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I think we should set up a crowd funding system. We're very restricted in how we support projects we like without exposing personal information. I'm not a programmer, but I think it would look something like this It would have to be completely anonymous on both ends. Sending and retrieving money must be possible without any ties to actual identity. I assume bitcoin can accomplish this. There needs to be public posting for jobs/objectives. Make a place where users can suggest a feature/tool/thing…
/r/TheRedPill22/05/17 02:16 PM
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Oh boy don't I wish, but I don't think it happens like that. Part of what makes platonic male male relationships work is that they are not intimate. I think our brains just switch into a different mode when dealing with an intimate partner. Intimacy puts much higher demand on both partners and wears down the independence that makes platonic friendships work.
/r/altTRP26/04/17 02:38 PM
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I'm just going to put the kibosh on this whole toxic masculinity thing. It's a nonsense term thats used exclusivity to shut men down. Everything "toxic" you can think of is really just normal essential masculine traits placed in the wrong context. Calling them toxic creates this brain deadening thought that if a man's behavior goes unchecked he'll be dangerous. It's feminist bullshit
/r/altTRP26/04/17 02:17 PM
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I don't think your question is really related to sexuality. I think you've got some things you'd like to sort out about your sex life, and I think you've got some other things you'd like to sort out about life in general. First off, why do you want to change? What are you unhappy about? Be specific about those questions with yourself. You need to have quantifiable goals to work towards. Low self esteem isn't a thing outside of safe space cuddle circles. In the real world you're either an actual …
/r/altTRP04/02/17 11:44 PM
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Mincing over whether "gay people exist" isn't instructive in any way. Gay is just a category invented to refer to people who have a certain preference. It's a little like debating whether vegetarians exist. Eating only vegetables isn't natural, it may or may not be healthy, and those who do it are not incapable of eating meat. Their reasons for excluding certain foods are impossible to pin down. Still, we know that vegetarians exist and behave in predictable manners. So to do gay men exist. Gay,…
/r/altTRP04/02/17 11:33 PM
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Interesting music, sounds like something my boyfriend would listen to. Not my cup of tea, but not objectionable either. When I listen to rock, most often while driving, it results in some drumming on my steering wheel, minor head bobbing (because lets face it, gotta keep eyes on the road), and occasionally punching the roof of my car. Good rock makes me feel energized and ready to fuck shit up. I don't always listen to rock though. I'm endlessly interested in all sorts of music and the various e…
/r/altTRP04/02/17 10:52 PM
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It's hard for me to tell how common or uncommon the dominant by nature brand is. I have only a few gay friends, and of those only one is really really dominant. Oddly, he admits that at one point while figuring out his sexuality, he wanted to bottom. My journey was very similar. We both experimented with being the receptive partners in our respective sex lives, and eventually decided being the proceptive or penetrative partner was better. As it stands, we both exclusively top. Neither of us is a…
/r/altTRP26/01/17 01:05 AM
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Yep, leave it to the straight guy to decide on something as garish as purple. Ugh, breeders, no color sense.
/r/altTRP04/01/17 01:44 AM
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Fist off, this is AltTRP, not the purple pill. Purple pill is a hellscape sub from which good men never return. People need to get their heads out of their asses with this PC bull crap. You cannot negotiate attraction, no matter how hard you try. No amount of "Big is Beautiful" campaigning is going to make a whale attractive to me unless I'm Ahab and I'm into that shit. Likewise, if I find I'm not attracted to people of a certain body type for any reason, theres not much getting around it. Skin …
/r/altTRP13/12/16 05:18 PM
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It's important to understand the reason behind the rule of not chatting on the phone. It exists because women/men-you-fuck use as a source of validation. Being constantly in contact with others makes the feel socially connected, especially if it's multiple people at once. Remember that when you text with a woman, you are one of at least five conversations she is holding at the time. Freely validating these people moves you further away from fucking them. This is not to say that you can never tex…
/r/altTRP06/12/16 11:55 PM
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The act of sex it's self is not really what's being scrutinized, it's the conditioning the sex causes that matters. Now there is some argument that men are naturally attracted to women who've had fewer partners because it increases reproductive success, I'll leave that one where it is and talk about the social side of things. Women who ride the cock carousel do not get off willingly. The only reason a woman jumps off is when she begins to feel scarcity or the need for a baby daddy. The down side…
/r/altTRP14/11/16 09:52 PM
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/U/jmottram08 pretty much said it, but I'll say it again in my own words and claim it as mine: Men can compensate for flaws by developing other aspects of their person. This bald guy listed a couple things he tried to do to compensate for his perceived short coming and then wrote them off as impossible. Well, mayeb they are or maybe they aren't. Doesn't mean he couldn't try other methods of improving his SMV. Women hit a wall because their SMV is almost entirely based on physical appearance. Bei…
/r/altTRP12/10/16 08:22 PM
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It's not the most active sub, I'll give you that, but it's not dead. We've got a core of users who come on regularly to post and comment. If you've got questions or something to say, here's the place to do it. Also, zero interest in dicks?
/r/altTRP12/10/16 08:04 PM
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To begin with, I've mostly shared your experience concerning other gay guys. At least the adults I know don't seem to make much of a fuss and certainly I haven't heard a peep of "oppression" out of the older crowd. But the younger guys, ones who have been to college in the past decade, are throughly convinced that they will be discriminated against because of their orientation. There are boogie men lurking about waiting for their chance to give poor meek gay guys unequal treatment. It's not even…
/r/altTRP29/09/16 06:06 PM
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I think the term you're looking for is intersectionality.
/r/altTRP29/09/16 05:57 PM
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Hey, I'm still new at this click bate thing, but "quotation marks" don't sell newspapers. As for the origin of the Trump is racist meme, you're probably right in saying it was a media narrative first. But I still point the finger as SJWs because they created the racism witch hunt in the first place. They are the target demographic when the news tries to oust somebody as being racist, ect.
/r/altTRP29/09/16 05:54 PM
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It is interesting that frat bros are touted as the poster children for "modern masculinity". Fact is, they're a small group. They're not greatly representative of anything on a larger scale. Yet they seem to get all the hate. Not sure what the drive behind that is. Perhaps it's because they're easy to hate. There seems to be a sort of rationalization at play. If gay guys don't feel like they can act masculine, than acting masculine isn't a good thing in the first place.
/r/altTRP28/09/16 09:02 PM
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There are two very valid points that you bring up: Bottoms have a shorter shelf life, and being masculine is intrinsically rewarding. As for bottoms having a shorter shelf life, I think that just comes with the territory. Youth and beauty are the main selling points of a good bottom and those cannot really be held onto in old age. The counter to this is getting into an LTR early to ensure sexual access even after the beauty well has dried up. As for the self fulfilled older tops, of course they'…
/r/altTRP16/06/16 02:23 PM
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Even an exclusively bottom guy is still a man And yet they fall so thoroughly into the feminine roll that it would be easier to not think of them as men. Bottoms behave like women where it counts; in their sexual strategy. Countering a bottom/feminine strategy with a masculine one just works. Don't fall into the trap of thinking that you will not be subject to the shit tests, emotion-based thinking, and PMS just because your partner is male
/r/altTRP16/06/16 02:14 PM
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There's not much to go on here. Tell us more about yourself and what you're looking for. For your basic man starter kit, read "way of men" and "androphilia"
/r/altTRP14/04/16 04:27 PM
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blanket statements regarding gays is hogwash. the definition of the word itself is nebulous I apologize for the short hand. In full I should have written "Same sex oriented males who utilize largely feminine sexual strategies". Often it's just shortened to faggots. I don't think the men reading this sub have too much confusion over the issue as most of them are intimately familiar with the type of individual I'm writing about. I could call them lemmings and the readership would still understand …
/r/altTRP13/04/16 05:00 PM
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If you haven't read it, I heavily recommend Way of Men by Jack Donovan. It's a very succinct description of the foundation of masculinity. The problem with homophobia, as any phobia, is that it's an undiscerning reaction to stimuli. It's like acrophobia. The reason it's a phobia and not just a fear of venomous little fuckers that will kill you is because it does not discern between a real threat and a harmless spider. So too, homophobia on RP does not discern between gay men and faggots. I don't…
/r/altTRP13/04/16 02:46 AM
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freedom is abridged whenever the government attempts to level a playing field. I use public accommodation and accessibility acts as the bench mark here because they're already in place. The goal of these rules and regulations is to ensure that we don't purposefully or inadvertently create a second class of citizens who are unable to interface with the mainstream. In the case of handicapped people, they would never be able to enter any store if there weren't some standards to make it physically p…
/r/altTRP07/04/16 07:39 PM
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youth homelessness, drug use, STD's those are internal problems that would be hard to sell as the result of oppression (Yeah, I know they've already tried). Thats why those aren't the focus of any major effort. Sure there's a few groups that work on the youth stuff and safe sex education, but they pale in comparison to the activist wing.
/r/altTRP07/04/16 02:00 PM
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The free speech argument is one I've always though was clever. Though if I recall, the photographer that employed that defense lost. The judge ruled that a product is not speech or some such. On the other hand when money is involved, speech gets a little less free. We already accept that speech in the form of advertisement must adhere to certain criteria. You can't make false claims when you're selling a product. You also can't put a protest sign up that blocks a handicap ramp at your own busine…
/r/altTRP07/04/16 01:56 PM
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Congratulations you gay gay homosexual! You touched a dick and now you are forever gay. Labels are just shortcuts you can use to quickly explain something to others if you so choose. At the end of the day gay, bi, or straight are just actions. You might be with other men again, you might not, so don't worry about picking a camp. Limited and specific interest in porn is normal too. Frankly gay porn is kinda shitty. It's mostly geared to the beta gay market so it's chalk full of stuff more masculi…
/r/altTRP21/03/16 01:12 AM
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When I say off the fence, I talking primarily about Bi men. Men who have an option other than women are increasingly taking it.
/r/TheRedPill17/12/15 10:19 PM
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Thats of course the other side of the coin. Some people get caught up on rigidly defining sexuality as gay or straight while others dive far too deep into the "it's a continuum, man". I have no doubt that there are straight guys that would let a gay guy suck their dick. I also know that there are guys who legitimately would not get aroused enough to find it pleasurable. What I see increasingly is that people on both sides are unable to fathom the experience of the other. Everyone has become conv…
/r/TheRedPill17/12/15 06:48 PM
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From what you've said here and else where it sounds like you've got more of a hedonistic streak through when it comes to sexual relations. Is the white picket fence and house "wife" thing appealing to you at all?
/r/TheRedPill17/12/15 06:31 PM
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It's an area with lots of speculation and very little discernible fact, but there seems to be a general agreement that feminism is pushing some men off the fence in the direction of men. This comes either in the form of men who are already bisexual neglecting the female half of their attractions or, more interestingly, straight men accepting sex from gay men. There was a discussion on this topic some time ago where a number of guys detailed that relative ease with which they could convince strai…
/r/TheRedPill17/12/15 06:18 PM
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It's a lie, he lives in a studio.
/r/TheRedPill17/12/15 06:01 PM
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the structural unfairnesses visited upon men in society are even more unjust when applied to gays because we don't have skin in the reproductive game. Thats an interesting perspective on it, though I think that increasingly even straight men don't have as much skin in the reproductive game. I'm guessing more than half of the people on TRP consider it too risky to ever consider having children. In a way, the feminist culture is great because it's driving some guys to abandon women and try men, bu…
/r/TheRedPill17/12/15 05:44 PM
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Thats advice for life right there.
/r/TheRedPill17/12/15 05:23 PM
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I’m from /r/AltTRP, a small sub where the not-so-straight come to talk shop about sexual strategy. One of the topics that is recurrent both on the sub and in my own personal experience is the feminization of gay men. There seems to be a trend of gay men following what would otherwise be feminine sexual strategies and falling into the same psychological pitfalls that are common amongst women. Often individual guys are just dismissed as queeny or particularly effeminate, but I don’t think it’s a m…
/r/TheRedPill17/12/15 05:04 PM
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Ain't that just the way. Unfortunately, he sounds like a number of young gay men I've met who develop a bit of a distain for hetero men. This manifests in a camp gay superiority complex : "oh honey, how did you even dress your self before you met your wife". That's a hard pattern to break because male groups seen monolithic and exclusive to the uninitiated. For a place to start he may benefit from reading Jack Donovan's way of men. Androphilia, by the same, is directed at gay men so also worth a…
/r/altTRP16/12/15 05:35 PM
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Learn to show attraction in an appropriate manner. If you're unsure of how to do this, look at fiction. Lots of it. Fiction, while not reality, is a projection of what people would like to see. Analyse the seuxal dynamics between men and women, between men and men, find role models that you like. When attraction is high, it's almost simple stupid to escalate to sex. They're doesn't have to be a prolonged game of cat and mouse, many men are direct and to the point if they are into something. Work…
/r/altTRP15/12/15 09:04 PM
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Ultimately coming to terms with the realities of the sexual market is vital to success. That being said, it sounds like you're looking for a resource to get your brother's head out of his ass. Unfortunately, advice is only useful to those who are ready to take it. If he's stuck in purple land a bunch of guys on the internet aren't going to change that. Honestly, I think the biggest social issue with gay guys these days is they don't engage in normal male groups. Being a part of a team, club, or …
/r/altTRP15/12/15 08:55 PM
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You've got to be pretty high SMV to us the sit and look pretty strategy. And even then, you're probably not going to get the best options out of it. Being proactive is not such a bad thing. What matters is how you play your cards once you're one on one with a prospective partner. I'm talking from the other side of the fence here, mind you. The guys I've found most attractive have been the ones that play along with the dominance game. When they let me play my part and they play theirs things go g…
/r/altTRP13/12/15 01:06 AM
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First you've got to identify what type of engagment you're looking for, be it strictly sex or LTR stuff. This will determine a lot of your game. Next you've got to decide what kind of partners you're attracted to. You mention not liking the rainbow brigade, so I'm guessing you gravitate towards the more straight acting males. Since you've identified your preference for bottoming you're going to need to play to the role. A good top is going to occupy the masculine/dominant energy of a sexual enco…
/r/altTRP12/12/15 10:45 PM
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Except the whole lgbt thing is annoying as fuck. They keep adding letters in hopes to be as inclusive as possible. Still, I agree it's a fun play on words/acronyms.
/r/altTRP01/11/15 02:58 PM
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Well, think about the men you've known. My anecdotal experience is that more top leaning men tend to have substantial life achievement. If course there is a selection bias as I categorize these men as tops because of those traits. I could conjecture that their competitive nature is not due to their sexual dominance but rather visa versa.
/r/altTRP30/09/15 11:55 PM
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I don't imagine there's going to be a huge in flux of people interested in meeting up.
/r/altTRP16/09/15 01:33 AM
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A condom is effective at stopping most STDs. Mostly. Bottoming is riskier than topping. Oral is not risk free. Women are not risk free either. Staying on the DL is fine. Grinder is full of guys like that. I wont promote nor condemn promiscuous behavior. It sounds to me like you're looking for someone to give you the go ahead to hook up in the bushes with a bear. That's all on you. Don't let the logistics of it be an excuse not to do it. Make a choice about what you want and pursue that.
/r/altTRP07/09/15 01:28 AM
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First allow me to expose my ignorance on the subject of transgender. I as a male do not understand the sensation of being another gender. I don't even particularly believe I experience a sensation of being my own gender. I take my maleness as matter-of-fact as I do my species. I don't have any frame of reference for what being another species would feel like, so there is no sensation of being human. From my reading I have come to understand that there are neurological underpinnings to both homos…
/r/altTRP07/09/15 01:14 AM
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Analyzing and discussing things women do is the reason we're all here on this sub. If being awesome is all it takes, then I don't see why you're here.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/15 03:41 PM
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Saying that your last relationship ended because the guy was asking questions like when you'd be home is ridiculous Of course it seems like a reasonable thing. That is the nature of manipulation, it's covert. This guy's purpose in asking about when I would be home was not to learn what my intentions were, but rather to make his disapproval of being out at all known in a way that could not be directly confronted. Any response to his question would lead to a negative reaction. The only placating c…
/r/altTRP19/07/15 05:28 PM
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I'm not sure stripping away the context is the important lesson here. While I'd be well enough concerned if someone even joked about cutting my dick off, I wouldn't value it as a high likelihood. What is of concern is her attitude that she has a claim to anything. She used his genitalia as a metaphor but the message was about commitment. She wanted it and thought a hard line approach would be successful. That is the red flag, not the allusions to severing his member. You're on to something with …
/r/TheRedPill18/07/15 08:17 PM
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Female strategy and behavior are the same thing. Women don't act the way they do just to be bitches. It works for them. It gets them what their biology tells them they need. My last LTR ended because the guy was honestly pulling the "When will you be home from the bar, honey?" schtick. It wasn't because he wanted to act like a nagging women, it was because he felt powerless and afraid and that's how women express those emotions. He tried to gain compliance and commitment from me by guilting me. …
/r/altTRP18/07/15 04:36 PM
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I'm increasingly of the belief that the masculine sub does not exist. There are varying degrees of effeminate, but there will always be the trace of female behavior in the places that matter. I don't say this in a sour grapes sort of way (Though the pursuit has wasted a good deal of my time and energy). I say this because I think it's functionally impossible. The dom/sub and masc/fem dynamics that we talk about here exist in the way light/dark or north/south do. Its not necessarily that gay men …
/r/altTRP18/07/15 03:53 PM
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Well in the rest of law enforcement world, the person who calls the cops is the de facto victim until proven otherwise. Moral of the story is: call rape on the girl before she can call it on you.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/15 03:00 AM
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Yes, there were some threads on seducing straight men. They're some of the really early ones.
/r/altTRP25/05/15 03:15 PM
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An important distinction needs to be made about the "labeling" of men dominant or subordinate. These terms are relative. They don't describe a man's nature, but rather his position in reference to any other particular man. Between most men the difference in power is minor or undefined. A boss only has so much power over an employee. Two men meeting on the street have not established who is stronger. Still, it is the way of men to form hierarchy amongst themselves. Within groups men spar and taun…
/r/altTRP25/05/15 03:07 PM
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Look at this subreddit. It’s purple. Why is it purple? First off, The actual purple pill is something entirely unrelated. This is not the purple pill, this is AltTRP. Not a tremendous amount of meaning sits behind the color of the sub's banner. All the official TRP network subs follow a color code and purple is what was left. I'd have preferred green. Copying the main concept led to the decision that there should be some sort of equivalent tot he[sp] original concept of swallowing a pill. The re…
/r/altTRP24/05/15 06:27 PM
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The comments section is almost as worth a read as the article itself. I've never seen the idea of social pressure presented as a reason for the preservation of a gene before. I have to say I'm rather skeptical of that one, but it's at least plausible.
/r/altTRP05/05/15 02:07 AM
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You're looking or major change in yourself which is majorly difficult. You've identified the issues and yet you continue to commit the same errors which leads me to believe there is some level of validation seeking behavior involved here. First, identify the results you don't like. I.e. "I don't like being used". Next identify the ways in which you are coming to that unwanted result. I.e "I give rides when there is no quid pro quo". Last mediate on why you you desire to behave in that manner. Be…
/r/altTRP06/04/15 03:41 AM
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Pretty straight forward advice. Hit the gym/ build value. I definitely agree with that. I think gay men more than others may get sucked into the 'culture' too far to realize that there are other things outside it. The oddest thing I've heard in passing is the idea of "straight boy logic" or shooting down an idea by calling it "straight". This is, in my mind, akin to black youths being afraid of acting "white" by getting good grades in school. Be a man first. Build value because that's what you d…
/r/altTRP06/04/15 03:30 AM
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What do you mean by socratic element?
/r/altTRP30/03/15 08:46 PM
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The terms alpha an and beta do get thrown around a lot on TRP and are not always used in their exact proper context. Alpha/beta refers to male sexual strategies. Best remembered by alpha-fucks beta-bucks, the two strategies are using raw sexual appeal to attract a mate and using material and provisional power to attract a mate. Beta does not necessarily mean being submissive or clueless as it's come to be know. It is true however that dominant men tend to get away with being alphas and submissiv…
/r/altTRP03/03/15 04:03 PM
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Very good on all points, my only addition here would be in regards to the authority bit. The negotiation of authority is a process that all individuals who interact more than briefly must undergo and it is never overly communicated. That is to say that unless made aware, most people do no know that such a dynamic has been settled on. /u/should_ has wrote more succinctly on the matter when he described the dynamic as the oak tree and the monkey. The dominant partner establishes his authority in t…
/r/altTRP19/02/15 05:59 PM
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I think I'm confused by your question, or at least by the way you're asking it. It seems like you're describing yourself as very average and wanting to know if there is a point when the flow of sex will stop. Being an attractive straight man can be broken down into three elements - Physical, Psychological, and financial. The ideal man is a master of all three, but most have their strengths and weaknesses. Now attraction is a more complicated game between gay men. You must decide where you are go…
/r/altTRP31/12/14 10:35 PM
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What you have is layers upon layers of bad voodoo. First off, marriage is statistically a bad deal. Doesn't matter who or what you are. Then theres the fact that Lesbians have a higher than general population divorce rate [citation needed]. Then you have the issue of codependency. Of course this is all fairly normal for a couple going into marriage. Lets face it, smart people don't get caught up in this stuff so easily. The problem is not your sister getting married to the wrong person, it's the…
/r/altTRP15/12/14 08:01 AM
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I hear he is currently in Liberia solving Ebola.
/r/altTRP15/12/14 06:39 AM
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