words if they are wanting to fuck. Words and emojis alone do not accurately give you her emotional state or her yours. Make the plan and drop the phone.
/r/seduction03/07/19 08:33 PM
1

WTF. Get a prostitute. Cheaper and infinitely more healthy than this self destructive crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 08:29 PM
1

Cultures change but human instinct and needs are universal.
/r/seduction03/07/19 07:16 PM
2

MOST... lol. You just confessed to making other accounts to avoid bans. enjoy your two year old account getting banned.
/r/seduction30/06/19 06:52 PM
1

Well, get a job so you aren’t living under their thumb. If my parents forbade me from dating a woman just because of how she was raised there would be hell to pay... and I wouldn’t listen to them because I’m an adult.
/r/seduction30/06/19 04:21 PM
1

How dominant in bed are you?
/r/seduction30/06/19 03:58 PM
1

I love reporting this bullshit. Real life fuel.
/r/seduction30/06/19 03:54 PM
1

WTF. What backward place do you live in? Can you please explain to us how this would have a negative impact on someone that you like... enough that it’s a dealbreaker for you?
/r/seduction30/06/19 03:53 PM
5

You get used to touching people. Don’t need to be creepy about it but chances are if you are an average American you’re deathly afraid of physical contact. Touch does not mean sexual harassment: If you briefly make contact with someone in a non sexual way they will tell you or pull away if they are uncomfortable and then you stop. If they don’t then you can escalate in a little bit and touch them more. Simple.
/r/seduction30/06/19 03:46 PM
1

No
/r/seduction30/06/19 03:39 PM
1

Lol. You realize that you.. a person with admittedly 0 experience with sex is trying to win an argument about penis size with me....a person that has had and continues to have a rather prolific and rewarding career with women and sex. I’ve had far more conversations with women, friends, who aren’t trying to protect my precious feelings. Any quality woman you spend time with isn’t going to try to stroke your ego. Sure, girth is fun for them but it’s not going to be a dealbreaker. I know several w…
/r/seduction30/06/19 03:35 PM
1

Well you are guessing wrong and a few girls on reddit with their own preferences is not a valid sample size to represent an entire gender. You need to actually learn about and understand women. I guarantee your preoccupation with your penis size is 1000 times greater than that of any quality woman.
/r/seduction30/06/19 02:53 AM
1

Wrong again mate. How many real women have you discussed this with?
/r/seduction30/06/19 12:56 AM
5

Stop talking to her. stop following them on social media. If you still care about them you should want them to be happy with or without it. Get on with your bad self.
/r/seduction30/06/19 12:55 AM
1

You are being extremely insecure for no reason. Pleas answer this question. How the hell is a woman going to know your penis size if you don’t already have her in bed? How is that going to effect your ability to make an approach and get a date? The only person stoping you is you.
/r/seduction30/06/19 12:32 AM
2

The difference between old school PUA and the newly forming post PUA, PUA :P.
/r/seduction28/06/19 08:34 PM
1

That’s not so many. Half those “articles” are click bate. A Reddit post about penis size with only a couple thousand likes on an active sub isn’t shit. You’re insecure and looking for an excuse to not get over yourself. You don’t need a long dick to hit the spot or stimulate the clit. You don’t need girth so “she can feel full.” Learn something about actual female anatomy and how sex works before you start beating your genitalia up. Every time you get hung up(no pun intended) on your penis size …
/r/seduction28/06/19 08:33 PM
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Lol. The fuck articles are you reading? Scientific fact that size doesn’t matter.... unless you are reading shit from a country like India where unscrupulous magazines are preying on the insecurity of the hyper masculine culture along with sketchy doctors to earn a buck. And you aren’t really small lol. Your floating around average. Seriously I’m going to need a source on “every” article you are reading. Cause this is a lot of bullshit.
/r/seduction28/06/19 06:43 PM
3

Helps a ton.. IF it’s genuine ;). If you have genuine interest then a conversation is easy as fuck to have. That’s what helps. Barring that you need to fall back to open ended question to learn more about the subject and see if you are interested.... if not then move on. Doesn’t matter if she is hot. If she loves monster trucks and you think they are stupid as shit then don’t fake it. You should also let her know what you don’t like. If what you don’t like is a dealbreaker for her then don’t bot…
/r/seduction28/06/19 06:38 PM
1

Fuck off.
/r/seduction28/06/19 06:34 PM
0

Way to support piracy. Trading digital content? So you are promising to delete your copies? I don’t care for RSD but piracy is bullshit and only excusable for children that don’t have a job.
/r/seduction27/06/19 07:33 PM
2

Yup, Models is what I suggest to people wanting to get started. It’s the strongest foundational material available in once place.... Unfortunately a lot of the youtube channels just repackage Models in small chunks and provide it with minimal context so they can seem like the guru... and at the same time they throw out crap like canned DHV stories. I’ve read it myself about 15 times. Keeps me grounded when I get a bit too successful and full of myself. It’s my PUA juice cleanse ;).
/r/seduction27/06/19 07:16 PM
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They sell themselves as the product. They read the books everyone else can already read and then chopped it up as their own content to earn a buck. It’s fine I guess since everyday there are people that don’t know where to start and stumble on them first. People tend to take the word of the first person that communicates with them about a subject. That translates into subs and their very own community that likely doesn’t know better.
/r/seduction27/06/19 03:46 PM
1

You need help from a professional.
/r/seduction27/06/19 12:19 AM
1

You’ve threatened my life before. You waste the time of people with good intentions. You claim people don’t give you advice, they do and that makes you a liar. I hate liars.
/r/seduction27/06/19 12:17 AM
1

Move out from your parent’s house. You are a human parasite.
/r/seduction27/06/19 12:15 AM
2

you are balding and ugly.
/r/seduction27/06/19 12:13 AM
2

I wouldn’t even let my enemies date him. That would be tantamount to torture.
/r/seduction27/06/19 12:13 AM
1

The amount of time you spend posting this shit you could have totally transformed your life for the better. Instead you choose to waste other peoples time because you are an insecure and ugly human. You CHOOSE to waste your time. You have chosen to not better yourself and become a waste of air. Don’t like how people treat you? Stop giving them a reason.
/r/seduction27/06/19 12:11 AM
3

Dude, you get plenty of answers. Get help.
/r/seduction27/06/19 12:06 AM
3

Limited? HA :P. PUA/gamey stuff is a diving board. Inner game is the physical structure the diving board is attatched to and raising it above the pool of water that is dating. You can do a cannon ball and make a lot of waves on the surface or you can try to get as deep as possible. If you are going to pick only one method to work on it would be inner game. All of it really is the application and presentation(big one there) of what gives some guys “it.” When I smile back from across the bar while…
/r/seduction25/06/19 08:59 PM
1

Good try. Dudes insane. check his post history then realize he remakes his account multiple times away to subvert bans.
/r/seduction23/06/19 07:12 PM
1

Lol. Fat and balding. Still here?
/r/seduction23/06/19 07:10 PM
3

Read it again :D
/r/seduction23/06/19 02:45 AM
1

That’s cool. So, are you going to keep trying to follow in their footsteps or take action for yourself?
/r/seduction23/06/19 12:54 AM
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How many hours, nights or weeks before you regret not taking action tonight? PS: Read Models.
/r/seduction23/06/19 12:51 AM
1

That scarcity mindset isn’t going to help you get into anybodies pants. Selective women; often called “crazy”, could just be detecting this strange desperation through your behavior and that’s what’s turning her off.
/r/seduction23/06/19 12:47 AM
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Wrong sub? Tell your parents?
/r/seduction21/06/19 11:56 PM
1

If you want to over simplify sure. You could say that about almost any skill that involves interacting with people; business, family, politics... Not being needy, Learning to carry a conversation. Having social awareness. Being able to handle rejection. Making your intentions known so you aren’t wasting your time and theirs... ect.
/r/seduction21/06/19 11:55 PM
1

PM them. Their names are in the side bar.
/r/seduction21/06/19 11:48 PM
3

Yup. Easy fix would be a positive karma requirement. Not even a bot. He gets really touchy when you call him insecure or tell him he is balding.
/r/seduction21/06/19 11:39 PM
3

Change your demographic. Try older women ;). I would highly suggest you grab a copy of She Ain’t It on audible. Deals precisely with what you seem to be working out in your head.
/r/seduction21/06/19 10:29 PM
3

Dont worry so much on how many approaches you do but what you learn from them... which sounds like you are doing. Lots of approaches over time can help with anxiety but they can also be a crutch or excuse to avoid escalation or closing. It’s easier than you think to have a good opener and then press the self destruct button to move on and prevent these things.
/r/seduction21/06/19 10:18 PM
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Told ya dumbass. Stop posting here.
/r/seduction21/06/19 10:10 PM
1

Well sounds like you got your shit together :D. Yeah her begging to get you back is the natural response. If she is an LA 9/10 she’s probably been the one to do the dumping 99% of the time. Entitled people are going to act like entitled people. Do you meet these women at clubs or during day game? You are literally in the capital of illusion :P. I’m sure there are some perfectly quality LTR women out there. If I want a relationship I go for day game far more or slow play from my friend group unti…
/r/seduction21/06/19 10:08 PM
2

It’s not so much as morals. Women have a lot more to risk long term than men which is why you see the prevalence of some tests. These are perfectly valid. They are trying to avoid the pump and dump scenario. To combat this you pretty much need to let them know you are just looking for a fuck. If you are trying to pull them into a relationship too early in order to sleep with them then you aren’t being clear with your intentions. My personal rule is actually that I don’t even go on a date with wo…
/r/seduction21/06/19 09:10 PM
2

In general it’s actually not for no apparent reason. There are certain demographics that will play more games. These tend to be younger and more physically attractive women. They get away with it and there is very much a certain point when “passing” the shit test is you actually losing it. Shit tests.. not matter how many or how frequent are a non issue if you’ve been sincere with what you want from the relationship. It’s not about passing them. it’s about being yourself and if that shit doesn’t…
/r/seduction21/06/19 08:18 PM
1

Lol. If you don’t want to deal with a kid then next. You are allowed to change what you desire in a partner and not compromise in those traits.
/r/seduction21/06/19 08:00 PM
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Yes but you have to be acting at least their age in terms of social development. They don’t want to date a boy they need to take care of. Especially women 35-50... they aint going to put up with just about any shit. They want people to be direct and have little patience for men without their shit together. Societly tells women their life is pretty much over at 40. This get’s internalized to toxic levels. Don’t waste their time and you’ll have the time of your life...
/r/seduction21/06/19 05:50 PM
1

LOL. Inflate the price of a product? Check. Offer inflated product for 75% off to create value? Check. Attempt to create a sense of importance? (We are totally doing this but we NEED YOU!!!!). Check. Add time pressure? Check. Still selling a product that has zero manufacturing costs and likely lifted information from free or other sources? Check. What Tai Lopez/“Get rich with youtube guy walking through a rented mansion” bullshit is this?
/r/seduction21/06/19 05:01 PM
1

She’s being polite. Just because someone appreciates your compliment doesn’t mean they are attracted to you. Why didn’t you say that in person? Why not escalate to a conversation. Don’t expect people to try to converse with you when you are just opening a discussion with statements. Statements that are pretty obvious. Wait Let’s try this: “The sky is blue. Tonight there will be stars in the sky.” Okay where is my conversation? How are you supposed to respond to that with anything other than 1-3 …
/r/seduction21/06/19 04:54 PM
1

Why do you want to get married to that person? That is the real question. You can live with someone without getting married. You can still sleep with them. If you love them enough that you want them at your bedside or to be at theirs when they are injured enough that it’s “family only”( a rule that hospitals let slide all the time anyway). Is it for insurance? Taxes? Is it actually to help your own insecurity by tricking yourself into thinking that just because people are married they aren’t all…
/r/seduction21/06/19 04:47 PM
1

In the end you definitely don’t need to choose one. Who said that? Polyamory is a thing and I would highly suggest it if you are the type of person that is confident enough to no get jealous. If you can play the field then why can’t they? The catch is you need to communicate with your multiple partners.... a lot. Play within the agreed boundaries and not try to keep any secrets about your dating habits.
/r/seduction21/06/19 04:40 PM
1

If minimum wage is rich.. sure. I coached them enough to not be afraid to talk to women, come to them with clear intentions and not blame rejection on their looks.... that’s it.
/r/seduction21/06/19 02:11 AM
1

Lol. Scrawny and geeks. Why would they need to be jacked? They don’t use their race as an excuse for inaction. They are genuinely fun and confident guys to be around. Why do you care so much about looks?’
/r/seduction21/06/19 01:16 AM
2

Dude.. you get answers all the fucking time. You are in denial. Stop posting here and I’ll stop policing you.
/r/seduction21/06/19 12:04 AM
1

Lol. I have a few Asian friends and they kill it with women. They don’t even try to run game.
/r/seduction21/06/19 12:02 AM
2

BRILLIANT
/r/seduction20/06/19 11:30 PM
1

Sit somewhere where you are facing the door to avoid prowling. Or sit at the bar and chat up whoever is next to you. If it’s not super busy bartenders are pretty happy to talk to someone that isn’t slurring their speech and have loads of stories to tell.
/r/seduction19/06/19 10:02 PM
5

Lol yes. But it takes quite a bit of time. Men and women will ping pong back and forth in a healthy relationship with a smaller and smaller gap forming. However, in general men over invest emotionally waaaaaay faster than women. This isn’t because women are evil or narcissist it’s because they have more to risk and have a rather large amount of abundance to your average frustrated chump. One problem is that once men are in a relationship they quit the seduction process. They get lazy and actuall…
/r/seduction19/06/19 06:47 PM
2

It’s creepy. It’s even creepier your boy screenshotted it. Chasing this thread won’t help you get less needy.
/r/seduction19/06/19 06:37 PM
6

Glad the sub was able to help. 1,2 and 3 are solid pillars to fully embrace.
/r/seduction19/06/19 06:36 PM
2

Don’t spend to much time collecting new information if you’ve already read Models but have not practiced the basics. Hoarding info will actually increase your approach anxiety as you will put more pressure on yourself to preform. It’s also very easy to think “just one more course/video/book.” Get out there.. practice the basics then you can browse around and ask for information to plug your holes that you can’t seem to nail.
/r/seduction19/06/19 06:33 PM
2

Oh... I’m sorry are you a mod? I wasn’t aware this was your thread or sub. Considering how often you have to come here for advice and then disregard that advice I would say you technique doesn’t work. You need to teach yourself some humility and empathy. Also, not thinking women are inferior or a different species would help your shit considerably. It seems you break down completely the second you get tested. This is not the behavior of a strong and confident man. This is the behavior of a needy…
/r/seduction18/06/19 07:37 PM
2

How fresh? In general you should always be direct. Chances are a relationship that long didn’t suddenly break down in a single day. Don’t come from a frame of wanting to become her boyfriend. Come from a place of wanting to have fun... lot’s of fun. It’s always important to not become to emotionally invested but this is doubly so when dealing with someone out of a very LTR . Encourage them to play the field. Then present yourself as an emotionally low maintenance and extremely fun field to play …
/r/seduction18/06/19 07:33 PM
1

Awesome pm me how it goes!
/r/seduction17/06/19 09:31 PM
5

One thing I enjoy : Open a set to friend-zone and have operate as your wing women. This will also give you a home base to return to. You can also make a fun game out of it by racing them to see which member of the group can get more phone numbers. Conversion is your friend.
/r/seduction17/06/19 08:41 PM
4

Is this a first date? If so then don’t go to a movie. if you are dead set on seeing a movie Aladdin would be an obvious fucking choice. Memorize a “A Whole New World” ahead of time and quietly sing along as if nobody can hear. 😛
/r/seduction17/06/19 08:35 PM
4

This. Attraction grows in space.
/r/seduction17/06/19 08:33 PM
1

Building up small physical touches more and more tends to be called kino(kinesthetic) escalation. Helps someone that is attracted to you get used to your physical contact. Try “let’s fuck” instead. Stronger language to tap into his male lizard brain. If he is a shy guy but you’ve been getting him comfortable with your touch he should be all for it. Sometimes being too direct with a shy man can make them very anxious unless you’ve primed them for it.
/r/seduction17/06/19 08:25 PM
1

It’s more about being a little more forward and encouraging him to be comfortable being direct. Send a strong signal that you are interested in him to give him something to read.
/r/seduction17/06/19 08:15 PM
6

Start with approaching to get used to it. Don’t worry about holding a conversation or trying to escalate to a close. Get that down then work on your conversation skill. Then you can work on escalation and being direct. Telling a woman you are interested in her and want to do naughty things isn’t being scummy, it’s being confident and honest enough to not waste her time and yours.
/r/seduction17/06/19 07:25 PM
2

Making out or sex? What else would you do lol :P. It’s r/seduction that tends to be the baseline people come here for.
/r/seduction17/06/19 07:16 PM
3

No More Mr. Nice Guy very well could save your life. Barring that you should see a therapist. Depression is serious business and won’t be cured by going to Reddit... it can be downright deadly.
/r/seduction17/06/19 06:14 PM
5

How do you know it was on purpose? Did you ask her and she told you? Only way to find out lol
/r/seduction17/06/19 06:08 PM
1

Stop posting on r/seduction and r/askseddit and I’ll stop reporting and downvoting your ass. Sound fair? Plenty of more relevant subs where people aren’t tired of your shit yet.
/r/seduction17/06/19 01:54 AM
1

Probably done. But, you’re going to have to make your intentions clear. What do you have to lose at this point. In the future you need to be honest. If you are interacting with a girl and have a sexual attraction to them but act like just a friend you are being dishonest to yourself and her. If you care about her as a friend would you lie to her? if you just want to have sex then why try to just be her friend?
/r/seduction17/06/19 01:49 AM
2

Dance inside the club. Chat people up outside or taking a break from dancing.
/r/seduction17/06/19 01:46 AM
1

Please don’t repost. I answered your question earlier.
/r/seduction17/06/19 01:37 AM
1

Add in some more pics of you with other people. Be honest with your profile. Matches are nice and if you’re actually wife hunting then I think you are set. Other than that .. fuck Tinder lol. You seem to be asking about your profile quite a bit. get out in the field. Something isn’t working for you online.
/r/seduction17/06/19 01:36 AM
2

This guy has severe mental issues and posts this stuff every day across every sub he can until he gets his account banned. Claims he doesn’t get any good answers. You’ve given a good answer but I’m gonna kill this post and you’ll see him post the same thing in a few minutes.
/r/seduction17/06/19 01:30 AM
3

Try gaging their potential even interest sooner. Fortunately 6 min. Isn’t too long. open by asking for their name first. Don’t feel bad about the boyfriend line. There are tends in rejection and this may just be one in your area. You can also convert them into a wing pretty easily. Appreciate their relationship and don’t even be afraid to say something like “Oh, great! Could you do me a favor? I’m working on my dating skills and could really use your opinion on something. Do these pants make my …
/r/seduction16/06/19 11:54 PM
1

Ooooh yeaaaah. Uuuuuh huh. We see the rhythms of the heart.
/r/seduction16/06/19 11:33 PM
1

Start working on your own confidence in general. If you wish to have a more submissive and dominant dynamic you’ll still need to be able to communicate or else you are going to smack your head into co-dependence or an unhealthy power dynamic.
/r/seduction16/06/19 11:30 PM
4

Think really hard about if you want to be that guy in a close knit friend group. I’ll say it and so will many others. if she is willing to cheat with you she is willing to cheat on you. If you manage to form a relationship with her there is a chance you’ll be pretty heavily alienated and that fear of her cheating will always be burrowing around in your head. If you just want a hookup is it worth making another person feel like utter shit or banking on a lapse in her judgment which will lead to s…
/r/seduction16/06/19 11:25 PM
1

She isn’t interested even if it’s a lie. This seems to be a recurring problem for you. I feel ya. How much time to you tend to spend with them before this comes up?
/r/seduction16/06/19 11:17 PM
5

Be very direct. Older women don’t like to play games. Push and pull is still very effective but you’ll be surprised how much she’ll appreciate a far more blunt approach than you are probably used to or comfortable with. She’s been playing the game a lot longer than you so if you get cute she’ll know what you are trying to pull and to her it’s likely to be read as having a lack of confidence. Example: if she is wearing a nice dress that makes her ass look fantastic say : “That dress looks sexy as…
/r/seduction16/06/19 10:58 PM
3

Walk beside him, hug his arm tightly and press his arm between your breasts and rest your head on his shoulder. Quietly ask him if you can go somewhere private with him.
/r/seduction16/06/19 10:52 PM
1

Seconded.
/r/seduction16/06/19 10:48 PM
1

Cute. Do you always validate your own fetishes with multiple accounts?
/r/seduction16/06/19 10:41 PM
2

We should get this pinned. 100% works every time. Just tried it twenty times myself in a different time stream.
/r/seduction16/06/19 09:52 PM
3

Models is the foundation I recommend people to have. Sometimes it’s all you need. Traditional PUA books and information are the rest of the building.
/r/seduction16/06/19 09:17 PM
2

You need to move on. You’ve both been through some shit it sounds like. The needy guy will view that trauma as evidence of being close to someone. The objective man will look back on that and think to himself “gee... i really fucked that shit up. Time to move on.” Wanting her back is natural. Your brain will need time to adjust. You need to unfollow her on social media. Throw out her shit as directed. She want’s to move on and you trying to remain even a friend isn’t going to help her with that …
/r/seduction16/06/19 08:57 PM
1

Sure, he can try and maybe he can succeed. It’s still generally not worth it for many reasons. If you need to pursue a taken woman just because she is giving you IOI’s then you are being a needy little bitch. If your game is on then a strong man doesn’t need chase after every short skirt that smiles at him. Wait 30 seconds to seduce a prettier and higher quality woman that isn’t in a decent relationship. Otherwise, you are being the desperate bitch... bitch.
/r/seduction16/06/19 03:33 PM
3

Lol. From your posts it seems like you don’t know the first thing about women. Your insecurity is fucking amazing. The women that do post here are quite knowledgeable. You would do well to listen to them. FYI I’m a dude. I’ve probably had more sex this year than you’ve had in your entire life. I have a small army of wing women available to me because my partners all still like me. I don’t need to keep making new accounts because I’m not a dipshit. How’s that negative karma working out for you? I…
/r/seduction16/06/19 02:36 AM
1

What would that have to do with anything?
/r/seduction16/06/19 12:57 AM
21

Shhhhhhh. You know how they get when you don’t lump people together into easily defined groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 12:35 AM
16

Read books about general conversation. Doesn’t have to be about seduction honestly. Ask open ended questions. Get them to do most of the talking. Relate to the hookpoints they give you. Mirror their last few words. Don’t be afraid to argue but don’t be a dick about it. Don’t agree all of the time. Avoid nodding and saying “yeah/uh-huh” too much. Start questions with “what”. And not “do you like...?” Ask a “how” question if you need a hook point but not “how do...”. Try “how would...” That should…
/r/seduction16/06/19 12:33 AM
1

One of my best lady friends is a 5’2 battle axe/badass . Not conventionally attractive but everybody wants her.
/r/seduction16/06/19 12:13 AM
1

I’m really good at dirty talk... I’m also a dominant brat tamer...
/r/seduction15/06/19 11:59 PM
4

Yes... i do it all the time. i got shit to do :P and they love that I’m not hammering them with texts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 10:55 PM
3

Initial opinions are not necessarily true ;). In fact they are usually wrong. I child can be inclined to believe in god or the Easter bunny because they don’t know any better. My base instincts are to be afraid of snakes. My reason has taught me otherwise. There is a reason humans fly in airplanes now instead of hiding in trees. Base, animal attraction is 100% physical. That is.. PRIMITIVE attraction. I’de rather use gun then a spear to catch my dinner but to each their own. What factors change …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 10:32 PM
17

Bingo. Hormones want to fuck. Teenagers are basically only a quarter step above cavemen in terms of social and emotional development.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 10:13 PM
3

If teens had valid opinions or preferences the voting age would be 15 and the primary way people ask each-other out on dates in high-school wouldn’t be “slide into the DMs.” They show what each gender is attracted to at the most base and shallow level...before anybody knows any better. As life experience starts getting packed on those initial attractions are usually buried under countless other factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 10:11 PM
5

What if we also included direct time keeping track of the child, changing diapers, waking up in the middle of the night ect. ? 24/7 daycare would be fucking expensive. Child support seems like a fucking bargain.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 10:01 PM
3

So? Different country. Long distance isn’t worth the time or energy for either of you unless you are already in a LTR.
/r/seduction15/06/19 09:49 PM
2

You pass the shit test because you don’t give a fuck if she is clubbing. Having options and not being desperate helps with the whole not being a needy man thing...
/r/seduction15/06/19 09:43 PM
1

Why does this sound like an incel troll?
/r/seduction15/06/19 09:41 PM
2

Did you read and internalize Models?
/r/seduction15/06/19 08:16 PM
2

The Art of Sedution is exactly what you are looking for.
/r/seduction15/06/19 08:15 PM
1

Watch this guys post history. He’ll post this shit on every sub he can till his account gets banned. Then he’ll try again.
/r/seduction15/06/19 08:14 PM
2

Oh hi friend! Got your new account already? You are insecure, lonely, selfish, fat, ugly, balding. Why wouldn’t they laugh?
/r/seduction15/06/19 08:13 PM
2

Regardless of gender. Don’t complain if you didn’t have the foresight to get prenup.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 07:38 PM
2

Better go head over to a sex advice sub. But, definitely sounds like a mental issue. that fact that you think it’s related to your age sounds like you are worried far to much about performance in bed.
/r/seduction15/06/19 05:27 PM
1

Yup, nailed it. To many people think you need to go all or nothing for a full routine. Small steps work best.
/r/seduction15/06/19 04:39 PM
1

Please add context to to this link.
/r/seduction15/06/19 04:38 PM
1

“Hi” is a great opener but try asking for their name first.
/r/seduction15/06/19 04:37 PM
1

Lol. That’s doesn’t prove women cheat consistently. That proves that you and your mates go after low class women. That’s not a pill to swallow. Some people are just shitty. If you are running with wings then you are probably out in a club environment. Chances are if someone is there they are looking for a fuck or attention. This isn’t a baseline of society. To be fair... If I were to find out a woman I was interested in was dating a RP I would AMOG the shit out of him and happily take his girlfr…
/r/seduction15/06/19 04:27 PM
1

This is one of those bullshit TRP and incel arguments that men use to give them an excuse to treat women like shit and be insecure without feeling bad.... or to justify their own cheating. The fact is this is the pot calling the kettle black. Men cheat more frequently than women.
/r/seduction15/06/19 03:45 PM
0

Wrong.
/r/seduction15/06/19 03:41 PM
2

This dude needs psychological help. He posts the same few posts with a. New account after he gets banned. He’s been doing this for a month.
/r/seduction15/06/19 12:00 AM
2

Multiple readings are your friend. Treat it like a text book and make sure you really internalize the information. Then you can decide what works and doesn’t work for you.
/r/seduction14/06/19 09:47 PM
3

Read Models. 😆😆
/r/seduction14/06/19 09:17 PM
3

Joking and having it roll off you is your best bet. In terms of the more dominant aspect she is requesting you may want to head over to r/bdsmadvice. Ask them how to tame a brat ;). Example : When she complains about your flat being a mess try saying this slowly to her “Then why don’t we get you a sexy little maid outfit so I can stare at your ass while you clean it up.” Cheeky smile of course but be dead serious with your eye contact
/r/seduction14/06/19 09:09 PM
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I approach because i genuinely love women and love spending time with them. I’m not thinking about numbers or even fucking. I’m thinking “huh, she’s cute.. I wonder what her personality is like?” Seduction is about maximizing your chances in developing a relationships IF you are compatible with someone through self and situational awareness. Not numbers a numbers game. You don’t need PUA to just get laid. Many people including myself use the skills we’ve learned and practiced to become a respect…
/r/seduction14/06/19 12:40 AM
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Women playing “games” is fine. Are we not attempting to play them ourselves by our very presence on this sub? Cast the first stone and all of that... If your going to get into the habit of completely ditching them when they do you are going to be a very lonely guy.... ironically the best way to play back and succeed at these games and tests is of course.. to fuck off :). Work on your neediness to “know.” You don’t need to know if she likes you. You will become much more confident and desirable i…
/r/seduction12/06/19 11:00 PM
2

Ain’t is fun? Then you’ve got the athletic and attractive 22 year old dudes crying on here that they can’t manage to “slide in the dms” of that ONE college girl they have a crush on in a class and won’t see her ever again.
/r/seduction12/06/19 10:32 PM
1

Models first. Then you can think about what other information you want to research critically.
/r/seduction12/06/19 10:10 PM
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Looks don’t matter that much. You are over valuing your looks and ignoring your charisma. How often do you approach women?
/r/seduction12/06/19 09:34 PM
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He makes the same several posts in every sub he can until he gets banned....then does it again with a different account.
/r/seduction12/06/19 01:00 AM
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Oh hi.. If I was a mod I would ban you and get reddit to completely ban you. Just sliding in here to report you.
/r/seduction12/06/19 12:42 AM
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Is a whole world different than “which booze should I feed her to make her more horny.” If I’m bringing a woman back to my place I’ve made it extremely clear what’s going on with VERY clear intentions, she’s consented enthusiastically and we’ve already engaged physically. Every step closer to the door is one more step closer to orgasms. Then wine can come after to unwind not be initial lube. Have some respect for your partners folks.
/r/seduction11/06/19 11:09 PM
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If you are falling back to booze or even trying to leverage it to make a girl more into you... you’re doing it wrong. Using any chemical in any amount to sway her judgment or mood for you favor is well I don’t want to get into an ethical argument right now... let’s call it... not classy.
/r/seduction11/06/19 10:59 PM
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What should you do? nothing. Don’t be that guy that fucks up a relationship. It shows you have little respect for her wishes and a woman that will cheat with you will cheat on you. I made that mistake once in highschool. Next thing I knew I had a guy 4 years older than me and twice my mass wanting to hunt me down and kick my ass lol. The relationship was toxic from the start and didn’t go anywhere beyond a few anxious sexual encounters. I was an asshole and got was I deserved for obliterating a …
/r/seduction11/06/19 09:50 PM
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Thank you for your words. You get a lot of that anywhere confused men are having trouble with women. A lot of us here are trying to help them so they don’t fall down the TRP/misogyny hole. Making your intentions clear and being able to have a conversation is easy on paper but MANY men and women have been so poorly and toxically socialized with the opposite sex that vast quantities of walls need to be broken down. This is where breaking human interactions down into steps such as “The opener”, “ki…
/r/seduction11/06/19 07:05 PM
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If you’ve approached all 3k attractive women and been friend zoned by them all then I’m not sure moving is going to help ya :P. Recalibrate how you view opportunities to meet people. Snowball rejections into friends/wing women to start building your social circle. You’ll be amazed the pockets that people end up hanging out in. The party of a friend of a friend in the town over may just have your next partner. Always be classy AF. Reputation gets around fast in a small town. You can be rejected b…
/r/seduction11/06/19 08:33 AM
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I support this message.
/r/seduction11/06/19 08:24 AM
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Ask r/bdsmadvice :P
/r/seduction11/06/19 12:37 AM
2

You can friendzone them pretty fast. They usually appreciate the directness and honesty. They are way better at not crushing on men they know are not interested than we are to them.
/r/seduction10/06/19 10:42 PM
1

You are balding and hideous. We really doing this again?
/r/seduction10/06/19 10:14 PM
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Which is only a day and a half. If a woman is seeing two men that are relatively equal in qualities who do you think she is going to be more attracted to? The man that tries to talk to her every day and remind them of their date or ask if she is still going. Or The man that has enough going on in his life that he isn’t freaking out about her not texting much. Why wait for the later to show up to change your behavior? Doesn’t matter if she ghosts you. You need to move on. If she’s interested she’…
/r/seduction10/06/19 10:10 PM
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You don’t know if they are going to reject you because you don’t know anything about them. if you are making up stories about their personality purely on physicality then you are putting other people on a pedestal above you. You are getting nervous about using “technique” when you havent even master the basics. Nobody is going to castrate you for saying hi and asking for her name. Get that down then you can worry about carrying the conversation and escalating in a few weeks.
/r/seduction10/06/19 08:25 PM
2

It’s going to vary greatly from woman to woman and chances are it isn’t going to be as competitive or anxious as if the genders were reversed.
/r/seduction10/06/19 08:19 PM
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They aren’t anymore attention junkies than 90% of men out there. Sources: Man freaking out when she doesn’t respond or validate them immediately and thinking they are ghosted.
/r/seduction10/06/19 08:11 PM
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please read the side bar.
/r/seduction10/06/19 08:09 PM
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Stare at her breasts. You obviously deserve respect from women.
/r/seduction10/06/19 08:08 PM
1

Sounds like a you are a switch ;).
/r/seduction10/06/19 08:07 PM
1

PUA is all about communication at the end of the day. Tricks are nice and get some people started but they are damn near laughable once you get the experience and a few success under your belt. Not laughable because they are ineffective but laughable to think you at one points needed to have books of prepared material to talk to women.
/r/seduction10/06/19 08:06 PM
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Models is a foundation for your inner game. Now you can approach the other PUA material out there with objectivity and focus on your gaps and what you actually want to achieve.
/r/seduction10/06/19 07:58 PM
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Inb4 incels: The only reason men think looks matter so much is because we are projecting our own priorities on to women. For us physical beauty is damn near the top. For women they are a distant number 5-10 on the top ten list. Well behind grooming and behavioral traits.
/r/seduction10/06/19 07:55 PM
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Your emotional investment is extremely high, extremely early. Regardless of your logic you have built the idea of a “date” up to some ritual or dance that has a certain protocol. It doesn’t. You are hanging out with someone at a designated time on a specific date... at a specific location... when you meet your male or female just friends for a movie do you consider it a date? What’s the difference? One person you have sexual chemistry with and the other you don’t.
/r/seduction10/06/19 07:50 PM
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Start with getting comfortable approaching people. hi is the best opener in the world. Don’t do it every day. Do it when you see someone you are attracted to and want to learn more. Once you are comfortable with that you can move to the next step and try to carry a conversation. Then work on escalation and getting comfortable touching people, flirting, ect. Then you can work on closing. Keep it organic and fun. Don’t start filling yourself with numbers or women you HAVE TO APPROACH. You can appr…
/r/seduction10/06/19 07:40 PM
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You are over thinking it. Just don’t be needy. Overthinking it like this is you being needy. You’ve kissed already. It’s time to be direct. Just don’t over invest emotionally which I sense you are already doing.. it’s not to be a psychopath that can drop chicks and smash puss. You are doing it for her sake so she doesn’t get put in the precarious position of needing to reciprocate or deny an insecure guys emotional investment. That will let her relax.
/r/seduction10/06/19 07:33 PM
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Ouch. She basically threw her underwear at your face multiple times. Why didn’t you try to kiss her? We can talk the talk all night but when it’s time to walk the walk you need to fucking run.
/r/seduction10/06/19 07:29 PM
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Messaging her and telling her she is missing the article is pretty redundant(she probably knows) and a cheap attempt to see her again. She’ll either ask about it or you can point it out next time she is over. or if you never see her again then add it to your lost and found drawer...
/r/seduction10/06/19 07:25 PM
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Sounds like she is busy till Sunday and you are becoming over invested in her too early. you instinct is to lock her down ASAP. Her’s is to continue vetting you and getting to know you better before she emotionally commits. The last thing she want’s is to date a guy for a month.. determine it’s not working out and then have an obsessive guy blowing up her phone for as long as the relationship lasted. Likely expletives and name calling involved. She is guarding against a guy screaming at her for …
/r/seduction10/06/19 07:21 PM
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Think to yourself. “How long before I regret not approaching this person and wondering what could have been?”
/r/seduction10/06/19 07:17 PM
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It’s both or neither depending on the context. Genuine social proof is a powerful and pretty basic component of dating and attraction. Usually it’s far closer to. “Oh that guy looks like he probably isn’t an abuser or rapist because other women like him.” If you are insecure enough that shit tests bother you then go out with a female friend and have your mind blown.
/r/seduction10/06/19 07:00 PM
1

Be honest with yourself. how many times have you posted this crap? Don’t you think that may be a red flag for your own stability?
/r/seduction10/06/19 06:31 PM
1

It only shows up if you go to a valid location where other people are using Outside.
/r/seduction09/06/19 09:20 PM
3

Work on self improvement first. If reading internet opinions is giving you anxiety you should get good with yourself before attempting to form romantic relationships with women.
/r/seduction09/06/19 09:16 PM
1

Try the app called Outside. It’s great for meeting new people. You can search by location and even venue. It can be a little overwhelming as you effectively have your profile linked with all of your social media but you still need to rewrite it for each possible match. When you do get a match setting up a time and place to meet for the first time doesn’t need to happen because the filter has already set the first interaction up for you!
/r/seduction09/06/19 08:55 PM
1

Damn, you beat me to it.
/r/seduction09/06/19 05:03 PM
1

Therapy isn’t a cure all but it’s a starting point. That you are trying speaks volumes and you shouldn’t be so hard on yourself.
/r/seduction09/06/19 04:53 PM
3

Best pickup line is “hi, what’s your name?” Done.
/r/seduction09/06/19 02:04 AM
3

The only thing you need to worry about in terms of harassment is if they ask you to stop or go away and you don’t
/r/seduction09/06/19 02:00 AM
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Having a normal conversation with someone on the street isn’t ever harassment unless you start following them, staring at at commenting on their tits or grabbing at them.
/r/seduction09/06/19 01:59 AM
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There is a difference in intention that most women experience when they are cold approached. This will leave a very bitter taste in their mouth. Imagine a woman that you are very much not attracted to walking up to you on the street. Imagine her with weak or creepy eye contact. Imagine her trying to make extremely shallow small talk in which all of your responses will be yes or no. Now, imagine you are busy and just trying to get some where. Imagine this happening to you multiple times a week, e…
/r/seduction09/06/19 01:55 AM
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If your body doesn’t have the proper nutrients or energy to power itself you mind will be heavily effected. A diet you can’t maintain will likely have you packing back on the pounds VERY fast when you break it. Don’t need to starve yourself. Consult your doctor or consult a nutritionist if you are serious about dieting.
/r/seduction09/06/19 01:47 AM
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Orgasms are still orgasms :P.
/r/seduction09/06/19 01:19 AM
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Both should have power and not abuse it. When one or the other holds the vast majority of power over the other then that is a pretty broken relationship. I’m quite happy playing hardball with a woman if she can play it back or the power dynamic has been discussed and agreed upon. Even in the BDSM community a Slave/Master relationship has equal levels of understanding and power at the end of the day... regardless of the slave handling the housework and being punished for being naughty :P.
/r/seduction09/06/19 01:17 AM
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Sounds great! Yeah, I wasn’t calling you an incel it’s just that everything you said literally drives incels insane because it requires a healthy does of self reflection. Good on you. You’ve got your shit figured out better than most 40 year olds I know.
/r/seduction09/06/19 01:12 AM
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Usually. If I’m not working during they day i’m either sleeping in(anything before noon is early for me) , making art or hanging out with lady friends or getting ready to hang out with lady friends. I don’t really like to treat daygame and nightgame as different things. A 5 min kiss close works only a tad better at night and can be impractical during the day but you just need to replace kiss close with number close or date close(my personal preference). Still the same body language, confidence a…
/r/seduction09/06/19 01:05 AM
1

Solid and good/simple explanation. You need to post this in r/braincels . Any downvotes you get from them will just reaffirm the validity of this.
/r/seduction09/06/19 12:44 AM
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Sorry to say but “straight up talking to them” is you number one thing you can do to increase your attraction. All of the AAA body language and fashion isn’t going to help you without confidence. High school is mostly a wash. Focus on your studies or get a GED if you don’t plan on going to college. Any dating habits you do manage to pick up in HS are just going to have to be unlearned in a couple of years once people’s hormones start balancing out. You’ve got a Golden opportunity to focus on dev…
/r/seduction09/06/19 12:42 AM
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Google tests women play on men or search this sub for the countless complaining posts from men that have failed them :P. You’ll get some blowback on here for wanting to do this but it’s a vital component of filtering out bad partners.
/r/seduction09/06/19 12:27 AM
1

You can get an insta in about 5 minutes from just about anybody. People like followers and validation. If you haven’t rad it yet I would suggest reading How to Win Friends and Influence People. If you want to take education seriously you will need to learn to navigate other peoples egos and get them comfortable at the same time. Write out your own personal PUA bible. Break your own process up step by step and then really chop all of that up to teach people in bite sized doses. So many coaches/te…
/r/seduction09/06/19 12:24 AM
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Don’t wear anything too skimpy. Go for 2/5 skin to clothes. Yes, your arms, legs and face count. Listen to some high energy music while you are waiting around for the date to start. Turn off your phone during the date... only bust it out if you are trying to signal discomfort or boredom. I’m going to get a lot of flack for this one from the less secure guys on the sub: Shit test! You need to keep qualifying him. If he is jumping through all of your hoops like a good little puppy then you should …
/r/seduction08/06/19 11:55 PM
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How are you still dwelling on this? This event is a non issues and you need to move on. The #1 thing that is going to negatively affect your future success is you obsession and neediness in trying to validate your action... or lack of.
/r/seduction08/06/19 11:14 PM
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Just because you are in a LTR doesn’t mean the seduction ends. Yes, the dynamic changes but it’s closer to her becoming the pursuer and not you. As a consequence and as a feature women don’t tend to develop feelings for emotional escalation at the same rate. She is used to guys buying ready to move in and make babies after a few weeks. Especially when the possibility of other partners replacing him haunts his mind(even though this thought process is the most likely thing to push a woman away). O…
/r/seduction08/06/19 10:51 PM
1

Create your own home base. Find a place you like and become a regular. Get to know the bartenders and other regulars.
/r/seduction08/06/19 09:50 PM
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Well you got my answer before. I’m still 34. Allow me to brag for you. Last night I went out solo: Chatted up a couple college girls that looked like they were completely out of their element but was on the way to have a smoke so didn’t really want to hang around. 20 min later I see them leaving and wave them over to me. Kiss closed the second I saw her smiling. One slipped me her number. Dragged a girl that was dancing on the outskirts of the crowd deeper in. She’ll be coming over monday. Chatt…
/r/seduction08/06/19 09:44 PM
1

This is where I have some disagreement with the other PUGs out there. You don’t need to force yourself to go out. Focus more on getting yourself into that mood instead.
/r/seduction08/06/19 09:02 PM
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You aren’t going to have some women be infatuated with you and think you are the sexiest man alive without making a few think you are creepy. Be sincere. If you think she is interested then make a move. She’ll tell you she is or isn’t after. Wether or not you take rejection gracefully and with respect is what people will talk about.
/r/seduction08/06/19 08:57 PM
1

Nothing to use. Just be a confident man that isn’t obsessed with mate guarding because he has over abundance.
/r/seduction08/06/19 08:52 PM
1

Did she say you could? No? There is your answer.
/r/seduction08/06/19 08:33 PM
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Text game is basically just setting up dates and making sure you both exist. Flowery language is fine because it helps evoke emotion. This only works reliably in person. You also don’t need to lead the conversation. She can be leading it and as long as you keep hooking into the subject she is talking about you can relate and then push it forward a little to get her back to talking. I had a one hour conversation with a woman last night and I said maybe 30 words to her 1000. I’ll be seeing her and…
/r/seduction08/06/19 08:32 PM
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I would suggest therapy. Most of the stuff you will learn hear wont work if in the back of your head you are effectively hating an entire gender. That shit comes through in your body language even if you are saying the right words. Experienced PUAs thrive rejection. It is fuel to make themselves better and not blame others. We know we will be rejected, that is a guarantee. What matters is how you process that rejection and appreciate it or loath it.
/r/seduction08/06/19 08:17 PM
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Spent a night in Dublin. Went to one of those cheesy discos in a hotel. Lots of tourists from the rest of Europe and even the states. Not good for a LTR but still had a great night solo ;).
/r/seduction08/06/19 08:11 PM
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That’s what the rest of the week is for. Kissin girls is mah 3rd favorite hobby 😘.
/r/seduction08/06/19 08:07 PM
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Couldn’t got to bars when I was 20. Would crash college parties pretty frequently and nobody would ever bat an eyelash.
/r/seduction08/06/19 08:05 PM
1

Iced tea is good! The first four reasons are pretty weak.
/r/seduction08/06/19 08:03 PM
1

Nothing wrong with studies. I would say this is a valid excuse. Having no friends is not. I’ve made so many male and female friends from going out solo.
/r/seduction08/06/19 08:02 PM
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It’s worth it. Grab the audio version for like 14 bucks if that is more your cup of tea.
/r/seduction08/06/19 01:19 AM
1

Getting ready to go see a friends show myself.
/r/seduction08/06/19 01:19 AM
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Go solo and make some friends. If you really aren’t feeling like going through a whole routine just practice openers and move on. Who knows you may get someone that doesn’t want you to move away so quickly. Last time I went out solo I got a date on my first approach. Anything is possible if your heart is true!
/r/seduction07/06/19 10:24 PM
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Go solo! No money to get into the club? Chat up people waiting in line as you walk by. You know they are bored/excited. Go to a bar and ask if they have any deals for the DD. Many places will actually offer free sodas for a DD. Gives you something to sip on and keep a hand from fidgeting.
/r/seduction07/06/19 10:22 PM
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Oh, lol no. But I can see the resemblance. My name actually makes sense :P.
/r/seduction07/06/19 10:07 PM
1

Then give it a shot. You could also be dealing with a genuine demisexual. They are fucking great for relationships if you can pull it off but they have a very narrow window of opportunity that could be weeks/months/years after meeting them.
/r/seduction07/06/19 10:03 PM
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Skip the direct links. This post is actually getting you upvotes and props from a salty old jackass such as myself. That should tell you something ;).
/r/seduction07/06/19 10:01 PM
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If it’s opiates or any harder chemicals I suggest treatment. That will not help your game in the short or long term. Otherwise : Ask your dealer where the party is!
/r/seduction07/06/19 09:59 PM
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Sounds like a friend zone but you wont know until you try. If you are in the friend zone making a move earlier and not later won’t actually put to much stress on the friendship as long as you aren’t a dick about the rejection.
/r/seduction07/06/19 09:57 PM
1

Don’t you get tired of asking this question over and over? Don’t you get tired of making new accounts?
/r/seduction07/06/19 09:48 PM
1

You are completely and utterly overly invested in this one person without any reason to be for so long that you’ve forgotten what healthy affection is.
/r/seduction07/06/19 09:34 PM
1

Because you post this crap every week multiple times across multiple subs. You consume other peoples time and bandwidth.
/r/seduction07/06/19 09:31 PM
1

You desire to improve this relation is being needy. You attempts to grasp at whatever thread you can is being needy. Your fundamental approach to this person is needy and insincere. You aren’t being fair to yourself or her.
/r/seduction07/06/19 09:24 PM
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Then have at it. How much more of your life do you want to spend letting a fantasy consume your other relationships? Half of a decade is too long. Still thinking there is a chance is self destructive and toxic. Even if she reciprocates because the stars are aligned you’ve built up such a massive and unhealthy idea of what this person is that you’ll either ignore horrible incompatibilities to become totally dependent or you’ll hold to her an unattainable standard. Neither of your best case scenar…
/r/seduction07/06/19 09:21 PM
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No, if you don’t want to learn how to handle and be comfortable with rejection then you are in the wrong sub. You may have better luck over in r/dating. Most people here will tell you to move on... me included. A strong component of being able to move on is getting rejected. It’s been five years and you haven’t respected her enough to make a move.
/r/seduction07/06/19 09:12 PM
1

Again? Really? You need therapy. You look like a cannibal. Oh, I’m sorry did you want validation? You look like a well fed cannibal. There, positivity.
/r/seduction07/06/19 09:00 PM
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^ More of this ^
/r/seduction07/06/19 08:59 PM
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I’ll happily upvote. Can’t stand it when you guys just post a link to a youtube video but this is solid and shows respect for the community.
/r/seduction07/06/19 08:57 PM
1

You would have done better with more open ended questions. You did 80% of the talking. Most of what you asked her or talked about could be replied with 1-3 words. She gave you plenty of hooks for deeper conversation but it seems like you were worrying to much about what to say next. Your tonality was good. nice voice. Try standing up straighter. Bring more energy to the set. Overall not bad. Seems like you could have comfortably closed for a date/number. As much as I hate insta for messaging I w…
/r/seduction07/06/19 08:55 PM
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It may be a cliche but it sounds like you need to read Models. :P Dial it back down. This doesn’t have to be about making as many approaches as humanly possible. If you read 20 books in one week how much of each of those books would you really retain and learn from?
/r/seduction07/06/19 08:42 PM
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Don’t follow them on social media. Sounds like pretty severe oneitis. How can you say you are really into her when you haven’t had the guts to approach her? Crushes are pretty much by definition you masking their flaws and putting them on a pedestal. Sure it’s fun to fantasize but if you wait to long to take action you can pretty much throw it out the window. Make a move. Get rejected and then move on. You won’t have any more illusions on wether or not something could be.
/r/seduction07/06/19 08:41 PM
3

Dating apps do nothing to convey 90% of what makes a decent PUA or a decent person decent. Online dating is just another excuse to avoid going into the field.
/r/seduction07/06/19 08:12 PM
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Speak from your chest. Practicing dancing and exercise to become more aware of your body. Slow. Your. Talking. Down. Think about the words you are saying and don’t just try to get the information out of your head and through your mouth. Keep your hands out of your pockets and not nailed to your side. Don’t hold drinks in front of you. Take up space when sitting or even standing. Stand up straight. This will help you project your voice and speak clearly as well. And it will make you taller. Pract…
/r/seduction07/06/19 07:55 PM
1

Strike while the iron is hot. Many men have for more attraction for women then they realize. The problem is that attraction fades when the man starts showing signs of uncertainty or a lack of confidence.
/r/seduction07/06/19 07:52 PM
1

Every profession you mentioned involves having a very high comfort in a specific environment. Except for the club owner many of them are also pretty poorly paid on average. They do work at it but they leak confidence from their skin. They are creative so the likely have interesting stories. Their live and jobs and lives based around their desired demographic.... that’s a LOT of work. Find the demographic you want to attract and then become a leader of it like these guys all are.
/r/seduction07/06/19 07:48 PM
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Everybody else pretty much nailed it. Most people like affection. The problem with women giving it to men is men see it as a green light to start getting over invested and trying to fuck. Having a partner gives them a different social shield to help avoid or comfortably reject this.
/r/seduction07/06/19 07:42 PM
1

Is this a humble brag? She is obviously interested in something. Only one way to find out. Ask her out.
/r/seduction07/06/19 07:36 PM
1

Fashion helps but someone checking you out and then having a neutral expression is not an IOI. If she checked you out and then smiled that would have been an IOI. If you aren’t noticing her facial expressions you aren’t paying attention to half of what she is saying.
/r/seduction07/06/19 07:35 PM
2

Are you just running for numbers? If you have three partners you are happy with then why do you want to push yourself to go out and pick up? If you aren’t happy with them then why not end it? Numbers don’t matter, only your happiness. If having three partners isn’t making you happy then how would adding more to the mix make you happy?
/r/seduction07/06/19 07:32 PM
1

Sure.
/r/seduction07/06/19 07:28 PM
2

Yup.
/r/seduction07/06/19 05:59 PM
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Yup. With this context even if she can’t actually make it then you have set yourself up someone that values their time and wont just sit in the wings like a friend. If she turns you down a simple “Np maybe I’ll see you around in a few months.” Will really drive this home.
/r/seduction07/06/19 05:47 PM
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Can’t hurt. It already sounds like she is prepping to flake. I would just message her now. If she likes you at all she’ll make the time for you if she is feeling up to it. She could also be wanting to flake because she’ll be SOL if she becomes emotionally invested in you and you are gone. You know her better than me ;).
/r/seduction07/06/19 05:36 PM
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Enjoy your reddit ban.
/r/seduction07/06/19 05:31 PM
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ooooh classic. DO NOT RESPOND. Wether or not she knows it she is testing how you handle being flaked on.... or she is actually not feeling good. Best bet is to not respond. Don’t be like “oooooh i hope you feel better! Let me know when you can hang out.” Even if she bails on you... do not respond. Or head her off at the pass and say you can’t make it tonight. things are getting pretty hectic. Then message her at around 7:00 and say you got a little time to kill. Yeah, it’s a little game.
/r/seduction07/06/19 04:36 PM
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Doesn’t need to be a gym. A man with strong objectivity and self reflection that makes 3 approaches in a week will get more out of it than a guy that shotguns 30 or too many to properly learn from. Keep it fun for yourself. Stick to women you actually want to meet and learn more about.
/r/seduction07/06/19 02:11 AM
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Don’t go out anywhere too expensive. Don’t over invest on date 1 or ever. Keep it balanced. Good luck!
/r/seduction07/06/19 02:07 AM
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Did you read Models? Chances are you don’t need another program. You’ll need practice and really come to terms with how much you want to use desperation to fuel you or the enjoyment of talking to and interacting with women. Even with just basic inner game of practicing non-neediness and putting it into practice you’ll have more success then trying to apply any program you’ve been sold by a guy/company that really just want’s you to buy more programs. Go out right now.... just practice saying “hi…
/r/seduction07/06/19 01:59 AM
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Get out in the field! Seriously, online dating isn’t the most conducive environment to convey your confidence and personality. You also won’t be able to get a good ping on who someone really is online. Job, physical looks and the such can get your foot in the door online but they aren’t going to do the same for you in person. Doing better with people in person will help you when you choose to try to do online dating. No matter what you are going to be “shit tested” women do this out of necessity…
/r/seduction07/06/19 01:52 AM
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annnnnnd reported.
/r/seduction07/06/19 12:26 AM
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Feel free to PM me if you need some help navigating a scenario. But, don’t get into the trap of trying to collect information as a way of getting out of putting what you do know into practice.
/r/seduction07/06/19 12:24 AM
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I can’t stand online dating. It’s like I’m putting 80% of my ability to socialize and build rapport on the shelf. Models is pretty much the best book for inner game IMHO. It summarizes why so much of the earlier PUA material works without needing to get into the nitty gritty of “step1: approach with bla bla bla...DHV story... kino escalate at this point.” I took me years to figure out what models espouses and can teach you in a week. Great for a refresher for me since I took pretty bad fucking n…
/r/seduction07/06/19 12:22 AM
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There you go :P. They are usually dominated by women. Even if you arent interested in them they will probably have friends in your demographic.
/r/seduction07/06/19 12:11 AM
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Nothing wrong with taking time off to get your shit together. What is OLD? It can be very hard to relearn things after addiction. Head back to basics. Re-read the more inner game material such as Models or 3% Man. Act as though you are at square one again. Practice approaches... get that down try to carry the conversation... then try to #close... then escalate to kiss closing and f-closing.... dates ect. Break stuff up into bite sized chunks that you can build off. Don’t try to go out and do it …
/r/seduction06/06/19 11:56 PM
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How many book clubs are you apart of?
/r/seduction06/06/19 11:51 PM
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Read it again. Mark addresses all of this far better than I can with a few paragraphs on reddit.
/r/seduction06/06/19 11:49 PM
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Keep your intentions honest. If you are a virgin just worry about one for now lol. Poly relationships or getting into hookups doesn’t make the emotional side any easier. If you come off as sleezy or creepy at all you will blow you chances for the summer. Word will get around fast. But, if you come off as sexy and confident and totally not needy/looking for a relationship (ie: safe bet for a hookup) then that will also get around fast. Any “game” you are going to run on an average looking girl is…
/r/seduction06/06/19 11:48 PM
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“Hi.” Is literally the best pick up line. “What’s your name?” Is the best follow up. Can work in any situation/context as long as you don’t say it like the snake from the cartoon version of Robin Hood.
/r/seduction06/06/19 11:38 PM
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I do pretty horrible dating sites(average looks, slightly shorter than average, little over weight, broad shoulders which make me look much larger than I am in photos) but I also don’t really try because no matter what it’s not going to be a strong representation of me or convey my presence with body language and movement . Have very few issues in person. Friend of mine is three times my weight. Very very large man. He is currently dating a model and is married to a stripper. No, he is not anywh…
/r/seduction06/06/19 11:35 PM
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Going for other counselors is probably fine and almost expected. Obviously don’t touch the campers lol. Just stay confident and non-needy. You’ll probably have time with the other counselors after lights out. Try approaching it like you’re all basically on a really long blind date.
/r/seduction06/06/19 11:29 PM
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You would be surprised how quickly they are up to meeting you as long as you suggest a very public place. Open ended questions help with the rapport aspect if you feel like you need it.
/r/seduction06/06/19 11:24 PM
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If it’s temp or a place with a high turn around you could try it. That will be up to your judgment. If you string it along too long you will be well within the friend zone. Guess you could make your move sooner rather than later. Try coffee or invite her out to bowling or some other activity where you can talk a lot. At one point I went from “So, do you have a boyfriend?” To “Great, lets get out of here. :P”. Keep it cheeky.
/r/seduction06/06/19 11:16 PM
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Just leave texts for making plans. Problem solved 😁. “Great I’ll see you at 8:00.” is the ideal ending to any text.
/r/seduction06/06/19 11:12 PM
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Don’t even need to keep in touch. Anything you want to talk about on text just pack it away and use it for conversation ammo on the date. This will also help you fight the temptation to keep asking “We still on?”
/r/seduction06/06/19 10:59 PM
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You could pursue but I would recommend against workplace dating unless you know the person REALLY well and things wont be awkward if you guys date and break up. If she does have a boyfriend a lot of this behavior could be very amicable. If she is trying to date you I would still keep her in the friend zone if she has a boyfriend and not try to date her even when she does become single. Someone willing to cheat with you will cheat on you... and do you really want to be that guy and have to deal w…
/r/seduction06/06/19 10:58 PM
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Haha. Thus sub is for men and women. And, my penis would be to differ. Why don’t you get off and head over to TRP? You don’t like women so maybe you’ll find more comfort for your weak ego over there? We’re all getting pretty tired of your insecure, zero value posts. A real man doesn’t blame his parents or other people for his issues. That’s incel talk.
/r/seduction06/06/19 10:55 PM
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No.
/r/seduction06/06/19 10:43 PM
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Hello everyone! This is a troll. Feed it at your own risk.
/r/seduction06/06/19 10:42 PM
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Don’t bother. This guy is a troll.
/r/seduction06/06/19 10:41 PM
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Read Models. Non-neediness is the foundation of modern inner game
/r/seduction06/06/19 10:41 PM
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Soloing is fine. Nothing strange about a single guy chilling at a bar after a stressful day at work. I’m pretty lucky. Most of my friends have zero interest in just settling down and raising kids. We are all also part of a pretty strong poly community so even when we are “taken” we can still go out and wing with each other or just provide some social proof; men and women. Nothing wrong with having one of your mono friends hang out and wing for you even if back home they have a family. You aren’t…
/r/seduction06/06/19 10:39 PM
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Not sure about Atlanta but a lot of frat guys have confidence through the roof. You can look completely funky and fat but still have some really amazing dates.
/r/seduction06/06/19 10:06 PM
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Once you are no longer a client I don’t see an ethical issue in this. Have at it.
/r/seduction06/06/19 10:02 PM
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Naw, it’s not. It aint easy but it’s very doable. Wouldn’t recommend it for most though. At one point I un-friend-zoned a majority of my female friends and I had and continue to have loooots of female friends.
/r/seduction06/06/19 09:55 PM
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Close when you are ready to close and change venue. If you are sticking around and they are too why not try to escalate off that into a kiss or more?
/r/seduction06/06/19 09:52 PM
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How long are you making out with them before trying to push it forward? Women need to preheat a lot longer before men. Be sure you aren’t sucking too much face or covering them in slobber. Try holding their head and kissing under their jaw and down to the neck. Nibble very lightly but take it SLOW and gentle. A little light hair pulling is always a bonus. Treat her like she is the best and sexiest woman you’ve ever been with.
/r/seduction06/06/19 09:37 PM
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I’m 34. No signs of slowing down. My last significant other was 20. You are a long way off from your prime. Hell, I’ve wager with the right attitude and body of knowledge paired with taking care of yourself you could still get consistent results into your 50s or later.
/r/seduction06/06/19 09:30 PM
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I appreciate the effort you put into this post. While I don’t agree with you PUA definitely isn’t for everyone. It seems like you fell into some traps when you underwent the adventure. There is a lot of junk out there but this is the importance of having a strong inner game so you can wade through it and grab the pieces you need without compromising your ethics or empathy for others.
/r/seduction06/06/19 09:28 PM
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Being objective is your friend. If you are getting clear signs of interest in the future and she is single then it doesn’t hurt to try. If she has a boyfriend she could just be looking for validation. Single or taken people like to flirt. It’s fun and makes us feel wanted. When taken it’s usually just for validation.
/r/seduction06/06/19 07:21 PM
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Cut out the porn and see if that makes a difference. For some people porn addiction is a response to other insecurities. Next time try focusing on her body and how attracted you are to her and not wether or not you will be able to last long or keep it hard. Don’t be afraid to take is slow. Get to know her better. Keep foreplay going until you feel like your dick is about to fall off. If you just aren’t into it at the moment it’s fine to pull off. Just be honest but don’t start talking about dead…
/r/seduction06/06/19 06:53 PM
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You may need to slow play it. Sound like the kind of guy that comes here for advice. he is probably going to have trouble approaching you and doesn’t know how to reciprocate your directness with his own direct action. I doubt you will scare him away with too much texting. Insecure guys love to text. keeps the safe while getting to know someone. Friend zoning him may actually help your case. “I really like you but can we be friends first?” Will be music to any guy’s ears if he is attracted to you…
/r/seduction06/06/19 06:49 PM
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What can you tell us about this guy’s personality? Do you know his past experience level at all?
/r/seduction06/06/19 06:10 PM
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Yes, rejection is fine and more often than not people simply aren’t compatible. I may never finish painting a masterpiece but I can try until I do and learn from my mistakes.
/r/seduction06/06/19 05:30 PM
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My PMs beg to differ. I could help you too. I’m done trying to inflame you. If you want actual help and are open to I would be happy to. You are probably a decent person IRL. I hope harassing people on reddit helps you deal with whatever real life difficulties you have.
/r/seduction06/06/19 05:28 PM
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So how much of that goes to the original creators?
/r/seduction05/06/19 10:54 PM
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You still need to internalize information and understand it in multiple contexts. The old stuff does work. It works quite well but the more modern approach to PUA distill down WHY the older stuff worked. And that comes down to inner game. I can tell you how to operate a car in about 3 paragraphs but that doesn’t actually you how to drive it. What to feel and the practice involved in navigating issues that will come up. That’s why I like new and old folks alike to read Models. It’s a great manual…
/r/seduction05/06/19 10:52 PM
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Fuckit. Just smoke in front of the bar. Vapes are wonderful things.... Now where did I put my vape...
/r/seduction05/06/19 09:55 PM
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Sure. But just ask “still down for 8:00?”
/r/seduction05/06/19 09:27 PM
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I juggle beavers.
/r/seduction05/06/19 09:18 PM
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If she doesn’t reply then she isn’t interested. Also, try to use complete words. If you want to set yourself apart from other guys then don’t talk like other guys.
/r/seduction05/06/19 09:16 PM
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Sending a couple texts to setup plans isn’t needy. Trying to have a huge conversation or asking her “hey you there? Did you get my last text?” Is needy.
/r/seduction05/06/19 09:14 PM
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They are hoping to have another sub that puts up with their shit an agrees with them. They think we are all narcissists that have some magic voodoo that will help them manipulate women into sleeping with them.
/r/seduction05/06/19 09:13 PM
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When you know what time you would like to meet. Be direct.
/r/seduction05/06/19 08:49 PM
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Ask them what they are doing after... but, I would advise you not to. If only because you are sober and they are not. if someone is visibly intoxicated and you wouldn’t sell them a drink with the liquor board looking over you shoulder then you shouldn’t pick them up either. Working in service I won’t date coworkers and I wont date customers. Wait till your shift is over or go back when you aren’t working.
/r/seduction05/06/19 08:40 PM
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Never go for the cheek. Go for the lips but don’t lunge at her. Give her time to turn you down. If she doesn’t want to kiss you she’ll say so or turn her cheek to you. Message her. Don’t apologize. Just give a time and date for get together next week. The move on. If she is interested she will get back to you if not then you can already be working on dating someone else which will make the rejection easier.
/r/seduction05/06/19 08:36 PM
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FOMO is just another facet of neediness. Either be direct or move on. If you try and she rejects you then at least you’ll never be a 40 year old depressed dad looking back what could have been.
/r/seduction05/06/19 08:32 PM
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Honestly I’ve never heard of this guy and think most YouTube infields are laughable. But, it’s not impossible. I’ve done 5 f closes in 2.5-3 days. Still good friends with all of them and that was like 15 years ago. I could do 25 kiss closes in a weekend pretty comfortably if I was motivated and there was a major event going on(i like in a very small city). You don’t need hours to play the game. Hell if I’m just running for number(which i’ve grown out of) that’s 10 approaches and a conservative 2…
/r/seduction05/06/19 08:26 PM
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“Read and internalize.”
/r/seduction05/06/19 08:06 PM
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If this was a question I was about to roll into here and just say “read models” as I do lol.
/r/seduction05/06/19 08:02 PM
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If someone is falling back to borderline rape that is getting a woman drunk to increase your chances then they need to go back to PUA school.
/r/seduction05/06/19 07:44 PM
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In what context? Women and men are not polar opposites.
/r/seduction05/06/19 07:40 PM
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Stop looking to your friends social media. hell, when people start bragging about all the cool shit they are doing or are going to do chances are they are feeling the same way you are feeling. They are saying “help i feel really uninteresting please positively validate me!” Don’t worry about it. You are probably more interesting then you think you are. If not, go out and get lost. Get new friends. Explore new places. When people get out of their comfort zone usually an interesting story will fol…
/r/seduction05/06/19 07:39 PM
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Not that many. but they come out of the woodwork when someone throws them bait... I’m sorry I missed getting into this one earlier. I love tearing down an incel.
/r/seduction05/06/19 07:30 PM
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Not that likely. Friends arent going to fuck each other with you just because you have a fantasy. But you can try if you want. And you may get lucky with two bi girls on a date that wan’t a plaything. They are going to carve you up and draw straws if they both like you. If you aren’t completely confident and comfortable with yourself in the bedroom then don’t even try. Never mind the after logistics. If you need to ask if a two-set can be pulled into a threesome then I would wager you aren’t rea…
/r/seduction05/06/19 07:24 PM
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You are coming off as creepy and insecure because your intentions are not meshing with your actions. If she doesn’t want to sleep with you and you come back with something deeply personal you are coming off as needy because from her POV it looks like you are trying to get a sympathy fuck to make up for your previous lack of confidence. When you escalate too slow you are wasting your time AND hers. Read Models.
/r/seduction05/06/19 07:14 PM
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Doesn’t matter. If she cheats on him she’ll cheat on you.
/r/seduction04/06/19 06:56 PM
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Is it wrong for a girl to have sex with a guy she doesn’t care about, knowing he will get emotionally over invested in her? Yes? There is your answer. No? Then you are probably in the wrong sub.
/r/seduction04/06/19 06:53 PM
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Nope. Testosterone wont give you a big boner. it may effect your desire for it but that evidence is lacking... ex: women want just as much sex as men and usually more. Testosterone is powerful but it’s not the answer to all things “manly.” That’s just fucking marketing.
/r/seduction04/06/19 06:48 PM
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Stop playing for numbers. Open up to her. Get out of your head. Focus on what you see , taste, and feel and not just thinking about your next action. Focus on what you like and vocalize it. Just focusing on her isn’t going to get either of you off half as much as both people dancing together,
/r/seduction04/06/19 06:46 PM
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While the big bull moose are fighting the lady moose is in the bushes with older one that’s really good at whispering in her ear.
/r/seduction04/06/19 06:41 PM
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Light bondage and flogging. . . . Oooooh.. I think we go for different demographics.
/r/seduction04/06/19 06:37 PM
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Sooooo. Doesn’t anybody miss the days when informercial were just on tv?
/r/seduction04/06/19 06:34 PM
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How do you handle them? If your game is better than their game then you know to nope the fuck out of there. How can we complain about women running game when men are here trying to learn how to do it too? Why is it somehow more evil for a specific woman to want a few free drinks or a party to go to then for a man to trying to put a woman’s entire life at risk to get his dick wet for a night? The only things these men are putting at risk or maybe the cash(which is their fault) and their egos(agai…
/r/seduction04/06/19 06:33 PM
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It’s not about it being natural. Our culture socialized women for dating at a much earlier age than men. This isn’t favoritism this is out of necessity. Very few men risk rape or assault for going home with someone they don’t know well of the opposite sex. Women playing games isn’t “evil” it’s a protection from it. Women face very real physical and mental harm if they make the wrong choice. Do they never leave the house or do they socially develop with their friends and their “games” a sorta of …
/r/seduction04/06/19 06:25 PM
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Hahahaha. If you know so much about women then why are you asking 😂😂🤣.
/r/seduction02/06/19 07:17 PM
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Do you know what women do for porn? There is your answer for your body image issues.
/r/seduction02/06/19 06:21 PM
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I don’t have time for that. If you are really interested you should go pick up a trashy romance novel at the super market. Sure they’ll write about his glistening pecs but that is only a small fraction of what draws women into those stories.
/r/seduction02/06/19 05:37 PM
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Sounds a lot like my experience when I started. Fun aint it? I’m still amazed when people interested in PUA or seduction get downright hostile when I tell them to not bother with online dating. Why wait for a response or match when you can literally say hi just about as fast as it takes you to read someone’s bio and swipe right? Keep going. You are on the right track. Just don’t get too focused on getting numbers. Now that you are comfortable with that try to setup a date right there on the spot…
/r/seduction02/06/19 04:44 PM
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You need to remember the interaction so you can play it back in your head. Cross reference with what you know about the motivations behind people’s and specifically women’s actions. Approach with empathy and leave with empathy. Being aware of your own body language as well. When you are aware of how you are standing/moving/touching you will become better and be able to think back to “How was I standing when I was talking about X?” Congrats. You shouldn’t have been talking about X she should have…
/r/seduction02/06/19 03:58 PM
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You don’t have to. Just because it’s been smashed into our egos since we were teenagers doesn’t mean it’s necessary. If hookups arent your thing then don’t worry about it. Being demisexual is perfectly valid.
/r/seduction01/06/19 10:46 PM
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Craigslist? Yeeeeeaaars ago on alt.seduction.fast we had a mini facebook where people could search wings by city and state. Good times.
/r/seduction01/06/19 09:50 PM
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And I’m drunk at a bar with a 5 set and I got all of their number and we are about to go to my place. Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth.
/r/seduction01/06/19 04:55 AM
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This guy is a troll. Or he gets off on people telling him he looks fine. He’s been doing this for weeks over countless subs.
/r/seduction01/06/19 02:11 AM
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I love you. 😘❤️💕
/r/seduction01/06/19 01:07 AM
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My advice is for you to get therapy. You’ve presented no evidence to suggest you are a stable person. I’m not insulting you, I’m being honest.
/r/seduction01/06/19 12:52 AM
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We aren’t stupid. Did you meet her on a language app as well? Did she insult your income? Maybe she asked you about cartoons because you act like a child?
/r/seduction01/06/19 12:40 AM
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Are you threatening a human?
/r/seduction01/06/19 12:38 AM
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You need therapy. How many times have you posted this crap in the past few weeks?
/r/seduction01/06/19 12:36 AM
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No, you need to read the rules. People have given you advice before and all you can do is insult them. You are a troll or you need therapy. Nothing wrong with therapy. People have given you considerable amounts of time which you have wasted. If all you want is a flame war I would be happy to oblige.
/r/seduction01/06/19 12:32 AM
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And you’ll get responses equal to the quality of your posts.
/r/seduction01/06/19 12:11 AM
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Are you comfortable in your virginity? Edit: I know we arent supposed to make personal attacks... but this guys accounts are pretty laughable.
/r/seduction01/06/19 12:06 AM
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If you are trying to attract women that like guns than have at it. If not... then realize many people dislike guns.
/r/seduction01/06/19 12:05 AM
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Yeah, It’s not like he is even doing a good job of riling people up. Just wasting the time of people that genuinely want to help others.
/r/seduction31/05/19 10:59 PM
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Good effort but this guy is a full time troll.
/r/seduction31/05/19 10:47 PM
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This guy is a troll or has mental issues.
/r/seduction31/05/19 10:43 PM
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My best advice is to try a different sub. Hell. Try r/askwomen if you are super insecure about your junk.
/r/seduction31/05/19 10:39 PM
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I didn’t. I got my shit together but lost out on about 5 years of potential relationships dealing with some very heavy shit. I could have still gone out and fucked my way across town but it wouldn’t have been fair to my partners... or me. Don’t pursue relationships when you know full well you aren’t capable of handling them. That’s just another layer of stress that is going to make self improvement and getting healthy more difficult. Just because society is telling us that we need to be getting …
/r/seduction31/05/19 10:13 PM
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Suck his earlobe. ... pretty much just suck on anything lol. sit next to him on the sofa and start flicking your bean while looking at him. Don’t forget dirty talk! Start with a friendly hug. Make it more romantic. Start breathing heavily into his ear and then beg for whatever you want him to do to you. If he is more submissive then tie him to a chair and give him a lap dance.... but just hoover before making contact with his junk. Six point Florentine flogging? Yes, I’m biased but when in doubt…
/r/seduction31/05/19 09:46 PM
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Don’t drink. :/. What are you trying to get? This is quite a bit too broad of a question.
/r/seduction31/05/19 09:42 PM
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How rural? Like less than 10k? Air BNB to the city for the weekends. Work during the week. Or start writing down your rejections and figure out what you did wrong and right during the school year. Pick up a new hobby. Focus on the more self-help style crap. Meditate. You’ve got 3 months to kill. You can get an aptitude in just about anything with 3 months of dedication.
/r/seduction31/05/19 09:41 PM
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GOOD FOR YOU! Give it a couple weeks of no contact. Then get a group of friends together and invite her along. Literally treat her like a friend and not an ex-anything.
/r/seduction31/05/19 09:34 PM
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Never kept track. No point. You are going to get rejected even if everyone else perceives you as a player. You could go out every night for a week and only make 10 approaches with 10 rejections... but if you learn more from those rejections than the guy the gets rejected and immediately reproaches; you could be years ahead of him in terms of valuable learning experience.
/r/seduction31/05/19 09:29 PM
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Personal grooming is a carry over from primate days. This is where you get your scratches, playing with hair/circular motions in general ect. A lot of these can be extremely subconscious. Good observation. It takes some men years to pick up on how important this stuff is.
/r/seduction31/05/19 09:18 PM
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Sounds like you don’t have much to worry about. Just keep flowing with it organically. I think it’s far more likely that they are insecure themselves. There is a lot of reverse racism with the stereotype of Latin men being players(blame movies and Don Juan). If you think there is a chance of this idea existing for her and she is shy then take it slow.... or play into it. Escalate to dirty talk sooner rather than later.
/r/seduction31/05/19 08:57 PM
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Personal attack against my mom! Shit, now I’ve got to reassess my mental state for the day. You’ve wounded me deeply. 😢
/r/seduction31/05/19 08:47 PM
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Like... I want to report him but I’m having too much fun :P.
/r/seduction31/05/19 08:38 PM
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Hahahahahaha. Okay kid. You wanted validation. I didn’t give it to you. Your ego is now lashing out. Don’t come to a sub that is for having a discussion if you can’t handle people’s opinions that are contrary to your own and backed up with decades of experience.☺️😘🥰😘
/r/seduction31/05/19 08:07 PM
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Seriously. This is some cringe ass shit. Even if I knew a script that had 100% success rate I wouldn’t sell it to him for a million dollars.
/r/seduction31/05/19 07:51 PM
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Dude. Because you are prone to calling women that reject you “dumb slut.” Why the hell would want to hang out with you? that shit gets out and obliterates your social proof. Non-needy men don’t particularly give a shit. Everything about you is needy and entitled. Trying to blame women for you not being able to handle rejection... that’s some beta shit right there. When you blame others you can’t improve yourself.
/r/seduction31/05/19 07:49 PM
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Hey! I’m not boring! But i did become a programmer AFTER being a PUA 🤫.
/r/seduction31/05/19 07:44 PM
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If she is basic then why bother? Some people do have initial racial preferences but they arent hard laws they follow. People are people and skin is just skin. Once we know a little bit about eachother and have a dialogue race tends to fly out the window as a qualifier or disqualified.
/r/seduction31/05/19 07:41 PM
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Screw Tinder. you don’t need to spend money to go out. You DO need to spend energy and emotions to learn anything.... but you don’t need to over invest yourself. If you are sitting at home and don’t want to have a date then don’t. Nothing wrong with hanging around. If you really want to spend time with women then it shouldn’t EVER feel like a job. You may need to re-assess what you really want right now.
/r/seduction31/05/19 07:34 PM
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You don’t act ;). Smile at every person that passes by or comes into the room. Even if you are in pain. The amount of entitled assholes hospital staff have to deal with would blow your mind. Imagine have to clean the shit off a cranky old ladies ass then run into a charming guy that is all smiles and genuinely interested in their day?
/r/seduction31/05/19 07:27 PM
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Some people are leaders. Most people want leadership. An honest and confident leader can change history and inspire an entire civilization for the better... or worse.
/r/seduction31/05/19 07:25 PM
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Read Models. A lot of people give up because they feel they’ve read all that RSD shite and “Bang”. And find their results spotty. They have an unstable inner game and thusly almost no foundation. They may have some success but can’t fully grasp why or how something worked. They lack self reflection and objectivity. They get tired of being prayed upon by guys trying to make cash off them and sell them program after program. Pretending to be an arrogant narcissist is not the same as being a confid…
/r/seduction31/05/19 07:22 PM
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Yes, but it doesn’t matter. You are still twisting your mind and over-investing before you actually know them.
/r/seduction31/05/19 07:14 PM
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Worrying about her not being available and trying to keep it open to when SHE is available makes you needy and takes away your projection confidence.. that is all. If she is into you she will make the time or offer an alternative without being prompted. If she isn’t available you say “okay maybe some other time. Bye”
/r/seduction31/05/19 06:55 PM
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Next.
/r/seduction31/05/19 06:45 PM
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What directions did you ask her for? When ever you say Thank you or agree with someone you are effectively putting an end to the current subject of conversation. Next time, don’t be cute about it. The best opening pickup line is “Hi.” The best follow up to the is “What’s your name?” Or similar. You didn’t fail. You learned that you have the ability to talk to women. It’s literally not impossible or the end of the world if you get rejected or passed on. You lived to post this didn’t you?
/r/seduction31/05/19 06:43 PM
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Read the side bar..... sigh. In the future try to read the rules of a sub before posting.
/r/seduction31/05/19 06:34 PM
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$30 a year maybe? lol. Swing by the perfume counter at a department store before going out. First ask them if they work for commission. If no then tell them you are looking for something for your girlfriend. Ask the woman what her favorite is under say.. 10 bucks. Sample it then leave and you can even ask women what they think for a cold open. Get good responses then grab yourself a bottle.
/r/seduction31/05/19 06:33 PM
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Umm.. you don’t. If you are willing to spend money on her to probably not get laid then why not just get an escort for a fraction of the cost? To be faaaaiiiiir.... she sounds and looks like a dreadful person to spend time with.
/r/seduction31/05/19 06:25 PM
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I’m also a very shy person naturally. Don’t try to do too many things at the same time. Get used to meeting new people in general before even worrying about dating. If you are struggling to carry two bags of groceries then don’t try to carry five. Get used to the group first then worry about talking to women.
/r/seduction31/05/19 06:20 PM
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You don’t have to go out every night. But, giving yourself a month off is bullshit and you know it 😜. The point of PUA and “game” is about being able to maximize and take advantage of oppertunities in which you can meet women you are compatable with and will greatly enjoy your time with. The problem with that thinking is it’s very easy to say “Oh, I don’t need to go out or talk to women this month because I’m learning!” Is that every day becomes tomorrow... end of the month rolls around and the …
/r/seduction31/05/19 06:14 PM
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Interested to know if she has moved on. All of my experience with Russian girls has taught me to be VERY direct with them. Invite her out immediately. Times ticking.
/r/seduction31/05/19 05:21 PM
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Just getting done for the night from going out solo. Been doing this for years and sometimes ya just don’t feel Like going out..... But, first approach: Got a date for next week. Have a different lady coming over in bit. Driving another back to my place as well. It was either that or get drunk and play Overwatch 🧐.... was really close to staying home after work.
/r/seduction31/05/19 05:45 AM
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If you are feeling bad from not pulling a girl then you are demonstrating a pretty high level of insecurity. Go out, have fun, enjoy the experience and learn from the results. Positive or negative. Cold approaching at a bar is very much a different beast from the warm approaches you’ve been fortunate enough to have through tinder and social circles. If you walk up to a girl and ask for her name first and she offers it up then asks for yours you’ve effectively turned a cold approach warm. From th…
/r/seduction31/05/19 05:36 AM
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Sounds like there was definitely interest. I think you had many openings and you just failed to go for it. Even when grinding you can whisper into their ear and tell them you want to learn more about them. Take their hand and see if you can lead them away to a place slightly less loud.
/r/seduction31/05/19 01:54 AM
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No problem :D.
/r/seduction31/05/19 01:51 AM
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I can’t even read this. Punctuation and formatting please. If you can say the same thing with 5 words instead of 50 then use 5.
/r/seduction31/05/19 01:06 AM
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If you want to seduce one of those jocks you are in the right place... otherwise prolly should try a different sub.
/r/seduction31/05/19 12:52 AM
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1 or 5 probably. The rest of them are what a teenager would do and I’m an adult. If your phone was busted and you were trying to game then at least get yourself a little black book and carry around a pen.
/r/seduction31/05/19 12:45 AM
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You can actually be extremely direct as long as you aren’t grabbing at them and ignoring signs they are uncomfortable. And yes, escalating to erotic language quickly is perfectly valid if you confident and have been keeping her smiling or your and her body language is on point. People give some very subtle IOIs that you can learn elsewhere. To pull this off you cannot have booze on your breath at all because you are going to need to get very close to he so other people don’t know the crazy shit …
/r/seduction31/05/19 12:29 AM
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As long as you are honest with people then there is nothing to worry about if you get a “reputation.” This is where more classical Ross Jefferies style PUA loses ground fast. In such a heavily connected and gossipy world you cannot afford to be seen as someone using tricks. Be honest.
/r/seduction31/05/19 12:02 AM
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There is no more moment to make or wait for. That passed after the first 5 seconds you both interacted with each other. Graduation is a super stressful and exciting time for people.. chances are hooking up with a guy that had years to ask her out but didn’t isn’t high on the priority list.
/r/seduction30/05/19 11:59 PM
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I don’t have time to explain respect and truthful intention to you lol .
/r/seduction30/05/19 11:27 PM
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It’s not a trick and it’s not just women lol. Men will do the exact same thing although with about 1/8 the friendly competition and 5 times the chest puffing. People compete for the attention of charismatic and high value people regardless of sex. It’s not very productive to go out of your way to do but it will happen if you demonstrate high social value. If one is interested in you and you are attracted to her then why wait for the club? Get to know her better. It will give you more social proo…
/r/seduction30/05/19 10:18 PM
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Get him out of the set early by helping him run off with another girl asap. :P. Or just open up to him about it. Wingmen should play off each other not against each other.
/r/seduction30/05/19 10:09 PM
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Message them sooner rather than later to try to make plans. Don’t get cute. if she was interested then she’ll still be interested. if not she was just being really nice about rejecting you. If she isn’t interested then waiting three days or any text game wont suddenly make her interested.
/r/seduction30/05/19 10:06 PM
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Fucked if I know but it’s a good story and if someone calls you out on it you can just smirk and laugh, call them observant and have that lead into something else.
/r/seduction30/05/19 09:52 PM
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Prenup. Marriage is a wash. It’s legally binding neediness for a man and woman. Marriage should be done purely for taxes and legal reasons. This isn’t the Middle Ages, we don’t need to threaten legal action to keep people together that don’t want to be.
/r/seduction30/05/19 09:11 PM
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No, I delete my videos from ex partners out of respect.
/r/seduction30/05/19 09:08 PM
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Height is not an issue. Don’t bother with self deprecating humor. It shows you are going out of your way to seem confident... which isn’t exactly confident. Prepare some witty comebacks if anybody ever comments on your height instead.
/r/seduction30/05/19 09:06 PM
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Don’t bow at all. Bring their hand to your lips. Kiss your thumb. Instead of saying “M’Lady” you could then give them a cheeky tutorial on baroque French etiquette. Devil. not neckbeard.
/r/seduction30/05/19 09:01 PM
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Do it for fun but don’t try it as any sort of technique beyond breaking the ice. If you really want to play a character and meet people then get into LARPing :P. I’m not joking. There are some gorgeous women into larping and a whole fuck ton of Nice Guys without a clue.
/r/seduction30/05/19 08:59 PM
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If you’ve been talking to them with weak game or not getting a hint they may do it distract you and get the hell away.
/r/seduction30/05/19 08:56 PM
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Oh god no. You’ve just rolled in an obvious compliment about her body(no shit... she is in a running club) with one of the worst opening lines in history. Are in you the running club to get fit or meet women. Both is fine. Getting fit is fine. Joining a club just to try to meet women is not. That is needy behavior. You won’t come of as genuine. You don’t need to join the one that has the most girls. That is ridiculous. Talk to them after the run. And ask them for their name. If the ask you for y…
/r/seduction30/05/19 08:55 PM
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Understanding the amount of crap women have to deal with on a daily basis and identifying how I was contributing to it. Being confident for all people you meet is a public service.
/r/seduction30/05/19 08:49 PM
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Just dancing doesn’t mean much. We’re going to need more info. How were you escalating and maintaining the conversation?
/r/seduction30/05/19 08:47 PM
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It wasn’t out of nowhere. You didn’t escalate or make you intentions clear enough to be rejected sooner or have it turn into something more. You treated her like a friend(from her perspective) for MONTHS. Then you pulled a nice guy and went out of your way to visit her for a vacation? Harsh lesson but a potentially powerful one for you.
/r/seduction30/05/19 06:43 PM
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Lot of bad advice here... what part of your post has to do with seduction. Just sounds like you are looking for an excuse to dump her or testosterone rage out on some bros. What’s your beef with the guys? Nothing will push her away farther than becoming obsessive and overbearing. Chances are she is giving her number because it’s the easiest form of rejection a woman can perform to get a guy to move away. I know married women that are extremely faithful that will still do this. If you are going t…
/r/seduction30/05/19 06:37 PM
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Just because your commercial has some content doesn’t mean it’s not breaking the rules about no commercial adverts. Is your entire business model to just go around and repackage shit you are pulling from the ASF archives and models?
/r/seduction30/05/19 06:02 PM
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Walk away.
/r/seduction30/05/19 05:59 PM
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Oneitis... check the side bar. C’mon man. I I know you want to push your channel and get a slice of the self help pie but you know and I know that this is not new information. It’s old information and presented in a pretty run of the mill way. You are turning men off the same way men turn women off. You aren’t being clear with your intentions.
/r/seduction30/05/19 05:59 PM
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Uggg. Be direct. There folks I summarized it for you. How is this not spam?
/r/seduction30/05/19 05:56 PM
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Wow and people wonder why I downvote this shit so much. This is a commercial advertisement dressed up as dating self help. More like 10% of coaches wont tell you this. EVERY PERSON TRYING TO SELL SELF HELP KNOWS AND EXPLAINS THIS TO PEOPLE. Long term for a self help snakeoil salesman = long term sales. I’ll give you points for charisma but you know you didn’t get this idea yourself. Think about how many other people got your idea for a dating youtube/self help Chanel from that same source? 90% o…
/r/seduction30/05/19 05:54 PM
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Attend events/clubs/groups that share your values. Figure out your demographic and find out where others likes you hang out. For you it sounds like a pretentious coffee shop may be a good way to find a more down to earth and spiritual person minus the religious aspect. I’m only partially joking, honestly. Follow the guy with a hemp-rope for a dog leash. Take a right at the art gallery and keep an eye out for the yuppie drum circle. You’ll know you are getting close when the jeans are skinny and …
/r/seduction30/05/19 05:40 PM
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What about them makes you fall for them so hard? Is it just because they happen to be interested in you? If so then wrong sub. Please head over to r/dating. Otherwise: You don’t need to guard your emotions and you need to have your intentions clear. What you need to do is not over invest. You fall less hard by not over investing in them too early. you do this through inner game and not reveling in a scarcity mindset or just going out and continue to play the field. If you’ve only had a few dates…
/r/seduction30/05/19 05:32 PM
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Some may... most won’t. Plenty of celebrities have trouble meeting people. Having the ability to be selective and objective isn’t learned just because there is aparent abundance. Being able to be non-needy and know how to deal with the challenges of a relationship don’t magically pop into your head because people recognize you on the street. How many Hollywood relationship are complete shit shows? You essentially have a town of drama kids that got lucky and made it big. You know those drama kids…
/r/seduction30/05/19 05:10 PM
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Life isn’t about guarantees. It’s about improving your odds. Seduction and PUA dramatically improve your odds with many facets of life. Even RNGs have odds. If you are trying to get a random number between 80-100. Would you rather generate from 0-100 or or 60-100?
/r/seduction30/05/19 12:50 AM
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1st: Tinder is fucking stupid. Going into the field is far more entertaining. 2nd: M:“ Hey, I’ll be at <location, time>. Got to run but I wouldn’t mind getting to know you.“ H:“That was forward...I feel like I should know more about you.” M:“Refreshing, isn’t it?” Side note : I don’t “date.” Unless I’m already in a relationship with them. But they are free to come to me and hang out.
/r/seduction29/05/19 10:56 PM
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You need validation? Well, that’s why you are a virgin.
/r/seduction29/05/19 10:47 PM
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Lol. You are probably fine in terms of looks. And you are only going to get more physically attractive with age. Thinking otherwise is an story old people tell younger people when they are frustrated and have given up on trying to be attractive. Your issue is probably you’ve gotten more self conscious. Likely with people telling you there “isn’t much time left” or “these are the best years of your life... dont squander it!” both of these are false. Your teenage years and early 20s will be a shit…
/r/seduction29/05/19 10:47 PM
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I could write you a manual but The Charisma Myth is a good start. A lot of stupid men are really shitty at conversation, even with other men. That’s why most of my friends are women. You know how bored you are getting talking to men? Women are getting three times that whenever they go out to the bar. That would drive me insane. Think of being charismatic as a public service.
/r/seduction29/05/19 10:16 PM
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No. I speak from experience. Even if you do... do you really think there won’t be some HR nightmares if you end up dating and then break up? If you are mature enough to be able to keep it totally separate from work and know for a fact it won’t make for a toxic environment if things go south then sure. But at that point why not go for a relationship that will cause 1000 times less stress? Only like 1 in 5 marriages started as workplace relationships. How many countless jobs have been lost? Be fri…
/r/seduction29/05/19 10:12 PM
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Nothing wrong with eye contact if they are keeping it. There is a difference between staring and looking at someone like you want to meet them.
/r/seduction29/05/19 09:24 PM
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Maybe if they are teenagers.. So you are right. Girls will think you are weird. Adult women practically breath a sigh of relief when I tell them I don’t like using facebook. They don’t need people keeping tabs on their daily life 24/7... i don’t either.
/r/seduction29/05/19 09:08 PM
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Wow. This is just about the most needy fucking behavior you can do. Wrong sub. Go try r/braincels. Fuck off.
/r/seduction29/05/19 08:58 PM
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FUCK OFF.
/r/seduction29/05/19 08:57 PM
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Be direct. In the future don’t go on a date with a woman you’ve already disqualified for whatever reason. Something like age is pretty superficial. Should have that one figured out before talking to them. If you couldn’t tell then why the hang up?
/r/seduction29/05/19 08:49 PM
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Read Models. Check the side bar.
/r/seduction29/05/19 08:39 PM
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Have you ever done something stupid and regrettable when you are drunk? People have their guard up and inhibitions when they are sober because they serve a pretty important purpose. If you havent gotten their consent when you are sober then you don’t have consent. If your both drunk and stupid and want to make mistakes then have it. So no, even if she is telling the truth when she is drunk there is a reason shit isn’t saying the stuff when she is sober and that should be your tip off to the rati…
/r/seduction29/05/19 08:31 PM
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You don’t know what you are missing yet. Models is a strong foundation and could be all you need. Plenty to expand off and explore when you’ve put the basics into practice and know what your intentions are or the departments where you are really lacking. After all of that I would suggest taking classes on things like public speaking or social anxiety. Even taking a class at a local community college about interpersonal communication. THEN you still have plenty of free internet resources you can …
/r/seduction29/05/19 08:13 PM
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Third. If they smile after the triangle often I’ll appreciatively check out their body right in front of them then move my eyes slowly back up to theirs. Lean in and begin dirty talking into their ear with my hand on their waist. If i havent had a drink thrown in my face at this point then it’s pretty easy to pull back and start making out or kiss her on the cheek and tell her to follow me out the door depending on the location.
/r/seduction29/05/19 08:05 PM
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Yes, but that doesn’t mean buying shit for people or showing them with compliments. People will feel good in your presence if you are confident and prepared to lead, if you listen to them and can carry a conversation back to them, if you can give a definite plan and make a decision. All of those things make people feel good because of YOU. Gifts and lots of compliments are cheap/low thought attempts to win favor.
/r/seduction29/05/19 08:00 PM
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It’s also fun to do with men and women alike just walking down the street. Get used to the effect. Eye contact boosts your charisma through the roof.
/r/seduction29/05/19 07:50 PM
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Read Models. Avoid boot camps. Conservative women may put up more of a mask but once you get through it they are some of the kinkiest people I’ve had the pleasure of corrupti....errr... Yeah you get the idea.
/r/seduction29/05/19 07:45 PM
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Confidence/Charisma will never hurt your career. PUA taught me and continues to help me be better are speaking to men and women, how to get things done and not be afraid of asking for what I want. If you are just in the pick up line and canned material camp however you won’t get much to carry into other aspects of your life. Frame control and being able to hold a conversation is invaluable for nearly every aspect of my life.
/r/seduction29/05/19 07:43 PM
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Nope, I’m not. Date around your age. Nothing wrong with that. Just know it only gets better and not worse.
/r/seduction29/05/19 07:40 PM
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Lol. It’s no opinion if it’s backed up by science and fact. If you want arm candy and need your ego stroked by other men go for the early 20 something. If you want a partner then start swimming outside of the kiddy pool and find a woman... not a girl.
/r/seduction29/05/19 07:19 PM
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First couple years.. no. I was not able to transition from game into a LTR. I was also looking in the wrong places. If a guy gets into seduction to get that one girl in his class they are already shooting themselves in the foot. But, it’s a process and eventually they will learn they: A) They haven’t met a person that will be good for a LTR because they are shooting for a demographic that doesn’t want one. B)“OOOOooooh she is hot! Let’s do this!” Is not a valid reason to keep engaging with a per…
/r/seduction29/05/19 07:16 PM
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Dry and old... Lol. You need to learn more about women. Women peak sexually in their mid 30s.... and that peak doesn’t go down for a looooooong time. You know how horny you were when you were 18? Yeah that but you get to receive the benefits from an adult and not a ditzy political science major. Women’s vaginas don’t magically stop lubricating themselves when they hit a certain age. The only people that have that image in their head are insecure men that are afraid if they don’t get em young the…
/r/seduction29/05/19 06:52 PM
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The older women. Obviously. If I showed you a picture you would also think they are in their early 20s by looks alone(yeah i can be a little shallow sometimes). Magical things happened when you hang out in a lounge instead of a bar.... or increase your age search range on something like Tinder.
/r/seduction29/05/19 06:33 PM
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You don’t. Just like trying to sleep with a woman in a relationship. It’s never worth the trouble and trying to do say makes you a needy man that doesn’t have options.
/r/seduction29/05/19 06:23 PM
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Words are my love language... :P. Couldn’t resist. Different people have different values. When in doubt ask them. Tell a brief story about one of your values then ask them a relevant open ended question. LISTEN to their response and avoid trying to say things like Yeah, Okay, Sure, and Right while nodding your head. Listen for a new piece of information to give a brief platitude about it to rinse and repeat.
/r/seduction29/05/19 06:21 PM
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I love me a good “THOT.” You frame this as if it’s a negative? Like attracts like. If you are generally having partners that are shallow or not “quality.” Then you may need to change the demographics. Recently I’ve been with a few women aged 20-40. Can you guess which ones were the best in bed and have the real staying power/balance emotionally, socially and financially?
/r/seduction29/05/19 06:03 PM
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Shave your head. Age gracefully. All that other crap you do at the gym or how much money you make doesn’t matter when you are visibly uncomfortable and low confidence because you aren’t right with your inner game. Your the guy at the bar I get to buy me drinks because I just showed him how to get a number from the girl he has been looking at for 30 minutes. Only, I got the number and the beer. I’m probably shorter and fatter than you. I’ve got shitty teeth but I don’t give a fuck and I’m the onl…
/r/seduction29/05/19 05:25 PM
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Probably.
/r/seduction29/05/19 05:21 PM
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Wear a beard if you can. But if it’s going to be patchy don’t bother or focus on a style where you have thicker hair. Or.. just be patient and wait a few years. Then look back on yourself and think “daaaamn I could have done so well! Look how fucking good i looked!” Speak from your chest and walk up straight. Wear more formal attire. Stay away from baggy shit that will just make you look younger. I feel you though. I’m 34 but if I clean up or style myself in a more standard way I get carded as i…
/r/seduction29/05/19 05:20 PM
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Or you could fucking buy it. It’s not expensive. And you wonder why they need to sell self help instead to pay the bills?
/r/seduction29/05/19 05:14 PM
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30-40? Don’t really keep track of the #... that’s silly. I live in a city of less than 100k people. Still on good terms with all of them. Been in and out of PUA for 20 years. 10+ of those years were with mono/poly LTRs. 4 of those were recovering from some life happening. USA, New England... it’s pretty much it’s own country.
/r/seduction29/05/19 05:13 PM
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Wow. Back the fuck off. Not trying to be mean but if I was her I would be feeling super uncomfortable around you. Best case you are in the friend zone. Worst case you could lose your job and have a hard time getting a new one. Read Models. For your own health. People(not just women) need space. If you are using up every chance you have to hang around her that is going to propel her away from you faster than a jet engine. If you text someone and they don’t respond... the proper response is to NOT…
/r/seduction26/05/19 11:46 PM
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F U C K O F F
/r/seduction26/05/19 11:41 PM
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To each their own :). I do have to say Alan is a bold as motherfucker and I love that. Im quite happy as a mode 2 guy and have plenty of success but I will go “mode 1” when I sense they aren’t putting their whole selves out there or try to flip it and game me... or when I’m running a scene on one of my subs ;).
/r/seduction26/05/19 02:50 AM
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Was talking about the book the other guy suggested. Mode 1 is alright by Models is by far my favorite book on dating.
/r/seduction26/05/19 02:08 AM
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Lol. Alan is hilarious. I wouldn’t use that as a jumping off point thought. Half the time he is just humble bragging about is exploits. His stuff could be 80% better with 80% less filler.
/r/seduction26/05/19 01:50 AM
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If she does the “I miss you” thing it may seem like a blessing. But you broke up for a reason and if you haven’t fully identified and internalized that reason then round 2 is going to end quicker and harder than round 1. Don’t worry too much about closure. usually it’s a way we justify trying to soften the blow or have another contact.
/r/seduction26/05/19 01:14 AM
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Read Models by Mark Manson. Don’t use your success as a crutch to not work on your inner game/confidence and charisma. Those things will help in the long run but first you need to pay your dues and get your knees dirty. Even a poor man can learn to be non-needy and selective. This way you can explore relationships and dating until you find someone you really connect with. Someone that resonates with your values that isn’t just shallow arm candy.
/r/seduction26/05/19 01:10 AM
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Well the bad news is: Irrational fear is just that. It’s irrational. I know it’s not as easy as saying “HA this is irrational!” The good news is that women are pretty used to turning down all sorts of men. If she absolutely abhors you that last thing she wants to do is keep you around longer to make a spectacle. That will still just make her look like the villain. MOST people left that behavior in high school. I still feel AA... but usually it’s because I’ve imagined and thought about what I’m g…
/r/seduction26/05/19 01:04 AM
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16 bucks for a cab to and from... or zero if I go to the places near my house. $0-15 for a couple drinks.. depends on how fancy I’m feeling and if a friend is working the bar.(Don’t burn bridges) No cover because I usually know the girl at the door. (Don’t burn bridges!!!) so. $0-31
/r/seduction26/05/19 12:53 AM
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Yup, what better way to telegraph “I know what the fuck I’m doing.”
/r/seduction26/05/19 12:17 AM
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K... why do you assume it’s female trolls? Just about every woman I’ve talked to about it is actually very pro-game. And there are women that post on this sub as well. Heck. I’ve flat out told women that I’m running “game” on what I’m doing and laid it all out. Didn’t negatively affect their attraction to me one bit. But I’ll defend PUA until I’m blue in the face. But canned material and guys trying to tell others DHV stories are pretty stupid. Making lonely guys act less like needy little boys …
/r/seduction26/05/19 12:16 AM
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Read Models. As a side note. It sounds like you are putting too much weight on what you have and your position life. All that stuff is neat... but it doesn’t/shouldn’t define you.
/r/seduction26/05/19 12:01 AM
2

Which is why it’s so important to have true intentions and be honest with yourself.
/r/seduction25/05/19 10:32 PM
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This is precisely why us old farts are pushing for people to get their inner game down before trying to go full blow PUA. If you go into anything thinking it’s what you are supposed to achieve rather than finding out what you really want; there is a really good chance it won’t satisfy you.
/r/seduction25/05/19 10:08 PM
1

Yeah, stop building it up as this big and magical thing with an unknown outcome. You are going to be rejected.. so what? I’m actually asking :P. What do you think is the worst possible thing that can happen?
/r/seduction25/05/19 10:00 PM
1

It’s cool to get excited. Just be aware of it :P.
/r/seduction25/05/19 09:57 PM
2

Edit. Pull back. Don’t text too much. You already going to have to pull it back a bit. If you call her now after that text you posted you are going to scream “I need and want your company.” Give it at day. If you didn’t text her last night I would say you could call or text now to setup the date.
/r/seduction25/05/19 09:42 PM
1

“I thought you were cute and wanted to message you.” Be direct AF. You have nothing to lose.
/r/seduction25/05/19 09:19 PM
0

“I thought you were cute and wanted to message you.” Rest is up to you.
/r/seduction25/05/19 09:18 PM
2

Don’t bring it up. If she does, politely decline. Give yourself a permission to move on. Try saying it out loud. But, you can also give yourself permission to think of the good times as long as you also can understand the bad times. If you want to dwell on the relationship then make sure you are objectively trying to figure out what went wrong. Try to find the turning point when things started to go south. You are dealing with pretty severe rejection but every rejection is a chance to learn. Eve…
/r/seduction25/05/19 08:51 PM
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How long has it been? Take the recovery time to read Models. Especially if you’ve already read it before. When you are ready you may as well have the tools ready to go to get your inner game back. Don’t try to text her to see how she is doing. Don’t follow them on social media at all. Remove them if you have to. Don’t be afraid to call up a friend and tell them how you are feeling. Go out to a club or venue and just dance/have a good time. Don’t need to rush back into dating if you aren’t feelin…
/r/seduction25/05/19 08:17 PM
2

Awwww you beat me to it!
/r/seduction25/05/19 07:24 PM
1

Still doesn’t hurt to meet some people in your local kink community. If they are ethical and you are respectful they probably at least know someone who knows someone. Usually they are pretty inclusive.
/r/seduction25/05/19 05:57 PM
2

Which most of these people are not. Most of the people here don’t hate women. Most of the women here don’t hate men. They do pop up but usually it’s to troll and muddy the water. An incel here would be more likely to criticize people, laugh at them and tell them they are wasting their time.
/r/seduction25/05/19 05:55 PM
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Yeah, it is fucked up which is why they need help...and they have enough self awareness to ask for that help. How is that worthy of your invested ridicule? When people are actually desperate generally the best thing to do isn’t laugh at them and tell them “jump off the bridge already ya pussy.”
/r/seduction25/05/19 05:14 PM
4

Smart. How you ask can make all the difference in the world. Dirty talk can come into play here very well. “I bet you want me to fuck you.” Works very well for me.
/r/seduction25/05/19 05:04 PM
7

No is no. Women are allowed to change their mind. If she isn’t fighting back after saying no then there is just as good a chance of her being afraid of retaliation. You can still project your confidence by moving your focus to different parts of her body... or say “that’s cool” then get up and walk away and do something else entirely with her.
/r/seduction25/05/19 05:02 PM
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You would probably have better luck going to a munch or a goth club then. Running into what is effectively a dom in the wild is like finding a needle in a haystack.
/r/seduction25/05/19 04:51 PM
1

I know you aren’t being serious but that’s not the point of this sub. You want it to be something it’s not. But here you go anyway: Women don’t owe you shit. You don’t get a hole punched in a free sex card every time you do a good deed. This doesn’t make you a nice guy it makes you a Nice Guy which is by definition a POS without self reflection or respect for women.
/r/seduction25/05/19 04:49 PM
9

Lol. Either you are just failing at being a troll or you are projecting. Gonna go with projection on this one.
/r/seduction25/05/19 04:38 PM
11

You kink shaming? Nothing about this question is abnormal.
/r/seduction25/05/19 04:32 PM
2

That one is up to you. Don’t shoot to much for same day but you don’t need to worry about crap like “Wait three days before messaging her again.”
/r/seduction25/05/19 04:30 PM
3

If she was receptive to your touching but you didn’t make a move it could be over. Only one way to find out! Make plans to see her again. Don’t text to much. If she is receptive to your touching(hugs dont count) you can/should try for a kiss asap.
/r/seduction25/05/19 04:19 PM
2

It’s not a booty call. Booty calls are immediate and direct. She seems interested in hanging out but don’t look into it to much.
/r/seduction25/05/19 04:15 PM
1

Fuck off.
/r/seduction25/05/19 04:03 PM
1

Don’t be. Don’t support this sub killing crap.
/r/seduction25/05/19 04:03 PM
1

It has far more to do with safety. Someone that puts themselves out there with other people presents some level of social proof... which increases the chance that they can be held accountable for their actions/behavior.
/r/seduction25/05/19 04:02 PM
1

It can’t help itself to not give everything a misogynistic slant. TRP uses parts of PUA without context and to support the foundational arguments. Lol. TRP practically has a breakdown when someone supports feminism yet they quote Neil Strauss... and avowed feminist... when it’s convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 03:28 PM
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Because we only have one semi active mod and nobody follows the rules. 70% of the posts are as follows: How do I get this one girl in my class to like me? How do I text better? PM me to buy pirated RSD material! Does she like me? Did I mess this up.... I REALLY LIKE THIS ONE GIRL? Hey, watch my YouTube video!
/r/seduction25/05/19 03:15 PM
1

Lol, sure. All literature does not provoke so much emotion and response. I’ve read plenty of really shitty books and not all romance novels are best sellers. Anything you are saying through texting should be said in person. If you get a hit and manage to strike up enough of a conversation with a stranger from a DM... congrats! You threw the dice and got lucky.... Attractive women are inundated with directed messages every day. It matters very little what you say and has far more to do with every…
/r/seduction25/05/19 02:51 PM
2

Wear something that fits well and matches. Make sure you feel comfortable. Applies for just about any situation.
/r/seduction25/05/19 12:42 AM
2

Yo. Your fucking spam bot is broken. GTFO
/r/seduction25/05/19 12:31 AM
1

Sounds good. Also sounds like the only thing you were getting out of it and at a pretty steep emotional cost. Move on and be aware the next time around. Just because someone is reseptive to sleeping with you and they are hot. Doesn’t mean it’s worth it.
/r/seduction24/05/19 11:37 PM
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You mean not trying to text or slide into DMs? Not blaming women/people for being selective? Not acting like “I just need to go to the gym one more time and make more money... THEN I’ll talk to women!”
/r/seduction24/05/19 10:57 PM
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You don’t. Use it for making plans at most. Unless you just want to be friends... It’s really easy to read into texts faaaar too much because you are missing so much communication.
/r/seduction24/05/19 10:37 PM
2

Dance and have fun like you don’t give a shit. Gesture them over to ask if they want to dance with you. Shrug it off if they don’t.
/r/seduction24/05/19 09:15 PM
2

Relationships are about balance. If you are saying yes to everything then you are accepting an imbalance. You aren’t going to “make” her respect you. You can be more confident and not dependent on her approval to encourage her to respect you more. If you want her to respect you then you are coming from the wrong headspace and are actually looking for her approval. Learn to say “no.” Be sure you are doing things without her. Don’t go out of your way to do this, but you should be enjoying a life o…
/r/seduction24/05/19 09:05 PM
2

Having them agree or disagree on the obvious weather isn’t going to help them know you better or help you know them better. Ask for their name first because you would like to meet them. If they just smile and nod or don’t ask you for your just say “it was nice to meet you” and walk away. If they ask for your name then: Ask open ended questions about things that genuinely interest you. Keep the conversation going and don’t be afraid to ask for number or a date early. The better you listen the eas…
/r/seduction24/05/19 08:54 PM
2

Nothing, I get way more out of my relationships because I try to understand why people do things and not just focus on what they did... or their nefarious plot to take away my balls!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 08:49 PM
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You don’t. Most of how people communicate is with body language and their facial expressions. You don’t get any of this from text/dm. At best you are going to get a shallow date with a shallow person since all initial interactions are 100% based off each other’s personal appearance and a dice roll of a message.
/r/seduction24/05/19 08:35 PM
2

Just do it :/. The longer you wait the less confident you will seem. Are you waiting for her to hit you over the head with a mallet and tell you she likes you? Doesn’t matter. If she rejects you and you don’t get weird about it you can stay friends. Waiting isn’t going to get her to like you more or develop attraction for you. Waiting will only neuter anything that could be there. Wouldn’t it be better to get it out of the way and move on?
/r/seduction24/05/19 08:23 PM
1

K. I think you may be missing the point. You are right. A truly strong person wouldn’t need to come here asking for help. But... A lot of the men and women here do need some actual help. For whatever reason they’ve lost confidence in themselves and it repels any potential partners they could have. Or, they get lucky and manage to sneak into an extremely co-dependent relationship. Helping people with their language, appearance and confidence now is a good way to prevent them from blaming others a…
/r/seduction24/05/19 07:51 PM
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Lol. There is a limit. The only guys that fantasize about getting a constant flow of new and constant pussy have never had to deal with the stress of the logistics involved.
/r/seduction23/05/19 10:45 PM
1

Read Models. It was initially written for men but if you swap out some pronouns 80% of it is applicable to both genders. Neediness affects both women and men and is a turn off for both genders. A lot of PUA spend quite a bit of time on their inner game to get over this and access their inherent confidence. If feeling like you heart is getting broken over and over again or will get broken over and over again then this is a sign that you are needy. This will come out in how you present yourself an…
/r/seduction23/05/19 10:36 PM
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Wow, I told a story about how rejection is fine and it’s totally cool to go in and get rejected to learn how to be comfortable with... And you seem to have taken it as a personal attack or as advice to be followed like a recipe. Work on your inner game bub.
/r/seduction23/05/19 09:01 PM
1

I didn’t say it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 08:54 PM
1

Lol. I gave you sound advice and that’s what you focused on? Good luck with yourself.
/r/seduction23/05/19 08:44 PM
1

You are putting too much value on appearance. Yes it’s important but it’s far from everything. If what you are taking away from the experience is “i got rejected cause I look like a bum” then you are focusing on the wrong things. You should be thinking “how was my approach off? What did I say that made me sound needy? ” There is literally no point in trying to blame shit on your appearance. You know you can look as good as possible when you want but there is a pretty low bar for diminishing retu…
/r/seduction23/05/19 08:40 PM
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Normally I would agree with you but it shouldn’t be our responsibility to report the spam.. that does get downvoted... that gets left up because this sub needs more active mods. I’m fine with inactive mods but that just means we need more safeguards in place. There is a difference between having an active community and a healthy one. People do come her generally needing help, sure. But a lot of their questions should actually be sent over to r/dating. 5 sticky topics could answer 80% of the ques…
/r/seduction23/05/19 08:27 PM
1

Spam/negative accounts typically have negative Karma.
/r/seduction23/05/19 08:20 PM
1

No, you have to be comfortable with rejection. Period. You also have to be able to be confident when you know you are not a perfect specimen of style. If you can still go out and have a good time then what’s the cope? Did you think a few steps ahead to then combining that state of mind with a good haircut and some style?
/r/seduction23/05/19 08:18 PM
1

Women are better socialized than men and have less of an ego to feed in terms of their sexuality. Homosexuality has historically been linked to not being masculine... when men deal with another man that confronts their weak sexuality this often leads to hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 07:47 PM
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ask r/dating. The only proper answer you should get from any guy on this sub will be to “Get over her and stop being needy.” Don’t ask for facebook when you should be getting her number.
/r/seduction23/05/19 07:36 PM
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First: Wrong Sub. Second: No, you are fine. Some people just don’t care about sex. If it really bugs you then see a therapist about it so they can determine if it’s because of trauma or your sexuality is asexual... which is fine.
/r/seduction23/05/19 07:06 PM
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You aren’t wasting your time but you did fuck up with texting. You shouldn’t have used an emoji. You shouldn’t have given a choice for which activity you wanted to do: this shows you are unsure and are trying to cast a net to get her interest. You had a specific time and place in mind already. Why didn’t you lead with that? You became complacent and went into puppy mode the second she said she was going to be super busy. A better reaction would have been. “Some other time then.” And left it at t…
/r/seduction23/05/19 07:02 PM
2

Ya know that saying “Don’t shit where you eat.” ? If you don’t care about your reputation have it it. If you do care about your professional reputation don’t even try. Even if you get something out of it... it wont last forever. Models talk to each other A LOT about who to work with and who not to work with.
/r/seduction23/05/19 06:51 PM
1

Sounds good to me. I have the attention span of a carrot so tonight works. Let’s meet for<activity at public location> at 8.
/r/seduction23/05/19 06:42 PM
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Hell yes! To bad mods are basically ghosts >.<
/r/seduction23/05/19 06:07 PM
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Read Models. Then do it again. And again. You’re still young so you have plenty of time to figure this shit out. Anybody that survived their early 20s and late teens will tell you it’s a fucking wash. It only gets better if you keep working at it.
/r/seduction23/05/19 06:01 PM
2

Why are you asking directions? Why are you trying to compliment them? Why not just open by asking them their name and saying “nice to meet you.” <insert conversation>
/r/seduction23/05/19 05:58 PM
1

Do you respect PUAs that have slept with as many or more ? How is it different? Sounds to me like you are making an excuse for you insecurity of wether or not you can stack up and keep her attention. I had a partner that had been with 100+ guys. It was actually pretty great. A lot of the bullshit and beating around the bush goes out the window when both people know what the hell they are doing and are sex positive.
/r/seduction23/05/19 05:56 PM
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Be forward. Don’t get caught in the text trap. Ask her to get a bite. If she turns you down. Leave it on read and then go get something really tasty. Snap her back “your loss!” Then move on.
/r/seduction23/05/19 05:49 PM
1

This. gave myself a shitty haircut and wore some crappy clothes one night. Was fully planning on be rejected but wanted to still have fun. Ended up getting free drinks and new contacts all night. I was literally zero risk because they knew I wasn’t trying to sweep them off their feet... which ironically led me to sweeping many of them off their feet.
/r/seduction23/05/19 05:42 PM
1

Been there. Generally it’s not worth it. Even if you guys date for months or a year if things go well.... what happens when you break up? When in doubt. Consult HR. Their job is to handle questions like this and advise you relative to the company policies.
/r/seduction23/05/19 05:38 PM
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Fuck off.
/r/seduction23/05/19 05:33 PM
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I charge by the hour and my schedule is all booked up so... lets stop wasting time. Proceed to salsa. This isn’t a shit test. She’s asking you to fucking take her hand.
/r/seduction23/05/19 05:33 PM
1

Hahahaha. Yes, some women are lacking social skills but in general women are far more socialized than men out of survival and necessity. Social media and cell phones have not ruined them. Just because they don’t smile and laugh and reciprocate to everything(or anything) you say when they don’t even know you and you’ve given them no reason to know you doesn’t mean they are ruined.... it means they value their time and YOU have been ruined by not being able to adapt and communicate with them.
/r/seduction23/05/19 05:13 PM
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Political campaigns.
/r/seduction23/05/19 05:05 PM
3

If you have to ask this question then you know the answer. You don’t Part of you is horny though so you are hoping you get some jackass virgin pretending to be a bro to come in here and be like “Fuck ya brah! Smash that puss!” That will not help you emotionally or in the long term. Being able to say no to easy sex is something that takes maturity and self reflection.
/r/seduction23/05/19 05:03 PM
1

Don’t ambush her from the side or any of the crap. If she doesn’t want it she will turn you down and then you stop. When you do that you are being respectful. Nothing to be embarrassed about. If you bring your face close to hers ... noses practically touching. And she doesn’t move and then you say “may I kiss you?” She knows you know that she is all for it. Your just acknowledging your appreciation for her consent..... and ooooh boy can you make it sexy as hell before you even kiss her. You can …
/r/seduction23/05/19 04:59 PM
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FUCK OFF
/r/seduction23/05/19 04:25 PM
1

Wow , you have a fundamental misunderstanding of women. You’ve only just started so this is understandable. Once you understand women better you’ll be able to listen to them better. When you can listen to women better, and I mean REALLY listen to them you’ll have an almost effortless time being able to maintain a conversation. They aren’t being brick walls to you because they are boring. They are being brick walls to you because YOU are boring. You aren’t asking them interesting enough questions…
/r/seduction23/05/19 03:44 PM
2

Yeah. More often than not if they aren’t in a hurry you’ll be fine. Hold on...... Okay back. Yeah, still works.
/r/seduction22/05/19 11:04 PM
2

Sounds like you are being a lap dog. no offense. Even if you have a sexy as hell FWB you need to keep the game up and be building attraction. Hell even if you are with the woman of your dreams in an mono-LTR the game still rules. Coming over at her whim is not how to build attraction. But, also flaking because you ran into someone is also crappy. At times like that simply breaking the plan could have actually increased her desire for you. Or a message like “Hey, ran into someone. Maybe some othe…
/r/seduction22/05/19 10:55 PM
4

There is no creep jail. if you want to talk to them then talk to them. As long as you don’t grab them or not leave them alone if they aren’t receptive then you will be fine.
/r/seduction22/05/19 10:46 PM
2

yeah. point is that apology is not necessary. Plenty of stronger things to say.
/r/seduction22/05/19 10:33 PM
2

“I know this is totally bonkers...”. Falling back to an apology is making an excuse for lack of creativity ;)
/r/seduction22/05/19 10:31 PM
2

This... seriously.
/r/seduction22/05/19 10:05 PM
1

You dont need to have a conversation. You meet up in a public place asap... get accepted or move on.
/r/seduction22/05/19 10:04 PM
1

Therapy rocks! Just remember: Like attracts like. If you form strong friendships with cool and interesting women then when you go out to have fun with them but you’ll be playing the field you’ve already passed almost every shit test before you even approach.
/r/seduction22/05/19 09:58 PM
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You can show awareness without immediately throwing yourself off a cliff by using weak and insecure language. “This is weird” shows awareness, keeps you playful and doesn’t immedietly start your interactions with someone with an apology like you are looking for approval.
/r/seduction22/05/19 09:36 PM
2

Welcome back. Was out for similar reasons as you. The dog is your warm open because it’s yours. Treat is almost as if you are cold preaching a woman that is already petting a dog. What would you say?
/r/seduction22/05/19 09:15 PM
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If the sex is good and you are both into it then no need to stop. if you are catching oneitis for what is admittedly not a strong relationships then look objectively. Someone willing to cheat with your will be willing to cheat on you. It’s critical you start seeing other people. Don’t be a safe fallback for her if she has a bad night or a bad date. Would she do the same for you?
/r/seduction22/05/19 09:08 PM
2

It’s easy to think booze will help you be more charismatic and loosen up but it’s not really. You’re just shutting down a chunk of your brain. A chunk of brain that you need to run a strong and ethical game. If you are still early in your PUA/seduction studies... you can make use of a crutch from time to time but it will cloud your ability to reflect when you do fuck up.... which will make the entire process more difficult.
/r/seduction22/05/19 08:12 PM
1

You are missing out if you don’t have a strong network of platonic female friends. Seriously. Best wingmen are wing women. If you are having trouble connecting with women platonically that will only make relationships harder. If you are having trouble with a white Knight complex then you will need to internalize “It’s not my job to fix this person.” Nothing wrong with therapy. I too struggled for a long time with a crippling fear of abandonment. I have no problem getting a date but that fear wou…
/r/seduction22/05/19 08:08 PM
2

10s are just 5s with more guys following them around and trying to buy them shit. By NOT being that guy but still being sexual you set yourself waaaaay ahead of the pack... but you are still putting her on a pedestal higher than you because of your inner game. Side note. I’ve slept with 10s. Always disappointing experience. Low energy usually.... people’s patience for them is pretty high so they are used to getting away with a lot of really fucking annoying behavior. Don’t over invest and I hope…
/r/seduction22/05/19 07:47 PM
1

Bowling. Why do you think she is a potential girlfriend? That’s the real issue here. You are already over investing and she will smell the neediness.
/r/seduction22/05/19 07:41 PM
0

Lol. Cash isn’t seduction. If that’s the route you want to go you are in the wrong place. Spend the wad of cash you would need to spend on some coaching/books and actually get some skills you can enjoy the rest of your life.
/r/seduction22/05/19 07:40 PM
2

You don’t. You respect her sexuality like you would like gay men to respect yours.
/r/seduction22/05/19 03:37 AM
1

But you do want to advertise your intentions. Read Models.. lol.
/r/seduction22/05/19 03:33 AM
2

Escape rooms are terrible for early dates. Go bowling. Thank me later.
/r/seduction22/05/19 03:32 AM
1

Ideally you would go into the field. Online dating is just a really elaborate and overly safe way to walk up to women and say “hi.” What would you do in person? Be direct, be confident and don’t waste too much time with low information small talk. Have you tried opening with asking them to meet instead of beating around the bush?
/r/seduction22/05/19 03:28 AM
1

Then she’ll cheat on you as well. The BF will hate your guts and in the age of social media well... it can be a lot more trouble than it’s worth.
/r/seduction22/05/19 03:24 AM
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Because it will make you come off as needy more times than not. Best case scenario you’ll be missing out on things better left to face to face communication.... Asking someone what their favorite color is in person is infinitely more education than doing it on the phone or text. You miss out on body language, eye contact, facial expressions... 90% of how humans communicate with eachotrher.
/r/seduction22/05/19 03:18 AM
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You don’t. Leave texting for making plans. You haven’t even been on a first date... yet you will be communicating that you’ve already overly invested her... and thusly are needy/desperate. You wont make her like you more through texting. You CAN make her like you less.
/r/seduction22/05/19 03:14 AM
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Dominance has nothing to do with being mean. Have the biggest confidence and charisma in a room and you will be dominant. The way you act and the way you enthrall people with your presence is dominance. Source: I’m also a male Dom..lol
/r/seduction22/05/19 02:58 AM
3

Of course. Learning PUA and seduction gives a person options to find someone they really want to be with. The skills can also help keep a LTR healthy and balanced for both partners.
/r/seduction22/05/19 02:46 AM
2

If you are needing to calculate the cost of dating someone you are doing it wrong. Why are you buying people so much stuff? Stop. If you want to do that an escort is probably going to be cheaper and more convenient. Don’t buy dinner. Don’t buy drinks. Don’t buy or try to win her by proxy.
/r/seduction20/05/19 03:14 PM
1

Common question? If you are getting asked this then you should be either moving into the kiss or telling them “We’re going to fuck each other’s brains out.”
/r/seduction20/05/19 03:06 PM
1

If she rejects you and you don’t take it personally or weird then you’re fine. if you continue to pursue then you aren’t. Co-workers basically socializing and being friends is damn near essential to healthy workplace. But again, if you are that worried then consult HR. That is literally their job. it’s not just to take complaints.
/r/seduction19/05/19 11:37 PM
2

Oh.. just 5 months? I think you can keep a lid on it for that amount of time. Ask her out for lunch or something. Typically luncheons are or day get together scream “lets just be friends.” But considering the professional aspect it’s a good way to keep it safe to suss things out to and determine if you want to move further.
/r/seduction19/05/19 10:00 PM
1

Wait for it to not be a work issue. Speaking from experience... Something like this can be waaaay more stress than it’s worth.
/r/seduction19/05/19 09:33 PM
1

If you approach immediately when she stop being a client you effectively have a delayed opening window and will probably still come off as being confident AND having a strong work ethic.
/r/seduction19/05/19 09:19 PM
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If your game is genuine then YOU SHOULD BE keeping the seduction going. She want’s to still feel like she is being pursued and wanted. Texting should still be used for making plans... maybe a LITTLE small talk. Changing the person she was attracted to initially is why people in LTR experience a massive drop in sex, intimacy and emotional growth. If she gets together with you because you are a good dancer why would you stop dancing?
/r/seduction19/05/19 09:14 PM
1

So.. why shouldn’t i report you for piracy?
/r/seduction19/05/19 09:08 PM
0

Stop. You aren’t helping the community.
/r/seduction19/05/19 09:06 PM
1

Make sure it’s cool with HR first lol. Usually company manuals will have bits and pieces about rules regarding coworker romance. Even if you can it doesn’t mean you should. How close in terms of proximity are you at work with her respective duties/responsibilities?
/r/seduction19/05/19 09:05 PM
1

No. Get a real job.
/r/seduction19/05/19 09:00 PM
1

you don’t. Don’t text for conversation. Text for making plans.
/r/seduction19/05/19 09:00 PM
1

No problem. We all process it and learn differently. Try not to get caught up on the whole alpha vs beta thing either. It’s a woefully simplistic way of describing the nuances of confidence and non-neediness vs obsessive over the potential of an interaction and being dependent on others approval.
/r/seduction19/05/19 08:58 PM
4

You need therapy.
/r/seduction19/05/19 08:37 PM
2

Actionable and valuable. It’s a foundation book that is good enough to get you out in the field and prevent a lot of dumb situations/actions. Some people give it hate because it doesn’t hand out canned material. It’s going to make you work for your results and be comfortable with rejection and not being a needy piece of shit. When you grasp and appreciate Models you will be so far ahead of the game already if you then want to dive deeper.
/r/seduction19/05/19 08:02 PM
1

Skip the cheek next time and go straight for the face. Cheek is fallback not opener ;). How STRANGE would it be to have someone kiss you multiple times on the cheek when you have a perfectly good neck and lips?
/r/seduction19/05/19 07:56 PM
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If you are interested it means approach her and find out.... It does not mean “oh hey if you just come over here I’ll marry you and fuck your brains out.” It means “Oh. I wonder if this man is attractive enough to actually talk to me.... oh shit he is coming over! Do I have anything in my teeth... play it cool Deb! You won’t know until he opens his mouth. He’s almost here. WOW he’s got some guts, and look at how confidently he walks and looks at me. This day is about to get really good.” You: “U…
/r/seduction19/05/19 07:53 PM
1

First. It’s easier to carry on a conversation when you open with a true statement. What stuck out to me was when she mentioned hoodies.... Why did she suggest a hoodie? Let’s explore that as an example: “What do you like so much about hoodies?” “Bla bla they are comfy.” “What if she is looking for something comfy and sexy to go out and cause trouble?” “Bla bla this, this and that.” (Hit a dead end?) “I like how (clothing) looks on you. How do you decide what to get when you go out shopping?” Bre…
/r/seduction19/05/19 07:47 PM
2

If there is a significant level of attraction “lets get the fuck out of here” is more than ample. “Where?” “Who lives closer?” If you’ve already been making out then this shouldn’t be a leap. Eventually, when you get your game down you can pretty much come out and say “Let’s fuck.” Which can lead into a whole other branch of seduction... lol. “Want to hear me play guitar?” Is weak because she already knows that you want more but you are trying to be cute(sneaky) about it. It may work on college …
/r/seduction19/05/19 07:28 PM
1

In my BDSM crowds it still is generally assumed or comes up in casual conversation. I was speaking more towards when I go out there and poke around for normies. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 04:10 PM
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You don’t have to ask if they are pro choice... it’s generally assumed. If they are pro life they’ll let you know within a couple of hours on their own. The right likes to complain about feminists... LOL. Conservative women are some of the loudest and most vocal people in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 02:48 PM
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Nothing. Continue as normal. You are overthinking the importance of talking or making connections on social media. Even when I rarely check facebook I almost never notice a friend request for at least a couple weeks. Life happens and facebook isn’t life.
/r/seduction19/05/19 12:43 AM
1

Lol.. When was the last time you were laid or had a basic friendship with a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 12:00 AM
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Um.. yeah. Not my choice. It’s her’s. I won’t date anybody or pick up anybody that isn’t pro choice. .
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 11:51 PM
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The last thing a FWB want’s is a relationship. You blew it but you can learn a lot from this experience. Even when pursuing or trying to escalate a FWB your going to have to be about the most busy and non needy guy you can be. Think about it from her perspective: “This guy is pretty fun. I would like to have more fun with him... oh shit he is texting me and wanting to hang out with me like my shitty, needy ex-boyfriend did. This is NOT what I wanted. Do I turn him down and risk him getting all b…
/r/seduction18/05/19 06:19 PM
1

Yup. Most bowling alleys also have bars and or arcades. You can change venue in the same place. Get a drink... take a break. Eat some shitty food and talk about how amazing it is... ect.
/r/seduction18/05/19 06:10 PM
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Can someone make me a mod so I can shit down these shitty posts? You’ve been given advice. You just don’t like it because it doesn’t stroke the toxic ego you’ve built up for yourself. The best advice is hard. We aren’t going to treat you with kitten gloves. We don’t have time for that. YOU don’t have time for that.
/r/seduction18/05/19 06:06 PM
2

Bowling! Thank me later.
/r/seduction18/05/19 06:04 PM
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In general you don’t... you can but not with someone you havent had sex with. not in any reliable fashion. You are using texting as an excuse for not presenting yourself in person, making approaches, or being direct.
/r/seduction18/05/19 04:32 PM
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Stop worrying about rejection. if a woman goes home with you (dorm or whatever) then there is a better chance than not she is interested unless you’ve been hanging out for a long time then your in the friendzone. Rejection is the best thing that can happen to you when you are learning PUA/seduction.
/r/seduction18/05/19 04:27 PM
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The stories provided are fun to read. But, if you want a more literary guide that can teach you a thing or two about seduction; go pick up some trashy romance novels from the super market. 50 shades of grey. Nay book with a horse and shirtless dude on the cover.. ect. Romance novels are a fucking goldmine.
/r/seduction18/05/19 04:18 PM
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Let her know you are busy. :D. DON’T beg for her to ask you again. Return with a definite plan with a time, day and location. If she says she is busy. Say “some other time then.” Then stop texting her. If she says fuck yeah. Tell her “great I’ll let you know if anything comes up and I can’t make it. Otherwise i’ll see you then!”..... then stop texting her!
/r/seduction18/05/19 04:11 PM
1

How is being insecure about height going to improve someone’s game? It’s not. Wether or not it has a substantial impact on someone’s physical attraction is irrelevant as it can’t be changed. Either you are successful or you try harder. Wrong sub. Head over to r/braincels if you want to have a height based circlejerk.
/r/seduction18/05/19 03:58 AM
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How is being insecure about height going to improve someone’s game? It’s not. Wether or not it has a substantial impact on someone’s physical attraction is irrelevant as it can’t be changed. Either you are successful or you try harder. Wrong sub. Head over to r/braincels if you want to have a height based circlejerk.
/r/seduction18/05/19 03:36 AM
1

How is being insecure about height going to improve someone’s game? It’s not. Wether or not it has a substantial impact on someone’s physical attraction is irrelevant as it can’t be changed. Either you are successful or you try harder. Wrong sub. Head over to r/braincels if you want to have a height based circlejerk.
/r/seduction18/05/19 03:29 AM
1

How is being insecure about height going to improve someone’s game? It’s not. Wether or not it has a substantial impact on someone’s physical attraction is irrelevant as it can’t be changed. Either you are successful or you try harder. Wrong sub. Head over to r/braincels if you want to have a height based circlejerk.
/r/seduction18/05/19 03:28 AM
1

How is being insecure about height going to improve someone’s game? It’s not. Wether or not it has a substantial impact on someone’s physical attraction is irrelevant as it can’t be changed. Either you are successful or you try harder. Wrong sub. Head over to r/braincels if you want to have a height based circlejerk.
/r/seduction18/05/19 03:28 AM
1

How is being insecure about height going to improve someone’s game? It’s not. Wether or not it has a substantial impact on someone’s physical attraction is irrelevant as it can’t be changed. Either you are successful or you try harder. Wrong sub. Head over to r/braincels if you want to have a height based circlejerk.
/r/seduction18/05/19 03:27 AM
1

How is being insecure about height going to improve someone’s game? It’s not. Wether or not it has a substantial impact on someone’s physical attraction is irrelevant as it can’t be changed. Either you are successful or you try harder. Wrong sub. Head over to r/braincels if you want to have a height based circlejerk.
/r/seduction18/05/19 03:27 AM
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Because an actual PUA doesn’t need to or want to fake it. Behaviors like this can lead someone to narcissism very fast. Plus, when you meet them in person you are going to be SOL. A quality and observant woman will smell insincerity from a mile away. Falling back on facebook is an excuse to not get into the field.
/r/seduction18/05/19 01:37 AM
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I wouldn’t bother. Chances are if you do get feedback it’s going to be this. “You’re a really sweet guy. I’m just not looking for anything right now.” Generally you’re just going to come off needy for either approval or feedback so someone else is usually just going to try to diffuse the situation as they see it... regardless of if you genuinely want feedback or not. From their perspective you are just trying to sneak in another interaction.
/r/seduction18/05/19 01:27 AM
1

Giant text wall is hard to read.
/r/seduction18/05/19 01:24 AM
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Next time, think to yourself. “How long before I regret not taking action?” An hour? 10 minutes? A day? What will effect you more? Regret or being rejected and being able to learn from the attempt? Which will help you improve more in the future? PS: Formatting is your friend.
/r/seduction18/05/19 01:08 AM
1

Oh cool! You selling digital copies of pirated material?!?! Tell me more! \s
/r/seduction17/05/19 09:51 PM
3

When you make eye contact with someone don’t be the first person to break it.
/r/seduction17/05/19 09:37 PM
1

You are making a lot of assumptions. When you say “that rare”. What are you talking relatively too? Who is stating that they are “Rare.” I personally know more women in STEM fields than I do men. My friends and acquaintances are about 40/40/20 (male, female, trans/non binary). Women for the most part don’t want to make money from their looks or be locked into careers traditionally for women. The models I do know do so out of necessity because it pays well but would much rather pursue other areas…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 09:29 PM
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It takes practice. Set aside some time every day before you need to go and get stuff done. Put a little more ritual into your morning routine. Don’t hit the snooze button on your alarm. If you went out the night before with little success, take some time in the shower to go over what you did wrong, what was beyond your control and how you can make the next approach or interaction even more valuable.
/r/seduction17/05/19 08:13 PM
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Be direct. Tell him what you actually want. Take a few moments to figure that out first. Although men have very binary intentions... yours may be a bit more nuanced then “Fuck or nah.” Both women and men need to make their intentions clear when pursuing someone. How much of this do you want to be a seduction or average people awkwardly trying to date each other?
/r/seduction17/05/19 07:37 PM
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Just because a woman is being personable doesn’t mean she needs to be trying to get laid. You red pills are retarded. You project your desires and how you judge people/ motivations on women... then get pissed off when a guy like me swings through the bar and AMOGs the lot of you. Show’s how much you actually understand about women.
/r/seduction17/05/19 07:32 PM
1

Nope lol. Your red pills are expired.
/r/seduction17/05/19 07:30 PM
1

Tens of Thousands. Not exaggerating. I talk in front of 100s of people a week for my job.
/r/seduction17/05/19 07:28 PM
1

Yet you missed the irony of my post.
/r/seduction17/05/19 04:20 AM
1

Shit you’re right. Don’t need guys like this running around and giving us a bad name.
/r/seduction17/05/19 03:07 AM
1

Try again ASAP. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
/r/seduction17/05/19 03:00 AM
1

Nice Guy... If she likes you then taking her out for a fancy meal isn’t going to do anything... in fact it could hurt things. If she isn’t into you then taking her out to a nice place isn’t going to make her like you. In fact she may get pissed that you are trying to guilt her into reciprocating. Go for something cheap and fun. Don’t pay for her. Split the check. You are dancing right on Nice Guy territory. Want to know why women hate Nice Guys? Because their actions always come with an asterisk…
/r/seduction17/05/19 02:56 AM
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I feel ya. I go through Demi phases every once in a while. One of my closest friends is all Demi all the time. BUT. This is very much a seduction/PUA sub. If you want more specific date advice I would suggest r/dating. Much of the advice and questions you will get here should revolve around a bit more rapid escalation to a relationship... usually sexually.
/r/seduction17/05/19 02:40 AM
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Prioritize. Give yourself a schedule if you need to.
/r/seduction17/05/19 02:26 AM
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None ;). I don’t have free time. I’m too high value and busy for free time :P.
/r/seduction17/05/19 02:24 AM
1

Oooh yeah.. You should head over to r/dating then lol. It’s not just about sex but it’s NOT about getting the ONE girl.
/r/seduction17/05/19 01:16 AM
1

As your attorney I advise you to move on. As a man that has dealt with a very similar situation I say ask her out for lunch. Be amicable and really determine if you want to pursue things further once you get to know her better as a friend. Not a lot of wiggle room here for full on game and suggestive dialogue until you can have an amicable relation to fall back out and suss out her views on workplace romance.
/r/seduction17/05/19 01:10 AM
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Be friendly. Make a new friend. Totally fine to put yourself into the friendzone here lol. Fun fact... you may not even disqualify yourself completely here. If she was interested but unable now, chances are those feelings wont actually completely leave until she is single again and lets you approach again. Just don’t fall into the completely nice guy trap. My best wingmen are in-fact, gorgeous, intelligent and strong women that have become very close friends.
/r/seduction17/05/19 01:07 AM
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If company policy allows it. Just ask her out for a drink sometimes... if she turns you down... be very content and respectful then DROP IT. When in doubt ask HR. Done :D Workplace relationships can be very tricky to navigate. But as long as you are super respectful of boundaries and don’t escalate physically before you know you are good to go for a fact they are possible. But honestly.... just not worth it in the long run. Still too much risk even though the relationship is consensual and not e…
/r/seduction17/05/19 12:59 AM
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Great work! Awesome she told you about he boyfriend early and before you got emotionally invested. It can be very easy for men to feel emotionally invested waaaaaaaay before there is any reason to be..... especially when just getting your feet wet with approaches. It didn’t escalate for practical reasons but you also werent completely rejected. Keep in contact... friendzone her and recruit her as a wing woman.
/r/seduction17/05/19 12:53 AM
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Um no.. lol. Go back to emotional IQ class. Just because you don’t understand women in the slightest doesn’t mean they are just trying to fuck around with you. How many women have you smiled at when you’ve had a girlfriend and had no intention of doing anything with them?
/r/seduction17/05/19 12:50 AM
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Why do you have to be careful with how you act? As long as you are respectful and direct you should be fine. If she isn’t interested at all in you then no magic line or word is going to manipulate her otherwise. PUA/Seduction at the end of the day is not dropping the ball after a woman has given you eye contact with an IOI and/or your initial approach wasn’t completely shot down.
/r/seduction17/05/19 12:46 AM
2

Depends on the person. Not everyone is comfortable/capable of polyamory or monogamy. Psychological impact really depends on how healthy or not the relationship was. It’s extremely subjective.
/r/seduction17/05/19 12:43 AM
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I’ve done mushrooms MANY times and they are great for self reflection and empathy.... but any claim this fantastic requires fantastic evidence. I’ve also probably done LSD 100 times. It’s a Hollywood myth that psychedelics will give you some sort of secret knowledge you didn’t already have.... poured into your should from the ether. That’s not how the chemicals work on your brain. This is way more of a desperate/needy attempt at creating click bait to garner favor with the more “spiritual” self …
/r/seduction17/05/19 12:39 AM
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Both lol.
/r/seduction16/05/19 11:51 PM
1

Hi is literally the best opening line in the world. none of that “did you fall from heaven” crap.
/r/seduction16/05/19 11:33 PM
1

Yeah. Keep in mind you still haven’t fully qualified her and walk up. Now this part is very important.... Say.... “Hi.”
/r/seduction16/05/19 10:42 PM
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Stick with Models for now. Don’t get into the trap of trying to process too many different sources of information until you’ve fully processed and implemented what you do have. it’s very easy to think “just one more book and then I’ll be ready.” this is usually just an excuse to prevent yourself from making approaches or taking action.
/r/seduction16/05/19 10:09 PM
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Good! Learn from your mistake and push on. Remember. Women have lives too. Messaging is terrible for direct communication.
/r/seduction16/05/19 10:04 PM
1

Art of Seduction is fine as a collection of interesting stories. I read it cover to cover when it first came out and didn’t really “get” anything from it but I did enjoy it from a literary perspective.
/r/seduction16/05/19 09:54 PM
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A woman in her 30s has been running this game far better and longer than you. You need to have your shit together because she’ll smell is a mile away. Your best bet is to be genuine but don’t treat her like a girl that will be satisfied with enough material to dress up her IG story.
/r/seduction16/05/19 09:25 PM
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If you have social anxiety to the level in which you fallback is to only try online dating then you need to stop online dating and deal with those issues. Any possible success you could have with online dating will be consumed by your own head not being in order. Therapy doesn’t mean you are weak. it means you are strong enough to ask for and receive help.
/r/seduction16/05/19 09:23 PM
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Dude... stop reposting this shit. head over to r/dating. this is a place for men and women to get better at PUA and seduction.... not pump up someone’s ego. If your picture is outdated.. and it’s bothering you. UPDATE YOUR PHOTO!!!!!
/r/seduction16/05/19 09:22 PM
1

“Trade”. Seriously? Are you a five year old trying to “Trade” digital material. That is effectively piracy and at the point why would someone want to go through you?
/r/seduction16/05/19 09:20 PM
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Lol. I’ve told similar stories to my feminist friends and they gave me a high five so I humbly disagree.
/r/seduction16/05/19 09:18 PM
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I know right?
/r/seduction16/05/19 09:02 PM
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You don’t know if she is mentally and emotionally your type until you talk to her ;). So... don’t be thinking like “omg this chick is totally my type.” you’re only seeing one part of the whole picture when you dont know more. She has her foot in the door but your a badass that wants more information before YOU have selected her. :P. there. Inner game in a can.
/r/seduction16/05/19 08:58 PM
3

Nothing wrong with small talk at the gym to be honest. Just get the basics out of the way... then you can warm approach when you are both done your workouts.
/r/seduction16/05/19 08:55 PM
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“I’ve got some stuff to do. This sounds like an interesting conversation, lets pick it back up when (designated date).” But if she is getting flirty.. feel free to respond. Just don’t do it to quickly .. keep it sparse and avoid text walls like they are the plague.
/r/seduction16/05/19 08:53 PM
1

Skip the 48 rules stuff for now... it’s neat but you really need to have a pretty strong context to make use of it. The Game is nice as a story about a very interesting time in PUA but the actual info it provides outside of it’s narrative is only skimming the surface.... and providing a rather Listen to models on loop till wed and you’ll do waaaaay better than trying to use direct PUA on someone you basically already have a warm approach with... learn to walk before you try to run.
/r/seduction16/05/19 08:48 PM
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Have a serious relationship when you want. PUA isn’t about chasing the high for most people. It’s about having options. Once you cut out all the fun lingo and cheerleading about being a “player” It’s about seeing a person you may want as a partner and being able to have a reasonably high chance of getting to know them better... and doing that as many or as few times as you want... in as many different ways as you want.. with as many or as few people as you want at the same time.
/r/seduction16/05/19 08:42 PM
1

Read Models by Mark Manson.. or grab it on audible.
/r/seduction16/05/19 08:29 PM
1

Also agree on slow and low. You don’t have to talk like you are on Ambian. Make sure you are easy to understand and Pause for dramatic effect for a few seconds every once in a while.
/r/seduction16/05/19 08:22 PM
1

Not really. PUA isn’t the dark and secret art it used to be and nothing screams needy male playing at being a PUA then extreme peacocking. Look fashionable, make sure you match and wear clothes that are comfortable but fit well. Be comfortable in your own skin before trying to add in a boa or nipple tassels lol. Mystery is still fine but I would suggest building your inner game with Models first then go into more traditional PUA to fill in that gaps in your baseline game. If your inner game is o…
/r/seduction16/05/19 08:19 PM
1

Why the hell would someone pay YOU for a pirated ebook? I hope you get sued.
/r/seduction16/05/19 08:00 PM
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Doesn’t matter. Comedians will practice their jokes on many, many people to get them just right. Nobody is going to think you thought of a good, well polished joke on the spot. If someone gets aggro because you’ve told the same joke to DIFFERENT people then great! Disqualify them and move on.
/r/seduction16/05/19 07:59 PM
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Why would a less physically attractive woman talk to you? Probably the same answer. She gave you an opening for a conversation and you didn’t take it... she doesn’t know anything about you yet so don’t look into it to much.
/r/seduction16/05/19 07:57 PM
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Disqualify for major red flags... not because of your long term expectations. If you havent had many LTR then do you actually know what you want? Most of us know about as much about our wants at 50 as we did at 15... which is jack shit. We change over time. The only way to learn is to give it a swing and enjoy yourself now... find out what you do and don’t like now. Worry about what you think you’ll want later, later.
/r/seduction16/05/19 07:53 PM
1

No marketing, fool. Never mind piracy.
/r/seduction16/05/19 07:42 PM
10

Just dm him. You have nothing to lose and what other possibility do you have?
/r/seduction16/05/19 05:50 PM
1

If it’s been three years then befriending isn’t working for you. Just tell her and move one.
/r/seduction16/05/19 02:41 AM
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I didn’t read every word. Formatting is you friend. Tell her how you feel but don’t expect much. you are doing this out of respect. Then let it die if you actually care for her she can be happy without you. In the future you need to act and make your intentions known. The path towards a romantic relationship is not to be her girlfriend. It’s great to have friends that are women but if you care for them you will be doing it as a friend, honestly and not in conflict with your insecure desire to sn…
/r/seduction16/05/19 02:10 AM
2

Work on your inner game. You’re overthinking it.
/r/seduction16/05/19 02:05 AM
1

You got substantial answers earlier. Why are you reposting?
/r/seduction16/05/19 02:04 AM
3

Why can’t I upvote this more?!
/r/seduction16/05/19 02:03 AM
1

You need to have your inner game down like a Jedi if you wan’t women to chase you using JUST your body language and presentation..... Or you could save yourself a bunch of time and read Models along with The Charisma Myth. Then you get really impatient and start walking up to women first. Then you get pretty cool with that and actually learn to hold a conversation. Then you get to pick and choose which girlfriend gets which night. Then you become a feminist. Then you let them figure it out among…
/r/seduction16/05/19 01:51 AM
1

Read Models. Then start looking into more traditional PUA.
/r/seduction16/05/19 01:45 AM
1

If you aren’t interested then don’t pursue. If you are feeling shitty about turning her down and needing to be direct about it..... Well then imagine what most women feel on a daily basis :P. What would you want her to do if the shoe was on the other foot and she wasn’t interested in you?
/r/seduction16/05/19 01:45 AM
0

Read Models. Lol.
/r/seduction16/05/19 01:42 AM
4

lol. You’re fine. As long as they are adults. In my early 30s I’ve been with women that were 20 that had their mental acuity more together then women i’ve been with that were pushing 40.
/r/seduction16/05/19 01:36 AM
1

Bouncing between seeming interested and not interested. Being spontaneous with your emotions.. kinda. It’s basically just pacing.
/r/seduction16/05/19 12:32 AM
1

“I’m sorry I acted inappropriately. I never meant to cross your boundaries.” Head off to HR and nip it in the bud.
/r/seduction15/05/19 11:03 PM
1

We shall agree to disagree and I fully empathize with your opinion even if we dont share it.
/r/seduction15/05/19 10:55 PM
2

Seriously.. don’t shit where you sleep :P. Think about what you’ll have to lose if you start being a dick about it? Jealousy is natural but excessive jealousy is a symptom of being insecure and not right in your own house(head).
/r/seduction15/05/19 10:50 PM
4

When was the last time you came up behind her and grabbed her hips and kissed her neck.... then just walked away telling her you’re going out and will be back in a few. when was the last time you told her “I want to fuck your brains out?” Our of the blue? When was the last time she turned you down for sex and you DIDN’T whine about it.... and just said “That’s cool.” And went into the other room to do something else?
/r/seduction15/05/19 10:48 PM
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That’s not a theory.. That’s scientific fact. Women like sex.. if not more... then men. Her not jumping his bones is more likely because of him. It’s not on her to driving sexual tension and be aroused at the drop of a hat. Humans can also have sexual feelings for multiple people at the same time so that kinda kills your “she’s cheating” argument. You are ready to blame her but why not him? Everything he has said has made him seem like a needy guy that has gotten too comfortable in a relationshi…
/r/seduction15/05/19 10:45 PM
1

I can have two women teach me better sex for way less than that :P.
/r/seduction15/05/19 10:37 PM
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Problem 1: You need to internalize what you’ve consumed in terms of inner game as a way of getting you out into the field. Going for the more intricate shit from problem 2 all in one go will not work.. at least not very quickly. You need to practice bits and pieces. All that stuff is doing is making you more aware and listen better so you can keep communication going. You are telegraphing your inner game as it were... You are telegraphing your attraction. We like to think we are being clever but…
/r/seduction15/05/19 10:02 PM
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Great! Then keep at it :P. Why wait to tomorrow? Go out now. The best girlfriend you will ever have in your life cold be walking past your front door as you read this and you will never know because you didn’t ask.
/r/seduction15/05/19 09:24 PM
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Yup.. Just don’t try to blame feminism and we’ll get along fine ;). We can’t blame women for asserting themselves. The beauty of feminism is choice. Nothing less and nothing more. Blame the weak men that couldn’t handle the competition or ride the wave... those were men telling you to keep your head down and shut up because they were scared. The 1950’s leave it to beaver bullshit that told you that if you hold a woman for a door she will marry you in three weeks. Think about that for a moment. I…
/r/seduction15/05/19 09:23 PM
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You would think... But even the women I see in their 30s-40s practically have their brains explode when I tell them all the little things “nice guys” do isn’t just to be nice... Men I know in their 50s are still doing the same broken shit they were doing in high school because every few years it works and validates their whole process. Different priorities/considerations... same problems :D
/r/seduction15/05/19 08:39 PM
1

I give the ladies good poops.
/r/seduction15/05/19 08:33 PM
1

Which lessons? You’ve got several different schools of seduction and PUA floating around here. That’s why its VITAL to get your inner shit worked out first. There is so much information in the world and if you don’t have a strong foundation you will either fall over or becoming structurally unsound. Now that you are feeling like an asshole I’m betting you want to send her a long text wall apologizing? Don’t do it. Keep your head down and move forward. Show her that you’ve become a better person …
/r/seduction15/05/19 08:33 PM
1

Wow.. give up. Sounds like you are both completely in the wrong headspace for this one. You waited to long to make your intentions clear. this relationship will be toxic if it ever does recover. Assuming she is lying is being needy. Review your inner game workbook and then return to share with the class.
/r/seduction15/05/19 08:29 PM
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You need to pay attention to the context. Women have been socialized differently than men so what they see as just a friendly touch men think “It’s go time!!!” In a club or on a date this may be the case but in a professional/platonic setting... nope. Either way. Don’t mess with married or taken women. Even if they are all about it do you really want to be involved with that inevitable mess? If it graduates to a LTR do you honestly think you wouldn’t have or be able to deal with the jealousy?
/r/seduction15/05/19 08:27 PM
1

“How do you say ‘Take me now?’”
/r/seduction15/05/19 08:18 PM
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If you want validation you are in the wrong place. You life with girls is literally over because you are thinking like an incel. Women don’t want a project man-child that they need to constantly validate. I’m fat, work a basic job , and am far from tall. Incels make me sick and I have no love or desire to make them into better people. I already have to turn down two women a week on average. What makes you think I have time for a guy that want’s to blame the world for his own insecurity? Bad news…
/r/seduction15/05/19 08:12 PM
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Do NOT use emojis. Are you trying to be a man for her or a teenager?
/r/seduction15/05/19 08:04 PM
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How many of these incel, needy guy, beta posts are you going to make? Fuck off, I’m getting tired of muting all of your stupid accounts.
/r/seduction15/05/19 07:54 PM
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And this my friends is the high school douche that would make fun of you and is now crying alone in a jail cell for that “awesome” party he went to in college.
/r/seduction15/05/19 07:50 PM
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Learn female anatomy and stop looking at men’s junk...unless that’s your thing.
/r/seduction15/05/19 07:49 PM
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Don’t use too much lol. If you want a pro tip: Wear a small amount of women’s perfume.
/r/seduction15/05/19 07:44 PM
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Seriously, “Hey, since we are already going to Prom together want to make sure we don’t hate each other and go bowling?”’ Then go ask r/dating lol. Good luck. We’ll be here when you are ready to escalate lol.
/r/seduction15/05/19 07:43 PM
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First of all. You made he feel crappy. You wished her a happy birthday then immediately asked her out. You gave her a nice compliment and then from her perspective you attempted to use your “niceness” as a bargaining chip. It’s easier to leave someone on read then have to deal with turning down a “nice guy.” Putting someone in your story just to hopefully make them jealous is pretty shitty to do to the person you are using as a prop. Make your intentions clear to both of them and now you are hig…
/r/seduction15/05/19 07:40 PM
1

Seriously, just be direct at this point. Tell him what you want. If he is unwilling or unable to give you what you want sexually then move on.... quickly and make that clear. he will either reciprocate. Run back to you after things have set in, or you two will move apart. Make him chase you as another post has stated quite clearly. Remind him what it was like to chase girls in his early 20s and the rewards that came with it. No pun intended.
/r/seduction15/05/19 07:24 PM
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Lol.
/r/seduction15/05/19 07:13 PM
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Treat them like women. Your game still applies. Don’t be needy.
/r/seduction15/05/19 07:05 PM
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Self improvement and inner game are not the same thing. That has been coopted by the new batch of PUA marketing gurus. Inner game is you actively understanding and internalizing what behaviors you have that are attractive and those that aren’t attractive. When fully embraced things like the approach or having a conversation become infinitely easier and can very quickly become second nature. If you are even considering your height in the equation(just by mentioning it you show that it’s on your m…
/r/seduction15/05/19 07:04 PM
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You don’t need to know what to say. She’ll say it for you. You just need to learnt o listen to them with intent. For example. She says she has 3 dogs. “How do you manage to keep track of them?(gives her a moment to start thinking of something to say but you are about to tell her something more interesting). My uncle had this gorgeous wolf/huskie mix when I was little. I may maybe two feet tall and that dog would do anything for me. My parents still joke that I was actually raised by wolves.” Tru…
/r/seduction15/05/19 04:21 PM
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Tinder is like the high school yearbook. Nobody there is representational of their reality. It’s fun to poke around but I’ll have much more success in 1 hour on the town. Not sure what you mean by “risk.” Risk in getting rejected? Nothing wrong with rejection ;). I don’t think I would describe confidence and boldness as the same things. Guys can peacock all they want but that aspect is going to fall apart pretty quick when they actually have to engage if they don’t have their inner game up to pa…
/r/seduction12/05/19 11:40 PM
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Oh, clubs in a major city are a totally different experience lol. I would go there to dance but if I wanted a date I would hit up the line going in or the coffee shop around the corner :P.
/r/seduction12/05/19 10:54 PM
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Lol. You don’t need to wait for an IOI to approach. Eye contact and a smile is enough. They are rooting for you and want you to approach. They likes you enough that as far as they knew they were basically yelling at you to come talk to them. I can get not being in the mood but lets be real... aint it fun ;). When ever I’m feeling like that I know it’s just me making an excuse. The second i push through it I have orders of magnitude more fun. You don’t need to expect anything or want to take anyb…
/r/seduction12/05/19 09:52 PM
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Play to the demographic you want to attract. Diamonds are valuable but they are far from rare. Their supply if very carefully controlled. The problem with peacocking is that it’s generally done from a very insecure place. It screams. GIVE ME ATTENTION! I NEED ATTENTION! 9 times out of 10. Creepy ness comes from when there is a disconnect between how you look, behave and carry yourself with what you are wanting from the interaction. If your game is strong enough to make use of peacocking properly…
/r/seduction12/05/19 09:43 PM
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Sounds good! Not all women are going to be receptive and that’s okay. You sacked up and tried. At least now you won’t ever think back to the moment and think “I wish I had made a move.”
/r/seduction12/05/19 08:49 PM
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Be the most sober person in the group. Ask open ended questions. Don’t wait more than a few seconds to approach after getting eye contact and a smile. Keep talking... even about random stuff to keep the conversation going. Don’t..let.. the .. conversation.. die.
/r/seduction12/05/19 08:33 PM
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Yup, welcome to the world of inner game. It’s the one thing they can universally get right because it’s so effing important and even scientifically tested in various forms. As for the dancing... Did this last Monday night. A small pack of velociraptor rich guys trying to sarge were out and about at one of my local haunts. Literally every woman they approached and tried to brag about being wealthy and own restaurants drifted their dance moves over to me. The snowball effect was appreciated and I …
/r/seduction12/05/19 08:30 PM
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Bit direct. Be confident. To be honest.. it does sound like she is seeing you on the side. Don’t be too needy. Take a few days apart. Figure out what you really want and communicate that as much as you can without words. Your going to need to let her be in charge of the pacing of the relationship.
/r/seduction12/05/19 07:47 PM
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Yeah you tried and that is what counts. Don’t over think the opener and keep at it. You would be amazed how infrequently actual 10s get approached. Try to have the first thing you say start with either. “What” or “How”(but avoid asking about the day or general shit..). Ask “How” something works.
/r/seduction12/05/19 07:39 PM
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Men gatekeeper sex too lol. I turned two down this week. If you think women are the sole gatekeepers then you are a needy guy, making excuses and desperately trying to shift the blame for your failures. I believe that’s what you would call a Beta, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 07:31 PM
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And they do.... When they don’t put out your call them feminists(as if that was an insult lol). When they do put out you call them whores. Red and black pills just get pissed off when women don’t want to be your mothers and want YOU to accept at least the same amount of responsibility they have. How well has the red pill been working for you? Did you call your mother today? I’m sure she is worried about you.... or do you resent her too?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 07:19 PM
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But if women are inferior and easily manipulated wouldn’t the responsibility be on the superior man for taking advantage of such a fragile creature? You can’t have it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 06:57 PM
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Lol why are kids always saying “slide into DMs”. You may as well be saying “Hi, I’m to insecure to talk to you in person so i’m going to call your carefully curated photos attractive(no shit, that’s the point).” It’s called approaching her. A) she just added you because or a relevant hashtag and people like following people just to get more followers. B) she is interested in seeing more from you. C) it’s instagram... who cares ;). It’s that black mirror episode made real. All of these scenarios …
/r/seduction12/05/19 05:05 PM
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you don’t. Go out solo. Talk to women and get a wing woman ;). This is where it can be a benefit to utilize and mutual friendzone. Can spike your attraction from any girl in a 10 mile radius when you enter a space with attractive and confident women already at your side.
/r/seduction12/05/19 02:06 AM
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“I’m pretty busy for a while. I have some time tonight. come over and watch a movie., but i need to be up early, so no funny stuff.”
/r/seduction12/05/19 01:36 AM
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Yup. It happens. It’s that a bad thing really? If you arent attracted to someone then why have sex with them? You are in a position of access so you arent driven been scarcity. While most men are trying to lap up any little bit of water they can in a desert(and act like it) you are free to walk the jungle and drink at your own pace... you know where the safe water sources are.
/r/seduction11/05/19 10:14 PM
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Honestly? You could be making an excuse not to carry it further. If you didn’t want more then why would you have talked to them in the first place? Are you thinking “i want to date and fuck!” When you motivate yourself to go in the field or are you thinking “I just want her to show me a sexy pic!” You could have some deep seeded performance anxiety.
/r/seduction11/05/19 08:11 PM
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BOWLING!!
/r/seduction11/05/19 08:08 PM
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Be confident, be respectful and alert. Any guy your age is probably going to have almost no confidence compared to you if you put half an ounce of effort. You can be a bit more bold at festivals as well.... in-fact you have to be because of all the distractions going on. Dress for the demographic you want to attract but always make sure your clothes FIT.
/r/seduction11/05/19 08:07 PM
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Yes you can approach women at the gym. Go to these venues on a slow night. usually they are happy to kill some time and talk to a guy that understands they are working. Talk shop. Ask them for tips on how to make a certain drink or bar tending in general. For any service industry worker you can ask them if they pool their tips.... would you rather work hourly.. ect. These questions in this context can easily lead to more personal conversations.
/r/seduction11/05/19 07:02 PM
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Lol. No. Porn is hard work. The men don’t get paid much and imagine the stress of getting an STI test every morning? The sex is pretty shallow most of the time.
/r/seduction11/05/19 05:44 PM
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Short answer: Women don’t have the same priorities on physical looks as men do. Men are projecting their own values on to women. Looks matter but it is a TINY fraction of the big picture.
/r/seduction11/05/19 05:36 PM
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Don’t be afraid to bring a small note book either if it help break down what you’ve done right or wrong. Each interaction contains a vast wealth of information if you are willing to reflect on yourself and appreciate others.
/r/seduction11/05/19 05:29 PM
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Most of those videos are crap. Here is the secret: The BEST possible text game you can have is no text game. Keep it light and use it for making plans. The less needy you are the better your text game will be. Don’t text wall. Don’t respond to quickly. Ect. As for being needy... Read Models.
/r/seduction11/05/19 05:25 PM
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And it’s 100x more fun!
/r/seduction11/05/19 05:18 PM
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And this folk; is a masterclass in projection. I hope you’re all taking notes.
/r/seduction11/05/19 01:21 AM
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That sounds pretty good. Take it day by day. Always see if there is a way you can polarize her for a little more attraction. Just be on the lookout for red flags. Don’t look too hard though or you may start manufacturing some that aren’t there.
/r/seduction11/05/19 01:17 AM
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Good for you! Well since that’s not an option. A text along the line of “hey, (so and so) gave me your number. Got a minute?” Don’t have much to lose.
/r/seduction11/05/19 12:57 AM
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Lol. His personal life was being negatively impacted by his obsession. That’s not healthy in any context. Recognizing an imbalance like that shows a great deal of maturity. He also never said he was sexless. I think you are projecting yourself a bit there ;). Did I say it was that easy? No. But it can help. You salty? Oooooh tell us grand poobah of the conquests of your obviously huge and not at all needing to compensate penis!
/r/seduction11/05/19 12:49 AM
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Don’t use it. Unless she gave her friend permission it’s generally safest to just not use information unless given directly. Try to add on facebook or insta and get the number through there asap. Don’t fall message to much or too frequently. Get her number to CALL it.
/r/seduction11/05/19 12:43 AM
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You may have negged a bit too much. But I think you pinpointed the real issue yourself. If you can describe something as clunky that can set off a major red flag for her because she will pick up on that and suddenly sense that you are acting and begin questioning if you were acting the entire time. BUT, sometimes women do actually just have boyfriends and thank god they are usually faithful. Would you want to continue things with a woman that has no qualms about cheating on a LTR with a guy she …
/r/seduction11/05/19 12:34 AM
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Bravo! Took me years and a lot of lows and highs to figure this out. Ironically, once you can internalize that dating doesn’t have to be your ultimate priority you instantly become much more attractive.
/r/seduction11/05/19 12:24 AM
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Yup. 🥰 How i kiss lady? I touch boob?
/r/seduction11/05/19 12:06 AM
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🧐😖😊😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😅. oooh that’s rich. He has some great tips on voice tonality but that’s about it. his canned material is pretty ridiculous. If you really appreciate him then maybe considering buying his material? I just wouldn’t suggest it.
/r/seduction11/05/19 12:02 AM
1

Did you check fetlife for any munches or unicorn gatherings? When unicorn hunting try to have your girlfriend make the approach while you are doing something else.
/r/seduction10/05/19 11:56 PM
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Lol. Be genuine and don’t do it just because you think it will make her like you more. Even something like getting caught up in wether or not you are “beta” or “alpha.” Can really screw up your inner game and make you come off as well.. “beta”/Needy. That will play into your body language when you do give that occasional sincere compliment that will make her feel like a million bucks around YOU.
/r/seduction10/05/19 11:53 PM
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Who know’s. It’s really not worth reading. It may have started the community but if it was effective then we wouldn’t have moved on from it so fast.
/r/seduction10/05/19 11:48 PM
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Those last couple episodes really got me ;). Damn fine anime! But, yeah I’m good lol. Getting free dinner after work from a cute waitress. Then have a burlesque show to attend after that and then the after party. Good start to the weekend.
/r/seduction10/05/19 11:24 PM
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Yes, something like that would make you come off as needy. Your begging for a guarantee. you don’t need a guarantee since you are your own man yes? :D. Just let is roll. Keep texting to making plans. Save the emotional baggage for the date ;). Good luck!
/r/seduction10/05/19 11:22 PM
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Alright man, you are taking this waaaaay to personally and missing the point. I wish you luck.
/r/seduction10/05/19 10:52 PM
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I can’t I’m all out of tears. 😟😟😟
/r/seduction10/05/19 10:49 PM
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Provided you aren’t a complete fuckwit or overly needy guy then yeah.. they do actually feel bad when they have to reject a man. Too many men however, mistake themselves fucking up and receiving the consequences as the woman trying to just be mean and hurt them. This is a fine example of insecurity and lack of self awarness. If you haven’t hear a woman regret hurting a man then you must not have many close female friends. Men and women do have the same conscience(assuming that’s what you meant) …
/r/seduction10/05/19 10:45 PM
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You don’t text. Don’t do in text that could be better conveyed in person. If your intentions are genuine they will be picked up in person... In text it’s a crap shoot since they can’t hear your voice, see your body language or look into your eyes. You are missing out on a vast majority of how humans communicate. What you say doesn’t matter as much in person either. As long as you are saying something and not being needy or boring. Don’t ask closed questions. Keep it open ended. In person you are…
/r/seduction10/05/19 10:33 PM
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Whatever gets you off man :). Older women have a fuck ton of experience, don’t want to or have the time to play games or go through trying to shit test guys AND they aim to please.
/r/seduction10/05/19 10:29 PM
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You said you think she is judging you via instagram metrics then you went on a rant about how disrespectful that it. How is that not making up a story or projecting you past experiences on to what is a blank slate until you get to know them better? Why should another person’s action from several years punish a totally unrelated person? The only thing these people have in common is you.
/r/seduction10/05/19 10:16 PM
1

Sounds like we’ve had the same experience before. Yeah, if she flakes again I would just give up. Nobody deserves to be treated like that even if she is just shit testing you to see if you are still needy or not. If you want to apply some silly game: Ask her if you can push the meetup back a little bit. If you need a reason” there are some things i’de like to get done before” then go get a haircut and buy yourself dinner :P. Show her you aren’t totally invested in this get together. Either she’l…
/r/seduction10/05/19 10:11 PM
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Sounds like she has changed and matured. Don’t have conversation you could have in person for text. If she flakes on you don’t blow up her phone as much as you want to. Keep it simple and tight like “Oh, that’s cool. Maybe some other time.” Be honest with you want but try to take things a bit slower than usual when dealing with an ex. There are a lot of built in emotions on both sides which can prevent you from objectively assessing if it’s worth another go. If you intention is just for a hookup…
/r/seduction10/05/19 09:42 PM
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Have you read it and practiced it? I’m sorry you are frustrated but you wanted advice. I didn’t suggest lifting or RSD ;). Don’t knock others because they aren’t stroking your ego for you. Nothing is going to be a magic bullet and your attitude tells me you have a LOT of work to do on your inner game... work on that how you see fit. The only person that actually cares about your virginity is you and how comfortable you are with it. If you actually wanted nice you would go to your mom and she wou…
/r/seduction10/05/19 09:13 PM
1

Being prepared for anything will still boost your confidence. Dressing well and being properly groomed. If you’ve done that then you only need to be worrying about your body language and the other stuff. Women keep themselves pretty tip top and spend quite a bit of time on their appearance even if they aren’t looking. You never know when the next great opportunity is going to be coming around the corner. That’s not being desperate. That’s being self aware and taking care of yourself. Lifting is …
/r/seduction10/05/19 07:55 PM
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You move on :). Give space and avoid following her on social media. Read Models by Mark Manson to help with your neediness.
/r/seduction10/05/19 07:02 PM
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Good. Online dating should be thought of as passive hunting(not that women are prey). You set you traps and only check it once a week. It’s shouldn’t be your primary source of dating. It’s deeply impersonal. Online dating generally only brings the most shallow traits out in us... and women or going to be extra on guard cause they haven’t even had a chance to read your body language to see if you are a safe guy or have been able to vet you in a safe social situation. Ghosting is rejection but you…
/r/seduction10/05/19 06:46 PM
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Read Models by Mark Manson. That is where you begin. Heck you can get a great audio book version of it on audible. Welcome to a wonderful journey. Good on you for asking the right question.
/r/seduction10/05/19 06:33 PM
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Wooooow. Dial it back about 40%. Why hate her? You wanted her number. She didn’t feel comfortable giving you that for whatever reason. You pressed for it again and you are surprised she ghosted you? You opened your direct message trying to make a joke but could have easily been taken as a neg. Negs need to be used very sparingly. The final message you sent to her probably sounds like “Why aren’t you talking to me?!.. I really need to talk to you again!” It’s not hard to give a guy a number or in…
/r/seduction10/05/19 06:31 PM
0

if you know her from school then why not approach her in school? It’s deff. not a cold approach at this point. I realize messaging is fairly safe and seems like you are taking action but women don’t want a guy to play it safe. They want him to be confident and take action. You have nothing to lose. School is only a small and rather petty portion of your life. What’s the worst that can happen? Word gets around you have the guts to walk up to a girl and ask her out? Sounds like a win.
/r/seduction10/05/19 06:11 PM
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Sounds good. Though, she sounds more interested in showing off than anything else. Could be fun for a fling but I wouldn’t invest too much time or mental energy in it.
/r/seduction10/05/19 06:03 PM
1

Without knowing more giving a little distance its probably you best bet. What are you long or short term intentions?
/r/seduction10/05/19 06:01 PM
1

Why would you do that. Sorry had trouble reading your transcript. Either way. Don’t put so much weight on social media in the future.
/r/seduction10/05/19 04:18 PM
3

Sexual anxiety is far more common than you think. You need to relax and have fun. Being afraid of underperforming is a needy reaction to being afraid you will lose that person... this can cause impotence. Relax! She already likes you. You’re pretty much there. If you need to take a moment to breath and calm yourself down then take it. As you know she and you can still have a great time without your penis in her vagina. It’s not the same priority for sex/intimacy for women as it is for men. Try t…
/r/seduction10/05/19 06:40 AM
1

Well have at it! Have a place in mind already. Preferably somewhere near activities you can get distracted with if the coffee gets boring. If she turns you down .. fine... np. If the time doesnt work; don’t press another one. Offer to exchange whatever contact info(if necessary) you would need to setup a plan LATER. Then politely leave.
/r/seduction10/05/19 05:57 AM
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Day 1. Get cleaned up and go out... stand up straight and talk to women. ——> Get date. Day 2.-7. Rest.
/r/seduction10/05/19 05:43 AM
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True story bro. It’s like ... they are looking out for themselves just like men..... and... like.... what men think is manipulation is a very logical approach to dealing with.... and like vetting a potential partner for safety .... and overall emotional/mental fitness(see:safety). BRO!
/r/seduction10/05/19 05:41 AM
2

“I don’t want to study with you. Let’s get a drink before graduation.”
/r/seduction10/05/19 05:36 AM
0

Dating and haven’t kissed????!? How did this escalate so one sidedly? Are you already over invested without even knowing if the two of you are sexually compatible? You sound young so just keep in mind that neither of you have much of an idea of what each other wants in a relationships so take it slow and don’t get overly attached and stuck in a co-dependent nightmare that lots of inexperienced couples fall into.
/r/seduction10/05/19 05:30 AM
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Seriously.... be honest but you should also start getting more busy ;) Try to hold off on responding immediately all the time. Create a little tension now and then. It’s good for both of you to still have communication space even if you are geographically impaired. Men will go into panic mode when they don’t get communication when they expect it. Women will be intrigued... a little anxious but mostly excited.... and always grateful when they don’t have to worry about becoming the center of a man…
/r/seduction10/05/19 05:25 AM
1

If you want to find the real old farts that have been around for an unhealthy amount of time you should be asking for a PUG ;)
/r/seduction10/05/19 05:19 AM
1

Should have instagrammed her back a profile of just cute animals. “There, now we are even. Want to meet up?”
/r/seduction10/05/19 05:16 AM
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Not sure what stage of the relationship you are at but you may want to make yourself scarce. If she’s shit testing you its to see how needy you get and if she can handle it. If she isn’t then do you really want to deal with an emotional state you don’t enjoy. Two months isn’t a lot and something like that, this early could be a red flag... or it could be something you are willing to accept... but something tells me that’s not the case by the way you are describing things. If you don’t really car…
/r/seduction10/05/19 05:02 AM
0

Yeah, what this guy says. Read Models. Can we just get a sticky of this? I feel like it covers 80% of the AFC questions in here.
/r/seduction10/05/19 04:48 AM
0

I feel your pain but this is the wrong sub for this.
/r/seduction10/05/19 04:46 AM
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Ask open ended questions. If they still respond with one or two words they are either not interested or not very intelligent. Either one you should pass on.
/r/seduction10/05/19 04:43 AM
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Approach the group. Game the entire group :P. Recruit them into a wing woman squad. If they all like you they will be fine not jumping in the way of you getting their friend away. If you want to go the PUA route then you focus on your “second pick.” Then slowly shift attention.
/r/seduction10/05/19 01:26 AM
4

Social proof is good but not essential. It may feel strange at first but nothing wrong with going out and meeting new people. “I’m new to the area. What’s the best place for (insert activity, food, ect)” Is a great way to have conversations that you can’t really get away with otherwise.
/r/seduction10/05/19 01:19 AM
2

“How long before I regret not taking action sooner?”
/r/seduction10/05/19 01:00 AM
1

Ask her directly to go out. Have a plan. Texted for 3 days is where you went wrong. All of those amazing conversations you should have save or had for when you were in person. Think about that for a moment. Keep texting/messaging to making plans. The longer you try to text her to “talk” before waiting for that precious and perfect moment to ask her out the less attractive you become. What is a more confident text? If you were a guy looking from the outside in... which do you think a woman is goi…
/r/seduction09/05/19 11:31 PM
1

God no never use that line lol.
/r/seduction09/05/19 11:24 PM
1

Compliments are fine as long as you aren’t just using it for filler for conversation. Even if it’s genuine this can be a pretty easy trap to fall into when dating a very attractive woman.
/r/seduction09/05/19 11:22 PM
1

Don’t use information she hasn’t provided you herself or without her consent. Especially if she is already shy. As much as I hate it.. friending her on facebook may be your best option. Don’t use it to chat her up. Ask her out asap. Or if you are feeling savvy you could ask her where she works.. suggest you swing by for a pastry or something and THEN ask her out. Don’t just show up. You can be confident and direct without seeming like a stalker.
/r/seduction09/05/19 11:13 PM
1

That is something I do not have the time to write out here lol. I could say things like “having her hair brushed away from her neck.” But that’s only the tip of the iceberg for just that. Which side matters. How her head is tilted matters... are her shoulders pointing toward you or away from you in that context? Is she exposing her back to show skin or you turn farther away from you in a posture that looks like she is comfortable or about to spring out of her chair. MANY books have been written …
/r/seduction09/05/19 10:46 PM
0

It’s their job. No game here.
/r/seduction09/05/19 09:08 PM
0

Not a self esteem boost. Literally their job description.
/r/seduction09/05/19 09:07 PM
0

Lol. It’s literally in their training to sit down at the table and talk to the customer when able..... push their social media presence ect. To get return customers. How much of a tip did you give her? That’s your answer.
/r/seduction09/05/19 09:06 PM
1

Sooooo how is this different from pirating this shitty material?
/r/seduction09/05/19 09:04 PM
1

Yup. Welcome to inner game.
/r/seduction09/05/19 08:54 PM
4

What are the chances that all of these posts from guys constantly complaining about their job and complaining that women make more than them are from multiple people? Pretty low. Seriously dude. We get it. You are insecure as hell. Stop trying to invest yourself in people you meet on a language app. Can we get this guy permabanned?
/r/seduction09/05/19 08:50 PM
1

Generally... no if it’s in the air. You should be decisive but run some research if you are unfamiliar with the area. If she already has a placed picked however then go for it. If it’s just drinks don’t need to overthink it much.
/r/seduction09/05/19 08:47 PM
1

“What’s your favorite thing about this town?” Anything that can’t be answered with a yes, no, or single word that can’t be followed up with another question or your own opinion.
/r/seduction09/05/19 08:10 PM
1

If your presence is strong enough and you recognize they are pursuing you something along the lines of “I need to be your (action)(derogatory name for self)” Is not foreign to me. But I’m also a Dom so that’s actually par for the course when I’m vetting a new sub. But when I’m out for a vanilla night I’ll settle for them buying me drinks. Depends on the venue mate. But you don’t need to worry about that now. If you can’t even navigate a vanilla relationship don’t even THINK about having polyamor…
/r/seduction09/05/19 08:07 PM
1

Give her a few hours then ask her to go out. Keep it direct. She doesn’t want to and doesn’t offer an alternative plan if available then say “That’s cool, I’ll talk to you later.” And be done. By giving her a few hours you aren’t trying to play her emotions at all. You are showing her that you don’t need immediate contact with her and thusly are less needy.
/r/seduction09/05/19 07:49 PM
0

No lol. Ask your doctor :P.
/r/seduction09/05/19 02:29 AM
1

Milk is okay. Stick to proteins and fats in the morning. You’ll be burning them off through that day.
/r/seduction09/05/19 02:19 AM
1

Work out and have a good breakfast. Seriously.
/r/seduction09/05/19 01:46 AM
5

Bail. If she cheats on her boyfriend how could you have any faith she wont cheat on you? Wait it out and immediately make a move if they breakup if you care that much.
/r/seduction09/05/19 01:11 AM
1

In general.. you don’t The sooner you get out in the field and start showing that you can handle other women the sooner your chances improve dramatically. This can actually have a snowball effect. But the catch is that you wont have the same desire to get out of the friend zone. If you still want to them then you will not have to try much beyond showing your intent pretty explicitly.
/r/seduction09/05/19 01:09 AM
2

What are you looking for? Be honest... honestly. It’s fuckin’ Tinder. Not the girl of your dreams at your friends wedding. She could be the girl of your dreams but wouldn’t that require honesty anyway?
/r/seduction09/05/19 12:50 AM
6

Eye contact in a non “i want to wear your faaaace!” Way is almost always positive. As long as you are doing it because you are actually interested in the conversation and arent just sitting there waiting to get a word in. Back straight. Shoulders back. Feet apart. Hands outside of your pockets. Don’t fidget. Don’t pick at your self. Don’t clench your fists.... ect. Ect. Push and pull are essential in general. We could have whole books written on just that. Pacing in general is almost considered …
/r/seduction08/05/19 11:18 PM
1

Didn’t see three. Loved two. If I was a girl I would have answered with “No.” Then I would have returned to texting.
/r/seduction08/05/19 11:07 PM
15

Turning rejections into wing-women. ;) “Let’s just be friends.” Can be a great doorway to have wing partners if you don’t over do it. Women love competition after all 🙃.
/r/seduction08/05/19 11:04 PM
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I presented myself as a sexual person... I didn’t try to hide that I thought women were attractive and would want to sleep with them... BUT I also made sure that they knew i genuinely just had fun spending time with them and being myself. Actually took 5 women out of the “friendzone” in three days doing this(strong enough intention and body language is just about the closest thing to a Jedi mind trick a PUA has at their disposal). I wasn’t creepy about it. I didn’t get all teary eyed and wimpy a…
/r/seduction08/05/19 09:33 PM
1

Yeah no. If you’ve seen each other a few times over a long period of time and you haven’t approached you are done.... or may as well be. best case she sees you as just another dude that may or may not be interested in her but doesn’t have the confidence to talk to her... which means you are out of the game. Worst case she is anxious because you are creeping on her. She knows when you are looking at her or checking her out. keep this in mind. That’s why its so important to approach someone early.…
/r/seduction08/05/19 09:23 PM
2

It’s what most of us do. We fail to realize that just about every woman we meet who is looking for a partner is hoping that we can hold our shit together long enough for both parties to make an actual assessment.
/r/seduction08/05/19 09:06 PM
2

Yup. He’s either intimidated or insecure. Even the sexiest guy you’ve ever seen will have anxiety when dealing with a beautiful woman. Every little thing he nitpicks about himself in private he is terrified you will do the same to him. Move on. I doubt he is confident enough to be running any sort of game on you. if he was he would have setup a time for a date in the first few minutes of the phone call. He’s wanting you to make the first move again and that could turn into a cycle pretty easily.…
/r/seduction08/05/19 07:57 PM
1

Women can seduce too and it’s not common knowledge. Many of the same legitimate skills men seek to use on women, women can apply to men. Real seduction skills used to build solid relationships or have a rewarding and sexy romp are unisex. Girlfriends as most women know can give just as shitty and self serving advice as most dudes will give to each other. How is this not for r/seduction ?
/r/seduction08/05/19 07:52 PM
1

Read Models to start.... then stop. Apply what you will learn, find the gaps and seek out information sincerely to fill those gaps in.
/r/seduction08/05/19 07:47 PM
1

Everyday you two are going to be seeing new and interesting things. That should give you plenty to talk about. Don’t ask her things like “Do you like this.” Ask open ended questions that are relevant for the location you are at. ESPECIALLY if she is having a good time.
/r/seduction08/05/19 07:45 PM
1

Or you could not care about warmup and making excuses and just go on yonder to the bright green field. Unless!! Unless you are trying to sell me something. 😂😂🤣🤣
/r/seduction08/05/19 07:06 PM
0

Karaoke night at your local bar. Seriously. If you are wanting to use social media for dating that tells me your person to person game is seriously lacking and you are looking for an excuse to not go out there into the field and get rejected and learn.
/r/seduction08/05/19 07:04 PM
4

I understand your frustration. Virginity is not the source of your problems. How you view women is. The only reason men think women care that much about looks is because men care that much about looks. Let that set in. How can men think women are so different but still think they have the same priorities as men when it comes to dating and relationships? You think women are judging you in the way you judge them. Which means you are putting words in their head or imagining what they think before y…
/r/seduction08/05/19 06:27 PM
1

Would you hate me if I said that I think you are putting to much weight on your position in life with job/finances ect. ? Do you think you would have less or more success if you had less or worse money? Answer: probably the same. The best advice I can give you is to fuck off with the social media and online dating crap. Sure you can have a profile but that shouldn’t be your primary source of meeting people. Approaching is hard and there are millions of things that can go wrong with it..... but i…
/r/seduction08/05/19 06:20 PM
3

You aren’t a mind reader no matter how much of one you think you are. Even if you were you are still coming off as extremely desperate. Your belief that you are connecting is preventing you from actually learning about people and making them feel comfortable around you. “She ruined it” is just about the most needy and narcissistic attitude. Women an smell this mindset from a mile away. On top of that it will make self reflection extremely difficult for you which makes betting better at seduction…
/r/seduction08/05/19 06:11 PM
1

How the hell is this being downvoted?
/r/seduction08/05/19 06:01 PM
1

Interesting model but you are treading on dangerous ground. Women don’t want to be their boyfriends mothers. You wrote a lot here to get to a fairly simple point. Most men reading this could easily miss the point. yes it’s very possible to me immensely confident AND needy at the same time. This is not what people need to be working towards. kill neediness first then worry about how to give yourself a relatable model to develop confidence.
/r/seduction08/05/19 05:47 PM
1

Being too nice regardless of intention will set off alarm bells and throw up all sorts of red flags... especially for very attractive women. Try looking at it from her perspective. How many people do you think she meets on the daily that go out of their way to be nice. How many of those people are actually mucking it up because it’s clear they are just trying to get into her pants. I’m a nice fellow too. But I can go out to a bar and have a good time for myself. The women will be approached cons…
/r/seduction08/05/19 05:43 PM
0

Lol seriously. Here is my patented The Modern Rake texting mastery advice. DON’T FUCKING TEXT. Make plans and move on. If someone is trying to sell you texting mastery they are marketing to your desire to not have to approach or talk to women directly in order to build attraction. Feel free to PM me to get my paypal so you can give me cash for this sage advice.
/r/seduction08/05/19 05:21 PM
1

Well. Now you know exactly why she is mad. You could apologize for this with a VERY brief message and acknowledge that you fucked up. But you did one of the biggest things women fear and that can have slow and long term side effects. Neediness can snowball and crush a relationship or seduction in about 1/10 of the time it took her to become attracted to you in the first place. “ I love my time with my friends too and I shouldn’t be jealous of yours when you want to spend time with them. I’ll see…
/r/seduction08/05/19 05:05 PM
1

Great that you are getting dates! If your body language isn’t totally on point somedays for whatever reason but your inner game is rock solid that will still come through in very subtle ways like; how you hold yourself, sit, not fidgeting ect. When I was full 100% in the game one day I gave myself a shitty ass fucking haircut but didn’t care. I went out with my wingwoman at the time and literally had women asking ME if they could buy me a drink. I didn’t even make an approach that night because …
/r/seduction08/05/19 04:52 PM
1

Strong IOI ? Nope. IOI. Yup. She is interested in seeing if you are confident enough to approach her. She gambles that you aren’t and seems to be proven correct. Who cares if my assessment is wrong or right? The only reason men think women only like assholes is because by far assholes approach women more and have way more confidence than most men.... that would rather wait for a perfect storm for FOMO. Ironically. Unless YOU are at work or something professional like that then there is next to n…
/r/seduction08/05/19 04:21 PM
5

Dudes totally a troll. And a dumb one at that. how many shitty accounts with no karma and a two day life span can talk about meeting women “using language apps”. And constantly try to brag about how rich they(the women) are. Kid has problems and only wants advice like “SMASH AND PASS BRO!!”
/r/seduction08/05/19 04:15 PM
1

I humbly disagree on her having zero filter but agree on some red flags... though overall I think she knows exactly what she is doing. She is trying to filter him out. She knows she holds all the cards and given our boys relative lack of experience and her relatively large amount of experience she isn’t worried about losing out on another “needy” guy that will respond to her crap about exes with the opposite to seem like such a good guy. She sounds like she could be an EPIC wing woman but I woul…
/r/seduction08/05/19 04:13 PM
2

You don’t. They could be trying to just get your attention to validate themselves. People do this to eachother all the time regardless of gender. How many hundreds of followers to some people that you know in real life have on instagram? Humans can’t actually maintain that many friendships.
/r/seduction08/05/19 04:01 PM
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Wait it out and go out and have fun. Try to get some pictures of you having fun on facebook with your friends if you want to go a slightly more manipulative approach. She want’s you to be your own person so show that you can be. Don’t get caught up when women don’t text you back. They have lives too and sometimes they just get busy. It sucks. I know from experience but KNOWING the right thing to do is to step back helped me considerably. Just because you’ve been seeing eachother for a week.. mon…
/r/seduction08/05/19 03:57 PM
1

What are you doing with these numbers? Are you getting dates from them? Hook ups? If not then why keep hoarding numbers. That’s only one small part of the game. Night before last when I went out I made two approaches. Got two numbers. Went home with one of them. Didn’t have sex as I determined I didn’t want to sleep with her lol(different likes). BUT. I gained a VERY high value wing woman. You shouldn’t be trying hard at this point. You practice the posture and all the crap until it’s just insti…
/r/seduction08/05/19 03:01 PM
2

Tinder is tinder... It’s not seduction. Go out into the field to get real experience. When you start it’s easy to look at it as a numbers game but it’s really not. If you can breath for a moment and dissect what you did wrong or what happened you gain far more from 10 approaches then most idiots will get from 300 shotgun approaches hoping they luck into someone.
/r/seduction06/05/19 10:18 PM
1

Greene’s stuff is far more academic than what most people are looking for. I loved it personally as I’m a history nerd but no... it did not help my game one ounce.
/r/seduction06/05/19 09:53 PM
1

Going to the gym is good for you. But, no.... no woman of quality is going to just lunge themselves at you cause you work out. It may help but things like body language and ability to communicate with them well overrides just about everything else. If you are trying to fall back on being fit as a crutch so you don’t have to put in the legwork to become a strong communicator then you WILL just be seen as shallow. Shallow attracts shallow.
/r/seduction06/05/19 09:51 PM
1

Why would you compliment her and buy her a drink in the opening? You should almost never buy her a drink unless you are friends and wanting to stay that way lol. You are telegraphing to her “I’m needy and really want you to like me.” You may as well cover your hands in dog poop. Read Models then jump off to whichever seduction school interests you.
/r/seduction06/05/19 09:36 PM
2

Don’t have to delete and block. Stop texting though. To give her the benefit of the doubt... She could actually be working on studies. If you actually like her and want to have a conversation with her again some day you need to back off... like completely. No “I’m sorry for being needy” text either. If and when she messages YOU then you should give it a day while you think about where you two will go out. Leave texts to making plans.... don’t bombard her. Nothing turns a girl off quite like a wa…
/r/seduction06/05/19 04:55 PM
1

Stop texting her. Visit her at work and tell her you guys are going to go on a date later..... like do it tonight.. or tomorrow. Don’t wait or else your best bet is to try to claw you way out of the friendzone. Make you intentions clear that you want to learn more about her.
/r/seduction06/05/19 12:35 AM
3

Nope. If the most attractive guy at the bar is always going to AMOG everyone else then why the fuck is he sitting alone sipping a beer and being ignored while I have the most attractive woman in the bar laughing and hanging on my arm?
/r/seduction06/05/19 12:31 AM
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Texting too much. Freaking out when a plan has to get broken. Constantly asking “Are you okay?” Escalating the emotional side of a relationship too fast. Not doing other social activities outside of the relationship. General dependency on female attention to feel happy. Constant attempts at getting validation.... for a clingy or needy male this can come in the form of “I love you” as it usually begs a return declaration. The list goes on an on.
/r/seduction06/05/19 12:26 AM
1

Congrats. You just displayed a very strong level of empathy. If you are a true psycho then use that empathy to finish and close. If you arent a psycho then use that empathy to finish and close. :/
/r/seduction05/05/19 11:24 PM
1

Actually it is something you can “up” like a stat in an RPG. Harder to sort out doesn’t mean impossible. Confidence is not a function of external reinforcement. That is your ego. What do you call it when someone is fundamentally broken but they still put the work in and become confident in the face of literally having almost nothing to be confident about. I worked hard and continue to work hard to find ways to improve myself. If having been homeless and clawing my way back to stability is fortun…
/r/seduction05/05/19 09:49 PM
2

It can dramatically improve your life but of course “with great power comes great responsibility.” That responsibility is to yourself to be honest and the emotions of those around you. Women/People in general get caught up with life. Sometimes they don’t want to talk to you anymore... Sometimes they are testing you. Don’t text so much ... full stop. If she isn’t attracted to you no amount of texting will change her mind. If she is attracted to you then too much texting or wanting a response will…
/r/seduction05/05/19 09:32 PM
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Void Update(){ Self.relationship = Game(); } Bool Game(){ if(wealth>1000000 && personality!) return false; else return personality; }
/r/seduction05/05/19 09:11 PM
1

Don’t use canned material. :/. I guarantee if you look deep enough you will have plenty of your own stories to use AND you will be sincere. Women for the most part can sense when you arent being genuine. those that don’t are probably not worth pursuing for getting any reasonable satisfaction.... not to mention they can give you a false sense of success that will not carry over to quality women.
/r/seduction05/05/19 09:00 PM
2

Lol. Look up polyamory. If you are cool with your girls also playing the game then why not? If you arent then you need to address your own double standard. When you can make a phone call and have the absolute best wing person you could imagine.
/r/seduction05/05/19 08:58 PM
5

Walk up to them and say “hi.” Seriously... it’s that simple. If you think about it to much or swim in your own head with excuses like “ooooh she looks busy.” You’ll never get over that hump. Don’t even be thinking about closing. Focusing on the end result when it comes to early game is suicide. Walk before you try to run.
/r/seduction05/05/19 08:44 PM
5

Had 5 “successes” in three days with 5 different dates which was the general requirement to be considered a “Pick up Guru” at the time :/. Managed to go back after being confident enough in my abilities to pull most of my female friends at the time out of the friend zone. At a rather shallow point in my life I used to bet a table of men beer that I could kiss the first girl that would walk by me in under 3 min... drank for free many nights. It’s easy to get carried away when you “get good” which…
/r/seduction05/05/19 08:33 PM
1

False. With proper and honest training with effort anybody can start being effective as a PUA in a few weeks. Bad boy vibe is also a myth and a woeful oversimplification of the qualities that people attribute to “Bad Boys.” We men are horrible at self reflection so trying to pull off being a bad boy generally is just going to make you an asshole.
/r/seduction05/05/19 08:09 PM
1

Try 45. Many studies have been done on this front. Typically older men will be just as attractive to a woman as an 18-20 year old man. And, an older woman that takes care of herself can stomp an early 20s girl that is barely learning how to put makeup on the right way. Presence and obvious self care work just as much on men as they do on women. But it doesn’t really matter. Women place far less value on looks then men do in an initial meeting.
/r/seduction05/05/19 08:03 PM
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And I’m chubby with tiny apartment, bad teeth and no money to fix them if I wanted too lol. I make my male friends that go to the gym regularly and make good money cry when they forget that you don’t need that shit to be happy and do well with women.
/r/seduction05/05/19 07:56 PM
1

Have a little fun with is before ghosting her . Next time she does that replay with something like “Not my problem. I’m not!” And show a pic of you out having fun.
/r/seduction05/05/19 07:47 PM
5

If you look like you are having fun and actually having fun, chances are women will want to have fun with you on the dance floor. She’ll grind if she wants but trying to get her to grind on you will only come off as needy and hurt your chances for the rest of the night.
/r/seduction05/05/19 07:39 PM
1

The first one wasn’t a failure. She is taken. That’s not on you. And it doesn’t matter how attractive she is. If she would be willing to cheat on her boyfriend how can you ever be sure she wouldn’t do the same for you should things turn into a LTR. Second one... well people can flake easy, especially on social media. You thinking you are a nice guy is probably going to be your biggest down fall. Men going out of their way to help women in the hopes that it will make them be more attractive is ju…
/r/seduction05/05/19 07:32 PM
1

The only rumor that will possibly spread is that you arent afraid of talking to women. If you are in that small of a town and it really bothers you then go to the next town over to practice.
/r/seduction05/05/19 06:09 PM
1

Lol yes. Started practicing PUA at your age... which was 17 years ago haha.
/r/seduction05/05/19 06:07 PM
3

Are you a bad guy? If not then what do you have to worry about. If your friends question it there is nothing wrong with saying you are trying to get better with women. Is this fear real or just another excuse you are telling yourself to avoid the approach? Not trying to beat you down but it’s something worth considering. Good luck!
/r/seduction05/05/19 05:23 PM
2

Don’t think about it. Just go :P. If you see a woman you would like to meet then go and meet her ;). The world is vast.
/r/seduction05/05/19 05:18 PM
5

Sounds like you are having fun. Main advice I can give you right now is to avoid drunk people. Not worth it. Doesn’t improve your game really beyond some trivial ego boosting. may be a good way to start the night but not end it. It’s fun getting into bars underage but you can put the whole establishment at risk which is not fun :(. Try chatting up the people trying to get into the club/bar. They are usually already excited and anticipating a good night, yet they are bored as hell waiting around.
/r/seduction05/05/19 04:30 PM
2

He keeps posting.... getting pissed when people don’t tell him what he want’s to hear... gets banned then does it all over again.
/r/seduction05/05/19 04:09 PM
2

If you are keeping that idea in your head they will pick up on this. You can either own it or completely try to ignore it. Plenty of women like to take v-Cards but more of them know that taking a dudes virginity is probably going to turn him into a needy and emotional puppy which is quite the turn off. How old are you? If you are under 20 it’s not a big deal. If you are older.... it’s also not really that big of a deal but people can pick up on the need. My advice? Don’t go out trying to get lai…
/r/seduction05/05/19 04:07 PM
1

Yup.....just about. There are some that offer a legitimate service or product but you need to research them. 90% of what comes out these days is repackaged and reworded material from 10-15 years ago... and it still misses the mark. If you want to learn about Casanova go to a historian. Not a PUA. If you want to learn PUA then go to a freakin actual PUA. Not some kid that brings his buddy and a camera man around. People do stupid shit in front of a camera. This was the entire business model for G…
/r/seduction05/05/19 02:23 PM
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Nice! Too many guys put off trying for the kiss before it’s too late.
/r/seduction04/05/19 09:56 PM
3

Start by not being afraid to fuck up horribly. You’re going to. Even the best PUA will fuck up and get rejected. not everyone is meant to be able to date each other. Don’t ask questions to much on dates. Don’t treat it like a job interview but approach it like a job interview on your end. Make statements and make sure your intentions are known without being a slime ball. Don’t be afraid to touch. Keep eye contact but dont stare. Read Models. It’s a great jumping off point before deep diving into…
/r/seduction04/05/19 09:52 PM
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If they are trying to sell you something by using some token(and unoriginal) advice it’s probably a safe bet to tell them to shove it.
/r/seduction04/05/19 07:50 PM
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