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| 2 | Use this response if others try to shame you for dating a younger womanI prefer the "you jelly?" response | /r/seduction | 01/06/22 07:44 PM |
| 1 | Just did my first ever cold approach!also taught me that I’m going to need social media (presence) ... No ... and build rapport first before asking for her number Definitely. It also helps having a purpose. E.g. first make plans for a date, and then ask for her number (as a tool to coordinate the date further, and not just for maybe texting her later) The craziest part of this cold approach was the sense of confidence it gave me after doing it ... Yes! Capitalize on that. You should ride that wave and approach next girl right then … | /r/seduction | 24/05/22 07:46 AM |
| 3 | I’m a 24 year old Virgin and I don’t really find her attractive, but should I have sex to get it over with ?If you pass up on sex because you're not attracted to a girl you're an idiot and a chump. This is how a 24-year-old virgin becomes a 25-year-old and beyond virgin. I haven't heard greater words of wisdom. I wish I wasn't a pussy who over-analised everything back in my 20-somethings | /r/seduction | 24/05/22 06:49 AM |
| 1 | I’m a 24 year old Virgin and I don’t really find her attractive, but should I have sex to get it over with ?Hey man. Don't assume anything. That's what girls do. They overanalyse every thing the guy does or says and, within few days, they are already thinking about the color of their wedding dress, despite not having gotten to even to the first date. You don't know if she is looking for a relationship. You don't know if she is looking for a relationship with you. You don't know if she'll still want a relationship with you after sex. I plead guilty for having sex out of desperation with girls I don't f… | /r/seduction | 24/05/22 06:47 AM |
| 7 | I suffer from severe depression. I literally do nothing most days but sleep and scroll YouTube, twitter, Reddit, etc... I don't have anything interesting in my life currently to the point that I contemplate suicide almost weekly but somehow I easily get women.Hey man. That's good for you and I'm really happy for you (even though you don't sound too happy for yourself). People are literally working their asses off to even get one woman, and then she turns out to be a low-value girl anyway. And they get frustrated even more. IMHO that's the norm. I see 2 issues with your post: first, it's not really helpful or insightful. You got that one thing going for you, and that's awsome, many would be envious. But you are not giving any insights on how. So, it's… | /r/seduction | 23/05/22 07:39 AM |
| 1 | Thoughts on No More Mr Nice GuyI felt exactly the same. The book is intended for people who are doormats. In other words, for people who are "pathologically nice" (if that's even a thing). Unfortunately, There are a lot of such guys out there, and the numbers are bound to rise in the next years for sure. But that's still a small percentage of all the "nice" people, where the book does not apply or applies very little. | /r/seduction | 23/05/22 07:18 AM |
| 2 | Thoughts on No More Mr Nice GuyUnfortunatelly it applies to a large number of guys out there. If it applies to you, it's quite radical and because of that, it WILL be difficult to digest and apply because it requires a pretty significant "reality-shift" from your part. If it does not apply to you, it's bullshit. | /r/seduction | 23/05/22 06:50 AM |
| 5 | Increase your attractiveness and your life will be easierLearning and applying all this material or living a more fulfilling life and getting laid without really putting effort into it? NO, no, no, NO! please for the love of God, don't perpetuate this kind of bullshit. Nobody gives a shit if you are successful if they don't know you. I can be alpha and shredded and reek masculinity from 50 meters, but if I don't ever leave the house, what's the point? And even if I go out to the bar for a drink, no girl is going to approach me if I sit alone in the co… | /r/seduction | 20/05/22 06:36 PM |
| 3 | Should I keep faking my personality or go back to my old selfassumed that girls don't care if you are fun to be around, but only care about looks changed looks. Took showers. Bought cloths still no girls Turns out initial assumption was wrong... Who would have thought! | /r/seduction | 20/05/22 11:06 AM |
| 1 | Should I keep faking my personality or go back to my old selfWhat do you mean by "keep faking your personality"? You mean start being obese and a clown again? You nuts? Ditch the ""red-pill tactics"". Keep the rest. Good work getting more fit! It will definitely help you in both seduction, but overall health in general and later in life too. My recommendation is focus being more social now. Not neccessarily a "clown", but being cool and making friends is super-important! Attraction almost equals social value! Meet and connect with more people and girls in… | /r/seduction | 20/05/22 11:04 AM |
| 1 | Should I sleep with girls on the first dateIs having my sex on the first date ruining my changes of finding something long term? Short answer: No Long answer: it maybe has to do with what type of girls you sleep with. Are those girls really LTR material who get so thrilled and attracted to you so much that they choose to sleep with you on the first date? Or are they girls looking exactly for one-night-stands? If they are the first kind, no, it does not ruin your chance. In fact, it's even better. If they are the second, you never had a c… | /r/seduction | 19/05/22 06:32 PM |
| 1 | why am I successful in online dating but can't get dates when approaching girls in person?how many girls you "swipe" per day, either left or right? how many girls you approach per day? Could be a numbers problem. Also note that girls on dating apps are there exactly for sexual encounters. On the other hand, not all girls on grocery stores are available or interested. That would further lower the statistical probability of being interested (getting their number isn't too important). Also, could be your vibe. | /r/seduction | 19/05/22 06:27 PM |
| 1 | Can someone give me actual legit advices that really work?huh? This is a blanket question. What is it you want to achieve? One-night stands? Life-long relationships? Improve your social skills? Different questions will get you different answers. Also, of course there are contradicting advice. The topic is broad and people come from different experiences and backgrounds. Of course there is no one-fits-all advice, and it shouldn't be. It's as broad as asking what is the real advice that you can actually use in order to best market a product, or to seal a… | /r/seduction | 19/05/22 06:22 PM |
| 1 | Can someone give me actual legit advices that really work?Sure, PM me and for 199.99$ I'll take you to a bootcamp where you will learn what and how to say stuff to get anyone in bed. no-bullshit and unfiltered content. | /r/seduction | 19/05/22 06:12 PM |
| 15 | Why do some cultures don’t accept the male partner being the older one in the couple?Man... Every time the age gap thing comes up (and it comes up too often nowadays, considering that we are living in the most inclusive and open-minded era), it always should boil down to only 2 things: You are not doing anything illegal Both parties are consenting adults Really. That's it. Those are the only 2 things that should concern you and that actually matter. Everything else is personal opinion. | /r/seduction | 15/05/22 08:19 PM |
| 1 | I'm good looking, funny, respectful, have a good job, have hobbies, talk to plenty of women. then why can't I even hook up with one woman?From the (plenty) women you talk to, how many do you sexually like? I don't mean as a potential partner, or anything deep. Let's say, how many would you hook up with? From those women you'd hook-up, how many of them did you flirt with (i.e. explicitly or implicitly let them know that you like them sexually)? How many did you ask out? How many did you end up going out with? If you did manage to go out with any woman, were you any sexual at all during the date or was it like you were friends going… | /r/seduction | 12/05/22 09:55 PM |
| 2 | How Being "Non-Needy" Is Killing Your Text GameBUT SHE HAS TO FUCKING LIKE YOU FIRST... vs Think of these 2 scenario's... If a woman walked into your work once a week for whatever reason. And she just said "Hi", each time. Or if she came in, you guys had a great conversation. Awesome laughs, and looked forward to seeing each other again... That's contradictory. If she fucking likes you anyway, she's gonna accept if you ask her out (if you ask her tactfully and in a good vibe). These 2 scenarios only play a role in your own head, and how "eas… | /r/seduction | 12/05/22 12:29 PM |
| 7 | Stop looking for sex and you'll get itIf you are good-looking, who cares how much you've "worked on yourself"? Most girls who'd want you to fuck them, they'd still want you to fuck them either you were a broke artist, a rich attorney, or an entrepreneur engineer. All these are simply compensations | /r/seduction | 12/05/22 07:27 AM |
| 2 | Stop looking for sex and you'll get itThe only thing I agree with in this post is that you are not smart enough. Stop confusing "shady pickup tactics" with the expression of genuine interest and actively pursuing your goals (be it sexual relationship, or something else). | /r/seduction | 12/05/22 07:24 AM |
| 4 | Any guys who get zero matches but have success in real life?I am no "player" by any scale, but I do get some success from real-life approaches. In Tinder and other dating apps however I have absolutely zero results (I've even tried in 3 different countries besides my home country). Some people can get action, but you need to reach a specific level of "score" to even begin getting something (score = genetics, body type, face, style, photo quality, bio, story behind each photo, etc.). Essentially it needs considerable effort (considerably more than most pe… | /r/seduction | 11/05/22 01:48 PM |
| 3 | Do you keep chasing the girl whose always busy?3 times is the charm. If you propose something once and she denies cause she's busy, leave it, it happens. Contact her again a week or so later to suggest something else. If she denies again, and you really like this girl, you can try a 3rd time, again a week or so later. But if she denies the 3rd one, move on, even if she is a Victoria Secret model. | /r/seduction | 10/05/22 09:15 PM |
| 5 | Reminder that girls won't flock around you no matter how much work you put on yourself. You have to take action precisely to meet and flirt with girls in order to have "abundance".This made me smile! Yes I completely agree. | /r/seduction | 10/05/22 06:41 AM |
| 1 | Will having a lot of sex make me happier?If currently you aren't having a lot of sex and you want to have a lot of sex, then, yes. | /r/seduction | 10/05/22 06:39 AM |
| 1 | Reminder that girls won't flock around you no matter how much work you put on yourself. You have to take action precisely to meet and flirt with girls in order to have "abundance".Cool. What is your plan then? Say you do get from job A to job B in a few months. Then what? | /r/seduction | 10/05/22 06:34 AM |
| 1 | Reminder that girls won't flock around you no matter how much work you put on yourself. You have to take action precisely to meet and flirt with girls in order to have "abundance".Yes, you are correct. You sound like you are already have a bleak image of the current situation and for what the future holds. I could go ahead and challenge each of your points, though I am not sure it's worth it. I simply wished I could pull you out of the self-loathing pit you've fallen, because you do sound like a guy with above average perception and intelligence and you should be challenging these points yourself. | /r/seduction | 10/05/22 06:15 AM |
| 2 | Reminder that girls won't flock around you no matter how much work you put on yourself. You have to take action precisely to meet and flirt with girls in order to have "abundance".You sound like someone who has things going quite well for him in that department. You get to have a bunch of new girls in your social circle per week (which is far better than the average white-collar guy), and you are also flirting with them and getting above average hook-rate. Also, grooming, fashion, physique, etc. ARE things you improve in order to be more attractive. Honestly, I believe that we are on exactly the same page here. I never said that the answer to everything is to cold-approac… | /r/seduction | 10/05/22 06:06 AM |
| 3 | Reminder that girls won't flock around you no matter how much work you put on yourself. You have to take action precisely to meet and flirt with girls in order to have "abundance".I've worked with male self-improvemnt industry for a bit. I'd say that, realistically, only the pros can get about 5%-10% hook rate with new girls. And, mind you, I'm saying "hook" which means initial interest/investment which is not equal to relationship or sex yet. And consider that we are talking about people who invest all their life (even professionally) into that. I'm not saying you are wrong, but even if you do meet so many girls, are you able to talk to them? To spark their interest? To … | /r/seduction | 10/05/22 05:52 AM |
| 5 | Reminder that girls won't flock around you no matter how much work you put on yourself. You have to take action precisely to meet and flirt with girls in order to have "abundance".Even if you get a girl, she will eventually dump you for someone higher up in the hierarchy This is absolutely no reason to not try at all! Do flirt, get the girl, hone your skills, get to experience intimacy, have some sexual release. If she dumps you, so be it ("She's never yours. It's just your turn" after all). You'll also get to experience breakup and this will mature emotionally (it's definitely not an easy process to go through). Then, you will be more experienced in how to deal with the … | /r/seduction | 10/05/22 05:36 AM |
| 6 | Reminder that girls won't flock around you no matter how much work you put on yourself. You have to take action precisely to meet and flirt with girls in order to have "abundance".Do you think it's a realistic goal to become a celebrity in order to get girls for most guys here? | /r/seduction | 10/05/22 05:29 AM |
| 4 | Reminder that girls won't flock around you no matter how much work you put on yourself. You have to take action precisely to meet and flirt with girls in order to have "abundance".Do you think this would work for most guys here? Just loose a few pounds, and go sit alone at the bar for 4-5 times? | /r/seduction | 10/05/22 05:27 AM |
| 6 | Reminder that girls won't flock around you no matter how much work you put on yourself. You have to take action precisely to meet and flirt with girls in order to have "abundance".They may get "hooked", but it's a big difference from hooking a girl's interest, to deciding to have sex with you or be your GF. This may only work in only one situation: You are the top-10% of looks and your goal is to have as many one-night-stands as possible (where the girl just wants you to shut up and fuck her). As for the other attributes, I'd say that in order to effectively pull girls with status or wealth alone, but without game, you'd have to be the top-1%, like famous-wealthy or somet… | /r/seduction | 10/05/22 05:25 AM |
| 7 | Reminder that girls won't flock around you no matter how much work you put on yourself. You have to take action precisely to meet and flirt with girls in order to have "abundance".Yes, Exactly! It's perpetuated because it the "easy" thing to do and it will be acceptable by most people. I'd go as far to say it also benefits girls (only some and in short-term), and also the modern society as it is far better (from economical and stability perspective) to have docile men who focus on generating capital/taxes and don't harass/bother girls, while suppressing their sexual urges or go emotionally numb with hookers and porn (the perfect workers. 1984 anyone?) | /r/seduction | 10/05/22 05:21 AM |
| 7 | The Discourse around men's height is inaccurate and social media is preying upon your insecuritiesThe girls you meet in real life will give you much better reciprocation, the same girl might not right swipe on an app but she will be very interested in real life. I second that. I've had a girl beg me to kiss her who had earlier admitted that she considers me unattractive and short (Im 5'6" btw). I imagine she would have never swiped right on me, had she met me on tinder | /r/seduction | 07/05/22 10:58 PM |
| 2 | Being asked if I am a virgin. Honesty, or play on the question? 🤔Sorry, I meant a 27yo male virgin is a turn-off. Fixed it. | /r/seduction | 06/05/22 10:11 AM |
| 3 | Just do not think its worth it anymoreFrom what you write, I get the feeling that you don't have a clear goal/purpose regarding your relationships. You may had before, but not any more (e.g. due to maturing). You are going out and honing your skills, you got relationships and fuck-buddies, and that's great. Also you say that "I believe a lot of dudes should do it as it teaches them a lot about women frame control, etc." in which I agree completely. Some people seek to get out of being constantly friend-zoned, some seek to become mor… | /r/seduction | 06/05/22 10:07 AM |
| 3 | Being asked if I am a virgin. Honesty, or play on the question? 🤔Honestly, being a 27yo male virgin regardless of background, is a huge turn-off, no matter what she says. I'd tell her the truth. Your chances are better that way. However, she doesn't need to know that you are a player. But why is it wrong to have, say, a failed past relationship? You are not very young anyway. Also, do you explicitly know if she is looking for a virgin as well? If I was a 28yo woman, I'd probably be looking exactly for someone more experienced than me to start a *sexual* relat… | /r/seduction | 06/05/22 09:46 AM |
| 1 | What are some reliable ways of assessing how attracted they are and whether you have a green light to escalate?the number 1 dead giveaway is when you ask them out and they say yes. | /r/seduction | 05/05/22 06:43 PM |
| 1 | In your experience what are the things that you did that made girls chase youI chased other women. This didn't sit well with some girls I "kinda had something with", so they took a more "active" role :) | /r/seduction | 03/05/22 07:19 AM |
| 1 | Cold approach "rejections" can actually be a win-win for both partiesEven if it was a lose/lose, I loose more if I don't approach at all | /r/seduction | 02/05/22 07:29 AM |
| 2 | Girls disappearing after sexyeah, I know it's hard to see past a bad occasion. I'm a third-party and I didn't live what you lived through and thus I am not impacted by it. I guess this is both good and bad. It sounds like that with the women you slept without sex, there was a different issue (probably repressed sexuality). It would seem that you managed to get over that however! Hang in there pal. You are doing good | /r/seduction | 01/05/22 12:29 PM |
| 2 | Girls disappearing after sexI take it that this happened one (1) time. This is not statistically significant to try to find mistakes in that particular interaction. If you keep getting this pattern, sure, try to explore and improve what you can. But right now, there is no reason to panic and stress over this particular occasion. Keep an open mind and focus on your mistakes regardless of the outcome. Are you happy with how you handled the interaction up to sex? Would you have rushed to find mistakes if she had texted you ba… | /r/seduction | 01/05/22 11:16 AM |
| 1 | a drug that is easily accessible or easily prescribed that can help me socialize?I've seen cocaine do miracles even for the most socially awkward guys. Though it's not easily accessible (at least not where I live), and pretty addicting. Maybe there are better options such as anti-depressants or anti-ADHD drugs. I'd say alcohol and weed does help with anxiety, but for some people (me included), really makes them sleepy rather than confident/extroverted | /r/seduction | 01/05/22 09:25 AM |
| 2 | Girls disappearing after sexDon't take it personally OP. She did you a favor. It wouldn't have worked anyway. She was in just for the hookup. No worries. Girls experience that all the time. Rinse and repeat. p.s. I'd personally wouldn't go into "I am not looking for hookups" right from the start. Keep it cool and see how it plays out with the next one. | /r/seduction | 01/05/22 09:07 AM |
| 2 | Will Lack of Sex Ruin My (M25) Relationship With My Girlfriend (F27)?Sexual satisfaction and compatibility of both partners is of paramount importance in a sexual relationship (otherwise you are just friends or housemates). Before moving on (which I would highly recommend at this point), It would be worth voicing your concerns to your GF. I don't mean in the form of nagging or being butthurt when she refuses sex. I mean, pick a calm moment and sit down with her, and express your concern clearly. Be clear with what you expect as outcome both from her and also for … | /r/seduction | 29/04/22 02:27 PM |
| 4 | FELLAS I NEED HELP!Hey mate, I don't think you should be treating her any differently. What would you do if she wasn't rich, or you didn't know if she's rich or not? Do exactly that. If she complains for anything, just keep your cool and don't let yourself fall into her frame. Having said that, and provided you are not going for a dinner date nor any too fancy cafe (I hope you aren't), insist on pay for her, but suggest that next time, the drinks are on her (I'd make it a half-joke to ask her to take you to one of… | /r/seduction | 29/04/22 02:18 PM |
| 6 | DAE hate dating within the Indian community DISCUSSIONOP, Is this observation specifically within India or are you (also) talking about Indians abroad? | /r/seduction | 28/04/22 04:54 PM |
| 2 | A girl started repeatedly hip bumping me. Is that considered a sexual move?I came here to say that! 😅 | /r/seduction | 28/04/22 03:09 PM |
| 1 | Easy seductionbasically a great life so you are happy The "greatest" your life is, the harder it is. You should seek to find happiness in hardship rather than problem-free life. That's what truly makes you happy. According to seduction theory, unless you have those, you shouldn't even approach women WHO TF SAYS THAT? That is simply not true. I've never come across any such theory. Stop perpetuating this bullshit. Unless you have serious undealt health or mental issues which prevent you from functioning in you… | /r/seduction | 28/04/22 09:41 AM |
| 5 | Paying for sex, am I a loser?If you think yourself a looser, then what does the 50yo happily married with 3 children paying for some escort is? | /r/seduction | 26/04/22 09:56 AM |
| 7 | is it not possible to pick up women if i don't drink alcohol?I rarely drink alcohol when I go out. Maybe I'll get some wine and have just a couple of sips and leave the rest, but otherwise I'll opt for a sugar-free soda, or fizzy water. Most of the times I'm either driving or on a diet which prevents alcohol In my experience, girls are almost never question that, and if they do, I simply tell them the truth. Noone has weirded-out ever. Also, no, drinking alcohol is not an important step in "wooing" her. In fact, for some people (including myself), it hind… | /r/seduction | 26/04/22 08:18 AM |
| 1 | This sub is delusional.Depends. Can't really say I "lowered" my standards. I simply went out and talked to anyone I found at least mildly attractive. I never had sex with anyone I wasn't attracted to. But instead of obsessing over one particular girl (oneitis), I was talking to, like, a dozen new girls per week. Though I still didn't have sex with my "crush". I don't know if that counts as lowering my standards | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 06:46 PM |
| 0 | This sub is delusional.Dude. Read my posts again. The only one in this thread who is delusional is yourself to be making such assumptions. Have a nice day. | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 05:49 PM |
| 2 | This sub is delusional.that's right: "were" | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 05:35 PM |
| 2 | This sub is delusional.Check my posts and you'll see | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 05:30 PM |
| 2 | This sub is delusional.I'm literally the counter example of what you write | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 05:23 PM |
| 3 | This sub is delusional.... And that kids is a pristine exhibit of a "Homo Black-Pillus AFCicus", found almost untouched in the dark corners of Reddit. | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 04:36 PM |
| 1 | Taking girls on expensive dinner datesThere is absolutely nothing wrong in going on a date to a fancy restaurant. Instead of going by yourself, the company of a cute girl would be far better (especially if she is also into fine dining). However, make it clear that you are splitting the bill. I'd probably think about paying for her if she was my wife/LTR and I could easily afford it. Otherwise, stick to date you can both afford. | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 02:06 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong to ask out every attractive girl I see / interact with?Can you give few examples of "flirt but not ask out" and "green light to make a move" please? | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 08:17 AM |
| 1 | Is it wrong to ask out every attractive girl I see / interact with?Somehow, I thought that post would be about flirting with, like, 20 girls per day. (Tip: still nothing wrong with it) On other note: OP, if you meet one attractive girl per month, maybe you should be going out more. I mean more consistently. You got the vibe. Start approaching more and more people. It is a numbers game after all | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 08:04 AM |
| 2 | Is it wrong to ask out every attractive girl I see / interact with?Correct. Everyone knows that people who serve other people are not allowed to date. | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 07:59 AM |
| 2 | dancing and makeup?There is no known correlation between the amount of make-up, the way you dance, and the number of times you are get hit on. Having said that, it's always best to match the vibe of the venue. If you are overdressed or over-painted for the occasion, maybe will put people off. Same with dancing. Observe how others are dancing. Yes, do feel free to be loose and move your body of course, but careful not to end up as the party clown. Don't feel bad however about it. This is a trial-and-error skill whi… | /r/seduction | 24/04/22 03:35 PM |
| 153 | What is your opinion on the phrase: "She is not yours, its just your turn"Also makes you detached from the outcome. Your mindset should be that you accept the fact that any day your girl may leave and that you are OK with that. Not pleasant, but you can deal with it. Ironocally, this makes you more attractive and less likely for the girl to leave | /r/seduction | 23/04/22 07:07 PM |
| 1 | What is your opinion on the phrase: "She is not yours, its just your turn"eventually some guy will take my girl off of me. Or you will take some other guy's girl | /r/seduction | 23/04/22 07:04 PM |
| 1 | How do you ask for consent?Hulk smash... ? | /r/seduction | 23/04/22 01:31 PM |
| 1 | How do you ask for consent?"Hey, because I really like you, let's make a deal right now. If at any point you don't feel comfortable, for absolutely any reason at all, please say so, and we will stop whatever we are doing. Deal?" | /r/seduction | 23/04/22 01:29 PM |
| 5 | How to handle this"np. I guess that was for someone else" | /r/seduction | 22/04/22 09:30 PM |
| 1 | Is it a good idea to send this text?If you have already set up some day to see the 1st girl (Sunday), just ask for confirmation a couple of days before. Otherwise, tell her when you will be back and suggest a couple of dates to meet up. Do not mention the other girl. If you still want to mention the second girl (in order imply pre-selection), you can bring it up as a funny story when you do meet up, like "hey, you won't believe what happened to me last week, that girl I hardly knew asked me to.... blah blah" | /r/seduction | 22/04/22 09:12 PM |
| 2 | Is it a good idea to send this text?way too early to imply exclusivity man | /r/seduction | 22/04/22 09:07 PM |
| 2 | Is it a good idea to send this text?IMHO, no. It can be taken as a playful tease but also as rude or self-absorbed, so I think it's more risk than merit. Also the dates do not make sense. If you go out with her on Sunday, how does it prevents you from going out with someone else on Monday? | /r/seduction | 22/04/22 09:05 PM |
| 1 | Advice (simple and blatant as possible please)Best idea: Take a wing/friend with you and let him observe you and join the convo. Then discuss and let him point out what he thinks you are doing wrong. About the skin color: it's a self-limiting belief. And approach more in general. One night at a club is nothing. It could take months of going out consistently to land some dates and ultimately, sex. | /r/seduction | 21/04/22 10:02 AM |
| 1 | What to do when a girl plays hard to get?She's seeing somebody else as well. Don't stress over it. Go out and game other girls. If/When she feels like fuck you, you'll know, but don't get hung over that particular girl | /r/seduction | 21/04/22 07:44 AM |
| 16 | Zero luck on dating apps - better in real life?If you are below, say 8/10, in photos, dating apps are garbage in my opinion. They are going to crush your confidence and self-image. | /r/seduction | 20/04/22 08:48 PM |
| 6 | how come most people get pretty girlfriends without knowing anything about "game" or all the psychological stuff, just being a random joe? Is game for hookups or low-value men only?devito has 3 children, so I guess there are at least some women who want to fuck him. And they want to fuck him not for his humour alone per se, but because he is so successful thanks to his humour. If he wasn't successful like that, maybe he would have been a virgin. | /r/seduction | 20/04/22 01:20 PM |
| 19 | how come most people get pretty girlfriends without knowing anything about "game" or all the psychological stuff, just being a random joe? Is game for hookups or low-value men only?I was listening to a famous local stand-up comedian guy and he said something that resonated with me: "Well, I'm 5'5" and balding, so I had to find another way (from looks) to get girls. I had noticed that when I told jokes, everybody laughed, even the hottest girls. So I kept developing that, and here I am" | /r/seduction | 20/04/22 09:24 AM |
| 48 | So self improvement is preached here. But at what point are you good enough?at what point are you good enough? Right now. Yes, you read that right: Right now you are good enough to start approaching and working on your social and flirting skills. Self-improvement is something you do in-parallel with game, and not before that. In fact, improving your social and flirting skills is part of self-improvement | /r/seduction | 19/04/22 02:36 PM |
| 6 | Do you worry that a girl you approach might be too young?ouch. Bitches gonna bitch, aren't they? IMHO that's an outlier response and definitely not the norm. Most people would at least be curious. However... tip for next time: be louder. Don't try to catch her eye, but raise your voice. Ideally, you should approach from the front and not her back, but since she actively turned away, you should be catching her attention in another way. Either say "HEY" louder, or tap her shoulder or something. Imagine what would you do if she had just dropped her walle… | /r/seduction | 19/04/22 02:32 PM |
| 1 | Broke up after many years and I have no desire to date new womenWhat is it you want exactly? To date or not to date? You say you are super-shy to approach, but what's the point if you have no desire to dating them in the first place? It would be a win-win for me: no approach = no date I don't think you should force yourself to do anything you don't want to. If you wanted to but you were unable to do so, then yes, forcing yourself nonethess is one way to overcome the (mental) obstacles. But if you have no desire, I see little point. Better invest your time an… | /r/seduction | 19/04/22 12:09 PM |
| 3 | Do you worry that a girl you approach might be too young?what did she say? Did she see you approaching and turned her back? Or you spoke first and then turned her back? | /r/seduction | 19/04/22 07:18 AM |
| 11 | Do you worry that a girl you approach might be too young?do you think it’s better just not to approach? The things people tell themselves to avoid approaching... | /r/seduction | 19/04/22 07:17 AM |
| 7 | How do you guys deal with womens fuckery?I don't say that it's 100% of what happened, but if I had to guess, I'd say that she was kinda checking you out, but when you went up to talk to her, you somehow messed the image she had in her brain or your game ruined her mood. If she reached a point to ask you to "leave her alone", it probably means that you ended up too pushy/needy. Rinse and reapeat. Alter your approach a bit, see what works best. If you have used this approach with success in the past, maybe she was a fluke. Disregard | /r/seduction | 18/04/22 04:58 PM |
| 9 | How to break the touching barrier with a girl without looking like a pervert?I agree. Every time you meet up with a girl you like, the only appropriate greeting is an slap on the ass. Save high-fives for your friends and the uglies /s | /r/seduction | 18/04/22 08:47 AM |
| 2 | I became her "gay friend", now what?You can do nothing. You have already fucked up enough. Move on and invest your time and mental energy in girls where you approach sexually and not as a nice guy friend | /r/seduction | 17/04/22 06:32 AM |
| 1 | The reason why girls who want 6ft/6fig/6pac men piss me off and why I personally think it means you're a low quality women.Now I'd never e er used a stupid dating app Your opinion on something you have absolutely no experience or knowledge in is crucial? explain how exactly. Because the attention women get on dating apps was what my comment was mainly about. I do respect your opinion and it is indeed largely true, but it is unrelated to the comment, so I feel that "crucial" is an over-exaggeration. Unless you are only in for virtue-signalling, so it makes perfect sense | /r/seduction | 16/04/22 07:29 PM |
| 1 | The reason why girls who want 6ft/6fig/6pac men piss me off and why I personally think it means you're a low quality women.Cool for you. I didn't blame you specifically for anything. But if I may ask... what are you doing on r/seduction ? | /r/seduction | 16/04/22 02:54 PM |
| 1 | how the hell can i finally get a girlfriend?If she likes you equally, she will accept. If not, she will decline and you will have your answer. Think of it this way: flip it around: If a girl you liked came up to you and asked you out, would you object? | /r/seduction | 16/04/22 02:29 PM |
| 1 | The reason why girls who want 6ft/6fig/6pac men piss me off and why I personally think it means you're a low quality women.mate.... I don't know if you are trolling or not, or simply been living under a rock. In dating apps if you are an average woman will get 100s of messages/likes per day. If you are an average man will probably get 2-3 per day and that's on a good day. If you don't believe me, try creating a fake guy profile on Tinder and try to get matches. | /r/seduction | 16/04/22 02:28 PM |
| 2 | how the hell can i finally get a girlfriend?How do i know she likes me? You ask her out | /r/seduction | 16/04/22 07:13 AM |
| 24 | After years of dating I am convinced that women are the most attracted to men who are so full of themselves, arrogant & rude who can show them their place.butthurt OP got dumped it seems. Don't worry mate. We've all been there. No reason to be spiteful. What you say isn't wrong though. You are essentially describing the attraction triggers in a female mind. Yes, people get bored at some point, who would have thought. Yes, girls get attracted to masculine "Warlord" traits, that's what brings up those tingling feelings and make them wet. IMHO, girls need both: the arrogant "Warlord" and the supportive "doormat". the former for nailing her and the la… | /r/seduction | 16/04/22 07:06 AM |
| 2 | girls keep rejecting me at the clubthese are rookie numbers | /r/seduction | 16/04/22 06:59 AM |
| 18 | The reason why girls who want 6ft/6fig/6pac men piss me off and why I personally think it means you're a low quality women.It's not her fault mate. It's us guys who give her attention. There is a profound over-supply of dick. And it's not endemic to the US for sure, it's everywhere. She can dress-up, post a couple of pics on Tinder, and BOOM, 100 likes within the first hour. Heck, I'd sure be boasting how I want a big-ass big-tits girl all the time and that no-one is Victoria-Secret-model-enough for me if I had 100s of likes per day on social/dating apps. | /r/seduction | 16/04/22 06:40 AM |
| 4 | The reason why girls who want 6ft/6fig/6pac men piss me off and why I personally think it means you're a low quality women.this post reminded me of this meme | /r/seduction | 16/04/22 06:34 AM |
| 4 | Do wearing nice clothing really play a role when it comes to dating and girls? I truly see good looking guys wear whatever and still get girls easily.Nice clothing is definatelly a plus, but it is not a game-changer. Keep in mind that "Nice clothing" essentially means: not dirty or too worn-out or smelly well fitting for your body type and size matched well with the overall outfit (very important) not out-of-style fitting to the occasion/setting (don't go around day-gaming with your cocktail attire) accompanied by proper accessories, e.g. belt, watch, rings, earings, cuffs, etc. (often overlooked) it does not mean: expensive being overdressed… | /r/seduction | 16/04/22 06:27 AM |
| 3 | Guys who used to be rejected by women but worked on themselves and now are successful, do you feel little disgusted by the change in behaviour of women?No not at all. It is important to understand that women act mainly on emotion, and it is important to understand the emotions behind their actions. Once you do, everything makes sense: her actions then and her actions now. We all have our emotional triggers. I, for example, am turned on by independent women. Maybe I'll reject a girl with dead-end finances or emotionally clingy. And I am OK with it. If she happens to come back a few years later with a career, her own place and a car, she will be … | /r/seduction | 15/04/22 06:56 PM |
| 3 | How to get a girl out of my league?Almost every sentence of this post is wrong | /r/seduction | 15/04/22 05:44 PM |
| 1 | Does continual rejection increase confidence or kill it?By definition, confidence comes from success. But you can fake it till you make it. | /r/seduction | 15/04/22 07:48 AM |
| 17 | How to approach girls on the gym?That is a self-limiting belief. Of course, there are far better places to approach girls, but the assumption that people don't want that kind of attention is a creation of your own mind only, and it's just that: an assumption. What makes you think that girls want to get approached more e.g. on the street? Yet we preach about day-game and cold-approaches. Plus, if you like fit girls, the gym is the place you'll most likely find many of them. | /r/seduction | 15/04/22 05:42 AM |
| 1 | How can I meet/date hotter girls than I'm used to getting?assume extrovert traits ... profit? | /r/seduction | 15/04/22 04:53 AM |
| 1 | How can I meet/date hotter girls than I'm used to getting?Yes. And approach more. Like, a lot! | /r/seduction | 14/04/22 07:06 PM |
| 11 | Rate yourself 1-10I used to be a π. Now I think I'm closer to e | /r/seduction | 14/04/22 09:37 AM |
| 2 | How can I meet/date hotter girls than I'm used to getting?How can I meet hotter girls than I'm used to getting? You frequently go to places where good-looking girls are. Bars, clubs, etc. Try to be into popular parties or upscale bars too. But since we are talking about 6s or 7s, you can meet them almost anywhere, like the grocery shop or the local cafe. How can I date hotter girls than I'm used to getting? You should try talking to them more. Cold-approach as many as you can, especially in places like bars or clubs where approaching strangers is a nor… | /r/seduction | 14/04/22 07:54 AM |
| 1 | I have no idea what league im in. What should I do?I should be cold approaching based on my looks Why? Who says so? Where did you read that? In general, it's not a very good idea to start off by trying to appeal to women. Have women try to qualify to you. Are they in your league? My rule of thumb for cold-approaching is simple: "Would I fuck her, even one time?" | /r/seduction | 14/04/22 07:48 AM |
| 2 | How do I look?I honestly think that the biggest impact would be to improve your looks. So your number #1 goal would be to loose weight ASAP. 1.1 Visit a dietitian. Get a diet program and stick to it. You look nerdy, you can do it. If possible, get a (food/diet-focued) DNA test. These are pretty popular for screening you for potential food allergies. It is gonna help your dietitian with their plan and make it a lot more effective! 1.2 Start exercising. It doesn't matter if it is the gym, or dance, or pilates. … | /r/seduction | 13/04/22 01:48 PM |
| 1 | How do I look?You can change almost anything you want really (probably except height). What is your budget? I mean what are able to invest in self-improvement per year, supposing you decided to go all-in? Is it 100$ 1000$, more? | /r/seduction | 13/04/22 01:17 PM |
| 9 | How do I look?Honestly. Let me put it that way: You look OK, but people are always gonna choose your friend in red top over you any day. | /r/seduction | 13/04/22 12:54 PM |
| 12 | Do short guys still have a chance in casual relationships (hooking ups or one night stands)?If you are fucking her right, why not? | /r/seduction | 13/04/22 12:39 PM |
| 1 | I can't take this anymore.So long dude! Don't bother sending postcards | /r/seduction | 13/04/22 09:25 AM |
| 47 | Is it easy to get laid if I’m skinny and short ?5'9" ain't short dude. It's normal | /r/seduction | 13/04/22 09:04 AM |
| 1 | online dating is lowkey better, just use the right appsNah, I'm in Europe. Maybe it works differently here or it has been adopted more by particular people. Tinder is still the only viable option, but it is still like looking for needles in the haystack. The percentage of men is like 90+% and of the few women, a big portion are just fooling around (only in for the confidence boost). | /r/seduction | 13/04/22 07:53 AM |
| 1 | Does anyone go out by themselves to try to meet girls?Yep! Also helps if you are regular to some place and you know a few people (even by face). You'll feel a lot more comfortable. | /r/seduction | 13/04/22 07:17 AM |
| 8 | online dating is lowkey better, just use the right appsCare to share your location as well? Cause where I live, FB dating is 90% used for gay hookups | /r/seduction | 13/04/22 07:08 AM |
| 6 | How do rich dudes get women at a large scale?Or hire escorts and forget about it. | /r/seduction | 11/04/22 05:00 PM |
| 1 | What's the point of sleeping with average women?I dunno man. I don't have a huge sample, but I have had much better sex with "average" women. Edit: I think it has to do with the fact that most "stunning" girls never had to work on their sex skills or learn sex stuff in order to attract and keep men. They just had to look stunning. And that's it. So nobody cared if they were a starfish in bed. | /r/seduction | 11/04/22 02:21 PM |
| 7 | Is this appropriate or do I sound like a creep?TBH, He breaks it down quite nicely. I agree with most parts | /r/seduction | 09/04/22 07:27 AM |
| 69 | How to approach a guy, how to tell you are availableLook, you have 2 options: Either you can be there, be around him, talk to him, ask him questions, being kind and smiling, etc, and wait for him to notice. That's the passive flirting and it works with most women (but very few men). However, in this passive flirting, you should be prepared that he never notices, or he isn't interested, and you should also be mindful that you don't over-spend your time, effort and mental energy fixated to this particular guy for too long. The other option, as with… | /r/seduction | 09/04/22 06:27 AM |
| 1 | How To Approach This One GirlEvery time I read "one" in seduction, I cringe a little. For start, set your bar low. You sound too attached to the outcome with this one. Don't fantasize about particular people. Just go out there and approach them. If they reject you, that's fine, life goes on. Having said that, a simple approach would be best: "Hey, I saw you standing all alone here and wanted to come over and say 'hi'. I'm AutomaticCandle by the way (stick your hand for a handshake)". Do smalltalk after that or tell her that… | /r/seduction | 08/04/22 11:16 AM |
| 1 | How To Approach This One Girlobviously. It's a reference from a series. | /r/seduction | 08/04/22 11:11 AM |
| 1 | Going on dates with women has made me realize how invisible I am. Is this a woman thing or do I just look uninteresting?IMHO, In order to experience what 80% of girls go through during their day, you have to be in the top 5% or men. | /r/seduction | 08/04/22 11:02 AM |
| 4 | Set up a date with her for today, she asks “who else is coming?” Is it over?It's not neccessarily game-over, but it's gonna be awkward recovering from this. Next time/girl keep this in mind: You make it clear that you set-up a meetup for a reason. Namely: you are a man, who likes this woman and you want to go out with her to get to know her more. There is no 3rd wheel in this scenario, and if she insists bringing a friend, she is super-dumb or not into you at all. | /r/seduction | 08/04/22 11:00 AM |
| 1 | Accused of rape last year and haven't been able to recoverGuys, don't stick your dick in crazy or drunk. Simple. p.s. girls people can sue anybody these days it seems. Even people who you never even touched them. Don't let these crazy people deter you from going out and having fun. | /r/seduction | 08/04/22 10:52 AM |
| 3 | I wonder how many guys who share advices here are actually getting girlsSome people who get girls can give absolutelly horrible advice, while people who are not so experienced but observe a lot can give really insightful information. As others say, it's up to you to keep not only what advice comes from the most experienced people, but also to keep what clicks with you as well. Also, keep in mind that the issue with reddit is that each sub is an echo chamber and karma rewards keep it that way. E.g. here on seduction, we put far too much focus on "work on yourself fir… | /r/seduction | 07/04/22 08:12 PM |
| 1 | Question to all the guys who actively get lucky with girlsFor every girl you get lucky with, do y'all get rejected by a shit ton? That's pretty much sums it up, yep | /r/seduction | 06/04/22 12:32 PM |
| 2 | Is eye contact crucial for guys to approach girls? Would you still approach if a girl wouldn't look at you?huh... if you like him, why don't you talk to him? That's kind of a pathetic post to be in r/seduction | /r/seduction | 06/04/22 12:31 PM |
| 1 | Is eye contact crucial for guys to approach girls? Would you still approach if a girl wouldn't look at you?If I waited for girls to look at me, I'd have talked to 0 girls... | /r/seduction | 06/04/22 12:29 PM |
| 1 | On the idea of “preselected men”They don't only select these men. It means that being pre-selected is an important green-flag, even on the subconscious level | /r/seduction | 06/04/22 12:26 PM |
| 3 | After I ask her out then what?Victory Screech is usually what I do right after | /r/seduction | 05/04/22 12:06 PM |
| 0 | Took a PUA bootcamp but it didn't change anythingwell, yeah, I thought that was a prerequisite for being on reddit on the first place anyway | /r/seduction | 04/04/22 10:11 AM |
| -1 | Took a PUA bootcamp but it didn't change anythingThe title makes it sound like that the bootcamp was bad or inefficient. I guess that was not the case, but it's an inner-game/personal issue | /r/seduction | 04/04/22 09:44 AM |
| 3 | Height insecurity in collegeSo, let me get this straight. You approached all 50% of women who are taller than you and they all said that they are looking for someone taller, right? What did the other 50% of women told you? | /r/seduction | 02/04/22 12:09 AM |
| 6 | Height insecurity in collegeAnd I can't really approach women the same height or taller since I know they're looking for taller than that This is a hell of a generalization. Also, how do you know that? | /r/seduction | 02/04/22 12:01 AM |
| 3 | Girl is hinting at dick pic but I don’t have that big of a Dick?Oh God! Why send nude and dick-picks? If you have no intention of meeting with her, why bother anyway? Invest your time and mental energy in meeting real-life girls and being intimate with them. And apart from that, dick picks (and generally things that could potentially turn nasty) are so trashy and big No-No. Are you so much in need of her validation? | /r/seduction | 01/04/22 04:58 PM |
| 3 | Really wish I didn’t hear this.As a virgin this shit sank my soul to a bottomless pit What? why? That's good dummy! She is talking about sex with you. She is gauging your reaction. She is probably gauging if you'd also be down to a one night stand. Other than that. Her past is her past. Also, having gained some sexual experience is GOOD. She will know what to do and probably won't "crave" a life she didn't get to live later in life. But in ANY case, never ever be judgemental. OK, listen. You don't want to be her friend. I don… | /r/seduction | 01/04/22 09:28 AM |
| 0 | Anybody else get a different "vibe" when you don't jack off?No, not pheromones, but it can affect your mood and your energy/vibe. Most people who haven't jacked off (or generally have had a sexual release) for some time, will tend to be more edgy and irritable, and may seem more alert or high energy. Some girls will indeed notice that and respond positively to it (my experience tells me that this is usually with younger ages). If you jack off (or sexually release whatsoever), you are more calm, may even appear more drowsy. Again, some people will "vibe" … | /r/seduction | 01/04/22 08:30 AM |
| 1 | I don't get it. we had 4 hours no pause conv and she opened up about her abusive father and psych ward butDid you tell her you like her? I mean you like her as a woman, not just as a "weird thing". You were on a date, right? Did you kiss her, did some light touching, talk about sexual things, etc.? Well, there isn't much to "get". She wanted to open up. You seemed like a good and supportive listener, and she did. Maybe she was attracted then, but next day she didn't feel like it. Maybe she found someone else to unload. Maybe her cat died. Maybe she has other issues. Who knows. If she is no-contact f… | /r/seduction | 01/04/22 05:57 AM |
| 1 | Someone said I look like the type of person only a woman waiting for sex after marriage would want to date. How do I not look this way?Maybe he/she thinks that you look too... Christian / conservative? Do you feel like you are giving off that vibe too? If yes, maybe you should start becoming a bit more aggressive with your approaches (apart from style and body language that others also are commenting on). Like, make it clear from the start that you are interested in her sexually, not just to become friends. e.g. I came to talk to you because I like you and want to know you better, let's set up a date or something. | /r/seduction | 30/03/22 09:42 AM |
| 1 | 21 year old virgin need pointers.read these (2 parts): https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/imcq2e/turned\_30\_as\_a\_virgin\_now\_1\_year\_later\_after\_a/ | /r/seduction | 29/03/22 07:30 AM |
| 4 | Successfully cured my oneitis, and now instead I can't commit and get bored of people easilymaybe they ARE dull and un-exciting. Don't get me wrong, we put women on pedestal, but after you've been with a few, you come to realize that they are people like the rest of us. And with some people we click better than others. Also, try not to confuse attraction with excitement. New people are exciting and getting to know them is fun. Excitement fizzles-out anyway, and if these people are not the ones you click with you are left with nothing. I say you keep doing what you are doing. Meet new p… | /r/seduction | 29/03/22 07:23 AM |
| 9 | Life is easier after stopping trying to dategg One less competition for the rest of us. | /r/seduction | 28/03/22 02:38 PM |
| 2 | Do women just despise/dislike/hate men who’ve gone through traumatic events in their (younger) lives?Quick answer: definitely no! But it depends on several factors. The main being how you handled and are handling it. The traumatic event is, of course, unfortunate, but can serve as a great opportunity to demonstrate how strong you were/are, especially on emotional level. One more factor is when you disclose and what type of relationship you have. If you just met, you went on a couple of dates or just hooking up, then unloading your childhood trauma on her, is gonna turn off the attraction switch… | /r/seduction | 25/03/22 02:22 PM |
| 3 | Anyone have difficulty getting up again after they've been horny and then time has passed?Completely normal phenomenon. Do something else instead, put some relaxing music, watch a movie, etc. Try again later, or call it a night. Don't stress over one time you wasn't feeling it. | /r/seduction | 24/03/22 06:39 PM |
| 3 | Why Am I Getting Shit Tested?No matter how good-looking, successful, masculine, etc. you are, the girl WILL test you. Maybe won't test you on your appearance, but will find some other potential insecurity to pry. You said it yourself. The more she tests you, the more she's considering sleeping with you. And if you are already past "sleeping", then she'll shit-test you as a potential partner, and so on. Also, the mentality of "becoming better at X so as to not get shit-tested on X" is very dangerous. On one hand, girls who a… | /r/TheRedPill | 24/03/22 07:57 AM |
| 4 | Got ignored multiple times cold approachingLol. Where did you learn to cold-approach? I doubt anyone does that. Always approach from the front. Never from side or back. That is too threatening and will trigger defense response. If a girl is walking, stand in front of her and make her stop or at least acknowledge your presence. If she is walking away, walk faster (dash if you must) to catch up and always place yourself in front of her before talking. If she still wants to walk away, let her go. But make sure you come in front of her and m… | /r/seduction | 22/03/22 01:51 PM |
| 2 | Am I delusional for thinking i can score hot women despite being short, skinny, mediocre job. Should i settle?everytime I see a girl that my frens would say she's cute / hot, in my head I'm always like nah I can do better. Hence I'm not dating rn. Are you absolutely positively sure that you could sex and/or date those girls if you so wished and the only thing that's stopping you is your decision to "wait" for someone better? If yes, by all means, do wait for something better if you feel you could pull it through. Men peak around 30-40 yo, so, theoretically, if you still keep improving yourself, you coul… | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 05:50 PM |
| 1 | Is it worth chasing after women within 1k+ followers if you don’t have a solid Instagram presence?It's not worth chasing women with even 3 followers | /r/seduction | 19/03/22 11:01 PM |
| 5 | Is it actually that hard for short guys?I've come to realize that if you are not short yourself, you cannot really grasp what dating for short men feels like. It's one of those things that you have to see for yourself, no matter in what detail it's described to you. Let's just say that, if dating is a considered a numbers game, the numbers are terrible by default for short men. Not zero, but terrible. One good thing however is that the older you get, the less important it gets, but then again, your dating pool will also be more limite… | /r/seduction | 18/03/22 10:44 PM |
| 2 | Do you think women are aware of the skillset guys have to have to be successful at datingAs men learn by trial-and-error, women who go out in dates frequently will also have observed patterns. However, women are more emotional and they'll rather focus on the patterns in their own emotions. In other words, they'll notice the pattern rather than being aware of the skillset needed to perform that action. A guy can be working on his confidence and approaches for months, but the girl will only think "he said this and it made me feel that way". By the way that girl mentioning that he didn… | /r/seduction | 15/03/22 10:01 PM |
| 2 | Self-improvement and chasing ambitions are supposed to help you in dating but they are doing the opposite for me and I'm not sure how to fix this.Keep in mind that flirting and "selling yourself" works a lot differently with women than men. A girl can doll up and go to a bar and just sit there and (even if she is even marginally cute), I guarantee you that she will be hit on at least a few times in one evening. She is honing her "flirting" and "social" skills passively either she wants it or not. This does not work the same way for a man. Men, either we want it or not, we have to take a more active role in flirting. Hence, we need to be s… | /r/seduction | 14/03/22 12:47 PM |
| -2 | Age Objection: "you re too old for me"I've edited my comment. Hope it's clearer now that it's not manipulative. People "play" with far more important stuff when communicating for the sake of fun/argument/tease. You are truly an ass when you keep on lying. My comment was made because I assumed non-autistic audience. But sure, this should be calibrated accordingly | /r/seduction | 14/03/22 12:21 PM |
| -13 | Age Objection: "you re too old for me"I'm in the same situation. So here is what I have found it works more efficiently: Don't tell her your age if she doesn't ask. The more time she spends with you having fun, the less a deal-breaker age gonna be when she finds out. If she asks your age, ask her to guess how old you are instead. Whatever number she says, go with it in a playful manner for some time. If she says she thinks you are 25 for example, stick with it (theory says that the number she chooses is the age she wishes you are). … | /r/seduction | 14/03/22 11:32 AM |
| 1 | Self-improvement and chasing ambitions are supposed to help you in dating but they are doing the opposite for me and I'm not sure how to fix this.Well, IMO, it's the same as saying that playing a guitar is nothing more than stroking some tensed strings in a particular order, get it? Isnt cultivating a skill to make others like you the opposite of being yourself? No. It's cultivating a skill to "sell" yourself more effectively, whatever that self may be. It's not about cultivating how to be fake. On the contrary, it's all about honesty, and it's damn powerful and liberating. I'd strongly recommend reading through Models by Mark Mason if yo… | /r/seduction | 14/03/22 11:23 AM |
| 2 | Self-improvement and chasing ambitions are supposed to help you in dating but they are doing the opposite for me and I'm not sure how to fix this.So Instead of actively looking for girls I just invested all my time on myself and self discovery Yep. I found your issue there. You seem to be aware of that as well. If you don't put effort in something, it's never gonna happen. And if it does happen by a fluke, you'd be clueless on what to do. I don't mean to discourage what you are doing right now. Your "quest" is sacred and you should keep doing that for yourself, because that way you can lead a fulfilling life with or without a partner, whi… | /r/seduction | 14/03/22 12:27 AM |
| 0 | Female friend sent me [M 22] a nude out of the blueWeeeell.... I'm all for honesty, but we need to calibrate sometimes. Being honest with myself got me into my 30's as a virgin. During my 20's, if an ex-coworker sent me a nude, I'd act desperate and weird AF. One has to relax and act confident, even if it is not what he'd really do. I didn't suggest OP to say or do something dishonest. Instead, I tried to help him get into a confident and low-fucks-given mindset. Sure women sense "dishonest" people, but sensing you are "desperate" is a far more … | /r/seduction | 10/03/22 04:03 PM |
| 1 | Female friend sent me [M 22] a nude out of the blueIs she messing with my head? Are we gonna fuck next week? Am I being played like a fiddle? Maybe you are. Maybe not... We can't tell for sure. Girls People are complex and emotional. Maybe when she sent you the pic, she imagined your dick inside her, but 4 hours later she had cooled off... Who knows... As to how to followup or how to act around her next week, here is the rule of thumb that IMO is your best chance (considering all the possibilities) to get laid: Act as if you are currently textin… | /r/seduction | 10/03/22 03:11 PM |
| -1 | Seduction "culture" has ruined many interactions with girlsSo? I don't believe that's bad, or even undesirable. You HAVE to screw over in order to learn. It's like saying that you expect to play guitar at a big concert flawlessly and with confidence without ever having practiced in front of an audience. Or land your dream senior job at google right out of university. It hasn't "ruined" anything. These interactions would have never even happened if it wasn't for seduction. | /r/seduction | 25/02/22 03:07 PM |
| 3 | Does being in your late 20s or early 30s really limit your dating prospects as a guy?Does being in your late 20s or early 30s really limit your dating prospects as a guy? No, but worrying too much about it really does | /r/seduction | 21/02/22 11:32 AM |
| 2 | [Question] How to deal with "White Knights"?The most effective and mature thing to do is to continue as normal with the other guy in the picture. How would you approach the girl if the other guy was there from the start? You'd introduce yourself and chat with both of them. So, I'd recommend that you: Assume a relaxed and welcoming body posture when approaching the girl. Do NOT change your overal posture or your pleasant expression if you are approached by another guy. Greet him with a handshake and introduce yourself. Tell him what you we… | /r/seduction | 15/02/22 10:46 AM |
| 2 | What kinds of people are in the same "circles" as Instagram models?You dont have to be in those circles in order to meet and flirt with them if that's what you are asking. Having said that, statistically, a good way to expose yourself to many "models" is in upscale bars and private clubs. If you have particular people in mind, you could check up where they are regulars and just frequently go to those places. | /r/seduction | 06/02/22 10:07 AM |
| 5 | The girl I like is a bottle girlOK let's put a few things in place I'm kinda worried about making a move because I'm not a fan of her lifestyle This is BS excuse. This is what you tell yourself to feel better. She's super-hot and you want to fuck her brains out. We get that. Most of us would too. Nothing to feel bad or ashamed about. You are just scared to make a move and have to make up excuses for yourself. Get over that and at least be honest with yourself. We Def vibed. I never hooked up with her or anything... We talk eve… | /r/seduction | 01/02/22 01:41 PM |
| 1 | As a woman you can’t seduce me by flirting if I’m not attracted to you :If I had a dollar every time one of my girl friends told me "eww!" every time she went out with a guy and then they turned LTR with him being the sexiest man there is, I'd be rich. Also, if I had a dollar every time a girl preached about all the good qualities women should be looking for in a man, but she herself constantly runs head-first into toxic relationships, I'd be twice as rich. Think again. Maybe you are venting. Maybe it never happened to you till now. But "sexyness" for a woman is far… | /r/seduction | 01/02/22 09:04 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Only if by "looks" you mean the overall image and mannerism they project and not only their face/body | /r/seduction | 29/01/22 07:51 PM |
| 0 | [deleted by user]Why did she give you her number/social info then? | /r/seduction | 28/01/22 08:40 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Golden Rule: Use texts ONLY to exchange necessary information and organize dates. Keep smalltalk for the actual date. PERIOD. If she rejects the date, she wasn't available to begin with and now you've saved several hours/days of waiting and stressing. | /r/seduction | 28/01/22 08:39 AM |
| 2 | Was I really stupid? Or is this meaningless harsh criticism?well... did you want anything more to happen? If yes, then yes, you are stupid for not making a move because it sounded like it would have been really easy. | /r/seduction | 25/01/22 03:15 PM |
| 5 | 21 to 17 age gap for a hookup???but when you pull "why can't they get someone their opposite/appropriate gender", everyone flips out | /r/seduction | 17/01/22 02:05 PM |
| 3 | 21 to 17 age gap for a hookup???As long as you are both consenting and legal, do whatever you feel like. No reason to over-analyze especially if it's about a hookup | /r/seduction | 17/01/22 02:04 PM |
| 1 | Considering just forgetting about women?I'd consider giving up. 1 less competition for somebody else who is still trying his best | /r/seduction | 15/01/22 02:43 PM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]I told This coworker of mine that I like her and she ended up telling me she likes me too! So, you are together, right? Dude knows im trying to make her mine too. So, you ARE together, RIGHT? | /r/seduction | 13/01/22 12:44 PM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]tip: There is nothing in particular making other people stand out either. It is all about how you sell yourself. If you are bored of your own life, other people will consider you boring too. | /r/seduction | 11/01/22 08:01 AM |
| 6 | Men...this is the main reason you aren't getting laidMen. This is the number one reason why you aren't getting laid... You aren't social enough. That's it. That's what it all boils down to in the end. pretty blanket statement. I can easily come up from the top of my head with a bunch of examples from my friends an acquaintances who are either super-social but can't get a girl to like them sexually, and others who are not like super-social, but do have a GF. Personally, I've been on the former group for several years. Had no trouble meeting and bef… | /r/seduction | 10/01/22 05:16 PM |
| 3 | [deleted by user]The fact that you care to post screenshot proof of chats, screams "Validation". Something tells me that you don't value yourself a lot. Not many people do anyway. So you choose to get validation from the number of girls you are fucking. Almost all the beautiful girls I know, have this kind of lack of confidence and seek validation by screwing people left and right. People call them whores, but they are scared little girls to me I'm not saying that it's bad to have many sexual partners. I'm sayin… | /r/seduction | 10/01/22 08:28 AM |
| 0 | Insights from therapy: Pickup might fuck up your relationshipOK that's good to hear | /r/seduction | 07/01/22 08:43 AM |
| 3 | Insights from therapy: Pickup might fuck up your relationshiplol, yeah. Also OP is not too bad himself. I could never call a 4-year relationship "failed". You learn A LOT! | /r/seduction | 07/01/22 08:30 AM |
| 2 | Insights from therapy: Pickup might fuck up your relationshipNot to mention that you could fuck up your relationship big time due to your neediness if you are clueless how to get girls with your own skills (and you only got lucky with that one). | /r/seduction | 07/01/22 08:08 AM |
| 3 | Insights from therapy: Pickup might fuck up your relationshipyeah, no joke really. People tend to project their self on many situations. It's super-hard for therapists to stay 100% subjective. That's why it's kinda mandatory that therapists do their own psychotherapy. Pick-up, on the surface level can sound pretty intimidating and abnormal and can be quite triggery for women. As for OP, he's trying to figure out why his relationships fail and he seems to be zooming in pick-up. If his therapist is a girl, maybe she could have a take on this. Something tell… | /r/seduction | 07/01/22 08:04 AM |
| 3 | Insights from therapy: Pickup might fuck up your relationshipIs your therapist a woman by any chance? | /r/seduction | 07/01/22 07:37 AM |
| 4 | 'The game' for girls? How do I get THE guy?I think you are getting one thing wrong. The point of "winning the game" for both men and women is the same. Humans are biologically monogamous and we are wired to find the partner who will ensure as much as possible the survival of our offsprings. Seduction teaches to have as many partners as possible for two main reasons: So you can build-up experience, develop your character and find out what you actually like and what not in a partner, and also to be able to screen future partners better and… | /r/seduction | 06/01/22 08:24 AM |
| 0 | Girl with holding sex?In my personal opinion, either one of these is almost always the case: She does not feel ready for it. This may be about her (religious, got hurt in the past, other trauma, scared of LDR, asexual, etc.) or about you (you come through as a player) She is seeing someone else (for sex) who is more important than you and she feels she does not like to "cheat" him with you. Could be an ex who she is not totally over yet. In either case, you could equally "manipulate" her by subtly (or overtly) implyi… | /r/seduction | 04/01/22 02:45 PM |
| 3 | I used to think I had to be into "manly" things to get with girlsI agree on everything. IMHO, girls have a very strong emotional radar. I mean, they can see things and discern even the slightest behaviors. E.g. We say "respect a girl's boundaries", and one could say that is not a masculine trait. A masculine trait would be to go after and push for what you want. Say, a girl changes her mind and doesn't want to have sex, there is a huge difference on agreeing because you want to be agreeable so that she'll eventually fuck you, and on agreeing because you are p… | /r/seduction | 04/01/22 09:01 AM |
| 3 | Did anyone else actually have a great childhood with loving parents but still struggle with dating and relationships?Since you seem to know where your problem lies, why not focus on fixing that instead of trying to figure out how did you end up here? There is no 100% correlation. Some people were struggling in their childhood, some didn't. Who cares. It's all about what you do from now on that matters. | /r/seduction | 01/01/22 06:40 AM |
| 6 | Did anyone else actually have a great childhood with loving parents but still struggle with dating and relationships?If you are ugly, sure | /r/seduction | 31/12/21 09:42 PM |
| 2 | Shooting your shot at someone “out of your league”?well, you should make it a habit shooting your shot outside your league. | /r/seduction | 20/12/21 08:00 AM |
| 1 | Is it absolutely necessary to be above average inorder to have a decent dating life?define "average" define "decent dating life" You have to be above average in social and flirting skills in order to have abundance in your dating life. | /r/seduction | 15/12/21 10:22 AM |
| 2 | If being needy is the least attractive thing, why do so many needy guys end up doing well with women?You and her investing disproportionately. | /r/seduction | 14/12/21 03:54 PM |
| 2 | If being needy is the least attractive thing, why do so many needy guys end up doing well with women?still managing to find relatively attractive/intelligent partners you forgot "desperate", "needy", and/or fucked-up. Mark Mason "Models" presents such case quite well in an early chapter. Essentially highlighting the fact that being needy can indeed attract women who are equally needy as well, but this does not lead to a healthy relationship. Also, many people (usually inexperienced) can mistake neediness and control for attention and attraction. Being attractive or intelligent does not necessar… | /r/seduction | 14/12/21 03:52 PM |
| 1 | At what age for men is it easiest to attract and seduce women?Fear of missing out age it's easier to attract girls IMO, These are unrelated topics and I am not sure how you are drawing the correlation. Are you trying to calculate the age where you will be getting more girls and "catch up"? Yes, you are probably overthinking it. I suspect deeper-rooted issues regarding your confidence. If you don't address those, you are never going to feel that you "caught up" and that could be detrimental for your mental health Instead, try to put everything into perspect… | /r/seduction | 09/12/21 08:42 AM |
| 11 | Fuck the gameAnd I know not few worthless bumbs who are stick-thin with awful facial hair, call themselves or "artists" or "influencers" or whatever, never having worked a real job in their life, living in a basement, but slay girls left and right. Of course it's more to it than being rich and buff. In fact, it has nothing to do with being rich or buff or handsome (maybe a little with the latest) | /r/seduction | 08/12/21 06:34 PM |
| 1 | Fuck the gameYou are probably not doing it right | /r/seduction | 08/12/21 06:29 PM |
| 2 | Sex on the First Date, How to proceed?How do i proceed from here? Do i set up the next date or wait a bit? Do you want to go on the next date? If yes, tell her. Be assertive. No games. No mind-tricks. A simple "Hey! I had a great time as well. Your place smelled nice (or whatever simple compliment)! I'd like to see you again. Are you free this weekend?" | /r/seduction | 08/12/21 10:43 AM |
| 1 | Approach Us!!!Contrary to you that you have none. | /r/seduction | 06/12/21 07:55 PM |
| 1 | Approach Us!!!You are not providing any real insight into what women actually want, or anything valuable in terms of seduction whatsoever. Yes, women want to be approached! No freaking way! Guess what... Men want to be approached too! We'd really enjoy not having to take the knew-shattering burden of rejection for once. That's not how this community works though. We do what we have to do and we grind and grind in life so as to be able to have a bit of a higher chance than average Joe right there. I get it. Yo… | /r/seduction | 06/12/21 06:25 PM |
| 1 | Approach Us!!!Approach Us!!! "... So I can get all the validation I need, feel better about myself, and eventually have more dating options (statistically higher-quality men), even though I'll still opt for my abusive ex the moment he texts me." Jokes apart, if not for game and humor, you would reject 99% of people in this sub no matter how desperate you are. Let us do our work here! We are trying to get better at flirting and socializing in general so we can keep carrying the conversations for lazy-ass peopl… | /r/seduction | 04/12/21 10:34 AM |
| 2 | Well I asked out my classmate today.Maybe it's an excuse, maybe it's some legit reason, maybe she really does want to go out with you but she is unable to. You can't know for sure right now. Kudos for trying though! you are already ahead of 95% of boys out there. Yes, rule of thumb is that "whoever is interested, finds time", but it could be beneficial to push a bit further. Maybe she is unsure or maybe it sounded as an inconvenience to her. OK, she can't make to coffee, but you could do something else instead. You could go over t… | /r/seduction | 03/12/21 04:54 PM |
| 3 | The biggest Red Flags to be aware of when you meet someone. Don’t let looks cloud your judgment of her charactertry me. What did you mean by "settling for eyecandy"? | /r/seduction | 01/12/21 07:32 PM |
| 3 | The biggest Red Flags to be aware of when you meet someone. Don’t let looks cloud your judgment of her characterI think you got it a bit wrong. Maybe I didn't explain it right. When I say eye-candy, I mean good-looking girls, like 8 or 9 or 10. You don't "settle" for eye-candy. You settle for bad sex in favor of eye-candy. A good looking partner is actually sought after. Yes, care and affection are of course important for LTR, but the tradeoff that I discussed was about sex quality versus looks only. There is nothing to feel bad about. Men strive to become fit and good-looking exactly in order to be able … | /r/seduction | 01/12/21 11:14 AM |
| 126 | The biggest Red Flags to be aware of when you meet someone. Don’t let looks cloud your judgment of her characterIf you are looking for someone as a long-term partner and a serious relationship, there are way more flags to look out for. Here are some more: She thinks that the world revolves around her. Everything has to do with her in one way or another, even if it sounds absurd. Boss delaying salary for everyone? It's because he didn't want her to be able to buy that dress. Party got cancelled due to pandemic? It's because Fate/God/Stars didn't want her to have a good time. She drains your energy. If you … | /r/seduction | 30/11/21 10:33 PM |
| 10 | [India] my therapist just told me that cold approaches don't work in this societyDon't listen to advice from girls. They have good intention, but it won't help you. If you really need to take lessons from girls, see and analyze their actions instead If your therapist is a girl and/or not specialized to deal with love-challenged men and efficient flirting, their advice could be equally worthless. They could help you with dealing with the emotional aftermath, but advice on the process itself could even have negative effect. As others said, random compliments won't work on west… | /r/seduction | 29/11/21 02:01 PM |
| 12 | I'm catching feelings for the girl I lost my virginity toAm I like this because she's the girl I lost my v card to? Yes. And also because you keep interacting with her and you see her as a potential partner. Having no/few other options, she climbs to the top of your list despite the red flags Will these feelings go away if I have options and talk to more women? "Talk"? I don't know. However, if you do flirt and go on dates with other women, and have sex with someone else, you most definitely will. You said that she has a ton or red flags, so meeting s… | /r/seduction | 25/11/21 11:28 AM |
| 11 | To attract girls how can i seem confident even if i'm insecure?Is being straight in posture enough? no | /r/seduction | 22/11/21 10:21 AM |
| 3 | How to get girls to reject me earlier so i waste less time and get less annoyedit's okay I prefer phone number and as I was walking away, she literally shoved her phone into my face and made me type my insta into her Never fall into her frame. No matter how hard she presses. You stated you don't to insta, only phone, then stick to that. You probably could had your rejection earlier, or she could had admired your confidence and steadfast character... who knows. "Hey I'm free tomorrow!" Then I gave her the time. Now she's not answering and I'm assuming she'll just say sorry … | /r/seduction | 18/11/21 03:14 PM |
| 4 | Message for the guys that feel like giving upyes! yes! yes! Just focus on yourself! fuck girls. Who needs them anyway! They'll come rushing at you the moment you enter the millionaire club, r..right? Reject all them of course (unless you are chased by a Victoria Secret supermodel), and keep working on yourself till you hit that digit "8" on your abs count and that billion in your bank account! Chances are you'll have generated almost 10x times as much in taxes and for your bosses by then, but that's way better than having girls derail you … | /r/seduction | 18/11/21 08:49 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]How can I tell if she’s asking to hang out as a friend or whether she’s asking me out? What difference does it make? Do you like her? Do you like her company? If yes, go to the vinyl shop, relax, and have a good time. If you both enjoy each other's company, suggest you two jump to a coffee shop or something, and carry on. See how you both like each other and if there is any sexual tension building. My guess is that you like this girl and you do want something sexual to happen. If so, going to th… | /r/seduction | 17/11/21 10:22 AM |
| 1 | How to escalate via text before meeting up?You've been texting for long and still haven't met. Tell him you are visiting and ask him to finally meet him. No big deal. Build tension and let the escalation take place when you two are together. IMO, flirting can be a bit awkward and mis-interpreted via text. I personally use texts only to keep in touch and plan dates. Nothing more. | /r/seduction | 17/11/21 10:16 AM |
| 175 | Has anyone else lost girls because you didn’t chase her enough?A girl will say all sorts of things. Better look at their actions instead. They are giving you mixed signals and that means that probably you are not building enough attraction to begin with. She likes you, wants to meet you, etc. but then she returns home and she's feeling a bit "flat", like "meh". So when you text her again, she is not investing that much, and she'll also come up with excuses in her mind to validate her weird behaviour. So, no, what you are describing is a girl who practically… | /r/seduction | 16/11/21 03:33 PM |
| 9 | [deleted by user]You should had said "GG Ez" instead of goodbye /s Anyway. Kudos brother! The age thing is only a problem in our mind. I won't lie. I started having sex after 30. And TBH, I felt terrible till then. I was indeed missing out. But the performance anxiety is only in your mind. You know how to use your mouth and fingers and as long as you care about pleasuring your partner, you are already doing better sex than the majority of people out there! | /r/seduction | 11/11/21 08:23 AM |
| 1 | Fat jacked guy who gets girls and now people who used to like me hate me.Can't stop thinking this was written by Kyriakos Grizzly | /r/seduction | 08/11/21 05:11 AM |
| 20 | A girls perspective on ‘nice guys’Yeah so basically the whole thing is a big fucking farce and there’s no logic to it Yeah, well, if you are trying to connect and communicate with girls at an logical level, you've already lost. Girls are emotional. Notice how most of your points can be explained by that: Guys who tease and challenge them are fun to be around, they make their emotions jump around: fun, anger, challenge, etc. in comparison with nice-guys who are emotional flat-lines They are attracted to mysterious guys because th… | /r/seduction | 05/11/21 05:55 AM |
| 1 | The more you want them the less they want youSometimes they actually just want someone to talk to Doesn't this qualifies as "wanting attention"? Not in a negative manner. Also, Ignoring the other person when he texts you is not a very good way of making work friends. Just saying | /r/seduction | 04/11/21 01:02 PM |
| 55 | The more you want them the less they want youyeah, she wasn't interested in that. Or she might had other things in her mind, dunno. I'd suggest you'd better start meeting other girls and start investing your mental power to more available people. | /r/seduction | 03/11/21 09:00 AM |
| 35 | The more you want them the less they want youprobably just that: someone to do small talk with. What did you text her when you texted her first? | /r/seduction | 03/11/21 08:39 AM |
| 333 | The more you want them the less they want youThat girl from work never "wanted" you. She wanted the attention or favors. She didn't need you when you texted her, so she never bothered replying back. If a girl likes you, it won't matter if you or she texts first. In fact, she will make it easy for you. i.e. you'll feel that breaking your head over who texts first is total nonsense! | /r/seduction | 03/11/21 08:22 AM |
| 8 | What do I do when a woman is ranting about her ex's on first date?Simply put, if they are talking about their ex, they are thinking about their ex (a lot). So, she is out with you, and still thinking about her ex. And it means that you are not the most important guy in her mind during the date, which is not good. The best thing you can do is to decisively cut her off (e.g. "I don't wanna hear about your ex. I am not your girl-friend."), and talk about something else. If she does bring her ex back, tell her "It seems that you are thinking about your ex alot. Wh… | /r/seduction | 31/10/21 11:02 AM |
| 3 | My goal is to have my first date by the time I'm 40.The only real advice here is to simply get more "sexual". You seem to have your life in order alright, good for you. But your lack of affection is probably due to repressed sexuality. Use your friends and hobbies to meet new girls and approach them (sexually I mean). Flirt with them, tease them, tell them they are pretty, ask them out, etc. No more platonic friends or waiting to "feel comfortable" around girls first. Be confident and direct. If she does not like you, go to the next one. | /r/seduction | 30/10/21 05:37 PM |
| 2 | What, in your opinion, is your biggest challenge with women?Instead of being 100% friendly, I started adding some form of flirting right from the start. I would still try to befriend girls of course, but I made sure to communicate that I don't see them as a friend. i.e. I would tell them things that would probably make a friend uncomfortable. e.g. "I like your hair, can I touch them?" or flat out "I think you are very cute and I'd like to get to know you better. How about we grab a drink?" or would do some (suggestive) roleplay e.g. "So you cook eh? So, … | /r/seduction | 30/10/21 02:19 PM |
| 44 | What, in your opinion, is your biggest challenge with women?I used to struggle a lot with telling girls that I like them. I mean, I could form a friendship really easily and get a girl to talk and laugh and all. But I could not tell her that I was sexually attracted to her. I had a "repressed sexuality". And many many guys do have that kind of problem nowadays because of the lack of male role models and the current state of society. Another thing that I really struggled to wrap my head around is that almost all girls base their interactions on emotion ra… | /r/seduction | 29/10/21 01:36 PM |
| 2 | [deleted by user]Were you "crack head energy" with your friends from day 1 from meeting them? I guess not. Things developed over time. And also the fact that you developed "together" led to such strong bonds in the first place. As you grow up, it becomes increasingly difficult to form such relationships mainly due to this fact. I think that you should keep meeting people and getting more "mature" experiences on friendships and sexual relationships now that you are older. Don't expect to form such crazy connectio… | /r/seduction | 29/10/21 01:17 PM |
| 3 | Need some adviceIf a girl likes you she’ll say yes This is simply not true. She may like his company or she may may like him as a friend, and she will again say yes. Agreeing to do something together does not imply sexual attraction, and this is where most guys fail miserably discerning "signals" from girls. oh I went to the beach, you go “me and you should go to the beach”, etc.. it’s very simple Depends on the context and the level of friendship they have. It can be easily regarded as creepy (or non-calibrate… | /r/seduction | 29/10/21 01:10 PM |
| 2 | Need some advicehuh? how do people talk in real life? This is just the context. You can make it sound really creepy or really smooth of course. But in any case, it is good all around because it shows that you are confident (actually ask her out), it shows intent (you tell her that you like talking with her), it's mature and well calibrated with pretext (you want to know her a bit more, that's all), it's a suggestion for a plan (clear suggestion to grab some coffee after school), and it is also a bit cocky (you … | /r/seduction | 29/10/21 10:52 AM |
| 1 | Need some advicewhy? | /r/seduction | 29/10/21 10:39 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Do you have any reason to believe that HE would like to take advantage of that? If they've been friends for over 10 years and nothing happened, then I'd assume it would be pretty safe for your GF's perspective. I'd be worried if you had any indications that he would want to take advantage of it however (some long past crush for example, if they are flirty around each other, etc.). In any case, it is a good opportunity to show your GF that you trust her. If unsure, ask her about the accommodation… | /r/seduction | 29/10/21 07:53 AM |
| 1 | Need some advice"Hey, you know what. I enjoy talking to you and you are so nice. I'd really want to get to know you better. and have a proper talk somewhere more quite. How about grabbing a coffee after school? Here... type in your number so we can set it up next week!" (hand her your phone) | /r/seduction | 29/10/21 07:36 AM |
| 0 | [deleted by user]I know it’s a super niche thing. Wishing "happy birthday" is a super-safe-zone thing to do. It's customary, and it's also very rude for the girl not to reply back. You know who is wishing "happy birthday" to pretty girls on instagram? Every Fucking AFC there is. Especially on social media, you have to set yourself appart from the others. That's the #1 rule of thumb. So, no, wishing "happy birthday" is the LAST thing you wanna do. It's better. e.g. to reply something witty and funny on one of her… | /r/seduction | 29/10/21 07:28 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Is it a flat-out insult or is it a shit test? If it is an insult, act as you would react to a male. Tell him/her to get lost or fuck off, or whatever. If it is a shit test and testing your insecurity, there are several ways to hold frame: Agree and exaggerate Act as if you never heard it Agree and downplay Generally, insulting back, walking away, or acting hurt are the least desirable reactions because they all mean you are loosing frame. I don't want to advertise (I am not affiliated in any way… | /r/seduction | 29/10/21 07:20 AM |
| 2 | 26 years old. Making big changes in my life. Never had GF, Sex or Kiss. But that’s changing. Should I tell women about my lack of experience ?It's the same for women, but on the opposite side :) | /r/seduction | 29/10/21 07:08 AM |
| 1 | 26 years old. Making big changes in my life. Never had GF, Sex or Kiss. But that’s changing. Should I tell women about my lack of experience ?Don't tell them yourself if they don't ask. If asked generally about your past, it's best to say "I don't want to talk about my past (because it hurts me)". This is a good response even if you do have past experiences. Don't lie if explicitly asked (e.g. "have you ever been with a girl?") | /r/seduction | 29/10/21 07:02 AM |
| 20 | 15 tips on how to become a better dating candidateNice post man. Most are pretty basic and textbook stuff, but they are very well summed-up and written-out. Here are my only 2 comments: Know your target audience - Requires knowing yourself and playing to your strengths. If you have an average body type, don't go for the ripped girl with a 6 pack that is expressing her love for exercising in her tinder bio, I can guarantee you, you are not what she's looking for. Maybe you're a great cook? Find a woman whose love passes through the stomach. Mayb… | /r/seduction | 11/10/21 05:05 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]2 things have told her you like her? Or she knows somehow that you don't see her as only a friend? If not, then my bet is that she is just friendly. How do you flirt with her? observe. Does she do that with other people/friends as well? If yes, it may be part of her mannerism and in that case, I'd again bet that it's only friendly | /r/seduction | 09/10/21 05:05 AM |
| 3 | [deleted by user]Depends. If you pay for it, nope. If it is one-time and then the girls dumps/ghosts you, it can do more harm than good If it is regular sex with one or more girls who keep coming back for more, yes, definitely, because it will make you more confident and detached from the outcome (i.e. it won't be a big deal expressing your sexual attraction to a girl if you have your GF back at home ready to blow your dick no matter) Bottom line: sex itself won't make you comfortable/confident. Getting yourself… | /r/seduction | 24/09/21 06:28 AM |
| 9 | Any guys who were kissless virgins in their mid 20s who managed to turn it around?Mine: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/imcq2e/turned_30_as_a_virgin_now_1_year_later_after_a | /r/seduction | 23/09/21 09:21 PM |
| 1 | Seduction should never be the #1 priority in your lifeIf by "seduction" you mean going out every night to the same clubs, or going out every day doing daygame, and you approach girls in the same manner, with the sole purpose of getting them to say "yes" when you ask them to give your their number of come to your house, then yes, it sounds redundant and unfulfilling. But I think that the vast majority of people here refer to "seduction" as the process of (re-)learning social patterns, developing emotional intelligence and honing of that skill-set th… | /r/seduction | 17/09/21 06:16 AM |
| 1 | Seduction should never be the #1 priority in your lifeWhat if I wanna get involved in seduction in a professional way (e.g. coaching)? | /r/seduction | 17/09/21 06:09 AM |
| 1 | Just kind of realized how bad my insecurity around lack of sex was hurting meI see. This sounds like an incredibly long train of thought. I asked because when you said "It wasn't until yesterday I realized that..." I thought that it was like a sudden epiphany. But I get now that it was rather a long process that you've obviously working in your mind for quite a long time. Anyhow. That's great that you have figured how things play out for you. For me it was not so easy. For me, it did matter if I bust a nut in someone else. It did matter if I manage to have sex or not. I … | /r/seduction | 08/09/21 07:38 PM |
| 1 | Just kind of realized how bad my insecurity around lack of sex was hurting meIf I might ask. How did you realize? Was it an epiphany, or somebody helped you? | /r/seduction | 08/09/21 05:35 AM |
| 0 | Countries where Asian men are Most Desired?even towards Asian American women If you are undesirable with US asian girls, something tells me you are gonna be undesirable with Asian asian girls as well | /r/seduction | 04/09/21 06:41 AM |
| 9 | “We have a connection, but she’s taken.” False. You are being needy and projecting your romantic fantasies onto her.If with "connection" you mean some of the following: "we regularly stare at each other for a bit too long" "we both regularly compliment each other's bodies" "we regularly flirt if we are alone" "we have kissed or have otherwise been intimate (beyond what normal friends would do)", Then yes, there is hope and the fact that she is not with you is that your game is weak. But 99.9% is what OP is saying that guys will generally develop 1-sided platonic feelings for a female who happens to be in thei… | /r/seduction | 02/09/21 10:30 AM |
| 3 | How do you avoid the 'friendzone' when playing the long game?If you really have to be around her (I mean, interact with her regularly, e.g. in the same group of friends), then make absolutely sure that you project the image of a sex-worthy male. Meaning that you should not be afraid to demonstrate that you are dating and/or having sex with other women. As we said, if the time is right in the future, nothing prevents you from getting together if you happen to be both single. But it's possible you could find an even more high-value partner till then! | /r/seduction | 01/09/21 03:21 PM |
| 5 | How do you avoid the 'friendzone' when playing the long game?There is no "long game". Either she is available or not. You can try to "fish out" some information about what she thinks of you (e.g., if she was single, would she accept if you invited her out for a drink?). If she is generally positive, tell her that you also like her (as a woman) but you understand and respect that she is not available. Tell her that, if in the future, your paths cross again and you happen to both be single at the time, you promise to give it a shot. Then go ahead and contin… | /r/seduction | 01/09/21 08:50 AM |
| 34 | No confidence/female attentionThe only time I have successfully picked up and brought a girl home is when her friend told me ahead of time she liked me. Mind hack: act as if that was the case with any girl that you find attractive and want to meet. Act ad if you've already heard that she likes you | /r/seduction | 28/08/21 02:16 PM |
| 3 | [deleted by user]This is why we advise guys that being a bit more persistent is a good thing, even though, ironically, common consensus is that "a No is a No". I know that pressing for a number after being rejected can be really scary especially for shy guys because it can be considered bothersome (at best) or harassment (at worst). I approached a girl once and the conversation was going great, she was receptive and smiling and all, but when I asked her number she said "No, I won't give you my number". I said OK… | /r/seduction | 10/08/21 02:37 PM |
| 24 | Why do women fall for me romantically, but not sexually, despite them finding me physically attractive?You sound odd and a bit confused honestly. If it was just one woman giving you mixed signals (that's what I call it my book, to give you attention but refuse to date you), then we'd say it's an edge case. But women are fairly consistent with how they react to attractive guys. Having said that, being objectively physically attractive is not 100% of the story, so don't count to being told you are physically attractive, at all. My naive guess is that you start meeting women and you start being very… | /r/seduction | 08/08/21 12:10 PM |
| 1 | Not sure what I did wrongon your last date, did you make it clear that you like her as a man-to-woman? I mean, did you kiss, or you explicitly told her that you liked her, or had some sex talk, or relationship talk? Or did you go out on a platonic data as friends and had a good time? In other words, would you be able to repeat everything you did that night with one of your female friends no problem whatsoever? If the answer is "yes", then that's what you did wrong | /r/seduction | 07/08/21 06:08 AM |
| 3 | Life is so unfairSome girl would (rightfully on my opinion) say that it's also shallow to go out and talk/game with 20 girls every single night so that you'll get laid as much as you can. So... I guess we are living in a shallow world. What she did, IMO, is not bad because it's shallow. It's bad because it's just disrespectful to her date to just leave him in cold water. Hey, we are out on a date together. It's fine to go over say hi to someone you know, but you are out with me tonight. I don't want to be lookin… | /r/seduction | 31/07/21 11:40 AM |
| 2 | Life is so unfairI would have left her on the bar talking to the bartender and would have went to talk to some other girl group. Something tells me that she would rush back to you the moment she realized that you were effortlessly talking to some girl you didn't even know and having fun. | /r/seduction | 31/07/21 11:34 AM |
| 2 | Life is so unfair"Equal chance"? Bwahahaha! don't make me laugh! You never gonna have an "equal" chance with an in-shape well-kept tall dude (especially in places like California). In the same manner, a deformed, sick or crippled dude is never going to have an "equal" chance with you. I am not saying this as a black-pill. I am saying that, despite this fact, you still have to find a way to deal with it and press on either you like it or not. Life is not fair as to what it gives you, but she is damn fair with the… | /r/seduction | 31/07/21 11:19 AM |
| 1 | I accidentally simped EXTREMELY hard.It's OK to be nice to people and helping them when in need. However, helping them out and simping are different things and you seem to be snapping out of it thankfully. Be sure to put on your boundaries as soon as possible and you won't be taken advantage of in the future. What you can do now? First of all, don't act up all offended. You offered to help and that's what you are gonna do! Because a man is a man of his word! Take her car, get it to the shop, get the battery and swap the tires. Retu… | /r/seduction | 24/07/21 03:42 PM |
| 0 | She sends me her photos, selfies, random tiktok videos ,but upon talking to her she only replies ''yes'' ''hahahahah' should I stop talking to her?Yes, you should stop talking to her. She is using you for validation! | /r/seduction | 16/07/21 07:43 AM |
| 22 | The WORST ADVICE that I have EVER HEARD (and that you are told everyday)It's not even just "social skills"! It is deliberate action(s) in order to build sexual attraction and get laid or have a relationship The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result | /r/seduction | 14/07/21 04:45 PM |
| 0 | As men, we are blessedWe are blessed? Are we? A woman would only need to get in shape. Boom 8/10! 10/10 if she also has a pretty face. | /r/seduction | 13/07/21 07:26 AM |
| 577 | Sex won’t make you happyHere is mine: At 28, I took a hard look at myself. I realized I had spent the last few years of my life chasing good grades and my career, and I had not achieved anything else. Don’t get me wrong, working on what you are good and what you are actually enjoying is fun, and getting a fat salary for it is better than not getting money, but you will eventually find out the hollowness that comes with it (loneliness) tl;dr: develop yourself all around. Take pride in your victories. Let your past only … | /r/seduction | 06/07/21 12:31 PM |
| 1 | When a woman says she didn't feel a connection or a "spark", is that something that is purely a matter of natural chemistry, or is it a sign that there wasn't enough escalation.Well, it's one thing to say something about a specific person (even worse to say something bad) like "My scumbag ex cheated on me so I don't trust easily, no offense." and another thing to say that "My trust had been damaged really badly in the past so when I start dating someone new, I'm taking it very slowly. You seem OK though, *heh* (comic relief)". If you yourself are pretty set on starting something casual without strings attached, then it's preferable to be crystal-clear about that, so th… | /r/seduction | 05/07/21 07:10 PM |
| 17 | When a woman says she didn't feel a connection or a "spark", is that something that is purely a matter of natural chemistry, or is it a sign that there wasn't enough escalation.I disagree. If a girl agrees on a date, then she does find him physically attractive (at least attractive enough to give him a chance). Unless you are talking about emotionally or mentally attractive, in which case I agree that you can't know that before the first date. Also, you should show your intentions (that you are attracted to her as a man-to-woman, and not as a "let's just talk as friends") in all cases, not only if your aim is casual sex. | /r/seduction | 05/07/21 06:46 AM |
| 26 | When a woman says she didn't feel a connection or a "spark", is that something that is purely a matter of natural chemistry, or is it a sign that there wasn't enough escalation.Very good question! If a girl agrees to go out on a date with you, she is attracted alright. Then something happens on the date and this vibe is killed, hence the "let's be friends". This means that she gave you a chance, she secretly hoped to work out, but you didn't "rock her world" or make her panties wet. You just went out and talked as good friends, not as man-woman. Typically on dates, I'll have a nice conversation and see if things naturally develop. I take it easy, I don't attempt to do … | /r/seduction | 05/07/21 06:40 AM |
| 1 | Had sex with this girl before. Now going to her place to ‘watch a movie’ at 9PM. Do I go empty handed?I'd bring something small to eat, like snacks (potato chips, pop-corn, etc.), or if you are feeling fancy, I'd get something from a bakery like a pie. It's probably a regional thing, but where I live it is customary to bring a gift/food when going to someone else's place for the first time. You don't have to bring something again if it's not a special occasion of course. Just the first time. Movie snacks sound awesome and thoughtful either if you watch a movie or not | /r/seduction | 02/07/21 09:22 AM |
| 1 | Physical Appearance Alterations: Cheating to win - Lets discussI can't really tell you for sure because all these changes were compound for me. Looking back at pictures of me, probably the biggest change was the eye surgery and ditching my glasses which made me too nerdy and unable to wear proper sunglasses. Other than that, improving my style and going from plain/casual/comfy to more formal, well-fitting and even a bit beyond that to flashy or to what an artist would wear. Nowadays, if a piece of clothing costs me more than 30$, I'll take it to the tailor … | /r/TheRedPill | 01/07/21 09:12 AM |
| 2 | Rejection depressionIf you feel that your life right now is a bit messy and depression is affecting other parts of your life as well (family, friends, job), you'll need a more holistic approach. Therapy can help by helping you identify these depression cycles, but still you'll have to be the one to break them. This can take time (months/years), but will eventually improve the quality of your life overall if you are willing to put the effort. Otherwise, if your issue is only about handling rejection, then therapy ma… | /r/seduction | 28/06/21 07:40 AM |
| 3 | Rejection depressionYes, what others say actually. You have to break out of that circle manually. Think about it as a train going round and round on a circular track (that's depression). You'll have to introduce some disturbance to make the train derail. You can't wait to feel better. You have to act now! Maybe a professional can help, but you have to be clear about the help you want. How am I suddenly suppose to feel happy? You don't suddenly become happy. You feel the pain and sadness like everyone else. You just… | /r/seduction | 28/06/21 05:06 AM |
| 1 | I hate the fact that men have to play games with women to get them interested. It's so exhaustingYou are not wrong, but you are getting too upset over it. This is reddit. Everyone says what he/she wants. The way reddit karma works is silently enforcing communities to be echo chambers. For example, I feel that r/seduction is too politically-correct nowadays (I'm pretty much upset because of the opposite reason you are). In any case, if you feel that you can give men advice which are better and will be more effective than what seddit "bros" talk about, then, by all means, please do. Anything … | /r/seduction | 27/06/21 06:27 PM |
| 2 | I hate the fact that men have to play games with women to get them interested. It's so exhaustingI think you got it a bit wrong. Seduction is not about "pretending", nor it is "playing around" her games/shit-tests. It is about ways to enable you to decisively and clearly handle situations as a Man. You don't HAVE to play games. You don't HAVE to pretend about anything. Keep in mind 2 things: Clearly express your interest and take the lead to any interaction. You are the man. You show that you like her, you ask her out, kiss her, etc. If she keeps playing games around you with your friends, … | /r/seduction | 27/06/21 11:24 AM |
| 1 | As a man are low body counts attractive to you?Personal opinion here. If she's a hot girl (I know that "hotness" is subjective, but I'm talking about girls who are objectively sexy and hot, not only cute/good-looking), then I'm subconsciously "expecting" high body count, so it does not really bother me. If she ain't that hot, then high body count is quite negative for me. I don't know if I can explain it better, but average or below average girls with high body counts will usually mean that they need to put out a lot more sluttiness to get s… | /r/seduction | 25/06/21 02:30 PM |
| 1 | Did I accidentally end up friend zoning myself? Or can I save thisShe double- and triple-checks that you WON'T be making a move with her. She is not attracted to you. End of story. Move on. p.s. you could have saved yourself A LOT of time and trouble by just making a move on the first date you went with her (I don't necessarily mean making out or fuck, but at least clearly state that you like her as a woman, rather than as a friend). So keep that in mind with your future dates. | /r/seduction | 23/06/21 09:07 AM |
| 2 | Should you avoid hitting on someone while they’re working?IMHO, The girl was probably doing her job, being social/nice and trying to sell you clothes and make you go there again, rather than flirt with you. HOWEVER, that doesn't mean that you should not tell her that you like her and you'd like to meet her again if you feel like it. Your friend is not entirely false. The girl might indeed feel obliged to give you her number or say yes if you ask her out in context of her work description (it's hard for me to see workplaces enforcing or mandating such b… | /r/seduction | 23/06/21 08:55 AM |
| 1 | Is It Normal For Some Women To Be Mean When You Approach?It's not normal, but it's not your fault. They may not be socially calibrated, or simply they had a bad day. Normal people are not rude to strangers right off the bat | /r/seduction | 17/06/21 11:59 PM |
| 2 | Here are 4 self improvement goals that truly changed my life and some advice for youWhat's your opinion in building a good body if your body is notoriously handicapped to begin with? Like I see little difference in having few extra pounds muscle if you are really short or disfigured. Or if you are hard to gain lean muscle without getting skinnyfat, maybe the effort outweights the pros. I don't mean to emcourage letting loose of your body completelly, but my view is that sometimes, going beyond "making sensible nutritional choices and walking mile each day" is not worth it if yo… | /r/TheRedPill | 06/06/21 03:49 PM |
| 3 | At what point when you're "seeing someone" does it become unethical to continue sleeping with other women?The rule of thumb is: "When it starts bothering you, bring it up yourself and see where both of you stand". Since you are making this post, this matter is clearly starting to bother you. So bring this up and ask how does she feel about it. If you both feel keeping it casual and that's fine to see other people, by all means, continue with your current deal. Sometimes, depending on each person's values and character, as well as cultural parameters, exclusivity is implied e.g. after you kiss or e.g… | /r/seduction | 06/06/21 09:31 AM |
| 2 | What does it mean?Yeah, that's mixed signals. Several things could have triggered them which may or may not have to do with you (but chances are you'll never know or you'll never get an honest reply). She seemed very excited at first and that's good, but after the date her feelings changed. She was not that excited any more, and she felt like toning-back your expectations as well. One question though. You said you already went out, what 1 or 2 times already. Did you do anything intimate? Did you go out as platoni… | /r/seduction | 04/06/21 01:54 PM |
| -1 | To me, it feels like I can only approach a girl if we meet in a place where that's "socially acceptable", be it at a bar, work or school. How do you approach a girl who's just trying to mind her own business that you met at some random coffee shop?look, I'm only saying that nothing terrible happened, and with many of them, I could carry out a conversation after that no problem. I know interrupting someone's phone call is an extreme case of intrusion and it's very difficult to turn out positively of course! By no means I want to urge people to interrupt others talking on their phones. I brought it up as an example to highlight that with proper introductions (social skills, appearance, smile, etc.) some people (more than we think) will be O… | /r/seduction | 02/06/21 07:44 AM |
| 5 | To me, it feels like I can only approach a girl if we meet in a place where that's "socially acceptable", be it at a bar, work or school. How do you approach a girl who's just trying to mind her own business that you met at some random coffee shop?"socially acceptable" is in your head. It means you have been conditioned to think so. You could also say that many girls in clubs are there to dance and mind their own business and not there to be approached. Take it the other way around: You are getting coffee, and a girl you've never seen before comes up to you with a cute smile and introduces herself in a pleasant manner, you chat a bit and she suggests that you should meet again sometime because obviously you are both busy right now. Would … | /r/seduction | 02/06/21 07:14 AM |
| 3 | To me, it feels like I can only approach a girl if we meet in a place where that's "socially acceptable", be it at a bar, work or school. How do you approach a girl who's just trying to mind her own business that you met at some random coffee shop?I've approached several girls who were talking to their phone and asked them to turn it off so I can tell them something important (that I saw them and I liked them and wanted to introduce myself)... Most of them were pleasently surprised and carried out some kind of conversations, while others were a bit defensive and thought I was trying to sell them something. None, I repeat, NONE of them reacted negatively like curse me, fight me or run away. So, if I can do that to people on their phone, yo… | /r/seduction | 02/06/21 07:03 AM |
| 1 | I'd appreciate some feedback on that topic. I'm getting the result that I want but I don't like the way I'm getting it.I don't clearly get if this is a bad or good thing. It depends both on your outer image and also on the types of girls you are trying to get with. For example, it is easy to see how if you are a good-looking guy, acting emotionless, selfish and mysterious, can get you good results. On the other hand, you might be targeting girls (e.g. popular) who selfish and emotionless too, and they might get triggered (positively) by meeting someone like yourself. IF you want to test that theory, try to broad… | /r/seduction | 30/05/21 04:45 PM |
| 2 | The number one trait you need to get laid.I truly think that the best course of action for you right now is to mingle as much as you can with mixed social groups (guys and girls). Try to constantly expose yourself to how western culture treats same- or opposite-sex interactions. Try to talk to as many people as possible, hang out with them, etc. Watch how other guys treat girls. Learn by experience what's normal and what's not. What makes her laugh and what makes her smirk. Then, try doing it yourself, talk, talk, talk, then go to some … | /r/seduction | 25/05/21 09:27 AM |
| 9 | Guaranteed way to know if a girl wants to be ApproachedI don't get it. You signal her somehow to make eye contact? Or you just stare at her until she does? Or is all this for after you said "hi"? What about if she is focused on something besides exchanging looks with strangers, like, she is grocery shopping or reading a book? I dunno. Maybe seeing a stranger standing 5 feet from her, looking at her and grinning sounds a bit creepy to me. Judging from my statistics (and the statistics of friends), literally no girl ever made eye contact with me and s… | /r/seduction | 24/05/21 07:39 AM |
| 2 | The number one trait you need to get laid.Do you think Mystery Method is relevant for the next few years, 2021 onwards ? does this [Mark Mason's "Models"] help overcome my limiting beliefs ? Short answer: yes However, keep in mind that these are only books and can take you only so far. I mean, they are great for what they are, but if you want to make progress, the single most important factor is how much effort you put in yourself. Seen your other comments, IMHO you have 2 real options: Either you try to find a partner from your culture… | /r/seduction | 23/05/21 07:31 PM |
| 10 | The number one trait you need to get laid.Mystery Method. Simple effective and super-comprehensive, almost chewed food to get laid. Mark Mason's "Models" for sexually connecting with women in general I don't know how people miss those, or they still need a better guide. | /r/seduction | 22/05/21 08:03 AM |
| 6 | Caffeine, Alcohol, and Porn: some of the most detrimental contributors to social anxiety are also the most accepted by societyThis is an edge/abnormal case and it cannot directly be linked to OP's post | /r/seduction | 17/05/21 06:50 AM |
| 7 | Hour of power: a morning routine that leaves you feeling like a king for the rest of the dayWhat sub is this? | /r/seduction | 13/05/21 09:13 PM |
| 1 | I keep accidentally friendzoning girls and I don't know how to stop?When I started learning guitar, I used to grab the guitar neck in a certain way it felt most comfortable. Soon however, the teacher noticed and pointed out that I should have a certain angled grip that felt unatural and relative uncomfortable. Teacher explained that this was the "correct" way because, even though what I had been doing was more comfortable and served better for fingering simple notes, the "correct" way was the best all around for moving fast between notes and fingering most chord… | /r/seduction | 10/05/21 09:49 AM |
| 1 | I keep accidentally friendzoning girls and I don't know how to stop?It's not common knowledge you are taught at school obviously. But this is r/seduction and it is filled with a ton of resources about that stuff. Do your search. Another PUA term for touching is "kino escalation". It is called "escalation" because there are several progressive steps so that you avoid feeling like walking blindly on knife's edge. | /r/seduction | 10/05/21 07:37 AM |
| 1 | I keep accidentally friendzoning girls and I don't know how to stop?I doubt their answers will be any helpful. | /r/seduction | 08/05/21 02:27 PM |
| 80 | I keep accidentally friendzoning girls and I don't know how to stop?When I want to be friends with a girl, I'm just the friendly non-threatening nice guy. When I'm interested in her, I tell her that I like her, and/or sexually tease her, and ask her out (ideally very soon from meeting her so she doesn't get the wrong idea). Simple as that | /r/seduction | 08/05/21 02:23 PM |
| 0 | Therapy is super underrated for seductionIt is underrated because it is not directly related but only indirectly. If you have some psychological issues which are severely interfering with your life (not only seduction but all areas), yes, by all means, prioritize getting therapy. Also, IMO, Therapy is important for everyone nowadays as modern life can get pretty complex emotionally. Having said that, and provided you don't have any serious issues, the best way to get better with women is to get help from someone who specializes in that… | /r/seduction | 07/05/21 09:41 PM |
| 11 | A bit of a reality checkFlirting is one of the most complex human interaction. It is not as simple as "just go outside and talk to people". Flirting is many times more complex than, say, asking for the time. Maybe you could become better at flirting by becoming more social and thus by going outside and talking more, but this is just one aspect of them all. It is like going to university and asking the guys there "Hey! why do you need to study physics? It's simply water! see! leave it outside in winter and it freezes, l… | /r/seduction | 04/05/21 12:57 PM |
| 2 | I want to learnYou are middle-upper class. Laser eye surgery and braces are relatively inexpensive and will go a long way improving your looks and confidence. Dick can also be fixed with surgery or medication. That ab scar story is gonna be more powerful than any abs. I trust that you are already dressing well. Getting orthopedic shoe bottoms to give you 3-5 more cm can also help a lot About the approach, getting ripped is a noble goal if you want to take that path, but in terms of girls I can tell you that yo… | /r/TheRedPill | 02/05/21 07:21 AM |
| 2 | Some of you are lameIt depends on the audience. My comment was about the fact that it is becoming the norm for ALL guys especially beginners. In my experience (I've been friends with guys who have a reputable coaching academy in my city and I've seen hundreds of guys who end up there), most people are actually doing good enough in their life to have a GF. However, everyone is comparing themselves with instagram these days (which is essentially the one serving "fake" role models), and train themselves to think that … | /r/seduction | 28/04/21 03:13 PM |
| 1 | Some of you are lameI mean that many people are essentially advising that "you should stop pushing yourself to do cold approaches or otherwise practicing seduction, and instead focus on building a career, going to the gym and developing interesting hobbies" which is terrible advice for people who are "Nice Guys", are super-shy, never had a relationship/sex and/or just short-circuit when talking to a girl. | /r/seduction | 28/04/21 02:59 PM |
| 28 | Some of you are lameI personally hate it that some topics develop so much of an echo chamber of shit like "work on yourself and women will come" mentality. Dude! if your problem is meeting girls and flirting with them, then work on that instead of transforming into an antisocial gym junkie. It is like having a kid post "Hey! I'm trying to learn to play the cello and today I had my first public appearance, it went OK, but I could improve a lot". and the top comments are like "Congrats bro. Do pull-ups. Better grip s… | /r/seduction | 27/04/21 12:59 PM |
| 1 | If there is one thing that would attract you the most about a woman, what would it be?It is "safer" because it indicates lack of options | /r/seduction | 24/04/21 11:29 PM |
| 2 | She now puts effort to try to talk to me.At those times when Im not talking to her I just build my self up. Hit the Gym, do running outside, reading books and watch movies doing all that is great, but you should be also talking to other girls! Oddly enough, that's the most effective way to get her. And it is the only way to build up your flirting skills. Gym won't do that for you unfortunately. think it is really true ones you stop giving effort they will notice It depends. Do they miss "you" or do they miss "your validation"? Anyway. … | /r/seduction | 15/04/21 07:39 AM |
| 3 | Speaking as a woman - Don’t forget you’re always coming off as horny.First, remember that this is advice from a woman. That this means that this "advice" is what she "thinks" will work for her (and probably her friends), but it is very difficult to extrapolate on a statistically significant portion of women (which is the point when trying to create as many "opportunities" as possible). Second, the point of learning seduction is exactly that: Finding ways (that work on as many women as possible) to overcome the girl's defense mechanisms (including the mechanism to… | /r/seduction | 13/04/21 06:43 AM |
| -1 | The total lack of parenting in dating.It's not as simple as that. It has to do with genetics and emotions. For once, the bozo may be indeed genetically superior. On the other hand, attraction is first and foremost emotional, so the relationship has to have thrill and excitement. The "nice guy" is probably boring as hell, or is simply bad at eliciting attraction (not to say that being "nice" is bad). | /r/seduction | 18/03/21 07:37 PM |
| 47 | The total lack of parenting in dating.I were more or less on the same boat as you. Very late bloomer. My parents were also more-or-less providers but they supported me as much as they could both materially and emotionally. They didn't pressure me to date or have relationships, but on the other hand, I never talked to them about that stuff either, so I am on equal blame here. I'm sure if I did talk to them, they'd try their best to help, but in their own way. This could range from offering to take me to therapy (which I never did and… | /r/seduction | 18/03/21 09:55 AM |
| 1 | Sanity checkThe point of asking for your IG is most probably that she wants to profile you. It is very common and almost everyone does it consciously or subconsciously. She can see all your pictures and story highlights (even the ones you don't share on Tinder), so she can get a better picture of your appearance and attractiveness, see the people you hang out with, your activities, the number (and sex) of your followers, how active you are, etc. All these help her form a better picture of you before meeting… | /r/seduction | 16/03/21 09:36 AM |
| 3 | Sanity checkYes, but do text them few hours before to confirm. | /r/seduction | 16/03/21 09:21 AM |
| 1 | 5 Hard truths I’ve learned about game after 13 years of practice.wow. I can't even begin to imagine how many hot guys you would have gotten if you went that way | /r/seduction | 04/03/21 11:19 AM |
| 2 | 5 Hard truths I’ve learned about game after 13 years of practice.Wow nice post dude. We rarely see stuff like that here. On bootcamps, I saw severely introverted people with no social skills getting FAR better results than very charismatic, extroverted dudes who were unattractive. Girls were just ultra receptive to the very good looking dudes. I experienced this as well. I (32M) took a bootcamp and matched me with another dude (23M) so we approached either together or in alternating order. The other dude was younger, cleaner face and a bit taller than me. We … | /r/seduction | 04/03/21 11:06 AM |
| 1 | Blew it.OK, let me get this straight. You meet a girl on Tinder (mostly a hookup app), and instead of asking her out, you decide that it's better to chat multiple times for a good bunch of hours each time with someone you've never met in RL. If that still doesn't sound like a bad idea, here are some more points: If she's at least a bit cute, she's gonna have 1000 other guys trying to chat with her as well. Messaging or talking over the phone is safe but boring If chatting does not involve any sexual stu… | /r/seduction | 03/03/21 01:32 PM |
| 0 | Blew it.We even had several 2+ hour conversations lasting until midnight Why would anyone ever think that's a good idea? | /r/seduction | 03/03/21 08:45 AM |
| 1 | Why do some guys seem “invisible” to women whilst others seem to magnetise them?IMO you are getting focused on individual interactions (but it's normal). E.g. when a girl you find attractive gravitates towards you for quite some time, you feel it's the day you are a "magnet", even though the other day 3 girls you didn't like tried to flirt with you, but you were too "down" to notice. Externally however, as others have noted, everything boils down to 3 things: what vibe you give the girl's preferences what what finds attractive a random factor (which could also be incorporat… | /r/seduction | 02/03/21 12:37 PM |
| 4 | Why are all the posts in this sub just text threads from random people?What makes other people legit? A published book? A youtube channel? A dating academy? Even RSD had theories around their brand for being phony. Also, reading through a cool post only to find some self-promoting link in the end is frustrating AF | /r/seduction | 23/02/21 06:48 AM |
| 1 | The number one thing that women are attracted to that no one talks about, and very little guys pay attention to.In my experience: you talk to a girl, she's hooked, you start dating, you give her good orgasms, you get along well. Slowly, she finds out that you are dependable, you are true to your word, you are not some psycho who plays with her emotions like a roller-coaster, you are financially independent (and potentially able to provide for her), etc. So she starts to think "hey, he is a fun guy. I'm having a good time with him. It's a good idea to stay around", and naturally, she wants an LTR, exclusiv… | /r/seduction | 19/02/21 03:51 PM |
| 4 | The number one thing that women are attracted to that no one talks about, and very little guys pay attention to.Don't try to reverse the logic. Correlation does not imply causation. Are you able/confident to sexually attract men? If yes, then "not one man wants me" means that none of your sexual partners wants to stay with you long term? If so, comfort and safety is actually good ingredients for an LTR, but there is a myriad more parameters that may drive people away. | /r/seduction | 19/02/21 03:45 PM |
| 10 | The number one thing that women are attracted to that no one talks about, and very little guys pay attention to.Comfort plays a role only AFTER sexual attraction has been established and it actually plays a role only in LTR context. It is important indeed, but bare in mind that there is a fine line between comfort/safety and boredom. Having a stable job, some money on the side and having your shit together some times (I'd dare to say most times), means that you are leading a relatively boring life. As others commenters say, predictability kills attraction and does not reinforces it. More often than not, t… | /r/seduction | 19/02/21 11:34 AM |
| 1 | Do I sit in front or next to her on the first date?https://imgur.com/a/TiAfnfM | /r/seduction | 18/02/21 11:51 AM |
| 0 | Do I sit in front or next to her on the first date?Best is in a 90-degree angle (like she sits North and you sit either East or West) The point is to be close to her, but not put any barrier between you, so you are able to talk to her without shouting, whisper to her ear, touch her hair, brush her shoulder, touch her hand, or even kiss her. Having to get up from your seat, walk around the table and crouch next to her in order to give her a kiss is uncomfortable AF (trust me). Do you feel uncomfortable sitting next to one of your buddies? I guess… | /r/seduction | 18/02/21 11:16 AM |
| 3 | Probably the best cheat code I've ever foundCheat code: You can do whatever you want with her if you speak a little Spanish. I've been around non-native dance clubs (I mean latin dancing clubs not situated in places with high latino population), and all girls (even the bartenders) will go apeshit if a well-dressed latino-looking guy who knows how to dance enters the dance-floor (even a 5'5"). I guess it's similar to what OP is saying | /r/seduction | 18/02/21 08:03 AM |
| 1 | The reason that HUMOR is super attractiveNo need to go into too much analysis. For me, humor is basically about 1. Having fun and 2. intelligence , both of which are very raw attraction switches | /r/seduction | 31/01/21 08:37 AM |
| 1 | There is no 10 scale -- nobody is a 9/10 or a 3/10 or anything elseSome of the other reasons I don't find the number scale helpful is that dudes massively inflate them. Like I have spent a good amount of time around various communities and nobody ever really goes below a "7". Part of honest feedback involves honest info. Saying you thought she was cute is also relative, and subjective. I lolled, but nonetheless agree with that :) | /r/seduction | 28/01/21 02:17 PM |
| 1 | There is no 10 scale -- nobody is a 9/10 or a 3/10 or anything elseWell, I agree that ratings are subjective, but it's a big thing to say that they are useless. Maybe some people are just not so good/experienced at making these "subjective guesses". The most profound examples is the trouble men have when they are trying to communicate to women about, e.g. the "rating" of a girl they met (and vice versa). But the statistics are still there. Having said that, I also find the 1-10 scale pretty useful in order to communicate, e.g. some observation very quickly with… | /r/seduction | 28/01/21 10:40 AM |
| 2 | There is no 10 scale -- nobody is a 9/10 or a 3/10 or anything elseI guess your point is that a 9/10 for one person is a 6/10 for another. Which is true. Or that a person one night is a 9 and another night is a 6. Which is also true. Ratings can change, as well as binary choices (0 or 1). They are all subjective if that's what you mean and I agree. However, a scale that is not subjective is, for example, the ratio of the general population that they are 1 or 0 for a given person. E.g. take 100 people as random as possible and ask them to say "0" or "1" for a gi… | /r/seduction | 27/01/21 01:55 PM |
| 3 | What to talk about with someone you’re aiming to date long term?Yeah, that's solid, but why is this a different approach than when approaching a girl in a more casual manner? | /r/seduction | 20/01/21 06:25 PM |
| 1 | What to talk about with someone you’re aiming to date long term?But if you’re taking it slow or building rapport with someone you see once a week or something If you are already sleeping with them, then you can move to more personal stuff, like things you wouldn't share easily with strangers. But anyway, it's a fallacy to think you need different tactics. Seduction is all about presenting the best version of yourself, whatever that may be. If crazy travel and partying IS your thing, then talk about those. In any case, you wouldn't want to start something bas… | /r/seduction | 20/01/21 06:23 PM |
| 3 | Do NOT tell frustrated young men to "be nice." It creates incels.My country is notorious for overprotective parents. Kids (including sons) usually stay at their parents house until they get married, which in many cases may be over 30yo. Consequently, we are teaming with "nice guys". There is a saying that captures this very nicely: "The mother raises a son who she would never want as a husband" | /r/seduction | 06/01/21 06:58 PM |
| 0 | My top 12 guides I’ve found from Reddit last year to improve faster & attract more girls (2020)Hey, thanks for your work. How did you end up on the top 12? Just to be clear, this is just your personal preference. Did those guides make most sense to you or resonate with you better as you read them, or have you tried and tested the advice and found them to be more effective in comparison with other guides? Just curious. Or it was some other criterion? Also, did you use other resources? Like books bootcamps or coaches? How do these compare? | /r/seduction | 05/01/21 05:58 PM |
| 1 | The Best Thing to Do for Your Dating Life is Probably Leave This Subreddit (An Oxymoronic Guide)Turing Test, as proposed by the computer scientist Alan Turing, is a test where a person is placed in a room and in another room a machine/computer/robot is placed. The two can communicate via text and/or voice. The person's job is to understand, through this communication, if in the other room is a machine or another human. Turing suggests that, no matter how long it takes, if the person (tester) cannot discern if the other end of the line is a robot or human, the machine is said to pass the Tu… | /r/seduction | 31/12/20 08:47 AM |
| 39 | The Best Thing to Do for Your Dating Life is Probably Leave This Subreddit (An Oxymoronic Guide)While I get the point of your post and I wholeheartedly agree that this forum or most internet resources which are geared towards a wide range of audience instead of personalized help, maybe are doing more harm than good in the long run, I still disagree with this part: Seduction is dead I don't know what part of seduction you are referring to. If it's canned or phony lines, sure, it always was. However, the fundamentals of seduction will die when the last woman is no more. And that is because t… | /r/seduction | 30/12/20 09:40 AM |
| 1 | Don’t underestimate the power of building a strong narrative with somebody...It's overlooked because in the vast majority of the cases, it comes and evolves naturally anyway. And you can't do much about it. And it's evolution depends on the partners as well the timing of everything. A witty inside joke said today might burn like hot iron on your brain, but can go by with just a smirk if said tomorrow instead. Same with a walk at the beach, a road-trip, a story In any case, I support that you can't do much about narrative, and it's also quite useless as a sticky-point in … | /r/seduction | 23/12/20 04:27 PM |
| 1 | Why “nice guys finish last”IMHO, everything boils down to the fact that some people are more willing and capable of creating opportunities for themselves than others. Nice guys are not very good at it. They are brought up in a a more "passive" manner, thinking that opportunities will come to them if they are nice enough. And it does work for some things (especially if you are younger), but not for everything. Hence they may be very good at what they do and be respected and loved by their family and friends, but in the mea… | /r/seduction | 23/12/20 11:55 AM |
| 1 | Don’t underestimate the power of building a strong narrative with somebody...In my opinion and in my (relatively limited) experience, narrative is there only for support. It has no substance in itself. I've seen relationships fall apart very easily despite a strong narrative, but also people who maintain good and long relationships despite the lack of "memorable moments". It has to do with where you put your attention. A strong memorable experience may be a long road-trip for one person, but for another may be a witty inside-joke that popped up super-randomly. Effort doe… | /r/seduction | 23/12/20 11:48 AM |
| 2 | The play of alcohol, nicotine, and drugs in gameIf you think alcohol or nicotine is cheating, wait to try coke. Yes, coke is cheating IMO. It's day and night. It will fuck you up though. There are more drugs nowadays as well which have varying effects on charisma/confidence/inhibitions/mood/etc. but most of them are not safe either. If the girl is the one who is drunk on the other hand, that's another story. Keep in mind that it also depends on what you call "game". If your objective is to go out one night, have fun and end up in a hotel room… | /r/seduction | 22/12/20 09:19 AM |
| 1 | About to be a 24 year old virgin in January... but I am retarded... | /r/seduction | 21/12/20 02:36 PM |
| -1 | About to be a 24 year old virgin in JanuaryQuick answer is that you don't want it enough yet, and that you are far too settled in your own loneliness and comfort zone. I find it difficult to believe that you don't come across any girl that would interest you during your week. If you do, why not just talk to them? If you can't even do that, it shows how settled you are. Simple as that | /r/seduction | 21/12/20 09:27 AM |
| 5 | About to be a 24 year old virgin in JanuaryJust curious, what makes you think that is something other people want of him? It could very well be his own will. | /r/seduction | 21/12/20 09:24 AM |
| 1 | Why do girls become disinterested in me after first date?Well, if you meet them over dating apps, then you are pretty much set. You can simply be direct about it, like asking her what she's looking for. Is it for something serious, or simply to have fun, or just to meet new people? Then tell her what you are looking for yourself (even if it does not match with hers). If you'd still be interested in meeting up, let her know. E.g. if you are looking for fun but she is looking only for friends I'd tell her something like "You seem like an interesting per… | /r/seduction | 09/12/20 07:33 AM |
| 1 | Why do girls become disinterested in me after first date?Look man. If a girl knows you are from a specific ethnicity and still agrees to go on a date with you, it's game. Don't feel bad about it. There is no reason to feel insecure about your accent, or your looks, etc. My experience with girls becoming disinterested on first dates are for only 3 reasons (but, mind you, I don't have experience with dating apps. I met all of them in person beforehand): They were not interested on the first place. e.g. they were just going on a date so they could get ba… | /r/seduction | 07/12/20 01:17 PM |
| 26 | Why do girls become disinterested in me after first date?No reason to over-complicate things. If a girl is interested, she WILL be eager to talk to you and see you again. Period! If she went on a date with you and THEN she didn't want to talk to you, it means that her interest plummeted during the date. So it's up to you to look into what you did wrong. Yes, if you used to be pushy and too clingy/attached, then dialing this back a bit, will give you better results. But it is only one of the many things that you/OP could be doing wrong. And that's the … | /r/seduction | 07/12/20 01:03 PM |
| 24 | There is no competitionI beg to disagree. For me it made huge difference. When you come from a point of a kissless virgin, it is a HUGE feeling of fulfilment to finally be able to get a girl to like you and actually enjoy having sex with you. On the other hand, if you get female validation and sex regularly, true, just another girl is no big deal and can only do so much for you confidence | /r/seduction | 28/11/20 04:45 PM |
| 3 | Make careers plan and work on your life before actively search for a partnerMake careers plan and work on your life while actively search for a partner Balance is key. Of course, don't be a lazy-ass all day, but also don't postpone meeting people and flirting while you "grind" on life until you "feel ready" (tip, you never will). Also, I'd go as far as to suggest that approaching and flirting will build you skills that can help you with other aspects of your life, like your career-building. | /r/seduction | 27/11/20 11:03 AM |
| 38 | Anyone here try getting professional photos taken for Tinder/dating apps?I LOLed way to hard on this. The very existence of the species is dependent on successfully dating and having sex. So I guess spending 3-5 hours a week to, I don't know, learn to play the guitar is fine, but spending just 1 afternoon making yourself more desirable and increase your chances of mating is too much work. I'd argue that spending an afternoon doing this is quite as effective as spending the same amount of time doing cold-approaches. | /r/seduction | 25/11/20 09:35 AM |
| 13 | Anyone here try getting professional photos taken for Tinder/dating apps?Get a tall adjustable tripod. May be cumbersome and quite expensive, but it is the next best thing and you can use it as much as you like (contrary to a friend who won't be always available). Otherwise, a long selfie stick can work too, however you won't be able to take full-body shots. | /r/seduction | 25/11/20 09:27 AM |
| 1 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationshipThank you for your feedback man. I don't really know TBH. I've never seen a psychiatrist or a therapist, and I'm reluctant to self-diagnose anything. I had enrolled in a coaching bootcamp some time ago (It was a bit after that that I got my first relationship). The coaches there told me that me, as with a ton of guys, I was blocking my sexuality and had trouble revealing my sexual intentions from the start which had always led me to start "asexual" interactions and end up into the friendzone. Wo… | /r/seduction | 20/11/20 11:15 PM |
| 19 | Ghosting - why it happens and how to avoid itone more reason: They are scared, confused or generally unable to emotionally handle the situation. For that reason, they'll avoid the "confrontation" in the safest (for them) way possible. They might like you as a friend, but the moment they understand you try to approach her sexually, they'll just short-circuit and will try to find a window out. Actually, only a handful of girls I've known were enough socially-calibrated so as to effectively confront and outright reject men who tried to turn t… | /r/seduction | 20/11/20 05:03 PM |
| 1 | My red flags"if she says all men are trash, then ill just be nice, she'll see!" I never said that. What I wrote does not imply any "fixing" of any sort. I wouldn't be surprised if you were a non-english speaker yourself | /r/seduction | 18/11/20 02:55 PM |
| 0 | My red flags"fix" them how? | /r/seduction | 18/11/20 02:46 PM |
| 0 | My red flagsSerious answer: Both. I am out there to meet women and effectively interact with them so we can both have a good time and take things further. That's the whole point of r/seduction. Furthermore, I can't even imagine having an actual relationship with a girl before I even get my sausage in her first, and see how I like it. Also, I don't *like* girls with daddy or ex-boyfriend issues. I said that such girls are easier to work around than what is portrayed by OP. OP said that it's a red flag for hi… | /r/seduction | 18/11/20 02:22 PM |
| 24 | My red flagsOK, I see many gray points about your post here. They are not necessarily wrong, but these are some comments for your points Daddy Issues / All Men Are Jerks: Too many girls are like that and if you regard this as a deal-breaker, it narrows down your dating pool significantly. On the other hand, I've found that, as an older guy, the more daddy issues a girl has and the most she supports the all-men-(her-age)-are-jerks, the easier it is for me to flirt her because I exactly come to prove her wron… | /r/seduction | 18/11/20 08:45 AM |
| 1 | Older guys, what is some advice you can give to younger guys?If you are at collage or school (generally, a student), try to fuck everything that moves. No remorse, no hard-feelings on yourself, no judging Decide who to marry/LTR after 26+. If you do have an LTR, don't spend your teens and early adult life with one person for more than 1 (at most 2) years. Take care of your body. I don't mean get ripped, but establish healthy eating habits, learn to cook, and pick-up exercising habits that you can and will stick with through your 20's. Chances are that you… | /r/seduction | 09/11/20 07:18 AM |
| 1 | I've been approaching women since 2009 and have yet to have any kind of success, hundreds of approaches later. I feel immense self-hate and need someone to talk to.What do you think is the #1 thing that is holding you back? I don't mean now, I mean throughout the years. You said your friends were more successful than you. Why do you think was that? How do you look like? Do you have any disability, or something that is immediately noticeable? Do you feel like your appearance is sabotaging you more than your mental state? Look, right now, it is clear that your mental situation is getting in the way of functioning properly in your day-to-day life. This is ser… | /r/seduction | 05/11/20 12:57 PM |
| 1 | text adviceFirst and foremost: Ask questions that spark her interest, catch her attention and require high-investment on her part. Expect A LOT MORE investment from your part in early interaction. Expect that you will be carrying the conversation at least 80% of the time (or volume). Expect one-word answers. If she is good-looking/popular, she is used to giving a lot of those. You have to keep pushing until you jump-start a bit more investment from her part. As soon as she does, steer it to man-to-woman. N… | /r/seduction | 01/11/20 09:52 PM |
| 0 | Recovering nice guys: Small acts of self respectMan! as much as I enjoy reading you going forward, I can't help but point out a few things Letting someone else go first is not an act of submission, but an act of kindness and superiority. It makes the other person feel humbled. A true leader tends his flock before himself. What I would do is to not only let them go first, but over-gesture them or say something simple like "No Sir, please, be my guest". This way you are becoming more social and vocal and getting more noticed. This contradicts w… | /r/seduction | 28/10/20 10:29 AM |
| 2 | Maybe you don't really have a problemMaybe few years back I was indeed an AFC. Now I can say I get adequate amounts of sex. On the one hand, yeah I do overthink things, but on the other hand, maybe my brain got me laid after all. Don't get me wrong. I support your point. What I wanted to highlight is that "problems" are not always black-and-white, especially if they are based on actual measurable facts. It's not like that they are either in your brain or they are not. Some of them are very real, but that does not mean that we shoul… | /r/seduction | 27/10/20 09:38 PM |
| 3 | Maybe you don't really have a problemSome "problems" are "problems" no matter how you see them. It does not take a scientist to draw some correlation between "success" and e.g. height or X facial features or disability. These will always matter and, if you are lacking in those areas, you need to either fix them, or accept that they will always be a problem that will come up constantly and thus, inadvertently, narrow down your dating pool. One important step however is to be able to get some objective view on these as it will help i… | /r/seduction | 27/10/20 06:22 PM |
| 3 | Fellas, be careful out there... These women existvery successful pop music artist clearly not successful enough to be asking for a man to buy her stuff and pay her bills | /r/seduction | 23/10/20 11:31 AM |
| 12 | Fellas, be careful out there... These women existNah... She looks exactly like the kind of girl who will obsess over some cool-looking aspiring artist who will promise her that he will be rich next year (and till then they'll live with pocket money from his parents), but in the meanwhile, she will be telling all her friends that "My man is different! He is going to be rich!". Or the kind of girl who will marry a +20yo older guy to get his money, but will go out to fuck guys like said aspiring artist all the time. I mean, yeah, if you are looki… | /r/seduction | 23/10/20 07:29 AM |
| 1 | I might get some hate for this, but I think we have a problem in our sub.This is the classic case of wanting the "Magic Pill". None of the information here is gonna do that for you. The books you refer to are books for a reason. Buy them (give the creator credit), and then sit your ass down and read them. They are not technical or too difficult to digest, and frankly, they are good reads. On the other hand, they won't magically make you attractive either. As for the magic pick-up lines, they are, again, IMO, not too relevant, unless they are given in a context. And I… | /r/seduction | 21/10/20 10:01 AM |
| 0 | What advice can you give to someone who cant even imagine himself datingRead some books or play some video games. They say they help with imagination | /r/seduction | 17/10/20 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Is it possible to be monogamous ? One girl for life?Well, even Brad Pitt dumped Angelina. I personally doubt you will ever find someone who you will feel the same kind of spark as if the first time for 1, 5, or 10 years. All successful long-term relationships are successful not because you get lucky or because you find "the right one", but because you (both) put work and effort into it, working around problems such as logistics, disputes, boredom, routine, dead bedrooms, etc. The PUA resources and tactics are indeed tools you use to build up an i… | /r/seduction | 14/10/20 02:51 PM |
| -1 | Here’s why 90% of girls use dating apps. They are fun, but don’t take them seriously for your own sanity lol.No, not particularly interesting IMHO. It's just anecdotal as to how that particular girl feels and expresses herself. Many or few girls may feel the same, but does it matter in the end? How can you use that information to improve your internet game? I got friends who are using dating apps and are slaying left and right, get girls to hit on them, couple dozen matches per week or so, etc. and they manage to get a decent amount of lays out of them. Then I got friends who get more rare matches and … | /r/seduction | 12/10/20 09:29 PM |
| 4 | Here’s why 90% of girls use dating apps. They are fun, but don’t take them seriously for your own sanity lol.Context? Did you guys go out? You don't know if that's honest or not. Frankly, you shouldn't even care. What that means is that you didn't create enough attraction feelings to her. In other words, she wasn't "swept off her feet". See how she calls you "nice guy" twice? Trust me when I say that if she'd match with someone looking like Jason Momoa, she wouldn't had replied that | /r/seduction | 12/10/20 08:49 PM |
| 2 | Why do girls joke about me being with other girls?"I'm not interested, but I'm trying to give you advice on how to score with other girls". I doubt that's the case, but even if it was, we all know what to do with dating advice coming from girls IMO you are overthinking it. Why does it matter to you what they ment in the end. This could be interpreted in several ways anyway. If they are girls you are interested in, just ask them out to see if they'd like you back that way. Otherwise there is little point asking some 3rd party what that girl mean… | /r/seduction | 11/10/20 03:08 PM |
| 2 | Anyone else here deleted Instagram?Instagram is a tool. Nobody is forcing you to use it of course. On the other hand, because the vast majority is using it (and most girls LOOOOVE it), if you use it correctly, it can become a powerful tool. If you are active and have more than few thousand followers, your profile will stand-out and this gives you social value in the same manner as going into a club and be seen greeting everyone, or in the same manner as wearing stylish clothes. For better or worse, high follower count is recogniz… | /r/seduction | 09/10/20 09:22 AM |
| 2 | How to introduce sex with the girls you meet/date?The times it happened to me, I ask her if she'd like to come home with me to chill. And every time it worked. As others mentioned, be sure to turn her on very well beforehand, e.g. kiss, make-out, maybe some over-the-clothes touching of intimate areas. She should be perfectly receptive to making out and not act reserved. Once at my place, I turn up all the lights, make sure to have all the windows unbarred, I don't lock the door and I ALWAYS tell her if the first time: "Hey, you are first time a… | /r/seduction | 05/10/20 07:59 AM |
| 1 | I'm reading "No more Mr. Nice Guy" and I am deeply offended.Yeah, I didn't say it doesn't. True, at the end of the day most people will tend to "fit the curve", but in the end it's a matter of how you deal with it. This is a sub where people are taught to tackle and/or move on from both internal and external issues which cause them to not do good with the opposite gender. True, some people will need more "flirting training" than others and the reasons for this can be myriads. However the first step before taking action is to acknowledge that you are not … | /r/seduction | 05/10/20 07:47 AM |
| -1 | I'm reading "No more Mr. Nice Guy" and I am deeply offended.Stop playing the victim card. The sole responsible for your situation is you. Your parents didn't stop you from talking to that girl. You did. Models and "the subtle art of not giving a fuck" are must reads. "No more mr nice guy" didnt sit well with me either. And if it makes you throw the blame to others and act like a victim, it's not doing you any good either | /r/seduction | 04/10/20 02:21 PM |
| 2 | What if you’re a social trainwreck?Maybe... so? The alternative is to live as unlikable and uninteresting without any friends for the rest of your days I guess. And when you get to 40, you'd wish you would have at least managed to become a bit more social and interesting in your 30's | /r/seduction | 03/10/20 07:49 AM |
| 5 | If you define success as purely having sex with a girl, you’ll find yourself a failure.Hmmm, I don't think it is a good idea to tell people how to measure their success. It is indeed desirable to have internal rather than external values and validators, but what you define as a success is up to you (as long as you don't hurt other people that is). For example, if you want greater variety in your sexual life, or if you want to learn the proper techniques to create stronger attraction feelings, or simply, if you are a virgin and want to get laid, then all those goals CAN be measured… | /r/seduction | 02/10/20 09:26 PM |
| 8 | What if you’re a social trainwreck?Why do I have such rotten luck with people? Oh man! stop playing the victim card. Shit happens. Deal with it. Maybe my social circle has been so limited because I’m just not a very interesting or likeable person Then become interesting and likeable. If you think so lowly of yourself, no wonder others think even more lowly. We are men. We deal with our problems. We don't go out and create drama out of them. Since I am in a good mood, here is a comprehensive plan of action for you: Step 1: Become … | /r/seduction | 01/10/20 05:40 PM |
| 27 | I caught a girl randomly staring into space. I asked what she was staring at. She smiled and asked me what I was staring at. Is she flirting?She was probably stoned | /r/seduction | 28/09/20 07:02 AM |
| 1 | Do guys like when the woman initiates fwb/casual sex?Don't overthink it. It's simple: If she is someone I could be even borderline sexually attracted to, then yes, that's cool, let's see how it's like to have sex together. I have pretty low standards regarding to who is fuckable anyway (as well as most men I believe). On the other hand, If I am not attracted or can't see her that way, then it would make things a lot awkward. It's a risk we all take. Men for example have to take it maybe hundreds of times in their life | /r/seduction | 22/09/20 10:06 AM |
| 10 | I did my first approach!! WOWIf you're interested, gimme a text If she's interested in what? Did she (and her father) understand that you liked her and you wanted to date her? It's unclear from the convo. What did you say? | /r/seduction | 22/09/20 05:38 AM |
| 2 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationship (Part 2)Thanks for your reply man. Yeah, that's a good question. I had the same kind of confusion about this "paradox". However, I overcame it with 3 realizations: 1) You don't have to demonstrate that you can fuck any woman (that's impossible anyway). You just have to convey that you are perceived positively by women. A girl can see how other girls interact with you. Do you have female friends? do girls enjoy your company or they actively avoid you? Are you a loner who will have a hard time getting soc… | /r/seduction | 21/09/20 12:14 PM |
| 1 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationshipIt's not like 100 years ago men were drowning in sex either. Too many not-so-lucky guys were just left incels or forced to marry whatever scrap was left at the bottom of the dating pool. Nowadays, true, flirting for men has become a lot more difficult within western feminist society, but meanwhile, with proper coaching and guidance, even these men are capable to attain a decent dating value (with the corresponding effort). | /r/seduction | 20/09/20 01:57 PM |
| 13 | Cannot accept the modern dating, oneitis, worst pain of my life.you were not "in love" with her, but rather in-love with the idea of her you constructed in your mind. That's why you were crushed when that idea was torn down. She did nothing wrong. You just had the wrong idea. If you made your intentions clear from the start and put effort into actually getting to know her (her real self), it's likely that you would have understood what type of person she was from the start. No false or imaginary ideals. What you can do now? If you are a virgin or have very l… | /r/seduction | 15/09/20 05:49 PM |
| 1 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationshipI know that many girls will tell you they'd prefer things to go slower, but for me it saved a lot of time (and more importantly, it saved mental energy because I wouldn't go on for weeks or months thinking about a particular girl if she had rejected me right on the first date). There is no magic moment or magic place. That's why we got seduction to create them ourselves. My theory is that, if a girl really likes you, then, coming though as too aggressive will not be a deal-breaker. Even if she r… | /r/seduction | 14/09/20 06:22 AM |
| 1 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationshipWell, no. Teasing by itself isn't flirting. Friend groups may tease each other all the time. Flirting includes making the other party get or entertain the idea that you like them sexually. As to why teasing/negging is used and why it is an effective tool during flirting is a topic of a different post by itself. Teasing won't keep you out of the friendzone. As a matter of fact, it may give her the idea that you are a cool fun guy, fitting for a friend. What keeps you out of the friendzone is maki… | /r/seduction | 13/09/20 02:41 PM |
| 1 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationship (Part 2)I said first time (with any person) is supposed to be awkward because she expects it to be awkward as well. No need to apologize or feel stressed. My first time, I took things VERY slow, did a TON of foreplay, licking and fingering, etc. and then I went in and finished in 5 thrusts. She had already finished before I penetrated her, so she was good. | /r/seduction | 12/09/20 09:21 PM |
| 1 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationship (Part 2)No I didn't tell them at all. Noone explicitly asked or brought it up. But if they did ask, I'd probably tell them. When they asked about my ex's I'd simply tell that I don't like discussing about my past, and left it to that | /r/seduction | 12/09/20 01:56 PM |
| 2 | 𝐁𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐈𝐬 𝐀𝐥𝐥 𝐘𝐨𝐮 𝐍𝐞𝐞𝐝 𝐓𝐨 𝐆𝐞𝐭 𝐋𝐚𝐢𝐝What if your true self is boring as hell and borderline autistic? Like videogames and painting miniatures all day? Tons of guys come up with theory’s on how to attract women. It all comes from a place of low self worth. They don't only come from low self-worth. They mainly come from a place of little to no knowledge on how to flirt. Because noone taught them or they were taught the wrong way, and then they had to learn it the hard way | /r/seduction | 11/09/20 07:56 AM |
| 2 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationship@VDKay Ngl, it's kinda sus that you admit that there's "some merit" in harmful comunnities that say feminism is bad, yet you afirm that taking advice from woman is worthless. 🤨 I don't understand. The affirmation contradicts the sus? or maybe reinforces it? I don't get it. The merit comes from the fact that not 100% of the community is usually toxic and some good views/advice can be extracted on some matters (maybe besides flirting). I have to ask, what advice have the women in your life given y… | /r/seduction | 10/09/20 05:20 PM |
| 1 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationship (Part 2)I'd prefer not to say who exactly I had a bootcamp with. It was a reputable local coach though (non-english-speaking). The bootcamp was about street game around a busy street (essentially day-game). | /r/seduction | 10/09/20 04:18 PM |
| 2 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationship (Part 2)Some girls around the world are probably getting lucky in the next days :) | /r/seduction | 08/09/20 05:28 PM |
| 1 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationshipyes | /r/seduction | 08/09/20 01:00 PM |
| 5 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationship (Part 2)Yes, I know my posts may sound a bit controversial, but it's my own opinions and my own observations. It's not politically-corrected or filtered content. It's just how I feel about it. Well, it may be a cultural thing, but where I live, fewer than 1% of women are actually taking an active part in dating. They'll just "exist" in bars or clubs. The 99% of men will have to get up their ass and approach them. Even within common friends or groups, the women will never make the first move. All I'm say… | /r/seduction | 08/09/20 06:15 AM |
| 2 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationship (Part 2)Oh yes, of course! several times. The journey has many ups and downs, and many more will come. However these feelings you are having are fake. They are a way of coping with the pain. Unless there is something very wrong with your wiring or your hormones (and thus you don't feel sexual urges, etc.), then it's just coping. Sexual urges are as imprinted to our genes as hunger. So it's as ridiculous as saying when you can't access food: "well, I thing maybe food isn't my thing after all!". You don't… | /r/seduction | 08/09/20 06:03 AM |
| 3 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationship (Part 2)Go to www.pornhub.com and search for "g spot squirting 101". Here if someone else is also interested. I also skimmed through the book She Comes First: The Thinking Man’s Guide to Pleasuring a Woman by Ian Kerner recommended by u/onewander and seems pretty solid | /r/seduction | 08/09/20 05:54 AM |
| 3 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationship (Part 2)Thank you! I really appreciate your kind words. Idk man. I try to keep everything on the posts. If more points come up, I'll make sure I add them. You don't have to be super-fun or a clown to attract her. You just have to make the emotional connection. The best "vibe" is confidence and being detached from the outcome. The only thing I guess I needed improving on was my mental block which inhibited me to express my sexual feelings. I was always like the "friend" to girls, and that was because I a… | /r/seduction | 08/09/20 05:48 AM |
| 7 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationship (Part 2)I have. I've been into pick-up and flirting in general since, like 26. Got at 30 still a virgin. Some time after that, I got first time sex with a girl who was pissing me off (probably a pity-fuck, because she promptly moved away afterwards). A year later, still I haven't managed to get a GF, so I joined a coaching bootcamp at 31, and shortly after I got one more ONS and then I met my current GF with whom we clicked. We've been together for like 8 months now. It takes time man. Especially for pe… | /r/seduction | 08/09/20 05:34 AM |
| 4 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationship (Part 2)I am inclined to say that you can dial-back your sexuality if you feel that you are coming through as too aggressive. However, my experience tells me that no matter the culture, the attraction switches for humans are pretty much hard-wired into our genes, so the fundamentals remain the same. You can take it slow, but make sure that you clearly communicate that you like her from the start so you are not "just friends". Look, if you like a girl sexually and you also have a great time when with her… | /r/seduction | 07/09/20 08:56 PM |
| 8 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationship (Part 2)A quickie in exchange for a potentially life changing illness or accidently killing grandma isn't a very attractive deal. Yes, I agree. Stay safe first and foremost. This is going to end soon. Till then, read up books and resources. Also it won't hurt to get a bit flirty with the cute cashier. | /r/seduction | 07/09/20 08:42 PM |
| 4 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationship (Part 2)I've been into seduction and flirting well before that. It takes time | /r/seduction | 07/09/20 08:08 PM |
| 11 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationship (Part 2)It depends on the situation. I've met girls through common friends but mostly through night game. I used to go to dance parties (damn covid!), and approach girls there. Usually go sit with them, introduce myself, get to know them, throw in a few negs, ask them to dance, then move around the venue, talk with another group, then go back to previous group. And at some point I'd say something to bridge to an one-on-one date like "Hey, you are a fun person after all! I'd like to meet you again. Let's… | /r/seduction | 07/09/20 05:37 PM |
| 3 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationship (Part 2)Thanks for sharing! I'll definitely check it out! | /r/seduction | 07/09/20 05:28 PM |
| 1 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationshipCan you provide more information please? | /r/seduction | 07/09/20 02:56 PM |
| 2 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationshipI get the feeling that you know perfectly well what your answer is. And you also know perfectly well what you should do to resolve this "question" once and for all. | /r/seduction | 07/09/20 02:49 PM |
| 2 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationshipNothing wrong about spending time doing things you like. If relationships are not for you at age 20, 30, 40 or more, that's fine. You may prefer just casual sex. It becomes a problem when it starts affecting other aspects of your life or your mental well-being (e.g. you get depressive). So, if you are happy with the way your life is going right now, by all means, keep doing that. | /r/seduction | 07/09/20 02:47 PM |
| 1 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationshipNot entirely true. I'll post an update on that. I did learn a ton about women, and I did learn even more about myself! | /r/seduction | 05/09/20 09:09 PM |
| 1 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationshipBecause flirting is a very advanced form of human interaction. We are not taught about it in schools, and other "sources" tell it very wrong or very inefficiently. Some people are lucky to have friends or family to "guide" them or they are innately talented or they figure it out the hard way. By all means, just give up. Either you are one of the lucky ones and you just do it instinctively, or you are doing everyone else a favor. Flirting is a competitive sport in the grand scheme of things after… | /r/seduction | 05/09/20 09:05 PM |
| 4 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationship"wishing" and "hoping" are verbs of a procrastinator who ends up with nothing "envisioning", "planning" and "acting" will get you results. Trust me, I've been on both ends. | /r/seduction | 05/09/20 08:52 PM |
| 1 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationshipI'll write a follow-up post after the weekend | /r/seduction | 05/09/20 06:32 PM |
| 2 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationshipI'll write a follow-up post about it because many are asking about it. It is not a trivial thing to describe and talk about (especially in a few lines space). I gloss over it because my intention is to give the general mindset for interactions and how they should feel like: Are you just exchanging information or are you delving into experiences and emotions? That's the difference which you should keep in mind. I can give you canned lines, but ultimatelly, it is something that you should find out… | /r/seduction | 05/09/20 06:31 PM |
| 3 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationshipIt sure is. Both the thrill and "adventure" of first-time sex, as well as the deep emotional connection and slow sexual teasing of LTR sex. I am gonna write a follow-up post about it. | /r/seduction | 05/09/20 06:25 PM |
| 11 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationshipYes! This is a valid clarification. This is essentially what I wanted to say. Showing interest like "Hey, I like you, I think you are sexy and I want to get to know you better" is what I mean, and it is a straightforward and honest. Confessing your undying love to somebody you barely know is not only dishonest but also creepy and shows poor social calibration. Thank you for pointing this out! | /r/seduction | 05/09/20 06:21 PM |
| 2 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationshipProbably they do. I don't know. The point is that it is possible to attract girls without flashy cars, money or hobbies. Oh, and you also don't really know how depressed a successful 30yo virgin can get! | /r/seduction | 05/09/20 05:49 PM |
| 1 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationshipThen by all means keep doing that! 😂😂 | /r/seduction | 05/09/20 05:46 PM |
| 2 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationshipYou are not less of a man or a loser! Everybody is different and moves at different speeds. As long as you are putting honest and active effort in the directions you want to improve, there is no reason to feel bad about it. If you are not getting progress, maybe you are doing something wrong and you could ask for help. But in the end, there is nothing to be gained by brooding over the past . I will make another post about the emotional-vs-logical connection because it's what many people are as… | /r/seduction | 05/09/20 10:45 AM |
| 1 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationshipAnd how is that working for you? | /r/seduction | 05/09/20 08:04 AM |
| 1 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationshiphow do you know it's "honest"? And aside from that, if you want to get practical insight, don't listen. Just watch how she reacts (short and long-term) to different guys approaching her. | /r/seduction | 05/09/20 08:04 AM |
| 3 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationshiphttps://www.reddit.com/r/Tinder/comments/ime9cp/got_2_matches_within_2_hours_and_2_first_texts/ | /r/seduction | 04/09/20 03:40 PM |
| 16 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationshipWell, yes, of course you need to feel good about yourself first and foremost. But let's be honest, does the lack of a flashy car or the 6-pack abs hold you back? This is more of an inner game issue. Additionally, there is a fine line between confidence and arrogance. I've met not a few people who were really confident about themselves, had a good job, all day grinding in the gym, etc. and they did indeed think highly about themselves. However, they literally sucked talking to women, and girls ac… | /r/seduction | 04/09/20 03:37 PM |
| 27 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationshipGood job man on getting progress! I'd suggest you get a social hobby. Like a sport or improv class or something. And talk to people there as much as you can and apply everything you learn. | /r/seduction | 04/09/20 01:41 PM |
| 7 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationshipSocial hobbies and common friends. To be honest, while I did have my share of day-game, I've never actually gotten a date that way. I may had if I invested more time though, so Im not dismissing it as a form of meeting women. The girls I dated were actually from cold-approaching within the setting of a social hobby (dancing) and warm approaches through common friends. | /r/seduction | 04/09/20 01:35 PM |
| 7 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationshipI got Tinder for about a year and all I got were 3 bots and 2 real matches who ghosted me (even one bot ghosted me). | /r/seduction | 04/09/20 12:52 PM |
| 3 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationshipNah, that's too specific. I am generally talking about unpleasant situations which lead some of them to adopt an "all boys are the same" attitude and raise strong emotional walls, especially girls who have been with a *small* statistical sample of boys (quite paradoxically). | /r/seduction | 04/09/20 12:49 PM |
| 3 | Guys I fucking did it.OK, but what did you DO? | /r/seduction | 03/09/20 08:25 PM |
| -2 | I thought this was very interesting. Wdy think?Translation: That particular girl (and probably her 3-4 close friends who she talked about it) feel that the reason of friendzone is because girls (she and the 3-4 friends) open up emotionally to anyone, and that seems to lead people on. While this may or may not be entirely true, this is a concept that statistically applies to very small sample of girls. IMHO (and I believe I've talked to more than 3-4 girls), the actual reason guys get into the friendzone is because they approach a girl in a n… | /r/seduction | 31/08/20 07:41 AM |
| 1 | How to socialize when you only know one person in a group and they all know each other well?Ask.a.TON.of.Questions. You can disregard a bit your friend and focus on the others. You don't know them so that's a perfect opportunity to get to know them more. Pretty much what you would do if you opened a mixed set. What each of them does How they know each other What are their hobbies or music they like, etc. If/Where they went for vacation (or where would they have gone if not of pandemic) Where do they go out, or if they have a favorite place that they usually go (and maybe if they'd invi… | /r/seduction | 26/08/20 09:48 PM |
| 5 | This sub gives up way too easyThere are subs which are awful echo-chambers, but here (and probably on r/gainit with "just eat more man") there are good reasons these advice are used all the time. They are good advice because they are efficient. It is the best cost (time or mental stress) / return deal. If a girl is not like "Fuck yeah!" after meeting you, then it is not worth your time (at least not for anything serious). You MUST move on. If she is interested or she changes her mind, she WILL get back to you. There is no po… | /r/seduction | 20/08/20 08:24 AM |
| 6 | Date flaked on me last minute.Because she didn't want to turn him down right away, or because she didn't have anything better planned for that time (but something better did come along), or because her ex texted her, or her dog died, or her friend broke up, or she got her period and she felt horrible, or for many other reasons. It's not your problem to break your head over. Your only problem is how you handle rejection. And right now, OP demonstrated an example of how to NOT handle rejection with desperation | /r/seduction | 20/08/20 06:51 AM |
| 1 | How do you not get jealous hearing about guys your age who are way more successful with women?Do or do not. There is no "how" Dude, you just don't care. Not at all. The mere fact that you care is a sign of insecurity. And as long as you have this insecurity about your sexuality, you won't have the success that you like. I guarantee it. The only way to go past that is to get to work. Approach strangers like hell, work on aspects of yourself that you feel like fixing (weight, job, etc.) But no matter what, take action. You gain NOTHING by logging in reddit and whining. Sorry for being blun… | /r/seduction | 16/08/20 09:43 AM |
| 3 | Pro Tip: Stop using women for “practice”.But still. How do you live with that? When we’re in bed together, and she says it was love at first sight. How the fuck am I supposed to tell her she was a “practice round” for me? You tell the truth. That you were alone for long, and that you saw something in her so you decided to talk to her and ask her out so as to get to know her and maybe give her a chance. And that you fell in love gradually because you slowly found out what an amazing person she really is. And that decision to talk to her… | /r/seduction | 14/08/20 11:43 AM |
| 3 | Pro Tip: Stop using women for “practice”.This is Blue-Pilled AF! You are beating yourself up for nothing. There is NOTHING wrong with approaching a girl, getting to know her and finding out that you like each other. People talk to each other everywhere (at least before COVID): in bars, at the supermarket, at the street, while waiting in line, after they bump their cars by accident, etc. And for reasons that may or may not include attraction. People meet their partners in unexpected ways. It's not always "I love her so much and we have … | /r/seduction | 14/08/20 11:31 AM |
| 2 | Things a learnt from a very successful guyI've seen my fair share of guys who are secure with themselves, even arrogant at some point, but are absolutely terrible at talking to women and eliciting attraction feelings. The basis of attraction triggers are universal and do not fit any particular context | /r/seduction | 13/08/20 12:49 PM |
| 1 | How much do you spend on dates?I usually go for coffee date for the first date and rarely spend more than 10$. It's a better place to talk and get to know each other than a bar or a club, plus I don't like alcohol too much. And TBH, if I offer to buy the coffees or drinks, I usually ask for the girl something in return, like if she mentioned that she cooks I'll say something like "The drinks are on me tonight, but next time we will have dinner at your place. You cook". Or simply "The drinks are on me tonight. You can treat me… | /r/seduction | 13/08/20 10:04 AM |
| 23 | Things a learnt from a very successful guyHey guys (other commenters here). I agree that this guys is essentially playing a quantity-over-quality game. However, he sounds like he has been perfecting his social skills at least. If he does decide to work on himself, build himself a career let's say, and moves on to meet high-quality girls, he would most probably be way ahead of competition (the average career man) in terms of experience. He is confident, he knows how to be sexual, he knows how to handle rejection, he has conquered approac… | /r/seduction | 13/08/20 09:52 AM |
| 1 | What’s your opinion on approaching girls at the gym?Statistically, less girls are open to meeting new people on the gym. It's not impossible, but it's easier to approach (girls are more open) on the street and even easier at bars or clubs. Having said that, the same rules apply at the gym. No harm is done by nodding with a smile or striking up very brief chat, and see how it goes from there | /r/seduction | 12/08/20 09:24 AM |
| 3 | What are the best ways to capture and enter into a mans heart?Pretty much you got your answer right here. A. Make yourself available. Make dating profile (if you are into online dating), or go out of your house and be approachable, open to conversations, funny, etc. I hate to say this, but you can tell from 50 feet away if a girl is approachable or not. So wear a nice warm smile and make yourself appear approachable in any place (when you are out for drinks, when shopping, in workplace, in mass transit, etc.) B. If you do like a man, show him that you want… | /r/seduction | 10/08/20 07:19 AM |
| 5 | An old but relevant article highlighting the dangers girls have to face when rejecting a guy. It's important to be considerate. This is one reason why 1) You're given a wrong number by them and 2) Ignored over text on the follow up from a receptive Cold Approach.This is gold! Also thanks for giving actual practical advice on the matter. Humans are built to be social creatures. They want to interact with others. But first priority is safety/comfort, so everyone is extremely biased towards this kind of "person". There are obvious creeps out there and there are other more subtly-shitty persons. That's why girls have to shit-test the hell out of you in the beginning. The 90% of approaching and first few dates is essentially to manage to prove her that you a… | /r/seduction | 07/08/20 07:40 AM |
| 4 | An old but relevant article highlighting the dangers girls have to face when rejecting a guy. It's important to be considerate. This is one reason why 1) You're given a wrong number by them and 2) Ignored over text on the follow up from a receptive Cold Approach.I want a world where women are not scared to go out nor be forced to act bitchy. I want a world where women are not afraid to talk to strangers or tell them that they are not interested. A world where a girl won't feel sexually-oppressed or be afraid to be labeled a slut for doing something completely normal and good. Instead of that, we are coming to a world where "flirting" seems to be a necessary subject that should be taught in schools. | /r/seduction | 07/08/20 07:18 AM |
| 1 | Best books for men according to 56 blogs (see comments for the list)I would move "No more Mr. Nice Guy" out of that list. In fact, I'd move it, like, miles away from that list. Also, "The Prince" or the "art of war" are indeed recommended by many, but mostly as classics. IMO, They are very hard to read and they offer no particular insight on today's life. | /r/seduction | 03/08/20 07:02 AM |
| 1 | Is it normal for girls to lose interest quickly if you don't make a move?Depends on your age. If you guys are below 18, then it is common to go dates and hang out and have this general flirty-but-not-flirty vibe and go on like than and tension is built and nobody looses interest. IMO, if you are older, not being clear with your intentions from the start is a big turn off (and let alone boring). "Ok I kinda like him, but we have been 2 dates already, and I still dont know if he is interested or not". Another indication is to look at her past boyfriends. If they strike… | /r/seduction | 01/08/20 11:19 AM |
| 1 | My no-tomfoolery flowchart for day-game openingI'm, all in for the "whatever works for you" mantra, but let me give you some constructive ideas on how you can improve that flowchart (according to my personal observations and experience): There is no clear reason as to WHY you want to get HER to for coffee. You haven't told her that you like her or you'd like to talk more and see her again (why?), etc. (see 3) You don't seem to have a clear purpose on some of the threads. The purpose is to get her number. I don't see how you can easily transi… | /r/seduction | 22/07/20 07:33 AM |
| 2 | How do you know if the woman you are dating is high-quality?I don't want to take part in the BP-RP dynamic (because honestly they both sound stupid). So, essentially you are saying that, the more submissive she is and the less easily replaceable you are for her, the higher the girl's value for you? | /r/seduction | 20/07/20 05:16 PM |
| 1 | How do you know if the woman you are dating is high-quality?In my experience, and from what I've seen social engineers explain, if one person falls into the other person's frame, then that usually means the person with the stronger frame has higher perceived value. So, in effect, you are describing a low value woman here. I won't tell you if it's bad or not to want that kind of relationship per se, but it's the opposite of what OP asks. I've dated girls who were clingy and would do anything to hang out with me, and let me tell you, they are definitely NO… | /r/seduction | 20/07/20 12:12 PM |
| 10 | How do you know if the woman you are dating is high-quality?It largely depends on your criteria. For some people, high-value women are beautiful ones. For others, women who are passionate about their work, or women who have many friends and are socially-high-value. In the end, in my personal opinion, it all boils down to 2 criteria: How easy and how fun/interesting she makes your life. Easy life, means easy communication. You are not second-guessing, you are not chasing her more than she does you, you can communicate anything you want, you both make sure… | /r/seduction | 18/07/20 07:53 AM |
| 1 | How do you know if the woman you are dating is high-quality?That's a bit misleading. Many girls are attractive to men, but they end up being gold-diggers or shallow or shitty persons. Are those high-value? Probably not. Unless you mean that many men who know them agree that they like them. Then yes, that's probably an indirect measurement. | /r/seduction | 18/07/20 07:42 AM |
| 1 | Today's Infield report 5 Approach 3 contact infoDirect. You handled the rejection with humor. She took it well. GJ. 10/10 Good. She was receptive so your approach seems to be warm and calibrated. The fact that she agreed to give you her contact details means that she does not rule out the possibility of meeting again in the future. You can try messaging her on IG. Say something that you really liked about her (e.g. her elegant style, praise a way she is standing out from the rest). Then I'd follow with something like: "This may come off as ag… | /r/seduction | 17/07/20 09:06 AM |
| 3 | First date ever at 28 and got rejected next dayI'm sorry to tell you, but your post is one big contradiction. You said that you thought the date went very well, but then you proceed telling us a myriad of bad points. I could tell you would get rejected by the time you got into her car and she "attacked" you and you "defended" yourself (big mistake). I bet that I could tell even before that, if I knew your texting. This date was bad! Maybe by an off-chance, some inexperienced young girl could overlook all the uncomfortable talk in favor of yo… | /r/seduction | 14/07/20 06:48 AM |
| 1 | I’ve never had a girlfriend. Or a kiss.First of all, stop being around toxic people. I wouldn't call "friend" someone who ridicules me and likes to make me feel uncomfortable just for fun. Are they any supportive? Have they tried to actively help you, like setting you up with their friends, or offered to wing you in bars? If not, they have no right to mock a situation that it's not of your choosing. Start cutting toxic people off, and you will start noticing an elevated mental energy As for your question, it's better if you don't bri… | /r/seduction | 08/07/20 07:16 AM |
| 1 | Most seduction books are pure s**t, what you need to be doing is working on fundamental social skills and dealing with your inner demons.Ah! That's how white knights are born boyz | /r/seduction | 02/07/20 06:38 AM |
| 1 | Realized I want to save myself with someone I care about and have no desire for hookupsOk dude, that's fine, that's your right. I just hope that when that girl does come, you will be adequately experienced and emotionally mature so you won't bore her or weird her out | /r/seduction | 28/06/20 02:09 PM |
| 2 | Cold approach from a girl's perspectivewell, yes, you have a point. We say here to guys again and again that the only think that's important is how you make her feel. The truth is that it's highly likely that guys at the bar or supermarket come to talk to you again only because of your physical attraction and nothing else (which is not bad. That's how attraction works. The attraction switches are predominantly physical, especially for males. He likes you and that's a reason to want to get to know you). The fact that it's a more relax… | /r/seduction | 26/06/20 10:54 AM |
| 1 | How many of you were late bloomers?Started seriously working on my physique and social skills (social hobbies) at 27. Till then I was the epitome of "Nerd" First time I had a relationship and had sex was at 31. Feels good man! It's never too late | /r/seduction | 24/06/20 03:25 PM |
| 2 | Today's infield report to get some advices from more experienced ones.1: Asking for a number should be done in a natural way in order to maximize the chances of having the best outcome, and not as a last-resort when she is walking off. I mean natural way as if: " this conversation is interesting, and you seem a nice girl, and we are both hooked so let's continue this conversation at another time because either of us has to go". I don't know the sub-communication of your approach, I am just telling you how it should be done ideally. If you already do that, fine. 3:… | /r/seduction | 24/06/20 11:46 AM |
| 1 | Today's infield report to get some advices from more experienced ones.OK. Here are some tips: You are escalating too fast. You go from "I like you" to "give me your number" super-fast. Even the first part is pretty challenging to swallow in a mall setting. Saying "I like you" to a stranger in a mall setting is by itself pretty challenging for them. Of course you can keep using this approach, but stay there and try to build some more comfort first before asking for number. Ask her stuff about herself (what she is into, or do a cold read, or ask her favorite food, m… | /r/seduction | 24/06/20 07:26 AM |
| 4 | Am i screwed? Had a great first date, but..So, am i screwed with this girl? My educated opinion is: Yes. You had your chance when she agreed going out the first time. You have already established your role in her eyes, and that is a "friend". Now it's definitely not worth it pursuing it any further. Even if she does change her mind eventually, you will have lost precious time with other more available girls and also you will still not be her first option. Next steps: Keep it casual and friendly. If you like this girl as a friend, keep in… | /r/seduction | 23/06/20 03:05 PM |
| 1 | does "look" the most important thing than gaming or voice tone or self confident ? / boyfriend objectionWhile I am generally against this kind of advice, I'd strongly suggest you find a mentor. Not some random over-the-internet coach, but someone local to your area/country who will be familiar with any cultural norms. Also, it could be super-helpful if he could be there with you (as a wing or as an observer) while you approach and then tell you what he thinks you did wrong. You will eventually figure it out yourself, but with a mentor it will be a lot more enjoyable and faster. This mentor could o… | /r/seduction | 23/06/20 01:46 PM |
| 3 | does "look" the most important thing than gaming or voice tone or self confident ? / boyfriend objectionWhy do you care so much if they have a BF? What does it matter if they tell you the truth or they lie? Is your life purpose to uncover some secret conspiracy where girls are programmed to tell you they have a BF if you don't look like X guy? If so, you might be on the wrong sub. Yes, of course looks matter, as with everything else. If she does not like you within the first 3 minutes, she will blow you away. Looks matter, body language matters, opener matters. And again, it's still statistics. Th… | /r/seduction | 23/06/20 01:10 PM |
| 18 | So being not too invested is key. But how do you go about being not too invested when you're really lonely?Go out and meet people. Aim to have fun and meet new interesting people instead of meeting girls only. If you do meet a girl you like, don't hesitate to be upfront. It's ok to get invested. She is a cute girl and it goes well. It's natural to feel that this is important. The key is to have as many such "cases" as possible. If you are talking to not one but 3-4 cute girls at any given time, it's almost impossible to get invested to any specific case then. | /r/seduction | 21/06/20 05:43 PM |
| 3 | Don’t give up: my personal experience with SeductionYou are the guy who knows how to "win in life" with all the literal sense. Congratulations. You are leading an example where hard work and honest action is getting you results no matter where you started off. True, some people are more "lucky" than others (genetics, wealth, sheer luck, etc.) but taking full responsibility of your own situation and not playing the victim (as thousand others have opted to), is the only way to see your goals and dreams materializing. Congrats again. This closely re… | /r/seduction | 19/06/20 12:48 PM |
| 1 | Is it possible to smash and stay friends?The simple answer is the answer to this question: Would you be OK if you stopped being friends after that? If the answer is yes, please do smash. However, as I understand, there might be complications with other people as well (she is hanging out with your friends too), so take that also into account. The answer is: yes it is possible, but don't count on that. | /r/seduction | 19/06/20 09:14 AM |
| 3 | Is there an easy way to think more positively about myself?OK, I know literally no successful person who spends his morning saying affirmation to himself in front of the mirror. That's a looser's habit. Stop that, and instead take that time to invest into exercising, and improving your posture and style. You never stop caring. You just learn to live with it. Make it a habbit to go out and talk to people who you don't know. Only with continuous feedback, you can start believing in yourself again. I'd suggest progressive desensitization. Start from simple… | /r/seduction | 19/06/20 09:07 AM |
| 4 | Infuriating example of 'cancel culture' and how hypocritical, cognitively biased, and malevolent women can beWell, while I see your point in general, I don't see how this specific incident is "ruining the dating scene in Western society". I mean, Chris apologized because this incident hurt his public image, because he is a public figure. I doubt anyone else in his right mind would do the same, unless he felt guilty of something of course. Girls will say "you go girl" at any male-bashing behavior nowadays. No big deal. It's just trendy. I feel it is more like setting up a shit-test men have to pass in o… | /r/TheRedPill | 19/06/20 08:26 AM |
| 4 | How do I start flirting and for a lack of a better "signal" that I'm interested in them as more than a friendTalk to her and build comfort, and if convo is going well, just tell her that you like her and want to talk to her again so ask her out, exchangr contact info etc. If she agrees, 95% she likes you too. When on the date, assume attraction. Build tension with sexual convo and light touching. If she is receptive, go for a kiss or something. You can get away without ever saying anything explicit Done | /r/seduction | 14/06/20 09:20 PM |
| 1 | If all you have to offer is sex to a woman you have no chanceSometimes it is only sex. No reason to feel guilty about it, no reason to sugarcoat it, no reason to make her feel bad for wanting it either. Sometimes it is more than sex. It depends on the person and our own state of mind at the time. However, the only thing that is important with women is how you make her feel. money/hobbies/goals/style are only just the sides which, of course, are important, but not the main course. | /r/seduction | 12/06/20 07:20 AM |
| 2 | "Shes not yours but your turn" makes me not want to do anything with a womanIMO this is victim mentality. Moreover, this is also contradicting: "I want a deep connection with somebody who will love me unconditionally for who I really am. But in the meantime, I don't want to put any effort on myself or finding that person.". I get that you may have been cheated on once and generally your first experiences with girls might have been bad. However, how you will proceed is up to you. As counter-intuitive (and probably dishonorable) as it may sound, a girl's attraction rises … | /r/seduction | 09/06/20 07:56 AM |
| 3 | Making female friends goes a long wayWell, to me it sounds somewhat cringy to talk about sex positions with coworkers, but I don't really know the relationship you guys have. Anyway. Yeah, talking to girls is cool, it opens up they way girls talk and think, and also makes you more comfortable around other girls. Female friends are also very helpful when it comes to style as they are best companions for shopping. And they are also good to have in a group when going out or as wings (a mixed group is always better than an all-male gro… | /r/seduction | 04/06/20 07:35 AM |
| 3 | This community fucked me up. Fuck this place, just get out there and focus on being the best guy you can be and girls will come naturallyMan, let's not over-complicate things. If you want to become better with girls, you must work on social and flirting skill. If you want to become the next Beethoven, you should work on your piano skill. If you want to become better at lifting things, you should eat and exercise more. However, the last time I checked, this was r/seduction and not r/music or r/gainit. This is a place to get resources on flirting. OP's point is about "obsessing" over the theory in every-day life, and not about the … | /r/seduction | 19/05/20 06:24 PM |
| 13 | This community fucked me up. Fuck this place, just get out there and focus on being the best guy you can be and girls will come naturallyI had already achieved a LOT more than most people my age by the time I turned 30. And I knew people who had a lot more success in dating but had achieved way less in terms of personal development. Guess why! I am not against the “work on yourself” matra. It is just that it is too vague. If you want to attract girls, you must work on social and flirting skills, and probably your looks too. Getting better at your career or getting more money, for example, is gonna do rat's shit for it (unless you… | /r/seduction | 19/05/20 01:31 PM |
| 4 | This community fucked me up. Fuck this place, just get out there and focus on being the best guy you can be and girls will come naturallyAll these you are listing here are theories. You can USE them or let them use you. You are confusing tools and knowledge to your every-day reality. This is called obsession and r/seduction has nothing to do with it. Take whatever appeals to you, and apply however you deem right. No need to be negative about anything, especially if it is not forced on you. Psychologists study medicine and psychology and treat hundreds of patients, but they don't go around their friends and SOs trying to unearth t… | /r/seduction | 19/05/20 01:24 PM |
| 14 | This community fucked me up. Fuck this place, just get out there and focus on being the best guy you can be and girls will come naturallyif every 10th time I "worked on myself", a "girl came naturally", I wouldn't had turn 30 as a virgin. | /r/seduction | 19/05/20 01:13 PM |
| 12 | How to pickup women using mushroomsFirst time I read it I thought that you came to that conclusion while picking up mushrooms in the forest while the sun was setting. | /r/seduction | 07/05/20 07:40 AM |
| -7 | How to pickup women using mushroomsNo, Gods generally turn themselves into animals (probably through the help of some hallucinogens IMHO) and fuck women with or without consent (they are Gods, right? Who would dare to oppose them?) Worked for Zeus | /r/seduction | 07/05/20 07:06 AM |
| 3 | PatheticThe focus is all off on places like this, men should not be learning "seduction" and how to be "pick up artists", they should be learning how to build a life that hot girls genuinely want to be a part of. Well, this depends on what someone is trying to achieve. A 25yo scrawny WoW dude who has never gotten laid has different targets than a regular dude who has some experience with approaching women. The former is trying to get a GF, the later is trying to up his game and get hotter and/or better … | /r/seduction | 04/05/20 10:23 AM |
| 1 | The insecurity shown when trying to hide a fault often comes off as being way less attractive than the actual fault itself.Up your finger and tongue game, and/or find a tight girl who likes small dicks. I'd recommend against getting a Hummer | /r/seduction | 29/04/20 05:57 AM |
| 0 | I used to have guy friends who always disturbed girls that were with me. One day I made the hard decision to get rid of them, and put in the time to make new guy friends who didn't disturb girls. My results then went up. Changing friends is hard, but important to become good at this.Honestly, all this sounds a bit of a waste of time. It is not that you didn't have friends to begin with. Why not invest all this time meeting women instead? The process may be quite similar. Some girls may turn out to be good friends anyway, or even introduce you to their other male friends or family (brothers, cousins, fathers), and avoid all this hustle. It is not bad advice, but maybe it is more applicable e.g. to someone moving in a new town or something | /r/seduction | 15/04/20 10:33 PM |
| 1 | I used to have guy friends who always disturbed girls that were with me. One day I made the hard decision to get rid of them, and put in the time to make new guy friends who didn't disturb girls. My results then went up. Changing friends is hard, but important to become good at this.What do you mean by "disturb"? You mean "harass"? I don't get it. It seems fishy all over. Instinctively, the first action would be to talk to your fiends, tell them what bothers you or, even better, train them on how to act, wing for them, etc. Or offer to set them up with one of your girl's friends. If those fail, you still don't have to ditch your friends. Just hang out with them in a different setting, and the girl never gets to meet them. Simple! Moreover, why don't you talk to your girl th… | /r/seduction | 15/04/20 10:26 PM |
| 3 | Is there any special way of eye contact?Just look at her like a juicy black angus steak who could look you back Jokes apart, what makes you think that it is your eye contact that makes them turn defensive/scared? I mean, do they tell you? What about the rest of your body language? Is it on point? Maybe the questions you ask are quite aggressive. Generally, using the correct mindset, the body-language (and eye-contact) tend to self-calibrate with time, but you can also learn a couple of explicit techniques. However, focusing on techniq… | /r/seduction | 14/04/20 07:01 AM |
| 2 | Talk is cheap. Action and experience are worthwhile and attractive.hmm... yes, maybe. But talking and texting essentially has the same effects. It is in the sub-communication. True, a person will choose to stay around not for the content (although many girls do have a tendency to remember every little detail that you told them), but the way you made them feel back then. And that was 90% due to the subtext, the body-language, the confidence, etc. Yes, of course, you can build this sub-communication of a confident, active and thrill-seeking man by actually being … | /r/TheRedPill | 13/04/20 07:22 AM |
| 7 | Do You Think Your Looks Are Holding You Back From Getting Attractive Women?I second this post! Also consider that, yes, if you are "objectively" good-looking, you will be the "type" of more women. However, a man's attractiveness is a factor of several other things as well because women's attraction switches are mostly emotional/mental. A woman's attractiveness is, unfortunately, A LOT MORE dependent on her looks because men's attraction switches are mostly visual! The reason women are not black-pilled AF is because there is and will always be an over-supply of dick. | /r/seduction | 10/04/20 09:50 AM |
| 3 | How do you know of a girl is into you and not just being nice to you?"Hey Stacy, you honestly seem a pretty cool girl. Let's go get a coffee sometime so we can talk in person. How does this Friday sound?" | /r/seduction | 26/03/20 07:10 AM |
| 7 | Common traits in guys who suck with womenI love your second point. It never fails to identify who is struggling with women. It is as sure as day that the more experiences a guy has, the less assumptions he makes and vice versa And I might add a couple more points: They are generally under-achievers I don't mean that they don't have a career, or that they are generally dumb, but they are generally below their potential. They might be doing a good job, but they'll never ask for a raise. They might have a good opportunity before them, b… | /r/seduction | 25/03/20 08:41 AM |
| 1 | Here is the ONLY Thing You Can Do To Get Better Results With GirlsOK doomer | /r/seduction | 24/03/20 01:55 PM |
| 1 | Weird breakthrough on rejectionI don't know if maybe I have experienced enough rejection that I am numb to it or what I am genuinely interested to know how many rejections you have gone through to have reached that point really! | /r/seduction | 20/03/20 07:48 PM |
| 8 | Weird breakthrough on rejectionUnpopular opinion: By saying that you are not her type, she meant that her type are men who have at least had the balls to ask her out and make their intentions clear the day they first talk to her. | /r/seduction | 20/03/20 07:42 PM |
| 2 | I had a phase in my life where I had no female friends and only use cold approach to meet girls, and I did badly. Then I built a social circle with girls in it, and got into salsa dancing where I met girls. Then when I did cold approach again, I found I did a lot better at cold approach than before.Yeah because you learnt/practiced being social with several girls in a safe setting (salsa class). Good job. Been there, done that. | /r/seduction | 20/03/20 09:10 AM |
| 0 | Here is the ONLY Thing You Can Do To Get Better Results With Girls"Models" actually says the exact opposite: going after extreme self-improvement is actually over-compensation that is done in-place of what you should be actually doing, i.e. being OK with your flaws/shortcoming, opening up with your feelings and intentions and essentially becoming vulnerable | /r/seduction | 18/03/20 11:39 AM |
| 56 | Here is the ONLY Thing You Can Do To Get Better Results With GirlsI respectfully disagree! Unless there is something REALLY wrong with you (e.g. your teeth look like you ate a grenade, you are morbidly obese, you are homeless), then you are just fine the way you are right now. Everything else is in your head. All this stuff, that you need the body of a Greek God, or you need to be making 7-figures a year, etc. are literally USELESS for dating. They are even disadvantages sometimes as women are very good at picking up when you are over-compensating. If you are … | /r/seduction | 18/03/20 08:22 AM |
| 2 | Girls choose you, you don't chose them. As a man, focus on being a better person, and stop chasing womenWe see every day (not only here, but in other forums and communities) stuff like "We broke up. How do I win her back?" or "We texted for weeks but every time we agree to meet up, something happens" or "There is that girl at work I want to approach...." Stop right there! The girl has probably already decided and you are just beating around the bush! Forget the Ex, the office crush and the hard-to-get Tinder match! Go out there and meet girls! Approach like it is your full time job! Get your life … | /r/seduction | 17/03/20 01:19 PM |
| 1 | Do men normally hit their peak later than women?I think that you should be getting out more and talking to stranger girls (with the intention to get to know them and to flirt with them). Go at a busy street or mall or go to a bar or club (if/when it is safe to do so) and stop girls to talk to them. Don't bother changing anything. Ask them whatever you would normally ask them right now. Do that for 2 weeks or so and observe your results. Then go ahead and change the type of questions you ask to a bit more emotional/investing. Observe any chang… | /r/seduction | 16/03/20 10:34 AM |
| 1 | Do men normally hit their peak later than women?You are missing the fact that all these guys are talking to 50 new girls PER WEEK and they are getting ignored/ghosted/rejected by 48 of them and they show you only the 2 who actually liked them. And this is not necessarily bad, because seduction is indeed a numbers game. So unless you go out there and hit on 50, 100, 1000 girls, don't expect much both in terms of social calibration and "success" | /r/seduction | 16/03/20 10:11 AM |
| 4 | What are some sexual things you can say to a woman during a cold approach that are not directly explicit but are suggestive and could have a sexual meaning?It would be amazing if you could correctly guess her number at the end as well. | /r/seduction | 16/03/20 09:27 AM |
| 2 | What are some sexual things you can say to a woman during a cold approach that are not directly explicit but are suggestive and could have a sexual meaning?yeah, yeah! They don't necessarily constitute attraction by themselves, but all these are important of course. The best and most objective indicator you have is that she stays there and talks with you without seem to be bothered by your presence. | /r/seduction | 16/03/20 09:21 AM |
| 14 | What are some sexual things you can say to a woman during a cold approach that are not directly explicit but are suggestive and could have a sexual meaning?- Hey, I'm Mark by the way - ... - So, I'd really like to know you a bit better. What do you do? - ... - Oh nice! first time I meet a woman firefighter. It must be tough! How did you choose to follow that? - ... - Interesting. I bet your parents would be proud - ... - So I also bet that you have some funny stories to tell. Besides saving kittens off trees I mean. - ... - Hahaha! cool! You know, actually this reminds me of a time in France where I met that foreign girl who was around 10, and she … | /r/seduction | 16/03/20 08:38 AM |
| 1 | Do men normally hit their peak later than women?Oh, one more big thing that I realized as well is how you define "results". Yeah, how many women you get into bed is a pretty good measurable result, but it is not necessarily the only effect of your self-improvement. It's all the other things you are grinding on and setting you up for success. A dancer may train for years for just 3 minutes on the stage. Don't nullify the effort you have already made! Looking back, in my 20's I was always an shy nerd who could not even say hi to a girl without … | /r/seduction | 16/03/20 08:11 AM |
| 1 | Do men normally hit their peak later than women?You get ignored because you don't build enough attraction before asking them to meet them again. For me, the biggest change is realizing that, if I instill no particular feelings to a girl when I meet her, she would have absolutely no reason/interest in seeing me again. So, if I went in and asked only blunt (non-emotional) questions, being relatively unattractive otherwise, I would receive no particular interest back. But, if I make the conversation interesting, unique and playful, that would, a… | /r/seduction | 15/03/20 11:46 PM |
| 1 | Do men normally hit their peak later than women?OK, but do factor-in also the fact that women tastes differ. A 20yo collage girl may be more attracted to the 25yo dick and not care at all about the 30+yo's cabrio. Similarly, a divorced 35yo career woman, may have fed up with "stable" men, and be looking for the 25yo's dick again. Who knows! Oh, and don't confuse sexual attraction with good finances and stability. These are generally inversely-proportional. | /r/seduction | 15/03/20 11:16 PM |
| 1 | Do men normally hit their peak later than women?I was putting effort at gym and career and being social/friendly from 26 all the way up to 30-ish and I was also not seeing any results. Of course, I was feeling hopeless, but in reality, I was just circle-jerking around the problem which was essentially communicating my sexuality. It became clear as day when I put actual effort in pick-up and I also started approaching girls at the street and at parties. Probably the biggest one for me was approaching a girl sexually and not circle-jerking arou… | /r/seduction | 15/03/20 10:29 PM |
| 100 | Do men normally hit their peak later than women?People normally hit their peak dating potential when they actually put effort into it. A popular high-school chad who didn't graduate, took over his dad's shop, started doing drugs and spiraled into depression was probably at his peak around 18. A dude who graduated, went to collage parties, etc. and then got a decent job, married and had two kids and started balding, was probably at his peak at 24. A religious dude who studied, graduated, married the girl his parent's told him, he badly divorce… | /r/seduction | 14/03/20 09:29 AM |
| -3 | How to get women to take an active rol when chatting?Well, I didn't say I am a womanizer or anything. At least I talk to girls on a regular basis, you know, trying to get better and stuff (even at 30). Just sharing my experience, making constructive conversation, you know, not attacking anyone, not demanding to be right... Anyway... So, good thing OP didn't ask anything about fishing, because then I'd be clueless, even though I have eaten a lot of fish during my life | /r/seduction | 12/03/20 03:11 PM |
| 1 | How to get women to take an active rol when chatting?Sorry to hurt your feelings, but... good luck trying to give advice "from experience" | /r/seduction | 12/03/20 02:57 PM |
| 1 | How to get women to take an active rol when chatting?I am speaking from experience and that side of things You talk to how many completely stranger girls per day/week? | /r/seduction | 12/03/20 02:53 PM |
| -2 | How to get women to take an active rol when chatting?Not necessarily. If they are random girls who don't know him, why would they have any interest in asking anything about him? If you open to girls you don't know, unless they are instantly super-attracted to you and not very shy, they most likely be either defensive or passive. Only really confident (or tomboy-ish) girls will start making questions about you or generally start contributing value to the conversation from the start. Even then, don't gauge her interest by how many questions they mak… | /r/seduction | 12/03/20 02:24 PM |
| 3 | How to get women to take an active rol when chatting?Maybe you are asking the wrong questions. Maybe you make it sound like an interview. Maybe the girl just wants be left alone. Maybe she wants to be polite and just answer your questions without having any interest to contribute. If this is something you observe on a regular basis, try to change either the content, or the delivery. I very consistently observe this behaviour when I ask interview questions or when I am expressionless or when I am expecting the girl to put value in the conversation … | /r/seduction | 12/03/20 02:14 PM |
| 2 | No Girl is EVER a For Sure Thing!OK I see where this is coming from but this attitude is a bit, let's say, inefficient. IMHO, the most effective mindset (and the one that gives you peak confidence) is to go in as if you are SURE that the girl likes you / will kiss you / will have sex with you, but also be totally OK if she decides not to (abundance). Respect her decision, laugh it out and focus on having a good time yourself (you can also apply some reverse-psychology). After things die down, do some retrospection and decide if… | /r/seduction | 10/03/20 08:20 AM |
| 3 | Does having a dog really attract women?This is a legit thought. People used to circulate it alot that having a dog was a chick-magnet. IMHO, as with all self-improvement stuff it is suggested here, I'd rather recommend to do it for yourself (and the poor animal) and not for the girls. You want a dog? You are OK with all the hustle and expenses but also with all the unconditional love a dog will bring? Great! Then get a dog from a shelter. Otherwise, stick with your friend's dogs. e.g., if you want to take a couple of pics for your ti… | /r/seduction | 09/03/20 08:26 AM |
| 14 | We all know we can't make a girl attracted to us. So if the girl is attracted to us, what's the point in gaming her?The girl's attraction isn't True/False switch, but it is more like a knob. It ranges from "meh.." to "kinda like him" to "I think he is cute!" to "I can't stop thinking about him", and so on. Game (/seduction) helps you, no matter on what level of attraction you already got, to work your way up mainly by instilling the right feelings to the girl. Game also helps you gauge how interested a girl is and thus help you decide if she is worth investing more of your time in her to build attraction, or … | /r/seduction | 06/03/20 06:54 PM |
| 1 | Girls want you to be genuine.. Whatever you are.. Own it. They hate when you are confused of your identity and is not comfortable with yourself and is trying to change yourself. It means you are not proud of yourself.What someone said about pick-up (I think was RSDTyler), he said that the biggest resistance we put on ourselves when we don't take action (or practicing "game") is not the fear of rejection, but rather the fear of admitting to ourselves that we are doing something we are not. E.g. you know how a good-looking super-confident womanizer would act, or what would say. You have the blueprint in your head already. You know what you have to do, but doing it would mean that you are admitting to yourself … | /r/seduction | 05/03/20 08:48 AM |
| 1 | Girls want you to be genuine.. Whatever you are.. Own it. They hate when you are confused of your identity and is not comfortable with yourself and is trying to change yourself. It means you are not proud of yourself.Might I add that guys also love girls who are real with real personalities, identities, desires and feelings! Girls who are not comfortable being themselves ususally end up whiny bitches or drama queens. Girls, no matter what you do and who you are right now, own it. Be confident! It is sexy AF. | /r/seduction | 05/03/20 08:39 AM |
| 2 | These tips aren’t for people you care about.Well, this is absolutely true indeed! But it is a woman's role to play those games. Men on the other hand do not need to do it (in fact, evolutionary, we are so bad at it). Passing those "games", as you said, require us instead to effectively express that we are strong un-reactive high-value men. No games or tricks here. And this works both for getting sex or maintaining relationships. The principles are the same | /r/seduction | 04/03/20 10:38 AM |
| 3 | These tips aren’t for people you care about.But the other stuff isn’t to be used on people you love. It’ll backfire every time. Like what? Can you give examples? I hardly see anything strictly manipulative (psychological tricks, NPL stuff, etc) nowadays. Since Mark Mason and RSD became so popular (even before wiping out their channel), we are mostly talking about being yourself, self-amusing, communicating efficiently your desires and your feelings, and building an attractive lifestyle. Strictly speaking, r/seduction is (or should be) abo… | /r/seduction | 04/03/20 10:27 AM |
| -7 | Date and a kiss.You. Can you vouch for the other girl? You saying that all girls feel and act the same? Heck, I doubt even guys are so similar. Anyways. Re-reading your post and I honestly believe it is mostly negative and I dont see something constructive. I mean, even if you doubt he will have a second date, why not give him some advice on how to "improve his chances" of getting one considering the situation, or what to callibrate if he gets one, or even how to get over her and move to the next one. | /r/seduction | 28/02/20 06:45 AM |
| -1 | Dropping your game once you’re in the bedroom?Conventional wisdom also tells you that to get the girl in the first place, you need to buy her flowers, pay for the date, have similarities, connect on emotional level, etc. But we all here know that these are the surest way to get into the friendzone at best or become the creep at worst. Which way will you choose? In the bedroom, the best thing you can do is simply to make her have a good time. That's all she needs to keep coming back (and by good time I dont mean telling her compliments). The… | /r/seduction | 27/02/20 08:58 PM |
| 2 | What are some mistakes you made in your younger years?Hey, it changed by reading some seduction stuff and exposing myself constantly. "Models" and "the subtle art of not giving a f*uck" by Mark Mason helped tremendously. But it was alas a very slow process. In fact, it all boils down to making your mindset about treating women as people. Now, no matter where I am (drink, coffee with friends, etc.) I always talk to the people sitting next to me. In bars or dance parties, I always talk to several groups each time. It is really amazing meeting new peo… | /r/seduction | 16/02/20 08:05 PM |
| 62 | What are some mistakes you made in your younger years?I invested so much into each situation. Like I went to a bar, saw a cute girl and spent like 1 hour building up the courage to talk to her. And I was CRUSHED when she rejected me. And the next time would be like after one or two months or so. I wish I had realized back then how little investment you should give to someone you don't even know and how easy is to approach like 10 women within like an hour. | /r/seduction | 15/02/20 10:33 AM |
| 3 | How to stop being seen as a friend and become more attractive?You are giving off the vibe of a friend because you are keeping it friendly and you are not flirting or creating attraction. As others have mentioned, teases, "false rejections" and "role-play/role-reversal" are very good ways to create attraction and work best with best-looking women (especially at the moments when building comfort and she is clearly having a laugh and a good time with you). Of course, the best way to create attraction is physical contact and eye contact. Physical contact has t… | /r/seduction | 15/02/20 10:26 AM |
| 2 | Why do girls text with you, but when the time of the date is near, they suddenly cannot?Wow, nicely said! The only thing I don't quite agree is: Or maybe she just realized that you guys weren't right for each other I know several girls who genuenly believe that they are NOT compatible with the guy they are dating. I hear them many times saying "He is a bad boy", "This is not gonna end well. He will hurt me, I know it", "we are so gonna destroy each other". Yet they stick to him like licked stamps. The only time girls say that "we are just not compatible" are times where the guy is … | /r/seduction | 14/02/20 10:02 AM |
| 1 | Why do girls text with you, but when the time of the date is near, they suddenly cannot?Several reasons for mixed signals, but everything boils down to the value you have for them. You may have enough value so your validation is valuable for them (that's why they text), but not so high-value as to actually actually go out with you. Or maybe someone or some situation with higher value comes up and they choose to do that instead of you. Or maybe she was only interested to see how easy it would be for her to "seduce" you. Also, if you do go out but you still have don't have enough val… | /r/seduction | 14/02/20 09:34 AM |
| 3 | Strategic friend zoningGood relationships never start out with games Agree! good relationships start with subtle hints in conversations where the other mentally elevated party has to decrypt while doing his best not to shit his pants being himself | /r/seduction | 12/02/20 02:15 PM |
| 25 | Strategic friend zoningOK.... I am not exactly sure what you are planning to get with that. Make her text you first? OK, then what? You say she is generally receptive and positive to see you again, and this is typically how girls show interest. If she is interested and you like her, why not show it to her? Like grab and kiss her brains out. Why bother with big fancy dates or "tactical lines"? These never worked for me (in fact they only worked for girls who were not interested in me in the first place and just wanted … | /r/seduction | 12/02/20 11:20 AM |
| 33 | Strategic friend zoningWait, you went out twice and only talked? did you kiss her? Does she know that you like her? If not, then you've already friendzoned her. If I go out with someone (the 2 of us, as a date) and have a good time with her but not make a move or not flirt with her at all, then it is guaranteed she will be left wandering “what the fuck is going on?”. The fact that she agreed to go out with you a second time and also invite you to activities means that she might already be seeing you as a friend as wel… | /r/seduction | 12/02/20 10:14 AM |
| 1 | Long time lurker, I HAVE to speak up on how to increase your success with MINIMAL effort and there is no BS trick - it's a simple path that doesn't include anxiety.tl;dr: approach girls in social groups instead of cold-approach on the street/bars. | /r/seduction | 10/02/20 08:58 PM |
| 3 | Long time lurker, I HAVE to speak up on how to increase your success with MINIMAL effort and there is no BS trick - it's a simple path that doesn't include anxiety.Technically, you can date girls from 18 and up with no issue at all | /r/seduction | 10/02/20 08:57 PM |
| 3 | I DeLeTeD My TiNdEr AnD YoU ShOuLd ToONah, man. It's just Reddit. That's how it is. It is normal for open and un-moderated communities to get devolved when they start attracting attention from narrow minded people and people who are not the target audience. | /r/seduction | 10/02/20 02:42 PM |
| 3 | How to deal with ghosting and flaking emotionallyThere is a difference between being ghosted by your 10/10 office crush who you kinda flirt with and kinda text sometimes and ghosted by 6/10 Maria #17 who you met 2 weeks ago in the club and you kinda flirt with and kinda text sometimes. The feeling of emptiness and unworthiness left by being ghosted is sometimes unbearable. But it can be soothed by taking Maria #18 out for a date | /r/seduction | 10/02/20 02:35 PM |
| 6 | How to tell the difference between signs of interest and just a girl being friendly?How to tell the difference between signs of interest and just a girl being friendly? If she agrees to go out with you. | /r/seduction | 10/02/20 02:29 PM |
| 3 | I DeLeTeD My TiNdEr AnD YoU ShOuLd ToOLove how the most upvoted comment here is from the same person who 30 minutes later posts "men are trash. They are". Gotta love reddit | /r/seduction | 10/02/20 02:13 PM |
| 1 | Cold approach levels the playing field.You are legitimately trying to reach out to people by calling them sexist? What a plan! Again, I don't know where you are coming from and how much have you read here, but who on earth even suggested that guys who are seductive and persuasive do not respect consent? In fact, consent is exactly why this sub (and all other "seduction" resources) exist. If we didn't respect consent, we would just rape everybody, and wouldn't need to learn to flirt effectively and how to easily handle rejection and g… | /r/seduction | 08/02/20 11:07 AM |
| 1 | Cold approach levels the playing field.Hahaha OK. Now I see you are just a troll. Took me some time ;) You deserve to be loved nevertheless | /r/seduction | 07/02/20 04:16 PM |
| 1 | Cold approach levels the playing field.No, women are way more in-tune with their emotions, but because of that, it is generally harder to control them. It is a masculine trait to be emotionally strong and be able to control your feelings. That's why women seek out emotionally-stable men, because they can't do it themselves very well. It is not necessarily good or bad. It is just how it is. That's why they shit-test you, in order to find out how you react under emotional pressure. Evolutionary, she seeks the partners who will ensure s… | /r/seduction | 07/02/20 01:26 PM |
| 2 | Cold approach levels the playing field.Look. Sure I will listen to your opinion, but don't try to force it on me because it looses all its power that way, isn't that right? I am active in this sub for many months now and I've never seen anyone even hint anything about domestic violence, so I don't really know where this is coming from. Most men who come here (including myself) not only want to actually improve ourselves for the better, but we seek to understand women, because we love them, and we want them in our life, and because mo… | /r/seduction | 07/02/20 01:07 PM |
| 1 | Cold approach levels the playing field."We're not going to have sex." Classic! | /r/seduction | 07/02/20 08:19 AM |
| 1 | Cold approach levels the playing field.one word: PRACTICE!!! oh. and one more word: FAIL!!! If you get the same shit again and again, you become so insensitive, that you don't care any more. And that's real power. When you hear for the 1st time: "Well, I am not sure that I like you that way... I am just not ready for dating", naturally you will be like "Oh, I see, too bad. Ok take your time, no pressure". But when the 50th girl goes like that, you will be like "Yeah, whatever. Let's grab some coffee at that place down the beach and t… | /r/seduction | 07/02/20 08:15 AM |
| 1 | Cold approach levels the playing field.OMG! Last time I checked, this was r/seduction. what kind of comment is that? There are tons upon tons of information on shit-tests and why women do that (yes, in 2020 and will be doing it for several more decades, I am sure). Do some reading. Also, there is a ton of information on how to build comfort when approaching to make it clear that you are NOT a threat. | /r/seduction | 07/02/20 08:10 AM |
| 1 | Cold approach levels the playing field.replied to someone else https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/ezocmd/cold_approach_levels_the_playing_field/fgowv77?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x | /r/seduction | 07/02/20 08:04 AM |
| 1 | Cold approach levels the playing field.Yeah, I know. I see your point and I can't say that I disagree with you. It is indeed about self-respect, But wouldn't you agree that if you got butt-hurt and walked away, it would mean that you agree with her opinion and fall into her frame, that you are actually letting her disrespect you? I see this sort of like negging. Negging works for different reasons, but a super-insecure girl would take it much more negatively than a confident one. Anyway. My experience is that it is almost never black… | /r/seduction | 07/02/20 08:00 AM |
| 1 | Cold approach levels the playing field.That's a good and sensible question and the answer has many facets. 1st, because finding beautiful women who would go out with me is pretty hard, especially when I'm not good-looking in the first place (this is not abundance, I know, but I don't say I'm perfect). 2nd, because it hurt my self-esteem, but most importantly it really boggled my mind as to why they would go out with me in the first place only to reject me like that. And 3rd because I generally advocate against this "consumerism" tren… | /r/seduction | 06/02/20 10:19 PM |
| 1 | Cold approach levels the playing field."vicious" is such a negative word. It is just how they are. It is almost embedded in their DNA to do that. If you were getting hit on every day by a bunch of girls and you had to be choosy (because, society), you would do the same. Embrace shit tests because they are actually a good thing because it means "investment". See few examples and how they escalate to full-blown investment: They will ignore you, won't text you, only text you to ask favors. This is actually the worst thing they can do. T… | /r/seduction | 06/02/20 10:12 PM |
| 1 | Cold approach levels the playing field.FYI https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/ezocmd/cold_approach_levels_the_playing_field/fgowv77?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x | /r/seduction | 06/02/20 09:45 PM |
| 1 | Cold approach levels the playing field.https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/ezocmd/cold_approach_levels_the_playing_field/fgowv77?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x | /r/seduction | 06/02/20 09:45 PM |
| 26 | Cold approach levels the playing field.The first thing to understand is that ,if a girl agrees to go out with you, she is interested. Also, if a girl is having a good time with you, laughing, seeking interaction, touching you, etc. (even platonically), she is also at least somewhat interested. Just keep that mind-set when interact with her, no matter what she throws at you. This is very important to remain un-reactive. The second that works for me is to avoid expressing your intimate feelings verbally. I used to talk and talk and try… | /r/seduction | 06/02/20 11:55 AM |
| 82 | Cold approach levels the playing field.I had girls tell me in my face that I am not attractive/tall enough to date them. That I may be a great guy or I had great personality or made them feel that really special something. But I was not externally attracted to me so nothing intimate could happen. The first few times, I thought game-over and got hurt and I was like "oh.... OK... I see :( ". Then I learnt that it was just another type of shit-test, and starting passing it with flying colors. No girl would agree to go out with me only t… | /r/seduction | 06/02/20 10:25 AM |
| 3 | You can truly never know if a girl is interested in you until you approachGood luck with that. Cute/ugly is largely subjective and self-awareness can be hugely skewed. You cant know if a girl likes you of you dont approach her (no matter what you think of yourself). I know guys who think themselves as totally unattractive, yet there exist girls drooling over them. My recomendation whould be to just approach anyone you find attractive. Worst case, you just get some more experience | /r/seduction | 06/02/20 07:06 AM |
| 9 | How do you be romantic without being clingy?Depends on the girl. Rule of thumb is to observe what she does/says and reciprocate in kind. If she is cheesy with red heart emoticons it means that she wants you to be sending those as well. If she is texting you first, it means that she'd like you to text her first sometimes. If she plans a surprise for you, she wants to be surprised (eg with flowers). If she mentions going on a trip with you, you go ahead and book tickets. Some girls will really like you being romantic, some others prefer to … | /r/seduction | 05/02/20 03:14 PM |
| 2 | They're just people.Yeah, I agree 100%. However keep in mind that it is not the same for everyone. There are guys who are naturally social and charming and can communicate very effectively with people. They are also realists, have previous experience and roughly know what to expect. Yeah, these guys are pretty much set being themselves in the dating world. But nowadays, due to various social trends, there are more and more people who are NOT brought up like that. They have no idea how to talk to girls, they get unr… | /r/seduction | 05/02/20 07:57 AM |
| 2 | Is push/pull necessary when she's showing interest?This is the most well-thought and grounded reply | /r/seduction | 04/02/20 10:40 PM |
| 2 | Is push/pull necessary when she's showing interest?Short answer: Yes! Depends what you mean by keep push/pull. If you mean keep verbally and sexually teasing her, making her qualify to you, making yourself a bit hard-to-get, etc. then by all means, yes! that's who you are. Many times I see guys running textbook game, and getting a girl intrigued, and then they revert into being the most beta-males in existence (always being available, always agreeing, always yielding, buying un-reciprocated gifts, etc.). And of course, the girl gets bored in no … | /r/seduction | 04/02/20 10:31 PM |
| 2 | [FR] Asked a girl for her number at the marketHow can they make it clear that they are interested if they don't even know you? That's why you talk to them! Harassment is when you abuse the fact that they have to be nice no matter what (e.g. when they make it overwhelmingly clear that they are NOT interested in you). Having friends who dated strippers (who met during their work) and me having dated my dance teacher (who I also met during her work), I'll have to disagree with your gross generalization. | /r/seduction | 03/02/20 01:04 PM |
| 4 | [FR] Asked a girl for her number at the marketAgree with "harass", disagree if it is "flirting" | /r/seduction | 03/02/20 08:18 AM |
| 0 | [FR] Asked a girl for her number at the marketGood job mate! Maybe you can talk to her again if you see her in the store next time. Maybe you can have another shot that time. Anyway. Leaving and coming back again shows indecisiveness which is not a characteristic of a high-value man. I can guarantee that she picked that up the moment you "turned in yourself". Also, as you can expect, sample girls get hit on A LOT! I mean, like every 2 minutes or so. Some dudes will be better-looking and smoother than you, some will be worse. Anyway, the poi… | /r/seduction | 03/02/20 07:29 AM |
| 1 | Is it typical to go out with girls and not a feel connection?It's perfectly normal for men to not feel chemistry. It is just that we don't openly discuss about it because, even if we don't feel chemistry, most of us wouldn't pass up the chance for sex. You seem to be someone who is looking straight up for something serious, which is also perfectly normal. If you want to see her again because you want to give her another shot, sure go ahead, worst case scenario, you spend an afternoon with a cute girl and you confirm your suspicion. Better case, you both d… | /r/seduction | 02/02/20 01:47 PM |
| 2 | Pros and cons of wording your invite for a date "Let's meet up later to get some food or drink. What's your schedule like?" It sounds very platonic and could be mistaken for such. But saying "I'd like to take you out on a date" puts more pressure on her. Your experiences using similar wordings?In my experience, you should have at least some intention: Why you want to meet up again? Maybe you talked about some cafe that she'd like to visit, or some activity that you both enjoy, or simply because you like something about her and would like to talk more. Use this as bridge to meet again. Then use the intent to meet again as a bridge to exchange contact info (if you don't already have). So the first is a bit too vague. Why go for food and drink? Maybe you can add something before. Somethi… | /r/seduction | 31/01/20 09:50 AM |
| 10 | Nothing you read will make you feel betterI am mashing the upvote button but I can only give one vote :( | /r/seduction | 31/01/20 07:49 AM |
| 2 | IYO Does giving women money make them disrespect you?Don't make her gifts then, unless she also buys you stuff. If she does, reciprocate in quality. If you are already buying her gifts or always paying for dinner, etc. Stop everything immediately, and watch if sex keeps coming. | /r/seduction | 30/01/20 03:22 PM |
| 1 | College dance club pickup helpI have been going to dance parties very often during the last 2-3 years. What I can tell you from my experience thus far is that dance parties are very good to get better social skills, but, even though they virtually offer many opportunities to get girls, it is actually pretty hard to do pick-up there. Girls go in order to dance and practice and stuff, and if they do end up liking somebody, that somebody is most likely the Cuban-looking tanned dance teacher and not the average guy who is now le… | /r/seduction | 29/01/20 09:06 AM |
| 5 | Which ways do guys normally find a girlfriend?Plenty of average guys have average to above average girlfriends. Some stay together for their whole life. I don't consider this necessarily a good outcome. Neither should you. Do they have other options but decide to stay together because it is indeed their best choice? Do they have crazy good sex? A Do they enhance each other's life or are they just leaching each other's joy? Do they stay together because they want to or they are just bored to find something better? You can't truly answer that… | /r/seduction | 28/01/20 02:38 PM |
| 10 | Which ways do guys normally find a girlfriend?Average guys, putting in minimal effort end up with low-value girlfriends. Fact. Just wait around to see for yourself how they are gonna end up. Going out and not being approached by girls happens to 99% of guys, not only lame ones. Even the good-looking guys who get approached usually have shitty characters or are otherwise uninteresting and end up breaking up in bad ways.. I don't care if you are sick of approaching. Women and other guys don't care either. It is like saying that you wanna beco… | /r/seduction | 28/01/20 08:59 AM |
| 3 | 100 approaches in a month - making progress and having funCongrats man! No, really! Your balls must be huge! Taking small steps each time is the key to consistency and, ultimately, success! One tip for opening women on the street (but I believe this applies to other people as well), or at places where people generally move (as opposed to sitting down): Your success is measured by how long a girl stays there to talk to you. If she stops to talk to you and not try to disengage, it is a big plus, even if she is negative or aggressive (shit-test) (take it … | /r/seduction | 27/01/20 01:15 PM |
| 2 | Having a tough time actually meeting single women IRL, need adviceWell... we talk a lot about over-compensation here, and you are a shining example. People begin to understand sooner or later that random self-improvement, hobbies, job, money, and looks/gym play little (even negative) role when you CAN'T meet of flirt with women. You should focus on becoming more social! But this won't happen overnight. You are on the right track to have hobbies and joining groups and be meeting new people, etc. A social circle takes time to build, especially if you didn't have… | /r/seduction | 27/01/20 11:53 AM |
| 2 | Moving On and Being GhostedLook man, ghosting hurts. I know alright. But it is an indication that you are moving forward. You are getting dates and girls get interested in you. Way to go! There are a million reasons she might have ghosted you and, from my experience, whatever we speculate, it's gonna be something else (maybe her dog is sick, maybe her ex started texting her, maybe she met some other dude, maybe she decided she is a lesbian after all, maybe she went through some tough shit and wants to get her shit togethe… | /r/seduction | 27/01/20 11:37 AM |
| 2 | Just got rejected and I feel like my heart was broken before I even went on a dateThank for your reply. I see your point and I respect it, but I'd beg to disagree. Maybe it works for some people. but I see more and more really good-looking and muscular guys who use gym and self-improvement as a form of over-compensation because they REALLY SUCK at flirting. They go out once in a blue moon, they talk to one girl, get rejected, and then they go back to the gym and keep telling themselves they are not buff enough yet! Sad! 's fine to continuously improve yourself and exercise fo… | /r/seduction | 26/01/20 10:17 PM |
| 1 | Just got rejected and I feel like my heart was broken before I even went on a dateMan, First of all, good job for opening up. It takes balls to do that. However, please, use this experience as a lesson for future cases. First of all, it is a clear case of walking into the friendzone yourself. I mean, even if she was interested at first, she slowly drifted into categorizing you as a "friend" in her mind, and once girls do that, it is hard to escape this state (unless you are super-good-looking and they continuously lust for you). I bet that you knew that you liked her long bef… | /r/seduction | 26/01/20 10:19 AM |
| 1 | Just got rejected and I feel like my heart was broken before I even went on a dateMost red-pilled comment here! I can't say I disagree, these are solid advice, but I'd strongly suggest to skip the gym and self-improvement stuff for now. This guy's issue is mainly his sexual repression. Better work on not only becoming more social, but on his behaviour regarding revealing his feelings to people he likes WAYYY sooner. | /r/seduction | 26/01/20 09:54 AM |
| 9 | Ever since the PUA landscape changed on YouTube, this sub also changedmaybe you are a good teacher then! | /r/seduction | 24/01/20 08:21 PM |
| 1 | I am putting a girl on a pedestal right now. Things i'm doing to stop doing thatJust by the length of your replies, I can easily tell that you are over-thinking it. I would have asked her out as soon as we would have one or two conversations together where she wouldn't give only one-word answers. You seem to have a lot more signals than that. I can't tell whether all these signs mean that she likes you the same way that you like her. Maybe she does. Maybe she is just overly social and friendly. Maybe she is indeed having a good time with you but would never consider you sex… | /r/seduction | 24/01/20 08:08 PM |
| 11 | Ever since the PUA landscape changed on YouTube, this sub also changedYeah, whatever, it's just a ratio for the sake of the argument. If you'd work with coaches you'd soon be meeting people who can go a lot lower than that :) | /r/seduction | 24/01/20 08:00 PM |
| 32 | Ever since the PUA landscape changed on YouTube, this sub also changedI don't think Todd is actually that good/succcessful (probably has a similar success rate to most of us) HOWEVER, I think it's wrong that everyone is now judging him on that cringey infield that went viral That's simply how it looks when you try to 'plow' with girls who aren't attracted to you. Cringey. No matter how much you know about game. It ALWAYS looks cringey if someone is trying to game a girl who doesn't want to be gamed by you. And the result is always the same. A cringey rejection Tot… | /r/seduction | 24/01/20 07:07 PM |
| 2 | I am putting a girl on a pedestal right now. Things i'm doing to stop doing thatYou will always need "a little more confidence". It is just a thing you tell yourself to stall the process an procrastinate. Hear another perspective; If you like her enough as it is right now, why can't she have developed same/similar feelings for you? You are right to be careful at a work environment, but, IMO, the longer you wait, the more creepy it gets. It isn't awkward to ask somebody out and get rejected. It happens. You are adults, not 14 yo, so you know it happens and you can handle it.… | /r/seduction | 24/01/20 05:59 PM |
| 3 | I am putting a girl on a pedestal right now. Things i'm doing to stop doing thatHow about ask her out? If she says 'yes', cool, you'll have children together If she says 'no', cool, you'll hate her and you'll get over her (JK) No, seriously, ask her out. Like, today. It is by far the easiest and quickest way to expose the truth, which is if she likes you back or not. There are no mambo-jumbo techniques to stop thinking about her or trick yourself into not liking her. You like her. You like her a lot, and that's great! Why not discover if she likes you back too? If not, fine… | /r/seduction | 24/01/20 08:11 AM |
| 2 | Going out with a very handsome friend wrecked my stateHonestly, you sound like you are imposing this limiting belief to yourself. You see your friend as someone you have to compete with instead of someone you cooperate with. I suggest that, if you go out with him again (or anyone else for the matter), to plan a bit ahead before an approach. Approach as a group but have beforehand an idea about who will focus to whom, and how you are going to isolate each girl. This way you won't have to think you are competing for a particular girl with your friend… | /r/seduction | 19/01/20 07:33 PM |
| 15 | What girls want: My experience looking for that special someone, using RedditEven though most of your points make sense, remember that messaging random girls on Reddit, is not very representative of online dating, so take your observations with a grain of salt and not be hesitant to retest those assumptions down the road | /r/seduction | 19/01/20 03:15 PM |
| 9 | I'm 39 and getting judged for sleeping aroundEveryone is judged for sleeping around, girls mostly. It's OK. Don't let it get into your head. Are you happy with where you are? or is this judgement feeding some of your insecurities? If is it the latest, go ahead and fix those insecurities, but not because of the judgement. If it is the former, the best way I've found to deal with those people is to treat it as a shit-test: that is, to NEVER be defensive and answer vaguely, or agree-and-amplify. E.g. --"tinder is only for getting laid" -"Yeah… | /r/seduction | 17/01/20 07:58 AM |
| 3 | Really done with putting women on a pedestalShe thinks i am hitting on her That's the point. Be sexual. You are talking to her because you want to fuck her, not become her friend. You know how many guys have the balls to hit on attractive women (and make their intentions clear instead of trying to be her friend)? A lot less than you think! I look a fool if she rejects me To whom? Other people you don't know or you never gonna meet again? Even so, NOBODY cares bacause everyone is so pre-occupied with himself. Even so, statistically, you ap… | /r/seduction | 15/01/20 03:32 PM |
| 3 | I’ve 95% of the people I’ve slept with I wasn’t attracted to.You are not physically attracted to them? Or you are not attracted because you haven't built an emotional connection? I see little point of approaching anyone who you are not physically attracted to. On the other hand, it's normal to not feel any connection to a person you are one-off-ing. I don't really understand your concern. Why did you sleep with them anyway? Was it because they hit on you? Otherwise why would you hit on them? Be ready to reject and dismiss girls who you are not attracted t… | /r/seduction | 15/01/20 03:16 PM |
| 1 | Need advice about what to doLet's say you do. What are you gonna do? Add her on IG and text her something like "Hey! Remember me? We were staring each other 6 months ago, but none of us had the balls to say something. Lucky me I finally found you here! So what's up?". Yeah, IMO it's very creepy and it sounds desperate AF mate! Let it go. If you had spent those 6 months actually going out and meeting other women, you would have forgotten her by week 3. On the other hand, you could probably text her like you don't know her, … | /r/seduction | 13/01/20 07:31 PM |
| 14 | Please just dont focus on women but self development.Mom, get off the Internet please! Jokes aside, the point of seduction (as seddit, youtube, or books go) is to show you all the (mental and physical) assets so that you can communicate effectively and sexually with the opposite gender, no matter how much money you make, how many hobbies/skills you have, or how educated/social you are. | /r/seduction | 13/01/20 07:21 PM |
| 1 | I’m legally blind how do I sell myself to a woman knowing that I have a visual disadvantage and women may think I can’t take care of them or I can’t amount because I can’t drive or something and how do I handle not being able to say visual cues like a winkHey man! Good to hear that despite your condition, you are getting back on your feet and starting to flirt. What I think will work best on your situation is confidence and self-sarcasm. I'd strongly suggest to use your condition as an advantage (act and behave like it is) instead of trying to play it down. Never pity yourself either. Take a look at this guy Dating Coach on Wheels. When you approach, you can use your condition as an advantage by employing self sarcasm and teases to break the ice … | /r/seduction | 13/01/20 08:39 AM |
| 1 | Is confidence killing your game?Some women do have this sense ... Well, it depends on your setting/culture and target audience. "Some" is how many? If they are few, is it worth changing your approach for those few ones? If, from the girls you approach, the ratio of those who explicitly opt for more shy guys, than those who respond better to more cocky ones is high, and you are indeed finding yourself often getting rejected for being too cocky, then maybe you can tone-down a bit. On the other hand I advocate that you should not… | /r/seduction | 12/01/20 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Met with a previous mutual crush...with complications...No man! Be a decent man and walk away. Laugh it off. Oh, two people who had high-school crush on each other and didn't say a thing... big deal! There are countless other single girls out there for you mate. No reason to mess her marriage up, or mess yourself up with guilt. You both made your decisions back at high-school and at the dinner. The only reason you are thinking about it is because you are single AF and not having abundance in your life. Go out to meet other girls. | /r/seduction | 12/01/20 01:02 PM |
| 1 | I'm a complete beginner and I approached 7 women tonight; got rejected by all 7. No, it doesn't make me feel better at all. I want to be castrated so I can finally stop thinking about women. I hate them so much.So, before you approached those girls, you didn't hate women? Or did you just go out in order to confirm your hate? | /r/seduction | 12/01/20 12:57 PM |
| 0 | Is confidence killing your game?I agree with what you say, women can see right through you. They are very good at it. And awkwardness and nervousness should be embraced and even used as conversation starters or teases. However, just keep an eye on this one: If you want some evidence, Sasha Daygame conveniently recently interviewed a bunch of women, and they repeat those 2 complaints over and over again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWquT0V0YWU Not really the best idea to take the word of girls on how they prefer to be appro… | /r/seduction | 12/01/20 10:01 AM |
| 1 | We all know girls are attracted to guys who don’t give a fuckGame with many girls. Have abundance | /r/seduction | 11/01/20 11:25 PM |
| 1 | Imagine you’re reading the best book in the world on how to develop your social circle, what concepts would this book contain?help me out... your point? | /r/seduction | 11/01/20 10:14 PM |
| 1 | Imagine you’re reading the best book in the world on how to develop your social circle, what concepts would this book contain?Basically, one of my good buddies and I moved to SF 4.5 years ago not knowing anyone. We had to jumpstart our social circle from scratch and make new friends. pff, easy peasy, if you already have a friend with you, you can do whatever you want without stress (because at the end of the day you'll still have each other). It is essentially the reason why you magically become super-good at flirting once you actually get a girlfriend! Of course it will work better than moving to a new town absolutely… | /r/seduction | 11/01/20 09:19 AM |
| 0 | Imagine you’re reading the best book in the world on how to develop your social circle, what concepts would this book contain?Yes.. Well, it is more rudimentary actually. If you haven't read it yet, I'd start from there. It covers essentially the skills and mindset you need to interact effectively with people by offering actual value to their lives. Essentially how to make people like you, listen to you, get influenced/led by you, and generally how to make them want to stick around (i.e. social circle). This, and the fundamentals of outer game is practically all you need. | /r/seduction | 11/01/20 09:10 AM |
| 0 | Imagine you’re reading the best book in the world on how to develop your social circle, what concepts would this book contain?Pretty much all the concepts covered in "how to win friends an influence people" | /r/seduction | 10/01/20 10:07 PM |
| 1 | Second date, but confused about intentions...She wouldn’t agree to this kind of date if she wasn’t at least tangentially interested right? I am not inside her mind of course, but, if I had to bed, here is what I think went down: She was attracted to you, (and if not attracted, then at least interested), so she agreed for the first date. You made her have a good time, so she sticked around for the hike as well. However, she was let down when she expected that you just might be the one, but instead you remained platonic like you didn't even … | /r/seduction | 10/01/20 08:07 PM |
| 1 | Second date, but confused about intentions...In my past when I wasn’t looking for anything I often got tremendous results. Now that I’m failing I’m obsessing over it which makes me want it that much more and fail that much more. you give answers yourself here mate. It's no surprise that when you gave less (figurative) fucks, you got laid a lot more. Remember how your mindset was different back then: How relaxed you were and how detached from the outcome, and more importantly, how your behavior communicated to her: "I don't care if you want… | /r/seduction | 10/01/20 07:44 PM |
| 1 | I'm a 24 year old male virgin - help/adviceHey hey man! I am glad I could help even for a bit. Making girls regard me as a sex-worthy guy instead of a good harmless friend was my Number #1 issue as well. I used to approach many girls but always ended up in the friendzone. The issue, as I get it now, is twofold: You are not making your intentions clear from the start. I mean you don't want go to a girl and act like a harmless jester in order to make her comfortable. Comfort is fine and required, but you sould be making your intentions cle… | /r/seduction | 10/01/20 10:31 AM |
| 2 | I'm a 24 year old male virgin - help/adviceHey hey. The worst thing you can do is to feel anxiety about it. It eats you up slowly from inside. Let things unfold without stress. I don't mean to remain an idle passive observer. I mean that, as life unfolds, you should be 1) setting yourself up for success by having a plan and creating opportunities and 2) readily take advantage of those opportunities (i.e. "ride the wave"). Anxiety and stress should not be part of either. I know it is easier said than done, but feeling bad or stressed abou… | /r/seduction | 09/01/20 11:14 PM |
| 1 | Can’t get over first love/relationship that happened years agoSounds like your first love was the "right one", that's why you are constantly longing for her and comparing every new encounter with her. It is indeed regrettable that you had to break up, but that's life, and I am sure you both had your reasons. I don't have any tip or "technique" to win her back, and anyone who claims otherwise it just wasting your time. IMHO, it is not a good idea to try to fix what is already broken. Instead, what I would advise you is to try to come in terms with the fact … | /r/seduction | 08/01/20 01:46 PM |
| 11 | I’m so fucking tired of dealing with girls’ stupid games; I’m going to put my own goals and interests in front of chasing girls for a while.Hijacking your top comment for some petty comic relief | /r/seduction | 24/12/19 06:32 AM |
| 2 | I called it and it worked! [FR]Thank you for you input. I too have blown it with other girls in the past for having IOI's but not taking action. I guess I get caught up in the moment when I finally get a girl obviously interested, that I get stuck overthinking the transition (to getting the number and going on the date), when it is actually so much simple. | /r/seduction | 23/12/19 08:58 PM |
| 11 | Did you ever regret not committing to a girl because you wanted to search for your perfect someone?depends on how you gauge "compatibility". A sexual relationship isn't a professional relationship. If you say you are compatible only because you, as a couple, fit into widely accepted social and cultural norms (e.g. optimal age-gap, similar looks, similar social status/wealth, common friends, career opportunities, etc. etc.), but in the meantime you don't feel enough sexual attraction for the other person, then you are not compatible. At least not at that point in your life. Breaking up did bot… | /r/seduction | 23/12/19 03:17 PM |
| 1 | Should I go back and ask for number?If you have a question for someone you can just go and ask it. Anything less is neediness. You can go and ask her "hey are we gonna grab lunch sometime?" anytime lol Yeah. OP did that. She said yes. He gave her his number. It is her responsibility to text/call him now. There is no point asking her again. | /r/seduction | 23/12/19 11:35 AM |
| 0 | Alright, help me figure out where I went wrongHad a good time with you. Fucked somebody else. Now she is confused because she prefers to invest in the other guy (maybe because she knows that you won't be around so often, or he is better looking, better in bed, etc.). She had lunch with you and got back to her place because she feels comfortable enough around you, she wouldn't like to loose you, and also likes the attention and validation. In the future you can try setting the mood for the "date" beforehand. E.g. you should have primed her t… | /r/seduction | 23/12/19 10:44 AM |
| 2 | Should I go back and ask for number?Of course you can go get what you want. But don't specifically go for her. If she happens to be nearby while you shop, you can smile and say hi and talk about something else. But don't mention the date or the number. Act like it didn't happen, unless she brings it up herself. | /r/seduction | 23/12/19 10:25 AM |
| 4 | Should I go back and ask for number?Let it go. She will text. "But what if she lost the number? Or she smudged it for example?" I hear you asking! It's OK, it was her responsibility to keep it anyway. Please, don't go back to the store with the sole purpose to see her again and ask her what happened. This is cringy and needy AF! Instead, you could go again in a month or two for shopping and, if she is there, talk to her again. Meanwhile, go out and meet other girls. | /r/seduction | 23/12/19 10:13 AM |
| 2 | Of course you should lift, but what about stretching?physio-therapist helps me with that. The idea is to counter-balance the twisting and bending of the spine, so that it "untwines" to its original straight form and length. This is achieved by special massaging, strengthening and stretching exercises and conscious posture fixing while standing. I can't tell you the exact exercises because obviously these are built around my own "bending". However they involve mainly lower-back, hamstring and leg stretches, as there is the need to release the twist… | /r/TheRedPill | 22/12/19 10:34 PM |
| 3 | Of course you should lift, but what about stretching?Yeah, There is a physical balance between becoming stronger and becoming more flexible. One should not neglect neither. I've seen quite a lot of people having done almost no exercise during their teenage years, and thus get all sorts of problems, scoliosis, kyphosis, bad neck, etc. And then, wanting to improve their health and sex life, start hitting the gym in their 20's, but they all have horrible forms. They may get a bit more buff, but all those core exercises only aggravate their spine prob… | /r/TheRedPill | 22/12/19 06:30 PM |
| 8 | Indirect vs direct openers if you are not typically considered attractiveWhile I do agree with you, I generally observe that most of the time, the girls have a higher chance sleeping with you when you exert *both* comfort and sexual attraction. Being direct and polarizing does indeed create attraction, but you also have to also make the girl comfortable. Being friendly, indirect and nonthreatening builds comfort. Being upfront, polarizing and unpredictable builds sexual tension. The best interactions are usually a repeating banter bouncing between *comfort* and *attr… | /r/seduction | 22/12/19 05:22 PM |
| 2 | Indirect vs direct openers if you are not typically considered attractiveIt depends. Being direct takes balls and few people do it. It may creep out some girls, such as the more timid/defensive ones, especially if your appearance is threatening or serious. You don't necessarily have to be "cute" or "good-looking", just have to have a "warm" external image. However, more ballsy and out-going girls will really appreciate directness and you actually get an advantage over them. On the other hand, opening indirect has the advantage of getting less negative responses in ge… | /r/seduction | 22/12/19 05:16 PM |
| 1 | After spending so much time on theory & then taking a break from this subreddit & others, I've noticed that a lot of the 1000s of pages of advice is just a lengthy way of saying "learn how to be good at banter while owning what you say, having boundaries, and not being reactive. Then just approach".Well, it makes sense. Seduction is a high-level intricate human interaction, and there are millions of different cases, but the baseline mechanisms that govern it are pretty much the same throughout every case. However, these concepts are not very easy to grasp and it needs both theoretical knowledge as well as practice in order to become better. Even if the basics are the same, here are so many different advice and so many different approaches because different advice are ingested better by dif… | /r/seduction | 18/12/19 01:33 PM |
| 3 | Woman here....He dodges meeting up with you, but still shows up to your house, and buys you stuff. He doesn't have a cellphone (why? He is not poor to be able to afford presents. Is he into some sort of conspiracy theory? This is a big red flag no matter what way you see it).. Anyway, you can always keep following along if you believe he is a man of high value. However, be mindful regarding the reason you are investing. Is it because he is indeed high-value or you have nothing better going on. | /r/seduction | 06/10/19 06:27 PM |
| 6 | Woman here....For all I can tell, he already sounds a lot more "psycho" than you | /r/seduction | 06/10/19 11:41 AM |
| 5 | Woman here....IMO, what you can do is just give him hints for him to take. The best hint is, of course, to show interest. Text him first, ask him stuff about himself, remember things he told you, give him compliments, make plans, be available if he asks you out (or make effort to find a suitable schedule, instead of leaving it to "we will talk next week"), etc. IMO this is the best a girl can do. Guys are always in the dilema "Is she just friendly/polite, or is she flirting?", but this is actually out first t… | /r/seduction | 06/10/19 11:37 AM |
| 1 | The problem with women that have tattoos, and why its a major red flagI like girls with tattoos. I mean, I really like if a girl (who is already quite good-looking) also has tasteful tattoos. I mean, I do like her more, but I guess that's just taste. Also, it is true that tattooed girls tend to be somewhat more impulsive, but I use this to get sex more quickly. Like if I hit it off with a heavily-tattooed girl, I can almost guarantee I will be able to get sex on the first date (so, it's win I guess?) | /r/TheRedPill | 20/09/19 06:45 AM |
| 6 | Here's everything I've learned about women, dating, sex, PUA, and seduction in my decades of life.Nice! Thank you for the informative and thoughtful response! | /r/seduction | 05/09/19 07:30 AM |
| 77 | Here's everything I've learned about women, dating, sex, PUA, and seduction in my decades of life.Make her WANT to. Can you elaborate a bit on that? I often find myself negotiating, but when I reach that point I know I am doing something wrong. How do you make her want to? You just push-pull? | /r/seduction | 04/09/19 09:12 PM |
| 5 | Things I've learned recently about being one of those "Nice Guys" for the inexperiencedIMHO, the thing most women detest about Nice Guys is how their behaviour suggests that she should owe them something for being nice | /r/seduction | 28/08/19 05:18 AM |
| 2 | Feeling hopeless and need a bit of adviceman. Listen to other comments here! You are very hard on yourself. What you told us only points to the correct course of action. You were a recluse, not really sociable and fun, but now you are going out, meeting girls, approaching them sexually, had a girl really into you. Congrats man! No! I really mean it! Congrats. You had the balls to take action, and, as it seems from the results, this action was the right one. You can't even fathom how many people are struggling even to stand up from thei… | /r/seduction | 17/08/19 06:26 PM |
| 10 | I just got approached by a guy who played the game perfectly!Translation: he was cute and smooth alright, however the fact that he "gamed" me gave me really mixed feelings about him. So, I will come up with some vague excuse to delay him. If nothing better comes along, and he keeps trying (test of his "loyalty"), I might give him a chance | /r/seduction | 13/08/19 09:38 PM |
| 1 | AdviceTalk to her while on the train. Introduce yourself and tell her that you see her at work (supposing that you have not talked at all). Ask her work-related stuff. Try to find out what she likes to do after work, and find some common interests. Maybe after that, keep building rapport at work for a few days. Talk to her when you see her, etc. Keep it friendly and cool. Tease her a lot if you can! NEVER say anything sexual during work. You can also propose to do some group activity after work with o… | /r/seduction | 13/08/19 09:55 AM |
| 2 | Made it to date, was too nice, need adviceAs I said, she has already made up her mind about you, so it doesn't really matter how long you will wait. Ask her around the time you will be available for such date. In any case however, you can put the suggestion on the table right away. E.g. tell her that you had a good time, but now it is her turn to cook, if she agrees, tell her that you are going to get back to her with a date you will be available some time later next week. Keep it playful, but not suggestive (as it will now sound weird … | /r/seduction | 09/08/19 10:07 PM |
| 3 | Made it to date, was too nice, need adviceTough situation. The girl sticked around for such a lengthy date is certainly a good sign. Agreeing to meet at your place is also positive (but why move outside?). However, not taking the initiative to make ANY sexual move is a deal-breaker for almost all cases I have heard of (and lived myself as well), even with far more positive signs. Having said that, how did you gauge her? Did she look like a girl who wants to take things slow? I stress "look like" and not "said", because she could be sayi… | /r/seduction | 09/08/19 09:09 PM |
| 1 | As a 24 year old kissless virgin, I honestly have no idea why women arne't attracted to me.Sure man. I am no coach or PUA though. | /r/seduction | 09/08/19 08:36 AM |
| 0 | "You're a great guy, but I don't find you attractive"I made a post here some time ago and I was facing this exact problem. I mean, I was (still am) really struggling with dating. I don't know if it is in my head or not (probably at least a small part it is), but I know, I am convinced that I can't live up to the standards of the girls I like. There is always someone better, someone more fun, someone more good-looking, someone taller, so why the fuck would she loose her time with me. I am certainly not treated the same as my good-looking, or even a… | /r/seduction | 08/08/19 09:53 AM |
| 2 | As a 24 year old kissless virgin, I honestly have no idea why women arne't attracted to me.Simple answer: You are getting rejected because you don't elicit enough attractive feelings to the girls you are flirting with. There can be many reasons for that, and every girl is different and unique, so the reasons for each girl may differ. However, there are some common factors that decide attraction. I won't go into detail, but you can find a lot of resources in this sub. Also try to read some of the books people are recommending here. These might answer your question regarding as to why y… | /r/seduction | 07/08/19 03:14 PM |
| 7 | As a 24 year old kissless virgin, I honestly have no idea why women arne't attracted to me.That's the easy way around. That's called "overcompensation". That's why almost every seduction coach out there moved from actually helping guys "get gurls" towards self-help and "being happy with yourself" (take RSD as a glowing example). They figured out that it is much easier to teach unattractive guys to embrace themselves, forget girls and go do something fulfilling with their life (and be just one more well-adjusted well-lubed cog in the society), than actually help them get the hot girl(s… | /r/seduction | 07/08/19 02:28 PM |
| 1 | How many girls/dates did it take till you found a girl who you connect with?For me, "clicking" is broken down into 3 types of matching: Physical. This is the most basic one. The more (subjectively) good-looking she is, and the more I enjoy getting physical with her (sex, cuddling, hugging, etc.), the more I want to be with her. Character. This is her character traits and how much they are in-line with yours. This includes humor, or how she behaves when she is angry/frustrated/happy/etc. or, more simply-put, her core-values. It is not a matter of good or bad character tr… | /r/seduction | 06/08/19 02:13 PM |
| 2 | How do you keep female friends?Yeah, I am pretty good at doing that. Hell, I'd say that if there were "friendzone olympics" I would probably be competing for gold medal in the past. However, this was long ago. Now, I either sexually approach a girl I like, or not interact at all with a girl I don't like. The question is rather if it is worth to approach/interact with girls you are not sexually attracted to, just so that you have female friends? Is this social value worth your time? Alternatively, say you do like a girl, you d… | /r/seduction | 18/07/19 11:05 AM |
| 1 | Does height matter to girls?My problem is that I am funny and shit and I had more than one girl explicitly tell me that they are having an amazing time while with me, and how I am the perfect 10/10 man in terms of character, lifestyle, etc, however they would not consider me to be their boyfriend cause of my height. Which sucks to be honest. It shows that, in some cases, no matter how you hard you compensate, you will still lose cause of some freaking squiggly boiz you have no control over (DNA) | /r/seduction | 01/07/19 05:26 PM |
| 1 | This is what happened when I posed as a semi-attractive girl on tinder for a little over 8 hours, I give up on life lolPff. You should have seen my sister the first time she made a tinder profile. Like, she uploaded one picture and then put her phone down. Picked it up literally 5 minutes later and she already got that "100+" on the number of Likes. And she is far from hot. Maybe towards the "cute" side, but still a 7/10 at best. The saddest part was to see her swipe left at ALMOST EVERYONE. When asked, she gave the STUPIDEST reasons ("I didn't like his T-shirt", "he looks tryhard", "too muscular", "he looked li… | /r/seduction | 27/06/19 07:22 PM |
| 1 | When you stop and think about it, it's crazy how much society pushes this idea that you are not good enough for beautiful women...It's complete bullshit because the guys writing and believing this are basing this belief solely on her physical appearance and literally nothing else, it's pretty cringe if you think about it. yet you were at the gym | /r/seduction | 28/05/19 06:23 AM |
| 8 | is it over if a girl mentions her boyfriend in a conversation?He never was your friend. You can of course have guy friends, just not this particular dude. I am pretty sure that there are plenty of desperate dudes who would beg for just your fart. | /r/seduction | 27/05/19 07:16 AM |
| 17 | is it over if a girl mentions her boyfriend in a conversation?I would agree with everything you said if this wasn't in the office environment. If OP is in the US, then physical touching and strong eye contact can be easily translated into workplace sexual harassment, no matter how well or bad is executed (and certainly workplace is not the place to practice). I would suggest OP to be only friendly (and not flirty at all) while at work. Talk to her a bit more, find out more about her and then recommend to do an activity together (like a concert, or a sport,… | /r/seduction | 27/05/19 06:49 AM |
| 1 | [FR] Got sex. It didn’t fix me guys.To me, it sounds like you are moving in the right direction. Yes, now you need something more. Something a bit more fulfilling and meaningful than ONS and "just sex". A chance to be a better person and feel better about yourself. But would you have reached this state if you had not gone through these experiences already? So, maybe you did become a tiny bit of a better person after all. I see no point pondering over the past. You wanted something, you went for it and you got it (maybe these girls… | /r/seduction | 24/05/19 06:36 PM |
| 4 | Fuck itPersonally, I think moderation in everything is key. These habits are indeed good, but it's perfectly OK if you don't overdo it. You don't need to cut-off porn, but if you watch porn, like 2 hours a day, you do need to reduce it because yes, porn has some bad effects on your brain plus you are spending 2 hours doing nothing! But then again, equally bad is also abstinence (sexual frustration, repressed sexuality, etc.). Same with others. It is perfectly OK to drink a cup of coffee with half spoon… | /r/seduction | 23/05/19 05:58 AM |
| 2 | Fuck itOK, tell us the numbers. How many different girls/month were you laying before and how many girls/month are you laying now after these lifestyle changes (factor-out experience talking to girls)? What was the single most important thing you did? How have interactions with girls or other people improved? | /r/seduction | 23/05/19 05:43 AM |
| 1 | What are some "worked like a charm" examples of PUSH/PULL strategy you applied to get a girl chase you like hell?Chill man. You are not defending nobody No, playing with somebody's feelings is not OK either. Because something is honest, it does not make it right. I didn't say what I did was right. I just reciprocated accordingly. That's all. She didn't respect my feelings, I didn't respect hers, and, guess what, it worked out just fine. Because I treat people in the way they treat me and not like some holy grail on pedestals. I like to set my boundaries with everyone. If you cross them, you are in for a sh… | /r/seduction | 14/05/19 06:22 PM |
| -1 | What are some "worked like a charm" examples of PUSH/PULL strategy you applied to get a girl chase you like hell?Having someone tell you that they prefer your friend right in your face (especially after opening up to to them) is really fucked as well. Plus, it worked | /r/seduction | 14/05/19 10:06 AM |
| 15 | What are some "worked like a charm" examples of PUSH/PULL strategy you applied to get a girl chase you like hell?I opened up to this girl once (I mean really cheesy stuff) but she was really confused and she didn't want to take it further. She told me that she does not like me in that way, she only sees me as a friend, blah, blah. So I respected it and backed off. Soon she initiated contact herself, we started talking again a bit but now as friends. We went out once more in a mixed group. There, I isolated her and started telling her cheesy stuff again, only to have her reply that she is really rather attr… | /r/seduction | 13/05/19 05:50 PM |
| 1 | it sucks being a old virgin but im improving lolNo, not you... :) | /r/seduction | 13/05/19 10:57 AM |
| 2 | it sucks being a old virgin but im improving lolWell, I have been to 3 dates the past 2 months alone and NONE of these girls considered me attractive (they explicitly stated it one way or another when I revealed I had feelings for them). When asked why did they decide to go out with me, they all said that it was because they have an otherwise great time with me (but see me only as a friend). FML | /r/seduction | 13/05/19 10:53 AM |
| 1 | It sounds silly, but this helped me: seduction is like Dark Souls.What it gets me is that for some people it constantly feels like dark souls (even after you have "mastered" the basics, it still is hella hard). While for others, it is like CoD on easy. You also have stats, which you have improve to proceed. You can have good tecnique and knowledge, but if you are too weak, it's hard to win. The beauty of the game however if you can win even with the starting, weakest build if you master the tecnique. I like this analogy. Essentially it means that if you keep t… | /r/seduction | 10/05/19 07:37 AM |
| -6 | Not sure what to say next. Please helpMan why not tell her exactly what's on your mind? Simple as that. "I understand. However I am not interested in being your friend. Have a nice day." | /r/seduction | 03/05/19 07:07 AM |
| 1 | A quick cautionary tale: you can't win by picking "good girls"Be a good friend and show him the error of his mindset by boning her yourself (since words dont seem to be any effective with him) | /r/TheRedPill | 29/04/19 05:43 PM |
| 1 | "I see you only as a friend" plagueSo you say: I ask a girl on a date (so she gets the idea that I like her) and then act friendly with some light touching here and there, but say or do nothing that would suggest that I sexually like her (so as to confuse her)? Then go out again and be more touchy/flirty and go e.g. for a kiss... Well, as a strategy it does make some sense. I could do that, however every single piece of literature I know suggests to the opposite! e.g. go for a kiss as soon as possible and don't dwell with friendl… | /r/seduction | 24/04/19 11:03 AM |
| 1 | "I see you only as a friend" plagueThank you for your comment, and thanks for providing valuable input. The thing is that I believe none of these girls would have liked me that way anyway, no matter how sexual I was. They would have just ended it right when I met them (plus that would just make me a creep). I know that there is a problem with my approach. Maybe I'll try being more direct and less playful. | /r/seduction | 24/04/19 08:46 AM |
| 1 | "I see you only as a friend" plagueI am 165cm (5'6" I believe). Eastern European. I did have but nothing special. | /r/seduction | 24/04/19 08:39 AM |
| 1 | How does one accept responsibility without becoming a doormat?There is this concept of "frame". The frame means that you are dictating "your reality" to those around you. This reality can be heartwarming and welcoming or oppressive and abusive. It depends on the person. IMO, accepting responsibility for a task is a sign of strong frame. Let's say you are given a task at work and your team fucks it up. It will be your head in the line and accepting the responsibility of your team's failure (or success in another case) is actually a trait of a strong and gro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/18 11:32 AM |
| 0 | In all honesty, what was MrDeadMoth actually supposed to do?If I were a dumb bum like MrDeadMoth who married and impregnated a psychotic and clearly unstable bitch, the best thing I could do is, (assuming relative physical superiority, though this assumption is pretty daring considering the boy looks like he doesn't even lift), to promptly move the wife outside the room and lock her out. Kids could have stayed as they appear to be only minor nuisance. He would have avoided reaching the point to hit her and, if he acted quickly, he maybe could have time a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/18 05:56 PM |
| 1 | Would you date and marry a woman who you slept with on the first night you met?she's already shown [you] that she's willing to give it up to a high-value man on the first night, what's to stop her from trying to lock down an even higher value man? I believe that you see this as a black-and-white situation while it is clearly not. I don't believe women are like robots programmed in if-then-else logic. As I said, hooking up in the first date is a combination of a variety of parameters. Even in today's society where everybody has become a lot more "cold" and "practical", I hi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/18 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Would you date and marry a woman who you slept with on the first night you met?If we were seriously dating or we were married with the girl, of course I would be upset if she slept with you on the first date. But I would be equally upset if she slept with you on the 2nd or 3rd. What difference does it make? I still can't see the dealbreaker. I can't see how infidelity is linked with having sex on the first date (assuming it is infidelity that we are talking about here, and not, say, her ability to cook). For me, even if she denies you sex on the first date, but still goes … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/18 04:10 PM |
| 2 | CMV: I don't understand how anyone can take relationship advice from /r/TheRedPill seriouslyI don't understand how anyone would take relationship advice from anywhere on the internet seriously | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/18 10:36 PM |
| 1 | Would you date and marry a woman who you slept with on the first night you met?Still, they have to be at least moderatelly sexually attracted to me within like 1 hour from meeting me to fuck me on the same night. Otherwise they'd fuck somebody else. All I m saying is that it is not a deakbreaker for me, but quite the contrary | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/18 10:31 PM |
| 1 | Would you date and marry a woman who you slept with on the first night you met?I still fail to see the logic as to why this would be a dealbreaker for marriage | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/18 10:24 PM |
| 2 | Would you date and marry a woman who you slept with on the first night you met?I agree, but I am answering how sleeping on the first date is not a deal breaker in any case | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/18 10:23 PM |
| 2 | Would you date and marry a woman who you slept with on the first night you met?Personally, I would want the person I am marrying to regard me as her best freaking choice given her circumstances, and remain loyal because of that and not some pair bonding shit. similarly, i'd be loyal for the same reasons. If she leaves, so be it. I may have been the reason as well. But i'd prefer to live a short happy marriage than to not try at all | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/18 10:21 PM |
| 2 | Why are girls so off about height? Does this confirm that most women do only look at tall men?This should be on the freaking sidebar, but here it is for you: what girls declare/announce/say has Nothing to do with what girls respond to! I am not saying that girls don't prefer taller guys. Yes, they do in the same way most men prefer girls with nice ass or boobs. I'd bet the those girls you overheard have indeed slept with a 6'2" at some point. However, I also bet that they would be equally down to fuck with a 5'6" who gamed them right. After all, attraction is about feelings (more so in g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/18 09:24 AM |
| 33 | Would you date and marry a woman who you slept with on the first night you met?Why wouldn't I marry a chick who was so attracted to me as to be down to sleep with me on the first date? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/18 07:53 AM |
| 1 | What makes a man attractive to a woman ?I’d like to hear from redditors of R/PurplePillDebate as to what makes a man attractive to a woman. Errr... no! Don't do that! Better ask somewhere else. r/seduction is WAY better place to be asking things about how to become more attractive. In any case. You are still very young so you can fix almost everything. Don't waste your time circle-jerking the problem. Find someone who knows their shit and ask them. Personally I'd recommend to take a look at "The subtle art of not giving and Fuck" and,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/18 05:53 PM |
| 2 | Everyone wants to be a slut but no one wants to date a slut.So why are women forgiving of promiscuity in other women but find it gross in men? Because double standards, that's why. seriously now, women's declarations do not reflect what women actually do or respond to. How many times do we have to say that? Because a girl says that she dislikes men who sleep around, this does not mean that she won't sleep with a womanizer (and enjoy herself). You say that women (or better "people") shouldn't be shamed for having very active sex lives and I agree as well!… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 10:06 PM |
| 1 | There Should Be More Legal Distinctions Between Sex CrimesI think the next step in the MeToo movement is to create more nuances in the legal structure as it pertains to sex crimes. first of all, MeToo is not a legal entity. It is just a bunch of people with a hashtag and their aim is to make other people come front with their sexual assault experiences. They do not have any power or saying towards the law. It is none of their business. A more descriptive legal system would also have the added effect of alleviating a lot of women’s guilt and fear over r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 09:51 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men should focus on good looks first, then maybe personality.No, this not an exception. You can get heir transplant, you can get height-adjustment surgery (extension of your legs essentially), you could move to china... Well there are a lot or options for you. For some people these are the natural next steps, while others won't even consider them due to cost, trouble, pain, stress, etc. So in these cases, keep fixing your looks isn't probably the most efficient way. Of course, if you have everything else sort of sorted out, but you still look like a trump… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 06:58 PM |
| 1 | This Youtube video I found kind of fucked with my head and made me see something in myself that was holding me back a lot. I'd never heard any one else talk about it so I thought I'd share (TL;DR stop chasing self-esteem/confidence in life, instead just try to be as self-compassionate as possible).Interesting viewpoint. Much inner and spiritual. As I get it, compassion is a way to handle both good and bad events in your life. However, I feel there are 2 points missing here: First, who gives the incentive to change? This is not compassion. Compassion is static, it is self-acceptance. What drives man forward is his desire to improve himself and the world around him. This may sound selfish, or some kind of over-compensation, but it is true. No-one got into seduction and pick-up because he wa… | /r/seduction | 05/12/18 06:08 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men should focus on good looks first, then maybe personality.Women are attracted to men that they make them feel a certain way. Some men elicit these feelings by looks alone, others with confidence, others with humor, others with money, etc. Truth is that almost always it is a mixture of everything. Having said that, No I don't agree with you that, as a rule of thumb, men should focus on their looks first (assuming that their goal is to get laid). They should start with anything that is going to give them an edge with the least effort possible. If you are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 06:03 PM |
| 1 | What does this subreddit think about "spreadsheet guy"?his last attempt to what? Sex. This is accounts to my definition of "forcing". Anyway. All I am saying is that he could make as many spreadsheets as he wanted. He could also just file a divorce the day the "threshold" was exceeded. The point of revealing it to his spouse wasn't for entertainment or anything else other than put pressure on her. This reveals not only immature character but also total lack of female psychology (we all know that girls and logic do not exactly go hand-in-hand) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 06:08 PM |
| 2 | What does this subreddit think about "spreadsheet guy"?It is a person's right to document whatever he wants. It is also a person's right to deny doing anything that he/she does not want to do (without even having to supply a reason). There is no right or wrong here. There is noone to defend. They are both in shit. Woman obviously does not have good sex with the person she vowed to spend the rest of her life with, and the man went as far as making a spreadsheet to somehow (in his mind) force her into it. There is a saying in my language: "When you st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/18 09:19 PM |
| 1 | Can men and women ever become platonic friends?Sure, you are right and what you say makes sense. However, based on your own "hotness score" let me make one assumption and you tell me if it sounds correct or not. You are dating a 6.5 and an old friend 8, for some reasons, starts hitting on you for a hookup. I am inclined to think that you would bite it. Now assume that you had a relationship with an 8 (frequent sex and all), and your friend 6.5 starts hitting on you. I think that you would pass, right. The point is that this "friend" should a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/18 11:46 PM |
| 8 | Can men and women ever become platonic friends?Yes, they can but only under certain circumstances I have a silly personal rule-of-thumb to determine when a man and a woman can be friends without ever either one getting feelings for the other: If and only if they are both recently sexually satiated with people having higher perceived sexual value than the "friend" Sexually satiated: had sex, or intimacy, or strong prospect of getting intimate in the future (e.g. long-distance-relationship) Recently: The time it takes for sexual abstinence to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/18 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Do you actually want an "easy" woman for a casual hookup? Or do you like it when you have to win the girl over and play the game of seduction?Since I am missing out on all this casual hook-up, I'd prefer a that the woman makes it "easy" for me. However, I must admit that if a girl comes at me and actually does all the work ("hey, let's go to my place for sum fuk") and me not saying a word, it *will* feel a bit odd to say the least | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/18 03:51 PM |
| 3 | Red pill says fuck other girls while in ltr. What do you say?Pretty radical. I wouldn't do it. However, I have heard it somewhat differently. TRP does not tell you to commit adultery, but it rather opens your eyes and tells you that cheating is something you should be prepared for at any time, because a woman's mind is able to rationalize even the most devious thought. Even if you have been together and she is the love of your life for the last 20 years, she can cheat you the next day. When you internalize this hard-to-swallow pill, then having yourself s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/18 05:06 PM |
| 2 | Why Don't Men Value Success In Women?You want to be financially successful A man (or person) wants to be successful in life all-around. This includes finances, health, socially, romantically, etc. If one goes beyond the others, or one lags behind, it tends to pull the rest of the other areas. In any case, within the concept of an LTR, the man, of course, takes into account finances of her partner in the same way that he takes into account her appearance, her character, her social status, the way she talks, her fashion, etc. It is j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 12:03 PM |
| 1 | How can woman avoid being played and used?I still can't find the purpose of this post however. Women who are honest about it don't need it but those who claim otherwise are just not honest about themselves? if that so, maybe a sensible first step would be to guide those towards honesty, or, trying to understand why they claim otherwise, instead of trying to push towards and build upon a fallacy, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/18 06:20 PM |
| 2 | How can woman avoid being played and used?There isn’t a girl alive who will admit that she likes being played. Ladies, if you’ve ever wanted to figure out whether your mystery man is getting some other action on the side, you are in for a treat. Here’s your guide to spotting cads while trying to find your tame, submissive, and monogamous dream man. You clearly have no idea how this works right? Username checks out. Even from the first paragraph you seem immature and inexperienced AF. Yet you go as far as to give relationship "advice"? I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 05:55 PM |
| 3 | How can woman avoid being played and used?I was preparing to send a long-ass response, but I'll leave it to the following: It would be a far greater achievement to make a man with many options choose to stay with you, than to find a man who stays with you because he has no other options (sounds pathetic, right?) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 05:41 PM |
| 2 | Just because a girl "likes" you doesn't mean she is a good fit for youAmen to that! | /r/seduction | 09/11/18 05:31 PM |
| 1 | Opening girls by themselves late at night?Approaching a girl who is alone at 2am is a bad idea! Take it from her perspective. She got drunk, lost her friends, moving somewhere else, waiting for someone, whatever. Being alone (and probably tipsy) in the middle of the night can be quite scary for a girl (a LOT more so than for a guy). She feels vulnerable to being harassed, followed home, raped, you name it. Chances are that she just wants to get safely home or to her friends or wherever. Meeting someone new is the last thing that crosses… | /r/seduction | 08/11/18 05:57 PM |
| 1 | Meeting PeopleMaybe over the weekend? (If you are working over the weekend, you'd better be making enough money to afford regular escorts and stop worrying about high-value girls) As to "how", the answer is through friends, hobbies, gym, work, social activities. Attraction is another issue however and has nothing to do with "formal credentials" as Stacy proved to you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/18 01:50 PM |
| 127 | Please help guys. I don't know what's wrong with me.I can tell that you are a pretty emotional guy. Most people will tell you that being emotional is weak. In reality, it just means that you are more connected to your feelings, and this is a good thing when trying to connect with women (who are also very emotional). However, it is your emotion that keep you from approaching, not your conscious logic. There are several ways to overcome this and train your brain to do what you actually want it to do. Right now, your brain is wired to link approachi… | /r/seduction | 08/11/18 08:10 AM |
| 1 | Coaxing a first time, very nervous girlJust note that the things women declare are not necessarily what they actually respond to. In fact, it rarely is. So don't give too much weight on anything she says. Keep your frame. | /r/seduction | 07/11/18 07:45 AM |
| 2 | Coaxing a first time, very nervous girlThe first step is to find out what she really wants. Does she wants a man who will just take her virginity? Or is she looking for someone who she can invest (and she has been "keeping herself")? Whatever the case, you seem to have made up your mind about how you see her. You say that you don't intend to have an LTR with her and I trust that this is an educated decision as she was an ex-colleague who was pretty close to you. This is totally fine. However, you must be clear with your intentions as… | /r/seduction | 06/11/18 06:34 PM |
| 3 | Quality men aren't aloof assholes.These "cynical tactics" are called social acuity. Women People neg, wait X hours to reply to messages, shit-test all the time. It is not about maturity. It is about social competence. People neg because getting the attention of a hot girl by just asking for it is not efficient. (sort of the way you use sparkling fish-looking baits to catch fish instead of miniature signs saying "Come here so I can eat you") People use pick-up lines and canned material because they want fast results and it is mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/18 04:44 PM |
| 1 | Colleague who has lost his wayI know right? This is just one example. I can probably tell you about 3-4 other guys I know who really struggle with these things over the top of my head. And these are tall, muscular, successful guys. Even more a pity! IMO, they are just over-compensate with self-improvement and just avoid facing the real problem which is essentially intimacy issues. Clearly, this is something that you have to eventually deal with yourself, probably even with the help of a professional, though I have rarely see… | /r/seduction | 30/10/18 09:22 PM |
| 1 | Sex Will Only Ever Be A Temporary HighPersonally, I felt like "The Lord Of The Universe!" the first time I kissed a girl (which was pretty late age-wise). It is a matter of perception. You say "sex isn't fulfilling", OK, relative to what? Loneliness? Fapping? Porn? Trust me, just a small smile, a hug, or a kiss are enough to fulfill you. A temporary high? Maybe, but, in the same time, the most "right" thing in the world. The reassurance that you are capable to attract and be attracted. To be fair, the fulfilling thing isn't the kiss… | /r/seduction | 26/10/18 04:37 PM |
| 2 | Is there any way to help the creepy guy?You can't help it. The best thing you can do is talk to them and be VERY understanding (because I can tell that you have been really critical of that guy). You should listen to him in the same way you request that he listens to you. Try to understand why he is who he is. You could, at best, walk him through interactions that you think they were creepy and help him realize the emotions of everyone involved. However, this is where your role ends. Anything beyond a friendly talk is not your job. It… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/18 10:21 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The easiest way for weak, ugly, short, unmasculine Men to ascend in the SMP is to just get rich.Everything is better than whining. I agree. But how about trying to address the root cause of loneliness? IMO the best option is to address everything equally and in moderation. Given enough discipline, I could fix "weak", "ugly", "unmasculine" in the same manner I could fix my finances. More importantly, I could fix inner issues that are making me regard myself ugly/weak/short/unmasculine. Why isn't it as effective (or even more so)? At all times, your own self should be your greatest interest … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/18 07:58 PM |
| 3 | Does social media tarnish the getting-to-know-you process?I don't believe people are so closed-minded to base their opinions on someone mainly on their social media profile. There are a lot of things that can go wrong (person can be posting dump stuff just for fun, or others posting for him, or doing inside jokes that look bad to people who don't know, etc.) It is extremely easy to misjudge someone from a 1-second snapshot of their life Having said that, sometimes social media CAN give you some big red flags right away. For example, regularly posts cri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/18 07:56 AM |
| 1 | Does social media tarnish the getting-to-know-you process?This is the perfect scenario for a horror movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEWnXmDfVZg Sorry couldn't resist | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/18 07:48 AM |
| 2 | Going out to bars/ concerts soloIn order to efficiently go out alone you have to overcome 2 major things: One is the social stigma. People go out and do activities with friends. If you are alone, you will look "off" and seem like a creep unless you have a good excuse or something. The second point is your inner game. Sure, you can convince other people, but can you convince yourself? You will have to rationalize that going out alone is pretty much as normal as going out with friends. The point in both cases is you having a goo… | /r/seduction | 11/10/18 08:28 AM |
| 1 | The Social Etiquette of Paying for DatesBecause trying to be all open-minded and considering every possible way of thinking and sitting around waiting to see what she says and looking all awkward like maybe I don't want to pay and am waiting for her to offer first costs me points with at least 51% of the women. Yeah, that's why I suggested to impose your own frame. "I feel like paying for the drinks. I don't care what you will make off it. It feels right to me. I don't care if you consider it a wrong move or not" Offering to buy a gir… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/18 07:49 PM |
| 1 | The Social Etiquette of Paying for DatesInteresting point, but I wouldn't be so absolute. It depends on the person. You regard that a woman paying for her food means that she politely wants to reject you, whereas another guy would think that she is really caring. It is really a matter of perspective. Similarly, one girl may go "OMG, he didn't insist to pay for my dinner! What a trump! I am never seeing him again", whereas another girl may think "I really appreciated how he didn't object we split the bill as if he was expecting somethi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/18 07:25 PM |
| 2 | The Social Etiquette of Paying for DatesUnless there are strong objections, every time I go out with a girl (just the 2 of us, not as a group), I pay the bill. Period. No matter if it is a date or a friend, or if it is the first or the tenth time. I can't help it. I don't care. I am not rich or something. This is how I have been raised. Think whatever you want about me. Personally, I believe that it also looks distasteful to slit the bill especially when a man and a woman go out (I blame it on the Mediterranean culture). I do have oft… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/18 07:18 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There's nothing wrong with "riding the cock carousel"Depends. Why are you asking thing question? From what you say, you seem to have made up your mind pretty well. Is it insecurity? Do you keep thinking of yourself as a "damaged product"? Do you find it hard to connect/correlate with your partner who (I am taking a wild guess here from the term "nice") didn't fuck around in his 20s? Do you feel that you are taking advantage of him or restricting him in any way? There is absolutely nothing wrong with the plain fact that a person wanted to have fun … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/18 07:13 PM |
| 3 | CMV: An overwhelming majority of women prefer muscular menYes, the results IMO are generilizable. It is imprinted in our DNA to prefer healthy-looking people as mates. Muscular, lean, fit, strong are clear signs of health and good genes. Similarly, fit women with sizable breasts and nice hips are what men are programmed to be attracted to. We naturally gravitate towards them. We can't help it. And if we don't follow this rule, there must be something wrong up there. Fact. However, there are a couple of additional parameters: Personal Preference is what… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/18 07:05 PM |
| 3 | If men were given points for attractiveness:income:prestige, what would the weighting be?In terms of dating women only give points for the way the guy makes them feel. Period. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/18 01:01 PM |
| 1 | Fantasy vs RealityShould men be allowed to have fantasies(openly) of power and dominance perhaps even rape, if they are never going to act on them in a real environment. I don't understand what "allowed" means. I'll assume that you mean allowed to openly discuss rape fantasy with his partner. Now I see little harm in that. Fantasies and kinks are the salt and spice of a sexual relationship. Keep in mind that actual rape is not some idealized situation that you sexually crave. Actual rape is scary and traumatic. F… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/18 08:30 PM |
| 3 | Why do so many men still follow the red pill philosophy when there are so many women against that kind of thinking?Why do so many people learn to fish when there are so many fish against that kind of hobby? Because their interests aren't aligned. And because it works | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/18 05:34 PM |
| 1 | MALE SMV DECLINE - Not as great as people make it out to beIf you're mid 20's and not pulling in women now, if you are not attractive to women now, if you are incel now... this will NOT change just because you are getting older. I got my first kiss as a 30 y.o. Got my first lay in 31 y.o. Indeed I was not attractive when I was in my 20's, but now I am far more so. Yes, attractiveness declines with age, but there are so many other things that you can do to raise it. If you believe you can be 40-50 and still get hot, young women because you now have wealt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/18 04:06 PM |
| 0 | Girl has boyfriend but shows interest. Dost thou escalate?Fuck a girl who is single... meh, OK Fuck a girl who has a BF... Freaking Yeah! No, seriously though. Why do you care? You know she has a BF. How you know? Some third party told you? What relation does she have with her BF? Is she bored? Is she looking for something else? Anyway. She does not mention the BF for a reason. This is a textbook indication of interest! Escalation is what she wants. If you want her, go ahead big boy. Many girls (and guys), especially high-value ones, do not necessarily… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/18 02:49 PM |
| 1 | What do you do that pleases the opposite sex?Treat them like a fellow human being and not like some sacred/blessed/fragile creature | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/18 07:23 AM |
| 2 | He Asked Permission to Touch, but Not to GhostOK, what I get from that story is that the kid (if you could call him a "kid". He is 24, he is a fully grown man, possibly with a job, living alone, etc.) is a player. He fucked her and then ghosted her. Big deal! His skill however was how he turned her ON. It was by studying the material which a HUGE amount of women all over the globe responded to: "Fifty shades of Grey". 3/4 of the movie was Mr. Grey asking for consent in all forms of legalistic (or not) manner. It always boggled me as to WHY … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/18 07:12 AM |
| 2 | Marriage and Child developmentLook, some kids who grew up with single parents developed well, others not so well. Similarly, some kids who grew up in structured families grew up well and others not enough so, and so on. There are many other factors that apply to both cases, so, before you rush off to put the blame on loveless relationships, consider that this is really a case-by-case matter more than anything. Some factors that really are from the top of my head (I am sure you could come up with dozen more) (of course, all t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/18 05:13 PM |
| 1 | Becoming attracted to a man over timeI had a platonic date with a girl (friend) where she essentially told me several times that she knows what I want from her but she could not provide it because she does not find me attractive and sees me only as a friend (she even told me that she was really attracted to one of my friends). No reason to doubt that she meant everything she said at that time. Long story short, 2 days later and after some mental gymnastics, she eventually grabbed and kissed me herself while in my car. Couple more d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/18 06:32 AM |
| 1 | Q4men: how would you feel if a woman told you she is dating you because she followed advice on the internet to stop dating Chad and to lower her standards?If that was the truth, it would be really dumb from her perspective to declare such thing. If she was lying, it would probably be a shit test in order to gauge your reaction. In any case, I would treat it like a shit-test. Anyway, it is pretty tasteless and would drop her value in my eyes significantly. Maybe it would cause me to drop her, especially if I was looking at the relationship seriously | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/18 05:07 AM |
| 0 | A message to older rich men who prefer young womenTO END: I don't have any problem with girls wearing low-cut tops. If a girl has a big rack and feels hot wearing that piece of clothing, who am I to be mad at that? Get your cat-callings, girl! I just don't like how when these girls get assaulted and raped and then scream "You raped me!", when this is a situation they chose to get themselves into. You chose to wear that revealing outfit. There are backdraws to everything in life. So when you make the choice to show everyone how juicy are your ju… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/18 07:53 AM |
| 1 | Just a thank you letter to this community.It's essentially the author talking about how the illusion of constant positive thinking can cloud your judgement and make you think that you should be positive all the time, and how focusing on doing so can have the opposite effect. About how being in your own state ready to accept the good as well as the bad is a better way to live your life instead of constantly trying to stay in a positive mood. It's pretty interesting and definitely a new take on self help, one that resonated with me. I hav… | /r/seduction | 24/07/18 07:33 PM |
| 1 | ''Sorry, you're not my type'' = the new ''I've got a boyfriend''Got with a girl at a party and tried to flirt with her for quite some time. Eventually she told me that she knows what I want but she cannot/won't give it to me. She also kept telling me how attractive she thinks my friend was. The next day (less than 24 hours after the party), we were making out in my car where she practically grabbed and kissed me herself. I am in no way an experienced PUA or anything. I am just throwing my 2 cents here. | /r/seduction | 24/07/18 05:26 PM |
| 13 | We Are Either Attractors Or Comfort Builders; Act Accordingly"active listeners, conscientious, polite and empathetic" are good qualities in my book. I don't get how you infer that this is problematic. After all, a girl has to feel comfortable around you in order to get laid. So, attractors must also be comfort-builders as well! The issue arise when you stick to comfort-building and not getting intimate because you are too afraid of rejection and, as you said, you don't want to be hurt by anybody (and end up in the friend-zone). But I don't see how one lea… | /r/seduction | 24/07/18 05:18 PM |
| 3 | Just a thank you letter to this community.Hey man! Good job on turning your life around and becoming better and more in-love with your self. Women may come and go, but the only person you are spending every second of your life is only yourself. Better love him with all you got! And if there is anything you can do to love him even more, do it. You said that you have spent quite a lot of time and brain-power around girls and seduction. Me, and I am sure many others, would love to hear a rundown. What have you been like before in terms of … | /r/seduction | 24/07/18 04:30 PM |
| 3 | Can insecure guy (22) be non-needy?Sensitive as is "sensitive to rejection" not as in "able to feel and express his feelings". This is indeed something sought after. | /r/seduction | 05/06/18 07:52 PM |
| 9 | Can insecure guy (22) be non-needy?Introverted is not bad. Sensitive is. In order to be non-needy you need to desensitize yourself. i.e., game a girl like you don't even care about her. Of course this is not a switch you can flip, but rather is built with experience. Mainly negative experience. That is, if you go through, say, 10 approaches, or, better, 10 escalations (reveal your feelings) and get rejected 10 times, you will see that it doesn't matter how it makes you feel in the end. Your 11th approach will be "just for the lol… | /r/seduction | 05/06/18 04:33 PM |
| 3 | When she says she has a thing with a another guy.SHIIIIIIT TEEEEEST No, seriously. She has "a thing"? Like they are not even together... yet she is ready to go out with you? This screams "Please, please be a tad interesting so as to make me forget some random guy I have a crush on". I wouldn't even bring it up again while you are on the date. | /r/seduction | 05/06/18 04:05 PM |
| 5 | Does anybody have a direct transcript of when they’ve successfully approached and picked up a girl?You can search youtube videos with in-field pickup. RSD guys have a bunch for free which they also break down. But in any case, I agree that there is no magic pill. Just watch them for reference. Each situation is different and what counts are your core concepts | /r/seduction | 29/05/18 08:22 AM |
| 1 | Girl that rejected me makes a move?Thank you for your motivational words mate. I really appreciate that you took time to write these comments. Always assume attraction, right? Maybe you are right. I am scared that I might blow it up again. I was really attracted the first time and it would be a lie to say that I didn't feel like shit for longer than I would care to admit. I am indeed scared of going through this again. But I guess not taking advantage of the opportunity is even worse. Heck, not taking advantage of the opportunity… | /r/seduction | 16/05/18 05:27 PM |
| 1 | Girl that rejected me makes a move?Thanks for your comment mate. This is good stuff. I agree with all parts. And it is not even just the kiss. After our first date, I explicitly texted her that I really like her, but I understand, and I would move back. Since then she also explicitly mentioned that she was pleasantly surprised on how relaxed and matured was the way I handled it. The one thing that keeps getting in my mind though is the possibility that she might be using me as an emotional crutch (talk to me as a male friend) or … | /r/seduction | 15/05/18 08:51 PM |
| 2 | Girl that rejected me makes a move?various latin dances. Mainly salsa and bachata. Salsa is for the girls that that you don't know well or the ones you would like to meet, as you can pretty easily show them moves even if they don't know how to dance. Bachata is for girls that you want to hug and to rub yourself against. | /r/seduction | 15/05/18 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Help me stop getting friendzonedYes. I understand. Thank you. What can you say about making your intentions known, but not obvious? How to you achieve that? | /r/seduction | 25/04/18 06:15 PM |
| 1 | Help me stop getting friendzonedThe last case I met through a friend. We danced at a dance party, so there was immediate physical escalation there, but still she appeared pretty shy, so I took her IG and let her go. Next time I saw her a month later at another dance party. We danced and she practically hit on me as she repeatedly asked me to dance, gave me very suggestive stares and big warm smiles, repeatedly qualified herself to me, etc. I'd say that she practically seduced me instead of the other way around. I asked her out… | /r/seduction | 25/04/18 06:12 PM |
| 2 | Having a good job is the bare minimum for men [Discussion]If a man sits in a cell, is he more free when the door is locked or when it is wide open? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/18 08:32 AM |
| 1 | Be careful of who you take advice from on hereBecause the myriad self-proclaimed PUA guys popping up everywhere or guys whose post history about laying anything that has 2 legs are legit as shit. Give me a break! Of course you should filter everything you read (here and elsewhere) through your own common sense filters. That's a no-brainer. Maybe the guy struggling with girls has made really deep introspection and has pieced together 2 + 2. Maybe the guy who is laying left and right is only feeding his ego. Maybe you resonate better with the… | /r/seduction | 24/02/18 04:53 PM |
| 10 | Going out alone.....I'd go out, not with the intend to meet girls, but to meet other people in general. Of course, going out to meet girls in particular is lucrative in itself, but my experience tells me that when I went out with the intent to flirt, most girls could tell I was a lone creep. A more healthy mindset is to go out and socialize in general. In fact, you essentially become more attractive the more social you are. So, I'd approach mixed groups with the intent to meet everyone, both men and women because, … | /r/seduction | 24/02/18 04:35 PM |
| 5 | Is it bitterness or protectiveness that makes older women upset when older men express interest in younger women?When a guy says he prefers dating younger women it often sparks anger amongst older women. When a woman says she prefers dating taller guys it often sparks anger amongst shorter guys When a woman says she prefers dating richer guys it often sparks anger amongst poorer guys When a woman says she prefers dating playful and more interesting guys it often sparks anger amongst more serious guys who have their shit together ... You figure if it is bitterness or protectiveness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/18 06:20 PM |
| 1 | The Problem with “No Means No” is that it is ALWAYS negotiable.A girl can make it perfectly clear to a man that she is uninterested if she wishes so. There is a huge difference between a girl who is touching you, laughs at your jokes and says "We are not having sex tonight", from a girl who remains serious, won't turn her body to face you, prefers to talk with her friends and won't even mention sex. A person's 'No' is more than his words. And for most people the word "No" means "Not right now". From my experience as well, I'd say that if a girl talks about … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/18 04:57 PM |
| 2 | Do women have lower libidos and/or are they less interested in casual sex than men?Women are indeed less interested in casual sex than men, but that does not mean that they have lower libido. They DON'T. Casual sex is, from a biological perspective, far more risky for women than men. That's why women, even though they enjoy sex as men do, they tend to be more reluctant about casual sex, and prefer to have sex while within a relationship. The reason is that people are biologically programmed to have sex in order to have children. For a man, this is not life-altering and has ver… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/18 12:28 PM |
| 1 | How much does going to the gym improve male attractiveness?1) Lots of male attractiveness depends on facial aesthetics. Unless you get to 10% body fat though, your face does not improve going to the gym. OK. Whatever. 2) Lots of strong guys don't show their strength through their clothes. When I was in college and went to the gym, I always wore tight polos to show off my physique. If I ever wore a traditional button down shirt it'd wouldn't even show. I think I have a "small frame". People can tell major features no matter the clothes you wear. They can… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/18 04:28 PM |
| 1 | Is a guy a jerk if he leaves his wife/girlfriend after becoming more successful?He is not a jerk. He is just a super-insecure beta to marry/date a girl just because he does not want to be alone or wants to feed on her wealth/success. However, most likely, he is going to attract only super-insecure women that way. A lose-lose situation in my books, but I don't think it is socially wrong. Let him do what he wishes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/18 01:28 PM |
| 1 | Alpha Males - Viewed the same by women and men?All these traits are not strictly alpha traits. Height is DNA and, since it plays no significant role in modern society unless you are a basketball player, matters little. Looks are DNA as well. It helps with society feedback, but it does not make you alpha in itself either. Worked-out body and financial success are getting closer to alpha traits because these are actually stuff you achieve through hard work and dedication, but many times are just forms of overcompensation for your insecurities.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/18 01:18 PM |
| 2 | Blue Pill IncelsMany many Red-Pillers are also incels as well (or, at least, they are dating WAY less than they'd like). IMHO, overcompensation (extreme kindness, or trying to live up to other people expectations) which is the main BP trait as well as narcissism, which is the main RP trait are both symptoms of the same cause, which is avoidance. Living up to other people's expectations, trying to please everyone, being always the good guys and putting others before yourself, and then blaming them for not paying… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/18 05:52 PM |
| 2 | [Q4BP] What do you hear when someone writes "A woman is an AWALT"I didn't say anything about negative traits. However, these generalizations indeed tend to happen usually in a negative context. I can only imagine that, mainly due to the speaker's unpleasant experiences, adding up their ignorance coupled with to their lack of communication with the other gender, these generalizations happen in the context of a rant in an effort to offend and derogate all women for he thinks they are the source of his mishaps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/18 09:30 PM |
| 2 | [Q4BP] What do you hear when someone writes "A woman is an AWALT"The person saying it wants to convey the concept that a specific woman acts or responds to a variety of stimuli/situations/ideas in the same (or much similar) way as all (or most) other people of the group that idendifies as females (either by self-identification and/or biologically) act or respond to that specific stimulus/situation/idea. Although maybe other grouping attributes are implied as well (according to context) such as age group, ethnicity, marital status or education. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/18 07:47 PM |
| 5 | Would a marriage where a woman is ten years younger work out better than two people of the same age?no. Age is just a number. It is indicative of maturity and life stage, both of which must be matched for a successful marriage, but it is still only an indication. Plus, here are other far more important factors for a successful marriage: mutual understanding, respect, communication, non-neediness, lasting sexual desire for one another, important life experiences together. p.s. if what you claimed was true, a 24 year old girl would make both a 24 year old man as well as a 84 year old man happy (… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/18 12:15 AM |
| 1 | Guys that pretend to want to get dinner, but really want to fuckOh my! 1700 called. They want you back! What cultural norms are you talking about? We stopped learning to dance Waltz in order to attract aristocrat ladies ages ago. We live in the age of Facebook, Instagram and Tinder. Maybe you should be getting out and talking to girls sometimes. Maybe you are hanging out with just one type of girls. Maybe, just maybe, not all girls "demand" to be wined and dined. Maybe not all girls enjoy toying with men and playing flirting games. Maybe not all girls hate h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/18 08:13 PM |
| 6 | Guys that pretend to want to get dinner, but really want to fuckWell, that's the problem with "pretending" that the OP is referring to, isn't it? I mean, if the guy wants just sex, why is he asking for a dinner? and not... well... sex? Because it is the right thing to do? (according to whom?). Because he thinks that he has more chances that way? (The girl may be uninterested, but because you bought her dinner and acted as the provider, she changed her mind and wants to fuck your brains out?). In general, IMHO, if you are pretending anything or you are not ho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/18 04:00 PM |
| 7 | Guys that pretend to want to get dinner, but really want to fuckDepends, depends, depends... When 2 people agreeing going out on a date, they both know that at least one of them is interested in the other. But "interested" =/= "want to fuck him". "Interested" means that I am interested learning more about you (content/story, as well as behavior and mannerism) to see if I'll actually like you. If I was attracted enough, I wouldn't ask for a dinner first. On the other hand, one person may be surprised when a the other makes a move because, most probably, it wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/18 12:29 PM |
| 1 | Guys that pretend to want to get dinner, but really want to fuckmay want to avoid sounding like a nice guy though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/18 11:24 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If a woman gives blowjobs to other guys but not her current guy, she isn't attracted to her current guy.When a girl does sexual acts with a guy who is not her BF (or husband), this is called cheating. It means that at some point she wanted to perform that sexual act. It does not mean that she is not attracted to her BF, it does not mean that she likes the other guys more. It simply means that at some point, she thought it was a good idea (with whatever that means for her relationship) Would the answer be more obvious of we flipped the genders? I don't think there would be a man who would not fuck … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/18 11:06 AM |
| 3 | For the men who value family, what's the worse fate? "Beta Bux" or single?So the question is, "If you really want to make a family, you want to compromise and get a family, or not have a family at all?" I believe, if you put that way, the answer is pretty obvious. Of course, there are various degrees of compromises and the actual question is "When does is stop being worth it?". You could both compromise equally to get what you want (say you both want company as you grow older, no matter of sexual attraction. You provide for her and she cooks for you). Or you could be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/18 09:47 PM |
| 1 | Women have equal opportunities in terms of education and work in developed countriesI don't know about education, yet, I don't think a woman would have less opportunities. Opportunities are the same, yet on some fields and in some cases women don't peruse them for other external reasons. Same is true for men (the reasons differ). About work... well... I can surely say that there is definitely NO equality! In some fields women are heavily favored. I can talk about engineering where I have seen formal and informal guidelines coming from the European Union about forced gender equa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/18 04:41 PM |
| 3 | Feminism needs to stop pushing young women towards casual sexConsidering that this is r/PurplePillDebate and not r/Incels, this post is wrong on so many levels: 1) You don't define "lots". Is it a number threshold? Is it a number of different sexual partners or the number she has sex. Is is a function of her age? Is it affected by situational parameters? Is it your own personal view or some scientific consensus? 2) You say that the take-away message should be that "it is OK to have casual sex", yet this whole posts explains why it is NOT ok. Please make u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/18 04:23 PM |
| 5 | Why losers always lose, or why we should accept the tallest as our benevolent overlords1st, IQ is a VERY limited measure on "intelligence". Please tell me how high-IQ people with down syndrome are blessed with good genetics? 2nd, Having an engineering background, I can safely say that most (if not ALL) smart people I know are well below average in looks. This post is a load of mumbo jumbo that you pulled out of your head while sitting in front of a PC. If you go outside and actually interract with people you will form a very different opinion IMHO. Then you will see that maybe, ju… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/18 10:24 PM |
| 1 | [Help] How do I make my intentions clear?Thanks. I don't believe she is "defending" from something. I just think that she wants validation for her life choices or maybe a way out. | /r/seduction | 13/11/17 05:06 PM |
| 1 | [Help] How do I make my intentions clear?I don't understand. I am quite sure that I have at least some attraction from her. And the fact that she feels comfortable around me means that I do have some value for her. I believe it is the role of the man to lead. I do want to make my intentions clear, or else I'll keep being platonic and nothing will ever happen. I don't expect her to take the initiative and escalate. That would be beta AF. | /r/seduction | 13/11/17 05:03 PM |
| 1 | Should I let my intentions known?Why not Ask them about their intentions? Ask them what phase they are in. Having fun or settling down? If you feel the same way, tell them. But if not, tell them again. You are a confident and assertive man who knows what he wants and doesn't have a problem expressing it | /r/seduction | 02/10/17 07:29 AM |
| 2 | Some amateur videos helped me improve my game. Authentic tips for being more attractive with little effortNo free video. Just promoting his website. | /r/seduction | 04/09/17 03:23 PM |
| 1 | The problem with this sub: Age is rarely taken into consideration.It depends on what your aims are. If you aim to sleep with as many girls as possible, you would need to employ the most efficient procedures. And the most efficient thing to do is to try to appeal to the general population of that age group. I agree with the grouping you propose as the things most girls at that ages respond to. On the other hand, not all girls are the same. biology isn't an algorithm. Each person is different. Not ALL high-school girls go after hot/popular guys. Not ALL college … | /r/seduction | 03/09/17 08:28 PM |
| 7 | I wanna change...From what you write, I am guessing you have intimacy problems because you have very low self-esteem. You say that you don't go to school/college, you don't work, you play video games all day and you are starting to think you are ugly. All these things clearly bother you and affect your self image. Anyone would go ahead and tell you to address them one by one, but I'd like to give you an advice (that I take to heart myself) before you do. Before you start a blind journey towards "self-improvement… | /r/seduction | 28/08/17 07:11 PM |
| 6 | On Cheating: "THERE IS ALWAYS BETTER THAN YOU."No. It is just suggested to spin the tables around. You are not hers, it's only her turn. As long as it is her turn, you can do whatever you want (invest/sex/etc.). If she chooses to end her turn prematurely, so be it. Women come up with a million reasons to rationalize why they leave you. Most of the times, they don't even know themselves. Don't stress it. Someone else will come. | /r/TheRedPill | 27/08/17 07:53 AM |
| 6 | What happened to RSD Todd?Man! That's too bad. Todd was the only guy who I could resonate with. He was practical, no-bullshit, down-to-earth and had that good-boy looks and approach style which no other RSD member possessed. I bet many others are feeling the same way and kicking Todd might severely impact part of the demographics of RSD customers. (p.s. I don't know the background, Todd might have gotten too greedy and Tyler could not just cave. I am a bit biased against Tyler because, no matter how cool he is and what k… | /r/seduction | 16/08/17 08:03 AM |
| 3 | Soft-opener Strategy - Indicating interestI think it mitigates the cheesiness of the "Do I know you?" line. Plus it gives some indirect compliment as most girls I know like to feel like celebrities more or less | /r/seduction | 12/08/17 10:31 AM |
| 8 | Soft-opener Strategy - Indicating interestWhat I do: Keep starring until she notices. She may stare back (like "wtf are you looking at?") or she may dart away, etc. Anyway. Iook around and then stare again after some time. The point it so get her to not dart away. Then we keep starring at each other for about 2 seconds like I am studying her and I ask without moving from my position "Do I know you?". 99% of the time she goes "I don't think so". So I tell her "Do you have a youtube channel?" or something like that. Don't mention instagra… | /r/seduction | 12/08/17 08:17 AM |
| 2 | The best response to "I thought you were gay?"Tip 1: act unaffected like you heard this question a thousand times before. No pause, no facial expression, no gesture, no nothing. Just answer calmly with a slight smile. Tip 2: have a random/disorienting answer that is neither defensive nor reactive, and deliver it in the same manner. "Oh! No am not... Actually, my friend X is gay. He got me those nice shoes for my birthday. You like them?" | /r/seduction | 06/08/17 08:40 PM |
| 3 | The more I read about seduction, the less I understand women.Almost every PUA resource I have read, after describing all the mindsets and techniques, comes to this conclusion either directly or implied: "Whatever (rule/technique) you have read till now can be broken if you have the right frame. He who controls the frame controls the interaction" It is the same as the more common advice: "It is better to say something wrong with the right mindset, than something right with the wrong mindset" How do you know you're not just close-minded and refuse to colour… | /r/seduction | 05/08/17 09:20 AM |
| 1 | What is ethically wrong about dating (much) younger girls?I do believe so as well. The way I see it is probably kind of a tradeoff: on the one hand, you don't invest too much in a relationship, you keep it light and you both just have fun but nothing more. On the other hand, you invest more in a relation (and consequently more is expected of you), but you get something more deep and meaningful in the end. To be honest, I am not even thinking about the later. It does not naturally occur to me at all. I see it as a prospect indeed, but it feels... distan… | /r/seduction | 03/08/17 03:35 PM |
| 2 | What is ethically wrong about dating (much) younger girls?Is there maybe some insecurity that a woman your age might not find you as interesting as a younger woman does? I have no idea. I have not thought of that, really. Perhaps the lack of sexual experience and emotional maturity expected by a 30 year old is somewhat of an insecurity. | /r/seduction | 02/08/17 05:05 PM |
| 3 | am I depressed?I can hardly think addiction (especially to something not physically addictive), is genetic. But I am not a doctor and I might be wrong. On the other hand, I do strongly believe that addiction is a symptom of a problem and not the problem itself. Maybe you have some deep-rooted insecurities that are of sexual nature. Maybe you used porn to escape from a hurtful reality. I can't really tell. Most people with porn addiction are generally suffering from loneliness. And I don't really mean lack of a… | /r/seduction | 01/08/17 05:36 PM |
| 2 | I asked a girl out for the first time in my life. (Spoiler: Rejection)IoI = Indications of Interest These are (largely) subconscious signals that a girl gives out when she finds you attractive (or that you otherwise have value for her). These can be very glaring or really subtle. Anything could be an IOI if framed correctly, but you can find several common IOIs in most seduction books. To help you understand better, a few of the common ones are: She finds excuses to touch you. E.g. picks some lint from your shoulder, grabs your arm to look at your watch, etc. (ini… | /r/seduction | 01/08/17 04:54 PM |
| 2 | What is ethically wrong about dating (much) younger girls?Thanks for the comment mate. You do have a point. "they're in a completely different life phase than you". That's exactly what I keep hearing. But, to me, it does not sound like they really are. She wants to fool around, go out, have fun and have sex. It is exactly what I like as well. She wants to go out to dance, have a drink, see a movie, or go to the beach. That's exactly what I do with my friends as well. We talk about fun stuff, not school or work. I have my other friends for that. She doe… | /r/seduction | 31/07/17 05:19 PM |
| 1 | What is ethically wrong about dating (much) younger girls?I am mocking it because as "reasonable" sounds to you, it sounds like an arbitrary mathematical over-generalization to me. Since when attraction fits mathematical rules? If you want to discuss about separating school girls from grandmothers, go ahead, but is does sound like a stupid fallacy. | /r/seduction | 29/07/17 06:23 PM |
| 1 | What is ethically wrong about dating (much) younger girls?Answering your question, because a lot of people seem to get it wrong. It is not about younger age either. Say you like X girl, then this girl turns out she is still at school. You are not attracted because she is 17 and goes to school. You are attracted because you like her body, her eyes, her smile, the way she makes you feel and how you two can have a good time when together. It just happens that she is 17. That's it. Age is not a prerequisite for attraction for me. I do find a lot of girls a… | /r/seduction | 29/07/17 06:14 PM |
| 1 | What is ethically wrong about dating (much) younger girls?It sounds like to me that you are relating to them because you are intimidated by women your own age. I can understand how you find younger women attractive, since you are just beginning to find yourself and discover what you might like in a relationship much like they are. This is a valid point of view. Maybe you are right. Maybe I do have to discover my sexuality like I am a 18yo. Unfortunately, I didn't come with a user manual so I cannot just program myself to instantly like older girls. So … | /r/seduction | 29/07/17 05:49 PM |
| 12 | What is ethically wrong about dating (much) younger girls?Who comes up with that stuff? To me it sounds more like dungeons and dragons: "Oh you need at least +5 attack to overcome the ogre's 21 armor class, but with your magic sword of piercing you cut that to half to 10.5, so you're OK" | /r/seduction | 29/07/17 11:16 AM |
| 2 | What is ethically wrong about dating (much) younger girls?Why does it magically become ok when a girl is 18 or 22 to date a 40 or 50 year old man Beats me! I have no idea. It just seems that the number of revolutions one has gone around the sun magically makes it OK. Some people fight for individualism and how everyone is different and we must accept and respect that. But, dear society, I have news for you. That 17-y.o. girl is a person too, not a piece of meat stamped with "country of origin" and "production date". OK, I understand that we have to dra… | /r/seduction | 29/07/17 11:06 AM |
| 6 | What is ethically wrong about dating (much) younger girls?(high-five) | /r/seduction | 29/07/17 10:56 AM |
| 11 | I asked a girl out for the first time in my life. (Spoiler: Rejection)Good job bro! You really deserve it. Just don't try again in a couple of years. Continue approaching! Watch for your body language and keep strong eye contact, have a merry smile and a playful vibe. Just one recommendation. Strangers are generally closed and defensive so if you ask someone out out of the blue, they may come up with excuses because they simply do not know you, not because they don't like you. You may have to do some friendly banter initially. Like 10-30 minutes so you can get her… | /r/seduction | 28/07/17 03:21 PM |
| 4 | If I can barely grow facial hair and I'm 20 is that a sign of low T or something else?OK, some signs to look out for low T (not one of them alone is enough though) Unable to grow facial hair. Not week or patchy hair. I mean like clean-shaven No hair on body parts like arms, legs, back, ass. Not thin on weak hairs. I mean like clean-shaven. High-pitched voice. Not necessarily funny-sounding. Just high-pitched Feminine figure: Thin arms and legs, or, if having fat, it gathers mainly on your hips. Not being able to get or maintain an erection. Total absence of morning boners. Absenc… | /r/seduction | 28/07/17 02:23 PM |
| 3 | Am I too late?Our minds are great and intricate machines, aren't they? Your mind will always find ways to generate excuses for anything that you don't like doing (produces negative emotions), even if you have to in order to achieve something greater. And not just picking up girls. It applies to anything. Time is never the problem. If you want something, you will find time. I believe you just don't want it bad enough, letting gym/coding/parents being more important than that. In fact, you make them sound that … | /r/seduction | 26/07/17 04:56 PM |
| 2 | Great game to build all the seduction skillsquestion: how do you frame it when you propose this game to the girl you are with? When you are with guys, I understand, you push each other to do cold approaches, but with a girl? is it like: "You know I am single. Can you pick a girl you think she would be good for me and I'll go talk to her. I trust your judgement" or is it like: "Why are so many people are so afraid talking to strangers? I am not. Just pick a stranger and I'll go talk to them, see?" Something else? Don't get me wrong. I stil… | /r/seduction | 24/07/17 04:28 PM |
| 1 | Best activities to meet women (NYC)?Ahem... (clears throat): "Learn to dance!". I mean salsa, bachata, cha-cha, etc. One note for Yoga, gym and other places in the "fitness" category: when working out, you have usually very low social energy. Most people want to "do work" when they work out because most of the time, a good workout requires full concentration. On the contrary, people at bars, clubs, etc. and also at dance partied, and even dance classes usually go there to have fun, so they are WAY more open to socializing. A frien… | /r/seduction | 24/07/17 04:14 PM |
| 1 | How often do you think girls get aprouched?To be fair, cold approaching is quite rare. If you take out of the discussion creepy old guys flattering even below-average girls on Facebook all the time, guys don't approach girls on the street either in night- or day-game often. It has to do with country/culture but where I live, girls tend to be a bit more bitchy than average, so even fewer guys cold-approach them. judging from female friends, I get that unless a girl is super-social/funny (and not necessarily hot), they are getting approach… | /r/seduction | 24/06/17 04:42 PM |
| 1 | [Question] How can you be/seem calmer?Well, I do expose myself constantly. I always have been. That's what I wrote. I am not avoiding things that make me nervous. In fact I used "nervous" as another word for "energetic". I challenge myself constantly. Some task comes up at work? let's do this! I need to do some chore or something? let's find the best way to get over with it fast. And so on. The same goes with game. I am not afraid to approach (though, approach anxiety is always there), but I get tired by all the fluff of flirting. O… | /r/seduction | 20/06/17 04:25 PM |
| 1 | [Question] How can you be/seem calmer?Please elaborate | /r/seduction | 19/06/17 09:03 PM |
| 2 | Seducing women who say they want to "settle down". When women try to put you on the spot and be "honest".Well, as I see it, you have either the honest approach or the dishonest one (which, if I am not mistaken, you turned down already). There is some middle ground of course which is the most realistic and down to earth. If the girl gives you shit test about whether she can count on settling down with you or not, you can say something like "Look, I do want to have LTR at some point, but I can't do it with the first girl I meet. I did try it and it failed. And, in addition to that, I am at an age whe… | /r/seduction | 04/06/17 10:32 AM |
| 1 | But what if you are a phenomenal person but have severe social anxiety?No treatment and no meds are going to fix your problem if you don't fix your inner game yourself. Having said that, have you ever tried to be friends with a girl? I mean with a girl that you could be sexually attracted to. Just be friends with her and not expect anything sexual. Do you find it easy to have fun around a girl? Can you have a genuinely good time with a girl friend? When you go out to clubs and bars, do you talk to 50 women in order to have fun and self-amuse, or you are talking to … | /r/seduction | 03/06/17 02:59 PM |
| 1 | Went out with a girl, tells me she has a bf while we're together, wtf?OK let's see.Try to imagine: You got a friend that you hang out since high-school. It was not your best friend back then, and neither is he now. He is a bit weird but a good kid. You still share a couple of interests but your lives have become very different. He does not offer any real value to your life, but you do call him if you have no other plans to go out to eat or see a movie or something, though, deep down you somehow you might have preferred to stay alone at home and continue that serie… | /r/seduction | 03/06/17 02:30 PM |
| 1 | Went out with a girl, tells me she has a bf while we're together, wtf?I see 2 possibilities that might have happened back then (no matter if she actually had a bf or not): 1) She sees you as a friend that she gets along well with so she wanted to hang around with you outside work. 2) She was into you and this was a shit test. And you probably failed it as you said it threw your game off for the rest of the night. The point was to remain UNAFFECTED. Anyway. I'd recommend playing it cool around her and assume the first possibility, unless she gives you a much cleare… | /r/seduction | 03/06/17 11:51 AM |
| 2 | Seducing women who say they want to "settle down". When women try to put you on the spot and be "honest".I don't understand what your problem is. You want to fuck around with women who see you as LTR material? Or is it just that you want to avoid marriage no matter what sort of relationship you have (Gamophobia)? You either did not presented the question clearly, or you don't really know what you wanted yourself in the first place. | /r/seduction | 03/06/17 11:34 AM |
| 1 | I feel like the whole Mark Manson approach might only work because he's a tall, good looking, charismatic guy. Any average dudes around here try it?If you feel that you don't connect with a particular person, his "methods" might not "click" with you, and that's completely acceptable. You will have to find someone who you can connect to. For example more passive and down to earth people may find that they connect better with RSD Todd, rather than with RSD Julien, even though they both essentially teach the same thing (without implying that one is better than the other). We are all just different and that's what makes us who we are. Otherwise… | /r/seduction | 03/06/17 11:11 AM |
| 0 | Short people! How did you find success?All I really want is to be as tall as my dad, 5'10. If I was that height, I wouldn't have problems with women. My personality is enough at that height You'd wish! | /r/seduction | 30/05/17 07:56 PM |
| 3 | Short people! How did you find success?This is absolutely ridiculous! if you were 5'9" you'd WISH to be 5'11". If you were 5'11" you would KILL to be 6'. I guarantee you that you would always say: "Man! I got rejected again! Sucks to be 6'. If only I was 6'3" like that guy Alex over there... Women drool over tall men like him! If only I was a bit taller women would acknowledge me!" You do realize that this sounds ridiculous, right? I can also guarantee that if you were 6'8" you'd wished to be shorter because you wouldn't want to stan… | /r/seduction | 30/05/17 07:02 PM |
| 1 | Short people! How did you find success?I find that there are 2 types of "rejections" regarding height (that can be generalized for any other trait): You feel that a girl is uncomfortable around you, like you are a creep. You feel that she perceives you as totally unattractive and, despite not saying it explicitly, from her mannerism and body language tells you: "Go away shorty" She explicitly comments on your height like: "I don't date short guys". Or "Uh! you are so short". In the first case I find that the girl is just uncomfortabl… | /r/seduction | 30/05/17 04:20 PM |
| 5 | I'm 25 and I've never had a girlfriend, despite graduating college and I get depressed about how much I missed out on. Is there still hope for someone like me?If there still hope for someone like me? If you are here to get cheering and patting on the back, or motivational speech, you are out of luck. At least, I hope you are, because it would be unproductive. There is obviously something wrong deep within yourself and need to fix it ASAP. You are unsuccessful because your self is obviously unattractive right now. No matter what you do on the surface level (tactics, techniques, etc. even your "credentials", such as money, degree, etc. are superficial) … | /r/seduction | 19/05/17 07:54 PM |
| 1 | Why can't I (21M) get a girlfriend?No, your dope-ass "credentials" are not who you are as a person. If you think so, then you lack your sense of identity because you are looking for (social) validation through your "credentials", and this is a recipe for disaster. Grades, money, hobbies, interests, are all fine if you do them for yourself as a bonus to enhance your life. What is wrong is using them in the "credential" mentality. If you go into a date with the mindset of "I am better than your ex because I do X better", or "I am s… | /r/seduction | 17/05/17 02:46 PM |
| 4 | Is it dumb move to ask a girl if you can kiss her?It is not a dump move. It can work alright. It depends on your frame and how you reach there. If you are playful/funny, you have aroused her, etc. it may feel the most natural thing in the world. What others might say is that act of asking a girl if you can kiss her (without any other context), is sending the message that you are putting her on a pedestal and asking her permission to express your sexuality, which is a bad thing in the universal law of attraction. And there is still a lot more to… | /r/seduction | 14/05/17 09:08 PM |
| 2 | Why can't I (21M) get a girlfriend?As I read through your post I got more and more the idea that you do think you are entitled to a girlfriend, even though you deny it again and again (another signal is your need to clarify it multiple times) I am at university so have no shortage of social circles and opportunities to meet people, so that isn't an issue. I'm in decent shape and I like to think dress reasonably well compared to a lot of other guys my age. I'm slightly below average height and pretty average looking. ... I have ho… | /r/seduction | 13/05/17 12:03 PM |
| 1 | Girl who had awesome first encounter and followup phone call, suddenly disappears.well, since we didn't have anything going on anyway, I see that stopping answering calls and texts does qualify for "explicitly ending things". Anyway, thanks for the advice. Personally I agree with you guys and probably would never even have send the second text, but sometimes I get that women need some reminding. I watched some of RSD Todd's videos and advice on daygame and how he manages to turn around flaky numbers by sending non-needy and funny/self-amusing texts when the girl disappeared f… | /r/seduction | 22/04/17 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Dating people you work with, yes or no?Just a disclaimer: I haven't done that, so my opinion is only from that I have read and what I have seen. My personal experience from a girl from work was after she was laid off (see last paragraph) Having said that, I sincerely believe that the workplace is one of the best places to find long-term partners. You spend so much time with other people, so, it is one of the few ways to learn both the good and the bad side of that person (the other is being long-time buddies). I mean, you get to see … | /r/seduction | 21/04/17 08:59 PM |
| 3 | How to flirt with women as an introvertWe are taught by our parents, elder people and even society as a whole that we need to be polite, attentive and treat our girl with respect. Even girls complain about these stuff on their current boyfriends. And we mold this idea around our head that "maybe" if I am polite enough, if I treat her like a queen, if I make her gifts, then "maybe" she will see that I have adequate value to be with her. I may be wrong, but IMO all this mentality stems right out of men being chickens. Because all this … | /r/seduction | 21/04/17 05:05 PM |
| 2 | [FR] Ditched my friends and went solo, This is what winning looks likeI do find that I work way better without having other male friends around as well. Probably because forced to take action since you are left with no option to have fun but to talk to girls. | /r/seduction | 19/04/17 02:54 PM |
| 8 | How to flirt with women as an introvertThere is little point differentiating flirting styles. The best tactic is to combine everything. How can you elicit pleasant emotions to a girl if you are not playful and make her laugh? How can you get sensual with her if you don't start getting physical? How can you turn her emotional switches if you don't connect with her sexually? How do you treat her well if you are gross and impolite? IMO the point is to combine all these and try to work on areas that are under-developed. I get a little co… | /r/seduction | 19/04/17 02:38 PM |
| 1 | I'm sure the "Almost 30 and never had a girlfriend" threads have been asked before. Which are your favorite that you'd give to someone in such a shitty situation?Heh, if only it was that easy. Usually I never see the guy waiting, odds are there are five guys waiting for a turn to dance with her and the fastest one to her gets the dance. What should I say to get her off the dance floor to talk with me? It doesn't matter what you say too much. Just talk. Say something, say anything. Say an opener, throw a neg, ask her friend something about her in front of her, make a statement, give an opinion. Avoid asking her a lot of questions (none if possible). Don't… | /r/seduction | 15/04/17 08:10 AM |
| 1 | I'm sure the "Almost 30 and never had a girlfriend" threads have been asked before. Which are your favorite that you'd give to someone in such a shitty situation?Also on the number (6). A friend advised me to get an escort to teach me some basic stuff before getting sexual with the girl I had started seeing. I don't know if I was lucky, but it turned out the best choice in my life. The escort was very understanding and helpful (debunked a lot of the porn stuff which were stuck in my head that might have led to disaster) and my girl really enjoyed the way I pushed her buttons in the bedroom. So if you have some extra money, consider this investment. I str… | /r/seduction | 14/04/17 05:39 PM |
| 1 | I'm sure the "Almost 30 and never had a girlfriend" threads have been asked before. Which are your favorite that you'd give to someone in such a shitty situation?Simple! you talk to them. Joke a bit while dancing together (maybe joke about that guy who is "waiting to dance with her next"). Go talk to her when she sits down. Talk to her during the dance class, or afterwards. Etc. Offer some value, make her laugh, tell her something that you find fun/funny on her, playfully comment on something/someone else at the venue, etc. Do not hit on her. Don't make any compliments. Just talk to her like she is a guy You can get her number pretty easily too. You can … | /r/seduction | 14/04/17 05:24 PM |
| 1 | I'm sure the "Almost 30 and never had a girlfriend" threads have been asked before. Which are your favorite that you'd give to someone in such a shitty situation?Same boat here. Can't emphasize enough on number 2. I had 2 cases where high-value girls were hitting on me (even profoundly). I considered myself below average-looking and I was very socially awkward to take the (huge) hint and make a move. Now they barely even talk to me. I suppose that's what you get for wasting their time, coming through as beta, emotionally immature and boring. I just want to add one more advice: The best way to meet girls is to take dance lessons and go to dance parties an… | /r/seduction | 14/04/17 03:35 PM |
| 3 | Gentlemen, Learn To DanceLatin & Salsa dancer reporting in sir! I like how you comment on kino. You HAVE TO touch the other person in order to dance. I am naturally shy, but I find that hugging, touching and generally keeping your hands all over the place feels NATURAL after you dance with a girl a few times. Whereas, I got childhood female friends that I am still reluctant to hug. Bachata is essentially rubber your crotch against the other person's leg... | /r/seduction | 31/03/17 05:21 PM |
| 1 | How do cool normal guys that don't cold approach meet hot girls?I think you are trying to explain something in reverse logic here, but that's not how it goes. A guy does not require to do pick up to get girls. He can meet them in countless ways: work, friends, sports, gym, hobbies, etc. And then, attractions is not (only) about saying the right thing at the right time, but also physical attraction, timing, confidence, character and status (and several more stuff of course). Pick up on the other hand is about building the right skill set for consistency and s… | /r/seduction | 28/03/17 05:41 PM |
| 1 | Seductions and long term friends.Is it okay to attempt to progress a relationship via text? You mean ask her to be your girlfriend, turn it sexual, etc.? then definitely, NOT ok. She seems to be pretty special to you, so I don't think she is worth just a text. Look, I am not the most suitable guy to give you this answer, but here's how this usually goes: Unless she is a chick you pick up in Tinder, nothing good is going to happen by using texts to turn it sexual. There is no point, since you can already set up a date the two of… | /r/seduction | 27/03/17 08:59 PM |
| 1 | Seductions and long term friends.I suppose the whole point of seduction is not visualizing how badly it may go, but instead how good it would feel for both of you if you actually were yourself and treated her any other girl you liked. This stuff creates the right feelings in a woman, that's why it is so powerful. | /r/seduction | 27/03/17 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Seductions and long term friends.I get from your tone that you are about (or already) putting this girl on the pedestal. No matter if she is worth it or not, this is not doing you any good. Anyway. The fact that you have been friends and have no trouble hanging out just the 2 of you shows that you are both comfortable around each other. There is also nothing bad with flirting with her. What I would do in your position (from what you write here), I would find out if she is single or not and if she is, tease her like "wow! you? s… | /r/seduction | 27/03/17 06:24 PM |
| 1 | An argument with my friends about how should text a girl at instagramThere is definitely no "right" or "wrong" answer here. It depends on TOO MANY factors. You have no idea what she is doing and how she is feeling when you text her. As the other comment says, attraction is built in-person. If you can build tension through messages and then ask her out when she is most receptive, fine, but again, it is extremely difficult to tell what state she is at that moment if you are not looking at her. | /r/seduction | 27/03/17 03:21 PM |
| 1 | Is it okay to do the majority of the talking as a man?It depends. If you are the one to mostly talk during an approach, it is normal and expected. You are the one who takes on the burden of the conversation anyway. People are naturally closed and aren't comfortable talking/opening to people they don't know. So you will have to "pull the conversation string" several times before reaching the hook point and she starts enjoying talking to you. This probably means that you will do most of the talking. Now, if you already have relative comfort, again, i… | /r/seduction | 27/03/17 02:34 PM |
| 8 | How to get invited to things.I believe that there is absolutely nothing wrong on going out alone. On the other hand, why wait for people to invite you and dont invite them yourself? "Hey guys. I was thinking about checking out X this friday. Wanna come?" Should work with almost everything. Unless of course you mean events that you must be invited from within in order to attend | /r/seduction | 24/03/17 07:49 AM |
| 1 | What does it mean to get zero action from on-line dating?Thanks for your reply, I appriciate it. But there is still an issue. While I agree with you about girls using online dating apps (To some extend), I think you are focusing on girls part. I asked advice on what impact this has on me and how I should handle it. So, if I get this correctly, what you are saying is basically that lack of interest from online dating should in any way hinder me or affect my real-life game or change my perspective to any extend, right? I mean, shouldn't it ring a bell a… | /r/seduction | 17/11/16 05:07 PM |
| 1 | What does it mean to get zero action from on-line dating?I simply think you're giving bad advice. I would love to hear your advice. | /r/seduction | 17/11/16 05:02 PM |
| 1 | Picking up the instructor?Thank you very much! The only serious answer. I'll try to follow your suggestion. I believe you mean Kino as physical contact other than the regular contact for dancing. I just want to break a little that professional barrier. The thing is that, because she does seem a nice girl, it would be a shame to not to get to know her better, even if it didn't turn out romantic. | /r/seduction | 29/10/16 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Picking up the instructor?You completely misunderstood me. I don't think that the game is something bad! on the contrary, it helped me see way more clearly the things girls respond to and why. She is in no way any more special than the next girl for me. What I wanted to say in the first place was that, IMO, the game helps "establish" an attractive image with a girl. I don't have much clue on how to escalate from an "already established" image. This particular subject bogged me down more than once. I know it is not a situ… | /r/seduction | 29/10/16 06:27 PM |
| 2 | Picking up the instructor?You misunderstood me. I don't refuse to use them. But I see little application on this case. Sure I can start telling (true or made up) stories or asking for advice on made up matters from girls girls I meet first time, but wouldn't it be quite out of the blue with her? | /r/seduction | 29/10/16 09:43 AM |
| 1 | seduction redditors, what is a book you think every sedctoredditor shholde read? and why?The rest of the recommendations are interesting, but if there was 1-2 books that every seduction member must read (if he hasn't done already) is, of course, the infamous Mystery's "Mystery Method the Venusian arts handbook" and the other PUA book "Double your dating" by David DeAngelo. While both essentially PUA books, they teach much more than that which applies to general seduction. For me, it was like concentrated lifetime knowledge based both on theory and practice. | /r/seduction | 03/09/16 08:08 AM |
| 2 | seduction redditors, what is a book you think every sedctoredditor shholde read? and why?I can't really say anything about the 1, 4 and 6 but "No More Mr. Nice Guy" is a terrible read. I hated the fact that the book was pretty much: "You are a nice guy because in fact you are evil, loathing and controlling due to the fact that you had childhood trauma, blah blah" which may apply to a minority of nice guys, but certainly not everyone. And it really lost me on the recommendations on how to stop being a nice guys. "How to Win Friends and Influence People" is actually something every pe… | /r/seduction | 03/09/16 07:56 AM |
| 1 | This is why girls don't make sense to you. You're listening wrong. [xpost from /r/socialskills]anyone has the guide? it won't let me download it for some reason. | /r/seduction | 01/09/16 04:26 PM |
| 1 | How do I show interest in a coworker without making it too awkward?take her out, play a little bit with her, tease her, etc. in a playful/firnedly manner. Then say that when you are with her you feel a fire /good/ alive, and it would be a pitty to not take it to the next level. If she laughs or gets confused or unsure, ask her straight out if she wants to kiss you (do a kiss close). If she says yes, or she is looks unsure, go in for the kiss. If she says no, tell her that you can't really see her as a friend and it was your mistake that didn't make your intenti… | /r/seduction | 21/02/16 06:26 PM |
| 1 | How do I show interest in a coworker without making it too awkward?You should do whatever you feel is right according to your situation as the other comment points out. However, you don't have to clarify it is a date. I always assume girls are intelligent enough to tell if a man asking them out wants to date them or not. Also accepting to go out together (the 2 of you) is a non-verbal cue that she likes you back, or at least she likes hanging around just the 2 of you, which is a very good sign. Kino actions could be anything in order to convey that you are rela… | /r/seduction | 21/02/16 04:48 PM |
| 1 | How do I show interest in a coworker without making it too awkward?I feel the need to just call her on the phone randomly and just ask her out on a formal date Well, there you have it. You feel like doing something, then why don't you? Besides, you don't want to do anything bad to her. You just want to ask her out and have a good time together like you already displayed the capacity to do so. Play it cool. Don't use the word "formal date" please, and don't set up anything fancy either (leave these for after she clearly demonstrates that she likes-likes you). Pe… | /r/seduction | 21/02/16 10:18 AM |
| 2 | How to remove all neediness from your interactions with girls.go into the interaction with the mindset of "Whatever happens - happens". But you do have an agenda. I mean, you do have plans. You talk to a random girl because you want a hookup. You invite someone out because you want to talk to them. You ask a girl out because you want to know more about her and possibly make a move. All these things do not come from idleness. You don't go out to a club with "ah... fuck it" and you end up with 2 girlfriends 2 days later. You must actively pursue these things… | /r/seduction | 21/02/16 08:06 AM |
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