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What do you love about her?
/r/Divorce_Men25/07/26 03:33 PM
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Women date men who make less than they do all the time. Don’t believe everything you read on the Internet.
/r/MensRights30/06/26 11:01 PM
1

Why are you going for 50/50? Under these circumstances you should fight for full custody and let her work her way up. You are setting yourself up to lose - and it’s your kids who will be affected the most. Let her sort out her own problems.
/r/Divorce_Men30/06/26 11:00 PM
1

That is domestic violence and she deserves jail. I hope you are not like that domestic abuser.
/r/Divorce_Men30/06/26 10:58 PM
2

I have not finished reading yet but leave her in jail and press charges. This is something you must follow through. You must protect your kids.
/r/Divorce_Men30/06/26 10:58 PM
1

True, but they don’t need to be in love to do that.
/r/Divorce_Men30/05/26 12:50 PM
5

She would have left you any way precisely because you allow this kind of drama in your life.
/r/Divorce_Men21/05/26 05:48 PM
1

I didn’t say it was only an emotional affair. I said there is no such thing. She’s sleeping with someone.
/r/Divorce_Men18/05/26 04:05 AM
1

How hard do you think it is to sneak away?
/r/Divorce_Men18/05/26 12:51 AM
4

You don’t see it yet but part of why you’re in this situation is because you think like this. Let it go. Focus on yourself.
/r/Divorce_Men17/05/26 07:16 AM
1

How long does it take to make it physical?
/r/Divorce_Men17/05/26 07:12 AM
1

Most males are conditioned to think that staying with a cheating female is a sign of maturity.
/r/Divorce_Men17/05/26 07:11 AM
1

Women have sex quickly when they want to. Second night is not even quick. Also, bear in mind that this guy could be a decoy. Often, but not always, if they’re spending a lot of time thats not the main side guy. In any case, it doesn’t matter. If you’re staying, then that’s your new life, assuming she doesn’t leave at some point. If you’re leaving, then it’s her problem not yours.
/r/Divorce_Men17/05/26 01:04 AM
3

There is no such thing as an emotional affair. I know people want to believe it to lessen the blow. But there’s no such thing.
/r/Divorce_Men16/05/26 10:50 PM
1

Well, you seem to be alright with it. Assuming she wants to stay with you, consider an open relationship. Otherwise, the sooner you prepare for divorce, the better. Also, you’re not close. You just like the feeling you get.
/r/Divorce_Men16/05/26 10:45 PM
1

This is incorrect information. It won’t help you. You have to change your approach on a fundamental level. For one thing, if you’re going on dinner dates from the beginning, you’ve already lost.
/r/Divorce_Men15/05/26 06:10 AM
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Great question. First of all, their true selves show from the moment you meet them. The trouble is, most males are conditioned to ignore signs she is not interested. For example, you invite her for drinks. She asks if you can go for dinner instead. That’s a sign she doesn’t want you. But most males think that it’s an opportunity to impress her and get to know her. Men who know what they’re doing will ignore that woman forever. That’s the small percentage that does not complain about women.
/r/Divorce_Men14/05/26 01:32 PM
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That’s somewhat inaccurate. When they can’t attract the man they want, they settle for what you describe. As men, we have to filter these women out but most of us don’t.
/r/Divorce_Men14/05/26 12:22 PM
1

You need to start from scratch. You know nothing about how to attract women. An explanation won’t help because you have to unlearn everything you believe.
/r/MensRights14/05/26 11:47 AM
1

I took it exactly that way and that’s why it is a symptom of your problem. You now have a choice - consider that you are going about it the wrong way. Or keep thinking the same.
/r/MensRights13/05/26 11:08 AM
2

Sweep for them and remove them or turn them off.
/r/Divorce_Men10/05/26 10:53 PM
1

They’re still getting played though. If you don’t believe know how to attract women, going to a different country won’t help you. In fact, you’ll make it worse for yourself.
/r/MensRights10/05/26 10:47 PM
3

Maybe. But one thing is for sure - she does not care.
/r/Divorce_Men09/05/26 06:01 PM
1

Why do you care? Are you not divorcing her?
/r/Divorce_Men09/05/26 05:10 PM
1

I'm fine with just hanging out and not having sex That's the real problem, or rather the symptom of the real problem. Nothing to do with where you live.
/r/MensRights09/05/26 12:18 PM
1

But I just didn’t want it to be my son‘s boxing coach That's a contradiction to: Anyway, I don’t give a shit who she dates.
/r/Divorce_Men09/05/26 12:18 PM
0

So, as you will find out, the open book policy won’t help you. And why don’t you go to the women’s place?
/r/MensRights09/05/26 11:23 AM
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It was various things. You learn as you keep going. I have always enjoyed meeting new women so over time, I came to understand many concepts that I wasn’t aware of before. In most cases, the best thing is to end the relationship once the complaining begins. I didn’t always do that but in hindsight, I should have. Now, I know to be more selective and I enjoy a higher quality of relationships with women than I did before. Mind you, women do have their faults too. Most won’t be right for you. That’…
/r/Divorce_Men08/05/26 05:57 PM
3

I have had many great women but they spent more money on me than I spent on them. The ones that were not so great the issue was more my lack of leadership and my neediness.
/r/Divorce_Men08/05/26 04:47 PM
0

Why are you telling you life story to women you don’t know?
/r/MensRights08/05/26 06:33 AM
3

Yeah, but you are overthinking it. You can have women even without a van. Many guys do it.
/r/MensRights08/05/26 06:32 AM
2

Yeah, it hurts. At the same time, you can learn from it. You can learn that you don’t need her or any other specific female.
/r/Divorce_Men07/05/26 09:04 AM
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Respect yourself. Let her go.
/r/Divorce_Men07/05/26 01:21 AM
0

At the end of the day, if women want to be approached and pursued again Women still get approached and are pursued. Don’t let the Internet fool you.
/r/MensRights06/05/26 01:42 PM
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Don’t wait. Spend your time educating yourself. Most guys underestimate what they are about to face. Even though the system is unfair, you have to be willing to do what it takes to win.
/r/Divorce_Men04/05/26 01:15 PM
2

In most cases, the male pursued a female who was resisting. He worked hard to prove himself and to impress her. So the divorce is inevitable.
/r/Divorce_Men04/05/26 01:14 PM
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You think it’s coming? If she’s taking a month out, start speaking to lawyers. Now! Fathers are at a disadvantage in family courts. This is your chance to get a fair out come.
/r/Divorce_Men04/05/26 11:41 AM
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This is the correct answer.
/r/Divorce_Men04/05/26 11:38 AM
3

You can find closure. The thing is, you won’t get it from her. Once you have grieves through the pain, you’ll find it easy to let go.
/r/Divorce_Men04/05/26 11:36 AM
0

Being with multiple people won’t make a difference. The fact is, not everyone wants the simple life. What’s important is to find a compatible person who has the same values.
/r/Divorce_Men04/05/26 11:35 AM
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What would be the purpose of sending her flowers?
/r/Divorce_Men30/04/26 09:02 AM
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Do I just keep being stoic and carry on or do I reach out and offer an olive branch. I don't the value of the stoic stuff, so I can't answer that. But it appears you like to suffer. Cut down your interactions to logistics.
/r/Divorce_Men28/04/26 02:22 PM
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He is most likely an adult. So, no.
/r/Divorce_Men27/04/26 09:03 PM
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She uses me for what? What makes you think she doesn’t pay?
/r/Divorce_Men24/04/26 04:26 AM
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Go where you want to go. For example, I enjoy a good drink in a hotel bar. I often go by myself. So, I will tell a woman to meet me there. The same way, just tell her to come to whatever it is you do - as long as it's not too elaborate.
/r/Divorce_Men23/04/26 10:43 PM
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I don’t have the same problems as you do but I’m aware many guys struggle. It’s possible to change but most don’t want to. They think 10 rude women is a reason to quit meeting more females.
/r/MensRights23/04/26 09:29 PM
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The reality is, a lot of people are successful. Based on your comments, you don’t know much about attracting women. It sounds as if you don’t even ask women out.
/r/MensRights23/04/26 06:25 PM
-4

It’s possible that you mostly interact with people who are also not successful with dating.
/r/MensRights23/04/26 02:37 PM
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No, it does not concern anyone. There are great men and women finding each other everyday. It’s mostly the Internet crowd that’s complaining about dating.
/r/MensRights23/04/26 12:49 PM
1

The question is, after all this, what are you going to do next?
/r/Divorce_Men23/04/26 05:39 AM
1

He doesn’t appreciate what he’s got.
/r/MensRights22/04/26 06:47 PM
-1

It sounds like you don’t appreciate what you’ve got.
/r/MensRights21/04/26 04:07 PM
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I have people who care about me. And I care about myself. And when I have been down financially, family has helped. At the same time, I know that as an adult I have to figure things out for myself. I’m not much interested in people’s sympathy for me. So in your case, I cannot see what your problem is.
/r/MensRights21/04/26 04:06 PM
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It’s very common for addicts to idealize their enablers. She’s not perfect like how you paint her. But of course, that does not excuse your behaviour. Yeahs, so stay clean, give yourself time.
/r/Divorce_Men21/04/26 01:55 AM
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It's up to you. Do as many free one as you can then. Speak to as many as you can. You may get lucky otherwise, or you may not. The thing is, you will have to live with the results either way.
/r/Divorce_Men21/04/26 12:26 AM
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and has almost 20 years experience. This means nothing. You have to get to a point where if you lawyer disappered in a middle of a hearing, you would be able to take over in a heartbeat. Now, not everybody cares that much, so maybe you don't either. But the reason why most fathers lose is that, as you can tell from the downvotes and responses, they are not willing to go above and beyond to get the outcome they want. Bear in mind that every case hardens over time. 90% of your results are dictated…
/r/Divorce_Men21/04/26 12:08 AM
1

The time is not lost. It takes a lot more time and effort to win than most fathers realize. If you have a lot more to loose, that amount of money will save your life. In any event, many lawyers give free consultations. So you get as many of those as you can. Now, let’s get realistic. If $6000 is a problem for you, you can’t afford a lawyer who will fight your case through. This means, you have to educate yourself even more about the process. Your instructions and preparation have to be more deta…
/r/Divorce_Men20/04/26 04:35 PM
0

It’s not about finding a good fit. And there’s no logic to the number you have given. Why only two or three?
/r/Divorce_Men20/04/26 03:21 PM
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Speak to more than one lawyer. I suggest 25 lawyers, an hour each, for the best perspective. But as many as you can. Definitely three is the bare minimum. Don’t take chances.
/r/Divorce_Men20/04/26 07:14 AM
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The question is not whether the degree holds value. The question is, does your daughter have the stamina and discipline to make it valuable?
/r/Divorce_Men19/04/26 06:59 PM
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This videos are staged. Surely you know this. I see the illustrations but women are not interested in Clavicular.
/r/MensRights17/04/26 05:08 AM
1

So you lowered your standards only to find out she went even lower?
/r/Divorce_Men13/04/26 08:48 PM
1

It's always subjective. Yes, if she is not 10/10 in your eyes you are deceiving her and you are deceiving yourself.
/r/Divorce_Men13/04/26 08:47 PM
-8

Why did you get with a female you only rate 7/10?
/r/Divorce_Men13/04/26 03:43 PM
1

It does not matter it’s not a metric. The words you’re using are part of the denial. Do you actually want the problem solved?
/r/Divorce_Men13/04/26 03:39 PM
0

The root cause is that these males are not raised to be emotionally independent. One metric is this sub. All the complaints are for the most part inadvertent results of emotional deficiencies. These are so common that they’re seen as normal and therefore not addressed. The first person a man leads is himself.
/r/Divorce_Men13/04/26 06:19 AM
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The problem is that modern males don’t want to be honest about their lack of leadership skills and lack of self-confidence. Your comment is a reflection of that problem. No matter how you rationalise it, until your address the issues directly, the difficulties will persist.
/r/Divorce_Men12/04/26 03:49 AM
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The common experience is that a couple of generations of males have been raised to be emotionally deficient. These males don’t understand that they are overly-sensitive to every unpleasant feeling. And they don’t know how to lead.
/r/Divorce_Men12/04/26 12:10 AM
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It’s not pretending. It’s managing your emotions. You want your boss to come cry to you when things are looking bad for the company? Or you want him to fix it without you knowing there was never trouble in the first place?
/r/Divorce_Men11/04/26 09:54 PM
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What’s strange about it? That’s the whole point of being a man. If it was about the easy parts, there would be nothing special about leadership.
/r/Divorce_Men11/04/26 01:23 PM
1

We are on topic. He is facing the possibility of divorce - a likelihood of divorce. He must prepare. So we’re sharing insights on that.
/r/Divorce_Men06/04/26 04:41 PM
1

You should be talking about the process not being fair. This is why so many fathers lose. The judge is not going to come to this sub and read the comments while making a decision. In the end, there is a reality you have to face. I have seen many fathers ignore it. Which also explains why so many lose.
/r/Divorce_Men06/04/26 04:19 PM
1

It makes no sense to you, which is why you are in this situation. That’s the whole point. Until you realize your mistakes you will keep getting these results - it’s not over yet.
/r/Divorce_Men06/04/26 04:17 PM
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You are right to notice that you’re making assumptions. There is nothing about incriminating anyone - these are civil proceedings. I am not saying to panic, I am saying understand where you’re at. Don’t be surprised if you ignore preparation and end up seeing your kids every other weekend.
/r/Divorce_Men06/04/26 04:14 PM
1

Hope is a losing strategy in family courts.
/r/Divorce_Men06/04/26 04:13 PM
1

That’s in your mind. If the process was fair to fathers, this sub would not exist.
/r/Divorce_Men06/04/26 04:12 PM
2

Yeah, and help her buy more time and gather evidence against him. What she’s done is enough to be let go of.
/r/Divorce_Men05/04/26 12:22 AM
3

Now, I would say divorce. Not just because of what she said but because of all the other things you said. In my experience, females do stuff to test the waters. Then they plan based on reaction. Most fathers I have worked with get blindsided- many ignore the warnings even when they come for advice. Here’s what I will tell you - start seeking legal advice now. If you want to keep seeing your kids and to raise them, you must start building your case immediately. And the odds against fathers seem t…
/r/Divorce_Men05/04/26 12:21 AM
1

Yes it is since you asked about it.
/r/Divorce_Men04/04/26 11:11 PM
0

Some may be against abortion as a punishment to feminists. I am against abortion because I don’t believe in killing children in the womb. My view has nothing to do with feminism, and while I don’t support that ideology, I would support them in this if they were against abortion. I understand there are few situations where it’s a matter of immediate survival of the mother. Most people who are against abortion understand those circumstances and don’t seek to penalize in those situations. There is …
/r/MensRights04/04/26 07:48 PM
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I don’t worry about things like that. I have a very clear idea of what I am looking for. I ignore any female that doesn’t fit my criteria.
/r/Divorce_Men04/04/26 07:12 PM
1

Which system is it?
/r/Divorce_Men04/04/26 05:49 PM
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You also have issues which is what got you into this situation. The point is not to assign blame but to accept responsibility. You chose her - and whatever she did wrong does excuse your lack of self-respect.
/r/Divorce_Men04/04/26 05:48 PM
1

No, you didn’t need it in the first place. ChatGPT is not a good tool for court cases. I work to help fathers in court and many loose because they use ChatGPT
/r/Divorce_Men04/04/26 03:51 PM
2

It does not work like a charm. You probably missed a lot of opportunities if you got a good result.
/r/Divorce_Men04/04/26 03:16 PM
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Using LLM bots will only make things worse for you. You need to develop your own sense of self and power. A bot cannot solve these problems for you.
/r/Divorce_Men04/04/26 03:15 PM
2

What’s good money though?
/r/Divorce_Men03/04/26 11:38 PM
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If you're doing your PhD just because you want to do it, then by all means, do that. But your ex may have a point. Also, "much" is relative.
/r/Divorce_Men03/04/26 11:23 PM
4

You’re welcome.
/r/Divorce_Men02/04/26 11:12 AM
0

No, meeting other women won’t address his neediness. He will still act needy when he goes out. And he does not know how to meet women anyway. So he won’t even do that. He must deal with his mindset, emotional wellbeing, and lack of self-love first.
/r/Divorce_Men02/04/26 11:11 AM
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What about her character makes her the love of your life?
/r/Divorce_Men02/04/26 04:28 AM
0

What makes her the love of your life?
/r/Divorce_Men02/04/26 03:50 AM
2

Meet other women. That's not the solution. Yes, it's an important thing to do but it won't solve OP's problem. OP must first address his neediness.
/r/Divorce_Men02/04/26 03:05 AM
2

Loyal to what?
/r/Divorce_Men02/04/26 03:04 AM
3

I have never believed in spending money on women. And, when I started dating I didn’t even have my own place. So this was never an issue for me. I discovered very early that when a woman wants you, she will spend money on you.
/r/Divorce_Men02/04/26 12:43 AM
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I have never encountered this. I don’t put myself in such situations. While I don’t mind paying, I don’t go to places where I have to spend money because I prefer for women to come see me at home.
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/26 12:07 PM
1

There should be. The cameras will emit radio waves so that should be detectable. If they're wired, they could cause still interference and of course the wires could be traced. I'm not an expert but speak to someone in a repair shop. There should be tools you can use to sweep for these cameras.
/r/Divorce_Men31/03/26 09:16 PM
1

I dont want sex. Then why did you go on a date? I told her how fresh this was and I just wanted to go out as friends because I needed a break from moving. How is that any of her business? I just wanted a new friend That's not how to make friends. At this stage, it looks like you either face yourself or find a good therapist who understands male issues.
/r/Divorce_Men31/03/26 08:57 PM
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Aren't the tools you can use to detect them?
/r/Divorce_Men31/03/26 07:36 PM
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Don’t waste your time on arguing with teachers. Figure out how you can create an advantage for yourself. Once you are in position of power, use that to help others. In the end, it does not matter who has it harder.
/r/MensRights30/03/26 08:17 PM
1

Recent studies have an agenda. You will be surprised how quickly the hormonal stuff disappears when the female see her favourite singer or the new guy at her job.
/r/Divorce_Men30/03/26 05:19 PM
1

Why would the marriage not happen if somebody was so awful in bed? If the guy can compensate with enough money and attention, she will endure it. The side guy doesn’t not vanish into the ether when you say, “I do.”
/r/Divorce_Men30/03/26 05:18 PM
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None of the above. Females are aware from a young age that divorce is a viable option for a comfortable life. Most males also believe that their role is to provide and protect. So they make it clear to the female how much they can give her. She then chooses a mate based on that. Of course, she has to pretend she is what he wants. He falls for it. When she can take the marriage any longer (because she underestimated how much she’d hate it) she’s out. She was never interested in the first place. S…
/r/Divorce_Men30/03/26 05:16 PM
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You are now attacking me. And deflecting. Not only that, you’re the one insisting on a tradition, and I’m telling you that you can free yourself from that belief. Exactly proving my point. So carry on. This was your chance to change your life. But you prefer to stay a victim.
/r/MensRights30/03/26 04:56 PM
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There we go. As I said, males will rather choose victimhood than correct their behaviour. First of all, most people on the planet, and even in the United States, UK, or other so called-wealthy nations, don’t make six figures. So there’s that. Second, most males are clueless when it comes to sex and dating. This includes married men. So, if you don’t know how to attract women, you will blame external factors. But the truth is, women don’t want you. And you’re not willing to change that.
/r/MensRights30/03/26 04:22 PM
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That’s not true. You believe and many males believe it but it’s not true. And I know you’ll argue that it’s true. That’s exactly what I am saying. Even if you were a millionaire it won’t make you more attractive to women.
/r/MensRights30/03/26 04:11 PM
0

You don’t need to make so much even to be considered for marriage. That’s my point. Society has most males fooled - but you know what they say.
/r/MensRights30/03/26 04:03 PM
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Fair points. At the same time, males are raised that they must protect and provide for females. Women are not raised with that. But in the end, it’s a ridiculous classification of problems. That’s what makes it effective- both males and females fall for attacks of their identities. In reality, it comes down to your class, your community, and your family. What the laws say on paper and how they are implemented are two different things. The real danger is in the psychological manipulation that mak…
/r/MensRights30/03/26 03:12 PM
1

Being married does not meet you should be needy. There is a difference between missing someone and seeking that person’s approval. I don’t know who the people you are talking about are. And I don’t care either. You might want to answer for yourself, why another person’s validation matters to you so much. Consider that while your ex wife might be wrong, you are probably wrong too.
/r/Divorce_Men28/03/26 09:11 AM
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Or, she never cared in the first place. Many guys force their way into marriage by persisting through rejections, disrespect, and flakiness. They finally show they can provide financially and the woman settles after she’s worn down.
/r/Divorce_Men26/03/26 12:21 PM
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The question is, why do you care? Why is her approval and validation so important to you? What’s so special about her that you need her to love you to feel whole?
/r/Divorce_Men26/03/26 12:19 PM
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That's not weakness. That is weakness. That’s exactly how males get themselves into these situations. They don’t know who they are. So they settle for a woman who is not right for them. Worse still, because they don’t accept this attitude as a weakness, they suffer longer than they should. They meet another woman, not as vile as the ex, and they think the improvement is progress. We have to stop accepting mediocre attitudes towards ourselves - and we have to stop having such attitudes too. If yo…
/r/Divorce_Men23/03/26 10:43 PM
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In all my time working at this firm, I have never seen a single man get Legal Aid because they can't ever pass the second test So why don’t they go to the GP? I don’t get the issue here. Go to your GP. Get the form letter from you. The GP signs. That’s it. What’s the problem?
/r/MensRights20/03/26 10:35 PM
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If a woman leaves because someone told her to do that, that’s a favour done to you.
/r/MensRights20/03/26 10:24 PM
2

This is your life, not a Disney movie. All that romantic stuff society has told you is putting you at a big disadvantage. If you ignore the reality, a heartache will be the least of your worries.
/r/Divorce_Men19/03/26 08:08 PM
1

trying to lead us through the storm What storm? How are you leading if you are arguing with her? If it's important, there is no room for argument. If it's trivial, there is no room for argument. You make a decision and follow through. I’m not trying to cut and run That's your mistake. Cut your losses. Run.
/r/Divorce_Men19/03/26 06:18 PM
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we constantly get more and more arguments It's over. She wants to leave but is waiting for you to do it. Even if she wanted to stay, as a man you are the leader. So, talk to your lawyers. Then initiate the divorce.
/r/Divorce_Men19/03/26 05:28 PM
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Totally agree man these things occur because not even men support men Exactly! I will go as far as to say men don't even support themselves in these situations. They only start complaining when things go wrong. But, until it gets real bad, most males don't have a problem with putting females on a pedestal. That's why, if we really want to solve these problems we must look at ourselves first, our own behaviour. Then we work together to change what we can, even if the system doesn't change. Once w…
/r/MensRights19/03/26 09:06 AM
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That’s what I keep saying - nobody cares, including males. Most guys allow all kinds of disrespect so it’s become normal. If you try to kick them out, some guys might even come to their defence.
/r/MensRights18/03/26 09:57 PM
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I know what you have said. Look, it’s your life and it’s a public discussion. I am of the view that all the men right is just heroism behind a keyboard. In real life, males are just accepting mediocre treatment and devaluing themselves. But maybe that’s the best we can have for now.
/r/MensRights18/03/26 02:49 PM
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That’s not what I said. Don’t twist my words. I am saying the kids are watching you become less of who you are. You don’t want to be in the situation. You are acquiescing to things you don’t agree with. You live in fear. All those things are what they are learning from you. And they are watching you shed your true self, day by day, over decades. And what if she leaves you first?
/r/MensRights18/03/26 01:52 PM
1

Why not now? Have you considered she might leave you first? You want your kids watch you become less than yourself?
/r/MensRights18/03/26 12:51 PM
1

Why don’t you get divorced though?
/r/MensRights18/03/26 12:36 PM
1

You have some good points but half of it is from men’s own lacking understanding of dating. Now, I will concede that they have been taught the wrong mindset. But just like we don’t make excuses for females with unhealthy eating habits, we can’t expect females to want males who don’t know how to attract them.
/r/MensRights18/03/26 12:35 PM
3

You only chance in life will come from the moment you truly understand the answer by arriving at it yourself - and letting the truth hit you.
/r/Divorce_Men16/03/26 02:50 AM
8

Do you think it is possible to stay friends To stay friends, you have to be friends in the first place. She is not your friend. Find a good therapist who understands men and does not simply follow societal standards.
/r/Divorce_Men15/03/26 10:55 PM
2

She owns the house It might just be that you both own the house. A lawyer will explain to you. Since that isn't my situation, You don't yet know your situation. Her lawyers have probable advised her to allege abuse since that's the most effective way to seperate your from your children. And that separation ensures she gets paid till they are adults. who do I talk to get ready for the divorce? My best advice is talk to at least 25 lawyers - many do offer free initial consultations. If you can pay…
/r/Divorce_Men14/03/26 04:15 AM
1

What are you saying?
/r/Divorce_Men13/03/26 05:19 PM
1

No, he will then start asking why and so forth. OP needs to start moving differently.
/r/Divorce_Men13/03/26 12:23 PM
5

That’s a waste of time to see if she’s cheating- it won’t change the outcome. So it doesn’t matter. In fact, it’s good for OP because it will slow her down if she is seeing someone else. You are right about the restraining order because that’s usually part of the strategy. OP doesn’t realize how emotional he is. So she will know how to make him look bad. But he needs to figure out his legal standing and move fast.
/r/Divorce_Men13/03/26 01:53 AM
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She is mean and abusive. You’re just so used to it and you don’t see it. That’s how she is able to manipulate you. Talk to your lawyer. My advice is speak to at least 25 lawyers, many give free initial consultations. Most lie, so it will take time to piece a complete picture together. She has the State on her side. For some reason, she needs more time. But she’ll hit when she’s ready. Don’t let her know you know. Move quickly. Prepare. Then serve her the papers.
/r/Divorce_Men13/03/26 01:50 AM
2

The movement is an arm of the government. This includes both right and left wing. Outside the Western nations, the governments use NGOs and similar structures. Domestically, they use the feminists. That’s one of the reasons why it’s so hard to argue against them. It’s like reporting a robbery to a crime boss who sent the goons in the first place.
/r/MensRights11/03/26 11:40 PM
1

The thing is, we are all complicit. Nobody wants to look at the truth. So everyone blames someone else - it just so happens that the women’s movement are more effective at attacking the other side. But we can make the change without waiting for the system. Again, nobody wants to do that because that effort requires looking at yourself first.
/r/MensRights11/03/26 11:34 PM
1

Why would you feel anything? She’s just a stranger who interacted with you in a pub.
/r/Divorce_Men10/03/26 05:58 AM
1

I don’t spend money on women. So I can’t relate. Plus, I don’t sleep with women who don’t want to sleep with me.
/r/Divorce_Men09/03/26 05:24 AM
1

What makes you think I paid?
/r/Divorce_Men09/03/26 04:23 AM
0

Paying for vagina is not pursuing a chick. It’s basically you lowering your value and raising the female above you. Why would you disrespect yourself that way as a man?
/r/Divorce_Men09/03/26 03:58 AM
-9

A high priced escort is so much cheaper No, because you pay a higher price of losing your self-respect.
/r/Divorce_Men09/03/26 02:41 AM
11

People were cheating 5000 years ago. 50000 years ago. And they will cheat 10000 years from now.
/r/Divorce_Men09/03/26 02:40 AM
3

The phone records prove otherwise. She is cheating. But not with the guy who has so much time for her. The phone record is misleading you.
/r/Divorce_Men09/03/26 02:40 AM
17

It’s discrimination because they don’t ask boys if their mother is their girlfriend.
/r/MensRights07/03/26 04:37 PM
13

Why? Why do you try to be an example? What’s so important about their opinions that you have to humiliate yourself?
/r/MensRights07/03/26 05:40 AM
5

Is that a trick question? If you hang with those people, they will always treat you that way. So, you either walk away, or you stay.
/r/MensRights07/03/26 05:39 AM
-2

Stop paying attention to what females say on the Internet. It's just social media nonsense. If you fall for it, it's just a sign you lack confidence.
/r/MensRights07/03/26 01:53 AM
3

I think it's something we should really embrace. This is nothing new. That's how men who know what they are doing have been meeting women since forever. You only worry about spending a lot of money if you follow society.
/r/MensRights07/03/26 01:52 AM
1

Good. So now start respecting yourself. Don’t wait for a woman to disrespect you before you discover your self-worth.
/r/Divorce_Men05/03/26 04:09 PM
3

Build up your sense of self-worth so that you don’t worry about what she does. And learn how to attract women so that you understand that you are better off without her. You do that and you’ll wish you got divorced way sooner.
/r/Divorce_Men05/03/26 04:29 AM
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I don’t think you are honest about your character and values. I also don’t think you are honest in your post. You spent 10 years with this woman - surely the disrespect didn’t start in the last month of your marriage.
/r/Divorce_Men05/03/26 03:38 AM
1

Isn’t Greece the brokest country in Europe? Is there a correlation here?
/r/MensRights05/03/26 03:34 AM
1

I disagree. We have to respect that we are different. Yes, we should be equal under the law. But the issue is the devaluing of the heterosexual family unit - with the father as the head. This process of destroying this unit weakens society. Why are we experiencing it? Because this movement doesn’t want men to lead and most males today don’t want to lead either.
/r/MensRights05/03/26 03:33 AM
3

Have you examined why you did that to yourself?
/r/Divorce_Men04/03/26 07:38 PM
3

I feel like it's delusions of the perfectly crafted life from social media You are correct. At the same time, she wasn't into you. So even if she stayed, she'd be miserable. And you'd have a mediocre relationship.
/r/Divorce_Men04/03/26 06:26 PM
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The guy/man had to have seen some red flags am I right? That's correct. Most males ignore these as long as they can still gain access to some vagina. And the girl/women should have know from the start he is not the right guy, what was she thinking? Which is why men must accept their role as leaders. If the team ain't right, fire the team member that's causing disruption. You can't expect another person to do what's best for you.
/r/Divorce_Men04/03/26 06:25 PM
1

We still were intimate (rarely). Does this mean you had sex? I'm confused about your wording - you do mention fucking in your comment but you're elusive here. So, are you saying you guys still fucked?
/r/Divorce_Men04/03/26 06:23 PM
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On the first night, I felt relieved to be anywhere but in the same house with him. That's most marriages. The biggest mistake males make is that they keep trying. You ask a female out. She says, "I'm not sure when I'll be free." Or she agress to a date but flakes. The correct move is to never contact her again. But, if you persevere, you'll end up in the above situation.
/r/Divorce_Men04/03/26 06:21 PM
0

You are showing the exact attitude that makes it easy for people to take advantage of males. What exactly is your question? Which thread? I don’t even know who you are. Get to the point. Or keep doing what you’re doing if you don’t want help.
/r/MensRights03/03/26 05:02 PM
1

You still haven’t been specific about what I said.
/r/MensRights03/03/26 04:30 PM
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You will have to get specific about what I said. In any event, I became more effective at getting results within the system. My specialisation is fighting for fathers in family courts. I discovered that when a male stops looking for a saviour, he becomes more powerful and it’s harder for the system to take advantage of him. If more males changed their attitudes, the unjust system would break because a man in his natural state is a force beyond what the system can easily handle.
/r/MensRights03/03/26 03:39 PM
0

The changes can only come if we take a different approach. Asking for pity or for people who benefit from your pain to change will never work.
/r/MensRights03/03/26 02:40 PM
1

There are a lot of issues affecting peopling the planet. You can’t keep up with all. And when it comes to men’s rights, as with other issues, many problems are self-inflicted. I know this view is not generally accepted in this sub. And most men’s movements refuse to take responsibility. This lack of responsibility is the root cause of males being susceptible to injustice.
/r/MensRights03/03/26 02:37 PM
0

I'm not asking you to prove anything. Share what you're doing so we can also learn from you.
/r/MensRights03/03/26 12:27 AM
1

That's true but it makes you more effective at getting what you want. So, it does not affect you as much. In many cases, you trancend it.
/r/MensRights03/03/26 12:26 AM
-4

So how are you fighting against the draft?
/r/MensRights02/03/26 11:14 PM
1

The question is, what are you doing to change things?
/r/MensRights02/03/26 11:12 PM
-7

What are you doing to change things, assuming you care?
/r/MensRights02/03/26 10:31 PM
-4

The truth is that we can resolve a lot of issues without systemic change. But everyone, including males, seeks some kind of victim status these days. So once you start sorting yourself out, you share what you have learned, but then nobody cares - so you stop caring too.
/r/MensRights02/03/26 10:29 PM
2

What makes you think she wasn’t going on dates before?
/r/Divorce_Men01/03/26 08:34 PM
2

Read back what you wrote. They kept in touch, right? So why do you think she reached out after the divorce?
/r/Divorce_Men01/03/26 08:31 PM
1

In all this, where did you put yourself first as a man?
/r/Divorce_Men01/03/26 08:17 PM
4

You didn’t have a good run. That’s why she is leaving. But, the good news is, you will learn, get bigger, better, and stronger. The sooner you start celebrating, the better for you.
/r/Divorce_Men01/03/26 08:04 PM
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The Red Pill tries to help men but cannot. The whole movement is based on science that does not apply in real life. In fact, the number of men who truly understand dating dynamics is probably around 1 in 10000. But most people are so bad at dating and relating to women that it’s way better than nothing. It gets you 40% there - most males are satisfied with that.
/r/MensRights01/03/26 08:00 PM
1

I like to be alone. I know that most people won’t be my friends but if I want company I go out and meet people. Some want to talk, others don’t. But right now I real enjoy my own company.
/r/MensRights27/02/26 02:40 AM
1

I will answer your questions. We seem to have agreed that you will answer mine first. You answered one. The other question was, what is it that you want to do that you can’t?
/r/MensRights22/02/26 10:22 PM
0

And I also asked what you are trying to do that you can’t. So what’s the answer?
/r/MensRights22/02/26 09:57 PM
4

You are incorrect. You cannot win a fight unless the male lets you win. Hopefully you’ll never find out this fact in reality.
/r/MensRights22/02/26 05:21 AM
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The women are only as effective as the males who back them in violent situations. Let’s not be hypocritical here. Your anger does not translate into physical strength and fighting ability.
/r/MensRights22/02/26 05:04 AM
2

The benefits of being a man include: enjoying logic without emotion heterosexual relations with women, including sex the opportunity to be a father ability to do difficult physical exercises intense focus on complex tasks being ones most trusted companion having a strong sense of self the power to plan and build There’s more but those are just a few of the many benefits I get from being a man.
/r/MensRights22/02/26 04:21 AM
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What are you saying?
/r/MensRights22/02/26 04:13 AM
-2

There is nothing moral about this. It’s common sense. You can’t even make an eloquent argument. If you disagree, give clear reasoning rather than lash out with no self-control.
/r/MensRights22/02/26 04:12 AM
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Yes you do. You still rely on male police and military for protection. Men are built for combat that’s why we defend. There is nothing respectable about mane on the planet who weighs the same as you that you could be in a fight.
/r/MensRights22/02/26 04:10 AM
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You have a point. We are at a time when males want to be gender neutral. They have been brainwashed by society but don’t realize how deep it goes. Now, it’s true that society is unjust towards males. But these guys just make it easier. And instead of arguing against your points they just insult you. Strange behavior but it’s now clearer why women don’t want them.
/r/MensRights22/02/26 04:07 AM
2

You choose your woman knowing that she looks up to your for certain things. If she is not dedicated to you, let her go. The reality is that your woman and your children will look up to your for protection. So don’t start a family with a female who doesn’t deserve it.
/r/MensRights22/02/26 04:04 AM
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If that’s how you think you’ll never attract high-quality women. Just go for what you want. Stop seeking validation for your desires.
/r/Divorce_Men21/02/26 02:24 PM
2

Thank you for your honesty. Most males are too proud to admit they got played. In reality, many females start planning their divorce before they even meet the guy they’re going to marry.
/r/Divorce_Men21/02/26 12:59 AM
1

The question is, why do males accept being mistreated? Why do we take disrespect and say, please don’t hurt me again. And again. OK, here is another chance. But please don’t leave.
/r/Divorce_Men21/02/26 12:57 AM
1

People always say “yoU miSseD tHe SiGNs”. Not always! You didn’t miss the signs. You ignored them. Does a woman that is planning to buy a house by the sea with her husband show clear signs she is checking out and cheating on you? No. Yes, she does. She also disrespected you and generally looked down on you. But you took it. So don’t like she had somehow even earned the position of your wife or buying the house with you. You just followed what society told you about marriage rather than figuring …
/r/Divorce_Men21/02/26 12:55 AM
1

No, it’s a way to keep you docile. You let your guard down while she is strengthening her case. The shock of her hitting you with a case is stronger if you first fool yourself into thinking everything is good.
/r/Divorce_Men21/02/26 12:52 AM
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We generally get along well, so it's not like a toxic environment or anything. There is no logic here. You also tolerate a lot of disrespect. So, rethink that statement. she doesn't hate me Yes, she does. I don't think she'll try to screw me over in court. Oh, so you think she would only screw you over outside of court, as she is doing now? I'm not sure I can live like this for another year and a half You’ve lived it for at least 20 years so you can take another year and a half. Also, since you …
/r/Divorce_Men21/02/26 12:51 AM
1

LLMs are not good at writing.
/r/MensRights20/02/26 12:29 AM
2

She is not the woman for you. But you’ll still marry her. So it doesn’t matter what would happen in a hypothetical scenario- in reality, you are not going to let her go till she leaves herself.
/r/MensRights20/02/26 12:27 AM
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Is she leaving?? She's already left. Start speaking to lawyers except if you want to get blindsided. You've said several things that shows she's already out but pointing them out will go against your worldview and societally accepted norms. Feel free to revisit this comment once it hits you that what you believed was right, was very wrong.
/r/Divorce_Men17/02/26 05:39 PM
5

He will end up divorced. It’s written all over his post. The problem is, nobody wants to be the messenger.
/r/MensRights17/02/26 02:06 AM
1

It sounds like you are going to get the shock of your life. Based on what you’re saying, you are emotionally dependent on your wife. And her mother despises you. That’s moving you towards a point where you won’t know what hit you. First of all, you need to leave the mother’s house. Then, be ready for your relationships dynamics to change. You haven’t built an independent relationship so you are about to get hurt. If your wife is down with moving, the mother will use her controlling powers to sab…
/r/MensRights17/02/26 02:05 AM
2

I did not really fall into their trap of dating multiple women How did you accomplish that? Did you push away all the women who were interested in you?
/r/ExRedPill15/02/26 11:18 PM
2

What was your answer when she asked you those questions?
/r/MensRights12/02/26 03:19 AM
2

Grieve. Then celebrate. But don’t delay speaking to as many lawyers as you can. This is just the beginning but you have battles ahead.
/r/Divorce_Men11/02/26 03:15 PM
5

Are you just looking to have sex with other women?
/r/Divorce_Men11/02/26 01:33 PM
5

My view is based on years of battling in family courts. Trust your first instincts - if you know she is not right for you, don't let the sex convince you otherwise. If you end up in court, learn everything you can about your case and the law - your lawyer will not fight for you because you can barely afford your lawyer to do the bare minimum. Your lawyer will not tell you this, but it's true. Be clear about why you are getting married, or into a relationship for that matter. Don't get a girlfrie…
/r/Divorce_Men10/02/26 01:20 PM
1

You haven’t answered my question. Let’s have a civil discussion. Answer my questions and I’ll answer yours.
/r/MensRights08/02/26 11:22 AM
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You don’t need a long explanation. You don’t want to see her. That’s it.
/r/Divorce_Men06/02/26 05:55 PM
1

What was it about the relationship that you were trying to save?
/r/Divorce_Men06/02/26 10:01 AM
1

I takes a lot of work. But I’ve since also helped other fathers. Plus, I’ve built a network of people who help fathers get through it as well. So all’s well that ends well.
/r/Divorce_Men06/02/26 07:05 AM
0

What you do is figure it out for yourself. Learn how to attract the kind of women you want. Learn how to manage your relationships. And then you’ll have all the answers and experience you need.
/r/MensRights05/02/26 05:06 PM
1

The reality is most males and females in today's society are childish. They have immature expectations from society. As it stands, the female immaturity seems to have an advantage.
/r/MensRights05/02/26 12:56 PM
2

That's true. But why does it bother you, specifically? What are you trying to do that you can't?
/r/MensRights05/02/26 09:02 AM
2

My lawyer never seemed to be fighting for my rights. Lawyers in real life and lawyers in movies are not the same thing. The honest truth is, most people can't afford to pay the lawyer what it would take to fight to the core. I got rid of my lawyer and represented myself. That's when I started to get results.
/r/Divorce_Men05/02/26 09:01 AM
0

Still, let's be honet. Most of us don't want to be hairdressers. And, while it may be hard, you can still get a job as a hairdresser if you want one. And we do choose the dangerous jobs 'coz we like the adrenaline and the pay is often good. Are you struggling to get a job in childcare? Also, why do you care what they say?
/r/MensRights04/02/26 11:36 AM
6

What’s with the white men part?
/r/MensRights03/02/26 09:18 AM
3

You are waking up. You don’t need to be with anyone to be happy. If a woman deserves to be with you, you will give her the opportunity. But this is the growing up that the males in our society must do. You are good by yourself, and you’re good when a woman earns the title of being your wife or girlfriend. Still, that’s not the source of your happiness. You are the source.
/r/Divorce_Men03/02/26 05:54 AM
3

That’s because it wasn’t love. It was emotional dependence- this has been normalised as love by media and the society. In reality, you’ll be fine. The day you laugh at yourself for being so dramatic is the day you heal.
/r/Divorce_Men03/02/26 05:51 AM
0

"alpha male behavior" based on female approval and getting married/In a relationship with women That's not masculinity. Yes, it's the modern intepretation but intepretations are not necessarily representative of reality. because they know that men will do anything for sex and relationships. That's inaccureate. Insecure males will do anything for sex and relationships. The average male does not have enough dating experience to not be insecure. In practice, most males have never approach even ten …
/r/MensRights02/02/26 06:45 PM
1

I think we will get further ahead if we convince more men to walk away from abusive women and relationships with such women.
/r/MensRights02/02/26 01:27 PM
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In my experience, here is the explanation: males are not allowed or encouraged to be emotionally strong and mature as they grow up they thus grow up to be emotionally brittle and essentially weak society and community place expectations that a mature man can handle - but the male is not mature the symptoms are then confused for causes the male suffers and has no hope of resolving that suffering End so he makes the wrong move.
/r/MensRights02/02/26 07:53 AM
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What I have learned is, that once you learn how dating and attraction really work, you just won’t care. In fact, you will prefer for your ex to be seeing someone.
/r/Divorce_Men02/02/26 07:10 AM
1

If a female says to me that her ex isn’t narcissist, that’s the end of the conversation. But no, it hasn’t happened yet. Also, I don’t join online groups where trivia is discussed.
/r/Divorce_Men01/02/26 06:54 PM
1

You are dodging the questions. You expect him to stay with a domestic abuse perpetrator. And you can’t admit you’re wrong about that.
/r/Divorce_Men01/02/26 12:21 AM
2

Why is it acceptable for OP’s wife to treat him that way but not for a work colleague? For the sake of clarity, it appears that you would expect to be able to abuse your spouse, go to counselling, and that would fix the marriage. Alternatively, if you disagree that your wife should stay with you after that kind of abuse, provide a reason why OP should stay with his spouse, after experiencing this level of domestic abuse.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/26 11:37 AM
1

That was not the question. What I asked was, if a colleague at work did this to you, would you go for counselling?
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/26 08:51 AM
1

You just make sure you educate yourself and think it through yourself. A lawyer is not enough - you must also know what you’re doing. Plus, she may blindside you.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/26 08:49 AM
2

So now you know it’s a trap. She’s going to regroup. You will need to
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/26 06:48 AM
0

I asked a question. What’s the answer?
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/26 06:34 AM
1

This is the correct answer.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/26 05:35 AM
0

If a colleague at work did this to you, would you go for counselling?
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/26 05:34 AM
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You want to continue living like this?
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/26 05:34 AM
1

Tell her to give you a list or any other written document that outlines her position/offer/whatever she wants to discuss. Make sure there’s also a witness regardless. However, if you ask for an agenda beforehand, the meeting will not happen.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/26 05:29 AM
1

That’s true. And while it may be unfair, what would be the benefit of drafting females?
/r/MensRights31/01/26 05:27 AM
1

Yes it does. Speak to some of the Ukrainians your friends are hosting. Have you not noticed they go and come back, and that includes the males?
/r/MensRights30/01/26 11:14 PM
1

Not all the men are serving. As it stands, the fight is in specific areas where men are sent. The country does not see the fighting extend beyond a certain area. The females were not sent out for protection per se
/r/MensRights30/01/26 10:54 PM
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Make sure there’s a witness. Don’t meet her alone.
/r/Divorce_Men30/01/26 07:44 PM
0

If they thought they needed the females, they would have kept them. The politicians knew what they were doing.
/r/MensRights30/01/26 07:40 PM
3

But they are not risking their very existence. Outside of the front-lines, people are still living mostly regular lives. At least, as of now, there is threat that the whole country will be taken over.
/r/MensRights30/01/26 11:19 AM
2

It will be back, probably they double down. They will get more funding because the leftists love all things Ukraine related and it attracts publicity. The past will be ignored and forgotten.
/r/MensRights30/01/26 11:18 AM
6

What makes the guy a complete loser? You seem to be angrier at him than your ex, who actually hurt you.
/r/Divorce_Men30/01/26 09:58 AM
1

Are you down for a live open discussion so we can learn from each other and others can learn too? Just say yes and we’ll setup a stream.
/r/MensRights30/01/26 06:42 AM
1

Look. You are twisting my words. And playing semantics. Are you willing to stand on what you say in a live discussion? Let’s to public so we can see who is being honest - and so men can watch and judge for themselves. After all, you are here to help. Let’s help people with an open discussion. Are you down?
/r/MensRights30/01/26 04:08 AM
1

Please explain. I don’t understand what you mean.
/r/MensRights30/01/26 01:56 AM
1

Look, you know that’s not what I’m saying. But that’s the issue - instead of a proper discussion it’s all an echo chamber and then downvoting any disagreement.
/r/MensRights30/01/26 01:55 AM
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Ok don't leave me hanging That’s not direct and explicit. As they say, truth hurts, you have to directly ask for me to tell you the truth as I see it.
/r/MensRights29/01/26 06:16 PM
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I want to tell you an honest truth. However, it will be heavily downvoted. If you want me to tell you the truth as I see it, tell me explicitly to tell you the truth as I see it.
/r/MensRights29/01/26 04:20 PM
3

If they choose no contact, respect yourself.
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/26 03:26 PM
0

Exactly. But there are real issues to be resolved. Right now they have complete political power. Who is working to bring reason to legislature? Nobody. Criticising memes won’t put people in office. And there’s way more but I’m beginning to believe that no one really wants change.
/r/MensRights29/01/26 03:00 PM
1

I noticed you got some downvotes on your comment too. And that’s my issue. It used to be that the leftist only wanted the same opinions. Now, we have the same echo-chamber problem. And in reality, it looks like nobody, including males, actually wants change. So the femi fanatics win by default.
/r/MensRights29/01/26 02:36 PM
0

Again, I am not denying that there are issues. I have been through a lot of it and do face challenges. My approach is to focus on root causes and resolve them regardless of what the femiz think. For example, anyone who cares about this issue should help themselves, and inspire others to get out of the situations.
/r/MensRights29/01/26 09:23 AM
1

I am not denying that there are issues. The problem we have is that males are essentially using the same mindset as the femiz movement. Which is, seek victimhood above self-reliance. Males have abandoned the idea of being male as opposed to being female. Instead it’s “women can do this, but men can’t” Or “dating is broken.” And so forth. But very few go beyond posting and criticizing memes and social media posts behind anonymous accounts. They will submit to a female, put her on a pedestal, then…
/r/MensRights29/01/26 07:32 AM
1

You have some good points. But the solution is not raging about nonsense online. All the people against what I’m saying will abandon the idea of men’s right if an attractive enough female showed them interest.
/r/MensRights29/01/26 05:10 AM
1

Women are females. Check any biology textbook with human anatomy in it. Still, it appears males don’t understand that they are adopting female behaviors which makes life harder for them. OP is a typical example.
/r/MensRights29/01/26 05:08 AM
1

It doesn’t matter. You are putting those things above yourself. That’s what makes the process harder.
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/26 05:06 AM
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This does not support men. It’s just a pointless argument with someone who will never change her mind. I do understand that pandering gets likes and clicks but it’s useless in real life.
/r/MensRights29/01/26 05:04 AM
-1

Yeah, but why does it matter? Why would you even waste a moment thinking about it?
/r/MensRights29/01/26 05:02 AM
1

What’s your point?
/r/MensRights29/01/26 05:02 AM
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Now let’s translate your post into how this translates into improving men’s rights. So, how does getting bothered by this inconsequential female help men’s rights?
/r/MensRights29/01/26 12:07 AM
1

It’s the other way round. Until you start respecting yourself, things will never straighten out. And you will keep losing things that are rightfully yours.
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/26 12:03 AM
2

The bad in her is irrelevant. What you have to remember is your worth. You are valuable as a man. You must really that. Once you rediscover your self-worth and self-respect, you simply won’t allow yourself to be in that kind of situation.
/r/Divorce_Men28/01/26 05:50 PM
3

Even after all of that, if she said she wants to drop the divorce and work on our marriage, I probably would and she knows that. Which is why she does not respect you - she can treat you in the most humiliating way and you would still take her back.
/r/Divorce_Men28/01/26 03:48 PM
2

Did you read the post? Imagine it was a male friend who treated you that way. Would you be thinking of reconcilliation? Would you accept this behaviour?
/r/Divorce_Men28/01/26 03:46 PM
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a 2 hour session of throwing a tantrum degrading me At least you recognize there is a problem. i got her coffee and came home Yeah, she knows you will never hold up your boundaries. That's probably the reason why she chose you. If you quit being a doormat, that will only speed up her moving away from you. for the past 2 hours we have calmly talked about how divorce is whats needed for us. In the circles of people who act like your ex, it's known as "market feedback." The more you open up, the mo…
/r/Divorce_Men28/01/26 03:44 PM
1

When you have sex, having a child is not about fault. It’s about biological reality. You can’t view everything through the lens of legislature. You know she can get pregnant. So when she does, you take responsibility. I understand females also refuse responsibility in the name of autonomy. That does not make it right. You don’t realize it, but this kind of thinking is part of what put males in the position they are in.
/r/MensRights27/01/26 05:33 PM
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The fact that our society takes away accountability from females does not mean that males should follow. If a female acts irresponsible, how does a male doing the same make it right? This degree of childishness won’t help anyone.
/r/MensRights27/01/26 05:21 PM
10

Nobody.
/r/MensRights27/01/26 01:48 AM
1

we are writing a story documenting the injustice fathers face at the hands of the family courts. I am interested in that. Your profile is blocked for me (UK.) How can I reach you? Can you DM?
/r/MensRights27/01/26 12:25 AM
1

You are mostly correct. But it's just mental laziness on the part of politicians. Look at Trump, Mamdani, and Farage - each of these guys took a different angle from what's commonly discussed. On a fundamental level, males are also complicit. The moment a female gives one attention, they forget all about rights, boundaries, and such. It's like the females who abandon their friend group as soon as they meet a guy they like. The core problem is not even political. Males don't want to accept that t…
/r/MensRights27/01/26 12:19 AM
1

The problem is that the training data is corrupt. That's what people who worship LLM bots don't understand. They think they are interacting with Jarvis. And governments use these bots to make decisions!
/r/MensRights26/01/26 11:26 PM
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Why are you paying attention to ChatGPT? Know your boundaries. You don't need a bot to give you approval.
/r/MensRights26/01/26 11:23 PM
2

Is it even possible for a woman to love a man for "who" he is? Yes, it's possible. And it's common among confident males. For a female to want or love you for you who you are, you have to be your true self first. As you will see from the comments that follow, most males refuse the idea of being themselves. For example, they will hide their sexual desires. Instead, they buy dinners then offer time and attention, perhaps even a relationship to get sex. These males conform to societal paradigms, an…
/r/MensRights26/01/26 11:03 PM
1

It all depends. For example, how likely is she to suddenly change the arrangements? If she gets upset and does that, you may struggle to see your kid for a while. Not that acquiescing will necessarily avoid that, but it’s still something to consider. Then, if the call length bothers you that much, establish the plan in the beginning. Let her know that you’re doing something with the kid in 20 mins, for example.
/r/Divorce_Men26/01/26 04:00 PM
10

That’s not true. A female can still exert lethal force, especially when the victim is unsuspecting.
/r/MensRights25/01/26 08:46 AM
2

Relax. Find somewhere where you can get angry without repercussions. You are doing fine.
/r/Divorce_Men25/01/26 07:18 AM
1

Women only make those videos to get attention from males. Obviously it’s working. But in reality they don’t care.
/r/MensRights25/01/26 05:01 AM
-1

A boy’s behaviour and a man’s behaviour are two different things. A man cannot be effective if he doesn’t know how to curb his emotions.
/r/MensRights25/01/26 03:16 AM
1

Most of the comments here are not making it easier for anyone . It’s just complaining about inconsequential things. Validation and then going back to the same habits. And lack of personal responsibility. But you didn’t answer the question. Can someone else make push-ups easier for you?
/r/MensRights25/01/26 01:40 AM
1

That’s because so many are looking to someone else to make it easier for them. Can someone else make push-ups easier for you?
/r/MensRights25/01/26 01:26 AM
1

All men can make it alone. That’s the definition of a man. It’s not a pleasant one but being a man means you’re an adult- adults are most effective when they can handle and regulate their own emotions. This doesn’t mean we must be hermits or to isolate ourselves. It also does not mean we can’t ask for help. But the help must put us in position to support ourselves. It’s like you can’t ask somebody to study your school work for you. You can cheat and pass but you still don’t know what you need to…
/r/MensRights25/01/26 01:04 AM
1

That’s good. You’ll learn how to support yourself. That’s what being a man is about. And once you mature, you will find it easy to go out and meet new people.
/r/MensRights25/01/26 12:48 AM
2

I can relate. However, you must grieve all that and let it all go.
/r/MensRights25/01/26 12:15 AM
2

Right. In any event, what’s masculinity?
/r/MensRights24/01/26 05:45 PM
1

. Men work more outside the home, so we are children raised without a father figure This part is inaccurate. One does not naturally follow the other. A father can even be away for extended periods of time but if he chose the right woman, his presence will remain in his household. He will still be an influence. A man does not need to be around constantly for children to revere him and learn from him. The issue is that both males and females diminish the father's roles. Males to do it to avoid ups…
/r/MensRights24/01/26 04:35 PM
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As a child you can’t hit a girl (rightfully so,) Aha - there you have it. You are doing it too. Why is it "rightfully so?" Can't boys defend themselves? Your female coworker can be nasty to you, say what’s on her mind, have an attitude, do a poor job and that’s ok. That's to you. Not to me. She will be checked if she decides to cross a boundary. But most males allow it because they are afraid of repercussions. So we then have a feedback loop that keeps perpertuating the problem. Also, males care…
/r/MensRights24/01/26 04:25 PM
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Don’t use ChatGTP. You would be taking too much risk with your life. Either pay a lawyer or put in the hours you to study what you need to do.
/r/Divorce_Men24/01/26 02:17 PM
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You are dodging my question. I never said there were no issues. My point is, you can resolve them or get what you want out of life nonetheless. And regardless of the structural issues, if you don’t know how to attract women, even if the issues disappear, you still won’t get women. Now, answer my question.
/r/MensRights24/01/26 01:04 PM
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Read my first sentence. That answers your last question. Then read the rest of my comment. Use your common sense and you will have the answer to the question about a criminal situation. Finally, if you slipped and fell, and accidentally your dick ended up inside her, then consider that an accident. I still won’t accept abortion but I can’t hold you liable for an accident. But if, as an adult, you choose to have sex, do understand that there are no accidents. A pregnancy is the natural result eve…
/r/MensRights24/01/26 12:29 PM
0

So are you going to make a point or you’ll just leave it as an ad hominem attack? Why can’t you believe that there are men who have resolved these issues for themselves?
/r/MensRights24/01/26 12:19 PM
5

It was Dave Chapelle.
/r/MensRights24/01/26 05:34 AM
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Both parents should take responsibility. Condoms and other contraception should be used. If they fail, then the parents must take care of the child. That’s what being responsible is. Yes, a paternity test is fair. But sex is not a game.
/r/MensRights24/01/26 05:34 AM
1

how do you all take this? I have made it clear: I don't share chores. If I want to do them, I will do them. If something needs to be done, and she can't do it, and she asks nicely, I might do it. But to divide chores? Nope. I don't do that. Oh wait, what about that time I didn't have a job and she was responsible for all the bills. Same thing applies. The thing is, I don't see it as a big deal to walk away from a relationship if it's working for me. I often see people frown upon or harshly criti…
/r/MensRights24/01/26 04:23 AM
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Why does it happen that every time I'm sad or depressed, women take that as me being angry or annoyed? I have never really cared enough to know if this is true. There is no consequence or importance to how a female takes my personal feelings.
/r/Divorce_Men24/01/26 04:09 AM
1

And males too. Most guys can’t accept their neediness, for example.
/r/Divorce_Men23/01/26 10:44 AM
3

You don’t love each other. Once you realize that, it will be easier to move on. Assuming you’re telling the truth, she might keep you hooked for a while. Also, your divorce might not be as easy as you state if she wants more. So you have to first let go of the emotional dependency.
/r/Divorce_Men23/01/26 10:43 AM
5

You broke up with her. Why are we not moving on to other things?
/r/MensRights23/01/26 10:14 AM
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You’ve got it all wrong. First of all, the weight loss had nothing to do with it. It’s just something she chose to do but she was already out at that point. That’s the first step to understanding what happened.
/r/Divorce_Men23/01/26 09:27 AM
3

I always have a support system. Wherever I go, there I am. And there it is.
/r/Divorce_Men23/01/26 12:04 AM
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It’s good you’re posting your story. Too many men downvote and discard warnings while they are still enamored with their ex. And then they get blindsided, warn others, get downvoted and the cycle continues.
/r/Divorce_Men23/01/26 12:02 AM
3

You can rationalize it however you want it. Adults, male and female, must take responsibility. I understand the modern sentiment for everything to be fun and pleasant, but that's not how reality works.
/r/MensRights22/01/26 10:04 PM
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The child deserves protection from the parents.
/r/MensRights22/01/26 08:25 PM
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No. That’s not what I mean. My words were explicit. There’s no other meaning.
/r/MensRights22/01/26 05:55 PM
1

I disagree. I don’t accept abortion either. If you decide to have sex, you must take full responsibility if your precautions don’t work.
/r/MensRights22/01/26 05:44 PM
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any commentary is welcome Stop settling for females who don’t respect you.
/r/Divorce_Men21/01/26 03:20 PM
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Clearly you don’t care either.
/r/Divorce_Men21/01/26 02:32 PM
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You get what you put into it. Most guys complain, regardless if there’s divorce or single, because they think getting rejected by 3 women in a row is a sign that dating is broken. Or, more accurately, they stop making moves on new women after the first rejection. Also, you have to love yourself first. If you’re the kind of guy who wants to make up after a fight, you’ll struggle.
/r/Divorce_Men21/01/26 02:32 PM
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I would be one of those. I just don't rock that way.
/r/MensRights21/01/26 05:05 AM
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And I don’t care about how you feel about me. Instead of asking questions so you can improve your results, you’re putting me down. That’s the choice you made.
/r/MensRights20/01/26 10:40 PM
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Nah, that would be a problem for me. Boundaries must be respected.
/r/MensRights20/01/26 10:39 PM
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No, it’s not luck. I put in a lot of time and effort into attracting women. Also, I don’t date females who would not spend money on me but often they offer something first. Dating is not easy. It’s just a cultural expectation based on Hollywood and past traditions perhaps. But it takes work to attract someone who meets your standards.
/r/MensRights20/01/26 10:34 PM
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I think getting physical affection from the homies is also a great idea of something to promote in male spaces. Nah, I am not with that. If a homie tries to cuddle with me, he will wish he hadn't.
/r/MensRights19/01/26 11:44 PM
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We need to put an end to the stigma around men receiving physical affection; I never thought there was a stigma. But it's a problem if you're the happies when receiving female affection. I love women and I will keep dating as many as I desire for as long as I desire. Still, they're not a source of happiness for me. It's childish to expect any other person to make you happy.
/r/MensRights19/01/26 11:43 PM
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I'm just tired of only being defined by my financial worth as a man Then don’t define yourself that way. Spend some time learning how to attract women. Most of these problems come from males not realizing that you must put in work to attract the females you want. Females get attention but they also struggle to find men they really want. In general, I attract women who make more money than I do. They always spend way more money on me than I do on them. That’s because I don’t spend money on women.…
/r/MensRights19/01/26 09:57 PM
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Friendly, but not friends. That's the mature attitude. The whole idea of friendship with your ex is socity's influence based on Hollywood ideals. Pretending that someone who essentially was wrong for you somehow deserves the title of friendship is ridiculous. Heck, even if we were together we're not friends. Marriage/having kids together that's a whole different institution. Also, I've seen guys end male friendships for things that they allow their ex to keep doing.
/r/Divorce_Men19/01/26 09:03 PM
1

Accept that she made the decision a couple of years before she told you. That will out things in perspective. And, start focusing on doing things for yourself that you have neglected.
/r/Divorce_Men19/01/26 12:37 PM
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It depends. If I am trying to get attention online, I would bring up crimes that females tend to dominate- situations where the victim is very vulnerable. In real life, I get on with things that matter.
/r/MensRights19/01/26 11:44 AM
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If you want to leave the relationship, do that.
/r/Divorce_Men19/01/26 11:05 AM
3

I’d argue that a threat of divorce is grounds for divorce.
/r/Divorce_Men15/01/26 07:08 PM
2

In Michigan, do children make a difference as to who gets the house?
/r/Divorce_Men15/01/26 05:11 PM
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However, you need to decide if you want to go back into that house. It's a good idea to think. And he must find out if him leaving means he chose to leave. In other words, he might be giving up any rights to the house without knowing it. As usual, legal advice from multiple layers is King.
/r/Divorce_Men14/01/26 08:52 PM
1

but when she says things 10 times beyond tolerance level I say it back like your father your mother How is she in position to do that? Do you just sit there and listen? In any event, mirroring an abusive person makes things worse. My wife is fed up with me and this marriage. Wait, you're not?
/r/Divorce_Men14/01/26 04:40 AM
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My lawyer is recommending me not go through with the contempt hearing. What's your lawyers reasoning? In any event, it's usually best to have a solid understanding of the law before instructing your lawyer. Plus, if his heart is not in it, you may have to find someone else. I don't know your circumstances but in general, if you can win a case, win it. Even if we go to trial, I doubt the judge is going to throw her in jail or something over it. He won't. But there maybe another way to order your …
/r/Divorce_Men14/01/26 04:37 AM
1

see if it's legal to record her maybe? It could potentially help - or not. There's case law on this and the circumstance matter. The problem though is that OP has to understand the full scope of the situation. When I was going through my situation, I had to let go of the lawyer because she was either lying to me or not giving me all the truth. Their code of ethics doesn't seem to allow them to "predict the future." So even though they know what's coming, they can't really tell you (or so it seem…
/r/Divorce_Men12/01/26 11:26 PM
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I’m tired of society telling me what I have to do. Why are you listening?
/r/MensRights12/01/26 09:47 PM
2

Why does he have to leave? That's not the solution That is the solution. There is no reason to stay in an abusive relationship. And there is a child involved too. Why would OP create an even more hurtful environment?
/r/Divorce_Men12/01/26 07:55 PM
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What's the solution then? The solution cannot fit into a comment. Essentially, OP will have to dedicate a lot of time into resolving this situation. He must leave but strategically. Else, he will get into an even deeper situation.
/r/Divorce_Men12/01/26 07:38 PM
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If you don't snap back it will continue. If she calls you names you do the same. OP is in the UK. That's not how life works here. In the courts, that will contribute to him losing access to his child. Don't let her stomp you for the sake of the kid. That's correct but mirroring an abusive female's behaviour is not the solution either.
/r/Divorce_Men12/01/26 07:32 PM
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Here is the truth: even with all that you have said, she can still take your kid away from you she does not respect you, never has, never will - letting go of all the illusions will help you what you need to do the system is such that, solicitors won't tell you the truth because most males don't want to hear it anyway. I have seen many fathers thinking their case is different, solicitors telling them you can't predict the future, and then assuming things will work out nicely. Read through this a…
/r/Divorce_Men12/01/26 07:30 PM
3

Men will always find women's high body count disgusting. Not always. I don't know what a high body count is - and I don't care.
/r/MensRights10/01/26 01:03 AM
1

Most of us find out how sick and unfair it is as the first lawyer consult. This is not true. Lawyers often don't present the full picture. Often, they give their clients false hope. Ask me how I know.
/r/Divorce_Men09/01/26 06:25 PM
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Marriage means nothing to so many now. Incorrect. Marriage has always been a strategic alliance. It was the comfortable females and the pandering males who told the story of love and butterflies. That's the modern narrative. However, at the core, females still understand that it's a strategic alliance.
/r/Divorce_Men09/01/26 06:24 PM
1

you married for better or worse: she married for Better Get What I Want. Exactly. 90% of male problems is based on the belief that somehow males and females think the same. We don't. We never have. We never will. On the flip side, it means that males must learn how females think (females do this from childhood.) But most won't make the effort because they trust that societal structure will make that unnecessary. Hence the woe of the modern male existince.
/r/Divorce_Men09/01/26 06:22 PM
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I’ve just been sitting with the pain of it. That's the most important part of it. What I realized through this process was that the family court sitution was inevitable. I didn't know how to value myself as a man. So I attracted a female who took advantage of that.
/r/Divorce_Men09/01/26 06:00 PM
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No, you’re just trying to rationalise the situation. The truth remains the same regardless of how you feel about it.
/r/MensRights08/01/26 04:33 PM
1

This dismissal leads to male victims and female perpetrators not being taken seriously. You actually make a good point here. What experience got you to this point?
/r/MensRights07/01/26 03:30 PM
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What beliefs have I ascribed? You are talking about organizing but won't lift a finger. It's not just you - that's the whole male movement.
/r/MensRights07/01/26 03:28 PM
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None of the males complaininng understand. That's why they are complaining. This is nothing new - 10 years from now you will see more of the same complaining as there was 10 years ago. And they will think it's a new thing. You made a post. It will be forgotten shortly. Neither you nor anybody else complaining will do anything. And the rest of us, who are happy, can't help those who don't want to help themselves.
/r/MensRights07/01/26 03:15 PM
1

Sure. But funding is not the biggest problem. If you solve the biggest problem, the funding will come if you work towards it.
/r/MensRights07/01/26 03:06 PM
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Everyone has something to lose. And now you know what the issue is. Everybody is comfortable enough. So besides whining about females, nobody will do anything. And the harsh reality is that 80% of the troubles are self-inflicted. The moment you start fighting for things, you will realize this. But nobody wants to admit their flaws. That's why it's hard to take this whole thing seriously.
/r/MensRights07/01/26 02:03 PM
1

So what is stopping you from organising?
/r/MensRights07/01/26 12:49 PM
0

You don’t need to get defensive. I am attacking your position. Your whole premise is based on wrong criteria. The goal is to show you that you don’t have enough experience that’s why you see the dynamics the way you do. I am not denying that that’s what happens to you. But you are not much more advanced than the average male when it comes to dealing with females. That’s not an attack on you - yet it’s a reality that might be to painful for you to accept. Consider the Allegory of the Cave to gras…
/r/MensRights07/01/26 11:35 AM
1

The problem is most men don’t want the truth. Look at it this way. We all recognise that females are the cause of many relationship troubles. A lot of their problems are self-inflicted. Guess what? The same thing applies to males. But they can’t accept or even consider that they have weaknesses. So the influencers pander because that’s what the audiences want!
/r/Divorce_Men07/01/26 02:55 AM
1

but now she says she doesn’t. After all that you've written, why are you still having this discussion with her? we still do have a really good friendship What are the top three things that make it worth all the other stuff you're going through?
/r/Divorce_Men07/01/26 02:09 AM
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I don't know if I'm allowed to post a resource here but I have an associate in the United States (I'm in the UK) who has all kinds of material that might just be exactly what you need. If you DM me I'll tell his social media so you can look it up. I won most of my hearings here in the UK, this guy helps guys in the States though. He won full custody representing himself.
/r/Divorce_Men06/01/26 11:47 PM
0

Most of my social circle is women. That's not what I mean. I am talking about going out and approaching females you find attractive, that you have never spoken to before. How often do you do that?
/r/MensRights06/01/26 09:28 PM
0

How often do you go out to meet women?
/r/MensRights06/01/26 06:09 PM
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Look, you are not at the worst part yet. Your comment just revealed that she is about to go to the next stage. You need to seriously prepare. Also people who have not been through the same thing cannot help you all the way.
/r/Divorce_Men05/01/26 03:22 PM
1

Surely you know this but now but the judge still has to agree even if it's a consent order. If somebody steps in and says to her, "hey, you can get more!" you are now in a next level of troubles. How did it work out in the end?
/r/Divorce_Men05/01/26 02:39 PM
1

You have probably found out but finances are not a primary consideration. If she is on benefits, and you have a 6-figure job, she is still more likely to get the kids. After all, part of your money is hers now.
/r/Divorce_Men05/01/26 02:38 PM
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I want to leave but she’s pregnant. Any advice gents? You can do it the hard way, or the harder way. The harder way is to stay with her. The hard way is, you have to prepare your legal case. I can relate to staying while she is pregnant but the problem you will have is, she will discard you at some point anyway. So, get ready to leave. Talk to 25 lawyers. Some have responded that it's an overkill - my counter-argument is, it's better your talk to all those lawyers than be one of the father compl…
/r/Divorce_Men05/01/26 02:33 PM
2

You have to do both. Or, you can carry on as you are doing. Both paths have a destination.
/r/MensRights05/01/26 12:48 PM
2

You have the wrong idea of what being elite means. You have to figure out your own set of skills that can hardly be found anywhere else. You have to network, be part of projects, and generally pave your own path.
/r/MensRights05/01/26 12:44 PM
2

its back to only the best being hired. That's exactly what I said. So become elite in your field and you won't have to worry about any of that. Else, even if you get a job, it will be mundane, you'll hate it, and that company may not survive. The gold rush is gone.
/r/MensRights05/01/26 12:41 PM
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UK is not innovating. You would have hated the job anyway.
/r/MensRights05/01/26 10:00 AM
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The thing is, the writing on the wall for CS was there at least 9 years ago. The issues are getting worse in the field, so the problem is bigger than people not getting jobs. The bigger issue is, which companies will survive so there can be any jobs. Having worked in the field for many years, most graduates are not very good at practical aspects. If this is the field you love, become an elite programmer or engineer and forget the rest.
/r/MensRights05/01/26 09:59 AM
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I think we've been heading toward divorce f In other words, you're willing to endure the humiliation until she chooses to end it. She has the power to ruin my reputation easily, and I'm sure she knows it. It's your fear that's giving her the power. She is triggering you and it's working. So what do I do? Nothing. Is it time to contact a lawyer? Yes, but you will soon realize that time was 10 years ago to divorce her. Don't argue if you don't agree - just wait and see. I'm just afraid of the dama…
/r/Divorce_Men03/01/26 02:04 PM
1

Nice.
/r/MensRights03/01/26 11:49 AM
2

Margot Robbie has a son?
/r/MensRights03/01/26 11:36 AM
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It is only my job to be there for the kids and help them get through this If you don't forgive her, your bitterness will spill onto the kids one way or the other. And how can you help them get through this, when you are stuck in resenting her yourself?
/r/Divorce_Men02/01/26 05:04 PM
2

How do I forgive her for this? The most effective way is to recognise how you put yourself in this position. Then, you forgive yourself for all that. At that point, you will find it much easier to forgive her.
/r/Divorce_Men02/01/26 05:02 PM
-1

Where did you fall short?
/r/Divorce_Men02/01/26 04:38 PM
-2

So, reading your post, how do you see yourself?
/r/Divorce_Men02/01/26 02:23 PM
3

an indication of an affair. Inaccurate. It's a potential indication of a current affair.
/r/Divorce_Men02/01/26 01:17 PM
2

Yes, that’s typical. I am holding back on commenting because I have noticed people vote down the specifics of how family courts work. The reality is, most lose worse than they should because they can’t accept what they did wrong - even if the other party is screwing you, you’re also messing up. And based on your description, you’re already eleven steps behind.
/r/Divorce_Men02/01/26 08:35 AM
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Let's do this the hard way. Read your post again. If a male friend did this, you wouldn't accept it. You accepted it from her. I don't blame her - if someone was giving me a free ride like that, I would take it. The bigger problem you have is that you moved out. Legally, most likely, you no longer live there. You are married so it doesn't matter who paid. What's your lawyer saying?
/r/Divorce_Men01/01/26 09:33 PM
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I don’t know who I am. Well done. Most males won't admit this. They take on the identity proposed to them by society. Which is why they end up in family courts. And also why they tend to lose .The system is biased but also the system knows most males are so passive it's easy to run them over. Since you have realized this, you are now on a different path. Should you choose to continue, you will experience pain like you never have before. The courts are painful for everyone. But those who want to …
/r/Divorce_Men30/12/25 11:00 PM
1

So essentially, if I understand you correctly, you didn't have much experience with women?
/r/Divorce_Men30/12/25 06:52 PM
2

I now say the same thing I thought before my STBXW talked me into getting married. Why didn't you dump her when she started forcing the situation?
/r/Divorce_Men30/12/25 06:09 PM
7

Have you spoken to a lawyer yet? Everything you had said is important. Speaking to a lawyer is imperative.
/r/Divorce_Men30/12/25 11:05 AM
2

You have to decide for yourself. Every man has a different structure. The point is to give her the opportunity to be part of what you’re creating for yourself. But not so much that she thinks she is immediately entitled to a long-term role in your life.
/r/MensRights30/12/25 10:56 AM
2

Moms at school give me weird looks What is the main reason why this matters to you? I walk into the school and give her hugs. Give who hugs? how tf am I the bad guy right now? You are not the bad guy.
/r/Divorce_Men29/12/25 10:59 PM
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Society has evolved. People who don't like men, or outright hate them, like to use this argument. In particular, they use it when the importance of men being leaders is raised. Let's consider this idea though. Evolution implies progress. But how is it progress if millions of males are screwed over as we speak? The argument that society has evolved only makes sense if you insist that males must be sacrificed for the benefit of everyone else. And this argument is what makes males relinquish their …
/r/Divorce_Men29/12/25 10:32 PM
1

Why do you think you get to lead the relationship? That's a good question. I will answer it as soon as you apologize for the insults. Else, since you have no respect for me, whatever I share will not be of value to you.
/r/Divorce_Men29/12/25 09:37 PM
2

Then fine, I guess I’m insulting him. Fine by me. Toxic behavior deserves to be called out. Really? And yet that's the kind of behaviour you are exhibiting here. I know you wish I would insult you back. But, I would rather lead by example and have a respectful discussion instead.
/r/Divorce_Men29/12/25 09:27 PM
1

that you should not buy into idea that being a man and doing specific things means you will get/deserve something in return. That's a good way to put it. My point is, don't do things for people, especially as dictated as society, thinking you're scoring points and that you'll be rewarded. Clearly, as the original post states, and others in family courts have experienced, you won't be rewarded. What I am adding to the discussion is, let's not blame anyone but ourselves because we don't want to le…
/r/Divorce_Men29/12/25 09:25 PM
1

This whole “a man leads” and “relinquished your leadership” toxicity is exactly why so many men turn this forum into an echo chamber. At the time I am making this comment, my post is being downvoted - that's not an echo chamber for my argument. The sooner you realize that being a man isn’t special, Being a man is indeed special. It truly is. it doesn’t make you a leader, Again, I don't how you read. I didn't say being a man makes you a leader. I said a man leads. It’s why so many men feel less t…
/r/Divorce_Men29/12/25 09:17 PM
0

I appreciate you acknowledging the situation.
/r/Divorce_Men29/12/25 09:08 PM
0

If you are so sure of yourself, why do you have to lie? And why do you have to come at me with all the ad hominem attacks? A man leads. That's my position. You don't need to insult me - you can provide arguments to the contrary, if you disagree. Women aren’t the enemy. Courts aren’t the enemy. So many men here don’t understand that they are their own worst enemy. That's exactly my point. So where is all the vitriol coming from? Stop making this about man versus woman Again, where did I make it m…
/r/Divorce_Men29/12/25 08:14 PM
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thinking my "Duty" gave me leverage. I thought if I was just fair and nice, Reflect deeper on this. You are not talking about duty. You are talking about earning a position in your relationship. In effect, you relinquished your leadership as a man. You bought into the society's idea of equality, partnership, and other nonsense. she would remember all the work I put in. Thus, you thought you would be rewarded. Now, most males will reject this message and stick to the idea that they were betrayed.…
/r/Divorce_Men29/12/25 07:47 PM
0

Don't jump into relationships. First, see if you like the sex. After a few months, if you like the sex, see if you like going out with her. If she still hasn't messed up or left, start giving her little tasks. If she does well, make her your girlfriend. Then give her a chance to be your wife if you want one. (Or do what everyone else does and then come back here and complain about women.)
/r/MensRights29/12/25 05:14 PM
6

She just wanted to do something herself. But also she probably wasn’t into you anymore and just used that as an excuse. It happens.
/r/Divorce_Men28/12/25 04:56 PM
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That’s part of the game. You might lose everyone you know. You will keep it moving.
/r/Divorce_Men28/12/25 02:25 PM
1

The whole idea of advocacy is part of the problem. Any problem that can be solved by advocacy, can be solved without advocacy, in this context. But it’s counterintuitive to change our viewpoint to saying, let’s resolve the issues without asking for permission or for anyone else to change. In essence, lions have been convinced they are zebras.
/r/MensRights28/12/25 02:20 PM
1

It’s a lot of work. But the constant complaining must stop. The victim mindset won’t change anything for the better because there will never be justice for victims. Now, I am not denying there are problems and biases against men -I face them too. There are many things we can change about how we do things. The problem is, most males won’t accept they are part of the problem. That’s the single point of failure that stops us from getting stronger.
/r/MensRights28/12/25 12:46 PM
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There is not enough discussion about how males can strengthen themselves.
/r/MensRights28/12/25 11:52 AM
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Women go through crazy hormone changes during and after pregnancy. That's the most naive thing I have read today. Let's see if something else beats it.
/r/Divorce_Men27/12/25 12:03 PM
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how do I prepare mentally, emotionally, and financially? That depends on how much you love yourself. If you really care about yourself, you will dedicate time everyday to understand the family law in your area. You will also spend dozens of hours talking to lawyers. Also, do a lot of introspection so that you can understand how you got yourself into this situation.
/r/Divorce_Men27/12/25 12:02 PM
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You need to let go. Unless you want to end up hating yourself and living in misery.
/r/Divorce_Men27/12/25 06:18 AM
1

I asked some questions. Why are you getting triggered instead of answering?
/r/MensRights26/12/25 08:19 AM
0

It’s dumb until you get some unintentionally pregnant. And then you realize, condoms are actually quite useful.
/r/MensRights26/12/25 08:03 AM
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I thought we are men who want to solve problems. We can only solve problems by answering critical questions that lead to the root issues. Or are we here just to rant and pretend someone else is the cause of all our problems?
/r/MensRights26/12/25 08:02 AM
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You don’t have to see those things if you start searching for something else. At the same time, males also enable this by putting females on a pedestal.
/r/MensRights25/12/25 04:53 PM
-1

Let it go.
/r/Divorce_Men25/12/25 01:12 PM
1

What pieces do you have to pick? What’s going to change?
/r/Divorce_Men25/12/25 12:57 PM
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If you have sex, you have to take responsibility for the child. Even when you use condoms. The law is not fair - but that does not take was from your responsibility. Learn how to select your women.
/r/MensRights25/12/25 11:56 AM
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The downvotes are quite suspect. OP is clearly the problem but any question to that effect is downvoted. Even if he is not, it’s worth exploring since a mature man is open to introspection. I am beginning to think this sub is not genuine and there some code messages in the posts.
/r/MensRights25/12/25 11:52 AM
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How did you decide that those are things women look for in a man?
/r/MensRights25/12/25 06:33 AM
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And are those the things she desired from you?
/r/MensRights25/12/25 06:25 AM
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I was a great partner What were some of the things that made you great?
/r/MensRights25/12/25 06:11 AM
-10

Why don’t you use condoms?
/r/MensRights25/12/25 05:59 AM
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She told me today. Christmas Eve OK. So what's the problem?
/r/Divorce_Men25/12/25 04:22 AM
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The easier path? The easier path is, spend at least 30 hours with lawyers and preparing before you make a move. You are about to get sucker punched if you think like this.
/r/Divorce_Men24/12/25 05:16 PM
2

Let it go. It doesn’t even make sense that you have conversations with her. Logistics regarding kids - that’s all you need to discuss with her.
/r/Divorce_Men22/12/25 08:56 PM
7

Why are you concerned about your ex?
/r/Divorce_Men22/12/25 05:19 PM
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Where the fuck did I fail? It's probably way before you met her. But without knowing details, it's impossible to give you a precise answer. In any event, it's only a matter of time till your realize that you were missing out on the best things in life because she was in the way. Here's to you!
/r/Divorce_Men21/12/25 05:47 AM
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I took 3 months off work. Did therapy twice a week That's not the same. Let's go deeper. [Pause] I understand that socially all these things seem like you're doing the work. I'd argue that it's escapism. Your original post is evidence of that. You need to schedule time by yourself with nobody else influencing you. No phones, no computers, no music. Nothing. Just you and your God. That's how a man wins.
/r/Divorce_Men20/12/25 09:52 PM
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You can get over it and move on and that doesn't mean that you need to forgive your ex for anything. That's not true. You have to forgive her else you're stuck in an emotional rut. There's nothing you can do about the past. It's done. All have us have done things we're not proud of. We still have to forgive ourselves. Forgiveness is the key to your freedom. when you have freedom, you have clarity. And then you will figure out what to do.
/r/Divorce_Men20/12/25 09:28 PM
1

I’ve ever been. Grown my business by 40% You are not your business. That's exactly what I mean. Your mind is on external things. How much time do you dedicate to properly grieve your situation?
/r/Divorce_Men20/12/25 09:26 PM
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You have to focus on yourself. Your misery won't help the children in anyway. If it's hard on you, can you imagine how much harder it is on the kids? You have to learn how to grieve and keep it moving. That's the whole point of being a man. You are the rock everyone else leans on. So you can't afford to feel sorry for yourself for too long.
/r/Divorce_Men20/12/25 08:09 PM
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I disagree.First of all, that first message is the end of the relationship, whatever it was. There is no reason to write an essay. I love being a man. Yes, there are things that should be different. But they are not. What I can change, I will. The rest, I don’t focus on. I focus on myself and the things I care about.
/r/MensRights19/12/25 11:26 AM
0

I recently chatted up a girl, in the outside section of a bar. She started to film the interaction with her phone without me noticing. But I saw that she was sitting in a weird position. So I said to her, "Are you filming this? That's rude. Don't film me." She put her phone away. I walked off and spoke to some other girls. One was holding a drink. I told her I wanted it. She passed it to me. I told her to come closer. We started kissing. And that was it. So how do you date? You get some, you don…
/r/MensRights18/12/25 07:14 AM
1

But suffering for three months is typical of a passive person. Why didn't you dump her on the spot when you realized things were not right?
/r/Divorce_Men18/12/25 07:02 AM
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Look, I get it. But you need to place the blame where it's due - that's on yourself. Not that your wife or the other guy are not wrong. They are wrong. But you can only control your own actions. You need to be brutally honest about how you got into that situation. And, don't give yourself credit for doing the right things, as defined by society. You have to know how to put yourself first. At the end of the day, you betrayed yourself. You seem to think that you ruined your marriage. Did you reall…
/r/Divorce_Men18/12/25 07:00 AM
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There is nothing wrong with you being angry. The point is, this is just the emergent situation that was brewing a long time ago. You come across as someone who is very passive with females.
/r/Divorce_Men18/12/25 06:54 AM
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The harsh truth is, you are unable to directly address your emotions when it comes to her. You are not assertive with females. You keep that anger and take it out on the male because that socially acceptable. Which would make you come across as insecure to her. So inevitably, she would cheat.
/r/Divorce_Men18/12/25 06:10 AM
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If you act out this way then they didn't want to be around you. But he didn't swear an oath to be faithful to you did he?
/r/Divorce_Men18/12/25 06:08 AM
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Why are you angrier with him than with her?
/r/Divorce_Men18/12/25 05:27 AM
0

That's facts. Go and watch a video on how it's done. If you dare.
/r/MensRights18/12/25 03:07 AM
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You are right. I am so surprised that in a men's sub responsible behaviour is getting downvoted. It makes it clearer why we are in this situation.
/r/MensRights18/12/25 03:04 AM
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He is an adult male. He knows that skitting in a vagina can result in a pregnancy. As a man, you don't follow the female's lead and act irresponsibly. If a strange man comes to you and say,"hey, let me carry your wallet so that nobody can take it from you" would you give him the wallet? If you did, and the man run off, would say, "Oh no, I didn't know he would run off?!"
/r/MensRights17/12/25 09:20 PM
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There were. We are dealing with reality here.
/r/Divorce_Men17/12/25 04:58 PM
1

What do you miss about her?
/r/Divorce_Men17/12/25 04:57 PM
1

It doesn't matter that you disagree. YWhat's pretty good for you is substandard to another man. The reality is that you have to put in the work. While I understand that mediocrity is the default for many, that's not my starting point. You didn't do your best and got a good enough result. That's nice. But nice is not a strategy.
/r/Divorce_Men16/12/25 07:04 PM
1

I didn’t miss that part. That’s the most childish way of thinking you can imagine.
/r/MensRights16/12/25 11:29 AM
1

Exactly. That’s a very low standard. And so you end up with a low level situation. What guys are not getting is that this lack of responsibility is the root cause of all their troubles. The system takes advantage of their unwillingness to take charge.
/r/MensRights16/12/25 11:27 AM
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I do not see the connection. I am also not saying the female is without fault. However, the female is not responsible for you or your actions. You are responsible for yourself. And, you are responsible for your actions. If you have unprotected sex, you will get a female pregnant.
/r/MensRights16/12/25 11:25 AM
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Your feeling won't change the outcome of anybody's case. Most of the males complaining think like you. And the system counts on the male not putting in the work.
/r/Divorce_Men16/12/25 12:59 AM
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Both adults decide that they are going to produce a child. If they then refuse to act responsibly, that's their wrongdoing. Even if society approves it, they are still wrong for not taking responsibility, if that's what they choose to do.
/r/MensRights16/12/25 12:58 AM
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Wait, so she got his sperm how? Through telekinesis? And while I'm against abortion, I understand it happens after the woman is pregnant. He chose her as the mother by getting her pregnant.
/r/MensRights16/12/25 12:49 AM
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That's you maybe. If you follow society, you will get what society gives. But that's the problem males don't want to lead. They don't even want to lead themselves. Thus, the system has it even easier to take advantage of them.
/r/MensRights15/12/25 11:54 PM
1

The man leads. The woman follows. The man chose to skit in her. She is now pregnant. The man takes responsibility.
/r/MensRights15/12/25 11:53 PM
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I don't want my daughter to turn out like her mother. So why did you choose this woman to be the mother of your kid? What criteria did you use to make that decision?
/r/MensRights15/12/25 11:06 PM
1

Your attitude here is the cause of all your troubles. You can choose to mock me. Your life will remain the same though - think about that. This is your chance to turn things around, and you want to join the pity party. That's your choice.
/r/MensRights15/12/25 09:18 PM
2

lotta invalidating and victim-blaming When we stats using these feminine terms we know we have a real problem. Are we not men? Do we not express our thoughts directly? I am telling you how it is and what you must do to change your situation. It is the only way. Let me ask you this. If someone shoots you in the leg - are you going to chase after that person, and complain, or will you take care of the wound?
/r/MensRights15/12/25 09:16 PM
1

I don't support abortion. Or more clearly, I am against abortion. Now, if you want to follow society's rhetoric, you can't have a btter life. I don't know how many times males want to bang their heads against the wall until they change direction.
/r/MensRights15/12/25 09:00 PM
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I like women too much to avoid them altogether. But the condom has always done the trick for me. Based on the downvotes, it appears males just want to moan rather than find solutions.
/r/MensRights15/12/25 08:59 PM
1

That's what men do. I lead my relationships. If you choose not to, and follow society instead, you will forever be stuck in these situations.
/r/MensRights15/12/25 08:58 PM
1

Thre is no reason to be sarcastic here - these are serious issues. Now, I spend a lot of time helping fathers. And no, I wouldn't want to go through it again. That, however, does not change anything. You know you should not skit in her. And yet you do. You have to start by taking responsibility. Is it fair? No. But it's happening.
/r/MensRights15/12/25 08:56 PM
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Frankly, this is fraud on her part. She can't get pregnant if you don't skit in her. Period. Look, while I wanted to be a father, I still ended up in family courts. I have fought all kinds of false allegations. And, I had my business shutdown when everything took a wrong turn. So I am not claiming that these things don't happen. But it's a childish and unmanly mentality to blame it on the female. The reason why I won in the end is because I took full responsibility. And I accepted where I went w…
/r/MensRights15/12/25 07:55 PM
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Can he not sign his parental rights away? In most places this would not necessarily do away with the financial responsibility. But that's why it's important to use condoms.
/r/MensRights15/12/25 07:30 PM
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Look at all the irresponsible males downvoting. But we can't fight for our rights without also accepting responsibility. If a female is pregnant, that's the male who chose it - not her, even though that's the illusion.
/r/MensRights15/12/25 07:28 PM
0

You need to be smart about how you move before you meet the woman. And men are not powerless legally - albeit they have a very difficult situation. I have been through family courts and helped others through it. It's a tough task and most don't have what it takes. But, the problem here is that males don't exercise their power as men. What power you say? First of all, you have the power not to get her pregnant. You have the power to not commit to her until she has earned it. You have the power to…
/r/MensRights15/12/25 07:26 PM
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For the most part, you are correct. But, that's why men lead relationship. Or, they are supposed. As a leader, you don't follow the whims of your followers. She says, "oh, take of the condom." You walk. She says, "I want us to have some sort of commitment or I can't sleep with you." You walk. And so forth. But if you follow a female's lead, you will eventually end up in a land where things are much beyond your control. Now, I've also been there. So sometimes it's a lesson you learn the hard way.…
/r/MensRights15/12/25 06:46 PM
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How was your mum good and your dad wasn’t?
/r/MensRights15/12/25 05:54 PM
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Men are not powerless. Men can use protection. Yeah, we all know the system is not fair. That’s why we have to be smart about how we move. The kid is here now so the father and mother must take care of him.
/r/MensRights15/12/25 05:53 PM
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So she gets pregnant Incorrect. Your bro impregnated her. He chose not use protection and then came inside her, probably multiple times. When you choose to do this, you have you have to be ready for the responsibility that comes with it.
/r/MensRights15/12/25 05:51 PM
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I’m with you. She is still innocent as far as the law is concerned. Sure the public likes to judge but it’s not that deep. She’ll have her day in court.
/r/MensRights13/12/25 01:58 AM
0

Except she has not been found guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
/r/MensRights13/12/25 01:57 AM
1

Many of us don’t learn, unfortunately. I’ve seen fathers start new relationships while in existing proceedings, and still repeating the same pattern.
/r/Divorce_Men12/12/25 05:04 PM
1

Also, it’s a wrong dynamic. It ignores the fact that every team needs a leader. In a heterosexual relationship, the man is the leader.
/r/Divorce_Men12/12/25 09:48 AM
1

Why did you stay 35 years?
/r/Divorce_Men12/12/25 09:45 AM
1

The fact that you agreed to therapy is a losing move. It’s delay tactics. And it shows her that you’re willing to let go of all the disrespect you have received. So respects you less for listening to her or not knowing that you can and should find a better woman.
/r/Divorce_Men12/12/25 09:44 AM
3

Wives decide it’s over before you get married.
/r/Divorce_Men12/12/25 09:42 AM
2

No, but I help fathers win in family courts. I got rid of my lawyer, studied the law on my own, and then represented myself all the way to the appeal courts - and won. I have quite a bit of experience. The advantage I have is that I a not bound by the same regulations as lawyers so I can find information that might be considered unethical. Where I live a lay person can assist a litigant in court. In addition, I have a network of professionals who are part of the system.
/r/Divorce_Men11/12/25 03:33 AM
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No, 10 is being conscious that people won't put in the work. You should talk to at least 25 different lawyers in your state. And dedicate at least 10 hours a week to studying. Now, this is if you are a male and have something to lose. Most fathers lose in family court because they don't understand that the power of the state is being brought against them.
/r/Divorce_Men10/12/25 07:30 PM
8

Do a DNA test. Setup meetings with 10 different lawyers to get a grasp of your situation. When it’s time, leave.
/r/Divorce_Men10/12/25 03:45 PM
1

What is the Tate mindset?
/r/MensRights16/11/25 07:30 AM
3

It's going to be the same for you as it has been. Same as your relationship. Bad. If you can't get women before 30 you still have to learn after. Also, asking this question shows you are inexperienced with women. To be clear, the issue is about how it's going to be for you, not for all guys after 30.
/r/seduction16/12/24 08:32 PM
2

Why are you worrying about that? There's no such thing as too direct. It's just social convention. Now, you walk up. You tell her what you like about her. You will tell from her response more or less how to proceed. If she seems into it, you tell her the next step. But be direct. You can say something like, "I want us to go for a drink this weekend." That's direct but it's not as explicit as an experienced man would say it. She can say yes, or no. She says yes, you exchange contact and make the …
/r/seduction09/06/24 07:54 PM
1

No, that’s OP’s perception of the problem.
/r/seduction08/06/24 09:12 AM
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Look, you don’t need to talk too much. A long conversation won’t make a woman want you. I won’t be around for a while so use this as your guide. If you start applying it and have questions, DM me. If she likes you, she’ll go along with what you want because she wants the same thing. The problem is, you’ll have to face a lot of rejection. That’s what guys can’t handle and that’s why they have all this nonsense theory. The simples way is, walk up, introduce yourself, you can start a light conversa…
/r/seduction08/06/24 01:40 AM
2

THAT GUY that goes to dance lessons to hit on girls there Why not?
/r/seduction08/06/24 12:34 AM
1

Wow ok what are the ones you recommend play boy? Don't call me that. What I recommend is that you go out and approach a 100 women. Start a conversation. Let them know what you like about them. Tell them what you want to do with them. If they're down, exchange contacts. If not, wish them a good day/night. Walk away. It that doesn't get you what you want, get in touch. I'll give you info that only a small percentage of guys access. As in, behind, behind the scenes of all these programs.
/r/seduction07/06/24 11:35 PM
1

She already chose when she saw you for the first time. Of course she did. And she hopes I choose to approach her out of all the other women who are thinking the same thing.
/r/seduction07/06/24 11:26 PM
1

Some people aren’t naturals and some are. Incorrect. Everyone is natural. Some are just not willing to face reality. So they learn theory that feeds into their existing fears, fantasies, and delusions.
/r/seduction07/06/24 10:37 PM
1

At least when you know the theory of it, you have a better understanding of what you did right and wrong. This is not true. It's great for guys who are OK with just having women in their lives or if you only care about how the girl looks. But if you want to be a man women crave, these books will push you away from that.
/r/seduction07/06/24 10:36 PM
-1

The Game and Mystery Method are great foundation books. Yeah, these are great if you like being submissive to women, which is most guys. (Although they claim otherwise.)
/r/seduction07/06/24 10:34 PM
2

Go out by yourself. Check out a few places. See what you like. Note down the address. Now you have places to go.
/r/seduction07/06/24 10:08 PM
10

since he’s never even remotely hit on me. Assuming you're in decent physical shape and dress sexy, he's probably scared. Also, you may lose interest once you talk to him if he doesn't know how to handle you. Have you discussed this with your husband?
/r/seduction07/06/24 09:45 PM
19

How should I now approach this? Text her the date and place you want to go for a drink. If she's not available to on that date, let her give you the dates she's available. If she doesn't want to go to the place you want to go, forget about her.
/r/seduction07/06/24 09:35 PM
-3

Bro, you are assuming more things about her than me, and you are not the one who had a date with her lol. Let it go.
/r/seduction07/06/24 09:13 PM
1

So, you reckon just ask her out, in front of a queue of people? No, don't do that. Even if she wants to say yes, she can't. But it's best you let her go anyway at this stage.
/r/seduction07/06/24 08:46 PM
-3

she might not be that interested She is not that interested. She is low on options, so that's where you come in. Now, I know she has guys hitting on her. But you are one of the guys who sticks around while she is dealing with the other guys. Most likely the guy(s) she is sleeping with is giving her hopes for something more. So in between the time they ignore her, she talks to you. she stopped me when I tried to get physical, That's a sign you should stop dealing with her. You are going to get ad…
/r/seduction07/06/24 08:32 PM
5

Hey, you are a grown up man. Do what you do.
/r/seduction07/06/24 05:59 PM
2

You don't give up your principles. That's what integrity is. the girl can stay the way she is without any concession That's only true if you aren't willing to walk away from her.
/r/seduction07/06/24 05:40 PM
1

Or is that only a dream? It's a dream if you don't grow up. You have to meet a lot of women. You have to hear a lot of women telling you they're not interested. You will be disappointed by many too. And, as you keep going, you'll meet one who is right for you. But she won't fall on your lap.
/r/seduction07/06/24 05:29 PM
1

It depends on how they see you and how they feel about you. In your case, based on what you’ve written, they’ll mostly enjoy it when you take them to expensive places, dinners, maybe if you take them shopping and pay for it. They may also enjoy texts and non-committal phone conversations with you.
/r/seduction07/06/24 04:50 PM
18

You just have to be upfront. Based on what you’ve said, she is going to reject you. But rejection is part of the game. Next time don’t wait so long.
/r/seduction07/06/24 04:47 PM
2

You don’t need to put yourself down. Still, you’re welcome.
/r/seduction07/06/24 04:38 PM
14

Women don’t care about looks as much as the Internet claims. It’s one of the biggest excuses for not approaching women.
/r/seduction07/06/24 03:00 PM
1

Is there anything else you have found draws interest? Yes. Sex.
/r/seduction07/06/24 02:13 PM
-1

It does matter. Your looks are secondary to women. What matters more is how you behave and how she feels in your presence.
/r/seduction07/06/24 01:50 PM
2

No. It makes you less attractive. And it shows you're insecure. Levels the playing field. More like it kicks you off the playing field.
/r/seduction07/06/24 01:47 PM
5

That's the point, there is nothing to get from your generic comment. Let me help you. My comment teaches you three things. Tell women what you want from them. Don't interact with women who are not attracted to you. Don't listen to the nonsense women tell you. Do you get it now?
/r/seduction07/06/24 01:44 PM
3

Why do you want to deflate people's egos?
/r/seduction07/06/24 01:42 PM
61

Forget about her. Meet other women.
/r/seduction07/06/24 01:42 PM
0

If a Girl Smiles at you and you Don't Even Smile Back/Look Her in the Eyes, Does She Get Offended? Why does it matter?
/r/seduction07/06/24 01:40 PM
1

You will have to approach a lot of women. In the hundreds at least to find the specific one you’re looking for. Many will reject or ghost you no matter what you do.
/r/seduction07/06/24 12:43 PM
1

Ok, so you will have to date a lot of women before you find that person. Are you willing to do that?
/r/seduction07/06/24 09:37 AM
1

I don’t know what subtle yet direct means. Please explain.
/r/seduction07/06/24 09:36 AM
1

Did you get it?
/r/seduction07/06/24 09:36 AM
1

Tell me an example of your approach.
/r/seduction07/06/24 09:35 AM
1

I'm pretty sure they get all the attention they need. No, they don't. It's never enough.
/r/seduction06/06/24 11:24 PM
1

Do all people who buy running shoes go running? Girls like attention. Period. If they can get attention from you, they will take it. If you stop giving them attention, they sometimes try to get that attention back. That's it.
/r/seduction06/06/24 11:07 PM
1

It would make sense if I was the one chasing them with texts. So what do you think is happening?
/r/seduction06/06/24 10:47 PM
1

"I am not looking for anything" ? - How do you guys proceed? I walk away.
/r/seduction06/06/24 10:41 PM
3

It’s seems dumb to try confirm something 7days out I don't know where you from. But most adults on Earth tend to plan ahead. Seven days is more than reasonable to plan a date.
/r/seduction06/06/24 10:35 PM
3

They didn't play you. They played along with your clueless behaviour. Women text with guys all the time for attention. The true players, don't have time for texts. That's for boyfriends and people who act like you do. So in between the time they have sex with true players for real, they go on dates, get into relationships, and text with guys. Simply put, you're in the text when I'm bored category.
/r/seduction06/06/24 10:24 PM
1

we hit it off quickly No. They did what they do with average guys. They entertained you, played along, but had no interest whatsoever. You have to start approaching women.
/r/seduction06/06/24 10:13 PM
5

I suspect OP's needs are beyond this sub's juristiction.
/r/seduction06/06/24 10:10 PM
1

Right now you are following conventions - from the society and from the pickup/seduction world. Neither of these will get you what you want. The reality it simple. You approached 200 girls for their numbers. This shows me you're indirect. A phone number as a goal is a weak goal. You have to learn how to be direct and how to let them know what you want. At least, you're not phased by rejection. You are already ahead of most guys on the planet. The vast majority haven't approached even 10 women in…
/r/seduction06/06/24 09:53 PM
1

Neither approach is right.
/r/seduction06/06/24 09:22 PM
-2

Great way to not get laid That's your mind. Also, we have different standards.
/r/seduction06/06/24 08:43 PM
2

I’m an absolute loser when it comes to talking to girls and relationships. As long as you see yourself that way, you won't make progress.
/r/seduction06/06/24 08:41 PM
0

You'll have to overcome that fear. Or just lead her to a spot where it feel private. Then kiss her.
/r/seduction06/06/24 08:40 PM
-4

No kiss on the first date means dont go on a second date? I will end the dmeeting the moment I realize she is not interested in kissing me.
/r/seduction06/06/24 08:40 PM
1

none of them care about my career, hobbies, fitness, style, or anything I was told women look for. You are correct. It's good that you have come to this realization. We'll look deeper into what you need. But first, what do you want from these women?
/r/seduction06/06/24 08:39 PM
1

Strong suit, how? I’m struggling to see how this connects to attracting women?
/r/seduction06/06/24 07:47 PM
34

It’s because you don’t go out to approach women. You don’t tell women what you want from them. You keep interacting with women who are not attracted to you. And you listen to their nonsense. Change those things and you will have what you want.
/r/seduction06/06/24 07:45 PM
2

Why is this woman even important? And where is the part where she wants to sleep with you. I can’t find it in your post.
/r/seduction06/06/24 07:43 PM
1

Why can’t they find out? Just set your schedule according to what you need to do. Surely, the girls don’t take more than a couple of hours, each week.
/r/seduction06/06/24 07:30 PM
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In general, it’s best to be in a private space. But why are you going on a second date with a girl you haven’t kissed. Or more importantly, why haven’t you kissed her?
/r/seduction06/06/24 07:29 PM
1

Ask her boyfriend.
/r/seduction06/06/24 07:28 PM
2

It’s about growing up. Most guys don’t mature, which is why they never experience certain sides of women.
/r/seduction06/06/24 07:23 PM
6

When a woman shows disinterest, you leave her alone. Then you don’t have to deal with any situation that arises from that. If you choose to pursue you her, who should take responsibility for the outcome?
/r/seduction06/06/24 07:20 PM
1

Why do you need to make up those stories?
/r/seduction06/06/24 06:28 PM
1

All you have to do is ask.
/r/seduction06/06/24 06:28 PM
-4

And it’s precisely because you believe this that gurus make so much money. In simple terms, it’s not true. That’s not how it works.
/r/seduction06/06/24 03:34 PM
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The theory appeals to people because they don’t know better. Of course, if you believe you have to build rapport through effort, it’s easy to sell you a lot of other stuff. Next thing you’ll tell me, rapport helps you make the girl want you. Is that what you think?
/r/seduction06/06/24 02:29 PM
5

Making a girl smile means nothing. A conversation means nothing. The point of a number is to arrange logistics after you have both agreed to do something. Therefore, you should only take the number after she knows what you two will do next. You have to let her know that before exchange contact information.
/r/seduction06/06/24 10:28 AM
3

I don’t know about unspoken expectations. Focus on what you want.
/r/seduction06/06/24 09:40 AM
-2

You are talking too much. Read my comment again. Also, you can’t build rapport any more than you make the sun rise. Rapport naturally happens if both people are interested in communicating with each other. You have to unlearn all the nonsense pick-up theory you’ve been following.
/r/seduction06/06/24 09:39 AM
1

Why do you think you need to bullshit anyone? That’s the opposite of what I’m saying.
/r/seduction06/06/24 09:35 AM
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What are you talking to them about? Keep it light, don’t talk for too long about unnecessary things. Within 2 - 3 minutes max she should know what you want from her. Contrary to popular opinion, you’re not going to talk her into desiring you. Within less than five minutes you can walk away with either a plan to do something or knowing she’s not interested.
/r/seduction06/06/24 01:50 AM
1

It’s your experience because they can tell you’re sensitive and it turns them off.
/r/seduction06/06/24 12:36 AM
1

OK, now I see what OP is talking about. You can’t be so sensitive. She could have been lost in thought, or had a dry throat, or just be in a mood, or a million other things. These are unrealistic expectations.
/r/seduction05/06/24 11:49 PM
1

What are saying? If she says “Hello” back you quit? You approach her and expect her to then make the moves or what?
/r/seduction05/06/24 11:22 PM
1

In general, if she says no or maybe, walk away. Leave those girls to the average guys. Only go for girls who turn you on and who are interested in doing what you want to do with them. That rules out most women you’ll meet in your life. Once you accept that, you’ll have more women than you’re willing to deal with.
/r/seduction05/06/24 11:20 PM
3

Literally every single male I've known in my entire life has met women, had awesome girlfriends, got married, etc and 95% of them have basically hardly ever done cold approach. And that's why they'll never get the highest quality of relationship with women. But that's another discussion altogether. There are so many things most guys are oblivious to.
/r/seduction05/06/24 10:07 PM
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That's weak game. You have to be at a certain level for women to reveal themselves to you. And to discern through desire from women running game. For example, a true player for real does not value any of the situations that seem so important to the average guy who travels. And yes, I've travelled and lived on different continents, as well as helped with guys dating, all over the world. It's all the same - but again, for the average guy, there appears to be a difference.
/r/seduction05/06/24 06:11 PM
0

Particularly those raised in more restrictive, religious, or prudish cultures. You have to be at a certain level to understand that this means nothing. Yes, there is the public image and adherence to norms, as long as there is the appearance of being observed or supervised. But, that's just the image women project. If you're peacocking everywhere That sounds weird. I don't know what you're talking about. What has this got to do with women? I mean a culturally different city. Culture is not the s…
/r/seduction05/06/24 06:01 PM
1

That makes foreigners sexy, by definition. No, it doesn't. There is some curiosity. But first of all, most guys make moves that are timid and with no sexual energy. So yeah, the women will entertain you out of curiosity.
/r/seduction05/06/24 05:49 PM
0

a number of friends have told me that women were much more receptive to them outside of North America. There is a curiosity factor as well as the expectation that you'll spend more money than the local guys. This doesn't mean the women are more attracted to you. Women know how to spot naive guys, especially the pickup artist types who think they have figured it out.
/r/seduction05/06/24 05:45 PM
1

Moving to another city definitely helped me. I will concede that for guys who don't understand games this might appear to be true. But once you get it, you'll see that it's the same everywhere.
/r/seduction05/06/24 05:43 PM
-1

The absolute hardest time was Miami. It's your mindset.
/r/seduction05/06/24 05:42 PM
1

You will find one in the mirror if you ditch all the weird rules and theory.
/r/seduction05/06/24 04:28 AM
0

Yeah, but they are not interested in responding to you so technically they are ghosting you.
/r/seduction05/06/24 04:27 AM
2

Approach more women is a good start. How do you imagine having multiple looks like?
/r/seduction05/06/24 04:22 AM
2

Wait, how do you ghost someone who is ignoring you?
/r/seduction05/06/24 04:22 AM
11

With this kind of thinking, you won’t get anywhere. First of all, why are you texting without approaching? This move has already disqualified you.
/r/seduction05/06/24 04:21 AM
2

Why do you want it to be entertaining?
/r/seduction05/06/24 04:20 AM
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I haven’t been to Miami. But you’ll have the same problem anywhere you go. If you don’t know how to attract women consistent, moving to another place won’t help. Source: every city I’ve been to has guys complaining about how hard it is in that city so they wanna move.
/r/seduction05/06/24 04:20 AM
1

Getting looks, money and status. To what end?
/r/seduction04/06/24 11:14 PM
1

shopping with women Why? trying to figure out them As a man, your job isn't to figure out a woman, but to figure yourself out.
/r/seduction04/06/24 10:30 PM
1

And you have to be around a lot of women who want you.
/r/seduction04/06/24 05:49 PM
0

Women don’t look at fit men like how men see hot Instagram models. That’s another fantasy of males who are too scared to approach women.
/r/seduction04/06/24 02:04 PM
1

You lack confidence. If you were confident, you’d brush it off. You’d then keep approaching women in the same place or other places. Admit it, and you’ll be one step closer to attracting the women you want.
/r/seduction04/06/24 12:44 AM
1

What?
/r/seduction04/06/24 12:43 AM
1

Good points but given the political climate in universities, I suggest you abandon all rescue missions.
/r/seduction04/06/24 12:42 AM
1

She just wasn’t interested. Whenever a girl is not going along with your moves, she’s not interested. That’s all there is to it.
/r/seduction04/06/24 12:08 AM
2

How are you too good for them if your self-esteem is low? Don’t you know that the most important thing women look for is confidence? Explain.
/r/seduction04/06/24 12:06 AM
1

She’s not interested. Also, where is your self-respect?
/r/seduction04/06/24 12:05 AM
7

It’s probably the guy she is sleeping with taking up her time and attention. Wait till he is busy with his other girls. She’ll likely get back in touch with you then.
/r/seduction04/06/24 12:03 AM
1

About two-three minutes. I won’t exchange intact details unless she’s down to do what I want to do.
/r/seduction04/06/24 12:00 AM
1

I’m confused, what have the other men got to do with you and your date?
/r/seduction03/06/24 11:59 PM
4

Dump her before she messes you up then dumps you.
/r/seduction03/06/24 11:59 PM
4

You can be more respectful towards autistic people.
/r/seduction03/06/24 10:24 AM
1

Not true. She wasn’t interested. She said she wanted to get to know each other as friends.
/r/seduction03/06/24 10:23 AM
-1

No, she wasn’t interested.
/r/seduction03/06/24 10:22 AM
0

No, it doesn’t. You only think that because you lack experience.
/r/seduction03/06/24 09:48 AM
1

So how do you know what it’s like?
/r/seduction03/06/24 09:47 AM
2

Is that a question? You can’t derive confidence from sleeping with a woman.
/r/seduction03/06/24 09:47 AM
1

Then walk away.
/r/seduction02/06/24 01:02 AM
1

Move on to women who respect you. This is the correct answer.
/r/seduction02/06/24 12:59 AM
1

Just curious how people deal with stuff like this In similiar situations to yours, I usually say, "Thank you."
/r/seduction02/06/24 12:58 AM
1

then out the blue this chick raised her phone up with her number written down for my friend to call her instantly. It literally means nothing - even if he slept with her. In any case, you still have to approach. So focus on going for what you want, not what your friend is doing.
/r/seduction02/06/24 12:47 AM
2

No.Thats creepy and over sexualizing. I take it you've never done it.
/r/seduction02/06/24 12:29 AM
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"Hey, what's good. My name is _________. Tell me your name." "I'm Sophie." "Sophie, that look in your eyes is giving me ideas for what I want to do with you." That's one way to do it.
/r/seduction01/06/24 09:12 PM
5

In reality, you need to speak to a good therapist.
/r/seduction01/06/24 08:00 PM
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Comment. Just don’t expect anything to come of it.
/r/seduction01/06/24 06:32 PM
18

Nope. It’s about. You choose who you want to approach. You decide what you want to do. If she’s not down with what you want, you move on to the next.
/r/seduction01/06/24 06:32 PM
1

And make sure nobody is hearing your conversation or she’ll shut down!
/r/seduction01/06/24 06:30 PM
10

In most cases, if a girl tells you she’s leaving the next day it’s a sign she might go home with you that night. In any case, your issue is your mindset. You think of approaching in terms of stages. That’s not how it works. You talk for a couple of minutes, see how she’s responding. Tell her what turns her on about her. Her reaction will tell you most of what you need to know. Then tell her you want to take her home. That’s it. She may say yes or no. Depending on what happens, you either take he…
/r/seduction01/06/24 06:28 PM
11

Come on man. Respect yourself. Let it go.
/r/seduction01/06/24 06:22 PM
-1

The weird words are actually from the seduction/PUA community. And so what? How does that make things better. Thanks for effectively contributing nothing to my post. 🚮 Oh, you're welcome. More for the rest of us.
/r/seduction01/06/24 05:47 PM
2

A woman here: What has that got to do with anything? i’d never go out with a guy without at least testing the waters first That's irrelevant. It's not about what you want. From a guy's perspective, it's about finding a woman who is serious about meeting him. If what you want fits in his plans, then he is free to go out with you. If not, it's best that he lets you go.
/r/seduction01/06/24 05:46 PM
5

She is not interested. Forget about her. Focus on meeting other women.
/r/seduction01/06/24 12:20 PM
-3

You’re overthinking this. Stop using the weird words to describe meeting women. Focus, go out, and get what you want.
/r/seduction01/06/24 12:19 PM
3

She tolerated you but she wasn’t interested. Next time, cut it short.
/r/seduction01/06/24 12:17 PM
31

That's another mindset that's destroying your life. Drop this trash thinking. There's no numbers. It's all B.S. that you have bought into. You either want her or not. She wants you or she doesn't. That's all there is to it. You can waste years of your life and end up in many horrible situations if you keep thinking this way. Let it go.
/r/seduction01/06/24 03:20 AM
18

I’m a 5 My mistake. I didn't realize you were a number. I thought you were a man.
/r/seduction01/06/24 03:06 AM
-1

All of the ones on my level What's your level?
/r/seduction01/06/24 03:03 AM
1

I feel like You feel? I feel like it’d only work on girls that are way less attractive than me. It doesn't work on anybody. It just tells you who is interested and who is not. It's not a trick or a tactic. This is the kind of mentality that's destroying your life. I feel like I’d have to be persistent and chase like the other girl Read my other comment again. You are in the group who listens to women. But hey, you're grown man. Do what you think is right for you.
/r/seduction01/06/24 03:02 AM
5

How would you do it? You can't do it how I do it. But I will give you an example you can adapt. "I want us to go bowling this week or next. When are you free?" That's assuming you want to go bowling. If your pics and bio are interesting enough, some will tell you when they are free. Some will say, "I want us to talk more here first." Unmatch. Only deal with those who are down.
/r/seduction01/06/24 02:49 AM
23

So you’re saying I should open them with that? Yes. Now, your pics and your bio should be interesting so that you actually attract some women. Make it about the activity you'll be doing on the date. I shouldn’t build investment What investment? You think a girl texting with you and a 20 other guys make her invest? There's no such thing as building investment. Three groups of people promote this kind of thinking: women because they get free attention, food, and drinks, etc. PUA gurus and such mal…
/r/seduction01/06/24 02:46 AM
2

don’t wanna invest so much energy You are correct. But you still invest energy with the flirting and teasing. When you're do that, you're literally one in the long list of guys giving her attention. Cut it short.
/r/seduction01/06/24 02:42 AM
76

This is a great example of how guys do it wrong. You think that the texting means something. It means nothing. It's entertainment when they are bored. Tell them you want to go out upfront. Ask when they're free. Will they still ignore you? Yes. But at least you won't waste your time. And a few will respect that you're being a man and will go out with you.
/r/seduction01/06/24 02:40 AM
4

OK then. Keep doing that. More for the rest of us.
/r/seduction01/06/24 01:50 AM
2

Then start acting like it. If you want a woman, stop acting like a teen. Make your move.
/r/seduction01/06/24 01:47 AM
5

Are you over 18?
/r/seduction01/06/24 01:46 AM
8

Moral of the story: Confidence is key Where's the confidence? You were so scared to make a move you gave her a flower.
/r/seduction01/06/24 01:27 AM
3

I'm stuck with a girl No, you're not. You are afraid you won't get sex if you break up with her. But let's take it you're saying the truth. Tell her all you want is sex. Also tell me how do I get a girl who doesn't want anything serious? When you approach women, tell them what you want. Let go of the ones who don't want the same thing. Sleep with the ones who only want sex. Why haven't you done that already?
/r/seduction31/05/24 11:49 PM
3

My self esteem is really low This is the core of your issue. Women want your confidence, self-assurance, and integrity. So you need learn how to value yourself. You also have to unlearn the bad habits you have acquired over time - especially thinking badly about yourself. I don't want to find out if women actually see me unattractive. No matter what you do, most women will find you unattractive. You may not realize it but it's the same for you - you find most women unnattractive. The ones you no…
/r/seduction31/05/24 10:50 PM
9

What if you don’t get eye contact with any girls? Still approach. Girls look unhappy and uncomfortable when I approach them. You probably look unhappy and uncomfortable when you approach them. Describe your approach and thought process (DM if you don't want it public.) Can you really be too ugly to approach? Don't worry about that. Looks are secondary to women. Your confidence, self-assurance, and integrity are 10x more important.
/r/seduction31/05/24 10:40 PM
2

You don't have to leave What are you talking about? Don't you have things to do?
/r/seduction31/05/24 09:50 PM
2

It's easier to just be honest when you have no game. Incorrect. Being honest is part of the game. Lying to women is lack of game.
/r/seduction31/05/24 09:30 PM
1

You can simply say, "It was a pleasure to meet you. I've got to go now. Take care!" That's a very polite way to walk away. cheating the game You can't cheat the game.
/r/seduction31/05/24 09:25 PM
3

get maybe 5-10 numbers then the next day follow up and see where those lead. That's too slow. Do you think it makes more sense to make my intentions clear that I wanna take them home that night? Yes, there are many girls who are looking for the same thing. Of course, many are not, that's one of the reasons why you have to approach a lot. I understand the game of figuring out her logistics that night, No, you don't. Don't worry about her logistics. Focus on yours. Once she's ready to go, you shou…
/r/seduction31/05/24 09:18 PM
0

I would like to ask you, why does the concept of "false time constraint" exist? It exists because guys are scared of women and can't tell them what they want. And also because males feel they are bothering a woman when they walk up to her. So it's a mind trick inexperienced guys use to give themselves a feeling of control.
/r/seduction31/05/24 08:38 PM
5

shoulda chatted for 30mins Unless you're making out and touching each other that's way too long. At that point you're either going home together or move on to the next.
/r/seduction31/05/24 08:36 PM
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we talked for like 2hrs Why? with equal effort to keep the convo going on both of our parts Sounds like a budding friendship. Got her number and waited a day or so Why? With hindsight I realize I wanted to disengage from the conversation when I noticed she wasn’t interested. Good instinct. That's exactly what you should have done. You could have approached another 15 - 20 girls in that time. But how do I disengage from the convo if I’m solo? "It was nice to meet you. Take care of yourself!" Smil…
/r/seduction31/05/24 08:36 PM
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The date lasted for 4 hours Why so long? so I think it went well. Before I read the rest of your post, whatever you are about to say next, this is one of the causes. But no, it went very bad. that she is too busy to maintain a relationship. That's because you have shown her how needy, clingy, and inexperienced you are. 4 hours is a lot of time to give to a woman you don't know. A lot. just a way to let me down easy? That's correct. I feel like if your truly interested in someone you will make ti…
/r/seduction31/05/24 08:29 PM
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What? I literally texted u a paragraph and u seemingly ignored all of it I asked you simple questions. For instance, how do you know they want a handsome blue eyed knight, as you defined this man.
/r/seduction31/05/24 07:41 PM
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Im actually pretty submissive. Giving a man an ultimatum is not submissive. If you were submissive, why did you agree after two weeks, not immediately? I'm not saying you should agree right away. What I am saying is that you're not submissive. You have an aggessive approach to men. And your next comment will demonstrate that.
/r/seduction31/05/24 07:22 PM
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Don't worry. One day it will get better for you.
/r/seduction31/05/24 07:03 PM
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I have seen very nice guys & charismatic You found them charismatic. The women didn't. because they wanted the handsome blue eyed knight. And you know this how? and you’re living under a rock, no offense. And you know this how?
/r/seduction31/05/24 07:01 PM
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get your foot in the door. There is no foot and there is no door. That's where you're complicating it. She is either interested or not. That's all there is to it. Stop looking at other men, if you want women. Start looking at the women you want. Make your moves. Forget about the rest. If you do that, you'll have the women you want.
/r/seduction31/05/24 06:52 PM
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Ad hominem. Instant loss of argument.
/r/seduction31/05/24 06:50 PM
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I told him that I can’t go through this anymore and if you aren’t interested in me, I need to move on. That's pressure. After 2 months of waiting That's both pressure and a very short time. A confident man will wait at least 6 -8 months, if not a year. And it's also likely that how you express yourself is aggressive and unpleasant, when it comes to this issue.
/r/seduction31/05/24 06:48 PM
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They come on strong because they can't be honest that what they want is sex. They think or assume that if they promise you a relationship you'll sleep with them. On your side, you can't pressure a man into a relationship. That will never work. Also, when you say you need to move on, it's obvious you don't mean it. Because when they do move on, you are surprised. My guess is that you don't pick men who are truly confident. At the same time, a confident man doesn't want a woman who is impatiend fo…
/r/seduction31/05/24 06:21 PM
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You just gotta be either 1) attractive as hell or 2) very charismatic. Being charismatic is part of being attractive. Now, I'm very suprised that most guys think that being attractive to women means being good looking. Which is not true.
/r/seduction31/05/24 06:14 PM
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There are many variations. It's possible that you expect too much, too quickly. I'd have to know more to figure your specific out. Give an example of a situation that hurt you a lot.
/r/seduction31/05/24 05:49 PM
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most ppl gonna probably have more courtesy for the receptionist? That's correct. That's why most people don't get the best out of life. Letting them sleep over after they've connected with you physically is the human decency thing to do Nope. It's courtesy for them to leave. This right there is about the third biggest mistake males make with women. You want to be the nice guy. And that's how you open the door for drama to come into your life.
/r/seduction31/05/24 05:48 PM
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She doesn’t want you. First of all, using those weird words just shows that you don’t know what you’re doing. Second, she doesn’t want to see you. If you persist, she’ll either ghost, or you’ll end up back here sharing more drama. Respect yourself. Let her go. Even if she comes back to you, let her go.
/r/seduction31/05/24 05:31 PM
4

You are not attractive. Simps are not attractive by definition. Anxiety around women turns them off, making you even less attractive. Start approaching women when you go out.
/r/seduction31/05/24 05:28 PM
5

Maybe you don’t have an interesting personality or you have an unattractive character.
/r/seduction31/05/24 05:27 PM
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OP has weak boundaries that’s why he has granted a relationship before knowing the girl. And no, talking for hours on the phone, or doing fun, stuff doesn’t count as knowing someone.
/r/seduction31/05/24 05:25 PM
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Courtesy to who? What courtesy? She’s still a stranger.
/r/seduction31/05/24 05:23 PM
1

Because if you approached enough, you would know that what you’re saying isn’t true. Maybe you approach more than the average guy. But you don’t approach enough to understand your own question.
/r/seduction31/05/24 05:23 PM
4

It’s not complicated. It’s males and gurus who make it seem complicated.
/r/seduction31/05/24 05:19 PM
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What problem are we solving here?
/r/seduction31/05/24 02:00 PM
58

Avoid thinking about a relationship after a few dates. Avoid letting her sleep over after sex at this stage. Avoid only dating one girl. Avoid thinking that she’s special. Avoid thinking that her age makes her more valuable.
/r/seduction31/05/24 01:59 PM
1

Approach more women. Be direct with them. Focus on what you want. You do that, and you’ll never worry about this stuff again.
/r/seduction31/05/24 01:56 PM
4

Are you a male expecting females to approach you? If that’s the case, that attitude makes you unattractive.
/r/seduction31/05/24 01:42 PM
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They don’t think it’s weird. They only say that so that the guys they find unattractive back off.
/r/seduction31/05/24 01:18 PM
5

Make your money for yourself. You can still meet women. Stop talking down to yourself. Focus on what you want and that’s that.
/r/seduction31/05/24 01:17 PM
1

This is an ineffective mindset. What challenge? You say one thing and do another. The fact that you even think about what a woman’s type might be shows you don’t approach enough women.
/r/seduction31/05/24 01:15 PM
1

It’s done.
/r/seduction31/05/24 01:11 PM
2

Stop thinking about her type is. Women are neither a monolith nor robots. This is real life, not a movie. Go after the women you want. Approach with confidence, you’ll get some of them. As you build your experience, you’ll see that you can attract any type you want.
/r/seduction31/05/24 10:22 AM
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There’s no payoff. Your past relationship was a sign that you need to love yourself more. You need to develop integrity. Build your boundaries. Most guys on here end up in toxic relationships. Why? Because they put sex and women’s validation above their self-respect. You made a similar mistake. And yes, you’re making that mistake now. There’s no lonely chapter. That’s just a choice you made.
/r/seduction31/05/24 10:19 AM
1

Keep it simple. Be clear on what you want. Only go after that. Accept that there’s a lot to learn and experience. Above all, enjoy yourself!
/r/seduction31/05/24 10:14 AM
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It’s because you act different around them. Women are women. The girl that someone calls a 1 will still reject you if she’s not feeling you. Yet, another that you call a 10 will be eager to spend time with you. Forget this number nonsense. My bet is that you’ve only approached 10 - 30 women. Keep meeting the women you want. You’ll soon be kissing the girl of your dreams.
/r/seduction31/05/24 10:13 AM
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Here’s the thing. Women are primarily attracted to your confidence. But your mindset is that you’re not going to get what you want. Is that confident? No! When it comes to attraction, women tune in to what they feel. So they don’t go by objective criteria as many assume. While it’s true that some women will reject you for external reasons, many will want you! So focus on going after those ones.
/r/seduction31/05/24 10:10 AM
1

The only thing that matters is the move you make. What move did you make?
/r/seduction31/05/24 01:56 AM
6

If rejections affect your self-esteem, you’re not confident. Lack of confidence makes males unattractive. So of course they get rejected. You back your confidence by standing for what you believe in. And by staying true to yourself. You value yourself above all.
/r/seduction30/05/24 07:25 PM
1

So you’re all over the place. That’s why you’re struggling. You’re not willing to stand for anything. That’s the source of your troubles with women.
/r/seduction30/05/24 07:21 PM
1

And what do you mean by mostly?
/r/seduction30/05/24 06:40 PM
1

What’s your definition of a long term relationship?
/r/seduction30/05/24 06:39 PM
2

She will show you right at the beginning. Most of the problems in this sub wouldn’t exist if guys just walked away. You will have to be rejected by many women to find the right one. But most males would rather keep trying with one than approach 30 to find one that wants them.
/r/seduction30/05/24 06:38 PM
0

You are focusing on the wrong things. If you don't stop now, it will cost you a lot. It might cost you your life. Now, what do you actually want from women?
/r/seduction30/05/24 05:38 PM
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she keeps dropping sings and low key flirting. She likes the attention. Women love attention - even when they don't want you. this silly game continues. Nope. You're participating. Do I ask her out again, Where is your self-respect? Ask yourself the following question. Does the guy women want behave like this?
/r/seduction30/05/24 05:25 PM
1

The mindset is "She's not attracted to me but I can make her want me." It's a fantasy.
/r/seduction30/05/24 05:22 PM
1

I thought I could. But I can’t.
/r/seduction30/05/24 05:07 PM
3

Why do you need a trick to get a woman’s number?
/r/seduction30/05/24 04:45 PM
2

What I’m saying is, once you know what you want, you go for that. For example, you want to sleep with women, without getting into a serious relationship. You then only deal with women who agree with that. Because that’s what you want. So if she says, “If I sleep with you, we have to start dating seriously,” you let her go. Even if you are a virgin.
/r/seduction30/05/24 04:43 PM
1

OK, so how’s that golden?
/r/seduction30/05/24 03:44 PM
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Yeah but getting a number doesn’t mean anything. What’s the use of a chuckle? If you find this fun, by all means do that. But don’t expect women to take you seriously.
/r/seduction30/05/24 12:12 PM
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You don’t know how to attract women. You don’t have your usual crutches that create the illusion that you’re doing well. Here your experience, or rather lack thereof, has caught up with you. Start meeting women and making moves. You’ll be fine.
/r/seduction30/05/24 12:05 PM
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It depends. If you enjoy it, and you want to do it, do that. If you’re looking for an effective way to meet women who want a sexual and romantic relationships with you, this is not it.
/r/seduction30/05/24 12:02 PM
3

I don’t know.
/r/seduction30/05/24 11:23 AM
5

You’ll have to smile and look at the person you want to approach you. You’ll have to do it for a while because most guys are afraid. So give them time to gather courage. If you are interested in confident men, look good, relax, have fun. Those want you will approach you once they notice you. For this group, you have to be chosen.
/r/seduction30/05/24 10:41 AM
2

It doesn’t mean anything. Stop worrying about all that. Start making confident moves.
/r/seduction30/05/24 10:05 AM
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If you only had sex once you are not friends with benefits. Also, your constant attempts to joke and connect have turned her off. It’s done. Let it go. Focus on other women.
/r/seduction30/05/24 10:04 AM
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The first thing is to find out who you actually are. Right now, you’re trying to figure a persona that you think women will find attractive. To be fair, most guys do that which is why most guys are unattractive.
/r/seduction30/05/24 10:03 AM
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It’s directly against LinkedIn TOS and will get you banned from the site.
/r/seduction30/05/24 10:01 AM
1

What deed?
/r/seduction30/05/24 09:59 AM
3

In that case, these are great questions to ask.
/r/seduction30/05/24 09:59 AM
1

Then the girl is not into you.
/r/seduction30/05/24 09:58 AM
5

it's a golden opportunity What makes it a golden opportunity?
/r/seduction30/05/24 02:12 AM
0

Come on, we're grown men here.
/r/seduction30/05/24 01:33 AM
2

What do you think? I think you're wasting your time. Approach, tell her what you like about her, tell her what you want to do with her, give her the next step. She says yes, you go ahead. She say no or maybe, you keep it moving. Extra talking and all the other nonsense won't help you.
/r/seduction30/05/24 12:43 AM
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Wondering at what point I should ask her out for a coffee or whatever, In reality, you should have asked her right at the beginning. All the extra stuff is not helping, even though I understand that's the conventional approach. But, ask her now. t’s not really my style to try really hard to get sex on a first date, That's a good thing. unless it was on a plate. That's a bad thing. You don't try hard. If you want it, you let her know. That's about it. You accept whatever answer you get. Pretty ha…
/r/seduction29/05/24 11:53 PM
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I take it you're looking for female friends, correct?
/r/seduction29/05/24 10:37 PM
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What I'm saying is that, it's not like you practice a set of steps and sex is the last thing. So, you can't learn anything if you don't want to sleep with the women. That's what most guys think and that's why most guys fail.
/r/seduction29/05/24 10:36 PM
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What would you consider to the reality of meeting women, then? Well, first of all, if you're not interested in sex with women, then there's no point, is there?
/r/seduction29/05/24 10:27 PM
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Wait, so these are fundamentals of what exactly? I’m proud to be taking steps I would’ve been too nervous to when I was younger. Good but be aware that a lot of what you are describing is not connected to reality of meeting women. I will leave it there, I don't think you're serious about meeting women.
/r/seduction29/05/24 10:23 PM
2

Read again. Fundamentals What fundamentals? Mind reading?
/r/seduction29/05/24 09:43 PM
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which I’m sure elevated said attention even more. No, it didn't. Plenty of girls at work have acted super flirtatious since the break-up It means nothing. Women do a lot for attention. Your whole post is your assumptions about what you think the women are thinking. What action did you take to get what you want?
/r/seduction29/05/24 09:38 PM
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Why do you want to talk so much on a date? Can't just make out or something? Fair, you can have a light convo but if you don't know what to say, just kiss her.
/r/seduction29/05/24 08:45 PM
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Does reputation etc. not matter in college? Nobody knows you. If they do, who cares? That's what I said - you have to be willing to be disliked. Because once people realize you're getting girls, you'll have haters. It's part of the game. Also, there are girls outside your college too. It's not that difficult you just have to put in the work. consequences? When they say no, leave them alone forever. Use condoms. Respect yourself. You'll be good.
/r/seduction29/05/24 08:27 PM
1

This is how I already feel lol. It's not about how you feel. It's about being willing to accept it. You whole ordeal around this girl is around avoiding these feelings. If you were willing to accept these emotions, you'd approach regardless. But you are avoiding them thus acting like a child - surely, you understand women don't want that.
/r/seduction29/05/24 08:25 PM
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What about my attitude would you fix? You are not ready for the reality. You'd have to drop all your friends or at least cut down the time you spend with them. You'd have to go out and meet women at least twice a week. And you have to be willing to be disliked, rejected, and unwanted.
/r/seduction29/05/24 08:19 PM
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How can you tell from this? Because talk like someone who has no sexual experience. If you go after women consistently, you'll get some of them. I have tried 5-6 times in this one year Are you joking? Even trying 5 - 6 times a week is low but at least you'd have better odds. I meet/know a fair few women as friends You must be joking. First of all, they are not your friends. I'm talking about pursuing sexual/romantic relationships. You are going to have a very painful life if you don't change you…
/r/seduction29/05/24 08:12 PM
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you should only ask if you're nearly 100% she will say yes This is the kind of mentality that women despise to be approached with. I am assuming you're over 18 here, since this is an over 18 sub. But it's childish thinking. Maybe I am being a pussy, You are being a child. asking her out will get me aired or embarrassed So clearly you're not meeting women. Start talking to women. Meet as many as you can. Right now you're obssessing over someone who is already sleeping with someone else. This does…
/r/seduction29/05/24 08:03 PM
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Reason being is that this college is super duper gossipy Not true. You're scared of what will happen when she says no. over there that pressure is removed What pressure? she's more likely to say yes imo. She is not. Women don't like it when males are so timid. Do you guys just do teasing and subtle complements? No. You just talk to her. If she is not reciprocating, you know she's not interested. For example, the conversation feels dry. Still, even a good conversation is not an indicator that she…
/r/seduction29/05/24 07:24 PM
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Do you think women respect playboys? That's something you'll never know. But, don't give up. Keep learning. You'll get there.
/r/seduction29/05/24 07:04 PM
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and you concluded that i'm not based on nothing I concluded based on what you've written. You are clearly not very experienced with women. As in, you are not a man women respect. So you can't be a playboy. Simple logic.
/r/seduction29/05/24 07:01 PM
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But there are so many variables. how do u make sure something that once worked one girl works again on another This here is one of the reasons why guys struggle. There's no such thing. Girls are not robots. You do the same thing that you want to do. The girls who want you will go along. You let go of the rest. It's not that complicated.
/r/seduction29/05/24 06:58 PM
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I then gave a false time constraint Why? I'm gonna sit for 2 mins then I have to go study Why? I sat down and for the next 15mins You confirmed that you're inconsitent, immature, and not trustworthy. we had a short instant date. In your mind. It wasn't a date. i really struggled during that time That's because you're all over the place. maybe shes shy or maybe shes not a good conversationalist Oh, no, no, no. You're shy. And she wasn't interested. She was kind enough to let you entertain her in …
/r/seduction29/05/24 06:55 PM
1

How did you operate the change? There is no change. The thing is, you are not a playboy, let's start from there. Once you realize you don't know what you're doing, that's when you start focusing on what you want. You become more selective and more effective. Right now, you are just beginning. So keep learning. Focus on what you truly want. You'll get there.
/r/seduction29/05/24 06:48 PM
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every time I make a move towards her, she runs away Leave her alone.
/r/seduction29/05/24 06:09 PM
4

Why do you lock eyes with them? Are you just standing there watching them? By the time you lock eyes you should already be walking towards them. It's like you're expecting a reaction before you make a move.
/r/seduction29/05/24 05:28 PM
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You don't give your intentions. You probably act all clingy and either lead them on or you fall yourself. Stop.
/r/seduction29/05/24 04:34 PM
2

From you have written, you come across as scared of women, rather than nonchalant.
/r/seduction29/05/24 12:34 PM
2

You have a problem with this?
/r/seduction29/05/24 12:15 PM
2

If you are worrying about this , you’ll mess up your dating life. Focus on what you want to do on the date. That’s it.
/r/seduction29/05/24 12:14 PM
2

Wait, so what’s wrong with what you’ve been doing till now?
/r/seduction29/05/24 11:46 AM
2

I love it. This made me laugh.
/r/seduction29/05/24 11:44 AM
1

And the worst part is the advice given makes it even more complex.
/r/seduction29/05/24 11:43 AM
1

This is the kind of advice that breeds people like OP and creates the need for this sub. If you feel like smiling, smile. You don’t want to smile? Don’t. It’s not that deep.
/r/seduction29/05/24 11:41 AM
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I don’t think you are ready for the truth so I’ll only comment on the last paragraph. Things ALWAYS happen easily when the girl wants it too. If she does not want it, leave her alone.
/r/seduction29/05/24 11:33 AM
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She’s busy with other guys. Oh, wait… Did you think you’re the only one? The special one? Nope. To you it was special because you are not consistent with approaching women. To her, you were a new guy to give her loads of attention. It’s normal. Now you know that “feels different” is just a feeling not reality.
/r/seduction29/05/24 11:28 AM
1

She’s not feeling you. The date went well stuff only matters to you. Let it go.
/r/seduction29/05/24 02:18 AM
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All that you’ve said doesn’t matter as much as you think it does. If you didn’t try to sleep with her, don’t worry she knows you are not a fuckboy. And even if you did try, all the extra stuff told her you’re not that experienced. Now it appears you didn’t even kiss her. The correct answer is, to do whatever you want to do. She can say yes and then you do that. Or she will say no, in which case you let her go, perhaps telling her to get back to you whenever she’s ready. But I also assume you wan…
/r/seduction29/05/24 02:17 AM
1

Experience.
/r/seduction28/05/24 03:42 PM
2

Approach loads of women. Be direct. Practice.
/r/seduction28/05/24 03:41 PM
1

Yes, go ahead.
/r/seduction28/05/24 03:41 PM
1

Good luck. Next time don’t wait this long.
/r/seduction28/05/24 03:40 PM
6

This is the correct answer.
/r/seduction28/05/24 11:42 AM
1

Actually, that’s not what separates them.
/r/seduction28/05/24 11:40 AM
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You can get good comments if you’re bad, so that’s irrelevant. Girls often try to manage fragile egos. Become incredible in bed, that’s solved your problem. Other than that, stop worrying about things that don’t matter.
/r/seduction28/05/24 07:09 AM
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Become incredible in bed.
/r/seduction28/05/24 06:46 AM
0

In general, all you can do is stop texting so much. What will determine the future is mostly how attractive he finds you physically and how you make his life easier. But he should also be able to express what he wants from you. Your best bet is to lay back a bit and follow his lead. You can’t really force the situation or make him chase you. Even if you could, it wouldn’t improve the relationship.
/r/seduction28/05/24 06:44 AM
1

Yes, but what makes you think he is interested in you romantically?
/r/seduction28/05/24 06:26 AM
2

How interested is he in you?
/r/seduction28/05/24 06:20 AM
2

Hahaha that’s the way it goes. Guys keep struggling because they resist the fundamentals that will help them get better results. About 1 in a thousand gets it when you present them with reality. I’m here for those rare ones.
/r/seduction28/05/24 04:35 AM
1

Trade the TV and manga for helping people. You’ll find what you’re looking for.
/r/seduction27/05/24 11:22 PM
2

Why are you waiting for the party before making a move?
/r/seduction27/05/24 10:58 PM
2

What are you asking?
/r/seduction27/05/24 10:56 PM
1

I don't believe you.
/r/seduction27/05/24 10:14 PM
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I think you should also go after the Instagram girls. That's my opinion.
/r/seduction27/05/24 10:02 PM
-11

that girls who seem to be more interested in how they’re perceived on Instagram, are more likely to be vain If you write a post about it, you care. Still it's nobody's business. Let the girls do what they want to do. she’s worth pursuing or not. Of course he should pursue. He needs to find out how much they care about him.
/r/seduction27/05/24 09:42 PM
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Yes, you are exaggerating. Why? Because it’s none of your business what the girls do. If you like them, make a move. If you don’t, let them be. Why do you care?
/r/seduction27/05/24 09:09 PM
1

You need to know yourself better. It seems you're constantly looking for external stimulation. While it's good, you also need some alone time. And learn how to love your own company. What else do you like doing besides gym? Also, what do you do that contributes to other people's lives?
/r/seduction27/05/24 09:05 PM
2

I can't approach a girl alone in the street Why not? imagine going to a bar alone and just watching people pass and talk and have fun while you are alone I've been doing it. That's my favourite way to meet women. I don't want to wait a year to have my first time. Then, you have to put aside all the stuff you've said. You must gather courage and start talking to women. If you really have no clue, you can message me.
/r/seduction27/05/24 07:53 PM
1

How did it work?
/r/seduction27/05/24 07:50 PM
2

Italy so girls are not as friendly as in other countries. What other countries have you been to? If you really want to, you have to start going out on your own. In general, I prefer going out by myself. It's easier to focus. Take your time. Start going out. You'll get there.
/r/seduction27/05/24 05:07 PM
1

Nope. Nobody else can make you happy.
/r/seduction27/05/24 03:29 PM
1

If you anticipate drama, as is usual with this kind of situation, and you want this drama, go for it. But know that the drama will ensue.
/r/seduction27/05/24 03:27 PM
2

If you were to the point, they’d know exactly what you’re after.
/r/seduction27/05/24 03:21 PM
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Why are you worried about what women must do? Are you a woman?
/r/seduction27/05/24 03:20 PM
3

You are overthinking this. What matters is that you speak clearly, with confidence, and you look her in the eye. “Hello” does the job just fine.
/r/seduction27/05/24 01:43 PM
1

It didn’t work. She wasn’t interested in you. A girl talking to you, even kissing you means nothing, especially in a bar/club. Yes, girls have egos too. But that’s not the same as her desiring you.
/r/seduction27/05/24 12:05 PM
1

No. That’s what most keep recommending. It’s because they think you’re going to somehow make the girl want you. That she starts neutral or negative and you somehow work your way up. That’s the whole premise of the industry. It’s also the reason why guys keep buying dating products and then, at best, get into dysfunctional relationships. You could argue that the world economy runs largely based on this belief. (Fancy cars, dinners, trips, jewellery gifts, Val’s day etc. ) But in reality, most of …
/r/seduction27/05/24 11:59 AM
1

It goes blank because you’re scared to speak what you want.
/r/seduction27/05/24 11:46 AM
1

Because of how you act. They can tell you’re disconnected with yourself. So they expect a friend or a relative to monitor your behaviour Or they think you’ll do something odd and don’t feel safe. So they hope someone is with you who can control you.
/r/seduction27/05/24 11:45 AM
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Why would you say something like that? Just let them know what you want. They’ll agree or say no. Don’t complicate things. In any case, when you say it, the girls know you’re scared to make a move.
/r/seduction26/05/24 01:44 AM
1

The same thing that stops them from seeing she doesn’t want them, as in OP’s case.
/r/seduction26/05/24 01:20 AM
1

She wants you to give her attention. Maybe help her with photography or other favours. To keep you as an ego boost. So no, there’s nothing more. No matter what you do, you’ll end up disappointed if you’re hoping she’ll ever want you.
/r/seduction26/05/24 01:19 AM
1

this girl who is into me and is probably down to hook up. So why do you have to wait till tomorrow? She is not into you. But you can find out. Just tell her what you want to do with her before you get there. Don't just start touching her. If she's interested, she'll let you know.
/r/seduction25/05/24 11:13 PM
1

some want a relationship from the start and some want to just have fun. Ignore the relationship ones completely. But how do you know they want relationships from the start? how to tailor a profile to go for sex? Have good pictures in a casual environment. A lounge, for incstance. Don't do poses pe se, but rather, for example, have someone take a pic of you having a drink. If you have a good body, wear clothes that show that. You can even take a pic on your bed. I've not done that but I've seen g…
/r/seduction25/05/24 11:02 PM
1

No, you are just not accepting that most women will not want you no matter what you do. So you probably talk too much. Just keep it simple.
/r/seduction25/05/24 10:57 PM
2

It's that simple.
/r/seduction25/05/24 10:56 PM
1

girls get bored by me Maybe they do? If you stand there talking for more than three minutes, you're doing something wrong. starting to get myself convinced with the belief that “girls turned on by me when I’m talking to them” ? Instead of doing all that, why don't you just start acting like a grown up man? Walk up, tell her what you like about her, tell her what you want to do, give her the next step, and accept whatever response you get?
/r/seduction25/05/24 10:34 PM
2

It starts with your whole profile. Your pics and your bio. Right now, you come across as if you want to impress these girls. If you know you want to sleep with them, make your profile about that. It will take some time, but you can keep improving. You'll know because girls will start messaging you about it. If you want to go for drinks, make your profile about the experience of having a drink with you. Again, you'll know when you have the sweet spot because girls will ask about it when they mess…
/r/seduction25/05/24 10:19 PM
3

Girls kept asking where my friends were. That's code for, "You're weird, who is watching you?"
/r/seduction25/05/24 10:14 PM
2

Proficient in day game, but trash at night game. No, you just convinced yourself. Women are the same. It's you who needs to see it. Until you do, you won't get the best results. Your whole process is that of someone who doesn't know how to attract women. The thing is, at night, women are less patient with you because they have so many guys approaching. They really don't like the energy of guys who don't how to make moves. Ditch what you think you know. You'll get better both at night and in the …
/r/seduction25/05/24 10:13 PM
1

I think I want to try out sleeping with some of my female coworkers. What makes her your type when it comes to serious relationships?
/r/seduction25/05/24 10:09 PM
2

I'm beginning to think there's more at play here. This seems to go beyond dating.
/r/seduction25/05/24 10:09 PM
2

I think I want to try out sleeping with some of my female coworkers. Don't do it. Your post makes it clear you're very inexperienced. Of course, if losing your job is not an issue (or other HR related issues) then, have a go. But if what you're looking for is women, there are easier ways to do this. (You can message me if you want to talk.)
/r/seduction25/05/24 10:05 PM
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Yes, you do care. A lot. If you didn't, you wouldn't ask this question.
/r/seduction25/05/24 09:57 PM
0

exchange a few lines back and forth This is where you're messing up. based on what we talked about. This is where they know the've got you. They lose most of the interest by this stage because they know your category. either way they end up just not responding and the lead goes cold. It was never warm in the first place. Am I doing something obviously wrong here, or should I just chalk this up to general flakiness? It depends on how you look at it. You're just doing what the averege guy does. So…
/r/seduction25/05/24 09:56 PM
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What don't you understand?
/r/seduction25/05/24 09:37 PM
1

Meaning she always wants me to lead and pay for all the dates. Those are two different things. The short answer is, she doesn't want you. You either live with it and keep spending till she lives you, or dump her now.
/r/seduction25/05/24 09:37 PM
1

You have a point. The trouble is, people don't know how to differentiate between who they are and the persona they think they must have.
/r/seduction25/05/24 09:34 PM
1

Why is night game so much harder than day game? First of all, those are abstract concepts that have not relation to real life. Then, during the day, guys have set an artbitrary standard that makes it OK to ask for less than what you want. Or simply put, you can pretend you don't want sex. So you can get phone numbers and think you have game. Whereas at night, it's clearer when you don't know what you're doing.
/r/seduction25/05/24 09:21 PM
1

Can anyone atleast give some pointers for this Practice you're referring to? Tell people what you want. walk away from people and situation that are not in line with what you want. Speak your mind.
/r/seduction25/05/24 09:07 PM
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It’s only smooth when you DON’T say or do anything that makes the other person lose interest to your words. Inaccurate. It's smooth as long as you don't care whether or not the other loses interest in your words.
/r/seduction25/05/24 09:06 PM
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How can I become a smooth talker? There's no such thing. It's an illusion you perceieve when you're scared to say what's on your mind. Start saying what you want even when you know people won't like it. Now, I'm no saying don't ever consider. But you can't be bothered with trying to get people to like you. You do that long enough, you'll gather experience. And one day, someone will think you're a smooth talker.
/r/seduction25/05/24 09:05 PM
1

What’s a lady?
/r/seduction25/05/24 05:19 PM
5

Send your wife to make a move. Or go make a move yourself. What else do you think you can do?
/r/seduction25/05/24 02:19 AM
13

It's all the same thing. Make a move. She accepts. Or rejects. Then, you proceed as you would with any other woman.
/r/seduction24/05/24 11:07 PM
1

You need to be more specific about what you want.
/r/seduction24/05/24 09:18 PM
5

Inaccurate. She knew he was into her. She just never wanted him.
/r/seduction24/05/24 05:05 PM
1

Wait. You were acting like a friend all that time. So you should be upset with yourself, not her.
/r/seduction24/05/24 05:04 PM
1

No, it means she is not interested in him. Sure, she will get attention from those who are willing to talk for two days etc. But she acts different with the guys she wants.
/r/seduction24/05/24 05:00 PM
1

Because they got the attention they wanted. What you think is rapport building is them getting entertained. You do all that because you think somehow it will make them want you. But no. Stop wasting time on these long convos. Let them know what you want. If they’re down, you do it. If not, on to the next.
/r/seduction24/05/24 04:57 PM
5

You need to get to know yourself better. Maybe therapy will help. But once you know who you are you start to care less about other people’s acceptance of you. You also have to learn to keep going. So, find a quiet spot. Get yourself together. Approach the next one. It takes a lot of approaches to get good and comfortable with all this.
/r/seduction24/05/24 04:54 PM
1

What do you want from these women?
/r/seduction24/05/24 04:51 PM
1

So you mean, it is easy if she is interested in you. Exactly.
/r/seduction24/05/24 04:25 PM
1

The stuff you do when a woman is interested in you. I don't know what you do with them.
/r/seduction24/05/24 03:57 PM
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I don’t know what I am doing wrong. You mess up before you start. But you only see the results when you show interest. It's like if a rocket is too slow to escape gravity. The problem comes from what happens during takeoff. Even you thinking in stages is a mistake. That's not how it works. If a girl is interested in you, then you take the number and do the other stuff. If she's not, you keep it moving.
/r/seduction24/05/24 03:31 PM
4

Well, you’re probably started clinging onto her. Let her go.
/r/seduction24/05/24 11:41 AM
1

Still, the same thing. You’re just setting yourself up. These girls are trying to see how they can use you because it’s clear you are quick to get attached. But then they don’t find you useful so they move on. So it’s not like you lost a chance. It’s more that you attract women who don’t want you. You have to meet more women and learn how to filter them out quickly.
/r/seduction23/05/24 10:49 PM
-4

So how is a kiss an end result?
/r/seduction23/05/24 10:37 PM
3

Read all my comments. They apply to this also. You’re looking for reasons to believe you did something special. Never contact them again.
/r/seduction23/05/24 10:32 PM
3

This is why you’re so easy.
/r/seduction23/05/24 10:30 PM
-2

I asked, what do YOU mean?
/r/seduction23/05/24 10:30 PM
0

Don’t do it at your work place. Believe it or not, there are women outside your office. And there are also more appropriate places.
/r/seduction23/05/24 10:28 PM
5

They’re running game on you. Even if they had sex with you it’s part of it. It’s to get you hooked not because they want you. You want to believe it so badly that’s why your so easy. Never contact them again.
/r/seduction23/05/24 10:27 PM
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End result? What do you mean?
/r/seduction23/05/24 10:25 PM
0

All the your mom would love her stuff is a sign you just don’t know how to turn a woman on.
/r/seduction23/05/24 10:24 PM
3

Because you’re prey. How much did your friend pay?
/r/seduction23/05/24 10:23 PM
3

Your friend is not telling you the whole story. If you paid, or you had something that’s worth stealing from you or robbing you, then yeah. She didn’t want you from the start.
/r/seduction23/05/24 10:22 PM
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If you care about yourself, never contact these females again.
/r/seduction23/05/24 10:20 PM
8

You never had a chance. As they say, it’s easier to fool a man than show him he’s been fooled.
/r/seduction23/05/24 10:18 PM
6

The girls didn’t want to have sex with you. They thought they oiled run some game on you. That’s all. You got played and your need for validation is your biggest weakness. Also, your friend probably is not telling you the whole story.
/r/seduction23/05/24 10:17 PM
1

He would also do nothing if he would see that she doesnt want him? That's part of respecting yourself.
/r/seduction23/05/24 09:37 PM
1

Let it go.
/r/seduction23/05/24 09:33 PM
1

It's your whole thinking process and lack of self-respect. Using a sports analogy, someone who never exercises can't be a good boxer. Sure, you could know some moves, maybe people have a good laugh with you. But nobody will take you serious for a fight. They'd never invest themselves in you becuase you don't have what's needed to be a fighter. It's the same thing. You're another guy. You are desperately going after someone who doesn't want you. You don't know about certain things because they ar…
/r/seduction23/05/24 09:31 PM
2

I am not completely bad with women. Again, you're showing your level. Is like someone saying, "I'm a good swimmer because I can stay above the water." Tell me how to be seen as not "the comfort guy". As long as you're stuck on her, that's what you'll be. Not just to her but to other females as well. You're not the kind of guy they want to be with. Just sleep over this and read it all tomorrow. Better still, print it out first. You'll see how needy you are. What would you do? I'd let it go.
/r/seduction23/05/24 09:28 PM
1

I found someone hot and got a number. This is how she knows you're not good with women.
/r/seduction23/05/24 09:23 PM
2

I can tell based on what you have written. Even the fact that you think sleeping with a woman means you're good with women, shows your level. Women deal with guys who know what they're doing. So she knows you're not one of them because she has been with you in a relationship. You're the comfort guy, the nice guy, the person she can rely on. But she also deals with guys on another level. Those guys obviously won't date her - that's when you come in. In any case, she doesn't want you. So let it go…
/r/seduction23/05/24 09:18 PM
3

OK, so let's say some girls think you're ugly or unattractive. Why does it matter?
/r/seduction23/05/24 09:12 PM
2

First of all, your neediness is enough to turn her off even if she wanted you before (which she didn't.) She's saying all that because she knows it will reel you in. She knows how desperate you are to be with her. She knows what you want to hear. So she's leading you on. She also knows you're not very good with women. Not that she cares but it ensures you'll be stuck on her. Let it go.
/r/seduction23/05/24 09:07 PM
0

This is why it is named "game" because you "play" the women using all kinds of tricks until you get what you want. That's weak.
/r/seduction23/05/24 09:00 PM
0

It's done. Over. She's focused on the other guy now. But, you can wait till he is too busy for her. She'll probably reach out then.
/r/seduction23/05/24 08:57 PM
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What would you suggest for me to regain my previous standing in her eyes before we had this fight? Nothing. it doesn't sound like she ever took you seriusly anyway. Let it go. Break up with her. If you stay, you'll get hurt really really bad.
/r/seduction23/05/24 08:53 PM
1

This is the correct answer.
/r/seduction23/05/24 08:48 PM
2

HOW I CAN MAXIMIZE CHANCES OF GETTING HER BACK? You have zero chances. How do you maximize zero?
/r/seduction23/05/24 08:47 PM
1

Go read the article of seduction Please. I already stated that it's all nonsense.
/r/seduction23/05/24 08:35 PM
2

In Romania there are so called VIP tables and we pay for such a table There tables like this everywhere. Now let me get this clear. You think that a girl coming for free drinks and attention at the VIP table means she likes you? You didn't answer my other questions either. If the girl activates and then realizes you're need and insecure, then what?
/r/seduction23/05/24 08:34 PM
1

the rejection This is the root fear behind all that you have written. But again, people who not needy don't fear rejection.
/r/seduction23/05/24 08:23 PM
1

The explanation is illogical. The fact that you're with females in a club means nothing. And, even if it did get you some attention it's useless. You still have to approach and get things going. But let's say it does get her to say, listen to you. Now, she's that you're needy and insecure, not like she thought. Then what? If you're not needy and insecure, she can experience that when you approach her anyway. And secure people don't bother with activation or selection whatever nonsense that is. W…
/r/seduction23/05/24 08:21 PM
1

It sounds like fantasy to me. Activate? What, like they are robots or something? In the past, I have gone out with females. It doesn't make any real difference. If anything, it slows me down. Even if I were to go out with other people, I still separate myself to go and talk to women. Also, Mystery is not a reliable source of dating advice.
/r/seduction23/05/24 08:02 PM
2

Kissing a girl means nothing. It doesn't matter her age. You can also take girls home without kissing them. It's almost irrelevant.
/r/seduction23/05/24 07:28 PM
1

I don't see how this mindset is based on reality. And kindly share how you are able to read other people's minds.
/r/seduction23/05/24 06:44 PM
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The kiss barrier is the biggest one, IMO. If you can get that far you're golden. What are you talking about? Girls will kiss for attention all the time. It's easy to kiss girls in a club. It means nothing.
/r/seduction23/05/24 06:27 PM
2

If i go for pull, what do I say? You can just tell her you want to take her home and get her naked. She'll either do it or not. If not, you can give her your number or just move on to the next.
/r/seduction23/05/24 06:26 PM
0

I don't think women would be able to let go of their fear between so many unknown people I don't know about that. For the most part they look like they'rehaving fun. or even HEAR you. All you need to do is to move her to a quiet area. understand your witty replies or your seductive intent. What is all that? Can't expect seduction when you can't even handle conversations! Thoughts? You clearly talk too much. You are not giving a calculus lecture. If she wants to talk to you, she'll follow you to …
/r/seduction23/05/24 06:22 PM
1

What gaming methods? It’s needy because if you have to do all that, she’s clearly not interested in you at all. The fact that you’re then going out of your way to perform these weird things thinking she’ll like you is needy too. You have learn to let go when a woman doesn’t want you. You also waste a lot time talking so the girl gets even more convinced that you don’t know how to deal with women. And that’s why you overthink simple situations because you can’t accept that she’s not interested in…
/r/seduction23/05/24 05:27 PM
1

What prey? You still haven’t explained how acting needy makes you attractive to women.
/r/seduction23/05/24 05:21 PM
1

How can acting needy and over-thinking work?
/r/seduction23/05/24 04:43 PM
1

You’ve read too much nonsense and watched too many videos. It looks like you like to work to get them to like you. Needy, time-wasting, and ineffective.
/r/seduction23/05/24 04:39 PM
2

If you she gives you her Instagram, it means nothing. If she follows you back, it means nothing. If she doesn’t follow you back, it means nothing None of this is relevant to attracting women. What you need is focus on what you want. And let them know. The contact details then become a tool to arrange logistics.
/r/seduction23/05/24 03:55 PM
1

So what are three example of how you made them work for it?
/r/seduction23/05/24 10:23 AM
1

“Was.” That’s past tense. Stay safe.
/r/seduction22/05/24 08:16 PM
1

Some of the views are nonsense. There’s only one way to find out which ones are true.
/r/seduction22/05/24 06:59 PM
1

It is esoteric. That’s why most people suffer till they die.
/r/seduction22/05/24 06:53 PM
1

I know that. The trick is to know when you are right. And sadly, this sub has proven people will I got their best instincts. Or rather, they don’t realise when their instincts are right. So they take part in useless discussions.
/r/seduction22/05/24 06:52 PM
2

I know that. The trick is to know when you are right. And sadly, this sub has proven people will I got their best instincts. Or rather, they don’t realise when their instincts are right. So they take part in useless discussions.
/r/seduction22/05/24 06:52 PM
1

Look, the problem is that these days people think they deserve the teaching. You have to work for it, not the teacher. There is a whole world to unfold for you. I had to humble myself for my teachers. And I did. I expect no less from the people who want to learn from me.
/r/seduction22/05/24 05:25 PM
1

It’s interesting to watch males adopt female forms of expression.
/r/seduction22/05/24 04:57 PM
1

Yeah, but what do you think that signifies? I’m talking about reality not what most guys in this sub want to believe.
/r/seduction22/05/24 04:56 PM
0

The thing is, it’s simple. People, and women are people too, will fall into the group to feel safe. But when it comes to sex, people will break out when they really want it.
/r/seduction22/05/24 04:54 PM
1

It’s because men give them the territory. She’s slept over? That’s territory.
/r/seduction22/05/24 04:49 PM
0

Most guys catch feelings quick time. Take it how you see it.
/r/seduction22/05/24 04:47 PM
2

Respect.
/r/seduction22/05/24 03:01 PM
1

Yeah, so why are you resisting? I’m not nice, I’m still trying to help you.
/r/seduction22/05/24 03:01 PM
1

It comes down to being who you truly are and being aware of the world you live in. But most guys, including gurus, think it’s a bunch of tricks and tactics to make women want you.
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:53 PM
1

Good lad.
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:41 PM
1

It doesn’t matter. Reality stays the same. You’re the one who needs help.
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:40 PM
1

Yes, I do. But you are not direct about it. So unless you’re trying to impress other guys, you must step up your game. Women can tell you’re not confident about sex. They can also tell you think you have game. That’s your weakness.
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:39 PM
1

Like what? Talk about your childhood memories and stuff?
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:11 PM
1

Come to your place for what?
/r/seduction22/05/24 11:45 AM
1

No, they’re the same as all others. You’re putting too much energy into her. Just treat it as just another woman to approach. But, since you’ve already put her on a pedestal I’d say let it go.
/r/seduction22/05/24 11:45 AM
1

I read yours. I’m sure you’ve impressed a couple of people. But, based on what you’ve written you don’t know what you’re doing.
/r/seduction22/05/24 11:43 AM
1

On what planet?
/r/seduction22/05/24 02:45 AM
0

I don’t get it. She is not into you. So why does all this matter?
/r/seduction22/05/24 02:16 AM
1

How do they earn going to your place?
/r/seduction22/05/24 02:06 AM
1

You just need to speak to more women. The ones you’re referring to are not into you, that’s all. There are many more women out there. Where is the part where you’re being direct? Please share an example.
/r/seduction22/05/24 02:06 AM
1

Are you joking? Is this a prank?
/r/seduction22/05/24 02:03 AM
1

You need help from a good therapist. Your issues are beyond Reddit’s jurisdiction. And you need to learn how to meet women.
/r/seduction22/05/24 02:01 AM
1

Now do a day in your life.
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:53 AM
1

This is the correct answer.
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:51 AM
2

She knows what she wants. It’s not you.
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:50 AM
2

Not true. She’s not interested.
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:49 AM
1

Plus, you’re forgetting about the guys she’s sleeping with. They have to be unavailable before she can make time for you.
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:49 AM
3

This is not true. They’ll text you when they’re into you. This girl is not into OP.
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:48 AM
1

You messed it up during the first date, probably before. She can tell you don’t know what you’re doing. She enjoyed the attention, I don’t if you spent money on her, but definitely the attention was great. Then you want days only to send her some irrelevant stuff to confirm that you don’t have a clue. That’s all there is to it. You need to keep meeting me women.
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:47 AM
1

Dobre.
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:44 AM
1

If only OP would listen.
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:43 AM
2

Crack is real.
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:42 AM
1

I thought I used to smoke good stuff but you must be on some high grade stuff. Please walk me through from the inspiration of this idea, through to conception, to the moment where you thought, “Yeah, this is one thing that I should do in my lifetime.”
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:40 AM
1

Do you approach women?
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:35 AM
2

Hey, it is what it is. The app is just meeting the demand.
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:32 AM
1

You’re getting downvotes but you are correct. I don’t know if guys really want help. Or they just want to trade tricks and beauty tips.
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:30 AM
2

Look, you’re getting defensive but you’re getting the best advice you could. The reality is not as exciting as you want it to be. It’s very simple. If you want to hit on girls in the club, you have to step up your game. You can’t be doing the stuff you did.
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:29 AM
1

Oh, what do you think “observing a girl for 45 minutes so you don’t intrude in case there’s a man” is?
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:26 AM
2

This is the best answer on this thread.
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:24 AM
0

Why would you keep making moves on a girl who’s so drunk she’s falling over?
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:22 AM
1

No, you can still approach them. They don’t always cockblock. Acknowledge the group and then make your moves. If the girl is slow, you let her be. If she’s down, take her to the side and let her know what’s up.
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:19 AM
6

The girl wasn’t interested in you anyway so you didn’t miss anything. A lot of times they cockblock but not always. I’ve had situations where the friend knew I was taking the girl him and didn’t stop it. I’ve also had situations where the friend cockblocked but the girl still went home with me. You can’t chitchat in the club. You’re too slow. Make a move. If you’re taking her home, you have to let her know quick so she can tell no or yes quick. If you’re making out, and that’s it, and she’s down…
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:16 AM
2

What about all the other women you’re dealing with?
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:10 AM
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You can go out alone. You can approach women. You can learn how to interact with people. Hint: people will find you interesting if you’re genuinely interested in them.
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:09 AM
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He must cut her off. But he is not doing because he thinks she likes him and therefore he thinks he has a chance. She never liked him. Half the posts on here are the same situation. The guys look at the tiniest possibility and convince themselves that a girl likes them. Yet, she’s just using them. OP must realise that his neediness is causing him to get used and played. But he won’t realise it until it hits him that she never wanted him and never will.
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:04 AM
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Who cares what she’s implying? What do you want to do with her?
/r/seduction22/05/24 12:58 AM
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Again, it didn’t. You just think it did because of your lack of experience and low standards. But when your learn the truth, you’ll realise that it did nothing for you.
/r/seduction22/05/24 12:56 AM
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She did that because she enjoys he is needy for her and gives her attention. She’s playing with him. She says one thing but does another. What matters more? The actions? Or the words?
/r/seduction22/05/24 12:55 AM
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No, thank you. But I’m sure there are guys who will fall for it. Keep working hard at it, if you believe in the idea. Especially since it’s revolutionised your dating life.
/r/seduction22/05/24 12:44 AM
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Going out to meet women is a great resource. Leaving all the nonsense theories is another. And no, the Mystery stuff didn’t work because true game is with you forever. It’s not a bunch of tricks. It’s about being authentic.
/r/seduction22/05/24 12:41 AM
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What makes you think she likes him?
/r/seduction22/05/24 12:39 AM
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She never liked you. She wants her boyfriend. He is not like you, so she needs a nice guy to make her feel good when he doesn’t need her. That’s where you come in. No matter which way you look at it, it ends with you crying. You need to let her go. Grieve. Then move on. You’re 24. That’s old enough to be a man.
/r/seduction22/05/24 12:38 AM
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It’s all good. It’s just disappointing that guys don’t want to face reality.
/r/seduction21/05/24 10:58 PM
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You need to let them know before you take their number. You’re wasting a lot of time. Now, I know that the consensus is build rapport and other nonsense. But that’s B.S. for guys who are scared of rejection. Of course, feel the situation out and see if she’s responsive to you. But it takes a couple minutes max for that. Let them know what you specifically like about them. If they’re stand offish or you can tell they’re not into you, tell them it was nice to meet them. Wish them a good day and ke…
/r/seduction21/05/24 10:57 PM
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What are you texting them?
/r/seduction21/05/24 10:05 PM
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You tell them what you want before you get the number. If they’re not interested in that, you drop them. Better to find out in 2 minutes than in two weeks. From one angle, you can look at this as a process of weeding out those who don’t want what you want.
/r/seduction21/05/24 10:04 PM
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How soon do you let them know you want to sleep with them?
/r/seduction21/05/24 10:01 PM
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As a man, your outward appearance is just one component of being attractive.
/r/seduction21/05/24 09:58 PM
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This is some of the best advice on this sub. Well done. The problem is, most guys don’t accept or acknowledge when they’re rejected or disrespected. They interpret every sign of friendliness as a signal to try again or to keep going. Likewise, these guys don’t accept that the woman is just playing with them. Still, if people apply what you’re saying they’ll find it way easier to deal with women. Good stuff!
/r/seduction21/05/24 09:57 PM
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Of course.
/r/seduction21/05/24 09:44 PM
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Are you convincing me or yourself? Your question clearly shows you’re clueless when it comes to attracting women. Hey, it’s all good. Keep doing this stuff. You don’t want the truth. So stay in your excuses.
/r/seduction21/05/24 04:03 PM
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No you don’t. If you did, you wouldn’t care about such minutia.
/r/seduction21/05/24 03:50 PM
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I believe you need to meet more women. Why does this matter so much to you?
/r/seduction21/05/24 03:00 PM
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No, it’s not. I’m not a therapist so I can’t help you. But you do need one.
/r/seduction21/05/24 02:55 PM
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Look, stop finding excuses. And if you want help, be respectful about it. You can follow the nonsense and be like the other guys. Or put in the work and enjoy your experiences with women. With this attitude you’ll just be trading tricks and tactics rather than living your life.
/r/seduction21/05/24 02:54 PM
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The big problem is that first of all you don’t understand boundaries. And self-control. You can get yourself in some serious trouble.
/r/seduction21/05/24 12:10 PM
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You need to see a therapist. And all of the other commenters too. If you don’t see what you’re doing wrong, you have some serious issues to deal with.
/r/seduction21/05/24 11:52 AM
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So what’s your next move?
/r/seduction21/05/24 11:47 AM
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You pay too much attention to this stuff. You clearly need more experience. Go out. Interact with people. Make moves on the women you want. If you stay focused and consistent, you’ll know what to do. Most of the advice you’ve mentioned is based on a false premise. So all conclusions are wrong. You can only find out the truth by taking action.
/r/seduction21/05/24 11:46 AM
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She has anorexia. OK, so her therapist can deal with that. Begged her to not leave That's one of the reasons why she doesn't want you... kept in contact with her. ...and why she doesn't respect you. She still wants to be friends Come on. Really? is there anyway to rekindle the spark betwen us ? No.
/r/seduction18/05/24 12:36 AM
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What are you asking? How do you behave when you go out? Are you over 18?
/r/seduction18/05/24 12:12 AM
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am I wrong for assuming she wants more than company? Yes. how do I find out her actual intentions without embarrassing myself What intentions? Are you not leading the situation? And how do I keep her hanging on a bit, You can't. this is not something to destroy my marital bed for, despite what my 'bettet half' has done. Oh, that one is yet to play out. We'll wait for that post.
/r/seduction18/05/24 12:11 AM
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what's the play here? Walk away.
/r/seduction17/05/24 11:34 PM
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A girl that doesn't want you now might want you in a month or a year. Again, that's not how to think. In a month, or a year, won't you meet women who treat you way better than she does?
/r/seduction17/05/24 10:47 PM
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I'm talking more from a place of rekindling or reconnecting, usually after a small mistake, a fumble, or some transgression that can be overcome. Leave that to the other guyss. You go and get someone better than that. But trying to get back in touch with somebody isn't the worst idea. That all depends on how much you enjoy being being disrespected.
/r/seduction17/05/24 10:45 PM
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I never told her I was pulling back. It doesn't matter. It's a behaviour pattern. So you should it inn other ways. Women read subtleties. That's why you have to be the real thing. How? I told you. Let the grief, the sting, the torment go through to completion. Don't resist it. Walk towards the pain. But don't hold on to it. Let it go. It will be excruciating but you'll make it through. Like fire forges steel, the pain will forge your soul.
/r/seduction17/05/24 10:43 PM
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I don't think that necessarily means she would prefer that forever This is your mistake. You think what she prefers is relevant. If she doesn't act up, you let her go. Not because of what she wants. But because of who you are.
/r/seduction17/05/24 10:16 PM
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It isn’t following her lead. Yes it is. You said you'd pull back when she did. So you were reacting to her. That's following her lead. Take the pain of knowing you were needy and desperate. Once that pain goes away, you'll be more confident. But if you resist, you will keep repeating this mistake.
/r/seduction17/05/24 09:52 PM
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Well the verbal and physical feedback after in person would tell me otherwise. The fact that you are taking her words seriously just shows you have the wrong mindset. So, did you blush? What did you do when she said this stuff to you?
/r/seduction17/05/24 09:50 PM
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But I've gotten whole relationships from girls who were shy and actually admired how I was still really interested in contacting but not desperate or constantly asking for anything. Let me guess. All those girls ended up disrescting and dumping you later on? Or they pretend to be your friend now?
/r/seduction17/05/24 09:46 PM
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at least pulled back at the slightest inkling of her pulling back That's still weak. You're following her lead.
/r/seduction17/05/24 09:45 PM
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I’ll probably hit her up in another week before I go out of town for a month and if nothing o well, I’m gone anyway. No, no, no. Unless she reaches out to you, never speak to her again. Else you'll regret. But if I were you, I'd let it go, because you already did too much.
/r/seduction17/05/24 09:43 PM
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Didn’t let it get to my head though. Yes, you did. Else, you wouldn't have mentioned it. I’ve basically lost my own interest because I think it’s whack, Then why such a long post? She’s a smart independent girl What's that? s, and even seemed to really dodge questions when I asked her questions about herself, Because you're acting like it's Christmas. I know now I probably should have just waited all together for her to reach out again the day after the date Nope. You just didn't reach out the r…
/r/seduction17/05/24 09:40 PM
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Yes, so that’s you. It has nothing to do with women. If your relationship was boring, that’s your lack of leadership skills.
/r/seduction17/05/24 10:50 AM
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If you think going on those adventures will make you more attractive to women, you’ll be disappointed. You are trying to fit into an archetype, essentially being someone who you are not. And you’re over complicating things. Almost as if you’re trying to compensate for being boring. Also, none of the things you’ve mentioned are adventures. They are just things you can do when you have money. There’s nothing special about them. Now, to socialise there are events every day you can find. To meet wom…
/r/seduction17/05/24 10:13 AM
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It was not mistake on her part. She didn’t care enough. Stop making excuses for her. Sure, you didn’t need to snap. But you’re forgetting that girls broadcast messages to all the guys who think like you. They get the ego boost from all the replies and attention. Also, why do you care so much? You guys didn’t even kiss. What about the other girls you’re dealing with? What makes this one so special?
/r/seduction17/05/24 07:30 AM
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There are many girls who want you, so don’t waste your time on those who are not interested in you.
/r/seduction17/05/24 07:26 AM
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The question is, what is the girl doing?
/r/seduction17/05/24 06:34 AM
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That’s not true. The fact that she wants attention, free food, and drinks doesn’t mean she likes him. She doesn’t want him.
/r/seduction16/05/24 09:07 PM
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No, you don’t get it. You can’t pull it off safely. You don’t have enough experience with women. At this stage, she’s not seriously interested in you. She is enjoying the attention but she doesn’t want you. Let her go. Meet other women.
/r/seduction16/05/24 09:06 PM
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How do they do it in a school setting? Listen, if you could pull it off safely, you wouldn't be asking this question. Let this woman go or you'll get yourself into trouble. Then, go out, start meeting new women every week, until it becomes second nature. At that stage you'll know what to do. And you won't have to ask these questions.
/r/seduction16/05/24 08:18 PM
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Coming from a woman What has that got to do with anything? OP wants a girl to be sexually attracted to him, not to think he is cool. In any case, he needs to forget about her since she is wasting his time.
/r/seduction16/05/24 07:38 PM
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How do I put a girl in friendzone that is into me but Im not attracted to? What is the girl doing that you have to reject her?
/r/seduction16/05/24 07:26 PM
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Friend zoned isn't a bad proposition if she thinks you are a top guy By defition, friend zone means she thinks he's a bottom guy.
/r/seduction16/05/24 07:18 PM
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You got a second date its clearly going well. Since when does a second date mean it's clearly going well?
/r/seduction16/05/24 07:16 PM
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How does the second one convey that I need serious help? You need serious help regardless. The fact that you got yourself into this situations shows your lack of self-awareness and a whole lot of other issue. Specfically about what you're asking, if you get close to someone because of a girl who is abusing you, you need help. If you hate that persona and you made an effort to be friends, you're not in your right mind. Get help. Or this will end badly for you. The next step will be accusations to…
/r/seduction16/05/24 07:14 PM
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we share a unique hobby, how not to get friendzoned? You're already friendzoned. Your thinking process friendzoned you even before the girl came into your life. Let her go. Start meeting new women.
/r/seduction16/05/24 07:11 PM
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If she comes back, that means you have more leverage than you did Incorrect. If she comes back it means OP took her back. Which shows her how weak he is and she'll hurt him even harder.
/r/seduction16/05/24 07:10 PM
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*waste
/r/seduction16/05/24 07:09 PM
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Gtfo away she's for the streets. No, thank you. The streets don't want her either.
/r/seduction16/05/24 07:07 PM
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When I showed signs of doubt, she often cut her arms to show her pain She needs psychiatric help. You need therapy. He now feels bad for me.(I still hate him) On second thought, you need to get serious help. Please speak to your doctor about this experience. Let them refer you to somebody. No one ever loved me so much that she could harm herself for me. You are correct. Noone ever did. That includes her. This is not love. What should I do? You need to realize that you're in an abusive relationsh…
/r/seduction16/05/24 07:06 PM
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Therapy might be the right step here. You will get rejected by a lot of women if you're bold. You'll also get more women by being bold. It's the Ying and the Yang. You need both.
/r/seduction16/05/24 05:11 PM
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Well, all that you’ve said still won’t make her want you. She’s not interested, and that’s that. Leave her alone. How is that void advice?
/r/seduction16/05/24 03:49 PM
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There should be mod bot that pastes this answer on 99% posts on here.
/r/seduction16/05/24 02:02 PM
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Come on. Surely, you respect yourself. Let it go.
/r/seduction16/05/24 02:01 PM
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Now, yes. You should have arranged for a date. She still would have said no but you wouldn’t have wasted your time. She wasn’t feeling your pic and your bio. To her, you were just a random match. How do you know if they are using you for attention? When they’re not following your lead. Remember, most women won’t want you no matter what you do. You have to weed them out quickly. Guys tend to waste time hoping that one day things will change with a girl. That’s why they struggle or end up in miser…
/r/seduction16/05/24 12:45 AM
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we did chat for 3-4 hrs That's how you messed up. She just used you for attention. She did say she liked me and is open to a casual relationship with me. She lied. Or am I boring her and she decided to ignore me? It's not that you're boring. It's more that she was never interested you. You entertained her. Now someone else is entertaining her. Unmatch. Focus on getting girls who actually want you.
/r/seduction16/05/24 12:18 AM
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glow up What's that? On second thought, no, don't tell me.
/r/seduction16/05/24 12:16 AM
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You already messed up. She knows you are interested in her. She knows you are scared to make a move. She doesn't want you.
/r/seduction16/05/24 12:15 AM
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So should I text her ? No. Even the fact that you're thinking of texting shows you should let it go. Why? Because if you knew what you were doing you'd have approached her in person a long time ago. I really liker her. No you don't. You like what you think you are seeing. If you like her so much, why didn't you make a move two months ago? In any case, I'm sure there's a law against you using an employees number for personal reasons. That's to say the least. Let it go. Learn how to attract women.…
/r/seduction16/05/24 12:14 AM
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Im not needy with her Everything you have described is needy. This is a woman you have not even kissed and you're idealizing her. What about the other girls you are seeing?
/r/seduction15/05/24 11:34 PM
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It's none of his business who that male friend is.
/r/seduction15/05/24 11:30 PM
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Am I allredy friendzoned? Yes.
/r/seduction15/05/24 11:30 PM
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How can I be more prepared for a future opportunity? Look. Forget about what happened. It's past now. Next time, don't wait for shopkeepers or for eye contact. Just walk up and say hello. No matter what happens, you'd have taken the first step. Also, going out solo is usually the best way any way. Well done.
/r/seduction15/05/24 10:43 PM
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Clearly, the same strategy that works for one nights stands doesn’t work for serious relationships No, clearly you just made life hard for yourself. You could have gotten those girls without the nonsense tactics. You just didn't have the true confidence to do it. So the tricks were a placebo. Also, I think you're exaggerating here. That’s when I realized that I find much more happiness and meaning in real relationships. What relationships? This is still your imagination. You can find a relations…
/r/seduction15/05/24 10:22 PM
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When I do muster up the courage I end up fumbling the convo. Just keep meeting more women. The more women you meet, and the more you're determined to stay in the game, the faster things will change. You just need to do it more. So I’ve decided to go to Kingston, Ontario (if anyone is down) and try getting 75 rejections from woman I am attracted to. My goal next week is to start calibrating but for now build the muscle to handle rejections. That's not a good idea. Instead, set a goal to meet 75 w…
/r/seduction15/05/24 09:08 PM
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You can learn. DM me if you want to talk. But, you have to become very good at a few things. The first is, how you deal with yourself. You have to know how to make yourself a priority. For example, a girl wants to go on a date. But you have gym. You have to develop the strength to lose the girl if she won’t schedule for another time. Second, you have to make moves. Again, it comes down to what you want. If you only want sex, you have to be clear to yourself first. And comfortable with it. Then, …
/r/seduction15/05/24 03:26 PM
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Most women won’t want you. That’s part of the game. The difference between a player and a regular guy is that a player won’t waste his time. You say “Hi.” She scowls and says, “I have a boyfriend.” By the time she blinks, you have moved on with your life. You’re already talking to another woman, looking at a book that interests you, or just enjoying the moment. A regular guys either tries what he thinks is ‘game’. Or he starts thinking about it. Two weeks later, he is dissecting the situation, t…
/r/seduction15/05/24 03:16 PM
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Good advice. I hope OP doesn’t fall in to the pick-up nonsense that’s so prevalent.
/r/seduction15/05/24 03:10 PM
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There’s nothing at all missing in your personality. You think there is, therefore you try to act in ways that are not yourself. In addition, you are scared of women, when it comes to being sexual. For this reason, you haven’t developed that side of yourself. And you haven’t had much experience. Now, this is a common problem. That’s one of the reasons a sub like this exists. Most guys are looking for some kind of trick and tactics to attract women. They ask different question, but essentially the…
/r/seduction15/05/24 03:09 PM
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I was gonna comment, but you have said all that needs to be said.
/r/seduction15/05/24 10:33 AM
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In my experience, you either take a deep dive and start going out to attract women or get help. DM if you wish to talk.
/r/seduction15/05/24 09:57 AM
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The question is, are you willing to put in the work? Also, since you don’t have time to waste, ignore all the tricks and tactics. Get clear on what you want. Sure, have a short conversation. But most of the time, 2 minutes is plenty before making it clear to her what you want. You will get rejected often, accept it, move on to the next one. You stay consistent with this way of doing things, you’ll get really good, very fast. Now, guys who don’t have enough maturity, self-confidence, and experien…
/r/seduction14/05/24 11:10 PM
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Experts what are your best tips and tricks My best tip is, admit you're scared of women. Then deal with it instead of looking for tips and tricks.
/r/seduction14/05/24 10:10 PM
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Do you think this could work out or has anyone done it like this? Don't do it. I like to drink but I approach women with and without drinking. But when I started out I never drank. It will cloud your judgement and mess up your style. You'll just appear way less attractive because of your behavior. Start small if you're scared. But start.
/r/seduction14/05/24 08:45 PM
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Just call her and tell her you want to see her on her knees I don't think OP is ready for that.
/r/seduction14/05/24 08:43 PM
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that is the exact reason why a yes would mean she is down. That is exactly the reason why guys hear, "Oh, I thought we were just friends." Or worse, get accused of stuff. You don't have to hide that you want sex. You just have to be willing to hear and accept when she doesn't want it with you.
/r/seduction14/05/24 08:42 PM
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I was to take every girl out I successfully approached I would be dead broke Not every girl you successfully approach will be interested in you. So you can't all of them out even if you want to. But your question implies you're timid in your approach. If you approached correctly, you'd know what you want to do before you even see the girl. You have to know what you're gonna do with her before you even leave your home. That's part of being good at approaching women. Still, I don't know where you'…
/r/seduction14/05/24 08:40 PM
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Go out into the real world.
/r/seduction14/05/24 04:04 PM
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Do you guys think this will affect my game ? If you only use social media, you're gonna have a lot of problems. Especially if it's a way to avoid going out. Go out in the real world. Meet women. Make moves.
/r/seduction14/05/24 04:03 PM
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With the full picture in mind you can judge With the full picture in mind, remember she will have sex with the man she wants in 40 minutes or less. She can tell you don't have much experience with women. So she may play the good girl if she finds you useful. But she acts differently with me who know what they are doing. none of us are under any false pretenses now What do you mean by that? The first date in my last relationship i started by giving her a big bouquet of flowers. That's why your re…
/r/seduction14/05/24 03:19 PM
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Queen of England on a date It still wouldn't make a difference.
/r/seduction14/05/24 02:27 PM
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Any comments are appreciated I will tell you the truth. You will most likely reject it. But, one day, you'll at least have a reference point. We are both very busy so we agreed to a 40 min up to an hour This is your first mistake. You created an excuse not to make a real move. You were not confident to do anything else. Or she didn't want to do anything else and you accepted her lead. But it's not because you're very busy. So far my plan is to pick her up, go to a drive through cafe for some cof…
/r/seduction14/05/24 02:25 PM
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I find it a lot easier this way and so far it works As long as you understand that it only works on you because you are scared to kiss her. It gives you a little confidence boost. Or rather, she realizes you are scared but still wants to kiss you so she goes along. There is something else you have to keep in mind. If you end up dating any girl using this kind of routine, she'll either ghost you quick, or you'll have trouble down the line.
/r/seduction14/05/24 01:09 PM
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Since when is cold approach not seduction? Since when does it matter? Oh, wait - are we going to argue over labels now? As if there aren't enough excuses to actually approach women. You see a woman you want. You make a move. You do what you gotta do. What that's called doesn't matter. Just go for what you want.
/r/seduction14/05/24 12:40 PM
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I play it cool Why do you have to play it cool? Just focus on yourself and what you're doing. feel comfortable enough to let my guard down. Why is your guard up? You think women don't notice it from the beginning? I think you're missing what's happening. The women lose interest early on. But, they use for attention, dates, and whatever else you give them. When you show interest, they bounce because now you're asking for something back. act like I don’t care about them They know you're acting. Do…
/r/seduction14/05/24 10:28 AM
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You have an amazing combination of being extremely wrong but extremely sure you're correct. I'm not suprised you're getting downvotes. It's almost as if the people on this sub fight hard to stay in the wrong mindset. The more a comment doesn't work in real life, the more it gets upvoted. But, it's entertaining in little bits. Still, you are right on this one.
/r/seduction14/05/24 10:25 AM
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If these women recoil from your interest, it's because they weren't that interested in the first place. This is the best answer so far. All the other advice is like exchanging tips on how to fool a woman into thinking you don't want her. Strange.
/r/seduction14/05/24 10:23 AM
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I was able to salvage it Whad did you salvage?
/r/seduction14/05/24 10:20 AM
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Do I need to keep playing it cool No. You keep trying it cool. That's why it's not working. There is no technique that can help you. You have to put in work so you can let go of your neediness. You'll need some kind of therapy for that to happen. You deal with that, you won't worry about any of the things you've mentioned. Think about it this way. There is no technique that you can learn that will help you knock out Tyson Fury with one punch, in a real fight, if you are half his weight. If you w…
/r/seduction14/05/24 10:19 AM
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It doesn't matter. A man who values himself will drop a woman if she tries to question him. It's either you want him or you don't. A woman will say, I don't date over 30. But then, her favourite movie star walks in. All of a sudden, the situation changes. So in reality, it depends on how much a woman wants the man. As I said earlier, if she really wants him, she won't care. If he's just another candidate to be in her life, then she might care a lot. But confident men do not deal with women who d…
/r/seduction13/05/24 06:47 PM
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When someone starts asking these questions that’s a sign she’s not that much into you. When a girl wants you she’s wants you.
/r/seduction13/05/24 09:51 AM
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You walk up to the girl you want.
/r/seduction12/05/24 10:20 AM
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10-15 minutes That's a long time when want it now.
/r/seduction11/05/24 12:24 PM
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So is sealing the deal inside a venue a thing or just imagination? I've done it a couple of times, one was a girl from work. I know girls who have done it. I have seen people go into the bathroom to do it and get kicked out. But it's not my preference. I don't even like to piss in public toilets.
/r/seduction11/05/24 12:22 PM
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It seems that anytime I open up to a woman I am taking away my mystery and they start to lose interest. What mystery? Also, why are you opening up to them? How many women are we talking here? after we get to the point in the relationship where things get deeper and emotions/feelings start to show. What point? Do you not have emotions and feelings all the time? the more interest I show the less they do and vice versa. No. You are probably just needy. What you are describing is the thinking proces…
/r/seduction11/05/24 12:10 PM
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Man: “You could say it nicer!” He should have kept walking. The moment you realize a woman is not interested in you, she disappears from your reality. You keep it moving. What she does is not of your business.
/r/seduction11/05/24 11:08 AM
1

Let it go.
/r/seduction10/05/24 09:29 PM
2

Exactly what is says. You can't be the nice friendly guy that everyone likes and get the girls. You have to choose. If you are not willing to lose everyone in your social circle, this game is not for you.
/r/seduction10/05/24 04:47 PM
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Uh, yeah, I thought this was basically all it takes. Then carry on. would rather not get a reputation as some pussy hound. What reputation? Also, I don't how you intepreted my words to mean this. But at least, it's clear why women don't take you seriously. Carry on. More for the few of us.
/r/seduction10/05/24 04:23 PM
1

How many?
/r/seduction10/05/24 04:01 PM
1

we have grown pretty close No. You haven't grown close. You're nice, and reliable, and she knows you won't have the confidence to touch her or make a serious move. So she can she can string you along for a long time. And you love the idea that you get to spend so much time with her. I really enjoy our friendship That's not what friendship is. i am so sexually attracted to her Yes, she is very much aware of that. I dont want these feelings to disturb our relationship now. Oh good. She doesn't eit…
/r/seduction10/05/24 04:01 PM
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The ones up your arse. Why are you thinking about my arse?
/r/seduction10/05/24 03:15 PM
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Where is the hostility? You asked a question, I told you the truth. You're the one turning on me. Here's the thing. I've told you the truth. You can go round the Earth, stomp your feet, or try to attack me. It won't change the truth. I did not create this truth. It's reality. You can accept it or not.
/r/seduction10/05/24 03:11 PM
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I do basically all of what was recommended here already. No, you don't. If you did, you wouldn't be here asking about this. You'd be dealing with a girl or doing something more important. if there were any tools or knowledge I might be missing that you guys usually employ. Move on. That's what you are missing. if I were to call her out, No, don't do that. Move on with your life. There are millions of women who want to meet you if you only stop acting so desperate. What do you think about this, w…
/r/seduction10/05/24 03:04 PM
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What foot? What door?
/r/seduction10/05/24 02:58 PM
1

Sure, in pickup books, they do. I'm talking about reality.
/r/seduction10/05/24 02:50 PM
2

What's your stance on text game? I don't know what that is. All I know is, chit-chatting by text is a waste of time. By the time you get the number, the girl should already be interested in what you want to do with her. So you take the number, or give her yours, telling her what will happen next. So your texts will just be logistics for that thing.
/r/seduction10/05/24 02:32 PM
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How much energy do you lose by typing out a few words? It's not just the typing but also the fact that you're even consider it. Be the time you've typed and sent that message you're already a few seconds behind on your life's agenda. She doesn't want you. Move on.
/r/seduction10/05/24 02:30 PM
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As long as you understand the potential for a physical confrontation from which you can't back out.
/r/seduction10/05/24 02:23 PM
0

The problem with your answer is that you're giving her more energy than she deserves.
/r/seduction10/05/24 02:05 PM
1

Or would you just ghost? It's not ghosting if she doesn't care.
/r/seduction10/05/24 02:02 PM
1

It just doesn't work. You just need to find a woman who is open to talk from the start. This is the correct answer.
/r/seduction10/05/24 02:01 PM
2

Yeah. let's see the messages.
/r/seduction10/05/24 02:00 PM
2

Doing too much how? It means you're sending texts that require more than a few seconds to read and/or respond.
/r/seduction10/05/24 01:58 PM
1

Pause.
/r/seduction10/05/24 01:32 PM
3

Usually I text them a day or two after meeting with a cute reminder who I am Before this moment, you were just losing. At this point, it's game over. and I either ask a follow up question about something referencing how we met, or I ask them out. Only one of these is something you should do. However, you should do it before you get the number. First off, practically no woman texts back quickly it seems, The point above where I say it's game over is the reason. Now, them texting back is still not…
/r/seduction10/05/24 01:24 PM
3

I get this heavy feeling in chest and it makes me slighty nervous. Write down all the thoughts and ideas that come with that feeling. You will realize that you believe something that's not true. That's where the anxiety is from. One of the secrets to the game is unlearning the programming you've lived with. You feel the anxiety because you're defying that programming. In fact, that's part of the programming - to create a self-policing mindset that stops you from being who you are. You don't make…
/r/seduction10/05/24 01:14 PM
11

When you realise you can't control interactions with another autonomous entity. Just your part. If. Only. The. Guys. In. This. Sub. Understood. This. One. Thing. Today, I realized on a deeper level why it's almost impossible to give guys good advice so they apply it. The whole notion of seduction in most male minds is making a girl want them regardless of the girls desires, wills, and wants. For example: she ghosted me, how do I get her to text me back? I have improved my looks, made money, and …
/r/seduction10/05/24 01:11 PM
1

I’m confused. Do you know what you want? And are you an adult?
/r/seduction10/05/24 10:48 AM
1

Who cares? Why are you having this kind of discussion?
/r/seduction10/05/24 09:32 AM
2

The fact that you’re getting one worded answers means you’re doing too much.
/r/seduction10/05/24 09:32 AM
8

This is the correct answer.
/r/seduction10/05/24 09:30 AM
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All of them want validation and attention. That’s why you have to quickly figure out if she’s into you or not. But most guys don’t want to accept this so they keep asking questions in situations where they need to move on. There’s no magic secret. Everyone gets rejected. Everyone. Drake, Tom Brady, and RuPaul all get rejected. The whole seduction community is based on a false premise. Guys think there’s a way that you can learn some tactics and techniques to make women want you. Your favourite d…
/r/seduction10/05/24 09:28 AM
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It’s not about looks. Women look primarily at your behaviour and how you carry yourself than looks. When you understand how game works you stop worrying about looks.
/r/seduction10/05/24 09:22 AM
2

You give them attention. You pay for dates. You have long conversations and texts about nothing. Then they go sleep with a guy who does none of that for them. Then they come to you when they someone to make them feel better while they wait for the guy they want to be done with other girls. There’s more but all you need to do is to look at your existing relationships with women to see how you are being used.
/r/seduction10/05/24 08:46 AM
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What a lot of men don’t want to accept is that dating is competitive. I don't have any competition, so no, I don't accept it. Your other points are at best misleading. You are focusing on externals that have little meaning to women. And most of it is just not true. By all means do them for yourself. Just don't expect that women will care - except when they want to use you. Now, I do understand that for absolute beginners this is better than nothing. But you won't become the guy women lust after …
/r/seduction09/05/24 06:40 PM
4

How to respond to a girl who gave me this answer? You don't respond. I know if I respond with the right answer she will come to my place, Ah, if you could only find the magic words. The times she's spent with you, who you are, what you do with her didn't do the trick. But the right combinations of sylables will. Right? because she is open minded girl and kind of DTF type of girl. Everyone is open-minded when they want someone. When they don't, the mind closes. So what are you suggesting to answe…
/r/seduction09/05/24 06:32 PM
0

All that you’ve said about your travels etc is irrelevant to attracting women. Nobody cares. Yes, they have a boyfriend, let’s call him the official boyfriend. Do you believe that’s the only man they deal with?
/r/seduction09/05/24 03:06 PM
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This is a fantasy in your mind. Sure, a woman can be with you because she is in need. If you’re comfortable spending time with someone who doesn’t want you and is using you for money, that’s weak. As far as younger women are concerned, it’s still a fantasy. The average 21 year old woman has more sexual and relationship experience than the average 42 year old male. So you don’t have any advantage just because you’re older. The power dynamics will emerge naturally when a woman respects you and is …
/r/seduction09/05/24 01:27 PM
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There’s no methodology. She’s either with it, she lets you go, or you get drama.
/r/seduction09/05/24 12:53 PM
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It means she is not interested in you. Virtually every question on this sub is from guys talking about a girl who doesn’t want them. Don’t be part of that crowd. Surely, you know women who want you. Call up one of them instead of wasting your time with this one.
/r/seduction09/05/24 02:11 AM
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This is my last comment on this post. You need to speak to your parents. Frankly someone responsible needs who is close to you needs to advice you. And please let this girl go for your own sake.
/r/seduction09/05/24 01:51 AM
1

Nope. He’s alright. And no, I won’t reveal my pseudonym.
/r/seduction09/05/24 01:43 AM
1

You don’t need to project nothing. You let her know what you want from her. Most will say no. Many will say yes. Still, you won’t waste your precious time and energy on those who don’t want you. But you can’t be scared of hearing no.
/r/seduction09/05/24 01:39 AM
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That’s because you don’t understand the game. You think these guys can do something you can’t. But that’s not true. Real game is not spectacular. For outsiders it’s boring. When a top player makes a move and you’re watching, you’ll think he’s talking to a girl he’s known for years and it’s just another conversation. There’s nothing special about it like you see in movies and as sold by most coaches. And it happens fast. Minutes. Sure sometimes you may hang out for half an hour, or 45 minutes if …
/r/seduction09/05/24 01:37 AM
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You were getting dates but no sex because of lack of confidence. Confident men don’t do push-pull and other nonsense. You just make your moves. You’re still compensating for lack of confidence. Drop the systems and learn how to be.
/r/seduction09/05/24 01:26 AM
1

Come on. This is not fair. You’re messing this guy’s mind, just like the girl is. It’s not a test. There’s no pre selection or anything of that sort. She is busy with some other guy. When that guy dumps her or is busy with other girls, yeah she may come back for some attention. But OP believes you and will think she’s coming back because the tactic is working. Don’t do this to him.
/r/seduction09/05/24 01:15 AM
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It’s not a test.
/r/seduction09/05/24 01:12 AM
1

Inaccurate. No contact for life.
/r/seduction09/05/24 01:09 AM
1

Confidence comes with experience. I have to coment on this for the sake of those who really want a better life. You will not wake up in the morning and say, "Wow, I'm confident!" no way! This is correct. That's why I said develop. But it is a painful process, to some degree. Just like when you choose to develop muscles, you will feel some pain. Or if you're trying to lose weight, there is some pain and hardship involved. The problem with the tricks and fake tactics is that they promise results w…
/r/seduction08/05/24 11:42 PM
1

As for "tricks", you will ALWAYS use tricks to get a girl you barely know to a hotel or to your place. Speak for yourself. The more I read stuff on this forum the more I realize how few guys really get it. No wonder women are frustrated. the guys who invented these concepts were more experienced than me or you. I know some of those guys and I stopped coaching partly because I didn't want to be connected to the B.S. I know you have a low standard for yourself so it's acceptable to you I get that.…
/r/seduction08/05/24 11:21 PM
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Yeah, it's all B.S. for guys who don't want to develop their confidence and prefer to rely on hope, tricks, and pretending to attract women.
/r/seduction08/05/24 10:45 PM
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So itd be nice to actually here how this is a recipe of ghosting? Because you're just giving her attention and not making moves. You think you're the only guy she's dealing with? Girls put guys in different categories. You're one of the nice guys who make her feel good. But she really wants the bad boys even though they don't treat like you do. Still, you're there to provide comfort while she gets sex and the feeling of being a woman from the other guys. As far as im aware, from talking to frien…
/r/seduction08/05/24 10:14 PM
8

Have you had sex with this girl yet? Come on. You know the answer.
/r/seduction08/05/24 09:47 PM
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She said she wanted to take it slow, That's what girls say to guys they don't really want to sleep with or get involved with romantically. It's a way to keep you around why they explore other options. Yeah, you might get a chance but you're not the first in line. You know this.
/r/seduction08/05/24 09:47 PM
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Basically, this girl im texting. 35+ days, been on 3 or 4 dates. That's a recipe for ghosting. Knowing this is how girls distance themselves i want to know how to approach the situation. She's clearly not interested. What are you asking? How to wear hear down? Or get her to block you? Why are you not moving on to find someone who wants you?
/r/seduction08/05/24 09:45 PM
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