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| 5 | The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they areThis is even true for when men describe why they love a woman, and they start describing her actions of servitude toward him. “She cooks for me, she keeps the house clean, she never argues with me, she always lets me fuck her” blah blah blah — all of these things presumably stem from her natural domesticity and more agreeable nature. Those are part of who she is, even if what the man likes is not actually about “her,” but what she does. Men who want/need this to tend to have mummy issues | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 02:17 PM |
| 2 | I don't think women love men the way men love women and that's not a bad thingYou do realise that women want and enjoy sex too right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 08:52 AM |
| 2 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.You're acting like genuinely wanting to do good things and making another person happy while also being disappointed when that doesn't work out are mutually exclusive. When the bad person gets dates but the 'sweet, sensitive boy doesn't', it isn't about believing Y should be with him because he is a good person or whatever, but confusion and frustration that doing all the things they were told not to do (and genuinely do not want to do) has not made anyone romantically repulsive but for whatever… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 08:10 PM |
| 2 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.As soon as it becomes a transaction, in which being good results in dates and being bad results in singleness, it's just world But it's not cause/effect transactional way. It's not 'I will do X and Y will date me'. It's 'I will do X because Y likes X, and it will be good to make Y happy', but then Y instead dates someone who does the total opposite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 07:48 PM |
| 2 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.For example, if a woman gets mad at a man, he will asssault her, and the video goes online for the misogynists to smile Maybe online weirdos will engage in this sort of thing, but usually if someone is shared online and becomes known for harassing or harming women or girls they can kiss their safety goodnight. Plenty of men will (quite rightly) be happy to give them a good kicking if they can get away with it. And again, it doesn't change the fact that society as a whole starts comforting boys l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 07:44 PM |
| 3 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.Women may not be rewarded as such for it, but it is something that is tolerated by society in a way that it is not for men and boys. Male anger isn't tolerated either, in fact it is something that is instinctively feared and treated with disgust. You guys are also allowed to cry in the same way we are. You realise even boy babies are comforted less than girl babies? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 07:29 PM |
| 2 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.I agree that that forcing girls (only) to do house chores is wrong. I think boys however get much harsher mental conditioning. Often made to 'man up' from the moment they can walk and talk. Not allowed to be scared or weak or upset, and if they do fuck up everyone is a lot less forgiving and expects them to take personal responsibility for it at a much earlier age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 07:18 PM |
| 3 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.That's just being a good person. Baseline Human 101. Everyone needs to do it to the best of their ability, no matter what. I don't understand why boys would see it as extra, optional, or transactional. Unless they're being raised in a low-expectation, high-praise environment. The point is that it's specifically emphasised as the kind of thing that girls like, and will make girls happy, to the boys that actually want to make girls happy. That's untrue, just by the numbers. Around half of high sch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 07:15 PM |
| 3 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.Once again we've had this conversation before. Even if only 0.1% are dating evil people, that's more than the 0.01% that are willing to date Person A. You know this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 07:10 PM |
| 9 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.I'm not sure why you're involving me in this. I have a GF who has never dated a bully as far as I know. if you actually cared about morals, you would say he’s filth and his girlfriend is filth for even dating him. Person A can be compassionate, empathetic and caring and enjoy doing good things for others. Person B who dates an evil person is probably also an evil person. Person A can recognise Person B is an evil person while still feeling hurt and unwanted that nobody wants to date Person A at … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 03:00 PM |
| 8 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.That was literally what was said to me in my last post. Ah so one person said it so it must be true innit. Second, none of that told them that they were going to be rewarded with pussy Interesting that you frame this as being 'rewarded with pussy' (a rather misogynistic framework I might add, shame on you!) 11 year old boys aren't usually thinking about pussy. They are told in this advice that doing these things will make the girls happy. And because boys aren't the demonic gremlins you seem to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 02:47 PM |
| 4 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.Unfortunately, it may be the only context in which some men can fathom the reality of "validation" from a woman's perspective. The men who struggle with that imagine an idealized, nonexistent version of what they see, and become jealous of that idealized nonexistent version. If being knowledgeable and accurate is more important than having an excuse to complain, educational hypotheticals can be necessary. I'm not sure what the point actually is here. Personally I have been propositioned (very qu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 02:26 PM |
| 9 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.We've had this conversation before. You know as well as I do that it's not about 'what mummy told them'. Where I grew up most adults (both male and female) would tell an 11 year old boy who is thinking about girls for the first time that he should dress well, make an effort with his hair/grooming, and maybe go to the gym/find another way to be fit. That was never in doubt. What causes confusion is when those same boys are told they should do all of the above, but also should be a nice person (to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 02:03 PM |
| 49 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.Where I grew up the usual line (from mums mostly but occasionally dads too) was stop crying or I'll give you something to cry about!. Alexithymia in boys starts literally before they can walk and talk. Every bit of research points to boys getting a vastly more emotionally repressive and 'personally responsible' childhood compared to their female counterparts. Doubly so for autistic boys who are identified and treated as 'other' much earlier than their counterparts. These 'spoiled, coddles boys' … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 01:39 PM |
| 2 | Men’s rigid conformity to idealised masculinity is harmful to themselvesBut how many of these feature the female as the dominant and the male as the submissive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 12:12 PM |
| 1 | Men’s rigid conformity to idealised masculinity is harmful to themselvesI think once the erotic element is introduced this becomes much murkier though. If a guy watches porn and masturbates over a submissive woman calling him daddy, then it wouldn't be sensible for a woman who isn't into that kind of thing to date him. Ditto for erotica. Sure, some people might not be into kink and read it for entertainment. But if a woman is actively turned on by its content then men who aren't into that will not be sexually compatible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 11:51 AM |
| 3 | Being her best sexually isn't that important and is unrealisticI've dated people before who said I gave them orgasms that were perfect, 10/10, wouldn't change a single thing about it etc, while still saying I wasn't the best they'd ever had. It's a meaningless categorisation which, if anything, says more about how she felt about the particular person that how well he performed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 11:38 AM |
| 1 | Men’s rigid conformity to idealised masculinity is harmful to themselvesFair point. Though I think fantasies do say something about what we like. Like, if I knew someone read 'mainstream' erotica I would caution any submissive man or vanilla man against dating her unless they are prepared to be (and enjoy being) sexually dominant . In the same way I would caution a vanilla woman against dating a man who watches porn about maids who call him daddy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 11:33 AM |
| 2 | Men’s rigid conformity to idealised masculinity is harmful to themselvesTo be clear I don't agree with the person above you, but I don't think the erotica vs porn argument is a great one. I've never used porn for any significant length of time, but even I know that the most basic porn sites will cater to many male niches beyond a petite blonde with big T&A, a perfectly waxed special place and a submissive soft girl personality. Even as someone who likes something very niche in women that most men despise (see my flair), I could find something that will get me off in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 10:53 AM |
| 7 | Toxic Masculinity, Healthy Masculinity, Positive Masculinity, Toxic Femininity what are they?Toxic masculinity does exist. There are still unfortunately a lot of men who do gender police other men and enforce traditional masculinity, or force it onto their children. I think the same is true for toxic femininity. The usual argument feminist argument against this is that it is actually 'internalised misogyny'. IE, gender roles that were created by men because of men's hatred for women, enforced by women because of those women's hatred for other women. The entire framework is inherently st… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/07/26 09:13 AM |
| 31 | Why do so few people identify as a "feminist"?I said that traditional gender roles for men are encoded into the DNA of feminism the ideology, not any human being. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/07/26 03:30 PM |
| 49 | Why do so few people identify as a "feminist"?Feminism the ideology has always been deeply conservative when it comes to the roles of men in society. 'Gender roles for thee but not for me'. It's not something unique to its current incarnations, it's something encoded into its DNA from the very beginning. See the White Feather Campaign for more. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/07/26 02:47 PM |
| 4 | Even if the Red Pill doesn't understand philosophy or the history of gender essentialism, it doesn't change the fact that its worldview is fundamentally conservative.I'm not an American but didn't at least 50% of white woman voters elect the government which is currently doing all this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 12:31 PM |
| 0 | Even if the Red Pill doesn't understand philosophy or the history of gender essentialism, it doesn't change the fact that its worldview is fundamentally conservative.It's not just the claim that men and women are different. It's the claim that those differences determine how men and women should behave, what they should want, and what roles they should occupy. That is conservatism I agree that Redpill is inherently conservative. Recently I've seen an uptake in feminists/radfems pushing "periods aren't 50/50, pregnancy isn't 50/50, childbirth isn't 50/50, breastfeeding isn't 50/50", as a reason for why women shouldn't pay on dates. I hope you have just as man… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 11:32 AM |
| 4 | CMV: Many men are genuinely intimidated by successful women because it disrupts traditional relationship dynamics.Being dominant is not inherently masculine behaviour. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 10:54 AM |
| 2 | Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.No, it is saying that both women and men face serious systemic issues and always have done, and that by calling it a 'patriarchy' it is implying that the system was created by men for the benefit of men (when it was actually created by ruling classes for the benefit of ruling classes) and that men are a fundamentally privileged class in this system, which they are very much not unless they are ruling class men (or women). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/06/26 07:13 PM |
| 14 | Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.I think it's dangerous to claim that there aren't some aspects of society in which women weren't treated worse than men simply because they were women, both historically and today. But that doesn't mean it was/is a patriarchy. There were plenty of aspects in which men had it worse even in those times because they were men. Wars, unsafe and dangerous work with zero labour rights, criminalisation and persecution of gay men who have almost always been treated far worse than lesbians (IIRC, Queen Vi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/06/26 09:44 AM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themWhenever these posts come up I think both the incels/blackpillers and the radfems should be reminded that there is an immense gulf of potential solutions between the extremes of 'government-mandated-girlfriends' and 'eugenics'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 03:50 PM |
| 3 | If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman providesProbably what my GF and I will end up doing if we have kids, as she earns 4x as much as me and is way more passionate about her work than I am about mine. Doubt it will be soon though as I'm caring for my sick mother | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 11:04 AM |
| 10 | Having a backbone, understanding and enforcing your boundaries, and being firm with your needs aren't the same as being dominant, and having a good personality isn't necessarily being meek or being a people-pleaserI mean, sure, but plenty of women (and men) do go for genuinely bad, evil people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 12:06 AM |
| 5 | It's not "men act, women are", it's "men's skills are recognized, women's are taken for granted".Try being a man who displays emotion the same way as the average woman, or who wants to go into a career like childcare or primary school teaching, or who just isn't 'stoic' and 'tough' in general. Society might not shun you but you're never going to be top of a male friends list unless you mask very well. And good luck with dating in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 10:29 PM |
| 1 | Most women are attracted to dominant men, and most women want to be in controlMy GF went through the whole process of deconditioning from smoothness/hairlessness 'feeling nice' (smooth legs in bedsheets etc) and the brain's reward centres letting off fireworks for conforming to a societal expectation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 10:26 PM |
| 1 | It's not "men act, women are", it's "men's skills are recognized, women's are taken for granted".Recognised insofar as they basically don't exist if they do anything else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 10:20 PM |
| 2 | Most women are attracted to dominant men, and most women want to be in controlSure, doesn't stop the western tradition of body hair removal as a near-universally female practice being a 20th Century capitalist psyop. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 10:15 PM |
| 1 | It's not "men act, women are", it's "men's skills are recognized, women's are taken for granted".All these skills are immensely important, but society (even in the most liberal parts of the world) is either indifferent to or actively doesn't want men learning them. Boys are socialised to be brave, tough and strong, and yes, to man up. And society as a whole (including feminism) doesn't reward men who want to be emotional and empathetic carers instead of doing the hard and dangerous labour, it rewards 'healthy masculinity' which is ultimately just traditional, stoic masculinity in temperamen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 10:14 PM |
| 2 | Most women are attracted to dominant men, and most women want to be in controlBody hair is not unhygienic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 10:08 PM |
| 3 | Most women are attracted to dominant men, and most women want to be in controlWhat a considered and informative contribution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 09:45 PM |
| 1 | Most women are attracted to dominant men, and most women want to be in controlGood on you! May evil societal pressures die a painful death. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 09:34 PM |
| 3 | Most women are attracted to dominant men, and most women want to be in controlA gilette ad campaign to sell razors in the early 20th. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 09:32 PM |
| 1 | Most women are attracted to dominant men, and most women want to be in controlNot sure if you're agreeing or disagreeing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 09:32 PM |
| 2 | Most women are attracted to dominant men, and most women want to be in controlConditioning is one hell of a drug, and neurotypical humans are hardwired to be susceptible to it. People thought corsets and Chinese foot binding were necessary to be beautiful once upon a time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 09:29 PM |
| 3 | Most women are attracted to dominant men, and most women want to be in controlPeople are apparently stupid enough to think women shaving their legs is a natural inclination and not a 20th Century capitalist psyop. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 09:22 PM |
| 2 | Most women are attracted to dominant men, and most women want to be in controlPerhaps there is an unstated fact here: men and women DO work best together when they are dimorphic, and the social revolution movement which started in the 1960s and continues in morphed forms still today is precisely the destruction of this dimorphism. Forget about "tradition" for a second. Forget about "norms". Suppose that merely because some people believed the delusions that men and women are not dimorphic, culture has drifted in such a way that men and women actually are less dimorphic no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 08:48 PM |
| 3 | Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different.The truth is that men date up in terms of looks, and looks alone. We often don’t factor in other aspects with women because we feel they don’t do much for us. For example, if she makes a ton of money or is well-educated, that’s great for her, but a lot of men aren’t turned on by book-smart “boss babes.” Speak for yourself man. Intelligence and ambition are hot AF. Otherwise its just 'congrats on your body I guess'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 03:27 AM |
| 1 | Are you sure size doesn't matter?I don't think that's a great comparison since that's not inherently an attraction related thing. If you like big dick and enjoy it sexually you are a size queen. It's like a friend of mine who managed to attract and date three foot fetish guys in a row, even though she hates feet and anything to do with them and rarely if ever wears open toed shoes. Sometimes the universe just surprises you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 01:05 PM |
| 0 | Are you sure size doesn't matter?How can not all of them be a size queen but all of them very happy with what you had? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 04:10 AM |
| 1 | Too many men are obsessed with masculinity when it’s really they’re not acting like adults.Human brains run on glucose. Hunting meat (which there is credible evidence females also took part in) was high risk/high reward and it was common to come back empty handed, and could never have allowed our development alone. Glucose rich foods - foraged items predominantly acquired by females - played a vital role in human brain development. Female chimps hunt (albeit using makeshift spears rather than chasing and brute strength). Bonobos (whom we are as closely related to as Chimps) also have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 04:38 PM |
| 0 | Are you sure size doesn't matter?If I could interject, I am friends with a lot of 'sex positive' women who will openly discuss what turns them on with no feelings spared. They're very open about they like/don't like in terms of race, height, voice, sexual behaviours, presentation, beards and facial attractiveness, body hair levels, traditional masculinity (or lack of) or wealth/income (and not all of them had the same preferences). But of all those women not a single one was a 'size' queen. Some (but not all) were height queens… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 01:15 PM |
| 2 | Too many men are obsessed with masculinity when it’s really they’re not acting like adults.FYI, females of every animal species including humans acquire their own resources and always have done | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 12:10 PM |
| 1 | I want to be a feminist, but it feels AlienatingEven past 'patriarchies' have had female queens, empresses, aristocrats and rulers. Regardless of who imposed these roles, if feminists are defending them they aren't 'patriarchal' rules, just toxic gender role beliefs, which feminism the ideology has always been in favour of in terms of men's role in society. That's why you see people saying that patriarchy harms men too because patriarchy is what says men need to be these hyper masculine stoics that lead to the exact problems you brought up. T… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/06/26 10:29 AM |
| 1 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessWhy is she your dream girl? What do you like about her? She's intelligent, stylish, funny, philosophical and empathetic. Would she have been your dream girl if she hadn't offered to split? No (unless when I paid she explicitly said she'd get it next time). I only want to date people who have egalitarian worldviews and not people who think they should be paid for by birthright. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 03:52 AM |
| 2 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessWhat kind of person is that? A cheap date No, an adult who can pay their fair share. And actually it was a fun date! But you don’t pay for dates 😂 I guess she earned all that paying her half. Well the idea is we do things that make each other happy. I wouldn't expect you trad fascists to understand. And that’s a lot to say you ain’t married. Maybe you are waiting for her to get on her knees with a ring for you or better y’all can GO HALF on the diamond 🤢 Neither of us are particularly bothered a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 04:50 AM |
| 3 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessNope, just the facts of what a silly and outdated notion it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 06:25 PM |
| 3 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessI used scientifically accurate terminology. Nothing stated was vulgar or hateful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 06:18 PM |
| 2 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessOK so if my GF insisted on me paying is she being stingy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 03:02 PM |
| 5 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessI asked if YOU were unwilling to pay. Were you willing or not? Had she not immediately offered would you have asked to go half? Be honest I'd have offered both paying and splitting and wouldn't have seen her again if she picked the former (unless she explicity said she'd get it next time). If you wouldn’t see her again, if she accepted you paying for the bill after your offered to you’re not that into her I 'wouldn't have been that into her' because if she didn't want to go halves she obviously … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 03:00 PM |
| 3 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessOP is correct because I believe being born a certain way doesn't entitle you to be ex empt from paying your fair share? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 02:45 PM |
| 1 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessWe'd usually split, occasionally one of us would get it in full | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 02:19 PM |
| 5 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessSo you were unwilling to pay or did she just agree to split? She offered to split, unprompted. Are you saying you would not have paid?? I'd offer to pay or split but wouldn't want to see her again if she accepted me paying (the only exception being if she explicitly said she'd get it next time). If a man is unwilling to pay sorry but he’s not that into you. Point blank period. If he was really into you the risk of paying would be nothing to him it would be totally worth it. If a woman is unwilli… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 02:09 PM |
| 5 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessI'm with my dream girl so pretty well! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 02:04 PM |
| 5 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessI am sorry that my opinion offends you but I will not be changing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 01:57 PM |
| 8 | Who cares about men being expected to pay on dates? Why care?Hmm. I would've thought that the sort of person who wanted a 'traditional' relationship would make clear they wanted one. Otherwise why waste your time with someone who wants otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 01:49 PM |
| 6 | Who cares about men being expected to pay on dates? Why care?Guys that want that tend to make it obvious that they want that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 01:38 PM |
| 3 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessExplain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 01:31 PM |
| 4 | Who cares about men being expected to pay on dates? Why care?Perhaps, and if that brings both of them happiness fair play to them. Personally I don't want my GF to cook and prefer spoiling her at home. I just don't believe in financially providing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 01:31 PM |
| 1 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessMaybe it's just my dashing good looks... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 01:23 PM |
| 3 | "Covenant Men" idea to solve the dating crisis... not that people would sign on, but it would workWhat biological differences mean men should pay? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 01:22 PM |
| 12 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessLying big time because if their dream girl agreed to go on a date with them they would pay. There is no man who is risking losing out on a girl they really fancy over the 50-75 bucks it would cost for a standard date at mid tier restaurant. It’s not a thing Well I'm with my dream girl now and we split the first date and all the early dates so erm, damn. And anyone who expects to be paid for by virtue of being born with a vagina would never be my dream girl anyway. I am attracted to confident cap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 01:21 PM |
| 18 | Men not wanting to pay for the date indicates lack of interest and low aggreeablenessNope, I just only want to date people who are competent, capable and self-sufficient enough to afford their half of an (inexpensive) date. People who score high on measures of agreeableness are empathetic and self-sacrificing So they should want to pay their half, right? while those with low agreeableness are prone to selfishness, insincerity, and zero-sum thinking Like thinking they should be paid for because they were born with a vagina? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 12:52 PM |
| 13 | Who cares about men being expected to pay on dates? Why care?And if women (quite rightly) don't want to be a bang maid they should just not date the guys that want that right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 12:26 PM |
| 13 | Who cares about men being expected to pay on dates? Why care?Gender roles for thee and not for me innit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 12:15 PM |
| 17 | Who cares about men being expected to pay on dates? Why care?In answer to your question, if someone expected me to pay (unless she had a very good reason like she left her card/wallet at home etc) I wouldn't see them again. A question for you though Lilith: when women (quite rightly) complain about men expecting them to do the bulk of the house chores, do you tell them to just 'not date those men'? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 11:48 AM |
| 2 | "Covenant Men" idea to solve the dating crisis... not that people would sign on, but it would workBesides gender roles what's the reason? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 11:37 AM |
| 3 | "Covenant Men" idea to solve the dating crisis... not that people would sign on, but it would workI just think the not paying especially on low cost dates is going to read as a lack of interest, lack of positive generosity, and lack of investment Couldn't you just as easily argue the same for not splitting? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 04:48 AM |
| 6 | Can you explain what emasculation feels like? Or is?From before they can walk and talk boys are taught to 'Be a MAN'. You do not cry, you do not show weakness, you be brave, and tough, and strong, and self sufficient. And you are judged primarily on output and achievement. And as a boy ages into a man, not only does he need to be brave and tough and achieving to be able to successfully court a romantic partner, but in the eyes of society he needs to secure a romantic partner to prove he has succeeded at the metrics required to 'be a MAN'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 07:15 PM |
| 3 | Women in less developed countires are more gender-essentialistc, which imo is an underdiscussed draw for passport bros.I mean, outside of the West it's totally common to see women walking around in public with unshaven hairy legs (even ethnic populations who tend to have hairier women already) even though those places are still saturated by Western media and porn with its smooth-shaved ideal, and hair removal products are inexpensive. But besides this, it shouldn't be a surprise to you that women raised in cultures which are more socially conservative tend to be... socially conservative. No biology needed for th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/26 07:44 PM |
| – | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?Normal stable people rarely know women like that TBF I have met women in corporate/professional jobs and/or high skill jobs like civil engineers who have boyfriends in prison. My GF works with investment banks and deals with numerous successful women who have violent cheater BFs. It doesn't happen often but it does happen. It probably happens just as often with men to be fair, but they're less likely to admit it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:44 PM |
| – | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?I genuinely don't know. "Dan From IT" isn't a real person, rather a caricature of some people I know. There's nothing ugly about them physically, they have solid, stable jobs, and have a decent amount of male and female friends. But for whatever reason romance just has not happened. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:26 PM |
| – | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?A negative something always seems better than a positive nothing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:12 PM |
| – | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?Fear of consequences, lack of criminal connections, or maybe just good old empathy for others | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 01:53 PM |
| – | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?The ForeverAlones would argue that even it's only 0.1% of women that are dating those criminals and thugs, it's still more than the 0.001% that are willing to date your mate Dan From IT who is a bit of a 'loser'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 01:48 PM |
| 2 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.Look, I do see what you're saying. But it's reductive and oversimplifying to say that 'all people who date arseholes are arseholes'. Even if it is technically true. IE, someone who dates a person who is a bully or is violent or is a racist or a homophobe is quite obviously an arsehole. But crucially, they are not themselves a bully or a violent person. I know people (men AND women) who most people would agree are 'good people'. They are kind, empathetic, helpful, intelligent and hard working. An… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:00 PM |
| 2 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.I mean, growing up where I did (UK in the mid 2000s/early 2010s), the word 'gay' was so common an insult that it genuinely lost all meaning. You were 'gay' if you supported a different football team or had a different favourite TV show. Even girls would call each other girls 'gay' without any implication of being a lesbian. It was just the go-to-insult without any deeper connotations of traditional masculinity. We all got 'tipped off' that traditional masculinity was preferred, but pretty much a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 01:30 PM |
| 2 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.Tell that to all the people that like them, and the partners lining up to date them 🤷♀️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 12:54 PM |
| 4 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.Plenty of people with no social skills are decent people, and plenty of (I'd go as far as to say most) 'insufferable arses' have very good social skills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 12:50 PM |
| 4 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.I'm not sure what you're point you're actually trying to make here, but I'm going to try and address it anyway. I started thinking about girls when I was what, 10? 11? And every girl my age at that time was in love with Justin Bieber because of how good looking he was. It didn't take long to work out that I needed to do things like go to the gym and get a haircut in order to have a chance with girls (though the fact I was poor meant I couldn't do these as much as I liked). I think most boys are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 12:44 PM |
| 2 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADAs a very hairy man with a high pitched voice this is disturbingly relatable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 06:53 AM |
| 38 | "Men have oppressed women for centuries."The gender war (like all wars) serves only to protect and enrich the wealthy and powerful. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/06/26 07:21 PM |
| 1 | I want to be a feminist, but it feels AlienatingYou threw a wall of text at me claiming the reasons feminists frame a man who is sexually abused by a woman as the one with agency in the encounter is because of 'the patriarchy'. Your framework is fundamentally invalid. I think some things are taken too far but that doesn't completely invalidate the philosophy. Does men being the majority of homeless, imprisoned, suicides, workplace deaths and war deaths invalidate the philosophy? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/06/26 09:45 AM |
| 7 | Chivalry is a submissive act.Do things like cooking for her, rubbing her feet after a day in heels, running her a bath with a glass of wine count as chivalrous and protective and therefore masculine? (Am in an FLR and do all of those things for her) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/26 09:17 AM |
| 6 | The Emotional Baggage ProblemMy only point is that the emotional baggage problem seems to be real and from this perspective, it's reasonable for men who are looking for long-lasting committed relationships to end up with (adult) women who are relatively young and inexperienced. I've seen studied which very much contradict the ones you've posted here about who is perpetrating and receiving abuse. Lets just say it's a lot more equal than claimed. But that's by-the-by. Even if everything you've said is true, most people have e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 05:32 AM |
| – | Men like different types, Woman like different flavors.I mean, the most popular female sex symbol of the twenty-first century, if not of all time, is a 5'9, clean-shaven, average build teenager with a high pitched voice who sang about his feelings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 08:13 PM |
| 4 | I want to be a feminist, but it feels AlienatingThere is no patriarchy. Next. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/06/26 04:48 PM |
| 3 | Are you actually turned on by 'traditionally feminine' BEHAVIOURS from women?Informative answer even if my view is completely different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 06:06 AM |
| – | Where is the androphilia?This might sound a bit misandrist, but biologically, there is no behaviour that men seek in women, besides maybe submissiveness which can barely count as much of a behaviour. It feels like slipping a bit out of a fairytale as a woman, honestly, but knowing that my behaviour doesn’t really influence whether a man is attracted to me kinda sucks? Not speaking for anybody else but I have always been attracted to women with confident, decisive, dominant (and yet feminine) personalities. And even all … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 03:10 PM |
| – | Where is the androphilia?As a high pitched male I am deeply offended. (Joking about the offended part not the high pitched part) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 02:47 PM |
| 79 | I want to be a feminist, but it feels AlienatingInteresting that the quote still frames the man as the one with the agency in the counter. A man who engages in unwanted sexual intercourse with a woman. Their oppressor-oppressed dynamic renders them unable to even consider a scenario where the man doesn't wield power over the woman, even if the man is the non-consenting party. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/06/26 10:56 AM |
| 1 | I don’t understand the big deal about going DutchFair. Personally I would never have a relationship with someone who expected me to financially provide. I'd always offer to pay but if she took it there wouldn't be a second date (unless there were exceptional circumstances like she lost her card or left her bag/wallet at home etc). Probably because I have been a sole provider and carer for my unwell mother and numerous physically/mentally unwell relatives, thinking of a potential relationship as someone who needs (or wants) to be a dependant im… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 10:44 AM |
| 1 | I don’t understand the big deal about going DutchINFO: Could you feel protected without being (strictly financially) provided for? Eg, the guy in question invites you for a picnic at the park and has home cooked the cuisine? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 05:26 AM |
| 8 | Men can choose to put up with bad women for sex and that's their fault not women's.Intelligence, nerds, high EQ, quirkiness, dorks, black sheep, outcasts, oddballs, rejects. Basically dudes that are generally completely ignored and overlooked even though they're pretty awesome once you get to know them. Dudes with deep empathy and compassion, an awe for life and more. Who believe knowledge is power and are highly educated and kind, have altruistic traits. Dudes who are desperate are so easy to spot and such a huge turn off. FYI, a guy can be all this and still be desperate. It… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 02:10 PM |
| 24 | Could the sexual objectification of women actually have had a role in the rise of the manosphere?The manosphere exists because disaffected young men want easy answers to complicated problems, problems which TPTB aren't interested in solving leaving an open goal for dangerous bad faith actors | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 05:00 PM |
| 5 | Women don't really view men as human beings in romantic contextsShe uses it on a regular basis | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 11:31 PM |
| 8 | Women don't really view men as human beings in romantic contextsPersonally I've met both males and females who think their own 'icks' are justifiable but everybody else's aren't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 11:16 PM |
| 12 | Women don't really view men as human beings in romantic contextsI think everyone has the right to date or not-date who they want. I also think most if not all 'icks' and a good chunk of beauty standards (most notably the female hairlessness tradition) are inherently stupid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 10:59 PM |
| 4 | Women don't really view men as human beings in romantic contextsPoint still stands. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 10:47 PM |
| 8 | Women don't really view men as human beings in romantic contextsmy type of c-word My type is a hairy cunt, which my GF has in abundance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 10:45 PM |
| 10 | Women don't really view men as human beings in romantic contextsI like a bit of swearing. I am British though so what do you expect? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 10:41 PM |
| 11 | Women don't really view men as human beings in romantic contextsUltra Classy! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 10:35 PM |
| 13 | Women don't really view men as human beings in romantic contextsMy girl drops C-Bombs like a fighter jet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 10:32 PM |
| 46 | Women don't really view men as human beings in romantic contextsWe've all heard about "icks" that seem absurd to us as men I know a guy who liked this girl for months, finally went out with her, then heard her say the word 'cunt' on the date and decide he wasn't attracted to her anymore. Apparently it's 'not right for a woman to talk like that'. I worked with another guy who got disgusted at hearing a woman (who he previously found attractive) joke about farting and leaving a stink in the toilet. Note that this was a guy I worked with on a construction site … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 10:23 PM |
| 5 | The obsession movie increasing misandry, similar to Adolescence show.At least when Joker came out in 2019, I don't remember any reductive readings of the main character as an incel, and people treated the movie seriously as a commentary on society's lack of empathy for those with mental health conditions Jamie Foxx's Electro was really good for this too. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/05/26 05:36 AM |
| 9 | The majority of men who seriously struggle dating and finding a partner were bullied in adolescenceI'm not sure about 'in the suburbs' specifically. I know plenty of people middle class and above who has proper fucked up parents. But if the question is, would my life have been better with genuinely loving parents, the answer is unquestionably yes. When I think of the most emotionally healthy and resilient people (men and women) I know, they were all people who had caring, understanding parents, but also ones who gave them a healthy level of challenge growing up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 02:18 PM |
| 12 | The majority of men who seriously struggle dating and finding a partner were bullied in adolescenceWhen I was late teens/early 20s I would often attempt a task (like a particular DIY job or cooking a particular meal) which I'd have absolutely no training for (not even watching a YouTube video or reading instructions) and flying into an explosive rage when it inevitably did not work. It took me a lot of introspection to realise this was a result of my father beating me for failing any task he expected me to do, and my mother telling me off for not doing something without actually asking me to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 11:50 AM |
| 24 | The majority of men who seriously struggle dating and finding a partner were bullied in adolescenceStrong men don’t come from soft, cushy environments. (Well adjusted) Strong men often had enough challenge to help them build resilience and the ability to learn from mistakes, but also loving, caring, forgiving parents and healthy friendships in childhood. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 10:54 AM |
| 89 | The majority of men who seriously struggle dating and finding a partner were bullied in adolescenceParental abuse is also a massive contributor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 10:51 AM |
| 8 | The phrase "men are afraid of other men" is just a feminist way of calling men bitches or pussies.I like to think if I saw a woman being harassed I would intervene and confront the creep. However, having done it in the past, I've had the creep's boys walk up from round the corner threatening to stab me. I've had mates who've intervened on arguments between couples where the man was being overly aggressive and threatening, only for both the man and the woman to start kicking the shit out of them. Fact is you never know what the creep has up his sleeve. He might be a drunk idiot but you don't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 05:52 PM |
| 3 | What do you want to be valued for?I am her servant and protector. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 06:40 PM |
| 17 | Autistic man mistreated, and a "feminist" group mocked it and muted me for respectful disagreement.I'm not sure what point you're trying to make? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/05/26 10:05 AM |
| 104 | Autistic man mistreated, and a "feminist" group mocked it and muted me for respectful disagreement.That's before we get into how making fun of male loneliness is in itself not only problematic, but stupid - given that healthy, well-adjusted men aren't the ones hurting people, by wishing for men to be more lonely and suffer more, you're basically tempting fate. There's something particularly dark and insidious about the way online feminists gleefully tie lonely, romantically unchosen men to the crimes and actions of others. Examples, whenever there is a post about the male loneliness epidemic … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/05/26 07:16 AM |
| – | Women use chores to avoid submitting to menI'm not a asshole but she knows that when I ask her to do something, it means do it and for her to say no is disrespectful af Do you do the same when she asks you to do things? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 10:16 PM |
| – | Women use chores to avoid submitting to menI think if either of us was unfaithful it would be the end of the relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 09:52 PM |
| – | Women use chores to avoid submitting to menNeither of us fuck other people? What a silly question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 09:42 PM |
| – | Women use chores to avoid submitting to menWhy would I need her to stop talking to other men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 09:39 PM |
| – | Women use chores to avoid submitting to menMy GF can barely boil an egg, and if she always did 'what I asked her to do' my attraction to her wouldn't last long. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 09:17 PM |
| – | How did you acquire your GF / wife / casual relationship? (or your last one)Indeed. I tend to attract (and be attracted to) this kind of woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 07:29 AM |
| – | How did you acquire your GF / wife / casual relationship? (or your last one)Saw her in a pub, immediately noticed how stylish and elegantly dressed she was, went up and got chatting, needed to leave to meet my friend but offered her my number. Didn't expect her to text me but the rest is history. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 07:05 AM |
| 1 | Why do many men find a clumsy, socially awkward, maladjusted woman acceptable for casual sex, but women don’t?I like being consumed by a Venus flytrap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 12:44 PM |
| 5 | Why do many men find a clumsy, socially awkward, maladjusted woman acceptable for casual sex, but women don’t?No doubt there are are some (many?) predators who think like this. I've definitely known some men who think a clumsy, shy, socially awkward is 'cute' and 'endearing'. They often think it comes across as 'innocent'. I am not one of those men to be clear but it's definitely something I've heard before. There is a limit to this however. If she's so socially clueless that the things she says/does embarrasses herself and him by extension ("Your girl's weird, bruv!") then that definitely isn't somethi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 12:43 PM |
| 3 | Do women have safe space to have "honest conversations" about attraction?I'm not just speaking online. There are now actual movies and documentaries about the manosphere etc. This is in real-life, mainstream consciousness. These things are talked about by legitimate news organizations. Especially wrt birth rates. The manosphere exists because disaffected young men want easy answers to complicated problems, problems which TPTB aren't interested in solving leaving an open goal for dangerous bad faith actors, not because individual women are attracted/not attracted to i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 06:22 PM |
| 9 | Do women have safe space to have "honest conversations" about attraction?I'm speaking more generally. Is it your understanding that women are free to speak honestly and directly with little to no hostility in response? I think people in general are not going to take 'You are not what I'm attracted to' as something to be happy about. But the response must be handled with respect and empathy. Is that your observation from what you see online and the things you read about dating and relationship discourse in general? Women speak plainly and aren't hated or threatened fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 05:16 PM |
| 15 | Do women have safe space to have "honest conversations" about attraction?I have a lot of female friends who are 'sex positive' and will openly discuss what they are attracted to and not attracted to. I'm always happy to have those conversations with them, and think it is more helpful than using words/phrases like 'chemistry' or 'the spark wasn't there' etc. Some of these women are indeed attracted to 'controlled displays of aggression/dominance' and who have a 'strong physical presence' - which is much more about body language, posture, walking style, voice tone (whi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 04:57 PM |
| 11 | Women need to cookMy GF can't cook to save her life, and I do not want her to. Please, remove your flair. As a (left-leaning) MRA we do not claim the filth you post here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 02:44 PM |
| – | What would happen if all men were socially inept when it comes to interacting with women?Be entirely evaluated on looks according to the simple standard of don't be fat (the part you missed in the very worst case scenario) like women are? I'd be very interested to hear the response when the 'just don't be fat' crowd are asked if they'd date a woman with hairy legs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 12:52 PM |
| 6 | It's not a hot take to say that most women (doesn't matter if they conservative or liberal) don't like pegging, feminine men, or bisexual men.See my flair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 11:18 PM |
| 13 | Why do some women, especially on Reddit, instantly assume that men who simply vent about dating struggles are entitled to a relationship?Because the idea of being perpetually romantically rejected is horrifying to most non asexual/aromantic people (female and male). And because it's too horrifying to contemplate or to imagine happening to someone you know to be a 'good person', it's easier to make up something they did to deserve it, most notably the 'entitlement' line. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 02:45 PM |
| 2 | Nice guys should accept being aloneIt's a bit of both. In many cases they THINK they want him to open up (or at least that's what they think they SHOULD want) only for that to kill the 'strong stoic rock' image they were attracted to in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 02:54 PM |
| 12 | Nice guys should accept being aloneReposting what I wrote the last time this came up: I think there is something of a misunderstanding of NiceGuy-ism. The usual strawman is of course that the 'Entitled Nice Guy (TM)' who pretends to be 'nice' to get in your pants and then becomes hostile and aggressive when that doesn't work out. I am not saying that never happens but it is ultimately a strawman, maybe that exact script takes place one in a million times. A lot of my female friends are very sex-positive and will actually tell you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 02:05 PM |
| 13 | On incels.Reminds of a (mostly former) friend of mine who was/is totally unsympathetic to lonely men in general, and parrots all the classic feminist talking points about it's really 'male entitlement' stemming from misogyny. And I don't mean just the small minority of militant violent extremists, but any men or boys who are unhappy about being perpetually single. When I told her of guys who've cried on my shoulder about how they're going to die alone, who blame themselves entirely for it, her response is… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/05/26 10:54 AM |
| – | Solve dating problems mainly through culture/society, or mainly through politics/laws ?Extended and equalised maternity/paternity leave: More for folks getting into relationships as adults, but will be beneficial, as couples no longer need to risk losing half their income if they have a child, nor does one parent have to burn themselves and miss bonding with baby and spending time with family. Free/Affordable childcare for all: Again, this will help insure couples can remain financially secure upon having children and avoid either parent having to work less hours. Eradicate "influ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 05:03 AM |
| 14 | Parents of LWMA, what do you do differently in raising children?I don't have kids but as someone whose upbringing was... less than ideal I've thought long and hard about what I'd do differently. I'd tried to avoid gender roles of any kind as much as feasibly possible. I'd want both a son and a daughter to explore many hobbies, activities, toys, styles of dress and presentation etc. I don't want them growing up believing that "boys should be X" or "Girls should do Y". I would as much as possible have them meet and make friends with kids of different races and… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/26 12:25 AM |
| – | Red pill men: does a woman's virginity/sexual past matter to you and if so why?It's still an incredibly flimsy reasoning. Driving a car carries a level of risk, so does getting on a bus or a train or a plane. And while I absolutely agree that men carry more 'inherent' risk due to being larger and stronger, women absolutely can harm men in various ways (or get men to do it for them). It still doesn't stop it being a double standard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 11:40 AM |
| – | Red pill men: does a woman's virginity/sexual past matter to you and if so why?Maybe she's a competent, capable successful woman who happens to also like sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 10:20 AM |
| – | Red pill men: does a woman's virginity/sexual past matter to you and if so why?I've been thinking about this a lot too. I was raised in a culture which heavily venerates virginity (Islam) and I couldn't care less about it. It's weird seeing people who weren't raised with these kind of beliefs becoming obsessed with 'N Count' and purity. I don't think it can entirely be put down to 'insecurity'. No doubt there are some (likely many) men who believe that their size isn't enough to sexually please a woman (I don't agree with this to be clear but it is a belief), or that they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 05:53 AM |
| – | Red pill men: does a woman's virginity/sexual past matter to you and if so why?So, when a man has a vibrant sexual life, that means that he's got his shit together - one way or another. When a woman has a lot of sexual partners, that just means that she has horrible judgment and self-control. Care to show the actual working to come to this conclusion? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 05:34 AM |
| – | Most of the “successful marriages” are miragewith many simply allowing their wife to whip them Stop threatening us with a good time! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 05:38 AM |
| 5 | “Men would love to be sexually objectified”As a male who was sexually assaulted as a child (by an older girl) and has been sexually harassed numerous times (by both men and women, but more often and more seriously by women), it isn't hard for me to say that all sexual harassment is wrong regardless of who the perpetrator or the victim are. I think with the 'sexualisation' conversation there does have to be some nuance to all this. A few times I have been propositioned by gay men who made the conversation 'sexual' barely minute after meet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 02:45 PM |
| – | After woman's so called 'hoe phase' in the end you are just the option she choose to settle down with right?Why are men who don't believe in purity culture 'stupid'? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 10:46 AM |
| – | Would you/have you ever exploited a woman’s fears or anxieties to foster emotional dependence or play the hero?I mean, I have a bit of a hero/protector complex anyway. But it's something we've only ever explored in the bedroom, and specifically in a femdom context. Under no circumstances would or should real fears and anxieties be exploited in service of this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 06:15 AM |
| 13 | Let’s lighten things up a little bit. What are your “hear me out(s)”?See my flair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 12:38 PM |
| 17 | A story of radicalisation: A young student who grew up in a “liberal bubble,” with a model dad teaching her equality (and that women are better), now believes misandry and aggression against men are necessaryMen and women in positions of power, yes. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/04/26 12:34 PM |
| 1 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADNope, born in the UK and raised in an almost entirely white working class area. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 08:36 PM |
| 1 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADJust a lot of things about the religion that I didn't like. The misogyny, the hatred of gay people, the way it goes out of its way to smother anything fun like music and dance, the constant threats of suffering for not believing etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 08:34 PM |
| 2 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADThe fact that it's a religion and culture I want absolutely nothing to do with probably helps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 08:24 PM |
| 2 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADYou're one of a kind too! Everybody is! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 08:21 PM |
| 3 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADAm I immune to our evolved psychology then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 08:02 PM |
| – | I have anticipatory Retroactive Jealousy. Are there any one of you in this sub with this. Are most men and younger guys that have less to no relationship ke sexual experience suffering from it without really knowing about it?I wouldn't panic because of one reddit post from 11 years ago. And as someone whose little guy is well below average (certainly much smaller than what you've mentioned), it has never caused any kind of problem for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 07:51 PM |
| 2 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADI have not been the biggest partner for anyone I've been with before (in fact in almost all cases I was the smallest), and multiple consider me the best they've had. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 04:15 PM |
| 4 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADAs someone who was raised among extreme purity culture (Islam), I personally do not care what 'N Count' a partner has had. And to be honest I find it somewhat baffling that people who weren't raised in anywhere near the kind of values I was take this nonsense so seriously. Where does this come from? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 04:08 PM |
| -1 | Many young women HIGHLY undervalue 'safe and predictable' behavior which incentivizes more toxic behavior that those same women love to complain aboutStill don't have to be like that to be exciting or fun. Which, again, was my point. You don't have to be like that, but it sure helps! Still not necessary to be exciting or fun. It's not necessary no, but we humans can often be quite vulnerable to a good bit of dopamine trickery. Is it the only way to be 'exciting'? No, but it's perhaps one of the most effective ways to generate excitement. I don't understand what this means. I don't know why groups require "alphas." If you mean work in particul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 08:24 AM |
| 0 | Many young women HIGHLY undervalue 'safe and predictable' behavior which incentivizes more toxic behavior that those same women love to complain aboutWhat is "a degree of confidence?" Any confidence at all? Sorry let me rephrase. I specifically mean the kind of confidence that's usually found on 'bad boys/mean girls'. Whether it is faked or justified that mix of recklessness and grandiosity is damn potent. I think danger and recklessness belong here. I disagree about unpredictability. A guy can surprise a woman with a lot of things that aren't necessarily dangerous or reckless. Sure but I was thinking of the 'unpredictability' in terms of tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 01:25 AM |
| 1 | Many young women HIGHLY undervalue 'safe and predictable' behavior which incentivizes more toxic behavior that those same women love to complain aboutSure, but if you are specifically attracted to people (men or women) who have a degree of confidence (earned or otherwise), a certain sense of danger, unpredictability and recklessness, a disregard for rules, the ability to dominate and manipulate others and make people want to impress them, we shouldn't then be surprised if far more narcissists and sociopaths come-a-knockin than 'normal people'. To be clear I am attracted to all of these traits to some degree, so having to filter for 'the good … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 12:41 AM |
| 6 | Many young women HIGHLY undervalue 'safe and predictable' behavior which incentivizes more toxic behavior that those same women love to complain aboutIt's nowhere near a 1:1 correlation but I think there is a large overlap of traits to be found on an 'exciting' man and a dangerous narcissist/sociopath. Though I think this is equally true for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 12:27 AM |
| – | Average men don't struggle in datingWhen I think of the men I know who have never struggled with dating, who have lots of casual sex, who have a new girlfriend almost straight after breaking up, who cheat easily and often (not that I condone this to be clear), none of them are very tall, muscular, rich 'chads'. In fact I'd say there's maybe a stones throw of difference between them and some other guys I know, for whom even holding hands with a girl is a near-impossible dream. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 11:00 AM |
| 6 | As we approach the 25th anniversary of Shrek, what do you think about the film's commentary on gender issues?Solid film, one of my favourites as a kid. I don't think it really intends to say much about gender role stuff in particular. 'Female protagonist who is both conventionally attractive and an elite fighter' is a much older movie/TV trope than Shrek. I think Shrek 2 (which is an absolute masterpiece) has some interesting (if perhaps unintentional) things to say on gender roles. That line where Shrek is told by the villain that no amount of magic will change the fact that he's an ogre doesn't seem … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/04/26 09:19 AM |
| 1 | Do you think women's aversion of helping men in the dating/sexual context is biological or societal?How specific do you need me to be? Are we talking solely people I introduced to each other, people who met socially through both knowing me, people who were sort of aware of each other but were 'officially' introduced through me? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/26 08:56 AM |
| 3 | Do you think women's aversion of helping men in the dating/sexual context is biological or societal?I made up a percentage off the top of my head. Point is I'd say more of the people I introduced hit it off than didn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/26 08:52 AM |
| 7 | Do you think women's aversion of helping men in the dating/sexual context is biological or societal?I'd give it about a 55% success rate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/26 08:45 AM |
| 8 | Do you think women's aversion of helping men in the dating/sexual context is biological or societal?I mean, I have set up female friends whom I'm not personally attracted to with people who I think would be into them and who they would jam with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/26 08:39 AM |
| 3 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADWhat is it about us hairy blokes that makes some women unable to keep the revulsion off their faces while others go into full hungry lioness mode? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 10:05 PM |
| 1 | What do woman mean by when they say its good dick?Thanks for this. As you said, one of the things you really enjoy about a large one is something that many other women hate. And that's OK. Many (if not most) men in the Western World hate female body hair while I think it's one of the sexiest things about a woman. Personally as someone who is smaller than average in that department while otherwise being big and strong, I've dated large and/or tall women before and it has never caused a problem. While I am (if I say so myself) very skilled with f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 07:51 PM |
| 1 | What do woman mean by when they say its good dick?Thank you for this. Very informative. FWIW the group of sex positive women I mentioned is very mixed, and the Black women within are as uninterested in Big Ones as the rest. I imagine this kind of stuff is hugely dependent on culture and geography (I am in the UK if that helps?). And the male I mentioned who has trouble keeping a relationship because the women found it too big is a White man who is otherwise fairly decent looking. I do agree that there is a level of nuance to dominant/submissive… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 12:44 PM |
| 19 | What do woman mean by when they say its good dick?As someone who is very much below average in that regard and have had numerous women call me the best they've had, I cannot relate to anything you're saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 10:25 AM |
| 5 | What do woman mean by when they say its good dick?Genuine question (and absolutely none of my business): Do you have more submissive desires? Only reason I ask is that while I'm fortunate enough to have many 'sex positive' female friends who are comfortable being open about what turns them on, I have never met a size queen in real life (for comparison 'height queens' are fairly common but nowhere near as universal as the Internet would have us believe). Those women found the idea of a big one inside them horrifying, and the few who have had the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 10:21 AM |
| – | Do you feel shame about desiring women?I was raised very religious, as well as being sexually assaulted (by an older girl) at the age of 8. Plus being an unattractive, unpopular, poor teenager in a school full of middle class conventionally attractive people, including girls who would gleefully inflict sexual humiliation on unpopular boys. And then growing to like something that isn't seen as 'conventionally' desirable (see my flair), which some women could easily perceive as being weird or 'creepy' in the same way as having a foot f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 07:19 AM |
| – | Why do men think qualities that are impressive are not the bare minimum women want?I think having enough humility to be willing to listen about what women actually want in the bedroom, not assuming every woman is turned on by the same things and just blundering in thinking what made your ex gf orgasm will work with the person you're seeing now. If she was attracted to you before, being unable to satisfy her will cause the attraction to weaken very quickly. I'd go as far as to say that in the early stages of the relationship men should always operate under a 'she comes first' m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/26 10:42 AM |
| 11 | Q4W: Do you actually pursue men you like?Threatening us with a good time again! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/26 06:37 PM |
| – | Personality and efforts are the biggest lie of all timeWhat people fail to realise is that there is a huge physical element to 'personality'. It's not just about whether you are 'nice' or 'mean', or whether you like the same things as another person, or whether you are Left Wing or Right Wing or have 'compatible values' or even whether you are 'fun to be around'. All of the above makes up maybe 10-20% of what constitutes 'personality'. Things like body language, posture, the way a person walks, speech style, vocal mannerisms, the way a person sits e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/26 12:58 PM |
| 15 | Do you think that women have responsive desire?The trouble is that the line between spontaneous/responsive desire is much blurrier than we'd think. If a man is not horny, byt becomes horny from seeing an attractive woman, is that spontaneous or responsive? If a man enjoys foreplay involving women dressing a certain way or behaving in a certain way in the bedroom before copulation, isn't that closer to responsive desire? Personally I have had drunk or coked up women practically forcing themselves onto me within barely a minute of meeting. And… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/26 12:49 PM |
| 1 | Women should have higher standardsMakes a bit too much sense if you ask me... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/26 10:57 AM |
| 10 | Men dont being anything to the tableI am a very good cook. I assure you my GF's table is always adorned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 10:51 AM |
| 28 | Does the left not understand they're inadvertently validating what the manosphere has been saying about them when they make insults regarding men's bodies?So if this situation was reversed, and 'one of the few elected officials fighting back' was a male who made a similar remark about a female right wing MAGA figure, maybe mentioning weight, breast size etc, and feminists treated that as a 'mask off moment' and demanded the Left cancel that man, would you also be calling that a petty grievance? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/03/26 05:32 PM |
| 24 | "Educate your son."https://youthendowmentfund.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/CVV24_R3_Gender.pdf Pg 22 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/26 03:33 PM |
| 41 | "Educate your son."https://youthendowmentfund.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/CVV24_R3_Gender.pdf Pg 22 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/26 03:33 PM |
| 121 | "Educate your son."Contrary to common perceptions, boys report experiencing higher rates of violent and controlling behaviours from their partners compared to girls. Fifty-seven per cent of boys in relationships say they’ve experienced at least one violent or controlling behaviour from their partner, compared to 41% of girls. This is equivalent to 16% and 11% of all 13-17-year-old boys and girls, respectively. Thirty-seven per cent of boys report that a partner has gone through their phone or social media, compare… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/26 11:35 AM |
| 73 | Major funding boost to divert women from a life of crimeLast time I checked, the majority of imprisoned are men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/03/26 09:04 PM |
| 86 | ‘Second chance’: why minister wants to jail fewer women in England and Wales | Prisons and probationOnce again the issue of imprisonment - an almost entirely male issue - has focus given to the one demographic least likely to suffer from it. James Timpson, the CEO turned prisons minister of England and Wales, thinks women like Pat do not belong behind bars. During a visit last week to Alana House, a women’s centre in Reading run by the charity Pact, which provides support for women in the criminal justice system, Lord Timpson told former prisoners about his parents fostering 90 children during… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/03/26 05:01 PM |
| 28 | Should there be a Minister for Men and Boys?Interesting that to some groups, men's problems are still being filed only as 'cross-societal issues'. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/03/26 02:28 PM |
| 4 | Almost all women in the developed world are dating men out of their leagueSpeaking as a hairy man, we are great. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/26 05:46 AM |
| 7 | Biological Determinism and the Dismissal of Men's IssuesTradCon men and Tradcon women are bad, but TradFems (emphasise on the T) are equally harmful. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/26 01:24 PM |
| 2 | “Men want love too” until you explain that relationships should NOT be seen as the cost of sex.I have seen at best a few red/blackpillers say this sort of thing, and it is considered an extreme opinion. I certainly haven't seen it brought up anywhere near as much as Lilith brings it up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 08:02 PM |
| 5 | “Men want love too” until you explain that relationships should NOT be seen as the cost of sex.I refer you to my previous statement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 07:21 PM |
| 11 | “Men want love too” until you explain that relationships should NOT be seen as the cost of sex.Um…. TALKING? LAUGHING? Wanting to spend hours and hours and hours even merely hanging out? All things you can do with many close male and female friends. I usually do coffee dates too for first dates, or something similarly inexpensive. And yet it hasn't stopped the other person from showing physical interest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 07:18 PM |
| 12 | “Men want love too” until you explain that relationships should NOT be seen as the cost of sex.It's not insecure to want someone who has agreed to go on a date with you to show they actually want to be there and are interested in the potential of a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 07:12 PM |
| 13 | “Men want love too” until you explain that relationships should NOT be seen as the cost of sex.I refer you to my previous statement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 07:08 PM |
| 12 | “Men want love too” until you explain that relationships should NOT be seen as the cost of sex.I haven't seen this anywhere near as often as you posting about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 07:08 PM |
| 15 | “Men want love too” until you explain that relationships should NOT be seen as the cost of sex.I haven't seen it anywhere near as much as Lilith posts about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 07:06 PM |
| 19 | “Men want love too” until you explain that relationships should NOT be seen as the cost of sex.So why do men complain about not having sex right away? As I've been trying to tell Lilith, we don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 07:01 PM |
| 13 | “Men want love too” until you explain that relationships should NOT be seen as the cost of sex.It's absolutely stupid to expect a person to display some signs they are physically attracted to you and are interested in the potential for a relationship? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 07:00 PM |
| 15 | “Men want love too” until you explain that relationships should NOT be seen as the cost of sex.It's more the fact that everything you say when you bring up this topic a bunch of times is factually incorrect, so it's better for everyone here to shut it down with facts before it gains any traction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 06:57 PM |
| 15 | “Men want love too” until you explain that relationships should NOT be seen as the cost of sex.Well it's up to the people in question about whether they choose to go on a date with a complete stranger. But regardless, if a person goes on the date and the other person doesn't display any signs of physical attraction, they'd be well within their rights to not proceed any further. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 06:56 PM |
| 8 | “Men want love too” until you explain that relationships should NOT be seen as the cost of sex.I personally haven't seen this other than from a few red/blackpillers. I certainly haven't seen it said anywhere near as much as Lilith posts about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 06:54 PM |
| 9 | “Men want love too” until you explain that relationships should NOT be seen as the cost of sex.Then those people are as ignorant as Lilith. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 06:49 PM |
| 13 | “Men want love too” until you explain that relationships should NOT be seen as the cost of sex.Then why don’t men say this instead of saying “if she doesn’t sleep with you on the first date she’s not into you”. Nobody is saying this. Lilith just thinks that's what we all think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 06:48 PM |
| 100 | “Men want love too” until you explain that relationships should NOT be seen as the cost of sex.Copypasted from one of the last several times you've posted this topic. When me and my GF started dating, we didn't have sex on the first date. The logistics just weren't convenient. We lived in different places, and we both had work in the morning. BUT, she was very affectionate throughout the date. Lots of physical touching, kisses-on-cheek, cuddling, hand holding, etc. And we kissed at the end. We dated for another 5 weeks or so before we ended up having sex, and we met at least once a week. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 06:43 PM |
| 28 | Thoughts on the post hoc justification of calling men creepy or viewing them as sexual predatorsI can semi relate to this. I was one of the few Asian kids in a predominantly White British school. It was quite common for the 'popular' girls to sexually harass unattractive/unpopular boys. While I don't believe this was racially driven (unpopular White boys were also treated like this, and not all the popular girls were White), being awkward, ugly, poor, having shitty clothes and hygiene and being poorly groomed were all implicitly attributed to being an 'Asian kid'. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/02/26 03:01 PM |
| 28 | The Lost Boys: How do you help fatherless teens who ask: 'Am I the problem?'A good article showing some positive progress, but still struggles to engage with the pressures young men are under and why so many men feel discouraged from becoming teachers. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/02/26 11:57 AM |
| 9 | The Entire Democratic Spectrum Shames Short MenHas anyone tried to justify it by saying that by being a good person she is spiritually something else? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/02/26 09:33 AM |
| 19 | The Entire Democratic Spectrum Shames Short MenI haven't seen any examples of this myself, but assuming it is true, it almost certainly comes from right wingers seeking to discredit her. And she and her supporters would (very rightly) call it out for the cheap and childish insult it is. Absolutely nobody would try to justify it with claims that AOC's voice is spiritually deep and that people who disagree with her have spiritually high pitched voices. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/02/26 09:31 PM |
| 63 | The Entire Democratic Spectrum Shames Short Men(Reposting an earlier comment on this topic) I wonder what would happen if somebody was to say that AOC speaks with a shrill, childlike, whiny voice that absolutely nobody would take seriously in the position of leadership she very obviously desires. But that's fine because if AOC talks sense (which, credit where it's due, she usually does, though she is very wrong on this topic) then she spiritually is speaking with a deep, authoritative, serious (ergo, masculine-coded) voice. I wonder what the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/02/26 08:53 PM |
| – | The feminist narrative of 30+ men’s preference for younger (18-25) women being due to their inability to get women their age is one of the most laughable things I’ve ever heardThe link between unhealthy offspring and and the age of the mother is weak unless the mother is exceptionally old. Men don't look at a gorgeous 21 year old and think about her financial contribution or her maturity level, they see the peak of health, vitality, and beauty. Calling them financial drains is just moving the goalposts from biology to accounting. Almost like men are in fact rational beings who do think of whether a person would make a good partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/26 07:58 PM |
| – | The feminist narrative of 30+ men’s preference for younger (18-25) women being due to their inability to get women their age is one of the most laughable things I’ve ever heardYes, there have been pockets of history in which women and men removed their body hair, usually as a social status symbol or for religious ritualism. Islam, for example, demands both males and females remove their pubic hair. But those times are very much the exception that proves the rule. Women have been hairy for incalculably longer than all the times body hair removal was the norm put together. And the current trend of body hair removal as a near-exclusively female tradition is entirely a We… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/26 07:24 PM |
| – | The feminist narrative of 30+ men’s preference for younger (18-25) women being due to their inability to get women their age is one of the most laughable things I’ve ever heardCan't put into words how visually striking it is seeing the hair on the thighs leading into the hair on the special place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/26 06:02 PM |
| – | The feminist narrative of 30+ men’s preference for younger (18-25) women being due to their inability to get women their age is one of the most laughable things I’ve ever heardLife is too short to not do things you enjoy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/26 05:07 PM |
| – | The feminist narrative of 30+ men’s preference for younger (18-25) women being due to their inability to get women their age is one of the most laughable things I’ve ever heardI'm inclined to agree. A hairy lady ignites a deep primal instinct, that this is a fully sexually mature, sexually aggressive woman in her prime, with absolutely no trace of 'girlishness'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/26 04:57 PM |
| – | The feminist narrative of 30+ men’s preference for younger (18-25) women being due to their inability to get women their age is one of the most laughable things I’ve ever heardGenuine good faith question here: How is what the guy above said different to your original statement? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/26 04:24 PM |
| – | The feminist narrative of 30+ men’s preference for younger (18-25) women being due to their inability to get women their age is one of the most laughable things I’ve ever heardGiven that sperm is evolutionarily 'cheap', it doesn't make much sense for males to have a 'universal' or even a 'strong' preference for younger women. Their investment in reproduction is minimal and easily replenished, so even if male attraction was based solely around fertility (which it isn't), there shouldn't be a huge evolutionarily pressure to select the 'most fertile' female. Personally I don't find women that age particularly interesting romantically. A lot of them still resemble teenage… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/26 04:21 PM |
| 2 | ‘emotional labor’ and ‘physical labor’ are more about partner selection and not genderedThe thing I don't understand about the 'emotional labour' conversation is that it's very normalised for a woman to refer to her BF/Husband as 'her rock', expecting him to be 'the strong one' in the relationship. What is that if not emotional labour? And also, when a family suffers a loss/tragedy, it is the men and even boys who are expected to 'be strong for wife/daughter/mother/sister etc'. Again, what is that if not emotional labour? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/26 02:20 PM |
| 1 | What do you like about men?Curse you with that nasty sense you're talking... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/26 03:29 PM |
| 21 | Dear Feminist Lurkers,Feminism is not anti conservatism. It has always leaned conservative on the roles of men in society. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/26 10:49 AM |
| 3 | The constant characterization of male sexuality as something 'dirty' needs to stop.If you have ever worked in an office you will know that is not the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/26 05:36 PM |
| 10 | The constant characterization of male sexuality as something 'dirty' needs to stop.I mean the requirement for them to shave their legs and all other body hair, making their bodies appear prepubescent and virginal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/26 12:09 PM |
| 7 | The constant characterization of male sexuality as something 'dirty' needs to stop.I think it's rooted in purity culture, in the sense that female bodies are seen as 'beautiful' so long as they are stripped of sexual maturity while male bodies (and male sexuality) are seen as inherently disgusting and not for display in any kind of 'formal' environment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/26 11:54 AM |
| 11 | The constant characterization of male sexuality as something 'dirty' needs to stop.Lets not pretend women haven't also had a significant influence over fashion etc over the last half century or so, and haven't also been in a position to enforce dress codes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/26 11:12 AM |
| 2 | The constant characterization of male sexuality as something 'dirty' needs to stop.I'm sure you're very attracted to women with bodies resembling those of prepubescent girls, but I for one am not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/26 11:10 AM |
| 5 | The constant characterization of male sexuality as something 'dirty' needs to stop.My girlfriend wears plain smart trousers to major meetings all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/26 10:57 AM |
| 8 | The constant characterization of male sexuality as something 'dirty' needs to stop.In my workplace the women can wear short skirts, long skirts, long dresses, loose dresses, knee-length dresses, skirt-shorts, loose dresses or tight dresses, up to and including women who are director-level and above. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/26 10:38 AM |
| 6 | The constant characterization of male sexuality as something 'dirty' needs to stop.They can wear trousers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/26 10:36 AM |
| 4 | The constant characterization of male sexuality as something 'dirty' needs to stop.Oh good grief Have I caused discomfort? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/26 09:41 AM |
| 15 | The constant characterization of male sexuality as something 'dirty' needs to stop.Numerous women in positions of social, economic and political power wear trouser suits or clothes that otherwise do not reveal bare flesh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/26 08:57 AM |
| 23 | The constant characterization of male sexuality as something 'dirty' needs to stop.Don't do it then. You will not be penalised in the workplace for not doing so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/26 08:52 AM |
| 15 | The constant characterization of male sexuality as something 'dirty' needs to stop.At least its more practical and better for physical and mental wellbeing than the 'freedom' for us men to wear full-length trousers and shirts at work when it's roasting with heat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/26 08:47 AM |
| 22 | The constant characterization of male sexuality as something 'dirty' needs to stop.they can display themselves in this way. Read it again. The point is that they can present themselves this way (but do not have to) while men face social and professional penalties for doing so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/26 08:39 AM |
| 3 | The constant characterization of male sexuality as something 'dirty' needs to stop.Well, of late, women have been trying to normalize dressing scantily even without shaving or waxing body hair. Sure, but there are of course significant social penalties for this (source, my GF doesn't shave), from both men and other women. So overall, I'd say it is significantly more misandrist. Making it a vs thing or an either/or thing doesn't help either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/26 08:36 AM |
| 145 | The constant characterization of male sexuality as something 'dirty' needs to stop.When a couple get married, the bride's dress can show as much or as little of her body as she wants. The groom will almost always be limited to a full suit. The implications are clear: The female form is an object of beauty, the male form is an object of utility. This is true even in the office workplace. Women can wear trousers, skirts, dresses, and even 'skirt-shorts' aren't disallowed. Men can't wear shorts even in the very height of summer (and even short-sleeves are contentious in some work… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/26 08:13 AM |
| – | If it was about women being consistent with their sexual behavior, then it would make more sense for men to pursue women who makes everyone wait for sex.You make this same post multiple times a week and I've never bothered to engage with these blatant bad faith takes, but fuck it, why the hell not? When me and my GF started dating, we didn't have sex on the first date. The logistics just weren't convenient. We lived in different places, and we both had work in the morning. BUT, she was very affectionate throughout the date. Lots of physical touching, kisses-on-cheek, cuddling, hand holding, etc. And we kissed at the end. We dated for another 5 w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/26 10:14 AM |
| 8 | Women have a much bigger problem accepting when a men is not dominant, then men accepting when a women is not submissiveTo be fair a lot of men don't realise they are submissive/women don't realise they are dominant when they aren't involved in kink/bdsm stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/26 05:36 AM |
| 5 | Women’s standards are not high in the leastGenuinely I know a lot of course who are decent looking (as in, there is nothing noticeably ugly about them) who are perpetually single and have been for 10+ years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/26 02:55 PM |
| 32 | Small penis insults are NOT used to ridicule actual insecure behaviourSo rename it 'evil person energy' and stop associating insecurities that perfectly decent people may have with actual monsters. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/02/26 02:43 PM |
| 29 | Small penis insults are NOT used to ridicule actual insecure behaviourSo if Trump pulled his trousers down on live television and revealed himself to have an absolutely enormous cock, is it still appropriate to trace his evil actions to a genuine insecurity that many men who have not done those things happen to have? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/02/26 02:41 PM |
| 118 | Small penis insults are NOT used to ridicule actual insecure behaviourthe insult is that your poor behavior seems to be an effect of insecurity. This doesn't actually make it better, because the implication still presents the person having a small penis/being short/whatever other physical flaws men have as the cause of the behaviour by proxy of insecurity. Much like that heightshaming post about the ICE officer a few weeks back, which was full of comments justifying it with (paraphrased) things like "some of the best people I know are short. Doesn't change the fac… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/02/26 12:56 PM |
| – | Generally speaking, men never get to reveal "relationship skills" to women. They get filtered out long before that. This drives a lot of male romantic loneliness.I have been borderline sexually assaulted by very conventionally attractive women and been given an "Ew, no!" by women who weren't conventionally attractive at all. "Leagues" based on who you attract are meaningless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/26 10:21 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: what is something you think guys overestimate women care about in dating?As someone who went from skinny to muscular, 95% of the compliments I've received are from men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/26 08:02 PM |
| – | did social institutions break female sexual selection , and are short men’s sons the one dealing with it nowIn my experience from being friends with lots of 'sex positive' women who are happy discussing their preferences, it's nowhere near universal but it is a common preference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/26 12:53 PM |
| 13 | Interpretations of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs highlights a disconnect between the level of importance men and women place on sexNot sure I've personally seen anyone argue that it is a genuine base-level need for men's survival (although I have no doubt the fringe lunatics will claim that). The only time I've seen Maslow used in these discussions is the (correct in my view) point that men need 'love and belonging' before they can 'love themselves' or 'work on themselves'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/26 11:15 AM |
| 2 | The Red Pill advice for women is lameIn what fucking world is that shitposting? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/26 02:05 PM |
| 3 | The Red Pill advice for women is lameHold me down and ravish me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/26 01:50 PM |
| 13 | The Red Pill advice for women is lameI see your point but my GF is a healthy weight and appears 'slim' in pretty much any outfit. However, her natural build isnt 'conventionally' thin.. She has quite broad shoulders for a woman (made more noticeable by the fact she's a very short woman) and has naturally muscular arms and legs. She's very obviously healthy but she'll never be an instagram model. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/26 12:25 PM |
| 6 | The Red Pill advice for women is lameWe're rational people who are capable of collaborating and admitting when we're wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/26 11:55 AM |
| 8 | The Red Pill advice for women is lameWhat does 'fun to be around' even mean? Isn't that a basic requirement for both partners in a relationship? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/26 11:50 AM |
| 14 | The Red Pill advice for women is lameLearn to cook My GF can barely boil an egg and I do not want her to. A real man takes care of his lady. Do laundry. Keep the home organized and clean. Both partners should make an effort towards household tasks. Stay thin Ehh, my GF goes to the gym 4-5 times a week and eats very healthily but she is naturally short and stocky. She'll never have the instagram model physique, nor do I want her to. I also keep myself fit and strong for her. Be sexy, learn to seduce him. Initiate sex with him. Have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/26 11:44 AM |
| 30 | Family accuse Met Police of failures after gay student found dead in hotel | ITV NewsPretty appalling homophobia and anti-gay-male stereotyping from the police. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/01/26 03:23 PM |
| 1 | If she wants you, the sex doesn't matterAs someone who is very much not blessed in that regard, it has never caused any kind of problem for me relationship wise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/26 09:43 AM |
| 9 | Why would you treat a woman who really likes you worse?A woman that genuinely likes you and is attracted to you often wants nice treatment from you more than some girl who doesn’t care. For most women, it actually feels good to be courted by a man they have feelings for. What is 'nice' treatment? And what is 'courting'? When me and my GF first started dating we'd have at least one date a week, and you know what, she was just as willing to suggest and plan them as I was, we would always split or take it in turns to get rounds. We were both giving eac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/26 08:54 PM |
| 7 | Are there men who want a traditional family, but also can have a healthy amount of emotional intelligence?Not only willing but it is my absolute dream. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/26 08:48 PM |
| 7 | Are there men who want a traditional family, but also can have a healthy amount of emotional intelligence?Honestly/bluntly, even if I was in a position to be the primary provider, I would not want to do so. I have had provider and household management responsibilities for my chronically ill (as well as likely autistic and intellectually disabled) mother for most of my adult/working life, and to be honest I hate it with a passion. I would like to have kids one day but I do not ever want to be in a position where it is my income and employment that is keeping them fed and housed. Regarding the empathy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/26 08:45 PM |
| 2 | What do you think is the best solution for dismantling the supposed "patriarchy"?Can't these chains are too tight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/26 06:44 PM |
| 2 | What do you think is the best solution for dismantling the supposed "patriarchy"?men are basically work animals who are chained to the basement. They get wifi to make money for the house, 3 bathroom breaks a day, and get milked when women want babies. Damn you for threatening us with a good time! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/26 02:39 PM |
| – | What build should average height men pursue?I feel the same about women with shaved legs, arms, underarms etc for exactly the same reasons, even though most other men seem to prefer it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/26 02:43 PM |
| – | Chasing women is actually a waste of time.At no point have I entertained these advances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/26 01:20 PM |
| – | Chasing women is actually a waste of time.I was disputing OP's point that if women like you (or they like 'Chad') they will make everything easy and you won't have to do any 'chasing'. My point is that women are socialised to actively not go after men. To be clear I have never entertained these drunken advances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/26 10:44 AM |
| – | Chasing women is actually a waste of time.I've had women in my life, friends-of-friends or work colleagues etc, who never showed any kind of interest in me. Not a lingering stare or a 'friendly' tap on the arm or any kind of flirtatious behaviour. Then suddenly they've had a drink or a line and are attempting to eat my face off. It really can't be overstated how much they're socialised to be the passive actors in relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/26 09:41 AM |
| – | What build should average height men pursue?Being a hairy man is so weird. I've had potential ONS's get the ick the moment I took my shirt off and she saw how hairy I was. Meanwhile at my work Christmas party a month ago I opened my top shirt button exposing my chest hair, and a very drunk female colleague started going on about how hot and manly chest hair is and repeatedly attempting to touch my chest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/26 08:18 AM |
| 2 | Men can also desire a small percentage of the population. They just pretend it’s the average woman.You've admitted that 'losers' struggle much more than 'felons'. So it's not just 'ego stroking ' or misogyny or whatever you want to call it this week. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/26 01:22 PM |
| 2 | Men can also desire a small percentage of the population. They just pretend it’s the average woman.Ergo the complaints you're constantly whining about on here are actually legit. Thank you for confirming. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/26 01:14 PM |
| 2 | Men can also desire a small percentage of the population. They just pretend it’s the average woman.'Dan from IT' is not a real person. More a caricature based on some people I know. There's nothing noticeably ugly about them physically, they have decent, stable jobs. And yes, they are nice people and not misogynistic in the slightest. All our male and female friends speak highly of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/26 01:11 PM |
| 2 | Men can also desire a small percentage of the population. They just pretend it’s the average woman.Why is the loser in prison appealing to a larger population of women than the loser electrician/accountant/IT guy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/26 01:08 PM |
| 1 | Men can also desire a small percentage of the population. They just pretend it’s the average woman.The argument, again, is 'why is being a bit of a boring loser appealing to a much smaller population of women than being a violent and reprehensible felon'? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/26 01:02 PM |
| 2 | Men can also desire a small percentage of the population. They just pretend it’s the average woman.I suppose the argument is that 'felons' as you call them have multiple women spending their time and money to visit and support them in prison while your mate Dan from IT who isn't bad looking and has a solid career but has a bit of a 'loser' personality hasn't had a text back in five years, a coffee date in ten and has never held hands with a woman. I'm not saying I necessarily agree with this, but guys I know like 'Dan' will argue that the 1% of women who want 'felons' is at least many times l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/26 12:51 PM |
| – | Genuine question , what do men get out of this sub or subs similar to this.I mean, I can't make women other than my GF (or even my GF herself, SHE could change her mind and decide to start shaving again and theres nothing i could do about it) be hairy just because i find it attractive. All I can do is highlight these evil societal pressures and encourage women (and men) to fight against them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/26 09:24 AM |
| – | Genuine question , what do men get out of this sub or subs similar to this.I got my hairy woman already. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/26 07:43 PM |
| – | Genuine question , what do men get out of this sub or subs similar to this.I'm here because I'm fascinated by the dynamics of gender, dating, attraction etc and the human implications of it, as well as the interest in where and how attractions actually develop and why. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/26 07:25 PM |
| 2 | How can dating work efficiently in a world without gender norms?As the top of my comment above says, feminism is and always has been conservative-leaning when it comes to the role of men in society, and so genuine Egalitarian will not be found through that framework | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/26 05:07 PM |
| 9 | How can dating work efficiently in a world without gender norms?I disagree with your premise. Feminism the ideology has always been conservative-leaning when it comes to the role of men in society. But in answer to your question, I think if you want to speculate about what a gender role free world, you have to look at people and places where gender roles aren’t normalised, or aren't as normalised. Giving examples from my own experiences: Women raised in the poor area I grew up in where promiscuity was the norm (for both women and men) had no qualms about bei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/26 03:40 PM |
| 3 | Traditionalism and feminism: two sides of the same coinEh, I'm Ex Muslim so I'm pretty comfortable calling calling Islam an outright misogynistic ideology. Probably the most misogynistic ideology ever created. Though I do find it interesting that Western Feninists are completely and utterly hoodwinked into believing the hijab/burka are feminist symbols to be celebrated even though they represent the misogynistic worldview of purity/modesty culture. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/01/26 10:51 AM |
| 28 | Traditionalism and feminism: two sides of the same coinI was talking about this with someone the other day. As much as I dislike feminism, the framing of women as these innocent, pure, vulnerable, eternal victims who need to be protected and shielded is very much something that predates feminism and is very much the bedrock of traditional gender roles. The male is the 'patriarch' only because he is responsible for the protection and comfort of his wife and family, although its only fair to say this does come with some privileges too. Feminism takes … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/26 11:42 AM |
| -1 | Does the "most average people are in relationships" argument work for women too?Guys don't date women for their career or finances. Guys don't want to indefinitely finance someone's lifestyle either. Could also mean she's less impressed and has higher expectations. AKA higher maintenance. Depends on the person. Plenty of beautiful young women that don't even have to put all that effort into looking good. It takes a lot of effort and competence to look put-together and classy. Otherwise it's just congrats on your face/body but who gives a fuck? Men are attracted to youthful … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 05:09 PM |
| 7 | Does the "most average people are in relationships" argument work for women too?I think the only thing you're looking for in a woman can be easily replaced by your right hand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 12:49 PM |
| 13 | Does the "most average people are in relationships" argument work for women too?Today I learned that it was bluepill to be attracted to women who are experienced, intelligent, competent, stylish and charismatic instead of 20 year old who look and act like teenage girls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 12:44 PM |
| 9 | Does the "most average people are in relationships" argument work for women too?It takes a lot of things to make a person 'hot'. Fashion, the thing you sneer at, plays a vital part in how the appearance of both women and men is perceived. And an experienced 30 year old will understand how to put something stylish together far more than a 20 year old who lives in jeans and trainers. You say income is not an issue but most men will eventually become frustrated at having to finance the lifestyle of a broke 20 year old. Life experience? Good luck expecting a 20 year old to unde… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 12:42 PM |
| 5 | Does the "most average people are in relationships" argument work for women too?See my flair | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 12:16 PM |
| 24 | Does the "most average people are in relationships" argument work for women too?Career established and likely far more financially stable. Likely more confident and charismatic More life experience so more interesting things to talk about. Almost certainly more stylish and competent with fashion and beauty By that point any physical trace of teenage girl-ness will be long gone. I'm really struggling to see how the 20 year old can contend at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 12:01 PM |
| 2 | Men you’re not mad at women, you’re just scared of rejectionYes. A good amount of incels and foreveralones have likely experienced severe childhood trauma. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 11:35 AM |
| 19 | Does the "most average people are in relationships" argument work for women too?The woman herself is likely far superior at 30 to her 20 year old self. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 11:17 AM |
| 16 | It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive.Nobody should have to date anybody they don't want to. Doesn't mean we can't judge people based on their preferences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 12:43 PM |
| 11 | How to Define "Good" vs "Bad" FeminismCool. Keep talking about intersectionality and microaggressions while Trump and his overseas counterparts shit on the entire working class. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/01/26 04:00 PM |
| 9 | How to Define "Good" vs "Bad" FeminismAs a POC the person above is absolutely right. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/01/26 03:28 PM |
| 47 | How to Define "Good" vs "Bad" FeminismIt's an interesting one. I know people who identify as feminist or even radfems but at the same time genuinely believe in men's issues, not just through a "the patriarchy hurts men too" lens but genuinely acknowledging that there are aspects of society in which women are comparatively privileged. They are genuinely helpful and passionate about mens issues, but still fall into the trap of believing 'feminism is for men too'. That said, I do believe that feminism the ideology has always been conse… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/01/26 12:53 PM |
| 38 | Circumcision classed as possible child abuse in draft CPS documentI despise the current UK government but this is good. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/01/26 12:38 PM |
| 15 | Feminist's complete lack of empathy for intactivism is very offputting.Imprisonment, homelessness, wars, workplace deaths, suicide. How can you be on this sub and still need to have this conversation? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/01/26 11:15 AM |
| 17 | Curious to hear from trans men about misandryAs bad and terrible as a 'man up' socialisation is, it at least has some justification in preparing us from early childhood for the reality of adult male existence. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/01/26 06:06 AM |
| 2 | Dressing for myself.So dressing lightly is equivalent to sleeping around? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/26 05:58 PM |
| 2 | Kneeling to propose is a humiliation ritual intended to subliminally prep men for the drudgery of married life.act of submission to a woman You say it like its a bad thang! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/26 05:48 PM |
| 4 | Kneeling to propose is a humiliation ritual intended to subliminally prep men for the drudgery of married life.Kneeling to give her oral on the other hand is great. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/26 05:31 PM |
| 6 | Dressing for myself.I'm in England where it's cold, wet and miserable for most of the year. You can bet a hairy cunt that I have no objection to my GF wearing light and comfortable clothing in the brief time it's warm here. Besides which, women in hijabs and burkas still get sexual attention from horny men (source: my mum wears one of those ghastly things). It's cliche to say but clothing choices don't do much to deter or weaken male sexual instincts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/26 03:22 PM |
| 20 | The Left Has An Insatiable Desire to Body Shame Short MenImagine that 'left wing' politicians are so morally and ideologically bankrupt that they'd rather imply the literal nazi is a nazi because he's short instead of attacking his nazi ideology for what it is. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/01/26 04:30 PM |
| 1 | Would you find it weird or embarrassing if your long term girlfriend proposed to you?Wait what are the "non-feminine" things she isn't allowed to do other than this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 11:31 AM |
| 2 | Would you find it weird or embarrassing if your long term girlfriend proposed to you?I'd find it rather flattering to be honest | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 11:29 AM |
| 35 | The Left Has An Insatiable Desire to Body Shame Short MenWhen AOC issued her "apology," she not only insulted everyone's intelligence with her "Andrew Tate is tall, but he's spiritually short" nonsense, but she also readily admitted that she equates character with height. I wonder what would happen if somebody was to say that AOC speaks with a shrill, childlike, whiny voice that absolutely nobody would take seriously in the position of leadership she very obviously desires. But that's fine because if AOC talks sense (which, credit where it's due, she … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/01/26 11:12 AM |
| 6 | Misogyny is often mistaken for confidence in online dating spacesI guess the argument (which I don't necessarily agree with) is that a charismatic, popular man with some mid-level misogynistic views (like disliking promiscuous/sexually active women, believing women aren't as capable as men, believing women should be submissive and should be led by a man, believing women should present themselves in certain ways etc) is much more successful with women than your mate Dan from IT, who might not be a feminist but has a genuinely egalitarian worldview, but hasn't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/26 06:48 AM |
| 21 | The Manosphere Preys on Immaturity, Not Misogyny or EntitlementThe manosphere prays on the fact that women's roles in society have (rightfully) become much more expanded and fluid, while men's have... not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/26 08:35 PM |
| 1 | The cocky dude with a don't-give-a-fuck attitude toward life will be more attractive to women than the nice, soft-spoken man who attends therapywhat misunderstanding is there? The issue have with "nice guys" is any way they go about being entitled and whether that is lashing out at a woman who rejected with in person or when making bitter comments acting like they deserve women because they claim they are nice when obviously they are actually nice. genuine nice people dont act like this. Yes, and this exact scenario takes place maybe... one a million? One in 10 million? Those specific things dont go against a guy being tough, especially… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 07:41 PM |
| – | Sexless men don't exist, only poor men do.Eternal victims... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 05:26 AM |
| 3 | Sexless men don't exist, only poor men do.My GF (who is egalitarian and not a feminist and despises that ideology) offered to split on the first date. There were no theatrics about wanting to be 'taken out' by 'a gentleman'. The ideology of wanting your own liberation while demanding traditional men never crossed her mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 07:20 PM |
| 6 | Sexless men don't exist, only poor men do.Feminism the ideology had always been conservative-leaning when it comes to men's roles in society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 06:25 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women have higher income standards now?Never caused a serious problem for me, and I've dated a fair few girl boss types. Also born and raised in an area with a lot of unemployed no-hoper men (who very much did not look like 'Chad') who had no problems getting laid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/25 11:23 PM |
| 15 | The cocky dude with a don't-give-a-fuck attitude toward life will be more attractive to women than the nice, soft-spoken man who attends therapyReposting what I wrote the last time this came up: I think there is something of a misunderstanding of NiceGuy-ism. The usual strawman is of course that the 'Entitled Nice Guy (TM)' who pretends to be 'nice' to get in your pants and then becomes hostile and aggressive when that doesn't work out. I am not saying that never happens but it is ultimately a strawman, maybe that exact script takes place one in a million times. A lot of my female friends are very sex-positive and will actually tell you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/25 07:42 PM |
| 1 | Ladies: Do PiV orgasms feel more intense or emotionally connecting than clitoral orgasms?I am (if I do say so myself) very talented with my fingers and tongue but my GF still prefers, demands and often initiates PIV. I should also note that I am very much NOT the sort of man a 'size queen' would be into. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/25 07:26 PM |
| 6 | QFW: Assuming you’re talking to a man who is level headed, genuine, and wants to engage in an honest discussion, how do you respond if he believes that “women have it easier in society nowadays” and in turn, “men face way more discrimination”?It's a funny one because my GF is pretty anti-feminist, but does believe in equal rights and equal opportunities, just as I do. One of the things we liked about each other is we're both willing to acknowledge there are some aspects of society in which women have it worse, and some aspects in which men have it worse. It isn't and shouldn't be a pissing contest about who is most disadvantaged in society when ultimately these problems affect all of us and are for all of us to solve. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/25 09:56 AM |
| 7 | At what age range do you wish women would stay physically and mentally forever?very much so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/25 09:28 AM |
| 4 | At what age range do you wish women would stay physically and mentally forever?My GF is in her 30s but has the wisdom, intellect and philosophical musings of someone much older. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/25 09:18 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Looks matter more for women, social skills matter more for men.The only difference between a friend and a girl/boyfriend is physical attractiveness Yes and no. Obviously if you don't meet the physical threshold you'll never be considered, but a person can 'like' your personality without it having the specific personality traits they find desirable. I have female friends who think 'good looking' in a physical sense and yet my personality doesn't turn them on, and I feel the same about them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/25 08:51 AM |
| 9 | Why men still ask women on dates if they don't want to pay?Why do women still go on dates if they don't want to pay? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/25 11:35 AM |
| – | "But I know so many ugly guys who are married !"I am in a relationship so no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/25 06:27 PM |
| – | "But I know so many ugly guys who are married !"If you live in the kind of shithole I grew up in, plenty of ugly, short, bald, teeth missing from too many fights, guys who are also druggies, alcoholics, jobless, and would be homeless if they weren't spending nights with the multiple women they were fucking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/25 02:27 PM |
| 7 | Women contribute a LOT to "nice guy angst".I think there is something of a misunderstanding of NiceGuy-ism. The usual strawman is of course that the 'Entitled Nice Guy (TM)' who pretends to be 'nice' to get in your pants and then becomes hostile and aggressive when that doesn't work out. I am not saying that never happens but it is ultimately a strawman, maybe that exact script takes place one in a million times. A lot of my female friends are very sex-positive and will actually tell you why they aren't attracted to someone rather than j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/25 11:12 AM |
| 2 | What I think people get wrong about whether or not men care about your careerThere was no "main hunter". Hunting megafauna could only be done as a group, and all the evidence suggests females took part in that too. I do agree that males likely played more of a protective role against rival tribes and predators though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/25 05:31 PM |
| 1 | What I think people get wrong about whether or not men care about your careerYou're saying that if she were to strip naked you wouldn't have been attracted? Yes, because I had already decided she had no relationship value as a partner by that point. Hunted? No, unless maybe we're talking about smaller animals, insects, etc. Big game hunting was almost certainly almost always done by men with women playing a supporting role at most. It probably is likely that males hunted more (more strength needed to bring down larger livestock etc) but it doesn't change the anthropologi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/25 05:08 PM |
| 2 | What I think people get wrong about whether or not men care about your careerDid you lose sexual attraction to her or did you just realize that she wasn't what you were looking for and despite how attractive she was this simply was not going to work? The attraction just switched off. As soon as it became clear a relationship was not feasible any level of desire just went away. I mean anyone considered to have high status and showing indications of being an able provider by the standards of the place and time. If you go back to the Paleolithic the most successful hunter w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/25 01:39 PM |
| 6 | What I think people get wrong about whether or not men care about your careerI don't think either gender specifically desires certain careers. Simply having a certain job doesn't make a dick hard or a pussy wet for most people (although there are jobs like doctor, teacher, CEO, police officer etc, which have fetishistic connotations for both men and women). Personally I'm in the UK where higher education (although generally respected) isn't quite as valued as might be in the US or elsewhere. My GF left school at 16 and is in a very high earning director-level role. Speak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/25 11:58 AM |
| 46 | The "Alpha Male": The Scientific Lie That Damaged Generations of MenAnd men have been taught to have no standards besides looks, and if he's not particularly good looking/rich, not even that. Schrodinger's male. Men as a whole are simultaneously responsible for all the evil beauty standards women must conform to, but we're also big dumb animalistic beasts who think solely with our dicks and want to fuck anything that breathes without caring for women as people. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/12/25 11:22 AM |
| 2 | Boys to be taught to respect women and girls as part of curriculumIt's one of those things. I have female friends who've talked very movingly of the times they've been approached, catcalled, followed etc, and how 'walking home at night' is a deeply frightening experience. I believe them and sympathise with them and would never doubt their lived experience. I also have female friends who are conventionally attractive, and who dress lightly in the summer time (largely for comfort reasons) who can count on a single hand the amount of negative experiences they've … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/12/25 06:43 PM |
| – | Suddenly all female preferences are "heckin valid" and not to be questionedAll people have the right to date/not date who they wish. All beauty standards are evil and we as a society should be working to eradicate them. These points are not exclusionary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 08:57 AM |
| 101 | Boys to be taught to respect women and girls as part of curriculumAs per usual, boys are being framed as eternal perpetrators and girls as eternal victims. I'm all for teenagers getting an education on empathy and human decency, but as always only one side are being treated as the villains. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/12/25 04:10 PM |
| 34 | Boys to be taught to respect women and girls as part of curriculum(Paywall) Britain: Boys to be taught to respect women and girls as part of curriculum, lessons will cover how to challenge misogyny, and teachers and parents will be helped to spot if children are being radicalised against women and girls All boys will be taught how to respect women and girls as part of the school curriculum under government plans to “deploy the full power of the state” to crack down on male violence and misogyny. Teachers will give lessons on how children should challenge misog… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/12/25 04:08 PM |
| 3 | The patriarchal agenda: setting up men and women up to fail and be unhappy.I for one enjoy being my girlfriend's servant and protector. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/25 05:30 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Men are not insecure they are just jealous of experienced womenU said your partner's bodycount was twice as you. Does it really make any difference to you or to her? No. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/25 07:51 PM |
| 8 | CMV: Men are not insecure they are just jealous of experienced womenMaybe it's because I've never believed in purity culture or society's collective virgin fetishism, but it's been such an unimportant topic that it's barely even come up in conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/25 07:43 PM |
| 7 | CMV: Men are not insecure they are just jealous of experienced womenMy GF's body count is higher than mine, maybe even twice as high. Never been a problem. She still thinks me and my little todger are the best she's ever had. This is only a problem if you make it such. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/25 07:40 PM |
| 5 | Thoughts on the whole warzone between men and women (Especially the "When you're privileged, equality feels like oppression" sentiment)Those are just, side effects of a patriarchal society. Is that patriarchal society in the room with you right now pal? Look mate, I am not a white male, but was born in and spent my formative years in a predominantly white, working class area. I can absolutely assure you that none of my white male peers growing up were "masters of their own universe". If they (and I) were taught anything it was that life is shit, and nobody was going to save them, so we'd better man up and get the fuck on with i… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/25 07:27 PM |
| 0 | What's the Blue Pill? And what's give you the feeling you are right?I am not bluepill, but I've always classed it as the (disingenuous) mainstream belief that if you do a little bit of self improvement (like exercising and dressing well) and are a nice person, 'the right person will come along'. And if that doesn't happen then maybe you should try exercising in the shower while getting a haircut. And if that doesn't work then it is your fault and you obviously aren't as nice as you think you are, and you need to remember that women don't owe you anything so if y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/25 04:57 PM |
| 5 | Thoughts on the whole warzone between men and women (Especially the "When you're privileged, equality feels like oppression" sentiment)But men have always made up the majority of those statistics, certainly the last 100 years, speaking of which oh and war deaths too. Any working class class man will have known that those things were a strong possibility for them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/25 04:39 PM |
| 3 | Thoughts on the whole warzone between men and women (Especially the "When you're privileged, equality feels like oppression" sentiment)men have an unrealistic world view and the world as it exists is not the same as the world they were told exists and it is very difficult to understand how to survive because men were never taught to survive in a world that doesn’t preference them Is that the world where men make up the majority of homeless, imprisoned and workplace deaths or is it the other one? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/25 03:57 PM |
| 10 | Every woman should have high standards. Thats never a bad thing.I think all people should be free to date or not date whoever they want. However, on a societal level, I don't think encouraging either men or women to have 'high standards' is a good thing for society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/25 10:37 AM |
| 10 | Men will only be happy the day that rape becomes legal, and women will only be happy when medicine will be at its peakSpeaking solely from my own perspective. Of the (few) times I've been asked to be the dominant partner in the bedroom. I just couldn't do it. It was just such a turn off that I ended up going soft. Not only is that act horrifying to me (and most others) on a moral level, but it is sexually repulsive. I am turned on by a mutually affectionate, loving sexual act (preferably one where I'm in a submissive role). I would not and cannot do it with someone who doesn't want it. This scenario you speak o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/25 07:50 PM |
| – | What's something you wish the opposite sex understood more about your experiences?Leg hair/body hair is one of my favourite things about a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/25 10:34 AM |
| 4 | What's something you wish the opposite sex understood more about your experiences?PPD's no 1 female leg hair enjoyer here. Fully agreed! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Why do red pillers try to use the "force doctrine"?No, no. I am her servant and protector. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/25 05:00 PM |
| 2 | Why do red pillers try to use the "force doctrine"?and if she also is ok with initiating sex, planning dates, taking the lead romantically as much as he does... THEN the relationship can be equitably non-patriarchal. TBF my GF does all of this, and earns 2-3x as much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/25 04:52 PM |
| 7 | Men are more misandrist than women will ever bePurity culture is as much misandric as it is misogynistic. It is specifically the act of having sex with men that labels a person defiled. Racism? Often justified through the (imagined) threat of males from the out-group sexually defiling females from the in-group. Homophobia? Men are disgusting and inherently impure, so the act of men having sex with each other is inherently disgusting. That's why some women (including bi women) won't date bi men, and some lesbians won't date bi women. It's spe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/25 08:47 PM |
| – | Successful men. What are you looking for in a relationship?Financially self-sufficient and working in a lucrative field. Sexually dominant. I don't care about whether she's naturally good looking in terms of face/body, but preferably someone who is stylish and makes an effort with clothing and makeup, and has a distinctive and creative personal style. Not religious or traditional. Preferably someone who has unique skills that I don't have. Not racist, sexist (either misogynistic or misandric), homophobic or transphobic. I don't need (or want) someone wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/25 09:53 AM |
| 2 | Why do men want a trad wife.I'm (if I do say so myself) a very good cook, competent at cleaning and most others household tasks, and if I had children would want to be a father and be there to care for them as much as possible instead of just "providing" for them. I have zero need or desire for a 'tradwife'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/25 08:20 AM |
| 5 | Many women mostly want children so they have a way of justifying being provided for by a man.Is a stay at home dad who feeds the child, takes them to school, bathes them, puts them to bed etc not providing for them in a sense? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/25 01:53 AM |
| 27 | Pick Me Girls are not respected by men. Women are not jealous of them.A friend of mine got called a PickMe/NotLikeOtherGirl by randoms on tiktok for saying she wanted to dress up for 'casual' girls day out. It's just a meaningless term much like NiceGuy-ism to be thrown around to give ignorant cunts a moral high ground to bully people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/25 01:45 AM |
| 19 | Do some people create a negative self-image in their minds based on other people's view of them?It's literally human nature to want to be liked by others. Rejection (romantic or otherwise) is going to sting for most of us. And there's no way repeated rejection doesn't take a toll on mental health. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/25 05:06 PM |
| 3 | If the advices and path insisted on by the current neoliberal feminist-leaning postmodernist cultural institution wasn't leading "average" men to misery and isolation, they wouldn't bother seeking out any other philosophies or "pills"ADHD, childhood trauma or just poor socialisation can be just as difficult for men in dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/25 04:39 PM |
| 1 | If the advices and path insisted on by the current neoliberal feminist-leaning postmodernist cultural institution wasn't leading "average" men to misery and isolation, they wouldn't bother seeking out any other philosophies or "pills"Not many men want 'obedience and service' from women, certainly not the majority of those perpetually single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/25 04:34 PM |
| 3 | It's really not that challenging to get a girlfriendI think it's going to be rare to find it in this generation of women under 30. This sort of mentality is being aggressively (and in my view deliberately) pushed through social media, as is traditional masculinity being pushed to men (both in traditional form by right wingers and the also under guise of 'healthy/positive masculinity by feminists and leftists). Even if all social media collapsed today, it will take a generation or more for women and men to decondition from this mentality. My GF is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/25 05:06 AM |
| 11 | It's really not that challenging to get a girlfriendTo be honest I think feminism has aIways been conservative-leaning when it comes to the role of men in society. But think my MIL's generation of feminists were raised in an egalitarian mentality that women and men genuinely were equal and could do most of the same things and that they would work together to build their lives. She and My GF'S dad (now sadly RIP) were the higher earner at different points in their relationship and they shared the household/childcare duties as much as they could. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/25 04:52 AM |
| 19 | It's really not that challenging to get a girlfriendI had a conversation with my girlfriend's mum (who is an OG girl boss feminist). At her workplace there are a lot of younger women who are graduates/apprentices (aged 18-23) and she finds it genuinely unsettling how common and normalised it is for them to demand guys they date drive and not live with their parents, even though they themselves don't drive and still live with their parents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/25 04:02 AM |
| 5 | Why right wing guys could never represent the crisis of loneliness among men and other gendered issue pertaining to the pillsI keep getting feminist influencers on my social media feed posting clips of right wing/manosphere men saying or doing misogynistic bullshit, then saying "I bet he'll be whining about the male loneliness epidemic in 5 minutes." How is it rocket science to work out that very traditionally masculine right wing shithouses who are bigoted bullies and lonely, insecure, neurotic, often traumatised men are two very different groups of people? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/25 05:52 PM |
| – | Where does this idea that looks don't matter really come from?It's true that most men probably prefer women to shave but many men, including myself, prefer them to be more natural. I agree. I prefer a more natural look too. My point is, why can't this be true for women too? Yes, most will probably prefer a taller guy, but plenty either do not care or even like shorter guys. I doubt most men would reject a woman for this alone I think most men, even ones who think hairy women are 'disgusting' or 'unhygienic' or have 'man legs' etc, if they were drunk, horny… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/25 10:55 AM |
| – | Where does this idea that looks don't matter really come from?Even the hairy example just proves part of my point - 'repulsive' if you are 'hairy' - most men wouldn't act that way towards a woman. Only women act in such an extreme manner Why do you think the majority of women in the Western World remove the hair on their legs, underarms and pubic area? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/25 09:34 AM |
| – | Where does this idea that looks don't matter really come from?No, she is right. As a very hairy man, the world is very diverse as to whether this is something women like. In my part of the UK, where both the men and the women tend to be very superficial, the women prefer the men 'well-groomed' and so a lot of them find hairy men repulsive. Some other women like hairy men. Similarly, I have a high pitched voice. A lot of women are turned off by this and prefer a deeper more masculine sound. Some don't have a problem with it and others actively like it. It w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/25 08:37 AM |
| 4 | Q4M: When dating, do you only spend money if there's something in it for you?I can not and would not date a woman who wasn't willing to split at least some of the time. However, I've also gotten my GF things which have a great deal of sentimental value to her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/25 06:33 PM |
| 3 | Q4M: why do you no longer court women properly?At least in my experience, all the women I've met who have these desires (even those who adopted progressive/left leaning ideology) were ones who were heavily exposed to this kind of 'masculinity' during early childhood and puberty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/25 10:08 AM |
| 9 | Q4M: why do you no longer court women properly?There are no significant psychological differences rooted in gendered biology, but we'd like more dominant and traditionally masculine men in the sexual/romantic area because our sexuality needs that. Their sexuality does not need that, in the same way that male sexuality does not need virginal purity or sexual submissiveness or smooth shaved legs. But while society has (rightfully) said that these socialisation-created fetishises are rooted in misogyny and gendered expectations of women, there … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/25 09:57 AM |
| 37 | What is your goal in dating?To be loved and to love in return. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/25 06:43 AM |
| – | Men’s Dating Struggles Dont Get Taken As Seriously Because Many People Are Simply Uncomfortable With Criticism of WomenGender roles are a bad thing for everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 09:28 AM |
| 1 | How would dates and marriages work If the average woman was much wealthier than the average man?Curse you with that evil sense you're talking! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 04:44 AM |
| – | Does the child deep inside you still find women enchanting?I've always thought women were just people. Always happy to play with both boys and girls as a child and treat them as equal friends. So even when puberty hit and attraction started, I was still thinking about the person behind it all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 07:25 PM |
| 5 | Men’s Dating Struggles Dont Get Taken As Seriously Because Many People Are Simply Uncomfortable With Criticism of WomenWell you replied with 'trust me bro' implying you disagreed? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 06:57 PM |
| 7 | Men’s Dating Struggles Dont Get Taken As Seriously Because Many People Are Simply Uncomfortable With Criticism of WomenThe point around there being no biological reason for men to be repulsed at female body hair. You have evidence to the contrary? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 06:50 PM |
| 7 | Men’s Dating Struggles Dont Get Taken As Seriously Because Many People Are Simply Uncomfortable With Criticism of WomenNone of my attractions really changed as such, but I'm willing to compromise on things and leave fantasies as fantasies, and acknowledge that at least some of my preferences are rooted in an ideal of what a woman 'should be'. Here's what I wrote the last time this topic came up. I don't necessarily disagree, and certainly don't think anyone should have to date someone they're not attracted to. But I think this is a bit of a cop out answer. There's nothing wrong with examining or challenging our … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 06:41 PM |
| 5 | Men’s Dating Struggles Dont Get Taken As Seriously Because Many People Are Simply Uncomfortable With Criticism of WomenIf it's such bullshit why don't you answer the question then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 06:36 PM |
| 9 | The blue pill gives you a better shot at happiness, for less cost, than the red pill.A lot of my perpetually single male friends often get told things like 'it'll happen when you least expect it.'' Given that it hasn't happened their whole lives (they're all late 20s), I don't know how they could 'not expect it' more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 04:58 PM |
| 15 | The blue pill gives you a better shot at happiness, for less cost, than the red pill.Bluepill fails to take into account that a large amount of women, even ideologically progressive/left wing ones, do in fact expect the men in their lives to take the traditional role in a relationship. And now bluepill has painted itself into a corner, because it has (rightfully) tried to push men away from 'toxic masculinity', while not accounting for the fact that a lot of women still want toxic masculinity. And because we cannot question women's preferences, it's never going to be a discussio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 04:44 PM |
| 22 | Men’s Dating Struggles Dont Get Taken As Seriously Because Many People Are Simply Uncomfortable With Criticism of WomenThere's no biological evolutionary reason for men to be disgusted at women having hair on their legs and underarms, and yet most men in the Western World don't like it because society says it is bad and 'unfeminine'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 04:31 PM |
| 23 | Men’s Dating Struggles Dont Get Taken As Seriously Because Many People Are Simply Uncomfortable With Criticism of WomenBecause the solutions to the problems discussed on here are remarkably simple, and often come back to the same root causes in the end. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 03:49 PM |
| 13 | The blue pill gives you a better shot at happiness, for less cost, than the red pill.Bluepill says that if you exercise, dress well, make an effort with your appearance and are a nice person (the latter being bare minimum as they will tell you), then 'the right person will come along', and if they don't then you obviously aren't as nice as you claim to be, and maybe you should try wearing nice clothes in the shower while exercising and getting a haircut, and if that doesn't work it is your fault. The redpill tells you all of the above but replaces the 'nice person' bit with beco… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 03:48 PM |
| 11 | Men are delusional about how many bad men are out thereI think it's possible to say that the responsibility for the evil that is committed lies solely with the abuser, but also that this could've been avoided. A (male) friend of mine was in an abusive relationship with a woman. It ended a few years ago but he was never in a good place afterwards and ultimately chose to depart this year. It was utterly horrible, and she'll never face any consequences for how she treated him. But at the same time, a few of us knew her beforehand, and repeatedly warned… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 03:12 PM |
| 5 | Is it true that men want monogamy and family more than women, or is that a false narrative here?I actually do believe men have some level of 'nurturing' instinct. Maybe not quite to the same extent as women, but certainly more than any 'masculine instinct to provide'. It just isn't really cultivated in them. Depression in fathers who spend a lot of time away from their kids is very common. There's a reason a bunch of hardened manly construction workers turn into cooing saps whenever a big cute cuddly dog goes past the site. It's probably the only socially acceptable way for them to show th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 03:04 PM |
| 20 | Men are delusional about how many bad men are out thereI don't think it's wrong to point out that the overlap between people (both men and women) who have have the traits that (some) women and (some) men desire (confidence, dominance, low inhibition, low fear, some level of sexual aggression) and violent, aggressive unempathetic bullies is quite high. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 02:57 PM |
| 38 | Men’s Dating Struggles Dont Get Taken As Seriously Because Many People Are Simply Uncomfortable With Criticism of WomenSaid it before and I'll say it again: The world would be a better place if both women and men did some soul searching and investigated what their preferences are and what gender role beliefs may've fed into them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 02:53 PM |
| 4 | why do men complain about women liking bad guy, when they literally have a fetish for crazy women?I am solely attracted to stern, serious, powerful, dominant, sexually aggressive women. To be honest the overlap between people (both men and women) who have have those traits and unpleasant, unempathetic bullies is quite high. To be honest a lot of the girls I liked in my young teens were 'mean girls' (or whatever the UK equivalent of that is) and yes, part of the appeal was that they'd show their nice side to me while being bitchy to the rest of the world. But I grew out of that fairly quickly… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/25 12:28 PM |
| 1 | Women Don't "Mature" faster than menPredominantly white english. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/25 05:17 AM |
| – | Women expanded their gender role to include what women traditionally do and what men traditionally do. A lot of men are rejected by society because they dont want to do anythingMy life ambition is to be a stay at home dad for a few years and remain the primary caring parent even after that, doubly so if I have a son. This is not socially acceptable for men. Men who are interested in careers like childcare or years education are frequently called p###os etc. There are lots of programmes to encourage girls to get into IT or engineering, but I've not seen a single one to encourage men to get into nursing or primary school teaching. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/25 01:49 PM |
| 1 | Women Don't "Mature" faster than menYes, I won't disagree with that one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/25 12:51 PM |
| 2 | Women Don't "Mature" faster than menLike kids who are probably going to wind up in jail at some point in their lives if they don't get straightened out. If physical altercations were breaking out regularly to the point where cops were being called and she wanted to learn self-defense your GF probably went to that kind of school. Hmmm, it was a private school, most of her classmates were from very comfortable backgrounds (parents were doctors, lawyers, other types of professionals or business owners). They were just snotty, privile… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/25 11:40 AM |
| – | We should start telling people when they are younger you aren't guaranteed a relationshipThe problem is that it's not just autism, though that can be a problem with dating. It could be ADHD, which often comes with rejection sensitive dysphoria (meaning he'll perceive even the tiniest shift in body language or voice tone as proof she's not interested.) Or it could be childhood trauma. Social anxiety and dangerously low self esteem as a result of an abusive parent or severe bullying can make the male role.of initiating extremely difficult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/25 10:12 AM |
| 8 | Women Don't "Mature" faster than menYou get mixed answers on which group is easier to teach overall, but most seemed to agree that girls are more obedient and respectful of authority. You have to have a very tough skin and stern demeanor to teach all boys. They will challenge you at every turn and push boundaries in ways that girls do not. Turnover can be a lot higher. I think that difference is in part why girls are seen as more mature. The ability to cooperate and pick your battles wisely are indeed signs of maturity while unres… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/25 09:42 AM |
| 1 | Women Don't "Mature" faster than menThere is a vastly wide net for what women can be in Western Society. Traditional femininity (at least in presentation) is popular but nowhere near required. Men are only valued for being traditionall masculine (in both presentation and behaviour). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/25 06:49 AM |
| -1 | Women Don't "Mature" faster than menI'd argue that men 'mature' much faster and much more, but largely because they are made to 'man up' (grow up) and learn independence and emotional control much earlier on in life. However, this kind of alexithymia usually causes problems for them later in life so it isn't necessarily a good thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/25 06:42 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: What qualities do you look for in men that you don't consider "bare minimum"?My favourite is thick dark leg hair on a pale woman but blonde is nice too. It's one of those things that is so versatile for different women. The light fuzz on a blonde, that faint-but-noticeable dark dusting on a black woman, the thicker, darker leg hair on a Mediterranean/Arabic/South Asian woman. It's lovely in so many different ways. And the texture of it is heaven to the touch. Strong yet soft, harsh yet sensual. I genuinely will never understand why other men hate female leg hair so much.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/25 05:33 AM |
| 3 | if men dislike high maintenance women then how come they are still pursuing them?Eh, I've known a lot of women who do this style, and so it's become easy to tell what they look like with and without it, and spot the style elsewhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/25 06:25 PM |
| 1 | if men dislike high maintenance women then how come they are still pursuing them?It really isn't that difficult to tell a 'no makeup makeup' from a genuine bare face. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/25 06:01 PM |
| 5 | if men dislike high maintenance women then how come they are still pursuing them?My GF is ultra high maintenance and pays for it all herself because she actually likes that stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/25 05:59 PM |
| 1 | Don’t be upset you didn’t get a hook up when you pretended you wanted a relationship.This was a long time ago. I don't talk to those people any more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/25 03:28 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What qualities do you look for in men that you don't consider "bare minimum"?To be homest most men are firmly anti body hair for women. I am one of the few who thinks hairy women are hot AF. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/25 03:20 PM |
| 0 | Don’t be upset you didn’t get a hook up when you pretended you wanted a relationship.What can I say? I was young and stupid. What's interesting is that (if I do say so myself) they actually said I was better looking than the guys they had real feelings for, and said I was far better in the bedroom than those guys (it helps that I am an attentive and submissive lover). I just didn't offer the excitement and masculine toughness those emotionally unavailable hot/cold guys did. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/25 01:38 PM |
| 0 | Don’t be upset you didn’t get a hook up when you pretended you wanted a relationship.Yes. I made this very clear that I'd like to take them out and wanted to cook for them (this happened with more than one). Whenever that scenario came up the response was "Lets just stay friends", at least until she was lonely and horny and then the cycle would begin again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/25 01:31 PM |
| 1 | Don’t be upset you didn’t get a hook up when you pretended you wanted a relationship.What if all the man in question is getting is hookups but he actually wants a relationship? Like, she'll invite him over when she's lonely and/or horny but won't even hold hands with him any other time? (This has actually happened to me BTW) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/25 01:23 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: What qualities do you look for in men that you don't consider "bare minimum"?Very little body hair. As a hairy man I am deeply offended. (Lol jk, my GF doesn't mind it. Different strokes for different folks I suppose). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/25 01:16 PM |
| 1 | What are the advantages and the drawbacks of marriages/relationships when the woman outearn the man?My GF was born in the early 90s and her parents were/are as Egalitarian as they come. They both worked, shared household tasks, and were each the higher earner/primary childcarer for my GF and her sister at different points when they were growing up. Her mum is an old school feminist and even she finds it unsettling the amount of young women who feel comfortable demanding a traditional man. She thinks things are actually getting worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/25 01:08 PM |
| -2 | Not wanting to date someone is not oppressionI for one welcome our hairy armpitted (and everything else) overlords. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/25 08:46 PM |
| 2 | Not undrestanding the importance of mutual desire in relationships is an autism issuePeople grow to learn social ques, they learn what’s appropriate Yes, and this can be more difficult than for others. Many will simply never catch up and will only be able to operate at a "functional" level. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try to support them and accommodate them if we can, but it also doesn't mean they shouldn't be held accountable for any immoral acts. and learn empathy The average autistic person certainly has you beaten in that regard based on what I've seen today. that might … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/25 12:39 PM |
| 0 | Not undrestanding the importance of mutual desire in relationships is an autism issueYea, again how are they vulnerable exactly? The rest of us call that growing up Yes indeed. People who misunderstand social cues or have sensory overloads issues can just grow out of it. Maybe people in wheelchairs can just get up and walk. I'm sure you'd feel very comfortable getting in a car driven by a person who needed glasses who was just trying a bit harder to see without them. The ableism and lack of empathy here is truly monstrous. Feminism is a movement of equal rights fir women, how is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/25 12:05 PM |
| -3 | Not undrestanding the importance of mutual desire in relationships is an autism issueHow are they vulnerable exactly? You're asking why people who often misunderstand social cues, struggle with inference and can be easily overwhelmed in social situations or with sensory overloads might be considered vulnerable? Again main character syndrome where they are always a victim because everyone’s out to get them. Like feminism the ideology then? What you are doing is classic DARVO, which is what a lot of autistic snd abusive men do when faced with their own actions. Aaaaaand we're equa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/25 11:49 AM |
| 0 | Not undrestanding the importance of mutual desire in relationships is an autism issueIt's strawmanning a group of vulnerable based on unfounded stereotypes ("main character syndrome" really?) in order to demonise them and portray them as as evil dangerous and "other". You don't need to use the word "subhuman" but the implication is very clear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/25 11:32 AM |
| 1 | Not undrestanding the importance of mutual desire in relationships is an autism issueAutistic people have as much empathy as the general population, if not more. Albeit they often struggle to display it in a way that is socially acceptable. They also often have a strong sense of justice and fairness. You're strawmanning a vulnerable group who aren't any more dangerous than the general population in order to demonise them. Just be kind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/25 11:16 AM |
| 13 | Not undrestanding the importance of mutual desire in relationships is an autism issue(Sigh) I know it's fun to treat autistic men as subhuman in here, but most are in fact perfectly capable of understanding mutual interest, and would in fact find it "illogical" to try and be in a relationship with somebody who didn't want one with them. Please, just see my flair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/25 10:59 AM |
| 1 | Do most guys never experience the "talk" with their parents about relationships?My parents are very religious muslims so it was very much not something talked about in our household. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 07:57 PM |
| 0 | What do men mean when they say women's standards are too highI for one find women more attractive when they don't shave or remove their body hair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 12:59 PM |
| 5 | What do men mean when they say women's standards are too highWomen shouldn't have to do this either | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 12:35 PM |
| 5 | What do men mean when they say women's standards are too highNothing too serious. A couple of women (who I am in fact still friends with now) have been upfront that my voice was just the total opposite of the deep masculine sound that they find attractive in men, and it was just too much of a turnoff to make dating a possibility. However, plenty of women just don't care, and some I've dated quite liked my more boyish voice and found it pleasant and soothing to listen to. They used to ask me to 'talk about anything' just to soothe them after a tough day at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 12:33 PM |
| 12 | What do men mean when they say women's standards are too highNobody's standards are too high. People should date who they are attracted to. I think some men are (to an extent understandably) upset that in many cases, women's standards exclude them based on things they can't change (most notably height or baldness, but also things like race and bisexuality) or that are relatively difficult to change (income in todays socioeconomic situation, or trying to force a sensitive male to adopt traditionally masculine behaviours.). However, this is not anybody faul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 11:31 AM |
| 6 | Male body shaming makes way for male abuse victims to be ignored. (TW: SH/SA)Thank you. I'm not American so don't follow this channelor know much about these people but they do make very sensible points. I'd be interested to hear their opinions on Greta Thunberg's "small dick energy" comments too. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/25 08:40 AM |
| 3 | Male body shaming makes way for male abuse victims to be ignored. (TW: SH/SA)Not to be a pain but do you have a video of those people you mentioned speaking out against this? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/25 08:10 AM |
| 10 | Toxic masculinity and patriarchy being only enforced by men is a myth. It is ingrained in our psyche, we need to collectively oppose it.It's an interesting one. When men shame other men for crying or otherwise showing emotion, mock a man for being physically weaker, sneer at a man who makes less than his partner, insult men who wear feminine clothing or partake in typically feminine activities, tell a male colleague who is unwell to 'man up' and come into work etc, we can all agree that this is 'toxic masculinity', in the sense that it is attempting to enforce a narrow-minded version of masculinity onto other men, and police/ost… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/25 07:05 AM |
| 26 | Male body shaming makes way for male abuse victims to be ignored. (TW: SH/SA)And in her (non) apology her explanation was something like a 'good' man is spiritually tall and a bad man is spiritually short. So... we're still saying that short is something evil and disgusting and tall is something good which should be aspired towards. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/25 05:31 AM |
| 1 | “Personally” is not a synonym for “nice meek pushover”See my flair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/25 09:22 PM |
| 4 | Being evil is not a factor when it comes to not being able to find a girlfriendBut that’s not the same as being hot and rich. I mean, some of these guys are tall, fit, deep voice, dress/style themselves well. They are objectively attractive by any metric. The women they choose aren’t faring any better. Nah most of the women are at least average looking. Maybe not supermodels but nowhere near 'ugly'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/25 12:43 PM |
| 7 | Being evil is not a factor when it comes to not being able to find a girlfriendNah it goes deeper than that. Most of the forever alone type guys I know are objectively decent looking and have good jobs and yet haven't been on a date in years. Most of the assholes I know, even ones who are short, fat, bald, teeth missing and low income, have trouble in the romance department whatsoever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/25 09:22 AM |
| 6 | Blue Pillers are feminists need to offer men a decent alternativeEducational system was created by men for men Plenty of female leaders in government and in the education sector over the last hundred years and beyond. why should feminism solve them and not men?* Why should men solve women's problems if they're not their problems? For the answer to both questions, see my flair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/25 11:13 AM |
| 6 | Blue Pillers are feminists need to offer men a decent alternativeSo feminism fights for women rights until they will be equal to men's. And as soon as there is a movement for women to get something men like "but what about men?!". I'm angry at this response. So so angry. It's like there is a guy who sits with table full of food, and starving woman. She asks for food and men like if you're going to ask for food ask for me too. Yeah, no. If that table includes worse life expectancy, worse educational outcomes, much higher levels of homelessness, imprisonment, s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/25 09:56 AM |
| 3 | Bisexuality should be considered a privilege rather than a handicapI understand. I was raised strict muslim and even though it's a religion and culture I want nothing to do with, I still have an instinctive revulsion towards eating pork. I can do it but as the conditioning from my parents went so deep from an early age its something I have to will myself to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/25 06:42 AM |
| 3 | Bisexuality should be considered a privilege rather than a handicapGenuine question: Were you raised somewhere where gay men were treated as unmanly or inherently effeminate? Or at least where being gay/male-male relationships were seen as a bad thing? I've noticed that this kind of conditioning can break deep into our subconscious, even when we've adopted a progressive worldview. Or perhaps in a place where purity culture/slut-shaming was common? Some men won't date women who have 'slept around' with other men, some straight women and bi women won't date bi me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/25 06:16 AM |
| 1 | You have the chance to make one thing go internationally viral for the opposite sex. What do you choose?As a hairy man I am deeply hurt | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 03:38 PM |
| 5 | You have the chance to make one thing go internationally viral for the opposite sex. What do you choose?Make the female shaving trend die off for good and female sexual maturity celebrated. Make Women Hairy Again! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 02:39 PM |
| 0 | Feminists will do all sorts of mental gymnastics to justify why men should adhere to gender roles.But do I want my man to dress like a man? Yes. Do I want him to be taller than me? Yes. Do I want him to be fit? Yes. This is not contradictory. Why is it not contradictory? Because you can support men subverting gender roles without having to be attracted to them to prove it. I demonstrate a lot of gender roles subversion, but there are ways that I prefer my man to keep to gender roles. That doesn’t disprove any of my previous statements or make me someone who picks and chooses gender roles. I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 11:58 AM |
| 14 | Why does nobody seem to talk about the double standards of male vs female clothing?Both genders should be allowed to wear what they want, so long as it isn't actively intended to intimidate people. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/11/25 06:41 AM |
| 8 | What options do high income women have?I believe every word, and it may be hollow for me to say but I don't believe all are like this. My girlfriend certainly isn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/25 01:33 PM |
| 2 | What's your ideal world ?Fair enough. At least in my experience when it comes to most aspects of "femininity" like long hair, dresses, makeup, nail art etc, they are all very popular but women who choose to opt out are not uncommon and generally not judged. Women who don't shave on the other hand are seen as downright abnormal where I'm from. Even very feminist women or ones from "alternative" subcultures still shave. I have some friends who are 'butch lesbians', who reject anything associated with traditional femininit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 06:09 PM |
| 5 | 20 year old women don't want middle aged or geriatric men the way these men want themI don't understand half of this. I am physically attracted to women, yes, but not all women. There are things I find attractive such as stylish/classy outfits. I have always liked women who wear sharp, elegant clothing. It is a major physical turn on for me. And I'm attracted to traits like intelligence, competence, ambition, and a certain level of sexual confidence. Seeing women demonstrate these traits is also a physical turn on for me. I have literally never thought about "symmetry". It's jus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 03:31 PM |
| 6 | 20 year old women don't want middle aged or geriatric men the way these men want themLooks alone do not form attraction. The perfect 10/10 influencer body doesn't do anything at all for me. I literally couldn't care less. It doesn't trigger any level of arousal or desire. But if we are talking about looks only. I am not attracted to "clear" or "glowing" skin. I find it bland and desexualised. I prefer women who don't shave for a more sexually aggressive appearance. I am attracted to women with a classy and elegant dress sense. Older women beat younger women on this hands down. A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 02:54 PM |
| 4 | 20 year old women don't want middle aged or geriatric men the way these men want themWhat 55 year old woman looks better than a 21 year old? Many 21 year old women (and men) still retain a lot of their "teenage" appearance. This alone kills any potential attraction. Anyone who looks even slightly like a teenage girl is automatically a child in my mind and wouldn't even cross the threshold of someone I could find desirable. The thought of doing anything sexual or romantic with such a person is just instinctively disgusting. A 55 year old woman vs a 22 year old woman “who looks li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 02:37 PM |
| 2 | 20 year old women don't want middle aged or geriatric men the way these men want themThe 55 year old who looks like a woman is obviously more attractive than a 21 year old who looks like a girl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 01:03 PM |
| 2 | 20 year old women don't want middle aged or geriatric men the way these men want themThey are very rarely in the same life situation as me, often do not have much financial independence or career prospects (meaning they would become dependents if a relationship happened) and often have not grown out of teenage mentality and behaviour. What's there to actually like? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 01:02 PM |
| 16 | If you lack options for ltr as a male you aren't avgSure, but that begs the question of what an "average man" is or should be. I have some friends who are of average height and even some of them taller than average, full head of hair, not unhealthily overweight or unhealthily thin, don't dress any worse or make less effort with their appearance than your average person in a relationship, don't have insane standards and expect to date supermodels, and are genuinely nice people with lots of male and female friends. And yet dating and relationships … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 11:51 AM |
| 8 | 20 year old women don't want middle aged or geriatric men the way these men want themI'm younger than a 30 year old man and would not have any interest in or attraction to a 20 year old woman. The 55 year old men who have these fantasies clearly have deviant sexual desires. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 11:40 AM |
| 6 | What's your ideal world ?As an obscenely hairy man I am personally offended | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 10:59 AM |
| 7 | What's your ideal world ?On a societal level, I want to live in a world where everyone can just be whoever they want without having to follow a script of what is "masculine" or "feminine". On a personal level, a world where women who don't shave are fully normalised and leg hair is seen as the pinnacle of aggressive female sexuality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 08:33 AM |
| 12 | Do you genuinely believe that a "traditional" female role is important and honorable?People can and should live their lives how they wish, but I personally would not want to be with someone who was "traditional" in any sense. I am attracted to powerful dominant women and would not be able to sustain a sexual attraction to anyone who needed to be "provided for". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 06:13 AM |
| – | Help - in relationship with 45 year old successful manwants to be able to sleep with other women while I stay monogamous This is an absolute red line to terminate any relationship, and should be for anyone who wants a healthy relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/25 06:30 AM |
| – | The only one who is following patriarchy are women not men and it has devastating effects on datingNo accounting for taste... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/25 09:00 PM |
| – | The only one who is following patriarchy are women not men and it has devastating effects on datingmen aren't attracted to hairy pits Speak for yourself thank you! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/25 08:45 PM |
| 1 | How do men view fwb/casual sex relationships?In the days I had them I still felt alone and rejected (for a real relationship) and was still entertaining 'incel' like thoughts. Not great for long term happiness in my opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/25 04:36 PM |
| 29 | Where do autistic and adhd men fit in?Eh, in my experience neurodivergent folks tend to either lean heavily into gender role beliefs because they fuel the kind of rigidity and routine they often need to function (my almost-certainly-autistic mother is an example of this) or become heavily gender nonconforming because they soon realise "girls/boys should do/be X" doesn't have any logical basis to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/25 02:35 PM |
| 2 | Why does love have to be one-sided?My GF was/is like this too. It's wonderful! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/10/25 05:36 AM |
| 2 | How a man interacts appears to be wayyyy more important to female arousal than how a woman interacts is to male arousal.ingenue an innocent or unsophisticated young woman, especially in a play or film. Lets just say 'innocence' is very much not something I'm into. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/25 05:00 AM |
| -2 | How a man interacts appears to be wayyyy more important to female arousal than how a woman interacts is to male arousal.Sounds like the sort of men who need a mother not a wife. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/25 04:47 AM |
| 39 | NO, autistic women do not mask better than autistic menYou've nailed the head on the hit. Autistic boys are identified and marked as unmasculine and 'other' from an early age (whether diagnosed or not). Autistic girls - even if they may not make it to the top of the food chain - can be "feminine" enough that they can blend into a friendship group. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/25 08:48 PM |
| 2 | How a man interacts appears to be wayyyy more important to female arousal than how a woman interacts is to male arousal.Do the majority of men actually like a “doe-eyed ingenue church mouse vixen.” Besides those who like that sort of thing as a fetish thing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/25 08:29 PM |
| 65 | NO, autistic women do not mask better than autistic menI am not autistic, just ADHD and very poorly socialised, and so in early school days was mostly friends with the 'weird' kids, in hindsight some of whom were very clearly autistic. I also strongly believe my mother is autistic. I think the difference in masking is that for the "average" high functioning autistic person (insofar as such a person exists) the script of what girls and women 'should be' is just more achievable than the script for boys and men. Boys and men are supposed to be tough an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/25 05:33 PM |
| – | The horde of women lusting over the full-frontal scene in House of Guinness proves that size does matter.Among the friends I have who feel comfortable talking about this my experience has been the opposite. A couple are horrified at the thought of having a big one in them, others who had the experience found it unpleasant enough to make it a "never again". ETA: One guy I worked with who was obscenely blessed in that regard had multiple women take one look and say "you ain't puttin that in me" and insisted on him giving her oral instead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/25 05:09 PM |
| – | The horde of women lusting over the full-frontal scene in House of Guinness proves that size does matter.There are videos of unnaturally large breasts, unnaturally large buttocks, feet, urine, faeces, hijabs, glasses, prosthetic limbs etc, used in an erotic manner, which have amassed hundreds of thousands if not millions of views. Does that mean the majority are into these things or that the few with those extreme desires tend to gravitate towards that content? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/25 05:03 PM |
| – | Why do women expect traditionalism in relationships?US society, stemming from the fact most people don’t make enough to support a family on one income, but men still tend to see housework and childcare as beneath them. Men have not exactly challenged their gender roles in the same way women have over the past 100yrs, most are still trying to operate on traditional gender roles, but in an economy that doesn’t allow it. I'm not American I'm in the UK, but among all my friends who are in relationships and both work, all the guys do their fair share … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/25 08:34 PM |
| – | Women are not repulsed by men opening up about their feelings, they're repulsed by incompetence"It's OK to be sad so long as you man up about it" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/25 06:47 AM |
| 5 | Do you think women's standard for a partner is bad?Damn you with that nasty sense you're talking! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/25 08:33 PM |
| 5 | Do you think women's standard for a partner is bad?I've said this before and I'll say it again. I have had women who were far more "conventionally" attractive than me try to force themselves on me and rip my trousers open in a public place, demanding I come home and have sex with them. I've also been interested in women who were not remotely conventionally attractive who gave me a straight up "Ew, no!" Women's standards are pretty much impossible to predict or work around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/25 08:28 PM |
| 2 | Lets assume there is an IslandDo the women on this Island have hairy legs due to no razors being available? If so how might I travel there at the earliest convenience? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 02:52 PM |
| 2 | DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵I remember being like 12-13 and thinking girls with braces were prettiest most beautiful thing ever. They were like little pretty jewels on the teeth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 06:41 AM |
| – | Average man could put more effort in his appearance and it wouldn't change a thingWomen literally hit on the guys they like with sexual pick up lines This just is not true for the vast majority of women unless they either have a very high level of sexual confidence or are drunk/coked up. Trust me, I grew up in a place where a lot of girls and women WERE like this (a run-down area where nobody was ever taught purity culture), and it was a shock to discover that in the big wide world most were not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/25 09:08 AM |
| 1 | Outdated view of masculinity clashing with modern culture is why "pill" culture existsI doubt men have played as large of a role in early child care as you seem to think, at least in most cultures, Ehhh, there's quite a lot of documented evidence of males from modern tribal societies playing a heavy role in childcare and caring for infants. The role of women hunting seems to be controversial. They could trap or shoot small game, of course, but I am guessing that most did not have the strength or speed to hunt larger game. Large game would usually be brought down by a group, and w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 09:30 AM |
| 2 | Outdated view of masculinity clashing with modern culture is why "pill" culture existsLets not forget however that when a hunt was necessary, the females would take part too. Maybe not quite to the same extent as males (more strength would be needed to take down larger livestock) but there's more than enough evidence of them taking part in big hunts and bringing down small game single-handedly. And prehistoric/tribal males do also assist with childcare. It isn't a strictly female vocation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/25 06:45 PM |
| 3 | Outdated view of masculinity clashing with modern culture is why "pill" culture existsYou are right that prehistoric (and modern primitive) women would forage (and to lesser extent hunted) with their baby strapped to them. But thats not the whole picture. Communal raising was/is a heavy element of these kinds of societies. Infants would be cared for by mother, older sister, aunt, possibly grandmother, with assistance from father, older brother, uncle, grandfather etc. "Man the provider" and woman the provided-for is largely an anthropological fiction, arguably an attempt to impos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/25 01:51 PM |
| 1 | Outdated view of masculinity clashing with modern culture is why "pill" culture existsFor thousands of years, men were out hunting or going to war against other peoples instead. And what were women doing at that time? Foraging for their own shit (which made up the bulk of calories consumed by prehistoric societies), and if necessary hunting too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/25 07:31 PM |
| 3 | Q4M: Is it common for men to fantasize about being with a billionaire?Maybe not that specifically, but there are whole porn categories about a male being seduced and/or teased and/or dominated by a female boss, teacher, police officer, CEO etc? So there's obviously something about an attractive female being in a position of power over the male that appeals to some men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/25 01:53 PM |
| – | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?Yup that's where pseudoscientific nonsense like AF/BB, hypergamy, 80/20 etc come from, because they can't explain why they can do everything they can to be a "high value man" and still be rejected by a particular woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 04:54 PM |
| 2 | Being lusted over by people who hate you is worse than not being sexually desiredI'm in the UK where the Powers That Be only just woken up to male-on-female sexual harassment in the last few years, and are still basically silent on the reverse. When I was at school both the boys and the girls did deeply sexually inappropriate things and got away with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/25 05:01 PM |
| 3 | Being lusted over by people who hate you is worse than not being sexually desiredWould you say the same to women who are on the receiving end of male behaviour that is designed to intimidate and humiliate them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/25 04:10 PM |
| 3 | Being lusted over by people who hate you is worse than not being sexually desiredI shouldn't dignify this drivel with a response, but suffice to say that things designed to make people feel uncomfortable tend to achieve that purpose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/25 01:36 PM |
| 3 | Being lusted over by people who hate you is worse than not being sexually desiredIs this the equivalent of "Why didn't you fight back?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/25 01:22 PM |
| 6 | Men are the prize.Sure, just like men exist who demand a "low body count" or even a virgin, and expect women to have meticulously shaved legs at all times. To be clear I am not one of those men, but if women can always not date those men if they don't want those obligations, just like men can just not date women who demand a provider man who always pays. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/25 07:32 AM |
| 10 | Men are the prize.Then draw a line. I don't go on dates with people who expect me to pay for them every time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/25 07:27 AM |
| 34 | Men are the prize.All other things equalised, men will always want women more than women want men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/25 07:19 AM |
| 0 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADNever been a problem for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/25 06:41 AM |
| 10 | Being lusted over by people who hate you is worse than not being sexually desiredYes, they were bad people. Not that there were any consequences for it mind you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/25 06:08 AM |
| 13 | Being lusted over by people who hate you is worse than not being sexually desiredIt would be things like a girl coming up and sitting on a boy's lap, rubbing her chest against him, groping him, referring to him as a "her boyfriend" (in a way that makes clear it's an absurd idea) etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/25 04:29 AM |
| -1 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADSociety as a whole is misogynistic and misandric, so yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/25 04:23 AM |
| 34 | Being lusted over by people who hate you is worse than not being sexually desiredWhen I was at school it was quite commonplace for "popular" girls to engage in (low-level) sexual harassment of unpopular boys. It was done with impunity, a way of teasing an unpopular boy with what he could never have. I wasn't exactly bottom-tier at school but it happened to me a couple of times. That's probably the worst of both worlds in that sense, because you're being creeped on for the specific fact of not being attractive enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 07:53 PM |
| 4 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADNot that I'm in the business of these kind of analogies, but if "it" is fit for for my intended purpose (being in a relationship with a nice person with compatible values who I'm physically attracted to and have sexual compatibility with), then, well, who gives a fuck? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 07:17 PM |
| 3 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADIf it is fit for purpose then I don't see why not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 06:47 PM |
| 0 | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?Probably | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 06:31 PM |
| 0 | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?I haven't measured myself since school days (and then I was like 5'10) but I'm definitely shorter than people who are six foot | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 06:02 PM |
| 2 | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?Under 6 foot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 05:50 PM |
| 3 | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?It takes some level of sexual attraction (and a repulsive personality) to repeatedly try to force kiss someone and rip their trousers open in a public place and demand they come home and have sex just because you've drank alcohol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 05:22 PM |
| 6 | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?Being drunk just makes you more impulsive and less risk-averse. It cannot create sexual attraction by itself. If it could we'd all get drunk and start fucking lamp posts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 04:51 PM |
| 9 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADI'm a taken man, but if I were single I wouldn't date a virgin under any circumstances, for the simple reason that if she were around my age or older (and I don't date younger), and attractive enough for me to consider her, and yet is still a virgin, she likely has purity-adjacent views which are incompatible with mine. Also we may turn out to be entirely sexually incompatible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 04:42 PM |
| 17 | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?I've been borderline sexually assaulted in public by drunk/coked up women who were way above me in "conventional" attractiveness (to be clear this was not in any way a good thing), and also had very unattractive women take one look at me and go "Ew, no!". There really is no way of working around female selectiveness. It's a basically randomised process. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 04:25 PM |
| 3 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADPurity culture (and the resulting obsession with "N-Counts") is both misogynistic and misandric. Anyone perpetuating it is enabling both of these evils. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 04:16 PM |
| 12 | No, women aren’t attracted to bad men. You’re just hearing about the breakups.It's not most women (or men) but it is a lot of women and men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/25 04:49 PM |
| 7 | No, women aren’t attracted to bad men. You’re just hearing about the breakups.Thank you for educating me on that eye-opening discovery. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/25 04:37 PM |
| 15 | No, women aren’t attracted to bad men. You’re just hearing about the breakups.Plenty of women and men seek to recreate their harsh childhood dynamics, the emotional rollercoaster and push-pull of an "I can fix him/her" dynamic is far more appealing to such a person than someone who is straightforwardly caring and likeable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/25 04:35 PM |
| 11 | No, women aren’t attracted to bad men. You’re just hearing about the breakups.I've never seen women flocking over balding, short and ugly criminals or unattractive assholes When I was in prison many of my fellow inmates had multiple women writing them love letters and coming to visit them, yes including the short or bald ones. A couple even got new girlfriends while inside. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/25 04:30 PM |
| 54 | No, women aren’t attracted to bad men. You’re just hearing about the breakups.Nah plenty of women genuinely are attracted to bad men who are open about their unpleasantness. Yes they had the looks and the confidence and the charisma too, but the whole "toxic part reveals itself later" is mostly false. Plenty of women (includimg those with professional jobs and feminist worldviews) will choose to date the guy who is a known criminal, abuser, harasser, gang member, racist etc and justify it because "you don't see what I see in him". However the unspoken side is that men are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/25 04:24 PM |
| 11 | 35 yo single man is better off than a 35 yo single femaleI'm parodying what the OP has posted. What I said is closer to the truth than OPs statement but still a huge oversimplification and generalisation. I hope your concerns that this will cause men to "exit life" are just as pressing that OP's statement will do the same to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/25 08:59 AM |
| 12 | 35 yo single man is better off than a 35 yo single femaleIt's more likely than your scenario. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/25 04:01 AM |
| 14 | 35 yo single man is better off than a 35 yo single female35 single woman: At the height of her career. Paid off all her debt. Still good looking if she takes care of herself. Can probably afford anything, paid off her debt. Enough hot guys in their 20s interested in her to form a militia. 35 yo single male: Window to have kids almost run out. Needs to find a woman, get married and have kids ASAP or never will. women his own age don’t want him at all, let alone younger women. Only people that might want him are very financially screwed up, very physica… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/25 03:57 AM |
| 7 | A lot of men who women otherwise love as friends, but never see them “that way”It's easy as men to misunderstand what women say when they say "that way". Hell, I'm not convinced women understand it themselves. I've known women who've liked Guy A, let's say he's tall, muscular, good looking etc. Then for whatever reason they broke up or a relationship never happened. Then she meets Guy B who is taller, more muscular, richer, better looking than Guy A, and yet she says "I just don't see him that way", and when asked why, is unable to articulate in any understandable detail w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/25 04:31 PM |
| 1 | You're not an "average" guy if you struggle in datingYep that's me and my GF. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/25 12:07 PM |
| 1 | You're not an "average" guy if you struggle in datingI am in a relationship which is my first serious one, and before that had some casual experiences but also long swathes of time with nothing except repeated rejection. I am taller than probably 75-80% of men, shave every day and get a haircut every few weeks, dress respectably, and have had a regular intensive exercise regime for several years now and a body that proves it. The only "icks" I have is a high pitched (though still recognisably male) voice and obscene levels of body hair. I am not "… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/25 11:56 AM |
| 12 | How important is romantic love as part of human livelihood?Unless you are asexual and/or aromantic, it is of high importance. You may not die without it but perpetual singledom (even if some form of sex is involved) is very bad for mental health. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/25 02:46 PM |
| 4 | Escorts are the best option for undesirable menAlso, I'm not into domme women - I like hyper-feminine women. FYI, not mutually exclusive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/25 05:27 AM |
| -1 | Women who want men to “lead” don’t really want a leader they’re just lazy, don’t want to take any initiative, want their minds read and are actually the ones in charge"Happy wife, happy life" is an age-old saying for a reason my friend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/25 07:16 PM |
| 5 | Our understanding of traditional gender roles is entirely based off 50s nostalgiainvented by guys like me to sell pantyhose” As a hairy woman enjoyer I strongly agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/25 08:52 AM |
| 1 | To what extent would you want your spouse to emulate conventional/stereotypical traits associated with masculinity or femininity?Sure, but dominant male/submissive female relationships aren't really based on the female being the protector of the male. Men being (usually) the bigger and stronger partner makes this near-impossible. Whereas dominant female/submissive male is all about using that strength in her service (which, in BDSM terms, can translate into things like carrying her around the house etc) while allowing her to dominate psychologically/intellectually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/25 09:21 PM |
| 2 | To what extent would you want your spouse to emulate conventional/stereotypical traits associated with masculinity or femininity?Ehh, sort of. I'd argue that even as the submissive partner, I still take on the masculine role of being her servant and protector, and using my immense physical strength in service of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/25 09:13 PM |
| 5 | To what extent would you want your spouse to emulate conventional/stereotypical traits associated with masculinity or femininity?I'm very submissive and she's very dominant. Therefore we are very compatible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/25 02:47 PM |
| 14 | To what extent would you want your spouse to emulate conventional/stereotypical traits associated with masculinity or femininity?My GF is conventionally feminine in style, a sharp, put-together look just radiates elegance and confidence. I am also stylish and appearance focused (albeit a much more conventionally masculine clothing style), so I'd argue this is something we have in common rather than a "polarity"/yin-yang type thing. I am VERY submissive in the bedroom, and broadly submissive in the day-to-day aspects of the relationship (eg where we go out, what we do, what our timings are etc). My GF is very decisive in l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 05:31 PM |
| -2 | CMV: men push this narrative that older women are less attractive but they have it backwardsWomen thinking that these traits make them attractive are just as delusional as men who think being a Nice Guy is attractive. Nah, older women who have skill, stories to tell, and the kind of confidence that can only come from life experience are almost magnetically beautiful. Not to mention that the older generation tend to be much more classically stylish and classy looking than my (twentysomething) generation. I've dated women in their 50s and 60s who looked their age but were still gorgeous.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/25 05:43 AM |
| 5 | Delaying sex strategy really works well for women. That's why men in this sub hate and despise this strategy so much.I mean, folks should do with their bodies what they please. My GF and I live quite far away from each other, and on our first date we both had work in the morning, so "sex on the first date" was not feasible anyway. But I've always disliked the phrasing of "putting out" or "delaying sex". Surely that implies that sex is a commodity that men must earn from women (itself objectifying and commodifying women) as opposed to a mutually beneficial, enjoyable and satisfying experience for both parties? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/25 04:27 AM |
| 2 | DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵As someone who went from skinny to fit to very muscular, and started that journey (a very long time ago) thinking it would make me more attractive to women, in my single days having most of my compliments come from men was simultaneously heartwarming and soul-destroying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/25 06:15 AM |
| 17 | Men love transactional relationships.Life is too short to not do things you enjoy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/25 07:01 PM |
| 1 | Men love transactional relationships.Nod. I dress stylishly in terms of wearing clothes that fit well and show off a sense of unique, creative personal style. But none of my stuff is designer or particularly expensive, and I don't fuck with things like watches etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/25 06:59 PM |
| 29 | Men love transactional relationships.I... just wanted (and now have) a dominant girlfriend who doesn't shave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/25 06:52 PM |
| 7 | Q4M: to What is on your list of requirements for a wife?Fully financially self sufficient. Sexually dominant. Not religious or traditional. Not right wing. Not emotionally closed off. Not racist, sexist (to either gender), homophobic or transphobic. Smart/Stylish (or at least have more of a unique personal style than the generic jeans/tshirt/trainers that most people wear nowadays) Doesn't shave legs (highly preferred but so rare it would be illogical to make it a dealbreaker) Someone who sees the deeper aspects of society and the world and can hold … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/25 05:38 PM |
| 33 | What do you think about the idea that most women won’t date a bisexual guy? Do you think it’s true?they don't like the idea that their boyfriend had a penis inside him and that they would lose respect for him. I still can't quite understand the mental process behind this. Going to quote a rather long comment I left on another thread: *Male sexuality and males in general are seen as the innately dirty, impure and animalistic gender. For example, gay men have historically been criminalised and persecuted vastly more than lesbians (which is not to say Lesbians haven't faced their own struggles o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/25 11:21 AM |
| 7 | How do you feel when men on here treat your sexual autonomy and freedom of choice like an annoying barrier to what they feel entitled to?That, and also people who are deeply insecure can also have a subconscious need to have their self hatred validated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/25 11:13 AM |
| 0 | What complaint *COULD* a man state about being a man, that you would FULLY agree, and sympathize with? And you your first thought IS NOT: "But it's because of other men and the patriarchy..."I work in health and safety. This is completely inaccurate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/25 05:47 AM |
| 2 | How often are you experiencing some kind of flirtatious interaction?Saw a very stylish woman in a pub, complimented her outfit, started a conversation, offered her my number without any expectations, then left. The rest, as they say, is history. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/25 08:20 AM |
| 3 | In this day and age, women have to be strategically bitchy to their men in order to get the best resultsIsn't this the same, standard complaint about women liking bad boys who are obviously evil and not realising they are being manipulative. It's fairly true that evil people (both men and women) often have zero trouble with dating and relationships because they are very able to come across as likeable and charming (or at the very least appealing to those with "I can change him/her" fantasies). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/25 09:17 AM |
| 20 | In this day and age, women have to be strategically bitchy to their men in order to get the best results1) Some people don't care about marriage. 2) Being "strategically" anything in order to win partners is inadvisable for either males or females. Even if it works it is unlikely to bring you any real satisfaction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/25 09:09 AM |
| 6 | Only unattractive women ask to be choked during sexDoes this apply to males too? If so then according to this metric I am definitely an unattractive man... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/25 08:38 AM |
| 2 | Do men care if a woman is a celebrity or high-status?Celebrity men will usually date celebrity women. High status professional men will usually date high status professional women. Men who work in McDonalds will usually date women who work in McDonalds (or a similar profession) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/25 04:55 AM |
| 17 | Please don't give my husband longer paternity leaveIt’s not that I’m against fathers bonding with their babies. Far from it. I’m all for help with bedtime stories, bath time, and nappy changes at 3 a.m. What unsettles me is the idea of my husband being in the house. All day. For months on end. Anyone who lived through lockdown with a furloughed spouse, or whose partner works from home, will understand that having your other half home all day does not always mean domesticated bliss. Both the right wing and feminism think males fulfilling their ju… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/06/25 12:44 PM |
| 8 | Conservatives and the manosphere also love the demonization of men.Thank you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/25 12:24 AM |
| – | How effective is a “glow up” on a man (also known as “becoming attractive”) if he isn’t tall? Does this negate any of the effects from the other positive things he hypothetically did?if you can grow a beard..do that. Roughly Whereabouts in the world are you? I had a full beard at the age of 13 and it helped ensure I'd be considered the ugliest boy in my year (though my hairy back, unibrow and high pitched voice helped things along too). Even today my GF is hardline anti-beard and insists I'm clean-shaven at all times (which I don't mind tbh as I genuinely do look better without the beard) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/25 12:06 AM |
| 25 | Conservatives and the manosphere also love the demonization of men.Male sexuality and males in general are seen as the innately dirty, impure and animalistic gender. For example, gay men have historically been criminalised and persecuted vastly more than lesbians (which is not to say Lesbians haven't faced their own struggles of course). Because male sexuality is impure and dirty, males doing it with each other is repulsive to this purity-driven society. Women who have sex with women are not "slut-shamed" by society. It is specifically the act of having sex WIT… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/25 07:40 PM |
| 11 | Conservatives and the manosphere also love the demonization of men.Conservative ideology is heavily based around purity culture which is as much misandric as it is misogynistic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/25 07:19 PM |
| – | "Golddiggers" don't exist actually, it's just prostitution.The point is that when both women and men are given these scenarios (pick between two people who are identical except this one thing), both would go for the richer option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/25 12:36 PM |
| – | "Golddiggers" don't exist actually, it's just prostitution.If most men had the choice they would go with the richer option too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/25 11:34 AM |
| 6 | What do women mean by "good dick"?Yes, these are people with whom we are comfortable enough with each other to be able to discuss these topics openly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/25 11:12 AM |
| 13 | What do women mean by "good dick"?Among my friends I have had the opposite experience. Most ideally want average, but if forced to choose would pick smaller every time, especially those who have experienced bigger. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/25 10:01 AM |
| – | The only metric for your level of attractiveness is the results you’re getting. How you rate yourself, or others, or who you deem your level means absolutely nothing.I think we'll have to agree to disagree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/25 02:53 PM |
| – | The only metric for your level of attractiveness is the results you’re getting. How you rate yourself, or others, or who you deem your level means absolutely nothing.Perhaps, but I'd make the case that it's less of a binary of "disgusting vs not disgusting" and more of a... threshold. IE, the thought process is more like "I find this person attractive on some level, but not quite enough that I'd go out of my way to engage with them in a normal situation, but while I'm drunk and horny they'll do." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/25 02:46 PM |
| – | The only metric for your level of attractiveness is the results you’re getting. How you rate yourself, or others, or who you deem your level means absolutely nothing.I am sorry to hear that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/25 02:41 PM |
| – | The only metric for your level of attractiveness is the results you’re getting. How you rate yourself, or others, or who you deem your level means absolutely nothing.Some unrestricted sociosexuality people (people most likely to be picking up others at bars and whatnot) fuck as long as it is not disgust inducing, not exactly attraction. Even as someone with an ultra-high sex drive normally which becomes even more hypersexual when drunk, I have to find something desirable about a person on some level to want them. Otherwise I might as well go fuck a tree. Theres a guy I knew who fucked a fat girl cause he heard fat girls have tighter vaginas lol, not because … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/25 02:36 PM |
| – | The only metric for your level of attractiveness is the results you’re getting. How you rate yourself, or others, or who you deem your level means absolutely nothing.If that was the case then drunk people would try to fuck literally anything in sight. Even for beer goggles, there has to be some base level of attraction there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/25 01:48 PM |
| – | The only metric for your level of attractiveness is the results you’re getting. How you rate yourself, or others, or who you deem your level means absolutely nothing.Beer goggles only go so far. There has to be some base level of attraction for your sex drive to direct you towards a person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/25 01:46 PM |
| 2 | How often are you experiencing some kind of flirtatious interaction?I'm a taken man anyway, but I've always been extremely poor at telling the difference between someone being friendly and flirting. It's why I've always preferred women who are direct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/25 01:39 PM |
| – | The only metric for your level of attractiveness is the results you’re getting. How you rate yourself, or others, or who you deem your level means absolutely nothing.The actual cold hold reality, the only metric that counts of has any basis in objectivity, is who actually gives you sexual and romantic attention. But what if your results are basically randomised? I've had drunk women who were well above me in looks basically try to force themselves on me while on the way home from work, when I had an ugly buzz cut and was wearing my filthy work clothes. Meanwhile on nights out with friends, when I had done my hair and was dressed up, the solid 2/10 I'd drunke… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/25 01:37 PM |
| 1 | Can a man ever become as attractive to women as women are in the eyes of men?The part about the ability to provide resources was about men, not animal males, for which indeed it is more about caregiving -- though there are plenty of species (like a lot of birds) where the ability of males to bring extra food while the female is sitting on the eggs, and also after the young have hatched, is very useful. I get it, though I'd still argue that caregiving and protection are much more important traits for (human) men to have than resources if they want a partner who passionate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/25 04:56 PM |
| 1 | Can a man ever become as attractive to women as women are in the eyes of men?Interesting points, and I broadly agree, though I would argue that it is much more a selection of males for protection and parental investment (caregiving) than "the ability to provide resources", which is something females of every species have always been capable of doing themselves. And I'd also make the point that the "showiness" of human females is more about advertising social status. Things like colourful lips, nails and toes don't advertise any kind of reproductive advantage. They're cos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/25 03:28 PM |
| 8 | Can a man ever become as attractive to women as women are in the eyes of men?Yes, which suggests that males are equipped to find them attractive in this state without any need for beautification. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/25 01:23 PM |
| 7 | What are your thoughts on woman's "expiration date"?In accordance with my preferences, the experiences were more like a hike through a rainforest than an excavation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/25 01:03 PM |
| 42 | Can a man ever become as attractive to women as women are in the eyes of men?Males are the physically more beautiful and elegant sex in almost every animal species. They are larger, more colourful, more flamboyant, and have more physical features that exist purely for aesthetic purposes. Females generally have a more utilitarian appearance, because there's less of a pressure to prove themselves the genetically fittest option among a group of females. However, a testosterone-driven sex drive means that (heterosexual) males perceive female features (of all kinds) as innate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/25 12:59 PM |
| 11 | What are your thoughts on woman's "expiration date"?Complete shit. I've dated (very sexually experienced) women in their 50s and 60s who've said I was the best they've ever had. I would've stayed with them too if not for the logistic issues caused by the age gap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/25 12:50 PM |
| 2 | Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enoughThank you. With all this gender war nonsense it's easy to forget this stuff affects real people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/25 05:10 PM |
| 25 | Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enoughIn my experience men are generally more likely to compromise on specific desires they may have than women, though it depends on the person of course. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/25 02:04 PM |
| 8 | Have you heard of Postgenderism?There have been studies about toys being given to young chimpanzees. The female chimpanzees preferred dolls. The male chimpanzees preferred toys that rolled, such as toy carts. If you actually looked at those baby/monkey studies you'll see that the results were actually very varied. In one the females indicated a preference while the males did not, in another the males indicated a preference while the females did not, in others both gravitated towards "gender neutral" toys. Also, the methodology… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/06/25 05:51 PM |
| 4 | The biggest problem in dating is not dating apps or generalizations, it’s that bad men get with good women and bad women get with good men.This isn't a "men" or "women" problem. It's very much a "human" problem. The fact is, a significant portion of the human race will always prefer to date, befriend, work for, do business with, employ, vote for an evil person who is charismatic and fun to be around over a socially awkward but fundamentally decent person. It is to an extent wired into our DNA to follow charismatic people. That, combined with busloads of people with Adverse Childhood Experiences subconsciously attempting to recreate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/25 04:34 AM |
| 4 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADWell that's good then because most of them don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/25 06:27 PM |
| 4 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADThere is no excuse for a man to want a Kardashian arse in 2025. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/25 06:18 PM |
| 3 | Men who demand traditionalism and submissiveness from women without being competent himself will never deserve it and should not get it.Maybe, just maybe, not every man wants a submissive "feeeemale" (whatever that is). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/25 05:18 PM |
| 3 | Is a man acting "masculine" a prerequisite for you getting turned on by him? And, would you still be able to find someone who didn't act masculine arousing, so long as he looks hot?All I know is that a lot of the men who are angry at women for liking tall men (or a certain other thing being of a larger size) become either very quiet or very defensive when asked if they'd date a woman with unshaven legs and underarms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/25 04:49 AM |
| 4 | Is a man acting "masculine" a prerequisite for you getting turned on by him? And, would you still be able to find someone who didn't act masculine arousing, so long as he looks hot?Like if I found someone initially attractive but then they open their mouth and they had a very high-pitched voice or something like that I would immediately lose interest. Eeek! I have a high pitched voice and am also extremely hairy which is also something a lot of women find a turnoff. Guess it's game over. (Jokes, my GF likes me for both of those things. But if we start saying absurd stuff like people liking different things, we may as well pack this sub up and go home.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/25 04:40 AM |
| 2 | Is a man acting "masculine" a prerequisite for you getting turned on by him? And, would you still be able to find someone who didn't act masculine arousing, so long as he looks hot?I saw someone like this today. Wearing one of those feminine corset-shirt type things and heeled boots while being bearded, muscular and "rough" looking. I'm a straight male but I can tell a guy who has an army of female admirers when I see one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/25 08:20 PM |
| 1 | Is a woman acting "feminine" a prerequisite for you getting turned on by her? And, would you still be able to find someone who didn't act feminine arousing, so long as she looks hot?Yes indeed, my family is of Islamic background so I'm no stranger to the most misogynistic ideology ever created. But I do think empathy and learning to see the other gender as human beings is vital to prevent people (both males and females) from becoming dangerous offenders once their instincts kick in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/25 07:18 PM |
| 4 | Is a woman acting "feminine" a prerequisite for you getting turned on by her? And, would you still be able to find someone who didn't act feminine arousing, so long as she looks hot?I see where you're coming from, and would agree that the sexualisation in society and prevalence of porn can be dangerous. Though I would point out that hardline Islamic societies which feature basically zero titillation, and keep males and females as separate as possible (women must not only be fully covered but also can't travel without a male guardian, can't be in the same room as a male who isn't a spouse/close relative etc) still have very high sexual harassment rates (highest in the world … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/25 06:58 PM |
| 4 | Is a woman acting "feminine" a prerequisite for you getting turned on by her? And, would you still be able to find someone who didn't act feminine arousing, so long as she looks hot?Modesty in dress doesn't weaken male sexual instincts or deter them. The only way to do that is to ensure males develop a sexuality that is based on empathy and an understanding of their desired sex as fully functioning human beings just like themselves (females need to be taught this too which is also a problem). Not sure what the sweet spot is--can be too much or too little. But we are not pushing the too much modesty side of the equation. I'm pretty neutral on the issue. Ultimately I think ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/25 06:39 PM |
| 7 | Is a woman acting "feminine" a prerequisite for you getting turned on by her? And, would you still be able to find someone who didn't act feminine arousing, so long as she looks hot?To be clear I do not hold this kind of fetishism, and I certainly would never entertain or condone the "what were you wearing?" question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/25 06:25 PM |
| 16 | Is a woman acting "feminine" a prerequisite for you getting turned on by her? And, would you still be able to find someone who didn't act feminine arousing, so long as she looks hot?Even things like nuns and hijabs, designed for the specific purpose of deterring and weakening male attraction to women, just end up becoming sexualised and fetishised. Male sexual instincts are truly something else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/25 06:09 PM |
| 0 | Why dominant man are such a magnet for women, what's the cause for attraction?Society can be (and very frequently) wrong about a great many things. There's nothing stopping women from having some or all of these traits, and nothing stopping men from not having some or all of these traits. The problem with societal definitions of masculinity and femininity is that the spectrum is so ill-defined and the overlap so significant that the distinctions become effectively meaningless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/25 04:51 AM |
| -1 | Why dominant man are such a magnet for women, what's the cause for attraction?One person's masculine is another's feminine. Lots of things have been the way they are historically but aren't now. The traits you've listed are attractive ones and make any potential partner a good person to be around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/25 04:31 AM |
| 1 | Why dominant man are such a magnet for women, what's the cause for attraction?That may be true for most folk but for us PIV has my GF on top 99% of the time (even when I'm putting the work in). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/25 04:18 AM |
| 0 | Why dominant man are such a magnet for women, what's the cause for attraction?Perhaps, but I wouldn't call them masculine traits. I'd expect any partner of mine to have those traits too (which my GF does). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/25 09:57 PM |
| 2 | Why dominant man are such a magnet for women, what's the cause for attraction?I'd argue that it's still pretty close to being passive even in that scenario | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/25 09:56 PM |
| 0 | Why dominant man are such a magnet for women, what's the cause for attraction?But aren't these really just basic life skills? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/25 09:51 PM |
| 6 | Why dominant man are such a magnet for women, what's the cause for attraction?Well, for a woman it’s impossible for her to have hetero sex with a man where he is “passive.” (Spoiler tagged for risk of TMI) While I prefer being active and dedicated in the bedroom, couple of times my missus was very excited and rode me like a stallion while I just laid back. It was great. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/25 09:49 PM |
| 1 | Why dominant man are such a magnet for women, what's the cause for attraction?The only way I can explain this is that I am attracted to competent men Competent at what though? He could be great at DIY but a terrible gardener. He could be a very skilled driver but very poor at navigating public transport. He could be very clean and organised but an awful cook etc. Do you mean "basic life skills" or do you expect a polymath? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/25 09:44 PM |
| 6 | Is being too nurturing a turn off?Making food for my GF after fun time is simply the best. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/25 06:13 PM |
| 2 | You need to realise that for women, you need to compete with NO man as well as with the men she is attracted toThe strongest, most successful males are still the loudest, most conspicuous, exhausting men who make terrific noise for attention. This is also the case for the loudest, most conspicuous, exhausting women who make terrific noise for attention. Mean girls or "Stacies" etc. The difference is just less noticeable because of a testosterone sex drive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/25 09:21 PM |
| 3 | You need to realise that for women, you need to compete with NO man as well as with the men she is attracted toThe answer is culture. Human males also have "masculinised flamboyance" in the form of their deep voices and beards, much like the male peacock's feathers or the male lion's mane. So we can infer that there is an evolutionary preference for the male to be colourful and flamboyant to attract the female. However, culture (or more specifically Western culture) smothers this and labels males who are too colourful and theatrical as gay or effeminate, and especially where maleness is seen as innately … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/25 08:01 PM |
| 15 | You need to realise that for women, you need to compete with NO man as well as with the men she is attracted toAs someone who has been in prison that isn't my experience at all. But back to the matter at hand for a moment, my point is not that "all women are like this", it is that the overwhelming majority of women have a level of optionality that makes it easy to "be happy single", and their imprisoned counterparts offer at least an insight into whether women are really "happier single" without that optionality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/25 06:30 PM |
| 16 | You need to realise that for women, you need to compete with NO man as well as with the men she is attracted toNo, prisoners tend to be more violent and aggressive than the general population. But the point is that those are probably the only heterosexual women in the West (besides those who spurn relationships) who have zero optionality and a level of desperation for intimacy, compared to the "happily single" ones who at least have some options even if they aren't great. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/25 06:23 PM |
| 29 | You need to realise that for women, you need to compete with NO man as well as with the men she is attracted toI have a friend who works in rehabilitation, and has done work with probably the only significant demographic of women in the Western World who are "involuntarily celibate" (imprisoned women). He's an average looking guy, but the (very high) amount of sexual harassment and sexual aggression he received from those women suggests that it's not all about women being more willing to be happy single and that their near-unlimited levels of optionality also play a role. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/25 06:08 PM |
| 1 | How normal is it for women to feel comfortable as the provider role in a relationship? Especially when she earns more than enough where she isn't stressing about money or a home because she already has both, and is looking to settle down with a man she finds attractive?Probably because I've been a carer of some kind most of my life (both parents and some extended family have mental difficulties), so I just couldn't have romantic ties to someone I have "responsibility" for. I can love her but not desire her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/25 03:08 PM |
| 2 | How normal is it for women to feel comfortable as the provider role in a relationship? Especially when she earns more than enough where she isn't stressing about money or a home because she already has both, and is looking to settle down with a man she finds attractive?To be fair I actually agree with this. Not that I couldn't respect her as such, but if she's someone that I need to "provide for" and "take care of" then I have trouble seeing her as a competent adult and thus trouble maintaining attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/25 01:13 PM |
| 8 | What do RP think of attractive men with less attractive women?(sigh) I like a stylish charismatic older lady who doesn't shave. Sue me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/25 08:41 AM |
| 8 | What do RP think of attractive men with less attractive women?So you should date someone for social worth rather than someone you're attracted to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/25 08:30 AM |
| 0 | Men below 25 want a relationship more than women below 25I'd have settled at 18 if I had the means to do so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/25 08:50 PM |
| 16 | High value virgin women dont wan't sexually unsuccessful menI've had some obscene fantasies over the years but none of them have ever included "virginal", "submissive" or "domestic". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/25 08:18 PM |
| 4 | Do girls mature faster than boys? How is “maturity” defined?I can’t say I see more mature guys at that age. Those guys tend to have a much more "it is what it is" kind of stoic mentality. You rarely see them complain about anything (though I don't see much happiness in them either). You are right though that a lot of them are slobbish, inconsiderate and uncaring. Empathy is one of the things that gets beaten out of you by a traditionally masculine upbringing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/25 05:22 PM |
| 2 | Do girls mature faster than boys? How is “maturity” defined?In my experience by the time of reaching late teens/early adulthood, young, single men tend to have more independence and more responsibility by the time of reaching early adulthood compared to their female peers. I know many more female peers who are in their mid/late 20s and still act like teenagers than I do men in that position. I do think most of this is socialisation, however. Boys tend to get made to grow up (or in their terms "man up") much more than girls, and learn much earlier that no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/25 05:07 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: do you pay for your platonic women friends when going out?I like to think of myself as a non-feminist egalitarian. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/25 04:17 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: do you pay for your platonic women friends when going out?"That man should want to provide, to take care of you." K see ya. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/25 04:11 PM |
| 2 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADmost men, regardless of whatever pill they belong in, will choose the 0count woman over the 50count woman. I wouldn't! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/25 01:13 AM |
| -2 | Female Sexuality: The Power Nobody Wants to Admit Exists (Until It Stops Working)I am so sorry that this happened to you. What a vile individual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/25 06:55 PM |
| 4 | One of the main motivations for women getting into relationships with men is resources.That's the mentality most people should approach relationships with, until moving in together and kids become a possibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/25 01:51 PM |
| 12 | One of the main motivations for women getting into relationships with men is resources.TBF the majority of "professional" and above men aren't going to date a woman who makes significantly less either if she's going to be a net drain on their finances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/25 01:31 PM |
| 9 | One of the main motivations for women getting into relationships with men is resources.You're absolutely correct, but it does make me laugh that we spend so much time on here debating something which is at best heavily misinterpreted or at worst an out-and-out pseudoscience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/25 12:33 PM |
| 5 | One of the main motivations for women getting into relationships with men is resources.Genuinely most of the women I've been intimate with have made either similar or more money to me. My current GF makes 3-4x as much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/25 12:22 PM |
| 2 | One of the main motivations for women getting into relationships with men is resources.Men shouldn't bother dating until they're in a position to improve a woman's life monetarily. I dunno, it's worked pretty well for me so far. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/25 12:07 PM |
| 15 | One of the main motivations for women getting into relationships with men is resources.Females of every animal species acquire their own resources, even while pregnant or nursing. Prehistoric female humans foraged, and to a lesser extent hunted. It's thought that the majority of calories consumed by prehistoric humans were from foraged items, which were predominantly acquired by females. They are not attracted to "resources acquisition" and never have been. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/25 11:34 AM |
| 3 | Men dont deserve sympathyMen with genuine intent are rare. Show your working? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/25 03:20 PM |
| – | If dating dynamics were changed, women would not use the same argumentsI have never liked (in an attraction sense, nothing against those who are that way as people) "delicate", "demure" femininity. I have always desired something more vicious and aggressive in the women I date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/25 02:20 PM |
| – | If dating dynamics were changed, women would not use the same arguments(Sigh) I prefer a dominant woman who doesn't shave. Sue me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/25 02:13 PM |
| – | If dating dynamics were changed, women would not use the same argumentsif she didn’t look like that To be clear, like what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/25 02:05 PM |
| – | If dating dynamics were changed, women would not use the same argumentsIf I was on a date with someone who insisted I pay because of the style/clothes/hair/makeup/anything else that they chose (in addition to paying for the style/clothes/haircut etc that I chose so that I would look good for the date), this person obviously has incompatible values to mine and this relationship is a non-starter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/25 12:24 PM |
| 8 | What are the effects of women increasingly attending college more than men and them being on the path to start earning more in the future?TIL that males don't have instincts to be fathers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/25 07:50 PM |
| 13 | What are the effects of women increasingly attending college more than men and them being on the path to start earning more in the future?Absolutely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/25 06:34 PM |
| 66 | It's not mysogynist for guys to tell their gf not to wear revealing clothes or not being comfortable with her going to clubs with her girlfriends.Me and my GF are both long past our clubbing days. But we live in the UK, which is cold, wet and horrible for the majority of the year, so you can bet a hairy cunt that we're both in shorts and "revealing" clothing in the brief summer months we get. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/25 06:33 PM |
| 17 | What are the effects of women increasingly attending college more than men and them being on the path to start earning more in the future?There needs to be a greater emphasis on teaching of skills such as cooking and childcare - especially for boys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/25 06:21 PM |
| 37 | What are the effects of women increasingly attending college more than men and them being on the path to start earning more in the future?If Stay at Home Dads become more normalised in generations to come, and companies are forced to be more considerate of both maternity and paternity leave, I can't see any notable negative effect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/25 06:10 PM |
| 1 | What makes a man a bad manFair enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/25 03:51 PM |
| 2 | What makes a man a bad manGenuine question: What's the difference between someone who goes to the gym to keep fit and a "gym bro"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/25 03:40 PM |
| – | Men lie about not preferring big boobs the same way women lie about not preferring big dicks.No doubt this is important to some men, but there are others out there who are ambivalent or prefer smaller. Personally, a long time ago I sat next to someone at work who was very well-endowed in that regard, and I didn't even notice this for three months despite seeing her every day. It's just not something that interests me. I do find the Kardashian arse repulsive though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/25 05:56 AM |
| 9 | Would they have patience with a demisexual woman?I don't think I am demi, but to be honest I don't have any real desire to have sex with someone I don't have a deep emotional connection with. I can find them attractive but not want tp go any further if there's no chance of genuine connection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/25 07:36 PM |
| – | Modern men suffer because they misunderstand the nature of women.My girlfriend ties me up and has her way with me for her survival? Well colour me surprised! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/25 07:29 PM |
| – | Napoleon complex would never slide if it was directed towards womenPlenty of people will also be standing up for Bella Ramsay and saying nobody should be bullied for what they look like. If Bella Ramsay were a short men, people may stand up for him but then laugh at height shaming of others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/25 04:22 PM |
| – | Napoleon complex would never slide if it was directed towards womenTo be clear I am not American, so the "Karen" meme doesn't mean as much to me. Based on the context I saw it used online, I always assumed it was a jab at snobby middle class right wing white women (which of course is not right either). If it's intent is for age shaming then that is wrong. In the UK, we have a similar phenomenon called "Gammon" referring to older, overweight, bald, poorly aged white men with bad skin and right wing opinions. Obviously neither of these things are morally right, b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/25 04:14 PM |
| – | Napoleon complex would never slide if it was directed towards womenDo you think a comment like "if someone is aggressive on a Teams call, I just assume he's short" would be acceptable in your workplace if it was said about overweight women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/25 04:01 PM |
| – | Napoleon complex would never slide if it was directed towards womenYou're talking about things said and done by the terminally online. It's not acceptable in the mainstream discourse to bodyshame women in any way. Such behaviour would get a person shamed online and would not be tolerated in a workplace. The same is not true for short men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/25 03:35 PM |
| – | Napoleon complex would never slide if it was directed towards womenThe woman who sits next to me at work openly, casually said that if a man is loud/aggressive on a teams call, she always assumes they are short. And she didn't get into any trouble for this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/25 03:01 PM |
| – | Napoleon complex would never slide if it was directed towards womenI know women (and people in general) from all walks of life, including from these groups. And yes, many of them have faced some appalling behaviour. The difference is that for every nasty scumbag, there will be plenty of people (including me) who will support that person and show solidarity with them, and call out the general behaviours of fatshaming, slutshaming etc. I've never seen anyone go to bat for short men in this way. And even people who would stick up for them in individual situations … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/25 02:44 PM |
| – | Napoleon complex would never slide if it was directed towards womenOP's argument is that pretty much everybody besides redpill/misogynistic men will (rightfully) call this kind of stuff out, while heightshaming is broadly acceptable in society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/25 02:31 PM |
| 2 | I dont understand why people get upset about other people's unrealistic standardsit's still significantly more justifiable and less stupid compared to the preferences women have. Why? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/25 08:09 PM |
| 1 | I dont understand why people get upset about other people's unrealistic standardsYes, and I'm allowed to think "the heart" is stupid for wanting it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/25 06:56 PM |
| 5 | I dont understand why people get upset about other people's unrealistic standardsIt's a false/created ideal, a beauty standard for the sake of being a beauty standard. Repulsive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/25 01:00 PM |
| 3 | I dont understand why people get upset about other people's unrealistic standardsEh, the terminology is pretty interchangeable but the point is the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/25 12:08 PM |
| 2 | I dont understand why people get upset about other people's unrealistic standardsYou can be a "height queen" or a "size queen" or want "princess treatment" from a provider man, and it doesn't upset me on a personal level. But I still think those are stupid and unfair preferences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/25 10:22 AM |
| 7 | I dont understand why people get upset about other people's unrealistic standardsYou can be a "height queen" or a "size queen" or want "princess treatment" from a provider man, and it doesn't upset me on a personal level. But I still think those are stupid and unfair preferences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/25 10:20 AM |
| 63 | Men need to stop asking women about Penis Size preferences because it's a completely pointless discussionI'm going to be candid about this in the spirit of discussion: I am in fact below average in that department. Quite significantly so in fact. I didn't confirm this fact for myself until my mid twenties. While I was always semi-consciously aware that my little guy wasn't all that large, I never put any time or effort into thinking about it. I was too busy being insecure about being ugly (or so I thought back then), unpopular, poor, emotional, high pitched voice, and obscenely hairy, all of which … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/25 09:38 AM |
| 8 | I dont understand why people get upset about other people's unrealistic standardsRead it again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/25 09:34 AM |
| 5 | I dont understand why people get upset about other people's unrealistic standardsK | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/25 07:20 AM |
| 17 | I dont understand why people get upset about other people's unrealistic standardsEveryone has the right to date or not-date whoever they want, and be attracted or not-attracted to whoever they want. But we also have the right to form opinions about people based on the preferences they have (so long as we don't use those opinions to bully and harass others). You can be a "height queen" or a "size queen" or want "princess treatment" from a provider man, and it doesn't upset me on a personal level. But I still think those are stupid and unfair preferences. And men aren't innoce… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/25 07:13 AM |
| – | Advice for Young Men with Potential to AchieveI'm a straight male and not American so I can't say I understood the reference. But to be honest I mostly want a boring life in the future, so for any long term relationship financial self-sufficiency and skill are paramount. Fortunately my GF has both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/25 05:54 AM |
| – | Advice for Young Men with Potential to AchieveI broadly agree with this, but I think there is a fine balance between giving someone a fair chance while they're down in life and working to turn things around, and letting that same person be a drain on you. This is true for both women and men. I wouldn't date someone who wasn't fully financially self sufficient unless they had the skills and competencies to eventually earn their own way in the future. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/25 01:50 AM |
| 6 | A man’s desire to be promiscuous, but want a non-promiscuous woman isn’t “values.” It’s preference.Purity culture is both misogynist and misandrist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/25 07:19 PM |
| 3 | If a woman genuinely likes a man, she'll make it easy for him.Fair enough. Personally if I wasn't that into someone I was on a date with I would be more inclined to pay to make up for wasting her time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/25 05:39 PM |
| 1 | If a woman genuinely likes a man, she'll make it easy for him.Again, I’m not “basing my feelings” on a man on if he pays. But if he doesn’t pay, I will start preparing for there not to be a second date, bc in my experience there hasn’t been - the guys who didn’t pay were always the same guys who stopped texting back shortly after the first date. My system is the complete opposite of this. I offer to pay or split. If she takes the offer for me to pay I won't be seeing her again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/25 12:24 PM |
| 1 | A good number of women aren't hypergamous and most dating advice for men online suck.Yes we're fundamentally different, but even in my experience with women this just doesn't line up with anything I've ever encountered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/25 04:40 AM |
| 5 | A good number of women aren't hypergamous and most dating advice for men online suck.I'll engage in mutual flirting with a man, but if I am actually the one trying to get him to go out with me, there is no way I would be attracted to him ever. No judgement but I genuinely do not understand this perspective. Like, I am nowhere close to the best man in pretty much any space I've been in. Not a tall chad, not rich, decent but not spectacular face, obscenely hairy etc. And I've had multiple women who were more attractive than me (in looks alone) trying to force themselves on me imme… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/25 07:39 PM |
| 5 | How are women who enjoy casual sex “being used?”Majority of women I've dated have been at least 5 years older than me and none of these have ever been a problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/25 06:24 AM |
| 7 | How are women who enjoy casual sex “being used?”Why is the bargaining chip losing value in this scenario? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/25 06:14 AM |
| 2 | How are women who enjoy casual sex “being used?”Eh, I like to think of myself as a card-carrying member of the "flawed but fundamentally decent" club. Back then when I hang around with those people we were all pretty screwed up in various ways. You don't tend to end up in those circles if you grew up in a loving and comfortable home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/25 06:03 AM |
| 2 | How are women who enjoy casual sex “being used?”So you were a little hurt they wanted commitment from other men? Pretty much. I wanted to cook for them and take them on genuinely fun dates, while all those guys did was text "come mine". And the less effort those guys made the more the girls wanted them. At the time I thought of it as a classic "bad boy vs nice guy" scenario, though in hindsight that was very hypocritical as all of us were involved in drug dealing and street violence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/25 05:58 AM |
| 1 | How are women who enjoy casual sex “being used?”I mean, I went through a time when I was about 18-19, when I was hanging around a few young women who were happy to sleep with me, but pursued other men in our circles who were emotionally unavailable and noncommittal. It was pretty shit for me to be honest, but at the end of the day I chose to sleep with them of my own free will. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/25 05:40 AM |
| 32 | How are women who enjoy casual sex “being used?”Unless one partner is being coerced/exploited, then nobody is being "used". There are other problems such as a person being strung along under the promise of something more serious (and yes, this happens to both genders) but if both partners are consenting then nobody is being used. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/25 05:34 AM |
| 2 | Why do age gap preferences in men and women differ so much?I feel the same about younger women. There are some early-mid 20s women who still have a teenage girl-ish appearance, and it's just impossible to feel any kind of attraction to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/25 05:48 PM |
| 8 | "green flags" in women that aren't necessarily attractive, or "red flags" that aren't unattractive?Of course a demure woman who dresses femininely is more appealing than a profane tattooed loudmouth. Speak for yourself. I for one welcome our tattooed foul-mouthed overlords. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/25 05:56 AM |
| 6 | Red Pill men and Blue Pill want the same thing but how they approach it is vastly differentI want to submit to him. once you activate that primal desire—the one rooted in a woman’s longing for a dominant (not abusive) man—she becomes putty in your hands. What if this is the exact kind of woman you do not want to date? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/25 10:53 PM |
| 4 | Q4RP: What're your thoughts on femdom?I feel the same about dominating a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/25 05:31 PM |
| – | "I see far more attractive women than men" shows that beauty standards for women are not highI actually agree that men should step up their game and be more appearance-invested. My point is that women being the "beautiful" sex goes a lot deeper than how they choose to present themselves. Men having a vastly higher sex drive and women being generally more selective makes that inevitable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/25 08:05 AM |
| – | "I see far more attractive women than men" shows that beauty standards for women are not highIf ALL women suddenly shaved their heads, refused makeup, stopped shaving their legs, wore baggy unflattering clothing everywhere, the average woman would still be much more desired than the average male because of the differences in sex drive/selectivity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/25 07:51 AM |
| – | Q4M: Would you be receptive to feedback on your appearance from your women?Hmm. Where in the world are you? I'm in the UK, and I've noticed that when clean-shaven, the amount of compliments I get skyrockets. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/25 08:41 AM |
| – | Q4M: Would you be receptive to feedback on your appearance from your women?The problem with beards (and hairy men in general, of which I'm probably in the 99th percentile) is that women tend to either love or hate them. And you're never going to know who prefers what. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/25 08:17 AM |
| – | Q4M: Would you be receptive to feedback on your appearance from your women?Maybe it's because I've almost always dated women with the "fashionista" aesthetic, but imho it's quite easy to tell "natural makeup" from a genuine bare face. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/25 07:30 AM |
| – | Q4M: Would you be receptive to feedback on your appearance from your women?I never particularly liked it anyway so it's not an inconvenience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/25 07:01 AM |
| – | Q4M: Would you be receptive to feedback on your appearance from your women?My girlfriend is very clear she only likes me when I'm clean shaven. It's a non-negotiable for her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/25 06:53 AM |
| 8 | Kindness is Considered Weak, Weak turns women offTestosterone also gives men facial hair and deeper voices to make them more distinctive and noticeable to women. It does similar things to other species, such as like the Lion's mane, deer's antlers, Peacock's feathers etc. Almost like it's biological imperative for males to look good to females or something something... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/25 05:40 AM |
| 13 | Besides high standards, feminism, or something else that is women's fault, why do some young men struggle to ask women out these days?The demise of community social spaces making it so that the only real places to meet someone are bars/clubs, where it's pitch black, packed full of people, and the music is so loud you have to shout into a person's ear to talk to them. Not exactly conducive. Also, the (very rightful) pushback against sexual harassment has led to genuinely well-intentioned guys being frightened to approach for fear of being creeps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/25 07:30 PM |
| 5 | For those of you who subscribe to RPW philosophy: do you fear your husband will eventually just leave you for a younger woman?I do think you have a point that relationships can't always be 50/50. I just disagree that it needs to be set up around gender roles. Personally I'm happy to follow my GF's lead in most things. She's a lot more "worldly wise" than I am (I've got her beat on street smarts however ha ha) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 07:57 AM |
| 1 | For those of you who subscribe to RPW philosophy: do you fear your husband will eventually just leave you for a younger woman?If it works for you then fair enough. How exactly does this work in practice? Do you "defer" to him on certain things because you believe that's your "role" or because he happens to know more about a certain issue? What if you're more knowledgeable than him on something? Would he still get the final decision. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 07:16 AM |
| 4 | For those of you who subscribe to RPW philosophy: do you fear your husband will eventually just leave you for a younger woman?RPW still advocates for deference as a strategy when in a relationship Isn't this... somewhat unhealthy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 06:46 AM |
| – | Considerations about money in the dating marketplace.I just don't have any interest in providing for anyone (besides any potential children). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 06:38 AM |
| 4 | Considerations about money in the dating marketplace.I am (through a combination of extreme hard work and pure, unadulterated luck) financially secure and in a lucrative job, and am entirely financially self-sufficient. My girlfriend is also financially self-sufficient, and I wouldn't date anyone who wasn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/25 08:05 PM |
| 2 | Do women generally experience shame about sex and their sexuality?The roots of conservative religion run deep in the red pill, and the fellas figure slut shaming will somehow reroute women in their direction. Redpill is the gender equivalent of Victorian "scientific racism". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/25 08:14 AM |
| 1 | There is a serious hypocrisy in modern dating.My GF was shaved when I first met her and asked her out, and in the initial stages of the relationship had absolutely no interest in giving the not-shaving thing a try. And I knew not to put pressure on her. If she wanted to stop shaving it had to be her decision, and I needed to respect her personal choice. Didn't stop me being attracted to her for other reasons. I'm not sugarcoating the fact that seeing a woman's sexually mature traits turns me into an unholy hybrid of a giggling, infatuated, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/25 05:25 AM |
| 3 | There is a serious hypocrisy in modern dating.I get ya. I think in many cases fantasies can and should be best left as fantasies. I personally find women more attractive when they don't shave. However, 95% of women in the Western World choose to shave, including my girlfriend. Sometimes she will let her legs grow out as a special treat for me, but 75% of the time she is fully smooth shaven (she'd like to do more but finds it really hard to resist the conditioning that she needs to be smooth and shaved to be "feminine"). Do I find her more a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/25 08:58 PM |
| 1 | There is a serious hypocrisy in modern dating.Wouldn't it make more sense to ensure these kind of protections are in place for yourself and your own earnings? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/25 06:16 PM |
| 6 | There is a serious hypocrisy in modern dating.But if the woman in question is otherwise able to provide for herself and any potential offspring financially, is there actually any need for any of this? If it's just a fantasy lifestyle that she really wants to enjoy, then I don't begrudge anyone for their preferences, and I hope she finds a partner that would be equally happy with that lifestyle. But it is ultimately just a fantasy and not something anyone should expect or demand of a partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/25 04:33 PM |
| 3 | There is a serious hypocrisy in modern dating.Nothing a man has to do in the relationship will compare to the sheer burden of pregnancy and childbirth Agreed. which is why it’s fair for otherwise equal women to seek out male partners who will take on other burdens. But isn't that a rather... risky strategy? Like if you're putting all of yours and your baby's eggs in his basket, and he suddenly develops an illness and is unable to work for the rest of his life, who is going to put food on the table then? Or what if he gets hit by a bus and d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/25 04:15 PM |
| 1 | Most dating advice given to men tries to turn them into something they're not.I agree. That's why I'm making the point that this advice not helpful and ultimately not needed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/25 06:00 PM |
| 3 | Most dating advice given to men tries to turn them into something they're not.I agree. My point is specifically that men are told they need to be this way when they do not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/25 04:43 PM |
| 6 | Most dating advice given to men tries to turn them into something they're not.For me it was the opposite. I got a double whammy of traditional masculinity. Born into a South Asian muslim Family while being raised in a predominantly White working class town where men were men. There was no passive people pleasing nature taught to us. Only toughness and emotional suppression. And for me those were not my "natural tendencies". Don't get me wrong. My upbringing (and to an extent my current job) allows me to switch "that person" on at will, but it's not something I've ever gai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/25 04:41 PM |
| 11 | Most dating advice given to men tries to turn them into something they're not.The most logical idea is that Bob realises Alice isn't the best person for him, and instead hopes to meet someone who isn't a confrontational go-getter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/25 04:37 PM |
| – | Stop confusing your own experiences with the experiences of the others. People have different standards for diferent people.They were people I knew as friends-of-friends or work colleagues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/25 03:37 PM |
| – | Stop confusing your own experiences with the experiences of the others. People have different standards for diferent people.Every time a man says something like "women don't approach men" I have to correct him: "women don't approach you". I don't think it is quite this simple. In the past I've known women for lengths of time who never gave ANY hint of interest in me. Not a lingering stare, not a tap on the arm, not trying to be near me. Then suddenly we're at the same place and we've had too much to drink, and she's trying to kiss me, touching me wherever she likes, demanding I come back to hers etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/25 03:16 PM |
| – | The Impact of Narrow Masculinity Narratives on Modern RelationshipsI'm saying that a large amount of males essentially get their natural human emotions smothered from the moment they can walk and talk. We are conditioned towards stoicism from early childhood onwards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/25 09:21 AM |
| – | The Impact of Narrow Masculinity Narratives on Modern RelationshipsI shouldn't expect any better from chatgpt, but if "stoicism" was just a "healthy, natural masculine trait" it wouldn't have to be beaten into us as children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/25 09:00 AM |
| 2 | There’s no such thing as no pill, all pills are dumb etcBut the ultimate question is, can we ever get to the place of complete gender egalitarianism on the sexual/relationship marketplace? I mean... my girlfriend earns vastly more money than I do and is the dominant partner in the bedroom. Not egalitarian in the literal sense but very different to a traditional gender role relationship so... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/25 08:30 PM |
| 2 | There’s no such thing as no pill, all pills are dumb etcI went through all of this long before I was aware any of the pills even existed. Eventually I concluded that people are shades of grey. No two are the same. Bluepill is naive but well meaning. Redpill is right about a few things but for the wrong reasons. And yes, we can't discount how much socialisation, tradition and conditioning warps minds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/25 08:11 PM |
| 11 | There’s no such thing as no pill, all pills are dumb etcThe lie of bluepill is that if you exercise, dress respectably, have a reasonably respectable job, make an effort with your appearance, and are a decent human being, "the right person will come along". The lie of redpill is that if you do all of the above, but replace the "decent human being" part with being the worst and darkest version of yourself, "evolutionary psychology" will make you irresistibly attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/25 07:26 PM |
| 14 | Men will always have to be the ones to approachI'm happy being the one to approach if I like someone but also am not averse to being approached either. I approached my GF first but I gave her my number, doubting she would use it, but she did. Let folks do what they please. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/25 09:21 PM |
| – | Do looks stop mattering after a certain level of attractiveness?(shrugs) One person's 7 is another's 4 etc. Look, I'm absolutely never going to have the six pack ripped underwear model type body. I have more of a powerlifter type physique which some women do like but is way more of a niche. I'm also obscenely hairy which women tend to either love or hate. To some women I'm a solid 9 (and a 10 to my GF or course), others I'm a solid "Ew". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/25 06:49 AM |
| 3 | Men who think makeup is deceptive while being ok with body hair removal are inconsistent.(Shrugs) Some of us prefer hairy women, so erm, damn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/25 09:33 PM |
| 136 | Sir Keir Starmer says minister for men 'not the answer' to 'problem with boys' raised in Netflix drama AdolescenceIt's never the answer with this lot. Trickle down equality only it seems. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/03/25 04:44 PM |
| 36 | Boys to get anti-misogyny lessons as TV drama Adolescence hits homeMost of the ahow seemed incredibly empathetic toward the boy and the circumstances that contributed to his crime. Did it though? Don't get me wrong, it does some interesting stuff about the boy's relationship with his father (a flawed but ultimately decent man), how he wasn't into typical "boyish" pursuits like sports from a young age, and the online radicalisation stuff wasn't badly handled (if a bit surface level). I quite liked the stuff with the father regretting not supporting his son when … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/03/25 07:33 PM |
| 151 | Boys to get anti-misogyny lessons as TV drama Adolescence hits homeI'm all for teenagers getting an education on consent and empathy. That's very needed. When I was at school, sexual harassment was rampant on both sides. Back then the teachers pretended the problem didn't exist. Now they are only trying to deal with one side of the problem, bringing all issues back to "male violence against women and girls". | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/03/25 11:29 AM |
| 1 | If being subservient and obedient is a woman’s nature, why do so many old myths, religious texts and historic allegories actively portray women as disobedient and mischievous?"There is evidence that testosterone levels are higher in individuals with aggressive behavior, such as prisoners who have committed violent crimes. Several field studies have also shown that testosterone increases during the aggressive phases of sports games." "In mice, testosterone injections can lead to various physiological and behavioral changes, including increased aggression, changes in the gut microbiome, and alterations in physical activity and anxiety levels" Correlation, causation and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/25 07:15 AM |
| 9 | Unpopular opinion here. There isn't attack on masculinity. Because gender role expectations still exist for men in society.I personally think that the expectations he lays out for his kids are extremely healthy, and the "protector of the house" stuff was meant to say, "I'm not here, you are, so deal with it and/or call me." Only if it's not just the male children being taught this. It's fine if he's doing this for both sons and daughters. The idea that boys should be the "man of the house" when dad isn't around when they are not emotionally ready for that is a dangerous one. It's the same mentality that says boys an… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/03/25 10:26 PM |
| 2 | If being subservient and obedient is a woman’s nature, why do so many old myths, religious texts and historic allegories actively portray women as disobedient and mischievous?It makes males a lot more aggressive. Their emotions are much more likely to be experienced as anger than sadness. Link between testosterone and aggression is still heavily disputed among scientific circles. I do agree that it can heavily influence sexual behaviour though. However every society was gendered in the way that I stated above. Factually incorrect. Prehistoric societies were heavily reliant on female-led resource provision. Modern tribal societies are broadly egalitarian in child rear… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/25 10:15 PM |
| 2 | If being subservient and obedient is a woman’s nature, why do so many old myths, religious texts and historic allegories actively portray women as disobedient and mischievous?Watch videos of people taking cross-sex hormones. Women taking testosterone report losing their ability to cry and men taking estrogen report how much more emotionally vulnerable they become. Testosterone affects tear production, nothing more. That's a completely separate issue from the complete lack of emotional competence the "boys don't cry" mentality teaches. Men are also bigger and stronger, and it made sense to encourage them to fight and defend their families with all the virtues of chara… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/25 10:02 PM |
| 37 | If being subservient and obedient is a woman’s nature, why do so many old myths, religious texts and historic allegories actively portray women as disobedient and mischievous?Because it's transparently shite. Just like how men being "naturally" stoic and unemotional is transparently shite (if that was the case, why does it need to be beaten into them that boys don't cry?). Conditioning is one hell of a drug, and neurotypical humans are wired to be susceptible to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/25 04:33 PM |
| 5 | Submissive men and dominant womenMost men will never get the experience of being asked out by a woman, let alone a woman who is taller than him, stronger than him, etc. I don't think most of femdom is particularly interested in the woman being taller and stronger than the man. There are sub-kinks like "giantess worship" etc, but they're not the majority. Much like the trend of "feminisation" which is also a minor subvariant. Nothing objectively wrong with either of those, but the core tenet of femdom is that femininity is more … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/25 12:11 AM |
| 12 | Submissive men and dominant womenEh, I think there is definitely more of an interest than claimed. Genuinely the amount of women I've met who didn't realise they preferred being dominant until they tried it, or who were dominant but didn't realise they were because it wasn't the stereotype of femdom. You'd be surprised. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/25 10:54 PM |
| 36 | Submissive men and dominant womenHi! Submissive man here. I have always been submissive in a romantic context. Even when I first started thinking about girls when I was about 10-11, it was always the confident, authoritative ones who held my interest (not the mean/popular girls though. I have utter contempt for aggressive bullies whether male or female). You have to understand that if you want to get anywhere in life as a male, you'll need some degree of dominance, confidence and assertiveness (in addition to competence). Not s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/25 08:22 PM |
| 5 | Stephen Graham issues warning to parents after Netflix’s AdolescenceMy reading of it is that it's about starting the conversation so you can examine the why and how yourself. Or, more ambitiously and more probably, the hope was that we all examine it as a society. Does it even do a good job of that though? Don't get me wrong, it does some interesting stuff about the boy's relationship with his father (a flawed but ultimately decent man), how he wasn't into typical "boyish" pursuits like sports from a young age, and the online radicalisation stuff wasn't badly ha… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/03/25 06:55 PM |
| 87 | Stephen Graham issues warning to parents after Netflix’s AdolescenceI like Graham a lot. He's one of my favourite actors. But while there was some good and worthwhile stuff in this show, I don't think it gets anywhere near examining why and how young men fall into the "Incel" pipeline and are being radicalised. It was largely an examination of the symptom not the causes. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/25 01:38 PM |
| 11 | Saying that romantically unsuccessful men have bad personalities is ableistA lot of this is due to the socialization girls get when we’re growing up, there’s a lot more pressure to learn masking skills, figure out how to seem “normal,” and mirror other people’s facial expressions, tone of voice, etc, in order to fit in. Boys don’t usually get the same type of pressure and are generally allowed to just be a little bit different, people see autistic behavior and figure he’s going to be a successful engineer or something and will be fine. It’s much better for allowing the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/25 06:52 AM |
| 20 | Saying that romantically unsuccessful men have bad personalities is ableistUnfortunately our world is still screwed up enough that the traits of evil people (toxic masculine and toxic feminine) are still venerated from some degree to another. Not just romantically, but much of the human race will happily choose to befriend a charismatic person who is openly a bully, rapist, thief, harasser, life-destroyer over a flawed but fundamentally decent socially awkward person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/25 09:41 PM |
| 14 | This community needs to open up to the idea feminism to at least some degree.We can, just like we can call them a matriarchy or even gynocentric. After all, pro traditional gender role women (of which there are many in my family) can and will argue those roles are for the protection and comfort of women and allow them to exercise power in their own way. (To be clear I do not believe this, just pointing out that there's justification for calling it that). Just because we can call it any of those things doesn't mean we should, even if all those definitions have some techni… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/03/25 02:29 PM |
| 16 | This community needs to open up to the idea feminism to at least some degree.This is the system our modern families stem from, and while it's true feminists use this to imply we created it, we can spend our time arguing against that, not that it doesn't exist. I mean, my family heritage is Muslim, by far the most misogynistic and "patriarchal" ideology ever created. And in my family and most others from that background it was the women who were by far the most rigid enforcers and believers of those toxic gender roles. There is no patriarchy and there never has been. Only… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/03/25 01:46 PM |
| 29 | This community needs to open up to the idea feminism to at least some degree.We need to find some common ground with genuinely progressive feminists, and we need to work with them, because I've found that reactionary beliefs like "the patriarchy isn't real" have taken too much a hold in this community. It would be much more productive of us if we considered the situation, and understood that though it is true that the patriarchy doesn't have as much a hold on the western world as it used to, it still exists to a certain degree; for example, men being expected to be "stro… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/03/25 01:02 PM |
| 5 | CMV Women are overly dramatic about viable dating options.As a mature adult, I would not date or be in a relationship with someone who expected me to be provider. My girlfriend (who is older than me) earns vastly more than I do and is fully self sufficient, and intends to remain so if we ever have children. To be fair, I don't necessarily think the situation I experienced was specifically a "woman" problem. Most if not all of the people I knew from that world were from abusive backgrounds including me. And people raised by abusers tend to believe they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/25 05:20 PM |
| 18 | CMV Women are overly dramatic about viable dating options.Men are at their most willing to commit when they're least attractive; dealing with a dude who's sitting on decent SMV levels is like playing a psychological horror game. Is he cheating? Is he lying? Are these female friends of his just friends? etc. Is this really true though? Between the ages of 16-19 I was involved with some dangerous people and activities. In those circles there were lots of girls and young women who were as fucked up as we males were and very into "bad boys". At that time I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/25 01:32 PM |
| 28 | Scots sex abuse victim's harrowing email before he took his own lifeShocking example of male victims of abuse still being failed by the system. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/03/25 06:30 AM |
| 197 | While just 35% of Britons identify as a feminist, 83% believe men and women should be equal in every wayContrary to popular belief, believing men and women should be equal and should have equal rights does not make a person "a feminist". | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/03/25 06:57 PM |
| 6 | Q4M: Why aren't men as into Consensual Non-consent or raep fantasies as much as women?I do find it interesting that Western Culture's ideas of female beauty and sexuality still draw from Judeo-Christian-Islamic ideas of purity and innocence. The paradox of female sexual desirability being, in essence, desexualised. This manifests most extremely in things like Nuns and Hijabs being fetishised (the fantasy of a "pure" woman who is "unwrapped" just for you). But I'd also make the case that things like the removal of female body hair (a secondary sexual characteristic) is an example … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/25 06:37 AM |
| 89 | (UK) Girls will no longer be sent to youth prisons.Yes, but maybe look into why there are so many boys? This is it. If 98% of young offenders were female, there's no doubt there would be whole taskforces dedicated to identifying the root causes of the problem. But as always, boys are just presumed to be inherently bad and not deserving of a compassionate approach. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/03/25 07:45 PM |
| 59 | (UK) Girls will no longer be sent to youth prisons.Sorry to post right wing shitrag the telegraph here, but this article has practically all the old chestnuts. Hilariously, it even dared to acknowledge that the majority of those in Youth prisons also are victims of trauma, but as always the "unique needs" of a certain demographic must come first. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/03/25 01:23 PM |
| 5 | Its not women’s problem that men have low standards out of desperation.Some guys like big breasts. Some like small breasts. There isn't things much deeper than that. It's just what they like. Sure, but if you're making "big breasts" (or height etc) your hill to die on for a relationship, you could be missing out on someone whom you're otherwise attracted to and could be a great and fulfilling partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/25 06:44 AM |
| 9 | Its not women’s problem that men have low standards out of desperation.Yes, you largely can't change what you find attractive (and you definitely can't condition yourself to find attractive something that repulses you). But it doesn't hurt to examine why you're into a certain thing, and whether it's something you really need in a partner or whether it's something you can live without (so long as you find other things attractive about them). Why do women need a taller man to feel "small and feminine"? Why do men need a woman with smooth, shaved, hairless legs? Why d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/25 08:20 PM |
| 8 | Its not women’s problem that men have low standards out of desperation.Things like women preferring men to be taller so they can "feel small and feminine" or men preferring women to have smooth, hairless legs because.... (I don't actually know the reason for this because I don't like shaved legs) are absolutely shallow preferences. Not that having them or choosing to stick to them makes you a bad person, but it's possible to leave those things as fantasies while liking other things about a person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/25 07:30 PM |
| 9 | Its not women’s problem that men have low standards out of desperation.Obviously there has to be some level of attraction, but plenty of fantasies can be left as fantasies. I personally think women look attractive with long hair. Doesn't mean I can't find other things attractive about a woman who doesn't have long hair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/25 07:21 PM |
| 19 | Its not women’s problem that men have low standards out of desperation.Because preferences which are justified but ultimately shallow could make you miss out on a great partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/25 06:34 PM |
| 73 | Its not women’s problem that men have low standards out of desperation.Everyone should only have consensual sex and relationships with people they find desirable in regards to those things. However, it would be beneficial for all of us to examine our preferences and what deeper ingrained prejudices may have influenced them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/25 06:08 PM |
| 3 | Feminist having concerning advice to victims.In tribal communities where the women are bare-breasted all the time, the males treat them with the utmost respect. Meanwhile, hardline Islamic societies where the women must be veiled all the time have the highest sexual harassment rates in the world. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/03/25 01:47 PM |
| – | What's your impression of femdom?Were you interested in femdom since younger age or did you develop it later in life, if you don't mind my question? Hmmm, the ideas were not "fully formed" in my brain so to speak, but even when I first started thinking about girls when I was around 10-11, it was always the powerful, dominant, authoritative ones that held my interest. Probably because most of the women in my extended family as well as my teachers were all like this when I was very young. It likely left a bit of an imprint. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/25 07:08 AM |
| – | What's your impression of femdom?To be clear I don't disagree with anything you've said. I would make the point that I personally am not into things like feminisation. It's basically a niche within a niche just like "fin dom" (which is horrifying) The whole point of femdom is that femininity is powerful and dominant in its own right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/25 09:25 PM |
| – | What's your impression of femdom?Interesting, though fetish gear for submissive men does exist such as chastity cages etc. You're probably aware of the growing trend of "feminisation" in femdom, of the women putting the man in (often restrictive) feminine clothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/25 08:39 PM |
| – | What's your impression of femdom?That being said, I think the "Femdom" concept we see is completely different from the "Maledom" concept we see. In "Femdom" kink, the woman is still submitting to the man and prioritizing his interests. The Femdom is often expected to wear high heels, be fully shaved, full makeup, restrictive clothes like corsets, etc. Is that actually reality or just how Femdom is represented in Porn and mainstream media? Most of my intimate experiences have been "female dominant" ones, and none remotely resemb… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/25 08:18 PM |
| 3 | What's your impression of femdom?Why do you think men enjoy femdom? I'm curious (Femdom enjoyer here) Firstly the same reason women enjoy maledom, because being desired and being an object of desire is very gratifying. Just knowing that someone wants you to such an extreme level (in a safe context) warms the soul. Secondly, and I think this is more male/femdom specific, most men are taught (or learn the hard way) that getting anywhere in life as a male requires some level of assertiveness, confidence and dominance. I personally… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/25 07:20 PM |
| 2 | Q4A: "If men did more [of women's thing] they would get more of [women's results]" - why do you think they don't?It’s easy to test. Ask her to post her barefaced and pulled back hair on Instagram, followed by fully made up. Her current facebook profile picture is bare-faced, and has a similar amount of likes as her previous one, which was from a work event in which she was wearing her usual professional makeup look. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/25 04:11 PM |
| 1 | Q4A: "If men did more [of women's thing] they would get more of [women's results]" - why do you think they don't?They don't. They're usually a status symbol, primarily against other women rather than a signal to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/25 03:59 PM |
| 2 | Q4A: "If men did more [of women's thing] they would get more of [women's results]" - why do you think they don't?I know enough people who I've seen with/without makeup to know it doesn't make a person significantly more visually attractive. Being good at makeup can signal things like competence, creativity, attention to detail etc, which are all attractive traits, but even the best natural colour makeup in the world doesn't cover up noticeable facial/skin issues. I always tell my GF she doesn't look better or worse with/without makeup. She just looks different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/25 03:37 PM |
| 2 | Q4A: "If men did more [of women's thing] they would get more of [women's results]" - why do you think they don't?Neither nature nor a god (whatever floats your boat) has any vested interest in the quality or length of life beyond putting sperm near eggs. Well that's my point. Males can evolve features which make them more physically vulnerable, so long as it makes them more attractive to females. Females don't do this partially because they have different survival imperatives, but primarily because their form is innately desirable. You’d think wrong, since males aren’t in search of “the ideal mate”, males … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/25 03:20 PM |
| 4 | Q4A: "If men did more [of women's thing] they would get more of [women's results]" - why do you think they don't?Interesting point, and not one I necessarily disagree with. But despite the very different conditions, it's not enough for a universal either/or. Camouflage would still be a useful evolutionary feature for males to hide from predators or even sneak attack rivals. In fact it's been noted that some of these male features, like the male peacock's feathers (which make them very noticeable to predators) or the male human's beard (which could easily be grabbed and pulled by a predator or enemy), actua… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/25 02:53 PM |
| 5 | Q4A: "If men did more [of women's thing] they would get more of [women's results]" - why do you think they don't?It literally doesn't cover up imperfections. That's only ever been a marketing ploy. It's literally a bit of art to make your lips or eyelids or fingers or toes a colour of your choice, or maybe make your face smooth or shiny if that's what you like. Just because the current marketing behind makeup is evil doesn't mean the concept itself is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/25 02:27 PM |
| 5 | Q4A: "If men did more [of women's thing] they would get more of [women's results]" - why do you think they don't?Sure, but if they were that important to self defence, females would have evolved those features too as a basic survival imperative. The fact they are exclusively male features suggests their primary purpose is, as you say, to signal (male) genetic fitness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/25 02:09 PM |
| 5 | Q4A: "If men did more [of women's thing] they would get more of [women's results]" - why do you think they don't?Even the very best foundation in the world won't make a person look significantly younger. I do agree that these products should not be forced on people, and nobody should be made to feel like their natural faces are worse off without them. I'm the first to call out the vile psychological terrorism of the beauty/cosmetics industry. But even foundation doesn't do much more than make the skin look smoother and shinier. It isn't a miraculous fountain of youth. It's literally just face art. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/25 01:40 PM |
| 7 | Q4A: "If men did more [of women's thing] they would get more of [women's results]" - why do you think they don't?Not sure why you think makeup is masculine though, honest question In almost every animal species, it is the male that develops purely "aesthetic" features like the male peacock's feathers, the male lion's mane, the male deer's antlers, even the human male's beard and deep voice, that serve no evolutionary, reproductive or survival purpose. These serve the sole purpose of making males more distinctive and beautiful to females. They are, in effect, biological makeup. The female by comparison has … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/25 01:33 PM |
| 3 | Q4A: "If men did more [of women's thing] they would get more of [women's results]" - why do you think they don't?I won't dispute 1 or 4. 6 is an issue too though not one that is inherent to makeup as a concept. But makeup doesn't really make a person more attractive (or significantly younger). If anything a heavy makeup look is quite unattractive. Ultimately makeup is just various types of face (or nail) art which can be used in a variety of ways to develop an individual style. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/25 12:42 PM |
| 5 | Q4A: "If men did more [of women's thing] they would get more of [women's results]" - why do you think they don't?I don't think there's anything wrong with makeup as a concept. I think it allows for a great deal of individualism and creativity, so long as it is not used to pressure people into using it or making people feel unattractive without it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/25 12:30 PM |
| 23 | Q4A: "If men did more [of women's thing] they would get more of [women's results]" - why do you think they don't?I would say that many/most men are or should be doing most of this. However there are larger forces in play. Yes, men should be more involved fathers. That is beneficial to all involved. But (while maternity leave isn't great either) extended paternity leave might as well be a joke in most parts of the world. It is very much the norm for Dad to back at work within weeks if not days of a baby being born, which puts stress on both parents (mum recovering from pregnancy and being at home with the s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/25 11:46 AM |
| – | Men, stop whining about women not wanting to passionately f*ck youAt minimum a woman that did not care for herself would have a cavewoman appearance with hairy legs. You say that like it's a bad thing! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 06:41 PM |
| 6 | Ash Sarkar: How WOKE Politics is DESTROYING the Left!Yes. It's unfortunate that this place is constantly brigaded by both Right Wingers (espousing support for traditional gender role and/or capitalist ideologies which are fundamentally anti-male and harm men in many ways) and Men's Libbers (attempting to influence us towards a position that men are fundamentally privileged in all aspects of life and that we should solve Men's issues so we can be better allies to women). Both ideologies are harmful and we should be much more guarded against them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/25 08:55 AM |
| -1 | Ash Sarkar: How WOKE Politics is DESTROYING the Left!Marxism is good. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/25 07:48 AM |
| 10 | Ash Sarkar: How WOKE Politics is DESTROYING the Left!I mean, people's views are capable of changing? And the vibe is hardly shifting. If anything most people with similar views are doubling down and refusing any kind of introspection as to why the Right is ascendant. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/25 07:38 PM |
| 17 | Ash Sarkar: How WOKE Politics is DESTROYING the Left!Annoying clickbaity title, but Ash Sarkar offers an interesting perspective on how culture wars/identity politics stuff undermine solidarity and overall culture wars. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/02/25 07:12 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: Why are you not hypergamous?I mean, I don't go out of my way to be "hypergamous". However, I am very (or should I say only) attracted to powerful, intelligent, confident, dominant, charismatic and stylish women. Money and education are not a must for these traits, but the Venn Diagram is pretty fuckin large. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/25 05:29 PM |
| – | For those who have dated a girl from a different culture before dating someone from your culture. Can you please answer my question..I'm from a South Asian background but spent my entire life in a predominantly white working class area in the UK. I am "culturally" a lot closer to the latter than the former in terms of how I speak, the clothes I wear, "cultural values" etc. I am also ex-muslim and don't personally want a relationship built on "traditional values" which is what a large amount of British Asians still prefer/enjoy, and good for them. My GF is White British, but if I were single I'd be highly apprehensive about da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/25 04:38 PM |
| 116 | JD Vance: "Don't allow this broken culture to send you a message that you're a bad person because you're a man"The Right actively wants to keep men in the traditional position and acting according to the expectations which have caused untold harm to us over generations. The mainstream "Left" demonises men for carrying out these roles, while either failing to offer an alternative or just repackaging these expectations as a positive while still failing to address the issues. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/02/25 06:06 AM |
| 5 | TRP overplays how important a woman’s youth is in attracting a good/desirable partner"Youth" is a turn off to be honest. I'm only late 20s (my GF is mid 30s) and don't find anything attractive about younger women who are usually immature, have next to no career/lifestyle prospects, are "still figuring things out", are usually undecisive, usually unstylish, and often still look like teenage girls (which would kill any potential attraction stone dead). 30+ women are far superior by every available metric. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/25 05:34 AM |
| 59 | What are your honest thoughts on "Patriarchy"?None of your options describe my view, which is that what is called "patriarchy" (implying that it was created by men for the benefit of men) is more accurately an oppressive social contract imposed by ruling classes (both male and female) over centuries in order to keep the lower classes toiling to produce wealth and resources and pump out the next generation to do the same. Both men and women had benefits and burdens from this system. The issue is that feminism has (rightfully) eliminated (mos… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/02/25 06:52 PM |
| 2 | Does being sweet or childish with girls make you less sexually attractive?I can be very silly sometimes (though balance that with competence in other areas). My girlfriend finds my silly ways rather endearing. It's actually quite impressive how many times she asks me "Why didn't you do X instead?" and (only now realising I could've done that because she mentioned it) I reply "because that would make too much sense". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/25 06:48 AM |
| 30 | Why is it shallow for a woman to have income standards in a partner if she wants children/ a familyMen interested in building something together found my degree, my career, and my debt free life very attractive on top of the ass. Redpill hates to admit this but competence and having one's life put together are attractive traits regardless of gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/25 04:53 AM |
| 8 | What’s up with “attractive men are bad and not interested in monogamy, unattractive men are good and loyal?”I've never experienced this personally. It's not a shocker that people tend to want to date attractive people. However, I've experienced a lot of guys (including ones who are objectively decent looking) bemoaning why guys who aren't much better looking than themselves but are blatant bullies, cheaters, abusers and misogynists seem to have zero problem attracting women while they barely get a coffee date (although this does go both ways). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/25 06:39 PM |
| 0 | Do you ever get tired of compliments?Fair. I don't support or condone cold approaching (and wouldn't anyway as I have a GF) but I always prefer to compliment people (both women and men) over aesthetic/fashion choices rather than looks alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/25 12:27 PM |
| 2 | Do you ever get tired of compliments?What if it's something not related to pure "beauty", like your bag, shoes, coat etc? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/25 12:18 PM |
| 13 | Can we return the sub to leftist male advocacy?I was with you until this line. Men hurt men and men sometimes take that hurt and push it on to women or other men. It's a cycle of suck that would be called cliche in a movie about domestic abuse. Do women not also hurt both men and women? Both individually and also societally in terms of perpetuating harmful gender roles and gender stereotypes? Why is this cycle (which I agree exists and is harmful) started by "men hurting men" which then results in this being "pushed onto women and other men"… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/25 08:41 AM |
| 7 | Q4M: where is the sympathy for the loneliness of older single women?I sympathise (empathise?) with her on a human level. Unless you're asexual or aromantic, being single is pretty shitty even with the plus points it brings you, and there is a huge stigma in society for admitting that. But with all due respect, she is far from physically unattractive. She could go to a moderately busy bar/pub in literally any populous town in casual clothes and would have no trouble attracting decent or even good looking guys. Yes, some of them may be creeps (which is bad) and ot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/25 08:06 AM |
| 0 | A lot of the redpill doesn’t make sense.As dating and relationship options, 30+ year old women are vastly superior to 18-25 year olds in pretty much every metric. Looks, lifestyle, career, personality, fashion, intellect, sexual chemistry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/25 08:28 PM |
| 0 | How much is a decent price for an engagement ring?My GF and I are both big gift givers and have given each other numerous presents. Some expensive, others very cheap, but always thoughtful, meaningful things. If we were to get married (which isn't something either of us particularly cares about), we'll probably skip the engagement ring entirely. It's just not important to her, and is something I actively oppose. It's tradition for the sake of tradition, materialistic, and arguably both misandric and misogynistic in its connotations. I'm more li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/25 06:00 AM |
| 1 | You can't have "true equality" if you hate caring at men's feelings.My GF's mum often says that when she and GF's dad (now RIP) got together, she was more than happy to split or take turns paying. She was always an independent woman (just like my GF) but even among her friends this was a normal thing. When my GF and her sister were little they both made the effort with childcare and household tasks. And they out-earned each other during different times in their relationship. GF's dad was an emotional man and her mum loved that about him. They supported each othe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/25 05:49 PM |
| 1 | For women that treat dating transactionally, do you think you are partially responsible for the commodification of sex and dating?The sex occurs because we're both interested in sex. It's separate from the date activity. Why then do you expect him to pay? (Not judging BTW just trying to learn) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/25 05:39 AM |
| 7 | You can't have "true equality" if you hate caring at men's feelings.Maybe younger women, Gen Z & Alpha are against male tears. My girlfriend's mum (in her sixties) notes that the most recent generation of adult women are if anything much more traditional than her generation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/25 04:26 AM |
| 41 | Conformity, masculinity and resentment"Positive masculinity" is just the same conformity but framed in a positive light. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/02/25 07:07 PM |
| 4 | Are you woried about feminism?I don't particularly like the ideology and behaviour of modern feminism though I would work with feminists a million times over before I support right wing shithousery, and I do firmly believe in gender equality and egalitarianism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 01:34 PM |
| – | Most women weren't drawn to their boyfriends or husbands BECAUSe of their looks. That is why most women don't list attractiveness as the most important thing in a partner.I mean, I started thinking about girls when I was what, 11? 12? And it took very little time to realise that I needed to do things like go to the gym and have a good haircut if I wanted girls to like me. It was all the other hoops that you have to jump through that was the hard part. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 01:30 PM |
| – | Speaking out of horses mouth: Men in real life admitted that FDS was rightDon't have skin in the game about waiting for sex. That's very dependent on individual circumstances. But if I went on a date with someone who wanted to "Make me invest time and money and make me pay for dates if she wants to figure out if he is serious about her" I wouldn't be seeing her again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 09:41 AM |
| 1 | What are The weirdest dating preferences that you've heard from any gender ?Weirdest preference I've ever seen from men is men who want disagreeable bitchy women who don't follow conventional beauty standards like shaving her legs. Eh... I like women who don't shave because I think it looks better. It's a shame that society has made this into "disagreeable and bitchy". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 05:54 AM |
| 5 | Madonna/Whore: the male dual mating strategy, and how women can protect themselves from male resentmentI mean, there are millions of men who fetishise things like nuns or hijabs because of those modesty/purity connotations, so I'd make the case that the societal obsession with female innocence and purity goes beyond the M/W complex. Hell, even with women who act (and dress) promiscuous, the expectation will still be for the man to come to her, start the conversation in the bar, offer her to dance, initiate a kiss etc. The idea is that sex is still something that is done to her rather than somethi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 05:14 AM |
| 2 | Trump has basically made it impossible to be anti-DEI policies without sounding like a racist lunaticI'm in the UK where we currently have a lacklustre "Centre Left" (in reality Centre Right given the country's overton window) government which has done little to fix the country after fourteen years of Right Wing mismanagement and remains subservient to the same failed Rightist economic ideology that got us into this mess to begin with. Hilariously, the media has still managed to brand them Far Left Extremists despite them capitulating to the Right on almost every issue. The combination of the g… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/02/25 05:35 AM |
| 1 | Trump has basically made it impossible to be anti-DEI policies without sounding like a racist lunaticNah the Far Left is not the same, and it is the only thing offering an alternative to the mess the Right and Centre have made of the West over the last few decades. Socialism or Barbarism. Only problem is the Left has been co-opted, so instead of fighting the Class War, the most vocal people on the Left are middle class do-gooders who want to feel good about themselves and shed their privilege by shitting on white people or men (or better still white men) at every opportunity, despite many of th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/02/25 05:11 AM |
| 5 | My father talked some sense to me and now I can accept that the gender war is unavoidableBut most of the "other evidence" including OP's claims come from personal anecdotes too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/25 07:35 PM |
| 0 | What does the blue pill get right and what wrong?Not a surprise unfortunately. Leg shaving remains depressingly popular in the Western World. Where I'm from 99% of women shave their legs. In my long life, I've only met a grand total of two women who didn't shave and displayed their legs (three if you're counting my GF, though she usually prefers to shave but lets them grow as a special treat sometimes). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/25 07:30 PM |
| 3 | My father talked some sense to me and now I can accept that the gender war is unavoidableWhat can I say? Immoral people do immoral things regardless of gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/25 07:26 PM |
| 4 | My father talked some sense to me and now I can accept that the gender war is unavoidableWhy would being independent correlate with being more likely to cheat? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/25 07:24 PM |
| 2 | What does the blue pill get right and what wrong?Fair enough. For what it's worth, there are plenty of men out there who simply don't care about such things, as well as others like myself who prefer the more natural look. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/25 07:21 PM |
| 3 | What does the blue pill get right and what wrong?Hadn't shaved my legs Was this because you thought it would be a turn off for the (presumed) male in question or because you just didn't like the idea for another reason? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/25 07:16 PM |
| 8 | My father talked some sense to me and now I can accept that the gender war is unavoidableEh, what are you on about? My GF was direct and straightforward with her interest in me, was extremely sexually aggressive from the early stages, and (while we both made an effort) never made me feel like I had to jump through hoops or pass any shit tests. And it is the best relationship I've ever had. And before you ask, I am under 6 foot, have an average looking face, and she earns 3-4x as much as me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/25 07:13 PM |
| 5 | Feminists' misandry should be called outBecause according to her, men are primarily motivated by a desire for sex from essentially the moment they hit puberty, so they aren’t hurt by sexual assault in the same sense as their female counterparts. Obligatory... | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/01/25 09:17 AM |
| 4 | How are young men being disenfranchised?Most don't. Many do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/25 05:44 PM |
| 4 | How are young men being disenfranchised?As I said, it's not anywhere near most women, and certainly not my GF. But a great many will prefer confident, stoic, dominant, unemotional men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/25 05:41 PM |
| 13 | How are young men being disenfranchised?The best explanation is that over the last 100 years, feminism has (rightfully) eliminated (or at least made optional) most gendered expectations for women while men's have mostly stayed the same. Many (but not most) women still want traditional men or at least ones who do not deviate too far from the traditional ideal (the reverse is also true, but nowhere near the same extent). This, combined with the decline in community social spaces, ever-increasing cost of living and unhealthy work-life ba… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/25 05:09 PM |
| 3 | Women Have Become Much More Commitment Phobic Now that Social Media and Dating Apps ExistAnd same for women. The whole society is encouraging them to be more like men: brash, rude, demanding, aggressive, focused on their career, being boss bitches, taking no shit from no stinking men, being independent and fine by themselves. And shaming them for being women, being feminine, girly, soft, wanting and appreciating men, etc. What if some men like me are exclusively attracted to this kind of woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/25 07:02 AM |
| 9 | Why do you guys want to be providers ?I provide for her desires in the bedroom, occasionally whip up a lovely meal for her, go half with her on dates, and once in a while surprise her with nice gifts. No interest in anything beyond that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/25 06:12 AM |
| 1 | Q4W. Rich women's dating preferencePerhaps, though I know many people who are exclusively attracted to those within their own race/culture, as well as those who are attracted to personality traits similar to themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 07:34 PM |
| 1 | Q4W. Rich women's dating preferenceSorry for your loss. But yes, preferences are complex, some biological, others influenced in early childhood, others still influenced by experience during puberty etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 07:12 PM |
| 1 | Q4W. Rich women's dating preferenceAlthough interesting that despite having tall mum/short dad, your preference is still for taller. Not a bad thing just an observation. One friend of mine, the first boy she had a crush on when she was like 10/11 was shorter than her. Even though that crush wasn't because he was short, 30 years later she still finds herself preferring short men. Fascinating how our attractions are influenced. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Q4W. Rich women's dating preference(Shrugs) I think it's cute actually. Slim, tall and graceful with smaller but stocky/powerful looking. Arguably cuter than the alternative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 06:26 PM |
| 1 | Q4W. Rich women's dating preferenceMy mum is taller than my Dad, and I think it looks odd. Why is this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 06:20 PM |
| 1 | Q4W. Rich women's dating preferenceWhat is crazy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 10:53 AM |
| 5 | Q4W. Rich women's dating preferenceMy GF (born lower-middle class, now director-level corporate position well into six figures) wants a man who is both physically powerful (so fitness is very important) and well-groomed/appearance focused (She expects me to be clean shaven at all times), who is also an attentive and submissive lover focused on making her cum (fortunately I do most of this, except the well-groomed part, which I make an effort with but isn't always easy for a hairy wolf man like me). She doesn't care about how much… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 06:53 AM |
| 2 | The "If she did it with an ex, she should do it with me" rule applies to peggingthe kind of sexually dominant woman they want is hard to come by. Truly sexually dominant women are vastly more common than theorised (possibly a similar level to submissive women) just that 1) the usual dynamics mean they won't always be attracted/interested to every submissive man, and 2) Many if not most aren't that interested in specific fantasies like pegging, latexed dominatrix etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 04:51 AM |
| – | Q4W: Do you want a submissive man, or do you want to submit to your man?Does he also enjoy this or does he have submissive desires that aren't being fulfilled? (not being accusatory here just trying to understand) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/25 06:28 AM |
| – | Q4W: Do you want a submissive man, or do you want to submit to your man?In the sense that if he brings out your submissive side, but he himself is also submissive, who would ultimately make the final decisions on anything? I am submissive, and couldn't be in a relationship with someone who was also submissive, because we'd starve to death trying to decide what to have for dinner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/25 04:30 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do you want a submissive man, or do you want to submit to your man?But if this man was a true, pure submissive, wouldn't the entire relationship then grind to a halt as you're both trying to cede control to the other party? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/25 09:14 AM |
| 49 | Q4M: Would you continue seeing an attractive woman if you found she was previously battered? Why or why not?Why the F would someone being a VICTIM of a abuse make me not want to date them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/25 04:24 AM |
| 61 | When people say men’s issues are “mental health,” what exactly do men need to get mentally healthy that’s different from what women need?A large chunk of men were and are taught to repress and hold in emotions from the moment they can walk and talk. That shit takes years if not lifetimes to decondition from. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/25 05:05 PM |
| 6 | Getting good sex is immensely beneficial for your mental health and sometimes getting into an exciting relationship CAN solve your mental health strugglesI don't think "good sex" alone is enough to be helpful with mental health (though it is vastly preferable to being entirely single). From the ages of 16-19, I was involved with dangerous and loathsome people and activities. Many of the women there were promiscuous. However, those women wanted me for nothing except sex. Like me, most of those women came from abusive backgrounds. They didn't want someone like me who would readily make an effort, who wanted to cook for them, take them on genuinely … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/25 08:00 AM |
| 51 | Getting good sex is immensely beneficial for your mental health and sometimes getting into an exciting relationship CAN solve your mental health strugglesIt's the sort of thing that people who have never been perpetually single can't comprehend. Unless you are aromantic, intimate connection (beyond sex by itself, which can be equally unfulfilling) is highly important to a healthy mindset and lack of it can cause mental health struggles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/25 07:46 AM |
| 1 | Why are you a red piller ?Genuine good-faith question here: What if some folk aren't attracted to what RedPill says they're supposed to be? Like, if RedPill says you should be attracted to X because of male/female nature, but a person finds themselves attracted to behaviours, appearances, body types, clothing styles that are a complete 180 on that, should such people just be considered outliers or would that give you reason to doubt RedPill (even if it has otherwise worked for you)? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 07:13 AM |
| 1 | Why are you a red piller ?RedPill is the gender equivalent of Victorian "scientific racism", a way to ascribe a scientific basis to Judeo-Christian-Islamic gender roles and portray them as the default state of human behaviour. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 06:37 AM |
| 2 | Modern feminism has caused damage to the healthy romantic dynamic between men and women.I never said it was impossible. I actually think it's probably a worthwhile thing to do, certainly more so than going to your local sweaty boozy club. I'm saying that generally a salsa dancing club isn't going to be the first thought in a young adult in 2025's mind about a place to go with friends or meet a potential partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/25 06:47 AM |
| 3 | Modern feminism has caused damage to the healthy romantic dynamic between men and women.True but those things aren't really "advertised" as activities. Joining a salsa club is more like joining a sports team IE something you'd do if you had an existing interest, rather than something "everyone does" like young people going clubbing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/25 06:28 AM |
| 20 | Modern feminism has caused damage to the healthy romantic dynamic between men and women.I think there's an argument to be made that that was a cold approach back then. For example my girlfriend's grandparents met at a community dance hall back when such places could be used to talk to and get to know each other. In those times it was relatively easy to introduce yourself to someone and have an actual conversation. The equivalent to that nowadays is a packed nightclub which stinks of sweat, is pitch black so you can barely see the person, with pulsing music so loud you can't even sp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/25 05:37 AM |
| 0 | Provide and protectK | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/25 04:50 AM |
| 3 | CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural.Nature can kneel at the stilettos of my vastly higher earning than me GF and wait in line for when I'm done licking her hairy legs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/25 08:47 PM |
| 16 | Provide and protectProvide - Beyond gifts, I don't provide her anything, and she does not want or need me to. I fulfil other needs of hers but we don't need to go into that. Protect - I mean, I guess? If she was being harassed or otherwise in danger I would step in. I've half jokingly tried to do the "a good man walks on the traffic side" meme but she normally tells me to fuck off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/25 06:01 PM |
| – | Money & status is outdated advice in 2025Absolutely correct. As long as you aren't clearly going to be a financial drain on her, it's basically a non-issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/24 03:37 PM |
| 8 | Men and women are not the same that is okay.Male infants prefer wheeled objects like trucks as toys whereas female infants prefer plush objects like dolls as toys This difference in toy preference is innate, and even observed in other species. I.e it is biological/hormonal and not taught. If you actually looked at those baby/monkey studies, you'd see that the results were varied (in one study the males displayed a preference while females did not, in another the females displayed a preference while the males did not, in another both gravi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/24 05:53 AM |
| 1 | Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates.I don't disagree with anything you've said here. Though I would point out that our "system" insofar as we have one is a little more complicated. If we're going for a regular meal at a standard high street restaurant (which she doesnt mind doing), we'll usually split it. If she wants us to go to a high end place she doesn't have a problem covering both of us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 10:17 PM |
| 1 | Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates.Fair enough. I guess for her she's after a particular kind of aesthetic regardless of the brand, price or indeed the fabric | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 05:48 PM |
| 1 | Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates.My GF's wardrobe is a healthy mix of luxurious fashions (Casadei and Valentino heels etc), mid-tier high street brands (most of her coats and dresses), and budget items (A couple of Primark shirts/blouses). The whole point is that it's possible to be presentable and "high maintenance" on a budget if you know what you're doing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 04:33 PM |
| 3 | Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates.We're not married (I just call her "the missus") and we're not sure either of us want to be. But if/when we move in together in future we will likely share unless for items specifically for ourselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 03:18 PM |
| – | Expecting for men to pay for your first date sets a bad precedent for the relationshipBecause I was simping hard for someone and love bombing accidentally and making myself too available. I dont care what anyone says - men love some sort of chase. I definitely don't agree with love bombing etc. But I don't think men (or at least me) all love or even want any kind of chase. With me and my girlfriend neither of us lovebombed, but once compatibility beyond the initial attraction became clear we both made it easy for each other rather than giving each other hoops to jump through. Per… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 02:34 PM |
| -1 | Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates.(Shrugs) As long as it looks presentable and put together it does the job. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 02:31 PM |
| 9 | Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates.I'm just interested to know what your exact criticisms are... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 01:09 PM |
| 6 | Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates.I have a good career which is enjoyable and well paid, am about to start a new job which will pay me even more, I can afford to spend money on things I want and like to do, I have a girlfriend to whom I have an intense mutual attraction, earns 3-4x as much as me and doesn't expect a penny from me, and who is very sexually compatible with me. If I didn't have a sick mother with kidney issues, I'd pretty much be on top of the world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 12:53 PM |
| 8 | Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates.I pity you. I'm in the best place I've ever been in life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 12:45 PM |
| -1 | Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates.Its not about being smart. Its about being aesthetically pleasing and putting in the effort to do so. A smart/presentable appearance is aesthetically pleasing and shows the person (male or female) is making the effort regardless of whether they have spent a lot of money. It's an art that has been lost to most of us in recent years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 12:44 PM |
| 8 | Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates.Been awake since 4am. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 12:42 PM |
| 6 | Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates.Never had a complaint so far, so erm, damn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 12:37 PM |
| -3 | Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates.Not if you know how to do it. A basic smart shirt and trousers for less than £50 at Primark will look smarter than the aforementioned £700 tracksuit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 12:35 PM |
| -4 | Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates.High maintenance feminine women... ...are far more likely to want you to pay for dinners Depends which ones you mean. If you're talking the influencer types who go to "brunch" in a £700 gucci tracksuit (purchased on Klarna) that looks incredibly ugly and radiates "money, but no class", you're absolutely correct. For them the whole thing is posing in places/clothes they can't afford and expecting a man to pay for it in exchange for her "divine femininity". If you're talking an actual "high femme"… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 12:23 PM |
| 18 | Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates.(Shrugs) My missus is a 10/10 to me and insists on either splitting or paying for anything she specifically wants. It's fucking amazing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 11:23 AM |
| – | Expecting for men to pay for your first date sets a bad precedent for the relationshipProper etiquette from who? What? Where? Way I see it, if the person being asked doesn't feel there is a present (or potential) attraction, and have an interest in investigating further relationship compatibility, the response will and should be "No, thank you". If the person has said yes, they are there for the same reason as the other, with no investment on either side, so both should be willing to split an (inexpensive) amount of money to investigate a potential relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 08:49 PM |
| 5 | Expecting for men to pay for your first date sets a bad precedent for the relationshipThis is the most intelligent comment ever written on PPD. Well done. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 05:13 PM |
| 2 | Expecting for men to pay for your first date sets a bad precedent for the relationshipSure, but my idea of a "super hot" woman is very different from the conventional ideal. I may act the way you've described towards that person (of which my girlfriend is one) but someone conventionally attractive isn't that interesting to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 04:13 PM |
| 3 | Expecting for men to pay for your first date sets a bad precedent for the relationshipPerhaps, but who decides what actually is the more attractive partner? They could be attracted to each other for different reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 03:43 PM |
| 5 | Expecting for men to pay for your first date sets a bad precedent for the relationshipI agree with the first and would never date such a person. Not sure about the second. Fundamentally there should be some level of mutual attraction if both of them have agreed to come to the date regardless of who is more conventionally attractive of the two. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 03:32 PM |
| 22 | Expecting for men to pay for your first date sets a bad precedent for the relationshipI would expect a first date (which is usually coffee or an inexpensive activity like bowling/ping pong/pool etc) to be split. At that point there is no investment from either party and the whole intention is to investigate attraction and personality/lifestyle compatibility. I wouldn't pursue a relationship with someone who didn't split. Regardless of who did the asking, both parties chose to attend the event by their own free will. If both wanted to be there then they both should split. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 01:43 PM |
| 3 | Are you Men’s Rights or Men’s Liberation?Altruism doesn't have an evolutionary psychology. Neither does resilience and perseverance. These are learned behaviours that are taught either by parents or by the realities of survival. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/12/24 08:36 AM |
| 1 | Let's talk about age gap relationships, specifically when the woman is the younger party.True, although my GF has had pushback from her "friends"/colleagues who are mostly White English people, though it's nowhere near as frequent or as strong as what I get. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/24 08:00 AM |
| 1 | Let's talk about age gap relationships, specifically when the woman is the younger party.I've got no love for the religion if that's what you're implying? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/24 07:50 AM |
| 40 | If Cinderella is the fairytale of a low SMV woman capturing a top 20% man. Then what is male equivalent fairytale for men's struggles?Probably most male-protagonist fiction focused on a hero (Superman, Spiderman etc) who is insanely powerful physically, but their "secret identity" is nerdy and socially awkward (while still being conventionally attractive) and struggles to declare his feelings to a "girl-next-door" who is usually popular, charismatic and confident. Superhero movies are basically a genderflipped Cinderella tale. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/24 07:10 AM |
| 23 | Are you Men’s Rights or Men’s Liberation?I think a lot of Menslibbers end up migrating here. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/12/24 06:39 AM |
| 3 | Let's talk about age gap relationships, specifically when the woman is the younger party.Nah if anything I look older than her (I've always looked older than I am and had a full beard at 13). Strangers don't notice anything The crap is from people who know us. People like my South Asian Muslim family who think the man should be older in order to "take care" of the woman. As well as some of her "friends" (more acquaintances from work who she doesn't particularly like) who think it's funny to gossip about her relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/24 06:29 AM |
| 7 | Are you Men’s Rights or Men’s Liberation?Empathy and altruism are universal human traits. Do boys not grow up to become men who are doctors, nurses, firefighters, rescuers whose job is to help others? Arguably dedication to personal goals are a universal trait too. Work ethic and perseverance are things all of us should be taught. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/12/24 06:25 AM |
| 12 | Are you Men’s Rights or Men’s Liberation?I mean, it's not hard to say that girls can be what they want, boys can be what they want, so long as whatever they're doing isn't hurting anyone else, and they are taught the importance of empathy and helping others. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/12/24 10:24 PM |
| 7 | Are you Men’s Rights or Men’s Liberation?The only expectation the next generation need is to be nothing more and nothing less than decent human beings. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/12/24 10:13 PM |
| 23 | Are you Men’s Rights or Men’s Liberation?Neither. I don't subscribe to the Mens Lib framework. No point doing male advocacy if they're going to pretend that women have it worse on every metric and sticking your fingers in your ears whenever the very concept of women or feminism harming men comes up. It is reductive, pointless, and ultimately serves only to keep dividing men and women from what is fundamentally the same fight. And I definitely don't subscribe to your MRA idea. I had a double whammy of traditional masculinity as a kid (b… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/12/24 09:58 PM |
| 5 | Let's talk about age gap relationships, specifically when the woman is the younger party.Not significantly older no. If you didn't know us you probably wouldn't realise the age gap. But quite a few "acquaintances" have said various annoying things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/24 07:31 PM |
| 45 | Let's talk about age gap relationships, specifically when the woman is the younger party.My GF is older than me (by slightly under a decade) and we get much more societal pushback than older male/younger female relationships with age gaps of 15-120 years or even more. Edit:20 years not 120 ha ha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/24 01:34 PM |
| – | Q4W: was there a point to feminism raising awareness about female beauty standards?I have no skin in this game either way (beyond the fact I think everyone should be allowed to dress and present themselves how they want so long as nobody is getting hurt). But the conventional/societal idea of female beauty isn't particularly attractive to me so I wish there was more pushback against it for entirely selfish reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/24 12:09 PM |
| 1 | I'm sick of the trope "Mothers love their sons and raise their daughters"It was definitely noticeable where I grew up (South Asian family with traditional values, raised in a White working class area where men were MEN). Not as noticeable as the pressure put on boys, but definitely present. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/12/24 08:56 AM |
| 2 | I'm sick of the trope "Mothers love their sons and raise their daughters"If this was just how kids are, there wouldn't be so many parents and teacher physically and psychologically traumatising their boys into conforming to traditional masculinity | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/12/24 06:37 AM |
| 2 | Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive.Men have different types too. Despite the obsessive hatred many men on here seem to have for overweight women, there are entire OF libraries to cater to the men that do like them. Some men like a "cute" neotenous type. Others like a more mature elegant type. Some want a traditionally feminine submissive, others like me want someone powerful and dominant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/24 07:39 PM |
| 5 | Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive.Sure, but I think different niches/aesthetics can be attractive to different people. Some women love a big hairy bearded powerlifter type bloke. Others prefer a youthful, clean-shaven, "pretty" Harry Styles/Justin Bieber/Timothee Chalamet type. Others still prefer a dark vampire type like Adam Driver. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/24 07:14 PM |
| 5 | Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive.I mean, plenty of ordinary men who do look like those men are in relationships, so there's obviously a niche that they're appealing to. Like how some women love beards, while others like my GF hate them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/24 06:52 PM |
| 3 | Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive.I know the feeling. I was a teenager a decade ago and was already very hairy by age 12-13, and all the girls thought my beard and hairy back were disgusting. The "popular" girls used to play that blindfold touch game with my beard and shriek about how vile it was haha. Now I'm proud to be a hairy wolf man and love hairy wolf women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/24 06:49 PM |
| 8 | Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive.It is insane that people do not realise how much culture, fashion, trends, media influence what we consider attractive. An advertising campaign in the 20th Century aimed at middle class women convinced them that removing their armpit and leg hair was a fashionable status symbol. Now in 2024 99% of women in the Western World perpetuate this fad. And the men, who have spent their entire lives never seeing a woman with hair on their legs and armpits, insist that the natural female form is masculine… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/24 06:17 PM |
| – | What is a woman's ideal man?Like would it be cool if he was taller than me in heels? A woman being shorter than me without heels but taller with them is a god-tier turn on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/24 07:04 AM |
| 2 | Liberal/Progressive women do not actually want feminine men.Sounds a lot like my GF and I... minus the confidence part anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/24 12:07 PM |
| 3 | I'm sick of the trope "Mothers love their sons and raise their daughters"My girlfriend is a very successful self-sufficient woman who finds today's feminist victimhood mentality disgusting and degrading to women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/12/24 09:31 AM |
| 4 | I'm sick of the trope "Mothers love their sons and raise their daughters"I'd argue that males/females are generally taught a different type of empathy. Females are taught to be caring and nurturing towards a person in need, give them a friendly tap on the shoulder, sit them down, reflect and express the emotion they are feeling to validate it, give them a hug, cry with them. Males are taught to show understanding of what the person is going through, acknowledge that it is terrible, but not display any feeling of the emotion themselves (even if they are feeling it) an… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/12/24 09:28 AM |
| 8 | Liberal/Progressive women do not actually want feminine men.Guys that look like Styles (or Justin Bieber, Tom Holland, Timothee Chalamet) have no trouble with women either in day to day life. Styles isn't a bad singer but the main reason he is so popular and "high status" is his good looks and aesthetic which are adored by teenage girls and young women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/24 07:43 AM |
| 1 | Liberal/Progressive women do not actually want feminine men.Styles in that outfit probably attracts more women than me and all the biggest, strongest powerlifter type blokes at my gym put together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/24 07:21 AM |
| 8 | I'm sick of the trope "Mothers love their sons and raise their daughters"Talking in broad strokes of course. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/12/24 06:56 AM |
| 12 | I'm sick of the trope "Mothers love their sons and raise their daughters"To be clear I don't disagree with anything you've said here. I'm just pointing out the worst aspects of being born a boy/girl respectively in the Western World. I don't doubt that many parents are better than this, or that feminism has (rightfully) reduced much of this for girls (while largely keeping things the same for boys). The very best parents are those who do not force their children into rigid gender roles. Fundamentally all children need to be taught both resilience and healthy emotiona… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/12/24 09:51 PM |
| 67 | I'm sick of the trope "Mothers love their sons and raise their daughters"Being born a boy or a girl is very much a case of "choose your poison". Born a boy? Your natural human emotions will be repressed by adults from the moment you can walk and talk. Being violently bullied (by either other boys or girls) will be seen as a perfectly normal and acceptable part of being a boy. Every day you get older the world becomes less affectionate and caring towards you. Your teachers will shout at you for playing with "girl" toys. Society and the media broadcast that every probl… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/12/24 08:50 PM |
| 10 | Men understand the concept of aggression significantly better than women.Agree with every word. I did a bit of boxing as a teenager, and spent ages 16-19 involved with dangerous people and activities and had more than my share of punch ups, and eventually ended up in prison by age 19 for a more serious thing. I haven't been in a fight since then, and it would take something cataclysmic (as in, my life or that of someone close to me is in imminent danger) to make me even think of throwing a punch now. Getting into a fight could result in severe/permanent injuries to m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/24 02:04 PM |
| 6 | Q4W: If a man is unwilling to get into a physical fight for you, is he not a real man to you ?You said everything I would like to say on this topic. Thank you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/24 10:27 AM |
| 3 | Men understand the concept of aggression significantly better than women.The last time I tried to prevent a woman being harassed I had the harasser's boys threatening to stab me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/24 10:17 AM |
| 26 | Men understand the concept of aggression significantly better than women.Just what I was thinking. The drunk guy sounds like a pretty despicable creep, but from my experience, these kind of people are much more likely to escalate into outright violence when a man gets involved. He might be a drunk idiot but you don't know if he's going to pull out a weapon, or is a pro boxer, or if his boys are round the corner ready to beat you half to death. Which isn't to say it is safe for women either. It's clear from the man's behaviour that it was not, just that these macho ty… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/24 09:44 AM |
| 4 | Q4W: If a man is unwilling to get into a physical fight for you, is he not a real man to you ?Fair enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/24 09:23 AM |
| 3 | Q4A: What are you looking for in a partner?Fully financially self sufficient. Sexually dominant. Not religious or traditional. Not right wing. Not emotionally closed off. Not racist, sexist (to either gender), homophobic or transphobic. Smart/Stylish (or at least have more of a unique personal style than the generic jeans/tshirt/trainers that most people wear nowadays) Doesn't shave legs (highly preferred but so rare it would be illogical to make it a dealbreaker) Someone who sees the deeper aspects of society and the world and can hold … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/24 09:14 AM |
| 3 | Q4W: If a man is unwilling to get into a physical fight for you, is he not a real man to you ?I think (hope?) the person above is saying you're one of the few people who is being sane and rational about this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/24 09:02 AM |
| 24 | The only way for high-quality, high-expectation women to have a satisfactory romantic life is to proactively seek men they like (barring luck)It is rare for the vast majority of women to approach men, even ones they are attracted to. This could be biology, socialisation, or a combination of both, but either way, women (especially the ones you describe who have near-limitless options) will rarely go after a man they are attracted to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 06:55 PM |
| 3 | How come feminsm treats men as having easy cushy lives when they are victims of the patriarchy too?Feminism the ideology isn't interested in overall equality and egalitarianism. It specifically seeks to secure the most advantages for those it fights for. It has always fought to liberate women from the disadvantages of their gender role (while keeping the good stuff like "women/children first") while being at best ambivalent or at worst actively in favour of men keeping theirs (for example, the white feather campaign). Plenty of the early feminists were allied with eugenicists and racists and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 02:26 PM |
| 2 | When single... Did/Do you care about what the opposite sex finds attractive?I dunno, seeing women display a high level of skill at their particular field is definitely a physical turn on, even more so if there is a clear confidence and authority there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/24 06:55 PM |
| 5 | When single... Did/Do you care about what the opposite sex finds attractive?I did not quit school or not get a degree even though men do not find education or income (sexually) attractive. IMO, income and education aren't themselves attractive, but competence, ambition and confidence definitely are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/24 06:34 PM |
| 2 | When single... Did/Do you care about what the opposite sex finds attractive?In so far as exercising regularly, dressing presentably and being well groomed, yes. Beyond that, not all women are going to find all styles attractive. Some women love beards and others hate them, so should I shave or grow it out? Some women love hairy men like me and others find them repulsive, so should I embrace my natural self or invest in a full body wax? Some women like men who dress in dark intimidating clothing, others despise that look, so who should I cater to? A lot of women like men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/24 06:31 PM |
| 2 | Why do men have this perception that going after financial stability = women finding a man ugly?Before I met my GF I was drunk in a bar with a friend and we got talking to two women. One of them was exactly my type physically. However, once we realised they were younger than we thought they were and were university students, I just wasn't interested in pursuing anything with her. It's OK to have values and to seek partners with similar values, and to prefer not to get involved physically with people who you know won't be compatible long term partners. Money in itself does not contribute to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/24 12:00 AM |
| 9 | Genuine dysphoria induced from misandry. (Hear me out.)How can I click with masculinity? I feel like I'm performing a character. I feel wrong in some sense being a man. I personally hate traditional masculinity because I was forced into it from an early age. But most of the things I do and like are traditionally masculine ones. There's no disconnect in say, having a short haircut, lifting weights, liking trains and machines, being hairy, boxing and martial arts, building and fixing things etc. Those are all great things which I do and like, which bo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/24 09:49 PM |
| 3 | Do you think the idea of the 666 is the sole reason why you, or some men struggle to get dates or sex?Femdom aficionado | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 09:05 PM |
| 0 | Do you think the idea of the 666 is the sole reason why you, or some men struggle to get dates or sex?It's pretty self explanatory? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 07:41 PM |
| 5 | Do you think the idea of the 666 is the sole reason why you, or some men struggle to get dates or sex?Life is too short to not do things you enjoy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 07:10 PM |
| 10 | Do you think the idea of the 666 is the sole reason why you, or some men struggle to get dates or sex?A few years ago I was on a train home from work. Two very drunk and probably coked up women who were both 7+ in appearance were practically forcing themselves on me, asking me to come home with them for sex and behaving in a manner that would certainly have gotten any man posted on social media and arrested. I didn't entertain them and made sure they got home safe without going with them. At the time I had an unflattering buzz cut, was fit but nowhere near as muscular as I am now, and was wearin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 07:07 PM |
| 5 | Women are generally stingy and have a really hard time sharing their resources with men.I guess for me its the idea that I'm not buying her affection or "providing" for her, but rather giving her meaningful things that make her happy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 01:46 PM |
| 6 | muslim marriage is dtill blue pillI agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 01:31 PM |
| 1 | Women are generally stingy and have a really hard time sharing their resources with men.Is it weird that my girlfriend earns much more than me but I still enjoy spoiling her, BUT I only enjoy spoiling her because she earns more than me? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 01:31 PM |
| 16 | muslim marriage is dtill blue pillIslam is a reactionary right wing ideology that is not conducive to good outcomes for either males or females. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 01:24 PM |
| 2 | Women are generally stingy and have a really hard time sharing their resources with men.We don't know what causes those breakups. Perhaps (though I don't think this happens often) the man grows to resent the woman because he feels like he should be providing for her. Perhaps (though again this isn't as common as made out) the man is unwilling to do a fair share childcare and/or household duties now the wife is the main earner. Perhaps there wasn't much of an attraction in the first place so she no longer needs him for stability. Perhaps her friends or family put pressure on her to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 01:23 PM |
| – | Does money turn you on?And yet female animals obtain their own resources, even while pregnant and breastfeeding. That tells you everything you need to know about what females select for when pair bonding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/24 11:04 PM |
| – | Does money turn you on?Real life is not your friend in this argument. Apart from females of literally every animal species providing for themselves and their offspring? I'm in England, which, for all its many faults, is probably much closer to gender egalitarianism than Kyiv. And most couples I've met are looksmatched, and I've met just as many where the male is the more attractive of the two as vice versa. Females are not sexually attracted to wealth and never will be. Every relationship I've encountered between rich… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/24 10:54 PM |
| – | Does money turn you on?By even the most basic research into humans and animals, or by simply seeing and knowing couples in real life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/24 10:36 PM |
| 14 | What do ladies mean when they say men are bad at sex?Incompetent at pleasing her, unwilling/unable to attune to her needs, focused only on their own pleasure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/24 03:54 PM |
| 0 | Why is the red pill seemingly anti kink/fetish?Redpill opposes kink only when it is not the traditional dynamic (dominant male, submissive female) they venerate. Strangely enough their dislike for it is fairly silent when it's trad bullshit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/24 02:06 PM |
| 3 | Does money turn you on?Mate you keep on pushing this pseudoscience no matter how many times it is responded to and debunked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/24 12:07 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: Would you date an attractive "loser"?I would be wary but give it a chance. If the relationship progresses and the person is clearly not trying to find a job/expecting me to provide everything then would reconsider. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/24 05:33 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: Would you date an attractive "loser"?To be clear I am in a relationship, but I would not enter an adult relationship with someone who wasn't self-sufficient. I'm at the point where I want to build a proper life with someone on equal terms, not provide for them. If a disability etc occurred after then that is a different situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/24 05:25 PM |
| 3 | Its sad that most men allow themselves to be used as human ATMs by women.Sure. Food. Women still cook and make the shopping trips. That’s modern day foraging. So what's the "evolutionary" difference between that and acquiring resources by undertaking some sedentary corporate work? Yea, I’m a fascist for not wanting my sons to have inferior genes. So be it. Who decides what are inferior genes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/24 03:22 PM |
| 3 | Its sad that most men allow themselves to be used as human ATMs by women.Female animals of near enough every species provide for their own offspring, even while pregnant and breastfeeding. There are documented instances of women from extant tribal societies foraging with their baby strapped to them. His comments exemplify malfunctioned genetics and laziness. You are as much a fascist as the incels and blackpillers on here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/24 03:18 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: Would you date an attractive "loser"?How does that help if the answer is No? Because some men may be incentivised to date such a person because they have these traits, but I am not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/24 02:44 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: Would you date an attractive "loser"?I'm sorry but no. I expect any partner I have to be fully self-sufficient. Couldn't give a shit about messy rooms or living with parents or whatever, but full employment and financial stability to be able to build a life together is an absolute must. And also uneducated and ignorant is a massive turn off. It helps that I couldn't give a shit about "feminine" or "Low N". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/24 02:36 PM |
| 17 | Men are held to a higher/more rigid standard of masculinity than women are for femininity.For physical features like face, no. Notice how there isn't a "rugged bearded woman" equivalent to "pretty boy" craze. I'd argue that the equivalent difference in that case is cute, youthful, neotenous, "girlish" looking women vs those with more mature, severe, elegant "ladylike" features. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/24 06:39 AM |
| 2 | 'Something remarkable is happening with Gen-Z' - is Reform UK winning the 'bro vote'?Farage is a twat, but it's interesting that the article doesn't even skim the detail about why the Left is failing to appeal to young men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/12/24 04:15 AM |
| 3 | What are your thoughts on the rich man, poor woman dynamic?Generally its probably as rare as rich woman/poor man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 11:03 PM |
| 3 | How much does a man’s finances matter to you?Like I said, it's very possible to be stylish on a budget. I've got my GF expensive stuff like Louboutin and Casadei heels (Loubs aren't worth the price, Casadei are), but I've got her dresses and blouses from Primark which she looks amazing in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 10:42 PM |
| 5 | How much does a man’s finances matter to you?It's beautiful but I bought a blouse which was somewhat similar for my girlfriend for about £40 from River Island. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 10:37 PM |
| 2 | How much does a man’s finances matter to you?One of the (very) few things I'm grateful to my parents for is that they taught me how to be smart and presentable on a budget. It's a skill that has come in very handy for things like job interviews (and court appearances when I was young and stupid and got into trouble with the police ha ha). Because of that I've never had much time for "designer" fashion because I've never needed it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 10:15 PM |
| 2 | How much does a man’s finances matter to you?Genuinely what do you define as "the finer things"? And what is the worst that can happen from living without them? I'll admit, I grew up poor in a run down area, so maybe I just don't have an appreciation for such things even though a combination of intense hard work and pure, unadulterated luck brought me into a job with a good salary. Food? There are great places that do lovely food at reasonable prices. No real need to go expensive. And nothing beats a bit of home made cuisine. Clothes? 90% … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 08:49 PM |
| 3 | How much does a man’s finances matter to you?Would you be willing to be with someone who has high income but doesn't indulge in the "rich lifestyle" due to generational poverty or just not caring? Eg, living in a small place, still walking/getting the bus to most local places, buying/wearing cheap non-designer clothing etc? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 08:24 PM |
| 5 | What do you think about the common assertion that many women have unrealistic standards?You guys can't figure out that (most not all) feminine women want a masculine man, a provider, and someone willing to protect them.Then you get angry and frustrated because you can't attract those women. What if... you don't want a feminine woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 11:09 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Status makes men more attractive to women and that incentives men to create hierarchiesI have drank with wealthy women in their 50s-60s who say the exact opposite of this. Their husbands expect them to be turned on when he comes home in his new BMW, when what they really want is to ravish the bartender who looks like Harry Styles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 12:54 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Status makes men more attractive to women and that incentives men to create hierarchiesNo physical features represent PHYSICAL FEATURES What reproductive value do colourful eyelids, lips, nails and toes represent? If the answer is none, then males must be after something else. Think of some big time director lady who is fat as fuck. She has high status. Ain't nobody trying to fuck her. Nobody wants to fuck the fat director man either. Some, maybe many, women just realise its an easy way to get luxury holidays and louboutins, usually while fucking the guys she's actually attracted … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 12:49 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Status makes men more attractive to women and that incentives men to create hierarchiesShe stopped taking care of her self is what changed. That is a sign of a terrible potential partner. Think about what it signals to a potential mate at the subconscious level. "She is not going to take care of the kids, she is not going to help take care of the family". Still undertakes an intensive diet and exercise regime. She's just decided she doesn't need all that other crap. And yet it has still drastically affected her response from males. But these are all physical features. Status isn't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 12:36 AM |
| 4 | CMV: Status makes men more attractive to women and that incentives men to create hierarchiesGuys are just not sexually aroused by status. Like at all. Most guys are attracted to pretty faces and nice bodies. First and foremost. Aight lemme draw you a diagram. Picture the hottest, most elite Stacy you can imagine. Blonde, blue eyes, stunningly beautiful face, perfect instagram body, professional model, yada yada. The kind whom even triple 6 GigaChadRone who has harems in every town in a 100 mile radius knows he'll have to put in some work to even get a coffee date with her. Now imagine … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 12:23 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Status makes men more attractive to women and that incentives men to create hierarchiesBy that logic, you could say that women don't care about social status because most would pick a 6'6 bodybuilder who works in McDonalds over Rupert Murdoch? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 12:08 AM |
| 4 | CMV: Status makes men more attractive to women and that incentives men to create hierarchiesMost were average looking (and often wore heavy makeup and fake tan which made them look objectively worse) while conventionally prettier girls who were quiet, nerdy or socially awkward go no attention from boys at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 12:06 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Status makes men more attractive to women and that incentives men to create hierarchiesSocial status is actually much, much more desired in women by men than vice versa. Popular culture and fairytales are built around a "worker" (knight/rescuer/hero) male winning the heart of a high status female (Princess, Queen). Remember when you were in school? If you were a male in school and wanted to be popular, you needed to be the best at sport, or the best at fighting, or the funniest, or have the best trainers, or the best looking. The popular girls weren't the best looking, weren't the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/24 11:44 PM |
| 1 | How to make a man feel masculine in a relationship?Perhaps. But I keep my distance from all that. I hope you respect that at least. I spent a lot of time trying to decondition myself from those expectations and feel better for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/24 07:11 PM |
| 2 | How to make a man feel masculine in a relationship?Gender roles are not inherent. If a girl (or anyone really) is scared of an insect I would rather put it outside than kill it. There's nothing masculine about killing a tiny defenceless creature. Providing? My girlfriend earns 3-4x as much as me so I don't think I'll ever be in that position. I would never willingly be in a relationship with a person who expects me to provide for them. Satisfying her sexually? Well yes, but always in the submissive position. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/24 06:44 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Dating is harder for women because we have to judge if the male is safe and can protectI go out of my way to indicate I can't provide these days and my GF still took my number, so erm, damn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/24 04:08 PM |
| 21 | How to make a man feel masculine in a relationship?Nothing makes me "feel masculine". I am a man, therefore I am. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/24 03:06 PM |
| 5 | Social media is putting a spotlight on "trad" culture, which is horrifying for everyoneThere is nothing wrong with wanting to be a homemaker and mother, and there is also nothing wrong with wanting to have a successful career. Some women even do both (with some effort). Or indeed a homemaker father :) A lot of them also dress in this fetishistic 50s attire with their tits out saying how much they love to submit to men. So basically a fetishised version of Conservative Islam with less Arabic and more frilly dreses... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 11:51 AM |
| 17 | Greater Manchester launches strategy on gender-based violence against menInteresting, but the devil is in the detail of course. Hopefully they won't botch the execution in a way that criminalises/villainises male victims. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/11/24 06:46 AM |
| 14 | If both partners work, what are men's expectations for a wife/mother?My girlfriend is still 50/50 on whether she wants kids, but has made clear she does not want to be a SAHM. Her career is much more important to her than mine is to me, so if we were to have kids, her plan would be to take a few weeks/months off to recover, then back to work while I ease out of work and fully pick up the slack at home by the time she is ready to go back. Obviously if there are longer term complications for her after birth then plans would have to change. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/24 01:55 PM |
| 3 | Why don't you approach men?I wonder if that's because for some men, women being interested in them is so rare that they assume there's an ulterior motive? Personally if a random man or woman starts talking to me, I normally assume they're trying to sell me something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/24 11:03 AM |
| 21 | I need a trad husbandthe power your wife has over you will go to her head and she will become a tyrant and rule over you… Stop threatening me with a good time! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/24 02:39 PM |
| 15 | I need a trad husbandHappiest I've ever been my friend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/24 02:15 PM |
| 36 | I need a trad husbandI enjoy being a submissive partner, yes. I don't like being dominant in the bedroom and would rapidly lose attraction to anyone who put me in that position. I enjoy the fact that my girlfriend doesn't expect anything from me (financially). I get her gifts very often, but she's never expected me to "take care" of her or "provide" for her. She's an intelligent, able-bodied human being who is happy to service her own wants and needs. All she asks is that I keep myself desirable for her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/24 01:15 PM |
| 13 | I need a trad husbandShe tried to get back with him afterwards but he understandably chose to leave things as they were. She still considers him "the one that got away". Interestingly she's still friends with that friendship group, even though she wishes she hadn't listened to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/24 01:09 PM |
| 51 | Half of male victims 'do not report domestic abuse'Prof Cherie Armour, one of the authors of the report, said there was a "critical lack of research into the prevalence and health impacts of intimate partner violence against men and boys". Very unfortunate. While it is right that a lot of work has been done to tackle intimate partner abuse against women (and more work remains to be done of course), it's a shame that men and boys have been left behind once again. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/11/24 01:05 PM |
| 18 | I need a trad husbandA lot of this is, as you've said, the pressure from friends/family. Even liberal western parents will heavily drill the need to be with a man who "can take care of you" into their daughters. I've seen it happen. A female friend in a high paid corporate role got with someone who earned somewhat less (but still very respectable income). Absolutely no problem with it from her end, until her friends started whispering in her ear about whether this relationship was "right" for her, whether he's reall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/24 12:56 PM |
| 94 | I need a trad husbandI do most of this but unfortunately am a taken man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/24 12:21 PM |
| 1 | Women are biologically attracted to men with resources but especially men with the skills and status to obtain more resources and these are the primary important features for a man to possessSo what do you think factors into it? You’re super attractive or something, super model guy? Eh, we're both pretty average looking. My point is only that money is not relevant to physical desire. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 07:55 PM |
| 3 | Women are biologically attracted to men with resources but especially men with the skills and status to obtain more resources and these are the primary important features for a man to possessIn higher primate, a lot of the mate selection may very well be cultural as most of the time, when a new group is researched, the results change a lot. Indicating that they (and we) might very well have evolved plasticity in these behaviors that we can adapt to the social conditions of the groups we are part of. Nod. So much of what we're attracted to is based on environmental factors formed in both early childhood and puberty. Some is biological too but environmental factors are too easily dism… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 07:28 PM |
| 2 | Women are biologically attracted to men with resources but especially men with the skills and status to obtain more resources and these are the primary important features for a man to possessEither she found you very attractive physically or really liked something else about you. I'd say we're both objectively pretty average looking but very attracted to each other. We both go to the gym and keep fit but I don't think either of us has a perfect instagram body (something I've never cared about in a partner anyway). But we both make a great deal of effort with our appearances in terms of grooming/makeup and clothing and could probably pass for conventionally attractive when making an … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 07:23 PM |
| 5 | Women are biologically attracted to men with resources but especially men with the skills and status to obtain more resources and these are the primary important features for a man to possessI've lived a life my friend. I've been among wealthy, powerful people (not even "ugly" ones) who use their money to woo women who seemed to be receptive. Every single one of those women was entertaining a more attractive and less well off guy on the side. Attempting to charm women with money will always fail. It does not inspire a physical desire. My GF is from a generation close to you and earns 3-4x as much as I do. The first date she insisted on splitting, and she still insists on splitting o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 07:10 PM |
| 3 | Women are biologically attracted to men with resources but especially men with the skills and status to obtain more resources and these are the primary important features for a man to possessThere are documented instances of modern tribal women foraging with their baby strapped to them. It's simply a necessity for that kind of life. Nobody in our prehistoric days had the luxury of depending on a mate for survival. It had to be all hands on deck if they didn't want to starve. And that's true for female mammals and female animals in general. Females do not select for "provider ability". They never have. However, it's plausible they select for the ability to protect both their resource… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 06:54 PM |
| 4 | Women are biologically attracted to men with resources but especially men with the skills and status to obtain more resources and these are the primary important features for a man to possessPerhaps, but that's parenting and a completely separate discussion to resources. A working mother and stay-at-home father who both have decent presence in their kids lives is going to produce healthier and happier offspring than a wealthy father who pays a lot of child support but never bothers to see his kids. Females do not need males for resources and never have. They've always been able to acquire their own. But it is fairly likely males were sought for their value as fathers in terms of ass… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 06:26 PM |
| 5 | Women are biologically attracted to men with resources but especially men with the skills and status to obtain more resources and these are the primary important features for a man to possessThere are documented instances of tribal women foraging with their baby strapped to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 04:44 PM |
| 5 | Systematic tackling of the male loneliness epidemic?"That's what girls have to think about all the time". As you've said, I would never dispute her lived experience but why erase male victims (who are even more numerous) to push this victimhood narrative? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/11/24 04:38 PM |
| 10 | Women are biologically attracted to men with resources but especially men with the skills and status to obtain more resources and these are the primary important features for a man to possessBut so you’re telling me by large women are better hunters and foragers than men? It's not about being better, it's about the fact that females don't need males to do it for them. And there are indeed records of modern day tribal women foraging while pregnant and/or breastfeeding, some even with their baby strapped to them. Yes women took part in some resource acquisition but men obtained the bulk of it It's thought that foraged items (usually acquired by females) accounted for the bulk of calor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 04:02 PM |
| 17 | Women are biologically attracted to men with resources but especially men with the skills and status to obtain more resources and these are the primary important features for a man to possessMy brother/sister in Christ, females of near enough every animal species obtain their own resources, some even while pregnant/breastfeeding. Prehistoric females and those from extant tribal societies forage, and to a somewhat lesser extent hunt, so human females have always taken part in resource acquisition. The idea that human females are such an outlier that they alone depend solely on males for resources (despite that being completely impractical for survival) is not mere pseudoscience, its … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 03:37 PM |
| – | 3 different debates in one (male sexuality should be embraced and practiced by males and not villainized or subdued) (male and female sexuality are different and not the same and do not operate the same way) (male sexuality is actually true sexuality where as female sexuality uses sexuality…)Men are not willing to fuck or be in an exclusive relationship with an unattractive woman just because he’s rich or successful or famous Women are also not willing to fuck or be in an exclusive relationship with an unattractive man just because she’s rich or successful or famous However, both men and women would be willing to do so if they can benefit from the person's wealth. Doubly so if they can entertain people they are attracted to while doing that. But men want sex inherently and want sexu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 12:26 PM |
| – | 3 different debates in one (male sexuality should be embraced and practiced by males and not villainized or subdued) (male and female sexuality are different and not the same and do not operate the same way) (male sexuality is actually true sexuality where as female sexuality uses sexuality…)Genuinely the amount of women who are willing to date a guy solely because he's wealthy (because there's something to gain for herself) are probably less than 10%. Most of my generation would tell a rich guy attempting to woo her to fuck off. The amount of women who are attracted to a guy solely because he's wealthy is miniscule. It might as well be an obscure fetish. It's not anything close to women having a "male sexuality" it's literally a small but noticeable group of women being willing to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 10:48 AM |
| – | 3 different debates in one (male sexuality should be embraced and practiced by males and not villainized or subdued) (male and female sexuality are different and not the same and do not operate the same way) (male sexuality is actually true sexuality where as female sexuality uses sexuality…)And women will use sex as a trading/reward system for those types of men Yeah while exempting the guys she actually desires from that reward system, even spending rich guy's money on the guy she desires. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 10:38 AM |
| – | 3 different debates in one (male sexuality should be embraced and practiced by males and not villainized or subdued) (male and female sexuality are different and not the same and do not operate the same way) (male sexuality is actually true sexuality where as female sexuality uses sexuality…)But that women add traits and criteria’s to sexuality and SEXUAL attraction that have nothing to do with sexuality. Like money or success or fashion sense or musical tastes or the type of friends you have or etc of random unrelated things Money, success, popularity etc don't actually make a male desirable (though fashion sense etc can help). At best, you'll find some women who are willing to have sex with a rich guy who doesn't get the juices flowing in exchange for luxury holidays and louboutin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 09:38 AM |
| – | 3 different debates in one (male sexuality should be embraced and practiced by males and not villainized or subdued) (male and female sexuality are different and not the same and do not operate the same way) (male sexuality is actually true sexuality where as female sexuality uses sexuality…)IMO, the fundamental difference between male and female sexuality is that females are more selective. Not necessarily hypergamous, but selective. I personally have a rather long list of traits I'd want my "ideal" partner to have. My girlfriend has maybe... half of those? But I'm physically attracted to her and emotionally connected with her enough that the rest of the stuff just isn't important anymore. My girlfriend hates beards, and has made clear to me that she doesn't find me desirable when … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 09:21 AM |
| 4 | Are Reddit women's sentiment regarding male attention reflective of women in real life?I also think the point about attractiveness is spot on, but I also don't think most men are as clueless as the men here. I don't know where y'all got this idea that attraction doesn't matter. Women definitely have never been told this...in fact, we're pretty much raised to believe that nothing else we can possibly do with our lives will matter more than being attractive lol I mean, I started becoming interested in girls when I was about 10-11, and figured out pretty quickly then that I probably … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/24 09:51 PM |
| 9 | Are Reddit women's sentiment regarding male attention reflective of women in real life?Because we've never observed men bothering other men in public, so clearly it's about getting laid and not just being friendly. I don't support or condone cold approaching, but personally I regularly strike up conversations with male strangers at the gym, or on the train, or in the queue at the supermarket etc. I do this with women too but much more rarely (usually when they speak to me first) as I'm aware most don't want to be bothered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/24 09:48 PM |
| 1 | Not placing unrealistically high standards on women is causing the dating crisisYes. I absolutely do not "blame" women for this. It's just a fundamental fact of human nature. Men will always want women more than women want men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/24 09:10 PM |
| 2 | Not placing unrealistically high standards on women is causing the dating crisisWell not everyone's gonna like what I like. Again, some men may prefer a larger woman, or a taller woman, or a butch/masculine woman, or a woman with glasses etc, which are all perfectly fine preferences to have. My point is that it's reductive to say that all men (or indeed all women) want or require a "conventionally attractive" partner. No doubt many will, but many of us will have exceptions, and will be ambivalent or even unattracted to the societal ideal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/24 08:57 PM |
| 2 | Not placing unrealistically high standards on women is causing the dating crisisWell that's my point. What is considered the conventional standard of beauty doesn't do anything for me. In fact I am distinctively unattracted to it (but not so much that I lose attraction to my partner in general). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/24 08:32 PM |
| 6 | Not placing unrealistically high standards on women is causing the dating crisisRegardless of men’s social skills, they prefer conventionally attractive women I mean, do they though? Plenty of men prefer overweight women, or short-haired women, or goth/emo/alternative women, or hijabs, or glasses. My girlfriend would probably be considered conventionally attractive, but I'm most attracted to her when she hasn't shaved her legs in a month and is proudly displaying her natural feminine form. and they they get angry if that woman prefers a man with a stronger social sexual vib… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/24 07:45 PM |
| 2 | Not placing unrealistically high standards on women is causing the dating crisisI'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. We've established repeatedly that females are much, much more selective than males. This doesn't always necessarily mean that they all want a "tall handsome wealthy man" (though I accept that many will in mainstream circles), but it does mean that it is much harder for them to feel desire towards men who don't have whatever traits that particular favours. My girlfriend, for example, is hardline anti beard, and openly admits that she doesn't fin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/24 06:47 PM |
| 6 | Not placing unrealistically high standards on women is causing the dating crisisI think you're creating a strawman here. All things equalised, males are always going to want females more than females want males. It's probably the most fundamental fact of heterosexual relations. I'm not sure why you've assumed that anyone who struggles with romantic relations automatically has a "shit personality" or "serious social issues". I've met many who are genuinely good, decent people. This leans too hard into "just world" fallacies. As I've said elsewhere, take male/female twins wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/24 06:31 PM |
| 6 | Not placing unrealistically high standards on women is causing the dating crisisWhy aren’t there 8 women asking for bobs number? I have answered your question repeatedly. Because males want females more than females want males. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/24 06:26 PM |
| 5 | Not placing unrealistically high standards on women is causing the dating crisisI don't think I'm disputing anything you've said. My point is that a male and female who have objectively similar qualities will not have the same level of desirability. Bob and Christina could be twins who have similar faces, who have similar jobs or at least the same socioeconomic status, go to the gym the same amount of times a week, eat similar diets, get their hair cut/styled at the same frequency, shop at the same clothes shop, pay the same amount of attention to grooming/makeup, and yet C… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/24 06:18 PM |
| 6 | Not placing unrealistically high standards on women is causing the dating crisisSure, my point is only that the playing field is not the same. Males will always want females more than females want males. An average-looking female with an okay face and body, competent grooming and decent clothes will turn heads in most places she goes. An average looking male with all of the above... probably will not. It's not anybody's fault and nobody should be blamed, it is simply a fact of human nature. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/24 06:07 PM |
| 12 | Not placing unrealistically high standards on women is causing the dating crisisYou have to go for the female version of yourself. Meaning if you are a man who gets little to no swipes/attention, you need to find a woman who also gets no swipes and attention. Because then you guys will be matched in desirability. But is that the female version of yourself though? In theory you could be an "average" man who has a decent job, an okay-looking face, dresses respectably, exercises and has a healthy/fit body, shaves and has a haircut regularly, and has no "baggage" from family is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/24 06:02 PM |
| 16 | Systematic tackling of the male loneliness epidemic?Campaigns highlining issues without demonising or blaming. Couple of weeks ago in university town near me there was organised event for protest to make streets safer at night. EVERYONE was invited. Event immediately started with long speech about male violence against women, I didn't go but watched some videos posted. You could see how faces changed on the poor men that attended the even. From people who went I know several who left the even angry some of them have been previously victims of mug… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/11/24 03:56 PM |
| 28 | The Guardian: The boys in our liberal school are different now that Trump has wonThere's nothing wrong with wanting to live within traditional gender roles. Nothing wrong with it, yes. But it does ignore the cultural and societal pressures that exist on us as men, from both traditionalists and feminists. Feminists often talk about "choice feminism" the idea that any choice a woman freely makes is innately liberating, from the most traditional to the most nonconformist. They critique the idea because there are deeper reasons why a person would conveniently "choose" to conform… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/11/24 02:29 PM |
| 10 | Why do women dress provocatively if they don't like most men?Modern street fashion, on the other hand, seems very tame and anti-male-gaze, e.g. baggy clothes, generic sneakers etc. Not sure it's "anti male gaze" as such, It's just fashionable to look scruffy at the moment. I haven't been clubbing for years, but have been past the queues on the way home from work. If you look at the queue these days, even the "trendy" places are full of 18-23 year men and women in baggy jeans, t-shirts and trainers. 10-15 years ago, most bars and clubs had a hard "no train… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/24 11:06 AM |
| 61 | “Your body my choice”I'm not American, so I've not come across anyone either online or in real life using this phrase. Needless to say, this phrase is appalling and there is no justification for using it, whether in jest or otherwise. HOWEVER, the same is also true for "kill all men" and "male tears" which are also treated as jokes despite the horrid implications behind them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/11/24 10:17 AM |
| 1 | Should housework be split 50/50 if both parters are working full time?Expected by whom exactly? I started out blue collar and did most if not all cooking with every partner I've been with, which I didn't mind as I actually like cooking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/24 04:08 PM |
| 1 | Should housework be split 50/50 if both parters are working full time?I take it you also consider women who work physical/on their feet jobs to be equally unviable partners? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/24 04:01 PM |
| 0 | Should housework be split 50/50 if both parters are working full time?I think it can depend on a variety of factors. Money can be one but it's rarely that simple. Hours worked, nature of work, working conditions, etc can be just as important. If partner A is a doctor or nurse on their feet all day while Partner B sits in an office, then it wouldn't be fair for Partner A to have to spend more time on their feet cooking and cleaning. But then if Partner C works on a construction site, on their feet all day shovelling and heavy lifting in freezing cold or blistering … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/24 02:29 PM |
| 1 | There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposabilityWell to be fair she only started letting them grow because she knows I like it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/24 04:55 PM |
| 1 | If Women Were Historically in Charge We Wouldnt Ne Better Off—And If They Took Charge Tomorrow Nothing Would Be Different.I grew up in a South Asian muslim family. Islam is the most "patriarchal" ideology ever created, but the most fervent enforcers of that system on the younger generation? The women. It was them reminding the children of their "traditional" roles. The men were much more half hearted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/24 04:26 PM |
| -1 | There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposabilityI'm a quality man and I love when my missus doesn't shave! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/24 04:12 PM |
| 11 | There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposabilityHey now, if we're talking "evolutionary psychology" then it ain't females who need things like peacock's feathers, lion's mane and deer's antlers to be beautiful enough to attract mates. Next generation of males best hit the nail varnish and lipstick and add some colour to themselves if they want to beat the old hypergamy... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/24 04:11 PM |
| 1 | If Women Were Historically in Charge We Wouldnt Ne Better Off—And If They Took Charge Tomorrow Nothing Would Be Different.Human society as a whole has never been a "matriarchy" or a "patriarchy". There have been individual societies, religions and pockets of history which have skewed towards one or the other, but human nature always wins out in the end. Males will always need females and females will always need males. Females have always contributed to the acquisition of resources and males have always assisted with the nurturing of offspring. Even the most matriarchal/patriarchal societies in the world have requi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/24 03:59 PM |
| 8 | There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposabilityYou only need to go into a shithole area like the council estate I grew up in to find women who actually have jobs or educational prospects merrily having sex with men who have zero financial prospects or ability to be a competent parent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/24 03:49 PM |
| 3 | Do you expect to date a person with your political beliefs?My political views are all over the place, so it would be more of a problem getting my views to agree with someone else. I'm economically on the extreme left, worker's rights and worker ownership and all that jazz. I am firmly pro gay rights, pro trans rights, and firmly of the view that people should be allowed to act, dress and present themselves however they see fit (so long as it isn't harming anyone else), and that men and women should be equal before the law and should not be denied anythi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/24 04:44 PM |
| – | Why do you on average like masculine men so much if they often times cause so much trouble?You say it like its a bad thing... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/24 04:20 PM |
| – | Why do you on average like masculine men so much if they often times cause so much trouble?My girlfriend is hardline anti-beard and openly states she doesn't find me attractive when I'm not clean shaven. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/24 03:04 PM |
| 1 | Is female-dominant/male-submissive romantic prevalence underrated in online discussion? (Or, why "dominant women don't exist" might be misleading)I didn't say it was those things. My relationship certainly is not. My point is only that maledom has been romanticised in the mainstream discourse in a way that femdom has not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/24 09:08 AM |
| 16 | Studies on Sexual Harassment in Schools"Flashing" and "grinding" were quite common among both boys and girls. Inappropriate sexual comments were rampant from both. There was also a bit of a thing in which one of the "popular" girls would befriend an unpopular boy and start calling him "her boyfriend" in a mocking way to intimidate him and make him uncomfortable, which usually involved some level of sexual harassment such as trying to touch his crotch, rubbing her chest against him, discussing aggressively sexual topics etc. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/11/24 12:19 AM |
| 16 | Sign the petition to ban the infant circumcision fetish subreddit, CircMoms2That is... utterly horrifying. I hope to fuck that it's a troll sub. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/24 04:32 PM |
| 12 | He’s right.Truly believe Bernie would have been a force to be reckoned with. Bernie and Corbyn in power at the same time would've been the best timeline. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/24 11:45 AM |
| 15 | Is female-dominant/male-submissive romantic prevalence underrated in online discussion? (Or, why "dominant women don't exist" might be misleading)High-libido women are more submissive. My girlfriend is very high libido and isn't remotely submissive so I have doubts about this. I have no real answer to your questions, but I do wonder if its perhaps because Male Dom/Female Sub relationships are heavily romanticised in a sort of "gilded cage" way. The Sub sees the Dom as her protector and carer. Even on places like Tumblr which lean Hard-Feminist, you'll see posts about how being a (female) submissive means being cared for by someone you dee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/24 04:18 PM |
| 12 | I father of 2, got called incel at work here is whyHer response was that it doesn’t count because it’s other men committing those crimes. I feel like we should all have this video on standby whenever someone comes out with that "rebuttal". | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/11/24 08:14 PM |
| 24 | Studies on Sexual Harassment in SchoolsThis seems pretty accurate to my experience in a UK school. Harassment and inappropriate behaviour was rampant from both boys and girls, albeit not of a violent nature. Impulsive, hormonal, idiotic teenagers (male and female) are going to act like impulsive, hormonal, idiotic teenagers. It is the duty of parents, teachers and other adults with a duty of care to combat this and educate them towards a better way, so that they don't become more serious offenders in the future. Unfortunately, as the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/11/24 08:07 PM |
| 2 | In what ways are men and women most different?We're much more similar than we are different, but there are genuine differences. But equally I think those differences are largely evolved for the pressures of prehistoric humans, and largely irrelevant to modern society. Also, we are a learning species, and socialisation can not only skew/exaggerate our differences, but also repress and override them. One key difference I don't think is often mentioned is how men and women compete among their own social circles. For males it is usually based a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/24 01:08 PM |
| 11 | How do you show appreciation to your partner and how would you want your partner to show you appreciation?Gifts - Expensive or cheap but always meaningful. Compliment her stylish outfits, but remind her she's beautiful when she's dressed down. Thank her for everything she's done for me. Give her space. She likes to crack on with stuff herself, so when she's busy with work or family stuff I don't bother her. Text her sporadically to check in but nothing beyond that. Give her earth shattering orgasms. We get to the finish line together or not at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/24 09:29 AM |
| 1 | Q4A: What are your most "self-contradictory" attractions?I think us males are socialised to need and want to provide (whether financially, emotionally or physically), and to draw self worth from that even at the expense of our own feelings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/24 02:36 PM |
| 0 | Are companionship and intimacy needs?Not in the sense that you would die without it, but I think not having those things can drastically affect your physical and mental health. Anyone who is not asexual and/or aromantic will end up deeply unhappy if they lack intimacy and romantic connection for too long. Sex alone is largely irrelevant and will not solve this (though it is highly preferable to nothing at all). There was a point when I was in my late teens when I had had a few sexual experiences and was still entertaining "incel" l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/24 02:32 PM |
| 1 | Q4A: What are your most "self-contradictory" attractions?one must accept that they are wanted even if they are not needed I think this is the best way to be. I am much happier in a relationship being "wanted" rather than needed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/24 02:24 PM |
| 2 | Q4A: What are your most "self-contradictory" attractions?Someone being successful is not always linked to money, and I feel like it is healthy to find pleasure in providing beneficial things to your partner life. Whether they need it or not. Yes. When I buy her things they are always things with meaning behind them, either things she needs or things she has an appreciation for. I also think that shaving is not a sign of style or wanting to appear beautiful. And the other way around, not shaving does not mean the person isn't interested in their look. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/24 02:22 PM |
| 1 | Q4A: What are your most "self-contradictory" attractions?How lovely :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/24 01:59 PM |
| 1 | Q4A: What are your most "self-contradictory" attractions?If that's your lived experience then I won't dispute it. But for me personally, I think traditional femininity can be attractive in terms of appearance/presentation (besides shaved legs, which are neutral-negative for me), most behaviours associated with it are at best neutral or at worst outright repulsive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/24 01:49 PM |
| 1 | Q4A: What are your most "self-contradictory" attractions?I also didn’t realize that men pretty much universally prefer dainty, helpless, femme women who “need” them for everything. If my girlfriend was any of the above I would lose attraction any attraction to her immediately. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/24 01:42 PM |
| 1 | Q4A: What are your most "self-contradictory" attractions?I'd say I'm probably louder and more "extroverted" than my girlfriend. However, she is the more socially "dominant" of the two of us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/24 01:11 PM |
| 1 | How much of the differences between men and women behavior is because of brain chemistry and how much is due to our environmentI think we are more similar than we are different, but there are very real differences, primarily in social-sexual behaviour. HOWEVER, those differences are not really relevant in the context of modern society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/24 09:57 AM |
| 11 | A word on toxic masculinity and desi menSouth Asian culture in general is very socially conservative and extremely heavy on "traditional gender roles". It's very "boys don't cry" and "be a man". For me I had the "good fortune" of growing up in South Asian household while also living in a predominantly White working class area which was also heavy on men being men, and have had to put a lot of work into deconditioning from both. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/10/24 06:14 AM |
| 2 | Women promote “toxic masculinity”; Men promote “toxic femininity”My girlfriend had an emotional and empathetic father so has never had any time for closed off unfeeling men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/24 07:32 PM |
| 3 | Women promote “toxic masculinity”; Men promote “toxic femininity”I have no time for such people whether male or female. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/24 05:39 PM |
| 8 | Women promote “toxic masculinity”; Men promote “toxic femininity”I strongly dislike aggressive bullies whether male or female. But I like women who are authoritative and can take charge through competence, knowledge and charisma. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/24 05:35 PM |
| 2 | Women promote “toxic masculinity”; Men promote “toxic femininity”Yes. I am not for a second denying that a significant part of attraction is primarily biological. However I do make the point that we are a learning species, and early childhood and formative experiences can have a huge impact on how attractions develop, up to and including overriding some of our base biological inclinations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/24 04:06 PM |
| 2 | Women promote “toxic masculinity”; Men promote “toxic femininity”Perhaps. I'm a pretty introspective person and have traced most of the things I'm attracted to to their original influences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/24 04:00 PM |
| 14 | Women promote “toxic masculinity”; Men promote “toxic femininity”Not speaking for anybody else, but I am very attracted to competent and confident women. And submissiveness (in the bedroom and in general life) is a turnoff. But beyond my own desires, I think it is fair to say that many people, while ideologically liberal, are still heavily conditioned into the gender roles that are everywhere. A woman could be all for men opening up and being more in touch with their emotions, but her attraction would still be the muscular, stoic manly bloke, because that was… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/24 03:45 PM |
| 4 | Are female virgins past 23 typically very desirable?As someone who grew up in heavy purity/modesty based culture (Islam) and now wants nothing to do with those values, a virgin would be an "under no circumstances" for me. Neither "modesty" nor "purity" are traits I find attractive in a woman. Even if not outright religious, if she was well into adulthood and was attractive enough to date but chose to remain a virgin at that point, she obviously has similar values which are incompatible with mine. More importantly, it's hard to know if such a pers… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/24 07:43 PM |
| 1 | Do Modern Men Want Women to be More Submissive or more Masculine?Not sure why "submissive" is being contrasted against "masculine" rather than "dominant" here (as if to imply one can't be masculine and submissive or feminine and dominant) but I digress... But no. I wouldn't want a submissive partner. I'm a collaborative person by nature. My girlfriend usually decides what we're doing and I tend to follow her lead, unless I happen to be more knowledgeable on a particular activity. If she decides on something particularly expensive she'll pay for it since it wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/24 05:49 AM |
| 1 | Does this sub believe that "traditional" masculinity and/or gender roles should be promoted/encouraged?Great comment! Personally I'm all for teaching all children a level of both emotional regulation/responsibility but also allowing and supporting vulnerability, and also allowing them to explore all possible interests whether they be traditionally "masculine" or "feminine" ones. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/10/24 02:17 PM |
| 3 | Why do some women behave to attract sexual attention from men and lie about it?It's interesting the way the goalposts are moved on this. "Women are wearing XYZ in the gym to attract attention". OK, so Jane Doe starts wearing loose, baggy and unrevealing clothing. "Women are exercising and moving their bodies in a way to attract male attention." Like, what's the solution these people want? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 08:00 AM |
| 3 | What if Everyone swapped Gender? How would the Dating Market change?This does not work as the women turned men now realize that the system of abuse and control forced upon them their entire lives was based on an arbitrary biological dice roll from which an ancient book full of misogynistic bull crap and praising the life of a pedophile who married a 13 year old was bullshit, the women rise up and kill the hypocritical leaders and establish a fair and secular government where a nonsense ideology full of bigotry and misogyny is no longer in power. I'd love this to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 07:42 PM |
| 3 | What are some ways that women suffer that you can acknowledge or understand?Also to add, SHAVING. My girlfriend has been shaving her legs etc for many years since her teens, and even though I don't find her any less attractive when she hasn't shaved (in fact I strongly prefer it) she feels "lazy" and "dirty" just for having her natural body. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/10/24 04:02 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: Would you choose a deep emotional connection with your gf? Or for just primal "Chad" lust?Already have... near enough anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/24 04:26 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: Would you choose a deep emotional connection with your gf? Or for just primal "Chad" lust?What can I say... life's too short to not do things you enjoy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/24 04:23 AM |
| 6 | Q4M: Would you choose a deep emotional connection with your gf? Or for just primal "Chad" lust?I mean, in my real life I have both, but in the spirit of the question probably Option 1. I don't find sex fulfilling if there isn't a romantic bond. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/24 08:29 PM |
| – | Its only okay when men say it apparentlyMen: I'm most attracted to 18-21yr old women and feel women hit the wall at 30 30+ are vastly more attractive than 18-21. Most 18-21 still look like teenagers and it's impossible to think of them as sexual beings. Men: Fat women are disgusting Eh. Neutral. I have definitely been attracted to women of the bigger variety in the past, though it isn't my usual preference. I couldn't be attracted to someone who was morbidly obese but I couldn't be attracted to someone who was unhealthily thin either.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/24 09:00 AM |
| 1 | Men being stay at home dadsIt's the life I've always dreamed of, far more than any job or career, but I think it's unlikely to ever happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/24 08:39 PM |
| 158 | Prison isn't working for women, ministers say. Can it be fixed?As an ex-prisoner myself, thought it'd be nice to post some highlights from an absolute joke of an article: Just 4% of people in prison are women and they are a very different population to the other 96% - they are less likely to be violent or prolific offenders. We do need more prison spaces, but those places should be filled with violent or prolific men, rather than women who are not. So this is an issue that disproportionately affects men and instead of trying to analyse why that is and possi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/10/24 08:07 AM |
| 11 | Women and men who make more than their partners generally treat them like shit.My girlfriend earns 3-4x as much as I do and we've never argued about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/24 11:57 AM |
| 1 | What are some of the ways in which we shame each other's dating preferencesConformity to "traditional" nonsense and a belief that enforcing it is doing what's best for their friends? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/24 07:00 AM |
| 5 | What are some of the ways in which we shame each other's dating preferencesA lot of our dating decisions can be constrained by the pushing of our friends/acquaintances family. A female friend of mine who works in a high paid corporate position dated an electrician who earned decent money in his own right but nowhere near as much as her, and faced a huge amount of pressure and prejudice from her own friends to get someone who "can take care of her". Eventually she caved into that pressure and ended the relationship, and to this day she deeply regrets it. A male friend o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/24 04:03 PM |
| 1 | Do men still prefer to be the main breadwinner? And what would the ideal wife be in this scenario?Because I want to be a husband and father a lot more than I want to do any particular job. It has been my "dream job" ever since I was a child. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 09:24 AM |
| -1 | Do men still prefer to be the main breadwinner? And what would the ideal wife be in this scenario?I would never be happy being in the breadwinner role. My partner earns 3-4x as much money as me, and enjoys her job a lot more than I enjoy mine (and I actually like my job). We're still unsure as to when/if children are going to happen, but if it did happen she has said she wouldn't have a problem making a quick return to work (provided everything goes alright with the birth/recovery etc) and let me be the primary caregiver. However, she may change her mind if it ever became reality. If she wer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 08:59 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: When/How to approachFair enough. Personally I regularly compliment men and women (not in the context of a romantic approach) on what they are wearing. I definitely wouldn't in the "plunging v-neck top" situation you mentioned, because that's using clothing to focus on the body, which can understandably be uncomfortable. But I've found that a man in a sharp stylish suit or a woman in an elegant pair of stilettos generally enjoy being complimented on those things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/24 03:25 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: When/How to approachWhen striking up a conversation, you absolutely must not say anything about her physical appearance. I don't condone Cold Approaching, but what about things like outfits, hats, shoes, bags etc. Technically physical appearance but not "objectifying your body" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/24 03:16 PM |
| 2 | Why don't women respect submissive men?The issue is that none of this makes any sense to women because women cannot accept and look at heterosexuality being painful for men too. The "negative side of sexuality" that men experience is a concept that women can't or won't look at. I mean, does it have to be a negative side of sexuality specifically? I am a very sexually submissive male, and interestingly spent most of early childhood being told off for nearly everything I did by parents, aunts/uncles, teachers, other kids and everyone e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/24 01:44 PM |
| 1 | In experience, how do women act in the presence of an "Alpha" male?Are they doing the stuff I said in either category? Depends on the person. I'm about 75% sure the office manager is attracted to me on some level. I have a GF and she has a partner and a child so I've never inquired further. But she's very touchy-feely with me, giggles at my jokes, asks about my personal life and talks about hers, always asks when I'll be in the office next, will sometimes randomly pull a chair over and just sit and chat to me while I'm working, jokes that I'll only be allowed i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/24 01:15 PM |
| 1 | In experience, how do women act in the presence of an "Alpha" male?Fair enough. If it helps I am muscular and wear dark militaristic clothing... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/24 09:06 AM |
| 1 | In experience, how do women act in the presence of an "Alpha" male?who exhibits overt masculinity/boyishness with confidence more on the shy or less overtly masculine side What's the dividing line on this? I'm not shy. I can make small talk with pretty much anyone. My company office is very large with many people from different sectors of the organisation. Everyone at the office (male or female) likes me because I make an effort to remember what they said they were going to do on the weekend or where they went for a holiday, and am quick to notice if they'd had… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/24 09:40 PM |
| 4 | Those who are in Role Reversal or Gender Non-confirming relationships, what can you teach us about human nature?My GF earns 3-4 times as much as me. We're probably about equal in terms of looks and both put in a lot of effort to look stylish and respectable. She usually decides what we're doing and where we're going, though she does appreciate input from me. If we're doing drinks in rounds we split it. If we're doing dinner she pays. We've both bought gifts and surprises for each other. She's the dominant partner both inside and outside the bedroom, and it works well for both of us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 06:54 AM |
| 2 | "Women face more external pressure, men face more internal pressure"As soon as I started thinking about girls (at the age of 10 or 11) I figured that I probably needed to do things like go to the gym and have a decent haircut if I even wanted a chance. By this point I go to the gym because lifting heavy things feels good. I shave my beard, get a haircut every two weeks, and dress respectably because doing those things makes me feel presentable and put together. I would not feel like "less of a man" for not doing those things, though I am disappointed when I can'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 03:55 PM |
| 6 | What is the most submissive thing you have done for a man ?Plot Twist: He actually finds submissive women very unattractive and is repulsing himself to complete r/NoFap... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/24 10:56 PM |
| 2 | Women DO fashion for themselves.Sure, but that's less because it actually makes the women look better and more because makeup and painted/fake nails are a display of wealth/social status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/24 06:51 PM |
| 1 | Women DO fashion for themselves.I think most men and women would always choose a partner they are physically attracted to over wealth and social status. However, once the attraction threshold is met, that's when signs of social status become the decider. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/24 05:44 PM |
| 4 | Women DO fashion for themselves.in this case it's the human females who are more sparkly and take better care for their looks than men. That's only been a thing in the last few centuries or so, when women for valued for nothing except their looks, while males could be guaranteed a wife just by having a half-decent income, and so didn't fulfil their biological imperative to beautify themselves to its full extent. There's a huge beauty industry catered to women to back up my theory. Only because once beautification became known … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/24 05:40 PM |
| -1 | Women DO fashion for themselves.But they need to do it to attract the men who have a choice regarding which woman to choose. But that's less because it actually makes the women look better and more an indicator of social status. IE, a woman who uses lipstick, makeup and painted/fake nails can afford these things, and is therefore wealthier and higher status than one who doesn't, and therefore a more viable mate even if the two women are identical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/24 05:25 PM |
| 3 | Women DO fashion for themselves.Human male’s beard isn’t something that makes a woman want to have sex with him, really it’s usually a detractor in his attractiveness if it isn’t properly groomed and styled. True. Just because a feature evolved to be more distinctively male doesn't automatically mean that females are going to like it. Also, I always hear from men that they prefer hair extensions, makeup, heels, and nails/lashes done vs not doing them. I have heard it from every single man I’ve dated now that I think about it. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/24 05:08 PM |
| 3 | Women DO fashion for themselves.My husband loves color and shine and style. I do it primarily for him. So do I, but largely because they tend to represent confident, charismatic and authoritative women, all things that are very attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/24 01:35 PM |
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