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True
/r/seduction24/01/25 02:57 AM
1

She was hurt a fair bit so I do understand why and why she needs to. Just a sad part of life to have something beautiful have to end
/r/seduction23/01/25 07:14 PM
1

Yeah I get the nothing is permanent. Older I get the more I see that which is good. Helps you try to appreciate when your in the moments with someoen more
/r/seduction23/01/25 07:13 PM
2

You’re a guy wondering if your female co workers into you? Thats what I’m guessing. Sounds loke maybe but I’d be really careful and want to be really sure before u try anything. More so than other girls
/r/seduction23/01/25 05:51 AM
2

Yeah most of the time it’s the first. I get it just don’t like it is all. Sucks to spend great time with people and just have to leave it
/r/seduction23/01/25 05:02 AM
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Mine are usually at the end of the rope and see no other way. But yea I get what you are saying
/r/seduction23/01/25 04:42 AM
1

Apparnekty uts biological. Like she has to feel that way about you to move onto the next person. So it kind of makes sense why but I still don’t like it
/r/seduction23/01/25 03:22 AM
1

The only thing that’s gona make it less awkward is if you relax. Drinking helps if you drink. Overthinking only will make it worse
/r/seduction22/01/25 11:47 PM
1

Try to just relax and not overthink it. Sounds like you are already. Try and just go with the flow. Let the cards fall as they do etc. overthinking is only gonna mage it worse
/r/seduction22/01/25 11:03 PM
2

What people think works but then don’t even respond to it themselves. Infuriating advice actually when you really dive into it
/r/seduction22/01/25 10:43 PM
1

No it doesn’t fix your dating life but not why you should go to the gym. The gym is amazing for every reason AND your dating life. So yes you need to go
/r/seduction22/01/25 09:38 PM
59

Just be nice! Classic seduction advice from parents, friends etc with literally no idea how anything works. Obv this works in the right context but it’s massively misunderstood and usually is terrible advice
/r/seduction22/01/25 07:57 PM
1

Sounds like you are too forward. It’s good you’re asking for the date and trying to escalate where you can. But being more relaxed and laid back. Letting the girl come to you can be good. Sounds like she likes being treated well but I doubt you’ll get anywhere with it
/r/seduction22/01/25 07:04 PM
1

Go anyway but if it doesn’t go well just leave it. No harm in trying
/r/seduction22/01/25 06:59 PM
30

Also a guy. You can do it but don’t do it early on. Need some rapper and emotions or it’s just weird
/r/seduction22/01/25 06:58 PM
1

Go out to the bar every week and approach women and just work on your weak points. Do it every week and go sober
/r/seduction22/01/25 06:57 PM
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It’s a weird dynamic. I’ve got lots before then you approach and she’s cold. It’s quite odd. My take is biologically her body is interested but when you approach it could go different. I still don’t fully get it
/r/seduction21/01/25 07:15 PM
5

Social status is a strong power to have with women
/r/seduction21/01/25 07:12 PM
1

Possibly if you wanted to date her or have sex then I’d say yes. But if your main goal really is to have kids and a family I’d say no. You likely could have dated the girl/had sex but good chance it may never get to the kids things as she wasn’t ready anyway
/r/seduction20/01/25 10:49 PM
1

100% agree but there’s a difference from someone just being genuine and knowing what he wants and someone whose being needy. I get the genuine vibe from this guy so from that place it’s ok. Needing someone to have kids and a family I agree is very bad. But if you d got options, have your life together and just tell a girl look I’m looking for someone to start a family with. If that’s you I’d like it to be but if it’s not that’s also ok. That feels very genuine and non needy
/r/seduction20/01/25 07:28 PM
1

I agree neediness is bad but I don’t get a neediness feeling more so he just knows what he wants and is looking for a girl that wants the same. So it’s ok to say that here if that is your goal. Sure it won’t work with as many girls but the reality is those girls likely weren’t right for a family and kids yet anyway
/r/seduction20/01/25 07:11 PM
1

How? He wants a relationship with kids. Sounds like the date went well with a good vibe. My guess is the girl thought about it after and realized it wasn’t what she wanted right now
/r/seduction20/01/25 06:04 PM
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I beleive AI relationships will be a huge business it just hasn’t got there yet. But it’s coming.
/r/seduction20/01/25 05:50 PM
1

To me it sounds like it all went quite well. From what you’re saying it doesn’t sound like you did anything wrong. It’s hard to read people though and know what’s happening in her head or her situation. It’s possible it went too well and scared her so she’s pulling away. Kinda get that feeling. Like she doesn’t want to rush into another relationship and sees it going there with you. With ANY of the scenarios given the best one is to just leave it. Try in a week or 2 to invite her out again. Neve…
/r/seduction20/01/25 04:25 AM
1

Are you in your head when your talking
/r/seduction19/01/25 08:54 PM
1

Hopefully works out and if t doesn’t it’ll be a good lesson
/r/seduction19/01/25 08:24 PM
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You’re 17 relax lol. Didn’t lose my virginity until 19. Just go out and meet people. Work on yourself. Gym being #1. Hobbies etc. it’ll come
/r/seduction19/01/25 06:37 PM
1

Hopefully it works out but most likely it won’t unfortunately. Having too much outcome dependence is a recipe for disaster
/r/seduction19/01/25 06:35 PM
1

Same as any other girl. Just don’t try to play the money game with them you’ll lose it
/r/seduction19/01/25 06:34 PM
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You’ll lose playing like this. You care too much. I’ve been there trust me. The small bits of success you’re getting won’t work in the long run. Is what it is
/r/seduction19/01/25 06:23 PM
1

And 36 and can tell you no you have not. But start now
/r/seduction19/01/25 06:16 PM
8

Mindset can be insanely difficult to escape
/r/seduction19/01/25 06:14 PM
0

Gym CAN help but doesn’t mean it will. Should gym for different reasons but game being one of them. If your doing everything right you’d be doing good with women so you aren’t doing everything right
/r/seduction19/01/25 06:12 PM
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Was gonna say this. Yes they have all the options just 99% are guys they don’t want
/r/seduction19/01/25 02:24 AM
0

Ok that’s good. Idealy like 4-5x a week and weight training.
/r/seduction18/01/25 11:43 PM
1

No. Just say ‘ok no worries’ and move on. And genuinely do. Just treat her like a cute pet that you appreciate hearing from from time to time but don’t take it seriously. Make her feel comfortable when you talk to her but when she doesn’t reach out just don’t worry about it. Put it on the back burner
/r/seduction18/01/25 08:16 PM
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Little bit is good but not lots. If you look good without it or with a tiny bit that’s good. Are you going to the gym? If you aren’t you really really should. You literally don’t know what you don’t know
/r/seduction18/01/25 07:45 PM
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Sounds like a very nervous girl. Basically she’s interested but imagine her like a very damaged or skittish cat. You have to build a TON of trust and comfort for her to feel ok. And even still random things will scare her away. Comfort is key
/r/seduction18/01/25 07:44 PM
1

I got into it at 21 and am 36. Was way bigger at 21 but still the odd guy that goes out and is in it. Different cities also seem to vary a lot of how big the community is
/r/seduction18/01/25 06:05 AM
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I’d bring it up on the date. Def don’t message the dad lol. She’ll likeky get embarrassed and you can tease her for being a stalker
/r/seduction18/01/25 06:03 AM
0

Sex is just boring in relationships in general. You could try a sex club. Also a good book called sex god method you should read. It’ll help a lot
/r/seduction18/01/25 05:59 AM
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True but a lot of girls don’t actually like a bigger dick. It usually hurts. They think the idea is hot but when actually having sex they don’t like it as much as they say
/r/seduction18/01/25 05:44 AM
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98% of porn is big dicks so there’s that. But fantasies are normal for people. People flirt. Watch porn etc. it’s not a big deal you can’t control it. And if you do it’s only gonna make it worse
/r/seduction18/01/25 05:16 AM
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You should max out your looks if you haven’t already. Gym. Hair. Makeup. Clothing. Style etc. it matters a lot more for women than it does for men. It’s like 70% for women I’d say and for men it’s like 30%. So it’s worth putting a LOT of effort into. Gym being the main one
/r/seduction18/01/25 04:52 AM
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She will NeVER escalate. All on u
/r/seduction18/01/25 04:42 AM
2

Another person commented she wants u to escalate. Which is potentially true. Her saying I’ll be leaving soon is like “escalate now u idiot or I’m leaving”. Try to escalate earlier and see what happens
/r/seduction18/01/25 03:37 AM
1

This is a good point actually. If your meeting up for drinks and your isolated she wanted u to escalate 2 hours ago. By 3 hours she’s bored and saying either hurry up or I’m actually going
/r/seduction18/01/25 03:36 AM
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She sounds very flakey. I would just put it on the back burner and move on if you haven’t already. If it happens to work out at some point great but don’t put much expectation on it. Virgin girls can also be really tricky especially if she’s getting a lot of attention. It’s actually quite a bit harder than normal
/r/seduction18/01/25 01:04 AM
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Just be hot is actually good advice for women though lol. All women should be trying to max out their hotness as it matters a lot. It’s different for men
/r/seduction16/01/25 06:35 PM
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Somewhat normal. Like a girl asking to pay for her uber or to Uber her to your house. Don’t make a big deal of it but be careful about what kinds frame it’s setting
/r/seduction16/01/25 04:55 PM
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Agreed. It’s best if you can do it in a way that the guy would be second guessing himself. Like it seems like it’s in purpose but I dunno!?!? That kind of feeling. It also makes it really hot and fun cause you don’t actually know if the other person is just like that (some people really are) or doing it in purpose
/r/seduction16/01/25 04:36 PM
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I lived with a girl that did it well. She would always stand closer to me than normal. Showed me pics of where she was from but had her tits in my shoulder when she did. It came off very genuine though and not like she was on purpose but after a few months we dated. I was trying not to actually but eventually the chemistry built a lot. Was hot
/r/seduction16/01/25 02:00 PM
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Really hard to do that’s been the majority of my relationships now. Eventually either I get bored or it just gets boring. The only way I’ve been able to do it is when it starts to get more toxic or unknown as you break up it keep the excitement
/r/seduction16/01/25 12:20 PM
1

Would agree with the first paragraph yes. Guys typically make it pretty obvious if they’re interested. Girls are a lot more subtle
/r/seduction15/01/25 08:57 PM
1

I had a bit of this issue for a bit. Was becusse I was too ‘interview’ style. Date felt good. Convo felt good but the overall ‘vibe’ just wasnt there and it was my fault. I think the girls were open to it but it’s like I was blocked off to it. Like the other comments says if you create that sexual attraction you’ll likely get the second date. It’s more of an underlying vibe too so keep that in mind. Have to really feel it. You can still kiss or make out without that too though but that vibe will…
/r/seduction15/01/25 05:40 PM
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Easy example is when you walk into the bar in your head and think of how those approaches go. Vs a night your on fire in state. You can just look at a girl and it’s on.
/r/seduction14/01/25 11:31 PM
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Definitely. I’ve gone through the same after a breakup. Lots of success before. In a bad headspace but doing the work with almost no results. Was odd
/r/seduction14/01/25 11:29 PM
1

It’s not a waste of time but it’s just harder. Can be a really good skill if there’s not many girls in the bar. Or maybe you see one you really like but she’s in a group etc
/r/seduction14/01/25 06:21 PM
1

I get that but from my personal experience it’s never true. I always know when a woman really likes me they just make it blatantly obvious. Usually start acting crazy. Asking about other girls. All the normal signs. If she isn’t doing that it’s most likely not because she is nervous it’s likely she just isn’t as interested. That doesn’t mean she isn’t interested not what I’m saying. It just sounds like you are more than she is which IMO is a recipe for disaster. Just a matter of when
/r/seduction14/01/25 06:20 PM
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Not so much hitting on another girl but another girl giving you attention yes for sure. Even better if a few girls are and you’re just politely turning them down like it’s normal. It’s a biological response for women so automatically makes them attracted
/r/seduction14/01/25 06:13 PM
1

Taking that next step for the number is hard and def can be fear of rejection so I agree here. Not a feet of success
/r/seduction14/01/25 09:02 AM
1

Girls will always go to higher status or perceived status guys it’s biology. But being confident in who you are is attractive especially if it’s actually attractive. Being a rapper or dj etc is usually not actually cool (unless successful) so if your confident and have a good life as a good guy they just haven’t seen what that’s like and all they know is the trash they think is hot
/r/seduction14/01/25 09:00 AM
1

Be friendly and look for flirtations signs that are kinda obvious to escalate anything. Or test the waters and see how they react. But play it much safer
/r/seduction14/01/25 08:57 AM
1

It’s for sure harder in groups so you are not alone there. Ideally do all women groups to start if you’re gonna do it. But it is harder so just accept it
/r/seduction14/01/25 08:54 AM
1

If a girl gives you green lights to bang and you don’t take them you only get one shot and she’ll be gone. It suck’s I’ve been there many times. Must be a biological thing. Sounds like maybe the second time she gave you the green light and you didn’t take it. It’ll be over unfortunately
/r/seduction14/01/25 08:47 AM
4

Could jsuy ask like the other guy said. She likely knows you care though it’s obvious when someone does. I do think it’s always better to have the girl care more than the guy. Not to be in control but it’s just a better masculine/femenine dynamic. So if your chasing her a bit it’s setting a bad dynamic overall
/r/seduction14/01/25 08:45 AM
2

100%. Usually way crazier and can get away with way more cause they’re hot. Or have been so they have terrible habits and massive egos. Also tons of guys attention so easily can cheat and will threaten to all the time. After the honeymoon phase it’s a disaster
/r/seduction14/01/25 08:39 AM
7

Stop worrying about being that guy and just go approach girls. A lot aren’t gonna be down so it is a numbers game. Have fun and the odds will be better
/r/seduction14/01/25 05:11 AM
8

The way I see it these days the bar fo entry has become higher. Because of all the attention and social media etc. but once you get over that first hill it’s actually easier because the quality of guys has become lower. Hotter girls just have even more options now so it does make it harder. But if you can get past that initial hill it’ll be easier. Also keep in mind ‘HOT’ women is like daily driving a Ferrari. It’s super cool. Everyone wants it. Fast. Excites you. But also hard to maintain. Ever…
/r/seduction13/01/25 06:07 PM
0

That’s only 3 years difference. Really not a big deal. Also your 22 not 72 if you want to have a lot of good experiences there’s a lot of time. Trust me if you do well you’ll get more bored than anything before you get too old
/r/seduction13/01/25 06:04 PM
3

It didn’t. Unless you’re famous it doesn’t matter. Nothing changed
/r/seduction13/01/25 05:00 AM
1

I’m 36 and still single and enjoying it lol. List my virginity at 19. If you keep working on yourself you have many years ahead of you don’t worry
/r/seduction13/01/25 02:14 AM
1

I don’t like that people say it isn’t harder cause it is. But still game is game
/r/seduction13/01/25 12:05 AM
1

Letting go-David Hawkins
/r/seduction13/01/25 12:03 AM
1

When someone stops responding you really don’t know why. You can guess but you can’t read minds. Can beats of diff reasons. Also just use it as motivation to better yourself
/r/seduction12/01/25 10:47 PM
1

Some guys have pulled without saying a single word so yea lol
/r/seduction12/01/25 07:43 PM
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Women say one thing but date another. Be the guy she wants to date not says she wants to date
/r/seduction09/01/25 11:32 PM
2

No way out but through. Just go for it. Try to enjoy it and not overthink and move on. Most first times is bad so just enjoy it if you can.
/r/seduction09/01/25 11:32 PM
1

Escorts would make sense too
/r/seduction09/01/25 09:01 PM
1

But that’s literally all one night stands or just first time with girls. So you’d never have to have a relationship with any of them
/r/seduction09/01/25 09:00 PM
1

I’m not sure what you mean?
/r/seduction09/01/25 03:26 AM
1

I’ve been with over a hundred. Several years of going out. Big goal was to get to 100 though and lots of 7’s from the bars
/r/seduction09/01/25 01:26 AM
1

That or very unique criteria. Porn star. Dating coach. Male escort etc. if just single you eventually meet girls that you click with for awhile
/r/seduction09/01/25 01:23 AM
3

How. Anything above 200 I beleive you need unique criteria. Porn star. Male escort. Dating coach etc
/r/seduction09/01/25 01:20 AM
1

Oh
/r/seduction09/01/25 01:19 AM
4

Yeah what you’re saying sounds good. “Hey I’m free this day are you as well?” If she’s interested you guys will make it work. If she’s not it’ll feel like pulling teeth and be very difficult/won’t happen
/r/seduction08/01/25 11:01 PM
1

Not sure if this is a troll post but I don’t know why you’d want to be with that many girls. I’ve been with over 100 and after that I stopped caring about one night stands and enjoy the honeymoon phase of relationships so much more. So much more rewarding than just sleeping with girls. It is possible to be with this many girls I just don’t see why you would want to is all. So much more rewarding spending time with one girl for a bit
/r/seduction08/01/25 06:35 PM
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I actually agree. IF the post is true which it may be a troll post. But 700 means you likely haven’t had any real relationships and it’s all just one night stands which gets old fairly fast
/r/seduction08/01/25 06:34 PM
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Nice man. No better feeling. Been in game 15 years and that quality of girl to pull from the bar has only happened a small handful of times. Feel like a champ the next day.
/r/seduction08/01/25 07:12 AM
2

Seems like most people are on point. Sexualize the convo if it feels right then start escalating. Say u live ‘2mins away lol’
/r/seduction08/01/25 04:24 AM
1

Just keep meeting girls. Eventually you’ll find one you resonate with well.
/r/seduction07/01/25 11:36 PM
1

Honestly who knows and who cares really. Sounds like most others go well. You can’t pleas everyone. It happens just move into the next. If it’s a reoccurring thing there’s an issue if not then who knows what happened
/r/seduction07/01/25 11:31 PM
1

Fitness and gym. Max out for looks. Go on the bar 4x a week and work on talking to girls
/r/seduction07/01/25 07:39 PM
1

It can and does. But also can display high value. Example; you approach a mixed set with a guy and the girl and are super direct with the girl. Takes a lot of confidence to do that
/r/seduction07/01/25 07:02 PM
5

I agree. I’ve dated some girls like this they just seem to always be like this. The issue is it can be really exhausting after a few months and it wears you down emotionally
/r/seduction07/01/25 06:59 PM
2

Just leave it and don’t address it next time. Unless it’s genuinely rude in that case it’s good to apologize
/r/seduction07/01/25 06:54 PM
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I agree it’s good to stay calm I have a high tolerance for it. But there are some women who will push and push and push it’s pretty wild. Everyone has a breaking point. And I mean push for like days
/r/seduction07/01/25 06:52 PM
2

Not always true
/r/seduction06/01/25 10:18 PM
1

I have too. They’re making you wait thing is silly to me but I can see the perspective of wanting to build a connection first. That part I do kinda like more these days then just sleeping on the first date
/r/seduction06/01/25 10:18 PM
5

Ahh if the personality was bad then that makes sense. Thought it was solely due to the sleeping o nthe first night thing
/r/seduction06/01/25 09:54 PM
6

To add as well there are 2 types of girls. One is the one who lacks self respect and may sleep with you the first time. The other is the one who is sexually confident and will the first time because she knows what she wants.
/r/seduction06/01/25 09:52 PM
14

Honestly a really bad mindset to have. Has very little to do with this
/r/seduction06/01/25 09:51 PM
13

Ur cray. I’ll take that 9 any day
/r/seduction06/01/25 09:46 PM
13

Opposite actually. They’re more confident and when they want it they’ll just have it with you. If it isn’t good they will drop you asap though. I find less attractive girls are more insecure and do the 3date thing more often
/r/seduction06/01/25 09:45 PM
1

Routines def work. I’ve used them and people teach them for a reason. There just are better ways to improve game that’s all
/r/seduction06/01/25 02:53 PM
1

You’ll fall in love by accident when you become a ‘womanizer’ as you say. If you do anyway. Eventually you meet great girls that ruin all the rest
/r/seduction06/01/25 02:50 PM
4

Looks have always mattered and WiLL help contrary to hardcore pickup culture. They just don’t matter that much
/r/seduction06/01/25 02:16 PM
2

Woke movement took a big hit on pua. Easy target
/r/seduction06/01/25 02:16 PM
1

Me too movement took a big toll on it. Tyler collapsed rsd for it. But also there’s so much ‘pick up’ info out there eventually you have to move forward. Can only teach approach anxiety so many times etc.
/r/seduction06/01/25 02:12 PM
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A
/r/seduction04/01/25 07:02 AM
2

Posted in your other thread but no time like the present to change it. Can complain about it or you can do something. Choice is yours
/r/seduction03/01/25 05:16 PM
1

Nevermind this makes more sense. You probs know more than I do but Japanese culture is very sexually repressed from my understanding. So if you embrace it and make women feel comfortable plus a massage/good experience I could see how this could happen
/r/seduction03/01/25 05:01 PM
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The mindset you’re currently in won’t help you. I know it’s hard to change but it’s going to be one of your issues. Women are super sensitive to this and will find it very unattractive
/r/seduction03/01/25 05:00 PM
1

I’m guessing you’re a male escort then. But why do women pay you if they are attractive ? I consider myself quite decent in bed or can be but even still attractive women have so many options the times I’ve been paid it’s more for the emotional side of it really than the actual sex. Even tho the sex has been amazing for them
/r/seduction03/01/25 04:57 PM
4

I agree with the amount of work it takes to get laid. I go out sober 3x a week still and it’s not easy and a lot of times not fun. But just have to do it to keep the lifestyle I want.
/r/seduction03/01/25 02:20 AM
3

Interesting you say this because I have this issue with sales but didn’t with women. When they are both quite similar. With sales it felt like luck and just numbers which i know is a me issue. With girls it’s way more skill. Still is numbers but I’m in control of it. If you’re stuck in a rut it can be hard though. You’ll need some success to get the snowball effect going. So you gotta likely get a bit lucky to start then just capitalize and use the momentum to do it again. Massive action is the …
/r/seduction03/01/25 12:24 AM
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I’ve been paid but only as a bi product of the girl wanting to bang. And it’s super rare. It sounds cool but in reality isn’t likely to happen unless you are an escort. And then your just banging women u don’t want to
/r/seduction03/01/25 12:21 AM
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Social media in general is so toxic for that
/r/seduction03/01/25 12:19 AM
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I’ve been lucky enough to have lots of these experiences and I would consider myself lucky to have it. I also took a lot of action though and went to the bar 4x a week for like 10 years. So that’s part of it. Partly it’s also due to good genetics/looks and good upbringing around women. Like I said I’d consider myself lucky in this sense. Point I’m making is it’s up to you to change it and you can. While your 22 and a virgin there’s no time like the present to change that
/r/seduction02/01/25 09:24 PM
1

Been thinking this might be the provoke actually. I find I have better game if jsuy don’t care at all. It’s like as soon as you care you get outcome dependence and that affects it
/r/seduction01/01/25 09:20 PM
0

Big fax. Time and time again it’s got me
/r/seduction31/12/24 09:32 PM
1

Eh doesn’t mean much. If you were having sex that’s different. She Likely is keeping you in the hook for attention and validation. I’d probs do the same in her situation. Ironically if you actually move on and genuinely stop caring that’s when she MIGHT get move interested. But don’t do that as a way to game her just move on
/r/seduction30/12/24 06:08 PM
1

You should have some success if you’re doing that much. Just have to figure out where along the line you fail. You have approaches down it sounds like the next step is good conversation
/r/seduction29/12/24 03:47 AM
4

It’s her saying what she wants to want. But in reality what she actually wants is much different
/r/seduction29/12/24 03:46 AM
2

Type of frame you set is what matters. If you set a frame that you pay for everything then you’ve set that frame. Set the frame you want from the start and stick to it. If she doesn’t accept that frame you’ll know right away. If you’ve been paying for awhile now it’s going to be hard to change the frame your in. Needs to be set from the start
/r/seduction28/12/24 01:07 PM
1

Situationship means you were having sex. You were having sex or no?
/r/seduction28/12/24 01:03 PM
1

This comment shouldn’t get this much hate I actually think it’s probs true. If the relationship is good this much space apart should be increasing the sex you have. Her being that distant sounds like she may be seeing someone else
/r/seduction28/12/24 12:23 PM
2

Sex god method is a great book strictly on sex. BUT I’ve always found space apart HELPED the sexual intimacy. If it’s creating more issues there’s def a problem. If the relationship is healthy that much time apart should be making you guys have way more sex not less and when you see eachother it should be on very quick
/r/seduction28/12/24 12:20 PM
9

One thing that’s universally true I’ve learned is never ask a girl how a guy should treat her. It’s laughably bad when you hear the response to what women actually like
/r/seduction28/12/24 12:18 PM
1

Be hotter. Max out your genetic hotness
/r/seduction27/12/24 09:17 AM
17

U r incorrect
/r/seduction24/12/24 07:45 AM
2

Good to have abundance but yea simply just focus on the one you want the most and then move down that list. Also when you get numbers just don’t get them from girls you aren’t that interested in in the future. Try to just close that right away or use that girl as a learning experience for something else
/r/seduction23/12/24 05:57 AM
-2

The bar has unlimited seats to try. Fail one night go the next and it’s all new ones
/r/seduction23/12/24 02:51 AM
-5

Unlimited girls every night at the bars and it resets every weekend. Problem isn’t the world
/r/seduction23/12/24 02:28 AM
1

Subtle is good for a woman. Your spot on
/r/seduction22/12/24 08:32 AM
1

Women are hilarious when they say what they want. They literally have no idea
/r/seduction22/12/24 01:47 AM
4

Called approach anxiety and everyone gets it. There isn’t any way around it besides just doing it and the more you do it the easier it get. One thing I’ve found that helps the most is as SOON as you walk into the bar approach the first girl. Immedietly. Even if you wait a minute it’s too late
/r/seduction21/12/24 05:30 PM
1

Looks are about 30% for guys vs 80% for girls
/r/seduction21/12/24 05:29 PM
1

So you’d want to set a ‘man to woman’ frame. You basically just act more like you would if you wanted to be a partner. If she reciprocates she is accepting this frame. For example you say something flirty. If you laughs and playfully says something back it’s accepting. If she says “hey that’s not ok” then she doesn’t accept the man to woman frame
/r/seduction21/12/24 05:26 PM
1

So the ‘frame’ has underlying rules and expectations. So a friendly frame has rules that only friends have etc. so what kind of frame would you want that has underlying rules that fit your narrative you want to get out of it?
/r/seduction21/12/24 01:40 AM
1

You almost never will get approached so forget that part. You can have a woman seduce you though it’s not uncommmon. But you have to be on your A game which comes from a lot of seducing women. Usually when you’re on a roll. You just are there being friendly but you portray so many attractive qualities to the girl she does little things to seduce you
/r/seduction20/12/24 06:24 PM
1

I thi your saying look for opportunities to change the frame
/r/seduction20/12/24 06:16 PM
1

It’s called frames and you are setting the wrong one off the start. If you are friendly and talking about deep topics you are setting a we are friends frame. It can be difficult to switch after which is likely why it feels odd to make it sexual after awhile. You need to set the right frame from the start
/r/seduction20/12/24 06:14 PM
1

Ahh I see well maybe not. Some percentage of approaches will never work so likely the guy just has a terrible awareness of it and that’s why he did
/r/seduction19/12/24 06:29 PM
5

I second this. When you take her for dinner your setting a bad frame that she’s the prize and your trying to win her over. I have slept with lots of girls and never done this you don’t have to. And it usually lowers your chances
/r/seduction19/12/24 12:15 AM
10

It happens a lot so get used to it. She likely doesn’t remember but regrets it so easier to say she doesn’t. Move on
/r/seduction18/12/24 07:19 PM
1

Because you were open and giving some answers I do think the right delivery and guy may have been able to make it positive. But def sounds like this guy made it super weird and strange. Add in the potential danger as a woman in this environment and it becomes extremely negative.
/r/seduction18/12/24 06:49 PM
1

Interesting take on it because technically you should always have confidence in whatever frame you have. Tonality/body language etc. so I get your point and is somewhat correct
/r/seduction17/12/24 02:35 PM
1

lol yea that would be good too. Frame being the general lens or context of the situation. Weight behind it being the confidence you give it
/r/seduction17/12/24 02:10 PM
1

Endless creativity and the more witty you could be the better. Ideally you want to reframe to one that signals confidence “Oh really so you’ve been watching me all night? You sound obsessed with me” Etc
/r/seduction17/12/24 12:49 PM
2

Even if it is having the frame it isn’t a big deal. If string will pull her into it
/r/seduction17/12/24 07:19 AM
1

I get what u are trying to do. Ironically guy one COULD get a ton of pussy if done right. There is pretty much no scenario where guy 2 will
/r/seduction17/12/24 06:47 AM
1

Ridiculous post IMO. Guy 1 is obv a super nice guy. Your easily portrayi by him to be friend zone. Guy 2 is just horrible tooo. Maybe some girls like it but most are going to get very turned off. Both suck. Your original post was more accurate it sounds like you want to be guy 2 and you shouldn’t
/r/seduction17/12/24 06:42 AM
2

Fax
/r/seduction17/12/24 06:35 AM
1

Or also is nervous. I would still try zero anything for a week. Like go dark on her and see what she does
/r/seduction17/12/24 06:31 AM
1

Possible she found something online she didn’t like. Pic with an ex etc. that can kill it
/r/seduction17/12/24 05:54 AM
1

Hmm that is weird if she was liking stories actually. Most girls don’t do that unless they are interested. I would still not talk for a week and see what happens. It’s possible she is interested and wants you to chase. Post an update in a week
/r/seduction17/12/24 05:53 AM
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And have the mindset sex is normal and no big deal IF it comes up
/r/seduction17/12/24 05:51 AM
3

Sounds like she likely isn’t interested. Forget about it and move on. Was probs just being nice and you were misreading the vibe. It happens
/r/seduction16/12/24 07:07 PM
1

Yeah you’re saying more so inviting her or them into my frame vs trying to set a frame. So just holding my frame
/r/seduction16/12/24 05:41 PM
3

Yeah. No way out but through sucks but the only way. If you’re a self improvement person I have personally ALWAYS noticed the darker the thing I go through the bigger the lesser I got coming out of it. Seems to be a universal principle for myself so look for that lesson
/r/seduction16/12/24 05:40 PM
12

If the vibe is good in convos you’ll typically notice she will wave or give you proximity. Works out close by to you etc. if she never does either of these though the may not be feeling the same vibe that you are and just wants to get her workout done. Try leaving it for a little while like 3 weeks and see if she does anything
/r/seduction16/12/24 05:39 PM
22

No way out but through. Takes time but going out and meeting people/working on yourself helps a lot. I found self improvement made me feel a lot better. Lots of gym etc
/r/seduction16/12/24 04:30 PM
1

Sounds more like the vibe you are trying to manipulate. But def can be equally as effective
/r/seduction16/12/24 03:51 PM
20

Exactly. If you don’t want the relationship you can push this but I’ve noticed it’ll last about 4-8 months depending on the girl and how much she starts liking you. Eventually it’ll end or you have to date
/r/seduction15/12/24 09:17 PM
10

This is true Reddit is just an idiot space. Girls will actually avoid mentioning their husband/bf at all costs if they really like a guy
/r/seduction15/12/24 07:08 PM
1

I also think it’s easier to understand frames from only a who has a stronger one standpoint. Because then it is the words I use set the frame. Exercise is bad vs exercise is good. My conviction, how I react to the other persons replies, body language and words I use all determine how strong or confident I am in my frame. Usually whoever is more confident wins the frame. So they say exercise is bad. A strong reply is “lol oh yea?” And a weak reply is “oh, really? You think so…hmmm”
/r/seduction15/12/24 03:10 AM
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It does and I think I’ve got a better understanding in the last day so re reading your first post actually makes more sense. Thanks. My current understanding is the words you say generally set what the frame is. And the body language, tonality, words you use give it the weight or sometimes the context. Obviously it doesn’t have to be words only but usually is the case Like if I say exercise is bad? It comes across less strong then. Exercise is bad! Same words but different tonality. Second one i…
/r/seduction15/12/24 03:07 AM
1

You seem to have a decent understanding of frames so could you focus on my original question with the frames. You sort of touch on it there but really I want to know if there is 2 parts to frames. You can frame something in a good way or a bad way (2 frames) like giving it context. But then what you say and how you say it/the words you use also matter
/r/seduction14/12/24 12:59 AM
1

I understand the second part you are referring to but still doesn’t rly answer my question
/r/seduction13/12/24 10:42 PM
4

It can because it looks like you cancelled them to meet with her. Even if you actually didn’t. If you have a second date lined up it’s actually better to just stick to that even if you want to see her on the Friday. Sounds kinda dumb it theory but it will ruin the attraction
/r/seduction13/12/24 09:40 PM
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Well I wouldn’t say you could have easily got laid or you would have. She likely was nervous so talking a lot. If it’s happening a lot then the girls likely nervous a lot. If she’s there at 3am with Just you she is obv interested though so just have to make it more seamless or more comfortable. Escalating like “show me what your room looks like” could be a more seamless transition then making it so obvious and making her more nervous
/r/seduction13/12/24 05:24 PM
2

Did she turn you down? What kind of move and what happened
/r/seduction13/12/24 05:20 PM
5

Likely is kind of nervous so talking lots. If you’re at her house at 3am she wants you to just make a move and you missed the window. This is actually not good on your part. Women will just talk in circles if you let them and you are letting them. Gotta give them direction and take them to the bedroom
/r/seduction13/12/24 05:18 PM
3

Biology doesn’t change for all girls so keep that in mind. But trends and what’s cool does.
/r/seduction13/12/24 06:31 AM
1

Just an example to make a point
/r/seduction12/12/24 04:32 PM
1

It’s usually fairly obvious if she is interested. And if she isn’t you’ll be guessing if she is. I’d guess she likely isn’t. Can always try bring up up sexual topics tho and see how she responds
/r/seduction12/12/24 02:41 AM
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Depends if she just sees u as a friend. If she does it’s gonna ruin it when you ask her out. Hard to know the dynamic. If you truly think she’s interested you can try escalating sexually next time you hangout. If she doesn’t like it she probs doesn’t see you that way. If she’s open to it she might be open to moving things forward
/r/seduction12/12/24 01:51 AM
0

Yeah just using this as a scenario to give an example of frame control. Your response would just be to blow it off really and not accept her frame while keeping your own. Gives you more value and status for sure but for the underlying frames I would say there isn’t any set yet in that scenario. But that does keep it fun
/r/seduction12/12/24 01:26 AM
2

Having fun at the bar is one of the keys to good game and if your autistic your probs asking how do I have fun lol. It’s an abstract concept that you cant solve with your logical mind. But it is the key
/r/seduction11/12/24 09:10 AM
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Be friendly so you have to talk to her. Then gauge the vibe. If it’s good try to escalate a tiny bit to gauge her compliance. Or just ask her out on a date. Hey escalate I mean causally Touch her arm. Little bit of kino. See how she responds. If it’s positive you are ok. If it’s negative then try to build more rapport and try again later. Or maybe she isn’t interested
/r/seduction10/12/24 11:53 PM
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Most of the time yea that’s who’s having sex with the girls. Why is that hard to beleive ?
/r/seduction10/12/24 05:31 PM
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That’s not true they actually do and they are testing you to see if you fall into one of the 2 categories. Women will just control a beta male more and then not have sex with him
/r/seduction10/12/24 05:13 PM
4

100%. Most of womens ’tactics’ are just them testing to see if your the alpha male or a male they want to mate with
/r/seduction10/12/24 04:48 PM
1

Yeah this is a simple but practical way to look at it actually. I have a very logical brain and sometimes less is more so this is a nice way of putting it
/r/seduction09/12/24 05:20 PM
1

Yeah I know I referred to that part. Reflecting on this though I believe there is only one aspect to frames instead of 2
/r/seduction09/12/24 05:18 PM
5

Calgary is where I am and the amount of hot girls here is amazing. Especially since it’s such a random place to have so many. I consider myself lucky
/r/seduction09/12/24 05:17 PM
6

I’m in Alberta Canada. Here the ratio is different every night. I’m Friday though the ratio was 70/30 girls to guys. Great night
/r/seduction09/12/24 02:29 AM
1

Yeah this is a good way to approach it. Also much easier and simpler
/r/seduction09/12/24 01:39 AM
1

I’m sure you’re referring to me questioning frames in general and not having a solid understanding of confidence in my own frame. Which is frame control in general. Vs having a solid frame saying that I believe frame is 2 parts. The point u missed is I’m asking a question
/r/seduction08/12/24 11:26 PM
1

Well iMO setting frames can be a powerful tool so it’s good to understand.
/r/seduction08/12/24 05:20 PM
2

Yeah basically. Who holds the power in the situation really. But in Oren klaffs book he references it as frames. And uses different types as there are different types of power. For example moral authority is a cop having power. Prize frame is a really hot girl Power frame is your boss
/r/seduction08/12/24 04:20 AM
1

Overall yes I agree. Most examples I’ve read are girl-the music here sucks (weak frame) yea it sucks I agree (strong frame)-actually I like the music. Problem is this is the surface level frame or perspective. And what mattters more is the underlying frame there. Like if she approaches you saying you’re cute. Then says it sucks. You just got a prize frame a lot of power. Vs you approached her and she says it sucks. She has the prize frame and all the power. You hold your frame but she still has …
/r/seduction08/12/24 04:15 AM
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Sort of yes. The surface level frame im mentioning is perspective. Point of view etc. The issue is there’s a deeper frame at play in almost every situation that matters more. Basiclaly who has the power in that interaction
/r/seduction08/12/24 04:12 AM
1

6 but 6 is bad on my scal
/r/seduction06/12/24 01:47 AM
1

100%
/r/seduction27/11/24 11:48 PM
1

I agree with this. Usually girls see things as positive or negative depending if they like you. It sounds like logical facts but in reality it wasn’t the reason she didn’t. I’m more saying though if you really are a nice guy just own it and it’s ok to be nice. Own that frame if that’s who you really want to be. If you’re not actually nice but trying to be to get that girl that’s where you get issues
/r/seduction27/11/24 06:27 PM
2

1% of 1% lol. Need to take way more there’s tons of opportunity there
/r/seduction27/11/24 06:15 AM
3

Wouldn’t say it’s a bad thing. Or good. Nothing really. Def could still be interested even though she’s mentioning him. Sounds very recent which is likely why
/r/seduction27/11/24 04:50 AM
4

Good take on it. Being nice is actually fine if that’s how you are. It’s about just being you. For example if you liked butterflies and the girl called you a loser. But you said I don’t care I just think they’re beautiful and I like them. She actually finds it attractive because it’s authentic
/r/seduction27/11/24 03:42 AM
1

It’s the feeling someone gives off when you around around them. Like an energy field. Think of how someone feels when they’re in a bad mood and you’re around them vs a good mood. Girls are hypersensitive to this. You can’t really fake it so it has to be genuine
/r/seduction27/11/24 01:54 AM
3

Keep in mind you are addicted to your current feeling. There is a payoff to feeling like a victim and it’s a big one. You may not think there is but if you didn’t get one you wouldn’t keep doing it. So you’ll have to stop that first before making any other changes
/r/seduction27/11/24 01:53 AM
1

Try using visions. Once in the am once in the pm and look at what thoughts your having. You likely are getting some positive pay off for how you are feeling so you need to cut the addiction. It’s what it is. Do you actually want to change or are you just saying u do
/r/seduction26/11/24 06:45 PM
1

Didn’t read your whole post but the vibe is what matters the most. You can literally say nothing and bang girls
/r/seduction26/11/24 01:10 AM
2

Just is what it is for me. More people you meet the faster that will get sped up. But I do find I can’t rush it personally. Seems to have to happen on its own but very obvious when it does. The chemistry is very much there compared to other people
/r/seduction25/11/24 10:23 PM
2

Ahh yea that’s a long relationship. Meeting new people you like can take time but they’re definitely out there. I personally find it takes me about a year to find someone I really click well with every time. And I meet a fair number of girls. To have that spark with someone isn’t super common but they’re out there for sure.
/r/seduction25/11/24 10:04 PM
2

Yeah men feel the exact same way it’s no different. So they don’t do it. Same way you probably won’t. I’ve approached girls in the day before though and it almost always is positive. Even if they are in a relationship etc. men will likely respond quite positively too especially if you are attractive
/r/seduction25/11/24 09:52 PM
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99% of men will not approach a girl in the day. There is a ton of nervousness and self doubt that comes into that. Imagine how you feel if you see a cute guy and someone told you to go approach him. It’s exactly the same for guys so most just won’t do it. At a bar it’s more normalized so it’s more likely to happen. Also people are drunk so that helps them too. Most guys still won’t even if you smile and make eye contact. You could always go approach them?
/r/seduction25/11/24 09:31 PM
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People approaching you day to day isn’t super common so if you aren’t on apps or at bars the amount of people you are going to meet is low. Most men find it extremely intimidating and don’t do it. So keep that in mind that if you are attractive and men are checking you out. Try to lower the intimidation factor for them if you think they’re attractive. Look positive. Give OBVIOUS to men cues that you are interested (smile, clear eye contact) etc. make it easier for them to approach you and make y…
/r/seduction25/11/24 07:11 PM
1

This is a seduction page. BUT men feel fulfilled by being on their purpose and taking action toward it every day. That’s what makes men feel self fufliflled. If you have no purpose and are just waking up going to be waking up going to bed you lack that fulfilllment. You need to find a purpose and take action on it everyday. Sports, job, game etc whatever it may be. This is what makes men happy and without it you’re feeling depressed. No amount of therapy or drugs will fix it
/r/seduction25/11/24 06:28 PM
1

Second that. Email is weird if your trying to bang the girl
/r/seduction25/11/24 06:25 PM
1

Shoukd almost never buy a girl a drink at a bar
/r/seduction25/11/24 06:23 PM
2

You likely have the wrong vibe or aren’t making the convo sexual and flirty. You can be really attractive but if you frame the interaction as a friendly we are friends frame that’s how it’s gonna play out. Need to frame it as I’m here to try to have sex with you and make it fun
/r/seduction25/11/24 06:22 PM
2

Your response was good. Like someone said ideally with a smirk but if you did that too then who knows. She basically gave you a shit test but it sounds like you did pass with the right response. So who knows
/r/seduction25/11/24 06:20 PM
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Could be nothing. Could be signs they find u attractive but are just blowing u out still. Could be that they think you’re weird. Really hard to say here. Although I also do find girls weird with eye contact at the bar. I’ve frequently had girls obviously checking me out and giving me looks like they’re interested just to go talk to them to have them reject me hard and walk away. It’s very strange actually. These days unless it’s obvious she’s making eye contact to get me interested I just see it…
/r/seduction25/11/24 03:48 AM
4

They’re all single with enough game
/r/seduction25/11/24 12:27 AM
2

Sounds like you aren’t actually dating the girl so no you didn’t. You care too much and it doesn’t sound like you were even dating. If you had 10 other girls would you have reacted this way? Answer is no
/r/seduction24/11/24 08:13 PM
1

Just do it more. No way to ‘think’ yourself out of it. Just need the experience
/r/seduction22/11/24 06:40 PM
1

Yeah I’ve heard the music analogy before it’s a good one. And a lot of guys would succumb to the girls frame here
/r/seduction20/11/24 10:13 PM
2

Interesting way of doing it. So basically subtly implying a frame using body language and tonality instead of actively trying to force a frame
/r/seduction20/11/24 10:11 PM
2

Yes
/r/seduction20/11/24 07:01 AM
4

Alcohol helps a lot. So does being horny like some ppl said. Also doing it for other reasons than the girl. Like experience pulling or experience trying new things is good
/r/seduction20/11/24 02:57 AM
1

I’m 35 and my buddy is 40. Relax lol
/r/seduction19/11/24 08:04 AM
1

U don’t have to. There’s unlimited leads at the bar every weekend
/r/seduction19/11/24 08:03 AM
2

Typically a bad idea because if it goes bad it has 10x the consequences. I hate that everyone just says don’t though. It can be fun but I’d be 110% sure she’s actually into you before trying to escalate
/r/seduction17/11/24 10:07 PM
1

2 possible scenarios. One is you aren’t as grounded as you think. 2 is like a couple other people said you are but when you get around a girl she influences you too much and it comes across not grounded. She easily sways your opinion, you fall into her frame etc. If you really are grounded then it’s 2. Which is mint uncommon. Think of a hard working blue collar guy that’s super grounded in reality. Works a tough 9-5, just getting by, real may man. Woukd be super grounded. But then a hot chick wa…
/r/seduction17/11/24 07:23 PM
1

You can def meet good girls at bars and clubs they are there. Likely to more bad ones yes but for sure are some good ones
/r/seduction17/11/24 06:35 PM
1

Most cases yes but not always. Double texting can work it’s not black and white
/r/seduction16/11/24 11:27 PM
6

Not sure what you are asking. You said you do well with women but also feel autistic. Sounds like you have good conversation so just go other bar and have the good conversations you are having. Not seent the issue?
/r/seduction16/11/24 11:19 PM
3

Women aren’t going to mention sex. It’s up to you to lead it to where ‘it just happens’ and don’t say let’s have sex. Instantly will get no’s and girls will get turned off
/r/seduction16/11/24 07:10 PM
8

Gotta learn to enjoy the moment. Tahats all there ever is
/r/seduction16/11/24 04:48 AM
1

Dick size isn’t all of it but for sure would help. Making her comfortable helps a lot. Being confident. Making her cum multiple times will help a lot. Lots of diff things u can do. Good book called sex god method to read
/r/seduction15/11/24 05:00 PM
15

Decent advice on something fluid
/r/seduction15/11/24 04:59 PM
2

Have to approach more. Eventually you’ll get lucky with an easy one and build off that. Keep approaching. It’s the only way I’ve found to keep AA at bay
/r/seduction14/11/24 06:13 AM
1

100% yes. Frustrating but reflect and go again. All about being consistent
/r/seduction13/11/24 03:43 AM
0

2 things. One is you need to max out your hotness. If you attractive good but being as hot as possible is going to help a lot as people will care less and less about your kid the hotter you get. Second is more mature dating people are willing to be ok with it. If you’re dating early 20’s f boys they aren’t going to want to. Someone early thirties that’s more mature will be more likely to be ok with it and may even grow to like it
/r/seduction13/11/24 12:04 AM
3

Online is notoriously flaky so keep that in mind. It’s just bad for it. Also a if you aren’t hot guys will be more flaky. You say you’re attractive but how attractive? Best is to meet people day to day. It’s harder but always the best. Also max out your hotness. If you aren’t fit and loooing as hot as possible you aren’t at your max potential
/r/seduction12/11/24 06:09 PM
6

Being as attractive as you physically can will help. So gym, clothes etc. how you frame situations with girls helps a lot too. Ideally you want to frame it as your the prize. To get a lot to do it in public though will be extremely difficult unless you’re famous. And also who rly cares. It’s nice to get attention but it’s just an ego boost. Best way to get close to that is go to the bar and kill it that night. Get in state and be talking to everyone. You’ll ooze a natural aura and girls will faw…
/r/seduction12/11/24 04:01 PM
1

I’m 6’4 and conventionally good looking. Looks don’t help nearly as much as you think. It’s way more about the vibe you have. But that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to look better. Dress better and be fit it’ll help for sure. But it doesn’t help as much as you think
/r/seduction09/11/24 05:55 PM
1

Not sure if you mean a phone call or text. But normal just random boring stuff if it’s daytime and I don’t sexualize it. Dont until you meet up it’s too easy to screw up over text. That being said if you’re desperate to sexualize texts I find they have always been after texting a decent amount that day and you’re stilll talking and it’s like 1am. Always seems to be late at night
/r/seduction09/11/24 01:46 AM
2

Only way out is through
/r/seduction08/11/24 01:07 AM
1

If you can’t go to the bar yet meeting people day to day is good. Be fun and flirty and if you’re somewhat attractive they’ll like you. If you aren’t at all start working on that. It doesn’t matter thattttt much for guys but it will help
/r/seduction07/11/24 06:39 PM
14

No guys will eat to keep seeing you if you are hotter. If you aren’t it’s more likely they will not. It’s that simple for girls. Yes there are other things that help but this should be the #1 focus
/r/seduction06/11/24 02:19 PM
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Max out your hotness. It’s the simple for women. Gym being #1, clothes can help too
/r/seduction06/11/24 04:55 AM
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Power typically flips. Women have it before. Men have it after. Definitely not always but quite often
/r/seduction06/11/24 02:15 AM
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Endless leads
/r/seduction06/11/24 02:13 AM
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Women will give you indicators of interest. Sometimes that means looking for flirty or sexual. Showing their neck etc. there’s a bunch of little cues you can look up. Look up IOI’s
/r/seduction06/11/24 01:55 AM
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While he’s obv doing everything anyone would do in his situation and I like him. His advice will be extremely nuanced and very difficult to achieve for almost everyone. Taking advice from someone with huge status and social proof on women is going to be bordering ridiculous. He likely has some good advice in the book but I just can’t wrap my head around how it could be applicable to most people. I like him but he will be massively out of touch
/r/seduction05/11/24 07:04 PM
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I agree with this. Every girl is different for what they really like and it’s your job to figure it out. Once you do then just figure out the best way to do it. For example some girls like it really rough and some hate it. Gotta figure out which like what
/r/seduction04/11/24 06:42 PM
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No time like the present to start working on it. Start hitting the bar 4x a week and approaching. Study game and you’ll have more girls than you want. I didn’t lose my virginity until 19 so started very late and have had a lot of success now with dating.
/r/seduction04/11/24 02:45 AM
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/r/seduction24/10/24 05:56 PM
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Fraps? Also what’s gpu
/r/seduction23/10/24 05:49 AM
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1 goal as a girl should be to max out your attractiveness. Gym,diet,clothes etc. at 19 and hot you are the prize
/r/seduction21/10/24 06:42 AM
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Isn’t the fuckboy thjng. Girls don’t actually care that much. I’m 6’4 and good looking. Have that vibe. Girls always say they don’t want it blah blah but they don’t care. Something else your doing is turning them off.
/r/seduction26/09/24 05:51 PM
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Need to get better in bed. Even one night stands drunk will come back if you are. Although a lot less likely. Building a connecting and having chemistry is always the best way to have her likely come back though
/r/seduction01/07/24 05:04 AM
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Yeah makes sense
/r/seduction11/03/24 03:53 AM
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I do know and I still have it so yea. Seems like it’s just heavily hardwired in
/r/seduction10/03/24 08:05 PM
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Definitely
/r/seduction10/03/24 08:05 PM
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Would actually agree on that. Sort of a deep topic you’re getting into there but without the external validation I actually don’t know how to permanently change the deep core beleifs you likely get given as kids.
/r/seduction10/03/24 08:04 PM
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Yeah I’ve heard that one lots. 3 second rule. It’s like a cheap trick but can work well
/r/seduction10/03/24 05:12 AM
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I’ve been in game 12yearz now lol so probably done several thousand approaches but falling back onto a dumb issue like this is annoying. I like what you say about 50 approaches a week because that’s how I’m looking at it. I’m thinking 4 nights a week and more like 15 approaches and hoping that will work. But real solid approaches not half assed ones. Frame wise I think I’m good there. I do believe it’s good to talk to people and they generally enjoy it so that part is ok
/r/seduction10/03/24 05:11 AM
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I agree. Still the hardwired fear is annoying and seems impossible to get rid of completely
/r/seduction10/03/24 05:09 AM
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So sort of like the other guy said. Have a better frame to come from to just make it casual instead of making it weird and forceful
/r/seduction10/03/24 02:21 AM
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This is basically my issue. I’ve gone out for years so I’ve had periods where it goes away. But I notice now it’s something that never 100% goes away for this reason. So all you can ever do is keep it at bay. I’m trying to find ways to keep it under control consistently really. Only one I can think of is do it so often it’s normal
/r/seduction10/03/24 02:20 AM
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For sure get that. Do you approach so often though that you normalize it or do you find you don’t that often and it’s just that frame that helps the most
/r/seduction10/03/24 02:18 AM
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Definitely. I’m just noticing a pattern though where when I learn something new it temporarily motivates me for one or 2 nights. And it’s not the thing I learned it’s the fact that I’m motivated.
/r/seduction07/03/24 05:56 PM
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No one knows the %. I think most people are on point with a high % failing though. Even at an advanced level all you’re doing is increasing your odds. Instead of 1/100 going well maybe 10 or 20/100 go well.
/r/seduction08/10/22 06:29 PM
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If it’s still fun why break it off. Also I’ve been surprised how many of those situations go from this isn’t going anywhere to actually is going somewhere
/r/seduction08/10/22 06:27 PM
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Hot ones lol. But I get what you’re saying. Maybe have to get creative to make it a new challenge
/r/seduction24/07/22 11:28 PM
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I agree. I think I enjoy it most when your learning all the new stuff and new techniques are exciting. Problem is you still always want to bang girls so not sure how to solve that
/r/seduction24/07/22 11:09 PM
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Feel like you’re likely right. Not having fun and too out one dependant. Causing my vibe to be off and something just isn’t right there.
/r/seduction03/07/22 11:37 PM
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Hmm yea maybe
/r/seduction03/07/22 05:40 PM
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I’m 33 and my buddies 37. You think you feel old lol
/r/seduction03/07/22 08:18 AM
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Yeah always happened when I went sober. But I would typically go sober most nights
/r/seduction23/08/21 10:58 AM
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Yea I’m guessing meditation of some kind but we’ll see if anyone knows.
/r/seduction23/08/21 10:04 AM
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Being nice by choice and being nice to supplicate and try and have sex with a girl are 2 VERY different things. Being nice by choice cause you just want to be a nice guy WITH boundaries. Can be very attractive. Being ‘nice’ because your trying to bang and having no boundaries/being used is not attractive at all. And very creepy.
/r/seduction01/08/21 02:55 PM
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Lots of truth to this but have to be careful as well. I would agree most people that want to see success don’t get you will have lots of shit nights getting rejected by tons of girls. But to have success that’s what it takes sometimes. At the same time IDEALLY it should be fun and not so serious. As that’s what girls respond to best. But I do get when it’s your 3 or 4th night out sober and your exhausted sometimes you need that work ethic mentality to drag your ass to the bar.
/r/seduction31/07/21 04:10 PM
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Yeah would agree on not worrying about it. If she’s texting you lots and messaging first/being flirty that’s all that matters. Why do you need her to be asking lots of questions. People’s most important subject is always themselves anyway.
/r/seduction28/07/21 02:39 PM
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It’s going to feel awkward at first I bet so try to embrace that. Maybe try having something fun to do. Like a mutual board game. Idea might seem lame but I bet it should be enjoyable. Chat first but if you find you are lacking in convo have something like this ready to go.
/r/seduction28/07/21 02:37 PM
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Ok but there are whether you like it or not. I’m not disagreeing on the world going way to far off the deep end and things being way sketchier then they used to be. But if you want to sleep with girls you’ll have to accept this is still true. I know guys that record girls after sex etc so they could prove they feel positive. Honestly isn’t a bad idea these days.
/r/seduction27/07/21 03:12 AM
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It’s not bad advice and it’s reality. If you think the girls just going to say ok every time then goodluck with that. There will always be ‘soft no’s’ in game that you have to read between the lines of. I would agree the me too movement has made it so you’ll want to be more careful but that stuff is also ingrained in women’s subconscious. So they will always play some sort of game
/r/seduction25/07/21 03:27 PM
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Sounds like they want to have sex. But you are in a new environment that will dictate that more then you have been before it seems. The fact they’re drunk isn’t great as drunk guys will have sex with anything sometimes tho lol. If you keep getting lots of attention when they are sober you are probably attractive.
/r/seduction23/07/21 06:23 AM
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Connection. No one secret. Go out lots abs approach lots abs you’ll figure it out. There isn’t an easier way than following the process
/r/seduction23/07/21 06:10 AM
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Be careful id say. Seems very common for girls to want more then just sex where guys basically just want sex. So the ideal game you need is to have sex but have him like you after. Some things to help this are being good in bed. Having an actual connection, so you can try hanging out as friends a few times. Will make the connection stronger if there is one. Try to also be cool and not make it obvious you like him. Try not to be weird but a good example would be you guys hangout as friends. Clear…
/r/seduction23/07/21 06:08 AM
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How old do I look. But then just say it and keep it light. If you sound insecure saying your age she might have an issue. If she finds you attractive she’ll rationalize it. Usually right away. Like saying that’s hot etc or she once dated a guy your age.
/r/seduction23/07/21 05:30 AM
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Not sure exactly on the situation but be aware if she makes it obvious and you never do anything eventually she’ll give up abs find you unnattractive. Also very hard to recover from this point. So if you want something to happen and she’s making it obvious you probably don’t have forever to do it. Ask her to hsvgouf in what could be a friend way. Easy way to really test if she likes you. Like take your dogs fir a walk or something. If there chemistry it’ll be obvious and then escalate to a date …
/r/seduction23/07/21 05:18 AM
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Guys like a challenge so don’t be too easy. Not in a lame way but an interesting way. Waiting 3 dates to have sex because movies said so abs you clearly want to is lame. Him thinking your cool and genuinely not knowing if you are interested but maybe thinks you are maybe doesnt etc can be attractive. Try to be fun and cool but don’t make it obvious you like him. This will be especially hard if you already like him lol. Almost impossible. But IMO a good way to keep a guy interested. Also can try …
/r/seduction23/07/21 05:14 AM
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Lots to learn. Read lots and go out lots abs you’ll learn. No easy way other then that. 4 hours of infield for every hour of theory basically.
/r/seduction23/07/21 05:09 AM
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Being strong or ‘the lighthouse’ with strong masculine energy and not a ton of emotion is attractive. Having lots of emotions but clearly hiding it or pretending your icy and emotionless is lame and unattractive. But it’s good to have emotions don’t force yourself not to if you do
/r/seduction23/07/21 05:07 AM
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Sounds like a really solid date. Genuine fun and no weird game stuff lol. Nice work. She seems into you. I don’t think the advice thing was bad either. Shows confidence.
/r/seduction14/07/21 03:40 PM
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Agreed. Can be a small test to see if your willing to do these kind of favours. Almost a small shit test. But at the same time like you said could just be her asking like a normal person would.
/r/seduction14/07/21 03:31 PM
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Sort of. Just do it once but he genuinely nice about it. If I did it I would expect some kind of favour in return or her to be very appreciative of it. Which is normal. If she asks for it twice that’s a big red flag and I’d blatantly make a point about it as to why you should.
/r/seduction14/07/21 03:30 PM
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Not at this point. But buying it for her isn’t going to help that narrative if you want to avoid it. Can do it once to genuinely just be a nice person but if she asks again politely say no.
/r/seduction14/07/21 03:24 PM
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Sounds like she wants you to get her some fries lol. There’s no sexual ness here if that’s what your getting at. If fact I think she sees you as a guy that would do her favours and is using you. Better off to be polite and just say no and your busy then do it in hopes of sex. Because that’s not why she is asking.
/r/seduction14/07/21 03:16 PM
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Lost my virginity at 19 man 17 is nothing lol. Also tons of guys lose it later then that especially on this forum. As for the girl having more girls will help you care less about this one. Abundance is king. Not always easy to get if your new but worth it. This kind of thing will happen lots if she doesn’t find you attractive as a guy. Become more attractive and better with girls and this situation will turn into her adding you. Talking to you and finding out how attRactive you are and liking yo…
/r/seduction14/07/21 03:09 PM
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Stop being so negative. I actually think your attitude is your biggest problem. Even more then your body type. Sounds like if girls are really important you were given some bad genetics to have success at it. But that doesn’t mean you can’t. Just going to be a bit harder then someone who is tall or muscular etc As for the gym if you want to look muscular your going to have to do I what it takes to get there. Eat more if you want to bulk up. If you can’t then you don’t want it bad enough. That’s …
/r/seduction14/07/21 03:05 PM
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Only way to get over it is to do it more. And it’ll still probably always be there. Never fully goes away. 3 second rule can help though. If you see her and think about it just go do it before you can start thinking about the potential bad scenario is. Try and start with small conversations and build up to full approaches.
/r/seduction14/07/21 02:56 PM
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Be nice because your nice but not a simp kind of nice. Which means don’t be nice because you want to bang be nice because it’s what YOU want to do. Then it’s genuine and has a more masculine grounded energy to it. Also with online I think the flakiness is 10x what it is IRL so keep that in mind. IMO it’s always better to meet people day to day or at the bar. But if you only are looking to online your going to need to focus on a really good profile for girls to see who you are. I actually thin th…
/r/seduction14/07/21 02:45 PM
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Game is basically forever. The better you get at it the easier it will become. Doesn’t have to be a massive chore at the moment it just depends how good you want to get. If you want to see a lot of success right now then go out lots/read lots. If you want to have a life but also understand women need to be part of it just keep it as a side hobby and keep learning. Will extend your learning curve but like I said you can’t ever quit it so might as well keep learning.
/r/seduction14/07/21 02:41 PM
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