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The dudes we are referring to don’t have that luxury. They are the 80% of men forced to court in order to have a prayer of a sex life. Be real
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:50 PM
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You completely contradict yourself. Lots of women are objectified even though they are 3s and 4s… they still have a dude who will invest in them because he wants sex. Regardless of how unattractive most women are, if men didn’t want to fuck, there would be ten times as many women literally invisible to them. Its all relative.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:58 PM

Good call. Everyone has some uniqueness in neurodivergence. It’s usually women who get anxiety from clutter but it is not 100% the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:49 AM
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This delusion is pervasive and propped up by women’s own solipsistic delusion that their own view of a happy home is the only correct one. The simplest analogy is the way a guy will line up his supplements and protein powder on the counter so it is accessible and the woman will shove it all in a cupboard so she doesn’t have to see it. On his own, the guy prefers to live conveniently but sacrifices that efficiency in a relationship to offer the woman a clutter free space. But the woman ignores an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:29 AM
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The main difference is wording and absolutism of labels. Nobody wants their identity to be reduced to their usefulness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:02 PM
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Definitely true… the distinction is not sex vs abstinence but gratification vs validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:15 PM
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Everyone wants to feel like their lover can't live without them. It is never true or at least can't go both ways though... if one of them really feels that way it shows and the other will get sick of it fast. Both men and women have to dance for it to be a fun dance. Push pull MF whether you are the guy or the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:11 AM
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The fact of life you simply refuse to accept is that in general a man has no reason to start a long-term anything if the sex is bad. It's essentially the minimum requirement for him to feel any incentive to invest. Very few men actually do not care about being invested long-term. It is just easier for women to write off a guy as "shallow" than to face the fact that they weren't interesting enough for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:21 AM

Good
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:54 PM

Lesson one: the most valuable feeling for a man is to be appreciated. Society makes them feel like cannon fodder, so any genuine appreciation feels like validation from the gods. Lesson two: even the best “good” men will do things that feel good. If he doesn’t think he is hurting or abusing anyone, he will step in and make the best of a situation where he can be the hero. If there is a vulnerability or a neediness, he doesn’t see a problem with being what fills that need… so whether or not you r…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 03:17 PM
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Yeah it’s just that most men are not visually attractive so more men think women don’t lust for men than do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 03:00 PM
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You just showed why it’s a wasted of breath. OP could have just said “keep going” and it would have been more insightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 01:52 AM
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But humans are animals, and if you ignore instinct you will just end up frustrated and confused (and ignorant). We are lucky to have the concepts of ethics, but knowing what motivates us instinctively helps us understand why things trend the way they do and how to balance those appetites with the ethics we want to promote.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 07:15 AM
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Obviously this sounds wonderful and all, but if you think about it… its wild to actually say this in a world where the vast majority of people either never find a good relationship or are never able to date at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:40 PM
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And being a somewhat older man does?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 01:18 PM

That's only because it's his second marriage and he isn't as much of a dumbass who will tolerate a toxic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 05:49 PM
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And Bill Gates didn’t marry a girl from a trailer park. Is that what you think proves your point? Leo DiCaprio might care that his girls didn’t “drop out of high school” and I am sure it matters to him that they have a character and probably work ethic, but it’s not the same thing as a diploma. A successful man typically does not give a shit about her specific education.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:59 PM
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Your take is hyper-fixated on traditional upper class men with ivy league families and outrageous prejudices. Modern hypergamy values ambition, money, media status, and social influence before ivy league status. More men than ever at every stratum are self-made, and virtually none of them care about your piece of paper whether male friend or dating option. More and more what matters (and should) is your character traits including reliability, self-reliance, sense of responsibility, health, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:23 AM
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Absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 10:26 PM
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As usual, take any trait that could possibly be considered negative or fake and assume the absolute worst, fakest imitation. It’s a fact that assertiveness and decisiveness are attractive. Nobody said anything about playing the alpha just don’t be a doormat or a boring, chronic “idk, whatever you want” either. It goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 05:02 PM
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So you are a woman like any other. Attracted to leadership but with a tendency to crave control. As long as it doesn’t lead to your man becoming a doormat and losing your interest. Healthy is somewhere in the middle where you have a confident guy who doesn’t roll over but doesn’t have a problem giving you that sense of control over your situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 03:28 PM
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Not the only planner you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 03:19 PM
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Then I wasn’t criticizing you and you have no reason to be defensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:01 PM
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This is far from a gendered thing. Just because your man can’t remember to clip his nails doesn’t mean all men are babies and women are the standard bearers. We all have standards. Mine started biting her nail glue more and more and it was on me to politely remain consistent that this is repulsive and makes others cringe (including me). So far it is not worth breaking up over since she ends up going to the bathroom and “taking care” of whatever it is, but if she chose to continue next to me it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:12 AM
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Agree with both of you in sentiment, but this is the thing: if you “need” flowers on a regular schedule and will break up otherwise, then it’s on you to communicate that sometime before year four or you are a deceptive scumbag. If you never cared, but now after several years you have a new need, then that is your choice, but don’t be surprised if the guy laughs at you. It is an unreasonable thing to suddenly need to feel loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:06 AM
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I feel like i have always dated women who had no trouble bringing up a food spot or activity they heard about and we just went and did it, but I know there are women out there who expect him to decide or suggest everything… maybe because they also expect he will pay for everything the do together. Which sounds like humility at first, but then they track how long he’s been fine eating instant ramen and playing video games and they can’t hold in their irritation at not getting spoiled (like some c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 10:30 AM
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Your attitude sounds good but the majority of women act entitled to far more than that. Snuggles and sweet nothings satisfy most men (as long as you are sexual of course), but when women complain about not getting romanced enough it’s never about snuggles it’s about one-way, material, risk-taking stuff a man has to do that shows all her friends that he needs her (because that’s what its really about). No matter how chill and cool a girl seems at first at some point they all complain about not [g…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 10:23 AM
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Because a person can be self sufficient. The only reason anyone “needs” a sexual relationship for sex. Literally everything else is applies to best friends as well. We share all these things with lovers because it’s mutually beneficial and also convenient for lovers to be a best friend. But requiring something of someone else always feeds resentment, no exceptions. Even when it’s necessary to share responsibility like when you have children, it is best to minimize the things you demand of the ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 10:11 AM
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In the Disney reality…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 10:03 AM
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This pretty much. The average dude gets oneitis and blows one girl up into a goddess in his imagination (and convinces him to marry and stay married decades into dead BR). The more ambitious (whether actually chaddish or not) pursue the soft harem… though it almost never works, the dream is converting women into cock-addicted sex slaves one by one. Both of these dreams end up dissatisfying the vast majority of women but the vast majority of women still find themselves on the receiving end of one…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 02:39 PM
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Yea… he doesn’t give a fuck about you. It’s rare that people are actually clueless humans… that’s just easier for you to live with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:53 PM
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Googles “how to conduct a train”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 11:26 AM
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This sounds neat and tidy but the truth is, everyone puts on their best face when flirting, including the women. The amount of men who are literally lying to get laid is not a huge majority nor is it more than the amount of women lying about themselves. It actually takes balls and some sociopathy to take off the ring or tell her a long story about your imaginary career and most men are not actually doing this. Most people are just making the best of their situation, both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:16 AM
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This is exactly how people need to look at it. RP isn’t a worldview that includes any ideal lifestyles or instruction on how to be happy at every stage of life. (Most of us do not want to be alone when are old and falling apart, and monogamy is generally the best way to have that.) RP is just a set of realizations that can inform our success in the game of attraction. Mainlining RP might give us lots of sex, but it won’t get us to that happy old age we are hoping for. It also doesn’t help to hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:01 PM
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That is why they do not label themselves blue pill, they are labeled such because they deny what others see clearly. Whether it’s true or not, when someone considers their eyes opened, they see deniers as willfully ignorant, and when they disagree, they expect the others to come up with some data refuting the theories they are proposing. But in this case, 90% of what RP identifies as BP doesn’t even know there’s a debate happening, which makes it interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:00 PM
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Here yes but the OPs topic is all about demand, like “this is one of my dealbreakers”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:14 PM
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Obviously lack of reciprocity lets that desire dissipate. We adapt to our situation. But what you call bad sex is mainly lack of reciprocity not lack of fancy tricks. The point is the “technical” bar is pretty low when both people are attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 01:54 PM
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We don’t care if they laugh they don’t even understand what they want. Didn’t you learn anything 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:19 PM
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When you twist and misquote everything you just show the world you don’t get it. Women will love you, but not the way a man does when he gets one-itis. It is one of the biggest blue pill myths, that the right woman will just be obsessed with you no matter how fat and lazy and insecure and low you get.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:02 PM
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Only true in the sense that “being RP” means being a natural with women. But even so, naturals often get oneitis and fall quickly into simp territory when they don’t consciously realize the game. RP was just an aha set of concepts that unlocked the ability in my nearly-virginal self who was clueless with flirting and dating to be able to play the game “like a natural” and also keep my eyes open for the pitfalls the come with transitioning to monogamy and so on. Yes it can be exhausting or painfu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:39 PM
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He could have worded it better but OPs question is relevant. RP can be so much information it’s hard to know what you are getting into until you’ve read it all. On top of that, “what is redpill” has so many bullshit answers on IG and YT right now that it matters to hear normal men give the real, simple, practical answer. RP is a collection of realizations that helps inform men why their romances all died and how they can reverse it by improving themselves. If all people know is what they hear ou…
/r/MarriedRedPill16/01/26 05:56 AM
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Absolutely. Both technology and human sympathy have thwarted evolution to the point where major birth defects and “idiocracy” are continually passed on to new generations. None of my comment is a judgement call, just an observation that we are not necessarily better off with the way we replicate ad nauseum.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 01:13 AM
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The point is no one should feel guilty about others “losing” the game of reproduction. As a human who has sympathy beyond that of animals, I prefer to see people succeed beyond the hand they are dealt, but I cannot afford to worry about every last person passing on their own genes. In the most pragmatic sense, no one benefits from garbage being replicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:38 PM

Probably a psychological key to getting over the ego bond with size. It’s pretty much something that is built in and also reinforced by so much in the media as well as the sheer amount that women blurt out “my ex was so small” and so on. Everyone denies the importance but actions and loose comments undermine that. The only solution to a psychological insecurity is probably focusing on healthy positive perspectives and growing more confident and secure in healthy traits, but of course it is easie…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:55 PM
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That’s a real one at the end… in movies they always have some douche talking about how he fucked some chick this way or that but it’s not real. Not in several decades of military and college life have I heard that kind of thing… you will get the odd “she had some big ass titties” but rarely more invasive than that. Whereas I don’t think I have had one girlfriend who did NOT blurt out something about their ex’s dick size (both positive and negative) in a bar full of people, and that’s just what t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 09:42 AM
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Start by learning to spell, use correct grammar and voice, and then maybe you can get around to knowing what you’re talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 12:56 AM
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Yeah not bullshit in that it never works. Bullshit in that it’s not worth it. Miserable outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:34 AM
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Where is the red pill in this? Have a job and be patient? All you said is basically hook up with girls who are partying and then leave them… You guys are the reason nobody takes the time to consider the actual insightful parts of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:46 PM
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You can’t even read. The Starbucks employee is the guy who gets dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:58 AM
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What is a billionaire model and what is this notion of a woman approaching a man… did we drift into another dimension 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:34 AM
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It’s certainly unhinged but not because you were able to marry your best and avoid it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:42 AM
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So?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:41 AM
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He grasps only the surface level of “alpha widow” and it is a vignette. This is like a scene from a romance novel but ignores how complex female attraction is. It’s a reality, some women are blown away by an amazing guy and he leaves them to pine and it spoils a lot of their future relationships for the men they have to settle with. But the key is true deep conversion (seeing a guy as alpha) is never at first sight. Women don’t become obsessed without experiencing behavior and the “good in bed” …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:06 AM
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She did not keep doing it. Read what she said.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 06:45 AM
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All you are saying is you are lucky (not that it’s a bad thing).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 06:43 AM
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You can argue efficiency til you’re blue but enforcing respect was absolutely codified by men to keep women “in line.” I agree the most masculine approach is to only expect respect on an individual basis, but the majority of men (and “the patriarchy”) do not all behave this way either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 09:02 AM

You are literally the only one singling out women. We both were saying that insulation from criticism makes people shittier… that’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:36 AM

This is spot on. I generally stay away from both left and right for deep reasons, but at least true leftism is about the working man (and woman, even the bloodthirsty soviet communists were more progressive about gender than others). The mainstreams of left and right today are just power seeking, naturally oppressive movements that take surface level inspiration from socialism and conservatism and just warp the shit out of them to fit whatever narrative is popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:03 AM

Women can behave like spoiled children just as easily as anyone. Why would you immediately assume they are the ones vulnerable to being wrecked by insulation from criticism? Sounds like a you problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:56 AM
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Not always the case but always means your chances are better. No guy can detect whether the girl he is dating is one of these 5% to whom “men’s looks honestly don’t register.” He is much better off assuming she is a typical woman who at least is influenced by good looks. And when he is gauging whether she is into him, it is still more practical for him to invest in the girl who lights up and jumps his bones. The girl who “might” warm up to him over time does exist and perhaps in far greater numb…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:02 PM
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You described an autistic man but not a typical man. This is the most ignorant take I have seen today. Unless it’s massively sarcastic?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 09:29 AM
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Daily reminder not to give up the game gents! This is so crucial and easy to forget as a male… explication almost always works against your success with women. Every stupid thing Ive ever said to a woman was completely rational in my mind, but is now burned into my memories because of the backfire. In the male brain things always seem like they can be solved logically but maintaining attraction and generating enthusiasm in a woman is not something you can shortcut with logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 08:05 AM
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The dread is so real they can’t bear to face the mere theory of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:12 PM
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Confidence =/= bragging and shoving your ego in their face
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:11 AM
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Yeah I definitely don’t ask questions I don’t want to hear answers to. I would love to say I am “above” caring about the past, but it’s more that there is nothing to be done about it… I still prefer she doesn’t have a long bloody trail, but interrogating her would only make me obviously insecure which is actually worse for the relationship than her past.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:42 PM

Those are not friends if you are hiding your dating life from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 11:43 AM
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Nonsense. You intentionally twisted the words. People who care about you don’t ask for you to prove yourself. People whose opinion you care about… but really that is not the important point. Having value to society requires hard work for men. Most men are expendable to most women, while most men will drop everything to help out most woman. We can debate motives, of course, but our experience is very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:37 AM
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And yet somehow I am capable of seeing the spectrum of human experience. Noticing that certain things are unique to males and females does not mean men are the “victims” anymore than you can honestly call yourself the “victim.”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:43 PM
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Well you clearly haven’t lived a day in a man’s shoes… you also have an incredibly hard time with basic logic. Just because someone has to work for everything doesn’t mean they think they deserve to have everything handed to them. Sounds a lot like bi-polar rationalization to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:04 PM
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Lol not ignored by strangers… ignored like treated like your opinion and existence is worthless without you striving to accomplish and prove your value to each person whose opinion you care about. And never being completely undesired sexually without hard work, learning game, and sticking your neck out constantly only to face rejection 90% of the time. Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t switch myself, and I don’t have it as bad as average guys, but even I experience the constant burden of proving my…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 11:40 AM
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You are just using the word wrong to try and undermine the gender difference. The most contextually attractive female is bot necessarily the one who is followed (literally the only reason anyone bothers to use the word alpha).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 04:00 AM
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I disagree that this is real feminism at all… I would say the majority of women opportunistically co-op feminism as it suits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 03:53 AM
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Obviously the brightest star relative to the rest of the sky is noticed first. The language here specifically refers to the alpha or “mean girl” in the inverse sense, the person whose will most of those around submit to either explicitly or inadvertently. This is automatically attractive to women when it is a male dynamic but the “mean girl” is not more attractive to me by having influence over other women. She is only the most attractive if she happens to be the hottest physically as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 03:13 AM
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You don’t get the conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 03:03 AM
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The motivations and dynamics are definitely asymmetrical. Women are usually the ones who push for LTR in my experience, even when they are hot and could easily be the girl version of chad. Whereas men will fall into monogamy and then think everything is fine or try to keep it together forever even when its clearly a dogshit relationship mainly because we have an obsession about succeeding in it… as opposed to women when they come to view their man as a loser have zero problem torpedoing the rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 01:06 AM
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They will act like they appreciate it, and of course they are relieved when it doesn’t require effort on their part, but the reality psychologically, is that they are always thrilled to be the reason for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:31 PM
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Of course? It’s kind of tongue in cheek really… but doesn’t really matter. If both parties play their parts then nobody gets hurt… guys want to fuck everyone they “notice” and if they don’t, it makes their women proud. Girls want to be see as pure and innocent, and if they do the opposite only with their man, he is proud… and there is no cause for either to be ashamed for their fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:29 PM
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WTF is this post… just a rant about most people are shit at relationships and “life happens”. Take gender out of it and it’s still true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:24 PM
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Being bad with him is not about body count it is about submission to his fantasies. Submitting beyond her comfort zone is a choice she makes that is extremely hot to a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:05 AM
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Most women, especially monogamous women, are not as eager as they could be and most are not completely open to doing whatever their man wants. It’s not exciting that she merely “lets him fuck”.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:03 AM
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Yea all women want to be the beauty who tamed the beast. Younger girls just don’t see the signs of impossibility as easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:01 AM
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90% of it is definitely confidence/charisma and that goes hand in hand with perceptiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 11:45 AM
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To her. You would be surprised at some of the guys women think are hot. There’s a whole cliché about the short guy sleeper who is somehow always taking girls home. The point here is looks are only a fraction of hotness to women so just telling men to be hot is only confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 08:16 AM
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And the principal that women are not property. What a concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:36 PM
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Well said, interesting, and highlights the difference in our perspectives, since most open-eyed men would rather fall into that latter category because at least they know they inspired enough attraction to hookup when there’s no chance you were simply trying to draw them into a relationship. The foundation to all this is it’s almost a given that a woman wants to lock someone down but not necessarily a given that she wants to fuck (at least from a male perspective because honestly all he knows is…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:29 PM

The key difference is whether emotional scars become strengths or baggage. Lots of men have baggage at 30, but that doesn’t discount the question. The goal of men should be to be mature and grow from struggle rather than jaded or emotionally broken, but also to consider the likelihood a potential mate is going to be beneficial for us or not. And of course the question here is the woman’s age. It’s our business to age well and our business to consider the odds of that woman who is our age… aging …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:09 PM

Do you also tell men to stop looking for an LTR once they are 40? “you never know of she is only into you for your success” Your entire argument is based on fear of dying without enough partying (which disqualifies you in the eyes of good men) and paranoia about creepy men (who just exist and do not disappear because you make it to 29 years old before dating).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:53 AM

Do you also tell men to stop looking for an LTR once they are 40? “you never know of she is only into you for your success”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:49 AM

The sexual attraction fades like everything physical. His point was and has been this whole thread that there is more to faithfulness and loyalty than sexual attraction. You guys are just obsessed with disagreeing you fixate on irrelevant aspects… straw men he isn’t even arguing about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:15 PM

What advice? It is analysis and only analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:04 PM
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Even when the man files it’s usually the woman who sabotages things. She stands to benefit and he stands to lose everything. And this is on top of the fact that men are more likely to be obsessed with fixing a hopeless situation. It’s our brand of obstinacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 01:11 PM
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Yes but we are stepping into another context… love is something spiritual in a way, its what you have for your parents, your children, your chosen partners… but romance, lust, and passion are next to that and these cab be turned off. If you are truly capable of unconditional love, you don’t turn it off when you break up. That’s how you can say “this relationship is toxic but I truly wish them well, continue to have compassion and good will to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 11:45 AM
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Thats a completely different conversation. Dudes who call her mid mainly just feel cool saying it. It’s true she doesn’t have the objective “extreme” look that supermodels are usually selected for, i.e. she looks like a human who could live next door… but that is what makes her more likable. Identifying that “ugly” people are oddly capable of lusting for each other just as genuinely as two models can come from the same clout craving but it can also just be an honest observation that humans are e…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 09:02 AM
0

Desiring variety is not toxic. It is evolved.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:04 AM

The word in my mind comes from Christ-like love. The greek texts used a few different ones we just mashed into one word.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 03:48 PM

I have unconditional love for exes who abused me. It doesn’t mean they get to be near me it just means my love was a gift and my goodwill doesn’t end because they fucked up. There’s love and then theres love and then theres love. Red-pill generally acknowledges that Disney love (infatuation leading to soulmate magic) is bullshit, and emphasizes the value of pragmatic love (I will take care of who takes care of me), but there is no reason to throw out the one in the middle… the one that’s really …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 08:53 AM
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That’s my point. It’s not a power game, mostly. Yes women are complaining about men who wont lead. No they don’t mean they miss being bossed around. They mean men are trending less and less assertive and confident. You are free to have fair and open conversations about whats for lunch, like most of us do anyway. But OP (and the women who say “where are the leaders”) are not talking about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 07:44 AM
1

Yea nobody dislikes being asked what they like. They dislike indecisiveness and inability to take risk. They want a man with confidence and it takes confidence to surprise them with a date or a new home cooked meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 01:27 PM
1

Same thoughts… sometimes I wonder if it was the act of opening my eyes to the world (pilling) or call it just growing up that made it seem impossible to ever go back to that, but the very-much-naive infatuation you are capable of as a teenager is something I think we all end up wishing we could have again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:37 PM
1

Where’s my popcorn… But seriously it’s the age old question. Everyone can see there is merit to intimacy and love and building something with someone, but “married game” is always playing on hard mode. What if anything is the key to finding married excitement for a man? Or is it always a trade-off or even just holding back the sea for as long as you can until you die or give in and [move on].
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 01:32 PM
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I am saying it’s unnatural for a man to think that way because a man wants sex whether or not he’s going to marry a woman and give babies. Sex is a win/win for men biologically so to make it a whole thing and have rules he enforces is just weird and women don’t respond well to weird. He is always better off playing aloof and yet eager when the vibe is right. Don’t force anything but let things happen as soon as the vibe is right.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 05:31 PM
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This is why the question is total nonsense. Yes if he makes it awkward and bossy saying the quiet part loud she will think he’s strange, controlling, or even insane. And if he never says it out loud but “makes her wait” she will rationalize it all away and convince herself and others that she could have had it all along it just “wasn’t the right moment” for both of them. This is a perfect illustration of solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 04:30 PM
-1

Nature doesn’t want them to procreate. How is this news.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 10:05 AM
1

Equal doesn’t exist, and it’s how men can crave objectification while women will never embrace it as a whole. Just as women crave to be admired for success (boss bitch) and men will always be on their guard when a woman is too interested in his money… There is a yin and yang dynamic based on vulnerabilities that we have evolved with that makes our genders’ stories complementary.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 01:59 AM
1

Found the 5
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:26 PM
-1

The whole conversation is still kind of rooted in a 50s context. The majority of people who do unusually well in today’s economy are operating in a first world bubble… running online businesses, or catering to elites who have preposterous money to throw ay whatever consultants or services they need. He is thinking more of the few women who get there by powering through to ceo in the old style and are not attractive to men not because they have success but because of the bullheaded self-involved …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 09:08 PM
1

Exactly! What else is seduction? You gotta demonstrate who you are beyond the first glance, because everything else is usually more powerful in the end.
/r/seduction07/07/25 04:35 AM

No shit. Don’t mindlessly be any extreme or you will miss out on vibing with a normal person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 02:12 PM
3

This is what reinforces that it is not a need per se… the very few who are actually as happy as they say are most certainly just lucky to have that mental adaptability that lets them enjoy what they have in front of them i.e. no grass-is-always-greener gene.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:27 AM
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True but “getting over” someone is also a complex spectrum. You can have the most inexplicable feelings about the girl who was nowhere near the hottest or “best” girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:28 PM
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It’s not “the” line though because only a certain group of women actually stay after a guy blatantly cheats. Unless you literally want to say choosing broken women is part of what makes an alpha alpha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 11:51 AM
1

You don’t want to be that “rare” few who succeed in wearing down a woman who isn’t naturally attracted. Trust me it’s not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 09:13 AM
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There is a difference but it’s entirely confused because men are stupid enough to think they can wear down a woman over time until she “realizes” she is attracted back. The whole friendzone issue is men failing to understand the basics of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 09:03 AM
0

True. It’s always easier to manipulate a guy who doesn’t know what he’s missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:27 AM
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I remember when i had a bodycount of one and she was a serious GF and that’s interesting because yes even for men there’s a strong element of pair bonding idealism… like even after being mistreated by the first one and having experiences with lots of other (often “better” women), there’s still a strong sense of “so sad that first one didnt work out… she could have been a soulmate ‘if only…’”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:23 PM
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Its not a gendered problem necessarily but the pity party is absolutely gendered. Nobody gives a fuck if i guy says his ex wasn’t good enough but women get all kinds of reinforcement for displaying dirt to the entire internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 06:13 AM
5

…we are not the same
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 08:10 PM

You are grossly oversimplifying this and falsely assigning causation to a correlation. TLDR nobody is going to prison in order to get laid [Mother nature] intends for us to survive, and that depends on ambition, not the propensity to "never hurt a fly" Yes kindness is good for society, but the fact that a prisoner is getting laid more than an autistic gent is not the whole picture. DNA didn't make him a criminal. Being a criminal is correlated with the balls to do something about ones situation …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:34 AM

So?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 07:47 AM
2

Thanks!
/r/TheRedPill20/04/25 04:47 PM
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You are looking to change for the better, which is good. But as a man I will say with zero hesitation I have never and would never commit to anything I haven’t experienced and also would never take a woman seriously who makes it difficult to move to sex because at a certain point, there are unmistakable signs that she is genuinely into me that I need to see to even consider a relationship. That doesn’t mean I have ever fucked a girlfriend on the first date. So if you let those two concepts simme…
/r/seduction20/04/25 06:20 AM
1

Is there still a discord? I need a bit more social contact with clear heads...
/r/TheRedPill19/04/25 01:14 PM
1

Precisely. Hierarchies attract women in real life. Porn cannot do them justice because it’s mainly audio/visual. Romance novels are what you are thinking of… they are considered the female equivalent to porn because they cater to the mental development of hierarchies (and male archetypes). Its much more difficult to do this in a video clip and because women don’t spend nearly as much on porn anyway, the industry just doesn’t focus on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 09:57 AM
0

No one is talking about attraction. The whole thread is about porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 04:13 PM
1

In males. We are talking about why they don’t get obsessed with males in porn 😑
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 11:33 AM
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All these guys calling relationships the end of game are just outing themselves as fakes. Game is not supposed to be a lie. You may have to fake it til you make it, but you still have to make it. Be the game may sound cringe, but it’s true. Be the guy she crushed on just add to it and never stop pushing her buttons. It isn’t just about desperately preventing her from dumping you, it’s about getting enthusiastic road head after years of commitment and/or cohabitation.
/r/seduction15/04/25 07:55 AM
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You are clueless
/r/seduction15/04/25 07:50 AM
1

Thank you for proving several of my points. Everyone prefers good looks that means nothing. The fact that you roll your eyes at male oriented porn’s pathetic attempt to arouse mentally and men’s object-based sexuality are exactly what I am talking about. We are different by nature in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 07:56 PM
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“the team found that being male or female contributes very little to which neural networks fire up in response to visual erotica” What a fucking bombshell 🙄males and females can both process visual stimuli
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 07:53 PM
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Exactly. Women are aroused by vibe far more than things like “the perfect ass” or size comparison and hierarchies of male sexual market value. The most obvious example is how fat hairy smelly husbands still often have their wives screaming because they are manly in their behavior and their wives perceive them as their apex mate. Whereas it is relatively much harder for men to literally not see appearance in the bedroom and find all the arousal they need in a woman’s words.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 07:44 PM
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The simple answer is they don’t prioritize visuals and body type the same way. The male brain tends to be much more stimulated by shape and skin quality like object fixation almost. Women tend to need more psychological triggers which porn is notorious crude at delivering.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:56 PM
1

Well those things are a lot of work but you are right about game.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 11:15 AM
3

These guys “getting dms daily” are lying to you brother. I know the stereotype and it remains because 99% of men conveniently will never “get to experience it” but that’s not how women behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 06:33 AM
1

This is a reflection on women’s rules of attraction in general, not muscles. There is nothing appearance wise that makes any woman immediately crush on you. Even with a super attractive face, more than half of women say they still need to hear him speak or make them laugh or be dressed well or be tall or have a big dick or not be fat or be rich or be (insert ethnicity) etc. before its a yes they would even have a date. Pick any of those traits you can see by looking and the percentage of girls i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 05:55 AM
1

Some do. Is that news?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 05:48 AM

This is a pillar of the pill… men love as an action, a choice. Once we identify something/someone we want to love, we dedicate ourselves to it and sacrifice for it, whereas women typically love based on whether the object remains valuable to them. The exception is children… women are designed to love their own children without question.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 05:34 PM
1

Do you man, but gaming easy prey is not worth it unless you’re literally just trying to bust a slump. If you literally wouldn’t date her you will only feel like shit afterwards (even/especially if you fuck), and you aren’t practicing for the real game which is attracting someone you are actually attracted to. Trust me at least in the sense that I’ve been there, and numbers are only regret when they are attained merely for the sake of numbers. You learn far more from gaming a woman you value even…
/r/seduction01/04/25 05:25 PM
1

We have no idea what he said or what her tone was like, all we know is he approached a 5, which is pretty sus.
/r/seduction01/04/25 05:01 PM
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Tiktoks that insist you must be “politically active” to be dateable are trolling for engagement. You have a few good points like its easier to be an in shape women than for a guy to magically be 6’ tall and have a big dick and make decent money, but your list is also fairly exaggerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 07:22 AM
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Yea it sounds like he’s annoyed by not getting laid and wants to rub it in the girls face as some sort of payback. As if that will incentivize “non boring” sex
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 12:31 PM
2

Of course they do this… hindsight is 20/20. Now maybe MM never agreed with the fully developed RP mindset, but it’s just as likely he just hadn’t had time to realize all the aspects Rollo “uncovered” or whatever. “Revolutionary” thinking is typically just pulling on one logic thread until it all unwinds and you can see the whole picture in a new way and the pioneers of any movement have the disadvantage that there is no one to show them the whole picture before they start writing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 10:05 AM

I love tons of people. I love dozens of them deeply because they are family or old friends… I’ve even loved some of the women I’ve fucked. Men especially don’t need to stop loving one woman before they love another. Love is someone’s worth to you and that doesn’t change just because you meet more people. Do you think I would decide to become exclusive with the one who was barely attractive and continue to act satisfied with only that person for the rest of my life? Try and guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 02:32 PM
41

Oh its a shit test alright. And now she isn’t sure you’re straight
/r/seduction30/03/25 11:21 AM
1

We are telling you not every person is supposed to have a lineage. We are literally sabotaging evolution at every turn when we try to “make dating successful for everyone”. The debate is about biology, not what you feel is justice. Take that to r/sex or wherever.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 08:12 AM

It’s kind of like revolution… when it’s necessary, maybe it’s the only way things improve. When it’s uncalled for, you’re just decapitating people for no reason. Feminism was a necessary revolt against some barbaric legal advantages that men had over women but as soon as they were gone, like you say, whats it for exactly. Part of swapping the blue pill for red is opening your eyes to the post-feminist world. It is no longer necessary and indulging it is catering to abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 01:16 PM
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You’re derailing the question. The answer is his life will be easier even if he is misogynistic. Nowhere in the question did it say he has to be a bigot or an asshole. Of course we would rather our kids be decent but that is not decided by whether he leans misogynistic or simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:31 AM
5

A real man doesn’t need a woman to define what a real man is
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 11:21 AM
8

The pill is knowledge not what anyone “should”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 11:09 AM
2

You are just being over-reductive. Nobody reduces mens value to semen, but a fundamental principle of RP is that men have to put in effort to stand out. Males are not born impressive to the degree that women can be. You yourself listed all the things you look for in a male and they are performance based, not inherent uniqueness. Just to be clear, I wasn’t addressing OP really, just your question about reductionism in men’s value.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 07:34 AM
5

The red pill is 100% about recognition the bleakness of mother nature and giving you the understanding to improve your chances in “the jungle”. It has nothing to do with whether men or women are “better” than the other or blaming anyone for the state of things. It was never more than a toolbox to improve your chances of success in nature as we know it. Ethics and morality are a layer on top of the red pill structure of understanding reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 06:09 PM
1

Dating is the source of and solution to all of life’s troubles… and has been since we were dragging women into our caves by their hair. Technology is definitely making things interesting and comes with new challenges, but we do have it better than ever on the whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 08:23 AM
-1

Are you regarded? You have to BE the alpha because by nature they will not flock to you.
/r/seduction19/03/25 02:44 PM
1

In my experience, definitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 12:06 PM
4

Pretty sure Sterling would say once you’ve shown her a good time, you’ll definitely see more of her and her friends will find out etc. not that this means you explain why the sex WILL be good.
/r/seduction19/03/25 12:06 PM
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True you will never find a circle of alphas who will support you… alphas don’t do that. All you need are fun successful guys who want what you have to offer.
/r/seduction19/03/25 12:01 PM
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And yet they do engage… on a statistically significant basis. All of these arguments read like “I like good men” and I have friends who chose relationship with good men over assholes. But the numbers don’t lie. Assholes still get more chances than anybody else. He’s just pointing out that sexual selection is brutal and realistic, not that women made nice guys lonely on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 11:58 AM
1

Right they are mainly practice for seduction not how to fuck. The act isn’t the goal in itself. TBH you could kick them all out of bed and still get the training without the STDs
/r/seduction19/03/25 03:49 AM
1

Sounds like an old study! 6 figures is nowhere near the threshold. There is a milestone between 100-150 where you can eat and drink just and rarely worry about the dinner bill and then around 200-250 where you can spend all your vacation time traveling comfortably. Don’t ask where the next one is… I’m not buying lambos or anything yet 😆
/r/seduction16/03/25 12:26 PM
1

When men ARE impressive… if they sense he is trying, that is often negated. In the same way, money and resources can be impressive and combined with the right sexual confidence means they enjoy it all, but if they smell that he’s trying to win them with his resources it usually works against the arousal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 10:19 AM
2

This is cart before the horse in my experience. Pound her out well and making crave the dick makes her much happier domestically. Sure you see lots of grumpy, hard working wives, but it’s not the workload that made them asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 07:40 AM
1

Not a lie, but you have to realize that hot includes action and word not just looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 07:38 AM
1

Yea you misunderstand me. I am separating ethical game from impostor game. People that are too smooth are deceivers and thats the point… but just because you’re good at seduction doesn’t mean you are deceiving and a cheater. Unless you literally only see it as trickery, and you are just determined to be the one tricking him into being with you… because you are painting game as something only cheaters can do well and in the same breath say that that is what you want to be better at..
/r/seduction09/03/25 06:52 AM
1

God it’s simple.. historically, a minority of men were strong enough to pull it off and impregnate women like that. They were also likely to be the victors of actual battle. This is what lurks in the shadow of “80% of women desire 20% of men” or however the latest phrase goes The majority of men know they aren’t that type of man; their discomfort with the concept is deeper than just knowing it is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 07:30 AM
0

You don’t want a man who is bad at game, you just want him to not think of or as game. Game is literally just being attractive and desirable in your actions, and the gross aspect is when guys are tricking you by practicing and fooling you on purpose. In the same way, locking down the man you want is as simple as behaving attractively on top of being attractive… and also requires learning about him and giving him what he likes most.
/r/seduction08/03/25 07:13 AM
1

I wonder if part of this (the exotic factor) is vestigial of the conqueror archetype… anybody who is very different and foreign yet successful must have been an “effective invader”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 07:09 AM
1

The fascinating thing from a scientific perspective is that even altruism is “transactional”. People do selfless things because it feels goooood. In other words nothing not even love is selfless or completely unconditional. The difference is the ratio of things that motivate the person and make them feel good or feel satisfaction. “Ideal” romance is still “providing” good sex, adoration, affection, relationship security, and maybe a roof over her head… its ideally a high ratio of emotion to thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 07:04 AM
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Yea it’s exaggerated in MM because PUA is about sensationalism… those guys wanted to sell a brand. In reality, the point is nothing more than to burst an ego bubble where it exists and if the bubble is small, the neg is also small. The vast majority of interaction doesn’t call for an actual “negative” response. Teasing playfully is just showing your confidence and reminding her subconscious that you aren’t her simp and helps maintain a healthy balance. Go off the rails with ‘tism game and you qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:27 AM
2

Being seen as insecure has no consequences if your fetish is mommy dom/rescuers 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 11:17 AM
3

The quality of your friendships takes work. This is not what we are talking about. (Most) Men don’t have orbiters and constant desire… the opportunity for intersex socialization is generally always there for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:27 PM
1

True but kinda a non answer… the most natural answer is children/legacy, but one would assume that’s common knowledge. What comes to mind that is unique? Beyond just money, offspring, stuff…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:37 PM
1

Abusers exist
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 09:09 AM
0

Money doesn’t turn us on. It also isn’t something we enjoy losing. It’s just not sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 09:08 AM
0

Hilariously poor grasp of RP. From day one we’ve identified the phenomenon of women marrying the “provider” whilst jonesin for their high school crush. Also, marriage itself is not an ideal within a red pill mindset either, so you have lost the plot if you think men care who women are choosing to marry in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:02 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:56 PM
1

You have good points but completely miss the fact that looks are only one piece of attractiveness to women. The rest is more difficult to spot because it is behavioral. There will still be a small % of men who have confidence/charm/leadership/defender traits and a giant proportion of men who are insecure in whatever body they find themselves in.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:07 PM
1

It is validation for both sexes but virtually no women have a primal fear of NEVER being worthy of sex. Because some form of male lust always exists for them, they sense a nebulous affirmation in that regard. No matter how selective they are in actuality, they can choose to be single without the existential dread that it is confirming their perceived inadequacy… what virtually every incel feels on a daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:46 PM
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Real love isn’t a thing… its nothing outside our whims
/r/seduction04/02/25 12:22 AM
1

She is on a quest for that one or two supremely confident gym kings who do this kind of thing (interrupt chicks and tease them for walking i.e. calling them out for this exactly)… if we are honest, one if the top trainers or competitors or the literally gym owner… and they don’t have any trouble attracting the 9s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 07:15 PM
1

Reading and cooking won’t hold a candle to the thrill of the hunt.
/r/seduction01/02/25 12:32 PM
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Every woman is looking for the 5% of men with the balls to ignore that risk. What we have here is a failure to face the fact she isn’t hot enough for the 5%
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 12:03 PM
1

Yea and the loudest seem to be drawn to this sub like a magnet… seems like every discussion (including this one) is a cesspool of oversimplification and whining about either the other sex or the other ideology. I miss informative debate…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:26 AM
1

In my opinion, having any interest in what she does on her phone is going to signal insecurity. If you have legitimate reasons to check on her and enforce something like “planning infidelity” then you are probably past the point you could even prevent it. I know this isn’t a solution really, but the point is if she loses enough respect for you that she is capable of cheating, your turn is over and the best thing you can do is care less and be prepared to go in different directions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 12:53 PM
1

“late” I’m only 41 and between mind, muscle, tattoos, life experience, and yes money… I am only having more fun each year. (while in and while out of serious relationships even)
/r/seduction13/01/25 09:50 AM
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Every woman responds to it subconsciously. That’s what redpill is that basic psychology wasn’t. Everyone knows a psycho gf will behave like x or y, but “my wife would never do anything like that”. What makes redpill a recent acknowledgment is understanding that psycho gf wasn’t hitler she was just basic psychology without brakes. These instincts affect all of us and if we can reduce the triggers and negative influences we can guide our lives in positive directions rather than let things drift ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 12:04 PM
12

It’s called red pill because it means opening your eyes (like in the matrix). Once you hear it you can’t unhear it. For better or for worse…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 01:58 PM
-1

They aren’t magic rules they are observations. Also, congrats on being lucky, fortunate and good looking. You aren’t the only exceptional one out there.
/r/seduction02/01/25 10:28 AM

No it’s 100% because when you have children you are less likely to know if they are yours or not. Science made us stingy with our resources and thus legacy. You can say its mean or “unenlightened” to fail to look past this, but it’s built into our bones, so it’s hard to blame anyone for caring about.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 01:44 PM
3

This is the tip of the iceberg, but it’s spot on. Just like with “creepy” what you do is hot or not largely depending on how she already views you. If she already looks up to you, being gently protective makes her fall deeper. Doing the same thing before she is “yours” can look desperate. It is also true that confident men act protective in a very different way than desperate guys, generally, but sometimes there is a fine line between their behaviors.
/r/seduction29/12/24 11:45 AM
1

You absolutely cannot play jealousy games without losing SMV. You are very confused.
/r/seduction27/12/24 12:33 PM

Sounds like you’ve never actually been redpilled. The nature of opening your eyes to human nature means you can never be naive again… i.e. you will never foolishly think you’ve found “the one” and be “in love” the way normal people use the phrase. If your mind is truly opened you can’t just shut it again and find yourself bound helplessly by an emotional idealism. You can feel love, and choose to indulge in it, but you will never really “fall” again. Being “in love” the way its normally used is …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 09:02 AM
0

Dude… often grandads are better parents than real dads. You’re always “entitled” to leave if it’s good for you, but that’s between every couple… if he’s good for your family or not. Every situation is its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:09 PM
0

Usually you do. You do until you dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:52 PM
1

Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:51 PM
-3

He SAYS he feels the same. And sure, maybe yours is awesome… i hope so. The whole point is people lie about their happiness all the time. It’s 99% of instagram. That massive number of marriages that end in divorce… most of them were “happily married” for years before they finally did something about their actual unhappiness. I wish you the best and let’s say you are not in this situation, but everyone sees the married photos and men see just how many (seemingly 90%) of our buddies have dead eyes…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:37 PM
0

True. Sentience is the only way we give up temporary goals for long term ones. But long term goals are a bit different for everyone and tend to change over time for everyone. Adding indefinitely binding legal contracts to a relationship doesn’t make it happier, it makes people act happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:23 PM
-7

You’re the woman though. The perspective here is a man’s. At the most basic, hormonal level, woman are more keen to nest and men are more keen to hunt. We all make sacrifices and most people even convince themselves that they are happy doing what the situation forces on them, but nature doesn’t make monogamy easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:19 PM
1

Simping is just the only word we have for this phenomenon of using money and acts of service “it’s my love language” to EARN affection. Think of it like the unimaginative male default, the male equivalent of showing cleavage for attention. I know the origin of the word, but the thrust of it, in serious discussion, is not a diss on the women, its a critique on male ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 10:09 AM
1

Absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 10:05 AM
7

Dude some guys are just trolling for the hell of it, but the instinct to warn young guys not to be fools is real. Especially if it appears they are simping or susceptible to simping.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:37 AM
1

“Girls, they wanna have not fun” Amirite
/r/seduction11/12/24 06:35 PM
1

Amen sister. I need to lead in theory at least, but I love that she is not passive and always has ideas for things we can do, foods to try, and yes sex stuff… she’s always asking to cuddle or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 07:57 AM
1

Maybe you all can’t hear the dryness in my comments… modern marriage is useless to a man; all risk no actual reward. But if you are going to make that move (say for logistics), you better be damn well sure she’s into you enough that the sex will continue. Sexuality is the most important factor because if you are not compatible now all you have is a document saying you can’t fuck around and a woman who doesn’t want to fuck. Is that better?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 07:41 AM

There are many different levels of “wanting you”. The longer you wait, the more that ratio of immediate attraction can be replaced with relationship attraction, which can but doesn’t always mean less passion. The most aggressive red pill enthusiasts are using it as a mechanism to generate high numbers of lays and/or a high ratio of passion over “provider/protector” vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 08:37 AM
0

You do not. For me, however, sexual compatibility is literally the number one and only non-negotiable requirement to legally bind myself to being sexually monogamous. Think about… marriage can be whatever you want it to be, but technically and legally, it is nothing more than a contract saying you will have sex only with that person (or at least on their terms).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 08:16 AM
1

You don’t care to have sex with your wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 12:07 PM
1

Completely disagree. Men objectify women to different degrees but porn doesn’t make them do it. Porn is detrimental because it works. Like heroin… too great a reward system, too little effort. It doesn’t make you a misogynist on its own, but it can dull your enjoyment of sex and your partner. That is the choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 01:37 PM
11

Doesn’t take eye contact to see that someone is staring at you.
/r/seduction25/11/24 05:35 AM
2

For sure… I’ve definitely dropped 9s just because i was so adamant about the first date lay when in reality its always worth the experience to go on date 2 or even 3 to see the whole dynamic play out. If she’s an 8 or 9 there should be zero shame in not slamming on the first real date. Chalk it up to her having a solid “code” and assume it’s not a fail on your part. Contrary to extreme theory, a lot of girls, especially the 8s and 9s, will not sleep with any man immediately. Maybe if you’re Henr…
/r/seduction22/11/24 05:55 PM
-2

Its not made for men. Its made for other women. Its a whole cycle based partly on what men want and what women think men want. Same with slut shaming. Its women by nature jumping in to represent what they THINK men want or believe about them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 02:09 PM
43

Whoever is more attracted/invested is more disappointed when it’s lost, whether it’s the next day or after ten years. Being an adult is both caring about others and forgiving yourself for changing your own mind. If a different person is better for you that the one in question, you are not evil for acknowledging it.
/r/seduction13/11/24 08:15 AM
1

Connection just means demonstrating your sanity and charisma and good intentions… not specific intentions just that you are fun and not a monster. Literally all it is. With girls you just sprinkle sexual/kinky humor into it. The most important thing she looks for subconsciously when it comes to fucking or not is whether you are cool or might judge. You have to show tact and discretion like you aren’t going to tell all your friends but also openness and interest in trying anything so she knows sh…
/r/seduction22/09/24 08:48 PM
5

The same way with dudes you meet… banter. Dance around the idea that she would die to have your babies, but never address it directly. Even use jokes like “we would make a terrible couple” so she’s feeling hopeful but still completely unsure of what’s going to happen.
/r/seduction22/09/24 01:28 PM
1

Kratom
/r/seduction28/08/24 11:11 PM
1

Which is seductive… even when you are gaming your own wife.
/r/seduction14/08/24 02:15 PM
89

Yea it’s rarely necessary to change her mind about this. More often than not, letting her abide by her standards without fuss just demonstrates that you are a not only a reasonable person but also that you are not desperate.
/r/seduction20/07/24 03:34 PM
1

In terms of social pressure. They are getting more and more social validation for becoming independent whales while men are socially shamed for not being successful (or tall) enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:53 PM
1

If he looked like hemsworth she wouldnt have the balls go get his attention like that. Its actually the more average dudes that tend to have this kind of thing fall into their lap
/r/seduction07/06/24 12:19 AM
2

Ah good call. I wouldn't have the best input for him then. I can't believe it's that much different though... at least I find it hard to believe a gay man is waiting 5 dates before fucking... that's incredibly timid even in a straight context.
/r/seduction06/06/24 03:05 PM
4

Five dates? Lmao she will never get laid unless its a shmuck and then she will resent him anyway.
/r/seduction06/06/24 12:52 AM
0

Fuck off then. You clearly aren’t even reading my articulations. I only came to encourage guys they can compete if they work hard. You apparently just want to find negativity in everything. Y’all want to cope by writing off everything the stars achieve as juicing go ahead. The truth is always more nuanced.
/r/seduction05/06/24 04:05 PM
0

I put on about the same amount of muscle before ever using a needle. Everybody is bedazzled by the “10 lbs” that the screen adds… most actors that look massive are not nearly as big as you think. That said, I never said he’s natty. The point is he never abused it… I’m sure he used some stuff to help bounce back or stay leaner than is usually possible when your lifestyle is as grueling as filming and partying. We know these guys are on good gear, but that means with hard work and good choices, so…
/r/seduction04/06/24 09:51 PM
-34

Horseshit. He’s definitely gifted… tall and attractive, but has no evidence of steroid use (like impossible ratios and kinked veins) and when you see him chubby he’s no “demigod” of aesthetics. Point is he works super hard and most of you can achieve a similar level of improvement physically with the same work ethic.
/r/seduction04/06/24 12:42 PM

Jesus dude choking is not gagging especially I’m sexual terms. At least it’s about control and her ability to feel submissive and at most it’s a little bit of blood flow restriction which gives her euphoria. People can certainly enjoy violence but most of these girls are not talking about violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:24 AM
1

Who are you to say what’s going to last?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 09:00 AM
1

Very different point
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 08:21 PM
3

Yea even the top 1% of men will fuck plenty if women they don’t care for or value simply because the prime directive for a man is to inseminate (whether for real or in spirit). Men may pass over some women they deem low value, but its usually because they smell drama or poor reputation not because they attach their ego to being picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 09:47 PM
-1

This is laughably out of touch. Everyone is competitive but men are by far the more likely to lay their lives down or go out of their way to help a stranger. Women jump in to “defend” each other because they are drawn to drama like moths, not because they give a shit about each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:59 AM
-2

Where is this land of imagination where women look out for each other? Laughable assumption. Even women within “friend circles” notoriously undermine each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:56 AM
1

Yet again, only statistically. Far more men have trouble finding sex but they still desire it so more single men will be “unhappy”. However, within the smaller percentage of people who are able to find sex, the men are happier at least by any metric we can use. I happen to think everyone is more complicated than “happy or not” but Im not forcing nihilism on this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 11:12 AM
1

WTF are you on about. He doesn’t want to “support her” he wants to fuck
/r/seduction15/03/24 10:49 PM

Do you also judge anyone who watches hollywood films? Cuz that’s like 90% of humans with access to the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 02:45 AM
1

I will say that reliance on porn is unattractive for good reason and for women it’s probably a subconscious connection between “jerks off daily” and “cant get a girl” remember preselection works forwards and backwards. If a guy is endlessly single, there must be something wrong with him. It’s also not a bad thing to carry a little guilt if you’re heavily reliant on porn yourself… using it constantly saps your motivation to seek real life experience. Not that every man needs to be fapless, but th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:16 PM
5

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 11:27 AM
1

Men tend to. Women tend to do the opposite, provided they like you. Women are built to subconsciously adapt to the father of their babies. Men tend to lose physical attraction so they will pursue more liaisons. Not universal, it is how we evolved at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 11:57 AM
1

I think that being treated too well constantly must feel uncomfortable to the degree that being dominated feels more “right” to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:39 PM
1

Imposter syndrome. Its not about being smart its about being more successful or powerful than you are wired for. Being knocked down a peg feels normalizing in a strange way
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:17 PM
0

Kings provide. It comes down to motive but everybody is so obsessed with straw men in order to promote their own “side” they cant acknowledge the validity of certain principles or working theories for their own sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 11:23 AM
4

Because they are not for talking 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 02:39 AM
1

Women are just far more sensitive to objectification because it is so common for them to be reduced to their sexual characteristics in the minds of men. If women viewed men in the same manner, constantly fucking guys merely for physical traits alone, the attitudes would be reversed. It's really just that men can easily choose a woman for physical traits and ignore things like personality and women aren't as capable of this type of tunnel vision.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:26 AM
1

K He’s still winning. Most of us would be stupid not to trade places with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 09:03 AM
2

If anything you’re reinforcing his point. JayZ doesn’t have to be monogamous. A man who has his shit together discovers that women aren’t faithful because their man is, they are faithful because he’s the best option and whether he sleeps with other women doesn’t affect that fact. Being jealous definitely does.. or at least signals to her that he is no longer the best option. The bottom line is, a man should choose to act monogamously or not based on how it will affect his woman, not as a needy a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:39 AM
-1

There is no equality and there never will be. There can’t be a point where it “switched” because we aren’t the same and never can be. Even in the dark ages, when women were essentially property, there were laws about how they couldn’t be executed or tortured in the same manner as men were. It depends on the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:43 AM

You realize I was agreeing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:00 AM

Exactly! Women show their shape but never do you hear “damn that girl had just a little bit of her clitoris hangin out her pants. Dickroot is about as far as a guys should go and thats still only when it’s reasonable to be in a swimsuit (shirtless occasions).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:52 PM
-1

It does get better if you train her though. I agree a total lack of variety is a terrifying thing for a man, but while she is passionately learning how to make it good for you it can certainly get better even after some years… especially if you have kinks that require adaptations. It does have limitations though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 07:48 AM
2

1000% There is real grooming out there from the likes of H Weinstein etc. People need to develop actionable hate for that shit not young pretty women they typically just envy. There tends to be an “imbalance” in every single relationship… opposites attracting makes life exciting. TBH the majority of my subs have been older than me, and often just as intelligent, but they choose to submit because it unlocks a different type of passion. To the right woman, relinquishing SOME agency can be extremel…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:06 AM
1

I literally haven’t been in love since i was 13 and even then it was what should call crushes… not even real. As an adult the only amount i am able to love is a gift I give myself and her based on the wisdom in giving it. I can certainly enjoy the euphoria of feeling like we have a wonderful thing going, but it always has the caveat that we continue to be good for one another. “In love” in the traditional sense seems to be defined by the fact that it survives when no amount of logic or reason su…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:21 AM
1

I stopped reading responses because every single one seems to be a knee-jerk against what triggers each person. The point is that women and men have opposing imperatives and theres no such thing as “should men do A or should women do B”. Everyone’s ideal situation requires the sacrifice of the others’ and if you can’t see that well thats why we describe it as blue pill. Closing your eyes to the truth that men are not happy with a Disney princess. The closest you can get to both men and women hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 07:48 AM
7

You’re just wrong all the way from your premise to your conclusion. There are lots of angry men. Being red pilled doesn’t cause this, it only explains it. Start over when you understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:58 AM
2

Well observed and perfectly stated!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 07:04 AM
1

I never picture or desire my foot on anyone’s neck. I sense we apply to the same attitude different descriptors.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 05:34 AM
1

Cool story
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 05:33 AM
1

Bro… women submit because they are turned on… smitten. It doesn’t always have to be an autistic cost/benefit calculus. To indulge you, yes there is a benefit to submission because the highest quality man will appreciate it and value you far more than a chick with too much lip and a poor attitude. The subconscious is always aiming to maximize survival and a male warrior needs primarily a capable sidekick who doesn’t question his plan when life and death are milliseconds apart. Obviously this soun…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 02:41 AM

It’s called white-knighting, and no, it does not get you laid 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 02:03 AM
1

“employed full time” ffs you can’t even compare apples to apples
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 03:05 PM
3

There are stay at home dads and men who work 80 hours a week… thats what average means. Sure you can drill down and compare things as specifically as you want, but overall, men work twice as long as women outside the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 11:27 AM
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You are on the money. Inexperience is not a flaw for a young woman, but in men, especially older men, it will be judged intensely by most women. Young women are at their most valuable point in their dating life and most of them know it… and have no time for compassion about an old man who failed to gain experience for so long.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 12:03 AM
4

Is mopping the floor the most valuable thing a man has to offer? Because some men do that for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 11:16 PM
1

Thorough and spot on sir
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 07:04 AM
2

At some point you learn that being able to pound a 8/9 starfish is nothing like a 7 who adores you. Thats not to say a 9 cant adore you, but show your hand and give up all your cards (monogamy) and that 9 will get sick of your shit in a heartbeat. Its like clockwork. Women strive to earn your devotion but resent it as soon as they have 100%. Think of every game you’ve played where you cant wait to unlock every new ability/weapon/achievement… it’s insanely addictive to chase the end goal, but the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:03 AM
1

Do you date eunuchs so they don’t end up balls deep in randos?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:57 AM
3

The fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:49 AM
3

Happier single? Nailed it. Relationship is a sacrifice for a successful man. Don’t delude yourself. We “settle down” to do things like make babies and when we are older. We don’t need to settle down for steady sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:15 PM

Daddy or Sir… depending on the girl Latest one started going with “your grace” and boy is she a keeper
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:06 AM
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Lukewarm should mean no second date. I never said anything close to that. The ideal is man slightly less invested. You won’t admit it, but these are the guys you crave and love at the same time. This is the only way his behavior will reliably remain independent enough for you to retain attraction through the push pull of a relationship. It always makes me laugh how women have this crystal set of standards they think they need to be happy and still find themselves endlessly in love with the men t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:03 AM
5

1000% I always find better relationships tend to see the woman beside herself for the man, and the man loves her but is not necessarily“head over heels”. The pill makes this clear as day. She feels like he is her hypergamous ideal, and he chooses to make her his focus because his basic needs are met and she treats him better than the rest. As long as she is his type of hot and agreeable/easy to get along with, a man is happy and because men are more likely to sacrifice and dedicate themselves to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:07 AM
2

Eloquently said! For those wondering, even if it sounds humbling as a man, this basically works with any woman… like clockwork. You don’t have to go all in on the mommy thing. Even the ones who call you daddy want to be your comfort and are easily addicted to the latch.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 09:40 AM
1

Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 09:31 AM
1

Honestly dude feminism doesn’t infect everyone to that degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 09:29 AM

Shopping is constantly touted as a hobby on dating apps. I would guess you aren’t experienced from that perspective… swiping endlessly on attractive girls who take pride in their narcissism. You can read about it though. Of course this conversation is broken for several reasons… when the guys here gripe about women, they aren’t talking about all women, but hot women, who tend to be the most proportionately spoiled demographic. On the other hand, women making straw arguments have the 80% of men i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:21 AM
4

The good girl is home. If she’s good enough, you might even forget about fooling around. But if you still do, you get it out of your system and miss her and go back again. You only want bad girls for fucking if that. Theres no “nice life with them, thats what makes them bad. Bipolar, bpd, unfaithful, you can’t live with them. Fools try, but wise men continue to invest in the good girl long term because she will make a good mother and will be priceless when you both get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:43 AM
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Depends on the man, depends on the girl. Your examples check out but in mainly the trashiest men and trashiest women. I know hundreds of people who don't cheat, who are technically loyal, and most of them are "happy" but obviously frustrated as hell in various ways. There are a few, however, who are high quality in most ways, and find ways to keep things exciting, whether it's swinging or simply having a balance of family time and work trips (to places like Ukraine, Israel) etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 11:31 PM
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Because men genuinely desire both bad girls and good girls equally and are not trying to monkey branch. They just want variety in sex partners but almost always save their love for the good girl who is loyal. Girls will pretend to be this way, but often end up saving their passion and their best for the bad guys and the loyal hubby gets their disdain and disrespect. Part of it is women aren’t thinking about how men’s validation is rooted in the sexual passion and not the dutiful routines.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:34 PM
0

Good points. It goes back to the fact that men and women's goals will never completely align. A man wants most to reproduce and a woman wants most the loyalty of her children's father(s). Monogamy is no more "fair" in this regard than polygyny with a man and 2 wives or a man with one wife and a certain amount of freedom to roam. However, monogamy best supports stability of society and of course pacification of all the idle men that polygyny statistically requires.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:28 PM
2

It’s kind of a trick question. It’s like “here’s why it’s tough being a woman in this world, would you change it” and of course every woman will say yes change it. But the reality is most men with means indulge their PHYSICAL prime directive and if the home is stable the deal is still good enough most women prefer to ignore it. Or at least it’s been this way for hundreds of years. Feminism has allowed women to speak up so it’s only more like the top men still getting away with it, but it still e…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:54 AM
7

Every single person or animal manipulates their environment or those around them to get what they need. You just sound silly using it as a dirty word.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:51 AM
8

Good point. It’s fascinating that the red pill kind of grew out of the backlash of the blue pill (i.e. third wave feminism) and in a sense, although its not “mainstream” it has permeated male pop culture to the degree that both genders are growing up in an echo chamber of extremes. In the end, building families or even healthy relationships will only be possible for the few rebels who reject both dogmas as ideals and find a balance between logic (selfishness) and love (selflessness). We need bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:23 PM
2

It’s not black and white. People love to make all these straw men. The point is that what attracts men and women does not overlap as much as we think. Everyone prefers partners with common sense, but the brain on my girl doesn’t make my dick hard like her body, voice, smell, and mannerisms do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 10:48 PM
1

They lied to each other. For the most part… there are always outliers, but feminism ultimately banged up against the wall of human nature and needs recalibrated at the very least.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 10:20 AM
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It takes many forms but the simplest answer is women evolved to associate survival with mate choice and thus the emotional concepts of prosperity and males they look up to and the experience of being given things generously are all tied together in the subconscious. People often revert to traditional males provide and women care roles without any peer or cultural pressure just because it feels natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 10:14 AM
1

If you’re, pilled you understand there is a disconnect from the women’s perspective. The vast majority of women naturally groom their ideal mate to join the nesting ritual and the same majority will end up frustrated if/when he gives in too easily or too fully. Men are wired more simply, so usually when they find the opportunity to settle into a routine they become lazy and complacent and this isn’t really the woman’s intent, so the man thinks he’s “being a good man” doing the same things she se…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 12:20 AM
2

She just wanted to understand it. I have no dogs here sport
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 04:04 AM
1

Keeping it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:21 AM
0

Probably because your points are incongruous and false. I certainly believe in mental illness and I’ve dated it. I don’t believe in just producing new humans no matter the circumstances. The world is not “blessed” having billions of children with shit parents. Thus, I will make conscious and subconscious choices when I choose who gets to carry mine. This should be a priority of all men… the babies they do make would be better off. Of course what i advocate would leave a lot of people childless b…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:04 AM
0

And it’s my choice not to MAKE BABIES with the mentally ill. Everybody wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 12:53 AM
3

Because no one js actually “practicing eugenics” numbnuts. We are all subconsciously selecting for ideal procreation whether you admit it or not. You’re being dramatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 12:28 AM
0

You’re likely also running into the fact that a lot of “pilled” people are also pilled about big pharma so being on meds =/= “seeking help”. In all cases, it signifies an issue, thus a potential red flag, but in almost as many cases it signifies a failure to seek healthy improvement like diet and exercise and instead a reliance on pharma to fix you. Many of us have come close to saying fuck it gimme some wellbutrin to get me out of this funk but ended up making a wise choice to turn it down and …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 12:26 AM
3

Yet he must be 6 foot, jacked etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 12:18 AM
2

It’s what gives us the fire in our souls to live make ourselves great. From looking up to dad as a toddler to cheering for the UFC champions, we crave idols and the determination to better ourselves that it gives us. Bitterness over competition and comparison is a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:53 PM
6

True but the funny thing is a standard is only a standard when it is enforced. Wishful thinking is not your standard, its fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:48 PM

Because older women have the brains to take their own in a world where men don’t automatically have power. Collectively they have manipulated social norms to the point where the vast majority of men are ashamed to try or don’t even realize dating down is an option. And of course most of those clueless men apply their own white-knight pressure and you have an overwhelming level of peer pressure on any man who might be deciding whether to select younger women or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 01:34 PM

I’ll be honest, I do this to tease girls all the time but i certainly don’t give much actual thought to what girls are into. In general, I’m not looking for a pal, I’m looking for some sparks, and basically all “types” can be interesting. It’s possible these guys think they’re teasing but are poorly calibrated and end up just being assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:34 PM
1

Rap is just more redpilled in general. A lot of celebrities sound feminist but overall hip hop culture seems more rooted in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:20 PM
7

The inverse is actually money/status. Men are just expected to be successful and providers so when women point it out it’s underwhelming… or even degrading. Men hate feeling like ATMs. Maybe not in quite the same way as a woman feels vulnerable to physical and visual degradation, but it makes men feel abused just the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 08:23 AM
-2

This is why LTRs usually end up with you taken for granted… its like reverting to the default setting. If you let her start to see you as a given in her life or as a “regular guy” instead of the “stud” she thought you were, you become one of the many.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:01 PM
0

I got pilled in the middle of an LTR with a BPD girl. I had a similar experience and it did help me learn to ease off the gas when necessary. Knowledge is power, but all knowledge is dangerous when implemented to an extreme degree or without contextual adjustment.
/r/TheRedPill28/11/23 06:39 PM
1

Easy. Stop getting married and stop pretending you are monogamous creatures. Instantly, “cheating” doesn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:04 AM

If you do not have bodyfat, you are 6 feet under. Also, ask anybody who has injected, the more you inject, the worse your Estrogen ratio becomes. That said, you are correct about the direct pharmacology. It is the ratios, however, which produce the unwanted side effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 12:46 AM

Sounds like you don’t really know what testosterone feels like. Test feeds confidence, focus, sleep, strength, but not stress. To be honest, whenever our TRT dose is too high, and we start feeling bitchy what is the common denominator? Estrogen! Bodybuilders let their E2 ride high and at some point it makes you cranky. Prolactin and progesterone are involved somehow but I’m not an expert. All I know is Ive experienced years of total T as low as 400 and periods of over 2000 and the only time I fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:39 PM
6

Being strong and confident make him hot far more than looks do. This is female evolution and has nothing to do with liberation. Of course everyone likes a good looking man, but look at the fucking results.
/r/TheRedPill21/11/23 04:16 AM
42

A woman’s list, whether she realizes it or not, is only two things: be a strong/confident/capable/successful man, and care enough about me that I reap the benefits in a personal way. Similarly, one could say a man’s list is: be hot, and be agreeable. You said everything much more thoroughly and this is important, but it can be helpful to realize how simple things are at the same time.
/r/TheRedPill21/11/23 01:30 AM
5

And its tight “a moment later”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:09 PM
1

Hi five
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 08:39 AM
3

Noticing on all the dating apps, women approaching 40 and explicitly stating they are firmly poly/ENM, but only here to find their “husband” Yea, of course you want a dude to give you financial security for the rest of your life while your 20 best physical years are behind you and odds are you won’t provide any children, but of course you will be indefinitely fucking other guys whenever you feel like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:28 AM
10

I’m 40 and literally have my second “girlfriend” now… the number Ive “dated” or slept with is quite a different story. And of course, we are definitely telling him to use a lie or two to get the ball rolling. It’s worth it for a man. The OP’s point is literally that lies are not necessarily detrimental to the way women receive you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:02 AM
-4

Exactly it has zero to do with their beauty class and everything to do with their pigheaded attitudes. I am kind and even flirt casually with girls who wouldn’t be able to turn me on because most of them deserve kindness. The ones who don’t are easy to spot and are invisible to me while they try to act like they’re hard to get so there is no conflict it’s a win win.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:39 AM
0

Cool man it sounded like mockery but it can go either way
/r/MarriedRedPill01/11/23 09:53 PM
2

In English this means identify you 😒
/r/MarriedRedPill01/11/23 08:47 PM
2

Alpha behaviors like looking out for a member of the group and taking the initiative to get problems solved may not instantly turn women on, but they contribute to making you someone they seek the approval of. In the moment, what makes the floodgates open may be very specific and not necessarily related, but women’s perception of alpha behavior is what makes them peg you as the one they want to spread for or not. So indirectly, taking the lead on something charitable or thoughtful definitely can…
/r/MarriedRedPill01/11/23 06:57 PM
10

Or… enjoy the decline
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:59 PM
1

Depends on goals. “Dating” down is much easier, but sharing a lifestyle and raising kids can be easier with people who are more like you. It may not always play out, but famous people tend to feel more comfortable with other famous people because they are coming into the relationship as equals (more or less). Theres usually less sense of being used or taken advantage of, whether the normie is even scheming or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 12:53 PM
1

What men are saying this? It’s validated because no words are necessary. She knows she’s not getting this experience often and he knows he’s still going to enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:40 PM
1

Because no man would “report” falsely that he was not a 40 year old virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:58 AM
5

Average is pointless. I and most of us here aim to be nowhere near average. Also note that averages can be the same across gender, while the number of females at ZERO is very low while the number of males at ZERO is a solid proportion… and those doing the hooking up of both genders will have n counts much higher than… average.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:34 AM

Its a cross over of instincts. The only truly “happy” relationships are some form of sacrifice on both parts. What genpop never understands is that the disney view of monogamous marriage is not a compromise, it’s just men making all the sacrifices. They understand that James Bond isn’t the long term ideal either, but until they admit a happy balance is in between these two extremes, they’ll repeatedly find themselves frustrated and not understand why.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 09:39 AM

Exactly. A man who has a great sex life doesn’t need individual encounters to last forever. He’s winning at the game. Eventually he may let one girl stay indefinitely, but he is the one that makes that decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 06:44 AM
7

Except that we don’t. I retain because I happen to enjoy everything beyond sex. When it comes to my appetite for just sex… I do not need to retain. Two very different goals and they just happen to overlap… somewhat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 02:18 PM
2

This has nothing to do with attitude or actual dating approach and everything to do with social media both giving women the illusion of endless valuation and the validation of demanding and shocking standards. In reality 99% of them don’t have the dating access they pretend to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 12:51 PM

Maybe start with learning to spell Nobel Prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 10:00 AM
1

It's literally the reason people get hot again... so they have access to whom they didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 01:54 PM
2

It got me out of toxic relationships and kept hott(er) gfs on their toes… i would say it’s mentally fatalistic but saves you from heartbreak which is net positive for a male.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:25 PM
2

Literally last night… 2 twenty something girls were walking fast because this tweaker guy was following them real close and my two buddies and i just slid in between them like the blue angels… and slowed the dude down until the girls were out of sight. Not really heroic just saying its nature and none of us had to say a word we just moved.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:52 PM
5

The shit tests vanish whenever they smell a chance of you moving on. They come back in force whenever they experience your consistent attention for too long. Money makes no difference in this its just that the guys with status and money have access and some of them make the best of that, resulting in shorter attention span with each woman, and thus fewer shit tests from any of them.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/23 10:40 PM

Kinda looking to be talked out of leaving “relationship” of any kind behind… i miss being single so much, but of course you always miss the girls you were with the longest… its not a fair life 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:57 PM

True
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:54 PM

Absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:50 PM

If it wasn’t clear, I’m asking about the mutual psychosis that “monogamy” seems to have on people. Single, both she and I are 20 year competitive lifters and have generally very good approaches to nutrition. When spending too many nights together, theres a mental thing that happens, perhaps similar to the nesting instinct of a pregnant females. Its like the importance of your world outside the intimacy literally fades. We are both in our 40s and in my opinion fairly immune to oneitis. Yet the sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:38 PM

This is my most common approach. Ill just say see ya later Monday morning and not invite her over until Thurs/Fri. It does take some “emotionless decision making” but it helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:28 PM

Problem: life is too good, losing motivation Solution: have motivation Got it 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:25 PM

Best answer. All sidebar… but critical to learn rote. 90% of the other answers so far belong on r/obesity or r/semaglutide 😏 but you get it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:18 PM

True
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:15 PM

Dude she was a competitive powerlifter. She probably works out more offen than me. Its the evenings and sexy times that add up when you’re 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:14 PM
6

Attractive and chill is always the best archetype.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 02:57 AM
30

According to studies, “happy” means no longer feeling the need to strive. Have fun with that in ten years.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 02:54 AM
1

Its not something you think about usually, but objectively speaking, I am more apathetic about a girl who is closed off or too “boss” about things. In other words, i relish being a comforting anchor to women and when they act like they don’t value that or don’t trust me like that, I grow bored more easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 11:23 AM

Most people are idiots and most marriages end in divorce.. literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 11:31 AM

She’s not locking down somebody her own age goofball.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 11:27 AM
7

I won’t go into detail but yea, American salary is nice when you work overseas.
/r/seduction19/09/23 02:34 PM
8

Im looking at a position in one of 6 of those countries. Knock on wood ill be nearby in a year bro!
/r/seduction19/09/23 02:27 PM
2

Looks are fragile to women so they must be downplayed. It's just a mental game.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 02:35 PM
75

It is a feedback loop, but if you aren’t ready, it will just make you anxious and insecure.
/r/seduction05/09/23 08:49 PM
2

There’s a thousand miles between “in love” and “disgusted” but make no mistake, 80% of humans are “satisfied” with mediocre in lots of ways. It’s why bell curves apply so easily to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 04:28 PM
16

Actually most blue pill dudes would jump into action taking it as a sign that their relationship was “failing” and that it was now their mission to “win her over” again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:59 PM
2

Most people pretend or seem to be in love because people LOVE feeling secure/wanted/needed. Its one of our most primal drives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:56 PM
1

Yes its often this on too of the old “want what you cant have” a lot of people have trauma and with girls it’s often the daddy issue where they are literally uncomfortable being treated well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:46 AM
-2

“Funny because my actual dad never did any of that shit and it's certainly not anything I need from an equal partner.” This is why you are bitter and don’t get it. Fortunately the daddy types and babygirl types know how to complement each other and don’t have this misguided idea that two different things can be “equal”. Everything has a purpose and it’s own strengths and weaknesses. People have their own “equal” right to agency, but are never equivalent. Find what complements you and you’ll be m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:31 PM
1

They won’t Mother nature doesn’t give up
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:23 AM
2

It is not one-sided by nature, but women have been brown-nosed for so many decades, told that a man is lucky to be able to fuck them and should be expected to provide and behave like a good faithful boy before being considered deserving of their “gift”. It’s just backlash (and somewhat deserving) from the times when men were the ones who were “believed” and held the keys to status and prosperity. Now women have essentially established a new “normal” in their minds where they can use the promise …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 01:53 PM
3

I think there are tiers to it. I know I’ve become advanced in terms of non-reactivity, but the next tier is assertiveness, meaning you assert your intentions and priorities without hesitation. Too often I still step back from being explicit about my desires because its “easier” to let her feel like I am monogamous with her than to have to address it in the open.
/r/TheRedPill11/08/23 04:25 AM
1

Of course not, they just have more difficulty separating the different emotions. Everyone has at least some instinctual desire to feel comfort in having a grounded partner or to find fulfillment in caring for a distraught one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:27 AM
1

It’s different with the ones they look to for reassurance vs the “friends” or little bros they might have that they feel more like mothers to. I believe i wrote that phrase in haste
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:06 AM
1

A massive number of people have childhood trauma, which people might call daddy issues but really a number of things are involved. Most parents are not very good at parenting especially when on their first try when they are younger. This conditions people to grow up with dysfunctional survival mechanisms like (in this case) avoiding strong males when they are emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 06:16 PM
4

Women generally don’t want to feel like the stronger one in the relationship…whether it’s conscious or not, feminine energy craves a male energy that “bends less in the wind” to feel grounded by. Being sensitive to pain or empathic is one thing, but a guy who bawls all the time is going to make most women uncomfortable. The thing is in some cases a woman who has been traumatized tends to have difficulty discerning between theses behaviors and becomes afraid of any male tears. Its like a trigger …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 10:01 AM
0

In my experience its the average looking guys with more confidence who find themselves getting casual sex easily. It my blow some minds, but so if you look like dreamboat husband material it’s like they don’t want to lose their shot at long term monogamy by being casual with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 11:50 AM
0

You just aren’t watching the right porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 11:43 AM

Studies on “happiness” are full of cope and female-centric narratives. 90% of old guys who have to sneak downstairs at night to get off claim they are “happy” because of other success like having children and decent retirement options.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:37 PM
2

Yea its your fault for failing the shit test. Don’t complain about who’s fault it is when you let women’s nagging drive your behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 09:04 AM
3

The top row doesn’t do much for me at all. Maybe if the ass is perfect… cant see. But i feel like an outlier anyway; my taste in hourglass ratio is essentially a fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:46 AM
0

We tell ourselves from youth we don’t need more than one but we are subconsciously coping from the beginnings. You can buy your bullshit and maybe you’ll be happy not knowing what you’re missing but see that gorgeous chick walk by on the beach or find yourself at a strip club on somebody’s bachelor party and your head will fucking turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:39 PM
2

Men often get massively more attractive as they work on themselves. A woman generally will never be a dime if she was average growing up. The one exception might be if a genetically superior chick is obese as a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:09 PM
-4

Wrong. They don’t choose to, but they still want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 05:05 AM

100% it does the correlations of self sacrifice and following others are there. I cut off all potential relationships before boot camp, but if I hadn’t, I know I would have a tale of regret.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:23 PM
-3

Exactly. The best girls i ever had were outspoken and opinionated but exhibited submission to me. Of course there are hot women who would not want to be submissive to me, but nothing is more disgusting than a girl well in my league who thinks she can make demands of me. I know how to get everything i need… i have no use for a girl who needs to be “handled” (a la you can’t handle this)
/r/seduction14/06/23 09:51 PM
6

Insults are acts of desperation. When you know subconsciously you are on the losing side of something you resort to ad hominems
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:59 AM
2

His complaint was that men have to work two jobs etc. think about it. Not saying one is better but this is the point: a good woman does provide value.
/r/TheRedPill07/06/23 03:49 AM
1

I much prefer steady sexual connection as well. The thing is, to be able to develop them with girls you’re actually attracted to is hard work. Meaning you won’t have the balls or the game to deal with anyone you think is hot without a lot of reps. The nights don’t all have to end in sex, but they have to give you experience with lots of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:32 PM
0

As low as the stars? No wonder you’re all confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 02:59 PM

What it's starting to lose is the effective understanding of PUA style success. Back in the Mystery days, it was all about charm and fitness. Now the emphasis has shifted to money and power, which are definitely fundamental, but the number of men who can really achieve something like Bilzerian status is so miniscule they are leaving a lot of guys with no hope. There's a fat chunk of the 80 percenters who should not necessarily give up on being rich, but should find something in the personality o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:28 AM
-5

Whether this is true or not, the difference is ‘pilled guys know what “equal partnership” leads t… male/female nature always wins long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 11:59 AM
3

True but it’s all relative. For every obese man theres an obese woman who likely can’t land anyone from the top 20% like she wants. It may not make her happy, but datability is possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 06:14 AM
1

Walmart women isnt the opposite of “rich women”. Walmart is people with no ambition. Plenty of hotties at Bilzerian parties who are not rich, but they have something to offer and know how to use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 08:46 PM
8

"Our bravest men have the courage to say “I am a woman” and head b into female territory: into women’s locker rooms, bathrooms,and changing rooms." You're killin me XD
/r/TheRedPill30/05/23 01:26 PM
1

Neither of these scenarios leads to happy relationships though. When people warm up slowly whats usually really happening is some form of settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 04:17 PM
1

I would think its just tough to show immaturity in a photo so she just grabbed a random stock photo of guys, nothing more. But yes, there is a trend of both men and women growing up spoiled by 1st world comfort and never achieving the maturity that struggle develops. You don’t have to be feminist to see it shifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:23 AM
0

It’s the same picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:03 PM
2

Layer that with all the emotional risk involved. Being rejected or disrespected by a man within her perceived “league” is painful. Thus their minds are going to be (mostly subconsciously) bouncing between is this guy a creep or a physical threat until she gets the impression that he’s neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:02 PM

I said none of this. All people need to earn respect. Men are just more wired to appreciate doing so. This is basic RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 08:18 PM

Females want to be loved for simply existing. Men tend to value the struggle itself relatively more but as men are feminized you see more of this participation trophy nonsense from both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 01:29 PM
0

It’s also the misinterpretation that saying someone has a “peak year” means that in every other year they are trash. Like saying men are “only attractive when they have big houses and millions to spend” and that in all their earlier years they’re in pursuit of success they’re “ugly”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 12:35 PM

Now look who’s being ageist and resorting to personal insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 12:28 PM
2

I’ve noticed this too and it makes me wonder. Why is it this irritates me so much? Ill have girls who are enjoying the shit out of my time energy and dick say “I just want to be sure I’m not wasting my time” like… you think what we are doing is a waste of time? So if it ends then it was all a waste? So what you really mean is you only put in an effort because you expect some prize at the end of the road… like what? Something besides me clearly because I’m right fucking here now. The red-pill rea…
/r/TheRedPill14/05/23 01:53 PM
-1

Yea if i wanted a religious friend to just talk and be around… id be friends with a youth pastor. All the laughs, none of the pms.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:15 AM
6

Plenty of us don’t really do exclusive at all, so yea… it’s not reasonable to expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:12 AM
1

Right over your head huh
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 10:04 PM
1

You have a point, but I believe in the long run it's always better for your ego and health to abstain in that case and convert that motivation to fuck into determination to either A) game women or B) improve yourself I don't hate, and I have also wistfully fantasized about a simpler world where everyone just respected the art of barter in terms of flesh... but our motivational circuits are not really conducive to this. I believe it has a negative effect on both man and woman's mind.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/23 08:20 PM
1

Women do none of those things. This type of claim can only be addressed with statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:17 PM
6

Personal inexperience is statistically insignificant
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 11:15 AM
1

I truly wonder if we are exaggerating how pervasive it is for women to have had sex on the first date. RP principles are one thing, but my guess is the bell curve, maybe 80% of people are not as reckless as we think, whether its religion, introversion, shrewdness, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 07:57 PM
1

Absolutely. If he behaves like a simp, he will see the same gradual shift of her respect just melting away. Status and power are the most potent arousing factors, but can be imitated easily by job, money, position, luck etc. and they have to be genuine for lasting success with women. That's why the most lasting relationships are often in a low to middle class context where a naturally confident, charismatic guy is able to rise above the majority of his peers (especially if it's a relatively smal…
/r/TheRedPill04/05/23 11:40 AM
7

This isn't the point whatsoever. Paying for sex is the epitome of simping and as redpill aware you should know that it removes all respect and attraction a woman has for a man. If you're a king and you command a woman to blow you, she may not have had any attraction previously, but at least it's a power move and may turn her on physically. If you are Jason Momoa but you pay her 100 bucks to blow you, whatever she thought of you before, you just became an ATM in her mind. I don't begrudge the exp…
/r/TheRedPill04/05/23 12:18 AM
5

Nonsense. It’s not their job to resist anyone. If its your girlfriend and she wishes to respect you, then her job would be to avoid flirting, gaming, and obviously dating other guys. If she is on a third date she is either available and has no reason to be difficult… or she’s cheating with you and everybody involved is fishing with dynamite. There’s no actual rules in that case and its certainly not up to you to decide what “her job is”.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 09:17 PM
0

Negging is for women with inflated self-esteem and your other examples have nothing to do with self-esteem. The female mind just responds most reliably to implication rather than logic. That is really the only thing these principles are trying to illustrate to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 04:45 PM
1

Mother nature doesn’t give a fuck. Motherhood always wants the best seed and only sometimes do “the rules” keep her from getting what she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 01:13 PM
14

In a way but thats just semantics. Everyone has to deal with being objectified or truly desired. Heres why they are dichotomous: for men, it feels just as gross to be objectified as an ATM as a woman feels being objectified for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:14 AM
4

What cracks me up is how women love to brag that they grow up faster but when 18 year old boys are man enough to bleed in a trench for their safety, what are 18 year old girls expected to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:52 AM
1

lol what can I say... I like tiny hispanic chicks the best
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:58 PM
8

the fuck are you contributing though
/r/TheRedPill06/04/23 08:52 PM
0

Girls shaped like Dolly Parton... but age appropriate. And well I don't know much about Ariana really, but from what I've heard her ego is too big for me to be legitimately interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:42 PM
-2

Ariana Grande + big breast implants + attitude adjustment 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:17 PM
18

And it removes all the pressure from them to decide how much attention to give in return. The most stressful phase for a girl is discerning whether a guy is creepy or attractive since your initial appearance doesn’t usually tell her this.
/r/seduction02/04/23 08:06 PM
1

This is widely known, actually. Vacation is the best time for women to get their rocks off without fear of baggage, which is the main reason a woman will hold back in that department.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 09:02 AM
2

They just don’t believe you. Don’t stress.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 01:51 AM
2

Instinct says when her eyes sparkle, it means she pictures you as her romance novel hero, whatever that means to her in particular. She may not even actively imagine what he would do next, but the likelihood is she has numerous vague fantasies of him sweeping her into the saddle, throwing her over his shoulder, pinning her to the door, etc. (obviously I’m exaggerating) and every minute you do the complete opposite, her subconscious further erases that potential role from your resume until, in he…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 01:47 AM
-2

If you’re crazy lucky you can run into one of those who is drop-dead by all accounts… but just doesn’t have that mind fuck about it, like if she grew up sheltered or something… but yes in general the hottest women are often more annoying than they are worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 09:24 PM
2

I agree.. my prescription is look for the cute GND material who can be glammed up well but doesn’t consider herself hot. This is the kind of girl you can make your own and develop a healthy attraction as well as respect for yourself in.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 08:02 PM
-1

And I am not caring what you think. I sleep at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 04:16 PM
3

No … If he is dating down massively to where it’s not a burden and he doesn’t feel taken for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:01 PM
1

The only correct approach is to act like it means nothing and let the chips fall where they will. This means that sometimes she is going to lean into that orbit and perhaps favor their opinion over yours, in which case you know she isn’t worth it for you. Women desperately maintain support staff and when it can be attractive (if not sexual) males, they will cling to it. Society only sees PIV as the basis for fidelity, so rarely are they judged for their approach. At the same time, you cant blame…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:59 PM
3

If we make five times as much as her, we do that without a blink.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:47 PM
0

Cheating is defined by the rules. Choose not to proclaim that you’re owned by one vagina for the rest of your life and no one can ever call you a cheater.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:41 PM
1

This is a pretty concise and therefore useful argument. It sounds a little bit soviet in its approach but is certainly well-advised in a roughly 4/5 manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 02:50 AM

Selflessly caring without expecting anything in return is literally what I described. Women generally cannot feel this because their love is rooted in believing their mate is ideal. As soon as they realize their man isn’t what they thought (i.e. he fucks around, loses his job, grows cold…) she loses that love completely; it vanishes and she is angry because she can’t stomach the thought that she made the mistake of believing in him. Men believe they can /make/ their situation ideal… they are not…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 02:39 AM
3

Yea… that’s just not a key.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/23 12:09 AM

We definitely don’t love the same way as women. Healthy love for a man is a seemingly unconditional chosen state. We define the words differently which is why men and women can get so bitter… it feels like our exes were liars when, in most cases, the motivations and conditions for continuing in that state are not maintained in parallel.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 12:07 AM
3

Being “in love” could be considered a blue pill construct. A fully aware man may not be capable of “head over heels” because it relies partly on irrational, idealistic, self-delusion. We definitely dabble in love, because everyone likes to feel good, but on some level we know we are just pretending. Edit: not that men only dabble… but when a man loves deeply its a different definition… it’s an all-consuming decision that can take years of shitty behavior to roll back in his mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 09:27 AM
40

A lock that is opened by many keys…
/r/TheRedPill01/03/23 08:58 AM
0

Its fewer not less And i dont care about most men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 04:33 PM
-2

Mother nature sure can hurt your little ego sometimes cant it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 06:51 AM
-11

Married for 57 years = not an alpha chad
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:31 PM
-2

Its a fundamental concept to the pill that 80% of men AND women are only interested in cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 07:54 PM
3

Lmfao the only divide is how many do it here vs facebook etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 07:53 PM
1

Sounds like a winner. Is he a yes man with the kids too?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 07:01 PM
6

Not to diminish the difficulty, but high functioning autism isn’t the same as mental illness. By that metric everybody has some form of mental illness… we are all one spectrum or another if we are honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 09:01 PM
3

Gents.. remember low to no n count means someone who cant get what they want easily whether male or female. The number of 10/10 women in this category is “astronomically low”. Long term commitment is not arousing, but most people, both men and women, sacrifice sexual goals for stability and security, especially for their children. Do with this knowledge what you will. Most women will repeat this narrative because their idealism requires that men fall into their desired categories, but they know …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 04:38 PM
11

People do lots of things for lots of reasons. Men are just less likely to try to leave as evidenced by statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 11:05 PM
4

Irrelevant. Only guys with solid game are able to hold out for the hot girls. Most men are content to have somebody half way decent who will stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 01:12 AM
1

Meh
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 03:31 AM
7

I’m 40 and felt like it must be my age since I am sometimes relieved when life gets busy and I miss a night, i.e. my girl and I are just tired and want to curl up. The expectation (especially in redpill circles) seems to be if you’re virile you want to fuck 2-3 a day or you’re beating off in the shower just to release and though my T is testing at the max healthy level, I rarely have the urge to go every single day of the week or more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 03:38 PM
11

You change your pool by changing yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 05:13 PM
4

You are correct in choosing to diverge from this culture, but what you fail to see is that you are the more red pill in this situation. Red pill does not tell women to be hypergamous or use sex transactionally, it identifies that most women tend towards this type of behavior... as you have done. Your eyes are open, and that's all I would pretend red pill means for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:14 AM
1

What you're missing is the aspect that the nicer a guy is, the weaker he is perceived... usually completely subconsciously. but her gut doesnt feel safe with him and on the surface she must distance herself from his DNA.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 12:09 PM
1

Oh I say it out loud, in mixed company, i like a girl with just enough daddy issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 09:28 AM
1

Tbh this is the simplest and purest approach to release for health reasons. I might almost theorize that it is the ONLY approach that has no mental drawbacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:54 AM
1

This is normally a good way to look at things, but when we are talking about orgasm it’s like we are giving ourselves the ultimate reward for something we desire, without doing any of the work, which I believe erodes the incentive to make an effort and also somehow erodes the self worth to believe we are capable or deserving of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:53 AM
2

Once a woman decides her connection with a man has run its course, she is more likely than not to completely cease to care what effect her next steps have on him. It’s a survival mechanism. She can’t long for a provider who will never raise her young. We only bring this up because it’s different with men, where they are more likely than not to get hung up on succeeding with what they started that they will scrape and plod through the worst treatment to “win her back”. We (by and large) have pola…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:49 AM
3

Then you should know very well how rare it is that a woman cares about a man she’s over enough to sacrifice her shot at child support, alimony, vengeance, whatever. Maybe you are that woman, but it’s not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:09 AM
2

Again, “true love” is a pseudonym for the male determination to succeed at all costs. It makes us victorious in battle and slaves to lifelong forms of hardship. In a way, it’s a beautiful thing… I myself love a BPD “ex” for whom i wish the best and whom I take care of in little ways now and again, but whom I knew I could never live with for a lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:02 AM
3

This man hasn’t met enough women to know how instantaneously you don’t mean jack shit to them when they’re “done” with you. True love is an invention of men to justify our craving to succeed at something despite all obstacles. It doesn’t make it worthwhile for us and for women it’s an absolutely temporary concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:58 AM
1

I’m saying this is the fundamental reason men are unsatisfied in marriages, and you would say women have a different reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:20 AM
2

Lol Really. It’s far more important she doesn’t know you care than that you know details. You get a sense of her and that’s all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 08:22 AM
2

Weak, controlling traits.. even if he’s high value, he doesn’t know it and that will damage whatever you build together. Pass Of course at some point I will expect her to drop them as a signal that she values me, but it’s still not presented as a rule or deal breaker. If you have to give a girl hard rules to get her to treat you correctly, she’s not into you enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:08 AM
1

You need to go back to the basics. This is what shit testing looks like. Do you sidebar or are you a newbie to the pill
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 08:40 AM
4

Yea it’s not that it wins her over it’s that the door is open because you are verified. It’s the blue checkmark of being not a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:27 AM
2

What you’re missing is just because she’s cold doesn’t mean she doesn’t like him. The hotter a girl is the more cutthroat her self control concerning all that blushing and nerves. Often the more nervous, attracted girls are meaner initially because they’re having trouble hiding anxiety while staying calm and neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:26 AM
0

It’s often a big part of women’s approach to sex. She says “I’ll come over but we aren’t having sex”. Then you’re hanging out and she’s like “ok I’ll cuddle but no sex”. Then you’re cuddling and she’s like “I can sleep over but no sex”. When you finally have sex, she is in a position to rationalize it as you being persuasive even though she knew all along coming over is 90% of planning to fuck. Her conscience craves that back door in case you turn out to be a bug mistake… because then she can ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:22 AM
-1

No one “wants” a ONS. It’s just a failure to keep one or both parties interested in more, so it feels horrible to most people. Posting it in your profile is beating a dead horse. When women do it it is literally pre-meditated anti-slut defense… so whatever happens feels like a little more your responsibility as the guy… ie you are absorbing some of the shame if it doesn’t work out because “she isn’t into that”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:58 AM
14

It’s simpler than this. There are many forms of “success” and “getting the girl. Your mother wants you settled down with a “nice girl” and she doesn’t give two shits about how well you are laid. She simply isn’t farsighted enough to take that to the logical conclusion… that her advice will put you in long term commitments and make you subservient to the female ideal, and inevitably miserable. She is coming from the perspective of what she thinks makes one happy, because it makes her happy (to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 03:33 PM
1

Solid thesis this
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 02:55 AM
4

Sounds like winning actually
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 02:52 AM
1

You shouldn’t trust me. You don’t know me. You should do your own research and you’ll find that red pill concepts, while not universal truth, play out in reality more than they do not. That is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 05:30 AM
-1

A little something called biology, which is fundamental to pull theory and understanding human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:04 AM
-2

Betrayal is common in both, but women are specifically wired to think less of a vulnerable man. So the character strength that is required for a man to open up initially makes her feel trusted and impressed, but too much and she starts to subconsciously peg him as a sheep in wolf clothing and even if she wants to respect him, she can begin to loathe him very easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:37 AM
1

In men the romantic attraction can increase with familiarity but the physical attraction always fills with exposure. It’s completely “unmale” to desire one mate and stop spreading seed. It is certainly part of an enjoyable life, but it’s always at odds with the libido in my experience. I should add that I’m not into hookups at all, but the pursuit of new and better is always the drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 09:18 AM
1

It’s not just having muscle, it’s the fact that you have to train your ass off to get there. Science certainly says hard training and full body lifts have a great effect. I personally saw mine double over about a decade after developing a serious iron habit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 10:50 PM
1

Depends on your value and character. Though she doesn’t see it for years falling for marriage immediately knocks you down 2 pegs in her eyes so it’s to be avoided. I have “this” with a high value woman who doesn’t get a title or expectation of marriage, but i make her feel like my only when together, and she definitely gets my best (a majority of my spare time, more affection and attention than a fuck buddy, etc.) I call her lover but I’m explicit about not being “a romantic” or believing in “so…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 01:46 AM
28

Generally men lament when a girl is a slut for certain other men and not for them. The ideal is a very high standards girl who will do anything for you, and of course this trends towards complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:52 PM
1

Sounds like you’re obsessed with this chick
/r/seduction30/10/22 02:04 PM
1

I’d say I’ve made maybe a hundred approaches… not that much but didn’t “feel like” doing it much until a year ago. I’m my experience the more one thinks and tries to improve the more likely it is to seem forced. My best approaches are always indirect where I don’t see it coming or where my sarge buddy is like “hey ask those chicks if they prefer grade A or grade B”. I rarely make day approaches because I’m still battling the ego/self image monster. It’s such irony… how women perceive you is a ma…
/r/seduction28/10/22 01:55 PM
1

Looking for facts? Please expound.
/r/seduction28/10/22 11:02 AM
3

Apparently this is what happens at the beginning… I know I still get mentally exhausted making approaches, whether direct or indirect. I think of it as an introverted trait. Everyone says “after 10 you’ll be bolder and after 100 you won’t even think about it anymore” but i feel like you do, like the more I do the more worn out or used up I’ll feel and I wonder if it’s the same for everybody or not… like am I different or just haven’t done enough.
/r/seduction28/10/22 12:57 AM
2

Truth
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 05:03 PM
0

Nobody wants a say in your fantasy trust me. It’s interesting to learn to shape your own mind as it’s quite a powerful thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 05:02 PM
1

I might
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 04:41 PM
1

What's better... "I don't need a woman to get off" or "I don't need my own hands to get off" they both have merit, but it's not really the same argument. It's a bit more complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 04:41 PM
1

For a guy, this is a shortcut to bungling the connection. The more you fantasize about your crush, the more nervous and invested you are mentally, which is the worst thing you can have going when you first make moves on her. At least for the beginning, the more unattached to the outcome you are, the easier it is and the more she can be attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 02:36 PM
1

Call it rules or not, everything has a "better for your brain" answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 02:33 PM
1

You just completely contradicted yourself. I don’t even need to argue it anymore.
/r/seduction27/10/22 05:41 AM
1

The absence of kids is a terrible litmus test. The bottom line is you don't have any idea how many men a woman has actually slept with, you only see patterns in how easily she gives in and to what quality of guys. From a psychological perspective, though we are certainly interested in hastening our own lay, the value of a girl who at least tries to preserve herself for the best man she can find is fundamental to her long term happiness. So while they may rarely be completely honest about this, i…
/r/seduction26/10/22 12:07 PM
1

That means something
/r/seduction26/10/22 03:09 AM
1

What time of night do women get horny? 😁
/r/seduction26/10/22 03:08 AM
0

Headphones my dude. Read what I said.
/r/seduction26/10/22 03:07 AM
2

Can't blame them :) but sure sucks to have your time wasted like that. Even if you initiate and they play along actively, you can blow 1-2 hours each time with a girl who never wants to see you again. I mean sometimes the banter is fun, but if you knew while you were working she was going to ghost it would drain your soul. Women have no clue how much emotional and extrovert energy it expends for us to simply make things happen... especially us with introvert roots.
/r/seduction25/10/22 04:59 AM
-4

Women lie about it far more than men do though. You guys should know this. It serves a woman's ego to pretend she's more pure than she is, whereas mean are more likely to benefit from a bit of misbehavior associated with their name.
/r/seduction25/10/22 04:56 AM
2

Lol there's no middle ground on Reddit XD
/r/seduction25/10/22 04:53 AM
3

I literally never stare. It only makes it worse for everyone. Honestly I still err on the side of avoiding eye contact… it’s surprisingly slow to turn that battleship around. I have a rule with myself especially in gyms I don't hold eye contact unless I'm close enough to respond to whatever they might say.
/r/seduction25/10/22 04:51 AM
-10

says the subscriber to r/seduction
/r/seduction25/10/22 04:46 AM
18

The gym here is enormous though. She didn’t have to walk anywhere near me but she came right past and spent a few minutes next to me. I would have just said hello politely if I hadn’t been blasting metal in my headphones and lifting with an interval timer.
/r/seduction24/10/22 09:01 PM
12

Nope
/r/seduction24/10/22 08:59 PM
1

Please go deeper with this… you’re saying you see a trend in girls to just not have sex at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 05:01 AM
4

I feel like this is the skeleton key… everything would work if I could just flip a switch and have the “fuck it” to do everything I dream of. It seems like I’ll get one or two nights a month where I just wing it and get into flow state and the other 28 nights I just want to be an introvert and go to bed. It’s like we need to hack our own brains and tweak our value systems before it even matters whether we have game or not.
/r/seduction24/10/22 04:17 AM
6

Up to a month if you mean youre busy and it takes that long to get to the third date... but otherwise thats silly
/r/seduction22/10/22 05:44 PM
2

Whatever you do is up to you but trying to get to know her before getting physical is textbook anti-seductive. Get to know her on your date, but as a man if you avoid sex for 2-3 dates, you are only showing that you volunteer to step into her friendzone.
/r/seduction22/10/22 03:17 PM
1

The best way to get noticed past appearances is by being noticeable ie a leader. For most guys this might mean find something you’re good at like volleyball or jiujitsu and start teaching free meetup groups until you have a circle of people who talk about you and look up to you anyway. But with your kind of money that could be having a sail boat or doing something more extreme like leading mountain climbing trips or having next level house parties.
/r/seduction22/10/22 02:52 PM
35

Women are much more tuned in to imagination and implication. Men need visual and physical representation of something for it to feel real, but women have much stronger sense of things implied subtly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 10:01 PM
2

It’s not “using” if both people get the same thing out of it and don’t use trickery to get there. Everyone needs sex. You’re just used to the bullshit narrative that women should get something beyond sex for men to “deserve” it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:18 PM
1

A whole lot of people are used to prioritizing stability and relationship success (both men and women) due to cultural norms and peer pressure, so a lot of what they say they like is more closely aligned with what has lasted rather than what gets them uncontrollably horny (as red pill theory revolves around). Remember that red pill concepts are built on the principle of improving men's sexual agency, which is a legitimate interest, but hardly all-encompassing in terms of solving peoples happines…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:46 AM
4

Ladies love a sociopath
/r/seduction19/10/22 06:58 PM
0

Whatever dude.
/r/seduction18/10/22 03:46 AM
4

Abundance is not just a guy issue… girls operate the same way they just do it naturally.
/r/seduction18/10/22 02:44 AM
9

I don’t give one goddamn how much money a girl has. Trashy refers to morals.
/r/seduction18/10/22 02:17 AM
94

Yea a lot of veterans just say “if she actually wants it she’ll take you into a public toilet” but in my experience it’s rarely that simple. I wonder if a lot of these players we know as such are just averaging much trashier lays than they pretend.
/r/seduction17/10/22 10:37 PM
3

Which reinforces a lot of red pill theory 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:26 AM
-4

I’m a man and I’ll think with my dick if I want to. And preferring not to be saddled with other men’s spawn or a string of exes or find yourself with a hardcore alpha widow is the furthest thing from predatory. It’s called survival and desire to succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 02:15 PM
1

Brilliant
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:29 AM
1

Which doesn’t matter to the hindbrain. Watch what the majority of people do, not what is said they should do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:23 AM
1

With their mouths. Look at their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:21 AM
7

It’s not virtuous it’s valuable. It’s literally the evolutionary imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 12:37 PM
20

This is inane because no one judges women for a low count. That is false equivalence. The issue is neither is hypocritical, exactly, because the male/female virtue and vice are all different things none of these are perfect opposites nor similes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 12:15 PM
10

This is valuable advice. I’ve had comments like “no wonder you are a player” and realized I was leaning into the character too hard. Gotta play up the abundance mentality but keep the hope alive that she could tame the beast if she tried hard enough. That’s the perfect balance.
/r/seduction05/10/22 08:10 PM
3

So you don’t have trouble transitioning from casual interaction to make out and more? What do you keep in mind to keep yourself as a sexual option.. or do you think, as I suspect, the friendzone is mostly just a place certain guys will always fall into… I.e. she either sees you as friend-zone material or not and if you are not, you can’t fuck it up by being casual at first?
/r/seduction05/10/22 09:42 AM
-1

Who cares. The purpose they serve is just to put bits of wisdom in hilarious examples so men can learn to think outside the box of their feminist upbringing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 08:20 PM
2

Probably because she doesn’t have xray vision
/r/seduction04/10/22 08:09 PM
5

“seems like I’m taking you for granted” this is straight friendzone rationalization. They never use that language unless they’re trying to groom orbiters.
/r/seduction30/09/22 02:14 PM
1

Yes, but let’s be real. The average guy is a bit taller than the average girl already. Hot girls come in all heights and trust me, when they are 5 feet tall they don’t know the difference between 5’7 and 6’whatever (generally). Know your target audience. Even if you are unlucky and only taller than 1/3 of women, you are still working with a billion women.
/r/seduction29/09/22 03:00 PM
2

No joke. I remember going to NYC one time.. I though DC was a city…
/r/seduction29/09/22 02:50 PM
2

Yes everyone All we were talking about is I think more men have high standards than redditors insinuate. Average dudes might fuck whatever they can manage because they are disadvantaged in the game, but high value men are just as picky as high value women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 10:04 PM
10

Pill or no pill, it helps to view everything as a transaction in a rational sense. It’s not the happiest way to live life, but it helps explain a lot of things. This isn’t red pill, it’s logic. Red pill is a way of viewing all of it… transactional value as well as attraction cues and looksmaxxing etc. apples to oranges
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 09:48 PM
7

A pool bar is not unique; you’re fishing for generic advise but whatever. Be big, be friendly, and build rapport with the bartenders as well as other guys. It’s way easier to break the ice with a chick if you are mid conversation with another person and you can just lean over and be like “you hear that? He thinks blablabla” Social game on vacation is easy because everyone is trying to just have a good time and are basically just waiting to be pulled into funny conversations.
/r/seduction28/09/22 09:42 PM
1

Not necessarily. I’m extremely visual and have incredibly strong preference for physical attraction, yes, but anything can be a factor. Sometimes I think I’m into a chick and I smell her halitosis and I’m just like wtf. Anything observable is taken into consideration on first meeting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 09:38 PM
1

Could be
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 09:15 PM
3

Yea I personally would rather not fuck at all if given the chance with even 95% of chicks who give me IOIs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 08:32 PM
2

Use innuendo all you can and even joke around about sexual things, you just never explicitly refer to fucking her. This isn’t a concrete rule, but generally it works out better if guys follow it.
/r/seduction28/09/22 08:25 PM
8

As a rule you never talk about sex directly and you never talk about it in an “official” manner… you never want sex to be viewed as transactional and this joke I think gets too close to the fire if you will.
/r/seduction28/09/22 07:26 PM
3

And chicks fall all over themselves for a guy other guys suck up to… coincidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:20 AM
5

Let’s be honest.. for those of us “non-naturals” the brain gets there far sooner than the gut. Meaning.. you and I and we understand everything fairly quickly, but the instincts take time. Do the work and be patient and our behavior will eventually mirror our understanding.
/r/seduction28/09/22 03:18 AM
3

I’m seeing a girl who never ever gets approached. She’s hot but looks fit, confident, is a little taller than average and wears aviators. I would guess most men rightly assume she could easily embarrass them for being creepy and she has the balls to do it. She doesn’t quite realize it but that’s the energy she puts out.
/r/seduction24/09/22 04:53 PM
3

Mans got a problem… conditioner burns your pee hole. What’s his deal
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 01:25 PM
9

I guess it depends on how much you think they are approached. It’s a relative statement.
/r/seduction24/09/22 01:06 PM
1

Rhetoric means you know the answer and pretend you’re clueless. In your case it sounds like the latter is true.
/r/seduction24/09/22 01:05 PM
31

Attractive women don’t get approached near as much as it would seem.
/r/seduction24/09/22 12:42 PM
3

It’s very rare to see a player who can’t get enough into their 50s and so on. The game is exciting and pivotal in terms of opening access to experiences and connections, but it’s not the end goal. Most of us crave connection even more than sex, especially as the hormones settle and the upper head begins to drive the boat. Some of us don’t even desire sex with tons of women, just the ability to be with the ones we really like… which tends to be much easier after a good amount of experience.
/r/seduction24/09/22 12:41 PM
0

I can’t think of any other way to put it. Your question is rhetorical.
/r/seduction24/09/22 12:33 PM
1

Red pill acknowledges that equality is a pipe dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 09:27 PM
0

People use “commitment issues” and “fear of commitment” interchangeably. It’s always used in an accusative, negative manner. No one uses those words to mean “choosing what’s best for oneself”. Don’t gaslight.
/r/TheRedPill23/09/22 05:51 PM
1

Change those things
/r/seduction23/09/22 02:32 PM
0

There is no such thing as commitment issues. There is only instinctual or mistaken belief that you are committing to the wrong thing. It can be saddening to realize that everything is temporary, but it’s liberating to realize that it’s just your turn… she’s not “yours”. Whether it’s life and death or growing apart, nothing is permanent but instead of looking at this darkly, realize that every bit of effort you put in and that you inspire in her contribute to making a thing grow and last.
/r/TheRedPill23/09/22 12:27 PM
2

Yea it may seem a bit nihilistic, but from what I’ve seen, the only way a woman ends up happy and stays happy in a relationship is when she perceives that her man is of high relative value and that his value is increasing at the same or better rate than hers. Very simplistic but as a rule of thumb it holds up. The takeaway is just as a man doesn’t usually pick an average girl in his eyes and hope she will get in shape, learn makeup and style, and become better at head etc. He knows that looks fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 12:04 PM
2

Not at all. Very often, reading something a second time illuminates it. I should mention two things though… I’m not implying you should torpedo the relationship immediately… only you know what kind of urgency it demands. However, don’t think you can prod him to be a better man (nor should you feel that burden), because only a self made man is sure of himself and even if you drive him to become something insanely different, you’ll never fully respect him because he needed you to make him that way…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 04:59 AM
2

I think I misinterpreted your tone… on both accounts. Your humble attitude is admirable. I think you have better things ahead regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 01:48 AM
1

I’ve done the laundry since I was maybe 7 and I cook for myself and others whenever it makes sense. I raised a few head of beef and sold it when I around 12. I cut grass to pay for computer science in college and then joined the marines, deploying three times and becoming a parachutist and diver with something like 50 dives. I used the GI bill to finish with a bachelors and interned in Europe. I joined a govt agency and went to Afghanistan and did mobile protection for five years and got my body…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 01:28 AM
3

They aren’t labels they are traits and everyone exhibits some combination of them in various contexts. That’s the whole reason the terms were coined… they describe shit everybody does. It’s called language.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 03:44 PM
7

Odds are they aren’t the result of cold approach either. The most common way people hook up is through social circle.
/r/seduction22/09/22 12:50 PM
2

Nice
/r/seduction22/09/22 12:43 PM
8

Only if you’ve already dated in person. Don’t be FaceTiming a new chick who won’t meet. You’ll regret it.
/r/seduction22/09/22 12:40 PM
9

But there is no less sex. Just less for the less attractive. For the players and the women who play along, there is more than enough to make up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 11:28 PM
2

It’s not “fair” between men and women because our goals are not the same
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:59 PM
6

Irrelevant to the question. They asked about even playing field not fairness of ability or outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:03 PM
57

One gender of homosexuals. Sorry there’s no substitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 04:06 PM
4

And their egos are not inline with their self esteem. Regardless, whether you think it translates to ego or not, modern dating and the internet have given women the idea that they deserve or can attain much higher quality men than is realistic. This is the cat lady phenomenon, but it’s exploding.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 04:04 PM
12

Women have grown massively inflated egos in recent decades and RP is simply claiming that men can even the field again by using a realistic approach rather than continuing this pedestalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 10:10 PM
1

That’s exactly what it means. The acronym only exists because it’s easier to remember.
/r/seduction20/09/22 07:35 PM
1

It usually it is, but it’s the softball of shit tests
/r/seduction20/09/22 10:57 AM
3

To a degree, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 10:54 AM
1

It’s not just “busy” it’s busy with other girls. You still need the mindset shift to where you don’t give off bestie vibes. All girls want orbiters and even if you’re attractive the minute you let them peg you for orbiter material you are gay bestie or nobody to them.
/r/seduction20/09/22 01:20 AM
11

Tinder doesn’t make more HB9s it makes the 7s look and feel like they are 9s
/r/TheRedPill20/09/22 01:19 AM
12

Settling for someone because they also chose to settle is not “winning”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 01:18 AM
24

Both men and women who are less attractive are more likely to value long term security because neither has a super easy time finding a new squeeze
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:45 AM
2

True but neither feels the need to hide their true feelings as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:41 AM
2

Jon and Robb appealed to younger chicks
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 09:35 PM
1

Men don’t date pornstars because they’re insecure or suck at pulling. If all men had access to pornstars a solid majority would give it a shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 09:28 PM
1

It’s not just “busy” it’s busy with other girls. You still need the mindset shift to where you don’t give off bestie vibes. Al girls want orbiters and even if you’re attractive the minute you let them peg you for orbiter material you are gay bestie or nobody to them.
/r/seduction19/09/22 01:29 PM
22

The one thing I don’t think holds up is the idea that HB9s become more prevalent. HB9 isn’t a function of technology (at least yet), it’s a product of competition.
/r/TheRedPill19/09/22 12:50 PM
1

Horror can be hit or miss, but sexy shows like that one are better.
/r/seduction18/09/22 10:27 PM
1

Not that you should put much faith in this, but I’ve done fairly well with American horror story hotel… lots of hot people (both men and women), early scenes of vampires and orgies but it doesn’t feel like a porno, it’s classy.
/r/seduction18/09/22 09:26 PM
3

Usually none, but the most successful use tricks similar to those “fuck a fan” scenes and make it seem like “so you’re saying there’s a chance” That said, the best cam girls (I believe this was Tate info) are just good at being “e-friends” in the chat and guys are vulnerable to that kind of pretend connection too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 08:52 PM
8

True but it’s only a useful marker if you are failing to escalate and work the logistics. If she’s into you she wont be obstinate forever but she isn’t going to do the legwork for you.
/r/seduction18/09/22 06:45 PM
2

We do love to get close but we don’t want to be rugged. For you rugging means he only wants you for sex, so it’s hard to wrap your head around the desire to avoid being wanted for everything but sex only. If a girl dogs us enough, she will be eager to get busy, not that it has to be the first night, but from a man’s perspective, the only way to be sure a woman is actually hot for him is if she can’t keep her hands off him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 06:39 PM
2

Then just hit her up. Seriously people get busy and especially if she’s in another country she probably didn’t expect to ever see you again… she didn’t want to be let down by getting too attached if that were the case.
/r/seduction17/09/22 05:17 PM
2

It’s simple… anything that aligns with the pua perspective. A big part of DHV is treating them like a little girl almost like your little sister in terms of teasing and being lighthearted but positive and never negative. Anything easy like “aww it’s ok I don’t bite” but you have to be super chill and chuckle or wink as well. Your goal is to let her feel you understand her, you aren’t bothered by her nervousness and it’s ok because your cool and “safe”. You won’t make her feel bad if she doesn’t …
/r/seduction17/09/22 04:33 PM
3

Sure this isn’t u/previouslybannedaccount
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 01:03 AM
2

As soon as you walk in there you are the latter by default
/r/seduction16/09/22 08:48 PM
1

You can’t just add an edit after the fact and pretend you aren’t talking about a strip club. Regardless, you can certainly pull on these scenarios but it’s a pro level game. If you’re a master of cocky funny confident and dominance in appearance and behavior you just have to marry that up with zero neediness, and ideally don’t spend a dime on them or you’ll erode your own progress.
/r/seduction16/09/22 08:29 PM
2

Read yareally he had a lot of examples of group opens and some are solo some with a wing
/r/seduction16/09/22 08:23 PM
1

I think the advice reads like this because most guys err on the side of fixation and alienation of others. You don’t have to ignore at all, but you have to begin with a very broad focus
/r/seduction16/09/22 08:22 PM
1

As an introvert I think the biggest challenge is becoming the kind of person with the methods and ideas this requires. Not everyone can be a magician or a rockstar… but you need to find something extroverted that fits your personality.. that’s congruent. You must become an entertainer… like literally think of showbiz. For us it never feels normal at first, but with practice we can literally expand our range of character. I’m actually interest in drama school and I realize this craving to branch …
/r/seduction16/09/22 08:19 PM
2

Dude your gf should be suspicious you might be sleeping around.. that’s rule one of dread. Give her reassurance all you want, but the potential there is a major factor in keeping her hot for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 06:24 PM
1

When a guy like me says curves he means hourglass not fupa. They are different things. i know all these chicks are identifying as "curvy" but most of them are deluding themselves when they are essentially one big "curve"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 07:11 PM
1

Curvy is a different thing; everyone likes good proportions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:56 PM
2

This reminds me of Rollos “never give her a reason not to fuck you” the assumption being when girls meet you they only know if they would not fuck you. If they fee like they could then it’s like running through a minefield where she’s looking for any clue that you aren’t worth fucking and all you need to do is shut up and game her as low effort as possible.
/r/seduction15/09/22 02:05 PM
9

How could you possibly use this advice effectively? Wait a few years to see if every chick gets cold sores here and there?
/r/seduction14/09/22 04:42 PM
1

It could be but it’s hard to be sure where her mindset is coming from. She could be alpha widowed, or she could actually be so flooded with distress temporarily from being dumped that she doesn’t have her bearings yet.
/r/seduction14/09/22 02:36 PM
-4

Women always claim to want something a bit more “rosy” than their actions demonstrate. Take whatever a particular woman describes as her ideal… she’s attracted to something a little more dangerous and and exciting than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 02:31 PM
2

I’d say there are different levels of “promiscuous” so yea if OP is talking about extreme, 3 digit n counts, it doesn’t hold up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 02:28 PM
11

Exactly and it’s fascinating how ignorant they can be… they do these things to mate guard but completely forget that the same thing attracted them when they were the new girl.
/r/seduction13/09/22 07:05 PM
1

Yea I bet what he said was a bit more involved
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 06:55 PM
1

Neither girl matters until you practice having balls and doing what you want.
/r/seduction13/09/22 06:13 PM
1

It’s a different thing than “in love” for the exact definitive reasons you state.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 06:08 PM
2

What is love?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 06:07 PM
1

I love my BPD ex unconditionally but I can’t live with her. That’s why she’s an ex. When you go through a lot with someone and become Their support through healing processes you don’t just forget that you cared about them. It doesn’t mean I don’t love this person, just that I am not romantic about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 06:04 PM
1

The point is it’s not a feeing of “upset” it’s literally disgust. People are upset when you cheat or are mean to them. You can love someone dearly and be upset. Disgust is far more visceral.
/r/seduction13/09/22 05:51 PM
3

China is fascist not collectivist. It’s really Marxist in name only.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:19 AM
2

Let’s be honest. Nobody is afraid of upsetting somebody. They are afraid of being turned down.. rejected.. a simple “not interested”. The reason approaching is skewed is men are more likely to be reckless while women hate that feeling of being considered “not good enough” with every fiber of their being. They often wish to change this but in reality it’s more stressful for them.
/r/seduction13/09/22 05:49 AM
3

Collectivism is literally the political manifestation of feminine thinking… group identity and trying to make sure no one is uncomfortable. Masculine politics is more practical, leave people to be independent even if it means taking risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:41 AM
1

Not sure if it’s brilliant or not but I just tell the truth while leaving it to the imagination: “let’s see where it goes.. if there’s a spark anything could happen”
/r/newTRP13/09/22 01:08 AM
2

Because men have this notion that they'll get laid more if they are in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:48 PM
3

Isn’t it just a matter of following leads until they dead end or not? Like an investigation… follow up on potential all witnesses with the mindset that they might all be valuable but knowing and prepared for many to end up being time wasters.
/r/seduction10/09/22 04:23 PM
1

Plate status max regardless of what she tells you she did or does with other men. Still likely she doesn’t have enough respect for it to be even a better positive experience for you, but you might be able to sense it after a few hangs/escalations
/r/newTRP10/09/22 04:19 PM
1

And so his SMV is not really lower. That’s my leaning
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 02:32 AM
1

Which is why these SMV comparisons only count when the honeymoon goggles come off. If he’s objectively of lower SMV to her, she is going to go nuts eventually. Hypergamy takes no prisoners.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 07:23 PM
3

If she finds him insanely attractive then he is not of lower SMV. Womens interpretation of looks is subjective (as was mentioned), but the SMV of a man is just as subjective as it depends on type as well as game which is essentially invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 07:21 PM
1

Still better to throw in amused mastery and just chuckle but you do have to be able to deliver it naturally.
/r/seduction09/09/22 07:12 PM
1

Odds are she will never ask. My first time she did not believe I was a virgin (of course I had to be bluepill and I thought being noble and honest would pay off long term). RP perspective just means while you are better off minimizing deception and being honest by default, you are also better off not volunteering details about yourself that reveal your weaknesses. Girls will read lots of good things into mystery if you can maintain some, and if for some reason specific questions come up, have yo…
/r/newTRP09/09/22 01:28 AM
1

Like I said, lower SMV. In other words, smart professional and healthy girls but no more than 6s on the scale objectively. I’ll be honest I did get fairly lucky with the genes, but I also went from scrawny glasses nerd in a computer science major to special operations and 15 more years of heavy lifting. Being bullied in school gave me my deep craving for transformation and I just made some “reckless” choices. I only wish I had been pulled back then… I would have much more wisdom by now and defin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 12:14 PM
2

We travel constantly.. a lot of nights at the hotel bar for whatever reason. Typically I approach it like buddy time whether they are male or female since we work as a team. The unique thing about work relationships is everyone knows we are all masking our sexuality to be professional, so people try to read between the lines a lot. If everyone is kind and professional, it tends to work out. I think light crushes are more common than anyone wants to admit and usually fuel a positive work atmosphe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 12:09 PM
1

You’re exactly right… even “I don’t feel like it” is brutally blunt to a woman. Only tip I might add is when it comes to survival, a little blue pill bullet dodging is fine. Meaning if you think being alpha in a certain situation could get your car bricked or you shot, you avoid it in whatever way possible. The smart man survives. Nobody is alpha of the world, we all have to maneuver into lifestyles and social circles that allow us to exercise our alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 12:01 PM
2

In my experience when a girl is overt she is more than “workplace friendly”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 11:55 AM
2

Lmao
/r/newTRP05/09/22 06:38 PM
4

Trust me it’s stupid from our side but a lot of women have this notion it would be an honor to take over raising their babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 06:38 PM
1

Yea I agree. I’m not flirting with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 06:37 PM
2

Im govt and they have zero effect on my leadership. I’m not worried about any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 06:35 PM
18

It’s fairly obvious you’re just a douche bag. Humblebrag all you want, your success is completely despite being callous to coworkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 01:23 PM
8

And… you work at a new ER. Doesn’t sound like this paid off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 01:14 PM
1

That’s what I usually do. I don’t throw money myself or even get dances… but the girl I bring enjoys being “sponsored” to do it.
/r/newTRP05/09/22 01:12 PM
21

I’d probably find a less personal reason… mothers fucking love their babies. It might seem like pure rational thinking from a guy but it’s a personal insult to the mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 12:15 PM
10

“I say no, we probably shouldn’t.” One was def drunk enough to infer that I was looking out for her but I don’t know. She’s been excited when we bump into each other, but you don’t know if it’s a facade.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 12:07 PM
5

Haha yea this used to be the extent of my “game”… needless to say at that time I was not getting any action. Being too cool for school is shooting yourself in the foot without establishing value first.
/r/seduction05/09/22 11:00 AM
1

You are correct, you should treat them the same. That’s not what was talking about.
/r/seduction05/09/22 10:41 AM
1

Just moved out last year… would have been down.
/r/seduction04/09/22 10:36 PM
3

I was talking about the opposite. abuse could be demanding sex but so can manipulating with emotional outbursts etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 09:58 PM
0

I said nothing about simping or how you treat them. Read my comment. It’s not going to be some cakewalk just because she thinks you’re hot if she is hot enough herself that she has to keep her guard up for everyone. You think it’s a waste of time if she’s not open immediately but this is not true at the highest tiers.
/r/seduction04/09/22 09:53 PM
3

That kind of sex doesn’t benefit your testosterone it dampens it. Marriage kills testosterone long before the sex ends.
/r/seduction04/09/22 09:25 PM
1

When you’re gaming 8-9s this is false. Shit testing is almost universal at that level.
/r/seduction04/09/22 08:14 PM
3

DC has tons of free museums that are packed with all kinds of people. They are all on the mall which swarms with people all summer. Food trucks, picnic spots, running paths, just do stuff, go everywhere, and break the ice with everyone. If they’re cute, throw in a little extra attention.
/r/seduction04/09/22 06:09 PM
2

You are literally describing day game and cold approach.
/r/seduction04/09/22 12:59 PM
8

These two things are not good equivalents but you have illustrated perfectly the double standard. Emotional outbursts and manipulation are hell to live with but “don’t require consent” yeah because people scream and whine without permission all the time… doesn’t mean it’s your human right to. Moderate levels of “I want monkey sex” or “I want a shoulder to cry on” are totally normal, but when either is traumatizing, abuse is a abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 12:14 PM
-1

You are close to the mark in your observation, but neither of these are wrong. This is our fundamental nature formed through survival of the fittest.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 12:08 PM
1

Over 2000 bars and over 20000 cafes in the city. Just go out. If you must, check Snapchat heat maps.
/r/seduction04/09/22 10:49 AM
0

Seriously! It’s nuts.. I used to waste so much emotional energy feeling sorry for dudes.. especially friends whose wives light up around you and you just know the bedrooms are dead. Everyone needs som pilling… just pray it’s sooner rather than later.
/r/seduction04/09/22 03:43 AM
-1

I would assume it’s an ironic shirt… unless she was fat or old. Fat or old is the safe bet.
/r/seduction04/09/22 12:43 AM
0

Bullshit. It’s praxeology, not prescription, let alone promises.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:50 PM
1

Red pill is about opening your eyes and eschewing that kind of blind bullshit romantic love. It’s probably the leading cause of suicide not some measure of healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:40 PM
1

You’re a solid thinker
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 03:53 AM
1

50% of women despise 80% of men right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 10:03 PM
1

I’d have to say pursuing both temp and permanent connections with multiple women at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 10:02 PM
2

If you’re buff and attractive enough, the abundance and preselection potential of dozens of hot girls noticing you friendly with others could be quite a massive factor..
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 09:58 PM
1

I have that same intense drive to focus, be on purpose.. but more often than not I feel like I’m hiding behind that stoicism and hiding isn’t a good habit even if no one knows about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 09:55 PM
2

I think soulmates was the wrong word.. I should have said “care about most of them” like you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 09:50 PM
2

That’s the way I lean, but look around… it’s used commonly for anyplace you that would be inconvenient to stop going.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 09:10 PM
-1

I am here because I’m not sure I agree with those who constantly include gyms in this “where you eat” thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 09:08 PM
1

Exactly… but why does it have to be weird? a lion call it “weird” when he’s around a lioness he lost interest in?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 09:06 PM
2

You still haven’t presented a compelling example of this “shot your shot” scenario. Are you seriously so terrified of me2 that you think chatting up will inevitably lead to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 08:56 PM
1

Right.. I’m countering the opinions about “don’t even talk to girls at your own gym you might get me too’d”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 08:52 PM
1

Gym is somewhat understandable, but it’s just… like your opinion man… to a real boss, having positive interaction w hot women is just as important if not more so than a good “perfect” lift. To be honest I would bet good money the testosterone boost you get from working out surrounded by girls who might fuck you is far more than whatever weakness you think you experience from letting them distract you from the exercises.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 08:47 PM
1

So give concrete examples… of things that would cause problems in your bldg… and how much would it affect your life if you truly internalized self actualization.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 08:27 PM
1

The question is not risk but what are you risking
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 07:15 PM
1

This is a fascinating layer to the conversation. I agree that serial monogamy reflects a very female dating strategy, and perhaps it’s because it’s only when children are young that they intrinsically need a protector intensely. Over time it still makes sense for her to lock down a male provider but it doesn’t have to be the same one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 01:18 PM
1

I mean… it is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 01:11 PM
1

Of course it’s personal. My experience colors my perspective as does anyone’s. However, if your experience lines up with widely regarded principles of male and female thinking, then why not see who has had a similar experience? That’s really one of the primary purposes of this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 11:01 AM
1

I was loosely TLDRing the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 10:56 AM
0

It’s wayyy harder after being red pilled… and I bet that’s one of the major factors in the variation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 08:50 PM
0

You could cookie cutter this response to any opinion online ever. Bring something useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 08:46 PM
0

I believe this only happens when they lock you down and take you for granted. They don’t enjoy that state like men can, and it makes the shit tests compound and hypergamic sirens wail.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 08:44 PM
2

Sometimes it’s ego preservation and sometimes they just act out of their mistaken sense of things, I.e. when people get complacent they take you for granted and don’t realize what they are squandering until it’s too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 08:42 PM
-2

If you’re just going to interject willful blue pill ignorance as scientific fact we are not going to get anywhere in conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 08:40 PM
3

A) game is not the same as playing games. Gaming women is being the most attractive you can be as a man. Dread is a part of this, but rarely requires nuclear options. Men shouldn’t be complacent to the point where she’s completely “safe” (ie taking you for granted) either, because she will hate that too. Y’all need to ponder nuance and get an understanding of that. The ideal state for a man is enjoyment of accomplishments sprinkled with enough “lambo fever” to keep him busy bettering himself. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 08:29 PM
1

And I’m saying Im probably a fairly normal man and I can’t fathom how a male could be happy monogamous
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 08:22 PM
4

Do you think it depends more on who is more invested, not just by sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 04:12 PM
6

She literally told you she liked to imagine it was unique to her... read between the lines, women enjoy playing the game too, and even if the truth is you've done it all before, she is happy with her situation as long as you maintain that perception, i.e. make her feel like the only girl in the world (when you are with her).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 04:11 PM
3

This is very insightful. Don't forget the alpha widow element though... sometimes women would rather know you still think about them afterwards than receive attention from new but average dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 04:09 PM
1

I'm saying I have a perfectly healthy ability to connect with people on an emotional level. However, despite this "human" element, I cannot ever see one single person as the only one I care about or as a sole physical companion. The male drive to proliferate seems so counter to the idea of monogamy and tight family units.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 04:03 PM
2

I think we agree.. who's downvoting?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 02:48 PM
4

My girl is 45 and I tease her constantly. Sometimes she isn't even sure whether I'm serious or not, but I always smirk and she loves it. It feeds her emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 01:07 PM
0

But fairness is sexist! ​ TLDR: this is futile. Communication issues have nothing on the deeply divergent biological traits of the sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 01:01 PM
1

If I were Leo I’d be attached to all of them. And if the splits didn’t involve monstrous betrayal, I would retain that attachment. If one of you needs to move or she needs to play house, it’s only natural, and an alpha doesn’t need to cut off or “reject” her in order for his ego to survive. Serial monogamy makes sense of you live and die by mate guarding against Hypergamy. It makes no sense if you are a top dog with astronomical value and the ability to “lift dozens of boats” throughout your bes…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 01:39 PM
6

Right… based on the solipsistic stance that sex is a favor from one sex to another, not a mutual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 01:32 PM
24

You can’t win against Hypergamy+solipsism… anything men want is ridiculous eh 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 01:28 PM
10

Exactly. The sugar doesn’t need to be significant. There’s some element of kingliness to be able to shower material things, but the status of being with him and having his attention are the main draws.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 01:23 PM
2

The irony is that he is no longer a beast merely by choosing this. Your desire is natural, but the effect is no different. If a man of means gives up his own options, he is no longer the beast that made it sweet and savory to receive that undivided attention from.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 09:26 PM
1

No one benefits from “learning” they are ugly. Not only is it often subjective, actions speak louder. When nobody looks your way favorably, you fucking know it. To hear open ridicule only leads to depression… guy or girl. If it’s something you can improve like a haircut, inspire them with a “you’d look great in a Mohawk”. If they are patently ugly, they goddamn know it and can’t do anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 01:36 PM
5

This is the heart of the matter. While a gradual cultural shift is certainly a small factor, the majority of this phenomenon harkens back to women’s penchant for retroactive justification.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 12:03 AM
30

Yea no one is right to be offended by a “not my type” response and you don’t have to play billy beta just to retain friends. Be polite but maintain self respect by being honest or at least set in your decisions.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/22 04:44 PM
0

It’s the misogynists who are having the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 08:46 PM
2

Right. From average to gorgeous, women get so much attention they can’t fathom how hard it is for a man to “break into” a social circle after moving to a new city for work, or create one’s own social circle from the ground up. Once you’ve left your hometown and are past the school/college age, the only people who fall in your lap are work friends, who are all married or weirdos on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 10:46 PM
1

Men PREFER to date down you blockhead
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 04:28 PM
1

Yea those squalor dwelling hoarders and bedriddenly obese people’s would NOT be missed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:49 PM
0

This is why I don’t believe any “lifelong” relationship is possible without a woman involved who is either bisexual or completely comfortable with an open approach. Of course we look at mid twenties from the perspective of sexual preference initially, but if she is mature for her age, then she has more going for her than any attractive but mature woman does. The only advantage the LTR woman has is we men do develop parallel love for her (the mental and emotional parts) besides the physical. So i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 02:43 PM
1

That is very wisely counter culture these days honestly. I’m not sure if most of them would be obvious tho.. a lot of people with addictions are good at concealing 😒
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 02:11 PM
2

90% of men in LTRs use porn daily. Call it heavy or call it natural appetite like breathing and eating... semantics. I don't care. You have a very daydreamy perception of what a man's mind is juggling every minute of every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 03:56 AM
2

Yes. Most of us view sex differently than you. I.e. we take no offense at your desire to string things along and play coy for weeks/months but we correctly identify that personality trait as problematic in a sexual relationship. It takes years to know someone well, but only a few hours to know if they are worthy of trout DNA (at least in a psychological sense).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:18 AM
1

8) high N moms
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:14 AM
1

Seems like insecurity to investigate and have her detail her past. Technically it’s not reasonable for me to rule out all but virgins, but a low count is certainly healthy and bodes well for paternity. In other words, I don’t sit her down and interrogate but I do look for signs of flakiness and past trauma/abuse/promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:12 AM
0

GOLD
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 12:28 AM
1

You don’t realize that “no high n count” and “no heavy porn consumers” rules out every man with balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 11:27 PM
2

Bitching is not nagging. Bitching is being argumentative about your plans, which is nothing more than a test of your resolve… subconsciously she wants you to weather that storm because that means you are confident in your plans and that she can depend on you. Best part is when you grin and beat her frustration with your patience, you can “punish” her with spanks and she’ll be wetter than ever when you escalate. Nagging is being a mommy and haranguing you about the trash and the laundry and your …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 09:53 PM
2

Not at all. Dominate with patience and a good game plan for everything, and you’ll get maybe 10 seconds of bitching but the nagging will dry up the rest of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 09:39 PM
1

Yes.. not only does being ready for marriage require practice, but we tend to enjoy caring about women nearly as much as fucking them. Maybe some women are more for one than the other, but overall we want all the experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 09:22 PM
-2

Upvote #69 😎
/r/MarriedRedPill19/08/22 09:54 PM
1

Personality definitely matters. That guy just has a cringe level of niceness (from the perspective of female dating instinct)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 04:10 PM
1

Not sure I can agree.. not because I think its a precursor (like a hormone) to everything else. When I’m with an average girl I notice a lot more unsettled and sometimes even depressed feelings than when I’m with what I consider very attractive. I think biology wired is to value it so much that most people derive more happiness briefly receiving positive attention from a gorgeous person than an intense romantic and sexual encounter with a plain person (i.e. maybe you’re attracted but you “know y…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 06:30 PM
2

I wish there was a better word for it since FWB is usually taken as an insult. I like to say lover or squeeze in a lighthearted way. “a girlfriend of mine” works but it’s wordy and sounds awkward if you introduce her to people like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 08:31 PM
4

The perpetrator isn’t here asking for advice. That’s the only reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 09:51 AM
12

If she talks a lot of smack but jokingly, and is respectful and submissive in her behavior, then it’s just a demonstration of wit and only a fool would be intimidated or uncomfortable about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 11:31 PM
1

Not even sex is cheating unless you pretend you’re playing by the rules of monogamy. Most people are not mad enough to demand that their partner cease to imagine sex with another.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 04:15 PM
5

Honestly it might depend on how much respect she has for him before hand. He might be nerdy in certain ways but have so much talent and confidence that she’s getting her Hypergamy tickled… so when he emotes it’s still well within the balance. The thing is attraction is complicated. It’s one thing to walk in the room and generate wet panties, but it’s highly unrealistic odds. You can attract women in a layered manner which not only turns them on but gives them multifaceted appreciation for your c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:28 PM
1

Hypergamy is not good or bad it’s just how people are designed. I’m sure a lot of men bemoan it, but I don’t waste time on that. Everybody dies… don’t wast your breath saying it’s not fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:32 PM
1

Thanks brother
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 03:27 PM
0

Yes. Men care more about looks than anything. And men like me don’t want to depend on anyone else for their material or mental well being, so what’s left? Sexuality. Literally the only way in which a girl can enrich my life that is not true of family and friends is with her sexuality. So although I love fun smart kind respectful women, and these things are all part of the choosing, they are still not what makes women necessary to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 03:18 PM
1

Now you’re just making shit up because you can’t make RP look bad without putting words in its mouth. We don’t ever claim to be wholesome or into personality over looks either. It just sounds like you are derailing the discussion to reflect your personal perceived offenses.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 03:08 PM
1

I mean the approach of this discussion. Falling in love isn’t realistically qualified by checklists. I don’t see it as gloomy either.. I just observe that the feelings I got as a naive teenager were based in fantasy and that it may never be possible to return to that state once I’ve matured and learned so much about the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:21 PM
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It has nothing to do with quality. Hypergamy is specifically the strategy of aiming your mating practices at those who have the means to lift you up in wealth or status. They can be completely shitty people and still satisfy hypergamy a la trophy wives etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:18 PM
1

It’s literally exactly how I and I’m sure many of us found the RP ideas and realized our church only upbringing was a severely limited understanding. Based on your posts I don’t expect you to open your mind, but there is at least one person out there who will see this and take something from it. And that’s all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 12:39 PM
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It doesn’t matter what the technical definition is, Rollo and JP use it to correctly describe the tendency for women to value status in their mates far more than men do. Your egalitarian obsessed insistence is rooted in naive optimism and ignorance of evolved differences (tendencies) between the sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 12:22 PM
-1

Yea religion is problematic to a rational mind. A vow is by definition a nothing more than a way to compel another to do something that’s not in his best interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 12:12 PM
1

Gross Leveraging hopes and fears to manipulate a man into signing losing legal contracts is not healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:55 AM
3

This approach is way too specific and/or convoluted. Men feel in love for the same reason women do… there’s a sense that what they are seeing is the best they can hope for. Whether it’s lust or adoration, it’s a delusion that feels great but is unrealistic for a man until you are well into your decline. In your 20s and 30s the odds that you’ll find better are still far greater than not, so you likely cannot be red pilled and actually “in love”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:51 AM
1

but you're an amateur murderer on the mic
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:15 AM
3

It’s not “dwelling” on the past to evaluate potential mates based on past behavior, it’s the bare minimum of common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:25 AM
1

Yea his insecurity is so cringe. I like his brother’s attitude much better. They’re both a bit cliche but at least you can learn some really good shit from an example like Tristan.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 09:39 AM
15

Exactly. Abuse enters gradually. More often than not, the misogyny is part of the attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 07:13 AM
1

Women are raised to prioritize what makes them most attractive to men? Sounds like natural selection. Who knew
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 01:53 AM
1

Good that you clarified this. Now there's very little I disagree with here. Good, thorough input, miss.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:56 PM
1

I like Tristan because he exhibits exactly the character I consider worthy of pursuit. Andrew, however, reeks of insecurity. From the loudest mouth comes the most shit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 07:55 AM
1

Rich cooper?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 07:35 AM
1

Most literally aren’t self respecting. Also, in most cases, the girl is feeding the craving to keep getting attention. The cases you’re frustrated by are a shit sandwich but not the vast majority of men they just make their presence feel incessant.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 06:48 AM
5

In my experience it’s the self improvement that is the most rewarding. It does require iterations, experiences, perhaps notches… but I bet you can get there more efficiently by gaming only the most attractive girls you can stomach and though your “orifice” count will be lower, you are probably better off. The only hookups I regret are those where I was shooting for an easy lay just because. In hindsight I’d much rather have had a positive interaction with a 9 who I ended up not hooking up with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 01:51 PM
1

Honestly I think the craving is to be that charming, successful type… not necessarily to have the notches. The trouble is you can’t be good with women unless you experience a lot of them. It’s even more difficult to become that dude who can eye his exact, super hot type and just pull her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 01:36 PM
1

Not an ass man eh… can’t Botox yourself a perfect booty
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 05:49 PM
1

This is what I'm getting at. I think it was actually Patrice on my mind because the way he drops "sweetie" in a respectful but affectionate way with other guests or radio call-ins is just butter in my opinion. The only thing I'm not sure of is whether or not I'm big enough, black, enough, southern enough for that word XD Any words you think work for a 6/6/6 jock type?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 08:50 AM
1

Ever since boot camp, same same… I always wondered if it’s just martial habit or because basic is a southern institution.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 11:16 PM
1

Alright wonder woman
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 11:14 PM
1

DCA half of it into BTC and tech stocks this summer would be a no brainer.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 05:48 PM
1

Maybe I was meant to be born down further south...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 10:33 AM
2

You’re absolutely right about workplace and attraction. It actually makes me less likely to ask someone out if they are working.. nothing beats genuine response. I forgot about miss.. that one is a slick way to be technically platonic but indicate that you don’t think of her as a ma’am or mrs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 08:55 AM
1

I like this and I wish it were more universal. It’s helpful to be able to show interest short of being sleezy but more than “cordial” like sir/ma’am
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 08:49 AM
2

Like in a rude way?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 06:48 AM
1

How would one name you based on dress?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 06:42 AM
2

You’re a dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 06:40 AM
6

I hear you man. I'm well into six figures and very much advantaged physically, but it is incredibly slow for me simply for the fact that I hesitate, freeze, or simply don't leave my house. I spent decades on books and computer games on top of being raised as a nice guy. I don't believe it's ever too late so I'm taking a lot of steps to re-wire my brain, but it feels like an incredible mountain to climb at nearly 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 05:48 AM
4

Go back to thebluepill
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:41 AM
6

You had me until the last bit. If girls didn’t have sex without commitment they will never get with a high value man because he’s not waiting around.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:03 AM
2

And apparently clueless
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 04:36 AM
2

Mighty white knight of you sir
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 12:08 AM
3

and?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:59 PM
9

Exactly. Women loathe losers, and even a badass who’s hurt and “opening up” starts to feel like a loser rapidly. Typically women will have girl friends with whom they commiserate but a guy friend that’s depressed is dropped like a bad habit. They can’t help but absorb the emotions of men they like otherwise… and that can hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:23 PM
2

It is not that sex taints a woman, it’s that the more partners she’s had, the more likely she is to be alpha-widowed to some degree, and you will never ever know this when you first meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 09:19 AM
1

I have experience but no baggage. I don’t want women with baggage, and normally experience = baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 09:16 AM
1

Serious and committed are completely separate things. RP just reminds you how to approach things so that you can maintain attraction and explains why things go wrong. It urges you not to “commit” unconditionally, but there is no reason you can’t have serious and deeply emotional relationships just because you don’t pretend you can’t and won’t do better if they are no longer mutually beneficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:32 AM
0

You’re joking
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:09 AM
1

When women hear the word hate they mostly going to think of the feeing they get around cruel or creepy guys and losers. What guys usually mean is things like brattiness or being offended, which are not really signs she hates you but more that she’s frustrated. Frustration that you don’t bend to her manipulation or cannot be tamed might make her act out but on the inside, it makes her crave you because it signals constance and stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 04:10 AM
1

Not at all. Especially not for a man it isn’t. We spend time on people we like but only “love” when we decide to and this makes us more prone to fixation. Men will continue to try to fix a sexless marriage for decades because they’ve convinced themselves she’s the one, even when she’s demonstrated she could never respect him anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 04:01 AM
1

You can love what you don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 11:13 PM
2

You hear hate and you think of something different than what we are taking about. When girls are crazy for you and say they hate you at the same time it’s a completely different thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 02:01 PM
1

Providing an exciting experience for a woman means balancing uncertainty with comfort. If you only keep her guessing, you’ll excite her for a while but it’s unstable chemistry. Be both it the right amounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 01:44 PM
-1

You represent most people, and most people do not appreciate RP awareness. If you’re able to be happy with average then you’re luckier than many of us, honestly. But those of us who aren’t, can’t go back.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 01:42 PM
5

My favorite kind. When a girl is eager to get down with me I don’t thing she’s easy I think she’s smart and appreciate the honesty.. she’s not trying to trick me. Maybe it’s different if a guy fees like a loser…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 01:28 AM
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Pretty sure the only difference between a girl who wants casual and one who wants ltr is whether you, the guy, seem like a guilty pleasure or ltr material.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 01:24 AM
1

She sounds woke AF and I mean in the literal sense. Brava grandma
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 12:11 AM
2

Where does one get friends like you 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 11:37 PM
0

It takes guts to put this out there but what you describe is basically the only fair compromise between male and female. A woman needs to be a priority and have that security and a man needs novelty and adventure. If both can be kept in balance it can last much longer than if one or the other is getting their way for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 11:34 PM
9

I’ve only been pilled 6-7 years IIRC but once you realize it’s an immutable aspect of life, you can gradually learn to allow yourself to love and enjoy being close to women… you just need to maintain that realization and mentality that it won’t be forever. Opened eyes can make it feel like a doom cloud sometimes and there is none of the pure bliss you felt when you were 13 and fantasized being with your crush forever. Unfortunately I think being happy is not necessarily the main goal of life. It…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/22 01:43 PM
2

Yet that is exactly what most women end up doing in order to secure better and better mates (according to theory). It’s not ethical to lead someone on, but we all end up doing it in the end. The difference is women have developed a very active rationalization center in their minds in order to not be left out of the tribe just because she didn’t want to “lead on” a middle-provider. RP is not just about changing behavior but recognizing what we do already and being honest about it. In the end, alm…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 06:16 AM
1

The way I read it, find the most attractive one you can manage and you’ll more likely be able to continue upgrading.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 05:56 AM
1

(which means an army of docile incels)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 07:46 PM
3

It’s not messed up. Creepy means risky. Men think that the worst risk is being raped, attacked, murdered. Women feel like the worst risk is falling for a loser. The only confusion is because we assign our own priorities to the other gender forgetting our values are completely different (and it’s natural).
/r/TheRedPill04/07/22 08:48 AM
20

The truth is few people are what you’d call “good” at sex. For your first few you only need to copy a couple moves from Johnny sins or whoever and she won’t be able to tell. And no, they virtually never ask… girls tend not to ask questions they don’t want the answer to. They start questioning things when they have reasons to be suspicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:30 AM
1

Yea.. trapped until they decide to split. That’s the point.. not that they ARE trapped, they FEEL like it. Women are more polyamorous because they can be. Most men don’t get much at all, some men are getting most of it. This is foundational stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:49 PM
1

Hypocrisy is common for sure. That part isn’t my problem though. I may be late 30s but I spent all of that time building my mind, abilities and future. No marriages, STDs, or children, just military time, diplomatic work, academics, house flipping, etc I am interested in women who are complementary to my path in life and I have no shame in pursuing similarly unburdened mates.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 09:20 PM
1

You're not wrong... if a predator is looking for prey, it looks for the weakest and most naive (AKA innocent). A school shooter is hoping for a room full of peace loving pacifists right? But so are peace loving pacifists. Just because something is unmarred doesn't make it wrong to desire it. I believe the vast majority of guys view something like 22-23 as the peak of desirability, as in the height of physical attraction + low probability of being a trainwreck i.e. baggage. 18 is some arbitrary n…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:05 PM
1

"less life experience" you mean less PTSD and toxic exes, fewer children and debts
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:34 PM
1

My grandparents were 7 years apart. ​ Isn't that something... my anecdote is better than your anecdote.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:21 PM
1

And it was essentially rhetorical
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:44 AM
1

This was my point exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:46 PM
2

I actually wind up dating this type because it’s more fun when you aren’t worried about the baby trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:45 PM
3

Statistically, women are more likely than not to be stuck with a man they despise. Just because people do something at a similar rate does not mean they’re motivated by the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:40 PM
2

I would get a vasectomy tomorrow if I was sure there wouldn't be negative consequences in terms of bodily health and psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:21 PM
4

You are going to respond sexually in a different way to the guy who politely lays out his cards on the table vs the guy who certainly is into you and will make your life more fun might not be completely up front. You can pretend we are all equal and rational, but on the whole, our behaviors belie this. Smart people pay far more attention to what others do vs what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:19 PM
2

However, one major aspect of the pill is the understanding that women are less likely to be concerned about their man's monogamy as a man is concerned about his woman's. At a very basic level, we have different mating goals and at best a compromise is the only way to find balance. There are outliers of course, but there is no perfect solution because nature didn't give us a parallel distribution of "poly" and "monogamous" minded individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:16 PM
8

This man does not understand womens brains. Bonus points don’t make anyone happy OR sexually successful. EDIT: this is not in response to OP. Some of you need to pay attention. I posit that women don’t need monogamy to be happy, thus the point is moot. This is similar to the theme of “Sex at Dawn” if anyone has read that. Monogamy is a primarily human social construct; very few animals engage in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:29 PM
5

I don’t call it binary like this… I don’t fuck anyone repeatedly I don’t like having around. “More” than sex is relative, and more doesn’t equal permanent
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:25 PM
5

If anything RP insight removed any resentment I had towards the women who rejected me. Immediately it was obvious why they were motivated to avoid me back then, and I never blame someone for acting in their own best interest within reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 02:14 PM
3

This kind of well thought out opinion is what makes PPD so useful. Both blue and red pill perspectives often need tempered with some pragmatism and context.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 09:51 AM
2

Yea It’s not all or none, it’s a hormonal/mental difference that affects every human to some degree or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 09:47 AM
5

Your aunt is into you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:05 PM
2

I also enjoy "working out"
/r/seduction18/06/22 05:37 PM
2

The “leading on” is in reference to the fact that if she’s trying to string him along without sex, she isn’t attracted enough anyway and is using him for dates and validation. There’s no debt to pay, just red flags that go up when you’re wasting your time. I don’t hold to the mandate that she will jump your bones immediately if she’s into you enough, as so many of us are conditioned or have very strong determination to follow certain paths, but generally if you haven’t warmed her up by the third…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:20 PM
1

You’ve heard the phrase that guys will fuck anything with two legs.. it’s almost the same concept
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 10:57 AM
1

It’s “roundabout” because men and women are so different. Obviously there is no perfect equivalence between us, but the hunger women have for validation and attention is almost exactly the same as mens hunger for getting off physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 07:39 AM
1

They don't always date up, they always wish they were dating up. Men don't necessarily wish to date down, but they can easily find dating down worth it.. especially in conjunction with variety/numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 06:43 AM
1

According to OP there's no indication that any of what you said is the case. They knew each other for a long time before they fucked and there's no other reason to think she's "promiscuous".
/r/TheRedPill08/06/22 08:07 AM
-1

Everyone here seems to have a decent understanding of the pill, you just have no sense of nuance. A girl that comes around and gives it up (and not on the first date either, after knowing you for a while) doesn't automatically disqualify herself. And a fundamental part of redpill awareness is viewing yourself as of higher value than all women. Not that this is factual, but it is the mindset you must adopt if you want to be successful. This means that literally every woman you sleep with will be …
/r/TheRedPill08/06/22 07:17 AM
9

The fact that she responded positively to RP mindset makes her low value? What qualifies as high value to you… someone who doesn’t exist?
/r/TheRedPill08/06/22 04:22 AM
3

Relative to men, not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:30 AM
1

The keyword is “redpilled”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 10:36 PM
0

Never reveal the game. Also, a woman hates the idea that we would discuss them with others... they want men to just "get it". It doesn't matter how flattering you go, she's disgusted by feeling like she's being revealed to others. Get better at anonymity.
/r/askTRP07/01/22 04:24 PM
12

You're thinking of three boys in a trenchcoat
/r/TheRedPill16/12/21 03:57 PM
7

I look like three trenchcoats inside a boy.
/r/TheRedPill16/12/21 02:33 PM
2

No no NO! AF and BB are the two angles that make us valuable to women and we are a ratio of both at any given time. Reddit bros will paint the picture that only AF matters because sex is typically the first thing on our minds and the ahrdest to get. However, the key to happiness is not just how to maximize sex. AF and BB are value measurements for you to hold up like a lens on your behavior so you can mature in tla way that you end up having an ideal ratio of both in light of your PERSONAL idea …
/r/TheRedPill12/12/21 03:41 PM
3

My notes from various readings: 3-4g improves NO2 levels 5g reduces Erectile Dysfunction 5-9g increased HGH
/r/TheRedPill09/12/21 12:34 AM
2

On the surface, it sounds like that. The truth is this is an observation. Men are more often the person hoping to keep things together forever and cheating is the only way they know to appease the drive to roam. Whether they are aware of this logic or not, their instinct is to find a situation where they can have stability in home life whilst enjoying freedom of sexual access (numbers, variety, kink, whatever tells the hindbrain they are "spreading seed"). Women are more often the person who see…
/r/askTRP17/11/21 08:30 AM
1

?
/r/askTRP24/10/21 09:24 PM
1

This is literally a tool in my toolbox… not sure why no one seems to write about it.. maybe I'm making newbie mistakes. Everyone in TRP harps on leaving girls behind who won’t or aren’t fucking you.. but pre-selection is priceless. If she is attractive and orbits you and isn't hindering you from gaming other girls, how is it not a net benefit? Is this really an unusual strategy?
/r/askTRP21/10/21 12:08 PM
1

I don't know your experience but in mine, plates who don't see you at least once a week are more likely to break. i.e. why be overly distant if you don't need to... to each their own, but 3-4 times once a week will keep you busy, but nothing takes up your time like sourcing a new plates so why lean so hard into being distant?
/r/askTRP21/10/21 11:48 AM
1

This man gets it.
/r/askTRP21/10/21 11:32 AM
3

You know exactly what's wrong (in your gut) and because of RP you can put it in words. Have no shame in pursuing what lights your fire. Just don't trick the guy that's never going to be good enough and things will improve for everyone involved. As you clearly are aware of, being with a guy who is not man enough in your eyes will always render you unhappy and the chance of him snapping out of it and improving to the point where you are awestruck is basically nil.
/r/RedPillWomen11/10/21 03:48 PM
4

So weird that it has to be considered a red flag... in my expwrience the only vocal promoters of this idea are post wall ladies or self rationalizing men. "Good" depends on your perspective, but even if I were a hardcore monogamous Christian zealot with the perfect character to father and lead a household, I would prefer 10-15 years younger simply because they are at the same place in life. Girls at 25 have plenty of sexual past nowadays, and I at nearly 40 have less than average but have invest…
/r/RedPillWomen08/10/21 11:39 PM
2

Nothing is a requirement, but lifting and the charisma of a cult leader are as close to cheat codes as it gets for attraction. That said, it is definitely a tooting the horn post with little how-to value whatsoever...
/r/TheRedPill08/10/21 08:46 AM
2

Yeah, in Jocko's voice... "good"
/r/TheRedPill08/10/21 04:47 AM
3

Absolutely the only way for a guy to let go of oneitis is for him to deal with it himself and any communication or response from you gives his obsession something to digest. It's just the way it is... he can wake up quickly like taking the pill or whatever, but odds are the only way he will let go is if the crush starves to death.
/r/RedPillWomen05/10/21 12:34 PM
4

Guys you're missing the point. Alpha widow pines for the guy who made her feel alive .. who is also bad for her, but she just needs a better alpha. She's disappointed in the guy who manipulated her with "I love you" too easily, but finding her best will make her forget all of these guys.
/r/RedPillWomen29/09/21 06:47 PM
1

This also leads into a greater abundance mentality and practice because no matter how many people parrot dad-bod BS, their subconscious still sees an intense power signal. Someone with that result has to have intense energy, drive, dedication... the kinds of things that can make a man a powerful dominant in the bedroom as well as on the battlefield or whatever. Size is great, and in a sense, larger guys who are not cut still can signal power, but all things being equal, it's no contest. When gir…
/r/askTRP14/09/21 10:07 PM
2

Shes not "big" she's just out of season as it were. Chubby chasers are looking for a lot more in general. Hard work is going to pay off in every area of life and she will be happier than if she just let go and accepted a future of surrender.
/r/RedPillWomen30/07/21 12:42 PM
2

I am a 6'3 235 lb male with relatively low BMI and 2000 is my precise cutting regimen. A woman half my size can do around 1200 no problem, it just needs to be predominantly a good balance of proteins and brain food (natural fats). 1000 might be a little tight but she needs to use a good metabolism calculator to see exactly how much fat she can mobilize daily.
/r/RedPillWomen30/07/21 12:35 PM
1

I like it. Bit I would reword a little bit. Rollo says "can't negotiate desire" in an explicit sense. You can't barter openly such as "if I do the dishes will you want me more". I don't believe he disagrees in any way that inherent desire can be added to, manipulated, or lost by our "leveraging" it. That makes complete sense.
/r/TheRedPill30/07/21 11:41 AM
8

Short of DNA modification, technology has nothing to do with biological evolution in the short term. We are mentally driven by biological incentives that take millennia to truly alter. This is literally the core of the red pill which is why I recommend you do the reading before trying to get answers here. Your take is normal it's just doesn't hold up to the RP litmus.
/r/askTRP30/07/21 11:27 AM
1

10 is nothing nowadays and this boy is blue pilled af and will never get over his ego problems until he red pills.
/r/RedPillWomen30/07/21 10:54 AM
1

Easy answer: you can't However, you can give him all your income (whatever it is) and let him do all the spending for both of you. Sounds crazy, but it's what you're practicing for if you both really share this vision of him working and you staying at home. Either he runs your world and thus provides for it, or you are equal partners. The real issue here is you are both broke and are financial equals. You want a relationship with a man who leads and provides, and you're dating a kid who is only …
/r/RedPillWomen25/07/21 01:08 PM
1

Remember that the wall isn't a literal thing that happens to you at a precise age, it describes the realization of aging that happens in your head. You're already ahead of it because you are aware and you can make the best of things by working hard on health and fitness throughout your life. The girls who are hot at 23 and live like it's forever crash and burn the hardest but those who balance healthy and sexual can turn 23 to 40 into a much smoother transition and there are plenty of examples o…
/r/RedPillWomen25/07/21 12:22 PM
1

That is literally still indirect, but it's so subtle a difference that yes, it's a good, non-awkward open.
/r/askTRP19/07/21 12:31 PM
-1

*men are simple in what they want from a woman
/r/RedPillWomen17/07/21 02:17 PM
1

This can be the best dynamic, but it's a balancing act that never "settles" without sinking itself. It's his job to remain disciplined and know how to say know so a stay at home woman doesn't just become spoiled and bitter, but she can certainly help by knowing what kind of things make it more fatiguing for him to maintain it. Like any person in a fully dependent situation a stay at home wife naturally wants more and more until she legitimately feels she should be treated like a trophy wife and …
/r/RedPillWomen12/07/21 02:18 PM
-1

What sub is this again?
/r/RedPillWomen12/07/21 02:45 AM
18

Yea whether you are red pilled or not, this 20 yo is not. Have fun while it's your turn.
/r/RedPillWomen12/07/21 02:13 AM
6

Either you're hung up on semantics which smells like trolling, or you really don't get the difference between men and women's reproductive strategies. You probably need to read Rollo still. Cheating isn't really the focus.. optimally no male would ever choose physical monogamy. The underlying principle is the different motivations men and women have for sex, i.e. "unlimited access to unlimited sexuality" vice single best hypergamic option. The question is already grounded on a fragile framework …
/r/askTRP05/07/21 09:28 PM
12

Agreed. The dopamine feed is off the charts when you edge. It's literally the most enjoyable alternative and worst routine for sexual drive possible. You end up spending hours stimulating and without nutting you just keep building the cravings until you have bouts where porn and stimulation doesn't even interest you, let alone the thought of pursuing women. Edging is useful if you have trouble lasting, but beyond that, you're just killing your "mojo" and not only will you find zero drive to go o…
/r/TheRedPill04/07/21 06:37 PM
2

..for at least an hour in the plumbing section of home depot cuz the fittings are never in the right boxes!
/r/RedPillWomen04/07/21 07:43 AM
7

That's why there's a sidebar folks. It's called a red pill because the world is not as it seems. Do your reading.
/r/askTRP04/07/21 07:36 AM
7

Onion: local newbie reads the introduction to the rational male and suddenly realizes he is an expert in human psychology.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/21 08:45 AM
1

This logic is all over the place and reads like Jordan Peterson talking points. Poignant and worthy of contemplation, but uncalibrated in an RP context. Anger can be terrifying long term, but in the context we are presenting, it is not. With an RP mindset, you should see how being terrified in a very short-term manner is not only arousing but can be in incredibly attracting in a long term sense when the object of rage is identified (whether injustice or bullshit). Your caveats are basically rela…
/r/askTRP22/06/21 01:15 AM
2

Solid. Ive seen it with girls 3-4+ smv points lower as well as cute chicks with real IOIs going. A) it's habit B) she feels creeped (for any reason) C) she likes you and hamster thinks that modesty signals are attractive 🤣 D) it's completely limbic and being around you makes her think sexually.. and she goes coy because she's nervous
/r/askTRP20/06/21 03:23 PM
1

The simple answer is girlfriends are more confident to flirt because they aren't nervous about where it's going. If your even slightly chaddish, you probably have the attention of a good portion of the girls you know, but the ones who are single have to play it cool because there's only one reason you're talking to them. The girlfriends might all want to bang but can easily fall back on "he knows I have a BF, we are just friends."
/r/askTRP19/06/21 07:25 AM
7

I think there's a way to divide this in terms of action and reaction. Any anger that is impatient or defensive falls under the insecurity category, but you can show rage and fury at injustice or bullshit where it's not like you are "threatened" by the thing but rather "righteously indignant" in a sense. Show brutal hostility towards incidents of bullying or malicious action, like if your are in a social circle and you can call out a creeper or weasel in a direct, explicit manner but not in a but…
/r/askTRP19/06/21 07:17 AM
1

TRP is by definition sexual strategy and should never be viewed as an ultimate value. It's only a tool and an awareness. As far as the species is concerned, sexual enjoyment means nothing compared to reproduction of survival traits, so to approach TRP as the highest aim bar none is to be selfish to the point of infinite hedonism, which is fine for the individual but also means severe degradation of the quality of future generations since the only offspring would be raised by blue pilled AFCs... …
/r/askTRP17/06/21 05:54 PM
1

The blue pill is essentially the idea that everything Hollywood and women raise you to think is what will pay off in the end. Basically every romance movie you grew up with told you that being a patient, available "gentleman" would get you the girl in the end... and this is the practical definition of orbiting.
/r/askTRP16/06/21 06:47 AM
-1

So your scientific data has no relevance to the question... brilliant
/r/askTRP16/06/21 06:31 AM
1

Both
/r/askTRP16/06/21 06:25 AM
5

If you run away from the military, you get dishonorable discharge.. that's standard. If you can't prove allegations, that's rough, but makes sense. On the other hand, commanders definitely cover shit up, and it's horrible but commonplace with a lot of stuff. The military is dictionary fascism. (and of course no place I would want a daughter of mine headed)
/r/askTRP16/06/21 06:25 AM
3

Good point, but Im pretty sure most fall under the split finances or "she gives you her salary in tribute" category. Is that your impression?
/r/askTRP16/06/21 06:05 AM
1

Your questiom is really good but you need to clarify early what you mean. I had to read the whole thing to know you meant asking for IG vs asking for # purely in a physical cold approach context. Edit your intro and it will make sense off the bat.
/r/askTRP16/06/21 05:57 AM
15

You're right and it's basic sidebar / rational male knowledge. Continue your research.
/r/askTRP16/06/21 05:50 AM
1

Especially early on.. when it's lowww 😁
/r/askTRP15/06/21 03:02 AM
7

It took around 3 years but I made it out of my LTR without a ring or dependents. I wish I had been quicker to make bold moves, but I'm in the process of full reboot and very grateful.
/r/askTRP15/06/21 02:57 AM
5

Listen to Patrice and take what you will from him, but maintaining that 10% disgust for your own girl is the only way to keep her off the pedestal in your perception. We are men.. we have no problem developing googly eyes for a girl. It's her flaws that we have to remind ourselves of to keep a balanced mindset.
/r/askTRP15/06/21 02:41 AM
5

She should.. it's called shit tests 101. Welcome it and learn to grin and let them glide past you.
/r/askTRP15/06/21 02:37 AM
8

I agree fully. It goes back to don't explicate, demonstrate. There have been many times I thought I was winning with logic and "laying down my ground rules" or whatever, but the instant she felt unappreciated or simply had the mensies in overdrive, the mere fact that I had laid out expectations was a weapon she would bring up and throw back at me. It was all about "male ego" etc. whereas where I had been more subtle and established the expectations by my behaviour she took them to heart with les…
/r/askTRP15/06/21 02:35 AM
1

It's a simplification but it holds.. just because you are calling the shots doesn't mean she's all yours. If a girl's gets a hint that you know you're significantly better than her she is angling for fallback options or at least planning for it. RP can make us feel invincible like no girl will choose to let go but they have serious damage control instincts and nobody likes to know they are the one being rejected or let go of.
/r/askTRP15/06/21 02:28 AM
6

The key with groups is to give the best friends a little distance so your primary thinks you're treating them like little sisters. If she's bi and brings one into reach, it's different, but just because #RP she isn't going to let you branch swing into her close circle. Nobody can just plate willy nilly no matter what, without astronomic status. In fact, even just having multiple plates requires a bit of mystery, until/unless she gets hooked enough to entertain group action, but that stuff is lon…
/r/askTRP09/06/21 04:34 PM
3

/s
/r/askTRP09/06/21 04:23 PM
9

It's not a red flag at all; you barely read OP. He never said she asked a question. The point of dread is exactly this.. she realizes she has to do something beyond "just being female" to keep OP interested. OP- yes, don't be too comfortable. Also, don't sperg on her with overthinking what she says or over explaining what you expect. Watch what she does and if it results in improvement then she's doing what she should be.
/r/askTRP09/06/21 04:19 PM
1

Yea honestly women have so many variables starting with menstrual cycle but beyond that there are so many reasons one particular night may not work out no matter what. Determination can work out or at least prove that she's not going to work for you.
/r/askTRP06/06/21 09:26 AM
4

True.. I matching a lot more attractive girls in LA than the east coast, but there is still a lot of entitlement and simple orbiter trawling is off the charts. (nothing beats in-person)
/r/TheRedPill03/06/21 10:22 PM
3

The bulk of advice would counter yours, but I've had this thought myself. In a sense it is lower investment to drop your number and move on.
/r/TheRedPill03/06/21 06:13 AM
1

Seriously why is this confusing you guys. Teasing is fundamental to game.
/r/askTRP02/06/21 01:26 PM
1

Can she meet halfway
/r/askTRP02/06/21 03:36 AM
-1

What's your point
/r/askTRP01/06/21 08:40 AM
1

I think he meant not even for himself in the first paragraph.
/r/askTRP01/06/21 07:27 AM
7

Unless the band is young hot guys..
/r/askTRP31/05/21 07:04 AM
1

This last sentence simplifies some things a lot. I've gotten to where I purposefully avoid looking directly at any girl in the gym unless there is proximity and the chance of a "hey whatsup" kind of moment. Any time I've locked eyes with some chick in the mirror or who is on a treadmill 25 yards away it's weird as fuck and I think you nailed the why. In other words, if you couldn't apply the 3 second rule, she doesn't exist. When you could apply the 3 second rule, give her the chance in a noncha…
/r/askTRP30/05/21 11:43 PM
4

Lol are you gaming in Lancaster, PA?
/r/askTRP30/05/21 10:38 AM
2

Hard next
/r/askTRP30/05/21 10:32 AM
4

Yes and I wouldn't even call it backfiring... that's abundance. If she responds well noticing your social interaction s, you use that to raise her temp and if not, you don't owe her anything and you can make whatever friends you like. If you're invited to a party and you bring your 6 pack or wine or whatever and also contribute to people having a good time, youre even... you aren't abusing the invite.
/r/askTRP30/05/21 07:58 AM
1

100%
/r/askTRP30/05/21 07:55 AM
14

I'm no expert but I tend to look somewhere else intentionally, like another chick or even my watch or something. Nothing as good as learning to hold, but confidence is huge.
/r/askTRP29/05/21 08:52 AM
3

This is sidebar stuff but also no help for guys like OP. No matter how cool and social and attractive you are you don't get laid by accident. I've gotten iois for decades but never once been invited out of the blue. It's possible that things are different for different types of man but I'm my experience girls will almost never initiate so it essentially always does come down to guys taking the risks. The best advice I could pose for this is to keep taking riskier and riskier actions from simply …
/r/askTRP28/05/21 01:36 AM
11

He said if you want a luxury car. Toyota is the highest quality vehicle and Lexus is their luxury line.
/r/askTRP27/05/21 05:41 AM
1

Trololo
/r/askTRP26/05/21 12:08 AM
1

I see what you're saying but this is literally the opposite if everything else in this thread... how can you be sure except that NAWALT.
/r/askTRP25/05/21 08:54 PM
1

I'm honestly only looking at Ford's rn with the bench seat up front 🤣
/r/askTRP25/05/21 08:50 PM
1

Hope you mean dessert 😄
/r/askTRP25/05/21 08:44 PM
1

For the naive... let's clarify that mysterious is good, but what we mean is don't just open up and spill all your weaknesses, fears and romantic daydreams. Its very easy if youre a dreamer and enjoy connecting with people. We don't mean be that cold, steely aloof guy who autistically gives ambiguous answers to everything, sulks in the corner, and is just no fun.
/r/askTRP25/05/21 08:29 PM
1

🤣
/r/askTRP25/05/21 06:19 PM
1

It's all relative... your market value to a high value man is plummeting based on age alone and if your attitude is entitled there's little left that would inspire a diCaprio/Pitt/Clooney (whatever your ideal is) type man to throw in with you over a 24 year old with no baggage or bitterness. If you're past the age of being trainable, you need to bring some serious selflessness/cool chick attitude or you're not worth the trouble. Sure, rationally, nobody wants their partner running buck wild behi…
/r/askTRP25/05/21 06:18 PM
2

Flaws or not, all the time and effort spent building your material value kept you busy and off the radar of the high value men around you during that time. What I can say is by translating that value into freedom (i.e. working less now), you could potentially develop yourself into an incredibly fun, sexy, wildcat of a companion which at least makes you ideal for 40s and 50s intellectual doms etc. and may even give you access to some closer to your age if you're adventurous enough (and of course …
/r/askTRP25/05/21 06:23 AM
1

Id say no need to tell her to stop texting, you can just leave it at "I'm pretty busy" and turn off notifications etc. But she is probably a bit entitled or was talked up to this by girlfriends (when the dish about you they tend to work each other up to irrational levels of BS drama). In those cases, however, they also tend to come around to remember what they're missing (sometimes). Sometimes they're just idiots or too full of themselves. But she might find you again down the road. If you want …
/r/askTRP25/05/21 06:01 AM
0

Louis didn't get canceled for pulling out and wotholding sex! Also, unlike most of us, his livelihood is public and dependent on public opinion. You are correct about the alpha widow of course. OP isnt going to turn her around.
/r/askTRP24/05/21 05:39 PM
3

I'm about to be in the same boat and I'm thinking about meetup groups and other ways to break into larger circles. However, I think the best investment is finding and cultivating BFF situations both male and female, primarily people who are also interested in making friends. This lets you breakthrough in bars and arcades more easily. Even one guy friendales it less weird to open a group of girls socially.
/r/askTRP24/05/21 02:12 AM
-4

You're not wrong. We just can't focus too hard on the risk of some psychotic reprisal. The chances are there, but rolling the dice anyway is what makes us men.
/r/askTRP24/05/21 01:54 AM
1

What we knoww is that cultural norms are the reason so many men are fucking miserable and need the red pill. Good luck with all this, but the minute you start justifying a primarily beta-provider existence based on culture or religion, you must know you are signing your own execution order.
/r/askTRP24/05/21 01:27 AM
5

WTF is this you need to read the sidebar. There is no such thing as a good girl and settling down only makes decent girls sick of you. I'm oversimplifying things but you are far too naive for what's coming if you try to find that.
/r/askTRP24/05/21 01:13 AM
-7

Me too can't ruin a guy for pulling out. Besides, the point is having frame will earn her respect. She won't feel insulted by that she will feel she must earn his attention back. Do you even sidebar?
/r/askTRP24/05/21 01:02 AM
1

Because we are wired to stay safe. The only way out of seeking comfort is to desensitize. It's not necessarily good for your survival to try to be alpha, to try to mate with many women. Nature only cares that the best and boldest are satisfied. What we are trying to do is literally hack nature and become the ones with confidence. That means we charge head first into those demoralizing failures until we have the skills to succeed like naturals.
/r/askTRP24/05/21 12:57 AM
3

OP you mean orbiters, boyfriends, wannabes right? Yes most of our anxiety is rooted in being scolded as babies and learning fear instead of confidence. It only changes with reps. Force yourself to do risky things unt your body learns that it succeeds more than it fails and the reflex will deaden.
/r/askTRP23/05/21 06:12 PM
1

I've had deer in the headlights sometimes (off the bat) where I almost wonder if she didn't understand English, but In hindsight I wonder if sometimes it's literally the deer/prey thing going on. Usually I've moved on because of it but I need to lock inore often and see if I can pick up the reason for the speechless blank stare.
/r/askTRP23/05/21 09:30 AM
2

I'd agree with most of this, but it doesn't take hours in practice. The whole process is under 20 minutes. If she doesn't ever IOI then sure, you're wasting time if you stick with it.
/r/askTRP23/05/21 08:32 AM
9

Read Mystery and YaReally for this stuff... Mystery's biggest lightbulb was that 9s and 10s are never alone and that your most important game is gaining rapport with the dudes and winning over the other chicks and subtly ignoring the hottest one until she's begging for the spotlight again. The book of YaReally is similar but more like a long collection of field reports with a lot of this stuff in it. Vital game and certainly the most intimidating to practice since you are always approaching cliq…
/r/askTRP23/05/21 06:45 AM
3

I agree. I was confused by how many girls cover up while talking but realized that in most cases they were into me, not uncomfortable. Sometimes I think they might subconsciously wish to signal virtue, but other times I think it's purely subconscious and my presence reminded them that they have tits.
/r/askTRP23/05/21 03:56 AM
53

I'm doing it at 37. Lots of men are coming out of dead bedrooms at 55 and living better than any decade before. The earlier the better, but seriously everyone who takes the pill has a better life to look forward to than the average male experience.
/r/askTRP23/05/21 03:52 AM
2

Hmm, Mystery's method was the opposite of this. He never went direct with the target. He ignored and negged the target and won over all the others to stay locked in, then once the target peaked in terms of craving his attention, he would redirect things and isolate her.
/r/askTRP23/05/21 03:45 AM
1

This is gold. Laugh out loud gold.
/r/askTRP22/05/21 10:20 AM
1

Also don't be paying attention so we'll you know she's the first to read your posts... like literally don't have notifications. I forget about Instagram completely for a week at a time now, it's amazing. You don't need to reply to comments whatsoever. Remember it's not rude, you are busy with your life, even if you aren't yet.. the more you ignore the drama and act like you are on a mission, the easier it will be to find a mission and you'll find fulfillment in pursuing goals.
/r/askTRP22/05/21 10:19 AM
1

It sounded fine from your FR but honestly not much happened overall. Just be socially aware and keep ASD in mind and keep playing it cool.
/r/askTRP22/05/21 09:57 AM
1

You know when your girl borrows your car and wrecks it and you're like well I can always get another car but it still sucks to lose something... it's a normal feeling. Get more cars and you won't feel as much when you lose one.
/r/askTRP22/05/21 09:38 AM
2

We've all been there with situations like this, and it sounds like you have nothing but green lights. Nothing wrong with building tension and striking when the iron is hot again under different circumstances. Whatever they say, if it turns out she never gives you iois like this it shouldn't matter enough to you that you beat yourself up over missing the opportunity. Opportunities should keep coming if you shift into a red pill life. That said, the beginning smells like babysitter/pedestal syndro…
/r/askTRP22/05/21 09:34 AM
2

I bet it literally comes down to a subconscious sense that the most attractive body is what nature decided was perfect, (i.e. if Dwayne Johnson had worked as hard as he does but had no chemical help), and that the roid body is not that... even if it's better/bigger, it's not equal to perfect. Kind of like fake tits.. some of us love them because we found a glitch where we can suspend logic in a way and enjoy something extreme, but the average person thinks it's just not normal so it doesn't matt…
/r/askTRP21/05/21 10:09 AM
1

No you don't get the logic of my verbiage. Being turned on is called arousal. Attraction is what keeps you with someone when you are not aroused. Alpha/beta is how TRP describes balancing the stimulation of these in women, but affection isnt in the same category. Affection is something you give someone... a choice.. its why you say you "show" it rather than feel, generally. But you were right about people losing arousal and staying attracted to them but it's really more like we are attracted to …
/r/askTRP21/05/21 05:26 AM
0

You meant attraction and arousal but yea (affection is a gift or reward)
/r/askTRP20/05/21 10:45 AM
3

I don't dance but I'll throw in small things like if she says or implies that I'm a dick or sinister I'll pull her closer and bring her hand to my chest (heart) and say "see, empty and cold" or something random. Just the same, it's not an opener. You can't just walk up to them on the sidewalk and pull them close.
/r/askTRP20/05/21 10:41 AM
2

I've had plenty of that belittling stuff thrown at me... comments like "it's always your male ego" etc. when it's her ego that is being fragile and butt hurt over shit. My instinct says you need mechanism to shut that stuff off immediately, meaning the ability to say "you need to leave my house now" etc. so yes you are reacting, not passive like a doormat, and her shit tests will continue to sound like "oh you cant handle me so you have to kick me out" which can sound like you're failing but rea…
/r/askTRP20/05/21 03:33 AM
87

One way to look at it is it's not really about who's right or wrong or whether someone committed offense or not. Becoming a man is about developing immunity to what offends. Even when she was "wrong" your progress is in developing immunity to it, not just training her in what you will tolerate. Every time you exercise DGAF it makes it more true inside you. It's all about you .. every situation where you get to exercise your masculine determinism is a win for you and makes you stronger and more c…
/r/askTRP19/05/21 03:06 AM
2

It's not a bad simplification. I think the key is that women think they want comfort and so some is necessary while they end up uncontrollably motivated by boredom vs excitement. Because they are driven by hunger for drama, they produce drama and possibly think it's attractive to men by mistake and ride the CC, slowly degrading their comfort/security qualities. Men on the other hand, know they want excitement, but end up falling for comfort and get into marriages etc. Because women keep making t…
/r/askTRP17/05/21 12:20 PM
1

Usually when you text sparingly, this is how they label you but in that case, it's manipulation to guilt you into simping barder. It can mean you're on the right track.
/r/askTRP16/05/21 08:54 PM
1

If it's a one time monk mode I would think going no contact is fine, but it needs to be temporary. I personally don't trust it enough to go full nofap for that long but if I had faith in the cerebral reset concept I would totally do it and minimize female contact even. I'm just not sure of it and since everyones situation is different, how would we know if 90 days is adequate or way to long etc.
/r/askTRP16/05/21 10:27 AM
1

True and beware that even a comfort test like this is stepping over the line onto that slippery slope. If you satisfy all of these without fail, they will only get worse. I'm not sure I would say it like "only pass 20% of her comfort tests" but you certainly need to always maintain some dread to keep am LTR viable.
/r/askTRP13/05/21 04:16 PM
3

This is exactly what 12 Levels of Dread was created for. If youre already prepared and glad to start over, just do the steps much faster, and as soon as you're sure of your frame, insert the breakup. Of course if you have nothing to lose, no shared responsibilities, bills etc, you can just start with the "I'm not satisfied, you need to move on" talk. The main thing is to be ready logistically and emotionally so she doesn't seduce you back in the same night etc.
/r/askTRP13/05/21 12:58 PM
13

Traumatized boys are colder and more selfish so they inadvertently exhibit some traits that are arousing. They are also more likely to be survivors which is attractive. The proper path to this image is learning to DGAF on your own terms, however. You can be a lone wolf or renegade alpha without being forced into it by trauma which has serious consequences to your internal stability and happiness.
/r/askTRP13/05/21 12:54 PM
1

The one benefit is it gives you a chance to be the bad guy and show boldness without really the risk of jail for something like refusing to mask up (when not on private property), but it's so much harder to spot HBs worth opening hah!
/r/askTRP13/05/21 12:50 PM
1

I guarantee it's something fairly basic about your attitude or actions that's hard for us to see on Reddit. I would focus on growing your circle of red pill guys in real life.
/r/askTRP12/05/21 10:20 PM
4

God this is gross. If you will read the sidebar and behave abundantly, none of this will bother you. Assume she has other dick and regardless of whether it's true, proper dgaf may convince her yours is better in the long run. Who knows what's going on in her feels right now, but you're way too stalkerish and I wouldn't be surprised if she could smell it. She may have had a great time but if you were actually more emotionally invested she will remember it and her hamster will change her memories …
/r/askTRP12/05/21 08:03 PM
1

I won't engage in ad-hominem, it's childish.
/r/askTRP12/05/21 07:58 PM
1

Yea so you're saying Germanic/Scandinavian places aren't as bad?
/r/askTRP12/05/21 07:56 PM
1

I was in Virginia recently and bars would escort you to a separated table like a barrel with stools and then you have to don mask to approach the bar, leave the bar with your drink, and are expected not to join anyone not in your party. In Texas unless you're in the clinic, no masks.
/r/askTRP12/05/21 07:45 PM
2

Sounds like you're asking about America.. which may not be the best choice anyway, but if you are here, remember that "conservative" states are full of horny girls and America doesn't have much of that virgin for marriage culture if you're on the streets, in the bars etc. However, right now it's only the "conservative" states that are chill about masks and isolation so they are the best to be social in anyway... Texas, Florida, Nevada, lots of "rural" states have big cities but aren't covid Nazi…
/r/askTRP12/05/21 02:04 PM
1

As opposed to Slavic or do you mean like literally the British Empire?
/r/askTRP12/05/21 01:55 PM
1

Tensing up makes you more prone to injury. The only thing it might help is make a tiger bored and ignore you. Specific situations aside (like lifting a car off a person), interaction with people does not benefit from the rush.
/r/askTRP11/05/21 09:30 PM
1

Not shit. But how. The question is why it makes you shaky rather than resolute. I am nearly 40, special forces / combat background and every reason to be uber confident but I get similar sensations just being in the same room with conflict. 8 know it comes from childhood and my weak dad must have bowed to my yelling mom when I was too you to remember or something, but there has to be a way out of it.
/r/askTRP11/05/21 08:34 PM
2

Yea his methods are powerful and TRP didn't spring up out of the ground... it was shaped by a lot of what the PUAs learned in the field. There's a balance because no matter how long you can maintain frame, if you only ever meet a handful of girls because you didn't go out of your own way to, youll never find any real LTR potential in the first place.
/r/askTRP11/05/21 01:40 PM
9

I've been reading Mystery recently and it's amazing how opposite PUA and TRP can be sometimes. If you simplified Mystery's attitude and mental point of origin it's almost like lover boy / dancing monkey entertainer type, yet it has a magical effect on the altitude of panties. On the other hand, TRP dudes often seem to go hard in the paint with the stoicism which is definitely a recipe for frame but hardly exciting or fun for women. I think just like longevity of a thing requires delicate balance…
/r/askTRP11/05/21 04:43 AM
1

I wrestle with this too. I've been studying pickup more recently and it's amazing how opposite
/r/askTRP11/05/21 04:32 AM
1

These are functional observations, not catalysts of change. None of these are lightbulbs to the addict. The heroin addict is enthralled with a habit that he literally has experienced to be incomparable and no matter what you tell him he still wants that thing more than not having it. He literally cannot just "stop doing it." Every vice known to man is in this category on some level. From poker to world of warcraft literally the only turning point is in the person's head when/if it just clicks "m…
/r/askTRP09/05/21 08:25 AM
1

An "argument" with a girl is almost always a shit test in my experience.
/r/askTRP09/05/21 04:20 AM
3

I deadlift 405 for reps and it doesn't put any words in my mouth. Even when I had veins running into my trousers and turned every head at the pool, I had no guts to walk up to the hot chicks. It's a radical shift that only happens with (verbal) reps.
/r/askTRP09/05/21 04:19 AM
4

Just pass her shit tests more and more. The better you are at them the faster you'll turn her attitudes into sex. However, it's common for them to learn that being bitches brings that energy... make sure you're soft nexting for actual disrespect rather than stoking her bad attitudes just to get her horny. It's a fire that can get out of control. Better to miss some sex and see her behavior improve rather than dinner bell her into becoming a drama addict
/r/askTRP09/05/21 04:13 AM
1

Oh wait you haven't even tried to reach out yet... and it's an asexual, intellectual relationship? I missed that one. Call her up and talk shop! In that light it's not a red pill issue.
/r/askTRP07/05/21 11:55 AM
11

You don't exist to her. You are not in front of her face every day, you are in another country. Not even a well developed LTR works when you're far apart, let alone a fling where you kissed a stranger. Travel and make more of these if you want. You can't expect women to be sentimental like you are.
/r/askTRP07/05/21 03:47 AM
2

Spotted the karen On that note... this is why us 1% (or whatever) will always have that much more power than the average Joe. It's too easy for chumps to listen to these fools.
/r/askTRP07/05/21 03:42 AM
1

Bike rides can be strenuous and there's no kino... great for 3rd date etc. but not 1st IMO.
/r/askTRP07/05/21 01:05 AM
1

When I was in LA it was a phenomenal idea. I'll have to look around where I'm at.
/r/askTRP06/05/21 11:47 PM
1

This is a non-answer. The question is how to have discipline when you don't have discipline. You don't just decide to be disciplined. This is only a solution if you're not really trapped by the habit, in which case you aren't here asking about it. Discipline comes when you develop new priorities/values. The only way to eliminate an insanely pleasurable habit (just like heroin or the golden handcuffs of a good but demanding job) is to genuinely have better things going on , i.e. real women. If yo…
/r/askTRP06/05/21 10:20 PM
1

I think I see your intent now. Grammar and spelling are key. Two things.. true, ignoring isn't necessarily a shit test, it can be a lot of things. Second, however, shit testing is just nature and doesn't have anything to do with whether she is interested or not. From your perspective at least, you will get shit from all women; you can't really use that as any indicator of interest.
/r/askTRP06/05/21 09:31 PM
2

I hear the same from other RP brothers and I'm deeply curious about this. I'm a super logical guy and hedonistic if anything, so my gut says there would be zero downside to it but other guys think that removing the danger of pregnancy actually pussifies your masculine drive... nobody can put it into scientific absolutes though. I bet its a simple as only you know if it's going to get under your skin or not. I don't think anyone can tell you how you are going to feel and I don't believe in some c…
/r/askTRP06/05/21 08:24 PM
3

But broh.. if she has only 1 tattoo she's 13.7% less likely to cheat than if she has 2!! My plates.xlsx has 79 red flag columns and it works I PROMISE!
/r/askTRP06/05/21 08:13 PM
57

Getting married
/r/askTRP06/05/21 07:41 PM
9

Approaching someone while on a treadmill AND with headphones on is incredibly rude. If you just shit where you eat, you better lurk at the exit or something. Don't interrupt someone's workout let alone while they are mid exertion.
/r/askTRP06/05/21 07:32 PM
5

You seem confused by the concept of shit test. It's not "being shitty" it's testing whether a man is good enough... which is exactly what a good girl needs to do, as you've said. Just clarifying because your reaction implies you think shit testing is a bad thing or somehow reflects poorly on the quality of a woman.
/r/askTRP06/05/21 07:30 PM
3

This one's interesting... brb with the popcorn
/r/askTRP06/05/21 05:49 AM
2

Yea that one girl seems to be the Achilles' heel of every tortured man... no matter how red pill though, it seems very few men are completely immune to that susceptibility. I wonder if we are actually "not like that" just because we "know" about the red pill, or if it's so buried in our bones we are all still at risk of pining for some magic...
/r/askTRP06/05/21 03:43 AM
1

My favorite is Spike Spiegel! I'd have to re-watch and pay attention to the little things though... red-pill truly is seeing everything with lenses on (a la "they live").
/r/askTRP05/05/21 07:30 PM
1

In a trope sense... Wallace was bold and a leader of men but failed to calculate risk effectively and ended up losing his balls (and everything else). Also, his crusade against the entire English "race" is primarily driven by oneitis for his wife, which is hard to ignore. (we are talking about a film character... just what's portrayed in those 2 hours)
/r/askTRP05/05/21 07:28 PM
1

Exactly! This is why morons think they are being alpha and girls view them as pigs and say they have too much ego etc. They are grasping at externals and failing to internalize anything solid.
/r/askTRP05/05/21 07:23 PM
2

Yea he's more realistic than the iconic "genghis khan" alpha that everyone thinks they can become just by acting cold and tough.
/r/askTRP05/05/21 07:21 PM
1

I'd call him dark triad or straight up psychopath but only red-pilled in the sense that he's aware of the world, not that he is anything worth emulating. Just interjecting for the 16 year olds who get the wrong ideas about being a successful man. Chimps are "red-pilled" and they eat monkeys alive.
/r/askTRP05/05/21 06:59 PM
0

Men whining that society is falling apart because women are promiscuous is exactly the same as women whining about only attracting losers. It's all just shifting the blame for their own failure onto "society" instead of fixing themselves. Each is only pissed because they have to watch others succeed while they themselves fail to get what they want.
/r/TheRedPill05/05/21 09:49 AM
1

Im still weighing these concepts, but the general point of origin I hear and agree with is you can't go wrong avoiding "dinner dates" period. I was thinking of trying a script flip using "I don't date until the 3rd fuck" or something like that... haven't found a moment to use it yet though. It's also fairly explicit so I'll see. But that's the perspective I come from. I am still unconvinced that completely eliminating provider traits is necessary in the long run. I think it needs to be calibrate…
/r/askTRP05/05/21 05:38 AM
3

The reason they say that is you don't have much energy to work with when cutting down hard and spending it on cardio means you'll lift heavy weight less. Heavy lifting is the number one stimulus to build and/or retain muscle. Honestly though, at 17 you can eat just enough (don't restrict calories to where you are fainting and feeling fatigued all the time), and you'll probably gain muscle while losing that fat. Unless you eat garbage, your hormones are a superpower right now.
/r/askTRP05/05/21 03:20 AM
3

The difference is we can color what they view as their best option. While they can't get oneitis they can certainly fall madly in love and get tunnel vision. If you like her enough it is worth long term cultivation. Go back and read Rollo on "deep conversion".
/r/askTRP05/05/21 02:31 AM
1

This one isn't on society it's on you being a pervert to people who need to rely on you. It's the same reason incest is disgusting, because you need to grow without fear of being harassed when you are naive to it... in the workplace no one should have to wonder if you are interpreting their friendly cooperation as flirting because you can't next someone you work with. Go monk and recalibrate your sensors man. I don't know if you are just autistic bit if you are you need help and guidance with th…
/r/askTRP05/05/21 02:25 AM
1

You probably can't now, especially if you haven't met yet, but it may have nothing to do with your text game. My po8nt was she probably did not intend to meet from the beginning.
/r/askTRP04/05/21 07:35 PM
10

A lot of bums got that way because they fuck like gods and/or carry a firehouse... kind of like a hot chick with zero personality or social cleverness.
/r/askTRP04/05/21 04:41 AM
2

Yea, rudeness. Shit testing is rude. It's a defense mechanism. Attractive girls have to do this to you until your SMV is high enough for them. In other words, lift and groom and get to where you look higher than hers or develop game and the mindset that you are better than her, but ideally do both. When your SMV is higher than hers and you know it, you won't be confused or deterred by shit tests. If you actually have read the sidebar, this is what shit test means. Check out the book of YaReally …
/r/askTRP04/05/21 03:07 AM
2

You validated her and she was already planning on damage control from the beginning since there is no reprisal for wasting someones time online.
/r/askTRP04/05/21 01:40 AM
3

Yes
/r/askTRP03/05/21 02:43 AM
1

Also you can't know what hb she is if you haven't seen her. Hell she may have fake pics. Don't get hung up on it just try for no pressure meetup and dgaf.
/r/askTRP02/05/21 09:08 PM
2

Bullshit. SMV is pervasive.
/r/askTRP02/05/21 06:40 PM
6

Sounds like a guy who found the red pill, demoted his ltr to an only plate and then started ignoring her without actually having a life and wonders why she's confused.
/r/askTRP02/05/21 06:37 PM
1

Mystery was a pro and still determined that 7 hours was the average. It's not as simple or as guaranteed as she better be ready to jump your bones immediately or you're wasting your time. That's only true for Brad Pitt.
/r/askTRP02/05/21 06:31 PM
1

I usually listen to the "Rule Zero" panels on various channels and they're almost always excellent. Rich Cooper is loathsome with his money grubbing approach and he seems easily butthurt like he has a really fake, constructed ego but the rest of them are always spot on with their input: Rollo Tomassi, Rian Stone, Troy, Stirling, Jon Fitch, body language mastery Jon, etc.
/r/askTRP02/05/21 04:32 AM
1

Easily said, but in my experience real fetishes start before ever seeing porn.
/r/askTRP02/05/21 04:20 AM
5

He's 20 dude. Let him start swinging, it's how your hits get better. Sure, you're sense of the situation seems pretty good. Be ready to realize she may not see you as the guy... but you gotta practice somehow. And of course, read the sidebar. Just don't think field experience is worthless because "well you haven't read all the way to the final page of the manosphere yet"
/r/askTRP30/04/21 03:59 AM
1

Negative. She knows, if you're responding you're pooing.
/r/askTRP29/04/21 04:56 AM
14

Ignorance = bliss is not entirely tongue-in-cheek.
/r/askTRP29/04/21 02:50 AM
2

Pretty sure there are tons of boys or at least fake accounts on there. I saw the same chick three times in the same stack once.
/r/askTRP28/04/21 12:14 PM
7

"approaching" on facebook... yea, sidebar first bro
/r/askTRP24/04/21 01:09 AM
2

You can always bull for her and depending on their situation he might just be into cucking but don't announce it at dinner or anything. See where she is mentally first and of course use your judgement in terms of damaging friendships, etc.
/r/askTRP23/04/21 04:25 AM
1

I've been in the same situation where I could see the fun to be had in setting up the date she suggested but I had to learn to shut down those suggestions and pull them out at other times when it was my idea... what I actually wanted at the time. There may still be genuine desire, but generally when she is pushing you for dates my gut says its that she's sensing the end and trying desperately to recreate the spontaneous excitement there was in the beginning. But like everyone says, there is trul…
/r/askTRP23/04/21 12:29 AM
3

Same here bro! Only my platoon is all married and we have a book club yada yada... the four wheelin' mountain climbin' bros are from 1st plt... shoulda made better connections haha
/r/askTRP22/04/21 02:21 AM
3

You can't recomp because there's nothing to recomp. Ad 10-20 lbs of muscle (clean) and you'll be shredded. You don't have enough fat to be worrying about cutting or recomp.
/r/askTRP22/04/21 02:18 AM
2

Don't let open eyes spoil the enjoyment IMO... the primary goal is to better yourself, but fucking the shit out of gorgeous girls (and honestly connecting long term with the cooler ones as well) is a huge part of the incentive to better yourself. It's all tied together.
/r/askTRP22/04/21 01:57 AM
81

I think its "never compliment a girl on her looks, especially one you haven't fucked"
/r/TheRedPill22/04/21 01:35 AM
1

If you pay attention to PUA you should know they only stress that building value / bringing down because their goal is to get maximum quality women while accepting natural limitations (height/looks/financial). The point is maximizing effectiveness and yes they do work on developing a mental point of origin that they are the prize... I guess the point is all of these tools are just tools and it seems to me that displaying that you have absolute value (money/status/etc.) is not "giving it away for…
/r/askTRP22/04/21 01:25 AM
1

All good points, but how can you say the "right ones" would not be attracted because you showed wealth? Isn't there an angle where a wider net catches more bad fish, but it's catching more good fish too?
/r/askTRP22/04/21 01:17 AM
6

It's really just an underdeveloped form of the male drive. Women as validation is almost a base realization of our mating strategy where more is better and better is best. However, it becomes counter to our goals in the sense that it distracts from seeing our own improvement as primary. When women see us chasing validation, they see us as try-hard; when they see is chasing excellence, they try harder.
/r/askTRP22/04/21 01:12 AM
1

Cuz they can be
/r/askTRP21/04/21 04:32 AM
3

Must be packin
/r/askTRP16/04/21 07:34 AM
1

It's definitely something that she adapts to if you hit it gradually every day or whatever. I have returned from deployment about half a dozen times to find the girl incredibly tight but after a good long weekend we would be pounding away like normal. My length has never fit all the way in but even that would probably even out eventually I just didn't train her on it deliberately enough.
/r/askTRP11/04/21 10:05 PM
1

Billy Joel is clearly pedestalizing her though, and some of his flowery lyrics are blind to the extent of her issue.
/r/askTRP09/04/21 04:25 PM
3

He never mentioned messages, but the fact that the friend "looks at him" instead of answering. If you're so much better than OP at least read the question.
/r/askTRP09/04/21 04:21 PM
2

Perhaps if you took an optimistic view of life and your potential, you would be better able to attract bad bitches and inspire ride or die loyalty. There's nothing more depressing than nihilism to a woman and they are emotion sponges. If your rant reflects your personality at all, it's likely you drive away or snuff out excitement in even the optimistic chicks in your reach.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/21 02:17 PM
2

I'm not even going to correct it haha
/r/askTRP09/04/21 01:46 PM
9

You can be aloof and aloha as fuck but no girl is going to stay with you who doesn't feel good. No matter how successful cold and aloof game can be, the pull in push pull is giving them excitement, adventure, etc. It's the man's job to give girls a good time and it's critical if you want anyone to value your presence more than once.
/r/askTRP05/04/21 11:42 PM
2

The vast majority are under 5.5" in case that helps... and by 5.5" in the studies they mean bone pressed, i.e. ruler jammed into the belly.
/r/askTRP05/04/21 09:32 PM
1

How does redpill translate to a gay dynamic? Do you find it comes more naturally or is it applied differently? It makes me curious.
/r/TheRedPill05/04/21 09:27 PM
11

I wish I was better at this
/r/TheRedPill05/04/21 04:35 PM
7

You can be boring and honest, or amused mastery the shit out of this. If you're still just banging out initial messages with a match, there's no reason she deserves to know your profession. Your concern is valid but this is basic sidebar shit.
/r/askTRP05/04/21 01:52 AM
1

It's incredibly worth it, but the girls that open you are mostly still not ones you are into. Developing game never loses its value.
/r/askTRP04/04/21 04:42 AM
1

Hurt your frame or hurt your plate? Your question is both ambiguouos and contradictory.
/r/askTRP04/04/21 04:33 AM
1

When she brings up the last time she cooked or did the laundry like you should feel guilty or she deserves to be called a her for basic contribution s to a cohabitation. You can ignore sometimes and sometimes you can give a chuckle or smirk because she's tooting her own horn. Craving your approval is ok, that's comfort testing. But when you can tell she's bitching, indignant, ungrateful, you need to shut it down so she knows you're not falling for it.
/r/askTRP02/04/21 02:33 PM
9

Absolutely. And yes she's being kind of weird... but it could definitely stem from a place of trying to get you back to her sooner and nothing more. Or it could be she wants you to jump on the simp train and mirror that (you wouldn't cheat either)... either way, the most important decision is not to engage with that crap whatsoever. If you can smoothly continue the flow without acknowledging that she said anything, great. Best to be able to disappear without a return date, but if a little comfor…
/r/askTRP31/03/21 11:48 PM
2

Teasing about the fact she couldn't wait is alright, but appreciating her effort is healthy too. I am usually sorting out whether she is primarily showing appreciation and when she is trying to show of or harp on how much work she does "for the relationship". The latter deserves a scoff without being unnecessarily cruel... anyone who throws their sacrifices I'm your face deserves an eye roll, but girls are especially bad at fathoming how their efforts pale in comparison to their man's.
/r/askTRP31/03/21 11:43 PM
3

It seems when a lot of guys "go red pill" they really just mean they get angry bitter and cold. None of those things are actually "red pill" and bitches run on feels. It doesn't matter how apex alpha you are if you make them feel unwanted and your bitterness rubs off on them. Red pill awakening should feel like freedom and hope.
/r/askTRP30/03/21 09:12 PM
2

I'm not sure of your situation, but frame shouldn't really all kinds of mental energy. It's hard work when we are finding it the first time, but when it's congruent it shouldn't be that draining. Perhaps it would help to focus on your inner sense of identity... realizing in yourself that frame is just the world you deserve to live in and think from that point of origin.
/r/askTRP30/03/21 02:01 PM
0

Just beat up their insides
/r/askTRP29/03/21 04:52 PM
2

A) if you're afraid a girl will be psycho when she's nexted, you screwed yourself. No easy answer at that point you just have to make a civil exit. It's not "unredpill" to swallow some ego temporarily to avoid setting off a demon (while carefully making the exit of course). B) why do you care if a bi chick is into your ex? Own the fact she wants what you already had... agrees with your taste, etc. Girl on girl shouldn't phase you
/r/askTRP29/03/21 04:45 PM
6

Don't ask when she's free, set up 2 potential evenings and have a plan and let her make it happen or ignore. Good chance she's BSing regardless.
/r/askTRP27/03/21 10:43 PM
5

I thought you meant like Taco Bell and BK haha Yea it's only breaking frame if she asks for it and you "give in". If she never made drama about it you're clear to change your mind. If she brings it up, chuckle or whatever and wait/withhold until it's your initiative again.
/r/askTRP25/03/21 11:50 PM
1

I honestly find hinge to be 90% whales while on tinder and bumble about 50% of them are would-bangs. I'm in LA right now so I don't know why the decks seem stacked against me, but maybe hinge is the only one that doesn't sort popular girls to the front... Im also 38 looking for 20-25 so perhaps the girls who use hinge don't think they want older? I have no idea but they are very different. hinge is also slow as hell to swipe.
/r/askTRP24/03/21 06:11 PM
1

I've tried hinge but it's so damn slow... every few likes it has to refresh and there's no browser login.
/r/askTRP23/03/21 06:47 PM
10

Take this with a grain of salt, but when guys are planning to game, they don't invite anyone who is stiff competition. If there's any chance you're hot/successful enough to cock block them with your presence, you will be ignored. Sometimes it's this one.
/r/askTRP21/03/21 11:34 AM
1

Knowing what he is self conscious about and subtly inserting it into the dialogue often will make his ego begin to fear you. If you learn to make him insecure while letting all of his negativity just glance off you he will disappear from your social life on his own. This can work with cunty females too. There was one really negative bitch my ex brought into the social circle who was pretentious and self serving and probably viciously fempower and so on but I was brutal confronting her on passive…
/r/askTRP20/03/21 10:33 PM
2

It definitely makes teasing game seem more natural to me. It's easier to treat like a little cousin a girl more than a foot shorter. It's also really attractive to me to have a stark contrast in size (exaggerated maleness and femaleness). On the other hand, like Uncle Vas always says, the tall girls are often naturally submissive... I wish it were the other way around, but it's worth capitalizing on when it materializes that way.
/r/askTRP20/03/21 10:15 PM
1

Men are usually better because it's up to us to do the work. The point is she compares you to the other 9 even though she hides it.aybe you're lucky and they all sucked, but the best attitude is to enjoy what you get and be ready for your turn to end. Always look forward to the next one and gained experience.
/r/askTRP19/03/21 10:52 PM
2

Ho phase begins in the teens and doesn't end until late 20s. You are both children... it's 10 years too soon for you to think about LTRing and she's still at the beginning of her adventurous phase. You're better off improving yourself and enjoying freedom so when you do get to your 30s and lock down with am early 20s you are at least a man in her eyes. The strange truth is that in general, women don't respect men their own age. She might be attracted, but if she already has way more experience s…
/r/askTRP19/03/21 03:59 PM
4

You're on to something here 😂
/r/askTRP19/03/21 11:05 AM
39

In case this sails overhead... what we are saying is don't follow the ben stiller protocol for date anxiety, leave that shit built up in your balls and you'll have more ambition. Girls can smell it on us.
/r/askTRP19/03/21 09:11 AM
1

Mine was most likely BPD, but I think even if that were no part of it, I would still have had a similar experience as her self perceived SMV was maybe 3-4 below my actual. I kind of asked for the situation, coming from a partly saviour mentality pre TRP, but the point is when they swing wildly between adoration and self loathing, there's no way out. You can't pedestalize away her insecurity, and you can't dread game her very much either. It's like the worst of both worlds and BPD just amplifies …
/r/askTRP19/03/21 04:45 AM
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/r/askTRP17/03/21 12:54 AM
5

Living alone gives you frame automatically. As long as you are at a point where you can afford nice things, you can always make yourself social. Even chill at their house when you want... but having an entire place to isolate is key.
/r/askTRP16/03/21 09:00 PM
15

Well put! I forget if this is where Rollo goes with it, but all I here from the echo chamber is "red flag" but this is the reason why... ego frailty, validation, failure to bond with women or groups of people... it's the underlying stuff that makes a red flag meaningful.
/r/askTRP16/03/21 09:30 AM
7

Sounds like you're negging a 6. Never works. Even if you secretly think she's an 8 or 9, she doesn't, and being explicit with your words makes living with you a grating experience. Exemplify and implicate, don't explicate her flaws.
/r/askTRP15/03/21 02:39 PM
7

There is some truth to it, but I agree, there are quite a lot of people who still raise their kids with principles. The big thing is they're not found at Miami boat parties. You have to look harder.
/r/askTRP13/03/21 05:41 PM
5

For various reasons 2020 did this to a lot of us. I like to think the girls are just as much more desperate and it works itself out, but I'm still working on getting my own muscle back.
/r/askTRP13/03/21 06:24 AM
4

Except he states that he has abundance. Sometimes I wonder if a lot of us torpedo an LTR that might have been because we are so focused on not being emotionally invested. It depends on the situation, but it's certainly not rationale to believe that 3-4 plates and zero romance is some magic recipe for happiness all the time for every guy.
/r/askTRP13/03/21 06:17 AM
1

Of course. And there are accidental potential alphas (betas who started lifting heaps) who never realize their potential and never behave like natural alphas. And there are forever blue pill dudes who see an SMV improvement and make the best of it without finding TRP.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/21 08:19 PM
5

Intuitive, but the key is capacity. Having strength means nothing in unless you use it. Many pro athletes exemplify this. Look at Rogan even... no one would say his T must be low or he's not that jacked, but he's open about jacking off, lives monogamously, and is constantly opining about feminine political ideals. Really cool guy, really tough, even has status and (charismatic) "power" but not automatically an Alpha. Alpha behaviour is still a choice.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/21 02:27 PM
2

A woman scorned + DEERing cocktail I'd say.
/r/askTRP12/03/21 12:46 AM
2

Girls are creeped out by lower value, period. Age is just an easily identifiable characterisic to categorize losers who rind them of an uncle or whatever.
/r/askTRP09/03/21 01:05 AM
8

You've never been alpha in her eyes and at this point it may be hard to change her categorization of you. She may also be damaged or simply inadequately sexual/feminine for plating to work. It sounds like you need to read Rollo carefully and then get new plates.
/r/askTRP07/03/21 05:07 PM
6

The question is why do girls act salty to other girls, and the answer is because their emotions grab the wheel from their reason and they think it will make you question your decisions and/or make you feel punished for giving your attention to someone else... they are notoriously ignorant of how it just makes them look like sore losers.
/r/askTRP07/03/21 03:49 AM
7

I haven't in the past, but I'd say I do have some strong feelings about integrity. I haven't been put in that situation yet, but my gut says that owning your selfishness and letting a plate (or LTR) break is technically more RP than resorting to deception to keep a certain plate in rotation... but there are certainly points on either side. And in any case, the goal is not always to "RP max" but to use the awareness to maximize your enjoyment of life.
/r/askTRP05/03/21 09:59 PM
2

I don't have "arguments" against a demographic of people. What is your real question?
/r/askTRP05/03/21 09:45 PM
5

No, you didn't, but you could put that in your OP, good sir.
/r/askTRP05/03/21 03:07 PM
1

Opinions seem to be fairly 50/50 but surprisingly I think most of the gurus lean towards using it as a tool in a limited sense. The younger ones emphasize it more but even Myron is clear that if you aren't at 10,000 followers it's not really a flex anymore. I think I have something like 300-400 real friends (acquaintances and colleagues) linked and I've never promoted myself, so it's not surprising you have to far outpace that kind of number to show you have any actual clout. However, there is i…
/r/askTRP05/03/21 02:54 PM
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