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Wearing a muscle shirt, wearing better clothes. What?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:23 PM
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Why are you trying to change her mind anyway? She already said no or showed no interest. Stop trying to convince people to have sex with you. Its that easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:46 PM
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Women are capable of changing their mind. The issue is if it comes freely or is manipulated
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:44 PM
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Manipulation. Again. We are talking about a situation in which a woman doesn't want to have sex with someone. Then he tells her something to manipulate her choice. There you go
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:18 PM
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Social doesn't mean partnered.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:50 AM
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If you have to use a strategy to get someone to have sex with you that they declined, that is coercion. Rape seems to be a trigger word for men which is why its not used in these studies. There is actually a conversation about how men are saying they aren't rapists but when you describe things that are rape without using the word they are agreeing to doing that. A lot of people don't understand that rape isn't a stranger dragging someone into a bush via force. But I am not suprised this is a pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:47 AM
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If being single is horrible, they are doing it wrong. Create a better life without needing another human to subsidised it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:30 AM
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Finally, when you actually check the questions as they researchers are being deliberately deceptive, this is what they actually asked: "In the past four years, how many times have you used any of the following strategies to get (or try to get) a woman to have some type of sex when she did not want to have sex or acted like she did not want to have sex? How is that deceptive or any different? They are still not respecting her consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:29 AM
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The fact that this is consistently downplayed as "harmless flirting" and "grey area" makes it even more disgusting. All of your "grey area" points are completely nullified by the fact that this study specifically says these guys knew they are convincing a woman to have sex with them despite her resistance. And I'm honestly tired of men excusing this kind of rape culture as harmless flirting. And no. The Alpha bros are not universally condemned. They keep indoctrinating younger men into the minds…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:27 AM
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They do care, they just don't want to have to go through or deal with all negitive realities of trying to date. Having to be a jester and shell out a bunch of time and money just to have a negative outcome by the end of it, and being burned so much that you just grow tired of it Then don't. If everything around dating is so horrible for men, then stop doing that. Its that easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:05 AM
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Overall, 95.1% reported having recently used at least one of the strategies to get a woman to have sex who they knew did not want sex and had not consented. They used at least one of these strategies to get a woman they knew didn't want to have sex and didn't consented to it, to change her mind the average number ever used was 8.94. On average they used 9 of these 36 strategies. Its not even that they asked multiple times and then left. No. They moved from strategy to strategy to get her to have…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:59 AM
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And women aren't cars or cheeseburgers either but apparently the only way to make some men understand these concept is to use analogies with objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:20 AM
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Its about time we stop this manufactured breeding craziness. We are already like pigs in a slaughter house. Breeding for the "elite". The wolfs are worried the sheep aren't multiplying anymore. Declining birth rates is a good thing. It shows the errors in the system and forces people to open their eyes to them to hopefully address it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:10 AM
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So no more denial about men's selection? Thought so.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:06 AM
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Men call that "dumpster diving". So yeah. They also don't really care about women. A lot of men are obsessed with the idea of replacing women with robots. They actually hate women. They just enjoy the sexual gratification they get out of getting with women. Yes women are more selective. That doesn't automatically mean their selection is perfect. Lots of people are scammed by a fake designer bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:15 AM
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If you can't have a civil conversation without being insulting, you aren't worth having a conversation at all. Bye
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:04 AM
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Nobody is forcing men to do that. This is a free choice for themselves. They are creating their own hell by making women feel like cheeseburgers and then wonder why women don't jump at the opportunity to be treated as such. Men trap themselves in these issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:58 AM
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Men's attention is generic. They would have sex with anything. So obviously it doesn't feel special to women. It feels more like being an animal in a zoo and having visitors taking pictures of you. It doesn't make you feel special. It doesn't make you feel like you are someone they are actually attracted to. It makes you just one of many. Like a McDonald's cheeseburger. Women on the other hand are selective. They will review a guy like a very expensive special designer bag. Women will look at it…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:20 AM
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Do you think the draft is acceptable if you get women as a prize for potentially being drafted into a war? Do you think the fact that most wars are created by other men and offer women as a potential prize to be handed over to men to fight in the war men create is a fair deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:08 PM
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Its not just about making your interest known. A stalker can make their interest known, thats doesn't mean they are building anything with the person they are attracted to. But in general - yeah. How would you know someone actually wants to invest into a relationship with you if they don't show up for the relationship? If they only pop up randomly you have a fuckbuddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:01 PM
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Consistency builds intimacy and safety. These are necessary for arousal for a lot of women. Sure the exciting guy that is flaky can be a thrill but for someone that wants to feel save and low cortisol that wont lead to long term results. On of the things I really love about my husband is that he calls me every single day during his lunch break just to spend like 10 minutes on the phone with me. Even if we don't have much to talk about it is a routine that makes me feel valued and prioritised. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:46 PM
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Exactly. So everyone needs to suck it up with the complaints about "dates feel like job interviews" and actually put in some actual thought, honesty and boundaries in, before everyone wastes their time and feels used. It might not be what we used to understand as "romance" but that is obviously not working
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:54 AM
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I did. So that statement is objectively false
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:51 AM
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As long as "courtship is nebulous and vibe-based" abusers and manipulators will always have a excuse and plausible deniability. This is why the conversation about informed consent, only yes means yes and coercion is so important. All of this needs to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:33 AM
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It is the pretending of something else to get consent to have sex, that is the issue. Did the guy afterwards said he doesn't want to be with her anymore because of the yoshi tattoo? Did he stopped when he saw it or did he still have sex with knowing he would not keep going. Thats not revoking consent. Thats using someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:15 AM
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Who says the guy can't revoke consent? He can. There is a difference between finding out someone pretended to be something else to have sex with you vs. being incompatible after having sex. Why is consent such a difficult topic around here?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:21 AM
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So nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:25 AM
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Show me the study
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:46 AM
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Do I need to post the coercion study again? Consent achieved under false facts isn't consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:40 AM
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You can obviously buy your way out of being an incel. You can buy your way out of jail. If that's what you want, no big deal. Thats why I said in my top comment - transactional people will find other transactional people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:18 AM
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True. There is a bar. For both looks and personality. Most men fail at the personality bar. Most people date in their own society economic group anyway. But I agree that being content with being single should always be the normal state. Instead of being bitter and hateful that someone doesnt want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:26 AM
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Chad and hypergamy are just boogeyman for unselected men that try to find excuses for who they are unselected. And instead of self reflecting and realising they are believing the lies that other men tell them about what women want, they rather live in a delusion where its not their own short comings that prevent them from being in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:11 AM
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Who are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:56 PM
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What men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:47 PM
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Lol. Did you actually read the study or are you just pasting it in hopes nobody is actually going to read it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:45 PM
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Its also not even true btw. Yeah, women are the primary grocery shoppers but that doesnt really mean much anyway because on average men consume more calories than women, because of their caloric needs. Also: Women tend to spend more on personal care products, healthcare, housing, and transportation, while men spend more on new vehicles, tobacco, and alcohol. Women alao spend more on clothes. But when we keep in mind that womens clothing tends to be more expensive and cheaper quality than men's i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:45 PM
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Always spending on material goods and dinner. Those damn womens spending money on things and food! How dare them! Grrr Anyway. Lots of women will happily date the guys that aren't completely obsessed with the power dynamic in a relationship based on money. The ones that are transactional will still find other transactional people. The ones that don't care about this kind of transactional relationship will find each other. Also. Give it a hot minute. Women just managed to catch up on education an…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:03 PM
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Or, hear me out, instead of painting everything with a generalisation brush, we could maybe accept that people aren't one homogeneous mass. So there is no hivemind for all women. There is no hivemind for all older women. There is no hivemind for all younger women. Etc. Maybe we need to zoom in and focus on the one person we are actually trying to engage with instead of trying to stereotype everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:15 PM
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Back in the day the Internet was cat videos, telling people about your day and some DIY tutorials. Now its hate speech of people that have no credentials promoted by tech oligarchs because controversy generates more money. None of this is helpful for society and humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:11 PM
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Yeah. A disclaimer should be the least that could be done. And actually thinking about what kind of message is promoted including potential consequences instead of just spouting advice to sell courses, dating coach lessons, crypto and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 01:53 PM
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Content creators need to realise they dont act in a vacuum but a ecosystem. The times of "I am putting a little helpful video out there with some current trending tags" and then assuming it won't have consequence are over. Thats not how algorithms work anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:55 PM
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RP is not just "a little pick and then leave". It is a system that is designed to drag you in and keep you. I watched reels of a transguy explaining he just wanted to watch some videos of how to tie a tie. Then he started getting videos recommend on how to improve his dating life. And that led him down the road to hating women. Thats how indoctrination works. And RP starts especially with young guys that don't even recognise what is happening to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:18 PM
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The mistake is the idea that these guys actually want love. They don't. They get off on power. Women are just one tool used to fuel their power driven ego. Women are part of their validation from other men to feel like they actually have value. They are deeply insecure, self hating people that feel like they have no worth in this world. It has nothing to do with love.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:54 AM
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I didn't want to have children. So a potential partner that wanted to have children was a disqualifier. That doesn't make them bad. They can find someone that wants to have that. It just doesn't align with my idea of a relationship and how I want my life to look like. That's not negative or positive. Its just incompatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:44 AM
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Tbf. They don't even treat women they are attracted to as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:05 AM
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My step dad is too lazy to eat properly. If my mom doesn't cook for him he just doesn't eat. If he looks like he lost weight, my parent's friends ask my mom why she isn't taking care of him or if she is starving him. The bar is not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:42 AM
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Looks thread is gonna get nuked
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:58 AM
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Yeah. This whole assumption of everyone being on the same page is so immature. And suddenly you are 6 month in with someone that wants to have a white picked fence and three kids or just wants to have a short term fling before they are moving to Japan or something and then the heartbreak is real when you notice you are incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:19 PM
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I am glad the Vtubers can do the same jobs male streamers do but still have a protective layer of anonymity. We know how some people get with their parasocial relationships. So anonymity tends to be important. If people want to jerk it to anime cat girls, thats up to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:42 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:31 AM
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Do you understand why?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:08 AM
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You are aware there is a difference between being angry at a stranger not having sex with you vs. Wanting longer sessions with a person you are already having consentual sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:54 AM
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My favourite part is: "this person wants more sex with me. Thats 🍇"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:00 AM
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Is this a try to reverse engineer the "orgasm gap" into premature ejaculation?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:13 AM
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Commenting for later to read replies
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:20 AM
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And this is why everyone need to have the conversation about what they expect out of a relationship extremely early on. No covert contracts. None of this "dragging along" because you just assume you are on the same page when you haven't even talked about it. One of the very first conversations I had with my husband was what we expect our relationship to look like. I told him explicitly that I am not going to have children and if he wants that he needs to find someone else. No beating around the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:54 AM
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I am being selfish with my answer: No. It took me too long to be comfortable with my gender identity as a woman to say I want to get rid of it. I enjoy dressing feminine. I enjoy "girly" things and expressing my gender in a way that is seen as positive by society. I do wish gender norms weren't as strict as they are. Especially for men. But I also like when men dress in suits and show off their manly bodies. I also like when women wear things that are gender conformative. I like when pretty wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:41 AM
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Yes. And they will say "I just need to vent". But when you let men vent and show compassion/sympathy they will tell you it was useless since you dont offer advice, or saying it doesnt help them or they dont want to hear useless platitudes. Women will vent together and agree with each other about their grievance or just rage with each other. And then they will feel better. Thats not the same with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:19 PM
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Yes. And they will say "I just need to vent". But when you let men vent and show compassion/sympathy they will tell you it was useless since you dont offer advice, or saying it doesnt help them or they dont want to hear useless platitudes. Women will vent together and agree with each other about their grievance or just rage with each other. And then they will feel better. Thats not the same with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:19 PM
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I have experienced that when men complained and I offered either compassion or advice it was not received well. I was told "you don't understand", "you don't know what you are talking about", "that doesn't help", "I can't do that", etc. Basically every suggestion or feedback for the complaint was rejected. At some point I kind of gave up. I won't force my help on someone that clearly doesn't want it. That is a waste of energy and time. Instead I focus and invest in people that are open to either…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:39 PM
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I can imagine having sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:23 PM
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Hookups: are they attractive enough? Are they willing to have sex? Am I horny? Relationships: a much longer list that includes the hookup criteria but has muuuuch more points.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:22 PM
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Men are 7-11 years behind women in psychological development? Where is that coming from?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:48 AM
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I do believe there are women that do that. Not at the same rate as men but there are. I assume its similar to the violence distribution rate of men vs women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:39 PM
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That debate was such a shitshow. I could only watch some clips of it because it hurt my brain too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:42 PM
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If we use OPs definition of "women would be happier if they had a child" then yes, thats just selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 11:38 AM
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Personal advice posts aren't allowed on here. This is a debate sub
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:50 AM
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If you disagree, you can debate why. If you don't want to debate you don't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:51 AM
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Kind of yes. But personally I don't think anyone needs to friends with someone based on the gender. The more important part is if they hold everyone accountable and to up to the same standard despite the gender. You don't even need to have friends for that. If you tell someone a story about another person and they have a different opinion on the behaviour in the story based on the gender, thats a red flag. If a guy holds too much onto the "women are wonderful" effect because he puts women on a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:49 AM
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Read the title. Its not that complicated
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:41 AM
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Most men just want a highly trained emotional support animal that they can have sex with. They don't even like women. Its a wonder our species has survived for this long once we started to talk to each other and could understand each other. The only reason humans are this overpopulated now with the mindset men bring is because they enslaved women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 06:08 AM
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I am a bit of an outlier because I am a antinatalist. So my opinion will seem more radical. But for real - have you looked at the world lately? I think it is incredibly unethical, selfish and abusive to bring another human into this. If I had a child just to "be happy" it would absolutely be the wrong decision. And I think it is a disgusting idea to value your own happiness over the potential horrors you are sending another human into.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:57 AM
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Lying to get sex from someone is manipulation. If you use manipulation to get sex from someone its coercion
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:38 AM
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Does this idea of "coercion" apply elsewhere? If a car salesman embellishes a car's feature to me, was I "coerced" ? Yes. You are even allowed to cancel contracts if you can proof you have been manipulated
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:37 AM
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Does that count for men too that say all women are shitty when they take just any woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:35 AM
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I sometimes do. I say things like "I've already told you how I think about this". But again. Certain topics are a recurring thing and sometimes he just needs to vent. So I let him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:34 AM
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I don't want any lies. And I don't expect any man to accept lies. 0 lies is the acceptable amount of lies. The only time you could say I am "lying" to my husband is if we have a conversation about something we had multiple times before that he is frustrated about and I voiced my opinion/advice/etc about it before. But don't say it again because I am aware it is not helping him, or he doesn't need to hear it again because he already knows my opinion about it, or he isn't in the right mindset for …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:25 PM
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The personal aspect speaks about how you view dating as a whole and with which goal. If you personally define dating as lying and using to achieve a certain goal then that would be fair according to you and you shouldn't have an issue with that. Maybe OP should've clarified her definition of "dating" because apparently it seems to be a difficult concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:51 PM
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So for you lying and using is a part of dating. Is that your goal in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:44 PM
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Is lying and using someone included in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:37 PM
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Isn't it fascinating that when the topic is "what do you bring to the table" you equate it with "using you for sex and lying". Is that what men bring to the table in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:33 PM
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If you believe that, I can't help you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:04 PM
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Are women telling men they are the hottest men ever in an attempt to only have sex with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:59 PM
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I think what is seen as "unfair" is that women get to have a choice at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:47 PM
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Again. Words have meanings.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 11:49 AM
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Word have meanings. Two words aren't synonyms just because you try to portray them as such. Sexual arousal, attraction and interest are all different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:14 AM
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"Just ignore her no and hope she settles for you if you convince/pester her long enough" Pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:44 AM
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Nope. Lying to get sex is not a difference of opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:35 AM
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Can you see make up with your eyes? Even without talking to the woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:55 AM
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Someone that lies to get sex? Yeah. It actually makes it pretty difficult to trust someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:45 AM
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But nobody is home
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:00 AM
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You asked about spontaneous sexual arousal for a stranger. That is not the same as getting interested in a man and then responding to that interested with sexual arousal. Men keep conflating being interested in someone with instant sexual arousal. Just because it happens for men at the same time doesn't mean it happens for women at the same time. Sexual arousal for a lot of women is a reaction to more than just physical aspects. Men need to pop up for women as people before they become sexual ob…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:32 AM
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Teach your eyes to see the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:25 AM
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I saw a IG post about a female babysitter that SAed the toddlers. In the comments were guys saying "can she babysit me?"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:32 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:29 AM
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Thats okay. We all make sacrifices. You are also not allowed to drive a car without a license even if you would like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:15 AM
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It is a bit dystopian that we are at a point where it seems to be necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:59 PM
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Oh yeah. I agree. I personally know people that are like "I'm actually not eating that much and its not that bad". Then I explain how much calories bread and olive oil has. Doing that after calculating the TDEE is usually a shock for them. They tend to be very suprised by the density of very tiny portions and the calories. But yeah. Obviously thats not the only thing you need to do. I always struggled with my calories and weight and felt like I was a failure. Turned out - pcos and insulin resist…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:23 PM
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There can be underlying reasons for people to be fat. Then its not just "you need to eat less" it is also "you need to figure out what is making losing weight more difficult for you". Sometimes you actually need to get to the root and not just blame it on them. Making people feel shit about themselves usually doesn't help them lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:01 PM
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Somebody would definitely make money of it already 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:55 PM
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True. AI isn't really good with that. But again. I don't think one date is enough to really zoom in on the issues and everything. It would have to be a whole package deal over multiple dates and situations with almost a team behind it doing a proper analysis of how to improve. And that would be incredibly expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:36 PM
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I guess the closes thing is a dating coach but they aren't really doing the dating properly. And then again it would need to be very very vague because not every woman is the same. You can only correct so many things. This is why you kind of need a "trial partner" to really figure that out and that is almost like sugar dating at that point. But the sugar babes aren't really honest. That is obviously the issue with real people. And a "trial partner" could be incredibly dangerous again. Especially…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:48 PM
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Personally I think this is a great thing. Especially because it could really help anxious people train. We have training programmes for everything. Driving cars, working jobs, we go to schools to learn... why not dating? I think a robot would also be a better thing that a human because they could be more objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:24 PM
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Ohhh. I wanna be a bit more dystopian hypothetical! How about we introduce a relationship test. Like a drivers license. Everyone get a robo partner that teaches you how to properly behave in a relationship and at the end of that phase you get a evaluation and a score. If you fail you have to improve. If you pass you are allowed to date humans. And even if you pass you get like recommendations how to improve. Almost like they used to do back in the day when you were supposed to learn how it is to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:40 PM
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So male morale is men exercising their power. Their power to do what?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:39 PM
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But the unhinged stuff is the most fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:26 PM
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I agree. I am just curious what you think is male morale
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:25 PM
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Username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:47 PM
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Ah. I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:34 PM
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Real men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:31 PM
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Another question! Isnt in your description "male morale" basically the exact thing that Rollo is accusing women about? men must be freed from the unconscious, knee-jerk expression of their protective instincts before they can deal with women in a way that maximizes their benefit rather than that of a stranger. A world dominated by feminism (and feminist-incentivized traditional conservatism) is a world where men prioritize the interests of women, and women prioritize the interests of themselves.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:47 AM
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Religion was basically created by men. How is it womens fault that it corrupted "male morale"? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:01 AM
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They won't. If it doesn't fit in their world view its wrong, evil or broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:00 AM
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You are having an imaginary conversation with another commentor as a response to my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:21 AM
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Men still don't understand that womens arousal is different than mens. For women there needs to be a baseline of attraction to feel open to further engage with a man. The baseline is actually pretty easy to pass. But the baseline doesn't trigger arousal. Womens attraction is holistic instead of just visual. Attraction is a combination of multiple aspects of a person instead of just the visual. Women are less objectifying than men. So while a woman can walk through her life and even think "he is …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:16 AM
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What does that have to do with my explanation for why men are more likely to be homeless? Are you saying society pressures men to spend more money on personal items which turns them into homeless?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:07 AM
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Men fall more into extremes in any category. Addiction, violence, etc. Mostly because men are much more risk taking than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:51 AM
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And women are shamed for leaving an abusive husband because "they are breaking a family apart!" Who cares? People will always find a reason to shame you. If you stay you are a doormat and beta, if you leave you are insecure and loved here. People are idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:17 PM
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Whats more important? How other people view you or making two people unhappy by staying in a relationship that makes you unhappy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:14 PM
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I know. I wanted the commentator to do the research themselve. They never do...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:40 PM
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First of all: sex isn't supposed to be a favour one gives to another. That mindset is really disgusting and needs to stop. Second: what is insulting about that? Why is this a dick measuring contest? If you are unhappy with what you have, leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:30 PM
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Its is a immediate thing. If I ever ask for anything and it doesn't have a certain timeframe already attached to it, it means now. Because if I am doing something and need something else done immediately thats when I ask. But I usually dont ask for these things. If the trash is full, I take it out. I sometimes ask my husband "hey, when you go downstairs, can you take my cup and plate?". Usually when he is on his way anyway. If it is something that he isn't already doing it is usually a request f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:12 AM
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Sshhhh. you are not supposed to tell them that more relationships could mean actually learning things because women aren't supposed to gain that kind of knowledge according to RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:02 AM
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I always wonder what the "alpha" is actually supposed to be. Because no matter the person you will always have to make some compromise. At the end of the day we are all humans. So is the "alpha" the giant penis guy that could rearrange your gut but was otherwise a total failure as a partner? Is the "alpha" the 6feet guy that didn't know how to clean a toilet? Is the "alpha" the guy that could buy everything but was a raging narcissist? Most people will think if the partner is a balanced mixed ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:38 AM
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It doesnt really matter what women do, they get criticism for everything anyway and are supposed to take the blame for everything. Also if women are doing the "masculine" and "feminine" things in a relationship... what are men doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:48 AM
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So propaganda
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:19 AM
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Or they aren't on the discord
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:33 PM
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Taking psyOPs by tech oligarchs to try to paint feminism a certain way is so funny to me. People fall for everything nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:31 PM
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Yeah... I know. But I like to respond to some of these things more like a normal person might think and not someone that is completely pornfried
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:16 PM
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Good job 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:17 PM
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Yep. When the industrial revolution happend they promised people they would need to work less at same income. It was predicted we were supposed to work 4 hours a day. When women started working to gain more independence wages stayed the same or even got lower in jobs women were doing predominantly. Everything else got more expensive. Government keep cutting social funding to give it to corporations as tax cuts in the name of capital and economy. Its all a scam. Capitalism is a scam. And people s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:52 PM
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😂 the first time I saw a webcam video of my husband I thought "oh god" because he had longer hair and a unkempt longer beard. That was right after his mother died (which I didn't knew at that point). Then we had a video call. He had freshly cut hair and his beard was trimmed. And I was like "oh!". Then I met him in person after we had already talked for a while and I was instantly in love with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:12 PM
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They don't recognise it as an issue. They assume women are the same. This is why they feel so weird when women actually ask questions during a date. They feel like they are in an interview when women just are interested in them as people. This is why they try to reduce womens interest in them as just into finances. If women aren't as shallow the same way they are, they have to be shallow in a different way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:45 PM
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They don't care if they don't like women as people. They like their bodies. Thats it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:41 PM
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Yeah. We did a lot of that back in the day in really big chat room for your area. You got to talk a lot with lots of people. Then if you hit it off you went to private chat rooms. And only after a long ass time people would shyly ask for a pic. Because it wasn't as normalised as it is today to share photos of yourself on the Internet. With my husband it was mostly luck tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:29 AM
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I wouldn't wait until the first date. But this is how my husband and I met. We didn't know what the other looked like when we started talking to each other. We only got to know that after we already talked for a while. But we didn't wait to share what we looked till we met irl. If this is something that most people would do? Probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:22 AM
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Personally I think everyone should have everything to survive without "having to work" for it. The idea that you need to pay for things you need to survive is still horrible to me. Survival shouldn't be dependent on what you can provide for society. I want to do things that make me feel like I am adding to society. But it shouldn't be the basis for my Survival. I wish humans were further evolved at this point but alas... capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:57 AM
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Feminism gave women the chance to refuse men they don't want. Pick up artists turned seduction into a buisness and took the art out of the art to commercialise it. Now it is a paid lesson instead of a acquired skill. Thats why its not as effective anymore. Then the PUAs ramped it up to love bombing. And now everyone has their shields up to seduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:31 AM
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Tell the woman you are dating that in case of having a child you expect a paternity test. Do that before you get married and have children. Just put it as a boundary before it gets serious. Its in the same kind of breath of "do you want to have children?". Its a compatibility test for the person you are dating. Simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:15 PM
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Correct. Which is why I keep advising guys on here not to settle for women that aren't enthusiastic about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:22 PM
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One can desire someone and still not risk their health, safety and future after meeting twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:55 PM
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Yeah. I think we are moving more into purity culture again where open display of sexuality isn't really seen anymore. I blame social media. Nowadays people don't feel as free anymore to express themselves because everything is always filmed and uploaded for the world to see. And then everyone is cringe and judgey about it. Thats so disappointing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:27 PM
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Can you answer the other question too?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:14 PM
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What is waiting too long? I can agree with the other things. Is this kind of desire the only qualifier for a relationship with a woman for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:10 PM
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I feel the same about overly expensive fancy food. I have been to these kinds of restaurants. Tiny portions for a giant price. So not worth it. Give me the greasy pizza.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:06 PM
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Yeah, I have a feeling here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:01 PM
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How does 100% desire look like in action?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:00 PM
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I'm sorry thats your experience. That sounds depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:53 PM
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What does desiring 100% look like? Do you feel the same about the women you are with?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:52 PM
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The percentage of relationships that happen without desire is very small nowadays. At least in liberal spaces. I know that does happen in more conservative spaces. Which is why its always confusing to me that a lot of men seem to want more "traditional" wifes when the norm was that the desire wasnt actually present but duty was on the forefront. Although thinking about that. 🤔 now it actually makes sense why so many conservative men are trying to be with more liberal women and also try to hide t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:44 PM
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Anyone? Really? You have never seen any woman every showing sexual interest in any man? Have you ever been outside?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:29 PM
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Its not my responsibility that you pull random conclusions that I didn't state. And its very misandrist to assume men are only good for financial provision. Especially in a time when don't actually need men to provide for them anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:08 PM
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True. You keep negotiating during your relationship. But the baseline that is established should still be the baseline unless there are extraordinary circumstances that prevent the baseline that was compromised on with both people that entered the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:03 PM
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I never talked about money. You are reinforcing traditional gender roles by assuming men should be financially useful. Your assumptions turn it into misandry by assuming the only thing men are providing in a relationship is financial.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:59 PM
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Yep. Which is why you need to be honest about your habits early on instead of pretending. You can only compromise on what is presented to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:57 PM
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Its not misogynistic to expect a partner to provide something in a relationship that is more valuable than being a pet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:54 PM
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If you respect your partner and want to protect them and their peace, everyone should be able to compromise on certain things in a relationship. But this is also part of vetting a partner. If you are dating someone that lives like a pig, red flag. If you are dating someone thats not enthusiastic about you, red flag. Thats why you shouldn't pretend to be someone during dating and then just completely drop off once you feel you secured them. Show up where you are. Let both people compare notes abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:34 PM
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Which country are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:59 AM
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My country?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:51 AM
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You commented something about my country on a comment that is about online echo chambers. Doesn't seem normal to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:42 AM
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If you need to force people to trade their singlehood for a relationship its not a voluntary trade, is it? Why do you want to force the state then to have people give up their freedom and bodily autonomy?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:40 AM
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Why should being alone over settling be penalised?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:31 AM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:22 AM
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I think that mindset is shrinking more and more. When I grew up I was raised to think being single is a failure. I was asked at 14 if I had a boyfriend yet. I know this mindset is still prevalent somewhat and especially men feel something is wrong with them for being single, but I also think we are moving away from that. Which is good. Too many people are in relationships where they can't stand their partners. That men and women. The amount of social media post you can see where people objective…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:25 AM
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Its at the simp distribution office. You will have to fill out a form and have to wait 6 month to 1 year to be assigned a simp. They will do some background checks and check your credit score just to make sure you aren't abusing the social service when you can afford to be your own simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:09 AM
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Just gotta remember that this is a minority that thinks this way. Then its not that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:08 AM
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This thread is all over the place. From economic impact, to paying men higher salaries for jobs that are expected of women to do for free at home, to wage differences between service jobs based on gender, to custody battles. What a wild ride of a thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:05 AM
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Sounds like father's need to step up and actually be present in their children's lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:00 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:46 AM
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What a weird thing to say when this is a 3 day old comment about Internet echo chambers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:37 AM
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Your own words aren't strawmen. I don't care about winning when you are this obvious with your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:34 AM
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Thats what I am doing. So yay me! I am being a good friend
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:13 PM
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I wish this would show more detailed who receives what. Because it basically just says old people receive most medical aid and poor people receive most social aid. It doesn't really go into detail of things. Also: The female non-college group is large among older generations but has declined rapidly for subsequent birth cohorts. With the fact that more women are now college educated than men the whole tax thing is going to look different in the upcoming years and decades. I would also like to kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:12 PM
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Again. Same principle women have to hear when they have multiple abusive partners. I am just giving the advice back that women receive to have some equality
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:24 PM
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We can't assume he isn't. He only said it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:22 PM
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And this happens a lot either a woman randomly asked me for money or to buy her dinner or something like that. Its a pattern
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:18 PM
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You got some source for where taxes are mostly used on?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:17 PM
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He said it happend multiple times. There is a pattern
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:14 PM
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Are you new here?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:51 PM
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She sucks. And Im not complaining?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:27 PM
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I am calm. We don't choose to have people ask us for money sex. They start full ass conversation faked interest and then ask you for money sex. Same conversation. I do agree for more empathy but only if we are also allowed to call for accountability equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:25 PM
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But you engaged sparsely with her until she asked you for a favour despite her being flaky on you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:21 PM
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You guys seriously need to raise your standards. Thats the same kind of treatment men would call out in the way "why do you let men use you for sex?" And "choose better"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:20 PM
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Why do you accept that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:18 PM
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And this happens a lot either a woman randomly asked me for money or to buy her dinner or something like that. That happens a lot to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:17 PM
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I disagree about the lying. People need to respect when other people don't want to do stuff for them. I do agree with the "why are you dating her, if you aren't interested?". At that point it seems equal. He wants to use her for her body, she wants to use him for his body. Both are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:15 PM
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I used your words. Read your own comment and think about what you wrote. When a woman is afraid I'm not going to like her because <<insert random unfounded insecurity here>> I don't back off.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 02:41 PM
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Great. We agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 02:16 PM
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"I am not dangerous" says the guy that also insists that you need to push womens boundaries for your own happiness. Its funny how you call women neurotic and that they make stuff up one sentence after you declared you arent dangerous but also dont let anyone's silly little opinion stand in the way of your happiness. That is exactly what people say that don't respect boundaries and bodily autonomy. Congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 02:15 PM
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Even dating. If she isn't enthusiastic she isn't it. Again. Women need to learn to actually show interest instead of hiding behind plausible deniability. We all need to work together to change this bs behaviour so no one has an excuse anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 02:09 PM
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And often if you do push like that you get rewarded, but if you don't push at all you always lose out. Thats the issue. They push and afterwards they are offended they get accused of SAing a woman. Men need to learn not to accept ambiguity and women need to learn that ambiguity hurts other women. Yes this is a issue for both genders. Thats why advocating for "enthusiasts yes" is so important. No grey zones no victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 01:53 PM
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You brought up your ex and made it personal. My original point stand. Men need to stop this consistent bargain for some crumbs of attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:35 AM
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And thats how you became a black pill man?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:16 AM
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6 years? She settled.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:00 AM
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And many women are complaining about being constantly touched by their partner without their consent. That is one of the reasons women with a low libido cite as a source for their decline in libido. Not everyone needs to go the extra mile like me and my husband. But feeling entitled to just touch your partner in any way shape or form is not good for a relationship. The way women in relationships are complaining about getting their tits randomly honked, their ass grabbed and other random touches …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:59 AM
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Prioritising each other's autonomy is awful? Do you rather not be asked before something is done to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:34 AM
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Most of the time. "Can we hold hands?", "can I get a hug?", "can I get a kiss?", "I want to feel you so badly right now". My husband always has the option to say no and so do I. Just because we are married doesn't mean I just assume I get to have access to his body whenever I feel like. Sometimes we do practice implied consent where when we are already cuddling it will become more intimate. But again. We also regularly have check ins if each of us is okay with what is happening in our relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:29 AM
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Its not bad to cut ties. Just be polite. Done. You are not responsible for how other people feel as long as you aren't insulting, rude or anything like that when cutting ties.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:25 AM
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If a women is not enthusiastic about you and is being off put by you asking for consent to touch her, don't keep engaging with her. This is a sign you will end up being seen as a shitty partner. Stop playing these games. Hold womem accountable instead of playing into shit tests. And yes. I do ask my husband regularly for consent. We have regular conversations about boundaries and we both make sure we are always on the same page when it comes to anything related to bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:22 AM
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Don't you think inflating births that way is a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:54 AM
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All of that are excuses. This idea that women dont have autonomy and need to be coddled and bargained with to settle for men they aren't excited about needs to stop. If there is no reciprocity there shouldn't be a relationship. If men would stop flooding women they could finally take a breath and actually engage with men on a neutral level instead of keeping their defences up. There is nothing organic about convincing someone to settle for you. Why would anyone want to be with someone that isn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:28 AM
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What does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:57 AM
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I also think it would be good for 100% of men to not approach. Because then women can stop being burned out from this. The idea that you think women want to constantly interrupted by random men do reproduce is really funny to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:56 AM
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Okay. Again. Nobody forces men to approach anyone. Its saver for everyone if men leave women alone anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:50 PM
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Im not just talking about 🍇 here. I'm also just talking about not respecting boundaries, not taking no for an answer and coercion. These aren't irrational fears because they are a very common occurrence. Which is why I find it so funny that the men here in the comments are all like "either I am allowed to SA a woman or I won't say hello anymore". I'm not suprised consent is such a difficult concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:06 PM
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That sounds like a revenge fantasy of how women deserve to be abused because they didn't settle for someone else. You are aware that abuse can come from any man? Even a short, fat, hairless, dirty, jobless guy. And if she actually leaves "she is not worth it! Women initiate the majority of divorces!". So either a woman stays in a relationship and is abused and its her own fault for not getting the ick, she leaves and she is used, she leaves and she doesnt value commitment and leaves because of e…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:51 PM
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What does approaching have to do with women deserving it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:43 PM
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Personally I would never stay in a relationship I am not enthusiastic about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:41 PM
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I love how we always go from pushing boundaries, grey areas fo "women have a low chance of 🍇". As if only that counts as grey area. But you are right. Not dating is always an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:02 PM
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Again. Why is "saying hello" always the same on here like sexually assaulting someone? We are talking about consent. Accepting a rejection. Why is it this all or nothing thinking of "either I can 🍇 this woman or I wont even say hello".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:47 PM
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No. Men do not actually say they raped someone. But they talk about what they do with women. Ask follow up questions. Don't just high five a guy when he said he had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:44 PM
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Do you see in my comment how I adress men and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:42 PM
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If you respect the rejection you dont get the police called on you. Thats just fear mongering
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:22 PM
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Some of these words. I swear. I constantly have to google shit which word I actually mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:15 PM
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Why is accepting a "no" and not pushing boundaries the exact same thing as "approaching women"? Can guys not separate between "hello" and sexually molesting a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:11 PM
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Women are already taking steps. Its men that don't listen. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:00 PM
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Why are men complaining about the draft and being potentially dragged into a war but still play COD and Battlefield and other shooters? Do you understand the difference between a fantasy and reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:57 PM
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Stop accepting less. You guys are way to desperate. If she isn't verbally consenting she isn't into you enough. Thats it. You guys need to stop thinking with your dick and start growing a backbone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:47 PM
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Yes you can influence it. Talk to each other. Educate each other. Hold each other accountable. Women can't just be the only ones that advocate for these things and call men out for it. Instead we get manosphere bs that young guys follow blindly and then become more and more violent against women. Women keep telling men for ages what they want and they aren't listening. And instead of taking some accountability its always "well, what am I supposed to do?". So then women completely opt out of dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:39 PM
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You know what happens when bad actors cause negative consequences for the overall population? They get called out (or voted into office but thats a different issue). Men need to call out other men. Dont let the bad actors drag the good guys down.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:27 PM
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Men need to stop accepting this and women need to stop doing that. More honesty for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:25 PM
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This is not created by women. This is a male issue. Men aren't accepting "no", they keep pushing, they keep disrespecting womens autonomy. If men collectively would just stop doing that, women would feel more comfortable to actually engage with more men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:12 PM
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"I would love to hold your hand right now, is that okay?" Say that in a quiet moment when you are engaging with each other, preferably with eye contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:06 PM
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Don't engage in shit tests. Women and men need to learn that this is not okay. If men and women would finally accept that this kind of stuff is detrimental for everyone, we wouldn't even have these conversations
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:01 PM
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Verbal to be safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:00 PM
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I am currently having an argument with someone else on another platform about this. He is insisting that women use excuses to avoid saying no. I keep telling him if he feels like its an excuse he needs to back off. If the excuse is something that could be seen as a way to escape, he needs to back off. Stop pursuing women that aren't enthusiastic about you. Ask for consent. Yes there are ways to make it romantic or sexy. Breaking the touch barrier should only be done with consent. If you you have…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:53 PM
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Its always kind of funny to me. Before it was "cat lady" and women were like "you are losing to cats. Thats a self-own". And now its this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:40 PM
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True. Personally I think universal income should be a thing and shelter, food, water and clothing should also be provided from society to everyone because without it we are dying. Even if someone doesn't add to society they should still be able to survive. But I also think that if someone adds to society via a job, parenthood, protecting society, etc. They should have an extra compensation on top of basic needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:31 PM
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Its not irrelevant. It doesn't matter if a single parent put themselves into that position on purpose or not. As a parent they are still providing more for society than a NEET. Thats like trying to compare a soldier that signs up for war to a NEET.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:15 PM
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NEETs dont contribute to society. Mothers do. Single parenthood isn't bad behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:46 PM
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Friendly reminder that this paper is just an opinion piece based on the facts that there are declining birthrates. Its not a scientific paper. Its just three people talking about the issue and throwing out ideas about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:45 PM
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How sad. I think learning, debating, growing and discussing can be very entertaining. But not if it is something where there isn't anything left to debate, grow, learn or discuss about because it has been debated for soooo many times already.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:40 AM
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Why does all of these exclude entertainment?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:35 AM
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Why do you think you are here?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:31 AM
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😂 thanks for the info. I hate how close these words are. When it comes to porn: I wonder if it would influence mens libido if they didn't have these readily available outlets for it. Although personally I think even if they use it as a crutch its not a good crutch because on average it actually makes men insecure about their bodies and sexual performance to watch porn. I wonder if men would be happier if they would use more of their imagination than the dopamine rush of fast food sexual gratific…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:46 AM
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Nice try. Have a lovely Sunday 🌞
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:23 AM
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Boooooring. We need a new dating topic to argue about. This is chewed up like a old gum on a sidewalk.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:18 AM
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Yes its different. Men and women experience different consequences from certain themes and even just the medium itself. Sexual function goes up for women and down for men with porn use. Partnered sexual satisfaction has almost no impact on women with frequent porn use compared to men. It seems men are having issues with using sexual content while it has a more positive impact on women. The themes might not even play much of a role itself but it seems obvious that there is a correlation between m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:11 AM
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Happy cake day!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:43 AM
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They murdered my favourite gif sets back in the day. Since then I haven't really been on there anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:33 AM
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I am aroused by that. But it is contextual for me. I have videos and memories of me and my husband doing that. That is arousing because I make sure it is aesthetically pleasing to me and contextual. I am not voyeuristic enough to enjoy watching the genitals of two complete strangers smashing into each other. I think men on average have a higher likelihood for voyeurism so they get sexually aroused by contextless sexual acts. Personally I need a certain emotional investment. I need a story that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:24 AM
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I'm still miffed that tumblr outlawed "sexual content" back in the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:14 AM
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Thats not visual. Thats objectifying. The bouncing still needs to be aesthetically pleasing to me in more than just watching bodies in motion. The acting needs to feel sensual as if they actually enjoy it. Non of this over the top fake moaning bs. The lighting and scene itself needs to be moody and erotic. If none of these criteria are met its not engaging for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:03 AM
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When my standards were already low and the men I got with still managed to drop below that, thats what disappointing. These guys didn't care about me as a person, bad hygiene, no ambition for anything, didn't care about my sexual needs, pushed boundaries, were talking shit about others with their friends, had no interest in the world, didn't care about anything that wasn't immediate gratification to them, antisocial behaviours, etc. It got much better for me after I raised my standards much high…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:59 AM
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Ive seen men online ask how to get rid of their libido. The issue is that a lack of libido tends to be a side effect of medication and you can't always pick and choose which side effects you get. I've seen men in sexless marriages recommend ssri's for that. The downside of that is that a lot of things in the body tend to play together. The same for women. Thats why women tend to get prescribed hormonal therapy when they are in their menopause (which can influence the libido too). There isn't rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:51 AM
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I wish men would stop saying they are visual when its basically objectifying. If men were actually visual they would care for aesthetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:45 AM
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Personally. No. I have tried to watch mainstream porn in the past. I hate it. The acting is weird, the lighting is horrible, the sets look boring, there is just no mood, aesthetic or feeling in these videos. They make me nauseous. I am always suprised that the gender that says they are "visual" is so obsessed with these visually unpleasant scenes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:34 AM
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Why is changing standards the same as lowering them? Just because you liked vanilla ice cream the most in your life doesn't mean your taste changing to chocolate ice cream makes one better than the other. They are both ice cream. They are both equal. They just taste different.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:25 AM
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What is the average body count for men and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:17 AM
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Men that compromise their own integrity because they are "thirsty" are not good men. If you settled for a bad partner because you wanna smash you are a bad partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:29 PM
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Both. If you are only a simp because you hope you will receive something in return thats called "covert contract" and makes you a Nice Guy™. Covert contracts fall under the umbrella of manipulation
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:15 PM
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Most of the time I see that happen its not because the woman waits to lock down the man. But they were already struggling with effort, emotional intimacy and sex before they get married and both assume getting married will fix it. When it doesnt. These are imo the most delusional people. Its the same ones that try to save their relationship by having a baby. Its wild to me how common this mindset to "make it work" was. Nowadays its luckily not as common anymore but I still see it here and there.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:16 PM
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Make sure you take some break from the online world. It can suck you into a downwards spiral. Take care of yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:42 AM
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This is up to you and her to decide. I am giving my opinion on what is a better solution based on the knowledge I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:13 AM
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Then these women need to grow up and learn to have clear communications. And men shouldn't accept grey areas either. Its harms everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:06 AM
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I personally just don't like the way he phrased it as "wasting his time". But I like that he was honest and it was the best approach. Women should be grateful for this instead of arguing about coercion. There might be some pushback but this is actually the way to go. "Only yes means yes". No grey areas. Women and men need to learn that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:59 AM
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You might need a little break. You seem to be very emotional. Maybe do something fun and spend time with friends or have a little snack. Take a walk. I'm not sure ranting online will improve your mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:47 AM
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Then the other question is just if she wants to. Easy as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:39 AM
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If she can't afford it, nobody can stay at home
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:01 AM
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Amen. I'm currently watching that in another sub. Its bizarre
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:11 AM
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Gear shift is a good metaphor for it. I always knew I didn't want kids so for me that wasn't the case. But I have seen how it is affecting other women. I do feel sorey for the ones that try to go hard for it but can't make it work. It is a little death when that dream actually dies. Then they have to grief that dream and recalibrate from something they thought would happen for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:29 PM
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A lot of women know early on what they want in life. The question is usually to find the right partner to get there. Its less of a sudden realisation but more of the feeling of a dream starting to slip away and there is more urgency. Its a bit like when people get into a midlife crisis because they suddenly realise they aren't as fit anymore as they used to so they want to fulfil some things they thought they still have time for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:15 PM
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Because monkeys dont do that. Only humans
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:33 PM
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Do whatever you want. Thats just my suggestion
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:27 PM
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If a monkey would hoard all bananas and let all the other monkeys starve we would study whats wrong with it. But we accept this behaviour as normal in humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:29 PM
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If you dont want that you can decide that in your relationship. I just promote what I think is the safest thing to do for sahp.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:58 PM
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Because this thread is about stay at home! Why is it so hard to stay on topic here. This continous derailing is so tiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:10 PM
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Agree! Maybe another species has that better figured out than us.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:07 PM
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I am responding based on the thread. Not on two working people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:04 PM
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Because thats the topic of this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:46 PM
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Putting children, parents and people that need care as first priority instead of spending tons of money on wars and corporate welfare.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:13 PM
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Not just women. I explicitly said this is for any breadwinner
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:59 PM
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Then the decision needs to be "can we afford children?". Because the if someone isn't future oriented and still wants to have children they are just offloading their own shortsightedness onto their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:31 PM
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What is?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:04 PM
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Don't think men have gotten that memo yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:15 AM
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I am not but I still advocate for these things. Right now the social state in my country is being destroyed by the government. I am very angry right now. Everything is just made worse than better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:12 AM
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It really can. This is so sad
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:10 AM
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Sorry I care about other people
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:09 AM
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You probably havent noticed its a pretty common thing. Most men don't care about it. When I talked with my husband about it before he said he never noticed it even though I have hip dips. A lot of women also edit it or use shape ware to hid them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:42 AM
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The dip itself or the shaming around it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:38 AM
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We are seeing how well the whole immigration system is working everywhere. Especially with declining birth rates world wide. Personally I don't really care. I advocate for higher taxes and better children and parent treatment. Despite me not being a parent. In the end. The decisions arent up to me and I wont bring anyone into this to deal with this. Im not putting the debt of figuring this out on the next generation. Thats just cruel
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:38 AM
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If someone find them unattractive thats up to them. Nothing to be done about. Obviously people are trying to make money with insecurities. Its a typical sales method. Create a problem and then sell the solution for it. For the hip dip there are workout programmes and shape underwear and all that bs. Its always the same bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:30 AM
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👍 I got you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:40 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:26 AM
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This is such a stupid conversation. 🤦‍♂️ I have hipdips. I know some women are insecure about them. The same way ANYTHING can be turned into a stupid insecurity. The amount of bs and body shaming they consistently find is wild. Thigh gaps, muffin tops, breast shapes, visible collar bones, double chins, nose shapes, eyelid shapes, knee shapes, etc. The list of potential insecurities goes on and on and on. It is so stupid. The looksmaxx peeps really hammered that in for men (pun intended). In the …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:58 AM
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Awesome. I'm glad to see that some people are figuring this out properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:47 AM
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Personally I think this needs to go even further. And not even in the gendered way. The breadwinner should automatically give the stay at home partner a part of their paycheck that only the sahp has access too. They also should pay equally as for themselves into a pension account. One of the things that happens with sahp is that they aren't able to retire without the other partner because they have not been able to to care for their future. We are seeing that a lot with older generations where w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:12 AM
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Personally - orgasms are a lot about tension and relaxation at the right moments for me. I have certain muscles in my body I need to tense to be able to achive an orgasm while simultaneously have a certain kind of sensory/stimulation. It is a very intense focus until I reach the point of no return and have my O. Then its like a body vibration where my muscles tense on its own and my body feels like there is almost a kind of carbonation washing over my insides through my body. Then the relaxation…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:49 PM
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Some people can't read so they can't talk about books. Sorry, I just giggle about that 😂. Imagine reading a thread title "lets talk about books" and then thinking on a reading based platform "well I cant read" I know this is not what you meant but for a moment it really made me laugh. Thank for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:35 PM
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Yeah. I dont even think we need coming of age parties. I think we need like annual parties like that. We have these traditions in germany where in certain states there are things called hunter festival. The men compete to become hunter kings and they have their own little hunter court. The partners of them are dressing up in these elaborate dresses and then they do like marching band parades and shit. All very traditional. I think it would be good if we take something like that and turn it into …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:51 PM
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Social indoctrination. I hope at some point we can all move on from this fantasy of a "dream wedding". There is this idea that there is this big beautiful princess like party. A lot of women want to be a princess, at least for a day. We don't really have reasons to wear these over the top fantasy dresses and have this magical day. Yes it is selfish to not really think about the men in that. The marriage itself tends to be just a thing a lot of people assume will just figure itself out. I think w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:06 PM
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I think this is a bit backwards. A man integrated in society is usually social and will find a partner. You dont need to have a partner to be integrated in society. Into certain parts of society? Sure. Parents are more likely to hang out with parents and so on. If you feel you need to be in a relationship to be approved by society you have some work to do with your own perception of your value as a human. This is a job a lot of men are not doing. They are trying to suppliment their feeling of be…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 08:27 AM
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I was commenting on your comment. Not the post itself. Thats why I asked you specifically about your comment instead of in the context of what the average man does. Men that don't care about their partners aren't even average. They are below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 08:18 AM
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Then men that don't care about their partners comfort and preferences will face the consequences and will not be partners anymore. It is the entire point. I wouldn't want to be together with someone that doesnt respect me enough to pay attention to what I care about and how they can make me feel loved and cherrished. At that point a relationship is not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:44 AM
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Why would a woman want to be with a man that doesn't care about something that is important to her? Even if I don't care I still make an effort to make my partner happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:18 AM
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You are welcome, I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:42 AM
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I would take Hasan and Vaush and stuff more as political commentator too. If we are looking at genderwar peeps we have to probably go even smaller with people like willhitchins, Professor_neil, thespeechprof and people like that. Thats the ones I would count more on gender commentators.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:33 AM
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Tbf anything that you personally never experienced is very hard to actually imagining properly. We all think our empathy would be enough to make us able to identify with someone but unless we all at some point get to upload our brains into a computer and really share all our feelings and experiences there will always be a part of your brain that dismisses someone's elses reality if you are completely removed from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:49 PM
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I mean. Yeah. Unless we are actually talking statistics most of the stuff on here is anecdotes and anecdotes are based on personality and gender and all of these traits that turn you into who you are. Thats just how our world view forms.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:39 PM
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The ones that I follow have a mix with mostly leaning towards calling out the gender war bs. I follow also some political commentators but they are much less likely to comment on gender war stuff. Everyone is a bit in their own niche when it comes to this stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:30 PM
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They do. Usually thats the kinds of system that is setup outside of courts. It only goes to courts if the men tries to fight it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:49 PM
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Progressive influencers mostly spend their time debunking the bs that manosphere influencers are shouting. They dont sell stuff (except if they are psychologists or something, then maybe they will try to sell a book or something). And most of their audience is female anyway. Men usually just call them white knights, traitors, BBs and gay in the comments. They are mostly reaction influencers and not promoting some dating course or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:46 PM
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Even full custody could be an issue. Unless they are actually fully no contact and most mothers will probably not do that because a lot of moms bond pretty strong to their offspring. Thats why they are doing most of the child rearing anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:35 PM
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The average child support payment in the U.S. is approximately $430 to $441 per month and about 30% of parents who are owed child support payments receive nothing. So the child support stuff is not true. Children are very expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:25 PM
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Kind of yes. But the issue is that mothers of the children will be charged if they dont protect the children from neglect or abuse by the father. So either she abandons her child and might be liable for what happens to the children and is looked at as a dead beat or the child gets raised by potential strangers that are also potentially neglectful/abusive and mom is still on the hook. The best case scenario would be a dedicated father with a whole village and the mom having the children sometimes…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:21 PM
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Its not really about value. Its about flexibility. Men are amazing when it comes to following a certain order. Their level of tolerance to absolute horrible conditions is pretty high. They are stronger, dont catch as much health issues, dont have to compensate for a complicated hormonal system. The issue is that women were used on every front that was necessary. Hunting, gathering, child rearing, then farming, house keeping, care work in general, when there was war women were working in factorie…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:05 PM
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Your issue is that you fall outside the expected norm because the expected norm is the overwhelming majority. Thats the actual issue. If more men would embrace who they actually are that wouldn't be an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:36 AM
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If 90% of men are conforming themselves to traditional masculinity then obviously that will look like women are attracted to that. You dont really have much of a choice at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:30 AM
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I hope most people would let go of that with time and just enjoy their sex life. Then I see some stuff on rhe marriage subreddit where that still pops up even a decade into a marriage. Thats always wild to me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:28 AM
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Im not disagreeing that there are women that are attracted to a certain type. I am disagreeing that all men need to be the same to attract all woman. Men shoot themselves in the foot with that. If more men would live more authentic and individual then we wouldn't even have the issue of defining masculinity as a certain thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:24 AM
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Because most men stuff themselves in a box anyway. And again. I was told on here multiple times that my husband is a BB and that I am not attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:18 AM
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So obese is a extreme deformity. With defining things like that you could just exclude whatever as extreme deformity. And no. My husband is my height. Although some days is a bit taller than me because of a birth defect in his back.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:49 AM
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So you would feel attracted to a 50 y.o obese woman with shaven head, crooked teeth, dyed armpit hair. The same way as a 20 y.o gym rat with long natural hair?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:28 AM
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You have absolutely no preference for anything physical?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:19 AM
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What makes you attracted to the women you are attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:14 AM
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We do. And then we get accused of not being attracted to our partners or that we are only using them for resources
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:35 AM
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You can see that in a lot of comment sections of men that dont perform this stereotypical masculinity in ANY small way. Instantly you see comments from men attacking another man's sexuality or validity as a "real man". The small box men are allowed to navigate their own identity in, seems so exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:33 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:28 PM
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I saw a reel of a American that moved to germany. She explained that she had to inform the school that her daughter was riding her bike home after school and made sure she had a special permission for that in america. She said in germany that is just normal that kids go to and from school alone and that nobody bats an eye. It blew my mind that that isn't a normal experience for children.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 10:07 AM
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Yeah. There needs to be a balance between responsibilities and childhood joy imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:48 AM
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I think I read a thing before where some scientists talked about a 7 year monogamy thing. Because that is the age in which children become pretty self sufficient without their parents having to keep taking care of them. Which is why a lot of relationships seemed to die on the 7 year hill bump. That was interesting too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:28 AM
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I think most of these things are not gendered and more based on peoples personalities. The issue is that a lot of people aren't honest about themselves and who they are and what they actually want. They still follow certain expectations set by society instead of honestly reflect on what they truly want. Then they end up in situations where they are miserable and drag others down too. I think some people are made for long term relationships. They enjoy the commitment and security. And some people…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:25 AM
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Tbf. Women have tried to do the same objectification thing too. It just never took off as the way men do it. I think most of these are an attempt in revenge when women do it. The whole "pencil vs. Pencil sharpener, loaded gun, atm, etc" thing. The objectification of men isnt as prevalent for women as it is for men. This is why the objectification game is fun
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:16 AM
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In today's episode of: "what object can we compare a woman to?!" What is the contestant offering? The old reliable "lock, car or even more exotic with the actual creature, fish?" Oh! We have gotten a special one today ladies! Its a "restaurant"! We dont get a lot of location comparisons! How fun. Thank you for playing in our show. Get your coupon code on the way out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:35 AM
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I think most of my experiences work better digested as short stories like this post. But I think it is interesting to see some personal anecdotes how these things can play out. This is why I have no issue talking about my history on here. But thanks for the compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:43 AM
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Natural selection to me means only people that want to breed with each other mutually get to. Whoever wants to and consents to it without any force or coercion Absolutely. Based on my family history my line should've ended much earlier. Now it ends with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:15 AM
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I have been in two situationships. The first one lasted almost a decade. I crushed really hard on her when I was like 18. She triggered my protector response and I was insanely attracted to her. She was in a dead end relationship when we met. She cheated on her gf with me for a while. When she broke it off with her gf I thought "now we can become a couple". She said she needed more time. I was incredibly patient while we were still best friends and me fucking her brain out. She never reciprocate…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:13 AM
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I think the complete system is broken. Thats the point. The industrial age promised less work. AI promised to replace peoples labour. Instead we created a lot of useless labour and made everything overcomplicated so we could pay someone to live. A system that runs on consistent growth in a finite world is not working and we are already seeing the consequences of that. I'm just realistic about it. You seem very emotional about my points, maybe you should take a breath and calm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:56 AM
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This reminds me of this one study where they asked men and women who talk more. Men were absolutely 💯 certain women talk more in conversations. Women said it was about equal. In reality in a mixed gender conversation men talk actually a lot more. I think a lot of men struggle to recognise when they are complaining and instead assumr its just them providing information or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:50 AM
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I am not sure if its was with the titanic or some other thing but I remember seeing a story about a guy that survived being in super cold ocean water because he was incredibly drunk. Like so drunk it actually raised his body temperature so he could survive the super cold water. So pro survival tip: if your ship goes down in a very cold ocean - get reeeeaaaalllyy drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:03 AM
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Most of this comes down to a certain imprinted mindset of entitlement and privilege. They saw that decades ago a man only had to work a job and that guaranteed him access to a womans body. They think it is an unfair change of their own living standard that this is not the case anymore. This is what centuries of forced coupling up and patriarchy does to us. Its similar still for some women. Some women still think the man should be the provider for her lifestyle and she offers access to her body. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:55 AM
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"When the body senses danger from a virus or infection, the immune system kicks into gear and attacks it. This is called an immune response. Sometimes, healthy cells and tissues are caught up in this response, resulting in autoimmune disease." Keeping a clean environment could prevent the trigger of the immune system which attacks viruses and infections. Which results in collateral damage of health cells and tissues. The less a woman is subjected to something that triggers her immune system the …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:29 PM
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Then be honest about that before engaging in a relationship so all of this can be avoided.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:52 PM
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Are you pretending to be stupid at work?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:52 PM
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This is quite the first world problem. Some people in this world actually have struggles with real dangerous circumstances Thats not offering perspective. Thats dismissing someone else's problems. Thats like telling a depressed person they could have it worse and they should smile more
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:49 PM
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Dismissing isn't engaging in the debate. Then you dont want to actually talk about the topic but just handwave it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:36 PM
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Thats not a point. If he doesn't want to engage with a debate and just declare it as ridiculous because it doesnt affect him then he shouldn't comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:18 PM
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Exactly. So stop acting retarded and just be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:16 PM
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What is that even supposed to mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:12 PM
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He has no point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:11 PM
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"tHeRe ArE cHiLdReN sTaRvInG iN aFrIcA"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:02 PM
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Studies show spikes in cortisol related to clutter in the home, and women show higher spikes than men. females are more resistant to infectious diseases and much more likely to develop autoimmune diseases. Women's cortisol levels spike because of clutter (that can be a result of how we are raised) and womens immune system can trigger auto immune issues based on environmental contamination. 80% of those who have autoimmune diseases are women. I think the least we can expect from the "protectors a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:27 PM
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The standard of cleanliness between women and men is different because of biological reasons. Thats the whole point. But I agree it should be made clear in the beginning so the toddler brain issue doesnt even becomes a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:02 PM
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You dont have to. Thats the same argument when guys ask a woman out and she says "no".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:56 PM
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I asked for a study that a specific sex act that isn't given is raising mens cortisol. The same way that clutter (which is a specific thing) raises cortisol in women. This is a gendered issue and what you provided is a general stress response by everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:56 PM
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Not when its used the way you are using it. Then its just slippery slope.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:54 PM
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Thats an article.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:49 PM
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You got a study on that? As far as I know sex in general lowers cortisol and not a specific sex act.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:44 PM
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So what? Then everyone needs to learn to respect no. Its a good lesson at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:41 PM
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Clutter does can cause a cortisol spikes. Prolonged high cortisol has detrimental effects on people health.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:40 PM
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You can't outsource everything to children and machines. Thats not how households work (yet). And again. Just because you dont care doesn't mean it has no effect on the health of your partner. Thats like arguing that you dont care if your partner has allergies to nuts and yet you keep cooking with nuts because you dont care about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:38 PM
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Because you are debating in bad faith by using Reductio ad absurdum
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:34 PM
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There is biological aspects on why clutter and dirt are a bigger issue for women than for men. Clutter causes cortisol spikes in women which stresses them out and dirt can cause stronger immune responses in women because of our immune system. If men really wanted to provide and protect the way they keep claiming they would make sure to prioritise and respect womens health.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:31 PM
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You can just say "no" without insulting someone. Maybe men need to learn too that "no" is a full sentence instead of just lying to save face
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:27 PM
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So lying is better?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:19 PM
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Just say no. Why do you act like an idiot instead of using your words and clear communication?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:10 PM
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Toddler brain makes it even worse than weaponised incompetence. The amount of women that dont want to have sex with toddlers is probably pretty high. With weaponised incompetence you can at least argue they are adult enough to have a tactic. Still the same outcome though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:04 PM
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Maybe men need to do more target audience research instead of doing AWALT to get the results they want. A lot of people suggest when it comes to dating to pick a niche based on your own hobbies, morals and values. Thats a typical BP advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:16 AM
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Then men need to stop viewing women as a hive mind and actually ask the women they want to date instead of all women. If they want to date women that are okay with dating serial killers they need to ask them about their morals instead of assuming all women think the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:05 AM
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Depends on the people. This is where my husband and I also divert. I am pro-billionair woodchipper. He doesn't agree with that. And I am sure there are women that are morally even more diverse than that. Depends on a lot of things where your morals come from. I am also anti child harm and would love to see some people punished in certain ways, yet here we are and seeing that this doesn't seem to be a universal moral thing and there are actually a lot of people that protect these kind of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:50 AM
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I can make compromises on certain things if I want a long term relationship with someone. I am not going to change anything about myself just to appeal to someone. Then they wouldn't be in love with me but with a version I pretend to be. I can't keep up a facade just to make someone like me. I want to be loved for who I am, not for how I pretend to be. Thats just disingenuous. Which is also a thing that gets criticism from everyone. The whole "bait and switch" is never cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:47 AM
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Morality is subjective though. Just because I find something morally bad doesn't mean everyone else agrees. Thats not even a gendered thing. We do have laws for the really morally bad things and even these are not even universal and arent even enforced universally. You could ask different people the exact same moral question and would get different answers. Even my husband and I have different moral values on certain thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:33 AM
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Why would I care about what random people I dont care about want, if I am not what they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:13 AM
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I think my main complaint about this is the size issue. Because murderers and stuff is a very small percentage of the human population. And sure some of them (usually the most prominent of them) have success with women. Thats what? 1%? Men complain when women say "all men" and then bring statistics to proof its not all men. But then they turn around and use that tiny percentage as proof of their own bias? If the 1% of super dangerous men have partners so do the 1% of average and the 1% of morall…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:01 AM
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Oh I know them. I see them on here and on social media. The unselected men are very vocal how much they constantly try to mould themselves into becoming selected. The desperation is very loud
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:34 AM
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They dont focus their whole life around women. They actually have a life
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:26 AM
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All of these are skewed towards unsuccessful men. Thats just selection bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:38 AM
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The most time I have spend learning about men was how to avoid being harmed by them. After that they are incredible vocal what they want. They basically never shut up about their preferences. And usually that doesnt align with their actions. Watch what they do, not what they say. Other than that I just lived my life and cared about myself. My husband came along and we are very compatible so I don't have to change who I am. On the contrary - I can actually be who I am around him without judgment.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:34 AM
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I am actually having a conversation with someone about the right to refuse further in the comments of this comment here. I compared sex workers to therapists and we are talking about why for instance in the UK therapists can reject a client. I found a website where a therapist listed reasons they could refuse a client and the list actually sounds reasonable even for sex workers as health care providers. It is an interesting topic definitely
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:30 PM
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I think it would actually be a pretty good idea because there are enough people that engage in sex work without a license and a lot of them are forced into it. If this kind of practice could be turned into a legitimate career the crack down on the illegal buisness might be easier. Of course it wont be cheap but if we want to classify it as health care then the provider deserves to be paid a proper wage. Thats the whole point. It might actually be a pretty good idea for men and women tbf. I think…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:00 PM
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Doctors can decide what clients they take. Especially therapist can decide what clients they take. If we would look at prostitutes as something along the lines of sex therapists that still allows them to decline clients. The same way doctors for instance can refuse to perform abortions if it is against their own religious beliefs. Health care is a very interesting field when it comes to that. For instance if we look at the American insurance system where the insurance refuses to pay for doctors …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 12:42 PM
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I assume thats where you were going with this. And I kind of agree. I commented on someone else in this thread if sex work would be seen more as health care if it was tied to a official degree and license when it comes to care. Like therapists and nurses and your typical health care providers. I think if people were pushing more for it in a health care provider sense it would be more accepted. Until then it seems more like a house cleaning service which is a luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 12:27 PM
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Most of health care is elderly care which is about dignity and pain management. Anything untreated for too long can become life threatening. So technically yes. But as I said I am also about prevention of deteriorating health. Which is why people go to check ups and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 12:19 PM
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Its also about preventative meassure like vaccines and care before something becomes a life threatening illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:20 AM
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Personally no. I had the sex I wanted to have (except for the times I was rejected obviously). I learned what how I wanted my sex life to look like. I had sex with men and women. I had relationships with men and women. Then I found myself a partner that provided the thing that I learned are important to me in a relationship and in my sex life. Then I married him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:11 AM
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We generally ban prostitution in many places because it often invites predatory behaviors and trafficking, and because it can be seen as coercive if someone is destitute enough...which is a secondary layer on top of the above that complicates it ethically for many people (especially since the "women's rights" crowd is often on the side of "sex work is great" in the modern paradigm). What I find interesting about this topic is that some people (even in this thread) compare sex work to health care…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:06 AM
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Healthcare is a service that is paid for by the society for the people that need it because otherwise they would die. Anything that kills you if you don't get it should be provided for. Shelter, food, water, health care, etc. Basic human needs. Sex isn't a necessity. You dont die without it. Its a luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:58 AM
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I read this thread in my head with the voice of a nature documentary show narrator. That was funny. Would recommend.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:36 AM
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Porn isn't real
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:28 AM
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Or! Men could realise that porn isnt real.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:28 AM
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Which is fine. I am not telling men or anyone to lower their standards or be with someone they dont want to be with. But I wish this false propaganda of "men need to be hypermasculine providers for a chance of a relationship" would finally stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:19 PM
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Like porn. Sexual worship And now this idea that women aren't into men makes sense. Porn is the bar that women are supposed to jump over to make men believe they are desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 06:53 PM
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Choose better people to date or become a better person to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 06:49 PM
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Men don't have to be anything. But you have to provide something to be a selected partner. And the main issue is the women most men want will have higher standards when it comes to the provider mindset than the women that are invisible to men. There was a askmen thread a while ago that asked men why they are single. And the majority of the answers came down to "I am not attracted to the women that are attracted to me". Thats it. Thats the issue. Women only need to deliver something physical beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 06:24 PM
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What? you didn't copy paste my comment? I feel left out 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:08 PM
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My man lives in Berlin and doesn't realise men have the same social safety nets that women do. 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:47 PM
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Just commenting here to come back later and see if anyone replied. And if they reply based on stereotypes or actual personal experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:30 AM
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I have different treatments for different kinds of relationships. I treat stranger different from friends, friends from family, family from partners. The gender isn't really relevant in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:04 AM
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If you are seen as a victim you are also seen as incompetent. Which actually only further the need for help and funding. It is a cycle. Women are slowly breaking out of the gender bias of being seen as incompetent victims by taking on more typically defined masculine traits. Men on the other hand still refuse to take on more typically feminine defined traits. This is why OPs idea at all is receiving push back (if we leave out the way he is in other threads describing his idea and actually focus …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:54 AM
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But men dont trust women. It is just based on which topic you look at. Go into the ask men subreddit and talk about marriage and a bunch of guys will tell you its not worth it because women are more likely to initiate divorce and will take everything from you. When you go into the marriage subreddit you see a lot of guys talking about prenups to protect their assets. Prenups are very rarely pushed by women (yes you can argue that is because women on average will be the lower income one). The dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:21 AM
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This is true. But there is also the other side of the coin that does turn women into victims and makes them look weak and incompetent. This is the whole issue around gender based bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:14 AM
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They exist but are very rare. I was a photographer for 20 years and I did a lot of weddings and also my fair share of Bachelorette photoshoots. They were usually just fun. The ladies would ride around in a Limousine, get drunk, take some fun photos and maybe go to parties. When you have been at a lot of weddings you hear it all. I think the strippers thing is mostly Hollywood. What is more likely is just regular cheating. Your best mate is more likely to cheat with your soon to be wife than a ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:24 AM
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Happy cake day Lemon 🎉🎂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 02:55 PM
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It doesn't matter. Having sex early or later really doesnt matter at all if a relationship is successful. My longest relationship before my husband were 6 month. Terrible relationships. I had sex with my husband the first time we met. We are together 8 years now and married for 2. It makes no sense to put this much emphasis on sex. Its just one more thing to check for if you are compatible. You can be with someone for month and only then discover you are incompatible no matter the timing of sex.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 02:54 PM
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So nothing? You just try to use your bias as a way to make your claim believable. Come back when you actually have some data instead of anecdotes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 01:09 PM
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Thats not an answer to my question
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:54 PM
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What percentage of women? Do you have a number?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:45 PM
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At this point the majority of online content is generated by AI already. The only thing we can do is educated and keep ourselves grounded to realise this is all a business. Engage IRL. Real life community. They are slowly killing the Internet anyway. At some point people will turn away from it. The downside of that is: the world will never be as connected as it is right now. There are always pros and cons to everything
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:45 PM
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How much more?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:35 PM
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The reason isn't that men are toxic, violent and sexist. The reason is that these are the things that we see. Men have absolutely abysmal PR. So the loudest voices from men are the ones that are toxic, violent and sexist because thats what shown to women by the algorithm. Even if it is like 1% of men. Women are scared to engage with that if there is even the chance of that. Its the same thing why we have these constant threads of men being scared to talk to women because they are worried they ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:26 PM
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Happy cakeday lilith! 🎉🎂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 11:57 AM
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Urgh. I feared it would be something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:00 AM
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Do the women in this superpower fantasy consent to that? Or is it more a 🍇 fantasy without resistance?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:44 AM
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This threat is 2 month old. You commented to tell me "get over it". Are you okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:36 PM
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I'm just gonna copy and paste parts I answered from a month ago when a similar question was asked: This thought experiment would depend on a lot of things. If it was just me staying me but I would grow a penis and nobody knew I was a woman before it would probably result in similar outcomes to the ones men currently experiencing. Dating and approaching dont happen in a vacuum. Women on average are more cautious around men. Me growing a penis doesnt change the underlying social situation of that.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:00 PM
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Telegram Groups Shared Assault Videos of Drugged Wives Researchers spent six weeks early this year tracking nearly 2.8 million messages across 16 Italian and Spanish-speaking Telegram groups, according to a report by WIRED. During this timeframe, they identified over 24,000 members who collectively traded more than 82,000 pieces of media, including photos, videos, and voice recordings. Germany's NDR Investigation Uncovers 70,000 Men Sharing Sexual Assault Advice on Telegram They already doing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:48 AM
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See thats the kind of conversations I really enjoy on here. Not just "this gender bad" but more nuanced and looking at things from different perspectives. I had to fight a bit in the abortion thread too with some ladies because the topic is highly controversial. But that also makes it fun to talk about as long as it doesnt completely dissolve in hate. The domestic thing is really difficult to handle. I kind of blame the nuclear family structure for it where a lot of women lost their village and …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 07:03 PM
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Oh yeah! That one was a amazing conversation too! I love that one and the responses to that were really good. I was for the idea of paper abortions but had issues with the logistics of it and maybe you or someone else chimed in and said this should be dealt with pre-intercourse so everyone was on the same page if they still wanted to risk it or not. I am definitely for that. The cleanliness issue is interestingly one that might not be resolved but at least there can be spread awareness around it…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 06:31 PM
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Things like domestic violence statistics, male communication patterns, certain prison sentences, how to implement dna testing for offspring, sexist laws of 🍇, different responses between men and women when it comes to clutter and cleanliness, and probably some other stuff I can't really recall right now. There are things that I didn't realise men and women respond differently to and how it affected the genders. I was raised in a way to think that men and women are the same. But the older I get t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 06:13 PM
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I am aware of this. That doesn't mean I can't advocate for more equality and freedom worldwide. The good thing is that with the Internet we are more connected than we have ever been before. We can see the inequality in some countries. And other countries can see how bad their own systems are. 30 years ago you couldn't have a conversation on discord with someone on the other side of the world. Now we get livestreams of it and governemts have a much harder time hiding it. It is a fascinating devel…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 06:06 PM
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Naaah. Let them go wherever they want. A lot of the woman in their home countries use these guys and they have insults for them. The only thing I wish was that they were more honest with the women they pursue instead of future faking them. Personally I think we need to raise the standards of living world wide and make traveling and migration wherever easier. More equality world wide means it doesnt matter if you are a loser at home - you will be a loser everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:59 PM
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You can change your mind if you are confronted with evidence that you opinion is based on false believes. I changed my mind multiple times on here. But I don't expect others to do that. So I will mostly just try to have some interesting conversations instead of real debates.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:45 PM
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God no. You can't debate someone to change their own opinions about things they are convinced about. Thats like trying to debate someone about their religion. Its useless. Nobody responds to statistics or anecdotes or anything if their mind is made up. Change needs to come from within. It wont happen from outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:23 PM
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I questioned that before too and was informed that it is okay to ask ingroup questions if you are outside the group. Means red pill guys are allowed to ask blue pill guys and so on 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:17 PM
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Sometimes I have my husband read some of the threads on here. After almost every sentence he goes "no it isnt" and at the end he usually goes "what is wrong with these guys?". He is a very average blue pill guy. And guys on here would call him a simp and they have called him a beta bux. And yet he was basically never single. Maybe he is doing something right that a lot of guys on here dont understand and rather judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:14 PM
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What kind of debate it this? This is just a weird rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:53 AM
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Tbf. No matter where you are you will always receive criticism for your stands because there is almost nothing in this world that is 100% accepted as truth. I saw a reel the other day of a guy asking about things that do not generate any kind of debate. I thought saying "the northern lights are pretty" would be uncontroversial. Got a comment from someone saying they are overhyped and ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:35 AM
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I agree. Although the reason why people with low standards feel like they are more morally good is because they view themselves as the better person and they feel like they are sacrificing themselves to be with someone that doesnt actually enriches their life as long as they get that one thing that they want. People with high standards dont want to settle for someone that doesn't add to their life in multiple ways. It is the fundamental idea of how someone views a relationship and themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 09:59 AM
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I'm glad how many women are taking accountability by completely avoiding relationships ✨️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 09:26 AM
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I agree. Thats why when someone talks about an abusive ex some people's sentiment is "you deserved it for choosing them". You can take accountability and try to avoid abusive partners in the future. That doesn't mean anyone deserves abuse. Accountability is acknowledging and learning.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 08:19 AM
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What about that? I still don't understand why this is such a controversial topic for some guys to understand. Men that play war games don't actually want to go to war. They just like exploring the feelings of excitement you get from it. People that play zombie apocalypse games don't want that to actually be a thing. It is the exact same concept. But because women enjoy the simulation suddenly its controversial
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 08:08 AM
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It is simulating emotions. That is the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:51 AM
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Its also random monsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:50 AM
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It gives them the feeling. It is the fantasy. How does playing call of duty give men the feeling of being a war hero? By simulating it. It is a simulation. Why is that so hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:25 PM
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This sub is mostly for entertainment tbf. Its just fun to talk about gender bs. And my neurospicy ass actually gets to understand why 30% of men are unhappy about their dating lives and why half of women dont want to be in relationships anymore. Its a bit like going to a zoo. You have fun, you learn something, maybe you get a snack and you might even see something cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:07 PM
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Yesterday it was 20%. I wonder if that means my stocks go up or down if it is today 5% 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:17 PM
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Oh! We are down to 5% today? This is like a stock market at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:02 PM
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I think for men sympathy means actions while for women sympathy means emotional co-regulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:35 PM
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I think men are just bad at communicating what they mean by "sympathy". Because we all use that word but I'm pretty sure they mean something different than what a lot of women would understand when we talk about sympathy. Thats why when there are posts about how "nobody cares about lonely men" and they say they just want sympathy they dont mean what women mean when they talk about sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:25 AM
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Its a fantasy. Women are stimulated more by thought than just visuals. Thats why men watch porn and women read books. And stories have different characters and different plots. The idea that romance books are all the same is very sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:49 AM
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I agree. I think not enough people talk about their expectations for sex. This is men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:16 AM
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Spamming? What exactly makes my comments spam? Just because you don't like them doesnt make it spam. You seem confused about what a debate subreddit is
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:37 AM
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Why? Because you dont want to acknowledge that men are responsible for the majority of violent crimes? And that they are less likely to seek out mental health help? Ignoring reality and trying to paint it as feminist propaganda will not support your agenda
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:05 PM
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She would have to if she assumed I was a threat. Thats her job. She would have to have me involuntary checked into a mental hospital if there ever was the worry I was a threat to myself or others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:32 PM
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My therapist regularly has me sign a paper that I am not a risk for myself or others. Sure it is mostly for her to safe herself. But it is also a standard procedure to ask that. This isnt just a feminist thing. This is a mental health thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:33 PM
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Putting things into perspective in a societal context is part of the topic at hand. If you have an issue with that you dont have to keep this discussion going.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:21 PM
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If the criticism is just for womens fantasies and its not equally applied to men's then it is sexism and should be called out as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:55 PM
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Why is only female entertainment an issue but male entertainment isnt?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:34 PM
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The difference is that OP is stating that the "good behaviour" has to be earned. That isnt the same as retaliation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:31 PM
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I dont assume. Men keep saying this over and over and over. I believe men 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:57 PM
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They only do that because you aren't the one to earn that good behavior from them. Dis your post?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:54 PM
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Yeah. There will always be guys lining up to take on the socially stunted woman. As long as she has a vagina he can use he doesn't care about if she has a personality or a job or anything. Mens standards are ridiculously low.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:53 PM
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"You made me do this". This kind of thinking is the excuses abusers use. The way they try to tell their victims "if you were better I wouldn't do this to you". This is a very bad line of argument to go down on. I would not recommend to defend this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:50 PM
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Women dont have to follow that. Men will want a woman if she is hot enough. They don't care about her social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:45 PM
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Women are craving romance, passion and adventure. Its the same reason men love to play certain video games. Its excitement, heroic and adventure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:38 PM
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Men keep reminding us aaaaall the time how they build everything. And that women didn't contribute anything. If the thing you build is oppressing you, then you need to take responsibility for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:36 PM
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Men made society
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:33 AM
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Men suffer because of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:59 AM
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Its not about "where". Its about "how". I find men on average are just bad at approaching because they are too generic. The way to approach someone is by making it personal. I had a lovely conversation with a guy in the sauna before. We were both naked so that was a bit awkward and I am married, but if I wasn't I would've been open to more conversations. He saw me looking at the time table for the next steaming session and approached me asking if I was looking for something specific. I said I wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 04:02 PM
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When will men take responsibility? We are still waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:59 PM
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Read some of the responses in this thread and in others. The solution is always forcing women to somehow settle again with men they don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:10 PM
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Are you new here?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:05 PM
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Why is the radicalisation always about taking womens rights away instead of making the world a better place outside of procreation? Why is the glue that holds society together on the back of womens bodies? Pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:51 AM
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1990s? You seem confused about timelines of sexual freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:35 AM
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Who is at war? Who started the war? Why does everyone else need to sacrifice themselves for the wars men start?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:30 AM
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The Ukraine and Russia are feminist states?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:26 AM
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Yeah. Because the majority of people are stupid and just expect things to be a certain way instead of actually focusing on selecting for it. Which is why men end up in dead bedrooms and with gold diggers and women end up with slobs and man children. Selecting for a long term partner is a skill. Most people only learn that skill way too late when they already have sunken cost fallacy. Then they complain about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:14 AM
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The war being the root doesn't clear the second choice. Yes it does. Without the root the second choice wouldn't even exist. This is an entirely men made issue and you are trying to shift the responsibility towards people that have to deal with the consequences of this man made issue. Do men suffer from it? Yes absolutely. I dont deny that men are suffering from it. This again goes back that men are rather blame the consequences for their own systems on people that have to deal with the conseque…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:27 AM
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This is the same post we have almost everyday here. I wish you guys were a bit more creative with the gender and dating topics instead of repeating the same bs over and over again which has been discussed a million times. Its like a broken record. 🥱
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:12 AM
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Again. You are asking a state to sacrifice itself to fight a system that is a world wide issue. This is asking feminists to sacrifice everything because men on power dont want to stop killing each other. Why aren't you against the root of this issue which is the war itself instead of the consequences of this? This boils down to "what was she wearing".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:08 AM
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Again. You are looking at it in a vacuum. Thats not how the world works. You are trying to blame feminists for a system that was build and kept up by men. We would have to overhaul the whole system for it to not affect other areas and thats not what the men in power want. Hate the game not the players.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:54 AM
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This is nonsense Great argument And ah yes. Because patriarchy works so well for everyone 🙄. Which is why we have this post that complains about how men are getting drafted into wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:51 AM
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A man started the war in a patriarchal system that men have to suffer in. You are expecting a state to hurt itself by trying to change the world that is run by men. You can call out the hypocrisy but it seems weird to only view it in a vacuum of personal responsibility when its a whole world wide system that is build to support this. Men are more than welcome to change every government into a equal one but the men in power are supported by other men in power because the patriarchy rewards the hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:05 AM
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A woman in a position of power in a patriarchy has to follow the rules of the patriarchy to be in power. Thats the whole issue of the system that is in place. You only get into power in that kind of system if you play inside of the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:00 AM
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As long as men are starting wars, men will sacrifice themselves to fight in them. You can't have one feminist state and then assume the whole world is working that way. We would need the whole world to be on the same page to actually have the same rights for everyone. As long as men are starting wars for stupid reasons there is no way for actual equality. This would have to be a worldwide effort. We could be there already but especially religious fanatics and crazy rich people love to divide bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:29 AM
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Most people I see range from a 20% to a 60% physical attraction. Thata just your average dude. People below the 20% are completely out for me because they are instantly unattractive. If I interact with the average guy and his behaviour and personality is good he can easily gain %. A lot. Like a 20% guy can gain 40% by personality which makes him incredibly attractive. I had that happen before. Usually by them being very intelligent, articulated, funny, kind, etc. Then suddenly their physical app…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:16 AM
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Sadness over failure isn't feeling like your owed success. Bitterness is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:59 AM
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If you are bitter about something not being given to you you feel entitled because you assume you should have it. That is entitlement. You can be sad about not experiencing something without it turning into bitterness. The bitter part is what turns it into entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:48 AM
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Getting bitter about not getting it and blaming and insulting strangers and whole groups of people for not providing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:41 AM
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They would if its important. Can't just expect anyone to actually be like yourself and then be suprised they arent. While selecting a partner you even need to check for the absolute basics too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:38 AM
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Most women assume men are competent adults just to realise thats not the case. Thats why everyone has to learn how to properly prioritise what is important 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 08:50 PM
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That only comes up after you are already started dating. Sometimes only after you are moved in together.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 08:28 PM
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My criteria for my partner was "be kind, view me as a friend, endulge in my kinks and sexual preferences". Thats exactly who I married. Women know they can't have everything and a lot of the times they have to compromise on certain things. There is no perfection. So you have to find someone that fulfills what you actually want in a partner. Very rarely anyone things "is this person cleaning the way I want them to clean?" Unless it is a very specific want of someone it is probably kind of low on …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:22 PM
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Exactly. That is the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:03 PM
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I will not educate you on the current state of the world and why I think it isn't a good idea to bring more people into this. If you want to have children you are welcome to. I won't stop you. But I made my choice and I am very clear about being the end of my bloodline for multiple reasons. Having children doesn't outweigh any of the negatives I am observing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:55 PM
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I don't care to educate you. I said my pieces on your original point where you wanted to call out women for not competing for undervalued and unpaid labour they had to participate. You keep shifting the topic along and I have no interest in further talking about this with you. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:32 PM
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I see no reason to bring a life into this world. Its not even the pregnancy itself that I worry about. Its everything else. I don't look at this world and think "oh yeah, bringing another person into this is a good idea because they will have an amazing life full of happiness". When I talked with my mother about not having children in my 20s - she said she didn't even consider not having children as an option. I have this option. She said if she would have the choice today she would also decide …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:18 PM
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The richest woman in the world got her money off marriage. This world has the riches man in the world because he got money from daddy. This isn't a gendered thing. Some men are paying taxes to raise children that aren’t theirs. So do women. I dont have children and still pay taxes. Because p ussy is a privilege that can be leveraged to ply open almost any door, granted for free, at birth. Pussy privilege is only a thing if you use your pussy. Men are born with their male privilege and are blind …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:01 PM
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Exactly this. At least now women can actually get paid and dont have to tip toe around the male ego just to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:55 PM
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What does that have to do with anything? Is nurturing and caretaking compensated like the work men did? No. It was ridiculed and just expected. Women and men now get the same privileges of getting paid for the work they are doing. Thats all women wanted. This is why women had to compete with men and have to compete with men. Because society as a whole does not recognises unpaid labour as labour so women dont want to do it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:18 PM
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Women will do these things as soon as they get actually valued by society the same way evil middle management HR and stuff gets valued and compensated. Until then - nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:45 PM
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The issue with advices like this is that unsuccessful men will try to emulate what they see in porn or read in romance books. Which makes it cringe when they try to play these roles. Playing the part in a believable way means actually portraying it with someone that is attracted to them instead of playing the role for a stranger. If these things feel unnatural to themselves they will feel unnatural to others. Flirting and game is very rarely a "fake it till you make it" situation. At that point …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:26 PM
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We are talking about abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:37 PM
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Isnt that the same assumption as "just be happy"? Its the assumption of "its easy for you". My advice to people is to focus on the things they actually have control over and enjoy them and if there is love then that is a happy bonus instead of this all consuming goal that leaves you empty if you can't reach it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:32 PM
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Its not a sin wanting to be loved. Its a sin getting angry and bitter about not being handed the love you feel entitled to. Thats the difference. I was single for 5 years before I met my husband and I didn't expect to ever be in a relationship again until I met him. My perspective is coming from decentering relationships instead of an ivory tower. If all your focus is on circling around love and relationships you will be miserable if you dont get that. Whats the point? That is wasting so much ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:27 PM
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You can crave something in your life. But that doesn't mean it should consume your every being. Thats the point of "just be happy single". You shouldn't be miserable about something that is outside of your control. You can mourn the loss of the life you aren't having and then move on. We have that with everything in life that we are making decisions about. There is no use becoming bitter and resentful about something because you feel the universe is refusing to hand you something. That is the fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:18 PM
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There are a lot of people that have that mindset actually. And I rather not have children and people suffer if it can be prevented. I hate the idea of forcing someone into existence that is unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:25 AM
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In my mind it is: if you are against abortions you just want more children as victims for the epstein class. You want to see children suffer or you actively want to harm children. Which makes you a terrible human being. Watch some of the videos of what these people are doing to children and then tell me again how you are okay with giving them more victims. We know they are having trafficking rings that make children from orphanages disappear.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:03 AM
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I mean. RP specifically says women are the oldest children in the house. We have constantly threads about how women dont take responsibility and arent accountable 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:18 PM
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Tbf. I dont want to be an adult either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:30 AM
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This is a very personal preference. And if you aren't okay with the idea of her NEVER orgasm then that's a deal breaker. You are together long enough to understand this is a pattern. And hoping it would change is unfair to her and to you. You can't force this and you have to make the decision to either be okay with it or it is a deal breaker. Its that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 09:23 AM
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Personally I also dont always orgasm with my husband but he has no issue with it. I still enjoy the sex itself and I get lots out of it. OP said he doesn't enjoy his sex life if his partner doesn't orgasm. At the end of the day it is a incompatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 09:14 AM
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She needs to figure this out if she wants that. If she doesn't care about it, he shouldn't try to force it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:55 AM
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If you are unsatisfied with your sex life if your partner doesn't orgasm then that is a incompatibility. If she says she is happy with your sex life but doesnt orgasm and now you want to change your sex life because she doesn't orgasm that might make her sex life worse. Which is also a incompatibility. Maybe she enjoys the effort you put in but you dont enjoy the effort if it doesn't give you the results you want. This would be a deal breaker for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:36 AM
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Its not about the size of the ship but rather the motion of the ocean.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 07:37 AM
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Gonna be a lot of fridge moving for the 20%. They would be superman
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:53 AM
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😂 there are some of these on here sometimes too. Usually as a response to one of the really bad ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:51 AM
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It kind of devolves into that. If you want to enjoy your time here you pick and choose your topics or parts of topics and try to add your own opinions to it and debate on that. Otherwise there isnt much else around here 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:39 AM
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Thats what this sub is about. Have you not read the description?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:28 AM
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I dont think its a delusion instead of a counter movement of minimising women's contributions. When I was growing up and even nowadays I was told as an insult "go to the kitchen and make me a sandwich". Men have been using typical domestic labour as insults and minimising the contributions women had in relationships forever. Even if a woman was the "home maker" and did everything domestic and social her contributions were seen as nothing because that is what she was supposed to do while men were…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:26 AM
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There is no point if, because you just state something wrong as if it is a fact. Have a good one too
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:44 AM
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No its not
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:31 PM
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Absolutely. This is why I think these blanket statements of "just accept its this" is wrong and misses sooo much nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:19 AM
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Only because neurodynamic people don't understand nuanced and implied communication. Thats why BP is neurobasic advise. And neurodynamics think it is meant as black and white thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:09 AM
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Its also "choose better" when he doesn't do the dishes properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:08 AM
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I might confuse you, but are you the same woman that feels weird about having an orgasm in front of her husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:50 AM
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Oxytocin isnt just deployed via long term relationships. You get oxytocin also from petting animals. Try not to downplay the complexity of this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:07 AM
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The issue with nature vs nurture is that you can almost never 100% tell which is which. Especially when it comes to sex drives. It depends so much on environment, culture, nutrition, etc. That its hard to make a blank statement about anything. There are obviously biological differences but it is incredibly hard to tell how much any of that actually influences anything. We dont live in a vacuum. Pushing just one "truth" feels too simple for me personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:47 AM
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I agree with everything except point 1. Because just because you have casual sex doesnt mean your oxytocin receptors are being worn out. They are worn out by anything. They are lower in reception also in relationships so your body isn't responding as strong anymore. Thats what happens when you get out of the honeymoon phase. They also respond to aging which is why older people tend to feel lonlier because oxytocin doesn't hit as hard anymore. So the pair bonding stuff is a bit more complicated t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:14 AM
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So actions dont define who you are? Do you care about body count of a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:39 PM
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You didn't answer the question
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:13 PM
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I agree. But I'm an antinatalist. This isn't a mainstream idea. Especially on here where lonely men preach that everyone should be forced to couple up and procreate 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:37 PM
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I would never do that too amazing pizza.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:59 PM
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The president of the United States has a lot of power but no competence. I dont think women are on mass attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:14 AM
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I dont think they are the same. Power means influence and authority. Competence just means effectiveness, skill and doing something well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:09 AM
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Are you confusing competence with power?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:13 AM
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If you pay for a date you are showing who you are. Why are we pretending that actions aren't part of who you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:00 AM
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The first layer will be superficial because thats what you see first.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:37 PM
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How would you know the majority is superficial?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:54 PM
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No matter your sexuality. You dont want to be a part of it. Neither want women without consenting to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:24 PM
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If you have a checklist of 100 points, how likely are you to hit all points especially when some are more important than others?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:10 PM
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Do you feel comfortable if a much bigger man that is absolutely capable of overpowering you tells you what kind of sexual things he wants to do to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:01 PM
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Yes it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 05:13 PM
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Who is telling you the only bar that is rising is the superficial one?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:51 PM
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Its getting there. Its a slow process to decenter others.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 02:09 PM
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If men keep telling women that her choices are wrong is it suprising that the bar keeps getting higher and higher? And then we get men complaining about women having too high of standards and are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:55 PM
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Consent. The difference is consent. I am absolutely perfectly happy with my husbands sexuality towards me. I encourage it. I embrace it. I love it. A strangers sexuality pushed onto me? Not so much. I dont consent to be part of someone else's sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:52 PM
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Are we pretending like this isn't a thread about how womens options and choices get judged negatively no matter what?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:41 PM
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Isn't it weird the that the only solution acceptable to morality is violence? Isn't that counter productive to morality?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:29 PM
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Do you think it feels like a lose lose because technically they aren't an issue for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:27 PM
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Why? Also what wont I acknowledge?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:03 PM
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Do you think every disagreement results in violence between men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:58 PM
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What makes it a lose lose situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:55 PM
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I think it would be more like 1 guy would say that women shouldn't have rights, 2 would kind of agree with him but wouldn't say it out loud themselves, 4 would just say nothing, 2 would grumble something how thats probably not cool to say and 1 would absolutely lay into him what a horrible person he is. There is a bell curve of morality. Not just for men but also for women. Technically there is a bell curve for basically everything and most people would be in the middle and average. Which in thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:37 PM
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Is cleanliness the same for you as hygiene?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:25 PM
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How would you define the bare minimum, because at this point there seems absolutely no consensus on what it is and sometimes its such miniscule things that then become a 100 points checklist. At what point does the bare minimum becomes less of a bare minimum?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:23 AM
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The other day a woman on here was complaining how her husband doesn't properly clean the pots and pans. Guys on here told her she needs to divorce and choose better. And then we get threads like this that complain how a man has to be perfect and the bare minimum isn't the bare minimum and how everything gets thrown away over small things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:55 AM
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There we go. "Choose better".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:00 AM
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Thats what happens when you make someone responsible for the failing of others. If women complain about a certain behaviour of men the advice is always "choose better". Of course this raises the bar infinitely. I dont understand why that is suprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:43 AM
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Both are just viewing a woman as a means to an end. They dont see women as humans but as a product they can get by certain ways. Anyone that sees another human as that is just bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:00 AM
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Then you just get into whataboutism and that also doesnt help. The pink tax isnt just about the exact same product marketed for men and women. The pink tax is also products that only women have to buy like female hygiene products which men dont have to. Then men can say "sure you have to spend more money on hygiene but I need to spend more money on food because I need more calories based on my BMR". At that point you are just trying to argue nothing. The playing games thing isn't about how much …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:30 PM
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Bias, solipsism, history, victim mentality, actual victimization, knowledge of how flawed a lot of studies actually are, etc. Lots of reasons. This is also not a gendered thing. Do you think men that are completely sexless find it comforting to know that a minority of people dont have sex? Do you think a couple in a dead bedroom finds it comforting that dead bedrooms are statistically rare and usually couples have sex once a week? Do you think a woman that has been raped finds it comforting that…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:16 PM
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I think a lot of men aren't capable of actually tapping into the emotional maturity that a lot of women are craving while simultaneously generating excitement. And to be fair - it is kind of exhausting trying to be everything. Because women need safety and stability while also excitement to stay sexual. This is a very tough act to balance when it doesnt come natural to you. And then when men are feeling burned out from something they have to fake they drop down and women wonder why they stopped …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:39 AM
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Oh boo hoo As soon as you start anything like this I wont further engage in any discussion anymore because at this point there is no point debating. Now it just turns into emotional bad faith ranting instead of actual discussion. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:21 AM
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Why should women care if men call women hoes and whores, right? Because men have a history of violence against women especially the ones they deem unworthy. This is why comparing men's expression of frustration and womens expression of frustration isnt the same. Women that are frustrated with men avoid men. Men that are frustrated with women still want to use women. If the women said "a man that makes me feel good" then they would also be talking about an internal feeling, but they say "good men…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:39 AM
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I think Godzilla is like the dinosaurs from jurassic Park. It can change its sex based on what it needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:54 AM
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You'll also rarely see men who say they want peace, who then go chase women who talk non-stop and stir up drama. Then why are men complaining about the women that chase criminals (who are definitely drama) when they say they want peace? Why do they care? Also the idea that this just because someone states they want to be in a certain state of being makes it universal to just say "peace" when the actions to achieve this kind of state can vary a lot from men to men so what "peace" actually looks l…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:48 AM
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Taste is different than the definition of a social system. Although you need to have a certain understanding for everything to be able to communicate your thoughts properly. Now we are just coming to the issue of linguistic and the different meaning of words. Thats not a gendered issue. Because when you ask men what they want in women they will say "peace" and they all have different ideas what that exactly looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:55 AM
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Here is a some actual advice: Instead of asking random people for advice figure out who you are, how you want to actually show up in relationships, what you are looking for in a partner and what your deal breakers are. Then actually hold up those standards and show up as who you are instead of trying to portrait this generic caricature of someone that has no backbone because he is just a amalgamation of different advices in the hopes anyone will love him if he is just moldable enough. There is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:11 PM
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Why would you frame something out of your control as a failure? Failure itself is just a social concept and only if you define something like it. What you define as failure others could define as success or a lesson. It depends on the framing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:03 PM
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Its not a failure because there are things in life you can't control. No matter how hard you try.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:29 PM
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The incels are currently groomed into soldiers for ww3.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:28 PM
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Because I dont think this is about bad apples or intentional misdirect or being malicious. There is generic advice. There is learned advice. There is specific advice. And I understand that the nuance can be frustrating especially when it comes to socialising and romantic interactions. Especially for people struggling with these things. I think the main issue comes from the idea that for a long time everything was forced into just certain roles. And this started splitting more and more and more o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:21 PM
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I am confused what is supposed to be done about "mixed signals in the context of dating"? I could denounce that hypocrisy is an issue and most people are hypocrites at some point or another. We have examples of that all the time. "Do as I say, not as I do" comes to mind. It happens on every single scale of human interaction. Not sure how that is connected to cops and systemic policing. That seems to be a totally different issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:01 PM
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Big ick energy 🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:56 PM
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I mostly just brought the example that this contradiction isnt a gendered issue. Even if we say nobody is like someone else - there is also the thing where people change or dont react how they expect to react to things. Emotions are a very complicated thing. For everyone. I often think I would know how I would react to certain things and then I react much different and am suprised by my own reaction. For example: the other day a actor died that I liked a lot. I thought I was prepared for it beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:09 PM
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I once read a mini story of a cannibal that skinned his victims and cooked them and then used the skin as wallpaper for his place. Similarly flowery language is used in this as it was in the short story. Similarly nauseating. Thanks, I hate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 02:29 PM
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You want something and then not anymore because you decide you want something else. Its either contradiction or just flaky
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 02:25 PM
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Seems contradicting to me. But if you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 01:48 PM
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Men will say they want a equal partner in life and then cheat with the woman that is 10 years younger and has nothing. True story many many times over.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 01:17 PM
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I was debating with a guy on here a while ago. He told me women need to stay virgins to get one of the high value men. After some back and forth he admitted that only a small minority of men are actually good. After asking for a percentage he told me he thinks only like 10% of men are actually good high value partners and thats why women should stay virgins because these guys will want to have a virgin. Not even men believe there is a big demographic of high value men. So yeah. I agree. There ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 01:11 PM
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Surprisingly. Not all women want the same things. This is not a thing about "mixed signals", this is a thing about expectation and how the assumption is that all women should think and feel identical.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 09:18 AM
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If many men have 0% of the same experiences as other people that means they arent the only ones not having the same experiences as other people. At that point we can agree that it is actually a much more common experiences to not have the same experiences as others. So what is the issue? Is it feeling that you should be able to have the same experiences as other people despite many others not having the same experiences? Dunno what to say to the assholeness sentence since it has nothing to do wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 08:14 AM
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The reverse question is actually not necessary. Men keep answering over and over the same things. They would have lots of sex with chad and sell their body on OF and then settle for a BB when they want children.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 08:02 AM
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They could get out of the relationship if they wanted to try and have that happen in their 40s. Lots of men are replacing their wifes when they have a midlife crisis. It all comes down to the choices you make.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:52 AM
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You will never ever have 100% the same experiences as other people. That is not how life works. And this fomo thinking is just making your own life more miserable. Make the best of the life you are actually living without this constant comparison to other people. Everything else is just self pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:51 AM
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Yeah. People that decided to be in a monogamous relationship early would also miss out on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:43 AM
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Society also tells you if you aren't working hard enough you are a failure. Societal programming is a cancer. I hope at some point we can free ourselves from these expectations and just live a life that makes us feel good without performing to a random standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:41 AM
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I wanted to be a fashion designer when I was a kid. I wanted to be a jewelry maker when I was a teenager. I wanted to never have a car accident. I wanted to never experience sexual assault. I wanted to do more traveling in my youth. I wanted to be done with my university quicker. I wanted my self employment to be successful. You can want whatever. And you can try to make things work. But some things are out of your control for one reason or another. Being bitter about it helps no one. Life doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:22 AM
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I get that it can be frustrating not to experience something that is perceived as a "normal" path of life. But I find it weird to see that as a failure. Life isn't just one set path of experiences. There are so many things you can feel like you missed out on or you had to make certain choices but that doesn't change reality and trying to just make the best of what you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:16 AM
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What do you mean "failed"? Thats not failure thats just life. If I lost my virginity at 26 then I would've lost it at 26. I would still live my life. There is no guarantee for anything. You do your best, you try to enjoy the way of life as best as possible and you deal with everything as it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:20 AM
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Thats pretty much my relationship. Although I think my husband would protect me if necessary. But other than that we are just friends that are also intimate. We spend equal. Neither of us expects to spend on the other. He has very expensive hobbies he spends his money on which is perfectly fine. He doesnt wear make up but he goes to the barbers at least once a month to get his hair and beard trimmed. I am married to exactly what I wanted to be. An equal partner and friend that shares my sexual p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:51 AM
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Probably similar to how my dating life as a woman went. Had my first relationship experiences as a teen or at least some casual flirting. It would be so much easier because I wouldn't have to worry for my safety all the time. Go to university. Go to parties and have some casual flirts and flings. Maybe a random relationship here and there if it happens it happens. Trying to find something more long term, stable in my late 20s/early 30s via hobbies. Although with the freedom a guy has I would've …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:33 AM
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Sure. I am 2 years older than him anyway. I never cared about income or anything. Its nice that he has a drivers license and a job now, but I never pushed him to get either. It was mostly for his own comfort. Again. I never wanted children so for me the connection was always more important than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:29 PM
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This is very culture dependant. Both my brother and I had "youth consecration" (Jugendweihe) when we turned 14. Which was celebrated as like a step from childhood into adulthood. We had a family party and we both got some money gifted. If you have a Christian religion in germany you usually have a thing called "Konfirmation". Similar situation except its more religious. Most of these traditions are based on religious practices. Nowadays it feels weird to celebrate it because it isn't really a st…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:25 PM
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he was 26.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:12 PM
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I dont need pizza in my life. But I still want pizza because my life is better with pizza. Same with my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:42 AM
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I wonder how many of you have actually ever stepped up when someone needed help.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:29 AM
2

So this whole thread is just a rant
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:58 PM
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Then bad people walk away and good people help. That can be men or women. We already know that. So nothing changes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:56 PM
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Help for what? Most people just keep walking anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:49 PM
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How does "more selfish" actually looks like in this context for men? I was looking at the comments and you keep talking about voting, movements and protection. What does all of that actually look like in action?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:38 PM
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Friends has 10 seasons and aired for 10 years. Should be enough material to recognise how shitty he was. It also had millions of people talking and comparing notes on him. Maybe people should come with reviews and ratings.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:33 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:04 PM
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I dont know why you are responding to me so agressive when I am asking follow up questions. Especially when you didn't even answer my original question properly. Because I asked what a woman is supposed to do and you answered with things she is not supposed to do. Since you couldn't answer properly I have to work around to understand how that works. What do you expect when you arent properly replying to the things I ask. I will then have follow up questions. You are also replying to things that …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:03 PM
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I am responding in good faith. I am asking follow up questions. So if you pay her rent she should not complain about anything in the relationship? What if you dont pay her rent and dont buy her stuff or is that just something that you are automatically doing in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:53 PM
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Its so funny how people are defending Ross. He was one of the prototype nice guys that men always made fun of and he turned into the beta bux simp that RP made fun of. He was a walking red flag parade. He was a exhausting character. Is the bar really that low nowadays?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:50 PM
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Isn't the second paragraph kind of contradicting the first one? If she tells you things she is not happy with isnt that kind of egotistical and argumentative?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:39 PM
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Which topic? Loneliness of men vs women or how I use generalisations? Because you were the first one to derail the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 11:02 AM
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I see. Frustration it is. I hope you feel better now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:57 AM
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I saw the post. I read the post. I commented how this line of thinking has historical implications and how it has already affected people in the past. You came in and tried to make it personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:56 AM
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Do you want me to actually engage in your ragebait or do you just want to write out your frustration to make yourself feel better?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:43 AM
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Do you actually have anything to say to my points or do you just want to try to do a "waahh but you use generalisations!"? Have you seen me make a thread that says "men can't even begin to understand what real lonliness feels like"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:40 AM
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Whataboutism
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:18 AM
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Can you be less generic? Is she just sitting on your sofa doing nothing so she doesnt rock the boat? What actions is a woman supposed to do to make you feel the way you want to feel in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:10 AM
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Did we move on from "women arent straight" to "women dont feel emotions"? These kinds of lines of thinking turn women into "others" which makes it easer to not view them as humans, which makes it easier to use violence against them. This is the same kind of line of logic medicine used for POC and women. The idea that they "don't feel pain" was a wide spread issue for the longest time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:00 AM
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How would you say a woman provides stability and makes your life easier? What are the actions that make you feel that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:28 AM
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One where women aren't treated like a currency. Its funny that you think the only alternative to the patriarchy is a harem anarchy. There is no proof that is actually what happens without the patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:17 AM
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Patriarchy basically fights to distribute women And that is good?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 09:16 PM
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I like gossip. Spill the tea! I dont like bullying. My husband tells me the bullying that is happening in his team sports is just "banter". To me it just seems mean. I dont like that. Men are so mean to each other. I know men say thats how male friendships are and that they would die for each other but it always just feels so detrimental.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:51 PM
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Does that mean men in Deadbedrooms thats say they are lonely in their relationships are also larping? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:44 PM
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Nobody said anything about insult. Men just take any criticism as an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:57 PM
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Natural selection doesnt mean letting someone else from your own species die while you have an abundance of food.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:50 AM
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So you agree its a collective issue and not just the issue of the victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:31 AM
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Why is it women's responsibility to change men's behaviour that is an issue for women? That is just victim blaming. "It you don't want to be murdered you need to work to not being murdered".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:27 AM
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Okay good that I asked. We have different definitions. Greed for me is favouring your own interests inside a species about the collective survival of the species. Thats why I think humans are especially greedy because again we have people that own more than they would ever need to live comfortable while other members of our species are starving and dieing. That is greed for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:25 AM
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Can you give me an example of what you view as greed? Because I think we have different definitions of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:58 AM
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What species is as greedy as humans?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:49 AM
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Then women will just avoid men. As they are already doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 06:42 AM
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Women are having these conversations forever. And we are supposed to find different words and make it more clear. Just so men don't feel attacked. While also being called emotional. Men need to get a grip collectively and actually being able to have these conversations without feeling like a victim
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 06:39 AM
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It sounds like men need to learn to listen without feeling instantly attacked.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 05:57 AM
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Greed. The answer is just greed. We went from sharing everything to trying to own. And to justify our own greed we decided to turn it into religions and laws. Its always greed. We could all already live in an utopia, instead we got a trillionaire. Humans are a shitty greedy species.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 05:53 AM
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I am neurotic. But not that neurotic
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 05:37 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 05:36 AM
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Then no. Unless someone is intentionally mean like little boys in school, it would not be noticeable then. At that point the guy just becomes air himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:09 PM
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Dunno how many that actually are. Because the ones that pretend indifference would still engage more than the ones that are actually indifferent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:00 PM
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If a man has actually 0 interest in me he usually avoids any contact. He has nothing to gain so he doesnt interact. Even my male friends would take me up on the opportunity if I offered them something. If a guy has 0 interest you become air to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:48 PM
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Right? The way he was aging through supernatural was insane. I am still waiting for him to age out of his beauty but it hasn't happened yet!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:30 PM
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The only men that "peak" when they get older are the ones that were already hot when they were younger (👀 looking at you Jensen Ackles). Its always funny when men try to say they age like wine, when the majority of them age into vinegar.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:03 PM
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Yes, please! Stop settling for women you aren't attracted to. Because if attraction is all that matters you should at least value her for that. So stop settling. Stay single if you don't find someone you are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:58 AM
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We could've abolished all of that already. You don't have to pretend that its women stopping men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:03 AM
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"Notices" means recognise how a partner react to certain touch, sound, engagement and movement and either engage in it or stops it depending on the feedback without having to be told.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:08 PM
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Show me some statistics about the income of Canadian men vs. Women after they had a child. I'm curious if Canada is different when it comes to the overall trend of it. Maybe they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:56 PM
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The person that can actually read cues and respond to them fucks the best. It doesn't matter how many partners they had. If they notice the way a partner reacts it means they are probably the best partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:25 PM
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My husband is the same height I am (although sometimes he is slightly taller because he has a birth defect) and once he shaved and scared me because he looked like a teenager 😅 but he is funny and kind and loving and social and has so much empathy for everyone and views me as an equal. He is amazing. And guys on here call him beta. Men on here just want to hate on other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:15 PM
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No answer. Just avoidance. What a waste of time to comment. Do better
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:24 PM
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No worries. I try to see it from all perspectives. Its not always fair or balanced. It just is what it is in the system we are in right now
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:47 PM
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Personality means empathy and identification in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:44 PM
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We had beheading before for our leaders. Pretending that anything of this is new just because it involves new technology is naive
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:30 PM
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I do say the same thing about men. The only thing men are currently behind women is finding a identity that isnt centered around the other gender. And because they aren't they are lost in their identity. They are the pull back. And women follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:16 PM
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Nah. If you learn anything about history you can recognise the patterns very easily. Its okay. I think thats part of human nature. Which is why sometimes people say "good times make weak people". And its true. As soon as you hit a spot where it feels like "oh! This is nice!" You get complacent. It happens in relationships, it happens in politics, it happens everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:14 PM
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For me, women are hot. They usually already have a personality I can connect to no matter how hot they are. So when I went for women - they are soft, and delicious and smooth and all that. For men they are strong, funny, charismatic, the shoulders, the big hands, the chest... there is a lot. If they have some more personality thats a plus. Which a lot of men just dont offer. Then again its much easier to find a guy than a girl as a woman. Thats just a selection thing. You get 10 guys that are at…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:12 PM
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I think you assume history works linear. It doesnt. It comes and goes in waves. We will repeat history. Learn a little. Repeat. Learn. Repeat. And so on. We are currently in a fascist uprising. Germany is for instance repeating what it did 100 years ago. Even if women are being enslaved again. There will be another uprise until we either figure this out or we go extinct. I assume we will keep doing what we are doing until we go extinct. But I cant predict it and nobody on here will be around to …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:04 PM
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Are we forgetting how indoctrination, brain washing, bargaining, identity crisis, propaganda, literacy crisis are working? We are completely ignoring centuries of set path by the patriarchy? You can't take accountability for other people's choices. If they decide womens rights are worth nothing then so be it. I am not keeping this going. I can only advocate and inform. The choices are individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:57 PM
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They are already doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:34 PM
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Women on average aren't the violent gender. The uprising of women is more quiet. They are checking out of carrying the responsibility of society on their shoulders. Thats already happening. Which is why the infringement of their rights is happening. Im curious to see how long you can push a trapped animal into a corner until it starts biting you. We are seeing the decline in birthrates and everything. So an uprising is more passive than active.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:29 PM
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I guess it might also "feel" like hypergamy got "worse" nowadays because of the social isolation the nuclear family structure brought in. Before it was multiple generations in one home (thats still the case in some cultures), so the grandparents helped raise the new generations while being taken care of the younger generations. Everyone living in the same place ment you don't really have to worry too much about what happens to you when you age. If you pop out enough kids, someone would take care…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:50 AM
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Hypergamy isnt really about having someone "better" nowadays. It is about someone that can give you the guarantee that they will be able to keep up your lifestyle when you have to sacrifice your income to pop out children. And the more educated and financially free women become the more the partner has to be able to balance that out. For women that dont want children that doesnt matter. When I met my husband he didn't have income, he didnt had a drivers license and he basically had nothing. I di…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 09:27 AM
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Yep. Womens immune system is also different to mens. So while men can actually live in filth without it affecting them - women will be more likely to to have a stronger immune response. So if a living environment isnt clean enough a women will get more likely sick from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:25 PM
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Show me a actually study that the violence is female on female. Because most of these studies always record "in lifetime". Which does not mean it is necessarily female on female violence but also lesbians that exited a heterosexual relationship and came out afterwards. Thats just numbers manipulation. And again. We are talking here about baggage. The OP wants to disqualify people for baggage and then has no issues adding more onto others. You are trying to shift the topic. Which is just bad fait…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:10 PM
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Divorce counts as baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:27 PM
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A 10+ year age gap is tied to a 33% divorce rate, but when the gap stretches past 20 years it jumps to 46% Unless he dies in the next like 10 years and leaves her a very big inheritance she will waste her life with a guy with genetically inferior sperm if she wants children. If they have children he will not be able to properly take care of them and the likelihood they develop issues and the pregnancy will be brutal on her will be very high. Then she spends the rest of his life as his caregiver.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 12:48 PM
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Its a choice. Not a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 11:53 AM
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I partially agree. Sex is not a need. Fidelity is a moral choice. If you dont get the sex you want you dont have to cheat, you can just exit the relationship because cheating is a thing that is showing up on your character sheet. Not on your partners. Them refusing sex with you shows up on their character sheet, not yours. Leaving is the logical option for both of these. If a partner doesnt want to have sex they should leave. If they dont, you leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 11:35 AM
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I got slut shamed as a teen. I got slut shamed as a young adult. I just got basically slut shamed like 2 days ago on here when there was a thread about how certain male behaviour left mental scars on me. I gave some anecdotes of my first three relationships as a teen. And in comes a guy saying this is why promiscuity shouldn't be a thing. Even when I said that I was in relationships with the guys he said they weren't real relationships because they were short and it would be good if a family mem…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:31 AM
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I would be suprised but it wouldn't change anything. He could go to pride with me as a participant instead of an ally 🏳️‍🌈
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:35 AM
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You started this thread with the introduction of your own experience and that you are with a teenager because she has less baggage. You are giving her the baggage that you are mentioning older people have. How is that ad hominem? If you don't want your own experienced used as a talking point you shouldn't have provided it as a talking point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:03 AM
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Its always fascinating to me when people recognise the pattern that younger people have less emotional baggage because they had less experience but then turn around and try very hard to become the emotional baggage for these young people. Thats the predatory part that makes age gaps so weird. Its an imbalancd in experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:12 AM
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I wouldn't be friends with someone like that. I do have family like that, but the contact is minimal. You aren't choosing family. But I did have sex with people like that because, as I stated before "horny brain goes brrrrr" Thats why casual sex for shitty men is easier if they are hot. And if they are hot and shitty but they can hide it, they might even get into relationships. Thats also why my standards for relationships are higher than my standards for hook ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:05 AM
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What do you think this post is about?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:42 AM
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Yeah, seriously. Which is why sometimes my sentence structures are a complete mess 🫠
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:57 PM
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Maybe check out the history of incels. Then you would understand why the narrative is the narrative. And yes it is a unfair biased generalisation because again - a small minority ruined it for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:09 PM
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Ah yeah. I can see where the confusion would come from. English is not my first language. I sometimes have to google these things too to make sure I dont get it wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:07 PM
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That the narrative started with misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:39 PM
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Do you have proof of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:35 PM
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Just because the sexes are different doesnt mean one is better than the other. The patriarchy is a hierarchy with men higher than women. That puts pressure on men to perform a leader role while it puts women in a submission role. We can acknowledge that the sexes have differences without putting one as more important than the other. Which means men and women equally value their individual contributions. But because the patriarchy promotes hierarchy men dont want that. They want to be superior an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:33 PM
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Read my other reply to OP. I explained it there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:24 PM
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Yes. Attraction is not moral. Behaviour can influence attraction but that doesnt necessarily correlate
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:23 PM
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I just explained that it is based on a cultural narrative and also bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:20 PM
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That is just assumption based on pattern recognition. It is post-hoc but we have seen it play out many times that if a woman says "no" the guy reacts in a very negagive way that can even end up being violent. Because of this persistent narrative there is now the assumption that if you aren't selected there must be something wrong with you even if you arent reacting in a negative way. Its the incel narrative and a lot of men are suffering from it for no fault of their own just based on gender ass…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:25 PM
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Attraction is amoral. The reaction to attraction or selection can be viewed in a moral way. If a woman isn't attracted to a guy and he calls her a "stuck up bitch with unrealistic standards" he puts a moral assumption on a amoral attraction. In that case his reaction to being unselected is what makes it moral. Not the lack of attraction itself. If someone views the other gender as "evil" for not being attracted to them, they are assigning a moral where there isn't any and the reaction itself tur…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:13 PM
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Poor guy. Although depends on what universe law the story is using. Sometimes they actually go with animal laws where they have a "batch" of babies in one pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:45 PM
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I have seen this mindset being talked about by men. As far as I can tell their assumption is that women are made for penetration and therfore all penetration is natural and enjoyable to women. Also because victims do sometimes orgasm from it it is viewed as something positive. For the male victims that is usually only "not affected" if a woman is the perpetrator. Thats where all the comments of "lucky guy" come from when a male victim of sexual assault by a woman comes forwards. All of that is o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:40 PM
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😂 sometimes I think mpreg is a bit of a revenge fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:32 PM
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They led me to my husband. Who is the most wonderful person I have ever met. He made every lesson I learned worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:54 AM
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Some of the tags in my favourites should be considered crimes against humanity 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:49 PM
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I'm confused. Are you asking if women are equally as perverted as men? Yes they are but most of the deprived stuff is kept to fantasy. I have read some fanfictions that would make guys toe nails curl. The difference is between imaginary and reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:26 PM
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True. They have to ship like crates of condoms or something. Its so funny
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:06 PM
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I was just googling it again to link it. 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:19 PM
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Of course. Generational trauma hadn't been really been studied when my mothers father fled the country and left her mother with 3 children which my mother had to help raise.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:19 PM
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Yeah. Seems that being taught to hate men is a virtue that girl with bad fathers dont really learn until later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:18 PM
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She would've probably won gold for something
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:15 PM
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If society was bowing down to the every whims of women the people in the epstein files would have faced a public slaughter. Yet here we are. Nothing happened. We would also have much more care for people because women are overwhelmingly social leaning. It would be nice if women actually had some power.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:14 PM
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Incels are involuntary celebate. Cat ladies are voluntarily celebate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:28 PM
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My mother is in her 3rd marriage. She has no idea how to vet a guy. Some of us have to learn how relationships work the hard way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:49 PM
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I guess if I had a proper father role in my life he may have taught me to be more hesitant to trust men. You life and you learn 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:48 PM
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Every experience shaped how I continued to interact with the world. I learned some lessons. I became more hesitant to be trusting. I learned what things are important to me in relationships and what red flags I have to pay attention to. For me relationships are a skill that I had to learn. I didn't have that modelled for me. At some point I even gave up and just focused on myself to figure myself out. I was celibate for like 5 years before I met my husband. I still have some insecurities but bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:47 PM
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Women choose the lonely cat lady identity. You like that more?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:35 PM
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My maker is dead. He drunk himself to death. So that potentially had some influences on my relationship experiences I agree to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:20 AM
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It is pretty fascinating to me how you view my experiences and what parts you choose to focus on and how you describe them. Did you grow up with a single mom?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:18 AM
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I was in relationships with all of these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:21 AM
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If thats how you view these experiences thats up to you. You are entitled to your opinion. Thats not how it effected me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:21 AM
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I wouldn't necessarily call myself a good person. I also caused harm in relationships and to people in general. And then you learn and grow and recognise the things you've done and take accountability. I think bad things come with good lessons. Without all of my damage and lessons I wouldn't be the person my husband loves so in that way it was worth it. I hope you can find someone too 💜
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:09 AM
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Yeah. The majority of my relationships scared me in one way or another. The only one that didn't is the one with my husband. Thats why it is still active 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:01 AM
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I think its good to hear the other side, mostly because sometimes the assumption is that one side has it better than the other. Anecdotes can help people realise "maybe we aren't that different and the grass isn't actually greener". As long as it doesn't turn into a victim Olympics talking about these kinds of experiences can be helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:52 AM
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The first three boyfriends I had caused some damage. I was between 16 and 19 at the time. The first one was my first sexual partner. I was in a lot of pain during the deed and white knuckled through it anyway. Afterwards I was scared and didn't want to do it anymore. He broke up with me because of that. The second one ghosted me after a month. I had a conversation years later with him. He said because he joined the military he didnt believe a weekend relationship would work. So he just didn't re…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:15 AM
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Men are allowed to have male only clubs. There is for instance the organisation "should to shoulder". Its a male community. The replacements of women with porn, AI and sex workers is a different conversation. Because it comes with pros and cons. I live in a country that has legal sex work. Sadly a lot of sex workers are still victims of assault because men feel entitled to it because they are paying for it. It is the discussion about the usage of someone elses body for your own satisfaction and …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:53 AM
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Men have pushed back against the emancipation because women decided to embrace the "lonely cat lady" identity, which leaves men feeling left behind. Women are pushing back because men still want to have sex with women but live the single life. Gender equality would be men finding their own identity to embrace without it involving women and relationships in it. But instead of viewing it as a positive life full potential adventures and loving community they view it as a negative incel experience. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:32 AM
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I think its a result of our increasingly isolating society. I also blame social media for it. Because on average you see a lot more negative things on there. Normal happy relationships are kind of invisible. Nobody is posting about their normal everyday happy life (unless its a very specific type of influencers) and even then they usually dont get nearly as much exposure as drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:19 AM
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Thanks guys! Im curious to see the mind bending trying to work around that rule. That will be interesting to watch 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:16 AM
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I wanna see the Olympics for that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:14 AM
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Men get the same benefits from being in LTRs. The wish to get married is so women have more security while providing the benefits. Technically you can have children and shared household and everything without being married. And governemnts will recognise your relationship status as a long term relationship when it comes to break ups and stuff. But there is a loooot of other stuff that goes in when you are legally bound to someone via marriage. For instance if you are "only" a long term partner y…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:03 AM
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This is only an issue if you get with a man that has no options
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:43 AM
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Men have trouble finding their identity in a world where they want to have relationships like their grandfathers but women dont want to have relationships like their grandmothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:15 PM
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If we are only paying attention to the people around us we would just accept some very shitty situations and people. People dont understand consequences unless they actually experienced them first hand. We can try to communicate how certain things feel but unless you actually experience them you can only get a vague idea about it. And I will keep bringing up the neurodynamic difference when it comes to that because I see the pattern repeated for lots of them. And I personally think that a lot of…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:07 PM
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What implication? I’m not seeing the implication.. The implication of "being nice is a good thing to be on average but even if you are nice that is not a secure way to get sex". With each other. Is wanting a nasty unpleasant person around you the goal? How would these men know what kind of women they are getting if they never get the chance to even see the results? They only see it from the outside. And from the outside they see a nasty unpleasant person still is more sexually successful than th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:54 PM
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I am implying that neurobasic people understand the implications without it having to be stated explicitly. Because they understand the typical pathways and expectations. They understand the expectation and can just easily follow them because they tend to understand normalised expectations without having to question why something is the way it is. That is not the case for neurodynamic people. They will get advice or a task and might question the logic behind it and wont understand why something …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:28 PM
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They get confused about the implications. I blame neurobasic communication for that honestly. The "you dont get a gf because you aren't nice" is way too generic and it kind of sounds like it implies you only need to be nice to get a gf. Its too vague. Its a bit like when you have a conversation via email with a neurobasic person in a company and you do what they ask you to do but not something they assume is implied and then they try to gaslight you with "well obviously it also meant that!" And …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:16 PM
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Yep. Also 🍇 kits could be processed much quicker and effectively with a proper DNA database.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:48 AM
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Yeah. I think its the fair solution. Women will then find out if the father of her child did a criminal thing or abandoned another child or anything like that. Its the same concept as the man getting knowledge if she cheated on him. At least this way everyone would have the same issue. If a woman is hesitant on the DNA test the guy will accuse her of hiding something. If the guy is hesitant of getting a DNA test the women will accuse him of hiding something. At least it would give the situation …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 10:12 AM
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Sure why not. If you got nothing to hide just show everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:44 AM
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Good. I'm sure only the bad actors will be in trouble if we make DNA testing and crossreferencing mandatory. And afterwards everyone feels saver and relieved. Thats how it will be equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:37 AM
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No. Its just the same argument. Women shouldn't worry about DNA tests if they have nothing to hide. Neither should men 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:13 AM
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What about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 08:56 AM
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And you think this is a issue just for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:50 AM
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No. Not a probleme. I just think its fascinating that "compromising on something my partners is interested in" is the thing that comes to your mind when asked about what is something you dislike about your imposed gender role.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:41 AM
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DNA testing could be made mandatory and then the male DNA is crossreferenced with any crime and exisiting child. I think thats a fair compromise. This way the guy is safe that the child is his and the woman is safe she isnt with a criminal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:25 AM
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So your issue from your gender role is that you are making a compromise on something you dont really care about? That is the answer to the OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:17 AM
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A compromise is not that you engage in something that you hate. Then you are in the wrong relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:37 AM
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My guy. Your whole thread is explaining how mens type is only based on physical attributes and then you try to deny it? Some guys say they like a Slavic, big, petite, goth woman; the next guy likes a small, big-breasted, blonde woman with conservative clothing; the next guy says wants a flat-chested, small tomboy. Thats okay. We know that men mostly vet their partners on physical attributes. They very rarely care what kind of person their partner is. how the hell woman filter by mental type? You…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:35 PM
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I think a lot of men severely underestimate how much type is influenced by behaviour for women. Because women rarely only use physical attributes as a way of attraction. Sure there is a baseline of type for every woman but if the behaviour of that type is not to a womans liking she wont be attracted to him. So if a woman says she is attracted to slender, long haired guys but he behaves like an alpha male podcast bro that could be a disqualifier. For men that doesn't matter as much. As long as sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:19 PM
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You are spending money and engaging in something you dont enjoy at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 07:17 PM
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Traveling alone
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:52 PM
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I could assume that but we have data that proofs that it is sexism. If it was just my experience I wouldn't have brought it up as a gender issue without having knowledge that it is a gender issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:18 PM
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I think the one that is most annoying to me at this point is my pain response expectation. I have very painful periods. So I am used to controlling my response to pain. I had to smile while almost passing out from pain. But when I tell my doctors about my pain I am not taken serious because I dont behave like I am in pain. It led to me now overexplaining everything about myself. So when I am seeking help for anything (physical or mental) I have to describe in excruciating detail what is going on…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 04:55 PM
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It is always fascinating to me what is deemed as a acceptable level of violence against someone else from some men. Apparently this lack of empathy comes from their fathers. Because their fathers taught them to be "manly" which resulted in the stunted growth of emotional intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:38 AM
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I dont think the women that support the patriarchy are stupid. I think it is a certain self hatred, lack of self esteem and lack of empathy. The idea that you are being taken care of and dont have to invest yourself into critical thinking can be very comforting to some women. Its the hope that the results will be positive for them. They dont even think they are good enough to be in control of their own lives. For some people in general the idea of just following rules and predetermined paths in …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:26 AM
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Do you think emotional manipulation and emotional stimulation are the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 07:06 AM
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But because of dread, she became sexual and submissive It may not be very healthy relationship but a relationship where sex is a struggle is definitely not a healthy relationship. Your own words
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 07:00 AM
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Yep. I think most of our social issues could be at least shrunken down if we invested taxes into offline third spaces that are actually enjoyable to engage in, easy to reach and free or at least cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:58 AM
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Or according to your own thread here - emotionally manipulate her in the hope she will fuck you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:56 AM
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The majority of the people in here that think like this are mostly just bitter and brainwashed. Its actually interesting to look at subreddits like exredpill to see that the majority of them get out of that as soon as they find some real life connection. Sadly the modern algorithm and social media is designed to make you angry. I saw a reel of a transguy that lost most of his friends when he became trans and he wanted to appear "manly" so he was looking up videos on "how to tie a tie" and "how t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:51 AM
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Its a thread from like 14 hours ago called "Would women still get married if they were legally mandated to frequently have sex with their husbands?"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:43 AM
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They hide their views offline. Although at least at this point some of them let it slip here and there because of how proud they are of their beliefs. Which is helpful but sadly not enough. Its the typical "we wouldn't every have expected it!" That the neighbours and friends say.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:34 AM
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23% of divorced people state that "lack of commitment" is the reason for the divorce. Dread is a perfect way if you want to end your relationship in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 05:36 AM
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They end up poor for having to leave relationships. Would you want someone to sacrifice their life to make someone else's better?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 05:21 AM
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Do men not have any friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 05:59 PM
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Thats why its called "male loneliness epidemic" despite women being equally lonely. But its is not an issue because of the lack of violence involved with womens issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:54 PM
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Women on average are more interested in interpersonal relationships. For the longest time they also weren't allowed to participate in male dominated interests (to a point they still arent welcome). Women tend to also be more introspective. The inner thinking of people is more interesting. Men on average are interested in the outside world and technicalities than their inner world. Which can be an issue when it comes to communication. A lot of it also comes down to gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:42 PM
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It is not meaningless. It is a label that people use to explain who they are attracted to. Again. It has nothing to do with the intensity or frequency of their sexuality. Men that are in a male only prision for 10 years arent just suddenly not heterosexual anymore just because they didn't get the opportunity to display their label. The idea that you can deny someone else their own identity because they dont portrait it in a satisfying way you deem to be acceptable is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:33 PM
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If we use the same term - 'heterosexuality ' to describe both genders, then both genders should exhibit it to a recognizable degree, yes. I don't think this is logically flawed or unreasonable. Heterosexual is a label about which sex someone is attracted to. It does not define the intensity or frequency of that attraction. So it is a logical flaw that you make a conclusion on something that is not incorporated in a label. Gravitation to certain interests has nothing to do with sexuality either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:22 PM
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I assume that makes it harder. My main issue is the frequency of these posts that completely deny women their own sexuality and identity. If it was actually about LGBTQ+ and the discussion around gender identities in that way it would at least be interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:16 PM
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You seem to be still under the impression that men and women are supposed to behave the same and you completely reject the idea that they are not. Which in turn you conclude makes womens attraction to men invalid. That is the same talking points some women have that say men dont like women as humans but only as sex objects to be conquered and purchased. Would you say that is justified as an assumption about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:13 PM
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There is no female equivalent because men and women aren't the same. That doesnt make straight peoples orientation invalid. Would you say a guy that doesn't engage in the industry around the female body is gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:03 PM
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We have either like one of them with like 3 accounts or multiple of them. But I assume with the new regulation it will finally become less again.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:00 PM
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Thank you! 🎉
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:57 PM
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Yes. At least we went a couple of days without "women aren't attracted to men". I think it was like... 3 days? Maybe. I lost track.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:52 PM
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Im not straight so I can never really relate to people saying they are grossed out by the idea of having sex with the same sex. But the differences between sexes seem pretty obvious to me? Men and women are different when it comes to certain characteristics. The feel of skin underneath your fingertips is already a very different one between men and women. Smells. Organs. Pleasure zones. So many differences. To me neither is superior and the personality would always matter more than the body whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:35 PM
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Thats something everyone struggles with. What is womens role supposed to be in that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 11:20 AM
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What struggles make men feel hopeless?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 11:16 AM
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It is a perceived unfairness. They see that men dont care about the personality of the women they want and only about the looks and they feel it is a moral failure if women to do the same or if they care about more than looks. All of that shouldn't be allowed. This is why they assume a 5 as a man in terms of looks should be equal to a 5 of a woman. Because they purely count looks. It is actually pretty fascinating when you dive deeper into it because they would accept so much shitty behaviours f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 07:06 AM
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I know. I'm just joking because this thread is going to get nuked for being a looks thread anyway. No need to invest any real input. I understand the wish to have a certain fairness in life. I think we can make the dating process as equal as possible (everyone pays for themselves, planing together, etc), that wont change the fact that attraction isn't a fair thing 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 05:49 AM
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What do you think are the reasons for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 05:43 AM
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The incels of 4chan did a sorting chart back in the day. Maybe OP wants to use that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 05:31 AM
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Thats why I asked for clarification. Which you for some reason tried to turn into a strawman. I think it is deeply concerning if a comment talks about heinous acts and mindsets towards women and then it gets waved of as a "boys will be boys". No. I expect men to not be like that and normalising any of that as not a big deal or how it is normal for men to think and behave like that is disgusting misandry. The majority of men do not think this is okay and I wont just let that slide.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:19 PM
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Yes. And the OP replied to that comment with You cant just demonize young men for being men So I wanna know if that should be considered normal male behaviour. Because replying to a comment like that with "well its just young men being men" is a very misandrist way to view men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:06 PM
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You also didn't seem to read the comment you are replying to. Is this a literacy issue? I asked if the behaviour stated in the original comment is normal male behaviour. I didnt mention anything about hate. I am pointing out that if we normalise behaviour stated in the comment as "normal male behaviour" that is an issue. Dont strawman me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:01 PM
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You cant just demonize young men for being men Did you read the comment you replied to? Would you classify the behaviour stated in that comment as "just men being men"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:09 PM
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Vs reality:
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:59 PM
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That random dude getting lectured:
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:46 PM
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Because it sounds like a "you aren't good enough and if you just forget your ego and be better maybe we could all be happy". Who would like to hear that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:30 PM
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Idk. You are welcome to suggest alternatives
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:30 PM
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Alpha is based on a hierarchy thinking of a redacted wolf study (which the author of that study spend years afterwards trying to discredit because it was false and became weird narrative). Alpha views himself as better than others. "The Alpha leads". Funnily imo it is more prevalent in very specific fanfictions and books. Although the majority of these tend to have mostly male protagonists and gay couples. Its interesting that you would put that in the same category as Baddie. I never considered…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 09:36 AM
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Maybe stop centering your entire existence around women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 09:20 AM
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Thats just male hierarchy talking again.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:32 AM
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Thats what happend with going dutch on dates. More women are willing to pay their share on dates and dont care about it anymore. Men just have to advocate for it from the perspective of helping women. Women advocate against tradwifes for instance despite men trying to frame it as something positive, because it leaves women vulnerable to abuse. Just advocate for more equality like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:18 AM
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Social shaming is effective. Otherwise we wouldn't have these age gap threads in here trying to defend them against social shaming. Because it is legal to engage in them. It is just shamed by society. If men dont want to date moneyless children they can advocate for it and shame women that are trying to turn their partner into a parental figure. Women are doing the same by calling men that dont pull their weight "man child" and "leave him". Men could do exactly the same and make it a big topic t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:11 AM
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So men get stuck in relationships with children with no money? Wouldn't it be better then to advocate for more equality instead of trying to justify age gaps?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:58 AM
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Does that mean men want a child figure without money?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:49 AM
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If you wouldn't have friends of your own gender with that age gap, you shouldn't try to have a relationship with someone with the same age gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:47 AM
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What man hate? You made a statement and I want to see recipes for it. You cant just say stuff on a debate forum without having facts to proof it. What is your definition of "cherrished"? Because my my mother and grandmother were 🍇ed in their marriage. Marital 🍇 was made illegal in 1998 in my county. I was 10 years old at that point. My mother had bloody nipples from the assaults of my maker. I want your sources of the cherrished because my anecdotes and your anecdotes mean nothing. And just to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:29 PM
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Thats not a source. Thats fiction. How many stories and songs and books are there about elves and wizards and fairies? You still shouldn't just assume its reality without proper research. Thats how we get to conspiracy theories.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:08 PM
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Exactly. The devaluation of other strength is not a positive for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:01 PM
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Women were always cherished Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:57 PM
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Thank you for your introspection. I agree with everything you are saying. I think the knee jerk reaction is normal. It might feel like I am attacking men when I am just stating the things that I am observing. Competition can be beneficial and fun. It becomes detrimental when people assume they have a higher value overall than just in the actual field they are partaking in. Thats my main issue with the competitive part. I still want the best person possible to do research on medical stuff. That d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:44 PM
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This wont go down well with the men on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:20 PM
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This thread is a month old. Others you have commented toward my replies were between 10 days to 1 month. The pattern is obvious. Please stalk someone else instead of my profile. I know a lot of profiles are private nowadays but that doesn't mean you need to go through my comments and pick out random comments especially if you just want to insult me. Have some self respect. This is pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:19 PM
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Did you just go on my profile to stalk every thread I commented in so you could give your opinion about everything I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 04:40 PM
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Its not. We have studies how female leaders are more focused on community than competition. Again. Women have nothing to do with this. Stop trying to push women into this discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 04:05 PM
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And I think think thats the wrong solution. We can talk about shitty behaviours without throwing a whole demographic under the bus for it. That would help calling out shitty behaviours
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 04:01 PM
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I dont agree that men are more selfish. I think men assume other men are more selfish and thats why they assume they are justified to compete with their own assumptions about other men. Nothing of this has to do with women so please stop trying to push women into this debate when they are not a part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:58 PM
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This is basically what I am talking about. I am talking about male hierarchy and competition and you tried to throw in women as a factor when it is completely unnecessary to even count women into this equation. We can recognise patterns even without having to compete them against other genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:55 PM
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I mentor a number of young men that still carry this attitude. "Cross the street" "Take the next elevator" type stuff. This always makes me so sad. Nobody should feel uncomfortable around another human. And the idea of being feared just for existing is devastating especially for boys and young men that are just learning to deal with their own emotions. I'm sorry you have to do this...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:32 PM
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Why do you try to switch the subject? We are not talking about women here. We are talking about what women recognise about men and I think it is very inappropriate that you try to shift the focus when the focus is actually on men. Please stay on topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:26 PM
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Explain
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:22 PM
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Raising their standards, hold each other accountable, viewing others as equal, being more comfortable to compliment someone, cheering them on, feeling less insecure, and so on. There is so much that men could achieve as a collected and that we could then incorporate into our species as just equality as humans. We are constantly at war. Either a r*ce war, gender war, class war, religious war ... it is a constant and consistent thing which is so unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:21 PM
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What biology?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:14 PM
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Thats where the hierarchy and competition thinking comes in. Its not just sexuality. Men are also much more submissive towards someone they view as a superior. Even without involving hierarchy. We see that for instance in the military. They feel more comfortable in their assigned roles. And if they feel like they are on the same level as other men they view them as competitors because they always want to be on top.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:10 PM
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I think these island experiments severely undermine our current society. Just because someone is better at certain things doesn't mean they are higher in a hierarchy. Everyone has their own strengths and weaknesses and we should act accordingly without feeling superior to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:06 PM
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Hierarchy is unnecessary. We are all humans. And I'm not even touching the incest debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 02:57 PM
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On average. Men dont really like men. They have a very low opinion about each other and assume they are only out for themselves. Fathers teach their daughters that they need to be careful and afraid of men. If you watch interviews of men about other men they are in general very negative about them unless its a famous man. Men are very stuck in the hierarchy thinking which makes them want to be better than other and they are very rarely satisfied with being equals to others. Thats why they rarely…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 02:27 PM
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Yep. I could get my tin foil hat out and say, that we are only in this situation because certain things are trying to force us into this race to the bottom to keep us distracted. Thats why I rather try to advocate for the positive instead of compare the negatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:46 PM
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Thats why its so important to make sure we are all on the same terms and conditions when it comes to relationships so it doesn't feel transactional for anyone. Otherwise we are all just adapting to something as the "norm" and expect loveless transactional relationships when nobody actually wants that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 12:11 PM
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I think this is just a lack of understanding and an issue with communication. We kind of lost the term reciprocal along the way of capitalism. And it got turned into transactional. But thats the minority of relationships. Everyone wants to be loved and cherrished equally and they will want to love and cherrish.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:43 AM
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Most relationships are reciprocal. Not transactional. If you approach relationships with a transactional mindset you will only encounter transactional relationships. Its self fulfilling prophecy. The majority of people are not cheating. Cheating happens but it shouldn't be viewed as something inevitable when it isn't the majority of people doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:36 AM
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I can still hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:30 AM
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Women can be extremely nasty to men online. I think the nasty online is equal. The only difference is that women rarely back it up offline. Although even that is depending on the situation they are in. Ive seen women ridicule men that shoot their shot in a very demeaning way towards the guy even if he was polite. But because of the physical threat it is much less prevalent offline. I think in general we all need to call out the disrespectful behaviour and the "who is worse to who" kind of stuff …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 08:53 AM
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Personally - yes. I wanted someone who makes my life better. My husband is incredible at faking confidence. He is well integrated in his community, is always sought out by others to partake in things, is very social, very laid back and fun to be around. At least that is what he appears on the outside. He is much better at upholding that image than I am. I am not social. My social battery runs out incredibly quickly. I am fatigued a lot. I overthink everything. He tends to be my social shield. My…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:14 AM
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Dont get me wrong. I was very hateful in-between. And I still fall back into that mindset sometimes. Its hard not to. But I am getting closer to 40 now and I am trying to learn everything for a while now. From politics to how people interact with the world, etc. The more I learn the more I calm down. I had a phase at the beginning of this year where I was incredibly mad at the state of the world. Then I started to suck up every information I could get. And I learned a lot. I am still disappointe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:09 PM
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What do mosquitoes have to do with anything? Eyeball reaction depends on the intensity. There is a difference between a glance and a stare. This is why we have different words for them to differentiate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:02 PM
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The dressing debate is constantly moving the goal post and should be disregarded as nonsense. If you are fully dressed your ankles or wrists could be considered sexual. That was actually a thing. Personally I love some pretty hands and I will fantasise about pretty hands on my body if I see pretty hands. Does that mean I expect everyone to wear gloves? No. Hold yourself accountable for your own desires. Others dont consent to be part of your fantasy unless they explicitly tell you so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:45 PM
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I think its because they were (and to a certain degree still are) more comfortable with the status quo than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:06 PM
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Horny tingles makes brain go brrrrrr
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:21 PM
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Two completely different scenarios have two completely different outcomes. Reminds me when men were debating if they could fight and win against a gorilla or a tiger. A lot of men said yes. Change that to 10 gorillas or tigers. The majority is probably no. The thought experiment is about odds. If you change the odds the results will change. Is that really a suprise?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:35 AM
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I got 🍇 multiple times in my life. Also a loooot of sexual violence. Started when I was around 7. I still believe that people on average are good. And I like people. And I love my husband. I just got very careful and cautious around everyone. Bad experiences shouldn't completely shut you of from interacting with everyone else. The world is cold enough already.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:28 AM
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It depends from what perspective you view selfishness. Selfish is a moral judgement and we have the philosophy of moral dilemmas for a reason. If it was easy we wouldn't even have the dilemmas.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:15 AM
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I think men are a bit behind when it comes to the rejection of "normalised" paths. I had this conversation with my mom. When she started to have children there wasn't even a question if she wanted them. That was just the normal thing to do. Nobody around her even ask her if she wanted them. It was just the expected thing. When I became became a teenager and I started to reject the idea of having children that was really shocking to her. She couldn't understand how I was rejecting something so no…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:46 AM
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Thank you. I appreciate that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:28 AM
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I really hate the use of derogatory words in threads. Is it really that hard to make a normal conversation post without using insults to people outside your preferences? This kind of language turns every discussion instantly into hostility. It is very disappointing that people aren't capable to step out of their own hatred to have neutral debates.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:21 AM
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Take some accountability. Would you like if someone took away from your suffering by saying "but I have to deal with x and y too!". Not productive to anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:28 PM
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I think it is very inappropriate of you to distract from the topic at hand which is based on the issues men face during dating. Why do you have to make this about you and your issues? I get that you are facing similar stuggles but I dont think it is helpful in the context of this discussion to derail like this. This whataboutism helps no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:04 PM
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I do see that. I feel sorry for men that never actually did anything. There is an underlying fear that can't just be denied. It is the potential of a threat. Sadly dangerous men really fuck this up for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:10 PM
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I know. Its a sad world we are living in. Thats why I said "should".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:35 PM
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Being nice should be the baseline for everyone. Not just for dating. Being attracted to your partner should be the baseline to actually being with said partner. The entitled argument happens when anyone expects someone else to become a partner to someone they are not attracted to and view that as a moral failure of that person or even society. Men say women are entitled for not being attracted to them. Women say men are entitled for expecting the women to be attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:13 PM
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This thought experiment would depend on a lot of things. For instance are the women that the "switched women" are aware they are being approached by women in male bodies? Is this actually just women switching to male bodies? Is it switching our hormones and history? If it was just me staying me but I would grow a penis and nobody knew I was a woman before it would probably result in similar outcomes to the ones men currently experiencing. Dating and approaching dont happen in a vacuum. Women on …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:48 PM
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Let's see if anyone can actually stay on topic 🍿
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:32 AM
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I'm questioning the underlying assumption of your own post. Because it basically declares that with not a single indication everyone that is even remotely nice to someone should just assume they are sending them "signals" that indicate interest. Thats how we end up with a cold, unfriendly and hostile world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:46 AM
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Are men supposed to assume that women are into them just for being friendly?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:25 AM
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How would women know that the guy is attracted to her if he is just friendly?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:18 AM
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Im so confused here. Does that mean women should just assume that all men are always trying to get with them, even if they are just friendly?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:06 AM
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The issue is that men undermine the difficulties women have by trying to only portrait themselves as victims. At that point it becomes a victim Olympics. You could turn the framing around for men to. Not being able to be selected prevents them from having a lot of trauma. Almost as if women are drafted into the war. Sure they could come out as heroes, but the majority of them will come home with ptsd, trauma and other issues. While there are men that don't get to go to war because they are not f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:36 AM
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Thats why people in the comments suggested men sign up for a paper abortion data base. So even if something was to happen to them they would be save from repercussions. Although that then disatvantages raped and lied to women again. Like guys could sign up for it and then just rape women and say they didn't consent to children. Which is already a big issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 09:20 PM
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My conundrum is that biology doesn't work that way and sometimes women dont notice they are pregnant until it is too late to abort.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 07:48 PM
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If everything sucks then we need to come up with something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:24 PM
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Obviously that is a topic of discussion that has to be had but it is a different topic from men feeling exploited in dating and neglected on apps. I feel like every issue need to be adressed in a seperate way to actually achive a complete full picture. Telling men the patriarchy is harming them is all well and nice but it doesnt solve the issue of capitalism extracting resources from them and also the economy not supporting them. We are dealing with so many fires on every end that we dont even k…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:23 PM
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I just want everyone to be as happy as possible. So tired of the hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:15 PM
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There is a subreddit for it tbf. Its is an fascinating read if you want to dive into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:06 PM
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First one is just a random website? Im so confused by that website. Second one is a link to twitter. Which I wont open because elon musk already has enough traffic. Yeah, I know, the research shows that women initiate DV more, but men's is more severe. Thus, more women die from it than men. This is what I mean. We have statistics that show women commit DV because they shove their partner out of the way after the partner blocked them from exiting their home. Thats what I mean is the issue when it…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 01:10 PM
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He is. And I am grateful for him every day. I hope you can find the love you are craving.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 12:37 PM
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This is the argument about nature vs nurture and I think its a bit naive trying to reduce it to just one or the other. Does societal approval play a role in mate selection? Absolutely. But pretending its the only role means you assume someone can choose to not be gay for instance because society tells them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 12:36 PM
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Do you have a direct source? I dont want to discreit Wikipedia or anything but a lot of DV dont view the DV cases in context of previously sexual or verbal abuse and just focus on "who hit someone" which tends to be a narrow view of domestic violence. Which is why a lot of scientists criticise DV studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 12:31 PM
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Do you think social engineering overrides evolution?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 12:25 PM
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So whats the debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 12:18 PM
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So its evo psych vs. Current trends. You still haven't explained the third option.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 12:14 PM
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My husband is a good guy. He stays with me despite all of my issues. He makes me want to be better for him. I don't want to fall back into my toxic habits because I love him more than anything. He deserves to he happy and I will give everything to make him happy. I knew what i didn't want in my life watching my mom. That doesnt mean I figured out easily what I did want. Watching someone else throw themselve into the fire for you can help with the ego death. We are all so attached to our own iden…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 12:12 PM
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Idk. I think different people react differently to their own upbringing. I was a toxic pos when i started out having relationships. In the relationship before my husband I cheated and then ended the relationship. That was when I said I was done. I hated myself for how I was. I was single and celibate for like 4 or 5 years after that. There are so many parameters that influence how we deal with ourselves and our relationships with others that I dont think we can just boild it down to upbringing. …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 11:45 AM
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I don't have a son and my brother and I aren't close or even in contact. Surprisingly empathy isn't just based on personal connections
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 07:11 AM
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My mom is is in her third marriage. My maker is dead. She had my brother with her first husband and me with her second husband. All before she was 25. She is married to her third husband for like 20 years now. Terrible marriage. She basically mothers him. If she wouldn't cook he just wouldn't eat. I met my husband at 29. We are together 8 years. We got married after being together for 5 years. He is nothing like my maker or my mom's current husband. I made very clear to my husband that I dont wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:43 AM
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Aragorn from lord of the rings.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:23 AM
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Do you have a different source? This one isn't available to actually read.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:21 AM
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We are different but equal. None of us is better than the other but we are all equal. No man is the same as another man either, that doesn't mean they aren't equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:05 AM
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This. Which is actually why I found this topic of DEI and governement intervention in dating very fascinating. After I asked my question I actually was thinking about what structures could be put in place to make it easier to connect and foster relationships. I am a bit sad people didn't really want to engage with this topic and instead just got defensive about it. It would actually be interesting to think about certain ways to make dating better like non-profit government run dating apps that a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:24 PM
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What is the debate here? What is the third viewpoint? You could've condensed all of that instead of giving a lecture. Because your point is completely lost in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:17 PM
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I get that its a scary thought but this is exactly why these conversations could be very interesting. Why do men feel they want to go back to a system when the patriarchy gave them rights over women? Because the pushback against the current dating system is a sign of frustration for men. And while we could just reject the push entirely I feel like engaging with it and having conversation about how to improve it for everyone could be so much better. Instead we just tend to completely deny men's v…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:21 PM
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I assume you mean the version where women couldn't decide themselves about their partners or where they had very limited options they had to choose from for economic survival. I dont think we want to go back to that. At least I assume the majority of women would be against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:06 PM
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That sounds also like a great option. I had that conversation further down with someone. That would work too to make an informed decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:40 AM
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Yes. That is usually a part of having a conversation. Or at least how I like to have conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:39 AM
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I didn't give a response. I asked questions based on the thread that is pointing out the inequality in dating and compares it to inequality in the economy. I am curious about potential ideas and solutions for this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:18 AM
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Then just sitting at home and death it is 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:09 AM
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Does that mean you want DEI programmes for dating? Or like government subsidised dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:46 AM
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Because capitalism profits of alienation and antagonising. Algorithms are designed for engagement. Engagement is designed to be addictive. Profit can be made. How to create a world where everyone doesn't hate each other? Prioritise community and unity above profit. Hard to do in a our current society where the elite profits of the hatred. I assume once we run out of food and start starving we might get to a revolution. Or we just sit at home and keep blaming each other until we die. I'm curious …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:48 AM
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If it was obvious we wouldn't have contraception, abortions, etc. Thats not how reality works and I think it is naive to assume we need to punish someone for a fun activity that two consenting people engage with, for the next 18 years. If that was the case we could just throw contraception out the window and go back to abstinence. I personally like fucking my husband without having to worry that everytime I do that it will result in a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:18 AM
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The first one is one of my favourites. Because the study itself cites: For example, suppose partner A shoves partner B and that partner B does not retaliate but instead storms out of the house; the violence may end as nonreciprocal violence with no injury. If Partner B retaliates by slapping or punching partner A, the violence then becomes reciprocal and injury becomes more likely with each escalating blow. This pattern suggests that retaliation may be a primary mechanism for the increased injur…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:01 AM
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Yes. And men dont have that option. But women do. Thats the inequality part. A woman can single-handedly decide that a man has to be responsible to pay for the next 18 years even though she can opt in or out of that beforehand (under certain conditions). Thats like drafting a man into a 18 years long war. And that shouldn't be a thing. Im also against student loans, the draft, credit card debt at 18 and medical debt. All of these are things desinged to trap people in a situation they dont want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:11 PM
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Again. I'm not talking about children. I'm talking about the choices women get and men dont get during pregnancy. Children come way after that and are a result of all this mess. Let's focus on the topic at hand which is pregnancy and the ability to opt out of a future you dont want to be involved in.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:52 PM
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I mean. Women usually have to sit through a lecture about it and then think about it. So men should also be forced to do that. Also the whole sucking out only happens after a certain time period. There are different types of abortions based on the time frame. If we stopped turning it into this wildly horrible situation maybe people wouldn't react so badly about it. People keep romanticising birth and pregnancy itself yet it can be one of the most horrific experiences of your life. It is all abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:06 PM
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Something must be in the air or water. Maybe it is already results of AI psychosis or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:05 PM
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Yeah I know. They are testing little plastic tube inserts and stuff like that. Which I like. I hope with more research into male contraceptives women will also get more alternatives. That would be cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:43 PM
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I understand that. But most black pillers start at red pill and once they realise it doesnt work they become black pilled and assume its purely because of theit looks. Why is it better to try to change the game Because it overwhelmingly doesnt work for men or red pill and black pill wouldn't be necessary. That is the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:29 PM
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Black pill is the proof its not working through. Because they start as red pillers and end at black pill. Yet nobody tries to change the system. They try to participate even harder in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:58 PM
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A conclusion isnt a strawman. Your assumption that a change of the system wont have a change on the sex life of men is a non sequitur. Lazy way to defend your own assumption. Have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:57 PM
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Idk. Have you seen the videos of how the isreali's go for a day trip to a tourist platform to look over to Gaza and hope they can watch some Palestinians getting shot? I think you are a bit too optimistic in your assumption dehumanising someone is just a psychological defect instead of a form of indoctrination.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:54 PM
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Im pointing out that your assumption is that holding onto a broken system is better than trying something else because you fear it will have the same result. That is the answer to your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:49 PM
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Then why are men holding onto this scam if it isn't working?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:47 PM
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Is the current system working for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:36 PM
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Women are also providing for society and it depends on it. And thats why everyone is getting paid to do their job. Then why are women supposed to motivate men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:34 PM
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This is exactly why these conversations are so important and why the conversation around the legalisation around paper abortions is so important. Because all of it creates informed consent. If you have a STD you are legally required to disclose that before you have sex with someone. Otherwise you can be charged by law. In the same way we should have the conversation about the consequences of sex and our opinion on abortions before. If a partner discloses they would choose a paper abortion you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:22 PM
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Who is expecting you to provide material and existential comfort?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:10 PM
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Yes. Thats fine. I even argue men should pay more for it as a compensation for the disruption a women undergoes. I stated somewhere in this thread that an egg donor gets a compensation and they have to go through a pretty invasive procedure too. So I would say if a man wants a paper abortion it has to be financially compensation towards the woman. Still cheaper than 18 years of child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:01 PM
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Yes and no. I'm not really talking about children here. Because the product of a pregnancy is a different topic than the pregnancy itself. Once you start to go into laws around children itself it becomes even more muddled with forcing someone to give up their rights to traffic children and so on. I'd rather not get into that topic and stay actually with the one we are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:51 PM
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I agree. Thats why I said society views feminine traits as negative but women are allowed to show them because they come at the cost of not being taken serious. Thats just what I wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:47 PM
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Thats why there needs to be consent by both people. The risk of pregnancy is always present but neither man or women are consenting to pregnancy. It is a consequence that is a possibility and for that there needs to be a compromise for both. If you as a woman dont want to pay child support you can get an abortion. A man doesn't have that option. So if you decide on your own to keep the child he has no options. Thats the unfair part. Would I prefer we had 100% save contraceptives for men and wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:42 PM
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What does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:38 PM
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replace women's traditional role in motivating men. You did. Did you not read your own post?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:32 PM
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Then men should call each other out and expect better so a father doesnt need to tell her daughter she needs to be careful around men. You should work on your self hatred and assume that men are good and honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:31 PM
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Thats just internalised misandry that you assume a man is willing and justified to use coercion to get sex. I know men are better than that. And its really sexist that you assume men are like that. Be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:21 PM
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Why is it women's responsible to motivate men to do something with their life?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:19 PM
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Thats why abortions should be readily available so there isn't a child to take care of. We aren't really talking about children here. We are talking about choices. The consent to sex is not a consent to being a parent. And that should go for either person. As I said - this is a very complicated topic with lots of nuances and I would prefer it would have an easy solution but thats not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:13 PM
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This is why I said "women are allowed to behave that way" 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:08 PM
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And we are pretending that is any better? Acting disingenuous to get laid is a form of violence. Why are we pretending this is acceptable to assume men are like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:07 PM
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Yeah. I also really wish there were already more options for male contraception. It is so annoying that men dont really have that option yet and they just have to trust and hope. While there is always a potential failure of contraceptives at least women can double up, which is good because women are carrying more of the bodily risk in case of a pregnancy but I do think a triple layer would be even better. And it would give men even more security. I guess the contraceptive part is more likely to …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:55 AM
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I do call myself a feminist but I dont agree with other feminists on everything. That being said. Sadly getting hate to change a system to make it more equal is a normal thing and a constant battle. I just want equality for everyone. Parents should be 50/50 in every custody situation (unless there is actually proof of abuse), parents should have equal parental leave (although I have to say I would give women a certain amount of extra time because of the recovery time from the birth. Since that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:51 AM
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That would be more fair. That would be informed consent at that point. Both would be aware of the consequences of sex at that point. If he goes for the paper abortion before sex she will know that if she gets pregnant she doesn't have any right to child support. Obviously with this abortions for women need to be an absolute "my body my choice" situation. Where a woman can absolutely 100% get an abortion if she wants too. No discussion about life and all that. Its all about autonomy then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:38 AM
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Egg donation is not just the cost of the material though. Egg donors go through medical and psychological treatment. The donation process begins with an application and initial screening, followed by medical and genetic testing if eligible. Donors then receive hormonal medications to stimulate their ovaries, producing multiple eggs in one cycle instead of the single egg typically released. These medications, often daily injections, are taken for approximately 10 to 14 days. Throughout this stimu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:44 AM
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You can sell plasma though. For every plasma donation you get a compensation of like 25€ and you can do that up to 2x a week. You can also sell eggs. That ranges between 8k-20k. I assume a paper abortion would be worth at least an egg.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:33 AM
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In general I am of the opinion that nobody should be a parent that doesnt want to be a parent. I have seen too many people that had to become parents and they weren't motivated to be one. And punishing someone to pay for something you didn't ever wanted seems also cruel to me. However. My main issue with paper abortions is the timing part. Because paper abortions have a very tiny window where they can actually happen and abortions themselves already have a small window. If we say for instance ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:25 AM
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Did you ever had an abortion? Edit: My question is based on this statement: Pills are not expensive. Nor the "abortion pills" and such abortion in the early days is not hard on the body either. Dunno why I am getting downvoted for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:08 AM
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The epstein child rape cases regularly get called by media "sex scandals with young women". I could also go into misogynistic behaviour displayed in shows, movies and tv shows which is played off as normal or funny, if you insist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:10 AM
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Androcide mostly happens during war, where men specifically are killed for being men so they dont become fighters. Or in like a religious way where only the firstborn male is killed. Other than that men are very rarely targeted for being men. Although male POC tend to be a specific target, when it comes to the legal system, which comes with a certain prejudice of both sexism and racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:46 AM
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Femicide (or feminicide, as it is referred to in some contexts) is defined as an intentional killing with a gender-related motivation. It is different from homicide, where the motivation may not be gender-related. Femicide is driven by discrimination against women and girls, unequal power relations, gender stereotypes or harmful social norms. It is the most extreme and brutal manifestation of violence against women and girls which occurs on a continuum of multiple and related forms of violence, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:34 AM
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But what is this father supposed to do? Go around and tell every man to behave around his daughter? And just trust that they do? It's more practical and reasonable to inform the girl of the reality of the world. I just don't get why this is cited so often when it's obviously fundamentally flawed. This is the issue though. Men are just accepting that this distructive behaviour is a part of being a man instead of constantly and consistently calling it out. Then when women internalise the message t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:27 AM
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There is a difference for being killed in a situation you are in because you are a man vs. Being killed for being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:58 AM
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I think my main issue with misandry is that it only gets called out when it is women committing it. Men themselves rarely call out internalised misandry from other men. Instead it gets hand waved via "thats just how men are". For instance when a father, brother etc tells a girl she needs to be careful around men because they know how men think. Male violence isn't called out by other men instead it is accepted as "boys will be boys". There is a lot of expectations that men are a certain negative…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:54 AM
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every 10 minutes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:34 AM
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I have cried multiple times in my last job. So have my colleagues and my friends. And I am german.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:22 AM
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Settling down is not the same as settling for someone. Nobody wants to be the "eh, good enough I guess" option in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:11 AM
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This is multiple topics thrown together which makes it hard to actually discuss it properly. Because you are talking about criticism of women, then you are talking about how men perceive communicating with women, then you talk about authority and perceived expertise, then about how men handle communication with each other. This is a lot of talking points. A lot of it comes down to perception which is incredibly bias. For instance everyone assumes women talk much more than men, but that isn't act…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 11:18 PM
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Nobody says you need a Lambo. But the truth is a car you actually want and value, you will treat better and be willing to save for instead of just taking any car because it gets you from a to b. Because the random car you buy from the dodgy store will be much more of a hassle in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:47 PM
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Sure. The same way you would drive a kia. "At least it gets me from A to B"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:07 PM
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Settling down means you are giving up on your single life. That is not the same as settling for someone. Settling for someone means you just take someone to settle down with just so you are settled down. There is a reason why these have different meanings and feelings behind them. This is why so many men around here are terrified of being "settled for" just so a woman can have children and a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 05:13 PM
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Great comment. Good job. Try actually replying next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:34 PM
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Its not offensive or triggering. I just wouldn't call it settling. Making a compromise is okay. But settling means "eh, good enough. You'll do". When that is just not necessary. That is like consent. "Eh, maybe" isnt a enthusiastic "yes". Nobody should settle for anything less than a enthusiastic yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:17 PM
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Again. You dont have to settle if you dont want to. If I want pizza I dont settle for burgers. I will go and get pizza. And its not just women that are opposed to settling. We have constantly threads in here by men that they dont want to be settled for. This is not a one gender issue. Nobody wants to settle for a partner if they dont have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:51 PM
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You drive a kia because you need a car to get to places. That is not the same as a partner that you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:35 PM
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right in this thread. apparently it is societies moral failure. Now you have seen it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:23 PM
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Who is pretending? I am explaining how Society see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:01 PM
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You cannot explain the acceptance of tomboys, the mockery of feminine men, and the praise for women entering male spaces while pretending society simply "hates women." The reality is way more nuanced than that. I agree that there is nuance. But... watch me :) Your definition for a "feminine" man is: he is emotional, weak, soft, dramatic, Which is assumed to be feminine traits. Women are "allowed" to portrait these traits. Because thats what society expects women to be. Society even encourages th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 11:23 AM
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You made an example for men. So I was curious what example you would put equal for "men commit more crimes" but for women 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:59 AM
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Like what trend?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:45 AM
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Something to get you started: The hormonal framing is the weakest piece. "Women have more of the hormones that cause self-deception" is not really an argument — it's a placeholder. The more defensible version is: women's social cognition is, on average, more sensitive to in-group/peer signals than men's, and this sensitivity has real neuroendocrine substrate (oxytocin's role in in-group bonding, estradiol's modulation of social reward, well-replicated sex differences in mentalizing tasks like th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:48 AM
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Can we at some point retire the 16 years old dating app data blog? It is old enough to drink beer in germany now 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:22 AM
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I gotta need a source for the whole: all people are capable of self-deception and delusion, the hormones that women have more of cause them to be moreso For the rest of your text wall I kind of a agree on some points but disagree on others. While social consensus is important for social animals like humans and capitalism has done everything they could to market certain "types" of people and beauty standards to make money, the majority of people are just average. I think the issue with the whole …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:06 AM
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This post wont reach anyone. It will be forgotten tomorrow. You need to be an actual activist instead of just a keyboard warrior. This post has no information how men can further engage with it. Its a debate post. You dont provide links or resources for men to join you. You need to build a community. Do that and then come back to inform people about your group so others can join your movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:15 AM
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Then you need to advocate for a separate tax system for men if that is your main concern. Start a organisation, political party, movement etc that is focusing on taxes from men for men. You have to actually advocate for these things if you want them to happen. Go and do something! Start groups for that. Get other men involved. Change the system to what you want it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:09 AM
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You keep going on about women. Makes me think you dont actually care about men. Focus on men! What do they actually need. What programmes, what help, how can you actually support men? Stop making this about just women. Because it sounds like you just want to punish women but dont really care about men. If you want public transport for men, advocate for public transport for men. How do you help mens health? What actions and policies are there actually to be started for men? Just ignore women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:00 AM
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Stop mentioning women. You are way to centered around them. Focus on men and their needs. Instead of saying "women do this and that" just focus on what men need. "Men need community and support", "tax funding needs to go to help mens mental and physical health". Join male groups like shoulder to shoulder. Talk about your own goals and aspirations. You want to decenter women then stop being so focused on them. Advocate for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 05:46 AM
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I am all for men decentering women. You go! You compete with the women. Men should try to compete in jobs like health care and teaching so they can actually care about the elderly and children and teach them. Start advocating for that so you can start forming the next generation. Start clubs for men to enjoy themselves. Start campaigning for more male rights and equality in childcare and child support. Saw a reel the other day of a mens group in the UK that meets up, is having walks and talks an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 05:34 AM
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He is projecting. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:38 AM
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I'd bet my entire vagina that there's more closeted gay men than lesbian/bi women. Same. Everytime there is a conservative event somewhere grindr is breaking down. Despite most of these guys being married of pretending to be hetero.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:35 AM
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Yeah. My husband is my best option. I had relationships. I fucked people. I dont come from a happy go lucky family so it took me a while to figure out what I actually want in a relationship. I didn't want a relationship when I met my husband. But God damn he is everything I want in a partner. So we got together. I got to know him even more. Then I proposed to him. He is my ultimate option and I am very lucky I caught him. Now everyone else is just grey and dull to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:29 AM
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This is such a toxic mindset. I married my husband in a courthouse and we are together for 8 years. We are both pretty poor so there is no reason to fleece anyone. If you assume women only get married to their husbands for some malicious reason you should seek some help.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:20 AM
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Where has it been debunked?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:51 AM
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Is this another "there are no straight women" post? This is like shark week on ppd 🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:04 AM
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Oh my God yes. I tried to get away from a guy before by saying "I have a girlfriend". He got even closer and started asking me if I ever was with a men, he could change my mind, he wouldn't be against being with me and my girlfriend, I just needed a real men, etc. Exhausting...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:51 AM
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I counted at least 3 at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:49 AM
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Most women try almost everything once. This is the whole issue guys on here have with "she gave her previous partner anal but wont do it with me". It doesnt matter if she didn't liked it, they still expect her to do it again. Women get judged for trying something or not trying something. They can't win.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:17 AM
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Depends on a lot of factors. Was it a drunken ONS or a prolonged affair? How long are we together? Did he find out or did I tell him? There are so many variables that play into this question. Sometimes I read in the marriage subreddit stuff like "my wife had a 9 month affair. We havent been sexually active for 2 years. I am the bread winner and she is in school. She doesnt even hug me" and all I am thinking is "sir, you are a doormat and your wife doesn’t respect you". Then I don't respect him e…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:09 AM
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Guys being out here writing threads on how women can't judge something if they haven't tried it. Then judge women for trying stuff to see if they like it 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:50 AM
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They are in an active war.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:07 PM
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I think a lot of people dont understand the difference between transactional and reciprocal. If you dont know what reciprocal is then you just assume everything has to be transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:06 PM
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What do you mean "version of it"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:58 PM
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Especially with the obsession of... let's say "local" babies, the visa method is probably not the preferred one for the majority of "people". We will see which one they try next.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:40 PM
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No county has yet introduced universal income with assisted living in a childcare community for single mothers either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:32 PM
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There are a lot of species that stop breeding if the environment is not favourable and they have to focus on their own survival instead. That is actually a very natural thing to do. We humans just have the capacity to have a certain foresight when it comes to environmental impacts. We are able to recognise trends and patterns. And as long as certain patterns are consistent it makes sense not to reproduce. Humans aren't just thinking about their own survival but also about the survival of their o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:18 PM
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That is assuming that the men that talk about lack of attention from women actually care about the validation they get from women. If the validation doesnt translate to sex the men that are complaining about it dont care about it. We sadly see that all the time on here where they are like "why cant women acknowledge men's struggles?!" And if women do that they say they dont care about that if it doesnt lead to sex. At that point sex is just used as a tool. And while women do similar things the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:49 PM
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Its not female validation. Its male validation. Men are scared to death to appear "not manly" in front of other men. Lack of easy access to women is seen as not manly. So yeah. It is about ego but not based on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:21 PM
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What does "close with" mean? Can you be more specific with your definition? Also what exactly you define as approaching?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:14 PM
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This is fascinating. Can you define what you think cold approaches are?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:08 PM
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Lol. Funny
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:03 PM
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We are getting suuuper specific at this point already and its really annoying. The amount of times RP guys in here argue what "the real red pill" and "OG red pill" and "modern red pill" is, is so exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 01:01 PM
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Tbf. I have actually seen female content creators use that term. Almost like a sarcastic way to adress their female audience in a collective way like "manosphere". It makes me cringe when they do it but I get that they try to make it feel like a counter movement to the manosphere and claim it as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:59 PM
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They hate when we do that. Shout out to # not all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:56 PM
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Yes. Thats what happens when your whole system is build on hierarchy. We all have to participate in it. If we want to or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:41 PM
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True. Because they have to for survival. But we know that women prefer cooperative systems instead of hierarchies. Men prefer hierarchies and because our whole system is build around male preferences we all have to participate in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:39 PM
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There isn't as much mobility as we would assume. But that was how the "American dream" was sold. Everyone can become rich if they want to and work hard enough. Nowadays its much less prevalent. The equality of opportunity is mostly an illusion. There are outliers that tend to be used as examples to keep the system going.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:28 AM
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If you are living inside a system that requires you to participate in the system to survive you will do what is necessary to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:09 AM
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Correct. Just because someone is on top of the hierarchy at some point doesnt mean they cant be replaced. Just because you grow up poor doesnt mean you cant gain money and power later to climb the hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:08 AM
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Luckily its slowly changing. Dismantling a system takes forever. Especially when its upheld for this long. And the resistance against change is strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:53 AM
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Do you think you only grow up in a certain system if you learn about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:52 AM
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That system is still active and has been active forever. Someone has to be on the top and then you have a hierarchy of people below and below that and below that and so on. No equality is possible as long as we buy into a system of hierarchy. Men just keep it alive in the hope they will get on top of the hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:40 AM
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I already did. Patriarchy isn't just a system of dominance of men over women but also over men. Its is system build on the hierarchy of dominance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:34 AM
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I blame the social hierarchy system that is build and kept up by men on patriarchy 🤷 in a system that keeps the hierarchy as the dominant social form there will always be patriarchal bargaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:26 AM
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Always funny when everyday some men discover patriarchy = bad for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:09 AM
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Big mistake 🫠
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:25 AM
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You are aware you are only allowed to post on PPD once a day?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:13 AM
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Society doesnt care about dating. It cares about making children because we are living in a system that is designed to keep growing. Id argue not having children is actually a form of resistance in a system that transfers wealth from the bottom to the top and forced people to keep producing more and more. We are living in a finite world. We can't just keep growing indefinitely. So as long as society as a whole doesnt invest the majority of its wealth into children there should be a resistance ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:39 AM
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Great argument. You wanna explain it then? You are more than welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 08:38 PM
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A theory is only valid as long as it isn't disproved. We have a lot of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:58 PM
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Its like arguing with someone who believes in god. How would you proof that god doesnt exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:38 PM
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Science also has a lot of "theories". Theories are true until proven otherwise. Thats why most of our science isn't 100% proof. The theory of gravity only applies like it is for instance on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:37 PM
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I am purple pill though. Blue pill is just the opposite of TRP narrative. Thats just what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:34 PM
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Okay. Lets see. How about. women are the oldest children in the house RP claims women arent responsible and arent in control of their emotions. Yet women are predominantly the ones that take on childcare and household chores. They dont just abandon their own children and refuse to pay child support. women are only attracted to the top 10% of men Yet 60-70% of people are in relationships. You got some more? You are welcome to provide some of the doctrine to be debated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:10 PM
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Because you argued I use a strawman when I just use your own words as the argument. How does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:32 PM
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Blue pill is just the name RP guys use for people that dont agree with them. So you would need to be a tiny bit more specific. Tell me a typical RP claim and we could examine it from a BP perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:31 PM
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You wanna just argue semantics?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:25 PM
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You want any example or you wanna know something specific?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:23 PM
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You can ask Red Pillers something, and for the most part you get the same answers. Is this your post?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:10 PM
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RP claims their assumptions based on studies while ignoring correlation and causation. And sometimes they also just make stuff up. Its just cult thinking. The indoctrination into RP is literally "we know the truth and everyone that questions it is an outsider that is just wrong". That is what indoctrination is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:07 PM
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What strawman? I explained why RP is attractive to people. Its the same concept. "Coherent worldview" is the same as explaining everything with the solution that a mighty sky daddy made the universe. Simple answers for complex situations give people comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:04 PM
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The same way religion/cults have answers to everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:58 PM
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Only pointing out its not a study. Its an opinion piece. Which is fine. And a funny read.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 11:08 AM
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They didn't provide numbers for women. They basically just said men prefere at least 25 partners while women like around 6. They compare different mating strategies and what effect dating apps and economic freedom of women have on short term vs long term dating. The journal entry is also predominantly about fertility decline and not really about how much sex who has.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:43 AM
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Its more of a journal entry than an actual study. They themselves call it a manuscript. Its basically just some numbers and potential solutions to the fertility decline. I like that they propose to do some experiments like shared single mothers housing to see if it would benefit the fertility decline. They dont really offer anything for the useless men to do though. Although if we go from all the panic men on here always throw about the decline in fertility you would assume they would be more th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:33 AM
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This was a fascinating read. Promiscuous mating has always been a lopsided affair for men; low-value men could never rely on promiscuity as their mating strategy A future with more single parents would fit this trend; it could be viewed as a return to our early hominin starting point, framing the past few million years as an era of pair-bonding—a temporary evolutionary compromise. Research on incels shows that them having low mate value does not motivate a stronger long-term orientation—which wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:23 AM
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Can you link the source of that graphic? It looks so odd to me how they did that. I wanna see the rest of this
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 08:59 AM
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What is this graphic even supposed to represent? Where does it come from? What is 99th? Why is it so weirdly split up?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 08:51 AM
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Sounds like men settle for women that give them "meh" sex and then get offended she settled too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:13 AM
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You dont go into any job interview. You go into job interviews for jobs you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:03 AM
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How would we ever know who checks out of a relationship more?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:20 PM
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Oh? Can we use that the next time some guys on here try to claim stuff is predominantly done by women? Awesome!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 05:44 PM
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Perfect example.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:45 PM
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Women have been telling men for decades what they want. Some Men decided to listen to other men instead of women. Now some men just want to punish women for what they want. Nothing would change. It would be the same as it is now. Some Men don't want to change. The ones that are actually able to change and adapt to new demands are in relationships. The rest will be sorted out by natural selection. Thats how it's supposed to be. Although some men try to force women to settle for them by utilising …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:14 PM
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Women that didn't want to marry and rather live alone was burned as witches. There was always an agenda to force women to couple up. Men could just do whatever they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 10:29 AM
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Jealousy is fine. Controlling isnt. Am I afraid my husband will get attention from someone else? Sure. I am attracted to him so it is only natural to think others are too. That doesnt mean I will try to trap him or forbid him to do things (within reason. We both have boundaries that we set early in the relationship like cheating and stuff). I trust him to respect my boundaries while I also accept my jealousy is for me to manage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 07:40 AM
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Personally I think that's fine. Getting compliments and attention outside of the relationship feels good. I like a bit of jealousy. I like making my husband feel desirable in general and not just specifically to me. When he shows me what he is going to wear for a night's out with the boy I flirt with him aggressively but I will also always throw in some jealousy like "make sure your wedding ring is visible. Can't have some random woman try to pick you up!". When he jokes with and laughs with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:36 AM
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Its the threat that is the issue. I think men are more likely to threat in the hopes to control their partner. Women just build resentment and then leave. They voice their issues and if nothing happens they just leave without threatening the divorce first. I think men expect a threat to make them think more serious about an issue while women are more likely to view it as controlling. Thats why men keep saying "the divorce came out of nowhere" and women are more likely to say "he is being control…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:23 AM
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I just blame everyone. But the good thing: everything is ✨️voluntary ✨️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 06:02 PM
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If by "punished" you mean they dont get access to women then yes. That could be considered a punishment. But its only a punishment if someone feels entitled to a certain treatment. Same with women avoiding honesty to get a certain treatment. As long as dishonesty is "rewarded" we wont reach a place where honesty is valued.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:08 PM
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My main privilege as a woman in general is that I am not taken serious. It is a privilege which comes with downsides. If I was a guy I would've been punched in the face multiple times in my life for things that I got away with as a woman. I am also more easily forgiven for shit I have done. People care more about me because they dont think I can care for myself. I am absolutely using my privilege when it comes to taking advantage of a system that doesn't take me serious. I have some narcissistic…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:53 PM
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Viewing sex as anything else but a mutually pleasurable fun activity will always be weird to me. I would never use sex as a tool to manipulate someone. That is such a toxic mindset and anyone that uses sex this way needs to seriously examine their relationship with their own sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 01:50 PM
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Chad has no issues. Chad isn't the one complaining about declining birthrates and "unfair mating strategies"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 01:35 PM
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Women didn't want them 100 years ago. They were forced to be with men they didn't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 01:32 PM
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Sure there are things we have to tolerate but if it is just misery and you dread doing it you need a way to make it more bareable. I watch videos while brushing my teeth to distract myself from it. Jestering to me is the same as "chasing". If you invest and do something you dont enjoy at all it wont be worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 08:30 AM
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You shouldn't "chase" anything. You put effort into what you want. A career you want will have you invest time, money and energy into achieving it. A hobby you want to pursue will have you invest time, money and energy. Anything you want will require you to invest into it. That doesn't mean you should do something you dont enjoy at all. If you hate doing something the result will very rarely be worth the investment. You need to be able to enjoy the path and not just focus on the goal or it will …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 08:18 AM
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Sixty-eight per cent of these cases were murders committed by the child's father, compared with 32 per cent by the child's mother. Among offenders, while fathers were about equally likely to kill an infant, they were more likely to be the alleged murderer of children older than a year, especially when the children were adults (fathers were the offenders in 78.3 percent of those cases).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 01:25 PM
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Are you talking about abortions or actual murder?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:41 AM
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My type isnt a static thing. My type is someone I am attracted to for some reason or another. That changed throughout my life. It depended who I had a crush on. Although my type for women was always a bit stricter than my type for men. My women type is based on my first girl crush I had when I was like 7. My first boy crush also happend around that time but it changed a lot while I am aging. When I was a teenager I was into boy band kind of guys. Then I had crushes on "bad boys" from shows. One …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:00 PM
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TRP doesnt work because it bases their assumptions that AWALT. RP men assume all women are terrible women. Therefore they will only choose terrible women to engage with. Which will proof their own bias. Then they will be in terrible relationships where they have to keep leveraging RP tactics to keep the terrible woman. Which leads to toxic relationships. RP is just self fullfilling prophecy of guys that choose to be miserable because of their own bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:57 AM
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You didn't provide a source for your claim. You just ask a random question. Maybe educate yourself before you make baseless claims
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 07:32 PM
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So no source? You just making up stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 07:28 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 07:25 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 05:32 PM
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Lots of reasons for higher body count. In general the body count happens on a bell curve. There will always be outliers on either end of the spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 01:58 PM
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There are soooo many factors that play into women not enjoying casual sex as much. I could probably write a dissertation about that. From biology and how estrogen and progesterone effects cortisol, over psychological conditions like higher neurotism to social effects like judgment and devaluation. In general as I said, the risk vs reward is just not worth it to engage in it. If you've never had a late period after a ONS you wont understand the absolute terror that you would feel about about the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 12:59 PM
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Men have sex with people they wouldn't even talk to if they didn't want to have sex with them. If women dont like the guy they could just use a sex toy. At least at that point the orgasm is guaranteed, no risk of pregnancy or violence. For men sex with a person would (almost) always top self pleasure. Their risk vs. Reward is much lower. Thats not the case for women. If men had a 50/50 chance the sex would lead to no orgasm, life threatening conditions and feeling used, they would also be much m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 08:51 AM
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It depends on your definition of attraction. If attraction means: I want to actively have sex with this person just based on looks and if they offered I would absolutely jump at that opportunity. That is probably a very small percentage already. And I assume women would rather stay single than just rely on that. If attraction means: this person is physical attractive and if I get to know them and they personality and vibes are nice I could see myself having sex with them and be in a relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 06:11 AM
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There are two of them who think women aren't hetero at all now? Or is it just one with a alt account?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 07:01 PM
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Hahaha. He didn't like the responses he got
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 06:53 PM
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Lying to get sex isnt the same as lying to end sex. Common sense proofs nothing when its just based on assumptions. There was no lie from me. You just dont like the statistics I provided.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:53 PM
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Source that women do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:31 PM
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