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Congrats, dude.
/r/seduction30/09/21 08:31 PM
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"Creepy" is a story dudes tell themselves to get off the hook for having to make approaches. You say that YOU find it "weird"--so notice two things. First, this is the illusion going on in YOUR head and has no relation to the outside world. Second, what does "weird" or "creepy" even mean? You've got this expectation in your head about how people are supposed to behave in public places, and you probably don't even know where you got that expectation from. What if that expectation is wrong? What i…
/r/seduction30/09/21 08:26 PM
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It's been 24 hours and I haven't gotten a response AND she hasn't even opened the text. This is (just) part of why texting sucks. If she never reads the text, there's literally nothing you can put in that text that will make a difference. There are a couple of possibilities here: She isn't able to read/respond to text messages right now for some reason, and you're a victim of bad timing. This is rare, at least for this length of time. Your text messages aren't getting through at all since that f…
/r/seduction30/09/21 08:18 PM
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Great post. I just left a comment in another thread about forgiving yourself. Completely true there and here.
/r/seduction14/05/18 01:31 PM
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Buncha chicken-shit virgins in this thread, apparently.
/r/seduction12/04/18 08:20 PM
0

Want to drive them wild and make them compete for you? “I’m trying to decide which one of you I like better.” If the vibe is right or you’re down to polarize: “I’m trying to guess which one of you would be more fun in bed.”
/r/seduction06/04/18 10:50 PM
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Who are you when you’re “yourself”?
/r/TheRedPill03/11/17 08:25 PM
2

Oneitis should be defined as a strong emotional reaction to a person, combined with the irrational feeling that this person is the only one on the planet that can satisfy you. Articulating it that way helps see the problem more clearly for what is: a lack of mastery over one's emotions. Recognizing that feeling when it comes over you, and investigating to find the source of those feelings, will usually help resolve it, because you're often find the right source has nothing to do with the girl yo…
/r/TheRedPill28/10/17 01:41 PM
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Two things jump out at me that you can fix right now. Number one: your focus too much on pussy and not enough on your mission. Get your grades up, get into a fraternity you like, and go study overseas. Stop fucking up the rest of your life just because your blue balls give you a sad face. Number two: you feed yourself so much horse shit about the way other peoples relationships work, that everyone around you is all smiles and Rose Gardens. The one thing you're telling yourself that's correct eve…
/r/seduction15/10/17 11:55 PM
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This whole report is aces. Thanks for the contribution.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/17 10:06 PM
1

What type is that? What type of guy do you think you are and what have you done to change that?
/r/seduction20/09/17 09:21 PM
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What do you think is your biggest obstacle holding you back?
/r/seduction20/09/17 09:18 PM
1

I'd figure out what I enjoy doing for myself, and I'd also try to figure out my mission in life. If you don't have any idea what those things are, then the answer is to try as many new things as you possibly can while you are in an environment that allows you to do so.
/r/seduction19/09/17 11:46 AM
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This needs to be disseminated much more widely. I'm sure most men (I'm one of them) don't have any idea about what happens behind closed doors at PP.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/17 10:31 PM
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Don't make them feel too comfortable. You want them just comfortable enough that you can interact with them successfully. If they're a little nervous, that's great, because it means they're likely attracted to you. Now you need to just seal the deal.
/r/seduction26/08/17 07:23 PM
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Stop thinking of, and describing yourself, as a virgin. The fact you haven't yet had sex is no more a part of your identity than the fact you've never been to Reykjavik. Unless you make it that way. If you, as a child, learned to walk and talk, you can, as an adult, learn to fuck. You are the descendant of thousands of generations of successful fuckers. You're literally evolved to do this. The more you overthink it, the more you'll get in your own way. Afraid you'll be bad your first time? Who c…
/r/seduction26/08/17 07:10 PM
0

Which California labor law are you referring to?
/r/TheRedPill10/08/17 03:33 AM
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Google isn't going to pay him shit because he doesn't have a basis to sue. They'll fight the case and get it thrown out.
/r/TheRedPill10/08/17 03:32 AM
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Exactly why do you think he has grounds for a lawsuit, and why do you think he might have a shot in hell at winning it? Google has the time, the money, and the lawyers to ground him out until he gives up. If his plan was to get fired on purpose just for the ability to sue, it's the dumbest plan I've ever heard of.
/r/TheRedPill09/08/17 11:58 PM
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I prefer to be called Ten Million Dollar Mouthpiece, thanks.
/r/TheRedPill30/07/17 03:15 AM
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This is BS. You felt sharper when you quit drugs, of course. Then you got depressed when you nailed some other chick because you realized you were giving up on the girl you'd been wanting for so long. Do you think successful men practice semen retention? No. Think of Genghis Khan, the ancestor of nearly all of Asia. Think of American presidents like Kennedy and Clinton. Think of athletes like Magic Johnson and Wilt Chamberlain. Think of entertainers like Mick Jagger and Johnny Carson. The fact i…
/r/TheRedPill18/07/17 09:18 PM
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Replace your toxic mindset with a more positive one. You're going to brighten someone's day by having a positive, uplifting interaction with her, and you don't care about the outcome beyond that. Rinse, repeat as needed.
/r/seduction13/07/17 02:45 AM
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This makes about as much sense as trying to learn to play basketball underwater. The environment is ill-suited for the activity. Get out and find women in real life.
/r/seduction23/06/17 11:57 AM
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I suspect you really do know what to say but fear blots it out before you say it. Pretty much ANY conversation you have with people puts you in the top 20% because most people are afraid to have even casual conversations with strangers. Ask a question. Make a statement. Give a command or issue a request. Anything will do, as long as you do it without fear.
/r/seduction20/06/17 11:46 PM
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How tall will you need to be in order to fix all of your problems? Who told you that you need a university degree in order to have permission to make money? You're spending your whole life focused on the excuses you have for not succeeding, instead of focusing on how to achieve success. That's the only thing holding you back. If you decided that you would succeed, no matter what obstacle, you would. Maybe you'll have to work twice as hard as someone else. Maybe you'll have to endure more setback…
/r/TheRedPill08/06/17 12:34 PM
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Have you ever tried it or are you just shitting your fears onto everyone else here?
/r/TheRedPill06/06/17 09:30 PM
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Why have you convinced yourself that you can't improve?
/r/TheRedPill06/06/17 09:19 PM
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I own a business. If this were true, I'd have a 23% advantage over my competition. Some people have trouble reading sarcasm.
/r/TheRedPill11/05/17 11:59 PM
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I know it's not true. But given OP's example, even if it were true, even 77% would be overpaying. Reading comprehension appears to be a problems amongst all the downvoters.
/r/TheRedPill11/05/17 11:58 PM
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What level of chicken do you want? That's who you should go for. Every encounter you have now is practice for the next one. Train at race pace.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/17 09:47 PM
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This is your competition in the job market. Now realize that she gets paid as much as 77% as you do, for doing that level of work.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/17 09:41 PM
1

If you're not like that, then what are you like? And what does that tell you about what you should put in your profile? And once you follow that path, does it work?
/r/seduction04/05/17 12:49 AM
1

What are you doing to improve yourself so that you don't have to resort to paying for it? The answer to that question should tell you whether not you should feel bad.
/r/seduction04/05/17 12:47 AM
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If you think people are constantly on their phones and star at their computers without a break ever, then you are missing opportunities that you just haven't allowed yourself to see. Someone must be getting laid, somehow, sometime. They must be meeting people somehow, sometime. Do you know anyone who is successful in meeting new people? What do they know that you don't? What are they doing that you haven't yet been willing to do? Answer these questions, and you will go a long way to fixing your …
/r/seduction04/05/17 12:44 AM
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Is there someone in your life, maybe you, who had a really bad experience getting into a relationship with a girl? Is there some unconscious believe you have about relationships that would deep down inside to turn you from actually wanting to get into one? The behavior you are describing definitely fits in with one of these patterns.
/r/seduction04/05/17 12:39 AM
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I don't think it has a name. However, I read a bunch of threads where people describe how certain "unattractive" well-known people are totally turning them on. There really is a lid for every pot.
/r/seduction03/05/17 10:17 PM
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In all seriousness, everything you see is the negative, if someone else's turn on. There are women out there who also have mental illnesses that want someone who understands what they've been through. There are women out there who want someone to take care of. There are women out there who find shy or reserved guys interesting and mysterious. There are women out there who will find your not-conventionally-attractive looks oddly compelling. (Don't believe me? There are entire Reddit threads about…
/r/seduction03/05/17 01:28 PM
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She already had another guy waiting in the wings, and was pressing for information to make a final decision between you and him. You passed this test with flying colors.
/r/TheRedPill02/05/17 05:40 PM
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You are very welcome. Please let us know how it goes.
/r/seduction02/05/17 03:49 PM
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Are you saying you don't know how because you've never done it before? Or are you saying that the fact you've never done it before means you just can't do it? Because I completely reject the latter. This is just like acquiring any new skill. You go out and try something and see what works. I'm sure in your life you've seen examples of people flirting and escalating sexual tension. They tease, they smirk, they touch each other in ways that gradually increase intimacy, and then sparks start to fly…
/r/seduction19/04/17 09:26 PM
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Probably the best antidote to this problem is to adopt the mindset that you're curious, which is a midpoint between disinterest and neediness. Having the neediness turned down all the way is a good start, because that's the challenge most guys face. So starting from your normal baseline, ask yourself question "I wonder what she's like?" Imagine yourself telling her with a smirk, "I haven't decided about you yet." Tease her like you would a bratty little sister, in order to find out what kind of …
/r/seduction19/04/17 09:23 PM
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First of all, great job on the self improvement. That's going to help you a lot when you break through whatever's going on now. You haven't given enough information to give specific advice, so tell us what you've done recently to meet women and escalate sexually. Where do you think your best chances are? What's stopping you from obtaining your goals?
/r/seduction15/04/17 03:52 PM
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Yes, there is a way. Just ask her out. Is a good idea? Depends on how much you care about your job.
/r/seduction11/04/17 09:43 PM
2

If you're escalating kino appropriately then you won't be risking rejection. The shorter answer is that a girl who let you touch her hair is probably going to gladly kiss you.
/r/seduction11/04/17 09:32 PM
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Not everyone possesses that. Not everyone fucks HB 8 strangers on the first night. Notice the correlation.
/r/TheRedPill02/04/17 08:09 PM
2

High school game is so much about social proof and social circle. Why do all these gay guys think you might be a prospect? Who are you hanging out with that might give off that impression? What kind of other vibes are you sending out that might give that impression?
/r/TheRedPill30/03/17 09:51 PM
2

The fact that she's complaining about you being "controlling" isn't a problem. The fact that you think it's a problem it's a problem, and the fact that she wants to go out to clubs without you is a problem, and she wants to go out and party with her friends without you is a problem. You're doing the right thing by setting boundaries, and sounds like she's not respecting that. She will either respect the boundaries that you set for her, or demonstrate herself to be unsuitable as a relationship pa…
/r/TheRedPill30/03/17 09:14 PM
0

Just go out and pick up chicks, and stop trying to make excuses for yourself to protect you from the feelings of failure.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/17 08:56 PM
2

Just stop comparing yourself to other people. You don't know what they went through to earn their success, and you don't know the other struggles they face in their life. The grass always looks greener, as they say, but remember the green grass takes a lot of fertilizer to get there.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/17 08:54 PM
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The contextual nature of status often gets overlooked. The big fish in a small pond gets all the minnows he wants. A big fish in a bigger pond gets better minnows.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/17 09:02 PM
2

The easiest way to de-sexualize an interaction is to use the word "Conversate". Phony fancy words are a red flag for a blue pill mentality because there a sign of compensating for a deep insecurity. Your use of it in the first paragraph of this post almost made me skip the whole damn thing, even though there was some decent information there.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/17 01:45 PM
1

What is the difference between what you're experiencing now and what you hope to experience? When you say "how do I fix this" it's not clear what your expectations are and that makes it impossible to give any advice on how to get there.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/17 05:21 PM
2

This should probably be on AskTRP. Why do you feel obligated to respond to text messages? A guy who has things going on doesn't have time to respond to text messages all day. Tell her you're busy, and use text only to arrange your next meet up.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/17 02:30 PM
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Sometimes they say yes and sex results, sometimes they say yes and no sex results, sometimes they say no and no sex results. But every time I didn't ask, no sex resulted.
/r/seduction07/03/17 02:25 PM
4

"The less water I drink, the thirstier I get."
/r/seduction07/03/17 02:22 PM
1

No. Skinny people never reproduce. It's been scientifically proven. Why are you looking for an excuse to fail before you even start?
/r/seduction07/03/17 02:16 PM
7

Have you experienced this in real life, or are you looking for an excuse to not even try to say this when you're talking to someone?
/r/seduction07/03/17 02:14 PM
1

What does "creepy" mean to you? And why do you think it's important to avoid it?
/r/seduction07/03/17 02:03 PM
1

Only a couple of times? You're not approaching enough. Get shot down 20 or 30 times in one night, and that will give you the approach volume you'll need to mail just one.
/r/seduction04/03/17 01:42 AM
1

I think you're deliberately picking women with boyfriends so that you have an excuse for why you're not nailing them. As other posters here have said, go find some single women.
/r/seduction04/03/17 01:15 AM
1

Are all of these interactions by text? Stop texting so much. Is this a girl you're sleeping with, or being an emotional tampon for? She clearly doesn't have any respect for you, so you need to radically change your dynamic. Try this self-improvement experiment. No texting or social media for the next 40 days. Tell people you're doing it for Lent, or whatever, but just remove yourself from it. Spend that time by doing things to improve yourself, see what happens.
/r/seduction28/02/17 10:54 PM
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You've been raped twice before, and now you're being victimized again. Don't fool yourself into thinking that's a coincidence. Figure out why predators think you are the prey and fix it before you get taken out for good.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/17 04:03 AM
2

I regret that I have but one upvote to give.
/r/seduction17/01/17 08:10 PM
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Your issue isn't at all about your relationship, or even about picking up girls. You solved both of those problems. The problem that you still have, based on what you said, is that you still have ongoing issues with confidence, very likely stemming from your speech impediment issues as a youth, and something in your head connects the ability to have sex with "random" women as a way to fill that in and heal that wound. Spend a little time and think about what you're really unhappy about. I think …
/r/seduction17/01/17 07:54 PM
1

Stop worrying about how others perceive you. Demanding respect from other people is not "being a dick".
/r/seduction16/01/17 10:26 PM
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These "friends" who joke about it are holding you back. Even though you may not realize it, that shit affects your mental space. Also, it looks like your viewing the end of college is some kind of deadline. That's creating a sense of scarcity that's gonna work against your ultimate goal here. Again, you might not realize it, but subconsciously it will absolutely have an effect. You sound like you've really got your shit together and are probably the kind of guy who should have no trouble attract…
/r/seduction13/01/17 01:23 PM
1

Approaching.
/r/seduction23/12/16 08:50 PM
1

What incentive do they have to be: Truthful, Self-aware, and Accurate? And on the other hand, what incentive do they have to tell themselves pretty little lies about how shallow they're not?
/r/TheRedPill18/12/16 08:57 PM
6

So now you know who your true friends are. Sounds like a win to me.
/r/TheRedPill18/12/16 05:37 PM
1

Congratulations on taking action, no matter what the result. You've just taken the first step in making your life a much better place.
/r/TheRedPill05/11/16 03:18 PM
3

Haven't read it. Best takeaways?
/r/TheRedPill05/10/16 03:22 PM
1

This is what you get for matching with a 5. She could sense your weakness.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/16 11:04 AM
1

Be sure to note the assumption in the question: somehow, you SHOULD have a wife or girlfriend. Your failure to conform to the expectations of others threatens them, because it forces them to it knowledge the fact that not everyone needs to have a spouse or LTR. Different people are scary to those who conform.
/r/TheRedPill14/09/16 01:08 PM
2

Create interest, don't await interest.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 08:20 PM
2

Learn fom what they do, not what they say.
/r/seduction13/08/16 11:38 AM
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Interesting opinion, but I wish you had done a little bit more work to support it. Essentially, all you've expressed is your own personal belief that raising a child is more valuable than not raising a child. There are no arguments as to why this is better for the prospective father, Or if it's not better for the perspective father, white makes sense to sacrifice his own Will being for the benefit of someone else. Sacrifice for its own sake is bullshit. In reality, every "sacrifice" worth making…
/r/TheRedPill08/08/16 01:37 PM
2

What you do depends on what you want. When you say you want a relationship, how does texting her instead of talking to her in person move you towards that goal? What does it mean to you to have a "relationship"? And what role should text messages play in that?
/r/seduction05/08/16 09:33 PM
1

People whose net worth is between 1 and 2 million don't buy expensive watches. People with HIGH net worth do.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/16 02:18 PM
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What kind of quiet guys are "mysterious"? The guys who are somehow communicating on the nonverbal level that they have something interesting about them or they have something going on. The fat neck beard in the corner who doesn't say anything conveys the image that he just doesn't have anything going on in his life. There's nothing interesting about him, even if he's got his fedora perched at a jaunty angle. That guy have to spit some mad game to get play. But if you look like Channing Tatum, th…
/r/TheRedPill29/06/16 01:33 PM
3

Maybe you're right. But what if you're not?
/r/TheRedPill22/06/16 04:24 AM
1

Hardly. You believe what you want to believe. This is both cause and effect.
/r/TheRedPill22/06/16 04:23 AM
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Understand that your anger is not about them, it's about you. You're angry that you can't attract them, interest them, captivate them. You're mad that you're somehow not good enough. You measure your self-worth by their response. You are surrendering yourself to them. You are giving control of yourself to them. You are demeaning yourself for them. And who the fuck are they, to do this to you? Who are they for you to give them this power over you? They're "cute". They're "bitches". They're "whore…
/r/TheRedPill22/06/16 03:08 AM
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Don't forget to escalate.
/r/seduction18/06/16 04:08 PM
1

You just got raped for your time.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/16 10:06 PM
1

Give yourself permission to feel shitty once in a while. When you do feel shitty, notices about yourself, and then observe how you find ways to successfully game even though you feel shitty. Anyone can perform while they are "in the zone". But if you practice gaming no matter what your mental state is, you will find that your successes will be that much sweeter when you are in an optimal state. And even when you're not, you'll find that you can perform better than you ever thought you could whil…
/r/seduction10/06/16 04:25 PM
1

A bar with a prior claim is going to have a real problem finding affordable insurance from a new carrier. Exorbitant premiums are the real reason the bar might shut down.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/16 02:12 PM
1

Sounds to me more like she wants the validation of having a "friend" and doesn't have so much interest in the benefits part. The way to increase your hookups is to turn her on. Get her tingling with excitement. You also need to be less available for her validation purposes. Being busy with other women you're dating is a great way to pull arise her interest. She'll either re-kindle her attraction to you, based on the competition, or reality will expose yourself, namely that she really didn't want…
/r/seduction09/06/16 11:48 PM
2

Dude is 18 years old. He should feel lucky he found out the truth now before it was too late.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/16 08:45 PM
1

What action do you think the insurance company will take upon the filing of such a suit?
/r/TheRedPill09/06/16 04:48 PM
1

A video about text. Just goes to show: use a richer medium. Involve more of her senses. Don't blend in with the beta orbiters who text her constantly. Fucking call her.
/r/seduction24/05/16 11:18 PM
1

He's probably subconsciously coming to terms with the fact that his personality is, and always has been, unattractive to women, and it's only his new social status it makes them attractive currently. 0P working a low status day labor job but had an alpha personality that turn women on despite his low socioeconomic status, and then suddenly found himself in a flush job where he was still attracting women, just more or better women, he wouldn't be nearly so bitter or angry. The lesson there is, wh…
/r/TheRedPill18/05/16 08:56 PM
1

This is sidebar material Like most of the men here, I incorporate playful banter and sexual humor into my game, and this post gives a clear explanation to consciously do what I've been doing unconsciously. Thanks for the great contribution.
/r/TheRedPill05/05/16 09:52 PM
2

What story are you telling yourself inside your head, about what's going to happen if you approach?
/r/seduction30/04/16 07:46 PM
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"Shhh. I'm trying to watch this."
/r/seduction13/04/16 09:45 PM
8

Good job on making your first approach! It's not as bad as it seems, right? Now go do it ten more times. Then a hundred. Then a thousand.
/r/seduction12/04/16 08:19 PM
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As you're coming closer to each other, and you have her eye, make a "come here" gesture to her, as if you have a secret to tell her. If she complies, you're in—just start the conversation by making a statement. If she doesn't comply, chalk it up as a miss.
/r/seduction12/04/16 08:18 PM
2

Great stuff. What inspired you to adopt your abundant love mindset?
/r/seduction02/04/16 09:26 PM
16

"Yes."
/r/seduction08/03/16 03:37 PM
63

She doesn't respect you or your time. I don't hear that she's taken a positive steps to fix that problem, nor have you. You clearly don't find it acceptable to be treated like this, but you're afraid to break it off because it's better to except this than to be alone, even if for a short period time. In other words, you're proceeding from a scarcity mentality.
/r/seduction08/03/16 03:35 PM
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High school is a very clique-y, social-circle based game. Build your network and your social proof. This is especially important in a smaller school. But don't forget, you also have options outside of school. You just have to find those and take advantage of them. Finally, don't sweat it too much. High school is in the be-all but don't forget, you also have options outside of school. You just have to find those and take advantage of them. Finally, don't sweat it too much. Everything gets better …
/r/seduction14/02/16 08:04 PM
6

Congrats on a great first step. One thing you should take away from this is many of the beliefs that have held you back until now are just wrong. Today you started to prove that to yourself.
/r/seduction13/02/16 08:42 PM
6

There are a number of posts all over Reddit on how to "spin plates" or how to manage a "soft harem." Instead of regurgitating all that's been written about these, I'm going to direct you to the search box where you can look these terms up. Short story, you should expect a little bit of turnover, but as long as you're upfront about your desires and actions, you'll always have a steady supply of women willing to cooperate.
/r/seduction08/02/16 07:40 PM
1

Part of your problem may be that you are unsure of the proper scaled escalation. When you first meet someone, Z Will almost never recoil from a handshake. That's a touch. As you get deeper into the conversation you can do things like touch them on the upper arm or shoulder, which are not threatening touches at all. As they develop a comfort for that, then you begin to escalate. Hold out your hand to them when you're inviting them to move somewhere else (imagine inviting girls to the dance floor …
/r/TheRedPill06/02/16 10:41 PM
1

Strict red pill is to never ask for either. Express your intentions and she either qualifies or she doesn't.
/r/TheRedPill06/02/16 01:16 PM
3

To the extent you have seen this view, it is from men who focus on organizing their lifestyles around women and Soli around women and who think their purpose in life is to attract women. Other men believe that money serves other purposes. Money is power. Money is a tool. Money can't buy you more time than you already have a lot of on this earth, but it can buy you back the hours you spend doing menial tasks that you can hire someone else to do for you. Money, for some, is a scorekeeper of succes…
/r/TheRedPill06/02/16 12:57 PM
2

I think Bill is right about football in particular, but here's an interesting viewpoint on some other male spaces that have been invaded by women: don't want to be cynical, but boy oh boy is it hard not to observe that at the very moment in our history when we have the most women in the Senate, Congress is perceived to be pathetic, bickering, easily manipulated and powerless, and I'll risk the blowback and say that those are all stereotypes of women. Easy, HuffPo, I know it's not causal, I am sa…
/r/TheRedPill06/02/16 12:43 PM
2

Don't worry about explaining anything. I don't think I've ever seen a girl ask "how many friends do you have, and be sure to justify the number?" If it somehow comes up in conversation that you don't have a large group of friends, you can just say that you've been selective about who you spend your time with. That immediately sets up, in her mind it least, a challenge for her to qualify for your attention.
/r/seduction28/01/16 10:51 PM
1

They don't want to "get to know you through texting." They're keeping you on the line in case nothing better pans out. Tinder is a near endless supply of women who you will never see in person or never meet again if you push to pull arise during the initial text and counter. What do I mean by polarize? Require her to make a decision about you right now, yes or no. Don't play it safe. Don't play not to lose. The preevent defense does nothing to prevent you from winning. Think of yourself as a qua…
/r/seduction28/01/16 12:38 AM
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I was disappointed that no one has responded to you before now. First of all, congratulations on making what sounds like a lot of progress. From social isolation to being a cool dude the girls are expressing interest in is a gigantic leap that many here won't ever make. Second of all, and I mean this in the best possible way, you're not being completely honest with yourself. It's not that you don't know what to do (first of all, there's no one single thing, it's many possible things) is that you…
/r/seduction28/01/16 12:31 AM
24

Hell, the $3 was probably worth seeing the look on the blonde's face.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/16 01:12 PM
4

1) Like all rules, advanced enough players know when to break them. See, for example, Shakespeare. 2) betas in the wild are usually self-evident.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/16 01:08 PM
3

But he got a lot of phone numbers from 7's in bars.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/16 01:04 PM
19

In the contrary, the MOST RP thing that happened was spending time with your dad and learning manly arts. Years from now, you're not going to remember the name of whatever girl you bang next week, but you'll never forget your dad taking you out to a bar for your 21st birthday. And neither will he.
/r/TheRedPill14/01/16 05:42 PM
2

Too many use this forum as a crutch instead of going out and taking the risks that lead to learning.
/r/seduction23/12/15 01:08 AM
1

You don't need help, you need practice. You're panicked because you don't view this date as you should: a learning experience. Whether you get laid or not, just learn.
/r/seduction11/12/15 11:01 PM
1

Edit: I can't read.
/r/seduction11/12/15 10:51 PM
1

Don't get hung up on any one girl. Get experience by dating and fucking multiple women. This one sounds like she's needs a more advanced approach after you've gained more experience elsewhere. Because your post reveals a lot of outcome dependence, so if you take a swing and miss it'll affect your game elsewhere. Level up, but start with the level you're at and work your way up from there.
/r/seduction11/12/15 10:50 PM
69

If I was a girl I'd expect my facial hair to be a deal breaker. Nobody likes a chick with facial hair.
/r/seduction04/12/15 05:29 PM
6

TL;DR: When someone insults you without cause, take the bait and get in a flame war. What a waste of energy that is.
/r/TheRedPill29/11/15 02:50 PM
6

Guys who pursue girls at work usually do so because they don't have any lives outside of the workplace and don't have any options developed outside of the workplace. In other words, it's a very blue pill trait. And for men who own their own businesses, there is no pussy worth the danger of losing everything you've built, and that on top of that the fact that Thanga subordinate on the clock is just taking money out of your own pocket. Bad form all the way around.
/r/TheRedPill08/11/15 04:22 PM
1

If you see her, say hi and go about your business. Don't get all butt hurt. In fact, it's probably not even about you.
/r/seduction08/11/15 04:18 PM
1

Don't take legal advice from Reddit, first of all. Just because a recording may or may not have been made illegally, does not necessarily mean it would be inadmissible in court. First of all, in order to exclude it, the prosecution would have to prove that it was made without consent (if the two-party consent is an issue). And the judge would have to hear the tape—first problem for the prosecution—and in that tape, the judge hears that she consented to sex and is now lying about that consent lat…
/r/TheRedPill30/10/15 06:22 PM
10

Stop texting right now. By that I mean, stop using text as a medium for pick up. Talk to her in person, or just fucking call her. When you text, you blend in with all the other douche bag orbiters were texting her all day as well. But when you have the balls to actually call her, you stand out. Even more so when you have the Kurds to interact with her in person. So stop texting already.
/r/seduction13/10/15 12:30 AM
1

You should fill that calendar slot with another girl.
/r/seduction12/10/15 09:43 PM
1

Are you escalating? Are you using kino? Have you slept with her yet? Every conversation you have with her should be designed to escalate to the next level. A phone call should be for the purpose of meeting person. Meeting in person should lead to physical contact. Physical contact should lead to her coming home with you. Her coming home with usually just remind blowing sex. If you're stuck it in and will circle conversations to go nowhere, it's because you have failed to escalate. Fix that, and …
/r/seduction12/10/15 09:42 PM
20

Baby steps. Let the man do a few more cold approaches first.
/r/TheRedPill29/09/15 07:25 PM
8

Imagine yourself in the womb, safe, comforted, and warm. Then suddenly, your thrust out of the world, where it's cold, blindingly bright, and very scary. But it's better to be out in the world than in the womb, because they're so much more to life that you can experience outside the womb. That's what just happened to you. You push out of a safe, comforting, confining mental environment into one that's scary and overloading your senses, but one which ultimately offers you a much better Life once …
/r/TheRedPill29/09/15 07:22 PM
1

I know plenty of women who were successful professionals before marriage. They often keep their "stage" names at work but the good ones always changed their legal names to take on the husband's.
/r/TheRedPill29/09/15 11:03 AM
5

They deserve to be treated like you'd treat your mom (or should treat your mom So, hair pulling and ass slapping?
/r/seduction28/09/15 01:00 PM
1

Your parents sound like pretty miserable people. And how you treat them will tell volumes to others about who you are as a person. Do you minimize the negative influence they have on your current life? Do you treat them with respect, even if they haven't earned it, and even if it's from a distance? Or do you drink it all the negativity and let it foul your own life? Do you emulate them and treat people in your life like they treat people in theirs?
/r/seduction28/09/15 12:16 PM
1

Who said anything about putting your hands in their face? You need to work on your reading comprehension, friend.
/r/TheRedPill21/09/15 10:13 PM
13

Set it down somewhere. Walk away. Forget where you left it.
/r/seduction21/09/15 10:12 PM
-4

Body language helps. If someone else starts talking while you'reW finishing your sentence, calmly hold up your hand in a "stop" gesture and finish (or repeat, if necessary) what you were saying.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/15 11:17 PM
30

Hateful subreddit my ass. This is golden for me. Wish I could upvote this twice.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/15 11:15 PM
3

Sounds like you've got this handled. Carry on.
/r/seduction19/09/15 08:36 PM
26

You sound pretty advanced. I really like the "how many muscles" routine and the way you handled all the tests she threw out. Just one warning: this girl as you describe her is plastered in red flags. She will inevitably see you as a meal ticket, because she sounds like she's got nothing else going on in her life. Fuck her until she begs for mercy, but don't let this get serious.
/r/seduction19/09/15 01:01 PM
1

"I have started today. I am doing it now. I just approached that girl. I just got her number. I am inviting her for a drink tonight. I am now going home to clean up my apartment so that I will have a place to bring her at the end of the night." As long as we are improving the self talk, let's upgraded as far as we can.
/r/TheRedPill18/09/15 08:15 PM
0

You should never be "chasing" anyway. You should be approaching, sure, and escalating after your approach, but you should never, ever chase.
/r/seduction18/09/15 08:09 PM
4

You should have an abundance of women, but good friends are hard to find. If you don't have an abundance of women, work on that instead.
/r/seduction17/09/15 06:12 PM
4

They will need to adjust their diets to address this irony deficiency.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/15 05:52 PM
61

"You chop onions so poorly, it makes me want to cry." Yeah, that sucks.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 06:55 PM
3

I'd rather spend the day with my buddies in a bar and paying someone else to do the moving for me. Moving sucks.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/15 02:36 PM
9

Or maybe she's a lousy lay.
/r/TheRedPill22/08/15 05:36 PM
2

Not even better all-around, just better in some way she cares about.
/r/TheRedPill22/08/15 05:23 PM
1

Don't date in college. Fuck in college.
/r/TheRedPill22/08/15 05:21 PM
2

You know what women really fine sexy? A man who can afford to pay someone else to do his chores for him.
/r/TheRedPill12/08/15 10:33 PM
2

Don't date girls who forget their wallets. It's one thing to make a conscious decision to pick up the tab everyone's and then, especially if your income is where you want to to be, and your entertainment budget accommodates the expense. But these women are exploiting you. I'm also not a big believer in "dates"with women you aren't sleeping with yet, at least the kind of dates where splitting the check is going to be and express or implied debate. Inviting her to a concert? Tell her how much the …
/r/TheRedPill12/08/15 12:48 PM
9

at least our last name is already Thundercock So you took your wife's last name then?
/r/TheRedPill07/08/15 01:10 PM
1

It's pretty clear that this is just vanilla commercial blackmail, with an unusually salacious demand, and has little to do with white knighting. The details of the extortion demands and the hack itself all point to a disgruntled former insider looking for revenge. For example, they name check the company's director of security. From the user side of the coin, this is just more evidence, as if anymore we needed, that marriage is dead. Also dead: common sense. 37 million users cheating on their sp…
/r/TheRedPill21/07/15 02:42 PM
15

Imagine her reaction, the first time she hears the counter proposal: "No, when I'm 30, I'll be banging 22-year-olds."
/r/TheRedPill20/07/15 10:55 PM
5

Dear loyal employees: In response to the government's actions today regarding the gender wage gap, every male employee of the company shall henceforth receive 77% of his current compensation levels. If you have any questions, please see a female employee of the company. Sincerely, Your employers.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/15 05:03 PM
1

"Hey, you're cute. What's your number?"
/r/seduction03/07/15 04:12 AM
1

I think your feelings about your stature are getting in the way. You always have the option of bulking up in the gym, but it's probably more important to "broke up" your personality. If your larger than life in personality, size will matter less. Just consider yourself 64 inches of lean, mean, South Asian sex appeal. You're also probably going to have a greater success rate going after shorter girls rather than taller ones, but you shouldn't be afraid to challenge yourself by going after our gir…
/r/seduction02/07/15 01:15 PM
1

Own your decisions. If you're prioritizing your family over approaching, then why are you beating yourself up, unless that decision is otherwise inconsistent with your values? The fact that you're beating yourself up over not leaving your family to talk to a girl tells me that you're probably having some kind of internal struggle. Just wants, tell your family "hey, I'll be right back" and go make the approach. See what happens. Maybe they don't think it's rude. Maybe you're inventing that in you…
/r/seduction02/07/15 01:09 PM
2

Tell her you have a girlfriend and you're not open to any other options. And stop talking to her. You're wasting your time and hers, and she clearly doesn't respect your wishes.
/r/seduction02/07/15 01:01 PM
1

What is your goal here? What do you mean you just want to "hang out" with her instead of going on a date?
/r/seduction02/07/15 12:59 PM
2

The tone of this response is a little hostile, but I assume he's trying to shake the question out of his shell. The advice is actually pretty solid. The only IOI that matters is the interest you have, and whether she's receptive to your attempts to escalate. But you've really got to make a move early, and you probably already blown this one. Also, this seems a little desperate and opportunistic. In other words, are you only making moves on girls other people bring over to you, or are you actuall…
/r/seduction02/07/15 12:58 PM
1

Remember to treat this as a learning experience. Everything you do is experimentation, so even things you are certain work will sometimes fail. But there is no failure, there is only feedback. If it doesn't work, maybe you can try something else or doing better. Approach this with a curiosity minds and you will obtain much greater benefits then if you go out with the goal of "I must get laid, today!"
/r/seduction02/07/15 12:53 PM
1

The proper mindset is to stop trying to get your ex-girlfriend back, and go out and find one of the millions of women out in the world who are far better than she is. I'm sure your ex is a special snowflake and all that, but ask yourself whether you're really just driven by fear that you'll never find anybody better. If that's the case, that's what you need to get over. Because that sentiment is bullshit. There's always someone better. You just need to go out and find them. (And I do mean "them"…
/r/seduction02/07/15 12:51 PM
1

This is the only option you have in the next 6 to 8 weeks? If that's the case, work on that. Life is too short to put it on hold waiting for some girl become available. At all times, you should be developing a range of options available to you at any given time. In other words, you should have at least three or four phone numbers you can call right now to get a date this weekend, whether this one girl is available or not.
/r/seduction02/07/15 12:48 PM
2

Calibration is mostly about observation. When you were in a conversation with someone, or when you're observing a conversation happening between two other people, make it a point to observe the actions and reactions of both sides, and try to discern if the action got the desired reaction. The more you practice observing, the better you will be at bring about the desired reaction when you are engaging conversation.
/r/seduction02/07/15 12:45 PM
3

This guy is absolutely a dickhead, and under no circumstances should he be considered a friend. Drop him like a rock: unfollow, unfriend, block. That said, OP cannot completely insulate himself from the assholes in the world, and needs to figure out how to handle and when they pull shit like this. These are shit test just like any girl would give you, except it's a guy seeing whether you'll get rattled by shit like this. Any of the standard should test responses should do here: flip the script, …
/r/seduction02/07/15 12:29 PM
7

As soon as I saw number one, I was practically shouting at my computer screen: "bail out! Bail out!" Sounds like OP has learned all the hard lessons in the most painful way, but now has his life back on track. I look forward to part two, the update. Hopefully it'll be a little more cheerful than this one was.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/15 08:46 PM
1

If you find yourself roasting in the sun, the question is not whether someone has planted a tree for you, the question is whether you should plant a tree for the future so that others may have shade.
/r/TheRedPill24/06/15 07:00 PM
1

If you look close, you can actually see a grain of truth in response. She said the problem was dictating the "what" without informing of the "why". In other words, she should've told Tom why she didn't want to have sex with him, i.e., that she was an alpha widow. If she had been honest with Tom at that point, then he would have no one to blame but himself from then on. As it was, he probably misunderstood her moans to think that she was actually currently sleeping around on him, Which would go a…
/r/TheRedPill22/06/15 04:33 PM
1

This is all the help you need.
/r/seduction20/06/15 02:16 PM
2

And now he's dead, and his SMV is zero.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/15 01:28 PM
1

Genetics were so much different in the 1960s compared to today.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/15 01:27 PM
1

Lessons learned: avoid fruit when you're dating.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/15 10:35 PM
1

The headline reads as if he got more out of the revenge than out of the self-improvement. The body of the post reads more like he got more out of the self improvement than the revenge. The latter is the better course.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/15 10:33 PM
1

That definitely turns into a he said she said scenario, but once you've already proved she's a liar about the main thing, I guess that's less of a problem. Still, it doesn't sound very credible that someone would bring rape charges knowing that they have been recorded.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/15 10:23 PM
1

Hey prosecutor can drop the case, and a judge can throw the case out, and once they learn they been lied to, that is the proper an ethical response. Of course, not all prosecutors and judges are ethical.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/15 10:20 PM
6

Even if the evidence is inadmissible, (which it may not be, even if it is illegally obtained) in order to get it excluded, both the prosecutor and the judge will have to listen to it first. I know most people don't have a lot of faith in the legal system (and I count myself among those) but you have to run into a real set of SOBs who would continue to prosecute you for rape in that circumstance. Now, if your illegal wiretapping contains sexual content, some states may have laws that make you a s…
/r/TheRedPill11/06/15 09:47 PM
1

Most states are one party consent states. However, several states are two party consent states. Make sure to know which one yours is before you start recording, and weigh the risk for yourself.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/15 09:43 PM
5

A real man calls himself whatever the fuck he wants to call himself, and doesn't need your approval. But I usually cringe when I see guys do this, because it's usually the ones who aren't real men who choose to do it.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/15 08:53 PM
1

I thought fishermen didn't ask fish for advice on how to ply their trade?
/r/TheRedPill09/06/15 12:38 AM
2

But think of this: a woman has to publicly admit that she only slept with a guy because she thought he had money. That may be true, but almost no one would ever admit she's a whore.
/r/TheRedPill27/05/15 12:11 PM
48

As soon as you realized what was going on, you could have adopted a strategy of DISQUALIFY and POLARIZE. Express your intentions to the group that you just want to get laid tonight. Tease the "designated" girl that you could never get with her because she's too goody-goody. Stuff like that. One of two things will happen. Either she will decide to be the kind of girl you would be into, or she will remove herself from interest early, leaving you free to pursue the others. Worst case scenario, you …
/r/TheRedPill27/05/15 12:14 AM
8

You approached. That's awesome. You didn't get the girl. That sucks. Try again.
/r/seduction26/05/15 10:39 PM
1

I think the first thing you need to do is figure out whether there's any sexual chemistry there. Otherwise, you're just friends without benefits. If there is some kind of sexual spark, or you're able to create one, then set the ground rules before you do the deed. But keep in mind that just because you have a verbal agreement just mean her emotions (And possibly yours) are going to stay within the lines you've agreed to draw.
/r/seduction19/05/15 09:45 PM
1

The problem is not the reactions of your friends, it's the way you view yourself. Reading between the lines, you seem to have convinced yourself that you're not really sure you're doing the right thing by expressing your interest in a woman. Find the part of you that's telling yourself these lies, and kill it. It is right, natural, and proper for a senior in high school to want to be with a woman. If you have so-called "friends" around you who don't think that's right, you need to find yourself …
/r/seduction15/05/15 05:33 PM
29

Nice job. This should be encouraging to the "what do you say to a girl?" Crowd: it doesn't really matter what you say, just that you say something.
/r/seduction15/05/15 05:23 PM
2

I just about lost it. So close, and yet so, so far away.
/r/TheRedPill15/05/15 12:25 AM
4

This is absolutely true. I see this in my career. A few years ago I "leveled up" and a lot of my day-to-day life got to the point where I was being challenged every day on even routine matters. At first, it took me by surprise. Now I expect it, I prepare for it, and when met with resistance, I annihilate it. I don't play life on easy mode anymore, but it's a lot more fun when I win. And as OP noted, the kind of confidence you develop when you put yourself out there, risking getting knockdown, an…
/r/TheRedPill12/05/15 08:03 PM
7

It sounds like the mods in our group need to start banning the mods of /r/offmychest Clearly, they are opposed to a male-positive agenda. That kind of discrimination cannot be tolerated in a male-safe space. Off with their heads.
/r/TheRedPill12/05/15 07:55 PM
1

It is, actually, what I meant. As men, we decide what we want, and then we either achieve that or we don't. If we fail to achieve what we want, then we need to make the necessary adjustments until we do. I, personally, enjoy getting laid and I do the things I I need to do to get laid when I want. Sometimes I have more important things on my agenda than getting laid, so I knock those out instead. Sometimes, I don't even feel like getting laid, saw some other leisure activity. Either way, I do wha…
/r/seduction12/05/15 07:52 PM
32

She might be better than any of the others, but she's not better than ALL of the others.
/r/TheRedPill11/05/15 11:49 PM
5

Hell, that's just an average Tuesday.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/15 07:56 PM
2

What an amazing display of awareness. Not 100% on point, but a great start.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/15 05:36 PM
3

How do you deal with rejection? Seek it out. Embrace it. If you're not getting rejections, then you're not putting yourself out there enough.
/r/seduction07/05/15 03:42 PM
5

"Good. Come on over."
/r/seduction05/05/15 06:40 PM
1

I don't know who's looking down at you, but as long as you're getting laid when you want, it's all good.
/r/seduction03/05/15 10:56 PM
3

Stop worrying about girls. Your most urgent project right now is you. Until you live yourself for who you are, don't expect anyone else to. Become a person that you can love. Find your mission. Strive for it. Stay in shape. Present yourself to the world as if you're proud of who you are, and so whatever it takes to make that actually true. There is a part of you that is amazing. Maybe you don't see it yet. Maybe it's buried under a bunch if other shit. Maybe you don't yet know what it is. Find i…
/r/seduction02/05/15 03:43 PM
2

I agree the guy is entitled to a little bit of leeway for not being able to respond immediately. I'm encouraged that he seems to appreciate that this is something worth leaving her for. I only hope that he has the courage to do what he needs to do.
/r/TheRedPill28/04/15 10:05 PM
2

Mix more statements into your conversation. You statements that are designed to provoke a response, especially ones that give your conversation partner multiple "hooks" to respond to. A person who is even remotely interested will take one of those hooks and continue the conversation in some direction. Don't be afraid to say something controversial or provocative: "You look like the kind of girl who likes country music, but would never admit it to her friends." Take a minute and think about all t…
/r/seduction27/04/15 05:24 PM
1

Easy. If you like her, you can sit back and let her talk. A guy who listens is this girl's fantasy. If you can't stand listening to her babble, either control the conversation with your words, tone, and gestures, or just next her.
/r/seduction25/04/15 11:39 PM
3

Good. Better: I'm going to the Warhol exhibit at 7. I've got a spare ticket. Meet me there.
/r/seduction24/04/15 09:41 PM
11

Give this man a gold star.
/r/seduction24/04/15 09:38 PM
2

It works as often as you try it. "You look like a girl who knows how to ride a motorcycle properly." Try this. I guarantee she'll respond.
/r/seduction24/04/15 09:38 PM
7

"I'm going out to Crowbar for drinks at 7. Join me. Wear something leather."
/r/seduction24/04/15 09:35 PM
3

Get out of your head and get out of the math, and start focusing on experiencing your body. I hate treadmills too, so most of my running is outside. Once you really get into with your body and connect with the world around you, you will start to feel things that you didn't know were possible. When you feel the want of the sun on your face, when you feel a refreshing sprinkle of rain, or a cool breeze in your bag, it's like the universe is pouring energy into you. And you're taking up energy and …
/r/TheRedPill24/04/15 04:17 PM
1

Look, you basically minute that you've been in a relationship for a while so you really don't know what you're doing. The interaction you had with this girl proves that you're correct about that. You can't build attraction over text, you can just lose it. (There are exceptions approve the rule, but none of them are so new as you.) Your first problem is you've already pissed away most of your opportunity with this woman by texting her too much. Secondly, you don't understand the value of talking …
/r/seduction23/04/15 12:53 PM
2

Confidence is a muscle that needs exercise or all atrophy. But if you put in the work you will get stronger. And just like building muscle, you start with small weights and gradually work up to heavier ones. Nervous about approaching? Practice talking to people who have to talk back to you, like cashiers, servers, bank tellers and the like. Once you're comfortable doing that, you'll have the ability to strike up a conversation with a stranger in an elevator. Then talk to the dude on the barstool…
/r/seduction23/04/15 12:34 PM
7

I do something like this. Instead of a "date" I try to plan things I'd be happy to do by myself or with friends, and considerate as inviting her along to share my adventure. If she doesn't join me, I'm still going on that fucking adventure. She's the one missing out.
/r/seduction22/04/15 11:42 PM
2

The idea that foreign women are somehow better than American women is a violation of the principle of AWALT. A man who has his shit together will find plenty of top shelf American pussy to run through in just about any town or city of a reasonable size. Demographics can affect this, for instance, if you live in a place where most people retirement age then you'll probably have to look elsewhere. Otherwise, guys like Roosh who only want to date Ukrainian women are deluding themselves.
/r/TheRedPill21/04/15 12:26 PM
2

or they're in a group of a bunch of girls. This is the ideal situation. Move into her line of sight, make eye contact, and wave her over to you. (Yes, even if you don't know her. This takes balls.) When she comes over, tell her why you wanted to meet her.
/r/seduction16/04/15 09:27 PM
1

I didn't say to cut off contact, I said to interact with her outside of texting. And certainly don't sit around and wait for her to take the lead. You're the man, take charge. Surely you've got some kind of adventure going on this weekend that you can share with her. Maybe you've got an extra ticket to a cool concert. Maybe you're going hiking. Maybe there's a cool new bar you wanted to try. Whatever, doesn't matter. Make your plans and invite her along. How should you invite her? I prefer, in t…
/r/seduction16/04/15 09:16 PM
1

I don't understand the sequence of who texted who, but it doesn't change the ultimate rule: You can't build attraction over text, you can just lose it. Generally speaking, you should only use text to escalate to A different, richer medium of communication, preferably in person date. Texting sucks, and men who lead busy fulfilling lives don't spend a lot of time texting. There are a ton of beta chomps who will spend their time texting, feeding the validation machine that is always in her hand, an…
/r/seduction16/04/15 04:43 PM
4

When talking to women, I invite them out for in-person dates with the intention of sleeping with them. With guys, I don't.
/r/seduction15/04/15 11:24 PM
2

Stop. Fucking. Texting. Men with busy lives don't text unless they're setting up the next date.
/r/seduction15/04/15 11:19 PM
2

There are probably some of the strategies in this sub that may cross over, but I'd bet that guy on guy seduction is different enough that could probably justify its own group.
/r/seduction10/04/15 04:54 PM
1

Don't try to be smooth. Make your poor dancing an inside joke. Exaggerate how bad you are and find a way to laugh about together. No one else will give a fuck if you don't. If you're having fun, and laughing together, nothing else matters. Except kino. (A little outrageously exaggerated grinding might help there).
/r/seduction10/04/15 04:52 PM
5

Even an American judge is unlikely to award child support for imputed children. Best argument against no-fap I've ever read.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/15 09:52 PM
1

Who would fuck that guy? He even sucks as a musician.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/15 09:10 PM
20

If a girls suggests an alternative time, that's a good sign.
/r/seduction06/04/15 08:25 PM
1

This was my first thought as well.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/15 10:54 PM
3

You should really raise your standards. After getting a new job, first. You're banging a sub-par girl and you're her manager? There are more red flags here than flew over Lenin's tomb.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/15 10:48 PM
2

I'm curious what your goal is here. Are you trying to keep her as just a plate while you spin others? And if so, will you be satisfied with not having intercourse? (I don't really care, nor do I have an opinion, about whether she's a virgin or not) I'm interested in how you foresee your long-term strategy on this one, if you expect anything longer than a few more weeks with her.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/15 10:27 PM
1

Besides, a girl in an LTR is probably getting laid more frequently than someone who is single. Even a complete slut is unlikely to be nailing 2 to 3 new guys every week while single (not impossible, I know, but still pretty unusual).
/r/TheRedPill03/03/15 10:27 PM
1

And even if a woman was in a long-term relationship, there's nothing to say that she was faithful to that entire time. She could've been riding the AF/BB cock carousel behind her beta boyfriend's back the entire time, without his knowledge. And then all your numbers go out the window. On the other hand, it's a relatively decent point that a woman who has been mostly in LTR's is probably better long-term material that someone who has spent most of her life being single.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/15 10:24 PM
0

Not all shit tests are created equal. (NASTALT). There are plenty of test that deserve a flat out rejection. "Hold my purse!" Or "Buy me a drink!" No. Just no. But, at least in the initial phases, shit testing is screening you as acceptable companion. A high-value man isn't afraid to be tested, because he knows he will rise to whatever challenge is in his path. As you transition from the early phase into a longer-term relationship, she should no longer need to test you. That is bad behavior, and…
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 09:03 PM
3

It was also her way of telling you not to believe a word that's comes out of her mouth.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 06:41 PM
12

"No, that's not true. All guys want is sex with HOT GIRLS." When a girl tests you like this, she's being the asshole. Don't be afraid to reciprocate in kind. Or, in the alternative, "what about that turns you on so much?"
/r/seduction26/02/15 02:08 PM
2

Stop texting.
/r/seduction24/02/15 02:03 AM
1

Confidence means knowing you have the building to meet whatever challenge my face in a given situation. If you lack confidence, it means you're not pushing yourself. If your job is boring, or your school isn't enriching you, and your friends are pushing you for new experiences, then your confidence muscle atrophies. But if you spend your days doing things that challenge your limits, make you stress yourself to the outer limits of your abilities, you're going to develop confidence even if you fai…
/r/seduction13/02/15 06:28 PM
7

Instead of "back off" I would consider that "recalibrate". One implies retreat, while the other implies course correction. In that light, it is definitely easier to make a course correction if you're moving at the right speed. If you're not moving at all, there's no course to correct, but if you are moving too fast, you won't be able to react in time to get back on target.
/r/seduction11/02/15 01:29 PM
-1

Thanks for this. I find myself answering a lot of questions in AskSeddit and I really stated as plainly and simply as "assume attraction" even though I know the phrase well. Now I just need to come up with a snappy response for "how do I approach this girl in my class?"
/r/seduction11/02/15 01:25 PM
2

Great summation. The "blunt force" approach described by OP is simply another technique. It is not a cerebral as some of the other approaches described, but is in many ways more difficult for those without that real world experience that you talk about.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/15 02:37 PM
22

If the MOH wants to financially rape some groomsmen, then yes, yes it is.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/15 01:40 PM
14

The lesson they just learn from this? That's easily worth the three grand. It's one will never forget, and they will value it more and if someone had given them this information for free. It's like tuition in the college of life.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/15 01:33 PM
0

It is obvious you either didn't read or didn't understand this thread or the link you just posted. Reading comprehension is fundamental, bro.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/15 01:25 PM
2

There's one thing Sergey Brin can do better than you. Search.
/r/TheRedPill08/02/15 04:42 AM
1

That is often how atheists are made.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/15 06:23 PM
0

What you believe and what you post are two different things. Misinformation is harmful.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/15 02:36 PM
0

A guy like him can find a plethora of tens with PhD's in computer science from all over the world.
/r/TheRedPill06/02/15 11:28 PM
-2

If you have no idea what you're talking about, which you basically admit in your post, you should look it up before posting anything.
/r/TheRedPill06/02/15 11:25 PM
2

Guys who date girls they meet at work have just given up on the idea that they can find girls outside of work. A man who has options doesn't do this.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/15 04:53 PM
1

Choose to dress better for yourself, not for women. Choose to be a good conversationalist for yourself, not for women. Choose to get in shape and stay in shape for yourself, not for women. Choose to be the best man you possibly can be, for yourself, not for women. Choose to crush your mission in life for yourself, not for women. If you do those things, you'll notice the sex will start to take care of itself.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/15 01:42 PM
3

Good thing this guy didn't delete these messages, then. It's a shame his name got dragged through the mud, since 90% of people will never see his side of the story. And what a side it is.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/15 01:11 PM
10

All women SHOULD like sucking dick. #LikeAGirl
/r/TheRedPill04/02/15 01:05 PM
4

According to Reddit's terms of service, each individual user retains the copyright to any content they submit to the site. This means any person wishing to republish content from the site needs to get permission from the user who originally submitted it. Moderators cannot do this for any content other than their own individual submissions. I suppose it would be possible for the moderators to require, as a condition of continued posting privileges in this particular form, that submitters of any n…
/r/TheRedPill04/02/15 12:57 PM
3

Agree and amplify. "Yes! It's microscopic. ". Laugh. Then move on.
/r/TheRedPill03/02/15 06:56 PM
9

Actually, just order a pregnancy test and sonogram of your own from the fake baby site. When she claims to be pregnant, without your own test and say "so am I!" And of course, she's that child's father.
/r/TheRedPill03/02/15 02:38 PM
43

You've missed the point. You don't waive the vasectomy papers around before you have sex with her. You wait until she presents you with the pregnancy test and sonogram. And then show them to her. Her reaction will tell you everything you need to know. Obviously, don't do what some poster mentioned, which is wave them around in court. That's just stupid.
/r/TheRedPill03/02/15 02:34 PM
3

You escalate by gradually increasing physical contact. You escalate by changing venues (leave the coffee shop and go for a walk or to a bar near your place). Touch her hair, then lean in and kiss her. Invite her back to your place— any excuse is acceptable. ("I want to introduce you to my goldfish."). This gives her plausible deniability, even though you both know it's on. If she were to reach out and touch you, if she were to lean over and kiss you, you wouldn't pull back with you? Imagine she …
/r/TheRedPill01/02/15 09:26 PM
1

You have listed a number of outward manifestations of what most of us with regard to success. You have got a good job, making good money, you're in good shape, your health is solid... There's nothing you can point you on the outside that says fix this, it's broken. But there's some voice inside of you that says none of these things are true. None of these things are good enough. None of these things are right. None of these things make me the man I want to be. Probably the most important thing i…
/r/seduction01/02/15 07:27 PM
3

What about marriage makes her gel more secure than your current arrangement, in her mind? I'm guessing it's the ability for her to divorce-rape you afterwards. If she's honest enough to asking that to herself, and to you, she may be worth keeping around and it may help her realize why you won't marry her.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/15 11:13 PM
2

This sounds like a text conversation. She's looking for validation, and you're giving it to her. She replies and her own convenience, but when she does she pulls you in because she wants you to keep responding to her, to validate that she's worth talking to. You're giving her everything she wants, and getting nothing in return. Stop it. Don't text her unless you are securing a time and place for her to meet you in person. Texting her is not increasing her attraction to you, it simply convincing …
/r/seduction23/01/15 02:46 PM
0

In your 30s, you will have lots more opportunities date women in their 20s. When you were in your 20s all the women your age were dating men who are older than them, and you are about to rip the flipside of that. But here's the best answer: try it for yourself and see what happens. I expect you'll find the dating 20-year-old is more rewarding than dating 30 somethings, but the thirtysomethings will be more eager to lock down a man, because they since time is running out. So the date whoever you …
/r/seduction23/01/15 02:37 PM
5

Just one more reminder to ignore her words, but pay attention to her actions.
/r/TheRedPill22/01/15 10:13 PM
2

But not really. They all secretly harbor desires, especially for women who are out of their league. Still though, funny to think about.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/15 11:44 PM
4

I almost always agree with that principle, but I actually clicked to the article, and I was surprised to find that all 10 points are solid. Some are better than others, of course, but for the most part, they're dead on. Upvotes for OP.
/r/seduction20/01/15 11:06 PM
78

Also, compliments from a low SMV Guy are deemed to be insincere, because they are assumed to be seeking something in return. Compliments from a high SMV guy, who is implicitly drowning in pussy, are more likely to be sincere and he is less likely, in their minds, to be fishing for something more.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/15 10:59 PM
1

Thanks for sharing. Good luck on the unicorn hunt. Less competition for the rest of us.
/r/TheRedPill12/01/15 06:23 PM
4

Your position is perfectly reasonable. Another problem with dinner as a first date is it it's kind of a cliché. Really, you want to do something unusual and adventurous to get her really tingling. What that is will vary depending on your location, your interest, and even her interest. Adrenaline junkie? Go find some roller coasters or test drive a sports car. Bookish by nature? Go see the rare book collection at your local museum or library. Music lovers? Find yourself awesome concert. The idea …
/r/seduction08/01/15 10:38 PM
3

Increase income. Use increased income to pay down debt. Repeat until debt is gone.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/15 04:49 PM
2

Get blowjobs from other women.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/15 01:10 AM
16

The women I'm with love sex. You're either with the wrong women or you're the wrong man.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/15 01:07 AM
1

The only thing you could've done better is to approach more women, in hopes of funny when he didn't have a boyfriend. It sounds like you handled this one extremely well. If you did that 10 times in one day, you would probably get at least a handful of dates out of it. Go out there and try, try again.
/r/seduction07/01/15 10:10 PM
1

"Again? You haven't earned a SECOND squeeze. But maybe if you ask really nicely, we'll see what happens."
/r/TheRedPill24/12/14 07:40 PM
2

I like that. Vagueness makes it interesting. Once again, delivery is the key to success with that one.
/r/seduction24/12/14 07:36 PM
2

Seriously, don't do any of this. Remember that the "Neg" was devised as a tool to solve a specific problem. The problem was framed as the perceived elevated self worth of a particular female target, but it actually also mass the perceived underestimated self-worth of the man doing approach. It's a classic bullying tactic, telling other people down to make yourself feel better. That's why this is deservedly scorned by PUA critics, and almost completely disowned by experts in seduction. Push/pull …
/r/seduction24/12/14 07:35 PM
2

This is not negging. Don't neg. Disqualify. Forget the word "neg" exists.
/r/seduction24/12/14 06:21 AM
2

No. No. No. No.
/r/seduction24/12/14 06:15 AM
8

She's just using you to validate that she's sexually attractive to younger men. She has no intention of following through. And you're falling for it like a sucker. Next time she flirts with you, just laugh it off and tell her that she's all talk and no action. She'll either prove you right or prove you wrong. Either way, you're better off.
/r/seduction24/12/14 03:33 AM
3

"Oh, I could never date you. Girls from _____ are too ____ for my taste." Just one of many examples. If she likes you, she'll try to prove to you that she has the opposite quality of the one you mentioned. So, let's say you are looking for The girl who's sexually ventures. You would suggest that you could never work between you because she's not adventurous enough. She'll either agree with you, in which case bullet dodged, or she'll try to prove you wrong, in which case you both win.
/r/seduction24/12/14 03:26 AM
1

A well thought out theory, and field testing too? Somebody move this man to the front of the line.
/r/TheRedPill18/12/14 09:48 PM
7

This is gold. I've been in active contributor on Seddit and AskSeddit for a very long time now. The number one question I see, one that indicates to me a newb or other man convinced it is on low status, how to game girls over text or Facebook. I have a theory that most men are pussies, and it dovetails pretty well with what you're saying here. Men who can't stand the thought of face-to-face rejection or are afraid of in person physical contact with women resort to Facebook and tender and other e…
/r/TheRedPill18/12/14 09:44 PM
29

Nicely done. I would take another lesson from this, as well. She was making a move. She was giving you an opening. You were man enough to take it. Most women move in ways that require plausible deniability so they don't get perceived as sluts. That's one reason they expect men to make the move. It's also why their best move is to simply give the opening and hope you take it. Good job.
/r/seduction16/12/14 10:30 PM
58

So what happened this weekend that made this so clear to you?
/r/seduction16/12/14 03:07 PM
1

http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/e873a/how_do_i_show_her_how_i_feel_about_her/
/r/seduction15/12/14 02:00 PM
1

If you believe game doesn't work, you will be correct. If you apply it diligently with an open mind, you'll be surprised at what you can accomplish.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/14 08:04 PM
3

People don't give you gigs. You get yourself gigs. Go out and earn them.
/r/seduction10/12/14 05:29 PM
-3

Tits and cock-sucking skills are the way to capture my attention. Can't pass up a good blowjob.
/r/seduction07/12/14 03:56 AM
3

Good reason. So where do you meet your girls?
/r/seduction19/11/14 03:54 PM
1

I handled this situation like a guy who has never swam before and so does a fucked up little dog paddle, but at least I did it. Keep on paddling, brother. Don't let the haters get you down.
/r/TheRedPill17/11/14 05:20 PM
11

its outdated that the women's family pay for the wedding Actually, it's just the wedding that's outdated. But they won't admit that.
/r/TheRedPill14/11/14 05:44 AM
1

You're describing an anxiety that goes beyond the normal fear of rejection that most PUA advice is designed to address. Your "inner game" sounds broken in a way that mere rejection conditioning and "state" games won't fix. It sounds like you've had professional help—don't stop with that. Talk to your doctors about this anxiety that is crippling a pretty important part of your life—the ability to bring new people into your life.
/r/seduction11/11/14 12:13 PM
2

Well, you need therapy to fix what's going on with you. That's the solution. If your insurance won't pay for it, that's a financial problem to solve. But therapy is probably going to be what helps.
/r/seduction11/11/14 12:13 PM
2

Sounds to me like you might be missing some opportunities to play, player. Go get 'em.
/r/seduction09/11/14 09:44 PM
2

Feedback: you know what you did wrong and did right. Fix what you did wrong to do more of what you did right and you should be just fine.
/r/seduction09/11/14 09:37 PM
1

Make sure to pair the denim jacket with the cargo pants. That will really pull your look together.
/r/TheRedPill09/11/14 07:57 PM
4

Is she also fucking your brains out? Then thank her for the thoughtful gift and continue returning her affection. Is she shutting you out? Ramp up the dread.
/r/TheRedPill09/11/14 07:44 PM
9

Just be a man, and take the lead. If she is shy and nervous, she will follow wherever you want to go.
/r/trpGAME22/10/14 04:59 PM
3

TLDR: desperation is NOT sexy. Red pill as fuck.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/14 04:33 PM
1

Exactly. She cares about SOMETHING. It's almost never that hard to figure out.
/r/trpGAME21/10/14 04:42 PM
2

Stop "negging" and start DISQUALIFYING as the push part of your push-pull. Very few guys can properly "neg" with a playful insult. Most guys lack the calibration or the demeanor. Instead of putting her down, make her qualify herself to you. For example: "oh, it would never work between us..." to a girl you've just met) "... I need a woman with a really high sex drive." Act as if she's eliminated from consideration... Which is what you're really trying to do with the neg... And suddenly, she'll w…
/r/trpGAME21/10/14 04:35 PM
2

I post a lot in AskSeddit. It's still the same damn questions over and over again. I think the moderators in that forum need to sticky a couple of the most commonly asked questions, or even sticky an FAQ thread.
/r/seduction21/10/14 04:05 PM
1

First question in the FAQ.
/r/seduction21/10/14 04:03 PM
6

Here's the link: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/2jpugy/general_date_setup_and_execution_guide_for_newbies/
/r/seduction21/10/14 04:01 PM
8

There was a great post on setting up the date somewhere else. Did you see that?
/r/seduction20/10/14 11:07 PM
4

This should be required sidebar reading for any beginner thinking of posting a question. Nice job.
/r/seduction20/10/14 11:06 PM
1

Excellent post, great summary. Sidebar material right there.
/r/seduction20/10/14 07:57 PM
3

Basically, this. I've been a long time contributor to Seddit and I can tell you that there are many different approaches advocated in that forum. I have always advocated an approach that was in tune with TRP principles, even before I knew that there was such a thing. But there are plenty of Seddit contributors and subscribers who advocate approaches that are completely inconsistent with TRP, misunderstand our principles, and even actively scorn them. It's getting worse over there, not better, be…
/r/trpGAME17/10/14 07:42 PM
1

Compliments should be used sparingly. Even in light of the advice of OP, too many guys are too quick to whip out insincere compliments with transparent motives. Only compliment a woman when she's truly earned it, when she genuinely impresses you with something, and then it won't be forced or awkward.
/r/seduction14/10/14 12:37 PM
45

My pay just went up 64%... and I work from home. Why? Because I asked. I see so much bullshit about guys who can't figure out a way to make the money they could deserve... and then I see a post like this. Fucking awesome. Ballsy, creative solution to your problem, and to top it off, you made you boss look good to four of his friends. It's this kind of thinking that gets a man ahead in life. Too many guys forget that they are really self-employed, no matter who writes their paychecks. You decided…
/r/TheRedPill13/10/14 09:17 PM
2

Recovering slowly indeed. We have here a career woman who makes nearly twice as much as me. You realize this is 98% of your problem, right? She doesn't respect you as a man. You need to take immediate steps to jump-start your career (or at least your income) and continue to work on your SMV in other ways. sex is completely off the table. So she doesn't care about your needs at all. Not one goddam bit. But she's expecting you to fulfill all her needs, right? Terrible. Just terrible. Never get mar…
/r/TheRedPill13/10/14 05:47 PM
97

Engaged after 4 months. Dummy. And per his older post, he knew exactly what he was getting into and refused to do anything about it. Dummy. No sympathy here.
/r/TheRedPill13/10/14 05:41 PM
1

The ad hominem attacks come from people who fear that we are correct, and the truth of what we believe threatens their own worldview and positions in life. If you think about how the red pill shift the power dynamic between men and women, you'll understand why so many women have a vested interest in shaming, silencing, and otherwise marginalizing us. They don't want the other guys to catch on, and the best way for them to do that just divert attention from what we believe about misrepresent what…
/r/TheRedPill10/10/14 04:57 PM
1

The way she looked in most of those photos was a sex crime.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/14 11:33 PM
14

Noticing double standard would force us all to know the truth: most women aren't the kind of people that most guys want to be friends with. Just like most guys aren't the kind of man that most women want to have sex with. We've all seen the numbers elsewhere throughout this sub: a small percentage of the guys are getting the best majority of all the sex. This is because the men that most women truly desire are concentrated in the upper 10 or 20% of all men. By the same token (and I'm not talking…
/r/TheRedPill08/10/14 05:31 PM
2

Just finished reading the book. One of the most interesting parts in my view is the male-female dynamic in the Dunne marriage, how it began, and how it starts to fall apart in ways that any TRP'er would recognize and predict. I can't say more without spoiling it, but both RP and BP themes run heavy throughout the book.
/r/TheRedPill06/10/14 12:23 AM
0

My advice to you, then, is just be yourself. Because that's the only thing you're willing to try anyway, no matter how empty or meaningless that phrase is. Good luck. Come back when you're ready to try what women actually want you to do.
/r/seduction05/10/14 11:11 PM
2

Wrong.
/r/seduction05/10/14 04:55 AM
0

Considering how stupid the average person is… ( http://www.reddit.com/r/QuotesPorn/comments/uivxj/think_about_how_stupid_the_average_person_is/ ) being "natural" is terrible fucking advice. Why are you even here?
/r/seduction05/10/14 04:42 AM
96

"I'm thinking about all the other conquests you've had in this bed." "So how do you think you compare?" "so does that line work on all the other girls?" "Only the memorable ones." Stoke the fires of competition and pre-selection. Don't for a minute downplay the fact that women want you. Not for one fucking minute. I disagree with the top posters. Not for a minute do you want you to hide who you are and what you do. That kind of incongruence will kill you. Instead, you want these women to know th…
/r/seduction04/10/14 09:39 PM
4

I think you need to be more polarizing and aggressive. Also, take advantage of your methodical side and observe what it is (if anything) puts these women into a tizzy of desire. In other words, look at how they act, not what they say. You might find that you're taking the wrong approach. Do they drop their panties for bad-boy alphas despite their liberalism? Try that. Do they react to success? Try that. Remember the words of Nina Burleigh about Bill Clinton: "I would be happy to give him a blowj…
/r/seduction04/10/14 09:19 PM
2

I'm glad you're looking at it from both sides. BTW, check the first link in the sidebar FAQ: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/estpo/frequently_asked_questions/
/r/seduction04/10/14 09:10 PM
3

That last paragraph is what concerns me the most. It gives me the definite impression that you are putting her on a pedestal. Maybe not, but you can see why am I think that. You seem to have a perception that she is better than anything else you could find while "playing the field." You're only twenty no Years old and you've never really played the field that I can tell. That tells me you don't really know what's out there, especially for someone who is still approaching the peak of his powers. …
/r/seduction04/10/14 07:59 PM
0

Yes, imposed on betas by alphas seeking to control their competition.
/r/TheRedPill04/10/14 05:48 PM
7

This seems like a bad idea to me. The reason you're making a move on a longtime friend of yours is because you haven't developed any other options. Just coming out of a 3-year relationship at the age of 20, you need to be playing the field, developing confidence and experience with other women. I'm sure Annie is a lovely girl, but do yourself a favor and don't jump into another relationship right away, assuming your advances are successful. Work on your skills of finding, meeting, and getting wi…
/r/seduction04/10/14 05:07 PM
2

Anyone who's ever used Agree & Amplify to deal with a shit test has used an improv technique. Definitely worthwhile checking out.
/r/seduction04/10/14 05:00 PM
3

Worst of all respect to you for being a man and respecting yourself. Turning away and say no sounds like it was one of the hardest things you've ever done. But, deep down, you knew it need to be done and you didn't even though it was hard. As for the part that says "deep down in your heart you still want her" The reason you feel that way is because you're secretly afraid you'll never be good enough to find a woman like her again. But, you also, in moments that you're truly honest with yourself, …
/r/TheRedPill03/10/14 09:36 PM
1

Unfortunately, that page we get sued out of existence. Impugning a woman's chastity is the raw nerve of slander law. On the other hand, if the site makes a point of proving that The first woman who sues them is, in fact, slut, that would likely deter future lawsuits.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/14 01:21 PM
6

You just have to have no intention of keeping her around for very long. After all, the more cock she's had, the more cocks she'll want after yours.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/14 04:30 PM
1

A creepy hernia.
/r/seduction26/09/14 11:09 PM
2

The Seddit FAQ has advice on this. Start there. http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/estpo/frequently_asked_questions/
/r/seduction25/09/14 01:29 PM
0

I'm gonna read between the lines a little bit here. The way you describe your college, sounds like you have not been able to create a lot of options for yourself. This puts you in a position of scarcity, and this will make you less attractive to women generally, and this one in particular. Your game will be much tighter and your sub communications much stronger if you know that you have plenty of options, and you are approaching from an abundance mentality. That means you need to expand your hor…
/r/seduction25/09/14 01:17 PM
5

Exactly. Other than being hot, I'm not sure what she brings to the table. I also noted that she's 31. Any Wall-theorists recognize the symptoms of that age? Echoing what others have said, you need to try a little more push in your push-pull. I'm a big fan of telling women they "haven't earned it yet" and dealing with LMR by making them sleep on the couch. Seriously though, what has this girl got offer besides her looks? Once you answer that question for yourself, you'll be closer to removing her…
/r/TheRedPill24/09/14 01:54 PM
6

So if a woman puts on makeup and wears a padded bra, where does that fall on the rape spectrum?
/r/TheRedPill23/09/14 04:53 PM
1

At her place, better, if it's a third date or later. Spend early dates interacting.
/r/trpGAME20/09/14 12:46 PM
2

Nice. For those without whistles, just make eye contact and gesture for her to come over.
/r/trpGAME20/09/14 12:11 PM
1

I disagree about movies. It takes away your influence on her emotional state.
/r/trpGAME20/09/14 12:09 PM
3

Yes, these are all shit tests, and it looks like you handled them fine. As to the husband thing, rather than "I don't care" you might've tried "I'm not at all surprised." Because if you want to bang this one, you DO care about her past. Has she been going bareback with drug addicts? Has she been sucking guys off in the park for meth money? Of course you care. But also know she won't tell you the truth about anything you are about.
/r/trpGAME20/09/14 12:08 PM
8

"When I'm 35 I'll still be dating 25-year olds." She'll probably jump on his cock right there.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/14 12:02 PM
1

Welcome, brother, and congrats on dodging that bullet.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/14 11:59 AM
1

Just before you're leaving class, ask her to join you for coffee or lunch. That's it. It's that simple.
/r/trpGAME19/09/14 01:41 PM
1

No response unless you're setting up your next flesh-to-flesh meeting.
/r/trpGAME18/09/14 03:51 PM
6

Remember that in order to get to a ruling of admissibility, you first have to try to admit it. Then the other side has to object, on whatever basis. Then, in order to decide whether or not is admissible, the judge has to listen to the tape. If the judge listens to a tape of her moaning over and over again "oh baby give it to me harder" the first thing he's going to do is look at the prosecutor and ask why the case hasn't already been dismissed. Source: I watch a lot of Judge Judy.
/r/TheRedPill18/09/14 02:45 PM
5

Every time I see a guy talk about being afraid of seeming "creepy" that's a red flag to me. "Creepy" is a mental construct, no more, no less. It's in your head more than anyone else's. If you really break it down, what you fear most is rejection. You feel being socially inappropriate. You fear that the woman won't be attractive enough to you to respond positively, and maybe she'll run around until other people "oh my God, what a creeper this guy is." People touch each other all the time in natur…
/r/seduction17/09/14 12:35 PM
43

"No, I'm glad we stopped waiting."
/r/TheRedPill16/09/14 08:20 PM
2

You should be honest with her about what you really want out of this relationship. It doesn't sound to me like hanging out with the kids is what you want. Nothing else is truly fair to her or to you.
/r/seduction15/09/14 05:37 PM
1

Taste the rainbow.
/r/seduction15/09/14 05:34 PM
1

They had a deal. She wants to change the terms of the deal to something he doesn't want to do. Look at the flipside. What if he met her, and he agreed to be just friends. Then he said to her that he wasn't comfortable having a friendship without sex and started pressuring her to sex. What would you advise her the "humane" thing to do would be? There's nothing robotic about having a relationship on your own terms, especially if those terms of already been agreed to the outset. If, he keeps into h…
/r/seduction15/09/14 05:34 PM
9

I haven't had this problem, but I might go for a full out polarization (as one other poster recommended). Tell them to hand you their phone. Then call yourself on it, so you got their number. Hand it back, and then call them or text them while you're standing right next to them if they resume looking at it. Do you all this is if it's a big joke, laughing the whole time. Otherwise you just look pouty. It definitely does sound that you're either not doing enough to attract them, or they're just ot…
/r/seduction14/09/14 03:15 PM
1

A woman who asked how much money I make has already failed her first test. I would not hesitate to tell her that. I might smile when I say it, but she's just dug yourself in a pretty deep hole it will be nearly impossible to climb out of. The rest of those questions, less so, but they are clearly red flags. They deserve a disapproving response, whether it's of the sarcastic funny variety, or outright expression of disdain.
/r/TheRedPill14/09/14 02:35 PM
0

There is no need to explain. All you have to do is say that he likes the agreement that they had at the outset. If she wants to unilaterally change the terms, he should not stick around.
/r/seduction14/09/14 02:20 PM
1

Sounds like she lied to you about not wanting a relationship. I'd feel used if I were you. She's a single mom with kids who entice you into the beginning of a relationship by holding herself up for sex. Now she's trying to change the terms of the relationship. All you have to say is "I like our agreement the way it is." You don't need to justify or explain yourself, because she was the one who is deceptive. Well maybe she simply change your mind. Either way, you should not feel any guilt about t…
/r/seduction14/09/14 02:19 PM
3

This is a great story. I can tell you're right on the cusp of one of the best times of your life. You're about to start wrecking it left and right. We are only going to be able to find you by the trail of pussy left in your wake. Thanks for the FR.
/r/seduction12/09/14 07:10 PM
4

Sounds to me like the problem was not enough red pill, not too much red pill. What was your goal on posting this Wall of text about an argument you had with your girl? I'm going to be charitable and assume you're asking for input on what you did wrong. There's no point in having to Bates like this. You're knocking to convince her with logic that you're correct, whether you are or not. All you're going to do is show her that something she said got under your skin, instead of you just sitting back…
/r/TheRedPill11/09/14 01:48 PM
3

RP "gospel" is to do what makes you happy, as long as you don't sell your soul to do it. To older women turn you on Innoway the younger women do not? If so, then by all means go for it. I've been with women across a wide variety of ages, and each age has something slightly different offer. But that doesn't mean it's everyone's cup of tea. It doesn't have to be. But if you enjoy it, go ahead and do it, and don't care what other people think.
/r/TheRedPill10/09/14 07:25 PM
2

Properly done, there's a lot of overlap between the two schools of thought. I've been a Long time comments are over at Seddit and I don't see very much conflict at all. The first thing newcomers to Seddit are supposed to learn is to believe in yourself and stop putting the pussy on a pedestal. That's exactly what we teach here. TRP is more of the underlying lifestyle philosophy. Seddit is a set of tools to acquire the desired sexual relationships. Properly understood, both can apply to the kind …
/r/TheRedPill10/09/14 07:18 PM
2

OP can do better. If he landed this girl while putting her on a pedestal (and since she took his virginity, that is almost certainly what happened) imagine how much better he'll do now that he's taking the red pill. I don't recommend taking this girl back right away. OP, you should tell her you need some time to sort things out for yourself. Then go out and actually land some other girls. Spend some time finding out where your current limits really are, so you can push them later. Only after you…
/r/TheRedPill10/09/14 07:05 PM
10

5+6 = 11 if you're doing them both at the same time.
/r/TheRedPill10/09/14 06:58 PM
15

"Don't judge me." Why not? Are you afraid of me having an opinion or afraid that you'll agree with it? Why don't I have the right to judge? And how does it harm you if I do, unless you're already judging yourself? Anyone who says this has already been found wanting.
/r/TheRedPill10/09/14 03:42 PM
41

Maybe England will start giving blowjobs again.
/r/TheRedPill10/09/14 03:35 PM
2

I think the original post is slightly wrong about one point: a good blowjob is far from "unskilled" labor. And I think a market survey of those in the workforce devoted to providing blowjob would probably suggest a slightly higher price point. All that being said, if a woman doesn't truly enjoy sucking my dick (Note how the original post assumes that his girl thinks sucking his dick is a chore) then we're just not sexually compatible.
/r/TheRedPill10/09/14 01:36 PM
4

Logistics are key. You need to have a place of some kind to go to.
/r/seduction09/09/14 12:53 PM
1

Exactly. What OP has just learned in a text and direction should be applied rigorously to all of his interactions with women. If nothing else, just to gauge the results and see whether that works better for him. (I am nearly 100% confident that he will find better results)
/r/seduction09/09/14 11:32 AM
1

You are just now finding out firsthand something that older guys have experience more than once. As you go through new stages in your life, or your friends go through stages nearest, you will grow apart and develop separate interest. Your married friends want to spend time with their spouses, and eventually will find themselves completely wrapped up in their kids. You're not going to go out clubbing with you anymore, or do anything that you even remotely consider fun. Want to go to a two-year-ol…
/r/TheRedPill09/09/14 11:28 AM
2

I really like that last sentence. "Things said out loud lose their power."
/r/TheRedPill09/09/14 11:23 AM
1

Yes, OP made the classic mistake of relying on verbal communication rather than nonverbal communication. In other words, he's making decisions about his girl based on what she says, rather than what she does. Also, he seems like he's trying to lay the groundwork for future activities of his, by obtaining some kind of verbal consent, which may or may not stick. Instead, he needs to judge his girls openness to, for example, a potential threesome by how she acts when the opportunity arises. It is n…
/r/TheRedPill09/09/14 11:21 AM
1

It sounds like that date was failing long before alpha male invited her over to his table. The problem wasn't that there was some other dude hitting on his date, the problem was that he failed to captivate his date's attention, so that she was open to his invitation.
/r/TheRedPill08/09/14 01:55 PM
3

Denying the deed to a woman who clearly wants it isn't respecting her. It might be respecting yourself, but it's definitely not respecting her. He'll figure that out soon enough.
/r/TheRedPill08/09/14 01:48 PM
24

It sounds like you definitely learned how to deal with her. Thanks for the report.
/r/TheRedPill05/09/14 09:27 PM
3

This is probably the most important comment on the thread so far.
/r/trpGAME05/09/14 01:34 PM
1

I guess I should've put a :-) on that.
/r/TheRedPill05/09/14 01:17 PM
2

Why do you only care about having sons? Daughters also carry 50% of your genes. He comes from a lineage of thousands of years, an unbroken chain of men who had sons. Why break that now?
/r/TheRedPill05/09/14 12:51 AM
0

Lots of text-game tips in the FAQ: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/estpo/frequently_asked_questions
/r/seduction04/09/14 08:58 PM
3

If she's not looking for sex, why is she on Tinder? This is just ASD/shit-test. Your response looks like it worked. Go get 'er.
/r/trpGAME04/09/14 07:13 PM
11

It's too bad that he didn't realize he was playing dread game, and the moment he did realize it, he dropped it… because he was afraid of causing her any actual dread.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/14 06:38 PM
1

It sounds like you're coming at this from a very basic level of experience, which is fine, because you're seeking to improve. Throughout your interaction, you should be escalating her attraction to you, using kino, confidence, and flirtatious conversation. These things are simple, but not necessarily easy. As for the physical side, find and read the deCarlo Escalation Ladder. As for conversation, there are many different theories about how to approach that, but most of them will focus on the fac…
/r/seduction04/09/14 06:36 PM
13

Simply disagreeing with people does not win an argument.
/r/seduction03/09/14 07:02 PM
2

It just lets them know that you're not afraid to touch her. That builds attraction.
/r/seduction03/09/14 05:52 PM
10

Jfoutz has the best answer, but if a woman is asking how you make a living, just say you're an investor. This is true if you stashed your compensation even in a minimal interest-bearing account, and few women will ask details. (Also, do learn how to invest your nest egg wisely.) What do you WANT to be? Writer? Consultant? Volunteer? World traveler? Personal trainer for the disabled? Paralympian? Surely you have the time and the freedom, without a 9-to-5 job, to do any number of fulfilling things…
/r/seduction02/09/14 04:35 PM
1

Google "shit-test" and "agree and amplify." If this made you almost cry, you're not ready.
/r/seduction01/09/14 09:48 PM
3

Read the DiCarlo Escalation Ladder.
/r/seduction31/08/14 10:12 PM
2

Yes, all that is true, but a no contest is lost definitely not a "not guilty".
/r/TheRedPill31/08/14 03:36 PM
1

Remove "creepy" from your vocabulary. It's the hallmark of a man who can't master how to DGAF about what other people think. Do what pleases you, not what you think falls within some arbitrary social construct.
/r/seduction31/08/14 02:58 PM
5

He pled "no contest." That means he's chosen, for whatever reason, not to fight it. It ain't because he can't afford a lawyer.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/14 02:23 PM
7

Stop. Fucking. Texting. It's a leash around your neck. Instant validation that the moment any old bullshit pops into her head, she can thrust it in front of you and demand your response. Why would you enslave yourself like this? "This is a conversation to have in person." Learn it, live it, love it.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/14 02:21 PM
5

If they are throwing their panties at you while calling you an asshole, THEN you're doing it right.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/14 02:16 PM
3

I definitely wasn't talking about apologizing to the woman. Not sure how you read that into what I wrote.
/r/TheRedPill29/08/14 06:04 PM
11

There was a post the other day, I think it was in here, from a guy who lost his wife of several years, mother of their three children, to some other guy. He quickly came to the realization that he had gotten the best of her, and this new guy was getting the remainder. The new guy was getting a 40-something single mom with three kids well he gotten her in her prime, and was now free to pursue other interests. He actually felt sorry for the guy, and was made enough to go introduce himself in a civ…
/r/TheRedPill29/08/14 06:00 PM
4

More in the way of condolence that apology, of course. Or perhaps a softening the blow style of informing him of what's really going on.
/r/TheRedPill29/08/14 05:56 PM
12

Never once do I see a comment in there: "Sorry about all the dicks your wife's about to take."
/r/TheRedPill29/08/14 04:37 PM
20

The real red flag is the lying about it. When she claimed the texts were for her sister, and then later admitted that wasn't true, that put a pretty heavy thumb on the scale in favor of "she fucked at least one of those guys". I'd say it's 70/30 in favor of her having cheated, especially given all of the background circumstances (move to a new town, hates her job, misses her friends). Good news is that he hasn't married this woman yet.
/r/TheRedPill20/08/14 12:04 PM
6

If you really need advice today, it's to have spent the last three months reading up and practicing. It's also hard to give you advice since we don't know where you stand. You're about to enter one of the best environments in the world for meeting bedding women if you just do it right. (if only I had known about this stuff when I started college!). We're all a little bit jealous but excited for you.
/r/seduction17/08/14 01:23 PM
174

This sounds like very satisfying fiction.
/r/TheRedPill17/08/14 01:20 PM
7

She's playing push-pull with you. She needs to know you have other options—possibly by you having a make out session with some other girl when she's nearby.
/r/trpGAME15/08/14 11:33 PM
2

"Her argument was that only through the reduction of the male population to between 1 and 10 percent of their current number we can approach “true equality”. " So 1 man is worth 9 women? Sounds about right. This chick is a total attention whore, though.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/14 01:08 PM
2

Should be retitled: "36 practical tips for women who want pets rather than partners" I couldn't stomach reading past the first five or six of these. Can you imagine the eunuch who would actually live his life this way?
/r/TheRedPill15/08/14 12:15 PM
1

I personally like pussy too much to MGTOW. but I certainly understand the appeal of being liberated for a while, especially when you're only relationship was such a toxic one. For now, this is a perfectly proper and appropriate strategy for him to pursue. It may end up being permanent. Or it may simply be a phase of his life that allows him to take his next interactions with women, be there you're from now or 10 years from now, with a bit more perspective.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/14 08:11 PM
-4

Not much of a texter? Good news, that means you get to call.
/r/trpGAME02/08/14 04:57 PM
0

If you think that's financial advice, you don't understand what I'm sayng.
/r/trpGAME02/08/14 01:31 PM
2

I like the way you addressed the guy to girl ratio. Nice job on that. Be careful about some of the rest, though. Grabbing some girls hand and following her could get you some deeper trouble than you want.
/r/seduction01/08/14 10:06 PM
19

Actually, it's simple. He just needs to say he's dropping out of his MBA program to become an elementary school teacher. When she sees the $'s going away, so will she.
/r/TheRedPill01/08/14 09:43 PM
5

Tell her it's because the sex wasn't hot enough.
/r/TheRedPill01/08/14 09:38 PM
-1

So you're on the way up, she's on the way down, and you want to step into a downward elevator with her? If that's your dating situation, then it really doesn't matter what you do. You've got a bargain bin mentality and that will be impossible to hide.
/r/trpGAME01/08/14 04:42 PM
3

I don't agree with any of this, except that you should definitely talk to anyone you find interesting. Here's the thing. Once you leave high school, people stop thinking about it. If everyone's going to college, they've all change, they've all grown up, and they all are totally different people. Think of this as a completely fresh start with people you never met, except you likely know their names. You can walk up to any person in the room and strike up a conversation with confidence, because no…
/r/seduction25/07/14 06:22 PM
1

If the LA Times agrees with me, then I'm having second thoughts about it. No, just kidding. Agree and amplify is where it's at. I love that shit.
/r/trpGAME25/07/14 03:48 PM
-11

"Show me how creative and enthusiastic you can be when you make it up."
/r/seduction25/07/14 03:44 PM
2

Try this and see what happens: "you bored? Let's go do something exciting."
/r/seduction25/07/14 12:30 AM
6

Being fearless is critical to pick up. Not only is it more attractive, it helps you develop more opportunities than you would if you're cowering in the corner. What this story demonstrates, is that there's nothing to be afraid of in the first place. Fearlessness should be your natural state during pick up. Because really, who gives a shit what a stranger things unless she's thinking about boning you?
/r/seduction24/07/14 08:02 PM
1

This is a really great insight. I'm a little music came from ancestry.com, but it's still an important insight nonetheless. All too many of our societal norms come from this idea of men dating women close to their age. In reality, that is a recent historical collaboration, rather than the norm.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/14 08:27 PM
28

Every single one did not see any problem with a wife making her husband incel if her drive changed. How many had a problem with her husband making her poor if his work ethic changed? Yeah, that's what I thought.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/14 12:41 AM
1

http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/e645m/text_game_how_to_improve/
/r/trpGAME18/07/14 09:31 PM
5

I was surprised and impressed by most of the comments. Yes, this was kind of a dick move to go silent on her, and it was clearly an act of desperation, but it was also obviously not the start of the conversation. He's clearly been trying to convey to her for some time that he was unhappy, to the point where he eventually started making a spreadsheet I don't think day one of the spreadsheet was day one of the problem. Here's one interesting thing I observed, though. She's the one hitting the gym …
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 06:11 PM
10

Only if they have debt. If they have no debt, they recognize it as a sign of your compatibility. If they have a lot of debt, they understand immediately that you don't intend to pay it off for them. It's not the question that makes them angry, it's your unwillingness to be their cash cow.
/r/TheRedPill17/07/14 11:27 AM
2

When a woman suggests that she needs to open a relationship because she's missing out on "life experiences" it's because her man isn't giving her the experiences she needs.
/r/TheRedPill17/07/14 11:23 AM
2

Proof that not all thoughts should be catalogued Matt Powers a poor writer. He fails to clearly express himself, and a few thoughts that he claims to have are confused, muddled, and mostly wrong. Both posts are drivel. At least the first one shows a glimmer of real-world understanding. The second one was completely unreadable. I crashed out after the first paragraph.
/r/TheRedPill17/07/14 11:06 AM
2

Great point. Texting is an instant validation machine for girls like that. Best way to respond? Either put your damn phone down for a few hours or keep it on night mode. If you're busy doing really cool shit, you don't have time to instantly respond to texts. Avoid time-whores.
/r/seduction15/07/14 09:57 PM
1

Possible, yes. Advisable, maybe not. But here's the thing: in sales, even in car sales, you want to build relationships with people who walk on to your lot, no matter who they are. And just because a relationship starts out as a sales relationship, does not mean that it can't evolve later. This is especially true after the potential customer has bought a car, whether from you or someone else. And the truth of the matter is, that you will only want to convert that relationship where there is a hi…
/r/trpGAME14/07/14 01:46 PM
1

This idea really doesn't fit in with TRP at all. If you only want to fuck fit girls, you have plenty of options, and plenty of places to look. But keep in mind that fat is an indicator of suitability in a partner. It reflects a lack of control and discipline, or some kind of medical or genetic metabolic condition. The fat shaming affects only the former, and only as long as pressure is continuously applied. So fat shaming only encourages those girls to conceal who they really are, and it's that …
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 12:14 PM
5

It sounds like a brother in arms just dodged a bullet. Interesting that she's most upset not about what specific views he may or may not agree with, but the fact that he's "one of them".
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 08:43 PM
1

Read the first two paragraphs and you will understand exactly where the relationship went wrong.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 04:30 PM
2

After he works hard all day to pay the bills, and comes home and all he wants is a little loving, it would be very petty for her to want to divorce him for seeking a little bit on the side. After all, she married him for better or for worse.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 04:03 PM
2

He doesn't care either, because he must be getting it someplace else. There's no other explanation for him tolerating three years of this.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 03:11 PM
2

This is really a great series of observations. You take seduction out of the clubs and coffee houses and move it onto your "home turf"—a place that not only allows you to demonstrate value, but also a place to captivate her senses. Every once in a while, someone mentions "cook a meal together" as a great date idea, but you're really made this idea yours.
/r/seduction29/06/14 09:51 PM
6

Because any shift of power from women to men is threatening to women. No matter whether you think the balance is just right, or tilted to one side or the other, motion in either direction threatens the party against whom is moving. The cries of "misogynist" and all the other hate speech used by detractors of this thread and subscribers are simply the most effective weapon they can use to fight back against that powershift. They have found the best way to suppress knowledge is to denigrate it.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/14 08:23 PM
1

I'm enthusiastic about this analysis.
/r/seduction25/06/14 09:50 PM
3

Best answer in the thread. But first, become the kind of guy you'd want to hire.
/r/TheRedPill25/06/14 02:11 PM
1

Honestly, they might be assuming the equipment doesn't work. In a wheelchair, you will attract attention, but you'll have to really make it part of your game. Think of that guy who's a single-leg amputee—I think his name is Josh Lundquist. He's way out front about his missing leg but he's got a great, upbeat, positive attitude that infects everything he does. So get upbeat and out there, and most importantly, get sexual in a way that's positive but absolutely lets girls know it's on. "the hardes…
/r/seduction25/06/14 12:40 PM
3

"Over the summer, I earned college credit in D-bag management."
/r/seduction23/06/14 04:51 PM
11

The other thing to remember, is that the reason this guy act like this is because there's something broken about him. You're letting him get under your skin, as if there was something wrong with you. There's not. There is something deeply, badly, wrong with him, and the more you keep that in mind the easier you will find it to deal with him. If anything, you should feel sorry for him. There are two approaches to take with somebody like this. Either honestly come at them from a higher level, in t…
/r/seduction23/06/14 02:31 PM
3

"why, are you cruising for a piece of ass?"
/r/seduction23/06/14 02:24 PM
5

It's only awkward if you make it awkward. I prefer phone calls to texting, because tone of voice is an important nonverbal communication channel the kids completely lost in text. I'm reminded of the comedian, whose name I cannot remember, who demonstrated several different meanings of the word "dude" just by changing his tone of voice inflection. (doing a quick Google search, I see a bit from Rob Schneider, but I'm not sure if that's the one I remembered)
/r/seduction23/06/14 12:32 PM
2

True RP doesn't apologize so much. Otherwise, it sounds like you're doing very well for yourself and have a very bright future ahead of you.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 09:30 PM
55

She lied to you about her agreement to never marry or live together. Otherwise, why would it matter what apartment you chose? She is just now realizing that you truthfully intends to never marry her and truthfully intended never live with her. Or, she still has secret plans that you will live together, despite your prior agreement, and doesn't like the apartment you've chosen. In other words, this step has exposed her deception. Time to trade her in for a new model if she doesn't step back in li…
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 09:21 PM
1

Day Bang not only covers what to say, but why and how. It's an excellent starting point.
/r/trpGAME20/06/14 09:15 PM
2

Anything. Anything at all. What matters most is not what you say, but how you say it.
/r/trpGAME20/06/14 11:51 AM
1

This was a long time ago, before I knew any better.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 11:49 AM
1

Plenty of "handsome" men lack the game to do any better. Frankly, that was me in college, banging fat chick after fat chick because I lacked the game to do any better except by accident.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 03:03 AM
10

"check your DMs by the way" I nearly did a spit-take with my scotch.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 02:42 AM
6

"Hi."
/r/trpGAME19/06/14 05:15 AM
1

This is another way of correctly describing outcome independence.
/r/seduction13/06/14 04:08 PM
2

From another one of your posts about this girl: I am an 18 year old virgin never kissed a girl etc I know everyone is thinking blue pill bitch, but I don't know if in the near future I will get any girls. And THAT is exactly your problem. Dude, you're 18. You've got your whole life ahead of you, and hundreds, probably thousands, of girls you'll meet along the way. You WILL get girls. You WILL get better. You WILL mature and develop as a man. When you're 18, everything feels like it lasts forever…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 02:56 AM
1

"I want a woman who doesn't ask questions when she already knows the answers."
/r/TheRedPill24/05/14 01:49 AM
1

Congratulations and welcome to a whole new world.
/r/seduction26/04/14 04:55 PM
1

I can name one thing that this woman will never, ever get.
/r/TheRedPill26/04/14 04:48 PM
2

I've also noticed I've started seeing beauty in women that other men don't recognize. Most so-called 9's and 10's are insufferable, narcissistic princesses. Women with more physical imperfections tends to have personality traits that more than compensate for those perceived flaws.
/r/TheRedPill21/04/14 01:04 PM
6

First of all, game works at any age. You probably do have to make some adjustments, but the basic principles will still apply. Focusing on day game is probably not a bad idea. At least, avoiding the club scene is probably a better idea. However, don't overlook possibilities of social circle game, because at your age, you probably have at least the ability to develop a extensive social networks filled with women who are potentially datable. Remember that the older you get, the further down you ca…
/r/seduction20/04/14 04:26 PM
-5

One thing to extrapolate from this data, is that looks for men really don't matter all that much in the real world. They can't, because even those average guys, perceived as ugly by so many women, are still managing to hook up. Maybe not as frequently, but ultimately, there's a list for every pot. What this tells me is that guys with average looks have to use something other than it looks to get laid. And that's what is working. In other words, Game is king.
/r/TheRedPill20/04/14 04:14 PM
2

The only thing this post doesn't address is money. Stop applying for jobs. You don't need anyone else's permission to make money. There are a ton of free resources online where you can learn valuable skills and also how to market those skills online, whether as a contractor (programmer? Writer? Researcher?) or running your own business. Your life story, for example, suggests you might be able to sell some info products about how you quit drugs and got clean. Get to the library and read a bunch o…
/r/TheRedPill20/04/14 11:40 AM
3

Don't you have better options to spend your time on?
/r/seduction19/04/14 12:33 AM
1

Confidence is like a muscle. Start by lifting small weights, then move on to bigger weights as you develop that muscle. What kind of small weights? Start by doing something you are almost confident you can do. Say hi to a waitress or a girl in the checkout line. Move up to sustain conversations with people like that. Approach a random person on the street and have a two minute conversation. Get a phone number at a networking event. You may not always exceed, but the act of trying will develop th…
/r/seduction18/04/14 11:28 PM
2

In the not-too-distant future, having a Facebook account maybe a disqualifying event as opposed to having a Facebook account. I own my own business, and if I were going to hire someone, I would expect her Facebook account to be locked down and private, not open to employers or the general public. The less I can find about them, the more discreet I know they will be, and the less trouble they will get into by doing stupid things online. I also know they won't waste their workday by surfing around…
/r/seduction18/04/14 11:20 PM
2

I think it's a mistake to compare yourself to other guys, because the environments, cities, and men themselves are all very different. The most important thing, is whether not you or doing better than you were before you started, and each let you go out are you doing a little bit better than you were the last. Right now you're focusing on results. That's probably a mistake. You should focus on process instead: is your inner game more solid than it was last week? Is your body language better? Are…
/r/seduction18/04/14 11:16 PM
2

Imagine a girl who put her large bra size in her profile. Would you think that would do to her response rates?
/r/seduction18/04/14 10:29 PM
2

How many other women are you dating or have the potential to date? The higher that number is, the lower your jealousy factor will be, because you won't be afraid of losing any one particular woman.
/r/seduction18/04/14 09:39 PM
17

OP has boundaries based on experience. Your experience may differ, but he doesn't feel comfortable going there, and that's just fine. The focus of his post, was that he was the object of some woman's desire, some woman he'd never met and one who approached him on the street. That's a pretty cool feeling. I remember times, back when I was embarrassingly clueless, Where that happened to me and it made me feel awesome. (I look back now and smacked my forehead at the missed opportunities.) Congrats …
/r/seduction18/04/14 09:37 PM
21

She's not wearing black; it's just that no light can escape her gravitational field.
/r/TheRedPill18/04/14 06:16 PM
1

Oh, so many things I would do differently. I missed so much opportunity in high school and even college because I was clueless.
/r/TheRedPill18/04/14 06:11 PM
4

This is really excellent advice on how to handle the court system. OP kept his eye on the long game, kept solid frame, and was willing to suffer short-term setbacks as the price of winning the ultimate battle. Family law cases—divorce, custody, alimony—often turn into disaster because the parties let their emotions push them off the rails. Understandably, because it's an emotional process. But those that survive are the ones who keep a level head and controls their emotions instead of the other …
/r/TheRedPill18/04/14 06:00 PM
2

In addition to the supportive comments already on this thread, something else you might want to think about is trying to get yourself a wingman and mentor. If you have someone by your side who is able to help you break the ice in social situations, and serve as a model for you to emulate, you might find yourself gradually improving those things you will need to improve in order to have any results at all. Once you find yourself incrementally improving, that will be a self reinforcing cycle. Once…
/r/seduction17/04/14 02:52 PM
19

It's the ultimate shit test from reddit itself. Fortunately, we're all passing with flying colors.
/r/TheRedPill16/04/14 12:30 PM
6

You've linked to a parody post, right?
/r/TheRedPill16/04/14 03:55 AM
9

"So do all my girlfriends."
/r/seduction14/04/14 04:09 AM
1

"That's why you'll argue all night" I think this was your BEST line, because it showed that you were able to see right through her bullshit. And best of all, she knew it. Which is why she shaved.
/r/TheRedPill12/04/14 08:29 PM
27

Reminds me of the time I met this 24-year-old professional hottie in a bar, took her home, and mentored her brains out.
/r/TheRedPill04/04/14 04:53 PM
1

Impressive self-control. Nice result.
/r/TheRedPill02/04/14 09:53 PM
18

"Skinny girls aren't that tempting..." Now here we have a woman who apparently has never met any actual men.
/r/TheRedPill31/03/14 09:34 PM
2

Much younger sister, that is.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/14 12:04 AM
1

This is a great explanation of an abundance frame of mind. Thanks for the post.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/14 08:58 PM
2

You're simply describing Social Circle Game. Roosh wrote about this in 2011, and I stopped searching after about 30 seconds.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/14 08:26 PM
3

Remember that the D is for demonstrate: show, don't tell.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/14 11:48 AM
8

Of course she knows what she's doing. The insulting part is that she thinks OP is not smart enough to see what she's doing.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/14 11:08 AM
1

So your dating pool is limited to one person?
/r/seduction24/03/14 09:46 PM
1

No, I understood that. But why did your girlfriends think that was important? Probably because they know that her friends are telling her exactly the same thing.
/r/seduction24/03/14 09:45 PM
1

I'm going to give you one tip, that once you start seeing progress there, me starts leaking over into the other parts of your life that you might want to improve as well. For your body language and your physical confidence, there are a few things that are going to improve that area as much as developing skill in a sport. Most athletic endeavors require you to develop body control and a deeper understanding of your body and how you use it. As you develop more control and awareness over your physi…
/r/seduction24/03/14 07:11 PM
3

RSD Tyler has done a couple videos about "social momentum" and how that can affect your state positively or negatively. I find this works very well in field. The specific technique, is to just simply start talking to people with no outcome expectation, in rapid sequence. These small interactions build up, and then you find yourself with momentum going into the next interaction. Dave Wygant also talks about this. He recommends getting the habit of talking to everyone, even men and women you're no…
/r/seduction24/03/14 07:06 PM
1

Sometimes the obvious solution is the correct solution. Have an upvote.
/r/seduction24/03/14 06:19 PM
1

Knowing the techniques without knowing the mindset behind the techniques is equally useless. In fact, much of the time, the mindset IS the technique. Now I come in the past, have been delighted to give advice on specific techniques, like incorporating text game, how to set up interactions and face-to-face meetings with women, logistics, and so on. But those are intermediate or higher questions. For most man who arrived here for the first time, they need to know first and foremost that the scarci…
/r/seduction24/03/14 06:17 PM
2

I'm a little confused about what you think the problem is. At first, you seem to say that you're doubting yourself. Then, as you describe your problem in more depth, it seems the real issue is you doubt your attraction to the women that you were meeting. This could simply be a case of having high standards, or having very specific tastes, and then later when you end up not finding anyone to meet your needs, retrospectively lower your standards. Or perhaps the "lack of attraction" is a mask for t…
/r/seduction24/03/14 05:52 PM
2

I'm not saying it all guys who date, supplicate. However, it does seem to be a much more slippery slope. And frankly, your story sends off small alarm bells. This girl who seemed to really like you, your company alone was enough for her. She had a preconceived notion and a preconceived expectations that she demanded you meet. She expect you to fall into the "date" mold and expected you to take her to a "nice restaurant". I wonder how much of that was actually not even for her benefit, but for he…
/r/seduction24/03/14 05:47 PM
1

The first thing you should do is analyze why your situation doesn't leave you any options to date women outside of work. Then you should bolster your social proof, abundance mentality, and preselection my having a number of women outside the workplace who are potential partners for you. As your coworker observed in you the confidence that comes from not meeting her, and the "Voucher effect" that comes from seeing other women desire you, you will find that she will be more and more interested in …
/r/seduction24/03/14 05:39 PM
2

If you were truly operating from an abundance mentality, this shouldn't matter. In fact, if you are operating from an abundance reality, you'll have multiple girlfriends of your own that you can incorporate into your verbal response. The most important thing, is that abundance will allow you to be outcome independence, and that will allow you to plow through this, if it is a mere shit test. But if it is not the mirror test, and she is really just qualifying you due to her own fidelity, that you …
/r/seduction24/03/14 05:25 PM
4

I hate the idea of a "date" for entirely different. The classic model of a "dates" is one rooted in supplication and pedestal-placing. You can invite a girl the "hang out" and still make your intentions known through escalation when she arrives at the activity. But the old model of "date" suggest dinner, a movie, maybe some flowers, and then going home alone. But a girl who comes over your house to "hang out" will know exactly what's up within minutes arrival, because you will handle the interac…
/r/seduction24/03/14 05:20 PM
-1

They don't want to be understood for what they truly are. The moment we understand them, it takes away their advantage. They want someone who understands them the way they wants to be perceived. This is an entirely different matter. They want us to perceive them to not be sluts, even as they ride the cock carousel. They want us to perceive them as pedestal-worthy even as the branch swing from mates to mate. It's all about the perception.
/r/seduction24/03/14 05:16 PM
9

We just want someone to pick us up from our house , tell us we are beautiful , have a dance and take a picture . We just want to feel special. A guy who does this for a girl as a "friend" is either lying about his intentions or just going to scope out the other guys. And truth is, there are probably a lot of bottom-feeding betas who would do all those things for her. She will just refuse to be seen with guys like that.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/14 02:42 PM
2

Me: Hey! I'm going to the ice rink tomorrow night to sharpen my skates. I'm going to break them in at public skate. You should join me. She replied with: "Yes! That sounds like a lot of fun!" Stuck the landing. Nice job.
/r/seduction20/03/14 02:05 AM
2

I agree. Well settled persuasion techniques emphasized primacy (what goes first), repetition, and recency (what goes last). Psychologically, we remember those things are closest to the beginning or the end of interaction, anything that is repeated with frequency during interaction. So and being on a high note is always a good idea, and as the OP pointed out should reduce flaking. I would add, however, that the principles of primacy recency repetition suggest that you should not only kiss at the …
/r/seduction19/03/14 04:10 PM
4

25 Things Fish Wishe Fishermen Knew: The Secret of What Fish Want A primer on how to return to shore empty-handed but ecologically responsible.
/r/TheRedPill19/03/14 11:10 AM
1

NAWALT.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/14 05:44 AM
7

This is also the proper remedy for just about every case of oneitis. It's really all about the fear.
/r/seduction27/02/14 06:36 PM
1

Spot on.
/r/seduction19/02/14 01:54 PM
3

This comment is neither helpful nor accurate.
/r/seduction19/02/14 01:53 PM
1

You treat me right and respect me. Your like the perfect guy and ticked of all my expectations I have for guys. But its when I kiss you I feel asif I'm kissing my best friend or a close family member. You didn't turn her on. She's not looking for a nice guy but a bad boy. What you described as "all over" each other, she thought was like kissing her brother. There's an obvious disconnect in your perceptions vs. hers.
/r/seduction19/02/14 01:52 PM
0

I detect a pedestal underneath that pussy.
/r/seduction15/02/14 06:08 PM
1

My opinion is that you're not approaching those girls and proving them wrong. Why are you posting this instead of doing that?
/r/seduction15/02/14 06:06 PM
7

More details would help, but there are a few ways to handle this. One, freeze him out. If you're solid with the girl you're talking to, and dont let yourself get distracted or thrown off, then you'll be fine. This is most difficult for beginners who have less confidence. Second, "push" him at the girl and have her reject him. "Oh, this must be your boyfriend!" Her, laighing "No! I've never met him before!" He'll slink away when she demonstrates a lack of interest. Second hardest for beginners. T…
/r/seduction15/02/14 06:04 PM
1

It's more than mere input-output calculation, it's a whole philosophy of emotional generosity: when you are giving off that energy, and having that much fun, and not looking for anything else… This is a guy who apparently can't help but slop positive vibes all over everyone he sees, like a Great Dane slobbering all over the furniture. I know from my own personal experience that this works—not just with meeting women, but in life: in social settings, business settings, anything you might be doing…
/r/seduction07/02/14 05:50 PM
2

lack of abundance This. A million times this. 99% of gaming failure can be traced to this.
/r/seduction26/01/14 08:31 PM
2

Don't apologize—he shoved you, so you didn't do anything wrong, right? But do take a shot at getting her out with you, free of distractions. Worst thing that can happen is nothing. FYI, I hope you've taken the chance to read up on how to diffuse cockblock interference. Off the top of my head: turn to her and say "Oh, this is the guy who was the crush on you?" Watch both of them scramble. "We're just friends!" She'll say. That should bust up his night. (Maybe even go bolder: "Oh, this is the guy …
/r/seduction26/01/14 08:29 PM
2

High school seduction is a somewhat different animal because of those dynamics you're pointing out. Try /r/highseddit
/r/seduction17/01/14 05:04 PM
1

This is solid advice. Give her something (or several somethings) she can react to: "You look like a Jersey girl. My friend used to date a Jersey girl, and I always thought they were high maintenance, but this girl was really laid back." There are maybe a dozen different ways she could respond to this, all of which bridge to the next topic of conversation. Very similar to cold reading.
/r/seduction17/01/14 04:54 PM
1

Don't ask girls on dates. Go do something fun and awesome, and tell her she's welcome to come along. And if she doesn't, then proceed down the rest of your options (you've got several, right?) until one accepts.
/r/seduction17/01/14 04:49 PM
2

Stop acting like you got some kind of shameful secret to hide. Her delusions are not your responsibility, unless you've done something, deliberately or negligently, to create those delusions. The absolute best way to cure this, is to cultivate potential with a number of other girls, some of whom you will take out in front of your friends, and some of whom you will not. But once again, her delusions are not your responsibility, and you should not act as if you're afraid for people to find out tha…
/r/TheRedPill15/01/14 01:16 AM
3

Maybe you should do what's right for you and stop worrying so much about other people's opinions. Your true friends will stick by you, and the false ones reveal themselves.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/14 12:34 AM
0

"Well, honey, my friend Bob's girlfriend does ass to mouth. That's what girlfriends are supposed to do."
/r/TheRedPill14/01/14 11:18 PM
1

Exactly. And it apparently has a high correspondence with your success rate.
/r/seduction14/01/14 04:10 PM
1

Have you heard thevphrase "outcome independence?" How do you think it might relate here?
/r/seduction14/01/14 05:06 AM
6

Bend at the knees, not the back.
/r/seduction14/01/14 04:50 AM
1

An elegant restatement of the principle. Sidebar material.
/r/seduction13/01/14 01:32 PM
1

Solid post.
/r/seduction12/01/14 02:13 AM
5

I have friends with security clearances who don't FB at all. Winners, not losers, limit or eliminate FB altogether.
/r/seduction12/01/14 02:11 AM
2

This. So much win here.
/r/seduction12/01/14 02:10 AM
2

Also, house parties nearly always imply some common connection. Your opener can simply be an effort to find that context: "So you know Bob?" And then start plowing with statements that might elicit a response: "he had this one crazy party where fourteen people had an orgy in his bed and didn't even invite him. Were you at that party?"
/r/seduction12/01/14 02:09 AM
21

That was such a disgusting thread. Good on you for throwing him a life preserver. Let's see if he takes it.
/r/TheRedPill12/01/14 01:28 AM
2

Just read your last update. Sorry, man, but you should give her 24 hours tonget her shit out and give the ring back. She never loved you.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/14 01:18 PM
1

That girl you knew in high school who kept her "virginity pledge" by only doing anal. It'll polarize the crowd, but you'll screen out the prudes really fast.
/r/seduction09/01/14 02:04 AM
3

Congrats, young one. You're taking baby steps... Soon you'll be running swiftly.
/r/seduction09/01/14 01:16 AM
5

I'm 90% sure the /s tag is for sarcasm. Edit: Just checked comment history. Sarcasm confirmed.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 11:12 PM
1

There's an old saying, "there's only one way to console a grieving widow" but I don't think that's what you're looking for here. If this happens in the course of a regular seduction or pick up, and is just a tangent she goes on, I would do everything I could to avoid dwelling on it. If you find yourself frequently selecting potential companions who frequently have this problem, I would look to fish in other waters. How is just coming up more than once in a while?
/r/seduction27/12/13 10:41 PM
11

This guy's number-one problem is he's writing novels via text. He mostly just needs to shut the fuck up: Her : How's home? :) Him : good. Her : Feels weird not talking to someone your 'exclusive' with, just reminds me that this is just sex to you and I don't think I can do that. Him : ok. Don't feed the hamsters.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/13 02:00 PM
1

http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1m9ah6/losing_it_how_to_get_laid_when_youre_still_a/
/r/seduction09/12/13 04:49 PM
1

It sounds like you took a lot of good lessons of this interaction. Hopefully you can move it to the next step when you get a chance again.
/r/seduction09/12/13 04:48 PM
1

Have you ever had a conversation that was so interesting, so compelling, that you hated forbid to end? Tell me about that.
/r/seduction09/12/13 04:38 PM
1

Unless there was a genuine emergency, like maybe she was in a car crash, then don't waste your time any further. She has no respect for you.
/r/seduction09/12/13 04:08 PM
2

You don't have to be smart to do these things. You just need to build the right habits. Once you do that, habit takes over and you don't need to think about it. What specific things are you trying to do that you find yourself not smart enough to accomplish?
/r/seduction09/12/13 03:51 PM
1

"Hey, don't touch the merchandise!" "You haven't earned that yet."
/r/seduction04/12/13 05:10 AM
1

If you're going to do a dinner date with someone you haven't slept with yet, you need to make it a high-energy, interactive dinner date. Cook dinner together, either her place or yours. Go someplace where there's audience participation. Even a buffet style dinner, where you have to get up and walk around to get your food, would allow you to walk together and give you opportunities for contact. If nothing else, pick someplace where you can sit next to her or at least on the corner with her. Befor…
/r/seduction02/12/13 12:30 PM
1

"You'll be there, unless you want to miss a great time."
/r/seduction02/12/13 12:23 PM
2

Exactly. There are many reasons to avoid movie dates. If you're locked into the movie plan (and you don't really have to be, if something better comes up you can always call her up and say... Change of plans! I scored tickets to an awesome concert...) then make sure to build in an after-movie sequence to the date that allows for convo and kino.
/r/seduction01/12/13 09:53 PM
2

The lion doesn't seek input from the gazelle.
/r/TheRedPill30/11/13 03:44 PM
-1

It depends on if you're fishing catch and release, or fishing for your next meal.
/r/TheRedPill29/11/13 06:32 PM
5

I'm always less interested in making her know my interest in her, than I am in creating a state of her wanting me. Once she wants me, then all I have to do is keep the interaction going and get the close.
/r/seduction29/11/13 01:27 PM
26

A fisherman never asks the trout for tips on fishing technique.
/r/TheRedPill29/11/13 01:09 PM
3

Because it threatens their own world view, one they depend on others believing.
/r/TheRedPill25/11/13 07:08 PM
1

No doubt in my mind, that this woman is lying to herself about not wanting kids with him. No doubt at all.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/13 07:16 PM
11

Tackle that ugly feeling you get when you’re mad at your friend because she is just trying to get hers with nothing but triumph; opt to come out on top—better, stronger, faster, leaner, meaner, unstoppable, unrestrained to being upset over one case of pussy. This part surprised me, coming from someone who could write the rest of that oblivious drivel.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/13 01:03 PM
1

At this moment I have several different girls telling me shit like "I love you", "I care about you", "I wish you were here right now, I'd fuck the shit out of you" - this one didnt let me fuck her when we were alone for a whole night in an apartament, "I want to be together with you once you come here, we dont have to be exclusive", "You are so perfect", "You are the full package" etc... If a girl tells you she'd fuck you only when there's an absolute barrier to doing it, it means she's not tell…
/r/seduction15/11/13 06:34 PM
1

Just what he said. Before class or after class stand where she can see you, get her attention, and simply say "come here for a second," with a calm, confident beckoning motion. 9 times of 10, curiosity alone, combined with the confidence of your approach, will get her out of the circle where you can privately say that you wanted to talk to her quickly without dealing with her friends.
/r/seduction04/11/13 02:57 PM
1

Generally, you can be more direct with your intentions, although older women tend to be sophisticated enough to read signals louder, so you don't need to be explicit. I favor the opinion approach: "I'm looking for a female opinion on this. What do you think of women who date slightly younger men?" Say it with confidence a big grin. She'll know what you're asking. She's either DTF or she's not, and she'll definitely let you know.
/r/seduction04/11/13 02:45 PM
3

Shit test. Agree & amplify. Tap the guy next to you on he shoulder and tell him he's got to be your best man because this girl is marrying you RIGHT NOW. Then take her on a "honeymoon" and tell her the marriage isn't valid until its consummated. Great way to escalate quickly and still blast through her shit test.
/r/seduction02/11/13 04:24 PM
3

Instead of gifting her with more straws, just take one of hers since she has more than she needs. (If you we're going to open her).
/r/seduction02/11/13 04:21 PM
1

Might not. True. There will be some percentage that won't be interested. But you need to identify the ones who aren't interested son you can filter them out and spend time with the ones who are. Just think of it an an intelligence-gathering mission. Identify Jon-targets and targets. There is no rejection, just filtering. Edit: in fact, being really direct is a good approach. Go up and ask them for a female opinion on women who date younger men. If they're DTF, you'll know. If they're not into it…
/r/seduction02/11/13 04:14 PM
1

Confidence is a muscle. The more you use it, the stronger it gets. Congrats on pushing your envelope.
/r/seduction02/11/13 04:11 PM
2

Of course the girl knows you just want to get her back to your house. Through social contract, you both agree to PRETEND that's not the case, but if she doesn't know—and WANT—that you're going to invite her in for a bang. Obviously, if you've got her gina tingling, she's hoping you'll invite her back. If you don't then you've got to put some work in to make her want you. The idea that your intentions should remain secret is the hallmark of a beta who's afraid of rejection. You're not that guy, r…
/r/seduction02/11/13 04:02 PM
0

Happiness is a cause, not an effect.
/r/seduction26/10/13 09:20 PM
2

The only logistical mistake you made was taking to replace with your TVs on. I fucking hate TVs in restaurants. Unless I'm watching sports at a sports bar, I don't want to see a TV online trying to enjoy a meal or talk to a woman. A place that has TVs on, again unless it's a sports bar, is a sign that they can't keep their clientele entertained without having some form of outside their tent. A sure sign of a lame place. Otherwise, these are her issues, and seemingly you recovered well, because s…
/r/seduction26/10/13 09:15 PM
13

Everybody go watch this video. Just do it.
/r/seduction26/10/13 02:07 PM
10

Exactly. Most fraternity social events are designed to exclude men who are not members. You would likely have to develop yourself as a man of exceptional value just to crack into that scene, at which point you probably won't need to go to those parties to meet women. And even if you were in a fraternity, I would not recommend that as a sole source of meeting women. To some degree, it may work as an indicator of status, but competing with 50 of your "closest friends" for every woman that walks in…
/r/seduction26/10/13 02:01 PM
1

My experience is limited to the United States and more liberal European countries, so I can't really speak to the cultural differences. As far as matters of taste go, I would expect that, at least here in the western cultures I'm used to, that women of that age might find someone like you intriguing. Not all of them, by any means, but enough that you could tackle your problem. Also, it depends on how important it is due to lose your virginity, as opposed to how the rest of your sex life may go. …
/r/seduction25/10/13 09:48 PM
1

Nice job stretching your comfort zone.
/r/seduction23/10/13 06:06 PM
2

Yes, it matters why. No, it doesn't matter what she TELLS you is why.
/r/seduction23/10/13 01:46 AM
1

This. Men, get on leading your lives.
/r/seduction21/10/13 04:19 PM
2

"Hey, this guy likes you. You should give him a chance." Let her shoot him down. Anyway, lots of AMOG-destroyers out there. I think RSD Tyler Durden had a number of them in one post somewhere.
/r/seduction21/10/13 03:48 PM
1

Or, instruct her that's its not acceptable to act like that and then refuse to be honest about why.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/13 12:52 AM
3

Congratulations on breaking outside their comfort zone. Also nice job in recognizing that you didn't have to go after her right at the moment, but you had laid the groundwork to see her later. This experience will help give you the confidence in the future that you will need to deal with this kind of situation coming up, or you can continue the interaction right away. I felt a little pang of sadness for you when she left you the first time, but I also was saying No To myself, "she'll find her ag…
/r/seduction18/10/13 01:02 PM
1

Thanks for the FR
/r/seduction17/10/13 10:04 PM
1

This was great. Here's a guy who knows who he is and OWNS it. The best response to "Just be yourself" I've ever seen. Bravo, sir.
/r/seduction17/10/13 04:45 PM
3

But she's got an abnormally large heart.
/r/TheRedPill17/10/13 12:40 PM
1

She ran a brothel out of her dorm room? "Sparkles and secrets" indeed.
/r/TheRedPill17/10/13 12:23 PM
1

Imagine Danny Devito doing each of these 19 things. Creeeeeepppyyyyyyyy.
/r/seduction17/10/13 04:10 AM
5

Check your white male privilege at the door, brother.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/13 07:22 PM
11

Last I checked "male" was not a protected class. Everything else, pretty much.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/13 12:07 PM
3

So tell us something constructive: how are you using the lesson you've learned with this girl to take positive steps to acquire some game, so that you can be mailing top-shelf kitty by the end of the year?
/r/seduction13/10/13 10:46 PM
1

You're one of the few who answered based on real-world experience.
/r/seduction13/10/13 10:11 PM
16

He could also be referring to saggy melons.
/r/seduction13/10/13 07:33 PM
11

It depends on the behavior of the other guy. If he is behaving aggressively towards you, interfering with your game, then you will come off better if you act as if he's no threat: hence the "give him a chance" would be the best approach there. If he's just some guy they know, hanging around and accidentally getting your way, then you can easily neutralize him by actually trying to friend him. But also, in a slightly different way, shows that you do not regard him as a threat. Edit: I see a lot o…
/r/seduction13/10/13 02:09 PM
2

I've used a variation of this, namely more of a way to invite the target over, and it works best in smaller, more intimate settings where you have strong social proof. So if you're at a friends house party, and you're surrounded by people know and like you and are visibly having a good time, You should be able pull this off with the new girl in the room almost 100% of the time. In a crowded club, your success rate will likely be much lower, but will be more likely to strong close when it does.
/r/seduction04/10/13 10:24 PM
1

If your date is going well, you should always try to make a move on a kiss no later than mid-date. That way, if she's into it, that leaves you some room for logical progression when the date is "over".
/r/seduction02/10/13 06:16 PM
1

"You strike me as the kind of girl who would enjoy a really good cabernet in a cool jazz club ." Her response to that will tell you all you need to know. Calendaring will be the last of your worries.
/r/seduction02/10/13 06:15 PM
1

Your goal is to inspire emotions and her. As long as you're not inspiring boredom, as I said in another post, you should be good. Keep it playful and fun, so even when they are "mad" at you it's more like you're teasing your bratty little sister then them genuinely taking offense at something done.
/r/seduction02/10/13 06:12 PM
1

Upvotes all around. Nicely said.
/r/seduction02/10/13 06:11 PM
1

Walk up to them. Say something. Anything at all. What you say is far less important than how you say it: confident, self assured, and having a good time. I tends to prefer situational openers, but it really doesn't matter what type of opener you use. Just keep making statements, confidently making assertions, until you say something that she hooks on. That might mean, by the way, that you have to do a lot of the talking initially. That's okay. Just do it. But after the initial approach, the stat…
/r/seduction02/10/13 06:10 PM
-2

Can they picture themselves riding your cock? If so, problem solved.
/r/seduction02/10/13 06:03 PM
1

With the benefit of reading this in the calm of my own home: Look at drunk guy: "ok, four. You go save us a seat." Wait until he leaves. "Two."
/r/TheRedPill01/10/13 10:33 AM
6

Sounds like you're a guy who knows exactly what he wants and how to get it. No hate here.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/13 12:51 AM
2

"You're sleeping on the couch." 100% success rate.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/13 12:35 AM
4

I guess you could field test this and report back.
/r/seduction01/10/13 12:24 AM
2

The way you've described it, you played it perfectly. I wouldn't change a thing. I also really like how you opened up by talking to some guy who looked interesting. Sometimes that's a great way to do it… and it really worked here.
/r/seduction30/09/13 10:55 PM
1

I think college girls receptive to all types of game in general. You might find that, depending on where you look, you might find girls more receptive today game versus night game or vice versa. The good news is, you have three or four years to experiment report back.
/r/seduction30/09/13 09:38 PM
5

Focus on the process, not the results. Nick Saban built a world-class football program at the University of Alabama by focusing on process, rather than outcome. You can build a world class "you" by doing the same. This is especially important for any project on what you feel overwhelmed. Is your purpose to improve your fitness? And set a goal to work out 20 minutes a day, three times a week, and you may not see results immediately, but cumulative effects of those workouts over time will result i…
/r/seduction30/09/13 11:45 AM
10

If it worked, remember it for next time.
/r/seduction30/09/13 11:11 AM
1

I guess he'd prefer foam around the mouth. Well, field test, I guess.
/r/seduction30/09/13 11:02 AM
90

"I have impossibly high standards. I'm still making a decision about you." Say it with a big shiteating grin.
/r/seduction29/09/13 10:19 PM
1

Upvotes for searching first. In the age of the Internet, there's little or no excuse for not being able to find people with similar interest to your own. The only obstacle is your willingness to go out next try new things. One place to try is meetup.com. You will find lots of groups there that are active and constantly doing things, and if you can find one that doesn't anything you're remotely interested in, you can go do that. If you're doing a lot of self-improvement, it is important to find p…
/r/seduction29/09/13 10:15 PM
1

I like the second approach, spreading it out by teasing her about whether not you're going to ask her for her number. This has lots of psychological advantages to the simple bold straight out and ask. I will have to try this myself sometime.
/r/seduction29/09/13 10:09 PM
2

Someone who's afraid of being weird or creepy is really stating that they're afraid of being rejected. If she likes you, it's neither weird nor creepy to approach her. So your goal, as it always is, is to interact with her in a way that will allow her to be attracted. When the interaction is brief, and in a commercial context, you need to generate the attraction by being bolder than usual. In this case I would No Recommend saying something like "you seem like a really insane person. We should gr…
/r/seduction29/09/13 10:06 PM
1

It's natural for you to look at something you're curious about or interested in. Make it a point to look in her eyes, for example, so you can make note of what color they are, whether she's wearing any eye make up, and so on. If you're looking at her eyes to gather information, rather than trying to psych yourself up to be bolder, you'll find that it's easier to maintain contact. Edit: I interpreted your question to mean maintaining initial I contact, rather than content throughout the conversat…
/r/seduction29/09/13 09:56 PM
2

Your PS contains the answer. I think that's as far as social opportunities go, you kind of fucked it up by going to such a small school. I will tell you, though, every time I've seen Vanderbilt girls, they been pretty hot. And offender builders like most other colleges, with a high female to male ratio, then you probably have an opportunity there. Your challenge is to expand your social circle in a way that allows you to make contact with Vandy girls. I don't know much about TT you and the other…
/r/seduction29/09/13 09:51 PM
2

She still a virgin. Anal doesn't count.
/r/TheRedPill29/09/13 08:40 PM
5

Start taking video immediately, until you can get a witness there to protect you against her lies.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/13 11:03 PM
5

Let's be blunt: that woman is a chunk. I would say that that's by no means unusual in America, but also by no means is it "typical".
/r/TheRedPill27/09/13 01:37 PM
5

You don't keep "score" and you're disappointed that she expects you to. Maybe she's not the kind of person you thought she was... As soon as you take yourself away like that, she'll change.
/r/seduction25/09/13 04:23 AM
6

And don't forget the half-carat cubic zirconia engagement ring. Because that's what you can afford on your new salary as an orderly. But you really, really, really don't want to lose her to some other guy.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/13 04:58 PM
27

Tell her you're dropping out of med school. She'll be out of there so fast, she'll leave skidmarks.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/13 12:08 PM
3

My point is that Lohan is likely to suck off a homeless guy if he had an extra crack rock.
/r/TheRedPill21/09/13 02:02 AM
6

"But I am way more likely to get Patrick Dempsey to fuck me in a bathroom than you are to get Lindsay Lohan to suck you off in your car." Really?
/r/TheRedPill20/09/13 02:24 AM
2

What about her job is it that suddenly changed the way you regard her? It's just a job, and it makes her no better no worse than when you first met her. Spend some time thinking about this. It may be the key to your problem.
/r/seduction17/09/13 07:00 PM
1

Show, don't tell.
/r/seduction17/09/13 06:58 PM
2

Exactly. If you find a girl attractive, then run your game. Sometime later that night, when you're balls deep in her, she might realize that you think she's attractive. By that time, it's too late for her to develop an attitude about it.
/r/seduction17/09/13 06:57 PM
2

Yes. This.
/r/seduction17/09/13 06:44 PM
2

It's not about "warning" the girl. She knows what she's there for. But she wants to pretend like she's not there for sex, because she doesn't want to feel like a slut. Don't underestimate the power of self-deception in your game, on her your part, though, not yours.
/r/seduction17/09/13 05:42 PM
1

Congratulations on a job well done.
/r/seduction17/09/13 05:37 PM
1

These are great examples of "agree and amplify". Learn it, live it, love it.
/r/seduction17/09/13 03:45 PM
2

Better solution: only sleep with women who are already married. You be the Alpha stud, let them have their beta provider.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/13 12:18 PM
1

They're both text on a screen. The FAQ will help you. I don't knowmwhy you're fighting so hard aganst learning. Enjoy single life.
/r/seduction17/09/13 02:12 AM
1

I am helping and you just don't realize it. Go back and read your post. You specifically asked for help with one girl.
/r/seduction16/09/13 11:12 PM
1

Sigh. "How Do I Get This One Girl?" is in the FAQ.
/r/seduction16/09/13 10:35 PM
22

Nice open. I think you might've gone one text too far. Next time, just set up your next meeting.
/r/seduction16/09/13 10:23 PM
1

Excellent post.
/r/seduction16/09/13 01:00 AM
20

Ack. Why do you think she is telling you this? She wants you: To feel bad about choices you've made in your own life To see her as obtainable when she chose to be with someone else To be her fallback orbiter in case her current beau doesn't work out. To compete with her new guy for her affections. She's manipulating you. You need to immediately start spending your time with multiple other women. And write this one off.
/r/seduction16/09/13 12:51 AM
0

She's a terrible human being.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/13 06:41 PM
1

I don't have any moral objection. There are two things I would be cautious of. First of all, remember that should be engaging in illegal activity. That runs the risk of potential arrest and prosecution, however small, and the risk associated with people who make a living from illegal activities. This includes, for example, the risk of getting robbed or set up in someway. Also, there is some risk of disease, and whether that risk is greater than unit face just picking up someone in a bar, I canno…
/r/seduction15/09/13 04:48 PM
2

I thoroughly enjoyed that.
/r/TheRedPill13/09/13 05:58 PM
2

I seem to recall the outcome-independence is a Zen-compatible concept. Perhaps you should focus on that in your meditation.
/r/seduction13/09/13 05:48 PM
3

This comment should be front page.
/r/TheRedPill13/09/13 04:42 PM
1

Yup. Escalate now or start over with someone else.
/r/seduction13/09/13 04:26 PM
1

Tell us about how you have been using kino to escalate. My suspicion is that you haven't.
/r/seduction13/09/13 04:01 PM
2

Sounds to me like you're learning you need to improve your confidence. Two things concern me. First, you say that you're "not used to this by which I take you to mean that you're not very comfortable talking to girls by yourself. The second problem I see is that you seem to think this girl is more than you deserve, or could otherwise obtain. Both of these beliefs are damaging your ability to meet women in general. As of the first problem, your lack of comfort, you need to sit down and really thi…
/r/seduction13/09/13 03:57 PM
1

A decent start. Good job on recognizing opportunity to connect. Next time you see her, get her number, make a plan, invite her along, and escalate.
/r/seduction13/09/13 03:45 PM
3

You got time. You're only 18. It sounds like that party sucked. Have you tried searching other venues and other contacts?
/r/seduction13/09/13 03:40 PM
1

I thought you were going to tell me that all of Gaul is divided into three parts
/r/seduction13/09/13 03:35 PM
2

I'm advocating spending your free time having fun with people you want to spend time with. If your classwork is so burdensome that you don't have time to do that, can you eat or have a time management problem or you're in med school.
/r/seduction13/09/13 03:31 PM
5

If you store the five as an array, is the 0 still attractive?
/r/seduction13/09/13 03:28 PM
9

Well-built?
/r/seduction13/09/13 03:27 PM
2

If you've got so much class work to do that you can't get laid, why are you reading Seddit?
/r/seduction13/09/13 01:42 PM
2

I'm seeing a lot of guys give excuses why they can't do this. If they believe they can't, then they're right.
/r/seduction13/09/13 01:40 PM
2

I'm on your side when I tell you: this is complete bullshit. Even nerds get laid. Some girls actually preferred nerds. And I am certain that you are, at least in part, projecting what you think girls might be thinking about you. You know what really might be putting girls off of you? They can sense that you don't like yourself the way you are. If you think the girls would be embarrassed if it were known that there with you, the only reason that would be true is not because you're "nerd" but beca…
/r/seduction13/09/13 01:37 PM
1

I feel confident that this would work for a lot of guys and a lot of girls. It's very difficult to feel test, though, because of the small sample size.
/r/seduction13/09/13 01:20 PM
2

Congrats! You da man now.
/r/seduction13/09/13 01:19 PM
2

Not exactly. I'm assuming they HAVE to.
/r/seduction13/09/13 03:42 AM
22

The fisherman doesn't ask the fish for advice.
/r/seduction12/09/13 10:36 PM
9

When you say things like "it seems like" that tells me you've never tried this in real life. Experience trumps theory every time. Every time. Lots of men manage to spin plates, in the real world. It's not just a theory. I recognize it may be more difficult for someone who hasn't gotten over the finish line yet, but he can truthfully tell each and every one of those girls that he is not sleeping with anyone else. In fact, that may be one time in which it may be helpful to tell the girl that you'r…
/r/seduction12/09/13 10:12 PM
14

Well, then I guess you're fucked. Or not.
/r/seduction12/09/13 10:06 PM
10

And I lost it in the most beta way possible. I dated a girl for year and a half, after she asked me out, when I had no idea she existed. I'd like to go back in time and smack that guy around for all the opportunities he missed.
/r/seduction12/09/13 10:01 PM
13

Baseball players don't begin their career in the major leagues, they worked their way up through the minors first. I wholeheartedly agree that for your very first time out, you shouldn't be terribly worried about scoring with a 10.
/r/seduction12/09/13 09:57 PM
2

That's a different problem from the one addressed in this post, but it means there's some flaw in your game that (almost certainly) can be fixed.
/r/seduction12/09/13 09:44 PM
20

Get out of the house and do stuff.
/r/seduction12/09/13 09:43 PM
10

In what world are all these girls finding out about each other? This seems the unlikeliest of obstacles.
/r/seduction12/09/13 09:42 PM
2

You pussy. :)
/r/seduction12/09/13 03:38 PM
16

This post is outstanding, and exactly the opposite of what I was afraid it was going to be. Congratulations.
/r/seduction12/09/13 03:35 PM
1

People being overly sensitive shouldn't be a problem that you worry about. If you say anything were saying, someone's going to take offense at it no matter how delicately put it. Don't be afraid to say things that mean things.
/r/seduction12/09/13 03:28 PM
1

Agreed. Use good judgment. The main point is that if you are comfortable talking to anyone then you won't be uncomfortable talking to women you may find attractive.
/r/seduction12/09/13 02:29 PM
5

TRP is less about getting laid, and more about protecting yourself from the way the world works once you do get laid. It's less about understanding social cues than it is about understanding large scale group behaviors. So yes, you should definitely learn this stuff. I would imagine you would have quite a challenge applying some the things you might learn over at /r/seduction/ but on the other hand, you might find that your particular condition gives you a different type of game than everyone el…
/r/TheRedPill12/09/13 12:42 PM
111

To expand on this, Dave Wygant advocates talking to everyone. Cute girls, ugly girls, fat girls, skinny girls, tall girls, short girls, young girls, or women, and oh yes, dudes too. Get used opening conversations with people, and you will have less trouble opening conversations with people you are attracted to.
/r/seduction11/09/13 09:51 PM
2

Keep an open mind, but not so open your brain falls out.
/r/seduction11/09/13 07:12 PM
3

As with all shit test, agree and amplify. For this one, you get bonus points for escalating sexual content: "If you take her home, you better be willing to share." Or, "I can see that she's your type."
/r/seduction11/09/13 05:51 PM
1

Congratulations. Now that you let go of the guys that were holding you back, surround yourself with friends will help you move forward. It has been said that you will be the average of the five people you spend the most time with. Focus on that as you make plans with new friends for the future.
/r/seduction11/09/13 05:47 PM
1

Congratulations on standing your ground. The problem with being a virgin, is it gives you a scarcity mentality. You have to believe that you have options, but there are multiple women who you either know or can meet you might relieve you of that burden. And until that happens, you're going to have to fight hard against the stink of desperation. I believe the best way for a virgin to avoid the scarcity mentality is to cultivate potential encounters with a number of women, as many as you can, at t…
/r/seduction11/09/13 05:32 PM
1

I like this.
/r/seduction11/09/13 05:20 PM
3

The biggest problem I see right now, is that you are making the girl the activity. Because, for you, it is. You are focused on losing your virginity. Focus instead on being a man who has a life of its own, adventures of his own, and is willing to share it with one or more women he knows. Do fun shit and invite girls along. Once you're off doing fun shit with girls you like, escalate. If you're actually having fun, doing things that you think are fun, then you'll bless focused on the ultimate out…
/r/seduction11/09/13 05:16 PM
9

You need to be outcome independent. For guys who are still virgins, it is likely that sometimes the lack of experience will interfere with the ultimate outcome. Occasionally, you might find a lower chance of success. However, if you consistently run the best game you can, outside of this singular area, you will eventually build up the sexual experience you need so that this will no longer become a problem. And any event, it should come up early enough that it should not be an obstacle initially.…
/r/seduction11/09/13 05:07 PM
1

You should be more open to other people's invitations.
/r/seduction10/09/13 02:43 PM
2

"I'm grabbing a drink. You should join me."
/r/seduction10/09/13 02:42 PM
2

If a guy with facial hair like that is getting laid, sex must be in the bargain bin.
/r/TheRedPill10/09/13 04:06 AM
15

"BY THEMSELVES, THE cultural and technological advances that have made my stance on childbearing plausible would be enough to reshape our understanding of the modern family—but, unfortunately, they happen to be dovetailing with another set of developments that can be summed up as: the deterioration of the male condition.… But while the rise of women has been good for everyone, the decline of males has obviously been bad news for men—and bad news for marriage." Can she be so blind to see NO conne…
/r/TheRedPill09/09/13 04:14 PM
2

Thanks for the FR. Good to see you back in the game.
/r/seduction09/09/13 04:01 AM
2

Wow. That's everything I would say plus a few things I never thought of. Thanks for linking to the article. "If you want to work here, close."
/r/TheRedPill08/09/13 11:43 PM
1

First, please read the sidebar, that which point you should discover our posts about "How do I get this one girl?"
/r/seduction06/09/13 09:50 PM
5

You already know you need to be outcome-independent. Your question really revolves around how you get there. I suggest you make the process your outcome. You should focus on whether or not your game, your techniques, your process is improving every time you go out. Think of the Nick Saban approach to college football: spend your time improving the process, and the results will naturally follow. If, at the end of the night, you can say that you really brought your game to the next level, even if …
/r/seduction06/09/13 09:42 PM
1

http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/ecmm8/how_i_go_from_number_to_first_date/
/r/seduction06/09/13 09:31 PM
1

Set up the next date: "That was fun. Let's do that again, but better. Meet me at…"
/r/seduction06/09/13 05:16 PM
2

You don't fish in the forest, and don't hunt deer in the ocean. If the clubs aren't working, go find women somewhere else.
/r/seduction06/09/13 05:14 PM
1

Up until that last sentence, I thought you were doing just fine. You seemed outcome-independence, you seemed like you had control the situation, and you didn't seem to be playing into her shit. Why do you care if you're the "booty call?" You make it sound like you're getting emotionally involved with this woman, which, frankly, I wouldn't do if she has the propensity to get "black-out drunk" on a regular basis. By the way, you can text her back to say that she's the one that wants to give you th…
/r/seduction06/09/13 02:34 PM
4

Baby steps. Crawl, then walk, then run. Congrats on your progress.
/r/seduction06/09/13 02:22 PM
1

Our society is full of pre-scripted social interactions. None of us think the worst of any of them, and the advantage to them is that they enable even complete strangers to meet social expectations of their counterparts. A perfect example of this is the question "how are you doing?" The universally accepted response to that is "I'm fine. How are you?" Canned interactions like this are like social lubricant, in that they make otherwise potentially awkward situations go very smoothly. So of course…
/r/seduction06/09/13 02:17 PM
1

You have correctly identified the parts that you did right in the parts that you did wrong. You also displayed a very healthy attitude about the experience. I wouldn't totally write this one off just yet, but I think the lessons you've learned with this interaction will serve you well for the next several interactions you have with other women over the upcoming days. And, the phrasing is it accidental—I think you should have several interactions with women over the next few days. Edit: s/right/w…
/r/seduction06/09/13 02:11 PM
1

Congratulations on breaking through the next level. This was not luck, this was the result of hard work and the decision to transform yourself. Keep up the great work.
/r/seduction05/09/13 05:24 PM
2

Get her number. She should invest, but you should retain control.
/r/seduction04/09/13 10:52 PM
1

You're asking for directions to Albuquerque without telling us what part of the world you're standing in.
/r/seduction04/09/13 10:51 PM
4

Exactly. One of the most important things she demonstrated by doing that is that she doesn't know this guy at all. He sounds like he's probably not interested in ever getting married, to anyone, and she should've known that.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/13 12:12 PM
5

Also note that it seems to have never occurred to her to start her own business, where she can impose all the socially-just workplace policies she wants.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/13 11:28 AM
1

It would have been the right direction if he had initiated it, not her. This was a test, and he failed.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/13 11:26 AM
3

Congratulations on taking positive steps to improve You almost certainly follow baseball at some level. Even the very best hitters, the Hall of Fame hitters, fail to get on base more than half the time. But they keep going back up to the plate and they keep swinging. And eventually they get a hit. You are a rookie working his way up through the minor leagues. You need as many at-bats as possible so you get comfortable the plate. Once you get used to it, you'll find yourself taking better and bet…
/r/seduction03/09/13 09:34 PM
13

This. Or, agree and amplify. "You're right. I don't want to date you. In fact I'm not even sure I want to be seen talking to you. Here, let's move over to this corner where no one will see us."
/r/TheRedPill03/09/13 09:26 PM
1

"I regret that I have but one upvote to give." Thanks.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/13 09:21 PM
7

Glad you're here. To use your analogy, take care of the Jeep yourself—don't rely on her to do it. Take the time to become the man that you really approve of, rather than the one that seeks approval from her. Develop and practice confidence and strength in all other aspects of your life. Level up your fitness, your career, your social life. You will naturally translate this to your home life as well—including when she sees that you're getting to be a catch she might not be able to hold on to. If …
/r/TheRedPill03/09/13 04:38 PM
4

She grabs me and starts making out with me like a wild animal. You're still letting her take the lead. And giving her the attention she wants—and your rejected suggestion to "duck into the bedroom" is exactly what she was looking for—proof that she still had the power to pull you, not the other way around. You should have refused to make out with her. What you did instead was simply a more purple shade of blue.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/13 04:33 PM
58

"I am also apply for jobs." I see those degrees have done the trick.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/13 04:22 PM
1

Yeah, it's pretty good. How did I miss it?
/r/seduction31/08/13 09:27 PM
8

The good news is that some states have actually passed laws to prevent this sort of bullshit.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/13 07:33 PM
1

Actually, what I told you to do would accomplish exactly the objective you seek. You're afraid of seeming "Needy" When in reality, this would do exactly the opposite. You giving the other person the chance to talk about what they want to talk about, by offering the multiple drugs into a conversation. They can pick the one that has meaning to them. And, more importantly they can pick the one that will develop into a conversation with you about things you have in common. And to be frank, I did mis…
/r/seduction30/08/13 03:21 PM
3

I been trying to contribute over there a lot more than I have been in the past. But wow, I don't think I've seen so much oneitis in a long time.
/r/seduction30/08/13 01:16 PM
2

Don't ask questions. Make statements. Or even give commands. And if you can make it a teasing statement, so much the better: "You know they say men think about sex every seven seconds. But girls only think about sex when they're quiet." If you don't like that one, simply make a direct observational statement about her or your surroundings. "You seem like the kind of person who's all innocent on the surface, but you've got a secret wild side." Some will even tell you it doesn't matter what you sa…
/r/seduction30/08/13 12:31 PM
20

The letter writer is correct about the marriage being unbalanced. This poor schmuck could do WAY better than her.
/r/TheRedPill29/08/13 09:50 PM
9

This man is no more obligated to share his savings account against his will, than she would be to share her body against her will.
/r/TheRedPill29/08/13 09:46 PM
8

Congratulations. This really put a smile on my face to see someone describe the transformation from zero to hero in a relatively short time. Keep it up, keep us in the loop.
/r/TheRedPill29/08/13 09:40 PM
-1

"That's a great story. Meet me for coffee tomorrow at 2pm and you'll hear it all."
/r/seduction29/08/13 04:49 PM
2

What's the other thing, besides the uniform, these men all have in common?
/r/TheRedPill29/08/13 04:31 PM
12

I'm shocked, shocked, that there are double standards in this establishment.
/r/TheRedPill29/08/13 01:32 PM
6

But, negging! It irritates me to know like that one of the most misunderstood and most abused tactics that Mystery created is the one that all the hamsters pile on to. I think the women that have the most problem with seduction tactics are the ones were least likely to encounter them in the real world, because no one is going to try to seduce them.
/r/TheRedPill29/08/13 12:11 PM
1

Sorry I didn't see this earlier, but the advice here about kino is solid. I don't have anything to add.
/r/seduction28/08/13 04:52 PM
2

If I am going down on her, but she is not going down on me, I would call that a failure. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of eating pussy, but I'm a bigger fan of getting head.
/r/seduction28/08/13 04:48 PM
2

Without more detail, I'll just give you the obvious answer: kino.
/r/seduction28/08/13 04:42 PM
1

Wow, lots of negative self-talk here. Take a different approach: be curious. I wonder what THAT girl is like. I wonder if she's open to meeting new people. I wonder if she's confident enough to have a conversation with a man she's just met Sometimes the answer will be yea, and sometimes no. Just talking to her doesn't make you a pervert. (Whatever got you thinking that, fix it.)
/r/seduction28/08/13 04:24 PM
1

If your kino is strong, you should have a pretty good idea when she's ready to be kissed. One tip—if she lets you touch her hair, it's probably on.
/r/seduction28/08/13 02:53 PM
4

She's 17. You're 22. Could be a problem. You work together. Could be a problem. Check the sidebar and look through the FAQ for "How Do I Get This One Girl?"
/r/seduction28/08/13 02:51 PM
3

"I'll make you good at it". This, by the way, is an IOI.
/r/seduction27/08/13 08:48 PM
1

What does it mean to have a girlfriend? What do you mean when you say you've never had one? Unless you're a virgin—and if you, are, that's a different question—it's fair to say that you've "been with a few girls" and don't elaborate. If a girl keeps pushing you for your romantic history, it may be a sign she's screening you—fine. Deal with it as a shit test—agree and amplify: "Let's see.. eight, nine, yeah, nine thousand. So how many girlfriends have you had?" How is this coming up, anyway? Mayb…
/r/seduction27/08/13 08:47 PM
1

"It's ok" I like this—it puts you in position of authority, giving approval.
/r/seduction27/08/13 08:40 PM
4

Do we need to add sarcasm flair here?
/r/TheRedPill27/08/13 08:25 PM
2

Congratulations on the 90 pounds. That is an outstanding accomplishment, one you should be very proud of. I don't believe I'm asking girls out for "dates". I believe in being a guy who is having a fantastic adventure, and may have the opportunity to invite a companion along. For a girl who is new in town, that is an outstanding opportunity to explore your own town, perhaps in a way you may never have done before, And extend her the invitation to come along with you. The focus, then, is not on th…
/r/seduction27/08/13 07:42 PM
4

This is a shit test. Never answer seriously. Guess either 13 or 60. Or 13, then 60. Or just tease her for asking the question at all. But for her even to be asking this question is a red flag.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/13 04:38 PM
2

I'm going to leave her out of this for just a moment and discuss just you. What I am not hearing, is that you, as a 23-year old mail, want to spend the rest of your life with this particular woman. What I hear is that you are afraid of losing her in the short term. You see marriage as a way to fix that short-term problem. There's nothing essentially wrong with wanting to marry someone, and even with wanting to marry a particular woman who you think has all the right qualities. It is extremely ra…
/r/TheRedPill27/08/13 04:32 PM
1

Remarkably, you didn't even have the confidence in the question you asked Idol, the follow-through in the text of your post. At first you ask how you can become more confident, then you explain to us how and why you've already given up. So I'm a do you a favor and answer the question that you asked, which is what you really need: how to get more confidence. Confidence is like a muscle, and it grows the more you use it. If you haven't used it and are not very strong, and like a muscle, you need t…
/r/seduction27/08/13 03:47 PM
4

Stop going on "dates." To do things that are fun for you, and offer some woman the opportunity to join you. If you're doing shit you don't enjoy just for the sake of spending time with someone, then you need to rethink your plan, and spend your time doing things you do enjoy inviting people who enjoy them with you.
/r/seduction27/08/13 02:02 PM
3

One other thing to remember. If you're with someone who's completely in their own head, at some point you really need to just call her out. It's something you're both aware is going on, and it's actually a form of disrespect by her to be so closed off, unless she's just naturally shy or introverted. By calling her out on it you give her a chance to make it up to you or fix whatever's going on. And if she can't or won't fix the problem, then you can end the date by saying "it looks like tonight j…
/r/seduction27/08/13 02:00 PM
5

In high school, the only thing you really need in order to meet and date girls is confidence, confidence, confidence. Walk into that classroom as if you own it. Give a friendly greetings to all your friends in the class, saving your wing man for last. Then greet her as well. All you need to do is break that nice, and make that first contact. Once you've done that, you can interact with her in whatever way you please, especially in the hallway afterwards. Remember when you speak to her, make stat…
/r/seduction27/08/13 01:57 PM
1

Only if she asked you for the shortest route.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/13 01:47 PM
1

Glad it helped. Do yourself a favor and get a couple of irons in the fire even while you're seeing this woman. Nothing too fancy, just create options.
/r/seduction27/08/13 12:57 PM
4

Middle. It won't feel as forces as if you wait until the end. Besides, at the end of the night you should be planning how to get her into bed.
/r/seduction26/08/13 10:05 PM
6

If you're not courageous enough to talk to her in person, don't bother adding her on Facebook. You should have approached her at the outset.
/r/seduction26/08/13 09:51 PM
2

Exactly. You need to leave better groundwork from the outset.
/r/seduction26/08/13 09:50 PM
48

Username earned.
/r/seduction26/08/13 09:47 PM
1

I'm just nervous because she is quite the catch (HB 8-9), and I don't want to learn lessons the hard way and mess it up somehow. Pedestal. That's one you're putting under the pussy. Your biggest problem is you don't have the faith in yourself to believe you can pull like this again—that somehow, if you can't keep this girl around, you don't have any other options. Please tell me you see how that won't end well. You need to internalize that you CAN do this whenever you want and that —while you ce…
/r/seduction26/08/13 06:15 PM
5

what really has to happen psychologically is that she has to like herself when she is with you. Well said.
/r/TheRedPill26/08/13 05:50 PM
18

Not hilarious. Fucking tragic.
/r/TheRedPill24/08/13 05:41 AM
3

Brad from RSD has the entire video on this, in which he talks about plowing, caveman-style, through stony silence, until he gets the hook he's looking for. And a stony silence is sometimes just a ship test. If you successfully plow through it, then you have passed the test. Sometimes, stony silence is what you're getting, but a shy, or quiet girl. If that is the case, then just keep plowing. Eventually you'll get to something that she'll want to contribute to. Note that this requires you to have…
/r/seduction23/08/13 10:07 PM
1

It depends on how long you've known them If you've known them for years, they've probably already classified you as a friend, and you've dug a hole too deep to dig out of. If on the other hand your interaction with them has been fairly limited, then you always have another chance to make a good first impression.
/r/seduction23/08/13 10:03 PM
2

I really enjoy the idea that Game works better on smart, emotionally stable women. This is something I have personally observed to be true, but it's nice to see some kind of scientific underpinnings of those anecdotal observations.
/r/TheRedPill23/08/13 09:44 PM
1

First you crawl, then you walk, then you run...
/r/seduction23/08/13 03:45 AM
1

You don't "show" interest. You create interest. So far, you're letting her take the lead, without showing her anything about you that is valuable. If you want a friend, well, fine. If you want to fuck, then you've got to be a guy she wants to fuck.
/r/seduction20/08/13 05:28 PM
1

Just like any other mode of communication: your goal is to initiate an event where you are physically with her. The more time you spend on Facebook, the less time you spend getting laid. Pick an adventure. Invite her to come along. Have your adventure with or without her (hopefully with someone else if things play out that way).
/r/seduction20/08/13 05:18 PM
1

You're 16 years old. Your persona is changing, and will continue to change, for many years, even decades. The question you need to answer for yourself: how to you want it to change? Do you want to be a better man tomorrow than you are today, not for "her" sake but for yours? If so, TRP is for you. If you said you wanted to be a better many just to impress the ladies, then you still wouldn't have understood TRP. So good on you for having the right reasons.
/r/TheRedPill20/08/13 03:12 PM
0

It's great that someone had the balls to do this—and I wouldn't expect anything less of you, Tofu—and while some are nitpicking the results, it's worth reading. There are a few gems in there.
/r/seduction19/08/13 11:07 PM
2

Her: "Hey, you want to find a girl tonight, right?!" You: "I'm just here to have an awesome time. So far, so good." (You're never "looking for girls." You're having an adventure, meeting fun people, exploring new things... but looking for girls.)
/r/seduction11/02/13 01:22 AM
1

I don't think you quite yet understand what it means to be outcome independent. Also, not sure why you thought you were going to get arrested. Seriously, you're in the navy and you got freaked out by this? Better calm down, there, sailor.
/r/seduction11/02/13 01:20 AM
4

This is bullshit. If she was attracted to you, she would "date" you. Which leads to to the real diagnostic: Did you actually ask her for a date? (If no, problem solved: "I didn't say I wanted to date you." Depending on how early in the conversation, you'll want to make this either a disqualifier or really lean into the innuendo.) If you did ask her for a date, then you obviously did it before building sufficient attraction. I don't care what rules she has, if you've amped up her attraction, she …
/r/seduction11/02/13 01:16 AM
6

sounds like she was into you anyway, but good job keeping state and not blowing it.
/r/seduction16/01/13 01:04 AM
2

Attraction is a procss, not an innate quality. If you're not attracting women with your current process, you need to improve the process rather than change some abstract quality about yourself.
/r/seduction16/12/12 06:48 PM
5

This Web site is shit because it can't be viewed on a mobile browser. The pop up ads fuck it all up.
/r/seduction14/12/12 03:00 AM
2

I flashed a sly smile and said, "I'm more fun than you boyfriend is." Her eyes widened a little bit. Loved this response. Well done.
/r/seduction13/12/12 10:11 PM
2

I think a lot of the same broad principles that apply to men will also apply to women. The major difference is that looks matter more, but still not as much as you think. A "6" can be an 8 with the right grooming, and even a 4 can be a 6 if she knows how to work it. But the best answer of all is this: read the FAQ and try out the same techniques. Figure out what works and what doesn't with field testing of your own. As Sinn writes in Magic Bullets, any reasonable plan will work better than no pl…
/r/seduction13/12/12 10:06 PM
1

You don't. You show her how SHE feels about YOU. http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/e873a/how_do_i_show_her_how_i_feel_about_her/
/r/seduction13/12/12 05:44 PM
1

Nothing new to see here.
/r/seduction11/12/12 02:10 PM
2

Yes. http://www.reddit.com/user/LesbianPUA
/r/seduction21/10/12 05:00 PM
2

How did you get from "simply open up and talk to everybody" to "you've been hitting on every girl here"? You defused the situation perfectly, but it sounds like there are at least two people with perception problems about what was happening—this girl, who may have been jealous that you were talking to everyone, and you—because you let her offhand comment give you doubt about what you were doing: "In retrospect, some girls seemed wary of me and had a clammy attitude." You'll get perceived as need…
/r/seduction08/10/12 11:10 PM
1

"I can't stay long." Reply: "That's perfect. I've got to meet someone at 10:00 anyway." (And then, enforce it. Or if the night is going really well, you can "cancel" your later obligation. By "really well," I mean your cock is already in her mouth.) Oh, and make sure you've actually got something lined up for later. But the real problem here is, why are you getting this result before the meeting? Sounds like you're not building enough attraction first. Once is a flake; twice is a pattern. (Three…
/r/seduction24/08/12 02:31 AM
1

That's a really odd question to ask… except that it she's exposing her interest in you. She likes you and wants to know if you like her back. If she didn't, she wouldn't be texting you. ThrowawayPUA's answer is a pretty good one because you want to keep a little mystery and a little tension. You do NOT want to resolve the tension. A similar answer could be: "Might be some potential there…" and then do NOT engage in text conversations except if you're setting up your next date.
/r/seduction18/08/12 10:30 PM
2

"I will not engage in psychological manipulation to shape your opinion of myself. What you see is what you get." This is a form of psychological manipulation designed to shape other's opinions.
/r/seduction11/12/11 03:40 AM
4

Never tell a girl you WANT to kiss her. Kiss her and chat about it afterwards.
/r/seduction26/11/11 03:32 AM
2

How does this differ from oneitis?
/r/seduction26/11/11 03:18 AM
6

Fuck ten other women. Really, is this one so special?
/r/seduction26/11/11 02:39 AM
2

How old are the two of you? I'm not really into nailing chicks I have NO feeling for, but even in my worst AFC virgin days I wouldn't want to spend a minute with someone who bored me or I felt nothing for. And when I broke that guideline, it usually sucked or ended up an embarassment. If you can lose it with someone who you can trust and have fun with, that's the best route. But sometimes even bad pizza is pretty good, especially when you're starving.
/r/seduction26/11/11 02:38 AM
3

"Stay…share…" Ideal balance. The "share" implies generosity and value, and softens the commend to "stay" so that you come across as leading rather than domineering.
/r/seduction22/11/11 08:15 PM
1

Somehow, I'm able to pull day 2, but not often day 3's. And I can't seem to get them to chase me. They reply if I text, but if I don't text, I usually don't hear from them. It's kinda frustrating since I felt like we made a connection, but they refuse to lift a finger. And if I don't, it just seems to languish. You seem to be confusing "Leave 'em wanting more" with "I shouldn't have to lift a finger." What exactly is happening on day 2 and day 3, and how does it differ from what you're expecting…
/r/seduction21/11/11 02:16 AM
1

Some reading and IRL experience tells me that i need social proof because frankly girls are very keen to social aspects in life. You seem very insightful. Here's my advice for you: You need an active social LIFE before you lock yourself into one girl or a dozen. One of the key aspects to "being the prize" is that you lead a busy, fulfilling life on your own, and you're willing to share that with the right woman or women. How do you develop a social life when it seems like you're having trouble g…
/r/seduction17/11/11 10:34 PM
1

It also looks like you're empathizing with her—which is another reason it might work well. On the other hand, it might seem like you're checking out her gams.
/r/seduction17/11/11 10:18 PM
2

If you're tricking girls into kissing you, you're doing it wrong.
/r/seduction16/11/11 02:10 AM
2

This is really not optimal as I'm not the kind of guy to verbally escalate, letting kino do most of the work for me. So, right off the bat, no kino for our entire conversation. I don't understand how you were unable to use kino in this situation. You've got to set yourself up better. This will, of course, vary from situation to situation. She says that she can't because she has homework, fairly valid excuse. Your whole plan was thwarted because you didn't figure out logistics properly. If you're…
/r/seduction16/11/11 02:04 AM
3

shit tests with the water which I just passed by being myself, Yes and no. She told you that you passed, but in reality, you were manipulated. And even though you acted in the way she told herself she wanted you to act, in reality by allowing yourself to be manipulated, you lost a bit of her respect even if she doesn't realize it. Probably not a big deal, since you did most everything else fine, but perhaps a better way of handling that would have been to teasingly chide her for losing the water…
/r/seduction12/11/11 06:08 AM
2

But it doesn't matter because I went out last night and got another goddamn number! Engrave this in stone. Make copies. Pass it around to all your friends. And congratulations on your big breakthrough.
/r/seduction09/11/11 04:59 AM
13

she wouldn't be as happy or as talkative as she was being. "I'm curious, why do you think that is?" Let them pretend they're inscrutable, even when they're being completely transparent.
/r/seduction28/10/11 10:13 PM
2

Useless.
/r/seduction28/10/11 04:36 AM
37

"You like him? That's cute. Let me know how that goes." Next.
/r/seduction28/10/11 04:32 AM
7

a place where I can gather a more positive state I really like this idea and the analogy. Ultimately, though, you should develop to the point where you can "farm" state on your own before you even open the door to leave your home. Your own mind is the most fertile soil you'll ever have.
/r/seduction25/10/11 04:32 PM
4

Who we are as human beings is defined by the way we relate to those around us. Developing lasting, meaningful relationships is a basic human need. Arbitrarily denying ourselves that aspect of our lives goes against who we have evolved to be, and ultimately harms us. We NEED to have long-terms relationships with someone, be it friends, family, or life partners. Flitting through life, touching people for just one night at a time, never reaching deeper than night, ultimately robs you of a much rich…
/r/seduction25/10/11 04:18 PM
1

Put a Courage Wolf on your phone, eating one of the cats from one of the cat photos.
/r/seduction29/09/11 01:27 AM
1

I'm reading some backstory since I've been away for a while, but with the benefit of a little perspective I can see that you eject a LOT, even when things are going well with girls you're attracted to. I suggest you make yourself a promise to stop ejecting before going for a # close—even if it's a girl you don't want. Practice will do you good.
/r/seduction23/09/11 12:45 AM
4

They silently BEG you every day to start a conversation and drop an atomic love bomb into their world. I love this frame.
/r/seduction07/05/11 03:49 AM
1

I've gotten a bunch of PM's from Sedditors saying some really kind words to me after posting this. And well deserved, too. This was the Platonian ideal of a pickup. You played everything damn-near perfect (except, sadly, you didn't get the full-close) Congrats.
/r/seduction31/03/11 05:18 PM
9

Well, yeah. But bbefore you can understand the strategy, you have to learn the tactics. Before he beca?e a grand master, Kasparov had to learn how the knight moves. (What the...? L shape?) For a lot of guys the tactics can lead to getting better girls, which improves confidence, which inspires you to quit your job and found that start-up, which makes you rich... and so on.
/r/seduction30/03/11 09:43 PM
2

Your friend was right… boy, do you ever need our help. You haven't said a single compelling or positive thing about this girl. You obviously don't realize you have better options, eve if you don't yet know the techniques to develop them. Treat yourself with enough respect to find yourself some better options. Treat this girl with enough respect to stop leading her on. Break it off and fill your nights with the wonders you will soon learn to create..
/r/seduction03/03/11 12:15 AM
3

What's the F in AFC stand for? If you're feeling it, then guess what role you're playing? GFTOW.
/r/seduction02/03/11 11:49 PM
5

One anecdotal "it worked out" is counterbalanced by the endless waves of AFC's who have fallen victim to one-itis. OP should be a man with options. If he wants to spend time with this girl, fine, as long as he's banging some other girl like a screen door in the meantime.
/r/seduction02/03/11 11:48 PM
1

tries to chat me up, clearly nervous, starts talking about being cold, and have some circulatory disease that makes her cold/sleepy. This totally throws me off When a girl you've just met starts giving you her medical condition, she's opening up to you. This could be good, as in IOI, or bad, as in friendzone. This early in, it's probably a mild IOI. The crowd is mostly male, all the girls are clearly attached to a dude there. So… make friends with that dude. I say, "What am I getting out of this…
/r/seduction27/02/11 11:34 PM
2

to watch the AFC fight at a bar downtown. Did you see those two chumps fighting over a girl outside the bar? Seriously, though, reading a FR like this is like reading about someone who's been afflicted with a horrible disease since childhood—and then suddenly finds a cure. Congrats on your breakthrough. Reading through your FR, I see you really are getting the fundamentals. Social Proof like crazy, I only wish there were more people in the bar to witness it. Now that you know everyone who works …
/r/seduction27/02/11 11:26 PM
2

If by "here" you mean all of Seddit, all the time, then yes, it's definitely relevant.
/r/seduction27/02/11 11:19 PM
2

If she wants a man who: Lacks confidence Supplicates Flunks shit-tests Buys her drinks Won't ever get in her pants Isn't a prize Has nothing else going on in his life but this one girl Then yeah, PUA techniques won't work on her. Good riddance.
/r/seduction26/02/11 11:24 PM
3

Shit test response: agree & amplify. "Yeah, I hate those guys too! Who do those douchebags thinks they are?" Shit test defused, move on quickly.
/r/seduction24/02/11 01:25 PM
0

I agree with OP and I disagree with evryone who thinks this girl was DTF. I don't know if OP failed to maintain the proper frame throughout or failed some shit tests he didn't mention, but for her to just walk away refusing to give an explanation is a big red flag emblazoned with balls of azure. OP can do better, especially since this just fell into his lap with little or no effort. Jumping through her hoops stinks of desperation, and desperation makes the panties uncrackable. This was the only …
/r/seduction23/02/11 11:53 PM
1

It's not your lack of experience holding you back. It's your self-limiting--and false--beliefs holding you back. The only way to get experience is to get experience. Go out there and keep trying. You might not "win" a lot at first, but I guarantee you'l learn what works and what doesn't. Patience, grasshopper.
/r/seduction23/02/11 09:31 PM
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It's the worst kind of shit-test: a status-check, are-you-rich-enough test. Why should my job affect her attraction to me if she's not a gold digger? By the way, for guys who actually have high-status jobs, it's even more important to deflect this so you don't come across as a guy who relies on his job title or money to get laid. Your job shouldn't matter. Act that way.
/r/seduction21/02/11 03:29 PM
1

INTJpua wins the thread. He's just shown you how, as one other poster said, to revel in it.
/r/seduction07/02/11 10:58 PM
2

Bravo--you're making great progess. I'm really encouraged by the analysis you're giving of your own FR, and your apparent ability to make the right moves at the right time.
/r/seduction03/02/11 05:56 PM
17

I wonder how David feels now that he's been chumped in the newspaper.
/r/seduction02/02/11 02:08 PM
1

Let me be clear: I'm not saying walk in with this t-shirt but at some point you'll have the opportunity to tell her that you don't just fuck anything that walks. Yet.
/r/seduction02/02/11 04:22 AM
1

This. My version is "I didn't say you could have sex with me yet." Especially if she's 40 and you're younger, she'll fuck you to prop up her own self-esteem. Remember, you're the prize. (And if you see her again, never ever mention her age. She's already defensive enough about it.)
/r/seduction01/02/11 09:07 PM
1

So you live with your parents. Own that shit, get her over, and make sure your parents respect your privacy.
/r/seduction01/02/11 08:53 PM
3

There is so much good shit in here I can't even begin to catalogue it. Congrats on your transformation so far. I sense a tiny bit of defensiveness about your inexperience. Reframe: you've just been very selective, and that's all you ever need to say. Don't worry, by the way, about the mechanics. If she likes you now it doesn't matter if you're a lousy lay the first time. Practice, practice, practice.
/r/seduction01/02/11 04:24 PM
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Now, are you free Friday night? Wrong. Try this: You: I'm going to [wherever] Friday night. There's room for one more. Her: Oh, I'm not sure, can I call you back? You: This offer expires at noon. Reserve your spot or it'll go to someone on the waiting list. And then stop answering her texts that don't confirm or deny her attendance.
/r/seduction31/01/11 03:18 AM
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Kino, kino. I know. But, it's incredibly awkward when they might be straight and it's in public setting. You can do better. I touch people all the time that I'm not trying to fuck: guys, ugly girls, wives of friends, lesbians, you name it. I've never had a guy get weird if I touched him on the shoulder. I've never had a girl get weird if I put my hand on my upper back while standing next to her in conversation. You can tell if your touch relaxes them or not. If not, retract. If it does, escalate…
/r/seduction31/01/11 03:11 AM
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Seduction is a long sequence of small moves, so the kiss seems like another small step in escalation. This part cannot be emphasized enough, or re-stated enough.
/r/seduction31/01/11 02:58 AM
1

So how'd it turn out?
/r/seduction31/01/11 02:52 AM
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Kino escalation? Isn't it just awkward as fuck? No. What the fuck are you afraid of? What is a legit reason to start touching someone? You're within touching distance when you're conversing with them, which you should be anyway. Look, I was out this afternoon at an event where I was sarging no one at all. Seriously, everyone female was either married or undesirable or both. shudder But no matter who I was talking to, I touched them. On the shoulder, on the upper arm, on the back, whatever was wi…
/r/seduction31/01/11 02:38 AM
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If I may gently suggest to you that this is not a Seddit problem… you obviously were damaged by this girl and may even need therapy. What about her is still causing these feelings? Did you not get closure? Did she provide you something no one has? Are you just out of your fucking tree? Gotaa figure all that out before you'll get better.
/r/seduction26/01/11 10:57 PM
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Understand that this is about her feelings, not her logic, and any attempt to use logic will fail. She wants to feel valued. You've been seeing each other for a month and sleeping together for at least part of that time. She wants to use exclusivity as a proxy for feeling valued and not simply used. Is there anything you can do, consistent with your desires, that can accomplish this? For example… maybe you can introduce her to your parents. As your "girlfriend." Show her, don't tell her, that sh…
/r/seduction26/01/11 06:32 PM
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Imagine if the field of seduction could be reduced to a science, carefully studied and tabulated to determine what factors were most important in your quest to land the woman you want. How much of the guesswork and uncertainty would blow away like so much litter, leaving only the tried and true, proven methods? There's good news. A professor at Arizona State University has done the research you need. His name is Robert Cialdini, and if you've ever studied marketing, persuasion, or psychology, yo…
/r/seduction26/01/11 05:50 PM
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An unsolicited follow-up strikes me as try-hard, and even if in response to her asking, needs a solid story to back it up.
/r/seduction26/01/11 02:55 PM
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I love this question.
/r/seduction25/01/11 09:57 PM
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Don't knock Susie Haagen Dazs… girl's got flavor.
/r/seduction25/01/11 05:20 PM
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PUA's caused women worldwide to use shit-tests? Anyone who believes that has no concept of interpersonal relations, seduction, or history. I can tell you that girls have been shit-testing since Mystery was a virgin. PUA started as a tiny, cultish group a little before the turn of the century and didn't become widespread until well after Style wrote The Game. To say shit-tests are a reaction to PUA is giving yourselves waaaaaaaaaaay too much credit.
/r/seduction25/01/11 01:04 AM
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Shit-test. Agree & amplify by inviting 12 other along.
/r/seduction21/01/11 11:58 PM
1

Both this and Lanko's response below are excellent and can be modified for many similar situations.
/r/seduction21/01/11 11:43 PM
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Why the downvotes? This is pretty good advice after the first paragraph.
/r/seduction21/01/11 11:39 PM
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The issue is escaping from women who nearly corner you on the dance floor or drag you out there when you don't want to dance with them. "Thanks, but I'm not looking to dance right now." What kind of pussy is afraid to say no to a woman he doesn't want to dance with? Don't be that pussy. (Here's a Courage Wolf for those of you who are into that sort of thing.)
/r/seduction20/01/11 04:59 AM
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Haters gonna hatr. I count this as a no-holds-barred success. If you've got the balls to make this approach, imagine how well you're going to do with a real opener. BTW, I think this shock-and-awe opener is actually pretty good for anything less than a HB9. 100% #-close from the non-IHAB girls (amazingly enough, including the one who knew what you were up to) and I guarantee you made the day for every one of 'em. Congrats.
/r/seduction19/01/11 07:29 PM
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I agree. This is a cry for attention. In fact, you could even annouce that: "Gentlemen, this is a cry for help. These ladies are in desperate need of male attention."
/r/seduction18/01/11 04:11 PM
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The FAQ, linked to in the sidebar, answers this question first.
/r/seduction18/01/11 03:39 PM
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In short all I am mainly getting at here is that Wygant talks about connecting with women and everyone on here uses it to fuck them and then end the connection. Skewed. I'm curious if you looked at the people who actually refer to Wygant's materials. As you do, I'm sure you'll notice that most of the people who are posting field reports about rapid closes are not those people; and I wonder if you'd also notice that most of the people who like Wygant are really in it for exactly the reason you sa…
/r/seduction18/01/11 03:36 PM
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I'm bipolar You could so easily make a joke out of this: "So, are you bi-curious?" If you reveal it that way, I'm curious as to what you might find.
/r/seduction18/01/11 03:12 PM
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This is why it's so important to practice, practice, practice. If these habits are ingrained, they will carry you through when you meet someone really special even though you're secretply swooning and your heart is in your throat. Because it happens. Be ready, sedditors.
/r/seduction18/01/11 02:36 PM
1

"I enjoy spending time with you, blah blah blah." Again: Oh, Gods no. Who's the prize in this interaction?
/r/seduction17/01/11 10:59 PM
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sending a frank email in a couple days asking directly if she's interested. DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT do this. You may as well send her an email with the subject line: "Please Reject Me." Don't wonder if she's interested—make her interested.
/r/seduction17/01/11 10:57 PM
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So, any suggestions on how to communicate one's feelings and attraction in this type of situation? DANGER! DANGER! You're falling into a classic trap and things will not end well. The question you should be asking is: Can I remotely build up her attraction for me, and, If so, how? From where I stand, you're in grave danger of starting the dreaded supplication-oneitis-eternal friendzone spiral. Right now you're focused on your needs—the emotional need to confess your attraction to her—rather than…
/r/seduction17/01/11 10:37 PM
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Congrats on your first steps. Many more to come. The foundation of most AA is a false premise: chatting up stangers seems "creepy." If i talk to her, she'll hate me, or call the police, or punch me or something. Of course, this is ridiculous. I think you haven't yet conquered your AA so here's a way to take it on: promise yourself that you are just CURIOUS about how people react when strangers chat them up. Look it as a data-gathering experiment. And don't worry so much about what to say--in tru…
/r/seduction17/01/11 01:32 PM
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Mock marriage proposal. REALLY ham it up. Demand she buy you a drink as an engagement present. This is for newly-met flirting of course. Already had sex? Of course you like her.
/r/seduction17/01/11 12:01 PM
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Sounds like you may have been giving relationship vibes early, and then, in the girls' eyes, let your end drop. You probably need to do a better job managing lulls--before you leave for break, for example, make specific plans--like, say a concert--for your return. Or figure out what these girls had in common and screen it out.
/r/seduction17/01/11 11:55 AM
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They're all at UoC studying, not getting laid.
/r/seduction17/01/11 12:53 AM
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No worries. You're about to discover just how many other options you have. Congrats.
/r/seduction17/01/11 12:42 AM
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I agree with this advice; tell her you're not into casual sex and you can't see her again unless she agrees to respect your boundaries. There's a lot of presupposition built into that statment that will work as powerful voodoo.
/r/seduction15/01/11 10:10 PM
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Thanks for the FR. I really like the way you handled this, and I think the escalation question is not as black and white as others see it. You need to escalate enough that she sees you as a potenial romantic interest, not as a friend. Depending on your prior history with her, she may already see you that way. What's her concern with sex too soon? Has she gotten burned before? Maybe next time you should turn the tables around it on her--one thing about girl-on-girl seduction is that it's often le…
/r/seduction15/01/11 09:48 PM
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This isn't a FR.
/r/seduction15/01/11 10:13 AM
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She’s not attracted to this 6′8″, good-looking MMA fighter because he is too nice. Wow. Just wow.
/r/seduction15/01/11 10:12 AM
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But seeing as she probably will not be single for very long time I have this sense of urgency. Try humping her leg like a dog. That will get her attention, relieve your urgency, and won't turn her off any more than your "urgency" will.
/r/seduction13/01/11 10:29 PM
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I don't know how I'd interact with her after she flaked on me. As if it didn't bother you in the slightest. Avoiding her shop is the opposite of that.
/r/seduction13/01/11 10:28 PM
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the second she begins to speak I think to myself "I don't really care about trying to maintain conversation with this person." To me, this sounds like it's about you, not about them—and it's not so much about indifference as it is fear posing as indifference. Set your self a goal of trying to find out at least one interesting thing about a person you're talking to. Hell, make it an exercise: go to a public place, do cold approaches, and just ask them to tell them something interesting about them…
/r/seduction13/01/11 10:24 PM
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I like the last point that Style makes, and that Tim confirms: use the minimum effective effort (something Tim, in his new books, calls the "Minimum Effective Dose" for diet/medical issues) in order to accomplish your goals. There are two very important reasons for this: First, if the woman is doing the work to make things happen with you, she's invested in the process. It's both a pre-screening and a lock-in. If she;'s willing to do that work, she's an excellent candidate for you, and once she …
/r/seduction13/01/11 10:14 PM
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I think you partially misunderstand the DHV concept. Rock climbing is one aspect of higher value, but if it's your only one, you've got much bigger porblems than pickup. Sure yhere are other ways in which you, as a person, have value, and devloping your own understanding of these will benefit your pickup inside and outside the rock climbing gym.
/r/seduction13/01/11 07:26 PM
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need help with a girl Sigh If you have to ask, it's too late. Did you read the FAQ?
/r/seduction12/01/11 10:35 PM
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There's a difference between not sleeping with a guy in 6 weeks and kissing him once in 6 weeks. If she was romantically interested and an otherwise healthy adult they'd have done something even if not penis-in-vagina sex. He's either generated NO interest from her or she's completely unready, at the age of 25, to have a romantic relationship.
/r/seduction12/01/11 03:21 PM
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Classify me as one of the impatient ones. I've figured out that NLP is a mixed bag, some of which works, some of which is bunk, and some of which ought to work if I can just get the implementation right. The internal representation and anchoring stuff can be very useful for managing inner game. It seems to reason that it could be used to generate the desired states in other people if i could just figure out how to deploy it successfully. All my experimentation so far has failed to produce worthw…
/r/seduction12/01/11 01:15 PM
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If you're a guy, posting anything on facebook is a DLV. You're like my brother from another mother. Just without the penis part.
/r/seduction11/01/11 09:33 PM
1

I tell the blond you"you must be the alpha female and your friend must be the shy one"… She mentions she is from the midwest. I start to guess where from - better than asking. I also guess she works at a Non-Profit - once again better than asking - she is a lawyer at a union. Nice. Very Juggler of you. How'd you guess non-profit?
/r/seduction11/01/11 09:29 PM
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High value women want men who LEAD them, not men who will suck face for 90 minutes and then ask for a phone number. I'm going to get this tattooed on my ass so that I never forget it. :)
/r/seduction11/01/11 09:22 PM
1

I'd be interested to see a post or FR on your experiences with NLP. Most of Seddit doesn't really talk about it at all.
/r/seduction11/01/11 09:12 PM
1

Your problem is one of calibration. You need to be able to have a basic read on how your words are impacting the other person's emotionak state. If you're boring them, you've failed.
/r/seduction11/01/11 02:40 PM
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Don't think about it, just try it. My experience is that eeye contact works for everyone.
/r/seduction11/01/11 02:31 PM
1

A little Google follow-up on my previous link. This one, I think, gives some even better tips on how to create a strong feeling of connection with the person you're engaging.
/r/seduction11/01/11 03:20 AM
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I find that I memorize concepts really easily. But I cannot for the life of me remember details and exact wording. Everyone learns differently. Ultimately, it doesn't matter: you're a big-picture guy so you'll easily understand that everything you do is meant to create a feeling and the vast majority of the work is done non-verbally. It matters a lot less what you say and a lot more how you say it and how you act before and after you say it. As I said earlier, the canned routines are mostly cons…
/r/seduction11/01/11 02:54 AM
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It would be. If only there were something in the sidebar.
/r/seduction10/01/11 07:01 PM
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But, even though routines can be successful, they personally creep me the fuck out. Memorizing what to say to girls is not natural at all and the mechanical/robotical factor where one can just spout off lines and get a chick into bed because of manipulation is just weird. The consensus here on Seddit is that canned routines are just a crutch until you develop your own style and see what works for you—and some people don't need them at all. But think of it this way: almost all social interaction …
/r/seduction10/01/11 07:00 PM
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It's a hard stigma to get over when i'm actually seriously interested. Is it less difficult when you're not "seriously interested"? (And if so, you'd better figure out why.) But, as others have said, this is a shit-test. I'm of the "agree & amplify" school for shit-tests. Take her supposition, and run with it to its extreme: "So why do you want me to be a player? What about players turns you on?" This subtly turns the tables on her with a presupposition. You implicitly agree (yeah, I'm a player)…
/r/seduction10/01/11 06:41 PM
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If this was a girl I was running game on, I'd say something like: "Oh, that's a relief. I'm not looking to date anyone. Do you know any dirty girls who are looking for a night of raw animal passion?" It sounds like this girl came at you out of nowhere. GFTOW and show her you're not a nice guy after all.
/r/seduction10/01/11 02:01 PM
1

High school? Oh, man, just relax. Even knowing that seddit exists puts you so far ahead of the game. Patience, grasshopper.
/r/seduction08/01/11 06:18 PM
1

I came here to say you should move her drunken ass to your couch. Glad to hear you figuted that out for yourself. Never let a girl sleep in your bed unless she's putting out.
/r/seduction08/01/11 06:12 PM
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All the time, in all different settings. Non-romantic (social and professional) benefits flow freely. Look up the TALK to Everyone and Touch Everyone You Talk To threads, as well as Cheddarchexmix's thtead on his results from applying those.
/r/seduction08/01/11 05:20 PM
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Physiology impacts psychology. Rest up, eat right, and your mindset will vastly improve.
/r/seduction08/01/11 04:39 PM
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Congrats, and you're welcome. FRs encouraged.
/r/seduction08/01/11 04:37 PM
1

You've exposed my secret weapon--roofies. Did someone let /b/ out for recess?
/r/seduction08/01/11 04:35 PM
0

You have nothing to teach me though. You're absolutely right about that.
/r/seduction08/01/11 03:54 PM
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I have no doubt of that.
/r/seduction08/01/11 03:53 PM
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Depends on the delivery, as with all things seduction.
/r/seduction08/01/11 02:48 PM
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You'd be surprised at how well it works. And now that I've reviewed your comment history, I can understand why. Thanks for showing us who you really are. If you'd like to learn, then stay. If not, take your braggadocio elsewhere.
/r/seduction08/01/11 02:47 PM
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"You haven't earned that yet."
/r/seduction07/01/11 10:45 PM
1

So she can text you when she's with family, but can't call?
/r/seduction07/01/11 05:36 PM
1

"I can't text while I'm driving." "I can't text during class." "I can't text during a board meeting." Not in one of those? Then call her and let her hear your confident, sexy voice.
/r/seduction06/01/11 07:29 PM
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Bookmarked, upvoted. Keep up with the FR's. What's your biggest challenge right now?
/r/seduction05/01/11 03:37 PM
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My first piece of advice: when you read the FAQ and other sidebar materials, any questions you had you can ask here. My second piece of advice is to practice what you've read here.
/r/seduction02/01/11 06:58 PM
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This is your biggest problem. Almost no one, especially in a club, minds "intro" kino like shoulder and arm touches. Take a mission getting comfortable doing just that. Practice TTE and TEYTT. (Touch everyone… ) I think if you notice you much other people touch each other, and how awkward it is when you avoid contact, you'l get more confortable with basic kino. Once you're there, some escalatio becomes almost natural. Try it and see.
/r/seduction02/01/11 06:05 PM
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What you want to know may not keep you in the set long enough to get to knoe her. There's a Juggler video that Lesbian PUA linked to a while back. If you must resort to questions… and really, you need not… ask big, sweeping ones with big answers, not one-word answers. Or simply make statements that imply questions, which is a bit more nuanced and alpha than interrogation. Compare: "where are you from?" To "you remind me of a girl I knew from Hoboken." Advanced: "girls from Hoboken are trouble." …
/r/seduction02/01/11 05:38 PM
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Develop your conversational skills. Cheddar has a great post around here somewhere about building your own personal arsenal of stories to deploy as needed. But anyone smart enough to be on Reddit should be able to carry on a conversation without resorting to job interview questions.
/r/seduction02/01/11 04:24 PM
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I disagree about laying down the law. If anything, it would make this girl more agressive. The best way to handle it is to make her think she still has a chance with you if she tones it down. Let slip how agressive or even "slutty" girls are a turn off for you. Give her compliance tests. And let her know when she fails. Imply that you're using the other girl to make her jealous. Just shutting her down won't work. You need to bend this girl to your will.
/r/seduction02/01/11 02:26 PM
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They'l be able to tell by the tingling of their vaginas, not because of seddit.
/r/seduction02/01/11 01:31 PM
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This is what you need to learn. Don't do job interviews. Have something interesting to say or talk about before you go out for the night.
/r/seduction02/01/11 01:24 PM
1

I'm really happy for you. Congrats on braking the hardest barrier. Have you posted an FR yet?
/r/seduction01/01/11 07:01 PM
1

OK, I'll buy that.
/r/seduction01/01/11 04:35 AM
3

"Come here often?" I like this as a more advanced move; delivered with a hint of irony it can actually develop nicely.
/r/seduction01/01/11 04:33 AM
1

This is great. Thanks for putting all this together. All the content is rock-fucking solid. "honey bunny" Um… for realz?
/r/seduction01/01/11 02:18 AM
1

AFC all-star showcase My new throwaway seddit account. Or, heavy metal band. I can't decide.
/r/seduction31/12/10 10:43 PM
1

Delightful White has a nice write-up on openers. I'm a big fan of the "game everyone" method—including "talk to everyone" and "touch (kino) everyone you talk to." This draws heavily on Dave Wygant. One of the biggest gaps I see in the current Seddit write-up is basic conversational skills—how to keep the convo going, but more importantly, going in the right direction by directing conversation to meet your goals of attracting her. (Some Juggler method here) Of course, then there's kino—something …
/r/seduction31/12/10 09:49 PM
1

Stop trying to be Mystery and just, for heaven's sake, be you. This from a girl named Merlin?
/r/seduction31/12/10 09:00 PM
2

Roosh's opinion on Jezebel It might be predictable, but I guarantee it will make you laugh your ass off.
/r/seduction31/12/10 08:28 PM
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Upvoted. Would upvote again.
/r/seduction31/12/10 08:18 PM
2

In any event, all single women owe it to themselves to look into this stuff, as depressing and disturbing as it is, so you can spot PUA guys and their techniques, and thus save yourself a lot of wasted time and heartbreak. …in the unlikely event that a guy with real options would want to pick up a Jezebel reader. FTFY, TwirlyGirl Oh, and the best part of TwirlyGirl's profile? TwirlyGirl has no friends.
/r/seduction31/12/10 08:13 PM
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She opens up about sexual fantasies You may have been able to recover at this point. Also there's probably a time when you could have said, "What you really need right now is a rebound to cheer you up."
/r/seduction31/12/10 07:58 PM
2

Well done. No flaws in this one—except being sick for a week, ya big pussy. Thanks for the FR.
/r/seduction31/12/10 07:55 PM
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don't go out of your way to disqualify, I disagree. Every girl should face an obstacle she needs to overcome to get with you. It makes it a challenge that motivates her.
/r/seduction31/12/10 06:12 PM
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Not sure why this is getting downvoted. It's pretty much spot-on.
/r/seduction31/12/10 06:05 PM
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I'm still nervous as hell. Any advice and/or words of encouragement? Yes. Exactly what the fuck are you afraid of? Really sit down and think about it and take it all the way to its logical conclusion. And then ask yourself: so what? So what if I say "Hi" to a girl and she ignores me? So what if I ask a girl what her NY resolutions are and she says "To avoid dweebs like you"? So what if a girl sees you approaching, looks you up and down, and laughs in your face before you even open your mouth? So…
/r/seduction30/12/10 09:32 PM
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Saved. There's a lot of gold in this one that I'll have to really sort through when I have more time.
/r/seduction30/12/10 08:51 PM
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Nice job. Looks like you're about to level up. I liked where you told her "don't worry, I'm getting your number too"
/r/seduction29/12/10 07:20 PM
2

That's just how it's supposed to work. Congrats and many happy returns.
/r/seduction29/12/10 06:41 PM
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Do you respond better to canned material or "natural" seduction style? Have you ever read Cyrano de Bergerac? What facets of our date would you most like to see in the FR I'll be posting later? How do I tell you how much I like you? There's this girl I like. How do I get her?
/r/seduction29/12/10 06:00 PM
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crash and fucking burn There was no crash and burn here. But your title betrays a massive flaw with your inner game. Worry less about this "9" and more about your perception of yourself and your efforts. Oh, and by the way… see that thing underneath the pussy? Looks like a pedestal. Better get rid of that.
/r/seduction29/12/10 05:20 AM
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Anyway, how do I go about expressing interest in her friends, if I want to date them? In other words, what way should I handle this aspect of my life? I mean, if a guy knows one girl, isn't he "in" with the rest of them? Eh. You need to make your own friends in this new city. Seriously, it's like you haven't read shit from this subreddit. Half of the advice here is how to meet people who don't already have preconceived notions of who you are. For what it's worth, I was in this situation once. I …
/r/seduction29/12/10 04:57 AM
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Although the approach was probably a failure, I gained more confidence and it wasn't really that bad at all. Not every girl you approach is going to reach for your zipper and blow you in the middle of the mall. That only happens when you get to the intermediate level. Thanks for the FR—keep 'em coming.
/r/seduction29/12/10 04:51 AM
1

girl's father actually opens me with a random comment about the Miami Heat/LA Lakers game this afternoon. If he hadn't, then surely you would have opened him (perhaps with a high-five?) to open the set. a really unique #-close this morning while at the airport. It's not that exciting, but it's something different. When I first read this, I mis-read "#" for "f" and thought it was going to be a very unique airport close. Still, nice job. The important part of what happened here is the "Smile and t…
/r/seduction29/12/10 04:25 AM
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I'll post a FR next time I'm out here, let you all know if anything comes of these #'s. Flakes happen, especially if you're just starting and you're out of your geographic element. Don't wait until Tucson for your next FR.
/r/seduction29/12/10 04:13 AM
1

I confess: once, in my AFC days, I ordered a girl flowers just before our third date, so they would arrive at her workplace the next day. They arrived after we slept together, and I was truthfully able to tell her I ordered them before. Best of both worlds.
/r/seduction29/12/10 03:13 AM
1

Your problem is you're having conversations by text. Next time she does that, say to her, "This is a conversation that needs to be had in person. Meet me here at time." Don't give her conversation if all she wants to do is text. She's not stubborn, you're just doing it wrong.
/r/seduction29/12/10 12:08 AM
1

I suggest Toastmasters. I've never tried it myself, but my weaknesses lie elsewhere.
/r/seduction28/12/10 11:59 PM
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This stuff is far too serious to joke about, McCreepy. We're saving lives out there.
/r/seduction28/12/10 11:56 PM
2

So if I brought flowers into your bar instead, you'd sleep with me? Snide aside, you see men and women in action on a daily basis. What works and what doesn't?
/r/seduction28/12/10 11:50 PM
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If she sleeps with me, I'd totally send her flowers. It's not the services she provides, it's the gesture.
/r/seduction28/12/10 11:47 PM
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Nice job; thanks for the FR. Looks like you're making good progress. Anytime a woman offers to buy you a drink and then invites you to the dance floor, she's interested, boyfriend or not. Maybe she's interested in a backup plan in case the boyfriend doesn't work out. you could be that backup plan. As far as the Dawn/Amanda setup, the two things I'd be worried about are: You haven't seen a picture of her—she could be an ogre despite Horny Old Guy's input. You could come across looking desperate. …
/r/seduction28/12/10 11:44 PM
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I've seen examples from the PUA community where this type of extreme "direct game" works but it's really fairly advanced. That being said, why not try it and tell us how it works?
/r/seduction28/12/10 04:33 PM
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That really sucks. Sorry to hear.
/r/seduction28/12/10 04:21 PM
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Then it sounds like you're doing everything you need to be doing. Good luck with this one.
/r/seduction28/12/10 04:01 PM
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we might ought to have one more bestof type post like this that is the "seddit method" I love this idea so much that I might marry it and forsake all other ideas. Let me know how I can help.
/r/seduction28/12/10 03:32 PM
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You da man. Thanks for putting this together. Two posts and one under-read comment of mine I'd like to suggest as supplemental reading: Text game: How to improve How Do I Show Her How I Feel About Her? How Do I Get THAT Girl? …mainly because they answer some frequently-noobed questions.
/r/seduction28/12/10 02:16 AM
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I'm not going to have sex with you. I think I need to use this a whole lot more often than I do. It kills every time—whenever I tell a girl she has to sleep on the couch, that's the night she's attacking me. I like to follow the line up with "You haven't earned it yet." 110% of the time they ask: "Oh? And how do I earn it?" There are about 18 trillion different winning responses to this.
/r/seduction28/12/10 02:09 AM
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: "I LIKE YOU TOO MUCH TO HAVE SEX TONIGHT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT FOR A LONG TIME." I respond with a smile, but I don't really know what to make of it. "You haven't earned sex with me yet. It might take you a very long time indeed." This was a girl who was lonely on Christmas and used you for companionship by letting you think you might have sex with her, especially if she was raving about her BJ skills. Her advantage over you right now is that she seems to be your only current potential supp…
/r/seduction28/12/10 02:02 AM
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I came here to post this… even if I didn't know who said it first.
/r/seduction23/12/10 10:56 PM
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Love the FR. This is how it's meant to be done, and when I'm at my best, I do it a lot like this.
/r/seduction23/12/10 10:30 PM
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"Coming out on top" means not caring what they think. DHV by saying hi, make small talk, be friendly and happy, and then go live the rest of your life. It could also mean admitting your sexuality to the guy who's on bottom.
/r/seduction23/12/10 10:10 PM
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Oh, this girl's a winner. Put a ring on that girl. Right after you read the sidebar, go out and fuck ten—no, twenty, no, a hundred—other women first, so you can realize exactly how much better you can get if you only try.
/r/seduction23/12/10 07:59 PM
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I've been waiting for this FR and you didn't disappoint. I am really not feeling the mania for opening I usually do, I am turning down sets I want to open. What is wrong with me? I am better than this, I thought. But these sets are not tonight's target. They are at Club V. That's your problem so far in this FR. You've set up the expectations for the other club, so you won't commit to an opener here. [Uh oh, shit test. That sure came out of nowhere. I guess my ultra expensive jacket is making me …
/r/seduction23/12/10 05:48 PM
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You have two approaches here: direct game or indirect game. Direct game is where you come right out and say something like: "I noticed you and wanted to come meet you." You're directly expressing your interest, and you rapidly seek to # close for a later date. This obviously takes a high degree of genuine confidence to pull off and to withstand the high likelihood that you're not going to get the number. Indirect game, by contrast, allows you some flexibility in your approach because you can use…
/r/seduction23/12/10 05:03 PM
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"You're such a dick." Agree and amplify: "You were supposed to draw that. Here, let me show you what a dick looks like… " and then draw one. Since, you know, it's Pictionary.
/r/seduction23/12/10 04:34 AM
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Hi, marvinlevoneast. We're Seddit. Pleased to make your acquaintance. It seems like you've never met us before… please read all the sidebar materials and go back and read some of the previous posts about "How do I get this girl?"—all of which, in essence, explain that you don't. You develop the skills to get girls, in general, that you meet who don't already think of you as the AFC friend they're not really interested in, but are a fresh slate you can write your name on in big, bold letters. The…
/r/seduction23/12/10 04:26 AM
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I'm curious to see if anyone else in Seddit uses any NLP techniques, especially for anything other than inner game. I've known about NLP for years, but I've never been able to really feel like I could use it for anything external. I would write it off entirely, but I've recently seen some of Derren Brown's videos where he uses—or pretends to use—NLP techniques for some amazing displays of personal persuasion. I found a blog post linking to several. Anyone?
/r/seduction23/12/10 04:16 AM
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She says yes, but only if I give her one first. So I do. Then she gives me one, awesome This is not a target, right? If she were a target for you, this would have been a failed shit-test. But since this girl is a friend you're not looking to score with, jointly raising the sexual vibe of the entire room—while at the same time generating some pre-selection social proof for yourself—is a great approach to stumble into. Everyone else should remember this: female wings can help you escalate the sexu…
/r/seduction23/12/10 04:10 AM
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Starts a slow clap Nice job. In reading, it seems like the key was your detachment from the outcome: She was a lost cause as I had fucked it up hard enough back in high school for her not to want me so I threw out bold texts at what I considered a long fuse to see how she would respond just so I didnt waste stupid texts on someone I ACTUALLY had a chance with Even if you already thought the cause was lost—you didn't care what happened except from a purely experimental viewpoint. And that, in my …
/r/seduction23/12/10 04:05 AM
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Juggler says that escalation itslef is interesting, and he's right. But he's talking about escalation of the intimacy of the relationship… having more insight as to who each of you are as people. Your job is to ask big picture questions, figure out what she cares about, and why. Listen for specific words that she uses or re-uses and incoporate those topics into your conversation.
/r/seduction21/12/10 02:24 PM
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Then we agree.
/r/seduction20/12/10 12:46 PM
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Why was the friend cockblocking? Did she want you for herself; did she think you were not good enough for her friend; or did she want to avoid being the only one who didn't hook up that night? You don't really give a lot of detail about the relationship between these two—probably because you have no idea. But no matter her motive, the solution is the same for all three: game the friend, too. Make it so they both want you and are competing for your affection. Then, instead of pulling the target a…
/r/seduction19/12/10 11:29 PM
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"So what's going on with your love life?" You're a busy man with lots of plans, right? If so, that's your answer. If not… that's still your answer. You're in demand, make sure your female friends know it.
/r/seduction19/12/10 11:25 PM
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"Okay, so you conned me all the way to bed just so you could drop this on me? Well have a good night!" A better response would have been: "This probably isn't going to work out, then. I'm not looking for a girlfriend right now."
/r/seduction19/12/10 11:06 PM
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I was going to respond to OP, but this says it better than anything I wrote, and it's exactly correct.
/r/seduction19/12/10 11:04 PM
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Nice FR. The challenge for me was to find the right time to kino it up after the initial hug, she was right next to me, but I couldn't figure out WHEN to do it in such a way that it would feel natural to both of us. Watch this. The short answer is, kino early, kino often. You should be touching her on the arm, shoulder, and hands right away, and as the conversation progresses, escalate to more intimate kino throughout the evening. She on the other hand was naturally touching my leg with her hand…
/r/seduction19/12/10 05:39 AM
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You're going about this the wrong way. Pull your friend aside, tell him that he's got to get control of his girl situation, because she's sending signals that you don't want and have not reciprocated. And you're worried about it interfering with your friendship. He'll take care of it, or have no one but himself to blame. Another tactic you could try is to tell a story in her presence about the last time a girl cheated on you, and what low esteem you have for someone who would step out on her man…
/r/seduction19/12/10 05:15 AM
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If guys are giving you this line in bars then you're doing it wrong. (Shit doesn't have to be creative to work. That's the only criterion I care about.)
/r/seduction18/12/10 09:35 PM
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About 3 hours ago. How about you?
/r/seduction18/12/10 08:58 PM
2

"I wish girls wouldn't treat me like I'm just a piece of meat. There's a person inside this handsome exterior!"
/r/seduction17/12/10 05:55 PM
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Would you answer them directly or be more evasive. Neither. I would respond with an absurd, clearly facetious response, for laughs. "I'm a lion tamer. I tried training tigers once, but after Seigfried got eaten I'm sticking strictly to lions." Eventually I'll fess up to what I do—I'm a professional, in the service industry, with a relatively high-status job (which is one of the reasons I don't come right out with it.) So I'll say "I help BLANK do BLANK." It's a lot more interesting to say "I'm t…
/r/seduction17/12/10 05:53 PM
1

Don't forget to follow up with the coup de grace: "It's not you, it's me."
/r/seduction17/12/10 05:45 PM
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You say you're "not sure where to go from here." I would recommend a couple of things: Focus on a couple weeks (or more) of TTE. You say you're developing some comfort there—make it a part of who you are. Next, practice "Touch everyone you talk to." I t might seem awkward at first but once you develop the habit it's gold. These two steps will provide a massive jump-start to your game, to the point where you'll start to realize exactly what you need to work on next.
/r/seduction17/12/10 05:38 PM
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At least half of these are straight out of The Game. And they're less DQ'ing than old-fashioned (and in my view, obsolete) negs. Disqualification is more like what it sounds like—for whatever reason, this girl is not eligible for your affection. She's too tall, too high-maintenance, too popular, too flirty, too drunk… any old excuse will do. One of the best ones is a line Mystery used to use—"We could never be together. We're too much alike." It's non-judgmental, more of a chemistry comment real…
/r/seduction17/12/10 04:11 AM
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There's something wrong with your game. It's impossible to tell what it is without a detailed FR, but you're not building enough of a foundation before the final moments. Also, I'd be curious to know your age and that of the women you're with.
/r/seduction17/12/10 03:56 AM
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Welcome! Glad you're learning stuff, and I'm interested in your future contributions.
/r/seduction16/12/10 02:45 PM
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Two of my favorite qualities in a FR: first-timer and lots of detail. (Even if it does read like an algebra problem with all the variables) Go back and re-read what you wrote. Notice where you said YOUR behavior or HER behavior changed and why. I think you'll find some correct causation and maybe some incorrect assumptions.
/r/seduction16/12/10 02:42 PM
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When I was 18, I was in amazing physical shape, and much better-looking than I ever realized. But I was also enough of a nerd that I lacked self-confidence to such a degree that I repelled girls who should have been beating down doors to get to me. I only wish I had discovered this stuff back then, but I didn't. Now that I have, I use the techniques to my benefit not only romantically but socially and professionally. I'm no longer the lean mean fucking machine I was when I was 18, but I clean up…
/r/seduction15/12/10 11:57 PM
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Stop being afraid. It means you're too attached to your outcome with this girl. If you have an attitude of abundance, meaning that you know you could pick up girls like this any time you want—or at least, most of the time—then you'll stop worrying about looking needy and clingy, and you won't look needy or clingy.
/r/seduction15/12/10 06:45 PM
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The less you give, the more they're interested. How to convey this when in fact, you are the one approching? For me, it seems totally contradictory. I think you both misunderstood the "hot girl" thread and the basics here of how to approach. It's not true that "less attention" makes them more interested—it's true that less desire makes you more interesting. In other words, your approach must be tempered with a disqualification. "I could never date someone from [her hometown]. Girls from there ar…
/r/seduction15/12/10 06:43 PM
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Agreed. If you're having boring conversations with everyone, you're doing it wrong. But I'll make a point here that Wayne "Juggler" Elise makes. It's what you say that's interesting. Escalation of the relationship itself is interesting. In this case, the very fact that you're conversing with the person, in a situation where you were not just a moment before, and where most people might not open a conversation, well, that fact alone is interesting. If that conversation further escalates the "rela…
/r/seduction15/12/10 06:35 PM
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I am a long time shy guy No. You are, or were, a person who sometimes experienced shyness. (See the difference?) But, this night, I said "nay, I shall conquer this uncomfortable air, not just for myself, but for my fellow dining companions, for posterity!" Fuck. Yes. You've discovered that TTE is one of the most powerful transformative techniques for anyone learning to improve their social interactions. After you feel like you're comfortable with this, you'll want to experiment with non-sexual k…
/r/seduction15/12/10 06:04 PM
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Your joke provokes an excellent question: What's the difference between influence and manipulation?
/r/seduction15/12/10 05:52 PM
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You don't have to pay. All you have to do is upload a document or two of your own. It can be anything you choose. I like uploading government-produced PDF's—they're copyright free and I don't give a shit about what's in them.
/r/seduction15/12/10 05:46 PM
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Don't forget: "What have you asked Santa for?" "Which list are you on, naughty or nice?"
/r/seduction15/12/10 05:44 PM
2

For a whole year? What's the longest you've been able to quit?
/r/seduction15/12/10 05:44 PM
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Affirm it by reframing it: Healthy lifestyles are awesome. I/a friend/a family member just lost a lot of weight with diet and exercise. You can segue into fad diets, favorite workouts, or damn near anything from there. Or avoid supplication by asking them to reveal their weaknesses: I love to exercise, but food is my weakness. What's your biggest challenge?
/r/seduction15/12/10 05:43 PM
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Oh man, I just noticed that quazzy has deleted his account - this post can no longer be edited! But a new, updated one could be posted and linked in the sidebar.
/r/seduction15/12/10 05:38 PM
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correcting the definition of AMOG, and it has yet to be corrected. It's correct, but incomplete. Also, I think we could do with an updated description of what this group is about. Awesome idea. Also, no offense, but that seddit wiki sucks and should probably be improved significantly or taken down. True. Finally, I'd love if some of us could get together and create and even better and updated "new to this subreddit" post. I think what we have is good, but why not make it awesome. Why not, indeed…
/r/seduction15/12/10 05:37 PM
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Just to make it clear—often it's useful to open a set by talking to the friend of the likely target, not the target herself. I use "target" in the sense of "goal" not in the sense of "aimed a weapon at." That would be the Annihilation method.
/r/seduction15/12/10 03:28 PM
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Took me a minute, but upboats for you.
/r/seduction13/12/10 05:18 PM
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You know, you're absolutely right, and I've done that in the past. My main point, though, was that supplication has a tendency to snowball. It's why "nice guys" get no respect.
/r/seduction13/12/10 02:38 PM
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Because I walked across the room to do it.
/r/seduction13/12/10 02:18 PM
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if you fuck it up So don't "fuck it up." As long as you're not ass-deep in AFC-style supplication, you're fine. She'll forgive you for showing interest, unless you're a dick about it. then awkward until one of you moves Not unless you were a dick. "Awkward"? Who cares?
/r/seduction13/12/10 03:51 AM
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For the love of christ never ever mention the dating site until AFTER the end of never. FTFY.
/r/seduction13/12/10 03:49 AM
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"Hi, I'm [name]" The girl I introduced myself to (and her boyfriend) told me later in the evening that my confidence in delivering that line blew her away. Then she told me she likes to swing. (She wasn't my target. Too bad.)
/r/seduction13/12/10 03:47 AM
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Back in my AFC days, I had a girl sleep over after we'd all had waaaaay too much to drink. In the middle of the night, a sound woke me up—she was squatting at the end of my bed, pissing on the carpet. In my confusion, I rolled over and went back to sleep. When I woke up, I vaguely remembered dreaming that she had pissed on my rug, but she didn't say anything, and neither did she. After she left, I went back in my bedroom and look at the carpet—there were little toilet paper crumbs where she had …
/r/seduction13/12/10 03:44 AM
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is this confusion or whatever it is a sign that i did it wrong? I don't think your kino is off, although your questioning to her—" I asked her in a casual fasion if she always watching tv while standing and she seemed confused."—seems like you're a little insecure. If she was bothered by you touching her, you'd know about it. It sounds to me like she was just moving around.
/r/seduction13/12/10 03:38 AM
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This: I was also astounded by how well kino works, And this. I was pretty much totally oblivious to how much women use it before I read PUA literature. Truth.
/r/seduction13/12/10 02:41 AM
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This: I was also astounded by how well kino works, And this. I was pretty much totally oblivious to how much women use it before I read PUA literature. Truth.
/r/seduction13/12/10 02:41 AM
2

"Alpha male other guy" has been in use since at least 2000 in the alt.seduction.fast newsgroup It's still in use on the original FastSeduction 101 Wiki. The Game defines it both ways in the glossary.
/r/seduction13/12/10 02:37 AM
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Am I just imagining things Yes. Game on.
/r/seduction13/12/10 02:26 AM
1

"Old enough that you can't keep up." Would probably work. Remember, sister, you're the prize.
/r/seduction12/12/10 11:03 AM
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But if so many guys do it, there must be some success.. Hardly. Lots of guys do shit that never works. After all, didn't you just get told that those girls never, ever call those numbers?
/r/seduction12/12/10 01:42 AM
2

Neil "Style" Strauss. Read The Game and then and only then go find a before & after picture of him.
/r/seduction12/12/10 01:35 AM
1

should have DQed her hard about the age thing This is what I was going to post.
/r/seduction12/12/10 01:31 AM
3

Seddit, I love you. You should never say this to a Seddit you haven't fucked yet. (Congrats. Very nice pair of FR's)
/r/seduction11/12/10 09:25 PM
2

I'm going to text her today to apologize for being too forward, Never. Never, never, never. You asked her out, you didn't fondle her in front of her dad. You should never be sorry about asking a girl out, unless you've decided you don't want to go out with her and you'd like her to reach the same conclusion.
/r/seduction11/12/10 04:40 PM
0

Help an AFC out? How do I get to the close with this? Before you step to the plate in the World Series, you'll want to have some batting practice first. Maybe even learn some hitting technique. Once you've developed some skill, then you can swing for the fences. (Baby steps, dude.)
/r/seduction11/12/10 03:08 AM
1

Always assume interest. Escalate to "no"—or to "yes." There is no "first move"—these is a smooth progression of escalation until you're fucking her or until she gives you an unequivocal rejection. The truth is… much of the time, she doesn't know she's interested until you make her interested in you. That's your job.
/r/seduction11/12/10 03:05 AM
3

The whole ordeal lasted no more than 5 minutes. Painful, wasn't it? :)
/r/seduction11/12/10 02:58 AM
2

If you invited me over I'd be like "Hell yes I'm getting laid!" She laughs After a minute . . Her: You should come over on Friday. Brief Pause Me: Sounds good. Nice.
/r/seduction11/12/10 02:55 AM
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While people are often most interested in talking about themselves, they're not often interested in talking about the parts of themselves that are the standard "resume" questions. Ever read a really well-done newspaper or magazine interview? They always try to dig for what really matters: 1) to the subject; or 2) to the readers, about the subject. Try to find out what someone's really passionate about, and ask them big picture questions about that. For example, if I was talking to Cheddar and I'…
/r/seduction11/12/10 02:24 AM
2

This is awesome. I wish I was rolling through Austin before you leave for Oz—you sounds like a great guy to have a beer with.
/r/seduction11/12/10 02:15 AM
2

TTE is full of win for all purposes, not just getting laid. While I haven't been invited to sing with the band, I've experienced numerous social and professional benefits just because I'm not afraid to talk to people when I'm out and about, whether it's for work or pleasure.
/r/seduction11/12/10 02:14 AM
2

This. Isolation is a key part of club/bar/party game. Any excuse, even a lame one, will do if you've been running your game properly. Also,don't just "hang out." Low value, low energy, low opportunity. Dance, play games, go on a quest for munchies, walk the dog… whatever.
/r/seduction09/12/10 10:49 PM
2

If used as a takeaway or part or a push-pull sequence, walking away can be a very useful technique. Experiment with it and report back!
/r/seduction09/12/10 10:40 PM
1

"out of the number of people you have slept with, where would you place me on your list?" The Most Recent. ETA: Oh, I missed the part where you hadn't spoken to her in months. This would be a lousy answer in those circumstances—but adjust accordingly. (Freakiest, Blondest, Most in Need of Reassurance… you get the idea.)
/r/seduction09/12/10 06:45 PM
0

I dress like a huge girly girly, In a frilly tent? but I am a huge sports fan I'm sensing a theme. Or perhaps it's just a figure of speech?
/r/seduction09/12/10 06:28 PM
2

It also sounds like he's not really sure what "PUA stuff" is.
/r/seduction09/12/10 06:26 PM
2

"power words" from their profile in the subject Although I'm pretty sure I know what you mean, could you elaborate a bit or give an example?
/r/seduction09/12/10 05:11 PM
1

is it ever a BAD policy to go for the first-date kiss? "Ever"? Well, maybe. Usually not. But in this case, I'd say there were two things going on. She may not have been ready for you to kiss her. Meaning, you hadn't progressed far enough along the attraction and kino escalation stages. If you do it right, you can see in her eyes when she's begging you to kiss her—and that's when you do. I find that some women have problems getting into a sexual state if there's to much "stuff" on their minds—lik…
/r/seduction09/12/10 04:55 PM
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started chatting me up, saying how amazed she was that I just went up there and did it like it was nothing. You opened with a bang. The benefits of this were immediate and massive. What can I do to not get caught off guard like that? Just remember that everything you do in the interaction has a purpose. You need to stay "on message" just a like a politician on TV. Remember that you don't need to be logical at al in this process—you can say, "Your worries about stuttering remind me of…" and then …
/r/seduction09/12/10 04:48 PM
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Nicely done. Congrats.
/r/seduction09/12/10 04:30 PM
1

No bars in your neighborhood at all? Really?
/r/seduction09/12/10 03:29 AM
1

This is /r/seduction not /r/daterape
/r/seduction09/12/10 03:26 AM
3

So why are you so butthurt? Are you dying to ask a question about a specific girl who's already blown you out, or are you the self-appointed protector of all the oneitis-inflamed AFC's who want us to help them get the girl who friendzoned them six years ago?
/r/seduction09/12/10 02:55 AM
1

Oh, snap.
/r/seduction08/12/10 06:26 PM
1

I agree that the problem is with your inner game. Unfortunately, you haven't told us enough about you to figure out why. That might not matter, though. These three obviously think you're in their league. Can you name ten reasons each of them is right?
/r/seduction08/12/10 06:17 PM
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You're not "living at home." You're "taking care of Mom." You don't have a crappy job, you're a student who's also working. Don't let these thing fuck up your inner game. Logistically, you'll need to make sure you either have privacy or an alternative venue. Logistics can impact your f-close rate, but if your inner game is in shape you should still get your share and that of the AFCs around you.
/r/seduction08/12/10 06:08 PM
2

The only time it was worth it was when I was a virgin too.
/r/seduction08/12/10 05:39 AM
2

The Force is strong in this one.
/r/seduction08/12/10 05:36 AM
1

Things I did badly… The main thing I plan to focus on is the correct logistics of my approach. I agree with your self-assessment. The great part is that you already know what you need to work on to improve. Things I did well: I would agree to these as well. Thanks for the FR.
/r/seduction07/12/10 04:59 AM
1

each set has an "opportunity cost" in that it ties you up with that set and prevents you from opening other potentially more beneficial sets. This. This is one thing I struggle with sometimes—when I'm in one set, I sometimes find myself looking over shoulders to see if there are other sets I'd like to open.
/r/seduction07/12/10 04:53 AM
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we ought to come to a consensus on using pirated materials… How do we feel about this? I'll leave the moral decision to each individual, but I will say that using pirated materials poses a small, but non-trivial risk of civil or criminal enforcement—something that not only has potentially severe individual consequences but also might reflect poorly on the Seddit community. My vote is that pirated material should not be officially sanctioned here on Seddit.
/r/seduction07/12/10 04:30 AM
3

Go back and read all the field reports "[fr]" that you can. Never once have I seen anyone mention getting busted for being part of the pickup community. Now, if' you're running canned game that you read in The Game you might run into that problem, but if you're keeping up with current thought her on Seddit and elsewhere you'll be fine.
/r/seduction07/12/10 04:08 AM
3

"You've kept me interested so far."
/r/seduction07/12/10 03:46 AM
1

Have you read ×The Game×? There's a chapter where Style, during a work-arranged interview, games Britney Spears and gets her phone number. In that light, it doesn't matter what frame they're in at the start if you are abke to create attraction during the interaction and have a legitimate professional reason to spend that time with them. If you begin professionally and generate some legitimate IOI's it may be game on. Just keep one eye on your professional reputation. Photographers are all bangin…
/r/seduction06/12/10 08:41 PM
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I'm wondering why you find a "5" tempting. You can defuse this by mentioning in passing that you never sleep with maried women. "Oh, New Hire is cute, but she's off-limits. Married."
/r/seduction06/12/10 04:54 PM
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Splitting hairs here: a "4" is by definition not an "HB". Otherwise, good progress. As for the shy girls, ask them "big" questions about something they're passionate about. (I remember one time in college I asked a girl what she liked doing when she wasn't in class. She said—she actually said—"Nothing." I ejected out of AFCdom and boredom.)
/r/seduction06/12/10 03:30 AM
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I'm glad you found where the adults go—you ought to have better luck there even if it is a dance club. You mentioned at one point that you're a runner and that running is "solitary." I'm a runner too, and I find it exactly the opposite. Yes, I run by myself a lot, but there's a very solid running community in my area who not only have regular group runs, but then go out afterwards for beer; most of us race regularly and hang out before and after; and of course you'll also get to know people at r…
/r/seduction06/12/10 03:26 AM
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Glad to see this FR—looks like a lot of progress later in the evening. A few things I'd armchair QB you on: "And I give a great foot massage." Even though it seems to have worked in this case, it borders on try-hard or supplication (implicit offer of a foot massage). Here there be dragons. then realize I'm not here to chat with the guys, Why not? It's a useful way to stay connected to the set and winning social proof without sitting around waiting for the girls to get back to you. Game the guys,…
/r/seduction06/12/10 03:22 AM
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[1] Same [2] girl? Seriously, if you don't want our advice, don't fucking ask for it. If she has a boyfriend, and keeps calling you "hot" when you're off work, she's looking at switching boyfriends. Odds are, she doesn't have a boyfriend. I think you're just looking for an excuse to sit at home and complain about how rejection makes your pussy hurt.
/r/seduction06/12/10 03:02 AM
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If I could upvote this twice, I would: one for the first part, and one for the second part. (Fortunately, there's the Save button.) Every AFC reading Seddit should be required to read section one before posting anything here. I'll just go ahead and repeat it: Interest is not an on/off switch. It has to be built up. No one is going to display interest if I don't show any in return. I've got to risk making a few mistakes if I ever want to learn There's a proper order to kino escalation that I was …
/r/seduction06/12/10 02:57 AM
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TL;DR: Fuck, The Game is Hard. Waaaaah. Mommy. Waaaah. I agree: at this point, you don't have any choice. Sounds to me like finding some wingmen may be very beneficial.
/r/seduction06/12/10 02:52 AM
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It's beta to think of him as a threat.
/r/seduction05/12/10 04:08 PM
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I'm not taking enough risks, true. But for the most part, I haven't needed to. I get plenty of openings with my moderate approach.
/r/seduction05/12/10 02:08 AM
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I've got one favorite bar—one of those we-serve-every-beer-made places in a new upscale mall right near a major college. There are always attractive women there and it's pretty much "home turf" for me now. Otherwise, I like meeting women through activities. There are lots of things going on in my town that attractive, interesting women do. Look for things on meetup.com or similar interest-group sites.
/r/seduction05/12/10 02:07 AM
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Assume interest. Continue escalating until you get definite feedback one way or the other: a definite "no" or a wet dick.
/r/seduction05/12/10 02:04 AM
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Who's giving you that feedback and what's specifically provoking it? It sounds like you may be coming across as cocky rather than confident. Frankly, if you're having positive interactions with people, -I'd rely on the feedback of what people do rather than what they say.
/r/seduction05/12/10 12:36 AM
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Boom. The best way to find out that simply starting conversations with people isn't all that scary is to start conversations with people. The worsy-case outcome is that they're not interested or even downright scornful. But so what? You'll never see them again. Risk it. The upside is SO worth it. I'll talk to damn near anyone if I'm out and about. The worst I've ever gotten is disinterest, never a drink thrown at me.
/r/seduction05/12/10 12:23 AM
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This should be obvious. Let him finish the "epic" story that he oversold and the girls wanted to hear. After he leaves the.m disappointed, work your own gane. He out-alpha'd you by exploiting your beta insecurities.
/r/seduction04/12/10 10:19 PM
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I went back a few days ago and read your older FRs. I really think what you need most is a change of venue. Your town and the bars in it aren't working, there's virtually no supply of appropriate women, and it's bumming you the fuck out. The venue change will also help you stay more positive, which will help your game. Bitches love smiley faces. :)
/r/seduction04/12/10 09:17 PM
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Comments like this are for losers. I don't believe in astrology, but i do believe in don't be a dick. You're a dick.
/r/seduction04/12/10 09:06 PM
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Either what ThrowawyPUA said or see my post: Agree & Amplify: "Abso- lutely darling, but I also like butchy-looking girls. Come here and give me a kiss."
/r/seduction04/12/10 08:31 PM
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Nice report; good first step. Here's a couple of places you can improve even further. I tell her that her karaoke songs were 'awesome' with a genuineness that can't be faked. Three things saved this from AFCdom. The response was genuine, not contrived. The compliment was not about her looks but about her singing. She's only a 6. Your compliments may be accurate, but you should develop the habit of making her earn them. When you're more advanced, you can break this rule for a reason—such as using…
/r/seduction04/12/10 08:28 PM
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She'll realize you're not "hanging out" right about the time you're fucking her.
/r/seduction03/12/10 06:17 PM
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You're already "in a relationship" with this girl. It's up to you how long it lasts and what course it takes. As to kiss courage, two things. One, kino. I had a friend in college who was always touching people he talked to. Lots of shoulder touches to empasize a point or capture attention. Even though i didn't know it at the time, that guy became my kino sensei. I touch EVERYONE now--and if you've read up on NLP anchors, you can think of dozens of ways to do it. Kino is usually not noticed if do…
/r/seduction02/12/10 10:42 PM
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You ever used to get that feeling in the center of your chest when a cute girl takes your breath away? That's how you will make her feel seconds before you kiss her. Because you will kiss her. Unless you just want to be her friend.
/r/seduction02/12/10 10:15 PM
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You don't "gauge" interest—you create it. see #1. Be less vague about what you want. Wear what you're comfortable in, is clean, and flatters your physique (or de-emphasizes your flaws.)
/r/seduction02/12/10 10:12 PM
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Clarification: make contact immediately for a meeting later. Also, don't stick the dick in crazy. Thanks for the FR.
/r/seduction02/12/10 10:09 PM
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If only there were a search function.
/r/seduction02/12/10 05:19 PM
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I would post more, but there aren't many places to meet lesbians. The only good club is just once a month It would seem to me that an excellent way to develop social proof and maximize your network would be to figure out a solution to this. Why are lesbians only "allowed" to club once a month? A party's where you make it a party—if a bunch of hot (or hot-ish, even) lesbians started making other places regular and known gatherings you'd be able to get out there more. I can imagine the email chain…
/r/seduction02/12/10 05:19 PM
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"I should have done this." I pull her in, kiss her, she pulls me into her, we make out. Everyone's staring at me, wondering why I'm standing on my chair cheering. You're going to remember that moment for the rest of your life—the moment you decided that AFC isn't good enough.
/r/seduction02/12/10 05:07 PM
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"Let's go talk to the pregnant women. You know they put out." /patchadams
/r/seduction01/12/10 06:28 PM
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too much ASD to overcome and claims she was on her period. The making out had zero resistance, but it took a lot of pressure to her any further. Unless her period is abnormally long, that issue will no longer be a problem. If you're not knocking boots by the end of the 3rd date, you'll know that she's not responding well to you—either because she's not a "third-date" kind of girl (but then she wouldn't have needed to use her period as an excuse) or because she's decided not to sleep with you.
/r/seduction30/11/10 06:47 PM
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Escalate to "no." (Or "Yes.") That's the only way you'll get a meaningful answer to this question.
/r/seduction30/11/10 05:30 PM
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lawyer, doctor... generally savvy, independent types. These women are attracted to men with status of their own. Just look around you in the real world for examples. High-powered female professionals don't marry dockworkers. The good news is that you are on track to achieving that status. You don't have it yet, but it sounds like you're on your way. You might want to consider meeting women of a comparable nascent status—law students, med students, and PhD candidates. Of course, you'll have a har…
/r/seduction29/11/10 09:26 PM
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I would only use self-deprecating humor in a way that negated the deprecation—sarcastically—and then only if I thought the target's sense of humor was attuned to that. Calibration is key. False modesty, not so much.
/r/seduction29/11/10 08:20 PM
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I love suits, I love ties even more. I feel like the shit when I'm wearing either. Frankly, you need no other excuse. Wear what makes you feel good. I'd love to show up in a shirt and tie but I'm concerned that it might come off as a bit too much especially for a coffee date at 4:30 pm. She's coming off work—aren't you? Do you wear suits and ties normally, or do you usually wear something less dressy? Again, I'll say that if you like to wear suit and tie, wear suit and tie. Weekend? Maybe you're…
/r/seduction29/11/10 08:15 PM
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Or, you could switch it up to Hatfields and McCoys.
/r/seduction29/11/10 06:16 PM
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