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Lifestyleautodidacticasaurus/r/seduction13/04/26 11:35 PM
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Field Reportautodidacticasaurus/r/seduction12/09/25 07:42 PM
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Conversationautodidacticasaurus/r/seduction20/09/25 06:29 AM
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Field Reportautodidacticasaurus/r/seduction23/05/26 12:48 AM
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Resourcesautodidacticasaurus/r/seduction15/10/25 04:27 PM
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Escalation & Calibrationautodidacticasaurus/r/seduction30/04/26 10:24 PM
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Field Reportautodidacticasaurus/r/seduction01/06/26 03:36 PM
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Inner Game autodidacticasaurus/r/seduction01/03/26 01:39 PM
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Fundamentals autodidacticasaurus/r/seduction23/08/25 04:49 PM
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Resourcesautodidacticasaurus/r/seduction15/01/26 06:20 PM
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Inner Game autodidacticasaurus/r/seduction14/04/26 08:04 PM
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Outer Game autodidacticasaurus/r/seduction13/04/26 11:08 PM
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Inner Game autodidacticasaurus/r/seduction27/11/25 01:36 PM
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Escalation & Calibrationautodidacticasaurus/r/seduction22/04/26 09:33 PM
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Outer Game autodidacticasaurus/r/seduction08/05/26 03:52 PM
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Inner Game autodidacticasaurus/r/seduction23/12/25 08:27 PM
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Outer Game autodidacticasaurus/r/seduction14/07/26 04:42 PM
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Field Reportautodidacticasaurus/r/seduction28/08/25 03:43 PM
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but that’s not the goal at all. wdym?
/r/seduction27/07/26 03:05 AM
2

Read romance novels too.
/r/seduction26/07/26 10:17 AM
15

That one actually pisses me off because it shows a complete lack of empathy and no appreciation at all for what men do for them. It's actually a red flag if you think about it. They're not caoable of actually valuing you. The shitty thing is this doesn't just apply to attractive women but just a lot of women.
/r/seduction26/07/26 10:15 AM
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You didn't mention how he is socially or how he was raised. Does he make friends easily too?
/r/seduction26/07/26 09:52 AM
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You did good. She already gave you the answer. Do not reslokd now. Leave it like that, possibly for months if that'svagat it takes. She may text you again at some point. You may never hear from her again. The point is that the next move is on her and there may be no kext move.
/r/seduction22/07/26 07:51 AM
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In person I would say it's changed less but definitely not as much. Online is just so much conflict and hatred in general. Look at the misogyny in our own forum here fir example... Women are just as bad in their own ways.
/r/seduction20/07/26 04:42 PM
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I would say both are harder. People are more flakey, more sensitive to minor issues snd just more "ADHD" and less respectful in general. I think everyone used to be a lot mor respectful and that has a lot of consequences.
/r/seduction20/07/26 08:59 AM
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Counterpoint: I've been dating even longer than you and I see a huge difference. Online dating used to be super easy. It's become basically impossible, so I've switched to cold approach.
/r/seduction19/07/26 10:26 PM
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Link to the original post?
/r/seduction18/07/26 05:24 PM
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Just be around them more. Eventually you'll stop being nervous. It's called progressive desensitization.
/r/seduction16/07/26 10:09 AM
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Study and practice a oot, loke any skill.
/r/seduction15/07/26 06:30 PM
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1/30 sounds alright to me.
/r/seduction15/07/26 05:11 PM
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240 That's around 108kg. Yeah, it shouldn't be an issue. Losing weight will improve things but you should for sure be able to pull. Don't use it as an excuse. Work on both at the same time.
/r/seduction14/07/26 04:14 PM
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Can you speak more about that last line?
/r/seduction14/07/26 01:16 PM
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What was it about?
/r/seduction11/07/26 06:29 PM
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Yup and it's up to date too, so you know if it's early or late. On the bus, there is also a second screen that tells you all of the xonnecting busses at the bus stop you're about to arrive at and when they depart. There's also an app that plans journeys for you but I guess most of the world has that.
/r/seduction10/07/26 06:46 AM
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The bus stops here have electronic signs that say when and where the busses are going. 😂 Fucking Sweden, designed to make sure people don't talk to each other.
/r/seduction09/07/26 05:40 PM
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I like it. Better for night game though.
/r/seduction09/07/26 05:04 PM
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Yeah, those are situational or contextual openers and then there's observational openers. I'm talking about when you don't have any ammo. The girl has nothing in her hands and is just wearing jeans and a black top. We're waiting at the bus stop. Now what?
/r/seduction09/07/26 05:03 PM
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Yeah, I most likely will, I'm just curious what other people do. Looking for fresh ideas and reminders of old stuff.
/r/seduction09/07/26 12:45 PM
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Don't be an asshole.
/r/seduction09/07/26 12:02 PM
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Then what? 😁
/r/seduction09/07/26 11:48 AM
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You say "Hey, excuse me, blah blah". They will look up from their phone. Girls bored on their phones are the most likely to be receptive to conversation (I mean other than the ones eyefucking you, obviously).
/r/seduction09/07/26 11:11 AM
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Of course there is, if there's no intention to actually date people, you won't stick with one if you find a good one. If you're just trying to sleep around, you'll fuck them and move on.
/r/seduction08/07/26 03:53 PM
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The intention is the difference. If you only want to get laid, then it's not dating, it's just sleeping around.
/r/seduction07/07/26 10:40 PM
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I'll bring drinks or some dessert or something sometimes. You can also just ask her if she wants you to bring anything.
/r/seduction07/07/26 09:36 PM
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Stop trying to get laid and date for keeps instead.
/r/seduction07/07/26 08:47 PM
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That doesn't explain how this extends to the apps.
/r/seduction07/07/26 12:52 PM
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Yeah, this happens to me too. Hmm.
/r/seduction07/07/26 04:37 AM
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Thank you. That was actually really helpful and the first time I actually understood. I'm glad I asked.
/r/seduction06/07/26 11:52 PM
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No, this isn't the whole story. If you live in a town of 5000 people and you've approached every girl, you're now known as that guy. Even if new girls come to town, they will be warned about you and your chances are now zero.
/r/seduction06/07/26 11:44 PM
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Robert A. Glover
/r/seduction06/07/26 04:33 PM
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This doesn't answer my question.
/r/seduction06/07/26 04:29 PM
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🙄 Not very practical advice then. It's just a result of success. It's likes saying "be successful".
/r/seduction06/07/26 04:13 PM
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Sounds like that book No More Mr. Nice Guy.
/r/seduction06/07/26 04:10 PM
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And how do you get that without abundance?
/r/seduction06/07/26 04:10 PM
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Ignore them and move on with your life.
/r/seduction05/07/26 09:53 AM
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After two venue changes the odds of an awkward confrontation are basically 100%. I think this is in your head. Real life is different. Even if it does happen, it's going to be very rare.
/r/seduction04/07/26 11:54 PM
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This is 100% of the problem. Men approach women, not the other way around, except in rare cases.
/r/seduction03/07/26 12:11 AM
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Always appreciate your input, hunter. Pro-tip to OP: literally relax your body. It's not a metaphor.
/r/seduction02/07/26 07:39 PM
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Fuck that. You're outa ya goddamned mind. I'd thank her and praise her for her bravery and honesty.
/r/seduction29/06/26 06:14 PM
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Yep. He's got the hardest part done.
/r/seduction29/06/26 04:30 PM
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I think that would also help.
/r/seduction29/06/26 04:26 PM
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Wow man, that's amazing. Props on so much volume. You've got balls. Have you watched RSD Foundations and RSD Blueprint? They might help a little. I think you're the rare case of doing too much and not studying enough. I know you said you studied, but I think you should study a different way. You should be watching a shitton of infield, romcoms, romantic dramas, reading romance novels and all kinds of shit like that. Drop the theoretical content. You need to see other people doing it more than yo…
/r/seduction29/06/26 03:57 PM
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Yes, listen to this person. Ignore the others.
/r/seduction28/06/26 06:38 PM
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This is horrible advice for men that only a woman could give. OPs entire post is about how exactly that did not work for him. This only works if you're a womsn because it's men who approach women, take initiative and do all the work in courtship while women are virtually passive. I'm stil shocked by the complete lack of insight and empathy every time I read crap like this. You're harming men. Stop
/r/seduction27/06/26 11:12 AM
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Not in CPH but would love to read a field report afterwards. I always do. It's a cool city, probably very difficult to do daygame though. Nightgame is king emperor and pope there Hmm, interesting. I kinda wonder if I have unique advantages here. Maybe not, but we'll see.
/r/seduction27/06/26 01:48 AM
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Awesome. Done.
/r/seduction27/06/26 01:47 AM
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A friend of mine is doing fine living at home, late 20s. It's in your head, man. Just go for it. The more success you get, the more your insecurity will minimize.
/r/seduction26/06/26 01:10 AM
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What does that have to do with the question?
/r/seduction25/06/26 09:41 PM
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I wish your comment was at the top. This is just weird behavior to be fucking anyone you're not into... also it's hurtful to those girls. They deserve better.
/r/seduction25/06/26 07:26 PM
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Oh my god, you people are in denial. If a rotten potato dated Megan Fox you still wouldn'y change your fucking minds.
/r/seduction24/06/26 12:06 AM
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The first parts are good but there's no reason for you to be asking their name until you connect with them. This is why they were like WTF. Think it through a bit more.
/r/seduction23/06/26 03:08 PM
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So, first of all, you got very good results, better than average, so good job. That's actually kinda insane. Good job for even doing it though. Stop asking their name before you know them better. You have no reason to know her name unless you have a solid connection. Also, you're not a totally different person. It wears off with time. The effect is temporary and you have to keep approaching in order to keep it. Annoying but true, even ask the guys on here who've done thousands of approaches. It …
/r/seduction23/06/26 01:56 PM
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Good job. How old are you?
/r/seduction21/06/26 12:54 PM
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Bro the cop was chill. Relax.
/r/seduction20/06/26 10:12 PM
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Sounds like you have the right attitude. You didn't do anything wrong. She's got a problem. I've had two that I remember like that. One where a young girl (immature I guess) yelled at me. That was in my early days and even then I knew I didn't do anything wrong. What I actually did was compliment her friend on her top as I was passing. That's it, the whole offense, my friends. 😁 Another one actually followed me through 3 villages (15 minutes) in her car, slowly stalked me as I walked home and th…
/r/seduction20/06/26 10:10 PM
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You worry way too much... Real life is different.
/r/seduction18/06/26 01:31 PM
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Yeah, this is what my friend made me do at the mall and after a few of these I just stopped caring. They don't care.
/r/seduction17/06/26 01:20 PM
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lol I'm loving your rhymes. Saving your post.
/r/seduction15/06/26 05:56 AM
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There was interest in all of these cases, it was just not explored or shown openly. These are the maybe girls Manson is talking about. Nope. This is just you not listening to women in order to prop up your own theory and see things the way you want to.
/r/seduction14/06/26 04:10 AM
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Nobody can 'seduce' any random girl they want if that girl isn't attracted to then. Turns out this isn't true. Plenty of women end up with men they had no interest in at all at first. My friend is a perfect example with her now husband. Of course you won't be able to solve those issues in cold approach, but it does happen in social circle, online and other settings quite regularly. "game is played on the yes girls" as Mark Manson says. This isn't what Manson says. He says the "maybe girls"
/r/seduction14/06/26 02:32 AM
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Because it's fun for them. I've had several girls agree, even ones who are not that into girls. They just like adventures and pleasing an attractive man sometimes, just having fun playing around, an experience they can say they have had. A lot of other ones are just simply bisexual, so the answer there should not be surprising.
/r/seduction13/06/26 11:48 AM
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Cool, watch 70 more.
/r/seduction12/06/26 11:57 PM
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Two things I'd recommend. One is check out Playing with Fire's YouTube channel. He has a lot of shit on texting. So does "The Single Guy". Other than that, what you need to do is practice. Practice with hundreds or thousands of woman. Do it like it's your job. Use apps where you can directly write to girls (like OKCupid) or use apps where you can set your location to countries where you'll be way more popular. Don't lead people on though, if they ask let them know how (un)serious you are. Women …
/r/seduction12/06/26 11:45 PM
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Some things are not simple.
/r/seduction12/06/26 01:13 PM
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Good answer. I endorse this.
/r/seduction12/06/26 11:00 AM
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Simple doesn't mean easy.
/r/seduction12/06/26 06:56 AM
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I don't think you're right on this one. What I see in what OP's girl is presenting an opportunity for banter and creating a lot of sexual tension. I think you might not know what you're talking about on this issue since you aren't actually the cocky guy. Women are often on the look-out for guys with overly cocky attitudes, as a red flag for him being a douchebag. This is also completely wrong. There are a lot of women who seek this out specifically.
/r/seduction11/06/26 12:12 PM
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That's an option, but it's not the only option. You can also just fake it until you make it and THEN own your personality at that later stage. That means losing a lot of women in the process though. Like OP's saying though, it's a skill you can develop. How do you think it became a "natural" part of those people's personality? They played around with it until it was (in their case since they were kids, but there's no reason you can't start now). Anyway, I just point this out because that's what …
/r/seduction11/06/26 12:09 PM
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Drowning in options isn't a mentality or theory, it's a situation you're either in or not. You either have abundance or you don't. Believing you do when you don't is just delusional. Manson was talking about filtering for interest but doing it actively. What OP is talking about is more advanced because he's doing part of it passively, offloading the filtering to the women themselves, which is great.
/r/seduction10/06/26 08:36 PM
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I totally get the mentality though. It's like Manson's Models but even more advanced, filtering for interest. I think this is my style. I tended to over-invest before and am recovering from that now.
/r/seduction10/06/26 04:15 PM
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This is what I'll do eventually. Taking numbers is my current comfort zone though. Need a while longer with that.
/r/seduction10/06/26 03:44 PM
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But start from kindness Listen to this person. ☝️
/r/seduction08/06/26 01:59 PM
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You gotta realize that women wont feel sad for you and can leave you in a heartbeat if a man they like more than you appears. I don't know about your experience, but that's extremely rare for me. The only two times a woman that I've been involved with has left me like that is one when I was younger left me for a dude with a brick of coke... the other one was someone I basically neglected her. That one cheated on me, go figure. Most women in my life have been extremely caring and loyal and it's b…
/r/seduction08/06/26 01:57 PM
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try giving more attention to other women when you are with her This is manipulative and mean. mention about any other woman and how she is amazing in something This is also manipulative but is going to come off as insecure unless you know how to pull it off. A better way to leverage this fact is to just have other things going on with other women in your life, a good history with women and to let it come up naturally. She will sense it if it's true. When you try to push these things in her face …
/r/seduction08/06/26 01:34 PM
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She doesn’t have to reach out to men. When they are older they just don’t care. This isn't my experience at all. Older women tend to be even pickier and have much better self-control.
/r/seduction08/06/26 01:56 AM
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I can't remember many dates that haven't come to my place for the first date since I was a kid and I'm pretty old. I think there was one recently because she literally couldn't leave her home for logistical reasons. Some others I guess because we already lived together or it was just convenient. I think your approach here is a bit wrong. You're looking for strategies and tactics, like what to say. It's not about that. It's about first of all being a cool and safe guy for real and then genuinely …
/r/seduction07/06/26 09:56 PM
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women have to initiate the transition from seduction to serious relatuinship I don't really think this is true though. A lot of guys, including myself, would like a relationship and we're not approaching girls who we wouldn't potentially want one, so if we're still talking to them by that point then it's already a done deal.
/r/seduction07/06/26 09:39 PM
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Well, I'll be interested to see if there any good answers this time. This isn't the first time this question has come up and I've never been totally satisfied with the answers, but I'll add the pieces of the puzzle that I have. I would say that in courtship the woman is taking on far more risk than the man. Sure, a guy can risk rejection or maybe his reputation a bit, but a woman risks everything. She risks her life, both in the short-term and in the long-term. Many men are dangerous and much st…
/r/seduction07/06/26 09:29 PM
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I don't know if I'd recommend this strategy for everyone, especially considering cultural differences. I'm good looking and confident and so far been approached with serious intent (outside of social circle) twice in my life. That probably has to do with the last paragraph you mentioned. I wasn't expressing and being honest about my interest in the way you mean for most of that time, but i have in the last two years and still zero approaches from women. That said, I have had women put themselves…
/r/seduction07/06/26 09:14 PM
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Just go talk to girls you're interested in and stop overthinking it. Don't bother any that are clearly busy, in a rush or stressed out. Other than that, as long as you take no for an answer and move on when you're uninvited, you're good.
/r/seduction07/06/26 11:49 AM
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You didn't do anything wrong. You handled it perfectly. Sometimes people just aren't compatible or in the right frame of mind. I think you could have improved a little by being more playful about the age. Maybe make her guess and when she says you're too old then tell her yeah if you dated she'd probably have to visit your in the nursing home anyway. It probably wouldn't help because I think she has a hard limit there, but being less serious about it can sometimes increase your chances and turn …
/r/seduction07/06/26 09:43 AM
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I think you mean munches*.
/r/seduction05/06/26 04:01 PM
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I think the easiest way is to find a friends with benefits that is interested in finding a third girl, then the two of you approach other girls at bars. I've got a few different fwbs that are interested in this and this is what I'm going to try with them but haven't yet. They're open to it though. Just be honest with everyone involved.
/r/seduction05/06/26 04:01 PM
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You don't need to leave the country, just go to the nearest big city. I travel a lot though just for the purpose of talking to girls and hanging out with my friends. This month I've gone to three big European cities just for daygame actually. Yeah, it's fun. You can get a lot done too if it's a densely populated area and you know where to go. I probably did over a hundred approaches just this last month alone. It helps when you come home too, but the problem for me is that it seems to wear off b…
/r/seduction05/06/26 02:18 PM
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That's one way you can go, but you'd certainly increase your odds with studying and volume.
/r/seduction05/06/26 11:59 AM
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Yeah, why not? I do all the time. This is an odd question to me. I did this a few times just the last two days... I remember this morning a girl was giving me very boring answers and nothing to work with, so I was just like "Alright, have a nice day" and walked off. Why not? It was a boring conversation. Another one in the bar started rambling on about Icelandic laws and other shit I didn't care about and honestly I just went back to my beer. I don't think she cared.
/r/seduction05/06/26 12:35 AM
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Yes. Go read Bukowski. He did both VERY hard.
/r/seduction05/06/26 12:32 AM
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It's not just a numbers game. You can also improve yourself and improve your odds. This will happen with volume though: you'll get desensitized and more comfortable with hotter women and you'll also get better skills with practice. You're wasting your time and energy if you're not also improving. Also, I haven't got dating apps to work in the last few years. Daygame, on the other hand, has gotten me 6 numbers and a date in the last week. More than Tinder has given me in the last year.
/r/seduction05/06/26 12:02 AM
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Yeah, that's usually what I do anda lot of warm-ups and throw-aways before that just to get in a social mode. You say "getting over" - have you gotten over it? For me I can get over it completely for a few days but it tends to come back.
/r/seduction04/06/26 08:10 PM
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It's not just a nunbers game. There's a lot more to it. You need to be calm and confident, you to know how to have a conversation, you need social skills, you need to know how to escalate, text, etc. There's a lot you can improve. Approaching more will definitely help you with that and the more volume you do, the faster you will improve but numbers alone won't save you.
/r/seduction04/06/26 06:57 PM
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Hmm, yeah. This was I guess a border case, a bit of both. Didn't go there for girls but would have had to cross the whole room...
/r/seduction03/06/26 08:23 AM
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This is very good. Nice job recovering that.
/r/seduction03/06/26 03:55 AM
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As for venue, what's your opinion on mall cafe's? I just came back to my population 50k Swedish city after being in Oslo where I did like 50 approaches but I still felt uncomfortable talking to a girl who clearly would have been receptive just because of the other people around. It felt like everyone else would think it's wrong. Maybe that's just in my head though? Also, I don't understand why I feel fine doing it on the train and city bus (where I've actually gotten numbers) but not on the regi…
/r/seduction03/06/26 03:53 AM
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Todd V had a video series called "Day Game by Todd Valentine". You can still find it on pirate sites. He has newer ones too but I don't know anything about them.
/r/seduction03/06/26 03:14 AM
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The question though is how many women are actually well-adjisted vs. how many are assholes? If most are assholes (and I'm not saying they are) then this would be bad advice. I don't think the problem is vulnerability though. Vulnerability is something we should embrace and lean into. It leads to a lot more success. Weakness on the other hand, that may be an actual thing: that we men are actually not allowed to show weakness. I agree with the rest of what you said though. OPs main problem is inse…
/r/seduction02/06/26 12:20 AM
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This reply is great. Listen to this man, OP. Secure communication, not bullshit. Embrace yourself.
/r/seduction02/06/26 12:10 AM
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This is terrible advice because there's no way OP could pull that off without tons of practice, plus it would destroy their friendship. Not being insecure is actually the answer. Talking to the friend would help too and if the fruend can't respect your boundaries then cutting him out.
/r/seduction02/06/26 12:09 AM
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Thank you. I recommend it to everyone... a little bit at a time.
/r/seduction01/06/26 09:10 PM
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He didn't care what other people thought about him. He wasn't afraid fo be himself. He was also talented and famous for that talent. There's also the money thing which will be a factor for some girls.
/r/seduction01/06/26 02:16 PM
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So, last night I did only that at a bar, 16 approaches front loaded with compliments and 8 of them turned into fun flirty conversations. I got 3 numbersand two kiss closes, one of whom I walked home. I do a lot more thsn that though after the compliment open, lots of cold reading and teasing.
/r/seduction31/05/26 10:28 AM
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Bro. I am so impressed. Wow.
/r/seduction29/05/26 03:27 PM
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Warm-up. That's what did it for me. Talk to all the shopkerpers, ask the time, ask for directions, give genuine compliments in passing THEN approach.
/r/seduction29/05/26 03:20 PM
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I litetally get thanked all the time, even on rejections. Many comment on how it was brave or how I made their day. Very very very few girls have ever been mean and only two were kinda crazy.
/r/seduction29/05/26 03:19 PM
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Speak to a doctor.
/r/seduction27/05/26 07:27 AM
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I'm not good enough to say whether it's worth it yet but I've gotten some results. I'll tell you what though, if you start doing daygame, that shit'll make you into a man. 😂 It's hard as fuck and the person you need to become in order to be good at it (which I am not yet) is going to give you all kinds of other advantages in life that you won't realize until later. Also, it makes night game wayyyyyy easier in comparison.
/r/seduction26/05/26 08:21 PM
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Good question.
/r/seduction26/05/26 02:20 PM
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Link to said study?
/r/seduction26/05/26 02:18 PM
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Smart. Someone here with an actual answer.
/r/seduction26/05/26 02:18 PM
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No, it's definitely not. It identifies a specific phenomenon that needs to be referenced in the literature.
/r/seduction25/05/26 09:40 AM
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Link?
/r/seduction24/05/26 08:23 PM
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Yeah, what helps is years of working hard on yourself and then doing shittons of approaches. It wasn't easy.
/r/seduction24/05/26 05:09 PM
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No, this is a real thing, a symptom of certain psychiatric illnesses. It means that instead of rejection feeling bad, it feels absolutely catastrophic, literally dysphoric in the clinical sense.
/r/seduction24/05/26 05:06 PM
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I had that too (diagnosed) but read my other comment on this thread. You can power through it and get better.
/r/seduction24/05/26 05:06 PM
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It does... What do you mean "no matter how much"? How much did you do? A few weeks ago I went to a big city and did 30 approaches in two days, mostly very hot girls. Coming back to my own town, I had no fear for days. None. It did gradually come back over weeks because I wasn't able to keep up the volume and frequency, but I know I can get rid of it again as soon as I start working on it again. Going to another big city next week to do just that. Even now, I feel like it's less. Like there was t…
/r/seduction24/05/26 08:38 AM
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Actually, you got me curious. I wonder what it would take to increase the odds that the girl actually starts the conversation. Like I've saud before, sometimes girls will make it very obvious they want to talk to me or even block my path forcing me to talk to them but it's been a lokg time since one actually opened their mouth first.
/r/seduction24/05/26 06:57 AM
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"You're attractive and I'm interested in getting to know you to see if we'd be a good match" This also just sounds like what a mature well-adjusted person would think in the first place. I think you can add to that frame though in order to improve it for the purpose that u/Vibejuice-official wanted to use it for though (pumping his own ego): "You're attractive, I'm attractive and I'm interested in getting to know you to see if we'd be a good match" I've said something like this before (in a half…
/r/seduction23/05/26 01:41 AM
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Even though attraction differs from person to person? Yes. You and your friend are matching with different segments of the 4.5%. If that's the case too, then doesn't it more or less put women on equal standing as those few men? Equal demand? No, not even close, why would it? Equal demand would mean men getting a match for every 10 women they swipe on like women get. The average man is literally 900 times less in demand than the average woman. What you're saying agrees perfectly with the data.
/r/seduction23/05/26 01:33 AM
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I'll share a few from this week. My wing-girl telling me she wants to sabotage me. 😂 That's a good one. My other friend had a girl offer him a ride home from their dance class, he asked which direction she's going in and she says "Any." 😂 A couple from last summer: Another I had was this girl was walking her dog in the park, clearly going from one side to the other in a straight line. I make eye contact with her and smile though. She actually turns, goes around the fountain in between us, and si…
/r/seduction23/05/26 01:29 AM
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So if women writing men is so rare, why do I not get responses most of the time? Actually, there is a well known reason for this. It's because almost all women are competing for very small set of men. It's actually worse than the 80/20 rule. 60% of all women on Tinder are swiping on only 4.5% of the men. Meanwhile the average man is getting swipes from about 9 in 1000 women while women are getting matches from 1 out of 10 men they swipe on. This is a difference of a factor of 100. The specific d…
/r/seduction23/05/26 01:19 AM
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Impressive insight. The good news is it's a skill, so just study and practice.
/r/seduction22/05/26 04:59 PM
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This kind of behavior is so disgusting. You demand empathy but you refuse it to others, only to respond with disrespect when prompted.
/r/seduction21/05/26 02:48 AM
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You get what you give That's what I'm saying. Guys don't get what they give. They give out a million specific creative and unique compliments which takes hours of their lives and energy and get very little back, a slight edge over the guys who just say "hello beautiful." What i dont get is how this falls on women? Because they don't accept just "hey" (a totally normal way to start a conversation) as an answer or take on any of this burden. It's placed entirely on the men. I dont understand why i…
/r/seduction21/05/26 02:38 AM
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Right, but you are one of very many. Most girls don't have anything easy to riff off in the profiles and they have to go through hundreds or thousands of them to get any response at all, so you can understand why they do that, right? It's a bit of an investment to even bother reading the profiles when 93% won't even respond regardless of what they do. I have a lot of time on my hands, I got good at it because I'm obsessed with it, but you can see why it's not really realistic to expect everyone …
/r/seduction21/05/26 12:50 AM
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Nope, even this isn't true. "Hey I thought you were you're cute, I just wanted to come say hi" works just fine. It really depends on your delivery and vibe. Of course, you should be creative and specific if you can because that's far better but it's definitely not necessary.
/r/seduction21/05/26 12:00 AM
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That's not really a compliment about you is it though? The compliment I'd give you if I matched you would be something I liked about you or the text you wrote if you wrote anything and if you didn't then it'd be something you at least have control over like style, since the fact we're matching already says I think you're gorgeous so it's redundant. On the other hand, I don't think you're being entirely fair to those other guys. You have to realize that they're probably going to have to write to …
/r/seduction20/05/26 11:57 PM
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Nah, this is wrong. You just need to know what you're doing. You need to have the right vibe. Deliver the compliment man-to-woman, in a way that implies "I want to fuck you." Trust me. "Hey, excuse me, you look incredible tonight" with a smile and looking into her eyes. She melted. Calm, confident smooth. "Damn." <- this worked to get things started. 😂 haha "I love the color of your eyes." Just don't say it like you're asking for something. Say it like you want her. The reason you and these othe…
/r/seduction20/05/26 11:48 PM
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I bet you're actually wrong though. I can see this working for casual dating with floosys though This is really disrespectful.
/r/seduction20/05/26 02:03 PM
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This is really good advice. I approve of this message.
/r/seduction20/05/26 01:45 PM
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My experience is that women do love this. In fact, they usually fall in love when I do shit like that. Prior to that I tend to build a lot of connection and comfort through texting and phone though.
/r/seduction20/05/26 01:45 PM
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No, don't do this. You're being super creepy. Let them go. Stop forcing things. Here's a Coach Kyle video explaining what you need to do instead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrqSYaiw16M
/r/seduction17/05/26 03:35 PM
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That you. I really appreciate this response. It's already really helpful. ❤️ I really gotta focus on those positives more. My friend keeps telling me to find at least one positive thing when I go out but I'm super hard on myself. Last night I got my first handhold at a bar (actually first time even hitting on a girl just sitting next to me instead of approaching out of the wild) and for some reason he STILL had to point out to me that it was progress... I think I still have depression brain soft…
/r/seduction17/05/26 01:58 PM
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Can you tell me about how you kept going when it was feeling painful and hopeless? Like I'm making massive progress all the time but I still feel like it's a huge investment with very small gradual gains... like is it really worth it? I don't want to settle but fuck this shit is hard as hell and some days I just wana die, you know?
/r/seduction17/05/26 01:13 PM
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I been going out alone like 10 times recently... just got my first hand-hold tonight. She got pissed at me later on though because I was talking to my friend the bartender. Don't give on. It takes a lot more than five approaches to get somewhere with this.
/r/seduction17/05/26 01:10 AM
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Actually they're not impossible to create on purpose. There are two ways: 1. learning to be completely and happy single and unfucked; or 2. abundant with women. Both are going to make you non-needy and confident.
/r/seduction15/05/26 08:53 AM
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If her firends are trying to save her from you then you already fucked up and you can't recover from that. What you needed to do was make friends with the friends first. You win over the entire group but make it clear you're interested in a specific girl. What I usually do is go up to the girl specifically first, drop compliment or line or whatever, chit-chat for a second and then I acknowledge her friend, greet her and apologize for stealing her friend and then talk to both of them at the same …
/r/seduction13/05/26 10:11 PM
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I don't agree with the intensifiers part. It really depends on the context and how and why you say it. Saying "You are very pretty" in a slow low tone in the right setting could literally make her wet on the spot if you have the right sexual tension going. The other two points though, yes, I agree. Jesus. Yes. 100%
/r/seduction13/05/26 08:48 PM
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I'm a late bloomer as far as daygame goes (middle aged now) despite having a lot of girlfriends and lays earlier in life. It's tricky but we can do it. I think texting right away just to make sure she has your name/number is a good thing. Most important though is to do what you feel like doing and accept whatever results you get. If you're busy later that day and can't text, don't stress it, just do it when you can or when you feel like it. Don't get all algorithmic about it.
/r/seduction12/05/26 07:15 PM
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Good job, regardless. Keep going for it.
/r/seduction12/05/26 06:51 PM
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but I really don't want to keep taking out girls for dinners or drinks There's your problem right there. You're free food, not a date.
/r/seduction12/05/26 01:49 PM
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Disagree. I started dressing better for daygame and with time I started getting really confident, ballst and having higher self-esteem. Ran low on laundry, went to town in rags and honestly nothing changed. It's the confidence and skill that matters, maybe unless you're after really superficial girls specifucally.
/r/seduction11/05/26 12:45 PM
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Saying "Hey, excuse me, I just had to say you look incredible tonight. How's your night going?" takes a lot of bravery, is not in any way agressive and is exceptionally well received. No need to debate, you can just take my word for it. 😉
/r/seduction11/05/26 11:58 AM
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Not teally. It takes balls.
/r/seduction11/05/26 08:05 AM
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In other words, yes.
/r/seduction10/05/26 12:41 AM
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Yes, move on.
/r/seduction10/05/26 12:06 AM
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That means you're doing really well if you are getting numbers in person. Good job. Keep it up. Don't worry about your mistakes. Just keep going forward.
/r/seduction05/05/26 10:55 PM
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It will pass with time. Keep doing what you are doing. Do more approaches in just the way you were planing. You got a rejection, so just move on. I still think of a couple of old ones, but eventually I forget for the most part.
/r/seduction05/05/26 09:51 PM
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So from me two you I would say you should try to get to know her irl. That's the goal. We met online though. She wanted to talk on the phone before agreeing to a date, so we did that.
/r/seduction05/05/26 09:47 PM
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It might work in the right setting.
/r/seduction03/05/26 08:21 AM
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Talk to them.
/r/seduction02/05/26 12:38 PM
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That's not really a compliment, it's more of direct flirting.
/r/seduction30/04/26 11:08 PM
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how many times have you given someone a compliment and that same person has got angry at you. Three times. One girl yelled at me in front of a crowd of people. Another one followed me in her car and harassed me. A third one just made a funny face and seemed angry. Oh there was also this Russian chick that was like "So?" These are extremely rare though. I compliment A LOT of girls, so negative experiences are bound to happen. 99.999999% of girls are SUPER nice though. Women are just people, which…
/r/seduction30/04/26 11:08 PM
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That's very true but it's not just about that. You do actually want to know them to see if you like them or not. It also helps them get comfortable.
/r/seduction30/04/26 10:30 PM
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I don't like this post but I'll take the opportunity to say something. Go after the women you actually want. That's how I'd put it. I don't think there's any thing such as objective 9s and 10s. What matters is that you don't go after girls you don't really like. That's bad for them and bad for you. Your girl deserves to be appreciated and if you don't fully appreciate her then you're hurting her and wasting her life and knecapping yourself for no goddamned reason. Personally I love well-taken ca…
/r/seduction24/04/26 09:14 PM
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Gonna have to agree.
/r/seduction24/04/26 09:09 PM
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Second, if a girl does make me believe she's trustworthy enough to commit to but she ends up cheating anyway, I hope she does it as soon as possible, so I can leave her and go back to multiple FWBs as soon as possible too. So you're big into polarization theory?
/r/seduction23/04/26 05:38 PM
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Thanks for answering. I appreciate it. So if one of them starts pulling back, she's actually screwing up her chances with me, because I'm borderline overwhelmed as it is, so I'm relying on each individual girl to "remind" me about them. Yeah, I think this may be the real problem here. I'm not really there yet and still in scarcity and literally just too available. So I am matching how she's acting but it takes nothing for me to do so, because she'll probably not even cross my mind as I'm setting…
/r/seduction23/04/26 04:57 PM
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Not doing anything is much easier than doing something FOR YOU, it is, but not for me. For me, it's MUCH easier to do something.
/r/seduction23/04/26 11:40 AM
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I'm not redefining any words. I'm talking about how it is perceived by different people. For her it LOOKS like I'm investing when I'm courting her. For me, that's what's easy. For me, it FEELS like I'm investing when I pull back. it takes a lot of effort to slow down for her sake.
/r/seduction23/04/26 11:28 AM
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Yeah, there are plenty of ways to solve the problem but that's beside the point and doesn't answer the question.
/r/seduction23/04/26 10:14 AM
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Nope. You, on the other hand, never even try to uncover who the girl is. You only think about yourself and enjoy how good it feels to love and say loving things. Incorrect. I don't know why you made all these weird assumptions, most of which are wrong. It doesn't really answer the question.
/r/seduction23/04/26 06:10 AM
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You should start small by talking to all kinds of strangers all of the time. Talk to old people and shop keepers. Do it as often as you can. Then start platonic conversations with unattractive women. Then start platonic conversations with attractive women. Once you do all of this (which can take months or years) then start flirting with attractive women.
/r/seduction22/04/26 11:21 PM
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You're playing with words. If you do not pull back when she pulls back, you are guaranteed to not get what you want from her. If you pull back when she pulls back, you can get what you want from her.
/r/seduction22/04/26 11:01 PM
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That won't work if what you want is to continue "investing" in a girl who's pulled back. That's how you lose her.
/r/seduction22/04/26 09:57 PM
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Thank you for posting this. I have a question though. What about girls on Tinder who have their thing set only to "Long-term relationship". There are a lot of very attractive older women that I skip because of that. Personally, I want to have kids, so I couldn't get into a relationship with them, but I would love to have side-quests with them. How serious are they on average about that tag?
/r/seduction21/04/26 06:11 PM
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Nah, this is terrible and dishonest. How would you feel if someone was using you for practice? Disgusting. Stop being a pussy and pursue the women you want. You're just being hurtful.
/r/seduction18/04/26 11:25 AM
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Who goes to a bar on Wednesday night... Are you okay? 😁
/r/seduction18/04/26 06:40 AM
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Then you didn't stay long enough. I was in a town of 40k this afternoon and approached 2 girls within just two hours. There were 2 more that I could have but failed to take action on. I think you're just making excuses man.
/r/seduction17/04/26 11:36 PM
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That's not even close to enough. People recommend going 3 times a week to do at least 3 approaches and that's like bare minimum.
/r/seduction17/04/26 11:33 PM
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I want to add two things to this. It took me forever to figure this out... but it's actually a huge win when you are seen approaching girls confidently. So for example, I did this perfect set this morning, hitting on a barista. There weren't a ton of people around but there were two girls sitting behind us sharing a laptop. When I went for the number close, it was super obvious they perked up, not in a judging negative way but like a curious and "wow" kinda way. Also, another great example is wh…
/r/seduction15/04/26 10:53 PM
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Man, I just wanted to say, it's never too late. I hung out with a guy this weekend who was in his 60s and he didn't start until he was in his mid 50s. I'd say he's one of the best around. He does very well for himself just doing daygame. It's hard but the more you do, the easier it gets. am now starting to see a rejection as a subjective choice by an individual girl. She doesn't speak for all women. That's a really good point too. Another good point is it really depends on the circumstances too:…
/r/seduction15/04/26 03:47 PM
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Yeah, it's the Dichotomy of Control from the Stoics. I don't think it's a random numbers game either though. Skill is critical. It's a mixture of both. I saw plenty of examples of it this weekend. Some people working the same area are far better than others. It's like you gotta present yourself well. If you were covered in shit and walked up to her, she wouldn't be interested either. That's the same as having poor social skills and uncalibrated game. Those teachers all helped me a ton.
/r/seduction14/04/26 08:25 PM
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Take a ton of action while studying theory on the side. Focus primarily on pursuing women, expect a ton of rejection and just keep improving with time. You'll get desensitized, more skilled and eventually good.
/r/seduction14/04/26 06:14 PM
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If you aren’t happy by yourself, you don’t have high self esteem by definition. I wouldn't define it that way at all. You could easily have high self-esteem but be unhappy for external reasons.
/r/seduction14/04/26 05:58 PM
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The problem with this aproach is - sometimes women take more time to figure out if they like a guy or not. So trying to escalate immediately Read what I said more carefully. In my opinion, desperation grows organically with the number of failed attempts and wasted efforts. Disagree. Taking more action and getting more rejection reduced my desperation. Not true, because if you get rejected - you're one step further into desperation territory. This isn't how it works. That's the main point of what…
/r/seduction14/04/26 02:16 PM
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There are plenty of people with high self-esteem that aren't proactive or happy alone, so I can't agree.
/r/seduction14/04/26 02:14 PM
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Self-esteem js very important and I agree with most of what you say but that's not all of it. You also need to be okay being alone, able to walk away and you also need to keep veberating hope by honestly chasing ledes. All three componentd are necessary in my opinion. You do need that sekf-esteem though in order to say no and walk away when the deal ks not right for you, so in a way maybe you're right in the sense that it's more fundamental but I think it's also critical to understand what I sai…
/r/seduction14/04/26 08:42 AM
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Oh man, relax. I'm just asking you what you said. Very interesting response though.
/r/seduction14/04/26 03:34 AM
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I just add bunches of girls and flirt with them all. I added about 100 and got 3 solid conversations out of them that are continuing now. Also a bunch of dead ends watch my stories now, so who knows, maybe that's useful later.
/r/seduction14/04/26 03:32 AM
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Bro can you not explain your point without making us watch a half hour long B movie?
/r/seduction14/04/26 01:10 AM
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I don't know but they're wrong. I just saw an average looking 65 year old, a short skinny dude, a not great looking tall guy and a dude with bad skin all grab multiple numbers this weekend. Whoever you're listening to is just spouting cope. While I didn't pull myself as middle aged with a bit of a belly, I did incredibly well for just starting out daygame for this season. Spend more time working on understanding women and taking action instead.
/r/seduction14/04/26 12:03 AM
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She provides social proof by showing other women are cool with you. It means you're a safe guy with at least some social skills and not a complete idiot. She gives you the same encouragement and "home base" as wingmen. She also provides the same momentum since you can talk to her and hype each other up. She can also talk you up and be trusted for it (which men can't).
/r/seduction13/04/26 11:38 PM
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And yes - it is frowned upon. Is it really frowned upon and by who? I've almost never had anyone react negatively. People reject me, yes, but generally people seem to be happy to talk. I've been yelled at once by an immature girl and I had one woman completely ignore me... that's kind of about it. I feel like that idea about the culture holds me back though. Like it gives me anxiety, stopping me from approaching, but like when I do it nothing bad ever happens. Does that make sense? This is Swede…
/r/seduction09/04/26 05:19 PM
2

That's an interesting way to think about it.
/r/seduction08/04/26 05:55 PM
1

And it's okay to be afraid. What's not okay is being afraid and pretending not to be afraid. One of the best dates in my life happened the day I realized this.
/r/seduction07/04/26 06:10 PM
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Should I give up? No, you should go socialize. The answer to your question is that you're not meant to meet women if you don't socialize. You need to do what it takes. Learn to like it. What do you dislike about it? I hated it. I got better at it. Now I don't. Maybe I can help.
/r/seduction05/04/26 04:53 PM
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You will find this in Eastern European women (Ukrainian and Russian) sometimes. They can be very extreme. A lot of feminists will talk about patriarchy as if men enforce it (which is true in a lot of countries), but my experience with certain Eastern European women is that they go even harder than the men do in some other countries. It's actually insane. The gender roles are made out of tungsten fucking carbide for them.
/r/seduction04/04/26 12:04 AM
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No. Listen to women, for years.
/r/seduction28/03/26 11:49 AM
1

It costs you nothing.
/r/seduction27/03/26 06:12 PM
1

I don't keep track. More than zero. I reconnected with one girl years later, actually, based on a social media post. I just keep them around if they want to be around. You never know.
/r/seduction25/03/26 10:21 PM
1

I'd say it costs you nothing to try. You lose nothing. I'd also say they probably aren't very good at texting game.
/r/seduction25/03/26 09:54 PM
1

Yes, many.
/r/seduction25/03/26 02:13 PM
3

This is why ya'll need female friends so you can see this from the inside and learn.
/r/seduction25/03/26 01:58 PM
6

Exactly. There's nothing to lose.
/r/seduction25/03/26 01:56 PM
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I wait 2 days, then start a new conversation with her as if nothing happened, friendly. If that dies, I wake 2 weeks and do the same maybe with a joke "worrying" that she might not be alive or something like that.
/r/seduction25/03/26 01:56 PM
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/r/seduction21/03/26 10:16 PM
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what to talk about on dates Have you posted your opinions on this before? how to get good pics of myself This would also be interesting. I've started getting better, but it's not enough imo.
/r/seduction09/03/26 04:52 PM
1

Ineresting.
/r/seduction04/03/26 06:57 PM
1

I like this.
/r/seduction02/03/26 04:10 AM
1

And you’re certain that there were absolutely no positive effects of therapy that showed up later on on the therapeutic work you did years earlier? Yes.
/r/seduction01/03/26 09:17 PM
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I guess many years worth, trying different people. I used to be very depressed and had severe social anxiety, so started when I was 14. I ended up solving it myself later after understanding the situation better. I don't think I ever got anything from it, to be honest. I'm really surprised people do. They must have different problems.
/r/seduction01/03/26 05:38 PM
1

lol What? Was this meant as a response for something else? 😁
/r/seduction01/03/26 05:34 PM
3

but at the end of the day it's having the self-awareness to relax and calm down your nervous system, in whatever situation, until you don't have to do it consciously any more. I think you're right.
/r/seduction01/03/26 04:05 PM
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I tried reading both of those books but they turned out to be psuedoscientific nonsense. I was very disappointed.
/r/seduction01/03/26 03:27 PM
1

Therapy was the single most effective and consistent method of progress. Why do you think that is? I've never found therapy particularly useful or interesting.
/r/seduction01/03/26 02:57 PM
1

Thanks. That all sounds healthy.
/r/seduction01/03/26 02:06 PM
2

That sounds hard. When I depend on external validation, I feel under the control of others and more volatile that way.
/r/seduction01/03/26 02:05 PM
1

What kind of things does your therapist ask of you?
/r/seduction01/03/26 01:52 PM
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Have you considered, you know, talking to her? Here's what I would do "Hey, you doing okay over there?" ["Yeah, why?"] "It feels like you might be pulling away, so I thought I'd just check on you make sure everything's okay." Don't accuse her. Just tell her what it feels like to you and then show concern for her (this shows that you're not insecure by assuming it's you and also shows that you actually care what's going on). If you've been making her feel safe, she'll tell you. If not, she won't …
/r/seduction25/02/26 12:33 PM
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If she gives you sex before commitment, that's on her. Bro, this is trash. Don't do this shit. Be honest with people and negotiate the terms like OP did.
/r/seduction25/02/26 01:44 AM
2

Two wrongs don't make a right.
/r/seduction25/02/26 01:42 AM
2

Yeah, man. It happens. I don't want to go into it but that was my whole last relationship in both directions with my ex. We both unintentionally hurt each other even though we both cared very much about each other and were doing our best. Sometimes it's just like that. I liked you're story man. That was sweet and sad. You sound kind. Stay that way.
/r/seduction25/02/26 01:40 AM
3

I use apps like Tinder in a passive way with success. Population of that city?
/r/seduction23/02/26 12:47 PM
5

I think she wants more.
/r/seduction22/02/26 11:42 AM
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Thing is, is that it was all girls sitting there with all of their friends. This is a fantastic situation, but I started panicking. It was too early in your journey to do that kind of thing. Don't beat yourself up about it. You need to work your way up to it. When you start a night like that, you need to be talking to people already. Talk to people before you even go out, talk to people when you get out (men, bar tenders, uninsteresting girls), THEN you go talk to the hot girls. Not as your firs…
/r/seduction21/02/26 07:05 PM
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It takes time. You need to work on making her feel safe and that'll take time. She's probably just shy, so don't pressure her. Just let her open up gradually. Be okay with her not talking too much. Just accept her how she is. To get things moving forward though, I think you should carry some of the conversation. Share about yourself... when you ask her a question, tell her your version of the answer and how it makes you feel. Don't start off deep... just share little things about yourself and if…
/r/seduction21/02/26 06:19 PM
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I don't know how men can be so blind. It's obvious that she developed feelings for you and now she's hurt. She may not have fully understood she had those feelings for you until she got news of you seeing another girl. I'm not surprised either, it sounds like you were dating more than just fwb. It would be hard not to become attached doing all of that.
/r/seduction18/02/26 02:08 PM
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So I just started doing this so I don't have a ton of experience but I did pretty well by my standards. I probably had more social anxiety than you but I'll start from the beginning in case other people need it. This was a long term project for me that took months (since I don't go to the city that often). What I did first was just went to a bunch of different bars solo expecting nothing. All I had to do was get one drink and drink it there alone. That was my goal. It was actually pretty hard. Y…
/r/seduction18/02/26 01:07 AM
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As long as you're not bragging it's okay. It also depends on what you're saying about the women you're talking about. Would a woman hearing this want to be in her position? If you're judging her, sharing her vulnerability, talking about how easy she was, etc. then the answer is no and you're turning off the one's listening. A gentleman never tells. Also, once you are with any of these women and they know you're preselected, stop talking about other women. They don't want to hear that shit. They …
/r/seduction15/02/26 01:34 PM
2

Even if she likes you, which she might, I think this is a bad idea. There's too much of a weird power dynamic going on and also as other said it could blow up in your face and then you have to live with her. If you want to pursue her, wait until you move apart. If you go forward with it though, be VERY slow and VERY subtle... gradually escalate over a long period of time, and break off if you get a "no" at any point.
/r/seduction13/02/26 12:40 PM
6

Your post has my stamp of approval.
/r/seduction12/02/26 06:10 PM
4

No, these are incel beliefs.
/r/seduction11/02/26 06:03 PM
1

Alright, be bad with women if you want.
/r/seduction10/02/26 09:46 PM
1

Ehhh that’s debatable about the specific character traits that we can embody. I don't think it's debatable to women at all.
/r/seduction10/02/26 09:42 PM
1

I feel like all that advice will do is cause people to get stuck in their heads walking on eggshells being overly critical of fucking things up when they didn’t do anything wrong. It’ll make guys feel like they need to put on a dance or a performance to convince a chick to give him a chance when in reality, the girl just wasn’t in to him enough and that’s ok. This is the opposite of what they need to do. They need to become actually attractive and then just be authentic. which is subjective but …
/r/seduction10/02/26 09:32 PM
4

If I were a women, I would NOT choose myself over hotter guys, what's the point? I think you're making a mistake. You're assuming that sexual attraction in women and men work the same. It doesn't. Women don't care as much about looks as men do, not even close. It's true that you're fucked on Tinder because looks is all they have to go on, but all of your other options are open to you as long as you're able to display your personality. Sure, good for you if you're the guy who can pull it off, but…
/r/seduction10/02/26 07:39 PM
1

No that's just what you wanted to hear. Don't be pushy.
/r/seduction10/02/26 09:51 AM
2

I don't know. It's hard to reframe beer belly and jobless, but the truth is, that's exactly what a bunch of girls went for, so who am I to judge... I think it's because I'm projecting my values onto them, but clearly they don't work like me or the way society tells us they do.
/r/seduction09/02/26 08:57 PM
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I've been thinking about this a bit lately. It's weird how I have complete confidence with women I know, but still have issues approaching. I know I'm the best man my last ex ever had in her life, without a doubt, and I had no problem explaining this to a female friend who tried to question me on it... yet I never feel like that when approaching strangers, quite the opposite. I'm focused entirely on my flaws (which no girl before has ever even cared about!) I wish I knew how to internalize these…
/r/seduction09/02/26 08:44 PM
3

Furthermore, it invites reciprocity. The woman might feel more open to honest revelations. Exactly, and when you treat her well when she opens up, then you're really getting somewhere. The last thing she wants to be is judged or rejected when she's vulnerable... When she feels heard, accepted and all that, then things are going to go even better. There was a wonderful book written in the 70s "Pairing" Hmm, I'll have a look. Any idea of the author?
/r/seduction08/02/26 12:59 AM
4

This right here is why you guys can't get girls to come to your house on the first date. Appropriate levels of vulnerability early on build a ton of comfort and connection. Don't overshare, just answer her questions accurately. Admit when you're nervous or insecure. It takes confidence to do that. They value it.
/r/seduction07/02/26 06:43 PM
1

Always.
/r/seduction07/02/26 05:38 PM
4

Impressive contribution.
/r/seduction07/02/26 05:19 PM
8

The Game Neil Stauss wrote a second book called "The Truth" about his sex addiction, by the way. It's a thing. He wasn't able to quit pick-up even though he had an amazing girl who he loved and who loved him. Then he realized he probably had a problem and went on this epic (and honestly ridiculous) quest to figure himself out. Sex and Love Addicts Anonymous (SLAA) exists and so do a few other groups related to the same subject. Personally, I identified with some of the stuff said in Love Addicts…
/r/seduction07/02/26 05:19 PM
1

från
/r/seduction07/02/26 12:31 PM
1

I'm not a fan myself and think OP is disgusting but there are two factors. One is biological. Men who slept with many women throughout history (and prehistory) were the ones were most likely to reproduce, so the men who had a tendency to do that were the ones who survived and passed on their genes. There is essentially no cost to men getting lost of women pregnant in the wild. Pregnancy, on the other hand, can be a death sentence and then requires a lot of resources after that, which is why wome…
/r/seduction07/02/26 12:03 PM
5

Found the Swede.
/r/seduction07/02/26 11:55 AM
6

No, none of that. I met most on OKCupid and Tinder. Some even came from other countries to stay at my place. You just don't know what you're doing. It's that simple. That's great news though. It means you can learn. It's a skill.
/r/seduction07/02/26 11:51 AM
2

Why do you think that is? Teach.
/r/seduction06/02/26 08:26 PM
22

Every girlfriend and hook-up I've ever had except for a couple have come to my house for a first date. OP is wrong about it just being a numbers game. He has game and it does matter. Being a safe person and making women feel safe matters a shitton.
/r/seduction06/02/26 08:25 PM
2

Awkward silences are fine. You're making them awkwarder by not wanting them to exist. Just relax, be quiet and sit with her. Be honest too, "damn, my mind went blank" (if you're really relaxed, you can make a flirty joke about how she has that to you). Talk about her. Make guesses about her life and personality. Comment on her answers and what they might say about who she is. People love to talk about themselves. "i need to project masculinity" <- drop this nonsense. You're giving yourself anxie…
/r/seduction06/02/26 01:00 PM
5

They said 0. Read?
/r/seduction05/02/26 03:24 PM
5

but I've been the one initiating the physical contact every single time. So you just figured out that you're a man and have to initiate everything? it's one sided and I don't know if it's because she's too shy or she just isn't a touchy person She's a woman. It's your job to lead the dates. She doesn't know you that well. Wait until she falls in love with you. She won't be able to keep her hands off you. There will still be many times where you have to initiate though. Any advice on how to appro…
/r/seduction03/02/26 11:13 AM
6

I know, what is with the posts here lately. It's been really bad.
/r/seduction29/01/26 08:35 PM
4

Honestly I think you need time to heal. Don't let your skills rust but focus on yourself as much as you can. You need time. How long were you two together anyway? They say it can take up to half the time of the relationship to bounce back fully. I've been where you are though but it gets better. I did six years with a woman and I think it took me like 2 years to fully be done with her... I don't think meaningless sex is going to fix anything for anyone though. You gotta figure out how to be whol…
/r/seduction28/01/26 07:57 PM
1

She was my neighbor for a while... or rather girlfriend of my neighbor.
/r/seduction28/01/26 05:21 PM
8

How do posts like this get upvoted? Do people use bots? Everyone knows that, man. People are come here wanting to know how to do that, not be told things they already know. You contributed nothing.
/r/seduction28/01/26 01:28 PM
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Most likely, her "you are not supposed to ask like that" was a shit test and you failed by apologising and not holding your ground No doubt... or she has some specific trauma related to the phrase.
/r/seduction27/01/26 09:10 PM
1

It all starts with attraction Nothing OP said contradicts that. She obviously knows that. Here the OP says that every woman wants to be unique. Yes they "want" that but look at what they do. Like I said, I do look at what they do. OP's advice is solid. It works well in real life.
/r/seduction27/01/26 09:02 PM
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Damn, this is hella valid too. I should probsbly listen go you because I feel like I'm putting in way too much work and not getting enough out of it snd them getting bitter that women are asking for more. OPs advice is very good imo as in its something that works well but it's also women asking for more without giving any more. Men do all the work these days while women have it super easy with literally thousands of options each but keep saying "not good dnough, do more." I duno. Like I said in …
/r/seduction27/01/26 04:00 PM
3

She clarified, but she was talking about casual sex anyway not relationships.
/r/seduction27/01/26 05:08 AM
2

Well okay, yeah maybe they're just lying in that case, if they have no way of knowing. 😁 haha
/r/seduction27/01/26 04:54 AM
3

Thanks for the contribution. Awesome post. The best advice I can give is to create the feeling of a unique connection - remembering specific details, creating inside jokes, forming a bond over a shared experience or interest. This is top tier advice. I try to make every single experience unique both for me and her, so we have our own little thing. It was harder when I was younger but it becomes like a skill and at some point it's just natural. One way to do this is to remember something she said…
/r/seduction27/01/26 04:48 AM
1

What year is this from?
/r/seduction27/01/26 03:38 AM
1

No, that doesn't work, for the same reason. I wasn't looking for a solution though. I already solved the problem. See my other comment. You need something that really absorbs you or else you'll just check your messages any time you get distracted, tired or have to wait for something (which will happen if you're trying to learn a programming language).
/r/seduction26/01/26 09:48 PM
1

These are good arguments. You may be right about the choice. I haven't seen that pay off yet personally but maybe it will. I think another argument you could have given me though is that becoming what you need to be in order to do daygame generally makes you feel better overall (whether you get any results or not). Apps offer nothing like that. Thanks for the pep talk.
/r/seduction26/01/26 05:10 PM
6

Immediately? It's not about that man. As outlined in that blog post, it's an ENORMOUS investment. You can achieve the same thing with far less. I get similar results from dating apps and social circles... why the fuck would I do 1000 sets? It seems like an absolutely horrible strategy. Krauser, the founder of modern daygame theory, famously, didnt got a lay until his 1000th set.
/r/seduction26/01/26 04:56 PM
1

I found that this isn't enough. I'll end up checking messages between doing things like that and then you end up replying too fast and seeming valueless to them (supply and demand you know), so I needed activities that really absorb my attention in a sustained way.
/r/seduction26/01/26 04:54 PM
2

I had the same problem as you but I actually cracked this. Video games. I started playing certain addictive video games like Cyberpunk 2077 and Mass Effect. I completely forget about girls and just focus on that. Turns out, my results end up way better. Girls start sending me nudes and shit to get my attention back because I'm not forking it over for free anymore. That said. Don't become a video game addict. Take care of everything else in your life before you waste time on that shit. A better s…
/r/seduction26/01/26 04:51 PM
4

Here is an experiment. Not really encouraging. These numbers are so fucking bad, it seems hopeless.
/r/seduction26/01/26 04:44 PM
2

Man, I feel so bad for you because you are SO close, further ahead than a lot of people here. I think you need to print this out and take it to a therapist honestly, but I'll try to give it a stab. I think you were too judgemental about that girl. It's obviously she was into you and probably wanted something serious with you. She was probably a good girl deep own and you were overlooking that. On the other hand, she wanted you to be more of a man and move things forward and I think you already k…
/r/seduction26/01/26 02:41 PM
2

I don't think women are bad or any of those things in general and in all parts of dating even. They can be very giving and self-sacraficing in relationships, often to their own detriment. I'm not even complaining about those things, just shutting down your arguments. Those are just facts. Don't try to argue women have it worse. They don't. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be understanding of the disadvantages they do have and try to improve those conditions when we can though, of course. My proble…
/r/seduction25/01/26 01:13 PM
1

But they have it worse in nearly every other metric when it comes to dating and relationships. I disagree. It's also in their favor later in the relationship too. The woman has so much more power because she can leave at any time, while the man can't. He'll have to do all work all over again. She can take 5 minutes and set up a new Tinder profile and get a new menu presented to her to pick anything she wants. So in the end he's still working for her because she has all the power. Oh and she also…
/r/seduction25/01/26 10:04 AM
1

You didn't think about it because you're not very smart and you'd rather talk back than think things through. The way it works id you start with small successes and gradually build your way up. You talk to strangers, just say hi to gurls, just comoliment girls, just have normal conversations with girls, flirt with girls online, e. All of this will gradually build up your confidence since they are forms of success. You're proving to yourself that you're not that bad and prople do like you. Then k…
/r/seduction25/01/26 09:03 AM
2

You forgot one. Get success. The more success you have, the kore confident you'll be.
/r/seduction24/01/26 03:03 PM
3

Damn, I think that's actually an insightful way of looking at it.
/r/seduction23/01/26 07:53 PM
1

I'd rather them put in as much effort or at least acknoledge they have it extremely easy. Men are exposed to many risks far beyond a 1 in 5 chance of being raped which outweigh what they have to deal with on that front. We fight their wars, deal with criminals, get challenged in fights, work in coal mines, etc. Historically and currently still statistically speaking, women have very little to deal with in comparison.
/r/seduction23/01/26 07:25 PM
2

Your analogy and explanation helped me but I think it would be even better if it was like drowning in oversweet soda or something disgusting maybe. What about the part where we have to doall the work early on and prior to the setup? My only way of dealing with this is to start looking for really submissive women so I can get paid back for all of this that I had to do and go through.
/r/seduction23/01/26 07:01 PM
1

I walk away from plenty of attractive women before I even know if they liked me because I was being a chooser myself. Any tips on how to get out of conversations or end things when yoi realize sge's unattractive?
/r/seduction23/01/26 06:56 PM
1

“I think you’re attractive and I want to take you out. Here is the time and location” In what context?
/r/seduction23/01/26 06:54 PM
-1

So, you are suggesting that if a guy who looked like Brad Pitt and who had all the trappings of wealth and status were to “chase” a woman, he would be less desirable than a guy who looked like Woody Allen and who played it indifferently? Absolutely, without question. Women hate needy men. It ruins the whole thing for them.
/r/seduction23/01/26 06:53 PM
1

Yeah, it and what you mention just bothers me. I want understanding.
/r/seduction23/01/26 06:50 PM
2

Yeah, I think about this a lot. The weird thing is that women will deny they have it easier in this sense.
/r/seduction23/01/26 04:09 PM
0

Thanks for sharing. That's really interesting, similar to my experience in the past. It's surprising who you can meet just by talking to strangers.
/r/seduction19/01/26 03:03 PM
2

The second thing you mention was in Foundations and Blueprint. Hmmm. Alright man, I'm going to watch all of these. I saved your comment here so I can reply later. Thanks for the fuel; let's see how it burns. 😁
/r/seduction19/01/26 02:03 PM
1

Yeah, these are the kind of things I'm doing.
/r/seduction19/01/26 01:23 PM
2

Thanks. I didn't think of the first thing you said.
/r/seduction18/01/26 04:41 PM
20

One last thing I think about when I don't approach: I get scared I'll make a fool of myself and feel like a loser. But here's the thing... I already feel like a loser when I freeze up and don't go. So you gotta ask yourself, you're gonna feel like a loser either way. Might as well be the one who went up. And trust me, whenever I didn't go up, that feeling was always worse than when I got the guts to talk for 30 seconds and got rejected. Yeah rejection doesn't feel great. But it's not the same lo…
/r/seduction18/01/26 09:25 AM
2

Thanks a lot, man.
/r/seduction18/01/26 09:13 AM
1

Interesting perspective. I found shit way easier in France and the US than in Sweden where I am now. It's one of the reasons I want to find a coach, to figure out if it's just in my head or something real. Wait you're saying go to the Middle East or don't go to the Middle East? I would think that Islam is far worst than ex-protestant and catholic countries.
/r/seduction18/01/26 09:11 AM
1

Can you link some videos you like? I tried to get into it but I just got this feeling like damn "the club became Tyler". Damn, you've got all the dirt. Thanks for updating me.
/r/seduction18/01/26 09:09 AM
1

Wait until middle of next week and ask her how things are going, pretending like nothing is going on. Just literally "Hey, how's it going?" or whatever.
/r/seduction17/01/26 06:36 PM
2

DOI? Interesting perspective. Do you know any that do online coaching?
/r/seduction17/01/26 02:13 PM
1

Oh really? Crazy news. I can't imagine what it'd be like though. Tyler is just ranting on his YouTube about bringing people value (very loudly), nothing like his Blueprint days and Julian is now this weird guru type of guy. Todd V. and Jeffy are each doing their own thing.
/r/seduction17/01/26 02:12 PM
1

That sucks. I only got one and he seems legit.
/r/seduction17/01/26 02:11 PM
1

Damn, I'm sorry to hear that. What coach was that by the way? How are things going these days for you?
/r/seduction17/01/26 02:10 PM
1

Casey zander eyes closed What's that a book or something?
/r/seduction17/01/26 02:07 PM
1

Hmm?
/r/seduction17/01/26 02:06 PM
1

Been in therapy a lot of my life and serious CBT for the last two years and I feel like I've done far more just on my own. I'd go so far as to say it's basically useless to me. I think people who find therapy beneficial have different problems than I do.
/r/seduction17/01/26 02:06 PM
1

Alright, hit me up.
/r/seduction17/01/26 02:05 PM
1

I have no idea how to find that here... tips?
/r/seduction17/01/26 02:05 PM
1

Who'd you go with?
/r/seduction17/01/26 02:03 PM
1

Thanks for your input. I appreciate it.
/r/seduction17/01/26 02:02 PM
1

They still exist? I thought they went in a totally different direction.
/r/seduction15/01/26 07:58 PM
1

Interesting.
/r/seduction15/01/26 07:32 PM
3

But you need to be able to screen them well What did you screen for?
/r/seduction15/01/26 07:32 PM
2

For example?
/r/seduction15/01/26 07:31 PM
8

Yes, it's trivial supply in demand. If you are in oversupply (needy), you are worthless. If you are in high demand, it signals you have value.
/r/seduction10/01/26 05:49 PM
3

Several.
/r/seduction10/01/26 01:25 AM
25

What you do is just hang out with them for sex and nothing else. If they ask for more then tell them that's not something you're interested in right now. If they're okay with them then now you're officially fwb. If they're not, then you accept that and move on. and I ghosted 1 Don't do that. Speak to people.
/r/seduction09/01/26 05:31 AM
1

This sounds good. Won't be doing dancing any time myself but I know you're right about that from past experience. Moving to a large city What about this though. Can you give us before and after population size? I'm trying to move to a student city with 79k people. Is that enough?
/r/seduction08/01/26 03:03 AM
38

I think the only one relevant to the sub is the last one. Everyone here already knows the others or they probably wouldn't even be here.
/r/seduction07/01/26 11:45 AM
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Don't do the incel thing man. This is a rationalization. This stuff wasn't happening to me before I got more confident and comfortable. Learn how to smile and make eye contact. Learn how to embrace how you feel for a woman and not hide while also not being a weirdo. It can be done. Above all, just be cool.
/r/seduction07/01/26 07:22 AM
9

One I noticed in France is girls putting themselves in my way or sitting near me. There was this one girl, for example, who was walking her dog in the park. She'd walked all around and was on her way out, but before the last crossing by the fountain she saw me see her (I made eye contact and smiled). It was super obvious she was going to leave but instead she came and set on the bench next to me and did literally nothing, expecting me to talk to her. There was another one in a store where there …
/r/seduction07/01/26 03:04 AM
2

But she threw the money in my car for both of us. What? I've never heard of that. Does she make a lot more than you? I've dated two literal rich women (as in multiple houses and cars) and even then we were like 50/50.
/r/seduction05/01/26 06:34 PM
5

Yeah, all of this. I just want to add that OP shouldn't be discouraged though. He can do it if he puts in the work. I have Asperger's and was able to. Just practice, practice, practice. at least 3-4 times a week Talk to everyone though, not just girls. Neighbors, old people, shopkeepers, etc. One thing I do at home to help is go on ChatRoulette a lot. It's a brutal crash course, but it helps.
/r/seduction05/01/26 11:33 AM
1

This is it.
/r/seduction05/01/26 11:30 AM
7

I've heard that anxiety tends to increase around people you're actually attracted to, but as someone who has social anxiety to begin with due to Asperger's, l've had plenty of time to learn how to mask it. Sorry but this is it. You're not as good at masking it as you think. There are many subtle ways that it comes out and women are experts on picking it up. The solution is to overcome your social anxiety by desensitization. You just need to hang out with as many hot girls as possible until you g…
/r/seduction05/01/26 05:16 AM
27

Lately all I can think about is getting back on tinder bumble or hinge and going absolutely wild. But don’t want to loose something good. This is a fantasy. It's hard out there these days. You should learn to appreciate what you have and help her become who she needs to be.
/r/seduction05/01/26 01:17 AM
1

No, I've never had that much failure once I've been on dates. That's extremely bad man. You're doing something wrong. It sounds like you're just not building attraction properly to me. Work on that. Check out Coach Kyle's YouTube, check out Dan Bacon's... maybe watch/listen to RSD's BluePrint. Something going wrong and more experience isn't fixing it for it's time for you to start consuming a lot of theory while you continue your practice. Just start binging those things I mentioned.
/r/seduction04/01/26 02:28 PM
1

It depends on what you mean by good. It can be enjoyable. It's nothing compared to love though. I don't think it's particularly healthy either. I think our ultimate goal should be a sustainable relationship. At the same time, there's nothing wrong with sleeping with people early on in order to accomplish that. Explicitly seeking throw-away sex though... no.
/r/seduction03/01/26 10:06 AM
1

Which part?
/r/seduction03/01/26 03:12 AM
1

fucking grim. What do you mean?
/r/seduction01/01/26 09:57 PM
3

I mean it doesn't sound any better than Tinder, so why put in all the energy unless you love the process?
/r/seduction01/01/26 08:53 PM
1

Never invest more than her. When she starts investing, then you can invest back again. Mirror her for a while until she starts treating you like a person.
/r/seduction01/01/26 08:20 PM
2

Ew.
/r/seduction01/01/26 08:05 PM
1

First, I want to say that it's awesome that you're even willing to consider it. That already tells me that you're very brave. I dont want to try and convince him to date me but i wanna atleast have the courage to randomly strike up a convo and see where things go. This is exactly the right approach. Well, you're in luck because I'm in your exact position as a guy but a bit further along than you. I went from full agoraphobia and having panic attack seeing someone walking towards me on the street…
/r/seduction01/01/26 07:55 PM
1

It seems like you may not know what the word means. Settling means lowering your standards and accepting someone less than you would otherwise want if you had a choice.
/r/seduction01/01/26 07:34 PM
1

They didn't. You asked if I did. Are you drunk?
/r/seduction01/01/26 07:30 PM
2

No they won't. 😂 The ugliest girls are still very selective in comparison. Did you settle for an ugly chick? Yes, I have in the past, as I said.
/r/seduction01/01/26 07:25 PM
4

Most women don't have that problem either. That's all you hear about because you don't hear about 99% of what happens. It's the complaints and outliers that come through.
/r/seduction01/01/26 07:13 PM
1

Sure.
/r/seduction01/01/26 06:30 PM
1

I don't know how to answer your question and I'm not satisfied with any of the replies; however, I have struggled with this same thing but I have decided to get over it at all cost. I'm cutting out all misogyny and misandry out of my life. I don't know exactly how I will accomplish this, but to some degree I already have. One thing is that I've decided to take it slower and take some of the pressure off of myself. If I destroy my own desperation, then this isn't as much of a problem. As part of …
/r/seduction01/01/26 06:27 PM
7

They're asking how. I think it's a valid question.
/r/seduction01/01/26 06:04 PM
1

In the real world I do OK Just curious what the real world is for you? Bars? Daygame?
/r/seduction01/01/26 06:04 PM
1

and then get treated like dogshit on dates by men who are physically dangerous to their wellbeing. You're missing the point that men ALSO have this problem. Men have the same problems as men AND ONE MORE.
/r/seduction01/01/26 06:03 PM
5

If a guy doesn't find her physically attractive at first sight, she has no chance. That's not even true. There's tons of desperate guys who will settle. I was one in the past.
/r/seduction01/01/26 06:02 PM
0

Then there's no hope 😕 You can get over it. I did. I had full agoraphobia, couldn't even leave my house. I used to get panic attacks when someone walked the opposite direction as me on the street. That was last part was only two years ago. Last night, I went to the bar all by myself and made new friends. Talked to like a dozen people. Had very little anxiety and in most situations I was completely comfortable and secure. The key is exposure therapy. I gradually built up to these kind of things o…
/r/seduction01/01/26 05:59 PM
11

That doesn't sound worth it at all. 😂 What was your contact with women before all this?
/r/seduction01/01/26 03:21 PM
3

You go out and you just talk to everyone. Anyone. Talk to people before you even go out actually. Talk to your friends, family, record messages, call people, then do what /u/Dramatic_Test_5285 says. This method (of what I'm saying combined with what you're saying) is the thing that finally got me going. It was the missing key.
/r/seduction31/12/25 02:51 AM
6

I don't think it's the same. Money is inherently valuable. Sleeping with a bunch of randos isn't. Quality relationships are though.
/r/seduction31/12/25 02:49 AM
2

Thanks. These are nice tips.
/r/seduction29/12/25 04:55 PM
24

get your ass up and and sit at the bar of the restaurant to eat your food. Okay, I will do this. Strike conversations with strangers. i don’t care if they’re old, young, tall, short, gay, straight, male, female, white, ethnic, ugly, attractive, or anything. LEARN TO BE SOCIAL. You’ll have an easier time talking girls when you can talk to everyone else. Yes, talk to everyone, make it a habit! This post is so based. Very good advice. I think you could make a good coach.
/r/seduction29/12/25 04:16 PM
2

I dunno what I'd do with that much time... I don't drink myself.
/r/seduction29/12/25 03:02 PM
5

Yeah. The main bar I'm going to is closed and there won't be any official fireworks, but I'm just gonna show up in the city at 22:00 and see what happens.
/r/seduction29/12/25 02:34 PM
2

What the fuck are you talking about...
/r/seduction29/12/25 01:46 PM
1

This isn't globally true. Austrians and Poles are notoriously racist.
/r/seduction29/12/25 12:47 PM
1

Yeah, sorry but Poland is super racist. Good luck man. Maybe move if you can.
/r/seduction29/12/25 12:46 PM
1

You do realize what's returned in Google is different for everyone, right?
/r/seduction28/12/25 03:42 PM
11

Just go and do your best. If she complains, be honest. If it doesn't go well, learn from it and move on with your life.
/r/seduction28/12/25 01:52 PM
2

"cute guys" This showed me mostly kids. 😂
/r/seduction28/12/25 01:49 PM
1

Okay, don't learn anything.
/r/seduction28/12/25 01:45 PM
1

What I mean is it's not just a numbers game. He lacks the skill and he can learn it. Experience is one way, but experience while studying would be even more effective. I think he would benefit from more content (e.g. Coach Kyle, RSD, etc.) while pursuing more experience. this online shit is an uphill battle if you’re afraid to approach a girl in person I'm the opposite. I started with online and social circle. Got most of my exes and lays that way. Just started doing daygame and bars more seriou…
/r/seduction28/12/25 05:14 AM
10

I dunno man, I think he's doing something wrong. I've never bombed that bad. I might have a hard time getting matches, but I tend to land them.
/r/seduction28/12/25 02:52 AM
1

Curious, do you go by yourself?
/r/seduction27/12/25 11:46 AM
9

don't have a place of my own Found the problem. Case closed.
/r/seduction24/12/25 04:08 PM
16

To be honest you are setting yourself up for disappointment. Putting all your eggs in one basket of one night. Yep, I agree with this. Consistency is what gets results, not huge spurts. Then again, if he really does approach hundreds of girls, it'll have interesting effects. I was able to change a lot in two weeks doing that, but it also didn't stick forever.
/r/seduction24/12/25 03:07 PM
4

Just experience... the more you're in such situations, the better you'll get at it and also the more forgiving of yourself you will be. Practice makes perfect. Just put yourself out there more and it'll all fall into place with time.
/r/seduction23/12/25 08:00 PM
2

Maybe he'll stop looking for it and it will come to him. If we women see or sense that they are needy or desperate, we distance ourselves. Your first and second sentences aren't opposites in the way you seem to think. Men need to be active. It will never come to him. Out of all of the women in my entire life, exactly two of them have come to me. It's not a thing you can waste your life betting on. Men need to initiate. Write first, approach, etc. Listening to that kind of advice (from women) was…
/r/seduction23/12/25 05:20 AM
1

So disgusting.
/r/seduction23/12/25 05:16 AM
1

Agree, terrible advice.
/r/seduction23/12/25 05:15 AM
4

This only reinforces the viewers to be motivated to come to Miami to somehow prove something like its a challenge worth fighting for or something. It's literally a sales technique. They are salesmen above all else. 99 percent of the time you approach a girl she says she has a bf. That doesn't mean anything other than they're not interested in you. They may or may not have a boyfriend. You do understand why they do this right? They don't want aggression or other weird shit that comes after a dire…
/r/seduction23/12/25 12:35 AM
1

I'm struggling with using online to meet people locally right now, so I may not be the best person to ask. What used to work was Tinder, OKCupid, Badoo and national dating sites here but Tinder isn't working as well as it used to and OKCupid is flooded with people from other countries with fake locations. Badoo locked down their site so you have to pay for fucking everything now. I duno, it seems like most of the sites just got worse and I don't live in the best location in the first place. I'm …
/r/seduction22/12/25 05:48 PM
1

Social skills and dating skills. You're going to need a ton of experience to get good. On the one hand, it's about desensitization, but on the other hand it's about practice (like playing the guitar). You need to do a lot to get good. You should be talking to strangers every day just for starters. Talk to everyone. Learn how to flirt properly. Go watch every single video on Coach Kyle's YouTube channel. Then go look up old RSD stuff. For example, RSD's Foundations and Blueprint. Don't take anyth…
/r/seduction22/12/25 04:54 PM
1

Your looks aren't the issue at all.
/r/seduction22/12/25 04:45 PM
1

Don't sweat it though. Just keep putting yourself out there and learning from your mistakes. Experience will teach you better than anyone here.
/r/seduction22/12/25 01:56 PM
1

chill out for a few, played it cool, tried again later. "for a few" and "tried again later here" is exactly the issue I'm pointing out here. You should have waited until she came to you. The pull back is permanent if nothing changes in her. You escalate on a positive from her, not just time passing.
/r/seduction22/12/25 12:32 PM
1

I start amping up the flirting; caressing her back and holding her hand, she sometimes pulled away, but would hold my hand again. Date went on for 3 hours. You're not giving us all the details but it's obvious this is where you messed up. When she pulled away, you should have pulled away too. You were too pushy and came off as needy. When a girl pulls away, back off, go friendly and wait for her to warm up again (if she does); you never ever escalate off of a failure. It's obvious from the faile…
/r/seduction22/12/25 12:16 PM
2

You're welcome. Good luck. Also, it's no big deal if this doesn't work out. Just keep working on yourself and keep trying.
/r/seduction21/12/25 02:38 PM
1

You're over-thinking this and investing too much in it. You need to be more chill. Don't put all your hopes on her. The only things to look out for is if she reciprocates or just flat out tells you she's interested. That it. Is she comfortable with your gradual advances? If so, you're okay so far. If she's uncomfortable, stop. Don't over-complicate this. You're not a pick-up artist or something, you're just some guy softly letting a chick you're into know that you're into her.
/r/seduction21/12/25 02:23 PM
1

I think maybe it's too early for that. Whe actually know eachother because we live in a small town. If I ask her out and she rejects me it will be hella akward. I don't think so... just ask her for something very low pressure and don't treat it like a date. Treat it like you're just hanging out with someone you know, trying to get to know them better and see if it's going to go anywhere. If there are signs she's not into you, you can just be friendly and have a nice time. If she is into you, kee…
/r/seduction21/12/25 01:55 PM
6

I don't know but I'm going to find out for you. I've started trying and at least I am enjoying myself so far. I don't drink. I just buy non-alcoholic beers and sit at the bar. My plan is just to get more comfortable, make bar tender friends and branch out from there. I'm also going to start going to small live music events starting this week. In the past, I had the most success going to live music at cafes and bars, so I'm pretty hopeful, especially after upgrading myself socially so much since …
/r/seduction21/12/25 01:41 PM
51

They can but they won't because they don't have to. They're extremely privileged in that way. Complaining about it won't change anything.
/r/seduction21/12/25 10:45 AM
5

Talk to her like a normal person, if she's friendly flirt with her. If she reciprocates then go with it, if not, move on with your life.
/r/seduction20/12/25 11:40 PM
1

Nuts.
/r/seduction17/12/25 09:30 PM
3

This is the answer. Talk to everyone always. Start with old people and clerks. They are the easiest. Warm up using voice notes or phone calls before you arrive. I use ChatRoulette sometimes. Makes it super easy.
/r/seduction17/12/25 09:00 PM
1

I'm sorry that happened to you. That's terrible. Did the appeal work? Maybe it was just an AI error. Two dating apps of mine got temporarily banned for nor reason (I hadn't even talked to anyone yet) just beause of my e-mail address or IP address or something. They corrected it though.
/r/seduction17/12/25 08:31 PM
1

Easier to know, harder to be.
/r/seduction17/12/25 03:59 PM
2

One hour a day sounds like a huge investment. 😂
/r/seduction17/12/25 03:07 PM
4

Damn, that was ballsy. 😁
/r/seduction17/12/25 02:49 PM
7

What exactly did you say?
/r/seduction17/12/25 02:48 PM
1

After that, landed back home with a profile full of international pictures, good prompts and hingeX, I was essentially matching as much as I could with 4 dates in a week at one point. Where do you live?
/r/seduction15/12/25 10:11 AM
2

Then why are you even bothering with this...
/r/seduction15/12/25 10:07 AM
0

I think people are being super silly about getting fired. The key is just to not over-escalate, which is trivial if you take them on a fun date or something. Just spend some time with them. There must be something in the town that you want to do, invite her alone, then end the night at your place. At least get a drink or something. This all clarifies the situation.
/r/seduction15/12/25 10:07 AM
5

Good. Remember them.
/r/seduction10/12/25 09:07 PM
39

Hey, it's okay to be shy and nervous. Don't try to be something you're not. It'll come with time. For now, just be yourself and only hang out with people who are kind to you for who you are. If someone treats your poorly because you're shy and nervous or they reject you because of that, then that's not a person you need in your life, no matter how horny you are.
/r/seduction10/12/25 02:35 PM
8

This is backed by science Not that I disagree, but do you have any references for that?
/r/seduction08/12/25 01:34 PM
4

Supply and demand. If you're always available then she doesn't see you as valuable. Something rare is worth more. If you text all the time, it also shows you don't have your own life which is unattractive. It can also show that you don't have other options, which is also unattractive. Women want men that other women want.
/r/seduction08/12/25 01:33 PM
5

/u/hunterpua is probably he main other person you should be listening to here, by the way. I have both tagged.
/r/seduction06/12/25 12:32 PM
7

I understand this intellectually, but how do I get there?
/r/seduction04/12/25 10:19 PM
2

Wow, you're really an asshole, speaking of walking red flags.
/r/seduction04/12/25 08:56 AM
27

Yeah, this is how I feel as far as daygame. It's generally great to be rejected by a girl in real life, because it means I expressed myself and did the thing. I'm usually proud of myself and psyched. Most girls are super kind too, so it's not that bad. I get compliments, thanks or apologies (for having a boyfriend) sometimes and that's even nicer. Not all rejections are created equal though. If I've invested in someone and really liked them and get rejected sucks balls and can even do that world…
/r/seduction03/12/25 02:54 PM
14

Huh, I didn't know such mature and rational people visited this sub. 🤔
/r/seduction03/12/25 07:39 AM
65

So, first, how are you using the apps? You're the girl, so you have a trillion likes, so you're the one choosing these guys, unless you're just swiping randomly. First, filter for only guys looking for long-term. Second, go through all of their photos carefully and skip anyone with pictures of sports, parties or anything like that. After that, read their actual text and filter out any that might have hints of not being what you want. This is all you can do as far as being the person who is choos…
/r/seduction02/12/25 08:15 PM
8

Check out Dan Bacon's YouTube channel. If you suck at the basics, go look at Coach Kyle's playlists. Sex starts long before sex, long before the bedroom. It starts with having a good relationship where she respects you and you two have fun (see Dan Bacon). That's the foundation. Then you flirt, long before you do anything. Then take your time with foreplay, make her want you. Keep teasing her until she can't stand it. Then let her have sex with you. You want a slow and gradual escalation, maybe …
/r/seduction02/12/25 02:09 PM
1

I'm glad you understand the situation. hahaha
/r/seduction02/12/25 11:50 AM
6

There's zero chance any of that works.
/r/seduction02/12/25 11:44 AM
8

I'd say "Girl, we both know why we're here. Let's get to it." What. This is terrible advice. You can try tickling her then getting on top of her. No, absolutely not. This is insane. Worst comes to worst I'd just ask her "What's wrong? Why don't you wanna go all the way?" How old are you, 14? This person clearly has no experience.
/r/seduction02/12/25 09:12 AM
8

Myself, I initiate foreplay but I don't initiate sex itself. I just keep making out and teasing them, pausing from time to time, with no particular rush. I just enjoy that. Eventually they get frustrated and drag me to the bed. Foreplay is how you get laid, not by trying to avoid it somehow. It's the easy path forward. Warm them up until they're so hot they pop.
/r/seduction02/12/25 09:10 AM
1

This is the way.
/r/seduction01/12/25 05:24 PM
23

That's pretty cool of you. Props.
/r/seduction30/11/25 07:16 PM
3

I would definitely not say largely, but this is a major factor. If you ever read any romance novels, you will find that the male protagonist is always desired by at least one other woman, often several. Sometimes it is subtle, but it always there, without exception. The reason is obvious and logical. It's supply and demand. Something in demand has a higher value by nature. Women use other's women's judgement by proxy. They also use your own judgement by proxy. That's where confidence comes in. S…
/r/seduction30/11/25 01:19 PM
1

Why? This sounds like how girls behave. Just sound her out. Break it off if she gets uncomfortable or says no.
/r/seduction29/11/25 10:23 AM
1

Wadya gonna do, everyone's a critic.
/r/seduction29/11/25 10:22 AM
1

I don't know, it's up to you. I didn't see or hear her reaction and I don't know what kind of risks you want to take. People also have different moods and can respond negatively when caught off guard. What I might do first is just have normal conversation (about work, the weather, whatever) with her and see if she's uncomfortable, comfortable or positive to your presence. Then you can judge. I can't decide that for you.
/r/seduction29/11/25 09:22 AM
1

She knew you were interested in her existence outside of work, possibly for the first time. She may have even been surprised by that. She probably knew you wanted to ask her out once you asked that, but she indicated she probably wasn't interested by giving a very factual answer. Technically you did not ask her out, if that's what you're wondering. What you could do to take things farther is plan something that you would enjoy doing by yourself, like going to some bar or some live music. Tell he…
/r/seduction29/11/25 09:09 AM
1

I mean it's not exactly hard to build rockets... it's when you start asking them to do specific jobs (lift a certain payload, go to a certain place, both, etc.) when the game gets tough.
/r/seduction29/11/25 08:52 AM
2

What's with the judgyness?
/r/seduction28/11/25 09:25 PM
20

This is terrible advice. I did this when I was younger and it's really not healthy for you or for her. Women love being appreciated and women are very good at picking up on how men feel about them. It's really hurtful to be with someone who can feel that you're not really into them. Not only that, but it can lead to you not treating her as well as you would otherwise. It's really not a sustainable ground for creating a relationship. The other problem is that you won't be satisfied in the long-te…
/r/seduction28/11/25 09:21 PM
6

Good going dude. Amazing work. I like how you were social with the mom. This is the way, just being cool, not acting like a weird predator singling out chicks. Overall, sounds smooths. She also said she had never had a date with a non Spanish guy because here in Spain most girls mostly date friends of friends from their circle, especially the younger ones with good social life. I think the other lesson here is for people to have good social lives as well. It's always been better than dating apps…
/r/seduction28/11/25 10:43 AM
1

Oh okay, got it. Well, I hope you can get to that some day. Sounds like you got a lot of other stuff going on though.
/r/seduction27/11/25 03:55 PM
1

What do you mean if you could do horseback riding?
/r/seduction27/11/25 03:42 PM
1

A couple of them I never met. One girl from Norway I remember at least. We parted ways eventually though when we knew we were never going to hang out. It was nice for a while. I think edited my comment above after you answered by the way.
/r/seduction27/11/25 12:27 PM
2

I don't know anything about demanding, but I find that it just tends to happen naturally. If two people like each other, they tend to stay up all night talking. I've done it dozens of times. I did break up with one girl who was pushing it too far when I needed to focus on my routine, but that's been super rare. Maybe that's what happened in this case, but it doesn't sound like it to me. If you find someone great, you make a little bit of an exception for a while to fall in love. It's nice.
/r/seduction27/11/25 12:24 PM
0

That's definitely how it works with certain types of girls, man. I have no doubt about that.
/r/seduction27/11/25 12:13 PM
3

He's not gonna listen, but props for commenting. Well said.
/r/seduction27/11/25 11:59 AM
2

That's dumb man. She obviously liked you but was shy. She wanted to spend time with you on the phone to get to know you better so that she could feel comfortable with you and to open up to you.
/r/seduction27/11/25 11:56 AM
23

Honestly something is going on today. This is the worst thread I've ever seen on here. People are bored, drunk, both or something.
/r/seduction27/11/25 11:53 AM
6

I didn't advocate quitting anything. I don't think you understood what I said. You're in the market for good feelings. Women make you feel good. If women are the only thing in your life that make you feel as good as women make you feel, then you are at a disadvantage. It makes you needy and desperate. If you have other things in your life that you value as much or more than women, then it's easy to drop one individual woman if she isn't right for you. You can occupy yourself with the other thing…
/r/seduction27/11/25 10:33 AM
2

You have a point but there's an alternative solution here. Have other things to do in your life that are as good as or better than women. That'll reverse the power imbalance that you're addressing and remove the neediness.
/r/seduction27/11/25 07:37 AM
-22

risk having an autistic child. Hey man, that's not cool at all. You can find another way to say that. Reported.
/r/seduction27/11/25 07:35 AM
6

she had her back turned and as I was walking in Game over. You scared her.
/r/seduction27/11/25 12:03 AM
2

I tried therapy, but I only encountered mediocre psychologists. I think a good specialist costs a lot. I'm glad to hear that. Yeah, I have had the same experience. It's really hard to find good ones, but it can be worth it for some people. I just need to start initiate the conversation myself. Actually, I just remembered that's how I started, by talking to old people. It's the easiest. Shopkeepers, bar tenders and stuff like that too. Just extend normal interactions a tiny bit. Most people appre…
/r/seduction26/11/25 07:11 PM
2

I've been spending what little energy I have on working out and eating healthy, This is a big accomplishment. I think you have your priorities right. I want you to make sure you're sleeping enough and regularly too. Those are the three cornerstones of your foundation. Everything else, your mental health and dating life, is built upon that. I'm a broken guy who was forced to flee war to another country. Have you thought about doing therapy before you dive into this? You may not need it, but since…
/r/seduction26/11/25 06:30 PM
1

I'd love to if it weren't so expensive and if there were actually someone local. What'd you shell out for that?
/r/seduction26/11/25 06:04 PM
1

I tend to fuck up relationships further down the road (months or years) and I don't really approach enough to keep my pipeline full enough. Simple. Answer: Working on myself.
/r/seduction25/11/25 05:35 PM
0

Disagree. I've taken girls off of boyfriends multiple times. It means absolutely nothing.
/r/seduction25/11/25 06:52 AM
1

There are fast and bad ways to get what you want and thats what incels aim to do to get women Actual incels don't aim to get women.
/r/seduction21/11/25 11:13 AM
4

This is what we are saying. This is not what OP is saying. I agree with you, I do not agree with OP at all. Read his history.
/r/seduction20/11/25 06:41 PM
2

This would be a better post than OP's. You're missing the parent's point though: we don't live in a world where good people get laid and bad people don't. The OP is super wrong (besides the part about how incels need to eat shit).
/r/seduction20/11/25 03:43 PM
4

It's obvious you don't understand what he's saying. We do not live in a world where good people get laid and bad people don't. In fact, it's mostly the opposite, which makes the OP look like a real fucking moron actually (while I agree that we must kill incelism).
/r/seduction20/11/25 03:40 PM
4

At least you're trying.
/r/seduction20/11/25 12:40 PM
0

The incel problem here is huge and needs to stop but I don't think this low quality post does anything to help that. I'm disappointed. We can do better.
/r/seduction20/11/25 12:39 PM
6

You just need to practice. That's what I did. What I was doing is just starting my day by recording messages to friends... then going on ChatRoulette and talking to a bunch of random people, then going out and talking to shop keepers and others people and THEN it was possible to talk to girls. I practiced this all last spring and summer and it became easier and easier. The results were amazing (see my top rated comment in my history) Unfortunately I took a long time off and it wore off. You have…
/r/seduction15/11/25 02:41 PM
1

It's just not healthy, all this negativity. It's not at all helpful for anyone to turn men and women against each other and stir up all this hate all the time. Of course it's bad that men and women don't understand each other and don't treat each other well, but we can focus on working on that in a positive way instead of all this bitterness and everyone hating each other. The world does not need incels, feminazis or any of this horseshit. People are just using this kind of content to stir up en…
/r/seduction15/11/25 12:51 PM
1

I'm so fucking tired of this divisive shit.
/r/seduction14/11/25 08:15 PM
1

That's what I was thinking. Oh, it's you. No wonder that comment made sense. 😂
/r/seduction14/11/25 08:13 PM
14

There's two possible reasons, I think. They're doing it for the validation. They just want you to like them; they don't actually want you. It boosts their ego. They enjoy the chase, but don't want something more right now. He's into the game, not the outcome. What kills my interest the fastest and will repulse me is just being a shitty person, like not having a moral awareness of the world and not caring; also not having curiosity. That said, I also need a challenge. Without it I'll get bored. O…
/r/seduction14/11/25 07:05 AM
5

She thinks she already is. What she needs to do is be explicit.
/r/seduction13/11/25 03:10 PM
2

How do I flirt with him in a way that actually gets through to him? He's a man, not a woman. He doesn't need any flirting whatsoever. Tell him you're interested in him romantically and would like to get to know him better and see where things go. He'll be absolutely over the moon hearing that, better than any flirting the best in the world could possibly come up with. how do I seduce a guy who seems too shy to let himself go there? You don't need to seduce him. He's already extremely into you, w…
/r/seduction13/11/25 01:24 PM
7

Yes, point number 5 contradicts this as well. The tests happen in between, obviously, and they matter.
/r/seduction10/11/25 10:29 PM
9

He's trying to make himself feel better by putting others down, trying to brag because he thinks he knows better, showing off how smart he is and better than other people who haven't had this "insight". In other words, it's for the validation. "I've been a player." He thinks he can boost his state this way; maybe he even can.
/r/seduction10/11/25 12:59 PM
13

Like the other day my roommates girlfriend was over and they went into my room and she said “is this where you take all your girls” I told her I’ve never had a girl over and she was suprised. She was flirting with you. It was stupid of you to admit that. You should have flirted back and said something silly like "I don't know, maybe you should find out." Another time we were playing a drinking game and a girl had to guess my body count and she said 10 when it’s only 1 and she was suprised n it w…
/r/seduction10/11/25 09:23 AM
7

I think if you're asking here then it's probably not going to happen but it'd be good to try anyway. What I'd have done is say something like "Instead of rewarding me with coupons, why don't you come over for dinner and drinks some time." Don't get butthurt if she says no. She may even want to but might feel it's inappropriate anyway or be too shy. She's probably just being kind to you because you're a customer though, if I had to guess. It's good practice though and I could be wrong, so definit…
/r/seduction03/11/25 06:36 PM
1

Yes, of course.
/r/seduction02/11/25 06:20 PM
3

These are literally incel beliefs.
/r/seduction02/11/25 12:07 PM
3

because of my incel past First, I'm proud of you for overcoming that. Please don't stop. my reality as a loser who has no game. You're not a loser. You did great. You need to focus on the fact that you did all the right stuff. Most guys can't even do what you do, even me on a lot of days. You're lightyears ahead of the majority who just sit swiping on apps.
/r/seduction01/11/25 05:41 PM
3

Had two girls over tonight with another friend to watch horror movies. Neither one was attractive, but maybe it helps me in the long term (or maybe hurts me). We'll see.
/r/seduction31/10/25 11:43 PM
1

I can only think of one that it didn't work out with off the top of my head.
/r/seduction27/10/25 10:29 PM
0

Why not? That's usually what I do on a first date.
/r/seduction27/10/25 06:59 PM
9

Stop with the incel shit.
/r/seduction26/10/25 06:40 PM
5

Exactly, you're so right. Salesman is a great way to put it. I still make this mistake with girls I know very well because I think we're past that point. No, you're never past that point and I always end up paying for it. 😂 Never sell, never convince.
/r/seduction26/10/25 03:30 PM
6

This is great stuff.
/r/seduction26/10/25 02:58 PM
35

"don't knock it till you've tried it" This is the opposite of what you should be doing. It's desperate, comes off as if you're trying to convince her, which you are. You want to push her away in a teasing way instead, not beg for her attention. "Yeah, you're right. We'd probably end up enemies." with a smirk. If she asks why then that's a good sign. Come up with some silly reason or something "We'd fight all the time." Another approach is "Hey, slow down there, I don't even know your name yet. Y…
/r/seduction26/10/25 02:57 PM
4

You assumed it was wrong to guess wrong. This is a complete failure.
/r/seduction26/10/25 09:14 AM
2

Yeah, you said it better than I did.
/r/seduction26/10/25 09:04 AM
9

Dude calm down, what the fuck? There's nothing wrong guessing she's Santa. You lost frame by caring she got upset. You should have teased her about it. She was just reflecting your own view of yourself. Then you lost your mind with the rest of what you said. Get a grip.
/r/seduction26/10/25 09:04 AM
1

It's his notes counting his approaches as he does them and notes associated with each one (if any).
/r/seduction25/10/25 03:20 PM
3

Imagine a world where women felt safe to do the things the wanted to.
/r/seduction25/10/25 03:19 PM
1

The question was how does someone "totally own his appearance without shame."
/r/seduction25/10/25 09:57 AM
3

Even a homeless looking guy can get a girl if he just totally owns his appearance without shame. Okay but how do you do it? I'm not super over weight but not the weight I want to be yet, although working on it. It still holds me back when approaching though if I feel it that day. Same with my wardrobe, updating but not rich so it takes time. It's confusing though because I literally sleep with hot girls yet these things still hold me back from meeting new ones. I don't get it. How can I not see …
/r/seduction24/10/25 08:56 PM
1

I had no idea. Yeah, I remember Spike too. Benedict Cumberbatch too.
/r/seduction24/10/25 08:54 PM
1

carl grimes The kid in TWD you mean?
/r/seduction24/10/25 08:42 PM
2

Kurt Cobain (who literally wore dresses), The Beetles, Hanson (who all look like girls), The Backstreet Boys and NSync, etc. The list is very long.
/r/seduction24/10/25 08:38 PM
7

I'm glad your here, man. Thanks for posting all this and arguing with these people. You're making the world a better place.
/r/seduction24/10/25 08:09 PM
6

You already do. It's called gas, a car or bus/train ticket or whatever.
/r/seduction23/10/25 01:49 PM
3

What app and what city? Tinder?
/r/seduction23/10/25 01:48 PM
3

Please stop. You don't speak for anyone but yourself.
/r/seduction23/10/25 12:29 PM
5

Confident and very unsuccessful men too, like my neighbor. haha He always thinks that catfish are real. It's impossible to teach him at this point. He falls for it every single time. Already lost a lot of money over it.
/r/seduction23/10/25 12:28 PM
4

Fuck this. Let women do whatever they want. I for one would love it. Who are you to say what women should and shouldn't do.
/r/seduction23/10/25 12:27 PM
5

Sounds like begging.
/r/seduction23/10/25 09:18 AM
2

Fuck no, that's terrible. Every opener is unique, based on their profile. Something flirty that gives them a reason to answer, usually a tease of some sort that mentions something in their profile or photos. On YouTube check out PlayingWithFire or The Single Guy for texting game.
/r/seduction22/10/25 01:58 PM
11

Stop spreading this incel shit.
/r/seduction22/10/25 08:23 AM
22

convos die after “hey” or some lame small talk If that's how you're opening conversations on Tinder, then you never had a snowball's chance in hell.
/r/seduction22/10/25 07:00 AM
3

I would say this is the complete opposite of true.
/r/seduction20/10/25 07:01 PM
-3

What made you go check, or did you remember?
/r/seduction20/10/25 07:01 PM
5

They always do this. It's because they want to sell you something else in DMs. Probably coaching or something.
/r/seduction20/10/25 02:34 PM
6

It's not that different. If anything, it's much easier overall except for one thing: they have much shorter attention spans.
/r/seduction20/10/25 11:33 AM
5

Fuck, you stole my comment. haha
/r/seduction19/10/25 01:19 PM
5

It's supply and demand. Someone who texts them all the time has a lower value because they're too available. Someone that isn't as available but is still attractive has a much higher value.
/r/seduction18/10/25 09:06 AM
2

I don't think he was disassociating himself from it at all. He took personal responsibility for having a problem. He didn't think everyone had the same problem. He became addicted.
/r/seduction17/10/25 10:34 AM
5

Strauss also ended up a sex sddict in rehab for that. He wrote a second book about it. Very interesting.
/r/seduction17/10/25 09:21 AM
11

Impressively mature reply. +1
/r/seduction16/10/25 03:38 PM
13

I agree that the phrase was the problem, but I disagree with you reasoning, which isn't bad per se but I think the bigger issue is that it comes off as clingy, not casual or smooth. She wanted something easy, NSA. It was a huge success for OP though. You're being a real dick about that. For a n00b, even approaching is a huge win. Nobody should compare themselves to others or judge by their stabdards, only whether they're improving and hitting new personal bests or not. That's why we track PRs at…
/r/seduction16/10/25 09:40 AM
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I never understood why people ghost or block people who they had sex with. It's obvious to me why from your story. You got too clingy after sex. She wanted something very casual but you switched into dating mode which she had no interest in. She blocked you so she didn't have to deal with it. Anyway, good job. I'm proud of you for not giving up. This game is tough and you stuck it out. I hope the experience adds to your confidence and you can learn from it and improve. Ignore the haters and ince…
/r/seduction16/10/25 09:37 AM
10

Healthy.
/r/seduction15/10/25 08:13 PM
2

Yeah that fake location shit is why I'm over OKCupid. It used to be great, but it takes so much time to filter those people out.
/r/seduction15/10/25 07:11 PM
1

Why do you like it so much? Also what region are you in?
/r/seduction15/10/25 07:10 PM
5

Nice, okay, so it's a thing even in the US.
/r/seduction15/10/25 07:09 PM
1

Congrats. Where do you live?
/r/seduction15/10/25 07:04 PM
2

That's fascinating. We still have all those features in my market/region. So I am like in your past. For example, if I collect those points (coins?) by being active, then I can use them to DM people, "revive" people and a bunch of other stuff. You can't see matches or have more than a certain amount of swipes without paying, but so far it's dirt cheap compared to Tinder and Tinder won't even let me DM more than a few people per week no matter how much I pay them. The demographic on Boo seems to …
/r/seduction15/10/25 06:17 PM
2

Nobody uses Hinge or Bumble where I live. They're empty; took me a couple of days to get to the bottom of the stack last time I tried like a year ago. This one appears to be full of women with a lot of diversity, more down-to-earth types. On Tinder, it's all kinda the same kinda person; it's really expensive and you can't message that many people. I hate the stupid games the Tinder algorithm plays too, literally hiding people from you for example. Shit's shady af.
/r/seduction15/10/25 04:57 PM
2

Shit as in nobody was on it or just bad results? Breeze Never heard of that one. Hinge and Bumble were completely empty the last time I checked it, but that was like a year or two ago.
/r/seduction15/10/25 04:36 PM
32

Learn to have normal conversations where you're comfortable. You may have to do it a lot until you are. Then basically all you're doing is hinting that you want her VERY subtly. If you're not subtle enough, it'll be taken as too forward. Next thing is that you should tease her playfully (not mean). This is not only fun for both of you but shows that you're not needy and desperate. Using specific lines is a terrible idea. You should just practice a lot until you're good and it comes out naturally…
/r/seduction15/10/25 01:43 PM
2

Laundry room, basement, bathroom floor (in someone's house), behind bushes in a park at night, against a tree in the forest are the ones that come to mind for me. There's also this really fantastic place called her house, which is pretty fun. Hotels I've done but it gets expensive if you're not already traveling. I've never done it in a car or public bathroom but a lot of people do that.
/r/seduction15/10/25 12:05 PM
12

Night eating was harder for me than both porn and meth. Fuck. That. I ended up getting a timelock safe and putting the kitchen key in it before I went to bed. It was hopeless.
/r/seduction14/10/25 03:13 PM
17

not that hard but that requires you to reckon with and accept some truly uncomfortable things about yourself. That there would be a contradiction. It's pretty hard, or obviously they'd all just do it.
/r/seduction14/10/25 01:10 PM
47

No, this is incel ideology. This doesn't belong in this sub. There's a whole book on this called "No More Mr. Nice Guy" by Robert Glover for anyone actually interested in this subject.
/r/seduction14/10/25 01:07 PM
2

Yeah, I find that pulling back and then casually hitting her up very lightly later tends to spark interest. It works even better if I have a super legitimate reason for doing so.
/r/seduction14/10/25 08:11 AM
1

I don't know if you can. Personally, I can't think of any case of someone not being interested off the top of my head. It must happen but if you play it right, you can usually turn the tide. The point is not to over-invest. That's why guys get butthurt. They're investing a ton and not getting what they feel they deserve back out of it. Just leave things open, casual and friendly and something may drop into your lap eventually. Usually I'm also passively looking for what reservations she has too …
/r/seduction14/10/25 08:07 AM
4

That's amazing that you admit it. I'm impressed. Do you think that's the general pattern or are there other reasons out there?
/r/seduction14/10/25 07:49 AM
1

No, I think it's really fun. I love the challenge. It makes me feel alive.
/r/seduction14/10/25 07:48 AM
1

No, I don't think confidence is overrated. It's critical. Meanwhile the loud “I’m so confident” types sometimes come off as fake or overcompensating. I don't think that's confidence at all. It's a sign of massive insecurity.
/r/seduction13/10/25 07:28 PM
8

Definitely.
/r/seduction12/10/25 09:33 AM
25

This is weirdly misogynistic. Have you considered that their bullshit detectors are just better and you're trying to bullshit them? Why don't you focus on authenticity instead? Also, to answer your question: no, I don't have this problem at all. Something in what you're doing is wrong if you require women to be naive and pliant.
/r/seduction12/10/25 09:33 AM
-14

Man fuck this slut shaming bullshit.
/r/seduction12/10/25 07:32 AM
21

He's not your friend. He doesn't respect you.
/r/seduction12/10/25 07:31 AM
-1

Study and practice social skills, learn to flirt, learn how and when to escalate, build your confidence and overcome all of your social anxiety and nice guy syndrome.
/r/seduction11/10/25 11:34 AM
19

Sounds like you missed the point of the post almost entirely.
/r/seduction11/10/25 11:33 AM
-3

100%. You have my full endorsement.
/r/seduction11/10/25 10:21 AM
10

Hard to disagree with...
/r/seduction10/10/25 06:07 PM
4

Both are very right and and both valuable contributions, albeit in different styles.
/r/seduction10/10/25 11:44 AM
11

I do actually but it's obviously not the same hollow ChatGPT slop. It contributed value.
/r/seduction10/10/25 07:30 AM
18

Since this is reddit and we're probably all on the nerdier side, I'll give a video game reference. It's like getting your character up to level 5 and spending weeks or months trying to beat a level/dungeon etc meant for level 10. Reading all the tips and tricks to sneak through, hit the guy at just the right time etc. maybe, just maybe you'll pull it off. But in the end, if you had just spent more time leveling up instead it would all seem effortless. Okay, that was actually pretty good. This is…
/r/seduction09/10/25 08:17 PM
14

He explained how. You need to understand your own life and what you're doing. What is your purpose and what are your goals? Focus on that, and bring women along on your journey. You don't need to be playing games to not seem needy if you aren't needy, because you're busy working on building your own life. Approach women without expectation, expressing your interest, moving forward when they reciprocate and moving on when they don't.
/r/seduction09/10/25 07:36 PM
47

Thank you. This is well written and I agree; one of the strongest posts on here in quite a while.
/r/seduction09/10/25 07:35 PM
3

These are literally incel beliefs.
/r/seduction09/10/25 07:01 PM
1

Maybe you could do even better than you are, but if you're filtering for people who only want to do that activity with you, then my strategy makes no sense for you. Personally I'm in it to spend time with the girl, not just get laid. I don't really find that girls say "um" No, of course not. Don't take it literally. 😁
/r/seduction09/10/25 03:52 PM
2

In my mind this is a bit overly rapport-seeking, like you need some kind of really specific excuse to ask the girl out. You could probably think of better examples, but it's not about having an excuse, it's about qualifying her and giving her an excuse to hang out. The basic structure is to find an activity that we want to do together first and then get concrete about a date. This reduces rejection and flaking. If you say let's get drinks on Friday and she's like ummm, then you don't know if tha…
/r/seduction09/10/25 02:37 PM
3

She's laughing, so that's a good sign. Your suggestion to grab drinks is a bit random like a non-sequitur. You could have chained it together better by saying that you'd love to hear more stories sometime or you're curious what that laugh is like in person. At the end of such a statement, suggest you get drinks sometime (not this week - you were too concrete too early on.) After she shows that she's interested (which it seems like she would be in your case), THEN you get concrete and start tryin…
/r/seduction09/10/25 02:06 PM
12

This tells us nothing other than that yuor game, personality or both suck right now. If you improve that, your results will improve.
/r/seduction09/10/25 05:32 AM
3

I dunno man, I'm hitting a city of 60k and there's a MASSIVE amount of girls around sometimes.
/r/seduction07/10/25 07:13 PM
3

Some people are naturals at certain things. You might be at building attraction or getting solid numbers.
/r/seduction07/10/25 07:02 PM
2

We can't know what's going on. She may be interested in someone else, she may be low energy (depressed or something), she may be testing you for neediness (sometimes girls pull back to see how you will react) or it could be something else, who knows. You should absolutely not give her an ultimatum. That's not cool at all. What you can do though is match her energy. Do not invest more than her ever. If she's giving you short answers, you give her short answers. If she gives you a bit more, you gi…
/r/seduction07/10/25 05:57 PM
1

I don't understand why people who don't actually believe in game are even here. There's the "it's a numbers game" people, but then there's also some literal incels hanging out here. Makes no sense.
/r/seduction07/10/25 02:20 PM
2

Exactly. You gotta have a reason to have their number.
/r/seduction07/10/25 08:25 AM
15

Agree. OP probably isn't building enough attraction in person and his texting game sucks. If you can't dominate in text already, don't bother getting numbers. Get online and practice as much as you can until you're actually good. Check out The Single Guy or Playingwithfire on YouTube for tips, but its really practive that counts.
/r/seduction07/10/25 08:23 AM
4

I've been thinking about this lately too. I want to focus more on becoming regulars at certain cafés and bars actually. It just feels like the right thing to do now that summer is over. There's a reason for this. It's comfort. Repeated exposure is doing the work for you. It desensitized them to you so they know you're cool and not scary. If you have any value beyond that and take some initiative then you work is done for you.
/r/seduction06/10/25 07:15 AM
1

Imagination, memories, erotic stories (preferably written by women if you are a man so you can actually learn something).
/r/seduction05/10/25 12:33 PM
17

No, definitely don't say that. It sounds needy and desperate. Maybe try something like "Maybe you if you're not careful. We'll see." Something flirty anyway. You don't need to actually answer her question early on, or you can jokingly non-answer it and then answer it sprinkled naturally throughout conversation after that. Answering the question is vulnerable, so wait to give her a real answer until she's also being vulnerable and investing. Whenever you're vulnerable when she's not, it's showing…
/r/seduction05/10/25 09:29 AM
5

True true true. Very good. Well put.
/r/seduction05/10/25 08:19 AM
26

For those who don't know, there's a whole book about this by Robert A. Glover called "No More Mr Nice Guy". I highly recommend it.
/r/seduction04/10/25 05:27 PM
1

Thank you.
/r/seduction04/10/25 09:21 AM
1

Which is?
/r/seduction03/10/25 08:20 PM
13

Okay, a couple of people gave you part of the answer here but let me try to put it together for you. First, don't worry about being calm and aloof. It's okay to be smashed by her looks. Never hide that you are attracted to her. Just don't talk about her appearance or body with your words. Girls get that kinda validation all the time and she doesn't need that from you. She already knows that's why you're there and you need to be okay with it too. She is. Talk about other things with her, like wha…
/r/seduction03/10/25 07:55 PM
1

Back in the day David D'Angelo (or whatever his real name is) got me started, but last year Coach Kyle's playlist helped a lot. Also just watching random guys flirt with girls is really helpful, either on YouTube or real life. I would also HIGHLY recommend romance novels written by and for women. Romcoms can also be good but only if they're written by women. Ignore the ones written by men, a lot of them are delusional. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7EfXPxz6Ko&list=PLpp1UUwZH-KpUEc56okHc597Q7O…
/r/seduction03/10/25 03:56 PM
2

Coach Kyle goes through this in detail. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIIuZuvvB_s
/r/seduction03/10/25 10:11 AM
1

I think that in reality these paradoxes are just apparent. Theres a logic to (i think) all of them. Go on. I'm sure of it, but I've failed to put it into words so far. Maybe you can do it.
/r/seduction02/10/25 10:52 AM
12

Yeah, pretty sure this article exists to be divisive and get shared in places like this. People are making money off us hating each other. Fuck that.
/r/seduction28/09/25 08:12 PM
18

This isn't even true. Lots of men are lonely too. Lots of women just want to fuck.
/r/seduction28/09/25 07:18 PM
3

I don't ever go to clubs, but you ever listen to RSD's Foundations? It covers that at length. I think the guy talking about having fun is most likely spot on though.
/r/seduction28/09/25 08:02 AM
6

I was wondering what that squishy thing on the floor was.
/r/seduction28/09/25 08:01 AM
9

She used to be my neighbor for a short time and was still friends with her roommate (or ex guy, not sure) who was still living here and she was coming around a lot. I had her number so when I got SnapChat she popped up.
/r/seduction26/09/25 08:01 PM
19

She seems very nice in any case. Unfortunately, we live in the middle of nowhere, so I'm not sure how much that'll help. With time though, maybe we go out together in the city and she can be my wing. Dreaming now, but hey haha
/r/seduction26/09/25 07:27 PM
22

I mean I wouldn't be super surprised... but still.
/r/seduction26/09/25 05:52 PM
171

Second, you get to desensitize yourself to interacting with women if you struggle with that or have anxiety there. This is what I'm doing with one girl I know. She's a straight up 10 in my view but I'd never date her for other reasons. I'm terrified of her though; I get so fucking nervous around her, so I actually talked about this and we decided she'd help me out and we'd hang out more so I can calm down.
/r/seduction26/09/25 03:03 PM
4

Dude, if a chick has the balls to say that to you then pretty much anything you say is gonna work. Keep it simple so you don't fuck it up: "I like yours too. What's your number?" or "Yours isn't too bad either. What are you doing later?" or if you have balls and can say it comfortably and confidently "I can't tell about yours yet, too many clothes on." with a smirk. Stop overthinking this shit. If you get her number, don't fuck around; no games. "Nice to meet you earlier. I want to see more of y…
/r/seduction26/09/25 11:51 AM
1

You flirt with her and fuck her. I don't mean to be offensive but are you stupid? What the fuck do you think she wants?
/r/seduction26/09/25 11:42 AM
7

Yet there are. Have you never lived in a working class neighborhood? Even the fucking trailer park, man. Come on. The reason there's not even more is because of exactly what you're replying to: many lack game.
/r/seduction26/09/25 09:57 AM
3

Broke deadbeat here. It's about how I make them feel. Be interesting, be a fucking adventure. I also have a high degree of emotional intelligence and I've learned all this game. I'm basically a weapon and I still consider myself a baby in this. You need to be it though, not just pretend to be it. tl;dr Understand women and their perspective and give them what they actually want. ETA: You are unique. Give her yourself, your real self, and be unapologetically yourself, not what you think people wa…
/r/seduction26/09/25 07:58 AM
3

Gotcha.
/r/seduction25/09/25 02:47 PM
3

The adaptation I've made is to cold approach at night, it's like day game where you get higher possible volume but also with the higher energy of night game since women are more likely to talk on a night out Can you explain what you do? I was thinking about doing that this summer but never got my shit together and now it's too cold.
/r/seduction25/09/25 08:38 AM
1

I know. It's weird. It's like he became the club. Sad.
/r/seduction25/09/25 07:35 AM
5

Exactly. It's a horseshoe theory. It's hard to explain this to people though. We need a better way to communicate it. These phrases are broken.
/r/seduction24/09/25 08:29 PM
5

Almost everything the women around me told me when I was younger was absolutely terrible. They completely lacked empathy for men, failing to understand that the man's role is completely different than the woman's and that they actually have to do things. For example, "stop looking and love will find you". This is trash. I really believed that though and wasted years of my life. Another is "be yourself". While authenticity is exceptionally important and one of the highest markers of being attract…
/r/seduction24/09/25 04:16 PM
1

We're not here to be most men.
/r/seduction24/09/25 12:36 PM
3

Your intuition is correct. Trust yourself. Flirt, but don't simp.
/r/seduction24/09/25 12:35 PM
0

Your post is really good but could be a little bit better. Not to mention that getting into a friendship as a hedge to get into a romantic relationship is manipulative and dishonest and women won’t respond well to that. Those who start as friends and then turn into lovers sisnt have any interest in romance in the beginning, and weren’t hoping for something more eventually. It's possible to have a friendship with a woman with the intention of dating her if you are honest that's part of why you ha…
/r/seduction24/09/25 12:26 PM
4

Yeah, I was going to write my own answer but this is the only answer you need. I pulled lots of "friends" but only after I became attractive by significantly updating my behavior and started getting other girls. Pro-tip: never mention other girls for that purpose. Let it come up naturally if anything. You'll look like a needy douche otherwise.
/r/seduction24/09/25 12:13 PM
1

No worries man, I understand. I also understand them too though: they can't imagine that it's possible because they haven't experienced that level of security before. If they're here, they probably don't know how to yet. That's why they feel the need for the control instead.
/r/seduction24/09/25 12:03 PM
3

Develop charm in spades.
/r/seduction24/09/25 08:15 AM
2

I don't see what bearing that has on anything. If anything, it would make me think he's very secure in himself snd his relationship.
/r/seduction24/09/25 08:14 AM
1

Most women are prepared to share the upper echelon of men, not the lower ones. This is wrong. As a poor man myself, if you can't get women to tolerate this shit even as poor then you're not giving them what they want. It's not about money at all, it's about how you make them feel. However, if that same woman dated a man closer to her level, his fidelity would be of significant importance. She can try. 😁 If you're willing to lose her though and giving her what she really needs, she won't go anywh…
/r/seduction23/09/25 08:03 AM
13

Yeah, she felt special but after he forgot her name she probably regretted it.
/r/seduction22/09/25 11:40 AM
1

Exactly. I'm glad to see your comment on top. I've been dowvoted for saying the same shit. Double texting is fine as fuck, just don't be needy and desperate. You have nothing to lose on a hail Mary text and everything to gain. Chicks get busy. Get over it.
/r/seduction22/09/25 08:16 AM
10

Don't waste money on YouTube dating coaches. Smart guys are using free AI to practice flirting conversations now, for example, role-play sites like Chatvisor. You can run through different scenarios and practice your responses. It’s basically like having a dating coach for $0, and you won’t look like an idiot while learning. Everything in your post is spot on. Not this part though. There's an easier way. Just get on dating sites and chat with easy girls far away. You can be talking to dozens at …
/r/seduction21/09/25 05:12 PM
2

As an opener? I think the fact that you're asking in this group tells us that it's not going to work for you. I have no doubt that it would work for some men in some situation, but those men have absolute confidence in their words. You don't. You'd flinch and the moment you do that, you'd be her bitch to do with as she pleases. I do think that such phrases can work for many people early in a conversation instead of an opener though. I can imagine a casual environmental opener, friendly vibe, tea…
/r/seduction21/09/25 03:34 PM
0

Rejection is part of the game. Nobody has a 100% success rate, but everyone can do better than just sitting there with their thumb up their ass.
/r/seduction21/09/25 09:28 AM
1

But also yes, porn is very damaging. Why do you think that is?
/r/seduction21/09/25 09:26 AM
1

I wonder if men would have the patience for it though. We'd have to compromise from the beginning and then also get them to see the value in it. I think it can be done, but that's a big project for the world.
/r/seduction21/09/25 09:25 AM
1

Looks are necessary but far from sufficient. You need to have a good profile text and good texting game. If they like your picture but not your text, they'll next you. If you get past that but bore her, its over. If you're interesting but can't move it forward, you're gonna get ghosted. If you get the date but don't turn her on, you won't get a second.
/r/seduction21/09/25 08:21 AM
2

I don't need novelty. I value long-term relationships. I like creating better options for myself as I grow though.
/r/seduction20/09/25 04:58 PM
1

From what I understand, some orgasm (whether from sex or masturbation) is healthy and keeps the libido going. Then I think also that many people use porn and masturbation as a coping mechanism since it is a stress reliever. Abstaining can be very stressful for me at first. The second time, which is when I really had more of a transformation, I think I went for about 3 months and it involved a lot of other self-development (accumulated and current at that time). My theory is that maybe some peopl…
/r/seduction20/09/25 02:04 PM
2

Rewarding how? I find it incredibly rewarding. I love the chase. I love developing myself. I love learning how to be better and practicing, pushing my boundaries, netting new kinds of wins.
/r/seduction20/09/25 12:51 PM
1

This is also another way that I think about it but how can one support the idea that porn is actually junk food. There are people claiming it's as healthy as cabbage and chicken. This is the issue.
/r/seduction20/09/25 09:46 AM
1

I like your argument but I've never had that problem. I have no problem not raping or badgering people when they don't want to have sex. 😁
/r/seduction20/09/25 09:29 AM
1

Yes, I find it incredibly difficult and so do thousands of others who post about it constantly on reddit and get called foolish for even trying.
/r/seduction20/09/25 09:10 AM
3

That's interesting. It sounds difficult, but if you could do it then I'd be rather impressed by your self-control. Developing that kind of mastery probably transfers over to many areas of life as well.
/r/seduction20/09/25 08:41 AM
1

I think that's a very good argument. What percentage of porn users do you think are addicted? I'm currently ignorant of that. Gonna look it up in a second. Okay, I asked two different LLMs and they gave the same answer. It depends on how you measure. If you go by clinical statistics, then of porn users 5-10% have a serious problem. If you go by self-report, then between 10-20% say they have a serious problem. Both say that about 80% of men use porn. I think these questions are different than wha…
/r/seduction20/09/25 08:29 AM
1

Thank you for your input, the first well-reasoned opposition. What if you're an outlier? How do you know influences and social media are the problem? Also, I need to know what you mean by social media. I think participating in certain types of forums and applying social skills and game have helped me in real life. I realized that for most of my life I had been using social media wrong and being very anti-social on such platforms.
/r/seduction20/09/25 08:00 AM
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You're a woman writing? Thank you for your input. I think those are good points. Do you think that would be different if porn had serious stories and courtship? I could imagine that being beneficial and negating some of my ideas.
/r/seduction20/09/25 07:46 AM
4

Okay, so you had the inverse effect. That's really interesting. I wonder what the difference between us is.
/r/seduction20/09/25 07:44 AM
1

Why do you think urbanization plays a role?
/r/seduction20/09/25 07:43 AM
3

It sounds exactly like me. I was also very insecure with anger problems that lost me relationships, yet I was a successful serial monogamist. I could never get anything done in the street or bars until recently though. How much was he pulling? What are you judging to be successful?
/r/seduction19/09/25 10:08 PM
3

it was easy to provoke him into a rage outburst and girls did that to play mind games with him. Holy shit, that part actually surprises me. You'd think they'd detect it earlier. Was that guy also very comfortable around women? I think the people who do worst around women are the ones who are nervous. The people who do best are the ones who are just completely at home and can be themselves, you know?
/r/seduction19/09/25 09:49 PM
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Nah man, it has nothing to do with that. It's because he has no idea what he's doing, even when women are right in front of his face flirting with him. Attraction from women is mainly from behavior, looks are just a plus.
/r/seduction19/09/25 07:48 PM
1

I would say low confidence and comfort is a lack of game though, in my use of the word. So that's part of what I meant. Like I would say everything RSD Tyler taught in Blueprint Decoded is "inner game" and that's the kind of thing both of our friends need and would slay with...
/r/seduction19/09/25 06:49 PM
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Yeah, I'm not convinced. I have a friend who's like a male model and a good life yet he gets fewer matches on Tinder than I do. Game matters. Don't listen to the blackpillers.
/r/seduction19/09/25 06:27 PM
1

Obviously. The point of game to increase her interest in you. How is this post trending.
/r/seduction19/09/25 06:25 PM
26

Small steps is the way to go. I used to be like you.
/r/seduction15/09/25 12:08 PM
19

This is the way.
/r/seduction15/09/25 12:08 PM
1

Yeah, so there's a couple of different ways to do it. One is where you're just talking about things you like. Like if your conversations all like "How's your day going?" you can make your part really descriptive, like talking about how you just had this amazing cappuccino from this new place you found and how the baristas there are so friendly. Maybe at some other point mention that you're going to go out to this bar with some friends on the weekend or hike this trail or whatever. Talk about the…
/r/seduction14/09/25 02:24 PM
1

What I would have done is first seeded some date ideas and various ideas (like talked about what each of you like to do) before asking her out first. Then if she doesn't respond, what I might do is wait two days and just say "Hey." and start a new conversation about different things and do the same thing again. People get busy or get uncomfortable with certain things at certain times, so it's good to understand that and give them a chance. There's nothing wrong with a little bit of persistence.
/r/seduction14/09/25 02:13 PM
1

I'm for sure gonna try next time when I have more time. Well, at least I'll die in style! Wish me luck. 😉
/r/seduction13/09/25 10:52 AM
0

If you're not interested after poor behavior, be honest or ghost her. Never block. Some girls will come around way the fuck later (sometimes years later in one case of mine.)
/r/seduction13/09/25 12:51 AM
1

It's not attraction, it's comfort. She wouldn't have even fucked with the dude if there was not attraction.
/r/seduction13/09/25 12:49 AM
3

Worst advice in this thread.
/r/seduction13/09/25 12:49 AM
1

I agree with you completely but on the other hand, it really shouldn't be this fucking difficult.
/r/seduction13/09/25 12:46 AM
1

So what if they don't. Block them.
/r/seduction13/09/25 12:41 AM
2

Exactly.
/r/seduction13/09/25 12:38 AM
2

No, it's definitely not just that. I know all of that very well and I'm far from him.
/r/seduction13/09/25 12:01 AM
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Literally, yeah it was like that. 50+ year old woman in all black hijab with her peers in the room and still drooling over him. My mind was blown. Shit can happen. I wonder what the secret sauce is though.
/r/seduction12/09/25 08:52 PM
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From the beginning, start with a hug if it feels right. Then just a little bit here and there if it's appropriate. For example, gently touching her back guiding her to the kitchen like it's no big deal. The idea is to get her (and you) comfortable, so building up gradually with small meaningless touches is the way to go. No big gambits. When it comes time for more, then it's much easier by that point, a much smaller step.
/r/seduction11/09/25 03:53 PM
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I agree with this. Even the other best tip here "tease" falls under this category and explains why teasing doesn't work for some people sometimes (because they're doing it and still coming off as needy so it just seems fake/gamey).
/r/seduction10/09/25 07:21 PM
2

What country?
/r/seduction08/09/25 07:19 PM
3

I feel like this post is just complaining. It sounds jealous. There's no point in focusing on this kind of shit, even if it were true. You accept what you have to work with and do your best with that. Wallowing in self-pity and obsessing about what you don't have is just putting up roadblocks. It's borderline incel behavior. Lean into the lot you were given and take responsibility for everything you have control over and focus on that instead. Let go of everything else. The bitterness is unhealt…
/r/seduction05/09/25 06:40 PM
5

Have you considered that you can improve your skills and increase your odds significantly? You seem to think these numbers are static and unchanging, but you're not accounting for the possibility of you becoming much better at this over time. You only talk about becoming less afraid, but that's not the only variable.
/r/seduction04/09/25 12:27 AM
2

I agree completely. What do you suggest people do to work on realizing this?
/r/seduction03/09/25 02:24 PM
9

That's true. I just realized I talked to an incredibly hot girl today and it didn't even phase me. (I don't notice my own progress sometimes.) The reason it was no big deal though is that I talk to people constantly nowadays. Now I just need to learn to show a little intent and flirt. I'm on to the next step.
/r/seduction02/09/25 07:45 PM
6

A simpler version is: Go socialize consistently until you succeed.
/r/seduction02/09/25 07:12 PM
1

It got much worse with dating apps. AI will destroy dating apps. People will have to talk to each other again.
/r/seduction02/09/25 12:29 AM
2

Hmm, possible. I think they'll learn as a community with time though, like some men did. Then again, I still have a neighbor talking to spammers and scammers and refuses to listen to anyone about it. Already lost a lot of money.
/r/seduction01/09/25 09:27 PM
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Good. This will open up all kinds of new opportunities. Women will have to look elsewhere for validation, hookups or serious relationships. Maybe we can get rid of the middlemen leeches cockblocking us for a while. Online dating used to be easy as fuck when you could actually talk to people (e.g. oldschool OKCupid, craigslist ads, etc.)
/r/seduction01/09/25 06:40 PM
1

Sounds good, just wanted confirmation. Thank you.
/r/seduction30/08/25 09:06 PM
1

I don't think you can help showing sings of interest when you find someone attractive. It's unconscious. I think almost every woman you find attractive knows it (assuming they're paying attention to their surroundings at all). The same goes for girls. Most IOIs are totally unconscious, just autopilot.
/r/seduction30/08/25 08:50 PM
2

I think that's more likely than a girl being with a guy and lusting over random dudes in the street. Do you stop being attracted to other women when you have a girlfriend? 😂 Also, some girls do it for the validation. I think it's a combination of all four scenarios and we have no way of telling at any given time.
/r/seduction30/08/25 04:31 PM
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Nice comment. I also find groups to be easier, as I said in many other comments, they can help keep the conversation alive and if you get along with them they might even help you with the girl. Just out of curiosity, what kind of thing did you say to express your interest at the botanical gardens?
/r/seduction30/08/25 04:30 PM
5

Are there any of these things for Android? Why are they only for iOS. So annoying.
/r/seduction29/08/25 05:24 PM
1

I think that's good advice in general, but it's off this time. She had a suitcase with her and so I was going to ask her if she'd just gotten back from vacation (like a lot of people right now) with a cheeky smile. I'm confident this would have gone well and easily turn into a conversation about travel which I could then escalate. It wouldn't have worked to tell her I was drawn to her right off the bat, that would have been super cringe in this environment and with that kind of woman. 😁 Zero per…
/r/seduction28/08/25 07:45 PM
5

I don't share that cynical view, although of course it's possible. Maybe that's what happens to you because that's what you expect. I've never had that problem.
/r/seduction28/08/25 04:31 PM
0

We can't know, but it's possible she wants something non-serious like just a hookup or fwb. A movie date is what you're doing when you're going in the serious direction and also it's really hard to have sex there. She might just want to fuck. I'm surprised that's not your interpretation actually. "Quick lunch"... as in another word that starts with "quick"... 😁
/r/seduction28/08/25 04:27 PM
1

I'm clearly platonic to the one that I'm not interested in (although maybe tease her a little or both of them together if it's a really long conversation) and I'm very much not platonic with the other one, starting with eye contact and also focusing on HER day, her plans, that's she's cute, a dork, "I like that about you", whatever. Sorry, I don't know what I say since I don't have a script, but I make a clear difference between the two.
/r/seduction28/08/25 04:21 PM
1

Yeah, exactly. I need something practical that I can do about it though.
/r/seduction28/08/25 04:16 PM
2

Oh, I find that pretty easy, maybe even easier than alone because they help you keep the conversation going sometimes. Approach them like "Hey guys, <insert opener>" (including them both). You can sometimes ping off the friend too, like ask her a question or comment to her about her friend. If you don't snub them, they'll probably even be on your team and help. That's happened a couple of times.
/r/seduction28/08/25 04:13 PM
3

Don't worry about rejection. It'll feel great that you went up to her.
/r/seduction28/08/25 03:35 PM
1

Hmmm, I'm not convinced of that, but I'll stay open minded about it. I don't have enough data right now, but I feel like it's possible at least to some degree.
/r/seduction28/08/25 03:19 PM
2

I dunno man, that's a deep question. I see what you're saying but I do think there's something to presenting yourself in the right way, giving yourself opportunities and figuring out how to create the right vibes and what your goals should even be.
/r/seduction28/08/25 03:10 PM
1

Everything about this comment is right. I haven't done IG specifically but those kinds of strategies are exactly what's worked for me elsewhere online. Don't get your hopes up though, probabilities are low.
/r/seduction28/08/25 02:53 PM
2

That doesn't make any sense in this context.
/r/seduction28/08/25 02:48 PM
1

It really depends on the person. You can't try to think about it like a robot. Everybody's different and has different needs. Some girls are gonna want to meet up right away, others after a lot of texting, others only like how I described before, some with just a couple voice messages. Your goal is to meet up with them, so you're "flirting" with meeting up if you get what I mean. You kind float ideas and see if you get a positive response. If you do you move forward, if not you keep talking and …
/r/seduction27/08/25 09:56 PM
2

Fucking genius. Thank you. That's really helpful actually. I can try that tomorrow. I need a lunch spot. What if it's in a city you know well? Maybe just the same but ask her what her what "the best" place is.
/r/seduction27/08/25 07:49 PM
1

Out of curiosity, what kind of situational openers do you use out on the street? That's a hard one for me.
/r/seduction27/08/25 07:44 PM
1

Yeah, some version of that. It can be anything from a few texts over an afternoon if it's just for hooking up, to two full weeks of talking if it's for a girlfriend. The basic principles are the same though. ETA Actually I would say the middle ground is the most common for me: talking all day one day, culminating in a phone call that evening where the girl falls in love with me by late night. We meet the next day or next week. It doesn't have to be like that, but I think the basic principle of e…
/r/seduction27/08/25 06:24 PM
1

I'm in a similar boat some days, so I can't help you that much but I want to point out one thing: and it was so easy to meet guys and groups and make new friendships I think this is really good that you do that. It's a good way to start your night. If I approach a lot of neutral people first, it gets me warmed up to do real approaches. You get in the mode of talking, get in a social flow and gain some momentum. So don't stop doing that. Approach girls after you've done that. The first day I real…
/r/seduction27/08/25 05:15 PM
3

Assuming that you've already built up attraction (which you should continue to do), then all you need to do is spend time genuinely getting to know her and letting her get to know you. What you do is basically gradually escalate being vulnerable. You tell her a little bit about you and then ask her a little bit about her, then you escalate the intimacy and vulnerability a little bit and keep going like that. This is also the place to find out if you have things in common and build connection. Do…
/r/seduction27/08/25 05:05 PM
4

How do you suggest someone become less needy? Experience? A plenty of fish mindset? Satisfaction in other areas of life? Self-esteem?
/r/seduction27/08/25 02:56 PM
14

I would say that doesn't count. It's easy to build comfort over text in comparison to in one day. I think it's a great accomplishment for you, but not what OP is asking for.
/r/seduction27/08/25 01:31 PM
1

Thanks, yeah. I've been tracking it now and looking for parterns. Gleam. Why are all these social apps only for IOS. 😤
/r/seduction27/08/25 06:30 AM
2

Okay if I PM?
/r/seduction26/08/25 05:32 PM
2

Texting game is a whole different skillset. Just because you're good at daygame doesn't mean you're good at texting. I started the other way around from you. I dominate the shit out of text game, but I've only starting out at daygame. I would suggest that you put at least as much work into it. Get into some kind of online dating (maybe just using Instagram or paid Tinder) to really get in high volume practice and watch a lot of content on it in the meantime. Playing with Fire and The Single guy …
/r/seduction26/08/25 01:18 PM
2

Wow, so, those articles and your comment really put me at ease. I had crazy expectations. Everything is going normal for me and I'm only failing a little bit. What a relief.
/r/seduction25/08/25 10:31 PM
1

Thank you. I appreciate you taking the time. I'll have a look at these resources. It makes me feel better that you mentioned it can be slow even in major cities. I'm doing a couple different cities of 50k and it seems like I'm getting about one opportunity every hour or two, unless I was to go outside of my preferences or totally out of my league (for now). I wouldn’t bother with shopkeepers and randoms unless it really suits your personality. It helps me warm-up, A LOT. I need this. I recommend…
/r/seduction25/08/25 10:11 PM
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I think Mystery Method is important as a historical document and getting some basics but do not take it literally. A lot of people have improved upon it since then. In fact, a large part of the industry are arguing against it or just ripping it off and mutating it in some ways. Models is great, but look at RSD's Foundations and Blueprint Decoded as well, the latter of which influenced Models somewhat. Also, on YouTube, for super practical advice look at Coach Kyle. I also recommend Dan Bacon on …
/r/seduction25/08/25 09:01 PM
3

Look up cocky funny. I naturally do that a lot for some reason.
/r/seduction25/08/25 06:56 PM
2

Just tell him. What is wrong with girls? 😁
/r/seduction25/08/25 02:29 PM
2

I mean dude I am SO much happier and more rooted in myself. You're crazy. 😁 This is the fucking way bro.
/r/seduction25/08/25 11:26 AM
2

That's crazy, how much did you do and how long did it take? I've been working on my social skills, social anxiety, dating skills and stuff for over 2-3 years now, practicing mostly online first then doing cold approach lately. How many did you do a day? How many times per week? Do you try to talk to everyone you meet?
/r/seduction25/08/25 11:24 AM
1

Is this on Android? I'm not finding it. Can you link us?
/r/seduction24/08/25 09:04 AM
2

Yoga class... damn this is smart in general looking up any kind of classes and passing by after. Yoga class specifically, that'd take some balls though. 😂 There wasn't anybody in the park yesterday (Saturday) despite the good weather though. That's the thing I don't get. Like I must be at the wrong time or everyone was somewhere else for some reason? Makes no sense.
/r/seduction24/08/25 09:01 AM
6

Talk to absolutely everyone you meet and it will make it much easier to talk to attractive women when they come up. Yesterday I spoke to... the girl who works in the perfume store, a woman in a hat store, a barista in a cafe, a girl in another perfume store, the mall security guard, a guy with a puppy, the bus driver, a girl who was freezing her ass off... and none of those were with the intention of pick up the person... but they all did help prepare me for the German girl who I actually DID hi…
/r/seduction24/08/25 08:57 AM
9

Cold approach is a humiliation ritual for most guys You get over it. Come on, stop being such a fucking pussy. Our fathers went to war and worked in coal mins, and you can't get rejected in front of some people? To be honest, I consider my rejections total successes, because my standard is whether I approached and did my best or not, not whether I stuck it in. This is how you need to think. Also, you get desensitized to it completely. I've had three really harsh rejections lately, all three in p…
/r/seduction24/08/25 08:52 AM
9

No this is wrong. I'm also awkward and autistic but go through my reddit history. Shit gets better and better the more you do. It's harder for us, but you will succeed if you take control of your situation and do the best you can.
/r/seduction24/08/25 08:49 AM
4

Your mistake is thinking that you will always stay the same. If you do this shit and watch content on it, you will improve. Practice makes perfect. Go get yourself a growth mindset.
/r/seduction24/08/25 08:47 AM
2

You're completely right. I can't believe the people disagreeing with you, like it's impossible for me to wrap my head around.
/r/seduction24/08/25 08:47 AM
3

Yeah what is this cliffhanger shit 😁
/r/seduction23/08/25 10:12 PM
1

What? I meant the skill level man. I'm not judging strippers.
/r/seduction23/08/25 10:08 PM
4

How do you people do this shit. I'm so far away from that at this point.
/r/seduction23/08/25 08:26 PM
10

Legit. ☝️
/r/seduction22/08/25 12:40 PM
43

Even as someone who's autistic, you still just have to practice. It does get better. It just takes WAY more work. Trust me, I'm doing it.
/r/seduction20/08/25 06:14 PM
7

This is actually the purpose of flirting. See it as a tool that solves exactly this problem: indicating your interest in her without causing problems by being overt about it. Start slow and see if it's reciprocated. If it is, you gradually, very slowly over time escalate.
/r/seduction14/08/25 06:50 PM
0

Have you ever bothered to look up what the word means before forming an opinion? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flirting
/r/seduction13/08/25 02:27 PM
1

Yeah, I'm saying the article is wrong.
/r/seduction13/08/25 01:59 PM
1

It's more than that. It's also a way of showing your sexual and/or romantic interest in somone without putting much pressure on them.
/r/seduction13/08/25 10:21 AM
4

You gotta be a bit delusional to get started I think. Women are attracted to confidence, so you need it in order to get success. It's a positive feedback loop, similar to capital accumulation. If you have it, you get more of it. If you don't, you get nothing.
/r/seduction06/07/25 06:16 PM
1

You need to build up to it with even more innocent touching. When you meet for the date, start by hugging her. Later on, csually brush your hand against her or play footsie a bit. THEN go for her hand. It should be easier then. The basic idea is to build up gradually. This is better for you but also for her.
/r/seduction29/06/25 08:34 AM
1

Yeah, literally. I've gotten both "What the fuck did you say to her?" (her friend getting angry at me) and today I got "Get away from me" 😂 and I think both of these are way better than that shitty feeling when you don't act. I felt a little embarrassed both times, sure, and I'm a little worried about the consequences sure, but I feel proud that I tried and went for it.
/r/seduction24/04/25 05:19 PM
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