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So you want your women underweight? I'm 5'7" and 135lbs would be right on the border of "underweight" for me. I don't think women with eating disorders are attractive, I like a little curve ;)
/r/MGTOW05/02/17 11:43 PM
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Men don't have to spend money on sex, most men don't because their sex comes from relationships. Which you "reuse" sex with your significant other.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 03:20 AM
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when was the last time a guy got something material that he can sell or use outside of sex after fucking a woman? women don't get anything from sex that they can sell either... You saying women spending money on clothes and shoes counts is like if a guy went to a prostitute, and gave her money for sex, and then got it back so he can use it with another prostitute. Wut. It's mind boggling how backwards this thought process is. I agree.... Ha I don't understand that thought process at all. Women s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 10:21 PM
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Women do that all the time. They blow their paychecks on buying makeup, clothes, shoes, etc to get guys to find them attractive, as well as spending hours applying it. Women are more selective, but they don't have less of a sex drive. If men and women were given the option to have sex as often as they wanted, they both pick the same number of times. But men are more likely to be able to have orgasms with any woman, women have a lot more trouble having orgasms. So men will have sex with just abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 09:14 PM
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But it's not the minority of studies? And I'm sure you know women are much more sensitive to testosterone, right? Women have less but we are much more sensitive to it! Again, I don't think there's some huge conspiracy theory where women and researchers are lying about their results from multiple studies. Let's review: it doesn't make sense logically for human women to be the only creatures in the entire animals kingdom to not like sex. Studies that you and I have both looked at say that the sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 11:00 PM
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I never said women's sex drives were stronger, I said they were similar which you admit several studies show and the rest show the difference is minimal. Thank you for the debate :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 08:34 PM
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This is the best solution for everyone. She could make a scene, call the cops, get the guy thrown out of the bar and arrested, press charges, etc. But instead she's just trying to sneak out the back and get to her care safely. That's the opposite of a heavy handed ending. That's the best ending for both people. Girl gets home safe, guy doesn't go to jail or at least get publicly humiliated. Again, 90% of women have said this has happened to them. It's not an unlikely situation at all. Sexually a…
/r/MGTOW04/11/16 11:08 AM
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I never said it was? But sexual assault is very common in bars. Almost 90% of women say they have been groped specifically in a bar. That's why we need things like "Angela" and posters about consent. Most men don't even realize they grabbing women without their consent is sexual assault! It's scary honestly. 90% of women have been victims and most of the perpetrators don't even recognize they are committing a serious crime!
/r/MGTOW03/11/16 10:53 PM
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Please post one of these studies then, because I just can't see how tens of thousands of people could be lying. If someone wanted to enslave white men (or whatever race you are) would you be friends with hem? What if they wanted to rape men as punishment and force them into marriage? I am a woman. There are people who believe that it is okay to rape me. That it is okay to force me into marriage. That it is okay to treat me like a farm animal. So no, I'm not going to "kill them with kindness". Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 10:51 PM
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Calling for help openly can be really intimidating. It's easier to get help quietly. Isn't this better for the guy too? She could walk away... if he lets her. But again, that's not always the case. She could risk walking outside and him following her to her car, which would be much worse.
/r/MGTOW03/11/16 10:09 PM
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Oh why do you think that? How would you like to decrease sexual assault, specifically in the bar scene? Maybe we could have posters instead reminding people what is and isn't consent. And reminding people that "no" means no, and to not pursue someone after "no"?
/r/MGTOW03/11/16 10:08 PM
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Doctors can refuse services for any reason. It isn't about greed. If doctors had to treat every patient who wanted treatment our health care system would collapse. We simply do not have the resources to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 10:07 PM
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It's not about "disagree" with them. You should not be friends with people who are racist, sexist, or hate any group of people. It's ignorant and toxic. I don't think tens of thousands of people over 25 years from all different cultures is a small sample size!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 10:04 PM
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Yes... in fact, women spend 6x the time getting ready that men do. Women actually work harder to attract a mate and spend much more money and time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 08:03 PM
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I don't think you can dismiss studies just because you don't like what they say. Time and time again, no matter how they measure it, women like sex just as much as men. It does matter how old you are when you get unattractive. Because that's how old you are when you stop having sex. I think it's fine for either gender to leave anyone for any reason. It's not shallow. Whoever told you it was is sexist and you shouldn't be friends with them :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 07:51 PM
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Okay well you can google these things to find sources, I didn't have to look that hard when I first posted them. Women are less likely to be overweight than men, more likely to exercise, and more likely to eat vegetables. They are less likely to eat fast food, and hit their highest weight 15years after men. Women have comparable sex drives to men. In studies that looked at how often each gender would like to have sex per week, the genders answered very similarly, with both genders picking "3-5x/…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 04:35 PM
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I disagree. I think a huge majority of women have been in potentially dangerous situations, especially at bars. Some guys just don't understand "no thanks" and will keep trying to ""convince"" her to give him a chance. Add in alcohol, and maybe she's not being direct enough or maybe he's not getting it, but she feels harassed and afraid. I think it's a great tool for men and women and anyone who needs help out of a sticky situation.
/r/MGTOW03/11/16 03:44 PM
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How are the victims predominantly male? Did we read the same OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 08:21 AM
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Women don't need the candles to be perfect or any of that shit. We want to have sex just as bad as men, we just aren't attracted to fat guys who don't help out. You're right women are more likely to be obese. But men are much more likely to be overweight at every age group than women. Men hit their heaviest at 50, women hit their heaviest at 65+. If you don't think women like sex just as much as men you're crazy. In fact, women tend to stay in shape longer, wear makeup, shave their legs, etc etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 07:59 AM
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I didn't say women were more valuable or any of that. Literally all I'm saying is if it's so common for men to not have the sex life they want, why are so many men overweight, don't put effort into their appearance, and don't romance their wives? It's not even a gender thing. You're more likely to get laid if you're in shape and make an effort to romance your partner. So I simply do not understand how men can complain about a lack of sex if they don't put in the effort to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 01:05 AM
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I've never had a threesome with another woman. But again, that has nothing to do with high n count. Once a woman is experienced enough to know what she likes and comfortable enough with sex to do it, her boyfriend gets to be the one she is confident and has a great time in bed with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 10:43 PM
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Your very first comment was "women are pretty dumb" Yet you are the one making spelling mistakes, are unable to answer this question despite me asking 3 times, and still can't defend!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 09:53 PM
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Men are more likely to be an extreme of intelligence, while women are more likely to be average. So men are more likely to be literally retarded, but also more likely to be geniuses. I'll ask you again. Why do you think women are stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 09:19 PM
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I don't think men are stupid. Why do you think women are stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 09:03 PM
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It autocorrects to Curie and capitalizes it...... Again, if it was a pun, you're not a comedian. Get funnier, maybe women will like you then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 08:49 PM
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How did it go over my head??? I called you out on your spelling error immediately and you somehow tried to turn it into a pun? We weren't even talking about physics or chemistry it doesn't even make sense!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 08:37 PM
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What did she get her degree in again? Get wrecked :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 08:20 PM
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Why do you think women are stupid? I never spelled chemist or feminist... she was a physicist. Lol but women are dumb... google your shit before you look like a fool!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 08:16 PM
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Except accepting a drink isn't cheating... having sex with another person is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 08:12 PM
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This post is so ironic. For one, you spelled "cure" wrong. For two, you spelled it Curie! As in Marie Curie, the renowned female physicist. Thirdly, men are more likely to be dumb than women. Women are more likely to be average.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 08:11 PM
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Oh I thought you told me in another comment you were from Europe. Also, LA is pretty notorious for being the Mecca for plastic surgery and beach babes. It's definitely waayyy above average attractiveness. You didn't really explain why you think that. Do you have any data to back up why you think women are more hypergamous than men? For instance, men cheat more often. Doesn't that seem to imply that men are more likely to be seeking out a better mate?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 07:06 PM
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Damn, well those hot sex starved guys should come to America! Why do you think women are more hypergamous than men? Don't you think everyone is looking for the hottest, bestest partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 07:01 PM
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Well in America they are the top 25% because 75% of men over 50 are overweight. Over 85% of men report having sex in the last year. Do you think 85% of men are tall, young, muscular, and handsome? Because you said those are the only guys who get laid.... so I think you need to admit that isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 06:44 PM
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So like 25-35? Any younger is statistically not as good of a mom. Under 25 and the kids are much more likely to use drugs and alcohol, not graduate, not go to college, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 06:24 PM
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But he would be in the top 25% because 75% of men are overweight. Having a hot body is pretty Chad!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 06:16 PM
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So if your friends are in the top 25% of in shape men, and they arent drowning in pussy, maybe women are loyal to their husbands and not hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 05:25 PM
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Marry rich or a man who has a good job. Don't marry someone who requires lots of support.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 04:26 PM
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Less than 10% of marriages get alimony awarded to either party, and it is almost always measured in months, not years.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 04:25 PM
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If women were hypergamous, why haven't they left their husbands for those better guys? Your evidence is anecdotal. The fact is, over 30% of men over 50 are obese. 75% are overweight. You can't expect anyone to want to have sex with you when you're obese or very overweight, but the large majority stay obese their whole lives and bitch about their wives not giving them sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 04:22 PM
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Ha thanks. I think everyone is hypergamous! Who doesn't want to marry someone hot and awesome? And I want my husband to think I'm "too good" for him and I will think he's too good for me :) I just think that's love ha no one wants to marry someone and think "eh she's alright I could probably do better" and no one wants to be married to someone who thinks that about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 04:03 PM
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Okay but how many of them even work out 3 times a week? Or even try to kewl prep and diet? I've posted the source before, but 75% of men over 45 are overweight. How many of them even try to plan a weekly date night? So how do you explain that? Are their sex drives just not strong enough to make them put in effort to be attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 04:00 PM
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But you can attain an attractive body.... you can take your wife on dates or do whatever she's into. But most guys don't even keep up the same standard as when they were dating. It's supposed to get better not worse. So why don't more men get into great shape and treat their wives really great if they want more sex? Wouldn't that just make logical sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 03:55 PM
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Yup. I know how vaginas work having had one for the last 22 years! We stay lubricated constantly. Every single day when I take of my undies at night there is white gunk in them. Every day. Regardless of how many hot babes I see ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 03:53 PM
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I mean... I'm going to be a doctor and I want a SAHD for a husband. Women can want trophy husbands too haha. Why would he register for unemployment if he's married to someone making 6 figures?? But I don't see what that has to do with women not being gay.....? Women can have babies with or without men. If women were gay, they probably wouldn't be married to a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 03:52 PM
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Haha I mean you can google it, but I'm a woman I'm kind of an expert on this stuff lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 03:49 PM
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Hm. You would think men would try harder to stay in shape and take their wives on dates and just in general be better husbands since women have so many options. I feel like a lot of married men who post here at least seem to feel some sort of resentment towards their wife for aging or not doing things for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 03:48 PM
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Hey I just thought of something. As you get older, you learn to be more direct and clear about what you want, so that may be why older women seem less willing to do whatever you like. For instance, my ex used to want to have a FFM threesome. I am not into that at all, but I tried to placate him and say "maybe if x,y,z happen". Then, when he would bring it up again I would feel hurt, he would feel lied to, and it just created a mess. Now I know to be direct and say "no that will never happen, I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 03:43 PM
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So his wife is doing him a favor by staying with him? Since she could easily upgrade because there's such a lack of women available to most men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 03:39 PM
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Again, 40% of the time women make more than their husbands. Why would they waste their resources on him? And you don't need a man to have a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 03:38 PM
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Women are constantly self lubricating.... wetness doesn't mean they are turned on. It's more common for women to be wet for no reason than for men to get boners for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 03:37 PM
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Having sex with someone of the same gender doesn't automatically make you attracted to that gender..... for one thing, maybe you just like that person, but not necessarily their genitalia. But again, women are often encouraged to find other women sexually attractive. Women who are 100% straight will mess around with other women simply because guys find it hot and they want to please their boyfriend or whatever. Have you ever heard of experimenting? Trying something doesn't mean you like it. Agai…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 02:26 PM
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Nope. The problem is custody is based off of who does the most child care during the marriage. Which makes sense, it's easier on everyone. Dad doesn't have to learn how to prepare a picky child's meals or leave work early to pick him up from school because mom is still fulfilling those roles. The kid doesn't have to go through quite as big of a transition. It typically works out well for both parents, only 4% of custody cases are solved through court, the rest the parents are able to find an agr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 02:14 PM
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That's because it's acceptable for women to be gay. Women are even encouraged to have lesbian experiences. Gay men on the other hand are considered gross. They are much more likely to stay in the closet and 100% heterosexual women are much more likely to have lesbian experiences. Edit: sorry just read your response more carefully, I agree :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 02:03 PM
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You don't think the fact that society considers lesbians "hot" and gay men "gross" affects the study? After all, how many men would be honest if they had fantasizes about other men? Especially if the researchers are equating that to being gay, most men would not feel comfortable admitting to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 02:02 PM
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I realize that, but I don't think the majority of women are sexually attracted women, but not romantically. I think it is much more likely that it is more socially acceptable (even encouraged sometimes) for women to find other women attractive. It's not organic or biological.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 01:59 PM
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Sooo basically the researchers said "even though you say you're straight, your pupils dilated so you are bisexual you just don't know it yet". That's obviously not how you do a scientific study, you can't just extrapolate data like that. You can be attracted to naked people but not actually want to fuck their genitalia lol Again, if this were true our society would look much different. Can you imagine if a huge proportion of women were gay? We would see much more lesbian marriages. As it is, it …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 12:44 PM
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Just noticed your username. If you're that unhappy, what is stopping you from getting a divorce, getting on some dating sites, and finding someone who you find more attractive or who is less likely to cheat on you or whatever?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 11:41 AM
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How is this even an actual claim haha. If this were true, why do the huge majority get married or have ltr with men? We wouldn't need to, we have ivf and 40% of women make more money than their guy anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 11:37 AM
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I think if you're new to sex you're more likely to explore. If you've already explored and found out you don't like anal, you don't need to keep trying it. Again, it has nothing to do with n count. Figure out what YOU like and make sure your partner likes the same stuff. If you like to be constantly trying new stuff, find a partner like that! Which will be hard because they are probably already taken, but I'm sure you can do it. Marrying a virgin wouldn't be any different. She might let you try …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 01:04 AM
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Ew. A little hair on arms and legs is fine. Scruff is fine if you can pull it off. Chest hair and ass hair? Disgusting lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 12:40 AM
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I don't think her not liking to give blow jobs has anything to do with a high n count though.... she dated shitty guys. You can date 1 guy and he will be shitty. You can date 100 guys and they won't be. You keep making connections to sexually compatibility, abusive exes, and age, but you have yet to make a connection between high n count and something negative. Some people like being slutty and some like being virginal. Neither is "wrong" or "bad". It's hard to find someone you're compatible wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 12:00 AM
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Hmm, Maybe try dating girls who you're sexually compatible with? If you need oral sex, date a girl who will do that. If you need more excitement, communicate about that and try to spice things up. Again, it doesn't seem to have anything to do with n count. Date someone you're sexually compatible with. Are you complaining that all women your age are prude and have sexual hangups? Maybe all the slutty ones got tied down early ha guys wanted to lock down the women who gave head on the first date an…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 11:21 PM
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Hmm, Maybe try dating girls who you're sexually compatible with? If you need oral sex, date a girl who will do that. If you need more excitement, communicate about that and try to spice things up. Again, it doesn't seem to have anything to do with n count. Date someone you're sexually compatible with. Are you complaining that all women your age are prude and have sexual hangups? Maybe all the slutty ones got tied down early ha guys wanted to lock down the women who gave head on the first date an…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 11:18 PM
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I think people just figure out what they like and stick to it. Im sure it gets less appealing to experiment when you've found those few things that make your eyes roll back in your head. But now are you talking about age being the problem? I thought we were talking about high n counts? Also, just some random advice you may or may not find useful and do with it what you will, but in my conversations with guys and stuff I've picked up on Reddit and whatever... giving up porn seems to really do won…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 09:54 PM
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I'm still young, I'm 22. I don't think "jaded" is the right word, I think they just figured out what they like and don't like! For instance, I hate being on top. There's no bad experience tied to it, it simply doesn't do anything for me. Regardless of if I was a virgin or had slept with 100 guys, I would never like being on top. Women can have sexual preferences without some bad experience behind it!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 09:36 PM
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By that logic, would you say that women tend to be more intelligent than men since women are MUCH less violent than men? Like literally 99% of all violent crimes are committed by men...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 08:59 PM
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I don't think you understand the Oath. It doesn't mean we don't get to pick our patients, it means we help the patients we pick. It's not just about money. Anyone can refuse you service for any reason. If you're rude, you won't be served no matter how much money you have. That goes for waitresses, doctors, hookers, any business.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 08:32 PM
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I actually have had 2 ltr, one that marriage was discussed. I am slutty when I'm single, but that doesn't mean I've never had a committed relationship. I will get emotional and social support from whoever I marry and they will get the same from me, plus financial support. I have had the opposite experience! The more comfortable I got with sex the more I was willing to try new things. In fact, something I laugh about now is how scared I was to try butt stuff. I was mortified I would fart or have …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 08:30 PM
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How am I supposed to know you're Russian?? Lol wtf. Also, sorry but I've never been there and don't really care about their dating scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 07:33 PM
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It's in like Russian or something. That could say anything. And it obviously wasn't written by someone in the western world...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 07:15 PM
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I definitely don't fuck Chads haha I like extremely scrawny guys, nerdy hobbies, big glasses are hot.... most of the guys I date don't play sports or have much of a social life. And then what? I would marry a beta for his support? I'm going to be making a shit ton of money, whoever I marry is lucky af in that regard. I won't ever hurt for money. Yeah hopefully my future husband and I will date for a couple years and we will find out everything we need to know to be compatible during that time, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 06:39 PM
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I haven't seen anyone over the age of 14 post that. But I also wouldn't date a woman with a laundry list of things she is entitled to in a boyfriend, it's not okay for anyone to do that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 06:35 PM
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Exactly. Why even put it in the list? I also want my partner to be human lol. It's just funny how TRP expects all these things, but then they treat women like shit. If you want respect, you have to give respect. Calling her a hamper or plate and assuming she needs you to make all her decisions for her isn't respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 12:05 PM
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I mean... I'll be honest, but again, about what? Outside of trp, no one asks about numbers. He will get to know me and decide if we are compatible and I will do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 12:02 PM
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Uhh what women do you know that have 15 super vague criteria? Seriously, "respect me", "listen to me" basically means anything she does that he doesn't like is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 02:10 AM
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That doesn't mean we treat with impunity. We still get to pick our patients to a large extent, especially as private practice you get complete say. It is common practice for doctors to turn patients away for being on Medicare and Medicaid because they don't reimburse as well as private insurance.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 10:07 PM
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But "Chad" is supposed to be extremely athletic? Betas get most of the women, thats what I'm saying and thats what this picture shoes. The "Chad" that is described by trp is extremely unnattractive to women. Of course, every woman is different and likes different guys, but very very few like the athletic dumb jock who is a player. I'm the red pill dream girl and this is the type of guy I fuck and fall in love with. Just throwing that out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 08:16 PM
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Why is it okay to judge people for slutiness? Its not okay to judge anyone for anything that doesn't hurt others, why is women sleeping around the sole exemption for that? Don't you see how misogynistic youre being??
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 08:14 PM
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I'm telling you why some men won't want to date you and it's okay. Well yeah! Not every guy will like me for a million reasons and thats okay. I only need 1 compatible person :) Im not really sure why you brought up birth control then. Biologically, guys want to get women pregnant. Our cavemen didn't wait until the 5th date to bang, they banged all the time. Slutiness is our natural state, not monogamy. Biologically, monogamy is directly against our instinct. This is complete bullshit. You can a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 08:10 PM
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Then why do I get away with having all this sex and stable relationships and happy family? Shouldn't I be shunned from society, not be able to get a boyfriend, and disgust men since supposedly its a "biological thing" (PS. I got my BS in biology and I don't remember this topic in class). I don't have to worry about pregnancy. Birth control + condoms= not too worried about it. I'm pro choice if it comes to that. I can't wait to have a relationship, but now is not a good time nor is the next 3 yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 07:46 PM
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Uhhh I'm not advocating fucking anywhere and everywhere with anyone. But if its the right place at the right time, why not? Idk, Ive had some ltr, even one where we talked about marriage, and my number count never came up. In fact, I've never really head serious dry spells/ trouble dating, but you admitted you have in another comment... So maybe its okay to be a slut, but its not okay to judge people on their number? I mean, youre the one having a problem not me so...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 07:23 PM
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Yeah I think hes pretty cute! But I got a lot of "oh why are you dating him?" type comments when we were together. Hes not blonde though, he has pretty dark hair and eyes. We both have eastern Jewish heritage. I'm just saying hes not masculine at all, in any way. Hes extremely scrawny, always sick, accounting major, doesn't do any sports at all, thinks football is stupid, etc etc. Idk why the red pill thinks women only like chads, we like a variety of guys!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 07:19 PM
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But just because shes fucking chad doesnt mean she won't fuck you later... you can have multiple partners at once. Thats the point. Sex never runs out, its infinite.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 07:15 PM
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Oh in the USA they don't, but we still take the Hippocratic Oath. But that has nothing to do with mandatory treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 07:14 PM
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Nope, they don't have to give a refund. Go talk on your cell phone in a movie, see if you get a refund.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 07:13 PM
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Just keep in mind, that judging for it and not wanting to date a person because of her partner count is also fine. Nope its not actually. Thats like saying "its fine to be gay, its fine to be straight. But prepared to be judged if youre gay"... then its not really "fine" to be gay..... I'll be honest with my husband about things he needs to know, but no one is entitled to that information. He and I will date for years and will get to know each other very well. I won't hide anything from him, he …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 07:13 PM
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Any man can be attractive. Get fit and you won't be any less than a 5 at minimum and have women all over you. Double the time you spend on grooming in the morning and deal with some of your sexual insecurities and you'll be irresistible to women!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 07:10 PM
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That makes it not a zero sum game! You can have sex with multiple people! That's the point! It's not a zero sum game.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:47 PM
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Nope that's not true. A doctor never has to treat you unless you're literally about to die. Break your leg at a 90 degree angle? Sucks to suck if that doctor doesn't like you, he doesn't have to treat you. You can pay with insurance. They will cover the cost, but the doctor won't make as much depending on the insurance, so he can refuse to do it. Doctors can and do daily refuse patients on a million different reasons. We have a shortage of doctors in the US, particularly OBGYNS.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:34 PM
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Nope, a business can refuse service to anyone for any reason. Obviously, if they keep taking people's money without providing services they won't be business very long so it is within their best interest not to.... But it's definitely still legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:32 PM
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I can have as many amazing men as I want? I don't understand what you're saying. I don't want to stay with the same person. The guy I lost my virginity to at 16 is currently a college drop out... I've moved on to bigger and better things :) which is good for me. Some people might find their "one" at 16 and only have one partner. But either way is fine. Having 100 partners or 1 partner is fine. Neither one is wrong or bad, it's just different styles of living.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:31 PM
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I mean, you can get sex without using prostitutes... just go out to bars and pick someone up. Or more reliably, enter a relationship with a woman. But you're right, whether you just want go to a strip club or whether you actually do, most women don't make the distinction. Any guy that desires paying for sex is a turn off for a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:28 PM
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Uh yes and hopefully you shit several time a week haha Just like hopefully you have sex several time a week :) I've actually never met anyone irl who cared about my number.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:25 PM
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Why do you think the standards should be different? It's the exact same risks for men and women, both physically and mentally. It seems like you're just trying to justify slut shaming. I'm very relationship minded, but if I'm single I have several partners a year. Like 10-20 haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:23 PM
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I don't think so. My old roommate was a stripper and she met her previous boyfriend through work. She did not give a single fuck and would kiss him on his way out the door. If you consider these things to be of "questionable moral caliber" shouldn't you want women to disapprove of these things? Shouldn't the guys who partake in those activities because they want to be much grosser than women being involved in those activities because they are being highly paid?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 10:28 PM
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Alright. If you don't like the type of girl who would approve of those things, don't do those things. But women who do approve of those things do exist, even if you don't recognize them as "legit options".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 07:30 PM
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But it doesn't.... women are sluttier than they ever have been. Do men seem less thirsty to you? Do men want divorce more?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 07:03 PM
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There are definitely women out there who don't care about that stuff. Strippers and poly women for one!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 06:58 PM
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Is anyone calling her obese though? She's curvy, she's plus sized, she's not skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 04:34 PM
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And that's fine, we just wouldn't be compatible. There's nothing wrong with staying a virgin until marriage and there's nothing wrong with hooking up with hundreds of partners. People shouldn't virgin shame or slut shame, there are a million ways to live your life and neither one is "wrong" or "right". As long as you date someone for a long time and get to know them, I'm sure you will be able to figure out if you're compatible for marriage. Her n count doesn't matter because someone like me and …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 03:37 PM
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Yeah maybe, i definitely have a type but I can't change that. Who is skittles?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:58 PM
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I mean... I feel like I am thinking long term. I'm putting myself through hell in med school so that in 10 years we can live wherever we want and never have to worry about money or job security. Isn't that so much more substantial than the number of people I've kissed, given oral, or had sex with? It's just... so insignificant. I am a human, I like sex. If I meet someone I am attracted to, why hold back? As long as I'm not hurting anyone, I don't see the problem. I don't want to get attached bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:42 PM
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Why do you even care what others do with their body?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:24 PM
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Okay I linked you a source, you link me one to show feminists have historically been against prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:24 PM
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So you're saying that it's women's fault for not having the same interests as men? Or for not seeking them out? Nerdy women have the same problem. I was in an academic book club in high school that had maybe 15-20 students in it. There was one guy. So can I bitch that men only chase alpha women and if the guys I like don't make an effort to join my clubs it's their fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:23 PM
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Oh so you must not know anything about horses. As long as you aren't competing in something you want at least a 4 year old, well trained, horse. They can be dangerous otherwise. And fitting into my metaphors :) statistically, you want to marry a woman after the age of 25. Divorce rates drop to 16% after that age. Let's do some simple math. Let's say a woman loses her virginity at 18 (a later estimate than average) and gets married 7 years later, exactly at 25. Even if she only has 1 partner a ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:20 PM
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I completely agree, that is the best kind of sex! But again, I'm young and I'm moving far away from where I am right now in the near future. I'm a second year med student, I study 25/8. I do not have time for a boyfriend or anything like that. I moved to this city 1.5 years ago, and I don't really go out a ton. Here's how my cycle goes: go out once a month, meet a guy. Hang out once or twice a week for a few weeks, have a sexual relationship, relationship ends. Repeat. Maybe if I was going out m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:09 PM
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I'll pm you a pic. Yes, we had casual sex for about 3 months. But it got pretty hard to deny we were in love at that point so we just made it official. I wasn't looking to date at all, he was only supposed to be a fwb.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:56 PM
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I completely disagree. I literally do not know a single woman who doesn't like the nerdy look. I mean, I'm friends with a certain type of person for sure... but idk, the innocent look is pretty hot. Look at how obsessed women get with guys like Daniel Radcliffe and Evan Peters. The problem shy guys have is they simply don't hang out in places where they interact with women, especially the type of women who would be interested in them (educated, more mature personality type).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:51 PM
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I'm just not looking to settle down right now. So for a lot of guys, after 5 or 8 or 10 dates they want to be exclusive or become my "boyfriend" and I just don't want that right now. So inevitably, we stop hanging out. I would say an average partner last anywhere from a few sexual encounters to long term fwbs, but those are on and off. By the same token, I don't want to get too attached. Obviously sex and spending time with someone can cause attachment. So, sometimes we part ways because it just…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:44 PM
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Because you said women don't support prostitution. They do. http://imgur.com/swMMDnZ This was my last boyfriend. Does he look like a "Chad" to you? Ha he is 120 lbs, huge glasses, and I picked out that shirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:36 PM
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I like the same type of guy. Shy, caring, generous, is good with kids, maybe has a green thumb or a pet they treat like family, nice to waitresses.... sounds good to me :) I really like nerdiness as well. Like being super into Harry Potter or something, not caring about the latest fashion, having glasses, playing chess, etc haha I just love the stereotypical "nerd" type of guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:35 PM
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Oh I'm sure mine will be 60 before I'm 25. Well I hope so anyway :) I'm always attracted to "betas". I don't buy into the whole alpha beta thing, but how I've seen betas described is really sexy :) I linked you something to show that women actually do support prostitution so I'm not sure how you're still arguing we don't...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:28 PM
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I never claimed that was in the source. I said that was an estimate... #learntoread :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:23 PM
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Well it's actually pretty easy to rack up an n count over 40. I've been having sex since I was 16/17 ish, and I'm currently 22. So in the last 5-6 years I have had less than 10 partners a year. That's less than 1 new person a month. Personally, I think people who care about n count tend to be insecure. They are guys who wish they could have 10 partners a year and are jealous that women are able to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:22 PM
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Then how do you explain women supporting prostitution? How do you explain the slut acceptance movement pushed largely by women? Shouldn't women be slut shaming each other to keep the "pussy price up" or whatever? http://imgur.com/9j1XYR1 The honest to god truth is that it doesn't really matter. Sex is not a zero sum game. A girl is a slut? Soooo what... that doesn't make my boyfriend want to fuck me any less. He is still attracted to me and wanting to have sex with me no matter how many sluts he…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:20 PM
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It's part of the wiki entry for feminism lol http://imgur.com/ZojPEm2
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:13 PM
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It's literally the wiki entry under feminism http://imgur.com/bQEJfhJ
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:13 PM
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That's my experience. What are some differences in sex? I'm a female, are you a male? Let's try to find some differences between us. I prefer men who are about the same size as me, not big muscles, not a lot taller. I like glasses and intelligence is a huge turn on. If a guy teaches me something or tells me something interesting, it's so attractive. What do you like in a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:12 PM
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Women are going to be objectified no matter what. If they want to sell their bodies, it should be safe and legal for them to do so. Feminism has historically supported porn and prostitution. http://imgur.com/3ypGuZ6
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:10 PM
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Oh that's not true. If you're a slut or a player a lot of women won't like you. Personally, i LOVE virgins/inexperienced guys, so a guy that is banging a new girl every weekend is gross to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:08 PM
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But "shorter than them" doesn't mean short. I'm a woman, I approach at least 1 guy every time I go out. Otherwise I would never hook up with guys I actually want to! I'm only attracted to 10% of the guys in the room and chances are they aren't the ones approaching me. I really don't think they do. What are some differences?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:07 PM
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I wouldn't say "rapist" at all, but I would agree that most women think men who go to strip clubs/use prostitutes/ pay for sex at all is gross. And then some women don't give af so it just depends on the person!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:05 PM
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Can you give me an explanation in your own words? You keep linking web pages with no context at all
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:04 PM
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Maybe. Some women just like sex. I've probably been with 40-50 guys and I don't have any problems at all, so what number is the cut off for "problems"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:02 PM
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But men do want tall women... tall and thin, like a super model. And women can approach men whenever they want, a lot of guys prefer it that way actually. I think men and women are 99% the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:01 PM
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Seriously, give me an explanation in your own words. How do women change? Is it literally after 99 partners or is there another magic number?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 11:51 AM
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I am just clarifying :) I wouldn't want a blooper to be accused of sexism!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 11:50 AM
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Feminism is historically in favor of legalizing prostitution Being legal in Las Vegas (not the entire state) is not exactly close to being legal everywhere. We are still a long ways away from that. No I hate women being objectified. But prostitution doesn't do that any more than stripping or even certain situations in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 11:49 AM
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In general, feminism is sex positive and wants to protect women. Legalizing prostitution does both of those things. I would say 80% of feminists want to legalize prostitution, but a sizable minority don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 11:45 AM
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Exactly. I don't see how you could see casual sex as gross only for women. It would have to gross for both for this to make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 06:06 AM
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So guys who use prostitutes are gross?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 06:03 AM
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So it's exactly as bad/good for a woman to have high n counts as it is for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 06:02 AM
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But that's the same with women... after she showers, no dick is left in the vagina haha
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 05:52 AM
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Is a horse any less useful if he's had 100 riders? Why would it matter if a girl has had 100 lovers if not for pride? Nothing about the girl changes, so the only explanation is the way the guy feels about it, which is an ego thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 05:51 AM
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Oh so you agree with me? You can't force A prostitute to service you, in any situation? Just like you can't force a doctor or a waitress?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 04:07 AM
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Okay, but for the most part you can refuse service to clients. And a prostitute is more like a waitress than a lawyer. So can a waitress refuse service and kick a person out of their property? Yes. In every single circumstance? No, but pretty much. Why should a prostitute be any different?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 03:19 AM
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The ONLY time a health professional is required to help you is if you're dying. And even then, it is only enough help to keep you from dying. Break your leg? Sucks to suck, you aren't dying so doctors can refuse you all day long while your leg bone literally hangs out of your body. So if doctors can refuse treatment for that, prostitutes can refuse service for your shitty attitude or physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:59 AM
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I completely agree! Unfortunately, a lot of victims don't have control of their own money, have children, and fear for their safety. In fact, the most likely time a woman is murdered is when she is trying to leave her abusive partner. Sooo I can't really force her to leave before she's ready. All I can do is keep my mouth shut and be ready to help her when she is ready to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 12:15 AM
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Oh I still wouldn't tell him. If he's being abusive he needs to go to jail, why does it matter at all if his girl friend is cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 11:06 PM
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Doctors refuse to treat people on a regular basis... doctors regularly refuse patients who don't have insurance or who don't have the insurance they prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 10:08 PM
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I do like the "best men" as in whoever I deem "best". But I won't be ready for marriage for another 5 years minimum! So should I just be celibate until then? I'm going to enjoy my life to the fullest, I don't want to have regrets. As for the number thing, I wouldn't worry about it. Focus on being sexually compatible and compatible in all other ways. Date until you feel like you know her inside and out! That might take a couple of years, but it will tell you much more than any single number would…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 10:07 PM
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I'm pretty attractive. I'm 22, white, fit, big butt. I lived in a college town in Texas until about 1.5 years ago, now I'm in a non college Texas town going to medical school. Why? Because I like flirting with hot people, I like the excitement of a first time, I like the novelty of a new person, I like the confidence that comes with getting affection from a hot guy, I like feeling wanted and sexy... oh and orgasms. I think I have a pic posted in my history.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 08:13 PM
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If you're a dick, the bakery can refuse service without a refund. If you go to a movie and break the rules, they can kick you out halfway through no refund. If you are a dick or break her rules, she can end the date early no refunds. How's that for "weak defenseless women"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 07:54 PM
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How would that work? Does every business have to serve you no matter what? Does every doctor have to treat you no matter what? Then why the hell would a prostitute be required to service you no matter what??
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 07:53 PM
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But mainstream feminism wants to legalize prostitution. It's very sex positive. Basically mainstream feminism is Miley Cyrus.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 07:39 PM
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Statistically, that's not true at all.... most men have what? 15 partners or less in their ent re lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 06:20 PM
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How am I refusing? I gave you one, the rainn.org one
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 06:19 PM
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So the FBI is "feminist" now? Every study is "feminist". Wow weird... seems like you're just dismissing everything you don't like as "feminist"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 06:00 PM
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What do you mean? I support it for everyone of both genders to participate in it however they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 05:58 PM
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I kind of think they do. It's a common sitcom trope that as soon as they get married the guy becomes a couch potato who drinks beer and only ever wants to go to the bar with his friends. She has to take care of him the kids the house all alone, and the romance that he had when they married is completely nonexistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 05:57 PM
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Nope. Feminist here, we have no problem with it. In fact, I actually support legalizing it because it makes it safer for women. She wouldn't need a pimp to enforce/protect her because the police could do it. Of course it would also help destigmatize sex for women. I don't know why the US hasn't legalized it yet, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 05:54 PM
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Dude. That is literally the law. You know that before you get divorce. You're not even making any argument, so I guess I'm right? You admit male rape victims have the same legal protections as women, AND that feminists do not have some "crazy" definition of rape. You only think that because you want some reason to dismiss feminism, but it's actually right. Seriously, critically think about feminism and rape. The statistics have been consistent for decades. It's always been 1/5 women are victims …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 05:49 PM
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Haha how can you say that when you have no idea how many guys I've slept with? I estimate I sleep with a new guy every month for the last 5 years. That's a hell of a lot more than most men do in their entire lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 05:42 PM
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Yes, if you are married you are obligated to split costs and money. He's not paying her, she's entitled to half of their married income. So he's basically threatening her with theft. Men have th exact same legal protection as women. Actually better if we are being honest. People assume women lie about rape, but assume men tell the truth and there are much more resources for dealing with male rape. Female rape is almost expected. Here is a story of a guy who got drunk and was raped and had his st…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 05:36 PM
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Feminists don't say "any drunk sex is rape" or "any threat is rape". But they can be! You say that threatening to leave someone isn't really rape? Uh yeah it can be. If a woman and her kids depend on her husband to take care of them, and the husband threatens to leave/withhold money or care, she is not sleeping with him because she wants to, she's doing it out of fear for her safety and well being. That is rape. And YES these same protections are applied to men!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 05:24 PM
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I'm a lot skinnier and younger than her ha So she is over the weight of today's models, over the waist measurements of today's models, but you're still insisting she's skinny?? She's chubby/curvy. Not skinny. Not athletic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 05:08 PM
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Threatening someone to have sex with you is rape. Coercion is rape. These are the legal definitions of rape, not ""feminist"" definitions. Oh, and you can still be raped with low levels of alcohol. It doesn't matter how drunk you are, rape is rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 05:07 PM
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http://imgur.com/GKgGa5D The legal definition is the only one ever used. Feminists don't make up their own definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 04:14 PM
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False! I am a woman like this!!! It's not even uncommon, women are just forced to pretend we don't like to sleep around because "slut" is considered a bad thing in our society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 03:41 PM
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I am one of these women. I have no idea what my n count is but it's well over 10. AMA
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 03:40 PM
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Monroe had a 28-32 inch waist. Models have a 22-26 inch waist. Numbers don't lie :) sorry not sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 03:28 PM
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How is that definition of rape feminist? What am I basing on feelings? You can't just dismiss points because you don't like them haha
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 03:28 PM
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I cited my source for rape earlier. Can you cite your source for your definition of "rape"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 03:27 PM
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Women get screwed in a divorce more than men do. Women often lose over half of their stuff, as well as a large chunk of their income. It's not expecting him to change, it's expecting him to stay the same. Did he take you on dates? Buy you flowers? Rub your feet? Keep the house clean? Then he better fucking keep doing that when you get married. You can't just let yourself go, or expect to be nagged.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 03:26 PM
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Look at picture of her. Look at pictures of models or even just skinny celebrities. Monroe has a chubby tummy (she was known for it) and cellulite thighs. She's not skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 03:23 PM
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If you aren't happy with your wife nagging, either do what she asks you or leave. You shouldn't have married her if she was a nagger. If you couldn't tell she was a nagger when you got married you fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 11:43 AM
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What are you talking about. Do you even know what rape is? It's not a "feeling". If both partners did not give consent, that is rape. Can you please give me a source of women who fall in love with their rapist? https://www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence Here's my source, where's yours? And why do you dismiss women's rape allegations? Do you know how rare false rape allegations are? Regret =! Rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 11:35 AM
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Nope. Where did you get that idea? I would consider that underweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 03:57 AM
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How did I "fuck with" the legal definition of rape? Women have a 1/6 chance of being raped, men have a 1/10 chance. What are you talking about? It's your destiny to fall in love with the first guy who rapes you? Hmm you do you I guess!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 03:41 AM
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That's still accurate. Curvy means not skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 03:39 AM
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No plus sized models are curvy. The girls on Instagram or whatever are also curvy. You can be curvy and still be hot. But curvy=! Athletic. You can't be curvy and skinny. They are opposites.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 03:05 AM
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How do women fall in love with guys who rape them? That doesn't even make sense. Feminism isn't based on "feels", it's based on facts. Like the fact that women are raped more often than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 03:03 AM
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The legal definition of rape... I don't think there's more than one. And I'm a feminist :) http://imgur.com/sN7O7dD
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 02:06 AM
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It's not an opinion. She is literally in the size range of today's plus sized models.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 02:04 AM
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Oh. Well I'm actually not really attracted to any other races. But I don't see why that would be a problem anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 11:58 PM
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What is a coal burner?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 11:24 PM
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Haha like what? My "slut history" made me amazing at blowjobs. No one I've been with has ever had a problem with it, including ltrs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 11:21 PM
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Fun fact: I'm a huge slut but you would never know it by looking at me. No tattoos, highly educated, upper middle class, straight A student in undergrad, etc. Don't judge a book by its cover.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 11:19 PM
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From the world girl, other animals, people, whatever danger may be heading your way unexpectedly. haha what the fuck. Where do you live where animals and people are attacking women?? I live in America, I need protection from people texting and driving and fucking up my taxes. A beta is much better suited to protect a woman than an alpha in todays society. If you're traveling together and get lost in a bad neighborhood, you'll appreciate having an alpha by your side Psh, so basically an alpha is …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 09:20 PM
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Sorry, you're not really changing my view :/ I shouldn't have to wait until I'm 40 for guy's to figure out how to work the clit. If a guy wants more ONS sex, he needs to be good in bed. I shouldn't have to hold his hand through every step.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 09:10 PM
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I understand telling a person what I like. I agree, there needs to be good communication. But there's a difference in telling someone what you like on a sandwich and having them make it, and having to walk someone through every step of making a sandwich, starting with the grocery shopping.... And I feel like most guys my age (under 25) don't even know how to get the ingredients to get the sandwich. Sorry for the crappy analogy, I hope you understand what I'm saying :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 08:56 PM
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I don't mind giving out a tip or two, but it seems like so many guys just don't even have the slightest clue what to do. I'm not trying to teach a whole sex session every time I get a new partner. Why don't more men know where the clitoris is and how to give oral sex? It seems like every girl knows how. I guess its just not shown in porn and guys don't care enough to google it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 08:43 PM
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Alphas keep you safe and protect you. Protect you from what? Alphas seem like the type of guys who would attack you in the first place. Maybe I'm a special snowflake or maybe I have just cracked why red pillers have such a problem with women, but alphas as you have described them are extremely unattractive to women. No woman would prefer an immature brute to an intelligent faithful guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 08:42 PM
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Oh okay, then why do most people say women like alphas? Women would definitely prefer a beta to an alpha. Status is subjective. The difference between branch swinging and cheating is just how you perceive the male she cheated with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 07:48 PM
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Oh gotcha. It's probably because I don't really buy into the whole "status" stuff. An alpha is just any guy you perceive as better than you. A beta is just someone you perceive as a shmuck. It's all subjective and not actually relevant to who women fall in love with or choose to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 07:24 PM
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Who said "people they can identify" counts as friends? The exact wording of my source says "About 85 to 90 percent of sexual assaults reported by college women are perpetrated by someone known to the victim; about half occur on a date. "
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 05:22 PM
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Okay you must be trolling at this point. I have stated several times, as does my source DATING=50% of rapes, FRIENDS/RELATIVES/BOYFRIEND: 90% I really can't be much clearer. If you still don't understand, I can't help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 05:20 PM
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So anytime a guy tries to get me alone he's a rapist? I'll remember that next time my boyfriend and I take the isolated corner booth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:58 PM
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Cops actually tell rape victims things like this. Cops. Yeah, that's fucked uo right? Google "slut walks", they were made in response to cops saying things like this, specifically telling women "not to dress like sluts". And that was in 2011 I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:53 PM
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Uh no my source clearly stated, in bold, in the very first sentence that 90% of people were dating, friends with, or related to their rapist. YOU are trolling haha but that's okay, you gave me a platform to show my research and ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:52 PM
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It specifically said "90% of women are raped by friends or relatives". Soo... yeah I wouldn't call a tinder match my "friend". 90% of women are raped by people they consider friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:30 PM
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Exactly! They are terrible tips! Let's stop passing them on! They don't work and only make women feel responsible for their rapes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:29 PM
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Dude... it doesn't matter what date you make out on. You can still be raped even on the 40th date. No, I don't like making out in public, fucking gross. So basically, you can't give me anyway that a woman can prevent a rape, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:28 PM
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Knowing someone CAN MEAN dating them haha I guess you can't argue any other point so you're picking on technicalities. Either provide a source showing a refute of my claim, or admit I'm correct :) thank you for the "debate"!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:27 PM
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Who is dating strangers? 90% of rapes happen between friends and relatives. Most dates (I don't have a stat but I'm sure you've seen them before) happen through work out mutual friends. Not tinder or online dates. They know the guy they are going on a date with, but they get raped anyway. There are no universal markers of rapists. Seriously. Can you name any?? What should women watch out for??
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:25 PM
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Yes it is very common. In fact, 90% of women knew their rapists as friends or even relatives. 50% of rapes happen on a date. Women don't knowingly hang out with rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:24 PM
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That is literally common advice given to women. "don't wear slutty clothes" -"don't be alone at a party" (50% of rapes happen on a date) -"don't go out at night" (6/10 rapes happen in her home or a family members home) "don't go off with a random guy" (90% of rapes are committed by a friend or relative) Most of the things we tell women to prevent rapes, actually wouldn't prevent their rape. It's fucked up, because it makes them feel like they did something wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:22 PM
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Wait wait wait. She shouldn't take a guy home if she doesn't want to have sex? Where do they make out? Where do they fool around? How do you get to sex without spending several dates making out and cuddling? What the fuck is the rest of your logic lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:15 PM
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Please cite your study where any and all drunk sex is rape. Is it rape for the guy or girl? It could just as easily be considered male rape... Yes, you can be in a dating situation, but you don't have to be. When I say "90% knew their rapist" that can be dating but it doesn't have to be. 50% were on a date, up to 90% were dating. The 40% difference could still be dating, or they could relatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:13 PM
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But you can't ever tell if someone is a rapist until they rape. Seriously, what does a rapist look like? My own sexual assault (which wasn't rape, but was attempted) happened with a guy I had known for YEARS. All through high school we were in the same friend group. We hung out 2-3x a week for years. He asked if he could sleep on my couch while he was in my college town for the weekend. I said sure, I trust him right? I've eaten dinner with his parents! Nope. It doesn't matter how well you know …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:11 PM
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Drunk sex isn't always rape... no one is claiming it is. That is not apart of the definition of rape. Dude, you're so confused. Focus. 50% of rapes occur on dates. 90% occur from a friend or boyfriend or relative. I have stated that perfectly clearly in all of my comments, how are you still confused? If you think differently, please provide sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:01 PM
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I watched the first season! He plays such a good bad-boy-with-a-heart-of-gold. When he was in Magic Mike I fell in love, too bad he's gay irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 03:59 PM
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How are you getting the conclusion that she is willingly taking him home and having sex with him? It's rape, it's nonconsentual by definition 6/10 women had a guy follow them to their homes or relatives homes after a date and that's their fault? Or break into their home and rape them and that's their fault? Wtf....
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 03:58 PM
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How are you confused? 90% of rapes happen between a man and a woman who are friends/ dating/ relatives/ whatever 50% of rapes happen on a date Does that clarify things? So how would women prevent either situation? And yes, rapes are extremely under reported, it's actually closer to 1/3 college women being raped. http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4310765 Rapes are incredibly under reported in part because people think it has to be a stranger in the bushes type of rape, they don't realize their husba…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 03:56 PM
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So if someone rapes me, it's my fault for being drunk? Consenting to drinking =! Consent to have sex. It doesn't have to be "a habit" of getting shitfaced. It doesn't even need to be shitfaced. Maybe you did ask your friend to watch your back... and then he raped you instead. What now? Is it still the woman's fault somehow?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 03:51 PM
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http://www.sarsonline.org/resources-stats/reports-laws-statics 4/10 take place in her own home, 2/10 in a friends home. So again, how do you stop these? No matter how many texts you send, you still have no way of knowing if the guy will rape you. No matter where you go on your date, he can follow you home and rape you. Please, give me any way a woman could prevent this. Take 10 years of self defense classes, carry a gun at all times, and never go on dates? Hmmm anything that would actually allow…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 03:48 PM
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No, rapes are actually extremely under reported. Not over reported. Not inflated. 50% of all rapes take place on a date. How do you prevent those? Seriously, what should women do? Not ever date? Not ever consume alcohol? Because obviously, "don't walk down a dark street" isn't helping 90% of cases. "Don't wear slutty clothes" isn't changing 90% of cases. So how can women prevent 90% of rapes?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 03:44 PM
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http://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/rape-sexual-violence/campus/pages/know-attacker.aspx 90% occur between people they know, about 50% occur on a date So how do we prevent those? Women just shouldn't go on dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 03:35 PM
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But most rapes don't involve alcohol, so how would that stop most rapes? And everyone gets drunk... every single person has gotten more drunk than they expected to. And where can a woman drink where there aren't men around? Just her own home. So what you're really saying is women just shouldn't drink at all. Because if she goes to a bar and has 1 too many, any random guy could rape her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 03:32 PM
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90% of rapes happen between a man the woman knows in a dating situation. How would not wearing slutty clothes or not walking alone at night prevent this? It wouldn't. The only option for women to prevent rapes is to never go on dates or have male friends. saudiarabia2016
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 03:00 PM
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Yeah women should just be taught to never leave the house or go on dates. Since you know, 90% of all rapes take place between someone she knows. /s You know things like "don't wear slutty clothes" have been proven to not lower rapes even a little bit? Because a rapist doesn't care what you wear or how much you drink. There will always be someone wearing less, on a darker street, with less friends around. Rapists will always rape. The things we tell women to do to avoid rape don't actually change…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 02:54 PM
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Matt Bomer. I love light eyes, darker hair, and a little scruff. http://imgur.com/kPxtLMO
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 02:51 PM
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But women are allowed to do that! Who doesn't want to look good? If I had an ass like Kim K I would squeeze it into some jeans to make me look hot too. But that doesn't give anyone the right to sexually harass me. That is still wrong. If a girl walks out of the house looking like a slut does she deserve cat calls and butt grabs? If you walk out of the house looking like a piece of shit do you deserve insults and face punches? Same thing. Someone else's appearance doesn't control your actions, yo…
/r/MGTOW26/10/16 02:09 PM
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Uh you are the one who pulled race into lol "girls can't get their hair wet" yeah BLACK GIRLS. White girls can get their hair wet. And all swimmers wear swim caps anyway?? Acting like you're naked is fine. Sexual harassment isn't. Making unwanted sexual comments isn't. That's literally illegal. It's not illegal to post naked pictures, it is illegal to sexually harass someone.
/r/MGTOW26/10/16 01:55 PM
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What are you talking about? The girl isn't black.... Anyway, the point is, maybe she really is into cosplay and people shouldn't make sexual comments on her Facebook anyway. Even if she was butt ass naked, is she really asking too much? "Please don't sexually harass me", I think every human should be able to do that.
/r/MGTOW26/10/16 01:45 PM
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Yeah, people generally swim in the smallest, tightest suits they can to keep their times down.
/r/MGTOW26/10/16 01:29 PM
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Uh yeah you can. Who is stopping you? Why can't you? In fact the default should be to not post sexual comments on people's pictures because that shit is public. Even if you were her boyfriend she probably wouldn't want all her friends and family knowing how hot you think she looks.
/r/MGTOW26/10/16 01:28 PM
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Oh I agree, that has a ton of pros and cons long term and the practicality of making that work would be more effort than it's worth. I was speaking strictly in an ideal fantasy world kind of way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 01:01 PM
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Alright I'll be the voice of reason. Why is this a bad picture? The character she is cosplaying is very sexual, so I think she's doing a great job representing Croft. If a woman was swimming because she loved swimming, is it okay for us to assume she wants attention in her bathing suit? No, she might genuinely like to swim and that's what you have to wear to swim. Same thing with this cosplay. She might genuinely like doing cosplay and there aren't a lot of characters out there that wear a burka…
/r/MGTOW26/10/16 12:26 PM
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I guess I don't really understand what the difference in cheating and branch swinging is. Branch swinging you actually leave your partner? They both seem very similar. After all, I'm sure branch swinging involved cheating before deciding to leave for good, and I'm sure some guys fall for the women they have affairs with. Maybe I don't understand what branch swinging is ha sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 12:23 PM
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Uh okay who the fuck cares what body type you like? Marilyn Monroe would not be considered "skinny" or "athletic" by today's standards. She would be "chubby" or "curvy".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 12:21 PM
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As most of you know, I am female. That sounds like the perfect relationship to me too! I would love for him to be monogamous while I still get to fuck the occasional random guy. I think most people would say that is the "perfect" relationship. Is that biological? Probably to some extent. But it's not limited to men and I don't think "branch swinging" is limited to women. A large majority of both genders like being mostly monogamous, but would still like to occasionally explore other relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 12:15 PM
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Yup and I said that in my original comment. If their "workout" is a walk or they eat like shit they wouldn't be curvy. Thanks for arguing with me for 2 days only to agree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 09:38 PM
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Haha I know, having multiple logical points is hard to keep track! I'm pointing out that how we see skinny now is not Marilyn Monroe skinny. We would consider her "chubby" or "curvy" today, not athletic or skinny
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 09:28 PM
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Okay. Any my point is that curvy and athletic are not the same body type, and "curvy" doesn't work out 5x a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 09:27 PM
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It's so far away it doesn't matter. So shes a size 10, that's still nowhere near a 00. http://imgur.com/rddxOl2 Don't pretend you live under a rock. This is what a normal model looks like today, and runway models are much skinner. Look at Marilyn Monroe. She doesn't look anything like what we consider "skinny" today.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 05:42 PM
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Average woman =! Models A size 12 is still much, much bigger than a size 00. Not even close, even if the sizes have adjusted to obesity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 05:07 PM
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Okay your source says she was really a size 12. And look at the picture posted in YOUR source! She's chubby by today's standards. Our society is obsessed with thinness and our models are sizes 00-4. There's no way in hell a size 12 would ever be considered "skinny" today.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 03:09 PM
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Marilyn Monroe is regularly criticized for being too fat for today's standards lol. Today, our models are a size 00. Marilyn Monroe was a size 16. She was a sex symbol in her time, but if she existed today she would be considered "fat". I know curvy = chubby. So you can't be curvy and athletic. They are different body types.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 10:16 AM
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Uh yes your tits will go away if you lose weight lol. Boobs are almost completely fat. You can't control where your calories are burned from... Look at any skinny girl, let's say a bmi of 20-22... no boobs. You just can't have large fat stores on your hips and breast and not have any fat stored in your tummy and thighs and everywhere else. Also, im a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 10:14 AM
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Dude just google it, you can see before and after pictures. She's also had numerous facial plastic surgeries.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 04:03 AM
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She is skinny. She has surgery and injections to give her "curves". You don't naturally have large stores of fat on your chest and hips while also having a flat tummy...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 03:31 AM
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That's what I'm saying. You can't say $100k is a "great job" because in some places it's not. That's just an average professional salary
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 12:37 AM
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Depends on your field and where you live. Nurses in LA make that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 10:17 PM
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Nikki Minaj has fake boobs and butt. Because you literally can't look like that naturally lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 10:16 PM
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Apparently all you have to do to be in the top 0.45% of men is not be fat, and have a decent job.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 09:25 PM
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Yeah and Marilyn Monroe was a size 16 and is considered "chubby" by today's standards. https://aperfectbodyhascurves.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/marilyn-monroe-1951.jpg?w=1000&h=597 I mean obviously, boobs are made of fat, not muscle. So you can't be muscular or athletic and have big stores of fat on your chest.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 09:24 PM
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Curvy is different than athletic. Someone who works out 5x a week should be athletic... unless they eat like complete shit and their "workout" is a short walk lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 08:22 PM
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God damn men have it easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 08:20 PM
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I'm a woman lol you can trust me. Dicks really aren't that great, I can buy one that vibrates for $30. You become a memorable partner by how you act outside of the bedroom. But if all you have to offer is your dick, she's just going to pump and dump you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 08:12 PM
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Well no dicks are special lol its about the guy attached to the dick. Maybe worry less about her N count and more about your personality and you will be able to get a great girl!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 07:20 PM
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But... virtually no one is marrying virgins anymore. This isn't a hollywood phenomenon. Only 4% of women are virgins when they get married. And thats self reported! So if anything, thats a high estimation. Sorry dude, good luck finding your unicorn, but you have to accept that not everyone thinks the way you do. Some guys genuinely want a wife who is a freak and they don't care if she fucked 100 guys because they like her sluttiness. They like that she posts half naked pictures everyday and wear…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 06:44 PM
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Thats awesome, good for you! I also have a STEM degree and the guys definitely don't wear cargo shorts, but they also aren't usually the most attractive guys in the room. Which is fine, they have other things to offer! I'm not sure what your point is though. That women like men who stay in shape? Yes, I agree! and since 3/4 of men are overweight by the time they are 50, staying in shape can give you a huge advantage over other men, I completely agree. Stay in shape, don't get a felony, and have …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 06:37 PM
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I mean.... that idea isn't really reflected in our culture though.... Slutty cheerleaders become sorority girls who date frat guys and then become trophy wives. We don't ostracize sluts, we celebrate them to some extent. Sooo... apparently society agrees more with my view than yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 06:32 PM
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And the type of woman that guy would marry is going to be a woman who doesn't want her husband licking a hundred vaginas. It's about compatibility. A virgin is not better or worse than a slut, but different people prefer different things. People who like sex and outgoing personalities like sluts. People who like meek women and vanilla sex like virgins. And that's okay :) one is not better than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 06:22 PM
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Oh do you have a source to support your claim? People can have a high n count for a variety of reasons. For instance, someone who had 10 partners from 17-20 probably isn't that big of a deal when she gets married at 30. And on the flip side, a woman who doesn't enjoy sex will have a very low n count, but she's probably not a good partner for most guys (or at least red pill guys) So again, just get to know your partner. If there are any indicators of a bad partner, you will see that manifest in o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 06:08 PM
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I am a feminist, let me straighten you out on some misconceptions you have. Feminists do not think marriage is oppressive. It CAN be. And if it is, feminism just wants to make sure women have the ability to get out. As a feminist, I agree that children are best raised in a stable relationship. Feminists just don't think that needs to be marriage. Women with high n counts make just as good of partners as women with low n counts or men with high n counts. There are MUCH more important qualities to…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 04:56 PM
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Yeah for sure. As their SMV increases I hypothesize their partners SMV would increase as well. Not sure how we would measure that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 02:53 PM
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No thanks, I'm into monogamy for life. I've been with my partner for over 2.5 years and he still gives me tingles. It's not a physical thing, I love his intellect and personality, so i will never stop getting "tingles" from him. And if I do I will work on the relationship, not run off to some corner of the Internet to bitch about how entitled I am and how I "deserve" a 13 year old virgin slave wife because I have a STEM degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 02:30 PM
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Dude, all you had to say was that those were people's names. I googled that shit in 5 seconds. You wrote 10 paragraphs and still didn't answer the question. But you did manage to call yourself a "selfish cunt", so thanks for the laugh I guess!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 02:18 PM
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Uhhhh okay I don't know what you're saying ha
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 02:00 PM
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Agreed. What we should do is have some sort of study. Get a bunch of guys and tell them they have to focus at least 1 hour a day on their appearance. They can take that however they want and do anything for 1 hour a day to be more attractive. I'm sure some will workout, some will spend that hour in front of the mirror, some will shop and buy new clothes or products. Then at the end of day, 1 year, they tally up all the dates they've gone on, women they've slept with, numbers they've gotten and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 01:59 PM
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Roosh?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 01:53 PM
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Still, more women are staying single for their entire lives than ever before. Also, waiting until your older to get married isn't a bad thing. If you get married before 20, you have a 32% chance of getting divorced within five years. That risk cuts in half if you wait until you're 25-30. http://imgur.com/HgTSBIa
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 01:53 PM
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How am I the one that's not thinking critically?? You haven't provided any sources for me to look at! You literally said yourself they don't exist. You have ZERO facts/statistics/data to back up your claim. Thinking critically =! Making shit up
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 01:50 PM
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Are women really looking for commitment now though? I feel like my generation isn't at least, and that's pretty much what statistics back up. We wait longer to have kids/marriage and many of us aren't striving for that at all, but are instead picking a career or even IVF over a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 12:12 AM
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Pretty much the part where she doesn't even keep her own name... it doesn't get much more "ownership" than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 12:10 AM
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Alright let me recap what you have said: I have looked for studies even regarding female pedophiles and barely found anything on them. Then wheres your source that this is an epidemic? Female teachers sleeping with underage students isn't something academia exactly going to study and produce numbers on Uhhhh that is exactly something that has very clear cut numbers. Its not even an "academia" thing, crime statistics are reported and published. If you can't find any evidence of this happening, ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 11:18 PM
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Dude every time I talk to you it's like you're high. You say women are causing an "epidemic" of child abuse, but then you also go on to say that it's not in the news? So that's directly against the OP and a huge conspiracy theory... it's like Trump saying the election is rigged. Unless you can give me some evidence to back that up, don't expect me to just believe you that the world is all in on a conspiracy to make women look good lol. The truth is, when women do commit a crime like this is make…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 10:42 PM
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First of all, let's be clear. The wife doesn't want to "change" their husbands. They want their husbands to stay the same. When you marry a guy in law school who says he's going to make $x and takes her out every weekend and then 10 years go by and he's overweight and spends 3x a week drinking beer and you haven't had a date in months.... that's how nagging happens. So the wives don't want to change their husbands. They want their husbands to be who they pretended to be when dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 06:41 PM
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What are the main differences?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 05:12 PM
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Eh. First of all, I don't think many people are "sexless shrews". These housewives want to have sex, they just don't want to have sex with a guy who feels like a roommate or brother. Secondly, does the redpill say that men should help out more around the house? Take their wife on a spontaneous date? Buy her flowers for no reason? Yes getting in shape and putting effort into your appearance is going to help anyway get laid, but if it's your LTR, it's also going to require some TLC and that's what…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 04:12 PM
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You are the one complaining about women nagging men. It has been that way since the beginning of time. Don't have such an idealized view of marriage and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 04:09 PM
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¯_(ツ)_/¯ I don't think "challenge" is the same thing as verbal abuse. As far as relationships with "ball busting women" go, I don't think those are the norm. I think it is much more common that the husband drinks more, spends more time with his friends, and takes her on less dates than when they were dating. The woman isn't trying to "change" the man, she just wants him to be the same guy he was before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 03:27 PM
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Because most people don't challenge themselves. Most people aren't straight A students, they settle for a Bs. I mean if you just want someone to not ever bring up new ideas or want different experiences, I'm sure there are people out there like that. But most people willingly choose partners who have different tastes than them and challenge them to try new things and grow as a person. It's easy to get complacent in your life and never take that crazy vacation to Europe or never ask for that prom…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 02:38 PM
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I didn't assume anything. That's just part of being compatible. That's why people should date for years before getting married and shouldn't get married before 25. You want to know who you are and what you want so that you and your spouse agree on how much money you want to make and how important is time off. There's no blanket answer to that. A neurosurgeon might want a wife who encourages him to take time off. A guy who recognizes he is lazy may want a wife who is going to be on his tail and p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 02:34 PM
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Again, as long as it is a positive change being enforced in s positive way, I don't see a problem with it. Now some people are more driven than others and that can be a problem. My first year of med school I was dating a senior in undergrad and he simply did not want to go to med school, he wanted to smoke pot and be a skiing instructor with a college degree. So we broke up! He wasn't a bad guy at all, but we both would have been really unhappy. It's okay to breakup if you don't have the same go…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 01:53 PM
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So guys are allowed to cheat when they want to get off but women aren't? You know women and men have equal sex drives, so if a wife is denying her husband sex it's probably because he got fat or is bad in bed, right? I mean, it takes a lot to not want sex for weeks at a time. How are women worse than men in every way? Please use sources. I happen to know that women cheat less than men so there's one way women are better, let me find you a source
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 01:31 PM
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In both of those situations the "nagging" is actually verbal abuse... so no, I do not support verbal abuse or making your partner feel bad about themselves. Here's what I have seen usually happen: GF: oh you're going out again tonight for the third time this week? Don't you have that big project due Monday? Boyfriend: okay guys my girlfriend says I can't go out Friends: WOW SO MANIPULATIVE1!1!1!1!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 01:29 PM
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Serious question. I want you to either admit you're a misogynist because you treat women worse than men and assume worse things about women, or agree that men and women are equal and you would tell on either one because they are both shitty friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 01:17 PM
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Honestly, you should want someone to push you and challenge you. For instance, I dated this guy who did cross fit. Now, when we started dating I was playing soccer and running, but he was definitely more focused on fitness than I was. Anyway, over the course of our relationship he kept nagging me to workout with him, and I got in the best shape of my life! It was frustrating at first because I did not want to do it, but there were huge benefits. Obviously, if the SO is encouraging something harm…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 01:13 PM
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lol I'm doing the opposite. My guy has no fashion sense and thinks "matching" is wearing the exact same color. I don't know if any women trying to convince their guy to wear crocs with socks, and we all know that's the real way to repel women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 01:08 PM
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It would depend on the situation. Most of the time, yes, regardless of gender. But... if he was abusive or had cheated himself, I would be more likely to encourage her to cheat or leave him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 01:03 PM
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What if a guy friend cheated on his wife? Would you still stop being his friend because men are shit friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 01:01 PM
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The Stanford rapist unfortunately made headlines because of his lack of jail time and extremely light sentencing. Not because women are more likely to rape? Not even sure what your point was, you got off topic again. Your argument is that women dont make headlines for this kind of thing? Because the OP is stating the exact opposite lol he says it's an "epidemic". So again, not sure what your point is? False rape accusations are between 2-8% according to the FBI. So basically, ever rape story you…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 12:49 PM
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Uhhh whites have done terrible things too, like slavery and the holocaust and almost all mass shootings. I am also using technology invented by women (wifi).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 07:38 PM
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Okay then please provide me a source that says women do this sort of thing more often than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 02:35 PM
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Women end up in the news because it is so rare for a woman to be a rapist or serial killer or commit any violent crime. Can you please provide a source that says women are more likely to do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 02:27 PM
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Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 06:27 AM
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Because it shows that men are more likely to exhibit this behavior than women. So if it is "hypergamy" males are apparently practicing it more than females.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 06:08 AM
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Then the premise of this thread is flawed. This is much more common in men than women. http://www.vocativ.com/usa/education-usa/teacher-student-sex-crimes-become-national-crisis/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 05:30 AM
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So if it doesn't do any damage, what's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 05:00 AM
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She's on Dr. Phil because it's so rare for female teachers to be predators. It is much more likely for males.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 04:42 AM
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Can you give me some sort of source for that? And again, just because the guy is attractive doesn't mean he's dumb or a terrible person. Yes, women are dating for longer periods of time now. I'll have to look up a source, but now people date for 2 years or so before marriage. In the 50s people would date for 6 months and get married at 19.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 02:20 AM
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Looks =! Stupid Why do you think women pick their mates based on looks more than men do? I think everyone basis quite a bit on looks. In general though, I think we as a society are getting better about reproduction. Now that we have birth control and condoms and women have more power in who they choose to have kids with, women tend to date for longer periods of time and have kids later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 05:36 AM
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No?? She gets the hot guy, the main character. And yeah... sluts can have hearts of gold and virgins can be assholes. Sexual history =! How nice someone is
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 03:09 AM
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A lot of guys do actually. A lot of guys really value sex in their relationships so they don't want to be with someone who is a virgin and will only have sex in perfect circumstances. They want someone who likes sex as much as them. That's why the hot slutty cheerleader type is so popular in movies. A decent amount of guys want that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 02:56 AM
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Who you giving your sperm to if no women exist? We have enough sperm to last is centuries. Try bearing kids, that's an actual resource we don't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:55 AM
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Everyone picks the best person they can be with. Men are less selective than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 09:57 PM
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How does female selection do a piss poor job? The bottom x% of men don't reproduce. Almost all women reproduce. The men are the one that suck with selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 08:38 PM
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No I'm really not. Please debate me, I would love to challenge your views on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 08:37 PM
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Nursing school is pretty difficult, just saying. And the amount of male nurses and teachers we have would be nowhere near the amount we would need. So we would need major adjustments in the work force. And by that logic, there is no job that a man does that a woman could not do. Work construction equipment? Women can do that. Play football? Oh wait we don't need that lol. Name 1 job women can't do and I'll find you a woman who has done that job.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 06:20 PM
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I agree that everyone with less than desirable genetics should not have kids, but how do we make it more equal between the genders? Things like government forced sterilization or matching is not realistic. Realistically, I believe our best bet would be to make contraception as accessible and affordable as possible. That would encourage people who didn't have the resources or desire to have kids to not be put in a position to accidentally have them. Do you have any other ideas of how we can keep …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 06:11 PM
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Not true, you have to have the looks and status to go with alpha. No one is going to think the guy working at McDonalds is alpha no matter how he acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 06:06 PM
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You're delusional. Incels are incels by choice, stop spamming.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 05:57 PM
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Explain why... I mean you can't deny women make up the majority of nurses, teachers, and childcare workers, right? So... obviously there would be huge disruptions in society. How would anyone function without their medical care? Doctors are not on most hospital floors, that is run by nurses. How would we function without educating our children? There's just no way the world could function without women without monumental changes. And of course, society would cease to exist without our reproducti…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 05:32 PM
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Care to elaborate? The point of this sub is to debate...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 04:53 PM
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That's what I'm saying, I don't think the advice should be "just be yourself and everything will fall into place". It should be "relationships still take work and compromise, and you should put reasonable effort into being attractive, but ultimately don't pretend to be something you're not to be attractive to Stacy Cheerleader because you'll be happier in the long run if you find someone you're genuinely compatible with". But that's kind of long :/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 03:18 PM
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That's awesome, congrats :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 03:03 PM
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Blue pill definitely doesn't think that way lol attracting a gold digger is not a blue pilled idea. Dating someone 2 years younger is fine in blue pilled world! Blue pulled ideas are stuff like: I'm going to work hard for my future wife and she will love me for who I am, not because of the money, and we will both be equally attractive to each other. Red pills ideas are like: I'm going to work hard so I can get a model for my trophy wife
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 02:58 PM
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Someone told you that??? That's terrible! Even from just the standpoint of someone concerned about your health, losing weight is generally a good idea...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 02:54 PM
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Honestly, this is great advice. The problem comes when people take it to mean "don't ever try to improve or change at all, you're perfect as is". No, it means don't try to be something your not (basically the opposite of the red pill). If you like dungeons and dragons, don't pretend that you don't and try to be the high school quarterback. But maybe don't spend every weekend playing dungeons and dragons and then complain about how you never meet any girls... it's just a balance. It's not bad adv…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 02:52 PM
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Haha wtf you knew you couldn't get with anyone younger than you but you still thought you could get with models??
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 02:47 PM
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Name 1 job that only men can do. Seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 02:44 PM
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No I literally never have haha
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 02:43 PM
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Source? Mostly for the attraction thing :) I worked at a camp and we joked about "camp googles". Any guy that shows he is good with kids is 100x more attractive. If a husband is a good, attentive dad (not just throwing the baseball but giving him bathes too) he will be much more attractive to his wife. If you ever go on r/deadbedrooms one of the biggest problems is women do much more of the childcare than men and resent their husbands for it. If you want to stay happily married, you will split c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 02:43 PM
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Yeah children is kind of a huge thing... also women make up 40% of the work force lol society could not continue without either gender unless huge adjustments were made, and then society could go on without either gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 02:40 PM
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I don't think those things reflect class. Most people in college like to drink, party, and "get naughty". A lot of high class people are alcoholics or sex addicts. I think class more has to do with respecting others and yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 03:22 AM
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I agree. We have way more people on this planet than we need and it's not like there are jobs that only men could do. It would just take an adjustment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 03:16 AM
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Okay calm down. I don't think they meant "women don't need men" as in all men can disappear right now and the world wouldn't skip a beat. I think she just meant these particular women do not need men in their lives in a romantic way. I'm sure they still appreciate and need their male plumber. Also, you know society would collapse if women just disappeared as well, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 01:32 AM
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Most feminists are not WGTOW. I'm a feminist and was active in the community in undergrad and this is the first im even hearing of WGTOW. Feminism doesn't encourage singleness or anti men, it just encourages capable and empowered women who don't need a man. Independence =! Aversion. Anecdotally, I'm at the age where everyone seems to be pairing up and most of my feminist friends are married/ltr.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 01:27 AM
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But those aren't the only two choices... you can have children and a career. Dad should still do 50% of the childcare for his own kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 01:24 AM
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Agreed. In a relationship, whoever has the lower libido or less time or whatever the constraint may be is the gatekeeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 03:29 PM
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I actually considered it when I was like 19 and going through a rebellious phase in my undergrad. I made a profile on a sugar baby website and had a guy who lived in Canada message me. He said he would pay for my college, rent, spending money, etc. and I realized I was already taking care of that stuff... so I didn't need to be on this website lol You don't really make that much. You make much more if you go to college, study, and have a career. Unless you do full on sex work (porn+ prostitution…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 05:40 AM
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That's a terrible analogy though, because it's not the food making the decision to force you to eat, it's you. When someone sexually assaults you, that isn't you making the decision, that's them... so it makes sense that we put laws in place to protect people. If we have a particularly vulnerable population (like women), who have a consistent history of being attacked by another group (like how a huge % of women are sexually harassed, by men), it makes sense to have laws that protect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 01:40 AM
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Jesus, I feel so bad for you! I don't know what type of guys you've been with but the average penis size is 5-6 inches, NOT 3-4! Also, 6 months is a long time to wait! Do you mind me asking what culture you're from and maybe your age range?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 11:11 PM
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Meh. My preference is like 6.5-7.5 and I consider myself a little bit of a size queen. Anything over 8 is going to hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 11:07 PM
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Fun fact: vagina sizes actually vary more than penis sizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 11:05 PM
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We're the girls calling you hot 10s or 6s? This might be an insane thought, but women actually don't share 1 mind. We all like different things. There is no "Chad" because every woman has a different idea of what is attractive. You might be someone's 10 but they might be your 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 09:45 PM
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Uh.. you can like those things about your boyfriend and also think he's hot? Lol you can actually like someone's personality and think they are hot. Everyone likes hot people. Don't act like women have lied to you about not liking hot guys. Every Disney prince is a babe.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 09:39 PM
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I actually saw that you lived in West Texas in another comment! I went to TTU for undergrad in lbk and am currently at their medical school in another city. It definitely could be the circles I run in. I'm in my 20s so it seems like everyone is getting married, but I don't know anyone taking their spouses name. I literally know 1 female doctor who took her husbands name, and they got married before she became a doctor. Every other one either hyphenated or didn't bother changing it. So that's jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 09:22 PM
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Yeah I guess I mean that if he expects me to marry him he better not make a big deal out of my last name. He can take mine if he wants the same last name, but he needs to respect my decision. No "convincing" or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 06:54 PM
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Yeah I mean probably 30% still do and another good chunk will hyphenate with their husbands, but it's definitely not standard practice and it doesn't mean she's a "feminist". Not that there's anything wrong with being a feminist :) Also, it would be a deal breaker for me if my guy threw a tantrum about me not taking his name
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 05:23 PM
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I'm not sure where you're from, but where I live (Texas USA) most women don't change their names when they get married. It's not a "feminist" thing, it's just an outdated practice. But to be fair, I'm a professional and a lot of people won't change their name if they are already established in their career. I won't change mine because... why would I? He can take my last name if he wants but my last name is unique and I like it :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 05:16 PM
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Not kiss you. Grab your dick just because she's rich and she knows she won't get in trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 09:31 PM
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What are the core tenets of the red pill? Because I agree that the common sense part of the red pill is great, but the underlying misogyny that is the core of trp is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 09:27 PM
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I wouldn't say we have been accepting long enough to know. We just legalized gay marriage. The same men who are getting married still grew up 20-30 years ago, being bullied and taught how wrong homosexuality was. I think we need a generation raised in an accepting society before we can say which group has the most suicide and drug problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 02:29 PM
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There are multiple posts on this sub even where men are talking about how they are entitled to sex. It's a little different when they admit to it themselves. However, I don't see any women talking about how they came from good families but got destroyed by their intense need to get likes on Instagram selfies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 02:07 PM
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But those aren't the only two options lol Without enough info, there a million ways this could play out but here is two: He can persist and she still says no and tells their mutual friends he is making her uncomfortable (depends on the situation) He can leave it alone and she can see that he respects that decision and it leaves a good taste in her mouth. Then the next time they go out, she sleeps with him
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 12:35 AM
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Please give me an example lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 12:16 AM
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When did I ever say I knew what it was like to be a guy? How does feminism say what it's like to be a guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 10:58 PM
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Hi feminist here. I'm even a pretty radical one. And I would still nicely reject guys that hit on my in grocery stores or whatever. Even us "whackjobs" don't yell rape just for approaching us. It's touching us or continuing to do something after we have said we aren't interested that is the whole sexual harassment thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 09:07 PM
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Ah the way to win a red piller argument: don't have an argument insist they are stupid win argument, right??
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 02:24 PM
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Well I'm a pretty attractive woman and that has not been my experience at all. I have to put in a ton of effort into my appearance everyday, especially if I am trying to meet someone. Then, the guys I approach usually have a girlfriend or are just looking for a ONS (which I am not opposed to, but that isn't how you have good sex). I'm sure it's harder the uglier you are, but I don't think it's different by gender. Hot/above average men have an easy time getting dates. Hot/above average women hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 02:21 PM
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If you can't debate, what are you doing on this thread? "Read my sub" is not an argument. Provide sources to a logical argument or don't bother posting :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 02:15 PM
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Why would an alpha be on the red pill? lol wouldn't he not need it since he's naturally successful with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 02:08 PM
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How can you observe someone "succumb to attention"? Did they give up their entire lives in the search of fb likes? Lol he didn't even give an example, he is literally making shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 02:07 PM
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Exactly it's their imagination. I don't pretend to know what guys think/are taught because I'm not a guy, so I would look pretty stupid trying to guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 02:06 PM
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How so? I mean you're probably right on some level. But at least I'm seeking validation for my ideas :) I dont post half naked pics on instagram for likes like OP says all women do lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 11:43 AM
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Nope, just me. One more woman's experience than OP is describing :) You'll never find a woman who lives like OP describes. Look at all the women in this thread calling OP out. He just has no idea what it's like to be a woman, so everything he described is... pretty ridiculous. We should really make a rule on this sub you can't post what you assume the other gender to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 11:41 AM
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He is literally saying "women think" and "women are taught". How would he know?? Unless he says "I observe women doing this", he is making shit up. He is pulling these words from his imagination lol and pretending it holds value.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 11:37 AM
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I don't post picture or statuses or use it to seek any sort of validation like OP is accusing women of.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 11:36 AM
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Okay so OP isn't using any data. He isn't even using anecdotal since he's not a woman. He is straight up making shit up. So doesn't my actual experience trump his made up one?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 11:35 AM
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I'll post a pic of me! But why do you need to judge women's appearance to know if they give good dating advice? TRP has admitted they are all betas and guys still take their advice for some reason ha
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 11:34 AM
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Yeah I'm not an outlier. I'm a normal, average woman. What OP posted is completely incorrect assumptions about how we are treated and how we live our lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 08:21 PM
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The last time I posted a status/picture/ anything was probably 2013. That is what I mean by "I don't use Facebook", I still have a Facebook.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 08:12 PM
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I never said "I have never onced used Facebook"! God, if you have to blatantly lie to prove your point, YOURE WRONG.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 08:08 PM
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I have a Facebook, my computer has the password memorized, I even have the messenger app on my phone, but I do not regularly open Facebook. Good try though :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 08:07 PM
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I'm not an outlier though. Any my real life experience trumps his fantasy one. He is not a woman, he is just guessing at our lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 08:06 PM
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Pretty much everything you said about women is wrong. I am a woman. I was not raised to think I was "perfect", I don't even have an Instagram to post selfies to, never use Facebook, and the only thing I post selfies on is snapchat, where there is no way to get likes, and posting selfies is still fairly rare. Finally, you're completely underestimating how hard it is to find someone whenever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 06:51 PM
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Basically, women don't need men's money anymore, so men need to do something else to attract women. Put more effort into their looks, get extremely rich, whatever, but just making money isn't enough anymore because women can do that themselves. I don't think women manipulate men for sex though. I also don't think women have a lower sex drive considering multiple studies show that women masturbate and think about sex just as much as men. The difference is, women are taught (actually expected) to …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 06:28 PM
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Not at all! Men can be as picky as they want, in fact as a feminist, I encourage it! Men should take responsibility for the women they date instead of whining "awalt" when they use money to get women interested and it turns out the woman isn't that into them. And then women wouldn't be considered "the gatekeepers" to sex and have the responsibility of being a slut or a prude. It's a win win for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 11:37 AM
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Nope. Pua tactics that TRP encourages (such as negging, slut shaming, dread game) that make a woman feel forced to sleep with a guy, not want to, are misogynistic. Sexual strategy would be advice like: find a girl making lots of eye contact and go strike up a conversation. Don't talk about politics or your ex, try to come up with an excuse to tell your favorite joke. TRP advice is like: find a victim without a male guard. Go grab her body to show her she is desirable. If she protests call her an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 11:06 AM
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But don't you think a doll that can't move would get pretty boring? It seems like just one step above masturbating.
/r/MGTOW11/10/16 02:31 AM
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That's literally not the definition of naked lol you can't just re define words They can look, and then I can shame them and yell at them for looking. If they break the social contract, so can I.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 06:56 PM
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Lol wtf you haven't given me enough substance to your argument for me to feign ignorance! if you can't back up your claims, that's not me being ignorant... thats you projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 05:30 PM
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But I don't care if other people see me as hot, it's about how I feel
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 05:29 PM
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The fact that this statement is causing so much outrage, especially from women, is kind of proof you cant get away with it. Women do care. A lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 05:22 PM
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Uh maybe because I look fucking hot in them and I like looking hot? It makes me feel confident? If I just wanted male attention I wouldn't bother with expensive clothes, I would just walk around naked.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 05:17 PM
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I'm not sure why asking you to provide some proof is circle jerking or is even considered a bad thing...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 05:14 PM
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Great, then you should be able to answer my question! Please give me 1 example of a man convicted of DV because his partner "felt scared"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 03:29 PM
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What emotions are they talking about? To the extent that everyone needs to make sure it was a consensual, positive experience, then yes. To the point where the couple spends hours discussing their emotions? Of course not. Within reason, yes there needs to be some follow up, that is apart of the sexual experience. There also needs to be some pre conversation, again just to make sure everyone is on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 02:33 AM
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I am. I agree that no one is entitled to sex or emotional support. But establishing and maintaining consent is not "emotional support" and it is someone everyone is entitled to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 02:18 AM
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But what specifically does that mean? Every one has a different definition, what is yours? What does he look like, act like, what kind of job, what's his salary, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 01:53 AM
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Having consensual sex is it "entitled to emotional support". Both partners, not just women, can end sex at anytime. Both partners, not just men, need to make sure there is consent throughout the sexual acts. Both partners are entitled to safety, and enough respect that if they say "stop" the sex stops.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 01:40 AM
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What? I'm just telling you or your friend or whatever, everyone has their short comings. Men and women are judged differently based on different things. It's not fair. But at the end of the day, all you can do is put in a reasonable amount of effort into your looks and date within your SMV. Everyone goes through rough patches, but if you are a virgin or extremely unsatisfied with your sex life, the problem is you and you need to either 1. Be more realistic and lower your standards or 2. Put a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 03:04 PM
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Check my post history. I made an entire post about how hot guys can still be short and Radcliffe was literally my example haha I have never changed my story. The other posted admitted he couldn't get girls. If you aren't able to get girls, you're not looking at the right SMV. I didn't say he needed to only chase obese girls. I told him that realistically, 5'7" is significantly below average and he should lower his standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 02:41 PM
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Nope, Daniel Radcliffe got babes because he's hot af. And that's what I mean about SMV having multiple qualities. Typically, short men are considered unattractive, right? But Radcliffe has piercing blue eyes, the shaggy dark hair, other qualities that bump his SMV up. And of course he's most well known as Harry Potter, a confident and powerful man so I'm sure that doesn't hurt his SMV haha And women have it the same way too. You don't see many 200+ lbs women that are considered attractive, but w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 02:28 PM
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Yeah I have the kind of body that is written about in rap songs haha and just FYI, I do have acne and I cant sleep with the hottest guys. So yes, everyone has to stay within their SMV. Which makes sense, why would a guy sleep with me when he could get Natalie Portman? Both genders have a ton of qualities that go into SMV, but they tend to be different ones. Men are obviously more harshly judged by their height, women are more harshly judged by their physique. Just like gaining 50lbs would be a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 02:05 PM
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What are you talking about? Just answer my question, have a debate with me. Please give me 1 case where the husband was convicted of DV because his wife "felt scared". Please answer my question: do you really think DV doesn't exist? Follow up: have you ever been accused of DV? By whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 01:56 PM
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No mental problems that I was aware of. He was pretty alpha, he worked out a ton and was decently attractive. He had never so much as insulted me before that incident. The worst things I had heard about him were not malicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 01:54 PM
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There's a LOT more to SMV than 1 or 2 qualities alone. For instance, I have acne. Does that automatically make me a 2? Not quite, I also have a rockin bod, but that doesn't automatically make me a 10. It's not just about height for men, there are a million other qualities, even personality, that affect SMV. All anyone can do is maximize their positives, minimize their negatives, and be realistic about who they date. If your friend is a 6, there's no shame in dating a 6! You can still be attracte…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 01:53 PM
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Oh what were the signs? I didnt ever like him romantically and I'm a pretty smart girl. What signs should I have noticed?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 01:45 PM
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Uh no lol this is world wide, not just in the US and not just men! Everyone dates inside their SMV. There are some exceptions for the incredibly rich and famous, but generally 6s fuck 6s. She doesn't have to be obese! But if your friend is short, say he's a 5/6, he's going to have to fuck other 5/6s. I mean I'm a female and I'm a 7 and I have to fuck other male 7s. It sucks sometimes when I see incredibly attractive men I know I could never get, but I don't whine about it online. He just needs t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 01:33 PM
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Wtf. DV are things like: causing physical harm, threatening to cause physical harm, not allowing the woman access to her money, threatening people she loves such as her children, verbal abuse, etc. How are those things made up? Do you not think spouses are ever violent towards each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 01:26 PM
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That sucks though, I'm hot and I want to fuck other hot people. Why is that a bad thing? Why should anyone else get to make that decision for me? Would you like your parents to choose a partner for you who is usually much older and much less attractive for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 01:24 PM
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Hey just throwing my 0.02 here, I was sexually assaulted by a guy I had known for years. I had no idea he would ever do anything like that, he was a really nice guy. 90% of rapes are perpetrated by men the victims know. It's not like they go around with a stamp on their head, they act like perfectly nice guys until they get an opportunity...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 01:22 PM
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Why do guys bitch about having to date within their SMV?? If you're short, that's unattractive, so be prepared to date/fuck other unattractive people. That goes with anything, not just height. If you have incredibly bad acne, that's unattractive so be prepared to date/fuck unattractive people. If you aren't a 6' male model, you aren't going to date extremely attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 01:17 PM
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Okay but let's say fat people couldn't lose weight (because most of them don't), now what? Do you really think you're in a better situation? Everyone has flaws that make the other sex not interested, and some are more noticeable than others. But if you have an awesome personality and make the best of your physical features, no one will really care about height/weight/acne/whatever flaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 01:14 PM
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I think surprises are typically the most romantic. An exceptionally nice meal on a Tuesday just because is very romantic to me. Also, things that show effort and thoughtfulness. One of the most romantic things I had done for me was a scavenger hunt all across our town. None of the presents were worth any money, it was stuff like a deck of cards with 52 memories written on them, but it was incredibly sweet because they were all personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 11:38 PM
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Lol wut where are you getting this "fucked a thug in an alley" thing?? If they had two kids together it was probably a marriage or relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 04:00 PM
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Alright I googled it a couple different ways and it looks like most of the research focuses on "obese" vs "overweight", but here's the definitive numbers I found: http://imgur.com/GaeDV94 Other than that, I found a map of the US broken down by age and it looked like most of the US, between the ages of 16-25 was around 20-25% overweight, but that's both genders. So going off of that, do you think 75% of women in the US are 10s?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 03:21 PM
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Have you ever been to the US? Haha this is not true. Women are more likely to be skinny than men! But it's about 11% obesity rate for people 18-25, and it gets up to 30% by 60. So no, 90% of women are not considered 10s lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 02:57 PM
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Wow... well at least you recognize it's not supported by science!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 08:09 AM
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That sounds hot af, good for her
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 07:37 AM
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I just want you to understand that there are reasons that people will want to stop sex. It can happen at any moment. If at any time, any one involved says stop, everyone has to stop or it is rape. Consenting to one sexual act does not equal consent to all sexual acts. Consenting to doing a sexual act at one point in time, does not equal consenting to doing that act at any future time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 10:44 PM
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Okay, so youre having PiV sex and she starts to fist your asshole. Do you still feel like people should not be allowed to stop whenever they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 10:37 PM
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You don't think that a person can stop sex at any time? At what point does someone consent to getting their partner to orgasm? Is it after a kiss, or when sex starts or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 10:32 PM
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Do you not think women deserve sexual pleasure.?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 10:21 PM
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How can you say that 30 is hitting the wall? Women over 30 are incredibly hot for most men. Look at Jennifer Aniston! She's like 50 and is still plays the hot girl in her movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 10:10 PM
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Probably not since they are young and women's sexuality peaks around 30
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 10:09 PM
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Oh is that the #1 porn search word? I thought it was mom, weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 09:21 PM
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If the women are over 45, there won't be any kids!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 09:10 PM
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Lol wut. Did you read the post? They don't have to be kinky, men still want to bone 60 year olds
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 09:08 PM
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They live much longer, generally have higher quality of life, generally more attractive (well less likely to be overweight at least), usually have stronger support systems, more likely to stay in touch with family and friends, more likely to be involved in church or other groups, less likely to have depression, ... alright that's all I can think of off the top of my head
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 09:07 PM
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What are you talking about... men don't kill themselves over sex. They kill themselves because of depression and a lack of mental health services. I don't even know how to respond to this because it's so off the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 08:16 PM
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So why is it bad to like sex? I mean, I can clearly tell you why those drugs are bad haha can you tell me why sex is bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 03:53 PM
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Well you have the right to end a relationship whenever you want, for any reason. But you can't shame women into sharing their n count or medical history, that's a ridiculous amount of entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 03:53 PM
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As far as I'm concerned, the word "slut" doesn't have any negative connotation at all. Why is it bad to like sex? Who doesn't enjoy the rush of a new partner? I don't think either gender particularly cares, but as a whole, men usually get made fun of for being virgins and women for being promiscuous. I just don't think anyone should care about someone else's past sex life...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 03:25 PM
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I just don't think there is anything wrong with not telling your SO things you don't feel comfortable telling them within reason. No one should be shamed for that. If it doesn't affect your partners health or safety, they don't have a right to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 11:36 AM
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Dude, it doesn't matter if it would be helpful for you to know or not. The fact is, everyone has a right to privacy and medical information is protected by law to be extremely private. YOU DONT GET TO DECIDE WHAT SHE TELLS YOU.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 10:24 AM
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Im confused, by saying that women should have the same opportunites as men I am sexist against men? There really is a TON of favoritism towards male nurses. Even if there isn't a specific program for it, you can look up statistics to see what percentage of applicants get into a program and it will be broken down by different categories. John Hopkins nursing program is actually 46% male As far as society being against male jobs, the only time I can think that applies is with small children. Again…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 10:13 AM
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Why would you ever need to know? Seriously, in what off chance could their be that there is a medical emergency related to a past abortion? I'm not an OBGYN but I am currently doing that rotation and I can't think of any. I feel like it's a stretch and you're using it to justify feeling entitled to her private information.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 09:58 AM
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Welp, I'm pretty confident that I'm attractive by most conventional standards, I'll Pm you a pic if you want. Its not when it comes to able to have sex without judgement, tho if you think men aren't judge about having or that not having sex think again. Men can be judged too, but usually not as severely as women. But regardless, I don't believe either gender should be judged. So you want the same opportunities as men but not the reverse? So you want to be CEO, fisherwoman, etc but men can't be n…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 09:14 AM
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They have every right to know if you have a STD or not I agree 100%. And everyone should encourage their partner to get tested together before sex. No, I work in a hospital and theres really no reason why an abortion would be medically necessary to know unless it was days after. Plus, it would be in her medical record, and the doctors could tell by looking at her uterus.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 09:10 AM
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Alright your post kind of unraveled into ramblings, but the part about paternity leave... you're an idiot lol Have you ever seen a birth? Go on YouTube and watch one right now. Women don't ""want maternity leave while men could give a shit"" women literally NEED medical leave for 6 weeks after birth. 9/10 women need stitches between their legs because they ripped. All women need to wear a diaper for the first couple of weeks because there is so much blood/mucous coming out. It's not like women c…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 08:21 AM
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The pay gap isn't that simple. It mostly comes from the US being one of the only countries in the entire world to not have paid paternity leave. Since it takes about 6 weeks to recover from a healthy birth, you end up with women losing those wages. There's a lot more to it than that, but basically a tenet of feminism is to get paid paternity leave for at least 6 weeks. That would help close the gap a lot. As far as rape culture, i know there are examples where guys have had their lives ruined by…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 04:18 AM
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What are wife goggles?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 04:03 AM
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I think it's pretty reasonable to want women to have equal pay for equal work. I also think it's reasonable to want to analytically look at our society and how we respond to rape. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ so I guess you don't think I'm that reasonable, but I also can't imagine a feminist you would consider reasonable if those are your limitations. Like I said, men don't like empowered women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 03:41 AM
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The thing is, you're acting like your partner has a right to know intimate details about your life, which they don't. Obviously, if you're going to ltr a guy, you probably shouldn't lie to him. But at the same time, everyone is allowed some privacy. And for me, I genuinely have no idea how many people I've been with! It never occurred to me to keep track. So I get what you're saying about "lying" to your partner, but if I ever had a partner ask he would not get a straight answer. Mostly because …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 03:37 AM
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Agreed. This actually cracks me up because feminists are typically younger, usually white, college educated women. Young college women are also usually considered attractive. But men don't like hot women who are also empowered... so how do you fix that?? Call them fat. Because calling a woman/group of women fat or ugly is considered the worst thing a woman can be in our society, which is why we need feminism lol I love telling conservative guys I'm a feminist, they always say "really?" Because I…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 11:31 PM
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I'm a feminist and I'm pretty attractive, I'll even pm you a pic if you want. But yeah, I definitely want the ability to have sex like men, without judgement. Why is that a bad thing? Why is it a bad thing to want the same opportunities as men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 11:14 PM
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I don't know what you're talking about. Also, lotion doesn't make you more attractive. Guys can use all the lotion they want, it doesn't change anything. They need to use concealer, acne treatments, hair products, etc.
/r/MGTOW06/10/16 02:18 PM
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When did I say they use too much? Nope I don't care about my post history; I have several accounts.
/r/MGTOW06/10/16 02:11 PM
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Yeah but you're getting much less sex from an escort. Like I said, I generally get sex a couple times a week with an SO. Hiring an escort a couple times a week would be out of my budget. I just think escorts are gross and I wouldn't want to give her money just for fucking me. Why give her that power? Why give away my hard earned money for sex? Why reinforce the idea that women can get money just for having a pussy?
/r/MGTOW06/10/16 02:10 PM
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Most guys can't even craft a table, their hands are too lotioned up and not calloused.
/r/MGTOW06/10/16 02:02 PM
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Well, I am against escorts so I didn't think about that. in my experience, I can get sex from an SO usually 1-3 times a week. If I'm single and trying to pick up from Tinder or bars, I get sex pretty much never. The study I saw was talking about married men and it said over 50% of married men get sex more than once a week, but only 1% of single men got sex more than once a week.
/r/MGTOW06/10/16 01:57 PM
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Uh that he's my dream guy? Not because I slut shame, I'm just into weird power dynamic type shit and I love virgins. If I give a half decent blow job they think I'm a sex god, I love it. Actually the guy I've been with for the last couple years was very inexperienced when we met and he didn't have anything "wrong" with him, he just hadn't met the right girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 01:25 PM
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I agree. But the easier and most consistent way of getting sex is through a ltr so I guess they figured that out
/r/MGTOW06/10/16 08:22 AM
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Interesting. I've also seen studies that say intelligent men are more likely to be in relationships. So maybe the most intellectual men are more likely to be in relationships with prostitutes?
/r/MGTOW06/10/16 05:25 AM
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I think women in the US tend to not go into computers is because it's not marketed towards women. When I was a teen, boys were playing WOW, LOL, runescape, etc. but there was nothing like that geared towards girls. That creates a "boys club" vibe. Then, when girls do try to play games like runescape despite the fact that it is marketed towards boys, they get the other players harassing them about being female. So they stop playing, lose interest in all things computers, and the cycle perpetuates…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 05:03 PM
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I thought you didn't want kids? I'm 22 lol we will see how I feel in 10 years. But the average housewife has 2.5 kids, so lets stick to the general woman, not me specifically There's nothing you want to do outside of medical work? I like to travel, particularly to South America. Unfortunately, most housewives could not convince their husbands to give them the thousands of dollars to take a trip to SA and leave their kids at a nanny for a week or two/in the sole care of the husband. There isn't r…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 04:36 PM
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Why should it be boring? You have nothing you want to do? A house wife is limited by money (she can only spend what her husband allows) and her duties as a housewife. Kids take up a ton of time and energy, particularly when they are under 5. So the average american woman has 2-3 kids, lets say 2 years apart. Thats 15 years of childcare for children under 5. No fucking thanks. Theres nothing else you'd rather do with your life? If you didn't have to worry about money at all, what would you do? If…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 04:18 PM
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Because thats boring? And my husband being the sole provider will never be more money than if we both worked? Because I don't want to take care of children and clean the house my entire life? Honestly, I LOVE what I do. I love working 12-16 hour shifts, making a difference in peoples lives, dealing with sick people all day long. I couldn't imagine doing anything else. Why the hell would I trade that in to make less money and have less independence? Edit: oh and about 40% of women earn more than …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 04:03 PM
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No. I think if you took an average woman and average man they are similarly attractive. However, young women tend to spend much more time and money on their day to day appearance than young men. So then the question becomes, "do you think people who spend 5x more time and money on their appearance are generally considered more attractive?" As women get older and get married and have children, we tend to develop different priorities and I think the gap closes a lot. But from a certain age, roughl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 03:00 PM
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I love how you bring that up once a week, even though it was abundantly clear that was a satirical comment to anyone with half a brain -_- It was months ago, I said I was kidding, get the fuck over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 02:41 PM
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I didn't say women are wonderful. But if one group of people is successful with dating and one group is not, the obvious answer is one group is more attractive than the other. This has nothing to do with gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 02:22 PM
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But women are just as likely to cheat as men. Women have side pieces and multiple boyfriends too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 12:41 PM
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I think men who date multiple women and women who date multiple men would cancel each other out though. Men and women are very similarly likely to cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 12:40 PM
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How do you accidentally think you're dating someone... plus, if a guy is treating his plate like a girlfriend, he probably wants her to be his girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 12:37 PM
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Logic is hard
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 12:34 PM
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I'm just going to state obvious... are the girls decently attractive while your guy friends are less than average? Because that might be why..
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 12:34 PM
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But again, men are more often to encourage mom to keep the baby when she doesn't want it. Men are actually less likely to be pro choice at all. For what it's worth, I think we should make abortion and contraception much more accessible to both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 03:31 AM
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Men have control over pregnancy too. They have contraception methods like condoms, vasectomy, and spermicide that are very effective. Secondly, you're acting like women have access to these things. It is much harder for a woman to get hormonal contraception than it is for a man to get contraception. There are also serious health risks to consider, like high blood pressure or blood clots. And fourthly, its expensive. A woman has to pay for the doctors appointments, follow up visits, procedure/pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 03:09 AM
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And yet you attempt to tell women what they think feel and say...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 12:02 AM
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Women have babies for tons of reasons. Lack of access to birth control/abortions, lack of education, etc etc. and I am definitely not saying a woman has never trapped a man with a pregnancy. I am saying that historically and statistically, men are more likely to use a pregnancy to trap a woman. Men are more likely to lie about contraception use, more likely to want to continue an unwanted pregnancy, and less likely to use future contraception. Also, how does pregnancy trap men? It traps women...…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 11:46 PM
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Lol every woman is disputing what you said! Please give me any evidence to support women talking about trapping men with a baby! That's such a dumb stereotype, considering men are much more likely to lie about contraception use. Why the fuck would a woman want to get pregnant with a guy she wasn't married to? "Oh you won't commit to me now while I'm hot and have no responsibilities? Well let me gain 50lbs, get stretch marks, go through an incredibly painful birth, and attach a HUGE responsibilit…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 11:15 PM
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I'm just trying to help, it makes you sound ignorant when you say things that you obviously can't know, like the private thoughts and conversations of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 03:26 PM
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lol I have never talked about any of these topics with my friends. Don't state your opinion as a fact when it's not, say "I think women talk about" instead of "women talk about". Because unless you're a woman, you obviously don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 10:26 AM
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I didn't "arbitrarily decide" what short is. The average did. Anything below average is short, anything above is tall. And average isn't 6', it's 5'9". Knowing the average height doesn't make me shallow...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 09:10 PM
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Yeah I'll answer any questions! So first of all, we only have partners together. If I am sending a guy nudes or something, my partner is fully aware of every picture. He posts my nudes on a couple different subs under a username I have the password to. Basically, he gets off on bragging about me and seeing me be a slut. I get off on being used for his pleasure. It started with one of his best friend/roommate getting out of a 5 year relationship and he was still a virgin. At 20 and newly single, …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 08:58 PM
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Eh not quite. Chad is whatever TRP needs to rationalize away. Sometimes it's a black guy with a big cock, sometimes it's a rich frat boy, sometimes it's an old rich playboy. Whatever the individual red pill guy feels inadequate about, Chad is the opposite and thats why TRP guy isn't getting girls....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 06:35 PM
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But fucking the bad boy and settling down with the stable guy isn't cheating. It's the best thing that works out for everyone. The girl has fun and knows she's not missing out on Chad, Chad gets short term fun, and Stable guy gets the hot girl for the rest of his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 06:32 PM
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By your study, men are more likely to cheat and much more said "they would cheat if they could get away with it" than women....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 06:31 PM
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Feminists dont shame men about wanting lots of sex! We hate slut shaming, we want to live in a sex positive society!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 06:29 PM
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Not OP but I also have relationships with "open" aspects, as in hot wife type stuff. I don't worry about being able to fall in love and settle down because I'm already in love. I probably should worry about STDs more than I do, but I guess I rationalize it by thinking that penicillin can cure almost anything. We also only include people we know, so that helps decrease the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 06:25 PM
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How the hell is love a "male" concept? Do men fall in love more often than women? Do women cheat more often than men? Please back up this absurd statement with some sort of resource.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 06:17 PM
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I think women tell men that their success/money/status makes them more attractive so that they don't look like gold diggers. It sounds nicer to say "I like the way you make me feel when you shower me with gifts" than to say "I'm only with you because of the money you spend on me". It also gives ugly/old men hope that they can still be attractive to hot women. This makes them easier targets for gold diggers. I'm a woman and I don't give a shit about your feelings so you can trust me when I say th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 06:00 PM
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I think women tell men that their success/money/status makes them more attractive so that they don't look like gold diggers. It sounds nicer to say "I like the way you make me feel when you shower me with gifts" than to say "I'm only with you because of the money you spend on me". It also gives ugly/old men hope that they can still be attractive to hot women. This makes them easier targets for gold diggers. I'm a woman and I don't give a shit about your feelings so you can trust me when I say th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 05:55 PM
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How can money make you find someone more attractive? It doesn't make sex feel any better. That doesn't even make sense, do you find millionaire women more attractive than poor women? Of course not, but if you got to hang out in their luxury houses, drive their luxury cars, and eat their 5 star food you might be more willing to fuck them, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 03:18 PM
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But you don't have a "fit" body, you're short. A chubby girl can still have a model face. I'm really not trying to put you down. Let's just look at the facts. You're in the bottom 30% of height. Height is a characteristic that is commonly a big deal for women. You have said you are not able to attract any women because of their high standards. Because of your height, you may have to be more realistic about who you pursue. The good news: not everyone cares about height. Just like not everyone car…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 02:57 PM
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But those women don't find those men attractive... we are talking about what is attractive. Those women are getting paid. They are using your friends for their money. If those men tried to wife up those girls, they would get a dead bedroom. If those men ran out of money, those girls would be gone. Those women do find your friends sexy, they are getting paid to pretend.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 02:48 PM
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Uh, all I said was that if youre significantly shorter than average, youre going to end up with a girl similar to your SMV. I would never advocate killing yourself and I have no doubt that you will end up with someone who makes you very happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 12:40 PM
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You are basically just proving to us that women are hypergamous and that they always need a better-looking man than them to feel attracted Women just want someone equally as attractive as them. Height matters, sorry. You can't say that women are shallow for wanting a tall guy when you have your preferences too. I'm sorry, I feel bad for you because obviously you can't change your height, but I'm not going to lie and say it doesnt matter. Shorter guys will end up with less attractive women (doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 12:38 PM
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I think she's the best role model women could have. She's still skinny at 50, she tries to keep America from being so fat, and she has a degree from Harvard Law so she's not lazy. He's a lucky one.
/r/MGTOW03/10/16 12:16 PM
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So what makes a woman sexually attracted to a man is his height? His face and his body mean nothing if he's 2 inches shorter than average? So what makes a man sexually attracted to anorexic women? Her face and height mean nothing if she has an extra 30lbs? Look dude, I don't know what to tell you. You can't complain about women having high standards when you won't date in your SMV. According to the chart I posted, youre literally in the bottom 30%. So even with your model face, you'll be lucky t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 12:10 PM
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Eh, what difference does it make if guys find it anyway? This is the cycle I see: step 1: Guys get angry with being rejected by women, so they go on r/trp. step 2:They bitch and moan for awhile and put forth these crazy ideas like "only marry a 14 year old virgin!!1!" step 3: Eventually, they check back into reality or abandon their online alter egos, but retain the sane advice like "work out" and "don't put women on a pedestal". not everyone makes it to this step, some stay at step 2 forever st…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 12:05 PM
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If a woman sees me as being below average or just a five because she can't wear 6 inches heels next to me then I'm gonna go and say a big, fat no You ARE below average. You are significantly below average. all I want is a girl who doesn't have an heart attack by doing physical exercise and someone who ressembles a woman and not a fat blob? Uhhh I'm not talking about a morbidly obese woman. I'm talking about someone whose 20-50lbs overweight. Nothing morbid, but something noticeable. If I expect …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 11:59 AM
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What are you talking about? YOU are the one with high standards that need women to be perfect... If you have a huge and obvious physical negative, like your height, your SMV woman will have a huge physical negative. She can still have a model face, just like you, but you can't expect a 10 girl to date a 5 guy. You need to be realistic or stop complaining. You don't have to be perfect, but then neither do women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 11:32 AM
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Oh yeah for sure, I mean most guys would still jump at the chance to have sex with me, I'm a 22 year old white girl lol. But I'm into scrawny nerd guys :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 11:29 AM
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Alright first, let's define attractive. Attractive is what makes a woman want to fuck you. A woman does not want to have sex with you the money you have. She will suck it up to get money, but once she has it she won't keep putting out. Having more money doesn't make women want to have sex with you more, and if you use it to get a girlfriend it will quickly turn into a dead bedroom situation. Personality plays a big role as long as she is already attracted to him physically. My source is look at …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 11:27 AM
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You have to have both! Good social skills and physical attractiveness!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 04:01 AM
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Everyone prefers someone who makes more money. But women who don't need money, ie women who are successful on their own, don't date men who are uglier than them. For example: the girls Hugh Hefner dates need the money. They are not famous on their own, so they date ugly men with money. Jennifer Anniston is rich as hell on her own. She dates attractive men who are younger/worth less than her. It's not rocket science. Women aren't "attracted" to money. They will suck it up and fuck a guy for money…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 03:59 AM
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Yeah and that stuff is all great and not specifically red pill. Any dating advice since the beginning of time is stuff like "hit the gym". The part that makes it the red pill is the misogyny. Things like "AWALT", slut shaming, negging, etc. actually hinder someone's chances at finding a quality partner. I mean think about it, do you want a woman that has low self esteem and is can be manipulated?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 01:30 AM
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Okay that's fine, you're obviously allowed to have preferences. Just be aware that that is your SMV and don't call women "shallow" for finding your height unattractive when you find their weight unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 01:20 AM
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Lol oh so your standards are too high. Let's be honest, you're short. That's generally not considered conventionally attractive. Chances are you might end up with someone who has a similar over characteristic that is a negative. Such as an overweight girl. So you say you have a model face. Your SMV girls are probably going to be overweight (or no curves, or some other over-traditionally-attractive characteristic) but with attractive faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 12:19 AM
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That's really not true. There have been a handful of "describe your perfect guy" posts on this very sub and not one single girl said their ideal mate had to be tall. The average height of a US woman is 5'4", so you're still 3 inches taller, your height shouldn't be too big of a deal breaker. A lot of guys like to blame their height as a cop out. They can say "oh I can't help it, women are just shallow" when in reality women don't care about their height but can't stand their personality. How do …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 12:06 AM
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Yeah it could be height, face, personality, etc. you need a lot more than just "skinny" to be attractive. It's kind of sad that that's the standard men set nowadays. What is an alpha male to you? I've heard sooo many different qualifications for alpha males.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 11:59 PM
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If you think it's bad as a man, imagine being a woman. Men are more likely to be overweight than women, so women have even less options for slim attractive mates :/ the obesity epidemic sucks in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 11:54 PM
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I'm just saying, what u/wynterpetals was saying is true. It inflates guy's egos as much as it inflates girls, because guys get this illusion of selection. Also, only the most attractive women are posting their selfies on Instagram everyday. So it gives the illusion that 9s are "average" because every girl posting on Instagram is posting 9 selfies (with make up, filters, etc). So if every girl is a 9, why go after a 6 even if they are 5s and 6s?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 11:19 PM
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I don't have to worry about red pill men. My vocal feminism keeps them away from me :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 10:24 PM
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Who the hell can go to sleep without masturbating or alcohol??
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 10:11 PM
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But also... porn is porn for women haha. That's like saying sports is porn for guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 10:10 PM
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I think a TON of guys go through their fb and message girls ridiculously out of their league that they don't even know. Why would they do that if they didn't think they had a chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 10:10 PM
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Read the whole comment. Were we talking about all men or just red pillers? Just red pillers. Not all men are red pillers. So I was not talking about all men, just red pillers. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding, I should have been more clear. I do not think all men are pathetic, just those that practice sexism/racism or anything where they project their faults onto everyone else but themselves. And its not just men, women who do that are terrible too. Anyone who thinks the problem is with litera…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 09:10 PM
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Do you genuinely think women's only point in life is to take care of men? That's pathetic, men are not dogs or children, why do we need caretakers? How are you MGTOW if you believe that?
/r/MGTOW02/10/16 08:11 PM
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I just gave you an example of Obama... and obviously trump is a psycho who gets away with all sorts of outright lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 08:10 PM
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But we were only talking about red pill men... Why do you think all men are red pill? That's just not true. Not even a significant amount are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 08:09 PM
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How else can you prove they didn't consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 07:34 PM
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TRP is not all men -_- just because TRP men are weak doesn't mean all men are weak. Most men are not red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 06:52 PM
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Can you quote me referring to men at all in the comment above? I was only talking about trp. Anyone who projects their problems onto an entire group of people (racists/sexist people) are weak and pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 06:17 PM
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I know a lot of men who are short who have a ton of great qualities. Personally, I think short men can have a ton great qualities, like being great doctors and teachers. But I guess if you don't think doctors and teachers have a place in society, I can understand why you don't think short men have a place in society... it's just kind of a depressing view to have about yourself. I hope you can find a community that shares your ideals where you are happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 05:52 PM
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Women don't lose any of their money/possessions/house when they divorce? Hmmm where I live they do. Men and women both have to commit resources to each other. In fact, in 40% of marriages women actually outearn their husbands. So they are committing more financially to their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 05:45 PM
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I'm so confused. You're significantly below average in height, admit to not being able to get casual sex, and then say that men like you should be killed off via getting rid of technology... So you don't want men like you to exist anymore? Do you understand my confusion? It sounds like you have low self esteem or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 05:43 PM
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Because their pets need to be taken care of. They are small and weak and need someone to take them out to shit. Don't you see how it's demeaning comparing men to those tiny dogs with so many needs from women? If you think men need women you aren't MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW02/10/16 05:41 PM
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This is demeaning to men though. It's basically saying men need women to take care of them like they do little dogs. Men can take care of themselves, they don't need women for anything, hence MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW02/10/16 05:33 PM
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So you think we should forget technology, modern medicine, etc and revert back to the dark ages? So that only "real alphas" survive? I think there are places in the world that do that, like maybe the Amish. I think they still go to the doctor though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 05:29 PM
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I don't even understand what you mean. Do women keep separate accounts from their husbands? Do women not lose half their shit when they get divorced?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 05:22 PM
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Yep and you can go back to raping with impunity because it's only rape if she physically fights back. Yay.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 05:17 PM
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Lol wut. Women are worthless because they are short and weak? Why does that make them worthless? A doctor or teacher doesn't need to be strong and tall to be a good doctor or teacher. Do you think all short weak men are worthless too? I don't think all women are afraid of men or expect preferential treatment. They just want equality. If a man can have 5 kids with 3 different women and still be considered successful, why can't women? Women have to be skinny, attractive, married (because otherwise…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 05:09 PM
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If a guy has the body of a Greek god, he doesn't need trp. Being attractive/putting effort into your looks is the fastest way to get laid. But the things trp advocates, like negging and slut shaming, will actually hinder him getting a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 05:03 PM
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That's not true at all. Do you know any successful woman (ie doesn't need money) who is dating a man less attractive than herself? Name 1 successful woman dating a less attractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 04:35 PM
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You don't get to decide arbitrarily what is short and what is tall. The average is 5'9", so above is tall and below is short. That is basic math. Secondly, how does that make women shallow? If the bottom 20% of men are getting 30% of women that's not shallow at all
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 04:33 PM
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But 5'8 is short... and at least 30% of short people have girlfriends... so... why are you complaining about your height?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 03:12 PM
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Yeah so men aren't weak. Anyone who puts down entire groups of people because they don't want to face their own short comings is weak. I can't imagine anyone would disagree with that statement. The kkk is weak, trp is weak, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 03:11 PM
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But some groups are privileged and oppressed. Do you see a problem in pointing that out? There's kind of a huge difference in pointing out social injustices and hating all men....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 03:10 PM
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Oh no that is not true at all. You can be the most interesting man in the world, but if you aren't hot we aren't going to get tougher. We can be friends... but I can't fuck your interesting personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 03:08 PM
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5'8 is short... 5'10 is tall. Not average. 5'9 is average. Please google that so you can see for yourself. Plenty of 5'8" and 5'7" guys have girlfriends, like at least 30%.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 02:37 PM
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No it shows how weak trp is. If you act like women are worthless instead of improving, you're a weak, shitty person. Please do not twist my words around. Have an honest debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 02:36 PM
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I didn't see a single negative thing about men in that entire comment... -_- just because it doesn't praise men, doesn't mean it's attacking them...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 02:35 PM
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Oh I disagree. I think everything trp says works for men works for women. Work out, work on confidence, don't put the other gender on a pedestal, focus on hobbies/work. All those things work for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 02:29 PM
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5'9" is average. You can google that. Not 5'8, not 5'10". So anything less than 5'9 is short and anything over is tall. Because 50% of people will be above or below 5'9"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 02:27 PM
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But men are still responsible for their feelings. If I felt powerless against affirmative action that doesn't give me the right to join the KKK. Well I mean I have the "right" but I'm still a shitty person if I do. Feeling powerless in your dating pool and then allowing that to fester into hatred for all 3.5 billion women is just a little ridiculous. They can become more powerful by becoming more attractive, not by treating all women as less or as sex objects, that just shows how weak men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 02:26 PM
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I have already addressed this. Anyone under 5'9" is "short" because that is the average height of an American male. So anyone under 5'9" is below 50% of people's height. 5'7" is going to be closer to the bottom 20%. Of the people below 5'9", at least half of them have to have girlfriends based on statistics. If ~80% of men have sex/gfs, and only 50% of men are "tall" that means at least 30% of short guys have girlfriends. And that's if every tall guy has a girlfriends before any short guy. So it…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 02:12 PM
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But couldn't you say the same thing about men? There are 3.5 billion men out there. For every man you know there is man out there better in every single way. Men are replaceable sex objects. Still makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 01:58 PM
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Do you really think SRS/TBP talks about Men in a degrading way? I sub to both and I haven't seen that. They both make fun of dumb things people say, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 01:56 PM
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Lol then they shouldn't be posting it all over the Internet
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 01:55 PM
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Oh I disagree. I would say close to half have girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 01:50 PM
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Men can get away with more just for being men. Women have to prove themselves over and over. Anyone with a career in politics is going to have a few skeletons, but hilarys is the only one we seem to care about. Male candidates have gotten away with much more, with less scrutiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 01:49 PM
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But most short men do have girlfriends... So obviously there is not bias against guys just for being short. Just like many women with flat chests are still attractive and there is no inherent bias against flat chested women just for being flat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 11:54 PM
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Haha oh my god so gross. I bet he never stops doing his chores again though.... ha
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 11:30 PM
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I'm just saying that short men, especially men just below average, have the same experiences as women with small breasts. The "ugly" of both genders have an equally hard time finding an SO/partner. Men don't have it worse just because women judge them on height. Women are judged on things like cup size and waist size as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 11:29 PM
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No divorce, just built up resentment. And it's not just if someone is infertile, what if they only have girls?? They just decide to stay in an unhappy marriage anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 11:15 PM
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Wow, I'm a WOMAN lol how can you say I'm lying? How can you say you know what women go through more than women? Have you ever had your breast ridiculed? No because you're a MAN. I guess it's just easier to dismiss women's experiences and assume they are all lying rather than to face the fact that ugly women have a hard time too lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 11:14 PM
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This is not true at all. In fact, men aren't even supposed to be extremely sexual with their wife. It is more socially acceptable to cheat with prostitutes than it is to ask your wife for a blow job.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 11:11 PM
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Oh I literally meant midgets. Like a 3'9" guy obviously is going to have a much harder time getting a girl than a flat chested girl. The thing is, every single girl has been made fun of for her breast size. Whether it was before she filled out, or even if they were too big, every single girl has had negative comments about her breasts. So to say that the bottom 20% are ridiculed is a straight up lie because 100% of women have been attacked for their cup size. The bottom 20% of women have an equa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 11:01 PM
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How am I mocking or discriminating against short guys? Look it sucks, I'm not denying that. But the bottom 20% of women can't get laid either and a lot of those reasons are factors outside of their control. Women get rejected, ridiculed, and humiliated for having small breasts. So much so, that breast augmentation is the second most common plastic surgery in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 10:46 PM
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So basically if a guy is in the bottom 20% of height they can't get laid? I agree. I even said in my post that the rule only goes down to a certain height, which is around 5'6"/5'7". A midget has a much harder time getting laid than an A cup lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 10:37 PM
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But most short men can get girlfriends/get laid. If 50% of the population is under 5'10" and 80% of the population is getting laid regularly, a huge chunk of those short guys must be getting laid regularly! Therefore, if you're short and not getting laid, it isn't your heights fault. Or at least not entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 10:26 PM
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Short is under 5'9" because that is average, so short is anyone below at least 51% of the population. I have dated a guy who was 5'6" and someone else who was 5'8". They do get laid and they do get girlfriends. If you're not getting laid/dates, it is not your height that is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 10:12 PM
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I agree. We have an obesity epidemic in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 09:28 PM
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Okay. I have observed male candidates getting away with much worse. For instance, Obama made a unilateral decision to kill an American citizen on American soil with a drone. Congress was not notified until after. And that was barely a story for a couple of days.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 08:52 PM
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Uh no. As someone with quite a bit of experience in the medical field, there's a ton of red tape to keep this from happening. First of all, you have to justify everything you prescribe, even over the counter meds. Secondly, you personally have to assess the symptoms, the doctor can't take the mothers word for it. And thirdly, there are time limits on everything. Depending on the drug, the kid might need to be reassessed every month. And again, it's hella expensive for mom. Why would she do this?…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 08:26 PM
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Texas, Murika. We were literally told in our sex ed class in... 8? Grade, that women who had sex were like chewed gum. How fucked is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 07:07 PM
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Come on dude, you can't really believe this guy. You think doctors would prescribe unnecessary drugs to children? You think cops would ignore evidence and threaten to frame someone just for...? What? Both those professionals would lose their jobs for doing that shit. Just be honest with yourself. At least those two parts of the story are false. Maybe his ex is crazy and stole his identity, but you know she didn't drug her kid and you know police didn't call him a rapist and threaten to frame him…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 07:04 PM
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Ask a guy to defend his behavior sometime. Put him on the spot. Next time a guy talks about a girls tits or ass ask him why he's saying those things. I guarantee it will be something like "I can't help it, I'm a man!" Because we teach men that they can do whatever with their sexuality. They can like young girls, they can sexually assault women, etc. And women are told they can't even masturbate because it ruins them for marriage and if they have sex it's wrong and they are dirty...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 07:01 PM
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Men are more likely to be overweight than women so you can't really say the average woman is "obese" without saying the average man is even worse than that...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 06:51 PM
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Yeah, it's more likely that his ex wife, the police, doctors, nurses, the entire legal system, etc is all against him!!!! It's not possibly his fault at all, there's no bias in his story telling, the world is just against him. Uh huh. Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 06:50 PM
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Damn I wish. The only time I hear it is when men are excusing their terrible behavior. You grabbed a woman's butt without her consent? Oh it's not sexual assault, it's just boys being boys! You've never heard that shit? Guys defend their perviness by blaming on their penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 06:47 PM
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You posted that men and women are equally likely to be obese. Obese and overweight mean different things. Clooney has been married for years now. No he didn't get any flak for it while he was single at 45. Yes Rihanna gets flak for being single at 35. Women are more likely to have anorexia than men are to have body dismorphia. Women also spend much more time getting ready and muuuuuchh more money on makeup/clothes/hair products. Women's standard of beauty is so high women spend 6x more time on j…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 02:14 PM
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You're right, those numbers were higher than I thought but women's eating disorders are still much more common. I did give you a female celebrity doing the same thing... Obesity is not the same as being overweight. Men are much more likely to be overweight than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 01:34 PM
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Interesting. Well Barbie is a lot more popular than whatever that hulk doll is. Anorexia is the #1 killer of addictions/disorders. On the other hand, something like 75% of men are overweight. So I guess what I'm saying is society doesn't back up your claim that men and women are under the same beauty standards. With kids/family, same thing. Clooney said he was never going to get married and the media celebrated him. Rihanna is half of Clooney age and is constantly hounded about who she's dating,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 01:09 PM
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When has trumps kids/baby mommas been brought up? It wasn't brought up at the last debate, but Bills affair from the 90s was! Oh and btw whose fault was the affair? The media says Hilary's... how fucked is that. You really think men and women feel the same pressure to have kids? You genuinely think men face the same beauty/weight standards as women? I have seen women who are chubby get berated for not being feminine enough. I have seen men who have huge bellys get told they "look like a lumber j…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 12:47 PM
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I'm a feminist and I just think this guy is full of shit. He had evidence that his ex stole his identity and went to the cops with it, and the cops told him he was probably a rapist and they would help ex wife frame him for stuff? Come on... that's not true... His ex wife made up medical conditions about his son that doctors believed (im sure they didn't run any tests, just took her word for it that he has cancer) because she wanted sympathy? And huge bills for medication and doctors visits? And…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 12:44 PM
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A guy never marries and has no kids, and people say "oh he's a lifelong bachelor, he never met the right lady". A woman never marries and has no kids and people say "wow she's a crazy cat lady, I wonder what's wrong with her why didn't she want kids" A boy acts up in class and the teacher says "boys will be boys! They have so much energy what are you going to do?" A girl acts up in class and the teacher says "sally you're supposed to be an example, please act like a lady and sit down, be quiet, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 12:19 PM
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There's no such thing as average "for you". Op is asking about an average, everyday lady
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 12:06 PM
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How are women coddled before adulthood? I would argue men are much more coddled than women...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 06:24 AM
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But a college girl isn't average. That age isn't average.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 06:21 AM
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Really? I feel like male candidates can get away with much worse and stay in power.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 06:16 AM
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Well she won the debate by most accounts so I would say she can "hold her own" against trump
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 06:15 AM
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Why would slit shaming ever be a good thing? Especially from a politician with 5 kids from 3 different women. He's a huge hypocrite for slut shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 11:16 PM
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That's true. John Oliver explained it as the "bed of nails" principle. If you step on 1 nail, it hurts like crazy. If you step on a bed of nails, it distributes the weight and you don't feel it hardly at all. Trump says so many ridiculous things he is expected to say crazy stuff, so the bar is low. On the other hand, some republicans have had ridiculous scandals and are still prominent figures. I'm not super polically savvy, but didn't Newt Gingrich have an affair while his wife was dying of can…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 08:52 PM
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Why not?? That's pretty fucked up to hold hundreds of thousands of people back strictly based on their genitalia.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 08:35 PM
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That article was so weird. It acted like trump won the debate even though it said "most major news sources report hilary winning the debate" lol. And then it says trump interrupted Hilary 41 times, Hilary interrupted trump 7 times, and Hilary is somehow the disrespectful one...? Okay... Idk, weird article. Highly biased to the point where it might be satirical
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 08:34 PM
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He interrupted her and raised his voice to speak over her. I guess it depends if you call that "yelling" or whatever. I think experience is very relevant to gender. Women have to prove themselves, especially in a leaderships position, before they are accepted as competent. Trump has filed for bankruptcy a handful of times, has never held office, and is somehow still considered for presidency and I think it is largely because he is male. It is assumed he will be a decent leader because of his gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 08:23 PM
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But you aren't say "value women because they are good nurses and teachers and mothers" you're telling them to strictly value women for sex by seeing prostitutes. You could say, next time you're sick recognize the fantastic nurse/doctor taking care of you and value women because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 05:05 PM
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No. Making the sole connection that women are good because they are prostitutes is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 04:54 PM
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I feel like everyone thinks they are changing the other sides opinion but everyone just stands even more firmly in their beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 04:44 PM
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The very first sentence of her post says "hot isn't enough info for me ... I need to know about his personality as well" You want to fuck some women more than others though, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 11:05 AM
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I agree, I love pot. But I didn't start smoking until college... and there are numerous studies showing that marijuana use before 15/16 is terrible for mental development
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 01:33 AM
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Not "sex & drugs" she just occasionally did pot when she was a teenager. 12 isn't a teenager and pot is a drug... Asa's the type that could hang out with "the guys" & play video games/smoke pot/have a beer with in CA without their being anything weird about it. Oh I think it would be the opposite. She would be like Amy Shumer and not be able to stop making sex jokes and try way too hard to fit in. She's steering the entire course of her career to legitimize her opinions on subjects she didn't ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 01:00 AM
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She started doing drugs and having sex when she was 12? Yeah that's the kind of stuff I'm talking about... Emma has a ton of status and achievements, she's as classy as you can get. Asa seems like the type of woman who can only talk about sex and drugs. Emma seems like the type of woman who can challenge you and hold a conversation about anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 12:47 AM
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Oh I think Emma Watson would be more down to earth. I'm not going to assume anything about asa, but a lot of porn stars have past sexual trauma, drug addictions, etc. and just generally a lot of baggage. Plus, Emma is a goddess.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 12:26 AM
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Yeah you can't really pull a quality American woman for a 40k salary and an average 30 year old attractiveness. I mean for one thing, a quality woman is going to be ambitious, if he's 30 and making 40k he's probably not ambitious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 12:25 AM
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Oh I thought we were talking about women in their prime. Yeah you can definitely pull a lower quality woman with a 40k salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 12:14 AM
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lol she's married to you, she doesn't have to fuck you. One romp like that and you'll be on r/deadbedrooms for the rest of your marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 12:10 AM
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She can have her pick of men, she's gorgeous and filthy rich. Why the hell would she spend any time with a man if he wasn't a feminist? "Oh you don't think women are as good as men? Chad #34 it's your turn to be arm candy! Bye Chad #33!" It would be that simply when you're that hot/famous/rich lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 12:07 AM
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I live in one of the cheapest places to live, a small town in Texas, and our starting salary for nurses is around 70k. I can't imagine a woman would be impressed with a guy 5-10 years older than her making 10k less than her. And remember, 40% of women outearn their husbands, and women are much more likely to have a higher education. Women without kids are outearning men without kids. So... I just don't think average or below average is going to impress anyone, but especially not a woman who is p…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 12:03 AM
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I mean.. do they want those things? Yes. But women don't find those things sexually attractive. If a man marries a woman and the woman only likes his status/money, it's going to be a dead bedroom situation quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 11:38 PM
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Oh okay, I live in the US in a very cheap area and 60-70k is only average. If you're 30 you should probably be making around that if not better. But yeah, I get what you're saying, if you're a third world country that is a ton of money and you can get women in their prime.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 11:36 PM
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Yeah, makeup makes a woman more attractive, lifting makes a man more attractive. Money might make you more able to get a girlfriend, but she won't want to fuck you any more than if you had no money. She's not trying to fuck you, she's trying to get your money and dead bedroom you. So as far as being "attractive" goes, that doesn't have anything to do with money or status.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 09:24 PM
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Not possible, they signed a marriage license right? Learn to spell/punctuate properly.
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 09:09 PM
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But none of those things make him physically more attractive. I can't fuck your height or your money. Only working out makes you physically more attractive...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 08:59 PM
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What is a 10 man? A guy who looks phenomenal without working out?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 08:49 PM
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But not all men are attracted to the same thing. Some men like tall, bone thin, blonde women and some men like curvy Latina women. It's completely a preference. Genetic means it would be passed down through genes, and that's obviously not true lol you don't have the same fetishes as your parents or grandparents do you?? Now, why can't that same logic be applied to women again? Also, Google "biodiversity" if you think ""all genes are the same"". If they were all the same we would be long dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 08:48 PM
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Eh, if they aren't fat or over 40, they have like a 50/50 shot of being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 08:44 PM
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So according to that comment, a man typically has to have a good personality to be a 10. Do you think this is accurate for men as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 08:43 PM
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Come on, you can't say trp isn't a cult with a straight face. Even they admit they are a cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 08:25 PM
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A woman is in her prime when she's most sexually attractive to men. For women, status helps with this. With men, notnso much. Women out earn men in 40% of their relationships. They are much more concerned with having orgasms and attention from hot men than they are with status. I can't fuck your status, sorry not sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 07:42 PM
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If prime also includes status, a woman in her prime is what? 25-40? So then you're not going to be fucking a hot 20 year old unless you're a millionaire or also 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 07:35 PM
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So then they would still pick a younger guy... or you wouldn't have a woman in her prime.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 07:05 PM
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But a woman can also earn status and accomplishments.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 06:52 PM
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I mean that's fine you can factor that in, but unless you're a multi millionaire it won't make a difference. And a woman in her prime is also going to factor in the money and that would cancel out yours so...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 06:30 PM
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Why would successful guys peak later? Peak isn't how much money you make, it is how physically attractive you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 06:13 PM
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Oh okay so virginity/sluttiness doesn't reflect on any characteristics. I personally agree that virginity is attractive, but that's subjective. I disagree with trp idea that being a slut or virgin makes you a good or bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 05:31 PM
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Or pair up! That's free and they wouldn't have to worry about sluts. A lot of incels have weird hang ups about virginity, so I don't think they can visit an escort without hating themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 12:26 PM
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Oh I thought the whole point of this post was that therapy can help people? I wouldn't call that useless... If that's the case, why doesn't he just go to an escort? Or experiment with his other incel friends? I never understood why incels didn't just pair up...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 12:22 PM
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I am so worried about this :/ I've never had a partner with any erection problems and I feel like it would cause a lot of problems
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 12:20 PM
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14/15?? God I was so ugly back then haha I would definitely not call it my prime. Hell, I didn't start getting proportional and control my acne until I was 17/18. Just letting you know, any "teen" you see being played in movies and tv (or porn), is actually several years older than that. I remember the High School musical cast was all 20s and even some 30s when they were playing "high schoolers".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 12:16 PM
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Hey I would say you're in your prime now! But then again I'm 22 so to me a guy in his prime starts at early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 12:12 PM
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Are male therapists not as qualified? Or not as good at their jobs? I'm assuming they would go because he was a good therapist...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 12:00 PM
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No it's not, maybe a couple cases are antibiotics resistant but it's still curable with other drugs. Don't be a fear monger.
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 11:57 AM
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Even if it was a male therapist?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 11:48 AM
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You also give them validation in tinder? How are you even MGTOW?
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 12:52 AM
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Ok just checking :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 10:03 PM
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Using hookers isn't MGTOW, you're giving them money for access to their pussy. You are reinforcing the idea that women get money just for having a pussy and they can control men with it.
/r/MGTOW28/09/16 10:02 PM
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Oh I don't agree with that either, that's rp stuff I assumed you were red pill. So following your trying of thoughts, then couldn't some people have personalities that would allow them to have sex with lots of people and still be capable of pair bonding and high impulse control? I just don't think having lots of sex is bad for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 10:00 PM
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Woah woah don't start denying your theory now. Either n count matters or it doesn't. Either you can tell by personality traits or you can't. No back pedaling allowed!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 09:55 PM
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Okay then you shouldn't need a girl to tell you she's a virgin, you should be able to tell by her being more attractive. You shouldn't need a girl to tell you she's a mega slut, you should be able to tell by her impulsivity and inability to bond.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 09:51 PM
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But why does that matter? If being a slut makes you have all these negative qualities, then why do you even need to know her n count? Shouldn't you just be able to tell she's a slut from all her negative qualities?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 09:19 PM
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Jennifer Aniston! She's almost 50, I think 47?, and she's a 10/10/10 imo
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 06:06 PM
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Do you have any statistics to back this up? Men are more likely to be overweight than women, do you really think they are more attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 06:05 PM
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Here this is a great resource to explain the basics! http://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 03:57 PM
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False. No matter how big the sample size, it needs to be representative of the sample you want to extrapolate the data to. Please, statistics classes are offered in all high schools and colleges, please take one! Otherwise you will get duped by phony studies like this!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 03:56 PM
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Yes it does! That is what representative means! It has to represent the population. If you do a survey with 99 white people amd 1 black person, that study is not representative of black people. There would have to be 12 black people to be representative. Man, I wish I lived in your world where any study is valid if it has enough participants lol regardless of the sample quality. And you can extrapolate data to anything without that pesky logic!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 01:58 PM
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He's not significantly older though, he's 24. That's a very average age for college, maybe 1 or 2 years older than average depending on his friend group
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 01:47 PM
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Representative demographics are the same demographics by percentage. If the population you want to represent is 10% x, your sample needs to be 10% x. Otherwise it isn't representative.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 01:32 PM
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It can't just have "some" diversity. It has to be representative of the sample. So if you want it to be representative of the US, it needs to have the same demographics of the US. What are the chances that the okc study is the exact demographics of the US? Not very likely. That's why it's not a good study to extrapolate to the entire US or the world population. You can only say "on okc 80% of men were found to be below average".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 01:09 PM
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No!!!! You're assuming size is enough to make a sample valid! It's not! If I took all white people and did a poll, that would be a huge sample size! But is it indicative of the entire population? No because our population is 12% black and I had 0% black in my poll. So our population is 70% people who are dating/married, did that poll include 70% of people who are dating or married? No? Then how THE FUCK is it a representative poll? It's extremely not lol why can't you admit that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 12:31 PM
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Haha how is this "game"? I thought that was a red pill words for social skills. It seems like she's just changing her mindset to be more active in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 12:15 PM
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How is it relevant if it's only a sample of single people? Not even that it's an online dating site, but it was only looking at single people. That means it is representative of anyone in a relationship, which is a huge portion of the population. So how can it be representative when it doesn't include a huge section of the population?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 12:07 PM
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This is not a "leaping assumption" this is basic statistics. You need a random sample of the population, not take your sample from all people using a specific dating site. There are not going to be any Channing tatums using the dating site because they don't need to! This is a dumb argument, look up "random sampling" or "what do you need for an accurate sample" because size is not the only thing. You need a sample representative of the entire population, not a specific subset (like men who use o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 11:56 AM
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So it's women's fault you're a bad driver? Don't blame other drivers for your bad decisions! Don't blame women for all of your faults.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 02:39 AM
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"All men are rapists OR EXPLOIT WOMEN". Which is true.... but not "all men are rapists". You're purposefully mis quoting and being disingenuous .
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 12:54 AM
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Lol no???? It's actually just "can't we all treat each other equally regardless of what your genitals look like?" Only 6% of men are rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 12:53 AM
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But if it's causing more accidents it is definitely bad and a sign of bad driving
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 12:51 AM
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Because it is not an accurate sample size of the entire population! Do you need me to explain why again? It is skewed towards a specific type of guy, not the average guy. There are not going to be many extremely hot/confident/socially extroverted. So the results will be skewed lower than average.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 12:31 AM
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I have heard guys complain about these following things which are out of her control: acne, crooked teeth, too much gum showing when smiling?, and "horse face". And there's hair, which can be ugly in a thousand different ways and which most girls style everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 09:59 PM
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No!! They absolutely do talk about male body issues as well!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 09:46 PM
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Hm I guess this is my problem. I'm a woman and I feel the way you described in my relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 09:17 PM
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He gets to be with her for the rest of his life. The prize isn't that he's first, it's that he's the one she chose to keep. By baby killing I'm sure you mean abortion? A human right? And private medical information? Yeah he has no right to know that, only your doctor does.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 08:07 PM
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How is this asking for inequality? Women should also treat incels like people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 07:08 PM
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That's everyone. A guy will put up with his high maintenance girlfriend if she's hot/puts out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 06:49 PM
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https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/33/fc/86/33fc86676ce2bf9ea527daa67403674a.jpg Really? So then what does an average guy look like to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 06:40 PM
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I'm suggesting that you can't extrapolate data taken from a small, specific population that likely shares a lot of characteristics (not extremely attractive, not very outgoing, not confident in social situations) into an entire population.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 06:06 PM
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I agree. So your statement: "a woman's attractiveness is absolute fact" is a lie. Because attractiveness is subjective. Her weight is a fact, her attractiveness is an opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 04:45 PM
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That's not how that works... if I conduct a study to figure out the average IQ, and my sample size is every student in Ivy League colleges, that's a huge sample size. But it is not a representative sample size of the general population. So I can't say "based on my study the average IQ is x". I can say "the average Ivy League students IQ is x. But not extrapolate that to the entire population. So I can say : OKcupid men were rated 80% below average. I can't say: all men are rated 80% below averag…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 04:40 PM
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lol appearance is subjective. Some people like curvy Kim K types, some like skeleton thin women. That is why weight cannot determine attractiveness alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 03:08 PM
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Ok Cupid is not indicative of the real word though. The population sample is below average, small, and skewed towards introverts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 03:06 PM
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Chloe moret is like a 9 though.... almost A listers, especially young ones, are in the upper numbers (8+)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 02:27 PM
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You can't see her hand? And why does it matter if she's wearing a dress? I'm confused, are we seeing the same picture
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 02:17 PM
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It looks like they have similar body types to me. Neither are fit, both have a slight chub.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 01:44 PM
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So different proportions for different people.... what is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 08:23 AM
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But those women have different body proportions. Kim Ks body proportions do not exist in nature. No woman has a ratio like that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 05:17 AM
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Which is usually much lower than what the kid actually needs. Should the dad not have to pay for half of the kid?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 04:54 AM
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But no girl is going to only like sex with you.... that's ridiculous. Do you think there is only 1 girl out there you would enjoy sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 04:53 AM
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That's hilarious that you say that because her ass isn't even real. If evolution told you to be attracted to a trait shouldn't that trait exist without modern body modifications. You didn't evolve in the last 10 years that plastic surgery became popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 01:38 AM
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I think its completely fine to want to be sexually compatible with your partners and everyone should be. But how does knowing her number tell you anything? She could have a low number from long term relationships but still not value monogamy and only stayed monogamous for her partners. She could have 100 partners because she went through a wild phase (like most people do) but that was 10 years ago and now she needs commitment and a long list of things before sex. As for lying, I agree you should…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 12:06 AM
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This sounds completely fair to me though. The state shouldn't be forced to pick up the dad if dad can, so as long as he gets an option for a pat test this seems fair! It just sucks so many dads need cop enforcement to give their kids money to raise them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 11:47 PM
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I just think if N count is that important and shows the character traits they claim, why do the guys even need to know her number? Cant they just look at her and tell shes a slootyMcskank?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 11:28 PM
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I've been having sex since I turned 16. I'm 46 now, and I know exactly what my N is. Then you must not have had many partners. Which is fine! But in my generation/group of friends its common to have a new partner every month or two. I'm 22, so we are all just casually dating, not looking to settle down yet. So most of my friends have ~5+ partners a year. I am not going to remember any of the 5 guys I slept with this year when I'm 30 and telling my husband my sexual history. So its kind of a weir…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 11:27 PM
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Beauty is the primary fertility and health indicator, if she's beautiful, she's worth fucking for the sake of making a baby. Uhhh thats not how biology works lol ugly women can be fertile af, hot women can be infertile. Your argument makes no sense. Are you implying girls that are not promiscuous don't like sex Uh yeah... The few girls (i think its 4%) of women who stay virgins until marriage do not transition easily into sexual relationships. here are a few examples The second one is my favorit…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 11:22 PM
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Most sluts I've known have some sort of mental or personality disorder due to congenital problems or learned dysfunction. Oh well then their terrible relationships with men was probably due to their mental problems. Most sluts don't have mental problems and are able to have perfectly happy and normal relationships with men. They don't view men as adversaries, why would they enjoy having sex with their adversaries? They just love sex and don't mind having sex with men they aren't dating or commit…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 10:50 PM
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Dude, youre assuming people even know their number, much less tell it to their friends and family lol How many people do you know who actually keep track? I've been having sex for 6 years, how am I supposed to keep track that long? Thats like saying you have to tell your SO how many times youve had meat. He might have an aversion to someone who eats too much meat. If you don't tell him, it might slip out. Its ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 10:47 PM
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But everyone knows that. No one thinks "oh she likes sex, maybe she will have sex with me!" Because everyone likes sex. Barring the sexually abused and asexuals, everyone likes sex. You love sex, right? Does that mean you want to have sex with that big black guy on the bus? No. Why would it be any different for a woman who is open about liking sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 10:45 PM
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It's advantageous for a woman to reveal her N only to men she's serious about, and only because that info will eventually come out. How? Especially if she got most of her numbers from college and now she lives in a different town with different friends. As long as they both have the same mindset about sex, why does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 10:27 PM
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Knowing she really isnt' all that attracted to him, knowing she is settling for him? Whoooaaa projecting much? Why would a woman with a high n stay with a man who doesn't satisfy her? Its much more likely that a woman with a low n would stay with a man who doesn't satisfy her because she doesn't know what shes missing or what she likes! A high n woman is going to teach her man all her kinks. Most people say their best sex comes from long term relationships. That means your wifes best sex is prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 10:26 PM
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But a high n can be a plus for a woman too. It means other men have found that woman attractive and she has sexual and relational experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 10:22 PM
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But if you like to smoke weed you can smoke weed with just about anyone. If you like sex that does not mean you like to have sex with anyone, obviously. So thats a terrible analogy. If someone likes sex that doesn't mean they are interested in sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 10:22 PM
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How is it instinctual to go after women who don't like sex? If anything, wouldn't cave men have gone after women who already had a kid so they know shes fertile?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 10:20 PM
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It creates an uneven relationship now because the man want's more than just friendship. So what? How does a woman deal with this without breaking the friendship? She just says "no thank you" and thats the end of it. If he keeps pushing it, she will have to end the friendship. But thats his fault for not taking no for an answer, not hers for having a high n. Moreover do you not believe women might feel uncomfortable with unwanted sexual attention?? Are you not a feminist?? So she will just say "n…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 10:07 PM
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Then she shuts him down when he tries something. Problem solved. You could say the same thing about women with attractive friends, and yet women still have attractive friends Then they have sex and he sees she doesn't use leather bondage play and he doesn't have those expectations anymore. Problem solved. Then she proves him wrong by having sex whenever she wants. Who cares if he wants sex sooner? All of these things are pretty much non problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 09:02 PM
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Really? I feel like if you're a man with no kids at 40 it's nbd but if you're a woman people assume you're a "cat lady" or something is wrong with you. If you are a guy and you're fat it's no big deal, big guys are "cuddly", but a fat woman is shamed and men write "no fatties" on their profiles. A man who can't pay his bills is down on his luck, it's the economy's fault. If a woman can't pay her bills is irresponsible and just looking for a handout from her daddy/the government/ a rich baby dadd…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 08:24 PM
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I feel like successful older women sleeping with the barely legal pool boy is a thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 06:11 PM
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Well to be fair to men most men aren't bragging about "teen" pussy anyway. Maybe young, but most guys don't actually like teens.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 05:37 PM
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The study you posted is about how drugs you take. The environment does affect your DNA. Your perceptions don't. Thinking you have or haven't had kids is not going to affect your DNA at all. Breathing in pollutants is going to affect your DNA. See the difference? Again, there is a genetic component but most people die because of preventable causes. They don't get enough exercise, they eat high fat foods, smoke cigarettes, etc. It's lifestyle that affects DNA, not willpower.
/r/MGTOW26/09/16 03:27 PM
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There is absolutely no evidence that DNA is influenced at all by any outside perceptions. There is also no evidence that DNA could lengthen the life span even if it wanted to. It just doesn't have the capability to do that because most people die from preventable causes already, like clogged arteries.
/r/MGTOW26/09/16 03:17 PM
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I don't think most men do fail, do you? Do you think men in general are failures?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 03:00 PM
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DNA doesn't receive feedback like that though. It doesn't change from when you were born unless it decays or mutates. It's not a DNA/cellular level that people decide to fight to live, that's a mental thing. DNA is totally different, it's pretty set from birth. Plus, men have a hard time having kids after 40, so living until 90 isn't really going to help you reproduce. DNA also doesn't play a huge part in your lifespan. Your health obviously has a genetic (DNA) component, but a huge part is how …
/r/MGTOW26/09/16 02:58 PM
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I mean... so basically they want to be lazy in bed and don't want women to know any better? lol that's the dumbest reason to restrict women's sexuality and their own dating pool I've ever heard. How insecure can these guys be :/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 02:14 PM
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Your DNA doesn't get feedback like if you have a kid or not. How would your body know on a cellular level if your semen went into a sock or impregnated a woman? It wouldn't, it's not possible. How old are you? If you're in high school or college you should look into taking an anatomy or biology class
/r/MGTOW26/09/16 02:12 PM
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Yeah and what do they have to do to achieve that? Pretty much nothing. Women aren't considered successful unless they are attractive, skinny, a mom with good kids, has a career, pays her own bills, etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 02:10 PM
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No, their DNA wouldn't know if they have reproduced or not.
/r/MGTOW26/09/16 11:54 AM
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Alright replace everywhere I said "D" with "32D"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 11:31 AM
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Well, everyone has seen a giant dick... I mean who hasn't seen porn? Women like black men for the same reasons they like white men. Some are incredibly attractive, charming, etc. I am a woman. I promise I have more insight into big dicks than you. I'm not going to lie and say that 7" isn't better than 5", but it's really not that big of a deal. As long as you're good in bed and attentive, it's really won't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 03:17 AM
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So can you never be satisfied with other women's vaginas once you've had a tight vagina? Do you have a source for women "never being able to go back"? I have never heard that before and I'm a woman. We generally just like good sex, dick size isn't the main issue. It sounds like you're insecure about your size. Giant dick doesn't make good sex, it's how you use it. Even a 4" dick can feel amazing if you hit the gspot. And a guy with an 8" dick can feel terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 03:07 AM
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Nope, it's a muscle. The more you work it the tighter it gets. Even the stretching from having a baby can be repaired by doing kegels. I mean does your dick get smaller with use? Does your perception of a tight pussy change and make you unable to appreciate your wife's?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 02:36 AM
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I mean, the beta gets her when she's 25-35 lol not exactly "old and wrinkly". And the number of guys she's had sex with doesn't change her pussy wetness or tightness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 02:26 AM
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Why is that a bad thing? It's a win for everyone. Chad gets sex while he's young and hot, but Beta gets the girl in the end. He can have sex with her for the rest of his life while Chad only had her for a couple years when she was awkward and learning the ropes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 02:03 AM
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Then why even bother getting married? What's the point, you're just making it extremely hard to break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 01:14 AM
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/11/25/who-spends-the-most-money.html Men spend 19% more than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 12:58 AM
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Maybe, if he stays hot too. And if the guy gets old and the woman stays hot she might break up with him. But that more backs up what I said... people get with whoever they are equally attractive with. If one gains a lot of weight or something their partner may break up with them and find someone more equally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 10:45 PM
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Submission was, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 10:43 PM
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Even before their looks begin to fade they pair with people who look like them. At any stage in their life, people are paired with appropriately attractive SOs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 09:50 PM
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Everyone, not just women, to for the top people. If a super model was walking around do you think she would only get hit on by 9s and 10s? Nope, every guy is going to want to talk to her. But in the end, people tend to pair up pretty closely with their physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 09:22 PM
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That's exactly my point though. Sometimes tall people are fat or ugly. Sometimes short people art hot af. Height isn't that important, it's only 1 small factor. Look back at our comments, we are talking about 5'7" guys. Efron and Beiber are 5'8" and 5'9".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 09:04 PM
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You don't think zac Efron or just beiber look alike (so not rich/famous) would be able to pick up a girl in a bar? I think those guys are stupidly hot and would have girls all over them without the money and fame.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 08:55 PM
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I think you are putting too much blame on your height. I'm sure women have rejected you for other reasons much more often than because of your height. Just like I think flat chested women who complain about having no boobs put too much weight on their boobs. It's much more likely that your lack of confidence in your height has been your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 08:54 PM
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Great! Does he ever say "I love flat tits"? Or anything about small breasts?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 08:35 PM
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Because they aren't marketing themselves, they are doing the exact opposite and staying anonymous. There are plenty of porn blogs on tumblr for women who do post pictures to get money and they do it by marketing themselves. They say "hi I'm candy and if you like my pics check out my cam site, first times free!" You can't make money and stay anonymous
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 06:48 PM
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You've never heard "real women have curves" or any rap song? "Double cup love you're the one I lean on" -lil Wayne. "Fuck skinny bitches" -Nikki Minaj. Pretty much anything that comes out of Drakes mouth is about curvy women. You can't say they aren't strongly preferred by our culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 06:18 PM
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But that's the point. He doesn't need to be tall, he doesn't need to be muscular, he doesn't need to be tan. He's hot. He doesn't need any copes like lift to make him hot, short people can be just as attractive as tall people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 05:11 PM
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Male and females sex drive are very similar with men's only being higher in 15-18 and women being higher from late 20s to early 30s. So why would women develop tastes for only 1 type of guy? Wouldn't it be the opposite, women would develop tastes for the wide variety of guys they had to marry and have babies with? Can you provide a source to back up your claims?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 05:09 PM
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But women didn't even have a choice in mate selecting until a couple hundred years ago. We were forced to be with whoever captured/bought us and it was a positive trait to be submissive or even take an active part in sex. So wouldn't women have evolved to prefer a large variety of traits from the large variety of men who they were forced to marry?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 05:08 PM
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But the tag line isn't "real women have butts" it's real women have curves. Including breast size, which you have no control over. Just like men don't have much control over their height. It's a perfect analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 05:05 PM
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Well she made that post a couple days ago providing average statistics. I mean, if men only wanted sex why wouldn't they all just visit prostitutes all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 04:42 PM
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From what I've seen of what lolly and other prostitutes say, a huge portion of their clients didn't even want to have sex, and those who did mostly opted for the girlfriend experience. Sex alone is just not fulfilling to most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 12:32 PM
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Says a guy part of a sub completely based on getting female validation... lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 12:26 PM
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99% of women who post in GW don't get money or ever expect to. They have a voyuerism fetish. Also, being a whore is fun :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 12:26 PM
1

What about women watching porn? Would we still have to pay for it? What about attractive men? Would they also get paid for the porn they produce?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 12:24 PM
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Or maybe they realized women are human and should be able to choose their own sexual partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 12:17 PM
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Even low sex marriages have more sex than single men. Almost 50% of married men have sex 2x a week while just over 1% of single guys did.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 12:13 PM
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What do those services or taxes have to do with the sexual market place?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 12:08 PM
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You can say that about anything. I don't want to pay taxes and support others in s country where I don't get to have sex with hot men either! But taxes =/= sexually fulfillment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 12:05 PM
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Can you provide a source for 80% of men having little sexual experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 12:02 PM
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This. I completely agree. There are incredibly attractive women out there with A and B cups. The guys who insist that women have to have big tits will not follow through with that 95% of the time. Same thing with women and height, we can pretend to want 6'+ but at the end of the day, the guys we think are the hottest are almost always under 6'. Those things are just only a small fraction of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 11:55 AM
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I had to use famous men because famous people are the only people we all know. It doesn't matter that they are rich or famous. They are famous in a large part because they are ridiculously attractive. Despite being short!! So it's proof that height doesn't really matter, women can drool over short men. You're right most women want a guy whose taller than them. The average American woman is 5'4". So even giving him 3 inches over her, a desirable man would only have to be 5'7".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 07:43 AM
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Less than 15% of men are over 6', so most women really don't have much of a choice but to date men under 6'.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 07:38 AM
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The average American woman is 5'4". So men only need to be 5'5", not 6'4".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 07:18 AM
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But... does it really? It doesn't seem like it. Neither gender seems to really care.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 07:02 AM
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Send her roses, apologize your ass off, and beg for forgiveness.
/r/askTRP25/09/16 07:00 AM
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Okay do you have any evidence to back up any of those claims?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 09:47 PM
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Lol what are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 09:26 PM
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Okay maybe. But you can't say that having sexual preferences is child like or that women are the only gender who have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 09:25 PM
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Do you think having sexual preferences is childish? Do men not have sexual preferences? For instance, why are men drawn to large breasts? It doesn't signify a better milk production or better fertility. Being tall is at least good at a primal level. Bigger cavemen were better providers. I think they are pretty equal. Both genders have preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 08:54 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 08:12 PM
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Believe it or not, feminists actually want to legalize prostitution. The idea is that the women won't need pimps anymore because with it all legal and out in the open they can vet their customers and be protected by the law.
/r/MGTOW24/09/16 07:50 PM
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Men's height for women is comparable to several traits in women. Like a tall guy equals a hot blonde girl with a great figure. You're comparing 1 trait for men, height, to multiple traits for women, hot, blonde, and great figure. A hot blonde woman with a great figure is in the top 5% or so of women. A tall man can still be ugly, can still be fat, can still be bald, etc. A hot blonde woman with a great figure can basically not be unattractive. A tall man can easily still be unattractive. Tons of…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 07:09 PM
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I never said any of that about women being forced to cook. Now whose reading comprehension is in the toilet... lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 06:41 PM
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Lol why are you so entitled?? If you choose not to put in any effort, your equal match would be a woman your age and smv who also doesn't put in any effort!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 05:15 PM
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That's easy. I have low standards thats all I have been saying this whole time. If you want to put in no effort, you have to lower your standards to 2 or more points below you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 05:09 PM
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But what effort, dude? I don't care about make-up, expensive clothes, perfume, or long,shiny hair. I like short hair. I like natural looks and the chick can wear ripped cheap jeans for all I care. okay then try to women who has short hair, doesn't wear makeup, down t shirts and shorts, and doesn't care about putting any effort into her looks! Then she won't expect you to put any effort into dating her. nah, thanks. I'd rather fuck my hand. Hypergamy?!?!?!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 05:01 PM
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But I shouldn't have to put in effort to sleep with women in my smv. Its not fair that all a girl gotta do is not eat like a hippo to get fucked and I have to waste time and effort charming the chick. Thats how it works. She put in the effort to look nice, you have to put in the effort to get her attention too. Maybe it would work better if men just stopped doing that and women just stopped using makeup and hair stuff and wore potato sacks, but we don't. But good luck reprogramming society and g…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 04:10 PM
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no,that's women's sexual strategy. To try and get with the best(chads) they can get. Guys aren't like that. Guys can find any non-fat chick to be attractive. Okay then why are you complaining? Go find a non fat 4 or 5 and pump and dump her. Yes, I also comb my hair. Wtf?? Straightening is not the same as combing. Women spend 6x the amount of time on their hair as men. Straightening or curling is when you go through every hair 1/4 inch section at a time and use a 400F metal stick to burn the hair…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 03:58 PM
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lol that's everyones sexual strategy! Get with the best people you can. So if you're a woman, you wake up everyday and put on makeup and a push up bra and form fitting clothes and straighten your hair. If you're a guy you take us out on a good date, give us some compliments, and make us laugh. If women stopped putting in effort they would have to fuck men 2+ points below them. If men stopped putting in effort they would have to fuck women 2+ points below them. This is basic common sense. Everyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 03:48 PM
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Lol sorry that's the game. Either put in effort or stop complaining about only being able to get ugly girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 03:40 PM
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I mean, those guys were 6-9s, so yeah I think I'm still pretty hot for pulling them lol When you walk down the street, who is dating who? Is it only the 22 year old ripped blonde surfer guy who has a girlfriend? No. The fat balding guy working at Walmart is wearing a wedding ring too. Like gets with like. 9s get with 8-10s WITH EFFORT. But you're a 7 trying to pull other 7s+ with no effort. How do you expect that to work? It wouldn't work for anyone! You can't try to fuck in your own league or h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 03:39 PM
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That's what I've been saying all along.. due to how entitled women are in this Continent. LOL bro, women don't have high standards. Youre just not as hot as you think you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 03:31 PM
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What the fuck is a classless woman A woman who doesn't make any money or do anything for herself and relies on the men shes fucking to take care of her Because she's not attracted to me, yeah. Nope because you gotta put in effort. What do you have to offer them? Attention? They can get that anywhere. Money? They have it. You have to woo them. And if you don't want to put in the time to do that, don't complain about the only women wanting you being ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 03:29 PM
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Can't fuck a 7 in America without putting a lot of work into it to save my lif Then you aren't a 7 in america. We have different beauty standards. I had the exact opposite problem. I had the exact opposite thing happen to me recently! I was a 6/7 in my college town. There were tons of beautiful women everywhere, I just wasn't anything special. Now that I recently moved to a non college town, I'm like a 9! Its all about context. So if you have trouble pulling 7s, you might not be a 7 in America, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 03:26 PM
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Why would I date career women? I'm not interested in becoming a woman's beta bux Thats why lol. If you date someone with no money, shes going to depend on you for money. If you date a woman who has a career, shes not going to give you casual sex. So either put in the effort to fuck a decent woman, or don't and don't complain about the problems that come with classless women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 03:22 PM
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I've reached the conclusion that I'm a 7 Can you fuck 7s? Then youre not a 7. YOU don't get to decide how hot you are, women do. Just like a fat woman can't just say "I'm a 9" nope, do 9s actually want to fuck you? Then you arent a 9. I want what the other guy before me had. That pussy for free. Are you as hot as the other guy though? Probably not, so you have to prove youre worth it it in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 03:18 PM
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I mean.. Men do peak at 18-25 lol which all of these guys are in. I think 99% of women are into that...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 03:16 PM
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I'm 22, I'm into all these guys lol they are hot af
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 03:14 PM
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Nope, I'm somewhere around a 7/8 and I have only fucked a few "chads". I'm just not attracted to them. And I'll settle down with whoever I want, money is not an issue for me. Money is only an issue if you don't have any, so don't date women like that. Date women with college degrees and careers. But you won't date women like that because they don't put out. So you're going to spend your youth fucking women who are classless and then bitch when you end up with one using you for your money.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 03:14 PM
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It's not just women, everyone is trying to fuck people hotter than them. You are! You just said you don't want to fuck women below your league. Neither do women. Everyone is just trying to get with the hottest people they can. Women get offended at that stuff too. Like I'm hot enough to be FWB but not to be your girlfriend? What's up with that shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 03:09 PM
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Yeah, so I guess short men can be attractive! That's my whole point!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 03:07 PM
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I think if a woman is going to fuck alphas in her prime, she's going to fuck them her whole life. But many women don't have causal sex at all, with alphas or anyone else, which is why women have more sexual power than men. Which is why men who are 7s can fuck women's who are 9s without putting in a TON of effort. So either fuck in your league or below, or stop bitching about putting in effort. You literally called the short guys "models" lol now you're saying they aren't attractive? Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 03:07 PM
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Oh really? You don't know any women who think zac Efron, Justin beiber, or Zayn Milak are attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 03:04 PM
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I 100% agree they don't. But they think they do. They think saying "I like DD boobs" means something. They don't understand band size lol but they still say it! Because when it comes right down to it, you still get guy's, right? And short guys still get girls. So we can say "I like tall guys" all we want, but a fat ugly tall guy isn't what I'm picturing. Just like saggy DDs aren't what guys really want. And then women end up happily together with the 5'10" guy just like guys end up with the B/C …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 03:03 PM
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Oh so you don't think my examples of those men are attractive? Because women do...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 03:00 PM
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How do you expect to get causal sex from women the same hotness or hotter than you? That's just not going to happen. You will have to put in a lot of effort to get women hotter than you, or you can pump and dump women uglier than you. You can't get sex with hot women without being hot or putting in effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 02:59 PM
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Because causal sex is not average, it's exceptional. Only the top 30% of men could get casual sex at the drop of a hat. So if you aren't that hot, you have to make up for it with other qualities like being witty and making her laugh. But you can 6'6" and still be ugly. You can be 5'7" and in the top 30%.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 02:57 PM
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So you're saying, short guys can be extremely attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 02:56 PM
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Well they are probably 6'6" and ridiculously attractive. If you just want to fuck I would say: Target women at least 2 points below yourself Make your intentions clear. A lot of women just like to fuck too, so post a bio on Tinder or whatever you use explicitly stating what you're looking for and those types of girls will come. The ones who want to make you wait 3 weeks will stop. Get hotter. It's hard, but the hotter you are the easier it is to pull women. Get a great bod, whiten/get braces for…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 02:54 PM
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I'm the same way! Like dude, you know we aren't going to fuck stop staring at me hard core like you want to, back up lol I have no idea how many guys I've fucked. I've been sexually active for 6 years, probably 5-10 guys a year... id estimate I'm somewhere in the 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 02:50 PM
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http://imgur.com/QKaapH9 You're not short even by Europe standards. If girls won't fuck you, it's not the height... is your personality terrible irl? Can you make a girl laugh? Remember! Fit, funny, facial hair! Be fit get some abs, have a few witty lines to make her laugh, and keep your facial hair shaved or trimmed and you'll be able to pull any girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 02:46 PM
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I'm a pretty big slut lol Well... if you don't want to talk to them, don't. I also wish guys would stop checking me, but I don't think there's any way to stop it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 02:42 PM
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Nope, women want to fuck him because of his hot face and tight bod
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 02:32 PM
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But hugh Hefner isn't attractive... he literally pays women to be his girlfriend. No girls want to be with him because of his looks. Whereas Radcliffe is extremely hot. A lot of girls want to fuck him because of his looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 02:29 PM
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You literally just said you're 5'10" and no one likes you because you're short. I'm just saying, that's not short to me, that's my perfect height.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 02:28 PM
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No... I can find people attractive without instantly fucking them. A lot more goes into having sex with someone than just finding them attractive. For one thing, if I have a boyfriend, I can find other guys attractive but I can't fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 02:27 PM
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Didn't you bitch me out for calling this short in another comment? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 02:26 PM
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So I see how that makes them more selective, but not more diverse. They only want to get pregnant with the men they deem the best, right? But why would they deem the same guy the best? Guys don't deem the same girl the hottest. Some guys like petite blondes and some like BBW brunettes. Similarly, some girls like guys that are "tall dark and handsome" and some girls like short stocky blondes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 02:25 PM
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I'm not talking about getting casual sex. I'm talking about being attractive to the other gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 02:22 PM
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For point 1. I would just add that I think people have limits on their attractiveness they can't control. It's called flaws. I agree with what you said on point 3. But do you not think men do the same thing? Sure they date a woman with an A cup, but don't they still watch big tit porn? Don't they still drool over every DD rack they see?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 02:21 PM
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I would say the number of miners in the US is 1/10 of what it was in the 70s. They are an insignificant portion of people in the job market. My dad cooked almost every single dinner growing up except on fridays when we went out, and sundays when we ordered pizza... lol my mom occasionally made a few special dishes or helped with a side.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 02:16 PM
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I prefer shorter dudes if your definition of short is 5'10". My perfect height of guy would be 5'9"-5'11". I'm 5'7", I don't want a guy I can't kiss without pulling him down to me or some guy who can't 69 because our bodies are awkward lengths.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 02:12 PM
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For most women he's not attractive? Oh that's completely wrong, read some of his interviews! He's had crowds of women follow him around NYC. He's like a 9.9/10 even though he's 5'5"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 02:09 PM
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Not even "extremely attractive" they can just be regular guys who are hot despite not being 6'. Men with attractive faces/other qualities are still attractive at 5'8" or at 6'4". Just like you don't need to have DDs to be an attractive woman. A woman with a DD rack would still have a huge advantage over a flat chested woman, but so does a guy who is 6'. But plenty of A cup women are considered attractive, just like plenty of men under 6' are considered attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 02:07 PM
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Yes pretty much! Things like height and cup size aren't that important. Women with flat chests can still be incredibly hot (Olivia Wilde) and men who are short can still be incredibly hot (Zayn Milak). Its not a deal breaker or maker.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 01:59 PM
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Okay fine whatever. So then I believe guys can be 2 inches below average and not have a detrimental impact on their dating life. It would be the same effect as a woman having a flat chest and woman having a DD rack.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 08:32 AM
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Being 5'6" is very different from being 5'10", I agree. It equally the same way that being flat and having a DD rack are very different for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 05:53 AM
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I have to use famous people. We do not know any of the same people personally, so I need to use examples that are well known. Anyone can google who Dave Franco is, no one knows who my friend Tim is. These men are still stupidly hot. If they were dirt poor and no one knew their name and an average girl ran into them on the street, her heart would race lol they aren't hot because of their money or fame, they are hot because they are physically blessed No im not assuming the guys only date 1 girl. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 05:52 AM
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Short is 5'9" and below because that is average. That means 50% of people are taller than that. Small cup size is 34B/32C because that is what is below average, 50% of people are taller than that. All 3 men are below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 05:48 AM
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Oh so you have received negative comments about your small breasts from men. Thank you for saying that, a lot of guys on here are saying that women don't get heat for having small boobs. However, ime, almost every woman has heard some negative words about her breast size. I don't really care if men like big boobs or small boobs or whatever, just like I don't care if women like tall guys or short guys. It doesn't affect me at all
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 05:46 AM
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How am I doing that? Please quote me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 05:43 AM
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I never said he was? Fame has nothing to do with it. Is he attractive? Yes. How tall is he? 5'5". So a man who is 5'5" can be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 05:42 AM
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You just added "good skin" and changed "abs" to "hourglass figure" to the female version of what you said made a man attractive. How do men with less constraints mark the top 1% while women with more only make up 20% You're clearly biased.... there's no way that just having 3 basic qualities are the top 1% that's insane. The top 1% of attractive people are the people who are famous. They are famous because they are that attractive. They are famous Instagram models and you tubers. The guy I'm des…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 05:42 AM
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I'm a 34B/32C. I posted a pic on here in my Halloween/corset thing ppd like a couple months ago. Honestly, if anything I'm a butter face, a lifetime of soccer left me with a pretty curvy bod lol. But anyway.... why do you think boobs aren't that important? Isn't that one of the first things you look at? When I have heard guys describe a woman to another guy, that's one of the first quality he describes so it must be a big deal
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 04:13 AM
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A tall guy with abs, white straight teeth, and good hair? I don't think that's top 1%. I think that's definitely top 20%, but top 1% would be like... basically everyone already famous haha I mean do you think tall women with white straight teeth, abs (or a tight stomach might be more applicable), and good hair is in the top 1%?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 04:07 AM
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Daniel Radcliffe.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 03:47 AM
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But why do you think that? Doesn't the fact that the majority of men are under 6' and the majority of women date those guys anyway, kind of prove that it really is just a preference? Only 14% of American men are over 6'. So obviously, the huge majority of women are dating shorter guys than that! So it can't be a requirement, it is only a preference
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 03:47 AM
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Interesting point, I hadn't thought about that. Although, I think enough guys like big boobs it's just assumed guy's like big boobs. It's not really "trashy" it's just the norm, like women liking big dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 03:45 AM
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Okay I agree, if you're under 5'6" it can be more difficult to find a woman than it is for a flat chested woman to find a man. What is your dating life like?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 03:44 AM
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I'm 100% positive hot guys are on maxims top 100 list lol I'm using averages. So C/D for women is large because it's above average. 5'8" is short because it's below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 03:40 AM
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What are you talking about, women get ridiculed for having small breasts all the time! I guarantee every single A cup or late bloomer has a few terrible stories about their boobs. When have women ever gone out of their way to publicly humiliate a man about his height?? What are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 03:37 AM
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Yeah I don't think that's reasonable at all to expect them to live on 40% of their salary to afford a boob job. Plus, like I'm trying to prove, it's not that important. If it was, I'm sure more women would try to afford it, but boobs and height are just a fraction of what makes up attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 03:13 AM
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A short guy can still have muscles and great teeth and great hair, all of which women love. A flat chested girl can never do certain sex stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 02:45 AM
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Dude. Less than 15% of all men in America are under 6 feet. Do you really think those guys are the only men that get women? At least (I'm being generous trying to find middle ground with you), at least 50% of men have no problem getting romantic/sexual interactions with women, right? So obviously, a majority of those guys are under 6'. So therefore at least a good portion of women must like guys under 6'.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 02:42 AM
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Oh I was talking about women mocking Efron for his height. You think men don't mock women for their breast size? Have you ever heard common "jokes" like the calling girls the president of the itty bitty titty committee. I guarantee every flat chested woman has had a few handfuls of negative experiences related to her breasts. Hell, I was just a late bloomer but I had a lot of guys say really mean things when I was younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 02:38 AM
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Do you have any sources to back this up? Or an explanation? Why would women be less diverse in mate selection? Personally, I think it varies a lot by culture, race, and just personality of the woman. For instance, some girls really like tattoos and piercings. I hate them. As a female, I don't even have my ears pierced and never have. It's just not my thing. Furthermore, I like my guys to be close to my height (~5'7"). I'm not going to lie, I prefer a couple inches taller, but I would also prefer…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 02:34 AM
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I agree, 5'4" is extremely below average and would probably be worse. I would say the cut off is around 5'5"/5'6" as far as short vs completely flat. I only consider 5'9" short because it's below average, just like I only consider Ds large because it's above average. Those are kind of the basis I'm using
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 02:28 AM
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I have never seen posts like that, I'm sure it is an extremely small minority of women. However, every picture of a woman with boobs, even great ones, will have a couple negative comments sprinkled in. Sometimes people put others down to make themselves feel better, but that doesn't mean the 1 in a hundred thousand girls who do that make Efron less attractive. I had to pick someone famous, we don't know the same people. We have to use famous people for examples Yes he's attractive that's the poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 02:25 AM
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The average height of an American woman is 5'4". Daniel Radcliffe, is 5'5"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 02:22 AM
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So would you agree that that is an unrealistic goal for the average ~20/30 year old?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 01:22 AM
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Man that does sound great of you. What do you think we as a society should do to help those men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 01:17 AM
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With that extreme, I would agree. However, I would say a 5'7" average guy has a better chance of finding a girl than an average flat chested girl does of finding a guy. 99% of women don't get boob jobs though. It's expensive (like 10k), risks your health, and can always turn out fucked up. 99% of women have their original boobs, so it's kind of a moot point that breast surgery exists because most women can't afford/risk that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 01:07 AM
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Oh no, the guy is killing it too. I mean, look at the examples I posted. The tallest is 5'9" and they are killing it. I know they are famous, but I can't post a non famous example because we obviously don't know the same people lol but Efron didn't get famous until he was like 18 and he was hot af before then, you can look up pics!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 01:05 AM
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I agree. And I think most guys actually do agree with you too. Just like I think most women would say being tall isn't that big of a deal and they would prefer someone with a proportional body.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 01:03 AM
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I never said they were short! I think the average for guys is 5'9"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 01:01 AM
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I don't want a quality discussion! I'm just saying, you can't have men and women playing with goal posts in different places. We are only comparing boobs and height. So if we are talking about a hot short guy, we have to talk about a hot flat girl. You can't compare an ugly short guy to a hot flat girl. Both genders have to play by the same rules. If you want to say "a fit girl with perky, but small tits and a cute face" you have to say "a short guy with a killer body and cute face".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 01:00 AM
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Please see the edit, paragraph 4
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 12:56 AM
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You can't go threw your whole life with a padded bra. At some point, you're going to have sex or go to a pool party and have to take your bra off. It doesn't help that our culture is so obsessed with sex, so he's going to find out eventually that you're flat. But again, this discussion is not about fixing the "flaw". It's about discussing if these are actually flaws to begin with. Are these traits actually so detrimental to people?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 12:55 AM
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So your argument is short men don't want to date tall women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 12:52 AM
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This isn't about age at all. You can't compare an ugly short guy to a cute flat chested girl. A hot 5'5" guy would pull just as much as a hot flat chested girl. An old or ugly 5'5" guy will pull as much as an ugly/flat chested girl. I'm just trying to keep the playing field fair. You can't say "pretty, young, flat chested girls with perky boobs pull guys but ugly short guys don't". You have to keep everything except height and boobs equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 12:51 AM
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Okay but you're putty a lot of other qualifiers on that: perky boobs, a fit girl. What if she has small, but saggy boobs? Or she's not that fit?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 12:49 AM
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So you let them cuck you? Isn't that really not red pill? If they aren't committed to you, they are fucking other guys. Youve probably eaten some of chads cum... Also, it sounds like youre putting alot of effort into your non relationship. You have to stay hot to keep her around? You have to make minor decisions, even tell her what to wear? How do you have time to pick out her clothes? I mean, my mom used to pick out my clothes too... I was 6, but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 12:32 AM
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You can say the exact same thing about breast size. Give an average woman a B/C and shes probably doing pretty good, no complaints, But give her a great DD rack and shes going to be pulling guys like crazy. Give her a flat chest or noticeably uneven sized boobs and shes going to be doing a lot worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 12:30 AM
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What is wrong with you? Here you essentially ask the same thing multiple times. Yes I have actually asked the exact same question several times and you refuse to answer lol. What sites make it mandatory? I'll ask again: which sites make putting in the height of a person a requirement to join the site, as you stated in your first post? I'm not sure but I suppose majority of women probably don't use a height filter for that. I can tell you from experience there is absolutely no height filter on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 12:26 AM
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Ugh yes. I played soccer in undergrad whadup ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 12:20 AM
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I completely agree. My ex was 5'9" and I fell crazy in love with him anyway even though I'm just over 5'7". You can't help who you love and height or cup size won't change that. Its just simply not as important as the vocal minority make it seem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 12:19 AM
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boobs have much lower on men's priority scale than height is women's I disagree. Do you think any woman would reject a guy that looks like Zac Efron just because hes 5'8"? How many of the men on Maxims hottest guys are under 6 feet? Edit: wtf lol just looked at the list. 90% of those winners have HUGE boobs! Katy Perry, Scarlet Johannson, Eva Longoria, Jessica Alba, Jessica Simpson, hell Lindsey Lohan and Megan Fox have had boob ENHANCEMENT surgery for christ sake.... Worst argument ever lol did…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 12:13 AM
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But as someone else pointed out, being 6 foot doesn't tell you much either. The guys can still be fat, ugly, etc. Thats kind of my point. Neither side knows what they are talking about. The vocal minority are the only ones saying these things, and they are dumb. There are hot af guys that are a few inches below 6' and if any girl met them, they wouldnt give af. Do you think any girl would reject zack efron for his height if he hit on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 12:11 AM
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To the vast majority of girls in the top 20% I'm practically invisible. But that wouldn't change by adding 3 inches to your height. If you want to get with the top 20% of women, you need to be the top 20% of men, which involves some height but also ripped abs, great hair, straight white teeth, and an attractive face. If your face/body is average, being 3 inches taller won't help. Which is the whole point I'm trying to make!! Height is rarely a deal breaker or maker! Its like the icing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 12:04 AM
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in other words, if you're attractive, you're attractive even if you're a little shorter. not everyone will like you, no. but that was never guaranteed in the first place, tall or not. Wow, this is a perfect way to put it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 12:01 AM
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Okay... can you try to change my view? Look at the examples I've posted, can you make a counter argument? Because if you can't... Why are you posting on a CMV?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 12:00 AM
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EVERY major site allows you to filter by height Not Tinder... Which 100% of my experience, so you'll have to be more specific! I am not going to go into the ones that make it mandatory. So basically none..? the fact that they dont explicitly force you is an asinine point No its not, because you argued that women have it easier because dating sites dont record cup size. Women are free to put their cup size just like guys are free to put their height! If you don't want women to judge you on that, …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 11:58 PM
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Oh really? I don't think any young, attractive women run into this problem, but I think older/uglier women do. I think a 50 year old ugly woman with big fake tits has a MUCH easier time getting a guy than a 50 year old ugly woman with A cups
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 11:53 PM
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It isn't like money, a good face or a good body, where having it adds to your SMV but not having them doesn't dock anything. Oh I think being fat or having a jacked face definitely docks you points.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 11:50 PM
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Female whr is a lot more complex though, and has a lot more factors. Height is just height, not height to should ratio. That comparison would be a lot stricter and more limiting on women since they have to meet 3 requirements while men only have 1
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 11:46 PM
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Okay, i'll replace every time I said "D" with "36D", better?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 11:45 PM
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Idk if you read my post, but it sounds like you agree with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 11:44 PM
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I agree, the bar is much lower than 6' and even then its barely a big deal. I would say issues don't start being significant until you get below the average for women, which is 5'4".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 11:44 PM
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What sites make entering height mandatory? Sites allow you to filter by height. What sites?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 11:42 PM
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It should have been obvious from the very next line that you commented that I was saying that people input their own heights But then why did you say it was mandatory? Why did you say they had to prove it? You can't just say those things if they aren't true... Eyes are not that accurate, you can get away with an inch or two. Wear some shoes with heels!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 11:36 PM
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There are very few men who would turn down a young slim woman with A cups I agree, but what about an average, older, and pudgy woman with no breasts? There are very many women who would turn down an otherwise attractive man who is 5'5" The average woman is 5'4" so I still don't think an attractive 5'5" would have a problem with at least half of women liking him!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 11:34 PM
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Most people do though, extremely close ups aren't making anyone look good either. I dare to you present me even ONE single matchmaking service that will actually SCAN pics of their users Uhh can you find me a matchmaking service that scans mens pictures for height..? lol i've never heard of that Height is something you actually provide on matchmaking sites. How do you prove it... You have to send in your license or something? It's often mandatory. What sites?? I mean, sure you could LIE, but you…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 11:30 PM
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Im not arguing how easy it is to fix it, but men can wear lifts. Cheap, no surgery. Most women, like 99%, do not get boobs jobs so its a moot point anyway. I'm arguing how the different genders pretend to put a lot of importance on a trait, but when it comes down to it neither is that important. I'm arguing that men saying "women won't date me because I'm short" is equally as ridiculous as a woman saying "men won't date me because I have small boobs"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 11:22 PM
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I'm not really talking about fixing either one though, I'm focusing on how the genders perceive and act on these "flaws" they think they have because the opposite is so popular. There's basically no way to filter for breast size online. Many don't even allow weight filtering! In contrast, the hypermajority of matchmaking sites online allow for height filtering I completely disagree and even almost put this in my post! You can tell from almost any picture how big a womans boobs are. Unless the pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 11:20 PM
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He WILLINGLY gave up his opportunity to go elsewhere to get that need met (assuming monogamy here) Do you really think so though? Do you think the average married man could find someone willing to have no-strings-attached sex at the drop of a hat? And do you think that person would be as attractive or as good in bed as his wife? and as the post stated, in the long run you would be getting waaaaaaaaaay less sex if you choose to not be married and try your game on strange women every time you felt…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 11:11 PM
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Uh, no... have you seen it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 10:31 PM
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Dave Franco is 5' 7". Justin Beiber is 5'9". Zack Efron is 5'8". And if you showed any woman their picture they would drench their panties. Stop blaming your height! A man blaming his height is like a woman blaming her cup size. Men say they only date DDs, women say they only date 6'+. Women post it in their Tinder's and Twitters, men rap about it and watch big titted porn. But when it comes down to it, how many men are seriously only dating DD women? I'm sure there are some, but most find women…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 10:30 PM
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Nope, my moms a doctor and dads an engineer. No one is risking their lives in the mines... lol is this West Virginia in the 1970s?? Haha no one works in mines anymore, dumb ass lol. I grew up in WV (dads a chemical engineer, go where the plants are) and their economy was tanking because all the miners were out of jobs. You're hilarious, I've never met anyone so backward. Thank you too!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 10:25 PM
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-_- you can literally look back and read the convo... Me: how can I give you counter examples when you haven't given me an example? You: give me an example of an average successful guy Me: gives examples You: they aren't average! They are rich and famous. Me: yeah it was a dumb question, how can you be average and successful You: fuckfuckfuckfuck. Back pedal! Max hamperstering. Blame it on her somehow because it's always the woman's fault when men look dumb???
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 10:22 PM
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Yeah I thought it was a pretty stupid question for you to ask me to name average and successful guys lol but I'll play along if it will help you get it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 10:11 PM
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Lol well duh, how would you know them of they weren't famous? My friend tim is successful af and he's average, but obviously you don't know him... But the point is, they are still successful despite being short, not muscular, not particularly attractive, etc. So apparently those things don't hold men back.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 10:07 PM
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How do you "assume" your husband sits in the couch lol you can see it. Oh I've got another one! What about thanksgiving. For some reason, men think it's okay to make women cater to their every whim on that day. They sit on the couch watching football while their wives, young daughters, and elderly mothers fetch them beer, cook an extensive meal for them, do all the dishes and cleanup, and they don't lift a finger... Can you give me any example of women doing this? Are there any stereotypes or tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 09:53 PM
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Sure! Look at most celebrities. Are the men 6'+? Are they all muscles? Are they all lumber jacks in their spare time? Justin beiber is 5'9". Dave Franco is 5'7". Hell, Bruno Mars is like 5'2"! None of those guys are muscular or tall or the stereotypical "blue eyes blonde hair". They are average guys who became successful. What's your excuse again?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 09:50 PM
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When I say "successful" I don't mean "gets pussy". Unless you think women's perception of men is the way to gauge success? When I say success I mean society does not critique him. When a woman doesn't have kids by age 35, everyone is thinking "what's wrong with her?". Her own mother is pestering her by the time she's 25! Men? You can be Clooney and openly tell people you're never getting married or having kids and that's fine. I wish women had as much leeway as men, but we have to check 20 diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 09:45 PM
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Lol how can you get the blame without the punishment? If you are found guilty of rape (the blame), you get jail time (the punishment). Regardless, PLEASE tell me how feminists blame or punish innocent men for the mistakes of other men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 09:41 PM
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Menial labor is fine for men, it's what they were made for. But you can't expect a woman to do a job like installing cable and not go insane. That's just not enough mental stimulation for women. Also, women are much more likely to have high school, college, and phds than men. What menial job is going to hire anyone with a phd?? Women just can't do menial work like men, they weren't made to lift heavy things and do tedious work day after day. They need challenging things to keep their minds busy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 09:40 PM
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Translation: don't make me feel bad for whining
/r/MGTOW23/09/16 08:40 PM
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How can I give you counter examples when you haven't given me any lol god damn men are dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 08:39 PM
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Be more attractive! Stop whining and actually PUT IN EFFORT
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 08:38 PM
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Can you give me an example of how they have to be those things though? Because I'm sure I can give you a counter example of guys who are respected and don't act like that... meaning that those things are not necessary to being a respected man in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 08:32 PM
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What is the point of anything you just said? Pornstars have FAKE boobs and butts. They still have a low BMI because their boobs aren't fat, it's silicone. BMI of 20 is on the lower end of overweight. Why do MGTOWs want almost-underweight women? Because they set unrealistic expectations for women. Men can be fat lol it's not about ""hiding their curves"". Fat is 4-5x the size of muscle. That means you would literally have to be a professional athlete or body builder to have an "overweight" BMI ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 07:10 PM
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Oh man The Hunting Ground is an amazing documentary about rape culture in the US, 10/10 would recommend. It's a pretty solid study. They had students and non students, 18-40 year olds, almost 2000 men... pretty solid all around. Again, 10/10 would recommend the doc. I can't believe some guys tried to excuse the research by saying the men "only raped during the academic year" wtf lol. If I only kill people 9 months out of the year, am I still a serial killer?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 06:57 PM
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I never said any of those things..... you're just trying to debunk my argument so you don't have to deal with it using logic lol because you know I'm right.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 06:41 PM
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Would you consider trump successful? Does he fuck women? Because he's not tall, he's not muscular, he's not handsome, and I doubt his dick is big since he's white. Hilary on the other hand? Skinny, successful, attractive for her age, married, etc. Women have to fit in so many boxes to be successful. Men can be fat, ugly, divorced, no kids, accused of being a pedo, and still be successful. Men can do no wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 06:39 PM
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Why is it controversial? What's wrong with it? Sometimes the truth is hard to accept, but you can't just put your head in the sand and ignore it :/ and these are convicted rapists. Just think about how high it would be if we actually caught more than 30% of rapists!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 06:37 PM
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I think we are teaching men to be too demanding. On MGTOW, they regularly bring up that women with body modifications or a BMI over 20 are sooo disgusting. Then we think about how 75% of men over 40 are overweight or obese, compared to less than 60% of women. They don't understand like marries like. If you're fat, you're probably going to marry someone fat. If you're a shitty partner, your partner is going to be shitty. You can't complain your wife isn't xyz when you aren't xyz. Honestly, at lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 06:36 PM
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If I get black out drunk and wake up to find some guy has fucked my ass, that's my fault, right? If I leave my possessions lying around in heaps of junk and they get thrown away, that's my fault.
/r/MGTOW23/09/16 06:31 PM
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Unless the victim made poor choices that led to consequences...
/r/MGTOW23/09/16 06:31 PM
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lol then how does feminism force men to take the punishment for all men? If they don't, why do you get to take credit for men's accomplishments?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 06:30 PM
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Getting down on his knees and presenting her with expensive jewelry in the hopes that she might agree to marry him is pretty "begging".... he has to earn commitment from her. She can get dick from pretty much anywhere, anytime. For her to commit to him and not cuck him, he has to prove he's worth it, and then he has to ask. She doesn't have to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 06:29 PM
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False. Women have to be skinny and attractive and submissive. Men have no expectations. If they don't kill or rape anyone they get a pat on the back.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 06:27 PM
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It's a trope because it's so common... how do you think it became a trope lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 06:26 PM
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Says who? Not society. If a woman isn't married with kids by 35, society says she's doing something wrong. If a woman is 20lbs overweight, she is constantly criticized, even by her own family, whereas Donald Trump is 100lbs overweight and he can be shown on tv every day. Remember all the comments made about Palins weight in 2008? You notice all the grief Hilary gets about her hair and outfit choices? Trumps hair is ridiculous and he's fat af but the media doesn't care. He's a man, he can't do an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 06:25 PM
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Feminism forces gender roles on women? Feminism forces beauty standards on women?? I don't think so... Oh so you just want to get laid, yeah I guess men have to put in effort into that. But to just be successful? Nope. A fat guy with no kids and no career is fine. A fat woman with no kids and no career is constantly criticized for all 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 06:23 PM
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You do need those things in our society though. You can't get a job without a cell phone, at least not a professional job. And seriously, how many people do you think don't own a tv...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 06:21 PM
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You can't be "more" equal. You can either be equal, a misogynist, or a misandrist. You can't want equality and also want more rights. I made this account to post on truecels when it was a sub. I'm a 22 college educated white woman... I fuck lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 03:46 PM
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Feminism asks you to go to jail as a rapist for just being a man? Lol what the fuck are you talking about feminism asks you to "share the blame"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 03:44 PM
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Do you not think wives bail out their husband? In 38% of marriages women make more than the men. How common is the trope that wives/ girlfriends work all day, come home and do all child care, cooking dinner, all while the husbands sits on his ass drinking a beer?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 12:00 PM
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Fun fact: about 40% of couples have a female bread winner. So yeah, women have allowed men of their stress as a provider quite well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 10:56 AM
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Wtf, you're talking about the Dark Ages? Lol that was literally thousands of years ago. How do women need from protection now? Honestly, if men would just stop committing crimes against them, like rape and SH, we wouldn't need protection. We don't need "protection" we just need men to have some self control. We just need men to be 1 step above an ape.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 10:55 AM
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Alright that's fine, as long as I don't have to read a 4000 word essay from them bitching about how it's their daddies fault. Or are you saying MGTOW men are as bad as women?
/r/MGTOW23/09/16 10:53 AM
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Porn gives men everything? Then why do men still chase after women? Lol your hand will never give you a blowjob. Havent you read lollys experience as a hooker? I think she said 1/3 of her clients never even asked for sex. They were paying her thousands of dollars an hour just for companionship. Similarly, you know what the most common prostitution package is? The Girlfriend Experience. Not the porn star experience, the girlfriend. Where you pay a woman to eat dinner with you and pretend to like …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 10:52 AM
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I've given you examples of things women are judged by. Can you give me examples of things men as a whole need to be to be considered a successful man? You can fat (Trump), ugly (also trump, or like any famous guy, half are ugly. Women have to be hot to be famous you don't see Hillary being 300lbs or having bad hair like trump). Women have to be hot, but not slutty, a good mom and housekeeper while also working 40 hours a week. The standards women are held to to be considered successful are crazy…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 10:46 AM
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It looks easy because men have no expectations. Please answer the question! What is something men as a whole are criticized for?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 10:42 AM
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http://imgur.com/jy5mKDP
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 10:41 AM
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How do you lead a girl who won't commit to you? Can you give me an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 04:28 AM
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Are you serious? Men don't have to do anything in our society to be a successful person. Women have to weigh the right weight, be super mom and have a fulfilling career. If a the kid is misbehaving it's moms fault, if the house is dirty it's moms fault. How are men critiqued as a whole for anything??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 02:52 AM
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Oh wow, you invented the Internet and bridges and the concept of shelter?? Lol wtf, you don't get credit for all of man kinds creations just because you're male
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 02:24 AM
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LOLOL are you seriously blaming inflation on women joining the workforce?? hey would own their home after twenty years of paying mortgage, save for college and retirement, send their kids off into the world with a good head start, and leave a modest inheritance when they die Yeah, that was back when families had 1 car total, not 3-5. That was before we had to pay for cell phone plans for the whole family, internet, and cable. Not to mention, their entertainment was a movie once a week or listeni…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 02:10 AM
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What are you talking about? Lol no one said racism was limited to colleges... Wtf lol Racism has nothing to do with getting into college. Its all the stuff that happens before that, like not having access to clean water or a secondary education.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 02:05 AM
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I'm not going to write a huge drawn out thing, but most of the things you listed are completely false.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 02:02 AM
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I feel like the things I listed above are very common, almost fundamental tenants of the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 02:01 AM
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I mean, being born in a high crime area with lead paint and gang activity isn't "nature" really, but who are you going to sue for that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 01:06 AM
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Oh I think they do. Most red pillers think that men should have some sort of right to force their partner to get an abortion and that women should be punished for getting divorced, among other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 01:05 AM
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Where do you think the term "female privilege" came from? Feminists have always talked about their white privilege over their minority sisters. But honestly, female privilege is not that helpful. It helps with things like getting free drinks, which is obviously not as impactful as male privilege helps with things like getting higher paying jobs. Males have higher rates of being assaulted by other men lol. This is things like getting into bar fights! If they don't want to be assaulted, just stop …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 12:38 AM
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Blacks are only 10% of the population, while whites are the majority. So our homeless population should reflect that. Our homeless population should be 10% black, so if it's 50% black, we have way more black homeless men than white homeless men proportionally. So when we have limited services and resources to offer the homeless population, blacks may be the focus of those resources because we want to help alleviate as much of the problem as possible for our resources. If blacks are unequally mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 12:33 AM
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You're right, you can earn class privilege, but you can't earn race or gender privilege. Even low SES white men still have male and white privilege. An example of this is with the legal system. Black men get much harsher prison sentences than white men. Even a poor white guy still looks white to the jury. There is nothing a black guy can do to change his skin color and gain that same privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 12:28 AM
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A great example of how feminism helps men is increasing the number of women in the work force. So I'm sure you know, it wasn't always kosher for women to work, and it was definitely not okay for her to be the bread winner. Feminism empowered women to be independent, not to limit themselves based on what a man would want, and to aspire to more than motherhood if they want. This helps men by decreasing the pressure on their role as a sole provider! Men can even be stay at home dads now! Can you im…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 12:23 AM
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I mean.. yeah lol because society is the way it is. Racism and sexism only exist to the amount we let it, which isn't much. So unless you're completely delusional or don't live in the US, your argument lacks a fundamental logical basis
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 11:25 PM
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We have given it decades lol the feminist movement started in the 1700s, the civil war was fought in 1860s lol we've given it hundreds of years. We are still getting more PC every generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 11:20 PM
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But people don't vote for trump because he's PC or anti PC. They vote for him because he's the republican candidate and we've had a democratic president for 8 years lol You really think every trump voter is anti PC? That's like 1% of the population, Trump would have no following of those were his only voters.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 11:17 PM
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Correct. Because you can't be racist against white people so... no one else has to be quiet about their non racism lol. Again, if people wanted to change, they would. If society decided it was a mistake to be PC, we would go back. But no one does. There's no legitimate movement for reinstituting segregation in schools or traditional life for women. But there are hundreds of legitimate organizations that want to increase racial and gender equality. Listen to society's actions, its pretty good at …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 11:15 PM
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Yeah.. they have to be quiet about it because society doesn't allow racism/sexism anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 11:09 PM
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But he's not anti PC culture... he's pro religion in politics for gods sake lol how much more PC can you get? If people wanted to revolt against PC culture they can. They vote for trump for a lot of other reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 11:07 PM
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My dog has no idea how much my shoes cost. He thinks my slippers are as tasty as my designer shoes. Yeah exactly, she was just cleaning up. OP admitted the rest of the stuff she threw out was worthless junk. He needs to take responsibility for not taking better care of the book, not blame his mommy for not cleaning up after him better.
/r/MGTOW22/09/16 11:06 PM
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Uhh feminists coined the phrase "female privilege" lol. We definitely recognize that men and women get different privileges. The problem is, female privilege only applies to attractive women and an example is getting a free drink every once in awhile. Male privilege applies to all men and an example is having much less risk of being raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 11:04 PM
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So kill off 70% of the male population?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 11:01 PM
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If you want more women to fuck/marry men and have more kids, you need to make it possible to do so. In Japan, women are expected to drop out of the work force when they have a kid, and a lot of women either don't want to or can't afford to do that, so no kids. They also have high standards in Japan. You're a failure unless you're an A++ student. So if you have to study all the time, you don't have much time for dating or even thinking about men. So what could the government do? Well I'm a libert…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 11:00 PM
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lol I mean obviously they do, or they would try to change it. But no one is fighting for segregation of schools or for women to be submissive. In fact, we are doing the opposite! We are fighting for more equality. It's a big deal when no blacks are nominated for oscars. It's a big deal if a woman is raped. As a society we show that we enjoy PC culture by enforcing it ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 10:54 PM
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I'm not sure what your first paragraph is talking about? Manipulation doesn't matter... Racist are more wuiet about it. That's exactly my point. They can't be openly racist because they will be fired from their jobs and lose their social standing. As a society, we are more PC than we've ever been and it's always increasing. People in 1900 were less racist and more PC than people in 1800. We just simply don't allow racism and sexism anymore, so the more sexist a manosphere idea is, the faster it …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 10:52 PM
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I mean... I don't know if any organization that doesn't have anti rape policy in place. Pretty much all everyone is actively trying to decrease rape. You can't say that's not a mainstream goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 10:49 PM
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I'm just arguing it's not anti PC. It's not PC backlash, because virtually everyone likes PC culture. We realize that racism and sexism are born out of ignorance and we don't want to go back to that. No one is trying to get the N word back, no one is trying to get women out of the workforce, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 10:48 PM
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And if he's a good partner, some other girl is getting dick that she wants
/r/MGTOW22/09/16 10:41 PM
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How do you know they put no effort? They could have done their makeup for an hour, took 100 pics to get the pic just right, all to upload it to her profile for you to see. Women spend a lot of time improving their looks (more than men), which is a big part of online dating, so you can't say they aren't trying just because they don't message you
/r/MGTOW22/09/16 10:38 PM
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Oh okay so you admit that men wanted to get married enough to buy her thousands of dollars worth of jewelry, get down on his knees usually in public, and beg her to marry him. That's kind of my point... men are either so weak they do anything women ask, or they actually want to get married and go through the process to make it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 10:36 PM
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Uh men can just have self control? Stop killing people, raping women, that sort of thing. I know it's a lot to ask of men to have that amount of self control, but women really don't need protecting, they just need men to not be animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 10:34 PM
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I think everyone has the exact sex life they want. Women aren't "sexually frigid", they just aren't having sex with you. If men stopped pursuing women, women would have to pursue men more often. But if a woman really wants a man, she does pursue him.
/r/MGTOW22/09/16 10:32 PM
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Couple questions, can she weigh over 135 if she's over 5'6"? Otherwise we are dangerously close to the "underweight" "eating disorder" category of women. Secondly, there are more fat men in America than fat women. So if you're a guy in shape, you should have your pick of non fat women! Or do you think that fat guys should get skinny women?
/r/MGTOW22/09/16 10:29 PM
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Did she know she was throwing out the book? If I leave my expensive shoes out and the dog chews them up, I don't blame the dog. Sounds like you should take better care of your valuables.
/r/MGTOW22/09/16 10:20 PM
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How were women more protected though? The only thing they have ever needed was for men to have self control. We don't need protection, we need men to stop attacking women. Do you know the rate of female on female violent crime? It's negligible.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 10:10 PM
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I'm sure if you're the privileged class you see the fight for equality as an attack on you, but it's really not. Feminism is good for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 10:07 PM
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Except men who are rapists are 7% of all men. Muslims who are terrorists are literally 0.002% of all Muslims lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 09:39 PM
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They need one to prevent them from committing a violent crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 09:37 PM
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I mean... It's a pretty big deal, do you really think men are so weak women just nag them into committing for life and spending thousands on a ring? Usually men have more back bone than that, do you know any extremely weak men who didn't want to get married at all but did it because the woman told him to?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 09:32 PM
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You don't have to be thrown off buildings to be oppressed... How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 09:29 PM
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Yep exactly, and bias confirmation as well. I read a study that said 25% of all men between the ages of 16-25 had something illegal on them when they were frisked. Weed, fake IDs, alcohol, paraphernalia, whatever, but the % of guys who had illegal stuff was similar in all races. But the cops stopped black men more often, so black men got caught with stuff more often, so cops felt justified in stopping them more often. It's like extreme confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 05:26 PM
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So you're trying to tell me that a high SES white woman has less privilege than a low SES white man? Just because people see him as a man? Nope I never said that... Youre comparing class privilege (high SES) to male privilege. They are completely different. Male privilege for instance, you have a much lower chance of being sexually harrassed. Class privilege would be she has less of a chance of getting the cops called on her for a minor infraction. Privilege comes from wealth, not race or gender…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 05:20 PM
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I think it's interesting!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 05:06 PM
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sometime you need to take a trip to Alabama, Mississippi, or central Florida and visit the trailer parks there. I can promise you that you won't find any white men with privilege Thats now how that works -_-. White privilege doesn't mean that no white people are poor. It means that people won't have an unconscious bias against you. Example: a 15 year old hispanic girl holding a baby will get dirty looks because people assume negative traits about her, like that she was irresponsible and got preg…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 04:55 PM
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White men are over 90% responsible for everything you enjoy in this so maligned "Western civilization." That's a cold hard fact Great, if its a cold hard fact you can provide me a source! Because before 1965 this was explicitly a white country and it was founded to be that way What does this even mean.... You know there were allll sorts of races living in the US at this time right? I can't even argue about this, youre ridiculous. You aren't entitled to admiration or sex from women just because y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 04:47 PM
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It depends on the era. Women were still owned by their husbands until the ~17-1800s. I haven't read any Austen, have you read The Yellow Wallpaper? It's a short story from the 1700s highlighting how little bodily autonomy and freedom women had, even in things like leaving the house alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 04:42 PM
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Lol wtf. Dude, you know how important slaves were right? And women's contribution to science and technology that made it possible for us to have wifi and cell phones. Men have also caused horrific wars and held society back using religion. The argument that anyone is responsible for or entitled to anything because of what their ancestors did is ridiculous. You don't deserve anything just because you're white or just because you're a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 04:39 PM
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Uhh I agree that white women have had it better because white people have had it better. They don't tear down men to get "brownie points" lol in fact we don't tear down men at all! You're thinking of misandrists. Also, we recognize that white men are the epitome of privilege. They have gender, racial, and usually class privilege, so they are often compared to minority women to show the contrast of how society treats differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 04:21 PM
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Like what? Give me an example of a policy or attitude promiscuous people could pass that is bad for society. All I can think of is they would pass promiscuous attitudes, which isn't bad. And the policies they would pass would make sex safer, like mandatory condom laws
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 03:38 PM
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Well... we couldn't vote, didn't have much say in our lives, couldn't choose who to marry, how many kids to have, couldn't own property, had no say in our own medical decisions... idk, we were basically one step about animals or slaves. You were literally owned by your father or husband. If you went to the doctor and were found positive with an STD because your husband had been visiting prostitutes, the doctor would tell the husband and not tell the woman and treat her in secret. That's insane, …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 03:35 PM
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I'd argue the exact opposite. Feminism is such a success because female oppression was so horrible and widespread. So many women could identify with their message, it surpassed the culture of submissive women that had been in place for thousands of years. Feminists martyrs also died by literally starving themselves to death until women got the right to vote. They had no power, and did not want to be violent, so this was their only way they could protest. Liberty or death. Ps. Women have had the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 03:17 PM
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Awesome post, I never thought about it that way. It also fits with what I have heard from lolly and other sex workers: a lot of men just want female companionship, not sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 02:26 PM
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Why mention it in the first place? If you're not about to claim other (deceased) women's struggles, why mention it at all? What do you gain from it? I literally already told you. I was comparing womens struggles to mans struggles. You're clearly bullshitting here LOOL no youre embarrassed and trying to save face. You assumed a bunch of shit about me, all of which was false, and now youre grasping at threads. You know I never made any argument that women should have more rights than men. You beli…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 02:24 PM
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Yep I guess I am. And thats okay, I am not missing out by being ignorant of why children throw temper tantrums
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 01:59 PM
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You are a feminist, but you expect men to be strong and stoic Feminists call that toxic masculinity... Feminists expect men to express their feelings. I was saying wtf because youre acting like no one cares about men. Not even other men... Idk why you feel that way, that isn't what my reality looks like at all. Men support each other and society was designed for men. Believing in patriarchy and more than equal rights for women, while expecting men to be strong at the same time. These are the exa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 01:57 PM
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Nope. Do you know why ISIS is bombing people?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 01:46 PM
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Sure, but equally you don't need to call yourself a red piller to have traditional ideas Feminism ideas are pretty mainstream: more access to abortion, less restrictions on sexuality/gender roles, equal pay for equal work. But you can't really compare red pillers to traditionalists outside of a relationship context. Red pillers advocate PUA/female manipulation tactics, which are very not mainstream. Politically, they are more like the KKK than mainstream. I agree it will never disappear. But it …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 01:44 PM
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No one pities men, self-pity is all they have left. Everyone is an enemy to a modern man. The only true friend you can have is yourself. What the fuck are you even talking about... Many things happened a few hundred years ago. You and other modern women are in no position to claim any benefits Again, what the fuck are you talking about. How am I claiming any benefits. I am comparing mens struggles to womens struggles. Womens struggles are objectively, much much much worse. All women were slaves,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 01:33 PM
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I mean, labels don't really matter. You can call yourself a feminist, an egalitarian, whatever, as long as it's all the same thing. Personally, I'm a radical feminist and my ideas are pretty mainstream. Some main goals are: less restrictions on abortions, paid maternity leave, and an increase in the awareness of rape culture. Those ideas are pretty mainstream and have been around for a long time. So while I agree most people don't identify as feminists, most people have similar ideals. At least …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 01:29 PM
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They aren't teenagers, they are middle aged men... and they didn't do anything heroic, they are saying dumb sexist shit on the internet. If they didn't want people to laugh they shouldn't post such funny posts! Seriously, a sub called MGTOW that's obsessed with women? They are unintentionally ironic, it's hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 01:24 PM
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I mean, it's really not though. He said a couple racist things about Mexicans a few months ago. Oh and he made that impossible promise about building a wall that no one expects him to follow through on. On the other hand, look at how much back lash he gets. Hilary is a terrible candidate and she still might win! Usually people like their presidents at the beginning and the ratings go down over time, but he already has one of the lowest positive feedback numbers of any candidate. We as a society …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 01:22 PM
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Oh I don't think a lot are teens, I think a lot are middle aged men! But yeah, I just don't believe anything they are saying. They are so out of touch with reality and drowning in their own self pity. I mean seriously, how many of them have been raped, beaten, kept as sex slaves, had friends murdered, had kids killed, all at the hands of women? Probably .01%. And yet that was standard treatment of all women until a few hundred years ago, and in some places it still is. And yet, I don't think a W…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 01:15 PM
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Oh I don't think he's anti PC at all lol he just says stuff to get attention. He's pretty PC, he's against birth control, thinks religion should be more involved in government, etc. If you think Donald Trump is "anti PC" you're going to have a bad time. And regardless, even Donald Trump couldn't say the N word, which is something we said with impunity just a few decades ago!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 01:11 PM
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Do what? Join MGTOW? I have no idea. I'm sure they feel slighted by women in some way... Honestly, I don't really care.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 01:07 PM
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You can't sue nature lol. You can't sue anyone for having been born poor and black and surrounded by crime, drugs, and gangs from a very young age.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:58 PM
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I don't think you need to call yourself a feminist to want equality, especially an equal relationship. People like your coworkers have always existed. In fact, 50 years ago they would have said "a woman dressing slutty should expect to get raped" and they would be talking about women showing their knees. Society is constantly progressing. That's why people get embarrassed when their older relatives say shit in public, the same things aren't acceptable anymore. So, I think there are some traditio…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:56 PM
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Source? Donald trump is not new. Every politician runs to the extremes during the primaries, and back to moderate for the general election. He's not new, remember how ridiculous Ben Carson was in 2012? Yeah, I'm saying society has become more progressive... women in the workforce wasn't a thing to be proud of even just 40 years ago. Thank god for feminism!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:51 PM
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Being promiscuous is better for society on an individual and general level. Do you disagree, and why? Now, LOGICALLY form an argument. No vacuums or perfect worlds.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:48 PM
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Proof of what? Racism...?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:47 PM
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Yep, that's exactly what they are haha you won't see a single post on there offering support or solutions to their problems, it's just s gang of sad angry men who have pissing contests over who hate women more. But I'm not knocking the sub, I love it. Not as good as r/truecels was, but it's pretty funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:46 PM
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I agree, that should be the only factor! But it's not, because we don't live in a vacuum. It costs money to get those skills, so people with more money (usually white people) would always get those jobs. You have to interview for jobs! And humans like people we identify with, so white guys hire white guys (this is statistically proven, it's an unconscious bias everyone has). And if you're black or a woman, you have been held back from learning those skills your whole life! What is your solution …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:43 PM
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Oh my bad, I thought we were having a logical discussion about the OP. I forgot you were incapable of that!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:38 PM
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It's just not very convincing that you're "going your own way" or that "men don't need women" when even MGTOWS obsess over women lol. It reminds me of the sitcom trope of the guy being like "I'm so over her, I don't like her at all anymore... why, what did she say about me?"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:37 PM
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https://www.google.com/amp/www.forbes.com/sites/lisaquast/2011/02/14/causes-and-consequences-of-the-increasing-numbers-of-women-in-the-workforce/amp/?client=safari But I wasn't talking about feminism, I was talking about PC culture in general. 50 years ago the top comment could have used the N word with impunity, but now we as a society have evolved our rules as to what is and isn't okay. We are always evolving and getting more progressive, we just have to keep challenging societal rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:34 PM
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Dude. No culture exists where everyone is completely celibate or completely promiscuous. You're making a purposefully straw man argument. In all cultures there has been sex in and outside of relationships, in all contexts. Even in religious fundamentalists groups sex is used from a young age, but also denied to most members! You can't just make your argument live in a vacuum where an entire society is completely one or the other. So, again, how the fuck does other people's sex lives effect you? …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:31 PM
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But women obviously don't have equal opportunity. Just like blacks don't. That's why programs like affirmative actions are so important! They try to offset (aka make equal) racism and sexism to increase equality. You can't say that the black girl in Detroit has equal opportunity to go to an equal university and get an equal job as a white boy. You know that. You're against affirmative action because you're a male, probably white, and you don't want any competition in your university and job.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:26 PM
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Does sexism exist? Yes, 100% and people express these ideas alllll the time. The idea that women are succubus and evil and seduce poor weak men is just one of these ideas. However, I think society is constantly progressing to a more equal and liberal state. You could get away with saying much worse than that 50 years ago, and I'm sure in the next 50 years it will be much different. So I think it's common enough that the average person comes in contact with a few sexist/racist/manosphere ideas a …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:20 PM
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How do the laws work?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:16 PM
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But wayyyyy more people are feminists than red pill... and way more people are for equality/egalitarian relationships than traditional ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:16 PM
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Lol no that's not what I'm asking. How does someones sex life effect you? Not culture. If someone in your life is promiscuous or a virgin, how does that effect you? Seriously, answer the question or accept you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:13 PM
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Yeah of course, but they aren't discussing those things or any intellectual topics... for instance, yesterday there was a post about how women shouldn't get tattoos or piercings and body mods. They were all circle jerking over how those women are sooo disgusting and no one will love them. If they are "going your own way", why do they care what color women dye their hair? It's just hilarious, it's so easy to see through their temper tantrum
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:11 PM
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Google doesn't work for you? I mean... it was created for that purpose. I don't see how you can just disagree with that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:08 PM
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What do you mean, protecting their status? That would elevate their status
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:07 PM
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How? Everyone can date who they want as long as its old enough to be consensual. Women will pretty much always have options, even older women, and I don't think the number of guys using sugar babies is significant anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:05 PM
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That's just proof men do need women. Seriously, that sub is hilarious. "We don't any more to do with women! So let's make our sub constantly discuss them!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:03 PM
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What is a golden skirt? Equality is literally the purpose of affirmative action 😑
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 11:53 AM
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But again, how does that effect you. No one has been able to answer that question. What does it matter to you if your neighbors or friends or anyone in your life is practicing promiscuity or celibacy? In what tangible way does it effect you at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 11:52 AM
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No... abstinence only teaching teaches that condoms don't work. Those programs have much higher rates of STDs and teen pregnancy than regular sex Ed. It literally is about knowledge, knowledge is power. If people have the opportunity to protect themselves from STDs (especially if they were deadly) they usually take it. Plus... again, I don't think we need to worry on the off chance our antibiotics stop working in the near future
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 11:50 AM
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Oh no that's statistics, It's not an opinion. Liberals are more likely to be educated than conservatives and something like 85% of feminists have some college. I think it has to do with liberals and college kids both tend to be young, and you interact with diverse people in college. It's easy to be racist when you live in Podunk SmallTown and never interact with other races, but when you're actually seeing the struggles of other people it's a lot harder to hold on to your conservative beliefs. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 11:46 AM
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But we can easily fix that with better education. If religious groups stopped saying that condoms didn't work, more people would wear them! I don't think you can say "people should practice a celibate lifestyle on the off chance that antibiotics stop working some day, and people just refuse to wear condoms". Thats a long shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 11:42 AM
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How... I mean like I said, everything effects everyone slightly. But 99% of the time, it only effects the people leading the lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 11:39 AM
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Seriously, answer the question. Tell me any tangible way that other people's sex lives effect you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 01:07 AM
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Are you serious? What a dumb question. If this guy is autistic and has little dating experience, she can help him without women being uniform.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 01:06 AM
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Yep, that's actually a thing. If you have adopted or half siblings of other things you see less differences in race. That's exactly how biodiversity works.... we want as many different combinations of genes as possible. So everyone should try to have lots of babies with all different partners, technically.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:14 AM
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They do all of those things. And none of them effect me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:12 AM
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I think it would stay pretty much the same. People currently have the ability to be promiscuous and they still choose LTR and marriage often. Idk, I'm a pretty big slut by red pill standards and I've never had it be an issue in my LTR. Since 3/4 of women lose their virginity as a teen, I don't think men can afford to be that picky even if at one time it benefitted them. Which you would need to back up with a source for me to believe that promiscuous women are bad for relationships anyway, but I …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 11:25 PM
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And if their sex lives did affect you, promiscuity would be the best for society. It would increase biodiversity, decrease racism (because everyone would have a black brother and Asian sister), and increase community relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 11:07 PM
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No they don't... Literally you can think you need to sacrifice a virgin to appease the Sun God. Unless you actually do it, it doesn't affect any one else. So again, how the hell does other people's sex lives effect you??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 11:01 PM
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I agree. A lot of red pillers want to marry young women with no independence. They don't realize how those factors = high risk of divorce!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 10:55 PM
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Uh she's had guys hit on her. She knows what works.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 10:54 PM
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That's a good thing. Then wives will have to have sex with their husbands so they don't look for it elsewhere. This isn't quite true. Almost 90% of men have sex at least once a year. The bottom 10% who can't get sex, probably shouldn't reproduce honestly. Eh, who cares what those small amount of people think. If she can get 20 guys to fuck her she can get 1 guy to marry her. I don't know what the dark triad is, but as a woman, I'll tell you what we want. Fit, funny, and a good fuck. No matter wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 10:44 PM
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Yup! Marry smart women!! I'm sure it's just good judgement. 19 year olds and people without college degrees are more likely to make poor decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 10:41 PM
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Lol wtf is "the dark triad". Sounds like something from Harry Potter
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 10:39 PM
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What do you mean? I think her own life experience is critical to helping him
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 10:38 PM
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Honestly, if your only complaint about your marriage is you can't play Xbox for 6 hours straight with 2 kids, she sounds pretty damn fantastic.
/r/MGTOW21/09/16 10:36 PM
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What is so bad about your marriage?
/r/MGTOW21/09/16 10:32 PM
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Marry after 25 and divorce drops to 15%!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 10:23 PM
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Yup. Marry after 25 and divorce rate drops to just below 16%.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 10:22 PM
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Yes I agree. It might be best for it to be a woman. Women make good wing men because women are more likely to trust other women, plus she will be much more insightful than a man, and be able to clearly explain the dos and don'ts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 10:16 PM
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How does me having sex effect you? How does anyone on this sub being promiscuous or virginal effect you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 10:14 PM
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What are you talking about? It's okay to fully explain your ideas in 1 post haha
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 10:09 PM
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Stare rape was created to make fun of feminists. It's not a real thing feminists believe... Haha Jesus, no wonder you have a bad opinion of feminism! Stop watching YouTube videos just because the girl is hot, watch women like Anne Munch, she was a DA for years and does an amazing job of explaining rape legality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 10:02 PM
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Oh they know a lot of men don't find it attractive. They don't give AF. Women aren't trying to impress men, they don't care about men.
/r/MGTOW21/09/16 09:50 PM
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I get what you're saying, but I wouldn't consider them "extremists" unless they advocated harm. And if they advocate harm to others we should kill them god damnit! ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 09:34 PM
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I mean.. no one wants that though. Everyone wants equality... thats why we created affirmative action programs, to offset the balance of privilege given to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 09:28 PM
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lol, except the entire basis of the red pill is misogynistic... You can't base your entire sub around gender roles, AWALT, ect. and then say you are egalitarian. 0% of the red pill is egalitarian. At least most of feminism is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 09:27 PM
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Dude. I'm not talking about the minority as in Jews or assimilate as in die... Have you read the context of our thread lol. I am saying that by deleting extremist subs, we take away their power. Without each other to circle jerk and echo their thoughts, they are forced to have more moderate ideas from interacting with moderate people. Not extremist ideas from interacting with extremist. Context is key...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 09:22 PM
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Promiscuity? How does it negatively effect a society or individual?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 09:19 PM
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Everything is going to effect everyone somehow, like the butterfly effect. But ultimately, the fact that MGTOW men have given up on women does not effect me. Similarly, if I have sex everyday forever, it would almost only effect me and my partner. General promiscuity or celibacy does not affect society on a whole as long as individuals have the freedom to choose, and every encounter is safe and consenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 09:17 PM
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Fascism is what Hitler was. Not being racist/ sexist/ violent would be.... literally the opposite... haha
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 09:11 PM
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I doubt there have been any studies done, but practice makes perfect! Plus, I remember my first time... And I'm much better now ha. I can't really think of any scenario or reasoning as to why someone whose never had sex before would be objectively better than someone experienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 09:08 PM
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Uh yeah... That kind of proves my point... Did you not see his edit? He apologized for being distasteful, says Muslims are not all bad and it is bigoted to think so. I guess he got a lot of flak, weird, it's almost like majority rules and the minority has to assimilate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 08:36 PM
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Of course... Male victims can be raped by female victims without being penetrated. If rape has to have penetration, men literally could not be raped by women. The definition of rape can't include penetration or male victims and female perpetrators could never be recognized.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 08:33 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/53tu03/women_entitled_to_end_pregnancy_regardless_of/ It doesn't look too bad to me! Even a couple comments calling out people for shaming prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 07:50 PM
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This is the only answer this thread needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 07:29 PM
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I have never even heard of that woman so I think we are good. There are always going to be crazies, but as long as the legal system and main stream society accepts that rape can happen without penetration, that's the best we can hope for.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 07:28 PM
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But now when those comments are posted, they are usually downvoted heavily by the rest of the population if the sub is big enough
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 07:17 PM
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I love Jessica valenti! I'm sure she had nothing to do with your comment being blocked, she probably didn't even see it. I'm not sure why you don't like her, she's awesome. It looks like you kind of went on a rant, but yeah trust me, I wish more people recognized that not all rape is penetration. Hopefully feminism can make that definition more legitimate and be inclusive to male victims!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:29 PM
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I am very sorry that happened to you. I agree that equal actions to protect both genders need to be out there. I know AOC varies by country, but in the US you can't have sex with anyone under 18 if you are over 18 in any state. Some states have exceptions if you are within 3 years. Of course, any depiction of a child naked is child porn. I know feminists really pushed to change the definition of rape in the US so that it didn't involve "penetration". This made it so that men could also be raped …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:10 PM
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I didn't say rape, I said sexual harassment and coercion. I don't know of any definition of rape where men don't need to consent... By definition, consensual sex needs consent from all parties. But I would say any advice that encourages rape, (like the classic red pill advice to get with young teens), sexual harassment, coercion, etc. should get users banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 03:59 PM
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I mean, you'll never see a real red piller in real life so its kind of moot. Plus most red pillers won't get married/stay red pill in marriage. 95% of Western marriage proposals are done this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 03:51 PM
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It's funny how literally getting down on your knees, presenting a woman with expensive jewelry, and asking her to do something for you is still considered "a gatekeeper" by red pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 02:52 PM
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I agree. I wouldn't ban the whole sub but I would ban users who are exceptionally hateful against entire groups (i.e. Women are all worthless, Muslims/blacks are all terrible) or who is promoting crimes such as sexual harassment or coercion into sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 02:37 PM
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I mean... Most feminists are college educated... Just saying. Liberals are more way likely to be educated than conservatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 11:24 AM
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I agree. Then we would see that there aren't many gendered traits at all! When I was a camp counselor we gave the young girls a "no gossiping, no cliques" talk the very first day. Well, then the boys cabin started having problems with people being left out and talked about. If we would have just realized all 12-14 year olds are assholes, we could have saved everyone a lot of tears and problems. There are very very few innate gender differences and I wish teachers emphasized that in school more o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 11:21 AM
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I think loneliness is definitely a huge risk factor for suicide. But I don't think incels are necessarily the ones committing suicide. Incel men make up like what, 2% of men? Let's just say 5%. I don't think the ones that commit suicide greatly impact the general suicide numbers. I also wouldn't say "no one cares" about men's mental health. There are male clinics, homeless shelters specifically for men, spokes people bringing attention to the issue, etc. Its pretty rude to tell them what they do…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 11:16 AM
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I have provided arguments wtf lol. Rock Stars don't fuck girls way below them. Movie stars don't fuck girls below them. No one does. Everyone fucks and dates within 2 points. Do you have any evidence of a man fucking a woman more than 2 points beneath his rating?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 12:58 AM
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I'm just saying, those rock stars were not fucking women several points below them. If anything, they were fucking women above them by a couple points. 10s fuck/marry 10s. 4s fuck/marry 4s. There's very few exceptions. The top 10% of men are not taking the 6s, he might dip into the 8s.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 12:32 AM
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I am not disagreeing with you. I am simply explaining why women choose different methods than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 11:46 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean by that.... If you aren't attractive, 99/100 you don't fuck attractive people. 10s stay with 10s. If anything, those rock stars fucked women out of their league who just wanted a story to tell. They definitely didn't chase after women who were below their rating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 11:41 PM
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They want to look peaceful, beautiful (women will often do their make up), and have no clean up for whoever finds them. Women also tend to use more dramatic methods, like jumping off a bridge, which are also less likely to result in death.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 11:37 PM
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Rock stars are generally not attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 11:34 PM
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Do you ever notice how the hottest men, like Channing Tatum or David beckham don't date the average girls that work at Starbucks? Or even the 9s that populate LA and NYC. They strictly date super models. Everyone is going to fuck the hottest people they can. 10s might fuck 8s sometimes, but they definitely aren't chasing 6s ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 11:03 PM
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Women don't attempt suicide as a way to get attention. They attempt suicide in ways that are more considerate to whoever finds them. So instead of blowing their brains out all over the wall, they take pills or slit their wrists in a bathtub. Those ways are easier to reverse than a gunshot wound.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 09:41 PM
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But what does that have to do with incels? Are most suicides from incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 09:34 PM
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If men are entitled to sex, women are entitled to your bank accounts. This whole argument is dumb, women made incredible contributions to the world, including raising 98% of the population and ensuring they survived long enough to make their great contributions...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 09:14 PM
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Women also have to earn sex though.... If she wants to fuck a 10 she has to be a 10 too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 09:12 PM
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Like someone else said, the odds of running into a red piller irl are incredibly low. I'm in college so most guys lift. I would be ridiculous to avoid them all just I case I possibly ran into someone who used trp. I'm assuming I would be able to tell from their personality of they felt superior to women, so I would probably just not hang out with them. Not hard! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:46 PM
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I agree, he's a man child! But he's also very masculine... So that's all I'm saying. You can be masculine and respected, but you can also be masculine and not respected. And you can be feminine and respected. So being respected or accomplished aren't really masculine traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:29 PM
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I'm in Texas too, I thought you weren't from the US? No, a smelly construction worker is not accomplished, but he is manly. Most menial physical labor jobs are not respected, but they are masculine. Many men are masculine and cowardly. Think of Jonny Manzel for instance, since you're from Texas. He used drugs, beat his girlfriend, and threw away a million dollar career. He is masculine af, but he's a spoiled, cowardly brat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:20 PM
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That's what in saying. You're assuming all tumblrinas don't have science degrees and are dumb. That's not true at all, as I am living proof of.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:16 PM
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I'm definitely an SJW. And I use tumblr. So....
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:04 PM
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Yeah it's just someone who uses tumblr. So maybe you're inaccurately stereotyping all tumblrinas as dumb women with worthless degrees?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:01 PM
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I'm a tumblrina in that I have a tumblr account I regularly use. What else is a tumblrina?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:57 PM
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Oh not in America. Men can be masculine without being accomplished or respected. Like villains in movies are usually very masculine and dark, but are not respected and are usually very cowardly. You can be masculine and a coward just as easily as you can be masculine and respected.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:38 PM
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I mean... There's no "theory"... Being accomplished and respected does not separate men from women. It is not associated with the male gender anymore then the female gender. It does not match the definition of masculine...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:16 PM
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But women have to be "masculine" to be accomplished and respected? I'm from the US and that isn't how the term "masculine" is used at all. Masculine is used to define traits specific to men. Many men are not accomplished and respected. Many women are accomplished and respected even in feminine circles. Being accomplished and respected has nothing to do with being male, so these things are considered "masculine" traits. It doesn't separate men from women and it isn't something most men identify w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 06:57 PM
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But those things are not inherently masculine. Many women also meet those standards. Would you call Mother Teresa masculine for being accomplished and respected?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 06:38 PM
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