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No but there is r/incelexit .
/r/ExRedPill05/07/26 10:04 AM
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You don’t need to be exciting for every woman, just one person. It’s significantly easier and more attainable.
/r/ExRedPill30/06/26 11:36 AM
1

Well, what kind of men do many women go crazy for? They usually have a lot of charisma and style. They may or may not be good people but they will have a spark of some kind for lack of a better word.
/r/ExRedPill30/06/26 11:23 AM
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Misogyny, incel behavior, etc. Sometimes it’s not that bad but they’re just lacking in general. I know guys who are “ok”, they’re not bad per say, but they’re also uncurious, uncultured, no style and kinda bland. Women tend not to get excited for “just ok”.
/r/ExRedPill30/06/26 10:52 AM
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It’s not male exclusive the world is just more isolating due to a variety of preventable factors such as a lack of third spaces, over reliance on cars and so on and so forth. You are correct though in that a lot of men are isolated specifically because they totally suck as people and time is limited so socially competent people don’t want to deal with that.
/r/ExRedPill30/06/26 08:50 AM
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Most men will take up the offer to have sex with a woman they find attractive. Period. Anything else is wasted air, delusion and denial.
/r/ExRedPill27/06/26 07:45 AM
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Oh my god, who cares? Only in fringe circumstances is this actually a problem, like in the case of some hyper sexuality disorder or something. Give women a break already.
/r/ExRedPill09/02/26 09:59 PM
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I think men like this were primed into “good old days” thinking because of their egos. “Surely I can’t be the problem, the modern woman is to blame.” The “history” that they think they know is more often than not, about as deep and accurate as a collection of tropes from fictional media. Or writings by creepy and verbose white supremacists. Or war power fantasy. Maybe they know what a specific WWII tank is called but they don’t know how that war affected civilians or why fascism absolutely shoul…
/r/ExRedPill04/01/26 10:37 PM
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Guys like this suddenly become very “protective” of women when they feel like there may be competition of ownership. Also, sexists tend to be racists. And homophobes. And transphobes. They’re hateful, bitter and narrow-minded.
/r/ExRedPill26/12/25 03:50 PM
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What these articles seem to be describing isn’t good behavior, it’s this kind of wet washcloth, infantilizing, whiny, boring guy kinda behavior. Respect doesn’t mean treating them like dumb animals.
/r/ExRedPill01/05/25 09:21 PM
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They also don’t exist in animals. The term was lifted from a redacted study.
/r/ExRedPill19/04/25 07:39 PM
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Engaging in a lot of casual sex with different people takes energy, time and involves risk to varying degrees. For women this risk is much higher than for men. Most women do not seem satisfied with the kind of sex most men offer if Reddit is anything to go by. I would argue that repeatedly engaging in high-risk, low-reward behavior is really bad. That has nothing to do with slut shaming, archaic ideas of sexual purity or manosphere pseudoscience. You should spend time with people you like and wh…
/r/ExRedPill16/04/25 10:19 AM
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Case by case. Some abusers are really good at hiding their true selves until it’s too late. Women especially get stuck in scary, functionally speaking, hostage situations with dangerous men all the time. Other times, birds of a feather, flock together and people of poor character click with other people of poor character. The latter shouldn’t be too surprised when things go sour, but they tend to be arrogant so they frequently are. Either way, I usually think it’s better to refrain from judging …
/r/ExRedPill28/03/25 04:51 PM
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Case by case. Those women certainly didn’t impregnate themselves though. I’ll tell you that much.
/r/ExRedPill24/03/25 12:25 PM
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Women aren’t a monolith but in general, men who are generous and fun to be around are valued. Only women with serious issues want an abuser and those aren’t the kind of women you want in your life.
/r/ExRedPill14/03/25 07:48 AM
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Ok, first of all, there’s no such things as alphas, betas, etc. Those labels were from a redacted study on wolves in captivity. It’s not real for wolves and it’s not real for people. Women are normal people shaped by their lived experiences. They really aren’t that different from men at all. Some of them aren’t good people but that doesn’t mean that women are genetically predisposed to sleep with “bad boys” and then settle with some nerd caricature that makes money but she doesn’t want to sleep …
/r/ExRedPill06/03/25 08:48 AM
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Women are probably less promiscuous than they ever have been. Go outside.
/r/ExRedPill22/01/25 12:17 PM
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I don’t blame them for being unsatisfied with the current state of affairs. I do blame them for taking the incorrect course of action along with not self-reflecting in regard to how they are a part of the problem. I also blame them for inventing elaborate, misogynistic narratives as to what the issues actually are. There are very real problems today with dating, unrealistic expectations and the like. Some of these can be solved or at the very least, mitigated from the bottom up. Either by the in…
/r/ExRedPill08/01/25 09:14 AM
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If a man really just wants to do their own thing, cool. However, MGTOW is just collective sour grapes.
/r/ExRedPill08/01/25 07:22 AM
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Are you 12?
/r/ExRedPill07/01/25 07:19 AM
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Your reading comprehension isn’t good, you’re obtuse and you assume a lot. I give advice because I’m a success story. Simple as. An exception doesn’t make the rule. Most women do not want to be approached or have sex with random men. If you didn’t have the mentality of not listening to women regarding these sorts of things, you’d know that. I’m not impressed by anyone who finds a penny on the ground after looking for one all day. Get a real life that doesn’t involve sniffing around the streets l…
/r/ExRedPill07/01/25 07:18 AM
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People can be passionate about stereotypically nerdy hobbies while also being passionate about other things. I’m also passionate about high fashion and health, which helps my presentation immensely. People can be complicated and nobody is only one thing except for the underdeveloped. Your claim of me having no real experience is based off what exactly? I have spent years engaging with people and building my network. From former incel to social butterfly. Suggestions or generalizations based off …
/r/ExRedPill06/01/25 02:39 PM
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The fragmentation of society is a very real problem but if someone lives in or near a city and is willing to branch out, they can find appropriate places to talk to women. People need to develop real interests. Gym bro shit is boring. People need to go where their passion is and find similarly passionate people. Alternatively, non-invasive small talk can work really well as far as networking goes if you’re excellent with presentation and have good vibes. Frequently, less is more. I met my girlfr…
/r/ExRedPill06/01/25 10:19 AM
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It doesn’t really matter much because “the cold approach” as a concept is off-putting and weird. Yesterday, my girlfriend and a mutual female friend were cold approached by a guy with me present. He was conventionally attractive but had a skeevy vibe. Seemed disingenuous. Also had some odd rings which makes me think that maybe he was a PUA. He was clearly trying his luck. After he took the hint that the women weren’t interested and left, the women quickly asked each other if they had pepper spra…
/r/ExRedPill05/01/25 04:19 PM
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Looks and presentation are extremely important. “Just be yourself” is incomplete advice. It should be “be the BEST VERSION of yourself”. Women can be very observant. Did you have a sweaty, anxious vibe? Were you musty? Do you floss? Dirty shoes? How is your posture? We don’t know anything about you. But you do sound very insecure from your post, which is understandable, no harsh judgement, you’re on the exredpill sub after all. People tend to not like insecure, anxious, desperate vibes. Girls ju…
/r/ExRedPill26/12/24 06:19 PM
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There are plenty of people who have age gap relationships like that and absolutely are not “creeps”, “predators” or “groomers”. Myself included. Go outside.
/r/ExRedPill21/12/24 03:17 PM
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Aha, so considering what you wrote there may be more nuance to this prefrontal cortex thing than I thought. They are definitely less experienced and less developed, that’s for certain and that must be taken into full consideration.
/r/ExRedPill21/12/24 01:03 PM
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I agree with the premise of your video but there’s a big problem with the first point. The whole “the brain doesn’t fully develop until 25” thing is a myth. Those studies arbitrarily ended at 25. The brain actually continues to develop throughout a person’s entire life. I would strongly encourage you to add a retraction and correction notice to your vid because this myth is harmful. This is important because young adults can potentially be more easily exploited, however they are still adults and…
/r/ExRedPill21/12/24 12:05 PM
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These are comments made by children or manchildren. Also plenty of adults conceal carry so what’s he going to do if he assaults the wrong person for calling him what he is?
/r/ExRedPill20/12/24 11:35 PM
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I think my original post makes it abundantly clear that wasn’t what I was saying.
/r/ExRedPill10/12/24 04:39 PM
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Why exactly do you think so many women are divorcing their husbands? Could it be because their husbands are insufferable dickheads and abusers? Why do you think there are so many single moms? Could it be because a lot of guys are manchild deadbeats who run away from responsibility? Why are we only assuming women are to blame here? I come from a broken home and I can tell you with confidence that both of my parents are to blame, but mostly my dad, who just was never interested in being an adult, …
/r/ExRedPill10/12/24 03:54 PM
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The worst. Weird, creepy abusive person who would lie about anything and everything. Serial cheater.
/r/ExRedPill02/10/24 08:45 PM
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There’s definitely an attempt at mass negging going on.
/r/ExRedPill26/09/24 09:58 AM
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Because those women failed to be what they wanted, what they feel entitled to.
/r/ExRedPill22/09/24 08:58 PM
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lol there are former neo-nazis in Antifa, let alone redpillers. Formerly bad people want to be good people, simple as.
/r/ExRedPill02/06/24 11:18 PM
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I have zero evidence for this but in my opinion people were probably less faithful back in the day because way too often people would have to shack up with people that they didn't like at all or even hated. If you were gay you probably had a "really good friend" you'd go "camping" and "fishing" with.
/r/ExRedPill18/01/24 05:54 PM
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The reason your colleagues don't like you is because you're insufferable. Despite what certain internet holes would have you believe, most people don't like bigotry. It's idiotic, gauche and repulsive. You are not an isolated dudebro living on dudebro island, statistically speaking, at least a few of your colleagues, perhaps even ones that you would suspect the least, are LGBTQ+ or have friends who are, so why the Hell would they go out of their way to be friendly to someone who has closed thems…
/r/MenSupportMen17/01/24 02:29 PM
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I got into it before youtube redpillers were even a thing. I think it was actually the redpill subreddit that I was led to first and it just seemed to validate all of the most cynical doubts and beliefs I had.
/r/ExRedPill17/01/24 12:57 PM
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"Body count" is such a grotesque term to use in regards to past sexual partners, so probably yes and if not some misogyny rubbed off on him somewhere. Some men care, some men don't. The academic profile for promiscuous people is not flattering to say the least so it being a concern is understandable but I'm pretty sure your ex would have no problem having sex with tons of women if he could.
/r/ExRedPill08/01/24 05:42 PM
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Sounds pretty similar to me. I just work towards being the best version of myself nowadays.
/r/ExRedPill08/01/24 12:36 PM
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It doesn't matter if someone from that community is occasionally right about something. A broken clock is right twice a day. There are plenty of misogynists who encourage physical fitness, but there are also plenty of decent people who also encourage physical fitness. The incel-esque baggage isn't necessary.
/r/ExRedPill07/01/24 02:07 PM
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Whether certain individuals in question settled or would cheat is irrelevant. Totally different factors to dissect. What is clear though, is that this supposed 80/20 rule just doesn't correlate with the easily verifiable reality.
/r/ExRedPill02/12/23 10:50 AM
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Go to any supermarket during regular working hours. Look around you. Do you see all the couples? Do you see how unremarkable and unattractive most of them are? What more proof do you need?
/r/ExRedPill02/12/23 01:09 AM
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Who on earth gets unconditional love? Children? Pets? Maybe women get more unconditional obsession from stalkers. As a side note, I remember when I was younger really wanting to receive unconditional love from a woman, but in retrospect I am not sure if that would even be a healthy thing or not. Should a certain level of decency not be expected by both parties? The couples who I've known who have something close to an "unconditional love" are toxic slobs. No standards. Also I don't think they lo…
/r/ExRedPill27/11/23 12:04 PM
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It's always been a similar mindset, whether they were aware of it or not.
/r/ExRedPill21/11/23 08:22 PM
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Your life experience is deeply interesting to me and you have a way of writing that communicates what you're feeling really well. Without getting into details, my life has been extremely different from yours but I relate to that hatred and anger. The way you talk though, makes me think that you're also pretty reasonable and open to positive development. I wish you the best and I think you will manage.
/r/ExRedPill05/11/23 08:44 PM
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I share the sentiment of your third paragraph. It's not a scandal nor is it unusual. She's just a woman... existing? In photos with people? Weird to imply more than that and really gross. The real scandal is that she's dating a scumfuck like Logan Paul. Now that's something you can actually judge her badly for but it seems like these people all live in an alternate reality where dating someone like Logan Paul isn't a scadal, but being photographed with with an ex-boyfriend during the time they w…
/r/ExRedPill25/08/23 02:10 PM
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I share the sentiment of your third paragraph. It's not a scandal nor is it unusual. She's just a woman... existing? In photos with people? Weird to imply more than that and really gross. The real scandal is that she's dating a scumfuck like Logan Paul. Now that's something you can actually judge her badly for but it seems like these people all live in an alternate reality where dating someone like Logan Paul isn't a scadal, but being photographed with with an ex-boyfriend during the time they w…
/r/ExRedPill25/08/23 02:10 PM
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You need to improve your reading comprehension.
/r/ExRedPill24/08/23 01:35 PM
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Not sure why I'm being downvoted but a woman like them. A dysfunctional shut-in. They want to be with attractive women, not unattractive ones.
/r/ExRedPill24/08/23 11:12 AM
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Why on earth would they want to date women like that? Would you? Beggars actually can and will be choosers.
/r/ExRedPill23/08/23 09:15 PM
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You can trust women as much as anyone else. That is, wisely with a certain level of caution and an understanding that if someone were to ask stupid blunt questions that put them on the spot, they may not answer truthfully. For example, if you were to ask a woman how important a man's body is in regards to her dating preferences, she will most likely lie. She may lie not only to you but also to herself. It's an awkward personal question. So we use our brains, we don't be sexist and we try our bes…
/r/ExRedPill23/08/23 08:48 PM
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Falling Down is a really odd film. Also one of my past favorites although in retrospect the message came out a bit clumsy and confused. One could argue(and I would) that this was an early film calling out toxic masculinity before there was even a term for such a thing, William Foster is definitely not a good guy, but he doesn't even know why or how. He was just being what allegedly men are supposed to be in society. A sentiment that countless men can relate too. On the other hand, the film does …
/r/ExRedPill13/08/23 04:17 PM
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Your ex WAS a nazi.
/r/ExRedPill10/08/23 09:45 AM
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It's just an attempt at mass gaslighting.
/r/ExRedPill31/07/23 11:35 PM
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Because it's all performative. People in general aren't that stupid and they can tell when someone is acting like a space alien trying to act like a human. I understand that for neurodivergent people this is extra challenging but from his vids that I've watched I would never recommend any neurodivergent person using his teachings to mask, especially when it comes to breaking the touch barrier(do NOT go out of your way to touch people) and having a deep "manly" voice. It's silly garbage info.
/r/ExRedPill31/07/23 08:15 PM
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I genuinely think he's way overconfident about stuff he knows nothing about. Genuine or not, I think following his advice would make anyone come across as a tryhard creep. It's much better to simply engage, pay attention and listen to other people. Pay attention to their demeanor and be self-aware, keeping yours cool and relaxed because why not? What do you have to lose? Take it easy.
/r/ExRedPill31/07/23 07:02 PM
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There wasn't any real one moment. It was a slow process. The pandemic actually helped a lot. Before the pandemic I was working so much that I couldn't do anything besides work, prepare for work and then sleep. The pandemic slowed things down enough where I could actually self-reflect. I spent my downtime during Covid to read about women's experiences here on Reddit. Also women's youtube channels talking about their lived experience. Also I watched Neon Genesis Evangelion and wow was that relevan…
/r/ExRedPill28/07/23 10:54 PM
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At the end of the day, it's up to your judgment. I would look for consistently good behavior. I would see how he reacts when he makes a mistake. How he acts as opposed to what he says. As a former redpiller turned Feminist over the course of years, I'm still on the outskirts. The women I disrespected in the past are not going out of their way to catch up with me. Women in general are not trying to chat me up or engage with me in any way(although a few do, at least a little). And that's fine. I m…
/r/ExRedPill28/07/23 11:01 AM
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"There's a lot of people saying-" Who is saying it? Angry incels and mgtow uncles on the internet? All actual studies indicate that people in general are having way less sex than ever, not just Gen Z and not just the guys. Why would people want to have sex now? Have you been outside recently? It sucks. How's your bank account looking? Living situation? Employment? Future plans? Don't bother answering those questions they're not specifically directed towards you, people in general do not have sex…
/r/ExRedPill27/07/23 09:48 AM
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I am not a fan. I don't think sex work elevates anyone involved in it from consumer to provider. I would not want anyone I care about to engage in sex work. Exploitation is a feature, not a bug. I do not view pornography anymore for this reason. With that being said, sex work is work and workers deserve rights and protections.
/r/ExRedPill24/07/23 03:00 PM
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I don't date at all and I don't care. Me fixing myself up sure didn't mean that the women around me suddenly fixed themselves up. They can spiral into squalor without me.
/r/ExRedPill18/05/23 07:57 PM
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Unfortunately The Matrix along with 1984, Fight Club, V for Vendetta and other similar media draws in idiot psuedo-intellectuals. I knew a guy like that and all he took from The Matrix was, "whoa, the world really is full of mindless sheep who refuse to look at the TRUTH" what the "truth" was exactly he couldn't tell you but he would mumble something under his breath about the Illuminati if you asked him. I'm not going to lie, I used to be like that too at one stage of my life.
/r/ExRedPill08/04/23 06:37 AM
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lmao it's literally phrenology. Pure pseudoscience.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/23 08:05 AM
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Honestly? I don't like a lot of them. If I think about all the women I've known in my life I have to say that I'm wholly unimpressed and uninterested in most of them. I have known violent abusers and rapists who were women. Emotional manipulators that left me with trauma I don't even know how to process. I don't put them on a pedestal anymore but I also don't demonize them. They are all flawed people and I think in the past I treated them like angels or vipers and they are neither, they are peop…
/r/ExRedPill14/03/23 06:37 AM
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The truth is that people do tend to like other people who are genuinely kind with no ulterior motive. "Nice guys" aren't that. "Nice guys" are transparent in their ulterior motives and boring. I used to be a "nice guy". I had absolutely nothing going for me. Most "nice guys" don't see the point in getting a haircut on the regular but they will awkwardly pull out a woman's seat and not understand why she doesn't want to have sex with him. "Nice guys" are incredibly arrogant. They think they deser…
/r/ExRedPill12/03/23 09:54 PM
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I don't know if it's the entire reason but it's certainly part of the reason.
/r/ExRedPill11/03/23 05:12 PM
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Certain women need to stop being willfully obtuse about the kind of men they choose to have sex with. Misogynists should not be appeased or humored. Misogynists should not be having sex with women. I can have sympathy for teenagers and young adults who get burned but at a certain age people need to start being a bit more observant and selective. Any fully grown adult woman who lacks the self-respect in order to stay out of the beds of bigots is not someone I would go out of my way to defend.
/r/ExRedPill17/02/23 06:45 PM
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In their mind, a man """needs""" to fuck women so they have two categories for women. Or castes if you prefer. Wife material, and those other women who are just for one night stands. This mentality among men is actually VERY common and it's not a new phenomenon at all so I also can't say I feel that sorry for the women who sleep with such men and then to their shock and surprise, later find out they aren't particularly respected or well-regarded.
/r/ExRedPill17/02/23 10:55 AM
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Unfortunately, yes. People like this are living in a totally different reality. I have the same issue with a friend of mine who is also in his 30's, should and has every opportunity to know better, but has been actively choosing to be stupid. His inappropriate outbursts are exhausting, he unloads emotional labor onto people out of nowhere. Everyone around him is put off and he is about to get kicked out of his flat by his roommate because of his behavior. Spending time with him is like having to…
/r/ExRedPill01/12/22 11:44 AM
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There is "sexually liberated" and then there is "wildly irresponsible". Using group sex to cope with depression falls into the latter. Don't get it twisted.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 08:34 AM
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It's purely up to you. Be honest with yourself, is this a dealbreaker or not? Is she the same person today as she was then? If she really is a different person is that enough for you? You also need to understand why you feel the way you do. For me it's because regardless of what people say here, that is wildly, insanely irresponsible behavior. Sex is often a high risk activity for women and any woman who would jump to that extreme of sexual behavior as a coping mechanism is just not for me. Howe…
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 08:33 AM
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It literally is that simple. Decide what your values are and make a choice. I can tell you though that the skeevy hedonist life tends to lose a lot of its lustre at a certain age. i.e. all those weird, burnt out, wrinkled 40+ old people I still see going to clubs targeted to 20 somethings who seemed to have stopped developing emotionally somewhere in highschool. I know a man who lived a very similar life like yours. His adult son has disowned him. You can take a few guesses as to why. If cheatin…
/r/ExRedPill27/11/22 11:05 AM
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In short, it's a scam. To elaborate, they are probably trying to sell you a useless something. Perhaps e-books filled with plagiarized motivational bootstraps nonsense, MLM schemes, NFTs, etc. It also draws in the desperate(need money fast), the arrogant(I'm smarter than others so I can succeed at this), the gullible(doesn't know when offers sound too good to be true), the greedy(I need more more more), the ignorant(Capitalism is the best system ever!) etc. Basically it draws in deeply flawed pe…
/r/ExRedPill24/11/22 11:35 PM
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If you are a potential future customer then you belong there. Go in remembering that fact. Those boutiques kind of exist as 3D ad space, it's all by design, people look at stuff in those places that they might and often will buy 10 years down the line all the time. Also feel free to dress up a bit if it will make you feel more in place.
/r/ExRedPill22/11/22 11:32 AM
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Some things that comes to mind. Extreme cynicism, allusion to conspiracies, presenting themselves as having "special secret knowledge", mention of others being "too sensitive", speaks in vague terms, use of psuedoscience(alphamale, betamale, etc.), treating gender and racial demographics as a monolith, allusion to "true" men and women, outrage bait, cherry picking fringe examples, discouraging therapy. Also a big one, stringing people along with bullshit instead of just saying what they want to …
/r/ExRedPill19/11/22 03:33 PM
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He's one of those guys that is so arrogant that he can't even register the idea of ever being wrong about something. His entire rise to fame was his response to a bill he misinterpreted. He's very similar to Kanye West tbh. Head way shoved up his ass, living in his own world. Also just because he's not as misogynistic as Tate or others doesn't mean that he's not very misogynistic. Molten lava isn't nearly as hot as the surface of the sun but that doesn't mean lava is cold. It's still dangerously…
/r/ExRedPill19/11/22 12:55 AM
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Lets be real, brotherman. First off, is it easy? No. Oversaturated market. Toxic, skeevy and highly stigmatized. Your content can and will get stolen. Very low respect profession. Harassment. Stalkers. Assorted obsessive mentally ill people who are possibly dangerous. Also it IS work, these women don't just take one or two pics and wait for the bucks to roll in. You'd probably have to set up a home studio. Also all the makeup, shaving, fasting and so on and so forth. There's probably more issues…
/r/ExRedPill19/11/22 12:10 AM
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You explained it way better than I did. I'm beyond annoyed at these guys, who probably think that "people are too sensitive these days" going "CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS RANDOM WOMAN SAID THIS? MEN CAN'T DO ANYTHING ANYMORE. etc." I know a fully grown adult man in his 30's who is like this and is about to get kicked out of his flat by his roommate because she can't stand his immature outbursts anymore. It's ridiculous behavior. These guys need to get a hobby.
/r/ExRedPill17/11/22 10:17 AM
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Actually, I think it's carefully curated rage bait content like what you posted that's doing it. What did I see here? 10 seconds of some probably low level discussion regarding boundaries? If that's what it was even about? I'm a functional adult and therefore not stupid enough to get radicalized into being a misandrist by something some woman maybe said on some trashy daytime talkshow. Some teenager or immature adult man certainly might though. The fact of the matter is that a lot of men are sti…
/r/ExRedPill17/11/22 09:59 AM
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It looks to me like you wrote that post under the assumption that I was saying that men are inherently worse than women and that's absolutely not what I was saying. You've also garnished it with some other self-victmizing assumptions. It's very undignified, please don't do that. If you actually read my post as opposed to manufacturing a more comfortable narrative for yourself, you'd understand that I was saying that the problems have to do with male socialization and Capitalism.
/r/ExRedPill14/11/22 11:04 AM
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If they were just talking about being lonely, then yeah I'd get it. But this cloying demand for sex is so pathetic.
/r/ExRedPill14/11/22 10:22 AM
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A lot of men just don't know how or don't care to do the bare minimum when it comes to engaging with others. Especially women. If you ask a woman how often, not "if ever" but "how often" a man has crossed their boundaries or harassed them there will usually be too many times to count. Just because men may act a certain way around us as fellow men does not necessarily mean they act the same way around women. I ended a friendship I had with a guy I knew for almost a decade because while he seemed …
/r/ExRedPill12/11/22 05:29 PM
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I'm not sure if he's an idiot or if he's just pretending to be an idiot to appeal to his demographic. Either way he's a loser.
/r/ExRedPill12/11/22 04:29 PM
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Ask women.
/r/ExRedPill12/11/22 04:02 PM
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I think that's all a load of bullshit to be quite frank. I think the real reason is that most men absolutely suck as romantic and/or sexual partners, women don't want to deal with them and that's that. To be honest, women in general are not by comparison incredibly wonderful people, in fact I think most of them are also pretty insufferable but just from the sample size of all the men and women I've ever known, men are so much worse by a huge margin. Combine that with how information spreads onli…
/r/ExRedPill11/11/22 11:57 AM
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I don't know if most, but definitely a ton and the reason being that men are socialized to ONLY seek sexual affection. So I think a lot of men get confused.
/r/ExRedPill11/11/22 11:39 AM
1

As far as I'm concerned, finding a compatible partner on those apps is akin to winning a lottery. Can it happen? Yes. Is it likely to happen? No. Are there things you can do to increase your chances? Yes. Is anything guaranteed? No.
/r/ExRedPill01/11/22 09:25 PM
3

He might be narcissistic, vain and insecure. He might not. But if this hypothetical person is, then nobody's perfect. Those flaws WILL be a dealbreaker for some women, others might not mind depending on the severity of those flaws.
/r/ExRedPill26/10/22 07:24 PM
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Personality is and always will be king. It's not just something they say to make conventionally unattractive people feel better. It is an eternal truth. Personality often also extends to how a person looks. That guy with the great gym body? He wasn't born like that. That took discipline, persistence and organizational skills. All a part of his personality.
/r/ExRedPill26/10/22 12:57 PM
5

That thing about them making up their own way they think the world works is so spot on. I have talked to so many men who are just living in parallel realities because "that's how it is". They don't think for a second that they could actually be misinformed about something. Sometimes they will even refuse to just look up the definition of a word because "they know what it means"(they don't). Totally insufferable dips. Jordan Peterson does the same thing.
/r/ExRedPill05/10/22 10:47 AM
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My guy, you are not "successful academically" you are still working on getting a Philosophy PHD, something you will struggle with unless you get a clue and develop some social and emotional intelligence which I can see that you totally lack. You saying that you are "successful academically" at this point is like an unemployed person saying they are an "entrepreneur". These people of "lesser intelligence" are clearly socially smarter than you as they are managing to interact with women without im…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/22 10:39 AM
4

Probably shouldn't have abused and neglected me. 🤷‍♂️
/r/ExRedPill01/10/22 11:49 AM
5

OP, do you really believe all that or are you trying to believe all that? There are quite a few reasons why men tend to go after younger women and rarely are they wholesome.
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 09:14 AM
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No, I wasn't being daft. I was just trying to make you realize how nonsensical your worldview is. Because according to you it sounds like women are putting in a tremendous amount of work to orchestrate some massive global movement in order to... be lazy. If they wanted to do that they could just... be lazy instead. People who want to avoid working don't tend to try really hard to become employed. They definitely don't organize social movements in order to find more work if they're not interested…
/r/ExRedPill25/09/22 10:51 PM
1

If these women don't want to work then why are they also making quotas for themselves? 🤔
/r/ExRedPill25/09/22 09:07 PM
1

Don't you think men do this too? I've seen guys do this all the time albeit in different ways. There are plenty of skeevy yes men in the world. Doing their own version of sucking up to people with money and power.
/r/ExRedPill24/09/22 11:46 PM
3

Women are not a monolith. The existence of women who are shallow opportunists doesn't surprise me.
/r/ExRedPill24/09/22 09:19 PM
2

The thing is, "nice girls" much like their "nice guy" equivalent, usually aren't very nice. At all. I have known only one "nice girl" and I made the mistake of giving her a chance. She was so insecure and toxic. You couldn't tell her anything because she would gossip about it to anyone who would listen. She had a temper and would always take the least charitable interpretation of anything you would say. Totally insufferable. I eventually ghosted her after she kept fishing for personal and sensit…
/r/ExRedPill13/09/22 06:34 AM
0

Women are constantly at code yellow at all times. They have to be. That's why then tend to avoid smiling at or making eye contact with men they don't know because there are people who have been trying to approach them with ill intent since they were children. That's how they navigate the world. They do it all the time. The threat of sexual violence is something that they have had to turn into a subconscious reflex. They already practice plenty of awareness. Yeah your opinions were wrong and ill-…
/r/ExRedPill12/09/22 08:59 PM
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It's a terrible idea. There is no reason to wait to try and find a partner and delay social experience. You might have failed relationships but that's normal. Relationships fail. Happens all the time. Hopefully a person will be able to learn from and reflect on their failed relationships and become better people while aquiring better social skills. The only time I would encourage someone to abstain from finding a partner even if they really wanted one is if they were abusers or totally underpriv…
/r/ExRedPill09/09/22 07:00 PM
12

I can't imagine anything anyone could have against his methods.
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 09:19 AM
6

The HealthyGamerGG youtube channel with Dr. K is pretty great for this. Helped my life so much.
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 08:48 AM
3

Sorry but your post is too uninformed to the point it's like a knotted pile of Christmas lights I just can't deal with. It's a really bad comment and I don't have the energy to correct you so instead I will ask you to consider the power dynamic between men and women. There's always some statistics bro in the comments that thinks that he's done something amazing when he hasn't considered that those stats for what is violent don't have any nuance to them, nor are they global. Most men are not afra…
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 08:17 AM
21

There is no such thing as a "beta male". There aren't even "beta wolves". The whole thing was based off a flawed and redacted study on wolves in captivity.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 10:33 PM
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You can probably have sex sometime this month if you really wanted too. All you would have to do is clean up real good, get some trendy fast fashion planet destroying outfit, become a regular at your local dive bar or skeevy club and finally and most importantly, lower your standards. No I mean lower. A lot lower. More. Way more than that. Ok imagine the lowest possible standards. Now try to imagine even lower than that. There we go. Sound appealing? I hope it doesn't. But you could try that. I …
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 10:28 PM
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My point is that dating and sex is not the be all end all of the human experience. I've done both and most of the time it was absolutely subpar. And the only person I did enjoy having sex with ended up being an abuser who messed up my life so badly that more than 10 years later I'm still dealing with the aftermath. That's my experience. There is nothing more pathetic and adolescent than putting sex and dating on a pedestal. It's not that big of a deal. Go on an adventure. Go get a hobby. Maybe y…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 09:50 PM
3

Do you think that monks who've taken vows of celibacy have no experiences? They lived lives. They had experiences. Not the same experiences that a prostitute had but they had experiences.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 09:12 PM
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If you were to explain how women have it on "easy mode" among other things you said to a group of women they would look at you as if you were the most stupid and clueless person alive. Just because the female experience is often a different experience does NOT mean that it's an easy one. There is a reason why most women do not go out for walks alone at night.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 08:58 PM
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Tbh it's a pretty crude phrase and clearly comes from a place of anger and frustration on the part of women. Those feelings are understandable though, a lot of guys do need to get the hint and become aware of the fact that women get way too much unwanted attention. I'd say don't put yourself down but do be aware of the above fact. Take into consideration all of the creepy, cloying, possibly even dangerous guys who could also be in that woman's DMs and take being rejected or ignored with grace. I…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 06:00 AM
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Yes. And if a woman disagrees then don't worry, they will have no problem "correcting" her. "Uhm, akschully, you like older well-established men. It's biology." etc.
/r/ExRedPill03/09/22 07:45 PM
48

It's literally just an attempted form of mass gaslighting.
/r/ExRedPill03/09/22 05:32 PM
2

I guarantee you Myrion would come out thinking he was a winner no matter how much he got clowned on.
/r/ExRedPill01/09/22 07:33 PM
5

A belligerent idiot dudebro talking over intoxicated women isn't "winning debates". I too could find a group of women who have way too much free time on their hands, loudly and rudely talk over them and "win" debates. This isn't a skill, this is something his parents should have taught him not to do in kindergarten. lmao get out of here.
/r/ExRedPill01/09/22 07:32 PM
1

Who may I ask, are the actual perpetrators?
/r/ExRedPill01/09/22 04:34 PM
1

Everyone here wants to help men. That is the entire reason this subreddit wqs created. Almost everyone here is a man that is working on bettering themselves.
/r/ExRedPill01/09/22 08:22 AM
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I guess you haven't spent much time here at all, OP.
/r/ExRedPill31/08/22 10:49 PM
3

This probably exists only in my memory now, because I'm pretty sure they scrubbed it from the internet so you might just have to take my word for it. But I remember seeing on the MGTOW forums a dating app they were developing called "Good Men". The idea was so when women asked "Where have all the good men gone?" they could conveniently find all the MGTOW guys on "Good Men" where maybe, possibly, they might be willing to give these women a chance...
/r/ExRedPill29/08/22 07:55 PM
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Former MGTOW speaking here. If you want to "go your own way" so to speak, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. If you don't want to engage with women in any romantic or sexual way, that's perfectly fine. In fact it might be great for you. With all that extra time, money, space and energy you might be able to sort yourself out quite nicely. I am living that life and I much prefer it to when I was in relationships with abusers and flakes. However I would absolutely not recommend you have an…
/r/ExRedPill28/08/22 10:57 PM
1

Sounds like me at 17. I'm sorry you're really struggling and I hope it gets better. I do think people not fitting in for whatever reason can lead to radicalization. The Alt-Right for example recruited from the large pool of isolated, socially marginalized men who had nothing going on in their lives.
/r/ExRedPill28/08/22 09:20 AM
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Pretty alarming if he's popular with your students. You don't need to know much if you're in this subreddit. He just spouts every redpiller talking point thst you can imagine. Also he's a serial abuser.
/r/ExRedPill26/08/22 12:41 AM
2

I was in a similar situation. I am 32 now. In the past five years I'd say I've lost about seven different "friends", family members and many more acquaintances. We were all getting older and back then we were all bigoted, immature pieces of shit, however I was maturing and turning into a better person and they weren't. Some of them were in fact getting worse. As the divide between me and them became more clear some started to become, perhaps subconsciously, resentful. They were uncomfortable. Th…
/r/ExRedPill25/08/22 10:16 AM
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Some may have been raised by single moms who were abusive and/or some may have had horrible ex-girlfriends who later hooked up with other guys and later became single moms. They probably also see single moms as "useless women" since there is no way they would be willing to get involved in a child's life in any way. There is also that "alpha fucks beta bucks" mythology that they've created for themselves. I also think some haven't had any of these experiences at all and just agree with what redpi…
/r/ExRedPill23/08/22 11:00 PM
2

They are oxygen thieves. I'm totally ok with never seeing them again unless they reform themselves.
/r/ExRedPill23/08/22 06:19 PM
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He's a massive loser and I think it's funny. He had no business spewing his toxic nonsense and scamming people. But at the end of the day, he's just a symptom of the problem, not the cause.
/r/ExRedPill20/08/22 08:03 PM
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It's not so much that more men need to be "more like women" it's that many men need to not be like emotionally stunted boys. Men don't necessarily need to be like women, they need to be like respectable adults. As a 32 year old man myself, it would be deeply embarrassing if another guy in my age bracket started spewing dudebro tits and ass speak or if they did boomer style I hate my wife jokes. It's really not that difficult to be cordial and refined, but when base and juvenile behavior is norma…
/r/ExRedPill19/08/22 10:51 AM
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Nothing.
/r/ExRedPill16/08/22 07:37 PM
4

Again, that's not what I wrote. You are literally hallucinating words on the screen at this point. Go to sleep.
/r/ExRedPill16/08/22 12:54 AM
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No, you're making assumptions again. I'm not an idiot. Women are not angels. A lot of women are horrible human beings. I would know, I've mostly worked with women. I have had a woman boss try and fail to steal money from me. I have been sexually abused by women. All the women in my family were either abusers or enablers. Trust me, I do not have any rose-tinted glasses when it comes to women. However this wasn't a thread about women, it was a thread about men. Specifically about men's behavior an…
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 11:35 PM
4

You can scroll back up to the top and see that I always had written "a lot of guys". Do you feel personally called out for your own bad behavior or what? Learn to listen and read as opposed to having hyper-defensive rants that are only vaguely, tangentially related to what people were talking about. Acknowledging that men are in general poorly socialized is not a "radfem" take it's a "anybody who has had to work in a professional environment where social skills matter" take. It's a "any woman wh…
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 11:21 PM
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Virtually every and all predominant culture in the Western world supports the emancipation of women. If they didn't Trump would have gotten a second term. But he didn't. People are tired of shitty people. People are tired of being shitty. Most people want to move on.
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 10:52 PM
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Men getting angry and defensive when talking about the perpetual mistreatment of women is not unusual. Those men need to do some introspection and sort themselves out and they definitely need to stay far away from women until they do. It doesn't matter if it's most men, it's way too many. And every man I have ever known, myself included, has crossed a line at some point even if it wasn't in the realm of the illegal. We're all products of our environment and I can guarantee EVERYONE in this subre…
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 10:23 PM
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Then you're setting yourself up for failure. Women don't need to believe it. They experience it. Those creey DMs they get aren't appearing out of the void. They are being written by men.
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 09:51 PM
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Like, you shouldn't. Toxic masculinity and patriarchy are not mysterious fringe theories, it's the status quo.
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 06:27 PM
12

Do you think someone like Trump could have ever been elected president if we didn't have a serious problem? We have a problem. Putin, Orban, all the misogynistic ghouls running things in India and the Middle East. It doesn't matter if they adhere to these ideologies or not. There is clearly a problem with a lot of men.
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 06:23 PM
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Do you think someone like Trump could have been ever elected president if we didn't have a serious problem? We have a problem.
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 06:22 PM
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Do you think someone like Trump could have been ever elected president if we didn't have a serious problem? We have a problem.
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 06:22 PM
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If men in general didn't greatly struggle socially do you think we would be in the situation we're in now? Do you know what subreddit we are in? The whole redpill/mgtow/sigma/alt-right/incel garbage all comes from the same source.
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 05:49 PM
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I love myself. You're making up a narrative in your head to avoid looking at the issue at hand.
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 05:41 PM
21

You'll need to get over yourself. Ask any woman how many times a man has made her uncomfortable. Not "if" but "how many". The answer is always way too many. Men in general are poorly socialized, this needs to be acknowledged and faced or else guys will go throughout their lives oblivious to the fact that decent people want nothing to do with them.
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 05:18 PM
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Mind you that in my post I said a lot, not necessarily most. I have a friend group that's compromised almost exclusively of men. But there are men who would not be welcome into that friend group for good reasons.
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 02:54 PM
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My friend, a lot of these guys straight up stink. Is my nose demonizing men or do a lot of guys need to get their shit together and start practicing basic hygiene?
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 02:49 PM
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OP, I've got some really bad news for you. The "bar" people are talking about isn't it regards to dating, it's in regards to just being tolerable. A lot of men, absolutely suck. They are totally insufferable in every way. You're thinking about boyfriends but I'm thinking how I don't even want to sit next to a lot of men on a train, let alone interact with one. For the record I'm a cis het guy. God forbid how women must feel about these men.
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 02:18 PM
2

That whiny loser is still around???
/r/ExRedPill14/08/22 10:16 AM
9

If someone is a trash person usually only other trash people will hang around them. A lot of these people have essentially created their own world in a way. They can think that "all women are like that" because the women who are like that are the only ones who will tolerate them. I used to be a hardcore, and I mean hardcore alcoholic. I was way more often drunk than not on the daily. The only places where my sloppy, distressing looking self didn't get weird stares was only in the worst of dive b…
/r/ExRedPill12/08/22 09:51 AM
6

There are naive women out there who will think that he's "just being funny" until eventually(hopefully) they realize he isn't.
/r/ExRedPill12/08/22 09:38 AM
6

Whaaaat? You mean you AREN'T constantly in some passive-aggressive manipulative dance with yout wife? Bro you gotta keep those pyramid scheme style manipulative sales tactics going or else what are you even doing??? /s
/r/ExRedPill12/08/22 09:36 AM
0

Ok, are you talking about nofap? When I was at an extraordinarily low point in my life I tried it off an on, the longest I went was a month. There is absolutely no reason to do this. It will probably just frustrate you for no reason. However I did quit porn around 5 years ago and that was probably one of the best decisions of my life. Also if you want, try not masturbating for only one day, see if that agitates you enough into washing those dishes that have been piling up. Sometimes a change in …
/r/ExRedPill11/08/22 11:58 AM
1

I'm not buying it.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 04:34 PM
3

If someone gets off to humiliating and degrading themselves them I don't understand how that could'nt severely affect their self-esteem.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 02:46 PM
1

I think that's self-explanatory.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 02:34 PM
3

I really question anyone who is into degradation and humiliation. Sounds alarming.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 01:47 PM
10

I think it's probably really unhealthy. Not all kinks should be indulged in. They should go to therapy. Also don't get me started when race comes into the picture.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 12:25 PM
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When redpillers talk about """the wall""" they are just attempting a kind of mass gaslighting combined with normalizing their unhealthy, creepy, predatory fixation with younger women. It's like "Whoa you're about to hit the wall! You better hurry up and settle for an abysmal misogynistic dudebro like me as fast as possible! Speaking of that... did I tell you I'm currently single?" It's a form of abuse. Them making you feel insecure the way you're feeling now is exactly how they want you to feel …
/r/ExRedPill08/08/22 11:22 PM
3

I think eventually we will. Their mentality is not sustainable. Some guys will die wrong and bitter but I have hope that reality will sink in eventually for most.
/r/ExRedPill03/08/22 02:04 PM
10

"The cure for AWALT is to stop providing incentives and rewards for the women who do act badly. Don't be afraid to cut ties on the spot if she behaves like some woman in a Red Pill nightmare story (and they do exist). If more men avoid these women, they will stop behaving like this." Yes, this right here. Absolutely. There is absolutely no reason for any person to put up with that. I don't care how hot you think she is, she won't be hot forever and she'll stop being hot much sooner than you thin…
/r/ExRedPill03/08/22 09:48 AM
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People cheat because they're fallible. Being cheated on his horrible and in most circumstances I consider it a form of abuse(there are some outliers where a person is trapped in an abusive marriage and they end up falling in love with someone else, I still don't like it but there is some nuance there). I suspect a lot of redpillers were deeply hurt at some point by someone cheating on them and they never processed it properly so "all women cheat because it's their nature and u gotta be ALFA" non…
/r/ExRedPill01/08/22 09:49 PM
4

The alpha/beta thing was based on a discredited and redacted study on wolves in captivity. So no, absolutely ZERO correlation to reality whatsoever. However, status is a very real thing even though redpillers get that wrong all the time too. Who do you think I value more? The male friend who respects women, doesn't creep on them and creates a safe environment for women to interact with us or the skeevy incel who can't interact with a woman without making her offended or afraid? RPers think statu…
/r/ExRedPill31/07/22 08:50 AM
2

The alpha/beta thing was based on a discredited and redacted wolf study. It's not real, it's total fiction with no basis in reality. Stop referring to yourself as a beta, you might as well be referring to yourself as a centaur. It's not real. It's fantasy.
/r/ExRedPill27/07/22 12:57 PM
1

There are some good comments in this thread but I'm going to take a slightly different approach that may or may not appeal to you more. I also don't like promiscuous people. I don't spend time with such people. I also don't spend a lot of time thinking about them. I don't care about them. So why should you? Why are you wasting that much energy doing that instead of taking care of yourself? Don't waste your energy with hate. It is a totally unproductive emotion that just burns people out at best …
/r/ExRedPill27/07/22 11:37 AM
6

We need to generate some healthy real life communities for men. Part of the appeal of these groups and worse ones is that it becomes a sort of "team sport" and that has a huge appeal.
/r/ExRedPill19/07/22 09:05 PM
1

There are definitely women out there who have been brain poisoned to look at every man in the same way one would look at a potential used car purchase. Same with men. However when it comes to making healthy connections with people, not just romantic ones, it's way more important to see how you actually feel around a person. There are plenty of skilled people who are also godawful human beings. Good for them(I guess?), they can go do things. Far away from me. There are so many positive attributes…
/r/ExRedPill19/07/22 06:57 PM
6

If that was the case then almost every woman on the planet would be lusting after Jeff Bezos, Vladimir Putin and Elon Musk. There are some women who like those men. Disgusting, reprehensible women who like men like that. But by and large most women find men like that deeply repulsive despite all their wealth.
/r/ExRedPill19/07/22 06:31 PM
5

Go to any supermarket and look at the women around you. All of the women. How many women there are "good enough" for you? When people say things like this, they always have certain women in mind. They are thinking of women that they find attractive or at the very least they are thinking of a conventionally attractive archetype. Always. They are not thinking of the women they are not attracted to at all. They are not thinking of the kind of women that are practically invisible to them. They don't…
/r/ExRedPill19/07/22 06:09 PM
1

If you look through my post history you would never, ever, EVER get the impression that I thought it was easy for men to get dates. Who told you that we did?
/r/ExRedPill15/07/22 10:29 AM
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I think it's just a form of gaslighting honestly. They're trying to set a narrative. "Oh, you're almost 30. You better hurry up and settle down with a mediocre emotionally immature dudebro like me before your SMV drops and nobody wants you!" Very skeevy.
/r/ExRedPill15/07/22 04:48 AM
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You can drop all the redpill details. Do looks matter? Of course they do, but "looks" is a vague word and many men online got really confused and started talking about wrist circumference, """hunter eyes""", jawline measurements and all kinds of incel nonsense. So instead let's be clear. Your presentation and demeanour matters. Your hygiene matters. Your clothing matters. Your style matters. They are far from being the only thing that matters but they absolutely do. If a man had the demeanor of …
/r/ExRedPill13/07/22 06:18 PM
3

Total BS based on a discredited study on wolves in captivity.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/22 05:53 PM
3

It's pseudo intellectual misogynistic nonsense that sounds true to cynical men, especially younger men because "if it hurts it's true"(another ultra cyclist line that does not reflect reality). Life is full of struggle and pain and it doesn't surprise me that so many guys fell into this thinking but yeah it is not true. Not even close. What does it even mean to love "opportunistically" it doesn't make sense.
/r/ExRedPill09/07/22 10:53 PM
8

A few do. But honestly I think this idea is mostly projection from redpillers who are actually the deeply insecure, deeply afraid of being alone ones. A lot of men are really socially isolated and emotionally immature so I think that fear grips them while also kinda sorta trying to gaslight women into think that actually they are the ones who need a man NOW and they might as well settle for redpill Joe Random over here. I'm a cis white het guy, and for me it was absolutely devastating when I rea…
/r/ExRedPill07/07/22 07:54 PM
10

It's not just delusional and creepy it's also a form of mass gaslighting. They are trying to set a narrative that would encourage women to shack up earlier and also overlook how predatory that worldview is. "Oh no I'm almost past my prime! By 19 I'll be a hag! I better marry this 50 year old dude!" They wish that was the norm.
/r/ExRedPill29/06/22 01:48 PM
6

Nope.
/r/ExRedPill28/06/22 08:30 AM
4

You absolutely don't have to and it's unhealthy when people think they "have to" be in a relationship.
/r/ExRedPill26/06/22 11:50 AM
8

My brother in Reddit, there is no such thing as "alpha" or "beta" men or whatever. That whole thing was based off a flawed and redacted study on wolves in captivity. We are just men. That's it.
/r/ExRedPill12/06/22 12:12 PM
4

Those dating profile experients are tremendously flawed. Yes, if you use a picture of some incredibly hot guy you are going to get a lot of matches by curious women wondering if you are for real or not. Healthy looking(mentally and physically) people who look like they actually have their lives together are attractive. Incels think it's about jawlines or wrist circumferences or something but there are a tremendous amount of factors that can make a person attractive or not and even the most attra…
/r/ExRedPill08/06/22 12:41 PM
12

I have been telling incels and redpillers this for ages. Just got to any supermarket and look around. Just look at the people. I guess this is just another way of telling someone to touch grass but in a more helpful way but it amazes me the kinds of wrong ideas we humans can get into our heads.
/r/ExRedPill07/06/22 12:20 PM
10

This is a kind of intermittent reinforcement. It's the same thing that keeps certain people addicted to slot machines. Read up on this and you'll realize how common it is. It's a type of abuse and the people who do it are horrible even though sometimes they don't realize they're doing it. Definitely worth reading up on so you can know when people are trying to do it to you.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 09:54 PM
17

Porn and narcissistic dudebro culture. I remember so many guys growing up who had completely deluded themselves into thinking that they were irresistible to women. Did they have any women approaching them or even showing any interest? Weeeeeelll nooooooo but somehow they still thought that they were exactly what women wanted.
/r/ExRedPill29/05/22 10:17 AM
8

It's not the 90's anymore and the internet and our collective values getting better has shown us that a lot of celebrities really are godawful people. Not all of them, but a lot of them. Never meet your heroes.
/r/ExRedPill29/05/22 08:07 AM
1

HealthyGamerGG youtube channel with Dr. K. So helpful.
/r/ExRedPill26/05/22 08:56 AM
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I have a hypothesis. I think these men are willing to accept these "harsh truths" because they actually aren't that harsh. RP stuff boils down to all women being stupid and evil. Which is quite fortunate for the men who don't have to do much introspection. The real harsh truth is that these men are absolutely awful people. They're the bad guy. And not a "cool" bad guy like Scarface or something but a creep more like Mamoru Uchida from Perfect Blue. There's not a guy on the planet who is like tha…
/r/ExRedPill21/05/22 10:30 PM
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Very rural. However I live next to a city that had a pretty decent population size. It's just that it's a pretty skeevy city and that's about it.
/r/ExRedPill15/05/22 03:26 PM
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You're presuming that most people actually are lying you. Some people will, because they are trying to be polite, or you have put them in an awkward position, etc. For example this past week my family had a guest and she was complaining that her friends said that she had gained weight. My parents said "no". Although she very much had gained weight. This family friend is a bit socially inept and doesn't understand that perhaps putting people on the spot like that is not a good idea. What are they…
/r/ExRedPill15/05/22 09:31 AM
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Hey I mostly entirely agree with you but I do not know where these "serious" women are that you are talking about. At least where I live most women in their 30's are absolute train wrecks so I avoid them and keep my distance.
/r/ExRedPill15/05/22 09:09 AM
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Philosophytube, especially the video on men. Contrapoints, also the video on men. HealthyGamerGG, Shaun.
/r/ExRedPill12/05/22 09:36 AM
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A few do. That's the real answer. Not much to it. I will add that it's most certainly WAAAAAAAAY fewer than what redpillers or the like would have you believe. But a few do, yes. And some that do aren't even aware that they're doing it.
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 09:25 AM
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All women? There are absolutely women who share your interests. Or even your potential future interests. Or if not exactly those, then they may find your increased worldliness attractive. For example, over these past two years I got interested in fragrances, then business casual clothing and then watches. Now do I know any women who like these things like I do? No. Do the women around me appreciate how I smell and my improved sense of style. Yes. Being a multifaceted individual is a good thing. …
/r/ExRedPill02/05/22 08:03 PM
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I don't know what the current state of Hearthstone is but I found it a bit overly simple compared to what it could be. With MtG though you do have a chance to meet real people over a common interest, again, probably not many women at your local game shop unfortunately but real socialising can do wonders for mental health especially when it feels like there's less and less opportunity to do so every day.
/r/ExRedPill02/05/22 07:55 PM
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I did it for a month, years ago when it was a meme. Could, perhaps not masturbating for a short while encourage you to change your routine in a positive way? Maybe. Masturbation is good for your health. Porn not so much. Porn I quit 4 years ago and I would say that definitely had a positive effect on me.
/r/ExRedPill02/05/22 11:29 AM
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I'm going to be straight with you. When you tell me that guys in highschool with girlfriends were douchebags, I'm willing to believe that you are probably right about most of them. Here's the catch though, odds are you were way worse than you remember and probably not nearly as kind as you thought you were. Those douchebags(assuming they actually were) had something to offer, whatever it was, it was at the very least enough to get a temporary girlfriend. Probably not enough for a long term relat…
/r/ExRedPill01/05/22 05:43 PM
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Why not self-improve for yourself and your own optimization?
/r/ExRedPill01/05/22 05:30 PM
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This is true, I didn't think of it and it definitely plays a part however I am not convinced that these men in particular are asked put off by hook-up culture as much as they are put off off by the fact that they aren't hooking up with as many women as they'd like to.
/r/ExRedPill01/05/22 07:29 AM
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The same reason why more out of touch teenage weebs think Japan is an anime utopia. And if they were to only to live there then their lives would be perfect and they would be fully accepted, inappropriate behavior and all. Redpillers are familiar with "western women" in the sense that they are familiar with getting justifiably rejected and looked at like scum by those women. The East is foreign, exotic, mysterious and the redpiller has met fewer of those women, so they're easier to dream about. …
/r/ExRedPill01/05/22 07:24 AM
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I think men who had one or more experiences with a woman who had borderline personality disorder will do it too.
/r/ExRedPill29/04/22 05:21 AM
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Yeah, those youtubers suck. Watch HealthyGamerGG instead.
/r/ExRedPill28/04/22 05:20 PM
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I am a man and I agree with those top comments entirely though. So it's not just the opinions of women, they are the shared opinions of many men too.
/r/ExRedPill28/04/22 05:10 PM
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I mean for guys of my gen it was treated as such a mandatory thing. Men who couldn't get into relationships were called "betas" and I know that word had been floating around and its meaning in various circles of the manosphere has changed(all of them dumb and wrong, I'm sure you're familiar with that faulty study on wolves in captivity), but originally it was a label for a perceived caste of men who were inherently undesirable to women and at best they could hope to financially provide for a div…
/r/ExRedPill27/04/22 04:17 PM
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Yes I agree, I think for some others it might just be overly privileged guys who go everything else in life easy and became offended and confused as to why women were not falling for their immature narcissistic selves. There's probably way more but I'm just one person with one perspective.
/r/ExRedPill27/04/22 12:32 PM
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I think there are quite a multitude of factors at play. I think a lot of it stems from, at least for some, from possibly being rejected a lot, bullied and/or repeatedly humiliated in highschool. Trauma that cuts deep at a very vulnerable point in a person's life that they carry with them and never process properly because men and boys are often socialized not to do that. They're just supposed to "man up" and "get over it". I'm in my 30's, and when I was a teenager if you were a virgin and/or did…
/r/ExRedPill27/04/22 10:09 AM
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There has been an epidemic of male isolation for quite awhile now. If a person spends a decade mostly entirely by themselves then they can very easily come out creepy, weird and desperate.
/r/ExRedPill27/04/22 04:40 AM
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There came a point when I realized that absolutely nothing I was doing was working at all. Despite "having it all figured out" the mindset was just not correlating to reality in any way. I realized I needed to slow down, be humble and start being more mindful. It didn't all change in a day, it took about two years. But the change came and I slowly started to change. Being more mindful in the meantime prevented me from saying stupid things to people that pushed them away.
/r/ExRedPill14/04/22 11:04 AM
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A counterproductive squandering of your precious time.
/r/ExRedPill12/04/22 03:53 AM
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Because "oooooooo seeeee???? Women do it too!!!" They really don't like or respect women as a whole, that's about it. It's also counterproductive because there is an issue with female on male sexual violence that's is probably way more common than people think and pretty much entirely ignored by everyone but when thesr are the people bringing it up it's hard to take seriously.
/r/ExRedPill11/04/22 08:11 AM
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I imagine many non-famous super attractive people might find themselves in this situation: Let's say a person decided to work on themselves to a phenomenonal degree. They truly sorted themselves out, diet, finances, health, style, ethics, depth, education, etc. Some combination of highly desirable factors to varying degrees. Through years of self-reflection and development they became someone pretty impressive and way above average. Only for them to find out pretty much everyone else around them…
/r/ExRedPill08/04/22 09:48 AM
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I'm not going to shame you but I would encourage you to question why you felt that way. It's not like Jada Smith was some saintly angel very much quite the opposite actually and not someone worth committing a crime over.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/22 09:17 AM
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I'm not entirely sure what people nowadays mean by this term, but if a man is only coming to the defense of women because he hopes he will get sex out of it, that's pretty bad. Even worse in situations where the woman is CLEARLY in the wrong.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/22 09:14 AM
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I think it's about location and actually paying attention to see if the other person wants to talk to me. For an extreme example, a dark parking lot at 3:00 AM? Jesus Christ, no. At a club or festival where everyone seems to be in an open and talkative mood? Maybe depending on her.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/22 08:56 AM
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But my man, none of these guys think they are weird. They think they are normal. Or they don't think about it at all. They're not mindful, tactful or observant. There are times and places where a person just shouldn't. Personally I think what most people call "cold approaching" is weird as all heck in most situations. Approaching a woman you don't know at the grocery store is super weird to me.
/r/ExRedPill01/04/22 08:21 AM
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Your life experience will definitely vary depending on how you look. If you think it would have been smooth sailing if you were born looking like a boy band member or something, probably not. But maybe better depending on opportunity and life circumstances. I am a very beautiful person. More than one person(not my mom lol) has told me that I could be a model or that I'm incredibly attractive. How much luck with relationships do you think I've had? Not much at all. I've suffered from mental illne…
/r/ExRedPill31/03/22 09:40 AM
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It's just a form of mass gaslighting. Hop on a bus and take a look at the older guys. Most of them didn't hold up all that great.
/r/ExRedPill29/03/22 02:29 PM
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It is a problem. A lot of women are very racist when it comes to this sort of thing and they are totally oblivious to it and rarely called out for it. When a person fetishizes a person's race they are assigning characteristics to that person based on racist stereotypes. When a woman says they are into "white guys" what does that mean? It's not just the shade of skin, they are assigning a list of attributes to this "white guy" in their minds. It's incredibly gross. I'm a "white guy", but I'm a hu…
/r/ExRedPill29/03/22 11:14 AM
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The last paragraph casts justifiable doubt on this study. I work in education and every bully I've taught has had some underlying issue at home or at school. Most of the time it's god awful parents. Also assuming they are happier, happier when? Because my bullies from school who didn't sort themselves out are currently living some of the most embarrassingly subpar and squalid lives you can imagine.
/r/ExRedPill27/03/22 06:34 PM
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In that tiny paragraph you somehow managed to fit 101 bulletpoints that are either false or have nothing to do with the issue. Political correctness and wokeness? Just stop being a rude and respect people. Covid imposed prison? What did you think people were supposed to do? Let the plague run rampant? It's called a civic duty. All that stuff with money has nothing to do with the LGBT community or wokeness or whatever. That's a problem inherent to Capitalism and letting and handful of billionaire…
/r/ExRedPill21/03/22 09:18 AM
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An out-of-touch guy who only and absolutely listens to guys exactly like him(other out-of-touch guys).
/r/ExRedPill20/03/22 11:27 AM
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Lmao what? Do they? You know there is are other continents right? Like Asia and Africa? I think you're making some strange associations in your mind. Just because Barbie or whoever is blonde does not make blonde hair "womanly".
/r/ExRedPill08/03/22 02:40 PM
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Many women really do like prettier more polished men. Take a look at how male K-pop stars look and see how popular they are with many women. Seems weird you associate eye and hair color with femininity.
/r/ExRedPill08/03/22 08:56 AM
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Yes and I hope people don't forget it. Let this set a standard and hopefully put all that "alphabro manosphere" nonsense to rest for good.
/r/ExRedPill28/02/22 11:32 PM
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I'm 31m and here's what I do. I focus on myself 100%. No relationship or kids means more money and time for me. I can do pretty much anything I want in my free time as an adult. Take the best care of YOU possible. So many people are falling apart at the seams because of the relationship they "had to" have, the particular flashy car they "needed", the children they were "supposed to" have and so on and so forth. People who refused to see the writing on the wall and thought they would be an except…
/r/ExRedPill27/02/22 10:34 PM
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Highly questionable. I think the wild ideas incels have about facial attractiveness and how common facial dysmorphia is evidence of that.
/r/ExRedPill10/02/22 01:14 PM
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I was just about to write something similar. How many of these "gurus" present advertise themselves with something like "Find out what women REALLY want." Implying that they are all lying snakes conspiring together or that there is some code or series of phrases that will activate a woman's horny mode. These guys already thought pretty badly of women in the first place.
/r/ExRedPill06/02/22 01:50 PM
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Women tell men what they want all. the. time. Men then assume they are lying or confused and then start talking about "genetics"(which they don't understand). Yes, some women are dishonest about what they want. Some women don't know what they want. Some women want something different at different stages of their life. Above all what redpillers don't understand is that if you weirdly and aggressively badger and pressure women with questions about what they want in a man you will probably not get …
/r/ExRedPill06/02/22 12:20 PM
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It's a brand image. Countless (shitty) people do this. They pretend that they are way "cooler" than they are and deserve way better than they do. They create a massive fictional narrative in their head about them being ultimate alpha high value men who absolutely DESERVE to have sex with countless women AND have a totally subservient primary partner who doesn't mind him cheating and a whole harem of early 2000's GQ magazine hot chicks. These kinds of men, at least how these emotionally stunted m…
/r/ExRedPill06/02/22 11:13 AM
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Nooooo, that specifically as you said it was/is the slogan of an Alt-Right group.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/22 07:30 PM
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If you knew how I used to be, you wouldn't feel bad for me at all. That being said I've ended the cycle of harm and identify as a Feminist now.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/22 06:34 PM
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I grew up in a household where I was abused emotionally and physically by my grandmother and mother. At school I was berated and harassed by girls for not being manly. I hated women way before finding the redpill trash. Redpill stuff just seemed to "confirm" my suspicions.
/r/ExRedPill31/01/22 07:36 PM
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Most people have used it in a cheeky, mocking way so I wouldn't stress but when there is some manosphere channel talking about "degeneracy" combined with that then that's a yikes.
/r/ExRedPill26/01/22 07:18 PM
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The "reject _____ embrace _____" meme originates from an Alt-right slogan so that's a no from me dog.
/r/ExRedPill26/01/22 12:37 AM
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Many women love men who could fit the definition of nerdy, awkward, lanky, introverted and so on and so forth. The "Tumblr sexy man" phenomenon wouldn't be a thing if not. What they don't like are nerds like that loser from "The Quartering" youtube channel or incels or neckbeards or various other creeps.
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 08:08 PM
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No, it's saying if a person has to choose between bad and worse then they are going to choose bad. Although there are many women nowadays who have decided to be perpetually single because of the lack of decent men.
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 12:09 PM
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"Why would girls choose the entitled and misogynistic jocks instead of the quiet nerds, whose attitudes towards women are exactly on par with the jocks but who are less attractive?"
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 09:36 AM
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Women absolutely do not say that. What they commonly do say though, is "trust your gut".
/r/ExRedPill24/01/22 10:36 PM
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There was a thread about this the other day on a woman's subreddit. These guys will lie and change their entire personalities to get laid. If she's vegan, then he's vegan. If she liked hiking, then he likes hiking. If her favorite film is Forest Gump them his favorite film is Forest Gump. No shame, all sleaze. Then off to the next woman to find out what she's into.
/r/ExRedPill24/01/22 05:50 PM
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An attractive guy is more likely to have a normal personality? Which came first though, the chicken or the egg? Because I think a good personality is a pretty good way to become more attractive. I have known some physically attractive people with horrible personalities but there is a reason why I knew them and don't know them. They were horrible. I avoid them.
/r/ExRedPill22/01/22 10:00 AM
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If the guy is a weirdo then he's absolutely going to have problems. It doesn't matter how pretty he may or may not be. Lets say you have a very pretty man. He's a creep, he doesn't bathe or brush his teeth, no style, no hobbies apart from jacking off. He's going to have problems. He has potential! But women are not going to be flocking to him.
/r/ExRedPill21/01/22 07:03 PM
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For me personally, a person(men included) who have had a large number of sexual partners suggests instability, impulsivity, fickleness and possibly needing to fill some emotional emptiness that they aren't actually taking care of. I know there's going to be someone who s going to tell me the opposite or that I'm being judgmental or slut shaming or something but every. single. person. who I have known with a promiscuous past or present has had some serious personality issues that they were not in…
/r/ExRedPill18/01/22 06:55 PM
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Like do we really struggle to admit that though? Or do people like to delude themselves into thinking it doesn't matter? Personality is king. Ultimately and absolutely. However the way a person presents themselves to the world is critical. Here is what people actually don't like to confront. Personality and appearance is often linked. A person's demeanor, level of fitness, hygiene, posture and so on and so forth is often a part of their personality. A person who is mindful and self-aware is more…
/r/ExRedPill18/01/22 03:04 PM
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I was very young, still in highschool, isolated, bullied(by girls too), I didn't have any success at all in... anything actually, not just with engaging with girls. I became extremely bitter and bigoted. RP seemed to confirm all my most cynical suspicions about women. I started getting out only when I was about 29 when I realized absolutely nothing in my life was working out at all. Then I started to build something real with myself. Gosh, how much time was I stuck with such toxic thinking? Most…
/r/ExRedPill03/01/22 04:58 AM
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Ngl shrooms did a number on me in regards to waking me up but I can't say it was only that. I had a lot of time during the pandemic for introspection.
/r/ExRedPill02/01/22 04:57 PM
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True. Makes it extremely sus that all these redpill "gurus" are in their 40's and 50's. What the fuck. Something is extremely wrong with those guys.
/r/ExRedPill28/12/21 12:42 AM
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Holy crap my man that expression is NOT supposed to be taken literally. What that expression means is that there are plenty of men and a ton of them absolutely suck so there is no reason why a woman should settle for some subpar asshole when there are so many other better men who would want a partner.
/r/ExRedPill26/12/21 01:14 PM
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The most damaging effects actually came from that first redpill subreddit. Just me discovering the titles of the posts alone seemed to confirm all my fears and that my bitterness and cynicism was fully justified because women were just these evil creatures apparently. The truth is that I was still in highschool when I discovered that subreddit and the girls that I engaged with were kind of awful, but so was I. We were essentially kids. It was highschool. And the outlook I had of the world for so…
/r/ExRedPill25/12/21 05:04 PM
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Thank you for the quality post. Your experience is very insightful.
/r/ExRedPill25/12/21 04:58 PM
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Ok you are going to have to tell me what "promoves" means, you are killing me. Proves? Promotes? I think they are here probably because they are in denial that they are a part of the problem. They probably think they can help poor, clueless ex-redpillers when they ARE redpillers under a different brand name.
/r/ExRedPill23/12/21 07:15 PM
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I don't think I've ever heard anyone say it so bluntly like that but if someone did I think I would give them an unimpressed short stare. I don't know how it is for some other people but I am not interested in most of the women around me at all. I have only had one romantic connection in my 31 years of life and it was with an abuser that I had to completely cut out of my life and block on everything. I have dated a bit and I enjoyed spending time with these people but there was never a spark. I …
/r/ExRedPill22/12/21 10:19 AM
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Absolutely. Who knows what I missed out on.
/r/ExRedPill19/12/21 01:17 PM
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There was a narrative when I was a teenager that this was just how it was with men and women. I don't know exactly where it came from. Skeevy teen comedy films? Extremely insecure men raised in toxic environments? I'm really not sure but for a lot of young men this was just the "truth" it was the world they lived in and back then absolutely nobody challenged it.
/r/ExRedPill14/12/21 12:38 PM
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I noticed the overlap in ideas with incels and white suprematism and after some of those shootings and had a rude awakening and started relearning everything I thought I knew.
/r/ExRedPill10/12/21 12:48 PM
1

I would love to hear your knowledge about how women function.
/r/ExRedPill08/12/21 08:41 PM
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The intergender social dynamics that RP preaches are not rooted in any legit research whatsoever. RP is a collection of assumptions rooted in misogyny, stereotypes, bad personal experiences with women and manipulative and predatory behavior.
/r/ExRedPill08/12/21 01:23 PM
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Plenty of older men approach younger women. Younger women almost always want nothing to do with these older men. RPers encouraging older men to harass and creep out younger women has done nothing but make women extra wary of ALL men. There was a vid that went viral a long while ago of some old creep disturbing a young woman at the gym who was trying to make a video. He had a manchild tantrum and said something about him having more money before pissing off. Deeply embarrassing and shameful. Don'…
/r/ExRedPill24/11/21 11:12 AM
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Thank you for your comments they confirmed some ideas I had and your experience and detailed explainations are really appreciated.
/r/ExRedPill21/11/21 10:03 AM
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I used to but I learned to be content with myself. Also I don't know many people in enviable relationships to be honest. Happy looking pics on Instagram is one thing but a lot of the couples I know are absolutely toxic to each other. I'd rather be single than stuck in something like that.
/r/ExRedPill14/11/21 10:49 PM
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I would argue that they are victims of the societal standards and prevailing attitudes placed on men. They are products of their environment. However that does not exuse them of any personal responsibility when it comes to being a decent person.
/r/ExRedPill10/11/21 12:03 PM
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It's simple. Sometimes people date people who aren't good for them. That's it. No redpill pseudo-psychology needed.
/r/ExRedPill31/10/21 11:55 AM
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You guys overcomplicate this. People treat people who respect themselves and take care of themselves better than people who don't. It's not always fair but it is how it is. People are going to give more leeway to a person who looks well put together like they are trying their best than to someone who looks like they have never showered or changed their clothes. It is of CRITICAL importance to look as good as you possibly can because you will mess up in life at some point and how people perceive …
/r/ExRedPill29/10/21 11:45 AM
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Before I sorted myself out I spent about 2 years just doing my thing at home. You might have to do something similar. I just wasn't ready for the outside world yet. Best of luck and I hope you find yourself.
/r/ExRedPill23/10/21 02:49 AM
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If that is the case(and I'm not convinced it is, mind you) you should focus your efforts on everything else(although you should still take care of your face the best you can, skincare does not have to be complicated). You will find a grand total of zero people in the world who are deeply interested in a person that thinks they are so ugly that there is no point in trying. When a person takes good care of themselves, it is not just a sign if respect to themselves but also to OTHER people around t…
/r/ExRedPill23/10/21 02:41 AM
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Assuming this is true, what aspects of your appearance do you have control over? Mind you that most women are justifiably wary of men, attractive or not.
/r/ExRedPill22/10/21 04:36 PM
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IN WHAT UNIVERSE DOES THIS HAPPEN??? Nobody interacts like that. I am creasing.
/r/ExRedPill22/10/21 09:01 AM
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I'm afraid you are not going to find the self-defeating answer that you are looking for. I never had a girlfriend when I was in school and in my early 20's people on the street would avoid me because they thought I was homeless. I was not attractive by any means. My skin was terrible, I was unhygienic, I really did not have much going for me. This idea that if a person is born with just the right jaw or eye shape or something then life and love will be smooth sailing is not just totally wrong bu…
/r/ExRedPill22/10/21 08:17 AM
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Yes. Very. But I only became attractive once I started practicing self-care and self-love. I also used to be a massive bigot and my personality repulsed most people, especially women. My diet was also mostly just alcohol and sugar and that definitely did not help. If you think I was born some giga chad you are very mistaken as it couldn't be further from the truth.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/21 04:27 PM
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No offense but this question was so funny to me. Your username makes me sad though. Ok there is a bit to unpack here. First of all we are all born as round dumb babies, you are not an inherently dull or boring person. There are many dull and boring people, none by birth. I am a very charismatic person. I can say that with confidence. I learned how to become charismatic by practicing these following skills, self-love, self-care, respect for self, respect for others, mindfulness, attentiveness, be…
/r/ExRedPill21/10/21 04:19 PM
5

Something a lot of people miss is that the "boys will be boys" kind of attitudes towards toxic male behavior isn't just something about the privilege of getting away with bad behavior, it's also dehumanizing language. If a man really believes he's just a slave to his libido and violent impulses, then what is he? If someone believes that as much as they believe the sky is blue or the grass is green then they also believe, maybe without knowing, that they are some kind of creature, a sick dog, not…
/r/ExRedPill14/10/21 08:49 AM
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If you really think boy bands have no talent then try it, do a dance routine to a song and put it on youtube,see what response you get, that's only a fraction of the kind of work they do and you will find that it's not easy. I am not a boy band fan. I am a 31 year old cis man that likes 80's anime cyberpunk sounding techno and ARCA. However I am tired of this narrative that musical acts targeted towards teen girls are "talentless". These are skilled performers whether they are our cup of tea or …
/r/ExRedPill05/10/21 10:24 AM
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A lot of "ugly" guys really are only "ugly" because they see themselves that way. They have no idea what kind of vibe they are projecting out into the world. The self-pity, the lack of self-care because "why bother?". It is so gross.
/r/ExRedPill05/10/21 10:18 AM
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The other person said it better but yeah, a lot, if not ALL of those not so attractive guys are just as bad if not worse. Every single guy I have ever heard speak some variation of the "why won't women give nice guys a chance" line was absolutely NOT a good person and often an absolute slob. It's not that "women choose jerks" it's more like "most men are horrible so I might as well choose one who at least knows how to dress." Also mind you that almost nobody marries their first partner, most rel…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/21 10:16 AM
1

Do you really? You might think you do but you really don't. Although I'm not going to lie I do partially empathize.
/r/ExRedPill02/10/21 07:58 AM
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I was not the the person in that comment. My comment is newer. Mind you "bare minimum" to date is different from the "bare minimum" to just hang out or tolerate a person.
/r/ExRedPill02/10/21 07:55 AM
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Also a lot of guys are good at manipulation and gaslighting. Don't assume that their relationships are healthy.
/r/ExRedPill02/10/21 07:53 AM
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Women are people and people sometimes make mistakes. Simple as.
/r/ExRedPill02/10/21 07:52 AM
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No but it's part of a package.
/r/ExRedPill02/10/21 07:20 AM
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Respect does not have to be all or nothing. You can respect someone as a fellow human being and not treat them in an ugly way, even if they are people you don't like.
/r/ExRedPill02/10/21 07:20 AM
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Being hygenic, well groomed, tactful, considerate, attentive, respectful, present, mindful, egalitarian, at least somewhat cordial, socially aware, self-aware, self-loving, emotionally intelligent, empathetic, not creepy or lecherous and demonstrating effort to always be willing to learn and improve are many of the traits I would consider to be the "bare minimum" that many men I know do not fulfill. This is the bare minimum for any kind of social engagement by the way, not just for a girlfriend,…
/r/ExRedPill02/10/21 07:16 AM
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Well, first we have to make it clear that not all of those people do have relationships. There are plenty of forums, full of creeps of all kinds, who frequently complain about how women don't really want "nice guys". I remember doing a deep dive into a particularly cringy and alarming nazi group and some of their earliest posts were about how "stupid" women were and lamenting about how none of them were liked by girls in their classes at all. People are complicated and there are people out there…
/r/ExRedPill29/09/21 03:26 PM
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Bad people often get into relationships because people often get into relationships. That's about it. Mind you, that doesn't mean the relationships that they are in are in any way good or satisfying. Sometimes they are not good AT ALL in ANY way, but people stay in them for various reasons. Financial reasons, safety reasons(violent abusive partner for example), codependency, being the victim of manipulation, religious reasons, status and saving face in a community where you are not seen as "norm…
/r/ExRedPill29/09/21 12:11 PM
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HealthyGamerGG with Dr. K on youtube. 100% total endorsement. This man's guidance has halped me so much you wouldn't even believe.
/r/ExRedPill18/09/21 10:28 AM
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I have managed to do this with online dating, here is how you can do it. First off, be presentable. You must be clean and well put-together in your pics, as much as possible. Try to project the best vibe you can, be the best version of you. Smile in a friendly way. In your bio make it clear that you are not some right-wing dickhead loser because most women are completely averse to anything even remotely conservative. If you are bigoted or right-wing in any way, stop. Sort it out. It's not good f…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/21 09:06 AM
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I'd tell them to look at the state of Afghanistan or any other place where women can't vote or have few to no rights and tell me how cool and great it is. Tell me about all the cool technology and cultural exports those places are producing. The men aren't making much either because they live very rigid lives with no outside-the-box thinking. Virtually everything cool or interesting came out of Egalitarian spaces. There is a reason why most right-wing art sucks, and the little art that comes out…
/r/ExRedPill05/09/21 08:26 AM
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Not the same but watching the HealthyGamerGG youtube channel with Dr. K helped me a ton. Nevermind the name, his channel tackles similar issues often.
/r/ExRedPill03/09/21 09:23 AM
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Mindful. Self-aware. Willing to listen and learn. Open to positive personal growth and change. Tactful. Some sense of dignity and decency. Respectful of boundaries. Self-loving. Respectful of others and of self. Egalitarian. Hygenic. Some sense of style. Accountable for one's own actions and flaws. Financially responsible. Socially capable. Understanding of consent. A willingness to try to at least partially understand and empathise with women's experiences and struggles. Aware and at least supe…
/r/ExRedPill01/09/21 09:36 AM
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This SO on point.
/r/ExRedPill31/08/21 09:52 PM
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I don't have a study to bring up or anything but I have talked to women a lot and the things they tell me about interactions they have had with men leads me to believe that women have a much easier time attracting men(this is often not good as I will soon make clear why) and men have a much harder time attracting women because they come across as creepy, weird, dangerous, idiotic, desperate and so on. I talked with a woman today and she told me that many of the men she has chatted with on dating…
/r/ExRedPill31/08/21 09:09 PM
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Go ask your mother about how much life favors women more than men. Also what age a person finds attractive should scale with their own age or else it's sketch.
/r/ExRedPill29/08/21 10:33 PM
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I'm not sure it's healthy to even think in terms like the "the wall". What I do know is that I've seen plenty of women 40+ who were attractive and plenty of women around their mid-20s who absolutely are not. I think if these guys went outside and were actually observant of the world around them, they'd see it simply as it is.
/r/ExRedPill29/08/21 03:04 PM
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All of that stuff is totally made up and was based on a highly flawed and discredited study on wolves. The same researcher who made the study is the same person who later discredited it. There are not only no such thing as alpha or beta wolves, there are no such thing as alpha or beta people. And there absolutely is no such thing as a sigma male. EDIT: link https://sciencenorway.no/ulv/wolf-packs-dont-actually-have-alpha-males-and-alpha-females-the-idea-is-based-on-a-misunderstanding/1850514
/r/ExRedPill28/08/21 07:16 AM
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Thank you, I screencapped this comment to remind myself later. I have been sad and frustrated for the longest time about this sort of thing but this I needed to hear and learn.
/r/ExRedPill21/08/21 08:05 AM
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No. Not everyone will like you. YOU don't even like everyone. There are no cheatcodes to relationships and there are not special phrases that will win you hearts. If a man wants to increase his chances at finding a compatible partner and a healthy relationship then there is no shortcut, he must put the effort into becoming a genuinely good person. Not a guy playing the role of a "nice guy" with an ulterior motive but a genuinely better person. This involves a lot of self-reflection, soul searchi…
/r/ExRedPill20/08/21 06:51 AM
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Ok let's be careful with this. It is a numbers game in the sense that not every woman will be interested in you and vice versa. The more people you meet the higher the chance of finding someone compatible. No, there is not a cheatcode or special phrase that will make women want you. I'm not sure what the "cold approach" is when it comes to pua but if it's constantly harassing random women until one of them gives you the time a day, then yeah don't do that. Also yeah guys DO do that but typically…
/r/ExRedPill19/08/21 03:39 PM
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I'm glad to see this video is really making the rounds. It's such a good example of how NOT to behave. Hopefully some men can learn from it and adjust themselves accordingly.
/r/ExRedPill19/08/21 09:17 AM
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Not to mention that she was filming a video and he knew it. That old jackass just interrupted her project and she probably had to film it again after. The entitlement of these guys is insane.
/r/ExRedPill19/08/21 09:07 AM
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Although it's a late 90's film, I specifically had American Pie in mind and all the similar films that came after that it inspired. The 40 Year Old Virgin came out in 2004. I never saw that film but I do remember teens at school making fun of other students saying that they would become 40 year old virgins if they didn't get laid. So many films that put sex and romantic (hetero)relationships on a pedestal like "this is what you HAVE to have, there is NOTHING better than this". To me it's so path…
/r/ExRedPill16/08/21 03:14 PM
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r/menslib and HealthyGamerGG on youtube with Dr. K are the best communities for men I have found.
/r/ExRedPill16/08/21 12:53 PM
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I do not think it is ANY coincidence that the incel generation of men predominantly also seem to be the generation of men that went through their coming of age during the hypersexual and socially unaware youth culture of the mid-2000s. If you rewatch a lot of "classic" romantic comedies and trashy teen sex comedies of that era you will get an insight into how so many people viewed sex and women. You needed to "score", "get pussy", not be a virgin and so on. You as a man, should want to "fuck bit…
/r/ExRedPill16/08/21 12:51 PM
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You are 16. You are so young and it sounds like you are making real efforts towards self-improvment. I say you need to stop hanging around toxic spaces. Please join r/menslib and hang around there and leave any "pill" communities. I know being a teenager is horrible but you can be on the right track and avoid years of unnecessary pain.
/r/ExRedPill16/08/21 10:13 AM
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I was just about to write a similar comment but refrained because I thought it might be rude, your stories of trying to meet and make friends with people are so distressingly similar to my own that I'm starting to suspect I also might be neurodivergent in some way. I just don't "click" with most people no matter how hard I try and have put myself out there. There are probably other factors but it always feels like I'm a space alien or something.
/r/ExRedPill16/08/21 09:23 AM
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Can we please get r/FemaleDatingStrategy banned? I have been telling people how toxic that place is, It's essentially mgtow but for women. r/incelexit stupidly got banned even that sub was good for funneling those guys into healthier headspaces. If some incel comes across r/FemaleDatingStrategy all their fears about women will be "confirmed" thanks to that handful of misandrists.
/r/ExRedPill14/08/21 04:24 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised at all. I think it's all a "brand image" for these guys. Total frauds.
/r/ExRedPill13/08/21 10:11 AM
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From his pics five seconds in he initially looks pretty clean and well put together(even though there is something clearly "off" about him) but then you read his bio and it's clear why women don't actually like him. If he sorted out that gross personality of his he could probably find a real girlfriend instead of a prostitute posturing as one. Mind you he is probably putting his best foot forward in the bio. That's his best. So imagine his average. Imagine his bad days and what impression he giv…
/r/ExRedPill13/08/21 09:59 AM
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Gross.
/r/ExRedPill13/08/21 09:38 AM
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Quality post.
/r/ExRedPill10/08/21 08:33 AM
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It was always sour grapes. 🍇
/r/ExRedPill09/08/21 03:34 PM
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When you go out with a person, you are supposed to enjoy your time with that person. You should not be thinking something along the lines of "this is what I have to do in order to get sex later." You may not have seemed like relationship material because maybe your mind was somewhere else. If you are dating casually and things seem to be good and you like her in a romantic way, then you need to make sure she knows it. If she reciprocates the feeling, then cool, make sure you both want the same k…
/r/ExRedPill08/08/21 02:33 PM
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It's not the "sexual dichotomy of most women" lol get that garbage out of here. People of all genders can be trash. The way you phrased "have to wait at least a month to sleep with her" and "give it away for free" also rubs me the wrong way. I get why people want to have sex but it sounds like you're talking about an investment or something and that's the wrong way to look at relationships and sex. You should be focusing on the time with her and not "this is what I go through to get sex". I'm no…
/r/ExRedPill08/08/21 07:48 AM
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Big agree on the ethical standards. There aren't any perfect people but there are some hardline issues that can't be tolerated. A lot of people would be a lot more at peace if they just cut out certain people from their lives.
/r/ExRedPill08/08/21 07:33 AM
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Just about everything everyone else said in this thread is true but one thing thas hasn't been mentioned yet is that a few women will date abusive men because they were raised in abusive homes and that abuse feels "normal" or "honest" to them. People are complicated. Men do this too. It is not exclusive to women. Also redpillers get this idea that women will ONLY date a certain kind of man throughout their entire lives. It is not unusual at all for a person to get out of a bad relationship and t…
/r/ExRedPill04/08/21 08:18 PM
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I am the whitest white man who has not experienced what other posters in this thread have but I do know that black women are stereotyped horribly in media and even more horribly online as being angry and hostile. How many times have I seen some kind of representation of the "angry black woman"? More than I've seen any other representation, that's for sure. In fact, speaking of anime, I can tell you it's only been the past couple of years I've seen kawaii style clothes on black women on Instagram…
/r/ExRedPill04/08/21 06:52 AM
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No. It's good to learn not to be clingy but not for the sake of re-attracting someone. You should learn not to be clingy for YOURSELF. Also it's probably not going to work. It is possible(but not likely so don't count on it) that after a period of time, where both you and your ex have grown as people to the point of essentially being different people, something new might start if it seems interesting and you happen to meet again and connect. But odds are she has probably moved on with someone el…
/r/ExRedPill03/08/21 01:55 PM
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OP your take is terrible, please just delete it from your brain and you need to be more specific with what you mean by "chadfishing". If you mean like those fake profiles of male models with ridiculous bios like "I'm unemployed because I recently got out of jail for beating a child for wearing a Fortnite shirt(lol loser kid had it coming, no regrets)". No, that doesn't prove anything except that redpillers wasted a lot of people's time. First thing to consider. When someone is SUPER attractive, …
/r/ExRedPill01/08/21 09:29 PM
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I realized absolutely nothing in my life was working and it was time to step outside my comfort zone and re-examine my views on women and relationships. I read a lot about women's experiences and Feminism here on Reddit and I did some self-therapy through the HealthyGamerGG youtube channel and r/menslib.
/r/ExRedPill30/07/21 09:12 AM
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I feel you. A lot. I think I can lead you somewhere that will give you some relief but only at the cost of a different kind of pain. I would recommend frequenting r/niceguys and reading posts there. Unfortunately the truth is that a lot of women ghost because they are just scared. I have been reading stories on r/niceguys of women who knew men for YEARS only for them to later harass, stalk or assault them, sometimes brutally. The fact is that you can never truly know someone and there is a serio…
/r/ExRedPill28/07/21 06:09 PM
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Yes, but I'm telling you there is no real science to that either. The man who wrote that article is not a geneticist, he's a guy in a very cheap looking suit trying to offer you a "free" course. What are "sexy" genes? I have seen women with all kinds of different men with all kinds of personalities(mind you that not all of these women were happy). I remember when I was studying there was this guy in my class who was almost a caricature of what redpillers imagine a "beta"(also if you don't know a…
/r/ExRedPill28/07/21 03:43 PM
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None of this is based on any real science. None of it. How many women do you think would be willing to date Jeff Bezos? Despite being incredibly rich he's also an exploitative creepy ghoul of a man with zero charisma. Most women would want nothing to do with him. Some yes, certainly. But not most. Any relatively fit guy with some sense of empathy, mindfulness, style, accountability and hygiene is more attractive than Jeff Bezos. I can say with confidence that I am way more attractive than him or…
/r/ExRedPill28/07/21 09:49 AM
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A remember seeing a woman in a different thread said that some of these women buy the conservative false narrative that 1950's housewives actually had it pretty awesome. They think that their perfect husband would have worked and provided for them while they would, idk, wear pretty polka dot dresses and occasionally do the dishes(at most). The idealic 1950's of those drawings in adverts that were selling grills or patio furniture or something. They think Feminism took that away from them but "th…
/r/ExRedPill26/07/21 02:21 PM
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I think most men do NOT want to look in the mirror and acknowledge that they are possibly the bad guy. And not the bad guy in the "cool" way like Darth Vader or Tony Montana. Plenty of men could live with that, easily. No problem being some kind of "badass". But a bad guy like Mamoru Uchida from Perfect Blue, a pathetic slimy creep loser? No way. No guy wants to be that. But a lot of guys are. So they downplay it, they lie to themselves. The truth is too much. They don't want to be that. Acknowl…
/r/ExRedPill24/07/21 08:18 PM
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Thank you, I really appreciate your message. I am on my own healing and self-improvment journey and it really means a lot to hear something like that. Please be careful though, I think the kinds of discussions between men and women we engage in are necessary but I also know that some men only engage in them because they have an ulterior motive, just want someone to whine to without ever improving themselves or the ways they think women should treat them are... really unreasonable. I had to end a…
/r/ExRedPill24/07/21 08:06 PM
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They will often tell me about how often they are harassed and creeped on by other men, threatening DMs they receive and so on. A lot of men and even some women will downplay or deny their experiences as "not that bad" or something which enables that sort of behavior to continue. I feel privileged and happy that these women trust me enough and feel comfortable enough to talk to me about such things but angry that so many men still haven't gotten the memo or don't care to. It's a kind of trust tha…
/r/ExRedPill24/07/21 02:28 PM
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No. However there is some research saying that Feminist men are having more sex. If you'll humor an anecdote, I talk quite a bit with women and they tell me things they definitely don't tell most other men, I get the impression that women don't like a lot of men. Not because of some incel-y "oh I have thin wrists" nonsense but because a lot of men are immature, manipulative, misogynistic, entitled, coercive, lecherous, creepy and so on and so forth. The way so many men behave is so gross and ala…
/r/ExRedPill24/07/21 12:09 PM
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r/MensLib and HealthyGamerGG with Dr. K on youtube. I immersed myself in these communities during the pandemic and came out a much better, more empathetic and educated man.
/r/ExRedPill15/07/21 09:56 AM
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Absolutely and totally r/menslib and HealthyGamer with Dr. K on youtube.
/r/ExRedPill23/03/21 03:33 PM
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OP, infidelity has always existed throughout all of human history. I’m not saying that to excuse or say it is in any way ok, but there is no reason for you to lose your faith in humanity because of it. Something else to consider, and before I start, I’m not excusing cheating, but you have no idea how these people’s relationship was. For all you know the guy in the vid could be a massive abuser. You don’t know.
/r/ExRedPill28/02/21 03:11 PM
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None of these types of “alphas” actually exist. Same with “Chads”, “Stacies” and so on. It’s all creative fiction. Real human beings do not fit into such boxes. Also anyone unironically calling themselves an “alpha” is a loser.
/r/ExRedPill21/02/21 05:55 PM
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This is true. I’m not sure if it’s just where I live but almost everyone around me is an absolute slob. Bad diets, bad clothes, bad hair, bad everything. I used to be exactly the same too but when I started to really work on myself my quality of life and interactions with other people sky rocketed. People treat me and look at me like a respectable adult. Disclaimer: I am a white cis-male heterosexual. Your results may vary depending how bigoted people are around you. Nevertheless, self-care will…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/21 03:45 PM
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Yes, but there’s an overlap with Alt-Right stuff too. A lot of these people targeted are extremely pessimistic to the point of absurdity and definitely mental illness, but they really do see the world and the people around them that badly. So when some group claims to have secret info that yes, women really are these horrible creatures that need to be gamed these people go “Oh of course they are.”
/r/ExRedPill08/02/21 05:09 PM
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I might be up for it, big maybe, no promises, but I want to be anonymous and have nobody see my face.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/21 10:43 AM
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It’s not that people always assume that someone is being “nice” for nefarious reasons but there are two things you should keep in mind. Firstly, being nice is not impressive. Depending on the circumstances, you don’t even have to be nice to work a lot of jobs where you’d think it would be mandatory. I’ve worked in businesses where the secretary was rude and had the communication skills of a fifth grader. I’ve visited gas stations where the cashier would rush you out so he could go back to chain …
/r/ExRedPill21/01/21 12:45 AM
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This drives me up the wall. Who do these guys think men should he having sex with exactly? If men were having as much sex with as many different women as they think they should then there would be absolutely no low n-count women anywhere.
/r/ExRedPill12/01/21 04:21 PM
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Holy shit that guy is so hilariously dumb. I really recommend you guys watch his debates with Vaush. I am stunned that a 50+ year old man can still act like a teen dude bro. It’s amazing.
/r/ExRedPill04/01/21 07:16 PM
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I’m not sure when it happened but there was one day when I saw it for what it really was and that was it. It’s just sour grapes. The most sour of grapes. I remember how ridiculous the vibe was of their website. Not even sure it’s still up. The vibe was like, “handsome intelligent men in suits and Rolex watches eschewing women(who they absolutely and totally had no interest in whatsoever at all which is why they had to talk and think about women all the time) so they could focus on shaping the wo…
/r/ExRedPill31/12/20 12:58 AM
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Those very religious women might not even be allowed to divorce depending on what kind of religious community they are a part of, or they may choose not to since getting a divorce may make them a pariah in their religious community. They may value their community or religion over having a happy marriage. They may straight up lie and say their marriage is great just for the sake up keeping up a facade.
/r/ExRedPill27/12/20 07:57 PM
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Incels tend to believe that they are so intrinsically and innately repulsive that there is absolutely nothing that would improve their chances of finding a partner. They seem to think it’s because of their thin wrists or lack of “hunter eyes” or some other nonsense so because they think they are unlovable due to some physical feature(s) that a shower and a haircut seems like a joke to them.
/r/ExRedPill27/12/20 03:57 PM
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I think by default, everyone here was manipulated by some redpillers. My experience with women up to discovering red pill stuff was my physically and emotionally abusive mother and grandmother and mean girls and “nice girls” at highschool. Discovering the red pill seemed to confirm all my deepest suspicions about women. Now I am older and wiser and I know better. Those women who were abusive, cruel or toxic to me were not all women, but they were the women who occupied all of my headspace at the…
/r/ExRedPill19/12/20 04:28 PM
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You are 17. I am 30. Red Pill bullshit stole more than a decade of my life away. It took me about two years to remove that poison. And you know what? My life is awesome. You can do it. You can escape and heal from this mindset. Don’t waste time. Do it now. Join r/menslib and check out the Healthy Gamer youtube channel. Best of luck. I believe in you.
/r/ExRedPill10/12/20 07:58 PM
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It’s not 2015 anymore, “pal”.
/r/ExRedPill10/12/20 08:36 AM
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It’s just a different flavor of dumb misogyny.
/r/ExRedPill09/12/20 04:13 PM
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I would strongly recommend r/menslib and the HealthyGamer youtube channel run by Dr. K.
/r/ExRedPill09/12/20 12:15 PM
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And I’m telling you it won’t. This idea that having sex will help incels is a common thought in their communities. I have read posts by them saying how they resent women for not “helping” them. It’s partially a product of high school bullying(making fun of young men for being virgins and so on) and trashy socially irresponsible teen comedies like “American Pie” or “The 40-Year-Old Virgin”. Sex. will. not. help. these. people. They are the product of a dog shit culture that shames men for an abso…
/r/ExRedPill02/12/20 01:30 PM
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If you think that is true ask any woman who’s been used for sex and then ghosted. Don’t confuse sex with love.
/r/ExRedPill02/12/20 11:59 AM
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What you are describing is pity sex and the chance if any woman having it with some incel is close to zero, an even lower chance that she would enjoy it. Lower still that there would be a second time. It’s not in the realm of reality. No woman would want to subject herself to that. And what then? Oh I got pity sex and then she ghosted on me? Getting a gf means that, yeah, somebody found out about that person attractive enough to spend time with and get intimate with. It’s something but it too wi…
/r/ExRedPill02/12/20 11:55 AM
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No, I don’t think either are ok. I think anybody who thinks this behaviour is ok is kidding themselves. But it’s also not my business and it’s not my job to be policing other people’s sexual lives. I had a few one night stands when I was younger. Unnecessary risk for low return. I don’t even remember half of these people’s names. If I were to have died the day after they would not have come to my funeral. People will have sex though. They’re people. So I also don’t support slut shaming. It’s cru…
/r/ExRedPill01/12/20 06:47 AM
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Nobody owes anyone sex. The kind of sex that you are talking would just feel like masturbating with someone else’s body and would make the needy blackpiller clingy and dependent on the woman. Always wanting more.
/r/ExRedPill30/11/20 06:36 PM
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Nope. No gonna work. A gf will not magically solve the deep wounds and insecurity these guys have. Insecurity about not having a gf will transform into insecurity about not being good enough or fear of infidelity or that she will leave him and when she eventually does, because people who don’t love themselves can’t be in healthy relationships, it will turn into insecurity of thinking that he will never find someone again.
/r/ExRedPill30/11/20 06:34 PM
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I would tell them to direct all the unrequited love they have for other people onto themselves. That’s what I did. No guarantee it will work but it’s what they should do. Why not? What do they have to lose? Take the plunge and love yourself. Love themselves in a way a good mother would love her child. Care for yourself. Nurture yourself. Be good to yourself. Love not just as a feeling but as everyday actions of self-care. Love yourself until your cup runneth over.
/r/ExRedPill30/11/20 06:31 PM
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It sounds like he’s saying or implying that people choose to be in bad situations or to be not doing well when this is mostly not the case.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/20 07:43 PM
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Sounds kinda like victim-blaming to me tbh.
/r/ExRedPill28/11/20 07:55 PM
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OP, I used to have an IRL friend group of incel and “nice guy” types. They were racist and misogynistic just like I was. I was a total loser, a pathetic alcoholic that was always drunk. I was also well liked by them even though they did ridicule me for my drinking. They looked good in comparison to me. I was not a threat when it came to women, so they did not feel insecure around me. I agreed with all their regressive and reactionary opinions. They did not have to live up to any high standards i…
/r/ExRedPill25/11/20 11:45 PM
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You should move away completely from the mindset of “pills”. Join r/menslib and work on being the best version of yourself, whatever that may be.
/r/ExRedPill25/11/20 05:10 PM
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Everyone’s college experience is different. There’s no universal experience. Don’t think trashy teen comedy films or “real” “amateur” porn is some accurate representation of reality.
/r/ExRedPill19/11/20 06:53 AM
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I’m not sure how I feel about sex and body counts but there are two things I know for sure. Sex is not always intimate, often it’s just like masturbating with someone else’s body. Secondly, despite western society’s increasing comfort with sex, the idea of the average Western woman being hyper promiscuous is a complete and total myth. All the data suggests that by and large we are living in an increasingly sexless and lonely society.
/r/ExRedPill17/11/20 11:23 PM
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It completely ruined any chance I had at making real connections with women. I would tell these people to completely disconnect from anything “redpill” and instead join r/menslib or to subscribe to the Healthy Gamer youtube channel. I would also encourage them to learn how to self-love and self-care. To be mindful. To visit feminist subreddits. To listen to women. To not let a few bad experiences permanently taint their view of women. To go out and make platonic friendships with women without th…
/r/ExRedPill17/11/20 02:33 PM
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1: There’s plenty but I would say that the worst ones are probably conservative, incel or alt-right facebook groups. 2: Here’s the thing, if you fall in line, you’re all good. These groups have an extremely low bar of entry. All you have to do is stand for their values. You don’t have to be well socialized, witty, interesting or anything. You don’t even have to practice basic hygiene or express basic human decency. So these groups are unfortunately very appealing for the countless fail sons of l…
/r/ExRedPill12/11/20 03:11 PM
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Good read. Thank you for posting.
/r/ExRedPill09/11/20 07:59 PM
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I really can’t choose one of these because I do think they are a product of our society but I don’t want to excuse them of any personal responsibility. I think they were men who were probably excluded from society either for good reasons(like being creepy and not respecting people’s boundaries) or for bad reasons(having unusual but harmless interests, being awkward, not being “manly”, etc.)(or both) and that later festered into something real ugly.
/r/ExRedPill08/10/20 03:57 PM
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Look I’m going to tell you straight. You’re letting your pessimism give you an irrational worldview. To have a healthy relationship you do need to love yourself and you do need to respect women. You do need to be a good person but not a “nice guy”. “Nice guys” put women on pedestals and act slimy and manipulative in order to maybe, just maybe, get the chance to have their peepees touched. Or they’re openly abusive and aggressive and they have just narcissistically deluded themselves into thinkin…
/r/ExRedPill01/10/20 10:53 AM
4

I think you might be making it harsher than what it needs to be. Here’s the thing, you may not have found that heavier woman attractive, but you may meet a different heavier woman you might find attractive. Weight is only one factor. But if you don’t find a woman attractive for any reason, that’s fine. But if you have these rigid standards you might miss out on people you might really like. But that’s on you. You don’t owe anyone any of your time.
/r/ExRedPill01/10/20 10:42 AM
2

All of them. I’ve been out of that mindset for about two years now and with hindsight I can see what a bad place my mind was in. Not just about women but about everything.
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 06:31 AM
1

How did the ASMR and women’s fashion videos help you? Your story sounds so much like my story by the way.
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 06:28 AM
8

Seconding r/menslib and r/bropill . Also I highly recommend checking out the Healthy Gamer youtube channel run by Dr. K. There’s a discord community for it and it’s great.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/20 01:29 PM
1

Same. I think we’ll get there eventually though. I’m optimistic. I just want to feel free to be human around people. Performative masculinity is exhausting. I recently quit doing it and nobody has harassed me for it yet. I’m 30 years old and not a teen in school anymore so that might be why.
/r/ExRedPill28/08/20 09:25 PM
5

Yes. I think a lot of these men, myself included, were abused by a woman or women at some point. I think they could not acknowledge or process that abuse because being an “abuse victim” sounds “weak”. A man being abused by a woman? Even more “weak”. “Pathetic”. So they “manned up” and took the red pill and inadvertently made their lives even worse.
/r/ExRedPill27/08/20 09:11 PM
10

This. What a catastrophe.
/r/ExRedPill27/08/20 04:43 PM
2

I never said they should.
/r/ExRedPill25/08/20 08:35 PM
28

The kind of dog shit women that will cheat on their boyfriends to have sex with someone like you are not fair representations of all women or even most women. Just the kind of women that people like you tend to attract and you can all stay as far away from me as possible in your own little sleazy circle of Hell.
/r/ExRedPill25/08/20 07:20 PM
7

Me too. I feel you. We grew up. We can’t change yesterday but we can make a better today and tomorrow. Be kind and forgiving with yourself. Best wishes.
/r/ExRedPill24/08/20 05:51 AM
8

I think there are a lot of factors involved but I think the biggest one might actually be that people just don’t have enough time to decompress after work. People I know work so much, most of my friends work on the weekend, some have two jobs. When I do get to see them they often seem half awake, disorientated even. I have a lot of free time in comparison but that doesn’t do me much when everyone else is stuck on this late stage Capitalist hamster wheel. I work as a teacher and this entire Summe…
/r/ExRedPill23/08/20 05:43 AM
3

What caused my epiphany? Gosh, a lot of things but I remember this woman I know’s mother got cancer and I don’t know why this affected me so deeply but I remember that was the start of a lot of introspection. I don’t know if there is any magic combination of words that can lead this guy to changing his mind. I think he needs to be in a diverse community and not listening to misogynists online.
/r/ExRedPill21/08/20 06:03 AM
8

pffffft now way it’s dying. There are a lot of men who still cling on to some of these RP ideas because toxic masculinity is still very much a thing but by and large it’s vanishing.
/r/ExRedPill17/08/20 08:37 AM
17

I did miss out. Difference is that now I have the hindsight of an adult and I can clearly see those relationships for what they were.
/r/ExRedPill16/08/20 08:50 PM
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This is a really naive and fairytale view of young love though. The fantasy young people have in their heads of their first love is so idealized it’s just not reality. Looking back, you know what I remember from a lot of the relationships I saw around me? A lot of straight up abuse. It’s not unusual for teenagers to be sociopathic, short-sighted, selfish assholes so why would anybody think these people would have some kind of perfect anime rom-com relationship? Get real. Forget about the young l…
/r/ExRedPill16/08/20 07:10 PM
2

You’re thinking about this in a vacuum. Even if we, and by we I mean literally all of humanity moved past race and gender today, there would still the consequences of centuries of abuse and exploitation.
/r/ExRedPill13/08/20 05:10 PM
1

It doesn’t matter what the ultimate goal is in terms of racial and gender blindness. Ideally I do hope we can look past and move beyond the arbitrary lines that cause people to dehumanize each other but that day, if it ever comes, is a long way off. Race and gender are social constructs but the consequences of those social constructs are concrete. We can’t ignore these things and pretend not to see color or gender when that makes people also blind to the systematic and social problems that predo…
/r/ExRedPill13/08/20 04:06 PM
2

It’s not special treatment to try to elevate people to a level playing field. Racial and gender blindness could only work without the historical oppression and the system which enables the results of that oppression to stay the same. You and me seeing women and the races as all equal and valid humans is only a part of the problem. Also a lot of people are still sexist and racist and they don’t care what you or me think and more often than not have the types of personalities or the privilege to b…
/r/ExRedPill13/08/20 01:17 PM
9

I was a bit concerned about what this post would contain but it’s really mature and wholesome. Really good, OP.
/r/ExRedPill13/08/20 08:32 AM
3

“Those grapes are probably sour anyway.”
/r/ExRedPill12/08/20 01:46 PM
4

I want you to imagine how low you think it goes. Imagine you’re in a house with a basement. I promise you beneath those floorboards there’s another basement and probably another one after that.
/r/ExRedPill12/08/20 10:31 AM
2

I think they are both good for different demographics. I follow both but I have found r/menslib to be the most helpful for me.
/r/ExRedPill12/08/20 10:05 AM
8

I’m going to be real with you. Most of the stuff we heard about third-wave feminism is bullshit and a lot of the stuff that chuds said was bad, isn’t bad. Yes, there are some unpleasant people that call themselves feminists. There are some straight up awful people who call themselves feminists. You’re going to find unpleasant and awful people calling themselves all sorts of things. When I’ve interacted with feminists in good faith most of them have been patient and understanding with me, some we…
/r/ExRedPill12/08/20 09:56 AM
5

It can. I’m 30 now and am doing much better, not just with women but life in general. And I’m not talking about having tons of promiscuous sex with loads of women like some American Pie teen comedy fantasy. I’m talking about just being able to maturely interact with women without objectifying them or putting them on a pedestal or something. I became an adult. However this didn’t come just with time, this took a lot of self-reflection and a willingness to face my flaws and change them. Some men n…
/r/ExRedPill11/08/20 06:29 PM
3

Something I didn’t see in the comments yet. You can choose to have absolutely no standards whatsoever. There is an entire circle of hell at the bottom rung of society where sex is pretty easy to get. What you will not get however is: good sex, an STI free life, dignity, happiness and any sense of actual worth. I think it would be better instead to ask yourself why you feel the need to have sex with loads of women and reflect on that.
/r/ExRedPill11/08/20 06:21 PM
4

I didn’t even bother reading it in full but yikes.
/r/ExRedPill11/08/20 06:12 PM
31

Why are you jealous of this douche talking about having a one night stand as if he was talking about finding a rare bird in the Amazon or something? It’s so pathetic.
/r/ExRedPill11/08/20 04:49 PM
56

Come on you know why they do this. It’s because they are lying to themselves. They want a to have a romantic partner SO BADLY. Men who have actually “gone their own way” i.e. men who have decided they just don’t want a romantic partner(and that’s perfectly fine as long as it’s not for misogynistic reasons) don’t spend so much time talking about women.
/r/ExRedPill11/08/20 04:03 PM
11

A better partner for Esmerelda, yes. But these are also cartoon characters, and I worry that a lot of ex-redpill guys still see men in terms of “chads and betas”, these absurd internet cartoon caricatures, when real life is not like that at all.
/r/ExRedPill08/08/20 06:49 PM
20

It’s not about being “better” than him. Esmerelda was just compatible with Phoebus and that’s that. I don’t think someone like Quasimodo should feel inferior. It’s an ugly, sad and untrue way to view the world. People are very complicated and shouldn’t be put into such an oversimplified, cruel binary.
/r/ExRedPill08/08/20 06:33 PM
30

No and that anon has probably never been in a mature adult relationship. However he is almost right about one thing. In “traditional” relationships men do get a bad deal but women get a worse one. These sorts of relationships where a man is pressured to be the primary financial provider while the woman is just supposed to take a passive role yet also be expected to do all the emotional labor and eventually become a sort of maid/mother/therapist suck. They’re miserable and it’s why so many couple…
/r/ExRedPill08/08/20 04:32 AM
7

They stay home and day drink.
/r/ExRedPill06/08/20 11:10 PM
10

I was just about to mention. I will never forget that “bread scientist” shit. Unintentional comedy gold. Imagine being so insecure that you can’t even say that you’re learning how to bake. Imagine. Wow.
/r/ExRedPill05/08/20 06:20 AM
13

You’re wasting your time with RP stuff. It will turn you into a ghoul and ruin your life. If you want a good community for men, check out r/menslib .
/r/ExRedPill02/08/20 05:12 PM
16

That shit doesn’t matter, but please humor a personal anecdote and just trust me. I used to be absolutely repulsive to women, I had far-right/incel/red pill/mgtow beliefs, I practiced zero self-care, didn’t bathe enough, no sense of style and my diet was pretty much just candy and alcohol. I completely turned my life around over the course of two years and now women find me attractive. It’s not “just your face”.
/r/ExRedPill01/08/20 10:11 PM
21

What makes a person ugly though? The Red Pill will same dumb stuff like it’s your small wrists or you don’t have “hunter eyes” or some other nonsense. Most men who look ugly only look ugly because they have bad personalities and/or don’t practice any self-care.
/r/ExRedPill01/08/20 09:50 PM
22

Yes, you are correct. They are one in the same. The same guys to spout misogynistic redpill bullshit are the same guys who will write “pls respond” to an unanswered message. They are what they hate.
/r/ExRedPill22/07/20 07:22 AM
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He’s just another asshat trying to exploit you in a long line of asshats.
/r/ExRedPill17/07/20 06:40 AM
7

OP if you go back you’re not going to gain anything. Take a good hard look at the kind of guys who subscribe to that ideology. Rapists, nazis, incels all kinds of miserable weirdos. That doesn’t have to be you.
/r/ExRedPill15/07/20 11:11 AM
5

I agree. However women are not pressured to “woman up” if they are crying or emotionally vulnerable. They are not seen as defective in the same way men often are. They are allowed to feel feelings. This already takes care of a lot of problems. I have a “music for crying” playlist that I listen to try to cry and feel something, not much success so far. I’m half alive.
/r/ExRedPill06/07/20 04:23 PM
4

Listen my fellow human being, you have no idea what you are talking about. You have no idea the kind of mental state to s of men are in. There are so many men who have no friends, they just work(maybe), play video games, listen to some redpill/alt-right whatever podcast, masturbate to increasingly extreme and degrading pornography and sleep. The porn they watch often confirms their worldview about women. The pornographic industry makes what people want to see and surprise surprise it’s often som…
/r/ExRedPill06/07/20 04:04 PM
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I left redpill years ago but something important that I learned is that male mental health is not taken seriously at all. Men have feelings and they’ve been socialized to bottle them up and lo and behold, tons of men are fucked up and completely dysfunctional and isolated. We need to treat men not like “men” but as humans.
/r/ExRedPill06/07/20 03:59 PM
2

Big agree.
/r/ExRedPill06/07/20 03:56 PM
16

Porn is unhealthy and distorts their view of the world and of women.
/r/ExRedPill06/07/20 03:11 PM
17

I agree with the other guy. I’m 30 now and I’d want something close to my age. The reason why women in their 20’s are considered “more attractive” according to Red Pill beliefs is probably because those guys never matured past their early 20s, or they want someone younger to control, or they just believe it because they don’t meet many women so they can’t even imagine.
/r/ExRedPill24/06/20 06:24 AM
7

Look, here’s an unfortunate possibility, maybe those women are immature or maybe you are not as attractive and gentlemanly as you think you are or both. I don’t know you so maybe you are actually very attractive but I know a guy who makes similar complaints and he still doesn’t understand why he needs to brush his teeth every day. He also rarely bathes or washes his clothes, has no style and is extremely needy, insecure and passive-aggressive. I’m NOT saying that’s you. It’s not easy to get a gi…
/r/ExRedPill24/06/20 06:18 AM
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When people are young, they often don’t know what actually is a good partner. I’m a man, I was abused by women in my family, so when I started dating, getting treated like garbage was my “normal”. I didn’t know any better. Plenty of people get into toxic relationships without knowing that they are being mistreated.
/r/ExRedPill24/06/20 06:11 AM
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No guys. No. Go outside and look at real couples in the street and at restaurants and such. There are couples everywhere of all different statuses.
/r/ExRedPill17/06/20 02:18 PM
4

Thank you for sharing this. It helped me.
/r/ExRedPill11/06/20 10:39 AM
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