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NICE FOR WHAT?deathbecomesme123456/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/07/20 02:57 AM
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Question For Mendeathbecomesme123456/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 02:18 AM
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MALE DEPRAVITYdeathbecomesme123456/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/02/20 02:58 AM
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DISCUSSIONdeathbecomesme123456/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/03/20 08:37 PM
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PICKMEISHA HALL OF SHAMEdeathbecomesme123456/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/07/20 10:56 AM
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LVM LOGICdeathbecomesme123456/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/09/20 12:20 AM
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CULTURAL MISOGYNYdeathbecomesme123456/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/08/20 07:01 PM
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Inner Game deathbecomesme123456/r/seduction03/11/20 11:04 AM
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Discussiondeathbecomesme123456/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 11:13 PM
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Question For Mendeathbecomesme123456/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 10:13 AM
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Discussiondeathbecomesme123456/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:23 AM
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Discussiondeathbecomesme123456/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 10:05 AM
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Perhaps that emotional orientation sheds light on why you can very easily date. You don’t have standards for initiating dating contact beyond “am sexually attracted to her.” Most women and many men need a romantic attraction beyond the sexual one to even see someone as a relationship prospect. If I could hazard a guess, those with your approach are the ones who find dating easy and suggest simple solutions without realizing that it doesn’t work that way for everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:47 AM
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So you don’t think about a woman or get butterflies or long for her in the early stages of dating, before you’ve had sex? These are all feelings that comprise a “crush,” which is distinct from just finding a person sexually attractive. If you don’t feel that it’s fine, but it’s not a universally male thing, as I’ve heard many men recall daydreaming about a woman they feel romantically towards, long before the relationship is consummated. Therefore, romantic (not sexual) feelings can precede sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 01:27 AM
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That’s not responsive to my comment. Is there anything that distinguishes the way you feel for a woman you pursue as a romantic partner (before sex happens) and any other women you like/find attractive? If so, then there’s another quality beyond “having had sex” that sets apart women you feel romantically towards from other women you find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 12:12 AM
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How is there no relationship without sex? Surely you feel differently about a female friend vs. a female partner? Even children can distinguish between a friend and a special friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 11:01 AM
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Yeah, unfortunately that story is all too common, whether in those types of marriages or traditional prostitution. It just destroys your sense of self and any concept that a relationship is one you enter out of love.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:37 AM
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Yeah it just doesn’t even factor for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:43 AM
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Shes 1 person! I never said ALL women aren’t attracted to the men they’re in relationships with. I’m saying that the OP’s examples are based in reality though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 11:50 PM
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Unattractive to them. If you spent any time around women, especially older ones, you’d know how much they were pressured to secure the “nice, dependable, secure” guy or the “guy you’ve already been with since high school,” regardless of whether she was attracted to him. Having sex with someone you don’t like feels like a chore or even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 10:59 PM
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The problem is it’s true: many women who are alienated from their sexuality do view sex as something men do to women and women give to men. This is often reinforced through previous sexual trauma, social pressure to choose unattractive mates, and a poor example of male-female relationships starting in their childhood home.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 10:22 PM
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Many women (usually after multiple bad experiences) are just resigned to the fact that sex isn’t about their pleasure. If they experience any, that’s a side effect, so they lie to themselves that it’s fun anyway minus an orgasm. These same women then run to their friends and complain about those men who don’t get them off. Also, women from a very young age are brainwashed to be appearance-conscious all the time. That means a woman might decline a man going down on her for fear of what she’ll loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:53 PM
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when an insane man sees a mid woman walking across the street I don’t think you know what catcalling is. These guys are “normal,” just emboldened by the anonymity of the situation to say creepy shit to you. I don’t consider the cracked out homeless person yelling at me to be catcalling. The frat/gym/finance/construction bros in a group leering, whistling, and yelling obscenities are the typical cat callers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:14 PM
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You can meander around the point, but there are very few women who wouldn’t feel debased, disrespected, and unloved if their boyfriend cheated on them with five hookers. Despite your justifications in some esoteric “male nature,” it will always be perceived as such. And it’s unconvincing that men have the exact same opinion of their female partners before and after cheating. If you’re arguing they do, then men are bigger sociopaths than I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 07:59 AM
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I understand that you think you feel a certain way. What you can’t do is argue that cheating does not signal debasement, disrespect, and complete lack of love to one’s partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 06:59 AM
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You may think you can, but those are post-hoc rationalizations, cognitive dissonance, delusions, whichever term you prefer. If cheating doesn’t signal lack of respect and love for your partner, I cannot think of something that would.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 09:38 PM
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Because a woman (generally speaking) cannot cheat on her man and still love him, respect him As if men can? If you sleep with another woman you’re telling your partner that she’s worthless, that she meant so little to you that you could swap her out for some random woman. Idk why men think cheating is not the ultimate debasement of their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 08:33 AM
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Who is forcing you to act feminine? You’re allowed to wear gender neutral clothes or even male clothes and few people care especially nowadays. What kind of bullying are you referring to because I’m not a 10/10, I don’t dress feminine and I’ve never experienced anything like that. Maybe it’s where you live? I’m in the Northeast US which is relatively tolerant of GNC women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:36 AM
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I replied to the OP with this but I’ll copy it here for you too: You don’t have to perform femininity! I never wear makeup, I rarely do my hair, I rarely wear a dress, but I’m still a woman. Don’t get sucked into the new idea that you’re not a woman unless you look like a Kardashian and feel great while doing it. Feminists of yesteryear emphasized just how much there’s no right way to be a woman, and that you can look anyway, act anyway, and be anyway you want while still being a woman. Most wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:55 AM
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You don’t have to perform femininity! I never wear makeup, I rarely do my hair, I rarely wear a dress, but I’m still a woman. Don’t get sucked into the new idea that you’re not a woman unless you look like a Kardashian and feel great while doing it. Feminists of yesteryear emphasized just how much there’s no right way to be a woman, and that you can look anyway, act anyway, and be anyway you want while still being a woman. Most women don’t “feel” like women, they just accept they are. If your is…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:54 AM
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Women putting off dating due to trauma is more common now though. Historically, women would just accept sexual assault as a fact of life, but wouldn’t eschew relationships because of it. Now, more women feel freer to remove themselves from relationships when they’re traumatized, rather than bowing to social pressure to constantly look for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 07:21 PM
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My dad had my brother and me in his 50s and were both on the spectrum. My cousin was born to his 40+ parents and is nonverbal autistic, just for some anecdotes that run counter to yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 10:19 PM
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Men who are bad at sex are mostly in the category of “don’t care,” not “can’t.” More experience won’t help them one bit if they’re not interested in pleasing their partner in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 01:45 AM
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Will Smith was laughing Someone pointed out that could be because actors are literally trained to be easygoing when they’re being roasted so he defaulted to that and then the joke actually hit him and he got mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 03:28 PM
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Like I mean they were following the crowd, reacting to an assault, trying to find a man who could satisfy her, or really anything other than simply “quenching her ravenous appetite for novel men.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 02:21 AM
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No loss to either woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 05:09 PM
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What if a woman had protected sex with all of those men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 02:30 PM
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So then isn’t the personality of a promiscuous woman more predictive than the n-count? A woman who had many prior partners because of thrill seeking is different than a woman who had them due to trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 02:25 PM
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I didn’t read the sources except for the excerpts but did any study account for potential confounding variables like reasons for promiscuity?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 02:23 PM
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I like skinny guys, provided you don’t have a gut/spare tire like in the skinny-fat look.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 06:23 AM
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It's not just about starting conflict, it's about doing things that may lead to conflict. A partner who never remembers to clean up after themselves, for example, is likely to start a conflict with their partner who wishes for the house to remain clean and tidy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 09:54 PM
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It depends what you’re saying and doing, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 03:01 AM
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4 years and counting
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 08:50 AM
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These events occurred in D.C.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 10:26 AM
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Yeah so what’s wrong with that? I don’t think anyone wants to be in a relationship with an incompatible person right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 05:41 AM
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Yeah and what do you think the problem is?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 02:17 AM
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Men who are mostly disinterested in you as people and are bad in bed. I dated a guy on and off for a year(!) who wasn’t just in it for sex before you say he’s a Chad or something, and he didn’t even remember my last name. Would take work and other personal calls for a long time in my presence, never introduced me to his friends, etc. I’ve gone on dates with so many guys who flagrantly violated my no’s, took me on extremely low effort dates, and were lazy in bed. Obviously nOt AlL mEn, but with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 02:17 AM
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You really just said personality and goals don’t matter for a LTR in your 20s? What kind of relationship is it if your personalities don’t mesh??
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:33 PM
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Maybe the thing that’s minor to you is very major to her. And that proves her point that you’re incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:08 PM
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Dating itself isn’t even that fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:04 PM
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But very few of those qualities have anything to do with how he will be in a relationship. I mean great he sounds accomplished but how does that relate to how he treats the woman he’s with?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 09:13 PM
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Put in your parameters and see what average women look like https://app.mybodygallery.com/#/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 07:36 PM
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Just because someone is a professional athlete or musician doesn’t mean they’re physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 07:35 PM
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false accusations are different than unproven accusations. idk why y’all always conflate the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:15 AM
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That map does not tell you the full story. At varying times there have been nominal restrictions that apply to business but they’ve been mostly abandoned in most places, poorly enforced when they did exist, and never applied to say, house parties or private hanging out. If you’re a 20something in the US and you want to go to a bar or club right now and for the last year, you could in almost the entire US. The only young people having trouble socializing right now are the ones who got most of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 05:19 PM
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Yeah I’m in the US, and there are no such rules here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 03:07 PM
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I don’t need statistical information if I’m only trying to make the point that you can’t eliminate risk of abuse/murder from simply avoiding criminal type men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 02:08 AM
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But the majority of men are not glaring criminals, so stop shifting the blame onto women. If you ever watch dateline or 20/20, you would know that the vast majority of men who murder their wives are normal to high achieving: middle managers, dentists, accountants, office clerks, restaurant owners, etc. Some men have scary traits but others just snap years in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 01:07 AM
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I go for the most stereotypical upper middle class academic types that you guys would call betas and might even suspect are gay. I have been molested by one and raped by another. No tattoos, no drug use, no criminal behavior, none of what you’re talking about. Please tell me how I could’ve predicted that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 12:33 AM
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How can you know a man is going to beat you to death in the first few dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 10:01 PM
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Every night I see on the news and on social media tons of young people out and about. I also see people on Reddit talking about going to restaurants, dates, and more all during covid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 09:56 PM
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Eh not really. Most young people never stopped socializing during this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 08:31 PM
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There are radfems who would easily agree with providing better mental health care infrastructure but would bristle at the notion that the family courts are unfair. I tend to agree with that position.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 08:26 AM
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In many cultures, it’s perfectly normal for adult men to live with their parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:44 AM
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Go to a specialist. They usually give more specific suggestions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 06:03 AM
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lonely women are supported by society Like in what world? If I weren’t living with my family rn, I’d be lonely and touch starved for the past 2 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:32 AM
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they’re attractive but not handsome at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 10:33 PM
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healthy masculinity Yellowstone Most of the male characters are murderers lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:28 AM
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i don’t think you understand the way trauma manifests. My great aunt went through Auschwitz and another camp in Germany and she was very traumatized. She didn’t speak about it for decades. You point to “crybabies” on the Internet, many of whom are 1. lying for attention and don’t have real trauma or 2. talk about their trauma online but are still living normal productive lives. You literally do not know whether someone’s online persona aligns with how they’re living their lives. Also, there’s an…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 10:30 PM
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God I could’ve written this—especially the forced anal part. Sorry you’ve been through all this :(
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 10:23 PM
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In what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 07:46 PM
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Funny, for me it’s been the exact opposite. I always wondered how men can consider each other friends without knowing virtually anything personal about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 07:30 PM
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Women don’t even emotionally support other women Source needed. From time immemorial, women have taken care of their friends’ and family members’ babies, banded together when the men were away, got resources for their friends in abusive relationships, directed their friends to therapy in modern times, etc. The list is so long of big and small acts of support. Isn’t it always men who whine about how they have no support system while women do?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 06:25 PM
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Lol what? Women cry when feeling stressed, overwhelmed, sad, etc. Mostly we cry alone so idk who we’re emotionally extorting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 06:23 PM
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Uh so what am I pushing with this agenda?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:10 AM
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Same thing happened to me. No one in society cares about rape victims—male or female.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:58 AM
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What does he look like though? His face, I mean
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:32 AM
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I responded to the ones that were shocking, incomplete, or that I disagreed with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:21 AM
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I can’t respond to everything, but some answers are ones I just agreed with or found really directly answered my question so it didn’t seem necessary to respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:13 PM
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People have been surprisingly honest in this thread. I do believe their answers
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:07 PM
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Yeah it is, but it’s also sometimes good to hear specifics. Why do you like going to the bathroom? Because it’s relieving and I don’t want to damage my kidneys. Given the answers I’ve seen from some people in this sub, I just wanted to see if there were other answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 09:24 PM
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Convos about the world with loved ones are definitely fulfilling. Good for you for finding your person
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 09:14 PM
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When do you feel you’d be ready for children?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 09:13 PM
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This is sweet and I hope you find that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 09:11 PM
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I didn’t feel the need to reply to most of the reasonable answers because they were complete and I generally agreed with them but I did upvote them. There were a few I replied to because I thought they were sweet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 08:59 PM
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Yes to the first question, slightly yes to the second question. Pre-covid we used to have a bunch of guys in our friend group but we would mostly hang out girls only.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 08:57 PM
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If they’re going to lose interest, why should any woman be in a relationship with a man? Assuming she doesn’t want to be used for sex and cleaning, what’s left if he’s lost interest in everything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 08:53 PM
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I’m on mobile, I don’t even know where you’re referring.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 08:50 PM
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We understand, we (majority) don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 08:49 PM
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Dude. All I asked you why you would get into one without giving sexual or labor related reasons. I didn’t ask what can men or women do to make themselves more attractive to each other, how women can be feminine, how to be better in a relationship, etc. As for the men bringing women to orgasm point, many women have had the experience of a man saying something like “I don’t go down on women,” or just giving a perfunctory quick lick that no reasonable person could expect to yield ab orgasm. That is…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 08:47 PM
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Yeah like misleading to have sex isn’t rape but it turns into what I would call unwanted sex. That can be very hurtful.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 08:37 PM
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These are men you guys would call good/nice guys. I’ve only ever been with one “asshole.” They all acted the same though. Only this one guy who I used to be friends with (who you would probably call a simp) listened to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:40 AM
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The furniture point is sweet
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:38 AM
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At least he views her to be below his level. That I can agree with
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:37 AM
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Maybe this is age dependent. My friends even in relationships still come to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:36 AM
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Maybe something is getting lost in translation here. What do you consider being used as a soundingboard?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:35 AM
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My non-sexual and non-labor reasons are mutual conversational and activity enjoyment (which would cover most of my waking hours).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 07:26 AM
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I didn’t shame you for it, I just asked for other reasons and I guess you don’t have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 07:25 AM
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Maybe those qualities can be substituted by a close male friend. But that doesn’t change whether you also want them in your girlfriend. My female friends make me laugh, but I would also want a boyfriend to make me laugh. My female friends tell good stories, but I would also want a boyfriend to, etc. Some qualities I would say can’t be substituted by the average male friend are caring, concern, and consideration. Women usually are more likely to have those personality traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 07:23 AM
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I don’t need it to be explained; I wanted to hear these men give me their reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 07:16 AM
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I know tons of women like this though For an alternative perspective, my friends and I have had the most emotionally intense moments and conversations of anyone. I’m sure I know them better than any of their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 07:13 AM
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Either they’re with the wrong woman, or they’re too apathetic then. If you perceive your partner as bitching at you/nagging all the time, then that person isn’t for you and you should leave. If you constantly feel like all your partners are bringing up things you don’t care about, then either you should question why you never care about anything your partner cares about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 07:08 AM
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I absolutely believe all these people’s answers. The ones I responded to were unclear to me or genuinely surprising. I never said I liked the answers. Do only non bitter people like every answer to their questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 07:06 AM
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I don’t know how many men are short, as that’s a relative term. I also don’t know how many men are bald or balding, but I would assume it’s most, so that’s kind of a relative term too. So it probably depends on how each individual woman quantifies/qualifies those two attributes to determine whether they’re dealbreakers. If you take a common definition of baldness to be significantly thinning hair or less, combined with a common definition of shortness as under 5’7”, then that man will probably b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 07:04 AM
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No, what you said ironically only applied to the last statement of your comment. You attributed bitterness to me out of thin air.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:59 AM
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Isn’t that sex and labor combined? You need to have sex to have the kids, then once they’re here she’ll be doing most of the labor in caring for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:57 AM
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It actually was a good enough answer until it was ruined by your bitterness and resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:56 AM
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Cool, so we can both agree that a man wanting sex from a woman isn’t necessarily bad I actually didn’t say that. You posed a hypothetical of a man who wants to “be around his girlfriend because he’s sexually attracted to her,” not a man who wants to be around his girlfriend so he can have sex with her. Wanting someone just for sexual gratification is the problem because of all of the potential ills (physical and psychological) visited upon women from unwanted sex. What is the issue here? There’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:54 AM
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Wanting to be with someone for the sole reason of having them perform tasks for you is selfish. It’s akin to hiring some kind of service worker. It’s not selfish because I’m assuming he’s enjoying my company too. If I basically said “entertain me,” and he was getting nothing out of it, it would be selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:11 AM
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In any good relationship—whether romantic or platonic—people will feel positive feelings around the other person. They like to be around that person for the positive feelings. If you want to call that selfish, then every relationship in human history is selfish. A broader, more common definition of selfishness is demonstrated by only wanting another person to serve you. At that point, you could hire someone to perform those tasks. If men just wanted to be around women they’re sexually attracted …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:08 AM
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It sounds like you have no evidence. Okay then.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:53 AM
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You can’t have a feeling about what most women do. Either they do it or don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:46 AM
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If you consider wanting to be around someone because they make you happy as selfish, then any relationship is selfish. But that’s a base level of selfishness that doesn’t take from the other person. If I want to be around someone because he is funny and smart and a good conversationalist, that doesn’t sound selfish to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:45 AM
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We’re definitely two different people, that much is true. But you made a claim about “most women” so you’re going to need to back it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:38 AM
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Wanting something from anyone as your primary reason for being around them is just selfish. If I wanted a man only for what he could do for me (money, job opportunities, housing, cleaning, etc.) it’s bad too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:36 AM
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So a relationship with you is just her doing things for you? You don’t enjoy talking with her, doing things together, etc.?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:34 AM
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I’ve sat on many a summer’s day and people watched and never seen anything of the sort. Maybe the common denominator is you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:32 AM
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Not the typical angry frenemy most women seem to want to be in relationships Was it necessary to put women down like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:28 AM
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I do what I like with the person I love Okay but that is literally an answer. Wanting to do something with the person you love is imo the primary reason to be in/want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:51 AM
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You’re proving my point. Women would be unlikely to go to their male partners instead of their female friends for emotional support.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:23 AM
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non-sexual intimacy Can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:10 AM
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Uh…isn’t the common trope that men are emotional robots? Why would any woman go to men for her problems? That’s what female friends are for. Every time I’ve even attempted to tell a man a real problem I get a head nod or a “sorry that happened to you.”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:07 AM
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If men were so fixated on bringing a woman to orgasm, they would actually try to do it. When have I said that it’s a negative that men like to make women orgasm? Right here, I just said it’s untrue lol. Loving women isn’t trying to have as much sex with them as possible. Loving women is loving things about women and wanting to be around them for their intrinsic qualities. TRP telling you how to make yourself attractive to women is not evidence of loving them! You want something from them. Show m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:06 AM
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What is emotional tamponing?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 02:44 AM
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Only 1/3 things on your list are non-sexual and non-labor, but that does answer it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 02:22 AM
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Not sure if this link will work for you but this is an interesting video of the Chukchi https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LMjD_wrb3jk
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 02:04 AM
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Went to Denmark and Sweden a few years ago and that happened to me tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:47 AM
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What’s your opinion on these exaggerated fake butts nowadays?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:41 AM
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Sex is not a commodity any more than hugs are. It’s an activity that people engage in when they like each other, despite what you pill people think. But I guess that’s hard to fathom when you reduce it to entry into their vaginas
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:30 AM
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Do I live in a cave? Where were all these super hot Tinder men when I was on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:20 AM
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No I mean like people in this sub don’t even describe the guys/girls’ appearances in words, nor do they link to public photos of people who they claim are airing their business on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 11:24 PM
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Yeah just somewhat
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 11:23 PM
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It depends what other features they’re paired with. I’m not going to lie and say that short or bald guys don’t have an uphill battle, but it really depends what else is going for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 11:23 PM
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you should be worrying about the actual fertility rate—not the birth rate—because both men and women have declining sperm and egg quality and quantity at younger ages. Blame the plastics, pollution, and obesity for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 09:12 PM
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It’s a shifting 20%, not the top 20%. My 20% may include some guys in the top 5%, some guys around the 50th percentile, some around the 40th, etc. and some other woman’s may have another assortment of guys. The way it best makes sense to me is that a woman may be attracted to top guys, but many of them are just fantasies, the same way everyone is attracted to models and actors. We’ll never meet these people, very few of us have a chance, so it’s almost moot to bring it up. Because we don’t get w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 08:55 PM
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Why are you ranking them lol? The 80/20 thing is distributed, not 80% of women are attracted to the top 20% of guys. It really is 99% of women are attracted to the top 5% of guys AND they’re attracted to other men too, at varying tiers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 08:28 PM
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I didn’t respond to you because I somewhat have a life lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 08:25 PM
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Even anecdotes. Photos of both parties would suffice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 08:25 PM
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No I mean: different features. I know you’re not female but it’s a common experience for girls to show their friends guys who aren’t good looking that they have a massive crush on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 08:24 PM
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I see evidence of women complaining guys only want to sleep with them, but no evidence that those guys are hotter.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 08:23 PM
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There’s overlap for the universally-recognized hot guys of course, but beyond that, women have specific tastes. I know you guys will never believe that though so it’s almost pointless to even bring it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:24 AM
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I believe women find only 20% of men attractive, but it’s not the same 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:21 AM
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u/Vallerie_d your input is requested
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:26 AM
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I didn’t say all or even most. Just think of it this way: if every time you ate chicken and you got food poisoning, you probably wouldn’t eat chicken again. It doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with chicken, or that no one should eat it, just that you’re no longer interested in trying it again because you don’t want to be sick again.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:23 AM
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It’s only a disorder if it negatively affects your life. The dating was probably affecting her life worse than being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:21 AM
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So you’re saying that the mere fact that a woman doesn’t want attachment with a man means she’s fucked up? What if she has a healthy family and friend life? That’s evidence of being fucked up because she’s not in a sexual-romantic relationship with a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:09 AM
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Listen, why do you think it’s such a common joke that men don’t know where the clit is? That men refuse to eat out? If penetration was doing it for these women, they wouldn’t be lamenting lack of attention on the clit. If you’ve forgotten your anatomy lessons, the clit is not really stimulated by penetration, so the majority of women aren’t feeling a whole lot from penetrative sex. Some women (~30%) do enjoy and orgasm from penetrative sex, but the rest don’t. Do women enjoy being close with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:07 AM
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Where is the evidence that average women are sealing the deal with hot men? I don’t see it in any data or in anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:02 AM
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Is it fucked up to not want a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:01 AM
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No…women commonly lie about things like that to avoid hurting men’s feelings. If sex without orgasm doesn’t do it for you, why would it do it for us? Use common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:01 AM
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Read her comment again. She said wanting, not able to connect with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:58 AM
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Not wanting* to form long term relationships. I’m not interested in being abused anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:57 AM
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Those women are lying to you lmao. Sex without orgasm feels good to no one. I’m not not attracted to men, just entirely disinterested in being with them anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:56 AM
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I learned: Men do not know (or care) what consent is Most men are terrible in bed Older men are not more mature Masturbation is usually better than sex It affected me: I became disinterested in men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:37 PM
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I’m here because I like to argue and I’m fairly asocial IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:29 PM
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There’s a lawyer in our midst. Why are you here? ETA: I don’t mean that as an accusation. I really am curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:24 PM
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Is there any evidence that average girls are hooking up with 9-10/10 guys, who then don’t want relationships with them? I know it’s just aNeCdOtAl, but I’ve never seen it in real life. All I’ve ever seen is hot guys fucking hot girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:13 PM
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So leave her?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 09:31 PM
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No one should be using sex as bait, but there also is no right to have sex with someone. If they want to bait you and you’re not okay with it, you have a right to be offended at the manipulation, but you don’t really have a right to be offended that they didn’t have sex with you. Also, men use sex as bait all the time. They don’t want to do chores so they ask for a blowjob or other sex act if they complete one. It’s really not fair of the woman, yet men do it all the time. No one should be using…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:18 PM
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First, you’re assuming the mother wouldn’t agree to a more equal custody arrangement. Second, you forget that in the eyes of the law, joint physical custody is now the presumption, unless faced with countervailing reasons. Third, most mothers would go to the ends of the earth to be with their kids; dads should too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:13 PM
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How is that manipulation? Sounds like she changed her mind. If a man did the exact same thing to me, I’d be like “oh that’s weird,” but I wouldn’t feel abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:11 PM
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How is it a raw deal when they AGREE to it? I’m questioning whether men can accurately attest to their friends’ relationship qualities. I know you guys BELIEVE that you’re a good husband and good father and that all of your friends are too, but you aren’t there in the relationship (in the case of a friend) and you can’t read your wife’s mind. How many men are left and they just can’t seem to figure out why, but the wife has a list of reasons that have been accumulating over years? You guys have …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:07 PM
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From a short online conversation that didn’t result in me making any ad hominem attacks, you called me “filth.” There’s only one reason you could be so angry at completely innocuous speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:39 AM
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Ah, there’s your opinion on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:35 AM
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I’m not reading a 30 page report to find a statement that I know isn’t true. If you make an affirmative, extraordinary claim that goes against not just all conventional wisdom, but nearly the entirety of the literature, it’s up to you to adduce evidence for it. As for the second point, you didn’t distinguish between a woman who doesn’t want to have sex from a woman who is specifically withholding sex as a manipulation tool. The latter woman actually does want to have sex but has weaponized it ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:32 AM
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Well it’s a good thing parents (meaning the dad too) agree to the custody arrangement in 90% of cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:28 AM
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As of 2015, it says1 in 5 women vs 1 in 14 men, and it doesn’t say those men were made to penetrate by a woman. That article doesn’t give examples. I want to see what you would consider withholding sex, as opposed to a woman just not wanting to have sex. I always see men conflate the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:23 AM
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Yes, but for many fathers, their idea of good parenting isn’t a practical idea. I firmly believe fathers are an integral part of children’s lives but if their main role is playing with the kid and buying them things, while the mother is doing all the bathing, cooking, cleaning, and early schooling, then she most likely deserves more custody. As the kids get older, that determination can be adjusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:08 AM
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Lol thinking women are Faberge eggs to be coddled is not caring about us. When women ask for basic safety and equal treatment, you would think we’re asking for the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:05 AM
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Gonna need a source for that first statement. As to the second, can you give a concrete example?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:03 AM
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Sounds rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:46 AM
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I never said they weren’t good fathers. I’m questioning whether they were good husbands. Also, keep in mind that the vast majority of custody arrangements in the U.S. are decided by the parents, not the court. A father must be agreeing to give his kids away if the mother ends up with primary physical custody without a court order. Furthermore, a man may be providing for his children financially but a mother is usually doing more day-to-day providing for the kids, like cooking, cleaning, and emot…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:34 AM
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sexual manipulation So, a woman not in the mood?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:03 AM
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I’m really sorry that happened to you. Tbh yours is the only story in this thread that shows real abuse and manipulation by a woman and I understand why you’re MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 09:36 AM
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There seem to be holes in this story. She had insecurities. She abandoned all responsibility. She screwed you. You didn’t do anything? Isn’t it kind of odd that a woman you were in a relationship with just packed up and left without a trace?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 09:21 AM
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How do you know what those men are like in relationships? They’re “good guys” to you in your friendship. I love my female friends but some of them are toxic in relationships; I wouldn’t say that because they treat me well that guys shouldn’t leave them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 09:19 AM
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There’s also nothing intrinsically wrong about using heroin. Sometimes the conditions that lead to certain choices and the impact of the choices themselves are what need to be criticized. Escorting is one of those things that if completely removed from historical context seems fine, but when couched in history seems ghastly. (Majority) women literally being bought to have their orifices used by men is the commodification of sexuality and human bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 09:08 AM
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And men don’t care about women as people. Guess we’re even.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 09:00 AM
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Not scared, just not interested. Platonic companionship is safe and just as fulfilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:53 PM
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In what way lmao?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:27 PM
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Maybe I have a defective asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:35 AM
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He understood and answered my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:32 AM
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I think you should embrace women voluntarily removing themselves from the dating market. From personal experience, the happiest times in my life were before I ever started dating, and in these years since my last date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:16 AM
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A. Maybe that’s what they do in their free time? B. How would you even know how women are spending their time?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:50 AM
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Or maybe, some women have fulfilling enough lives on their own—with friends, family, work, hobbies, interests, etc.—-that there’s just no time to look for a man, start the dating process, and wade through the duds to incorporate him into her life. You’re assuming women are withdrawing from the dating market due to an embarrassment of riches, but that’s based on the assumption that “all these options” afforded to women are good. In dating, the odds may be good but the goods are odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:21 AM
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But I’m confused…aren’t you glad that women are taking themselves out of the dating market? These aren’t the types of women men like anyway, right? Why is MGTOW good but WGTOW bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 06:06 AM
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Isn’t it more realistic that women just don’t feel like expending the enormous energy towards finding a good man? And it’s easier to have a solitary, equally if not more fulfilling life? Is it really that women have more freedom and power than ever with an ocean of men to choose from It’s not like women can just pick a man of their choice to be their life partner, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:43 AM
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I’ve always found it strange when people say they want their kids to look like them in a racial/skin color context because features make people look far more similar than skin color does. If your kid is the same skin color as you but their features all look like their dad’s, they won’t look like you either. Not to mention features are so random and no one knows what any kid will look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:19 PM
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If a kid had the same features as you but different skin color, would you consider them not looking like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:14 PM
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What do you mean when you say you want your kids to look like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:53 PM
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So then what are you talking about? One-night stands are casual sex, a common form of it at that. It seems you have an unshakable belief that women not only have a lot of casual sex but love every second of it. ETA: also you misread the quote. 61% of women say they did not enjoy their encounter while 62% of men say they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:42 AM
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The bareback statistics went on to add more colour to this image. 61% of women say that their casual sexual experiences, on average, are not equally pleasurable. 62% of men say that they are. Where are you getting this from? Every single study conducted on this topic points to sex with strange men being painful and/or unfruitful the majority of the time. I know you want to think women like casual sex but they don’t a priori. If it’s good, women like it but it’s a big if. ETA: Unfortunately, no m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:20 AM
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Birds of a feather, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:30 AM
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What do you make of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:28 AM
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No orgasm and pain means no joy, yes. The infographic you linked showed a 16% rate of first date sex. That’s a minority of women. My friends and I no longer engage in casual sex. When we did, the men were a mixed bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 11:36 PM
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There’s nothing pathetic about that. You’re not in competition with your sex partners. I’ve talked a lot in this sub about hypersexuality as a result of sexual assault. Girls who have a high amount of partners at a very young age haven’t accomplished anything. They are more likely to have been victims of SA or have some kind of general childhood trauma, leading them to crave sensation-seeking activities. From personal experience, my friends at 18 who had low body counts did not have trauma while…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 11:34 PM
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The sad thing is you’re a minor but probably still have more experience than most men will have in their whole lives. Ew dude why go there? She’s a kid…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 11:16 PM
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Rewording something for clarification is fine; “so you’re saying…” is an example of a question seeking more information, not a restatement of your interlocutor’s point as your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 09:20 AM
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“Secular, but corrupt” and “U.S.-installed” are just qualifiers for the non-Taliban government. The thrust of the point was that there was more popular trust of the Taliban than there was for the other government. Both people made that main point. If the conversation was extremely specific about the reasons behind popular support, then the precision would be important. I’m not one to always point out mansplaining, as I’m pretty pedantic myself. But there are times where it’s just unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 09:19 AM
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The woman’s statement points out support for the Taliban because of the lack of trust in the corrupt government. The man’s statement points out the Taliban’s support because of lack of trust in the government. Secular is just a detail to distinguish the two governments, but it isn’t the point of the statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 09:15 AM
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Repeating exactly what I said and thinking he was making a point, when I made the point first. Don’t be dense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:28 AM
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Weird. I felt nothing ¯_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:27 AM
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I second what Feisty-Saturn said. I know probably a dozen women’s sexual histories and about 4 have double digit body counts. The rest are <5.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:03 AM
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I mean, it’s less a judgment on him than it is a protective measure for yourself. Men often have asymptomatic STDs, while women can have really disastrous outcomes like cancer from certain diseases. If your husband made chicken and you temped it, you’re not downplaying his ability to cook; you’re just making sure that it’s really safe to eat. I just don’t think it’s worth one’s health, regardless of how much you love your partner. Things do happen. Even generally good people screw up. Love shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:58 AM
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Women’s sizing is so manipulative nowadays. The only honest sizing systems left are European and East Asian.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:52 AM
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Mansplaining doesn’t have to come in the form of an interruption. Responding to something a woman said with an explanation of it is one of the most common examples and it’s really annoying. Ex: Woman: “The Taliban, while unpopular, still had more popular support than the secular, but corrupt, Afghan government.” Man: “Even though the Taliban were unpopular, it was clear they rose to power because the people didn’t trust the U.S.-installed government.” literally exactly what that woman said but r…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:50 AM
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I mean, ”should be” and “what is” are sometimes two different things. He shouldn’t cheat, and he most likely won’t, but is getting an STD an acceptable price to pay for your dislike of condoms? The only times I didn’t use a condom were when I was raped or too drunk and it freaked me out so much I immediately got STD checks thereafter. There’s a reason why pregnant women have two recommended STD screenings, and sadly I’ve read far too many stories of the second one (third trimester) coming back p…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:42 AM
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If he gets tested on Tuesday, has unprotected sex on Wednesday, and the results come back negative on Thursday, your date on Saturday could be in jeopardy if he just picked one up. Gonorrhea and genital herpes incubate in as few as 1-2 days. I might want to rethink that position on STDs if I were you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:33 AM
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ass eating feels like nothing to me. Are there many nerve endings down there?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:24 AM
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There is no evidence for the statement that the majority of women like casual sex. There is, however, evidence for the statement that women do not orgasm nearly at the same rate as men in heterosexual encounters. So, men who like casual sex wish they had the problem that women who like casual sex have. I’ll agree with that, but it’s a very narrow statement given the size of the group of women. The risk of casual sex is very high to women; it’s not just “a bit shit.” Men like casual sex (or sex a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:46 PM
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I was a 00 in Theory pants back in 2013. That corresponded to a hip measurement of about 34”, when I was 14. I can no longer fit into those pants, as I have a hip measurement of 36.5”. However, I just bought another pair of size 00 pants from Theory a few months ago that fit perfectly. Even the same brands vanity size. ETA: to fix dates
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:32 PM
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I also know exactly how much you should weigh for a given height I present you this: https://www.boredpanda.com/same-weight-different-size-transformations/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:09 AM
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Eh, with vanity sizing nowadays it’s a far less valid indicator. A size 4–even 10 years ago—is like a size 0 today.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:06 AM
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Those women are probably the ones that are getting something out of it; every study conducted on this topic proves the orgasm gap so it’s not my opinion that women are leaving the majority of sexual encounters unfulfilled. A starving person would accept a meal they wouldn’t pick out at a restaurant but they wouldn’t pick a meal that would give them food poisoning. A match doesn’t mean a sexual encounter resulted from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 08:27 PM
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Dude I do not have the attention span to watch that whole thing. Can you TLDR? Listen, my argument is very simple. Men want casual sex because it feels good to them. Women do not like casual sex by and large because it doesn’t feel good to them. So it’s not a case of men wishing they had women’s problem because men don’t wish that sex was not pleasurable and dangerous, otherwise they wouldn’t want it in the first place! And women do not say that with any regularity. The majority of women I hear …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 07:04 AM
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But you don’t wish you had uncomfortable, painful, boring, unpleasant, or potentially dangerous sexual encounters with strangers. So women do not have a problem you wish you had.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:49 AM
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Uh…do men cum in women they aren’t in a relationship with?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:46 AM
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What I’m saying is that you’re misunderstanding the problem we actually have.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:41 AM
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the option to fuck hotties when ever we wanted Who said this is a benefit to women? Casual sex for men is pleasurable and relatively safe. Not so for women. That’s why I object to your envy; you’re projecting male enjoyment onto women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:38 AM
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So you wish you had that problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:15 AM
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But which problem do you think we have?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 01:24 AM
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Just on the sex issue, men think we’ve been gifted a wellspring of good fortune but sex isn’t to us what it is to you. If sex meant reliable orgasms (like it does to men), we’d love it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 01:23 AM
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No…my dad works on behalf of male and female SA and SH victims, and my brother and I have many a conversation about feminism. My uncles are very blasé about attractive women; they don’t get starstruck if they see one. Unlike what you think about women, I don’t think all men suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 12:34 AM
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Can women even join?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 12:31 AM
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I guess my brother and dad and uncles aren’t men either because they don’t act like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 07:46 PM
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no one patronizes me so maybe it’s a you thing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 07:45 PM
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You haven’t answered my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 06:51 PM
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In what way do you treat us like teenagers? And if that’s the case, we must be treating you like toddlers with all the cleaning and feeding we do for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 06:09 PM
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I agree with that. Although some people (men and women) crave novelty, not quality. Just hope you don’t land in their lap.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:12 AM
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Funnily enough, I do not agree with the liberal feminist viewpoint that women should have sex whenever and with whomever they want. I think sex is very important and doing it with strangers puts women in danger, physically and mentally. But, women engage in casual sex for many reasons, many of which are due to cultural brainwashing, and I don’t think it’s fair to judge one’s fitness as a relationship partner on the resulting partner count. If what you’re looking to avoid is a mentally ill, flipp…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:11 AM
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Well I can provide a justification for exactly how it’s important. I don’t want a man who has cheated because I’ll always have a fear he’ll cheat on me. Other women may not see any risk, and therefore it wouldn’t be a material detail to them. How a number, on its own, could even provide enough information to form a prediction about is unclear to me. If anything, aren’t the details more important than the number?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:22 PM
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Sexual past is a lifestyle choice at the time of engagement in those experiences, but after the fact they are just a part of you, and therefore unchangeable. I’ve been in this sub for a while and read many a post on high-n counts. Every single study linked never accounted for confounding variables that might’ve led a woman to be high-n in the first place. A girl who was raped and developed hypersexual behavior is entirely different than a party girl, or a cheater, or whatever. As I said before, …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:11 PM
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Because cheating or BDSM affects me. How many people I slept with, on its own, does not affect him. And there’s nothing dishonest about not bringing up your past sexual experiences. Are you supposed to broach that topic at breakfast or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:02 PM
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It’s due to the unfounded stigma that he doesn’t need to know. It’s like if a parent finds out their kid is gay and then kicks them out of the house. Well they were gay the whole time and you loved them then, only when you found out this information did you switch everything up. Past sexual history is a topic which has a high degree of social messaging attached to it, most of which is more hysterical than any intrinsic importance of the acts themselves would suggest. For a man who blindly believ…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 10:45 PM
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Where does honesty end? Do you have to tell your current partner every detail of any past sexual interaction? The names of the participants? Their jobs? What does that tell you about the person, especially if it happened a long time ago? I would want to know if my partner cheated, and general parameters of his experience, but I do not require specific details that are irrelevant to my relationship. For example, I would want to know if he practiced BDSM in past relationships because that’s a mate…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 10:31 PM
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Why are you so upset? Your comment asked for replies to a scenario you set out and I answered. I just said it’s impolite and creepy to sexualize a woman at the gym. I see attractive men and I see attractive women but I don’t ogle them. If someone is wearing something eye-catching, I don’t see how that translates into launching an extended staring session at their private parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 10:21 PM
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Uh yeah? I would notice it because it obviously stands out, like neon green hair, but I would not be drooling over him. It would be more shocking than attractive. This girl’s butt (or anyone else’s for that matter) deserves no more than a passing glance. That guy was creepily staring for a long period of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:58 PM
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Girls who are active on reddit are likely themselves unattractive Also mentally ill, if not unattractive. The reason all the guys these girls see are unattractive is because they aren’t going to gyms, bars, and clubs. Eh, that’s not really true. Even when I was participating in the ~social scene~, the guys at bars and clubs were equally good looking to the guys at the library. The personalities of those two types differ more than the physical characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:36 PM
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What? Couldn’t she just have been taught by a previous partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:27 PM
1

I just don’t see the relevance. If he likes being in a relationship with her right now, her past shouldn’t change that. He’s dating the person standing in front of him, not the person she was or acts she did years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:26 PM
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Couldn’t help myself when faced with bad women’s anatomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:39 AM
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Not to be pedantic but most women have stretch marks,developed during puberty, and 80-90% have cellulite.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:36 AM
2

So did you not enjoy your times when you were actually in relationships with men (after the stage of them wanting/chasing you ended)?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:01 PM
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All I’m saying was the thrust of the question was about how to order sex as a need. Few were arguing it wasn’t any kind of need, but there was debate as to whether it was a survival need (in this thread and previous threads).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:43 PM
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Wait how were you boy crazy if you weren’t attracted to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:36 PM
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Since the question invoked Maslow and essential, life-sustaining needs, an answer using a colloquial form of need isn’t responsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:31 PM
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You could fairly read that implication in. I just don’t understand what men want. If the woman/women you’re seeing is/are having casual, unprotected sex with you, how could you be pro-life unless you want innumerable kids out there? I won’t argue that this viewpoint is held by the majority of men, but there are many men I’ve seen online discussing abortion who fit into that category. (Obviously religious men aren’t having casual sex so they aren’t the object of my inquiry.)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 10:32 AM
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Good bot
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 10:20 AM
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Doesn’t matter what women’s “views” are. Many pro-lifers get abortions too. You still didn’t answer my question. How are women supposed to satisfy men’s requirements of remaining abstinent, having unprotected (or any) sex with them, yet avoiding abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 10:19 AM
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What I don’t understand is men in general don’t like condoms and don’t like when women don’t have sex with them. Yet some of those same men are anti-abortion. Can someone explain that to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 09:58 AM
1

what do you mean by non-necessary procedure?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 09:52 AM
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Yeah you’re fucking right I’m upset because of all the grooming and predation my friends and I have faced. It’s absolutely vile what lengths men will go to to sleep with a teenager and then turn around and call you a consenting adult. Men see a hot girl, they get horny, and they want that girl. It’s that simple. So if you see a 14 year old who you think is hot, you’re going to get horny? There’s no limit for you? Only the law dictates your morality? And you wonder why women think most men are cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 10:13 AM
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It doesn’t take a PhD level neuroscientist to perceive the difference between 18 year olds and mid-twentysomethings. Their language, decision making skills, and life experience are all subpar compared to older adults. It doesn’t matter to me whether their brains are structurally fully developed, for effectively they are still green.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 10:09 AM
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18 and 19 year old -women- girls are far more attractive than 24+ year olds This is where you lose me. I don’t engage with ephebophilic screeds.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 10:06 AM
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I’ll keep doing it on the hope some advice gets through.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 09:22 AM
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You’re being slippery. I’m obviously not calling 25 year old women children, but I certainly am for 18 year old girls. 18 year olds have soft boiled brains. Wanting to date specifically that age so that you can pull the wool over their eyes with pronouncements of their maturity and dazzling them with gifts is obscene. If you want a young woman who is just as attractive, if not more so, than a newly minted adult, date a 24+ year old. But it seems that men aren’t really dating younger for looks, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 09:21 AM
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I love how you deftly clarify “18-25” when in your previous post you say younger (legal) girls In common parlance, the adjective legal when applied to women usually refers to teenagers (ex, the “barely legal” category of porn websites). I was talking about teenagers because yes, 18 year olds still have baby faces and acne. They’re still seniors in high school in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 09:13 AM
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It’s hotter to have a baby face and acne? You’re sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 08:52 AM
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Well there is; older women serve as social guides to deter younger women from making the same mistakes. I tell younger women whenever I see them IRL or online to avoid creepy older men. Been there, done that, have the scars to prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 08:51 AM
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And they took it like champions. People tend to accept their situations, especially when they’re suffering and unable to change it. The brain rationalizes the situation so you can cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 08:47 AM
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Couldn’t leave because of emotional abuse or lack of financial means or some other factor. Not because she was enthralled with his physical beauty lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 12:20 AM
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I’m not using high school as my only example. I just said starting from high school (when I was about 16) to now (22), I’ve heard of and experienced pain during sexual encounters.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 11:59 AM
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Physically, like I said. There’s no evidence there are male-female structural differences in psychosocial development.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 10:14 AM
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Women don’t actually mature earlier than men, except in terms of physical puberty, and that’s only by about a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 09:59 AM
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From high school to now, I knew of girls who were leaving sexual encounters sore and sometimes bloody. And not from bdsm/kink/rough sex. It’s extremely common.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 07:33 AM
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Why do you assume every woman even has a fuckzone?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 01:12 AM
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Women who have no intention of having sex early aren’t swayed by looks and “value”. And the idea of not being able to “afford” to pass up the opportunity reveals a scarcity mindset that most women don’t subscribe to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 11:24 PM
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Probably because there’s a history of men saying they’re bisexual before they came out as gay. You just literally never know, as a woman, what the truth is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 08:51 PM
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The standards porn sets are for women’s sexual behavior, not physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 09:24 AM
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You can’t convince me that anal isn’t painful for the majority of women. Indigenous people in South America and Africa also don lip plates; it doesn’t make them painless because it’s widely practiced.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 09:23 AM
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Why do you people keep saying young women are dating older men? The vast majority of couples are within 1-4 years in age. A college sophomore would be looked at as a freak if some 30 year old man arrived at her college dorm to pick her up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 06:45 AM
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But that would only happen after you’ve known her for years. In which case, you should’ve been vetting and getting to know her during that time. When we go on a first date, we have literally no idea who the person is or what to expect, and thus, we’re extremely apprehensive and we have to do intense background research on the guy to protect ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 05:14 AM
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Obviously if they’re able takes into consideration whether that action will put one in danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 04:58 AM
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Oh. Yeah, of course it’s naive to think that the world would operate like that, but it is my fantasy of an ideal world.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 10:43 AM
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What do you mean by “we”? All I was saying was the obvious statement of if we’re all helping each other out, then we’re all benefiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 10:38 AM
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It’s not so much wanting to be entertained as it is wanting to be engaged. When I’m with my female friends, I want a healthy back and forth, not just surface level talk about some random topic. I don’t want a guy to do a song and dance routine, just be interested in a lively exchange with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 10:19 AM
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I don’t think “boring” describes a man with a lack of certain social behaviors. It’s if he’s unable to hold a conversation. Like if talking to him is pulling teeth, he never has any interesting suggestions for dates, no interests/hobbies, etc. Most people are “boring” 90+% of the time, in that we all go to school/work, go home, eat, sleep, repeat. What’s interesting is someone who has novel takes on current events or a liking for an esoteric topic or a unique talent. That’s achievable for most p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 10:10 AM
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People should protect others if they’re able. They don’t have to go out of their way to be knights-in-shining-armor, but we would all benefit from being looked out for, and returning the favor when possible. I consider this gender neutral. The only people you should be willing to give your life for are your immediate family members.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 07:18 AM
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Those women your age probably got into relationships in their 20s and 30s and are no longer on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 07:14 AM
1

Low self-esteem, misunderstanding of the realities of dating, trauma from assault that made it hard to speak up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 11:48 AM
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I think he means antivirals, which would be a godsend.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 11:25 AM
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That reveals almost a purely sexual—not romantic or aesthetic attraction—to women, though. That you guys care more about women’s bodies than their faces doesn’t mean you body shame less than women, more that you only are thinking of women for one purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 11:19 AM
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I don’t anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 08:24 PM
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I’ve engaged with posters who’ve said it on this very sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 08:18 PM
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No lol. Men fully admit that they don’t have any interest in women apart from the physical.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 04:52 AM
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Wives and husbands are entitled to mutual support and love from each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 06:21 AM
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And it seems she has problems with friends and family members as well so she’s clearly off on the whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 05:30 AM
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Anti-condom 2. Bad in bed 3. Bad at consent
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 05:26 AM
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Where do they need to go?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 04:55 AM
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What does this comment even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 04:46 AM
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It’s clear they don’t understand what casual sex feels like or its dangers if they think it’s a privilege for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 04:45 AM
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No, sex doesn’t matter to most women because it isn’t enjoyable. It’s not a case of having an embarrassment of riches and being spoiled. To us, the abundance of casual sex just isn’t a perk; it doesn’t feel as good to us as it does for men. Now, in a relationship the situation changes slightly, but the reality of casual sex isn’t all that enticing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 04:44 AM
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Just on the rape issue,in a study of 1,882 men, 120 (6.4%) reported committing an attempted or completed rape, as defined by the (strict) parameters from these questions: Have you ever been in a situation where you tried, but for various reasons did not succeed, in having sexual intercourse with an adult by using or threatening to use physical force (twisting their arm, holding them down, etc.) if they did not cooperate? Have you ever had sexual intercourse with someone, even though they did no …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 09:20 AM
2

What? Who is uncle Pete?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 07:21 AM
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I love how you think serious child sexual abuse is equivalent to some women yelling at you. You people are a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 06:48 AM
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If all it takes to make you anti-feminist was a few people criticizing, you weren’t strong in your convictions to start with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 09:31 PM
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Who? What ages? Which regions of the country?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 09:29 PM
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What arguments were feminists bringing up against them? Was it about a prioritization of resources? Could you link me examples? I’m not being sarcastic I really want to see what the discourse was around them at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 09:36 AM
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Like the previous poster said, if MRAs just want to help men, feminists would be all for it. Instead, they disingenuously rattle off a bevy of men’s issues they have no intention of addressing, just to criticize feminism. They’re more interested in attacking women than helping men. I’m what most on here would call a “radical feminist” and I would fully support men trying to institute men’s therapy groups, treatment programs, shelters, etc. Those aren’t attacks on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 09:19 AM
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You wrote a whole bunch of word salad without directly responding to my statements. Women are saying “hey don’t do this thing” and you guys for some reason interpret that as “be our protectors in all situations.” All I ask, and it clearly seems to be too much for you, is to intervene when you see your friends doing or saying things that are wrong. Whether that means broaching the consent conversation at neutral times, physically intervening if you witness him being pushy towards a girl, or repor…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 09:11 AM
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The only times our pleas for protection are directed toward these hypothetical “good men” are when we ask them to tell other men to stop abusing us. Otherwise, the majority of our statements are targeted at the men who DO abuse, i.e. “don’t cat-call”, “take no for an answer”, etc. If you weren’t a cat-caller or a persistent asshole, why would you think those statements are directed at you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 05:47 AM
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We’re not asking for HELP (a positive action) we’re asking for the absence of HURT. There would be no reason for anyone to help us if no one was hurting us.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 05:25 AM
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What are you talking about? Police officers, judges, etc. didn’t sign up to protect women, they signed up to protect everyone. And the “woke crowd” OP is referring to talks about how the average man (a civilian) can make life easier for the average woman, which includes not abusing women. No one said men had to stop participating in society, unless of course you consider harassing and abusing women an integral part of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 05:15 AM
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I don’t think anyone is asking you to help women; we’re asking you not to abuse us lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 03:54 AM
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People on this sub use all kinds of tongue-in-cheek flairs. Do you also object to men calling themselves misogynists? Or referring to women as sluts and whores?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 07:28 AM
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Where did she state she hates men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 06:18 PM
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Repulsion is context dependent. I love pizza but if someone is pressuring me to eat it when I’m already full, or shoving it down my throat, I will be repulsed by it. You can very much love your partner and be attracted to him and not want sex at that moment. I used to date a guy who would grab my boobs basically whenever he wanted: in public, in private, wherever. Did I like it during sex? Yes, but the situations he was doing the same actions in did not induce pleasure. I told him to stop multip…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 06:07 PM
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So counter hypothetical: If you had a absolutely horrendous day at work and were incredibly irritated and on edge (not with your husband but just in a general sense) and then alone one offered you 10,000 dollars to immediately have less than enthusiastic sex with him, would you say no? Absolutely. That $10k would be eaten up by weekly therapy appointments in no time. I don’t think you understand women if you think most of them would take that deal. To men, sex isn’t a big thing, that’s why they …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 05:55 PM
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That’s not what financial abuse refers to. It’s when your partner controls your money supply, withholds essentials, and requires you to either ask for or complete tasks to gain access to your own money.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 04:53 PM
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I know they do. I specifically was talking about suicide though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 07:06 AM
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It’s not their decision if they’re manipulated and coerced. Which they are, because their minds aren’t working right yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 07:05 AM
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I agree everyone needs help who is struggling. But that doesn’t mean we (women) have to give our bodies to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 07:04 AM
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Perhaps those men were suicidal because they experienced a life-altering (albeit, traumatic) event, not because they didn’t have a relationship. But your earlier assertion that not having a relationship is cause for suicide hints at a fragile mental state to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 07:58 PM
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I was referring to these parts: get jealous (quite rightly) and start trying to kill off the top 20% rising suicide rates instead of focusing on inventing new technology, creating medicines, composing music etc Men stop wanting to live because they don’t have girlfriends? That implies most of you are on the edge anyway and having a gf is the only thing keeping you away from jumping off.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 05:10 PM
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Do men really deteriorate that easily? Is that all it takes?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 05:00 PM
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Maybe it’s generational. I know two people my age (22) who have engaged in pegging, anal fingering, or rimming for their similarly aged boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 06:48 PM
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Most of the women who responded in the thread said they didn’t have a spark, not that their partners weren’t ambitious enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 05:47 PM
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Perhaps she’s withholding details so you don’t have a low opinion of your father? And you may know about these guys, but you don’t know what it’s like to be in a romantic relationship with them. Unless there is evidence of your mom having ulterior motives, you shouldn’t assume the worst of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 05:33 PM
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False. If George Clooney got fat right now, he would be a beautiful fat person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 05:30 PM
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Or, and hear me out, people join marriages for love and satisfaction and if those two things go away, what is the justification to stay in the marriage? Considering divorce is a process no one wants to go through, why do you assume the most callous and selfish of intentions of your mother? I know you probably imbibed TRP ideology but you can’t just default to “she did this because of female nature” without thinking critically about the facts of the situation. And to be honest, maybe you don’t kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 05:28 PM
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Cute. When I hear of a man getting murdered while walking down the street, just because his manly frame was so appealing, I’ll happily crusade against such atrocities. Until then, I’ll laugh in your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 06:55 AM
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So your mom, who chose to be with your dad (while she was still a woman, I’m assuming) woke up one day, divorced him, and never asked about him again? He was a wonderful partner but it was only that her feminine wiles kicked in and told her “divorce him”. Okay...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 05:08 AM
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Do you think there’s a reason she doesn’t care about him anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 05:04 AM
1

Why aren’t they married anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 05:02 AM
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Maybe unattractive to some but beauty and attractiveness are not the same thing. I see beautiful fat women and handsome fat men all the time. They just have to lose weight to be the total package.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 02:24 AM
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Not all fat people are the same. There are beautiful fat people and ugly fat people. It’s about your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:49 AM
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Yeah and in relationships, I (and to my knowledge other women) don’t calculate respect by attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:47 AM
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Young adults under 25 still have underdeveloped brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:46 AM
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Okay so it’s clear you’re drawing a false equivalency because you want to make men victims. I love how your types always say feminists victimize themselves yet you’re doing the exact same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:45 AM
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A lot of very young adults still have things like acne and baby fat which they grow out of a few years later. I think people of both genders (as a general rule) probably look the best around 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 08:45 PM
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Men aren’t assaulted because they are men. No man looks at another man and kills him because he is a man. Whereas women are killed because they are women. It doesn’t mean that men aren’t victimized on the street or in bars, it just means they’re not victimized for their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 12:29 AM
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I...just want you to answer my question. Are men killed in the world by other men for the fact they are men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 12:28 AM
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Yeah losing respect leads to losing attraction but not the other way around. And especially not for a man I’m not in a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 12:26 AM
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Have you ever been in a prison? No man is in there for one slap of a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 12:26 AM
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No. I think we should teach children the signs of predation, but given their brains are still mushy and immature, it’s not a foolproof strategy. They have lower ability to think as rationally as fully grown adults so they’re more likely to become victims. Those relationships are inherently manipulative; children aren’t capable of freely deciding to be in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 12:25 AM
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It’s irrelevant whether you care or not. The only point was that you hear one side of the story and conclude it was a divorced guy who was screwed over by the family court system and I’m telling you, he isn’t being “screwed over,” he’s reaping what he sowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 12:22 AM
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No? Why would I? They did nothing wrong. Blame is for misconduct.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 07:00 AM
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Minors are off-limits PERIOD. Age differences of more than 3 years under the age of 25 are suspect. If a woman is older than 25, old men trying to sleep with her are CREEPY but the woman is old enough to make her own decisions. Children should not be blamed for being manipulated into unequal and predatory relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 05:27 AM
0

Who told you that? Respect is not calculated by attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 05:00 AM
1

What? That’s happened to me before, I don’t give a shit lol. Do other women get offended or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 04:42 AM
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Those guys “dating” teenagers are predators. They can’t get women their own age so they have to trick and lure children with lower critical thinking skills. An unequal power dynamic is not just based on the existence of a boss/subordinate or teacher/student relationship. If one party has more life experience, more money, more independence, they can use that to entice their victims who don’t know any better. They can also lord that over them, making it difficult to exit those relationships. And I…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 03:54 AM
1

So someone (a man) goes up to another man and beats him up or kills him, they’re doing it because of his gender? It’s a bias killing?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 02:40 AM
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Answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 02:38 AM
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Jesus Christ you all have a victim narrative in your heads. I know so many of my friends’ fathers who spent their time getting drunk and fucking other women and were then surprised that they got visitation only and large child support and alimony orders. I’m sure these men don’t tell you about how they parent and I’m sure you’re not getting any other sides of the story from their ex-wives and kids. You know how you guys always say that you can’t trust women who allege abuse or sexual assault bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 02:30 AM
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Are they assaulted for being men or for some other reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 06:33 PM
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those girls aren’t blameless either ( I mean unless they were forcibly raped obviously), they’re old enough to know it’s wrong. Ah, blaming the victim I see. If an old person who’s supposed to be taking care of you grooms and manipulates you into a sexual encounter, that’s not the child’s fucking fault. Your brain is not fully developed until age 25, and your reasoning and judgment skills are the last to form. The onus is on the adult in the situation not to take advantage of a child they’re sup…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 06:26 PM
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How do you know what people are assuming? Are people walking up to you and saying these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 06:10 PM
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Everything you just said is anecdotal. And women slapping a man on his shoulder is hardly DV. You people conflate getting the crap beaten out of you and getting lightly hit as all being examples of DV. Tell that to the women with detached retinas, broken bones, and strangulation injuries.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 06:09 PM
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No it doesn’t. When’s the last time you heard of a teenage boy getting raped because he fell asleep on a frat house couch?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 06:06 PM
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Are you nuts? I have resulting PTSD that hinders my concentration, motivation, ability to complete basic tasks and enjoy life. What the literal fuck...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 06:05 PM
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You can go to a bar without worrying about being roofied. You can break up with a partner without being stalked and murdered. You can get drunk in public without being sexually assaulted :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 05:38 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 10:45 PM
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Okay so what do you think the narrative should be? What larger phenomena can you couch her death in?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 10:44 PM
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What do you think is a more salient narrative about the Sarah Everard case?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 11:47 PM
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No...we’re literally like “why can men walk down the street without being followed and harassed but women can’t?”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 08:33 PM
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That’s not The View, it’s The Talk. The View is on ABC, The Talk is on CBS.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 11:21 PM
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First off, it’s The Talk, and secondly, no one watches that show. It comes on at 2 in the afternoon after the soap operas. No need to cancel an already viewerless show. Feminists hate people like Rush Limbaugh but there wasn’t a concerted effort to try to cancel him either; he was just heavily criticized any time he said anything misogynistic (which was frequently).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 11:03 PM
1

Radical feminists do not like Kopmala.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 10:53 PM
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That analogy doesn’t apply. The number one thing that makes you a good doctor is your judgement. Two people with an equally high amount of knowledge of medications and conditions will give different recommendations based on their judgment of the situation. High scores don’t tell you anything about a doctor’s ability to think on his feet or think outside the box. And after a few years in the profession, they have enough on the job experience and mentors to have learned far more about how to care …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 10:47 PM
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Can confirm. Was coerced by one of those types. Red flag #1 should’ve been a 31 year old pursuing me when I was 18 ¯_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 10:37 PM
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Having high MCAT and GPA scores doesn’t make you a good doctor. I live in a part of the country filled with world class hospitals and doctors and my parents and I have had both good and bad experiences with male and female Ivy League (Harvard, Columbia, and Yale) educated doctors across of all ages (35-70ish). What makes the most difference is how willing they are to listen to you, how conservative their approach is, and how creative they are in prescribing medications or ordering tests. Perhaps…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 10:28 PM
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You people are obsessed with the money aspect of it. FDS has never said anywhere that every date has to be a luxurious outing paid for by the man, just that the first few should show effort on his part with regard to planning. If you live in any major city, you can plan a cheap museum date in the morning, a free play in the park in the afternoon, and a delicious mid-range dinner in the evening. FDS actually warns against lovebombing (expensive gifts in the beginning, extravagant dinners, pronoun…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:40 PM
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Those 20% of women are not in the same group as the supposed 20% of women having sex with the top 20% of men. Men’s looks don’t make us cum :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:19 PM
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There’s no way that can be true given 80% of women cannot cum vaginally.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 03:05 PM
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High value means you’re a “catch”: good person in a relationship context (loving, caring, empathetic, problem solving, etc.) coupled with being well-rounded and interesting. Someone you’d want to spend your life with/have kids with. An asshole investment banker who receives a lot of attention is not a catch. A doctor who goes to the strip club every weekend is not a catch. If your parents would be worried about you dating him, chances are he’s filled with red flags, and thus, low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 02:18 PM
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So heterosexual women don’t like naked men? They don’t like penis? Not in a disembodied photo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 04:57 AM
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Men I attract: Sexual abusers, psychological problems, extremely smart/educated
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 04:38 AM
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Girl you’ve understood it fully, these men are lying to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 03:58 AM
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There are many low value rich guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 03:54 AM
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What do you mean by emotional tampon? I keep seeing this term but no one ever defines it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 03:41 PM
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Porn may or may not cause physical ED but it can definitely cause it psychologically. If you’re accustomed to one very specific method of being turned on that releases a rush of dopamine, a slowed-down, less-flashy experience (in-person foreplay leading to sex) may not do it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 02:54 PM
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How is a doctor a high-caliber man? He has a high-caliber job and probably a high salary but if he’s an ugly, insufferable asshole, he’s low-caliber.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 02:43 PM
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idk, the vibe i get from this sub is that most women are asexual creatures who only give sex to receive some type of award, or as an award in of itself. Woman here! No, we don’t have sex for a prize, or to reward men; we have sex when we are attracted to and turned on by our partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 03:01 AM
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The tiny percentage of women who make things up to the police are either mad at their partner or have something wrong with their heads. But the story usually stops at the arrest. Only someone with deep issues would keep the lie up all the way through a trial or their partner takes a plea bargain (which could last longer than a year). Also if there’s no evidence other than her word, the case will be dismissed or a jury will acquit. That’s why rape convictions are so rare, for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 02:30 AM
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An easier disqualification would just be “no women with sexual trauma.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 02:25 AM
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Learn what? If you don’t click with someone you don’t click; if your life circumstances don’t align, then the relationship might end. It doesn’t mean you failed. Say you’re a person who really likes to travel and you keep meeting people who want to stay in the current city they live in. Your relationship can end if you diverge from your partner on those grounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 02:24 AM
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Partners make you angrier than any friend ever could.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 02:10 AM
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If you’re responding to a domestic disturbance call, by definition those are not female friends lying about their male work friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 07:34 PM
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What utility? The only things I “ask” of any of my friends is to talk to me, go to concerts/parties/museums/restaurants with me, and discuss problems either of us may have. The way you describe friendships is so foreign to most of us here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 07:31 PM
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Yes, women are human. It doesn't matter that we have things in common. What matters is that women do not do things for men, do not view friendships the same way as men do, and do not relate to men the same way other men do. What matters is that a "friendship" with a woman serves HER purposes, not mine. It serves the woman's purposes, not the man's. I need friendships that actually do something for ME, sometimes. What are you talking about? What ways do you think women view friendships that are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 07:22 PM
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6’7” is far too tall. 6’5” is the absolute upper limit of a guy I’d date and I’m 5’8”. Most women want max 6’2” or 6’3”. 5’10”-6’2” is the perfect range.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 01:06 AM
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From most to least attractive: 1. 10-12% 2. 15% 3. 20% 4. 6-7% 5. 25% 6. 3-4% 7. 30% 8. 35% 9. 40%
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 12:57 AM
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Can’t minoxidil cause low blood pressure? And finasteride has some effects on male fertility, no? Natural is really the best way!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 12:45 AM
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Yeah, 15% is fine. Please don’t hurt yourself lol. If I’m not mistaken, steroids can cause things like acne, heart rhythm problems, and baldness down the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 10:19 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oooSMuuFRws
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 10:09 PM
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Exhibit A: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oooSMuuFRws
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 10:09 PM
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Men and women want different things: https://www.maxim.com/maxim-man/perfect-body-shapes-according-to-men-and-women-2018-1
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 09:52 PM
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That’s honestly okay. Really, I’m not trying to gaslight you. Most women (even the super hot ones) don’t have stringent requirements about ab muscle definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 09:51 PM
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Knowing that a man did all that stuff alone would be unattractive. That guy’s muscles are not getting most women wet, I promise. It’s like looking at a sculpture in a museum; it’s beautiful and you admire the effort but it doesn’t evoke real feelings in you.A guy like this (at 15%) is plenty attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 09:48 PM
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90+% of the men in this sub call all women whores, mentally ill, selfish, narcissistic, only useful for sex, gold-digging, etc. So forgive the women of PPD if we’re sick and tired of hearing that shit and lash out. While I have sympathy for men (outside of manosphere) who are going through it, I have absolutely none for those who think the cure is women being indentured sex servants for them. And as for men of PPD, they’ve proven they’re not worth my sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 04:55 PM
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That’s right on the edge of “too muscular” for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 04:51 PM
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Eh not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 04:51 PM
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Wanting to have sex because you’re horny is quintessentially, a sex drive. Choosing to suppress those urges due to other considerations doesn’t mean we don’t have them. Men suppress those urges too, yet you seem to think it’s different.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 04:50 PM
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First off, it’s not making excuses if you actually don’t want to have sex with that person. Would you call men choosing not to have sex with children or family members making excuses? Even if they’re extremely horny at that moment in time? No of course you wouldn’t because we have societal rules and laws we have to follow, regardless of our animalistic urges. Women not wanting to die from sex (through pregnancy or disease) does not mean we don’t have a sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 04:48 PM
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And as for why women don’t act exactly like men, it’s because sex has inherent consequences like pregnancy and diseases and it is usually bad (which we only know from past experiences once we start having sex).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 04:20 PM
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Dating behavior is outside the scope of this discussion. We’re talking about sex. Think about social situations where women and men are mixing and mingling and lots of sex is happening ex. colleges, Woodstock, raves, etc.) Those are the freest, most natural places to observe women’s sexual behavior. There is no “wining and dining” or any other rituals to get women to have sex. If we see someone we like, without any social pressure or restrictions, we have sex with them because we’re horny. Men d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 04:19 PM
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Yes it is. I’ll just speak for myself. Before I ever had sex the first time, boys in school made me horny and want to explore sex with them. When I finally had sex a few times, I realized it wasn’t what I was expecting because they were all doing it wrong or I wasn’t that attracted to them. My negative experiences made me not desire the type of sex I was having but not sex in general. I still have a drive, but knowing what sex usually entails, it’s not as appealing to me. So what that commenter …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 04:14 PM
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Three things: That isn’t the definition of sex drive. But even if it was, by your definition, men don’t have a sex drive either. Even when they’re really horny, they have criteria and most of them have a modicum of self-control. They may be at a level 10 of “wow I just need to have sex right now” but they will only fuck a woman they’re attracted to. You seem to think that once men feel they have to have sex, any woman near them will do (I guess that includes their family members, co-workers, bos…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 04:02 PM
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Your formula for muscles is off. The more muscular after a certain point, the less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 03:46 PM
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[...]because women are deeply obsessed with shutting us up Yet he’s the one who was trying to shut me up about my experience with loneliness. You lot make fun of feminists, POC, leftists, etc. for participating in the so-called Oppression Olympics, and he just did the exact same thing by saying “That is it? Men go YEARS without friends and relationships. Having one long period of loneliness is nothing lol.” But if it’s the case that you enjoy our misery why not be outright and just say so? What …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 03:43 PM
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What? I never said any of that. I just said the requirement to have the term “good-looking” bestowed upon you is a nice face, and that if you don’t have that, those other qualities won’t get you there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 02:07 PM
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Yes but a good looking face is necessary to be considered attractive. If you don’t have that fundamental attribute, height, money, muscles, status, etc. is worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 01:46 PM
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What? Height doesn’t affect how your face looks. Looks to most of us is measured by the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 01:33 PM
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It is like men saying women need to have H cup level breasts This is pretty pedantic but there is no such thing as “H cup level breasts” or any other letter that can tell you how big a woman’s breasts are on it’s own. Bra sizes are a ratio of band to bust; cup letter doesn’t denote an absolute volume of breast tissue. https://images.app.goo.gl/F2GRvbMN6dLRc7gL9
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 01:27 PM
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Single motherhood? You’re joking. Not using contraception is what gets you pregnant, not sluttiness. Women who have sex with long term partners have sex more individual times than a woman bouncing from man to man, it doesn’t mean they’ll get pregnant. Also, class plays a role here. UMC women who sleep around use confirms, birth control, and are more likely to have abortions compared to LMC women. So you only see the effects of LMC women having sex. And that could mean a teenager having unprotect…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 12:07 PM
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Attention seeking, narcissism, and insecurity for instance. For many (not all) sex is used to fill a void. I actually agree with this but for different reasons. The promiscuous behavior and negative personality traits are not in a cause and effect relationship with each other; they’re both co-occurring effects of a separate cause: unresolved trauma. Almost no one who grew up in a stable, loving home with no history of sexual assault turns out with both of these issues. But you could also find ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 11:46 AM
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“Women” or “girls” or “these people” or any non-inflammatory noun to refer to adult human females.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 07:28 PM
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These men are not looking for a “conversation,” otherwise they’d talk to men and elderly women. They’re looking to have sex and they come up to us with “hey (insert adjective here)” or “nice (insert secondary sex characteristic here)”. It’s disgusting and objectifying and if me hating that and ignoring them makes me antisocial, then fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 07:26 PM
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This is your equality What is equal about only women bearing the brunt of public harassment and threats from men? Men don’t have to deal with this, wtf are you talking about? Women wanted to fuck who they want, where and when they want. This wasn’t a tenet of feminism, last time I checked. The inverse of this is what women fought for, that we shouldn’t be forced to sleep with or marry men for financial stability or social approval. Some liberal feminists think women should adopt male sexual beha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 07:24 PM
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It’s been quite helpful for me thus far; I have no new stalkers to show for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 06:53 PM
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On the other hand, most men I know wouldn’t mind dating a bisexual woman, and even a lesbian given the chance. This doesn’t make any sense. Lesbians aren’t attracted to men, this coupling is impossible. Why do some men think lesbians are performing for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 08:31 AM
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My periods also only occasionally synced with my roommates fwiw.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 08:25 AM
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Maybe you forget how many of us have experiences with abusive men who didn’t take no for an answer? I’ve been stalked for three years by a guy I nicely told I wasn’t interested in. I talked to him to be nice because we had a similar interest and he wasn’t flirting with me at the time. Only after did he start spamming me with texts, dick pics, social media requests, etc. I just avoid stranger men nowadays, it’s not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 07:50 AM
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Not wanting to be propositioned by strangers is not anti-social behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 07:40 AM
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You don’t see any increased threat to that woman after a guy gets angry enough to rant on social media after she rejects him? We all know what unhinged men are capable of.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 07:27 AM
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these whores What is wrong with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 07:13 AM
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I don’t hate them. I am annoyed that they think the only way to get a man is to debase themselves or put down other women. If anything, I feel bad for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 08:53 PM
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Can you read? It’s obviously a yes. It wasn’t “a” bad experience. There were 3 people I practiced it with and it was ridiculous every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 08:52 PM
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That Reddit post is a summary of an hourlong podcast, not idle speculation. You can go listen to the interview (https://realitysteve.com/2020/10/29/podcast-206-interview-with-yosef-aboradys-ex-carly-hammond/) if you want but I doubt you want to. As for “prosecution” records, that woman didn’t go to the police, wtf? Sending unsolicited dick pics isn’t even illegal in most states. And I was mistaken on the restraining order point, I thought I had read that somewhere but I can’t find it.
/r/MGTOW222/03/21 08:51 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/thebachelor/comments/jkgvew/rss_podcast_interviewing_the_woman_from_tiktok/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/MGTOW222/03/21 08:03 PM
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Yosef was exposed for sending unsolicited dick pics to young women over Snapchat before going on this show. His ex-wife has a restraining order against him. Clare, the bachelorette, does not control the dates the guys go on, the producers do. Yosef is not an upstanding guy, and he definitely doesn’t care about being a good example for his daughter, considering he lost it on national TV and was harassing young women with pictures of his penis.
/r/MGTOW222/03/21 06:55 PM
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These aren’t large groups of women. They’re a minority with insecure attachment styles who never learned to have healthy relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 06:45 PM
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Lol. You lot think not shedding a tear after your mom dies is StOiCiSm. It’s either repressed emotion or sociopathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 06:44 PM
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I didn’t know how sad and lonely some men are, so I have some empathy for them. But I also didn’t know how evil and misogynistic some men are, so I hate them even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 02:07 PM
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The person you’re responding to didn’t say men had to have something going for them in terms of status or entertainment. I’m assuming they meant those men didn’t have a reason to pull women into relationships with them, like being interesting, nurturing, respectful, kind, etc. They can’t just be good partners No this is the point. They aren’t good partners; they don’t have that going for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 01:10 PM
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(I’m not one of those women) but I assume it’s because prostitution carries inherent physical and sexual risks that virtual or non-interactive sex work does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 01:06 PM
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You’re a joke. Because I make fun of some nonces on the Internet, that means I’m a misogynist? I guess words mean anything nowadays...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 01:05 PM
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“Cool girl” was a term from Gone Girl, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 01:03 PM
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Do you even know anything about BDSM? Yes, I read about kink, how to do it “ethically” and I used to partake. It was total brainwashing now that I’m on the other side of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 01:02 PM
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And those men get something in return for that. Whether it’s a companion, or the mother of their kids, or someone who cooks and cleans, that’s a reciprocal relationship. You become a male pick-me when your gf is taking advantage of you, treating you like crap, or cheating on you and you’re still doing all those things for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 01:01 PM
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Women aren’t shaming stoicism. They’re shaming the suppression of perfectly healthy emotions. And all these men think they’re stoic when they’re just bottling all negative feelings up until they explode in a destructive way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 12:49 PM
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They’re not low-value people, they’re low-value relationship partners. I, too, believe that everyone has intrinsic value.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 12:48 PM
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Nah, FDS doesn’t hate women. It’s constantly trying to uplift those women who find themselves in negative relationships, but they need to have self-awareness first or they can’t be helped.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 12:47 PM
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Those women are self-righteous in the face of that man’s tweet because they were proven right in their eyes, that men don’t actually like pickmes. But you’re right, some of those tweets are seeking male validation, there is an irony to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 12:46 PM
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I hate to be the “it’s so hard to generalize” person but it really is. If you put me in a room with 19 other random women, we’d all have different “mating strategies.” I know some women like the ones you describe, and I know a lot that aren’t like that. Personally, I’m not in that category and I wouldn’t sleep with some random asshole just because he was hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 12:41 PM
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In my opinion, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 10:53 PM
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A cool girl is always a pick-me but a pick-me isn’t always a cool girl. A cool girl may play video games for male attention (pick-me behavior). A pick-me may cook and clean whenever her partner desires (not cool girl behavior).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 10:48 PM
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It’s because too often it isn’t true. We all know women who complain about how they are overextended and unappreciated in their relationships but brag about how much they love their boyfriend on the yearly Valentine’s Day post on Instagram. I agree that some women really are brimming with love for their husbands but in social media, those posts are used to put down other women (i.e. “look what I’m doing for him, I’m such a good wifey, you girls could never” or “see how much my husband loves me? …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 05:14 PM
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Give me an example of this raw masculinity you think women are shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 01:14 PM
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Funny because they say men who act like that are male pickmeishas, and thus, LV.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 01:04 PM
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That’s not what a pickmeisha is. If you genuinely enjoy certain things and want to do them, then you’re not debasing yourself just for male approval or validation. But if you’re doing them while putting other women down to keep a man, you get the title pickmeisha.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 01:00 PM
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FDS has said explicitly that whether someone is HVM is specific to the individual. It’s not about objective or widely attractive traits, it’s about what you want. There are some baseline qualities that make a man HVM: loyalty, respect, reliability, etc. but they fully admit that what works for one woman does not work for all. And a man’s value is not calculated by your personal preferences. If you want someone who works with animals, it doesn’t mean men who don’t are instantly LV.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 12:59 PM
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FDS strongly advises to not have sex unless you’re in a relationship. They say if you can’t do that, then get a FWB, but that’s really an option of last resort if you’re too horny. So they don’t think women should rack up high body counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 12:52 PM
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So if it doesn’t work out for FDSers, isn’t it their problem? Why does that annoy you guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 12:41 PM
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I don’t know anyone who thinks like this. I use Instagram to look at cute babies and send memes to my friends
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 06:15 AM
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You can have duty and obligation to your family without having children of your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 09:39 AM
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If he’s hot, it’s happening but he can’t be too dumb or aggressive though. I actually prefer all my partners intelligent, whether for casual sex or relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 08:56 PM
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Okay? In today’s edition of “unless you’re suffering at a level 10, nothing you experience sucks,” we have “loneliness for almost a year is incomparable to loneliness of a decade.” And also, most men (and women) are not isolated for years at a time. Almost everyone has a family OR friends OR a partner OR colleagues OR classmates. A small minority of people have no meaningful connections.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 06:41 PM
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That’s an interesting note about him. Jim Caviezel is also very religious so we wouldn’t be compatible there but he’s nice to look at. I like the top 2/3 of Lou Diamond Phillip’s face but his jaw is unbalanced somehow. I like Polynesian and other Pacific Islander men although some are quite fat nowadays. I like all men, I just like them to have specific features.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 05:52 PM
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I disagree but if you’ve found in your experience it works for you, then who am I to argue with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 05:46 PM
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Dude then just ask for what you want. There are women out there that will be happy to oblige.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 04:59 PM
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Adam Beach, Daniel Dae Kim, Tom Selleck, Kim Brunhuber, this specific picture of Jim Caviezel
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 04:58 PM
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I’m 5’8”, so I’d prefer my partner to be taller than me. Hair color-any, I like all noses except pug noses, eye color-any. What I really like are prominent cheekbones and jaws and big eyes that are not close-set. Stereotypical Native American and Central Asian guys fit that bill but some white and black guys do too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 04:49 PM
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You don’t know that. Methinks you just want the sex. Which is fine, but don’t say you hook up for non-sexual intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 04:44 PM
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Russian does for me :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 04:26 PM
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But that isn’t the point. Beauty is determined by the harmony of your features, not whether you have a standout one. That’s why men like him get bumped down into unconventionally attractive territory. It doesn’t mean he isn’t good looking, he just doesn’t fit the classic standards of male beauty (because of his recessed cheekbones which causes his bug eyes). And just personally, when I’m talking about beauty or attractiveness, I’m exclusively talking about faces. For me, anyone can get a good bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 04:22 PM
1

One attractive feature does not a conventionally attractive person make.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 04:15 PM
3

I usually do that when the guy sucks at eating out. “Oh please I need you inside me now” is me acting out my inner porn star as to not hurt his fragile feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 04:10 PM
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I did have one once. And when we were like 18/19, a different male friend of mine would platonically cuddle with a female friend of mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 03:41 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romantic_friendship
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 03:36 PM
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Why don’t you just ask those women to cuddle, kiss, hold hands, etc. and not have sex if you primarily want the affection?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 03:35 PM
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I haven’t seen my friends since last summer, I know what loneliness is okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 03:29 PM
2

Right? I would give a limb to have their bone structure 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 05:05 PM
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Multiple reasons among us: too busy, recovering from trauma, tired of dating, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 03:46 PM
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So if you have interest in solo sexual activity and you get turned on frequently, you’d still be classified as LL, just because you don’t want partnered sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 03:44 PM
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Having sex once a year is NOT normal (especially in a relationship)... This isn’t a personal dig, I just know it isn’t. You should see a doctor about low libido if you know you’re not asexual. It is the topic because you stated the above, equating not having sex with low libido. You can (and many women do) masturbate and don’t have sex and that doesn’t make them low libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 02:05 PM
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I perceive a difference between hotness/sex appeal and beauty. But I’m not a guy so that could be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 02:01 PM
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Sara Sampaio https://www.google.com/search?q=sara+sampaio&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS642US642&hl=en-US&prmd=inv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjEtLyg_rnvAhVDhuAKHYVKAI0Q_AUoAXoECAIQAQ&biw=375&bih=640 Tina Kunakey https://www.google.com/search?q=tina+kunakey&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS642US642&hl=en-US&prmd=inv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiYgcq-_rnvAhVhh-AKHci2CzYQ_AUoAXoECAQQAQ&biw=375&bih=640&dpr=3 Edita Vilkeviciute https://www.google.com/search?q=edita+vilkeviciute&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwidzbys_rnvAhUL…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 01:56 PM
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Are you looking at their faces or bodies? Those girls are all really plain or even unattractive to me personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 01:27 PM
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I know women (myself included) that haven’t had sex in 6+ months - 3 years. We’re not LL, it’s called masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 01:19 PM
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How would you know they have high body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 12:59 PM
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Just speaking from experience, the times when I’ve wanted to flake on a date were influenced by my own tiredness that day or lack of excitement for a date than by me having more options. I still forced myself to go though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 12:18 PM
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Who knows! I agree with you there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 06:53 AM
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I know? And that, among other things, is why I have opted out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 06:51 AM
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N-count is commonly understood to be how many people you slept with, I didn’t make the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 06:51 AM
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What? Ambivalent women (and for that matter, women AND men in general) go to frat parties for the free alcohol, drugs, and music. It’s a social event, not a brothel. No woman is surprised if she gets hit on, but when a guy ignores her “no’s” and tries to coerce or force her into sex, that’s when it’s unacceptable. I repeat my question: why would any man want to have sex with a woman who didn’t want to be there and wasn’t enjoying herself?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 06:50 AM
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Hiding from stalkers
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 09:26 AM
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Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 01:34 AM
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Why is >5’9” undesirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 12:13 PM
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Oh? I didn’t know this. Some guys have even done it on their own. I think I’ve dated other mentally ill weirdos.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 02:41 PM
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Did she hide it, did she change on her own, or did something cause the change?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 11:59 AM
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Why is that crazy? No one has ever commented on it. If anything, I think some of them have even done it without asking. ETA: also I don’t have sex anymore anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 11:14 AM
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I mean...I guess you could look at it that way? To each their own really. But it doesn’t seem like most people would have that collection of sexual behaviors. If they were ready to do all of those other things with many people, they would probably just go all the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 09:49 AM
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Ahhhh yeah I’ll probably never have low enough anxiety for that. I hope it works out for everyone else though
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 09:40 AM
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handjobs, bj’s, eating out, fingering, anal What? With the exception of anal, why should any of those things be counted in n-count?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 09:34 AM
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Why do you want to have sex with an ambivalent woman? Like that doesn’t bother you at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 09:32 AM
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it’s not like “I will hate doing this” or “I really don’t want to do this” Yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 09:31 AM
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rather finish inside than pull out Do you know if this is common? I’ve never let a guy finish inside me, even with a condom 😳
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 09:25 AM
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Don’t you also use condoms for STD prevention?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 09:23 AM
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Yeah but...I wouldn’t know I’m lumping them. Like if it feels fine, it feels fine. I never think about actual measurements.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 02:32 PM
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casually calls the cops
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 12:40 PM
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I srsly couldn’t tell you the difference between a 5/6 or 7/8. I think I could maybe tell the difference between a 6 and a 7. And forget about girth; I have no idea what those measurements are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 08:56 AM
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Okay sir, I asked for ideal OR typical. Meaning, what would you like a first date to be like, or what have they been for you in the past? I just wanted to get a glimpse of what people’s ideas were about dates. You read so much into what I wrote...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 10:17 AM
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I was just thinking the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 10:08 AM
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Okay okay I see. I agree with those.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 10:05 AM
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It’s not an entire gender. BOTH genders, under about 25 are TOO YOUNG to be dating people outside of a 2-3 year age difference from them. Just my opinion. Once the frontal lobe is fully formed, have at it old people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:53 AM
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You’re no Joe Clark...but putting that aside, you didn’t answer her question. Just because someone isn’t assaulting you right then and there doesn’t mean they won’t in the future. I knew a boy since I was 11 years old who ended up assaulting me when I was 17. What say you to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:47 AM
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Women value looks first when left to their own devices. If this were true the world would be full of good looking men. But alas, ‘tis not the case. Just because we want something doesn’t mean we can will it into existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:08 AM
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average guys do okay when they meet women “organically” but fail at OLD Yes yes yes! It seems like people forgot the default way for human beings to meet each other isn’t OLD. Most of the dating analysis on this sub only applies in an OLD context, which is so unnatural. IMO, you can’t really glean human behavior accurately from how they act on a dating app, which is a highly artificial setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:04 AM
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I don’t think girls are socially stunted in romantic contexts, I think they’re stunted in platonic contexts. As a girl, talking to other girls is like pulling teeth and I’m already on the spectrum :/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:00 AM
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Can someone please link pics of examples? I’ve been wondering this forever...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:57 AM
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What? No I’ve never tried to parlay a FWB into a relationship. Idk if you’ve seen my other comments around this sub but I’m really anti-relationship; I like being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 06:39 AM
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What stories lmao? Why would I talk about previous sexual experiences? And I’ve never been fuckzoned, only broken up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 04:07 AM
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Nice story, but I’ve never divulged my sexual history to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 03:03 AM
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I’ve never met one IRL who cared and I’ve also never met one who tried to manipulate me into telling him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 07:25 AM
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Why should you have to negotiate with your husband to get him to take an interest in his kids? What good is providing only monetarily if you never spend any time with your kids? Why have kids if you don’t even like them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 11:57 PM
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No, why would it be? That’s a completely useless analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 11:54 PM
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I’ve never had a guy balk at the bill either. And I’ve usually gone on dinner dates as first dates, not drinks or coffee.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 11:08 PM
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Why is that mind blowing? What works for some doesn’t work for others. Isn’t this what all the women in this sub have been saying forever? That money isn’t as important as you guys think.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 11:03 PM
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Oh wow I want that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 10:36 PM
2

What does Dink mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 10:34 PM
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First off, the scenario the other commenter constructed implied that there was an existing relationship but the man wanted to find out more about his partner to potentially further the relationship. Second, it’s not lying, it’s fighting fire with fire. If a man is going to manipulate me (“get them drunk”) and “feign being non-judgmental” then I’m not going to fall into the trap. It’s all moot anyway because I wouldn’t want to be with a guy who acts like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 01:53 PM
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It’s not to get a man into sex and it isn’t lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 01:34 PM
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Shouldn’t you guys keep your tactics a secret? Every time I read one of them I just prepare a suitable reaction for one of those hypothetical situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 01:06 PM
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Half care, half don’t. But even the ones that do usually suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 12:56 PM
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What man would say “I envision going to work all day, coming home, eating dinner, and going to sleep”? Probably very few, but the reality is many are like that. I don’t even think they’re all purposefully deceiving their wives; I just think they can’t foresee the challenges of parenting and don’t try hard enough when they’re faced with the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 12:36 PM
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It’s not that nobody cares; it’s that they’re doing a bait and switch. They bring up their loneliness, which most people are receptive to talking about, but then they ask you out when you’ve given no indication you were interested. Now you’re in an awkward position and you feel like they just roped you in to make a move. I actually have no problem talking to guys about their mental health issues, social isolation, family/friend problems, etc. but if they use it as a pretext to ask me out, it mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 12:27 PM
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Obviously people should vet better, you’ll get no argument from me there. But this type of problem arises because women don’t even know they had to vet for it. Like it’s assumed that a dad would want to take an interest in his kid’s life. I could almost understand a dad not wanting to do the cooking and cleaning but not even wanting to play with or talk to their kid? That’s something pretty unfathomable to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 12:23 PM
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Listen, loneliness sucks, but don’t be naive here. You want to be with someone you like, you don’t want a psycho following you around. And IMO, strong platonic connections (family and friends) are more fulfilling than romantic ones will ever be. I understand if you don’t have those either though, that would be a really tough situation. I’ve been completely single for 3 years and it is really preferable to the alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 12:18 PM
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Because most of the time you guys are attention seekers. We’re wary of men saying they’re lonely without having ulterior motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 11:34 AM
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Maybe the weed zapped his brain power?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 11:24 AM
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Tbh I think a lot of women are afraid of being judged by other women, or just being wrong, or being perceived as aggressive in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 11:21 AM
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Dude I promise you you would not. I’ve had a stalker for years at this point and I feel anxious all the time. Harassment is not desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 10:23 AM
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Deadbeat dads don’t always reveal themselves pre-kid. For that matter, there are deadbeat dads who still live in the household. If all you do is provide money for your kid but don’t play with them, talk about life, cook for them, give them baths, or know their friends, then how are you that different from a sperm donor?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 10:13 AM
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Tbh a lot of women are not even attracted to desperate men, so that problem wouldn’t even be one we would run into. But yeah I think those people are displaying red flags for themselves and for their potential partners and they should be stayed away from. I don’t think “anything goes” is any way to conduct one’s life, in sex, in business, in family. People should abide by some principles to minimize potential suffering they inflict on others. It’s more considerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 10:08 AM
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Her husband sexually abused their children; she was punished by Mennonite church for not forgiving him Investigation Into Child Sex Abuse In Amish Communities: MARTIN: As we mentioned, you uncovered 52 cases of sexual abuse across seven states. And by that, I assume you mean that these were cases that were actually prosecuted - would that be correct? - or that they were verified by some sort of process of accountability. Would that be accurate? MCCLURE: Absolutely. All of those 52 cases were cha…
/r/MGTOW207/03/21 10:00 AM
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Oh great, you’re bringing kids into the world. What could go wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 09:44 PM
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I didn’t say anyone had sex to be a good person. But I did say that there are ways of having sex that make you a bad person. Using someone’s mental instability to your advantage is one of them. My personal opinion is that if someone is acting very desperate, they should be avoided.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 12:28 PM
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Guys mock simps more than girls. I agree no one should be mocked though. Everyone should try to transcend from living their lives for other people (parents, teachers, bosses, romantic prospects, religious institutions, etc.) and they wouldn’t constantly be seeking validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 12:24 PM
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Bullshit spewing aside, you assume that all of these men were unwilling fathers. I had a friend in middle school whose dad just fucked off when she was 2 and her sister was just born, moved like an hour away, got a new girlfriend and paid child support only when he wanted to. It wasn’t an unplanned pregnancy! What the fuck is wrong with someone who does that? Why is it the mother’s fault when the father ups and leaves? If a woman gets an abortion, then there are no future problems for the woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 12:01 PM
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You don't have a kid only after it's born. Yes you do? Are you some kind of religious person? If you're filling out a form and it asks you if you're a mother, you don't click yes because you have a 3 day old zygote in your womb. The mother has a kid in her body, and she pays for it by supporting it 9 months in her womb and then 18 years in her house. Why? I still don't get this. You just abort it so you don't have to deal with any of that. Not deliberately murdering an innocent group What group?…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 09:52 AM
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I'd be hard pressed to find anyone like that. Even the people I know with low-n counts had basically the same lifestyle as I used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 09:45 AM
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Perhaps I live in a bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 09:25 AM
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That still doesn’t make any sense. Women don’t have to sacrifice anything for their kids if they don’t have kids (abortion)...but if you do have a kid, then you have to sacrifice (i.e. pay for the kid). I don’t get how being forced to have a kid is a sacrifice for society...how does that promote the general welfare?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 09:24 AM
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What the fuck? That’s not any definition I’ve ever heard of for foreplay. Let me write what I and most of the people I know experience and you tell me where your disagreements are: Feminism doesn’t teach men not to entice women. Unless by entice you mean, start touching people who you don’t know, in which case that’s so fucking creepy and weird please don’t do that. The way it goes (in a super hypothetical encounter) is a woman sees a guy she likes, they somehow start talking, and throughout the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 09:14 AM
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Maybe statistically, but it seems standards are changing for my generation. I wouldn’t bat an eye at someone who had anything under 15.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 09:04 AM
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Then forcing people to pay rent, mortgage, utilities, taxes, or any other expenditure is a violation of bodily autonomy. Totally absurd reasoning. Almost everyone has a job so if you think that being forced to be a laborer is a violation of bodily autonomy, then I guess everyone is being exploited.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 07:28 AM
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What? I’m confused now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 06:35 AM
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I know what you’re saying but this is not an argument people are having. You constructed a comparison between abortion and child support that doesn’t exist. Just say you don’t want men to pay child support if that’s your position but don’t equate it to a violation of bodily autonomy. You haven’t proven child support is a breach of those principles, you just want it to be. That’s circular reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 06:10 AM
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I guess I just take issue with the use of the word sacrifice. 9 months is comprised of illness and the possibility of death, which is probably the most severe thing you can go through, for what? Like literally no reason to do that. Whereas, if you already have a kid, a few hundred dollars a month to keep them alive is necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 05:06 AM
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This again? U.S. Census Figures from 2015: $33.7 billion dollars in child support was owed during the year 2015 The average amount of child support due was $5,760 per year. That's less than $500 per month. Only 60% of that money—an average of $3,447 per year—was actually received On average, custodial single parents who receive child support get about $287 per month to help with food, shelter, clothing, medical costs, education, and incidentals. Many men are already delinquent on child support. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 04:49 AM
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I simply disagree with you. I didn’t think I needed to respond point by point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 04:41 AM
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I just threw out “every week”. But someone who has a lifetime n count of 12-14 is not considered high-n to me. If they have 12 every year, that’s a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 04:40 AM
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I see it. The men who the internet calls whipped or simps are often times famous, rich, attractive men like Russell Wilson or Prince Harry or Patrick Mahomes. Chad can be simps too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 04:38 AM
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I agree. I didn’t have the ability to be assertive in the past. I haven’t dated in years but if I ever start again, I’m sure it’ll be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 04:36 AM
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Uh...I don’t think so. Foreplay is still a necessity even if I’m turned on. It doesn’t mean I’m ready to jump to penetrative sex, just that I’m ready to begin sexual things in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 04:36 AM
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Male and female STEM majors. That’s kind of why I wrote the post. I assumed people didn’t mean physics majors when they said “intelligence.”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 04:34 AM
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I know lol. But that’s why I just exited the game. They disgust me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 04:32 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=42&v=9xAjUzwwtCs&feature=emb_title
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 10:25 PM
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This doesn’t track. I don’t need to be touched to be aroused. If I’m attracted to a guy I’ll have internal cues.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 10:22 PM
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They keep asking and trying to convince even after I’ve said I didn’t want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 10:11 PM
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So many women have gone through this and sadly there isn’t a shortage of men willing to go along for our self-harm journey.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 09:53 PM
1

This is all so spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 09:52 PM
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Most men are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 09:47 PM
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So we’ve gone from a woman who is promiscuous due to deep lying psychopathology to one that is throwing herself all over you. They’re the same person. And do what you want. I obviously can’t stop you. But don’t be surprised that women’s opinion of men is getting worse by the year.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 09:40 PM
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First off, whoever is causing the problem early in life is different than who might not choose to get into a relationship with him later in life. Second, it usually doesn’t include mocking; it’s just a rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 09:14 PM
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So you’re happy to reap the benefits in the meantime?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 09:10 PM
1

I actually agree with your assessment of LibFems. Some are okay but the real believers are insufferable. And I actually put effort into my appearance when not depressed, but I never wore makeup even pre-trauma so that hasn’t changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 09:05 PM
1

And what do you think about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 09:01 PM
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I’ve never met one yet. People who enjoy having sex usually get a FWB, not a random new guy every week.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 08:59 PM
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If a girl is throwing herself at you and acting really desperate, either she’s inebriated or there’s something wrong with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 08:57 PM
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Exploit someone’s delicate mental health. Do you people forget about being a good person? Like as long as something isn’t illegal or breach of contract terms you think it’s alright?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 08:56 PM
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They’re simps bc they have no confidence for multiple reasons and then think that’s the way to get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 08:54 PM
1

A new partner every month.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 08:53 PM
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It’s not a choice to treat anyone like shit. It’s just a reality that in the dating market, lack of confidence and low self-esteem is not attractive. Men do this to women too. You all say you want a fun, “pleasant” woman who isn’t sad and mopey or high-strung or jealous so you’re excluding the depressive types too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 08:51 PM
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What I’m telling you is that you usually don’t know (as a man) that the woman you’re sleeping with has issues. Lib feminism is an attractive ideology to those who see having sex as a salve for their problems. And considering it’s everywhere, they end up thinking “well these women seem happy doing it, I should give it a go.” I doubt a woman is going to start unloading her problems onto you before jumping in the sack.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 08:49 PM
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Oh I’ve never seen that before. That’s quite strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 08:46 PM
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If you were ever put in this situation, the honorable thing to do would be to say “thanks but no thanks.” It’s funny because I had a guy do this to me when I was throwing myself at him and we’re still friends 4 years later. There are men who don’t suck but unfortunately they’re such a slim minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:54 PM
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How is that funny or admirable? What the fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:17 PM
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Ideas I read that I agree with. Backlash against libfeminism. Sexual assaults.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:13 PM
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Haha so funny. Taking the chance to exploit a vulnerable young woman so you can get your rocks off. Why suggest that someone like that should maybe get help when you could just use them for sex? Why let a good slut go to waste right? I love how men just admit how depraved they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:09 PM
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Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 11:03 AM
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Most women don’t consider them the most desirable. They may be the best looking but again, the majority of women who aren’t psychologically damaged are not looking for guys like that. You would probably call them Chads. For example, professional athletes presumably have high n-counts but they are horrible relationship partners. Domestic violence and cheating are rampant in those relationships. The women they end up with are like them in terms of undesirable personalities (social climbers, celebr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 11:00 AM
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Wow incredible. That’s really interesting you say that because I would trade in my actual rape experience for a false accusation in a millisecond. “Greater crime” lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 10:44 AM
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What about MeToo are you critical of?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 10:42 AM
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Was it a false rape accusation or a witness misidentification?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 10:41 AM
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Buddy the point is you end up getting cases where “not enough evidence” is treated as a false accusation. That’s extremely dangerous for victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 10:40 AM
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They’re all like that. I remember getting in a long argument with one of them where he kept telling me that my rape wasn’t a rape because coercion isn’t rape. Like lol ok buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 10:39 AM
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No. It’s not a normal behavior for either gender to have extreme amounts of partners. I would argue it’s the same for men. Men who have high amounts of partners usually have dark triad traits, low self esteem that they fill with female validation, childhood sexual trauma, or some sort of sex addiction. And men don’t “go gay.” Women don’t either. People are mostly born with their sexuality or at least develop it quite early in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 10:34 AM
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Men and women’s brains do work differently but in dating, the same behaviors are seen over and over again by both genders. Why is it that you have women staying in abusive relationships and men staying in relationships where their wives don’t love them? Why is it that so many women are pickmes and so many men are willing to spend oodles of cash on a mate? These people fundamentally don’t love themselves and don’t think anyone truly loves them either. Although the behaviors appear different, they…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 08:19 AM
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I would argue that they do; the group im referring to has two subgroups: The ones who feel ugly and/or unloveable. These women are validated in their beauty by good looking guys showing them attention and sleeping with them but really any guy thinking they’re worthy is enough. The ones with trauma. These women will fuck any man because of the desire to feel loved or in control or to take back ownership of their sexuality. Some use it as a form of self-harm or trauma reenactment. I gather you guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 08:16 AM
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Wat?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 06:47 AM
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Oo so what do you think they look like? I consider myself mostly radfem so I’d love to hear your thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 06:47 AM
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Lol what a joke. The charge for filing a false police report is...filing a false police report. The punishment is one for that low level charge. If your fantasy actually was enacted, it would lead to more of these: https://www.propublica.org/article/false-rape-accusations-an-unbelievable-story
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 06:21 AM
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But they don’t have a particular look to them do they? And what living style does radfeminism suit in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 06:07 AM
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50 shades? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 06:05 AM
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One of the biggest problems with these attempts to delineate dating behavior by gender is that most behaviors are practiced by both genders. The real dividing line is self-esteem/self-confidence. Men AND women will overextend, debase themselves, and accept subpar treatment in relationships if they think this is the best they can get. It’s the same with sexual relationships. Women who are sleeping around aren’t usually doing it because they’re just horny or love Chad’s attention or whatever. Most…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 06:01 AM
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There’s a body type associated with feminists now? And here I was thinking it was just an ideology...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 05:38 AM
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These men don’t exist in large amounts. And no it isn’t Chad, it isn’t the nice guy “orbiter” that you people think all women have. It’s neither of these groups that most women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 05:35 AM
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This. So many extremely good looking frat boy/male model types seem incredibly dull and unappealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 04:30 AM
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Thanks for reading something I never said into my statement. And it’s laughable you think there’s a societal expectation for men to be perfect at sex when not only can men make zero effort to make a woman cum, but there are millions of women who don’t even question that fact and will return to have sex with those men. Women actually have no expectations in this department. Just scroll advice columns or relationship subs to see what I’m talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 11:11 PM
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Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 03:16 PM
2

What does a playful attitude have to do with intelligence?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 02:05 PM
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Rihanna doesn’t look anything like me but I think she’s prettier than me. Laura Harrier is prettier than me too but I look like her. Idk dude can’t explain it but I’m pretty solidly a 7. Just think if her features were ~20% less perfect. If she’s a 9, that would make me a 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 01:43 PM
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Oh? Haha I really think that’s the number though. There’s an actress I’ve been told I look like but for the life of me I can’t remember her name. The closest approximation I can give is a less pretty Laura Harrier.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 01:24 PM
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I think I’m a 7/10. I have no way of verifying it though, just going off what other people have said.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 01:11 PM
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Uh...like a 22yo woman? What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 12:58 PM
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Yeah I did. Have you looked at university professors lately? Most of them are geriatric with odd grooming habits and unfortunate features. But the ability to explain themselves and get really passionate about their chosen field is attractive to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 12:56 PM
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I’m sorry, I’m extremely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 12:54 PM
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My friends and I are frequently attracted to professors or experts in some field fwiw. I know that’s an aNeCdOtE though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 12:49 PM
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So do you think those groups want those things in their partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 12:47 PM
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Lol. Yeah but there’s also significant overlap for that trait with the anxious/depressed community, of which I assume many members here are a part.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 12:46 PM
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What types of topics do you consider intellectual?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 12:45 PM
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Wat
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 11:49 AM
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Not shocked, but those aren’t the only things lol. I took issue with the other commenter acting as if only women have long lists. People have long lists for things they want and then when they realize they can’t get everything, they delete things off the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 09:45 AM
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Everyone has wishlists about everything. It’s not gender specific. The men come on here with a list a mile long of requirements for women (low n, hot, thin, hairless, doesn’t nag, high sex drive, isn’t materialistic, wants to stay home and take care of the kids, not a feminist, “pleasant”, feminine, will submit to depraved sexual acts, no guy friends, no short hair, no tattoos, no weirdly colored hair, big tits, no career women, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 09:16 AM
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What? If I wanted a guy to entertain me, I’d date a musician or a comedian. But I’m seriously asking, what do people typically talk about in relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 09:07 AM
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What kinds of things does one talk about with their partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 08:59 AM
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So neither group enjoys intellectual conversation with their partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 08:57 AM
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Ugh same re: writing. Completely brain dead over here when it comes to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 07:34 AM
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What things would you do if you were smarter?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 07:11 AM
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Do you think only intelligent people want intelligent people?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 07:10 AM
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Can you clarify with specific traits or example behaviors you would characterize as intelligent?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 07:08 AM
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The reason for it is him being tactless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:52 AM
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Okeydokey.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:47 AM
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I mean I guess you could have discussions about things?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:46 AM
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I love being taught new things by my partner!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:43 AM
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Yes I agree. Too many people have headline knowledge on these topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:42 AM
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She can’t turn herself on if she’s not turned on. Could you turn yourself on? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:41 AM
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Being versed in current events is very important.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:39 AM
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Wut. When did anyone, here or in the post, use criticism as a way to make someone want to have sex with them? When you criticized her for not being able to get over it. Lol if you want the actual reason, it's that I've learned to deal with shit tests from women What? A shit test from a woman is telling you your dick is smelly? That’s a new one for me. the majority of women deeply enjoy (and usually prefer) vaginal sex even if they don't orgasm from it. Lol omg. Why do men keep saying this? It is…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:38 AM
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Okay, so you want someone dumb?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:31 AM
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Dude if someone lost the lust, it’s not unreasonable, it’s just the way it is. I think they should divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:29 AM
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Can you just answer what you mean by intelligence lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:27 AM
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Like if you were put in a high pressure situation? Give me an example please.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:26 AM
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It’s not emotional regulation to just say “well I’m deciding to not feel this way anymore.” That’s being a robot. If everyone could do, why would anyone waste time feeling pesky emotions like grief or sadness? You’re being ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:26 AM
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You think having a dad who thinks lowly of her is positively or negatively affecting her life? If I knew my parents thought I was a piece of shit and didn’t like me, I’d have more than a few issues.
/r/MGTOW204/03/21 05:54 AM
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That sounds sociopathic. Flipping emotions on and off like a switch? I don’t know anyone who can do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 05:52 AM
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She’s not devastated, she just doesn’t wanna fuck him. He’s actually making it worse by continuing to bring up how sorry he is. It comes across extremely inauthentic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 05:52 AM
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Whether she has agency is a complete non sequitur. You can’t just decide to get over things. Just like you can’t just decide to like a certain food or fall in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 05:50 AM
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What? I want a tall daughter too. And I literally said if I found all the right qualities in a guy but he was short, I’d pick him. However if all those same qualities were in a tall guy, I’d pick him over the other one. And no you can always work out and eat less. Losing weight isn’t that hard, people just don’t want to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 05:48 AM
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Mental illness is feeling turned off when your husband says you have a smelly vagina. Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 05:44 AM
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You can totally take this approach, but criticizing people for being offended that you criticized their main sex organ isn’t a way to make those people want to have sex with you. Maybe this is because men literally have no shame when it comes to making women do things they don’t like, but I’m not surprised it doesn’t bother you if a girl thinks your dick smells weird. I’m sure men don’t give a fuck if the experience sucks for her. Bottom line is, if someone thinks your vagina is smelly, that mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 05:43 AM
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Like I said to the other respondent, she probably didn’t even smell. He admits he never got that close to a vagina before. So if she didn’t smell and therefore can’t was it off, it’s not something she can actually get over.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 05:37 AM
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The thing is...I doubt she even smelled. He admits he never got that close to a vagina before. So if she didn’t smell and therefore can’t wash it off, it’s not something she can actually get over.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 05:36 AM
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Well I’m 5’8” so unless I date a guy who is shorter than me, I’m naturally dating guys who are average male height or taller. And yes, in terms of long term partners, I want them to have every physical advantage (looks, height, intelligence). I just don’t see fat as a detractor, although I would prefer my partner wasn’t fat. Fat isn’t inherited the way the other things mostly are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 01:47 AM
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I know she caught him doing that. What I’m saying is that it sounds like he’s overcompensating or getting off to her being smelly like a fetish, in the same way a man might like smelly feet or scat play. And first off, I don’t like giving blowjobs to many guys because their dicks are gross. Dicks in general are pretty nasty. And no, if I think a guy is smelly or nasty, why the hell would I want to sleep with him? Also, she’s specifically saying she won’t let her husband eat her out, not that she…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 01:41 AM
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I would choose that guy over a tall guy without any of those things. Only if everything else was equal except for height would I choose the taller equivalent. But it appears to me that men are choosing ugly women just because they’re thin. Like what if you have kids with this person? They probably won’t be very good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 01:24 AM
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Personally I can tell an ugly woman even with makeup, maybe men can’t. But those women won’t always have makeup on. Whereas a fat woman with a beautiful face will always have a beautiful face. Yes, many fat people don’t lose enough weight but considering no one keeps their 20something body forever, and you’re mostly looking at people’s faces, isn’t it more important that they’re beautiful than ugly? I feel the same way about men too btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 12:49 AM
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She probably doesn’t believe that he’s changed his opinion and is just lying because he’s guilty he hurt her feelings. All he could’ve done is say let’s take a shower together and it would’ve been alright but he chose this route. ETA: if a guy is recoiling at the taste or smell of my vulva, and doesn’t eat me out because of it, that means he’s disgusted. idk why this is so difficult for you. I would not want that guy to then lie to make me feel better when the entire time I’d be sitting there th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 12:22 AM
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You’re talking about your own daughter like this online, and you don’t think she can sense those attitudes toward her in person? No wonder she’s hostile.
/r/MGTOW203/03/21 11:58 PM
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What if you don’t have online dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 11:47 PM
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You know how many women have miscarriages month 1 or 2 that think they had a period? The regular period blood clots are indistinguishable from those. So yeah, not babies. Being part of the legal system is not what I’m talking about. Being able to be part of the legal system is. And save it with the hUmAn shit. If you could only save a canister of you and your wife’s frozen embryos or your 6 month old child from a house fire, which would you pick? Anyone could grow up to be a menace but that risk…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 11:45 PM
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Modern television constantly has commercials for RePHresh, Vagisil, Summer’s Eve. Modern television shows men making jokes about vaginas smelling or tasting gross. Modern television advertises Brazilian waxes and tiny bikini bottoms that can’t be worn with a natural amount of pubic hair. Women are constantly told that there’s something wrong with the physical state of our vulvas.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 11:37 PM
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If someone says you smell, then what they’re feeling is disgust towards the thing that smells. If you smell rotting food, you are disgusted by the food. ETA: see my reply to the other guy below about media telling us our vulvas need fixing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 11:34 PM
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8 is far too big. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 11:32 PM
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Say us about what? I’ve been with big dicked men and average dicked men but that doesn’t change the fact I didn’t cum from penetration so it doesn’t matter. One time this guy was moving his dick in an interesting way that almost made me cum. He had an average dick though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 11:30 PM
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Suctioning out some jellybeans is not murder and the people who assert that are drama queens. If embryos/fetuses were people, they’d have social security numbers, the ability to get life insurance, etc. Stop being ridiculous. I don’t see how dumb idiots who don’t want kids having kids is a good thing for anyone. They’re going to undoubtedly be poorer, the kid will probably feel neglected and unloved, and the state in many cases will have to pick up the slack. Also, poor parenting can lead to per…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 11:19 PM
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Homosexual but heteromantic. eta: or bisexual (if he’s also into women)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 11:11 PM
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Overweight women are increasingly viable due to lower tier male thirst for attention. This view on fat women as being inferior or ugly has always confused me. Do men here think body or face is more important? If you’re fat and beautiful, you can lose weight more easily than a thin and ugly person can change their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 11:07 PM
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Abortion is good for society. Saves money, saves anguish on the part of the unwilling parents. I think lots more people should get abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 11:04 PM
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Women are so used to being shamed about our vaginas in the media and in real life that if the man who is supposed to love us tells us he’s disgusted by our primary sex organ, why would we ever want to have sex with him? This woman probably didn’t even smell but he said he never got that close to a vagina before. I don’t see an issue. Why would you want to have sex with someone who is disgusted by you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 10:51 PM
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How would receiving attention from random men on the street affect any woman’s pair bonding ability?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 10:30 PM
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So if you don’t have a problem with it, then do you consider it groping/assault? Do you wish it would happen less or more?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 11:54 AM
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What? This doesn’t even make any sense. Tons of women have no options. Ones who don’t know any single guys, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 10:48 AM
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Being showered with attention and free things is the perspective of no female I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 10:46 AM
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I’m a bit out of my depth here but hasn’t our genetic code not been that affected when it comes to fertility? Age of menses has always been stable over the generations. If anything it’s going DOWN, not up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 09:38 PM
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Yeah but people dying at young ages did so because of illnesses and injuries, not natural causes like cancer and heart disease. An infection from a rusty piece of metal would kill you or a bite from an animal might, but if you could avoid those kinds of things, then you’d make it lot farther. Without modern medicine, we’d be dying of illnesses like strep and UTIs and dehydration too. The increases in life expectancy from evolution are hard to tease out from the increases from modern medicine. Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 09:33 PM
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There is no politician in the U.S. who uses Marxist theory to GAIN votes. I wish more people in this godforsaken place weren’t so damn right wing but they are. Idk what you’re talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 09:18 PM
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All of them can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 08:44 PM
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Does that include 10 year olds girls that just started menstruating?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 10:44 AM
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Do you people all have depression? It’s literally mental illness brain to say “if I didn’t have x responsibility, I’d be lounging around in my own filth, becoming further nearsighted by staring at a computer screen all day.” I have depression and this is how I think, but when I’m not depressed, I want to cook and wash myself and learn new things for ME, not for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 06:31 PM
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Your comments are always elite.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 06:27 PM
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I love being single. I’ve been single for 3 years and it’s incredible. No one is there to mess up my routine, check in with me, monitor me, force me to leave my house, etc. Occasionally (like once a month), I want to have sex but other than that I’m fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 04:38 AM
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I think this advice varies by location and age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 01:40 AM
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Fiery, hot sexual relationships like this in youth are the only real relationships. No, everyone is just pumped up on hormones and ready to explore the world. The people who engage in these rarely have real connections, it’s just mindless fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 09:46 AM
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I knew a few girls in high school/college having sex with a bunch of older men due to past trauma. They got therapy though and they’re normal now. I have heard of some quote unquote party girls but they weren’t having sex, they would just flirt and make out with guys a lot. Seriously never met a “slut” the way it’s conceptualized here, IRL. I knew one person who cheated on his HS gf but he isn’t like that now. What I have met IRL is a lot of rape victims (2 male and >10 female). And before anyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 08:58 AM
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This is what’s happening. Women get fuck zoned because we estimate they have a high n count. Okay? You’re probably estimating wrong anyway but even if you aren’t, why is this a bad thing? A guy who wants to fuckzone me isn’t a guy I want to be with anyway. So her n count was 30 and his was 5. No, I knew enough about both of them to know they were both telling the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 11:53 AM
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Why do you guys always jump to this? Always drawing an equivalence between money and rape. None of you have ever been violated and it shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 11:44 AM
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Okay, then just find someone who meets those needs instead of trying to change someone into something they’re not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 11:30 AM
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Would you want someone to do that to you? Like hold you to doing things you did in the past that you didn’t like doing? It’s really messed up of a guy to do that. Also, this is why women should never divulge all these details about their sex lives. It’s a losing game.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 11:29 AM
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Lol solitude is the way to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 11:27 AM
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I wasn’t asking for stats, I was just asking for your pitch as to why I should want a husband. I just like being alone. I don’t want a boyfriend either. And I’m convinced I’m on the spectrum, I meet many of the criteria and I have a family history of autism so yeah lol definitely autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 11:26 AM
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Isn’t that rape That’s not what I mean. I’m saying if a guy suggests something and you just go along with it, like people-pleasing. But upon doing that, you find out it isn’t something you like to do, and don’t want to do it again. From a guy’s POV it’s very hurtful...but you’re not willing to understand my point I understand your point but I just don’t know what to say. There’s nothing that can be done about it. It’s an impasse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 11:21 AM
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Ugh again with this “deny” crap. Is everyone bound for life to repeat all the actions they did in their youth or just women when it comes to letting men use their bodies for sex? Holy shit if a woman tried and hated something in her past, why would her partner even want to subject her to it again? I would leave a guy immediately if he started requesting things I didn’t want to do. Also, who are these couples who share gory details of their past sex? How would some new guy even know what she did …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 11:18 AM
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Chore-type sex once in a week? No one said this. The choices aren’t between chore sex and wild kinky weird shit. All I’m saying is that many women who may have been pressured into doing extreme sex things in the past won’t want to do them in the future. Not that she doesn’t want to have sex at all. Do men really expect gross painful things like anal with any kind of regularity? Wtf If a man is getting offended and insulted by their partner not wanting to hurt herself with crazy sex acts, then th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 11:11 AM
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You’ll never find a hubby if you don’t leave the house :p I don’t want one. Why should I want one?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 11:07 AM
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What? Did you read anything I wrote? I listed multiple reasons a woman wouldn’t do those, and none of them was “because she doesn’t love her man.” You just...added that in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 10:58 AM
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Partygirl? Lol I barely leave the house to get groceries even before COVID. I know her but we’re not that close. And again, it’s not about the dick. Like you just meet a person you like and you want to be in a relationship with them. Not everything is about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 10:52 AM
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Women’s previous sexual partners do leave an imprint on them. Yeah an imprint like “wow that guy sucked in bed” or “his apartment was a mess” or “that was such a fun night.” It’s not an “imprint” because it’s not that deep. That’s exactly why most of these marriages end in divorce. Most people divorce because of an issue, not because they fell out of love. Ever heard the saying “sometimes love just ain’t enough”? If it wasn’t, why is it a frequent complaint that these women don’t do sexual favor…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 10:49 AM
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But a large majority do care. I don’t doubt that, but I’ve never met one IRL and none of my girl friends have either. And if we did meet one, they never revealed themselves. Someone I know is in a relationship with a guy who was her tenth and she was his tenth and they got matching number 10 tattoos. It’s just not an issue I’ve seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 10:41 AM
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Men do care about woman’s past, it’s just innate human nature. Just because you think something doesn’t make it true. Where is the evidence that it’s human nature? You can’t just say things and assert them as fact. Years of her sexual prime Prime? Women and men have sex until old age. Women aren’t show horses; stop with this nonsense. the guy she chooses to settle down with, will naturally feel like a second option she choose to fall back on He can’t be a second choice if she didn’t know he exis…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 10:33 AM
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She will never feel about him the way she felt about her previous sexual partners? Uh, yes she will. She will feel way more about a guy she loves and is in a relationship with than some rando she hooked up with. How can an average guy compare to the studs she took to her apartment every weekend? Again with the assumptions. First off, this guy could be a stud too. But even if he isn’t, women just don’t think like that. We don’t “look back fondly” like you guys do on past hookups; they barely cros…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 10:28 AM
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You can choose not to date whoever. I’m not advocating for men to date a certain type of woman or even women at all. I just take issue with the framing of it, as if women are losing something because some rando doesn’t want to date her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 10:11 AM
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But you’re acknowledging that those men had an existing issue with their sex lives. If that girl was doing exactly what he wanted in bed, I don’t think he’d care.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 10:10 AM
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I think a good amount of men truly don’t care. And also, the way you phrase that is so nasty. Even if your n-count is one, you would never go into detail with a new partner about the past sex you had; it’s in extremely poor taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 10:09 AM
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So did you decide to go out with them because they appeared wealthy, or because they were so enjoyable to talk to? I saw them on dating apps, liked the way they looked, had interesting conversations over text, and had shared passions. I didn’t know they were going to pay beforehand, that was a surprise bonus. And then the subsequent times they did it, I was like, well why say anything? Would you have been fine to split the bill if his company was worth that much to you? No, because they were mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 10:06 AM
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Also, “a large minority” is kind of like an oxymoron. No it isn’t. A small minority could be 1% and a large minority could be 49%. In this case the figure is around 21%. If you don’t really like or care much for the guy and you’re with him for the money and gifts and free meals, then you’re a gold-digger. But they often do like these men. I’ve had 3 men who paid for expensive dinners all the time and I genuinely liked talking to them and hanging out. It’s not gold digging; the food was just a bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 09:07 AM
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So many wrong assumptions made in here. ...she should pay the consequences Consequences for having fun? Lol what are they? Not having a man? Like that’s a real consequence in life Everyone knows what’s right and wrong. Wrong? Wow TIL having consensual sex is wrong. Save it with the puritanical moralizing. Destroying your life sleeping around All it takes is one man to destroy your life. Being in one shitty or abusive long term relationship will do more to ruin your life than having sex with a bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 08:55 AM
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Too bad a large minority of women actually experience rape but only a handful of men experience gold digging. Why do men think gold digging is asking for a gift every now and again and wanting men to pay for meals? Real gold digging is wanting to be spoiled with non-essential gifts and have all the living expenses covered. I know a gold digger and that girl has a bunch of designer bags and 6 figures in college tuition paid by her man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 08:49 AM
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So like you were enjoying whole experience with them, their attention Yes, but I could’ve done that without sex. The sex was beyond useless in those cases. Which is back to my earlier point of casual sex without orgasm is pointless and there’s nothing inherently enjoyable about the process without orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 06:10 PM
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no? No. you might not orgasm first time, but with same guy 2nd or 3rd time - definitely. No, again. I slept with this one guy 4 times and never came. I slept with this other guy like maybe 4 or 5 times and came twice. And don’t say: why did you keep coming back? You must’ve liked it. To which I respond: I was traumatized from previous events and couldn’t advocate for myself sexually and I also just liked those guys as people (or so I thought) and wanted to spend time with them. I didn’t enjoy th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 05:23 AM
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Also they go to the same surgeons their friends go to, which may not be the best ones. Some of the best surgeons are complete unknowns (i.e. no social media presence, flashy practice, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 01:32 AM
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That’s actually not what I’m saying at all. She doesn’t want to get off BECAUSE she’s getting him off, she wants to get off independently of whether he does or not. She wants to walk away from the sexual encounter with an orgasm. Otherwise, why is she there? You still haven’t answered that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 01:31 AM
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You’re right, but I was talking about implants not surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 01:30 AM
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The waist to hip ratio is just that, a ratio. A stick thin woman can have the same WTHR as a fat woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 09:21 PM
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That can happen particularly when you get to know your fuckbuddy and know her wants, needs, likes, dislikes, etc. Knowing a woman you’re fucking almost always leads to liking them. So isn’t the getting to know them process what makes you like them, not the repeated sex? If you had repeated sex only with a woman without ever learning about her, do you think you would still develop feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 09:12 PM
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You only think this because, as a woman, you probably can’t conceive of having sex outside of a relationship I thought the prevailing narrative here was that women are high-n sluts having tons of casual (not relationship) sex. You say women can only conceive of sex in the confines of a relationship. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 09:09 PM
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I hate this because it’s not like it was done in secret, her husband knew and they were making $150,000/month. It’s unfair to out her to the school and ruin the kids’ lives. Parents do all sorts of shit that might be unsavory but has nothing to do with the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 09:02 PM
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Lots of plastic surgeons post their work on IG nowadays and some of these patients have had face lifts, jaw implants, etc. and you would never know it. The quality has gotten really good.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 08:58 PM
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Plastic surgery has also just gotten more advanced, so the results come out more natural looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 08:26 PM
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Women enjoy the whole process in my experience No, we don’t. There is nothing enjoyable about the process of sex with a complete stranger with no orgasm. The process sometimes is enjoyable with a close partner even without orgasm but not a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 08:12 PM
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That’s not what she’s saying. She’s saying that the man will orgasm even from bad casual starfish sex but she will not orgasm from bad casual sex so why would she have sex with strangers? It’s not a team if he’s not trying to get her off at all and then she walks away from the encounter not with an orgasm but with a fear of pregnancy and STDs. It’s not transactional to expect to orgasm from sex; she’s not trading anything. That’s what the interaction should yield for both parties. If she’s going…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 08:02 PM
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My “friend I knew” since I was 11 years old molested me in my sleep at 17. All my other friends knew and they didn’t give a fuck. It’s incredible how often predators face little repercussions from their social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 07:54 PM
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Eh maybe, but your two examples aren’t the strongest. It’s just floor germs are gross and rape is gross and heinous and ruins people’s lives whereas casual sex was probably fun and happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 07:52 PM
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That privileges people with good memories. If you’re a 35 year old woman n=5 and you had sex in relationships only and then 2 drunk one night stands 15 years prior, you may forget him. If that makes you a slut, then “slut” has broad criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 07:44 PM
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Narrator: tell me you don’t care about rape without telling me you don’t care about rape. You: brings up rape as a gotcha during a discussion that had nothing to do with it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 07:36 PM
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How can you be viscerally disgusted by “sluts”? You can’t spot them and you could be dating a girl who had what you consider a high n-count and you would never know. It’s like those parents of gay kids who disown them when they come out. They were gay the whole time, you just didn’t know it, and it’s not like they changed when they told you about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 07:33 PM
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Two did after but we lost touch. I also lost touch with a few female friends from that time too who I was also quite close with but I guess you’ll come up with an answer to justify why that’s not the same. It’s hard to believe that these guys just wanted access to my body when many times I would see them or go on dates that wouldn’t end in sex, so they could’ve just dumped me for an easy lay minus the talking. They weren’t exactly struggling in the dating department.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 12:31 PM
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if a guy doesn’t want to have sex with a woman, then he definitely doesn’t love them either. Where is your evidence of this? I’ve read advice columns and DB posts of men saying they love their wives but they’re not attracted to them anymore. What do you say to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 08:51 AM
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Average person’s lifestyle depends on whether they live in a city or a suburb, live with roommates, family, or a partner. Before COVID, most women got up and went to work or school, ate somewhere, and then went home. Once home, they would veg out, practice hobbies, or perform domestic work. I’m pretty sure most men did the same, maybe minus the domestic work. On weekends, people hang out with friends or go on dates with SO or new person. Some people attend events like movies, shows, or parties. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 08:30 AM
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This actually made me laugh out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 08:22 AM
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So if you agree that men experience love, why do you seem to disagree that that feeling is separate and distinct from friendship and sexual attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 08:16 AM
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But like...why do men say they’re in love then? When a woman breaks up with them, do they only miss the consistent access to sex or is there something more? When they sever a friendship, do they have those same feelings of loss?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 08:00 AM
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Why do you always add “only” when reusing an illustration. Do you realize that this is actually a sign of an unwillingness to truly debate? What? Reread the quotation, there isn’t an “only” there, unless my eyes are deceiving me. YOU need the conversation. HE does NOT...WE have to fuel the convo, because otherwise it dies down. But he does need it haha, we both would bring up things we like to talk about! Our conversations, like any good ones, were always reciprocal. WE know women want to talk a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 07:54 AM
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Idk dude I’ve never had a problem with it. The men I’ve been with like talking to me not because I’m replacing their male friends or some expert in the field but because they value my perspective and find it interesting. They also happen to find me attractive but that’s not what our relationships were based off of. I couldn’t ever want a man who I would just have sex with and then take care of the kids and go to sleep? How is that a relationship? Where is the conversation lol? To be completely h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 06:58 AM
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I never said men didn’t have feelings, although oddly enough you are arguing that exact point. I never said you cared about what women felt, I thought we were just having a discussion where I was explaining to you the difference between friendship and romance. It is completely unbelievable to me that men feel the exact same way about their close friends and their girlfriends with the addition of sexual attraction. You’re the only one I’ve ever heard make this point. I’ve had guy friends and guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 06:40 AM
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Guys who are in a relationship with someone are going to want sex or you might as well not even say that you’re in a relationship. In the majority of cases, I don’t doubt that. But we’re not talking about what men want here, we’re talking about feelings and relationships in the abstract right now. When old couples stop having sex with each other, they don’t just transform into friends; they still love each other because of ~romance~. Also, relationships aren’t sex 24/7. There are many moments yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 06:18 AM
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It’s the desire to be close to another person, see and want to spend time with them in the future, and potentially do non-sexual activities like handholding and looking into their eyes, want to talk to them often, etc. It’s a real magnetism to that person that’s sort of hard to explain. I’ve never had it towards a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 05:47 AM
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From Wikipedia:) “Romance or Romantic love is an emotional feeling of love for, or a strong attraction towards another person, and the courtship behaviors undertaken by an individual to express those overall feelings and resultant emotions.” More on this: Attraction - There are many different types of attraction, including: Sexual attraction: attraction that makes people desire sexual contact or shows sexual interest in another person(s). Romantic attraction: attraction that makes people desire …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 05:32 AM
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How can you have a relationship if you don’t like talking to your girlfriend or wife? I’m sorry but I’m not understanding. In all my relationships, we talked about politics, economics, art, cooking, travel, etc. I couldn’t fathom having a relationship where my partner didn’t want to have those conversations with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 05:20 AM
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Why are you telling me what I feel lol? It’s not sexual attraction and it isn’t friendship. It’s a separate and distinct feeling; I’m not sure if it’s called romantic love or romantic attraction or limerence or something else but it most certainly is not friendship or sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 05:09 AM
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No like, the love I feel for my friends and family is different than the love I’ve felt for my romantic partners. There have been men I haven’t been sexually attracted to who I really had crushes on. It’s limerence, but stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 04:47 AM
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I feel incredibly close to my friends but the feeling I have for them is platonic and/or familial. I love them and I spend lots of time talking to them and doing activities but that’s not how I’ve felt with romantic partners. It’s a different type of feeling that is “love” or something close to it. I don’t think relationships=friendship + sex. I think it’s friendship + sex + romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 04:31 AM
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or in a sexless relationship, so basically a friendship I’ve seen this on here a lot. How is a sexless relationship a friendship? You feel (or at least you should feel) romantic feelings for your SO that you don’t feel for your friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 04:05 AM
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But then you have comments like these, which I’ve seen from a fair amount of men, who literally don’t like anything else about women other than their bodies. If men don’t actually like what’s in women’s brains, then how are they valuing women as people? https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/lpe5el/why_do_people_mess_up_a_good_thing_when_they_have/gohtsu3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 04:01 AM
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Very interested in these replies. Good question OP!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 10:49 AM
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You can’t disagree with facts!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 12:46 AM
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I’m 22! And I’m only bothered by intense misinformation that is just so easily disproven with quick research. It’s not a real biological inequality because it’s only a difference of 5 years. And no, those issues aren’t innate, it’s because of lowering sperm motility and quality as a man ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 12:27 AM
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That just isn’t true, male fertility problems are implicated in couples’ struggles to conceive just as often as women’s are. And just because you can conceive doesn’t mean the sperm is any good. Higher paternal age is correlated with all sorts of developmental delays and defects. It’s like wilted spinach; yeah you can still eat it but it’s not bursting with flavor and crisp texture. And being 38, you’re approaching what medicine calls “advanced paternal age.” Again, this is not to come at you or…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 11:46 PM
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Listen dude. You do you. But you’re still not responding to my point about Gauguin. If a man posted my exact same comment, would you give him a response?
/r/MGTOW223/02/21 10:27 PM
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Don’t engage in a conversation with me. Just don’t be surprised MGTOW gets a bad rap when you’re literally idolizing a pedophile.
/r/MGTOW223/02/21 10:08 PM
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Yeah...I’m gonna have to stop you there. First off, he abandoned his wife and 5 children to to go first to the pastoral landscape of Brittany, and then to Tahiti. He was obsessed with pre-industrial subjects and was actually quite disappointed when he ended up in Tahiti and found it wasn’t the “garden of Eden” it used to be due to colonization. He was a predator and a creep who took three child brides in Tahiti age 12-14, infected them with syphilis and then died of it himself. Don’t romanticize…
/r/MGTOW223/02/21 09:35 PM
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Most of the guys I’ve been with I’ve met or connected with through interests: talking about politics and/or debate clubs. They didn’t approach so much as we became friends and it turned into something more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 09:07 PM
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It’s actually about not eating soft foods and mouth breathing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 08:48 PM
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Conan The Barbarian I don’t think women are talking about a hypermasculine stereotype when they say “real man.” I think they just mean a man who is self-actualized, has hobbies, friends, takes care of himself, etc. I personally wouldn’t want a guy who plays video games all day but not because it’s reclusive or effeminate, just because it seems like he’s not producing or creating anything. Painting, writing, cooking, making music, etc. are all solitary activities that take up a lot of time like g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 08:45 PM
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But that’s not what you were responding to: So much for "you can learn to be attracted to someone" and "if everything else works, the attraction will grow". Variations of the statements you cited are commonly made in the context of women who assert they can overlook looks to an extent if everything else is going well or they can develop a sexual attraction to a man if everything else is going well and they have an emotional/romantic spark. The original commenter had already conceded that her bf …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 08:36 PM
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She actually says she was physically attracted to him but not romantically. How is that a red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 08:15 PM
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That’s really very hurtful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 07:19 PM
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They are though. Sperm degrades in quality and quantity as men age. Why is this so difficult to accept? Women know we have declining fertility, and men do too. It’s like you guys think you’re invincible virile specimens unencumbered by the laws of biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 07:14 PM
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I don’t think this is evidence of your ideology working because this phenomenon never happened to begin with. But maybe your ideology is working on different things? And depends how active online you are. The women with the highest frequency of DMs are the very active posters, regardless of looks. It’s more a function of an outgoing personality, how much they post pictures of themselves, and whether they have a private account. Either way, DMs from random guys are useless and I delete all of the…
/r/MGTOW223/02/21 10:10 AM
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1st off, the comment said “this is what it’s like for women,” meaning women in general. 2nd off, I have no idea how good looking I am other than getting comments from other women and men about my looks. Who knows right? 3rd, as I said before, not only does this not happen to me, but it doesn’t happen to anyone I know, anyone I’ve read about, seen online, or seen in the movies. I know many drop dead gorgeous women this doesn’t happen to, as I said. Again, all I’m looking for is some evidence of t…
/r/MGTOW223/02/21 09:53 AM
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Dude that’s just not true.The NIH says Overall, one-third of infertility cases are caused by male reproductive issues, one-third by female reproductive issues, and one-third by both male and female reproductive issues or by unknown factors. The myth of the woman struggling to conceive after a certain age is just that, a myth. Everyone has issues conceiving after a certain age. This study says for couples having regular unprotected sex: around 7 out of 10 women aged 30 will conceive within one ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 09:01 AM
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But is that woman dating currently?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 08:48 AM
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Women are constantly becoming less fertile once menstruation starts. There’s no magic age that you can’t have kids anymore. Sperm degrades over time in the exact same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 08:46 AM
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Well compared to bad sex for women (no orgasm + pain), aren’t you guys still ending up ahead?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 05:56 AM
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Where do you see this happening to women? What evidence do you have? I have never in my life experienced this, read about this, met any women who this happens to, or watched it in a movie.
/r/MGTOW223/02/21 05:54 AM
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But it’s not bad sex because it actually leads to an orgasm for the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 05:16 AM
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There are no inherent benefits to marriage, IMO. Marriage is like religion, only believers see the benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 02:37 AM
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Prostitutes do not want to be prostitutes. It’s not just my opinion of sex, it’s what I’ve learned sex workers think about it. Men just delude themselves into thinking those poor women they’re exploiting like it so they don’t think of themselves as psychopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 02:36 AM
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Well I have statistics on my side too, not just my own experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 02:34 AM
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What? Why would anyone like bad sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 02:33 AM
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Yeah they are but idk what you mean by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 12:58 AM
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Maybe because it’s happened to me before? So it’s not irrational thinking lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 09:44 PM
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They are being physically and emotionally used and abused by doing an activity that’s supposed to be reserved for fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 09:42 PM
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I don’t at all mind, and am attracted to small breasts. But would I prefer perfectly shaped C cups? Yes. I know this is extremely tangential but cup size doesn’t tell you if breasts are big or small because bra sizes are ratios. For example, the breast volume of a 32C is the same as a 30D, 34B, and a 36A. And the breast volume of a 30C is not the same breast volume as a 34C. Here is a helpful graphic: https://images.app.goo.gl/vShaaDYt8r5mKFR17
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 09:20 PM
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First of all, men don’t just automatically get”safety”. Yes you do. I’m sure you just walk down the street not feeling like someone is going to start following and harassing you. I’m sure you went on dates never worried about whether you would get drugged, kidnapped, or raped. I’m sure you never worried about whether your outfit would cause people to touch your body without your consent. you’re also not a man, with thirst. Sometimes I want to have sex and you know what I do then? Masturbate. I’v…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 09:09 PM
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And from what she said the guy GENUINELY wanted to take it slow. He was "respecting her body", while these mean bad man she fucked "doesnt care about her so he shouldnt be worried". Its weird how youre excusing her behaviour. The fact she opened up Tinder and fucked the guy the same night they had the date isnt weird from your pov. I just don’t believe it. Unless something bothers you, you wouldn’t be jealous. People don’t just get jealous out of thin air. Women typically have ONS with guys abov…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:53 PM
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Adversity? TIL trauma isn’t adversity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:49 PM
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can you give me an example of a hypothetical conversation that highlights what you’re talking about? Like you’d bring up x issue and she’d say/do what?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:47 PM
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I’m perfectly aware you only see it from your perspective and through a prism of your pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:46 PM
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Contrary to popular belief there are people who like having sex for money. That’s a male fantasy. They only appreciate the money. https://www.salon.com/2015/09/30/the_sex_was_never_ever_fun_my_lessons_in_prostitution/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:45 PM
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If they’re making many requests of or being rude to an already abused, overworked workforce then yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:42 PM
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Why do you people think dating and relationships are so important? Like the fact that men can just have safety in modern society is so incredible and you don’t even realize it. Who cares if you can’t get laid? I haven’t had sex in literal years, it’s not that big of a deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:41 PM
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I have sympathy for men’s life struggles because all humans have those struggles. I don’t have sympathy for men complaining about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:39 PM
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They shouldn’t I guess? But they also shouldn’t abuse us.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:38 PM
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I like sex with men who are good at sex. Why would I like bad sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:37 PM
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I think OP means if someone doesn’t like you, stop trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:54 AM
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I was thinking the same thing lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:31 AM
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Yeah I really hate when men say that women are only good for sex, our personalities are dull, and our interests are boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:19 AM
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Here is a study that responds to that point. A study from the American Association of University Women showed there is a 7% wage gap between male and female college grads a year after graduation, even controlling for college major, occupation, age, geographical region and hours worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:10 AM
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Holy shit, if I give you $200 in compensation for work that typically costs $2000, but you dont know anything about the pricing system and that fit your needs you will say yes and gladly take it. You think you got a good deal because it can pay off your rent and utilities and you still have money left over at the end to buy whatever you want. You think its a sweet deal but then you find out that someone else was given $2000 dollars for the same work. Now youre upset because you were devalued for…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:58 AM
1

Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. The burden of proof is on you to substantiate that assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:39 AM
0

I’m not looking to leech off of a man. I don’t care about men. I’m just upset that they are getting unearned privilege in society compared to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:38 AM
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Men who are employed earn more than us and some men are unemployed losers living in their parents’ basements.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 06:04 AM
1

Thanks for agreeing with me still. I didn’t say that at all? I actually said the opposite of that. That even if someone doesn’t know they’re getting the short end of the stick, they’ll still be dissatisfied with their current circumstances. It just so happens they ONS attractive men and get into relationships with the less attractive one. No, again. I don’t even know where you get this from, this doesn’t track with anything I’ve ever read or seen in real life. Most people have a mix of attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 05:48 AM
2

Because she’s desperate for that money and she has to resort to a really demeaning job where gross men are using her body. She actively dislikes what you’re doing to her and that doesn’t make you feel bad at all? That you’re getting pleasure from someone’s pain?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 05:45 AM
1

There are caveats to everyone’s likes. You can like wine but not like red wine. I like sex but only if it’s good lol. Why do you think that’s incongruous?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 05:44 AM
2

Idk dude I know a hell of a lot of girls (myself included) that have fucked guys we didn’t want relationships with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 05:42 AM
1

A lot of men find women seriously lacking in this department. It’s honestly sad any time a man admits this. I’m not surprised but it’s upsetting that men get into relationships with women they don’t like or don’t respect just so they can have regular access to sex, a baby incubator, and a maid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 05:34 AM
1

Noo, someone doesn’t have to realize they are getting bread crumbs and someone else isn’t to get mad. A poor person living in an drafty house doesn’t need to know some people live in insulated mansions to not like their current dwelling. If a woman is currently talking to one guy and another guy and fucks the second guy on the first date and makes the first one wait theres a clear difference in who she prefers there. Again, no. Ask any woman and they’ll tell you this isn’t true. Because women do…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 05:11 AM
1

Well then idk what to tell you; they can’t have it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 04:49 AM
1

I just don’t think this is a thing that happens. Maybe it’s among some certain age demographic or something but I’ve never dated a guy who wasn’t vulnerable with me or who said that their exes didn’t like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 04:48 AM
1

Yeah, no. No one is ever satisfied with crumbs. They only don’t complain because they didn’t even know the full loaf is an option. woman would respect him as much as the other guy. Respect = ONS. Interesting idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 04:47 AM
1

And when I go to Walmart I feel bad whenever I see employees reorganizing shelves and checking out rude customers. It’s like you have no problem admitting you don’t have empathy for sex workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 04:45 AM
1

Idk maybe. Even when I’m visible, it’s not like there are real offers of anything to me anyways. Sometimes a past partner hits me with the “you up?” or a guy hollers at me on the street. Those aren’t real offers, and frankly the latter one is offensive and scary. What you’re thinking of in terms of women getting actual offers are when guys make good faith attempts to get to know us in restaurants or school or some other public area, which I agree doesn’t happen to men that much. The other stuff …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 10:19 PM
1

That guy was never getting what he really wanted, he was just tempering his expectations. Just like the employee never really wants lower pay, they just accept it because they can’t do anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 10:14 PM
2

But it is for women too. Those girls who never leave their houses don’t actually have friends or relationships. I think you constructed an image of a young woman highly active on social media who doesn’t go out much but has offers thrown at her. Usually those people are highly social outside of their houses, they’re not real basement dwellers. I’m actually a basement dweller these days and I don’t have any offers from men because I’m not making myself visible to any of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 10:10 PM
2

not just in your head That’s so dismissive. I could easily say it’s in men’s heads that women are settling for them, or only desire Chad or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 10:06 PM
1

Both are true. Dating is hard even for men who do put in the effort, but many men don’t put in the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 09:58 PM
2

Where do you meet these women with these thoughts?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 09:53 PM
2

were you monitoring their vaginas? Teenage girls talk about sex with their friends. When you’re all virgins or n=1, any time someone has sex is a giant deal. Being immersed in a fake virtual world isn’t the way to get sex partners last time I checked.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 09:52 PM
1

Omg you keep not understanding my point. You can’t supposedly be fine with a situation and then get upset when you hear your partner was acting differently with someone else. That means he wasn’t fine with the situation to begin with. It’s not about the other guy, it’s about his needs not being met by his girlfriend. Clearly, he wishes his girlfriend fucked him early, and he only admits it when he finds out she did with someone else. But imagine for a second that he wasn’t bothered by the timing…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 09:43 PM
6

I know they don’t think about it, that’s my point. She’s just a masturbatory receptacle for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 09:33 PM
2

I knew girls like that in middle snd high school, they weren’t having sex. It was purely about the validation from other girls, not guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 09:30 PM
2

an Instagram and social media presence Millions of women have Instagram, it doesn’t mean it’s for posting thirst traps and talking to strange guys. We’re not all influencers lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 09:18 PM
2

Doesn’t it bother men that the woman they just bought is actively hating what he’s doing to her? Like that’s so sick to me, those men should never be treated as normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 09:04 PM
1

Parental leave would be awesome, we agree there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 08:52 PM
2

Hasn’t happened yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 08:51 PM
1

Then get a therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 08:50 PM
1

After the guy found out about this he broke up with her. Obviously sex by a certain date was important to him and he didn’t get what he wanted, so he has every right to break up with her. The fact he got mad she had NSA sex with someone else earlier than him shows that his needs weren’t being met and he was jealous. If, for example, he found out that she went on a tinder date to mini golf and that was something he didn’t like/care about, then his reaction probably wouldn’t be to break up with he…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 08:04 PM
1

Did you even read what I said? If new guy is satisfied with the current amount of sex hes having, then why would it matter how much or how early his new gf was having sex with her previous partners? These problems of comparison only arise when the new guy isn’t satisfied for whatever reason, not because there’s anything inherently wrong with having different relationships with different people. If I found out my boyfriend used to buy expensive clothes for his exes and he isn’t for me, then I’d o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 08:43 AM
1

I didn’t ignore anything. I’m responding to you or whoever the other poster was. If you were previously satisfied with your partner’s current level of engagement and only became unsatisfied when you found out they did more for their previous partner, then you’re just jealous. I stand by that statement. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with changing how you treat your partners because different relationships are different. As long as you treat them to a way that’s satisfactory to them, they d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 07:31 AM
1

Don’t you get hungry?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 07:28 AM
1

Sex is not a gift. Unless men think that it’s something that women should subject themselves to for male benefit alone, which is...quite strange. If you and your partner are already meeting each other’s needs but then you find out one did something more/different for the other partner and you’re jealous, it’s a you problem (male or female).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 06:09 PM
5

Pregnancy/motherhood often impacts earnings so the father needs to be earning enough to support the family if that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 05:52 PM
3

But wouldn’t those guys realize from experience that women want toxic masculinity? If the proof is in the pudding, they will have already reached this conclusion and they know the secret to getting dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 10:24 AM
1

He’s not making underwear for convenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:29 AM
2

Get breathable underwear. If it’s this hard to be a considerate citizen in public, maybe men shouldn’t be in public?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:25 AM
2

Do it before you get on the bus/train or wait until after. Or straight up scratch yourself right then and there, but keep your legs together.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:20 AM
2

Sometimes you’re like a little itchy at the entrance. The point still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:17 AM
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No but I’ve suffered from itchy vagina/swamp ass, and I don’t have to spread my legs in public, thus taking up a seat someone else needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:04 AM
1

It’s almost like life isn’t supposed to revolve around sex 24/7 Spot on. For some reason every CMV is “men shouldn’t be doing this because women don’t like it” but it’s like, why do they plan everything in their lives to be attractive to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 08:03 AM
3

Go getter and crybaby are not opposites.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:58 AM
0

Then just keep doing what you’re doing? If toxic masculinity works for you guys, why does it matter what women say?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:52 AM
2

Uh, aren’t you supposed to take up as little space as possible on public transport, when other people need it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:49 AM
1

I didn’t know what they were less of anything until I was able to compare them to those who were more of everything. Also, I didn’t know these things until after I had sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:45 AM
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I just don’t think this is true. Dead bedrooms happen at any age, to anyone, for many reasons. It’s not usually because of lack of attraction, so much as it is because of life getting in the way, and people turning into unlikeable partners. On the other issue, sexual attraction is not aesthetic attraction, and while I may grant you that women find their partners in their younger years more aesthetically attractive, it doesn’t necessarily make them more sexually attractive. The guys I have been m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 10:58 PM
1

I don’t know what that means.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:54 PM
-1

Men usually aren’t going to their friends to cry about their girlfriend not showing basic romantic gestures or respect to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:42 PM
-1

Men are more comfortable being vocal. The requests men make of their wives/gfs are things I would never dream of telling a man to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:35 PM
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That’s not a pick me. My definition of it is a woman who lets her man walk all over her, up to and including cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:35 PM
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Same girl. Any girl can tell you that when you start rejecting men, that’s when they want you more and will do anything for you. Guys get tired of the pick-me crap real quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:30 PM
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I guarantee you that woman has expectations, she just keeps it bottled up inside. She’s the type to text her friends “hey do I have the right to be sad that my boyfriend didn’t do anything for me for Valentine’s Day?” “is it normal that he just goes days without responding to my texts?” “I don’t want to be the jealous girlfriend but should I be upset that he’s always looking at IG models?” It’s really sad when you have a pick-me friend tbh. They let themselves get walked all over bc of low self-…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:28 PM
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Most can’t seem to keep a boyfriend though. This is the relevant part. Men like a chase, they like women pushing back against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:25 PM
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It doesn’t though. These girls frequently get cheated on and then run to their friends/Internet saying “I did everything for him and he still left me.” It’s like the female equivalent of the “nice guy/simp.”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:21 PM
1

I never said they were common, just that they were superlative.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:17 PM
4

But what if you do find him equally as attractive? People’s tastes change, it doesn’t mean the previous thing was better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:16 PM
5

Finally someone gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:09 PM
2

Just on this one issue: Hairy armpits/pubes are present on every single adult woman on earth so it’s odd to not want that if you’re supposedly into women. ETA: it’s funny you guys think women have high standards when at least when we get a man, we don’t tell him to jump through hoops to change his physical appearance. Whereas when you get a woman, you have no problem telling her to shave incessantly, lose a bunch of weight, get plastic surgery, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:06 PM
1

8 inches. ETA: 7 is big, 8 is really big.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:00 PM
1

It’s not settling if your tastes just change.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:46 PM
3

I believe you think that and that’s horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:45 AM
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That’s disgusting. And honestly it makes sense why women think men don’t respect us. Because you literally admit you don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:48 AM
1

Good at least that physical abuse is a no-no for you? Sorry, but unless you’re in the bed with them, you’ll never know your friends like that. I guarantee if you ask any of their girlfriends, you’ll get to hear about sides of them you never knew. (Not saying they’re predators, just that the person one is in a romantic relationship is not the same as they are in friendships.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:48 AM
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Even when they are sad it’s endearing. When they’re angry, it’s sweet. You don’t even see how you’re infantilizing women. Parents say the same thing about their toddlers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:44 AM
1

Are we obliged to do so? Yes, because it ensures the safety and well-being of a large segment of the population. Obviously you don’t have to, but it would be nice if you did. I think you’re not participating because you don’t see anything wrong with the current state of affairs. How would you go about making/forcing us to do something we should be doing as you expect us? I don’t, I just wish you would. Maybe social shaming is the only tactic I would agree with? But at the same time, if men don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:38 AM
1

You don’t know men the way women know men. In the same way that I don’t know how women act around men because I’m not there in those private moments. It always makes me laugh when guys say stuff like that because it’s so obvious. Of course you wouldn’t know if your male friends were predators, why would you? Unless they’re complete sociopaths, they’re not bragging that they coerced their girlfriend into anal even though she kept saying she was tired and in pain. That’s like when one of Trump’s f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:15 AM
1

Yeah, but I bet there were some trophy wives there. Didn’t see any of those there either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:12 AM
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You obviously didn’t know them very well then. One’s general disposition is not their entire personality and no woman or man is fun, cute, and endearing all of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:10 AM
2

Are you sure it’s half the population? Half the population, meaning: men. Not all men are like this obviously but many are, and an even larger amount just stand by and don’t call it out. Feel better? Not really. I would rather men just not be like this. I’ve always said that men are okay when they’re not interacting with women. Something happens in their brains when it comes to women though... MGTOW is a lifestyle/philosophy in the same way religion is. It has behavioral prescriptions, but it al…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:09 AM
1

It’s not an assumption, it’s more like a supposition. I personally believe that most men have the capacity to violate boundaries, maybe half might coerce or take advantage of a woman (even perhaps not knowing it’s wrong), but only a minority are that depraved that they would violently rape an unconscious woman or one who was fighting back.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:04 AM
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By male behavior, I mean adhering to traditional gender roles which relegate women to the domestic sphere, place them lower in the social hierarchy, and disrespect their autonomy. I’m also talking about misogynistic comments and discourse that contribute to women basically feeling like shit. Just speaking personally here, as a frequent reader of manosphere content, I am still shocked by the vile remarks and hateful attitude men have towards women. Even on regular social media, posts about DV, se…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 04:54 AM
1

“Potential rapists” is still different than “rapists.” Anywho, are your coworkers saying this in meetings or in casual conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 04:41 AM
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“It,” being male behavior. Women aren’t radicalized by the media or socialism or whatever boogeyman men set up to absolve them of their responsibility in creating feminism. It’s simply women fed up with mistreatment by men that they turn to ideologies that advocate for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 04:37 AM
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Funny, first time I heard the phrase “men are pigs” was from a man. “Men are users” is another form of “men only want one thing,” which is what a lot of men (even on this forum) readily admit. That last one is probably based off the fact that men will literally tell you they don’t use something because it’s feminine. I’ve literally had a guy tell me yogurt and salads are “women’s foods.” If one of your coworkers said something like “all men are rapists,” then yeah I’d agree it’s misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 04:31 AM
1

Fun, cute, and endearing sounds like an anime character. Are you sure you’re into real life women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 04:24 AM
1

What types of comments?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 04:22 AM
1

Ooo yeah women want to sell their bodies, not like they desperately need the money to avoid starving or anything. I, too, wanted to be a prostitute when I grew up. Hmm, I don’t remember any showing up to 6th grade career day though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 04:08 AM
0

TIL money and your body are of equal importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 03:55 AM
1

Of course I’m being facetious. I just wonder why you think that this post would get a woman horny? Women wanting niceness and compassion in their partners doesn’t mean it’s a sexually attractive trait, just that it’s a necessity for an emotionally healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 06:54 PM
1

The problem with women getting in bad relationships is not that female intuition doesn’t work; it’s that those women often ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 05:29 PM
2

6 female friends. 22-23. All UMC, pretty, and thin. 2 choose not to date because of bad experiences/no time but they used to. 3 are in long term stable relationships. 1 engages in casual dating. I used to date but now I choose not to because of bad experiences as well so I don’t feel unsuccessful. I sometimes envy their being in relationships right now but I wouldn’t really want to date around to get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 05:11 PM
1

If he’s mostly confident but has moments of shyness/nervousness, it’s cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 09:42 AM
1

Yes, my panties are absolutely soaked from this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 09:39 AM
1

I asked if you were a man hours ago and then when you responded, I snooped your profile. And no, I have a great relationship with my dad and I love him very much. He just didn’t fulfill the disciplinarian role as much as was required. Those studies that show women are more likely to abuse children have those findings because women spend the most time with children. Men are more likely to neglect children so there you go. No one wants to smother you in compliments? Perhaps mothers are complaining…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 09:21 AM
2

Spoiler alert: I checked your profile and I saw you frequent r / singledads, so no to your question. With that said, it’s still relevant that you’re a father and not a mother because fathers just don’t worry about their kids. I hesitate to go as far as to say they don’t care, but in a lot of instances they don’t. If I didn’t have my mom watching me, I would’ve been in many dangerous social situations that my dad had allowed, I wouldn’t have buckled down in school as much, and I wouldn’t have bee…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 09:02 AM
2

Are you a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 06:28 AM
5

Why don’t all men just go to sex workers then? Why do they even try to date or have casual sex?
/r/MGTOW216/02/21 02:46 AM
2

Consequences because your boss is allowed to fire you if you skip work a certain amount of times. Your husband can “fire” you too (divorce) but that’s not a big consequence to women who don’t want to have sex with them anyway. I’m not exactly sure what point you’re trying to make, you have to show up to work even if they don’t want to but women don’t have to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:33 PM
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There are 2 responses to that: You can make that choice if you’d like, although you might have consequences. You kind of have to go to work if you don’t want to deal with the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:24 PM
1

Okay, yes, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:13 PM
3

absolutely, I’m not disputing that. I’m simply saying that although it’s lower among younger and richer people, it’s still high. Even in the last link you posted, WI found a 22.4% obesity rate among 18-24 year olds. And that doesn’t even factor in the percentage of overweight people in that age group.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:51 PM
3

So using is just giving a reason why you don’t want to do something?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:26 PM
3

Well all schools are different, but the data does bore out that even young people and even rich people are overweight and obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:20 PM
4

Maybe it didn’t have a big party scene? Drinking heavily and midnight snacking definitely packs on the pounds if you don’t work out after.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:15 PM
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-Can do same caretaking roles as mom even if he doesn’t all the time -Interested in child’s life/friends/hobbies -Is warm and approachable to children -Knows how to discipline without being controlling or strict -Teaches his kids life skills -Respects his wife
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:13 PM
3

That she’s using her lack of energy, messy state of the house or bad day at work to not have sex with her spouse. What do you mean “using”?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:03 PM
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I’m not sure how true this is; obesity is high in all classes, just highest in the lowest class. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/wr/mm6650a1.htm Anecdotally, there were lots of fat young white girls at my expensive private college, presumably due to partying/drinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 04:48 PM
1

Increased contraception? Yeah I’d be down with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 03:09 PM
1

Happiness is relative. Those women had no viable options other than the ones they were in and they resigned themselves to that life. From time immemorial, women have complained about being relegated to the domestic sphere. Why do you think 2nd wave feminism caught on so strongly if most women enjoyed being housewives? Again, I can’t prove this but if you ever spend any time around a school at pickup time, you’ll hear women complaining about having to go home and cook and clean and help with home…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 11:09 PM
1

https://daily.jstor.org/what-really-made-1950s-housewives-so-miserable/ https://slate.com/human-interest/2011/05/housewives-didn-t-live-in-bliss-in-the-50s.html https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Feminine_Mystique
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 11:00 PM
1

You literally just said “no” because you don’t like what I’m saying, not because it wasn’t true. Yes, the plural of anecdote is not data so I’d have to do a bunch of work to see if this has been definitively proven through surveys and studies but it’s generally understood among women that before divorce was common and accepted and women could make a decent living alone, women felt obligated to stay in marriages even though they weren’t fulfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 10:57 PM
1

Because when you hear a chorus of women saying the same thing, you draw conclusions. A lot of us don’t just hear it from our own family members, but we see stranger women saying it, evidence from books and older media, etc. It’s like you men draw on anecdotes and stuff you hear to come to your opinions about women or the way the world works; we do too. Obviously some women were happy in their marriages but many more weren’t and they felt they couldn’t leave so they resigned themselves to that li…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 10:50 PM
1

I didn’t say that. I was responding to Why is it women insist that people they never knew were miserable My only assertion is that many modern-day women who hold these views are basing them off of conversations with family members who they actually do know.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 10:41 PM
1

No like, it’s because we’ve talked to our mothers and grandmothers about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 10:23 PM
1

Women were on psychotropic medication ever since they were invented. (think: Valium, Prozac, and Adderall ads of the 50s and 60s marketed toward housewives)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 10:14 PM
-2

It’s one thing to not like your partner’s friends for a legitimate reason; it’s another thing entirely to “disapprove” of your partner hanging out with them. Isolation is the first tactic of abusers of either gender.
/r/MGTOW214/02/21 03:24 PM
-9

Women can’t go out with their friends?
/r/MGTOW214/02/21 02:06 AM
2

How old is the baby?
/r/MGTOW213/02/21 06:27 PM
0

What does that have to do with married red pill beliefs?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 06:23 PM
1

You’re being willfully obtuse. Being gay is not a choice, but sometimes you don’t know if you are or not without experimentation. Neither gay nor straight people are making themselves that way; the experimentation may only reveal their true, already existing orientation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 06:22 PM
8

Getting an abortion is taking responsibility. Bringing up a child you can’t afford in a home it is unwanted is the irresponsible route.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 02:13 PM
11

Why wouldn’t you be pro-abortion? Unwanted kids are bad for the mother or parents, and bad for society. The more people who choose to abort, the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 02:05 PM
5

Why would married red pill inherently be anti-abortion? Married women have abortions too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 02:04 PM
4

People in here who talk about overweight or obesity not being beautiful don’t really understand what beauty is. You can tell when someone (man or woman) is good looking but overweight. It’s not a permanent characteristic and you’re not born with it so it shouldn’t really be considered as an “ugly” feature in the same way narrow shoulders or something would be because that’s permanent. Watching a lot of My 600-Lb. Life, you see a lot of men and women who have high cheekbones, small noses, and bea…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 01:59 PM
2

If you try sushi a few times and each time you never liked it, then you wouldn’t call yourself someone who likes sushi. You would say you tried it and it wasn’t for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 01:54 PM
2

That might all be true, but that still isn’t even related my point. All I was saying was that those government programs aren’t to encourage sex-having, they’re to encourage family-building, but of course guys see them as a conduit to just having more sex. The government couldn’t care less if people aren’t having sex (that’s why there is zero focus on promoting sex among married couples, for example). They only care about raising the birth rate and increasing social cohesion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 01:45 PM
0

I’m sure they would, but that’s not really the point of my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 07:09 AM
17

Those social initiatives are for the purpose of increasing sexual activity insofar as it leads to strengthening of the family and reproduction. They’re not geared toward getting men to have casual NSA sex, which seems to be the goal of many men in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 06:12 AM
1

Echoing this, I’ve been single for 3 years and my friends have for varying lengths of time shorter than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 12:18 PM
3

Women don’t withhold sex as punishment. They just aren’t in the mood to have it if they’re angry at their partner. It’s not retributive, it’s literally a lack of desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 11:46 AM
1

Or, and hear me out, nothing happens to him except being rejected. You guys say women are dramatic and then you go and write some paranoid screed about being persecuted for asking a woman out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 11:51 AM
3

But it’s you guys who keep complaining only about the lack of sex. It’s you guys who say women are selfish and don’t give you emotional support and fulfillment. I don’t get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 11:12 AM
13

You invented that statistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 02:34 AM
1

An unattractive (to the woman) man trying to chat her up and not leaving when she clearly doesn’t show interest, is harassment. It’s not harassment because he’s unattractive; it’s harassment because he’s continuing to badger or pester even after signals of disinterest or outright rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 02:31 AM
0

First off, marriage is not a legal contract in which the wife swears her body to the husband. It’s an asset/tax sharing arrangement. Even historical marriage was a contract to improve one family’s status by transferring ownership (of the wife), and therefore wealth; it also was used to forge an alliance to gain political power. There is no definition of marriage that supports your assertions. Alimony and child support are not financial slavery; they are payments for obligations (the men’s own ch…
/r/MGTOW210/02/21 02:05 AM
0

So you’re in favor of sex slavery?
/r/MGTOW209/02/21 09:57 PM
1

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 03:55 AM
1

Idk dude people change their thoughts, feelings, and beliefs with more maturity. Some people who never wanted kids end up having a strong desire to have them later in life. People do change, especially when it comes to changing their life’s priorities. There are men who are quite promiscuous I assume who just don’t want that lifestyle anymore at an older age. It’s not that they’re picking an off ramp or calculating what their chances of dying alone are, it’s just that they don’t like what they u…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 11:16 PM
0

It’s not a question of choosing watermelon vs. grapes. It’s hoping the watermelon is sweet enough and not knowing until you buy it and bite into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 12:58 PM
2

Women might not give a guy they’re not physically attracted to a chance, if the situation is framed from the start as a potential dating relationship. However, a guy that she’s getting to know because he just happens to be in her life (like a friend or coworker) can end up sparking those feelings later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 12:43 PM
1

I think you’re describing male sexuality. Just anecdotally, female sexuality is more objective rather than subjective (in terms of pure attraction, not relationship seeking).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 12:24 PM
3

Or maybe she just doesn’t like it anymore? You like all the same things you liked when you were 20? You have all the same priorities and values? I think not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 12:03 PM
3

People most definitely change their minds as they grow up. If a woman was exploring different sexual partners and then got bored of it or decided it wasn’t fulfilling anymore or any other reason, then that means her view towards sex has changed. People can switch things as fundamental as their religion or political views so why do you think sex is different?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 12:01 PM
3

If women didn’t have a sex drive, they would never have sex. And responding to an earlier point of yours, having a sex drive in a relationship is still having a sex drive. Asexual people, for example, do not have a sex drive ever. People taking some psychiatric medication don’t either. Women aren’t ruled by their sex drives but they definitely have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 11:59 AM
5

Actually yes. Haven’t you heard women say things like “this guy is nothing like my exes”?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 11:56 AM
2

Well clearly men aren’t doing a cost-benefit analysis when it comes to preying upon children. Seriously thank you for being honest and admitting that men are barely sentient and ruled by their dicks. Furthermore, women have casual sex so they must have sex drives.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 08:09 AM
4

Are you seriously saying that men have no criteria? I guess that makes sense as to why they find children and animals attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 07:26 AM
4

A woman could have sex with one man who does this...so unless you’re telling women to die virgins, these are problems they could encounter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 07:24 AM
3

Uh...people don’t change their minds as they grow and mature?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 07:23 AM
2

Men literally have come up to me and said nice tits. A man sitting next to me on a train opened up porn with sound on and started touching himself. On dating apps the messages are often lurid. Absolute cretins.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 03:25 AM
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Lots of feminists “hate men” as a group but are still attracted to them. Most men just aren’t attractive, it’s not that women have low sex drives. I pretty much don’t like men at all but I’d have sex with a hot one who was good in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 03:09 AM
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Fantasy ≠ reality Sometimes I have a fantasy of being a famous actress but I wouldn’t want paparazzi following me, working long hours on a movie set, or constant traveling in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 03:06 AM
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Causality? Women go to FDS to complain about abuse, whether sexual, emotional, mental, or physical. Yes, you probably need to have had sex with at least one person to have experienced this but lots of people go on FDS to talk about their abusive parents’ relationship and how they don’t want to replicate it or watching their friends be mistreated. You certainly don’t need to be “promiscuous” to have been in a bad relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 01:19 AM
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or otherwise does not value commitment the same way you do As if people value commitment the same at every stage in life. If you meet a 25 year old woman who had been in a monogamous relationship for 4 years but had 20 partners before that, how does that woman not value commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 01:04 AM
5

The baggage is not simply from having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 01:02 AM
5

And not something men should bet on. Then don’t? There’s no one forcing men to date women, low or high-n. You all have so many complaints and women never seem to meet your standards so why don’t you just opt out?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 01:01 AM
1

Well she certainly doesn’t need marital arts to protect herself against other girls...perhaps you understand the dangerous realities women face by [group who shall not be named] but you’re afraid to admit it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 05:01 PM
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Dude that’s how you get a woman who is always searching for a father figure. That is not a good strategy at alll
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 04:54 PM
3

I wouldn’t raise her by telling her all about how bad boys are Yet I’d get her into a few self-defense classes Why would she need those if boys were so wonderful?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 04:53 PM
2

allow Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 04:50 PM
2

Epiduo Forte (BP based) worked well for non-cystic acne got me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 02:33 PM
0

Yeah it’s nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 01:20 PM
1

You didn’t understand anything I wrote and I wrote it in the clearest terms possible so there’s nothing else to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 07:37 AM
1

That’s...not what feminism is about, even by the twisted manosphere definition. People like you argue that women are not disadvantaged in xyz area and thus nothing needs to be made equal because then it’ll just lead to female supremacy or something but again, even using that definition, BDSM doesn’t fall into that realm. The idea of gender inequity (whether you agree with it or not) just doesn’t have anything to do with how people have sex. Feminists can think things are misogynistic without bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 05:49 AM
0

Dude I’m asking such a simple question here: you said that BDSM contradicts feminism and I’m asking you in what way does it? ETA: yes, I too am against BDSM, but not on feminist grounds. I think it is misogynistic, abusive, and frequently exploits women who are suffering from past trauma and abuse. ETA 2: are you saying that some feminists are hypocritical for criticizing BDSM while also engaging in it? in that case, I would agree with you, but it has nothing to do with feminism and the wording …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 05:23 AM
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Is this a serious question? Women are biologically bound to their children, they raise them, they have to protect them, and until they grow up, they’re usually cure and nice. Contrast that with men...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 05:06 AM
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Tender Years Doctrine hasn’t been used for decades. Now it’s the “best interest of the child” standard, which presupposes joint physical custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 05:03 AM
1

It’s not. I’m not opposed to it because it violates feminist principles, because it doesn’t. But that’s not what started this conversation. You said That part always amused me with how BDSM overall contradicts feminism. And this whole conversation I’m wondering where the contradiction is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 04:58 AM
1

What I’m asking is which tenet of feminism does BDSM violate? General misogyny is not technically anti-feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 04:47 AM
2

I like muscles too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 03:57 AM
1

This is really spot on. It’s also general socialization advice about how to get more friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 03:42 AM
1

But feminism generally calls for equality. What is unequal about BDSM? I happen to think it’s disgusting and misogynistic but not technically anti-feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 02:36 AM
2

After the online interactions and the man asks you out to a first date, what does his asking you out mean to you? What does it signify in your mind? Do you think it means he cares about you or likes you? Do you think it means more than just "interest"? He’s asking me out to get to know me better because he likes me on some level other than physical. If I already have been talking to him, he likes me and is interested, but doesn’t yet care about me. He only cares to see where it will go. When you…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 01:10 AM
1

Yeah most of these women were abused as children and teens and like BDSM because it feels familiar. They need therapy, not a Dom.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 12:55 AM
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It doesn’t really. They have nothing to do with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 12:54 AM
1

No, just in the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 06:01 PM
0

No, they ask for my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 04:10 PM
0

Well yeah they ultimately are the deciders. But I definitely give my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 03:58 PM
0

Can you discuss that with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 03:18 PM
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I do this to my friends all the time. It’s about wanting them to value themselves more because most of the time, they’re choosing someone way below them in status or looks. It’s also about looking out for their future children if it ever makes it that far, because you don’t want them looking like some ugly guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 03:16 PM
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I think we’re all socialized to believe and like certain things and she just happened to like that lol. Just like some people are socialized to believe in god or whatever. I’m not unique, neither are you, neither is she.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 01:11 PM
1

Oh that’s not the point I was making. I was disaggregating “vulnerability” into complaining about life experiences (which is legitimate) from sort of the male whining woe-is-me and saying that that maybe could account for the difference in treatment by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 07:53 AM
1

I don’t even know what that means, can you clarify?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 07:47 AM
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Okay that’s fine, I was only responding to one particular word in your statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 02:47 AM
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Bisexual women are still attracted to men. So that hasn’t changed. Now, if bisexual women are actively choosing against men, it’s not because of looks, it’s because of gross male behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 02:46 AM
0

It’s funny because I’m one of those “I hate men and I’m not afraid to admit it” types and all my guy friends and exes have had really vulnerable conversations with me. I hate when men complain about supposedly being disadvantaged as a male, because it’s rarely ever true, but gender neutral sadness is completely welcomed and encouraged to talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 02:40 AM
3

Can you give me an example of something emotional you wish (or have) you could bring up to a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 02:33 AM
3

That’s not what communism is. You’re referring to authoritarianism, in general, which can exist on the left or right.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 02:25 AM
1

That data tracks with many of the other studies I’ve seen. Too many people keep repeating that women lie or that men lie but most people don’t even know with certainty how many partners they’ve had. It’s an approximation for everyone. Hence, since some people overestimate and some people underestimate, the average is likely true in the final reported results.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 02:23 AM
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It’s not about precautions. My thesis is that: Women give the benefit of the doubt to men harassing them and assume they won’t go totally nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 02:20 AM
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Men who push and do things like that to begin with are not men who I want to be with. Those are statements/actions that should never come up in the first place. Workable disagreements are like where to buy a house or whether to get a dog or maybe he said something slightfly off in a fight. Anything that even hints at control or abuse is an immediate cause for dissolution of the relationship. In my experience, these things have always gotten more pronounced over time, not less.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 02:18 AM
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Well I guess some women are socialized to like that. Thankfully, she’s in the extreme minority who wouldn’t be grossly offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 02:10 AM
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No you said in your comment I wonder if women are more likely to have this doubt about men they’re attracted to than men they’re not attracted to. I’m saying it’s the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 04:59 PM
1

Does she know you think these things? I mean verbatim what you’ve said here, have you said to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 02:56 PM
1

It looks like considering every time your boundaries were even slightly violated, like if your partner bringing up sex acts you said you didn’t want to do, even if he doesn’t physically pressure you into them, or calls you a nickname you don’t like, or talks about women (including exes) in a way that is sexist or misogynist, talking badly about one of your friends, etc. Those are random red flags that don’t yet constitute abuse or bodily harm but very well might forebode it. In many relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 02:21 PM
1

I don’t know where you get that narrative from. Women give all sorts of men the benefit of the doubt, if anything they do it more to men they’re not attracted to. For example, if a guy keeps pestering you and you want him to go away, you’re thinking in your head “well he’s definitely being creepy but there’s no way he’ll actually do anything so I don’t really have to worry.” In reality, that man could be ready to act out some violent revenge fantasy but we literally tell ourselves oh that only h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 02:16 PM
1

Polls and statistics, the millions of them cited in this very sub showing amount of partners for women in various age cohorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 02:13 PM
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If you were to break up would you view her as used up, damaged, degraded, etc. by virtue of her having had sex with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 02:12 PM
0

See my reply to the other guy.
/r/MGTOW203/02/21 02:09 PM
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big horny smile on his face You just proved my point for me. A man with a “big horny smile” is exactly the kind to make a sexually charged comment at a woman just walking down the street. He wasn’t going to politely proposition her for a date.
/r/MGTOW203/02/21 02:08 PM
2

Coffee date is like a business interview. It’s far too casual for a potential relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 09:04 AM
3

But you don’t feel that you did something to her by fucking her?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 08:43 AM
1

I’ve never dated a man who complained about paying or refused or anything. Only on Reddit do I see this type.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 08:30 AM
2

Do you go on drink only dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 08:21 AM
3

You failed to understand that u/SmurfESmurferson ‘s point was that women would choose singledom over unhappiness, not that women think their happiness is paramount to all of their responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 08:04 AM
1

Have you been to college? The promiscuous women are just the most visible because you see them out on the weekends or popping in and out of random dorm rooms. But they’re a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 07:52 AM
3

Do you oversimplify everything you read or just feminist theory?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 07:43 AM
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That’s not what happened in the ad at all. The guy was getting ready to cat call a woman on the street and his friend stopped him. Maybe rewatch it.
/r/MGTOW203/02/21 07:31 AM
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It’s not neuroticism. It’s just not giving the “benefit of the doubt” to men. If there’s a doubt, women should believe it and err on the side of that doubt instead of convincing themselves there’s nothing to it. There’s no need to be neurotic about it, there’s just a need to have a lower threshold for avoiding certain men. Many women don’t stay locked up in their houses and still date but keep this mindset alive. Furthermore, your mention of bad neighborhoods and being out drunk by yourself is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 12:46 AM
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There is no crying wolf. It’s essentially saying, if there’s a doubt, err on the side of that doubt instead of second guessing yourself. You can only protect yourself that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 12:43 AM
2

Yes. Okay glad we’re on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 05:35 PM
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They may not be the “nice guys” of Internet parlance, but they are the seemingly respectable men who blend into polite society. They’re not lurking in alleys, like most men would like women to believe. Telling women to worry about “nice” guys, whether the Internet variety or the literal variety, can only help women, but might paint men with an overly large brush. But being overly cautious will never be bad advice for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 05:31 PM
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Yeah, the majority of men aren’t rapists. That’s true. That has nothing to do with what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 05:21 PM
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The men in prison for rape are the stranger rapists, which are the extreme minority of rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 03:56 PM
1

Red flags aren’t dropped immediately. Some people give really good first impressions. Especially if you don’t know them very well, you won’t know how they react to disagreements or criticism, because you’ve never disagreed with or criticized them before. Most men? No. But I don’t know which men will. It’s like if you have a bucket of 100 skittles and one is filled with anthrax, I’m not taking that risk. But this whole point is moot because I’ve learned my lesson and I just don’t interact with me…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 01:36 AM
1

You don’t know if they take retribution on you until they do, obviously. Do you know how many guys start out appearing completely normal and then you have a disagreement on something and they completely change?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 01:53 PM
1

Yeah but my orgasm is also better when masturbating, unlike men’s, so why on earth would I look for a guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 01:52 PM
2

Three things: Women aren’t wired to be passive either. It’s entirely socialization. Women do communicate their desires and they’re often met with “I don’t do that” or “I don’t know how to do that.” Wouldn’t men just want their partners to enjoy themselves or are they really that self-centered?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 01:51 PM
2

It’s sexist against women because the clubs treat us as lambs to the slaughter. We’re literally bait for men to come in and spend money trying to get us drunk and take advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 06:38 AM
2

It can be but it usually isn’t. I’ve had a fair amount of casual sex and only twice did I orgasm, and it was with the same guy. Meanwhile, I can orgasm fairly quickly and easily while masturbating so go figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 09:16 PM
3

Yeah but why can’t they just be naturally inquisitive?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 09:05 PM
2

Girl same. Totally gave up on it years ago and I rarely ever miss it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 09:03 PM
1

Fear of retribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 08:47 PM
1

Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 08:46 PM
4

The sanest comment on this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 02:22 PM
1

You clearly don’t live in any of those cities because you’d know that’s a Fox News narrative. If the city was burned down, millions would be displaced. Only a handful of buildings around the country were burned, it’s really not a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 12:35 PM
2

But it isn’t. A man wouldn’t even know a woman had PCOS or endo unless she told him or they already were in a long relationship. It’s not detectable upon a first meeting. And men don’t even know what these things are so I doubt they’re thinking about them when assessing who not to date. I just don’t see how it even remotely relates to dating woes for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 03:58 PM
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Fun fact, lots of women have those things without having PCOS. I’m not exactly sure what your whole point is with this thread because it seems to keep shifting. With all due respect, you don’t really seem to know what you’re talking about wrt to women’s medical issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 03:48 PM
0

Who is insurrecting? It’s not BLM...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 03:37 PM
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Periods aren’t inherently painful? Wow I must’ve missed that memo. At the very least, periods come with hormone induced muscle contractions, bloating, and constipation or diarrhea. All of that is naturally painful lol. As for PCOS, most cysts are painless unless they rupture. Most of the discomfort from PCOS is not related to menstruation. It’s related to associated symptoms like lower metabolism, hirsutism, and acne.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 03:24 PM
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PCOS?? Tons of women have painful periods. Periods are inherently painful. If you have PCOS, you’re less likely to get a regular period in the first place, not have a painful one. You might be thinking of endometriosis wrt extremely painful and heavy periods. Also, while certain conditions can lower women’s fertility, fertility is not a well understood enough topic to draw broad conclusions about. And it definitely doesn’t indicate anything about a woman’s lack of genetic fitness or societal/rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 03:10 PM
4

Gossip and ruthless judgment of other girls’ appearances. (I’m very guilty of this too.)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 02:51 PM
5

We know; we obviously find people we’re attracted to quite often.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 09:25 AM
1

Yeah like 21% of American men are 5’7” or below. I’m positive not all of them, not even the majority, are struggling with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 12:09 AM
-1

Many men say that tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 08:08 AM
3

That’s mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 07:58 AM
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The thick look is in, dudes like that for some reason
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 07:55 AM
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First off, I haven’t dated in a long time but I used to date older guys, who didn’t live at home anymore, and I only saw disgusting behavior in one of them. Second, my same age friends had those bad experiences in the past and 2 of them are now in really great loving relationships with clean guys. Everyone else is happily single and not dating anymore. So we pretty much have it handled.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 07:43 AM
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I don’t see it in my own life, I only see it in other women’s lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 11:54 PM
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I don’t date men like that. The minute I see something gross I leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 11:52 PM
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First off, it’s not a few. Secondly, the idea that women should be maids for men is what’s being attacked here, not specifically that men are unclean.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 11:49 PM
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Hoarding is such a small subset of the population, a symptom of a mental disorder, that you can’t possibly say it’s representative of women as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 11:44 PM
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Lol what? Why on earth would you stay in a marriage if it’s doing nothing for you? Is that what marriage is supposed to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 10:55 PM
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I don’t think women do that. They don’t divorce perfectly good guys. It’s just the PPD conception of a good guy is radically different from a woman’s perception. Also you guys fail to take into account how frustrating and unsatisfying it is to be in a relationship with a man who is emotionally distant, expects you to do all the housework, and is lazy in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 06:59 AM
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Your boyfriend sounds like a dream. Especially in the intelligence and attractiveness departments.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 10:27 AM
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assisting her to tend to the kids Wouldn’t those be your kids too?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 10:24 AM
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Yes I felt this way a few times in the past. Let me take a moment to respond to a point I saw earlier in this thread: Women aren’t children so why are you saying they have no agency. Yes, women are not children, but in my experience the women who have the biggest issue with asserting themselves are younger (teenagers and early 20s). Depending on your life experiences, that’s still very young and that’s before you gain enough experience to begin to release yourself from societal expectations, nam…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 10:13 AM
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I object to classifying leaving a relationship and then getting into a new one as branch swinging. People (women and men) trade up or they trade down, it’s pretty random.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 04:19 PM
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Never seen it or heard of it in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 08:59 AM
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The qualities you listed are necessary but not sufficient for sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 08:54 AM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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