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ConversationThis_Mode/r/seduction16/04/20 03:36 PM
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be a hipster.
/r/seduction09/10/20 10:11 AM
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Dont overthink. Shit is scary for everyone even the most experienced ones among us. The opener really doesnt matter. If a woman digs you you can say the most stupidest shit and she will find it amazing. If your really hung up start building a routine for yourself: Say Hi-ask how shes doing-number. Make the sequence more complicated as you get more experienced and figure out what interest you most about woman.
/r/seduction09/10/20 10:08 AM
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pull is flattering as you are pulling them towards you emotionally and push is where you are pushing them away emotionally. So getting back to your hypo when a woman is low energy and she hasnt left then shes still interested she could just be shy. Or she is just really kind and letting you do your shpeel. You dont know but the best way to find out is to like say something and move her. If she follows you then she is interested in you and just shy if not then time to cut and go.
/r/seduction20/09/20 11:09 PM
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like what type of neutral?
/r/seduction20/09/20 11:00 PM
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Yes its called the ugly docking.
/r/seduction20/09/20 10:52 PM
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My gamelan I don't escalate sexually until they're at my place. It build anticipation and just some girls don't want to be known as a slut and kissing a guy you just met might give them that label in their minds. So first off just the usual disclaimer that even when you are a superstar who is one of the most powerful men in the world, there are still going to be woman who do not hook. In fact (and I believe this after watching enough seduction coaches and doing some basic math) 3/10 woman even w…
/r/seduction20/09/20 09:46 PM
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Did you have a plan? Because while its all nice and good to go out and be fearless with approaching you still need a game plan. Such as all the pre-screening, getting enough info/comfort/attractiveness to get to your endgoal (number or instadate, or fuck)?
/r/seduction20/09/20 03:05 AM
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my take: you missed a escalation window and now have limited time as your very close to friendzone. stop texting her soo much and just set up the next date and plan to fuck her then.
/r/seduction04/09/20 01:28 PM
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Nightgame: Fairly common especially if your in a club and the social atmosphere is very contagious. Daygame: SUPER rare. Like I have been doing for a while and I still havent met another day gamer yet.
/r/seduction04/09/20 01:26 PM
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Reactions=/=results. Something I have learned many many times going out and approaching woman. Girls are really good at faking interest so the only way to tell is to have them act. IDK or have witnessed your game so I cant break down your field report without more detail.
/r/seduction04/09/20 01:16 PM
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NP good luck OP!!!
/r/seduction04/09/20 01:12 PM
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depends on where your starting from. Social adept guy? Probably a lot. Guy who is cool with a lot of people but shy? very minimal as you just need to get yourself more comfortable with yourself.
/r/seduction04/09/20 01:11 PM
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Be more clear. If hes a virgin and not doing it because he wants to be a monk, then hes probably bad with woman and reading then "signals". So when you sent your signal anything short of "I want you and really like you and I want us to be more exclusive" hes probably not gonna get. But if your afraid to do that and dont really care for labels then you can do the more indirect way of getting him to commit. Which is just essentially act like he is your BF and expect him to respond in kind. Now you…
/r/seduction04/09/20 01:09 PM
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more details such as howd you meet what is your relationship like (how much time you spend together, what do you typically talk about, etc).
/r/seduction04/09/20 01:00 PM
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dont set your expectations too high. Like dont try and say "im gonna go up to 10 woman and get them all to FUCCKKKKKKK me". your just setting yourself up for failure. What you should do is start small. Like say "if I say hi to 4 woman that is enough today". Then slowly over time ramp up the amount you do. Also Cold approach is very close to sales and in sales you will be rejected A LOT. Like to put into perspective even when you become a master of the seduction arts you only get 3/10 woman you a…
/r/seduction04/09/20 12:58 PM
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So as someone else mentioned in this thread if you want to keep a relationship just casual you have keep your time and your non sexual stuff to a minimum. Because what you are doing with your actions is setting the expectation of what a relationship with you will be like. And sadly there is certain behavior that codes you for BF and gives the woman hope that you will become her bf. Behavior such as telling each other about each others day, hanging out in a non sexual manner, spending the night a…
/r/seduction04/09/20 12:41 PM
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So its essentially an issue of invest. As someone else said your constantly fighting to make sure that your not validating woman too much. BUT you have to validate them at some point. Because no one likes hanging out with someone that never validates them. So PUA have created many different ways in which they can give value but not giving it up too much. One of the ways is to never compliment and to give value through your actions. Like you just dont compliment and just do nice actions to the gi…
/r/seduction03/09/20 01:37 PM
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What I dont like about mark and his book is HE NEVER GOT WOMAN off of his own advice. When he started writing models when he was already like around the 100 mark in terms of partners and all the partners he got was because of traditional PUA tactics. His method has not been field tested. He created a PUA-lite book that while makes someone feel good on the inside doesn't offer as much indepth knowledge to actually take some guys to a good enough level. Because news flash you need outside game to …
/r/seduction03/09/20 01:10 PM
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Amen. At some point I feel I want to write a link on why "while marks stuff is fine for absolute beginners (guys that are just bad in general socially not just with girls)" it fall apart if you ever want to become more advanced.
/r/seduction27/08/20 01:40 PM
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So the REAL answer at the end of the day is whatever you feel comfortable with. I am a person that loves to go direct with woman making my intentions clear and not wasting time with them. Some guys like to do the whole indirect approach by first asking something innocent but slowly making there intentions known through time by either there actions or there words. Some guys like to do night game and online game and I like to do daygame (partly because of the situation were in now). So guys like t…
/r/seduction27/08/20 01:33 PM
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So I don't usually play that indirect as it leads to situations like you described if your intentions were clear or not. But the fact you were talking sexually before getting the number and she seems to already be super attracted to you (contrary to popular belief on this sub going to the gym and working out and then trying to get woman is actually a very effective strategy. Because you are at your most primal and both hers and yours hormones are going crazy from the workout) means she knows you…
/r/seduction27/08/20 01:20 PM
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Im not quite sure what choosing signals is specifically but if your talking about signals woman give men to signal interest there is a lot.
/r/seduction26/08/20 09:35 PM
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Im now just imaging the its on moment with Lets get it on by marvin gaye.
/r/seduction26/08/20 09:24 PM
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Whats your goal? Like are you trying to become there new best friend? Are you just trying to make a presence? Are you trying to seduce someone?
/r/seduction26/08/20 09:19 PM
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Yea its crazy. When im with my natural friend he will tell me shit like " oh that girl like me. I can feel it" and im like "how the fuck did you do that?" his answer is he doesnt know he just knows.
/r/seduction26/08/20 01:14 PM
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mmm I'd say its more important to just not game at the same time and place every day. Like that has been for me the best way to ensure I dont start developing a reputation. When it comes to close calls yea I had a experience like that happen to me yesterday with one of the people I cold approached being in my class (she was the TA even!) so I understand that part well. But I was stupid and once I heard her occupation and that it was similar to mine I should've realized that she is in the same gr…
/r/seduction26/08/20 11:57 AM
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Haha ya hopefully she completely forgot me but if not I've got some witty comments already in my head to say. I think I was just shocked as I have never flirted with a TA without knowing before that she was my TA. But as you said oh well move on.
/r/seduction25/08/20 07:41 PM
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Just my nee jerk reaction like when I wrote that I had found out like 5 minutes before. Now that Im a little more calm I understand what your saying and I agree.
/r/seduction25/08/20 07:39 PM
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If Eg means Eh then there is no meaning behind it just a fillar word haha.
/r/seduction25/08/20 04:08 PM
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Again thats fine just if your going to do that dont say "LETSSSS GOOOO KIISSSSS AND FUCCCCKKKKKKKKK" like 99% of the time that shit will not work. Say something that gives her again plausible deniability :hey this place is too hot/cold. Lets go outside I know of a cool/warm place near here" and then lead her to the forest. If your not being to aggressive woman wont slap you. They will just look at you in disgust and walk away. If they slap you you seriously fucked up your calibration somewhere a…
/r/seduction25/08/20 12:24 PM
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They know how to think like a professional PUA just without all the jargon. Also there terrible at teaching what they learned.
/r/seduction25/08/20 12:16 PM
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Static street (bus stops, coffee shops, bookstores, grocery markets) are not too bad.
/r/seduction25/08/20 12:14 PM
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Eh good sign but normal. Just keep doing what your doing by compliments, maybe slowly ramping up the explicit sexual nature of them and if she responds positively then your good.
/r/seduction25/08/20 12:01 PM
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This is more personal preference but I dont generally make the kiss move until i'm at my place. Why? Because if you kiss a woman before that point (club, alleyway, car) when you get to your place they have a ASD kick in hard and start to overthink everything. So then you have to deal with a lot of stupid shit which then gives you a higher likelihood they end the seduction right there. If you kiss them at your place (or wherever you decide this is the place i'm gonna fuck) you eliminate those ner…
/r/seduction25/08/20 11:56 AM
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alpha shit is cringe. You need a combination of certain traits that people would describe as "alpha" and "beta" in order to get woman. This isnt actually that bad of a line to use for getting a girl out of her but you gotta add a little more seeding and make it PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY for the girl. So for your example "Hey you wanna go for a walk. Its kinda crowded in here." You created a reason that she could say to her friends (and herself) why she left with you that doesn't make her seem like a…
/r/seduction25/08/20 05:56 AM
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Yes totally get that.
/r/seduction25/08/20 05:47 AM
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it is but admittedly I dont usually do it as I AM not comfortable approaching women in this manner.
/r/seduction24/08/20 12:02 PM
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So first off what you are feeling is normal. Its the other side of the coin that a lot of seduction coaches/pua/naturals dont really go into is that you are going to be rejected ALOOOOOOTTTTTTT. Like not a little, not some of the time, but if your beginner/intermediate you will be rejected ALLLOOOOTTT. This feeling that your feeling is something that everyone has to go through at some point. Thats great now how the hell do you get through all those rejections? Well there are a few solutions but …
/r/seduction24/08/20 11:48 AM
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Just start acting like you are and then if they have a problem with that they can bring it up with either approving or disapproving the new behavior.
/r/seduction23/08/20 03:54 PM
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actions speak louder then words. If she isnt willing to meet up with you then move on. Though she seems super clingy if she is trying to already control who you can and cant speak with. So fair warning.
/r/seduction23/08/20 03:51 PM
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Can you? Yes you can. Should you? Ehhhhhhhh its very hard and is this weird blend of daygame and social game. Like are strangers but you will probably see them again. So best to go indirect as much as fuckin possible and see if there is interest.
/r/seduction23/08/20 03:49 PM
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move on.
/r/seduction23/08/20 03:47 PM
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I do not feel I am the best person for this but Ill give it a shot. First you have to figure out what you want to do. By that I mean are you going to be content with how the relationship is now or will it drive you insane? Can you keep your feelings bottled up forever or do they need to come out? Once you figure that out your next part is to act: either by keeping the status quo or making a move. If you keep the status quo great everything stays the same and you just have a crush on someone olde…
/r/seduction23/08/20 03:29 PM
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haha good laugh out of me today.
/r/seduction23/08/20 03:10 PM
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It depends on what your goals are. If your goals are to have a relationship/sex ASAP (or reasonable amount of time) and your not that good then yea you cant have everyone. If your good enough though you CAN have most woman its just a matter of do you want to do it? Which depending on your goal you could say its worth it as your trying to test your seduction skills or you say its not because you just want a simple lay/relationship. Really depends. I agree finding woman who are attracted to you an…
/r/seduction23/08/20 03:09 PM
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Congrats and your first successful aproach!
/r/seduction22/08/20 07:14 PM
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Well is this a hypothetical or is there a backstory to this question? Because every situation is different and how you got the number and what level of comfort you are with the woman determines the amount of texting.
/r/seduction22/08/20 07:12 PM
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This all is dependent on the time you got the number (like was it at school, on the streets, in the club/bar, etc) and of the expectations you set with the girl (did you say you would meet up with her later this week, sometime in the nebulous future, etc). In general, you should be planning on meeting up with a woman AT MAX 1 week after you got the number if you dont have regular contact with them (if you have regular contact then you can stretch it out to be like 2-3 weeks but still I would sti…
/r/seduction10/08/20 04:26 PM
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Im old school. Texting should only be used for establishing when your going to meet up and nothing else. Otherwise you get lost in the weeds so to speak with all the flirting/banter/useless conversations. When a woman gives you her number (and you set the initial frame up well) she knows your getting it because you want to take her out on a date. To that end you should expect some banter but really nothing like a conversation and at the same time be setting up the date. Keeping it short and swee…
/r/seduction10/08/20 04:08 PM
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"So heres my number text me sometime your free" or some variation will do it. But I guarantee she wont text you back no matter how good you ask for it. As that just not what most woman do.
/r/seduction10/08/20 04:03 PM
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I mean yea but I just feel hes being inefficient? Like shes attracted to him, you can tell that, but instead of like moving the conversation forward hes just continuing to stay in like the banter phrase and causing her to really doubt if he likes her or not. Which for most guys is a good thing as most guys dont go that hard but he was going tooo hard. Like the ending. He originally doesn't go along with her frame of asking the question (good game). Then she senses this (you can even hear her voi…
/r/seduction10/08/20 03:42 PM
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approach.
/r/seduction06/08/20 08:35 PM
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GO and dont blow it.
/r/seduction06/08/20 08:34 PM
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Ok ill give it a shot. So while your right it is going to be a risk, If your young you have a VERY great chance of surviving with covid. But thats the health care side and Im sure you have heard of that before. More importantly, Covid isnt going to go away anytime soon. Seriously, this shit even if we get a vaccine made by decemeber is not going to be gone for another year. Which means all these lockdowns, fears, reservations are going be there for like a year and a half. So do you REALLY want t…
/r/seduction06/08/20 08:16 PM
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Oh I see well good on ya for staying vigilant and working towards keepin the kind of people you dont want in your life. Oh man that such be such a great story! Your the one start him on his game you are like his own personal Obi wan or something haha
/r/seduction06/08/20 02:17 AM
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Ive always been curious what would happen if I met a woman who knew about game and how men game as much as I do. Feels like it would end in either us having sex immediately or try and out game each other all night with nothing happening.
/r/seduction06/08/20 01:49 AM
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Begin the conversation with my mask on then when they are comfortable with me slowly take my mask off to reveal my great smile. Works every time.
/r/seduction06/08/20 01:32 AM
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We would need a lot more info. Like a FR or two on one fo these interactions as we have no idea what is the problem.
/r/seduction04/08/20 02:37 AM
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First, walking away is a valid strategy. You dont need to convince a group of fuckin randos what your doing is wrong (IE justifying your self to them and lowering your value). So this is one of those classic shit test that you should already have a answer down because as you saw, it WILL come up. Basically what you wanted to do is present yourself as not weird just enjoying the company of others and meeting some cool people on the beach. Honestly if you didnt do so serious hard game (like making…
/r/seduction04/08/20 12:53 AM
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Its essentially the same as how you would approach it if it was a bunch of woman except now you have the possibility of one of them beating you up out of nowhere. Really with men just figure out the dynamics of why they are here sooner and TRY not to become the alpha male of the new group.
/r/seduction04/08/20 12:43 AM
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So LR are a fuck ton of work. If you think having a relationship with someone in person is hard then try it over thousands of miles. As you need to have a better communication then you have ever had with anyone ever. You need to figure out how much you two need to talk/text/do daty things in order to keep the relationship alive and well (NOT a FUCKIN EASY FEAT). You need to be working towards you guys meeting back up WITHIN A YEAR of interacting with each other so that the relationship still fee…
/r/seduction03/08/20 07:03 AM
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So as someone else said it sounds like she is just there for attention. But to really test whether this is true see if she will do some type of other thing with you outside of texting. Like a Skype call or a phone call. Like if she says yes, she goes through with it, and you enjoy it, then it might've seriously been she was just really busy and now shes starting to be free. My intuition is saying that she is just on tinder (like a lot of woman) for the attention. She has no real desire to meet u…
/r/seduction03/08/20 06:39 AM
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Just ask to come over to listen to a album or watch the latest sports game. Really thats it.
/r/seduction03/08/20 06:29 AM
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What I did when I was starting out is not give a fuck and just keep dancing. If I felt like I saw a girl who was into me I would reach out my hand and if she was into it, she would grab it back. I would then pull her into me and start "dancing". IT was fun...But dance clubs are notorious for there chaotic nature. You could be doing well with a girl and then the next minute she starts puking on you, or her friend pulls her off of you, or she gets another guy pull her off of you, or because your b…
/r/seduction03/08/20 04:20 AM
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In general you want to get off of small talk quick (Like a little is fine to break the ice and establish some rapport in the beginning but past a certain point it is entirely unhelpful) and figure out the core of the woman you are dealing with.
/r/seduction03/08/20 04:08 AM
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Gonna need more info. Like how long has it been since you saw her and how close were you two?
/r/seduction03/08/20 01:33 AM
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Beside what you mentioned, it also presents you in the frame of chasing the woman which will come off to woman as needy.
/r/seduction03/08/20 01:31 AM
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Yes Its basically a pre-screening signal that woman use to give guys (consciously or unconsciously) that they want you to come talk to them. So when you see it you should go over and talk to her. Now when it comes to men and the whole eye contact stuff, theres a lot of stuff to it and I dont feel like getting into it right now. But generally dont stare, try and find woman with the corners of your eye (gives a more sexual feel) and if you do stare, gotta go approach immediately.
/r/seduction03/08/20 01:18 AM
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