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When a country fights for its survival, it should be a thing, but only for total war scenarios, like Russia instituting a draft to fight off Nazis. Not for US invasion of Vietnam type situation. That's elites misusing an legitimate emergency mechanism for non-emergency use. A legitimate reason for a draft is that if the society holds together during a life or death invasion, it has a chance of surviving. However, if individual men are given a choice and told to come and fight "pretty please" eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 05:10 PM
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Okay you want to kill yourself? So you have nothing left to lose anyway, right? Therefore, suddenly, all of life becomes a game. An extra. Freedom. Because you were gonna die anyway but your life was saved by the fact that you didn't do it... so now you got second chance. A completely new empty slate. In this new life (which you were gonna throw away anyway), why not buy yourself a ticket out of any toxic environment you're in right now. Devote yourself to experiments such as getting a 6 pack or…
/r/TheRedPill20/11/22 04:13 AM
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Why is this your last year?
/r/TheRedPill19/11/22 03:43 AM
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Its totally true.
/r/seduction17/08/22 10:45 AM
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better off asking this in redpillwomen Also, I dont know if this post is a humblebrag, but if i were in your shoes, I wouldnt feel bothered that some people were insecure of staying around me. Sure, I might regret one or two people who were worth keeping that chose to leave. But I'd trust there's surely someone who'd appreciate the sweet life without feeling guilty or bad about it. I also wouldn't feel responsible for helping them get to such a state aside from not making a big deal out of it bu…
/r/TheRedPill21/11/21 11:39 AM
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Why is the divorce rate an astonishing 30-50%? Why is all relationship advice and material and books about managing conflicts? Why do both of the sexes complain so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 05:57 AM
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you doing something and declaring you did it for me is not the same thing as you needing me to do these ten things. Thank you. I must admit that this is too real to my life. If I truly had a say in what you do for me, or if it were something I actually wanted, why wouldn't I be grateful? The fact is, you are getting exactly what you ask for from me, and I am getting exactly what you unianimously decided to give me. I will discuss this with my partner later. Thank you for vocalizing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 07:09 AM
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This is true for strong, honourable, competent, warrior men. See my other comment. Also, if anything, the Taliban were more like your expectaion than the Afghan National Army (ANA). The Taliban fought the Soviet Union for 10 years and the NATO for 20 years. They fought the Pakistan Army as well for 5-9 years. Outnumbered, outmanned, out-teched, outgunned each time. They are complete assholes but they did fight. The "Afghan National Army" was a paper tiger that folded against the Taliban within a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 09:29 AM
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So women should expect their husband run away if more than one man attacks her? No. Here, a wise and strong man realizes that every battle is won before it is ever fought. The husbands, fathers and brothers must realize that if they do not prepare, they will pay the ultimate price; failure to protect themselves and their loved ones. Because throwing himself alone against an opposing army will not get the job done. /u/Perseus_the_Bold said it very well: "It takes an army to protect women from ano…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 09:18 AM
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Yeah, emotional labor seems a nonsense concept. If she finds it "labor", she should try saying so and see if her man still wants it. It's prostitute-level talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 06:52 AM
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The child is not beneath you though. A quote from a great book "Atmamun": Who is the most joyful person in any family? The small child? Or the grown adult? In the family unit, there is the adult who is miserable and disappointed and stressed and confused. And there is a child who is energetic, full of life, joyful, and playful. Let me ask you something: Who should learn from whom? Should the parent teach the child to be miserable? Or should he learn from the child how to be joyful? The child see…
/r/TheRedPill13/07/21 04:27 PM
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It’s part of our evolution as humans and it’d be easier for you to accept that and adapt honestly. Nothing can be part of evolution unless it reproduces better. Humans are merely tools that DNA uses to pass itself on. DNA doesn't care about your comfort or your beliefs. If it would be more advantageous for DNA to be passed on by slaves, evolution will favour slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 05:55 AM
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Its not so much that wives control the income as it is a naturally delegated responsibility. The couple mutually agrees that the income is to be used for the home and the kids. The husbands, recognizing that the wife has better knowledge of the kids' and homes' daily needs, can allocate spending better. Both the husband AND the wife have an allowance. The wife can't just spend willy nilly (though a common trope is that she does). Everything naturally gets budgeted. But the parts of the budget al…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 05:24 AM
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Perhaps we are. The opposite is what the culture and the religion that sprang around them teaches you. Jesus and Buddha themselves both insisted that every human being who lives in suffering in the world can experience the possibility they witnessed. That in fact, this is the natural state of human beings. To live without a self.
/r/RedPillWomen25/06/21 05:04 AM
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You're not looking for someone who's "strong". The person who uses willpower to overcome these things will naturally be a very repressed man, who then tends to exhibit an outlet like anger, or some type of addiction (smoking, etc.) or some dependency on ideology. The type of person who overcomes the detriment that is society is not the biggest gorrilla in the room. But the man who seeks the truth about things. Not a philosopher as society knows it, mind you. This is no big words contest or unive…
/r/RedPillWomen24/06/21 04:12 AM
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If Jesus or Buddha came to you and said, "All humans are degraded and living below their potential." You would be wise not to reply "You need to take some personal accountability, bud." or "Maybe you're the problem." Its just that some humans have standards. Humans continually dream of a better future. Men dream up a better world. Women dream up better men. If women are indeed selecting for non-degraded men, this is not a thing to be undermined or questioned or taken as a egoic attack. It may ha…
/r/RedPillWomen24/06/21 04:08 AM
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This is the most degraded generation in history. Women and men. In men's case, being a good MAN is not the same as being a "good person". Becoming a good man occurs through a set of very distinct mental and physical developments, which men simply do not go through nowadays. Men are made, not born.
/r/RedPillWomen24/06/21 02:33 AM
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If you cannot see the degradation, you're blind. Do you need a peer-reviewed study to tell you where to aim while peeing?
/r/RedPillWomen24/06/21 02:27 AM
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Read the op
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 06:22 AM
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Dick pics are beautiful expressions of love
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 06:41 AM
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Not true. Stock markets and banks can and do supercharge any economy. They do this by collecting and allocating capital efficiently to investments. Stock markets can also distribute ownership of the means of production to all those willing to invest. Thus, growth is faster and as a return for being faster, growth is more distributed than it would be if slower. (If Elon Musk didn't get investment for Tesla, it might still get big but he'd be worth $560 billion instead of $180b him and $360b for o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 06:36 AM
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Till the day you need results, you will not have them. Till the day you need her to stay, she might leave.
/r/askTRP25/12/20 07:27 PM
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This is a hurt man addicted to the pleasure of pain.
/r/PussyPass04/11/20 09:27 AM
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There is no time frame. The "wait until x to do y" rule is useless if you don't know why. The danger you are avoiding might already be gone. Or it may still be lurking. ​ In this case, its unwise to say so because acting on compulsive feelings is unwise. For they are ephemeral. A relationship built on compulsive pleasure evaporates as soon as pleasure fades. To be replaced by disappointment and pain.
/r/RedPillWomen12/10/20 05:42 AM
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“You need to show you are serious and I don’t need to at all” The motto of every girl with a betabucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 12:34 AM
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> When I presented the offer to him this morning he told me to fuck off and said that he's not pleading to shit. Nice. Respect his decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 05:55 PM
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Believe him. See how he reacts. He's just looking for validation for this insecurity. But the fear exists. He's gotta deal with that demon.
/r/RedPillWomen10/09/20 03:37 AM
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It is a cause and effect. She doesn't initiate because she doesn't want to initiate. Women are this way and so are men. Do not hand out prescriptions for how love or attraction "should be" shown. Figure out the cause and effect, such that the conditions for attraction or initiation come up on their own.
/r/RedPillWomen02/07/20 07:38 AM
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You care too much. ​ That is your problem. ​ Not feminists.
/r/PussyPass28/05/20 09:34 AM
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Truth is Truth. Fwiw, people are in worse situations because of illusion every day. Countries in war, families torn apart, anxieties, poverty, etc. All for failing to recognize the requisite truths. You're not unlucky. You stumbled upon a great find. The most significant of a human's life. I recommend you Google "Kapil Gupta interview on 33 voices" to see what I'm talking about.
/r/RedPillWomen04/04/20 02:08 AM
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I mean, why haven't people already
/r/RedPillWomen04/04/20 01:59 AM
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If someone taunts you during a game, you headbutt them? Have you had an ok childhood?
/r/MensRights23/03/20 02:18 PM
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Does anyone know where I can find more from the same author?
/r/TheRedPill22/03/20 02:23 PM
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To be honest, i see no problem with either. Though i do recognize society will chuckle at one and punish the other with beatdown and prison-time.
/r/PussyPass17/03/20 09:03 AM
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https://www.33voices.com/authors/kapil-gupta This is a combination of many things. I recommend the above interviews and then later, the book "lost connection - exploring the real causes of depression".
/r/RedPillWomen23/02/20 04:02 PM
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Same with men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 03:53 PM
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Interesting truth
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 03:51 PM
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You think too much. This is not good or bad. Do not use my comment to start chasing good or bad. It is simply ineffective. You simply have compulsive fears and desires that you are too busy satisfying, to ever truly engage with a woman. You have "too much mind". You need to be "no mind". Here is a Truth for you to ponder: The compulsive nature of fears and desires rest upon unchallenged assumptions. If the assumptions are challenged and seen as illusions, the compulsive fear and desires that is …
/r/askTRP16/02/20 02:44 PM
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Easily. Source: My girl is richer than me. ​ Vaginas didn't evolve a built-in money detector. If a man is an integrated being with a sincerity and seriousness to whatever that he does, he attracts people to him. He doesn't even try. Followings happen. On their own. In the end, it is not the man who gets the girls. It is the eternal Tao. The Nameless Name and the Wayless Way fucks bitches through the man. The bitches don't get fucked. The Tao gets fucked through the girl. It is all a cosmic game.…
/r/askTRP16/02/20 02:15 PM
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He is afraid of the pain of losing you. The phrase lets him pre-empt that.
/r/RedPillWomen16/02/20 05:02 AM
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Ignore these idiots. You are where you are. Proceed with your experiment. Go ahead and try this "exercises" thing. No, there is no ultimate nirvana in it, but doing it and observing the results is far more of a serious and sincere path than asking others. By letting these people sidetrack you, you will look to them for wisdom, rather than closely observing the causes and effects of your own life. At the end of the day, they don't have the investment and data that you have. And they will not stay…
/r/askTRP07/12/19 11:06 PM
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Utter nonsense. Affirmations you don't believe produce internal conflict and guilt. They are no substitute for the real thing.
/r/askTRP07/12/19 10:32 PM
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Answering this title in general, it's because a man thinks she's the best he can get. This may not only be low self-image. It may also be a combination of low self-image, and the girl possessing one or two traits that he thinks are really rare and that meet his particular needs very well. Examining the Truth of why one has a low self-image.,. Examining the Truth of why those traits are so important/satisfying for you... Or the Truth of why you think those traits are rare... Will lead you to free…
/r/askTRP01/12/19 01:57 AM
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I will venture out and address mostly your title and first few paragraphs. Because they contain a critical error that has infected every single point in your entire body of conclusions. Made it into superstitious paranoid presumptuous nonsense. The error is that you think you need to "come to terms" with something someone else told you. Belief is only for people who don't know. If you Understand the bedrock causality of things, that is coming to terms with it automatically. You might have come o…
/r/askTRP28/11/19 08:23 AM
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When your subconscious can't truly believe a woman would want you, the only way that you can suspend disbelief and experience a woman's genuine desire and sexuality is if they're with another man. It's a symptom of self hatred. This sounds like condemnation but it's not. It's simply a description of how subconscious emotions manifest in your sexual life.
/r/askTRP12/09/19 07:40 PM
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# You study when the desire to study trumps the desire to not study. This is a simple and incredibly truthful way of putting things I learned (from Kapil Gupta). When we understand this truth (which is a principle, not a prophecy), we can start to unravel our life and design it so as to address the two categories, the desire to study & 2) the desire to NOT study What follows is my experience going from someone who failed exams my whole life to getting some of the highest scores in my field later…
/r/askTRP15/08/19 04:36 PM
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Law 4: Always say less than necessary.
/r/askTRP30/07/19 01:29 PM
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20yo with 16-18yo is perfectly fine and I don't care what modern society has to say about it (society shaming and demonizing normal male sexuality is not new nor valid). That said, do look up your area's LEGAL CODE (instead of social norms).
/r/askTRP30/07/19 01:23 PM
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On the other hand, seduction is a game and an art. If she wants to play a little, why not? I won't walk away from clear interest and most likely hot sex because of ego. It works. You can't have sex with women and expect them to behave unlike women. This is part of what women do.
/r/TheRedPill29/07/19 06:56 PM
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Why is that decency
/r/PussyPass15/07/19 05:16 PM
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There 2 aspect to any hobby: - how much you enjoy doing it - side effects: what it does provide on top: skills, knowledge, it effects on your brain and body. ​ Condensed wisdom. Absolutely nailed in 3 sentences a concept I've seen expressed much more poorly using entire posts.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/19 06:51 PM
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I got super sleepy. My gf does not appreciate it haha
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 10:56 AM
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blow your load and roll over and go to sleep. But after sex, men get a really sleepy cocktail of sleep chemicals in their brain. I help her get off. But after sex, the best thing I really want to do is go to sleep. ​ EDIT: Also, I wonder what's he woman's responsibility in all this? You talk a lot about men wanting one-way in their favour but only prescribe one-way for women. Lastly, a very polite fuck you to the emotional argument of "treating her like human beings", which does nothing other th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 10:22 AM
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There's a slight amount of specificity and understanding that gets lost when good advice enters the realm of tradition. People on this forum will tell you that you must become strong and fit. This is good advice, but from the context of inner game, we can get more specific. When they tell you its not OK to be OK with how you are, and that you should be ashamed of being fat/skinny/not strong... that's only true if you actually desire to change, but are secretly denying your desires and/or are una…
/r/askTRP23/05/19 10:23 AM
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Take consistent action everyday. Do not fall into the habit of "preparing to act". Act now. Make friends now. Talk to girls now. Keep your training and self-improvement consistent alongside. ​ EDIT: Take care and know that the suffering of loneliness can mislead you. You might form the wrong conclusion and internalize the harmful beliefs from it like "you are missing something" or "need something from outside". Let me convey to you the sad truth that when you get that something (yes, even girls)…
/r/askTRP23/05/19 10:17 AM
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> the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes Lets accept for argument that Websters offers a accurate definition of feminism. We can agree to disagree. There is no need to be angry. This forum is based on the (not new, but age-old, time-tested and reality-based) idea that the sexes are not equal. And upon examination, the devil is in the details of feminist theory. Essentially, feminism is forcing a non-viable equality in a way that benefits women and disadvantages m…
/r/TheRedPill18/05/19 06:18 PM
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Misusing ED pills are morally equivalent to killing a baby? ...why did I receive this as a counter-argument, happycheese1? What the fuck is wrong with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 08:25 PM
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It’s not some holy imbuing of divine, cosmic energy. |It is
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 12:17 PM
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I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 12:17 PM
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Because its destructive to civilization
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 12:05 PM
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This has always been true. This is not the reason why men are failing to have their needs met today. Think more. Think inwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 12:02 PM
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Women in the US alone have aborted more than 60 million fetuses since Roe v Wade. Mic drop. Damn. Also, 95-99% of those cases had nothing to do with any medical issue/rape/incest normally used to justify abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 11:37 AM
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Your hour spent writing a comment and sourcing it is used better changing yourself into the kind of man who doesn't have to work two jobs. That choice of words is very deliberate. The kind of man who doesn't have to work two jobs. Become the kind of man who gets whatever it is you want. May I recommend the book "The Power of Now" to fill your "5-minute reddit breaks"? https://files.shroomery.org/cms/6584522-EckhartTolle-ThePowerOfNow.pdf Skip the intro and start with chapter 1. Read until you wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 11:31 AM
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Feminism is objectively a movement centered around asking men to give women's things. Its not as if it had an option of becoming a violent revolution. Women have no rights if men don't enforce them.
/r/TheRedPill12/05/19 06:21 PM
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Branch out into the real world someday. Not an insult. Just a suggestion. VENTING IS FUN! Read "The Power of Now" by Eckhart TOlle. More productive than here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 06:19 PM
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I like the way you put things into words. Its a pity you don't use your EC flair. People should stop and read you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 06:13 PM
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Proportionally, women are more likely to vote left than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 06:09 PM
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Correct. Technology changed things, more specifically it allowed women's roles to change by removing some of the survival challenges that women's roles addressed (i.e. needing husbands, labour needed to maintain household). Feminism just accelerated things and took credit. You can know this is true by seeing countries where feminism hasn't had much of any influence but still saw large changes in women's roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 06:08 PM
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I'm reading all your comments in this thread. I wonder what the point of us wasting all our energies and talents on this dead end forum is? Wouldn't it be far more useful to redpill our immediate circle or blog readership? Certainly in the age of Trump, Overton's window has shifted enough for this to be possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 05:53 PM
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I thought this was common knowledge. We maximize our sexual strategy to compete with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 01:09 AM
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Will we be able to add valuable posts to the forum backup (specifically talking about those which weren't backed up since they didn't have significant upvotes)?
/r/TheRedPill26/04/19 01:10 PM
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People on this sub are likely from a pool of people with nothing better to do. Why do you think their advice means much?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 03:04 AM
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Today, having the courage to go up to a girl in person and express your honest desires in an uninhibited way automatically puts you into the top 5% of guys in terms of perceived confidence and SMV. Women say they've never met someone so bold when all you do is say Hi + some teasing flirting/sexual comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 04:58 AM
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Male victims are losers or genuine unfortunates. Not "victims". They are not glorified. Only a few institutions struggle to offer glory to male victims like militaries but even they mostly fail outside of the closely-knit male bands.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/19 03:15 AM
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Nothing is wrong with women. You were just taught wrong. This woman is functioning normally. Anyone ready for a red pill ":O" moment should realize that... Women do such hamster gymnastics all the time. Often on a smaller scale and about less shocking things, but this is part of how a woman fundamentally thinks. This is how they process cognitive dissonance between how she wants to perceive herself, and how she actually is. Sharing this story with others and being validated for it is an importan…
/r/TheRedPill12/02/19 03:00 AM
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He is wrong. No one is genetic trash until the fat lady sings. The point of this post is: Don't listen to some "blackpill" smuck on the internet. The fight for survival is still on. What percentage of guys would you describe as genetic trash? By definition, whatever percentage fail to overcome their life's challenges and pass on their genes. By definition, it is not flaws that make you a genetic failure, but your inability to overcome them.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/19 05:26 PM
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Even if you are right, and some organisms are disadvantaged in passing on their genes, and threatened if they don't adapt... what use to them is a "philosophy" that teaches them to lay down and die? Even if their chances may have been 1%, with black pill, they're zero. That said, I think people who go into incel are severely fucked in the emotions and they dont really see the possibilities in a way a confident man does. The ugliest motherfuckers have a 95% chance of getting laid if they are conf…
/r/TheRedPill11/02/19 05:16 PM
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The "Black pill" is not a truth. It is a rationalization. Sadly, those who take the "black pill" are just seeking validation for giving up. I don't hate those who give up. I hope that they will eventually find their way.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/19 05:04 PM
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If that's true, your growth is limitless.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/19 04:51 AM
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Can't wait to try and reason with you. (and hopefully have my answers treated as legit answers for once)
/r/TheRedPill07/02/19 04:12 AM
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Ah, our equivalent of Trump's twitter replies section finally opens.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/19 03:56 AM
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When you are going in the right direction, it accelerates your progress. When you are going in the wrong direction, it accelerates your downfall. I'd also add the clarification that there is no such thing as standing still. Staying in the same place, day after day, year after year, is decay. If you are not moving forward, you are actively getting worse. There is a reason you are not acting: fear. And that fear is going to cannibalize your confidence over time.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/19 10:11 PM
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Part of the Red Pill advice is the result. The bigger part of it is that he stayed true to himself and his desires, and lived life by his own accord. She was welcome to be apart of it, but on his terms, and if she didn't like them, she was welcome to leave. A women will respect a man with his own will more than one who buckles to please her, especially a plate. You're either playing by your rules or her rules, and if you have any hopes of getting anywhere you may enjoy, you better make sure they…
/r/TheRedPill27/11/18 02:53 PM
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Russia is doomed because the women don't have children. It only has 20-30 odd years before manpower shortages hit every major sector of the economy.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/18 05:39 PM
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I liked this. Sometimes motivation is needed. It somewhat describes my own waking up.
/r/TheRedPill23/10/18 06:48 AM
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What you're describing is not going to be most people's experience. And there's a simple reason: Women are not incentivized to be good friends to former orbiters. For most men, women that you are "friendzoned" by typically have other sources of validation besides you. Meanwhile, if you stayed "friends" with her despite having your real desires frustrated, this decision (while not by itself damning) is usually motivated by some inner neediness that most men have. That neediness just broadcasts th…
/r/TheRedPill16/10/18 10:31 PM
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I guarantee she didn't have a single sexual thought about him in high school. And why should she? Women aren't attracted to passive orbiters. The Wall is a thing... but what happened to this guy is his own fault. If he never made moves on women (beginning with his oneitis and continuing uptil now), then this is what that leads to.
/r/TheRedPill02/10/18 07:53 AM
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Ideology.
/r/askTRP02/10/18 05:45 AM
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The feminist agenda is chasing goals at the expense of happiness. (we will be angry and unhappy untill we get what we want) Whereas we preach happiness in spit of our goals. (We will accept and function in the world the way it is wether we like it or not) And yet its us who are censured for being a bad influence on the world.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/18 11:53 AM
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If anything, the ego is vital to the feminist agenda. Identity(ego) politics are the foundations of the movement. Very good observation. It makes it easy to have sympathy for them, rather than anger. No matter how much ground they gain on reddit. No matter how much of society they change, they are fundamentally unhappy. They will remake the world and then find the problem was not with the world.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/18 01:35 PM
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Some things come from experience, and the observance of virtuous men (virtue, not as in "good" but in the way Aristotle used the word. Self-actualized). This means its hard to learn by just telling or reading. Some men learnt it in sports. Others in battle. Others by just hanging out with tough men. But I've been thinking on this concept for many days now. I have read books that increased my theoretical understanding, which helped me put it into practice. I will try to write out what I understan…
/r/TheRedPill30/09/18 01:25 PM
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This reminds me of an old piece of knowledge from the beginning days of TRP that needs to be restated Relating this to the red pill, I disagree the only outcome is judging the scorpions as "unknowable" (as many blue pill men do) or "horrible" (as incels or spurned MGTOW or anger phase people do). If we could expand this a little for argument's sake, don't you think the frog could appreciate the scorpion's nature and adjust its expectations of it without hating it? Perhaps the frog becomes bitter…
/r/TheRedPill30/09/18 11:12 AM
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the whole reason they're lashing out at him for displaying emotion is to show the hypocrisy of the conservative mindset of "Be manly! Learn to recognize rationalization. They are adding a reasoning after the fact. A man crying in public over anything less than death and agonizing pain (and sometimes even that) is not treated kindly. We are more charitable when it is private. But most charitable when it doesn't happen at all. That said, I don't lament that men shouldn't cry. Women and weak men ca…
/r/TheRedPill30/09/18 08:56 AM
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When a man doesn't show emotion, it is toxic masculinity. When a man shows emotion, they mock him. The first is their ideology talking. The second is their nature talking.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/18 08:45 AM
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it isnt rationalization, it is a fact All rationalizations seem like facts. Otherwise, they wouldn't be very good rationalizations. You seem to be thinking I'm debating you on your stupid argument that babies are parasites and we should kill babies. I'm not. What I'm saying is facts don't matter. People believe in causes all the time that are not based on facts. And even the ones that do, don't believe in those causes because of the facts, but because it feels right. Humans aren't fact machines.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 08:46 PM
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everything else is someone's opinion of it, usually stemming from the desire to control life through a woman's womb. you characterizing it as a parasite is your own rationalization. whether you are right or wrong, it is the same method that men used to mass rape and murder and enslave, WITHOUT feeling guilty. The fetus is no more human to you as a woman/black/enemy was to a ancient solder.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 08:25 PM
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"Doctors who perform abortions tend to hold that stance." what fucking doctor defines life from a stupid understanding of roe vs wade. How in the do you claim you don't care about american definitions and then QUOTE THE ROE VS WADE STANDARD to define life? But seriously what fucking doctor? Show me a single reference. The one who dropped you on your head? Go away you child.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 02:58 PM
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Whenever humans want to kill, they convince themselves that the victim is not human. People have used the "its a subhuman" rationalization to enslave, rape, murder for all of history. The Nazi's dehumanized jews. The slavers dehumanized blacks. Fetus are particularly easy to dehumanize. And its such a practical convenience to do so. You're firmly in your delusion. You need it to not feel guilty. I cannot convince you that fetus are human. My effort is that you are making a subconscious effort to…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 12:03 PM
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My man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 11:56 AM
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Where in the fuck did I even mention or reference Roe vs. Wade haha My mistake. I assumed you knew the history of the abortion issue, if only in passing. The "survival outside of womb" standard you are using starting being a law and simultaneously a prominent pro-abortion argument after Roe vs Wade. Not before. So I assumed you had heard of the law, heard of the standard that the law uses to allow abortion, but were only mistaken about the reasoning behind the standard (which has been endlessly …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 11:51 AM
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First they came for Fatpeoplehate... I did not care for I did not care about fat people. Then they came for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 10:28 AM
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Here we have it. When women need something, they'll kill their own children to do so. They have no morals. This is not the fairer sex. They love until they can rationalize cheating away. And it happens like a light switch.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 06:39 AM
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Abortion is not murder yet killing a pregnant woman is double murder. It seems the standard for human is "wanted". Women are disgusting with how much they can rationalize. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/9jfwno/rtheredpill_quarantined/e6s7kh9/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 06:38 AM
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What an illiterate comment. You literally don't understand the damn law you are extracting logic from. Roe vs Wade doesn't use the standard "sustain itself outside the womb" to say a fetus isn't alive, it uses it to decide if a woman is obligated to let it survive. Two different ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 06:37 AM
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dont get me started on abortion. it isnt murder. Women only love until they can feel it. Nothing is anything until they feel it. Murder is not murder. Dehumanization is the oldest trick in humanity's playbook, when people have wanted to do something awful. I could probably convince a country to massacre and rape if I could convince the targets were not as human. Women do that on an individual level all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 06:34 AM
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What a disgusting mindset. I wouldn't rape because I want to fuck. Why would I kill a child? The theory is amoral. Not me. The theory is evolutionary-science based and there doesn't seem to be morality in evolution. But the people who understand theory can still choose to act morally or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 06:30 AM
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Whenever humans want to do evil, they trick themselves into doing so. The dehumanization trick was used to enslave, massacre and murder. Just because the red pill has become nihilist does not mean we don't understand morality. It is not part of a red pill's platform, but it is part of its recognition of reality. That women are human, and humans are awful. Women only love until they feeeel it. And they can always rationalize away the feelings associated with the awful things they do. You can spot…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 06:30 AM
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What a shocking response to this refugee crisis. Won't you accept the women and children streaming in from TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 09:48 PM
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What a shocking response to this refugee crisis. Won't you accept the women and children streaming in from TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 09:46 PM
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Little by little, they took those over. They're doing it to games as we speak. Where will you go?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 09:42 PM
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I'm trying to go through my browser bookmarks and archive is not working. Archive sites dont see the threads anymore, only the quarantine message.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/18 09:05 PM
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Was thinking the same thing. Whatever their intention was... that UN WOMEN group shot... the "Why Gender Equality Is Good for Everyone"... "Guys Who Get It: The Men of the Women’s Movement"... The "Expert on Masculinities" I swear, I've been here so long it seemed dystopian. Like I've been caught on TRP and sent to re-education.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/18 09:05 PM
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Our visitor numbers must have decreased too. This post should easily be above 100 points. I'm guessing TRP is disconnected from our 300,000 readers until they individually come back here and say they want to opt in again. TRP is not in my "home" feed either, which is pretty subscriber based, and shouldn't have affected. That means, our sub no longer reaches users just browsing reddit. They have to first opt in, and then come here explicitly through the URL each time they want to read.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/18 08:57 PM
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Has someone appreciated your initiatives for TRP.red yet? Because your intuitions were dead on and we should. Are there any donation links you could share in this thread to help you with upkeep and development? Do kindly share it here for me.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/18 07:59 PM
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It's a matter of time before we're entirely removed. To delay the inevitable, I'd like to ask fellow readers: Do NOT to send admins angry and hateful messages. Instead... Go apply what you learned, improve your life, avoid the dangers. This is a lesson on the decline. As for reddit itself, You may register your discontent and concerns if you have them. But do not give them the self-satisfaction and the vindication they need to ban us outright. Instead, turn the other cheek. Us 300,000 are, in fa…
/r/TheRedPill27/09/18 07:44 PM
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You were mistaken. You are, in fact, on a forum for sexual strategy. There is nothing wrong with being more direct in your desire for pussy. You don't go to gym to earn the right to sex. That is a tactic as well.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/18 12:44 PM
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Its not straight math. Lots of other variables. Rejection is not always about you.
/r/askTRP27/09/18 07:08 AM
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If it is gentle and kind, but would make any listening feminist explode in a flaming ball of rage at its "condescension" and "benevolent sexism", then that's exactly right. This makes me realize something that I'd like to add for the reader's consideration: The common wisdom would have you believe that "strong, confident, assertive" or "sexually empowered" women are the ideals of womanhood you should want, if you want good fulfilling sex, relationship and life. Meanwhile, shy, docile and insecur…
/r/askTRP26/09/18 09:00 AM
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Others asked me via PM too. I will do a post on this later. :) A long journey to condense actionable lessons out of.
/r/TheRedPill26/09/18 02:16 AM
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I hate giving canned lines or saying "yes, that will work" when someone asks me about their line (really, you're just depriving yourself of the excitement and learning of exploring your own intentions, beyond what you think it is)... but... Would this come off as attractive? Would this improve my ability to get laid? You'd be surprised. I know some might be aiming to just tear me apart here with "gotcha! your advice has limits!" but you would actually be surprised. This isn't it. If, in that mom…
/r/TheRedPill26/09/18 02:12 AM
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There is really nothing complicated requiring explanation. Effective verbal communication comes from you knowing what you want, and daring to express it confidently and clearly. Strong behaviour stems from you being true to your values, and makes you virtually impossible to manipulate. However in terms of conversation I can keep it going for days. Generally my conversations though while tend to reach a deeper emotional level they fail to result in something solid. If you want "something solid", …
/r/TheRedPill26/09/18 01:31 AM
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The ancient monks used to have a technique for dissolving pain, so that they could find inner peace: When your emotional pain arises... pay attention to your pain. Observe the feelings that arise. Do not fight them. Do not think about the feelings. Do not let your feeling turn into thinking. No words, judgements or memories. No past nor future. Simply observe the feeling. Rather than resist the pain, go into it more deeply. Surrender to the reality of what is, in the here and now... which is not…
/r/askTRP25/09/18 11:03 AM
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Good post. This is like the Konami code to approach, all on its own: 1) Show a woman you want her 2) Be sure that you'll get her, no prob. And then have the confidence to... 3) Approach and actually state your intent. No fear, no insecurity, no bullshit. Just calm playfulness and your honest desire. Can you imagine being a woman... seeing a powerful, attractive, well-groomed MAN approach, knowing he wants you, seeing that he seems so sure (for reasons) that he'll get you (why? what are these mys…
/r/TheRedPill25/09/18 08:42 AM
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You have a deeper well of need that a woman cannot fulfill. It is as simple as that. A woman can distract you from the dissatisfaction you have, perhaps even for a while, but she cannot truly fulfill you. The dissatisfaction will continue. This well cannot be satiated. Yet your desire to satiate it leads to suffering. This cycle will continue until you either die, or you become aware of and decide what to do with your ego. This second outcome is called wisdom. EDIT disclaimer: (And no, my friend…
/r/askTRP25/09/18 07:17 AM
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I've been where you are now. And I've gotten to the point where I guide others. I don't have pride in my posts or tag but if they help you trust me and act on my advice here today, please go and look. Regarding your situation in particular, I want you to read this book: "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle. It will address why you suffer, and how to stop it. "Confidence" is the outward manifestation of a deeper quality. Read this book.
/r/askTRP24/09/18 08:51 PM
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What are some good ways to reward her for this behavior ? By being pleased. She is doing this to make you happy, so give her your happiness. Beyond that, you can give her your attention. You can fuck her with love and passion. You can do something fun together. You know her best. Get creative. May I recommend the book "The Way of The Superior Man" by David Deida?
/r/askTRP24/09/18 08:49 PM
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This is the right answer for such a situation, if she is truly disrespecting you. But what if she's not? A stranger told me, OP, a whisper from my time in womaniverse, that she might expressing her bubbly feelings for you. And that its cute. She means nothing by it. Though her subconscious does subsequently find how much it bothers you veeery interesting. Think of it this way, if a little girl called you "bunny", would you punish her? edit: I kind of like the answers in the thread saying to call…
/r/askTRP24/09/18 02:02 AM
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I am happy, "mate". Remember to follow Dr. Rogers technique as an explicit rule. Listen. It is not important to say sorry for every little thing, but it is very important to visibly be seen fixing what needs fixing. That's what a good father does.
/r/askTRP24/09/18 01:42 AM
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I do have insecurities and my alpha shell (for now, in the beginning stages, at least) is still a shell. My son. I am glad you said this. This awareness is the most alpha part of you right now. Now onto the answer to your question... You handle it by not handling it. By not needing to. This is an advanced technique. This crowd is testing you to see if you have this quality. You don't. Few do. But the test is a blessing. You can learn. I have been through this childhood. I am grateful for it. I l…
/r/askTRP24/09/18 01:24 AM
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There's a great post on the TRP sidebar required theory reading about relationships. It explains the spirit of a RP relationship rather well. Treat your woman as a father would his little girl. You don't need to belittle your woman. That's not amused mastery. If anything, listen to her more effectively. Be a leader. Manage your ship well and make your first mate feel known and at ease. Here, try this great technique of listening. I recently used it to great effect as well. Carl Rogers, one of th…
/r/askTRP24/09/18 12:42 AM
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Do anything other than try to play it casual. You are wanting to reunion with this girl. There is nothing wrong with this. Nothing to be ashamed of. Just state your desire to meet up with her and catch up. This is infinitely more attractive and upfront than whatever excuse you'll come up with in order to prevent that god forbid, her catching a whiff that you are interested in her... * gasp * sexually! Also, as for your text sample request... I personally recommend saying this: "Hi. I wanted to c…
/r/askTRP23/09/18 07:14 PM
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This is good behaviour, reward her. Continue doing what you're doing. Also, it won't last forever... so while it does... ,My friend, you have just entered an all you can fuck buffet. Tell her this. And let the games begin.
/r/askTRP23/09/18 06:30 PM
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A fat man was self-conscious and lacked self-esteem and he wanted to fix it. One day, he looked in the mirror and saw all his fat. "I hate myself," he said. And so he made the decision to lose weight. He spent the next 6 months in the gym. Then he came to the mirror again. He was a normal, healthy weight now. As he looked in the mirror, he realized "...No, that wasn't it." You should get your teeth fixed. It will improve your SMV. But not your self-consciousness. Not more than superficially. Tha…
/r/askTRP23/09/18 04:18 PM
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Do not try to be perfect, or alpha. There is no mindset that sets you up for failure more than trying to be alpha. Be beta, if you have to. Be proudly beta and it will serve you better. As for recovering, you'd be surprised what you can recover from. Women do not want perfect. Perfect is boring. Do the following and tell me how it turns out. Do not over-complicate or think about it. Just complete these simple steps Go upto her tomorrow and tell her she made you nervous yesterday and you really t…
/r/askTRP23/09/18 03:38 PM
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Don't ask yourself whether you are exciting, ask yourself whether you are excited.
/r/askTRP23/09/18 03:31 PM
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This is my first post to this subreddit so be nice. Would you like some tea?
/r/askTRP23/09/18 10:19 AM
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a legit 5 star bish who is gonna be worth spending some serious time with is gonna give you the time of day after an opener like that 1) This is a delusion. I am not trying to insult you. I am stating a fact. There is no such thing as a "5 star bish." Two) One should not take themselves (or anything, really) so seriously. Socrates played with young toddlers with abandon. So did Marcus Aurelius. There is wisdom in this. There is timeless wisdom in this. Primal. Even an infant knows it. You know i…
/r/TheRedPill23/09/18 10:14 AM
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Once I started saying what I really wanted to and stopped giving a fuck, the results were night and day. Another great summary. With a little bit of practice, and the conscious knowledge that you're supposed to disregard your fears and insecurities... and it becomes like riding a bicycle. I'm a firm believer that flirting is something you are naturally equipped to do. It is only our fears and insecurities that stops our healthy sexuality dead in its tracks, like a sort of egoic pollution.
/r/TheRedPill23/09/18 09:19 AM
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A large player in that as I think for you has been in cultivating a more presence, outcome independent mindset. When one is present there is simply awareness of your surroundings. Your actions are not dictated by an end goal, you're simply experiencing the moment for what it is. If it organically goes in a direction you desire then great. If it does not, then it did not serve you and life goes on to the next moment. Exactly. You perfectly get it. Add in a pinch of expressing yourself to your wom…
/r/TheRedPill22/09/18 05:53 PM
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Ask yourself what all the different kinds of shit-test response types (sidebar) are meant to convey. They essentially dismiss her authority to test you. They show you're higher status. Like so, EXAMPLE: "Tobrehtraetalf, I wish you were taller." 1) Agree & Amplify (basically makes a joke out of what she said.) "I wish I was a real human being too." 2) Pressure Flip (applies the same standards to her.) "I wish your boobies were bigger. And I could motorboat you." 3) Nuclear option (just tells her …
/r/TheRedPill21/09/18 11:32 PM
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She is not attracted to your job. She is attracted to the high-status vibe and confidence you exuded because you were so well-employed. Don't lose that. Your job gave your ego permission to act big and OK with yourself, but there is no reason not to act OK now that it is gone. Males are unquestionably raised to believe that earning achievements is necessary to prove their value. Thus, males with status regain informal permission to think and act important, with formal authority and external reco…
/r/askTRP21/09/18 06:05 PM
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I have rarely read a more deluded post so utterly convinced of its rationality. This is not an insult, but merely an observation. If its hard to see the source of your limited view, then I will describe the problem in plain words: You've intensely invested your identity (your worth, your self-image) and made it dependent on whether a woman chooses you or what she really thinks of you ("oh, she must be thinking badly of me under the surface. I'm only 5'11."). Even simpler words: You have a huge e…
/r/askTRP21/09/18 05:51 PM
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Men who don't have success with women see naturals and think there is something special in what we said. There isn't. The wording itself does not matter. Nor did I ever think about it when saying it. You can give me a collection of the gayest lines in your arsenal, I will text them to my girl and then provide you screenshots of her not only staying but then answering "I'm your slave" if I ask her what she is to me. The meaning of Inner Game is displaying your intentions honestly. If you minus yo…
/r/askTRP21/09/18 05:19 PM
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Do not try to analyse or see meaning in women's words. There is none. Words are a fluid trap. Men who are fearful often fall into their frame because they have no meaning of substance in their own words. They are not following their intentions. (Side note: do watch their actions though, those cannot be faked so easily.) As for your advice to "play it cool"... When you try to be cool, you are being manipulative. Men think they can manipulate. Women can actually manipulate. Manipulation games are …
/r/askTRP21/09/18 05:12 PM
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Listen to your instincts. Are you being with them out of fear you can't do better? That is oneitis. Nothing more. Everything else is fine. It just happens to be a very common fear. In fact, it is the default state that life conditions a man to live in. Often, their egos deny that they are in living in this reality. I'm sure you are in that oneitis state too, even though you don't want to believe you are not. A ego-run mind can only be in that state. For the ego run mind, they will always operate…
/r/askTRP21/09/18 04:59 PM
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OK, guys like this really shouldn't be trying to complicate things with lines or emulating someone else's game. When in doubt, follow Inner Game. i.e. "if you subtract your fears, what would you say?" Substract your fears of rejection, failure, social pecking order, sucess, etc... and follow your instincts. Display your intentions honestly. Just keep it simple. Say the truth. "Hey, I'm confused. I like you and I'm looking for an excuse to hang out with you. Can I use that bar thing as an excuse …
/r/askTRP21/09/18 04:36 PM
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Listen to me carefully: Women do not approach in the way that men approach, because women and men are different and want different things. Women approach by giving you the "OK" to approach *them. They signal their *availability**. To a woman, that's being forward. When you reminisce over past missed mutual connections with women, they'll often say things like "What do you mean I should have said something? I DID SAY SOMETHING. I WAS LOOKING AT YOU. IT WAS SO OBVIOUS." Men approach women because …
/r/askTRP21/09/18 04:24 PM
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Its a good book for what it tries to be. I don't want to give the impression that its trash because that would just be lying or unfair. We may not perfectly agree with JP's Cold War era tradcon ideology but he's created a strong and insightful life advice manual from it nonetheless. I think it is worth examining, even if I personally agree with TRP that I don't want to follow tradcon as an ideology in this age (because there are no real rewards anymore). My mind won't explode from reading a diff…
/r/TheRedPill20/09/18 01:57 AM
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I actually read it out of curiousity and didn't dislike it. I'll start with the pros first, because I think I understand why he became a cult after reading this book. A fair praise I could give him is that he has unique insights (at least in his field of study) and the book itself is passionately written and well-intentioned. It definitely has helpful guidance. My personal favourite part of the book was the bit about raising young people. I really thought those chapters deserved to be an addendu…
/r/TheRedPill19/09/18 05:59 AM
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Mindfulness is always superior to being run by the egoic mind.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/18 07:13 AM
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"Toxic Feminism" should be a phrase.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/09/18 06:09 AM
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Coincidentally, the expression "clicked in my head" reminds me of something I should've mentioned earlier. The underlying basis for all I said is the assumption that you already have modes of behaviour that are attractive to women, right this minute, just from the god-given masculine instincts you have. These natural instincts are suppressed right now in favour of meek behaviours due to made-up things like fear of upsetting the group, fear of offending or being rejected, or feeling like you are …
/r/TheRedPill12/09/18 07:30 AM
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Direct and Indirect isn't the differentiator. Being true to your intentions is. Fearlessly congruent. If you truly just want to tear her clothes off and have sex with HER right then, and you honestly can't contain yourself, then yeah, sure, ask her to have sex with you. And watch how it flows out when its honest, it'll just feel right. And from her end, it is always going to be very attractive. She might say yes, or no. But staying honest and saying what you're REALLY thinking is going to be att…
/r/TheRedPill07/09/18 09:41 PM
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The simple explanation is "Sit down in a quiet, relaxing place and focus on the breath." Though this explanation is often too simple and does not suffice. This is a far harder task than one realizes upon hearing it, and you will experience this as you begin to practice. The side-effect of meditation is it exposes how little control you have over your own mind. There are many aspects to true mastery of your mind. And for details, I recommend the following book: The Mind Illuminated: A Complete Me…
/r/TheRedPill06/09/18 07:58 AM
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Make your woman behave. You are what is lacking in this picture. You describe a wife without qualities, but this tells much about her husband as well. Let me ask you, why is that you cannot control her tongue? Why is it that she does not care to attract you? And most importantly (because somehow in my mind, all dysfunction is due to dysfunction of the ego), why is it that you suffer due to this? Look, rethink. Your knowledge right now is limited. You have failed because you only know what you kn…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/18 11:44 PM
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Celebrities are bluepill. They often don't know how to leverage instinct for advantage. And they lose out in the divorce court. Two factors make them chase equal status chicks: 1) The tragedy of relationships; we want those we can't have. Groupies are too available. 2) The woman on your arm raises your status. If you're giving your commitment to a low-status girl, then it reflects badly on you. Rock stars have sex with groupies. Hell, their stage crews have sex with groupies. They just don't com…
/r/TheRedPill28/08/18 05:25 PM
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"The Power of Now" is such a great book that naturally strengthens your frame. Highly recommended.
/r/TheRedPill24/08/18 09:42 PM
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Thank you for your comment. You make a very good point: A natural is outcome independent because things are going his way. My description of natural did not consider this. Yes, there are those who only act outcome independent because the outcomes are always good, and who fall apart when the outcomes are no longer good. I cannot say how common they are because I haven't personally encountered the archetype... but I suppose we all have a little bit of that in us. On reflection, the above is a gran…
/r/TheRedPill10/08/18 07:44 AM
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I just had to make a short reply to point this out. I am in the process (?) of taking full control of my mind. Your mind has already fooled you. As long as you think your consciousness is in the future, you will never find it. You already are in full control of your mind. You are the thing that pays attention. You are using your attention to read this text right now. That thing (consciousness) experiencing the world is you. It has no voice. It is merely the silent watcher. It is distinct from th…
/r/TheRedPill10/08/18 07:43 AM
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It may have been me. I posted it as a comment in the now side-bar post on shit-tests.
/r/TheRedPill10/08/18 07:21 AM
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I am glad to see people believing in the merits of hard work and personal responsibility. But you are making the mistake of mixing in unhealthy stories to it. I will be harsh. Neither did Chads build this world, nor Brads, nor you. Neither does Chad need to build anything or brave adversity to "earn" pussy, nor do you. Neither is Chad better than you, nor does that matter. On Naturals: If the Chad (henceforth refered to "natural") is ahead of you in some real sense, its that his inner game paint…
/r/TheRedPill07/08/18 04:34 AM
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Factual knowledge does not equal emotional wisdom.
/r/TheRedPill07/08/18 03:20 AM
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When you are done (and not before), I urge you to revisit your comment, and smile at it.
/r/askTRP05/08/18 02:45 PM
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Listen to me very carefully. By absolute coincidence I mentioned a resource very popular on TRP, but that is designed with your problem in mind. Read the book "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle. It addresses your pain and your delusions. You must read this book. Be humble to this new way of looking at your problem. You MUST read that book.
/r/askTRP04/08/18 03:42 PM
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The most useful? "Just sit down and meditate." "Just be in the present. That is all you have to do." "There is no such thing as a bad meditation."
/r/askTRP03/08/18 11:43 AM
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There's too many words here in your post. And that's the tell for your issue, rather than the content ironically. When people write a lot about girls, it means they're very invested. But probably that diagnosis won't make sense to you now. You're convinced that you're in a real crisis. When in reality, you're in a ditch and you're yelling that the world ends with the walls. Try to imagine looking down at yourself from up above. If its hard to see the source of your limited view, then I will desc…
/r/askTRP03/08/18 10:12 AM
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TRP is a description of the sexual marketplace, the nature of women and the place of men in it. It is a discussion of sexual strategy for men, given what we know. How you approach the game, what tools you use in it, and what goals you make in it is upto you. There's no "compatibility issue" with TRP, only look for compatibility to your goals. That said, I did find that book useful. I read it around 2012 and it benefited me in the workplace and in establishing the first true friend group I've eve…
/r/askTRP01/08/18 04:52 AM
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I usually read audiobooks due to lack of free time. But when I read the book itself, I highlight a lot and sometimes, if its really good, I take notes. I bought a graphics tablet (they're really not expensive) and use it on Microsoft OneNote.
/r/askTRP01/08/18 04:41 AM
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This is an awesome topic BTW. Absolutely. Do keep thinking on it. I plan to invest this month to revisit this topic too. Perhaps the red pill audience is onto something. There's a deeper calling than game, fitness and status. I think you are referring to non-reactivity, non-neediness, being in your center, being serene or calmness. No. Those are also by-products, wouldn't you say so?
/r/TheRedPill01/08/18 04:04 AM
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That is a very unique take, and describes to an extent what I find missing in PUA. As a short thinking exercise, aren't these three pillars lag indicators? (Spitting game, taking care of your body and having status and confidence) Whats the lead indicator though? Because I'm sure even a behaviourally high status man, with decent physique who is a good flirt, one can still remain unhappy. Or at least miss deeper meaning and peace. You'll get laid often enough, sure, but something will still remai…
/r/TheRedPill31/07/18 10:18 AM
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Outline your vision, as a start.
/r/TheRedPill31/07/18 09:57 AM
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Answer: why is pickup mutually exclusive to "True Male Sexual Strategy"? Why can't you work on your life goals while getting laid? Look, I'm not gonna engage in all this chitchat. Address my question. It is not mutually exclusive. And I want you to dispense with the strawman of hat-wearing pickup artists. Those don't exist. Probably never have besides the few guys following Mystery. The average self-actualizing man spinning plates and gaming as a hobby is the reality.
/r/TheRedPill31/07/18 09:08 AM
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But not bad for the individual male! Not bad for you! Even if we buy JP's strawman of pickup artists, its still stupid. See, you're thinking and appealing to the feminine imperative right now. You're imposing arbitrary morality on yourself that you somehow owe it to women or society to EARN sex the right way, or else you should remain celibate. I make this reply not to debate pickup but to try to convince you that you're limiting and hurting only yourself through this self-imposed mindset; what …
/r/TheRedPill31/07/18 08:02 AM
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I used to love these kinds of threads. Someone on seddit or asktrp would post a shit-test and the comments would be full of absolutely hilarious responses. But from personal experience, the responses themselves never helped in actual situations. Mostly I guess, because as a beginner, you're on edge, you forget, you tend to overthink the delivery and/or the wit doesn't come to you. And the few occasions where it does apply, its just... not fun. Or at least not as fun as the alternative. I realize…
/r/TheRedPill31/07/18 12:35 AM
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Normally, I use the "men and women are not better or worse, just different" copout too. It's easier than going into details of how "different" can easily mean "superior" or "inferior" under different belief systems. In this context, I'll absolutely support Aristotle's view on friendship. It's easy to see why Aristotle's value system would say women's differences make them inferior. Men are evolutionarily protectors, providers, and creators of value. Women are evolved to extract value from men, i…
/r/TheRedPill30/07/18 11:40 PM
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Yep. On a trip to Thailand in 2014. It was a spur of the moment thing. I don't know why I did it, but I just started using a strong British accent with this infectiously British girl I was talking to. I've always had a knack for accents and somehow I really got into the role. So I kept it up. I remember getting numbers from 3 out of 3 girls straight that night. I kept talking to them in a British accent for days and days. I didn't sleep with any of them but in a span of 5 days in Bangkok, I'd ha…
/r/askTRP30/07/18 06:51 AM
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Thank you very much for this. There's a great collection.
/r/TheRedPill27/07/18 10:44 AM
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May I request a +1 point for the OP, bsutansalt? This thread is a worthy conversation for TRP. Its fitting for insight to be rewarded with visibility.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/18 01:50 PM
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You might enjoy reading "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/18 01:13 AM
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Reading Dostoevsky is like getting a degree in psychology Quite a recommendation. Any book in particular you want to share?
/r/TheRedPill22/06/18 03:25 PM
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Oh, man. Younger me needed to have this stapled to his glasses.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/18 05:49 PM
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No matter what way you slice it, bookworms are objectively clueless at many things and tasks that come naturally to others. That we "didn't get it" is a fact or else why would we be here? Their elitism here is justified. Of course, we're exactly as elitist towards the "street smart" group you mention too so its not exactly a one-way street. The way I see it, there are two forms of wisdom. - The first is the kind that is concrete, and easy to express in words. There is often a right answer. It is…
/r/TheRedPill20/06/18 07:56 AM
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I weep for the west. Thank you for posting this.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/18 12:28 PM
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u/TheRedPike, on the same note as throwing out whiners, may I also request that the OP of this post be awarded a point? My reasoning: 1) Its a neat, thoughtful post. I really liked it. I think he's adding to young men's understanding, and he seems to grasp the core principles from his posting history. I look forward to more, u/c-novo. 2) Whether trolls can understand or not, at least let us never be guilty of not broadcasting the message from our side, with both positive *and* negative reinforce…
/r/TheRedPill25/05/18 04:47 AM
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If you're a woman, you aren't even aware of the sexually invisible ones. They simply don't exist. And they are not going to volunteer their problems to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 08:46 PM
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I like it. Congratulations on not allowing leftist pressure/influence prevent you from making your observations heard about the world. More so, if you're writing this while in leftist university environments as bad as the ones I've seen. If that's the case, the only thing that I would change is the glaring bit of unashamed bit of honesty at the start. "I have tried my best to understand females" is a line that leads rather awkwardly towards your line about how your mother's nurturing gave you an…
/r/TheRedPill15/04/18 06:49 PM
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Like feminists.
/r/MensRights14/04/18 11:18 AM
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I'm mostly inactive on TRP because I work overseas but every now and again, I log in and seem to catch you writing quality shit. Frame is everything. Thank you for sharing with the class
/r/TheRedPill22/03/18 05:10 AM
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You're obviously new. For now, just understand; Alpha does not mean 'good', beta does not mean 'bad'. Also who defined this whole beta/alpha thing? I'm really curious. Read at least the sidebar and shut up until you do.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/18 09:48 AM
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That's the thing. Most things are not on the same level of importance as flying a 747. Most things, its ok to screw up. The rewards are real, and the downsides are usually illusions.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/18 09:42 AM
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Not beta at all. To be fair, it is objectively beta. What /u/calibeachgod420 needs to understand is that being beta is not inherently, in and of itself, bad. For a long time, it was the best sexual strategy in society. Think "the good ol' days". Nowadays, beta is a strategy that has led many man to being taken advantage of. Understand the market, be sure you're not being taken advantage of and do what you want.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/18 07:40 PM
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I will admit, though, that she is an amazing friend. She's the only girl I've met in my life that has actual ambition. It turns me on how smart she is. Fact is, I've been in love with her from the moment I set my eyes on her: I could tell from the start that she was different, that she was special. Like, fuck, I could write books about this girl, I HAVE written a book about this girl. I don't even care about the sex, I just want that next level of intimacy. One day, when you stop having tunnel v…
/r/TheRedPill15/02/18 04:30 PM
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You do not "win" the evolution game. Genes win the evolution game. You are just a square on the board. This is very interesting. But then an individual's happiness and satisfaction is pretty tied to your genes. Complete freedom from that ultimate master is pointless. That is the hand we were dealt. By design, aren't we a tool for our genes? This is the claim I'll make: You have to do what your genes want, in some form or other, in order to get any sort of happiness. The reasoning: Because reward…
/r/TheRedPill12/02/18 06:09 AM
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I can vouch for that. and again.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 04:26 AM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 04:24 AM
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Why yes, would you like some? EDIT: i just think its cute how she thinks it was a valid response to the title Qs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 05:01 PM
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A slut can be monogamous if she chooses to be (I am, lol) Look at that hamster. Beautiful
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 04:44 PM
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Ironically, sometimes a question can reveal a lot of information about the asker. Your post reveals a lot about your unattractiveness than I think you're aware of. And as much as you try to hide these honest feelings when you're desperately (yes, desperately) trying to maintain the interest of some 5 on tinder, I'm pretty sure women can smell your neediness better than even I can here. First, your post whines. By extension, you are a whiner. Second, your frame throughout this post is that no one…
/r/TheRedPill10/02/18 09:33 PM
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Lastly, keep in mind that bigger ape might also be vastly more intelligent than you are. The trope of the muscle bound idiot and the brilliantly smart wimp is fiction that makes little guys feel relevant. Genghis Khan, in his prime, was an extremely imposing and muscular figure. Moreover, he was born and raised in a savage environment, and thus tended to behave as a savage. His uncultured mannerisms and background often caused his contemporary opponents (including his own countrymen in his early…
/r/TheRedPill10/02/18 12:57 PM
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Can you describe for us the changes that you experienced as a result of these therapeutic exercises? How was your frame shift before and how do you handle things differently now? How has your game improved?
/r/TheRedPill05/02/18 02:42 PM
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"Get your shit together, men!" 15-20 years of total fuck you in the ass and now its time to be a functioning human again! Good observation. But do note nobody has to become a functioning man. Young men just realized they got fucked and now want the things they missed out on. So they follow alternative guidelines under the promise that it will lead to those things that they desperately want. TRP talks about sexual strategy, the reward being sexual success and perhaps then a fulfilled life (in the…
/r/TheRedPill04/02/18 11:29 AM
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Not really. The school isn't necessarily full of masters. Most here are still learning.
/r/TheRedPill03/02/18 04:10 PM
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I get your overall point but you have to see that just by disagreeing with him, you're proving him right. You both are seeing two different films on one screen. You have a view that reality is objective and unchangeable, and something you have to accept and adapt to. While he subscribes to the view of persuasion scientists and evolutionary psychologists, who say that there is no particular evolutionary advantage in humans evolving to view reality objectively. In fact, there is advantage in human…
/r/TheRedPill14/11/17 02:43 AM
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You'll never be personally satisfied with that mindset. Which, at the end of the day, is the only metric that makes any sense at all. I love the sidebar post "How to not give a fuck" and we could apply the same nihilism to this question. For the entirety of your consciousness on this earth, the only thing you will ever experience is your own satisfaction. For a being like that, doesn't it make sense that you only look at others to understand how to get satisfaction? AKA To learn. It makes no sen…
/r/TheRedPill03/11/17 09:48 AM
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The difference is this social strategy makes women annoying, but makes men unattractive. You get TRP. Women can leave their roles because women are the choosers, and men will still compete for them regardless. (And women's roles are nothing important, really.) Men can't leave their roles because there is pressure on them to be attractive to women, and that involves being a high-value(read: status) man. Plus, men's roles are important.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 04:21 PM
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woah. blast to the past. thanks for remembering that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 04:19 PM
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Recently, I was traveling a border area recently freed from Taliban insurgency. While there, happened to sit down for tea with the locals who told me quite sternly how much they resented the government police and military for constant suspicion, shown by the mandatory checkpoints for ID and weapons. It astonished me that they would begrudge the government for just this much when they were actively being liberated from a hostile terrorist insurgency.
/r/TheRedPill21/06/17 08:22 AM
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Magnificent post, that takes and grips a reader from beginning to end with compelling sense. I know I sound like I'm writing a book review but honestly, I don't know how else I can add to this since it's so comprehensive. I actually consider myself decently confident but I still think I learned a thing or two new from your insights. I will be linking this to many struggling men I know. This was the longest and most helpful treatise on confidence I've read in years of red pill. Have a point so I'…
/r/TheRedPill20/04/17 10:52 PM
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The mindset where action is not viewed as a chore is hard to cultivate. I've been seeing tremendous success in real life by recommending "The Book Of Pook". Granted, its only three cases, but its still a 100% success rate so far (not counting myself). Start there for those who really just want to know what we mean by a red pill mindset to game.
/r/TheRedPill06/04/17 02:20 PM
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I can't even understand Hays edition. Any advice?
/r/TheRedPill06/04/17 02:09 PM
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That was beautifully written. Thank you. One of the biggest challenges for my own journey when starting... actually no... even several years into it... was that I still hated the man I saw in the mirror. Sometimes to the point, I wanted to simply disappear. One of the things I missed in those years, (because I never really had people to point it out to me) was that I might not have been my ideal, and I might have been failing in so many of my goals... but day by day, month by month, I was changi…
/r/TheRedPill13/03/17 12:58 PM
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They're not going to arrest you if they find out you lied.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/17 10:08 AM
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You need to read the Book of Pook. When you are asking "what the fuck do i do", it shows you lack a identity and are looking for us to give you one so you can get girls to lick your dick. I repeat, The Book of Pook. It will help you gain perspective, and build your masculine personality. Most of all, if you read it right, you can apply the ideas it gives you into your life as you read them. Seriously, recommending this book solves so many problems for men I know(on TRP and outside) that it feels…
/r/TheRedPill12/03/17 10:06 AM
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I remember when I used to be active and used to get stuff like this. Was loads of fun. I have a screenshot of one on my other computer. Will post if you're interested.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/17 09:58 AM
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I know I'm just another stranger on the internet to anyone passing by... but heed my words. If you are a newbie, and you have time to read just one thing from this subreddit. Then let "The Book of Pook" be it. Just put it in your mobile. Read it when you have time. It is the best, and simplest book on inner game you can get
/r/TheRedPill12/03/17 09:31 AM
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Pook's writing is somewhat entertaining and eccentric, but his lessons are universal and genuine. Apply your comprehension, and I guarrantee he will not waste your time. The Book of Pook(just search it) is probably one of the single most valuable writings you can find on the red pill.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/17 09:23 AM
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Its also worth remembering that Alexander's martial prowess and manliness also had inspiration from Aristotle, Plato and Socrates... who were all great examples of masculine virtue and strength and not just weak, old philosophers.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/17 06:43 AM
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To you, I would recommend The book of Pook. Seriously, the only reason you have this question is because of your poor mindsets, which the Pook will mend.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/17 07:24 PM
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I agree with this a thousand percent. If there are men who could read only one reference book from the entire red pill, then I would tell them to consume the Book of Pook.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/17 11:56 PM
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Abortion of a man's child. Female on male crime. Defined as "not a crime". (The converse: keeping a child against a man's will is of course "not a crime". Forced abortion of a woman's child is defined as murder, but abortion chosen by the mother is "it's my body" and therefore "not a crime" in most states and countries. The woman is always prioritised over both the father and the child.) The amount of hamstering on abortion rattles my brain. I am certain history would consider it as one of the m…
/r/TheRedPill23/12/16 09:54 AM
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This is the most red answer here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:44 AM
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Short Guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XZVRnNlHmU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsRneoX7AkU Awkward Asian Guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa4aXn0qgwM Stop making excuses, dude. I can personally guarrantee you that even a lot of the times you dont get numbers or IOIs, it still ends up being fun and mutually flattering.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:42 AM
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Wolf Girl and the Black Prince was pretty redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:39 AM
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I don't particularly care about your quirky turn-ons and turn-offs. What I'm saying is that you're claiming expert-opinion and tacitly telling men off from something you demonstrably don't even know about. There's a reason that when you debate TRPers, you find that they're dismissive of you. It might even feel like you're talking past each other. As if they truly act like you're not even talking about the same thing. Its because you're not. TRP is a stupid internet forum full of boys we want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 02:06 PM
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I'm generally attracted to the kind of stable, normal ability to showcase vulnerability that ploddingly sincere individuals have. Models by Mark Manson No More Mr. Nice Guy by Robert Glover Way of the Superior Man by David Deida The Game and sequels by Neil Straus The Book Of Pook Seduction by Robert Greene The Rational Male by Rollo Tomassi And so many more. You're reading Roosh and trying to pass it off as knowledge. Get the fuck outta here. All of those books address deeply what you're talkin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 09:11 PM
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I went through 50 men. Went through a phase. You sound like the poster child of good judgement. Plus anyone who describes game as swagger doesn't know what they're on about. They probably just heard about it from their favourite source of women's gossip.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 08:05 AM
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♂ Props on actually daring to think about what the red pill is. Its the harsh truths about women, the SMP and how society thinks about the sexes. Though we have some other neat stuff too. I've seen so many men over the years, RPers too, who just want to live in fantasy land and ignore the actual gist of what we talk about here. Who dismiss anger as illegitimate rather than misguided and pointless.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/16 07:58 PM
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I've been a long part of the "we're too cool to care" crowd... so I understand. But the red pill helps people. Hell, just seduction is a beautiful thing that makes men and women so much happier... but so many men lack it and are miserable. I've mentored many men I know in real life... and if the tiny little steps to make this sub explode on reddit can be taken... I'm no longer too cool to care.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/16 07:49 PM
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Man, I was literally writing a post on just this. You beat me to it. Words of wisdom. Hope its not cucky to still post it because I'm going to. Tomorrow though. Tonight, I gotta sleep
/r/TheRedPill06/06/16 07:44 PM
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This is the crux of the problem. They have been told that TRP is bad, just like Feminism is good, and they don't actually take the effort to read the material and think for themselves. They just take what these other "sanitized" sources have to say on the matter as truth, then espouse opinions on that. Because the meme they've made for us satisfies people's curiousity. It really neuters the effect of us going viral. People know about us. But their curiousity about our ideas is not there because …
/r/TheRedPill06/06/16 06:10 PM
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True enough. They are too stupid to even put us down right. The opposite of love isn't hate... it's apathy. They give us respect every time they condemn us. But I like that they're that stupid. What I find annoying is that they've been lucky enough to stumble upon an argument for us that satisfies people's curiosity when they hear about us. If we could just defeat this meme (that "TRP is just lift and be confident" + random bullshit) and make people curious about our core principles (which reall…
/r/TheRedPill06/06/16 06:07 PM
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I can sign a contract to donate bone marrow to save a friend's life, even have that contract notarized, but I still have the legal right to walk out of the operating room if I change my mind. Even if it's a guarantee of death for my friend. What if you were, by your own actions, responsible for your friend's medical situation? Just like the mother is responsible for the fetus's situation. While you still could not be compelled, you are guilty of murder and the state could lock you up or even exe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 06:16 AM
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Didn't I mention medical cases as being an obvious failing point of the law? I acknowledged it was legal but laid out such a scenario with the logical conclusions. The fact that we condone and even glorify this legal loophole is a damning indictment of our morals as a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 06:09 AM
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Obviously, bodily autonomy is a different issue than doing whatever you want without consequence. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 07:03 PM
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And/or does the rights of that fetus trump the rights of that woman. In most legal codes, in cases where two rights cannot co-exist and the state must decide to honour one only, the party which has less capacity to bear the burden of having their rights deprived is the party the state supports. This principle has enormous precedent in hundreds of laws, yet in cases of abortion, we side with the mother, even when she is using it as birth control (as 95% of women are.) and the pregnancy is safe an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 06:55 PM
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Any argument for legal abortion has to justify what is in fact the termination of a potential human life, and the only reasonable arguments involve something relating to the rights of the mother over her body superseding the rights of the fetus. The inalienable right to bodily autonomy is not covered legally if your own actions caused you to be in the situation that you want to extricate yourself from. The mother has by her own actions caused the fetus to be dependent on it, and has already taci…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 06:51 PM
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You are too good for this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 07:58 PM
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The feminine imperative (the pursuit of fairness, fair distribution, and feelings) takes precedence in cultures of plenty. The masculine imperative (competition, supremacy, and elitism) takes precedence in cultures of scarcity. It makes sense. By nature, the masculine creates or acquires resources and the feminine seeks its her fair share. Women itch to redistribute what men make almost by instinct. So now we have like a national household, where the woman controls the paycheck and henpecks the …
/r/TheRedPill15/02/16 10:21 AM
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AskMen practically changed from being sub about asking men, to being about asking men if women approve of the question first. You've just described the nature of feminine imperative.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/16 08:46 AM
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That is why women with feminist tendencies will argue that women weren't "allowed" to have careers before 1960, why they say they say that slut-shaming is "policing" womens' sexual behaviour. Because to a woman, widespread disapproval is perceived as equal to physical force. If you've not already written a topic on this, I highly urge you to do so. It would be educational for most.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/16 08:36 AM
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I've been to the Philippines and this is the way I do it: Step 1) Talk in English. Its really that simple. I was in Cebu at the time and talked in English as much as I could. To avoid coming across as too much of a tourist, I tried being like a documentary host... i.e. curious and wanting for people to show me their culture, food and world in general. Pretty much every girl who I met while speaking english was decently attractive and smart, and treated me well.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/16 08:19 AM
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The social conditions that the redpill assumes, just would not exist without feminism. Not really. Case in point: I am from Hong Kong. We have little feminism, but a mostly open sexual marketplace. By most evidence, feminism has mostly only taken credit for social change that would have happened regardless. It is a fact that there is no known example of civilization that has been anything other than patriarchy. The egalitarian ones existed in extenuating circumstances(an example would be Sparta,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 07:58 AM
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Hi, I want to start a dank meme if I can in the short time I'm here back. For the public good. Whenever BPers do this shit(see dstoo and hawanja), please post this link: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2q51i9/why_ppd_while_sometimes_diverting_is_ultimately/ Do not engage on their terms. Do not make the argument about character or givens.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 07:15 AM
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Just don't be afraid to get out there and learn about women on your own and make your own theories on women. I've done this. It made me even more of a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 06:45 PM
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Its safe to say your scenario never happened. The vindication is in the fact that there is an unspoken rule that protects you from being hit or being victim of violence in any way by a man. When you use this rule as a shield to have a free hand at hitting other people, you're a shitty person who's mistaken if you think the other person is still obligated to follow that rule. If he says "all bets are off because you tried to stab me or keep coming at me and won't stop until I make you", he isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 06:34 PM
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70-90% of field reports are about failing. You conveniently don't consider /r/asktrp field reports
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 01:30 PM
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More like reddit celebrating every time a woman is maimed or punched or beaten in a response that heavily outweighs her original action. more like how every time a woman posts a guy goes through her comment history and says "checked, no nudes." More like how if there is any picture of any woman regardless of how she is clothed or what she is doing many top comments will be about her weight, appearance, whether she is fuckable, or whether she is a bitch. Reddit also often does this with girls who…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 12:48 PM
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Add your own post to your list of examples, I guarrantee a post like this about men would get published on the telegraph or huffington post or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 12:40 PM
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So you're saying... "Women complain a lot more"... got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 11:44 AM
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...there are shit tons of posts on TRP re: boosting social skills. I am currently working through a loooong list of books by u/AsianAway precisely for that purpose...ditto Seddit At some point, over-intellectualizing and self-help is just another form of procrastination. Please realize that your brain actually comes pre-equipped with a social skills processing center. However, it cannot be programmed by books, only experience. Think of social self-help books as like training wheels to inform peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 11:39 AM
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I am sick and tired actually, of how much they emphasize tone and niceness over substance. Hamstering and shaming based on tone is a survival mechanism for the weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 11:26 AM
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What's got you in tizzy, insulting me left and right, is because I said you're a misogynist. I've dismissed you, and that aggravates you. And you're right. Your beliefs are so absurd to me, your attitude is so hostile, that you really aren't worth much more than dismissing. It's the same way an adult diamisses an argumentative child: because it just not worth arguing with them. If you want to to take this as your victory, then you go right ahead. He's... actually right. You are hamstering. I rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 11:25 AM
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I love this. Excellent goals. One with the motivation can see exactly how they are possible and ones without will only see over-reaching. I hope you're the former and actively thinking and planning about how to make it happen. The only possible way to not end up anywhere after displaying motivation like that is to lose it. For your sake... please don't.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/15 09:05 PM
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since everyone thought they were useless compared to a male child Though to be fair, in the countries where this happens, and among the demographics where this happens, they are in fact, useless comparatively to a male child. In pretty key categories too. Its not even misogyny. Its just straight up sense. I mean, if a poor mother aborted a child she knew she couldn't raise, you wouldn't be against that. But if it so happened that the child that is hard to raise is a girl, given, you know, women …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 09:21 AM
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This belongs in redpillwomen. Leave.
/r/TheRedPill31/10/15 09:11 PM
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Also, even if I was thinking about marriage(I am), I'd still support her not having any power to "divorce rape" me, or whatever that implies. See, I like my double standards. Right now, my woman is entirely dependent on me and honestly doesn't have much recourse. Even if she woke up one day, got nervous, didn't trust me and wanted to change it, there's not much she could do. In our particular case, the laws where I am (Hong Kong, I'm a citizen while she's a non-permanent immigrant) protect me in…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 09:13 AM
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Its probably the baby thing, man. She probably just doesn't want to leave her kids in daycare while both parents work. Talk to her about her what she wants to do in case you guys have kids. Its obvious the one-parent-stays-home idea appeals to her, bu just that right now, her go-to option seems to be for you to stay home. Just be cool and talk/think about the kids eventuality. She's thinking ahead, so don't be so startled and clueless in comparison. She's not saying stupid shit, the captain just…
/r/askTRP12/10/15 07:08 AM
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By saying "dont go to school", she's offering to make herself morally and financially responsible for supporting you forever. Tell that to her. Let it sink in. Then kiss her head like the child she is, and tell her you have your own ambitions that you want to realize. And then tell her some. Tell her what your mission is. Because as it is, she thinks you've got nothing better to do. EDIT: on the other hand, she might just think you've got nothing better to do IN COMPARISON to being a caregiver t…
/r/askTRP11/10/15 09:57 PM
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The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 01:55 PM
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You were often insightful and constantly helpful and you will be missed. I hope you'll still find yourself coming back when you've got a bit of room in your life again. Until then I hope you find luck in everything you do. Sincerely, A stranger from Hong Kong you helped way back when. I've stepped away from TRP for a while myself over the past year. I'm gonna make time over the next few months and try to give back. Maybe I'll recognize you again here someday.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/15 06:07 PM
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Reporting. I haven't been very active on reddit at all lately because my job requires me to travel. I was active on TRP for the year 2013 mostly. And then I just tapered off. I remember my advice used to get a bit of love then. I'll help you out with the proof. Since of the 10 or so posts I made in the last 3 months, only 1 was on TRP: http://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/30wnsr/repeat_you_are_not_an_ambassador/cpwtqu0
/r/askTRP25/06/15 06:48 AM
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In practice, the purpose seems to be to contain the people who are willing and able to talk about red pill theory from doing so outside of the bubble. TRP has no agendas about evangelizing. But it does have people who are, unintentionally I'm sure, inclined to do so. /u/CFRPRoflcopter is doing the leftist world a great favour by containing sense on /r/purplepilldebate. Personally, I don't think it has much value otherwise. While you can sometimes strike on new thoughts by thinking about question…
/r/askTRP25/06/15 06:27 AM
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I largely agree, except concepts of "wrong" are motivators and grant power to arguments of "do we wish to forbid it or not?" Using only practical measures to decide if something should be allowed is untenable for a number of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 11:48 PM
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There is plenty of legal precedent where people who ejected or turned away guests knowing that without temporary accommodation, they will suffer or die have been prosecuted and jailed for life. Especially when those hosts took the guests on in the first place. My car, my choice has never held up in court. A woman becoming pregnant through voluntary intercourse has tacitly provided consent for the child to exist and use her body. In fact, she is the reason it has come to depend on her body in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 11:42 PM
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A non-sentient being is not a person. Then I may kill you as soon as you lose consciousness. A person to wake from coma in a few months would be fair game too. And glad you concede the other points.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 11:09 PM
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This entire argument is stupid. Your ability to dehumanize something via rationalizations has no bearing on whether it should or should not be allowed. For example, during the Sino-Japanese war, the Japanese had propaganda that quite effectively and consistently dehumanized the Chinese. To the point, many officers recorded refraining from atrocity only because it was defined as a war crime by laws Japan was treaty to. And they expressed their disgust for having to do so. Just because you can rat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 11:02 PM
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When two consenting adults start reproducing sexually, they should be aware of what exactly it is they are doing and their responsibility for the results of those actions. A woman becoming pregnant through voluntary intercourse has tacitly provided consent for the child to exist and use her body. In fact, she is the reason it has come to depend on her body in the first place. Double mindedness after that is what is in my opinion reprehensible morally. In the same way a father who takes part in i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 10:38 PM
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If I don't want something else living inside of me sucking away my nutrients, making me tired and sick and ruining my body, I shouldn't have to. Unless you put it there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 10:26 PM
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then it's a person to me. Go back 80 years, and many invading Japanese would not consider me a person. It doesn't matter what you are or are unable to humanize. For example, people have routinely en-masse justified themselves into mass-murder throughout history. In this case, it suits your agenda to dehumanize someone with a set genetic destiny to be human because it inconveniences a woman. And so you do. Based on arbitrary levels of helplessness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 10:24 PM
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I don't even drink and I'd take you up on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 07:48 PM
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Turn your argument around. No one gives a fuck about tolerating or even trying to understand a group who refuse to tolerate or understand others. And make it about BP. We existed for a long time, and in many other, far less radical forms, before TRP was born.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 07:46 PM
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... A lot of kind words today. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 06:01 PM
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I did not say they wouldn't fear them. In some ways, you could say my woman fears me. Her fear would never turn her off from being my woman though. I know what I'm saying is bizarre to you. But after you're done being disgusted with me, you will go back to your boyfriend who engages in misogyny-lite with you. Maybe you'll even engage in rough sex or dominance play and enjoy it. Or gill yourself off to a fan-fiction of someone with whom you can. Its all the same. I think the fundamental reason BP…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 06:00 PM
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While being pretty is a form of being attractive no doubt... Justin Bieber, One Direction and all the rest don't owe their success to solely that. Being pretty just gets the ball rolling. What they actually are the ultimate proofs of pre-selection. A man who is liked by many women is a spectacle by nature. He has the ultimate, most primal bling of all: women. And nowadays, he can get millions of those. For this feat, he is envied by men, and he is loved and sought after by women. These groups ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 05:08 PM
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If a belief has been held by a lot of people, that doesn't make it right. Of course not. The fact that it is right is what makes it right. People have been in relationships that would be defined by you as untenable and unconscionable and unhealthy for thousands of years. Right uptil the end of the time when people still got married. I have my empirical evidence. I have the proof of eternity that it works, and has nurtured the age-old dream of love. What do you have? A skyrocketing divorce rate, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 04:34 PM
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I'm sure there's not a single person on this web forum who'd disagree with you on the gist of that statement(despite what you might think). But at the same time, this kind of statement, as alluring as it, is exactly what we fear when we refuse to temper the red pill's speech and tone to suit the moderate crowd. So let me attempt to make the red pill position on why we refuse to accept this as clear as I possibly can. As respectable as your sentiment is, this is what we call a platitude. i.e. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 08:06 AM
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May I recommend to all the TBPers who believe this to take a look at the last 10,000 years of recorded human history? There are a lot of "normal, balanced, self-actualized men with successes with women and careers" who held blatantly misogynistic biases about women. The majority of humanity that's ever lived even. There's a pretty good chance, if you have a historical figure that you admire, that he or she was a "misogynist" too. The great Buddha, Napoleon, Florence Nightengale, Nikola Tesla, Qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 05:52 AM
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make a post on it.
/r/TheRedPill01/05/15 03:57 PM
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Here's the wiki on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 03:48 PM
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I believe men and women are equal. In terms of how they should be treated under the law. But I do believe they are different biologically. And psychologically. To a broad extent. These aren't incompatible beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 02:54 AM
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Holy shit. Guy is straightup RP: Here he is in some of his vids on date coaching speaking on Cockiness and negging(with tons of generalizations): "Using Cocky Comedy - Tell a Girl She BORES You! (With Sean Stephenson)" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbQEPjaxF2M "Cocky Comedy Treasures - Avoid the Friend - Tell Her She's STINKY! " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1GWrIazFPo He has others on creating attraction too. And hey cool, his co-host does my crazy questions thing:https://www.youtube.com/w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 03:45 AM
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Beta means "traits of provision". Alpha (generally) means "traits of leadership". In TRP, these can be thought of as the two main branches of attraction pertinent to understand and master. They are a simplification of the ways in which women value men. A man can be attractive and behave like a complete pussy. Another can be unattractive and an absolute tiger. Neither are beta or alpha intrinsically. However, their behaviours can generally be said to lean one way. IIRC, Roosevelt was a leader, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 03:29 AM
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Masculinity by nature is dominating. Some naturals prefer more challenging marks to dominate. They are bored with anything less. The beginners in TRP are overwhelmingly not naturals. They prefer not to even have to play the game. And if they do, they want the easiest difficulty setting possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 05:18 PM
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You are getting the links mixed up. I'm going to have to assume your other "sources" use similar arm reaching, which I'm sure is embraced well by true believers, but otherwise not convincing (and kind of perpetuate the stigma of TRP as a cult). You had already made up your mind before you clicked anything, and might've even gotten lost in the links on purpose. You make a good case for why TBP accusations of research inaccuracy or of being a cult should not be given weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 01:24 PM
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Pardon my english. But no, men are decidedly not as submissive here as women are. But the amount of success enjoyed by women is undeniably ahead of the west. I believe it is because of the way these cultures themselves approached reforms seeking to increase participation. For better or worse, tradition could not be tossed in the pursuit of equality there. It had to be worked with. No promises of future merit gained from female inclusions were taken without evidence. Everything started with the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 12:37 PM
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Sort of like how you see more women in top careers as they start to break out of traditional teachings and become more confident in themselves. I mean most the women in CEO positions got there with typical male techniques of negotiation, confidence not submissiveness & politeness. I mean I worked my way up in Tech a primarily male dominated field like that. I am Chinese, and we probably have much more parity between the sexes in positions of corporate power and in STEM than the west does, and it…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 11:34 AM
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In the 2003 study, answers for non-sexual questions stayed unaffected by the "lie detector" for both sexes. Men's answers for sexual questions more or less stayed constant for sexual questions. But for women, the data changed like so: 2.6 partners - interview 3.4 partners - survey 4.4 partners - fake lie detector test The 2013 the study had few changes in methodology save sample size. I managed to get a pdf before but all I can find is the study behind a paywall now: http://link.springer.com/art…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 10:44 AM
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Lifting is identified, not because it is the core of TRP, but because the barrier of entry to playing the game is being attractive, and in control of your life and lifting is an efficient route to that. i.e. it works a lot of areas at once. Forming a habit of discipline and willpower to accomplish other goals practicing forming good habits(research says 30 days is usually all it takes to make a habit) feeling of accomplishment to offset the cyclical nature of depression(do nothing, feel bad, do …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 11:36 PM
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OK, I am a RP guy who has made a bunch of posts with evidence. I don't come here much anymore, but when I did, a lot of people told me that they really liked what I posted, essays or linkspam alike. Here are some links to science posts I've made that was compiled earlier. I expanded it too( note though that my english was much worse in the earliest ones). I don't expect the circlejerking that we don't have evidence will ever die though. And I also expect that people who get their opinions from t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 11:08 PM
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http://www.medicaldaily[ ]com/men-and-women-lie-about-sexual-behavior-meet-cultural-expectations-246302 Influenced by cultural expectations, men and women will lie about their sexual behavior but not about whether they engaged in other gender-related behaviors, a new study finds. These results confirm a 2003 study by Fisher in which she found that women who weren't hooked up to a lie detector reported fewer sexual partners than men. But when they were hooked up to one, their numbers evened out w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 11:22 AM
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This reminds me of the kind of behaviour that one would expect from gossip subs, like /r/TheBluePill or /r/SubredditDrama. If you are pathetic enough to feel the need to bring in massive brigades for validation every time you lose an argument, or when you need a laugh track for your jokes, you really don't belong here. If you want to engage in arguments, face the noise. Don't run to us for a kiss on your boo-boo. And make no mistake, you lost those arguments. Remember this the next time you're s…
/r/TheRedPill31/03/15 05:00 PM
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Arguably, if rape were legal and acceptable, I don't think anyone would be hanging out on a forum about seducing women. So the question is kinda dumb(no offence). But as far as the quote goes, a theoretical discussion of the best strategy for rape, as well as how not to be punished doing it("double standards" if you will) would be amoral. In fact, some people's interpretations of that phrase does go into complete moral nihilism. That in the grand scheme of things, rape and murder and how people …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 02:01 PM
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Oh, like how in China there's an assload more men than women because girls are systematically aborted, killed or left to die because they're seen inherently as less worthy than boys? "Women are valuable by default" my ass. So the one example of women being less valuable is when they're aborted by poor people or people whose economic future depends on their only allowed child being a son? Valuing boys for them is not about being worthy as about being practical. The gender gap has more factors to …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/15 01:42 AM
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I think in the current atmosphere of hyper-political correctness, its just a few guys who are just pissed they're excluded from the protection against political incorrectness. And even then, this subset of MRAs is pitifully small, highly marginalized and subject to even more bashing in response to their protests. The mainstream male really doesn't care. One of the most popular and valid things on the MRA sub, for example, is simply gender-flipping things feminists say or putting the word "Jew" i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 07:22 PM
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Women do lie. And since the research is clear, one would expect that there is a reason they lie too. More likely than not you are deluded about how honest your friends really are. Its not us living in a fanfic. It further assumes that having sex with a man permanently alters a woman's physiology as if she is damaged. It does correlate with some indicators that she is drastically poorer LTR material though. Here you go, OP. Have some research.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 05:04 PM
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This so much. Do not ask the fish. On a debate forum where they arguing they are not fish no less. I also have a suspicion that the population of PPD is extremely atypical as far as the normal man and woman is concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 03:39 PM
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OK, I have something to say, and I believe people have somethign to gain from understanding this about hateful content and communities. Sorry for my english. Written in a rush First, from the red pill "shaming tactics" glossary: Anger is a legitimate emotion in the face of injustice. It is important to remember that passive acceptance of evil is not a virtue. Even if we disagree with their outrage over TRP, we can't just invalidate their feelings as about being on a "high-horse" because we disag…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 03:17 PM
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The comment above I deleted because it is a duplicate. Also, do not tell me what my rebuttal rests on. This is transparent derailing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 12:23 PM
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I'm not going to waste my time on you with a long comment thread like the others. So take sense or leave it. Realize: You made a claim and now are avoiding presenting the burden of evidence via quote, like you were asked to. This makes you look extremely disingenuous. You are manufacturing words into OP's post to attack it. He did not state or imply lack of challenge, questioning or an overabundance of "gold stars" reassurances. You are changing the subject onto yourself in an extremely solipsis…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 11:35 AM
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Something I make a point in every relationship is to play this game where instead of some intimate "I love you", I tell my woman explicitly that I own her. That she is mine. That I will do with her as I please. Mostly they just find it shocking, cocky, rude, erotic, etc. Or it just becomes the basis for some playful back and forth dominance play between us. where she tests my dominance flirty harmless banter(like at night "I don't belong to you anymore" "Nobody asked you") and I usually just esc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 10:54 AM
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So you want someone who will always reassure your ego about how great you are and never challenge you to do any introspection and always gives you a gold star for trying even if you horribly fuck up, even though you'd never know it was a horrible fuck up. Where did he imply that? Point it out for us. Please. Its astounding how having the slightest standards in having a well-behaved women nowadays is shamed as some sort of ego play. If I were a woman and said I wanted a guy who loved to shower me…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 10:22 AM
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That said, its still interesting. And it makes a good argument to how the market is affected by social factors. The thing to note though is that these conditions are artificial. In the real world, the biological male tendancy to have a higher sex drive, to take more risks, and both sexes' selective pressure for each to conform to gender roles will mean that men will generally be doing the approaching. It is an interesting thought experiment but not one whose results are widely applicable to sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 10:11 AM
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You are saying that males are turned on by the fact that a woman resists sexual attempts, which is completely false. I am. Its a bit of an "extremes" issue for me. If she's completely desperate for my cock, that turns me on. If she's resisting, that turns me on even more. You just can't lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 02:50 AM
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In short, in total war, everyone is a resource. Well put. I would argue the bit about total war is unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 02:44 AM
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I once got a BPer point out to me this post by a RPer because it included the following quote: "What a mad idea to demand equality for women! . . . Women are nothing but machines for producing children." - Napoleon Bonaparte She asked me to speak up against this misogyny because ideas like these are harmful to men. And I was like, it turned out fine for napoleon.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 03:50 PM
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Keep living in fear of these phantom threats, if you want, but this quintessentially BP mindset of scarcity is not one we share with you. There are more women in just where I live than I know what to do with. Opting out of this social engineering initiative of yours will affect nothing, because unlike you SJW, I realize how pointless this self-sacrificing crusade is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 03:00 PM
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This a tired TBP tactic where you take a simple logical notion, and stretch it to absurdity, to pretend like you have a point. Bank robbery is illegal. And if it were a legitimate means of getting rich, it would be even more respected than it begrudgingly already is. Sleeping around, on the other hand, is not illegal. It is not cheating the system, it is excelling at the competitive sexual market. The point made by /u/JP_Whoregan was simply that it takes skill to be a "stud". It only takes atten…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 02:36 PM
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Why is TRP so critical of women that have had several sex partners while men are encouraged to "spin plates" all the time? TRP is concerned about men getting what they want. It is specifically sexual strategy for men. If men can have their cake and eat it too, TRP would tell them to go for it. Whether it's fair or consistent or a double-standard is absolutely irrelevant. The only thing that matters is male sexual strategy turn out well for males. As the chant you may have heard of from TRP goes …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 09:35 AM
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I have been into pickup since 2009ish, I'm fairly sociable, I've traveled a lot. But I have never in my life encountered hyper-active feminists like the kind BP represents, nor the masculinists like those the RP represents, in reality. Most of the time I tell girls sexist RP shit to their face and they don't even care. Most agree with me. Its just common sense. Yet here we will nitpick sentences like "women are X" for committing the crime of lacking legalese and sounding too much like "generaliz…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 09:09 AM
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The relationship is the session. I've mellowed out after relationships though, and generally women call me out for being "confusing".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 08:56 AM
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I have a partner count of over 40. I don't know if guys would be so forgiving if I were a woman. Women though, they don't really care. Past the odd "did you do that for her/all the other girls too?" shit-tests, they're mostly satisfied with having a guy who knows what to do. Relationship anxiety is natural, but being there are ways of fixing that too. If you're interested, I wrote a full post a while back on what it takes to overcome concerns when it comes to sexual history. I answered other que…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 08:30 AM
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Do you honestly believe for one second that the BP population of PPD is representative of normal people?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 08:06 PM
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Most women have passive game, i.e. they wait and choose. They make do with the first decent, attractive guy who's into them, and makes them feel all the proper feelings. The scenario you're playing in your head where you lead with your partner count or hard intentions never really happens(unless of course, you have hard intentions, but then you're not interested in this discussion anyway). What actually happens is you meet someone, hit it off, and see where you go. If she's into you, she's usual…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 08:01 PM
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Again, you are assuming things without data. There is absolutely no question that the world imposes limits on our sexuality(and most of our other behaviours). Your argument basically boils down to: if you change the limits imposed, you will produce previously unseen trends. This is definitely true. However, that only indicates that biology is being limited by social mores. It is not an argument against our urges being evolutionary evolved. So in the case of the example you gave just now, it does…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 10:17 AM
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I think societal norms affect sexuality so much more than biology. Are the mechanism(s) by which societal norms affect behaviour separate from biology? Look into https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotic_plasticity Regardless, it is a fallacy to simply assume societal norms affect our biological sex drives more so than biology. It is like saying because we know there is a cap placed on behaviour, it means that behaviour can be anything, rather than simply that there is a certain cap placed upon behav…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 09:44 AM
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I'm talking about what you want in a woman for a LTR. I wanted a woman... Who had large breasts (she doesn't) Who cooks up a storm (she's terrible) Who was zero drama (bitch wakes me up to cry over bad dreams) Who had brown or red hair (She won't even dye it) Who would make a good impression on my parents (I actually had to introduce her in person as a different woman than their first conversation over the phone, just to get them talking fresh) Who was a virgin (she goddamn actually changed my m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 05:02 PM
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I've never pursued LTRs specifically post-RP. I just got with girls, with an MO of "anything can happen"(in practice, aggressive escalation) and let them convince me they were worth it if they wanted. I got into pickup around 2009-ish, and have had my share of LTRs and casual sex both, as well as lots of rejections. Most RPers are the same I think. Plates are promoted to gf-status. No woman starts off with privileges she didn't earn. They compete. I have an advantage in that I'm in Hong Kong(wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 09:26 AM
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I've enough experience and common sense to know they're talking out of their ass when they say that either you're a failure or you're just like any other. Maybe her sex life has been awful, maybe she's a virgin, I don't know, but she's wrong. FWIW, I feel similarly about men who say the only thing women do is lay there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/15 07:42 PM
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Personally, I would rather become a crazy old cat lady than ever settle for a guy I'm not into. Of course, you're into him at some level. The question is mostly about sex. When you pursue sex for sex's sake, you try for the most attraction. And when you pursue partners for family or stability's sake, you try for different qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/15 09:38 AM
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I would say you sound like you have little idea what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/15 09:34 AM
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I would also add that some people enjoy reaching consensus through discussion and compromise. And some people don't. Isn't this idea the issue? That men and women have prescribed roles and RP is 'smart' enough to recognize and follow them? How can RP presume that it is 'bad' when men prefer to be led and women to lead? Why make it gendered at all? I think the bulk of the problem here is the bit I've bolded in this quote. loris, as a general rule, if one would go on TRP and use the words "good" o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 05:32 AM
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Anything can seem like anything if you look for it. I look at it as more about power, and control. Some people want to lead, some people want to be lead, or don't care. I'm the former, and I try to create relationships where the latter is worth being. I think if ego was my goal, there'd be a lot more symbolism. I'd have her call me "sir" or something. Maybe wear a collar. As it is, you couldn't recognize us as about male ego if you lived with us. Control and power is much more silent and insidio…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 01:22 PM
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NOT the weaselly "equal but different - she is in charge of cooking and nurturing, I am in charge of making long term decisions for the family" because you are lying to us and yourself if you claim you genuinely believe that is equality. Thats the kind of equality a cleaner has to a CEO. If your goal is your relationship with your ego, then no, that is not equality. But our relationship is about more than conforming to feminist ideals, where value is linked with how in-charge you feel. To your q…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 03:25 AM
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I think you're ascribing insecurity to indifference here just because you may not personally be able to understand how one can genuinely not give a shit. Its like assigning malice to self-interest because one finds it difficult to understand how little people base their actions around you. Hell, it may speak of defensiveness and insecurity on your own part. I say RPers aren't contemptful of women's own pursuits any more than any other aspect of women. Its true that RPers judge women through the …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 05:36 PM
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Which...are never mentioned. By BP and RP alike. Including you. The only science related post you've ever made(minus the circlejerking) was not only irrelevant to TRP, but also completely failed to provide these details you're preaching everyone else should always mention. Alright, next time I will ask about power, confidence intervals, study design and lastly, the stated limitations. No. You go into the study and illustrate your point. You (rather ironically) made the claim that we are digging …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 03:25 PM
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I really really urge you to share this argument of yours with TRP. I think it provides a very interesting perspective. Send me a link too if you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 10:32 AM
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Huh. I used "just world fallacy" wrongly. I apologize. Fixed. As for appeals, I meant your attempts to relate to me. "And look, I date women too. And I've been hurt and they're assholes, But just because I've been hurt before, doesn't mean I go around demonizing everyone". Either this story attempts to relate to my motives, or its irrelevant. I don't remember the last time I've personally been hurt by a woman. And about when I said you have no argument, what I meant is this: I argued AWALT is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 09:41 AM
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I meant that you would not be able to tell, in line with uhaj's answer above. If you'll follow the link I posted, it should be obvious that that is what I meant. In general, I don't respect anyone unless they give me reason to. This doesn't mean that people around me are aware of that. But I do subtly deny them benefits that I would give people I respect. For what its worth, I don't hold myself as a paragon of LTR material either. I can identify negative habits I've picked up, and flaws in my Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 08:27 AM
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So you have no real argument against AWALT. Besides "you shouldn't demonize people". To your first point, yes it is sexism. But your wishes about how it should be are relevant. Its a "just world" fallacy. Reality doesn't shift just because of your what you would rather it was. You are wonderful simply because you're a woman. You will enjoy the benefits and pitfalls of sexism until you die. And whether or not you demonize men, you still have all the relevant safeguards in place. You sitll make th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 08:00 AM
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I'll jump in again. Just as the rate at which women are initiating divorcing goes to 90% of the time when they don't need the man as much(due to having a college degree), when they feel they're more powerful(self-reporting on their "confidence", "distance to partner" and "the perception of risk as it relates to infidelity.") they readily admit to cheating as much as men. So equal opportunity balances things out enormously. Even when we don't question infidelity. (Though in fact, one of the main …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 05:18 AM
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If you understand research, demonstrate it. Don't brag about your STEM-dick online. Nobody is asking you to lower standards, but to actually demonstrate your understanding and be relevant to the debate. So far, you're neither finding papers to support hypotheses better than your average RPer, nor you are any good at refuting their relevance when its a RPer posting. All you do is circlejerk about your STEM degree. That is pathetic fedora'd "le redditeur" level stuff, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 03:00 AM
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/7942192/Unfaithful-men-twice-as-likely-to-be-caught-cheating-than-women.html
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 05:32 PM
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This is a circlejerky, hypocritical meme that has been shot down a dozen times by now. The only reason it still exists is because you go back to your circlejerk sub to reaffirm to yourselves your correctness. Few of you have ever been able to produce a single example of this claim and whats more, are guilty of this yourselves more often than not. Conveniently, you drop your STEM-lord act for studies that support your view, and treat those with fanatical benefit of the doubt. This same criticism …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 05:04 PM
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I'm sure this post will seem out of the blue, but... minus any presumptions, I've probably gone through exactly what you're feeling now. In fact, if there's a difference, I think I used to obsess over it more. I won't go into any uninvited humblebrag about myself or my life story, I'm sure you don't want that and could do without it, but 20s isn't too late, you know. For anything. There's a lot of opportunities to live a fulfilled life yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 03:55 PM
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I am TRP and I am one of the most sex-positive people you would ever meet. And everything I've heard from other users suggests the same(more links inside, optional). Cannot respect sluts though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 02:56 PM
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Does offensive equal wrong? For what its worth, since we are on a debate, let me attempt to put your mind at ease. I wrote a sourced explanation of AWALT a while ago that seems to have been well-recieved and has been linked back to by several others for convenience. Here it is. If you have a rebuttal, I'd like to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 02:39 PM
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http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/the-biggest-lies-in-online-dating/ You're right. For women, only height above 6feet correlates with a significant decrease in male interest. Which could be accounted for men not wanting to be shorter than her. For men, height difference between 5'6" to being 6'1" correlates with almost twice as much interest from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 12:58 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2h5rrz/women_are_not_adults/ckpqrak The "most responsible teenager in the house" link is hyperbole. Intended to provoke those of RP's massive traffic inflows who can't read into self-filtering. Anyone who is unwilling to think outside of PC mores will click that link and go away. Most of those who remain will tend to comment in ways where we can ban them easier. "The most responsible teenager" is clicked far far and ahead of anything else on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 10:25 AM
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OK, lets do matrix metaphors. Everyone on TRP operates in a Real world that is blue, and has internalized its norm of behaviours and beliefs long before they ever read rational male. And they go back to that world every day, minus an hour on rp. They are not in "Zion" on TRP. They are basically in an illusory safe place on the internet, within a BP website, where they can discuss and internalize an understanding of the sexual market around them. The point isn't to "escape from the matrix", but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 09:43 AM
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The thing about that sub is that its basically TBP, without the circlejerking. They claim to "punch Morpheus", and "reject blue and red pills" both, but in reality, its just another feminist sub, circlejerking all day about the things to reject in the red pill, but nothing about the blue pill(not even the dumb stuff). There is no balance. They discuss insanely oversensitive definitions of toxic and non-toxic, and cheapen the definition of abuse and misogyny to whatever slightly inconveniences wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 05:11 AM
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As always, you're not getting the point. People care about looks, but they don't emulate DT to magically be more good-looking. The assertion that RP tries to be DT in mindset to magically change their appearance is asinine. DT is pursued not because it miraculously makes you physically attractive, but because DT behaviour in males is attractive to women. Most of pickup/dating strategy is based off watching naturals at work. The most efficient of naturals are usually DTs, because they're undeterr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 06:08 PM
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Psychopathy is not a monolith. Primary psychopathy resembles what redpill sometimes aims at emulating. Secondary psychopathy, for the vast majority of traits, does not resemble any RP model of alpha, except that of naturals. The only trait common to secondary psychopaths is sexual promiscuity, which I mostly just think follows from poor impulse control, and greater DT likelihood to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 05:39 PM
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Who cares about physical attractiveness? That much could just be produced by the fact that DTs in unadorned states would be finicky and unconfortable for the photograph, especially women. Why would personality traits be pursued for physical attractiveness?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 05:20 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/29zemy/ladies_of_reddit_what_tastes_in_men_do_you_have/ciq2j5j
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 05:17 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/9ZOeFdN.png
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 04:30 PM
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I would imagine it would be more traumatic for a woman. It being sexual in nature, and her being weaker and far more afraid.
/r/MensRights14/03/15 03:43 PM
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Notice the same among really experienced applicants at my company(chemE related). The women are fewer, but hard-core. My theory is that they self-select. Those who elect to continue to work despite the gender imbalance, or don't choose to leave the workforce, are people who really love the work. And they universally get the respect they deserve.
/r/MensRights14/03/15 03:40 PM
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New to this sub and thought I'd contribute with a shitty paint-edit of a viral /v/ meme I saw. That said, I suck at memes :( Here's another someone else made in response: https://imgur.com/TcQRcKD
/r/TRPOffTopic12/03/15 04:33 PM
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Tell him. And then consistently reward his efforts to change.
/r/RedPillWomen11/03/15 12:00 PM
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Only a little though. Remove the title and it asks a fair question. Most people would give answers most of those as male. Even more if we had to exclude family. I personally honestly tried to name women and could not. Its not that I don't know awesome women, its that my first choice picks would be male or myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 12:57 AM
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Here's the research on it. You tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 02:14 AM
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Thanks. Done
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/15 01:38 PM
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edit; sorry for my english. 1: Blue Pill means to be "willfully ignorant". It is most often used to refer to people who've encounter negative consequences because of it, the most common example of BP is actually TRPers in their past. BPs are people who ignore reality and instead stick to pretty lies and fanciful and idealistic ideas of why they fail or how things work. Whether or not you agree with the meaning or its application, this is what the term is supposed to mean. 2: The things men do th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 08:27 PM
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One readily available example of how reliable data from surveys is partner counts; http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/12/weekinreview/12kolata.html?_r=0 Where nearly all surveys present a reality that should be mathematically impossible. We know its wrong. Yet we still buy into the idea that self-reporting is reliable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 02:19 AM
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Agreed with this. But I still struggle to understand what the point of the OP even is. Even if we buy the argument of which gender is more self-absorbed. Suppose I posted a study on /r/feminism of how about 40% of abuse is women towards men. However, is the stance of feminism that women do not abuse men? Aren't I being disingenuous by competing in some "most victim" contest? The study I posted is completely irrelevant to the discussion and position of "feminism". This is the exact same thing. Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 02:16 AM
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luxo42, I understand and respect your point and I think you're a good example of debater that either side should aspire to but as someone from RP that regularly posts research, I do think there's veracity to the idea that neither side is receptive to studies which contradict their worldview. And I will admit I am biased to believe its blue pill more than red. Simply because they have more tropes to defend, such as NAWALT and the fact that they take research that offends them as a personal insult…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 02:12 AM
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/u/alreadyredschool's comment and how you take issue with it is representative of how you guys aren't really even debating with us, but instead a strawman of us. Suppose I posted a study on /r/feminism of how about half of abuse is women towards men. However, is the stance of feminism that women do not abuse men? Aren't I being disingenuous by competing in some "most victim" contest? The study I posted is completely irrelevant to the discussion and position of "feminism". This is the exact same …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 08:31 PM
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That's a very selective use of that stance coming from BP. I can't count how many times studies or evidence of patterns is dismissed because "Sounds like Biotroofs" you didn't read the study [because, you will be told, laymen just repeat the headline of a pop-news piece written by a journalist who only read the abstract], it didn't say what you think it says, and/or NAWALT. The study isn't enough; there's a lot of people out there in the world and this one isn't representative. If there are more…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 08:14 PM
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Can TRP acknowledge that relationships like the ones I've lived can exist? Of course it does. Its not feminist marriages that are disagreed with. Its being a beta. Your 3 examples of "feminist" relationships are just ones in which the male acts in politically exemplary ways. I wonder if my own relationship would be "feminist" in your eyes. If so, why would TRP choose not to pursue those types of relationships? Because we do think they tend to be disadvantageous though. Or at least much less adva…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 04:58 PM
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Sigh. This is why I really dislike arguing with bluepill. Its like everything is unknowable, and unless you can definitively nail down every last woman or man, you have nothing. Anything less politically correct is dismissed off-hand with a Not All Women Are Like That. Along with the meme of unsupported "either your citation is wrong or you haven't read it right". The pattern for fluidity is undeniable, and agreed upon by almost all research in the field. Its expressed in a variety of ways in on…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 02:13 AM
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It debunks your idea that men only display less fluidity because they're conditioned not to. Its not a position that's ever held up to scrutiny. Examples of fluidity in women find little parallel in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 02:11 PM
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This theory was debunked years ago. http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/201006/why-there-will-never-be-viagra-women Those who claim this just means men are more likely to be repressing some universal human bisexuality should consider sexologist Michael Bailey’s fMRI scans of gay and straight men’s brains while they viewed pornographic photos. They reacted as men (and dogs, with all due respect to both) tend to do: simply and directly. The gay subjects liked the photos showing men with m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 12:05 AM
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> Personally, I'd be very happy to see some of the papers that prove red pill logic. I have access to most major journals, so you can't just give me the citations if you can't find publicly available papers. Sure. why not. Red pill claims about dark triad. Sexual Strategy Theory posited by Buss and Schmitt, 1993. Over 2510 subsequent citations. It is an interesting read. Buss and Schmitt independently did further studies in 1994(cited by 990 papers), 2000, 2004, and 2007 across 48 countries and …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 12:39 AM
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This right here, is it. A plate is promoted to a gf, when she earns it. Giving women that privilege by default is a risk that carries little gain. A devil's advocate, I can think of though, is that a lot of quality woman would never want to be plated. They're offended and confused by it, and question why you'd want to do that. They refuse to be in that dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 08:11 PM
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Like, why are these facts that need to be considered? You don't care if you don't really turn your SO on? I editted it above to include the natural consequence of that too if its not clear, a lower sex drive. What women doesn't obsess over whether she's beautiful or wanted? You're taking completely out of your ass if you don't think they care. Lastly, I'm talking her in comparison to real people, not celebrities. Including people I've had relationships with and have fucked. Most men would mind t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 04:13 AM
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I don't see how any of this is different than what guys do also. I'm sure redpillers here would rather marry a 6 who is virginal, super sweet and submissive, and would be a good wife/mother over a 10 who has slept around a lot and is kinda bitchy. It's the exact same thing. I think this is a great argument, that probably speaks to a lot of RPers here, and though I find nitpicks to your first half, I'll leave that aside to focus on this. One thing I'd like to bring up though, is that while you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 02:29 AM
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First, as a "women want" statement, it is an absurd generalization even if it were true of a majority of women. I don't know what to say to logic like that. Even if this were better phrased, versions of this statement have been addressed endlessly on PPD and I don't think you need much of a rebuttal here. Second, because for most of the women who have this fantasy (whether they are a majority or not), the desire is for agressive fucking by someone they trust, which is another way of saying with …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 11:53 PM
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If she's resisting and saying no, and still wants you to continue, it is legally rape. A woman wants to lose control. That is the crux of what's being said. Also, don't pretend for one second that the clarification you gave now was present upwards in this comment chain. You are all just circlejerking till this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 01:44 PM
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If she's resisting and saying no, and still wants you to continue, it is legally rape. A woman wants to lose control. That is the crux of what's being said. Also, to male fantasies. "I have a fantasy of hot women raping me" would translate very well to "Men want to be raped by hot women".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 01:39 PM
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Go gossip. You obviously can't reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 11:00 PM
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I agree with this whole-heartedly. I think the first half of your post should be read and absorbed by many people here, and not just OP or RP. Now to topic: IMHO in his original post on this the only part /u/Cyralea got wrong was his provocative, and arguably inaccurate use of the term rape. By some definitions(anywhere from lack of enthusiastic consent to struggling and saying no) it definitely could be. But by that point, she wants him to continue. Her reactions can be mixed as fuck, but she s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 07:49 PM
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See OP title. He corrected the only error in /u/cyralea's original post. Its not rape anymore. By some definitions(anywhere from lack of enthusiastic consent to struggling and saying no) it could be. But by that point, she wants him to continue. She wants this hypothetical man to "rape"/ravish her. She wants to be so desired that he cannot stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 07:07 PM
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By that standard, almost all BPers here seem incapable of change. Anyone selectively applying that to the person who disagrees should also take a good long look at themselves. To BPers, any perceived slight towards women is taken as not just an attack on their beliefs, but as a personal insult. When you breach political correctness, all bets are off. They're immediately on the defensive, and start to question character and moralize. To them, an argument exists to make you say something that prov…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 07:04 PM
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Women would not care about communication, or consent having to be provided given that the man is sufficiently high value. Value, being subjective. This is the theoretical assertion being made. That a fantasy speaks of a desire. And the only thing seperating that from reality is there is no risk in fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 06:54 PM
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The only difference between fantasy and reality is there is no danger in fantasy. No danger of being hurt. No danger of your man being less than your (literal)dream man. So you act out your full desires in your head. The point of the OP's and /u/cyralea's assertions is that IF ONE HAD AN ATTRACTIVE MAN, a woman would want to be rape-able by him. Fantasy speaks of a desire. That dangers exist in the real world that over-ride it doesn't mean under the right circumstances, those dangers(unattractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 06:43 PM
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So your thread is dumb. You may notice how "dumb" is not a word which is focused specifically on your thread, but still describes it pretty well. Same deal here. While the term hypergamy is not gendered, it is used to refer to an economic phenomenon that in the vast majority of cases, is displayed among women. Men marrying women of a higher attractiveness would not fall under hypergamy because the word is not about subjective qualities like "physical attractiveness, intelligence, personality, et…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 07:28 PM
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What social engineering goal? This one: "lack of self-censorship results in further sexual frustration." In fact, your thesis on how to social engineer is pretty simplistic. I think effective social engineering using TRP could get pretty complicated. See, the Red Pill is a tiny sub who's only claim to having a legitimate voice on gender dynamics is the attention its given by people like you. Who hate it. I think the best thing that we could possibly do to encourage you to be a slut is to tell yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 07:02 PM
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And those ideals are never expressed outside the sub? And why should I care about this hypothetical? Why should I censor myself to entertain this social engineering goal of yours. Not only does MRA/feminism bullshit run antithetical to TRP's core values, this wouldn't even work. The majority of open slut-shaming is not done by men, but by women. The way men slut-shame is predominantly by not wanting to date her. Women however, slut-shame as a power play. Openly calling someone a slut is a way to…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 06:38 PM
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To add to this I say the entire question is based on a false premise. The word "slut-shaming" implies there are any sluts on TRP to be shamed. If there are any, they should ask themselves why they're there. How are we shaming anyone by expressing our own views to each other in a largely isolated community? We do not proselytize our views. We do not invite people. We do not go around telling sluts they're bad people. In fact, TRP strategy for dating involves being sex-positive, and escalating fas…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 06:01 PM
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Don't simplify what I said to just that. I'm talking about the general trend in this whole post. With girls unanimously distancing themselves from all sorts of common things women love, including but not limited to wanting a wedding one day. Its not that you don't have a bigger dream than your wedding, its that a lot of girls rate romance and occasions like this as things important to them. While no one in this thread seems to give one shit. I'm just noticing something smells funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:40 PM
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All the comments like this lead me to think sometimes that the population of PPD is unrepresentative of the real world. PPD full of mostly nerd girls and feminists. While in real life, perfectly politically-correct and gender-defying people are so rare, and women are a lot more... ordinary.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 08:55 PM
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This point of clarification deserves its own thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 02:17 PM
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Then explain to me why your thread isn't dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 01:58 PM
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All I can say is you've no idea what you're talking about regarding the last bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 12:43 PM
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Thank you for that answer. I think you won't hold it against me though when I say "people change" is not an excuse a man would emotionally be able to just settle for, even if he logically tries to. For a comparison to help you empathize, think of it like this, a hypothetical man constantly tried to get a previous gf to marry him, but his current one is aching for it and gets only stonewalling. She feels absolutely and viscerally hurt. And that ideology part though, that's beyond stupid. The RP e…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 01:50 AM
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The red pill does not judge women who only did it once and then chose to leave it. Only women who've had a pattern of doing it or being easy. i.e. She only behaves differently when a certain variable changes: the type of guy. What would be your explanation of mechanism then? Assume the person she married does not fall under your point 2(slutshamer).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 09:47 PM
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I don't get the inane questions. Sex is about satisfying your libido. Its about validation and ego, and power. And intimacy. A non-exhaustive list of core human emotional lists but you can imagine the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 03:21 PM
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Self improvement is but a means to an end. Everything worth doing is a means to an end. Of course people want to get laid. Nobody is doing this for themselves. And there's nothing unique or wrong with that. Anyone claiming otherwise is hamstering.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 07:18 AM
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You try those things on their own and report back to me about your sexual exploits. You don't just get laid for having fitness and having read books. Just ask /fit/ or bodybuilding.com. Self-improvement is just the barrier of entry to sexual strategy. Like having the equipment to playing sport. Fitness is just one means to create SMV that is identified and emphasized by RP because its efficient and works a lot of areas at once. Self-confidence, looks, body language, etc can be all improved in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 08:42 PM
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The OP is a topic one which has been making the rounds on PPD and TRP for a long time. Some of it is taken to heart, and TBP has gotten a lot better than it used to be. But for the most part its a change done very selectively: Its chucked out as soon as another convenient opportunity comes up. And so the cycle repeats. It'll continue as long as it keeps up. Just like with TRP and the things TRP is criticised for. Excuses crop up. Callings out are done. But the behaviour persists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 07:03 PM
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Yes, words betray no meaning. The undertones of derisiveness, contempt and emotion or how universally the meaning is understood is completely coincidental. These words are never ever used for anyone besides TRP or outside TBP. This is all just an elaborate ruse by the master Bluepill le-trollman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 05:06 PM
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Here's a dictionary level definition of hypergamy for you OP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypergamy >Hypergamy (colloquially referred to as "marrying up") is the act or practice of marrying someone wealthier, or of higher caste or status than oneself.[citation needed] Although the term is not gendered, it is generally used by social scientists to refer to women marrying higher-status men, rather than to men marrying higher-status women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 02:32 PM
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I don't like being manipulated or managed in any way. If I make her want to have sex, but she introduces some awkward qualifying game or puts herself in the front seat where I have to explicitly prove myself to her before getting access to pussy... I'm not down with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 12:23 PM
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This argument is a common one among blue pill. Just because its uncommon among women and men both doesn't mean it has to equally uncommon in one or the other. You find few grandmasters of chess or geniuses(creative and otherwise) among both, but you find a lot more males than females. I find women universally to be less funny, less original in their ideas and less compelling when communicating their ideas. Among other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 10:30 AM
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Its an expression, and as explicitly stated, one example of a larger point. They can avoid those words and still be... dumb. Which they largely are. Or at least, not terribly impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 11:23 PM
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Red Pill, INTP
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 09:42 AM
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What? No. This is only technically right but still misleading. I've read the OP linked study and its in my post too. It found men with 1 partner are happier, but no difference due to more relationships. Women did have a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 09:36 AM
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Quote something then illustrating your point. This hypothetical talk is pointless copypasta. By the exact same argument I could say "the problem is that X fallacy exists, and people rarely manage to avoid it. I didn't read your post really, but I just thought you should know this is why I disagree". The studies I posted show a enormous correlation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 09:28 AM
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Civil doesn't mean I have to pretend to like you or not notice what you are or what you're doing. In this case, the person is trolling and trying to provoke a response to get me to sink to her level. I pointed out, illustrating via evidence, the nature and intentions of the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 01:55 AM
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Why do you think I would make personal decisions such as who to sleep with and have a relationship with based on a study? That bit at the end is me stating the obvious. The purpose of the reply is to further the debate, and challenge the pre-conceived notions of BPers here with evidence, since they were complaining about the OP's. Two of your linked articles focus only on data pertaining to women, with the more thorough one specifically stating that it cannot make a case either way, due to insuf…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 12:50 AM
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I know I'm reposting this from a month ago but its convenient. Here is a comment containing some more evidence for OP's position. I originally made this comment to a thread claiming risk from promiscuity was trivial compared to educational background. This guy puts the data together across multiple studies far better than I could. Combined sample sizes in the tens of thousands; 1 , 2, 3, 4 No, I won't tl;dr. This stuff is interesting. If you really need one though, http://freenortherner.com/2013…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:42 PM
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The phrase OP used was intellectually engaging. I agree with that. Me, I've had intellectual conversations. I've had engaging conversations. Just never intellectually engaging conversations. I mean, I've been fascinated by a woman speaking plenty of times, but mostly because I have lower standards for them. for one example, a lot of women's vocabulary is as bad as like, whatever. And I tend to be more impressed when a girl speaks well. Overall though, women tend to be uninteresting, emotional an…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:18 PM
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Its a shame you waste your talents on the internet. That reply is a work of Machiavellian art. Each of your last 4 lines in order: Irrational accusations, victimcy, pre-empting any response and then character assassination. Bravo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 04:37 PM
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Show me where.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 03:55 PM
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Suit yourself, blue pill. Nothing really changes though. You're still just as manipulative as I am. Only less consciously. Does that give you moral superiority?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 01:06 PM
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You are conflating "fun" with "sincerity" and "relaxed". Pickup, flirting and dating is immensely fun. And I would argue relaxation and sincerity is also easily achievable with time. Your frame, game, your dominance, is like any skill you learn. Like driving or playing the piano, or walking. Your muscles know the precise order in which to cooperate to let you do those tasks, in a myraid of complex ways. You don't think about it consciously.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 12:16 PM
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This is the MO of clueless and docile people. Pretending that the game has no depth is boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 11:17 AM
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I'd like to emphasize the word "civil" if I can. civil ˈsiv(ə)l (adjective) Courteous and polite For what its worth, you can disagree vehemently and still be polite.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 12:17 AM
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What you're doing is a beginner mistake. You internalize a script, and when it ends, you stumble and look to us to provide the next few lines, and then you run out of that, and the cycle repeats. Over and over. Instead of a script, let me give you a tool on how to create one on the go: What do I want to do?" Ask yourself "what do I want" every single time you get stuck. DO you want to not be exclusive with her? Do you want her "fucking other men"? Do you want to be cold towards her? What do you …
/r/askTRP19/02/15 10:14 PM
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You now know a great reward to train her with. Give her a little validation when she deserves it.
/r/askTRP19/02/15 10:04 PM
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It was hilarious though
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 11:14 AM
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Dude, I was fucking wrong. No you weren't. You were slightly misleading. What you're doing here is the equivalent of those who kowtow for being mildly politically incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 09:06 AM
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So is saying people should be decent to one another. And refusing to go beyond vague platitudes like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 08:17 AM
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Nevermind /r/facesoftheredpill. The owner of the sub self-admits to making "case-studies of TRPers". The entire thing was creepy as fuck before it got taken private.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 05:47 AM
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Really rubbish logic. TRPers fear getting doxxed, simply because they're hated and often get reminders of being obsessively followed. This doesn't mean they're suddenly a monolith that absolves the tactic on their own end. That thread was nuked very fast, and you should obscure the username because you're still de-facto providing a link to the doxxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 03:50 AM
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I believe its more than prudent to assume people empathize with those they identify with the most. Post TRP, there are a number of areas where I have identified that I hamster. Denying that I do this(a.k.a. believing that I am fair or neutral, a quality literally everyone assigns to themselves) is one of them. That said, I think to believe most of the people answering in this thread, either you have to believe that most of the people here are exceptional human beings. Or they're lying/self-repor…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 03:06 AM
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Meh, we all have our BP stories. And to be fair, she was pretty cute. Edited out last part though. I didn't send texts so much as reply to a few and send a few on schedule.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 01:19 PM
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All women are insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 07:53 AM
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Gender roles and gender identity. Gender roles are not evolutionarily based, gender instincts are. Gender roles merely work with and guide those instincts towards the benefit of society. e.g. monogamy enforced on alphas, betas encouraged to work for society for status. etc. Gender roles for men and women both are constructs. Anyone can easily act outside of them. See TRP for an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 07:50 AM
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Nope. I've kissed one though. Years ago. Girl seemed pretty in to me, I thought she was cute, so we talked, and I took her somewhere quiet. Was getting definite vibes that I was liked. Plausible enough to escalate, so I kissed her. Just a quick peck on the lips at first, but she immediately switches modes. Got really alarmed, drops the shy act, stops everything immediately and tells me. It was weird but I didn't freak out. I told her I couldn't continue. She seemed like she was gonna cry though,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 07:42 AM
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Anyways the point is any one is replace at any time. its really just a fact of life. why be afraid of it. Human beings tend to think less logically than this. We could circlejerk all day about "why be afraid of dying" too, as a similar example. People are just intensely needy about the things they want. And as much as they hide it, you can subtly play on that. Women almost automatically do: In the RP model of relationships, the woman is the gatekeeper of sex and the man of commitment. Women's dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 06:41 AM
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Why wouldn't the above instill fear in women? Also the manosphere is disparate and large. marriedmansexlife is different from /r/TheRedPill.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 05:31 AM
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Where the fuck did you get that definition? I could include in the definition of [intimidate], "example: burn your house down" but that really misrepresents the nuance and meaning of the word. It sells short the variety of ways the majority of people intimidate. Here's a better definition: Dread game is a demonstration that you do not have a scarcity mindset, and have no inhibitions about leaving where you are unhappy. It is the implicit statement that if she does not add value to your life, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 10:23 PM
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The day before you posted up your introduction... when you first made a comment about getting the idea for this, I wrote up a reply to you... and the form got lost. Being lazy, I thought you were joking anyway and so it didn't matter. Having been proven thoroughly wrong I'm going to attempt to recall the gist of what it was. That said, my first attempts are usually best. Or at least, least worse. Also, do note, that while I'm an EC on TRP, and I've done a little pickup and date coaching in the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 10:14 PM
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Not at all. I like your stuff. In fact, I remember asking you to confirm if some posts by your previous account(agharta10?) were yours. Since before it was deleted I forwarded that account and another guy, /u/exit_sandman a few months ago to get you guys flaired on /r/theredpill. I thought the sub had something to gain by giving you guys visibility and incentive to post, especially with the population booming. Although you're both liked, the reply was basically "it'll happen as they post on the …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 05:24 PM
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I predict replies here might consist of the common hypocrisy charge. "But TRP doesn't empathize with women either!" This is because TRP aims to differ from BP. So while everywhere else, you may have people kowtowing to the distresses of women, real and imagined, while uniformly disparaging men who display weakness(male issues and sensibilities in general), TRP takes an unashamedly selfish position in comparison. And while TRP expends no sympathy for females, its very reason for existing(accordin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 04:45 PM
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I'm in ChemE(plant design) and I live in Hong Kong. So, a lot. But if that's sarcasm for being self-flattering, I edited it out. All I'm saying is its really not as big a deal as people make it out to be. If not sarcasm, save your money and spend it on a good gym/wardrobe/derm/speech therapist or whatever he needs to work on his most pressing bottleneck. Internalize theory and then pick the EC who's flavour of redpill he agrees with the most, for questions. A lot of people PM us, and asktrp is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 01:30 PM
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that's you having a bunch of ONS :S You might not have read my post. See the part where I mentioned "2nd and 3rd dates". And it does become a rotation, simply because while this much is very possible, threesomes are decidedly less so. I'm currently in a stable LTR for the last 16 months, but before this I've held a max of 2-3 serious plates. I also held a job. Talking to girls is just like socializing anywhere else, only with the added twist that both of your hindbrains are subconsciously sizing…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 01:06 PM
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I'm imagining the women would each want sex every night of the week I wag tail. Tail doesn't wag me. Or if in fact you're talking about women who are having sex with lots of different men, you're hardly plate-spinning. Then and only then can I understand it, because then she has lots of places to get nookie and isn't waiting on one man. The man is just one of her pieces of tail and she is just one of his. Whatever rationalization helps you sleep at night. To maintain your good girl caricature of…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 12:37 PM
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That most men (the same men who lack options in the first place) nevertheless feel compelled to constantly reassure their partners of their unwavering love and devotion is another sign of the disconnect between the general idea of the dating scene and its reality. This is a really interesting point. But it has an interesting parallel too: women only respond with displays of unwavering love and devotion to you when you don't exactly value them that much. I guess dread works both ways. Scarcity cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:07 AM
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I don't know a single woman who does this.. is this common? :S Sounds like a bad time dating a girl like that. To add what others have said about women's inherent SMV: Dread game is literally the theoretical opposite to a woman's dread; gatekeeper of sex. i.e. Whenever she's pissed at you or unhappy, sex stops. you're driven to fix it. In the same way, when you're unsatisfied or nagged or unhappy(or sex stops), you don't owe her your attention or affections. Just like she doesn't owe you sex. Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:01 AM
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I'm spinning 4 plates and advancing in my career. Life is great! (Yet I have time to sit on TRP giving long field reports and endless long responses to the field reports/posts of others) :/ Its really not that hard you know. I know a lot of people hold up having women to be medals of honour, but its really not nearly as big a deal as people make out to be. Talking to women is like talking to anyone else, only easier cause people expect you to be perfect even less. The fear goes away after the sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 09:37 AM
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I lost a piece of my rp soul that night, but it was all for selfish and evil reasons, so I think I'm still in the clear.\n\n In the end, that's all that matters. Plus, I'd say you set an example for the people who claim to be feminist on what feminism should be. I don't think that's Anti-RP at all. Helps RP with the misogyny charges at least. ;) I've got a feminist story myself actually. My company sometimes does social responsibility initiatives, especially in places we run big or long-term ope…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 06:35 PM
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If I call for a similar broadening of imagination to understand the meaning of terms even when they have much better track record of having a non-literal meaning (AWALT), I'm pretty much told I'm shifting goal posts. This accusation does not go away no matter how many citations from years back I can make. I'm not entirely sure non-literal meanings are allowed. In any case, for your new re-interpretation, there are still two issues: 1) Everyone is themselves. Even under the most radical metamorph…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 04:40 PM
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Oh fuck that. That is a blatant re-imagining of what he said. And we already had a thread over this, like 2 seconds in the search: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2bf1h8/controversial_opinions_of_uredpillschool_trp_head/cj4szws
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 04:10 PM
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really glad to see answers like this catching on :) Didn't notice someone else said the same thing. Agree 100%. never fight if you don't have to. dating and pickup should be fun above all. even if she's not for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 03:56 PM
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Yeah, I'm gonna use my ESL card on this one. what does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 10:30 AM
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Completely disagree. You don't even define what "this stuff" even is yet you're making claims on the mean of the bell curve. So something explicitly other than what the red pill advises is what is going to work on the majority? Alright, then. Outline what it is. As it is, this is a cookie cutter dismissal devoid of any reasoning. Its just meant to feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 09:03 AM
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if you truly think AWALT, take a good look at who is present in each of these interactions...and consistently leads to the same outcome :) I mean, there's like quarter to like half a million of us. And the tropes in AWALT are nothing new. The stereotypes are all well-known and common to male experience with women, cross-culturally, and in all age-groups. Its just recently become taboo to say these things in a sexist manner. Or otherwise generalize or judge women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 07:31 AM
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AWALT cannot be treated like a sentence. AWALT is a word in its own right. A chant even. With a history and meaning beyond the literal surface. In fact, AWALT has multiple meanings, but if you're looking for a tl;dr than you should know above all, AWALT is defiance. I'm not being edgy. We may be used to this stuff on TRP and PPD, but outside of here, AWALT is extreme and unacceptable. And even deeply hurtful. Lets start with history(boo). See, way back when redpill authors were just starting out…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 07:17 AM
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Nah. There were people talking about awalt years ago, including people like Rollo. "The exceptions don't matter" "it may as well be AWALT" "AWALT is the only sensible thing to assume". https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1wig8r/does_it_even_matter_if_nawalt/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2b141v/understanding_nawalt/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1l72o4/nawalt/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2unjlc/special_snowflakes/ https://www.reddit.com/r/T…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 06:29 AM
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I think in the current atmosphere of hyper-political correctness, some guys are just pissed they're excluded from the protection. And even then, this subset of MRAs is pitifully small, highly marginalized and subject to even more bashing in response to protests. The mainstream male really doesn't care. One of the most popular and valid things on the MRA sub, for example, is simply gender-flipping things feminists say or putting the word "Jew" in instead of "men". One can easily imagine how the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 05:56 AM
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they lose their minds. See, this is the part where you're off. Few really care. If you're even slightly on the mark, many'd agree with you. They did for most of history. Because they recognize how generalizations are useful. Women, though...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 05:20 AM
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This was the reasoning behind AWALT since forever. Women are masters of power-talk. They generalize and exclude and stigmatize just as much as the red pill does. They just know how to do it without pissing anyone off. From betas, to low-smv men, to rapists, to play-boys. The pitfalls of the market they instinctively know. AMALT can exist no matter how politically correct the discourse is. There is no such thing as "men are wonderful". Men are always loved pragmatically. In contrast, women by def…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 01:17 PM
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PUArtistry (various) Plate-game Power-talk 48 Laws of Power Briffault's Law Discussions of masculinity(along with a male space to do it in) Power dynamics in relationships (including the effects of various factors e.g. threat-point) Pragmatic view on the value of women Anti-feminism "Treating women like children" Discussion of foreign sexual markets, and realistic consideration of taboo subjects as factors (i.e. race, culture, status, age, etc) Online Dating Game Lots of interesting and insightf…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 08:56 AM
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sigh. The Red Pill sidebar also says women are literally children. No one is bending any rules. No body is backtracking from anything. Everything I've said is reasonable and plain, and wholly compatible with what you're claiming we say if you apply the slightest bit of reading comprehension, and scale back the absolutism. RPS pretty much went hoarse telling people to learn to fucking critically examine and read. Basically, there are two possibilities for the conversation. Either we have a conver…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 12:23 PM
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had the best times of my life with british tourists. kinda cunty tho
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 11:29 AM
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Like u/m_rafay said: be worth keeping Ironic that he's getting downvoted too considering everyone saying they agree with him. Western women getting defensive?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 12:59 AM
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I'm sorry but this is a deeply blue platitude that's just tired and bad advice in general. The same applied to a woman would not be tolerable, why for a man? I made a comment below about a very relevant concept from Greene's 48 laws of power. Basically, it goes "Never rely on people's gratitude, loyalty or mercy. Only appeal to their self-interests". Like m_rafay succintly put below, this means find out what makes you desirable, and constantly be vigilant about acquiring and maintaining that. Co…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 12:10 AM
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Male space =/= sitting around a table with your daughter present.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 12:04 AM
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Nobody is loyal unconditionally. Its just easier to give men instinctual reasons to want to stay, than it is to give a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 11:55 PM
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The question posed by the OP is to an extent, the exact same conundrum men face and turn to TRP for. "Be worth keeping" would be pretty standard RP advice for LTRs. But how exactly is this done, you ask? Well, you start by realizing a relationship is a fundamentally irrational thing. You only do it because your feelings tell you to. By far the most effective way to keep a relationship alive, then, is to keep those instinctual reasons to be with each other alive. If you snap out of it, its kinda …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 10:40 PM
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I remember an ex of mine asked me once why I even talked to a good male friend of mine if I hated him so much. I asked her what made her think I hated him. She said I sweared or complained about him a lot. And when I was around him, I seemed to always be slightly pissed off, and even afterward. I came back more distant and troubled. The truth was, I loved this friend more than I did her. What was happening is I didn't monitor myself around him. I didn't need to. I had an aversion to talking abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 03:40 PM
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This reminds me of a great initiation tactic my ex used to do time to time. If I was ignoring her advances while reading something, she would put her panties in the book and then slam it shut. And then practically jump on me. To me, that was incredibly sexy. I've always wondered if there was a way to do something like that as a guy.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/15 09:56 AM
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I personally try to make it fun in some way for the girl, and we also happen to fuck. You might wanna try it. Make her enjoy your company, laugh a bit with her. Don't just fuck her and leave. As /u/illimitableman put it: "Always leave them better than you found them". This is succint and excellent advice.
/r/askTRP07/02/15 08:12 AM
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If you're bluepill, you'd be surprised how easy it is to tell the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 08:06 AM
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I'm just gonna leave aside the rambling: Your posting history is full of gossip and circlejerking, and the studies you posted support the point they're meant to disprove. Stop wasting my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 07:34 AM
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♂ This is for your OP. It was an intelligent and... innovative breakdown of the situation. Beats the pants off /r/relationships diagnosis too. Have some visibility, and keep it up.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/15 06:29 AM
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why. you're being pretty vague.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 03:54 PM
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But why not? Greed and power is the greatest "justification" there is. I want it, and if I can take it, its mine. This is a universal as far as I know. Society gives us some rules for mutually advantageous cooperation and consequences for disobeying but if you can take from both coffers, all the better for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 03:03 PM
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Likewise, somebody who is secure in themselves is not going to ask for life advice from strangers on the internet, and somebody who is truly looking for advice about how to contend with reality in the context of sex and relationships is going to independently read peer-reviewed, experimental (or quasi-experimental) scientific research on sex and relationships lol? Because if there's anyone to learn from about how to form or manage relationships, something notoriously hard to study, its scientist…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 10:30 AM
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... :/ Skratt, I thought you told him what you said you were gonna say. I even wrote up the comment thinking he rejected you. As it is, Skratt, you're friendzoning yourself. You're literally being a friend and then withdrawing when you get insecure. Just communicate. Say "I Like You". Explicitly. And no more of those "I don't know what to say" excuses. Believe it or not, being shy while doing it is actually pretty adorable. Even if you don't know everything you need to say, you don't need to: Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 11:54 PM
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Eh, that happens time to time. Think of it this way: You told him one thing about yourself (you were interested in him). He, in turn, told you everything about himself. What's important to realize from the whole exercise is that there really isn't any consequence to failure. Pre and post approach, nothing really changed :) But you did muster up the courage to do something brave. You learned a bit about yourself, and you laid the foundation for future success. In dating and beyond. That's commend…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 11:03 PM
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I respectfully disagree. I actually believe society is immensely resilient to change, especially with technology having proven it time and time again. Change is inevitable. Moreover, I have no loyalties or special affinity to any past or future social structure. I just want mine. From that perspective, its easy to see how I simply see no point in your musings about what could be, or how we can all work together to make it that way. RP accepts widespread social change, but it doesn't seek to get …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 08:58 PM
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I used to believe the same about women. Sadly for me it was true. How'd you become disillusioned btw?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 08:55 PM
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Hey, I remember prodding you to ask out that boy you complained about being shy with that one time. Did you girl up and do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 08:53 PM
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Maybe you want a mate who is similar to you because you look forward to a friend and a lifelong companion. Or maybe you have insecurities(don't worry, we all have them!) that you couldn't measure up if they were too different. Or maybe you're naturally a less sexual, and more romantically focused person. Who knows. Though I personally say don't try to understand it. I am attracted to breasts. I don't really bother understanding that either. Desire is desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 08:51 PM
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yey low digit ratio
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 08:21 PM
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I'm surprised you thought they weren't. When the stakes are big, people always want to win. They only respect the rules because they have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 05:43 PM
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I got a chuckle out of this ending up on /r/bestof, and sure enough, the commenters there were neutral and shot it down quite fast. Here's a quote from a comment there by /u/WTFwhatthehell >The catch is that very few couples go as far as challenging for custody through the court system, the majority of the time the two parents agree out of court and essentially have the courts rubber stamp their agreement My only problem with that is that many of the arguments are akin to similar ones saying tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 07:55 AM
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(hired Facebook stalkers/agitators, psychologically breaking down women on the stand in court via asking impossible questions that sound exactly like SHIT TESTS) You've made me curious. Can you go into these in detail?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 07:38 AM
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If you ask the average Red Piller, they would likely say that an ideal society would adhere to traditional gender roles. I'm pretty average and I think I speak for all of us when I say I would love to stay home. I love kids, cooking, and free-time. Only problem is, outside of feminist fantasies, women do not go for men who do this. And if they do, they are quicker to leave men who do this. Women would not date me if I couldn't say I have a career. This is a fact about Chinese culture even you mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 07:35 AM
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Animus Vox is now "our song".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 06:51 AM
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Its really telling you think you need to be a perceptive tricky genius to do anything. In fact, I'm pretty well traveled and I've done the same thing with girls in Pakistan. I work there for months at a time. What now?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 04:38 PM
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I've read a lot of trp. I call bullshit. As I recall you write stuff like this regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 01:17 PM
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All these "shoulds". You lost me at your title, OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 01:15 PM
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Nah, a slut isn't irreconcilable. Its just something about her I consider that I'd definitely like to know before deciding if I want her in my life as more than a random or friend. I actually don't stress asking her at all. In fact, I'd be naive to. I dated women most frequently in Hong Kong, Malaysia and to a smaller extent, South China(various). A bit more than half were natives, and the culture makes it so that woman generally doesn't want to be seen as slutty. They expect men here care a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 10:33 AM
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I don't think that's what he meant by realpolitik. http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-realpolitik.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 09:40 AM
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For your argument of systemic error being accounted for, please scroll down in my original link to my reply to ILU2. As for post-script; Men lie less. Significantly less. For an example of the typical result of this difference, the fake-lie-detector study where women's answer's went from 2.6 to 4.4? Men's went from 4.0 to 3.7.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 07:12 AM
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What a novel shit-flinging concept. On the one hand, people heap spite and shit into an "image" of what they desperately hate and on the other, people naively arrive with their unassuming "this is me" posts, to display right next to it. Its not hard to see how that plays out. And in who's favour. If there's any point to this post, rather than an outlet for high school girls to gossip, than /u/whisper made a very good post that addresses it: > it doesn't prove a lot of things, but it would prove …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 08:48 PM
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The link you posted showed that men's answers to "Number of sexual partners" went from 3.7(face to face) to 4.2 (anonymous survey) to 4.0(pipeline a.k.a. fake lie detector). Women's answers for number of sexual partners went from 2.4 to to 3.7 to 4.4. So under Fisher's methodology, women's answers went from being half of men's to about equal. While men's didn't really change that much. Kinda telling. Surveys are notorious for social desirability bias to play out. A slight phrasing in the questio…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 06:58 PM
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While you and me agree here, its worth noting what we have is a very simple marital sexual satisfaction survey. Not even a general satisfaction survey. Its not exactly time to get too proud of ourselves. As I remember from other discussions, and even this thread(see luxos' reply), the data supporting the idea that premarital promiscuity in men leads to equally worse results in relationships is neither as unanimous nor as comprehensive when compared to the idea the same happens with women. Chalk …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 03:00 PM
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The idea that women lie about these things is not an anecdote.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 10:10 AM
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Eh, who wants to be unhappy and who wants to be in a relationship with someone who is unhappy with it? Unhappiness is very relevant even without divorce. Not really. And its marital sexual happiness, not overall happiness. Lots of men operate in sexually unfulfilling marriages fine. Maybe they're rating variety of sex, or the dopamine rush of validation from women compared to their wife. There's less thrill when she's your S/O. In fact, I'd answer the same too, but that doesn't mean my relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 09:17 AM
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You should never go clubbing if you don't enjoy it. I honestly detest clubs and I do fine. Every girl I've ever picked up I've gotten to know through friends, or while doing something innocuous, like walking to work. IMHO, as a natural introvert, night game is absolutely a waste of time and energy, and while you get to sex quicker, its shallower and lower ROI over time. Day game is free and plentiful. All it requires is an ability to socialize. And its much more fun too. Much more opportunity to…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 08:04 PM
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2 Things. First, men being unhappy doesn't end relationships. Women being unhappy does. When I posted the studies I did, I made sure to include quantifiable, observable real-world differences, rather than subjective data. That means STD rates, divorce differences(which are dramatic), infidelity, etc in addition to stuff like depression rates and marital happiness reports. Second, if we assume women are more susceptible to social desirability bias, because of incentives like slut-shaming and rati…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 07:22 PM
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I already know I'm unfit for marriage. I don't need a study for that. I provided the studies I did so we could be humble together.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 06:41 PM
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I understand what you're saying but still... equating TRP to "chicks dig jerks" or similar (like "just lift and be confident brah") is really kind of pushing it. I mean, I could describe how to be a salesman as "be convincing" too. That doesn't stand-in for a insightful discussion on customer base and a model of the market. Along with lots of really good innovative ideas. Its sometimes boring we only give outrage inducing stuff like dread any importance here. As if that's anywhere near the end o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 10:45 AM
1

Numbers game. It is feasible. Not even particularly hard actually or requires any sort of stud status.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 10:06 AM
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All this time, the TRP has been unfairly receiving the credit for saying "women are children". That honour belongs to England. [I acknowledge this was a misunderstanding, but eh, I'mma stick to my statement]
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 09:33 AM
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The only right answer. TRP represents a statistically insignificant population. Most of the time, people just use it as a boogeyman to enhance their story and make it more attention-grabbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 08:06 AM
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The mods and most old ECs stay out of compassion, you know. We want to help. Its not impossible, especially if given your own background.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 04:49 AM
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Its actually really hard and time-consuming to actually get decent money to date-coach or wing-man. You can do it informally as bets but it honestly requires quitting your day-job before you find half enough clients or produce enough content to be worthwhile. RSD and simple pickup guys are rich and make it look easy but they have a whole company. Its much harder to do it on your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 04:47 AM
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Its a shame your replies are deleted. Because that was grade-A burn considering he came to pass off a rape charge on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 03:45 AM
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i used to attention whore on /int/ a lot. one of them linked my blog calling me a faggot and I've had a second home there ever since.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 07:12 PM
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I was always like this. I just held myself back from the aggressive, dominant side of myself in an effort to be better liked. Predictably, it failed, and my love life was a mess. TRP(which wasn't called TRP at the time) was just something that helped me hone and refine my expression of my own personality. It was liberating. Plus, pick-up artistry is tremendous fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 07:06 PM
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here's the thing; most women are easy to boss around. I mean, really really easy. especially if they have no reason to doubt your frame. If the reality you've constructed is that you are "that type of guy" instead of just a beta acting tough. Real masculine figures inspire leadership, and that's what RP goes for. And if they like you, they don't even think that much of it. Its not that much of a stretch into fantasy territory that they do things for you. Say, you bring her into your apartment, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 12:50 PM
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The physical abuse part just seems to start to reach. How exactly did he learn that here? You can literally get banned on TRP for advocating physical abuse. /r/TheRedPill/comments/2mtdgf/psa_2_do_not_post_shit_about_hitting_women_ever/
/r/TheRedPill29/01/15 12:23 PM
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Why are we taking this woman's one-sided exposition to be an accurate account of their relationship? I'm not saying she's lying, but I'm gonna take your very self-flattering story with a grain of salt, thank you very much. There's a clear conflict of interest here and its a huge stretch to imagine a woman will completely ignore that and tell the honest truth objectively, despite all incentives to hamster away any role of hers in this. If the other guy actually browses TRP, I personally invite hi…
/r/TheRedPill29/01/15 12:19 PM
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Not really. NAWALT is a really common BP phrase. Representing a failure to understand generalizations. AWALT is the counter to those trolls. It is not just the standard "agree and amplify", its the result of honest thinking about what BPers constantly repeated. We realized that the exceptions are so few that they don't matter. Either that, or that the risk is high enough that assuming NAWALT is the only logical outcome. In either case, the term AWALT evolved. Its not that we originally made it. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 10:25 AM
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It really is a waste of time to debate AWALT because its a generalization and you don't get that. By debating it, you really are encouraging more foolishness. Because you're being dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 08:09 AM
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No, sorry. I'm pretty sure women know what they find physically attractive. You know what, since you don't seem to be getting the point, I'll be blunt: It doesn't fucking matter what you're "pretty sure" of. Not even if the objective was specifically attracting YOU, which it isn't. All those woman sarcastically repeating "RP knows best ryt?", they really don't understand. We really don't care about your opinions. Your unabashed solipsism counts for shit in the real world. Somewhere you've never …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 07:58 AM
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They already know everything about women, and better than them, apparently. If replies like yours are any indication, we really do. And I'm talking about more than just anecdotal fallacy. Its the naive idea that ideals shape reality. That what people think and say stands in for how they will act in the real world. The reality is attraction is mutable, it depends greatly on context. And especially for women. A really great RP answer in BP words to the question of perfect partners I found on Quora…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 05:51 PM
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Would you agree that the concept of "hardcoded" you've established is arbitrary and is being applied to a vast variety of disparate things being grouped together when shouldn't? That, and the fact that if an animal and human of different species have similar methods of trait X, they inherited that "hardcoding" from a much older common ancestor(whatever species originated mammals for instance), but if they have different form of trait Y, then this evolved in much closer ancestors that may or not …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 03:54 PM
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Because you, being a woman, automatically assume most men are ugly. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 03:51 PM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 12:02 PM
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But fine, what about my Kinsey link? That's been debated and discarded long ago. See my other comment. In fact, that actually works in favour of RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 12:00 PM
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Edit 2: Oh! oh! and here's a link to the Kinsey Institute saying that 56% (most of them!) of men have had 5 or more sex partners, while only 30% of women have had 5 or more.[5] Which pretty clearly demonstrates that a small minority of women are slutting it up, not 80% of us. The funny story of women and surveys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 11:51 AM
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Maybe because Anger is the only emotion men are allowed to express? Good point
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 05:15 PM
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Why the hell would I accept something that is obviously just bullshit? Typical anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 05:14 PM
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So he screws around with other women as a masochistic exercise in blueballing?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 04:49 PM
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the parameters of "plate". Alright, seems simple enough. Plate is defined as: 1) A woman you are fucking(i.e. if you are not currently in a sexual relationship with her, she is no plate) and 2) A woman you are not exclusive with. There are more there depending on who you ask(she knows she is plate status/she is exclusive with you/a minimum of 2 women in plate-spinning), but these two are common to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 04:11 PM
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Are we arguing semantics here? like... just butchering terms pointlessly trying to be more politically acceptable... :/ Outside of swingers, plating women is a delicate process(hell, its just short of potentially lethal here in hong kong). The term plate comes from TRP's ideas on how to do it. Spinning plates is a delicate game of balance. in contrast, fucking around with guys is childsplay. It does itself. in any case, this discussion is pointless. i was just pointing out something amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 03:51 PM
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Right. She's the main plate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 02:44 PM
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Generally, orbiting objects do not touch what they're orbiting. They just keep falling and missing perpetually. hence the RP joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 02:41 PM
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That kinda makes misspearl by definition a plate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 02:18 PM
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are you guys open?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 01:49 PM
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Edit: I don't think I made this clear. I'm not saying men have no emotions, I'm saying that since trp claims men are more logical, wouldn't the things they read on trp just instantly seem logical to them rendering a phase of anger illogical? People with EC flairs often get PMed for advice by people who like our particular flavour of Redpill. About 2 weeks ago, I got a long confession(roughly a full page long) from a guy recalling his experiences with this one girl he loved over the course of 8 y…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 09:51 AM
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Say, guy 1 went AFC his whole life. Married post-wall, got divorced, reads RP... and suddenly he knows what he did wrong. The rules of the game were ethereal unknowable things. He was playing off luck and what he was told. And now he feels like a total fool. Equals anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 09:37 AM
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Sure. They're doing it with a goal in mind though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 07:45 PM
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~_^ lol wat
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 07:41 PM
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Its less "leave him alone" and more "don't nag him". I give advice to my girlfriend's friends sometimes because they think I'm wise saying pithy RP things... But I suppose I can't do that with you... So instead, short of red, have the next best most accessible thing; "How to win friends and influence people" by Dale Carnegie. Read that and you'll come to get a good picture of how to go from "don't nag" beginner level to "approach people mindful of how they want to be approached" advanced stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 07:40 PM
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We don't ask people to convert. We do like the spotlight though. We court attention at all costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 07:21 PM
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The fact that you can't elaborate your claims is even more so. You made the claim. Justify it. Don't fish for TBP validation. If I have a plate, and she does shit for me. And I accept it, and encourage it. Why is this freely given service "bent to my will"(and other assortment of ugly words) anymore than what you get from your wife. In what way is her choice more invalid than your own woman's?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 06:06 PM
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There is no difference. Its you guys who make up some imaginary super-powers where we devil women into losing their agency. We form just as functional dynamics as you do, just as fairly as you do. The means have nothing to do with it. And I accomplished her doing all the chores long ago, btw. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 05:29 PM
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By this logic, if I convince my girlfriend to be my doormat, TBP should theoretically stop bitching. But they don't. And in any case, this is just a cookie cutter non-answer you guys are repeating. i.e. A platitude. We know there is no absolute answer, but that doesn't mean responses to a question can't be more concrete or illustrative. Would you answer an exam question with a "clever" answer like this? For example, RP LTR game would focus on traditional distribution of labour but with a focus o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 03:48 PM
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Why not post on TRP to help the newbies though? I personally don't enjoy talking to that crowd excessively either but I also don't make it a habit to laugh at them. They're struggling in their own way. What else can they do? What else would/could you have them do? I wrote a post on this a while back, I think. here And if you do have ideas for how to improve the SL ratio, then go ahead and apply it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 03:18 PM
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They only do this when there's a huge influx of BPers on TRP posts. They'll find the source thread that's sending through traffic and ban the OP to discourage further participation, plus anyone else rabble-rousing/encouraging crossing over.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 03:09 PM
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If you send hundreds of BPers in one go onto TRP, the amount of shitposts and reports will be picked up by mods. They'll find the post in question on TBP, either by going on the sub or following the post history of shitposters, and ban the people who send TBP traffic our way. Its not a long process.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 03:07 PM
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Time to pack it up then. Make a thread about this compelling argument of yours. I do believe we have a RP killer here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 09:52 PM
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Don't let what I'm about to say change anything about how you post(because honestly its endearing) but for all your impressive quoting of /u/IllimitableMan and TRP, its a waste you chose this as your reply when he actually responded. This could've been a good exchange. I don't think you can get away with saying "women are less rational" without some sort of evidence backing it up. Never mind the totally dehumanizing aspect of the whole thing. See, he addressed this. We can and we do get away wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 09:48 PM
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Sigh. You're equating completely different things. Nobody has incentive to lie there. There's nothing to be ashamed of. There are no experiences to estimate from memory(not to mention, a category of experiences most people consider complicated and hard to describe anyway). People are simply asked which party they like the most, and they pick one. Simple. Hell, often there's a political viewset to push, and your team to support, which people are sort of passionate about doing. what percent of red…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 08:01 PM
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so let's say 4.4. is accurate Why? throwing out, dismissing data that is 77% accurate is ridiculous. Combine that with men's tendency to over report as well: Men report upto to 11% inaccurate results(men tend to over-represent their sexual exploits), compared to ~20% misreporting by women(under-representing sexual exploits). Add in the inherent problems with sex studies. (such as the fact that even PIV sex is objectively not reported as sex 100% of the time) Then consider the fact that all sorts…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 05:01 PM
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Now even I have a hipster superiority complex time to time when I see first worlders railing on about the problems in their bubble. But this is a kinda BP-tactics type post; i.e. pedantry. What you said tangentially attacks the OP's point through the language he used but it doesn't affect or relate to OP's point at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 04:46 PM
1

The article sh1v posted explained the answers to all your questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 04:15 PM
1

Misspearl, your femininity is turning me on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 04:10 PM
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Its not us assuming that women lie. Women actually do lie about this, far more than men. wiki social desirability bias too, for a partial explanation of why.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 04:08 PM
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Agreed. I often laugh at the things BPers say.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 03:48 PM
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Sometimes(like 10% of the time), they are not entirely wrong. Even more occasionally, they even end up being right. Btw, some of us do disagree that the RP should be unapproachable. Or a secret club everywhere. We think TRP is objectively truer than most other ideologies. The abrasiveness protects TRP as a sub but is unnecessary to the actual information. This forum gives me an opportunity to express TRP in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 03:46 PM
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The struggle is real. David Deida is an author that the TRP sort of likes. He addresses this issue at length in his book "The Way of the Superior Man"(don't worry, the title is only obnoxious at first glance and gets less so once you understand what he means... much like all good red pill). Marriage and sex and relationships are very irrational things. You only really do them to satisfy your feelings and need for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 03:41 PM
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I think they apply to feminine women mostly. Think of any feminine woman in your life and try and pretend she doesn't do that. I honestly can't think of one. In contrast, less feminine women tend to be more mature. Feminine men follow the same pattern. Flamboyantly gay guys come to mind most of all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 08:02 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_47A9Z28U3I You can do anything with confidence. Never forget that PUArtistry is supposed to be fun. With a :)
/r/TheRedPill21/01/15 08:24 PM
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I didn't. I was never attached to the matrix. I always knew something was up. So I was more feeling more liberated than angry. I'm sure you do as well. Focus on that. Possibilities. The future.
/r/askTRP21/01/15 07:17 PM
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You don't include Indian 9 year olds and /u/bluepillrandom's grandma in your discussions of sexual strategy? I am honestly disappoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 06:07 PM
1

I like you :) You're blue but you don't have any of the characteristics of blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 05:42 PM
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:) How I feel about 99% of TBP too, tbh. Its just that I didn't expect a debate. How desperate do you have to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 12:12 PM
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The premise of your argument is that RP claims to call these things by their real names but that in fact TRP does not. What you're ignoring is that their "real names" are not set things either. There are no agreed upon words for this trend. People with different biases refer to them as they view it. Usually the tone of these terms reflect the cultural viewset on how acceptable they are. "Finding yourself" or "experimenting sexually" or "looking for the one" are all names that would describe the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 09:18 AM
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Its a satire of "A modest Proposal" by Jonathan Swift. I did not expect to see a debate over this stuff. You BPers will argue anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 09:00 AM
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Marital contract is not neccessary for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 06:24 AM
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Calm down, its satire. Jonathan swift.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 05:29 AM
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Same goes for TRP. Attitudes, not race, are discouraged. I've been posting openly as a native of Hong Kong/China for years on TRP and other manosphere sites. There are tons of other guys on TRP from all over the world, from Malaysia to Korea and Japan to Russia. Hell, Roosh is Iranian and a lot of our ECs are from Asia as well. /u/drrrrrr is one of the best known ECs there and he's Indian. We've got a lot of international people on TRP. So much so, TRP even established /r/AsianMasculinity and /r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 05:14 AM
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This post touches on exactly what I've been saying for the past few months; people's estimations of themselves don't match with reality. But instead of disregarding that, they used speed dating to get people's estimations of themselves more in line with reality. So they match women with guys... and then asked them what they liked in the guy. What woman in her right mind would say "I Liked His Money And Status"? The author literally contradicts the unlikely outcome(i.e. she'd be truthful) in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 04:52 AM
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This is an absolutely ridiculous post. I mean..... why would you want to have sex with a feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 05:27 PM
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Ask out a random on the way home from your gym or work place and start the text game. Maybe you can eat , sleep and lay on the couch with her. You don't need to party to get girls. I'm a natural introvert and hardly partied in my life. I get plenty elsewhere.
/r/TheRedPill18/01/15 03:51 PM
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How does your girlfriend view the idea that you love all your previous girlfriends? She adopts the blue pill stance I guess; she doesn't ask. I've been with her 16 months, and the most I've told her is how many and a few inconsequential details here and there. I do love her the most though. And I've been with her longest. With no plans to stop. And do you feel any need to like, do things for her? Or do her feelings matter a lot to you? Yes. and yes. How do you feel about TRP's notions of love? M…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 03:47 PM
2

Man desires sex. He works to maximize what makes him desirable as a mate; rich, confident, high-status. Even if indirectly, society guides him into this as what he needs to be to mate. He gets a wife. He works hard for his family, producing value. And because he has a family, he's willing to fight to defend it. The community that encourages this model(giving each beta a shot at wife via working hard); has lots of loyal home-owners, job-workers, and soldiers. Women are the commodity that drive mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 03:16 PM
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You're right. I'm sleepy and I skimmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 02:46 PM
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I've heard a few times said about me that if you love everyone, you don't really love anyone. I don't understand that. I don't understand the concept of exclusive or committed love. So when I then ask people to define what love is, or what they're talking about feels like, they say if you've never felt it, you've probably never been in it. So I've never been in love. When people talk about love, even my girlfriend, I feel left out. I'm not even a complete psychopath; I like people. Everyone. I c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 01:39 PM
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But society already does assume that, to a degree. Most women assume most of the time, DEFACTO, if not in explicit terms that an unvetted man presents a clear and credible danger to them if they're present alone and unsupervised with them. that men are not interested in anything except sex and you have to make them wait/prove otherwise. Deny the above if you can. but this anecdote of yours carries enormous weight and if said more diplomatically could probably be a leaflet. minus the part about d…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 12:10 PM
1

I think a con of being a woman is not being able to read past the cons on a list of your pros and cons.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 10:21 AM
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lol, i'm redpill and took part in several women's rights and welfare initiatives for my company in pakistan. what now? do i still support it tangentially?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 09:55 AM
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Nah, women tend to be unhinged emotionally. Men tend to control their expression of it much better. Anecdotes convey important generalizations, which are generally understood and common to other people's experiences. Otherwise people wouldn't voice them in order to convey a larger point. At some point, you have to use anecdotes. Not everything is proven or provable in a study.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 09:25 AM
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Confidence is the belief you are capable, worthwhile and adequate. And like any other belief, its most apparent from your willingness to test it. Usually this willingness stems from your own triumphs, either at the activity, or at things related to it. So what you said is true enough, but a man who's finished killing it on the piano on-stage, or having sold a $400 art commission, or accomplishing a really noteworthy feat at his work, is going to go through life with that invisible badge on him. …
/r/TheRedPill18/01/15 06:52 AM
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how so ok, maybe the last one. but i was making a joke being pedantic. cmon. you guys love those
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 11:01 PM
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Quality assessment from the both of you. Enjoyed reading this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 08:01 PM
1

Pretty simple-minded, solipsistic reasoning if you ask me. One women might be provided for by all those relations you mention. But if this becomes a trend, this net goes away fast. Its unsustainable, and against the interests of males(the patriarchs) to nurture. Likely, even with one woman, social expectation means she must perform her duties. And if she can't, she's treated just as any woman is in a proper self-respecting patriarchy. If she's supported by her family, she's resented and rejected…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 07:53 PM
1

Because having a man who is alive still can make for an emotionally and romantically alive marriage, something that women value. While men are driven much more by desire for physical intimacy. Men are also more likely to act on the inevitability of her death. While women can exist in the moment, so to speak, for however long he's alive. Tingles overcome any challenge, IMO, as long as they keep coming. Men in contrast are driven by the destination, not journey. Also, because leaving makes women f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 05:00 AM
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What constitutes a "landwhale"? Obese. Due to laziness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 04:51 AM
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Semantically speaking: Nobody loves unconditionally. Anyone who thinks unconditional love exists must love everyone. And if they try and revise it to a special state of affection that exists for one person only, they must still ask themselves how they come into it and fall out of it. The point is not that men love unconditionally, or that women don't. Its that they have different conditions for love. For a man, the woman is the prize. For a woman, what the man can do for her is the prize. The fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 04:44 AM
0

You should try to sometimes not do that passive-aggressive sarcasm, you know. This is the sentimentality; "They don't value it and thus they get incapable of it". Its just self-righteous pity. The most universal complaints among the red pill is actually that they wish they could believe in love, "find a unicorn", "that the BP view was not quite so silly", etc. They value it a lot. They just don't believe in your disney version of it. Where compatibility is "all that matters" as one guy put above…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 11:15 PM
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Spare me the sentimentality. I like the feeling. I just don't assign to it nostalgic, wide-eyed pseudo-deep soliloquies. IMO, its best to save OP-type stuff for when there's a girl listening. They like hearing alphas drone on about a sort of intimate "realization" that they have a beta side too. Then the girl and guy can both agree and build rapport and start the romantic journey of falling in love and stuff. This is pretty much the business model for love songs and chick flicks. I guarrantee th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 10:52 PM
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Sorry, I bookmarked this cause I was tired at the time and apparently, I uh never check my bookmarks. :/ anyways... threat of harm to yourself is uncertain/nonexistent cheating. cuckoldry. We already established shit was common. plus, with how much slutting around is viewed as a bad thing, and has been for a long time, we can assume its a massive loss in social capital to be seen with a slut, let alone marrying her. Women, like men, are often used as social proof, in marriage and otherwise, for …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 10:14 PM
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Its been discussed in RP plenty, IMO. The feeling of being in love, the mechanisms to it, advantages, disadvantages, replication as a sexual strategy, etc. Its just not something a lot of us put a lot of stock in, and thus don't bring it up. As for BP, they don't find much outrage value in anything beyond thoughts on "how women love". Thus, no discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 08:18 PM
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I will repeat his statement if it was unclear: If women never slept with assholes there would be no assholes. It is more or less literal and correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 07:39 PM
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Whereas here they'd ask you why you don't want to have children. lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 07:38 PM
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bad history? the war was a stalemate. Pakistan started with no stake in Kashmir(except a claim) and ended with militarily taking over a third of it. A defeat would've meant India took full control of the region and Pakistan and China would have no land border(and I'd be out of good contracts). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Pakistani_War_of_1947 the war in 1965 was another stalemate. the defeat was 1971. maybe you're thinking of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 10:50 AM
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(TLDR: CDC stats showing around 85% of women and 76% of men have reproduced by age 40) Genetic studies suggesting that people have twice as many unique female ancestors as male ancestors. And from that, an estimate by Baumeister that about 80% of women who ever lived reproduced, while around 40% of men did. And its a pretty interesting that more women than men reproduced here too. I would expect in a sexual market restricted to largely monogamy, and marked by widespread access to birth control a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 05:55 AM
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They are right about progressive-ism, but ignoring the larger issue. Asian males are perceived as less attractive and lower status. That much remains true, and is unaffected by politcal views. What political views do shape is how reliable a beta bucks they're perceived as. An Asian man with progressive ideals will make for a much better, more pliable, and less worrying choice for settling. He still won't get in on the carousal, but that's pretty how he gets laid in the end. Their strategy is to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 05:11 AM
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If someone believes I am fundamentally child-like, mercurial, illogical and inferior in any number of other ways, simply by virtue of being female, then they believe hateful and untrue things about me and it doesn't fucking matter if they can manage to be civil in the meantime. My point is it simply blows in the whole "we'd spot TRPs a mile away" circlejerk you've got going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 09:18 AM
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I earned my ban from TBP over this. I proved their mod a liar over their most self-righteous cause and sticky since ever. I only regret my english was worse then.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 06:47 AM
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I think neither side is unique in having biases. Undoubtedly, most BPers consider RPers to be "like that" too. And they certainly don't shy from showing it. There is an amusing undertone of revulsion and spite in practically every other comment. And what's more, they've taken quite a liking to TRP's own insulting-vocabulary. The word "Hamstering" for example, has caught on so much it makes me never want to use it again. I think whats more interesting here to me is how one side is evidently quite…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 06:44 AM
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I wish we did ♂ here. I would give you like 2 for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 04:18 AM
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it'd be legal. So I"m good.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 08:36 PM
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But I'd be gentle.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 08:34 PM
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Of course. "Rape her until she loves it" is practically my motto.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 08:21 PM
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So what? Machines can be manipulated. Re-purposed. Understood.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 07:56 PM
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Just a reminder that /u/sh1v advocates mandatory rape of wives. So do I.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 07:50 PM
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All sorts of BPers in askreddit and sex and relationships take the position on sluts that they're better at sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 03:00 PM
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We don't go around collecting links unlike yourselves. All sorts of BPers in askreddit and sex and relationships take the position on sluts that they're better at sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 02:59 PM
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assume emotional connection with your fucking 'bestie'. goddamn it. and you have no idea what he's expecting. Or being a woman, you hamster it away.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 02:29 AM
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nah. i actually can. i just don't wanna comb through my history. Here's one from an impressive topic by Spartacus. I'm sure there are more if you care to read through it. And lastly, even if I argue, I don't do it in the manner you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 01:08 AM
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I actually did. You're just illiterate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 01:00 AM
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so are you saying AWALT is a dumb idea because it does not apply to all circumstances? what matters, what works for most people, which dictates more what survives evolutionary or what occasionally works, as an exception to the rule? if you are going to argue that red pill is valid so long as it operates on a small scale, ok. that's a valid argument. is that your argument? Switching subjects? ^ red pill hamstering Have you even read your own link? i think red pill beliefs rely on ignorance at a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 12:57 AM
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You and I are not comparable, taibo. Nice subject switch though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 12:49 AM
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assume its the good kind of sweet, caring male bestie. jesus christ
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 12:10 AM
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if i only cared about what i thought, i wouldn't be on a messageboard. Do you actually care about what we think though? I mean, I've seen you be proven wrong all the time. But I've never seen you acknowledge it in the slightest. Instead, you engage in sophistry, subject switching, personal attacks and denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 12:04 AM
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posting links does not make you smart or right, taibo. in fact, it makes you look rather dumb when you can't articulate why you're posting a link, and especially because you have a history of spamming links and using them to advance a narrative they don't even talk about. as usual, very little of that is relevant; tit for tat does not posit morals, or pathology on the part of those who do not follow it. As an example, bittorrent. Most people receive files and never share back. They have no malic…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 11:56 PM
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I probably shouldn't (since you're you and already gave me the "narcissistic hamstering" labels to whatever i said before), but I'll reply anyway. yes, reciprocity is the foundation of healthy relationships. it's the foundation of social evolution. read up on tit for tat research. While I don't agree, its still ignoring the point; recieving something of value and enjoying it is not evil just because you did not or cannot return the favour. Normal people do it all the time. You grow up doing it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 11:10 PM
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Not really, they'd be more of an annoyance to non-narcissistic people. You really think most men would turn away a hot, adoring, enthusiastic lover? And most women a sweet, caring male bestie(or variant)? I think you are projecting because you would like it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthy_narcissism And I do like it. I never denied that. but I'm not really a narcissist either. By TRP, and most definitions and tests for dark triad, I'm actually below average for narcissism. Plus I really m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 11:04 PM
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^ narcissist hamstering I don't what I expected from you, taibo.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 10:15 PM
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When you reified that metaphor, I didn't expect you to use it as a lead up to agree with me. Pleasant surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 09:43 PM
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Unless there is an equal exchange, feeling good about receiving something is pathological? TV stars recieve attention all the time. They have millions of orbiters that they give back to no more than any plate-spinner or centre of gravity. Are they all narcissists?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 09:25 PM
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Narcissism is just normal traits(need for validation, feeling of importance) taken to extremes. Keeping sexual partners(plates) or beta orbiters is not inherently in and of itself proof of narcissism. I could pull any man on the street and offer him a girl that adores him and excepting trust issues with me, he'd take her. Similarly, most women love having casual male friends who provide them lots of perks and attention. Most women with sexual capital accumulate beta orbiters not out of malice or…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 09:16 PM
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You can either choose to explain it I already did explain it. In literally the preceding paragraph. They didn't care. And you not even after I had pointed out that I had explained it. Lets see if you'll write me another lecture or admit your mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 09:03 PM
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Sometimes I really wonder why we're even pretending this is a debate. Its just so fucking obvious this guy has never read more than a tweet's length of what he's criticizing yet we're supposed to take him seriously? We're supposed to explain the concept and then wait for his highness to give his renewed disagreement and debate that. 80% of the debate is just clarifying the concept. Either that, or you deal with the loaded question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 08:38 PM
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cool. the butthurt and spite seeps through the pores in your writing. be more subtle.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 08:24 PM
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I've read enough RP to imagine the reasoning- women crave money and status so they're whore This is as far as I read but before realizing the rest of the reply is more of the same misunderstood drivel I don't care to correct. No, that is not why they're "whores". Thanks for playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 08:21 PM
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I disagree about all women being whores etc Of course you would. That's what RP speak is intended for. You weren't interested in the reasoning that preceded it, so just think of that as the flipping off that you needed to leave outright. This is how RP speak works. but actually if the men who see women that way, and lie, spend and manipulate just to get sex are taken out of the dating pool Shallow thinking. They're not taken out of the dating pool at all. Again, this is a stupid line of conversa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 10:20 AM
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Yeah, but they're emotional in different ways. And vastly more contained when they are, no matter what it is. The problem is "some" doesn't quite generalize as well. It doesn't indicate that 80% of this group is like so. Its just an exercise in preserving that group's feelings and its self-image. Women are pretty much children in a lot of ways. I think a lot of RP stuff would come across less ridiculous if it was rephrased "some people," instead of "women." This is cute. Where did you get the im…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 10:10 AM
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Men want to fuck, true. But they also want to be desired... or indeed... admired. No one wants to shell out like 2500HKD a night for a whore who doesn't even like them, and who makes them feel small for having to resort to her. The sexual marketplace then becomes completely unnecessary because sex is available like a DVD is available on Amazon. Does the DVD or movie market cease to exist though? The SMP isn't an institution. Its a description of a phenomenon whereby the domain of sexual relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 09:34 AM
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A prostitute being legal doesn't eliminate the sexual marketplace. Her profession is based on it. Her job is simply leveraging market pressures and translating it into a flow of cold, hard cash. Legalization lets her become more common place. But that's it. The market pressures will always find a way to pay someone to release sex. A prostitute is just a vastly more expensive version of a normal woman, with a more straightforward means of payment, and thus less opportunity to fuck her over. Or as…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 09:00 AM
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There is not The Female Psyche any more than there is The Male Psyche. We are all individuals. But there is a male psyche. And being an individual is not a counterargument. Being an individual does not make you a different species. You have your own unique idiosyncrasies but behind it, you have the same mental makeup as anyone else on the straight. None of this shit is gender specific. There are guys who are emotional as shit. You all know them. There are girls who are logical and analytical as …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 08:50 AM
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We already did this topic, man. There's tons of reasons to avoid marriage, and most of the benefits suggested in studies like this are misleading or inconsequential. Or otherwise unrelated to having a marital contract, which is what RP takes issues with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 08:36 AM
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Not buying OP, but stilll... Why would you dump her? Why are those the only two choices? You're going to go around trying to find a woman who meets all your fantasies and cut loose any that isn't a perfect mary sue? Everyone has history. The important thing is to be encouraging, and sex-positive and non-judgmental so you can come to know these things sooner, and with less drama when you do. Then just plate her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 07:45 PM
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This applies from things like height to elbow length to intelligence to how far the choices they'll make will tend to stray from the group. Most women lie on the normal. One theory I think explains the advantage of this in a way that makes sense relies on a phenomenon thats common in quite a few species(it definitely is in humans for example) where the males tend to qualify to the females for access to sex, and the females usually are the choosers in sexual relationships. The females have some s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 11:23 PM
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Honestly, we just shun the judgment. When people say "misogyny" we say "thank you". You have whole threads full of RPers questioning that misogyny is even a thing and treating accusations of it as just a silly meaningless off-topic label that we don't care to address. What little peeps of acknowledgement, that included, we give to detractors pales in comparison to the acknowledgment we recieve back. I'm a simple reddit user. I get quite literal death threats/wishes and bizarre rants on the regul…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 11:13 PM
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i was promised nice details... with a smiley. the fuck is this it's because it takes awhile for me to trust someone (intimately). Oh yeah, i sympathize. I'm the same way. I call it AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 10:52 PM
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Exactly. Given assumptions to start with, you have a whole world ahead of you of how to proceed with calibration. And as evidenced by the thousands-times repeated "stages of TRP", this process of calibration and experience can often lead to entirely new worldviews, ones that are as varied as any BP line of development(which was m_rafay's original point I believe; that the manosphere is diverse). So the underlying assumptions that start off this process... that provide the initiative and possibil…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 10:41 PM
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To those who object to generalities made about humans... do you also object to the generalities about cats and dogs and penguins? or the generalizations about our own bodies and hormones? Do you petition the nature channel to explain itself? Or better yet, ask yourself why you apply the equivalent of AWALT yourself; AMALT. Maybe not in so many words as RP... but you apply AMALT all the time. In the same way, AWALT is not an absolute. It is a warning against the danger of naively assigning snowfl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 08:32 PM
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69... yeahhhhh. Would've been higher but I'm fortunately really fucking reliable in emergencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:33 PM
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A few threads ago BP unanimously claimed no one in the real world cares. :S
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 07:54 AM
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ok, what notch are you on?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 07:53 AM
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Excellent answer. I'd also add that you can't really game sluts... and also have a desire to marry or have an LTR of any sort with them. Its really hard. I don't think many men with options really want to marry sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 07:50 AM
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Here's a reply I posted earlier to show why. This guy puts the data together across multiple studies far better than I could. Combined sample sizes in the tens of thousands; 1 , 2, 3, 4 No, I won't tl;dr. This stuff is interesting. If you really need one though, http://freenortherner.com/2013/06/21/sexonomics-odds-of-divorce/ does a very provocative summary of this(http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr049.pdf). Other links if you like sifting through data on your own(distinct from above): http:…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 07:44 AM
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not really. we just throw it around as a word in discussion, which isn't even that often and is quite casual. we also resolve not to marry sluts. that's it. nice projection tho. 95% of posts about sluts are posted by BPers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 07:42 AM
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that was several years ago and I haven't been back since to check on it. back to the mystery machine, gang
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 10:17 PM
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Mate, that boyhood advice wasn't shitty or wrong at all. It just assumes your feelings have a good chance of getting accepted. Valuing someone is not really a virtue. Being of value and valuing someone is. Same to what Gridrexx said. She's right in that that's what you should do. Hell, that's what RP exhorts you to do(lying is just unnecessary for most ends and a sign of poor game. It also becomes unsustainable and poisons your social life). But the thing is... I didn't lie at all... I precisely…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 09:49 PM
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I just become very sex positive; very open-minded and accepting of her sexual past... or at least seem to, to encourage her to open up so I can disqualify them as LTR material. And also have sex easier and sooner. Its never failed me yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 07:10 AM
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You might inspire the ire of a scorned woman who will harass you across the 7 seas. i already have. it wasn't that bad. and this girl is still a very good friend of mine. which is like half of why i went to the trouble to not call her crazy. the other half being that... I didn't lie. I actually did tell her how I felt. Honestly, unashamedly and without any regard for anyone's reactions to it. I don't think anyone could fake that. Or at least I can't. She believed me because there I was sincere. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 06:57 AM
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I predict that 90% BP males reading this will devolve this thread into defensive insistence they don't care about your comments calling them beta or your labels... but that they are alpha too. On-topic: I like romance more than most women. I can't bear to be an asshole for long.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:51 PM
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how come? tl;dr; if you have a sexually active mind, you can report having thought about everything. to tick "yes, ive had one" doesn't say much about you sexually if you only did that once in 50 years alive. its what you fantasize about most often that's most telling. The fantasies that keep drawing you back in. like when i cite rape fantasies i make sure the source is taking about regular stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 06:04 PM
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kindly to what? approach to what?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 06:03 PM
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calculating, Machiavellian manipulators or irrational, child-minded dolts who go with their every emotional whim? Remove the dolts part and you've got just about everyone with an ego. The part where you take issue in other replies is that you don't think people can have long term goals if they're irrational. But long term goals can absolutely be irrational. As an example, take some RPer's obsession with spiritually getting back at the idea of the phantom women who rejected them and "made them mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 12:13 AM
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Assuming this is true, why should he be held accountable to all the sayings and ideas of other ECs? If you want to have a debate on the specific culture, conditions or types of social groups that black people grow up with, talk about it to the people who brought it up with you. There is no RP monolith where he's supposed to argue a line of conversation he's not even been involved in. The EC flair indicates this person is familiar with TRP theory, applies it and has contributed a bit to the sub. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 11:15 PM
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Shinies, I am a very sexually charged heterosexual man who has been humping things and beating off since I was 9 years old. And among my endless contemplations on the possible permutations of sex, you could obtain a yes to quite nearly every fantasy you could possibly think of. Including the ones in this survey's list(the animal was an animal-girl and I was attracted to girls around my own age as well as older woman as a kid. so yeah, to age 12 and below. not the urinating stuff tho. that's disg…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 07:50 PM
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Imagine you're divorced and I pull you down for an interview, and I ask you "was it worth it? Are you happier now?". Think of how hard you would have to try to give the answer "No." "I'm not happier." Not just to the interviewer(a potentially judgmental stranger), but to yourself... could you ever fucking say that to yourself? It'd be like stones in your heart... and about a person you had to convince yourself was bad for you too. Dale Carnegie, in his book, posited that people when criticized d…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 04:24 PM
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And those are literally the phenomena TRP uses to explain the behaviour, along with reasoning about the sexual marketplace, which studies seem to ignore because its not something you can study easily. You need two to tango. And the attitudes of both are going out of sync.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 02:06 PM
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It's not eager men throwing resources at indifferent women, nah, it mostly is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 01:10 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2e71ha/to_rpw_or_men_looking_for_an_rpw_how_much_are/cjwv79a very few men value a woman for her income, btw. im surprised that was one of your first guesses. and religion is a poor form of control. she's not subject to me in that case, she's subject to god. that just won't do. and complacency just doesnt make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 01:51 AM
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lol, this is the funny part. They really don't. Herbivore men and their equivalents are extraordinarily pro-woman, and go out of their way to say so and keep friendships with them strong and plentiful... and platonic. They mostly just reject sex and marriage. Which often results in the opposite of nice guy syndrome in the west. You get frustrated girls and unmarried women. They're the ones who complain! Just ask a female expat to the far east. Some scenarios have just never existed in your cultu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 09:20 PM
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Sexodus is just a brand name where the manosphere tries to take credit for the decline in marriage/LTR rates. Most of the millions of men in this trend won't really talk about it. They just quit. Even in Japan, the thing carried on for a long long time and acquired a culture before some guy published a paper on it, coining them "herbivore men". The same thing arguably exists across much of the Far East. And is soon to have many western states join it. Its not a happy place to be. And certainly n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 07:42 PM
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Exactly. Which is why women divorce more too, IMO. The feelings in the moment matter the most. This topic in particular brings up feelings of disdain because its men whining... and who likes to hear that? Its a sign of low SMV, something to despise. Whats more, these are men that are criticizing women, something that they really can't seem to ignore... no matter the source. And they're only feeling that and not seeing the big picture. Anyone who considers the market as a whole would know less co…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 07:34 PM
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but... they dont? Man, you know nothing about these guys(herbivores). They're actually content. Same goes for non-japanese men. The people complaining and improvising ways to appeal to the other gender are women mostly. Especially here in Hong Kong. The male-female ratio here is 863-1000. You can practically hear the wailing in the streets and magazines, and women's talk. As a foreigner, getting laid here is like automatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 07:27 PM
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To be fair, a lot of them are though. Many don't have any values or reason to drop the pursuit except that they can't. Say, marriage rate declines further and a few years from now you have a lot of women who's male counterparts of the same age have grown up and aren't into settling down. These women come knocking at the incels... what do you think is going to happen? They are just gonna get into oneitis and cave. Which is OK, I think, but adds to OP's point. I'd say 30-40% of MGTOW are incels li…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 07:21 PM
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Herbivore men in Japan, SK, HK, Hong Kong, China, Singapore, etc are a good example of sexodus. There's no misogyny. Most love and respect women and view them as equals. But platonically. What now?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 07:12 PM
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The herbivores in Japan obviously are no misogynists. They love women. But they completely withdraw from the sexual market, and definitely from marriage. They love women platonically. They respect them, but just remove the power of pussy from their minds. Move over to South Korea, and China and Taiwan, and Hong Kong and you see the same. No misogyny. Just platonic sexodus. What about now? Still whine-fest?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 07:10 PM
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Nah, man, plenty of men who identify as MGTOW are omegas. Like 30-40% at least. Whats actually significant is that marriage is going to decline. Casual sex will replace it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 07:08 PM
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But thousands of eligible men that women want to marry, that fuck them a few times, but whoops, never get around to marrying them? Millions. Marriage is dying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 07:06 PM
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You obviously have not talked to women in Hong Kong, or Japan or South Korea. The misery is mutual. edit; in china too, but that one's a bit complicated for a quick comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 06:52 PM
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https://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_posts/4936868-some-common-misconceptions-about-pederasty-in-ancient-greece Here you go. Also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty#Historical_synopsis And from the wiki article on pedophilia: The term pedophile is commonly used by the public to describe all child sexual abuse offenders.[6][10] This usage is considered problematic by researchers, because many child molesters do not have a strong sexual interest in prepubescent children, and are consequentl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 06:47 PM
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But the research hasn't proven to me that it's biological or that men simply aren't admitting it when asked. Whoops! Accidentally forgot to hyperlink the last article. Ctrl+f to appropriate place like I said before. A guy can admit it in his secret thoughts. And we all know how secret those secret thoughts stay. Or those ubiquitous gay sex apps under the cover of anonymity. That's about it. Besides, porn is ubiquitous and seldom talked about. I provided a male-female comparison for those too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 03:22 PM
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Why would the woman want casual hook ups when you Trpers shame her for wanting that? You are the ones who treat women like they should be gatekeepers for sex. Out of curiousity, does this really make sense to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 03:03 PM
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Here you are: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/sexual-fluidity-lisa-m-diamond/1111638685?ean=9780674032262&itm=1&usri=9780674032262 lots of things indicate this; women are bisexual at several times the rate of men, have far more bisexual or gay experiences when straight, can be turned on by other women by default(consciously the rate is around half, subconsciously or when measured by plethysmograph, the rate is significantly higher), and usually change sexualities to lesbian after living normally…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 02:22 PM
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The question. Well, you kinda did. But I'd like to hear you specifically answer it on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 01:55 PM
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To break down terms as such it PUA does seem autistic as hell. I'm genuinely sorry that folk resort to silly PUA things instead being able to naturally develop attractions. k
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 01:54 PM
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You didn't answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 01:04 PM
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Nope. The research disagrees with you. Women are far more fluid than men. Its one of the biggest differences in male-female sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 01:03 PM
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http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/sexual-fluidity-lisa-m-diamond/1111638685?ean=9780674032262&itm=1&usri=9780674032262 lots of things indicate this; women are bisexual at several times the rate of men, have far more bisexual or gay experiences when straight, can be turned on by other women by default(consciously the rate is around half, subconsciously or when measured by plethysmograph, the rate is significantly higher), and usually change sexualities to lesbian after living straight. plus, they c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 01:01 PM
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Well, it is a fact that women are more sexually fluid than men(i.e. they find it easier to be attracted to women), but you're making a leap to apply whats true for your gender en-masse to RP men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 08:50 AM
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Women aren't lowly in any way. In my view, all is fair in love, life and war. I just value them for the value(click me) they provide to my life. Like any sane person values anyone else. Its just a fact of life, that by default, women rarely add any value to your life. 50% might be fuckable. 70% might be worth knowing. 10% worth befriending. Venn diagram may intersect in a myriad of ways. I prefer to let each woman prove her value to me before I value her. In that sense, I think all women are "lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 08:45 AM
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I don't think anyone doubts that the transactional model of sex is a reality. Nope. That's a very new development and a sign of the shifting debate. TBP has historically always been adamant in denying reality. The difference is that Blue Pill people think that buying sex is often harmful and not always a good basis for a mutually beneficial relationship. I think we both misunderstand what it means to "buy" sex. Putting a negative spin on things is a surefire way to get BP to disagree. Think of i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 08:35 AM
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Men do not make the first move? Act as the candidate while you act as the chooser? Pay for dates? Peacock to qualify to you? When you choose him, out of all the other men you could have chosen, is he not getting something he was seeking?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 08:10 AM
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It is for me. It is, what I believe, to a far healthier foundation for a honest relationship. Folk do have relationships as a transaction and that is just depressing, and not a sight bit healthy. The idea of looking at what each party gains from an interaction is not something you do consciously all the time... that's autistic... its what you do to maximize efficiency at getting your desired audience to give you their time and association. Its what you do to figure out how to attract and secure …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 08:09 AM
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Men don't really value education and wealth sexually. Whereas women being attracted to the man with resources and mastery has been a thing for tens of thousands of years. Even geneticists agree. Most children were born to a relatively few men each generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 08:05 AM
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Could cultural shaming and unacceptability be a driving force for why more women do not do this? For example, in Hong Kong and South China, its a bit more accepted and happens all the damn time(if he's rich). In the west, not much.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 08:02 AM
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Would you agree women are really good at pretending to be attracted? Or rationalizing to themselves its attraction when really its just a desire for an easy lifestyle? And just in general whoring themselves out and using men for monies. This'd have to be one or the other. If they're settling for a beta and giving sex just because he gives financial stability that's a pretty transactive relationship by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 07:58 AM
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Feminism for me is simply the idea that gender should not limit our participation in the world. Communism to me, is simply the idea that the rich should not oppress the poor. I actually work in places like Nigeria and Pakistan on behalf of my company where we make actual efforts on things like family planning, availability and affordability of female hygiene products and girls education for several tens of thousands of people at a time but I would never in a million years call myself a feminist.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 07:37 AM
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man, this feminism is really neat. doing things that are universally unheard of for almost all of human history. and i dont mean just suffrage. if only we invented feminism 10,000 years ago. that would've solved everything. My point was that the feminism didn't enable women's rights. They were the Marxists there to ask for them when they became inevitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 07:32 AM
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I upvoted you. The downvotes are just a way say this, except we're lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 07:20 AM
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not zero, but non-essential. Its like delivering the final strike to a door that's had all the bracing behind it removed from the last time people tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 05:22 AM
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but that's not due to feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 05:05 AM
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That dating market is alien as far as I'm concerned. Though I've heard a lot about Asian male experience in the west to be defined by scarcity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 05:05 AM
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dank me-mes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 04:38 AM
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Feminism is a long established movement that has given loads of benefit to folk. not really. TRP are just crybabies banding together bastardizing social sciences (which are ironically a STEM field.) nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 04:35 AM
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Rationalization in action... There's no need to make acceptable your compulsions. You should absolutely feel free to obsess over us. Without the need for excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 04:28 AM
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if you were ugly, would you post in a selfie thread? awful leap of judgment to call them goodlooking based on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 04:20 AM
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pics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 01:39 AM
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TBP is SJW. news at 11?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 01:38 AM
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so is feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 12:46 AM
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Actually TRP is really famous. I remember a mod giving out TRP stats in IRC once. Really unbelievable stuff considering what our subscriber count was. /r/theredpill apparently gets 6 million unique visitors per month. This was back in june when the sub rarely went below 1000 people at any time except around 1am in US.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 11:29 PM
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Native south-east asian here. Plus I've also worked in South Asia extensively and have had plenty of exposure to women's groups(my company helped organised and donated to several) as well as family life there. Allow me to add my 2cents. Here's the uglier part you're leaving out: The culture by default is patriarchal. i.e. It gives respect for the husband, as the head of the household, no matter what. This fact of patriarchy is almost disingenuous to deny. Even if a wife has a deadbeat of a husba…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 11:00 PM
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Sorry about the typos, removed them. And added examples for what was vague. It was a hurried post at the time and it still is but you know details are only a search word away. I want a address a gap I didn't cover up there though; approach. But before that, Well... I wanna ask why you think "girls in the library" are so different from the cheerleaders or the girls in clubs? Lets reverse the sexes for a second. Would you say you are superior to your school jock in terms of your instincts? Persona…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 12:46 AM
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A few months ago we had a woman come into PPD and claim that she was "everything TRP wanted in a woman" but that TRPers could never hope to get her. Well, regardless of whether or not she was a unicorn, a few people found my reply to her there insightful so I'm gonna use that reply here. Hope that's ok. But yeah, I would just say this is a good starting point to work with. Not really my cup of tea(no offence OP). But at the same time, let me burst your bubble though. I would definitely say, no I…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 11:07 PM
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Empathy. That's the reason the mods and ECs put time into the sub for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 11:01 PM
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See. This is it. This right here. This is what I'm talking about. You automatically assume that we have never talked about this original idea of yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 10:58 PM
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This is exactly the type of question someone who has no idea would ask. Reality isn't simple. Nor dealing with it. TRP is just a forum where we talk to people who we assume understand, and so condense it into conversation. This stuff routinely fills books and research papers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 08:22 PM
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There's really no good reason to believe women cheat more than men. I haven't said I do. I just think the method of study is provably skewed in favour of answers people want to give, and should be kept in focus. Take the first thing I linked in the other reply as an example of how stats can be skewed, even in this specific context. According to a study done by Ralph Johnson of Sacramento State College, 48% of men, but only 5% of women, expressed a desire to engage in extramarital sex. Yet in act…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 08:18 PM
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Thats an insightful question actually. upvote. People marked with the EC flair are usually well-vetted. So you can start there. That said, I don't usually don't see RPers making the most basic and telling of errors, like interpreting things to absurdity in order to refute them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 07:34 PM
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I think the question is likely to have little impact because the premise is loaded. Because IMHO, less than 10% of the BP side "has an understanding of RP knowledge" and not just a cursory overview of rants about it on the rest of reddit and what they can glean from comments here. Meanwhile almost all of them think that they do. This is not me making a case for no true scotsman or for invalidating their arguments, by all means, continue. But it something that will colour the answers you get and …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 04:02 PM
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That takes away even the sex bit. Which is unwise and IMO inherently unsustainable for women. You can deny the systems of power all you like, but eliminate all of your uses to the people who hold the power and... I think women would find it hard to even survive. Under the idea of patriarchy, the people in power are men. Most women would suffer and it'd still be ineffective actually. Since there is no way sex negative feminism could ever work in the free market. EDIT: come to think of it, men wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 03:03 PM
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If women are the cutthroat machiavellianist, they cry, why do all studies agree that men cheat more often than women? Because they are surveys. And women tick the "I'm a good girl" box on surveys better. Women, like other humans, are very likely to try to convince themselves of a different more virtuous reality, given motive. Because they feel shamed so much about sex, this is an area they very rarely tell the truth in. I also encourage you to read my reply to ILU2. It gives another good reason …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 02:39 PM
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An example to illustrate: Lets say you make a sub about how to play a video game better. Say Europa Universalis. You make a forum about EU4 strategy and about how to be a successful player. Over time, you get a lot of like-minded people and work together a bunch of good, innovative ideas about how EU works and how to play. You model the thought processes of the various opponents and how they're likely to behave. And then, how to take advantage of that. You have articles of how to make a soft-har…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 08:50 PM
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Stir up waters to catch fish. The red pill sub employs this often. Polarizing material, such as "women shouldn't vote" and "Women: the most responsible teenager in the house" is often posted for the express purpose to compel BPers to out themselves for easy banning. And lurkers to self-filter and leave.
/r/TheRedPill30/12/14 01:25 PM
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Here you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 01:00 PM
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I play piano(since age 6). hike. reddit. gym. friends. Aikido(really, we just fuck around). I also cook really well and did it part-time for a while but I don't really count it as a hobby. usually i just chill with my girlfriend. and her friends too if they're there. We travel time to time as well. I've been to 12 countries and counting. 4 with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 11:51 PM
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This is a problem only faced by women who have mastered neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 11:36 PM
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Of course! I love kids and I've always been good at dealing with them. I also like to think I have lifelong worth of experience in being the equivalent of a dad. I practically helped raise my two cousins from when they were 4 and 6 to when they were 15 and 17. I started babysitting them at 13 because their dad was divorced and often had to leave them at his sister's house while he worked. But my mom was busy as hell too. So I had to step up in keeping them happy and busy and I eventually pretty …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 06:58 PM
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lol wut
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 06:37 PM
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I think what you mean is that "OK" is a relative term. Its not OK to society or the victim, but then the only question is why you're subject to their definitions of OK.
/r/TheRedPill29/12/14 03:01 PM
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♂ This symbol, in /r/theredpill, gives you a point. 5 points and you're giving them out yourself, and often you're "endorsed". The points are meant to reflect the fact that TRP is de-facto an incubation chamber for RP mindsets. So people can be in majority and still be wrong, strictly speaking, as far as TRP is concerned. The endorsed people are meant to carry the flag, so to speak. They're not meant to be role models of behaviour(i.e. they're not saints) or prophets of truth but simply role mod…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 05:10 AM
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What a mature and insightful answer to the question. I wish this was RP so I could give you a visibility point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 11:58 PM
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They'll upvote things that they agree with or supports their point at will, even if its blatantly wrong. This is a feature prominent in feminine women and men. They don't debate or argue to discern truth. They debate to appear right. And further their own self-image. Especially in comparison to the opponent. Debate is simply a projection and test of their own hamstering.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:06 PM
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I'm not fond of nationalism but I'm less mainlander and more Hong Konger. Different norms apply here. For one, if I was married, and cheated, my wife could legally kill me(as long as she used her bare hands) or have me sent to a labour camp. Well, kidding. It doesn't happen like that in practice. But she can sue me and the other woman. You also get a lot of humiliation for it if you're found out and HK women are known for starting drama. And even on the mainland, you can't be that blatant. Or at…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 10:34 PM
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Are civilizations left to women not exclusively ~"grass huts"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 07:19 AM
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I, for one, love my double standards. Before I was monogamous, I didn't settle for mutually casual dating. Women I was with could not fuck around with anyone else, even if I wasn't exclusive to them myself. Most women who did that here would be a self-selecting breed: trashy, slutty, attention whores and not worth spending time with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 07:01 AM
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We're explicitly discussing hypotheticals and as soon as there's an opportunity for an even slightly interesting answer, it becomes a personal discussion. With morals and personal attacks/dismissals. c'est la vie. Whisper put this phenomenon into words recently, you should read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 05:13 AM
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I no longer wish to be known as a redpiller. If this is true then this post is unintentionally the most needed post you could have seen today. The red pill should not be part of your identity.
/r/TheRedPill26/12/14 01:10 AM
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So why do we tolerate this state of affairs for sex? She is the only person I am officially allowed to get intimate with. And like your own thread demonstrated, men have far fewer sources of that in general, and combined with libido and lower sexual capital, need her so much more. They're defacto almost held in hostage based on her changing moods. Which they then naturally feel compelled to keep placated. Would you believe dread game evolved as the theoretical counterpart to women's dread? i.e. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 12:01 AM
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Honestly, they respond in the same way that religious fundamentalists do when they see something that violates their codes. Even if they aren't specifically religious. The reaction to TRP's existence is utterly bizarre. Its like we're Danes drawing cartoons and drawing the ire of muslims.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 11:50 PM
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Even if it wasn't deliberate, I'd absolutely leave the relationship if someone was doing that to me with sex. This is the gist of RP's view on women's almost innate modus operandi within relationships. This state of affairs arises almost naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 10:22 PM
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What if I'm smart enough to not be that blunt? What if I'm only generous when I'm in the mood so to speak... When I haven't been offended in arguments. When she does romantic favours for me. When she does my half of the responsibilites so that I've got enough energy. When I'm feeeling like it. You know? Just a lever to subtly influence things without ever saying it. Hypothetically speaking, I wouldn't ever fuck with food,etc... but a lot of other things may go up or down depending. Is this abuse…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 09:40 PM
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OK, I disagree and I think your suggestion is really unworkable in practice, but lets keep it in the hypothetical. Let's say I am her sole source of money. In that case? Same question. Assume we stay at the same standard of living.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 08:43 PM
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Alright then. I am the principle earner in my relationship. I make about 75-80% of our income. My girlfriend lives in the apartment that I own(fully) and lives reasonably well above her means(she has a job as a primary school teacher). In what circumstances would you say it is not abuse for me to withhold money? And to what extent?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 07:13 PM
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If it doesn't interest you, downvote and move on. There's no place for these pointless review posts here. Women are weak. Psychologically, and physically. That's a fact. And it has repercussions worth understanding, in both how you behave with them, and them with you. This is not an absolute statement, and neither is it something hateful to say. You don't need to be men against women to realize this. Due to innate differences, in certain ways women are weaker than men. If you find no value in an…
/r/TheRedPill24/12/14 09:57 PM
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I thought that sounded off. It doesn't match up with the incentives and disincentives. Women would suffer far more repercussions for being fat. And so they would try not to be so much more. If they truly managed to be more fat despite all that, than that's truly a weird pattern worth investigating with women as a whole. That, and I just naturally expect women to weigh less than men by default. Less muscle and all.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/14 07:37 PM
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You're sticking to the surface and not at all listening to or refuting the explanation. None of you are. This is a moot discussion where one concept is clearly true and taken as fact from the OP and its female-equivalent is fish and bicycles.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 02:28 PM
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Are we playing a game? Where votes decide who is right? If you can strictly survive without other people, you don't really need them? Do we not need parents? What about the OP? The OP argues that because men do not get as much emotional outlets as women, thus they need women for this purpose. So this applies to men. And TRP agrees and TBP agrees. Because its the truth. But, when you put the principle to women, its "Women need men like a fish needs a bicycle". You guys are being absurdly stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 10:44 AM
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Not really mate. Her point is like telling a marketter that you will make sales by putting a gun to your customers so why bother learning marketing?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 10:38 AM
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Its funny how you go back and edit all of your answer later after people have replied to them to try and desperately seem more reasonable. I'll take that as a compliment. I editted nothing important except providing an example in one post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 10:27 AM
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I have. What you're doing though is playing a game of pedantry. And still "losing"(because anyone who sinks so low as to insist on continuing a finished argument so pathetically must care deeply about winning and losing). Since you didn't read the wiki of false equivalency and connect the dots, let me take another approach. Let me use /u/Gridrexx's OP to demonstrate. In it, she says the following sentence: Men appear to care more about sex or at least seem to be driven more by sex. You literally…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 09:24 PM
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Why do you need to survive exactly? Because you desire to. A needs are intrinsically tied to what the need is for. To be happy is a want. Things you need to be happy qualify as needs. You can need something for a purpose that is other than survival. Even to turn on a TV, you need electricity. To be emotionally healthy, you need other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 06:58 PM
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Ladies and gentlemen: The Blue Pill. The word I used was to, not at. At least quote me right.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 02:23 PM
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Do you people actually read RP comments with an objective of pedantry? To not listen to me and exchange points of views and information but try to catch me in a logical fallacy and then snark at me to prove how smart you are to your equally stupid blue pill friends? What a useless waste of time... But I'll tell you why you're wrong. Wants and desires are needs. Living is not a need in and of itself. It is only a need because you want to live. You completely overlook this as a given, and thus onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 02:16 PM
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And if you don't literally die from not having a car, or love, I must be wrong. We should hang around moms sobbing about infertility or miscairrage and tell them they didn't really need a child. And women grieving for dead husbands that they didn't really need him anyway. EDIT: The thread cuts off below but I'd encourage the other bluepills to read one reply further.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 01:34 PM
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This is literally something you learn in elementary school as being completely untrue Please stay in elementary school then. There's no requirement for nuance there. Or troublesome things like reading comprehension and common sense which you kids routinely seem to need to abandon in order to "catch me" pedantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 01:27 PM
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Sigh. Well, I expected nothing less from you. Anyway, I hope your false equivalency between pony and husband takes your daughter far in life. And helps in all your other relationships too. After all, why stop at men? Who needs friends too? Not us fishes certainly. Tell this great joke to your husband too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 01:23 PM
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You had a paragraph about women being more insecure. One line. With a somewhat clear reference to about what.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 12:59 PM
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Insecurity about what? Where did I say female-female bonds are not rewarding? You're making very token and nonsensical attempts to respond to what I said. The closest you come is this line: You also forget that men might value a romantic bond more because of sex, which is something they seem to value more regardless, and just the lack of intimacy they're getting elsewhere. Why do you need romantic bonds for sex? Though I do very much think you're on the money for why masculinity is what it is an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 12:53 PM
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Wants and desires are needs. The object of the OP is demonstrating lack of emotional bonds. We can strictly survive without emotions and bonds. So why are emotional bonds needs at all? The fact is, your fish needs that bicycle. Because its emotions tell it to. Lack of love is as real as hunger.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 12:19 PM
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You're not addressing the point I made. But then again, I also secretly agree with you so I'll let it go. If only just for human closeness. See, I agree with that. Woman have far more outlets for human closeness. But they also have far more demand. And varied demand. See, being lonely is not the same as needing support. Or atleast that's true for men. To a woman, its different. Being lonely or unsupported during problems is a distressing state of mind. To a man, it is beneath his notice. It's hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 12:02 PM
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Women cannot maintain themselves emotionally. That is the untestable realm that you can't measure in pure libido. Or in number of supports from family. She needs a rock. Boundaries. Ownership. Love. She will be as unhappy without this as a man without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 11:09 AM
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His point is that sympathy is a mechanism. It means nothing except your own evolved bias to cooperate with the rules of the group. There is nothing wrong or right about this. Its just a mechanism in us that the group thrive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 10:12 AM
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The thing with sources is that whenever RP present them you get twenty people jumping down your throat shouting " le biotruths" or telling you that you didn't read the study or you don't know how to interpret it without any reasoning as to why. Sometimes even the tiniest inaccuracy is taken to mean the entirety of results are fabricated. For example, I once posted a study showing women were far more sexually fluid. The post in question gave plenty of sources for that fact, but also made a refere…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 10:05 AM
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I've been here on and off a while and noticed the exact opposite. Furthermore, I notice how TBP completely invalidates any evidence that contradicts their world view. /u/Agharta15 put it best: You will be blasted for spouting off "biotroofs." If you provide a link to a study, you will be told two things: (a) you didn't read the study [because, you will be told, laymen just repeat the headline of a pop-news piece written by a journalist who only read the abstract], it didn't say what you think it…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 09:55 AM
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When I was younger, I used to work part time playing the piano at a pretty cool 5star hotel. The piano itself was a marvellous white Yamaha 6' grand in a raised platform at the centre of a brightly lit restaurant floor. The restaurant had wonderful chandeliers and furnishing and waiter service and all the bells and whistles of a business of that sort. And of course, brilliant acoustics. Just a strikingly designed room in every sense. Yet still very classy and not feeling overdone. I was lucky to…
/r/TheRedPill21/12/14 10:23 PM
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I'm ethnically Chinese. I was born in Guangzhou to a Malaysian mom and a Chinese dad. Spent my childhood in Hong Kong and Malaysia, studied in Hong Kong, and now work all over Asia. I've dated dozens of both local and foreign chicks. And I'm honestly very average when it comes to looks. The things I've got going for me is the fact that I've got a decent height, a good job, a willingness to approach, an ability to hold good conversation and a good build. Count how many of those you develop too. W…
/r/TheRedPill21/12/14 10:04 PM
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Logical women do not pursue TRP. They realize that hate is not the opposite of respect nor detrimental to the RP ideology's success. But rather apathy is. Thus, we get very few logical women to talk to here. The ones here lack that degree of logic that non-TBP women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 08:30 PM
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Harsh, but true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 07:35 PM
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Just your worth as a woman. Well put. Your worth as a man is your ability to do the things for which men are wanted. Your worth as a woman is your ability to do the things for which women are wanted. Your worth as a person is your ability to do the things for which people are wanted. Value is inherently tied to who is doing the valuing and for what.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 07:23 PM
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You used the word "allow". By describing you, does a person write your destiny? It is irrelevant whether or not RP men do or don't want children. A woman's worth is based off of two things: fertility and beauty. I find it interesting BP women so often conflate worth as a human being with comments on their sexual attractiveness. (Patrice O' Neal is smiling in his grave.) TRP is a theory on sexual strategy. The concept of "wall" applies to SMV only. Therefore, I'm not as attractive if I do not rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 07:14 PM
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Practical considerations trump political correctness. I'll have you know I have very valid and legal reasons for where I said I do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 07:04 PM
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Even though I have just claimed that I do not agree with TRP philosophy, you have just ignored that and assumed I do. Where did he assume you agree with the philosophy? Surely a person does not have to agree with a tactic for it to be effective. Most people think marketing tactics do not work, when research says they really do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 06:54 PM
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Thanks for the update. Where and how do you think it says you are not allowed to be logical, only emotional? Where does it disallow your financial independence? And I would say many RP don't want children.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 06:48 PM
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In what way does TRP try to strip you of your humanity and choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 06:24 PM
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I've written on this phenomenon before and you are actually spot on 100%. The only reason RPW is not that way is because it was organized based on the wishes of RP men. Who really would rather not contribute to what they feel is a growing problem of female succubi in the world. By their logic, being a man who plays by the morals gets you no reward and that a man's self-interest is completely ignored in normal discourse and culture. Being a woman who plays by decency and morals however is somethi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 06:20 PM
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This is the exact same way a nice guy grieves. Average looking girls do not know how to play. I swear to god if I was a woman, even an average looking woman, and could keep knowledge of my experiences and things I've learned, I would be provided for like a queen. I even know just the guys I would fuck. It basically comes down to risk and reward. They do not represent an irresistable sexual reward but they can compete by minimizing risk to the wanted suiter by being very inviting. There is a very…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 06:15 PM
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This is going to be percieved as biased and an insult but I honestly believe you nailed the truth here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 05:53 PM
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Many of us are very critical of the shittier parts of feminism. In the same way as many TRPers are critical of the cherrypicked examples of misogyny on TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 05:52 PM
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Dread is even less detectable when its your modus operandi and nothing less is expected of you. It may be intentional for TRP but it is the default state of being for most high value men. It doesn't even have to be ignoring her and valuing your time. I know some that completely supplicate but still have dread. Some just keep lots of women friends. Say, you pick a woman from that crowd to be your SO but still remain frank and close with the others. She can deny it all she likes, but there's hardl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 05:42 PM
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AWALT is not an absolute. It is a warning against the danger of naively assigning snowflake status women before they show any reason to deserve it. Assuming AWALT is the only logical option. If you are a woman, when you date men, do you not de-facto assume AMALT? Doesn't the man have to earn your respect, trust and affection? Men love women by default. They have enormous bias to overlook or never notice her very human nature. In fact, most BP pursue her so unselfishly because of it. A woman, wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 05:36 PM
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I'm pointing out that "the man provides and the wife gives sex" is an erroneous depiction of duties. If I enter into employment with X company, and also routinely offer great help to them in organizing events, that doesn't change the reason I was sought out and employed. The lack of domestic duties is not a deal breaker for men. He would have no need of a housekeeper and domestic duties if he was a bachelor. Most bachelors survive perfectly fine. What he does seek women out for is sex. The lack …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 05:55 AM
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You're demonstrating the premise of the OP superbly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 05:42 AM
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Arranged marriage here is a thing. A friend of mine in HKU was a mainlander with HK citizenship. He received an average of 1 marriage proposal a month. We used to sit around fucking with them over phone. and then rating the girl's pictures. most weren't bad. High SMV purely from subjective status. you don't even need attractiveness or confidence. Same guy was terrible with local girls, really not much more than a half-decent looking nerd. but when he graduated he want back home and absolutely to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 09:21 PM
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nah. you can usually convince kids to do what you want to do anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 09:08 PM
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Agreed. But you should know I receive about 1 death threat a month(+ other niceties). And I'm not even one of the famous ECs. You can be our fans all you like. But keep your distance. And don't brigade.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 07:26 PM
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Man, I really fail to see what's so wrong about any of those images from TRP. Most of them are context-less mob porn, where you take a tweet-sized harshly said phrase from one user to another user in a closed conversation and make it representative of TRP's long, long reading list on the sidebar. ex. misandry bubble, or sexual utopia in power Perhaps the only difference is time, and in time the rank-and-file of TRP will call out against the concept of “AWALT” or call for the removal of Women: th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 07:18 PM
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i no get your english. too educate 4 me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 07:03 PM
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How are people talking in private when there are other people talking on blogs? #JustJadenSmithThings
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 07:01 PM
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So because we're not hard to find, we're asking for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 06:59 PM
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I'd be very willing. If she could: -make enough money to sustain our present standard of living (or better) -come home with enough energy for the obligatory blowjob(or better) See, I already cook, and I'm great with kids and I love kids. I worked with children with problems for several years when I was in college. plus, home-making is a cushy job and I always wanted to sit around and practice piano or do my art
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 06:41 PM
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Don't buy into the bullshit, man. Women just tick 'no' on the surveys better. This is a well-established fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 06:38 PM
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May I just say, that was wonderfully put. I'll be using this in future. I wish this was in TRP so I could give you a visibility flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 06:11 PM
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TRP is not a self-improvement thing. Its a sexual strategy thing. Self-improvement happens to coincide.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 06:46 AM
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And our imaginations obsess millions. Haters and lovers alike.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 06:37 AM
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Tl;dr you're butthurt I talked about women without also calling out men? 1) I actually did speak about men, when asked. And so has TRP. But the fact is, its just not our focus. 2) You think of the red pill as some prescriptive medicine or religious guideline on moral. When its not. Its a manual for opportunists. There is no golden rule here. Like, how is your girl leaving you for another guy who is better for her any different than you "nexting" a woman who isn't good for you? You deeply misunde…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 01:53 AM
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♂ I sure wish TRP bot was working again. Maybe I'll resubmit so you'll get the point. This is the reminder for me
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 01:52 AM
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none of this stuff makes a man "more attractive" to a woman. Oh, but it does. Read that sentence again and tell me if you believe it for a second. Take a woman's femininity and chastity (and sanity). I compared these to the warranty on what she's actually offering; sex. People usually like to make purchases with a warranty. You can remove the warranty, however, and still have her be fucked and used for a little while at a time. And many women do. You can find an undiscerning buyer and have him p…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 01:47 AM
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The idea that the wall is an actual wall that you smash into at 26. And come out 27 being sexually worthless. Like I pointed out to another user. Even fat and ugly women get laid. But they don't pick the men they want to fuck as easily. The wall is simply a gradual decline of sexual choices, and passing out of the window where you are generally "top choice" to where you are generally not "top-choice" in relation to your younger peers. This is basically it. That sexual capital generally declines …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 01:23 AM
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Wemon don't just combust into ugly at age 27. Again.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 12:45 AM
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A woman's confidence, achievements, maturity, wisdom, etc. can be the reason a man loves his wife. But none of that gets his penis hard. Love and sexual attraction are distinct. A man can love a rock. A rock does not turn him on. This applies to women as well. Read the RP sidebar post on value. It explains the concept well. See, a rock becomes loved when it shows the man value. It is not loved just for being a rock. A woman can be loved without having sexual value. But by and large, for 99% of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 12:41 AM
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This was a very stupid reply to what you quoted and what you are responding to in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 11:54 PM
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Sexual capital =/= just getting laid. But I'll address the more compelling interpretation of what you said instead: She can't fuck the kinds of guys she wants. But she can fuck guys. i.e. the demand from low value males is there because men have higher libidos. And lower standards for just fucking a woman(as opposed to investing in a woman). There is no demand for low-value males though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 11:13 PM
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I really hate it when people resort to taking a fucking slang metaphor literally in order to pretend they have a point. That is textbook hamstering: roundabout avoidance of mental dissonance without addressing anything at all. Basically, you interpret generalities as hard and fast absolutes or metaphors as literal things in order to pretend they're bullshit when you want to. Try a more nuanced version in your head and get back to me with a criticism. A bit of common sense is a pre-requisite when…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 11:03 PM
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Basically, you interpret things as hard and fast absolutes in order to pretend they're bullshit. Try a more nuanced version in your head. Lets try the problem you yourself mentioned with it as an example. Think carefully and try and pay attention to the difference in mental impact when you say "a hot 22 year old babe"... and saying "a hot 30 year old babe". The difference isn't in just looks. Your age itself matters as a woman. It is an aspect by which you are evaluated as a partner. And looks d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 10:58 PM
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Basically, so far you know this spiking of suicide happened. But that's it. If you want to pin the problem on a causative factor, you have to provide a link. East Asia might not be the best example. Because although you don't have feminism per se, you do have a lot of other stuff. Just under a different name and with different traits. i.e. there is social upheaval, but without the political correctness drive or over-sensitivity or exact brand of cultural marxism. My point is; is this trend also …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 08:09 PM
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That information about partner history is not important. In fact, it is so unimportant she will lie to everyone, and ask her friends to lie for her too, to keep that unimportant information from ever reaching a man she wants to marry someday. That is how unimportant that information is. /s ~ /u/stayinghereforreal
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 06:27 PM
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while feminists defend the victims and insist that male rape is a big deal and matters too! ... when its conveniently coinciding with a feminist cause. ... years after mercilessly crushing, constantly fighting and demeaning a dedicated movement that fought for that cause for a long time. Called MRA. A group that constantly tried for co-existence and dialogue before beaten into giving up. For no reason whatsoever except that their monopoly on victimization was threatened. Fuck your perceived self…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 05:49 PM
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As always, you are being completely nonsensical.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 04:56 PM
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Huh, really interesting idea. I actually did this to a plate once and she loved it, though I didn't make it for that reason. Hell, I didn't make it consciously at all. Her given name was "Hanako". But that didn't role off the tongue very well. It was 3-syllables, harsh. And I was a gentle-giant kinda guy then. I liked being affectionate, and paternalistic I guess, in a sense. I called her "Hana". Oh, and just like you, whenever we became serious... it was "Hanako". She used to ask me to call her…
/r/TheRedPill14/12/14 04:40 PM
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The key is personalization. A feeling of specialness. An earned name that you gave her in a moment of playful intimacy. Not the monotonous expectation words like honey or babe. In fact, babe is just probably something that some alpha in the past started using and it caught on as a tactic. I think OP is just suggesting that you start something just for you two. And whats more, everytime you use it, you pull her back into the distinctly unique frame of yours of playfulness and fun that you had whe…
/r/TheRedPill14/12/14 04:30 PM
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So why such umbrage when people say "men are potentiel rapists" or the more PC "teach men not to rape." Not all men, but under conditions... The umbrage is with teach men not to rape. Because its Dora the explorer type bullshit. Even my 3 year old niece doesn't buy why "swiper no swiping" works. Hell, don't women already teach men not to rape? If not, then that "No, please... stop... don't... Oh god, no..." + sobbing was highly misleading. And or cases where its drunk sex, then we already don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 02:37 PM
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Imagining a narrative of males being superior from an honest description of sexual dynamics with women is your own invention. We focus on women because that's what we work with and what we want to work with. Why should we shove equality (via discussion of men) into every point on TRP just because you want political correctness? Women and men both hamster. Both are hypergamous. Both are solipsistic. And more. Redpill 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 02:27 PM
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Everything depends on incentives and disincentives. Testosterone charged men are capable of anything. From doing the dangerous jobs of the world, to exploring places to jumping on mines in a game of Russian Roulette like those guys who titled the study on Darwin Awards. You can try and control the flow of that energy, but some will always spill over. When women DTF are not available, the males will rape far more. Nothing can be done except introduce disincentives and whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 02:13 PM
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More men are raped in the US than women. Far more if the definitions of rape are modified. Women and feminists do not really care. Women only care about these rapes because they gain something by proxy. edit There was a very legitimate group known as MRA that took up these causes and learned the hard way that men cannot be sympathized with for their own sake. There must be something to gain, especially if its a woman doing the sympathizing. Women/feminists completely threw all male causes under …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 02:07 PM
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More men are raped in the US than women. Nobody cares about the men. They are disposable. Men in war especially.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 02:06 PM
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Inserting women into male spaces is what is detrimental. -Special accommodations must be made. Protections from fellow soldiers must clearly be established as well as the enemy(because losing a woman is historically always a distraction and propaganda boost to the enemy). Women will always be a very small minority because the women who can reach male standards of fitness by training are a very exceptional few. Thus, to achieve the types of critical mass feminists demand, tests MUST lower the bar…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 02:04 PM
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Hah, either put up or shut up. The PC isn't correct by default here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 01:06 PM
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Would you be fine with women in the military if they meet the requirements of men? If yes, then we essentially agree. No. I would not. Read points 1 and 2 in the edits.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 11:54 PM
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If women show they are able to do the job they are expected to do, where is the problem? The bar for showing they are able is lowered. The idea that a co-ed environment should be created when the mere mixing of genders is obviously proving detrimental. Any role they fulfill past medical can be done better by a man. A woman does not belong in a fighter jet. Or as a marine ground solder (except for PR with indigenous people). She is literally a liability in every imaginable capacity. She is an inf…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 11:48 PM
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What expertise do you have to say the culture needs to change? A military is not a normal working environment. It is a de-facto intentional breeding ground of risk-takers, psychopaths and professional killers who the military must then control by a death-grip on their balls. They exist in a high-stress environment where one of the few rewards consist of intense rivalry and male bonds of brotherhood with their fellow soldiers. It is not meant to be a pleasant experience. Demanding that women be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 11:23 PM
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I swear, the amount of entitlement is insane. Every space that women find the minutest of interests in must rearrange themselves in anticipation of their arrival. Women have no business in a military, except as support. They have no expertise in demanding that a culture of martial conduct and discipline be changed simply because they are being raped by shoving themselves in places full of masculine, aggressive, testosterone charged men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 11:08 PM
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What are women even doing in the military? What are they doing there except as a statement of political correctness? As soldiers, they are detrimental every time they replace an equally or more qualified male on the battlefield. For what reason does a military's culture need to change? If you want to prevent the rape and suffering of women, keep women out of places they do not belong. The only beneficial effect that I can possibly see for making women more involved with combat roles is it makes …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 09:46 PM
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Holy crap. Do you have any data for outside of the US? East Asia specifically? I'm on my mobile for the next few days or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 09:01 PM
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what's your description of what most men are like? OK... Why not. Not an exhaustive list but then neither was the last one. The RP's list of adjectives lists things to take advantage of, or to look out for. If I was a woman making my analogue to TRP, I might list something like the following. I think most men do carry these traits and they can be taken advantage of. However, they manifest in betas and alphas very differently so there is no perfect analogue for men and women. So, lets see... Ego-…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 07:55 PM
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Social scientists have found that there is no well-designed research that demonstrates that single-sex schools improve student's academic performance. However, there is evidence that sex segregation increases gender stereotyping among children and teachers and legitimizes institutional sexism. 1) Does not contradict my statement. 2) Sounds like a benefit to me. Listen to this line: ""Is it ever good to segregate on the basis of race, income or *age*? I think the answer is no," Fabes said. "There…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 03:43 PM
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Absolutely not. By the way, all except 1, 2, 7 of the remarks by the politicians were even all that bad. The fact that there's such an overreaction to the other 5 says more about how feminism's not needed. Especially number 8. Not just the hysteria, just look at that reverse sexism. "My wife would clock me if I made such a remark(Calm down, dear")" says one Chancellor proudly. None of those issues are particularly pressing or indicative of a great systemic bias against women which must be fought…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 12:40 PM
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Specifically, in a number? Nearing 100%. But not always under the same conditions. And not always all at once. For example, anyone can be made to murder. But we don't know under what conditions that tendency can be made to express itself. As a less drastic example, anyone can be made to lie. To cheat. To be selfish. To be angry and vindictive ass or even a charitable, noble soul. People are multi-faceted and constantly go through their iterations. Women are made of their flattering facades and v…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 10:59 AM
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And I don't agree with it because reality is much different. Ahem. In your completely ridiculous opinion. ;) Your stats are for degrees. If you do not think there is a problem with converting degrees to women in science, you have another thing coming. Also, sexism in science could use a factual based assessment. I recommend christina hoff sommers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 12:04 AM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2jte86/here_is_what_trp_gets_wrong_about_women_and_the/clewecz?context=10000 you just can't win. why even try? The fact is RP has hundreds. Literally hundreds of studies for its claims. But they're never enough. So we don't even bother anymore. I could produce dozens on demand. I am someone in a field where I read studies for fun, btw. And just to keep up in general. The idea that just because you don't like what they say means nobody can know wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 11:55 PM
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OP is not even red pill. They even think its a "tenet" when its just one of the many things we've discussed and you guys recently discovered we did.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 04:30 AM
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don't snark please. most of what i said is common sense or easily looked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 04:29 AM
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This stuff is basically common sense that very recently went out of fashion political correctness to ask. Apparently, because we're trying out lack of all expectations for women for some reason. And please, when the data is this unianimous and paints a trend this stark, with absolutely not a single shred of contradicting evidence, its not just "generally speaking" its pretty much AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 04:28 AM
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ultimately more than 50% of great men that have advanced civilization had to be doing it for sexual reward for this theory to have teeth. And we all know great men comprise the entirety of civilization. Or its progress. The motives of the rest of the 99.999% don't matter at all. What simple minded thinking. And the idea that the pursuit of sexual reward is such a straightforward thing is ridiculous too. People aren't constantly living their lives thinking how to pay society to arrange sex. They'…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 06:29 PM
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If you can't tell that someone is a slut then apparently it has nothing to do with how well the relationship goes. The evidence is against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 06:13 PM
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I'm actually in a part of the world that's far ahead of the US in terms of STEM participation. I assure you the culture never needed to be changed. Also, masturbating away money in uni is different from acquiring and keeping a job in the field. And even more different when you consider whether you're contributing in them. In that criteria, that demographic is not changed. My point stands. I'm in ChemE. Apparantly, this is one of the high-paying STEM fields women actually take to. I was informed …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 06:04 PM
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when the demographic changes the culture changes. Exactly. Not before though. Unfortunately, before is exactly what women are gunning for. In anticipation of some unspecified and unlikely time in the future when women will deign to participate in so and so science, all current members of said science must re-arrange the furniture, the vocabulary, the tones, the culture, the shirts... to facilitate and catalyze this time. Our delicate wallflower women must not be discouraged in any way. Why in fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 07:37 PM
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I honestly think TBPers are naive about this hypothetical. I personally have even used feminism's own sex positivity to get away with it. I dated this british chick in HK a few years ago and a bunch of our friends were mutual so she knew exactly what I was. When I asked her about it, it was "in the past". History is history. As long as my intentions were clear with all involved. And they were. This girl was my serious LTR btw. Women can be amazingly forgiving. About ugliness. About history. Abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 08:25 PM
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"What do I care for your suffering? Pain, even agony, is no more than information before the senses, data fed to the computer of the mind. The lesson is simple: you have received the information, now act on it. Take control of the input and you shall become master of the output." -Sheng-Ji Yang You are talking about degree of rationality. Punching me activates my pain response to which I am biologically conditioned to jolt away from the source of. It arouses in me feelings of anger so that I can…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 08:14 PM
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Yep. Not offensive at all. Quite accurate. So, /u/Spartacus321, the question now is how would you advise TRP to address the shortcomings you mention? Is an addressing of these problems even possible? Because believe me, the idea of the influx of members to TRP being inexperienced people who need help, isn't new to us in TRP. The mods and ECs can see it as well as anyone. We've discussed it to death. The problem really has always been "how do you address it?". Do you force them to shut up? Do you…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 10:20 AM
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How can it be a rational response? How can any response be rational? The only logic is feelings and evopsych to justify those feelings. I have no idea what you're expecting. nothing about it is unfair or silly or illogical... or at least any more than any other bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 05:43 AM
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Everyone thinks their war is justified, mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 05:03 PM
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A hypothetical you are hiring for a company, and the last two candidates are a man and a women. Do you think that you, knowing as you do, that women are less rational would affect your hiring choice? (If you do not in fact believe this, feel free to call me out on it.) I do this all the time. I disadvantage all female applicants simply because I am asked about what people I want working for me. I don't make any final decisions on who gets hired, mind you. I am simply present in a panel during th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 04:56 PM
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I wrote a lot of words explaining why sluts are disparaged. That shitty lock/master key is a very valid valid analogy. As valid as any other bias. Sluts are shamed for a very valid reason. and that reason will not die down unless you address -female-female competitiveness. people who slut-shame in real life and create gossip about specific women's sluttiness are women. -male biological/emotional aversion to whorish behaviour. males, like females, do not want to associate with women who have unat…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 03:59 PM
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What possible use is the shitty lock vs. master key thing (and its variants) if not to "prove" why the double standard is okay/fair/justified? You can't tell me you've never seen it used that way in TRP or PPD, especially when that is literally the way it's phrased ("The slut/stud double standard is absolutely justified!"). Heck, this thread is actually a great example: I take issue with the idea that "that slut/stud thing is totally logical!" and 4 different redpillers jump down my throat to co…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 02:21 PM
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If a woman were to say everything you said but place the man is deferential and the woman as master, the reaction would be very oppositional and visceral. Hah. Try me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 01:08 PM
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In the way that the symbol has hystorically been applied to the sexes, it has stood for a very... decidedly non-feminist stereotyping. They are equal and complimentary. But not in the way that you think. Male and female stand for dominant and submissive as well, and they always have. ex. The Yin is young, the Yang is old. The Yin is the pursued. Yang is the Pursuer. Yin is passive. Yang is active. The Yin can be the people(the dot being divine essence), the Yang can be the gods(the dot being the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 12:10 PM
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On the PPD thread, the OP pretty much said it was innate. I scrolled down and the first RP EC said the same: gut reaction. I am 100% positive thats what redpillschool would say as well. As well as pretty much every other RP EC. I already said it. If we could get u/rollo-tomassi, I'm sure he would as well. In fact, I don't remember the exact post of TheRationalMale but I know he's already said it. Mainly I just find the assertion that TRP ever said attraction is something you can be logical or ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 12:35 AM
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So that's it? This is the proof you guys have been touting in this thread? A study you can't read and a blog from the manosphere that says "We can't find anything reputable"? There seems to be much, much less interest in analyzing the link between promiscuity and marital outcomes for men than for women. Briffault's law. Men do not decide the conditions of family. Women do. The people deciding marital outcomes are almost always women. Hell, nearly every study on divorce I've ever seen is about wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 11:38 PM
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Bullshit from foreigners. Yin and Yang when applied to the sexes can be and is very sexist..
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 10:26 PM
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I'm actually not being snarky or condescending. Or at least not intentionally. Was it the part where I used your username or the part with the TM ? Removed. For the use of "you"... well, I don't know what to say. Usually people can detach themselves from the groups being hypothetically addressed. The group here, if you'll read, being women. A group which doesn't take kindly to being addressed at all I think :) but I really think the reason that it's so hard to twist this admission out of some pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 08:57 PM
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I lived in china. and have heard people use it in relation to the sexes. i've heard people acquainted with chinese philosophy and symbology speak at length about the history of the symbol. meanwhile, you clearly have not scanned your own (deeply incomplete) wiki page and the meanings associated with the sides. Yin and Yang deeply reinforce traditional masculinity and femininity. They always did. yin and yang are not also interchangable. They are distinct, complementary identities. Equality is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 08:03 PM
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so forget the word "shaming" I accept your defeat. :) and just focus on the slut/stud designation as it is discussed in TRP. We're not talking about hurt feelings, just whether it makes rational sense to personally perceive women negatively for promiscuous behavior. Why do women dislike PUAs? And players? And TRPers? After all, there's no reason to assume he's going to do the same to you. He was just having his honest fun. Basically, its a "once a whore, always a whore" mentality. But why is bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 07:54 PM
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Lol, you do know yin and yang is and has always been quite sexist in its usage, right? At least in the ways feminists would interpret it. As usual you BPers are mouthing from a position of utter ignorance. In yin yang, the female is actually darkness. She is cold, wet, sneaky, treacherous, and negative. She is hellish and sinful. She is the passive. She is change in essence. She is soft. She is nature. She is the moon and the night. The male is light. He is hot, dry, overt and in the open and po…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 06:32 PM
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shame verb (of a person, action, or situation) make (someone) feel ashamed. I was not aware there were any women in TRP that could be being shamed. Hell, we do our part to keep ourselves isolated and our conversation never to touch anyone outside. No one is invited and women especially are booted. How do we shame women exactly? As far as I see it, you guys are seeking out a way to feel shamed and victimized by yourselves. How many people have we heard on PPD and TBP saying TRP helps them see aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 05:51 PM
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Why do I owe it to her to treat her as a person first, before I treat her as a sex object? Do I owe the sportsman on the television treatment as a person before I treat him as an entertaining man who kicks a ball around skillfully? Do I owe the waiter or McDonalds clerk treatment as a person before treating them as a conveyor belt of food? What makes a woman so special? Why is she not a series of fuckholes unless shown otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 05:11 PM
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but provides no insight into why promiscuous women are "sluts" (a pejorative, not a neutral descriptor). The analyses never explain how sleeping around being easy for women makes it bad/icky/wrong; here you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 05:02 PM
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I'm a bit far from America. Maybe its because the male virgin is of no real use to anyone, thus there's no reason to respect him. What's more, disrespecting him is a good way to build up rapport with the rest of society. And everyone likes punching bags to build themselves up. The slut though still has plenty of uses. Erotic capital mostly, but she's also socially in with everyone cool too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 05:00 PM
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I think the mechanism of shaming is something you deeply misunderstand. For instance, the people doing slut-shaming predominantly in the real world are women. The people being shamed are not shamed for having sex. They're shamed because they have lower sexual market value, and women compete based on SMV all the time. If one woman doesn't like another woman, she can use this as a way to shame her for it and put her down. That is all it is. In a similar way, a virgin male also has low sexual marke…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 04:33 PM
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The TRP heirarchy of love: Men --> Women ---> Children Also, yes, one obvious condition for loving your children is them being your children: your genetic legacy. Biologically speaking, you fixate on their child to help them maximize their chances of being successful enough to reproduce further, because if they don't, your genetic line ends. If you don't care about that to the point you have no legacy, fair enough. But future generations will likely inherit nothing from you, and your disposition…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 03:10 PM
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Anyone who is not big, ripped, buff and the "rambo" type is not normative masculine? You need to work on your idea of what a masculine identity is. Strength needn't be belligerent and loud. In fact, overwhelming strength never is. Perhaps read some of the books that TRP asks you to read. I recommend Way of Men by Jack Donovan. Hell, one of the men TRP regards as its idols of masculinity and alphaness in behavior and speech is Russel Brand. Simply because when he gets into it, he demonstrates in …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 12:12 PM
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The top 1% of men can match the sexual opportunities of any given top 40-50% women. Dan Bilzerian's ease of getting sex identifies him as part of that 1%. That status is impressive. He had to be handsome, ripped, charismatic and have a net worth of $100 million dollars to get it. In contrast, qualifying for the top 50% is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 10:08 AM
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men have the capacity to love unconditionally. Nobody loves unconditionally. Anyone who thinks unconditional love exists must love everyone. And if they try and revise it to a special state of affection that exists for one person only, they must still ask themselves how they come into it and fall out of it. The point is not that men love unconditionally, or that women don't. Its that they have different conditions for love. For a man, the woman is the prize. For a woman, what the man can do for …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 09:47 AM
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Being masculine was encouraged? Bullshit. Being a teasing, selfish ass if that's what you genuinely wanted to do would have been encouraged? Openly stating and pursuing sexual intentions was encouraged? Rejecting women for the inadequacies you don't like, encouraged? Being dominant with women? Leading her? OWNING her? Any of that... was encouraged? Bullshit. Romance was and is a guessing game for most people. Excepting those "who just get it", like natural alphas. Or those who have no active par…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 09:12 AM
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Isaac Newton didn't build civilization. He was a catalyst for it. The laws of motion and gravitation represent nothing without someone to apply them. Essentially, you're overlooking 99.999% of everyone relevant to any story of civilization. Not only those billions, you're also overlooking 99+% of the list of great people as well. All in an attempt to characterize greatness to be associated with asexuality or androgyny. Even among significant leaders and scientists, artists and the like, Newton i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 09:07 PM
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In the parts of the world where feminism is actually needed, where gender inequity is actually a thing, I play my part. Possibly more than any gathering of BP internet warriors combined. I do support the things that feminism ostensibly stands for. But I have absolutely nothing but contempt for the modern first-world-problem victim Olympics that feminism represents.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 08:25 PM
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You: Hey. My eyes are up here honey ♂ Nice. And remember kids, a shit-test response is not an end in and of itself. You're supposed to use this as a foundation to jump into a whole new line of playful sexual conversation, instead of devolving into awkwardness or embarressment.
/r/askTRP04/12/14 07:44 PM
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A small minority of the men are doing the great majority of the raping. Dunno if its relevant or this source. Just heard this fact in passing and found it interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 08:11 AM
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Oh yes, sex surveys. Hard to refute that evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 07:56 AM
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Think of it like penguins and their rock offerings: The hypergamic need of the female for value drives men to get it. Mating is the common denominator driving everything. Men did work for society because they had an investment in it. In getting something they wanted back. I've heard it said a few times that monogamy exists to motivate betas to work, by assuring them of access to pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 07:53 AM
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Racism allowed a great many nations to become very assertive, it served as a great means to unite groups, and allowed great many peoples to be live very advantaged lives and pass on their genes to children who had less competition. Its absurd to say it wasn't an evolutionary evolved perk. Negative effect for all of mankind does not equal negative effect for a specific group, and does not prevent that group from adopting traits. When mankind became united enough, racism went on the decline. Simpl…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 10:28 PM
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Ironically, as a long-time RPer, I've also compared TRP to a placebo. But in a different way. What's happening here is you're taking the "pill" metaphor a bit too literally. TRP isn't actually medicine. It's a set of ideas. Medicine does not work based on mindsets. Seduction and socialization is almost entirely transformed by mindsets.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 08:40 PM
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Well, he's not a total pushover. To give a specific example of what I meant when I said he's a "pushover at times", we were at a party and were choosing someone to go buy more booze (the store was a fair distance away). We all demanded he go and he gave in because he's damn sweet, haha. That's not very pushover-y. Assholes -don't- upset the crowd. In fact, they actually please the crowd by upsetting one or two people. And if that's not possible, assholes choose not to be assholes in front of cro…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 08:22 PM
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Here's an excerpt for those hesitating: Man on a mission: Alright, feminists, playtime is over for now. This blog will now return to its regularly scheduled programming. The most attractive thing to women is a man on a mission. How does a man act when he's on a mission? A man on a mission cares not for any girl's reaction to him. He cares for his mission. Sure, he may want sexual release, but he feels no approach anxiety. To a man focused on a higher mission, approaching girls is like playing wi…
/r/TheRedPill02/12/14 07:45 PM
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A woman who is like RPW would be good. A woman who is aware of the red pill? Not so much. I've actually tried that. Telling a woman about the red pill. She was a friend, though. Completely platonic. When she said the words "are you treating me like that? Are you doing that to me right now?" during a slight argument... I decided I didn't want to deal with that. There's no point. A master never reveals his "tricks". Full disclosure though, I can't help but apply RP now. Its not intentional anymore…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 07:46 AM
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I don't need a throwaway. I like honesty, and I'm not ashamed of any of it. I'll give it a go. I don't believe she/he argued it in any way coherently, so I didn't say any of this at the time but mitreddit was partially right. Sociopathy does run in some of the males in my family. My father is a businessman who's way of conducting family and work is decidedly pretty sociopathic. Besides him, my cousin is also a legit diagnosed sociopath. What's more, I've known him to manipulate, use(as a full-bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 08:49 AM
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I would never date a RPW.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 06:52 AM
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LTR. I prefer not to give personally identifying details. 3-5 times a week. Except when travelling. Lots of intimacy besides sex though. I wrote about it elsewhere but I make it a point to separate intimacy from sex. Intimacy exists for its own sake. She is always willing. I am the limiting factor. 3-5 times. 8 I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 06:01 AM
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I meant "just like AWALT" ironically. See, the troll wouldn't know that what I'm saying is harmless, but someone familiar with TRP would. AWALT is not an absolute. It is basically a warning to plugged in males. A functional truism. The equivalent to a response to the famous #NotAllMen hashtag. It simply says the danger exists, in a non-insignificant quantity and you should be aware of it. It takes the form of AWALT because a common phrase BPers adopted to spout to any thing red pill said was "No…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 05:37 PM
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I have and I think I wrote about it elsewhere. Poorly it seems because I think you even commented on it and you came away with the impression that its desirable. Beyond the fetish value and occasional anal(believe it, its rare), its really not fun. Theyre usually just crazy basic bitches who happen to be 'devoutly' christian. The ones I've met are plural because that's why they do it. They live on the whims of peer pressure and they have a really novel way of dealing with mental dissonance: ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 03:22 PM
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I wish comments like this were more common around here, until comments like the former were not. Sincerely upvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 09:09 PM
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ugh. I'm not giving her the advice, mate. Your replies are inane. The problem with your and her conclusion and short-sighted line of thinking is its naive and absurdly caricaturized. And because its clearly not obvious to you yet, even though it should be... let me explain: There is no superpower for seducing women. There is no cheat code in real life. By "working" I did not mean a magic trick by which she suddenly decides to fuck me. Or is attracted to me, to the absence of all other factors. O…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 12:42 PM
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Rapport, mate. Rapport. The point is not fucking her that day on the spot. Its providing the basis for a future close. Creating a chance. Chemistry. blushing. teasing. intimate conversation... basically... rapport. So, at one point, here is a woman who probably thinks I'm the scum of the earth. And a terrible influence. Then here's that same woman who's trying to prove to company I haven't completely swept her off her feet. Arguing. Laughing. As if we're fast friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 05:09 PM
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Unluckily, after asking for debate week, I completely found myself without the time to participate. I would like to request we extend debate week till forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 07:12 PM
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Oh, right. Should mention my friend was convinced though. The final nail in the coffin was was when she tried showing interest in nice guy him just to make a point to me. Had opposite the intended effect for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 07:05 PM
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My question is, would rp tactics like negging, dread game, amused mastery and all that work on someone who was aware of them and aware they were being gamed? Or do they only work on those who are ignorant of them? Done well enough, yes. About a few weeks, I was giving a friend of mine some advice on romance next to this chick(so far a strager to me, but a friend of my friend). I hadn't been paying attention to her, and it wasn't a bar or clubbing environment at all, but she clearly got the impre…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 07:02 PM
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Everyone falls for this kind of stuff. Everyone. The only limitation here is your imagination. You are insinuating the equivalents of teasing, confidence and the setting of boundaries and introduction of competition do not work on people. A very short-sighted point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 06:31 PM
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Especially if you believe that getting into a relationship automatically disqualifies someone as alpha. This is a terrible complete misinterpretation what she said. See, if you'll check the glossary, alpha is clearly defined as leadership traits. I think what she meant is that men, to try to acquiesce to their wife's whims, often foolishly dispense with their "alpha" behaviours WITHIN the relationship, even when that's what got them the girl in the first place. Its a subtle shift day to day, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 06:18 PM
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Hm, I wouldn't say gays specifically. These are criminals with seemingly nothing to lose in the short term, facing a target they don't have much sympathy for (not a woman + fellow criminal) acting on frustrated male sexual energy. Not surprising something like that rate of rape would happen in that population. Guys just have more sexual needs in general. Hell, it reminds of a guy I knew in Malaysia. In for reckless driving and jailed for 6 months. I asked him what the worst thing about prison wa…
/r/TheRedPill21/11/14 02:11 PM
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TL;DR Traveling itself is an aphrodisiac. This is a point I want to highlight. This is true even if you're not currently travelling. Its true even if you go to places where you can't expect to get much action(for example places I regularly go to include Pakistan, Iran, India, Cambodia, lots of countries in West Africa, etc). Its just that you're the type of guy that goes places. If you can seamlessly drop relevant(dont be a douche) stories of your experiences, if you have the aura of a man who's…
/r/TheRedPill21/11/14 01:59 PM
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It makes no sense to call my response "absolutist" as if it's a bad thing, given that the person is undeniably absolutely wrong. I am not calling your response absolutist. I am talking about the people arguing with you. That makes no sense unless we assume that there is a claim that masculine norms are always, and in every situation, advantaged but I don't think there is any position that states that Exactly. This is what I called absolutist TBP style bullshit. For example, the idea that a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/14 06:24 PM
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15% of women in executive positions admit to having sex with their bosses. (search pls. on mobile.) 34% say they know a woman who definitely has.
/r/MensRights17/11/14 12:39 PM
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You can accept that some red pillers are wrong on some things, like the absurd idea that science uses dictionary definitions. Thank you for your permission. But it is not necessary. I am not anybody's team, but I do dislike exceptionally and unjustifiably haughty and stubborn people. Just saying. The part I agree with you is that the people arguing are repeatedly using absolutist interpretation bullshit to rebuke a concept. too TBP style for my taste. However, for RP arguments, I do find it easi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/14 12:08 PM
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beta is providership traits. He is the giver. Too much beta is a loser and a door-mat. In contrast, alpha is leadership qualities. Somebody who displays high value, or traits that are valued by women, excepting those of provider-ship. Instead, he is the person who takes. Attention, validation and often resources. Alpha and beta can refer to a man who exhibits alpha/beta behaviors (more alpha tendancies than beta or vice versa), but usually used to describe individual behaviors themselves. On the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/14 09:35 AM
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How attractive a woman would have to minimally be before I'd consider committing? Not very. In fact, she shouldn't be downright ugly, that's it. I'm a simple guy. I have had one of the best relationships of my life with a plain-faced average girl. I would have committed to her. For life. But sadly, by circumstance, I never got to. She represents the 50th percentile in terms of attractiveness IMO. That said, it gets harder and harder to sell the deal when she's not physically attractive. i.e. she…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/14 04:36 AM
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Despite you utterly ignoring the crux of my comment(first para) lemme say this: Look, I'm not going to sit here and search through the web finding evidence to prove to you the notion that people en-masse accosted and criticized the man/his shirt till he apologized in tears. You can believe what you like what these feminists did or didn't do. All I know is, the Philae Lander touched down on November 12th. For me, its now Nov 17. So within the span of 5 days, there was bitching, there was incompre…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/14 09:55 PM
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like RSD Julian. I've done stuff like he has but I'd hate if someone messed with my visa.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/14 07:51 PM
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Taylor must be being a touch too sensitive. After all, we're just having a media shit-storm about him and his shirt the first time the awkward, sometimes clueless nerd ever got popular in his life. The zenith of his career-defining labour, mind you. Until he was possibly reprimanded and pushed by ESA to publicly say something about this mess. The article's been updated twice following criticism. I expect it followed more from the headline earlier, reading like any other feminist gossip piece. Ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/14 07:50 PM
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Most males are below average by default for most women, a good chunk of the remainder are average, while a remaining minute portion are "good looking". This is because for all of human history, (including today) what a woman requires from her mate has never been just looks. So only outstanding is actually "good looking". i.e. His genes are worth it even if he can't/won't provide anything else. For the rest of us, when he demonstrates an abundance of other attractive traits, most women just sudde…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/14 05:55 PM
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Allow me to butt in with my own interpretation because I'm not sure his explanation will convey what you're not getting: We all hate MRAs right? Well, the only thing worse than an MRA is a feminist. We're just learning to treat them the same. You are going to encounter this treatment everywhere. See, you did just state that this episode (which is factually about this man's shirt being representative of discrimination in science) was an opportunity to have a reasonable conversation on the "issue"…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/14 05:42 PM
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For example, you said 23 as your lower age limit and you're only 25. Imagine 18-22 year old men. They have to compete with men who have careers, bigger, stronger, experienced etc. for EVERY girl over 18. Although most girls 18-22 have no problem dating guys the same age, they also have no problem dating older too. So it's difficult for young guys. Just like when women hit "the wall", it's harder to compete with young women. Yin and Yang. good explanation ♂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/14 01:41 PM
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Typically, they're much more generous in favour of other things. A man who is not physically attractive can still turn her on. A woman generally cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/14 01:35 PM
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I acutely hate it when someone embarrasses themselves in front of me. Funnily enough, that is another thing I often notice. Men do not react to someone embarrassing themselves. They do not react viscerally to awkward people. While women really notice and react to the break in the smoothness of the social dance. Moreover, they try to distance themselves from it. Awkwardness only exists if its noticed. Guys will laugh at the weirdness and include it as normal. Doing something crazy or saying somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/14 09:48 AM
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This article is titled wrong. Rather than "4 Ways We're Programmed to Think Women Aren't Funny" it should actually be "3 Reasons Women Aren't As Funny and 1 Reason Why we Justifiably Presume They Aren't". That aside, I found an interesting little taste of BP mentality in there for you all: So the next time you hear a man complain that women aren't funny, remind him that it's because men are pretty self-centered and egotistical in the humor department. Or don't, and cross him off your friend list…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/14 10:59 AM
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Fuck no. Women think they are but they're retarded in terms of humour. They're not even usually very interesting. They live safe boring lives and have few original thoughts. So much so, that making her feel funny... feel interesting is IMO is one of the best forms of game. See, you can be a clown all you want, but romance is about participation. Interpersonal chemistry... a connection... not just you showing off and her being in admiration for you. Though that can certainly work too, but its not…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/14 10:43 AM
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I think the point is that in our view, this is reality. We don't love to say negative things about women. Its just that there are negative things to say, and no one is saying them, so we're the only one who do. I genuinely feel that is the reason, for me at least. And this happens because a distinctly femi-centric discourse that's feel-good as opposed to realistic dominates all discussion. In fact, I would say that you love to assume all things about women that put them in a positive light. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/14 02:51 AM
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Men do not derive support in the same way women do. They derive it from a feeling of admiration and being seen as capable and in control. They solve the problem at hand not caring much about the route to achieve it, in order to show their capability. Support for a man means being seen as virile, sexually desirable and respected. Not any faux-therapy session with a woman where he exposes his feelings and becomes more vulnerable. More vulnerability may in fact be what is driving the harm husbands …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/14 02:39 AM
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Realism, practicality and pragmatism trumps any perceived ego benefits. You do not deserve anything by virtue of what you are. The only immutable law is that of ability. There is no alpha without ability to lead. That is the definition of the word by red pill. What leader leads except by manipulation? Hell, let me use you as a way to point out why you're being silly. You are applying manipulation even here. You are engaging in a very transparent attempt to pander to us using your imagined(or ske…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 08:53 AM
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Not you. Whoever linked the original thread. I reported it to a reddit admin. They informed TRP mods and took down many of the offending posts. There was also a bunch of BPers shadow-banned just now. Having your opinion and say is OK. Forcing it down the other's throat is not. I'd advise TBP to be more careful next time. On the thread topic: His opinion is predicated on manipulation being inherently bad, in any and all circumstances. A laughable concept for small-minded people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 04:46 AM
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That is a clear as day fucking case of brigading.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/14 08:31 AM
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Dude, look at this entire comment chain I've linked you tons of facts already. Many of them easily dismissable and not relevant. Perception is important because of what it leads to. I'm talking about perception here. In this convo only. A realistic distinguishing of roles, biologically determined or not, seems to be impossible for you, IMHObecause it doesn't flatter the female gender in your view. So you want to fix that via attaching disposability of every other kind within a very specific disc…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 07:58 PM
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somehow you always make men's sacrifices out to be more noble or valuable than the sacrifices of women aargh. cuitter, you're impossible. you know lets play a game. you tell me about some aspect of reality that pertains to men that paints men in a very bad light. Makes them seem ignoble or something. See if I give a shit. This is the difference between you and me. You are arguing some phantom ego problem of yours. Not facts. But a phrasing of facts. While I really don't care what character it pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 06:35 PM
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I am no military historian but it seems most ancient battles didn't involve many casualties due to small population size, limited weaponry and the fact that in the medieval era at least soldiers were more focused on getting ransoms than killing Pan-historically, most men died of unnatural causes before ever having children. lots more girls survived. i think that says quite a bit. For war itself (which does not comprise the entirety of male disposability) all casualties do not and never did come …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 05:53 PM
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I'm sorry, how is that at all different? Women were expected to "die in the line of duty" Different duties.which is the point. this is just rephrasing it.* this argument is done here. drops mic *By rephrasing, I mean you're trying to reduce a difference in perceived nobility in the sacrifices of men and women. I nor anyone with a brain cares about that. They're just different roles, and that has practical ramifications. In the way you and I live and behave. In the issues MRA dumbfucks care about…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 05:25 PM
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I bookmarked this earlier because I couldn't keep up with the message lengths. Though I still had things to say. So instead of conceding, I just thought I'd say it later. Through that I think I may have done us both a favour; I forgot what it was. That said, I'm still glad though that we have come to an agreement that male disposability is expected and occurs as a matter of choice whereas female disposability has largely been confined to childbirth. The point you made pretty much is what we were…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 03:24 PM
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Good answer. But unlearning social mores when they don't serve you can be very advantageous. And certainly not all careers require it, for advancement nor hiring. Children also do not need a marital contract. They need two present and close parents. I also wouldn't go comparing the marital contract to sex.
/r/TheRedPill11/11/14 07:22 AM
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I've just been informed that trpbot is in working order again. So, I'll hold up what I said about you needing to post this on TRP. I'm surprised it wasn't more prominent on its own actually. Really comprehensive, well-thought out post. ♂ Maybe preaching to the choir effect? In any case, I've linked to it a few times and probably will again. Thanks
/r/TheRedPill11/11/14 06:40 AM
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Why is being considerate considered "beta"? Beta is defined as providership qualities. It is the giver. Not the taker. Too much beta is a loser and a doormat. In contrast, alpha is leadership qualities. They are not mutually exclusive. You are making it a dichotomy when it isn't. When TRP says "beta" it means person with predominantly beta qualities. Check the glossary. Here's a good post on it in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 06:15 AM
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Here's a question for you: Why even get married? Just convince a good plate to be your LLTR. This may or may not work depending on common law marriage in your area.
/r/TheRedPill11/11/14 05:36 AM
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Your opinion may be viewed as incorrect by a minority or majority of people here, but at least if you put some damn thought behind it, there's no reason to delete it. I automatically mentally mark anyone whinging about "being censored" as an idiot unless they show otherwise. I do this based on the countless people on PPD, or even TRP itself, who bitch on and on about how they were deleted. And when someone actually asks them to link to the post that got them deleted/banned... its almost always s…
/r/TheRedPill11/11/14 02:54 AM
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Most of it is behind the paywall of his site. There are hundreds of videos in there. A lot of it is also on youtube(demos, other gets taken down due to copyright claims) or torrentable. Here's one though from the last thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlWrFgIR6CU
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/14 01:56 PM
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Dread didn't always have a name. It is the default state of being for a man with options. It is part of their inarticulable charm which they struggle to express but can't. When you put it down in words, or try and nurture this aura on purpose, and suddenly it irks people. Better to just operate in silence. There are no consequences to dread.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/14 08:38 PM
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While I do think you're a minority, let me put it like this and you tell me if I'm right: Amatuerism from a male resolves your feelings of insecurity; it gives you a rational peace of mind to pursue him. He is cute for other reasons. i.e. he was cute before he was an ametuer. In comparison, amatuerism from women can induce sexual desire. The very ways of moving sexily, of flirting for women, are predicated on coyness and innocence. Combined with sex appeal via looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/14 09:58 AM
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This being purplepilldebate, this will become highly controversial for some reason. Mostly women who feel entitled to receiving commitment no matter what. But honestly, I think it is worth thinking about. What's the point of exclusivity if she's not even interested in you? Exclusivity here de-facto serves to do nothing more than entrap you. And keep you unhappy and celibate. And desperately forced to play to her whims to fix it. What a wonderful image of love. One endlessly gives love, and resou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/14 09:37 AM
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more similar than different Naive. This is not meant to say that differences and subtleties don't matter and should be ignored. Its meant to say that the similarities are enough for us to work and live together. We are more similar than different. Of course, we are. We're human. But we are not equal, you and I. Not in any sense, except a social compromise where the law tries to treat us the same. And oftentimes not even then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/14 08:29 AM
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if something comes along that completely shatters their experiences, they'll make excuses for that. Exactly. I made a lengthy reply earlier where I went into how RP wants to pre-emptively filter those close-minded pseudo-intellectual people. We don't want to converse with them. RP is advised to be read for open minds(which should go without saying for most things, but nowadays in a politically correct world, some subjects have reflexive guilt programmed into people to even think about). You can …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 04:23 PM
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You're hilarious. You can mentally dance away any inconvenient fact. Even literally hundreds of potential girls of which none are coming forth. Guy must be quite the gangster if not even one has. Also, as a hobbyist assaulter of women, I disagree. I have a lot of insight. because you are being ignorant and offensive. In any case, coming from you, that's a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 02:09 PM
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That was not the question being asked. He asked why his rejection of TRP was being questioned. I said "because you're on a debate sub". This is a whole new question. And I'll answer: It is not limited to the less savory tenets of TRP. There's a long-time RP user called Evolved_Red who stated on occasion that he "doesn't condone PUArtistry". Hell, he replied to me just yesterday. Imagine that, a RP user who rejects PUA. Yet in my view, he is as RP as I am. There's lots of users who disregard RP b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 08:45 AM
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Its loaded questions like this that really compel me not to answer. Why don't you try again?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 08:36 AM
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Well, first. Because I don't like RSD. Too gimmicky. Second, I'm not on anyone's team. I side with RP on this debate because I often agree with the ideas. Not because I have any inherent loyalty to that sub. I don't agree with RSD's. I want people to have the freedom to learn. However they want. So I think RSD should exist in Australia. But I don't want people like RSD to be given unnatural popularity and be made the foremost name in the area. I think there are far better options to learn than t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 08:17 AM
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Why should i be rooting for him? I'm not on any stupid team. I'm red because I agree with the ideas. I am not automatically aligned with every pickup artist out htere. http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2lki8q/comment_on_julien_in_japanese_culture/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 08:12 AM
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Be less condescending when stalking me, love. And make less assumptions. I might consider replying to you then.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 08:10 AM
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while at the same time often vehemently rejecting that BP experiences aren't true do we? I honestly see that from BP more than anything. or that there must be some RP truth behind it? if its there, its there. if its not, its not. RPers hear a story in a debate sub explicitly intended to convey a point, of course they discuss it and their doubts. can you blame them? hell, we like thinking about this stuff. If you dont want our judgement, don't submit it to us on a debate sub(like the dozens of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 07:08 PM
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Very well put. i wonder about your htoughts on this guy though: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2laxxo/why_cat_calling_is_a_beta_activity/cltdnx0 A natural evolution of your argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 06:39 PM
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Your homeword; read "way of the superior man" by david deida. It'll help. I don't care how you get it. Pirate it if you're poor. I did not say you are thinking of absolutes, i was talkign to the other poster. im going to bookmark this and reply to her later too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 06:34 PM
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Crimes are crimes according to law; it doesn't matter whether the victim here "wanted" it or not. I began my earlier message with "Listen to yourself". I'd do it again if I could without being repetitive. Yes, it does matter. Somebody needs to press charges. Somebody needs say I am victimized, here's the video for proof. I want justice. That is the law. End of discussion. You do not get to look at his actions and say the behaviours of these consenting adults looks unacceptable to me, porgiamor, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 06:16 PM
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Normally, I would want to agree. He shouldn't have to apologize. However, what he expressed regret over wasn't RSD in general. Not at all. It was specifically that video of Julian pushing Japanese girls into his crotch. Which having been to Tokyo, I really can see progressing to blatant sexual assault without so much as a peep from the girl. From my short stay, I might have a skewed view, but from my experience, I can say that in Julian's videos, he was towing a very grey line which most foreign…
/r/TheRedPill07/11/14 06:07 PM
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Absolutely right. Part of the shock value and character of the red pill exists for the very same purpose. To not only communicate the truth, but create a mindset that can put it to work. As a former tutor, one thing I always did to get hired at good institutions is that unlike most other private tutors, I guaranteed some measure of excellence that the kids themselves could be proud of, and happy with. Not just their parents. And for that I didn't just teach the syllabi. I taught them why and how…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 05:59 PM
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We actually don't. If a single girl stepped up, said he raped/assaulted her. I absolutely agree he should stand trial. And then be jailed if found guilty. I do not condone mob mentality. And I do not agree his tactics(besides the head in crotch thing) are too aggressive. Mostly I'm just sad that this stupid uproar is going to hand him and RSD LITERALLY hundreds of thousands of dollars. If not million+(I am not joking, this is a very pessimistic estimate of what he'll gain from this long-term).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 05:44 PM
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Like I said: as of yet, no one's been willing to press charges. Btw, he's legal in 50 countries, but has a visa suspended in Australia. No biggie to him. In fact, he's laughing all the way to the bank. His name is going viral. Exposure to PUA is going to reach dejected and desperate incels everywhere. His material is going to sell like never before. And his venues are going to be full everywhere. No social justice movement has the kind of attention span to keep up with him. 1 months of taking a …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 05:29 PM
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Yep. Hundreds of girls. The ones on YouTube aren't even the tip of the iceberg. He actually runs courses. Where apparently, his customers get a written explanation of a principle and then they get to see him do it. On multiple women. This has been accumulating for years. But as of yet, no one's been willing to press charges.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 05:11 PM
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You need at least one girl out of the hundreds he's fucked to say he raped or assaulted them for that. Or some other case to be brought against him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 04:50 PM
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They don't know anything different. Try and imagine you're in their shoes for a moment. View it from their position. Blue pill guys live in a world where everything related to love is unknowable. Where humans work on some unknowable magic, and sometimes they magically get corrupt. But you can never know when. Because who knows how or why it happens. So you wouldn't take sensible actions. You're clueless about why its happening and you don't know any. So you always pick the safe, easy, lazy optio…
/r/TheRedPill07/11/14 03:59 PM
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Approach with an open mind. Read to understand. Take what you need. Discard what doesn't apply to your experience. I feel like something like this should be disclaimer on the red pill. inb4, "that's only self-improvement + lifting. what else is there?" crowd. why are you even here?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 03:21 PM
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#FuckFeministsInTheAssAroundTheWorld Touch my visa.
/r/TheRedPill07/11/14 03:15 PM
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Have been in Tokyo. Agree 100%. Guy is a douchebag and an ass. And I'm not saying that because I'm jealous(as some guy was kind enough to inform me), but because he's towing a very grey line he might not even realize is there. And if he does, he really is an ass. But this is still the one thing I remotely consider "unacceptable" from him. And for that, let him be prosecuted by Tokyo for it. Let one of the girls bring forward a case. He doesn't deserve the Streisand effect over this shit.
/r/TheRedPill07/11/14 02:30 PM
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We are not a sovereign democracy. Australia is. Thus, if the guy committed a crime, let him be prosecuted for it. And given due process. Not be subject to the whims of a mob who doesn't like what he said in a tweet. Let one of the dozens, if not hundreds, of women he has on video come forward and file charges against him. In this media storm, how can they not be believed? Hell, if they won't. Let someone build a legal case and prosecute him. I'm not faulting anyone for booting him from Australia…
/r/TheRedPill07/11/14 02:22 PM
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Maybe they were embarrassed. Listen to yourself. You are so caught up in this mob mentality... this blind feminist mindset of assigning blamelessness to women for exercising their own judgement that you that you will resort to believing they were all uniformly embarrassed before you consider the possibility that this is what they wanted. There is no concept of benefit of the doubt for the male. Whether she complains on video or not. Whether she seems to be enjoying it or not. Whether she reports…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 02:18 PM
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While I agree, 95% of game isn't about jabbing insecurities. I think this is the central disconnect between what RP types who are actively reading, learning and trying game will interpret from u/Reginleifer post and what TBPers will. In particular, TBP people imagine that everything relevant on the subject they know, while what's left is the minority. The fact is, the infamous things like dread game are the tip of the iceberg. They're "interesting". Its what we debate because it is what you fixa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 01:55 PM
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Here's where I don't agree. What is Blanc to Diecke? Except competition, I mean. Because of Blanc, his field is suddenly under rigorous attention. Considering the circumstances, he needs to be a shrewd businessman. The facts are this: People are looking for blood, and with Julian out of the picture, he's likely next. At the same time, with all the uproar, there's probably no better time to be in the coaching business. Repressed betas who see Julian's success probably secretly want something like…
/r/TheRedPill07/11/14 12:41 PM
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Why should the minister overly investigate this? Its easy political capital. Same for all the hotels. In fact, for them its even simpler. Its just business. They can either choose to face people's anger(not to mention protests), while righteously defending some sketchy PUA prick they don't like anyway or... they can bask for a little while in the mob's adulation. There's no reason to over-think this. edit; ahaha, looks like the immigration minister who cancelled the visa really did need some goo…
/r/TheRedPill07/11/14 12:33 PM
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in the years he's been visiting and re-visiting countries, they didnt make a fuss about his visa? No police ever say he was wanted? Never had to face trial? No newspaper reported that this mini-celebrity is wanted for a crime? i could believe this if he was 2 month old chump but he's been at it for years. with a lot of attention scrutinizing him for all that time. any of those women could've spoken out in public too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 12:10 PM
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Alright. Decent point. I concede about Japanese women. I agree they're generally very bad at being upfront. But outrage over blanc extends overseas, to dozens of other countries he works in, and existed long before he started the crotch rubbish. Mostly I really do think it is the PC crowd not being able to handle their mental dissonance. Here is someone who is such a sleezebag misogynist. He is logically very disgusting. He says things that I don't like about women. And yet women love him. They …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 10:57 AM
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how come? you're well-spoken and you make good points. granted, i dont remember many in specific but there's your post on asking not asking the fish advice a few days ago on PPD. i've been divisive on that issue, but you had a refreshing take. if you post that on RP, i'm sure you'd be well on your way. posting high-quality stuff consistently (and unfortunately, also being on the same page as the management) is the way to get endorsed on /r/TRP. basically anyone who takes the mantra "Be the chang…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 10:30 AM
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Considering the media attention and the storm that's highlighting literally every move this guy makes, and people trying to reach the girls he's slept with... it is strange not a single woman has come forward against him. There should at least be 2 dozen potential "rape victims" based on just video footage alone in the past few weeks/months... yet nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 09:45 AM
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I love racist jokes! Wing Wing Wing Herro? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 06:35 AM
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Can we skip to the part where you tell me why? sigh, do you guys ever not circlejerk?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 06:33 AM
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oh come on. Plenty of PUAs operate in daytime. Its not like there's any evidence to say this stuff only works on drunk girls. anyone can kiss-close in a park too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 05:26 AM
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I doubt anyone is crazy about the pill until they try it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 05:23 AM
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Try it. This is all I'll say to this. This is a case of you making theoretical estimations and preaching to people who've actually been there and telling them what its like, when you've seen nothing but the map. Theoretical estimations don't always hold up in practice, man. Take this anecdote as you will: a small portion of women reject these types of advances. and they usually seem neurotic while doing so. they often apologize later. Most of them are very receptive and play up the anti-slut def…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 05:15 AM
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Yep. Comply right past the bouncers, the girls they're with(aussie chicks always roam in packs), the cab driver and straight into his hotel room. All the while laughing and giggling and playing tonsel hockey And then comply via calling his fake number again and again. Just until they can get away. They really are good girls underneath, right? gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 05:08 AM
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Yeah, that video really showed all of that. Pressure and impaired judgement. They really are good girls underneath.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 05:07 AM
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And? Nothing. I think it just provided relevant context to your emotioned appeals telling people how relationships work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 04:40 AM
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why do people make racist jokes? Hell, I make sexist jokes time to time too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 04:13 AM
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no.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 04:12 AM
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I know you're being sarcastic, but they really have. They're infantalizing women by pretending that in the moment, they object to this. That they don't want Julian doing these things to them. And you literally force this image. Despite what any of the actual evidence(videos, photos, audio, etc) tell you. Despite what their actions tell you. Basically, you're protecting them from their inability to make "good" choices. By both celebrating from big bad julian and white-washing what happened as "ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 03:58 AM
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Why would I need to represent the views and sentiments of the world? The claim was that rape is taken seriously by everyone so all I needed was one example of a group that didn't take it seriously. EDIT: You know what? Should have stopped reading at this pedantic bullshit. go away. you don't have a point unless you can interpret things in absolutes. you depend on loopholes where someone forgot to put in a disclaimer from that. this is what you're showing. I'm pointing out objective evidence that…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 02:17 AM
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Hey, on a unrelated note, aren't you a teenager?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 12:58 PM
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How is it circle jerking or a strawman to point out to somebody who claims that sexual assault is always taken seriously that their own subreddit doesn't conform to their views of the world? because rp is the example of choice to represent the views and sentiments of the world? In other words, he can't claim that rape is taken seriously by people whilst being subbed to TRP that claims date rape isn't real. He can claim whatever he wants. You are reducing him to his subscription because either yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 12:47 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/X7qiovw.png
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 02:38 AM
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Its not a contest. But interestingly, he probably does. If he's male, he's more at risk of all three.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 02:37 AM
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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/when-it-comes-to-catcalling-sydneysiders-are-a-far-cry-from-the-new-gawkers/story-fni0cx12-1227110190297?nk=2914e5f9bc51880cb74b80ea9dcdfc1d Results of the 10 hour walk in Australia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXdMAXaMicc&feature=share And new Zealand. Sorry, grid. But you should move. this really does seem to be a localized thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 04:15 PM
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Was the correction necessary? We both knew what I meant. They are the exact same things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 01:38 AM
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I'm not going to sit here and prove to you it happens. Travel to the Southside of Chicago. It happens. I don't doubt it happens. And never did. LIke I said, I've been on the receiving end. The point of the OP is to call out a blatantly fraudulent hype machine that feminists have been feeding on incessantly for the past week.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 12:54 AM
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Why do people keep saying that she's white Probably because I'm chinese and you all look the same to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 12:28 AM
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Good analysis. And as an aside, turns out you were right too. Those are the areas. ♂ https://medium.com/message/that-catcalling-video-and-why-research-methods-is-such-an-exciting-topic-really-32223ac9c9e8
/r/TheRedPill04/11/14 11:19 PM
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Cat-call strangers? Nah. Cat-call women I know? Standard doctrine. but then it becomes teasing... and that hardly ever backfires.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/14 10:48 PM
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But I'm black and have walked up and down Harlem and have probably received more catcalls than that chick. Over the same day/10 hours though? And to be honest. Poorer women are more receptive to that approach than middle class or higher women. The source of what makes good mornings creepy. I honestly wondered what the hell cheery greetings were doing in that video.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/14 09:55 PM
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This is true and good to keep in mind. The people who fantasize about being raped don't necessarily want to be raped IRL. Nobody said this. Its a theoretical position based on the question "does a fantasy speak of a desire?" And "how can you fulfill that desire?" The conclusion is not as simple as this. Create a ravishment experience. Not rape random women on the street. And yes, women do want to be raped by a high value man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/14 08:46 PM
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Well, you can always do with a laugh-track when your jokes suck. I wish I had a TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/14 08:41 PM
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Ironic you say that, since I've seen many RPers claim that men did most of it. I have never heard a feminist say it's all due to the women. Civilization has a material component. As well as a human component. Men and women play different roles for both. The hypergamic need of the female for value drives civilization forward. Family and sex incentivizes everything for most males. Meanwhile, women nurture the human component, with the help of being provided for. I suck at words, but that's the gis…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/14 08:30 PM
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Let's see. What should we offer today. >a refutation >an alternate view >other intelligent conversation >circlejerking and snark Circlejerking and snark it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/14 08:24 PM
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I like that you actually made up a number range to make your guesses seem more scientific. I like that all it takes is a number range before you assume I'm trying to be scientific.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/14 06:40 PM
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Its good you dont specify gender because they both played an equal role, despite what feminism may have you believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/14 06:31 PM
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Damn, that is accurate. In fact, I got the sense of us playing that static game so much that I decided to reverse the roles. i.e. if one of us is a mental patient, it may as well be them. Here is my own pseudo-intellectual psychological analysis of my questioner. Apparently it doesn't work in reverse :(
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/14 05:49 PM
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More women work in those positions than men, but women do not overwhelmingly work in those positions. And the study I linked to was in a corporate environment, meaning that regardless of role, women face the same problem. In the tech industry? I guarantee you there is a gender bias in the positions men and women take. The engineers are overwhelmingly men for example. I also read the source article cited in your link, and the author does not specify job positions. She actually admit that she info…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/14 03:43 PM
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reviews of men and women doing the same job Nope. Read the cited source. The author does not specify job positions. She actually admit that she informally asked men and women to volunteer their reviews. The reviews she got were almost all positive(almost no one who did their job badly gave theirs), and came from 25 different companies, from large to downright tiny. The jobs were not controlled for, and it is not specified what environment these people worked. So we can assume most were variable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/14 02:41 PM
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No. See, the problem with this is that you assume there aren't nuances to aggressiveness. Aggressiveness towards a goal, is not the same as aggressiveness towards your employees or coworkers, and the differences are very subtle because both are directed at the same people. Leadership and charisma and the qualities pertinent to command cannot be taught. Men generally grow up in an environment where they automatically know when to assert leadership and work within a hierarchy, and I'd say its beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/14 02:28 PM
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is the definition of pseudo-science To classify something as pseudo-science, the thing you are criticizing must first claim to be scientific. If they do not claim to be scientific, and are instead merely referencing science, then they cannot be said to be pseudo-scientific. You can however, criticize the sources used for their argument as being "pseudo-scientific". To classify those as pseudo-scientific, you have to attack their scientific method. Not showing how the scientific method is flawed …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/14 01:24 PM
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In the book, "Way of the Superior Man" by David Deida, the author approaches the problem of explaining RP dynamics and the over-generalization in a unique way. Instead of saying "women and men", he often adds a disclaimer saying both men and women can be feminine and masculine. But for the purposes of brevity, he will assume that in his examples, he is talking about men who are in their masculine, and women who are in their feminine. The characters in his lessons are interchangeable. And another…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/14 01:06 PM
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Women overwhelmingly work in positions where they are supposed to deal with people. Their personality is a part of their performance. So I don't believe it is quite as unfair as they make it seem. Though, I will acknowledge that it happens to an extent, even where it is for the same job. I'll say even I've been guilty of having done this. But IMO, I honestly don't think its because I notice bad attitudes in men less. Or those in women more. Its because men generally keep their personalities to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/14 11:46 AM
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Everyone thinks they are more competent than they really are. But nowadays that interacts with social justice movements in an interesting way. 60-70% of all claimed discrimination based on gender happens when a person with a vagina isn't good enough and they're given a loudspeaker to bitch about it in a self-flattering way. A decent portion of the remainder is when those hiring are sick of the majority of women and bet away from that demographic. i.e. they do not give the competent women a chanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/14 10:57 AM
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I've dissented and gotten flaired for it. And hell, you're on the radar for it too. The purpose of the flair is to guide, and I think a lot of RPers could learn from you and a few others.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/14 02:33 PM
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I don't even pay attention to your orange-reds but if you read them carefully, I hardly believe you check what you write before you send it to me. "We don't discourage dissent we have a well-defined list of things that we ban for" Other wise known as rules? The internet is fully of cults. "We pick only certain feeeemales to have relationships with" You don't? I know you guys think you're being really smart and dealing with idiots, but maybe you need to look in the mirror to once in a while. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/14 02:29 PM
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Sigh. Every stupid claim you've made so far here or in other threads is just you being a standard grade A TBPer. Otherwise known as a pedantic tool. Over here, you are again trying your hardest to nitpick some detail while flinging bitter insults because you have nothing intelligent to say on any other matter. To regain your dignity maybe but again looking exceptionally foolish(to everyone but yourself). Please tell me why the word "popular" cannot be used ironically. Please tell me in the sense…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/14 02:27 PM
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To the general extent, yes. But it is progress from a few months ago. I remember at least a dozen arguments where all psychological differences don't exist/are completely insignificant. And biological differences cannot be generalized(even strength).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/14 01:59 AM
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That's because we stop short of the details. Also, do you ever not circlejerk? :P
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/14 01:44 AM
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To be fair, me and you probably differ on the extent of the psychological differences. And the implications. Full disclosure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/14 01:34 AM
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I would also say that you are thinking of TRP in absolutes. Which is not how we apply it in practice. TRP in moderation can and does lead to healthy relationships. A bunch of us are in ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/14 01:17 AM
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I believe men and women are equal. In terms of value and how they should be treated under the law. But I do believe they are different biologically. And psychologically. These aren't incompatible beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 10:12 PM
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I'm not saying being female is a novelty. Nor am I implying catcalling isn't a thing. I'm saying the frequency in that video; 100 instances in 10 hours of "God Bless You", "Good Morning", "Hi, beautiful" and other catcalling could be aided by by being an attractive and white woman walking through a impoverished black neighbourhood. Which could be a novelty. I'm also of the opinion that the makers of that video, since they're asking for donations and such, tried for those circumstances on purpose…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 10:06 PM
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I don't know about harassment. But I'll share an example a bit more egregious than this one. On the RP sub, some members who live in NY native related that they recognize a lot of the streets the original actress walked on. And, they are typically poor areas. Places they think actually don't see a lot of white chicks. Now, again, I have never been to New York, so I can't verify. But I am biased to find this theory plausible based on my own experiences travelling elsewhere. Background: I work for…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 08:45 PM
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Why not popular? TRP got 6 million unique hits last time I checked in June. I'd say its a pretty popular topic for its size. meaningful dissent TBP bullshit. top keks indeed. You do realize you're welcome to address the given answers and still use those arguments, right? As an example, you can use the NAWALT fallacy, as long as you do realize it is just an anecdote, and is not automatically as central to our worldview, as our anecdotes are to your worldview. Do you see what I'm saying? I would n…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 08:15 PM
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If you can't understand the point of an extremely popular sub banning or warning based on knee-jerk spamming 10 tired fallacious unoriginal thought-terminating clichés (posted by 10,000 other people before you), you can circlejerk why that is proof we're a cult on TBP all day. Shoo. And if you have that childish urge to get in your snarky last word devoid of reasoning again... then I'll be generous... I'll let you. Go ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 06:35 PM
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Most of them were hi, hello good mornings and god bless yous. i could stand to be a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 02:10 PM
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I would like to request purge week back please. I missed the last one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 01:55 PM
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I did explain. Where? You're really incoherent with your explanations. The closest I can tell is you spoke of options to pursue. Maybe you're saying you have pepper spray? Or a stun-gun? Or you could call the police? All of these are power equalizers. They prove my point more than anything. They still only respect the power equalizers. I'm asking for the mechanism that makes this because you're a woman, and not because you're a weak target with something they want. Do you think its because there…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 01:36 PM
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How is it tied to gender? You are not explaining any mechanism. Nor are you refuting what I said(correlation vs causation). I might understand if you explained rather than saying it over and over.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 01:07 PM
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They already decided not to respect the reply. See, many would turn back at being told she isn't feeling it. Those who would not turn back, assess whether there is a consequence for not turning back.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 01:00 PM
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I don't understand your point. You are basically powerless. Meanwhile, you backed by your boyfriend do pose a plausible risk of retaliation. There is no universal morality. Except that which you enforce. Your earlier position of "They respect the guy, not the girl" is wrong. Or at least, is a correlation vs causation fallacy. Its not "guy vs girl". Its when one is choosing a target, they respect strength as a deterrent, not weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 12:56 PM
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Yeah, don't be an idiot. I don't see what's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 12:49 PM
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Good to know?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 12:49 PM
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Just like any schoolyard bully picks on the smallest, weakest target. The one with no friends. It has nothing to do with gender. Aggression must respect the strong. Not doing so is a way to end up dead. Clearly you need to re-read Sun-Tzu.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/14 04:44 PM
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The most loyal members (the “true believers”) feel there can be no life outside the context of the group Just like people who drive cars and don't look back on horses. For some reason. Just like feminism, am I right? Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members. Not quite but I think the "don't talk about TRP to anybody" and "only certain feeeeeemales are worth having relationships with" bump up on this. You're stretching it now. But considering that …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/14 04:34 PM
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Oh yes. I'm always waiting for someone to make an........insightful post.
/r/TheRedPill01/11/14 01:58 PM
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It always happened and it always will. I can't tell you how many times I've scored walking a girl somewhere though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/14 01:52 PM
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Move on from your ex, mate. Stop thinking about the past. Fixate yourself on the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/14 08:44 AM
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The first thing. But I haven't had my mind changed on anything yet. BPers refuse to state why they believe things are as they are. They don't actually have any justifications or functional explanations. They just insist on spouting what they believe. If anything, I find that a more compelling reason to be red than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/14 08:42 AM
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because he's George Clooney and everything works for George Clooney. he's a celebrity that everybody knows. There is literally no other reason. You're delusional. His charm. His confidence. His looks. His very gaze. His tone of voice. That has nothing to do with it? Literally no other reason? Oh, but you've left an out for yourself. Forcing it to work via manipulation is what makes anything else work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/14 07:58 AM
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Anything sounds cult-like if you put your mind to it. And I see you're doing just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/14 06:24 AM
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Oh, and was the link the oldest teenager in the room one Yeah. That one. Its hyperbole. The principle being, anyone who takes the subject of "women" to be something sacred you cannot take lightly, is going to be infuriated by it. While the rest will recognize hyperbole, and perhaps even see the point to it. The former will leave(vast majority) or be biased to post in ways the mods can spot. The latter is going to stick around for curiousity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/14 06:22 AM
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Sounds more like business than a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 08:04 PM
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Thank /u/redpillschool and the others(or better yet use /r/thanktrp). I came around on Oct 2013, I think. Before that, I used to lurk a bunch of other sites, since 2009-ish. I even helped do a few translations
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 05:13 PM
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I think the red pill is just getting started. From what I know of the mod team of red pill, and my own observations, we're intending for something quite different than you might think. And no, the present iteration of TRP is not it. We're playing the long game. To understand what I mean by that, a little bit of a background on what TRP is, is required. The red pill started early 2013 as an experiment, hitting its first 1000 in mid Jan of that year. At that time, the manosphere was something you …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 04:22 PM
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My first thought too. But this explanation doesn't at all make sense for Germany, Belgium and Austria as examples. And none of those countries are authoritarian, nor do they have significant lack of progress in women's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 09:47 AM
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That's a really bad analogy. Pickpocketing is still stealing. People catcalling you are... stealing your feminine beauty? This is comparable to rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 06:19 AM
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Kony2012
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 04:08 AM
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Ever since that notallmen hashtag went live, its been my go-to explanation for why NAWALT fallacy is something feminists at least should really disagree with. I never really received an answer for why it isn't hypocrisy. This article should be read so that every instance of #NotAllMen is replaced with a NAWALT, and you get RP's sentiments. sidenote; /u/cuittler, can we please define NAWALT in the glossary? It really is incomplete without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 02:51 PM
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That's a simplistic understanding. Don't get me wrong, I dislike feminism's modern first-world iterations as deeply as the next guy. But what you're suggesting is politically non-viable. What you're advocating is a laid-back approach that will be outcompeted every time by a focused, consistent effort. The fact is normal people are busy. And uninformed. They aren't usually fighting for change. And they tend to not realize when they need to take action and tend to not work together very well when …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 02:47 PM
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Even better. And I've encountered a few too. Sounds entitled and duplicitous to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/14 04:42 PM
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I'm thinking an expansion to /r/RedPillWomen might be a good idea. Thoughts, /u/redpillschool? And /u/KidStrangelove?
/r/TheRedPill29/10/14 08:15 AM
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