How important is "feeling masculine" or "feeling feminine" to you?

Lift_and_Lurk · 2024-04-30T13:09:22+00:00

I like the things I like unapologetically. If lifting weights and liking sports are “masculine” fine. If playing “Barbie vs legos” with my youngest is considered feminine, fine. I’ll do that to.
Don’t care. Who is gonna judge me? “Them”? The strangers on the internet? Who gives a fuck about thier opinions

try_hard1976 · 2024-04-30T13:02:44+00:00

Any dude that has to announce to the world how this or that action makes him feel masculine is only admitting that he questions his masculinity himself

Gravel_Roads · 2024-04-30T13:01:06+00:00

I just don't care. I like feeling accomplished - like, I garden, and I make art and I go for jogs and I hang out with my cats and all of those things give me pleasure, but I don't like... go through the day asking myself "do I feel MASCULINE enough rn?" I am a man. I don't need to perform rituals to feel masculine.

bluestjuice · 2024-04-30T14:07:59+00:00

I’m genderqueer so there is a part of me that enjoys casually subverting the expectations of masculinity or femininity on occasion. But more often than not I just like doing whatever the fuck I want in terms of gender expression.

RadicalQueenBee · 2024-04-30T12:51:55+00:00

Not at all. I don't even bother shaving my pits or legs even in the summer. And I don't really care about looking "feminine" next to my partner either. My bf is very masculine looking but back when I was single I would also entertain femboys.

IronDBZ · 2024-04-30T12:39:44+00:00

Just speaking from the perspective of a guy who likewise isn't much interested in displaying masculinity for internal reasons.

The only reasons I would ever care about traditional gender roles in that "I wouldn't feel masculine if I let her pay" sense is just anxiety or fear, or maybe even the certainty that if I don't perform the kind of masculinity my partner expects that they will be disgusted by me, lose interest in me, start disrespecting me and so on.

It's a lot less about what I feel is important and more about what I feel is an unspoken gun to my head from the women in my life.

Sometimes it's simple stuff, sometimes it's bigger stuff, but ultimately "masculinity" just feels like a box that women can either attempt to put me into or allow me room get out of. I'm better about not allowing myself to be pidgeonholed too much these days, but I still hold back a lot.

Cause if I live too much like I'd actually prefer, I wouldn't be very viable.

Sharp_Engineering379 · 2024-04-30T13:01:18+00:00

Interesting topic for this sub, thanks.

I have male dominated hobbies and interests and work in a male dominated industry and almost exclusively with men unless I’m training or teaching. I love my coworkers (except for Austin; Austin can go fuck himself) but I have to spend 45-55 hours per week with a stoic expression and aggressive posture. I purposely dress like a dude and wear a binder or constrictive minimizing bra. Same thing at the gym: I dress like Adam Sandler at the gym except for the occasional yoga or Pilates class.

But that doesn’t suit my personality at all. I’m always smiling, never use foul language, love strangers, big hugger, love sundresses and sandals. Always making pleasant noises at strangers, compliment and niceties come naturally for me.

But I do not like sexual attention from men I’m not interested in, so I spend too much of my time covering my chest and acting cold and aloof. Pisses me off. I feel like being my feminine self invites sexual attention, almost exclusively from much older men who are positively awful.

I don’t like the constant performance, the constant perusal and appraisal from men. I live for my leisure activities where I can just hang out in mixed social groups and be myself, which is a girly girl who happens to like sports, the outdoors, and rally.

If I could do as I please, I’d be dressed in feminine clothing most of the time, I’d wear makeup more often, I’d smile at everyone, and I’d be warm and welcoming all day long.

And I’m certain there are thousands if not millions of men who are exhausted by the swaggering masculine/stoic performance, too.

Good_Result2787 · 2024-04-30T14:35:52+00:00

Not very. As a man born disabled, I had to rethink a lot over the years about what it really means to "be masculine." I suppose it is more accurate to say that "fitting into what is typically seen or idealized as the masculine" is not very important to me. Mostly because I can't allow it to be. Trying to reach that with my physical issues would simply take too much time, energy, self-doubt, and interest in trying to both be something I can't be and something I think others would want to see me as.

Do I see myself as a man? I do. And even as an adult who is more secure than his adolescent self, sometimes I see myself as less than everyone else. I have to keep working on that. But I still see myself as a man, and perhaps even a masculine one sometimes. Just that I am probably not a man that a stranger would think of as masculine--and that's alright. I can only try to work on how I see myself.

Demasii · 2024-04-30T14:42:10+00:00

I was actually thinking about this last night.

The insecurity one feels about their masculinity or femininity sounds like dysphoria trans people get but just in a lesser degree.

I don't give any thought about my femininity. My mind just don't register it as an actual thing at exist. It's definitely a strong component of one's identity to other people.

I would like to know whether this is something that is caused by nature or nurture.

Obvious_Smoke3633 · 2024-04-30T12:56:55+00:00

I don't have to feel feminine I am feminine. I'm a woman. My femininity is mine and no one and no choice can take that away from me. I don't have to do anything perfomative to feel feminine. I just am.

leosandlattes · 2024-04-30T12:56:43+00:00

I love feeling feminine, although I don’t really put that much thought into it on any given day. Like you, my gender expression aligns with the sex I was born into — I am a female who likes wearing dresses, skirts, and heels; buys cutesy and whimsical decor; likes makeup, cooking, and gardening; is in love with anything pink or pastel and frilly… but I don’t feel like those things make me feminine. I think it’s the opposite actually, that I like those things because of my innate femininity.

Like I said though, it’s not something I really think about. I guess feel comparatively more feminine when in the presence of a man, but I have never needed someone much much taller or someone very muscular to make me feel feminine. I already am feminine.

Choice-Substance-183 · 2024-04-30T15:14:58+00:00

Idk what "feeling feminine" even means.

I don't need to paint my nails or wear lipstick to feel feminine.

And I don't think doing my best at something is inherent masculine.

krackedy · 2024-04-30T12:42:02+00:00

I really couldn't care less. I'm not insecure about my masculinity even though I know I'm not the most typically masculine. I've cried to my wife, I've been temporarily financially supported by her, I've been pegged by her, I don't give a shit. I'm a confident person and just like to be my genuine self.

In the past I've had insecurities about it, but I realized that led to unhappy relationships.

CraftyCooler · 2024-04-30T13:59:53+00:00

I do not think about such bullshit - only cucks and neckbeards without any serious problems think about their masculinity.

Dense-Tell-6147 · 2024-04-30T14:01:18+00:00

I learned to “degender” activities. I am a trained musician, I love art, dance, literature but also fashion and aesthetics in general. I grew up in a traditional European country, my father was absent. I was bullied, even brutally for my “feminine” interests, and I had no one teaching me “manly” stuff. I also never had an interest in watching sports, or doing “boyish” stuff. Growing up, I embraced also more “traditional” activities, but I never cared “gendering” them. Due to my past troubles I am a very good listener, I became, in many cases the “shoulder to cry on”, for women and men alike, but I also enjoy physically exerting activities. I can play music with a very delicate touch as well as with Sturm und Drang, when needed. And in intimate settings, I can be very bold, as well as elusive, depending on where the flows go. If my sensitive part is to be considered “feminine” so be it, it brought me a lot of pain, but it’s part of me as well as my “masculine” one.

gntlbastard · 2024-04-30T14:14:14+00:00

Growing up I naturally gravitated to riding motorcycles, working with my hands - flat out just enjoyed it. Now that I am older and working in a career that requires me to spend a lot of time buried in tech, I find myself spending more time with my hobbies just to balance out. What I don't do is spend a lot of time debating if something is masculine or feminine etc. Way waste time instead of enjoying what you want to do?

spaffjizz · 2024-04-30T15:09:05+00:00

I dislike a lot of 'feminine' personality, such as being passive, agreable and mild mannered.

I enjoy looking feminine because I think it's attractive.

Makuta_Servaela · 2024-04-30T13:00:11+00:00

The way I see it, the more a person cares about their "masculinity" or "femininity", the less confident in either they come off.

Zabadoodude · 2024-04-30T13:50:42+00:00

For me it's not about "feeling masculine" it's just that my personality is masculine. I don't cry. I like to be self reliant. I like being physically strong, I'm competitive, etc. I'm like this not specifically to feel more masculine, but because that's just how I am.

CoyoteSmarts · 2024-04-30T15:22:09+00:00

IMO, at it's culturally agnostic core, masculine energy is about acting your will on the world - influencing the external to align with your internal drive/agenda. Conversely, the core of feminine energy is when you release egoic control and let the external world drive your internal experience.

Doing laps in a pool = you're in masculine energy
- Soaking in a hot tub = you're in feminine energy
Shaving your legs = masculine (because you're taking action)
- Enjoying the feeling of having shaved legs = feminine
Racing a car = masculine
- Enjoying a car race as a spectator or being wowed by a particular car = feminine
Cooking food = masculine
- Enjoying your wife's food = feminine
Toxic masculinity = never being receptive to anything; trying to force your will where it doesn't belong
- Toxic femininity = too much passivity; lacking boundaries, aspirations, and accountability

But when women say they do things because they like feeling feminine, it means they enjoy the passively pleasurable experience it brings them.

And then when you say that you "just feel good" about hitting a personal best at the gym - that sense of accomplishment is in fact you taking pleasure from being in masculine energy - just as it would be for a woman who hit her personal best.

So yes, both men and women naturally have both, though most people have a preference, and it doesn't always fall along gender lines. It certainly doesn't follow society's arbitrary designations - as you already determined yourself.

Dankutoo · 2024-04-30T15:42:44+00:00

I am a man. I am inherently masculine...I don't have to "feel" masculine anymore than I have to "feel" like I have brown eyes. I just do.

eveleaf · 2024-04-30T17:37:11+00:00

I've always felt like "femininity" was a box I resented, because society wanted to force me into it. Even today, while I have some "feminine" traits, I probably have just as many not considered feminine, and I like them too.

No shade to hyper-masculine guys or ultra-feminine women. You do you. But I just want to be myself, without feeling forced to perform a role the other gender wants from me.

I wouldn't be surprised if many men felt the same.

volleyballbeach · 2024-05-01T16:13:09+00:00

Unimportant. I dislike gender rolls and labeling things as masculine or feminine

Common-Ferret-1435 · 2024-04-30T12:56:06+00:00

I do not care in the slightest.

All that other crap is how you desperately want others to perceive you.

I don’t really care how general people perceive me, that’s a tbh em problem. And no one has ever brought it up who have an opinion I would care about.

I’m sure as hell not going to waste time virtue signaling traits made up by internet grifters.

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SecondEldenLord · 2024-04-30T12:45:18+00:00

I personally don't care, I do what I want when I want. Couldn't give two shits if people think my hobbies are masculine or not.

januaryphilosopher · 2024-04-30T12:55:13+00:00

It isn't. I don't feel feminine and don't want to. I guess I feel quite masculine but that cones from my actions rather than doing actions specifically to feel that way.

never_go_back321 · 2024-04-30T13:31:12+00:00

Don't care. What actually matters is how other people perceive you. I might think I'm the most masculine man in the world, but if everyone else doesn't see it that way, then it's moot point.

RaidenTheBlue · 2024-04-30T14:18:34+00:00

It’s funny. As a man, I’ve never felt feminine a day in my life, but I’ve occasionally been described as feminine. Less because of what I actively do (habits, behaviours, hobbies), but because of what I don’t do (a number of standardized masculine behaviours). In short, I don’t behave in a feminine way, I just don’t go out of my way to be masculine, which to some appears to be enough to get me the label.

nnuunn · 2024-04-30T14:27:26+00:00

I think if you look at the examples you provided, they're pretty much all about dating and relationships. In my day to day life, I do what I like because I like it, whether others regard it is particularly masculine or not, but it can't be like that when we're talking about dating. Generally people like to date people that make them feel especially sexually desirable, and that generally means that men like women who make them "feel like a man" and women like men who make them "feel like a woman."

-Shes-A-Carnival · 2024-04-30T14:47:29+00:00

this has never once been a thought in my mind, I just feel like me

MidoriEgg · 2024-04-30T15:25:07+00:00

I do care about feeling feminine, but I can’t tell if that’s a natural inner feeling or something imposed on my by society lol

Good-Assistant-7894 · 2024-04-30T15:36:15+00:00

It’s not something I care for. I don’t need to assign labels to behaviors, I just am

cheezits_christ · 2024-04-30T15:36:52+00:00

Not at all. I don't feel particularly feminine or masculine and most of my most pronounced interests and character traits are things that I don't think are strongly associated with either gender in particular, but probably lean toward the masculine side. Same with my style and physical presentation (I really don't feel good dressed in a traditionally feminine style, and I don't think it suits me, but my personal style is more like what a lot of more femme gay men would wear than anything else). I an a woman by default and I'm fine with that (I mean, I'm not trying to change it, but I don't love the way the world treats me because of it) but my gender does not feel innately rooted inside me in any way.

MistyMaisel · 2024-04-30T16:12:57+00:00

I enjoy feeling feminine for sure. It's a mood sometimes as dressing up girly is a time investment and not every day has the time to invest, but at least once a week, I really enjoy making time for it. And I enjoy a lot of feminine self-care routines daily.

And I like feeling feminine in comparison to my man (him being taller, stronger, holding me, snuggling) like a lot. A whole lot. That's super important to me.

EddAra · 2024-04-30T16:14:45+00:00

I don't think I really think about it. I don't walk around thinking, I'm so feminine or I'm so unfeminine. I'm just me.

serpensmercurialis · 2024-04-30T16:15:55+00:00

Not at all.

facelikethunder22 · 2024-04-30T16:17:02+00:00

Women will say that a man should lead and then ignore what he says and try to control him. Enough with the emasculation already.

waffleznstuff30 · 2024-04-30T16:26:54+00:00

Not at all.

I determine my femininity and things like that. I style do make up like to look pretty at least for me. I definitely do not subscribe to the traditional sense of femininity.

But I don't want children and think children would be the worst thing ever.

I don't like to cook or clean I do it because I'm an adult and if married my husband would likely have to help because I am not doing it for the both of us.

RubyDiscus · 2024-04-30T16:27:53+00:00

Fairly important for me. That's why I hate wearing pants and avoid it if possible. Makes me feel manly lol

TSquaredRecovers · 2024-04-30T16:40:23+00:00

In a physical/appearance sense, I am traditionally feminine in most ways. I’m petite/thin with long hair and feminine facial features, and I enjoy skincare, haircare, and makeup. I guess where I don’t conform to traditional femininity from an appearance standpoint is that I very rarely wear skirts or dresses. I‘m usually in leggings and a T-shirt or shorts and a tank top.

As far as personality and behavior goes, I’d say I’m a mix of feminine and masculine. I’m highly educated (I have a graduate degree) and have always excelled in my career. I’ve never had any interest in being a submissive partner, as I believe in equal partnerships. However, I’m also nurturing and don’t have any desire to lead or dominate anyone.

MiddleZealousideal89 · 2024-04-30T16:55:41+00:00

I rarely think about how masculine or feminine I am, tbh. I do like getting done up with a nice dress, heels, and some makeup every now and then, I like feeling pretty. But I've also been rocking short hair for the past decade, and the "lumberjack lesbian" look is super comfy, and I dress like that relatively frequently. I do what makes me feel happy with myself, that could mean slamming a few beers with my friends watching UFC, or it could be me making some pretty pink cupcakes while watching some Brad Mondo videos.

nemma88 · 2024-04-30T17:01:44+00:00

Not very. Regardless of the hobbies or activities I do, I do not feel feminine nor masculine in any. Affirmation of gender isn't a feeling I care for, therefore I do not feel it.

Affirmation on 'making it' as your gender is imo as relevant as making it in marriage or any other cultural aspirations society sets.

I've never questioned my gender. It just is.

Perfect-Resist5478 · 2024-04-30T17:24:53+00:00

I’m with you. If I want to feel sexy, I put a sexy outfit on. Otherwise, I’m feminine if I’m waxed/dressed up/made up or if I’m dirty/in sweats etc.

wtknight · 2024-04-30T17:27:15+00:00

It’s not important at all. All that’s important is doing what is necessary to attract a woman whom I’m attracted to.

PMmeareasontolive · 2024-04-30T17:44:01+00:00

This sub suddenly achieved enlightenment! Good job OP. Although in the back of my mind I'm not sure if I'm ready to believe the blue pill gym bros (for example) really have moved completely beyond gender roles. It's nice that women seem to feel less pressure to perform femininity. In this thread. In other threads they talk about how much work they put into looking feminine and how it's required for any degree of success in dating, work or life.

And it is also nice that all the dudes "don't even think about it" when in other threads they are castigated for having "little dick energy" (to this sub's credit that one has been retired for a while now). Of course, you all are still socially retarded, or are moral reprobates, for not successfully fulfilling the expected male role in society (real men do love the chase! But don't think about it! Initiate, protect, or retire forever to your basement, or join a club of other rejected men for social support.

Being over 6 feet doesn't even matter any more, no one cares. I'm so glad we finally solved the problems.

KikiYuyu · 2024-04-30T19:00:52+00:00

Being feminine has never been that important to me. I definitely want to be perceived as being female, as I was born that way and identify that way. But I don't really care about being seen as feminine.

MikeArrow · 2024-04-30T19:20:39+00:00

Being masculine isn't something I really think about too much.

I was always a thoughtful, sensitive, introverted boy, more interested in my fantasy books than real life. So I can't say I've ever really felt masculine to begin with.

I never had a strong male role model either, due to my father being, well, not mentally 100% to put it mildly.

Going to an all boys school and seeing how those alpha bros behaved made me want to be as far away from them as humanly possible.

I took my queues from wrestlers, growing up I was a big WWE fan and those guys seemed like paragons of masculinity - Bret Hart especially. He just seemed cool as a cucumber, never losing his temper unless someone really pushed his buttons, always took things in stride and just went out there and did his job in the most professional way possible. That's something to strive for. That's positive masculinity at its finest.

Ultimately, being masculine was never a huge priority for me anyway.

bloblikeseacreature · 2024-04-30T19:48:43+00:00

femininity is inherently demeaning and i want nothing to do with it, ever. if i felt feminine i would want to kms. thankfully i don't buy into it, so i don't have to live my life like an insecure Masculine Man, constantly having to watch out for accidentally doing something too girl-coded. i can just live my life like a normal person without any artificial limitations.

eyewave · 2024-04-30T21:28:33+00:00

I'm more in touch with my feminine side. I don't like to have it shut down for no good reason. M32

Sillysheila · 2024-04-30T21:37:32+00:00

Not super important. I like shaving my legs (although it’s hair removal cream) and I do a couple things people see as feminine like cooking or household/finance planning but it’s because I enjoy it not because it’s “feminine”. I have some feminine physical traits like extremely long hair, being smiley and being nurturing, having a chipmunk voice that barely broke (although I don’t use make up).

I also don’t know how important it is because I like doing things that are more the trad man stuff sometimes. I feel if I was more worried about my femininity all the time I wouldn’t be doing that. For example I like doing romantic or generous gestures. I also like spoiling my partner shopping and buying him fancy meals. I also like trying to help my partner with his problems and love to see him express stuff which apparently is a big no for attraction in the pill sphere (hasn’t really turned me off I have to say. Maybe I have to wait another 10 years for that update lol).

analt223 · 2024-04-30T23:18:38+00:00

Don't care at all about being masculine if I had a woman I'm attracted to interested in me.

MyUpSeemsDown · 2024-04-30T23:22:35+00:00

Not at all. As a guy who has experienced being both social and antisocial lock away, the main difference imo is the "feeling of masculine" is actually feeling of wanting to being seen as masculine to other people, or being called to the social expectation of being masculine as a man, which are all involved with social settings.

And in my experience it makes perfect sense to me because I never actually felt as if I felt masculine when I was antisocial and mostly by myself. Because nothing about me in 1st person perspective really invokes a "masculine vs feminine" kind of introspection. When I'm mad, I just feel mad. When I feel defiant, that's just what I feel. When I feel strong and resilient pushing myself to failure at a work out, that's not something I myself call "being masculine," it is just me feeling whatever that feeling is. It was only when in social setting that it calls to the social sense of being "masculine" as a reaction to social expectation upon an encounter, and I believe that's because it's a concept that is only relevant to society.

kalashhhhhhhh · 2024-05-01T01:38:11+00:00

I love looking feminine, but I don't think much about that in other aspects of my life.

ZenSawaki · 2024-05-01T02:37:02+00:00

It's not important.

Prudent-Conflict-557 · 2024-05-01T07:12:00+00:00

Not remotely. I do what I like.

Vaudeville_Clown · 2024-05-01T09:22:42+00:00

I couldn't cohesively define masculinity but I recognise it perfectly. I've always been able to tap into it. No shortage of good male role models in my past as it were. However, I don't want to do it.

I don't care that in many places it makes people like you better, women especially, but screw it. Long ago, I consciously took the cost of having a somewhat lower social status and a bit higher difficulty in finding dates rather than to adapt.

I basically don't think other people are worth it. If that's what they want from you, then screw 'em.

On one hand they give you undue positive treatment you don't exactly deserve and didn't even ask for. At the same time they routinely turn a 180 and cathegorically villify masculinity, and put the blame on you for their own pathetic gushing over men who can do it.

Here's a perfect example. I'm a technician and service person. It would be the easiest thing in the world for me to slightly lower my pitch of voice and don that certain attitude. It would instantly make it easier dealing with customers, as they'd instinctively trust and respect me more quickly. Yet I refuse. I like appearing as this unmanly excitable geeky optimist, and people can get fucked if they don't like that demeanor.

I guess this is a childish passive-agressive and unsocial revenge on society on my part.

just_a_place · 2024-05-01T14:48:21+00:00

If you have some sort of need to feel masculine then that is an indicator that you aren't masculine to begin with. And you're probably attempting to gain some masculinity as a supplement to balance that deficiency. The same way we take iron pills when we lack iron.

I have never had to feel masculine in my entire life. It's just what I am. I do not need to feel it because it's just inherent to my very existence.

I do things that are considered unmasculine, but this means nothing because, being masculine by nature, it does not subtract from my masculinity by simply doing these things when they are the exception to my nature. This only proves that masculinity is a standard (biological, behavioral, and social), and that exceptions exist and can be made at will without corrupting that standard.

So asking a normal man how important it is for us to feel masculine is as nonsensical as asking us how important is it for us to feel (emotionally) our blood pumping in our body. We don't feel any type of way about it. It just happens! It just is.

Accomplished-Fun489 · 2024-05-01T15:12:46+00:00

I'd consider myself relatively "metrosexual". I'm not a macho and not the most male. But I like to compliment my partner about the feminine vibes she gives me. I also like to get that reciprocated and I don't mind at all playing the role of the man. But if my partner criticizes me for not being manly enough then that's another story. I will probably cut that person out of my life as hard as it is.

wannabeabottomboi · 2024-05-01T18:14:55+00:00

I think some people tend to like to feel like they belong to certain groups or roles, and so feel validation when doing something assigned to that role. Can be feminine or masculine, or something non-gendered like religion or an aesthetic like nerd or goth.

Silver_Past2313 · 2024-05-01T18:47:43+00:00

It's the basis to sex and relationships so pretty important

ForceSensitiveRacer · 2024-05-01T21:14:25+00:00

Since I was a kid I’ve always just naturally been “masculine” and drawn to masculine hobbies. But it wasn’t something I thought about much till I became an adult and had my manhood challenged by both men and women in different scenarios. I did go through a subsequent phase where I tried to “be more masculine” because I thought that would make me more attractive to women. Things like trying to be player or being aloof. That was tiring and I found that being stereotypically macho and manly was boring. I’ve gone back to not caring and acting how I felt like regardless if it made me more feminine or not

comtezinacef · 2024-05-02T10:34:48+00:00

Personally I feel most manly when I'm giving a sloppy blowjob to another guy and he's simultaneously crushing my dick and balls with his foot against the floor, but your mileage may vary of course...

apresonly · 2024-05-02T21:16:30+00:00

0%

i dont get why people care about this? a feeling isn't going to change your chromosomes. gender isn't real.

Infinite_Street6298 · 2024-05-03T05:39:43+00:00

Imo masculinity is an obligation that I try to live up to. It's not about wanting to be "manly", it's about a sense of responsibility. If I'm physically and mentally weak, overly emotional/hysterical, unable or unwilling to learn how to do hard physical labor, unable or unwilling to use firearms, etc, then what good am I going to be when the shit hits the fan and it's time for the glorious revolution and working class uprising? Most shitlibs today couldn't even go outside for five mins without collapsing into a heap of anxiety, let alone actually get anything done. The idea that masculinity is just "doing whatever you want" is the most permissive example of guilt-free individualism I've ever seen. Men of the past would be ashamed, back when they actually stoically attacked society's problems, won two world wars, drastically improved labor rights for everyone, etc. Imagine if those generations of men had decided they'd prefer to just sit inside and play with dolls or buy funko pops or some bullshit.

TallFoundation7635 · 2024-05-05T14:31:50+00:00

I inherently gravitate towards mostly "masculine activities", like trying to get as bulked up as I can in the gym, kickboxing, racing motorcycles among other things. I don't really think nor do I care if what I do is masculine or not, I just happen to like them, although I do like operatic metal with female singers or male singers with more feminine sounding voices, so there's that.

boom-wham-slam · 2024-04-30T12:49:51+00:00

Masculinity is power. It feels good. Hell yes its basically all I care about. Being strong, successful, making money, achieving things, leading others, protecting people... I mean all that feels good.

spaffjizz · 2024-04-30T15:02:40+00:00

I dislike a lot of 'feminine' personality, such as being passive, agreable and mild mannered.

I enjoy looking feminine because I think it's attractive.

DarayRaven · 2024-04-30T13:44:02+00:00

Masculinity and femininity are not tied to gender behaviors/roles

This are abstractions

One-Preference7122 · 2024-04-30T14:01:52+00:00

I don't care, I've been described as pretty manly but I/m introverted, average height and weight, don't care about money, cars and I'm tired of women. Everyone has a different definition, women see at as something inherently toxic (that they still find attractive) more often than not and men see it as a good thing that they appreciate and respect in their friends.

berichorbeburied · 2024-04-30T13:22:49+00:00

The general consensus for what is stereotypically considered a masculine personality type/behavior/feeling

Is being strong and/or being dominant.

It could also mean be successful (winning/total victory/ect)

Loosely could be seen as being intelligent.

But usually it’s a combination of these qualities/traits/attributes

With a focus on dominance or power/strength within this combination.

Of course these traits and personalities anyone can have (except the visual physique of strength part/ect).

So it’s just the stereotypical definition that is accepted as masculine.

Which men throughout many cultures that don’t know each other adopt as the gold standard

As for women and femininity.

I can’t really answer that.

As I can only tell you what I’m attracted in a woman.

And what I see as feminine or what see/view as a woman being in her feminine element.

Simply put.

I don’t know the general consensus of women on what they feel femininity is to them.

I just know what I view as feminine and what I’m attracted to personally/individually

Necessary-Ask-3619 · 2024-04-30T13:43:17+00:00

I was someone who never gave much thought to being masculine or feminine. Just an example, I am an introverted person. So I would stay home most of the time just focused on books or movies or internet. My friends would say or even advise me that you should be masculine and I would say "I don't care if you think I am feminine". It didn't matter. Now, it doesn't matter with strangers but with people I know, I have changed and would want to be perceived masculine. Specially with women. I saw some women, who I never thought would endorse traditional gender roles, lose respect for men they knew because they did something not masculine, my "don't care attitude" began to shift. I wish I didn't care but I don't want to lose respect of people I care. For that alone, It matters to present myself masculine.

And tbh, I have come to respect masculinity a lot now. Being masculine makes me happier than I was. I was the sole provider for my parents since 2016 (and to my younger brother until 2022). It is considered the duty of a man here and honestly, I feel proud to be doing this. While, I have to come to hate the gynocentric order that burdens men with any responsibilities, taking care of my parents is one responsibility I will never deflect from.

Title	How important is "feeling masculine" or "feeling feminine" to you?
Author	Fan_Service_3703
Upvotes	20
Comments	152
Date	April 30, 2024 12:31 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1cgro9d/how_important_is_feeling_masculine_or_feeling/
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