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Most people play life defensively. They're trying to avoid losses and pain. And they're trying to pump their own ego my favorably comparing themselves to other people. These two factors explain why the average man has such a poor reaction to the concept of game. There's zero benefit to peeling back the curtain for normies.
/r/seduction25/01/26 12:49 PM
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This is solid advice for any time you're offering an opinion on anything. The best response is always, "I tried X, here's what happened..." Anything else is useless and often driven by an egoic need to feel like one's opinion is important. I used to run a mastermind, and we made that a rule. You could not give advice that was just an opinion. It had to be advice that was prefaced on an experience you had that was related to a question someone else asked. This cut down on so much bullshit.
/r/seduction24/01/26 08:11 PM
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You asked if it was a total waste of time posting all of that. I told you it was. I'm not going to validate your weird insistence for attention any longer.
/r/seduction24/01/26 08:08 PM
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There's actually a lot of utility and reflecting on your mistakes. But this isn't what you're doing... A mistake is whenever you take action and in doing so you don't achieve the result that you want, especially in cases where a slightly different method or technique would have achieved the desired result. You haven't even made a mistake. You just made excuses. That's fine. Everybody makes excuses. But me telling you that nobody gives a fuck about your excuses isn't simply my opinion. It's actua…
/r/seduction24/01/26 07:48 PM
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Complete waste of time. Absolutely nobody wants to hear about your excuses.
/r/seduction24/01/26 07:26 PM
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For real. This whole thread really illustrates why a small minority of men get the majority of women. So many of the people in this thread are losers who have given up on even trying. Thank God though. Makes my life easier.
/r/seduction24/01/26 04:46 AM
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You sound like such an incredibly weak wormy little man. 'oh no some girl I don't even know doesn't like me wah wah wah' That's what you sound like. And you sound like that because you pedestalize women, while also having very little conception of their internal emotional landscape. Whenever I approach a woman, I don't know if I like her or not. I don't even know if I've chosen her. But I'm certainly not going to be upset and crying online because some girl didn't want to talk to me. (You sound …
/r/seduction24/01/26 04:44 AM
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'Why do I have to move my body at all. The universe should magically shove food in my mouth, change my clothes, and remove my filth.' Gen Z is so cooked. Listless people with zero vital spirit.
/r/seduction23/01/26 06:03 PM
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letting women post here is a mistake
/r/seduction23/01/26 05:04 PM
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1) Turn your frustration and anger into a commitment to improve and change your life. 2) Stop using negative language to describe yourself, replace it with growth oriented phrases ("I am" > "I'm becoming") 3) If you have an accent, start working to improve it. While you're doing that, develop better vocal tonality and cadence (i.e., speak slower and deeper). 4) Work on developing better microbehaviors (i.e., eye contact, posture) 5) Desensitize yourself to talking to strangers, and work up to co…
/r/seduction23/01/26 02:25 AM
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Four points 1 - Think about it for a second. If someone came up to you and said hello and then started asking you all sorts of personal questions, would you feel comfortable in that situation? Probably not. You'd probably be thinking to yourself: what does this person want, and why don't they just come out and say it? 2 - I'd suggest something closer to the following model: Open, Tease/Vibe, Comfort, Rewarding Investment, Escalating. 3 - Attraction isn't built through physical escalation. It's b…
/r/seduction22/01/26 06:20 PM
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You need to have some degree of Attraction before you build Comfort. If you don't, you get the exact result that you're getting right now.
/r/seduction22/01/26 05:53 PM
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Okay. You can't be helped. Please stop posting here so that people who can be helped aren't infected by your terrible mentality.
/r/seduction22/01/26 05:03 PM
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Everybody has access to exact same resources. If you are not able to use the information that's available to you in order to improve your life, then I'm not sure what to say.
/r/seduction22/01/26 04:53 PM
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Start journaling or writing field reports after every time you go out. Try to identify what you did well, what you did poorly, and what you should work on next time. Then implement that.
/r/seduction22/01/26 01:11 PM
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That falls into the 'Beliefs and Narratives' part of inner game.
/r/seduction22/01/26 07:41 AM
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Nice. Good to hear. Mind if I send you a DM with a couple of questions.
/r/seduction20/01/26 07:10 AM
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I normally like your comments, but this one seems off. There's should be a basic structure from hello to sex. You might deviate from it - but the fundamental process should be teachable. London Daygame Model, though DEEPLY flawed, is a good place to start. Secondly, I'd advise that guys primarily focus on sub-communication. How you say something will always be more important than what you say, especially on the open. "There is a myth that seduction skills are social skills, but the reality is th…
/r/seduction19/01/26 05:10 PM
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I'm getting the same feeling
/r/seduction19/01/26 04:33 PM
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makes sense
/r/seduction19/01/26 04:33 PM
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I hadn't considered that, but it makes sense
/r/seduction19/01/26 04:33 PM
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You have literal brainworms.
/r/seduction19/01/26 04:32 PM
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Poker is a skills game, not a numbers game. Roulette is a numbers game. I don't think you understand the term 'numbers game,' which is betting on a random and unpredictable occurrence. You seem to believe that skills game means you can control the outcome rather than analyze and act based on probabilities (while improving your discernment). People who on average lose at poker certainly believe it's just a numbers game though.
/r/seduction19/01/26 07:46 AM
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Even though I agree, that was completely off topic.... Whenever you meet a girl while you're traveling, do you normally exchange Instagram or do you go with a locally popular messaging app? My suggestion is to go with a messaging app or number.. This is just based on what I've experienced (also living abroad for over 10 years). But I'm interested to hear if anybody has found that Instagram is still highly effective for turning leads into dates.
/r/seduction19/01/26 06:11 AM
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You probably come off as try-hard -- because you are. I'd like to find someone who likes me for who I am. ngmi
/r/seduction19/01/26 01:52 AM
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This explains why so many women have children with men who leave them. /s Seriously OP. I don't think the pedestal you've created could get much higher.
/r/seduction19/01/26 01:50 AM
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You are a man and 90% of your attraction to a woman is based on looks. For women, >50% of attraction is based on assumed status, pre-selection, and displayed behaviors.
/r/seduction19/01/26 01:43 AM
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Girls aren't binary in terms of their attraction. Sure, some girls simply aren't attracted to you. But not every girl is a hard yes or a hard no. There are a lot of maybe girls.
/r/seduction18/01/26 05:51 PM
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I'm sorry, but that's retarded. It's like saying shooting a basketball is just a number game. 'After all, Kobe misses shots too.' But with training, you get the skills to make more of them go in, you gain an intuitive sense of when to shoot and when not to shoot. Game is a skills game, similar to poker. People who compulsively lose at poker like to tell themselves is just a numbers game. People who win at poker know there are skills and levels involved. Even if I'm wrong. Which mindset is going …
/r/seduction18/01/26 04:11 PM
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"dating is a numbers game" That's something you say to people who aren't taking action to encourage them to take action. After that, you should be focused on developing the actual skills and attributes that increase your probability of success.
/r/seduction18/01/26 10:34 AM
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These are the sort of posts that you read and think, "not everyone should be taught game."
/r/seduction17/01/26 05:58 PM
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Only guy person approaches a given set (never do a 2-man approach) If the other guy wants to join the set, he'll give proximity and wait for the lead man to wave him in and make the introduction. The man who opens the set owns the set. He gets to decide who his target if, if to stay, or if to bounce. Never disagree with your wing during a set. If he says strawberries are loaded with protein, you agree with conviction. Don't talk to much about game while in field. Offer feedback at the end of the…
/r/seduction17/01/26 05:50 PM
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What about girls who don't post stories? I'd say that's actually a majority of girls, even those under 25.
/r/seduction08/01/26 12:57 PM
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Bro. This sub is actually shit, and you're responsible for it as a mod -- not the odd spammer. Can't wait for the next dozen 'how do I talk to my crush' posts. /S
/r/seduction08/01/26 12:55 PM
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It's a very Third World-coded word
/r/seduction31/12/25 01:12 PM
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Yes, but be strategic about it
/r/seduction29/12/25 01:07 PM
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it’s sex but I’m not taking her to pound town. Again - my choice. "I suck at escalating and am lame in bed. Can anyone help me figure out while I got cheated on."
/r/seduction28/12/25 05:11 PM
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Your place
/r/seduction22/12/25 01:44 AM
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Please take the time to read things before you comment on them
/r/seduction20/12/25 01:10 PM
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Momentum is real. Just get back in the game, get through the awkwardness and suckiness. And you'll bounce back even better
/r/seduction18/12/25 12:48 PM
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15 years ago, it occurred to me to search through available resources rather than ask basic questions that have already been answered a million times. I'd understand if it was a niche question, i.e., 'which is a better opener while I'm in line at a Starbucks, functional or direct?' But yeah, his question is a bit like hearing a 40 year old fat person ask, 'how do I get healthy.' If they can't find that information on their own in 2025, there's really no point in trying to help them. This sub has…
/r/seduction18/12/25 10:05 AM
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If you can't take 2 minutes to search through the 15 years of content on the sub in order to answer this basic ass question, then there's no hope for you. Sorry, but it's true
/r/seduction18/12/25 06:32 AM
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Just relating my experience living in multiple countries. No need to be upset just because it's different from your experience. Also I didn't say anything about conservative or liberal people. Said conservative or liberal cultures. Perhaps if you weren't so emotional you would have caught that nuance and distinction.
/r/seduction17/12/25 12:48 PM
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Having lived in conservative countries and liberal countries, I firmly believe that people in conservative countries are generally more open to new experience while people in liberal countries shield their introversion and generalize anxiety behind vapid PC opinions. You see this a lot in modern society. The women who flaunt their bodies are almost asexual. Meanwhile, the mousy girl is most likely extremely horney.
/r/seduction17/12/25 06:22 AM
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Instead of crying and complaining, figure out how to ensure this doesn't happen in the future. Nothing is unfair or unjust. People get exactly what they tolerate.
/r/seduction16/12/25 05:37 PM
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resentment and jealousy
/r/seduction15/12/25 05:52 PM
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I DMd you
/r/seduction14/12/25 09:30 AM
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I dm'd you
/r/seduction14/12/25 09:30 AM
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How do you even find this sub? Honest question. This is a place to discuss how to get women, in the plural. This isn't a place for lonely men to beg for attention.
/r/seduction13/12/25 12:01 PM
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Loyal is when you have options and don't act on them.
/r/seduction13/12/25 11:56 AM
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People here are so cynical about everything. No wonder their dating lives suck. 'Omg, it's not a wall of text filled with run on sentences about how one girl looked at them and they don't know what to do. It must be spam.'
/r/seduction12/12/25 07:13 AM
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This attitude is why millennials do so well with zoomer girls. You guys are all massive wimps lol
/r/seduction10/12/25 04:44 AM
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Perhaps you could look at one of the other dozen 'how do I talk to this one girl' questions that people have posted in the last 3 days?
/r/seduction10/12/25 04:44 AM
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This sub is filled with the most autistic people
/r/seduction09/12/25 04:08 PM
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Dealing drugs was actually my first thought.
/r/seduction09/12/25 03:38 PM
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What type of women. Until you answer that, the question is too vague.
/r/seduction09/12/25 03:38 PM
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"Hey, I know I act like your gay best friend, but I'm actually straight." You don't "bring up" anything. You just stop acting like the gay best friend.
/r/seduction09/12/25 03:36 PM
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Only posts that are about not getting laid aren't written by chatgpt
/r/seduction09/12/25 03:33 PM
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Exactly. They'd rather read a 13th daily, 'guys how do I talk to the girl who looked at me once' post since it excuses their own crippling chodiness.
/r/seduction09/12/25 01:04 PM
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who cares dork
/r/seduction09/12/25 11:38 AM
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Do you think she's putting this much energy into analyzing the interaction and messaging between the two of you? Probably not. This alone should clue you in that you're far too invested
/r/seduction09/12/25 08:13 AM
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Zip code will matter a lot. Basically you need a place with a decent amount of foot traffic and volume of attractive girls, where you can also plausibly be there for a reason that's not just hitting on women. Pedestrian malls, art museums, Whole Foods, even malls though they're not my favorite. What type of girls are you going after? That's a good question to answer, then you can figure out where they are.
/r/seduction07/12/25 07:31 AM
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Let's do it. DM me
/r/seduction07/12/25 07:30 AM
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This post is a great illustration of why you need to work on social skills first, and then get obsessed with the gym, looksmaxxing, etc
/r/seduction07/12/25 07:27 AM
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Just keep pushing through. You'll start to see little breaks where results get a little bit closer each time. This is how you know you are close to a leap and improvement.
/r/seduction06/12/25 11:11 PM
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Flip the frame to make it appear as if they are trying hard to impress other people while you don't care either way.
/r/seduction06/12/25 09:48 AM
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No, men don't care about that at all. Evolutionarily, women bear a high cost for childbirth. She has to select for the best possible mate. Preselection and status are great subconscious heuristics for that. Men can potentially have 1000s of children at 0 cost. Hence, they aren't as concerned about a woman's status or preselection - and have a great desire for novelty and multiple partners with zero attachment. If anything, the biggest threat for men comes in the form of the risk of unknowingly r…
/r/seduction05/12/25 06:17 PM
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A woman will forgive you for trying to sleep with her. She'll never forgive you for not trying to sleep with her.
/r/seduction04/12/25 05:49 PM
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Great post, very practical. Crazy that this doesn't have more upvotes. Guys on this sub are lost lol
/r/seduction04/12/25 04:50 PM
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Didn't read your entire wall of text, but if you're posting about it, you probably didn't try to get laid. That was your problem.
/r/seduction04/12/25 04:48 PM
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This is a problem of scarcity. There is absolutely nothing special about this girl. You wouldn't give her a second thought if you had three other hotter girls bouncing on your dick regularly. Stop simping over this girl you've never met
/r/seduction04/12/25 10:42 AM
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Virgins should listen rather than speak. Simply put, you're not qualified to offer a useful opinion on the topic of seduction. It's like a homeless person offering financial management advice.
/r/seduction03/12/25 05:59 AM
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People will ask the most vague questions without providing any background information, and somehow expect to get a good answer.
/r/seduction02/12/25 05:51 PM
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If you were good in bed, this wouldn't be a problem for you. That is the answer you're looking for. But is it the answer that you can accept?
/r/seduction02/12/25 06:55 AM
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Jesus this sub has gone downhill
/r/seduction02/12/25 01:26 AM
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Great points. There's a lot of truth in this comment. As there is in the OP.
/r/seduction28/11/25 12:50 AM
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Women also aren't attracted to emotional men who get triggered and then run to report thoughtcrimes to the boss.
/r/seduction27/11/25 07:44 AM
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Here's my two cents on this. If you have to 'bring up smashing,' then you lack nonverbal communication skills. Most women don't want to risk having an autistic child.
/r/seduction27/11/25 06:56 AM
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This depends on so many factors but is also off topic. Focus on how you can pick up women, not trying to read the tea leaves of if a woman might like you. That sort of passivity is anti-game. Make things happen. Don't wait for them to happen.
/r/seduction26/11/25 07:11 AM
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Fair enough. It would be better stated as, 'pursuing relationship goals.' Those goals could vary: building a harem, starting a family, banging Cathryn Lee, having rotations in multiple cities, etc. The important part is that other pillars are going to limit your results in relationships. Thus, in pursuing high level relationship goals, you're forced to level up in other areas of your life.
/r/seduction25/11/25 06:41 PM
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The past 24 hours of this sub: 'How to be funny?' 'How do I know if a girl likes me enough to sext?' ‘Why are you single?’ How do I get a date? How do I text girls? Why do I keep choking during approaches? (actually useful question since he’s taking action and has a detailed question) Gibberish about an ugly personality Actual decent question about dance floor game – no one responded Gibberish about a girl that a guy approached months ago but hasn’t worked up the courage to talk to since ‘Girl a…
/r/seduction25/11/25 06:36 PM
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Stop trying to 'force' anything. Instead, focus on being authentic, present, and aware of her emotional state.
/r/seduction25/11/25 05:39 PM
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Look up the benign violation theory
/r/seduction25/11/25 05:29 PM
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Not something I'd recommend until you're well into your 30s or 40s. But looks/status matter. This should be obvious:)
/r/seduction25/11/25 05:26 PM
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True - but sometimes it's just a exchange of fun.
/r/seduction24/11/25 03:14 PM
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Transactional relationships are prostitutes and women who are in it for material comfort. Games who smash a bunch of girls while promising 0 commitment are precisely the ones who get laid out of genuine desire.
/r/seduction24/11/25 03:14 PM
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This is the most Indian opinion imaginable
/r/seduction24/11/25 03:12 PM
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The short answer: it gets old banging the same girl.
/r/seduction24/11/25 03:12 PM
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This was a great example of why taking advice from women is always a bad idea. They'll simply say the most banal things that they wish Zak Efron (or whoever their fantasy guy is) would do with them. Has no applicability for normal guys. To answer the question, OP, you need to be willing to make them slightly uncomfortable. Some sort of escalation that you can see how into it they are. By 'into it,' I simply mean: do they allow it to happen. Probably the easiest way to escalate is, while sitting …
/r/seduction24/11/25 05:09 AM
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The good posts often get downvoted on this sub
/r/seduction22/11/25 05:05 PM
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Emotional slop is way worse than AI slop. This post is a perfect example. Wall of text where nothing of usefulness is said
/r/seduction22/11/25 05:02 PM
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Yeah, your whole life will improve when you leave your hometown. This should be self-evident. Location matters. I thought this would be obvious.
/r/seduction22/11/25 05:13 AM
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Why not? What could you have done differently?
/r/seduction22/11/25 02:48 AM
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🏅 here's your medal for being one of the good ones
/r/seduction21/11/25 06:46 AM
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Whiny personal attacks
/r/seduction21/11/25 06:42 AM
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This sort of performative morality is lame. And women generally see through the nice guy act.
/r/seduction21/11/25 06:41 AM
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Incel isn't a mindset. It's a condition or state of being. Can we leave the leftist ideology in other subs please.
/r/seduction21/11/25 06:12 AM
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You can bang in a car, on the grass, a friend's house, in a bathroom, etc.
/r/seduction20/11/25 04:31 AM
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Victim of feminism and modernity. It's basically turned you into a eunuch. Many such cases.
/r/seduction19/11/25 04:53 PM
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There's not a whole lot of details in that for me to give a great response. Generally speaking, if you're trying to escalate and it's not working, you don't want to keep trying to escalate the same way. This might sound really crude, but why do you need to kiss her. There isn't a rule that says you must kiss a girl before sex happens. There's also a short, recent article on my blog about escalation. Check it out.
/r/seduction18/11/25 05:41 PM
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Focus on improving the things you can work on. Specifically things like body language and subcommunication. You can make better eye contact and speak in a slower more masculine manner. You can also simply be more social. All of these will translate into better skills with women in the future.
/r/seduction18/11/25 05:23 PM
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Frame is simply the underlying understanding of the situation. Having a strong belief in yourself, your mission, your value of a man -- this all helps
/r/seduction18/11/25 05:01 PM
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That's a big one, indeed
/r/seduction18/11/25 05:01 PM
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Thanks man. Glad you didn't find it especially toxic lol
/r/seduction18/11/25 05:00 PM
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Exactly. Imagine trying to learn tennis from reading books, watching videos, and never actually playing. It simply wouldn't work. Learning = Action Accelerated Learning = Action + Qualified Feedback
/r/seduction18/11/25 04:59 PM
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Good stuff. Being crystal clear about what you actually want will save you time and frustration. But for guys who are young and inexperienced, it's also worth playing the field, experimenting, and learning about themselves through confronting challenges.
/r/seduction18/11/25 01:47 PM
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Learn the difference between what sounds good and what works
/r/seduction18/11/25 01:12 PM
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After she confesses her feelings. Never before
/r/seduction18/11/25 01:10 PM
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First - Direct approaching is autistic. Stop learning pick up from 30 second in field tik tok videos. Secondly - If you are approaching on a campus but don't go to that university, there is very little congruence. What you are doing is obvious and weird. You are an outsider who is entering a space where women are surrounded by peers, attempting to pick them up. Women are naturally worried about their social standing and are going to be hesitant in this situation. You are not going to find any DT…
/r/seduction18/11/25 05:22 AM
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Fair point. In my mind, I was talking about more the skill aspect of it than the competitive or zero some aspect of it. But thank you for raising that point. It definitely adds some depth to the discussion.
/r/seduction16/11/25 04:32 PM
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Imagine if this was any other activity. Take chess or tennis, for example. Who would improve faster and reach a higher level of skill? The person who said, 'oh I just lost because of unidentified reasons that were outside of my control.' Or the person who analyzed the losing match afterwards, tried to figure out what they could have done better. The answer should be obvious. You should ignore anyone on this subreddit who tells you otherwise. There are more concerned about stroking themselves off…
/r/seduction16/11/25 08:18 AM
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Models has some excellent points. Don't get me wrong. There are specific ideas that are highly useful. The idea of 'become a better, more interested, and more grounded person' is good advice but hardly groundbreaking. The notion of questioning your own beliefs, appraising them not just on the basis of whether or not they're true but also if they're useful to have -- that's high level insight. But on the other hand, it's just a very limited, niche book which also avoids anything that's controvers…
/r/seduction14/11/25 06:10 PM
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I've honestly never met a guy who gets laid lot AND recommends Models
/r/seduction14/11/25 05:50 PM
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There's levels to everything, and that guy is very much stuck at the beginner stage.
/r/seduction14/11/25 04:18 PM
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How you say it > what you say Mumbling 'i saw you and think you're cute so I had to say hello' doesn't convey confidence at all. Look at the last video he just posted that's not pinned video. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRCs24jEiMJ/ The girl (a soft 4 btw) gives him IODs and starts walking faster. He doesn't pick up on her disinterested body language. Then she tells him that he just approached her two days ago.. And he keeps rambling on asking her interview style questions.. The guy is very c…
/r/seduction14/11/25 04:13 PM
1

This sort of spam approaching with direct openers is autism inducing.
/r/seduction14/11/25 03:28 PM
1

I have hundreds of notes saved on my phone from the past several years. I tend to edit them to make them exceptionally easy to read. Just because something is not a wall of word salad text, doesn't mean that it was written by chat GPT
/r/seduction14/11/25 07:07 AM
2

It's not even that brutal... You have air conditioning and a screen that keeps you entertained all day. Your ancestors massacred and enslaved people or were victims of such. All of your problems are trifles that exist primarily in your head.
/r/seduction13/11/25 06:10 AM
10

Literally go outside and talk to women. Do it until it stops becoming scary or anxiety-inducing. Find guys who are willing to observe you in the field and give you honest feedback.
/r/seduction13/11/25 03:12 AM
1

--->>Imagine the worst case scenario and do it anyways. This is a greater stoic practice to train yourself to quit being a wimp. I once spent a few hours opening with 'Excuse me. Can I ask a bold question.... what's your favorite sexual position?' I did thins purely to desensitize myself to social pressure. The whole way while driving to the field, I imagined myself getting arrested and then deported. Then, I did it anyways. You quickly realize that the worst case scenario rarely happens. But --…
/r/seduction12/11/25 04:08 PM
0

Firstly, the world isn't fair. That should be evident. Secondly, my point isn't that the world is or isn't fair My point is: complaining doesn't help your life at all -- especially if you're a man. It's in your best interest to not complain. If you need to vent, I'd suggest writing it in a journal; don't make it habit to emotionally vomit on other people. Doing so will ensure you only have access to other whiners. You show me the successful guy who frequently complains, and I'll delete my post. …
/r/seduction12/11/25 03:38 PM
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I'll repeat what I just said. They never hate on you from above.
/r/seduction12/11/25 02:51 PM
-13

They never hate on you from above...
/r/seduction12/11/25 02:46 PM
1

If you're from BANG GALORE, you should be giving us advice!
/r/seduction12/11/25 02:16 PM
3

true. Nuance is key
/r/seduction11/11/25 10:56 AM
30

This is good advice for *relationship management* but it doesn't apply well to cold approach. In the latter case, you'll pass over a lot of shy girls who either take time to warm up or don't readily express their feelings to people they recently met. Some of the girls who've been the most obsessed with me started out as girls who were very lukewarm.
/r/seduction11/11/25 03:58 AM
-2

Or Vietnam
/r/seduction10/11/25 05:51 PM
-5

Being an expert, someone who is able to confidently lead, highly competent, etc
/r/seduction10/11/25 05:43 PM
3

It's your wining pessimistic attitude and willingness to emotionally vomit on other people
/r/seduction10/11/25 02:47 PM
1

Right on the money. I just wrote a blog post about this. Here's the actionable heart: You just need to incorporate other qualities. - Leading - Teasing - Expressiveness - Light heartedness - Alternating Warm & Cold Along with other more subtle behaviors: - Strong eye contact - Slow, steady speech - Dominant body language - A willingness to sexualize in subtle ways When you do this, you stop being the boring rich dude.
/r/seduction09/11/25 05:07 PM
7

Just hang out with her and sleep with her. That's obviously what she wants. Listen to her actions, not her words.
/r/seduction08/11/25 05:41 AM
2

A buddy of mine recently put out a great video on this topic. 'AA isn't real.' Basically, 'AA' isn't a fear of talking to women. It's a fear of talking to strangers. Plus, he gives some practical tips that make your more calm and sociable generally. Very novel but sensible take, imo. Check it out and let me know what you think.
/r/seduction07/11/25 03:49 AM
3

This is exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about
/r/seduction06/11/25 04:47 AM
0

widely accepted as being immoral Honestly, who gives a f*ck
/r/seduction06/11/25 04:46 AM
3

I just gave 3 pieces of advice and your response amounts to: pfffft, yeah right, that won't work The thing is -- You're right. It won't work.... FOR YOU In all honesty, you need to start taking responsibility for you own life and owning up to the fact the results you get are 100% your own doing. (I'm not going to respond to any more of your emotional vomit -- so you can get your last little word in.)
/r/seduction05/11/25 04:37 PM
12

>posts L >just venting >doesn't elaborate >doesn't ask for advice >doesn't introspect about what he's doing wrong Many such cases I hate to be sardonic, but there's a pattern. Guys who dip into pessimism and negativity tend to reinforce their own losing streak. At the same time, they don't come across as particularly curious or growth oriented. Finally, they are typically 'just venting' and not really concerned about how their emotional vomit (that's what it is) gets on other people. In short, d…
/r/seduction05/11/25 04:00 PM
1

Things that never happened
/r/seduction04/11/25 06:00 PM
1

It's always the same story. At a certain point, you can diagnose these problems based on the title and don't even have to read the wall of text. He didn't smash in the span of 4 dates. That's the problem, not the fact that she went cold on him after -- which is merely the natural result of the problem.
/r/seduction04/11/25 05:55 PM
1

"hold her accountable" Bro. You should do stand up comedy
/r/seduction04/11/25 05:52 PM
10

To be fair, a lot of game is turning maybe girls into yes girls (or yes girls into fuck-yes girls).
/r/seduction04/11/25 01:14 PM
1

You had the chance to sleep with her, and you didn't (BTW, I knew this just by the title, and didn't even have to read your wall of text... Why? because there are no new problems). She doesn't think you rejected her. She thinks you're boring and are unable to strike when the iron is hot.
/r/seduction04/11/25 08:53 AM
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You're going to have to compromise to some degree in any long-term relationship. A good rule of thumb is this: Give the other person 95% of what they want. Never compromise on the final 5%. This will keep them hooked and invested.
/r/seduction02/11/25 06:14 AM
9

You can approach almost anywhere. On the street, at the 7-11, at the mall or bookstore, Walmart, a cafe, etc - anywhere in public where people are walking around or sitting. If you are new, start with a semi-direct approach. 'Excuse, I just saw you and thought you looked interesting so I wanted to say hello. You look like [observation].' Whatever she responds with, give her a little tease. If she doesn't start talking or asking you questions, ask her a few more questions, make observations about…
/r/seduction01/11/25 12:27 PM
1

I actually agree with this. It’s not that agreeableness is low-value. It’s that cow towing and ass-kissing to women signals neediness. Disagreeableness as a permanent, generalized character state typically IS low value. It’s usually a Gamma compensatory cope - a response to not being as superior as one imagines oneself. On the other hand, people with a lot of status are almost always agreeable in a general sense. Almost by definition, they are personable and know how to get along well with other…
/r/seduction29/10/25 02:29 PM
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article sucks toxic and stupid losers I hate these guys bitter chodes get better You don't even see how negative you come across, huh?
/r/seduction29/10/25 06:31 AM
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You almost have to write shit in a convoluted way just so people don't associate it with AI slop. Noted
/r/seduction29/10/25 05:45 AM
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Everything that's not Help, I'm a virgin or Just be confident Must be AI!! / s
/r/seduction29/10/25 05:42 AM
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Good on them? This is more for guys who want to sleep with lots of girls, not get shackled to a woman who treats them like a security blanket:) From the OP: Maybe he eventually gets into a relationship. But it’s with a lower-quality woman. She senses the easy security he offers. She does all the heavy lifting to initiate the relationship. So now she takes him for granted.
/r/seduction29/10/25 05:40 AM
1

Why are you here?
/r/seduction29/10/25 05:39 AM
1

Unless you admire your therapist's life to the point where you'd like to live it, get a journal instead. You're emotions aren't problems. They are information.
/r/seduction28/10/25 05:17 PM
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Cut out microplastics. Get a copper water bottle. Stop wearing synthetic/polyester underwear. Supplement with zinc, magnesium, and maca root. Eat more raw carrots, berries, and possibly seaweed. Stop compulsively jerking off. Stop seeing a therapist (that right there is enough to turn you into a b*tch). Do breathing exercises and kegels.
/r/seduction28/10/25 04:41 PM
1

Eating meat is associated with higher rates of ED
/r/seduction28/10/25 04:35 PM
1

Yeah, I get that. But did you read the title of this post? Mindsets This isn't a post about raising your status (which you should definitely do). You seem you enjoy debating for it's own sake. Does that signal high or low status?
/r/seduction26/10/25 01:40 AM
0

nobody except weirdo degenerates want to fuck Merkel or grannies. the key was in this line: Adopt the frame of being a teacher and authority figure. You are her key to better understanding the world.
/r/seduction25/10/25 09:33 AM
1

why is it unfortunate? reality is what it is
/r/seduction25/10/25 09:30 AM
1

Get a coach to tell you want you're doing wrong and how you can improve. Then, stop asking questions and just do it.
/r/seduction25/10/25 03:51 AM
8

Because your beliefs carry into your actions. And it's ultimately behaviors that matter. Sure, looksmax and dress well (obviously).... But this post is literally about mindsets while talking to women.
/r/seduction25/10/25 03:50 AM
1

"Better than" is entirely subjective. That's why the mindset and behaviors of higher status matter. You could be a nobel prize-winning scientist, but you you act like a supplicative b*tch, you're going to go nowhere.
/r/seduction25/10/25 03:47 AM
28

That's literally the best way to tell tbh
/r/seduction24/10/25 05:59 PM
11

If the goal is to get laid, why would you not go for it on the 1st date (as a general rule)? There's so much that could happen between the 1st and 2nd date - namely she might have met a guy who is more decisive than you. She might think you are thirsty if you try to pull! More likely, she might think you are a cock-shy dork destined for the friend zone if you don't. I'm not saying you need to fuck on every first date. Or even that you should *always try to pull. But as a general rule, you should…
/r/seduction24/10/25 05:59 PM
9

Negative stereotype: lazy, controlling/jealous, poor, dirty, violent and hot-headed. Positive stereotype: Gregarious, charismatic, media savvy& expressive, passionate, in tune with their bodies, sensual. Don't be the first. Instead, be the second.
/r/seduction21/10/25 05:26 PM
7

I'm not labelling Asians with a stereotype. I'm acknowledging that the stereotypes exist and can affect how people are perceived and treated in the SMP.
/r/seduction21/10/25 04:56 PM
0

no. It's in the Bible. God literally said that Asians can only have sex with one girl their entire lives, and it must be arranged by their parents. Also, this only applies to men. Asian girls are free to get all the bwc they desire before they settle into a nice stable relationship with a sweet provider Asian husband. Sorry for your luck.
/r/seduction21/10/25 04:24 PM
2

"meh... 6/10"
/r/seduction21/10/25 04:21 PM
4

And what's the best case outcome for that? You banged some unfaithful girl after some loser got her first...? yippee s/
/r/seduction21/10/25 04:19 PM
1

She's actually handing you the blueprint for what attracts her. She doesn't say, "oh he listens to me whine and complain, and I hate that." No, she's saying things like, "I never know what he's thinking, and he treats me badly. I hate that (but I can't stop thinking about him)." Take a clue and start acting the same way to that girl. At worst, you're no longer her emotional tampon. At best, you might actually become the sort of guy who inspires similar emotions for her and other women.
/r/seduction21/10/25 04:18 PM
2

Read the book, 'No More Mr. Nice Guy.' The author, Robert Glover, discusses how 'covert contracts' are at the center of the Nice Guy Persona.
/r/seduction21/10/25 04:15 PM
13

Good post. Beyond assuming attraction, you shouldn't make assumptions. Instead, make hypothesis, then test them. Assumptions = passivity = no growth Testing hypotheses = active = new doors open
/r/seduction21/10/25 04:12 PM
17

Of course, it happens. There are always exceptions. But if you are just being passive as a man, you're going to lead a lackluster life.
/r/seduction21/10/25 04:10 PM
27

Every race has positively and negatively-stereotyped archetypes. You absolutely *need* to avoid appearing as the negative stereotype, especially if you are a minority. What this means in practice: If you're Asian, you need to avoid coming across as a soft moma's boy. You need to play up the bad boy or fuckboy image. If you are Indian, you cannot come across as a fashionless IT guy. Instead, you need to either get shredded and come across as Tarzan, or you need to lean into the tantric sex yoga g…
/r/seduction21/10/25 04:08 PM
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It was solid advice. Reddit is a sink for losers to try to flex on each other with imagined superiority. Most of these guys of very little experience, so they compensate with downvoting others and snark.
/r/seduction19/10/25 03:59 PM
2

"i am well aware that i should watch what women do and not what they say" Then why are you posted this? Stop outsourcing your thinking to the hivemind of other men who barely have a clue.
/r/seduction19/10/25 08:53 AM
1

Playing sports = good Watching sports = exercise cuckoldry
/r/seduction19/10/25 07:36 AM
1

I'm much shorter than you, but I did something similar in Vietnam. I just released a book about it here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FW5KRLCH
/r/seduction19/10/25 05:18 AM
1

Good, actionable post.
/r/seduction18/10/25 06:51 PM
5

There are probably a few non verbal signals you are sending in terms of posture, vocal tonality, and eye contact. DM me if you want to diagnose it.
/r/seduction18/10/25 06:48 PM
1

You're a worm who begs for affection like a homeless person or tries to manipulate your way into sex by being an ally.
/r/seduction12/07/22 07:53 PM
8

Ok, and... If you think the same rules apply for men and women, you're going to be sorely disappointed.
/r/seduction12/07/22 05:03 PM
25

Now you know. Don't talk about game with people who don't game. Don't ask for relationship advice from people with barren love lives. And if you date coworkers, don't ever mention it to other coworkers
/r/seduction12/07/22 01:08 PM
204

Lol, you literally did the worst thing possible. Shut your mouth. Girls appreciate discretion.
/r/seduction12/07/22 01:00 PM
1

Don't tell her
/r/seduction12/07/22 12:59 PM
1

Being toxic works to a large extent, but also backfires to the extent that you've created a somewhat toxic relationship dynamic. Balance is key.
/r/seduction12/07/22 11:11 AM
1

Yes, you confirmed my original statement. It's not funny though. You should be banned from giving advice about women/relationships when you clearly have no clue what you're talking about. But no doubt, like all worms, you think all people are equal, that their opinions are equal, etc. They are not. Sure, voice your shitty, unqualified opinion. But then don't be surprised when people 'in-the-know' point out that you're an utter failure at the topic you're offering advice about.
/r/seduction11/07/22 07:26 PM
1

And yet you are still lame and have next to no experience with women
/r/seduction11/07/22 07:15 PM
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He's just working a lot and stressed and tired, and probably a bit tired of fucking the same girl for years on end. Not much you can do about the latter thing right away. Try to alleviate his tiredness and stress by doing sweet things, massages, etc. Eventually, when the time is right, sit him down and explain to him that you have sexual needs and that it's his exclusive duty to fulfill them. If he's not willing to do that, tell him you want an open relationship. This should cause him to reasses…
/r/seduction11/07/22 07:11 PM
0

That's not true at all. You've obviously never gotten tired of having sex with the same girl. Says a lot
/r/seduction11/07/22 07:06 PM
1

OP isn't getting any girls because he is not a high value man based off what he said. This actually hits the nail on the head. Which is why I'm curious as to why earlier you suggested he shouldn't worry about conforming to the social paradigm of what a high value man is, and you gave me all sorts of grief for suggesting he should move out of his parents. Perhaps it was a simple miscommunication/disagreement about the best way to raise value?
/r/seduction29/06/22 02:09 PM
3

Thataboy
/r/seduction29/06/22 08:58 AM
1

You 'not tolerating' something only has weight if she's invested in a maintaining a relationship [of any kind] with you in the first place The fact that you are getting left on read indicates she's not invested like that. Up your value, up your game.
/r/seduction29/06/22 07:08 AM
29

"How many boyfriends do you have right now."
/r/seduction28/06/22 05:32 PM
1

"yikes" Why does every low t zoomer-millenial engage in this sort of performative display of shock/surprise?
/r/seduction28/06/22 04:09 PM
1

It's a weird bot post
/r/seduction28/06/22 03:44 PM
1

https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/meet-the-unhappiest-person-in-america
/r/seduction28/06/22 03:35 PM
1

You're mad at nature? You should be mad at the people who told you that 'single and 30' would be no problem?
/r/seduction28/06/22 03:31 PM
4

It's kinda hard to reset a frame after it's already been set a different way. Generally, you want to build a frame in the relationship where you are the assertive one. You largely do this by illiciting compliance, first in small ways ('hold my drink' is the classic line from 'The Game') and later in bigger ways (anal sex, for example). Dominance involves a bit more and enters into the realm of physicality: picking her up, moving her around, holding her down, etc. Again, this is kinda hard to do …
/r/seduction28/06/22 01:55 PM
-1

I probably wouldn't give a second look at a girl you'd feel lucky to date exclusively, but sure
/r/seduction28/06/22 11:23 AM
9

Yes, emotional intelligence is extremely important . Here's a small exercise you can do to help you develop that. Go to a crowded outdoor or public area and watch groups of people. Pay attention to how their emotions shift. Try to make guesses about what their emotions are and the nature/quality of the relationships between those people. Over time you'll be able to pick up on smaller and smaller things.
/r/seduction28/06/22 09:37 AM
1

Mà bạn là nam hay phụ nữ? Nếu bạn nữ thì chỉ cần cư xử ngọt ngào, có vẻ ngoài xinh/sạch sẽ, và có tiêu chuẩn cao.
/r/seduction28/06/22 09:34 AM
-7

Therapy is for losers and women
/r/seduction28/06/22 09:29 AM
-9

The Baizuo got his loser video game/anime friends to brigade. How original. Stay mad
/r/seduction28/06/22 09:25 AM
3

Ko có gì;)
/r/seduction28/06/22 08:32 AM
1

Ok. Ultimate Man Project Playing with Fire Mark Hyman Are my top 3 But even then, I would pick a coach who a) has a similar background and vibe as you, and b) is successful with the types of girls you want.
/r/seduction28/06/22 08:29 AM
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How you approach needs to be somewhat congruent to the environment. Otherwise, I wouldn't worry a whole lot about what's socially acceptable. So far, you've be living your life based on what's socially acceptable. How's that worked for you?
/r/seduction28/06/22 08:08 AM
3

Ok, sure. I wouldn't go to a grocery store simply to practice daygame or to have a session. But, if I see a girl at a grocery store that I want to talk to, I wouldn't moralize my way out of it. Simply put, in my mind, women like being approached by a guy like me. Considering that the majority of the girls I've slept with are those I've met in public (i.e., daygame rather than night, online, or social circle game), I'd say this view is reasonable. On the other hand, every guy who's ever told me t…
/r/seduction28/06/22 08:06 AM
27

Cafes, bookstores, grocery stores, pedestrian malls, parks, malls, outdoor sports areas, etc. You aren't going to meet women while sitting at home.
/r/seduction28/06/22 07:54 AM
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That you frame talking to a woman in a grocery store as stalking. Even before I learned what game was, I approached a girl in a grocery store and we dated for 7 years. She was a leggy Russian. You, on the other hand, probably date fat feminists with hairy armpits and try to manipulate your way into sex by virtue signalling how much of an ally you are.
/r/seduction28/06/22 07:52 AM
48

The gym is the only place I've gone outside for years Fix that
/r/seduction28/06/22 07:45 AM
15

Whatever they are reaching for, tell them it tastes terrible. Use that to break the ice and segway into a conversation
/r/seduction28/06/22 07:43 AM
-2

Lol, imagine how shitty of a life you must have
/r/seduction28/06/22 07:41 AM
4

James Tusk is not legit. 6'x" tall Well built Does stifled direct game in interview mode
/r/seduction28/06/22 07:38 AM
1

I give guys practical advice that works to help them improve one specific area of their lives, and I don't give advice on things I'm not myself competent in. If OP is happy with not getting laid, he should listen to you. If he wants to get laid and have success with women, he should listen to me. It's very simple.
/r/seduction28/06/22 06:09 AM
1

It's a brand new account that always posts this deranged lgbtqp+ threads. Probably some bot made by a software engineer with rock bottom T levels and gender dysphoria. But if you call them mentally ill, you're supposedly the hateful one.
/r/seduction27/06/22 04:25 PM
1

It's what is known as a slide thread
/r/seduction27/06/22 04:22 PM
1

It's reoccurring thread that some weird transformer activist posts, always with a brand new account. This is what reddit supports btw
/r/seduction27/06/22 04:21 PM
1

OP will never be a real woman. This is some weird bot/npc post that gets periodically posted here
/r/seduction27/06/22 04:18 PM
2

-Weirdo gender activists cut if their dicks while claiming not to be mentally ill. -Also, Ghislaine Maxwell was a top commentor on reddit before getting arrested for human trafficking. -Conservatives are more attractive and have more sex. -Chicks like rough sex and lack desire for weak males. Drop more red pills on the schizo leftoid bot threads
/r/seduction27/06/22 04:17 PM
1

You will never be a real woman... And yet you were never a real man either
/r/seduction27/06/22 03:32 PM
3

You're probably right back the manual labor thing. Definitely get the back issue fixed. Maybe the best part about game is getting chicks to give you free massages
/r/seduction27/06/22 06:12 AM
1

Girls get approached less in public than you realize, and more online than you realize
/r/seduction27/06/22 05:41 AM
1

Here's the cold hard reality. Most guys think like you. They have social anxiety. So instead of doing the scary thing and talking to people in real life, they send dry messages on social media, where the rejection stings less. So essentially every girl is being hit up by guys who have social anxiety. And, girls mentally pit these guys into the weirdo/loser category. The advice you need is to do what's scary, not what's easy.
/r/seduction27/06/22 05:36 AM
16

In short, you think men and women are the same. You're applying your reference for what is attractive and applying it to how women behave/think. Despite all evidence to the contrary staring you in the face, you still think you're correct. You're not. Learn from life; trust your own thoughts and opinions less.
/r/seduction27/06/22 05:15 AM
7

Good job on taking action and learning from experience, OP.
/r/seduction27/06/22 05:11 AM
2

Yes, probably a mistake. You she be someone she can forget her troubles with, not someone she wallows in them with.
/r/seduction27/06/22 04:13 AM
1

You're all good man. Good for you for losing a bit of weight and pursuing other goals. Treat game as a skillset that you can improve in, and approach it like any other skillset. Put in the time and work while copying what has worked for other guys from a similar background who have achieved goals similar to those you hold. If you have the money, it's probably worth hiring a coach. Just be a bit picky in selecting one. Try to find a buy who has a similar vibe as the one you have. Don't go for a '…
/r/seduction27/06/22 03:30 AM
1

Right
/r/seduction26/06/22 08:05 PM
3

I've heard that the museums in dc are gold for daygaming foreign tourists. Obviously don't spam approach. Use opinion and situational openers related to the exhibits.
/r/seduction26/06/22 07:36 PM
-5

https://www.google.com/search?q=what+does+smv+mean
/r/seduction26/06/22 07:32 PM
1

Think of it this way. Do you think she is asking strangers online about how to talk to you? The likely answer is no. Thus, it's going to be very hard for you to not appear desperate because, in reality, you are. Serious question: have you read the top posts in this sub?
/r/seduction26/06/22 07:29 PM
1

You didn't answer my question. Have you ever read this sub before today? If yes, have you ever heard of a story when 'confessing feelings' turned out well? I think your next step is to realize that being so emotional and nice is holding you back, that your intuition on what works is wrong (if it wasn't wrong, you wouldn't be in this situation rn). The girl you had a crush on is literally banging some dude she describes as a manipulative asshole. Take the hint and realize that embracing a bit of …
/r/seduction26/06/22 07:23 PM
1

Why do you send boring af text messages. The world is literally sending you a message. Receive it
/r/seduction26/06/22 07:11 PM
1

Recap: You never made a move on a girl you liked Instead you became her emotional tampon Then you confessed your feelings [Imagine all of our shock to learn this didn't work.] Question: Have you read this sub at all before today?
/r/seduction26/06/22 07:08 PM
8

'A girl will forgive you for trying to fuck her, but she'll never forgive you for not trying to fuck her' Basically, you need to tell yourself that you are massively disappointing women by being such a wimp. And that they only have so much patience for cockshy men.
/r/seduction26/06/22 06:11 PM
5

Yes, you are kinda naive. More importantly, what you're pursuing is a very passive strategy that relies on luck and women doing the heavy lifting for you. Usually this results in a mediocre passionless relationship where the women is in charge. You do need to learn basic behaviors and strategies simply because these were probably never taught to you.
/r/seduction26/06/22 06:10 PM
8

I totally agree. The bitter red-pill-rage guys don't understand that all of modern feminism can be traced back to shitty dudes. (My pet theory is that tons of manly men died during WW2, leaving tons of cowards and stunted men to inadequately fill the role of husbands and fathers, thus birthing Friedan-style 1st wave feminism). It's also worth noting that the women who say 'men are trash' naturally repel decent men and are left surrounded by trashy men. It's a vicious cycle for them The answer is…
/r/seduction26/06/22 06:05 PM
22

I don't blame women for taking advantage of their smv. I'd do the exact same thing: wring foolish guys for as much money and favors as possible while withholding sex as much as possible. At the same time, as a guy, I don't tolerate that sort of behavior. Rather than leveraging resources, I tend to leverage fun, excitement, experience, etc. And in reality, the skinny 20 yo chick who demands nothing is usually a better lay than the skinny 20 yo chick who expects you to be her ATM. Does that make s…
/r/seduction26/06/22 05:38 PM
37

Sucking dicks on a yacht is a weird form of empowerment, but sure
/r/seduction26/06/22 05:28 PM
13

Yes
/r/seduction26/06/22 05:25 PM
14

Words of wisdom - Unless you have a practical duty-bound reason (i.e., taking care of a sick parent), there's no reason why you should still be living at home. It signals a lack of maturity, development, and independence. Your parents have done you a massive disservice by coddling you for this long. I'm guessing you either don't have a father, or your father barely has any self-respect himself. If he has any sense of self-respect, he probably is ashamed of you. Point being, you need to fix the m…
/r/seduction26/06/22 05:22 PM
4

Unless he was doing something else amazing, yes
/r/seduction26/06/22 04:59 PM
1

Yes. Desiring a long life, as an end of itself, without accomplishment or achievement, is ghey af. In reality, higher testosterone leads to a host of positive effects, from being more truthful to relying less on social consensus in forming an opinion. OP is guaranteed low T.
/r/seduction26/06/22 04:55 PM
5

It's literally weaponized Chinese social media designed to weaken the rest of the world. https://youtu.be/9j68gYP57EE
/r/seduction26/06/22 04:53 PM
3

Good stuff. 'You are not your thoughts, you are not your feelings' is a mantra I try to live by. You can also see it on this sub. The guys who whine and cry about not getting laid tend to identify with their feelings and thoughts. It's pure self-sabatoge.
/r/seduction26/06/22 04:47 PM
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"Cool, have fun" Then stand back and feel lucky that she's not in your life while also being amused by her constantly retreating smv.
/r/seduction26/06/22 04:45 PM
3

It would help if we knew something more specific. It's a very broad question and isn't going to get a good answer Women like fun guys who know how to elicit emotions and lead. If you can't do that, you're basically begging for the scraps that fell off some other dudes dick.
/r/seduction26/06/22 04:43 PM
4

"hey guys. Here's a philosophical and life outlook that's ruining my life which I'd like to share with you." Jesus, no wonder you don't get laid.
/r/seduction26/06/22 04:40 PM
1

You'd be surprised how well abundance can fix the problem of onetis and clinginess. but generally, you're right. If he doesn't fix the underlying issue, this will reoccur
/r/seduction26/06/22 12:04 PM
1

He's 20 and been in a relationship for 4 months, a quarter of which has been sexless. I suppose it's possible to turn things around, but would it really even be worth it.l? I agree he needs to focus on himself, but I question whether that's easier to do inside such a shitty barren relationship. And yes, I've literally dumped a girl because she said she wasn't in the mood once. This wasn't some principled stance on my part. It was just a matter of me sensing that she was either finicky or used se…
/r/seduction26/06/22 11:20 AM
1

He's 20 and been in a relationship for 4 months, a quarter of which has been sexless. I suppose it's possible to turn things around, but would it really even be worth it.l? I agree he needs to focus on himself, but I question whether that's easier to do inside such a shitty barren relationship. And yes, I've literally dumped a girl because she said she wasn't in the mood once. This wasn't some principled stance on my part. It was just a matter of me sensing that she was either finicky or used se…
/r/seduction26/06/22 11:15 AM
2

Very good points. You need to establish a bit of rapport before breaking it
/r/seduction26/06/22 09:41 AM
2

I basically agree with this. There's also the self-image aspect of lying. OP is basically saying to himself, 'Im the sort of guy who has to lie to get laid.' Ironically, his view is pretty skewed and not even that useful. He could just as easily be telling himself and the girls he's with, 'Im the sort of guy who naturally dates multiple women at one time.' In the latter case, it comes down to value. Do you really think Leonardo DiCaprio has to lie to chicks or falsely promise to be monogamous to…
/r/seduction26/06/22 09:40 AM
1

Break up with her. Either she has an ultra low libido (in which case, you should let some other guy suffer through it) or she's not particularly turned on by you. Either way, you're only harming yourself by staying in the relationship. Also, keep in my, there's not way that you can logically convince her to desire you, which itself is a feeling.
/r/seduction26/06/22 09:00 AM
1

https://markmanson.net/fuck-yes
/r/seduction26/06/22 06:56 AM
2

Manson literally says to only go after girls who show clear 'fuck yes' signals
/r/seduction26/06/22 06:15 AM
2

Assume all women are interested and actively go after girls who seem neutral. A lot of girls are simply nervous/socially awkward and need you to gently lead the interaction. The best relationships i ever had started with girls who showed absolutely no signs of interest. Instead, the simply allowed me to gentle move things forward. (Just being with you is an ioi) Probably the key is knowing when yourself to pull away, allowing them to move in and fill the gab, so to speak. But that usually comes …
/r/seduction26/06/22 06:14 AM
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This is very true, with some exception, and I'm surprised it doesn't get talked about as much. Additionally, because of the way that apps filter by age, it's much easier for older guys(30+) to date younger women (18-24) through day/night game.
/r/seduction26/06/22 05:10 AM
2

Reframe: you are the hottest 5'8" dude on the planet
/r/seduction25/06/22 05:08 PM
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Then your probably already in the top 20%
/r/seduction25/06/22 05:02 PM
2

Your priorities are wrong You're focused on avoiding a loss instead of gaining a win
/r/seduction25/06/22 04:55 PM
1

"Here lies OP He never got shot down"
/r/seduction25/06/22 04:47 PM
3

Do you work out regularly?
/r/seduction25/06/22 04:42 PM
-2

Ask google
/r/seduction25/06/22 04:12 PM
3

This place was legitimately good 10 years ago before the PC police took over
/r/seduction25/06/22 04:10 PM
0

Or maybe I'm not a thirsty weirdo mini celeb who still has to lurks in seddit while fantasizing about acquaintances before catching a scandal. Serious, I don't know why people with lgbtqp+ flags and 'poly'(i.e., a cuck) in their bio try to come after me. Your definition of 'hot af' is probably a 6, tops. If you're in a monogamous relationship with a girl who's not fucking other guys (guess that disqualifies you), the pull out method works well enough. Easy way to catch an std if your banging a c…
/r/seduction25/06/22 07:20 AM
6

Lol. In other posts you've made, you say you're 59 years old I doubt you have anything to worry about
/r/seduction25/06/22 04:42 AM
-2

Fat ugly women who can't get a guy to settle with them will be swiping left even more. Oh no!
/r/seduction25/06/22 04:41 AM
1

Ya, sterilize yourself
/r/seduction25/06/22 04:39 AM
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Most people in the west have rock bottom fertility anyways. Pregnancy usually occurs when people are too dumb to use a condom or with a guy who's too dumb to pull out. It's telling that the women who seem most upset by this are ugly old women who get no attention from men.
/r/seduction25/06/22 04:36 AM
3

She's 15. Just hold her hand. That will be enough for a 1st date at that age. Ignore the dweebs who parrot mainstream advice like 'just be yourself'.' those guys haven't had an original thought ever
/r/seduction24/06/22 04:42 PM
1

Thanks for your opinion on the matter, karen
/r/seduction24/06/22 04:04 PM
1

Here's the full description since leftists are adverse to saying a truth plainly without manipulation: Women should be “put on a pedestal.” Women should be cherished and protected by men. Men should be willing to sacrifice to provide for women. Women are more virtuous than men. Women are more refined and pure, compared to men. While it's bluepilled af in a hokey christian conservative way, it also implies that women and men aren't the same, that women's virtue ought to be protected and guarded, …
/r/seduction24/06/22 03:49 PM
1

Ya. Is there a part you are referencing or are you content on making vague references as some low t move?
/r/seduction24/06/22 03:28 PM
1

Literally doesn't hurt. I've seen literal Nazi skin heads pick up SJWs, but never the other way around: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/women-who-stray/201812/feminists-think-sexist-men-are-sexier-woke-men
/r/seduction24/06/22 09:57 AM
3

These sort of people live and die by the opinions of others. How many threads have been made by people in the mod late 20s who have taken absolutely no action? How many of these threads, when they get responses that don't resemble the encouraging words of a parent who babied them throughout their whole lives, get deleted. I have zero sympathy for people's who's own shitty mindset gets them predictable results
/r/seduction24/06/22 09:49 AM
3

I did in a separate comment: 'take action and build momentum.' Imo, if your emotions are dependent on nice words from strangers on the internet, youre already kinda fucked. I'm not going to feed into someone's desire to be validated for all the wrong reasons.
/r/seduction24/06/22 07:26 AM
2

Advice and encouraging words aren't going to really help you. Taking action and building momentum will, but only you can do that.
/r/seduction24/06/22 06:46 AM
3

Have you considered changing anything about yourself or the way you're going about meeting women?
/r/seduction24/06/22 05:19 AM
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Gotcha. That must be why 2/3 of the posts here violate rule one but you magically appear to enforce the doctrine of PC virtue signalling. Like I said, deeply committed to ensuring men's virginity lasts as long as possible
/r/seduction24/06/22 05:17 AM
1

In order Fun. I've barely experienced that, but some people (women included) are either highly conscientious and detail oriented or alternatively lack the ability to handle ambiguity. They don't want to hang out with you. For attention and status amongst themselves. Most people have a very poor understanding of what they actually want. Furthermore, honesty is a masculine virtue. Expecting a woman to be completely transparent is an unrealistic expectation on your part.
/r/seduction24/06/22 05:15 AM
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Basically, yes. What exactly is your contribution here besides deleting posts?
/r/seduction24/06/22 05:09 AM
1

Distinguish what the tantrum is about first. Is it a tantrum because you are doing things that make you less viable as long term partner. If so, consider it an relational IOI. That said, you still have to punish the behavior so she doesn't become conditioned to thrown tantrums because they are a convenient and easy way to manipulate you into doing what she wants. She has to emotionally learn that acting poorly, even if justified to some extent, will result in emotional pain in the form of loss f…
/r/seduction24/06/22 05:00 AM
2

Don't take advice from generalist articles written to a broad audience. I suppose you could get a few ok pointers from wikiHow on how to get started playing tennis (or whatever you're interested in), but if you actually want to get good, you'd invest your time training under someone who specializes in that specific activity. Not a huge fan of AMS either. I'm sure it's 90% 'improve yourself and don't focus too much on hoes,' which is legit. But the guy's vibe seems off to me. This may be primaril…
/r/seduction24/06/22 04:55 AM
2

The is a clear case of mental self-sabatoge. I honestly consider you beyond help. ('Those who want something bad enough will find a way, those who don't will find an excuse') But everyone else should take note on how the momentum of a negative self-image combined with the momentum of inaction will ruin your life. Don't be like OP.
/r/seduction24/06/22 04:49 AM
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The mods are committed to making sure everyone here stays a virgin. I'd encourage everyone to look at this mod's post history and ask themselves, what exactly qualifies them to be a mod here beyond the ruthless adherence to the church of PC.
/r/seduction24/06/22 04:42 AM
5

Not a bad post, but it only really applies to guys who are at a certain level or above. For guys who aren't able to get laid, this sort of advice will fall on deaf ears or won't be too beneficial. It's similar with money. Going from dead broke to having 100k in savings will dramatically improve that person's life. They probably should obsess about not being broke. Going from 100k to 200k in savings probably won't, and it would be detrimental to focus on that to the exclusion of everything else.
/r/seduction24/06/22 03:56 AM
2

Ya, the core practical advice you give is solid. Work out, have cool hobbies, etc. But you're foolish if you think that understanding female psychology is a waste of time. The crux of the issue is this: you will never understand women by watching YouTube or lurking here. It's only through practice and experience which offers this knowledge.
/r/seduction23/06/22 07:45 AM
1

Wrong sub. Go to AskReddit. More gay guys there
/r/seduction23/06/22 07:42 AM
12

Do zoomers actually ask their friends, 'do you want to have sex?' I literally thought this was something you only saw on TV shows written by liberal eunuchs.
/r/seduction23/06/22 07:41 AM
4

Don't get so comfortable in the thought that you'll naturally end up in bed with this chick. Remember, it's still your job to silently leads the way and to take opportunities she provides. In terms of what to do before, shave and clean yourself l, obviously. Haircuts don't hurt. Some people like to meditate the day of a day. I prefer to work out. Make sure your place is ready for a chick to come over to.
/r/seduction22/06/22 08:18 AM
1

Just ignore them. You don't have to say anything. You can even not accept their friend request
/r/seduction21/06/22 09:33 AM
2

Talk to other women
/r/seduction21/06/22 09:32 AM
8

Californication
/r/seduction19/06/22 04:35 AM
2

'Bro, what do I do about this one girl? We work together at Applebee's and she's a 10. We went out once. She said I was funny and touched my arm. We also almost kissed but I didn't want to rush things and scare her off. Now I just found would she met another guy and starting fucking him after just a week. Where did I mess up? should I tell her how I feel. P.s., I don't actually want to improve with women in general, but I want this girl because she's super cool and totally unique.' This is every…
/r/seduction17/06/22 09:09 AM
13

Don't qualify yourself like that, especially for a girl who is behaving poorly and being disrespectful
/r/seduction17/06/22 07:43 AM
23

Kinda, ya. You basically debased yourself for a scrap of pussy from some hoe on tinder.
/r/seduction17/06/22 07:42 AM
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Not asking a girl's weight after she asks your height is the epitome of simpery
/r/seduction17/06/22 07:09 AM
2

'This one girl....' I swear to God, OP, if you don't read the top posts and FAQ, you'll be one of those loser guys who is 28 and asking here for advice on how to lose their virginity.
/r/seduction17/06/22 06:49 AM
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Find a boyfriend who isn't a massive pussy and let him handle the rest
/r/seduction17/06/22 06:48 AM
5

You're not wrong The mods here are more worried about not offending gender dysphoric reddit admins than ensuring that this is a place where young men can come to get solid advice on improving their lives and skills with women. Another big issue is two-fold. Firstly, guys with experience aren't going to hang around and answer the same questions multiple times per week for young guys who are too lazy/stupid to read through the top posts or faq. Second, the younger generation of men are, frankly, s…
/r/seduction17/06/22 05:53 AM
14

Women who say 'all men are dogs' aren't lying - that's been their experience. Explanation: Decent men don't tolerate women with shit attitudes. Only lowly, shit men tolerate such women. Thus, women with shit attitudes only interact with and date shit men.
/r/seduction16/06/22 06:45 PM
2

It's actually the reverse. Women aren't attracted to men who they don't respect
/r/seduction16/06/22 06:43 PM
1

Just hold her hand
/r/seduction16/06/22 01:41 AM
2

Just be witty and charming when you see her. If she wants, she'll create little openings for you. I hardly doubt this chick wants to stay cloistered in her conservative cultural community forever. Just be ready to pull the trigger when the time is right. In the meantime, continue working on yourself and seeing other girls (but not too seriously)
/r/seduction15/06/22 10:28 AM
18

Another guy 'confessing his feelings' Don't be this guy
/r/seduction15/06/22 10:08 AM
0

Sounds like a fancy way of saying you have no other options to me. Simply put, if you had options, i.e. other girls you're seeing or sleeping with, you wouldn't be obsessing about one girl to the point of asking strangers on reddit to decipher her actions. You'd be accustomed to dealing with women, and you could take or leave this girl. You'd realize there isn't much remarkable about her (At most you'd be asking about tips to bang SE Asian girls). You wouldn't be in your feelings about this. The…
/r/seduction15/06/22 10:03 AM
0

Another dude with no options fantasizing about 'this one girl.'
/r/seduction15/06/22 09:37 AM
1

The mods here are utterly worthless
/r/seduction15/06/22 09:34 AM
7

Only think thoughts that give you motivation and help you improve your life. If you can't control your thoughts, that is a larger problem that you should fix asap.
/r/seduction15/06/22 08:38 AM
3

Bottom of the barrel men. No self-respecting single man aims for grandmas
/r/seduction15/06/22 07:23 AM
16

In the United States, most women are so fat at such a young age -- they never 'peak' at all, or they peak below the AoC. It's possible that a girl can get her shit together, dedicate herself to improving her looks, and peak later, say around 30. (The Asian model Cathryn Lee is a good example of a woman who looks better now than she did in her mid 20s) But few high status men under 45 really want to date a woman over 30, especially the average woman who isn't taking care of her looks. They still …
/r/seduction15/06/22 06:36 AM
0

For whatever reason, dressing in a feminine/girly way is seen as an invitation to approach by many men. Some guys like heavier chicks. So you can still find guys who are into your body type. And dressing feminine and girly will have the same effect on them. However, most men (myself included) prefer thinner girls. It is what it is. If I was a woman, I would do 3 things: Obsessively focus on maintaining a healthy and attractive appearance, to a degree just short of appearing overly shallow. Secon…
/r/seduction15/06/22 04:58 AM
4

Dress feminine Don't be fat
/r/seduction15/06/22 04:45 AM
2

All people do this. There is a whole field of psychology (behavioral psych) which focuses on what people actually do while ignoring or effectively dismissing what they think. If you ask anyone, 'do you want to have a healthy lifestyle,' generally everyone will say yes. But when you look at actual behaviors and habits, you'll find that most people fall very sort of this cognitive ideal. Generally, you should trust people's actions, not their words, beliefs, or opinions.
/r/seduction15/06/22 04:37 AM
6

Women with short hair look butch and unattractive - or simply mentally ill
/r/seduction15/06/22 04:33 AM
10

If you had 3 other women waiting in the wings, this wouldn't be a problem. You're only as confident and non-needy as your number of options.
/r/seduction15/06/22 04:31 AM
14

Not really. Women reach the peak of their value by 25. If they haven't secured a good partner by then, with each passing year, the number and quality of their potential partners diminish. Modern feminism effectively lies to women and sets them up with false expectations. That is why there are so many angry, bitter old women (who are usually addicted to anti-depressants or anxiety medications) in places like the United States and Canada. Weak men feed into this problem by entertaining notions tha…
/r/seduction15/06/22 04:29 AM
1

The simple solution is to break up with her and get a different girlfriend. You can even be honest and tell her why, but dont expect her to change
/r/seduction14/06/22 03:15 PM
6

I'm confident that seddit is being trolled by weirdo gender activists rn.
/r/seduction13/06/22 07:52 PM
1

A woman or someone with exceptionally high estrogen wrote this
/r/seduction13/06/22 07:50 PM
3

The mods here are more worried about angering the literally pedo admins of reddit
/r/seduction13/06/22 07:48 PM
2

This Transformers are bored today
/r/seduction13/06/22 07:47 PM
4

This weirdo posts here a couple times a week with new screennames
/r/seduction13/06/22 07:46 PM
2

Good question actually. Trust what the world is telling you, but don't internalize it as some fixed characteristic (of yourself) or some diktat that you must obey. The absolute worst thing you could do is simply bow to social conditioning. At the same time, you need to be able to take 'practical, lived feedback' (i.e., experience) and use it as a reference point from which to adapt in order to achieve your goal. Hope that helps.
/r/seduction13/06/22 07:44 PM
1

They are nervous
/r/seduction13/06/22 06:34 PM
2

Treat her like a 5 year old
/r/seduction13/06/22 06:33 PM
12

Jesus fucking Christ. Enjoy your summer, play sports and get a tan, talk to other chicks, forget about 'your crush.' Seriously, this chick thinks about you zero seconds per day, and you're basically wasting mental and emotional energy on her. Value your mental and emotional energy more, channel it into more productive ends or people who actually treat you with respect. How did American teenagers ever become this ghey. What are they putting in the drinking water?
/r/seduction13/06/22 06:07 PM
0

Ya, it's extra bad today. The mods are doing their jobs and keeping this place virgin-central.
/r/seduction13/06/22 06:01 PM
0

The world, and girls, are a mirror. They are telling you point blank that you're weird. You swear you're not. Who should we trust? You're a virgin who thinks they are too good to lie. Look how far that has gotta you. In all honesty, your whole question is framed from a 'taker' mentally. 'help me,' is what it screams. You could have read the top posts. You could have read the FAQ. You could have found any of the hundreds of content creators about game on YouTube and devoured a few hours of their …
/r/seduction13/06/22 05:58 PM
1

What if I told you that your need for 'closure' turns women off. To offer a practical answer to your question, accept everything as your responsibility. By default, some hoe ghosting you is your fault, which you must accept. You either did something to push her away or you ignored a ton of red flags. Any other interpretation stands in the way of you getting your shit together and improving.
/r/seduction13/06/22 05:43 PM
0

Of it doesn't lead to sex or a relationship, it's childish and shouldn't be entertained or gloated over.
/r/seduction13/06/22 03:56 PM
1

He likes you but is a wimp
/r/seduction13/06/22 03:54 PM
4

Stop 'confessing your feelings' Women and small children have feelings. Men do things.
/r/seduction13/06/22 03:53 PM
3

So many problems with this, it looks like a math test. First, there was no reason to call it a date. 'man-to-woman' is a vibe, not a declaration. Second, you took her to a restaurant. Idk why any of you think this is a good idea (thats right, this is seddit, where the blind lead the blind). 'Getting to know eachother.' Betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of how attraction and relationships develop. You don't understand what comfort is (hint, it's not having the same taste in movies, or whatev…
/r/seduction13/06/22 03:51 PM
1

Do daygame or street game at night
/r/seduction13/06/22 02:00 PM
1

Ask if she wants to hang out for something specific (coffee, walk in the park, visit an art gallery, whatever). If she says yes, say 'what's the best way to set up the details, Instagram(or whatever)?'
/r/seduction13/06/22 09:48 AM
2

Solid advice
/r/seduction13/06/22 09:46 AM
6

Go everywhere 30 minutes early so you have time to talk to people. Quit wearing headphones.
/r/seduction13/06/22 09:44 AM
9

It would help if you used the word from the book, which was 'fixed' mindset. Overall, great post. The mountains of salt it generated on this sub is evidence of its fundamental truth.
/r/seduction13/06/22 09:42 AM
-1

This is the exact sort of whiny bitch mindset that turns women off.
/r/seduction13/06/22 09:40 AM
1

Please stop giving advice if you're so terrible with women
/r/seduction13/06/22 09:37 AM
2

You basically tell her that you're going to keep trying to kiss her, 'because that's who you are,' then just slow things down in terms of escalation. Go for kisses on the cheek, neck, forehead, or ear, which are hard for her to dodge by simply turning her head. Obvious, if she resists, don't keep forcing it and trying the exact same thing. Laugh it off and continue as if it's amusing to you that she rejected you, then go back to what she's comfortable with. By doing this, you've basically set th…
/r/seduction13/06/22 09:36 AM
1

Go exercise and message 3 other girls. Even if the other chick decides to reply, still do that before you respond to her.
/r/seduction12/06/22 06:07 PM
1

It's all good. With time and testing, you'll see what works and what doesn't and where the balance point is for something like kino
/r/seduction12/06/22 06:02 PM
1

Nothing is wrong with it, if you want to get friendzoned left and right (like a huge chunk of the people who post here asking for advice). Unless you have reference experience to go by, you should stop trusting your feelings. Most of it is media/cultural conditioning anyways. You certainly shouldn't trust the consensus of seddit, where most guys are lost with women. Listen to people with experience, instead. More specifically, listen to people who already reached goals you aspire to. If you real…
/r/seduction12/06/22 05:55 PM
2

Then you probably won't 'The person who says they can, and the person who says they can't, are both correct.'
/r/seduction12/06/22 04:25 PM
2

Ya, you basically ignore or divert away from any topics that set you back from getting laid It's kinda a golden rule among PUAs that you don't mention a girl's current or ex boyfriend while you're out with them. I break this rule all the time, but I'm really good at framing myself as an exceptional sort of guy and a bit of a fuckboy. You should just avoid the topic unless she seems like she really wants to talk about it. In that case, you should talk about the red herring (her having a boyfriend…
/r/seduction12/06/22 04:04 PM
1

You should still greet every date that way, every time
/r/seduction12/06/22 03:52 PM
0

Ok. That's a good idea. Try to hang out with her alone sometime after 5 or 6pm at a place (or nearby a place) where sex is possible. No cheesy dates at the cinema, expensive restaurants, or skating rink.
/r/seduction12/06/22 03:33 PM
1

Ask what?
/r/seduction12/06/22 03:28 PM
1

Trust actions, not words. Believing the words ('you're a prince') is stroking your ego and reinforcing behaviors that aren't getting you laid. Yes, you, like 90% of guys here, are taking things too slow.
/r/seduction12/06/22 02:25 PM
0

That doesn't change whether or not she wants to sleep with you
/r/seduction12/06/22 01:46 PM
1

Let's clarify this. Are any of these women fucking you? If so, how long does it take after you're sleeping with them for them to lose interest. For reference, women usually tell me I'm a bad man and then sleep with me anyways.
/r/seduction12/06/22 01:17 PM
-4

Assume that every girl has both a boyfriend/fwb and 3 other guys whose hopes of a relationship she entertains. Girls with borefriends are great to fuck. You get to have all the fun while her borefriend has to do the boring shit like emotionally support her and play househusband. Literally the only problem comes when either a) she breaks up with her borefriend and assumes you'll fill in the void (lol no), or b) when the borefriend finds out and, like the beta he is, blames everyone else (but hims…
/r/seduction12/06/22 01:13 PM
23

You have the soul of a short man, and your friends have souls of tall men
/r/seduction12/06/22 05:42 AM
1

You are racing against time, and losing. 'Trying' 'Been meaning to' 'Thinking of' Other that posting here, what have you actually done to solve this problem? You are your own worst enemy, OP
/r/seduction12/06/22 05:26 AM
1

You could have answered all these questions yourself 2 months ago by setting up a profile on a few apps and testing things for yourself Alslways seeking out 'the right answers' before taking action is holding you back
/r/seduction12/06/22 05:20 AM
1

I lost my virginity while my parents were in the living room watching to NBA playoffs. It's not impossible to bring a girl home and to your room, OP.
/r/seduction12/06/22 05:18 AM
1

CocoBabeNYC consistently gives good advice from the perspective of someone who's had tons of positive experiences with women. Listen to him.
/r/seduction12/06/22 05:17 AM
2

In reality, the longer you wait, the less likely you are too succeed. 5/6 posts on this sub are from guys who are obviously clueless when it comes to women. Most of the 'feel good' advice that gets posted here will make you feel good when you read it, but it's absolutely impractical or will cause you to waste tons of time and end up serially friendzoned. On your next date, great her with a big hug. That way, you break the touch barrier immediately in a non threatening way, which will make physic…
/r/seduction12/06/22 05:15 AM
5

1) Liberal men are weaklings, and they come off as unattractive. Stop that immediately. A literal neo-nazi will sooner bang a feminist chick than a leftist 'ally' will bang a conservative woman. 2) Women must always see themselves as the good guy. Telling you they still want to be friends makes them feel better about themselves 3) In some cases, they don't even want to 'be friends' in the traditional sense of the word. Rather, they want to continue receiving free attention from you in exchange f…
/r/seduction12/06/22 04:57 AM
2

https://www.amazon.com/Way-Men-Jack-Donovan/dp/0985452307
/r/seduction11/06/22 06:58 PM
1

I'm in a more conservative country and kinda prefer more introverted girls with lower notch counts Typically we get juice at a coffee place, or occasionally a drink or two, and never do an activity date except maybe a walk in the park or right after the coffee shop (which has good logistics for a short walk) to feel out an unsure possibility of a pull. If I do coffee, I often cap the date around an hour to an hour-and-half. Then I almost always arrange a second date at my place. So it works, but…
/r/seduction08/06/22 05:47 PM
1

I'm in a more conservative country and kinda prefer more introverted girls with lower notch counts Typically I get juice at a coffee place, occasionally a drink or two, and never an activity except maybe a walk in the park or right after the coffee shop (which has good logistics for a short walk) to feel out an unsure possibility of a pull.
/r/seduction08/06/22 05:44 PM
1

Are you one of those people who had most things handed to you, and you didn't have to create your opportunities?
/r/seduction08/06/22 04:00 PM
4

Highest anti-depressant use in the world. 70% overweight or obese. No matter who's president, half the country thinks they're illegitimate while the other half stans. Change places every 4 or 8 years. Rampant homeless and drug problem in most cities. Substandard education system Not saying it's the worst place (especially for making decent money), but these are just facts.
/r/seduction08/06/22 02:37 PM
2

Read Iceberg Slims book, or listen to the audio version on youtube It's quite eye opening
/r/seduction08/06/22 11:49 AM
1

I should have added the caveat that said advice has to be vetted and from a source that I'm convinced has the sort of success I myself would like to attain
/r/seduction08/06/22 10:53 AM
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Bro, your last post is on Reddit is on u/tooafraidtoask, where you wonder aloud if you masturbate wrong...... https://www.reddit.com/r/TooAfraidToAsk/comments/v6qwbu/am_i_masterbating_wrong/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
/r/seduction08/06/22 10:19 AM
1

So much anger 🙏
/r/seduction08/06/22 10:16 AM
5

I already explained this multiple times. 70% of women in the US are fat. I don't date fat girls. It would be like me telling you to try to bang any chick at an all-boys boarding school. Why would I make things harder on myself? Here, let me go game the skinny chicks I find at the KFC in San Antonio just to impress you. Lol
/r/seduction08/06/22 10:14 AM
1

I define a 9 has upper tier model/actress/or musicians (https://youtu.be/ZF3b1nK-TjM). These girls are effectively out of my range because my status, both wealth wise and as a foreigner, isn't that high. You won't find these girls on the street, in a mall, or at any venue you didn't pay a decent amount to be at. 8s are just below that, with upper 8 maybe could pass as a 9 if they had more status. 7s range from cute to hot. 6 are cute/ok with definite flaws. 5s are probably bangable on a dry spel…
/r/seduction08/06/22 10:12 AM
2

My god. Imagine making things easier for yourself. Let me go be homeless, shit my pants, and approach some girls just to prove to myself I have game.
/r/seduction08/06/22 09:50 AM
1

Don't set any expectations for a super fancy date in the first place. Consider it something of a numbers game. Maybe 1 in 10 girls is going to be turned off by just grabbing a drink or going for a walk on the first date. She was going to be high maintenance anyways, so you're better off screening her out anyways. Finally, don't take a girl to a lame normie cafe like Starbucks. Find one that is somewhat nice (or, better yet, unique), dark, not too crowded, has comfortable bench seating, and is al…
/r/seduction08/06/22 09:46 AM
3

Incels are the BLM/SWJs of the dating world. No one owes you sexgibs and no one (but yourself) is stopping your from becoming attractive and moving up in the dating game.
/r/seduction08/06/22 09:41 AM
1

Is it a factor? Sure. Is it the deciding factor? No There are plenty of girls in 'third world' countries, especially the highest status girls, who wouldn't date me because I'm a foreigner As for why not just move to a college town, there are lots of reasons. Cost of living, general culture, less feminism, easier to ignore annoying people, less shaming over age gaps. If I just wanted to fuck a lot, I'd move to a country with the sluttiest women. America and the UK might count among them, but so w…
/r/seduction08/06/22 09:33 AM
1

It's hilarious and kinda sad asking the more well traveled girls, 'so what did you think of Paris?'
/r/seduction08/06/22 09:25 AM
2

Based millennial chad
/r/seduction08/06/22 09:23 AM
1

Ya, if I was living in a shithole town of 50k in the middle of nowhere, moving to a big college town would be a huge improvement in terms of location. And I'd laugh my ass off if losers from my hometown seethed about 'the biggest reason for my success.'
/r/seduction08/06/22 09:09 AM
1

Cool, I didn't spend more than a seconds looking at your gw post history, so I guess the compliment is yours to take. Your other comments on this post are pretty hilarious though (in all sincerity), so carry on.
/r/seduction08/06/22 09:06 AM
2

They're whore mongers. I explained this to you already, but you decided you know better based oh...(checks notes)... nothing
/r/seduction08/06/22 09:02 AM
4

I know 'Third World' girls who married westerns but DON'T want to leave their countries. Sometimes to the point of creating a rift in their marriage.
/r/seduction08/06/22 09:00 AM
1

I honestly wasn't sure if you were a chick at first. I just saw your comments on gone wild, not your posts. My biggest criticism is that you're a woman who gets free validation for doing nothing besides posting pictures of yourself. Thus you're not really in a position to offer advice to people who are under wildly different circumstances. But I'm sure a bunch of simps who you don't fuck will tell you that you're right. And I just dug a bit deeper. You're not a 4. But that's not hard, considerin…
/r/seduction08/06/22 08:49 AM
7

I guess my biggest practical advice for guys like this is to consciously make the pain of inaction worse than the pain of rejection/failure. Love your last point btw. Momentum is a huge part of game, and people (in reality) learn far more from success than failure. The thing is, it's necessary to face failure and keep going in order to achieve success.
/r/seduction08/06/22 08:44 AM
1

Don't know what to tell you, but I'm not the one who comments over at Gonewild... So there's that.
/r/seduction08/06/22 08:39 AM
2

Ya, then I think we largely agree. Personally, almost any time I've met a single white guy at an airport in Asia, they come across as major whore monger or trick. I can't speak as much to England. But Amerikwa is the land of whales and ghetto princesses. There are obviously exceptions, but I'd much rather live in a place where 50% of 18-28 yo women are fuckable, rather than a place where 20% are.
/r/seduction08/06/22 08:37 AM
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Yes, and no. You can improve yourself in a way that girls don't care about. Likewise, even though you aren't comparing yourself to others, everyone else is. 'Only compare yourself to who you were yesterday' is often a feel good mental trap, imo. But generally, I agree. Once you reach a certain point with women, bigger and better goals take precedent over getting laid.
/r/seduction08/06/22 08:34 AM
0

Usually girls 15 years younger than me who weigh around 100lbs. Don't you lurk on Gonewild?
/r/seduction08/06/22 08:30 AM
1

You're obviously a woman. And probably a 4
/r/seduction08/06/22 08:25 AM
1

Typically, they take more risks and are less bogged down by social pressure. They do have the advantage of being unique as well, so girls also feel less of the constraint and social pressure, especially when the culture they're from is conservative. Likewise, there are simply more options for hotter girls in foreign countries. When 70% of the girls at the place you're at are fat, it's going to be hard to date hotter chicks. This is basic common sense. A lot of guys from places like England who g…
/r/seduction08/06/22 08:24 AM
1

Ya, more intermediate and especially advanced guys aren't going to hang out here and answer the exact same question 3 times a week, especially when almost no one even bothers to say thank you (like I said, value leeches) and maybe only a few people indicate they're even trying to apply the advice. Those intermediate/advanced guys typically bounce to private group chats or IRL circles and never look back. I feel you about starting from a really really low place too. I remember walking around for …
/r/seduction08/06/22 08:16 AM
2

'I've never left my hometown and am afraid of taking risks, but my mom says I'm a nice boy and just need to wait for the right one to come along. Why don't women like me?'
/r/seduction08/06/22 08:10 AM
0

Women do things based on how it makes them feel. Money isn't attractive to them. What is attractive to them: feeling that their better than other women because they can date millionaires.
/r/seduction08/06/22 08:06 AM
0

And ironically, the biggest advantage that western guys have in Third World countries is a carefree, fun, idgaf attitude. By contrast, most of the local guys believe that you have to be a financial stable nice guy who obeys society's standards and rules See the pattern here?
/r/seduction08/06/22 08:05 AM
1

Read the top posts and faq
/r/seduction08/06/22 07:46 AM
1

She's open to the possibility of branch swinging onto you, and you could easily make this girl your gf if you wanted to. But tbh, this is the type of girl you should fuck a few times but never be exclusive with.
/r/seduction08/06/22 07:46 AM
3

Have you spent much time in 'Third World' countries, op? [or, conversely, have you looked around in any major city in the US or Western Europe lately?] I can tell you for a fact, many parts of them look nicer than places like Philadelphia, and the women aren't exactly all loose hoes who abort 5 out of 6 of their pregnancies. Granted, I've never been to subsaharan Africa, if that's what you're talking about... 'Unless you can get laid in an all-mens prison, it doesn't count!' Imagine complaining …
/r/seduction08/06/22 07:41 AM
1

Ya, kinda the same attitude of fat women who say that men should be attracted to them lol
/r/seduction08/06/22 07:31 AM
-2

No, I just don't have infinite patience for losers who get off by being 'right' on the internet, rather than being balls deep in some chick. Enjoy your life, and remember that it's the one you deserve
/r/seduction08/06/22 06:59 AM
3

Next time, don't get butthurt and say things like that. Treat your attention like a gift. If a girl is non compliant, subtly withdraw it from her. I've had girls who would give me lmr and within 5 minutes of me basically ignoring them, they lean over and whisper 'i want to fuck.' That said, that type of girl (who is so easily affected by withdrawn attention that they go from 0 to 10 bc of it) is also a bit fucked in the head and make for terrible LTRs.
/r/seduction08/06/22 06:56 AM
2

Awesome man. The key is to break things down into small steps That, and focus on the wins. Congrats!
/r/seduction08/06/22 06:52 AM
-1

Case in point on the OP. My offer to help you is rescinded. Good luck
/r/seduction08/06/22 06:49 AM
0

Ya, have you ever noticed that these guys will complain about how they can't get laid, but when you point out the exact sources of the problem and ways to fix it, they lash out in impotent internet rage. Goes back to that saying, 'the way you do one thing is the way you do everything' These guys would rather feel ok about being losers than actually fixing their lives and changing themselves. They're addicted to their own sense of helplessness and bitterly attack anyone who shows them that they c…
/r/seduction08/06/22 06:33 AM
-1

'Oh my god, you travel and that's the only reason you get laid. Come to my hometown of 50,000 people and try that.' Literal loser mindset.
/r/seduction08/06/22 06:29 AM
-2

In reality, looks helps the most in the first minute of an interaction and the last minute before sex happens. It does create a barrier to success with certain types of women, but then the question becomes, 'why are you focused on the narrow set of limitations without serious working to overcome them through other means?' You can change your facial structure through working out, relaxation techniques, and mewing. You can't change your height, sure. But you can be the most badass dude of your hei…
/r/seduction08/06/22 06:28 AM
-3

I don't exactly disagree with that. Guys should location and geo-maxxx. Go to where the girls you want to date are. Just like you're not going to get laid much (with women) if you live in an all-mens prison, you're probably not going to get laid much (with skinny, feminine women) if you live in Ohio.
/r/seduction08/06/22 06:20 AM
3

There is one part I agree with here. 'Incel' is a bit of a misnomer. Every guy is capable of improving themselves to the point where they can at least pull a 5-6. Most guys who are 'incels' are simply unwilling to.
/r/seduction08/06/22 06:13 AM
6

Looks are changeable, homie. If you sent me a photo, I could easily point out the top three changes that need to be made to be more attractive. But once you've maxxxed out looks, it does come down to personality and interpersonal action. And moreover, there is a certain personality type that doesn't want to change and is comfortable with lowly mediocrity. This is the vast majority of guys who complain here about how they can't get laid and externalize all their problems to their supposedly fixed…
/r/seduction08/06/22 06:11 AM
5

For me, it's really about framing which is worse - a little bit of failure and stumbling, or missing out on success. Most guys who suck with women are trying to save face and avoid loss. Most guys who succeed really want to succeed and are willing to fail on their way there. At least that's been my experience.
/r/seduction08/06/22 05:58 AM
-4

Part of it might be my own learning style. I personally benefit the most from very blunt advice that cuts directly to the most important point. There's literally no way to help someone with social anxiety who won't put in the work themselves to acclimate to social pressure. Kind words from internet strangers don't make people less shy when they enter the real world. Again, this has probably been stated here 1000 times but is buried underneath posts by people who are too leechy to self-absorbed t…
/r/seduction08/06/22 05:55 AM
1

Lol, it's not the 'rules.' The common sense for all people who are successful to look for questions that have already been answered before piping up and begging for help
/r/seduction08/06/22 05:50 AM
3

Honestly, the sub saved my life like 10 years ago, but only as an introduction to the topic of seduction. The real progress comes, imo, when you can directly learn from guys with real success while applying ideas and changing behaviors that hold one back. (And no, I'm not necessarily talking about hiring a dating coach)
/r/seduction08/06/22 05:49 AM
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'omg, you moved to a place with the lowest obesity rate in the world and date girls in their early 20s. Let me ignore your opinion and continue to not get laid so I can feel better about myself.'
/r/seduction08/06/22 05:43 AM
1

Another example of a guy who is too f****** stupid to simply use the search bar.
/r/seduction08/06/22 05:40 AM
2

Nobody is coming to save you. Fax What are you going to do about it besides complain to strangers on the internet? Do you really think happy words of 'support' (again, from strangers on the internet) is the thing that's going to change your life? I just posted a thread about you, btw
/r/seduction08/06/22 05:39 AM
2

Exactly, and it's always from guys who don't get late. Like I said it's part of that pattern of taking value instead of taking initiative. It holds them back in every aspect of their lives. And the irony is, this sub actually holds people back by allowing them to continue that behavior.
/r/seduction08/06/22 05:36 AM
13

Yes, Behavioral cues like confidence implicitly signal success with women and in life in general.
/r/seduction08/06/22 05:33 AM
2

Pick your suck: 1) getting rejected a few times 2) never getting overtly rejected but never having any success either.
/r/seduction08/06/22 05:32 AM
2

Have you tried using the search bar or applying anything at all in this sub?
/r/seduction08/06/22 05:13 AM
4

These are all solid tips The only thing I'd add is to assume that her being out with you is itself an indicator of interest. It's also worth setting up dates close to your place. I literally take every single first date to the exact same cafe, sit at the exact same place, usually meet around the exact same time. Reduce the number of variables and decisions you have to make and it will simplify things and make it easier for you. Also, you can even do shorter first dates, 45min-1hour, and just tel…
/r/seduction08/06/22 05:11 AM
1

Without more details, and seeing the actual text, it's very difficult appraise this based on your own summary
/r/seduction08/06/22 05:07 AM
2

Have you ever considered that that passive mindset combined with low ambition for success and willingness to emotionally leech off the experiences of others is the reason you are failing so hard with women?
/r/seduction08/06/22 04:55 AM
1

Why are you here
/r/seduction07/06/22 05:17 PM
5

Guaranteed no higher than a 7
/r/seduction07/06/22 05:15 PM
1

So much negative self talk Ngmi
/r/seduction07/06/22 05:14 PM
1

What a word salad. This is your brain on leftism
/r/seduction06/06/22 03:36 PM
3

Dropshipping
/r/seduction06/06/22 03:30 PM
2

This. OP never pulled the trigger. Gotta develop that killer instinct
/r/seduction06/06/22 09:29 AM
3

Depends on where you live bro.
/r/seduction06/06/22 09:19 AM
12

Bro, I make nearly 10k a month from ecom. It helps but it's not some magic bullet. If anything, you have to worry more about girls pretending they like you.
/r/seduction06/06/22 06:51 AM
1

If it works, it works. I tend to find that it 'overcooks' the set and gives away the end of what will happen, leaving little to the imagination. But I imagine it varies a bit depending on the type of girl. I've rarely set up dates this way, but it's always been with girls who are a bit sluttier than I prefer
/r/seduction05/06/22 07:10 PM
0

Unless it's a tool to lead to sex, what's the point?
/r/seduction05/06/22 06:25 PM
1

The somewhat obvious and kinda brutal answer is that she doesn't respect you
/r/seduction05/06/22 06:25 PM
3

If it's online, I'd use it as an opportunity to get her to qualify.
/r/seduction05/06/22 06:23 PM
2

I kinda thought you were a guy who posted st similar a few weeks ago It's best not to sleep with girls you're stuck in a house with, unless you want to be tied to them and their drama
/r/seduction05/06/22 06:12 PM
1

Losers who think they have game and old married men sleep with prostitutes. Given how you're not an old married man, sleeping with a prostitute will only solidify your self image as the latter
/r/seduction05/06/22 06:11 PM
0

Until you have sex with a girl, she has all the power. If you want to make her your girlfriend, there's no reason for you to delay sex except to tease, create more investment/compliance, etc Sexting is lame too
/r/seduction05/06/22 06:08 PM
3

If you're getting the reaction during your very first interaction, i.e., on your approach, then you are coming across as overly gamey and insincere If you're getting this reaction on the 3rd date, turn it back in them: 'do I seem like the type of guy who would be happy with just one girl' There's a lot more to it, but that's the basic gist of how to handle it.
/r/seduction05/06/22 06:06 PM
3

Talk to more girls. A girl is too close to 0 girls
/r/seduction05/06/22 06:03 PM
8

This reads like a how-to guide on making your life awkward and uncomfortable
/r/seduction05/06/22 06:02 PM
1

Find a mentor, or someone who is already successful. Copy them
/r/seduction05/06/22 06:00 PM
2

This is probably the best answer tbh... And is predictably downvoted by the white knights and cockshy guys of seddit. All the books in the world won't help you with women (or any other topic under the sun) if you don't apply it in the real world.
/r/seduction05/06/22 05:56 PM
1

No one who recommends this book is actually good at game
/r/seduction05/06/22 05:55 PM
0

I've never met someone who recommends this book who is also good at game
/r/seduction05/06/22 05:54 PM
2

No More Mr. Nice Guy is good. Every man should read it
/r/seduction05/06/22 05:53 PM
1

You watch too much porn
/r/seduction05/06/22 05:49 PM
2

What you're describing is normal guy/chode game. Most guys do this. They kinda land into relationships without much thought. And then, a few years later, they wonder why their relationship is so shitty or why they're dating a girl who isn't even that attractive, but feel like they can't do much better
/r/seduction05/06/22 05:49 PM
4

Ya, act weird. That should work
/r/seduction05/06/22 05:46 PM
9

My god, no This is gen z aspie-ness at it's finest. Pick her up OP, go for a ride, have fun, park somewhere, start making out, and let things progress naturally. Just be careful not to get caught by the police. Depending on where you're at, the penalty can be steep. Source: I grew up in the Midwest. We banged in cars all the time as teenagers
/r/seduction05/06/22 05:45 PM
5

You weren't following your own advice. You showered her with free attention for a month over text, which effectively made your attention worthless.
/r/seduction04/06/22 09:17 PM
2

Honestly, just find someone here who seems to knows what they're talking about, dm in them and ask if they can help you. Then connect with them on an app that allows voice notes so they aren't getting bogged down by constant texting. But that only works if they believe you're already working toward your goals and just need some pointers or questions answered about situations your encountering. If your first question is, 'where do I start,' they are going to dismiss you as not serious, not driven…
/r/seduction04/06/22 09:08 PM
7

Get clear on your goals and work with someone who has achieved the sort of results you want. Really, just find someone more successful than you and take their advice seriously. The reason most successful people don't hand out free advice is because they realize many people are losers for a reason, and no amount of advice will help them. So it's more an issue of just conserving energy/effort for more important things. But most successful people also want to help others, if those other people show…
/r/seduction04/06/22 09:00 PM
1

Jesus, when a girl acts disinterested and non compliant, you don't pile on more validation
/r/seduction04/06/22 08:05 PM
0

You took a shit test and gave what came off as a compliment. yes, you failed it
/r/seduction04/06/22 08:02 PM
1

Relationship counselors rarely help relationships
/r/seduction04/06/22 08:00 PM
4

The same pussy gets old. It doesn't matter how hot a girl is. Focus on other intangibles and ways to improve his life. Be sweet, cook, clean, give him massages, act responsible, etc. But it's a two way street and he should understand that you have needs too, which includes a good dicking down every now and then. Make him understand, probably by blunting telling him, that if he doesn't have the acumen to fuck you well, you're more than capable of finding another guy who will.
/r/seduction04/06/22 08:00 PM
1

You're most likely right with the last paragraph. People tend to hate things that aren't resolved or concluded and it keeps them thinking about it - you wanting to reach out to her one more time to have some certainty is a prime example. Netflix dramas that end each episode with a cliffhanger operate by the same principle. In short, you actually have very little to gain (except your own feeling of closure) by 'shooting your shot' one last time. Put her story on mute and live your life. Go find o…
/r/seduction04/06/22 02:37 PM
1

Take off the mask. Nothing signals physical and mental weakness like following the herd's media-induced fear of a cold. High status men do what they want and aren't afraid to skirt the rules that govern peons Your parents care less about you getting laid than you think. I've never pulled to a hotel on a date, so I can't really offer advice on how to do that. I'd assume the best way would just be to drive to one, and then when she realizes where you're both going, coming up with a somewhat plausi…
/r/seduction04/06/22 01:15 PM
3

Going out with him was a sign of interest. He blew it because he never made a move and did 'friend' dates.
/r/seduction04/06/22 12:11 PM
2

Personally, I take every single first date to the exact same cafe and try to sit at the exact same spot. It's always a cafe that is poorly lit and dark and doesn't have a lot of people. It's also a cafe that has comfortable bench seating, so that we can sit next to each other rather than directly across from each other. It's also close to my house. If you do this, it's worth tipping generously every single time. That way the staff treats you very well, they look like they're happy to see you, an…
/r/seduction04/06/22 12:07 PM
11

Mistake 1. You went on cheesy activity dates. Stop doing this until you've actually slept with a girl. Any date activity which isn't inching you two closure to sex is a waste of time. There are some exceptions to this, but they're not worth discussing in this context. Mistake 2. You didn't make a move. Ever Mistake 3. you were waiting for her to give you some massive green light. Mistake three. Her spending time with you was a green light Mistake 4. You interpreted her story about rejecting othe…
/r/seduction04/06/22 11:17 AM
1

That's not bad advice.
/r/seduction04/06/22 05:08 AM
1

You're overthinking this. She's basically escalating on you while acting a bit like a child. Nothing about that is bad from a seduction standpoint
/r/seduction03/06/22 02:57 PM
1

I will literally do your app texting for you for 300 per month and coach you on how to act during dates. I honestly can't believe someone charges this much while also being that high pressure, but I get the feeling that some high profile dating coaches have subpar assistants that handle a lot of their back and forth/sales with clients.
/r/seduction03/06/22 02:37 PM
2

Literally all you have to do is: A) don't be fat B) be clean And c) don't appear as too easy But it sounds like you're more after cheap validation, so scratch c
/r/seduction28/05/22 03:42 AM
0

Smile and change the subject
/r/seduction27/05/22 10:09 AM
0

Dating girls at work is kinda cringey and asking for trouble
/r/seduction27/05/22 10:08 AM
1

I'd also add ears, back of the neck, nose, etc to areas than need to be well groomed. There are products like rogaine which work to help grow a beard thicker, if that's what you're after. Working out with help make you face more defined, and there are specific jaw exercises you can do as well.
/r/seduction27/05/22 10:06 AM
4

This is solid. I was just telling someone that a good route to go whenever you're ensure what to do is to escalate either verbally, physically, or logistically. For guys who are newer, it will take a bit of trial or error to learn to normal appropriate boundaries at any given time. But without failing occasionally, you'll be stuck in the limbo of indecision and constant hesitation. As always, if she seems massively uncomfortable or resistant, stop and take two (metaphorical) steps back.
/r/seduction27/05/22 10:03 AM
9

Lol, I used to have this bad habit during dates of mentally trying to figure out if the girl I was with had an internal monologue or not. Totally ruined the vibe for me, so I quit thinking about things like that and just went back to being the fun guy.
/r/seduction27/05/22 07:59 AM
2

Google 'crabs in a bucket' op. It describes your situation perfectly and will bring some clarity as to what's going on with your 'friends'
/r/seduction27/05/22 07:51 AM
10

Crabs in a bucket
/r/seduction27/05/22 07:16 AM
1

Ok, did you follow it. Did you have (at least) professional photos taken of you in a variety of settings of contexts? I ask this because I've noticed a trend (here at least) of people asking for advice, not taking it, and asking for more advice.
/r/seduction27/05/22 04:44 AM
1

Feel the fear and do it anyways
/r/seduction26/05/22 03:41 PM
2

Yes. If you give things away for free, like attention, they have no value
/r/seduction26/05/22 03:34 PM
1

I told him he did the right thing and that he shouldn't bang a chick that tries to sleep with random dudes when she's drunk. Too many red flags.
/r/seduction26/05/22 03:12 PM
1

No, not equal to men, or no, they're not children and are responsible for their decisions just like men are.
/r/seduction26/05/22 02:25 PM
3

Ask a guy when was the last time he got laid. If it was more than 2 months ago, you're probably just the girl he's breaking a dry spell with.
/r/seduction26/05/22 02:11 PM
3

So are women equal to men, in your opinion, or should they be treated like children in adult bodies who can't be held responsible for their own actions?
/r/seduction26/05/22 02:09 PM
-4

Lol, sure. Sounds like she really appreciated it.
/r/seduction26/05/22 12:35 PM
0

She came over and propositioned him. I'm not sure about you, but I tend to think that people are responsible for themselves, regardless if they are drunk or not. If some women got drunk and killed my kids in a car accident, in what world would she not be responsible? Same logic applies. So yes, he did the right thing by not sleeping with a girl who turns into a hoe after a few drinks. If he got her drunk for the purpose of sleeping with her, that would be a different story entirely. I'd find tha…
/r/seduction26/05/22 12:29 PM
2

Jesus this sub is filled with white knights. No wonder every other post is by some dude who can't get laid. Now you're all seething about some 31 year old who bangs 19 yos but can't even last 2 minutes. OP, the most you can do is invite this guy out for drinks, or invite him over for drinks, or maybe even tell him you want to cook for him one night (which will make you stand out from other girls). But tbh, it sounds like he's god awful at sex, as most guys are, and you could get the same or bett…
/r/seduction26/05/22 10:07 AM
2

It's wrong because it's not helping you.
/r/seduction26/05/22 08:10 AM
2

If you're not great at game, why are you giving advice? Honest question. I'm not great at tennis. Should I start giving pointers about how to hold a racket?
/r/seduction26/05/22 08:10 AM
3

Stop doing things that don't work
/r/seduction26/05/22 08:09 AM
1

1) don't tell a girl you're a virgin unless you're like 16. Even then don't. There's basically no tangible benefit of you doing so. 2) Where are all the cringey 'just be honest and vulnerable' guys when these posts get made?
/r/seduction26/05/22 08:06 AM
-19

He's butthurt and lacks balls. At this point he's doing the whole sour grapes thing. And probably pissed at his friend too. Kinda typical beta bitch behavior imo
/r/seduction26/05/22 08:01 AM
14

With flowers.... Are you joking? This sub is filled with shit tier advice.
/r/seduction26/05/22 05:40 AM
23

In short, you shouldn't. You had a chance and basically rejected her. Now, in the backwards logic of women, she'll rationalize herself into believing you aren't shit. Don't get me wrong, you did the smart thing (how many other dudes has she banged, probably without a condom, on a drunken whim?). But that doesn't mean you'll be rewarded for it.
/r/seduction26/05/22 05:29 AM
5

There should be a sticky about this: 'Telling a girl' 'how you feel' is lame and almost ever works. That should be the full content of the sticky.
/r/seduction25/05/22 10:16 PM
3

Did you actually follow the advice they gave you for taking and selecting photos for Tinder?
/r/seduction25/05/22 05:41 AM
2

Ok. When you decide you go have goals with relationships or women, I hope you'll have the same clarity and dedication to get there. Personally, I wasn't happy banging 6s from bars and tinder, or being dragged into relationships due to lack of options. The standards I set for myself did require work to get there🤷‍♂️
/r/seduction24/05/22 09:39 AM
2

Delicious is right. People - both men and women - are generally terrible at understanding why they do the things they do. There's a whole branch of psychology devoted to what people actually do while ignoring what they consciously think. It's, by far, the most scientific branch of psychology which exists. 'Nudge' is a good book that introduces this topic.
/r/seduction24/05/22 07:03 AM
1

No, I'd apply this to anything involving skills. (And you actually don't know anything about my life, how many lays I've had, the length and quality of my relationships, etc). You keep using loaded, value-laden phrases. My simple question is, are you actually reaching your goals or are you content with being a mediocre person who enjoys their mediocre life? Have you actually succeeded at anything requiring effort and growth? If there's nothing especially unique you've achieved, your opinion on t…
/r/seduction24/05/22 06:59 AM
1

As you grow up, you'll learn that actual goals are more important than 'just enjoy yourself,' and you'll learn to enjoy pursuing goals. Or you won't. In which case your life will be interestingly disappointing. 'Oh, I only got X because I consciously strove for it, I'm so depressed bc of it,'' said no one ever.
/r/seduction24/05/22 05:30 AM
7

Good job OP, nice write up
/r/seduction23/05/22 06:16 PM
6

That's actually perfect. Kinda what I was hoping someone would say
/r/seduction23/05/22 02:31 PM
3

I was speaking hypothetically;) I'll take this as an acceptable answer, but I was thinking of something along the lines of, 'tell 5 people "no" or disagree with them every day for the next 7 days.' As a side note I actually got some of the best advice from you years ago related your suggestion - make sure every girl you go on a date with but don't sleep with nonetheless walks away horny and wanting your dick inside them. I think you put it more eloquently though.
/r/seduction23/05/22 02:10 PM
0

Advice is often situational, buddy
/r/seduction23/05/22 01:59 PM
8

What's the action step for that? Assume I'm a guy who has a few hobbies, some friends, some of whom are girls, and I don't have any major physical impediment, but I'm still not getting laid. What exactly should I do to 'just be myself.' P.S. I've seen your content before and trust that if anyone can give a decent answer this question, it would be you. Not trying to be snarky. I actually think there are good exercises one can easily do to let go of the people-pleasing persona, but so far everyone…
/r/seduction23/05/22 01:58 PM
0

Lol, I've read basically every major self development book and minored in philosophy. Should we discuss Camus, Marx, or Junger. Sarte? Friedan? Or maybe Taleb if you want something more contemporary? I've had relationships that lasted 7 years. Been with my current gf for nearly 3. Also banged chicks who didn't even speak English on the first date. Your 'genuine connection' shit is lame. But good you for for being morally better than me, I guess, since that's what's important to you.
/r/seduction23/05/22 01:53 PM
0

You aren't wrong here. But given a choice between delusional positivity and delusional negativity, the guy with positivity will go much further. But ya, in the end, you just wanna be able to develop acute social intelligence so that you can accurately and realistically read the situation. OP was leaning toward a negative assumption, so I encouraged him to make the opposite one.
/r/seduction23/05/22 01:46 PM
1

Ya, after a while it becomes second nature. Learn the system, apply it with difficulty, it gets easier, you stop having to think about it as much. If 'just have fun' worked that well, every dork with a hobby would be rolling in pussy and have massive achievements. Life doesn't actually work that way.
/r/seduction23/05/22 01:44 PM
4

He went to a mindset coach ... Because he had an outcome in mind. The coach gave him a mindset trick to help him.... Reach his desired outcome. In the end, he obviously thought hitting home runs was more satisfying than quiting baseball and being happy having never hit another home run again.... When you have a system, it's much less stressful than when you don't. I'm telling you this from experience, both my own and every successful player I've known But maybe you are the exception🤷‍♂️
/r/seduction23/05/22 01:36 PM
13

I kinda make it a point to keep first dates capped at 1 hour unless she's forseeably coming back to my place that evening. You'd be amazed at how easy it is to set up a 2nd date when you do this.
/r/seduction23/05/22 01:33 PM
3

I teach guys how to reach specific goals with women You sound like the sort of dude who watches your crush get swooped by some other guy while bitterly laying back and complaining that he's a bad guy and she's a victim. Out of curiosity, how many nice points do you have to exchange for a blowjob these days?
/r/seduction23/05/22 01:19 PM
1

Pretty solid advice actually. You don't think girls stick around longer with guys who fuck them well? Or vanish quicker from the lives of guys who underperform? These are my observations from real life, not based on consensus of guys looking for relationship advice on Reddit.
/r/seduction23/05/22 01:13 PM
4

I think the thing with being 'outcome independent' is not creating a situation for yourself in which the outcome you want is entirely dependent on one person. But otherwise, in every single other realm of human activity, outcome is extremely important. I wouldn't go to a boxing gym and spend the time just fucking around because I don't have an outcome in mind (honestly, maybe some guys do this, and they are always the easy sparring partners) No, Id engage in work that brings me closer to the rea…
/r/seduction23/05/22 01:11 PM
6

So much bitterness in that lol
/r/seduction23/05/22 01:03 PM
4

This should be a stickied post. Too many guys throw up their hands at the first sign of resistance or objection, and assume they are somehow saving time In reality, they're dating down and only sleeping with girls who make it easy for them.
/r/seduction23/05/22 12:58 PM
1

Always assume everything is a positive. 'One, she's just being coy because she really likes me and wants to make sure for herself that I like her.' That should be your mindset on this.
/r/seduction23/05/22 12:56 PM
5

The simple answer would be to never be as invested and 'nice' to her as she is to you. Don't mirror her 1 for 1. Instead, mirror her 2 for 1
/r/seduction23/05/22 12:51 PM
-2

There's this too. If your d game is on point, a girl might cheat once or twice and then realize she's not going to do it again out of fear of losing you.
/r/seduction23/05/22 12:46 PM
4

Where are all the guys here who advocate 'communication' as the bedroom of a solid relationship? Here's someone who literally did just that and wound up worse for it. ... Tell your gf that she's not your gf any more if she continues to act like a ho. Then follow through on it. Or stop being bothered by it and simply accept it without issue. Either way, your self respect is at stake. And that's way more valuable than any one girl
/r/seduction23/05/22 12:45 PM
5

You're probably surviving on you looks and not really aware of the emotional cues you're sending through your body language. I'd also guess you are trying to do a ton of unnecessary 'getting to know you' bs. Girls around the world care primarily about fun. Stop being so logical and serious.
/r/seduction23/05/22 12:40 PM
8

I was trying to put it diplomatically, but you are 100% correct. It sad that it gets tossed around as 'solid advice' here, and it seems like quit a few people actually believe that it's good advice
/r/seduction23/05/22 12:36 PM
2

Seed the idea of something, get her to agree that it's fun/good then soft close on the possibility of doing it. Don't just randomly ask, 'do you want to...?'
/r/seduction23/05/22 12:24 PM
3

I'm all for treating hot girls like little children or old ladies. But, for the average guys, is 'dont be nervous' actionable advice? What steps would you suggest to talk to an 8 in a club in a non self conscious way?
/r/seduction23/05/22 11:46 AM
10

The better advice would be, 'do it until you are it.' Not a single skill or character trait you've ever acquired was gained by staying inside your comfort zone and 'just being you '
/r/seduction23/05/22 09:52 AM
5

My biggest gripe with 'be yourself' is that most people 'are themselves' and getting shit results with women and in life from it. Secondly, it's not actionable at all. It's feel good fluff that requires no thinking or discomfort from the person offering it, and it's useless in most cases. If it was great advice, and considering how often it's said, there wouldn't be so many men with shit sex lives.
/r/seduction23/05/22 09:49 AM
1

Ok. Pretend I'm a guy that hasn't had much success with women. I have a few friends who are women in my friends group, but I really want a relationship. What action step would you advise?
/r/seduction23/05/22 09:15 AM
36

Yes, everything is subtext and implicative with women. 'He's busy, so his time must be valuable and he chooses who he hangs out. Maybe he has other girls. I better fuck him.' 'He's always free. No one wants to hang out with him and he's low value.' Never mind if either of these are actually true or not
/r/seduction23/05/22 09:12 AM
2

Sure. Can you explain some action steps to follow your advice. It seems rather vague.
/r/seduction23/05/22 07:21 AM
3

Yes, small escalation moves are both a great way to show intent and gauge interest
/r/seduction23/05/22 06:58 AM
5

You know, anon, I'm going to give a modified version of this and your advice above a try. Thanks man.
/r/seduction22/05/22 07:46 PM
0

Lol, It's only a problem if you care about it or expect here to be cognitively invested in your life. 'Communication,' as you describe it, didn't get these girls in the first place.
/r/seduction22/05/22 06:39 PM
-6

Not something you have to do all the time. But if you constantly and repetitively say you were 'just working babe' or try to regularly explain the details of that, she's going to get bored.... Because she doesn't really care. Do what you want - what works or what doesn't exhaust you.
/r/seduction22/05/22 06:34 PM
-12

The simple solution to this is to tell her the most dramatic thing that happened to you that day in a way that's both exciting and light hearted. She wants to hear about your little victories, not the work you do
/r/seduction22/05/22 05:11 PM
26

Ya, it's kinda crazy They'll get with a guy doing amazing things, and not even really inquiry about any of it. It's not like you'd need their validation for it, but when it it's complete apathy on their part, you eventually reach a point where you realize she's kinda a time sink, and you could be spending time with someone who's at least more encouraging or perhaps even assisting you in some real way. If she senses this, her normal response will be to demand even more of your time. In that case,…
/r/seduction22/05/22 05:08 PM
8

Yes, girls are extremely self-absorbed and in their own world. They what to ask 'what are you doing' if they're bored, but it's more because they want to be entertained rather than caring. Edit: This also BTFOs inexperienced guys who are constantly trying to make a 'real connection' with girls.
/r/seduction22/05/22 05:03 PM
0

There are always going to be exceptions to the rule
/r/seduction22/05/22 02:54 PM
0

I calibrate without necessarily conforming. Here's why people think it's weird. If all hell broke loose, no one would have your back. You'd be basically defenseless. Likewise, it possibly signals that people don't want to be with you. Logically it doesn't necessarily makes sense, but it strikes on an emotional evolutionary one.
/r/seduction22/05/22 02:09 PM
1

Italy is Thailand for White women
/r/seduction22/05/22 02:03 PM
2

Find a coach or mentor with a similar personality/vibe/persona as the one you have or aspire to AND who has demonstrable success in the specific area or demographic you are targeting. There could be nothing more r word that trying to do things 'on your own.' If you want something, learn from people who have already achieved that specific thing, not someone who achieved something you don't care about
/r/seduction22/05/22 10:24 AM
1

Say 'sure thing.' Then, if you don't here from her, ping her with something light. Don't ask a question on your first text.
/r/seduction22/05/22 10:21 AM
2

There's videos on YouTube about grooming, exercising, and taking pictures. You have no excuse no to start fixing this today. Not sure how you are closing for IG, but you also might want to mention grabbing a drink and only closing as a means to do so. 'Let's grab a drink soon. Sound good?' 'Sure' (Take out phone, open IG and the search field, hand it to her) 'Put your name in and we'll work out the details over text.' More assertive and offering. Less permission-seeking and taking.
/r/seduction22/05/22 10:19 AM
1

So many dudes here are chronic whiners and wonder why they don't get laid. Stop thinking things that make you weak. Whenever a negative/disempowering thought arises, preempt it and consciously replace it with a positive/empowering one. If you can't even control your own mind, no wonder you feel like shit and no one cares about you.
/r/seduction22/05/22 10:13 AM
1

Men do prefer younger women. That's a reality. Women shouldn't piss away their prime years hopping from dick to dick and expect to have the same options at 28 or 29 as they had when they were 20 or 21. I know it's not fair. But then again, some people are born without legs or are horribly disfigured in accidents. Life isn't fair. Sorry feminism lied to you and you chose to believe it. At this point, the best you can do is work on your personality and looks. Be pleasant, hot, and not too demandin…
/r/seduction22/05/22 09:28 AM
1

Don't let the lame SJWs who barely get laid shame you for not living up to their cowardice and groupthink (I mean, 'morality'). There's a reason why 2/3rds of posts here are from guys who are obviously lost while simultaneously patting themselves on the back.
/r/seduction22/05/22 09:21 AM
1

You said yourself, this girl has BPD. She will bring you nothing good, especially over the long term. If I were you, I'd have fun but never consider being too serious with such a girl. If you want, you can tell her to change her picture, because 'you don't date hoes,' or just let her figure out for herself that the type of attention she'll get that way is very low quality.
/r/seduction22/05/22 09:16 AM
-2

This is key to relationship management as well
/r/seduction15/05/22 10:09 AM
1

Jesus no on the 'fun dates.' You're not going to be able to escalate at all at the putt putt golf course.(friendzoned or put on the slow pace to sex) The key with this is to hold back the pace and steps of escalation. You need to balance making her feel like she wants to go forward hereself while also making her feel comfortable with you as a something like a sexual teacher, if that makes sense. She kinda has to feel safe and comfortable with you, not on some dumb 'he likes the same books as me …
/r/seduction14/05/22 02:51 PM
1

I could make that exact same point of you. Why do you present yourself as morally above it all?
/r/seduction14/05/22 01:04 PM
0

Says the guy who has an extra IG account just to follow models......
/r/seduction13/05/22 05:03 AM
2

Yes, there are exactly two different types of goals in game. One is simply horniness and wanting to get laid as much as possible. The other is wanting to sleep with hotter and higher quality girls. Thanks for helping me making this point, you moralizing phag
/r/seduction13/05/22 05:00 AM
2

I don't actually disagree. If you have other important shit going on, you shouldn't be devoting too much time to game. However, many girls aren't simply going to be yes girls, and much of game is about turning maybe girls into yes girls. In some respects, it feels much more gratifying to pull the maybe girl than the yes girl, similar to how accomplishing anything difficult is more gratifying than accomplishing something easy.
/r/seduction12/05/22 07:47 PM
1

She's not attracted to you. Things can always change, but it sounds like the juice wouldn't be worth the squeeze. Stop investing so much time and energy into girls when it's not moving toward sex. Doing is putting yourself in the friendzone.
/r/seduction12/05/22 07:41 PM
0

So find a 'yes girl.' It's not a bad strategy for newer guys tbh, but it's not optimal game either. The best girls arent simply going to say yes to whatever you pitch.
/r/seduction12/05/22 07:14 PM
1

Bro, you literally said 'find girls who want to date you.' That's literally the definition of seeking out yes girls. It takes 10 seconds to send my text. He's not losing anything from doing it. She either meets him again or she doesn't. Obviously you want it to be under the best frame possible. Hence, 'wine.' Girls get hit up by multiple dudes a day. If you think this one text is really a big annoyance for her, I don't think you have as much insight into women as you believe. Even if she does fi…
/r/seduction12/05/22 07:12 PM
1

Again, your advice leaves him with a 0% chance. My advice gives him a 10% chance. Which sounds better? How would my advice make the situation worse? She says no thank you? She doesn't reply? He wastes 10 seconds sending a text? That's literally the worst thing that could happen. At best, they meet again for wine. If he could stop being a chode and pressuring girls for a 'relationship,' he actually has a small chance of closing. Like I said, you go for the low hanging fruit of yes girls while pac…
/r/seduction12/05/22 07:01 PM
0

How does that help him either with this girl or set him up for future success, except for the odd chance that he approaches a yes girl? Don't get me wrong. 90% chance this interaction is dead no matter what he says It's the 10% of opportunity that I'm interested in finding a way to capitalize on in a situation like this. My advice recognized that she objected to the 'relationship' part of his frame, while looking for a way to specifically overcome that part of her objection. It seriously get the…
/r/seduction12/05/22 06:51 PM
1

That not what I asked. I asked what he should do in this situation.
/r/seduction12/05/22 06:41 PM
1

You keep saying that my advice has no basis in reality, yet I'm the one who is able to get younger girls. While you've all but admitted that you're shooting after girls with higher notch counts. You also missed the content of her objection, which was specifically pertaining to a relationship and had nothing to do with sex. I'm thinking it's you that doesn't understand frame and subtext. I've yet to see you actually offer solid advice. What exactly was you advice again? Oh right, 'leave her be,' …
/r/seduction12/05/22 06:31 PM
1

Solid game =|= being direct and taking whoever says yes (while balking at any objection). Again, I know guys who do the direct verbal game. The girls they bang aren't particularly hot or valuable as partners. I'm not saying it's not efficient though in terms to the time-to-bang (when successful). All depends on your goal. But there's a reason why almost no one teaches that style though, and it's not because it's only you who's the real deal. Good luck recruiting students though
/r/seduction12/05/22 06:14 PM
1

Ok, well, I still don't see your point. I'm saying, 'try something like this. It's a slim chance that it will work but you have nothing to lose.' You are saying, 'give up on this chick and find some girl who is receptive to being direct.' I know exactly what sort of girls are receptive to that. They aren't they hottest, nor the youngest, nor the least experienced. Again, that's fine. But I still don't see your point, especially since I provided the caveat that he's in a bad position to work from…
/r/seduction12/05/22 05:59 PM
1

Have you learned the language in any country that has a conservative culture? If not, you're basically shooting for the small small fraction of local girls who throw themselves at foreigners. Nothing wrong with that, I'm Eskimo brothers with a fair share of guys on the party streets too. The last two girlfriends I had, including the one I'm currently dating, met me as virgins despite having had boyfriends they didn't sleep with. Have you ever fucked a virgin?
/r/seduction12/05/22 05:49 PM
2

Ya, like I said, it's a slim chance but he has nothing to lose. In some cases, blood. In other cases, I ask (and once made a girl get an std test after fucking her and realizing she wasn't a virgin) If I think I won't like the answer, I don't. Like I said, I tend to shoot for girls with lower notch counts. 6th sense I guess. I also live in a more conservative country than you likely do, so it's not too uncommon to run across university girls who are virgins.
/r/seduction12/05/22 05:38 PM
5

No, because I don't say retarded shit that causes girls to say they just want to be friends. The last time a girl said she wanted to just be friends, I said something along the lines of 'cool, let's hang out x day.' when she hesitated, I unfriended her. She immediately asked why. I told her that I'm not friends with people who can't make time to hang out with me. She then immediately agreed to hang out. Didn't close, most because she lived 30 miles away, was a virgin who was 10+ years younger th…
/r/seduction12/05/22 05:29 PM
1

Ya, you should try to get her out again. Text her something fun. Pump her emotions, invite her out
/r/seduction12/05/22 05:10 PM
5

The odds are slim since he already fucked it up. But it generally shifts the frame without getting into a frame battle while leaving the door open for sex. Also, it lowers the bar of compliance while also being cheeky. In my experience, it might lead to getting her out again and then he can run game to make something happen. Your answer wasn't terrible terrible, especially since he already blew himself out with the sappy first message. But I'd still give it a shot since he has nothing to lose an…
/r/seduction12/05/22 05:06 PM
0

I already commented it
/r/seduction12/05/22 04:56 PM
16

Dating is even harder when you complain about how hard it is.
/r/seduction12/05/22 04:54 PM
12

This isn't really advice that's useful. 'Give up everytime you hit a minor roadblock until you find a girl who is so into you that she practically does all the work for you.' That's what your advice amounts too.
/r/seduction12/05/22 04:53 PM
-12

Your last text was shit too. Generally, you are too explicit and need to focus more on subtext and feelings. 'Cool, let's split a friendly bottle of wine soon'
/r/seduction12/05/22 04:48 PM
3

Allow me to consult the tea leaves for you...... https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/un62yo/we_arent_tea_readers_we_cant_tell_you_if_some/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
/r/seduction12/05/22 04:46 PM
1

Great city for game
/r/seduction12/05/22 04:44 PM
2

'I feel like....' Why are you questioning advice from people with experience while coming from a place of no experience? This is literally why no one wants to help people like you. You won't even help yourself by trying something that is suggested to you. Instead, you'd rather sit in your room and question things based on you baseless feelings, and generally be an insufferable contrarian. To answer the question in title (which itself isn't a terrible question), relax your eyelids. No wide eyes. …
/r/seduction12/05/22 04:40 PM
9

She wasn't into him because he was moving too slow. Even if she would have noped out sooner had he made a move, he would have save himself the trouble of going on 3 extra dates that led nowhere
/r/seduction12/05/22 04:30 PM
3

You have nothing really to lose by trying to salvage it. There's a very slim chance it will work, but again you have nothing to lose. Just try to learn from the experience.
/r/seduction12/05/22 04:22 PM
1

Is this an earnest question or are you trying to make a point? Judging by your post history, you shouldn't be giving advice about dating. You should be learning from guys with success.
/r/seduction12/05/22 04:20 PM
7

You're not sexual enough. I could tell you that after reading the 2nd sentence
/r/seduction12/05/22 04:04 PM
2

There are actually 4 zones: Fuck zone Boyfriend zone Friend Zone Creeper zone
/r/seduction12/05/22 04:03 PM
3

Good job OP
/r/seduction12/05/22 05:17 AM
3

This
/r/seduction11/05/22 09:41 PM
7

Like I said, with some minor exceptions. 'What if I don't like him? Is he going to get angry if I change my mind? If I don't want to, will he force himself on me?' That's why. You'd be better off seeding the idea but also keeping it low pressure.
/r/seduction11/05/22 07:43 PM
9

No girl is going to verbally commit to fucking you before she's met you in person. (With some minor exceptions) Get that out of your head rn. My other thought is that you should move.
/r/seduction11/05/22 07:40 PM
29

If you seriously want to not waste time, invite them out on the first message. 'hey, you seem cool. Up for drinks?' Every girl is going to say they aren't there for hook ups. It's to make themselves feel like they aren't slutty.
/r/seduction11/05/22 07:36 PM
5

It's 50/50. Invite him out for something kinda innocuous but just you two (pizza and beer, for example). If he is flaky or non committal about it, he's not interested
/r/seduction11/05/22 07:35 PM
0

Let's check the tea leaves..... https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/un62yo/we_arent_tea_readers_we_cant_tell_you_if_some/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
/r/seduction11/05/22 07:29 PM
1

Has this sort of behavior helped you at all in your life? You are 24, live at home, and are a virgin. In your other posts on Reddit, you talk about being depressed. But now you want to defend yourself. If you don't see the problem with that, you are beyond lost. You are a worm who thinks they are a lion. I'm going to ignore you now, just like all the 'hot women in your life' do sexually.
/r/seduction11/05/22 05:33 PM
1

Play dumb more, virgin
/r/seduction11/05/22 05:27 PM
1

The ones guys who aren't you are fucking?
/r/seduction11/05/22 05:16 PM
1

The ones guys who aren't you are fucking?
/r/seduction11/05/22 05:15 PM
1

What hot women? The ones you watch other guys fucking?
/r/seduction11/05/22 05:03 PM
1

Ok virgin. You win the argument. Enjoy your prize: another night of sitting alone and touching your pristine pee pee while watching porn.
/r/seduction11/05/22 05:01 PM
17

'Someone chill to hang out and see where the chemistry takes us'
/r/seduction11/05/22 05:00 PM
9

Notice how this guy hasn't once responded to advice that he stop watching porn. Beyond that, he has the same deluded entitlement of a 30 year old fat single mother who is holding out for the guy who makes 6 figures and has a 6 pack. Guarantee this guy is a massive bitch irl.
/r/seduction11/05/22 04:56 PM
5

This dude is like a 30 year old fat single mother who's holding out for the ripped guy making 6 figures. Not going to happen.
/r/seduction11/05/22 04:51 PM
1

There are lots of drug addicts with jobs and houses too. Edit: why the f are you still arguing after you came here looking for advice to cure your virginity? This is what I mean when I say you have a massive ego which isn't helping you.
/r/seduction11/05/22 04:46 PM
2

Something sounds off. I've met guys who were decent at hooking up with new chicks but always got flaked on after. It's usually a sign that their personalities or lifestyles are a bit one-sided and too focused on game, and they come across as one dimensional. Not saying this is necessarily you, but I'd reflect on with this might be. You might also want to read up on 'deep conversion.' Krauser used to talk about it a lot.
/r/seduction11/05/22 04:42 PM
1

Have you visited any major city in the US or Europe? Tons of people milling about in the streets without jobs or houses. Almost all of them think they are smart, etc, and have standards.
/r/seduction11/05/22 04:25 PM
10

She's qualifying herself (warning you that her room is small and shitty because she doesn't want you to judge her for it) and saying she doesn't like to decide (meaning she wants you to make the move so she's relieved of any responsibility for what happens and can later say 'it just happened')
/r/seduction11/05/22 03:45 PM
21

This girl is begging you to fuck her and trying not to sound like a slut at the same time.
/r/seduction11/05/22 03:41 PM
1

Bro. I'm 36 and regularly hit on 18-20 year olds, and I often tell girls older than 22 that they are grandmas. This shit doesn't necessarily have to make sense. Quit trying to use rationality and logic.
/r/seduction11/05/22 03:38 PM
2

Not sure why this got downvoted. (Actually I am. Most the guys lurking here are beta simps who downvote anything that doesn't 'sound right' to them.)
/r/seduction11/05/22 03:36 PM
1

Good answer. You should definitely fuck this chick and then ignore her texts though.
/r/seduction11/05/22 03:35 PM
1

Let me consult the tea leaves..... https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/un62yo/we_arent_tea_readers_we_cant_tell_you_if_some/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
/r/seduction11/05/22 03:34 PM
3

Put it back on them. 'Ya, I usually like older women, but I'll still give you a shot as long as you're not too immature (implying she's the one who's too young for you).
/r/seduction11/05/22 03:32 PM
7

Option A. You can sleep with girls without even speaking the same language. Women will always backwards justify things: 'Why did I sleep with him an hour after meeting him? There was a connection!'
/r/seduction11/05/22 03:28 PM
12

Read sex god method
/r/seduction11/05/22 02:50 PM
5

He's a cuck
/r/seduction11/05/22 02:41 PM
1

This
/r/seduction11/05/22 02:39 PM
5

Say, 'sure, sounds fun!' Then invite 5-7 other girls to the same date.
/r/seduction11/05/22 01:54 PM
7

I actually sympathize quite a bit with you, and think you should have very high standards for women. The problem is, you need to start somewhere. Like I said in another comment, I'd practice with mildly attractive women with whom you can at least get off to without feeling some deep sense of shame. From there, as you gain experience and learn how to handle women, getting the girls you are actually attracted to will be much much easier. Personally, I'd set absolute rules (for example, no girls th…
/r/seduction11/05/22 01:21 PM
1

Do you really? Certainly not in the US.
/r/seduction11/05/22 01:17 PM
2

Nah, don't sweat it. You should be hugging girls first thing on a date btw. Break the touch and familiarity barrier asap.
/r/seduction11/05/22 12:52 PM
1

My first approach of the day is always shit and I usually get blown out. If I only ever did one approach per day, my notch count would be very low Moral of the story: approach more than once per day.
/r/seduction11/05/22 12:37 PM
1

I've worked at places that hosted dance classes, and I've paid for dance classes. 80-90% of the time, there were more guys than girls. This is at least my experience with Lindy hop, salsa, and bachata. Tango might be a different story. Likewise, maybe Europe and Asia is different. My experience in this is from Latin America and the US. Edit: OP should still try this. At most, he looses an evening.
/r/seduction11/05/22 12:31 PM
2

I'd narrow it down a bit. Exactly what type of people do you want to meet? Religious? Entrepreneurial? Funny? Technologically savy? Artsy? Etc. People are everywhere, but certain types of people are more likely to be found some places rather than others. Even if your goal was to meet girls, I'd still think it's a good idea to narrow and niche down a bit. If you just 'want to meet people,' you can always approach people on the street or at a park, and filter them out from there. Honestly, the eas…
/r/seduction11/05/22 11:36 AM
4

Lol 'i have standards. I won't work for less than $100,000 a year.' And then turn around and not have a job.
/r/seduction11/05/22 11:07 AM
6

I love when guys who aren't getting laid come here to ask a question, get an answer they don't like, and turn around an diss the person trying to help them. If you just wanted people to jerk off your ego, OP, you should have just said so. You literally said you were going to volunteer for the ulterior motive of meeting women lol. Like I said 'altruism as a sexual strategy.' good luck
/r/seduction11/05/22 09:56 AM
1

You should really streamline your process. For example, take every single date to the same place, one which has a good vibe for escalation, close to you place, and doesn't cost too much. That just solved like 3 of the problems you listed. Part of what you said also leads me to believe you are taking shit advice. 'Be vulnerable' lol Also reframe how you see things like shit tests, since ultimately they are a good thing (girls don't shit test guys they have friendzoned, for example). Your goal on …
/r/seduction11/05/22 09:48 AM
2

That assumes the class is actually filled with women and not an abundance of guys trying to do the same thing.
/r/seduction11/05/22 09:42 AM
178

Until you bang a girl, you will always be on the brink of the friendzone. Women backwards justify things Didn't sleep with him? It must be because there wasn't a connection. Did sleep with him? It must have been because there was a connection. Do you see how this works?
/r/seduction11/05/22 09:25 AM
2

As a quick note, UMP is one of the very very very few content creators on YT that I would trust for game advice. Take it from someone with experience, these guys know what they're talking about and aren't trying to sell you gimmicks or cheesy game
/r/seduction11/05/22 07:10 AM
13

Girls at dance classes tend to fuck guys who are good at dancing. If OP has 6 months and the patience to actually get good at dancing, that might work. But still, without game, he's just going to be the dude who girls want to dance with and nothing more.
/r/seduction11/05/22 07:08 AM
3

The good ol' 'altruism to get laid' sexual strategy. Take note guys: this is why you should learn game and forgo all the nice guy bullshit. No offense OP, but right now you don't have much to offer women. Find something you're actually interested in, and do that. If you can't think of anything that involves being outside of your house, that's your bigger problem.
/r/seduction11/05/22 07:08 AM
1

Not advice at all. And if that was the case, all he would have to do is take off his shirt and guide her hands to rub his chest.
/r/seduction11/05/22 07:04 AM
1

For some girls, yes. I've slept with a couple girls who refused to kiss me. 1 even after we slept together. If one thing doesn't work, don't keep trying it. Try something different. In my case, with one girl, I pulled her on top of my so she could ride me (with her clothes on). In the other case, I started rubbing her pussy over her pants. In both cases, we were sleeping together in a matter of minutes. If you go through my posts, I also posted a short guide on how to do for the first kiss. Edit…
/r/seduction11/05/22 07:03 AM
6

Very true. This guy who probably say that > half the chicks he follows on social media 'dont live up to his standards' if he saw them in real life
/r/seduction11/05/22 05:24 AM
6

Text 'Hey, that was fun,' then cut the conversation short after a few texts. (You are a busy guy with lots of stuff going on) In a few more days or a week, invite her to something fun and/or adventurous (hiking, concert, art class, urban exploring, whatever, just not coffee or dinner since it makes no sense for her to drive a long distance for that). Don't 'tell her your intentions' nor 'tell her your feelings.' Keep that to yourself. Or rather, demonstrate through actions when youre together in…
/r/seduction11/05/22 05:23 AM
9

Therapists make money by keeping you in therapy
/r/seduction11/05/22 05:15 AM
35

What standards? How many hot chicks have you slept with? Oh, right. Zero. You don't have standards. You have an ego. But you keep doing you, big guy
/r/seduction11/05/22 05:13 AM
19

You're 24 and a virgin. You're way past 'not being able to close the deal.' At this point, people are giving you solid advice and youre arguing with them because you think you know better. Keep doing what you're doing OP, since you think you know everything.
/r/seduction11/05/22 05:12 AM
18

Stop following hot girls on social media is good advice that doesn't get told enough. There's is absolutely no tangible benefit to following random hoes on Instagram. Normal girls (i.e., ones you meet in real life) see that shit and get turned off instantly. Ideally, girls should be following you without you following them back.
/r/seduction11/05/22 05:10 AM
14

Right now you are stuck with no girls. Find some chicks that are mildly attractive and practice with them without committing. Problem solved
/r/seduction11/05/22 05:07 AM
1

The simple answer is to give her less attention. Edit: I just actually read your post past the first sentence. There is absolutely no reason why you should be dating a girl who lives 2 hours away. Either make this girl an occasional fuckbuddy or fix the logistical situation. Edit 2: Ok. I read the whole thing. This relationship is doomed because this guy is needy af
/r/seduction11/05/22 05:03 AM
4

Because every virgin loses her virginity to the nice guy who waited. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😅😅🤣😅😅😅😅😅😅👇😂👇😅👇😭😂👇👇😅👇👇👇😎😉😉🤣😆🤤🤣
/r/seduction11/05/22 05:02 AM
4

I puked a little. Do not, under any circumstances, send that text
/r/seduction11/05/22 05:01 AM
1

His fear of rejection outweighs his desire for this girl. Edit: chào bạn
/r/seduction11/05/22 04:59 AM
3

You're friends and telling you politely to stop being a pussy. What do you do? You act like a pussy and come to reddit to tell your story to strangers. Seriously OP. If you were to just listen to your friends and stop being so cockshy, you'd have this chick already. Edit: Girls already have one pussy. They don't want or need another.
/r/seduction11/05/22 04:58 AM
7

Make your goal to make the people you're talking to have fun and feel good. If the people around you are feeling good and having fun, you likely will too. Stop being so self centered and focused on your own feelings. Focus instead in the feelings of the people you're with.
/r/seduction11/05/22 04:29 AM
2

No, I actually love being a man. I always found solace in the phrase, 'pray not for an easy life but for the fortitude to thrive in a difficult one.' Normally I would agree with you. There's little point in complaining that women have it easier in some respects. Most guys who do are loser incels. I just thought the myopia of OP and her desire for validation was funny and a bit tone deaf (she herself admitted that she had no clue what this sub was about before posting, and others also pointed out…
/r/seduction10/05/22 08:50 AM
2

Okay forever alone boy
/r/seduction10/05/22 08:38 AM
0

Not harassing at all. We're both part of this comment thread, and I'm simply pointing out simping and the life characteristics of guys who do it.
/r/seduction10/05/22 08:37 AM
16

She probably doesn't get enough attention from her boyfriend and youre the backup guy. Women love whoever is fucking them really well at that moment
/r/seduction10/05/22 08:36 AM
1

Simp
/r/seduction10/05/22 08:32 AM
0

Lol, ffs, you can't make up the sort of simp/loser dudes who are feeding this chick validation This guy mainly posts in r/survivinginfidelity and subs dedicated to different antipsychotic medications.
/r/seduction10/05/22 08:31 AM
2

With the odd exception of r/foreveralone, most of your posts are in subs about fantasy movies. Is that what you mean by 'get a life?'
/r/seduction10/05/22 08:27 AM
6

You wanted online validation. And you sound bipolar. The incels are the dudes simping over this shit. Let's use this as a teaching moment: Women will claim that men just want sex (as if that's somehow bad). Then if they want to put you down, their go-to insult is claiming you're an incel. Lesson: being desired by women is desirable. There's virtually nothing a young man has to gain from not sleeping with tons of young chicks. Women lack self awareness. She doesn't realize the nothing burger this…
/r/seduction10/05/22 08:03 AM
1

This is like asking how to play tennis. How do I how the racket? What angle should my feet be at? You'll only learn by doing (it), OP
/r/seduction10/05/22 07:56 AM
1

Relationship game is one of the most useful and undervalued forms of game, imo
/r/seduction10/05/22 07:54 AM
-1

You said yourself that you've been holed up in your apartment for months. So I guess putting on clean clothes and venturing outside was an accomplishment for you. And I never said you can get 'anyone you want.' Getting a guy's number is easy. Banging some dude off tinder or from a bar would be easy for you.. Getting a high value guy to settle down in a committed relationship with your r word ass is a different story.
/r/seduction10/05/22 07:40 AM
-2

Proud of what exactly. That's like me saying, 'I went to a restaurant with money and they gave me food! Yeah' Lol, you seriously don't realize how easy it was to do that yet expect people to congratulate you.
/r/seduction10/05/22 07:37 AM
-4

You could have been wearing a garbage bag and gotten a similar result. There is literally nothing difficult about a women getting a man's number. The fact that you think we owe you some sort of validation for simply crawling out of your apartment in fresh clothes is telling. But congrats for being a woman under 25 years old and not fat.
/r/seduction10/05/22 07:30 AM
-7

You just proved my point
/r/seduction10/05/22 07:24 AM
6

I know, but with much different results. You actually don't realize that virtually no one is rude or dismissive of young women. For men, walking up and awkwardly saying hi is usually met with a weird glance. For women, you can say almost anything and guys will still tolerate you. There was almost no way for you to fuck this up, except by being fat and unattractive. Sopolism is strong with this one. Edit: I almost think OP is trolling since few women are THIS r word
/r/seduction10/05/22 06:33 AM
22

This is one of those cases of women being myopic and believing that everyone treats men and women equally. Dress like a man and try to do that with a girl, OP. No saying it's impossible, but if you think even 50% of women will give you the same courtesy, you're mistaken.
/r/seduction10/05/22 06:05 AM
2

You just answered your own question. 'Havent done anything physical with her...'
/r/seduction10/05/22 02:15 AM
1

It's not about morals. It's about maintaining value as a man.
/r/seduction09/05/22 08:43 AM
1

Have higher standards for yourself. Don't be a trick
/r/seduction09/05/22 03:55 AM
1

Why are you 'pressing' girls to tell you if they're attracted to you or not? It sounds like you're more interested in getting validation. And I say you are gameless because your sole advice is to exercise. That shit is so baseline.
/r/seduction08/05/22 06:37 PM
2

Not my experience at all, and it's also much easier to revive a dead convo over social media. I've honestly never met an experienced guy in the game who takes numbers - with the exception being when social media contacts are added via phone number (Whatsapp, line, weibo, etc).
/r/seduction08/05/22 06:28 PM
5

What he said. Plus, why are you asking for a phone number and not social media?
/r/seduction08/05/22 06:02 PM
1

Aight. Did you actually learn anything from the experience?
/r/seduction08/05/22 05:42 PM
1

Get a diary. No one here actually cares about your feelings. The only people who say they care about your feelings... Well, they suck with women too. And talking about your feelings with women is ruining your chances with them. Act ghey and continue to spew emotional vomit at people who don't care - or be successful. Your choice. Edit: psychologists (usually broken people or narcissists themselves) have a financial incentive in telling you that it's good to talk about your feelings, since they a…
/r/seduction08/05/22 05:39 PM
0

Who told you that?
/r/seduction08/05/22 05:17 PM
-2

Every the last question you asked was an r-word question. You really couldn't have said something more boring. Reddit is lame and ran by t words, so I have to use coded language.
/r/seduction08/05/22 05:16 PM
1

This, except I'd add that in a state a nature, only a minority of guys reproduce
/r/seduction08/05/22 04:49 PM
0

Women are attracted to lifestyle and vibe. If you have to ask shit like this here, you aren't that guy
/r/seduction08/05/22 04:47 PM
1

No, it's because you are gameless.
/r/seduction08/05/22 04:45 PM
1

Thanks for the emotional vomit. This sort of lame feely bs is not helping you with women.
/r/seduction08/05/22 04:44 PM
1

I said 'd game.' Dominance, emotion, variance, presence is the checklist for great d game
/r/seduction08/05/22 03:09 PM
2

Lol. You're literally 57 years old scolding a 17 year old about being horny. Fucking cringey
/r/seduction08/05/22 02:42 PM
1

He's 17. If he was 25, your comment might have a small amount of insight. Otherwise, you lack any practical wisdom.
/r/seduction08/05/22 02:41 PM
6

Asking boring and r word questions
/r/seduction08/05/22 02:38 PM
2

People value different things. With women, if your d game is one point, she's not going to leave.
/r/seduction08/05/22 02:36 PM
1

Feel better?
/r/seduction08/05/22 02:34 PM
1

Losers go to brothels
/r/seduction08/05/22 02:33 PM
1

You guys are fucking gimps. Most people get laid without ever learning 'game.' The fact that your solution to wanting to get laid is to see a whore just indicates that you are at the bottom of barrels in terms of smv and game. Please fuck off, peasant
/r/seduction08/05/22 02:30 PM
4

Fuck you guys are losers. Don't get a prostie OP. That's probably the biggest bitch move you could do
/r/seduction08/05/22 08:39 AM
1

Gross
/r/seduction08/05/22 08:38 AM
4

The fact that so many guys hear recommend a hooker is telling as to the level of game guys here actually have
/r/seduction08/05/22 08:38 AM
16

Find the sluttiest girl in your school and run game on her
/r/seduction08/05/22 08:37 AM
6

Do not do this
/r/seduction08/05/22 08:36 AM
20

You don't 'ask a girl for sex.' That sounds like a homeless person asking for a dollar.
/r/seduction08/05/22 08:23 AM
2

90% of the probably guys dump here would be solved if they stopped being giant pussies and made a move. 'Does this girl like me?' How the fuck should I know, anon. Make a move and find out.
/r/seduction07/05/22 01:35 PM
1

Are you a girl
/r/seduction07/05/22 07:13 AM
6

'Hi, I'm using you to prove something to my friends,' is more or less what you said. Good job actually having the balls to approach, but I'd avoid that line in the future. A somewhat similar but better line is, 'hi, my friends over there thought you were cute but they're too shy to say hello.'
/r/seduction07/05/22 05:34 AM
16

This. In all reality, almost no guys under 25 have any social status in the wider world. That doesn't stop them from getting laid because status is often contextual/situational. That said, being boring and no fun, no matter your social status or lack thereof, will hurt your chances.
/r/seduction07/05/22 03:09 AM
2

I mostly agree with that. Just to clarify one thing, I wasn't suggesting that guys should be complete narcissistic assholes (I'd normally advocate being partially a narcissistic asshole and blending that with being fun, generous, sweet, loyal etc). That was just an example I used. But upon rereading my post, I can definitely see how it would come across that way. Thanks for speaking up about these issues. I 100% agree that guys should develop an awareness of how their actions affect others, and …
/r/seduction07/05/22 02:32 AM
2

Please run that 'clever' line you came up with, dork
/r/seduction06/05/22 09:07 AM
0

This is true
/r/seduction06/05/22 09:03 AM
2

No, you're thinking of 'clever' responses, whatever the fuck that means. If I misunderstood, clarify. 'hey guys, what if this girl finds out if not not a virgin. Btw, I don't care if I lose her since I have a rotation. Btw this is special.' Fucking nerd
/r/seduction06/05/22 08:59 AM
6

How does this girl not understand that your aren't a virgin? Do you put off questionably virgin vibes? And you literally said you thought it would suck if telling her the truth caused her to 'lose attraction [hint, you don't understand how attraction works] or break it off' And you're here asking about it. So yes, it's obvious that you do care.
/r/seduction06/05/22 08:55 AM
2

I wrote the correct answer in another comment: 'of course I'm not a virgin.'
/r/seduction06/05/22 08:54 AM
0

Agree with this. I've banged virgins on the second date and third date But the the idea that they thought I was inexperienced myself is unfathomable. This guy is a loser.
/r/seduction06/05/22 08:47 AM
4

What context? You know exactly what this girl wants. It's not the same thing as you, so you're willing to lie and make it seem like you want the same thing? That context? I'm not even coming at this from a moral framework. Your frame simply sucks: 'I'm the sort of guy who lies to woman out of fear of losing them.'
/r/seduction06/05/22 08:45 AM
2

Nice down vote, f-word Imagine being so low value that you have to lie to women out of fear of 'losing them,' basically living up to their worst fear. The most simple answer would be, 'of course I'm not a virgin.' I honestly hope she has cousins that find you.
/r/seduction06/05/22 08:41 AM
3

This. Imagine believing that a girl who is paid to act like she likes you actually likes you.
/r/seduction06/05/22 08:37 AM
4

Sub room temp iq question
/r/seduction06/05/22 08:36 AM
9

Ffs leave this girl alone
/r/seduction06/05/22 08:22 AM
5

And shave the back of your neck
/r/seduction06/05/22 07:37 AM
2

I'm sorry to hear about that situation, but it only reinforces what I always say: women should be ultra selective when it comes to men they date. The consequences for women making the wrong choice range from life threatening to simply wasting the best years of their life. Obviously, I think any mental, psychological, or physical abuse is wrong. I'm happy to hear that you escaped that relationship, and you should definitely warn other women about early warning signs of a toxic relationship. That …
/r/seduction06/05/22 07:28 AM
2

Ok D&D boy
/r/seduction06/05/22 02:46 AM
8

Tbh, if his parents act like that, they are kinda toxic and inhibiting his growth as a person.
/r/seduction06/05/22 02:20 AM
5

I'd strongly recommend reading through people's comments history. See what they say in other places to get an idea of who they are. Then decide if you want to take their advice. I'll spare you the trouble though. This woman is a post wall femcel. By her own account, the highlight of her current existence is living child free in an empty apartment.
/r/seduction06/05/22 02:17 AM
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In an evolutionary timespan with fewer competitive pressures, not really. The primary change is that society has become disgenic and humans less fit. But the basic impulses remain. Again, I'd urge you to actually research topics before you talk about them.
/r/seduction06/05/22 02:13 AM
3

Sounds like 'dark psychology' has worked on you before 😉
/r/seduction06/05/22 02:06 AM
5

No, that's actually a great point. This applies to men and women more or less equally. Thanks for helping me clarify that. However, I assumed most people in the sub are interested in understanding what makes them attractive to and successful with women.
/r/seduction06/05/22 02:05 AM
2

Humans have been around for over 100,000-200,000 years, depending on how you count it. Agriculture for less than 10,000 years. Your talking out of your ass based on popular perception, and I can tell you've never researched any of this.
/r/seduction06/05/22 01:48 AM
9

Take the skills you learned and apply it to a ltr while focusing on bettering other areas of your life.
/r/seduction06/05/22 01:37 AM
2

Genetic studies suggest only 1 in 17 men in pre agricultural societies had children. Monogamy (the egalitarian division of women between men), which first developed with settled farming communities, was effectively sexual socialism to make sure peasants were productive and invested in the well being of society. You're right about the last sentence though!
/r/seduction06/05/22 01:33 AM
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Two big takeaways everyone should take from this: First, quit listening to lame unhappy people who tell others what they should or shouldn't do. These people are losers who will drag you do to their level. Crabs in a bucket. Second, if you practice consciously at game, your results may come slow at first but you'll gradually be gaining skills and confidence. The end result is having the options to date girls you actually want to be dating. Congrats and good luck with the south Asian qt.
/r/seduction06/05/22 01:30 AM
1

True. The burden of performance is on men. That said, I would hate to be a woman. Their value is tied completely to their looks and, after that, their capacity to raise healthy children. Men are punished less in life for mistakes. If you, as a man, spend 6 years with a woman and exit the relationship at 28, you're basically in the prime of your life and can still easily date 18-24 yos going forward. For the woman, she's basically wasted the best years of her life, and by 28 her options in men ha…
/r/seduction06/05/22 01:26 AM
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Ya, you usually mature out of it and find other skills and hobbies to work on.
/r/seduction06/05/22 01:20 AM
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98% of men are either lonely and single, settle into a relationship that they later feel trapped in, usually leading to a divorce or breakup, or become so domesticated that even their girlfriends/wives won't fuck them.
/r/seduction06/05/22 01:18 AM
1

Lol. I read some of your comments. Your the sort of dude who will ask a super basic question like 'how do I build attraction,' receive a 5 paragraph response, and not even say thank you or acknowledge that someone tried to help you.
/r/seduction06/05/22 12:23 AM
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Lol. I read some of your comments. Your the sort of dude who will ask a super basic question like 'how do I build attraction,' receive a 5 paragraph response, and not even say thank you or acknowledge that someone tried to help you.
/r/seduction06/05/22 12:23 AM
1

Personally, I thrive from no-bullshit answers and hate when people blow smoke up my ass. If I have a goal I'm not reaching, I'd want someone to tell me why without sugar coating it. I would literally pay someone to talk to me like that. If you need 'words of encouragement' instead of the harsh truth, that's part of your problem.
/r/seduction06/05/22 12:18 AM
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Personally, I thrive from no-bullshit answers and hate when people blow smoke up my ass. If I have a goal I'm not reaching, I'd want someone to tell me why without sugar coating it. I would literally pay someone to talk to me like that. If you need 'words of encouragement' instead of the harsh truth, that's part of your problem.
/r/seduction06/05/22 12:18 AM
0

Every loser thinks they are the 'good guy' and those who actually get laid are bad
/r/seduction05/05/22 11:59 PM
0

Lol Loser
/r/seduction05/05/22 11:52 PM
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Lol, rather than defending yourself, you might consider improving your life. You're a broke 28yo who women won't touch, after all, who came here to cry. Literally no one cares about your feelings, especially because your such a loser. There's a reason no one gives homeless people a job. This metaphor applies to your whole life. You don't want help, otherwise you wouldn't be in the position your in. How the fuck did you make it to 28 while accomplishing so little? You're literally the reason the …
/r/seduction05/05/22 11:40 PM
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You are a worm and should be denied human rights. You do nothing but whine and cry like a little bitch. No wander women won't touch you with a 10 foot pole and you still live at home. Now please fuck off to a another subreddit. We can't help you. You've said it yourself. Go pollute somewhere else with your depressing aura. Yes, you do suck at life you pathetic f word. The fact that you think our lives are comparable, let alone equal, just shows how deluded you are.
/r/seduction05/05/22 11:22 PM
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You have a whole copypaste when you downvote someone?
/r/seduction05/05/22 07:27 PM
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Ummm. Try to sleep with her....
/r/seduction05/05/22 07:25 PM
19

No one cares. That's actually advice. No one cares, and you crying only makes you less attractive at your core. This post should be deleted
/r/seduction05/05/22 07:22 PM
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Women are attracted to pre selection. Confidence signals preselection. Literal non advice too. 'Do something else. That will attract women. Hur dur'
/r/seduction05/05/22 07:10 PM
1

Even though it's short form, guys on Twitter give better advice. (My link is in my bio) Reddit has two major problems. First, advanced guys aren't going to hang around here and answer the same newbie questions hundreds or thousands of times per year. There's literally nothing they gain from that. And people who use reddit are kinda ghey. The site is ran by weirdo gender activists. Guys who aren't beholden to the lame culture of the modern west tend to get banned eventually, so your left with SJW…
/r/seduction05/05/22 07:08 PM
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Your parents aren't stupid. They probably already can tell you and this girl have a thing going on. They were likely doing far more at a younger age than you. And for god's sake, change your avatar. That shit is fake as fuck and being scared of a virus is the ultimate soiboy tell.
/r/seduction05/05/22 06:55 PM
1

Most the advice here is dog shit tier. The fact that you're questioning it shows you either have more experience or are just more socially intelligent than 90% of guys in the comments who are just parroting what 'sounds right' to them given their cultural conditioning.
/r/seduction05/05/22 06:49 PM
73

What aren't you telling us
/r/seduction05/05/22 05:52 PM
3

Imagine inviting a large group of people into your country who hate your culture and people. Wait a minute... Kinda happens all the time. Welcome to the EU.
/r/seduction05/05/22 05:51 PM
0

If I put a gun to your head and told you to go talk to a girl, you would. Quit letting sucking at life be an option. You're not 'depressed' in some intractable sense. You have no goals and probably have a shit diet and lifestyle. If I lived like you, I'd be constant bad mood too. Fix that now.
/r/seduction05/05/22 05:48 PM
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Don't show interest like that on social media. It's a kinda low-risk/low-value move that any guy from India guy do. Just like her pictures on occasional. Use validation as a reward when she does something for you. Don't make your attention cheap by giving it away for free.
/r/seduction05/05/22 12:16 PM
3

Remove blackpill and doom posts
/r/seduction05/05/22 09:18 AM
0

We've established that you're the good guy. Enjoy the rotation of fatties and the chick with a growth hormone disorder lol
/r/seduction05/05/22 09:09 AM
1

I simply curious what type of girls you normally get. The 'can literally fit into baby clothes' is pretty weird. Not even sure how to interpret that.... I once banged a chick who was like 70-75lbs and 4'5", and that was a bit weird even for me, and she still wouldn't have fit into baby clothes... (Made her show me her ID back at my place lol) But I never sleep with (or really talk to) fat girls. I'm still imagining you asking a fat chick with a butch haircut if you can touch her.
/r/seduction05/05/22 09:07 AM
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How much do they weigh on average? Be honest. Low value guys tend to be conditioned in fetishizing fatties. It's ok if you think they're hot, but weight is an objective measurement. Serious dude, you're post history in other subs is hilarious. R/justneckbeardthings loooool
/r/seduction05/05/22 08:57 AM
1

Any guy who sleeps with hotter girls than you must be assualting them. Lol What a cope.
/r/seduction05/05/22 08:50 AM
1

Seriously, go back to posting in r/limerance about the girls you're fixated on (your words). Pathetic for researching if guys who claim to be good with women actually are - especially when it's obvious they are not? Ok 'Everyone has a good time' How many women have thanked you for sleeping with them?
/r/seduction05/05/22 08:48 AM
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Lol. Seriously, it's not that hard of a question to answer Lay count and percentage of them who were fat? Additionally, have any of them thanked you for fucking them or told you that you were the best the ever had? Waiting for that answer, Mr Wamman Respecter.
/r/seduction05/05/22 08:45 AM
1

Theme of your recent posts fall into two categories: -Women who have ghosted you -Women you've caught feelings for That was before you started deleting your recent post history over the last 5 minutes. As of now, you still seem to have some posts up in subreddits surrounding the LGBT and asexual community. So fucking cringey that you're here offering advice. Edit: we've already established that between us, you're the good guy. Enjoy your prize of fatties with butch hair cuts and the occasional g…
/r/seduction05/05/22 08:39 AM
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Not really. Every single man who can dates hotter younger women. Losers make a virtue out of following society's rules. You never did answer about your laycount and the percentage of women you've been with who are fat. You may not care about these details, but you owe it to other guys to know what to expect if they follow your advice. lol
/r/seduction05/05/22 08:34 AM
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Good game is getting women to comply and qualify themselves to you. Like I said, to some degree the line, 'how much do you want to kiss me' does this. Asking for permission doesn't.
/r/seduction05/05/22 08:31 AM
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Ok, I'll just assume it's a low/mediocre lay count with a high percentage of fatties. I'll keep 'assaulting' the 21 year old who adores me and weights around 100lbs. And having other girls literally thank me for fucking them. You win the nice guy prize. Congrats. Your reward: another post wall fatty who youre asking permission to touch. Edit: I can sympathize with wanting to avoid an assault charge. Here's how to avoid it. Get them to verbalize after the fact that they had a great time🤣
/r/seduction05/05/22 08:20 AM
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Very much your interpretation. And kind of a weird belief that everything must be verbalized, and that a woman can't be practically begging you to enter her without you asking for permission.
/r/seduction05/05/22 08:14 AM
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If you can turn her on by touching her, why do you need words Ever banged a girl who you didn't even speak the same language as you? Obviously not. I'm seriously picturing you 'asking' fat women with butch haircuts and armpit hair if you can kiss them rn. Lol so cringe. Serious dude. What's your laycount at 33, and what percentage were fat?
/r/seduction05/05/22 08:11 AM
1

You're a cockshy NPC. The funny thing is: 10 years ago, when I sucked terribly with women and was a leftist, I would have agreed with you and said the exact same thing.
/r/seduction05/05/22 08:09 AM
0

Are you 12 years old? You're literally just repeating the dominant cultural narrative. Are you hoping your crush is reading this or something lol
/r/seduction05/05/22 08:05 AM
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Lol. What country are you in and what's your honest laycount. Looking at your post history, it seems like you often catch feelings and are getting ghosted. It also sounds like you're reading from a magazine published by some fat lesbian and financed by a media conglomerate. Men who take charge are sexier
/r/seduction05/05/22 08:00 AM
1

And honestly, that line isn't terrible, but it falls within the concepts of building investment and framing her as the pursuer, not 'getting consent,' which is leftist nuspeak for asking permission. Under the latter paradigm, if she said anything other than a verbal affirmative, you don't have consent. And under that paradigm of 'getting consent,' you'd have to keep asking her until she said yes. At which point she's thinking, 'wtf is wrong with this guy.' If you've every ran than line and kisse…
/r/seduction05/05/22 07:45 AM
1

I'm simply not autistic and don't need things spelled out for me verbally. Understanding body language goes a long way. Obviously, if a girl is uncomfortable, stop. But verbalizing everything is cringe and ruins the tension. You're part of a generation that is having less sex than any other in recent history, even less than conservative baby boomers in the 1950s. It's because, collectively, you're pussies who have been brow beaten by strong wamman your whole lives. Imagine how many guys between …
/r/seduction05/05/22 07:39 AM
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With consent... 'Can I touch you?' Cringe
/r/seduction05/05/22 07:11 AM
1

Idk u removed the post
/r/seduction05/05/22 12:23 AM
1

That's fucking awesome.
/r/seduction04/05/22 11:15 PM
0

I wouldn't go so far as to say that. There is a TON of value from going out with other guys, having them watch you in field, and offering feedback. But no one is going to get that here.
/r/seduction04/05/22 09:37 PM
0

Honestly, it's kinda understandable. The paradigm that society pushes on people leaves them lost and confused. Worse, it makes a moral virtue out of being lost and confused. When you first encounter decent advice, it seems extreme. But if you actually care about results, you'll eventually realize that you have to give up a lot of cultural conditioning to get there.
/r/seduction04/05/22 04:52 PM
1

I live 12 times zones away from my parents. How about u?
/r/seduction04/05/22 04:42 PM
-1

Despite the click baity title, UMP is one of 3 active channels on YT I'd trust for dating advice. Looking forward to checking this out.
/r/seduction04/05/22 04:25 PM
0

Lol. You literally inspired this post https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/ui9yfe/to_what_degree_is_this_place_the_blind_leading/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
/r/seduction04/05/22 04:14 PM
0

Shit advice
/r/seduction04/05/22 04:07 PM
2

Again, dogshit non-advice. 'Dur go to duh gym.' Did you come up with that all by yourself?
/r/seduction04/05/22 04:07 PM
0

This is a great example of terrible advice from someone with limited experience with women. Seriously, why even offer an opinion on something that you obviously suck at?
/r/seduction04/05/22 04:05 PM
2

Keep in mind OP, 90% of the guys who post here absolutely suck with women. Getting downvotes is almost a sign you're on the right track. When you know you're going to be the best lover a girl has ever had, you feel less compelled to be some clown trying to sell your personality (or whatever). For the rest of you, if you've never had a girl tell you you're the best she's ever had, you're probably not that guy. D Game is a thing. But again. One shouldn't expect 90% of guys here to know that. Edit:…
/r/seduction04/05/22 03:51 PM
1

Nope, I actually agree with OP. When you're fairly certain you will be the best lay she's ever had, then you feel pretty confident in your game. Still learn game though
/r/seduction04/05/22 03:47 PM
1

'at work' Wtf is wrong with you
/r/seduction04/05/22 03:45 PM
6

Wtf do you guys keep verbalizing your interest in women? Literal Asperger's shit And that's hilarious that she asked if you're a virgin.
/r/seduction04/05/22 03:43 PM
0

Girls will like you if you're nice.... As a friend.
/r/seduction04/05/22 09:51 AM
0

No
/r/seduction04/05/22 09:01 AM
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Very simple. You tell her that you, as a man, can sleep with other girls. She, as a woman, must be sexually exclusive. If she doesn't like it, she can find a guy who is willing to share her. And then you enforce that boundary, even if it's 'not fair.' You still need to make her feel special, that she the only one who you X (buy dinner for, let sleep over, whatever). Women get emotional exclusivity. Men get sexual exclusivity.
/r/seduction04/05/22 09:01 AM
6

This. Too many guys try to get her body. When you seize her mind, she'll hand her body right over.
/r/seduction04/05/22 05:37 AM
3

Mistake one: coworker Mistake two: responding at all after she said she didn't see your text. Your best move is to never entertain the thought of dating this girl again, mostly as punishment for her disrespect.
/r/seduction04/05/22 05:29 AM
2

This girl gets it. I'll just add that having caked on make-up means I'm less likely to get physical with a girl, simply because I don't want it rubbing off on my face, clothes, and sheets.
/r/seduction04/05/22 05:26 AM
3

Women have a very poor inuitive understanding of what's attractive to men.
/r/seduction04/05/22 05:24 AM
1

If you search my post history, I have a short how-to on the first kiss. In terms of other practical advice, remember to keep your touches very light and delicate. Practice rubbing your own thumb on your arm at different levels of pressure, and see how it feels different.
/r/seduction04/05/22 05:21 AM
1

Pretty simple actually, and more likely to succeed. Only dorks need constant reassurance and resort to seeking verbal confirmation on everything. .... The simple answer is that you logistically and physically escalate.
/r/seduction04/05/22 04:45 AM
3

Dating apps have like a 7:1 ratio of men to women active on them. Simply put, it's not the best place to meet women. You'd be better off trying to meet people on non dating apps like Instagram or Omegle.
/r/seduction04/05/22 04:39 AM
3

How many online dating success stories did you read, especially ones that ended in a solid relationship and not just a lay?
/r/seduction04/05/22 04:17 AM
1

Have you read the sub at all?
/r/seduction04/05/22 04:02 AM
14

This is the right answer. People are often unaware of their own actions. She may not be consciously thinking, 'i better test his worth.' but on a subconscious level, that is exactly what's happening.
/r/seduction04/05/22 04:01 AM
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Two huge mistakes: You are putting the a relationship before sex. It's inherently unattractive when men do this. You are too focused on your feelings while ignoring your actions. Literally no one but you cares about your feelings. People only care what you do, and by extension who you are.
/r/seduction04/05/22 03:52 AM
2

Are you 12 years old or something?
/r/seduction03/05/22 05:25 PM
17

In terms of open-loop openers, 'hi x, do you know what I first noticed about you?' is much better. Its more personal. 'Are you ready' sounds a bit omnious.
/r/seduction03/05/22 04:23 PM
2

I can't speak for every guy. I'm personally very dominant, and kinda hate it when women try to take the lead in a relationship or in the bedroom. But, I've noticed that, because so many guys are absolute p*ssies, many women feel like they have to (until I tell them to chill out and let me do the work). That said - everyone likes what is hard to attain. I often use the analogy of an iphone. If I gave you a brand new iphone, youd probably be pretty happy. If the next day, I did the same thing, you…
/r/seduction03/05/22 04:09 PM
1

Ya, I'm pretty good at picking up when a girl has cheated on me as well. Depending on the situation (usually me being away for months at a time without a promise to return), I may let it slide. But even then it serves my purpose since I know very very few guys are as dominant as me in bed, and her sleeping with another guy on a very very rare blue moon only serves to reinforce how good of a catch I am.
/r/seduction03/05/22 02:37 PM
1

Gotcha. I guess I can accept that. I tend to go for girls with extremely low notch counts and focus on deep conversion, which precludes her sleeping with anyone besides me.
/r/seduction03/05/22 02:33 PM
1

Pro-tip: marijuana makes social anxiety worse. Have some self-respect and don't text this girl again
/r/seduction03/05/22 02:20 PM
10

About 1-2 years of semi-inconsistently doing street game, along with watching a dozen other guys try, some who were better than me and many who were worse. Really, having good mentors and wings was key. Learn from success. When I'm active, I do about 50-70 approaches per week, usually indirect and will gauge the situation rather than trying to close every set.
/r/seduction03/05/22 02:16 PM
1

About 2-3 years of semi-inconsistently doing street game, along with watching a dozen other guys try, some who were better than me and many who were worse.
/r/seduction03/05/22 02:12 PM
9

Stop lecturing about 'what women should do.' No one here cares. Not a single woman cares. It's your job, as a man, to make things happen - not hope that women do the work for you.
/r/seduction03/05/22 02:10 PM
9

This is actually a really good suggestion. Voice notes instead of regular texting would be another way to leverage his voice
/r/seduction03/05/22 02:08 PM
24

That's literally like saying. 'hey guys, I'm 6'5". How can I use this to my advantage with dating.' You already have the advantage. You're not getting laid because you're fucking other things up.
/r/seduction03/05/22 02:06 PM
89

Psychological issues and ruin a hard on, and worried about your hard on is the easiest ways to ensure you don't get one. Focus on your breath. I also have to ask. Are you actually attracted to the women youre banging?
/r/seduction03/05/22 02:05 PM
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It would be better if you wrote, 'are you ready' This is known as an 'open loop.' You tease an idea but don't complete it. She will naturally respond with, 'ready for what?' From there, you can continue the convo. I'd never use the word date, but if you do, say 'hot date.'
/r/seduction03/05/22 02:02 PM
1

And I would expect my girl to ignore them. If she doesn't, I accept full responsibility for either a) not being able to command respect or b) settling with a ho. She gets to decide if she wants to risk losing me. I make it very clear that her flirting with other guys is something I won't tolerate. Very simple. And no, I date date ugly women either. I don't understand how all of you guys are such cucks. This is why women don't respect you and rush into the arms of other guys. You're kinda patheti…
/r/seduction03/05/22 01:49 PM
1

Lol. Literal cuck.
/r/seduction03/05/22 01:46 PM
0

Are you 12 years old?
/r/seduction03/05/22 01:41 PM
0

Look at the studies on the correlation between happiness, long term partnership, and women's notch count. Simply put, women who sleep around are less likely to form stable relationships and find satisfaction in life.
/r/seduction03/05/22 01:41 PM
1

You went from being a cuck to queer. Congrats
/r/seduction03/05/22 01:37 PM
0

Lol. Pretend I'm a millionaire and youre a chick. What do you have to offer me, exactly? I can fuck any ho I want, probably one's younger and hotter than you. Do you really think I'm going to settle with some woman who would rather be a lawyer than raise my children and make sure my household is in order. If the answer is anything other than 'no,' you are naive, likely low value, and have been forced by your station in life to compromise. I'm speaking from a place of reality. You are speaking fr…
/r/seduction03/05/22 01:37 PM
1

Don't confuse not being enamored by and deferential to women with being an incel. Edit: I can see where you got that impression, especially given my last sentence. My opinion is this. Fucking a bunch of dudes is NOT in the best interest of any woman. However, if they're going to do it, I'd rather be one of the guys they sleep with than one of the guys they ignore. I can recognize when women are doing something that harms them without being captain save a hoe.
/r/seduction03/05/22 07:25 AM
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I guarantee I have a bigger laycount and bang hotter chicks than you.
/r/seduction03/05/22 07:10 AM
1

Literally all you had to do was send a picture of your arm petting a dog..... Or something equally as ridiculous. Next time, misinterpret instead of outright challenging her frame.
/r/seduction03/05/22 07:00 AM
1

Yes, ping her in a couple weeks. Don't bring up the fact that she ghosted you.
/r/seduction03/05/22 06:55 AM
2

The short answer is no
/r/seduction03/05/22 06:54 AM
6

Row v Wade was there last year, and the rates of sexless men were already growing. Perhaps this might cause women to think twice about being pumped and dumped by Chad while wasting away their 20s
/r/seduction03/05/22 06:52 AM
1

It's called having boundaries. You have none, and it indicates you're low value and would tolerate basically anything. You're like two steps away from saying, 'sure, she fucks other dudes but she's my girlfriend.'
/r/seduction03/05/22 06:40 AM
0

I wouldn't let my girlfriend chat with random dudes who are trying to fuck her. That's a straight up cuck move.
/r/seduction03/05/22 06:39 AM
5

You played the wrong move. 'Hey girl. I'm here waiting for you.' you basically made yourself look low value and like you have no other options. I honestly couldn't think of a worst thing to say.
/r/seduction03/05/22 06:37 AM
1

No, I mean simple steps like, 'stand like this,' 'approach from this angle,' 'stand this far away.' That literally just covers the seconds before you actually open your mouth. And all those things matter a bit. Simple steps. Work backwards. Your goal is to get laid. What's the step before that? And before that? And before that? Etc. Reverse engineer the process. Even if I put 'real info' on seddit, it would be buried in an hour by guys who are too r-word to use the search function or are just us…
/r/seduction03/05/22 06:04 AM
1

It varies a bit, but I try to have a single location where I take all my first dates. Usually a quiet cafe or bar that's also kinda dark with bench seating and isn't far from my place. Unless I think I can pull on that date, I never let it go longer than 2 hours. There's not much to gain from hanging out longer than that without pulling. Typically, I can get them to come over to my place for dinner (I'm good at cooking) on the 2nd date fairly easily. In terms of escalation, there is a sweet spot…
/r/seduction02/05/22 08:27 PM
1

I've read Sonny's book on IG game. GLLs style is kinda yikes, and the guy used actresses for his infields. That said, if you fit that archetype, I've also seen it work extremely well in nightgame. The value in MM isn't necessarily in its tactics but the general theory behind it, since it incorporates a lot of Evo pyschology.
/r/seduction02/05/22 07:37 PM
1

This is right
/r/seduction02/05/22 05:23 PM
1

You need to physically escalate
/r/seduction02/05/22 04:28 PM
2

Normally, I'd agree. I should be able to tell you how. But this was 20+ years ago and my memory of it isn't that great. I think we just started making out in my room, and she obviously had issues that caused her to put out so easily. I can tell you how I slept with girls more recently though. Generally, I'd say break things down into simple steps. If you have WhatsApp or telegram, it would be easier to relay all this through voice notes
/r/seduction02/05/22 03:55 PM
1

Yes. Think of how you act around a really really hot girl. A little nervous and quiet, right?
/r/seduction02/05/22 02:23 PM
2

Maybe 4 or 5. I found the sluttiest girl in my highschool (with a notch count in the 30s before she turned 16) to lose my virginity to. I kinda want to gag now just thinking about it, tbh. But again, you should be focused on success, not comparing yourself to others to prove why things won't work for you.
/r/seduction02/05/22 02:10 PM
1

Your social awkwardness comes from the lack of positive experiences (and probably a bit of mild trauma from getting rejected at a younger age). Here's how most guys game journey goes. They do game for 6 months with few results. After that, they may occasionally pull girls who aren't hot at all. After years, they start getting hotter girls, their standards raise. They eventually get to the point where they wouldn't even sleep with the girls they were previously pulling, simply because they know t…
/r/seduction02/05/22 02:00 PM
1

'inner game' is effectively meaningless in the sense that sub talks about it
/r/seduction02/05/22 01:53 PM
4

Good looks help primarily in the first minute of the interaction and the last minute before you sleep with a girl. Definitely work on your looks, get fit, etc. But don't think it's going to make everything 'just happen'. You still need to learn game.
/r/seduction02/05/22 01:52 PM
1

Reframe how you think of it. In my mind, there is no such thing as rejection. Either I did something wrong and take full responsibility (and try to learn from it), or we simply weren't a good match and I dodged a bullet. Is it kind of delusional? Yes. But try to cultivate thoughts that actually help me in life and my endeavors
/r/seduction02/05/22 01:46 PM
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Lol, why the downvotes though. This shitty seething attitude is probably one reason why people avoid you.
/r/seduction02/05/22 01:43 PM
1

I could if I forced myself to. But I'm an introvert and don't like gaming in noisy crowded situations where I feel stuck. Likewise, the type of girls I go after don't spend much time at clubs and bars. So part of it is due to my own temperament and what I'm best suited toward, and part of it is based on my target demographic. You might be different. Maybe you would be better at night game if your really enjoy nightlife and social events. But I can't really help you with that beyond the very very…
/r/seduction02/05/22 01:41 PM
2

It can potentially be good. People often have to balance out extreme characteristics that are seen as negative. If you were a 5'6" Asian guy, I'd tell you to act and dress a bit more like an asshole/toughguy/playboy, to avoid being overly friendly and nice. In general, women don't go after guys who are too nice and unthreatening. But they want to feel safe and at ease too. Because of your race (no offense) and height, you probably skew a bit more on the intimidating/threatening side. That's just…
/r/seduction02/05/22 01:33 PM
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No other comment necessary. This is the right answer, OP. Don't ask why. Just accept it and follow it.
/r/seduction02/05/22 01:22 PM
1

I'll add one more thing: I don't give advice on shit I'm not good at. Therefore, I can't really help you with night game or since it's not something I do personally.
/r/seduction02/05/22 01:20 PM
2

Tell me about today since it will be fresher in your mind and you'll recall more details. If you look at my posts and comments, most of it is very practical. I personally hate vague wishy washy 'just be yourself' inner game advice.
/r/seduction02/05/22 01:17 PM
4

You saw my last response. If you DM me with some details of what you want, what you're doing, and the results you're getting, I will help you.
/r/seduction02/05/22 01:15 PM
7

I just gave you something practical to do. You'd rather be an f-word and look for reasons to stay a loser. Seriously. If you log off right now, go outside and approach three women, and DM me with the results, I will give you genuine (non snarky) advice and free ongoing coaching based on what you report back. This literally is your opportunity.
/r/seduction02/05/22 01:13 PM
5

Right now. Log off, brush your teeth and take a shower, and go outside.
/r/seduction02/05/22 01:09 PM
7

When you stop spending so much time crying on Reddit. Every time you post in r/virgin, you become even less attractive. Seriously, what you focus on becomes your reality. [Inb4 this guy starts coping and crying more] Edit: 27 comments to r/virgin in the last day alone. It's pointless trying to give you advice until you quit hanging out in loser online spaces, talking like a loser with a bunch of other losers. Edit 2: Instead of defending yourself (which I know you will do), you should say, 'you …
/r/seduction02/05/22 01:04 PM
3

'Luck is when preparation meets opportunity'
/r/seduction02/05/22 12:44 PM
2

You are a 6 foot tall Black guy. They are slightly intimidated by you. Act slightly 'softer' and focus on building comfort.
/r/seduction02/05/22 12:38 PM
1

This is the golden question. All talk, no action. She's probably annoyed he's so shy, so she's finding a reason to give him a hard time. If he was fucking this girl well, he could be a virtual mute and it wouldn't matter that much.
/r/seduction02/05/22 12:36 PM
0

It sounds like she kinda likes you but you are too afraid to make a real move
/r/seduction02/05/22 12:33 PM
45

Your conversations might be a bit dry and too much like an interview. Try more cold reading: "Why do I get the feeling you study [whatever]?" Instead of "what do you study?" Also, make more interpretations. 'Oh, you study law? You must like to argue about everything.'
/r/seduction02/05/22 12:01 PM
1

Gotta up your hobo game, mate🤣
/r/seduction02/05/22 11:58 AM
14

How long are these interactions typically? When you are beginning, you should probably go for the number/social media close every time. As you get better at reading the situation, you'll know when trying to close is almost pointless.
/r/seduction02/05/22 11:57 AM
0

You can also get older women to pay for your shit and then dip out without sleeping with them.
/r/seduction02/05/22 11:55 AM
1

I've even found that girls who pay for their own drinks are more likely to sleep with you. The vibe I get is that they don't want to present themselves as a burden to you. That said, you should still offer to pay. Personally, I refuse to go on first dates that could set me back more than 10 or 12 bucks, even if I pay.
/r/seduction02/05/22 11:54 AM
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Approach daygame more as a skills building exercise and less as something your are doing just to meet women. These numbers are pretty decent for daygame. But given what you've described, it seems like you fairly attractive but your game itself is off - likely a bit too direct and eager and lacking a bit of social calibration. Make sure you are wallking away from interactions in a positive way. Even when you get 'rejected,' smile and tell her to have a good day.
/r/seduction02/05/22 11:45 AM
12

The OPs respond to this should tell you that this meme-advice is worthless
/r/seduction02/05/22 11:44 AM
3

Fair enough. Sorry to hear about the wasted education. I studied something as or more useless - so I feel you there. How the kiss should be Fairly short, not too aggressive, and you pull away to end the kiss before she does. You can test the waters with something like a kiss to the forehead/cheek/neck/ears. Or, if she seems down, you can go for a short french kiss. Don't jam your tongue far down her throat. Don't make out too heavy in public (unless you're a teenager in a liberal country) or the…
/r/seduction02/05/22 07:35 AM
3

Vocal tonality in how you say it will have a huge impact. It's kinda hard to explain, but keep it vague and succinct. Her: 'what do you do.' You: 'I'm a streamer (downward tonality with no attempt to explain further or justify your choice of work)' You need to say it almost as if you think she'll think it's normal.
/r/seduction02/05/22 07:28 AM
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Seriously OP. At your engineering job, do you bug your coworkers by asking them questions that could be answered by Google or stack overflow. I really hope not. https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/uflv21/4_ways_to_go_for_the_first_kiss/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Literally posted yesterday
/r/seduction02/05/22 07:25 AM
1

This question has been asked 5 times in the last 2 days Perhaps the same mindset that causes you to ask the question rather than searching out the answer is also why you suck with women.
/r/seduction02/05/22 07:20 AM
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Lol, you already taken more action that half the guys here. Be proud of yourself for that. Growth comes through doing uncomfortable things.
/r/seduction02/05/22 05:17 AM
3

Basically this. I've had girls I hooked up with 2 years after approaching them, basically by texting them once every 6 months. That said, I've found these girls worthless for anything more than a lay.
/r/seduction02/05/22 04:09 AM
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Maybe it's a generational thing, but 'baddies' is one of the most r-word terms I've ever heard. In conjures in my mind Arabs and Black dudes who date entitled fat girls they think are 10s.
/r/seduction02/05/22 04:06 AM
1

The obvious answer is to meet women offline, where she doesn't have guys constantly hitting on her. Those 6s from online have their own problems - namely, they keep hooking up with guys like you, hoping to land a solid guy, only to be tossed aside and ghosted.
/r/seduction02/05/22 04:04 AM
3

Now just combine the bad boy attitude with a somewhat attractive lifestyle, and you'll be set
/r/seduction02/05/22 04:01 AM
1

This is the correct answer, OP
/r/seduction02/05/22 03:59 AM
2

A 1% hit rate is a realistic average for daygame (100 approaches to 1 lay) I told that guy he should spend more that 40 seconds in in interactions so that he had a lower flake rate, and he argued with me. So there that's. But ya, if you autistically spam approach like that, your conversion rate is going to be abysmal
/r/seduction02/05/22 03:12 AM
3

Of course looks matter... But haven't you read this sub. There's like 3 posts per day from fit guys hovering near 6 foot or above who are absolute shit with women. Conversely, there are guys who don't have anything special about them who are swooping thin non-slutty chicks 10 years younger than them. You can have great looks and still have abysmal results with women. I honestly feel like some of you are retarded and need to be explicitly told to work out, smell good, fix their money situation, a…
/r/seduction01/05/22 06:19 PM
3

Sure, but the whole point of learning game is to get girls who would normally be out of your league. And once you start regularly dating those girls, they are now in your league.
/r/seduction01/05/22 05:35 PM
1

Good game is making the girl work for your affection
/r/seduction01/05/22 05:33 PM
2

By doing day/street game instead of night game. You literally have to force yourself to approach to get over the hurdle of paralyzing approach anxiety. One thing I've done is consciously amplifying the pain of no taking action. If I see a girl I want to approach but don't, I'll internally start shit talking myself, calling myself a pussy and coward. This pushes me to avoid the pain the next time I see a girl I want to approach. Tldr: amplify the psychological pain of inaction to the point where …
/r/seduction01/05/22 05:24 PM
1

It can be as simple as turning your head away from a girl. In essence, you are giving her an opportunity to qualify herself to you while showing that you aren't too easy for her to get.
/r/seduction01/05/22 05:22 PM
3

You're too passive and waiting for something to happen. Men make things happen
/r/seduction01/05/22 05:16 PM
1

Literally posted about this yesterday. Try searching instead of asking a question that's been asked here a gazillion times
/r/seduction01/05/22 04:54 PM
9

The simple solution is to ignore women you aren't attracted to and only approach women who you are attracted to.
/r/seduction01/05/22 04:30 PM
3

Loser cope
/r/seduction01/05/22 04:29 PM
4

Read Mystery Method and Minimal Game. Very little fluff and all practical advice.
/r/seduction01/05/22 04:28 PM
3

Are you 12?
/r/seduction01/05/22 12:43 PM
1

It would help if we could see the texts. If you want, dm me
/r/seduction01/05/22 07:14 AM
2

What options? Loser dudes who fall in love with them on the 2nd date and shower them with free (i.e., worthless) attention? Those options? I've even made this clear to women - I will date as many women as I want, while they will be exclusive to me. If they don't like it, they can find some dude who so desperately just wants 'a' girlfriend. That usually shuts them up.
/r/seduction01/05/22 06:52 AM
3

Oh god, That's a huge one too. Guys who 'want a relationship' an invest a ton right away. Thinking that being nonsexual and nice is another big one
/r/seduction01/05/22 06:48 AM
5

1) Overly serious and logical 2) Poor vocal tonality and talking to fast 3) Smiling too much in a nervous way 4) Talking about pointless shit/talking to much 5) No physicality or sexual tension 6) Not pulling the trigger or making something happen when the opportunity is there I would say those are some of the biggest newbie/beginner mistakes of guys who actually talk to women. Most guys are simply afraid of talking to women, usually because they've been conditioned to think it's bad or creepy.
/r/seduction01/05/22 06:45 AM
1

Day game primarily
/r/seduction01/05/22 06:39 AM
1

What do you want - a step by step guide on how to game?
/r/seduction01/05/22 06:39 AM
1

Don't escalate so much in public. You're communicating that if they come back, sex is inevitable. It ruins the fun and puts tons of pressure on her.
/r/seduction01/05/22 06:24 AM
3

Get off tinder and meet people in real life
/r/seduction01/05/22 06:21 AM
2

Not a fan of asking explicitly, but you do you
/r/seduction01/05/22 02:45 AM
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Lol, I kinda wish I was again. I date much hotter girls now though.
/r/seduction01/05/22 12:53 AM
8

I'd whisper something kinda neggy and non serious. Definitely not a compliment. All of them work. If you get rejected, just smile and pretend like nothing happened. I'd use 3 if I'm already close and cuddling with a girl on a couch.
/r/seduction01/05/22 12:22 AM
3

I take the exact opposite approach. Everything is my responsibility in the interaction. This insures I'm doing things consciously and improving my game rather than just saying 'oh well I guess it didn't work out.'
/r/seduction30/04/22 11:31 PM
3

Ya, one of those guys who comes here to complain, you try to help, and they lash out. No wonder his social life is shit
/r/seduction30/04/22 11:01 PM
-1

Lol, are you still trying to put me down to make yourself feel better?
/r/seduction30/04/22 11:00 PM
1

This, guy seems butthurt abt something. Obviously don't tolerate disrespectful hoes. But don't be a stodgy bore and killjoy either.
/r/seduction30/04/22 10:54 PM
1

'women should....' Quit reading
/r/seduction30/04/22 10:53 PM
3

Damn, I read that wrong..... Lol my bad Try using voice notes instead of texting
/r/seduction30/04/22 10:50 PM
10

For someone who sucks so badly with women, you sure think you know a lot about relationships https://metro.co.uk/2019/02/22/men-regardless-age-will-always-attracted-women-early-20s-8718590/ You came here crying about how you've given up with women, remember?
/r/seduction30/04/22 10:46 PM
3

Cold reading can also be learned. How retarded are you that you believe palm reading is real lol.
/r/seduction30/04/22 10:44 PM
2

Outside of building looks and social value, key things that make a guy attractive in the moment are as follows: Eye contact Posture Vocal tonality Slow and controlled movement (not jerky or fidgety) If you only worked on those 4 things, you get more interest from women. All of this stuff is very basic and comes before verbal game and talking. If you don't have these things down, witty verbals won't get you too far.
/r/seduction30/04/22 10:33 PM
14

Huh? You realize all men find 18-24yos most attractive, right? People may lie about it, but search queries and data from dating websites don't Me: decent laycount and can't remember the last time I banged an ugly or fat chick. Also in an LTR with a girl who adores me. You: Struggling to find a connection and crying about how you've given up with women. This is the point where you put your ego aside
/r/seduction30/04/22 10:29 PM
1

I've studied how to do palm readings. It's just cold reading.
/r/seduction30/04/22 10:24 PM
1

Have you tried searching this subreddit?
/r/seduction30/04/22 10:22 PM
-3

Are you trying to hook up with your cousin?
/r/seduction30/04/22 10:20 PM
19

Why would I? Younger girls are more attractive and often have more pleasant personalities.
/r/seduction30/04/22 10:18 PM
-1

Yes and no. People are fairly predictable because they are largely the same. That's how shit like palm reading and astrology works - by bringing up things that are fairly universal for all people. That said, men and women think differently about relationships and have different unconscious drives. So again, after reading countless stories of guys 'just wanting a connection' but failing and other guys who 'just want to get laid' and succeeding at that and finding connections, you've failed to rec…
/r/seduction30/04/22 10:16 PM
1

Ya, kinda. Don't do something dumb like be too direct or sexual verbally. But ya, treat her like a normal girl and basically ignore the other guy.
/r/seduction30/04/22 10:12 PM
10

Around 15 years younger than me, thin, submissive, feminine, sweet.
/r/seduction30/04/22 10:10 PM
2

This sort of inner game mental masterbation isn't necessarily helpful. Improving yourself is baseline. Otherwise, there's nothing practical in this post
/r/seduction30/04/22 10:07 PM
1

Wtf is wrong with u?
/r/seduction30/04/22 10:05 PM
1

Every single girl is secretly in love with some guy
/r/seduction30/04/22 10:03 PM
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Everyone else should take note. Just wanting 'a connection' is a losing strategy for men, as evidenced by OP. Meanwhile, guys who just want to get laid are doing ok with women. I honestly can't understand how so many guys come here with the exact same story yet fail to read all the other stories. Do you honestly think your situation is somehow different from all the other sexless dudes who say the exact same thing?
/r/seduction30/04/22 10:02 PM
50

I like sleeping with attractive women
/r/seduction30/04/22 09:59 PM
2

Numbers is the goal?
/r/seduction30/04/22 09:42 PM
3

When I can't think of anything to say, I apply one of two approaches A) I'll say the boldest thing I think I can get away with. B) I'll escalate (emotionally, logistically, or physically). This latter approach ensures you are always moving things forward.
/r/seduction30/04/22 09:40 PM
8

Stop doing direct approaches. It's a newbie way that has a huge flake rate. Indirect and situational approaches are less likely to come off as saleman like
/r/seduction30/04/22 09:38 PM
11

Ok, I'm just telling you my experience trying to do shotgun style mass approaches and short interactions. Led to a lot of social media closes and very few dates. In my experience, as I originally said, 2-10 minutes is optimum if I want to see the girl again and can't do an instadate.
/r/seduction30/04/22 09:34 PM
1

You aren't clear in your goals and stated you aren't trying to hook up with her. Sounds like this post belongs in a more generic social skills subreddit
/r/seduction30/04/22 09:29 PM
32

40 second interactions are probably why your flake rate is so high. I've tried that method and gotten similar results. Go for slightly longer interactions in the 2-10 minute range and go for instadates if you can.
/r/seduction30/04/22 09:26 PM
1

Was going to offer advice, but you're in the wrong sub
/r/seduction30/04/22 09:17 PM
1

I understand. I just think a) you can't reasonably expect many women to act like mature adults, especially when dating, and b) you are avoiding responsibility for being so boring or unattractive to this woman that she ghosted you on the first date. Did you ever stop to ask yourself, from her perspective, why she left you like that. There had to be some reason. Most likely, you simply didn't live up to her expectations. And I already told you the answer. This girl wanted to get fucked. You took h…
/r/seduction30/04/22 08:30 PM
1

I ask that because a) I don't think you can search for married couples on FB, b) who tf wants to get married in their 20s anyways and c) women hit the wall harder and younger, so it makes sense a wife's looks would degrade far faster than her husband's.
/r/seduction30/04/22 08:19 PM
-1

Ya, you're still moralizing and telling us what you think women should do. Like I said, have personal standards, but don't be surprised or upset when people don't live up to them.
/r/seduction30/04/22 08:18 PM
2

The dude putting down your lay count is probably thinking about the fatties he's stuck his dick in and reappraising his philosophy
/r/seduction30/04/22 08:16 PM
2

One 8 > four 5s
/r/seduction30/04/22 08:10 PM
1

Are you from India?
/r/seduction30/04/22 08:07 PM
1

It's probably because they have decent game. Dressing well and looking good helps, and people should do it. But if you think that's the magic bullet, I feel sorry for you.
/r/seduction30/04/22 07:45 PM
1

Lol Imagine thinking that women care as much about looks as a guy. For women, a guys looks are just a way to evaluate his social status.
/r/seduction30/04/22 07:37 PM
1

Personality and identity are very different Who I am isn't some metric of 4 common personality traits.
/r/seduction30/04/22 07:19 PM
1

Don't say something 'doesnt work' until you've tried it a few times
/r/seduction30/04/22 07:10 PM
1

You can certainly go on dates and even get laid while communicating through Google translate. In some ways it's even easier since you have more time to think as your typing (compared to just speaking). Will it be a very deep and meaningful relationship . No
/r/seduction30/04/22 07:08 PM
2

You realize 'who you are' isn't something fixed, right?
/r/seduction30/04/22 07:01 PM
1

So shedding one's old insecure self? I think we basically agree. Id just say that being shy and insecure is who many guys are. And, through action, they need to change that to the point where who they show up as is attractive
/r/seduction30/04/22 06:23 PM
1

I agree. But that seems to imply they need to change themselves through action.
/r/seduction30/04/22 06:18 PM
1

What does any of that have to do with women, their perspective, and the way they operate?
/r/seduction30/04/22 06:15 PM
5

But for guys who have social anxiety or fear being judged (i.e., it's part of themselves to be nervous), how does that help. I give you a hard time because that advice to 'just be yourself' is practically worthless for beginners. It's girl-tier dating advice.
/r/seduction30/04/22 06:13 PM
10

Honestly, it kinda sounds like 'being yourself' is a meaningless buzzword if it is a habit or trait one has to practice. How does one 'act like themselves' What does 'being yourself' even mean. Isn't the shy nervous guy 'being himself' by being shy and nervous.
/r/seduction30/04/22 06:10 PM
5

If you have to practice 'being yourself,' are you really 'being yourself'
/r/seduction30/04/22 06:05 PM
1

Moralizing and telling/thinking what girls 'should do.' How's that working for you. Girls hate confrontation. You have unrealistic expectations.
/r/seduction30/04/22 06:00 PM
4

No, haven't you read this sub before. Every single shy guy who finally works up the balls to 'tell' a girl how he feels gets rejected.
/r/seduction30/04/22 05:54 PM
2

A couple methods: 1) If you're afraid of being rejected: tell her you're going to tell her a secret, and lean in to whisper something in her ear. If she pulls away when you do this, she will reject you for the kiss. Whisper something like, 'you're dumb' and go back to the convo. It will throw her a bit through a loop and you just saved yourself from rejection. If she doesn't pull away, she probably won't reject the kiss. 2) mid conversation, out of nowhere, say something like 'are you a good kis…
/r/seduction30/04/22 05:42 PM
-1

Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolllllll
/r/seduction30/04/22 05:33 PM
-1

Why was it pathetic what she did? It would have been more pathetic to hang around a group of people and at a place where she didn't want to be, doing something which was boring to her. What she should have said? 'Sorry OP, I just realized you're either not attractive or not going to make a move. Bye.'
/r/seduction30/04/22 05:31 PM
1

Your definition of fun is hanging out at a bar. Hers was getting fucked. She showed up and realized you weren't going to be a fun time, that you are cock shy, and probably a bit immature in your tastes.. She left rather than (in her eyes) waste the night with you.
/r/seduction30/04/22 05:29 PM
1

Reddit is the home of nerds and simps: guys in such scarcity that their biggest ambition with women is just to find one who gives them affection. That's why. I find it hilarious because that mindset disqualifies you with most women.
/r/seduction30/04/22 05:24 PM
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Listen to this and ignore everyone else, OP Edit: the only thing I'd add is that the quality of girls matters. Hot girls don't date guys who date ugly girls.
/r/seduction30/04/22 05:14 PM
5

A lot of this sub is like that lol
/r/seduction30/04/22 05:12 PM
2

All solid points.
/r/seduction30/04/22 04:30 PM
2

That last part is super solid advice!
/r/seduction30/04/22 04:29 PM
2

I honestly wish this could be pinned. You have no idea how many times I've seen 'chad' on dinner date going nowhere.
/r/seduction30/04/22 04:27 PM
1

Just assume it always is a seductive look
/r/seduction30/04/22 06:05 AM
11

It's natural. Spend time thinking about the worst possible thing that could happen if you talk to a girl like that. Then do it anyways.
/r/seduction30/04/22 06:03 AM
0

Have you considered natural ways of raising your test levels?
/r/seduction30/04/22 05:58 AM
5

Lol. I'm in my late 30s. I'm pretty sure I know who I am. I'm just not autistic enough to believe its appropriate to present myself the exact same way in all situations. Nor am I young or naive enough to think identity is static. But keep giving 'advice' to guys with tons more experience than you, if it makes you feel better.
/r/seduction30/04/22 05:56 AM
-1

I agree with this. The designation of 'chad' is usually a cope by losers to explain away their loserdom 'muh (sniffle sniffle) I was born with the wrong genetics (blows nose into tissue).
/r/seduction30/04/22 05:48 AM
1

Yes, n.a., yes
/r/seduction30/04/22 05:43 AM
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Hardly a chad, but I once hooked up with a girl who had a bf who she was cheating on with my friend. My friend was in my living room listening the whole time and her bf showed up at my apartment as well. I basically yelled at him to go away after he had already heard me banging his chick (my friend was kinda loser and cool with the situation). About an hour into the smash session, her best friend shows up and is like, 'wtf is going on, your boyfriend is freaking out.' She was also pregnant at th…
/r/seduction30/04/22 05:40 AM
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'just be yourself' is both the best and worst advice. Moreover, thinking there is some static true version of 'yourself' is dumb. It sounds good though
/r/seduction30/04/22 05:30 AM
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You should go to the gym for its own sake. No one, and I mean no one, respects a weak man. That said, without learning game, raising your SMV will only get you so far. There are tons of fit guys who have no clue about women.
/r/seduction30/04/22 05:26 AM
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Yes! Pick a demographic and make yourself attractive to that demographic. And be willing to be polarizing.
/r/seduction30/04/22 04:06 AM
2

True
/r/seduction30/04/22 04:04 AM
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Ambitious goal: check Optimistic attitude: check I think you'll be fine. Game gets easier as you get older since your social value typically grows with time and as you gain more real world experience.
/r/seduction30/04/22 04:03 AM
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Certainly. Personally, I only offer advice on things I'm well experienced in and have had a decent amount of success at. That's why you'll never see me opine or giving advice about 'marriage level' LTRs in which creating a stable child-rearing environment or lifelong relationship is the goal. Simply put, I know I'm not experienced enough in those areas to offer a good opinion. I'm excellent in deep conversion and relationship management in some respects. But not when it comes to certain types of…
/r/seduction30/04/22 03:29 AM
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Stopped (doing something challenging) and giving up are pretty close, my friend. If I did boxing for 2 years and stopped, another way to phrase that is that I've 'given up' boxing training. Back to my original point: you have far too little experience in this realm of endeavor for me to take your advice seriously. It would be like a 15 year boxing veteran listening to a guy who once did boxing for a couple years. But keep telling yourself your opinion on this topic is equally valid lol
/r/seduction30/04/22 02:52 AM
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That's definitely true. I'd add as a caveat at a certain age it begins to make more sense to invest into single relationships, especially if you'd like to have a family. But if you wait to settle down until you have experience with a varied of women, you'll be much more equipped to select the right woman and navigate a ltr. Too many guys do game for 2 months and settle with the first girl who doesn't ghost them. The relationship is terrible. 2 years later theyre are single again and their game h…
/r/seduction30/04/22 02:48 AM
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Yes. Is that too difficult?
/r/seduction30/04/22 02:45 AM
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That's definitely true. But I wouldn't necessarily discount the basic tactics either - which often times amount to being a fun and less serious person with a greater sense of social and emotional awareness for the person in front of you.
/r/seduction30/04/22 02:44 AM
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'... I've stopped actively trying to date or hook up with anyone.' How am I supposed to interpret that?
/r/seduction30/04/22 02:42 AM
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I'm that that, if you're trying to date someone, you're much more likely to succeed if other women are attracted to you as well.
/r/seduction30/04/22 02:38 AM
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Yep. I agree with all of this. Nothing is surefire or 100%
/r/seduction30/04/22 02:00 AM
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So your experience had led you to a point where you have basically given up trying. And I'm supposed to take your advice seriously?
/r/seduction30/04/22 01:59 AM
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I was just talking to some friends about how 70% of guys being incels or simps makes my life easier. Thank you for your service.
/r/seduction30/04/22 01:57 AM
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I'll talk you through it for $30 for 30 minutes
/r/seduction29/04/22 10:58 PM
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The golden rule means 'treat others how you'd like to be treated' right? My point is that 'wanting to be treated well' can mean vastly different things for different people, especially between men and women. Can I ask what your level of experience is?
/r/seduction29/04/22 10:53 PM
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Nice man. Good luck!
/r/seduction29/04/22 10:44 PM
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The basics have been posted on this sub hundreds of times in countless threads. Generally really basic stuff. Dress ok and have decent hygiene, posture, eye contact, vocal tonality, smooth movements without jerkiness, a soft (rather than firm) touch, being generally confident, etc. Literally just search top posts in the subreddit. But the larger point is that being attractive is attractive. That is, women are attracted to men who other women are attracted to. This is called 'pre-selection.' Ther…
/r/seduction29/04/22 10:41 PM
2

That reminds me of the 'i need space' meme
/r/seduction29/04/22 10:38 PM
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Jesus, this is so vague that it's basically worthless. And the 'golden rule' assumes all people are the same, that someone else actually wants to be treated like you want to be treated. It's a kind of heuristic for people who are too lazy to learn what other people want, and instead assumes everyone is just like them. Even worse, it assumes men and women are hardwired the same way in terms of attraction, etc. But I agree that you should put an effort into women who aren't interested, not necessa…
/r/seduction29/04/22 10:34 PM
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Underrated comment. I'd just add that in terms of muscularity, it's mostly upper body and shoulders that matter when it comes to female attraction.
/r/seduction29/04/22 10:30 PM
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Definitely agree. If a girl signals she's not interested, leave her alone. Period. If a girl isn't giving clear signals, there might be something there. She could be nervous, distracted, socially awkward, etc.
/r/seduction29/04/22 10:24 PM
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👌
/r/seduction29/04/22 10:04 PM
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And I'm going to make fun of gender activists and transwhatevers every time they post it
/r/seduction29/04/22 10:02 PM
3

Lol. No
/r/seduction29/04/22 10:01 PM
2

Social proof is a bit more general and deals with situational social status, whereas pre-selection is being attractive and sought after by other women.
/r/seduction29/04/22 10:00 PM
1

You just outlined a principle that's common knowledge in the PUA/seduction community. Pre-selection is the number 1 determinant of female attraction. The principle is explained much better in Mystery Method tbh.
/r/seduction29/04/22 09:57 PM
2

Replace 'adults' with chodes
/r/seduction29/04/22 09:54 PM
4

I'm confused. Are you romantic with this woman or not? By romantic, I mean sexual.
/r/seduction29/04/22 09:52 PM
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Good ol yes ladder
/r/seduction29/04/22 09:50 PM
4

This isn't a question about logistics
/r/seduction29/04/22 09:35 PM
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Weirdo gender activists have way too much time in their hands. No normal guy messes with transwhatever
/r/seduction29/04/22 09:34 PM
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You're right
/r/seduction29/04/22 08:40 PM
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An open loop: 'You have 2 of my 3 weakness' 'Can I be completely honest with you?' These create intrigue and cause the girl to wonder what you're talking about. Thus they'll be more likely to respond. I've heard guys use 'How adventurous/spontaneous are you on a scale of 1 to 10.' In my experience, these might not necessarily translate well into other language. Beyond that, you really need to quit speculating about how this all works (since you have no experience to draw from) and read books by …
/r/seduction29/04/22 08:38 PM
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Damn. This is good response
/r/seduction29/04/22 08:23 PM
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'Sadism and dominance,' and segway into talking about shibari, bondage and moving the conversation to something sexual You have absolutely nothing to gain from answering that question at face value.
/r/seduction29/04/22 08:23 PM
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Noted. Good hair may get you a few compliments but not necessarily help you be better with women.
/r/seduction29/04/22 08:17 PM
2

Good to hear about that last part.
/r/seduction29/04/22 08:10 PM
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It's so painfully obvious after you've experienced it a few times but hard to understand if you haven't. 'It just happened' is a key phrase. Things 'just happen' for females romantically. It's what they expect, like, and are used to. This phrase is exactly how women perceived relationships developing. And from their perspective, it's right and normal. For men, on the other hand, things don't 'just happen'. Instead, men have to make things happen.
/r/seduction29/04/22 08:10 PM
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Because you waited for her to ask you if you like her. This tells me a) you haven't escalated past hand holding, and b) she wasn't even sure if you liked her . Yes, op. You are shy (and overly explicit verbally while showing next to no intent physically).
/r/seduction29/04/22 08:04 PM
2

Have you slept with or dated any of those women who compliment you because of your hair?
/r/seduction29/04/22 07:57 PM
1

Yes it will improve your smv, depending on the girl and her blueprint for attraction. But simply having high smv won't improve your game.
/r/seduction29/04/22 07:56 PM
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The problem with 'just talk to more girls' in this case is he's probably going to be just as shy and dancing around his attraction in order to present himself as nice and non sexual as possible. This girl is literally begging him to step up and have initiative.
/r/seduction29/04/22 07:52 PM
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Looool Every girl takes things slow with chodes. Imagine giving all initiative away to a woman and expecting a great result.
/r/seduction29/04/22 07:49 PM
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Jesus. This culture of touchy feely sensitivity has preventing guys from simply going after what they want. Instead they (meaning, you) are constantly unsure and asking for permission. This girl is going to be fucked by some guy who is less shy. No - 'do you want to date? Yes - 'lets hang out.'
/r/seduction29/04/22 07:47 PM
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The short answer is because a bunch of simp dudes will still message them despite that
/r/seduction29/04/22 07:44 PM
1

Saying, 'do you want to have sex' is terrible in any context.
/r/seduction28/04/22 11:32 PM
2

Absolutely 3rd grade tier questions
/r/seduction28/04/22 11:05 PM
2

Because she has a dozen guys texting her 'normally' and you aren't high in her priorities
/r/seduction28/04/22 11:02 PM
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Not responding means you're getting buried under others texts. Double texting 3-7 days later (without trying to start the old convo thread) gives you a chance.
/r/seduction28/04/22 10:12 PM
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Seeing as how that's not how to properly escalate with one girl, I'm willing to bet its the wrong answer for 2 girls. 'Demonstrate, don't explicate'
/r/seduction28/04/22 10:05 PM
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Exactly
/r/seduction28/04/22 09:59 PM
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And then she said, 'I know.' Guys, without giving you any more info or context, tell me what that means plz. OP, you are shit at asking questions and thus will only get useless responses.
/r/seduction28/04/22 09:52 PM
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No, don't wait between every text. If you know she's looking at her phone, it doesn't make sense to wait until she might not be looking at her phone to text. Do what's effective, not what satisfies your ego. You'll be missing a lot of girls if you never double text to recover a convo that died.
/r/seduction28/04/22 09:49 PM
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You're good man. Better to be overdressed than underdressed (depending on the type of girl you're approaching). Try to put out a slightly more sexual vibe to offset and contrast with your straight laced appearance
/r/seduction28/04/22 09:43 PM
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Give it a few days before you respond or double text. It wasn't a bad text at all
/r/seduction28/04/22 09:41 PM
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Cars, open fields, bathrooms, other people's houses, spare rooms at a party, etc.
/r/seduction28/04/22 09:39 PM
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This
/r/seduction28/04/22 09:38 PM
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She's probably nervous and youre trying to talk to her in a high pressure environment where there are people watching. Do this instead: 'Hey, I have to meet Jim, but do you want to grab pizza one day after school. 'ok' 'Cool, I'll text you later and we'll do it.' The goal is to talk to her alone, not in front of the whole school.
/r/seduction28/04/22 09:37 PM
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On a serious note, you are very unlikely to get one friend to leave the other so she can hang out with some random dude who talked to her for 5 minutes. Might as well invite both out, flirt very lightly, and see if that both seem interested, then take it from there.
/r/seduction28/04/22 09:34 PM
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'we should do something real quick' 'ok' [Leaves]
/r/seduction28/04/22 09:32 PM
2

If you are asking for data, this sounds like a research question, not a 'hey what's your opinion' question
/r/seduction28/04/22 09:31 PM
1

Gender activists don't deserve the 1st Amendment
/r/seduction28/04/22 09:30 PM
1

There's no such thing as 'women with male genitalia.' There is, however, a mental health crises in many parts of the world which manifests in different ways, this being one.
/r/seduction28/04/22 09:29 PM
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Ya, no. Most men are fucking losers If something is popular, it's probably a sign that you should avoid it unless you want to be one of many losers
/r/seduction28/04/22 09:27 PM
2

Great pictures is most important
/r/seduction28/04/22 09:26 PM
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Yep, focus on the pramatic stuff - things you can control. It will increase your success.
/r/seduction28/04/22 09:09 PM
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People always want what is hard to get. If your attention and admiration is free, then it's effectively worthless.
/r/seduction28/04/22 09:07 PM
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