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| 44 | Basic principles of frame and consistency; why do RP men vilify women who date assholes? | Rant/Venting | Old_Pine_Tree | /r/TheRedPill | 21/08/14 07:59 PM |
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| 1 | "The ability of men to accept influence from women is really one of the most critical issues in a relationship"This is an invalid conclusion, at least from the snippet provided. I can think of numerous lurking variables, starting with the fact that agreeing with your partner is in no way linked to actually acting on it. Which is fucking hilarious coming from HBR since one of the things effective managers do is cultivate the impression their give a shit about the concerns of their employees while using that information to better frame what they were going to do in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/15 02:03 PM |
| 0 | Question for the RedPill: How can any normal, well adjusted person have a romantic, sexual, or even platonic relationship with a redpiller when "spousal rape" and "rape in a private space" should be legal, according to them?Of course I am against spousal rape. If someone doesn't consent to a sexual act, it is unethical regardless of the context. In the words of Dinesh from Silicon Valley, "Period. End of sentence." That said, I am also against someone having a claim against their partner's assets or earnings potential regardless of consent. Because even though the outcomes of sexual assault and theft are incomparable, the principle of consent and entitlement is exactly the same. What's good for the goose is good fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/15 01:55 PM |
| 1 | What do you think of a potential compulsory paternity test at birth?Compulsory paternity testing? No. But I would support some kind of provision where the mother must explicitly affirm paternity, and in the case of fraud where it is uncovered later by testing or an admission, the legal father may be absolved of his responsibilities if he chooses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/15 01:27 PM |
| 7 | This mgtow shreds Red pill thinkingSelf respect is almost entirely meaningless when you factor out the social context. Women and their sexual relevance are a huge part of that, hence it's 'gynocentric nature'. Now compare that to a 'movement' that chooses avoidance in the face of adversity. MGTOW shreds nothing except its own credibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/15 01:21 PM |
| 11 | Plate expects me to drop all plans.This shouldn't be too big of a concern for you if you are able to spin the situation into your frame and favour. One example of nearly an infinite amount: Her: "I'm gonna go home and shower and then you're coming over. I don't give a fuck if you're busy lol cancel it." You: "LOLz. There better be pizza and beer waiting for me or I'm walking right back out the door." | /r/askTRP | 30/01/15 02:21 AM |
| 2 | What is a woman's SMV?For me, physical attractiveness is the key piece of the puzzle - that opens the door. Whether or not I walk through it depends on character traits. Specific achievements are tertiary and at their best constitute perks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/15 02:09 AM |
| 1 | If you like the Ghostbusters movies, are you disappointed with the all-female casting of the new Ghostbusters movie? Is feminism to blame for the casting?I want to see an all-female cast doing a new movie, not women channeling an outdated male franchise. Female ghostbusters? Han Solo as a woman? I can't wait to see where this goes; I'm looking forward to the shit-show that will be Bilba Baggins and her adventures with Gandalfe~. Seriously, fuck, if I were a feminist I would be pissed that the modern, strong, independent woman is expected to buy into this crap. It's obvious pandering, the movie won't even be good, and any 'lessons' that could poss… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/15 01:34 AM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on this TwoX post?It might be real, might be not. It might be an accurate portrayal of the situation, might be not. Either way, it's not a reflection on me or my posting so I am pulling nothing even remotely constructive from it. At a meta level, it's proven to be a cathartic vent for the feminized members of a sub that are dying to trash TRP yet typically cannot because of heavy moderating. Yay for them, must feel good to validate and in-turn be validated in an echo chamber. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/15 01:08 AM |
| 1 | RPers, whats your origin story?I was already in my 30s when I discovered the sub. I saw a post somewhere - probably AskReddit - where people were shitting bricks over the sub, and since I like me some good drama I had to check it out. My initial reaction was confusion - I just assumed that the core RP tenets were what every man comes to learn about women after he's been in the dating game for a few years. I am still occasionally puzzled by the hype, which is why I assume a super-majority of anti-RP posters are under the age o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/15 12:59 AM |
| 8 | Having your cake and eating it tookisses I knew that would be popular with the sloooots. ;) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/15 05:27 PM |
| 17 | Having your cake and eating it tooRP men believe that our hypothetical slooooot has shot herself in the foot and ended up in a situation worse than what she initially envisioned, having to settle for the clown she's not really satisfied with out of necessity because her Facebook feed is making her unhappy and the city in which she lives has a bylaw restricting the number of cats she can own. We also believe that if beta chumps were given proper advice from the get-go, they might be able to cultivate the kind of relationships tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/15 05:17 PM |
| 4 | interesting thread where semi-ethical red piller argues with sociopath red pillers that you can be a good psychopathThe ideal man, regardless of pill, is one who recognizes there is a social cost to his actions. It is true that he does not assume responsibility for the actions of others, but he manages the effect of his own actions either out of empathy for others or mere principle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/15 04:58 PM |
| 2 | In 2014 what should people do regarding "marriage'?What is the ideal situation for an RP man? Sincerely, this is up to the individual man. The intent behind TRP is to inform on the process for achieving your goals, not necessarily for dictating the goals themselves. In other words, there is space in the community for married men, committed unmarried men, plate spinners, and MGTOW. Of course, this does not preclude individuals from trying to push their view as right or true, but it was be a mistake to treat an individual's values as canon. That b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/15 04:22 PM |
| 18 | Predisposed to betaWanting to share an emotional connection with another living creature, be it a woman, your friend, the homeless bum on the street, or your cat is not a beta quality. Whoring out your emotions, resources, and time, and compromising your dignity, integrity, and agency in an attempt to obtain that connection is. Take care to understand the difference, and recognize those actions or social cues in your daily life that signify when you have slipped into the latter, unhealthy behaviour. | /r/askTRP | 16/01/15 02:48 PM |
| 2 | Male's attraction to body vs mindWhether a woman is nice, conscientious, intelligent, loyal, or any other quality that is generally regarded to be a social plus does indeed add to her attractiveness. RP men interested in LTRs actively evaluate these qualities. But it still has nothing on the underlying strength of physical attraction. If I am hitting on you, it's because you are physically attractive. I have not sussed out from afar that you are intelligent or loyal or passionate about curing Alzheimer's, and to think that your… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/15 02:36 PM |
| 7 | If old men can settle for less than beautiful women, why should we be critical of post wall women settling less than alpha men?Because it's not actually about the women. In true, BP fashion you've taken a RP precept and misinterpreted its application. It's about the men who settle for those women, and why they should not be willing to settle for those women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/15 02:29 PM |
| 2 | Cease contact until date 2 weeks from now?Apply the 2/3rds rule to any texts she sends (preferably even less, truthfully, and everything should be cocky-playful). If she doesn't send any, you don't send any. A 'date' in two weeks is not actually a date at all, more often it's a way to reject the affable loser whose feelings you don't want to hurt. When it comes time when you know she should be free, send a text the day before that you will be at X place and Y time, and you want her to come join you. This is a compliance test to gauge in… | /r/askTRP | 16/01/15 02:21 PM |
| 1 | Brisbane, Australia: A woman has started a social club for "Well endowed men" and "Women who respect them". Membership is signified with a particular silver ring linked to a mobile app, and requires men to be over 7 inches to join.Whether one finds this offensive or not should be secondary to the fact that it's women actually acting in accordance with their nature, and, ironically given the culture, that is something to be encouraged. | /r/TheRedPill | 16/01/15 02:11 PM |
| 2 | Realized after: should have trusted my instinctsMe: true, it does look cold as fuck Good. Following that you should have adopted the greasiest of shit-eating grins and asked if she wanted some help in warming them up. Whatever her response, you would then reply with, 'no seriously, let's hang out later, I know a place that has the best blah blah blah' (you should always know a place). | /r/askTRP | 16/01/15 02:05 PM |
| 1 | Hired guy friend to do a job for me and had to fire him. What to do?Anyways, I don't know how to salvage this. If I were you, I would call him up tonight and make some sort of plans with him to hang out on the weekend to do something normal that you guys usually do. For me and my friends, this would be to grab a beer and watch the hockey game, or chat for an hour over Starbucks. When you make plans and when you meet up, pretend like nothing ever happened. Use your frame to direct the conversation and make a 'safe space' for him. This is solely to give him the ch… | /r/askTRP | 16/01/15 01:47 PM |
| 2 | Reading "The Manipulated Man" and I have question regarding feminismFeminism promises a society where the burden of production and administration is shared by the sexes in equal, indistinct form, as opposed to the idealized, traditional division of the sexes where that burden is extremely lopsided with men focused on the public responsibilities, and the women the private/familial ones. This promise lays the foundation for the claim that feminism benefits men just as much as women, since it seeks to dismantle the 'patriarchy' that enslaves men and holds them to t… | /r/askTRP | 30/12/14 06:32 AM |
| 2 | Femininity and AssertivenessYou and me both. I see a difference, as I would between, say, submissive and passive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/14 05:48 AM |
| 1 | RP men, have you heard of this community? The Mankind Project.TRP does a poor job of teaching manhood because it really doesn't in its current incarnation. For this reason, I believe the Mankind Project would be regarded as more of a supplement than a replacement. As for your editorial, you are right in that many RP goals are not inclusive to later life phases that men will undergo, but I think you are overstating the effect. Whether a young man's programming is bluepill or redpill, it is nonetheless faulty and will be succeeded in time as each man matures… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/14 05:39 AM |
| 1 | Question for the MEN of PPD only please regarding intoxication, "victimization" and gender/sexIt's beholden to me to do an accurate risk assessment of my actions, especially if there are unique considerations to my sex, age, employment, location, state of mind, etc. This holds whether this risk derives from a passive agent (e.g. an icy road) or an active one (e.g. a mugger). This does not mean I deserve any ill that befalls me, but it does mean it is within my control - and thus my responsibility - to mitigate those factors that may directly contribute to that harm. Re-read that last poi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/14 05:22 AM |
| 1 | What direction will the U.S./Europe move politically over the next decade(s)? What role will Millennial play?Social democracy will be the reigning paradigm with a number of initiatives coming to the fore: enforced gender quotas, guaranteed income, child supplement, etc. Continued focus on safety, security and political correctness will increase risk aversion, keep economic growth low, and favour hazard reduction over individual rights. There will be some backlash, but it's not obvious what effect, if any, that will have beyond making gender politics more confusing and polarized. Private social life wil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/14 04:53 AM |
| 1 | do you want to have kids?I don't want children, but if my partner became pregnant, I would be game. Oddly, if I were to be father, I'd rather have 3+ children than just one or two. I am going to put in the stress and money anyway, so why not get a kickass clan out of the deal? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/14 04:44 AM |
| 1 | What's your ideal divorce, alimony, and child support law?Either fault-divorce or remove alimony from the table. Split assets 50/50 or along proportional contribution. Keep common law arrangements off the books, or allow for cohabitation agreements. Pick n play model with respect to partner rights. Default joint custody. Custody necessitates support, based on an explicit accounting of child-rearing costs. Additional option for enacting an annual child supplement. Enact male abortion, limited to some period after birth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/14 04:34 AM |
| -1 | Femininity and AssertivenessI don't think your construction is valid, either in the false dilemma you construct, nor in my own criteria for a partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/14 04:19 AM |
| 9 | RP men, have you heard of this community? The Mankind Project.I have never heard of this group, but after a cursory look at them and the 'mythopoetic' movement, they might warrant a second look. Immediate impressions that may or may not hold merit: more communitarian than my individualistic bent likes too focused on dated psychological models conservative, noble-savage worship reactionary, MGTOW-like no explicit mention of sexual strategy likely no more palatable to feminists, bluepillers, further limited by tone-policing They might have some interesting t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/14 04:17 AM |
| 7 | You all know that women don't know what they want, right? Turns out they don't even know what they're aroused by.It's certainly possible to test this question. One approach could be to replicate the study but prime your sample with something like consensus, pre-selection, or even sugary treats to see whether or not social immunity leads to more congruency between physical response and self-assessment. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/12/14 03:31 AM |
| 3 | How are you supposed to ask/do when someone has you by the ballThe best way to act when someone has you by the balls is with integrity. Integrity means keeping consistent with your values and self-reality not giving a fuck about any of the so-called 'consequences' that may result. Holding frame is a part of that in that you are not being swayed off track by someone else's criticism or persuasion. Acting with integrity can be difficult and discomfiting if you are young, inexperienced, etc., but there are a few steps you can take to make it easier to effect: … | /r/TheRedPill | 24/12/14 12:07 AM |
| 3 | I posted in 2x yesterdayIf you have a question sans editorial, feel free to ask it in AskTRP. If you want an excuse to wank about TRP, PurplePillDebate will be more your speed. In the meantime, I'll be flagging this thread as irrelevant. | /r/TheRedPill | 12/12/14 12:37 AM |
| 1 | Am I crazy and too controlling of my gf? x-post for relationshipsCompliments have their place, but these sound pedastalizing, no offense, and I am sure she can see right through them (which is exactly where she wants you). Whenever you feel the need to compliment, it's better to express it non-verbally through some form of physical contact or presence. Backfiring with respect to reigning her in. I recommend against it. Effect standards and positive reinforcement. Negative reinforcement ALWAYS includes a frame challenge and that is way to easy to fuck up at th… | /r/askTRP | 04/12/14 01:45 AM |
| 2 | Am I crazy and too controlling of my gf? x-post for relationshipsDo what you want, but be careful with it because it can backfire. It's the equivalent of showing your hand too soon. A better circumstance is to set clear standards and cut her loose if they get violated. Make them as objective as possible; that way your emotions have less influence. Also employ this with positive reinforcement. Better to motivate with the carrot than the stick, because she rationalizes the loss of the former with her behaviour and the application of the latter with yours (which… | /r/askTRP | 04/12/14 01:28 AM |
| 3 | Am I crazy and too controlling of my gf? x-post for relationshipsYour whole perspective is out of whack. Being controlling is dictating what your partner can and cannot do, in excess of reasonable conditions. It doesn't sound like you have been able to control her at all. On the other hand, why would you need to be 'more understanding' of your girlfriend? You already 'understand' her - she has a past and likes attention from other men. AWALT. Neither of you are special snowflakes, nor is your situation. You're just another man who is letting his partner impac… | /r/askTRP | 04/12/14 01:11 AM |
| -1 | Am I getting the hang of shit tests?I don't know, do you often need complete strangers to reassure you over the internet? | /r/askTRP | 04/12/14 12:55 AM |
| 1 | How do you respond to 'how long your relatioships usually last' question, if you've never been in any?Oh, don't all of your plates already know that you are married? In fact, you have a number of wives, isn't that right! AND, if she wants, she can be wife number five - no, make that number four if she is okay with swallowing. ...It's a shit test, same as any other, and just as easy to pass. | /r/askTRP | 04/12/14 12:54 AM |
| 1 | TRP and relationshipsLook, man, you can enjoy the ride without turning into a complete sap. Reaffirm what is and isn't in your control and go from there. If you fuck it up, you will soon find that out. Live and learn. | /r/askTRP | 04/12/14 12:48 AM |
| 1 | Confused about whether to "be yourself" or notIf being yourself means that you are an interesting, high value man with credible social proof, then by all means be yourself. If you are an unsocialized nerd who had trouble befriending dogs, then no, fuck that shit. | /r/askTRP | 04/12/14 12:45 AM |
| 22 | Society has turned inward. We live in a middle time without total wars and frontiers waiting for exploration and exploitation.Nothing explains the prevalence of 'first world problems' better than this. The West is finished building nations, but for the time being remains incapacitated and unable to effect concrete progress toward the next frontier, space. So we bide our time with social policy as a distraction. Fucking hell. | /r/TheRedPill | 04/12/14 12:37 AM |
| 4 | Society has turned inward. We live in a middle time without total wars and frontiers waiting for exploration and exploitation.None of those conflicts have been imperialistic in the classic sense. In fact, they have been intensely conservative in intent. The West has treated each as a hot potato they cannot wait to drop as soon as it is politically expedient, domestically. Historic isolationism is an easy explanation for the Americans' behaviour but what about Europe? Imperialism is over. No one has the balls to explore the next frontier, thus, the West stagnates. | /r/TheRedPill | 04/12/14 12:33 AM |
| 3 | How do you keep an abundance mentality when your corporate job is stressful and demoralizing?Whether you realize it or not, you have a set of core principles that influence your state of mind. For example, it is imperative for me to explore, learn, and create in whatever it is I do. Others might need to perform, organize, serve a higher purpose, or coordinate with people. For you, figure out which principles are critical for your emotional health - these principles are things that you would need to effect regardless of your specific profession - and then evaluate how well they match up … | /r/TheRedPill | 04/12/14 12:22 AM |
| 9 | How does one self-actualize?Not having yet achieved it now over three decades in, I am going to assume it starts with principled living as opposed that which is concerned with values. In other words, a focus on the methods of living as opposed to deriving meaning from specific instances. Applying this to your profession, it matters less that you are a tradesman or white collar worker than it does that you have employed mastery in effecting your work. Applying it to spirituality, it matters less than you are an atheist or a… | /r/TheRedPill | 04/12/14 12:11 AM |
| -2 | What does PPD think about the Jian Ghomeshi case?First, I am disappointed because I enjoyed Q and liked him at the helm. Second, I think it's hilarious that this happened to such a white-knighting feminist mangina and a self-described bi-sexual, who frequently mocked MRAs. Third, I think this confirms aspects of TRP since he had quite a reputation in the back channels of the scene, yet clearly had no trouble finding partners. Fourth, I am confident the courts will come to a 'proper' decision. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/14 11:22 PM |
| 3 | "The Misandry Bubble"Resources are finite, but that's only part of the picture; equally relevant is that our ability to exploit them plots on an exponential curve. In other words, it's not like twenty items on a shelf that can be bought out for the same price, but rather that after a critical mass of them have been sold, the price doubles with each sale ensuring that there will always be some left for future buyers who have the financial means. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/14 11:56 PM |
| 2 | "The Misandry Bubble"I've followed the comment chain and found your contributions to be fascinating, especially the comment about labour arbitrage which seems so obvious yet I did not see it until you pointed it out. A couple of questions, if you don't mind and have the time: Has the tit-for-tat consumer goods/debt financing dance with China stayed the effects of demographic stagnation in the West, and if so, can it be extended for another few decades as jurisdictions like India, Indonesia, and Africa come online? W… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/14 11:52 PM |
| 2 | Male Submission: inherently destructive to the male?I don't have too much to say to this apart from the fact that I am happy the two of you have found a balance and are making it work. Out of curiosity, where would you say you land on the pill spectrum (I don't follow individual users very closely)? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/14 05:36 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The Red Pill, in part, is a Social Justice Warrior forumThat depends; if the five threads you cherry-picked are just outrage porn, they may not directly relate to sexual strategy at all. Is that supposed to be some kind of gotcha? They are likely criticisms of the modern woman (i.e. the way things are) as opposed to proposals for how we should be raising girls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/14 05:21 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The Red Pill, in part, is a Social Justice Warrior forumA platitude? No, it's a legitimate distinction that explains a lot of the disconnect between how redpillers and bluepillers regard the scope of TRP. If you legitimately believe that gender identity is of an equal concern to RP men as is banging sluts, then you have not been paying attention. But the gender identity they develop is not the ideal, according to TRP. The fact that they promote an ideal suggests they have an ideology, which suggests they have a social agenda, which they advocate for,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/14 04:56 PM |
| 3 | Male Submission: inherently destructive to the male?You are very welcome. I haven't given much thought to the plight of the submissive male. I guess this depends on whether he is willingly or unwillingly submissive, and whether his submissiveness is absolute or contextual (e.g. powerful executive by day, ball-gagged by night). As for the woman, her plight is whether she is satisfied with submissive men, or whether she wants to compete with a dominant man. TRP would say she has to bring more to the table in the case of the latter, because our domi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/14 04:42 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The Red Pill, in part, is a Social Justice Warrior forumThere is a difference between how boys and girls develop a gender identity as a result of social, cognitive, or evolutionary factors (the three main theoretical foundations), and how 'cooked' men and women are supposed to bargain as adults in the sexual marketplace. For example, a 22-year-old, friend-zoned virgin who encounters TRP for the first time is not concerned about the former, but cares greatly about the latter. TRP offers the roadmap for navigating this problem, and it's upon the latter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/14 04:34 PM |
| 3 | Male Submission: inherently destructive to the male?Sexual dimorphism suggests this at a general level, but when reduced to individuals will not always hold. There is the added distinction that descriptive qualities are not necessarily interpretive or prescriptive ones. Think of this as the 'is-ought' problem applied to the sexual marketplace. What TRP asserts that if you are dominant or seek dominance in keeping with this generalization, then apply steps A, B, C, etc. What's often lost in this prescription is that these steps can be applied non-… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/14 04:15 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The Red Pill, in part, is a Social Justice Warrior forumInterestingly, I don't think your view needs much changing as your construction is relatively valid and sound as far as I can tell. I would raise two points: first a distinction, then a clarification. In every group there is a disparity between the ideology and the actions of its adherents. This is not to lobster-bucket the issue, but to point out that while individual actions may be worthy of criticism, the core principles or ideals of the ideology remain unaffected. We can laugh at radfems or … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/14 04:08 PM |
| 1 | Lets talk politicsI am liberal but non-partisan. Think of me as a progressive reform liberal, or a pragmatic social democrat. I support a robust welfare state - e.g. universal healthcare, guaranteed income, guaranteed child supplement, free post-secondary education, etc. - because I believe that achieves the minimum level required for individuals to compete in a free market. However, my principled civil-libertarian and meritocratic leanings put me at odds with the value-based, feminist identity-politics of other … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/14 01:42 PM |
| 2 | What are the core things you need to believe to be TRP?A lack of education in the humanities, particularly psychology and sociology. The irony here is that psychology and sociology are generally regarded as social sciences and not humanities because they effect empirical methods like observation or experimentation instead of the historical method and its reliance on critique and comparison. As a practicing scientist who understands something of statistics and philosophy, let me assure you that neither side has the intellectual highground when it com… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/14 01:10 PM |
| 2 | Hypocrisy of ActionThis is conceptually irrelevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/14 08:27 PM |
| 1 | Hypocrisy of ActionI only use 'voluntarily' to keep consistent phrasing with the poster I was replying to. At the core, I would differentiate based on which actions the individual is responsible for, ignoring external influence. In other words, our man and woman are active agents determining their own behaviour, but are not responsible for unethical actions perpetrated by another. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/14 06:31 PM |
| 3 | Hypocrisy of ActionLike a man who enters a relationship voluntarily, a woman enters the public space voluntarily. Clearly, then, the unwilling conditions faced by the man on account of someone's shitty behaviour are principly equivalent to the woman who unwillingly experiences shitty behaviour, and thus, the construction posed by the OP holds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/14 06:18 PM |
| 2 | Is Marriage still worth it?I have long considered the issue and I have decided I won't be getting married. My jurisdiction offers a cohabitation agreement, so I have decided that's what my girlfriend and I will effect when we decided to start sharing assets and raise a family. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/14 04:11 PM |
| 8 | I'm at a crossroads. Part of me just wants to jump in, part of me doesn't want to be around people who think I'm an aberration.What, exactly, am I? You are a pioneer. You exist in a social, psychological space that is misunderstood in our society, and you largely get to determine what that means. Your choices will pave the way for the future, whether you choose to be active, passive, political or not, strong/shrinking, independent/interdependent, and innumerable other dichotomies. Of course, this doesn't mean you will be successful, happy, certain, or satisfied with your status and experience, but I urge you to take a l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/14 03:19 PM |
| 1 | Do women hate guys who try to improve their chances with women?It is definitely a credibility issue. None of us have a problem blowing a shit ton of cash on a high quality product, but the same cannot be said for blowing that money on a shitty product gussied up to look quality. Caveat emptor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/14 01:43 AM |
| 2 | TwoXhamster discusses TRP, conspicuously absent from the discussion?Haha, yeah, I saw that thread earlier. I am kind of surprised that TRP detractors are becoming even less cognizant of what it is as time goes on, since I figured more exposure would lead to more nuance. Nope. | /r/TheRedPill | 07/11/14 01:25 AM |
| 1 | How to deal with feelings of helplessness?If you are a religious man, pray and seek guidance. The process will help fortify your mind and emotions for what will come. In addition, or if you are not religious, start reading some Stoicism and reflect/meditate on its principles; e.g. Understanding what is and isn't within your control, the importance of consideration for the small things in daily life, how fulfilling social obligations to your wife and family is critical, how you never lose your centre no matter what happens externally to … | /r/askTRP | 05/11/14 11:18 PM |
| 1 | Help me understand what "ego" isSelf esteem and confidence are personal qualities that let you effect and apply certain principles in the social realm. These principles may be tolerance, acceptance, goodwill, respect, accountability, etc. - basically any methods of social behaviour that result in the kinds of environments that we think of as positive or good. Because most of us don't really think about this shit, we tend to conflate them. (It's like when we say our car broke down, but in fact the car's engine broke down - we h… | /r/askTRP | 05/11/14 11:03 PM |
| 4 | Does RP advocate scheming on a man's wife or gf for his own gain? Do you try to seduce the SO?But if your happiness comes at the price of another man's suffering, is that an OK action? This is the question of the ages, relevant to everything from war to sweatshops to job hunting to the very basis of supply and demand. This is not to downplay its role in TRP, but to illustrate the complexity of competing values and principles. If a RP man believes his own happiness comes before others, then yes, let another suffer for it. Others will disagree. This is what we mean when we say TRP is amora… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/14 11:16 PM |
| 1 | Redpillers - do you believe in morality, and if so what are the general principles?Yep, it does! My meaning above is how others' characterize its amorality, not that they incorrectly characterize it as amoral. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/14 10:49 PM |
| 4 | Redpillers - do you believe in morality, and if so what are the general principles?I have a robust system of ethics and morals, which is why I am generally amused by characterizations of TRP's amorality. As one example, while I believe that sex between consenting adults is ethical, my personal morality precludes me from sleeping with a woman who is not single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/14 10:13 PM |
| 7 | Could your career be ruined by a woman blogging about a "bad date"?I like Jian and his show but this is the fucking truth. Huge feminist known to publicly deride MRAs, so how fucking hilarious will it be if they are the only ones who end up backing him up after all his partners retroactively deny consent and his feminist fan base turns on him. Bisexual, feminist minority vs straight, white feminists - place your bets now! | /r/TheRedPill | 27/10/14 02:00 PM |
| 3 | Your Personal PhilosophyI am an atheist, so I almost invoke a form of the naturalistic fallacy as the foundational quality of my belief system in the sense that because my function demands the manipulation of matter in my coursing through space and time, then I therefore should do that. To that end, I effect three methods - exploration, creation, and expression - from which I derive the full meaning of my life. What these principles achieve encompasses everything, so they are reductive in structure as opposed to prescr… | /r/askTRP | 26/10/14 03:01 AM |
| 2 | TRP response to other guys talking to your girl?I know TRP is about self improvement, so a typical response to this question I'd expect is "make sure you're her best option and other guys aren't a problem", but to be honest it's not that I think she's cheating it bothers me anyway and I don't really want her talking to many other guys so how do I talk to her about it? You don't talk to her, because you would just be communicating that you exhibit a scarcity mentality and are insecure, and that she has disproportionate power in the relationshi… | /r/askTRP | 25/10/14 07:51 PM |
| 2 | When a girl leaves you after a LTR does your SMV go down?Your SMV will lower if it required the influence of her preselection. If that is the case, then work on those indicators of value that are under your direct control - body, fashion, job, money, education, social circle, social status, mystery, mastery, etc. | /r/askTRP | 25/10/14 07:32 PM |
| 2 | Is diary-esque writing to vent and map confused thoughts a BP trait?The answer depends on whether the act enables bluepill thinking (self pity, victimhood, defeatism, cynicism, etc.) or promotes redpill thinking (accountability, critical analysis, proaction, goals, etc.). The thing to remember is that the act of writing is meaningless in itself; it's just a medium for the thought process in your head. Choosing not to write to avoid bluepill expression does not necessarily limit your similarly compromised thinking. Where writing can be a valuable tool is its perm… | /r/askTRP | 25/10/14 07:24 PM |
| 1 | How to exploit a good job.Focus on the status and adventure of the job, not the money. | /r/askTRP | 25/10/14 07:12 PM |
| 3 | How to deal with an amog? (At work)Easiest response is just to ask a favour of them. It really doesn't matter what, nor does it need to be anything functional. It's just designed to interrupt their frame. They either do it and come to learn that bugging you means more work for them, or they enter your frame and get defensive. Either way, you win. | /r/askTRP | 25/10/14 06:57 PM |
| 3 | From an evolutionary standpoint, women are more valuable than men - and many RP'ers will generally agree.So where does this put the talentless, the physically and mentally handicapped men? They get to starve to death? They starve to death metaphorically speaking. The majority of them will not realize their potential in the SMP due to their limitations. And how about the talented, ambitious women who want to contribute something other than babies to society? They will go on to achieve success in those areas traditionally thought to be masculine. They will also be confused how little those things mat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/14 06:44 PM |
| 1 | Does the shit testing ever end? I'm so tired of it.It never stops, but you get better at passing them. Soon, you will realize it's an easy way to build value. She is basically handing you opportunities to show how great a man you are. Start cultivating a positive mindset toward them instead of the victim mentality. | /r/askTRP | 21/10/14 12:40 AM |
| 2 | Certainty in Free Will and its role in debateIt's the same kind of problem you see in any debate; the fluidity of reason in each respective individual tends to solidify into simplistic characterizations when you consider the end result in aggregate. I can identify two broad reasons for this: the problem of induction, and shitty metrics. Obviously, the latter is what we should focus on, and there are a few ways we could hypothetically mitigate it: Debate in good faith Simplify your argument, but don't be simplistic Educate yourself on what … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/14 12:23 AM |
| 8 | Question: Does anyone have that male vs. female career choices chart that was posted recently?http://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/chalabi-datalab-flightattendants-2.png | /r/TheRedPill | 17/10/14 08:13 PM |
| 0 | The difference is in how BP and RP deals with others alphas threatening your reshipWhat is your personal take on the situation, how would you handle it? Both sides are speaking truth, but it's up to you to determine the correct balance. What do I mean by that? Self-acceptance is critical, but it doesn't always mean being passive or resigned to mediocrity as RP men would typically characterize it. It can also mean coming to grips with those things that are not, and will never be under your control (e.g. the actions of your SO). This is a very Stoic view, and though highly regar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/14 12:21 AM |
| 5 | Motivation After HoursIf your physical and mental P's and Q's are in order (e.g. getting enough sleep, not burned out, etc.), break your tasks into small chunks that can be accomplished quickly and don't require a level of commitment that will psyche you out before you start. For example, I enjoy writing, but I LOATHE thinking that I have to sit down and commit an hour or two to write. So what do I do? I commit to reading the last 1500 words I wrote the previous day. Takes five minutes. Two if I don't scratch my ball… | /r/askTRP | 08/10/14 12:12 AM |
| 1 | We're All BusyMonday morning I bluntly set it up. "Friday night, date night - best Chinese on XXX Road, then jazz at XXXXXXX - let’s lock it in, let me know." "Omg sounds like fun. I'll check my schedule let you know by tomorrow." It's hard to say where her head is at, but this is where YOU went wrong. You did good work in coming up with an idea and presenting it in short, sweet terms, but you shot yourself in the foot by relinquishing control. It's never 'let me know' but always, 'you down?' Busy people have… | /r/askTRP | 07/10/14 11:56 PM |
| 4 | TRP and feminism BOTH assert that nobody is ever entitled to sex...so why do I often see conflicting messages about who we are entitled to?Oh, I understood your point. You made two of them which did not reflect the content or intent of my post in any way. The problem is that when I demonstrated how your points were irrelevant to mine both from a principled and actual standpoint, you attempted to deflect your misunderstanding with some nonsense about semantics (which was also incorrect) and how you felt the whole thing was tiresome (well, la dee da, I suppose trying to rationalize your mistakes is tiring). The fact that you're now a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/14 10:59 PM |
| 1 | TRP and feminism BOTH assert that nobody is ever entitled to sex...so why do I often see conflicting messages about who we are entitled to?You sure did, but it seems like saving face is more important to you than being accountable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/14 10:09 PM |
| 2 | TRP and feminism BOTH assert that nobody is ever entitled to sex...so why do I often see conflicting messages about who we are entitled to?The disappointing part is that I could actually respect you if you just owned up to your mistake. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/14 10:06 PM |
| -1 | One thing I don't understand about TRPSure? I'm sorry, I just don't quite understand what your point is... Edit: in the broad sense, I mean. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/14 10:00 PM |
| 1 | One thing I don't understand about TRPMaybe? I don't necessarily fault people for shaming if they think that can achieve some benefit. I just may not accept it as credible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/14 09:58 PM |
| 3 | TRP and feminism BOTH assert that nobody is ever entitled to sex...so why do I often see conflicting messages about who we are entitled to?No, that WAS your point. You explicitly - unintentionally or intentionally - misconstrued the point of my post. Semantics would be arguing over the choice of specific words, such as whether I was justified or not in substituting 'confident' for 'playful' for 'cocky' to refer to the same effect. In this case, there is a clear principled distinction between quality/effectiveness and abundance. If I happened to be arguing that someone could boost the quality of their sex life if they employed some … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/14 09:54 PM |
| 2 | One thing I don't understand about TRPSo men do create the very same women they later on complain about. You are vastly overstating the influence of TRP. If, on the other hand, you simply meant that as an ideal construction, the onus is still on the woman, just as it is on the man who is rejected by women. What gives? You're observing either the hypocrisy or the conflicting values of individual men who self-identify as RP. TRP doesn't rule on this one way or another instead opting for the principle that men maximize their own benefi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/14 09:41 PM |
| 3 | TRP and feminism BOTH assert that nobody is ever entitled to sex...so why do I often see conflicting messages about who we are entitled to?User's fault? On the contrary, if our hypothetical RP man applied those methods correctly and they did not work, then that would indeed debunk the portion of TRP that says things like confidence, social proof, and mystery help fuel attraction. However, the debate was never about that. What's at issue is whether or not our hypothetical RP man has actually effected those techniques properly; i.e. in a way that raises their value. If he hasn't - say he's more of a dick than cocky, or his friends ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/14 09:25 PM |
| 8 | TRP and feminism BOTH assert that nobody is ever entitled to sex...so why do I often see conflicting messages about who we are entitled to?Again, you're incorrect. Nowhere in this debate is there the assumption that either RP or BP is 'correct'. Rather, it hinges upon the principle of value, and whether or not the specific qualities that lead to increased value are being correctly acted upon. In other words, both BP and RP proponents accept the notion of value when it comes to sexual selection (or, if you will, the 'sexual marketplace') - where they differ is in the confluence of qualities and the expected/intended outcome. In eith… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/14 08:42 PM |
| 7 | TRP and feminism BOTH assert that nobody is ever entitled to sex...so why do I often see conflicting messages about who we are entitled to?No, the idea is not the same in either structure or effect. The idea that recommending 'more' RP is the same as actually applying a RP principle is akin to saying that a scientist can achieve a better result if they do 'more' science as opposed to doing it correctly (i.e. precisely, or constraining their study to a specific method). The difference is night and day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/14 08:21 PM |
| 11 | TRP and feminism BOTH assert that nobody is ever entitled to sex...so why do I often see conflicting messages about who we are entitled to?Not 'more' RP; actually apply it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/14 07:55 PM |
| 4 | TRP and feminism BOTH assert that nobody is ever entitled to sex...so why do I often see conflicting messages about who we are entitled to?You're entitled to what you can pull. If RP men are getting bent out of shape because they are getting rejected by women who are out of their league, then they are not doing a very good job of applying the basic RP principle of raising their own value. TRP offers no sympathy to those men because they are choosing victim status on account of either not understanding or avoiding the responsibility that TRP imbues. In many cases, the women that our bitter and entitled white man is getting rejected … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/14 07:09 PM |
| 6 | Red Pill School HAS BEEN DOXXEDThis doxxing has a shocking lack of dyed hair, facial piercings, emo glasses and fat upper pubic areas. | /r/TheRedPill | 25/08/14 05:34 PM |
| 2 | Female aversion to male vulnerabilityAgree? Disagree? Curious on people's take on the whole vulnerability issue. It's the difference between some mud on your new car that you can wash off and a scratched-up dent. There are small things you can be vulnerable about that will be very well received and invoke a feeling of sympathy or caregiving in your partner. However, other things, more structural to your experience or personality, will damage your credibility, lead to a loss of respect, and may even engender contempt. It's the forme… | /r/TheRedPill | 24/08/14 12:38 PM |
| 6 | Just looking for some advice.If you had a shitty beater of a car and didn't want to get rid of it, a certain part of that makes sense. It's yours, it's your first car, and you had some awesome times with it, going on road trips, pulling donuts in an intersection at 3 am, etc. However, let's face it - it's a shitty beater. It's damaged, unreliable, untrustworthy, and costs way more time and effort to repair than its worth. You also had no idea how to drive it and now its FUBAR. Cut the car loose. Take it to the wrecker. Take… | /r/askTRP | 22/08/14 03:43 PM |
| 2 | Girlfriend wants to go to a Sex Toy Party. Not sure how I feel about this or how I should respond.I wouldn't have an issue with it, and I would apply some manner of A&A (e.g. suggesting she get some handcuffs to use later, whatever - it's the non-verbal communication that counts in that situation). I think the critical issue is not her going, but why you don't want her to go. I would reflect on that. Does it violate a standard or an expectation? Think about the difference. | /r/askTRP | 22/08/14 03:32 PM |
| 1 | A girl posted this on her Facebook wall.What is the the redpill view on this quote? It is unexpectedly red pill. It's basically admitting that she has no accountability and that it is the man's responsibility. What is more RP than that? Where she gets it wrong is how the man should act. She wants to feel certain things, but is mistaken in thinking that the man can directly supply them to her. The key distinction is that the RP man excites them in her. | /r/TheRedPill | 22/08/14 03:25 PM |
| 3 | Curious, how many here are Yuppies? (Young, Urban, Professional)Technically yes, but given my class background (rural) and aspirations (technical disguised as professional), no. | /r/TheRedPill | 22/08/14 03:14 PM |
| 9 | You Are Not So Smart: The Sunk Cost FallacyIndeed, the decision hinges on, "is there anything worth saving?" as opposed to, "but we've been together for X years!" | /r/TheRedPill | 22/08/14 03:12 PM |
| 1 | What it really means for men in LTR to swallow the red pillI envision continuum with yourself at one end, your partner on the other, and the relationship in the middle. BP thinking establishes that your emotional space should be centred on either her or the relationship, whereas RP thinking pulls back the emotional focus either to yourself, or to a location on that continuum between yourself and the relationship. This allows you to establish and enforce standards instead of being a victim to unrealistic expectations. | /r/TheRedPill | 22/08/14 03:10 PM |
| 2 | Can a wife request marriage advice from gracious red pillers?I am sure both of us can think of marriages or relationships where the woman is negative about her man's hobbies or aspirations because she fears them, does not respect them, resents the time they take away from her, etc. This works both ways, no question, but given the context of your thread I will frame it in terms of the woman targeting the man. I know a man who used to be a bush pilot up in northern Canada. Loved flying. It made him feel alive and although he was pretty cautious and never go… | /r/TheRedPill | 22/08/14 02:54 PM |
| 3 | What is your knock-down argument against feminism?Simply put, feminism has forgotten the principle of equality. In liberal democratic societies, you are guaranteed an equal platform for success, not success itself. There are certainly social barriers to success that are based on gender. This is important to recognize, however, it's also important to recognize that they exist for males, too, and may extend beyond shaming and verbal abuse to physical assault. A plethora of examples exist, but consider a woman entering the trades who is turned off… | /r/askTRP | 22/08/14 02:35 PM |
| 5 | Woman marries a beta, now she can't stand sex with him, let alone the smell of the guy.I laughed at that too. That advice is the equivalent of a cat dressed in a shark costume riding a roomba. It's something that happened, yet for all its absurdity you almost can't believe it. | /r/TheRedPill | 22/08/14 01:49 PM |
| 2 | Can a wife request marriage advice from gracious red pillers?I want three things from my partner: sex fidelity the best version of herself The last is basically a catch-all for the kind of behaviors I haven't seen in previous relationships where lies, laziness, disrespect, contempt, low-self-esteem, inactivity, etc. played a prominent role in their respective personalities. Apart from that, I would recommend instituting a division of duties - not necessarily along traditional gender lines or intended to promote them - so that each of you has a sphere of m… | /r/TheRedPill | 22/08/14 01:37 PM |
| 12 | To RPW or men looking for an RPW: How much are women free to pursue their own interests in a relationship? Do you agree with the red pill women sub?Very true, and I suppose I should not fault the OP for targeting that group specifically. That said, limiting your query to those Muslims who support terrorist attacks reaffirms a view that is not necessarily representative. That's at the heart of my caution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/14 09:32 PM |
| 0 | The Battle Between the "Conservative" Right and the "Progressive" Left.Sorry but you are confusing meritocracy with democracy. On the contrary, I am not confusing meritocracy for democracy, but rather suggesting a democratic system that incorporates the former. One of our most prevalent civic fallacies is assuming that democracy, liberalism, and human rights are mutually inclusive; they are not. You can make such changes to a democratic system without ever compromising basic human rights of free expression, mobility, security of the person, etc. In your fantasy wor… | /r/TheRedPill | 21/08/14 09:28 PM |
| 5 | I want to reject the red pill.Some days I want nothing more than to put my feet up, sit back, and let my work accomplish itself. It is very tempting, the fantasy of making money, getting promoted, learning new skills, meeting goals, and starting my own successful business without an ounce of sweat expended on my part. Come here, I deserve it. However, on the days when I am a better man, I realize that the process of effecting a result, the methods that allow me to live, founded on those principles that breed integrity, effor… | /r/TheRedPill | 21/08/14 08:37 PM |
| 21 | To RPW or men looking for an RPW: How much are women free to pursue their own interests in a relationship? Do you agree with the red pill women sub?My partner has a science degree and is working on an engineering certification. It blows my mind how some of you can be so steeped in ideology to think that I, as a RP man, would have a problem with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/14 06:31 PM |
| 2 | The Battle Between the "Conservative" Right and the "Progressive" Left.I disagree, because I can envision a much different system where those who can actually establish intellectual proficiency can have a proportionally-weighted vote on areas where they are educated or exhibit mastery. Such a system would essentially eliminate everything that we dislike about the current systems we have in the West, or what we fundamentally fear from democracy. However, it's a pipe dream - I am under no illusions. | /r/TheRedPill | 21/08/14 05:54 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about women in leadership positions?Hmm, don't have too much to say on this one, mostly because I haven't personally experienced it. All my previous relationships, including my current one, have been with women who have either not had any career success, or have been students or technical staff. That said, if we've chosen our careers or have ascended up the ranks based, in part, on our personality traits, or have allowed our professional frame to crowd our personal space (e.g. teachers), those aspects will bleed over the relations… | /r/askTRP | 21/08/14 05:49 PM |
| 4 | The Battle Between the "Conservative" Right and the "Progressive" Left.Modern representative democracy is a sham. It's a holdover from the days when direct democracy was a logistical impossibility. Are you seriously telling me that in the modern age of instantaneous communication that we cannot dispense with the party system altogether? Ah, but that would shine a light on the fact that the vast majority of us are terrified of democracy. So we putter along with an inefficient, corrupted system that limits public engagement and try to pretend that we are safer for it… | /r/TheRedPill | 21/08/14 05:24 PM |
| 1 | Alpha female here. How do I attract an alpha male?If I were in your position, I would: Target men who, demographically, are more masculine; those who make good money in business, or are self-employed. If not well-off, maybe rural or lower-middle class men who have masculine jobs and aren't afraid to meet conflict Target men who look good fashion-wise and take care of themselves fitness-wise. They have invested in themselves and that's a good sign. Target men who are 3-8 years older than you, depending on your age. Look for men who, if they don'… | /r/askTRP | 21/08/14 04:44 PM |
| 11 | Man wants his financially irresponsible girlfriend to pay off her debts before he agrees to marry her, AskBetas find him unreasonable because "If you go into a marriage planning on keeping things separate, you will never archive the levels of intimacy, of trust, and of love you could achieve."Let's see, would I start a business with a partner who not only brings to the table an investment of zero equity, but also a long-term liability that I am 100% responsible for? The fact that someone felt the need to ask this question explains why we are all here. | /r/TheRedPill | 21/08/14 03:57 PM |
| 6 | What do you think about women in leadership positions?I don't think leadership should be a gendered position, but as it stands now I am inclined to think men have a better conception of what it is; whether that is evolutionary, cognitive, or social in nature is up for debate. In a blind test, I would argue that women, more than men, would rely more on the arbitrary power bestowed upon them from some authority than acting in a way that would engender (no pun intended) respect from subordinates. (Top down vs grassroots, which is essentially the diffe… | /r/askTRP | 20/08/14 04:05 PM |
| 2 | Why is it okay in the eyes of TRP for the "alpha" guy to have sex with lot of women while women who do the same are automaticly classified as cumbuckets/sluts?It's largely a positional morality, not absolute morality. In other words, it's the 'look out for number one' of the sexual market place which is a core motivation of TRP. There is room for this when the ultimate ethical principle regarding sex is that it occurs between consenting adults. However, there are a few considerations: Many RP men do not promote, support, or excuse male promiscuity for a variety of personal reasons (e.g. Religion, sexual conservatism, monogamy) Many RP men support fema… | /r/askTRP | 20/08/14 03:14 PM |
| 1 | Handling Quarrels with SOI feel that I did not do anything wrong, and I am right to be miffed about her laziness and her name calling. Sure, but how did that work out for you? Thing about relationships is that it doesn't matter who is right. You could be right every time, but if you are losing frame and getting upset, she will find a way to turn that around and make you the bad guy. Do you really expect her to be accountable to you for flaws she won't even acknowledge? Come on, man, you know better than that. As a gener… | /r/askTRP | 19/08/14 04:17 PM |
| 1 | I understand now, but it sucksDon't worry about it. I actually think responding to her was the right thing to do at this specific juncture because it gave you a chance to experiment and have this experience. The fact that you don't fully understand her reaction on is indicative of that, and that's okay. She knew that breaking up would result in getting a lot of attention from you. When it didn't, she got confused. When you held frame, she started experiencing cognitive dissonance. In asking if you are scared, she's trying to… | /r/TheRedPill | 19/08/14 03:52 PM |
| 2 | Four brothersHow do you get it? Mostly from an attempt to establish and retain my integrity. Do I act congruent to my principles in the face of a world that constantly wants me to adapt to their dictates? I pull bits and pieces from all areas of life: career, hobbies, philosophy, fashion, fitness, sexuality, socialization... Jack of all trades, master of none. | /r/TheRedPill | 19/08/14 03:30 PM |
| 3 | What exactly is TRP?It's a model, as you indicate, but it also contains a number of principles that extend to life in general. This weekend my girlfriend and I plunked a couple of lawn chairs down in the lake and between getting sunburns and yakking about jobs, pets, children, future vacations, etc. came to gossip about one of her friends doing a master's in geography who is fond of posting scientific jargon on Facebook without really knowing what she's talking about. I idly observed that a good measure of how well… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/08/14 02:30 PM |
| 1 | does it get easier in your 30s?It is noticeably easier in your 30s if you were a chump all throughout your late teens and early 20s. By the time you've reached your 30s you've assumed the mantle of manhood and have more physical and mental fortitude. You've weathered a series of shitty relationships and breakups and have developed a sort of 'default' abundance mentality that is more aptly characterized by a cynical impatience with the game. The direct consequence is that you are no longer impressed by a gaggle of barely-legal… | /r/askTRP | 12/08/14 08:49 PM |
| 1 | Diogenes the Cynic: A Red Pill ManI seem to have gotten a similar impression or may have actually have read that explicitly. Consider the Serenity Prayer - how is that not something directly ripped from Stoicism? Perhaps it is. Unexpected, given how Aurelius felt about the early Christians, but to me that says more about Christianity's ability to survive and evolve than its ethical worth. (I will take my Classical ethics sans the middle-eastern, henotheistic mysticism, thank you very much.) When I argue that it is underrated in … | /r/TheRedPill | 30/07/14 05:37 PM |
| 5 | Common Law Marriage - what it is, and what it isn'tJumping on your post for Manitoba: Common law is equal to marriage regarding property and spousal support and is effected by three means: Immediately upon registration with the government Three years of co-habitation, no children One year of co-habitation, with children Here's the fucked-up part: if you terminate a registered relationship, its dissolution is effected after one year of living apart, but if you terminate a non-registered relationship, you have to live apart for three fucking years… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/07/14 05:01 PM |
| 3 | Looking for a deeper understanding as to why this bothered me.This concept is simplified from an article called, "Management Time: Who's Got the Monkey?" by William Oncken and Donald Wass. A hard copy can be located in Harvard Business Review's On Managing Yourself. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/07/14 06:03 PM |
| 10 | Diogenes the Cynic: A Red Pill ManThe ethics of Cynic and Stoic philosophy are highly underrated in our society. I have a great fondness for Marcus Aurelius' Meditations both from the practical wisdom it provides, but also for the regretful mentality he embodies which once caused Bertrand Russell to proclaim him as a, "pathetic figure". | /r/TheRedPill | 29/07/14 04:34 PM |
| 3 | Who is an example of an alpha male without looks, fame, or fortune?Great example. The man had legitimate frame and, when challenged, could back it up with not only a great wealth of knowledge but also a principled understanding of it. | /r/askTRP | 29/07/14 03:19 PM |
| 1 | After accepting the pill, I find it hard to enjoy the music I used to enjoyThere's a lot of masculine, value-oriented hardcore that does not dwell on those themes. Though limited musically, it promotes aggressiveness and self-determination. Start looking up Sick Of It All, Madball, Cro-Mags, Strife, Turmoil, Bane, Betrayed, Modern Life Is War, Paint It Black, From Ashes Rise, The Carrier, Judge... there are literally hundreds of bands and that list doesn't even begin to scratch the surface (pun intended). | /r/askTRP | 29/07/14 02:45 PM |
| 2 | How to make sure my frame doesn't deteriorateYou facilitate losing frame when you start placing the relationship or (even worse) her ahead of yourself. This can mean working or working out less, not seeing your friends as much, or limiting your hobbies or exposure to potential new ones. We do this because we value the relationship and our partner, and we project that this value will be shared by her. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. The occurrence of the latter increases with time and the more you limit your personal development. When … | /r/TheRedPill | 29/07/14 02:17 PM |
| 66 | Can spinning plates or even LTR provide a lasting kind of satisfaction?Look, women are not the end-all, be-all. Like your career, they serve a function in your life, but they are not an all-encompassing function. Women, careers, cars, vacations - none of these things are a solution to a spiritual crisis. Not saying that's what you have, but start seeing everything in its proper place. If something continually disappoints you, you have probably placed too much emphasis on it. Modify your life paradigm accordingly. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/07/14 02:00 PM |
| 24 | Looking for a deeper understanding as to why this bothered me.This bothers you because you understand that you are giving up frame and opening yourself up to shit tests. If your LTR texted you, "Do you want to ring me sometime when you're free?" at 7:45, you respond with, "Call me at 8:00." Yes, you are responding to her request, an obligation you assumed the minute you entered an LTR, but you're doing it on your terms and you have shifted the responsibility of her passively-aggressively expressed desire (i.e. 'do you want to call me' when it's clearly all… | /r/TheRedPill | 29/07/14 01:47 PM |
| 11 | Feminist author posts: "How Vladimir Putin Embodies The Worst Of The Men’s Rights Movement". Compares Putin to Elliot Rodger and basically calls to end hyper-masculine traits.Over the last months, Putin has been in the news quite a bit, but instead of being perceived as a formidable leader and hard-lined negotiator, he’s come off as arrogant, unyielding and only slightly misogynistic (as evidenced by his horribly offensive comments towards former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton). Yeah, it's so much more important to frame Putin's approach to diplomacy as misogynistic at a personal level toward Clinton than the actual fucking geo-political ramifications his behavio… | /r/TheRedPill | 29/07/14 01:12 PM |
| 3 | [Shower thoughts] TRPers, how would you raise your daughters?There are a number of approaches I could conceivably take, first among them raising my daughter (or son, no difference) to be a competent adult as opposed to an egotistical pet project whom I never want to grow up. This was a huge failing among Boomers who raised a generation more even useless than they were. One specific example among many (e.g. resilience, risk-taking, etc.) would be to consider that there is a large percentage (perhaps even a majority) of adults who can't explain what a logic… | /r/TheRedPill | 29/07/14 01:07 PM |
| 1 | Does your woman love herself more than you?No problem! I understand this sort of thing can occur on this sub. Just look at the adjoining trainwreck to the other user who questioned my post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/14 10:55 PM |
| 1 | Does your woman love herself more than you?Well, in principle, I am glad one of us is being stimulated by this exchange. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/14 10:53 PM |
| 4 | Does your woman love herself more than you?If it would help soothe your feelings and get you to stop replying with this nonsense, I will readily admit to being a prick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/14 10:45 PM |
| 2 | Does your woman love herself more than you?Would I like it? Haven't thought about it, really, but my initial reaction is no. That would seem to upset the current relationship dynamic and I don't necessarily see how that would be a net benefit since what we have works. But it's not about... degree or loyalty or un-conditionalness or anything, if that's what you're getting at. Indeed, that's not what I was getting at, otherwise I would have explicitly stated such. I did mean in terms of how I feel toward her in tender moments as opposed to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/14 10:43 PM |
| 2 | Does your woman love herself more than you?I do not suffer morons with much patience. Thanks for promising not to pollute my inbox further. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/14 10:09 PM |
| 1 | Does your woman love herself more than you?Are you saying you love her like this: "oooh, you're sooo cute, I just want to hug you, and love you to death, etc." Not quite, but since I'm getting the impression you're not interested in thinking about what I mean by that apart from a literal interpretation of my words, for the sake of the discussion, yes. And she doesn't love you like that? How do you know that? Because she explicitly stated that. Also maybe she looked so wide eyed because you never expressed quite in that sentiment how you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/14 08:46 PM |
| 2 | Does your woman love herself more than you?Does your lady love herself more than she loves you, does she justify doing things that she knows you hate or will hurt you because she "needs" it? The first unquestionably, and the principle of loving yourself more than others should hold regardless of your pill-colour. That said, the RP trope that men love women and women love children has a strong grain of truth in my experience. Example time. The other day my girlfriend was fawning over her cat (hey, he's a cute cat, no question) with the ty… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/14 07:29 PM |
| 2 | RedPill and LTR. How do they work? Advice Please.Have you ever heard the phrase, the whole is greater than the sum of its parts? When you are a single man spinning plates, you compartmentalize each one so that they are a self-contained entity unto themselves emotionally and practically. In other words, once you have established your emotional frame and manage the individual, your job is nearly complete. Not always easy, but complete. Not so for a LTR or marriage. When you reach that stage, you not only have to manage your emotions and partner,… | /r/TheRedPill | 23/07/14 04:18 PM |
| 2 | Men's Rights vs. TRPMen's' rights activists have learned that they can effect an appreciable change by co-opting the tactics and methods of feminism. Examples include, but are limited to cherry-picking statistics, adopting victimhood, and promoting rhetorical indignation. After a solid generation of feminism, there is an untapped segment among men who are primed and especially receptive to this approach, which is actually quite hilarious in that we are witnessing an aspect of feminism that will cannibalize itself i… | /r/TheRedPill | 23/07/14 04:03 PM |
| 3 | Reframing question: when people on redpill make statements that are consistent with abusers/psychopathic spectrum, do you notice?But noooo, you share a few tangential outcomes so that must mean all of the causal mechanisms between you are identical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/14 09:07 AM |
| 3 | Hypothetical question for both RP and BP men hereI ask if she is being assaulted, and if so, advise her to call the police. I can also call them for her if necessary. If not, she should phone a female friend or her mother to commiserate because I am not interested in hearing about her boy problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/14 12:44 AM |
| 2 | Does More/Better Communication in Relationships 'Work'?The discussion/debate always seems to ignore that there is more to 'communication' than just the verbal back and forth. Thinking about going on/off birth control? Considering a child? Want to try new position in the bedroom? Okay, talk it out. But desire? Respect? Those things are not talking points where you can resolve it with an hour-long discussion. They require a more subtle, mid to long-term touch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/14 12:42 AM |
| 3 | Why is TRP political?I have fairly left politics by American standards, so I don't really consider the political aspects of TRP. In fact, I think some of those politics would help men (e.g. universal paternity insurance). On the other hand, my politics tend toward principles rather than values, so that puts me at odds with some feminist thinking, despite being, by definition, an equity feminist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/14 12:30 AM |
| 1 | Seeking Clarification on the "No True Scotsman" Logical FallacyThis fallacy is tricky because it operates on a rhetorical device that is contingent upon a specific value context. In other words, you are referring to something other than what your words denote. Whether or not a male is of legal age is irrelevant when 'only real men' refers to a specific ideal set of values or behaviours. There's nothing wrong with employing such statements if you're having the discussion with participants who buy into or at least recognize the initial premise of those values… | /r/TheRedPill | 17/07/14 05:38 PM |
| 7 | Blue pill boyfriendThat's really tricky. Encourage him to go to the gym, or depending on what kind of a man he is, tell him that he needs to start losing the gut because it is unattractive and breaking the 'rules' of your arrangement. Another possible tact is to positively reinforce his masculine qualities and activities while ignoring the more 'beta' behaviours that you actively dislike. | /r/askTRP | 17/07/14 03:51 PM |
| 2 | What advice would you give to a single woman about to hit the wall?Congratulations on losing the weight and having a plan about losing the rest. Ignoring how big of a role our bodies play in our image-obsessed culture, start looking forward to the health and recreational benefits you will enjoy as a more fit person. I notice a huge effect if I take a week off the gym, I can't even imagine how great it would be to lose 100 pounds. Do you 'fittit'? If not, check out the sub /xxfitness for ideas and support (not linking because of the knee jerk reaction I could ge… | /r/askTRP | 17/07/14 03:42 PM |
| 3 | BPers, I think a 42 year old man dating a 20 year old man is really gross. What do you think?HAHA, whoops, I meant to do that. ...carry on. Edit: Actually, my point is better made when I change the sexes, so let the record show.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/14 09:10 PM |
| 1 | BPers, I think a 42 year old man dating a 20 year old man is really gross. What do you think?Well malachiteweapon, I think it's really fucking gross and creepy. and that is relevant because how I emotionally respond to outliers in my conception of social norms equivocates to an ethical position. Also, he is young enough to be his son, so while he can work, vote, drink, join the military, and do a whole host of other adult things, he hasn't yet emotionally developed enough to deal with a tricksy man who sticks his penis in him. Besides, mens' brains don't stop growing until their mid-20s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/14 09:06 PM |
| 3 | Dogs can help you get a date and look more attractive: Especially alpha males.Sorry Slate, but 60s and 70s-era Archie Comics figured this out before you, LOL. | /r/TheRedPill | 15/07/14 12:46 PM |
| -1 | My Brothers WifeWhat’s the move? Start passing the shit tests. Wants you to bring in the food? Call the dog over and let him lick the plate. Crying about shotgun? Lean the seat back on her. Get slapped? Open your legs and beg her to slap your dick while pretending to convulse in orgasm. All these things are immature and douchey, but that's the point - you're not trying to fuck her, you just need to discourage bitchy behaviour through absurd behaviour. She'll either get tired of putting out her own fires or will… | /r/TheRedPill | 08/07/14 01:48 PM |
| 2 | Why playing hard to get doesn't work, and a better understanding of what's going on.To feel a loss you definitely need to have something in the first place, but that 'thing' is often not even tangible. Money, for example, doesn't even fit the bill, requiring an implicit social agreement to have any value. In many cases a mere possibility or opportunity - or even a subconscious sense of entitlement - is enough of a 'thing' to feel loss over. | /r/TheRedPill | 08/07/14 02:17 AM |
| 6 | Why playing hard to get doesn't work, and a better understanding of what's going on.Two things stand out: Part of it has to do with the human tendency to want what we can’t have. That’s probably the most common explanation I’ve seen offered on here, but it doesn’t fully explain what’s going on. It's a key phenomenon, but one made less useful because it's rarely paired with its underlying mechanism: loss aversion. We feel loss more acutely than we do a comparable gain. In other words, you'll be more negatively affected by a loss of $100 than you will be positively impacted by a … | /r/TheRedPill | 08/07/14 01:42 AM |
| 3 | "White Privilege" as the Neutron Bomb of Moral WarfareIt's not a force for progress or positive change, it's a form of moral warfare. That means it's not a constructive remark that improves the debate. Accurate summation. This tactic is not concerned with either the principle of debate that is supposed to infuse our public institutions, or in assessing the veracity of the target's claim which, incidentally, will always be easy to address with a little effort. Its intent is as you suggest: moral warfare. In other words, here is a value/moral that we… | /r/TheRedPill | 03/07/14 02:02 PM |
| 1 | Indirection is trickySimply don't spend any resource on the kid if you don't want to, be it time, money, whatever. Simple. Except that by virtue of a domestic arrangement - the kind invoked by concerns of AFBB which is a motivator for our hypothetical RP man regardless of incidence - this will occur within a variety of contexts, many of which do not necessitate 'shoving a kid down one's throat'. I really don't understand what you said here. An example is that if a woman decides that she doesn't want to date a RP man… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/14 03:42 PM |
| 2 | Indirection is trickyIt is probable that the mainstream norm would be that raising another man's child is an admirable act (and thus implicitly encouraged), but as I did not suggest it was a mainstream norm but rather a male RP value, I question the relevance of this your contribution. Did you not understand my point, or were you just looking for an excuse to post a paper? Anyway, ignoring that the paper targets a demographic not relevant to the discussion (i.e. cohabitating adults over the age of 51, 90% of whom we… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/14 03:33 PM |
| 4 | Indirection is trickyFirst, what you refer to as 'indirection' is better known by scientists as a 'proxy'. It's an entirely valid approach if a relationship is observed or demonstrated. Second, TRP is not concerned whether a sexual hack enjoys the appropriate p-value. Not only is it irrelevant whether or not any given proxy is supported by peer review, this is approach is consistent with the behaviour of all parties in the sexual marketplace regardless of 'pill' type. Third, you're missing the point in each of your … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/14 01:58 PM |
| 1 | Ideology and CompromiseI have a huge dislike for ideology in its non-literal form because it is intellectually lazy and promotes bad thinking by looking at a value position rather than structure of principle. People wrapped in ideology respond to your ideas not how you intended, but rather how they want to see them, framed for maximum offence. Any 'debate' is now operating from bad faith. This is the biggest problem with effecting identity politics and it continually surprises me that people opt for this choice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/14 01:07 PM |
| 4 | How do people find TRP misogynistic?Misanthropy, misandry, misogyny; all with the Greek prefix 'mis(o)' to denote hatred. Criticism of women? Categorization of gender and sex? Specification of women and issues? Expressions of bitterness and frustration? These things have nothing to do with hate. So what gives? Well, the word has been co-opted by a movement founded on identity politics: Identity politics are political arguments that focus upon the self-interest and perspectives of self-identified social interest groups and ways in … | /r/TheRedPill | 27/06/14 07:57 PM |
| 5 | Please ELI5: Holding FrameFrame is short for 'frame of reference' and refers to the concept that the same situation will appear differently to different observers. It is applied in everything from physics to politics. A good example of frame in journalism and politics is the recent kerfuffle over Canadian justice minister Peter McKay's gendered letters of thanks for his staff on Mother's Day and Father's Day. Opponents in the law community and press decided to frame the issue as sexist and have been pounding him in the m… | /r/TheRedPill | 27/06/14 02:25 PM |
| 22 | Man in his thirties wonders why his wife doesn't love him anymore and leads him on with excuse after excuse. Featuring "I am 35, with a successful 10+ year career, make over $150k/year, own a house and a new car."Let me begin by saying that my wife is a wonderful, outgoing, giving and trustworthy person. Notice the focus of his emotional energy. Is it little wonder why he's having such a difficult time? The man is completely sucked into his wife's frame and she is ragdolling him as a result. | /r/TheRedPill | 24/06/14 01:54 PM |
| 7 | What do you do about women crying at work?A decent system I saw employed was that when someone started crying they got a time out and had to go 'counsel' with an 'independent party' (i.e. someone from HR) while the rest of us continued the meeting/work. No one I know of kept stats but I am convinced this had the effect of limiting the tears since it was a) embarrassing to have to leave and b) having to leave meant there NO was mechanism for teary-eyed manipulation. | /r/TheRedPill | 24/06/14 03:34 AM |
| 3 | Repairing my life almost 30.I can understand the desire for more success with women, but the simple truth is that your life paradigm is broken and you need to get a new one. The first step is saving up enough money to fund a move OUT of your parents' house and OUT of your city. You will have no idea how much baggage each of those things represents until you have left them behind. When you have achieved that, continue to work/play poker, save and research REALISTIC CAREER OPTIONS. You want something that pays decently, has … | /r/askTRP | 24/06/14 03:10 AM |
| 1 | [question] Why do you think this subreddit is so hated on Reddit?Take Sheryl Sandberg's book. Straight from the horse's mouth, eh? It blows my mind that such a hailed female role model could be commended for distilling the politically-correct essence of AFBB and the wall while TRP is universally panned by the same audience. If this doesn't make you laugh or shake your head you're simply not paying attention. And your corollary for the son is 100% on point. | /r/TheRedPill | 24/06/14 02:39 AM |
| 2 | Let's discuss the push for "strong" female characters in moviesUndoubtedly 'strong female characters' are still largely limited to the failings mentioned in the link, yet to not acknowledge shows like Continuum and The 100, or movies like The Hunger Games and Divergent - four titles I was able to just rattle off the top of my head having watched each in the past six months - is just fucking sloppy. How many more could I come up with if I actually took the time? An article rejoicing in the real occurrence of 'strong female characters' just wouldn't have that… | /r/TheRedPill | 24/06/14 02:25 AM |
| 3 | Breakup Aftermath.Don't return gifts. Chuck them if you don't want them. If she has something of value that is yours, request it back specifically either directly or through an intermediary. | /r/askTRP | 20/06/14 05:40 PM |
| 3 | When you say something and are misunderstood in a negative way. What do?In the case of the first, smile, clarify with a strong presence, leave the wrong where it lies. The second is a shit test - respond accordingly. | /r/askTRP | 20/06/14 05:36 PM |
| 2 | Why is going to a club bad with a GF/LTR?Depends a lot on the city/scene. In many small cities 'clubs' are bars - don't sweat the trivial. | /r/TheRedPill | 20/06/14 03:25 PM |
| 3 | I think I passed my first shit test.Good job in not getting flustered and seeing for what it was. Keep maintaining an aware state of mind and this shit will get easier and easier. | /r/askTRP | 20/06/14 05:06 AM |
| 2 | How to give up on sex/women?Giving up on sex/women at your age is probably a lot harder and definitely much less satisfying than actually trying to address your flaws and exhibiting the patience and self-awareness to see them come into fruition. Do you think you have a good reason for giving up? Or is it just frustration and a lack of perspective? | /r/askTRP | 20/06/14 05:04 AM |
| 2 | How do you think I should have responded to this?Agree and amplify Demonstrate your value by socializing with other men and flirting with other women, largely ignoring her except to comment about how much fun X is and how you enjoyed meeting Y, etc. Indicate later after the festivities that you won't be tolerating such behaviour a second time; she will escalate this into either a fight or tears - shut it down BEFORE that happens | /r/askTRP | 19/06/14 05:42 AM |
| 2 | The 3 Stages of TruthA question I have for the community: 1 becomes 2 very easily. But is there any way to more easily traverse the gap between 2 & 3? I would think lots of RPers started out 1 to 3 more. Loosely applying the three-act structure, the shift from two to three represents something akin to the 'dark night of the soul'. At this point, a person has built up the conflict (both internal and external) to the extent that it has reached its logical conclusion and can go no further. They must decide which side t… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/06/14 05:37 PM |
| 20 | What is your go to response for "All guys want is sex?""Yep," with the biggest shit eating grin you can muster. Then you take their food, bounce, and go hang with someone who doesn't suck. | /r/askTRP | 13/06/14 04:35 AM |
| 2 | Who Knew I Was Not the Father?LOL, yeah, as if duplicity isn't an entirely valid principle in itself. Flip it around. If men could fuck around, be guaranteed paternity, and receive thousands of dollars a year for their trouble to no consequence except not having to listen to their dried-up ex-wife, it would be a national fucking crisis. | /r/TheRedPill | 12/06/14 06:02 PM |
| 8 | Shocking 2XC RevelationThe vast majority of questions about TwoX can be answered by a perusal of 'image fest friday'. | /r/TheRedPill | 08/06/14 02:51 PM |
| 1 | /r/sex and /r/relationships often propagate communication as the key to a healthy LTR. The more I read on The Red Pill, the more I start to believe that not communication, but rather action is key to a healthy LTR. What's TRP's thought on this?Communication can help frame action, but action is the primary mechanism. | /r/askTRP | 03/06/14 02:58 AM |
| 2 | Study of 16000 leaders shows that females are better business leaders than males.Assuming that the study is effectively valid and sound, it's not really a surprise that a minority of 3-4% 33% would average better than the remaining 96-97% 66% by 2.7%. I suspect this pattern generally holds for other minority groups such as racial minorities, youth, homosexuals, and the physically handicapped who have managed to break through cultural barriers on account of their exceptionalism. Edited ratios to include non-CEOs as per chart. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/14 05:19 AM |
| 1 | I need to talkI wrote more than I intended, but give it a read anyway: Assuming no other mental disorders apart from unipolar depression, I suspect the issue you have with your ex stems from the fact that you think she got one over on you. In other words, she played you, took advantage of you, made you feel weak, made a mockery of you, and despicably destroyed the image you had of yourself as a competent, strong, respectable, valuable, admirable man. I could be wrong on that front, but some of the things you'… | /r/askTRP | 22/05/14 05:33 PM |
| 9 | How hard do you actually work at your career? How Hard SHOULD you be working? ADVICE neededYou can almost think of careers as women viewed through a RP lens. Some men indeed find their work unicorn through a career that pays well and truly is their 'passion' (how I fucking hate that word). If that's you, great - your drive to create will come from a place that will not require such questions as, "am I doing the right thing?" or, "how much is enough?" Simply acting out the method will prove to be enough. However, for most men that won't be a reality, and that's something you should ide… | /r/TheRedPill | 20/05/14 04:02 PM |
| 1 | What is your TRP end goal, and how are you working towards it?Oh, it has an effect! I just take care to understand its place and where it may or may not be relevant to goals that do/will exceed the scope of women, sex, and relationships. | /r/TheRedPill | 09/05/14 05:39 PM |
| 2 | What is your TRP end goal, and how are you working towards it?how has TRP shaped your life and what goals has it made you begin to strive for? As far as I'm concerned, RP is just a mechanism for freeing up space in my life. I worry less about women, social status, relationships, and marriage now that I have a series of practical methods for managing that shit. I think trying to get any more out of RP is a mistake; it's the math for your science. | /r/TheRedPill | 09/05/14 05:20 PM |
| 1 | Top family judge calls for no-fault divorce for all and putting cohabitees on a par with married couplesLegislators in my province ruined common-law in the early 00s; you're on the hook for longer (i.e. three years after the dissolution of the relationship) if you are in an 'un-registered' common law relationship than if you're in a 'registered' common law relationship or marriage. So fucked up. To combat this, they have included a third option called a 'co-habitation agreement' which serves the original common law purpose, but as I doubt it's been tested in the courts, its efficacy is questionabl… | /r/TheRedPill | 09/05/14 03:10 PM |
| 1 | I need help, how to be a lone manI want to repress my libido, my instinctual desire for a female body. Please help. I would advise you to adopt an abundance mentality rather than an avoidance mentality. Instincts are much easier to 'turn off' if you legitimately, sincerely know that you could get your fix whenever you want. To that end - if you suck at game, are scared, or don't want to expend the effort at learning - finding a low-value relationship might be your most effective option at this stage in your development. This wa… | /r/askTRP | 08/05/14 05:12 PM |
| 1 | Beginner (at everything here), and looking to improveStep 1: Set your alarm for an hour earlier than normal Step 2: Go for an hour-long brisk walk before breakfast Step 3: Repeat this until it becomes a habit This is one of the easiest ways to begin losing weight which should be your first priority. You are a man, so everything stems from the physical, and your weight is THE limiting factor. Step 4 will be starting to figure out additional (and easy) exercises and ways to improve your diet, but this walking thing - since it is one of the easiest a… | /r/askTRP | 08/05/14 05:03 PM |
| 2 | Do you believe this is an example of an abusive relationship?Do I consider that an abusive relationship? I'm not sure. Do I think it could lead to an abusive relationship? Yes, definitely. Do I think it is a healthy relationship, one that I want to cultivate for myself, or Red Pill? No, no, and no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/14 03:31 PM |
| 0 | EvoPsych Question: if hypergamy is in-built to women, why isnt the desire to be alpha in-built to men?It would be interesting for scientists to look at whether or not such is the case. My own hasty supposition is that all men want to be the top dog, but the fear of being challenged or punished is a significant limiting factor. Even the most beta of neckbeards has no problem commanding the forces of a civilization to destroy his enemies on a computer screen. Desire and ease of application of leadership and alpha control are not in question; maintaining it through physical and social confrontation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/14 03:15 PM |
| 5 | Let's discuss fat/curvy womenBased on rule-of-thumb body fat % guides, the range I find attractive is generally between 15-30%, with the upper and lower ranges depending on frame proportions. I'll only have an issue with heavier women if their weight signifies an aspect of their personality that doesn't align with my values or standards. A curvy woman hitting the weights and eating 500+ TDEE will be way more attractive to me than a curvy woman eating 100+ TDEE while doing no physical activity at all. Throw in any sort of ra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/14 03:05 PM |
| 0 | Discussion: BP and RP Thoughts on "Black Knighting"?I don't condone black-knighting, but that's a completely different issue than if it, in fact, works. This is yet another case conflating the descriptive with the prescriptive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/14 05:19 PM |
| 2 | Is sex actually worth the trouble TRP goes through to get it?Short answer, no. For me, the issue is about freedom. This is why I prefer my LTR; I can cultivate greater intimacy and higher quality sex with my partner with a lower investment and achieve a guarantee, which frees up a lot of my emotional and mental energy to be used in other things. If our relations degrade to a point where they are no longer are a guarantee, my RP psychological framework affords me the freedom to move on, rather than be trapped in a situation of powerlessness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/14 05:15 PM |
| 1 | Question about the "what can you offer a man besides sex?" question...Are companionship and a good personality not considered things that can be offered? Of course! These things are key. The issue is whether woman actually does offer these things, or merely believes she does because past partners have stuck around solely for sex. The context for this question is that a successful man with an abundance mentality has the option to act on this discernment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/14 05:07 PM |
| 1 | If TRP is concerned with becoming a better man, why not become the alpha you want to be and pull the chicks that you want?Mods, spill in aisle 3. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/04/14 10:16 PM |
| 1 | What do I do next? How do I choose and decide my "life mission"?What's the meaning of your life? Are you a theist or atheist? Do you think a career will give you that meaning? Is it better to consume or create? Do you live a life focused on methods or results? | /r/askTRP | 17/04/14 03:54 PM |
| 3 | Let's talk about dread game some moreNothing in this post is exclusive to either end member of the 'talk it out' or 'dread game' continuum. Also, it would be 'selfless' to just never stand up for yourself in a relationship, but that is neither love nor healthy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/14 01:56 PM |
| 7 | Let's talk about dread game some moreThere's a view that all relationship problems can be solved by intellectual discussion. In my experience, this is not the case; some issues can be resolved this way, but some are only resolved by instilling a fear that if things don't change, it's over. Whether this is intentional abuse or an unintentional preference for action rather than talk is up for debate; the point is that it can be effective, and can lead to greater relationship satisfaction by obvious metrics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/14 11:59 PM |
| 0 | For those who believe male-dominated relationships are best, what qualifies a man to make life decisions for a woman? Why do you prefer to shoulder the responsibility of the relationship's wellbeing instead of sharing it like a more typical couple?I don't advocate for anything except whatever benefits the individual. Put two people together and even with concessions made for comparative advantage, one person is going to be the dominant one who assumes responsibility for decision-making and leadership. In my case, I am more independent than inter-dependent, so I dislike following someone else's lead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/14 11:53 PM |
| 1 | Any of you ok with female straying, either in one or two momentary, fleeting fling or on the regular, as long as she's discreet about it in an implicit "don't ask, don't tell" arrangement?First, I know I will never cheat, therefore, I believe others are capable of not cheating regardless of gender/sex. Second, I would be very sure I had convincing evidence, then I would confront and break up. If I had suspicions, I would try to find evidence. If I couldn't find evidence yet still had a suspicion that I could not ignore, I would consider ending the relationship since that is stopping me from trusting my partner and forming a legitimate relationship. Third, no cheating is acceptabl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/14 11:05 PM |
| 2 | The map is not the territoryIt seems that many people are pulling information from TRP and then considering their maps complete with this new information. Or maybe some people completely replace their maps with what TRP preaches and then leave it at that. This is bad for your mental health and guarantees failure. This is also promises depression and anxiety. On point. It's just a shitty method in general. As soon as you let others dictate your principles and/or the analysis of your experiences, you're effecting the antithe… | /r/TheRedPill | 14/04/14 07:16 PM |
| 1 | [Meta] What to me (long time redditor) makes this sub more legitimate than many others.Ultimately it always concludes with the bigotry that in the absence of evidence (a scientific study which they find to be of repute) that the hypothesis must be deduced false/incorrect. When the irony to this is, science sets to either prove or disprove the hypothesis but claims no certainty until either has been achieved, these people use the absence of scientific proof to say the hypothesis must be wrong, this is a hasty generalisation, as there is no proof here to say these things are wrong. … | /r/TheRedPill | 10/04/14 03:02 PM |
| 3 | Think I lost my gf for being "beta". Need AdviceTL;DR: This is a textbook case of losing frame. In everything that you wrote, the only relevant piece is this: "...her reason for leaving me is that she needs to figure herself out..." In my experience, women do NOT want to 'figure themselves out'; they want someone to do it for them. They want to be told what to do. I don't mean this in the get-me-a-beer-bitch kind of way since that is simplistic, naive, disrespectful and, in some cases, abusive. I mean this in the way of maintaining frame and … | /r/askTRP | 06/04/14 04:38 PM |
| 2 | What explanation does TRP give for gay people and trans gender people?...it's more like I'm wondering how gay behavior is explained in a world where everything surrounds biological/evolutionary imperative. First, good on you for asking, but at a fundamental level, this is more of a question to pose to evolutionary biology than TRP. And the answer is that variance in gender, sex, and sexual orientation across individuals of a population occurs because it can; our biology allows for it. However that doesn't preclude the existence of either common evolutionary roles … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/14 06:08 PM |
| 2 | Modern Women Have Nothing of Lasting Value to Offer MenI would look at it this way: Respect her inherent capacity as an autonomous human being to exhibit reason and agency, like you would any man. Despise the ephemeral ends to which she currently uses that reason and agency in service to a flawed culture, like you would any man who denies his masculinity. Love the practical freedom her actions afford you within that flawed culture, arising as a very real, yet unintended consequence. | /r/TheRedPill | 03/04/14 02:40 PM |
| 1 | Just some food for thought, comparing blue pill and atheismThat would make sense if TBP made any assertions, but it doesn't. This is the cop out. "Oh, it's just satire, blah blah, blah." Of course TBP makes assertions; just because they are passive and indirect doesn't negate the existence of positive belief. Like TRP, the BP label itself is meaningless because it functions as a convenient proxy for the beliefs, ethics, and principles of group of individuals. Behind every refutation of RP is a positive belief about men and women and their respective exp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/14 01:05 AM |
| 2 | Just some food for thought, comparing blue pill and atheismYes, really. If it is established that there is a difference or differences between men and women and/or their respective experiences as men or women, then those differences can be substantiated in empirical fact. Period. This isn't some idealized deductive construction where a single exception disproves the rule, no matter how much you wish that were the case. If a RP idea or hypothesis is not currently substantiated by existing research, then the BP construction does not stand by default void … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/14 12:38 AM |
| 2 | Just some food for thought, comparing blue pill and atheismYou seem to be saying in your post that the core dogma is 'men and women are different. No, that's what you think I am saying because you aren't following the argument. I have stated nothing about the 'core dogma' of TRP - not even fucking close - and only used that phrase to substantiate common terms with you after you brought it up with, "The 'core tenant' or dogma..." I am responding to the OP's construction that TRP is like theism and TBP is like atheism, instead arguing that if you accept t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/14 12:04 AM |
| 2 | Just some food for thought, comparing blue pill and atheismA minor nitpick, but a spectrum of differences, while perhaps not assumed, could certainly be generalized; that is exactly what is meant by asserting there is a difference. For example, a binary comparison of cats and dogs would find that body sizes - or any relevant personality trait - range over a spectrum with overlap, but in general dogs are larger than cats. Anyway, what I am suggesting is that if Bluepillars reject the core dogma of RP, then they must be able to substantiate their own alte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/14 11:38 PM |
| 1 | Just some food for thought, comparing blue pill and atheismIn superficial terms I'd agree that BP is reactionary to RP in a manner akin to how atheism is reactionary to theism. However, the actual representation of atheism/theism is extremely narrow (i.e. characterized as, "God exists/does not exist") and thus a comparable RP/BP construction would be, "Men and women are (not) different." This provides an interesting entry point because if Bluepillers agree that men and women are different, then they along with Redpillers are like two theists who agree t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/14 10:21 PM |
| 3 | AgeismI shouldn't find it shocking that while you have been entirely civil throughout this whole thread and even state that the discussion shouldn't necessarily focus on your entirely ethical and legal case, you have been personally attacked numerous times from self-identified 'emotionally mature' posters on the basis of outright logical fallacies (e.g. because a woman's brain doesn't stop growing until 25, your relationship is invalid - complete non-sequitur) and aesthetic morality (i.e. I personally… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/14 09:56 PM |
| 2 | Do certain Myers-Briggs personality types make for better LTRs?In terms of relationships and sexual strategy, at the very least I think a person should understand which 'quadra' they belong to. The reason for this is two-fold: Behaving in a way that is attractive to types in your quadra may be a turn off or even repulsive to those types who are in a conflicting quadra. In a broad sense this is why your favourite party animal friend is just a drama queen trainwreck to others, or that one person who is rock fucking solid and always has the most amazing insigh… | /r/TheRedPill | 01/04/14 08:09 PM |
| 1 | Do certain Myers-Briggs personality types make for better LTRs?MBTI INTP is probably an INTp/ILI (Intutive Logical Introvert), though also check out the descriptions for INTj/LII (Logical Intuitive Introvert) because sometimes there's a j/p flip when switching between MBTI and Socionics for introverted types. If INTp, your 'dual' (the person you get along best with) would be an ESFp/SEE and your conflictor would be an ESFj/ESE. | /r/TheRedPill | 01/04/14 07:52 PM |
| 3 | Do certain Myers-Briggs personality types make for better LTRs?If you're interested in Socionics, check out Wikisocion. The site is a bit cluttered, but as an MBTI ENTP, you'll want to look at stuff pertaining to ENTp/ILE (Intuitive Logical Extrovert): example type According to the model, your 'conflictor' would be the ISFj/ESI: example It's a lot of info and people get wayyy too far down the rabbit hole for their own good, so be warned. I stick to its descriptive quality and use it as a means for understanding why some people I meet feel like an old friend… | /r/TheRedPill | 01/04/14 07:38 PM |
| 4 | Do certain Myers-Briggs personality types make for better LTRs?As a descriptive system I think it is highly relevant, but I tend toward Socionics for this purpose rather than MBTI. The former organizes the 16 types into four quadras, each with their own characteristics and interquadra relationships. So, for example, as an ESTj or ISTp (delta quadra) I conflict strongly with ENFjs and INFps (beta quadra). The jargon makes it sounds hokey as shit, but it is surprisingly informative when I consider with whom I most conflict and get-along. | /r/TheRedPill | 01/04/14 07:22 PM |
| 1 | What do you think of the consensual cuckolding fetish?Yep, I hear ya. It's not something I would seek or tolerate in my own sexual dealings, but I am very liberal on matters of consent when it comes to others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 08:00 PM |
| 3 | What do you think of the consensual cuckolding fetish?I don't understand the exact mechanism behind the cuckold fetish, but as a sexual fetish is much, much different than the reality of a man being reproductively-duped, I don't see a valid comparison. It's not a 1-to-1 analogy, but you may as well ask me what I think of someone borrowing my car seeing as I am against someone stealing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 07:49 PM |
| 0 | Overprotectiveness of women crippling themTrue, I am just wondering whether or not in our narrow section of humankind whether the OP had scoped out certain subgroups in the male demographic based on age/interest/education/etc. that are more prone to risk aversion or less resilient in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 07:41 PM |
| 2 | Overprotectiveness of women crippling themGreat fucking post. Many young men are also discouraged from taking risks, especially certain risk-averse subcultures I know. Would you be willing to expand on this? As an older Gen Y raised in a very risk-averse nation (Canada), I find this topic fascinating and love reading about others' impressions on the issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 07:18 PM |
| 6 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?Adjusted proportionally as well. It amazes me that you actually had to clarify this. Jesus fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 03:25 PM |
| 3 | Men of the red pill, what is your objective for being here? Learning to get laid or ultimately finding something more meaningful?I'm in a LTR seeking to maximize its quality. I was 'already red', so to speak, so I'm here mostly to observe what happens to the community (e.g. whether it progresses, falls prey to identity politics, etc.). | /r/TheRedPill | 27/03/14 08:44 PM |
| 10 | Using her words against her?It's mostly being a douche. The reason is because that response is designed to demean rather than institute positive behaviour and division of duties. Remember that an ideal outcome would be you eating your dessert in peace with her acting like a functional adult and getting her own. Yeah, you could point out the inconsistent logic jokingly like you might do if amused by a difficult child that you are patronizing good-naturedly, but unless you have excellent frame you will fuck it up. Instead, i… | /r/askTRP | 26/03/14 05:07 PM |
| 1 | MoralityWho's the 'we'? Using some flair would help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/14 06:16 PM |
| 1 | MoralityUnfortunately, there is no 'philosophy' of TRP in the literal sense of what it means for there to be a 'philosophy of X'. You have not substantiated, then, what you mean by your colloquial use of 'philosophy' - did you mean ideology (or something else), and do you believe TRP actually constitutes that? Regardless of your meaning, in the context of your analogy, are you arguing that specific nations are extreme, or that the extremity of certain nations demonstrates the extremity of nationalism? T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/14 05:56 PM |
| 1 | Iama BP male. AMAA couple TRP-related questions: Since generalities derive from populations, and a binary state of two generalizations necessitates a ranking (e.g. either men or women must have a higher income than the other), who do you believe is more responsible on an qualified basis of responsibility, within the context of, "the most responsible teenager in the house," men or women? In keeping with the reality of generalizations and binary states, do you believe a man ceding his frame and submitting to a wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/14 05:39 PM |
| 1 | [X-post from TBP] What do TRPers think about this -study that shows that men and women are equally likely to cheat, power levels being equal?So people with ability will effect agency to maximize their personal pleasure? Colour me amazed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/14 05:00 PM |
| 3 | How do you define sexism and bigotry?I think words like sexism and bigotry are ascribed more pejorative power than necessarily warranted. For example, if I generally think white women are more attractive than black or Asian women, am I racist? I am making that distinction based on race, so in a literal sense I must be. However, this is a far cry from wanting to deny basic human rights to non-whites or believing in a biological superiority of Caucasians. Nor does it negate my hypothetical preference to sleep with Beyonce Knowles bef… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/14 04:49 PM |
| 3 | What is so enlightening about the red pill ?I mean honestly, if you peel back the pseudo science it's the same advice you could find anywhere. This is actually what I consider to be the hilarious and delightful thing about the controversy. Many of the principles and maxims are what could be communicated by any experienced bachelor to a young man without so much as a blink. However, when you take that collection of knowledge and couch it in offensive language and unabashed moral judgment in an unapologetic man-space, holy shit, watch the f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/14 04:31 PM |
| 2 | MoralityTRP comprises a set of amoral principles based on observation that individual actors interpret in a moral context. That the latter phenomenon commonly occurs does not necessitate it as a function of the former. In other words, to accept the amoral statement, "women are hypergamous" is not to accept the moralistic statement, "trading up is despicable" anymore than the statement, "the speed limit is 100 km/hr" means, "speeding is unsafe." Yes, it's true that RP men often make these leaps, and yes,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/14 04:21 PM |
| 1 | Question for RedPillers: What is your origin story?I got the impression you think BP objections to RP ideas stem primarily from getting their feathers ruffled by rough language. If we both agree that that isn’t the case, I’m happy to let it go. I haven't stopped by the bluepill sub in some time, but when I last did the facetious, SRS-like nature of nearly every single thread conveyed that perception. That said, I am extending that net beyond that sub to those users I've observed in subs like AskReddit, AskMen, AskWomen, and TwoXChromosomes who h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/14 02:06 AM |
| 1 | Question for RedPillers: What is your origin story?There are no gendered slurs in "women don't mature past adolescence"--no obvious bitterness, no anger or offensive language. I am still speaking broadly to the view proposed by non-RP users that TRP in its entirety is X, Y, and Z as a consequences of a range of factors they find offensive. Your particular example is one instance of this phenomenon, so whether it specifically does or does not have a gender-slur is irrelevant to the broader point that it is offensive. Is it really so hard to belie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/14 01:13 AM |
| 2 | Question for RedPillers: What is your origin story?I have never thought of it in those terms, but it's true in a descriptive sense: if you're the type to be offended, you're likely not the type to stick around long enough to see if the ideas resonate with you. I'd have to give extra thought to its moral meaning, if there is one (e.g. the idea that said reaction might indicate character). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/14 12:48 AM |
| 3 | Question for RedPillers: What is your origin story?It struck me that you were trying to argue that your interpretations are the right ones; ie. the true message, the one that’s left when you strip away the offensive lingo that trips all those BPers up. No, I was thinking more in conceptual terms of how generalizations are derived, treated, employed, and received. They generally derive from a sample, are treated in varying degrees of rigor to establish a very narrow truth, point, or moral that is often employed by an emotional conduit, and then f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/14 11:39 PM |
| 0 | Why are redpillers so unexpectedly lacking in skepticism about stories about women, field reports, etc?What should I and other readers assume about the veracity of TRP Field Reports? I can't decide that for someone because it's their responsibility to determine that veracity. I constantly encounter information that is incomplete or erroneous, so I use my reason, knowledge, and experience to make a determination of where it likely falls on the continuum of true, likely, probable, plausible, unlikely, false. Then I asses how relevant it is, and how my values react to it, and make a tentative placem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/14 10:04 PM |
| 5 | Question for RedPillers: What is your origin story?I think it's a bit disingenuous to imply that TRP is just harmless generalizations couched in angry language. The statement "women do not mature past adolescence" does not become innocuous just because your personal takeaway is something less extreme. It would be disingenuous if I argued my takeaway extended across the board. Since there is no means to quantify what the general takeaway is of the intended audience, I'm not going to do that; nor am I trusting that a self-selected, self-reporting … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/14 09:22 PM |
| 1 | Question for RedPillers: What is your origin story?I'm glad we agree those three statements aren't objectively true, but they certainly seem to be presented that way in TRP; they are sidebar material, after all. It's easy to forget what generalizations actually represent when they are couched in angry and bitter language. This creates a huge PR problem with TRP since it essentially reduces criticism to a generalized ad hominem (e.g. "everyone is a misogynist therefore they're wrong."). If you are the type to not be distracted by harsh language, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/14 07:38 PM |
| 1 | Financial AbortionThere is a disparity in freedom of choice based on unchanging biology; this is, by definition, discriminatory. IMO, the male partner should have the option of 'financial abortion' and there should be a public program - 'maternity insurance', as it were - implemented to support the mother for a period of time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/14 07:18 PM |
| 2 | Question for RedPillers: What is your origin story?Many appear to have some truth, but it's not an objective measure. Like most responsible teenager in the house... I identify as an equity feminist in the literal sense so I don't think of her as a teenager, but if you watch the power dynamic and our resultant behaviour it certainly looks like that. I make nearly all of the decisions and when it comes to something she wants, she very frequently phrases it as if asking for permission. I don't necessarily like this, but she has more of a passive pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/14 07:03 PM |
| 0 | Why are redpillers so unexpectedly lacking in skepticism about stories about women, field reports, etc?You don't get any points for demonstrating RP selection bias when the post you were replying to did the exact same thing in service to a broader point. Yes, selection bias exists, but no, it does not matter as much as you want to believe it does. Consider some idealized account of rape posted on the sub TwoX. everybody does it If that TwoX post is unverified, does that discredit the content of that entire sub? No, of course not. stories while untrue confirm my beliefs because I've seen it in my … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/14 06:38 PM |
| 0 | Why are redpillers so unexpectedly lacking in skepticism about stories about women, field reports, etc?Let's assume that your criticism is valid and sound; it still manages to miss the point. All of Reddit's self-identified socio-political subs operate on this principle Verification of Reddit-specific accounts is not required to substantiate real occurrences Established probability of real occurrence is not necessary for mitigation when personal risk is absolute | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/14 05:48 PM |
| 0 | Why are redpillers so unexpectedly lacking in skepticism about stories about women, field reports, etc?First, many of the popular submissions do contain posts of skepticism or incredulity, so while it's true there is no standard vetting process, to say skepticism is lacking or absent is incorrect. Second, the nature of TRP is that whether a submission is verified or objectively true is secondary to its moral. It doesn't matter if user 'sexythrowaway42069' actually got cheated on by his girlfriend or not - many RP posters have witnessed or experienced that exact same thing, and that example serves… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/14 04:52 PM |
| 1 | This is kind of a dumb question, so I apologize but I am curious. Why isn't the RedPill more...well...fun?Negativity is equally effective as positivity in affirming the principles of any self-identified group. We'd have a difficult time finding a single economic, political, social, or cultural group that does not use negativity to jolly the faithful. As well, it can be flat out fun. Why do we watch TV, read stories, and gossip about others? We all enjoy the misery of others. The person who doesn't is living alone off the grid in a log cabin. Apart from some concern trolling from those who value tact… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/14 04:26 PM |
| 4 | How many men does it take to screw in a light bulb?Red Pill: One - I saw it, so I am replacing it. MGTOW: None. I reject the notion both that artificial light is required and that I am obligated to change it. Besides, the TV is backlit. Men's Rights: ...Why does the man always have to do it? Feminist: None. Women are FULLY capable of screwing in a lightbulb. ... ...why haven't you changed it for me yet? Blue Pill: Oooh, ohhh! Sorry about that, let me do it for you - sorry! Rad Fem: Artificial light is privilege and ableism, but since I am a post… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/14 03:50 PM |
| 8 | My marriage and possible divorce - Thoughts from the Red PillIt doesn't sound like your wife was socialized very well, so no you're probably not ever going to get much empathy from her. I know you've been told this line that marriage is a team game where you both give and receive mutual support, blah, blah, blah. It's bullshit. You are a man, so stop expecting that anyone gives a single fuck about your feelings. They don't. Your role is to raise your children so that they can grow up knowing that they had a father who loved and supported them unconditiona… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/02/14 04:56 PM |
| 1 | Bill does the dishesWhat do you all think? I think if a man has taken an action by his own initiative and volition, according to his values and judgment, it is a 'proper' action. Apply that to doing the dishes, starting your own business, or any other action. For me, the problem would be if the other partner (female OR male, depending on orientation) demanded it or somehow bullied the man into performing that action. I don't see mowing the lawn or building an extension on the house as a 'male' or 'alpha' task if th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/14 03:50 PM |
| 3 | How long until red pill views become mainstream?Probably not that long. Keep in mind that when 'ladder theory' came out in the early to mid 00s, people vehemently criticized and denied its relevance; now the word 'friend-zone' is well-inculcated into the popular lexicon with various ideological groups having a different take on why it exists. A concept starts becoming mainstream when people stop debating the 'is' (i.e. the observation of a phenomenon happening) and instead focus on the 'ought' (i.e. the explanation/rationalization for why it … | /r/TheRedPill | 28/01/14 10:40 PM |
| 1 | What was the event that led you to take the pill?Went through a horrible, horrible breakup when I was 25: basically take the worst of ever beta story you've ever seen on here and combine it with a woman who was a bipolar alpha widow. Yep, it was that bad. After about a month of depression and self-pity, something just clicked inside and I had the epiphany that everything that had happened was 100% my fault. Everything from getting involved with her in the first place, to my expectations, to her behaviour, etc. was My. Fault. Period. This reali… | /r/TheRedPill | 17/01/14 07:07 PM |
| 16 | /u/YungSnuggie details the NBA Hoe Game (xpost /r/bestof)That is what is so hilarious about this trainwreck - anti-TRPers gleefully espousing TRP concepts. Cons come in all genders, if men could get a cozy 18 year stipend from fucking Hillary Clinton there would be a line of thirst wrapped around the white house. No shit. THAT IS THE FUCKING POINT. The only thing more bizarre is dropping 'bitches' and 'hoes' left and right and getting internet fist-bumps from white, male, equity feminists. We truly live in a post-modern world. | /r/TheRedPill | 08/01/14 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Can't believe the balls of some girlsThere are different and could be better ways to play it, but seriousness itself does not necessitate failing a test. You can care about something and not lose frame if you state an unequivocal expectation: "No, bring your purse." The trick is in whose frame you are qualifying (mine) while simultaneously apportioning responsibility (she pays). This is akin to telling the new intern to finish his task first when he asks if he can take a smoke break. Sure, he's 'shit testing' you to see what he can… | /r/TheRedPill | 08/01/14 05:50 AM |
| 4 | Can't believe the balls of some girlsYou: okay, sounds good XYZplace at XYZtime. Her: Okay, are you paying? You: No, bring your purse. Her: Wow. You: I'll be happy to pay when I know you're worth it. Her: You asked me to hangout haha bye You: See you at XYZtime. | /r/TheRedPill | 08/01/14 03:35 AM |
| 1 | Alpha careersUsually one of Manitoba, Ontario, or Quebec. I stick to Archean terranes for the most part. You in the industry? | /r/TheRedPill | 06/01/14 07:19 AM |
| 2 | Alpha careersAhh, you must be working in the great down under? I know of several former classmates who are down there. Me, I am in Canada. | /r/TheRedPill | 06/01/14 07:17 AM |
| 9 | Alpha careersGeologist - probably averages around a 6 since what I do (~8) is far more 'alpha' than what people conceive that I do (~4). Let's see - I pilot all things trucks, ATVs, snowmobiles, side-by-sides, and boats to get to the job site. I will often float plane into an area, or get dropped off by helicopter. I carry bear bangers and spray for brown and black bears, and firearms for polar bears. I am trained in wilderness first aid and survival. I've had to rescue co-workers in an ATV accident two sepa… | /r/TheRedPill | 06/01/14 03:13 AM |
| 3 | I know we shouldnt put up with women bragging about their sexual past, but how to tell them you wont tolerate it? What about when she questions your own sexual past?There's shit testing and then there are malicious attacks. The former may be conscious or sub-conscious, but they are intended to modify your focus to her: 'pay attention to me', 'qualify yourself to me', 'allow me to direct and control you for my own benefit', etc. It's a battle of shiny objects being dangled in your face, and if you bat at it, you lose a point. The latter, however, are consciously designed to drive the knife in deep. They are there to cut. They range from disregard to contempt… | /r/TheRedPill | 27/12/13 04:13 AM |
| 1 | Conflict managementHow to handle these situations right? Every conflict will have a debrief (sometimes much longer than necessary); use that as an opportunity to privately communicate your position. | /r/TheRedPill | 26/12/13 10:42 PM |
| 27 | I know we shouldnt put up with women bragging about their sexual past, but how to tell them you wont tolerate it? What about when she questions your own sexual past?Bingo. If some other man being 'better' was such a big deal, then she could go back to him and you could upgrade. People forget that the issue is not whether your wife thinks she's had better than you; the issue is that she thought she was entitled to display open contempt and blatantly disrespect you. | /r/TheRedPill | 26/12/13 09:46 PM |
| 5 | What is the reason TRP is not so cosy with r/MensRights?I think MRA have their place, and they will probably have the success they are looking for since that same shrill tone has been effective for feminists. I wish them the best as I am sure men will benefit. However, like the person in a car crash whining about how the roads are too icy, or the other guy cut him off, or how the lights turn colour at the wrong time, or how the guy who was going faster didn't crash, blah, blah - insert excuse avoiding personal responsibility - I don't want to be that… | /r/TheRedPill | 26/12/13 05:46 PM |
| 2 | "I always find myself around more guy friends than girls!"I disagree. I really don't know how you could claim to be a hockey fan and not understand the roles of the lines, or some of the basic rules like how offsides work, what determines where the faceoff occurs, or what a defensive trap is. It's elementary shit - not knowing that pretty much makes watching a live game impossible to follow. Pick whatever hobby or sport you want - there are the people who are into it, and then there are the people who pretend to be into it. | /r/TheRedPill | 24/12/13 03:20 AM |
| 13 | "I always find myself around more guy friends than girls!"Rough breakdown: First line: High offense, high profile/salary, powerplay unit, rarely used in penalty kill Second line: Med-high offense, more defensive 'two-way' play; can be relied on for primary scoring if first line gets shut down Third line: High defense, used to shut down opposing team's first line; used often in penalty kill, good teams have an offensive third line for 'scoring depth'; should have an effective face-off winner for defensive zone puck drops Fourth line: Energy line, bump '… | /r/TheRedPill | 22/12/13 07:10 PM |
| 65 | "I always find myself around more guy friends than girls!"I have never bothered, or been able to identify the mechanism at play here, but I discovered this in my mid-20s. Oh, you are going out of your way to tell me how much better you get along with men than women? That's hamster-speak for, 'someone else's cock is going to slip into my mouth between months 3-12 in this relationship.' | /r/TheRedPill | 22/12/13 04:41 PM |
| 38 | "I always find myself around more guy friends than girls!"This one is super easy to call out where I am from, since the only important sport is hockey. "Who's on the second line of the [insert team]?" It's pretty rare to find someone who can answer. The hamster usually comes up with, "oh, I don't really follow the team that closely, I just like the game." Okay, so if you just 'like the game', what is the role of the second line? ... Yup. | /r/TheRedPill | 22/12/13 04:37 PM |
| 3 | I'm a beta in need of help. Everything I'm reading makes perfect sense, but applying is difficult after a rough end to a 5-year relationship.I want to care less. This is the root of your problem: you care wayyy too much about women and how they affect you. Fill your life with things that inherently direct your mental and emotional energy AWAY from women. Whether that is your job, friends, family, or hobbies, it doesn't matter. All that matters is that you have a finite amount of things you can think about in a day, and less amount you spend thinking about women and sex, the better. Once you reach a point where the balance of your men… | /r/askTRP | 28/11/13 06:48 PM |
| -5 | Career AdviceHaha, you sound really young and naive. Come talk to me in ten years when you have ruined your 'passion' on shit endeavors that bear no fruit. Doing something you're 'passionate' about is the modern Gen Y myth and the male equivalent of finding a soul mate. Have fun chasing unicorns! | /r/TheRedPill | 28/11/13 02:22 PM |
| 3 | Career AdviceWhat would you do in my position? Never use the word 'passion' again, or at least not in the context of my career. Over the short-term, try to get involved with projects or positions that offer raises or opportunity to handle more money/responsibility. Begin a second degree or professional certification in another field that can be completed part-time or by distance. This is essentially what I am doing with my own career track. | /r/TheRedPill | 27/11/13 10:14 PM |
| 2 | Why is r/theredpill so loathed?Willful misrepresentation or not, who can say for sure? But if you peruse The Blue Pill, for example, you will see targets being drawn around certain quotes a la the Texas sharpshooter. This does not lessen specific criticism, nor is this approach unique to TRP detractors (as they would say the same about the content of this sub), but it does illustrate one major tactic being used in the broader political game. It's fun to watch, but it does result in needless polarization that encourages talkin… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/11/13 10:42 PM |
| 4 | Why is r/theredpill so loathed?Why do they try to paint the red pill as something it isn't? Because there are cases where users on this sub-reddit do say some absurd, hateful, or horrific things. Unfortunately, when you have a political axe to grind, that's what grabs the attention. The rest of us who are well-adjusted men who do NOT 'hate' women but realize there is a gender dynamic at play and want to learn how to exploit it for mutual benefit get drowned out by the shrieks and howls. See: the entire field of public relatio… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/11/13 10:00 PM |
| 1 | Domain dependenceTaleb's a good read; really enjoyed The Black Swan. Haven't kept up with him though, so I'll have to check this out. Domain dependence is a key concept. How many times do men in this sub obsess about their interactions with women when much of the red pill is as easily applicable to other, non-sexual parts of their life? | /r/TheRedPill | 15/11/13 10:02 PM |
| 3 | I am looking for advice on meditationDon't know much about meditation, but this book has a chapter on it and is a good read for other reasons: The Willpower Instinct: How Self-Control Works, Why It Matters, and What You Can Do To Get More of It | /r/TheRedPill | 14/11/13 06:07 PM |
| 4 | I am somewhat confused about TRP and how it views sex. [Serious replies only, please.]I will give you my take as a 30 year old male professional in a 4-year relationship. are TRP men anti-feminists? Are they misogynistic? Or do they believe that men and women are on the same level, and just get frustrated with feminists who are man-hating? I would consider myself an equity feminist, in that sense that your sex or gender does not determine which rights you have. Why is the ideal woman to have as few sexual partners as possible... It's more aesthetics than ethics; do you want the u… | /r/TheRedPill | 04/11/13 07:33 PM |
| 3 | How do you handle "What are you looking for?" / "What do you want?"I'm hoping to get insight and thoughts on this. First of all, you know what you want, so don't let yourself be tricked into thinking there is a correct answer. The correct answer is whatever you decide it is. Second, you need to realize that question was an invitation for you to take control of the conversation since you likely missed an earlier opportunity to set the tone. She should have been too busy worrying about justifying her responses to you than to be able to ask that question. | /r/askTRP | 23/09/13 09:22 PM |
| 3 | TRP, how has baggage affected your relationship?Excluding a legit mental illness, how much baggage a women has depends on how much you are willing to let into the relationship. It really is that simple. | /r/askTRP | 23/09/13 09:06 PM |
| 3 | I start university in a couple of weeks, general tips and advice?that will improve my life At the very least be more serious about your studies than the people around you that you will encounter and form friendships with. And keep in mind that represents a starting point, not an end. Too many kids piss away the opportunity university affords them for intellectual and professional development in favour of cheap thrills and shitty bro stories. You will be doing your future self a great service if you avoid that mistake. | /r/askTRP | 09/09/13 06:00 PM |
| 1 | I'm having a quarter life crisis.You list four critical factors playing into your discontent, but from what I can tell, at least three of them are based on concerns completely external to your control and experience. That is not to say they are therefore unimportant or invalid, but I'd recommend devoting some time to figuring out why what others do is so critical to your emotional well-being. Part of being a man is determining your own values and creating your own reality; you can factor in externals for context and insight, bu… | /r/askTRP | 09/09/13 05:54 PM |
| 5 | Seeking Red Pill Career Advice... Are you 'passionate' about what you do?I heard this fucking line so many times during my undergrad: "Geology is my passion! I am so passionate about rocks!" etc., ad nauseam. The worst part is, it still hangs around in my professional life; I just had a former colleague on LinkedIn congratulate me on a new contract with the phrase, "isn't it so great you get to do what you are passionate about?" Good god. Despite being very interested in geology and Earth history, and being very good at my job, I have never - not once - been passiona… | /r/askTRP | 08/09/13 11:53 PM |
| 0 | Don't Ever Talk To Your Ex. Seeking Help.Give it to me straight. This biggest pain men cause themselves is giving up power to others and then feeling like a victim. The first step in avoiding that is not having any expectations for anyone but yourself. If you project your values on other people - i.e."I was in shock and awe, and much like some of you thought their first girlfriend was legitimately different than other girls" - then you are responsible for the pain you cause yourself. The good news is you appear to understand this at le… | /r/askTRP | 25/08/13 02:27 PM |
| 2 | Meanwhile, over in /r/relationships, some poor guy finds out that his two-year old daughter isn't his...Jesus fuck, why do people insist on deleting the OP? | /r/TheRedPill | 23/08/13 08:09 PM |
| – | Has this sub ruined your trust in women?I would say it hasn't ruined trust, but rather has exposed how misplaced expectations incongruent with reality can impact your self-esteem and emotional state. | /r/askTRP | |
| – | I'm so very jaded...All your relationships, be they personal or professional, follow a leadership/management dynamic. Leadership is associated with a vision for what the future of that relationship will look like, as informed by a consistent set of values or principles. Management represents the tools or methods used for achieving that vision. In focusing so much on frame, sounds to me like you have mistaken the tools for the vision, and have improperly applied the tools in a way that has compromised at least some … | /r/askTRP |
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