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It's not that men don't have an awareness. It's that they know acknowledging the awareness will get them shamed and insulted by women. That's not an excuse, of course. Men don't care because they feel they're not allowed to care. If more women expressed the reality about men's issues, more men would feel comfortable about activism. Alas, most women don't care.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 09:17 PM
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Bullshit. Men have paid in blood sacrifice throughout history to ensure that women are protected and provided for. Women have happily enjoyed this sacrifice on their behalf, and at one point men were respected for it. But now in modern times they have decided to throw a collective tantrum, piss on the faces of all the men who have cared for them in their lives, and dogmatically insist that they are victims. Not only that, but deny, mock, browbeat, and ignore men who suffer, or speak of challenge…
/r/MensRights22/06/13 09:03 PM
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Feminism is built on a foundation of traditionalism and chivalry. It is State-enforced "empowerment without responsibility" for women that simultaneously tries to hold on to all the old-ass traditional privileges.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 08:54 PM
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I'm glad we can agree that most (not all) women are substandard human beings.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 08:45 PM
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She didn't bash feminism. She proudly defended feminism, and was just miffed that her son-property was infringed upon.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 08:32 PM
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This isn't a valid excuse. Most men have historically and currently bent over backwards to make sure women are protected and provided for, suffering and dying by the hundreds of millions in the process. On the other hand, most women can't be bothered to stop and think that maybe men experience issues too.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 08:31 PM
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Women do not care about men in the same way that men care about women. That's not the same as saying "women don't care." Most men have historically and currently bent over backwards to make sure women are protected and provided for, suffering and dying by the hundreds of millions in the process. On the other hand, women can't be bothered to stop and think that maybe men experience issues too.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 08:29 PM
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According to my Women's Studies degree-earning ex, "I'm a woman, and you're a man, and when I want sex you have to have sex with me."
/r/MensRights22/06/13 07:38 PM
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You are beyond delusional if you think these "rules" are applied equally.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 04:54 PM
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Are you honestly going to tell me that this is applied to both genders equally?
/r/MensRights22/06/13 04:44 PM
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Feminists are already starting to call for the legalization of polygamy. They want to make it possible for more women to marry elite males.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 04:25 PM
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The Feminist position on sex: Has a penis? Rapist. Has a vagina? Can't make decisions for herself. Must be treated like child.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 04:19 PM
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Natural consequences will be alleviated for women by the forced sacrifices of men.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 03:36 PM
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Sure. i worded it wrong. I meant to suggest chivalrous men who are not overtly "feminist."
/r/MensRights22/06/13 12:49 PM
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This is wishful thinking. Women, collectively, will never have to deal with the consequences on the scale that men do. And that is because they will selfishly collaborate in the interest of Team Woman, and a whole bunch of men will do whatever they say. They will happily burn men alive in coal furnaces if it keeps this Titanic afloat.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 12:45 PM
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It's projection, because Feminists and their male enablers perceive women as children. It's an ad hominem shaming tactic to shut down debate and prevent people "on the fence" from listening to our message.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 02:01 AM
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I would pay $100 for a chance to draw a giant cock with paint in that gap.
/r/TheRedPill22/06/13 12:12 AM
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I think that's perfectly fine, so long as we don't posit a false equivalency between the Right and the Left when it comes to these issues. There are huge, glaring differences.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 11:21 PM
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Because society regards men as utilities only good for the entertainment, provision, and care of women.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 09:33 PM
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This is why I actually prefer rad fems to the NAFALTs - they are honest.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 08:24 PM
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Some science fiction like Star Trek is very appealing to Feminists, because it offers up the fantasy that biological differences don't exist and/or can be overcome through authoritarian social conditioning.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 08:18 PM
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Religion is the lens through which most people view the world. Don't judge the lens, judge their words and their actions. It's not as if secular humanists are an ally of men.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 07:59 PM
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Yes, and among their penalizers are women who no longer regard them as worthy of their sacred vagina.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 07:18 PM
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Makes sense to me. Look at how many women have fallen in love with the supremacist ideology of Feminism.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 04:58 PM
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I think you underestimate how supremacist the mentality of Feminism is.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 02:49 PM
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Don't get so butthurt. You posted one link that shows some Feminists being slightly reasonable on one issue (but massively bigoted on another, i.e. that men have to be taught not to rape.) You have obviously not had the experience of Feminists viciously attacking anyone who offers advice like what you posted. See my reply elsewhere in this thread.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 01:42 PM
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Because it would impede female privilege.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 01:37 PM
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Bullshit. I have heard numerous feminists state that every single one of those pieces of advice were victim-blaming. In fact, I was viciously harassed by 8 different feminists for four days a few years ago on another social media site for alluding to these pieces of advice. Who called me gay slurs and wished for me to be raped and murdered, among other things. "Some" feminists might be reasonable about this but they are doing a piss-poor job enlightening the rest of their movement. What it comes…
/r/MensRights21/06/13 01:32 PM
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Abused for years as a child by a Feminist woman. As an adult, was emotionally abused, physically abused, and raped by a Feminist woman. Have been turned down for job interviews due to gender in positions I was totally qualified for. I was severely bullied all through high school, and I know there would have been intervention sooner were I female.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 03:47 AM
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Feminism perceives women as children and denies their agency constantly. And it is blatantly obvious many women LIKE that about it.
/r/TheRedPill21/06/13 12:20 AM
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true dat
/r/MensRights21/06/13 12:08 AM
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Yes. You got it. I do not understand why women cannot figure out that their alleged "allies" treat them lower than dirt.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 12:08 AM
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Obviously every man needs to make his own decision but the chances of legal reform ever happening are basically non-existent. MGTOW is the only real solution in this case.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 10:49 PM
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First biggest industry is the "male gaze"
/r/MensRights20/06/13 10:08 PM
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If you have a penis, you can't be raped. This is their actual worldview.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 09:40 PM
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No you haven't. You have a penis, and can't be raped. This is their actual worldview.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 09:39 PM
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Fair enough, but on the other hand, Feminist philosophy says that women aren't even able to consent to sex with a man without it being rape. So we should probably instruct them that "humans are individuals with different tastes."
/r/MensRights20/06/13 08:43 PM
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To Feminism, only women are allowed to desire sex.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 08:34 PM
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Men ALWAYS consent to sex, because they have a penis.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 08:17 PM
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You are supposed to be attractive and desirable to her, but you must never do anything to actually make yourself attractive and desirable, until it has been approved by the Feminist borg-mind. But when you do follow the Feminist borg-mind's tips and they fail spectacularly, it's your fault and you can't complain, ever.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 07:49 PM
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Indeed. Notice how much effort Feminists put into poisoning the well from which men and women both drink from, in the realm of sexuality. I dated a woman for several years who thoroughly enjoyed being dominated in the bedroom, but then had emotional crises because she felt this conflicted with her Feminist belief structure.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 07:18 PM
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That is a major motivation for the women's lobby. But they will give exceptions to hunky criminals.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 06:11 PM
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"'It may be non-violent, but it's difficult to call it "consensual." A woman can not "consent" to sexual intercourse if she makes the decision based on false pretenses, with a partner acting in bad faith."
/r/MensRights20/06/13 06:03 PM
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Yeah! You nailed it. Feminism is a State-empowered augmentation of traditionalism, rather than in opposition to traditionalism.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 05:18 PM
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"My body, my choice"
/r/MensRights20/06/13 05:16 PM
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It is fair to point out that these are all manifestations of female supremacism. (I would throw traditionalism and chivalry in there too.) But the organized feminist movement, which comes from the political Left, is the vanguard of the female supremacist movement.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 03:58 PM
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So does collectivism. Look at how China treats men, and how the Soviets treated men.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 03:55 PM
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Men's value generally goes up with age, and women's goes down. Men who stay single longer, as long as he also keeps improving himself, will be able to set their expectations higher for a wife. Women have to gradually lower their expectations if they want to marry. Eventually, men may decide they don't have any interest in marriage after all, and/or women find they can't marry any man that meets their expectations (realistic or not.) So even if the BIGGEST change we see going on in the marriage m…
/r/MensRights20/06/13 02:17 PM
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Male sexual desire is very profitable for women to exploit, and so women put a high priority on limiting male options for sexual gratification.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 12:18 PM
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I've been called gay slurs by Feminists numerous times online.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 02:29 AM
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It could be argued that some Feminists were on the right track with the Equal Rights Amendment but Phyllis Schlafly and her team of conservative female supremacists put the hammer down on that.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 12:42 AM
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Men have suffered and died throughout human history to protect women. Most women cannot utter a single word in our defense as we are getting trampled on by a hate movement. Not too concerned about being politically correct.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 12:00 AM
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And I will totally feel compelled to stop generalizing when more than fifteen women in the entire world demonstrate they are not self-centered man haters.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 09:57 PM
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I think it has more to do with the fact that it gives women an excuse to discriminate against men and blame men for all their problems.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 09:39 PM
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The GOP is no panacea for men, but Democrats and anti-male Feminism are two peas in a pod. You'll notice that Dr. Helen Smith's book is getting huge buzz and publicity on the Right, and on the Left it's gotten tumbleweeds and crickets.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 07:00 PM
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Oh, believe me. The femizombies will never let this myth go, because it is so useful in their eternal quest to make women feel like victims.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 06:15 PM
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I momentarily was able to stop my male brain from thinking about rape and violence, so that came out.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 05:48 PM
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Women wants to marry "She desires a lifelong commitment with a good man." Man wants to marry "He wants to enslave some poor woman to his patriarchal penis-domination."
/r/MensRights19/06/13 05:46 PM
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Women want a wedding, not a marriage.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 04:20 PM
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Don't worry about the people who don't want to be saved. If you talk to ten people, and only 3 listen, that is 3 who will think more smartly about these topics.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 04:07 PM
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Isn't it totes awesome she can fund her entertainment with his alimony?
/r/MensRights19/06/13 03:49 PM
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Patriarchal male rails criscross Mother Earth as chains on wymyn-slaves; Ironclad penis-chains serve as violent pathways for penis-trains, carrying tools of wymyn-enslavement like cosmetics and fashions, which wymyn would NEVER WEAR if the penis-patriarchy didn't force them to.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 02:35 PM
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Don't Get Married
/r/MensRights19/06/13 02:02 PM
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Wall Street Journal has a regular red-pill columnist (James Taranto) who writes about this stuff regularly. Clearly there are some VERY sympathetic folks over at WSJ.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 02:27 AM
10

Indeed she did. Helen Smith is a badass!
/r/MensRights19/06/13 02:26 AM
2

From what I am hearing yes. I am planning on buying it as gifts for a couple people
/r/MensRights19/06/13 02:23 AM
4

The book is getting good reviews as a basic introduction to the issues, but men's rights regulars probably won't learn anything new.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 09:39 PM
11

I agree, but taken on its own merits, empathy is important. Like you, I won't be satisfied until feminism has been set on fire and thrown into the ocean, but it was a good piece.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 08:39 PM
10

I hear you, but this was honestly a pretty solid piece.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 08:16 PM
47

Two big thumbs up. I actually give her a lot of credit for this. Both men and women should demonstrate empathy for each other.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 08:15 PM
33

James Taranto writes a regular column for the Wall Street Journal, and he is the only openly "red pill" journalist I've seen in the mainstream.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 08:00 PM
2

Should say "expresses her contempt."
/r/MensRights18/06/13 06:39 PM
19

Many feminists genuinely care about equality, but they are not representative of the hateful & supremacist intentions of the feminist movement. I used to be a Feminist. I had many discussions with Feminists on how Feminism was "misguided" and was actually hurting men, women, and children. I was assured, in no uncertain terms, that Feminists were aware that Feminism had "made mistakes" and would be rectifying them post-haste. This was FIFTEEN YEARS AGO. And Feminism just keeps getting worse. Ther…
/r/MensRights18/06/13 05:43 PM
8

Feminism is built on top of traditionalism, rather than in opposition to traditionalism. I acknowledge a few Feminists do call out chivalrous behaviors as sexist, but the vast majority of women & Feminists want "the best of both worlds" rather than equality.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 05:38 PM
51

Feminism is built on top of traditionalism, rather than in opposition to traditionalism. I acknowledge a few Feminists do call out chivalrous behaviors as sexist, but the vast majority of women & Feminists want "the best of both worlds" rather than equality.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 05:37 PM
2

"Spank me mommy! Spank meeeee! Oh please, please, I'm not worthy!"
/r/MensRights18/06/13 03:33 PM
16

I appreciate that you see the absurdity, but a whole bunch of women like being treated like children, and will fight tooth and nail to keep that privilege.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 03:31 PM
142

Feminism is completely dependent on traditional male gender roles.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 03:13 PM
10

"Date me! Date me! Date meeeeeee!" I can practically see the spittle forming on the corners of his mouth.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 03:13 PM
4

I hear it regularly, but that's because I'm good at getting women to speak somewhat honestly on gender issues when I talk to them one-on-one.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 01:46 AM
1

WAAAAAHHHH then we can't have it alllllllllllll!!!111!!11!!!
/r/MensRights18/06/13 12:37 AM
25

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323469804578525450738050038.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion
/r/MensRights17/06/13 10:46 PM
3

Many women will fully acknowledge their shallowness and selfishness, but rationalize it as "but I'm a woman and I deserve it" or "yeah but men are way worse."
/r/MensRights17/06/13 08:02 PM
16

That's awesome. But according to study after study (many of them recent) women still expect their husbands to be the main paycheck earner.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 07:58 PM
2

They don't know what they want, and it's our fault for not providing it.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 06:00 PM
2

Not true. Many companies and organizations offer paid leave. It's not a federal mandate, though, and it shouldn't be.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 04:22 PM
62

Women don't want stay at home husbands. They want career-driven men, then they want to complain that their career-driven man is career-driven, then when he acquiesces and takes a step back from his career, they want a divorce.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 03:42 PM
16

Feminism is a special interest movement for white middle class and upper class women who support the political Left. Conservative women, women of color, and working poor women are not a consideration to them.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 02:18 PM
3

indeed
/r/MensRights17/06/13 03:02 AM
12

Sex workers increase men's sexual options, thereby lowering the price that average women can charge for their sexual services. That's why they're against it. It's not about protecting sex workers, it's about artificially rationing sex.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 12:43 AM
1

Why should I give a shit about other people's newborns?
/r/MensRights16/06/13 08:23 PM
2

That's not true. People can take unpaid family leave. And many individual companies offer paid parental leave.
/r/MensRights16/06/13 08:23 PM
25

Feminism regards women as children, and it disturbs me to no end that most women enjoy it.
/r/MensRights16/06/13 07:39 PM
3

Out of curiosity, how many catcalls do you hear men directing at women? I've heard maybe 3 in 10 years.
/r/MensRights16/06/13 02:19 AM
6

That's a law, not an employer. And that just means companies, taxpayers, and especially people without children are subsidizing your personal choices.
/r/MensRights15/06/13 10:34 PM
6

It's not your employer's job to subsidize "the next generation."
/r/MensRights15/06/13 10:21 PM
1

Fathers who care for their children are penalized by Feminism too.
/r/MensRights15/06/13 10:20 PM
6

Television is designed to turn your daughter into an egomaniac and your son into a servile moral relativist with confused gender identification.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/13 05:47 PM
1

Stop going out of your way to help women, unless you know it will be appreciated and reciprocated. Let the government take care of women, that's what they want anyway.
/r/MensRights15/06/13 05:05 PM
3

I think that any woman who thinks this campaign is reasonable should stop taking half-measures and just move to Saudi Arabia, where she will finally feel at home.
/r/MensRights15/06/13 01:08 AM
5

Send something like this, via email, facebook, letter, or whatever. You will definitely want to be a little more graceful, I'm typing this really fast. : "It has come to my attention that there are some negative things being said about me in this family. If I have wronged somebody, I am left unable to resolve the situation unless it is being directed to me. Spreading gossip is a malicious tactic that does not help the accused or the alleged victim/victims. I kindly request that anyone who may ha…
/r/MensRights14/06/13 08:03 PM
2

How dare you pay attention to me, simply because I am specifically wearing clothes to attract your attention!
/r/MensRights14/06/13 04:24 PM
11

"Celibate Marxist who is thought to be the incarnation of a deified guru insinuates to tell the rest of us how the world works and how women think."
/r/MensRights14/06/13 04:14 PM
1

When I talk about men's rights in public, nothing gets people more angry than talking about male reproductive rights. Even talking about false rape accusations is less controversial in my experience.
/r/MensRights14/06/13 02:19 PM
1

I don't even mind that hookers were messaging me, but it never happened on OK.
/r/MensRights14/06/13 02:14 PM
2

I'm not sure what he is driving at, but if he is claiming that organized Feminism has become a privileged girl's club, I agree completely.
/r/MensRights14/06/13 02:12 PM
3

It's been several years since i did online dating, but as I recall PoF was like the trashiest. I used to have hookers send me messages on there. Are they cleaning their act now?
/r/MensRights14/06/13 06:10 AM
1

This is a churchy religious movie.
/r/MensRights14/06/13 05:32 AM
3

If you like your job, and want to keep it, this isn't a huge deal. I worked in an office building like this, and the women were actually annoyed as hell they had to take a key to the bathroom every single time. If you don't care about your job, you could ask why.
/r/MensRights14/06/13 05:19 AM
3

I am not a violent person but I have a serious urge to go give this guy a wedgie.
/r/MensRights14/06/13 05:14 AM
1

No, it's women's personal responsibility. Completely. No more blaming Feminism for your life choices. I happen to be slightly overweight, and I used to be REALLY overweight. I can point to experiencing abuse as a child as a contributing factor, but I have to acknowledge it was my choice to overeat, and it was also my responsibility to shape up. Cool?
/r/MensRights13/06/13 10:11 PM
4

I totally hear where you're coming from, but I strongly suggest one of the reasons why Feminism has gotten this hideous is because Feminist critics are so conciliatory, rather than holding up a mirror and going "Look at what you folks are doing." I love Feminist critics like Warren Farrell and Christina Hoff Sommers, but they have bent over backwards to appease feminism for decades and have gotten bupkus for their efforts.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 06:34 PM
9

I think they're mostly just focused on rationalizing their continued collaboration with a hate movement.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 06:12 PM
2

True. Feminists and people who don't want to lose their government handouts. Unfortunately, that's over 50% of the United States.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 05:50 PM
13

I used to be a Feminist. I used to talk to other Feminists, in inclusive and moderate language, how "misguided" Feminism was hurting people. I was ASSURED, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Feminists know "mistakes were made" and that reforms were coming posthaste. This was 15 years ago.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 05:34 PM
6

Well if it makes you feel any better, I think left-wing media are whores for Obama.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 05:12 PM
12

Kudos to them, but I have been listening to Feminists proclaim the need for reform and their desire for egalitarianism for 15 years now. I'm frankly fed up. Feminists - You're either for or against supremacism. Choose one.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 05:10 PM
11

They are way more interested in claiming they're "not like that" then they are in actually acting differently.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 04:35 PM
4

Many will reject the idea outright. Others will agree, and then once hypergamy kicks in again when the child is a few years old, she'll become contemptuous of her husband.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 03:21 PM
14

They have no fucking clue, but it's our fault for not providing it.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 02:27 PM
8

The women she was referring to in the article are complaining. Venker (the author) is cool and a good ally for men's rights.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 02:25 PM
5

If women want men who want to be full-time dads, they should find those men and marry them. But no, they marry career-driven men and then want to change them.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 02:01 PM
8

I've only been angrily challenged by guys that I don't have interest in associating with anyway. Not that every guy agrees with me, but they are nice about it at least.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 01:58 PM
2

Nice!
/r/MensRights13/06/13 01:55 PM
5

Venker is about 80% on board with the things that men's rights stands for. She is a proponent of marriage and of chivalry, but much less belligerently than other traditionalists.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 01:53 PM
1

Nice article. Good ammunition when talking about this issue.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 12:29 PM
51

It should make you sick, because it is an example of female supremacism.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 12:25 PM
8

While some stuff she describes is admittedly extreme and not my cup of tea, the answer is to not watch it and let the participants express their agency as they see fit. I just don't understand why more women don't see that feminism denies they have personal agency. In my darker moments I am led to conclude women don't want personal agency.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 11:46 AM
2

I think both boys and girls should be told that it's ok to feel sad or scared for a little while, but they should buck up pretty fast. While allowing people to express emotion is healthy to a point, I'm concerned that society may swing the pendulum to the other extreme. My parents made a lot of mistakes but in this case they never framed it as "boys don't cry." They communicated a gender-neutral message about being mature in the situation.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 11:38 AM
2

My vision is for men and women to enjoy equal opportunity but also face equal accountability for their decisions and their life. If Feminism is pushed back, women will rapidly desire to leap back to a conservative female supremacist position, similar to the model from 50 or so years ago, of fathers caring for their daughters up to the point where husbands take care of their wives. We already see this happening now, with some perceptive women seeing the writing on the wall and trying to rationali…
/r/MensRights12/06/13 11:49 PM
1

I am optimistic that men and women may be ready to change their hearts, but there is basically no chance the government is going to change.
/r/MensRights12/06/13 11:41 PM
4

I honestly can't fathom why you call yourself a Feminist.
/r/MensRights12/06/13 05:02 PM
5

All the top comments are against this shit. Nice to see.
/r/MensRights12/06/13 05:01 PM
7

They're not your friend in the first place if they would drop you like that.
/r/MensRights12/06/13 02:37 PM
2

Damn straight. (Not that the Right is a panacea, but still.)
/r/MensRights11/06/13 10:36 PM
11

I think the best thing women can do is to not only call out the man-haters, but also make a point to talk to men about these issues. Most men are programmed to adjust their behavior in accordance to female approval. Therefore, they won't even acknowledge these issues for fear that it will lose them female approval. So they need to hear some women tell them these are real issues, and that it's ok for them to want to advocate on behalf of themselves and other men. I, as a man, can talk to other me…
/r/MensRights11/06/13 09:20 PM
3

Yeah, I was really happy when the Obama administration made sure to prosecute the financial industry for their grotesque crimes. Wait, what?
/r/MensRights11/06/13 07:17 PM
8

A serious problem that will never be solved calling all men rapists.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 07:01 PM
19

Generalizing all South African men as rapists is a solution?
/r/MensRights11/06/13 06:59 PM
3

Obama will be going full-force feminazi to salvage what is left of his presidency. It remains to be seen if MRAs sympathetic to the left will continue to support their own decimation.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 03:56 PM
4

Count on Obama to double-down on Feminazi to salvage his wrecked presidency too.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 02:22 PM
0

We're going to hear it now. Obama's only hope of salvaging his wrecked presidency is to go full-force feminazi.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 02:21 PM
20

This is a big reason why men should not become feminists. Basically the only way we are allowed to participate is if we come in having internalized that men are scum.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 01:52 PM
33

It's because Feminism was a long, slow con on the West (like boiling a frog slowly in water) but they came in guns blazing in other countries.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 01:50 PM
2

I'm happy you acknowledge that men can be abused too, but what you just said is dishonest. Boys are socialized by men and WOMEN, yes, women, to man up and take it. "Women hold up half the sky." Boys are trained by men and women to value the welfare of women above men, and above their own. Women and some male enablers still put a huge amount of priority on socializing boys and men to be chivalrous. A whole lot of women express a dramatic revulsion to men (and their male partners) when they show w…
/r/MensRights11/06/13 01:24 PM
1

It could be as simple as posting on your social media sites (like Facebook) information about men's issues, such as homelessness, suicide, or male victims of child abuse and domestic violence. Just make the point that if we care about these things when women are victims, then we should care when men are victims too. If you are in school, it could be doing a report on the above. You don't have to be super-experienced in arguing about these issues. It's just about making the point that men matter,…
/r/MensRights11/06/13 03:44 AM
2

I agree, and I don't give a damn what people say about me not abiding by gender roles, but most men are very vulnerable to social shaming from women because they depend on female approval for forming a positive male identity.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 01:49 AM
5

I think the best thing women can do is to not only call out the man-haters, but also make a point to talk to men about these issues. Most men are programmed to adjust their behavior in accordance to female approval. Therefore, they won't even acknowledge these issues for fear that it will lose them female approval. So they need to hear some women tell them these are real issues, and that it's ok for them to want to advocate on behalf of themselves and other men. I, as a man, can talk to other me…
/r/MensRights10/06/13 03:19 PM
49

Excellent. Welcome. We're happy to have you here.
/r/MensRights10/06/13 03:14 PM
0

I agree completely, but I used to think this movie was hilarious. I remember cringing during the rape scene. I literally about suffocated laughing when he fakes an orgasm in the first few scenes of the movie.
/r/MensRights10/06/13 02:48 PM
32

Is it just me, or has feminism been becoming more authoritarian lately? From this, to Facebook censorship, to calls for government coercion against their opponents, to "Shut The Fuck Up!!!!" behavior, it seems like they're becoming more desperate. Whereas before, they would stick to social shaming and ignoring.
/r/MensRights10/06/13 01:27 PM
6

Feminism has not granted men greater flexibility, because most women (including feminists) rely on men sticking to traditional roles and apply pressure to keep us in them. The minute that women declared themselves "strong and independent" and free from her traditional obligations, ALL of men's social obligations to her provision and protection should have ended immediately. No more chivalry in social situations, no more marching off to war to "protect the women," no more special treatment in the…
/r/MensRights10/06/13 01:07 PM
17

The "look a woman did something shitty" posts are a necessary response to society's persistent efforts to paint women as blameless actors who never do anything wrong. Female rapists and abusers are regarded as either nonexistent, or their victims deserved it somehow. Female criminals are given a slap on the wrist. Evidence of all of the above is suppressed in the media. When mainstream society no longer puts a male face on evil and irresponsibility, then you may have a point.
/r/MensRights10/06/13 12:57 AM
5

Agreed, but there are zillions of men and women who have been feminist for decades who regard it as the One True Religion, and sing kumbayah incessantly.
/r/MensRights09/06/13 10:50 PM
20

Feminism, especially in the past several years, is focused on privileging middle class and upper class white women who support the political Left. If you're a conservative woman, they smear you. If you're a woman who questions Feminism, they imply you are a brainwashed puppet of men. If you're a woman of color, they give lip service to valuing your viewpoints but that's all. If you're a woman who lives in the Middle East or North Africa, they support President Obama's efforts to fund political p…
/r/MensRights09/06/13 10:48 PM
7

All I hear in that article is a man positioning his own servitude as a sign of manly prowess. He's also strawmanning MRAs as only advocating for a Statist solution. Maybe he likes his servitude, or he's planning to go down in a blaze of glory someday to protect "tradition," and that's fine, but it is not a very intelligent critique of the MRM.
/r/MensRights09/06/13 10:28 PM
-11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YUkbuhXzbvI
/r/MensRights09/06/13 10:10 PM
10

There are some MRAs who are way too conciliatory to Feminists, and I have no doubt there will continue to be colonization attempts. But again, don't see theism plus happening in the MRM, because I think most of us have the intestinal fortitude to tell them to go pound sand if it comes to that. We are obviously not needy for approval from women around these parts.
/r/MensRights09/06/13 09:37 PM
3

I believe everyone deserves human rights and equal opportunity. I come from more of a libertarian perspective than many MRAs, so I am generally against organized attempts to "make people equal" i.e. ensuring equality of outcome.
/r/MensRights09/06/13 09:29 PM
20

Do you mean my claim that men aren't allowed to evolve gender roles? Here's a big example. The minute that women declared themselves "strong and independent" and free from her traditional obligations, ALL of men's social obligations to her provision and protection should have ended immediately. No more chivalry in social situations, no more marching off to war to "protect the women," no more special treatment in the workplace or in academia. However, that is NOT what has happened. Women, general…
/r/MensRights09/06/13 09:17 PM
-11

President Obama supports post-birth abortion. Meaning that a woman and her doctor can choose to kill a baby after it has already been born. Spoke in defense of it in the Illinois House as a state senator.
/r/MensRights09/06/13 09:04 PM
9

This is a "man up" argument. If he wants to see men continue to be fed to the thresher maw of the gynocentric state, that's his choice, but he should save himself the embarrassment of dressing it up as bravado.
/r/MensRights09/06/13 08:59 PM
1

That's because Atheism acquiesced to the bullying. I don't see us doing that.
/r/MensRights09/06/13 08:50 PM
75

I believe many feminists are, on balance, good people who may honestly think they are serving the cause of equality or egalitarianism. I used to be an egalitarian feminist, and was actually quite active and outspoken. BUT BUT BUT - The hate, bigotry, and discrimination fomented by Feminism has been going on for decades now. We can point to colossal amounts of evidence that the Feminist movement has deliberately harmed, and indirectly caused harm, to men, women, and children for the benefit of me…
/r/MensRights09/06/13 08:46 PM
-6

Yes. Consider that our feminist President advocates a woman's right to kill her baby after it has already been born.
/r/MensRights09/06/13 07:24 PM
3

Generalizing? I have been talking about gender issues for over 15 years, and I have NEVER heard a man advocate that. (I am aware some sick psycho men do cause women to abort against their will.)
/r/MensRights09/06/13 07:23 PM
11

Oh good idea. I'll call the restaurant to see if they have it on security camera. I'll tell them it's to "expose a pig."
/r/MensRights09/06/13 05:31 PM
18

Don't get married. Just don't. You have a GREATER than 50% chance of getting divorced and the laws are designed to fuck you over. Especially if you have kids and/or she falsely accuses you of abuse. DON'T DO IT!!!!
/r/MensRights09/06/13 05:30 PM
15

LOL. Yeah. Just the other night I was having a quiet dinner at the bar of a nice restaurant and some woman gave me the "20 questions" flirting tactic right in front of her male partner. "What do you do? Where do you live? Where are you from? Is that entree good? Will you compete against this loser I'm stuck with for my attentions, if I toss my hair and wiggle my chest some more?"
/r/MensRights09/06/13 04:26 PM
22

It is a total falsehood to generalize traditional societies, because they were in constant flux with many differences between them. But many of the things that Feminists call "patriarchal oppression" were actually class oppression, which treated people at a lower class poorly, and often treated men much, much worse. Also, the "gender roles" that feminists decry as patriarchal oppression were often mandated because women simply could not perform many roles due to lack of physical strength and end…
/r/MensRights09/06/13 02:17 PM
22

Feminism inspired all kinds of abusive behaviors from my mom when i was growing up, so i feel your pain.
/r/MensRights09/06/13 02:07 PM
4

Not so. We loudly and clearly also blame political and economic elites (made up of mostly men) for capitalizing on Feminism to gain power. AND we blame men for putting women on pedestals and not calling them out on shitty behavior. We also heap tons of scorn on conservatives that put women on pedestals and treat men poorly.
/r/MensRights09/06/13 12:46 PM
13

The radicals run the feminist movement. Always have.
/r/MensRights09/06/13 04:38 AM
1

The radicals run the feminist movement. Always have.
/r/MensRights09/06/13 04:38 AM
2

Oh I agree. Feminism is built on primitivism that treats women as more important than men.
/r/MensRights08/06/13 10:54 PM
-1

I agree completely. Women are jumping from one perspective to another, depending on whatever benefits them in the moment. But that doesn't mean that Feminism fits a conservative ideology. It's a shapeshifter of supremacism.
/r/MensRights08/06/13 09:06 PM
-6

Feminism isn't conservative, it's a radical supremacist hate movement that takes advantage of whatever gives it the upper hand.
/r/MensRights08/06/13 08:37 PM
23

"Women are strong and independent and better than men at everything! Men should take care of us and buy us shit because we have vaginas!"
/r/MensRights08/06/13 06:34 PM
1

This is an attempt by Democrats and Feminists (same thing) to empower their fellow travelers in universities to destroy the lives of political opponents.
/r/MensRights07/06/13 10:19 PM
1

Feminism is a form of traditionalism, because like traditionalism it is built on the notion that women are to be cared for and alleviated of adult responsibility for their actions, while men are disposable and responsible for their actions.
/r/MensRights07/06/13 09:08 PM
4

Her Twitter profile is listed on the page I believe.
/r/MensRights07/06/13 07:52 PM
24

Clearly Feminism is faltering in the US, as this woman has obviously not been educated on VAWA provisions for vagina owners wanting to make good on a divorce.
/r/MensRights07/06/13 07:19 PM
7

Not sure what your point is? Bullying is wrong, period. Whether its over sexual preference or anything else. I don't know why she's specifying gay men.
/r/MensRights07/06/13 05:56 PM
3

I think they are parallel paths. There is clear opposition to the recognition of male humanity, coming from Feminism and other Traditionalist belief systems.
/r/MensRights07/06/13 05:27 PM
2

Fantastic, except for "gay men are getting bullied." Uh, straight men get bullied too.
/r/MensRights07/06/13 03:46 PM
5

Female Privilege: "Women are adults who should be taken seriously, except for when Mother Nature makes things happen in ladyparts."
/r/MensRights07/06/13 02:46 PM
7

"Men are selfish lovers and misogynists, and don't care about their partner. But when they care about the pleasure of their partner, they are selfish lovers and misogynists." -Feminism
/r/MensRights07/06/13 02:43 AM
2

"I was stabbed in the gut repeatedly with a bayonet, and left to die in a fetid trench filled with mustard gas. I started to feel sorry for myself, but then I remembered that women have to be nurses."
/r/MensRights06/06/13 07:41 PM
8

Feminists deny the reality of male rape victims, and have used their bureaucratic and political power to cover for female rapists and child sex predators.
/r/MensRights06/06/13 06:15 PM
4

I hate to criticize the mods, because it is a volunteer position, but I found the blog article in 3 seconds. So they could have done the same before labeling "may be fake."
/r/MensRights06/06/13 04:15 PM
17

THIS IS NOT FAKE. I'm looking at the blog right now.
/r/MensRights06/06/13 02:03 PM
7

"Not All Feminists Are Like Islamic Theocrats!!!!"
/r/MensRights06/06/13 01:52 PM
2

I mean it sincerely. In fact, I suspect she only eats live puppies once a month rather than every week like the rest of them.
/r/MensRights06/06/13 04:46 AM
4

I mean it sincerely. In fact, I suspect she only eats live puppies once a month rather than every week like the rest of them.
/r/MensRights06/06/13 04:45 AM
8

Naomi Wolf is one of the least vile among modern Feminist mouthpieces.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 11:56 PM
8

If you look at the comments, you'll find a glowing example of Feminist "logic" by someone who straight-up says that facts aren't worth paying attention to.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 08:26 PM
6

I, for one, am thankful that society is standing up and insisting that women are the default caretakers of children. As a man, I will go about pursuing career success and enjoying my multiple intellectual interests, and leave child caretaking to the ladies. After all, such things are clearly woman’s work. -heavy sarcasm-
/r/MensRights05/06/13 05:07 PM
-3

Like most feminists she doubts women are capable of being fully-independent adults, so wants to jerry-rig equality and special treatment in the most advantageous way possible.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 04:43 PM
9

Very nice article. She's been a little tardy in covering this issue so it's good to see.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 04:03 PM
3

Translation: "I AM SO DESIRABLE! I'M HOT! EVERY MAN WANTS ME BUT THEY CAN'T HAVE ME! OH YEAH I FORGOT WHITE MEN R TEH SCUM, ERREBODY KNOWS THAT! LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THE TIME I WORE MY HIJAB IN AN ELEVATOR..."
/r/MensRights05/06/13 03:21 AM
6

Feminists don't want women to be successful. They want them to be politically-useful dependents with victim complexes.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 10:49 PM
17

I brought up this very point, and she ended the conversation.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 09:56 PM
22

My own mother says that men should "accept" female privilege because "women need it" and the hardships men face as a result "make you stronger." I have no sisters. She is choosing the benefit of women she doesn't even know over her own son.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 09:07 PM
1

She doesn't talk about Feminism often, but this is one of my favorite videos from a female anti-feminist- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo4vUIPbCdk Token Libertarian Girl has fully admitted to being socially awkward and eccentric. I don't think she is trying to talk down to anyone, I just think she is one of the many "smart and awkward" people running around in the world. If I made YouTube videos, I'd probably sound like a male version of her without trying to condescend to anyone.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 07:56 PM
1

There is a lot of truth to that. Male feminists are often doing it in reaction to being losers in traditional hierarchies, and I believe it is the same for women.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 05:27 PM
2

I totally get that social indoctrination against men is pervasive, but eventually people have to take personal responsibility too. If a child is taught by his parents to be racist, I'll have some empathy. If the child is in their 30's and is still a racist, it's their fault.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 04:19 PM
2

Fuck that shit. We don't give the Westboro Baptist Church passes for being victims of social conditioning.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 02:52 PM
4

If this is true, it's awesome. The war against men will not turn until men stand up for themselves like this, and then walk away.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 02:40 PM
2

It's going to be interesting whether Facebook values Feminism over money, because the more they turn into the thought police, the more people are going to disengage from Facebook. Note: disengaging does not = leaving Facebook. It just means not using it as much. Teenagers are already disengaging from Facebook rapidly, because they're tired of their parents and teachers reading their updates. I guarantee you, Wall Street is not going to be happy if Facebook commits slow-bleed suicide to please to…
/r/MensRights04/06/13 02:30 PM
3

No. Women control the majority of wealth. http://investing.covestor.com/2013/03/consultant-kimberly-clouse-women-investors-are-a-huge-opportunity-for-financial-firms
/r/MensRights04/06/13 12:40 PM
23

Women are the majority of voters, earn the majority of college degrees, and control the majority of wealth in the u.s. If a woman hasn't been elected president yet, it's not the fault of men.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 11:37 PM
4

Sure, but lots of men who dominate their professions or intellectual pursuits are submissive to women.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 09:21 PM
2

Feminism conquered the entire western world while calling all men rapists. I think they'll survive a fat joke.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 08:13 PM
4

Women like men who display excellence and/or social dominance. This may or may not mean they are a natural alpha.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 08:12 PM
6

Feminism conquered the entire Western world while calling all men rapists. I think they'll survive a fat joke.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 08:10 PM
5

The problem is that her and many other Feminists are browbeating men into complying with an ideology that will make them self-hating involuntary celibates.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 08:10 PM
15

Feminism conquered the Western world while calling all men rapists.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 08:07 PM
9

The people who really need to read stuff like this are the male feminists. Most of them are doing it out of the incredibly stupid belief that women will want to date them for it.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 08:06 PM
40

Yeah, they are trying to rationalize why they can't get attractive men. "You can't handle a STRONG woman!!!!" claptrap
/r/MensRights03/06/13 06:38 PM
37

Why didn't the misogynist white privileged oppressor keep dating me?!??!?!
/r/MensRights03/06/13 04:49 PM
13

Good point, it is a class-based ideology. oppressed class vs oppressor class, divided by gender
/r/MensRights03/06/13 04:47 PM
15

True on both points.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 03:45 PM
274

Why won't the misogynist rapist oppressors ask me out?!??!?!
/r/MensRights03/06/13 03:44 PM
19

Actually, she's also saying she scares off the men who are "chill" about it.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 02:56 PM
178

This whole thing is basically a prominent feminist admitting her ideology sucks when it comes to forming a positive dynamic with the opposite sex. She doesn't like men who think the same way she does, because they're not masculine. But her Feminism scares off all the other men.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 02:38 PM
14

She is stamping her feet and quitting because AVfM is open to ideas her crypto-totalitarian sensibilities can't handle. Notice how AVfM forgives her for her fabulously ignorant tantrums against libertarians and MGTOW but she can't handle other people's views. I should add that I appreciated many of her blogs and her views. I don't even mind that she doesn't care for MGTOW or right-wing politics. I agree to disagree on those things. The problem is, she doesn't.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 10:46 AM
3

Because they don't perceive that it is to their benefit.
/r/MensRights02/06/13 10:11 PM
5

I have heard about 10,000 different definitions of feminism in my adult life, so this isn't as convincing as you may have hoped.
/r/MensRights02/06/13 08:37 PM
4

This is a cool video. Not saying I would agree with them on everything but they seem to be moving in a positive direction.
/r/MensRights02/06/13 08:20 PM
5

I said nothing about women being beyond all hope. I also said nothing about men avoiding women altogether. Men ARE avoiding relationships in growing numbers. On one side we have hookup culture and on the other side we have mgtow, and both groups are growing.
/r/MensRights02/06/13 01:39 AM
1

I imagine male expats would be very vulnerable to a cute Chinese woman seducing him, after he's been dealing with Western harridans his whole life.
/r/MensRights01/06/13 06:47 PM
141

Woman throwing away loving, supportive, loyal guy in the hopes of a fat wallet around the corner. And they wonder why men are avoiding relationships.
/r/MensRights01/06/13 06:33 PM
3

Dr. Murray Straus has documented the ways Feminists distort domestic violence research to hide male victims and female perpetrators (the blog contains a link to the study) http://menaregood.com/wordpress/straus-exposes-the-academic-veils-placed-on-domestic-violence-research/ Feminists have opposed shared parenting bills in several states, successfully defeating them in MI, MN, and MD. This is just a couple of examples. I'm on my way to a meeting but there are many more.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 07:56 PM
1

That's the big question. Also, there will be a Democrat primary for a nominee, and if she is looking vulnerable other Democrat candidates won't hesitate to bring up her dirt.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 07:25 PM
1

Women are valued for sex appeal, and that can get out of hand in many cases. Especially if it prompts disrespectful behavior. But, women CHOOSE the clothes they wear and their manner of behavior. Many women want to look sexy. And Feminist claims that this is some kind of male conspiracy are denying female agency. Feminists are willfully blind to the objectification of men for their wealth, social status, career, and/or height. It's somehow totally acceptable for women to be outright mercenaries …
/r/MensRights31/05/13 07:05 PM
3

A year ago I would have agreed but I think that ship is sailing.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 06:50 PM
30

"Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat." Hillary Clinton.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 06:01 PM
1

If you're handsome, athletic, or exceptional in some way, you can be nice and women will like you for it. But that's because she already perceives you as dominant in some way.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 05:26 PM
1

Here's where this tumult comes from - Our culture, primarily due to feminists and social conservatives, have foisted dirty lies onto several generations about what women want in men. Basically, everything men have been taught about what women want is steaming piles of caca. They did this to demonize male sexuality, make men more easily manipulated, and place women on undeserved moral pedestals. Due to the manosphere, their lies are burning like vampires in the sun. Rather than acknowledging that…
/r/MensRights31/05/13 05:00 PM
5

Feminists don't want violence against women, or men, to lessen. Their paychecks and propaganda depend on it.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 04:24 PM
13

I have similar experiences. High Five!
/r/MensRights31/05/13 03:33 PM
4

Hehe
/r/MensRights31/05/13 03:32 PM
20

Yes, also the vain posturings of men who don't have status in traditional male hierarchies.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 03:16 PM
6

Cracked: "I like being friends with you Suzy Q, but I don't know why you date Roscoe. He treats you like crap, and he's cheated on you four times. You know I would treat you better!" Suzy Q: "Oh, I wish Roscoe was as sweet, kind, and understanding as you! But I LOVE him!" Cracked: "I'm going to march in the Slutwalk next weekend and protest those troglodyte MRAs. I'm hoping to meet some women there who want an equal partnership!" Suzy Q: "You just keep being yourself, and the right woman will ap…
/r/MensRights31/05/13 02:59 PM
3

Why would you divulge this information? It's none of their business.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 12:36 AM
4

Yeah I have long supported jury nullification as a way to protest unjust laws, i.e. marijuana enforcement.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 10:16 PM
15

It's lying to ratchet up the fear narrative, which Feminists do as easily as breathing.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 10:14 PM
0

If I put 500 feminists in a focus group, and ask them what feminism stands for, I would get 500 different answers. And then if I found those same 500 feminists three weeks later, and put them in the same focus group, I would get another 500 different answers. Feminism has a widely shapeshifting definition that seems to be determined on whatever is advantageous in the moment. Therefore, I have to judge Feminism not by its definition but by what it DOES. And what it DOES is: Lobby for special priv…
/r/MensRights30/05/13 07:05 PM
2

At least now investors will know which companies to divest from before they start losing money.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 06:39 PM
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She also said that she wouldn't want to be in close proximity to people who are concerned about false rape accusations, for fear they would rape her. And, she said that the only time men experience domestic violence is when their fists get bruised from hitting women.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 06:34 PM
2

Yeah I agree. Atheists wonder why they're not more accepted, and a lot of it has to do with their belligerent stances on various political and social issues. I am an atheist but I don't want to have anything to do with the atheist movement, because I don't feel my views on the existence of God has anything to do with politics, gender, or economics.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 06:06 PM
0

The female supremacy is always going to be there, because the vast majority of the population percieves it as the natural way to live. Egalitarianism is one way to counter the legal and social framework that handicaps men for the benefit of women. It's not the only way - promoting a free society based on first principles does it too. But egalitarianism appeals to the better angels of people's nature, especially those who claim to be concerned about "equal rights" and soforth. It would be nice if…
/r/MensRights30/05/13 05:37 PM
6

We don't have to lie about how awful Feminism is. We can point to a decades-long history of deliberately pushing for special privilege, deliberately hiding evidence of male victims of rape and domestic violence, and deliberately spreading hateful propaganda about men. Many Feminists are genuinely concerned about fairness and humanitarianism. Feminism is emphatically opposed to fairness and humanitarianism.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 03:59 PM
2

Society will continue to care more about women than men because that is in our biological programming. There will be some people who will be inspired to rise above the knuckle-dragging, but most people won't. In case you haven't noticed, humans are generally conformist, scared-shitless lemmings.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 03:38 PM
2

Indeed. It is a totalitarian mindset and actually opposed to the liberal tradition. (Liberalism doesn't actually mean what Democrats claim it means.)
/r/MensRights30/05/13 02:17 PM
1

In public, when I am around regular men, I go full-throated MRA with lots of humor. When I am around progressive men and women, I go egalitarian. I have experienced a lot of success this way, and really only encounter resistance from actual female supremacists.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 02:17 PM
1

I am extremely successful with egalitarian-framed arguments, unless there are actual, honest female supremacists in the conversation which has happened. I.E. they say "Women are more important than men, it doesn't matter if men suffer." The problem is, none of the people I enlighten are willing to do anything about it. EXTRA TIP: I've won over some women by pointing out how Feminism removes their personal agency, but you have to know her pretty well first, and know how much of a bold thinker she…
/r/MensRights30/05/13 02:12 PM
3

Egalitarianism is a path through which men's rights issues can be acknowledged and still feel "safe" for a significant part of the population. Current society is so anti-male, a lot of people will reject the idea that men face challenges unless we make arguments from an egalitarian perspective. In my own experience, the only way I get anywhere talking about these issues in public is by packaging it as egalitarianism or as "supporting men's rights helps women." Scant few people give a shit about …
/r/MensRights30/05/13 01:58 PM
4

I agree that is a concern, but I don't agree that the movement is pulling punches. We do have some progressives barging in and throwing fits but they are being countered by prominent members of the community who aren't selling out for nobody. Whether we like it or not the "social justice" zombies are extremely appealing to a large segment of the population, especially young people - a segment that is NEVER going to listen to full-throated mras.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 03:50 AM
6

Yeah, and only about 1 out of 10 of these women are going to do anything about it. The rest will complain, blame men, and marry the government. But considering we can't even get most men interested in this stuff I can't point too many fingers.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 03:21 AM
18

I'm a tall, well-educated, well-paid professional in my 30's who is consistently regarded as good looking and charming by women. I will never, ever get married and won't even date unless I find the particular woman fabulously interesting and feel she is of good moral character.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 01:59 AM
9

I hear you, but untold millions of men and women in our society are utterly mystified as to why men aren't "manning up" and need to be spoon-fed this stuff.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 01:56 AM
1

Yep.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 01:54 AM
2

Some people have criticized her reliance on personal stories rather than facts, but I think this reaches out to potential allies who aren't moved by facts.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 01:13 AM
-1

Feminists want to eradicate marriage completely. Second-wavers were very clear on this. Third-wavers realized they had to hide their true intentions or women would fight them. Feminism desires the destruction of the male-female dynamic and to solidify female dependence on the government.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 01:10 AM
-4

Power differential is that she has a holy vagina and can do no wrong in the eyes of the law, whereas you have a penis and are therefore guilty of every bad thing that has ever happened in the history of the world.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 12:37 AM
3

Thanks, I am using this link in the discussions on the article.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 11:59 PM
8

Radical Feminism = Feminism. The non-radical feminists are useful idiots complicit in the hate and supremacism.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 11:58 PM
21

Yes, they have opposed it and successfully defeated it in three different states in fact. Michigan, Minnesota, and Maryland. Girl Writes What has talked about this. NOW compares fathers who desire custody to woman-batterers in press releases.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 10:18 PM
6

Radical feminists are honest feminists. "Nice" feminists are deluded or silently complicit.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 08:58 PM
10

I think there is a lot of truth to it but I regard feminism as a pretty straightforward supremacist movement, rather than wholly a creation of projection. Hate movements do a lot of projection, but there is more behind it than just projection.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 07:39 PM
2

Yeah, this case shows the clear female supremacist position of many in our society.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 06:20 PM
73

A couple of years ago I was told by one of the "nice" feminists that the works of Jackson Katz would help men. Seems to me it's just more of the crypto-traditionalism & chivalry that Feminism demands.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 04:27 PM
1

New Slogan: "Men don't let men get eaten by Feminists in 2013."
/r/MensRights29/05/13 02:09 PM
3

Oh yeah i forgot.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 03:03 AM
5

Nope. This is feminism. The radicals run the movement.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 03:03 AM
11

It's their ideology, not mine. I believe women are adults and I wish Feminism believed the same.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 03:02 AM
14

So when Feminists demand female-only privileges be granted to them on account of having a vagina, they are showing themselves to be strong and independent? Were you a Feminist before or after the lobotomy?
/r/MensRights29/05/13 03:01 AM
3

"benevolent sexism - that we demand"
/r/MensRights28/05/13 10:48 PM
370

Feminism : The notion that women are infants and men are monsters.
/r/MensRights28/05/13 08:37 PM
3

Most women don't understand themselves, and instead cling to solipsism, Oprah twaddle, and the hamster.
/r/MensRights28/05/13 06:49 PM
1

I think that's a fair observation.
/r/MensRights28/05/13 04:49 PM
5

Dumb
/r/MensRights28/05/13 04:22 PM
43

This is because Feminism only cares about white women, and they have worked to perpetuate this primitive cultural bias.
/r/MensRights28/05/13 02:36 PM
4

Delusional.
/r/MensRights28/05/13 11:28 AM
1

The Left and Feminism are two peas in a pod.
/r/MensRights28/05/13 01:22 AM
5

He's joking. That blog is pretty far to the Right.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 03:36 PM
6

Well, there's also the fact that the bridal industry is a financial behemoth, & the wedding industry in general is fixated on female desires. If men and women were equally interested in marriage, we would see the groom industry with some market share compared to women and men would be as delighted to plan a wedding as women.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 12:51 AM
-3

It is probably all him, signing under hundreds of different accounts.
/r/MensRights25/05/13 12:09 AM
2

The really hilarious thing is, what I'm talking about doesn't have anything to do with friendzoning. Ouicrudites: Here is a sausage pizza. Whiners: ZOMG I FUCKING HATE BBQ CHICKEN PIZZA YOU FUCKER
/r/MensRights24/05/13 09:15 PM
0

They like me! They really like me!!!!
/r/MensRights24/05/13 09:12 PM
3

Indeed, but it's not nearly as effective these days as it used to be. The desire for female approval is still incredibly strong in men, but only some of us see military service as a good way to get that. Back in the day millions of men went off to war with only the thought of female approval lighting the way.
/r/MensRights24/05/13 08:12 PM
11

Especially considering 90% of the time, what women say they want isn't what they want.
/r/MensRights24/05/13 07:34 PM
16

Step 1: Tell boys that they are disruptive and inferior to the girls in their classes. Step 2: Once boy reaches puberty, assume that he is a potential rapist and woman batterer. Also assume his female contemporaries can do no wrong. Step 3: Tell pubescent male that he must be a perfect gentleman and repress anything that makes him masculine if he wants females to like him. Shame him when he happens to notice that females throw themselves at his most aggressive male classmates. Tell the females t…
/r/MensRights24/05/13 05:50 PM
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I think that their design was to make females dependent on the State. Men who desire to protect women are far more likely to be willing to go to war than men who don't. So, if war was the intention they did it wrong. But I would not be surprised if they resort to something like that to get rid of excess penises.
/r/MensRights24/05/13 05:21 PM
18

Actually, the only thing the Japanese government is doing is increasing tax breaks for having children. So bachelors get to subsidize the choices of couples and single mothers. The Japanese media, and the females, are directing the exact same shaming language at these men as we get in the US.
/r/MensRights24/05/13 05:17 PM
16

Yes this is highly relevant. The article itself and the pitiful shaming language in the comments. I think the West is rapidly approaching these numbers although the US will unfortunately be slower because of the strong religious influence in this country. I salute my fellow Japanese bachelors and say "Gentlemen, let us eat grass."
/r/MensRights24/05/13 05:16 PM
2

It wasn't clear to me until about five years ago how mendacious and dishonest Feminism was. But long before that I knew that Feminism did have some problems. I was just still of the belief that was the "radicals" rather than something that was endemic to the entire movement.
/r/MensRights24/05/13 12:35 PM
1

Yeah it is really nice to see. Hell, I used to be an egalitarian feminist.
/r/MensRights24/05/13 05:18 AM
3

I realize that Feminists are emotionally and financially invested in keeping women scared & stupid, so nothing in this video will change their minds. But it is a rational, reasonable, and compassionate video on personal safety. from a woman who has disclosed that she was raped.
/r/MensRights24/05/13 04:43 AM
6

Stop mansplaining.
/r/MensRights24/05/13 03:57 AM
4

It's reasonable to debate the consent issue, but 14 is quite young. The point is that no one would be protesting if it were a man, and many would want him prosecuted fully.
/r/MensRights24/05/13 02:22 AM
2

Rape totally cool, as long as the perp is a woman. Bonus points if gay. But if it's a man, it's rape culture of course.
/r/MensRights23/05/13 11:25 PM
0

It is from a documentary on sex workers in France. Unfortunately, I don't have the name or a link. :(
/r/MensRights23/05/13 08:51 PM
1

It is from a documentary on sex workers in France. Unfortunately, I don't have the name or a link. :(
/r/MensRights23/05/13 08:51 PM
20

It is from a documentary on sex workers in France. Unfortunately, I don't have the name or a link. :(
/r/MensRights23/05/13 08:51 PM
38

I actually agree that outlandish accusations against men often come from projecting their own fantasies. "I fantasize about rape sometimes so that means ALL MEN WANT TO RAPE ALL THE TIME." But this is a very deep, nuanced discussion that is not touched on in the quote we are discussing.
/r/MensRights23/05/13 08:03 PM
6

"You guys are taking the message out of context. The whole point of "teach men not to rape" is to react to the message feminists dislike about "teach women not to get raped" by not walking alone at night, watching what they drink and wear, etc." Sorry, but this isn't accurate. They use it in MANY, MANY more contexts than this. Example: Recently, during the gun control debate in the US, conservative women said that women could stop a rape from happening by having a gun in her house or a concealed…
/r/MensRights23/05/13 07:39 PM
2

Perceptive observation. Warmongering "conservatives" do that too so there is plenty of blame to go around. Basically whenever a group of people wants to get violent against another group of people some of them will utter "protect the womens" as a justification.
/r/MensRights23/05/13 07:32 PM
108

I don't like the "lesbian" characterization. It would be better and more accurate to say they are man-hating supremacists. Their sexuality is not germane to the discussion.
/r/MensRights23/05/13 06:58 PM
31

Feminism- "Shaming fat people is wrong, but people who believe men deserve human rights are misogynist rape-apologist 40 year old virgins." "Shaming fat people is wrong, but men watch porn and use sex toys because they can't get a real woman." "Shaming fat people is wrong, but men who are against male circumcision are wimps." "Shaming fat people is wrong, but when men talk about sexism they experience they are mansplaining." "Shaming fat people is wrong, but fathers who desire shared custody of …
/r/MensRights23/05/13 06:32 PM
1

The reality is also that some (not all) women are insatiably attracted to violent, sexually-aggressive men and reject men who have firm moral convictions on violence. That doesn't mean they deserve to be raped, but based on market economics, if there are incentives for certain behavior, more of it will happen.
/r/MensRights23/05/13 06:06 PM
2

I would give the Feminist movement thumbs-up on this issue if they changed their position from "Men can stop rape" and "Teach men not to rape" to something that included everyone.
/r/MensRights23/05/13 06:01 PM
2

I can see that. I'd actually like the Feminist movement to use their influence on the Obama Administration to remove financial and military support from Islamic countries that abuse women. (But Feminists will never do this because they only care about white professional women in the West.)
/r/MensRights23/05/13 05:59 PM
3

"It's also faulty logic to imply that teaching men not to rape implies it is inherent." No, it's not. It implies that men will think there is nothing wrong with violently sexually assaulting someone unless we tell them that's wrong. Even babies and small children have an inborn sense that violence is wrong. People who do NOT have that inborn sense have a mental disorder and / or they experienced abuse themselves. "clearly, not even the feminists believe rape is an inborn behavior in men!" Yes, t…
/r/MensRights23/05/13 05:46 PM
3

It only appears superficially acceptable because we live in a man-hating culture.
/r/MensRights23/05/13 05:33 PM
6

And this might be somewhat reasonable if it were in that context. But Feminists project it onto all men, everywhere. In fact, Feminists actually cover for Islamic men who rape and abuse women. This is why something like "Teach people to understand and respect each other's sexual boundaries."
/r/MensRights23/05/13 05:32 PM
3

WHAT? YOU MEAN THE POLITICAL LEFT PANDERS TO WOMEN WITH A VICTIM COMPLEX? WHO KNEW!?!??!??!?!
/r/MensRights23/05/13 05:29 PM
3

Yes I had a gay friend who's much younger partner basically held him upside down and shook until all the money in his pockets came out. I don't think it's a man or woman thing. Some people are shitty, and will take advantage when they are allowed to do so.
/r/MensRights23/05/13 05:02 PM
3

Nice job man. I rarely discuss these issues at work but I have discussed hypergamy and evolutionary psychology with a married male co-worker, and he confided in me that he feels like his wife is exploiting him.
/r/MensRights23/05/13 04:36 PM
14

Teach men not to rape = Without teaching, men are default rapists. Only men rape. Men who rape do so because they were not taught not to. Men who don't rape, but were not taught not to, could rape at any time. If rapes are happening, it's because men are not being taught not to. Comparison: "Teach Muslims to not become terrorists." Without teaching, Muslims are default terrorists And so on... Addendum: I would happily agree with something like "Teach people to understand and respect each other's…
/r/MensRights23/05/13 04:19 PM
25

Not surprising, considering that using gay slurs is a favorite Feminist shaming tactic used on people who disagree with them. The gay community should start considering whether Feminists like them or just find them useful.
/r/MensRights23/05/13 03:50 PM
1

This is because exploiting male sexual desire is the world's most profitable profession and women want to be a man's only option for sexual gratification. Therefore, men who find sexual gratification elsewhere are shamed.
/r/MensRights23/05/13 01:13 PM
8

Here is a reprint of a paper by noted academic Dr. Murray Strauss on how Feminists distort DV research http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/how-feminists-corrupt-dv-research/ Here is a presentation by noted academic Dr. Christina Hoff Sommers on how Feminists distort research on intimate partner abuse http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmfCB_IVkOc YOU'RE WELCOME
/r/MensRights23/05/13 12:56 PM
5

Laws involving consent between teenagers are worthy of debate, but the laws that are there need to be applied equally, and we all know if this was a man, people would be calling for him to be hanged.
/r/MensRights23/05/13 03:57 AM
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Translation: "All you genuine rape victims out there in the world are meaningless to me. I shit on your tragedy and piss on your wounds, which are nothing compared to my deeply-held feelz. I am a strong and independent victim woman, there is no criticizing me!!!!"
/r/MensRights23/05/13 03:54 AM
1

Men's Rights is humanistic with a focus on Men's Rights. Many of us, including me, fight for the human rights of everyone but the particular focus here is Men's Rights. I suspect you will get different opinions on the "nature vs nurture" question. Blank Slate is a scientifically-suspect theory that became very popular in Leftist academia but it has been debunked numerous times. There are real, proven differences genetically between the genders. Society has a huge influence as well, and occasiona…
/r/MensRights23/05/13 12:39 AM
3

Laws of consent between two teenagers are a topic worthy of a healthy debate, but it's obvious to me a pussy pass is getting handed out by many observors.
/r/MensRights22/05/13 02:27 AM
17

That's exactly right. Sex workers are free market providers in an economic sector that most women prefer to be artificially controlled to raise the price.
/r/MensRights22/05/13 01:45 AM
20

I've been learning more about the sex worker's rights movement and it is really amazing how abusive Feminists are of them.
/r/MensRights22/05/13 01:00 AM
1

....which Feminism demands and reinforces.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 11:59 PM
3

I know for a fact there are many fair-minded and well-intentioned feminists and it saddens me that they continue to (unwittingly or not) uphold the status quo.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 11:21 PM
2

Why have the nice feminists not undone the decades of damage done by the radicals? Why do the radicals lead the movement, if the nice feminists are against what they stand for? Why don't the nice feminists reform the movement? FIFTEEN YEARS I've been told the radicals don't represent Feminism but Feminism just keeps getting more hateful and corrupt. Can you not see the disparity here?
/r/MensRights21/05/13 10:23 PM
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hundreds of millions of people killed by marxist / socialist revolutions don't lie.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 08:43 PM
4

"White Male Privilege Hurts White Males TOO!!!!!!!"
/r/MensRights21/05/13 08:20 PM
9

The "feminism is not a monolith" useful idiots provide cover for the haters and supremacists.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 08:18 PM
9

Not an excuse. All that means is that she is supporting something she doesn't know anything about.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 08:16 PM
5

That, and evidence one is a marxist, socialist, or fellow traveler.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 08:15 PM
16

Then why does your girlfriend affiliate herself with a supremacist hate movement?
/r/MensRights21/05/13 07:25 PM
31

That's because Feminism is based on "blank slate" theory, a debunked scientific notion that people are entirely socially constructed.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 07:24 PM
12

Nah. Accurate.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 07:22 PM
5

Nice!
/r/MensRights21/05/13 07:21 PM
4

Of course he will. Feminazis are the only people who support him anymore. Well, them and self-hating leftist MRAs.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 07:14 PM
3

Allegedly "nice" feminists have been saying stuff like this article for decades now. Their movement never changes.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 06:24 PM
10

Nah. Not really. I think this is more like a NAWALT. "Nice" Feminists have been saying stuff like this for 20 years. Nothing changes.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:33 PM
4

Yes, radical feminists are simply honest feminists.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:32 PM
5

"Branding" is a term related to marketing. Coca-Cola is a brand of soda pop. Ford is a car brand. Religious feminists are in extreme denial over the hypocrisy, hate, and supremacism inherent in their cult and are now claiming that the only reason why Feminism is criticized is because people have the wrong impression of the "brand."
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:32 PM
9

I agree things are changing but the above article sounds exactly like stuff Feminists were saying 15 - 20 years ago. It's not evidence of any kind of substantive change.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 04:28 PM
11

Meh. She wouldn't even bring it up if not for the "branding problem."
/r/MensRights21/05/13 02:42 PM
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Barack Obama is the most powerful mangina in the world. He puts women first every single time. I would not be surprised if he wears tampons a week a month. If you support him, you're no better. Sorry. Grow up and respect yourself.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 02:33 AM
20

Hugo Schwyzer has admitted to attempted murder of an ex-girlfriend and also to seducing numerous students of his while a college instructor. We should all write to The Atlantic and ask them why such a man is relaying dating advice in their magazine.
/r/MensRights18/05/13 02:41 PM
2

Feminism does NOT address the struggles women face in other countries. They have stood by with their thumbs up their butts while the Obama administration financially and militarily supports Middle Eastern and North African countries that are RAPIDLY regressing women's rights. Feminism cares not. It's not the MRM's job to highlight the plight of women in other countries. If people want to be egalitarians and humanists and highlight those things, I think that's great. I do, and I know other people…
/r/MensRights17/05/13 10:42 PM
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Why do women cheat: Because they are wonderful, magical creatures with emotions like perfect blameless flying unicorns, and if unicorns are not getting emo feelings satisfied by men, then whysoever should we deny magic unicorns? Why do men cheat: Because men are disgusting pigs, everybody knows that! Men: Don't get marred. Ever.
/r/MensRights17/05/13 09:38 PM
3

I don't want to take away anyone's rights, I just want their pedestal taken away.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 09:04 PM
3

I agree, the natural conclusion of feminism (even "moderate" feminism) is that all men have power that must be removed from them.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 05:31 PM
2

I guess I have a more fatalistic outlook. I don't believe we're going to make progress until men stop looking at women through rose-colored glasses. People don't change until the discomfort of changing is less than the pain of staying the same. And as long as men keep assuming that women care for them like men care for women, men are going to keep treating them with much more kindness than they deserve. Which means women will never feel the need to change.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 04:48 PM
3

You say moderate, I say willfully deluded and complicit. ;)
/r/MensRights16/05/13 02:15 PM
10

If they did that, they wouldn't be Feminists
/r/MensRights16/05/13 02:10 PM
7

It is not a "small group of very vocal women." Women do not love or care for men like men love and care for women. Even the sweetest, nicest woman perceives men on a utilitarian level.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 02:09 PM
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I care about women's rights more than Feminists do. Feminism only cares about the rights of white middle class and upper class women who vote for the political Left. They treat conservative women horribly and the policies they push do not help poor and working class women all that much. Also, numerous women of color feel that Feminism does not care about their opinions.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 01:29 PM
5

Women don't want nice guys. They want attractive, dominant guys to commit to them. Men are not actually men to a woman unless she considers him superior to her. Also, if the attractive, dominant guy commits and starts being too nice, she will lose attraction to him.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 01:11 PM
3

The Onion makes fun of EVERYONE. This is not a humor magazine that plays politically correct games with who can and can't be satirized.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 12:09 AM
3

My prediction is that 30% of the former feminists will say "I was never one of those Feminists" and 70% of the former feminists will blame men.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 10:18 PM
3

I have been asking this question of Feminists for 10 years now and not a one of them can give me an answer.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 09:49 PM
3

They will never answer this question definitively, because it would be the death of their religious ideology.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 09:01 PM
0

Feminism has actually strengthened the power of the most powerful men, and has always been funded by their foundations. Since the beginning. Feminism has only really helped white professional women who vote for the political Left. Feminism does not care about conservative women, women of color, or working-class women.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 07:40 PM
5

WHERE ARE THESE REAL FEMINISTS and why have they helped the supremacists do the dirty for 60 years?
/r/MensRights15/05/13 07:37 PM
5

We have heard all these pitiful excuses five zillion times. Feminism has a long history of aggressively pushing for female supremacy, repressing critics, and spreading hate. Feminists who "aren't like that" are either ignorant or complicit. You can support women's rights without being a Feminist.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 07:36 PM
0

Feminism is a vile supremacist movement that only stands for white professional ladies who are politically on the Left.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 07:35 PM
3

Human rights need to be vigorously defended. Both men and women face issues, and we can help each other address them. But to accomplish that, Feminism needs to be dismantled with bulldozers and pushed in the ocean. Feminism is a vile supremacist movement that only stands for white professional ladies who are politically on the Left.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 07:34 PM
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Those who would rather push mythology about rape rather than address the truth about rape are responsible for more victims of rape and victims of false accusations. Their ideology hurts men and women and as far as I am concerned they would rather see people get hurt than take the political ideology out of rape.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 05:15 PM
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Women sexualizing women, evidence exhibit #475,000,000
/r/MensRights15/05/13 01:43 PM
1

The reason why she seems like your "best friend" is because single mothers are often EXTREMELY nice and acommodating to men they see as meal tickets. They know they have less options than other women and they want access to your resources. I have seen this happen several times, and i guarantee you she will not treat you as nice after you are married. A pre-nup will not protect you. The pre-nup goes up in flames the minute the family court says so. They are completely useless. The fact she won't …
/r/MensRights15/05/13 01:05 PM
2

Since 10,000 BC, we've designed a system to oppress women that hurts us too, which includes all the chivalry we provide to women that actually oppresses them even though they want it and shame us into providing it to them.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 02:05 AM
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http://i.imgur.com/THDX1Fk.jpg
/r/MensRights14/05/13 11:49 PM
1

I missed that barbecue. Too busy telling men to not tell men to stop rape.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 10:29 PM
11

"We need Feminism because a man doesn't have to touch a woman to rape her!" (Actual statement from a Feminist)
/r/MensRights14/05/13 08:35 PM
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Feminists want women to be raped so they can make money off of it. That's why they are so resistant to anything resembling common sense in this issue. It's all about money and power to them. And demonizing men, of course.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 06:55 PM
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And Obama-voting MRAs swallow it and smile.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 06:54 PM
2

Social media for many women is basically an orgy of attention whoring.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 06:53 PM
2

Wow that's some next level shit. Kudos. I reserve accusations of being creepy for women overtly hitting on me in social situations.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 05:26 PM
1

Ha! If its not appropriate to neg a certain woman, don't ever compliment her. And if she compliments you, the reaction should be something like "Well of course!" with a wink and a smile. Just yesterday a female co worker was praising me lavishly and twirling her hair like a little girl, and fishing for return compliments, and all I said back was "I don't mess around!"
/r/MensRights14/05/13 01:38 PM
2

Men should not compliment women unless she is performing desired services for him at a high level. (This doesn't necessarily mean sex.) NEVER, EVER give women compliments simply for existing. There is a 25% chance she will regard it as harassment and a 50% chance she will resent you for it. And even when you do compliment, follow it with a neg. Your dialogue with average women should be one part complimentary and four parts maintaining your superiority. Get all those ideas out of your head that …
/r/MensRights14/05/13 01:06 PM
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This is mainstream Feminism, not extreme Feminism.
/r/MensRights13/05/13 01:44 PM
4

GREAT
/r/MensRights13/05/13 01:18 PM
2

I agree, but it would be even more accurate to say that women's ownership of the golden vagina and uterus makes them valuable and desired just for existing, whereas if men want to be valuable and desired, they have to jump through hoops. That is the reality of nature. Males who can't jump through hoops are much, much less likely to mate then those who can, whereas women can just lay on their backs and spread their legs. So, males are motivated to achieve, much more so than women, because weak an…
/r/MensRights13/05/13 01:15 PM
7

Don't get married. Ever.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 03:54 PM
1

Actually, if women became productive rather than being parasites on men and the system it would be GREAT for America's prosperity.
/r/MensRights11/05/13 11:56 AM
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You voted for Obama? Did you cut off your testicles too?
/r/MensRights11/05/13 11:26 AM
2

I would complain to the management and also write it up on online travel sites like expedia and travelocity. Also, Twitter, Facebook, etc. I once had a really bad experience at a nice hotel in the downtown of a large Midwestern city. The clerk at checkout blew me off, but I got my entire stay refunded after I complained on social media.
/r/MensRights11/05/13 11:17 AM
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I liked your piece a lot. Since you wanted feedback i wanted to share. Thanks again.
/r/MensRights10/05/13 11:16 PM
1

Hi, thank you for writing the article. Makes many good points and is much appreciated. For future reference, supremacism and hate is not a "fringe" of Feminism, it is at the center of the movement and has been for a very long time. The Feminists who are genuinely egalitarian are actually the "fringe" and in reality, they tend to get kicked out of the movement when they challenge the haters. Feminism is not going to reform unless we are willing to start holding Feminists responsible for this stuf…
/r/MensRights10/05/13 10:40 PM
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This is meaningless claptrap until Feminists remove the supremacists and the haters from the leadership of their movement. No excuses. You're Strong and Independent so this should be easy right? Cut out the haters or STFU.
/r/MensRights10/05/13 10:07 PM
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I hear you. But I believe that one of the primary things that is holding back progress is the fact that Feminist supremacists gets to hide behind useful idiots providing cover.
/r/MensRights10/05/13 05:59 PM
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Nice article, many good points, but I am beyond sick and tired of the "Not All Feminists Are Like That" shit. The NAFALTS have been criminally negligent in challenging the hate and supremacy within their movement, and I can only conclude they are either ignorant ninnies or turning a blind eye to it on purpose.
/r/MensRights10/05/13 04:24 PM
2

He was also a registered Democrat. I am sick and tired of these toxic sociopathic Democrats!
/r/MensRights10/05/13 02:40 PM
2

Cool. Then Microsoft can white knight and continue to pump out barely mediocre software while other companies hire the best people for the job and make Microsoft more irrelevant. Kudos on the XBOX 360 though. For some reason I suspect the XBOX 360 department does not bend over backwards to fly the feminist flag.
/r/MensRights10/05/13 04:00 AM
0

"Are men the ones lining up to birth the babies of sociopaths?"
/r/MensRights09/05/13 08:10 PM
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This should surprise no one as TYT are Leftists.
/r/MensRights09/05/13 07:26 PM
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Feminists don't care about women unless they are white, middle or upper class, and lean Left politically.
/r/MensRights09/05/13 03:59 PM
0

True. Would be more accurate to say dominant. Will edit.
/r/MensRights09/05/13 02:36 PM
1

Women want a wedding, not a marriage. Unless you are at least three notches above her in sexual market value. Then she will want to stay married, as long as you stay dominant. Don't marry. Let her marry the government, that's all they want anyway.
/r/MensRights09/05/13 01:32 PM
0

Dennis Prager is a traditionalist conservative who I disagree with a lot but he is a very wise man, and he has always been outspoken about the negative aspects of Feminism. Much more perceptive than most conservative thinkers about the way of the world. I have listened to his radio show quite a bit and he's a good guy.
/r/MensRights09/05/13 04:03 AM
13

Women have an in-group bias for each other. Men have a bias to protect women and seek female approval. Women represent the majority of voters and majority of wealth in the United States. Any politician that wants to get elected will at least consider "what women want" if he wants to get elected. Women control society, because they control our emotional landscape. They decide what we can and can't feel. Women had huge influence over society before they even got the right to vote. An example is pr…
/r/MensRights09/05/13 12:10 AM
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It's more expensive to do death penalty because of all the court appeals.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 11:03 PM
3

It's the Onion. They make fun of everyone and everything.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 09:13 PM
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EXCELLENT! I'm not a supporter of the death penalty, but I would certainly give a thumbs-up to life w/o parole.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 09:01 PM
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Ask her why she doesn't believe men are deserving of human rights. Ask her why men desiring equal human rights offends her as a woman.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 08:23 PM
7

I have bent over backwards my entire life to be tolerant and accepting of all people, and fight for their rights, because that's what human beings are supposed to do for each other. And mostly I have gotten a bunch of grief for it. So if anyone expects me to fall over in ravings of joy because a few women suddenly realize the entire world doesn't revolve around their vagina, fuck that.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 07:58 PM
5

Many Feminists are aggressively ignorant to market forces. Want Fashion Brands to stop sexualizing women? Cool. Stop buying their products, and tell them why. Want female musicians and actresses to stop flaunting their sexuality? Cool. Don't buy their songs or buy tickets to their movies. Want more attention paid to women's sports? Cool. Go to the games and support the advertisers on these programs. Women are responsible for the vast majority of consumer spending in the US. Companies want their …
/r/MensRights08/05/13 07:15 PM
4

Men's human rights end where a woman might find herself inconvenienced.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 07:09 PM
10

This isn't "good." This is basically a chorus of women saying they've suddenly realized men aren't subhuman monsters or stoic statues all the time.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 06:56 PM
2

Yes, this is total bullshit.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 03:42 PM
11

"Feminism is about equality for all! Don't expect us to do anything for men!"
/r/MensRights08/05/13 03:41 PM
6

Feminism is the radical notion that women are adults (when convenient) and children (when convenient.)
/r/MensRights08/05/13 03:10 PM
7

True. We have to give the "kill all men" feminists some credit for at least being honest.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 03:08 PM
3

And men who abase themselves for female approval, such as The president of the united states.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 03:05 PM
10

Feminism is a supremacist ideology that seeks power for women. Especially white women who lean Left politically. A Feminist is anyone who calls themselves a Feminist. Yes, gender inequalities exist. But Feminism, while claiming to seek redress of these inequalities, is actually very focused on only alleviating them for women. Men are expected to continue our traditional gender roles of protecting and providing for women.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 02:20 PM
8

One thing that we don't point out often enough, in my opinion, is that the rules of decorum on the internet are different than elsewhere. This is true in the discussion of basically any human pursuit when it's discussed on the internet. I could go to an internet discussion board about yachting and probably find someone stirring shit. I talk about these issues a lot in real life, and 7 times out of 10 people are very impressed with my fair-minded and egalitarian rationale and tell me they learned…
/r/MensRights08/05/13 01:14 PM
20

15 minutes ago the feminist and blue pill view was that "men have no issues." Nobody would be paying attention if we weren't out creating a ruckus. That doesn't mean I approve of all the language and tactics used by MRAs, but I also keep in mind that we're going to be hated no matter what we do. Dr. Warren Farrell, as an example, is kind and accomodating to a fault and he has basically been ignored for decades up until we started causing a ruckus, and now he is an "incestuous rapist" or whatever…
/r/MensRights08/05/13 12:46 PM
2

I think the title, subhead, and beginning of the piece hit hard at men and imply some kind of victimizing of women, but it became more fair by the end.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 03:58 AM
2

It depends. If the person insulted is Republican, anything is acceptable. If the person insulted is Democrat, they are a horrendously-aggrieved victim who we all must give emotional support to.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 12:10 AM
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Yeah, but male rape doesn't count to them. Feminists only mention male on male rape as a deflection tactic or to celebrate male pain.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 11:07 PM
7

A year ago they would be cheering this on. Now they know people are scrutinizing them.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 10:34 PM
2

good one
/r/MensRights07/05/13 10:33 PM
9

Feminists would say that the women have it worse because they are raped.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 10:33 PM
2

Feminism will be funded up until the point the ruling class decides they can make more money letting it fall apart than they can propping it up. It's going to take a long time for this to happen, because Feminism is incredibly beneficial to them.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 10:11 PM
14

It's not that Feminists want to kill men, it's that they would rather men suffer and die than see a woman inconvenienced.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 09:05 PM
7

Governments are redistributing billions of dollars of wealth, mostly generated by men, to insulate women from having to make any compromises in their life goals. And it is claimed this is a "Patriarchy."
/r/MensRights07/05/13 07:04 PM
2

Yes. And since employers use degrees to filter resumes (whether or not the job requires a certain degree) it results in a higher ed arms race among job seekers.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 03:48 PM
1

All fair points, but I think Feminism and the resulting female entitlement is discouraging marriage more than you might think.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 03:46 PM
1

It's going to be hard for us to offer any advice without specifics.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 01:35 AM
-1

I understand that, but the entire White House administration and the Democrats in Congress are advancing female privilege and male disenfranchisement every chance they get. Again, I'm not saying the Right is a panacea. But the Left provides institutionalized Feminism with their money and power, and in return Feminism is a major voting bloc for the Left.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 10:45 PM
11

It's partially cultural, partially biological. Biologically it is related to a woman's instinctive desire to be protected and cared for by a strong man. Women instinctively throw shit tests at men all the time, and if he "fails" them (i.e. appears weak) her lizard brain will start perceiving him as weaker. Maybe she will ignore that primitive feeling in the back of her mind, but many times she will rationalize it as a reason to leave him, take advantage of him, or emotionally abuse him. This is …
/r/MensRights06/05/13 10:41 PM
7

Every woman thinks they want a man who will change for her, and then every woman gets bitter/bored/resentful when he does it.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 10:02 PM
0

Loser
/r/MensRights06/05/13 09:37 PM
1

Yet the Democrat party bends over backwards to finance and empower institutionalized Feminism. (Not saying Right is panacea BTW)
/r/MensRights06/05/13 07:39 PM
2

Many of us find links here and them distribute them on our Facebook and Twitter accounts.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 05:05 PM
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Many of us find links here and them distribute them on our Facebook and Twitter accounts.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 05:04 PM
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We're dealing with widespread cultural denial, deliberately spread by the Feminist movement, that women never do things like this. Rape and violence is portrayed as having a male face. Talking about incidents like this is about popping that myth.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 02:55 PM
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If women don't want controlling men, they should stop lining up to have sex with them.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 02:33 PM
2

Here's a few of many, many examples. Feminist groups lobby against shared parenting bills in state courts that attempt to make child custody for men, successfully defeating it recently in Maryland and Minnesota. Feminists deliberately distorted domestic violence research to eliminate evidence of female abusers. http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/V74-gender-symmetry-with-gramham-Kevan-Method%208-.pdf Historical feminist leadership's calls for genocide of men (Mary Daly, Andrea Dworkin, Robin Morgan) s…
/r/MensRights06/05/13 12:53 PM
2

Show me the "good" feminists challenging this crap and taking their movement in a better direction.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 12:41 PM
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Here's one article in which a noted academic proves feminists deliberately corrupted domestic violence research to hide evidence of female perpetrators http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/how-feminists-corrupt-dv-research/ Here's an entire book from another noted academic on how feminists are deliberately turning the education system against boys http://www.amazon.com/The-War-Against-Boys-Misguided/dp/0684849569 There are many, many, many more pieces of evidence that show the supremacism of the…
/r/MensRights06/05/13 05:09 AM
3

Feminism is a supremacist hate movement. Not all feminists are supremacist haters, but the leadership is and act accordingly.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 05:06 AM
9

Many feminists are not supremacists, but they are ignorant or in willful denial of the hate and supremacism of the movement.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 01:21 AM
9

If they called it "plutocracy" or "oligarchy" I would be ok with it. "Patriarchy" is not much more real than the "Illuminati."
/r/MensRights06/05/13 12:40 AM
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Indeed. Feminism is a sworn enemy of classic liberalism and libertarianism.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 12:05 AM
26

Won't someone PLEASE think of the violent supremacists!
/r/MensRights05/05/13 09:23 PM
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Nope. You're wrong. Power of real sisterhood comes from flying radfem unicorns that fart communist prosperity rainbows.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 09:21 PM
5

indeed
/r/MensRights05/05/13 09:20 PM
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Some may call her a radical feminist. I call her an honest feminist.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 06:42 PM
3

LEAVE THE RELATIONSHIP NOW!!!!! YOU SHOULD HAVE LEFT THIS RELATIONSHIP YEARS AGO!!!! DON'T BE AN IDIOT!!!! DON'T EVER DATE VIOLENT GIRLS WITH MENTAL ISSUES!!
/r/MensRights05/05/13 03:19 AM
8

As the fashion and media industries are dominated by women, and target female demographics, would this be an example of woman-on-woman rape?
/r/MensRights04/05/13 04:47 PM
1

indeed
/r/MensRights03/05/13 10:26 PM
10

The lesson she taught genuine rape victims is "My womanfeelz are more important than your deeply-felt tragedy."
/r/MensRights03/05/13 05:55 PM
2

These people are lower than dirt.
/r/MensRights03/05/13 05:53 PM
9

It's not victimless. It wastes police resources. It makes it harder for genuine victims to be believed. Amanda Marcotte and this Meg character are menstruating on the faces of genuine victims and their families.
/r/MensRights03/05/13 04:26 AM
1

Mine doesn't get like that until it gets really thick. I can shave it off and then let it grow for a couple months and it doesn't itch at all.
/r/MensRights03/05/13 12:44 AM
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Women of color and advocates for working-class women, often identifying as Feminists, still write blogs and articles proclaiming that Feminism doesn't care about them. Few Feminists say anything about the treatment of women in the middle east and north africa. Feminists collaborate with social conservatives to abuse and vilify sex workers around the world. Feminists insult, deride, and hate on conservative women and women who are critical of feminism.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 08:31 PM
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My understanding is that she deleted this article, but in it she said that the reason why men care about false rape accusations is because they plan to rape women and want to know how to get away with it.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 08:14 PM
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Amanda Marcotte is responsible for getting more people raped. From "rape culture" mythology, to portraying safety tips as victim-blaming, she is responsible for spreading disinformation that will lead to sexual assault.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 08:05 PM
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Feminism only "likes" white middle class and upper class women who lean left politically. They ignore and are often openly contemptuous of women not in this category.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 07:53 PM
6

On what planet do you live on where they re-work laws in favor of men?
/r/MensRights02/05/13 06:57 PM
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In Japan, which is dealing with 40% of men under 35 eschewing marriage and fatherhood, they are suggesting a "bachelor tax" levied against single men only. This same thing happened in Ancient Rome for a time and I would not put it past them trying it at some point in the US.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 06:03 PM
2

indeed
/r/MensRights02/05/13 05:37 PM
15

Dr. Christina Hoff-Sommers and Dr. Warren Farrell would be two examples of Feminists who pushed for reform and were kicked out of the movement.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 04:43 PM
9

Nice, but it really doesn't matter because the status quo is Feminist.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 04:42 PM
4

Yeah it is not happening nearly as fast as I would like. Yes, several societal forces including feminists and conservatives are going to increase their efforts to strongarm men into marriage.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 04:36 PM
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Well, I wish you luck, but they will probably marginalize you and kick you out of the movement.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 02:56 PM
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Suggestion: You can support women's rights without associating with Feminism. Feminism has been run by douchebags from the beginning, even in the first wave. It's a hateful supremacist movement, and "good" feminists should probably abandon it.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 02:34 PM
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Thanks. Don't feel that you have to get angry and agitated on our behalf. You can make a HUGE difference just by talking to other people about your perspective. When you're feeling up to it, it would really be helpful if you start discussing it with MEN especially. Men stuck in the man-hating mainstream thought often won't listen to other men trying to enlighten them, but they will listen to other women because they are programmed to crave female approval. Sad but true.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 01:36 PM
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I hear you, but I also think it implies that female behavior is driven by inability to control ladyparts and hormones.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 01:42 AM
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I think conservative female supremacists can be helpful to men's rights in some ways but we mustn't forget they want men to be their servants as much as leftist female supremacists do.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 12:18 AM
0

Tell him to press charges first, before she falsely accuses.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 11:49 PM
3

Yes. This. Press charges first, before she falsely accuses.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 11:49 PM
11

They are degrading women. It's a deeply misogynist thing to say. I had a Feminist Woman's Studies Major girlfriend who blamed shit on her period all the time, and eventually I told her that her attitude was similar to tribes that temporarily exiled menstruating women from the community and religions that forbid husbands to touch menstruating wives. She got very, very angry.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 11:48 PM
1

Women are degrading other women when they blame depraved behavior on PMS.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 11:45 PM
1

I think that's the point she's implicitly making.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 08:20 PM
1

I don't think most men have the ability to watch women go into the gutter without rescuing them.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 04:28 PM
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It is healthy to keep questioning yourself, because that is how you can evolve your understanding.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 02:15 PM
1

This article sings with Red Pill memes. Townhall is a MAJOR mainstream conservative blog. NICE!
/r/MensRights01/05/13 03:57 AM
2

I would love this to happen but men are too altruistic to ever do this.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 01:22 AM
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A couple years ago I used to entertain myself occasionally by debating "anarcho-feminists." Their proposed alternatives always came down to some kind of central authority that would distribute resources, and prevent "Patriarchy" and "hierarchy" from bespoiling the perfectly equal anarcho-feminist collective. They were unable to explain how this central authority was not just another coercive State mechanism. LOL good times.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 01:21 AM
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Because Feminism has asserted for several decades now they are for everyone's rights, while consistently failing to live up to that. (A minority will say they are only for women & girls which is at least more honest.)
/r/MensRights30/04/13 11:21 PM
2

I had some idea of what Poes Law meant but thats the first time I saw an official explanation. Thanks!
/r/MensRights30/04/13 10:52 PM
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And 15 minutes ago they were saying men were all infinitely privileged because of said Patriarchy. What will it be tomorrow? The fault of genetically-engineered lizard people from Nibiru?
/r/MensRights30/04/13 10:46 PM
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I acknowledge that sexual objectification is a problem, but our society is blind to how women objectify men and also blind to how women objectify other women.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 07:45 PM
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No, I'm making the point that they are giant hypocrites and will attack women they perceive as a threat to their agenda.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 07:26 PM
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Well I believe that even hate speech should be protected free speech. I want the crazy haters to say what they want to say, because then I can shine a light on them and go "look at these assholes, their ideas most likely suck, here's why mine our better." The push to prosecute "hate speech" which has been very successful in Canada and Europe, and favored by Leftists and Feminists in the US, is a tactic to repress speech critical of Leftism. The Left used to support civil liberties, but are now f…
/r/MensRights30/04/13 06:59 PM
1

True. But Feminists attacked other women who accused Bill Clinton of rape.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 04:12 PM
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If people want to say the MRM demonstrates strong language and a lot of people who just seem to want to vent, I don't disagree. But I can say the same thing about Feminism PLUS the decades of documented evidence of Feminist supremacism, propaganda, and lobbying against men, boys, and women that Feminism doesn't care about.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 03:52 PM
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I don't want any woman to be forced to give up sex, but women gleefully celebrate and lobby for the privilege of looting men. So what does that say about women?
/r/MensRights30/04/13 03:05 PM
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If the government forced women to give men sex like the government forces men to give women money, you may have a point.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 12:45 PM
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Interesting way to put it, but what I would say is that the Feminist movement only really supports the rights and opinions of white middle class and upper class women who lean to the political Left.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 03:50 AM
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Then they are either complicit in the supremacy, or apathetic to it.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 03:48 AM
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I am an enthusiastic supporter of women's AND men's rights. In fact, I would bet money that I am MORE open to women's rights than many feminists. The Feminist movement only supports the rights and opinions of white middle class and upper class women who adhere to a Left-leaning political ideology. They ignore many of the plights of most poor and working class women. They attack and vilify conservative women. They don't give a damn about the rights of men and boys. They favor the privileges of ad…
/r/MensRights30/04/13 03:47 AM
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I was raped by a woman, however it was many years ago and I don't feel traumatized by it anymore (other than the injustice) so that board doesn't seem the place to put it. However, I've never relayed the story to a feminist-run space (except for a Feminist blog article on male rape victims, who didn't even post my comment. Unsurprising.)
/r/MensRights30/04/13 03:43 AM
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Really? Let me know what you think of this: All white people are potential victims of black people. Not all black people are violent (or potentially violent which i think is the same thing). I can understad a White being afraid in any given situation because there are Blacks out there waiting for opportunities. I don't think this hurts black people's right to be treated fairly. If a white person feels scared and wants to jog away, go for it. If the black behind the white felt offended and awkwar…
/r/MensRights30/04/13 02:22 AM
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Feminism & the corporate police state, sitting in a tree, k-i-s-s-i-n-g...
/r/MensRights29/04/13 10:40 PM
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All people are potential victims of Black crack addicts, so according to your logic, we should perceive all Blacks as a threat for crack-inspired violence. "Why can't Blacks hold a rally against crackheads mugging people? Blacks shouldn't be offended..." Bigot.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 08:56 PM
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"Down with the Patriarchy! Up with the Police State!" -Feminism
/r/MensRights29/04/13 07:38 PM
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Well, many women don't behave this way, but you'll never find out her attitude until you actually open up. So I can't blame men who feel they must hold fast to stoicism around women they are attracted to.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 05:44 PM
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Honestly, it comes down to 1. Human imperfection. 2. Women are taught to disrespect and manipulate men in our society. 3. Women aren't held accountable for their behavior. When assholes can get away with being assholes, they are more likely to do it. It's not a "woman" thing necessarily.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 05:43 PM
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First, I'd like to say that this is misogyny: "I can only speak from a woman's perspective on the gender discrimination I face, and I feel that this gives me an incomplete view of the whole picture" Basically what you are saying is that women are incomplete human beings incapable of empathy. Maybe you were incapable of empathy, but that doesn't give you the right to project it onto your whole gender. Secondly, there are many reasonable feminists that might be open to these issues. But feminism a…
/r/MensRights29/04/13 11:43 AM
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Yes, it's a very common experience among men and it is probably the #1 reason why I went MGTOW. It is very stressful for me to be strong & stoic all the time. My last steady girlfriend, who was also a fairly radical feminist, begged me for months to open up to her emotionally, and after I did she told me to stop because it made her lose sexual interest in me. And then she needled me about the vulnerabilities I revealed every time she was in a pissy mood. Part of the reason why I call it a shit t…
/r/MensRights29/04/13 05:36 AM
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I consider it a shit test.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 03:34 AM
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Sure. But you only find out after you've already opened up. A woman can tell you to open up emotionally until she is blue in the face, and then reject you the minute you actually do it. Its happened to me several times.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 01:54 AM
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Men should do what they feel they need to do to be healthy on an emotional level, regardless of whether women are attracted to it. But men should not open up to their lovers emotionally unless they are willing to see her lose sexual attraction.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 01:31 AM
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Men are objectified for their utility, their wealth, their social status, and their physical characteristics, especially how tall they are. Most women are unapologetically biased against men of below average height.
/r/MensRights28/04/13 09:24 PM
4

So, the 100,000th angry Feminist website online?
/r/MensRights28/04/13 04:10 AM
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"I have to invent reasons to menstruate on men's rights with my mangina or my girlfriend will stop fucking me."
/r/MensRights28/04/13 12:59 AM
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Yes
/r/MensRights27/04/13 01:53 PM
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"That's why I signed Obamacare into law - because you should have control over your own bodies, as long as a multitrillion dollar all-powerful government bureaucracy keeps an eye on it."
/r/MensRights27/04/13 01:39 AM
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Awesome. I want liberation from having to carry their weak lazy commie asses with my physical strength and productivity.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 06:11 PM
1

"FeministsLoveRapeCulture"
/r/MensRights26/04/13 05:11 PM
1

I specifically avoid Tumblr because I know I'm just going to get fruitlessly angry.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 03:06 PM
3

I chose to pursue a career in a creative profession rather than something in finance, science, or tech. And I also am currently choosing to work in a smaller market where I get paid less than comparable roles in large cities. Wage Gap!
/r/MensRights26/04/13 03:04 PM
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As Feminism is a supremacist ideology, women are regarded as the unilateral deciders of sex. Only she consents, which can be withdrawn retroactively, and she can obtain through force or trickery what she desires.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 02:57 PM
0

What gave you the idea feminism is about freedom? It is a fairly rigid totalitarian ideology that is enthusiastically working with the most power-hungry parts of governement to control people.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 04:42 AM
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Feminism lobbies against shared parenting bills in state legislatures in the U.S. Shared parenting bills would give fathers a chance at a fairer child custody situation upon divorce. Feminism deliberately exclude male rape and domestic violence victims from recognition in government policy: Domestic violence: http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/how-feminists-corrupt-dv-research/ Rape: http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/male-disposability-and-mary-p-koss/ Consult the works of Dr. Christina Hof…
/r/MensRights26/04/13 01:46 AM
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If the Patriarchy is about men helping themselves and other men, why then are men statistically suffering in far greater numbers than women, from dozens of social maladies? Why does Feminism aggressively lobby for many of the laws and policies that are documented to disadvantage men? Why does Feminism vilify, threaten, and harass any feminist, egalitarian, or MRA who attempts to shed light on men's issues? Ask them to explain the dozens of well-accepted parts of feminist theory that demonize mal…
/r/MensRights26/04/13 12:54 AM
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When you realize Feminism is a supremacist movement wearing the mask of an equality movement, it becomes easy to figure out.
/r/MensRights25/04/13 11:35 PM
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Over 15 years ago, I was an egalitarian feminist who was very friendly with feminist orgs on my campus (a large state university in the Midwest.) One of my professors, about the most outspoken Feminist professor on campus, found me to be "insightful" on gender issues and we talked about it frequently. I had many wonderful discussions with her, and others, how Feminism was hurting men and some women, and gave my reasons for believing this. I was assured, in no uncertain terms, that Feminists acro…
/r/MensRights25/04/13 09:35 PM
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But Feminism aggressively seeks to increase the demands on men, increase female privilege, and bullies anyone who disagrees. Many feminists are good-natured but in deep denial. Feminism is a hateful supremacist movement. If Feminists don't like being called hateful supremacists, then they can reform their movement.
/r/MensRights25/04/13 08:55 PM
1

Lena Dunham confuses me. Sometimes she says good things, and then she literally whores herself out for Obama. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6G3nwhPuR4
/r/MensRights25/04/13 04:01 PM
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I am among the first to call Feminists on their aggressive efforts to criminalize male sexuality, but this is not an example of that. Based on the details, this is rape.
/r/MensRights25/04/13 01:18 PM
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I am among the first to call Feminists on their aggressive efforts to criminalize male sexuality, but this is not an example of that. Based on the details, this is rape.
/r/MensRights25/04/13 12:04 PM
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She's right, but then she can't turn around and claim feminism = equality.
/r/MensRights24/04/13 07:54 PM
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I am among the first to call Feminists on their aggressive efforts to criminalize male sexuality, but this is not an example of that. Based on the details, this is rape.
/r/MensRights24/04/13 06:37 PM
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I agree, and this is already happening on many levels. Just not as fast or as targeted as I would like.
/r/MensRights24/04/13 03:52 PM
1

Total bullshit. I have read several blogs and websites about "men can stop rape" and in no way it is ever acknowledged there even exists other kinds of rape other than men doing it. It is portrayed as a male problem that men have to solve. So again, I propose that since you favor this kind of dialogue, you should go to the inner city and teach black people to stop smoking crack. I believe in you!
/r/MensRights24/04/13 03:43 AM
1

Agreed. We're going to be vilified no matter what we do, so it's our job to keep up the pressure on them, get them to react, and draw attention to our material. Some people will start reading it and realize we have a point.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 09:25 PM
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I like it
/r/MensRights23/04/13 09:22 PM
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If only we could teach Muslims to stop blowing up people, terrorism would stop. And if only we could teach Mexicans to stop entering our country illegally. And it would be really great if we could teach gay men to stop spreading HIV. Furthermore, we can teach female schoolteachers to stop seducing their students. A solution is at hand! We will solve all the world's problems by illogically demonizing one demographic. This is going to be so awesome.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 09:12 PM
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Self-described feminist hates the concept of men's rights. Shocker!
/r/MensRights23/04/13 03:08 PM
2

yes
/r/MensRights23/04/13 04:26 AM
1

So it's better that millions upon millions of men bend over backwards to be a "nice guy" and repel women?
/r/MensRights23/04/13 04:26 AM
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Post a refutation right next to it. I would also attend with a video camera and some polite questions.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 04:18 AM
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Go to the EEOC. They get an increasing number of complaints for men, and they will take it seriously.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 03:20 AM
2

Why? Men's value as a spouse goes up over time, women's goes down. I know that's not what they taught on Sex and the City but it is true.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 08:14 PM
0

If you don't go to the cops, you're partially responsible for anything this guy does in the future.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 07:49 PM
3

This is your response: "I believe women are strong and independent. If a woman cannot handle being treated equally like a male politician would, she should go into another line of work."
/r/MensRights22/04/13 07:20 PM
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I have criticisms but she is not an idiot. This is practical advice she is giving, and Feminism has ruined the lives of millions of women by making them averse to this.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 07:05 PM
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"You're not my fucking dad!" "Oh junior,just because I can beat you on the XBOX, there's really no reason to speak to me that way. Your mother stuck my penis in her butt last night."
/r/MensRights22/04/13 04:55 PM
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Dude, you're asking a modern woman to think about something other than herself when it comes to romance.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 04:53 PM
2

I hear you, but this is a message that women need to process. I've pointed out my criticisms elsewhere in the thread.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 04:25 PM
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There is a tremendous amount of pressure being put on modern men to settle for really shitty women. Often by our own parents and relatives.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 04:24 PM
1

Yes, and men and women will both be happier once we acknowledge that as a culture.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 04:22 PM
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Yeah I know. But like I said the women in their mid-30's and older who do hit on me are high quality. One woman is beautiful and very funny, but I work with her so that is off the list unfortunately. Another woman, who is 43, wealthy, and decent-looking basically told me she would "take care of" me if we were in a relationship. But she has a teenage son and I am just not going there. Too weird.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 03:12 PM
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Really? I am that age, successful and good looking, and women my age generally still look right past me. Younger women seem WAY more interested in me to be honest. I get hit on about once every two months by a woman my own age. Though I do notice the quality of the women who do hit on me is going up.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 03:01 PM
3

Discussing politically incorrect truths about male-female relations is an important part of this subreddit
/r/MensRights22/04/13 02:57 PM
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I think this lady is right for the most part but there are two misconceptions on her part which are glaring: The assumption that these women want to mate in the hopes of marrying a smart man. Many women do not want smart men until they are ready to settle, and even then, they find them boring. What they are looking for are socially dominant men. I get the feeling that Susan is projecting her value system onto these girls, and doesn't realize how many of them would probably jump at the chance for…
/r/MensRights22/04/13 01:43 PM
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"Bullying:" Men informing a cultural center of the checkered past of a potential business partner. "Not Bullying:" Women being enthusiastically genocidal female supremacists.
/r/MensRights20/04/13 08:16 PM
5

That is not how Feminists act when bad articles on Jezebel are brought up. I've seen this happen several times. They do not say: "Some stuff is crap, some stuff is good." They say "JEZEBEL is NOT a Feminist website." "I am a feminist, and I find them OFFENSIVE." "Jezebel doesn't represent TRUE FEMINISTS."
/r/MensRights19/04/13 09:47 PM
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I agree completely. To make it short: Nobody on that list had or deserved an expectation of privacy when they did what they did. Everything on there is backed up with facts and evidence. It's journalism. If anything, it is treating some very irresponsible, cruel, hateful, and even criminal women with FAR more respect than the average everyday man is treated by Feminists and other misandrists.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 08:58 PM
9

So I don't know about you guys, but according to this guide my girlfriends and I have totally raped the shit out of each other about 300 times.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 08:18 PM
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Of course. I've had these ninnies hold up a certain Feminist as "good" then when I point out some horrible shit they did, they said "not a True Feminist."
/r/MensRights19/04/13 05:20 PM
2

We will convince men to reject Feminism and fight for equality by appealing to their sense of justice. We will convince women to reject Feminism and fight for equality by making Feminism uncool.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 04:02 PM
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Don't worry, you guys, we are assured by countless Feminists that Jezebel doesn't represent their views, and isn't even a Feminist site. Except when Jezebel claims that Feminism is fighting for men's rights, in which case every single Feminist on earth says we should fall over in paroxyisms of gratitude and go about our lives knowing we are in the loving care of the benevolent feminist goddesses at Jezebel.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 12:57 PM
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Yeah this is exactly the way I see it too. The Good Feminists can leave the movement (which wouldn't stop them from fighting for anyone's rights) or they can reform the movement (thus giving them less "branding" problems.)
/r/MensRights19/04/13 04:19 AM
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Enthusiastically fostering hatred against 1/2 the human race = OK! Aggressively lobbying for laws, policies, and social spending that favor women and exclude men = OK! Aggressively lobbying against grassroots activism for equality = OK! Viciously attacking women who don't call themselves feminists = OK! Repressing mountains of evidence in the fields of domestic violence and sexual violence to further your hateful agenda = OK! Destroying marriage and fatherhood in Western societies = OK! Yup...th…
/r/MensRights19/04/13 03:55 AM
3

False equivalency. Decades of remarkable activism does not = one hissyfit published in the newspaper.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 02:10 AM
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I disagree, because she is a lawyer who knew the ramifications of the laws she was putting in place.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 02:08 AM
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Nice to see - Lots of positive comments from (presumably) women.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 11:46 PM
10

Check out home skillet Forrest Taylor in the comments. His righteous anger burns with the light of a thousand faps to pictures of Ellen Page.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 10:39 PM
5

75% chance this is an attempt to harass members of this subreddit.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 07:44 PM
8

As suggested by others, you should reach out to A Voice For Men.com. No offense, but people opposed to the idea that men have rights have used tactics like this in the past to harass us.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 07:37 PM
9

End goal of the Feminist Police State.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 07:55 PM
8

Actually, it's more like "They have VAGINAS! They're not responsible for their actions! Protect them!"
/r/MensRights17/04/13 02:37 PM
1

That is utterly illogical. CNN.COM lists people's names, and reports what they did. Register Her does the same thing. And anyway, why should we care what you say if you can't spend five minutes looking at a website?
/r/MensRights17/04/13 02:33 PM
4

If I said or did nasty things in a public forum, I deserve to be called out on it. If I'm not doing nasty things, but I still get "registered" by some Feminists, then I'll let people decide if I am deserving of criticism for what I said or did. That's what being an adult is all about. If Feminist hatemongers don't want to get called out as hatemongers, then they can mature as individuals and reform their movement, or they can keep their mouths shut. I don't understand why this is a difficult con…
/r/MensRights17/04/13 02:05 PM
9

Total false equivalency between Register Her and Lulu. People on Register Her did newsworthy actions in a public forum, and we're not hiding their profile behind an app wall. We're going to get hated and slandered no matter what we do. I don't know how long you've been active on men's issues, so this just may be an honest misunderstanding on your part. You may want to believe that the Feminist movement is not a violent group of hateful supremacists. You may actually believe that Feminists are ju…
/r/MensRights17/04/13 12:55 PM
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How dare A Voice For Men report on things people said and did in public! Why, just yesterday I was looking at another website called CNN.COM where they reported on a bunch of other stuff that people said and did in public! WTF is this world coming to!?!?!?!?!
/r/MensRights17/04/13 11:34 AM
5

"WHY OH WHY DO THESE EVIL MEN MAKE US SPEND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON BEAUTY TREATMENTS WE DON'T EVEN WANT?!?!?!??!" -The plight of modern women. HAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 04:15 AM
6

You're responding logically to someone who is insane enough to think that men control the fashion and beauty industries.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 04:13 AM
2

MEN run the fashion and beauty industries? BWAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAahahahhahaah....sigh.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 04:12 AM
5

Good point. I'm sure many women would love to have legally-sanctioned marriages where she can get her jollies from one man while using the other as a wallet and emotional tampon.
/r/MensRights16/04/13 11:11 PM
21

As evidenced by the five trillion articles and blogs of women crying "no good men left"
/r/MensRights16/04/13 08:47 PM
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Share alpha hubby with several other women = Feminist Victory!
/r/MensRights16/04/13 08:37 PM
2

Unrealistic standards set by the fashion & beauty industries are an obvious case of female-dominated industries hurting women, yet that is never acknowledged and men actually get blamed more often then not. Companies make the products and the advertisements that make them money, and if women don't like the unrealistic beauty standards, then they can stop buying the products that promote them. Men are not the ones spending umpteen billions of dollars on beauty treatments and fashions.
/r/MensRights16/04/13 07:36 PM
1

A mini case study in Feminist hate speech: "Men Can Stop Rape" http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1byx9k/a_mini_case_study_in_feminist_hate_speech_men_can/
/r/MensRights15/04/13 12:36 AM
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Feminism has done a very good job of tricking everyone into thinking they are (or were at one time) a positive movement. And I don't deny that some things were good. But on balance, Feminism has wrought tremendous damage on society, especially men, boys, and poor/working class families.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 11:44 PM
2

I agree with you. And believe me, I do not relish the current state of affairs. I wish men could count on women to actually desire and work for equality. But the sad fact is, the vast majority of them don't.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 11:06 PM
8

If you don't want to sue, write about your experience on YELP. It will hurt their business.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 09:36 PM
4

It's a good phrase, because it reminds us that it's not just Feminists we are fighting. Even though Feminists are also female supremacists.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 09:12 PM
3

Nothing in what I said = conan the barbarian. Traditional marriage balanced the woman's need/desire for provision and security with the man's desire for a spouse with whom he can bear and raise children. There was privileges and expectations placed on both sexes. Modern marriage gives women all the provision and security she got in traditionalism while removing all obligations from her to be a loyal and faithful spouse. Men, on the other hand, are still expected to meet these obligations. There …
/r/MensRights14/04/13 09:11 PM
3

Good point.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 07:37 PM
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"What's wrong with having a partnership of equals, whose different strengths and weaknesses are complemented by each other's?" Because we are still biologically and culturally programmed with this "protect the wimmins, men are disposable" mindset. The vast majority of women are always going to expect to be provided for and cared for by whoever she is sleeping with. Therefore, men who choose to mate and marry need to find a woman who is going to let him be the leader, since she will almost for su…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 06:48 PM
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It's journalism, documenting events that happened in public that deserve to be documented. If I walked around sreaming bigoted things, or writing them in a blog / newspaper, I would not go cry about it if it showed up online. People have to take responsibility for their actions, and in this culture where women can literally kill men and get by with it scott-free, and no one gives a shit, I'm not going to worry about this.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 10:53 PM
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Feminist policies and activism have utterly ruined lower class and working class communities. It turns out that when a woman isn't born with wealthy white woman privilege, she may actually need stable fathers, stable communities, and responsible boyfriends / husbands to move up in the world. Feminism cares not. They incentivize fatherlessness, demonize manhood and boyhood, and then offer welfare dependency as salvation. And in return, they get votes. But the suffering of these communities increa…
/r/MensRights11/04/13 07:09 PM
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The Left is the financial and bureaucratic power behind Feminism, and in return Feminism is a very effective voting bloc for the Left. Neither the Left nor the Right give a shit about men's issues, and both have a tendency to put women first.
/r/MensRights11/04/13 04:20 PM
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Focus on the Family is a den of churchy female supremacists. The excellent manosphere blogger Dalrock has critiqued them numerous times.
/r/MensRights11/04/13 02:02 PM
2

Good stuff.
/r/MensRights11/04/13 02:05 AM
2

Patriarchy is whatever a woman says, at the time that she says it, and if the definition is illogical or self-contradictory it's you're fault because you're a misogynist. If two different women say it is two different things, they are both right and you're not allowed to point out the discrepancy.
/r/MensRights11/04/13 01:55 AM
2

"Woman's Ways Of Knowing" > Laws Of Math & Science
/r/MensRights11/04/13 12:13 AM
5

Yes, men are openly being discriminated against for positions. There was an article in the March issue of the Harvard Business Review on this.
/r/MensRights10/04/13 05:32 PM
3

As much as it pains me to say it, this is progress. Not too long ago, the prevailing narrative was that men have no issues. Of course, this emerging narrative is yet more fact-free femspeak that we must counter.
/r/MensRights10/04/13 04:56 PM
12

"You guys can't do it, because you haven't been making shit up for 50 years."
/r/MensRights10/04/13 02:10 PM
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NO FUCKING WAY!!! Go Tom!
/r/MensRights10/04/13 03:16 AM
0

Yeah I am not advocating the religion either. I don't have to believe in her sky-god to appreciate her opinion.
/r/MensRights10/04/13 02:49 AM
3

The MRM has more conservative and libertarian leaders because the movement originally developed in many cases as a reaction to Feminism's denigration of traditional masculinity, the traditional family, and fathers. Also, because we draw the connection of Feminism to the rapidly growing police state, anti-constitutional powers, and silencing of free speech. The Left is the money and power behind institutionalized Feminism, and in return Feminism serves as a very effective voting block for them. B…
/r/MensRights10/04/13 01:59 AM
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No, the fundamental flaw of today's feminism is that it is a supremacist hate movement.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 11:30 PM
9

As a man, I can't stand eating at restaurants hinged on waitress sex appeal. Not because I'm offended, but because the food is usually super-shitty and the overall experience doesn't do anything for me.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 10:17 PM
0

Feminists do occasionally protest Hooters.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 10:15 PM
2

Oh that's funny. I didn't know he said that.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 09:13 PM
3

Lots of money and willing to spend it on them.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 08:43 PM
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Better yet, she gives men credit for their appreciation of respectful portrayals of "real" women in porn.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 08:36 PM
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What do you expect? He's a self-declared socialist. Feminism and socialism is two peas in a pod.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 08:16 PM
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Well, the reality is that they only want attractive men checking them out when they are hot, and they only miss attractive men checking them out when they are old. Lower-status males can go die in a fire as far as they are concerned.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 07:38 PM
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In the words of an older female acquaintance on Facebook: "I used to get angry when guys checked me out, but now that they've stopped, I'm sad."
/r/MensRights09/04/13 02:35 PM
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Actually, I have worked on HIV awareness campaigns and it is pretty obvious that science, reason, and statistics have been bent into a salted pretzel by many anti-HIV campaigns. The chances of heterosexual hiv transmission are far overstated by most public awareness campaigns, and the fact that vast, vast majority of sexually-transmitted hiv cases are through male-on-male sex is glossed over. It's to keep gay men from being "ashamed." Which doesn't necessarily bother me, as I want everyone to pr…
/r/MensRights09/04/13 02:22 PM
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So what she's saying is that her generation is the first generation of women in the history of the world who are too delusional and arrogant to accept that older women don't get attention for their looks. She's had fifty-some years to develop a personality, skills, and inner strength that often shine in older women. Too bad for her that she didn't.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 02:12 PM
2

"Muslims can stop blowing up city buses." It's marketing!
/r/MensRights09/04/13 01:58 PM
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Let me know how you would react to this... "View Gays Positively" "We believe all gays have the capacity and desire to play a positive role in creating communities free from AIDS. As part of this belief, we assert that it is essential to approach gays as potential allies rather than only as potential AIDS carriers. Further, in order for gays to have empathy for themselves and straight people, we all must embrace and be comfortable with the full range of emotion in gays that is authentically huma…
/r/MensRights09/04/13 01:51 PM
1

Feminism is a hate cult.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 01:07 PM
2

Yeah I have a theory that Feminists fantasize about living under some form of Sharia
/r/MensRights09/04/13 01:06 PM
1

Indeed
/r/MensRights09/04/13 01:05 PM
3

If we are supposed to call out "people who possess sexist attitudes" then why isn't the phrase "People can stop sexist attitudes." ???
/r/MensRights09/04/13 01:05 PM
5

good point
/r/MensRights09/04/13 01:02 PM
6

I wouldn't have any problem with the slogan "Rapists can stop rape."
/r/MensRights09/04/13 12:49 PM
5

Excellent point.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 04:49 AM
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People like that aren't worth arguing with, they're too far gone. Recently I was told by three feminists that equality is "stupid" and women should dominate men because women are biologically superior. There's nothing to say to people like that, except for F U bigot. ;)
/r/MensRights09/04/13 02:16 AM
6

Feminism is a supremacist movement.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 02:14 AM
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"Team Feminism" unity isn't about logic, evidence, and fairness, its about emotion and faith
/r/MensRights09/04/13 12:11 AM
6

Yeah I've been called a homosexual pejorative several times by Feminists over the years.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 09:03 PM
2

This is so stupid. I would agree that most men are tone-deaf and most women are somewhat cowardly in their methods of approach. But what is so hard about a woman saying to a man "I'd like to get to know you better." That is a far cry from "Do me, big boy" and it gets the point across. No crotch-grabbing necessary.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 06:23 PM
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I think lots of women know better than to indulge that particular drive. Both men and women have sexual desires which can lead us astray. I wouldn't heap scorn on a man's untoward desires as long as he doesn't act on them, so I'll give women the same latitude. But I would agree that many women are taking advantage of the lack of acountability feminism & chivalry give them.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 05:09 PM
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Of course we know that some (not all) women want bad boys based on fantasy as well as biological factors and desire for proxy violence, but that is more red pill then most people are going to accept anyway.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 04:43 PM
2

This is all good points. We do have the "second in command" in our departments vet resumes, before they go to the top guys and ladies. I can understand how this may not work for larger companies.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 04:25 PM
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Well in the words of my feminist ex-girlfriend "I'm a woman, you're a man, and when I want to have sex you're supposed to have sex with me!"
/r/MensRights08/04/13 04:21 PM
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This, to me, is a pretty good op-ed on how Feminism enforces traditional male gender roles if you're curious. http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/an-open-letter-to-feminists/
/r/MensRights08/04/13 02:22 PM
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I appreciate your good attitude, and I believe that there are productive opportunities for collaboration between decent feminists / egalitarians / mras / humanists etc. However I don't think this collaboration will work under the aegis of feminism.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 02:20 PM
3

Yes indeed! And she'll get it.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 02:15 PM
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I agree. There are a lot of businesses already who don't even have an official HR person. The company I work for has about 100 people in four different states and no HR anywhere. There is a smart young guy who manages our insurance, benefits, and employee files, but he doesn't have anything to do with hiring.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 02:07 PM
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This again? Many feminists are good-natured and care about equality. Feminism, as a movement, teaches hate and aggressively advocates against equality in several different areas of law and culture. Plus, it treats conservative women and female sex workers horribly, and doesn't seem to care much about working-class minorities. Feminism infantilizes women and injects traditional male gender roles/chivalry with steroids. We are well aware "not all feminists are like that." The leadership of your mo…
/r/MensRights08/04/13 03:52 AM
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Feminism has put a great deal of effort into enforcing traditional gender roles for straight men and keeping the "woman first" mentality of chivalry alive.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 02:34 AM
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Because they get off on knowing that male infants suffer.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 02:12 AM
1

I think they just use it to get their hate jollies out, further demonize male sexuality, and foment more one-sided anti-male narrative in the media.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 12:25 AM
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Yes, much feminist propaganda points to class discrimination and calls it gender discrimination.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 12:22 AM
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"Don't question our 'women's ways of knowing' !!!!!!"
/r/MensRights07/04/13 10:03 PM
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Glad you brought that up. Black people commit a disproportionate amount of violent crime in the united states. Will Feminism declare that "black people can stop violent crime" ??? If not, why not?
/r/MensRights07/04/13 09:28 PM
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Right. It's not that women don't experience challenges. They do. But the current cultural zeitgeist is so one-sided it's obscene. I am optimistic that men and women can help each other make things better, but I am convinced that Feminism is counterproductive to this goal.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 09:07 PM
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Nope, this is representative of the perspective of the feminist movement.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 08:08 PM
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Just like all those schoolboys who get raped by their empowered and liberated schoolteachers.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 08:06 PM
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Yeah any Feminist who tries to claim this "doesn't represent feminism" is bullshitting.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 08:05 PM
3

In addition, many of the reactionary Islamic countries and sects treat men as bad, or worse. That fact gets glossed over a lot.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 08:04 PM
4

I agree completely. I'm very optimistic that people are becoming more enlightened.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 08:03 PM
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Many feminists do not hate men and genuinely desire equality, but the feminist movement aggressively resists equality and genuinely hates men. That being said, even if Feminism went away tomorrow we'd still have to deal with a lot of negative issues in society. I think the "middle ground" is less about finding a label and more about really doing some research and critical thinking on the issues, and finding it in your heart to speak up. I don't consider myself an MRA. I have a particular interes…
/r/MensRights07/04/13 07:24 PM
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Fixed
/r/MensRights07/04/13 07:14 PM
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I appreciate the sentiment, but you are describing Feminism. The movement is based on hate, hypocrisy, and female privilege.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 07:02 PM
4

That's a fair criticism. But it doesn't make Feminist attacks on Islam and Muslim women any less hypocritical.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 06:51 PM
2

Check out the "other discussion" of this article on r/Feminism. Feminists are defending FEMEN.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 06:02 PM
1

Oh well there you go, now I'm hungry for cherries. ;)
/r/MensRights07/04/13 05:52 PM
2

Indeed.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 05:51 PM
3

I am very pessimistic that we're going to get laws changed but I am very optimistic that more people will change their perspective for the better. This change in perspective will not be without pain, because it will coincide with more men gtow and abandoning chivalry.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 02:19 PM
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For an academic and activist approach, I would point you to the works of 1. Dr. Christina Hoff Sommers, a Feminist who was cast out of the sisterhood for criticizing Feminism. 2. Dr. Warren Farrell, a feminist and long time men's rights activist. 3. Erin Pizzey, a noted activist on domestic violence and founder of the first women's shelter in the UK. If you want my personal opinion, Feminism as a movement has worn a mask of equality while pursuing female supremacy and political activism for Left…
/r/MensRights07/04/13 01:51 AM
2

I don't know about that one, but a UK feminist got harassed and shunned by feminists for writing a book on female paedophiles.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 10:42 PM
4

No wonder Feminists love alimony so much, it treats women like children which is a Feminist goal.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 10:29 PM
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Exactly. I've told this story before, but I used to be a Feminist. In college, I had good relationships with many campus Feminists including a professor who was one of the most outspoken. I had long, productive conversations with them about men's issues, and how Feminism has hurt men, boys, and some women. This was acknowledged, and I was told in no uncertain terms that "Feminism has made mistakes" and "Feminists are working to rectify them." This was fifteen years ago.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 09:58 PM
1

Yeah I have been watching Feminists play this little game where all bigotry coming from their movement "doesn't represent Feminism" for my entire adult life and it's beyond tiresome.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 09:23 PM
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I give her some credit for criticizing radfems and acknowledging female abusers but beyond that it's just the same boilerplate bullshit.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 09:02 PM
2

I agree with this too. However, human nature is rarely altruistic and I'd rather see them give a selfish effort than give no effort at all. However it's up to us and gender egalitarians to keep calling them out when they're wrong and continuing our own efforts.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 08:13 PM
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If they actually "work on it" i will give them the thumbs-up and say it's about damn time. But my prediction will be that if that continues there will be some serious friction within the feminist movement between those open to men's issues and those who want to abuse and manipulate men.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 06:22 PM
5

This is an extreme disrespect of your body and your need and you should dump her. Lest I sound extreme, if she had just been persistent the first time, but then she left you alone, I would say it was an honest and forgivable mistake.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 04:13 PM
4

I appreciate that, but I think we need to speak truthfully about just how off the deep end the movement is. If reasonable feminists don't want to be associated with bad behavior, they need to reform their movement.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 01:55 AM
4

Women's rights = Awesome. Feminism = Vehemently opposed to the rights of men and women they don't agree with.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 12:01 AM
6

Yet women will bend science into a pretzel to announce that biology makes them superior in some way.
/r/MensRights05/04/13 11:59 PM
8

Same old bullshit Not All Feminist Are Like That deflections, but otherwise a good discussion. Reasonable feminists are in deep denial about how much pain their movement has heaped on men, boys, and some women over the years. They can prove they're "not like that" by reforming their movement.
/r/MensRights05/04/13 11:47 PM
10

This is quite hilarious coming from a website proudly displaying Soviet imagery.
/r/MensRights05/04/13 11:02 PM
1

This would be accurate without the "some."
/r/MensRights05/04/13 11:00 PM
3

Perhaps, but since when have Feminists ever uttered one word of protest against the objectification and harassment of men?
/r/MensRights05/04/13 05:55 PM
2

Perhaps, but since when have Feminists ever uttered one word of protest against the objectification and harassment of men?
/r/MensRights05/04/13 05:54 PM
3

Wouldn't that be nice? Trumped-up War On Women propaganda isn't just for smearing conservatives anymore.
/r/MensRights05/04/13 05:54 PM
1

I was just making the point that Feminism primarily serves the interests of Left-leaning middle class and wealthy women, and they get a great deal of money and power from the political left. I acknowledge the Right's furtherance of misandry and female privilege, but they are not "the same" as the Left as they are not the funding and bureaucratic power behind feminism.
/r/MensRights05/04/13 05:22 PM
8

When Feminists get all up in arms when men are objectified for their utility, money, or sexuality, then I will take them seriously on this issue.
/r/MensRights05/04/13 04:58 PM
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Most of my friends and acquaintances are willing to get massages from either gender, but yes, I can see how this would be a problem. I am male, and I actually prefer a male massage, because I prefer a stronger massage. There are no sexy reasons behind it, and in the extremely unlikely event my masseur were thinking sexy thoughts, I don't care.
/r/MensRights05/04/13 03:42 PM
2

I absolutely believe men and women can help each other, but I am quite confident in saying that Feminism is counterproductive to this goal. You and the other "reasonable feminists" need to start reforming your movement posthaste as it currently functions as a fairly cult-like hate group. Also, Feminism is chiefly responsible in modern times for portraying men in negative stereotypes. Feminism carried over all the negative stereotypes from the Victorian era, injected them with steroids, and then …
/r/MensRights04/04/13 09:35 PM
1

Actually, I don't think we were making that assumption. At all.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 09:04 PM
1

Agreed, but feminism as a movement is far more powerful and large than focus on the family or even social conservatism.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 05:24 PM
2

Institutionalized feminism gets most of their money and power from the mainstream Left. In the US, for example, Feminists function as a political constituency of the Democrat Party and in return they are richly rewarded by Democrat politicians and Left-leaning foundations. However, it is reasonable to say that Feminist leadership definitely leans towards the more far left.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 03:57 PM
5

Feminism focuses on the desires and ideology of middle and upper class professional white women who are in agreement with the political left.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 01:35 PM
5

Yes feminism is about shoving women into a fairly narrow set of behaviors.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 01:26 PM
2

Not all feminists are like that, but the reasonable feminists have been utterly negligent in reforming the movement. This FEMEN thing is just scratching the surface, seriously. The Feminist movement is doing a lot of really, really nasty shit that hurts men, women, and children. My suggestion to you would be to take off the rose-colored glasses and join with your fellow reasonable feminists to fix your movement.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 01:25 PM
3

And this is precisely what I thought at the time that I described to you. The "crazies" or "morons" represent the beliefs of Feminist leadership. Rad Fems run the movement. The "reasonable" feminists actually make things even worse, because they provide rhetorical cover for the rad fems without seeking reform.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 01:12 AM
3

"Maybe it needs to run its natural cause so people can see it?" It's been going on for the entire history of the movement, and many of Feminism's leaders over the years have been among the worst. There is a difference between understandable ignorance, willful denial, and secret agreement and the "reasonable" feminists are fully in the latter categories. I used to be an egalitarian feminist. When in college, I got on very well with one of the most outspoken feminist professors on campus. I had se…
/r/MensRights04/04/13 12:01 AM
5

I am sure you have lots of facts, figures, and details already so I'm just going to add a few things i think are important. Well the first thing I will say is that there is not a "men's side of rape." Both sexes can rape. Both sexes can be raped. Women can be rapists, with men, women, and children as the victims. Basically any scenario you can imagine where a woman gets raped, can happen to men, too. And if you go into the presentation with that in mind, my feeling is that it will be a more fair…
/r/MensRights03/04/13 11:36 PM
4

I know you mean well, but how much more shit does Feminism have to throw at common human decency before we are willing to speak the truth about the hate and tyranny they stand for?
/r/MensRights03/04/13 09:48 PM
16

When have feminists ever been concerned about logic?
/r/MensRights03/04/13 08:32 PM
5

This is true.
/r/MensRights03/04/13 08:19 PM
10

Look at who Feminism chooses to excommunicate - Christina Hoff Sommers, Camille Paglia, Warren Farrell, sex workers rights activists, other egalitarians concerned about genuine equality. Then contrast that with the radical feminists who enjoy popularity and respect in the movement.
/r/MensRights03/04/13 08:15 PM
20

Mainstream feminism is dead-set against sex workers and has a long history of using brutal tactics against them.
/r/MensRights03/04/13 08:05 PM
11

Nope. I am quite confident in calling them feminists. This is the true face of the movement.
/r/MensRights03/04/13 08:02 PM
1

They satirize everybody. Look for "everything a woman does is now empowering" for a classic Onion piece on women.
/r/MensRights03/04/13 07:04 PM
0

Oh believe me I'm called that too. Including by an african-american gentleman whom I helped get his first job in the industry we both work in.
/r/MensRights03/04/13 02:51 AM
7

Well, considering how many former friends and acquaintances now say I'm the devil incarnate simply because I don't think Obama walks on water, I will say it is pretty widespread.
/r/MensRights03/04/13 01:35 AM
6

The political Left provides the money and power that institutionalized Feminism needs to survive and grow. Both the Right and the Left are abysmal on men's issues, but there is no doubt that the Left is a much worse enemy than the Right.
/r/MensRights03/04/13 12:34 AM
-12

Yes, most (not all) Leftists are totalitarian bullies.
/r/MensRights03/04/13 12:33 AM
8

The political Left provides the money and power that institutionalized Feminism needs to survive and grow. Both the Right and the Left are abysmal on men's issues, but there is no doubt that the Left is a much worse enemy than the Right. As long as you're willing to challenge people of your ideology, it's fine to be on the Left. I challenge people on both sides, in real life.
/r/MensRights03/04/13 12:32 AM
31

Non-issue. Drunk sex is not consenting sex, according to Feminists.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 11:56 PM
60

If you were drunk and she was sober, she raped you.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 10:34 PM
10

Many feminists desire gender equality in the mistaken belief that feminism wants gender equality, but feminism isn't a gender equality movement. The movement aggressively fights and lobbies against gender equality on many issues, as has been extensively documented. Anyone who genuinely desires equality should look elsewhere than feminism.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 08:15 PM
50

That's not that the "r/feminism brand" of feminism. That's feminism. The history of the movement is a history of groupthink, censorship, and bullying.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 07:39 PM
-2

I am proudly anti-feminist because feminism is anti-civilization and anti-human. Feminism is only "pro" the ideology of Left-leaning women.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 11:22 AM
2

Yeah one time i kicked her out of my house at midnight and told her "mean what you say and say what you mean." Never heard back from her again, which is fine.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 02:55 AM
3

I, personally, have had three different women tell me "no" and then they got mad when I stopped, because apparently she was teasing. And I haven't been with all that many women.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 10:07 PM
2

Well, tell her that you spoke out of emotional shock before but now you are ready to take responsibility. If the baby is yours, you're going to get fucked regardless. So the choices are, get fucked and enjoy shared custody, get fucked and never see your kid, or expatriate.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 06:18 PM
9

Let her know if she wants to have this baby, you will insist on shared custody, you have the money to pay lawyers, and you will get a paternity test right after the baby is born. There is an outside chance she will decide she doesn't want to go through with it, if she realizes you will not just be sending her a child support check in the mail every month, no questions asked. Otherwise, pray that the baby is not yours, leave the country never to return, or make the best of being a father.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 05:10 PM
13

I think it's time that Feminists just come out and say they don't believe women are capable of being adults.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 02:44 PM
5

I think her political views are ignorant, she is trigger-happy on blocking comments from her YouTube, and she is irascible and arrogant. She also has a good perspective on gender issues and other things and has written some good articles/done some good videos. I'm not going to get too bent out of shape about it unless the latter changes.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 01:46 PM
2

Men's Rights, as a subreddit, attracts a lot of trolls and people who just want to vent. Feminism, as a movement, is proven to actually discriminate against men and some women and actually work to remove their human rights. Not to mention, many influential Feminists spew appalling bigotry and lies against men.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 01:25 PM
15

It is very true that Feminism is only a problem because men enable it. Still, it is natural for us to criticize and attack Feminism. It's the current vanguard of misandry and female-centrism in society. It is natural for us to attack and criticize the vanguard. Also, this is one of the few places we can criticize Feminism openly. I think we do a pretty good job here of also calling out chivalrists and other sources of misandry and female centrism. I would be worried if we treated Feminism as our…
/r/MensRights01/04/13 04:00 AM
2

Yeah and the fact that they haven't shut him down yet is pretty remarkable too
/r/MensRights31/03/13 08:47 PM
9

Hey everybody, OP is monitoring everything we do everywhere, 24 hours a day, and he is displeased. Be ashamed of yourselves.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 06:41 PM
10

Why call ourselves anything? I've been talking about these issues for 15 years and I've never called myself anything.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 06:38 PM
4

Taranto is the only red pill mainstream journalist I know of who is willing to discuss it openly.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 05:47 PM
3

There are many moral and religious reasons to oppose it, but as those are somewhat subjective I won't go there. For the alpha males, it will guarantee more progeny as well as give them a lot more "hand" over their mates. If she's being a pain in the ass, he can go hang out with one of his other wives. For women, they get part-time access to an alpha male and full-time access to the money and security he provides. Many women will jump at that chance, as we've already noted how women are happy to …
/r/MensRights31/03/13 03:20 PM
-1

In the future, polygamy will be seen as an increasingly attractive option for women who want to get married but find "no good men left." And alpha males and wealthy males will be able to turn their "soft harems" into actual harems. Feminists will find ways to bend their mind into pretzels to rationalize it. Count on it.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 02:48 PM
5

"Women need men. Feminists need men. Although some may not want to admit it, because one of the tenets of feminism is that women can do things on their own."
/r/MensRights31/03/13 04:00 AM
15

"Women need men. Feminists need men. Although some may not want to admit it, because one of the tenets of feminism is that women can do things on their own."
/r/MensRights31/03/13 01:02 AM
14

It's actually a devastating indictment of Feminism that after all the shit they heap on us, they have to come to us with hat in hand.
/r/MensRights30/03/13 11:31 PM
3

Found article through this Chapin video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZhZcjNknZw
/r/MensRights30/03/13 07:32 PM
1

Yeah she was a mess.
/r/MensRights30/03/13 03:25 PM
4

It mainly annoys me because if men used a derogatory term to refer to women's safe space we would be portrayed as evil. I had a Feminist girlfriend who used to pick fights with me and then when I reacted, would say "oh boo hoo, now go retreat to your mancave."
/r/MensRights30/03/13 05:28 AM
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-What are goals of this movement? Broadly and specifically (in terms of legislation, etc etc)? How would you like people to perceive the movement?- Well I am not an MRA, I'm an everybody's rights advocate, but I would like people to perceive this movement as uncompromising in its gender egalitarianism and support of human rights for all. -How have you heard patriarchy defined? Do you believe patriarchy exists? Why or why not?- I have heard dozens of definitions of patriarchy, most of them illogi…
/r/MensRights30/03/13 03:23 AM
4

This feminist is the second one who has said that the NOW doesn't represent feminism. I feel like taking a shot of whiskey to celebrate.
/r/MensRights29/03/13 10:20 PM
6

Which is also why prominent feminists say all hetero sex is rape.
/r/MensRights29/03/13 06:46 PM
2

I acknowledge that Japan may have been affected by a "perfect storm" of cultural influences which has made MGTOW / Herbivores so prevalent. But men in other societies are very capable too. In the US, the current status quo is so overleveraged on taking advantage of beta providers and chivalry that even a modest growth in MGTOW will be destabilizing. We're already seeing that, as evidenced by the frequent cries of "where are all the good men?" and "why aren't men being packmules for their harrida…
/r/MensRights29/03/13 04:18 PM
1

I honestly don't think about it when I'm out in public. I'm sure some women are terrified by a tall polite mildly overweight bald white guy who dresses well but I don't even pay attention unless they say something.
/r/MensRights29/03/13 04:32 AM
2

Yes, very true. As a philosophical concept we have lost the true meaning, same with "skepticism."
/r/MensRights29/03/13 03:37 AM
10

I think it's a great idea and I promise to be on my best behavior.
/r/MensRights29/03/13 02:10 AM
7

TOTAL FABRICATION
/r/MensRights29/03/13 02:08 AM
1

Prevalence of sex dolls / robots / VR sex could bring it about.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 09:51 PM
2

I agree and prevalence of sex dolls / robots / VR sex may bring this about. It will be ridiculously disruptive to society and I will be ROFLing all the way.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 09:50 PM
1

I got the feeling she might be an interior designer rather than someone who works there. But your point still applies because most interior designers don't make any money.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 08:04 PM
3

You should probably do a little research on the suffrage movement. 1. Suffragettes were adamantly opposed to many feminist causes. 2. Suffragettes also played a role in the UK's "white feather" campaign that shamed young men (who couldn't vote) into enlisting in the army.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 07:53 PM
0

Sounds like two typical feminists to me.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 07:21 PM
2

Why are you putting Feminists in quotes?
/r/MensRights28/03/13 06:58 PM
8

Luckily I know there are some enlightened women on this issue, but the transactional nature of sex seems to be at the level of basic biological programming. I think it's equally negative when men treat sex as something they take from her.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 05:28 PM
6

She perceived that if i complained about anything she said or did, that meant I was weak.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 05:15 PM
15

I agree, but we don't see reasonable feminists making much effort to enlighten their "sisters."
/r/MensRights28/03/13 05:14 PM
3

I support gay marriage, but there is one argument against it I find to be cogent: That marriage, traditionally, is defined as a hetero relationship and this tradition has gone on for thousands of years. If you change that fundamental definition, then you're changing the fundamental status of marriage. I don't agree with this, but it is reasonable.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 05:12 PM
13

I agree completely, but you are going to have an extremely hard time convincing most women that they shouldn't expect payment for sex. Another example of women repressing and objectifying themselves.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 04:50 PM
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Most women are only open to men's rights if men enjoying rights does not impede female privilege. Feminism is based on mythology and propaganda. We're using logic, history, and common sense.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 03:41 PM
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Basically this was her worldview: Women & LGBT can go crazy in whatever gender roles please them. Heterosexual men are supposed to be stoic providers that take care of everyone else.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 02:19 PM
20

Oh yes. Basically this was her worldview: Women & LGBT can go crazy in whatever gender roles please them. Heterosexual men are supposed to be stoic providers that take care of everyone else.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 02:19 PM
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Yes I once had a Feminist girlfriend who would berate me constantly and when I complained, would say "You're a man, and you're supposed to be stoic."
/r/MensRights28/03/13 12:39 PM
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I'm assuming you are in US in which case you should contact the EEOC. If not, you should contact whatever gov't agency handles such things. Your boss is in a position of authority and should not be touching you in any way. I would go IMMEDIATELY to the EEOC, with your documented complaint in writing. If they fire you, this is evidence of retaliatory action based on your legitimate complaint and they will be in serious trouble in any court. The EEOC reports that they are seeing a lot more complai…
/r/MensRights28/03/13 03:31 AM
7

None of which the sign actually says.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 11:21 PM
7

While you're imputing malicious intent on me, perhaps you'd like to know that I was forced into sex by a Feminist ex-girlfriend who physically and verbally abused me for nearly an hour before I acquiesced to sex. So I am well aware sex can be coerced. What I am not seeing is an indication that is what this sign is talking about. If the woman was holding up a sign that did say "child, blackmailed, drunk" etc I would agree with it.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 11:21 PM
10

Barbara Kay has been writing on these issues for years.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 11:14 PM
19

Yes, you got it.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 10:09 PM
16

THAT'S NOT WHAT THE SIGN SAYS. You are projecting meaning onto a sign that says NO SUCH THING. It says nothing about being a child, or being blackmailed, or super drunk.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 08:41 PM
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No because Feminists have defined "withholding sex" as domestic violence. (Seriously)
/r/MensRights27/03/13 08:40 PM
8

Feminist Empowerment: Removing all sexual agency and accountability from women.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 08:39 PM
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Feminist Empowerment: Removing all sexual agency and accountability from women.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 08:10 PM
6

Are women strong and independent adults able to consent to sex, or are they perpetual children who aren't capable of sexual agency?
/r/MensRights27/03/13 08:09 PM
2

I agree, but Feminists who aren't sex-positive have focused the majority of their advocacy on demonizing male sexuality. Also, Feminism is still forcing traditional gender roles on men. It's only the women they want to "free." That's why Feminism continues to demand alimony, the primacy of maternal child custody, and domestic violence laws that discriminate against men.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 07:45 PM
3

Feminism has used promiscuity as part of their documented agenda to destroy traditional relationships. They have injected female hypergamy and sexuality with methamphetamines and blame "men" for every negative consequence that comes of it. Feminism's message to women is "There are no rules, but if you don't behave promiscuously you're an uncool, unempowered pawn of the Patriarchy." Feminism's message to men is "There are no rules, but if you break them or a woman breaks them it's you're fault."
/r/MensRights27/03/13 06:47 PM
2

Non-bigoted argument against gay marriage: The long-established definition of marriage is a man and a woman. Gay marriage throws out thousands of years of tradition. I support gay marriage but the above is an example of a non-bigoted argument. I even know some gay people who say the above.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 03:07 PM
1

2nd - wave feminism had a very apparent "separatist" mentality - they were much more open in their man-hating but they also pushed for women to behave as men, and were more equality-minded. For instance, second-wave feminists supported the equal rights amendment and shared parenting. 3rd - wave feminism came out of the recognition that women don't actually want to be strong and independent, they want "equality" when it benefits them and traditional gender roles when it benefits them.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 02:48 PM
4

Men and women both face issues. However, women's issues are portrayed as crisis #1 and get literally hundreds of billions of dollars of $$$ and attention to alleviate them. Men get laughed at. Therefore, the fact that men's rights advocates talk about the treatment of men, doesn't mean we deny women's rights or deny that women face issues. I care about women's rights just as much as men's rights, but the reality is, men's rights are severely compromised, misandry is getting worse, and nobody car…
/r/MensRights27/03/13 12:34 PM
13

Yes, that is what I was thinking. This is retaliation.
/r/MensRights25/03/13 07:49 PM
17

In other evidence of the growing murderous intent of Feminism, Femitheist Divine has over 1,000 followers on Twitter and from reading her timeline, some of them actually take her seriously.
/r/MensRights25/03/13 06:41 PM
0

"What happened to female sexual agency?" Feminism happened you dolt.
/r/MensRights25/03/13 04:53 PM
3

Good stuff. I often feel that the Christian and Catholic churches are pathetically useless on these issues but this guy gets it.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 03:29 PM
7

SHE WAS 12. He sexually abused her. Period.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 03:07 PM
5

He should be fired. I would be happy to see him in jail too.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 03:06 PM
7

Yes, the counselor sexually abused her. Why is this even a question?
/r/MensRights24/03/13 03:05 PM
0

The "Real Feminists" are too busy washing their white hoods and frocks for the next rally.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 09:20 AM
2

Yes I heard about her but I didn't realize she had a plan in place. I'm LOLing as I type this.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 08:56 AM
3

Well you also have a fair number of feminists who have called for killing men or male genocide. Some of them, including Mary Daly and Robin Morgan, were / are seriously influential in the movement. And "FEMEN" a modern feminist Ukranian group has called for violence against men.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 04:06 AM
3

Gangs of feminists could start slashing random men with knives in the streets and other feminists will find a way to rationalize it.
/r/MensRights23/03/13 01:20 PM
2

Men aren't going to be treated with respect until we start standing up for ourselves.
/r/MensRights23/03/13 01:18 PM
39

She deserves scorn for crass manipulation of the traditional gender roles women complain about. But if guys are stupid enough to shell out $$$ for a first date (and she's not an escort) they kind of deserve it. Men: Stop paying for first dates. Split with her if you want, but the reality is, you can have great first dates without spending a cent. If you want to buy her a cup of coffee or whatever that's ok but NO BIG $$$ FIRST DATES. If she's worth getting to know, she will want to get to know y…
/r/MensRights23/03/13 12:08 AM
4

I was harassed and physically coerced into sex by a former girlfriend and it would never have come close to that situation if I could have protected myself without going to jail. She kept grabbing me, groping me, and slapping at me and trying to drag me onto the floor with her. One slap back could have ended the situation but I would have ended up behind bars, and I knew that.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 10:06 PM
15

Forbes is notorious for white-knighting.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 08:26 PM
4

If the "reasonable" ones have not split from the movement already, I'm not going to hold my breath that this will wake them up. Likely, we will get another pitiful NAWALT and then they will put back on the white hoods.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 07:50 PM
6

If this video is accurate, Anonymous is about to bring righteous fury on Adria and her supporters. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Sm1aUjzVz00
/r/MensRights22/03/13 07:36 PM
1

And, they want the "good man" to accept her how she is. regardless of whether she brings anything to the table.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 07:03 PM
1

DONGLE DONGLE DONGLE FOOOOORRRRRKKK!
/r/MensRights22/03/13 07:02 PM
14

I am thankful for Hugo Schwyzer, because he serves as our greatest cautionary tale on why men shouldn't become feminists.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 05:21 PM
13

I started to get angry but when I figured out it was from Schwyzer I laughed and left the page without finishing.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 04:52 PM
2

Saint Sarkeesian? Say it isn't so! ;)
/r/MensRights22/03/13 04:48 PM
2

I'm delighted a plurality of men and women can be reasonable about this. I also reserve the right to call haters and hypocrites what they are. If people don't want to get called out for being a shit, they can stop being a shit and make better choices.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 04:18 PM
5

The first step is admitting you have a problem.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 03:10 PM
2

The complete lack of reproductive rights is your male privilege.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 03:01 PM
-3

Hey fuckhead - I'm a libertarian and i donate about 10% of my yearly income to causes that help men.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 09:28 AM
21

Modern Woman: "Where are all the good men?" Red pill: "You're strong and independent, why don't you step outside of your comfort zone and look for one?" Modern Woman: "Waaaaaaaah! He's supposed to approach me! I'm a woman, I shouldn't have to do anything other than float through life and have all my dreams come true!"
/r/MensRights21/03/13 10:49 PM
-26

Good. Women deserve to get marginalized when most of them condone supremacism and double standards.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 04:42 PM
0

true
/r/MensRights21/03/13 11:15 AM
11

Prostitutes offer men an efficient, no strings attached means for sexual gratification, which lowers the "cost" that non-prostitute women can charge for their ministrations.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 02:57 AM
10

Around the world, anti-prostitution feminists often partner with creepy religious fundamentalists and corrupt law enforcement and treat the sex workers much worse than what they experience from clients.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 01:44 AM
0

I'm demonstrating the Feminist attitude. I believe that women are strong and independent adults and can go about their lives without every man being her personal police force.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 07:04 PM
0

Women are strong and independent adults, up until the point where they have to behave as strong and independent adults.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 05:37 PM
4

Yeah I also think the fact that there is a sizable minority of people willing and able to rationally criticize the Feminist faith gives other people courage to question.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 02:02 PM
8

The fashion and beauty industries are run by women, and cater to women's desires. If women didn't want to be marketed to in such a way, they would not buy it and these places would have to find another approach. Feminists who make that argument are dumber than a marshmallow peep.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 04:25 AM
6

I am very optimistic that there will be an upswing of enlightenment on gender issues. I am seriously pessimistic it will actually change any laws, given how entrenched Feminists are in the government now.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 03:52 AM
7

This is great. Disinfo tends to appeal to hard-left Occupy Wall Street types who may not normally come across feminist critiques.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 03:02 AM
8

"Welcome to your first day of training at Burger King. In this drawer are the cardboard crowns we give to children on their birthday." "Patriarchy!111!!1!!!!11!1" "Here at 7-11, it is extremely important the hot dog grill is cleaned every night..." "I am NOT TOUCHING that dispenser of phallus-tubes designed to normalize penile worship!"
/r/MensRights20/03/13 01:31 AM
11

To Feminists, rape = the pointing finger of a woman at a man.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 01:18 AM
9

Well then you'd better go tell Feminists your opinion right now because they are hell-bent on labeling any sexual contact "rape" if the woman decides at some point, even after the fact, that she didn't like it. Regardless of what she did at the time it happened.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 12:19 AM
9

Not when the higher education bubble pops. There are going to be zillions of angry women standing on street corners holding signs that say "Will apply Marxist-Feminist critique to your cisgender-privileged oppressive culture 4 food."
/r/MensRights20/03/13 12:00 AM
0

Feminism has many characteristics of a religion, and feminists demonstrate a faith-based belief in it. Rather than a reasoned conclusion based on facts. I have taken to calling it a hate cult these days, but in the past i've called it a goddess cult.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 11:22 PM
11

It comes down to whether you want a peaceful relationship or to convince someone who is in a hate cult. I just stopped talking to my mother about it, but I don't take her seriously on intellectual issues anymore and I don't exactly rush to the phone to call her on holidays.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 10:58 PM
22

She is a supremacist ideologue demonstrating dangerous levels of solipsism & superiority complex. I would just stop talking with her about it. If it makes you feel any better, my own mother says that the challenges that men face don't matter because to remedy them might inconvenience women.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 10:52 PM
35

If the teenager is a minor, then they cannot offer legal consent. If the teenager is a student, then most states consider that a power differential excluding consent as well.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 05:04 PM
140

I agree, and you can use that bigotry to your advantage. "Rape is rape. Why are you rationalizing sex predators?" "So you're saying 'he wanted it?' How is this not victim blaming?"
/r/MensRights19/03/13 04:35 PM
370

Nice. Also would be good to point out that young males are often victims of statutory rape by females.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 03:39 PM
4

Glenn Reynolds is married to Helen Smith, a conservative very outspoken on men's rights.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 02:53 PM
17

You should pop open a bottle of champagne and celebrate you don't have her as a friend anymore.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 02:46 PM
1

There are mra's from all political sides. Institutionalized feminism has its origins in Marxism and in the present day, gets most of their $$$ and power from the Left. That said, the Right is not very good for men's rights either. Of course socialists can be bigots. Their entire ethos is about bringing down the white man.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 02:38 PM
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Nobody. Feminists are projecting their desires to enslave men onto us.
/r/MensRights18/03/13 09:28 PM
7

The effective way to challenge opinions you find objectionable is to let them keep talking, shine a spotlight on them, and then offer your critique. Not to mention, this preserves everyone's right to free speech.
/r/MensRights18/03/13 08:21 PM
4

ONE OF US ONE OF US ONE OF US! Let's all jump off the cliff TOGETHER!
/r/MensRights18/03/13 07:45 PM
2

This is stupid. Seriously. Feminists have stated that: There is no need for an MRM because men have no issues. There is no need for an MRM because men should become Feminists. Feminism has always helped men, up until the MRM came along and ruined it. And now there is a Feminist camp developing that says: The MRM shouldn't expect feminism to fight their battles. LOOK IN THE MIRROR. How is a rational person supposed to take you seriously? Also, men's rights advocates and egalitarians have been try…
/r/MensRights18/03/13 02:58 PM
0

I was an egalitarian feminist all through college and up to my late 20's. When I was in college, I got along really well with the most outspoken feminist professor on campus. I had many good talks with her about gender roles, in which I listed the ways in which I felt Feminism had made mistakes. I was told, in no uncertain terms, by this feminist professor that the feminist movement realized that they had made a lot of mistakes, many of them affecting men detrimentally, and that feminism would w…
/r/MensRights18/03/13 12:54 PM
0

Christina Hoff Sommers is great but she has been excommunicated from the Feminist movement. Feminists clearly do not listen to her. For some unknowable reason she still calls herself a feminist, which I don't get.
/r/MensRights18/03/13 12:47 PM
3

My question would be "If 'nice' feminists exist, show me examples of what they are doing to challenge their monstrous 'sisters' and reform feminism."
/r/MensRights18/03/13 05:07 AM
0

Yes, but you have to be willing to reform the hate cult you're a part of.
/r/MensRights18/03/13 04:15 AM
3

Yet they are more than happy to take advantage of every single privilege Feminism gives them, keep their mouths shut when Feminism shits on men, and join in the chorus of misandry when they can get their jollies off of it.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 02:53 PM
85

YES, the white knight is to be blamed for his actions. We do not hand dysfunctional women passes because they are brainwashed by feminism, so we shouldn't give men passes either.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 03:34 PM
1

I saw the greed, mendacity, and hypocrisy of the world's ruling elites as caused by "men." I believe in equal rights and I was foolish enough to believe that that's what feminism wanted. I realized that "men" do not rule the world, rather a plutocracy does, and statistically, men are treated much worse by this plutocracy than women. I saw how this fact was obfuscated by feminism and how their claims of "patriarchy" simply don't pass muster. I learned about all the lobbying and advocacy AGAINST e…
/r/MensRights16/03/13 11:26 AM
1

sure, go for it but i may not answer until tomorrow.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 03:38 AM
3

Don't say anything about it. Women are strong and independent and they can take care of themselves.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 01:45 AM
1

I was an egalitarian feminist all through college and up to my late 20's. When I was in college, I got along really well with the most outspoken feminist professor on campus. I had many good talks with her about gender roles, in which I listed the ways in which I felt Feminism had made mistakes. I was told, in no uncertain terms, by this feminist professor that the feminist movement realized that they had made a lot of mistakes, many of them affecting men detrimentally, and that feminism would w…
/r/MensRights16/03/13 01:14 AM
3

Consider talking about the Equal Rights Amendment. That was once an important part of the women's movement which would have dramatically helped men.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 11:16 PM
5

Considering that just yesterday I was told by a Feminist that men are raped because they encourage rape culture, I could actually see a feminist saying the above.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 07:21 PM
2

The only thing I've ever seen Feminism do to further equality is when they supported the ERA. And to say the least, they've buried that below "tropes in video games" type of garbage for many years. Most of the Feminist movement has been about championing women's rights over men's rights, and more specifically, championing the demands of privileged white women over everyone.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 07:17 PM
8

WHERE THESE MEN ENGAGE IN SEX THAT IS NOT RAPE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T RAPE A MAN MOARRRRR PATRIARCHY! /s
/r/MensRights15/03/13 06:53 PM
6

I hear you, but this doesn't go far enough. I will commend feminists who genuinely admit "mistakes were made" and also seek to correct them. This is nothing of the sort.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 05:59 PM
10

I don't know, but it would seem not if the violations are "similar"
/r/MensRights15/03/13 05:21 PM
9

This is a voice in the "let's hide under a rock before the backlash begins" camp of Feminism. Kicking men and children to the curb for Grrl Power was hunky-dory for the likes of Quinn up until the point where she realizes it's starting to hurt white middle class women.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 03:51 PM
2

Exactly, the pussy cartel must keep the supply rationed.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 01:59 AM
1

Yes, I patronized a brothel when I was vacationing in Germany. I think more people would be open to legalized prostitution if they saw the secure, clean, and respectful surroundings of that kind of establishment.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 01:59 AM
3

Especially appreciate how the article points out how women, men, and LGBT can all be affected by this ludicrous practice.
/r/MensRights14/03/13 11:14 PM
1

Either/or. Either we name the accused and the victim, or we don't name the accused and the victim. Victims of other crimes are often named, so it's not as if we never, ever name victims as a precedence.
/r/MensRights14/03/13 09:05 PM
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Yeah this was a really solid piece. I was impressed, as CNN is usually drivel.
/r/MensRights14/03/13 06:52 PM
1

Feminism: The Ladies Auxillary of the Patriarchy
/r/MensRights14/03/13 03:42 PM
-1

He has two choices. Leave the country and never come back. Insist on a paternity test after birth. If he is the father, insert a load of KY into his rectum and prepare to get fucked.
/r/MensRights13/03/13 04:19 AM
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Yes, Black and Latino men get nailed for race and for being a man. Great job, feminism!
/r/MensRights13/03/13 02:29 AM
7

I wonder if Germaine Greer feels guilty about sexualizing underage boys? Naaah...part of being a Feminist is having privilege to be an utter shit and get by with it.
/r/MensRights13/03/13 12:16 AM
2

It's obvious that Feminists perceive women to be utterly incapable of dealing with the outside world. It's about damn time they put their money where their mouth is, and went ahead and instituted Islamic-style purity laws for women. Bring on the burqa's. Don't let women out of the house except when accompanied by a male relative. Come on, feminists, you know this is what you want. Just pull on the big girl pants and say it.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 11:51 PM
2

It's not your job to protect women. They are strong and independent and better than men at everything, remember? Unless it's your wife, your daughter, or your mother, let women fend for themselves.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 12:40 PM
0

The Left owns Feminism. A whole bunch of the Left doesn't give a shit about women's rights (note the Left's support for the Muslim Brotherhood) (also note the near-total lack of support for Feminism within the Black and Latino community) but Feminism gets all their money and power from Leftist institutions.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 04:02 AM
5

I acknowledged the culpability of the Right on male disposability.. Feminism gets all their money and power from left-wing organizations and politicians. They don't even talk to most of the politicians / organizations on the Right.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 04:01 AM
0

Arizona State University is a public university and the posters were put up in a space where it is legal to post such things.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 03:58 AM
7

Not to mention that the wage gap has been debunked like five zillion times by noted economists.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 12:09 AM
12

Unfortunately, I believe free speech rights are under great attack, especially by the political Left in the media and in schools. Keep in mind that neither of Obama's supreme court nominees believe wholly in the concept of free speech.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 10:22 PM
1

Men are people. Women are people. Rapists are violent criminals. Most men and most women are not violent criminals. How does it help victims or bring perpetrators to justice to point out most rapists are men? It wouldn't be acceptable to talk about social maladies in this way in any other area of society. Example: "Black people should stop smoking crack." "Muslims should not be terrorists." "Latinos should stop entering the US illegally."
/r/MensRights11/03/13 10:13 PM
6

Yeah, black men have to deal with both misandry and racism.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 10:06 PM
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Institutionalized feminism is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Left, so it's not surprising most Feminists would promote the Left. The Right does have many problems with chivalry and putting women on pedestals, but it's not where institutionalized feminism calls home.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 09:46 PM
5

Maybe somebody needs to educate Ebony magazine on the many, many innocent Black men who have run afoul of our society's fucked-up attitudes around men and rape.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 09:19 PM
2

The useful idiots (most feminists) are deluded. The feminists who actually call the shots know very well what they are doing, and they know the unvarnished truth, when exposed, will kill their hate cult.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 08:57 PM
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The useful idiots (most feminists) are deluded. The feminists who actually call the shots know very well what they are doing, and they know the unvarnished truth, when exposed, will kill their hate cult.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 08:56 PM
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That's because they know their positions are based on unreality, and their progress depends on bullying and cajoling people into believing lies.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 05:45 PM
47

I know many feminists who have traditional views on male gender roles, expecting them to protect and provide for women. Unfortunately, too many men are still willing to do that.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 05:23 PM
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"I can't find a job --- hopefully I will be able to marry and let a man take care of me!"
/r/MensRights11/03/13 04:36 PM
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Here is an article detailing the incident http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/activism/to-the-arizona-state-university-poster-crew/
/r/MensRights11/03/13 03:37 PM
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This is because people have an instinctive bias to protect and privilege the female, and if she is given equal standing as men to call the shots, female supremacy will naturally arise because most people will want what she wants. Even if only 80% of women and 30% of men want female supremacy, they're going to get it, because of the instinctive bias in favor of the female.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 02:11 PM
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Yeah, that would be nice. Alternatively, the author may be in her 30's or 40's, at which time some women suddenly realize they can't hit men with hammers and still expect to be desirable.
/r/MensRights10/03/13 11:37 PM
2

This is great. Finally, a woman actually provides dating advice that will help women.
/r/MensRights10/03/13 10:15 PM
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Thanks for your kind words. I agree completely. About 8 years ago I was good friends with a middle-aged lesbian couple. They were very fair-minded and liked men a lot as friends and intellectual sparring partners. One of them said something like "Feminism has taught women their worst attributes are justified." and "We empathize with men having to deal with all these bratty women." At the time I was taken aback because it was like the first time I've ever heard women actually blame women for anyt…
/r/MensRights10/03/13 09:35 PM
2

Piece of evidence #9,174 that Feminism thinks women are lower than dirt.
/r/MensRights10/03/13 01:07 PM
0

agreed
/r/MensRights10/03/13 12:48 PM
1

Where do you live that is a male dominated culture? The US, Canada, Australia/NZ, and much of Europe are matriarchies.
/r/MensRights10/03/13 12:47 PM
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Because she is black and she was talking about black women?
/r/MensRights10/03/13 12:45 PM
2

Yeah her accent would indicate she is Caribbean.
/r/MensRights10/03/13 12:43 PM
1

We're going to be dealing with these toddler tyrants for a long time, and the government will make sure they have power to bite.
/r/MensRights09/03/13 03:43 PM
2

True. Given the reality it's kind of funny how even a lot of anti-feminist women still point to the golden moment of the suffragettes. Not that I'm blaming the suffrage movement for all that, society was much more class-based in those days.
/r/MensRights09/03/13 12:04 AM
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I blame the traditionalists for a lot of this, because the feminists were able to manipulate chivalry so they could be "strong and independent" and cared for all at the same time.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 10:19 PM
1

TRUTH
/r/MensRights08/03/13 10:17 PM
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I think Feminism has stunk ever since the suffragettes demanded the vote for women out of one side of their mouths, and shamed young men (who couldn't vote either) for not enlisting in WW1 out of the other side of their mouths.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 10:17 PM
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This was her perspective in a nutshell: Women are free from gender roles, and should boldly bend the gender horizons. LGBT are free from heteronormative oppression, and should be as audacious as possible. Men are stoic, strong, unemotional wallets and security blankets who are supposed to take care of their wives and girlfriends.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 07:15 PM
1

I usually try to weigh in with supportive comments when stuff like this gets barraged by the thought police, but I'm not going to do it with my real name.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 07:07 PM
3

"Feminism has put men on eggshells. You're only allowed to comment if you're willing to post your Facebook account and get mobbed by shrieking harpies."
/r/MensRights08/03/13 06:05 PM
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I had a fairly radical feminist girlfriend who held deeply conservative, traditional views of heterosexual men.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 04:07 PM
5

A fetid stink is emanating from Feminism, and everyone can smell it. Unfortunately, most people treat it like a fart in a room full of people. They only vaguely suspect the source, but they're not walking into the general vicinity either. Dedicated feminists have been wallowing in this stuff so long, they don't smell it until they see people that "belong" to them walking away. Feminism or not feminism, the reality is that female supremacism and misandry is the dominant cultural narrative in the …
/r/MensRights08/03/13 01:53 PM
5

One gets the feeling that there will be a lot of that going on in the future.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 02:21 AM
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I can specifically remember several instances where feminists have said that for a man to pressure a woman into sex when she doesn't want to, even if they are married, is rape.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 02:19 AM
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RAPE CULTURE!!!!!!!!!11!!11!!1!1!!!!
/r/MensRights07/03/13 08:20 PM
18

That's why I don't care that much about what people call themselves, and instead focus on their demonstrated actions. Feminism has a long history of wearing an equality mask while pursuing supremacism, and I feel that feminists who claim otherwise are either deliberately lying or stupid.
/r/MensRights07/03/13 05:23 PM
2

I hear what you're saying. In those kind of situations, usually the only people who actually want to run for office are those with a gigantic stick up their butt.
/r/MensRights07/03/13 04:45 PM
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Let's see how this develops before labeling the whole school. It's not unusual for petty tyrants in the student union to act in a way non-representative of the whole school. If everything gets swept under the carpet, then yeah, the school probably sucks.
/r/MensRights07/03/13 04:30 PM
14

The magical equality-minded Feminist unicorns that fart rainbows for world peace we keep hearing so much about say NAFALT!
/r/MensRights07/03/13 03:52 PM
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Please, Feminist lurkers, read this and then tell me why people concerned about men's issues should become Feminists.
/r/MensRights07/03/13 02:30 PM
3

Sometimes I think major media outlets have a rule "Aggressively stupid woman-pedestaling articles get published immediately."
/r/MensRights07/03/13 01:38 PM
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Yeah. No kidding. That's precisely the point i'm making. "Tell men to stop raping" is no less bigoted.
/r/MensRights06/03/13 07:04 PM
13

HEAVY SARCASM ALERT "Police don't need to arrest crack dealers, just tell black people to stop smoking it."
/r/MensRights06/03/13 05:43 PM
8

I am pro-choice. Feminism is pro-choice. That doesn't mean I have to support feminism, it just means i support pro-choice like they do. So that would not change my opinion. The only thing that will change my opinion about feminism is if they stop pursuing a bigoted, supremacist agenda.
/r/MensRights06/03/13 03:18 AM
8

Really? I hear women accuse other women of misogyny all the time. Women can be misandrist and misogynist. Men, likewise.
/r/MensRights06/03/13 01:47 AM
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Jessica Valenti also supports removing presumption of innocence from men accused of rape, so that he would be presumed guilty in the court of law. But don't worry; I have been assured by several "True Feminists" that Jessica Valenti, the "poster child of third-wave feminism" as noted by Salon magazine, isn't a real feminist.
/r/MensRights06/03/13 01:39 AM
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Julie Borowski, a popular Libertarian woman on YouTube, has also made a concise video which might be good to send to others. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMkDEe8ypfU
/r/MensRights05/03/13 11:56 PM
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christina-hoff-sommers/wage-gap_b_2073804.html http://articles.marketwatch.com/2012-07-26/commentary/32859540_1_gender-wage-women-staffers-higher-paying-fields http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-13/don-t-blame-discrimination-for-gender-wage-gap.html
/r/MensRights05/03/13 11:23 PM
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Can I just say it's ironic for a news network funded by Vladimir Putin to complain about police brutality.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 07:39 PM
2

Step 1: Cherry-pick a couple of grotesque examples of anti-female sexism. Ignore sexism against men. Step 2: Blame above sexism on all men everywhere, conveniently ignoring that women can be just as sexist against women and most men are not sexist. Step 3: Insist that women can wear whatever they want, but if men notice, it's evidence of how horrible men are. Result: Get published in a major media outlet. I am getting so tired of this shit.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 07:01 PM
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Feminism has put tremendous, documented effort into using legislation to marginalize males, demonizing masculinity, and breaking the spirits of men so they are willing to obey.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 06:45 PM
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Feminism is an outgrowth of the traditional beliefs that men are obligated to the provision and protection of women.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 05:36 PM
11

The pedestal that feminism & traditionalism puts women on encourages female criminals and helps them get away with it.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 01:34 PM
3

You made the right decision.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 12:44 AM
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There is no reason for men to help or rescue random women. Not only are they unappreciative half the time, you can get accused of stuff like this. Women are constantly telling us they are strong and independent. Let them prove it.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 12:43 AM
2

I think that's fine, because I know you will offer it to them rather than force it.
/r/MensRights04/03/13 03:32 PM
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I have no doubt that some sex workers are addicted to drugs. I also have no doubt that some elementary school teachers, nurses, lawyers, and other pillars of the community are too. Criminalizing sex work just means that people have to associate with criminals if they want to do sex work / purchase sex.
/r/MensRights04/03/13 02:52 AM
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Hey, at least she is willing to criticize feminists for something.
/r/MensRights04/03/13 02:49 AM
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Indeed. Also, browbeating sex workers into abandoning their trade raises the "price" that women can charge for their ministrations. Feminism is, in many ways, a trade union designed to raise the price of sex.
/r/MensRights04/03/13 12:13 AM
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I appreciate your open mind. But the sad fact is that the vast majority of women feel they are entitled to the current state of affairs and the majority of them would like to make things even more unfair. What's worse, plenty of woman-worshipping men feel the same. Though there may be more egalitarian women willing to speak up, the chances of seeing things change is slim to none. Women don't want to give up this entitlement, and the government certainly doesn't want to have to support these wome…
/r/MensRights04/03/13 12:11 AM
1

You will have as much success telling men to stop looking at tits and vaginas as you will telling women to stop looking at utility. Feel free to keep wrestling with the ocean if you want, but i choose to give "thumbs up" in the rare instance a modern woman acknowledges men can be wonderful.
/r/MensRights03/03/13 07:38 PM
2

Well, yeah, when you fail to hold an entire demographic accountable for anything and tell them they are entitled to the world, some of them will be bullies.
/r/MensRights02/03/13 08:40 PM
1

Excellent point, but that's just the reality of the situation. Men are judged based on their utility.
/r/MensRights02/03/13 07:30 PM
3

True, but it is a lot easier to cut off all ties with a girlfriend at the drop of a hat if she goes off kilter.
/r/MensRights02/03/13 07:39 AM
4

I'm one of the most outspoken conservatives / libertarians around this subreddit.
/r/MensRights02/03/13 07:30 AM
12

Looking on the bright side, reauthorization is yet more reason for men to avoid marriage like the plague.
/r/MensRights01/03/13 08:57 PM
15

Any one of these women or men who voted against it could have made history by standing up and calling out the bigotry. But they didn't because they are either craven cowards or they don't give a shit about men. Probably both. There is nothing to thank them for.
/r/MensRights01/03/13 08:04 PM
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I am a huge and vocal supporter of making this movement egalitarian and open to all. I'm not going to do that by falsely equivocating a very real social phenomenon. Most people vote for their perceived economic or cultural interests. But in almost no case can you see a coalition of men lobbying and voting for benefits that ONLY go to men, to the exclusion of women. In fact, most of the time, it is men voting to "protect the women." I'm not saying you believe in patriarchy theory, but patriarchy …
/r/MensRights01/03/13 07:56 PM
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I agree with you and in many ways suffrage is an excuse that deflects blame from male-led religious and secular institutions that should have kept this in check. Men have always been men's worst enemies. But you also have to understand our frustration on this issue. Most (not all) women are perfectly happy to loot what ever is not nailed down in our civil society, but then when men utter a peep about our problems, most (not all) women find some way to shame us.
/r/MensRights01/03/13 07:31 PM
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Helped along every step of the way by opportunistic alpha males and woman-worshipping average males on both sides of the political aisle.
/r/MensRights01/03/13 07:04 PM
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Vast majority of spending on social services from governments and NGOs goes to females, despite that men may be equal or greater victims of the harm being addressed. This is especially true in North America and Europe. Majority of the wealth that allows this spending is generated by men. Government runs female-favoring courts that ensure the wealth of ex-husbands will be sufficiently extracted to aid his ex-wife's independence. The Police State is growing in many countries around the world to ac…
/r/MensRights01/03/13 05:18 PM
7

It's not that our voices aren't being heard. It's that people simply don't give a shit. Accept it. They simply don't care. Maybe someday they will, but don't count on it. I say this not to bring you down, but so that you can leverage your expectations likewise.
/r/MensRights01/03/13 01:50 PM
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Oh Mrs. Mayer, didn't you get the Feminist memo? They say you owe everything you are to the Feminist hive-mind. Time to turn in your vajay to Central Command.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 06:50 PM
15

Well put. Neither women or men should be crudely harassed or groped at a conference, because it's a crude way for us to treat each other. But if people can't hear the word "rape" discussed in a professional matter like described above either have major problems dealing with the outside world or they are psychotic tyrants.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 12:10 AM
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Whenever I hear these really over-the-top tactics from Feminists, what they are saying is: "We don't believe women can interact safely with the outside world as adults." Nobody is saying that women should get groped or have someone speak to her in a crude aggressive manner. Men shouldn't have to deal with that either. But the extreme, hypersensitive Feminist tactics are just revealing their inherent misogyny. Plus their intentions to demonize males.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 11:28 PM
8

Whenever I hear these really over-the-top tactics from Feminists, what they are saying is: "We don't believe women can interact safely with the outside world as adults." Nobody is saying that women should get groped or have someone speak to her in a crude aggressive manner. Men shouldn't have to deal with that either. But the extreme, hypersensitive Feminist tactics are just revealing their inherent misogyny. Plus their intentions to demonize males.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 11:15 PM
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The key is to frame everything from an egalitarian perspective and ask polite questions for them to clarify. Most of the time you will make them look like a fool or a bigot if they persist in their argument. Now, some people may enjoy being sexist bigots, but most people will think twice. It is a good way to stand up for yourself. Example dialogue: Me: "OMG - this teacher seduced three of her male students and had sex with them." / Sexist: "Lucky guys! Is she hot?" / Me: "Adults aren't supposed …
/r/MensRights27/02/13 10:52 PM
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Dear Feminists: Why don't you just force women to wear a burqa and be accompanied by a male relative at all times. You know you want to.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 09:28 PM
1

True
/r/MensRights27/02/13 08:00 PM
1

I think male sexuality is demonized overall. Even gay men, as will be revealed when you note the vocal minority of anti-gay feminists, and if a feminist ever throws a gay slur at you for caring about men's rights. Males who tow the democrat party line have an easier time of it. For instance, Feminists bent over backwards to protect President Clinton during the Lewinsky thing, even going so far as to vilify Monica Lewinsky.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 08:00 PM
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If you don't want to report to the authorities, you could write up a nasty review on Yelp or similar review sites. Just tell what happened to you, and point out that people who are opponents of sexism should consider not eating at a place that is sexist.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 04:08 PM
1

Correction: They direct most of their attacks at heterosexual males who are perceived as some variant of conservative, or libertarian, or Republican. A Democrat male could get caught in a hotel room with a dead underage hooker and Feminists would rationalize it.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 02:43 PM
12

Right. That's the problem. How is any male employee supposed to feel HR is a helpful resource with that shit on the door? My company has over 100 people but doesn't have official HR so we're instructed to talk to a supervisor if there is a problem. There's also a really nice young guy in our finance department who manages our insurance and stuff like that, and I'd feel comfortable going to him too.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 02:14 PM
42

They're creating a hostile work environment. If there is a manager you trust, I would talk to him/her.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 01:03 PM
3

LOL. Yeah, they "save" sex workers by ganging up on them with creepy religious fundamentalists and law enforcement who often abuses them.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 12:55 PM
4

Rather than admit they are the world's biggest hypocrites, Democrats are projecting everything on to white men.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 12:54 PM
8

Yes, you got it. And for people using it to further their careers or political candidates. I believe things could be better for everyone, and I believe we can work together to make it happen. Feminism screws it up for everyone.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 02:27 AM
16

Thank you so much for speaking your mind. You are discovering the cold, hard truth about Feminism: They have an incredibly low opinion of women, UNLESS the woman adheres to a quite narrow ideology.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 01:50 AM
0

I agree completely and I get really pissed off how parents slack off at their jobs and I'm supposed to do more heavy lifting without gratitude. But Feminists are constantly telling us about how more women are needed in positions of power for "work life balance" so i LOL at the example of mayer.
/r/MensRights26/02/13 07:43 PM
3

Yeah I got forced 1am coming home drunk sex. Don't ever feel that you need to rescue women. This is a cruel and hypocritical burden that society puts on men. We are told time and again how strong and independent they are, so therefore they should have no need of rescue. Of course that doesn't mean you can't help someone out occasionally. But your needs, your comfort, and your self-respect come first. (not trying to lecture, this is realizations I had to come to) Exercise is a great choice. Also,…
/r/MensRights26/02/13 06:48 PM
6

10 bucks says that feminists find some way to blame men for this.
/r/MensRights26/02/13 05:46 PM
3

I had a partner who was abusive at times and forced me into sex once. I also questioned why I stayed in the relationship, and the conclusion I came to is because I had internalized the societal belief that men are less important than women, and abusive women are just "emotional" and don't mean any real harm. I did not go to therapy, but i did step away from women and dating and did a long, hard think evaluating all my beliefs about myself, women, and relationships. I resolved that my safety and …
/r/MensRights26/02/13 01:53 PM
1

Karma duuuuuuuuuude....
/r/MensRights26/02/13 01:45 PM
2

Is it so hard to believe that powerful people will encourage movements in society that help them consolidate power? The growth of female centrism has injected steroids into mass consumerism and debt. It has massively increased the size and power of the federal government. It has torn into our constitutional rights in the US, and rights abroad. It has destroyed the nuclear family, which gives government more control over how children are raised. If mommy isn't married to a good daddy, mommy marri…
/r/MensRights26/02/13 01:44 PM
1

A large enough revolt against female centrism in the status quo could force them to adapt their thinking
/r/MensRights26/02/13 01:40 PM
3

Feminist women and men are enthusiastic pawns of global elites who are using feminism to destabilize society for their own ends. It will continue up until the point that the global elites decide it is in their best interests to throw women under the bus, like they have men.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 09:06 PM
7

Google "The Misandry Bubble" - all this stuff is predictable. There's nothing we can do to stop them, so let them be supremacist assholes if they want. The karmic kickback to come will be even sweeter.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 08:51 PM
5

Don't get married.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 04:24 PM
6

I think it goes much deeper than this. White knighting, and feminism in general, hold women back from becoming self-reliant adults.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 04:22 PM
6

Good for you! And kudos to your gym for taking sexual harassment seriously.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 02:11 PM
2

Biology and the prevalent idea of "get what you can while the getting's good." But I feel it unwise until you get to know the girl better. Also, if a man is visiting a sex worker, that's another story.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 01:55 PM
3

The more I observe Feminists, the more I think they are deeply misogynist because of how little they think of a woman's ability to think on her own behalf and contribute to society.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 01:52 PM
3

Google "The Misandry Bubble" and read the whole thing. In ten years we could be looking at a completely different set of circumstances. Karma could come back hard against women.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 01:42 PM
2

Because pro-life women are perceived to be under the control of men. Remember, feminism does not believe that women are able to reason and make decisions on an adult level.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 04:57 AM
1

I think Feminists treat woman-hating Muslims with kid gloves because Islam is a sacred cow of the political left.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 01:22 AM
0

It's from a French film on sex workers I think.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 01:16 AM
3

Well, what I mean by removal, is that they in one way or another are no longer welcome in mainstream feminist discourse. Another example was an advocate for abused children in the UK who was harassed by feminists for writing about female paedophiles. She actually hosted a conference on the subject and feminists shouted down any speaker who said that women were capable of paedophilia, as well as speakers who were victims of female paedopiles. Here's a video on that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…
/r/MensRights25/02/13 01:09 AM
5

This might be a good time to mention that numerous feminists and women's rights advocates have tried to educate Feminism about the facts, and were promptly excommunicated. Christina Hoff-Sommers, an equity feminist, got kicked out of the movement she was once enthusiastically a part of. Erin Pizzey, the founder of the first woman's shelter in the UK, got death threats for telling the truth about female abusers and was kicked out of the movement. Camille Paglia, a controversial thinker and femini…
/r/MensRights25/02/13 12:04 AM
5

This might be a good time to mention that numerous feminists and women's rights advocates have tried to educate Feminism about the facts, and were promptly excommunicated. Christina Hoff-Sommers, an equity feminist, got kicked out of the movement she was once enthusiastically a part of. Erin Pizzey, the founder of the first woman's shelter in the UK, got death threats for telling the truth about female abusers and was kicked out of the movement. Camille Paglia, a controversial thinker and femini…
/r/MensRights24/02/13 11:53 PM
2

I think men sleep with women far too fast these days, and I have said as such, but I'm in the minority here on that stance.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 11:32 PM
8

My penis was mutilated at birth. MISOGYNY!
/r/MensRights24/02/13 11:29 PM
5

VAWA is unconstitutional in several respects, but no political force with the money and expertise to raise a court challenge has been willing to take it up. I used to be a financial supporter of the ACLU but stopped due to their failure to lobby against VAWA.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 11:13 PM
5

I would really like to believe all we have to do is educate. Hope springs eternal. My past experience when trying to educate based on facts, is fingers stuck in ears and "LALALALALALALALA! Can't hear you!!!!"
/r/MensRights24/02/13 11:10 PM
10

It is really debatable whether Feminists in the West care about women in third-world countries.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 10:39 PM
18

I'm sorry, but this just seems like another attempt at "Not All Feminists Are Like That." I don't care what feminists say about desiring equality. I care about their pursuit of demonstrated anti-equality positions on a number of issues, and their lying and bullying tactics. A movement that pursues supremacism and hate out of ignorance doesn't get excuses. It's still supremacism and hate. And I think you are wildly stretching the truth to say that feminists act on a basis of misunderstanding. The…
/r/MensRights24/02/13 10:29 PM
3

I understand your frustration. But I have been arguing about these issues for a long time, first from the perspective of an egalitarian feminist and now from the perspective of a human rights activist, and people are only going to see what they are willing to see. I can't tell you how many times I've politely and logically argued an egalitarian human rights position and still got called a hater because the position i was advocating was not female-centric.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 10:08 PM
3

Only a rape apologist would point out malicious claims of being a rape apologist! For Shame!
/r/MensRights24/02/13 09:31 PM
-5

Introducing the Vagina Vacuum: A penis attachment that sucks sperm out of a woman's vagina and cervix to ensure she doesn't try to entrap you with a pregnancy.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 08:49 PM
12

It's a bullshit phrase with little meaning. The reality on the ground is that both genders commit domestic violence at roughly equal rates but the money and attention goes to female victims and shows anti-male bias. If I owned a frozen yogurt store but had a bias against sprinkle topping and for crunch topping, I could put up a sign that says "nothing in this store should be construed to prohibit sprinkles." But if I don't carry sprinkles and put crunch topping on my frozen yogurt sundaes by def…
/r/MensRights24/02/13 08:38 PM
12

I'm not sure how we are supposed to combat this. I had a discussion last night elsewhere on the web where it was agreed by all that my position was the most kind and egalitarian one, but I still got attacked by most for being a woman-hating misogynist simply for asserting that men were marginalized. If we're "wrong" for arguing the most egalitarian position possible because "men suck and women rule", how can we portray ourselves as right?
/r/MensRights24/02/13 07:40 PM
-1

Women's expectations are getting outrageous, and I do consider it a men's rights issue because it is an example of hypergamy run amok. Especially since many women freak when men express personal preferences. It is especially a problem online because of the attention buffet that outlet offers women. Plus, if she met you in person she might really like some of these guys but the online profile is an incomplete portrait. One of my long term relationships started online, and she told me that she was…
/r/MensRights24/02/13 02:37 PM
3

Unfortunately, there are some people who would consider these acts permissable as a "post-birth abortion."
/r/MensRights24/02/13 03:02 AM
1

Because Feminists lobbied to have women count as minorities in order to get them more benefits from schholarships, grants, and social services.
/r/MensRights23/02/13 09:51 PM
8

Feminism was never about equality. Even the suffragettes demanded special privileges for women. Sommers is a good ally on some issues but as an advocate for traditional male roles of chivalry she still wants privilege for women.
/r/MensRights23/02/13 05:46 PM
6

Hoff Sommers is a good ally but she still demands chivalry be granted to women. Therefore she wants privilege not equality.
/r/MensRights23/02/13 05:43 PM
3

And under this system, the average man bore a great deal more hardship and risk to life and limb than the average woman. Especially considering he could be conscripted into war on point of death. Don't you think this adds a degree of complexity not acknowleged by feminists? "Men oppressed women" describes a completely different situation than "a few men oppressed everyone and treated men much worse."
/r/MensRights23/02/13 04:31 PM
12

You're only pointing at the demands of subservience placed on the woman and ignoring the counterpart demands placed on the man, which was that he was under strict orders to protect and provide for his family, often putting his life and limb under tremendous risk to do so. Back in the olden days, life was much harder and more dangerous. And men, being physically stronger and more emotionally resilient, and women, being bearers of children, made a deal with each other. Given that we no longer live…
/r/MensRights23/02/13 10:10 AM
7

You're not acknowledging the counterpart demands placed on the man, which was that he was under strict orders to protect and provide for his family, often putting his life and limb under tremendous risk to do so. Back in the olden days, life was much harder and more dangerous. And men, being physically stronger and more emotionally resilient, and women, being bearers of children, made a deal with each other. Given that we no longer live in such a society, I do not favor this structure and I want…
/r/MensRights23/02/13 10:07 AM
2

Too bad so sad, time for you ladies to be strong and independent now.
/r/MensRights23/02/13 04:05 AM
14

Feminists could throw their piss at male feminists and most of them will come back for more.
/r/MensRights23/02/13 02:22 AM
2

I appreciate your open mind, and I understand where you are coming from. I am more than happy to join forces with anyone who genuinely supports human rights for both genders, but I have an extremely hard time believing that anyone who identifies as a feminist has good intentions. Mostly because feminists so aggressively lobby against equality and for female privilege. Also, because of how poorly they treat conservative women. Thirdly, I notice how any Feminist or women's rights activist of note …
/r/MensRights22/02/13 10:50 PM
4

You do realize that we have Feminists coming here every single day telling us Feminists "aren't like that?" You're just as wrong and unaware of reality as they are. Feminism is a supremacist movement wearing the mask of an equality movement, and "moderate" feminists are too lazy or self-deluded to challenge the supremacism. Feminist lobbying has deeply hurt men's human rights, and hasn't been all that great for women.
/r/MensRights22/02/13 09:42 PM
1

Hitler made it abundantly clear that Naziism was socialism. "Nazi = right-wing" was Soviet propaganda that the USSR used to scare their populace about capitalism, and the propaganda was adopted by Soviet fellow travelers in the American and European Left.
/r/MensRights22/02/13 09:35 PM
2

I don't think you need to write a manifesto or identify as an "MRA." I've been publicly Tweeting and Facebooking on these issues for years. I write from a very egalitarian perspective and it is rare that I get blowback. In fact the worst that often happens is some male feminist will try to shit on me using emotional accusations.
/r/MensRights22/02/13 05:10 PM
1

When you sober up, please take some time to do a little bit of critical thinking. The extremists lead the movement. Feminism takes extremist positions on every issue, from claiming that women don't abuse children or commit domestic violence to saying that men have a "rape switch" installed in their brains. Feminist moderates have failed to challenge the bigots and extremists in the movement. In coming years, feminism is going to be exposed as the nest of sickos that it is, so maybe you should st…
/r/MensRights22/02/13 04:17 PM
8

Yeah unfortunately this is being promoted by our government, the schools, and the media and it is going to be nearly impossible to push back.
/r/MensRights22/02/13 03:26 AM
10

There has been a fair amount of feminist criticism of this series, actually. Some of it does the usual rationalizing away of female agency. One of the more interesting debates (to me) in gender and sex issues is the conflict between women in the BDSM community and anti-BDSM feminists.
/r/MensRights22/02/13 02:39 AM
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That means she is collaborating in her own oppression, because she has been brainwashed by men and society. Seriously. That's the theory.
/r/MensRights21/02/13 11:56 PM
16

That means she is collaborating in her own oppression, because she has been brainwashed by men and society. Seriously. That's the theory.
/r/MensRights21/02/13 11:55 PM
1

agreed
/r/MensRights21/02/13 11:52 PM
118

To all women reading this: Feminism doesn't believe you have personal agency. They think you are too stupid and inferior to make any decisions on your own behalf, to the point that you cannot enjoy sex with your male partner without it signifying your own woefully inferior status. While not all Feminists believe this, they provide rhetorical cover for the Feminists that do. And the Feminist theory above is the same Feminist theory that results in misogynist (and misandrist) Feminist ideas such a…
/r/MensRights21/02/13 10:19 PM
2

That means she can't be trusted, and he has fair warning.
/r/MensRights21/02/13 06:26 PM
2

Yeah, especially considering a lot of women will also use your tender points to throw back at you when she's in a bad mood.
/r/MensRights21/02/13 04:24 PM
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Why are you posting this? To show off what a complete moron you are? Why the fuck haven't you left this relationship yet? I do not want "men's rights" to get in the business of trying to help willful idiots.
/r/MensRights21/02/13 01:49 PM
60

Certainly. It's a double-bind. Better yet, many women will complain about men in their lives not being emotional, but then when he finally opens up she loses respect or attraction to him. If you are required to write a paper on the book, this would make a fascinating topic.
/r/MensRights21/02/13 03:33 AM
4

The best relationship I've ever been in was with a woman who was highly critical of Feminism and very sympathetic to the challenges men face. This was during my college years when I fully considered myself a feminist.
/r/MensRights20/02/13 11:53 PM
7

Do not spend ANY money on a woman until you know that she is worth getting to know and that she will reciprocate in some way. (note that doesn't necessarily = sex.) And even when you do spend money, make it a special occasion kind of thing. If you want to buy her a coffee or whatever that's fine. I mean gifts and $$$ more than 10 or 20 dollars.
/r/MensRights19/02/13 09:23 PM
1

I agree. Baby steps. Basically the less morally superior they feel, the better IMO.
/r/MensRights19/02/13 09:19 PM
0

Indeed.
/r/MensRights19/02/13 09:01 PM
4

Agreed and that's why I call it odd and convoluted.
/r/MensRights19/02/13 09:01 PM
37

If they are anything like my mother, they are comfortable with seeing their sons face challenges in life rather than inconvenience women.
/r/MensRights19/02/13 08:41 PM
0

I agree, and my ideal is to eradicate marriage completely. but the fact is that men and women are still going to get married & women are still going to view their husband as a mule. So at least Venker is trying to teach women to make him a happy mule.
/r/MensRights19/02/13 08:01 PM
1

lol
/r/MensRights19/02/13 06:22 PM
17

Then you won't have any problem leaving it. I was a feminist all the way through college and into my late 20's. I ran away as fast as I could once I realized just how bigoted and dishonest it is. It's a faith-based ideology with a selective view of reality and a history of being extremely dishonest about what it is actually lobbying for.
/r/MensRights19/02/13 12:27 AM
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