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Huh? Who is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:04 AM
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Love without like is still love. It's just really shitty, difficult love that you don't actually want. Lust is entirely disconnected from this. Good example of this is, not in a romantic context is how parents of addicts who constantly make their lives horrible/difficult still love them in spite of that quite often. The way I'd break it down, love is deep caring and attachment to someone. Like is deriving enjoyment from your time with someone and then making your life actively better. Lust is ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 12:33 AM
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I'm still waiting for more posts about the important pieces of LTR maintenance, the benefits of companionship, and the key ingredients to sustainable and happy relationships. This sub absolutely hates the concept of men being in committed relationships, and it shows in the type of content posted. I've massively scaled back my own participation here precisely because the content of this sub is so absolutely irrelevant to my own life and the challenges/learning moments that I experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 02:47 PM
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Your initial claim was that Asians are the poorest race in NYC. The data I shared directly shows that their median household income actually does outpace the NYC median household income (I believe 67k). Highest poverty rate =/= poorest if there is large wealth inequality within one group that does skew the median heavily (e.g. lots in poverty, lots that are also well off, instead of lots in poverty, and lots that are doing ok, but more working class/not notably well off) If you look at this repo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:28 PM
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I'm pretty sure he's just making shit up. https://furmancenter.org/stateofthecity/view/citywide-and-borough-data Data from here has Asian median income at 71k, above black and hispanic demographics (48k and 45k respectively). Median income for white households is 95k. Asians in NYC as of 2018 also had the highest home ownership rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:12 PM
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Right? Single parenthood in general scales inversely with overall wealth. In middle class+ communities, I'd say that single parents are more likely to be considered outliers than like... Normal. (That is to say, single never married parents, specifically, as divorce still exists) Single parenthood in general is very much something that affects the working class and below, who largely have less overall stability and more tenuous life circumstances. Give working class people more stability and you…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 04:44 PM
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Just by being somewhat fit and having a college education, you'll already be far above average in most places, and arguably somewhat above average in most HCOL cities. Add any type of career accomplishments, special talents, or plus social skills on top of that and this hypothetical person won't struggle in most settings. That being said, I think that things like earning a college degree, building career accomplishments, being involved in arts and culture, and other like items serve to just shif…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:43 AM
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In quite a literal sense, men are more likely to be part of a labor union than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 12:37 AM
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The way I think about it, it's hard to love someone whom you don't actually like.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 07:42 PM
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I'm not going to say spiritual connection because I'm about as spiritual as a pet rock, but the way to maintain a long term relationship is to date someone whom you genuinely like as a person. Yes attraction is a core ingredient, but frankly, if I don't like what that person is about or who they are or how they live their life, not even worth the attempt. To be fair, I think being pragmatic and realizing relationships aren't going to be perfect (even if they are more than worthwhile) is a major …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 03:35 PM
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People on here literally look for any reason to be mad at the world. Nobody gives a fuck honestly, lol. I literally am the furthest thing from fat and I have not been shamed once for how I look, except by other men who have said I am too skinny, which.... big meh.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 09:24 PM
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To be fair, that's entirely because the core PPD demographic idolizes moderately sketchy rich guys for some unknown reason. I honestly don't get it, but it isn't my life either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 08:16 PM
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The SUV was seemingly stolen and they were joyriding through a public park. The way it was set up, you weren't supposed to drive through the area as someone drove in and shot a protestor previously. This was also far later than that and was the reason it got shut down. The whole thing was ridiculous but it wasn't an insurrection. Edit: some context, hard to find anything definitive: https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/hni44w/comment/fxc9m6x/ Anyway, this all could have been averted if SPD …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 12:05 PM
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The most deranged part is thinking that a protest that ended with police evacuating after making up a fake arson threat is an attempted insurrection. The whole fucking CHAZ/CHOP protest was the size of a weekday farmers market, maybe 4 blocks, and not particularly exciting considering you could just stroll right through it end to end. I know people who lived in the area and they were just glad they weren't getting tear gas in their apartments after the police left that zone temporarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 02:22 AM
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Sometimes you just want to be successful for yourself and/or to maintain your lifestyle. Doesn't have to be about signaling status. Can't say I care much about how others view me, except for those whose opinions and judgment I think highly of. In my case, my drive to build a career is almost entirely about maintaining quality of life and standard of living, and not backsliding relative to how I grew up or from what I find comfortable. This wouldn't change even if I wasn't in a relationship now. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 12:32 PM
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You haven't truly lived until you've taken a bus from Skid Row at 11 PM.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:21 AM
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It amazes me how people still totally fail to get the actual fucking meaning of toxic masculinity in PPD space. As soon as the phrase is uttered, you get lots of people pearl-clutching about how you must consider all masculinity bad and how it's an attack on men and maleness. It's utterly ridiculous because a basic understanding of grammar would tell you exactly what the phrase means.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 09:30 AM
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Yea. Making friends as an adult isn't the easiest thing but it definitely is doable, especially if you switch jobs a bunch. I also find that people who are generally more open to new experiences seem to do a better job of connecting with people post-education.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 03:44 PM
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Pretty much. And like, I joke about hating people and being a hermit all the time, and I don't really maintain a large social circle because it overextends me if I do, but I really do have wonderful friends and I really do appreciate them and care about them. They aren't a means to an end for me. They are the people that I would drop anything to do to help if they needed it. At some core level, I wonder if these people even know what a friend is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 02:57 AM
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That's basically them saying "I am a repulsive person with an unpleasant personality" with an extra step lol. Every single time someone does that, they always come off as just gross, mean, unpleasant people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 02:48 AM
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It's legitimately a top 5ish album all time for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 04:22 AM
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Does Donuts count? lol Love me some Pinata by Freddie Gibbs too Wu-Tang Forever Madvillainy Innanetape My Name is My Name Fantastic Damage Section.80 Anything by The Roots
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 12:10 AM
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Nobody has a lower opinion of men than TRP men, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:38 PM
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What's Nestle gonna do, put out the fire with all the water they are stealing?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 05:28 AM
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It means that all women like arsonists. Did you not know this? Arsonist is the new hot occupation. Arsonists are basically just firemen but with more fire. Way more fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 05:24 AM
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It's more masculine to live unashamedly as you are than it is to change things about yourself that are core to who you are (your values and identity namely) because of others opinions and expectations. It's a bit paradoxical. This of course is using the framing of gender roles that is more traditional/TRP-aligned. In a general sense, it's more admirable to live how you want than it is to willingly change yourself due to others expectations. People should do what they want and what makes them hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:16 AM
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Eh, it's a mix. Apparently my type is generally women with a more understated, very put-together sense of style. Distinct, nice, but not necessarily.... Trend-follower. But then when they just have that "I do what I want" energy where they don't care about if others will judge them for doing their own thing, that's what stands out. That independent spirit is great and all the women I've met that have that are genuinely awesome people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 01:50 AM
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In my circles, this seems entirely non-existent. The people who make anyone wait pretty much have no interest in anything casual, and the ones that don't make people wait as much are pretty consistent about what they like and what they want out of their relationships. Also, the people who make people wait seem to have a much higher requirement to feel comfortable before becoming intimate than a lot of others. As far as my own experience (which is honestly ancient history now), I've definitely ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 06:08 PM
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Are we sure the person who posted that isn't high on.... Something? Pretty sure the mere mention of meth would have most people running for the hills away from whoever brought it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:06 PM
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Pretty much. People are complex and flawed but most aren't awful. Will I like most people in particular, probably not, but I don't really meet people that I outright dislike either. I also think that me expecting other people around me to be good tends to mean I really get treated well a lot of the time as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:11 PM
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My point was that it's related and isn't really an attraction trait so much as a trait that determines and shapes your dating people. Being a wholesome person puts you in proximity to other wholesome people. If that's the type of person you want a relationship with, it is very likely they will disqualify people who don't meet the behavioral criteria that fits with their lifestyle. E.g. if someone loves animals, they probably will disqualify people for disliking animals. Liking animals doesn't ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:00 PM
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Yea, I mean, there are plenty of people out there that I clearly don't care for all that much, but the people in my life are great. I assume that anyone saying women are vindictive and evil is generally an unpleasant, vindictive, judgmental person tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:09 PM
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And.... Are those people socially inhibited or are they sociable? Do they have hobbies they are passionate about? Is their circle smaller or larger? How is their social awareness overall? Are they reasonably fashionable and in shape? Plenty of reasons someone could be a virgin into their late 20s that has fuck-all to do with how wholesome and kind-hearted they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:08 PM
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Lol, right? My entire social circle is made up of absolutely wonderful, wholesome, sweet people, and lo and behold, they all generally have very stable, loving relationships with others who are similar in terms of demeanor and behaviors. One of the things about PPD that absolutely amazes me is that TRP has a giant selection bias for.... women who are absolutely toxic, then claims all women are toxic, while selecting for them specifically with their behavior. Like, every single fucking person I k…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 12:15 PM
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That also is very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:33 PM
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My ideal theory for understanding personal happiness is derived from Herzberg's two factor theory. There are things that minimize dissatisfaction and things that maximize overall satisfaction, and often those two types of factors are pretty different. Your healthcare/housing/money example illustrates that, while say, something like having rich friendships would be something that helps maximize satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:27 PM
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Because like, half the movie is basically sex and people still wanted something more. Your entire premise of the OP presupposes that all people are primarily driven by sexual urges, which undersells the complexity of human nature, the human condition, and ultimately, motivations.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:25 PM
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The answer is Logan's Run. People will be offed at 30. It would have everything, including the orgy room and the sex teleporter thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:17 PM
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And people who treat people like that are people who shouldn't be in your life, and I'd be very surprised if they weren't cut from your life due to their treatment of you. Right? Shitty people exist, unfortunately, but ime, the vast majority of people I met when I was in that stage of my life (also around freshman year of college) didn't care at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:43 PM
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Any people that make those types of judgments about others aren't worth a damn, and anyone with self-respect should cut people who make those judgments from their life. I'm not saying that people aren't assholes about it, but plenty of people couldn't give a single shit. If someone isn't putting others down, or going all woe-is-me about how they can't get laid, it's not a big deal at all. I do think a vocal minority is more outspoken about stigmatizing it and calling people out on shitty behavio…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 07:14 AM
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Tbh I don't think anyone actually cares unless you make it your identity. I surely never knew or even really cared if even someone like my roommate was a virgin or not. If someone is cool, they are cool. How much I value them as a human being doesn't change based on if they are a virgin or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:34 AM
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Our whole damn society exalts violence as a solution to all sorts of problems, and young men are often never taught how to process their emotions. That, plus some pretty consistent radicalization of the American population, as well as dire economic straits for a lot of younger people, will lead to some pretty disaffected individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:15 AM
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The right term is.... unevolved.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:15 PM
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Nobody has a lower view of men than the men who prattle on about "male nature" as if it's some fixed thing that prevents men from having other dimensions to their personalities/motivations. It's amazing really, that they can't see the irony of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:09 PM
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RIP. Was poking fun at the main TRP demographic with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:42 PM
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That's just a "Chad in Training". Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:38 PM
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Some people are mentally and emotionally screwed up. Some of them learn to regulate better with time. It's not particularly gendered. This is pretty accurate. When people are still growing and developing as young adults, I think there tends to be a lot of turmoil which often is seen as "bad" in pill world. Plenty of people at that age date and plenty will have experience meeting someone who draws them in, but also has all sorts of instabilities/insecurities that are pretty standard for that age …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:36 PM
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These aren't really terms that I ever actually use in any way, but here is how I see them used on PPD Bad boy: A guy who broke a rule once Good guy: A doormat
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:51 PM
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Both are acceptable personalities for high school boys but grown adults tryina act like high school jocks are cringe How dare you suggest that adult men can have highly developed personalities with multiple dimensions and maturity. This goes against the core principles of PPD, which is that every man in existence is basically just a trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:45 PM
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High functioning people on the spectrum have maintained relationships with neurotypical people before. It's hardly impossible. Especially for those that are high functioning, it is possible to learn to compensate for it in social situations and develop social skills to the point where communication isn't a major issue. Edit: Also, autistic people still do have issues reading others on the spectrum. How autism expresses isn't uniform.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 12:55 AM
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This isn't even the first time I've seen a post like this. At least 3-5 of these in the last year.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:39 PM
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Learning how to dress, staying fit, and building your social skills and social circles is hardly super expensive. Steroids and surgery really are not considered standard options for most people, precisely because they come with trade-offs that are super undesirable. Sure, it's easier to become wealthy if you are famous, but it's not like dating itself is so insurmountably difficult for normal people that it requires fame to do easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:37 PM
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Who knows.... or like, actually cares? It's much more difficult to become famous than to find a relationship is my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:17 PM
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Now try becoming successful or famous without high level communication ability. If someone can't even get a girlfriend, which really isn't that difficult, no way they will have the ability to build the relationships required to achieve and sustain fame.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 08:16 PM
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Temporarily embarrassed millionaire Chads of PPD in shambles.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 08:08 PM
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A guy who struggles to talk to women will struggle 10x more to become famous, lmao. Becoming famous or successful doesn't magically give you social skills or the ability to communicate well with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 08:07 PM
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I'm totally fine with both fading into total and utter irrelevance. That mutually assured destruction is a hell of a drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 06:24 AM
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Someone has gotta profit off this spectacular shit show I guess. But seriously, I see so much talk about it on PPD and it's hilarious to me because.... Plenty of people on this sub rag on others for following celebrity gossip.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 06:22 AM
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Dear lord who cares anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 06:16 AM
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I'm honestly convinced that a lot of people in pill world have the worst understanding of tact. It's so easy to phrase possibly offensive things in a way that other people find palatable with just a bit of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 05:02 AM
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At least on this sub, yes? I've said plenty of times that I only ever really wanted to date people from a similar-ish background as me (e.g. career attainment and social class) and nobody ever took issue with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 04:36 AM
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Heh, yea, but that's a personal problem, rather than a societal/social problem. Which... meh, idgaf if an individual person is griping about bullshit because they are too blind to see where they are fucking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:07 AM
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Shortcuts? fucking rofl. You aren't getting quality people in your life by taking shortcuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:57 AM
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I don’t share the same values of the women I find attractive. And these women come into my life expecting I would but I don’t. So go find people who do share your values. I fail to see the problem here, other than that you aren't proactively searching for what you want. If you want something serious with someone else with a similar mindset and beliefs, present as that and filter for it. If you present one way, then subvert the other person's expectations, don't be surprised when things don't wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 10:55 PM
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I think a ton of these dudes have massive blinders on and struggle to see variation and detail, honestly. Ironically, they seem to think entirely theoretically, and struggle to adjust when their preconceived notions do not hold up. I know plenty of people who majored in the arts, humanities, history, etc. and they all are doing fine. The art people especially have gone on to do some very impressive work for some very large arts organizations, and are very much responsible for helping those orgs …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 09:21 PM
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I think you mean a bangmaid. I hear Frank Reynolds found one a few seasons ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:49 PM
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Imagine genuinely liking your life partner. I do not believe such a thing is possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:47 PM
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who makes $50k/yr and wants a prenup RIP, I nearly snorted out my tea while on a call for work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:46 PM
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Eh, I know plenty of people who take medication where it does help them pretty drastically. Think it just depends on the person a lot too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:45 PM
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All I heard was "feed OP to a bear's children".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:44 PM
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The key point here is that different social classes perceive university education differently. Not really that hard to parse that out. The rest was background. If you want to entirely miss the point of my comment, fine, but that's not my problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 07:44 PM
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Nah, there's a very clear difference between vocational training and formal education. Vocational training in general is much more hands-on, with a focus on concrete skills. Normal university education is much more theoretical and tends to teach with a focus on abstract thought. Arguably, universities have become de facto vocational training in the present, but that never was the role of universities prior to the 20th century, and there still is a focus on holistic learning and theoretical knowl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 07:33 PM
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Also art or some bs? So now art doesn’t count as a degree? A lot of these guys seem to treat education as like, more or less vocational school, and not just.... school, where you go to learn things to become a more well-rounded, knowledgeable person. A lot of this thread is people on this sub being ridiculous, like always,
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 07:07 PM
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Not really any different than what I've been doing at this moment. That said, most of the 30+ men I work with are married, and most of the women I work with have partners who are similar age/life stage as them. For the longest time in my own relationship, I was making like, 30k less than my partner, so it's clearly not a death sentence either to maintain a relationship with that level of income disparity. The women who are right out of college that I work with all seem to be dating similarly age…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 05:10 PM
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women that are on my level have recognized that they can attract men making mid 6 figures(I make $75k) so my “pittance” of a salary isn’t enough even if they find other things about me attractive. This one doesn't make sense to me. I'm not seeing women at the same life/career stage as me dating way up in income/class like that. Most couples I have seen are pretty matched on income, if anything, with pretty small age gaps at most. Admittedly, that is only my own anecdotal experience, but the gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 05:03 PM
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I tend to think a lot of this is just about sociosexuality too. PPD laser-focuses on both men and women who have very high sociosexuality. I'm pretty sure this place just forgets that lower sociosexuality and lower libido people exist, honestly. For someone who is lower on both spectrums, no shit they'll want to wait, because for a lot of people, comfort is a huge part of attraction and not feeling inhibited as well. For people who are highly inhibited, it's going to take some time to get comfor…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 04:00 PM
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But.... What about 3 headed humanoid goats that have snake-like tails and speak Spanish. Are they attractive to women? What is one of those out of 10?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 03:51 PM
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Great, don't. Different people have different pacing that they are comfortable with. Relationships where both individuals need more comfort and time to connect probably will involve more waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 03:05 PM
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Eh, every relationship has a different cadence. Really depends on the people involved. Personally, I never saw an issue with taking it slowly especially with a partner that needed that type of pacing to feel comfortable enough, but it's just so varied from person to person. If someone doesn't value sex all that much, it makes sense to look for partners who are compatible in that way. That being said, I don't think you need to arbitrarily restrict yourself. It's much more about reading the situat…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 08:29 AM
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Not one bit. I've been in my current relationship for nearly 8 years at this point and it's never been anything other than pleasant and generally easy-going. We both put in effort to be the best we can for each other and it's very apparent. That isn't to say that we don't disagree on things, but it's never devolved into a screaming match or anger or fighting and insults. If it did, I'm pretty sure both of us would peace out because that isn't a way to treat someone that you care about. How you t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 06:38 AM
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Some tend to be mid-20s, which def is imo. Depends though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:47 PM
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Fair, but then I think most people who don't have literal affluenza, or who idolize the ultra wealthy, tend to age out of that a bit imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:40 PM
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The median net worth for under 35s is 14k. The way that the law works, in the event of divorce and depending on the state, property should be split evenly by party. An under 35 man married to a typical under 35 woman will have pretty comparable assets. In a lot of jurisdictions, property that each person brought into the marriage still belongs to them, while marital property is split, but this really depends on location. The average under 35 man is not going to be fully financially supporting th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 10:50 PM
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Imagine being that cucked by billionaires.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 09:17 PM
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Lol, I was told my girlfriend of almost 8 years isn't attracted to me because I am the "safe" option. This sub is ridiculous, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 09:05 PM
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Temporarily embarrassed Chads, apparently. It's legit a trope that these guys all think they'll make it big one day. It's pure ridiculousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 08:49 PM
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Most men have fuck-all in assets and people who are more well off are more likely to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 08:45 PM
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It's PPD. I don't think this place will ever believe stable relationships exist, lmao. Makes a lot of sense given the demographic of this place, but it does mean that my own perspective is drowned out and rare here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:13 PM
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Eh, it's a bit of both, if you read between the lines, I think. On one hand, I do think men and women are beholden to different social roles, but I don't necessarily consider men or women privileged as a whole when it comes to specific social roles they are held to. Kinda depends on context.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 05:49 PM
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Ha, right? I think the biggest thing I picked up from my dad specifically is that it's important to stick to your boundaries, maintain your integrity and dignity, and act in an ethical and fair manner. This wasn't even so much a dating thing as a life thing, but it turns out that sticking to those guidelines is like an instant boost to your ability to maintain a healthy relationship. Familial relationships are tricky, but the good ones definitely can help you learn and grow a lot. Wish more peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 05:42 PM
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Eh, introversion doesn't necessarily mean socially inept ime, even if most socially inept people lean more introverted. Either way, yea, being well-liked itself is definitely a skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:48 AM
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I mean, tbf, they absolutely have changed over the last....60-70 years. It's a slow crawl, but it's not like things are the same as they were back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 05:26 AM
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I mean, I have zero love for traditional gender roles. I'm more just describing the roles that men and women are beholden to. Not really what I think they should be. As it stands now, how I think things should be doesn't really matter since I'm operating in a world where things are the way they are. Is it possible to affect change? Maybe, but social trends don't change overnight. Men and women aren't vastly different, but gender identity, expression, and expectations don't exist in a vacuum eith…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 05:16 AM
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Not like they aren't held up to other social expectations around dating. Turning this into a pissing contest about who is more oppressed in dating isn't productive for anyone. For a sub that always talks about how men and women are so different, people here get hella bent out of shape when things actually are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 05:03 AM
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Women don't have the social roles and expectations that men do, so whether they fear rejection or not in dating isn't actually relevant. Women who do approach men however, likely fear rejection less than most others. Anyone who is willing to initiate a social interaction probably fears rejection less than someone who isn't willing to do so. This would even apply to more platonic interactions as well, though obviously it's a little less contentious in those spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 04:53 AM
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Eh, yes and no. Dating in general does get easier with practice, as does socializing in general, but I wouldn't actually say having a girlfriend itself makes life easier either. Just different sets of challenges. Maintaining a relationship requires a much different set of skills than just establishing a social connection, after all
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 04:41 AM
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Not really that surprising, when a lot of dating really is more about mood, quality of interaction, being socially engaging, and matching the energy of the person you are talking to. Honestly, even proximity alone is a big driver. Part of dating is coming off as someone that other people WANT to be around, and knowing how to carry social interactions and excelling is the currency that gets you results there. Being mega-charismatic will do a lot for a person's life, both for dating, and in other …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 04:25 AM
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I mean, you said it yourself. Plenty of men screen themselves out because they fear rejection. Plenty of other men fail to maximize themselves and present poorly because they don't really care enough to present well, or don't know how to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 04:01 AM
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Ok, but have you tried having parents who are Boomers? Or parents who are immigrants who made it in America. As much as I love my parents, they absolutely are blind to both the concept of survivorship bias, and the fact that hard work means fuck-all a lot of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 08:50 PM
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My commute to my office if I had to go in would be 90 minutes by bus and I refuse to get a car because I would have no need outside of commuting to work, which I don't do anyway. It's a total non-starter because of how awful the commute would be/having to shell out for a car when it wouldn't be worth it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 08:31 PM
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Then yea, 150ish, but it's going to vary a lot by body type and overall body shape. Like for me, I'm somewhere between 12-15%, I believe, but weigh more like 130 lbs, because I have a more narrow/smaller frame. Human bodies are weird and vary a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 07:51 PM
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for a 5'9 guy? 150ish is a healthy weight for someone that doesn't lift weights. what constitutes normal BF% though, 20%? 15%? 15% is on the relatively fit end. 25% is kinda pudgy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 07:47 PM
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Joke's on them, I'll just quit if forced to return to office. But yea, there legitimately is a lot of media out there pushing return to office and I have yet to hear a compelling reason to want to go back. I can do my entire job from home, often better than I do in office. I maximize my time way better when working from home. I have zero desire to socialize with co-workers, except rarely. And, to top it off, commuting can eat a dick. Honestly think that if I am commuting, I should be compensated…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 07:44 PM
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I have no idea how to assess my own or my partner's attractiveness to others, but if I had to guess.... safe and safe?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 07:38 PM
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Ugh, offices are gross. They all feel soulless, and you have to commute to get there. Overkill WFH setup is all I want/need. Also is easier to deal with home maintenance shit if I continue to work from home.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 07:35 PM
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If there is a child that exists, it needs to be supported somehow. The answer is either proper social safety nets, or paying for the kid you made. The mere existence of a child means that SOMEONE has to support it. The two choices are taxpayers or parents (or guardians, if the parents aren't around) Otherwise, if your position is that men should be able to opt out of paying for children they had a part in creating, especially without any proper social safety nets, you're basically advocating for…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:55 AM
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The bar on PPD is set deep in the mantle of Earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 05:37 PM
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Most men on PPD seem to want to refuse to provide for their own children, if all the financial abortion threads on the sub are any indication. It isn't really a question of money, so much as personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 05:02 PM
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Then you have PPD, where the average man wouldn't even provide for their own child if they had the choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 09:09 AM
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I find a lot of people in TRP/FDS/reddit relationship space tend to be so..... rigid in how they try to structure their relationships, to the point that it seems like roles are pretty heavily defined and any deviation is seen as more or less the end of the world. Doesn't really fit with my very mellow go with the flow energy at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 07:30 AM
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I've been around this fucking place for 8+ years and have not been banned once. Apparently though, the impact this sub has had on me and my own relationships is that I find that a lot of behaviors on here match up with a "what not to do in an LTR" checklist, more or less. Seems to REALLY work well when you look at this sub and really just do the inverse of whatever wack harebrained bullshit people here seem to suggest so often.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 07:24 AM
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I've always wondered what it is like to be in a relationship with someone on the spectrum, partially because I am on the spectrum and my girlfriend isn't. From my perspective, it doesn't seem particularly difficult (at least with me), aside from just needing to be aware of a few harmless quirks I have, but I am sure the experience varies a lot from person to person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 06:38 AM
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Talking public transit with conservatives generally seems pointless because they hate the entire concept of public transit ime. Talking public transit with centrists or people who are further left-leaning means you really can dig into the minute details of what a good transit system looks like, how transit should integrate with urban planning and housing density, how zoning should be adjusted based on transit capabilities, the actual transit infrastructure. It actually feels like those conversat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 06:34 AM
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Grew up well-off. Am dating well-off girl. Turns out both of us are rather.... Normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 01:46 AM
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For men, it's all about human virtues and "actual important stuff". Is it really? Doesn't match up at all with at least my own lived experience. The most I could say is that morality/virtue/life trajectory impacts the type of dating pool you exist in. It doesn't actually do anything for attraction though. Plenty of women date men because those men are compatible, a source of comfort, make them feel safe, or because they get along well, or whatever else. Plenty of men date women because they vibe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 07:31 PM
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I literally moved to a place that is known for gloomy weather because of the climate. Hate the sun. Hate heat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 03:46 PM
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I'm like, 5'10 and 125 or 130 lbs. I've always had a smaller frame and am built super narrowly throughout. Have very little body fat. I'm happy with how I look, but I could stand to be more active. Want to hike more than I already do, and play basketball more consistently.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:33 PM
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The weather is somewhat comparable. I enjoyed Edinburgh a smidge more when I last visited the UK more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:25 PM
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In Seattle, you can throw a rock and hit an otherwise mediocre dude who makes a bit of money who thinks he's hot shit because of it, lmao. There's a reason the tech bro stereotype is so prevalent and also so disliked. It's also just a very introverted/socially withdrawn city with very different social values from a lot of other regions, so a lot of transplants especially come here and end up being disappointed with life here or the dating scene here. Not really that surprising. People who decide…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:23 PM
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As far as I am concerned, this post is just an opportunity to talk about cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:11 PM
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Getting a cat to listen to you and respect you requires a lot of skill, lol. I'm pretty sure the people that say these things don't know a thing about cats. Unfortunately, my cat is an ass though. Too hyper.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:07 PM
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Yea, my friends circle is all college educated professionals and.... surprise surprise, every single one of my guy friends does seem to at least somewhat care that their partner (or potential partner, for the single ones) has a career of their own, or that they have a plan to further advance their career if they aren't happy with it. I think the other piece is that this dovetails with that fact that MC+ men (and especially UMC+) want to date someone from a similar background as they do generally…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:49 PM
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I feel like Ben Shapiro is an interesting case. It seems he's self owned so hard he wants to make slavery legal again.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:28 PM
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That's called "The Ben Shapiro"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 03:44 PM
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Nah it's a collection of 93 people with 1000 alt accounts each.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 03:33 PM
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Nah, plenty of men definitely care. Seems to really scale up with social class and education. Also, arguably, I'd say men on PPD DO care about women's careers (or lack thereof), in that they seem to prefer women who aren't career driven or who don't have career success to speak to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 03:15 PM
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I know exactly what I said. PPD struggles horribly with the entire concept of nuance when it comes to human relationships, behavior and personality types.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 07:13 AM
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PPD operates in this weird space where..... nuance literally doesn't exist, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:03 AM
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Yea, the issue there is the dishonesty really. But then, who cares if it isn't my partner, or someone whom I have in my life as either a friend or prospective partner. I'll call out shitty behavior from people I am close to, but shitty behavior here involves obvious deceit, at least in your example.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:01 AM
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Nope, it's either total stick in the mud, or raging alcoholic that gets into bar fights. There is no such thing as a man who generally gets enough sleep and eats well, but enjoys going out for food or a nice drink from time to time. Absolutely impossible that such a person can exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 03:59 AM
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There's no real reason to disparage someone over something that doesn't affect you, and there are also much much much more tactful ways of discussing your preferences in a way that is thoughtful and easily palatable to others. Disparaging people in general is just bad vibes and I don't even care to be friends with people who do talk negatively about others to that extent. Only time it's tolerable is if you're calling out people for actions that are obviously damaging to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:40 PM
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Aren't a lot of people "boring" though? In my experience, I've met a lot more boring women than men in my life. There has to be some solace for boring bros. Boring is a matter of perspective. Someone who can mentally engage someone in their interests, humor them, learn from them, and who is able to listen and learn and adapt will be seen as much more "fun" than someone who does none of those things though. Boring, as I tend to use it, has a specific meaning, and that meaning is something along t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 05:15 PM
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Yes, when you are less social and meet less people, that tends to mean that you are less likely to form relationships. That being said, someone can be rather introverted and have quite an active social life. The solution, literally, is to go meet more people if your socialization and relationship needs are not being met. You can still have plenty of recharge time and alone time as needed and do so. Frankly, this reads more as "being boring/too set in your routine makes it harder to meet new peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:22 PM
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This thread is ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 04:04 PM
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I've noticed that when men talk about these "percentages of women," they are (and will admit with a little prodding) filtering heavily about who counts as a "woman" for this exercise. They're almost always limiting themselves to women in roughly their age bracket, and occasionally filtering by weight, race, whether these women are visibly with their kids, etc. Women who don't fit these categories simply don't count as "women." This seems accurate from what I've seen. Also, yea, I think PPD in ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 03:32 PM
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Project manager in consulting. But I'm also an oddity for PPD given my own views/how long I've kinda stuck around.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 09:43 PM
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Fair is "whoever has the bandwith to get shit done does the work". I've never met someone who believes such a thing ISN'T fair. If two people are equally busy and have equal amounts of bandwith, the work should be split based on however they agree to split it. All the unpaid care work is important and still IS unpaid, whether it is cooking, child care, care of elderly relatives, errands, cleaning, washing clothes, home maintenance etc. Personally I don't believe that this type of daily activity …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:31 PM
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This makes more sense to me. In my situation, I work remotely. My partner doesn't, but we make similar incomes. Because I work remotely and because of how I work, I also spend significantly less time on my job, which usually means that I'll just knock out most housework during my free work time. The other part that I think a lot of people miss the mark on is personality type. Some people are very intentional about their living space. Others are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:24 PM
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Because projection. Plenty of people assume that their motivations for doing things are universal, which is how you get so many of the wacky ideas on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 04:09 PM
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That too. I do think with people from lower SES, you see a divide of either getting married super quick or never getting married. UMC+ seems to just get married and stay together a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:41 PM
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I think you can even say it's social class specific, as much as it is location specific. I think especially for people who don't have career/education ambitions, getting married and having kids is just.... what people do since there isn't really much else that is new aside from that. Social class is definitely going to determine people's ambitions to a large extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:12 PM
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I mean, your dating pool will vary pretty significantly from what general population looks like based only on location. Other factors that can influence the composition of your dating pool are personality type, social class, economic standing, career, social activities, hobbies, etc. College in general is a good time to find a partner, but you also need to remember that being college educated alone means someone is already one of the top 40% most educated people in their demographic. Plenty of p…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:25 PM
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36k/year? That's pretty shit in most moderate to large metro areas. That's super meh at best anywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 12:23 AM
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Everyone knows the best relationships start with being pimped out to the MIL's manager.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 10:33 PM
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If the average man for the area I live in is making less than the national average and I compare him to that standard, I’m not seeking an “average man,” I’m then seeking an above average man when you compare the two population samples (entire USA versus Pennsylvania). Yea.... average Mississippian and average..... Los Angeles resident are VERY different things. I guess aggregate population averages are fine for determining at the very least, what the line for mediocre is, in general, but...... t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 09:45 PM
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$3,000 per month, with no need to find a job. That's rookie numbers. Dear lord. Honestly, I'd be offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 09:43 PM
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Haha right? The way I'd describe my interactions with my girlfriend, I would say any times that we weren't super clear with each other had much more to do with immaturity and lack of lived experience than with us having some type of ulterior motives or intentions. When our intentions changed, eventually that was voiced. If I had to do it again, I would have been more direct though. I think a 19 year old coming off a blah break-up didn't help either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 09:23 PM
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lol, based on the entire context of our relationship and how we met/how it started, I don't really see how there was an ulterior motive at that point. When we first connected, it was fine, but we didn't get closer until later, when I was out of the relationship I was in at the time. We did lose touch for a short time frame, and I was the one that reached back out again, but even then, the intent wasn't really to pursue a relationship. Really just wanted to complain to someone, if anything. When …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 09:08 PM
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I think something women tend to overlook is that guys are effectively not allowed to maintain female friendships whilst in a relationship. Your average taken dude can't meet with a female friend for coffee, for example. I'm not entirely convinced of this. However, the caveat is that it greatly helps if you intermingle friend groups with your partner, and if your partner can become friends with your friends. Requires some legwork up front, but as long as your partner trusts both of you, doesn't s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 09:02 PM
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She was friends with an ex who I was dating at the time when we were first introduced, but we didn't become particularly close until after that relationship ended. My ex ruined a bunch of friendships (including with my now girlfriend) and my relationship with her over a short amount of time, which caused us to break up. At some point, I reached out to my now girlfriend mostly just to like, understand wtf happened, and we ended up just talking a while. Turned out we had a lot in common, and both …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 06:37 PM
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Being direct and being known as someone who isn't a bullshitter is the easiest and best way to get into long-lasting relationships with other clear communicators. Having ulterior motives introduces what is colloquially known as bullshit into the mix, and that makes building relationships more difficult. Also, as someone whose... nearly 8 year relationship is with someone who was previously a friend, it's not like you necessarily intend to have a relationship when you initially become friends wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:04 PM
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Ok fine. Her stabby little kitten mittens are adorable. Just too sharp.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:24 PM
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If someone hurt my cat, I'd be so so so pissed. She is a fuzzy little troll and total asshole, but she is mine. If only she weren't so... Stabby, she'd be perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 09:57 PM
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PPD seems to think that women are just defective men, so that is hardly surprising. They also often project their own motivations onto women's behavior constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 09:53 PM
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Propensity to have sex outside of committed relationships. My thinking is people who don't also have some level of drive that needs to be stimulated by security and comfort probably replace that with other sources of... drive. Edit: this is all kinda averages though, since sexuality is much more complex than just appearance anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 10:02 PM
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I think you could shift the focus to talking about sociosexuality there, rather than personality type specifically. High sociosexuality people probably are more appearance driven is my guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:54 PM
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I can buy that for sure. I think in general, heavily multi-dimensional personalities are much more attractive because they always will keep you on your toes. Point being, no reason someone who is wholesome generally can't also have other dimensions to their personality that people find desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:46 PM
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That's what I'm going for. Ya love to hear it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:28 PM
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That's a huge part of it. Overtly sexualized people attract the same, and are HORRIBLY off-putting to people who are more private in their expression of their sexuality. Plenty of people may choose to be more discreet in their sexual expression for a variety of reasons that have nothing to do with attraction. Could be anything like being taken more seriously in the workplace, or personal comfort with their own sexuality, long-standing social relationships, whatever else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:01 PM
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Wholesomeness as a personality trait is pretty much unrelated/decoupled from sexual attraction ime. Laid back, mellow, non-hypermasculine looking men who have good features/style/a good vibe/charisma hardly seem to struggle. If anything, what's more likely is that someone who has good dude/wholesome energy has an ENTIRELY different dating pool than the type of guy that is more aggressive/wild whatever the fuck else. It's not really so much an attraction thing. It's entirely about dating pools an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 08:10 PM
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Lmao right? PPD attracts some people with wacky AF relationship dynamics. If someone says they don't love you, you better have the self respect to leave them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:18 PM
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Bus drivers are the most masculine people around. Yes. All hail our eternal drivers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 11:26 PM
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Driving in Glendale always had me fearing for my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:49 PM
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She always drives, because I do not own a car and do not intend to own a car until life forces me to. Usually we bus unless it's multiple transfers though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:43 PM
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"a person who forms relationships with others purely to extract money from them, in particular a woman who strives to marry a wealthy man." The connotation here is not "someone wealthy also dating someone else who is wealthy".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:11 PM
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Right? I love how the OP is just butchering the entire meaning of the term and is now accusing people of not reading the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:35 PM
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I'm not sure the tendency of the rich to stay among their own is gold-digging, per se. It's very much real--class-mixing is the exception rather than the rule--but it's not the same thing as gold-digging. Yea, I'd say there is a pretty material difference between dating at the same level of income/class vs. gold-digging, which I'd specifically say excludes staying at the same level and only going for people much higher on the ladder.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 03:56 PM
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The state of cats these days smfh. Seriously though, my cat is basically chaos in a fuzzy ball.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 07:04 AM
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But what kind of cats do you turn into?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:39 AM
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Yea but you gotta see how far you can push it then. It's an obligation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:38 AM
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But imagine all the wrinkles! She could be a witch!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:32 PM
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maybe there's more to love than being someone else's first and only experience, and the road to happiness isn't the same for everyone? This makes more sense to me than anything else in this thread. Different people have different priorities and different happiness drivers. There isn't some cookie cutter "best" that is universal (and in dating, I'd even argue that there isn't any "best" that is broadly applicable).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:32 PM
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I mean, some of the posters here might as well be actual memes, so I can't take it very seriously at all. Occasionally I have a worthwhile conversation, but this sub is more along the lines of observing a psychiatric ward than anything else. That part is more interesting than a lot of the "debate", especially because TRP is basically the same dogshit it was a decade ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:29 PM
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Dear lord. There is absolutely nothing "different" about this perspective. This OP is the same old tired takes from tradcons and religious people and TRP that I've seen for a decade+.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:20 PM
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Half these dudes haven't even been on a date. LOL It's absolutely fucking comical to me. Hearing all these theories on how to maintain an LTR from them are even more hilarious, especially as someone that is in an long LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:16 PM
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Science says women stop existing at 30. At that point, they are just old people /s
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:14 PM
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Lol right? Then again, a lot of reds/manosphere have these ultra-religious complexes about sex and women's sexuality, so maybe it's relevant for that specific subset of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:13 PM
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The red pill is a gateway to many fantastical abilities, such as mind reading and the ability to project your emotions and thoughts onto others with complete accuracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 10:28 PM
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Most couples do date for a while before they get married. Not like they suddenly meet at 30 and marry on the spot. Now that my girlfriend is 26, I need to think long and hard about leaving her, as she isn't giving me her best anymore /s
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 10:27 PM
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I always considered this sub an outpatient psychiatric ward.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 06:54 PM
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drama Llama The Drama Llama is an indigenous resident of /r/PurplePillDebate, known for exploding in hysteria at the slightest challenge to their worldview. The Drama Llama also enjoys making very outlandish claims about how bad life for the male Drama Llama is, as they feel persecuted quite frequently. The Drama Llama often believes that the world and all other llamas are just as dramatic as they are, and is known to ignore all other regular chill llamas, who coexist with each other relatively …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 12:59 AM
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Wholesomeness is so underrated on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 10:15 PM
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Poly relationships sound like a chore to me tbh. My life already has me expending enough mental energy. Adding another relationship on top of the one I already have (and have had for a long time) just seems..... tiring. As an introvert, bleh. I know my limits to social interaction and what I have is more than enough. Also in a general sense, my motivations for being in a relationship are mostly non-sexual. It's generally a lower priority for me and I'm pretty content to be that way. From a more …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 09:48 PM
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Most users of social media are more likely to be consumers than content creators, so I think this is actually a pretty normal perspective on things
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 08:43 PM
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Lol right? Plenty of people either limit their social media presence or eschew it entirely. Most people I know/have met generally have somewhat limited presence at most, and are more likely to use the platforms to consume content rather than like, post frequently. Weirdly, one of the more active platforms for some people is LinkedIn, but that kinda makes sense given the professional networking aspect
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:13 PM
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Most of the data I see on this is medians at least from the CDC. Mean would def skew.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:59 AM
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Done!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 12:01 AM
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Since you asked - Interesting data here. Roughly 40% report 10+ lifetime by ages 40-44. At ages 20-24, roughly 20% report 10+ partners. Additional data, with medians shows averages around 6 for men and 4 for women for people ages 25-44. Based on the data, of US men ages 15-44, 20% have 15+ lifetime partners about, and that number has decreased since 2000.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 12:01 AM
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I would guess that most guys who could sleep with double-digit amounts of women probably get sick of the pursuit a lot sooner than one might think. Yea, I think PPD makes the assumption that any guy that CAN have a lot of casual sex will, without accounting for people who don't care for it, value it, prioritize it or pursue it, who otherwise have the theoretical ability to. Plenty of attractive people who end up paired off early.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 11:58 PM
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What kind of average are we talking about, mean, median? More importantly, how is "top 20%" defined because this sub has yet to come to anywhere near a consensus on where that line is. The general answer to all these questions is about how much other people getting laid is..... likely less than some people seem to think. Interesting data here. Roughly 40% report 10+ lifetime by ages 40-44. At ages 20-24, roughly 20% report 10+ partners. Of course, these numbers are only really relevant to people…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 11:32 PM
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5 feet tall, 1400-1600 lbs. The size of a wide body jet. The key is cultivating mass. But in all seriousness, can't say I'd change much about my appearance at all. Maybe I'd put on a bit more weight, but I like how I look and also just generally have a smaller frame anyway. Never felt as if it was a hindrance in much if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 10:04 PM
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Maybe 1-2x in nearly 8 years, and that's using a very generous definition of "fight". We're both pretty easy-going and low maintenance though. We haven't ever had any disagreements with shouting and disrespect or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:42 PM
1

This is why drunk bus rides are superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:56 PM
14

Man, PPD men are massive fucking drama llamas.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:14 PM
5

Yea there is also that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:51 AM
3

Did you just compare alimony to rape and murder? Good fucking god that is a deranged take. Absolutely bonkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 02:46 AM
3

Apparently. Always found it interesting too that most incel types I've seen aren't even bad looking. They just are either obnoxious, mentally ill, or boring as shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 12:11 AM
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Yea it's absolutely ridiculous what these people believe. It's absurdity as performance art almost. PPD focuses hard on apex and visible people at the expense of understanding what real world relationships are like.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 12:08 AM
4

https://www.verywellfamily.com/us-child-support-statistics-2997994 Typical rewarded child support is a shade under $500/month. Typical collected is about 3/5 of that according to the data here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 12:03 AM
3

You aren't wrong, but I find it a bit funny since you can just look up all this data online too. It's so easy to bullshit-check the manosphere claims made on the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 10:48 PM
14

Actual amount paid. Median awarded is 5k a year or so if I remember right. I pulled the stats once but I don't want to dig to find them again now since I'm on mobile.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:10 PM
12

Lol fair. This sub is fucking wacky and I shouldn't be surprised after being here forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:06 PM
20

I remember seeing the stats on this. Roughly 60% of child support that is awarded gets paid out. Think the median paid is roughly 3k yearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:00 PM
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How is every fucking post on this sub so disconnected from the real world? Alimony is already pretty rare and child support is contingent on the existence of a child, not on marriage. Also, statistically, marriages where the couple is financially stable are more likely to last, and more likely to be happy. Can't really think of many situations where someone gets married because they want to divorce later. Hell, even as a guy who is financially stable, I'd want a partner who meets that threshold …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 08:39 PM
2

Yea, "chad" is ill defined, mostly on-purpose I think, because it's the moving target that allows people to shift accountability for their own perceived shortcomings.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:39 PM
0

I mean, I think most of the viewpoints on PPD make more sense when you realize that a lot of posters here legitimately think that women are just defective men, when it comes to sexuality at least. It's quite odd. They also often make the assumption that all men want casual sex and men cannot truly choose to want a committed relationship. Obviously that is a bit of a quick and dirty summary, but so much of the red/black pill perspective does seem to have a ton of projection of their desires as no…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:04 PM
0

Yea, I think there is better phrasing I could use, but when you implicitly consider others as better than you on a basis that a well-adjusted person in the real world probably doesn't give a fuck about, you gotta analyze that further haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:53 PM
1

Is it really that hot a take though? Lots of dudes on here who tend to believe "Chad" is a real thing tend to disqualify themselves as potential partners for people, and generally seem to lack self-worth. Admittedly this thought is a half-baked idea, but I think you can arguably say that they let a figment of their own creation "cuckold" them, so to speak. I probably need to think this through more, but I think there is definitely a strong link between lack of self-worth and warped perceptions o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:48 PM
1

I'd almost argue that believing in "Chad" is just a man self..... cuckolding? To use their own terminology.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:41 PM
1

What if Chad was cuck culture all along?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:07 PM
1

For sure. I do wonder what the blocker to replicating this behavior would be for others but I have yet to really find anything that's super consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 03:14 PM
2

Emotional constipation is a very common affliction for a lot of young men, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:52 PM
1

I find this topic in particular pretty interesting because so much of PPDs experience is at odds with my own. For me, if I am having a difficult time, I'm entirely open about it, and about how it affects my thoughts and moods. Recently it's been work stress and instead of bottling it up, I've been actively griping about it a bit. Honestly helps me feel better and it's never had any negative impacts on my relationship or friendships. I'm pretty sure that even at the start of my relationship, I de…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:47 PM
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I would somewhat disagree with this, ive seen plenty of rich guys date down in social class, they just almost never date down in looks Eh, this seems like a new money vs. old money thing to some extent. Old money rich definitely are more insular. New money rich seem to have more flexibility in that regard. Generally agree that a lot meet via social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 10:09 PM
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Rich guys usually date rich girls. Rich guys that date down in social class are outliers. Source: Grew up UMC+ But yea, in general, having $$ and economic standing don't hurt. It means one less thing to stress about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:59 PM
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Wait until women hear Baby Got Back. That's the death knell of the West /s
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:57 PM
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So...... don't date women who fit this very narrow stereotype you concocted in your head. Either way, traditional anything is a pretty narrow role imo. Shows lack of imagination and the most fun and interesting people aren't bound by trends nor tradition from what I've seen. Also, hip hop has existed and been popular for..... decades at this point. Edit: Seriously, so much of PPD essentially is..... people hand-wringing over others not fitting their preconceived notions of what they think people…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:39 PM
8

I like building things. Relationship building isn't really that different from building anything else. I don't really find it stressful, and if anything, I find it to be very peaceful with someone that I care about so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:36 PM
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Man I'm actually going to fucking die rn. It's not even noon yet and I am running on fumes. Already had a pot of coffee and might need another, then another coffee later. Got a 5 hour volunteer shift for a film festival after work. Running on 4 hours of sleep, and I had a work meeting last night that ran past midnight, after I finished another 5 hour volunteer shift. Best part is that I have three more work meetings between now and end of day. At least tomorrow is Friday.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 06:40 PM
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This is the level of discourse that PPD has stooped to. It's literally "this conflicts with my own preconceived notions so it isn't real". Original data is here. The methodology is legitimately pretty good as this is very standard of typical large sample research studies Methodology is here. Sample size is huge for this type of study. There's plenty of research studies that are pretty questionable, but Pew/Ipsos who are responsible for this are both highly reputable shops.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:43 PM
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Interestingly enough, married couples report higher satisfaction across most relationship domains. Tbh, it just seems that the crappy part is the very specific vows that people take for religious marriages. If you don't like the vows one would typically take towards their partner, there are alternatives. It's not like marriage vows are a fixed thing or like those promises are things that cannot be changed. That way when your partner looks at you, they get the feeling that you could find someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:27 PM
1

The tech workers I know are a mixed bag on this. I make just about six figures, a smidge less, and have a plain old 40 hour week. Other jobs/industries definitely differ.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:41 AM
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They all probably would have much better odds of finding people in the real world rather than online, honestly. Familiarity and proximity are huge factors that nobody on this sub ever thinks are particularly important for whatever reason. If someone knows who you are, building a relationship with them will be much easier. Most likely they'll meet people in person if they don't online.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 11:07 PM
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Lol all of this just tells me living in a suburb and commuting to work is shit. I could have told you about that without calculating all this out. 1 hour a day to get ready for work. (5 h) you get 5 hours back if you can find a wfh job He has to help with some chores around the house (6 hour a week) Can be done during wfh activities with pretty minimal effort That puts you in the suburbs in most metropolitan areas so atleast 45 minute commute one way. (7.5 hour a weeks driving) If doing wfh, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 08:15 PM
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Well women in general age better because they put effort into taking care of themselves and their skin. Men are lucky if they even wash their faces with dove soap. It might just be the culture I’m from but women and some men look so much younger than they are. Yea, good skincare routine and healthy habits = better aging from what I've seen. Seems that's pretty gender agnostic. I think this sub in general focuses on people who are just generally very visible, and that can lead to some..... intere…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 06:09 PM
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Women age faster? Wtf is this about? It’s predatory when any older person goes for far younger people. Did you not know that women that claim to be 30 are really 40? Man years and woman years are a thing /s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 05:52 PM
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while i know some man is going to come here and tell me (a woman who is surrounded by women 24/7) that women only like bad boys and don’t like genuine personalities, what you describe is what most women want (or at least the ones i’ve met anyways). most of the guys on this sub are projecting and as previously stated, having a self-pity circle jerk with one another. Pretty much. What I'm describing in my comment, if anything is literally the exact stuff that worked for me. And guess what. What wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 07:47 AM
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Anyway I get called a white knight on here a lot. But I realised that what I actually challenge the most on the sub is misandry coming from other men. I agree with this pretty strongly. There's a lot of dudes on here who straight up just expect guys to not have standards, or want better for themselves/those in their lives, or who think EVERY SINGLE GUY resorts to manipulation. It's absolutely nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 07:39 AM
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The way that PPD describes the average man, you'd think they are a disingenuous, spineless, entirely useless worm of a person. I don't even think the average man is all that impressive (or that average people are impressive in general, they are just average), but this sub often conflates "average" with bottom of the barrel, lol. Granted, I've always felt that being authentic and real with people has always been the best way to build and keep relationships and friendships, but apparently this sub…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 07:31 AM
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I know a few men who can, some of the "happily married" guys do mantain the facade, they just become so proficient at it that it is no longer an effort to lie and deceive, I have yet to see a truly equitable relationship like this, but ok. Well being relatively fit and in college literally does nothing for OLD, and also only really works if you are good in social circle game, in clubs/bars, and daygame that is not much to speak off Online dating is shit anyway for finding and maintaining an LTR …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 07:27 AM
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The bar to be above average is in the gutter lol. If you can be relatively fit and are college educated in the US, you already are better off than at least 2/3 of guys, and your dating pool will largely be higher quality as well. Anyway, the goalposts seem to be scooting away from where you set them up initially. Being toxic is a clear negative for maintaining a happy and healthy LTR. Eventually the bill comes due because you can't maintain the facade forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 07:03 AM
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Utter nonsense. Having a spine and being down-to-earth, a good listener, and easy to trust is more than enough for that and none of those things are toxic and manipulative. The other part of this is having standards and choosing partners who are genuinely good people. Note: these are specifically traits great for maintaining a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 06:31 AM
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For both of us, stress is a major libido killer and of course the usual work week causes stress. I think this sub in general really underestimates how bad stress can impact that side of a relationship, on both ends really. I also generally think PPD overestimates men's drive though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 04:19 PM
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I mean, I think it's still split into 2 parts, but your perspective does make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 06:48 AM
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Q4A how important is kindness in a partner to you as a basis for attraction? What do you observe around you.. I wouldn't ever date a woman whom I considered unkind. I group different behaviors/traits into.... hygiene factors and motivators, where a hygiene factor is something that is required for me not to be dissatisfied (or alternatively, the lack of this thing means I am not dissatisfied), while motivators are items that enhance attraction specifically. A good example of a hygiene factor is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 04:31 AM
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I think that specific trait is class-agnostic honestly. Generally I think high achievers are far less likely to seek certain kinds of attention than lower achievers though. I would also say higher achievers generally face different pressures and have different expectations that probably make them more cognizant of their behavior and reputation than people who are not as talented/driven. I tend to specifically view attention-seeking behavior as something people do when they feel neglected in some…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 10:23 AM
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1000% yes. Culture and social class are pretty much the main determinants of how a person approaches relationships from what I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 10:16 AM
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My entire social circle is UMC+ and has always been. I have yet to see any of the women in this circle date anyone that is even close to what I define as a "bad boy", unless they are specifically someone who lacks general stability in their life. If anything, I find that stable women who grew up well-off go for men who are similar to themselves, and women who are attention-seeking or who struggle to center themselves are much more likely to date men whom I generally have a lower opinion of. Even…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 10:13 AM
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This depends on your definition of "bad", but I'd say in general, if "bad" is addicts, people dealing hard drugs, felons, school dropouts, gang members, or whatever else, I want nothing to do with the women that associate with them either. If "bad" is a slightly socially uninhibited guy in a frat, or someone who parties a good bit.... I'd ask why that is considered "bad" to you. The definition of "bad" seems to be a moving target here. From what I've seen, the people who get around most have soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 03:23 PM
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My Adidas Stan Smith's have entered the chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 03:12 PM
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If my social circle is any indication, not at all common, but such men and women do exist. I can only speak to my own experience, but I find that once you date someone long enough, you'll eventually have to open up to them somehow, and if not, it will be very obvious that you are for lack of a better term, emotionally constipated. If you don't want petty partners with those nutty expectations, way better to be open early on and let them disqualify themselves if that's what they are about. No rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 07:41 PM
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People will be fucking immortal. Think bigger. At that point, we might need to just start cannibalizing the robber barons so they don't re-animate themselves. God, we'll have an entire generation geriatric Palpatine looking fuckers who own 95% of the planet, won't we.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 07:00 AM
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Not Chad? How dare you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:58 AM
2

How is the answer not.... Bears, and warmth. And cat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:44 AM
1

I fully expect at least one PPD poster to go intentionally try to get hit by a car while biking because of your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:14 AM
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Does this mean that Chad rides bikes and gets wrecked by cars? Is this the new PPD dating strategy of the month?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:07 AM
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I agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 08:49 PM
2

Basically a buzzkill. Someone who isn't seen as "fun". A negative person who sucks the fun out of the air when they walk into a room. Alternatively - "A person or thing that says or does something to impinge on other people's enjoyment."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 08:47 PM
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Because that's only an opinion that a wet blanket would have. Average with a spine and a genuine personality > average dude who is an absolute buzzkill
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 08:41 PM
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CMV: Being a wet blanket is the biggest hindrance a lot of men have when dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 08:32 PM
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The average nice guy is a wet blanket. You can be a good person and not be a wet blanket of a personality and you'll probably be successful, but the average nice guy type is an uptight, reluctant, bland person who isn't able to inspire attraction in a partner. Them being nice or not functionally isn't an issue. The issue is that they either are not authentic, or their authentic self is a wet blanket.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 08:27 PM
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PPD likes them trashy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:54 PM
2

Trailer park methheads are obviously PPDs type though. Or urban camping methheads depending on the environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:52 PM
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Also, PPD has a blind spot for class the size of its entire field of vision.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 04:23 PM
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What if the truth was just the delusions people have in their heads this whole time? I'd argue that a lot of times, these people who claim to see the truth construct their version of the truth in their heads as a way to either shift agency (in a way that isn't congruent with any widespread conception of reality), or for ego protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:54 PM
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Lmao that's a good point. Definitely will say that LA has its share of superficial people, but I do find that those circles are going to be very insular and honestly just kinda shitty. I'm half-kidding but I think PPD forgets there is a massive demographic that genuinely prefers to have partners that are more or less normal and wholesome people, and this demographic includes plenty of people who are very attractive. This sub laser-focuses on how scumbags get all the women, while.... Not realizin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:18 PM
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Eh, even if someone who comes from money doesn't necessarily use it or have access to it, I think it actually has the opposite effect where they would be less likely to go that route. At least with my girlfriend, it's very much that way, where she grew up very well-off, but her parents raised her and her brother to be super self-reliant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:12 PM
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Lol I find this a bit hilarious because I grew up in the Los Angeles area, and my girlfriend of... 7.5 years is the daughter of a film studio exec, and I'm pretty sure that nobody would assume either of those things about us if they met us. I think the comment you are replying to is mostly just the standard PPD brain rot with lack of self-awareness that's prevalent on this sub. Or maybe I'm just being sensitive about where I grew up, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:08 PM
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PPD: Freudian Edition
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 11:01 PM
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The fuck kind of nonsense is this? I've literally never met another guy who has been shamed for saying they want to be with someone on their level. What I can totally see being shamed is men saying they have certain standards in a way that other people find offensive, but if you can't state your preferences in a way that isn't offensive, that's a you problem, not a problem with women or society.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 06:58 PM
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Lol, average age on this sub feels like < 20 sometimes if anything. Tbh I also think this massively varies by social class. I don't see upper middle class educated people (which is my circle) dating people who don't have some pretty obviously good prospects in the future, even if their 20s are spent grinding away at school or early career work. But in a general sense, yea, functioning is kinda a minimum and thriving is preferred. For people who are thriving, they probably want someone who at lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 04:04 PM
2

Yea it has happened to me once or twice years ago as well. For me it's usually that people just ask for directions now, but I also usually got music on when I walk around so clearly I don't want to be bothered anyway. I'm not a large guy at all or anything either. I used to live very close to a giant tourist destination so that might explain some of it as well. I will say though, I don't even particularly care to interact with my neighbors unless they initiate it. Have barely spoken to my next d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 03:52 PM
2

Choosing VHS over Betamax as the preferred format for porn? Lol.was mostly just making a joke about tape formats.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 03:44 PM
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Nah, most people just need to Betamax to enjoy a short period of success. The real suckers VHS-max.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 12:37 PM
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Tbh it's not even so much discomfort about that. I just don't care to socialize with most people and think it's a waste of energy to make small talk. I've had plenty of people ask me for directions and whatnot and I'll oblige them if necessary, but honestly, I just don't care most of the time. If I'm out and about, I don't want others bothering me, because that's not usually (or ever) the reason I go out to do anything. If I want to be social, I have friends for that, or can go to a social event…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 12:03 PM
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If you want to live on your own you need an income. Income is necessary for functioning and thriving. You can't be attractive to quality partners if you aren't functioning, let alone thriving.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 10:38 PM
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Yea, burnout is no joke. A relationship can survive through it, but it isn't a fun experience. I'd rather not have a job than be overworked if it came down to it. Tbf, I'd rather not have a job than have to commute to so I obviously prioritize some stuff differently than a lot of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 09:04 PM
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Hilariously enough, my gf and I have last names that if combined in a certain way, sound like part of a title for a comic book. But seriously, some last names just either look really weird written, or just sound..... bleh. Like this dude. No offense, but I don't know anyone that wants the last name "Crapper".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 09:00 PM
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It's a name. Who gives a fuck. It's up to the couple ultimately. CMV. People getting married should either keep their last names or take the name that sounds cooler, or better yet, combine their last names into something awesome. Some names just SOUND bleh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 08:55 PM
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Clearly I was fine with it, because we started dating in college and she finished her undergrad in 2.5 years total. I'd only ever want to be a in a relationship with someone that's from a similar-ish background and equally educated/accomplished as I am. I see zero downside to becoming more educated for the most part, and when it comes to career, the one thing I am always adamant about for myself is work-life balance, and I'm always cognizant of how my girlfriend's balance is as well. Tbh, I'd be…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 08:52 PM
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There's lots of things I like about myself, and I'd say that I'm definitely a catch, but I wouldn't want to date someone exactly like me. Equivalent accomplishments and background, sure. Equivalent personality, prob not. I'm too mellow to date someone equally mellow, and I prefer a partner who counterbalances my quirks instead of one that matches them. As it stands now, I've been in a relationship for 7.5 years and she and I are roughly equally accomplished and have a great dynamic, but I wouldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 02:40 AM
1

Oregon coast is fun. Lassen Volcanic national park is an absolute gem too. But idk how much you'd wanna go to a national park alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 04:47 PM
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But what about Tinder /s. Nevermind that most of the data we see today shows that young people are generally getting around less than the last couple generations did at the same age.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 05:19 AM
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To be fair, the way things are framed by TRP/the manosphere, the logic is very linear. It's basically "if I do X, then I will become Y" or "if I do X, Y will be the result". Between that, and the need to put EVERY SINGLE DAMN THING into a hierarchy, you get a lot of statements that are absolutely bonkers. There is also some level of.... a lot of ultra-transactional views playing into a lot of these ideas/statements. The squishy/human stuff that really makes human relationships tick doesn't reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 07:55 PM
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Somewhere in between, really, but most Armenian homes trend more traditional from what I've seen. When you're somewhere.... between cultures, there's a bit of a tightrope walk you gotta do. I think schooling probably was the biggest influence for me there just because I did go to an elite college prep school, which was a very distinct experience that didn't really have me around many other Armenian people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 11:18 PM
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I don't think it's strange, but somewhat paradoxically, I never wanted to date within my culture (Armenian-American) all that much. I identified much more strongly with "American" than I did with "Armenian" growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 11:06 PM
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That probably helps a bit. my ceilings are anywhere between.... maybe 6.5-7 feet in the basement, and 8-8.5 feet upstairs. All the basement fixtures need to be flush-mount and the upstairs ones are close to the ceiling semi-flush mount, except for the kitchen fixture which hangs a bit lower. I do love my place, but the ceilings being kinda low is very typical for these century-old homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 08:55 PM
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How high is that ceiling though? haha. I generally like fixtures that are more on the fun side, but I am pretty particular about making sure they fit the character of the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 08:52 PM
2

For sure. Luckily, I think the larger point I am making still stands. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 08:45 PM
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Tbh, I find a lot of content on this sub a bit funny, because I am someone who really has no interest in casual stuff, and has been off the market for a while from a pretty young age, but to me it's pretty obvious that you need to approach any type of romantic interaction with the idea that nothing is guaranteed, and carrying hard feelings from the interactions is only going to be a burden on you. In a general sense, treating people as if they have value, but knowing how to lead the flow of a co…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 08:45 PM
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Yea, I caught that. Still think social interaction in a general sense can be summed up as "garbage in, garbage out" to some extent. If you half-ass your effort, it shouldn't be surprising if the other person has zero interest. Conversely, social awareness is required to calibrate and know if your effort will be reciprocated. If not, it means you need to examine that piece better.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 08:40 PM
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Fair, just skipped in a word when reading quickly. But the implication is that he thinks he has to do certain things for him to get certain results. Tbh, I think social interaction is a garbage in, garbage out situation a lot of the time. Sometimes effort isn't reciprocated, but that's what social awareness is for as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 08:39 PM
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Ok but tbf it sounds like she wasn't gonna put in much effort either. Maybe, maybe not. Not like any of us were there to actually know what's happening. If you want to say that the social expectation around men approaching means that men largely are doing a lot of the early-stage lift to build a connection, fine, but that's been the societal expectation for generations. The options here are either..... break down gendered expectations and actively push for changes to how people interact, or just…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 08:36 PM
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Lol HAVE to? Really? Nobody is forcing you to do so. Doesn't change the fact that the instance you described was you half-assing it and them not feeling it at all though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 08:30 PM
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Pretty much. I'm sure that some people I work with think I'm a flippant dick that is probably a bit too candid. Still probably is better for my career to be that way than to be too buttoned-up, imo. Then again, in my personal life, I'm described as very very mild-mannered and gentle. Everyone has masks they wear for a specific purpose ime, so it's just a matter of parsing which masks are being worn when and what someone's personality is when their guard is down.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 08:14 PM
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The more phallic the light fixtures, the more manly the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 08:11 PM
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lol. But I've been in an LTR for..... 7.5 years now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 08:11 PM
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"Asshole" is such an undefined term on PPD. People here use it to mean anything from.... "has a bit of a spine" to..... "probably is a felon". Its definition on this sub is meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 08:08 PM
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Not as sexy as clean 100 year old double-hung windows that open/close smoothly. But still pretty sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 08:07 PM
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Well, when you start buying appliances and light fixtures, how can you be anything but old? As a new geriatric, I am going to go clean my gutters soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 08:02 PM
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Sounds like the perfect light fixture for.... checks notes a sex dungeon, maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 08:02 PM
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To me this just sounds like.... you half-assed approaches to people whom you weren't REALLY interested in, and are bent out of shape that they somehow weren't receptive to said half-assed approach, lol. That isn't people being picky. That's just people not wanting to be treated as if they are disposable. Some people also are interested in casual sex, but plenty of people have zero interest. Online dating is ass anyway for a variety of reasons though. To add, even as a guy, a woman treating me as…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 07:56 PM
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What is everyone's favorite type of light fixture here? Examples would be great. I got this one for my office, which looks pretty dope, but it hasn't been installed yet
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 07:53 PM
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I'm pretty sure they'd hate both,but apparently PPD decided to go to bat for johns today.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 07:04 AM
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I believe it's entirely irrelevant to the original post. But a man visiting a prostitute is significantly more trashy than any man or woman having casual sex. Casual sex in some circles is seen as fine, in others, not so much. There's degrees to how trashy it is or is not, but that's not really relevant to the original post. The more apt comparison is men who visit prostitutes to sex workers, but both are looked down upon largely. Mind you, my opinion here isn't really what matters. Just common …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 04:55 AM
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People who have sex in public restrooms are trashy too. Not really sure there's much else to say there. For at least some subset of people (a pretty large one, really), being trashy/low class is a deal-breaker. Not really anything shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 04:49 AM
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I mean, I said what I said without making such an assumption about their backgrounds, but k. Still think seeing a prostitute is low-class behavior. Is what it is. I'm not the one that made the rules on that. Sex work in general is perceived as low class as a whole, and I highly doubt that ever changes. Women who have options or the privilege not to generally do not engage in sex work pretty much as a rule from what I've seen. Of course, exceptions do exist, but still. Also seems to me that women…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:24 AM
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Not be the type of dude that looks to take the easy way out. Duh. If you want quality, be quality. Thinking in terms of your own "number" already is an indication of poor quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:02 AM
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My thoughts are that johns are trashy and being a john is a massive red-flag that will scare off any and all quality partners. The average man doesn't need to be anything spectacular to be above average. When 2/3 of men are overweight, just by being in relatively good shape, that's a huge advantage. Even with career attainment, the bar is pretty low.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:58 AM
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I generally care more about consistency in a person's values than I do about their specific politics, but I find that the values I always held in the highest regard strongly align with more left-leaning politics. If someone is an honest, kind, generous, accepting, fair, open-minded generally conscientious person in their personal life, but their politics are spiteful, hateful, myopic, etc. I would consider them to have incompatible values with me specifically because of the political positions t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:53 AM
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The point is, you are missing the point here, you are not after a wife, you are after attractive children, That's the insane maladjusted part of it. Plus you still need to subject yourself to a miserable 40 years based on your own example. You are not after being loved, share expenses yada yada, drink coffee together in the morning, no, that is not the point, Of course it's not. People on this sub literally have no concept of what genuine human connection or actually liking your partner is like.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:50 AM
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This might be the most ridiculous thing I've read on here in the last..... idk, maybe week? You have to be a special kind of fuck-up to need to go abroad to find a wife. Plus this type of lifestyle just sounds miserable. Imagine burning your entire life up until 40 working just so that you can go find a gold-digger in a foreign country. Absolutely repulsive. This is how you guarantee that you never have genuine human connection with a partner, if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:41 AM
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My thoughts on it are that it's repulsive at a visceral level and so far beneath me that I wouldn't even consider it as a real option. It's not a pride/ego thing. It's a "this shit is gross" thing. Genuine human connection > transactions. Also straight up, I think it's just low class and a sign of poor taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 03:45 AM
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Yea, I think the cold approach-only approach to dating only really works for guys who don't actually care if they connect THAT well with a person, or if they even really like their partner or not, since it's SO geared towards short-term only results. Also tend to just think those relationships are going to be built on a superficial base, so you already start with an assumption that it won't last. For LTRs, it's maybe the worst strategy to find something that's lasting and sustainable, but I know…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 02:34 AM
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Oh yea, I figured, was just kinda noting some additional info. Like, just anecdotally, I've been in a relationship for..... 7.5 years now, with a woman whom I was introduced to by my ex. Even knowing that we both thought my ex was the worst was legitimately a huge thing we connected over at the time. We weren't even super close before my ex and I broke up, but even knowing of each others existence was a huge factor in building our relationship. With cold approaches, obviously, you get none of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 02:13 AM
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I'm pretty sure like, 1/3 of this sub could be diagnosed as sex addicts, at least. I'm only like, half-kidding.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 02:05 AM
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Yea, the thing I called out in my comment was that you can skip steps of like, the getting to know you stage if you have a warm interaction vs. a cold one. For someone who finds small talk and meeting new people massively tiresome, that's a huge draw to like, knowing people and meeting people via those friends/connections.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 01:53 AM
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Eh, I don't think social interaction with strangers is even super necessary as long as you build a quality social circle and learn how to nurture social relationships effectively. A lot of people are very uncomfortable with the idea of dating someone off of "cold" interactions (that is, interactions where you know fuck-all about a person) and I'd say many people in this camp still seem to have fine relationships. With those "cold" social connections, you do need to spend time building up to more…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 01:11 AM
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I would love a source on that divorce rate stat, because that is clearly pulled out of your ass. Plus divorce is heavily demographic-dependent, so I don't think raw divorce rate is super instructive. Divorce rate for 1st marriages for different demos would be more interesting, but at the end of the day, relationships aren't just a statistic and real life circumstances determine if they survive or not. Anyway, as for the rest.... If dating were effective: tinder, bumble, hinge, bars, and nightclu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 12:58 AM
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Pretty much. I reminisce far more strongly about like, previous year's fantasy basketball team I've had than I ever have about an ex, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 10:49 PM
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Can confirm. The only reason my ex even registers to me as having existed in the past is because she is quite literally the reason I was introduced to my girlfriend now. And even then, it's a faint "oh yea, that was a thing, wasn't it".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 10:40 PM
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Utter nonsense, you don't need an arranged marriage for that. Dating within your social circle is enough to find someone with a similar background. Not really sure what your angle is here, I don't think waiting to have sex until marriage or not meaningfully matters either, but I'd rather have a typical Western relationship than any type of arranged marriage. The whole process of the "arranging" skips the organic cultivation of closeness that is a draw for early-stage dating. Arranged marriages p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 08:55 PM
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And..... why does that matter? I think so many people in this space fail to realize that if you have a good connection with someone, that transcends a lot of the superficial aspects of someone's existence. Expecting yourself to be the best everything a partner has ever had is utterly insane, and a partner expecting you to be the best everything they've ever had is legitimately sociopathic and so out of the realm of reality that they need someone to check them on their bullshit. Luckily most rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 08:32 PM
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I don't even think 150 is really crazy for a place that's at least somewhat nice. Then again, one of the things I look for in a partner is someone who has good taste, or at least, taste I consider compatible. Someone suggesting an expensive restaurant that I'd consider to be overrated or.....more flash than substance (e.g. I'd prefer a less trendy, more informal but traditional sushi place, over more trendy, flashier, but more Americanized) is not my vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 11:20 PM
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My first date with my girlfriend was a Thai place that came out to under $20 for the two of us back in 2014. You weren't getting much cheaper than that back then. We also both like super local or higher end places now, but obviously it's been a long time since we were early in our relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 11:07 PM
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I'm pretty sure like, 1/4 of this sub needs to start regularly seeing a therapist or psychiatrist, of those that aren't already. The amount of maladjustment all over this sub lately is so sad, and I feel like it's only gotten more toxic over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 12:05 AM
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This sub has gotten even more mentally ill than normal. I legitimately hope that a large team of psychiatrists finds this place and gets the neediest ones here the help they need.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 12:00 AM
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You don't need to be socially incompetent to not go on a date for years? That's the scenario you gave, and to not get a single date for years is literally outlier tier socially incompetent. Dear lord. What the hell are you even talking about? No it doesn't. I can get famous off cooking but that wouldn't give me social skills. Are you high? To become famous off a niche skill, or off of a talent, you need to have the charisma to draw people's attention. If you are so socially incompetent that you …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 11:56 PM
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What's more instructive would be looking at the death tolls of governments that are authoritarian vs. not, if anything imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 10:03 PM
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That doesn't really mean anything. You can spends years trying to get date. Then when you finally get a date she might cancel, flake, or might nor agree to a second one. You have to be so horribly socially incompetent to fall into this scenario that you are an outlier to a pretty big degree imo. And even then, the skills required to become famous almost are invariably the same types of skills required to be socially competent and date normally. Edit: A dude who becomes famous in spite of his com…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 09:46 PM
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Is it easier to get a date or to become famous? The very obvious answer is that it's orders of magnitude easier to get a date than it is to become famous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 09:39 PM
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I mean, fair. Which is a bit funny since I found PPD when I was..... ~18 and wasn't really socially competent back then. I had a short phase of wanting casual experiences, decided I found them mentally boring, and before I knew it, was with my current partner. I think people here also honestly just don't realize you can walk and chew gum at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 08:01 PM
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Yea I pretty much agree with this. Having a thriving career means better health, better fashion, better food, and.... Largely just a better lifestyle. And for the most part, all this career growth has come with a much better work-life balance. Because of this, I mostly live a life I want, present how I want, and have the means to do what I want. I don't want a flashy lifestyle and I am not a particularly showy person, but it's nice to not have to stress about money/overall life stability. Plus I…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 07:52 PM
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Ok that's fair, but they are not desirable to the types of people they want to be desirable to either, from what I've seen/heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 09:57 PM
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Waaaah, someone else bought those call options at half the price that I did. It's unfair! But seriously, it's basically that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 09:54 PM
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Maybe so, but then do those men and those women seem happy with each other? Doesn't seem like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 09:54 PM
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Right? Especially when so many people, men and women both, are horrifyingly dysfunctional on their own. Even if structural problems exist, the personal issues people have don't just stop existing. They still are very much real and directly in their control. Like, if you want to be really clinical about it, the median American man is still pretty overweight and hasn't finished college, and probably makes.... sub-50k/year, maybe on the high end for full time employed. None of those are...... reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 09:47 PM
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Generally a rule follower, unless I genuinely think the rule is useless or dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 09:06 PM
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Yea, what even is PPD's definition of this? lol. Being in an LTR means being used for $$$ now?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 10:48 PM
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On my old driver's license, I look too much like the guy who did the Boston Bombing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 09:00 PM
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Frankly, I have never once cared about my friend's sex lives, lmao. Not something that I care about or need to know about at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 05:46 PM
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PPD is just a weird place. Some people don't talk about sex or their sex lives much, even if they are relatively active. It's called..... being a private person, but PPD also is full of oversharers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 05:39 PM
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How many do you believe is a statistically significant sample size? lol, it's like these people don't actually understand how random sampling works. 2313 is a huge sample. Fucking hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 04:54 PM
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I mean, I think that depends on how well you compartmentalize really. Every single other interaction in my life and every relationship I have with others in my life is exceedingly wholesome and positive so this is more of a vestige of my old online habits (since I found this place so freaking long ago) than it is about anything else. Can't really take it too seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 04:26 AM
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Lol this sub is absolutely fucking bonkers. The FDS and Pink Pill types just stir the pot and seeing the all-out brawls of people trying to one-up each other on trash behavior is impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 04:17 AM
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This validates some of my take further down, I think. The sociological context really is pretty important here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 06:26 PM
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Nah, your point makes enough sense but I think you're reading too far into it. I usually see "buying black" as an extension of people buying local and supporting the black community in their area, but it generally seems to be of pretty limited scope ime. I think most of it is posturing and isn't going to really affect purchase decisions so much as the quality of the good or service. Asians already do heavily support Asian businesses in their local area here. Nobody cares or makes a big deal abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 06:03 PM
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I think the idea that identity was never political is entirely fallacious, in all honesty. I'd argue that identity, if anything, is inherently political, as long as humans can't eradicate bias based on identity. I think you can easily support specific local ethnic groups without resorting to tribalism though, and in general, buying local is significantly better from a quality/community standpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 05:53 PM
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Oh 100%. I just had to do an interviewer training for work and a good chunk of that was how to work around your biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 05:33 PM
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I truly think it's hilarious, just because...... both sides have been so blind to the similarities imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:30 PM
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For sure, I have the perspective of being very on the fence because I grew up in an Armenian household in a heavily Armenian community, while predominantly having white American and Asian-American friends. As far as how this impacted my dating life, I only ever dated people in my social circles, rather than people from the same ethnic community. My sister on the other hand has a boyfriend who is Armenian.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:29 PM
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Masculinity across different subcultures varies pretty widely from what I've seen. I'm "white" by any census definition, but identify as Armenian-American given my cultural background and ancestry. Within the Armenian-American community specifically, attitudes towards masculinity are more traditional than they are in mainstream American culture. The average Armenian-American young man is very much in that vein of being a hustler. Usually they are car guys, and often fashion themselves as smooth-…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:18 PM
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They removed it after the OP said it was a copy and paste from FDS lol. This is the type of quality content TBP used to have years and years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:06 PM
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We got space force, but it is so much more lame than Starfleet Command
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:00 PM
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The feeling when the last president tries to speed-run the Nixon administration. And we didn't even get an EPA out of it :(
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 03:30 PM
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Nah, blue pill, if it even remotely applies to an ideology, just stands in opposition to the red pill. Letting TRP define FDS as "blue pill" is allowing them to pin something that a lot of anti-TRP people find distasteful onto them anyway. From what I've seen, most people got the same visceral ick factor to both places. Check the comments in the TBP thread. Can't really say that group approves of FDS at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 03:24 PM
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Yea, it's clear as day to me, which is why FDS always had the same ick factor to me that TRP did. I find it hilarious that I've had a couple FDSers accuse me of being part of the manosphere at one time or another, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 03:17 PM
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Man it's been a minute since I went on the TBP sub but this is fucking hilarious. https://www.reddit.com/r/thebluepill/comments/t7chvt/_/ TRP and FDS truly are a match for each other. Love at first sight.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:59 PM
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If you're talking about my personal experience as a man on the autism spectrum, the main thing was that before I was diagnosed, I had issues with socialization and reading body language/facial expressions, and also with keeping up with some conversations when too much was going on at one time. Because of those socialization issues I developed some very nasty social anxiety which I had to work through. However, this all mostly resolved itself around 20ish (12 when I was diagnosed). Between 12 and…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:34 PM
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Eh, with more severe autism, sometimes the facial expressions the person makes are not going to make the most sense. With high functioning autism, you could potentially mimic neurotypical people pretty damn well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:24 PM
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Uhhhh, some people DO like having social connections that go deeper than just surface-level interactions. Being close to other people feels good for some people, and that type of closeness is something that some people want. Edit: In this case some is probably vastly understating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 06:06 AM
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I think.... Who cares. Do what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 05:08 PM
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fainting couches I didn't realize Niles Crane started to post on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 04:08 PM
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But what about lifting? Have you heard about how all REAL MENTM lift?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 03:56 PM
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I assumed bluepill just meant “normie shit”. If it sounds like something a group of college progressives would give as dating advice, its bluepill. I mean, it's pretty much this. Do not listen to what reds say. They are normie-world rejects. Source: Been around PPD for 8ish years, still not red.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 03:55 PM
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My apparently semi-controversial opinion is that we should have safe injection sites here because maybe then, people wouldn't fuck up public restrooms nearly as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 03:32 PM
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Your city has public bathrooms? Lol. Finding a public restroom downtown here is a pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 02:54 PM
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That's extrapolating where there isn't really any data to support it that I have seen. Could what you're saying be true? Maybe but until I see hard data that substantiates it, I'll hold off on making any assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 07:56 PM
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I guess if the quality is already in the sewer, it's really hard to go any lower lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 05:02 PM
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Heh, I had someone argue to me that the data I presented in one of my comments was incorrect because..... Allegedly women lie and this means that the data must be junk. Actually, when I put it that way, ok, that's been the norm here for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 04:40 PM
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Meh, I know what you are about lmao. But yea you're right, the main posts are fucking bonkers rn.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:49 PM
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Lol Smurf you got a link? I swear, the people here are special. It's really really entertaining, if a little sad, but I also realize that my perspective on this sub is strange because my life, ironically, is so normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:47 PM
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"The Incel Brigade" just sounds so.... Cringe. What are they going to do, eradicate their enemies with the combined stink of their unwashed clothes? But seriously, it's so bad. Between the n count obsession and people arguing that you can't believe data because it contradicts their poorly constructed reality, I'm bewildered at how insane these people are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:39 PM
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Fair, but the new crop of posters is just... Bleh. Then again, this sub has been a shithole for years so idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:36 PM
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Yea if anything, people just view those ultra-transactional relationships as very blatantly trashy. Nobody regards either party highly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:31 PM
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It's amazing what stories people make up about the world when they don't go outside and actually interact with it. In reality... Nobody cares. Remember kids, the only body count worth thinking about is the metal band.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:24 PM
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Why does it feel like this sub has been even more unhinged than normal in the last few days.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:22 PM
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Eh, I wouldn't take that leap and just assume here. That data also could easily include people who had a hookup and decided never again which would make that number given slightly higher. Could maybe see both numbers for men and women being a smidge higher overall but the general trend is clearly less hookups vs previous generations which is the salient information.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 12:17 PM
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Eh, median based on CDC data was 4.3 for sexually active women and 6.3 for men. Even excluding super trads, median is prob closer to 8 or 9 than it is to 15. But yea, when it comes to how hookups are, most people prob have at least one, a good chunk end up not caring for the experience or disliking it, and a minority are more likely to enjoy it overall imo. I think that's a safe enough assumption with these stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 12:14 PM
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The irony of all of this is that I am actually diagnosed on the spectrum. I don't think it's an autistic brain thing. It's a delusional thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 08:46 AM
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How the fuck did you get that from my comment? Lol. I don't think succeeding on dating apps or not determines how much of a winner or loser someone is. Frankly, I don't even think how much casual sex someone has determines that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 07:51 AM
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I'll look into this later. I was using the data that was already in that original study I linked.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 07:48 AM
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In this case, you are making an affirmative claim that women lying about sex makes the data presented inaccurate. Please provide your proof that the data is inaccurate. I'd argue that the data presented is more accurate than any conjecture, as we can look at lifetime partner counts and roughly determine the degree of lie. In this case, the women's median is 4.3 lifetime (for women 25-49) and men's is 6.3 for the same age cohort. Based on this, even if you assume that women lie down from their "t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 04:51 AM
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I actually like the article you posted, but I disagree with your take. Fair enough. If we're arguing that sociosexuality is higher in men than in women, to say that it is likely more of a choice for women is probably accurate, but my take on it, in a general sense, is that fewer men and women in general are having casual sex, in addition to the stated effect of fewer people having sex overall. Just taking a quick look at the numbers, men went from 18-30% as far as sexlessness in that last year, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 04:42 AM
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Women lie about their sexual activity even if their answers are anonymous in order to save face. Lol, what a bullshit line of argument. It's literally "don't trust what you see or hear, because reasons". If you don't want to believe the data, fine, but when every single piece of data supports the conclusion that young men and young women are having less casual sex, I'll believe those over the conjecture of some rando on reddit. Men are having less sex, explaining the decrease. Literally in the a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 04:21 AM
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And I'm saying that if you find a person that's worth it, it is better to take a swing on it and see where it takes you than adhere to some strict rule that pairing up too early is wrong. Life happens. Sometimes you meet people that ARE worth it and sometimes it's at a time in your life where you don't necessarily expect it. When you meet those people, if you are reasonably sure that they meet the expectations you'd have, you take it and see where it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 04:10 AM
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How would a long term relationship add to your life once it’s ended tho? Who says it's guaranteed to end? And who says that the relationship had to end on a negative note? I've straight up gotten new LTRs from an LTR that ended, as a result of activities that only occurred due to that relationship, for example. If you have a crappy relationship with every one of your exes, that sounds like a you problem, not a problem with LTRs as a general relationship archetype. If two people break up on amica…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:51 AM
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PPD is turning into some weird-ass self-flagellating erotica written by a subset of very inexperienced men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:43 AM
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Fun fact. Since the advent of dating apps, fewer people are having casual sex than prior to dating apps becoming widespread. Adolescents and young adults are increasingly less likely to have sexual intercourse outside of a romantic relationship, but the causes of this decline in casual sex have not been rigorously evaluated. We use data from the PSID-TAS to quantify the sources of the decrease in young adult casual sexual activity between 2007 and 2017. We find that about one quarter of the drop…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:41 AM
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The thing I find odd about this. Casual relationships seem FAR more effort intensive than a healthy committed LTR. Constantly needing to repeat the effort to meet people and build relationships seems far more time consuming than just..... doing it once, having an established relationship, and building that alone. Plus casual stuff is mind-numbingly boring for a lot of people. Some people just straight up don't value casual sex that much. I'd estimate that this number is higher than what most on …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:34 AM
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Maybe, but I tend to think that definition is flawed since..... trad/conservative with someone that wants it is.... totally unobjectionable? I can see how it would be unwelcome and could come off poorly to people who don't share those tastes/values though, and it's incumbent on the person expressing their masculinity to understand their audience, time/place, and the social context they exist in, imo. I think one could argue that poorly calibrated social skills are a negative element of the mascu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 10:14 PM
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There's plenty of book-smart people who have the social intelligence of a potted plant. It really is amazing. Even something like being able to crack jokes, engage in conversations with new people easily, or adapt your approach to an interaction based on social cues are forms of intelligence that the fine STEMlords of PPD constantly seem to forget exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 10:04 PM
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but i kind of agree with him, mainly because the definition of what counts as toxic masculinity by some today is… well, everything. violence, rage, abuse, lack of emotional control- this is what i consider to be toxic masculinity. I'm not so sure I agree with this. Generally though, my definition of toxic masculinity is.... "behavior associated with male/masculine gender roles that hurts the man behaving that way or other people". One certainly doesn't need to hurt themselves or others to be con…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 09:59 PM
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Disagree. I don't think being masculine necessitates being toxic at the same time. I think of it as a relationship where toxic behavior CAN appear to be masculine, but masculine behavior does not HAVE TO BE toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 09:55 PM
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Lol, this legit sounds exhausting. Sounds like hypothetical guy here is probably on uppers ALL THE TIME. This type of behavior is weird and inconsistent though. It's weird and inconsistent and weird (did I mention this behavior is weird) no matter the gender of the person acting this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 09:53 PM
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Sounds about right. It honestly would be more effort for me to filter out people I'm not a fit with than it is to just selectively interact with the people I think I'd like. Plus fame brings a certain connotation that I don't want attached to me. I specifically like that my life is very low-key and my girlfriend is very much like that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 07:09 PM
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Also, who wants to be famous? The idea of having any kind of widespread fame repulses me. I already interact with people more than I'd ever like to because of work lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 06:03 PM
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Lol wtf is this post? When the fuck has buying flowers for someone ever been too much or weird except when someone is oblivious to signs. If you're in an LTR it's pretty much always appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 05:14 PM
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Posts like this are why I say that PPD has a stick up its ass the size of a fully grown redwood tree.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 05:46 PM
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I mean, were I to date again, I'd pretty much avoid using dating apps as well, but equating social media to a dating app is an imperfect comparison anyway. I don't see them as the same because dating apps have very narrow functionality and utility, whereas social media definitely has a wider utility just due to the nature of usage and the platform. I've always preferred meeting people via established in-person connections and mutual friends, and that's worked out phenomenally well. Also, I just …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 05:32 PM
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I mean, I haven't actively dated in years as I am in a relationship, but the main reason I never would consider it is because I personally don't broadcast my life on social media at all, and want a partner with relatively similar habits. Using a platform like Instagram self-selects for people that visibly post content on there, which is a relatively different dating pool than what my type has always been. Generally I like people who are more private and low-key, much like myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 05:16 PM
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Lol that's some weird neurotic shit to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:26 PM
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Eh, the only stat I've seen in this is that the best known such platform, as of 2021, had 20 million overall users worldwide, but there's not really much else to go off of. No breakdowns of age, gender, country. As far as I remember, the number of actual prostitutes worldwide is..... 40 million? Based off some quick dirty math, I'd say the number of sex workers would probably be closer to 2-4% of the general population but that's really just an estimation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:19 PM
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This sub vastly overestimates the amount of people who engage in sex work. It's absolutely wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:02 PM
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People who have a net negative impact on others and hurt people in their lives are losers. People who have a net positive impact are winners.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:37 PM
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The only body count that is worth caring about is the band, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 06:50 AM
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I have no idea why people take dating coaches seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 08:45 PM
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I've seen people unironically say that while singing the praises of Fallout: New Vegas. It's legit hilarious to think about given just how political the core of that game is. Tbf I think pretty much any sci-fi game will end up being pretty political just as a consequence of the genre. Think this carries over to plenty of shows in that way as well (e.g. Firefly). Also, yea, pretty much any shooter is inherently making a political statement, but some definitely moreso than others. I went back to F…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 01:01 PM
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Lol right? I find all the nonsense around this especially hilarious given that games themselves are political, much like any other type of media or art. Acting like games somehow were something once pure, untouched by culture is particularly hilarious to me. Video games like any other art will always be marked by the culture of their time, and you really do see this influence all over the place. I always appreciated how this was treated in Fallout in particular though. They did well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:42 AM
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That moment when Fallout had gay marriage in the 90s tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 04:03 AM
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Pretty much. Anxious and avoidant attaching people might as well not exist to me. I have no interest in dignifying behavior which just feels like bullshit mind games.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 07:58 PM
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Lol right? Having a secure attachment type, if anything, makes things super chill and drama free. In an LTR, I'd only look for other people who attach similarly, at least. The more I've read into this stuff though, the more it just seems like... Secure = having healthy boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 07:50 PM
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This thread is a fucking garbage dump. It's literally "I'm making an affirmative claim and my one piece of a proof is a video on TikTok"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 02:37 PM
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Lol, this comment is actually what I was getting at a bit with what I said. Literally, the healthy range for 5'10 that is given is 129-174, from my quick search. Nobody I've known as an adult has ever looked at me and said I look like I starve myself. No doctor has either. My body type, if anything, is very realistic given that I just have a small/light frame. Could always stands to be more active, but nothing about how I am built hinders any day to day activities either. But anyway, yea, extrem…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 01:49 AM
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I tend to think that what matters more is the person's character and values, rather than the particulars of their familial relationships. Plenty of excellent people who happen to have parents who are shitheads. Anecdotally, one of my close friends has a poor relationship with her dad, which culminated in him abandoning her family, then later on, trying to marry her off without her consent. She is a perfectly good person who unfortunately has a dad who sucks ass. Judging someone for the sins of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 12:42 AM
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That 30% number is ridiculous on its face.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:48 PM
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Everyone always assumes I'm more like 150. People are just shit at guessing weight lol. But yea, I am not a large person. Really do think a lot of how someone presents relies on them understanding their own build and knowing how to accentuate their figure in a flattering way, which is the biggest thing. You could look like a Greek god, but if you present like a slob, or like you have zero eye for style or poor taste, that great body means fuck-all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 08:12 PM
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Pretty much, though I think half of it is that you need to hit a base level of fitness, then the other half is knowing how to style and present for your natural body shape/type. I'm what, 5'10, 125ish? I've always just been pretty narrow throughout so I've learned to work with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 07:53 PM
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Pretty much. I'm actually borderline medically underweight (but otherwise healthy) and literally the only people who told me I needed to gain weight were older relatives. If you are even... 17-18% bodyfat in the US (maybe even up to 20%), that body type is probably more in-demand than not, and being at that level isn't particularly difficult as long as you don't eat literal garbage and walk a bit. Edit: the big irony of this is that I'm told my personality is very.... Panda-like, which is very a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 07:44 PM
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I tend to think this is pretty accurate. Even just not being fat alone means you have an acceptable body type to all but a few people ime, and my frame is on the very narrow/skinny side. Even with the way I am built, I've felt absolutely zero pressure to change, at least as far as body type goes. Now I have switched up my style a lot over the years but that is usually fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 07:36 PM
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Just generally seem to be pretty trashy from what I've seen, unfortunately. Granted, not all, but the most visible ones definitely seem to be. Then again, I grew up around a lot of other Armenians and generally just don't like their taste in.... Various things like home design/decor, fashion, art, since I find so much of it to be tacky and gaudy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 03:39 PM
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I'd hope that if I acted like that in any way at all, someone would tell me I'm being awful lol. Granted, getting anywhere near that level of trashiness takes a lot of skill and effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 10:06 PM
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Lol right? He's such a joke. Not sure why people on this sub fixate on this guy so much, especially considering.... everything we know about him. Tbh it really pains me that he's Armenian, because like, even being associated with him in any way (including just due to ethnic background) feels embarrassing, almost. Also makes me realize that..... I find most famous Armenians super nauseating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 09:25 PM
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And..... why does it matter? If your partner proves not to be trustworthy, there's plenty of other people out there who ARE worth that trust. Best thing to do is just surround yourself with good people and live your life without worrying about what some rando is doing, especially when that rando is literally a meme-tier trust fund baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 08:43 PM
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Huh? He's peak gutter trash, lol. Step 1: Date girls who don't like gutter trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 08:34 PM
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I just tend to describe toxic feminity as... The ways which conforming to feminine gender roles and expectations is damaging to women. Same as how toxic masculinity is just the gender flipped version. Even something that is pretty innocuous gets people really worked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 06:59 PM
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PPD went full DENNIS system, hasn't it. Anyway, real men demonstrate their value by purchasing meds for their ill grandmother. This is a known true fact of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 03:28 PM
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Heh, I definitely find that my experiences are pretty unique especially in PPD world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 05:41 AM
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the funny thing is I literally designed an open-ended value calculator for work that allowed for you to assess value across a bunch of different metrics for proposed projects (basically, you defined values that converted to points). Actually was interesting, but it shows how ridiculous this premise is in general. Value in a business context is way clearer than in a social context.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 12:51 AM
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This sounds about right. Like, even thinking about my own relationship, my girlfriend now is someone whom I think would prefer to remain single rather than to date around, from every indication I've seen. The idea that she has some undefined options has never even crossed my mind. She isn't out there trying to get male attention and really doesn't seem to desire it either. In our 7+ years together, I think we've pretty much had someone try to make a move on us an equal amount of times, but it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 06:23 PM
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Lol the abundance of options thing is hilarious because it's 100% men projecting their sexuality onto women then expecting women to act the way they hypothetically would. Plus there's plenty of women who are relatively attractive who also don't make an effort to get attention from others for whatever reason, and as such, get relatively little attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 06:08 PM
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Some of my hobbies are playing and/or modding Fallout: New Vegas, watching live streams of pandas and the Katmai National Park grizzly bears, watching city council meetings, collecting and drinking tea, fantasy basketball and football (mostly dynasty, I'm amazing at fantasy basketball), playing actual basketball, watching basketball and football, herding my cat, nerding out over appliances (mostly my induction range and light bulbs/fixtures), taking public transit (my pet issue), cooking, readin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 12:30 AM
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This fucking subreddit is meme tier. Dear lord. Literally based on the only stats I have found on this, like 20% of men and 4% of women have attended strip clubs in the last year. In normie dating world, strip clubs are barely something that register as something to care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 07:36 AM
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lol I've been on and off of this sub for legit about 8 years now, back when it was maybe 1500-2000 subs. It's such a shithole, but it's entertaining enough. Recently have really cut back on my time here, but a lot of that is also a function of me being bored with work. I don't really take anything from here and apply it to my life so much as just..... observe how absurd some of the people here are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 06:07 PM
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New idea, go pet your cat! It will fix your day. And he's adorable. Also, how is Hops doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 09:05 PM
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Best solution I can think of is..... provide adequate mental healthcare resources and invest in early childhood development/education/socialization. There's not really much else that can be done at a societal level, but giving people the resources they need at a young age and setting them up so that they have better overall outcomes is really it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 08:58 PM
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I should just RES tag you as PPD's resident nice lawyer. RIP your day though, maybe you need to find someone to help you litigate this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 08:07 PM
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One of my best friend's dad worked for the LA County sheriff's department. I never had a huge issue with him but he also always talked about how awful his co-workers were. Of course, with what we know about that department and the fact that they had legit gangs running the place, I'm not surprised at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 07:46 PM
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Yep, best of luck to you and I hope your business continues to grow. Succeeding in that world takes a level of drive that I greatly respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 07:43 PM
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I know plenty of chill, relaxed law folks and plenty of loud-mouth, blowhard tech, finance, academic, and medical bros. Lol, right? One of my best friends from childhood is finishing up law school this year and he's legit the nicest most down-to-earth person I've met.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 07:41 PM
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I mean, I have no idea where you are from, tbf. But yea, income/class also are a huge factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 07:38 PM
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I mean, obesity in America still IS very much a variable thing based on a bunch of factors such as location (both urban vs. rural and city/state specific), social class/income, and education (probably related to social class/income, but worth noting). America is heavily obese/overweight, but you still see a lot more of that at lower income levels, in rural areas, and in red states. More well-off coastal cities tend to not really have those same absurd obesity rates. Both the city I grew up in an…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 06:56 PM
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Heh, I figured. Helped me refine my thought process a bit and interrogate the underpinnings of a bit more and WHY I want what I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 06:37 PM
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I don't fundamentally have an issue with small businesses, but I've spent my entire life around small businesses/startups (family/relatives are heavily in that world, and I majored in entrepreneurship for my undergrad) and I can pretty confidently say I wouldn't love to deal with the challenges of being in that world personally. During my time in college I actually started a small drink company, and ended up choosing not to pursue it long term because I found it to be stressful in a way that was…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 06:27 PM
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I asked because there are a couple of things at play here. A law grad may lack ambition/drive to grind it out in private practice/inhouse or may not value that track instead valuing a societal contribution more. In either case, their talent/intelligence may not be in question. Yea, that makes sense. In that case, the career path/talent isn't really much of a question, I'd imagine. Big thing would just be figuring out long-term life goal compatibility at that point, which is really where a lot of…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 06:26 PM
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Depends on the specifics on room for growth there, I'd think. If you want to get more granular, that desired income level is mostly about lifestyle and future planning considerations, but I kinda treat it as a shorthand for.... Talent/career competence as well. Generally though, I'd expect that someone who is talented and qualified, even at a nonprofit, would have the type of career progression that would be sufficient. Damn you for making me think in a more nuanced way lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 06:10 PM
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Depends on the specifics but I really would only ever consider a relationship with someone who had at least equal career attainment to me. This pretty much means a white collar job with plenty of room for growth that pays at/near 6 figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 06:04 PM
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My ex introduced us while I was dating her, then we broke up. My now-girlfriend and I really bonded over how awful my ex was, mostly. That was 7 years ago, when I was 19 and in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:27 AM
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Not really. The closest thing I got to formal dating advice was conversations with a therapist I had in my teen years, and even then, his advice was more to treat general issues around socialization than it was about dating specifically. The therapy was definitely effective with regards to making me more socially competent though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:02 AM
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Plaster tends to have way better sound-proofing and just looks better. It's also resistant to mold, which is an issue with a lot of drywall if I remember right. My current place is an old home built in the 20s so most of the upstairs (sans the bathroom, which was re-done by the previous owners) is plaster walls. Basement walls are either concrete or drywall. There really isn't anything wrong with the drywall, but it def doesn't look as nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 12:00 AM
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*gypsum But also, as much as I love plaster walls, fucking hell I hate hanging pictures on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 11:53 PM
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Lol right? Even something like.... Idk, organizing concerts when I was in college registers to most people I've met as extremely cool/fun. Of course I was taken by the time that started though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 08:44 PM
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I've learned to cope with this sub with humor, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 03:10 PM
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Lol, I was being extremely sarcastic. I didn't think it would be taken literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 02:56 PM
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By the time a woman is 30, they literally are basically 40. Did you not get the memo?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 02:52 PM
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Fun thing about dating and social class to note. The idea that someone's dating pool widens significantly as they climb the economic ladder is really flawed from what I've seen. Most UMC+ white collar people will seem to date within their class and would not date up or down too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 02:51 PM
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Interesting anecdote, but my girlfriend and I (and my two best friends from childhood) both have opposite gender siblings that are roughly the same age. I'd say socially, my sister and my gf's brother both had it easier than my girlfriend or I did. Academically, they were both held to significantly lower standards than either of us were. On the flipside, my girlfriend and I are both significantly higher achievers than our younger siblings, to a pretty drastic degree (and really, all of our frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 12:11 AM
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Meh, if you don't like how you look do something about it, but I have a similar-ish body type and that literally has never been a concern that crossed my mind. The big things for someone to get right with a lanky/skinny body type are to know how to dress for it and style for it really. The rest is just.... Being a fun engaging person that people like to be around. Forgot one more thing. Not being inhibited and having a giant stick up your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 08:40 PM
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When you can guess what model of induction range I use, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:43 PM
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A pretty big variety of stuff really. Definitely enjoy making kebabs which is tricky with just an oven, but I've gotten it right now. I've also done things like corned beef, braised pork shoulder, scratch made pasta sauce, soups, stews, Thanksgiving turkey (which got especially high praise), scratch made teriyaki, pumpkin pie made with fresh pumpkins, tacos made with marinated steak, curries (both Thai and Indian). There's more but those are a good sampling. Big one I struggle with is fried rice…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 12:47 PM
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I'm a pretty good cook, if not super high effort. When I actually make high effort meals they are always greatly appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 12:26 PM
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Quite literally, I sometimes bring induction cooking to the (dinner) table.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 12:18 PM
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I tend to disagree with this in a couple ways. It's not that not aligning with TRP is a status symbol. It's that for people who are MC+, TRP just straight up isn't a good explanation of their lived reality. I know that's always been the case with me specifically at least. The behaviors that a lot of reds on this sub talk about are just entirely foreign to me. Also it's definitely not subconscious to note that TRP itself has much stronger appeal to working and lower class individuals. Not really …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 12:01 PM
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There is only one right answer to this post. Induction cooking. I sometimes really do bring induction cooking to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 11:02 AM
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PPDs understanding of wealth/class in this thread is horrifying, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 06:45 AM
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For the millionth time, I can't wait to leave Los Angeles. The best parts of LA are the least polished looking places. Little Tokyo, Little Armenia, Arts District are still my favorite spots when I go back to visit. Weirdly, some of the least superficial friends I have are friends from my childhood in the LA area.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 10:34 PM
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Eh, I actually was aware of this sub and posted here even back then, but..... human behavior doesn't seem to change that much. Mistakes then probably are the same as mistakes now, or even pretty similar. The way people meet may have changed over time, but the substance of interactions doesn't seem to have changed much at all, since relationships still have very major real world components. Regardless, I'm sure I've done/said things in my own relationship even in the last month or two that TRP/PP…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 10:30 PM
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Lmao, by PPD logic, my relationship should have ended one week in. Here we are just...... 7 years+ later. I'm sure I've done things that TRP/PPD world would consider major missteps, and none of that matters now, or even really mattered much at the time. Best way to keep someone's interest is to be authentic and shamelessly yourself, and if they want to play games and not communicate like adults, then who cares. If someone isn't into what I am about, I know there will be plenty of other people wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 07:24 PM
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Lol, why would I care if my children are hot. If/when I have children, the things I care about are ensuring a high quality of life (e.g. as privileged an upbringing or better than my gf and I both got), strong education, mental resilience and creativity, and instilling values like compassion, generosity, and honesty. How attractive or not they are doesn't and would not be something that even crosses my mind. Dear lord PPD is a bizarre (read: fucked up) place. That being said, I've never been wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 05:45 PM
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Success is a massively subjective thing ime. All that matters is that someone thinks they have reached their goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 01:19 AM
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That is really just how it goes in PPD land, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 09:52 PM
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the real grifters are the PUA coaches and course content creators... I don't disagree with this, but these voices are often at the forefront of TRP, so they are the de facto community representatives, whether you like it or not. If you're not like that (and I'd hope you are not), great, but that doesn't somehow absolve the community of having those types of prominent voices imo. That's neither here nor there though, there's a lot of things I've always found distasteful about TRP going back years…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 09:26 PM
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The nonsense also comes from the complete butchering of all things science and history. I don't respect communities that have such a large population of grifters. When the grifters become the thought leaders (and let's be real, so many TRP thought leaders ARE grifters), you can see how that goes, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 09:10 PM
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Lol, TRP really is absolute nonsense most of the time, but I'd arguably say it's even worse for neurodivergent people than it is for people who are neurotypical, in a lot of ways, because most of the material is written from the perspective of someone who is neurotypical and doesn't understand the ways that neurodivergent (and specifically, autism spectrum) brains tend to process things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 09:05 PM
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Gotta respond under automod for this, but I am around the same age and have direct experience with being a neurodivergent man on the autism spectrum, though I have managed totally fine (been in a long LTR, have a good career with a lot of room for growth). I can pretty much say that the one thing that actually helped me form relationships (and for that matter, build better professional/platonic connections) was straight up years worth of therapy specifically designed to help people on the spectr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 09:03 PM
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This fucking sub is so terrible at actually understanding the motivations behind family law. The whole point of child support is to ensure that children who have separated parents can have an improved quality of life and upbringing comparable to that of those with married parents by having access to the resources of both parents (e.g. the custodial and non-custodial parent). Realistically, there are three options here (aside from joint custody w/o any type of monetary support). The non-custodial…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 09:27 AM
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Definitely. I've grown so much as a person, just as she also has. I'd also say that personalities aren't really static things and the more time you spend with someone, the more you adjust yourself to complement them and mirror them to some extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 04:21 AM
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Lol I mean, people on this sub are so massively dramatic that I just can't take it seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 04:19 AM
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That's the hope really. She's genuinely an awesome person and a great life partner, which is more than I could have ever asked for. She also is the reason we have a cat, which is kinda just like, another amazing thing on its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 02:13 AM
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My ex, who was a friend of hers at one point, introduced us to each other while we were together. That was a bit of a tumultuous time and my relationship with my ex was horrible for a ton of reasons, but my girlfriend (planning to propose soon) and I bonded over our mutual dislike of my ex. My ex burned the friendship with my girlfriend to the ground with her behavior (ex. ruining part of my now gf's 18th birthday party, talking about mistreating me really brazenly in front of my now gf), and wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 01:19 AM
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Because the average PPDer is a drama llama and they usually seem to treat anything that doesn't go their way as a direct referendum on their masculinity and who they are as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 11:41 PM
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Some stuff yes, but I've also learned a lot about her as a person over the years, so not all of these things were readily apparent. I also would say we both definitely have changed and grown since we began dating, given both of our ages back then, and the time interval we've been together for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 10:04 PM
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So for context, I've been in a relationship for 7 years, coming up on 8 years this year. There's a ton of things that I appreciate about her. She's an excellent communicator and is very direct and honest. To some people I think she can come off as abrasive and very assertive, but there's very little ambiguity with her, which is great. She's an amazing planner and is unbelievably organized (except with her possessions, oddly) Great with animals She's very competent and accomplished in her career …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 09:56 PM
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PPD is the type of place where everyone pretty much tells on themselves as soon as they type something, ime.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 07:25 PM
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Well, they still aren't struggling half a decade out either. Don't really know what else to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 06:04 PM
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Yea, I have a very normal relationship that I've been in a while, but the stuff that I see talked about on PPD is vanishingly rare in my social circles. Frankly I think everything on this sub boils down to class though. The TRP/manosphere community in general aligns very heavily with a few different demographics that are pretty obvious to those outside that bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 06:03 PM
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“Artists” aren’t the guys populating manosphere forums complaining about women and their impossible dating standards. Hey now, don't be too hard on them. I think you can definitely argue that the manosphere is actually chock full of artists, as long as grifting counts as a type of art.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 05:16 PM
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I tend to disagree with this, if only because I don't believe this is gendered to nearly the degree that it is rooted in class. Someone who grows up economically privileged has a lot more options and freedom than someone who does not. The economic freedom afforded by a privileged upbringing impacts someone's future aspirations far more than the pressure to be economically productive or not that stems from gendered expectations. Someone who grows up working/middle class or below is going to be gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 04:03 PM
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Lmao I literally have a VR headset setting on top of my computer rn that I haven't used in a hot minute (mostly need to set up MO for Fallout 4 and get all that working before I play again). The idea of watching VR porn just straight up never crossed my mind and holds little if any appeal to me. Pro-tip, you can't actually expect the rest of the world to be as unhinged as PPD is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 08:12 AM
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Definitely, even when you try to get out of your bubble a bit, I think so much of one's life is a product of circumstances that you are born into. Also, one other thing of note regarding the stuff from my first comment. Neither me, my girlfriend nor our friends are religious, which is a bit of an anomaly among couples that pair off at younger ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 09:52 PM
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Hah of course. This type of content is always interesting to see people's thoughts on. Regarding things not being so dire, my general belief on this is that there is clear stratification between socioeconomic classes that manifests in relationship dynamics. It isn't an accident that more well-off people marry more frequently, or that education and wealth correlate pretty strongly with relationship stability. For the educated MC+ demographic, especially those that go into white collar professiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 08:53 PM
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I am breaking my hiatus for this comment, but I actually like the premise of this post so wanted to throw in my 2 cents. Me: 26, male, live in a large city, grew up UMC+, went to a high level public university, work in consulting, been in an LTR for 7+ years, planning on getting engaged soon. My friends: All similar age range to me, work in a variety of professional/white collar fields, or in grad school (engineers, law school student, software devs, consultants, project managers and the like, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 08:40 PM
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I never said it wasn't important. I said that physical attraction only has limited utility because there are other components to overall attraction that can make or break your overall attraction to a person despite being physically attracted. Attraction, as a concept, is holistic and encompasses more than physical appearance. A good example of this is if I were to go on a date with someone and I found them insufferable to talk to. Any attraction I would have had to them previously would be gone.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 02:56 AM
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RP men thinking they can get low N waifus in their 30s is one of the funniest revenge fantasies. All of my low N female friends married the same age guy they’d been dating since college. This is accurate and aligns very heavily with what I've seen, and these are the types of relationships where divorce is very rare, especially if they date a while and don't marry until a bit later.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 02:38 AM
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I see a green card in those women's future.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 02:35 AM
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I was specifically highlighting traits that are the differentiator between high and low value long term relationship partners. Appearance isn't really relevant because I literally cannot think of anyone that WANTS to date someone they are not attracted to. I'd actually argue that attraction has a bunch of components that aren't necessarily physical though. There's plenty of very physically attractive women out there that I'd want absolutely nothing to do with for one reason or another. I'm sure …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 02:34 AM
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I totally get this. I grew up in a family that kinda ascended to UMC+ level when I was young, and ended up going to an elite private school for HS. Absolutely wild how much of a misfit I felt like at times. As far as how class + value intersect, I do find that UMC+ people in general are way better at understanding time and place with regards to behavior, but I imagine they also would have been raised to be cognizant of it more than most.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 12:48 AM
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That's how PPD goes. I did add my own list of items that make someone high value in my view, but I would hardly claim it's universal either. I also tend to define value by how highly I think of a person's character, then there's a layer of items that I like to see for if I want to be in a relationship with that person. I've been in my current relationship for 7+ years though, so admittedly, it's not particularly relevant anymore since I am not actively trying to date or meet new people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 12:42 AM
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Pretty much. I did add my own list of criteria of what those types of people look like, but.... that's just my own personal take on things. I think there is also a massive social class component as well honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 12:41 AM
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I don't think someone is actually a high value LTR partner if they claim that nobody that is worth being in an LTR with exists. As for what a high value LTR partner looks like, that's variable. My own personal definition is..... someone who is well-read and educated, emotionally grounded, supportive of their friends, intelligent, driven. There's other stuff but that's the crux of it. People like that, both men and women, often pair off early though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 12:32 AM
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Eh, LA has its charms. I do miss it sometimes, but I literally can't fucking handle the weather. I just melt. It's worse too, because my parents live more inland, so when I visit, I'm basically sweating the whole time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:18 AM
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Lol I grew up in LA. I don't live there anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:27 AM
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Mine is definitely either seeing people on Queen Anne hill abandoning their cars, or the buses sliding down 15th over by UW, lol. People on skis is a close 3rd.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:28 AM
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But...... Snowmageddon! The grocery stores will be all out of bananas!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:13 AM
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Because it's next to the Arts District and Little Tokyo? That's the best reason to be in that area.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:11 PM
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Nah, the converse of it is that I don't particularly think highly of sex workers. I still think it should be legal and regulated, but that's really it. Someone having casual sex and not exchanging money for it is a non-entity in this discussion. I don't particularly care if any friend of mine regardless of gender sleeps around or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 12:38 AM
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It might partially be social conditioning, but in a general sense, it reveals how a person views sex, relationships, and money, at least in my opinion. In general, I find the commodification of human relationships to be distasteful which is what I think the underlying reason is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:14 PM
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I agree with those reasons for legalization. I also can't imagine that legalization would actually change my thoughts on the people who actually visit prostitutes though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:07 PM
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Jesus fucking Christ. What are you, 12?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:23 PM
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Plenty of them. Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:18 PM
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Lol, does it matter? There's much better arguments for legalizing prostitution than "it's unfair that men can't visit prostitutes legally". But even as a guy, if a friend of mine ever decided to visit a prostitute, I'd lose most of my respect for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:14 PM
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PPD: Think about the Johns! Dear lord.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:07 PM
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If they're not anti-abortion, if they're not let the hungry starve, if they're not someone should be free to discriminate based on someone's religion/gender/sexuality/... At that point, are they even considered conservative? But seriously, one of the things I value most in a person is whether they are genuine or not. I want to be with someone who feels comfortable to be the person they want to be/aspire to be around me, and if that version of themselves is someone I'd genuinely dislike, that sim…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 06:03 PM
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I genuinely feel like republicans have no morals and that's why I don't date them. Honestly, yea. Every conservative I've ever met either has a terminally shit understanding of how large complex structures work, or just has a morality that is absolutely repulsive to me. Both of those things are turn-offs for me as a guy when it comes to dating. I do find it a bit hilarious that my girlfriend is to the right of me, but that's not really that hard since I'm some combination of left-wing + a heavil…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 05:29 PM
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I'd say this thread is really revealing people's true colors, but this sub is already such a vile cesspit that I'm not sure it really tells me anything new.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 05:15 PM
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It's pretty straightforward, except for what you define as "settling". Is it that you partner isn't quite literally perfect for you, or is settling something more along the lines of compromising on what previously was a hard line that you had as a standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 05:16 AM
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I really don't understand how the big cities are all run by Democrat mayors, yet these are the same cities that are rampant with police abuse. Because the actual police forces are actively hostile against the cities that they police. That's how it is here anyway. A good chunk of SPD doesn't even live in-city. The police union does everything it can to block all accountability, and there are just enough NIMBY types here that hardline police accountability candidates can't fully gain control of ci…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 09:45 PM
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My hard line is like, 2 months. Just set a deadline or else he will do fuck all until he is kicked out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 09:25 PM
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Mostly that a good chunk of red pillers are absolutely terrible people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:04 PM
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Lol I found this place...... so long ago that it had under 2k subs. I mostly just stick around because it's entertaining the way poking a bear is entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 07:37 AM
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Lol, it's amazing to me that people haven't realized that tying their self-worth to their ability to get laid is so horribly counterproductive that I barely have the words for it. If someone is tying the entirety of their self-worth to..... validation from others, of fucking course they will be miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 01:30 AM
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That said, bf is a die-hard Seahawks fan and keeps trying to convince me to head out there for a game (preferably vs the 49ers) Actually highly recommend this, but I also hate going to games in-stadium, in all honesty. I will say though, that I love the general lack of sunlight. Clouds and rain are all I ever want really. I do think a good chunk of people who move here are woefully unprepared for the weather and end up having horrible seasonal affective disorder though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 05:25 AM
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That is entirely unsurprising, lol. Depending on where I am at in the city, I get complimented a decent bit on my style.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 05:20 AM
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Both, but domestic transplants often REALLY struggle here (in Seattle). Lots of people from the southwest/south especially really struggle with the lack of sunlight and the much less overtly social environment. The way I'd describe the vibe here is..... pleasant, but not particularly friendly or hospitable. Upper midwesterners also seem to have issues with that to a lesser extent. Californians seem to integrate socially the easiest. I actually find that the people that moved here from outside of…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 05:17 AM
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Tbh I find the fear of the west coast on PPD hilarious. Everyone always talks about how dating out here is terrible and..... it's just not. I do think West coast cities require a lot of social calibration to fully integrate into life here, which is probably a lot of it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:30 AM
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Meh, I've spent my entire life on the West coast, in multiple cities/states, and every single one of my friends sans 1-2 hasn't struggled much to date. It's not the dystopian hellscape of dating that people seem to think it is, BUT, transplants often struggle here due to major regional differences in behavior/outlook/socialization. Transplants that actually integrate into their new home cities seem to do fine. Transplants who don't fit the social environment here struggle to ever find their foot…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:28 AM
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Laziness? Or because they are going somewhere where they need to wear a mask. Someone might see me walking with my mask on when I'm heading to the grocery store, but like, it's not a long walk and they do require it, so it's easier to just put it on as I hear out and not have to worry about it. Other reason for those in cooler climates is because they can keep your face warmer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 07:18 PM
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Pretty much. In a general sense, I think congruent achievement is a much better tool to measure with than money, honestly. Someone can be very high achieving, but not particularly high-earning, and vice versa. Someone who is neither high achieving nor high earning is someone who won't really stay attractive to achievement-oriented individuals, since high achievers in general are going to be less forgiving of mediocrity, from my own experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 05:51 AM
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how a relationship can't work if a woman outearns her boyfriend brb, gonna go tell my girlfriend that her outearning me for years means our relationship apparently wasn't working. To be fair, we now make the same-ish (both just a shade under 100k). I always found the hand-wringing about who earns more to be kinda silly honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 05:31 AM
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Since covid started, I've nearly doubled my pay at work, cooked more (started pre-covid, but kept the momentum), and took up options trading, which I dabbled in, but never got super familiar with previously. Definitely will say that working remote was the best move I could have made for my career. Commuting puts me in a shitty mood, lol. I knew that a bit before covid though, since my previous job was mostly remote. In a general sense, my life has been great especially in the last year. Big thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 05:36 PM
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I know more people that date totally fine who exclusively take public transit than I know owners of motorcycles. No thanks, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 09:46 AM
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PPD is legitimately crazy-town and the stuff I see here might as well be rejected scripts for Netflix shows that seem too implausible to actually engage a normal audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:23 AM
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Dear lord, what is this nonsense. The only thing people REALLY don't like is someone who has zero emotional control and emotionally vomits all over them. Edit: Because I finally read the actual post. If you exhibit emotionally engaging behavior (always complimenting her, afraid to disagree, paying for her stuff, always texting back quickly, acting like you are lucky to be with her) This might be the dumbest fucking thing I've ever read on here. None of that qualifies as being emotionally engagin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 06:08 PM
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I'm pretty sure my girlfriend would disembowel any woman who tried to flirt with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 08:00 PM
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Stop making me miss LA lol. I don't do well with the heat there though, and the sprawl does drive me nuts, but I still love the place. Tbh I think that people who completely dislike LA just have no idea what to do/where to go. I have my own reasons for not living there, but there is so much to see and do. I love Little Tokyo, the Arts District, Los Feliz, Silver Lake.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 07:57 PM
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I don't think you can directly compare the two. But I also don't think that compatibility = "being a similar type of person". If you want to be somewhat cynical about it, I think things like social class and general life stability are much better predictors of relationship success than devotion or compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 01:43 AM
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Lmao, that first point is absolutely bonkers. Nobody is going to build any measurable amount of wealth if they are blowing 40% of their after-tax income on financing someone else's life. Frankly, that entire list reads like the rantings and ravings of a lunatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 12:47 AM
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Yea, I only started making my own turkey last year after I skipped Thanksgiving due to covid. Did a franken-turkey where we bought a bunch of individual turkey parts and cooked them that way. This year I went for a more interesting salt/seasoning mix for my brine so we'll see how it turns out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 09:17 PM
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I scratch-made pumpkin pie filling this morning. I'd have also made the crusts myself, but one of our friends is gluten free, so she supplied those.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 09:08 PM
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Turkey is great, just needs to be brined well. Most people do a shit job of seasoning/brining their bird which means the meat won't get the right flavor/texture.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 09:06 PM
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Some of the takes in this thread are fucking absurd. I can't, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 05:28 AM
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At least based on this data here, a higher % of women in the workforce leads to higher wages regionally. Areas with higher historical female labor force participation largely saw higher wages. That isn't to say that this is causal, per se, but it's interesting data
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 11:23 PM
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I'd almost consider looking at Japanese whiskeys, but they are usually had as highballs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 10:55 PM
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Before feminism, women still worked, just in a different capacity. Less jobs is mostly a byproduct of offshoring, if anything. Wage growth increased with productivity up until 1970, and was de-coupled from productivity around that time, as we exited the FDR era and moved into an era of deregulation under Reagan. Even looking at something like corporate profits today (note, profits, not revenue), profits are 5x what they were in 2000. There is no good reason why wages have barely grown in that ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 10:44 PM
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Yea, you'd be living a very bare-bones lifestyle in that case, but it's technically doable. The thing is though, that because people in the US were brought up with certain expectations about lifestyle/quality of life/living situation, it's tricky to break out of that cycle and would require a large scale shift of societal expectations to make that more minimalist lifestyle palatable to people. As it stands now, I can't imagine that change will happen, especially when we have things like influenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 10:16 PM
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That's definitely the biggest risk from what I've seen. Either way I think it's a moot point though, since the way the economy is structured means that those types of choices are really limited to just the higher end of the upper middle class and the wealthy. The modern economy is absolutely ruthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 10:08 PM
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Society didn't make it that way. Anyone that knows anything about history knows that the post-WWII era was unsustainable and was a byproduct of the entire industrialized world sans the US being blown to bits. I'd pin this directly on capitalism if anything, since the cost of labor never increased with overall productivity, all while key goods and services like housing exploded in cost. Plus once you saw more globalization, it offshored a lot of labor and segmented the economy in some ways. Women…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 10:02 PM
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The women I know who ended up becoming stay at home mothers all had some type of career prior to that transition.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 09:57 PM
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Nothing is wrong with preferring traditional gender roles. What is wrong is forcing people to conform to them. It's preferable to give people the freedom to pursue the lives they want regardless of gender. Also, the vast majority of people will have a really rough time attempting to support a family on a single income.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 09:54 PM
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Could also just be that most men and women aren't super high sociosexuality and casual sex had niche appeal, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 06:15 PM
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Yea, the economy is a tricky one because some metrics are great, others are blah, but for workers, they haven't been having a fun time for a while. Lack of stability, bleak future, climate change, political instability are all huge issues. That's not even getting into the existential dread young people face in the housing market.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 12:12 AM
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Uhhh, 8-9. If I didn't have those goddamn 9 PM work meetings with offshore dev teams, my life would be perfect. The decline at the societal level is due to..... long term financial insecurity for a lot of people, lack of channels for self-actualization, really just stuff similar to what makes women unhappy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 12:04 AM
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I always find it hilarious when people tell me that my city is dying/on fire/in crisis/full of riots/lawless, or whatever fresh bullshit has been concocted. Honestly, real life experience here is WAY more boring than outsiders sensationalize it as. My girlfriend straight-up is skipping Thanksgiving with her relatives partially because it always turns into a hate-fest about how awful where we live is for.... xyz bullshit reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 08:22 PM
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Straight-up never cared to hear or think about my friend's sex lives. It never even registered to me as something to think about. I don't view it as admirable, or with jealousy or envy. It just is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 11:28 PM
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But at that point.... That's just how they are a friend to others lmao. Don't exactly think it's the healthiest approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 10:46 PM
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A fool, probably. Explains why the manosphere is filled to the gills with grifters.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 09:50 PM
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Nah, I'm saying you have to be an absolute idiot to do something like that for someone that has no intent of reciprocating. Nobody with more than two brain cells is THAT dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 08:49 PM
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I was gonna say, who the fuck even has friends that are delivering groceries to them? Only reason I'd ever do it is if a friend was quarantining and they needed me to help out, and I'd make it VERY clear I'd have the same expectation of them if I needed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 08:40 PM
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This is the truth. Giving them rides, taking them out, running errands, delivering food and groceries, out right sending them money, etc etc. I literally do not know any men that do this. Legitimately meme-tier topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 08:33 PM
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Everybody knows you never go full fundie.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 09:22 AM
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Speak for yourself lmao. Thrifting is fun if I can actually find pieces that fit me well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 01:34 AM
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Most dudes have bland af styles but that's usually it. I do see too many guys in general who get clothes that don't fit them particularly well though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 01:10 AM
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Sounds about right. I've never met a single person who was interested in fintech (since that became a thing) who didn't have complete dudebro energy, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 11:28 PM
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My experience is that the sub-30 contingent at Amazon is more that way, especially the non-devs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 10:55 PM
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it's exactly 15/hour if you assume 2000 hours worked in a year. If you assume 2080 it's..... 31.2k.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 10:06 PM
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I don't like super aggressive dudebro guys This perfectly describes that corporate environment at Amazon, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 10:02 PM
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That said, it depends what the therapy is for. Mindfulness will be different to say Anger Management or Sex Addiction. Yea, really that's the bigger thing. Therapy itself is just a tool. The reason behind it tells you about what is going on in the person's head.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:49 PM
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Lol, this one was always silly to me. I've been in a relationship for the last 7 years and have had multiple stints of going through therapy for a variety of reasons that have had nothing to do with my ability to maintain a relationship. One of those was related to short-term work stress that was causing bad anxiety and generally destroying my life (that job was shit, getting fired was great for my career, lol), and the other was about actively trying to be more mindful and present mentally. Fra…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:40 PM
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I would love to be kneaded by those mitts. Such chonky feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:57 PM
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It's about a.... documentary? about a family whose house is bigger on the inside than on the outside. It has multiple narrators, makes copious use of footnotes, and has some of the most unique text layout I've seen, lol. As I said, it's a trip.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:33 AM
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I really enjoyed the Watchmen show, but I know that audience reviews were pretty split. Still think the weirdest read ever for me was House of Leaves. That was a fucking trip.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:57 AM
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Ha that's fair. I think I also tend to prefer works that are more imaginative in a sci-fi/dystopian way as well, so I find that a lot of works that are like, actually based in reality end up not being all that interesting to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:54 AM
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I realize that's the point. I just don't really enjoy reading books where I detest everyone. I also just don't particularly care for the writing style all that much. That combination of characters I hate + writing style that doesn't keep me engaged kinda kills the enjoyment of reading for me. Doesn't necessarily make the novel itself less impactful, just that it's not really the type of thing I enjoy reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:47 AM
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WHAAAT The Great Gatsby was actually good😰 I absolutely hate every single character, kinda makes reading it a slog, lol. I have not read The Brothers Karamazov, but I need to eventually get to it. In general I haven't been reading much lately though, too busy with everything happening right now to dedicate energy to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:11 AM
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I absolutely detest The Great Gatsby. Also didn't care much for The Sun Also Rises. Think both are massively overrated. Catcher in the Rye is another that falls really flat with me. As far as favorites, Wuthering Heights was great. Also enjoyed Crime and Punishment, Brave New World, The Odyssey. Other books I like that I'm not entirely sure are considered classics are Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep, Roadside Picnic, and House of Leaves. I also like Watchmen a lot, but I figure graphic novel…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:03 AM
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PPD is a trash fire buried in the depths of Mount Doom. There's hardly a weirder subreddit than this one, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 11:38 PM
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A derogatory term for a short man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 11:28 PM
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Had a argument yesterday where someone kept claiming the reason why humans are taller is because women keep selecting for tall men. When its takes a cursory google to find were taller than our ancestors because of better nutrition. He then proceeded to call me a manlet. Lmao, this is the most PPD thing I've ever read.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 07:27 PM
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I wish it was creative writing. I'm like, 95% sure it isn't entirely fabricated.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 04:29 AM
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Wanting revenge against the people who have wronged you is perfectly normal. How did the individuals that he is "getting revenge on" wrong him in the first place? Frankly what he is doing is taking out his anger on unsuspecting 3rd parties who probably didn't do anything to wrong him before their interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:31 AM
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I agree with that, but being good at the former also would likely correlate with being a good partner, husband, and whatever else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:14 AM
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I'd make a really shitty human kebab, too skinny, lol. But yes, get some of those Mediterranean spices and marinades and I bet anything would be delicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:13 AM
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Yes, you can blame shitbags for being shitbags. Shitbags come in all shapes, sizes, and genders. No reason to mistreat someone who hasn't mistreated you. You can't control other people's actions, but you can control how you react to the world around you. Reacting the way a petulant child would just shows a lack of.... rational thought, frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:12 AM
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Idk about that. Have you ever seen red pillers? I can't imagine the quality of meat would be very good. I imagine there would be a lot of gristle, lack of good marbling. There's also the issue of all the steroids they are being pumped full of, and their diets that lack variety. Not free range enough either. And don't get me started on black piller meat. I guess you can use them for burgers or something. Not much value beyond that. Also, did you know that if you are a cannibal, every truck is a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:58 PM
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PPD needs more wholesome people smfh. Otherwise, this garbage fire will continue until it consumes everyone and everything around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:41 PM
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I'd think it's better to aspire to be a good person and a good influence on others, rather than just a good father. I'd imagine being a good father is part of that. If you want a functional society, you need to exhibit strong pro-social behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:00 PM
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That's fair. I just have a love affair with analog audio equipment. I need to get a pair of vintage cabinet speakers at some point. In general I'm particular about sound quality and details though, so I know my expectations are a bit fringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 07:53 PM
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Sony MDR-7506s are my go-to headphones. Not particularly comfortable or uncomfortable, but the sound they produce is.... detailed and crisp. It's not forgiving at all though, so anything that is mixed poorly will sound extra bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 07:28 PM
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Red pill doesn’t get to retroactively claim any and every trait that a woman might find attractive just for the sake of making RP sound amazing lmao Looking good is now red pill, yep. So is having money, not being needy, being personable and being confident. Yep, all exclusive things that only TRP figured out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 12:32 AM
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Go to Komasa in Little Tokyo. Modan ramen in Pasadena is legit too. Wurstkuche in the Arts District is a good time too. Good variety of sausages. One of my best friends lives in Koreatown, and we'd go down either there or Little Tokyo area whenever I'd go visit so I am intimately familiar with the area. Edit: Forgot about Mitsuru Cafe in Little Tokyo as well, which has delicious Imagawayaki. Yuca's in the Los Feliz area is good as well, but pricey for what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 11:11 PM
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I mostly agree with that. The ones I know that do struggle usually have some sort of long-term issue they are working through, moreso. My friends in college all were either actively dating or in relationships for most of that time as well. My roommate during my last two years of college didn't really date, but I never really figured out what his deal was. Great guy, good friend, but he seemed to lose the plot on his life plan a bit, and was very much a pure STEM guy (studied bioengineering). Sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 09:31 PM
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maybe it’s the weather A lot of it is this. Most transplants really struggle with the weather and the more insular/colder social environments.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 09:12 PM
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Behind that balding Dilbert look is the brain of a megalomaniac. Seriously, Amazon's company culture is absolute dogshit and it all started with Bezos, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 09:05 PM
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This is called being mysterious. It's the ultimate Chad move.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 08:16 PM
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The ones who lack the means to travel or partake in fine dining, they finds way to engage in culture any way they can - museum tours, volunteering on boards for local theater/opera, exploring various cuisines through food trucks and holes in the wall options. This is accurate. The engagement with culture is the bigger piece there. Someone who only travels to luxurious locations and doesn't necessarily engage with culture isn't really going to be cultured either. I think someone can be a foodie w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 08:02 PM
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travel and are foodies It's code for sex tourism, obviously. But really..... nothing? The people I know that don't travel much and who aren't foodies to some degree are just kinda uncultured. Nothing wrong with it, but that's just how they are. Also, makes me realize that someone can totally use restaurant week to screen people for dating lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 07:47 PM
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Eh, those were all things I read in middle/high school 10+ years ago. I don't think things have changed THAT much, but obviously I'm a bit removed from that. I don't really think there's a downside to reading any of the books in those types of classes honestly. Gives a rich and diverse perspective to people who are increasingly in their bubbles. Book banning is almost invariably political, and almost always, it's because the banned works challenge ingrained societal notions or entrenched power s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 07:27 PM
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Some people REALLY hate Beloved. But if you take AP English in HS, you better know it for that exam.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 07:18 PM
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Well that's simple. Incel/manosphere communities and ideologies have led to/been directly tied to acts of terrorism and homicide. Manosphere communities have been known to praise said terrorists and killers. Manosphere communities have been known to encourage/promote rape and statutory rape. Trp has been known to encourage manipulation/targeting specially women with a specific mental illness for exploitation. Let's be real, it isn't even that. It's that TRP and manosphere communities lose reddit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 03:25 AM
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A person in real life who is a friend won't be immediately socially sanctioned for having expressing something negative or complaining ime. Friends complain to each other all the time, especially about their own dating struggles. I'm just saying that those that I know have never said they deserve some type of "prince charming" character. In addition, while the internet does add some level of freedom of expression due to anonymity, it also isn't immune to biases and to amplification of messages t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 01:19 AM
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Lmao, what are you talking about. I was saying I haven't heard of complaints like these "Where have all the good men gone?" really means "Why doesn't prince charming want a relationship with me?" from people that I interact with in any capacity. Those types of complaints are seemingly very prevalent on the internet, but that doesn't accurately reflect the lived reality for those I know, even those unhappy with their relationship status. Not really sure what else you want me to say. Nothing about…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:50 AM
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It's just world fallacy at best This is accurate, but a lot of people come on PPD to write out revenge fantasies so..... I don't think it's wrong to make that assumption a lot of times. Edit: based on OP's other responses, revenge fantasy is just an accurate label, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:38 AM
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Maybe the entire premise of your argument is shit. There's nothing here to discuss because the premise of your argument is predicated on just world fallacy, AND it's basically just regurgitating the "women's standards are too high and them not settling will make them unhappy" talking point, which isn't really even worth discussing. Talking about what people deserve doesn't really have much value, quite frankly. Edit: I also just do not believe you are here to debate in good faith, and someone wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:31 AM
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I'd think one of the prerequisites for a CMV post is that the OP is grounded in some sort of observable reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:07 AM
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Because playing with fire is fun, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 11:47 PM
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Honestly, I am getting paid troll vibe from OP more than anything else, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 11:41 PM
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Satine really is being troublesome with her good cat/bad cat routine. One moment she is cuddling me and sitting on my lap and kneading my legs, and the next, she is making it her mission to go knock everything off ledges around the apartment. I still think she is usually the good cat. Bad cat side just needs more training and play time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 10:58 PM
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Because it's PPD and this sub is a garbage fire, probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 10:55 PM
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proceeds to screech a revenge fantasy into the void. Who cares what random people are doing anyway? There's such an obsession on this sub with people getting what they deserve and it's so..... tiresome. Honestly, I don't even hear these complaints all that much from like, real people that I know. Every man or woman I know who is unhappy about their relationship status is acutely aware of their own shortcomings and can give you the exact reasons why they are in the situation they are in. Some eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 10:55 PM
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Honestly, I think showing up at a protest with a gun is already crossing a line. That's the type of behavior that is explicitly meant to intimidate and cause fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 10:49 PM
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"I really want In N Out right now" This is my mood perpetually. Was great when I went on a road trip and finally was back in range of one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 10:08 PM
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If red, not sarcastic, if non-red, sarcastic. That's my rule of thumb anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:53 PM
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I almost respect the shamelessness, lmao. Still imagine most people would perceive that comment REALLY uncharitably though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 02:04 AM
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At some point, TRP needs to be self-aware enough to realize that maybe if they don't want to be perceived as hateful, they should cast out all the hateful elements and people they attract, right? That's not happening though, because that community is basically a superfund site.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 01:48 AM
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By tolerating hateful rhetoric and not ostracizing it, they are implicitly condoning it. PPD in general shows a lot of that. Some red pillers are just absolutely vile little hatemongers, and a lot of the shit upvoted even in PPD would not be uttered in most polite company.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 01:40 AM
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Right here on PPD, and other much older posts in TRP world. Those posts and comments always stuck out as especially vile.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 01:36 AM
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People on TRP have said that if not for sex, women would be hunted for sport. This sentiment isn't actually that uncommon. If that's not hateful, I want to see your definition of what is. Frankly, the fact that the community is unable to police itself is enough evidence that it doesn't actually object to hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 01:10 AM
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I am..... happy with my life? lol. Never really gave much thought to how I rate on a scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 09:28 PM
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LMAO, right? My company is absolutely full of nerds, and most of them can and do play video games. I've been a bit light on gaming for a bit, just due to lack of motivation (and a VERY busy schedule in the last year), but I've definitely connected over video games with other people I work with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 08:19 PM
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must be into travel and a foodie. gasp you have said the magic words!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 05:55 PM
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Yea it's kinda like people can't see or are being blatantly oblivious to how differing life stages can be used to take advantage of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 05:43 PM
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Eh, the explosion of costs is also primarily in key things like housing, healthcare, education, and transportation. This is all while wages have been stagnant for years. I wouldn't say that we have ever had particularly high inflation since the 80s, and definitely not stagflation, but real wage growth in the last 50 years is basically non-existent. Even just being in your 20s, you've lived through three transformative economic crashes, a 20 year long war, and a one in a century pandemic. Kinda w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 03:30 PM
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I do like people who are direct and honest. I want authenticity above all else.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 01:50 AM
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I mean, young people in general are unhappier than they've ever been across all categories, including work/jobs, finances and the prospect of taking on a lot of debt to finance education, health (especially mental health), academic pressure, lack of human interaction, lack of sleep. In a lot of ways, I think people growing up today are under far more pressure than people who were coming of age even 20 years ago. The uncertainty young adults face when trying to establish themselves is really taki…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 01:38 AM
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Sounds adorable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 01:30 AM
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Does the foster kitten knead frequently?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 12:42 AM
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Light fixtures and curtains/curtain rods, cat toys, furniture, and maybe another SSD, but I have like 6 so not really urgent
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:12 PM
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My chubster was never really mischievous but he was thrilled when we moved into our current residence. A lot more spacious so he could zoomie his little heart out. This sounds entertaining. Give Hops a hug for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 09:56 PM
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She is wonderful! I loved Inara, but I love Satine just as much in her own way. Her mischief is a bit tiresome, but she is such a joy. It's gonna be weird when we move, because she'll have so much more space to cause havoc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 09:51 PM
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Stacey of the cat world Our previous cat Inara was definitely the Stacey of cat world. She was nicknamed Queen Fancy Bitch for a reason. She lived a life of cuddles and luxury. Of course, that is juxtaposed against her moving like a lump of chonk, and pooping on the floor to establish dominance, lol. Satine is quite sleek and elegant-looking, but she is kinda derpy at times. She is more charismatic and sweet imo. Very charming cat, someone who is very loving and friendly and affable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 09:27 PM
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Hayden Christiansen's performance honestly was underrated. The script was SO BAD!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 08:58 PM
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Who here personally knows a woman dating men in these categories? Not me, lol. This is totally a class thing, so not sure why this sub always seems to frame it as something that's universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 08:57 PM
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Cats certainly are sneaky little fuckers. Satine kept eating the one plant that she wasn't supposed to for a while, until I sprayed it with vinegar. She got the message after it both made her feel sick, and tasted terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 08:54 PM
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Satine continues to be a biscuit-handed scoundrel. Now she is crashing work meetings and trying to plot her escape between naps. Love this cat, but she is SO active. Always up to mischief. I will say though, that for such an athletic cat (very fast, very big jumps), she has terrible balance and lacks any semblance of grace.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 08:33 PM
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Yep, it's pretty much the same reason that TRP men are terrible LTR partners. Everything is adversarial and transactional with them. And they always have to put on a front.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 08:28 PM
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Tbh, it isn't even about the stuff you listed here. I'm not gonna make assumptions about something that I have no knowledge of (e.g. haven't bothered to pay attention to most FDS posters much). But..... I can tell you that I lose all motivation to care about someone if they aren't someone I like or respect as a person. In my own relationship, I have immense respect for my partner because of the type of person she is and the values she lives by. She's someone that inspires me to want to learn and…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 08:27 PM
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I like relationships that are cooperative, and not adversarial so.... no. I also like people who know how to relax and be silly and goofy and not serious, and FDS women aren't that at all. It's not a group of people that seems comfortable in their own skin, and that alone is actually the biggest deal-breaker for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 06:01 PM
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Heh, adds another layer to his casting in Doom Patrol then, lmao. He's excellent in that show.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 04:04 AM
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People here are so..... out there that it is legitimately entertaining. That's really all it is. This sub talks about levels of drama that my own life has never had anywhere as much of.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 01:57 AM
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I find the process of radicalization morbidly fascinating, and TRP and adjacent spaces are largely places that seem to radicalize people. I find the sub entertaining, but not instructive at all, so I mainly stay for the entertainment value. To answer the first question, yes, I've been in love, no, I did not end up here due to a breakup. Currently am in a relationship that is 7+ years long.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 12:25 AM
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And why would a man who was left out of the "party phase", not be considered the prize when it comes to relationships? You do realize that a lot of couples consist of people who just completely skip that phase because it doesn't have any appeal to them, right? And why would a man who was left out of the "party phase", not be considered the prize when it comes to relationships? Any person who isn't paired up by a certain point is seen as a bad prospect for long term relationships, precisely becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 09:01 PM
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Pretty much, unless they actually enjoy cleaning and want to spend the time on it. But yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 07:41 PM
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I'm pretty sure that most people on PPD barely understand what UMC life entails.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 07:19 PM
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Tbf, Jeff is the fucking worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 06:32 AM
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Yea, people who actually get close to me can clearly see the signs and vestiges of how I am when I am fully at rest and working in a totally natural state, but so much of things like dealing with ambiguity is a learned skill imo. It does take a lot of time to unlearn what feels natural, though. In a general sense, I think rigidity in both thought process and personality is an absolute killer for dating as a man. It's really hard to date if you are rigid to change, or breaking routine, or struggl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 04:36 AM
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I’m beginning to think that a big chunk of PPD is comprised of systemizers who need rules and systems to get through life Feel like this has been the case forever, but still. The irony of all of this is that I am diagnosed on the autism spectrum but am shockingly good at dealing with ambiguity in general and as part of my job (because project management).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 04:24 AM
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Kinda explains why my experience in my own relationship is so opposite of most of PPD's, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 04:20 AM
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vet for lifestyle and success. I'm all for people dating based on practicality and rationality, honestly. I would never date a woman whose lifestyle didn't fit with mine, who didn't have the same values as me, and who didn't have the career trajectory that fit with my own life goals (mainly so that our goals are aligned enough that they only require small course corrections). I'd expect any other rational person to do the same. That doesn't mean that I don't love my girlfriend or that our relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 04:15 AM
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I'm calling bullshit, considering I spent the majority of my relationship being outearned by my partner (she was earning 1.5x-2x what I made during that time), who was more advanced in her career, and who came from a family that was better off than mine (both UMC+, but her family definitely did better overall). Nobody ever batted an eye at our relationship. That being said, if you do want to date someone who is higher on the social/class ladder than you, even by a little, you need to be a net po…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 04:12 AM
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Smurf, did you not know this? Now that my girlfriend and I broke are both 25+, this means it's now a business transaction. This is how it works in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 04:09 AM
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Also, so many of them just seem so..... anti-fun. Big buzzkill energy from a lot of that group.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 01:54 AM
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I've discussed my experiences as a man on the autism spectrum (diagnosed about a decade and a half ago) plenty of times on here and I've been told I'm lying, or insulted over it a few times, but usually it's been by other men so... Not sure what to make of it other than that some people are toxic garbage. Someone actually tried to tell me that I am not on the spectrum once. That one was funny especially given that I was diagnosed at 12 and was in therapy for years. Funny thing is that I am diagn…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 10:43 PM
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I literally had a deep dish pizza near me once that impressed someone that hates deep dish so.... No. Burnt cheese and thick doughy crust and layers of delicious other toppings >>>> That said I like my pizza to be relatively unique. Once got a banh mi pizza and that was surprisingly good.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 02:00 AM
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The OP specifically highlighted average people, lmao. Population level stats for a post that is about a whole-ass population makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 10:56 PM
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CDC data has the median heterosexual adult man at 6.4 partners and the median heterosexual adult woman at 4.1. This data is about adults between the ages of 25 and 49. Most people get around way less than PPD would have you believe. Best part is someone said I was arguing disingenuously for posting this yesterday.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 10:20 PM
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Don't know if orange county specifically is, but LA county in general is very expensive and I would say comparable quality areas are more expensive there than here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 07:31 PM
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Yea, I wouldn't say that is a bad pay rate by any means, but I wouldn't say it's crazy to want more either. I love the PNW, but like, there's few areas that are more expensive. I just happened to grow up in one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 07:22 PM
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Right? I feel like 140k at that age is.... good, or fine, but I wouldn't call it great. Great would be an income that supports a whole family with a good chunk for wealth building left over.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 07:09 PM
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Yea, she doesn't talk much about her years as a social worker (she left that space over a decade and a half ago), but knowing her, I imagine she made a huge difference for a lot of people. Maybe I'll discuss it with her sometime. I imagine that being in a role where you could affect policy would be a place where you can make a huge difference. Definitely don't think social workers get paid enough though. The service they are doing to their community is vital, but public service jobs in general j…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 05:21 AM
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I can see how that would be difficult for sure. My mom was a social worker for 20 years before she just kinda burned out from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 05:14 AM
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My profession can be very dark and mentally taxing Are you a mortician? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 04:49 AM
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Last time was.... 3 weeks. That seems easy enough and was as much as I felt comfortable pushing it. you might be able to get 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 08:31 PM
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Eh, speaking from my own lived experiences, the types of things people on PPD say about careers, their perspectives on education and culture, and the motivations they discuss aren't consistent with those of class-strivers and highly ambitious individuals I know and grew up around. I have my own perspective on this, but it has been strongly informed by me being surrounded by high achievers for the vast majority of my life. Am I wrong? Maybe, but I wouldn't say something I didn't have reason to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 08:13 PM
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I took that risk with literally one person, and I am still shocked that I found him as soon as I did. That's kinda where I am with my girlfriend. We found each other in college, and 7+ years later are still together. I'm planning on proposing within the next few months. Ironically, both of us moved away from California to the Pacific Northwest for school and ended up staying here, while both of our families live near each other in California. Funny thing is I am pretty sure Washington has maybe …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 07:06 PM
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This is accurate, lol. Some people are VERY cautious precisely because their long-term goals expressly depend on not having children too soon, because shocker, kids are expensive as shit. Frankly, I don't think most people on PPD aspire to much though, or else their perspective would be more grounded in caution.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 06:55 PM
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I mean, you can draw a direct line between run-amok individualism and the "fuck you, I got mine" attitude that's endemic among people in the US. Immigrants usually have more collectivist attitudes about family at the very least, if not social responsibility. That filters through to all behavior and beliefs too imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 03:53 AM
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My parents were both immigrants who came to the US as adults and met through my mom's older sister so..... I can't say it would be unlikely given that they were from the same small ethnic community and had connections via a relatively small social circle. Their attachment styles are very secure and their ability to stay grounded and maintain perspective are leagues above most people I know. Funny thing is I ended up being very whitewashed relative to others that grew up in similar households tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 03:41 AM
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Heh, yea, that's pretty much the only reason to come around here. I find this sub interesting because it's so...... the opposite of everything in my own life in a lot of ways so the drama is amusing because it almost feels unreal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 12:05 AM
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I'm just here to cause chaos and post pictures of fat bears. I can't actually take this place seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 11:44 PM
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But..... who cares. If someone has an opinion that's a deal breaker, don't date them. Literally nobody I know off the top of my head even cares about this story enough to think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 05:13 PM
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I have no fucking clue why people look at celebrity relationships as somehow being instructive or representative of what normal relationships are like. Dear lord.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 05:05 PM
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Did the medical school you attended teach you immunology using material from 4 Chan? Just curious. What if the medical school was 4chan?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 04:22 PM
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You’ve gotta stop comparing yourself to the online lives of strangers. One of the best ways of thinking about social media content that I've seen is that you can't be comparing everyone else's highlights to your own life. What you see on social media is a curated image of what people WANT you to see, so comparing your whole-ass life to their highlight reel is just asking to hate your life. There's plenty of people who live very fulfilling lives who barely advertise it, if at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 07:14 AM
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Don't mind me, I'm just here to cause chaos and confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 07:05 AM
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Nah, real life is great. Real life has some real absolute units.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 07:01 AM
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Next step, cancel puberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 05:50 AM
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People are capable of genuinely liking their partners? I for one am shocked at the degeneracy that must be required to feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 05:04 PM
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Eh, it all really depends on context. If you like him, do what you are comfortable with. Everyone's comfort levels will be wildly different so it's just a matter of.... Knowing what you want and confidently stating it. Nothing wrong with waiting, or going for it. In my current relationship of 7 years, when we began dating, we took it slow since she had less comfort around physical contact in general and wasn't experienced and it worked out well. It's going to be different for everyone. Part of b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:18 AM
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I mean, I think it depends on what you want. If you want something serious, big thing is being sure about their values, right? If you are unsure, no reason to feel pressure to do something to make the other person happy. If it feels right, it feels right, but if it doesn't, take it at face value.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:12 AM
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r/RedPillWomen basically traditional girls Nah, I wouldn't say they are traditional, because traditional people grow up that way and are steeped in it. As far as locus of control.... I think it's more tied to upbringing/class background and family above all else. Fair point on exposure leading to different perspectives as well though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:10 AM
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I actually think TRP men would be very unhappy with traditional women. TRP men don't exactly strike me as that type that would be happy with a woman who was reserved and vanilla. Also imagine religious women would be out for them. I think the locus of control point is off though. That has more to do with other factors imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 06:20 AM
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Never cared and never really kept count honestly. Doing that would have ruined the spontaneity and the ability to cultivate a connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 06:17 AM
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That too! Teen relationships rarely work out, and if they do, it's specifically because both people have personalities that are strongly predisposed to stable relationships in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 05:56 AM
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Dear lord, lmao. Frankly, this is the perspective of someone that has a lot bigger problems than just not dating. This There's a seriousness and maturity to adulthood that makes human relationships dull. can be entirely untrue if you want it to be and actually decide to like..... take life and just roll with it, and be spontaneous and have fun. Mid-20s isn't even old.... that's legitimately primetime age to date in a lot of ways. Adult friendships suck. I just think romantic relationships are ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 05:49 AM
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Yea, to me this is a no-brainer. It's about money and representation in media/advertising means you are top of mind for the audiences you are targeting/trying to represent.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 08:00 PM
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You mean women who are on the chonkier side of things. I see no parallel efforts to coddle overweight men. The move is to remove the stigma from fat women. Fat men are generally accepted in society. I don't see them being mocked mercilessly by any means. Fat/overweight men are presented as relatively normal in media representations, as if it's almost just expected that the average man carries a bit of extra weight. But this isn't about coddling fat women or removing stigma. It's about getting pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 07:59 PM
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With zero regulation and less access to convenient, satiating, and healthy options, people are ballooning up to insane sizes. The sheer amount of food deserts is horrifying. Lots of areas have very little in the way of access to healthy options. Doesn't help that we subsidize things like corn production very heavily. On top of that.... we seem to subsidize wheat, rice, and soybeans very heavily as well. I know a huge chunk of modern high calorie food also was essentially the commercial productio…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 07:08 PM
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This is where I am at. People are getting fatter, so content, advertising, and general sentiment is to cater to people who are on the.... chonkier side of things. It really just comes down to..... marketing in a lot of cases, since the biggest changes we are seeing are in things like advertising and content that's meant to generate online engagement. The only conspiracy here is the conspiracy to increase profits.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 06:46 PM
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Yea, that sounds about right. My girlfriend's job is one where she does deal with frustrating people from time to time (HR director) and she definitely needs to just vent about it to get it out of her system. Tbf, I've also found that the best way to improve her mood is to entice our cat to give her love though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 03:54 PM
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I saw someone antagonizing a rattlesnake in a parking lot. Fun times. Peak Darwin Awards.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 08:57 PM
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It would look like bears eating everyone's faces and culling the herd. Only people who practice proper bear safety would be left. People who practice proper bear safety are the human ideal. On a more serious note, people with more secure attachment styles who are more direct in their communication would avert a lot of the issues that many face in the course of dating. Edit: Seriously though, going to national parks this summer showed me just how fucking dumb people are around large animals, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 07:51 PM
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It seriously is, and there are so many kinds! My girlfriend has started collecting teapots and we're going to have a place to display them when we move. Very excited.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:03 PM
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I used to be liberal on this but after having to manage this stuff myself the people who don’t think about retirement who are young are asking to be living in poverty when they’re old. Eh, a lot of old people who are living in poverty now grew up through the age were pensions were cut in favor of 401ks, and retirement wealth as a whole has not grown fast enough to keep pace with population-level aging. Social security has also been heavily cut since the 1980s as well. I think what we're seeing n…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 05:58 PM
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The best part is that it's bear themed, lol. Apparently seems pretty good too. I've been meaning to try it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 05:16 PM
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I'm supportive of her and mainly just do what I can to comfort her and listen to her. I have realized that whenever she is feeling down in general I tend to make tea for her as well. Not sure why really, but it usually helps. She doesn't really tend to have those types of emotional lows in general though. She is more of a complainer than a crier. That being said, I've been in this relationship for 7+ years and neither of us has cried much. Only really a handful of times and usually because of br…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 02:18 PM
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It’s hard to find people in the middle haha. I have a friend who is really unconventional and doesn’t care about expectations or trends, but he’s bordering on asexuality bc the whole act of finding a partner is too much of a hassle of him. He doesn’t see why he should dress nicely or have good haircut to attract women. Yea, I think there's a balance to be struck between living life like you want to and understanding what other people want and doing things that make you desirable to them. I would…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 02:02 AM
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Yea that makes a lot of sense to me. When sex becomes about performance, measuring up, or wanting to prove something, I think the quality goes way down, just because at that point, you aren't doing it to enjoy it with someone and connect with them (or for something more casual, just to enjoy it with someone and get each other off). The shitty thing though, is that I think men are heavily conditioned to perform up to certain standards or to be a certain way, whether that's based off porn, pop cul…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 01:44 AM
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Eh, it happens. This sub tends to bring out the worst in people pretty consistently, lmao. I think porn definitely has changed the way people think about sex, but I think there's also some level of..... A LOT of people struggling to parse the difference between fantasy and reality. I also think it has largely normalized kink/fetishism/BDSM and the like as well. This isn't to say that those are bad things, just that to enjoy them requires an interest in them, or a want to explore them. I think to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 01:04 AM
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I mean, I am going based off the dictionary definition, lmao. Literally what it says on Wikipedia. Not really sure what else you want me to say. Not being into kink/fetishism is literally what being vanilla is. That doesn't mean it's bad or inferior though. > Conventional sex, colloquially vanilla sex, is sexual behavior that is within the range of normality for a culture or subculture, and typically involves sex which does not include elements of BDSM, kink, or fetishism. Degradation squarely f…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 12:20 AM
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Do vanilla dudes exist? Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 11:39 PM
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Sure, that's part of it too. I don't think there's any single cause here. It's an intersection of business and culture that drives good consumption. I find it very interesting that men who don't conform to certain gendered expectation are called "soyboys" which in my view reinforces the general idea that real men are meat eaters, more or less. But, at the same time, if my memory is right, we also are seeing an overall rise in things like heart disease which can be caused by heavy meat consumptio…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 10:19 PM
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Lol I genuinely enjoy the prequels. I honestly think Hayden Christensen actually kinda nailed his acting and that the writing for his character was just unbelievably painful. But yes, Obi Wan was the best part.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 07:11 PM
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Fun fact, Kyle MacLachlan owns a winery. I enjoyed Twin Peaks a lot though. Very good show.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 07:03 PM
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Hell will freeze over before we see unions for tech workers though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 03:20 PM
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Lmao right? Personally if someone wanted to call me a loser for taking time off for family, I'd tell them to shove it up their ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 02:41 PM
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She tried to claw my neck lol. I think she was just getting a bit overstimulated though, because she can't cuddle for too long
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 02:17 AM
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Not a lot in suburban Los Angeles I think you haven't seen the poor suburbs near LA, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:08 AM
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So what qualifies as "falling into one's lap" here? Because I don't feel like I've ever had to exert myself THAT much, but it also just doesn't feel like work when you're just enjoying yourself and connecting with people. When I actually actively dated, I never made presumptions about what would happen with them. Of course, I went on my own share of dates that went nowhere, but I wouldn't call those experiences poor or say it was wasted effort or anything. I guess you can sorta say my current re…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:03 PM
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That's part of it, but American food in general just goes extremely heavy on carbs and sugar. Honestly the best way to remain at a healthy weight is just to cook your own meals as often as you can. I'm the same weight I was when I first went to college partially because of that, or so I like to think anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 09:10 PM
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I will, until she tries to kill me in my sleep again, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 08:37 PM
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Not being fat means you are in the fittest 1/3 by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 08:21 PM
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Yes! She is small and hyper and kinda a butt. Very sweet though. As far as we know, she is 7, but the vet was saying she seems more like she might be a year or two old.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 08:19 PM
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40% between 20 and 39 are obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 08:11 PM
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Don't forget all the sugar we consume now. Apparently going back to 1970, the average American at 30 lbs less of sugar per year, which is about 20% less than the 150+ lbs we are at today.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 08:06 PM
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You're saying that someone who says.... "people generally know what they want by the time they hit 30" is ban worthy? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 08:00 PM
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Hey, my cat is a totally healthy weight! But I have had to reduce her portion size a bunch because the shelter was feeding her a lot, since she came in underweight. The previous cat, we got as a chonk and she lost a couple pounds while we had her. Seriously though, as someone who is very skinny, I feel like I'm always pretty heavily pressured by others to overeat. I rarely if ever give in to it, but I am constantly reminded of my lack of weight by others. Funny thing is that every medical profes…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 07:57 PM
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TIL I'm a 2/3 scale American man. Also, r/chonkers can attest to the rise in cat obesity as well. Everyone and everything is fat now due to.... A lot of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 07:50 PM
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Didn't you bring something entirely unrelated into the conversation by bringing up their occupation? That usually breaks a rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 07:47 PM
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Big whoop, you said something troll-ish and got banned for it. That's what happens when you pick fights needlessly on boards that have relatively strict moderation, specifically because people pick fights needlessly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 07:31 PM
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Lol, the only time I can recall being banned for anything was over a decade ago when I was playing an online game and the admins thought I was wallhacking because I was thoroughly kicking everyone's asses. Turns out I was just great at that game.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:55 PM
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Eh, can't really judge what happened with you unless I saw the actual exchange, but relationship subs are always contentious because of the people involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:19 PM
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Literally never banned anywhere on reddit (or anywhere else), but I also make a point not to frequent subs that are super toxic, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:50 PM
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And i mean.. i guess it is respectable to be able to excell while doing a lot, but it's crossed a line where people are willing to kill themselves to be "more hard working" than the next guy. Yep, and what even is the reward? If I can get 95% of the result for half the effort, I am more than happy. I don't really see hard work as virtuous if it means you're going to burn yourself out. More importantly though, one big thought process that guides my actions is that if I am working hard, it means I…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:41 PM
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Yea I agree with you on this. I'm privileged enough to work a job at an org that cares about work-life balance a lot relative to most, especially in their industry, but I know that's definitely not the norm. Even worse, a lot of people seem to take pride in overworking themselves, or overworking their employees. There's a reason I have a rather strong anti-work bent, and a good chunk of that is because early in my career, I was pushed into a role where I was totally burnt out after less than a y…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:27 PM
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Yea. The parental leave policy here is dogshit. I think a lot of modern issues that young families face could be alleviated by proper parental leave. As far as paid vacation goes, Americans also work more than those in other developed countries. The average American worker actually works more hours yearly than the average worker in Japan. Edit: Also, while I'm on my soapbox, new fathers should also receive paid parental leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:57 PM
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Yep. The US also doesn't mandate any paid vacation time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:53 PM
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Picture /r/Cringetopia but everyone unironically calls themselves alphas or calls people betas or cucks. Also there’s no sense of humor. Lmao, little bit. This sub has a massive stick up its ass about..... anything fun, basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 11:54 PM
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Because RP views all sex that happens with them as a positive?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 11:31 PM
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Well they’re not boring unless you’re speaking of those more interested in the more dramatic stances. PPD is a dramatic place, to be fair. Which makes no sense because we actually need those. Hence why that one would cause outrage, lol. That being said, there are some very real conversations that can be had about incentivizing transit use/disincentivizing personal vehicle use for certain areas, and using public transit as an engine for economic growth, but that gets into policy around.... transi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 11:30 PM
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Hence why I specifically call my views boring, lol. It's so boring that I don't think there's really such a thing as controversial opinions on the matter, short of advocating for banning cars or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 11:16 PM
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What are you views exactly and why do you consider them wonky? Well, mostly my views are rather boring for where I live. The wonky part is that when it comes to the actual political issues I care about in any real way, I'm pretty much purely focused on transit policy. At the local level, I'm basically a single-issue voter on transit expansion, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 11:06 PM
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Agreed. But they actually realize it matters. And they are aiming for a lowest common denominator target. While not fashionable they are ahead of most men, who don't seem to even realize that what they wear matters. Sure. I'm just saying that's specifically a focus area of mine in my own life to an extent that most on here or TRP don't really have.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 10:31 PM
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Great, but that wasn't the question. The question was how do non-RP men differ from RP men. It was not about how I deviate from TRP theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 10:12 PM
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I've seen plenty of pictures of reds on PPD over the years, and talking about style/fashion on PPD enough to know that the prevailing sense of style on PPD tops out at bland/basic. Also basing this on what self-identified red-pillers have specifically said. But ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 09:57 PM
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where does it say that redpillers dont care about clothing/style/aesthetic? Heh, you're kidding, right? Most reds I've seen pictures of have really bland/boring/bleh sense of style. Even talking about fashion on PPD, it's pretty blatant how..... basic the average man on PPD's style is. I also specifically was highlighting how I am different from TRP believers ASIDE from stuff that is explicitly related to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 09:56 PM
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Aside from thinking TRP is a joke? I'm really mellow and easy-going most of the time, which seems to be in very short supply in TRP/manosphere world. When I make decisions, I tend to weigh the impacts of my decisions on others much more heavily than TRP seems to advocate. I also seemingly care WAY more about clothing/style/aesthetic than most in the pill world, but that developed really independently of all this stuff, since that was due to my involvement in organizing streetwear fashion shows i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 08:06 PM
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but if you talk to people in real life, what they say they like is 99% of the time what they actually like unless they're extremely religious or something This is pretty much where I am at. What people around me say and do is usually very aligned. When it isn't it's usually someone dealing with instability in their life, or being unable to be direct and honest with themselves first and foremost.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 06:47 PM
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Black pill is brain rot, dear lord. But to develop social skills, go find things you like and try to connect with people over them in a genuine way. Authenticity reads really positively to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 02:13 PM
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There is no example you can pull that says men who are capable in the things outlined in the OPs paragraphs that could ever possibly lower a man’s SMV. Nowhere on the planet is knowing how to turn a wrench and use a chopsaw going to make a man less attractive. I never said this? Of course having those skills isn't actually a bad thing. What I was referring specifically was social class/cultural fit. OP explicitly is talking about conservative voting/traditional blue collar individuals, who are g…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 10:04 PM
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LMAO, ok, whatever you say. Even though I've lived in the PNW for a decade. I can see someone like OP described fitting in in the more outlying suburbs/exurbs, but in the two major metro areas (so.... Seattle and Portland), I can't see that type of person fitting in in the inner suburbs/urban areas. But like..... if you're asking me if this person fits in in like.... Enumclaw, Puyallup or Snohomish in WA or something, sure. If you are saying that type of person would fit in culturally in the mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 06:26 PM
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Lmao right? That isn't cheap. There's also plenty of people who just don't want children, like you said. My girlfriend and I are eventually planning on children, but we also want to give them an upbringing that was at least as good as our own. Not being able to do that is setting them up for failure and parental malpractice imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 04:24 PM
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That makes a lot of sense. When it comes to the people I've been interested in in the past, I tended to care a lot about their eventual career path, but that was mostly a product of caring about social class background and having similar cultural touchstones. I also grew up relatively privileged though so that would explain a lot of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 07:17 AM
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I agree with that. I think all people have phases where they have beliefs they grow out of, and maybe even beliefs they are not proud to have held. The real marker of maturity is whether someone can grow past those beliefs and become a more well-rounded/grounded person.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 06:58 AM
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My girlfriend and I are 25 and 26 now and each of us makes roughly the median household income in our city at this point (so.... 2x the median income in our HCOL city combined). We're both doing pretty well, but I think there's some level of understanding that huge career jumps usually come with a big hit to that balance, so it's going to be something to look out for. I've already been burnt out of a job once, so I don't want a repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 06:37 AM
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For sure! I also think there's some level of people not necessarily knowing what kinds of work environments set themselves up for success outside of work as well, and that taking some time to figure out. Honestly, in a weird way, I almost view work similarly to how I view relationships because of the parallels between the two, even though I don't necessarily consider relationships to really be work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 06:30 AM
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And I am always shocked by the latest thing these people churn out. I've been around this sub for SO long (like, 2014), and I can't believe it actually got more insane from when I joined. But then.... a lot of the communities that popped up in the manosphere since I found this place are also absolutely bonkers. The overlap of red pill/manosphere/alt right is particularly entertaining, especially when you see stuff about people complaining that their views are specifically why people don't seem t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 06:27 AM
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I had a job earlier in my career (market researcher, which was interesting) where I was working 60+ hours a week sometimes and managing 5+ research projects end to end with basically no support. That job + the shitty management at the company I was at destroyed my mental health and nearly killed my relationship. My current role, as a technical consultant, is so much more manageable in comparison, and I expend so much less energy on work. That combined with being remote, has really been good for …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 06:21 AM
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This might be the most neurotic shit I've read on PPD. Dear lord.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 06:15 AM
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Yea, I'm way better once I can start having a conversation with people. It's weird because I'm actually rather awkward in social situations, or at least was for a while, but apparently I make REALLY positive impressions on the people I chat with at work. I've been remote for years now, so it's really just when I have role discussions if I am looking at joining a new project though, or if I have one on ones with people that I want to learn from. Apparently I was the one of the only people in my e…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 05:47 AM
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Why does someone have to work hard and why does that matter? I can't imagine you actually think people working hard/trading their labor for insignificant funds is attractive. Heh, I'm pretty sure my girlfriend hates that I actually specifically talk about how much I hate the concept of work. I'm always looking for ways to make my job easier/do less work/reduce my energy expended during work, even though I am quite well-paid (and for that matter, really good at what I do). I think working hard CA…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 05:14 AM
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That sounds about right. Suburban west coast or PNW, also would not fit well imo. Maybe once you get into Eastern Washington/Idaho, Eastern Oregon, or inland California, would probably fit in ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 04:11 AM
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I know plenty of blue-collar progressives. Yea, the issues are def more about attitudes than occupation, I'd imagine. Talking with my girlfriend, she doesn't even want to deal with blue collar work environments, specifically because of the workplace attitudes that come about, and because of the role she'd be in (as an HR person).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 03:39 AM
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Depends on where you are located and your interests, really. I don't think rural blue collar dudes appeal to an urban demographic very much if at all. Blue collar small town types might as well not exist to my social circle as it stands now. Edit: I'd say appeal to the suburban demographic would be hit or miss. The thing here is that it's going to really come down to social class as much as location. Middle class+ types aren't going to be interested in people who don't share the same cultural va…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 03:37 AM
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At this point, the only remedy is surgical extraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 01:07 AM
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This entire sub has a stick that is the size of a fucking redwood tree up their ass. It's ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:56 AM
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Nah, they can’t be tastier than salmon Bears have confirmed this. They keep eating salmon instead of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 10:31 PM
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Lmao, right? It's ridiculous and show's this sub's hyper-fixation on an ultra-visible demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 10:21 PM
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In my own relationship, I can count the number of times my girlfriend has been hit on in the last 7+ years on one hand. She doesn't seem remotely receptive to that kind of attention, so it is quite rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 09:22 PM
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To take this a step further, salmon have inherent value as an important food source in their ecosystem. Therefore, they are more valuable than men, who have been deemed by the manosphere to have no value at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 08:43 PM
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Lmao right? I'm on the introverted side myself and like a lot of time to just relax on my own. There's plenty of others that are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 05:04 AM
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No shit. Sure banging every chick I wanted to would be cool, but imagine the cost and work. That's for the people with trust funds and no careers. I buy my T-shirts in a 5 pack. They are all pretty much the same. Sure 5 different designer shirts would be nice, but these are affordable and I know they fit. I also drive a 98 subaru. It was about $900 and 10 hrs of wrenching all said, but its pretty reliable and gets me to work. Pretty fun in the snow. Sure I could buy a new Vette off the lot, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 02:04 AM
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Thats why people usually just stand around and stare if someone is being raped, robed, or otherwise attacked in front of them. Yea, I think that's both a combination of bystander effect, and the extreme hyper-individualization that is caused by things like prosperity gospel and other similar ideas. There always seems to be a push to tell people that they deserved what has happened to them, when in many cases, they just did not. People in this sub also can't distinguish humans from each other. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 12:50 AM
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People in abusive relationships are mentally ill. Both the abuser and the victim have problems. Which is why then end up and stay in abusive relationships. Pretty much. People in abusive relationships often enter them with a host of preexisting issues. What's more concerning for me is that so many on PPD seem hell-bent on trying to justify abuse. It's gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 12:34 AM
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Yes, that's exactly what happened. By then she was in love with him and invested That's almost always how it goes. Abuse heavily works to exploit human psychology to control others.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 12:31 AM
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Dear god, this shit again? Here is a good list of why people stay in abusive relationships. More data about how abuse works. Abusive relationships follow a cycle of violence, and the following can be reasons for why someone sticks around: Finances, nowhere else to live, no support system, children, blaming themselves for it, rationalizing it, low self-esteem, or even loving the person who is hurting them. Almost always, it's a mix of multiple things off this list (taken from the 2nd link). You p…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 12:15 AM
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More than one relationship just sounds tiring and dramatic. Bleh.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 10:24 PM
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That's pretty much the norm in every environment I've been in, even companies that aren't notably progressive or anything. My current org is very progressive compared to ones I've been at in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 07:31 PM
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Heh, right? I actually have the opposite going on where I am very skinny and have a small/narrow frame, and embracing a more body positive perspective was really good for my ability to accept myself. Once I learned to be more comfortable in my own skin, I started to be able to let loose a bit and focus on the things I care about more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 07:30 PM
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Explain to me why you think body positivity (not specifically fat acceptance) is a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 05:47 PM
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Heh, sounds about right. My girlfriend is her company's HR director and is in charge of selecting all the mandatory trainings for them and all of them involved scenarios where a man was being harassed and what to do in those situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 05:37 PM
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Eh, two things. Body positivity isn't just about acceptance with regards to dating, and it isn't only about fat acceptance. There's plenty of things people are shamed over that they can't necessarily change.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 05:32 PM
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Because plenty of men actively shit on the concept of body positivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 04:29 PM
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Realize this place is an insane asylum and needs to be treat as a place that is used for entertainment purposes only. Also, I think a good chunk of people on this sub are just absolutely terrible, and I generally don't trust terrible people to have perspectives on the world that aren't colored by their obviously strong biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 03:33 AM
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There isn't a significant-enough amount of famous people for it to matter, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 09:43 PM
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How does one screen for that. Do you just show them a picture of this very glorious large chonk and if they don't love it, you're out?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 09:17 PM
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Yes. Katmai national park does a bracket competition each year for which grizzly bear chonked up best over summer. It's hilarious seeing how absolutely gigantic some of the bears get, and you can even watch them fishing for salmon via cameras placed in a bunch of lookout spots.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 07:37 PM
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Haha why your obsession with bears specifically? I find their shapes and sizes to be amusing. As far as why I hate suburbs.... I would prefer not to have more than one car for a household and like to take public transit. And I just hate the urban planning of most American suburbs. Not walkable and they tend to be pretty boring and not super dense on housing. I also just generally hate how most suburban houses look (and tbh, most new housing feels cheap to me too), since they are usually designs …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 07:00 PM
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Lmao, right? Plenty of people who do a good job managing a single relationship would not even be close to being able to handle multiple either. And many people just don't WANT that. An open relationship honestly just sounds tiresome.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:31 PM
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Lack of career attainment/education, disliking bears and fat bear week (because everyone knows bears are glorious), bad teeth, poor fashion sense. Edit: Forgot one. Liking suburbs
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:30 PM
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Nah, bad grammar drives me fucking nuts. I love my girlfriend but she gets lazy as hell with grammar occasionally and I want to go full grammar nazi.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:29 PM
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Where is the idea that open relationships will become the norm coming from? Like, 5% of relationships are open.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 05:34 PM
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Under automod since it's a Q for Women. It's not so much about fitting a niche as much as it is about finding pieces you like and developing your style to mesh with the type of image you want to project. Any outfit worn by someone who isn't feeling it will look awkward/blah on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 08:33 AM
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Your troll game is weak, get good.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:42 AM
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I’m talking for those seeking long term relationships. Your wife gets sick of hearing your voice. If I was talking about “getting chicks” that I’d say the opposite … talk a lot Nah, this is dumb as hell. Wtf kind of relationship is someone in if they can't freely express themselves within reason, lmao. Sounds miserable as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:31 AM
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My disappointment in PPD is palpable, yet my expectations are already so low.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 01:53 AM
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The social incompetence is blinding. Get a grip people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:39 AM
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Nobody wants to watch a video. Dear lord.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:35 AM
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I wouldn't call it surprise so much as.... venting? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 07:46 PM
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I don't think anyone is as glorious as 747. This is peak performance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:05 PM
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Eh, I'm also a late Millennial whose tastes are decidedly pacific northwest/grunge/streetwear-y, so that kinda makes sense. Think it's better to have a specific signature style rather than to trend-hop, but that also takes time/energy/thought so it's a finer line to walk. I've also really nailed how to dress for my body type though, and since I'm long-limbed and relatively narrow, the layers work really well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 07:01 AM
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I mean, most of it seems to be FOMO from my vantage point. It just seems to be a specific form of FOMO relating to someone's past relationships/lifestyles/partners, instead of other ways it can manifest. I guess it can also be a fear of having already missed out as well. That would be the root cause of a lot of the insecurities that seem to cause this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:32 AM
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This woman is going through a divorce and she is able to be blatantly sexual and she will get no shortage of suitors. Sounds like..... anecdata! Can't give less of a shit about what one woman is doing, quite frankly. And Tinder has like, 3-4x the number of male users as women, which is a really really easy way to explain the disparity in matching. Large pool with a more selective audience vs. small pool with a very unselective audience. Men already are less selective than women, disparate dating…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 05:26 AM
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But the people in the world outside tinder are the exact people on tinder, and if they’re not it’s because they gave up on it. Source? So as a man under 6’ who doesn’t meet women’s standards you might find a woman who will give you a chance after she has been with a lot of guys from those apps, but the kicker is that she will be settling for you because she never would have included you in her sex life before. Source? So while a woman has racked up 30+ partners a man has been waiting impatiently…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 05:05 AM
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Great, now imagine the whole world outside of Tinder. Chadfishing is a fucking joke, honestly. If that's what counts as "research", the word research has lost all meaning. That being said, I do recommend going fishing in Lake Chad, where you can get a large variety of freshwater fish. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishing_in_Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 05:00 AM
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It's almost like I worked on developing my social skills, go figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:50 AM
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PPD is basically weaponized social incompetence at this point, dear lord.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:36 AM
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This sub is an absolute trash fire, lmao. I can't with these topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:34 AM
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But we're so many decades removed rom traditional masculinity, it would be interested in hearing why you think that. Culture doesn't just change overnight. Traditional masculinity as it was before still exists, sometimes in modernized forms. When I say traditional notions of masculinity, that's basically just.... "what society thinks being a man entails" and I don't really see the definition of masculinity now being THAT much different from how it was before. Modern masculinity is still derived …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 08:16 PM
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I think TRP is absolute garbage and don't believe unconditional love as you posit it exists (or at least, is realistic in any way). Love as a concept though? Absolutely exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 08:09 PM
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Yea, at least for the argument with transit, it isn't even about commutes. It's about accessibility to economic opportunities and increasing economic activity. Public transit is just good public policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 07:49 PM
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Your assumptions are on point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 06:55 PM
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I assumed toxic masculinity described needlessly violent/agressive men, sexist men, men who lack empathy, and men that exploit their power over others. That's always been my understanding of it. I also would frame it as.... the ways in which traditional societal notions of masculinity as a concept work to hurt/undermine men. A good example of it is how an extreme over-emphasis on self-reliance harms men by making them internalize their issues, thus damaging their mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 06:50 PM
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Most are relatively matched. Don't really hand-wring about degrees too much. It's rare to see couples that are so mismatched I actually notice it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 05:50 PM
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Yea, it's so transparently bullshit. But the media in the US fawns over wealth and power so it's what we got.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:57 PM
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This is true. Tim Eyman is a horse's ass. The way I see it, Harrell is basically Durkan part 2 (and for that matter, Murray) and was on City Council forever. The fact that he's trying to cast himself as the change candidate is ridiculous. Don't love Gonzalez, but I think NIMBYism is way worse of an issue when it comes to solving homelessness so I guess that kinda made my choice for me. That being said, the idea that one city can solve an entire region's/state's/country's homelessness issue is al…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:56 PM
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Because when you are rich and powerful they can do trashy things and then pay the media to say “wow how awesome, what a power move”. Pretty much where I am at. Money doesn't suddenly impart class. Trashy people who get rich are just trashy people who have money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:44 PM
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Someone who votes against a tax to fund more public transport that would help working class people get to work cheaply because it would increase the cost of their Tesla’s car tabs is sociopathic. After that fucking Tim Eyman initiative, I feel heated about this, lmao. I want more goddamn light rail without the funding getting fucked over and over again. Also, NIMBYs, NIMBYs everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:40 PM
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It's just a look, but I also distressed mine by hand after I bought a few thrifted pairs of pants. For someone who doesn't want a super clean cut look, it's an easy way to achieve that. I hate looking too manicured/clean cut and find that look bland so that's why I like the look.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:24 PM
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Assuming that average is a median, 7 is totally believable. The US is relatively religious especially compared to other developed nations, and even plenty of non-religious people pair off before that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:42 PM
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Heh, I can see that argument going either way, given my own lived experiences, but I do get the point about walking that tightrope of masculine AND also progressive/cultured.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 06:39 AM
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Brb, gonna stop requiring vaccines for schools then. Look, even Supreme Court precedent disagrees with you. Justice John Marshall Harlan, writing for court’s majority, concluded that states under their general police powers had the ability to enact vaccine laws to protect citizens. Justice Louis Brandeis wrote in the Court’s decision that “long before this suit was instituted, Jacobson v. Massachusetts, had settled that it is within the police power of a state to provide for compulsory vaccinati…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 06:04 AM
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Yes "11 times" sounds like a big number, but if the actual numbers aren't very big, "11 times" can still mean "not a big threat." It's the difference between under 1 per 100k and over 9 per 100k. The data is right there. If there is a precaution that is there, no reason not to take it. That's been reported in the UK already. Also, the most vaccinated states and countries have been seeing an increased surge in COVID cases among those vaccinated, so... ring ring! Source? If it's this Missing conte…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 05:52 AM
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Meh, if you don't want to do literally the bare fucking minimum to keep those around you protected, I see no issue with places requiring vaccine or proof of negative test.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 05:47 AM
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Yea, I think I spent a good year or so being under-employed, but I got a couple big names on my resume which was a big boost for me. Not totally sure where I'll go from here, but I'm on track for a promotion by March if all goes well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 05:37 AM
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I'm loving not going in to work in-person honestly. I actually have energy to socialize now, instead of being burnt out from working and dealing with people all day. I gotta start trying a bit more on my current project since it's ramping up, but..... I also scored a 70% raise mid-pandemic, so if anything, everything career-wise is going great, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 05:20 AM
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The data straight up says you are 11x more likely to die due to covid if you are unvaxxed too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 05:18 AM
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The day we require proof of vaccine and/or negative test for a bunch of stuff here in my county, including recreational activities, dining, and large outdoor events.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 05:18 AM
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the conspiracy theorists and those skeptical of this vaccine have been on the right side of the debate the whole time /r/HermanCainAward Covid-19: Unvaccinated face 11 times risk of death from delta variant, CDC data show Look, there's even some handy data! Call me when vaccinated people start dying at a greater rate than the unvaccinated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 05:16 AM
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What led to your most recent fight and/or argument with your partner? I am suspicious all of you are in perfect relationships… Uhhh, when I woke up my girlfriend at 1 AM after the cat tried to kill me in my sleep by murdering my throat, and she said I didn't banish the cat fast enough, lmao. But she was also half-asleep and mad that she was woken up, so meh. We don't really have emotionally charged fights/arguments because I don't actually care enough to fight/argue about most things, and the th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 05:10 AM
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I've said this before but even in my super liberal city I knew very few people who actually "locked down". Right? Honestly doesn't even seem THAT different from pre-covid, except for downtown being quiet and there being fewer large events, but even those are coming back now. The 25th can't get here fast enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 05:07 AM
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The lack of transparency was the action there. If she broke it off with the one guy beforehand, or was transparent about it and the OP was fine with it, who cares at that point. Both have the full set of information to work with then and can make informed decisions about what they want. The OP only feels taken advantage of because he got put in a position where she withheld information from him, which was obviously wrong. If he knew, he either could have left or just gone along with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:57 AM
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I mean, it really just shows a difference in values, right? If she liked him enough, she should have just been transparent about what was going on with herself. I guess there's no obligation to actually say anything, but it feels an awful lot like there's lying by omission there. People aren't mind-readers, so telling someone they are wrong to have assumed they were exclusive is silly if all the other person's actions indicated something that was exclusive. Best case, the person is a terrible co…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:48 AM
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Aside from that whole sub being a creative writing exercise.... that just seems like it's about an asshole being an asshole and getting caught being an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:41 AM
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Because..... abstinence is a vestige of religious morality? Because we have modern contraception? Because sex ed now is better than it was previously (in theory anyway)? Because physical compatibility is an important part of most relationships? Could be a whole lot of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 01:56 AM
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Yea I always found life got progressively better from my teenage years and onwards. High school wasn't my favorite. College was pretty good, and being graduated and just working has been totally fine. Just is a matter of finding your people and learning how to tolerate others and diffuse the aspects of their behavior that are grating/difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 12:20 AM
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Yea, I totally get why you'd feel that way. Hopefully you feel a bit better than I did after my shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 12:18 AM
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How long ago was the second dose? I was feeling passable after 30ish hours and by 48 hours I was sluggish but fine otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 12:15 AM
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Interesting. I tend to heavily filter my interactions so that I'm only dealing with people who are neutral or whom I genuinely like, but I guess what you are saying makes sense. Someone who keeps their head down and does the right thing is just less visible than a loud obnoxious trash fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 12:10 AM
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Oh yea, I was knocked out by dose 2. Just sleep it off if you need to. Might be a day or two before you feel right.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 12:09 AM
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What's a car? I'm out here taking light rail. But really the issue is a combo of mileage, efficiency, and driving time, right? Premium is.... Seemingly 20ish cents more a gallon than regular so it's pretty much a pittance in additional cost per fill if you aren't filling up super frequently. That's my perception anyway. The difference in cost between gas grades can add up, but I'd imagine you'd save way more by just driving less or having a more fuel efficient vehicle.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 12:05 AM
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Ah, maybe, idk. Obviously I can't speak to your experiences. I think defending an ideal on PPD is a bit of a fool's errand really. No person can live up to their ideal state consistently all the time and to expect them to do so is to effectively expect them not to be human.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 12:01 AM
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I feel like if anything, my irl interactions are significantly better than what PPD claims, or at least they surpass my expectations for others generally. Don't really think there is a meaningful difference in quality of my interactions based on gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 11:52 PM
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Tbf this is the same person who previously posted that their husband said they aren't attractive so..... I think there's some issues everywhere here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 11:47 PM
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Weird, when I see TRP dudes on here, I see them describing interactions with pretty much exclusively lower middle class and working class women. Not really seeing much if anything that fits with the UMC+ experience ime.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 11:44 PM
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I'll never get people who go through with something like that, lmao. Dear lord.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 11:42 PM
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They are like.... Rubber dipped high top sneakers made of kangaroo leather and go for 1k+ on the second hand market, or something. I just really like that.... Idk, post-apocalyptic aesthetic they got. Normally I wear my worn black boots that were covered in spray paint with an outfit like that though. Next step is to start sewing and making my own items tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 08:05 PM
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Don't really love that outfit since it feels too..... what, manicured/sterile? lol Style is such a personal thing though. It all depends on the guy, his body type, and the image he wants to project, so I think there's a lot of variation in what someone can do that will allow them to do well as far as being attractive Anyway... Shoes - these specific ones are fucking impossible to find though Pants - the pinroll is key there, generally would go skinny fit, hand-distressed, but a darker shade of b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 07:28 PM
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Exactly this. There's so many styles to choose from for all different shapes and sizes too. I get that it takes effort, but it isn't THAT difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 07:11 PM
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Examples of what specifically? What objectification looks like, or what seeing someone as a sexual being without objectifying them looks like?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:44 PM
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Ok, here is how I think about it. Is the person in a venue where they are going to be open to that type of specific sexual attention? If so, then some stuff is fair game, while other stuff may be crossing a line. Social interaction is fairly complex so I won't claim to have all the answers, but I think objectification is pretty clear-cut in that it's something one does for their own satisfaction first. Words/phrasing matter so what's being said exactly would determine where the line is. I still …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:41 PM
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I mean, it's not. Catcalling specifically is inherently objectifying and disrespectful. Under basically every single definition, it falls under the form of low-tier street harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:27 PM
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Pfft. Definitely sounds like an objective and unbiased definition. Literally the definition from the Oxford English dictionary, jfc. Your line of argument is nonsense. You can see someone physically, but also understand that humans largely have specific things that contribute to their humanity, and that ignoring those things and viewing them as an object alone is ignoring the things that make them human.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:25 PM
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Catcalling is inherently disrespectful, so I don't really see your point here, as catcalling specifically is objectifying in nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:20 PM
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PPD is currently working on sanding down all the folds in its collective brain at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:18 PM
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What's a typical outfit for you like? But I also get compliments on my outfits from both men and women when they do happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:16 PM
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Want the actual fucking definition of objectification? the action of degrading someone to the status of a mere object This specifically means actively seeing them as.... not human. Seeing someone as a physical body isn't objectification per se. Seeing someone as JUST their body is. You can see someone as a subject being observed instead of an object.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:13 PM
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I mean, I think OP's framing of it as "seeing women as sexual = objectification" is also just fucking dumb, tbf. I'd say what it comes down to is what a person and their partner are comfortable with as well, but I would say that at the very least, seeing a person as human is healthy, and seeing someone as a sexual being isn't innately objectifying them. A good way to think of it is.... seeing them as a subject, rather than as an object.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:12 PM
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Hmmm, not specific guides or anything. Big thing is identifying pieces you like that are.... signature/statement pieces, then building a wardrobe around that. I think generally having an understanding of different trends, matching colors, and the subcultures you are involved in is the biggest thing, followed by observation. I also worked on a few fashion shows in college though, so my experience with that probably helped. Look into locally made brands as well, since you might find interesting bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:09 PM
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You can easily see someone as a sexual being while ALSO seeing them as human and not as an object. Not really that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:00 PM
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Most men adamantly refuse to dress worth a damn This one drives me nuts! You don't even need to wear stuff that is.... "nice" (e.g. dressy) per se. Just creating an aesthetic for yourself that suits the energy you give off and the vibe you want to create is enough! Most dudes I have seen/know completely lack proper statement pieces in their wardrobe that are coherent with the rest of their style as well. Can't tell you how many times someone has either complimented my overall outfits or specific…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 05:21 PM
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Yea, it's also kinda a sliding scale based on what you want and life circumstances, but.... if someone is accumulating debt without good reason to (and it's not like..... tied to assets), or has no savings (and no plan to improve that), or has no viable career path, those are all very bad. A lot of financial management skills that an individual has also are proxies for how responsible the person is in general, so honestly it's a bigger indicator there as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 05:14 PM
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Well that's if your highest priority is love. Some people might actually be prioritizing status, finances, or sex above that. Right, but even if you prioritize those things.... if you detest the person, eventually those things will fizzle and die. But yea, the general sentiment is that those relationships aren't built to last anyway, or if they do, it is completely in spite of the resentment there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 05:02 PM
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To me, poor financial habits are a bigger deal-breaker than basically anything else. I think anyone that remotely cares about economic attainment and career usually also has this standard as implicit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 04:55 PM
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For any relationship, genuinely liking the other person is a huge one. For LTRs/marriages, shared values, education, thoughtfulness, empathy, the ability to pull their own weight are all things that are essential. Edit: Also adding compatibility in general. Sometimes you just communicate well with someone and prioritizing that makes sense. When a person gets you, that's a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 04:54 PM
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I'd only ever want to be in a relationship with someone who is more introverted. Extrovert energy tires me out quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 12:41 AM
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My guess is.... Emotionally vomit all their burdens onto their partner, lol. I've had plenty of conversations about my thoughts and feelings over the last 7+ years in my relationship and it's been a complete non-issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 10:49 PM
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Lol, even as a guy I was a horribly awkward teenager. Had zero sense of style, social anxiety, just wasn't a super pleasant person to be around. Good thing I grew up significantly even in the first 1-2 years right after I left HS. Feel like the only people that think women's looks peak in HS don't understand what Dawson casting in films/TV is, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 03:30 PM
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Plenty of women are significantly more attractive in their 20s than their teenage years. Only way you look worse is if you treat your body like crap and are like, doing meth or some shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 02:55 PM
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Good think people don't cognitively develop after reaching 18 years old. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 02:50 PM
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There goes PPD again fetishizing high school. What happens when a man is making less money than the woman he is dating lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 02:40 PM
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Man, PPD is a magnet for people with fucking weird questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 04:05 AM
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If I wasn't familiar with PPD, I'd think that this place couldn't be serious with the way people here act/talk/claim to live. Feel like a creative writer could have a LOT of fun on this sub if they wanted to go that route.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 11:47 PM
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Pandas are an example of successful evolution. The food source they evolved to eat has damn near no competition and is super plentiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 09:53 PM
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I mean, on the same token, they were listening to what people told them they were supposed to do. The thought is in there that if you do X, Y will happen, but it isn't true, and these guys don't learn that until later, or eventually until they get to the end of the rope where they tried everything and nothing worked. But.... if you aren't trying to understand WHY something works, that totally kills your chances even if it is something that CAN work. No advice is so tailored that it's just plug a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 08:59 PM
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Well of course, but that's also part of the issue too. These guys might not know why doing the things people are telling them works, but then they do it thinking that it's the fix to their problems and then become disappointed when it didn't work. If you try something without actually understanding WHY you should try it, it kinda is way more likely to fall flat. Don't need to be disappointed if it didn't work though. That's when you self-reflect and understand WHY it didn't work. Some people don…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 08:33 PM
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Frankly a lot of that advice also says something to the effect of "try smarter, you fucking smooth-brain", lol. Trying harder doesn't matter if you are being a dumbass and not thinking through the things you are doing and the reasoning behind them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 08:16 PM
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But men wallowing about how they are subhuman losers who only watch porn and play video games and don’t know how to make IRL friends isn’t a solution either. Clearly. I'm not exactly advocating for that either, lol. You know how much distaste I have for those types.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 06:31 PM
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I was a big sourpuss who wore black, didn’t give a fuck about anyone, talked shit behind people’s back when I actually did speak to people. I stopped doing those things, but still had a negative attitude and whined too much. Finally someone told me to knock it off and I did Yea, being an asshole and a downer kinda torpedoes anyone's social status unless they make up for it in some other area.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 06:28 PM
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lol, I'm literally on the autism spectrum. It was years of therapy (mainly focused on identifying social cues, re-centering my perception of myself, building conversational skills, body language, etc.), repetition, and practice, and then going so far out of my comfort zone that I was forced to adapt (moving away from family to a new state). Also, frankly, I was a miserable asshole, and as I learned to become more accepting of others, and tried to view the world more positively, my social interac…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 06:27 PM
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I wish that worked as well as you hope it does. As far as both Greek life and military orgs go, there is a huge issue with sexual assault, and that doesn't even begin to touch hazing. And the biggest targets of hazing would be the misfits these things are supposed to ostensibly help. I don't think you can get rid of the toxicity without also getting rid of the forced proximity in all these environments. Maybe healthy mentorship does something to help, but the culture these environments continual…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:53 PM
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To be fair, everyone hates Charles.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:21 PM
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Right, but even with the proxy suggestions, I still think there is the issue of forced proximity breeding toxic behavior, and.... also those environments all rewarding conformity and often punishing people who deviate too much from the norm. I guess in some sense, that's the point, but some people just aren't meant for certain environments and do need to be supported as they find where they fit. Those people are often late bloomers that aren't necessarily worse socially, but have different inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:15 PM
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I do think that being fit and active in someone's younger years is good, but I generally have issues with the way that forced proximity in social environments sometimes gets horribly toxic as well, so that's at least one concern. Those types of activities can be beneficial, but I'd also say that requires buy-in from the participants or else it's just kinda damaging to them in the long-run. I also just think a lot of people in the manosphere have problems that go WAY deeper than just needing to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:01 PM
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My girlfriend's main way of showing love is giving gifts. Yesterday she told me she already bought my Christmas presents for this year.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:18 PM
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That's exactly on-point. Most people on PPD are here due to trauma they have experienced. I think that's the biggest thing with this place. It's so charged because some many people here cannot process their pain, insecurities and fears. Granted, that isn't easy, but it's a necessary condition to mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 05:34 AM
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PPD is fucking bananas.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:35 AM
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My position is that half the workforce leaving the workforce would cause a massive shock and collapse. My example was one that just illustrated one facet of how it would become a shitshow.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:35 AM
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But that wasn't the claim in the OP. The OP claimed, and I quote "society would be completely fine". Society and the economy would collapse if half the workforce just up and left, no matter who that half consisted of.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:33 AM
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https://news.gallup.com/poll/328670/americans-expect-history-judge-trump-harshly.aspx Among US adults polled in 2021 (gen pop), 61% said that Trump would be remembered as a below average or poor president. 63% of independent voters rated him below average or poor. It isn't just historians that view him as a poor president.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:31 AM
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A bunch of angry people not getting paid would cause a massive societal shock. By that logic, society would not be completely fine (which is the OP's argument), and hiring to replace half the workforce would take a long time no matter what happened. Until those roles were filled with qualified full-time professionals, it would be a shitshow.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:28 AM
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Yes, there are people that do payroll jobs. Have you never heard of these things? Do you not know what business operations entail?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:26 AM
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80% of payroll professionals are women. If all women left the workforce, a bunch of men would throw a shitfit when they don't get paid, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:06 AM
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since PPD has the cream of the intellectual crop of Americans If this isn't quality sarcasm, I don't know what is. Since I want to give an actual answer, a survey of historians ranked Donald Trump as the 4th worst president ever. He was ranked ahead of Franklin Pierce and James Buchanan, whose presidencies precipitated the Civil War, and Andrew Johnson, who faced 11 articles of impeachment, and who torpedoed reconstruction. By this ranking, Trump is considered the worst president that wasn't fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:04 AM
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Unconditional love can lead to courtship. Is it really unconditional? Because courtship is entirely conditional on attraction to the person, or that person having something that the other person wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 04:56 PM
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I tend to agree with /u/flamingoinghome regarding the definitions of love used. I'd actually argue that love in relationships and marriage is highly conditional most of the time. I don't believe that loving selflessly in a relationship is somehow greater either, nor is it gendered. Romance is courtship behavior where you express these emotions - unconditional love through actions. The larger the intensity of emotions, the wilder the actions. I measure the magnitude by looking at the effect it ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 04:37 PM
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Right? PPD is a cornucopia of damaged people too, which is where the question would be asked most often. Context matters though. If someone is being an absolute prick, it's absolutely warranted to throw the question at them, even if it can be seen as antagonizing. People all have their own stories and their beliefs and feelings have context and come from somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 03:19 PM
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This is just further proof that men are the true romantics. They put aside their prey drive to pursue sex, which is clearly the only true expression of love. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 03:12 PM
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I thought PPD said that if women didn't have vaginas, they'd be hunted for sport. Imagine how romantic it is to be seen as prey. You could even be Ripley in Alien then! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 03:09 PM
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What's your definition of romantic here? Is it more idealistic, more loving? In any healthy relationship, I see women express love to their partners all the time, even big gestures. I don't really see a meaningful difference in the magnitude of love expressed by either gender. I don't really see men blinded by their love of someone. If anything, it's definitely being blinded by lust/thirst, ignoring red flags, and painting an idealized picture of that person in their head. But even then, I don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 03:08 PM
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Forced proximity is so toxic, and we understand that for any other environment Well, now that remote work has been normalized.... yes, lol. But seriously, I went to an elite private HS and our graduating class size was a shade over 100. There's a good chunk of people I didn't care for back then, and with the distance of time now..... they all seem fine minus a handful. In a lot of ways, being in that pressure-cooker environment was good for me, but it's not like I want to go back to that either.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 01:26 PM
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I think with a lot of these guys, they are still at the stage where their conception of how the world is tends to still be forming, so those shocks have outsized impact on their worldview. I think to some extent, everyone experiences that as their assumptions are challenged, but most people file that knowledge away and course-correct as needed. I'd say people with different layers of issues will probably experience more shock than others as well, so someone who is struggling with mental illness,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 01:22 PM
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Heh, I don't get people who idolize the teenage years. I look back on it and what I see is a bunch of people who largely are still figuring themselves out as people, who have yet to develop their own moral center/sense of self fully, and the social environments that most teens are in end up being rather toxic, I think due to a lot of the forced proximity. Like even thinking back to a decade ago, I cringe at a lot of stuff I said/did/believed and honestly don't really like how I was back then. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 01:14 PM
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That's more accurate lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 08:35 AM
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Not specific enough, but if she is not making your life better, kinda is a good enough reason to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 05:55 AM
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Lmao WTF kind of asshole tries to make their partner more insecure? That shit isn't normal. Frankly that's insane to me. No idea how this came to light or how you know it is intentional though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 05:45 AM
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Lmao even people who live in LA don't live in that world. LA isn't so different from other major metros that it's a totally different world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 05:38 AM
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I mean, baby got back was.... 1992 or 1993. That was the era of anorexic skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 05:30 AM
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Not all data is created equal, and a lot of times, things that are being attempted to be quantified don't necessarily make sense, when a lot of the data involved is qualitative.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 11:47 PM
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I don't think you understand sarcasm, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 10:09 PM
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Lol I am aware. It was definitely sarcasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 10:09 PM
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Meth is the drug of choice for all aspiring supermodels. Is this not obvious? Or crack. Just gotta get crack skinny to be above average. Edit: This was clearly sarcasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 09:56 PM
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OP's username is very accurate. PPD's need to put things into strict categories even when it isn't super relevant is.... Unhealthy to say the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 09:53 PM
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Pretty much. Asian dudes who are low inhibition and cool do well. The hip hop dance community sees a lot of participation from Asian people and all the guys involved there were living it up and partying pretty frequently. The dudes that don't do well are the types that are heads down and avoid socializing in any meaningful way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 09:36 PM
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I'd rather be my flair, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 09:10 PM
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bottom 30% Nah, maybe bottom 10%, quite frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:29 AM
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Already responded to someone else with this, but less than half of people 18-29 used tiktok as of April 2021. It's a coin flip chance that anyone in that age range you meet won't use it, and there's a relatively high probability that they aren't a heavy user of the platform even if they are users, since usage time skews much higher as you go down in age. It's really not too difficult to find people who aren't structuring their lives after social media usage, and if heavy use of social media is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:07 AM
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Social media is horribly toxic unless you curate your content religiously, pretty much. Found a good article on this with some relevant stuff. The News Feed’s algorithmic ordering of content flattened the hierarchy of credibility. Any post by any producer could stick to the top of our feeds as long as it generated engagement. “Fake news” would later flourish in this environment, as a personal blog post was given the same look and feel as a story from The New York Times. Kinda makes sense that ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 12:41 AM
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Nah, mid-20s. None of my immediate social circle uses it, and it's not really even super common in my extended social circle. Was curious so I went down the rabbit hole. Less than half of people 18-29 use TikTok as well, based on data from April. I wish they broke out the age ranges a bit more, but its usage isn't SO universal that you can't find people who don't use it or use it sparingly. https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2021/04/07/social-media-use-in-2021/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 12:17 AM
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What counts as very long term here? But I mean, my LTR has been 7+ years and its had its ups and downs. I think a lot of it comes down to what the bedrock of the relationship is founded upon, and where the attraction first was created, if that makes sense. I'd say that recreating the conditions of those times where things were good will usually be the best thing to do, but obviously it's not going to be 1:1 either. I think a lot of it also comes down to how you attach with someone as well, and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 11:30 PM
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Yea, that's how it was with my parent's investment. Property was long paid-off, had been a rental for a while, and the owners were absentee and lived a long ways away. Core systems aside from the electrical are in decent shape (and that was the first work that was completed). The property can be beautified but the bones are really good. The fact that it's in a prime location and they got it for a bit under list was kinda a steal. Edit: Worth noting though, that the electrical was fucking awful. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 09:03 PM
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Lol, this is totally the OP fishing for compliments.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 08:10 PM
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Solution. Don't use TikTok, and date people who don't use TikTok. Not that hard. Plenty of people have lives that don't revolve around social media, but you aren't going to see them if you are looking at social media, or at places where people whose lives revolve around social media are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 08:09 PM
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That's fair. My parents got an investment property near me and I'm working with them to project manage the repair/restore of it, and that's been an adventure. It's in decent shape buy just wasn't maintained super well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 08:08 PM
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That last on is absolutely ridiculous. Regarding the gf's friend who has some pretty narrow criteria, she's actually one of the coolest people I've met. Super driven, motivated, super kind, did peace corp in Africa for 2 years even, but she has been described as intimidating. I don't necessarily think she is, but for a lot of guys, I think her adventurous spirit (like, traveling, engaging with culture, backpacking, natural parks, and other similar adventurous things) probably limits her options.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 08:04 PM
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I think that's when you tell them to shove it up their ass, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 07:53 PM
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Telling them wouldn’t make much of a difference, until they see themselves how they come across. That sounds about right. Both my gf's best friends have been single for a while and they have varying levels of self-awareness on it. One of them still lives with family and has some pretty specific criteria she wants that person to meet for lifestyle compatibility, and she is pretty aware that her options are somewhat narrow. The other friend seems to just struggle to connect with people and is work…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 07:38 PM
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Depends on the person? For some people, very high. Others will literally have gutter trash level standards. This sub's standards are fairly low, imo. I've been told my standards are absurdly high a couple times on here and I didn't have much of an issue dating once I got my head out my ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 04:46 PM
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Uhh, what? The people that live in-city, especially those that are middle or higher income, are usually fit and attractive and have active social lives. They also are less likely to be obese than pretty much any other demographic. The only lonely weirdo types in cities would be.... Maybe transplants in tech jobs, but that's hardly the majority. The lonely weirdo archetype is more like lower middle class and working class suburb dwellers that never actually managed to leave their nest area so to …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 10:50 PM
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Trans people are pretty much entirely irrelevant to dating. People will date who they date. Who cares, aside from apparently.... you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 10:00 PM
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The perfect 10 is the type of woman who is there to cannibalize unsuspecting OPs from reddit. I highly recommend that OP go and party there. He'll be welcomed with open arms.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 07:36 PM
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When Obi-Wan drops into PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 07:26 PM
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Katmai National Park and Preserve is great, right at Brooks Falls. Excellent place to find women, very safe. I also recommend North Sentinel Island. That's where they all go to party.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 07:11 PM
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The new cat is a former stray, so I doubt it, but I like her and she's super sweet so it works. The last one was more sentient teddy bear than cat. She didn't even attempt to play.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:56 PM
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Lol, the psychiatric hospital was because the guy who posted probably needs it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:53 PM
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Eh, my last cat was the shit. She basically cuddled your face when you slept. She'd demand that you assume the proper cuddle position and would snuggle up real close. The current cat is cool, but is much more aloof. Very playful though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:23 PM
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lmao wtf kind of troll account is this? If it's not a troll...... go to a psychiatric hospital. The mental illness here is so blatant. Dear lord.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:21 PM
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Coming from the OP that fetishizes 18 year olds almost as much as the US Army.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 02:17 PM
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Honestly I don't get people broadcasting their relationships on social media. Especially as someone who is very private and who has basically zero socially media presence on their own, it just isn't something I've EVER thought of as something that I should do. I guess some people are into that, but that to me is just an area of incompatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 01:38 PM
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Maybe not quite growing up, but Frasier. I've been on a 90s sitcoms kick lately.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 01:26 PM
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Man I can go on and on about how awesome my parents are, lol. I miss them. Maybe I'll call them tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 07:29 AM
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Eh, even in tech, the people who move up to management are still effective communicators and are pretty adept socially, and know how to code-switch super well. For roles that are purely technical, obviously it's a bit different, but if you have ambitions beyond just that technical work, you gotta build those other skillsets out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 10:42 PM
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Frankly, I think a lot of the skills that are required to date are also skills that greatly help in building a career. Being adept socially and knowing how to present yourself in the best possible light are two skills a lot of people absolutely fucking suck at. A career itself matters insofar as you can support yourself and can pay for the shit you want to do, at the very least, but career also can provide you with proximity to social circles that might contain people you date. The idea that inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 10:02 PM
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That's what I've been saying! This big guy needs a hug.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 08:46 PM
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PPD is not ready for this much chonk
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 08:37 PM
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I wonder how much of it is due to the mental associations people make regarding men's fragrances as well. I can totally see it being a location/culture thing as much as anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 07:43 PM
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Because people want what they want? It's not always logical or rational. Frankly, I don't think it particularly matters as long as each person is getting what they want and is happy with their relationship. Getting hung up on what someone did with exes is weird and is damn near worthless without any sort of context anyway imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 07:30 PM
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Eh, frankly I don't really see cologne as too common with the under-30 crowd especially, but deodorant is kinda like, base-level.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 07:16 PM
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I think the real question is..... why are you doing things for a person if they aren't reciprocating and treating you how you want to be treated anyway. I think it would be absolutely insane to hold me today to the standards of my behavior from when I was in high school, lmao. The growth + personal development between 16 and 26 is a lot. What I do think matters is some level of rationality and consistency in values/behaviors, if that makes sense, but usually if those follow some type of logical …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 07:15 PM
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Good luck. May it turn out delicious and moist!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 07:12 PM
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Last thanksgiving I made a frankenturkey (basically just got different parts instead of a full turkey) and dry-brined it. Turned out great.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 07:03 PM
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If there was adequate sex education and better access to contraception I’d like to think that abortion would be a lot less necessary, although I don’t oppose it. Kinda a no-brainer right? Sometimes it's necessary, but its frequency can be reduced by people being educated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 06:31 PM
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That's the thing though. The whole nature of this space is that it will normally attract people who have grievances to air, especially if they are personal or if something struck a nerve. People who don't have that level of negativity in their lives aren't going to care enough to engage because.... What utility does a place like this have for them? Even for me, I found this space forever ago at this point and I can't say it really did anything to me except show me what I didn't want to become. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 07:02 AM
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Heh, it's a bit of an adventure to get to where I did, but.... A good chunk of it is to engage with people and try to understand their experiences, and realize that everyone views themselves as the hero of their own story. That alone gives a lot of context to what people are saying, imo. In addition, I've definitely taken breaks from here when necessary because this environment is very toxic. I do think that if the views/reality that your existence is grounded in are largely positive, this subre…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 06:36 AM
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My notions keep on getting more negative each day I'm here. Is this place mentally good for anyone? I'm significantly more mentally healthy than I was when I found this sub, and I found this place back when it was under 2k subs. But I wouldn't exactly say PPD itself has been good for me, just that I can block out how insane this place is super well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 04:09 AM
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Buddy, I'm saying this with as much kindness as I can, but you are shooting yourself in the dick by doing this. Frankly, college was actually a shockingly positive social environment and it was WAY easier to find "my people" than in high school for example. College is more like adult-world lite than extended high school in a lot of ways, especially socially. Go work on your social skills. You'll thank me later.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:50 PM
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LMAO he's already dead, go easy on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:48 PM
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I wouldn't say being attractive and being able to date easily necessitates being manipulative. Ime, what it seems to require is being personable, charismatic, and fun, which is simple in theory, but not actually as easy to accomplish in practice. But again, this comes down to the social environments you spend time in as well. People who grow up in stable social environments have a better frame of reference for what a stable/non-toxic relationship will look like. Also, frankly, a lot of those sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:47 PM
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Lol, all my friends met their partners during college or knew them before, but ok. A lot of your perception of relationships has to do with the environment you grew up in and what your sense of normalcy is calibrated to. Someone who grows up in healthy environments is going to have a different set of standards and sense or normal than someone who spent all their time around toxic relationships. Solution is to go and challenge your pre-conceived notions, figure out what you need to do to get out …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:27 PM
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Great. This just tells me you've always been in toxic environments and are tuned to see toxic environments and behavior as the norm. Every single one of my friends except for 1-2 are in normal and very not toxic relationships with their relative equals. My girlfriend's friends are a mix of either single or dating people who are also not toxic and who are relatively on their level. Cheating is rare in my circles. Treating partners poorly is just as rare and those relationships that were shitty en…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:18 PM
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I really question people when they say they've never seen normal/functional/chill/non-dramatic relationships before. I see way more of those than the toxic trash fires such as what you outlined and what the OP seems to only see.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:15 PM
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The lack of life experience and the social incompetence on this post are overwhelming. Dear lord.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:08 PM
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Should have just tried to become a radio psychiatrist. A new age Frasier Crane if you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 09:41 PM
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This take makes sense to me. Proximity and visibility are what capture attention, and there's a lot of people out there whose existence just isn't visible by virtue of how they live their life. The types of people that can be described as "good girls" probably spend their weekends at home, crafting or reading. Or going to a play, or at a museum, or going hiking, or like a farmers market or something. What they aren't doing is making it known that they are available and actually like, acting on i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 07:17 PM
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Then why are high school dropouts having twice as many partners and 5 times the sexual frequency? Lots of reasons. Could be that they care more about getting laid and devote more time to it, could be that they are less inhibited socially. Could be whatever else. The most likely explanation is that people who have aspirations other than sex spend time on things that aren't related to sex, and thus, are less likely to allocate time to it/pursue it. Another likely explanation is that people who are…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 07:34 AM
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How dare you suggest such an insane thing /s.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 06:59 AM
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This doesn't prove that it's a CAUSAL relationship. Did college cause them to not be attractive to women? No. Thanks for proving my point. If 60% are going to college without experience, that frankly means that they either don't prioritize sex or they aren't attractive. Maybe both. Education wouldn't make them less attractive on its own. Read your own goddamn study.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 06:58 AM
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That's because some Chads get educated too, a whole 5%. Source? As I said, prove to me it's causal. Don't move the fucking goalposts when you make claims that are obviously out of touch with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 06:42 AM
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But the price is fewer sex partners and lower sex frequency. Prove to me that it's a causal relationship. Quite frankly, I've seen nothing that shows that being educated specifically CAUSES a less fulfilling sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 06:15 AM
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Both! But I found this sub like.... fucking 7-8 years ago, so I'm a bit of an anomaly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 05:58 AM
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Agreed. Men who built things and created a fulfilling life for themselves were never out chasing pussy. They were too busy for that. There’s nothing fulfilling about chasing women. It’s feeling that’s fleeting. I agree with this with the added caveat that I do think that building relationships CAN be rewarding with the right person. But building a relationship is also fundamentally rewarding in a different way since that includes like..... actually creating something with someone else, nurturing…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 05:52 AM
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I'd largely agree with these things. If you want to expand the topic a bit now.... what types of jobs are people doing nowadays in somewhere like the US if they don't have a college degree. It's really just grunt work, food, transportation, and skilled trades. You CAN make good money at least in the trades, but at the same time, those jobs do take a toll on your body. The rest have VERY limited earning potential and you'd need to upskill later to get anywhere lucrative. That isn't to say these j…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 05:48 AM
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Considering the article, I'd guess that people who actually study and/or work have less free time for having sex or looking for partners. They prioritize their financial success and maybe future marriage/LTRs over the frequency of sex. To add to this, some things to consider here. Median college grad in the US has a net worth north of 300k. Median HS grad has a net worth of 74k. And that's just the median individuals. If you have any sort of talent, college and education are such massive multipl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 05:39 AM
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Oh lord that is horrifying. But the Miami Heat Miami Vice jerseys were kinda amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 05:28 AM
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Seconded. Also, I like maintaining the social status and class I was born with. When the choice is being framed as being gutter trash who doesn't participate in society, or living like the people whose life you grew up aspiring to be..... there's absolutely no way I'm taking the former. Being an ambitionless loser is something that's actually viscerally disgusting to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 05:27 AM
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At least for dudes, any outfit that's too baggy ALWAYS looks horrible. There's also some color/style combinations I hate, but that's getting kinda specific. In general, any outfit that goes for flashy, because usually it just looks tacky.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:06 PM
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Jesus, they are fucking wacky.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:02 PM
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Uhh, what? No. What people hate about TRP and the manosphere at large is that the community is basically the internet equivalent of a Superfund site. That LGBT comparison is terrible too. For the longest time, LGBT people couldn't even make their preferences known due to the fear of violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:30 PM
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I'll clarify on Q3 for you, but I meant it in both a general sense and wrt dating. Something that might be interesting is the topic of office gossip for example. But anyway, all of this tracks with my experience as someone that also works in tech. My girlfriend and I have an understanding that we'll never work within the same org (she is an HR director for an org in the same industry as me, and they often hire people with my skillset) for a variety of reasons, precisely because of the effects it…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 10:29 PM
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Might be worth a shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 09:45 PM
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Sad, I wanted to debate organization culture and how it relates to gender :( Those damn low-effort OPs
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 09:42 PM
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You know what this sounds like? Shitty organizational culture. This is not something that happens at companies that have a healthier culture. This isn't a woman thing. This is a crappy org thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 09:32 PM
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So what you're saying is...... some workers (PickMes) are scabs and do things against the best interests of labor (women as a collective) because it may personally benefit them, thus perpetuating the cycle and undermining class solidarity? PPD going full union, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 06:04 PM
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It really isn't. But ok. That's like saying subtext doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:28 PM
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Trying to teach PPD nuance is like trying to teach a bear that they should be friendly to humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:12 PM
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That PPD in general struggles to grasp nuance lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 08:10 PM
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When PPD gets this far worse than actual people on the autism spectrum, you know this place is a fucking trash fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 07:52 PM
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Next step, just get an NBA team here, and.... well, I am moving soon, but it would have been fun to walk to an NBA game at the Krakhouse (because xyz is a terrible name).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 06:43 PM
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success is self-defined, largely. Success for me is maintaining a happy/healthy/stable LTR with a partner whom I like as a person. For others, they probably have a different metric they follow. A good example of my thought process is that everyone will have negatives that they bring to the table that will always make it more challenging to accomplish their goals. That's just how life is. Using myself as an example, me being on the autism spectrum, and also being somewhat of a social hermit (thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:25 PM
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That's fair. I always liked NBA games growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:22 PM
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Tbf, stadium food and the stadium experience can be fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:15 PM
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Lmao there's a reason I dropped this under automod. I was being just about the furthest thing from serious, but that's roughly a sentiment I've seen on this sub a whole lot over the years. I largely agree with your OP, but another additional perspective is that just because people are attracted to someone, it doesn't validate everything they are doing as instrumental to their success.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:14 PM
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I see you too have been traumatized by the Mariners to the point of forsaking baseball.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:02 PM
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Ted Bundy was considered attractive. Therefore I should become a serial killer to be attractive to women, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:00 PM
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Yea, this is more of a "high-profile people have groupies" situation than anything. Then again, sane people generally aren't groupies for people in prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:38 PM
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LMAO right? Even Ted Bundy has people who were attracted to him and he was a serial rapist/murderer. It's almost like people who are specifically attracted to terrible people also have issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:34 PM
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Yea, you being 19 completely changes the meanings lmao. I can't really speak to the lower middle/working class experience but from what I have seen it is very very different than UMC+ world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 04:45 PM
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Sounds like the issue is.... The person you dated not perceiving you as the whole package then. If that's the case, fine, but then it's incumbent on you to go find someone that desires you. Some women are assholes, it happens. Also think it's actually dead-easy to find people who haven't really had casual relationships though. They are just not found in the same places that those who are likely to have had casual relationships are found.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 04:35 PM
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Mid-20s. Usually the BF material types ARE the husband/marriage material types ime. Quite frankly, I also think social class plays a huge factor here. I don't even seem UMC+ people using the term "fuckboy" much if at all. UMC+ educated demographics are more likely to marry and have stable marriages which would imply some different context there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 04:31 PM
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I've literally only seen it used to describe people who are the full package. A boring mediocre dude is just meh. Meh isn't the type of person someone actually WANTS.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 04:17 PM
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I think this sub's framing of "marriage material" as boring/not attractive but stable is fucking dumb honestly. The only way that term will ever make sense to me is if it describes someone who is the full package and has it all. Mediocre dudes are not going to be described in that way from what I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 04:06 PM
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In that case it just seems like who is saying the phrase matters. There's enough variation in types of relationships that I don't think it should be taken as a blanket insult though. Context matters, and quite frankly, the only context I ever really have seen it used is to describe people who are the full package. If there are situations where that isn't the case, fine, but that isn't in line with what I witnessed. If someone is just mediocre, I wouldn't even say the descriptor of husband materi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 03:40 PM
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I think PPDs framing of what "husband material" is is entirely out of touch quite frankly. I'd say the only way it makes sense is if the framing is "this person is attractive AND a great long term partner". I don't think "husband material" being framed as stable but unattractive makes much sense. Someone who is stable but not actually attractive is just a normal mediocre dude, and normal mediocre dudes have mediocre lives. Then again, this sub also gets all its cues from people who are quite fra…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 03:03 PM
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My family isn't big on gifts and I live 1200 miles away from them so... Not really but I usually try to do something nice for my parents when they visit or I go back to see them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 02:25 PM
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That being said, many do. So..... you're essentially asking why some women are hypocrites then? Because women are humans and humans are hypocrites sometimes. Feel like that is bloody obvious. Not really sure why you are fixating on people like that. Sounds like you are overthinking EVERYTHING. It's also entirely impossible to know with certainty what someone's motivations are, so hand-wringing about is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:05 PM
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lmao, what about the people that never had casual sex, or have no interest in casual relationships? Kinda seems like a gigantic blind-spot here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:58 PM
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Pretty much. Also, I highly doubt I will change my flair for a while. I feel like the giant panda encapsulates my vibe pretty well, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 08:15 AM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:54 AM
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Eh, I'm pretty sure that post is a LARP anyways. Those subs get absolutely inundated with that type of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 12:50 AM
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Yeah I don’t know where people get the idea humans don’t like to feel good and be happy. Probably TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 12:44 AM
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If his approach was better, he probably would do better than he has at this point. It's not necessarily that his approach is TERRIBLE per se (in that on a balance, maybe there are positive traits, or..... the OP just has the self awareness of a brick and his approach is shit), just that he probably is shooting himself in the dick unnecessarily, even if it technically is "working". Point being, someone can succeed even if they shoot themselves in the dick. Them succeeding doesn't validate all of …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 12:26 AM
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Or..... this person is able to date in spite of the course of action they are taking. That would hardly be surprising. Plenty of people date in spite of their flawed character/behavior/outlook on life. Just because someone is able to date/have relationships, it doesn't mean that everything they are doing is the proper course of action. Good example is someone like Ted Bundy, actually. He seemingly had people interested in him AFTER being a serial killer, but being a serial killer probably really…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 12:20 AM
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Something something vertical put spreads?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 02:58 PM
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Personally, I view people who are derivative as options.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 02:54 PM
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Maybe, maybe not. It also can be a general descriptor that is accurate in some form or another. E.g. I easily could be husband material (like, in the positive context above) to my partner, but not necessarily be seen that way by her friends. Language and context are fun like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 09:45 PM
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My girlfriend's friends are mostly single and none of them have really used the term outside of the context I highlighted. Think a lot of it is also just huge variation in experiences/the types of people that someone is surrounded by
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 08:55 PM
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It’s only a compliment when a woman you are dating and who wants to marry you, and you her, calls you husband material. Honestly, this is the only context I've ever actually seen it used as far as real life interactions go.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 08:33 PM
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LMAO right? Part of being in an actual functioning and healthy relationship is transparency of your intentions. If you can't do that, you quite simply are terrible relationship material.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 07:47 PM
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I agree with this somewhat in that someone can absolutely be physically/viscerally attractive, and ALSO attractive as a prospect for a long-term committed relationship. I always thought it was absurd for someone to take it as an insult by default. Being attractive as an LTR prospect doesn't preclude you from being attractive in a more general sense. Of course, this sub fails to understand this consistently.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 07:26 PM
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Pretty much. This thread is an absolute garbage fire. People who are commitment-phobic aren't going to like it. People who want committed relationships will pair off when they meet the right person and never really look back.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 02:53 PM
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My girlfriend literally tried to set up my best friend with her best friend. It's not super common, but it's hardly unheard of. Meeting through friends is a very common way for relationships to begin.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 09:12 PM
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