Halloween night harassment

kinggluejar · 2014-11-01T17:12:28+00:00

The problem is these thirsty fucks do not take no for an answer.

From the women's perspective, the average woman does not have time to sit through and assess each individual situation to determine if she's in danger. Average guy hits on her, she turns him down. Then the next guy, and the next... Eventually it just gets annoying.

From the men's perspective, a lot of women like to play hard to get and a lot of guys assume that's what women are doing when they turn them down. Most of these guys will never even think about raping a woman. but they fail to see it from the woman's perspective.

I have a story. This was during university about 2 years. ago I was at a bus stop waiting on a bus. Older black guy (45-55ish) starts saying hi to every woman that walks by. It's not quite dark outside but it's getting there. Whenever they say hi back he starts getting all excited and whatnot bragging to this fat guy who's reading a book. I tried to point it out to him that he would be perceived as a creepy old dude by most of the women. He just didn't give a fuck. Kept right on going until the bus came. Then he started watching some illuminati videos while we were on the bus.

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Chicken_Dinnerz · 2014-11-01T15:08:03+00:00

Yep. Cat callers respect the guy. Not the girl.

It's fucked up.

Glad you understand now.

MissPearl · 2014-11-01T22:48:08+00:00

Yep. Step outside the visible radius of my Gentleman and I'm considered unattached until proven otherwise.

Some of this is regional- when I was in San Francisco the other month, I swear in some neighbourhoods you'd think me walking down the street was like I was riding a god damn parade float for the way guys idly standing there would blatantly stare and start to move towards you.

It's not usually that bad in Montreal, though what creeps me the fuck out is guys who follow me, either silently or trying to sustain a conversation despite my obvious "Aieeeeeeee!" reaction. Just a week ago I was on the metro and in a blatantly empty area of the car a guy comes up and stands next to my seat so close I could feel his body heat. Doesn't say a word, just keeps standing, clearly aware of me, boxing me between him and the wall with tons of empty seats around us.

mrsamsa · 2014-11-01T11:38:14+00:00

It's awesome that you got a glimpse of what women tend to face on a daily basis but your comment about "bullshit rape charges" seemed a little weird.

If you had some concern or hesitation over the fact that she was so drunk that it's possible that her consent may not be valid, then that wouldn't be a "bullshit rape charge", it'd likely just be standard rape.

Sounds like the chick was into you though, should have grabbed her number to hook up with her later.

ianturpiesmoustache · 2014-11-01T12:45:28+00:00

Just getting home right now its about 3 am. Out with some college kids including some average looking girls. Not babes but not ugly either. They were not dressed even remotely revealing. This is the first time in my life ive actually seem the kind of harassment tbp/feminists are talking about, and I have to admit it is pretty fucking ridiculous. Some really shockingly aggressive approaches and cars following us and shit.

It doesn't happen all the time to all women, but it can be absolutely gross when it does happen. And the more common this behaviour is in general, the more often you'll encounter the tolerable and the overtly aggressive kind.

Got back to their house, she was in my lap, stroking my hair. "Maybe you can be my boyfriend a little longer." "Nope bb, you already have a boyfriend, his name is jack daniels." Laughs from everyone. Time for me to go home, do not want bullshit rape charges.

... this is just painful bragging and random paranoia. I don't know why you would even include this, as it has literally nothing to do with your title or the other content of your post.

Will_Im_Not · 2014-11-03T23:04:43+00:00

I've lived in urban cities for the past several years. Literally the only time a stranger physically confronted me was last year's Halloween. I went to San Francisco and went in drag with some girl friends of mine. When we were done partying and heading back to my friend's place it was just me and her. These drunk guys on the sidewalk came up asking for hugs and being generally obnoxious. One of the guys grabbed her (maybe he was just trying to hug her but was too drunk) and they fell to the ground. I told them to back off and one guy went "Oh shit it's a dude" and they left. It was a really eye-opening experience for me. I lived in Koreatown in LA and felt totally safe walking home drunk by myself at 1AM. But my three sisters have to take extra precautions when in the city, especially by themselves. Add in drunk people and skimpy clothing and you have a real hairy situation. It's really shitty but I try to be aware of my privilege as a tall dude.

babyguineapig · 2014-11-01T11:25:21+00:00

Dare you to dress up as a girl next year and record what happens.

InformalCriticism · 2014-11-01T10:17:25+00:00

So it took you roughly 2 decades to see your first example?

We_Are_Legion · 2014-11-01T13:52:31+00:00

It always happened and it always will. I can't tell you how many times I've scored walking a girl somewhere though.

RedPill115 · 2014-11-07T02:13:13+00:00

This is the first time in my life ive actually seem the kind of harassment tbp/feminists are talking about, and I have to admit it is pretty fucking ridiculous. Some really shockingly aggressive approaches and cars following us and shit. I seriously wanted to fight some of these guys. Do not want go to jail or be a white knight tho. One girl eventually said "fuck it your my boyfriend until we get home." Then put her arm around me and the approaches vanished.

You miss the point though.

If a group was only attacking actual harrassment and catcalling, people wouldn't be offended. Well some minority would be, but most guys would support the idea. Most guys don't like the obnoxious guys who try to barge into our group and make people uncomfortable. Most guys have no personal interest in defending a guy leaning out of cars yelling at a girl on the sidewalk.

This is just the topic that feminism uses to continue the "men villain, women victim" theme. This is the topic that feminism uses to tell women that they should be uncomfortable talking to men they don't know. Seriously. Women will say "I didn't realize that chatty guy was harrassing me until I read about this!" - it's because it wasn't offensive to her before.

Now I'm not talking about super aggressive guy that you are - I'm talking about the guy in the bar who says hi. The guy who's friendly on the sidewalk, but when she gives any indication that she's leaving is polite and continues on his way. The guy who is talking to a her, and her friends aren't getting attention, so they can yell at him for "harassing" her and pretend it's about protecting her from evil men. (This happened to me once, a girl is giving me her phone number while her overweight friend suddenly realizes she's lost the attention and runs up at yells at us).

That's how it works - they start with 1 small topic that is annoying - and they use that as a vehicle for their own other, unrelated topic. With feminism it's:
- "straight man == villain, women == victim"
- attacking and shaming anything that leads to sex and dating (how many girls have you slept with who you never met? 0)
- communicating to girls that they should be scared of any man talking to them who they don't already know, and that it's offensive for a guy to do that
- and a number of other things that I'm to lazy to invest in rewriting. Ever notice how in feminism it's always "men", not "some men" or "a few men"?

That's why there is so many examples of non-harrassment in those videos, guys being friendly. Not that those guys weren't flirting with the girl, but that many of them were simply acting socially normal.

Got back to their house, she was in my lap, stroking my hair. "Maybe you can be my boyfriend a little longer." "Nope bb, you already have a boyfriend, his name is jack daniels." Laughs from everyone. Time for me to go home, do not want bullshit rape charges.

I...can't help but saying this. You actually succeeded with a Blue Pill attitude, then you tossed it away? Lol...I don't know what to say.

You don't have to go all the way to sleeping with a girl in order to get something going with her, but if you turn her down like that she'll usually take it as you "nicely" rejecting her. That is as close as a girl almost ever gets to saying "I want you". Lol, you're mixing the worst of both there - trp bitterness (bullshit rape charges) with blue pill anti-sex naivety (she's had something to drink so she's incapable of making decisions for herself whatsoever!). If she's like having trouble walking, you definitely shouldn't sleep with her. But if she's just buzzed, and she's putting a huge opening out their like that, that's how real people actually start dating.

The last guy I know met a girl at a beach party, had several drinks with her, they made out heavily, didn't sleep together. Yada yada yada, stuff happened, now they're married with 2 kids. (Oh, and now he's putting all this feminist stuff up on facebook...rolls eyes.)

Now maybe you weren't interested in her at all, but you turning her down and leaving would be interpreted by her mostly as you rejecting her "nicely".

Reginleifer · 2014-11-01T15:36:25+00:00

Guys being the more aggressive sex doing a spray and pray approach? Shocker.

Nobody is denying that catcalling happens..... you got to buy a ticket to win the lottery. But does it happen at the rate feminists say it does? Even their best proof so far (10 hrs walking NYC) only has a measly 2 minutes of footage.

That my friend is a percent of one percent of the time outside to put this into perspective...... for a fucking catcall.

If this were a tv show, the producers would go broke trying to sell this chick dick instead of 4 hours of AVON ads. >.>

[deleted] · 2014-11-02T19:31:44+00:00

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Title	Halloween night harassment
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Date	November 1, 2014 9:55 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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