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hi neil, typing this from my girlfriend's bed. just wanted to say thanks.
/r/seduction14/02/12 09:28 PM
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saydrah is just the worst
/r/seduction07/02/12 07:07 PM
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lol. well what can ya do cept type your thoughts and brace for downvotes.
/r/seduction15/12/11 06:52 PM
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Seddit isn't what it used to be. A lot of people here are just as concerned now with seducing women as they are with what the rest of reddit thinks about them... Something I warned them about months ago. The truth is, players gonna play, self-improvers gonna self-improve. This post is just some moral masturbation. TheGamble... you are a very good person and we all think you're just swell for how ya treat ladies!
/r/seduction15/12/11 04:17 PM
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game boy cartridge case
/r/seduction05/11/11 07:26 PM
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This is, coincidentally, roosh's advice for preventing flakes. Attract well, and they will want to see you again.
/r/seduction03/11/11 03:31 AM
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DAMN YOU JUSTINE
/r/seduction02/11/11 04:25 PM
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this one needs moar upvotes
/r/seduction01/11/11 09:29 PM
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3 times. shortest was about 3 hours-ish. it's possible just gotta be in the right place at the right time (with the right skeelzz)
/r/seduction27/10/11 07:22 PM
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you almost always have enough to get the number. girls give numbers out fairly easily. that was one of the bigger surprises of learning game for me. invite the girl out to that beer crawl thing, and try to get pre-selection going fast. It will be easier to get her out for that kind of gathering than some other types... but she will be easy to lose there as well (but better to have her out and on a slim thread than not at all.) worst that can happen is you're seen with a girl and she's the pre-se…
/r/seduction25/10/11 10:26 PM
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yeap. it's good all right. looking forward to seeing where this goes, should be some good stuff.
/r/seduction25/10/11 10:08 PM
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I think part of Manson's whole persona is that he's trying to transcend the whole pickup artist "thing." But rather than offer cheap techniques that basically build off the same thing the others have, he's offering something longer-lasting and blah blah blah. Point is, he's gotta smack the PUA talk a little bit. One thing he does seem to be forgetting is that his journey involved a lot of calibration that he now has embedded in his mind. Now he is free to do what he wants with it. Sometimes peop…
/r/seduction25/10/11 10:01 PM
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hahah no, but youve got the idea. it's Making Time. it kind of moves around from place to place, recently it's been at Voyeur a lot. www.igetrvng.com
/r/seduction29/09/11 04:24 AM
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lol "smell better than yourself"
/r/seduction22/09/11 06:23 AM
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you spelled it right, you're a true philadelphian now. i'll probably be down at the end of the month, the 30th. it's a hipster dance thing if you can tolerate that kind of music. it's been a pretty ripe playground for me in the past.
/r/seduction22/09/11 06:17 AM
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hahah i'm just sayin, we can't all be old spice guys
/r/seduction22/09/11 06:14 AM
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and most importantly, during the process of becoming this man, he doesn't get so damn frustrated when he doesn't achieve this ridiculous perfect goal.
/r/seduction21/09/11 10:31 PM
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it's a shame i work weekends so much... I don't get into the city half as much as I used to, but when I am around I could let you know. Where in Philly are you living?
/r/seduction16/09/11 06:53 PM
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well AMOG is alpha male of group/alpha male other guy, generally signalling a male obstacle for a male "pickup artist." It connotes confrontation, and in thinking of the typical NE philly girl, I am reminded of their borderline masculine pugnacity. it's incredibly unattractive... but I digress. anyway, your area is generally considered NW philly (except maybe glenside) and it is the area of the city with which I am least familiar. manayunk might be your best bet for volume, but it's very college…
/r/seduction09/09/11 08:31 AM
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well i didn't mean textbook as in scripted. And yes, i was assuming you are getting a day 2 'cause we try to be positive, assume attraction, etc... outcome-independent is the way to go though.
/r/seduction08/09/11 11:00 PM
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what other areas in NE philly have tons of bars? also watch out for other girls. NE philly might be one of the few areas that have AFOGs.
/r/seduction08/09/11 10:59 PM
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Just how explicit was this "deal?" from the sounds of it it was too clear-cut. you want her guessing in the beginning, and instead she knew exactly where you stood, removing all mystery. I could be wrong though, you don't give a ton of details. you went to bed the day you met her - how many other times did you go to bed with her? perhaps she saw it as a one-time fling if you only had sex the once. for the record I wouldn't count her out. back off and see what happens. if she really "wanted to se…
/r/seduction08/09/11 08:29 AM
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fair enough
/r/seduction08/09/11 04:08 AM
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well played. textbook even. the way you kept the conversation in motion was great. good luck with your day 2.
/r/seduction08/09/11 04:04 AM
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do you think skateboarders envision themselves at their current skill level or do you think they envision themselves as improving?
/r/seduction08/09/11 03:49 AM
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oh dear. you must be near cottman and frankford. phase 1: wear philadelphia sports attire phase 2: ??? phase 3: profit your biggest problem might be finding a decent guy.
/r/seduction08/09/11 03:47 AM
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this is wonderful. everyone here should be taking a multi-pronged approach to improvement - mind, body etc... meditation is great, i finally started doing it consistently about 2 weeks ago, and today i just felt more alive. A pretty cliche way to put it, but it's all i can think of right now. affirmations CAN backfire though... i'd attempt meditation first. clearing your mind rather than putting more shit in. especially if you have firmly entrenched negative thoughts, they can easily turn agains…
/r/seduction08/09/11 03:42 AM
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hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate
/r/seduction08/09/11 03:38 AM
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well i've said before that you should measure your progress against yourself, not against others. so if it's a huge step for you, it's a huge step period.
/r/seduction08/09/11 03:37 AM
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just don't overdo it lol. when you hear "full" think "fully happy" not "as wide as you can fucking smile"
/r/seduction08/09/11 03:35 AM
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aaaw yiss
/r/seduction26/08/11 03:45 AM
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do you love music? i feel like if 99% of your friends are musicians, then you probably do. maybe you don't, that's whatever. but if you do, and you like surrounding yourself with music and musicians, it just boggles my mind why you wouldn't give an instrument a fair try. and what "kind of person" is in a band? also, you don't need to join a band, you can just play something, whenever.
/r/seduction26/08/11 12:41 AM
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thank you sir
/r/seduction26/08/11 12:25 AM
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well honestly that depends on your wife/girlfriend. If she is uncomfortable with you touching other girls, then that's between you two. gaming is very hard when you've got all the limitations that come with monogamy. but consider it a blessing in disguise - you can really really hone those skills that you CAN get away with. By the time you're out of that relationship (if it indeed does end), you'll have eye contact so strong you'll be leaving puddles in their seats. just make a list of game tech…
/r/seduction26/08/11 12:24 AM
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subtract closes
/r/seduction25/08/11 11:35 PM
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PUA theory is neutral. The study makes the assumption that PUA tactics are inherently sexist and interested in casual sex. You could neg a girl in a club or in a marriage, it can theoretically be equally as effective in either situation. You could isolate a girl to get to know her well and enter a relationship with her. Or you could do it to try and sleep with her. The tactic is neutral. The intention is the determinant variable. This ignorance shows that the researchers lack a fundamental under…
/r/seduction25/08/11 11:35 PM
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question: is there a variant of r/malefashionadvice for broke-ass dudes?
/r/seduction25/08/11 11:32 PM
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Used to read it a lot. I think game-wise his greatest stuff is late 2007- early 2009. Then he started throwing glenn-beck-like diatribes into the mix, as well as borderline beta, reactionary attacks on feminism. Though, to be sure, the brand of feminism he likes to go after is the brand of feminism that is the worst. I just don't get much value from it anymore, but I would definitely still point people to the time period I mentioned above.
/r/seduction25/08/11 11:31 PM
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especially if you night game all the time, it turns into your only acceptable environment to game. I find it "socially acceptable" to do it in bars/clubs now, but daygame is still really weird to me.
/r/seduction25/08/11 11:28 PM
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ALL of them? every single one of them? even it it's 90% or 80%, what the hell are you doing just watching them? You're constantly surrounded by music - pick a guitar or a drum up or something. They will be frustrated if you try to jam with them, but they will most likely be more than happy to teach you in the quiet time. You will pick up basics quickly. (intermediate and advanced is another story). of course with that said, these instruments aren't the things that should be getting you the girls…
/r/seduction25/08/11 11:26 PM
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wow. strikingly similar to conversations we're still having today.
/r/seduction17/08/11 08:02 PM
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her neck is your friend. i like to think of her neck as the tollbooth to her vagina. you can't pass until you've paid enough.
/r/seduction17/08/11 02:28 AM
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NO YOU HAVE READ THE SECRET CODE YOU WILL NEVER BE BAD IN FRONT OF ANY GIRLS, EVER, EVER.
/r/seduction16/08/11 11:49 PM
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There's no reason for anyone to disapprove of 3 dates in 3 days. yes there is. if you are available for that many days in a row to go on dates with her at the drop of a hat, it subcommunicates that you aren't doing much else and have the potential to make her too important in your life, aka creepy/stalker-y/all those things girls get the willies from.
/r/seduction15/08/11 10:01 PM
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well the advice i would give was already given, so i figure'd i'd take the low road and go for a cheap meme-laugh. my badskies. I will attempt to offer my own advice without re-reading the other replies... I met this girl from OKC on Friday at an Italian restaurant Italian restaurant is a bit too much for a first date. puts you more in a provider role, someone who can offer resources rather than emotions/sexytimes/etc... we had a great time, good kino, good banter, negging, etc. Anyway, we end u…
/r/seduction15/08/11 10:01 PM
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3 dates :) in 3 days ಠ_ಠ
/r/seduction15/08/11 06:09 PM
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girls read seduction books and do 100 approaches to seduce him
/r/seduction15/08/11 06:04 AM
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early success, confidence dependent upon one girl or high school/college social circle, girl/social circle falls apart, confidence falls as well.
/r/seduction14/08/11 12:19 AM
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ho-ho! the world's first step-by-step attraction roadmap, eh? not a bad article but hot damn are these guys getting brazen with their marketing and slogans.
/r/seduction13/08/11 07:32 PM
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I would love to see this field tested. Girl: [shouting] I can't believe you think that is okay behavior in a relationship! I cannot BELIEVE it! You are so not the man I thought you were! Guy: ...u mad?
/r/seduction13/08/11 03:34 AM
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did someone say agree and amplify yet? you should agree and amplify. "oh god i know, you're so right. i can barely hold up this drink."
/r/seduction13/08/11 03:19 AM
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i see one of two things going on here: either you've read too much and are expecting too much of yourself (yes, even from asking people what time it is), or you really do need some form of professional help. Honestly, even if you don't absolutely require a psychologist or a therapist, I can't really see it hurting you if you try it out. but from the sounds of it, it seems like there's a good chance you do need some kind of help, so just swallow your pride and get it over with. it's very rare tha…
/r/seduction13/08/11 03:16 AM
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true, but the goal isn't to see moves. it's to feel moves, gain an intuitive sense of what YOU are supposed to do next, not what somebody else is supposed to do. and this is impossible to do when watching someone else.
/r/seduction13/08/11 03:07 AM
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goalposts out months or years ahead of me i have the same problem. the solution is to work on smaller steps that are weeks/days out. not only is this easier and more manageable, but it also breeds confidence since you will actually be getting things done.
/r/seduction13/08/11 03:01 AM
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wisely altered, my friend.
/r/seduction10/08/11 01:28 AM
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given the competition you might be able to pull simply by avoiding the hover-hand
/r/seduction09/08/11 10:44 PM
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the question is... do you got the sack to test it out? are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?
/r/seduction09/08/11 10:43 PM
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many actions are not inherently beta in and of themselves. It often depends on how you do it. I've been out partying and spending time with women for the past five days and I am essentially fucking exhausted. decidedly not beta. in fact, lying about going out again to "keep up appearances" is putting up an alpha front which is, essentially beta. "hey listen i'm fucking exhausted, can we reschedule? how does xxxday sound?" make sure you offer another day so it doesn't look so flakey.
/r/seduction09/08/11 10:41 PM
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figured. I have noticed that GIVING your number works better than trying to GET one - I've been making the mistake of not coupling it with plans though [derp].
/r/seduction05/08/11 11:46 PM
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So your average message is two sentences? 1 hows it going 2 open ended question
/r/seduction05/08/11 10:28 PM
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in regards to the lesson from pt. 1: http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/08/01/conversational-momentum/
/r/seduction05/08/11 03:08 PM
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not in PA. in PA the 4 year rule is for younger than 16, as young as 13. so if you're 13-15 then the 4 year rule is in effect, but 16 and up is fully legal.
/r/seduction05/08/11 02:18 AM
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Plenty of other reddits better suited for this question well, what would those reddits be?
/r/seduction05/08/11 02:14 AM
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be yourself more like make yourself amirite
/r/seduction29/07/11 10:38 AM
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maybe we can throw a hail mary text, just in case
/r/seduction29/07/11 07:56 AM
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yea but don't do that
/r/seduction28/07/11 04:49 AM
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it's fairly simple - if looks matter to men and that all-encompassing "it" is what matters to women, the analogy writes itself: if you married a 10 and she became lazy and obese over the next three years, stopped taking care of herself generally, lowering herself to about a 5-6, would this not affect your attraction? On the flipside, then, if a woman marries a confident man who could have his pick, and over the next three years he becomes a clingy beta whose behavior would repulse all but the mo…
/r/seduction28/07/11 04:40 AM
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did you get her number? you should have gotten her number. you didn't get her number? why didn't you get her number? you have disappointed seddit, and your ancestors, very greatly. the gods of seduction and digital communication shall frown upon this for many millennia. j/k good job (well, mostly j/k)
/r/seduction26/07/11 02:30 AM
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my name is criticalhit, i'm a 20 year old male from vancouver, bc, canada, and i am a recovering average frustrated chump. ftfy a few days ago i picked up the stylelife challenge from my local library with the intention of following it by the letter (that means no skipping ahead, and after today, reading my challenges first thing when i wake up). your determination and (hopefully) persistence are something to be admired much more greatly than any triple-digit lay count. and if you think this pos…
/r/seduction26/07/11 02:27 AM
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Would you stop picking out flaws in my story and try to give me some actual advice? -_- So she's like my best friend, and I tell her everything. I was sort of starting to get feelings for her, but I was starting to think I've probably told her too much to ever be anything more than friends. this smacks of one-itis pretty badly. once you sully your sponginess with emotion, you forever become an emotional sponge, too valuable for a girl to ruin with sex. Anyway, we got drunk together on Friday nig…
/r/seduction26/07/11 01:21 AM
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feedback suggestion: "just fucking approach" in all caps. as i believe roosh has said, if you don't approach, you literally have nothing. if you approach you at least have that small chance, and will eventually stumble into some tang. Eventually. even if by some miracle of science you do not learn from your mistakes and constant approaches, you will, even THEN, continue to blunder your way into strange every once in a while. the most condensed version possible of seduction: phase 1: approach pha…
/r/seduction26/07/11 12:47 AM
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dont forget to update us (me)
/r/seduction26/07/11 12:28 AM
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I lived too much by seduction "rules" btw, I'm really new at this seduction stuff. ಠ_ಠ
/r/seduction25/07/11 10:40 PM
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feels bad man
/r/seduction25/07/11 10:39 PM
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chocolate starfish
/r/seduction25/07/11 10:38 PM
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read mystery's stuff. he was a very strong advocate of "ignore the target" until you know she's noticing you and such. or... are you asking how to go from social to 1-on-1 within a situation? or are you asking how to take your whole GAME from social to 1-on-1... im confused :|
/r/seduction25/07/11 10:04 PM
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well it would be odd if you asked it like THAT. here you go: next time you two are alone, go ahead and escalate sexually. don't be little ms. sex kitten about it, just gentle, standard physical escalation towards sex. If he is serious enough about "taking it slow" to stop you, then he will do so at some point, and re-iterate this desire. then, instead of saying "oh hey, so uh ... why are you taking things so slowly," you put on some puppy dog eyes and a mild cutesy voice and ask "why/why not?" N…
/r/seduction25/07/11 09:47 PM
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i'm confused... normally we men ask such questions about women because their words often belie their intentions and emotions. It does not work the other way around, I believe. when a man says he wants to take things slow, he wants to take things slow. Added bonus: if you ask him WHY, he will probably give you an answer that is equally straightforward. So ask him, not us.
/r/seduction25/07/11 09:19 PM
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this is something that is really hard to fake. there is always a fraction of a second where you show your true inner state, and it's all a girl needs to ascertain your character. the other day i was enjoying some post-sex relaxation when the girl asked me what i was doing tomorrow. i told her and asked why she wanted to know. "just making conversation." "why, what are YOU doing?" "Work, and then I have a date." a second passes, and her head shifts to look up at me. i continue staring at the ceil…
/r/seduction25/07/11 09:16 PM
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it's easier to get feedback if you post the conversations and sometimes even the pics.
/r/seduction25/07/11 08:56 PM
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Most normal women, with any sense of self respect, wouldn’t have made the comments she made during your chat. ... And lo, the women shall be foremost amongst the slut shamers. "BEHOLD," said the LORD of biomechanics, "she shall disguise her wrath in false morality and accusations leveled at promiscuous men, to secure her position and sexual power. She shall insinuate that hook-ups are sought by women of little character! And the men shall laugh, and continue to reap what both they and less close…
/r/seduction25/07/11 08:54 PM
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comfort kiss in venue, foreplay kiss in seduction location comfort kiss - soft, sweet, little tongue... think "church kiss" when you get married. romantic but not sexual foreplay kiss - hot/heavy/etc... pretty self explanatory
/r/seduction24/07/11 01:02 AM
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if at first you don't succeed, lower your standards! I'M KIDDING i think this speaks, in a roundabout way, to the point of remaining present/being in the moment/all that kind of shit. it's hard to be in the moment when you're thinking about 2-5 hours in the future and sexing. the girl's right in front of you but you are distracted by future prospects/logistics. one step at a time is a more manageable and overall better way to handle shit./
/r/seduction23/07/11 11:10 PM
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people are different, i don't see what's so hard about that
/r/seduction23/07/11 11:01 PM
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wisdom
/r/seduction23/07/11 02:49 AM
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well fixing > accepting, but it seems as though it has been a viable option for others.
/r/seduction23/07/11 01:25 AM
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tell him to get the fuck on seddit, he needs to learn how to make the moves
/r/seduction22/07/11 08:42 PM
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Not to be a prick, but what you're doing is pretty fucking annoying." Anyways, I fold and walk with them back. TARGET tries to console me. AAAAAAH this made me rage. don't ever do this, ever. I realize AMOG wasn't really supposed to be taking your girl but if i was trying to game a girl and you cockblocked me with this pussy beta shit.... RAGE. someone said you're hot and cold, but honestly i feel like you're more cold and room temp. especially since such displays of COLD are going to color her …
/r/seduction22/07/11 08:31 PM
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it's classic nub syndrome, they want to be good enough BEFORE they go out, to avoid rejection (which is of course impossible.) that's why a good FR or general seddit post looks at action in retrospect, rather than ask "what do i do" for the future. regardless, this is unlikely to cease anytime soon, and just thank your stars that you're not on The Attraction Forums and that you have a downvote button.
/r/seduction22/07/11 08:22 PM
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do the backs of your hands get sweaty? you can use that as kind of a crutch, at least for early stages.
/r/seduction22/07/11 07:49 PM
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i wish you persistence rather than luck. don't like my own body fix it/learn to love it/both I realized - my life is shit. fix it/learn to love it/both
/r/seduction22/07/11 07:45 PM
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the cornerstone to take away from all of this is that you need to continue leading even after the two of you have become comfortable. depending on what type of relationship you want, lead it that way. but in general, "comfort" is a trap, it makes things easy and familiar. a man who does easy and familiar things is inherently unattractive. she was getting "attached" but so were you (or at the very least "available" and "easily complimenting,") and I feel as though her saying SHE was getting attac…
/r/seduction22/07/11 07:39 PM
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1 - yea, kino when emphasizing a verbal point 2 - DON'T talk explicitly about previous sexual exploits. DO talk implicitly about them 3 - yes escalate properly. but if you escalate "properly" then putting your arm around a girl you just met is like... way way normal. 4 - always assume attraction 5 - YES kino back. a touch from a girl is a nice time to pull, then push. There's a fine line between a girl thinking a guy has game and thinking a guy is a total sleazeball = improper kino is the easies…
/r/seduction22/07/11 07:34 PM
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3, oh, it's a magic number
/r/seduction19/07/11 02:00 AM
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training wheels on bikes are cheesy. but they help some kids a lot
/r/seduction18/07/11 11:59 PM
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it's one thing to be wrong, but to be wrong and not getting laid? well that just brings out the zeal in any afc. it could even drive one to make a username specifically for one argument.
/r/seduction18/07/11 11:56 PM
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successful [opposite of] troll is successful
/r/seduction18/07/11 11:53 PM
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successful troll is successful
/r/seduction18/07/11 11:50 PM
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This time I am going to escalate sooner and smoother (might need advice for the smooth part), and need to kiss her. the reason your first escalation wasnt smooth was because it didn't have a kiss in it. the jagged edges of a kino/escalation progression are smoothed out by action. i can pretty much guarantee that this girl was wondering why you weren't kissing her. now, if she is coming over again, WITH WINE AGAIN, and you don't kiss her, you are absolutely done. an easy way to "pre" kiss is to j…
/r/seduction18/07/11 10:34 PM
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"we should walk up to one these campsites and pretend like we're on our honeymoon." the roleplay is strong in this one
/r/seduction18/07/11 10:07 PM
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this is essentially a non-issue. if you're doing it right you'll be having too much fun, and this won't come up till later post-bang dates. she will already like you enough for it to not be an (immediate) issue.
/r/seduction18/07/11 09:31 PM
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PSA: guys, never, ever break an awesome road trip for a 3rd date
/r/seduction18/07/11 09:29 PM
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cajun is my favorite of all the lovesystems guys. he said something about studying famous sexy guys and how they move, like Jim Morrison, "their movement was poetry." when I can hit that type of movement I can feel the girls noticing me.
/r/seduction18/07/11 09:28 PM
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calibrate - break rapport to create attraction, build rapport to create comfort. too much breaking = youre a dick too much building = friendzone
/r/seduction18/07/11 09:26 PM
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I CANNOT LOOK OF DISAPPROVAL HARD ENOUGH ಠ_ಠ
/r/seduction18/07/11 09:23 PM
1

a long thread indeed - almost a decade old
/r/seduction18/07/11 09:16 PM
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FUCK YEA YOU GOT MY REFERENCE
/r/seduction14/07/11 06:11 AM
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gents this is not what i intended. i believe this is in order: ಠ_ಠ
/r/seduction14/07/11 02:46 AM
5

she has broken your will and tamed you! you are now hers!
/r/seduction14/07/11 02:43 AM
7

well, the great thing about high school girls is that you keep getting older, but they stay the same age. regardless, said age does seem to bring with is levels of vapidity that are reflected in the most terrible television, film, and music of our time. but it's good to know just in case you find one that looks AND acts 21.
/r/seduction14/07/11 01:10 AM
2

"mistake" is probably too strong of a word here. nothing's that clear cut in this situation, but it seems that pulling both sisters to the dance floor may have been... let's say, "a better alternative." the way i see it, dance game is social first and seductive second - fun, THEN sexy. it's as if you approached a mixed set - it's wise to win them socially before you attempt to pluck a target from them. and particularly in a case when you have two 8's ready to grind with you, it's a win-win. even…
/r/seduction14/07/11 12:33 AM
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she was just 17? (if you know what i mean?) at risk of sounding like a complete and utter creep and terrible human being, you may want to check your state's age of consent laws. also, how old are you?
/r/seduction14/07/11 12:25 AM
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i always thought discretion was a tenet of seduction. even as old as MM. the way you're describing it, YOU are still being discreet, and your reputation is doing the work for you. when you are being arrogant/cocky and such you are displaying the behavior of a man who gets his fill, not going out and explicitly stating "hey ladies, i bang a lot of girls. see your friend over there? yea, i banged her!"
/r/seduction14/07/11 12:22 AM
3

hear, hear
/r/seduction14/07/11 12:20 AM
3

amazing. i am just now connecting the dots - discretion is attractive both ways. it's gold, jerry. pride in your ability and prowess should be confined to sexytime.
/r/seduction13/07/11 11:45 PM
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this tale brings a manly tear to my eye. sail the upboats men
/r/seduction13/07/11 11:41 PM
2

wisdom
/r/seduction13/07/11 10:18 PM
3

too true about it being a personality thing. in that regard i have a bit of the same taste - you can go ahead and bang away but no need to a.) wear it on your sleeve/tell everyone (like some kind of jehova's witness of sexual liberation) b.) have other generally distasteful personality traits that seem to go with skankiness (ditziness, actual stupidity, lodness/obnoxiousness, pugnacity, flakiness, gaudy fashion taste... the list goes on.)
/r/seduction13/07/11 09:23 PM
2

she's an opportunist. either enjoy the opportunities, or ditch her because you are looking for something more serious or at the very least consistent.
/r/seduction13/07/11 06:30 PM
1

yes: the stats may be higher if we're talking about girls, since they have a bit of an easier time with it.
/r/seduction13/07/11 06:16 PM
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The real hater of sluts is other women. dear lord i completely forgot about that aspect. it is indeed a powerful one. The closer the female friend, the more of a cock-block she is... even if she's not there. closeness to target = a ugliness = b severity of cockblock = c ab = c
/r/seduction13/07/11 06:15 PM
7

fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu
/r/seduction13/07/11 06:11 PM
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men are confused in this post-pill, post-feminism, post-sex revolution world. they want to have their cake and eat it too - a girl who's not going to be resistant to sex, but she can't be a slut either. essentially they want a girl who is easy to bang for them and only them. anyone who's taken a step back and examined this, even for a second, realizes it's completely retarded and you need to pick one of the other. being that i like sex, and hate waiting for sex, i think i'll go with "sluts." the…
/r/seduction13/07/11 05:18 PM
1

Now, I should reiterate that this is only day 6 of the challenge. Less than 1 week ago I had to choke down my anxiety enough to simply make small talk with people I wasn't attracted to. yea. it doesn't seem impressive on paper, but you need to compare yourself to yourself. and you have changed drastically in a week - drastically is probably not even a powerful enough word. be careful though, at some point you will peak, drop, and plateau for a bit. this part can be harder than the week you just …
/r/seduction13/07/11 04:50 PM
3

it's probably an accurate percentage... seriously. in fact it may be higher than 90%
/r/seduction13/07/11 04:47 PM
3

I drink and play cornhole xD guy just kind of sat there like I was an alien abducting his women. what a wonderfully apt metaphor told her we could get together in like 6 months. unoriginalsin already stole it. i will pirate it from him. indeed, once again I am shocked and elated by the monstrous effectiveness of a newbs first time out. they never read like a first time. I feel like you don't get smacked with bad blowouts and shit till you actually get the ball rolling - then girls start jumping …
/r/seduction13/07/11 04:46 PM
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good. also i think someone else said you are posting a fair amount of FRs - if you're going out and practicing and such, that's really all you can do (once you have your non-seduction shit together. style, fitness, career, etc.)
/r/seduction13/07/11 04:39 PM
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I tend to come off fairly European / metro now, which I feel is my personal style and I'm comfortable with it well then there is no problem. unless, of course, you're not as comfortable as you think. Their guys aren't into education, they aren't interested in international travel, seeing the world... they are happy drinking beer and partying 24/7, living with their girlfriends while not holding a job. in my experience, girls that go for these kind of guys are girls that your kind of guy should n…
/r/seduction13/07/11 04:28 PM
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She said something that I disagreed with, or at least pretended to disagree with, and I began to walk away from her. She grabbed my hand tight and pulled me back towards her. Major IOI. yes, this is the moment where you knew you had her. and that you didn't need to ask for the kiss. and you didn't. good jorb I think I'll call her again. sure why the hell not
/r/seduction13/07/11 04:22 PM
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gotta make a move at some point. start slow and with throwaways, like the random girls tanning. good practice, you probably won't see them again, etc. also you can start easy with them - good mornings/afternoons, etc. this is a funny little thing about seduction - when you start seeing the signals but you still don't have the sack to make a move on them. It will continue to happen. but you gotta start grown' the sack now.
/r/seduction13/07/11 04:15 PM
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the first half/two-thirds of this give good examples of the pros and cons of dance game. fast and powerful, but providing very tenuous connections and commonly attracting attention-whorey types. you did the right thing with the 7.5 though, letting her go when she tries to bring in competition. also good job thinking shit through, an hour drive the next morning may not have been worth it, depending on the sex. abundance all up in this bitch.
/r/seduction13/07/11 04:13 PM
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most likely. i think i read it about a year ago, so i cant say for sure. but this is one of the things i remember from it, so its probably a recurring theme.
/r/seduction12/07/11 03:31 AM
1

the way i see it, "i think you're cute and wanted to say hi" is pretty much as bare bones as it gets - there's nothing sneaky about it, it's no secret back way into her pants. you can't fake the balls it takes to go up to a girl and do that. so if you've got the sack to use it, that's what's really on display, not the "line" itself. I feel like it's going to be a pretty jaded girl who feels that such a blatant display of interest (and of rejection vulnerability) is some sort of "technique." on t…
/r/seduction12/07/11 02:44 AM
2

tpua is once again correct. the way I see it, whatever stupid scuffle they were in was only the superficial surface of the girl's true complaint: "you hate me, im the worst thing that's happened to you, why are you with me?" have you read david dieda's "way of the superior man?" in it he gives the example of a man who is asked to clean the garage, and forgets. his wife becomes upset the next day and so he cleans the garage - but she is still upset. the explanation is that the garage is just the …
/r/seduction12/07/11 02:38 AM
1

now that i think about it, im kind of worried about "the zookeeper" as well.
/r/seduction12/07/11 02:24 AM
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FUCK now they know that "hi" is a word that we use to start a conversation. this can only lead to the startling realization that eventually, we would like to stick our penises inside them! SHIT WHAT NOW
/r/seduction12/07/11 02:24 AM
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some girls are more comfortable giving a hand job to someone they just met than they are saying "im on my period" to someone they just met. it's a possibility.
/r/seduction12/07/11 02:16 AM
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and yet there is still something about it that they don't get, that surprises them. i once had a girl actually say "no" while i was fingering her, right as she was about to reach orgasm. but it was a "no" that sounded like an "oh," and i had a hard time believing that she wanted me to stop. she was glad i didnt, but seemed a bit baffled as to why she'd said it. bitches, man.
/r/seduction12/07/11 02:13 AM
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not nearly as epic as yours but i once extended my hand to a group of 3 girls (as a way of offering to dance.) the first one said no, the second one said no, and the third one said: "take a hint buddy we don't want you here." i felt like... relieved. like she had let me free, "it's ok, you can go now." and it was really funny. i actually laughed and gave her a high five. and i actually like telling people that story. so i guess i see what you mean lol
/r/seduction12/07/11 02:10 AM
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oh lord i hope you didn't think i was calling you one-dimensional. I was moreso curious as to your opinion of the old "hive mind" reaction to certain things, not so much your own character... although it appears that is the answer to my question anyway. I am aware of your reddit-celebrity status but i wasn't sure what your stories entailed. I don't hold back and show my vulnerabilities, not just my strengths. this, i believe, is what may be "end game." that is, seduction without thought, the mos…
/r/seduction12/07/11 02:06 AM
0

fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu
/r/seduction11/07/11 11:52 PM
9

xD
/r/seduction11/07/11 11:43 PM
12

when you're done with the sidebar you will love me
/r/seduction11/07/11 11:38 PM
2

I've known this girl for a couple years now and we're pretty good friends, but I'm also into her too. ಠ_ಠ there's your sign.
/r/seduction11/07/11 11:38 PM
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silk igloo beautiful, man "I don't like to have to tell you more than once." whoa. that's like... a pretty solid no. i'd have retreated from there, thinking I was encroaching upon rape territory. I took the advice the article I had read gave, and disqualified myself as a potential boyfriend. and you did it like a classy gentleman as well. The funniest part was when she said "I can't believe I changed my mind," and I was thinking "I know exactly why you changed your mind, lol." greatness. such an…
/r/seduction11/07/11 11:36 PM
145

it stands for Lread Mthe Rsidebar
/r/seduction11/07/11 11:30 PM
3

Also, How would you protect your girlfriend from getting seduced by other PUAs? well being so preemptively jelly isn't going to do you any favors.
/r/seduction11/07/11 11:27 PM
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at least they're not asking you if you're gay.
/r/seduction11/07/11 11:26 PM
2

so, let me get this straight. this guy was so good at tooling you that you became paralyzed, stuck there almost forced to take it? I'm curious as to why you didn't just walk away. Epic tale of course. Well told. but shit man, why take that from anyone?
/r/seduction11/07/11 11:25 PM
1

i say, bring out a personality. if you've got the sack to do that, it's inherently a bit confident - then you build from there.
/r/seduction11/07/11 11:18 PM
1

depp just has a knack for those outlandish types. i dunno if he is tall enough though :|
/r/seduction11/07/11 11:15 PM
2

it does seem like pool is great for small-medium bar game. pool tables all up in them bitches. i just would caution against "omg pool gets babes" because that type of mindset can be fairly transparent and backfire on you, especially if you're not really that into shooting pool yourself. also just noticed your username... tell me, has reddit been as unkind to you for things such as this This is actually pretty cruel because he knows it wasn't luck, his girlfriend can smell the stench of failure a…
/r/seduction11/07/11 11:12 PM
2

an excuse to internet argue im lawled
/r/seduction11/07/11 11:09 PM
6

i dunno but i vote johnny depp for mystery
/r/seduction11/07/11 10:32 PM
2

it'll fit right in, they won't even need to change the ending - it's already hollywood.
/r/seduction11/07/11 10:31 PM
2

the thing that you happen to be thinking in your head is hardly ever as dumb as you think it is. basically, the only thing that pops into your head that you should never use as an opener/topic is that you currently want to bone the girl. and even then, at the proper time... a+ post, saved.
/r/seduction11/07/11 12:30 PM
3

find something else interesting that you do and build your game off of that instead.
/r/seduction11/07/11 12:27 PM
1

I realized at that point I was about to turn 25 years old and had only been with 4 girls. and you are now ? years old and have been with ? women?
/r/seduction11/07/11 12:25 PM
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average redditor: "pickup is so creepy" "Warlizard is so awesome" ಠ_ಠ
/r/seduction06/07/11 06:42 AM
12

i now imagine that hot girls have some corner of the internet that nobody else knows about, where "bill nye-ing" someone is a common meme akin to being rickrolled or bel-aired
/r/seduction05/07/11 10:04 AM
4

read post went to comment forgot post re-read post MIND BLOWN
/r/seduction04/07/11 09:59 AM
1

the way i look at it, all confidence is the same. you either believe it's all genuine, or you believe it's all fake - either way, the other guy's got the same brand, so what's the big deal? remind "the voice" that since you've probably been a timid pussy most of your life, you need to feel what being a cocky douchebag is like for a little while, so you can settle into a proper middle ground.
/r/seduction04/07/11 09:58 AM
2

3 dates - how long did you have the profile
/r/seduction01/07/11 09:46 PM
1

"get?" k-close, and i got the infamous "im not having sex with you" line while walking her home... it was a day 1 and seriously had told my friends I was coming to the bar soon (she was going in cause she had work the next day). Could i have pushed for an f-close? yea probably. but it was a good, fun date and it's damn near 100% sure for a second. I want to say it's "in the bag," cause I do think it is, but something about that phrase jinxes the shit out of me every time, so ill just say it's no…
/r/seduction01/07/11 09:35 PM
1

so, come online often?
/r/seduction01/07/11 09:12 PM
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i heard a rumor that dudes actually find girls on it, and go out with them irl. just a rumor.
/r/seduction01/07/11 08:24 PM
2

well, when she says "go suck a dick," as a shit test, if it elicits confusion, fluster, or macho overcompensation, i would consider it a failure, and most likely so would she. Instead, I gave what you could call an "alpha" response, I was non-reactive but I still addressed the comment, as it had an "in-your-face" nature that built in a negation of the "just ignore it" option. Now, I wasn't looking at her when I responded, so I could only "feel" how she was looking at me, what she was doing, but …
/r/seduction01/07/11 07:37 PM
2

good article from awhile back noted that stubble is the most attractive type of facial hair on a man. think clooney, depp, pitt, et al. the tl;dr, if i remember the article correctly, was "stubble: manly enough to grow a helluva beard, stylish enough to trim it down."
/r/seduction01/07/11 04:31 PM
0

a-so small...
/r/seduction01/07/11 02:11 PM
8

"I have a boyfriend" is kind of like ending a sentence with "nigga." this is the greatest metaphor ever
/r/seduction01/07/11 08:52 AM
2

xD
/r/seduction01/07/11 08:15 AM
3

all good. I ask cause this just happened to me. I just said "nope" and turned away a little. it worked.
/r/seduction01/07/11 08:11 AM
1

ಠ_ಠ gtfo
/r/seduction01/07/11 08:08 AM
3

one two three four fiiiiiif
/r/seduction01/07/11 08:07 AM
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now that's a bod. i decide to make my way over and say something. normally this would never happen, i would simply acknowledge then ignore andm be aloneee. yes, this is something a certain portion of our former AFC selves should recognize. Even before you know what an IOI is, there is something that makes you jump about eye contact. you know what it means but you can't (or won't) connect the dots in your head, and if you happen to, you certainly won't act on it. It sounds like a joke after readi…
/r/seduction01/07/11 08:06 AM
1

pretty much the only thing they have in common is decent hair and properly fitting clothes. i feel validated.
/r/seduction01/07/11 07:59 AM
2

agreed 100% on the legs. and for the guys here, that's a huge ioi coming from a girl, one that is rarely mentioned in literature but commonly seen in field. one hint that i'd always get, even back when i was a dumbass, is when a girl would rest/lean her head anywhere around my chest/shoulder area (depends on the height difference). Drunkenness often presents a great excuse for girls to do this "absentmindedly." Then depending on his reaction you look up at him and pull your best pretty/puppy dog…
/r/seduction01/07/11 07:56 AM
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do anything, whatever comes to mind, and hold back very little. a girl from another state has little lasting value anyway, so you might as well learn something from her by pushing the limits rather than tiptoe around trying to get her to like you and stay. Of course the work environment complicated things a bit, but don't go into this situation trying to "get her," go into it to learn. her fleeting nature makes her more valuable as a learning tool than a sexual partner.
/r/seduction01/07/11 02:10 AM
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protip - tell girls "you'll be my date for the wedding." don't ask them, tell them.
/r/seduction01/07/11 02:07 AM
12

"go suck a dick"
/r/seduction01/07/11 02:04 AM
3

a general reddit symptom. soundbites, images, and otherwise quick snippets get upvoted to hell while well-thought out arguments and stories get little love. i think if your post is long enough, the reader simply forgets about the upvote button.
/r/seduction30/06/11 09:34 PM
1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcy8bvhewtU
/r/seduction30/06/11 09:33 PM
5

lol i was referring to this but oneitis is when you get hung up on one girl in very early stages and it is not reciprocated. it's usually accompanied by sitting on your hands, waiting for some sign of interest which never comes, until you wait insanely too long and "confess your feelings" in some awkward moment and get the "lets just be friends" speech.
/r/seduction29/06/11 05:10 AM
0

to put it in bruce campbell terms, it's when you don't have "it." people just... seem to know.
/r/seduction29/06/11 04:25 AM
3

no questions whatsoever, just wanted to thank you for the awesome work you do and that I am quite excited about the book.
/r/seduction29/06/11 04:04 AM
2

I'm not so concerned about this one girl. Abundance mentality. But, I'm not completely giving up either. I feel like that second part should normally be implied. that's the difference between real abundance mentality and using abundance mentality as an excuse for escalation anxiety.
/r/seduction27/06/11 10:08 PM
1

did you go through the rigors of getting over approach anxiety, or have you always been comfortable with the approach? if you had to do it the hard way, apply the same principles to the kiss. if not, learn what to look for. this will involve calibration, which involves failure due to both waiting too long and not waiting long enough. as with most of us, you've established a firm understanding of how long is too long, now you need to find out how fast is too fast and bask in the sweet middle grou…
/r/seduction27/06/11 12:54 PM
2

you can pick up smart girls where you pick up other girls. places
/r/seduction27/06/11 12:46 PM
2

Me: I don't want to ask you out if you're drunk. Her: No I'm not that drunk. niccce Her: Well I have my friend with me. Me: [HB] Her: Yes. Me: He's not your boyfriend. Her: No. lol was this guy totally afc-ing his way into the social twilight zone? that mysterious land between wallflower and the wall itself? The past 2 weekends, I found myself "switching up" my game when I see an HB9 or HB10, in the hopes of coming off more sincere, since in my mind, I'm thinking: "Gee, she's actually hot. I don…
/r/seduction27/06/11 12:44 PM
1

HB8 I'm ________ and youre... Me: I'm Chinesepowah somehow i can't help but imagine that you shouted this. IM CHINESEPOWAH! she hasn't texted you back? wait. find more girls. text back later if she is memorable through the others. I am, as usual, impressed by your first showing. something about a first-timer guy finally letting loose and going for it exceeds my expectations of what a floundering new AFC should look like. Also, as usual, you're actual floundering comes at the text/phone/setup pha…
/r/seduction27/06/11 12:30 PM
1

sadly aa.com doesn't show up here as much as it should. he doesn't update a whole lot, surely, but he has plenty of gems in his archives.
/r/seduction27/06/11 12:22 PM
2

stories, calibrating when to quit the funny act, and a side order of kino for the ladies.
/r/seduction27/06/11 12:20 PM
0

yea smart girls ain't attracted to nobody for nothin girrrl powerrr
/r/seduction27/06/11 12:12 PM
1

there was a good approachanxiety.com article about the nature of fear, anxiety, and action. It is a generally widespread misconception that one must overcome fear to act, but the reverse is true - one must act to overcome the fear. You'll always be scared of it if you never do it. any of the "techniques" mentioned can work to soothe any fear but will never kill it completely, and may not even kill the main body of the fear (the part that's stopping you). the closest I'd say that you can come to …
/r/seduction27/06/11 12:09 PM
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protip: friend good contributors so good advice is pretty much highlighted in every thread.
/r/seduction26/06/11 04:08 AM
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hahaha oh man. you may be the only person on seddit who i would recommend to go back to the books and the theory (just for a second). preselection my man, the girl knows another girl let you into her vagina, and you appear to have worked diligently once access was gained. you must have come across as honest for them to believe the story.
/r/seduction26/06/11 03:59 AM
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step 1 - forget about your "age gap" and "lack of relative experience" that's all bullshit, everyone has unique experiences and perspectives. you're not getting shut out because you have limited stories, you're getting shut out because you're not believing in their value. step 2 - talk a little louder, take up a little more space, and gently remind people who cut you off "hold on let me finish real quick," or "hey a-hole i wasn't done yet," or depending on the situation you may want to gracefull…
/r/seduction26/06/11 12:02 AM
3

best answer. hits all the right points - tease, let her know you're kidding but don't SAY you're kidding. sometimes you can even do it with just facial expressions and/or nods. like sometimes i'll shrug and kind of nod like i'm saying "well, yea pretty much." it elicits the same "youre an ass"/arm punch (but i'm actually enjoying this) response.
/r/seduction25/06/11 11:55 PM
1

nothing wrong with mentioning reddit in general, but the crowd of redditors irl could be a serious turn-off. hell im getting shrinkage just thinking of those insufferable bastards.
/r/seduction25/06/11 11:51 PM
2

forever alone
/r/seduction25/06/11 11:51 PM
7

she has sex once a month because she holds out for the most alpha of males? she hates her friends because all girls hate their female friends in one way or another, and her competition is probably more tense (higher status girls). her financial situation is completely dependent upon her looks. 10 = looks = alpha female. DONE
/r/seduction25/06/11 11:49 PM
3

not appearing needy or clingy. kino. the willingness to walk away. quite frankly, you have friends, and you don't need any more.
/r/seduction25/06/11 11:46 PM
1

well in many cases it's better to fake a general attitude from whence verbal gems spring forth than to have stuff planned to say for each type of verbal interaction (impossible). i've said before, routine-based game is for beginners who freeze because they have nothing to say, "natural" game is for beginners who freeze because they can't remember what they had prepared.
/r/seduction25/06/11 11:42 PM
6

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!?! AND HIGH!?!
/r/seduction25/06/11 11:39 PM
2

upvote for proper categorization of the arse grab. open her anyway though, you got very little sack on you if you can't open a girl who just grabbed your ass. plus you can always turn her minimal interest/self-gratification into some genuine attraction.
/r/seduction25/06/11 05:49 AM
2

like i said get in field, look for it. if you are already dancing or in a spot near dancing and she is into you you will see it. normally she will hover for a while then bump if you're not getting the hint. i think a lot of it is subconscious. as a general rule even if you are just standing around in circles talking to friends and there are girls behind you, the one with her back directly to yours is the one most into you. it's an old, hidden Mystery gem. the important thing isn't getting it dow…
/r/seduction25/06/11 05:34 AM
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As we all know having a great smile and nice white teeth can help a lot. As we all know having a great smile and nice white teeth can help. ftfy
/r/seduction25/06/11 04:58 AM
1

yea i was overly rough on her - on purpose though, since your one-itis could be crippling here. like i said worry about getting her in the sack first, then contemplate her short term potential. if there is any then use that to contemplate her long term potential, rinse repeat, etc.
/r/seduction25/06/11 04:57 AM
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you should have never told her about your "feelings." you have some moderate to sever one-itis, i can't really tell how bad it is. if i had to diagnose i'd say it's severe. this girl is playing you, for god knows what, but anyone who's that back and forth is playing you. read the sidebar and see if you can get her in bed. in my limited opinion she doesn't seem to be a worthwhile girl for more than sex. also, she has no other friends? red flagggggg
/r/seduction25/06/11 04:51 AM
1

not really all the time. most of the time they are cool. but they think anything related to sex and gender is a social construct, no biological basis at all, and they get very fundie-esque when it comes to pickup.
/r/seduction25/06/11 04:46 AM
2

but he deleted his account! who amongst males will defend the wimmenz honor on the internet now?
/r/seduction25/06/11 04:17 AM
2

well it's not an ironclad rule, crowded dance floors can lead to bumping. get out in field more, the backturn plus some perhaps-purposeful bumps is something you will start to recognize. essentially you will get a feel for it and be able to tell when it's an accident and when it's an invitation.
/r/seduction25/06/11 04:15 AM
3

aw yea mod hat
/r/seduction25/06/11 04:05 AM
1

the lesser among our sex whine about the approach and the seduction, and the lesser of theirs whine about all of the physical upkeep they are "forced to endure" in our "society." edit: also who requires/asks women to hide the existence of menstruation?
/r/seduction25/06/11 04:04 AM
2

She lives 2,3 hours drive ಠ_ಠ
/r/seduction25/06/11 03:15 AM
1

well there's "mixing things up," and then there's "talking about fossils with creationists."
/r/seduction25/06/11 03:14 AM
1

Saw the standard cure for oneitis (GFTOW), and embraced it. Got out, started meeting girls, #-closes galore, few k-closes even a couple f-closes and one in the works that's a definite lock. (did I mention that I'm a 38 year old widower?) So, guess who calls me yesterday? Yeah, "The One". just like swingers She's great in the sack, so I'd probably throw one at her and send her packing real talk
/r/seduction25/06/11 03:12 AM
1

i see u over there... actin' like... u no me
/r/seduction25/06/11 03:09 AM
2

I said that if she wants to be real, then lets make plans and not give each other our numbers. We setup a date for 7pm on monday, she said that I better not flake! she said that I better not flake! she said scalcave, I...
/r/seduction25/06/11 03:07 AM
1

serious question: why did you post this at 2x? those who want to be understanding of it will, and those who don't aren't going to be changing their minds anytime soon.
/r/seduction25/06/11 03:03 AM
6

if she is in a little circle with her friends and her back is to you, getting a bit close, perhaps even bumping you once, she wants you to dance with her. subtle and indirect but that's how they do it.
/r/seduction25/06/11 02:59 AM
0

ONEITIS lol j/k
/r/seduction25/06/11 02:58 AM
1

lookin' good, ffsnoway! a sad thing about seduction is that when you first start you won't do too good, and the "reference experiences" seem to verify your self-doubts. What you need to do, then, is sack up like our boy here did - it's the only way.
/r/seduction25/06/11 02:55 AM
0

late to the party but: reset your own state nigga
/r/seduction24/06/11 01:22 AM
4

im not so sure about the insta-date with the dog. real wingmen leave when you want to isolate. but that's just the armchair talkin, go test that out. plus, he is a dog. you may want to try a better "excuse" if it doesn't seem to work at first. everything else is good times, go for it. make sure you have treats for your wingman. also take a look at (someone correct me if im wrong here) juggler's book where he talks about "floppsy" the bunny. basically a floppsy is anything that girls are already …
/r/seduction24/06/11 01:19 AM
2

yes, save those questions for important things like double rainbows.
/r/seduction24/06/11 01:05 AM
1

HAY! YOU STAY THE FUCK IN 'MERICA WHEN ITS INDAPENDENCE DAY YHEAR!? sadly i know nothing about montreal. all i can say is that you can use canadian friendliness to your advantage and open like mad.
/r/seduction24/06/11 01:04 AM
3

lolololol he has her "out" already. now he wants to get "in."
/r/seduction24/06/11 01:02 AM
1

i think the question though is moreso "how do i slow down the vibe so the kiss comes more naturally." acceptable question fodder. two things you can do - in old tymey Mystery Method terms you may need to make the transition from "attract" to "comfort" which will lead you into the more "romantic vibe" that you seem to be seeking. Talk about "normal" stuff and qualify her. if you don't know wtf i'm talking about look it up. the other is keep the playful vibe going but make it more sexual. let your…
/r/seduction24/06/11 01:02 AM
9

one is a school of thought, the other one is getting schooled by thoughts droppin knowledge wut
/r/seduction24/06/11 12:49 AM
10

good on you hjsd... fh... good on you, guy
/r/seduction24/06/11 12:48 AM
2

fun fact - if you restrain yourself long enough eventually she will be the one worrying about when to call/initiating texts, etc. well not all of girls are like that, but a good amount of them.
/r/seduction24/06/11 12:47 AM
1

DO IT wait im too late and you did it and it worked nicccccccce. in the future, attempt things without asking seddit and come back when they did/didn't work. if you think someone has something good to say, it's usually going to seem somehow incongruent or unexpected in the conversation and confuse her (in a bad way). here you did what you thought best, we just happened to agree with you. let us know what her bedroom is like.
/r/seduction24/06/11 12:45 AM
2

if a girl says no but is pulling you into her, she isn't saying no. proceed
/r/seduction24/06/11 12:40 AM
3

the best thing about this is that if she turned you down you'd still feel better than if you sat on your hands and did nothing.
/r/seduction24/06/11 12:39 AM
2

happy birthday you magnificent bastard
/r/seduction24/06/11 12:37 AM
1

this really pisses me off because mine is that i don't go out enough. I work nights a lot and sleep in the day. thusly, my chainmail is rusty all around. when im in my groove though, my weak point is definitely getting day 2's, and holding my shit together on said day 2's.
/r/seduction24/06/11 12:36 AM
5

he's wrong that it's impossible for a man who is 5'3" to pick up chicks, but he is also wrong that a 350lb woman can't get a guy to propose to her. well, in america she can at least.
/r/seduction24/06/11 12:31 AM
5

the sad thing is he's wrong about both
/r/seduction23/06/11 10:01 PM
1

loooooooool
/r/seduction21/06/11 06:03 AM
1

I'd like to hear a more pointed criticism, as i'm unsure as to what yours is, and why people are upvoting you. I do like the sweetheart move though.
/r/seduction21/06/11 05:27 AM
1

it reminds me of david dieda's way of the superior man - play with her physically. dance, laugh, push, pull, tickle, tousle, squeeze, etc... the only difference is that he points it out as an effective mood-changer/argument closer (whereas you are pointing out its efficacy in generating attraction. A+ would read again
/r/seduction21/06/11 05:26 AM
8

on any given night going out > OKC > being on seddit/forum of choice p.s.
/r/seduction21/06/11 12:57 AM
2

just act alpha as fuck, even though that's not really who I am. I had her eating out of the palm of my hand, buying my drinks/meals, begging me to hang out during the day, etc. looks like it is who you are now budday
/r/seduction17/06/11 01:07 AM
3

we got broken up by some "friends" ftfy
/r/seduction17/06/11 01:02 AM
1

is this a common phenomena around the globe among all types of girls pretty much. qualification/disqualification and such. I try to squeeze stuff like this in whenever I can.
/r/seduction16/06/11 12:58 PM
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why have a whole subreddit devoted to female seduction? as far as i'm concerned just go make a thread in r/fitness that says "smile more" and you've pretty much covered everything.
/r/seduction16/06/11 12:42 PM
1

I... what...
/r/seduction16/06/11 12:41 PM
2

if you don't consider yourself in the top 25% for attractiveness, I don't recommend bars. im pretty glad i just got the reddit enhancement suite cause now i can do this with great ease: ಠ_ಠ
/r/seduction16/06/11 12:39 PM
2

sometimes learning calibration sucks
/r/seduction16/06/11 12:37 PM
2

feat. William Hung and his Hung Jury
/r/seduction15/06/11 08:06 AM
2

p.s. just read why you hate neil strauss, I lol'd. good thing i found the annihilation method for free, but even then it was still a waste of time :p
/r/seduction15/06/11 02:54 AM
2

What's your opinion on seddit itself - as far as "communities" go? I've lurked "the attraction forums" and found it to be lackluster, but I've not been anywhere else.
/r/seduction15/06/11 02:51 AM
2

check it - this FR is good, great even. Not because of technique but because of running in-head commentary. Essentially this is what your inner game should look like. Also note the attention to outer detail and subsequent usage to create easy conversation. that trivial thing in your head, say it.
/r/seduction15/06/11 12:03 AM
0

the downvotes they make no sense
/r/seduction14/06/11 02:26 AM
5

the question is how do you define "do well?" if you mean get messages and banter well and such, then perhaps. But then if you want to meet them in real life and get them hot, bothered, and in bed... well, you still need real game. If people are defining "doing well" as the former, well, that's their own damn fault, and they're idiots.
/r/seduction13/06/11 11:49 PM
1

which is why, i believe, advice is better coming from here - where the mantra is, "electronic communication is a means simply to facilitate meetings in real life."
/r/seduction13/06/11 11:45 PM
2

indeed. i'd much rather take advice from people here.
/r/seduction13/06/11 11:45 PM
2

i'm not even doing that well with it. but i know nothing's really wrong with the profile, it's all message calibration.
/r/seduction13/06/11 10:19 AM
3

I am probably over thinking this I am over thinking this over thinking
/r/seduction13/06/11 10:01 AM
3

[yea yea yea] fuck you im not changing anything edit: not leavin this up all year round, y'heard
/r/seduction13/06/11 09:59 AM
2

I GET IT! OOOOH NOW I GET IT!
/r/seduction13/06/11 09:58 AM
2

well i would have said, in the past, that you're an idiot. but now I would not say that. check out practicalpickup.com and look out for his new book that he mentions in this post but, as it always comes down to - how's that working for you in the field?
/r/seduction13/06/11 09:47 AM
12

implying the 10s friends aren't like at least 7s
/r/seduction13/06/11 09:44 AM
1

meet her eyes, smile, gauge reaction, calibrate. find another girl. repeat millions of times. trust me I've done this in the past and it's not as magical as you may think it is - well... it is now, that you've got the size and style of your smirk nice and sexy. I am in no way disagreeing here, in fact I may praise the calibrated smirk even highter than you have if I can. But the uncalibrated smile isn't going to do this. It's probably not going to hurt, but it won't have that "give HER the AA" e…
/r/seduction13/06/11 09:42 AM
2

Well just by reading the title I'd guess yes... eh, yea but not by much... There are ways to "heat it up" without escalating directly. Like, you keep making out and doing things with her tits, but you just get a little more wild and into it than you were before. Rub/squeeze/caress anywhere she'll let you. get closer to the promised land slowly. all told, 2 attempts is not that many. But barring any AFC blunders not included here, you should be good to go for next time.
/r/seduction13/06/11 06:46 AM
2

After ten years you will be a seasoned sailor and have good stories. Women love a man in uniform. You will be physically fit due to military training. You will have seen the world. pretty big silver lining i'd say.
/r/seduction13/06/11 06:42 AM
4

The seduction community can really mess you up and actually make you worse than when you began (Old routines and rigidly sticking to the words of outdated writings of) the seduction community can really mess you up and actually make you worse than when you began. yea that's what you meant, right? p.s. You really think analyzing the value of statements and stories mid-conversation is any better than "thinking of what to say next?" It's probably sound theory, I will give you that, but can be just …
/r/seduction13/06/11 06:16 AM
2

OPEN
/r/seduction13/06/11 06:09 AM
1

because i just found out what [FR] stands for. uber noob indeed. otherwise... not soo noobish. Seems like you're kind of willy-nilly all over the place with this stuff, like you're not paying attention, or analyzing so much after the fact. Not like that's terrible or anything, just sayin'. you hit on a good point at the end that I was sort of thinking about already throughout your whole FR(s), that is "how average getting with girls can be." Too true, at least it should be average, and a lot of …
/r/seduction13/06/11 06:07 AM
1

brb changing my name to chumpsta
/r/seduction13/06/11 05:59 AM
6

where to go from here: cook food for him and give him lots of blowjobs. pray that he does not keep telling you about his feelings so much and kill the attraction. ??? profit
/r/seduction13/06/11 05:58 AM
1

morbid as hell. possibly useful in comfort if you're giving her the old "emotional rollercoaster" ... but even then?
/r/seduction13/06/11 05:55 AM
3

At the bar, our legs rest against each other. much like the "girl with her back turned to you is the most attracted to you," this little gem is another one I notice in field all the time, hugely neglected in the literature. good fr otherwise. hopefully she dumps the other guy before continuing with you, and barring that, hopefully he never finds out... and barring that, hopefully you can kick his ass.
/r/seduction13/06/11 05:48 AM
3

nice to see the lurk police in seddit all the time.
/r/seduction13/06/11 05:44 AM
2

your biggest problem is going to be isolation... unless everyone's dtf in front of each other. Handle your liquor. Make sure they don't drink too much that they can't handle (or it will be an unexciting orgy of care-taking rather than sex). you sound young? play truth or dare? or invent some game with kino in it... i dunno. have fun! p.s. upvote for hilariously curt and to-the-point distillation of the beginning phases of a seduction.
/r/seduction13/06/11 05:42 AM
5

til there is a good chance that in any given crowd a high percentage of people will know the words to "let's get down to business" from mulan. interesting note... is music game the new dance game? brb startin a drum circle, gettin' tribal.
/r/seduction13/06/11 05:39 AM
3

How long have you been doing this for (that is, reading this stuff and attempting to apply it?) This sounds like one of those awesome beginner nights that kind of blows your frame wide open and allows you to realize what you are potentially capable of. Your mistakes have been pointed out already, the wild and complete AFC turn around you had with the 9 (this could be a case study in "he was so hot till he ______), and the fact that you porked a girl as low as a 2. Perhaps alcohol is your excuse …
/r/seduction13/06/11 05:36 AM
8

i can't help myself... every time the issue comes up I have to say it... Why not just drop the HB entirely? it adds nothing. She's a 2. the other one's a 9. None of the message is lost. got two nines? ones asian9 and ones white9. or blonde9/brunette9. or whatever. sorry, like i said i can't help it.
/r/seduction13/06/11 05:33 AM
2

arent you too dumb to learn pickup? does your brain even work?
/r/seduction12/06/11 09:54 PM
25

negative, fail is not approaching at all. the only way to lose is to not play. your openers are a little stilted and you're probably not delivering them right. You are going to get rejected a lot more than 15 times in the future so get used to it.
/r/seduction12/06/11 08:47 AM
2

not this time buddy
/r/seduction10/06/11 09:22 AM
50

Was I expecting her to call? Not really. But she did. *wipes tear from eye but for reals. what did she say lol?
/r/seduction10/06/11 08:49 AM
3

ladies and gentlemen the moral lurk-police, let's give him a hand!
/r/seduction10/06/11 08:46 AM
5

I am VERY active in malefashionadvice and malehairadvice first of all, this is at LEAST 50% of a guy's looks anyway - good on you. secondly, I wish to shower you with kisses for telling me about malehairadvice... uh, manly, hetero man-kisses of course.
/r/seduction10/06/11 08:45 AM
2

we did a "what does seddit look like" thread a several months ago. people be leery about posting pictures of themself online, brah.
/r/seduction10/06/11 08:43 AM
2

I tell HB8 she looks nice, but would look way better with a bow tie on. So I grab one of my bow ties, start tying it around her neck. I AM IN LOVE WITH THIS
/r/seduction10/06/11 08:42 AM
9

real laughter was produced. I'm so glad I'm at work and security was 6 feet away.
/r/seduction10/06/11 08:41 AM
2

it's safe to say, it's well over 9000
/r/seduction10/06/11 08:39 AM
3

social proof, adventure, intrigue, leading, dancing, fun... It wasn't the heiney that got this man laid. And this man was definitely laid HARD.
/r/seduction10/06/11 07:36 AM
1

so how many did you go through before you snagged this one? genuinely curious, I've juyst opened an okc and I'm asking this in most of the threads dealing with it. I can always pinpoint, at the very least in retrospect, what I do wrong in IRL pickups. but the okc thing has no feedback really, it's difficult to tell what you're doing wrong/right. That and it's just a fickle situation in general. I realize my ratios are going to be lower from it but I'm trying to piece together as complete a pictu…
/r/seduction10/06/11 07:28 AM
1

well my "field" tests indicate (for me anyway) that going for the date that fast results in some pretty spectacular blowouts. i dunno though. one thing is for damn sure, online dating is certainly a "supplement" to regular game, and will always be only a supplement.
/r/seduction08/06/11 09:42 PM
1

leavin' me hangin' bro. LEAVIN ME HANGIN' the trouble I'm having here isn't getting messages or banter or whatever, it's escalating it into numbers and meets and what have you. I keep fizzling or getting stuck in some loop with a stupid inside joke I made as banter. I feel like escalation is very hard without kino and the ability to physically lead. what type of messages, if any, are going to make a girl think "i need to meet this guy irl?"
/r/seduction08/06/11 07:29 PM
3

Don't theorize, be-orize lol. very true though.
/r/seduction07/06/11 11:51 PM
4

you're a beta male I can tell, you don't have confidence and you don't have many women in your life.
/r/seduction06/06/11 10:53 PM
3

step 1: find the humor in your title. seriously... real laughter was produced.
/r/seduction06/06/11 07:58 AM
1

focus on your messages instead
/r/seduction05/06/11 01:56 AM
9

im also a big fan of this one
/r/seduction05/06/11 01:54 AM
1

i agree, i was just wondering
/r/seduction04/06/11 08:33 PM
1

just as whiny and bitchy as 2x. possibly more so.
/r/seduction04/06/11 06:16 AM
1

quick question, how much fail and unresponsiveness are you slogging through to get to this? I just opened aan account and my ratio is plummeting fast. Do you always open on IM?
/r/seduction04/06/11 03:59 AM
1

This must be how girls feel when approached in the same manner over and over again.
/r/seduction04/06/11 02:59 AM
2

"Get your head out of your ass. Stop making excuses. Keep improving yourself."
/r/seduction03/06/11 11:38 PM
1

pretty much what I was looking for. how's that work out % wise?
/r/seduction03/06/11 11:01 PM
3

also if something terrible has happened to you, such as you live with your parents and they decided to move into the suburbs, much farther away from hot young babes...
/r/seduction03/06/11 10:55 PM
2

a winner is you
/r/seduction03/06/11 10:54 PM
1

I just started on OKC too. The problem I am coming across is how to "escalate." It appears that many of these girls are just there to casually chat and not meet up, or whatever. I think good calibration is going to wind up with a way different timeline than calibration IRL. your first exchange is definitely better. Honestly, do you have any tips for getting #'s from convos that ARE going well? lol
/r/seduction03/06/11 04:09 PM
2

need to put that phrase on a joseph ducreax painting
/r/seduction03/06/11 04:04 PM
13

you hold the absurd assumption that fratboys and clubbers and rockstars are the only men who lay tasty women
/r/seduction01/06/11 05:19 AM
2

doesn't work for all boners, but most boners.
/r/seduction31/05/11 03:03 PM
5

dickflip. pull your dick up so your belt/waistband is holding it. she can probably still feel it but its not as obvious anymore. it will feel better for both of you
/r/seduction31/05/11 05:35 AM
2

ive said it before and ill say it again nigga please
/r/seduction30/05/11 09:34 PM
3

hey, even if you're annoying you're entertaining for the ladies. "omg remember that guy asking about who lies more, men or women, what a creeeeper."
/r/seduction30/05/11 05:52 AM
2

it still sucks kind of, getting blown out. but it is a minor suck, and not even the type of suck you'd expect. you'll see what i mean tomorrow
/r/seduction30/05/11 05:51 AM
3

the fail was that i didn't push further
/r/seduction30/05/11 05:49 AM
2

the word "isolate" seriously popped in my head, like twice. I was basically thinking WHATEV BRO I GOT THIS, IMMA DO IT WHEN I FEEL LIKE IT... I had very easily forgotten just how tiny the windows can be. It wasn't an anxiety thing so much as it was a calibration thing.
/r/seduction30/05/11 05:49 AM
2

better than a bootcamp cheaper than a bootcamp ...
/r/seduction30/05/11 02:46 AM
6

*MDMA
/r/seduction30/05/11 02:31 AM
1

you can always walk away and find another one
/r/seduction30/05/11 02:30 AM
3

man talk
/r/seduction30/05/11 02:03 AM
3

rejection isnt as bad as projected rejection. You would laugh it off like I did if you had enough real rejection, it's imaginary rejection that's "serious business."
/r/seduction30/05/11 02:01 AM
1

well sometimes successes can seem out of the ordinary... I've read very few that seem like whole fabrications, but I can see how some may seem that way. In the end, it doesn't matter too much - unless you're basing your views on women/seduction entirely on FRs from seddit, the clowns who make up stories are only hurting themselves. plus, a lot of us don't want to come out and write about our fails. I had a golden opportunity slip through my fingers last night and im not really looking forward to…
/r/seduction29/05/11 12:19 AM
5

balance - not too shy, not too attention-seeking. Not so goody-goody that I can't take you to bed, not so whorish that I can't take you to see mom (unless youre looking for a one-nighter) you have the right attitude - you are not ugly. own what you have... but be realistic about it as well. don't let you handles hang out from under your shirt and such... but quite frankly, cleavage goes a very long way for larger women. and speaking of larger women, I think they may be the most able to benefit f…
/r/seduction27/05/11 07:23 AM
3

well since you felt pressured by chef girl and clerk, the alpha/dhv thing would be to just stand there talking to yoga girl, all "i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-these-chumps-want-me-to-keep-moving." lo, it was anxiety, rearing one of its many heads once more, the cursed hydra of our psyches. Incredibly interesting how the ego can twist pickup methods into something to protect itself from harm once more. Happens to me all the time. but really it's nothing you don't already know. you've got the grasp of th…
/r/seduction27/05/11 07:13 AM
1

I am not trying to come off as cocky try coming off as cocky. your dick is fine. own your ethnicity. each one has positive and negative stereotypes.
/r/seduction27/05/11 01:48 AM
1

sometimes i forget that clicking upvote over and over again doesn't add more than one
/r/seduction26/05/11 11:55 PM
1

critical mass bout to go fukushima up in a jawn
/r/seduction26/05/11 11:49 PM
1

it happens to women... who date other women.
/r/seduction26/05/11 11:23 PM
3

well, you know what i mean, people who confuse proper alpha for total douche
/r/seduction26/05/11 10:00 PM
6

on the other hand there's ultra-alpha bros who wouldn't have apologized and blown themselves out on the other end. i believe the word is "calibration"
/r/seduction26/05/11 08:43 PM
4

maybe even mother of my babies :| razqel is right, you are too invested in this. having the concepts of "wife" and "mother" (of your children) cross your mind in relation to one particular girl in such an early stage is essentially shooting yourself in the foot. I can't really tell you what it is 'cause I don't know, but girls can smell that on you. She will smell that on you and run. Get rid of that attitude and half the battle is won - then you can treat her like a normal girl and seduce prope…
/r/seduction26/05/11 08:38 PM
11

overall net message: the_kitten is either the old spice guy, the most interesting man in the world, OR BOTH
/r/seduction26/05/11 04:26 AM
3

INTERNET SUPERHERO AWAAAAAAAAAY
/r/seduction26/05/11 01:12 AM
2

leagues seem to be similar here. i can see you two walking down the street together, and i doubt i'd think "oh she's got more points than him."
/r/seduction25/05/11 11:22 PM
2

you were either to fast or too low. possibly both. I still get whats here and there. takes a little time. one thing that's helped me, I shit you not, is going OOOOOOOOOOH like at the end of this video
/r/seduction25/05/11 11:19 PM
3

you can always leave though. you may not enter the sex zone, but you can walk out into the "stop hanging out entirely" zone. This can reset her perception sometimes.
/r/seduction25/05/11 11:07 PM
1

I like this guy's style. past 3 articles i've seen by him have been pretty darn good. especially like the white zinfandel text.
/r/seduction25/05/11 11:03 PM
2

if you cant beat em join em
/r/seduction25/05/11 11:00 PM
-2

ell oh ell
/r/seduction24/05/11 07:03 AM
1

just play dont stop believin'. ive been playing guitar for 10 years, i learned everything that will help me with chicks 9 years ago.
/r/seduction24/05/11 05:50 AM
3

I didn't even kino properly, her cousin being on the other side of the table watching us, and I could tell she wasn't comfortable. you calibrated for the situation - so you technically did kino properly
/r/seduction23/05/11 02:25 PM
4

hey man im sure the straight women of 2x have a lot of experience with lmr and know exactly what theyre talking about
/r/seduction23/05/11 06:42 AM
6

serious social anxiety im not 100% sure of this, and im not near my harddrives right now, but i think it's in a book from that guy "sixty years of challenge," where he talks about why it's so hard to do that first set or whatever. Sure there is some inherent social anxiety but you've been avoiding social shit all day, making it worse. "nah I wont ask that guy where the rice aisle is, he's busy" "oh she forgot my sweet and sour sauce, oh well im not going to ask again." my favorite is when you're…
/r/seduction22/05/11 05:22 AM
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its weird, you know... "trying" to be a part of the party isn't really going to cut it. You kind of just DO it. of course as advice that's next to useless... let go, be fun, dance, yadda yadda. but most importantly, that thing that just popped into your head that you were thinking about saying? just say it. That thing you were thinking about doing, just do it. Unless it's completely out of line - don't go completely overboard. but if it's something a little more brazen than you'd normally do, do…
/r/seduction22/05/11 04:58 AM
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highly
/r/seduction22/05/11 04:53 AM
1

dancing works best as pre-isolation attraction.
/r/seduction22/05/11 01:45 AM
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but your thoughts influence your actions! in fact they almost wholly dictate them.
/r/seduction22/05/11 01:37 AM
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danke edit: damn i made more mistakes than I thought! this is either really disappointing or highly motivating.
/r/seduction22/05/11 01:37 AM
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"The best judge you're going to have is going to be your own intuition" good i can stop reading then. only half joking - the article is pretty decent.
/r/seduction21/05/11 11:12 PM
1

make sure you get a boss haircut while you're at it.
/r/seduction21/05/11 11:11 PM
1

1 day-ish
/r/seduction21/05/11 11:10 PM
2

and thoughts. don't forget thoughts.
/r/seduction21/05/11 11:10 PM
1

one good way to initiate kino is to not put yourself in a position like watching a movie where it makes both kino and conversation harder. kino is king but it really really helps to have a layer of verbal SOMETHING laid over top of it, "disguising" it.
/r/seduction21/05/11 12:43 AM
1

you dont escalate man, you havent even opened yet. you open!
/r/seduction20/05/11 11:38 PM
2

hey where's that harvard psychologist at
/r/seduction20/05/11 11:33 PM
1

they call themselves "neo-hippies" in this day and age. they shower and shave. and they still sex. life is good.
/r/seduction18/05/11 08:29 PM
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came for the bitches, stayed for the growth
/r/seduction18/05/11 07:53 PM
3

this article does have a certain Sheen to it...
/r/seduction18/05/11 04:22 AM
2

well i wouldn't say "fucking hippie" or suggest that he dress differently. the clothes don't make the man son, it's the other way around. plus, what if he's got his sights on hippie chicks? +points.
/r/seduction18/05/11 01:45 AM
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if i saw someone wearin that id think they smoke bones not pole
/r/seduction18/05/11 01:34 AM
2

aren't manipulative pricks on purpose ftfy
/r/seduction18/05/11 12:34 AM
3

have you all forgotten the proper way to take a compliment? "thanks."
/r/seduction18/05/11 12:33 AM
2

harvard psychology degree, please
/r/seduction18/05/11 12:32 AM
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I'm not a sedditor YOU ARE NOW. read the sidebar.
/r/seduction18/05/11 12:25 AM
2

opps my bad
/r/seduction18/05/11 12:21 AM
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yea i know. as an intellectual argument it won't "win" especially in a PC world. of course, this hardly matters as any man can take it to the streets and see, it's quite true.
/r/seduction17/05/11 11:26 PM
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don't people think this is misogynistic? like, the man has to be less invested than the woman so that he has more power, and that then the man has more power, that makes for better relationships? and aren't people so stupid?
/r/seduction17/05/11 11:22 PM
1

where is that "talk to everyone" post at!?
/r/seduction17/05/11 11:20 PM
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semantically i'd say its the difference between knowledge and information. knowledge is useful and contextualized by experience, and you cannot have to much of it. information is words, ideas, abstracts that have a loose connection with experience but it is not firm. this you can have "too much of." but even then, it's not so bad to have too much of it. the only issue is whether or not you're at least TRYING to contextualize it.
/r/seduction17/05/11 11:17 PM
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i... um... disagree with that harvard psychologist? these paragraphs deal with winning the approval of an entire social group. there is no mention whatsoever of sexual anything. this is exactly what unpopular children tend to do: they push their way into a group, trying to change the subject too abruptly or too soon, or offering their own opinions, or simply disagreeing with others right away - all apparent attempts to draw attention to themselves. this is what unpopular douchebags do. if someon…
/r/seduction17/05/11 11:14 PM
1

i believe the term is "dual induction massage?" fucking hell i've never even been close!
/r/seduction17/05/11 11:08 PM
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And yeah, I am short. I'm like, 5 feet, 6 inches tall. well shit, youre not THAT short. "Well, I've got two out of the three--dark and handsome. Nobody's perfect." !! bravo. "Yup. Good thing it hasn't stopped me from achieving anything. Enjoying your drink?" AND THE CROWD GOES WILD I didn't think before I acted this is the most important part of it all. the instant you stop to think there's some minute movements of body language (that the girl was essentially looking for) that telegraph even the…
/r/seduction17/05/11 11:06 PM
1

oh snap
/r/seduction17/05/11 11:02 PM
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there was a decent video on this awhile back... david dieda and steve p. steve p seemed drunk or something but dieda broke it down simply - you would or you wouldn't. it's pretty much all that should matter, to you anyway. roosh calls it "the boner test" lol.
/r/seduction17/05/11 11:02 PM
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admitting your feelings isnt risking losing her. it's guaranteeing it.
/r/seduction17/05/11 04:49 AM
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Guys, if you want to get the girl you have to risk losing her. yes You have to put your pride on the line and admit your feelings even if that means the answer is no. no
/r/seduction14/05/11 03:44 PM
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yea see how there's two o's? and its not a typo? looser like she's easier to have sex with.
/r/seduction14/05/11 03:09 PM
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hah yea i thought that's what the other guy was talking about when i read his title. honestly? go for it. haters gonna hate, and the kj's will forget it in a few weeks.
/r/seduction14/05/11 12:47 AM
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1.) dance. 2.) when she tries to talk to you, you will have a tendency to lean in so your ear is nearer to her mouth. do not do this (it doesn't even really work anyway). instead make a "what" face and point at your ear. she will lean into you. ta daaaaaa 3.) isolate quickly so you're not yelling the whole time 4.) dance. 5.) learn how to "yell" properly. work on your voice. it has to cut through the music but not be high pitched/scratchy/nasally. 6.) if dancing isn't doable, remember to be expr…
/r/seduction14/05/11 12:05 AM
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catholic? no sex 'till marriage? if you are looking for a girl like that, I would honestly stay away from seduction. Pick some bits from seddit here and there, but most of it probably won't be useful to you. I am wary of anyone who states that seduction is for "a certain kind of girl," but it is certainly geared towards girls who have sex outside of marriage. Look for girls in your church or whatever, so that you don't waste your time chasing heathen slut tail only to be disappointed by your dif…
/r/seduction13/05/11 11:53 PM
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HEY MAN THATS HER BF NOT COOL ARE YOU ALWAYS GOING AROUND WRECKING OTHER PEOPLES oh... sorry. I was injecting my personal morality into the discussion, my bad. went on to list all the negative aspects of their relationship including his Inability to hold a conversation about any opinion they differ on. sounds like you were being kind of blatant about it all... but then again it just may be how you phrased it. anyway, neat little tale.
/r/seduction13/05/11 11:38 PM
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other interesting headlines: "guys nervous around girls they find attractive." wait, wait... "people nervous around people they want to bang." "sky blue" your diffusers are: less qualification required of her, less disqualification of yourself, and "vulnerability game." google that jawn.
/r/seduction13/05/11 11:34 PM
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Picture of cat on the screen. oh man i have a girl dog at home. who gets real jelly of other (human) girls. I have formed an idea. "Wait, aren't you going to let me give you my number now?" please tell me you took the word "let" and ran with it
/r/seduction13/05/11 11:32 PM
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Girl immediately begins qualifying herself to me, explaining why she's not just "one of the bros" and how she's really feminine forcing acknowledgement of sexual dichotomy! you dog, you.
/r/seduction13/05/11 11:29 PM
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mmph no idea. i actually took notes the second time I watched it... so that i wouldn't have to for a third. dunno if that was really note-worthy for me or not though. im at work now but ill check them when i get home.
/r/seduction13/05/11 11:25 PM
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so was that an all out rejection or she just picky about having lipstick smeared. ಠ_ಠ if a girl wants to kiss aint no lipstick stopping them. also next time don't wait until she leaves. her leaving is a sign that you didn't escalate (or just waited to damn long and let logistics force her home, either way lack of escalation). looks like you phrased it that SHE was giving YOU kino, which isn't bad in and of itself, but if you're not giving any back...
/r/seduction13/05/11 10:45 PM
2

do you actually own toys for that specific purpose?
/r/seduction13/05/11 10:42 PM
1

with less alcohol*
/r/seduction13/05/11 09:45 PM
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true basically everywhere. as long as theyre not from there, theyre probably on vacation. vacation = looser.
/r/seduction13/05/11 09:44 PM
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This stuff WORKS oh thank god. you, sir, are a very good person. 9001 internets to you.
/r/seduction13/05/11 09:42 PM
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seddit always says no facebook. there is something weird about the close itself even, getting a girl's full name... although for experimentation's sake, i guess it's possible that there are girls out there who don't really text and are on FB all the time. just remember electronic communication's sole purpose is to get her face-to-face again.
/r/seduction13/05/11 09:39 PM
2

the follow up is don't follow up. at least not right away. you "forgot" about her.
/r/seduction13/05/11 09:37 PM
2

someone did a study about the framing of a question - i think it was opt-in vs. opt-out on an organ donation question. If you ask "do you want to be an organ donor" a lot of people will pick NO. if you ask "Do you NOT want to be an organ donor" almost everyone says NO.
/r/seduction13/05/11 09:36 PM
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At first, I was having pretty good success, but I seem to have hit a roadblock. well you should definitely watch blueprint then he draws a nice little graph with a mountain metaphor that describes exactly what's happening to you. climb a mountan (pua) get to the top and see another (natural). you can't jump to the other mountain, you have to go down first and then climb the other one.
/r/seduction13/05/11 09:34 PM
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THANKS BARACK!
/r/seduction12/05/11 07:39 AM
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;)
/r/seduction12/05/11 12:56 AM
2

digging deep in comment history: the truest mark of trollin'
/r/seduction11/05/11 11:28 PM
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im more worried about hitting 23k and people who make several throwaways just to be racist about people from pakistan. seriously who gets that specific with racism even
/r/seduction11/05/11 11:26 PM
1

we were talking about beach approaches not too long ago. i was saying i like to do them in the water - the current is this unspoken excuse that allows you to drift near girls (or sometimes they will use it in the same way)
/r/seduction11/05/11 11:23 PM
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The only problem with beach-game is: to many women to approach. wisdom
/r/seduction11/05/11 11:21 PM
2

i don't really think they are mutually exclusive. You can be a leader and nice to people and also a badass. "leader" is pretty obviously not in conflict with the other two, but you can be nice to old ladies and a badass in front of assholes or other people who don't really deserve your niceness. i was reading it in that pook book the other day about how women prefer an asshole over a nice guy cause he's more masculine. but if they had it their way, they'd take a man who's masculine without being…
/r/seduction11/05/11 11:20 PM
2

WHY SO BOLD BRO
/r/seduction11/05/11 11:14 PM
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any good resources on "how" to meditate? i know it's sort of a vague thing but im not quite sure i understand how to do it right. also how do you break up the 3 hours of meditation throughout the week?
/r/seduction11/05/11 11:11 PM
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shawarma/hotdog/run/place hey as long as its 4 in 1 1/2 days
/r/seduction11/05/11 11:09 PM
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Like many on reddit, I was always the nerdy guy who never got the girl in high school. yea we've all been there In college I started dating a girl, she got pregnant and we got married. wat excellent first steps. i'm often surprised at how well new guys do on their first time out. this is your first # close you say, and it doesn't seem to read like one. it's shit like this: "you don't have to do that, you know I am not being serious" and raise her head with my hand. baller status. Not really look…
/r/seduction11/05/11 11:08 PM
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"i dont smoke but ill come out with you." i do this unless it's cold. fuck that shit im not standing in the cold.
/r/seduction11/05/11 02:54 PM
1

lol freezout
/r/seduction10/05/11 04:38 PM
1

chasing women around, changing yourselves for them the game would be tiring if this was how you played it. fortunately, this is not how you play it.
/r/seduction09/05/11 09:32 AM
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Remember, girls are cute. This doesn't seem like much of a tip, I know. Obviously we're here because girls are cute, right? Wrong. A lot of us came here initially because girls were just the opposite. They were intimidating. this can be hard to remember when a girl is being/acting like a complete bitch. however that is when you need it the most. when she comes out swinging with some really nasty shit, if you genuinely think it's funny/adorable (like how it's funny when a little kid gets all mad)…
/r/seduction09/05/11 07:38 AM
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yes - that thing about the barriers being put there by yourself. so very very true. if you find genuine barriers it's because you're pushing yourself past what you normally do, whereas these self-constructed barriers prevent motion in the first place
/r/seduction09/05/11 07:34 AM
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well aren't you a cutie
/r/seduction09/05/11 07:32 AM
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I was always the kind of person who thought a neg was basically d-bags calling girls cunts to their faces may i ask what made you decide to stick around, and how you eventually realized you were wrong about it?
/r/seduction09/05/11 07:31 AM
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fap fap fap fap fap fap
/r/seduction09/05/11 06:46 AM
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Yea thats a borderline hostile opener. the face has a lot of brain behind it, and a move like that's a threat if you're a total stranger. of course ive never field tested this, but i doubt i will :| as for kisses, it's nice. i usually just lift the chin (im tallish).
/r/seduction08/05/11 06:11 AM
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one last yammer but yea i do want to hear more about seddit's ideal girls. one man, one vote :|
/r/seduction08/05/11 05:39 AM
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you spelled bitches wrong
/r/seduction08/05/11 05:37 AM
2

A lot of guys get into what I call "chest bumping competitions" where they respond to some AMOG by trying to AMOG back. I think that's an unsuccessful strategy, it just feeds into a vicious circle of bullshit. But what is most important is that you have an unshakable frame. yea i forget who said it (dicarlo perhaps) that most animals the biggest, baddest, strongest is always the alpha - it's all they have. alpha humans have social power... perhaps they bully and intimidate in some ways, but pure…
/r/seduction08/05/11 02:17 AM
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also good. indians used to peyote up in that shit all the time
/r/seduction08/05/11 02:11 AM
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i guess what's implied here is that she's at least moderately experienced with them... doesn't take them too seriously of course, but has the proper respect and knows that if you're willing to focus (or perhaps let go would be the better phrasing) the rewards can go well beyond trails, giggles, and colors. I'm searching for that trip report now - trust me, it's like if "love" really is as great as they say it is, this was true love x1000. with the added benefit of still recognizing its inherent …
/r/seduction08/05/11 01:52 AM
1

at least. do it in nature.
/r/seduction08/05/11 01:52 AM
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well it's personal preference, no need to be closing if you don't want to i suppose. but "good inner game" implies that "outer game" still lacks, and although it is technically less important, it is still necessary to hone. and sometimes, realistically, you don't have the outer game for 8s and 9s, but you're fine with 6s and 7s. no shame in workin' your way up - in fact it's quite respectable. then again so is holding to your standards. i guess the point is moot.
/r/seduction08/05/11 01:22 AM
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I was just hoping they'd call me later so I could make more money. man... there is a quote i've seen around reddit that deals with this specifically... something about the negligence of women in favor of spending your time gaining more capital... and yea, praise the sweet baby back jesus
/r/seduction08/05/11 01:20 AM
2

you 'mirin
/r/seduction08/05/11 01:16 AM
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I'm wearing skinny jeans and boots, I make it look good if you question my fashion sense. INB4 LIKE A BOSS I'm four for four. you know according to style, 5 for 5 is true mpua mastery. rats, you were so close! she says I smell. She leads me to the bathroom, locks the door, throws me a towel, and tells me to strip. We shower together you know you've got the hooks in when instead of thinking "he smells, he's gross," she thinks, "i need to clean him off so i can fuck him." My god her legs were amaz…
/r/seduction08/05/11 01:15 AM
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yes, frogma posted an old tofu post where he noted that girls hardly ever remember (successful) kino. i speculate that in memory it is imprinted as emotion rather than a simple tactile engagement. but that's neither here nor there. Our upper arms were already touching. girls will do this by "accident" if they like you. this has happened to me several times before i got into seduction. i always got some type of excited by it, but it usually turned to paralyzing anxiety pretty quickly. this is a p…
/r/seduction08/05/11 01:06 AM
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I want a sexy Arab girl who enjoys bacon lololol. but srsly i really like this question. i want a girl who will eventually candyflip (or something similar) with me. i read a trip report (actually it was on r/psychonaut i believe) of a guy and his gf who candyflipped together and it was just the most beautiful thing in the world. it was like they got married through the psychedelics. if anyone here's ever done psychedelics you can imagine just how powerful this type of thing could be. they kept m…
/r/seduction08/05/11 12:59 AM
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"If you ever want a sugar-mama, I'm your girl." Immediately following another one says, "If you want some Mediterrainian flavor give me your number!", the next one says , "But I'm the hottest so obviously we need to get together." And the last one says something that I don't remember. the female equivalent of cat-calling. it's more to boast of their sexuality to each other than to you. still, you were deemed a worthy target, and that is still worth plenty. I say something like, "I'll have to thi…
/r/seduction08/05/11 12:53 AM
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Is it (generally speaking) good technique or alpha behavior to steal girls who are dancing with somebody else if you know you can get away with it? yes What if the girl is someone who you have closed before? less so to her, moreso to him. but it doesn't really matter how alpha you are to him, really (I'm not a fan theoretically of kissing on the dance floor, but I was a bit tipsy) nor am i, but a quick kiss is better than a sloppy makeout in these cases. she's sorry If I think that we're exclusi…
/r/seduction08/05/11 12:43 AM
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but good sirs it appears to me that you've overlooked a key aspect in this here interaction. the first line of dialogue is next to "her." she opened him. anything past that is escalation anxiety not approach anxiety. she did the approaching, and he did the escalation. granted, if your AA is bad then your EA probably is too. but some people have the former much worse than the latter ( i can attest to this) so having the girl open them, even inadvertently, can be a great help.
/r/seduction07/05/11 11:55 PM
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We came by bike so any kind of kino is extremely hard, drop her off at her place and say goodnight. did you ride the bike around the bar the whole time you were drinking? you don't kino on the ride home, you kino ALL DAY LONG. other than that your FR is pretty sparse on the details. you had drinks and she laughed and later got tired. it's like you asked me what i did today and i told you "pooped, worked, and slept." also: Should i tell her how i feel i feel that you need to be readin the sidebar…
/r/seduction07/05/11 11:52 PM
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poor choice in girls (girls who are younger than they are) they jelly
/r/seduction07/05/11 11:33 PM
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there's like 10 #1 pickup artists
/r/seduction07/05/11 03:28 PM
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"a good feminist man" feminism is a word much like "fascist" or "narcotic." it has no clear definition whatsoever and could mean this girl is anything from raging man-hater to sexually liberated nympho to simple, normal girl who just thinks that women's rights are stil not yet equal to men's. women who carry the term "feminism" over into their relationships with men (or women) tend to make their relationships political statements. they may not make them entirely political statements, but to some…
/r/seduction07/05/11 07:39 AM
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I think that the two most important observations here are: Not a single mention of kino. This tells me that when applied properly, they don't even notice kino is happening. This is a very good sign IMO. and Almost no thoughts/memories of the followup stage between initial encounter and day-2. This tells me that it's almost always determined whether she will call/text you back by the time you finish the interaction (attraction, comfort, rapport, close). The method you employ to follow up with her…
/r/seduction07/05/11 07:09 AM
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yea man but you're in nyc, it's gotta be different there, i mean come on it's such a huge city and so much stuff is going on, plus there's so many people there that you're like guaranteed to never see them again and... lol j/k no excuses for any of you kids, i just wanted to beat you all to the punch. i flew solo once in new orleans, good stuff. it's hard to have a bad time down there though.
/r/seduction07/05/11 06:23 AM
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lol
/r/seduction07/05/11 04:13 AM
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i've done E a few times with wonderful social results. i would be saying hi to people left and right, even just people who were passing by and i had no intention of stopping them. i either got no bad reactions or simply don't remember the bad reactions. i marveled at the drug's power, but began to realize a key thing - that nobody knew i was on it. they were reacting to my behavior change, which was something that was indeed possible to do without a drug. sure, it's pretty much impossible to bec…
/r/seduction07/05/11 03:24 AM
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its got the most upvotes, you gotta do it.
/r/seduction07/05/11 03:20 AM
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A girl (HB around 7.5) grabs me and tells me "Let's dance!" Me: "I gotta call my friends." Her: "Let's dance!" Me: Or else what? Her: she pulls closer to me, can sense some attraction in there (well, duh, she drew you in for a dance! I know, I know. Me: No, really, I have to call my friends. She: I don't care. continues dancing sometimes, in seduction, there is only one proper criticism of a maneuver such as this. it is simple, curt, and to the point, and it looks like this: ಠ_ಠ
/r/seduction07/05/11 03:18 AM
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be cautious with the follow up game, for sure, but that night that she approaches you... throw caution to the wind and see what you can get away with.
/r/seduction07/05/11 03:15 AM
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spread your attention out evenly, but make sure they're competing for it. yes, in this situation you are not playing to win, you are playing to keep the game going. if you finish the game in the midst of this situation, even if it is a "win" with one girl, it is a "loss" with the other two. prolong the game so that you may win all three at other times.
/r/seduction07/05/11 03:14 AM
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Ethics aren't discussed much in general because they're not application oriented. Presumably, we know how to be good people on our own. this should be in the sidebar
/r/seduction06/05/11 10:15 AM
1

Ethics aren't discussed much in general because they're not application oriented. Presumably, we know how to be good people on our own. this should be in the sidebar
/r/seduction06/05/11 10:12 AM
1

PUA stands for pickup artist, which is a term coined from people that went around picking up women. That's the very essence of being a PUA. People might get into PUA for different reasons, however the bare essentials of being a PUA is to pickup ladies. That thought has to be in your mind somewhere for you to get into this job. ah yes, we will be moral then. WE WILL NOT PICK UP LADIES.
/r/seduction06/05/11 10:05 AM
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And then it happened. I just walked away. I let myself get dragged into a conversation away from her. The best way to describe my attitude was "meh". Later on in the night I reentered the same set and this time HB6 was all over me. Tons and tons and tons of kino. well at least you have some reference of the power of being aloof. I am so outcome independent that I don't even try. i dunno man, it's possible but i would think this is exceedingly rare. it's more likely that you've got anxiety about …
/r/seduction06/05/11 09:52 AM
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subways and buses have so many factors contributing to the killing of a mood. they're like giant, wheeled cockblocks. tactfully discern early on who's place is closer/more accessible, and always spring for a cab. worth it - even if the ride is the same distance there are things you can do to keep the mood up.
/r/seduction06/05/11 09:52 AM
1

I never close for the sake of closing. yea but if youre a noob you should
/r/seduction06/05/11 09:36 AM
1

i think it's really really hard to always have behaviors to punish and reward, that really depends on what phase you're in... but as a general rule it's always good to punish sexual reluctance and reward sexual adventurousness. Punishing among polite company is easy, it often sounds like teasing - the classic "oh you are/like ____? well this isn't going to work out" and other such variations. also physically distancing yourself in a comically obvious way works well. i wouldn't say i reward low v…
/r/seduction06/05/11 09:35 AM
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I'm not into 3somes well in that case don't kiss any of them, just kino the shit out of all of them. you will keep them all attracted and not piss any of them off so much that they write you off.
/r/seduction06/05/11 09:22 AM
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this is a whole lot of texting. do less next time. i want to say "good job" because it would have been if it were a face to face convo... but over text this is just way too much. i could easily be wrong here, but just because the verbal aspect of this interaction is setting up a date/hangout doesn't mean the subtextual implications are on the road to sex.
/r/seduction06/05/11 09:20 AM
1

17 days ago that his girlfriend broke up with him i know i shouldnt but i automatically assume this (or something similar) about seduction detractors.
/r/seduction06/05/11 09:15 AM
1

i read it... i dunno it seems a bit much... and for the average girl i think that the psychological types are much less set in stone than dicarlo does. they are less "psychological types" and more like "moods" and change as such.
/r/seduction06/05/11 05:29 AM
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i gotchu nigga, go plop the mineral girl over in that thread
/r/seduction05/05/11 07:34 PM
1

seddit rebuttal/meme master, it's what i do. i want an official hat.
/r/seduction05/05/11 07:27 PM
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fucking america needs fucking love hotels right fucking now god dammit. i mean, uh, good job.
/r/seduction05/05/11 07:20 PM
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i suck at 2nd dates lol. this seems like it's something more on her end, not really yours. it is entirely possible that she really is that awkward, but then again i am also confused that the first date ended in a makeout and the second didn't - the only thing i can think of is that this time the makeout had a much larger danger of leading into sex than the other one did, and this was a sort of first-line-LMR. be really careful here, i've run into very similar situations before, losing ground fro…
/r/seduction05/05/11 07:17 PM
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he calls me an ass hole because I'm making fun of her She comes barging in and demands that I make out with her there is no problem here. when a girl calls you an asshole and still acts interested, she is interested. pretty straightforward.
/r/seduction05/05/11 07:13 PM
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well if you do enough approaches in a night then every post would wind up being a boast post, bro. BROAST POST
/r/seduction05/05/11 07:11 PM
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myth #8: we honestly give a rat's ass that you hold these misconceptions and judge us because of them. reality: we don't! on the real tip, this myth that seduction only works on "certain types of girls" like "bar skanks" or "club rats" as if there is some subspecies of females that is nocturnal and whose habitat consists of alcohol dispensing venues, and that these moves are tailored towards them rather than the common psychological principles that bind all those humans with vaginas. ...damn, so…
/r/seduction05/05/11 07:06 PM
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damn son this is r/seduction not r/criticizeseduction. i believe that's actually called "the rest of reddit" women are stupid and disposable, some are, some aren't. it helps to know which ones are which. perhaps repeated exposure to women in social situations would do the trick! but what would we call it? dating is a game like risk that can be won, i don't really think that. it can definitely be lost, however. having sex is the ultimate goal having sex is the immediate goal, not the ultimate one…
/r/seduction05/05/11 06:56 PM
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gotta own the bone brah.
/r/seduction05/05/11 02:14 AM
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ಠ_ಠ
/r/seduction05/05/11 01:36 AM
1

intredasting...
/r/seduction05/05/11 12:40 AM
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let her go, the ex's clingy behavior attracts her in a motherly, sympathetic way, not in a sexual way. she will be back if you let it go and seek other women. dont make a stupid decision because your ex is acting stupid why not? let her. the last thing she needs is two betas clawing at her. and she will definitely choose neither before she chooses either beta.
/r/seduction05/05/11 12:34 AM
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Curse my brain, if there has been anything that has ruined my ability to pick up women more it is my infernal brain. you're one hell of a redditor aren't you? Hot Mind? for real? you seem to me to be a "true geek," that is, not a person who's happened to have enjoyed a story that was set in space, but that type that's just too awkward, too nerdy, too annoying to deal with regularly. (sorry if im wrong, or if im all too right). turning off one's mind is not easy, especially when one is so used to…
/r/seduction05/05/11 12:30 AM
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yea, i wasn't being serious. but if dancing ain't game then very little else is.
/r/seduction05/05/11 12:24 AM
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turn her into a wingwoman to her friends
/r/seduction05/05/11 12:21 AM
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I hope she kind of just indulged you this is the second time this week i've seen something like this. do women really indulge men by having sex with them? i was under the impression that they guarded their vaginas a bit more vigilantly than that. p.s. slack, creepy, low, liar - i lol'd
/r/seduction05/05/11 12:18 AM
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THERE WAS TIME NOW!!! IT'S NOT FAIR!!!
/r/seduction05/05/11 12:13 AM
1

I don't really think this is game, buddy.
/r/seduction05/05/11 12:09 AM
1

sadly all the brown/asian/short folk will need to experience a night like this for themselves to truly believe what you've just said.
/r/seduction04/05/11 11:52 PM
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I do feel like, over the years, have let my wife have control to a certain extent. I try to avoid conflict with her and usually will tap out if we ever get into a knock-down-drag-out argument. DUN DUN DUNNNNNN I've become a complete stay at home kind of guy since we met because I thought that's what she wanted. DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNN i've never even been close to married, so my advice has no credentials. but from what i understand, women don't want to win arguments, they are simply using them to t…
/r/seduction04/05/11 11:46 PM
1

you don't use stories in set? i call shenanigans.
/r/seduction04/05/11 11:37 PM
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Earlier that day she txted me that her friend was coming along, I asked if her friend was single. lol'd. also, good move. "Ok, this is awkward, I'm not a lap person" perhaps you weren't being a sexy enough chair every time I lock with them she gets defensive and asks "what?" i've seen this enough that i think i can safely say it's usually an IOI. she wants to know what you're thinking. Is my makeup a mess?", "Here, let me see" she stops, closes her eyes while I move my hand up to brush her wet h…
/r/seduction04/05/11 11:35 PM
1

you may want to read "the way of the superior man" by david dieda (?) if you haven't already. a lot of the book is about this, particularly that whole "get playfully physical to change her attitude" thing.
/r/seduction04/05/11 11:31 PM
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cock-blocking friend we call that an "oxymoron"
/r/seduction04/05/11 11:26 PM
1

you got mad psychological stuff going on, i'd worry about girls later. also, what is the B in BAFC?
/r/seduction04/05/11 11:21 PM
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Dance game is the easiest game there is, bar none. it's also the hardest to verbalize, package, and sell. this is why it's been neglected in the industry. you did a pretty good job though. the push-pull thing is very important. they will get close and grind as sort of a reflex, and when you push them away they often give you that faux "how dare you" look and you can tell they're just thinking "why didn't he just hump me like all the other idiots?" usually, though, i sub dance game for attraction…
/r/seduction04/05/11 11:18 PM
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i think this idea of "sociably fucked up" is actually a very important one. some guys get all DONT DRINK and whatnot, but it's not about not doing or doing, it's about finding that balanced level. you can have some fucking epic nights if you know where your balanced level is at.
/r/seduction04/05/11 02:00 AM
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the correct answer is ecstasy. but for real, i think someone mentioned RSD, take a look at the blueprint decoded or some such program
/r/seduction04/05/11 01:58 AM
2

didn't see that coming
/r/seduction04/05/11 01:58 AM
1

I noticed her nails were painted a very nice blue, so I said something like "Let me see your nails" and took her hand, i thank baby jesus every day for nails, rings, and necklaces. Rather than being sarcastic, as has been my style for many years, I went for the agree-and-amplify route, and said something (very exaggeratedly, Shakespearean almost) like "You are radiant! The air you breathe is sacred, and the ground upon which you walk is precious." I then took her hand in both mine and proceeded …
/r/seduction04/05/11 01:52 AM
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i don't know him irl, so i couldn't say. though his last post does say something about traveling for a while and not being around
/r/seduction04/05/11 01:39 AM
2

a dirty 12 year old girl, in this case why don't you have a seat over there...
/r/seduction04/05/11 01:37 AM
1

dear lord beta orbiter pieces of shit make me rage. go with throwawaypua's line. he is a beta chump motherfucker and if she is taking his advice on anything it shouldn't take much to knock it down - however, sadly, this may be difficult to do via text/phone. the subtext, if i am reading it correctly, is leaving it open for this anyway. she says her friends don't like you, and conveniently leaves out what she thinks about you. of course she leaves this out because your response to this will deter…
/r/seduction04/05/11 01:22 AM
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i disagree wholeheartedly. Push: "No." "That sucks because i want to dance with you but i have aboyfriend. You're not gay?" (tell me you are gay so i can dance with you) Push: "No, and i'm not about to be your gay friend." "Well can you pretend?" (i know you're not gay just fucking say you are so i can dance with you and have that little shred of plausible deniability) Push: "I don't do that." all push no pull, textbook mistake. also, all her stuff was "pull" stuff. i think our friend here has g…
/r/seduction04/05/11 01:13 AM
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also you can probably get a few one night stands in the meantime
/r/seduction04/05/11 12:50 AM
1

cheddarchexmix: nevar forget
/r/seduction03/05/11 12:01 PM
2

i'm 'mirin this comment
/r/seduction03/05/11 05:24 AM
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on a scale from 1-10, it's anywhere from a 2-10. seriously though, if you've got a bit of practice under your belt it's not insanely difficult. once you've got some skills under your belt the next thing you'll need to learn is how to find receptive, willing girls. sure i could try for girl A or girl B, the question is, which one is being a tease and which one really wants the cock? game + horny girl radar = easier lays. it will be very hard at first but what isn't? stick around and wait for some…
/r/seduction03/05/11 03:47 AM
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yea i just meant in terms of that night. you could have gotten at least a makeout it seems, but those guys would have been a pain in the balls, especially for a first-timer.
/r/seduction03/05/11 03:43 AM
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oh i wasn't criticizing that angle. you can pick up girls just about anywhere, of course. i was more so amused at the fact that you were asking us about what types of wallpaper are the most alpha. pretty god damned ridiculous, man. just make your wallpaper something you like.
/r/seduction03/05/11 03:42 AM
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well i was going to say that you had her, but it wasn't really that in the bag. you would have had to contend with those other guys - even if you were doing better than them they could still be distracting or otherwise pull some shit (where they don't outgame you, just sabotage you somehow). not a bad first fr, though.
/r/seduction03/05/11 03:39 AM
1

i've been thinking about trying OKC... not sure about the whole thing yet. anyway i read something good about it not too long ago
/r/seduction03/05/11 03:36 AM
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My question is, how does this relate to picking up women? The indirect camp would say, "Good! Open sideways, then slowly face her." The direct camp (Juggler comes to mind) says, "You have to fully invest in the conversation first. Face her directly from the get-go." My instinct tells me that these approaches might both be good, depending on the situation. Thoughts? don't know why the "camps" are considered separate - you are correct in intuiting that the approach's effectiveness lies in the situ…
/r/seduction03/05/11 03:32 AM
1

i lost my virginity on a cruise when i was 17. before i knew anything about game. you should be ok.
/r/seduction03/05/11 03:30 AM
5

is this nigga guy serious
/r/seduction03/05/11 03:30 AM
2

slugs having sex is AWESOME
/r/seduction02/05/11 10:01 PM
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ok buddy, just for you, i'm going to get down to the nitty gritty and put on my rebuttal hat. here it goes. I came here after seeing /r/seduction mentioned in comments alot lately. I thought it might be a sub worth reading; I was wrong. It honestly comes off as /r/circlejerkforguyswearingtapoutshirts. i don't think you've been here very long? i understand that inherently, discussing successes with women can be a bit bro-like, but i also see three failure FRs on the front page as i write this. I …
/r/seduction02/05/11 09:43 AM
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phase 1 - go to r/seduction and tell men not to seduce phase 2 - ??? phase 3 - downvotes All this crap about being the dominat male, "neging", and fucktarded "openers" really should be thrown out the window. When it does work for you, they know whats going on; they're humoring you. hmm... do most woman go so far as to allow vaginal penetration just to humor someone? im always curious about you gents. why are you here? what are you trying to do, telling us whats up and whats not? what do you hope…
/r/seduction02/05/11 08:15 AM
1

HB8 - (Laughs) "haha Noo, But i will if you want me too" Me - "nah its cool" no it is not cool. had this set gotten to a #close you would have had a pic of you in her phone. you would not be forgotten my good man. i wouldn't really call this "conversation fail," though. seemed fine to me, it was just a lack of escalation on your part. to be fair it was quick - this was a "go for the #" type of situation. You seem to have recognized that, and simply failed to act. happens sometimes. p.s. what the…
/r/seduction02/05/11 02:46 AM
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What's wrong? 3 times now you've had an excuse. It's been weeks since we've seen each other. hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngggg this is clearly when you shot yourself in the foot. time to be nextin'. "so you wont have any trouble coming round tomorrow then?" not unless you want to shoot your other foot.
/r/seduction02/05/11 02:41 AM
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well i would have called her after she wasn't on the first train. and i would have said "call me next time you're going to be late." no big deal, no skin off my back, but a little mental note made that if she does it again she's going to receive less of my attention/effort. (or perhaps she's going to receive less of it NOW). you're not supposed to be obvious about this btw. it's more for your sake, not hers.
/r/seduction02/05/11 02:38 AM
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great IOI's, but does mix them in with some IOD's, too. like what for example? some specifics would be helpful in this case. she makes me pinky-swear that I'm not going to try to have sex with her correct answer: you pinky swear her while holding your other hand in obvious view, with your fingers crossed. (of course this is if you haven't beaten her to the punch as throwawaypua suggests. I try caressing her chest with my fingertips, gradually moving them down and she grabs my hand to stop me it'…
/r/seduction02/05/11 02:35 AM
1

she's about to orgasm, and she makes me stop. this happened to me once. i could tell she was about to cum and she said like "no" or "stop" or something. but i was so damn close to having her cum already so i just gave her like 4 more quick ones till she finished. i don't think she was mad that i didn't stop.
/r/seduction02/05/11 02:30 AM
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"you guys look like you're having soooo much fun" dear god this is the best opener in the world. Sarcastic for quiet girls, genuine for actually fun girls. it works everywhere. I am nominating this as the seddit go-to opener. observation and compliment / gentle tease about her jade ear ring, these are always good but i like to save them for a little bit later and use them as kino "excuses." girls like always have some kind of jewelry on. I usually go for rings (hands). Joked that we would climb …
/r/seduction02/05/11 02:27 AM
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r/okcupid take their advice with a shaker of salt. another asked me about what I do, and never responded after that. why not? sometimes girls have bad game. she may have been just trying to make conversation.
/r/seduction02/05/11 02:19 AM
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a strong HB8 (8.78) ಠ_ಠ also you didn't have sex. i was like 99% sure this was going to end up with sex. considering that the "seduction phase" is often referring to the one you do in the bedroom, i'm not sure how this is seduction without a single word. the rest is very nice though.
/r/seduction02/05/11 01:22 AM
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there's huge distance between him and his target - is this a big mistake for him? only if he's keeping that distance. staying close all the time is bad too though - kinda have to "yo-yo" your distance with her. ahem push-pull ahem. I think I came off as unsure of myself, it's never happened before. What should I do next time? be more sure of yourself?? not really something you can just force, you can try to fake it though. the important thing is that there IS a next time. as for the rest of this…
/r/seduction02/05/11 01:16 AM
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(Quick aside: I have found one way to turn a woman on is pick a certain part of her body and tell her why you find it attractive in detail as you touch that area.) the stuff of romance novels. We get to my house and I know she is thinking I'm going to try to kiss her. I get out of the car look at her and say, "I do not think I'm going to let you make out with me." She laughs. I reach in pull the strap off her shoulder and say, "keep that down on the ride back so you will remember me." She asks, …
/r/seduction02/05/11 12:39 AM
5

indirect opener -> direct opener
/r/seduction02/05/11 12:32 AM
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man, who the fuck upvoted you
/r/seduction02/05/11 12:30 AM
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Guys, this stuff works. WHAT? ARE YOU SERIOUS good fr my brotha... im going to go ahead and assume that "taking her home" meant you banged her. don't correct me if im wrong.
/r/seduction02/05/11 12:30 AM
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shhhhh
/r/seduction02/05/11 12:28 AM
2

"No! I can be a slut sometimes!" raises eyebrow*
/r/seduction30/04/11 10:20 PM
3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT2eOGZzRGI
/r/seduction30/04/11 10:17 PM
1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT2eOGZzRGI
/r/seduction30/04/11 10:17 PM
1

a meme going through seddit it's from the boondocks, man - it's a pretty old meme (as far as memes go). the "bitches love" meme is actually closer to being racist than it is to being sexist. (luckily the character is white, so it isn't even that.) plus why be hatin' on shit that bitches love? if bitches love it, we love it.
/r/seduction30/04/11 10:16 PM
1

several k ago?
/r/seduction30/04/11 10:12 PM
2

you learnin'
/r/seduction30/04/11 03:14 PM
2

"alpha" has a pretty fluid definition. there are more than a few ways to be alpha. find the one that works for you (looks like you may have already).
/r/seduction30/04/11 03:13 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT2eOGZzRGI
/r/seduction30/04/11 03:10 PM
3

why yes, friend, this sounds like a great idea, let us both purchase this woman a drink so that she has two! then later we will decide which ends we are taking!
/r/seduction29/04/11 02:16 AM
1

i pretty much disregard anything on video for these reasons
/r/seduction29/04/11 02:08 AM
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white knight cavalry chaaaaaaaarge!!
/r/seduction29/04/11 02:06 AM
1

no just saying he might not think you're as attractive as you or everyone else does. or he's an idiot and has no game. maybe he can't stand your personality. i dunno. either way on seddit when we know someone isn't into us we don't ask why so much, we say "next"
/r/seduction29/04/11 01:53 AM
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"Oh! Sorry I didn't see you there, that must have looked unbelievably impressive, real sorry about that I didn't mean for it to be I guess it comes naturally to me." i love you
/r/seduction29/04/11 01:44 AM
3

either you aren't a 6-7 to him, or he has no game.
/r/seduction29/04/11 01:42 AM
1

“Look, I really don’t like people touching me. The only people I let touch me are my family, boyfriends, and like, really close girl friends.” = friendzone “Can you take a picture of your wall, or type up what you’ve got on there and send it to me?” = you're in my friendzone can you do me friend favors while i never have sex with you? tbh brother, you did well. perhaps you could have done better, but you certainly could have done much worse. this could easily be chalked up to her not liking you …
/r/seduction29/04/11 12:29 AM
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hm... perhaps read a pickup book. or head to dunkin donuts and pick up an egg sandwich on a poppy seed bagel. the poppy potentiates the egg and creates maximum pickup opportunity.
/r/seduction29/04/11 12:23 AM
1

http://youcantloveemall.com/ if you start at the beginning, anyways. this guy posted his blog here when he first started it. he seemed pretty newbish then, but what do i know? either way it's close to what you're looking for, i think.
/r/seduction29/04/11 12:15 AM
1

I read some people suggesting handing her the phone, but when I tried that previously it went kinda awkward, she didn't really know how to work the touch screen and the female friends I talked to said they don't like when a guy hands them his phone. oh christ no way. maybe it's not for you but this is always how i #close. then again i do have an oldschool phone, no touchscreen.
/r/seduction29/04/11 12:12 AM
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very true. for me in particular the beach is fine, i just feel that socially it is perceived as a weird pickup spot (i.e. the classic overthrow the football so it lands near the girls maneuver). then again maybe i am projecting? who knows. either way i think strategically, as far as the beach goes, in the water is the #1 approach (fun, "natural," theres kino potential, etc.)
/r/seduction29/04/11 12:08 AM
1

honestly if a girl ever straight up ASKS me to get her a drink (which i don't really see much) i just say: "nope" (the key is tone, say it "matter-of-factly" [!]) she usually will ask why and then i will deliver something like you've seen in these other comments. I really like the "nope" to start though, it just gives off this vibe of "not only am i not buying you a drink, but the fact that you asked is strange, and i'm not even going to dignify it with an explanation."
/r/seduction28/04/11 11:26 PM
1

yes but why in the snow? i got a minute in and had to restart it, i was so distracted by the fact that he was in the snow on a mountain for no apparent reason
/r/seduction28/04/11 11:19 PM
1

nice theory.... and uh, interesting implementation. B-
/r/seduction28/04/11 11:18 PM
2

gangsta bitches. they lack feminine personality traits and are generally unpleasant to be around. also they will try to get you into fights.
/r/seduction28/04/11 11:17 PM
1

the beach seems to be a special daygame venue for a lot of reasons. it's so full of opportunity and yet there seems to be something cheesy about approaching at the beach, even more so than anywhere else. i don't approach much at the beach but when i do, i do it in the water. pretty easy to let "the current" move you closer to girls for incidental conversation.
/r/seduction28/04/11 11:15 PM
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If you see a submission that says this UPVOTE IT
/r/seduction28/04/11 02:21 AM
2

i want a little trophy. "seddit meme generator"
/r/seduction28/04/11 02:07 AM
3

BE URSELF SAY HI ??? SEX
/r/seduction28/04/11 12:43 AM
2

intredasting... i've always found that egg sandwiches rile a woman up sexually. cook a few and see where it goes.
/r/seduction28/04/11 12:41 AM
3

roosh hit this one out of the park. i hope he finds that girl in denmark lol
/r/seduction28/04/11 12:31 AM
2

yea like i said, you had a point too, nobody should get stuck in club mode doing ONSs all the time. But it's a phase you should go through, or at least do it every once in a while, so that you know how to build attraction like that. Gotta play the amateurs first, it's just that you can't stagnate and play them for the rest of your life - after that it's a graded difficulty, going from ONSs to "STRs" to LTRs. but even then, the analogy is bad - some ONSs are hard, and ONSs can be harder for some …
/r/seduction28/04/11 12:26 AM
1

i think the lurkers would rather wait around picking their nose and shaking their heads until a white knight shows up. then they shall sail the upboats fast and hard.
/r/seduction27/04/11 11:44 PM
2

well if a girl knows what men do to attract women, that's not exactly a sign to stop doing what attracts women, now is it?
/r/seduction27/04/11 11:42 PM
3

poor game is getting SNLs when you want LTRs. Or LTRs when you want SNLs. we can't see what the poster's goals are unless they tell us, so it's really not for us to judge. If someone says that they keep getting ONSs when they want longer term stuff, then the advice needs to be given. But if someone keeps getting ONSs and never calling them back 'cause they don't want to call them back, there isn't really an issue. you do have a point, but individual goals combined with individual level of skill …
/r/seduction27/04/11 11:41 PM
1

yea. that pic always makes me feel a little queasy
/r/seduction27/04/11 10:07 PM
1

what makes you believe her when she says she's never gotten caught? he could be an orbiter chump who she's gaming for money and is such a beta that he sticks by when she bangs other dudes. and you may be the last straw DUN DUN DUNNN you seem to be doing well already, go ahead and push it, see how far you get.
/r/seduction27/04/11 02:35 AM
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he's allowed to do whatever the fuck he wants, the issue is whether or not the girl will continue to be attracted to him afterwards. we didn't make up the rules dude
/r/seduction27/04/11 02:27 AM
3

seddit lives
/r/seduction27/04/11 01:18 AM
1

We're going to her summer house at the beach, grill some meat and find out if we fit together as a couple. WAT
/r/seduction27/04/11 01:11 AM
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i know man. that "60 points" is making me feel sick. edit: i feel even sicker cause i am in love with the username
/r/seduction26/04/11 11:52 PM
1

definitely thought it was going to be that pic looking out from the marine troop transport onto omaha beach
/r/seduction26/04/11 10:42 PM
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game = mimicry of alpha behavior to attract women. you don't drop game to keep a girl around, you ingrain it so that you don't "maintain it," it's just there. starting a relationship "via game" is how you're supposed to do it. Starting a relationship "without game" is most likely going to be one "without sex" and will never "progress to one with sex." but no, let's upvote wumbology since the vast majority of the lurkers here don't grasp what the hell is going on, and have migrated here from the …
/r/seduction26/04/11 02:11 PM
1

lost it for lack of game
/r/seduction26/04/11 10:51 AM
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you can already see why it's good in the first story. he takes a concept and digresses into it for a paragraph or two and then goes back into the story. it's properly contextualized. this is going to be fun to read.
/r/seduction25/04/11 07:20 AM
2

but... haven't you heard? seddit is full of fake douches. i think you're in the wrong subreddit.
/r/seduction25/04/11 01:08 AM
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NOW to get down to why people dislike the seduction community. To understand why people dislike the community of seduction, oh dear it appears that i... don't care at all. would ya look at that. We're not really here to convince everybody that we're right. well... some of us are, but in my opinion that reveals a certain "inner game" issue that they need to take care of. We shouldn't be interested in seducing a girl and then turning around and saying "ah see, i did it this way! look, girl, and se…
/r/seduction25/04/11 01:04 AM
3

whoa is "escalation anxiety" really a thing now? ive always heard that when you think you should kiss her, you should have done it 5 minutes ago. waiting only hurts.
/r/seduction22/04/11 11:10 PM
1

i always think of that rob judge "find out the truth" thing when it comes to waiting for texts. she will or she won't, not much you can do. worrying won't help but sometimes you can't help but wonder if she will or won't. but the worst thing to do is text her again... no matter what you actually text it's going to signify that you're worried about the lack of response. I got an "im sick" once, and i gave her the benefit of the doubt and texted her again the next week. no reply. deleted from phon…
/r/seduction22/04/11 11:08 PM
5

i dont know about bitches but i know when i see a male using smiley faces i cringe. i'd say for every 5 messages, use a smiley face in about none or less of them. unless it's really your thing or something. when i absolutely need to set tone with an emoticon its always a winky face.
/r/seduction20/04/11 04:05 PM
4

people all up in here talking about EA... *sniff i'm so proud it's exactly what you have too. you get over it the same way as AA, by desensitizing yourself to the action and the rejection. EA has that extra caveat of "ive already invested x minutes so i am even more reluctant to risk this." yet as we all know, inaction is guaranteed to bring a bad outcome, whereas there is always a chance with action.
/r/seduction17/04/11 11:35 PM
2

you have a good wingman in R1. he gets just as much props as you do.
/r/seduction15/04/11 07:32 AM
4

i like it. it would be interesting to see this implemented on a large scale, and have sedditors report back - what was better, the stuff you found while exploring or the girl/date.
/r/seduction15/04/11 07:29 AM
2

ideal situation. when it comes down to the nitty gritty, you can't interface your nervous system with hers. you can't make her do anything. the classic dynamic between men and women is one of dominance and submission, which implies that you do and she lets you do.
/r/seduction15/04/11 04:58 AM
5

couldn't get her to reciprocate. you don't get her to make moves. you make them yourself. in this FR you didn't make moves, you took some baby steps. pat yo self on the back. but they clearly weren't enough and that's why she is now exhibiting this behavior. take notes, move on.
/r/seduction15/04/11 01:20 AM
3

calling her out on it can seem childish too. you made it a big deal, and you let her know it's a big deal. unattractive.
/r/seduction15/04/11 01:02 AM
1

looks like she learned
/r/seduction15/04/11 12:58 AM
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not only is this one of the most pathetic subreddits ever conceived, but that aggravating, laughing forever alone guy in the background makes it hard to read the comments. "try to see it's all within yourself no one else can make you change." a noble effort but those guys want to wallow in their own shit so much that they actually subscribed to and post in a forum that highlights this fact. Also as others have said - well-intentioned but poorly executed. Just like the "nice guy" shouldnt try to …
/r/seduction14/04/11 07:32 PM
13

If you guys really want to stop seduction from looking shallow and disgusting i think we need to stop doing this - that is, stop trying to make seduction look like it's not "shallow and disgusting." whether it is or isn't is a moot point if you're doing it in your daily life. If you know you're righteous, fine. If you know you're an asshole, ok. The public perception of seduction holds little to no bearing on its merits and one's character.
/r/seduction14/04/11 07:27 PM
1

probably. oh well.
/r/seduction14/04/11 07:46 AM
3

ಠ_ಠ
/r/seduction14/04/11 07:43 AM
1

i figured it wouldn't be lost in translation, i guess not. he clearly knows what he's doing, it was more of a joke than anything. cursed internet and its lack of tone. this will be my last joke, ever.
/r/seduction14/04/11 06:38 AM
1

hmmm... simple and stripped down are good things.
/r/seduction14/04/11 06:25 AM
6

not to be burstin' your bubble but someone else had a better one not too long ago - look at the iris. plus there is the added benefit of remembering people's eye color
/r/seduction14/04/11 04:20 AM
3

hey look it's someone who doesn't understand seduction! hi there!
/r/seduction14/04/11 04:17 AM
2

if HBobstacle is a good friend ugh, so often not the case. you are a little lucky (and also in a much better venue for this. in a bar she would have enacted some sort of sabotage. She eventually says that she wants to see me the next day and I say NO. how exactly was this done? that's the important part. otherwise smashing, my good man. I know this FR is long and sounds kinda cocky but I don't care. boy I tell you what, anybody that does care needs to hang around here more and get some work in.
/r/seduction14/04/11 04:17 AM
4

theory on its own is useless. However, action without theory gives results that are so slow as to be negligible, unless you're lucky enough to have discovered the proper patterns accidentally. action + theory = win. take said win and multiply it by more action and theory. win(action+theory) = personalized theory that you developed and fits you = win2 aaaaaaw yeaaaaaaa
/r/seduction14/04/11 04:09 AM
2

nope. think of it as a fun experiment. can she tell? i bet she can't. man i am awesome.
/r/seduction14/04/11 04:05 AM
1

no. i use facebook, and i like facebook. I have, however, made the mistake of fb-ing girls i met (and even already banged) in real life. SOCIAL is the key word here. new "flings" or whatever you want to call them, are not serious, they are fickle, and often trivial (or at least they should be, so you don't take them too seriously and ruin them). They are sexual, whereas facebook is social. I would argue that a sexual relationship doesn't become "social" until some type of commitment is made, and…
/r/seduction14/04/11 04:02 AM
1

great effort = great results "seduction" is often a mirage since it promises "how to get laid" but often fails to mention (or gleans casually past) the fact that it takes hard work and you can easily break down if you push yourself too hard.
/r/seduction14/04/11 03:55 AM
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a.) that line sucks uh, that's it i guess.
/r/seduction14/04/11 03:50 AM
5

She told me how much she liked me and how during that week, she actually realized how much she liked me. that week that you were aloof and indifferent and unavailable? dear me, I wonder why? this is probably the simplest, most stripped down version of "get your one-itis" technique.
/r/seduction14/04/11 03:48 AM
9

real american heroes - today we salute you, mr. admitted he was wrong on the internet.
/r/seduction14/04/11 03:45 AM
3

I think it might have to do with simply having the balls to approach. there is approach anxiety (AA) which everyone gets. there is also anxiety related to escalation (EA). Most everyone gets this too, and they are closely related. touching, kissing, getting more sexual, making the proper moves to pull to a sex location, and then escalating to sex, are all actions that involve some sort of risk, usually of getting blown out (of course the supreme irony is that not doing those things guarantees a …
/r/seduction14/04/11 03:44 AM
3

i couldnt find it. basically some kid cooked 2 egg sandwiches in his FR and he ad the girl ate them. someone proceeded to make a comment along the lines of "bitches love egg sandwiches" and i started telling noobs with sidebar questions "make her an egg sandwich." if you bring it back i will upvote it every time i see it, just sayin'
/r/seduction12/04/11 06:37 PM
8

you clearly were not here for the short-lived "egg sandwich"
/r/seduction12/04/11 03:21 AM
1

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" - Wayne Gretzky - Michael Scott
/r/seduction07/04/11 05:22 AM
2

i have replaced the classic PUA lines for when a girl touches me, the old "hey hands off the merchandise" or "touch me again and it's 10 bucks" or whatever. now i just say "ne touchez pas." i have later discovered loaded cultural meanings surrounding the phrase which makes it even more delicious beyond its sexy phonemes.
/r/seduction30/03/11 02:25 AM
9

nigga please
/r/seduction25/03/11 12:33 AM
12

I never do that whole "negging" thing people some people seem to love around here, but I will playfully tease a girl. i don't drink dihydrogen oxide, but i do drink water.
/r/seduction08/03/11 03:25 AM
2

those are the pickup materials i focus on these days (at least 1 and 3, but ive read intimate connections) RSD is onto something though, but youre right about it being rehashed eastern philosophy. Cook recommends the author eckhart tolle, which is a good resource for learning presence and "being in the moment" and such... but an even better one is thich nhat hahn. his books are awesome, and have really practical things you can do to get out of your head and into the present/
/r/seduction05/03/11 04:46 PM
2

perhaps, but misconceptions and misplaced morality often prevent people from even wanting to hear it in the first place.
/r/seduction04/03/11 07:42 AM
3

for the love of god neil, knock it off. respect dwindling.
/r/seduction03/03/11 06:54 PM
5

someone once did... many, many seddit moons ago...
/r/seduction03/03/11 01:16 AM
2

he speaks for all of us
/r/seduction03/03/11 01:15 AM
2

We talked for a while, and he gave example of how a few of the principles had lead to the confessions and convictions of dangerous criminals. they gave us a lotta LMR but we fucked em in the end! And it happens to be the skill that is taught LEAST in the book and the community. And this secret skill, which is ESSENTIAL for success in almost any area of life, is . . . . . . coming in the next email! trollface.jpg strauss is out of control. he's turned into a pure marketing machine. all of his sed…
/r/seduction02/03/11 06:42 AM
-2

IM DOING SOMETHING AWKWARD ALLOW ME TO CALL ATTENTION TO IT PLZ
/r/seduction02/03/11 06:39 AM
1

HO LEE SHIT. I'm not usually an advocate of being a dick but I think this situation may have called for it. the translation isn't even that hard to make. "hey, i need money! you should give me some. Since you never have sex, i think you're pretty pathetic and will bite on something like this. so lets do it! i probably won't even give you the head anyway, so whatever!" and that may be the very worst thing about it. I really really doubt she would hold up her end of the bargain. I'd paste it up on…
/r/seduction02/03/11 06:36 AM
1

http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/fu4d1/state_is_overrated/ ಠ_ಠ
/r/seduction01/03/11 05:33 PM
2

did you really do that?
/r/seduction01/03/11 04:24 PM
2

I'm supposed to start salsa classes (no homo) youre damn right no homo. this was a good first time out.
/r/seduction01/03/11 02:37 AM
1

"as long as you dont care that that person will forever think that youre the strangest human being they've ever met in their life, everything works out GREAT!"
/r/seduction28/02/11 09:22 PM
20

'I am on a drug, it's called Charlie Sheen. It's not available. If you try it once you will die, your face will melt off.'
/r/seduction28/02/11 08:27 PM
2

all true but roissy knows what he is doing. he's a writer and he knows exactly what he believes in and why. This is what makes him a good writer and it is why I keep going back, regardless of his political and cultural tangents. My problem is the guys who just latch on to his way of thinking because he is bitter. Essentially they are there for the bashing and not for the alpha tips. The truth of the matter is that a large majority of sedditors are still not anywhere close mentally to being succe…
/r/seduction28/02/11 08:10 PM
1

State also tends to make guys very sociable but not very sexual. excellent point, very true. its hard to turn off that social electricity and get down to seduction when youre on a roll
/r/seduction28/02/11 08:08 PM
1

its pretty much this, you just need to bait that first statement out of her.
/r/seduction28/02/11 08:05 PM
1

i invented the question mark
/r/seduction28/02/11 08:02 PM
1

time to get lucky or make a mistake. i hate to break it to you but numbers are like INCREDIBLY easy to pull. it's getting her to respond and meet that's the difficult part. there's no nice way to say it without seeming like i am shooting you down. Im really not, i know how hard it is to get over some of those hurdles and you did a great job, but that step was more about you than her. that said - you managed to make her laugh? pick the best/most memorable slice of humor and use that to open the c…
/r/seduction28/02/11 10:38 AM
2

she hopes I won't even remember her someday i hope you don't remember her either. she seems kind of mean. get on the path - youve read the books, you know what to do. You're here now so you can start moving and see where it goes. It's going to suck at first. but if you keep at it i can at least promise you that you will forget about HER. ps defriending her from FB was definitely a good move. and arent there like a bunch of hot hippie music chicks in austin?
/r/seduction28/02/11 10:30 AM
3

damn, i leave for like a week or two and THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS
/r/seduction28/02/11 10:21 AM
5

its a different breed though. instead of tucking his tail between his legs he bares his teeth. hes more frustrated than chump, and hes got a lot of roissy in his head thinking its all logical and women are semi-sentient lumps of human matter good for fucking and not to be trusted.
/r/seduction28/02/11 10:14 AM
6

i think my main argument would be that her points were not ridiculous in the slightest. point 1 is social proof. shes saying that she is using it, but also suggesting that he do likewise. point 2 is a neg point 3 is holding a positive frame point 4 is spontaneity and leading the interaction point 5 is how to properly give a compliment, when the situation calls for it point 6 is kino. SHE SAID KINO point 7 there can be legitimate contention on. personally I can safely say that once attraction is …
/r/seduction28/02/11 10:08 AM
13

the strangest thing is that her points were quite valid. they were almost completely in line with seduction material. like i posted in this thread, this is what it looked like to me: girl: hey guys, i went out with a male friend and he didn't do any of the stuff you guys say to do all the time, and I wasn't attracted to him because of it! You guys are right, you should keep doing what you are doing because all of those things attract women! guy: wtf you are high maintenance. plus women don't kno…
/r/seduction28/02/11 09:59 AM
5

indeed it was, and indeed i do
/r/seduction28/02/11 09:15 AM
1

only for humor purposes
/r/seduction28/02/11 09:14 AM
16

did... did she really think katy perry deserved it? I mean even if arcade fire wasn't up for it then lady gaga or eminem still should have... my god... I may have walked away. HER: "All guys are just heartbreakers anyway." HIM: "What about me? I'm not!" (a pretty typical response that I would expect any average guy out there to throw out, given the situation) ME: "Yo, I am though. Beware." and then I throw her a sly look. GAME OVER
/r/seduction28/02/11 08:27 AM
8

an unforseen downside to the size of seddit, most likely... I'm pretty sure that roissy and rooshv are the most popular seduction blogs out there. we've probably got an army of citizen renegades on our hands, throwing around veiled misogyny under the guise of biological truth. I was sort of OK with some of the more insightful comments that attacked her (I expect a little girl bashing when they enter man-turf), but the fact that "whoa ur hi-maintenance" and "i would never date you" were up there …
/r/seduction28/02/11 08:20 AM
22

*looks at username ಠ_ಠ
/r/seduction28/02/11 08:14 AM
1

women seem to expect good men these days! the nerve.
/r/seduction28/02/11 08:11 AM
1

would that be her fault or yours
/r/seduction28/02/11 08:11 AM
1

"conservative view" =/= negative attitude, as you imply. something that's always bothered me about r/sex and 2x is when they get on their high horse about how gender is all socially constructed and such, and toss evo psych out the window since it can't be tested. I'd assume that most of heterosexuals conform to gender norms, not because they have to, but because they want to and are comfortable that way. and as David Dieda put it, homosexuals are often even more attuned to the differences in sex…
/r/seduction28/02/11 08:09 AM
1

fundamental flaw here - what women want and what they say they want isn't going to work when the female sources are either: mainstream women's media (cosmo, the view, etc.). a woman you are trying to seduce. The former produces mass-digestible schlock so it is essentially worthless, while the latter owes you no such favor in regards to telling you what she wants. She's there to test your worthiness, and the test is not open book. now, a woman on an internet forum rambling is also to be taken wit…
/r/seduction28/02/11 07:58 AM
2

http://www.practicalpickup.com/meeting-women-online
/r/seduction28/02/11 06:39 AM
1

Awhile back, unsexyMF posted a link to one of this guy's articles that listed "state control" as one of the most overrated things in pickup, while stating that "90% of game comes down to handling emotions." I thought he had contradicted himself, but in this article he goes on to explain further what he means. Kind of sad really, how hard he takes down 20 hours of RSD material in a single blog post.
/r/seduction28/02/11 05:41 AM
2

yea i dont like it either. and im pretty skinny. DONT WORRY im subscribed to r/fitness
/r/seduction28/02/11 04:56 AM
2

disregard deserts acquire rain
/r/seduction28/02/11 03:51 AM
9

you did well. a mistake some often make when gaming a girl from AFC past is calling too much attention to "hey look at meeeeee ive changed im cool now." I did this once. just as bad, if not worse, than AFC mode. so good job on that. essentially there was too much meta-communication going on about the seduction. I've found that unless you are very good, this will kill attraction. The verbal is supposed to mask the non-verbal, not call attention to it. something about pointing to the lips and esse…
/r/seduction28/02/11 03:45 AM
1

i tried to keep it fair in my reply, but i really dont know. I dont feel like i switched sides, its pretty clear from an objective standpoint that her post lines up with most of seduction curriculum. and the things that don't are noted as such.
/r/seduction28/02/11 03:45 AM
2

do you get money if we go to r/fitness or something? i feel like youre a salesman
/r/seduction28/02/11 03:33 AM
15

HIVEMIND LOVE WOMEN HIVEMIND HATE WOMEN
/r/seduction28/02/11 03:29 AM
2

juicy thread you got here. I wouldn't worry about the misogyny, or perceived misogyny. you've essentially outlined why a physically attractive, fit, and otherwise "together" male failed to attract you, with numbered points related directly to seduction teachings/materials. There is little to suggest that you were being consciously shallow, or even unconsciously shallow for that matter. Guys here often go through what I call "the roissy phase" and see any and all actions of women as dictated by p…
/r/seduction28/02/11 03:28 AM
1

whoa when did they make you a mod
/r/seduction28/02/11 02:09 AM
1

hahaah sometimes i do that on their heads. any girls that are like 5'5" and under i can use their heads as an armrest. they always comment on it in that way that verbally says it bothers them but nonverbally you can tell they love the shit out of it. i just pat their head, and agree+amplify with an absurd, over the top apology
/r/seduction28/02/11 02:08 AM
2

posture is key. paul rudd was talking about it with jon stewart in an interview, how some people are like 5'10" but they look 6', and vice-versa. it's in how you carry yourself, and if you carry yourself (or have proper sitting posture - it doesnt matter what your position is, just how you're holding yourself) then you utilize all of your height. height is a gift, man. use every inch of it proudly.
/r/seduction27/02/11 10:01 PM
2

how badly I want to do a day-long, Santana-esque drum solo on them. I get her number at the party and I'm on my way. thats funny, i like girls with nice legs and asses and try to do santana-esque guitar solos in between their legs. She leaves with her friends (tease...), and she tells me later in the week that she wants to hang out soon. I'm already dancing with another girl by the time she leaves. She notices. correct sir you win an internet. your physical escalation was nice. i've never read a…
/r/seduction23/02/11 04:56 PM
6

ive said this before and ill say it again - seduction is about getting laid. "self improvement" allows for more consistent results with better quality women, and with more of a connection (which usually makes the sex better). but turning up the heat in a room is likely to make a girl take a thick layer off, reveal some skin, feel a little more sexy, etc... ps you sound like a douche bitching about someone "making it harder" for the "regular joes."
/r/seduction23/02/11 04:55 PM
1

assuming youre in the great city of philadelphia... im into it. i got a lot of shit coming up though - moving into a new house, starting a new job blah blah blah. i probably wont be settled in for a while, like till the beginning of april. bu i figure, ill be nice and cozy by then, the weather will be nice... perfect time to get out there and hit it hard. where in philly are you? j/w.
/r/seduction21/02/11 04:50 AM
2

this joke is funnier on seddit
/r/seduction18/02/11 11:01 PM
0

I think a lot of guys would be annoyed by his dress. oh shit did i accidentally stumble into r/gayseduction
/r/seduction18/02/11 09:13 AM
3

hi my name is chumpta and i went out for 4 weekends in december and got laid three times. all the lays fell apart - the only one that had any day 2,3,4 potential had to be nexted. I laid low for awhile. even on here. well no more of that bullshit. time to get my ass in gear. HERE IT COMES
/r/seduction18/02/11 07:05 AM
2

+100 nice work
/r/seduction18/02/11 07:00 AM
2

yes, perhaps there was something in my tone that sounded like i was trying to discourage you from taking any action. I apologize, that's not what i meant to say. by all means attempt to experiment and see if you can make something of this, but don't expect anything of it. she waited a very long time. a month and a half! it seems at first glance to be careless, that she's got OH SO MANY guys attempting to contact her. But if you haven't deleted a message after 6 weeks, you've kept it around on pu…
/r/seduction18/02/11 01:21 AM
5

total trap broseph. even if she wants casual sex you still have to game her properly.
/r/seduction17/02/11 11:16 PM
0

dear lord
/r/seduction17/02/11 06:39 AM
6

lets say im looking to get a pickup book or take a bootcamp. why should i pick lovesystems over any of the other companies?
/r/seduction16/02/11 03:18 AM
1

youve got the idea
/r/seduction11/02/11 11:40 PM
1

war=over delete her # and her facebook if you have it, cut all contact off. not to look cool or aloof to her or anything, do it for yourself. it may feel good, surprisingly.
/r/seduction11/02/11 10:17 PM
1

other than that i am thoroughly enjoying his site
/r/seduction11/02/11 12:08 AM
2

90% of game comes down to handling emotions Things that are vastly overrated, if not completely useless: state control ಠ_ಠ
/r/seduction10/02/11 08:08 PM
2

how do i get this one girl: seddit :: its easy cause youre in japan: tofutofu
/r/seduction10/02/11 07:44 PM
7

ugh i completely 100% agree with this but i seriously cannot stop. i've tried so many times and i still wind up giving in at least once a day. sedditors plz leave some tips for not jacking it, if youve got any.
/r/seduction10/02/11 08:23 AM
1

also: you don't have a right to insert yourself into a woman's night, but you have the right to attempt it
/r/seduction09/02/11 07:11 PM
14

men have abandoned asking for consent because asking for consent verbally is unattractive, whereas determining consent via other modes of communication IS attractive
/r/seduction09/02/11 07:10 PM
3

any "middle path pickup" would require that you go cut your teeth on women outside of your social circle to calibrate yourself, so that you know how far you can push with this or that type of girl.
/r/seduction08/02/11 04:57 AM
3

THE ABSOLUTE WORST THING THAT WILL HAPPEN IS THAT YOU WILL COME ACROSS LIKE A NORMAL GUY. Think about that. Normal guys are boring and awkward around hot women. So even if you crash and burn and are boring and awkward, YOU'RE NORMAL, CONGRATULATIONS. i have never, ever, ever thought of it this way. you start reading these books and you think you're supposed to be better than normal. i feel relieved lol
/r/seduction08/02/11 04:50 AM
1

um they come off eventually too, so there's always that. other than that the advice in this thread is good. also you can use it to get younger girls lol
/r/seduction03/02/11 06:49 PM
1

yea. the real question is, why would you think it wasn't?
/r/seduction03/02/11 02:35 AM
1

is there at least some indication that a picture was sent? like a message that says it can't read it, or a bunch of weird symbols?
/r/seduction03/02/11 12:59 AM
1

yea i just saw the phrase "pushing 40" in there and assumed.
/r/seduction02/02/11 09:55 PM
1

it's really hard to get over AA. it takes a long time. and once you get over it, it's not like you broke it open and now you'll always be able to approach. you have to do it every time you go out.
/r/seduction02/02/11 09:13 PM
1

she's alright for her age. pushing 40. she's got some milfyness to her
/r/seduction02/02/11 09:12 PM
2

when youve got a girl with no game you want to tone down yours. unless you have none. in which case you should pump SOME game into it. agree with the suggestion to talk with the other guy as well. don't just be seductive, be social as well. ramp up your seductiveness when you're more isolated. find out stuff she likes. ask her to do something outside of class that you BOTH like. you could also "study," or walk with her somewhere, or to lunch, etc.
/r/seduction02/02/11 09:07 PM
2

trollface.jpg
/r/seduction02/02/11 09:04 PM
0

of all the threads to be in...
/r/seduction02/02/11 09:03 PM
3

it's funny, i dont really recognize any of the names in this thread...
/r/seduction02/02/11 09:00 PM
18

warning: only use when totally in state like whoa
/r/seduction02/02/11 04:58 AM
1

sweet. how long are you going to make us wait until you tell us who our next guest is?
/r/seduction01/02/11 07:17 AM
1

how could i forget the 2x war, thats why i aint got my kneecaps no more. i think one of the biggest things about this subreddit is how many people I see linking to it in askreddit, sex, and other such subreddits whenever a post deals with girl issues. not that i don't think people deserve help or whatever, but it annoys me now. i probably did it once or twice even. I agree too with the fact that the mission statement needs to be changed, but so many people are ditching the phrase "pickup artist.…
/r/seduction01/02/11 07:11 AM
1

while we're on the topic, how do i pull half-australian, half-chinese girls with lesbian parents, C-cups, and a law degree?
/r/seduction01/02/11 06:31 AM
0

you dont really need to recognize IOIs. there are girls who won't give off any (or any that are detectable) and there are girls that have learned to fake them so that they can continue to suck attention out of you. but if a girl is not into you she will give off IOD's. it's better to learn these so that you don't waste time in bad sets. assume attraction unless you are getting really bad IOD's. if she calls you, invite her to one of your latin org things, or for lunch or something. i know i just…
/r/seduction01/02/11 06:28 AM
1

im just assuming they're all true noobs. actually i honestly thought they all were. are there people really making up AFC scenarios just to troll seddit? why would you troll in such a way that makes you look like such a whiny pussy?
/r/seduction01/02/11 06:23 AM
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agree with # 2 in some ways. but the proper attitude from whence good responses spring forth is not something easily communicated or quickly applied IRL. I disagree with it fundamentally but see little harm in throwing out some witty responses as examples, and to grant some humor to the intermediate and advanced sedditors. as for #1, i would say WELCOME TO THE INTERNET, but i cannot blame you at all really, i too get quite frustrated with the trolls. but it should be noted that people coming to …
/r/seduction01/02/11 04:44 AM
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if you're asking if it CAN work then yes! there are lots of things that can work, even if not recommended. i know a kid who texted a girl 3 times in a row without a reply and got her out one night. i just had a text fall flat with no reply. am i going to try again? you bet your ass. so many things could be happening - she's busy, some type of tech fluke where she didn't get it, she got it and read it but couldn't text back at the time/answer the phone. maybe she doesn't want to talk to you right…
/r/seduction01/02/11 04:41 AM
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thanks bud
/r/seduction30/01/11 09:06 PM
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lol im calm. i wasn't making fun of you. there are plenty of people who won't try it because they don't think it will work. i was making fun of them. fwiw i hate those videos too.
/r/seduction30/01/11 05:32 PM
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just puttin down something i saw on 4chan, nothing more, nothing less
/r/seduction29/01/11 08:57 PM
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the real issue is, how do you let it affect you? a lot of the replies here are somewhat witty, and certainly assertive, but they all are reacting to her behavior in one way or the other, as opposed to her reacting to yours. she's probably texting during a lull in the conversation. do what you would do during any lull. relax, sip your drink, enjoy just chilling there. that's the kind of guy she'll want to keep talking to when she takes her nose out of her phone. and if she's taking a long time, s…
/r/seduction29/01/11 05:55 PM
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kinda fuzzy here. the reasons are probably in the details. were you touching her and stuff?
/r/seduction29/01/11 05:54 PM
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jolly good. this damn near settles the canned vs natural debate, if i do say so myself.
/r/seduction29/01/11 05:48 PM
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i say we strike them all from the record
/r/seduction29/01/11 05:45 PM
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well what made you unattractive here? was it the fact that you were bad at bowling? lord knows bowling skill ALWAYS translates to "small penis, bad in bed, and low sperm count." girls don't give a shit if you're bad at something. any attraction you lost (or failed to gain) was due to the fact that you gave a shit that you were bad at bowling. you were in your head worrying about what they were thinking about you, and your bowling skill. and THAT my friend, made you unattractive. my advice would …
/r/seduction29/01/11 05:45 PM
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i'm a fan. i imagine it would work for all ages. may even work better for older folks. everybody wants to feel like a kid.
/r/seduction29/01/11 05:42 PM
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as you will undoubtedly find out, sex is not really that big of a deal. i came off of a 4-year dry spell and found myself finally, FINALLY balls deep in a vagina and i was having the strangest thoughts, one of which was (i shit you not) "oh man i kinda have to pee." but im sure it's essentially useless information, sex will still seem like at least a medium sized deal to someone who hasn't had it. i wouldn't recommend drastic measures such as an escort, not because i would be judging of the beha…
/r/seduction29/01/11 05:40 PM
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what would you do if you got a text in front of her? would you pull it out and text back? i probably would. what would you expect her to do? what would you WANT her to do?
/r/seduction29/01/11 05:35 PM
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it must be really whack adding that whole "trying to figure out someone's sexual orientation" thing into a pickup. props to you, and keep smilin'.
/r/seduction29/01/11 05:33 PM
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Would the hour and a half car ride kill the attraction or just be way too awkward? well if youre framing the question that way i'd imagine you would have an awkward car ride, yes. someone who enjoyed the company of this girl would look forward to the time spent in the car that you could use to talk to her and learn about her. take a chill pill brotha, take a girl to a concert. the worst thing that can happen is that you'll learn something.
/r/seduction29/01/11 05:29 PM
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we were on the dance floor, everyone was dancing but the girls I was talking to earlier didn't seem interested at all your state was dependent on the girl's attention and interest. your state needs to be independent of external validation. this is the reason you were frustrated, and why the whole rest of your night went poorly. but having good state that's independent of external validation is hard to pull off if you are only on your 2nd FR. for where you are at, getting comfortable with kino is…
/r/seduction29/01/11 05:26 PM
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thats absurd, i'd rather be skeptical about it to a ludicrous degree of certainty and tell other people on the forums dealing with it that they are wrong. i'm a redditor, and scientific rigor only matters when i want it to
/r/seduction29/01/11 05:22 PM
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someone downvoted you. THIS ANGERS ME
/r/seduction29/01/11 05:22 PM
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aw you feel complete with her? i feel so fucking warm and fuzzy inside she's literally the closest thing to the girl of my dreams that I've ever met. lololololol remember, you are being a big pussy right now. if you stick around here, one day you will look back at this post and either want to vomit or travel back in time and punch yourself in the dick. in fact you may want to do it now just to be safe. I'm sure her other male friends can take much better care of her than I can. well, do you want…
/r/seduction29/01/11 05:21 PM
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BUT ITS LOVE
/r/seduction29/01/11 05:18 PM
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for fucks sake you don't ever tell a girl how you feel unless you've already been in a relationship for a while and you are relatively certain she feels similarly.
/r/seduction29/01/11 05:16 PM
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how many ohms her panties are lol. other than that though i wouldn't give a fuck about what they think about PUA. i go off on tangents sometimes when im drunk and my friends call it "my sex science." i don't use much jargon but i get pretty detailed about the concepts. they used to think it was funny when i wasn't getting laid. i think they are starting to wonder now.
/r/seduction29/01/11 05:14 PM
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yea i get it, and i try to do that. i haven't kicked jealousy to the curb yet, im working on it. it's just that sort of thing, like im going through it right now, and i feel like everything i see on seddit speaks to it. I don't even have real reason to think she's seeing anybody else, i was just a little too reactive one night and didn't get to take her home. so now im just waiting it out for a bit.
/r/seduction29/01/11 12:02 AM
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ah don't we all sometimes
/r/seduction28/01/11 11:58 PM
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-or- you could sit in the front row and get heckled and take it LIKE A BOSS. I ended up F-closing her right there in the bar. Good story. fuck i thought your title was a typo. nicely done sir. After the F-close, I decide I still want to spend more time with her tonight, so I ask her to come back to my place. She's initially resistent, RESISTANCE WTF. YOU JUST FUCKED HER. sometimes just when i think im starting to understand these girls...
/r/seduction28/01/11 11:54 PM
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It seems I only intimidate now when I attempt to attract and qualify girls that meet my interest. In contrast, when I give praise it is received as a gracious gift. well you know what you're doing consciously. perhaps you should dial some of that stuff down. or perhaps: Still even though I have received respect in this endeavor of social improvement, I feel only still as an anomaly. you really don't believe that you deserve the success, or can handle it, and you're shutting yourself down by not …
/r/seduction28/01/11 11:51 PM
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man, i hate assuming she is seeing other guys. but i like assuming that she was ALREADY seeing those guys before she met me, and that i have more game than them. lol ego :/
/r/seduction28/01/11 11:44 PM
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go ahead and take the pro tips about what to say but remember that your final goal shouldn't be "what do i say to this person to get them to X" but just saying whatever the fuck you want and being so in the zone that it won't matter.
/r/seduction28/01/11 11:41 PM
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Me: good job confusing me today, now i dunno what to think about >Brittany. Brandy: Call me :D "Look, Brandy, you KNOW that I like you. Why do you need to discredit this other girl? I'm sorry I don't meet your age requirements for men and that I'm not a distinguished gentlemen" :| you should have never said this. what about "i have doubts about this girl now that you planted them" followed by "call me" and attempts to belittle that other girl don't you understand? So, I'm confused as to the moti…
/r/seduction28/01/11 11:39 PM
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I think if she cheats on you then you should break up with her. i think if she doesn't then you shouldn't. and i think you should assume that she doesn't. assume the guy has no game. this kind of stuff is a form of congruence test. it's designed to bring out your insecurities, should they exist. Don't have any, or don't show them if you do have them. The insecure BF becomes an excuse to cheat, not a deterrent.
/r/seduction28/01/11 11:29 PM
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openers are the least important part of your game. don't be so focused on the verbal aspect of it. if you really want to know what kind of eggs this girl likes, it will open (unless there is something about her that makes her genuinely unreceptive. in that case it won't matter how good your opener is).
/r/seduction28/01/11 11:25 PM
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oh no technology! NOBODY WILL EVER HAVE SEX AGAIN. time to put on your big boy pants and experiment with different methods.
/r/seduction28/01/11 11:22 PM
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not that im aware of. read the sidebar if you havent already, just lookk for stuff that seems to be relevant and write in details. don't be afraid to make it long. you say you want to know what you could do better, is there anything you feel you did poorly that we could address? (and even if so i wouldnt worry about it TOO much, your interaction appears to have gone quite well.
/r/seduction28/01/11 06:34 AM
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there's not a lot of detail really. from what youve written, you did everything right.
/r/seduction28/01/11 06:28 AM
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Thoughts? "awesome"
/r/seduction28/01/11 06:24 AM
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i liked it but there is something about it that seems like it's "overcomplicating" things. That, coupled with the fact that upon meeting a girl it is hard to get a read on the factors that decide her sexual personality (and in fact she may mislead and flat out lie about others), makes it seem like the ideas in the book are best in theory rather than practice. however, i will probably come back to it once my skills are better.
/r/seduction28/01/11 06:00 AM
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"right action was taken that day." and with such a simple opener nonetheless. i think mystery would have gone in with magic tricks or something.
/r/seduction28/01/11 05:57 AM
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same. i ask because it hits with such a high percentage (seriously so far 100 fucking percent [knock on wood]), that if she didn't give me the number i'd consider it a big enough IOD to eject and next.
/r/seduction28/01/11 05:31 AM
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oh hush up you did fine. next time youre on the bus with her smile at her. if she smiles back then start talking again. if she tries to ignore you then try talking to her anyway.
/r/seduction28/01/11 05:28 AM
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get teased? grin and bear it. also this girl seems like a sort of anomaly. she seems weird, and like her teasing is sort of some old hold-over reflex from when she was younger. it's childish. pay no heed to it.
/r/seduction28/01/11 05:26 AM
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i have pectus excavatum. LOOK IT UP. i used to think girls would think it was weird. so far every time my shirts been off they either didn't notice it or ignore it and didnt care. i work out now a little and work on my posture so it's not as bad as it used to be. take what steps you can to correct your posture and overall fitness. when you've done all you can, if you can't fix it, then fuck it.
/r/seduction28/01/11 05:23 AM
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this is textbook. not that ive ever seen it in any textbook though. you should put it in one.
/r/seduction28/01/11 05:20 AM
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this might sound retarded but you display confidence by how you exist. then everything you do, all of your actions, words, postures, become a conduit for that real confidence. you can display confidence while being quiet, dressed poorly, and even with bad posture. not that you SHOULD. but if your confidence is real, and you've taken time to build it, it's always going to show in one way or another.
/r/seduction28/01/11 05:17 AM
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thank god for your martial arts training. if i had that i probably would have done all the shit you didnt do, like breaking his jaw and shit. i would have made him really regret coming at me. not that it's the right thing to do, i respect your restraint, but i doubt i'd be able to hold myself back after such a ridiculous display of tool-baggery.
/r/seduction28/01/11 05:14 AM
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I feel like having a unique cologne that smells good would be a real advantage in taking social interactions into more romantic interactions meh. it's the kind of thing that you will get a compliment on only after you've generated attraction. not that you shouldn't be smellin' sexy, just doubt it's a significant advantage.
/r/seduction28/01/11 05:09 AM
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love your comment and your name. wish i had more upvotes
/r/seduction28/01/11 05:07 AM
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NOPE
/r/seduction28/01/11 05:06 AM
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You can take some of the one-liners from here and they will work if your frame is strong enough, but ultimately you want to develop your social skills to the point where you legitimately do not care when shit like this happens. you can fake unreactiveness and get away with it but true unreactiveness is the best way to go. just imagine her face when she attempts to insult you and you didnt even hear her.
/r/seduction28/01/11 05:06 AM
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I call an hour later, no response. Another hour, Then I send her a text-- Pretty lame [name]. I'm going to bed. youre being too reactive. I don't know if i'd call it a method but when i get flakes i keep trying, but each subsequent flake i wait a longer time between contacting her again. if i find myself waiting a very long time, i ditch her, (or just accidentally forget about her). I also try to do this with other unacceptable behaviors as well. she may not know why she is being "punished" per …
/r/seduction28/01/11 05:03 AM
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honest question - has a girl ever NOT given you her number when you just hand her the phone? i don't even say anything usually, i'll verbally imply it at most.
/r/seduction28/01/11 04:57 AM
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I responded, 'I was keen to get to the bar to see my friends'. Not sure if that was an AFC response or not. well like anything, it's how you say it. it didnt read very AFC though. 'I'll make an exception this time', and bought her a shot. lol nice HB8 was holding my hand, and giving me IOI's. I knew this was my chance now. She asked if I wanted to smoke, and I agreed, I held her hand, and took her to the smoking area. AW YEAH here comes the KCLOSE There we managed to talk about random things, ki…
/r/seduction28/01/11 04:54 AM
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too bad i can't italicize it. lack of italics in facebook and text is killing me, smalls.
/r/seduction26/01/11 07:17 AM
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oh god now i want this one chick to flake, she's short and i tease her for it all the time.
/r/seduction26/01/11 07:17 AM
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formereeyore's suggestion is good. attaching a lighthearted nickname to the text would likely attach a sense of lightheartedness to the whole thing. it's got me thinking of other things that would probably be taken humorously... "you can't make it tonight? oh no, how can i ever go on?"
/r/seduction26/01/11 06:49 AM
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its the problem with the line, you cant text "lightheartedness." she could read this anywhere from lighthearted to pouty to angry edit: how can i have some more of nothing? fucking love that movie.
/r/seduction26/01/11 06:45 AM
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i think this would work with proper intonation. however it's a text reply so you can't. it's not exactly "terrible" by my estimation, but there are perhaps better things you can do. it seems like he field tested it. also guys hate when plans get canceled because we don't really do it much. it's why they are called "plans." you set aside time in the future so that you know you can get together. women seem to think of plans as a lot more flexible... mood based as you say.
/r/seduction26/01/11 06:40 AM
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you're killing me, smalls!
/r/seduction26/01/11 06:32 AM
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"not that there's anything wrong with that"
/r/seduction26/01/11 05:52 AM
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like a boss. philly represent
/r/seduction26/01/11 01:59 AM
3

the game is always played whether conscious or not.
/r/seduction25/01/11 09:16 PM
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start with the back of your hand on her upper arm when you're making a point/emphasizing something. hard to object to. move to palm of your hand on her upper arm. then to knee. retract if she's uncomfortable with any of these, but go for it again within 5-10 mins. perhaps even shorter
/r/seduction25/01/11 07:27 PM
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its a constant struggle my brotha
/r/seduction25/01/11 07:24 PM
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well male nurse doesn't have half the stigma it used to. people dont care about that anymore, healthcare is a huge industry, and it's one of the few that's not doing terrible in the recession.
/r/seduction25/01/11 07:23 PM
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i really dont mean to sound like a dick but have you ever seen savoy? he is a pretty goofy looking dude IMO, one of the least good looking puas
/r/seduction25/01/11 07:09 AM
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fwiw i lol'd
/r/seduction25/01/11 07:08 AM
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or jim morrison, who is sexy without also looking like a complete homo. :D i see what you mean though, and i agree. pickup at its finest is an attitude, not a set of moves.
/r/seduction25/01/11 05:33 AM
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i agree with the abundance mentality thing, and i know there will be other girls, but im kind of sick of my girls lasting me such a short time. i wont be crushed, or unable to go on if i lose her, just disappointed. i'll find other girls, and i know this for a fact. it's happened before. it's often been said that rejections are worse the longer a girl has known you for. rejected in the first few minutes? no big deal, could be bad body language, or she's pissy. rejected after she's hung out with …
/r/seduction25/01/11 04:13 AM
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i fucked this girl the night i met her, before christmas. she hooked hard enough that she saw me again after her break. attraction was still there but these past 2 times ive seen her i havent had sex with her. my hopes are that she contacts me before she texts/calls me, but if not i will do it sunday. it's a full week since the last time i contacted her, it's not really that long. hopefully she sweats it as much as i was sweating it lol. i hate having to play these games sometimes but if it gets…
/r/seduction25/01/11 03:44 AM
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I think i'm devaluing myself by always being available. aaaahhh god that's exactly what tofu and cheddarchexmix said to me. im not calling/texting her till sunday, and neither are you! we've both got an important busy week/weekend. *brofist
/r/seduction25/01/11 02:55 AM
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Distractions make it possible to slip back into AFC mode without realizing it. ahhh dont i know it. im getting better but i find the more time i spend with the same girl the more afc comes out. it's ok for a little to come out but it's leaking out too fast. you seem to be going slowly backwards with this girl. this is the exact same thing thats been happening to me with this last girl. one similar thing we have going is that we hung out with our girls on days very close to each other. don't be a…
/r/seduction25/01/11 02:12 AM
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what's changed in the seduction community since you started, and would you attribute this change to the evolving community or the changing tastes of women?
/r/seduction25/01/11 01:07 AM
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i would definitely ignore the "as friends" thing. seems like it's going well and she wanted to throw that out there like you said, as a shit test/ASD thing.
/r/seduction24/01/11 11:40 PM
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thanks. im going with yokhai's advice and extending the radio silence. i actually caved and sent something yesterday, but i just had to tease her about the jets losing. if she doesnt get to me first then i will text/call her on sunday and "downgrade" her to a weekday night again.
/r/seduction24/01/11 11:40 PM
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got it. thanks for your help
/r/seduction24/01/11 10:14 PM
1

im not sure i get it. you say she wants to keep me on the string till she wants attention from me and not to let her do that, but right after you said i should wait until she expresses interest for said attention?
/r/seduction24/01/11 09:33 PM
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think you could take a look at this one? not really an ltr yet but i want to keep her on the line for awhile.
/r/seduction24/01/11 09:05 PM
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have too much self respect for myself than to go to r/relationship_advice hahahh oh man. i agree with the other guys. i'm having a panic moment right now with a girl that im in even earlier stages than you are with this girl. the panic needs to be squelched, there is nothing to be gained from it. how to squelch this, i cannot say. im just trying to empty my mind of it all.
/r/seduction24/01/11 08:58 PM
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IOU's lol not sure if i'd go with a girl you just met to a 3 day ski trip. go with drinks this weekend, if she is really into you and mentions it like you should go, or flat out invites you, then it's cool. but if you really like skiing and want to go, just go for it. it's not like you'll be stuck with her, there are people you will know. and being on your game for 3 days is good practice. you should always be on your game. tl;dr, i really dont know! you can do either one.
/r/seduction24/01/11 08:51 PM
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like any inner game issue, it's best to try and forget about it. i realize this is like a million times easier said than done, but it's true. i'm having an inner game thing right now (not really related to looks but w/e) and i'm having a hell of a time forgetting it. i don't really know any tricks to make it easier. also there is this dude with some kind of bone disease i've seen in david d videos - he looks sort of like a midget but more like, deformed, and he's in a wheelchair. (totally drawin…
/r/seduction24/01/11 08:46 PM
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well i did answer it honestly. looking back it was a mistake because it sort of gave her the power to direct where it's going. i don't disagree with answering it honestly, but i should have answered it indirectly first, making her jump through the hoop, then answered her for real.
/r/seduction24/01/11 08:28 PM
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i've seen too many shit tests while not using "pua" to think they are a reaction to pua. pua is moreso a reaction to shit tests than the other way around.
/r/seduction24/01/11 06:30 PM
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hm i wonder if she thought it was bad
/r/seduction24/01/11 07:14 AM
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do you mean that they say, "night game is dead, long live day game?" yea. i never really got that phrase... just looked it up actually.
/r/seduction24/01/11 06:30 AM
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im not sure i've ever understood posts such as this. every once in a while something like this crops up - "night game is dead, long live night game." its all well and good to speculate on the nature of different game venues but this is just something ive never seen real evidence of in the field. like, night game? ALL OF IT? ALL clubs and bars are totally shot as pickup venues now? even as just theory that sounds retarded.
/r/seduction24/01/11 06:11 AM
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the only same night one night stands ive ever had were girls i met night gaming and outside of my social circle.
/r/seduction24/01/11 06:08 AM
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well it was a little more complicated than just "where is the relationship going?" essentially she verbalized that she didn't want to be just a booty call, that she wanted to hang out outside the bedroom as well. which i really was ok with but made the mistake of just saying yea that's cool instead of not answering it directly. among other mistakes. looking back i could have answered indirectly by exaggerating and making a joke about marriage or something.
/r/seduction24/01/11 06:05 AM
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Am moving close to her every 15 s dear god man, im inside her! i can't get any closer! good list though. saved, actually
/r/seduction24/01/11 05:37 AM
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hahahah. it's just funny cause i was planning on calling this girl on wednesday since ive only texted her so far. i am kind of falling behind with her and i need to mix it up i guess.
/r/seduction24/01/11 04:53 AM
2

is this field tested
/r/seduction24/01/11 04:16 AM
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Yeah it was probably more of a shit test, and based on your post here I think you failed it so she's retracted a bit. agreed, but im comforted by the fact that her whole discussion was framed by the phrase "i really like hanging out with you." I think your plan to have radio silence until Wednesday is good, although at this stage for me she would have downgraded herself to not be worthy of a Friday night date. i know, cause i have to push now - i pulled too much. just a question, why would you d…
/r/seduction24/01/11 12:37 AM
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most of my isolation is dance related. either i take her to dance or i am dancing with her and just take her hand and pull her somewhere. verbal isolation im not too great with. gotta think on your toes, are you at a booth? bring her to the bar to help you get drinks. at the bar already? go dance or smoke or something. push comes to shove i guess you could just say "Step outside/over here/whatever I want to show you something." you probably need a decent amount of attraction for that to play tho…
/r/seduction24/01/11 12:16 AM
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Our first guest has been confirmed as Savoy from Love Systems. WHAT
/r/seduction23/01/11 11:19 PM
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what is... this is... this should be in the sidebar
/r/seduction23/01/11 11:02 PM
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i love how you opened the 9. nice job all around.
/r/seduction23/01/11 11:01 PM
1

you also could have tried to isolate or at least get her further away from the friend
/r/seduction23/01/11 10:33 PM
1

protip for loud venues - use them to work on your nonverbal game also once conversation does get going, if you dont hear her just point to your ear like "what?" don't lean in to hear her better, get her to lean into you.
/r/seduction23/01/11 10:25 PM
5

this is why roissy hates "betas" so much. they fuck everything up for everyone else by creating entitled women. I need to reframe them, I need to bring them down to my level, I need to demystify attractive girls. step 1 in the reframe, dont bring them down to your level, bring yourself up higher than theirs. and maybe knock them down a peg or two just for fun.
/r/seduction23/01/11 10:16 PM
5

more like 40 year old virgin
/r/seduction23/01/11 10:15 PM
4

yes, i would like to ask you to lurk around here and pounce on the occasional jackass who thinks women are attracted mostly to looks.
/r/seduction23/01/11 10:14 PM
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god dammit, i needed this two days ago. failed a shit test about "where the relationship was going." answered directly. ah next time.
/r/seduction23/01/11 10:12 PM
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You are not offering much more value to her than a vibrator or a gay friend would. lol. looking back im also pulling way more than im pushing. The big problem here is she seems to be the one dictating the flow of the entire relationship. well tips on taking the power back? You need to make her think you are both out of reach AND an item. I can post more if you need ideas. yes please. and thanks for the response.
/r/seduction23/01/11 06:55 PM
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it should be worrying that you've now seen her twice with no sex. exactly what im worried about. it was 2 days real close together - possible period block? that's my most optimistic guess of course. started with you basically acknowledging that you had viewed her as more of a booty call, i honestly didn't view her as that - we were just on a "date" for christs sake, hanging out for 2-3 hours before i went to her place. looking back she didn't need to ask that question at all. then you agree to h…
/r/seduction23/01/11 06:53 PM
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i was with a friend in los angeles once, and on my way home i took a train. the train stopped in new orleans (and i love the shit out of new orleans) so i stopped there for the weekend. i live in the northeast, so i didn't know anybody down there. i just walked to bourbon street and wandered around. i had a great time. drunk people are easy to meet and befriend. try it out.
/r/seduction21/01/11 06:56 PM
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i like cuddling. but there is something to be said in terms of the power dynamic. are you cuddling like john and yoko? (warning: nsfw and also vomit-inducingly beta) or are you laying on your back with her head on your chest? there are middle grounds as well. just sayin'
/r/seduction21/01/11 06:49 PM
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about half the time when i "run out of things to say" i just say whatever im thinking about. act as if the girl asked you that question: "what are you thinking about." the other half i will let my silence hang there and wait for her to say something. if she is invested properly she will try to break some silences too. if not you can revert to saying what's on your mind, and building up some more attraction.
/r/seduction21/01/11 06:43 PM
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How do ya'll do it? i make it happen so often that it doesn't really matter anymore.
/r/seduction21/01/11 06:39 PM
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being an inconsiderate asshole beats being a polite beta, every time
/r/seduction21/01/11 06:19 AM
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the only maxim i've ever read in any PUA literature regarding arms is when it comes to holding a drink - most guys hold it in front of them, but thats defensive body language. try to think of what it would look like if there was no drink on your hand. i think in general though there is a happy middle ground with arms. you don't want to be stiff and have your arms never augment what you're saying, but at the same time you don't want to be flailing around. the former will make you seem either bori…
/r/seduction20/01/11 11:28 PM
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The theory is 95% shit. examples please
/r/seduction20/01/11 10:46 PM
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*nods only if its essentially involuntary. you dont want to look like a bobblehead and agree with everything she says. but you can nod when you do really agree with something. depends on context i guess - are you nodding to let her know you're hanging on every word, or are you nodding because she just said "x is the best album by y" and you feel the same way.
/r/seduction20/01/11 10:18 PM
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Kino just scares the living hell out of me. lol. i often forget how bad i had this. start by touching the back of your hand to a girl's upper arm. then move to the other side of your hand to her upper arm. try to do this when you emphasize stuff. seriously, back of hand -> upper arm is like the LEAST intrusive kino you can possibly come up with. get comfy with that and work from there.
/r/seduction20/01/11 09:14 AM
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they say that women are better at reading these signs, and i agree, but that doesn't mean that men suck at it. if you're anything like me, you see the signs already, you just ignore them so that you don't have to act. at least for the REALLY obvious ones. for the less obvious ones don't sweat it, there is a chance they could be fake anyway. beyond that, everyone else here gives some good advice on them. assume attraction. sighting IOI's is all well and good but it's better to be able to sight IO…
/r/seduction20/01/11 09:10 AM
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bro all that you can bro, bro
/r/seduction20/01/11 09:06 AM
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timesaver - more time for the ones who are into me learning experience - sometimes they ARE into you and you drop the ball. it's good to look back and see where you messed up. thickening of the skin - makes you tougher so that you can go up to more girls and create more good situations. AFC friends - get more used to being rejected around them so it's not "weird" when you just go up to girls, and it's not embarrassing when you walk back to them after a rejection. its just good to be rejected bec…
/r/seduction20/01/11 09:06 AM
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of all the seas ive seen that's my favorite sea
/r/seduction20/01/11 09:02 AM
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ive found that #closing is similar to Kclosing in that they are both awkward if you wait until the last minute. theres something about the close that makes you want to do it at the end. oh ill kiss her as we depart, it will make more sense. oh i will get her number as she leaves, it will make more sense. waiting till the end of an interaction for a kiss is more awkward than waiting till the end to get the #, but it still seems to give off the vibe that youre not assertive. why the hell not grab …
/r/seduction20/01/11 09:00 AM
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first of all upvote for the title, i lol'd for reals. secondly, why not? go for it, and if it feels like she wants to take it more seriously than you do, it's ok to just tell her that. and if not you wont need to say anything. odds are she will bring it up before you do.
/r/seduction19/01/11 06:04 AM
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I know this makes me sound like a total douche bag... but everyone ought to know that a bar hookups don't lead to committed relationships. tell that to dan savage
/r/seduction19/01/11 06:02 AM
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theory: proximity in the car. there's a little thing that 60 years of challenge talks about, saying that in seduction, less is more. simply by sitting near someone of the opposite sex there is going to be sexual tension. think of times youve been with a girl youre not really attracted to, but you got put very close together, or even touching. you probably felt a little something there, right? nothing crazy but there is always sexual tension between men and women. i think this is what pushed it o…
/r/seduction19/01/11 04:16 AM
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hahah oh man. many points. this is not the exact situation though. two girls making out in a bar is a totally different feel than two girls making out on your couch, with im assuming just you accompanying them. just as a guy and a girl making out in a bar takes a different tone than a guy and a girl making out on a couch. for reals though, many many points to you.
/r/seduction19/01/11 04:12 AM
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Come to find out, there was a history between Mel and John and he was trying to hook back up with her on this trip. Whoops! Not my problem. LOL. i hope nobody calls you a dick for doing that. i thought it was funny. you really do seem to know a lot of people in your town/city. or were you just picking the good spots where you know people? any ideas on what turned her from normal conversation to flirting with you? (i have a theory but i want to hear yours first.)
/r/seduction18/01/11 11:47 PM
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see? they were out of our league! /self fulfilling prophecy well i dont game when they are around, and when i bring them to places im gaming, i kind of just wander off. often i dance, they get separated cause most of them dont dance.
/r/seduction18/01/11 11:23 PM
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imagine if youve never heard of the game and you ask a girl her opinion on something, and she freaks out [or insert reaction here]. you have no idea whats going on. who's the real idiot here? assume she's never heard of PUA stuff. if she has, assume you've never heard of it. this will make her feel dumb and either apologize or continue her rant and look like a bigger idiot. or you could have fun with it: "yes, you got me. it must not be working because i left my giant fuzzy hat at home." (most p…
/r/seduction18/01/11 07:30 PM
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So your advice would be to acknowledge it but then don't comment on it at all? it's 2 girls making out you're allowed to enjoy it but don't get all frat bro or nerd on it, acting like its some huge deal and calling attention to it. you may comment on it if you like, "well that was nice" or something similarly unreactive. in terms of the setup, were you in the middle of talking to them when this happened? if you are mid convo with them it might be a little incongruent/awkward/counterproductive to…
/r/seduction18/01/11 05:37 PM
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look over for 3-5 seconds inspect indifferently return to conversation seriously, when a girl is attention-whoring (whether it be making out with another girl or sending a flurry of false IOIs your way) the worst thing you can do is bite and give her the attention. attention whores need to earn your attention, and the best way to make them do that is to get them to qualify to you with something real, not one of the standard tricks in the attention whore trick-bag. this doesnt mean you can't enjo…
/r/seduction18/01/11 03:56 PM
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no racial barriers (unless the girl is really racist). just cultural ones. the same problems of a conservative white girl will be met when gaming a conservative asian or black girl or whatever.
/r/seduction18/01/11 03:48 PM
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The big problem I am finding now is that I tend to be more of the beta male of the group. I suppose it is natural since everyone in this group of friends is older than me, but it is something that I still want to stop. this is going to take some time. i was the same way in high school. im 23 now and it's still slowly coming around. i'm almost there though, id say. one key is hanging with other people. gaming in front of these old HS friends feels weird because of what they expect from me. but pu…
/r/seduction18/01/11 03:45 PM
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Every FR and story on here is about #close, K-close and F-close. No one on here tells a story about a girl they LIKED. In short all I am mainly getting at here is that Wygant talks about connecting with women and everyone on here uses it to fuck them and then end the connection. Skewed. most of the girls i game, i like, in some way or another. my fuzzy feelings are not so relevant to the FR. but even if that's not the case, it doesn't really matter what we do or don't do with this material. you …
/r/seduction18/01/11 03:42 PM
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you got thrown under the bus. reading his side makes it seem like the right move, and based on his results it seems to have worked. you're going to have to shrug this off just like you would a rejection from a girl. i wouldn't wing with this guy again if i were you, not because i disagree with what he did per se but because you got off to a bad start and it will be hard to build something on this foundation. p.s. the unspoken rule is that the opener of the set picks the girl. when he's talking t…
/r/seduction18/01/11 05:54 AM
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I'm kinda busy right now ALPHA
/r/seduction18/01/11 05:33 AM
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i was once flaked on by a girl from your fine city. true story. ps you guys have a sweet fireworks show
/r/seduction18/01/11 05:22 AM
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Between both of our schedules and her getting sick we haven't got to go out for a second time yet but then about the middle of last week I get a text from my friend saying that his gf said to start ignoring the girl because she is being stupid and saying that she doesn't know if she wants to get committed into anything because she has no time between school and work, at the time I just screwed up my car so I wasn't in the mood to talk to the girl anyways so I stopped texting her and ignored her …
/r/seduction17/01/11 11:34 PM
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beyond not fucking up category 1 and navigating category 2 with style and grace, pickup also helps you recognize category 3, eject smoothly, and save everyone's time.
/r/seduction17/01/11 08:40 PM
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“There's no space.” “Haha, yeah...” Nod towards the wing's vacant stool. “You can have that stool, but it'll cost you five bucks.” Smile. “What about the shelf?” “That'll be another five bucks, or if you're nice.” “I'm very nice.” “Oh okay, then.” She puts her drink down and immediately holds out her hand “I'm Sam.” :) guys check it out he's found the sweetest opener in the world: "there's no space" i think your texting was fine. opened with callback humor, kept it short, used it to set up a mee…
/r/seduction17/01/11 08:25 PM
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"...there is one routine you can use in defense of the cockblock when you see it coming: 'I know exactly what your friend is going to do. In three minutes she is going to come here and try to take you away. And do you know why? Well, do you see her talking to a cool guy right now? If she was talking to a guy she likes, I don’t think she would worry about me talking to you. I don’t understand why girls prevent their friends from having a good time.' What you are doing is planting a seed in her mi…
/r/seduction17/01/11 08:13 PM
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vision is key to stopping a cockblock. as you said, they were literally dragging your target away. once this is happening there is little you can do (without looking desperate). this is why the cockblock must be seen first. once you figure out which one is likely to do such things you talk to her and dance with her and joke and such. don't kill it, you don't want her to think she's into you. We spot a 3 set with a HB8 and the other two were..pretty bad. you saw it already. no two "pretty bad" ch…
/r/seduction17/01/11 07:52 PM
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i like those. be wary of taking it too far with cheesier lines such as the old "say something random" and then when she says "huh?" you respond "oh i thought we were talking about things that don't matter." interestingly enough this response makes it seem like it DOES matter. ignore when you can. i had a girl tell me she had a bf once and i said "oh ok" as flatly as i could. almost absentmindedly, like i wasn't even thinking about it. i made out with her and probably could have fucked her on the…
/r/seduction17/01/11 07:45 PM
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This was probably not advisable (but it was her birthday?). The Birthday Exception. don't be afraid to make them work for it at least a LITTLE though. but not buying a bday shot is mildly rude if youre hanging out with her for an extended period of time. group cockblocks are hard. you did what you could do, tried to danc with all of them and be a general good time. honestly it seemed like it worked, really. they did, uh, invite you back to their place. probably not the greatest logistics with al…
/r/seduction17/01/11 07:42 PM
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well perhaps run this game even slower than usual? you probably wouldn't want her thinking you moved to a different country just for her. even if there are other reasons for your moving that are genuine, you won't want it to appear that way. and how long till you move to sweden? depending on that, it may be wise to pretty much let it drop, and "rekindle" when you move there. should be easy to open up, "hey x im in sweden, i need someone to show me around lets get drinks..." etc.
/r/seduction17/01/11 07:42 PM
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I was even slightly offended when Cheddarchexmix called me out in response to the first post. lol I approached women easily, and I touched them easily. They seemed very comfortable with me, and I could get them to comply with such simple things as taking a girl's hand, spinning her so that she was facing away from me, and have her grind her ass into my crotch as a song played over the stereo. aaawww. you still in southern-baptist land? if not i bet they're melting from your accent, aren't they. …
/r/seduction17/01/11 07:34 PM
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I know. I know. I shouldn't do anything with this and just move on. :| well if you know that you should know what to do. keep contact minimal, "ping" just to remind her that you're alive, and possibly interested. get her to let you know when she comes around (seems like she does that already). riddle me this - why are you trying to be in an LTR with a woman who lives a 2 hour FLIGHT away? is she moving to your area soon?
/r/seduction17/01/11 07:29 PM
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aw i went to post this on his original and his post was deleted. and this was so much fun to write, too :(
/r/seduction17/01/11 07:23 PM
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well i try not to. usually winds up being a waste of my time. no need to educate trolls who don't want to learn. but sometimes i get sucked in, in which case i like to pick apart their argument sentence by sentence. hmmm... If a girl is not into you there is no force in the world strong enough to change her mind. We need to define "not into you," and what she is basing her "into you-ness" on. If it is solely looks, then it is true that there is nothing you can do about that. but it's never solel…
/r/seduction17/01/11 07:18 PM
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Not enough kino and too slow. What's confusing: Was that really enough to convert me from an attractive guy to just a friend? thats pretty much what does it every time you've already got a chance. if you didnt have a chance to begin with you wouldn't even get far enough to make that mistake.
/r/seduction17/01/11 06:46 PM
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is LMR in the sidebar? if it's not it should be.
/r/seduction17/01/11 02:15 AM
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Holding hands and locking arms was pretty awesome, honestly. hahah i love putting my arm out for a girl to take. classiest way to be pimpin it. added benefits: it naturally brings out a really alpha posture/walk. it naturally sets up a good dynamic between you two (you standing there upright, her clinging to you). but i digress
/r/seduction16/01/11 06:48 AM
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I kiss her. Some other dude does, too. D: she LMR's indirectly because she lost her necklace and starts freaking. i wouldnt call that LMR thats more like an unforseen obstacle/cockblock. she's not actively resisting. LMR and biological obstacles prevent f-close, probably for the best. Hung over, FML. caaaaalm down buddy. we've all been there, i know it sucks. deep breaths, analyze your mistakes without emotion, save emotion for remembering your successes. the most important thing is you opened a…
/r/seduction16/01/11 06:31 AM
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oh duh
/r/seduction16/01/11 06:21 AM
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oh i know if im trying to seduce a woman i wouldn't be calling her out. i meant it more in a general sense of society and media portrayal. for instance if you told your sister or platonic female friend that this kind of behavior is wrong, you would be met with an explanation that rationalizes it by making it seem harmless, and subcommunicates that even if it were harmful, it's still kind of ok to do it.
/r/seduction16/01/11 06:21 AM
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lol im so cute when i take advantage of people <giggles>
/r/seduction16/01/11 05:37 AM
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actually not really. this particular situation's never happened to me. but it perfectly sums up that women, even "nice" women, have urges beyond their control, and react to certain situations in predictable ways. if you notice these and write them down or say them into a microphone you're a good comedian. but if you use them to your advantage in the dating market you're "manipulative." my poker face indicates not a disdain for the natural behavior of women, but for the fact that it's even mildly…
/r/seduction16/01/11 05:34 AM
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DW style whats that? I don't escalate beyond her lower back, except for the occasional hip grab. When I notice she's not hyper sensitive to it, I back off, and she responds with arm touches. Hmmm. if kino isn't working, id say you would notice negative signs. if it is working well you will notice positive signs. but just because she's not giving you doggy dinner bowl eyes and throwing her arms around your neck doesn't mean it's not working. and the next time you have to take a piss go take a fuc…
/r/seduction16/01/11 05:31 AM
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Confidence is a slippery little thing, once you've got it don't ever let it go
/r/seduction16/01/11 01:00 AM
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I disqualify her "this distance thing isn't going to work" while giving her a hug. Its too bad cause your really cute too - another hug. push pull is nice if you can do it at the same exact time. bitches love paradoxes. I give my girl a hug and kisses on the cheek and say I'll see you monday. SNL ddin't seem likely - way too early in the evening still and I didn't want attraction to die hanging around too long. excellent move. i also like the subtle detail of the kisses on the cheek - it's not a…
/r/seduction16/01/11 12:58 AM
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You'll find someone, I know it. And when you do, I'll be right by your side to suddenly become all flirty and affectionate with you in front of her, until she grows jealous and won't believe it when you say we're just friends. But when she dumps you, that's just what we'll be. :|
/r/seduction16/01/11 12:52 AM
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oh god this is what we're doing isn't it
/r/seduction16/01/11 12:52 AM
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id say im a 5 without game, a 6 with, and a 7 with game + dressed well. but im not really pulling higher than a 7 so far. to be fair im not pulling lower than 7 either. im content for now.
/r/seduction16/01/11 12:22 AM
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well then awesome show, great job. this is something about all FRs, that the level of detail can't get close enough to the level of detail IRL, which is why it's always best to learn the skills and attitudes yourself. so you can adjust in real time to the specifics of the situation. given these details i think you played the hand you had well.
/r/seduction15/01/11 09:54 PM
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Something that comes to mind for me is to just invite her to come along with me to the party I plan to go to... that wouldn't be beta, would it? hahahah no it wouldn't but that question came off as real beta. go ahead and do that, and this time if she has plans and cant go but offers an alternative day/time, go with it. also dont forget that if she doesnt go there will be other girls there.
/r/seduction15/01/11 09:54 PM
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it wouldn't have been if you'd done it right then, but to backtrack and change your mind might be beta. but you may be able to pull it off if you don't acknowledge last night.
/r/seduction15/01/11 09:30 PM
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the dhv "leader of men" needs to be changed to "leader of people." i've read before about how "alpha" is defined differently in humans as opposed to other animals. with other animals it's pure physical power. but with humans it's the power of numbers. people who inspire (or perhaps intimidate) other people to join their side and work together. a sense of how to interact with children is a part of that general quality.
/r/seduction15/01/11 09:28 PM
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but even beyond that really - you ever see swingers? how he says they won't ever call until you actually forget about them? shit like that. it's not real telepathy obviously, but women are well known for being better readers of nonverbal signals than men
/r/seduction15/01/11 09:23 PM
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i like your fr and your insights. i agree somewhat with onebit - let's have time tell whether the slow burn works or not. i think you could have had sex with her still, and it wouldn't have necessarily been "casual."
/r/seduction15/01/11 09:20 PM
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ಠ_ಠ
/r/seduction15/01/11 09:18 PM
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we learn from our mistakes, 07SS. youre lucky this one may not set you back at all. and remember you can be fake reluctant to choose a day that's not your first choice, but go with it eventually
/r/seduction15/01/11 06:34 AM
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whoa nice save. i think your best options were say nothing and acknowledge without apologizing. i also like how you followed up with more logistics, as though it truly was not a big deal whether you rubbed her the wrong or right way. i also think it is highly possible that she was not away from her phone and wanted to make you sweat after throwing something out that was so ballsy (hoping to smoke out a bluff) which is why apologizing is perhaps the worst thing you can do - bluff called, you lose…
/r/seduction15/01/11 06:28 AM
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i think 9 was nice and playful honestly, but in the context of "IM NOT HANGING OUT UNLESS ITS NOW" it's much less so. he could have still used that line even if he worked with her and agreed to meet tomorrow or sunday the problem isnt what he said, it's that he refused to work with her and set up a meeting that happened to be a day or 2 later.
/r/seduction15/01/11 06:16 AM
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a little, but she's trying to save her ego probably. either that or its a misunderstanding. she perhaps meant that she had track tomorrow morning, and couldnt come out tonight. then she suggested sunday because you couldnt come out tomorrow, not because she couldnt. either way it's kind of a moot point, she was helping you out. not really a loss though, you've just kind of left it where it all started - she's probably wondering why you were so obstinate. not a move id recommend to do on purpose,…
/r/seduction15/01/11 05:59 AM
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sidebar!
/r/seduction15/01/11 05:54 AM
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what cheddar said - closing anxiety. much is made about AA but there is anxiety at almost every phase of the game, but most particularly important advances - #,K,F closes (although with F closes it's a lot more about general escalation anxiety. once you are ready to go your anxiety's going to kill your boner, not your ability to put it in her.) the key is to not make a big deal out of all of those jumps, and phrase your verbal game as if it is not a big deal. because really, two people who want …
/r/seduction15/01/11 05:46 AM
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well im pretty sure the rule is you set down a time. if she says no because of a real scheduling conflict, and is still interested in seeing you, she will suggest an alternate time. which she did. you can tease about it a little (a la "Haha hey if you could tonight we wouldn't have this problem, ms. her last name") but you took alpha "im in control and im taking the lead and planning" too far and turned it into "i need to be in control and i get a little overbearing when my unbreakable schedule …
/r/seduction15/01/11 05:40 AM
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im telling you, theyre practically telepathic. after the first paragraph i was going to say, "i bet a girl told you that" I am not a big fan of 'gaming' girls it's the girls who are playing the game. if you want to win you have to play, sorry broseph. protip: it's a fun game, and after awhile, it's even fun when you lose.
/r/seduction15/01/11 05:34 AM
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almost sickens me as much as blue october I will keep calling you to see If you're sleeping, are you dreaming If you're dreaming, are you dreaming of me I can't believe you actually picked me
/r/seduction15/01/11 05:24 AM
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If you think girls don't have a sixth sense with which they can tell the difference, then you my friend are DEAD WRONG. i usually just assume they're telepathic, cause sometimes it really seems like they are.
/r/seduction14/01/11 08:41 PM
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Broment
/r/seduction14/01/11 04:03 AM
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yea i know you didnt say it but you at least considered it. you need to put this girl on the slow burn. wait around, be calm and confident. and above all you need to look for other girls while youre doing it. you need practice if you're not seeing signals like this. put her on the back burner and don't make a next move until you approach 10 other girls, or kiss 2, whatever arbitrary (but reasonable) goal you set. we're giving you tips on what to do with this girl and im slowly realizing you've g…
/r/seduction14/01/11 03:33 AM
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agree with a lot of stuff, disagree with not going to bars/clubs and the bookstore analogy. bookstores are great places to sell people books! people who like books go to bookstores. people go to bars and clubs to have fun and socialize. theyre more open to it but they have more options, so it balances it out. something always wack about ferriss... i can't put my finger on it. i like him yet don't at the same time.
/r/seduction14/01/11 03:24 AM
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hey i like memes. and the bro-talk is more funny than anything. im a pasty skinny white kid with long hair. I simply stumbled upon OP's cry for help on the new page and figured I would throw in my two cents. yea i was mainly responding because your reply consisted mainly of facepalm pictures with no real rebuttal. Brostantial lol a spot where I could learn to be more "Alpha" on reddit. most places on reddit will turn you into a mushy pile of beta. twox has some of the most sack i've seen in any …
/r/seduction14/01/11 01:55 AM
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but he's got 20+ upvotes! IT'S SUICIDE MAN *gives the knucks anyway
/r/seduction14/01/11 01:41 AM
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I find it kinda odd that there seems to be a consensious here that "don't break up other relationships". so do i. i don't disagree with it per se, but i don't hoist my moral opinions on others around here either
/r/seduction14/01/11 01:26 AM
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That's probably not the smartest thing to do. Go try and steal a steak from a lion. it's always up to OP to decide. thats why i tell people not to be moralizin. not because i don't agree with them, because here you're supposed to give tips on how to get girls, not decide which ones people can or can't go after. I'm not going to try and replace the machine, I'm going to eliminate the wrench. and so would i, and like it said it's up to OP to assess that risk, not us. i feel confident that most of …
/r/seduction14/01/11 01:17 AM
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isnt that all of them?
/r/seduction13/01/11 11:20 PM
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i try to keep it in stubble phase - i dont grow much around the cheeks but the goatee area is a little thicker. also this man enough to grow a beard, fashionable enough to cut most of it off, i say.
/r/seduction13/01/11 11:19 PM
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it's a good way to be. i can dig shy girls too, but when a girl throws stuff back at me like you said they usually get another few points.
/r/seduction13/01/11 11:16 PM
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advice: don't have a dream girl
/r/seduction13/01/11 11:15 PM
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i thought you knew exactly what was going on here! I'm pretty much just resigned myself to leave her alone until she approaches me. And if she doesn't, than so be it. no, youre not resigned to it, and you're not leaving her alone, you're waiting and playing it slow. all her hesitations, and her hand touching and all this shit... She hesitates a little and says, "yeah I guess, 4 years..." Again hesitantly she agrees sort of... I'm thinking great, this girl is still into her BF and she's just been…
/r/seduction13/01/11 11:13 PM
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Stop trying to ruin other peoples relationships. If the relationship she is in is already rocky to begin with, let him fuck up on his own and wait 'til she's single. Trying to steal her away will only end up with you getting hurt. or you can end it quickly, so that they waste less time in a dead end relationship. Start fresh relationships. Don't swoop in for spoiled meat when there's a perfectly healthy gazelle running around somewhere. (Be a Lion, not a Vulture.) women with boyfriends are not s…
/r/seduction13/01/11 11:06 PM
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hey that coming in from behind thing has worked for me on a few occasions
/r/seduction13/01/11 05:26 AM
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mystery used to actually use that, but with nails "nice nails... are they real?"
/r/seduction13/01/11 05:24 AM
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excellent. i saw it in my head like this: http://i.imgur.com/QK2uT.jpg
/r/seduction13/01/11 05:21 AM
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my few snls have either began with the girl implying that she doesn't want to see the night end (in some loose, vague way of course) which leads me to suggest her place or mine. others have been a simple "lets get out of here. let's see, i think i have something from an FR here somewheres... get up, dance again. sit down, kiss again. im leading it all. i remember hearing something about how settling into a bunch of dancing and making out can be counterproductive. i start asking about where she l…
/r/seduction13/01/11 04:34 AM
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a night where there wasn't really a chance to meet anyone, and a complete failure. no, complete failure is: sitting at home, pining about an ex-gf and being lonely all the time. baby steps. there is always a chance to met someone. A few 8's, some 6's? sounds like enough to me. it's hard at first, but it can be good to just go to these places and get acclimated, see what goes on - like lurking a forum/subreddit. a lot of the venues that i do well in are ones that i know my way around, and know wh…
/r/seduction13/01/11 04:28 AM
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"I can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take a butcher's word for it. "
/r/seduction13/01/11 04:24 AM
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It's been three months and I've been to hell and back. But I'm back. http://i.imgur.com/aE7Er.png
/r/seduction13/01/11 04:21 AM
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obvious lack of sidebar reading detected
/r/seduction12/01/11 10:47 PM
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Looking away when girls look at me, even if they are looking at me because they 'caught' me eying them up - This is beta weak sauce, the sign of a pussy. oh lord i used to do this all the time. then i replaced it with "don't look at her so she thinks you're not looking at her so she won't think you're into her and that will make you seem cool and she will be a little more attracted. i used to think this was a bit better strategy, but i realize it's just as bad or possibly worse. now when i look …
/r/seduction12/01/11 05:56 PM
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well you're in school and the same floor is a lot closer than most people get on a daily basis. what are you doing at night, when you're just hanging around the dorm? or when you go to dinner? i used to hang out with the kids in my hall all the time. the hug isn't set in stone, you can take it or leave it. a way to calibrate this could be a big happy "hey" when you see her and kind of ambiguously open your arms. if she gets close enough, reads it as a hug, and goes in for it you can take that as…
/r/seduction12/01/11 05:47 PM
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Throw Away
/r/seduction12/01/11 06:24 AM
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the term observer effect refers to changes that the act of observation will make on the phenomenon being observed. This is often the result of instruments that, by necessity, alter the state of what they measure in some manner. A commonplace example is checking the pressure in an automobile tire; this is difficult to do without letting out some of the air, thus changing the pressure. good, now imagine picking up girls with a camcorder in front of you. you don't have to believe us, but throw up s…
/r/seduction12/01/11 06:21 AM
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oh man, that was fun. most FRs are wall of text, for the record. ThrowawayPUA's are often three times longer than this, and only encapsulate one night. This is where I should've told her she was coming home with me, called a cab, and sealed the deal. I didn't realize it, but the attraction had peaked at that point, and I think that her trying to isolate me from the rest of the group was a signal that I missed. i wish blinking text was still legal. i'd also put a few tarmac workers next to it, wa…
/r/seduction12/01/11 05:31 AM
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In true reddit fashion, I've never k-closed or f-closed a girl it might look very similar, and it's only one letter off, but this is seddit. true seddit fashion is a lot different. i think you'll like it. now you just had a hot asian fall into your lap. play it cool, and don't be afraid to fuck shit up. youre at college, there will be other opportunities. but dont use that as an excuse not to make a move. it is your excuse TO make a move. in terms of particulars, when you meet up with this girl,…
/r/seduction12/01/11 05:17 AM
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worth clicking just for the caricatures
/r/seduction11/01/11 06:37 PM
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SNAP ITC
/r/seduction11/01/11 06:27 PM
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it's equal to the pain of me not having more upvotes for this post. not only is failing to act worse than rejection, but failing to act is your habit. rejection is not a habit, it's just something that happens when you put yourself out there. there's nothing wrong with YOU when you get rejected. but you need some work when you consistently fail to act.
/r/seduction11/01/11 06:23 PM
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oh yea, like the "I walk closer to the street on the sidewalk so i get hit by a car instead of you" move
/r/seduction11/01/11 06:01 PM
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ive always said that if he didn't have a not-wife and a daughter, he'd have no problem with his life whatsoever
/r/seduction11/01/11 09:46 AM
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If someone doesn't think you're hot, the next best thing for them to think is that you're ugly. whoah
/r/seduction11/01/11 04:46 AM
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chivalry is dead but its charm lives on through its moves
/r/seduction11/01/11 04:42 AM
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If you're a guy, posting anything on facebook is a DLV. i think gaming girls on facebook is a DLV, but using it? i think the facebook hate is getting out of hand.
/r/seduction11/01/11 04:35 AM
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she seems genuinely flattered, and hold out her hand. So I grab it, and then sort of play around with the idea that I'm supposed to be chivalrous, so I kind of bow, etc. it was a good opportunity to do one of those old-timey kissed on the hand. i've always wanted to do that to a girl dressed up like that. this however hasnt stopped me from doing it to girls who werent dressed like that. Me: Are you training for a marathon? Because you've been running through my mind ALL DAY! you are SO FUCKING L…
/r/seduction11/01/11 04:33 AM
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A few days ago i was at a bar with my friends, and i made the mistake of air guitar-ing the riff from "crazy on you". a large older gentleman, quite sloshed, took notice and rambled at me about it. it was funny at first but i saw him looking at me every time i looked over. i could feel him staring at me. now where i'm from isn't really gay-friendly, and theres not too many gay people. i have reason to suspect this guy was in the closet pretty deep, but only because i felt that if i walked out of…
/r/seduction11/01/11 04:07 AM
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Also interesting was how transparent and laughable most alpha attempts are. could you elaborate on this? what would constitute "unsuccessful alpha" attempts?
/r/seduction11/01/11 03:59 AM
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I also find myself doing this more often when... on MDMA i do a lot of awesome shit a lot more often when i'm on MDMA.
/r/seduction11/01/11 03:56 AM
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the term 'pickup technique' is a misnomer. all of them have already existed for as long as bodies or sex or language (depending on which they involve) have been around. they are never created, only discovered.
/r/seduction11/01/11 03:55 AM
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my brother and I, we're miracles - the only matter that's ever come back from beyond the event horizon
/r/seduction11/01/11 02:03 AM
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this reminds me of when i first looked at a guitar, and upon picking it up, a blistering blues solo poured forth from it. oh wait it took me 10 years to be able to play how i can now. well whaddya know.
/r/seduction11/01/11 01:10 AM
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well your confidence levels aren't as high as they should be, and your grasp of game is minimal. i'd say take the advice of everyone who posted here already, but with the knowledge that this most likely won't pan out. The other day my brother was asking me for tips on pursuing a girl. He hasn't had sex yet and he was asking me if he should get more experience with other girls before attempting to bang this one. "no, she will become her own experience. no pedestal, go for it and learn from it." i…
/r/seduction10/01/11 11:02 PM
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yea true. thats a good analogy. respect for the engineer
/r/seduction10/01/11 10:44 PM
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come at us bro
/r/seduction10/01/11 08:22 PM
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I do kinda wanna mention that I am seeing someone eh well she only said she kinda wanted to mention it. I was thinking just to reply "Meet me in the food court at 7" and just leave it at that. yup
/r/seduction10/01/11 08:21 PM
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for some reason, law #8 always shows up around here much more frequently than any of the other laws. Minutes later her gay friend joins the convo and they start talking about old times. I am part of the conversation still, but have nothing to say. Advice on this? "aren't you going to introduce me to your friend" if you already know the person interrupting, then honestly i don't have anything. anybody else care to step in
/r/seduction10/01/11 08:20 PM
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I put my arm around her and kino for a bit. Just then their ride shows up and they leave. Night #1 in Miami did not live up to my expectations. LOGISTIIIIIIIICS
/r/seduction10/01/11 08:00 PM
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moar of this attitude
/r/seduction10/01/11 07:52 PM
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stay thirsty my friends
/r/seduction10/01/11 07:47 PM
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ive always liked pete from the league. he's not great but he's got subdued confidence and he bangs hot younger girls.
/r/seduction10/01/11 07:45 PM
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NEXT
/r/seduction10/01/11 07:43 PM
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this is why a great way to approach is from the side, both of you facing the same way, instead of head on. i'll never forget mystery demonstrating that to a student - he walked right up to him, facing him. it looked like they both wanted to fight. agree with intjpua, i don't really see a conflict here.
/r/seduction10/01/11 07:37 PM
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sadly, word up magazine was not involved
/r/seduction10/01/11 07:37 PM
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Throughout his life, Harold had a superior ability to feel what others were feeling. He didn’t dazzle his teachers with academic brilliance, but, even in kindergarten, he could tell you who in his class was friends with whom; he was aware of social networks. Scientists used to think that we understand each other by observing each other and building hypotheses from the accumulated data. Now it seems more likely that we are, essentially, method actors who understand others by simulating the respon…
/r/seduction10/01/11 07:20 PM
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I know some of you will try to tell me that my game will improve if i stay sober, but don't waste your time. I like drinking too much. ALPHA My go-to move is usually to grab a drink, head to the middle of the dance floor, and dance like I own the place. If you look like you're having fun, girls tend to dance over in your direction. I grab her hand and we head to the dance floor over by some of her friends. I start by dancing without kino. I find this is a good move because it allows me to be mor…
/r/seduction10/01/11 07:25 AM
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you didnt read all of it! the last paragraph! this didnt actually happen, it was a dream. well, nightmare. im reading it again and it does look ambiguous...
/r/seduction10/01/11 07:02 AM
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oof sorry to hear that. well take your time and get your grief out then go make them genes proud
/r/seduction10/01/11 06:55 AM
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word. women are uncomfortable with extremes - she doesnt want you to break her legs and rape her but she doesn't want you to ask politely before you sneeze either. you were close enough to the middle to get the job done but you were leaning dangerously close to betaness. you had enough sack to move forward but you were asking for too much assurance before you made said move. you did well though, and if you can pinpoint those moments where you should have been more assertive, you're at least reco…
/r/seduction10/01/11 06:35 AM
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is this what lennon meant when he said the beatles were bigger than jesus?
/r/seduction10/01/11 06:00 AM
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it's hard to stop when your behavior and attitude is so very much LIKE A BOSS
/r/seduction10/01/11 05:59 AM
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oh man that was a really great FR but WHY DID YOU SAY THAT GIRL WAS BLACK WHAT ARE YOU RACIST BRO? whoah sorry, theres a little troll that lives in my fingers, won't happen again. Eventually, I just grab her hand and tell her she’s coming home with me. I walk her out and hail a cab and throw her in before she can even ask where we’re going. no words man, i just... what is this i dont even. i think you were the perfect amount of drunk.
/r/seduction10/01/11 05:57 AM
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At some point while dancing I start making little comments like "your pretty cute." and "You're gonna make this hard for me to stay out of trouble" after about a good 15 minutes of solid dancing teasing etc I start to kiss her on the dance floor. I think I might have done some neck biting first but its kind of a blur. We kiss a bit. And I stop. "You need to stop being so sexy". we dance some more, kiss some more. finally I say lets go down stairs and cool off. So Now I have isolated her from her…
/r/seduction10/01/11 05:54 AM
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whats with groundhog day today? posted in another groundhog day thread: you got stuck in a time hiccup and the only way out is winning over a woman's heart? sounds more like sci-fi one-itis to me.
/r/seduction10/01/11 05:48 AM
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well its a college setting so it's easier to get her back for more. have you fucked her yet? and if you have, have you fucked her like really good? a great way to be the go to guy for sex is to excel at it. invite her to parties, to hang, to drink, etc. essentially become convenient to bang. convenience + excelling at sex should keep her around for a good while. how good does this other guy have it with her?
/r/seduction10/01/11 05:46 AM
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when we were saying goodbye, she gave me this look that seemed to mean, "So are you going to ask for my number or what?" so I kind of half-heartedly did. hahahaha was it in your tone/body language? experiment with asking for phone numbers this way when you actually ARE interested. Multiple locations: The way I think about this is, the way we subjectively experience time has as lot do with the number of meaningful experiences, not the number of minutes elapsed. An hour spent at each of three loca…
/r/seduction10/01/11 05:43 AM
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im not so good at the relationship management phases, but what ive heard around here is that the best way to keep fuckbuddy status is to keep your frequency of seeing each other DOWN. and of course as always keep gamin other girls.
/r/seduction10/01/11 05:33 AM
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i do, but i dont sit there pounding drinks to loosen up. i generally enjoy drinking and dancing. other drugs and physical activities as well. sarging hard? know your limits and drink well under them. by the end of the night a buzz will have crept up on you that you weren't expecting. i've had bad nights where i pounded brew as hard as i could and would up sitting on curbs texting myself not to do it again. live and learn/
/r/seduction10/01/11 05:30 AM
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you got stuck in a time hiccup and the only way out is winning over a woman's heart? sounds more like sci-fi one-itis to me.
/r/seduction10/01/11 05:28 AM
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the HB8.5's proximity is off the wall while my back is to her. I can feel her ass all up on me and she doesn't mind. I ignore her while something tells me that it's coming... wait for it WAIT FOR IT I notice the HB8.5 alone and I ask where her friend is. She laughs more and says she lost her wallet and was crying outside. Poor girl. I SHOULD HAVE FUCKING #-CLOSED THIS GORGEOUS GIRL, IOI'S OUT THE ASS. Honestly, I was intimidated, if i had a fucking nickel man. so sad to see this shit happen. if …
/r/seduction10/01/11 05:24 AM
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if you do it right, wont they want to stick around?
/r/seduction10/01/11 05:10 AM
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well thanks for the respectful and well thought out reply. rebuttals and agreements follow: The two chief motivating memes in pickup are 1) that it's a numbers game, and you just need to be really sociable and 2) that the material works on all women and will improve your results across the board. Together, these two ideas create a kind of religious synergy, because if you approach a girl and your results don't work, you just say it's the numbers game at work. If you get lucky and a girl responds…
/r/seduction10/01/11 02:44 AM
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yea well, hindsight is 20/20
/r/seduction10/01/11 01:57 AM
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downvotes! seddit really is shitting out, isnt it
/r/seduction09/01/11 09:35 AM
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Perhaps you could learn from me? dear lord in heaven man, i've asked you to give us something. i've asked for you to give advice instead of hating on all that goes on around here. you know what, i believe you. i believe that youre in a great relationship with a wonderful girl who would never cheat on you. and youve never mentioned it, but i bet she's hot too. how the fuck are we going to learn anything with comments like this: Being yourself only works I you are a successful human being, not if …
/r/seduction08/01/11 10:27 PM
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ive told this guy to leave a few times. he's sticking around, sadly
/r/seduction08/01/11 10:18 PM
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well it may not be a legal right, but i wouldn't blame a guy for kicking another dude's ass if the other dude had his lips and/or dick where they shouldn't have been. but he should probably dump the girl too/
/r/seduction08/01/11 10:05 PM
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Is it morally wrong for me to be stepping in on this guys women. well since you ASKED for it. i think its fine to "practice" on a girl, but only in the generation of attraction. in theory, touching a girl isn't cheating, but kissing her is. it is "technically" wrong to step on another guy's woman. but is she happy? if she is happy, and he is happy, and you're intentionally goading her out of a decent relationship, that's sort of dickish. but i'd be willing to bet that since she is willing to kis…
/r/seduction08/01/11 10:02 PM
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but isn't it trolling when you make a short, useless comment that broadly criticizes a whole post and subreddit without really explaining why, all while attempting to offend the OP, for the sole purpose of incitement? where's the value in your post?
/r/seduction08/01/11 08:10 PM
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:( i don't have a real wing either. the kids that come out with me the most often are one who is all logick-y and tries to talk to girls about serious shit, and another who left all his tact and subtlety in the womb. I often ditch them when i need to. getting laid or trying to get laid is almost always a valid excuse for disappearing. in fact, it may be the only valid excuse.
/r/seduction08/01/11 08:03 PM
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and it always will until you do it a bunch. you're not really gonna get a much easier situation than a girl who starts kino and #closes you.
/r/seduction08/01/11 07:59 PM
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aw i liked yours, you were so damn happy. i read it soon after it was posted, i didn't see too many of the haters in there.
/r/seduction08/01/11 07:58 PM
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"She just has to walk up to me and say hello." and then your clothes both fall of and your instant erection is magically inside of her already?
/r/seduction08/01/11 07:55 PM
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so youre basically a dickhead troll? These comments from girls and guys make people look so fucking douchey and corny. LOL
/r/seduction08/01/11 07:53 PM
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action is the great motivator
/r/seduction08/01/11 07:47 PM
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i've done this kind of shit so many times it hurts. even before i found pickup, i was able to read signs of attraction - i just was less sure about them, and they made me way more nervous than excited. did you feel like, paralyzed? i know it all too well. still get it sometimes in fact. it doesn't really go away ever, you sort of have to let it wash over you and become excitement instead of nervousness. zen/inner game shit, i guess.
/r/seduction08/01/11 07:43 PM
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take away the verbal parts and this is pretty much exactly how i dance with girls. shit works. apply this to dance game, all ye who enter here. well done.
/r/seduction08/01/11 07:38 PM
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well be careful because while all of this stuff works for decently attractive girls, a girl who is not so used to male attention may take them as signs of interest. emoticons, opening up to her, could possibly be taken the wrong way. no kino is a good thing, and don't be rude/dickish/obvious about it but try to shy away if she initiates any with you. now I understand exactly how women feel about dating white knighting nervous betaboy chumps. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland and I sh…
/r/seduction08/01/11 07:34 PM
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you're inexperienced and were unable to capitalize on a good opportunity. solution: gain more experience
/r/seduction08/01/11 07:30 PM
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hhahah good job. i dont know if you could call that a number close though D: why the hell did you make the friend take it? im imagining this look of slight shock on the girl's face, like "why didnt FLPUA take it, he's the one i wanted to give it to."
/r/seduction08/01/11 07:29 PM
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I thought /r/seduction was more receptive about this stuff, honestly. yea considering it's stuff from the seduction community. The downvotes make me think that most of the people here are just chatboxes - all talk, no action. it's actually from "lurk-haters," who are neither talk nor action. many of them don't believe pickup works, yet when threads like this come around, do believe it works and needs to be wielded "morally." wackness either way. She knows she can rely on me and I know she's not …
/r/seduction08/01/11 07:23 PM
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I disqualify, and use it as an inside joke for the rest of the night. "oh so you're a violent one huh, well i don't think i can hang out with you anymore." this is another one that usually makes them turn around and qualify "oh noo im nice im sorry" blah blah blah. also, if it's something physical like your situation i'll give her a little push or somethin back as i say it. i don't think i'd do like intjpua and probe for kinks by hitting her back, but i feel like you can't just sit there and tak…
/r/seduction08/01/11 07:16 PM
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well, thats just like, your opinion, man
/r/seduction08/01/11 08:21 AM
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well tbh i couldnt think of anything quickly enough to actually use it IRL. i sat here for a few seconds and nothing popped up. my default for situations like this when my verbal game fails me is to just make a face like "pshh yea whatever" and slowly look away. there is something about this look that makes women want to qualify to you. make sure it is subtle though, and not very exaggerated. you want it to be aloof alpha, not clowny YEA RIGHT GIRLFRIEEEEND
/r/seduction08/01/11 07:55 AM
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is it bad that i read this headline on the front page and immediately knew it was some silly attempt to make fun of the acronyms? if you dont like the acronyms, lurk moar, you will learn them soon enough. complaining about the abbreviations is like wearing a giant "im a seddit noob" hat, while staring at one girl all night imagining what it would be like to marry and have children with her. all in good fun i see, and funny to boot. but you do realize youre gonna draw out those assholes who are l…
/r/seduction08/01/11 07:50 AM
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in my freshman year of college, a girl was yoinked from beneath my nose. i had gotten too needy and another had gotten just not needy enough. he proceeded to date and bang her furiously for a year or two. fast forward 3 years later, and somehow i find myself in contact with this gentleman again through mutual friends. he and said girl have since broken up due to time abroad, and i eventually find myself actually enjoying his company. to this day, this guy is one of my best college friends, and t…
/r/seduction08/01/11 07:44 AM
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nothing really, but im nowhere near creating such a comprehensive guide for my city. i'd need to go to at least 30 more different bars, and analyze the hell out of them
/r/seduction08/01/11 07:39 AM
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it also depends how he's flirting, and whether he's doing it teasingly (which is nothing to be upset about in the first place) or if he's acting serious about it. agreed, i think it needs to be done not seriously. but just like cubs play fighting, even though its not "for real" you can still tell who comes out the winner - when you flirt with other girls playfully you dont # close them, but you demonstrate that you easily could, if you wanted to.
/r/seduction08/01/11 07:37 AM
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I'm new to this subreddit but it seems like you all follow manuals, i mean self-help books, to get ahead in life. thats exactly what we do. if you disagree, well, you can stick around and tell us all about how we shouldn't do that, but nobody's going to listen. also, im 23 and im doin alright.
/r/seduction08/01/11 07:22 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G43Grbgupds also this "women who were ovulating were more flirtatious. women who were ovulating and had a steady partner were the most flirtatious of all." when we talk about women like they are animals, it's because they are. so are men. let's not make pretty lies about love because they make us feel better.
/r/seduction07/01/11 10:15 PM
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proper authentic confidence is somewhere in the middle. that said, "You don’t have to be an asshole, but if you have no choice, being an inconsiderate asshole beats being a polite beta, every time." -Roissy
/r/seduction07/01/11 10:05 PM
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My girlfriend I get laid way more often than the PUAs here
/r/seduction07/01/11 09:56 PM
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That being said, I'm addicted to seddit lol. I don't know why man, but I'll compulsively write long, detailed posts over little questions. Gotta quit that shit. i feel that. with that in mind ill keep it short. yes, down to your side. holding it in front of you is defensive body language. think of how it would look without the drink in your hand.
/r/seduction07/01/11 09:34 PM
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i was ruminating on this the other day in my "journal" or whatever the fuck you want to call it. "there is something to be said for seddit. not so much reading it but posting there, acting the part, and having some motivation to write something when you come home, and have others read it. this is perhaps why seduction COMMUNITIES work so well and the books and videos can fall flat on their own." but even reading it can help too, there is something to be said for hearing shit over and over until …
/r/seduction07/01/11 08:15 PM
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baby don't huuurt me
/r/seduction07/01/11 08:11 PM
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youre getting many downvotes in this thread. saddens me truly. you can do all of this stuff without being an asshole. (you can also do it being a COMPLETE asshole.) both will work. saying a woman is disposable means that she can dump you, or you can dump her, and your life will continue just fine. it does not liken her to a cum rag, it means that she is a part of your life that is fun and perhaps even meaningful, but not necessary. if you have a girl who is NOT disposable, think of the havoc it …
/r/seduction07/01/11 08:11 PM
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look up preselection/jealousy etc. women are very much wired to compete with other women for a man. attraction will most likely increase if you flirt with other women. a girl with no self-esteem will leave you if you do this. because she will feel like she cannot compete and rather than risk her ego by staying with you she will protect it and seek a lower value male.
/r/seduction07/01/11 08:09 PM
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or example 'keep gaming other girls' in front of her. perhaps don't game them, but you can show that you still got the skeelz in subtle ways.
/r/seduction07/01/11 08:03 PM
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dear lord i wish someone would do one of these for philly.
/r/seduction07/01/11 08:00 PM
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LIKE A BOSS
/r/seduction07/01/11 07:55 PM
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I'm new to this subreddit LURK MOAR
/r/seduction07/01/11 07:48 PM
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race matters just as much as looks matter. it is a category of your looks, basically.
/r/seduction07/01/11 01:42 PM
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I wrote 'kino' on my thumb to remind me to work on that shit. LOL ...actually not a terrible idea overall, not a bad job. keep it up, plenty plenty plenty of girls in NYC
/r/seduction07/01/11 01:27 PM
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well it's one of the things we're about. you follow what you see in sidebar/any pickup book and get a lay first. you don't ask someone to be a FWB. eve after you get the lay you dont ask to be fwb either. you just call her up to bang. you don't go on really date-y dates, you try and do booty calls when you can etc. she may eventually ask "what we are." i'm not exactly sure how you respond but i've heard that question answered before - the answer is floating around somewhere.
/r/seduction07/01/11 01:25 PM
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oof i needed this one, thanks
/r/seduction07/01/11 01:22 PM
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i know right? like, he was a mormon and then he quit and had sex with girls. unheard of
/r/seduction07/01/11 01:22 PM
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be careful bro http://roissy.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/great-scenes-of-game-in-the-movies-6/
/r/seduction07/01/11 08:20 AM
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you can make a subreddit private? well fuck, now when we need a seddit premium it will be quite easy to pull off.
/r/seduction07/01/11 07:03 AM
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i believe this method of LMR busting is somewhere in 'bang.' it doesn't really have a name but i call it acknowledge and escalate. the great thing about it is that you can use it and still fall back on the freezeout if you have to. (that is, if you're not in a time sensitive situation as you mentioned). glad to see it worked, i dont think ive seen an FR successfully utilize this move.
/r/seduction07/01/11 12:54 AM
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This is the mind set i hate that PU tends to churn out by the masses. gents if you could kindly read past yokhai's first sentence his advice is actually very, very good.
/r/seduction06/01/11 11:41 PM
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she's a nerd at heart! she's a stripper in the brain! strippers are notoriously hard to pin down. even the masters have trouble with them, and whole books and routines dedicated to "hired guns" aka hot girls who are at work getting paid to be hot. go work on your game in general, if you are LUCKY something will come around with this girl.
/r/seduction06/01/11 10:50 PM
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click on users and in the upper right hand corner is a +friend button. if you hit that their name comes up red in all threads, makes them easier to spot
/r/seduction06/01/11 09:36 PM
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interesting. Go Make an Emotional Connection With A Few Other Women? GMaECWAFOW? I agree though, never thought about it that way.
/r/seduction06/01/11 09:33 PM
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yea. i can't say i disagree fully, that is definitely what everybody wants. but there is a lot in between, that is earning that kind of love. this is old stuff that all animals do. "true love" is a human thing, but you gotta do the animal dance first to get to it. at least thats the way i see it. and pickup is a little "animal dance" how-to guide.
/r/seduction06/01/11 09:29 PM
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Have you ever approached a girl? i've never even SEEN one! tell me, are they as soft and pretty as everybody says?
/r/seduction06/01/11 09:12 PM
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someone to unconditionally love and adore them i'll go unconditionally love the next girl i meet and report back.
/r/seduction06/01/11 09:12 PM
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lol askseddit has more mods than subscribers. should be more lurkers of the 14k over there. i say we go with #2, but don't really "market" it at all. PM people. i think if you've followed throwaraptor's advice you've been friending people around here, so you recognize some names and good contributors. if we all bring some friends with us there should be enough of us to make it a decent sub. whatever you do, don't go shouting it from the mountaintops. the last thing i want is for fidesratioque or…
/r/seduction06/01/11 08:25 PM
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I like women. I like putting my dick in the sticky icky. lol me too bro
/r/seduction06/01/11 08:11 PM
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exactly what do you mean by that
/r/seduction06/01/11 07:43 PM
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The truth is that you’re feelings for this person is the exact definition of common. ahahahahh yessss. What causes us such great suffering is not love… but the idea of love. wisdom this is why GFTOW is often used as one-itis advice. it's not to be crude, it's to put your one-itis in perspective, so that you realize she is special, but special just like everyone else.
/r/seduction06/01/11 07:38 PM
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lol i go to ocean city, MD in the summer... when we go to get gas and we see all the beer it's like OH YEA our state is so backwards with that shit!
/r/seduction06/01/11 07:31 PM
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how long have you been married? I think the whole predator/prey thing is douchebaggy it's not really a necessary component of pickup. just a facade of "what up dude?" with their hat on sideways, decorative facial hair and too many fashion accessories. well that's because to be a "guru" your style of woman is often really really hot, and you need to pick up a lot of them. that's the style you need to go with. pickup as most people know it was essentially born in Los Angeles. but in the front of e…
/r/seduction06/01/11 07:28 PM
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text as little as possible. your interest in a text should be in the form of "let's meet [here] at [this time]," essentially saying "i'm interested in you but not enough to toss you little morsels of digital attention. come see me in person so i can figure out whether i'm interested in continuing or not"
/r/seduction06/01/11 07:16 PM
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i popped out my ebook of the game, gunwitch is mentioned twice. seems like niel has only ever been "associated" with him over the internet, if at all. he mentions him in the beginning when he sees him contributing on the forums, and again when he goes through the laundry list of "methods" and books that started popping up.
/r/seduction06/01/11 06:25 PM
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then what's your strategy? "normal guy" "yourself?" nondescript/safe/average is how that's usually perceived. also unattractive. but if you've got some pointers and what you do works let us know, we'll be here. but if youre just here to say things like "PUA doesn't really work" and have whole posts that simply read "false dichotomy" you may want to reconsider hanging around here.
/r/seduction06/01/11 06:19 PM
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the texts were mutual. she would initiate or i would. doesn't matter, don't overtext
/r/seduction06/01/11 05:52 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/wGyZK.jpg
/r/seduction06/01/11 05:48 PM
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no wonder gym game was such a mystery. it requires a lot of patience and pregame/social proof. absolutely excellent writeup, UPVOTES ALL AROUND
/r/seduction06/01/11 05:46 PM
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well then just what kind of guy are you exactly. why don't you stop sitting over there all smug and give some useful pointers
/r/seduction06/01/11 05:42 PM
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implying character can be ascertained by looks
/r/seduction06/01/11 05:41 PM
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actually it's discouraged to act like you're rich and throw money around. it's also discouraged to hit on idiot women... if you don't like idiots, anyway. if you do like idiots then you would be encouraged to hit on them. but oh shit youre right PUA is douchey PRASE THE LAWD ive seen the light, time to go back to treating girls supernice and waiting for 3 years of being friends before i try to hold their hands
/r/seduction06/01/11 05:40 PM
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u been at the top of the page since last night u still mad bro? 125 points the "community" has its eyes open maaaaan way to bring the truth and the light hard to the people bro.
/r/seduction06/01/11 05:37 PM
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Fucking assholes, how do they work?
/r/seduction06/01/11 05:35 PM
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regardless of troll, an interesting tale.
/r/seduction06/01/11 05:33 PM
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so bad, yet so good
/r/seduction06/01/11 05:31 PM
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so when, 15k?
/r/seduction06/01/11 05:27 PM
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yes, it is.
/r/seduction06/01/11 09:56 AM
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yea but he's teaching you his way of thinking about WOMEN. so if instead, he had shot a WOMAN in the face... oh wait. gunwitch's method was really aggressive and really sexual, what I can remember of it. "make the ho say no" or something like that. still, a lot of it is relevant. you can think the way he's laid out his seduction plan and not become psychotic and shoot-y. also gunwitch method was written quite some time ago I believe, plenty of time for him to sit around and go nuts while his wri…
/r/seduction06/01/11 08:48 AM
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time to make a galt's gulch for seddit
/r/seduction06/01/11 08:39 AM
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i was implying that you should follow your own advice and consider your audience around here. you know very well who they are, and take steps to deliberately incite them. your remarks are not too on-topic, they are the very definition of trolling. but i guess your subreddit's not a real subreddit till you have a few resident trolls trolling about.
/r/seduction06/01/11 08:32 AM
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upvote for bill nye-ing the shit out of it also pa represent. im on the other side though D:
/r/seduction06/01/11 08:00 AM
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i think hes implying that 3 downvotes isn't a lot, in the grand scheme of things.
/r/seduction06/01/11 07:56 AM
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"What none of the news outlets are reporting is that this guy is Gunwitch, a Pick up artist in the game community made famous by "The Game" by Neil Strauss. He has a book called "The Gunwitch Method" he is quite notorious. you should report that he is linked to neil strauss and Mystery who had a MTV tv series" hahahhah. when the man says it was a drug deal gone bad. "when the news finds out what he used to write he won't be an alcoholic, he'll be a pickup artist."
/r/seduction06/01/11 07:55 AM
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