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Great resources, thanks.
/r/seduction05/04/12 09:39 PM
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What's helped me is to really focus on feeling my words in my throat. This is what I've found myself doing. Takes a lot of conscious thought though, and you easily snap into your old habits.
/r/seduction05/04/12 08:43 PM
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Aah, that would be incorrect. I finished my Ph.D. more than a year ago and never made moves on undergrads. To be honest, even in my more recent lady-successes, I have not picked up any undergrad age women. One of my trouble areas ;-)
/r/seduction15/02/12 10:13 PM
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Not sure what you mean. The campus yesterday was large and urban. My undergrad university was large and rural (campus town).
/r/seduction15/02/12 09:46 PM
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You might be onto something - re:depends upon the college. I suspect the trend holds generally, but yesterday I was at an urban college (in LA). My undergrad was a campus town and I feel like it happened a little less - but was still a common habit of women.
/r/seduction15/02/12 09:44 PM
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My guess: feeling isolated even while surrounded by people. I was on campus yesterday and doing my eye contact thing, I was really surprised how many young women never even looked up from the sidewalk. The vibe they put off was clearly insecure and nervous. I never noticed this when I was younger (and in college), but it's more obvious to me now that I am bold with eye contact.
/r/seduction15/02/12 06:42 PM
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Research discussion is specifically why I visit some attraction / pickup blogs... I don't see much of it here on seddit, unfortunately.
/r/seduction15/02/12 05:50 PM
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You can't edit. But people are reading this, no need to delete really...
/r/seduction14/02/12 02:29 AM
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[FR] I went out to meet one girl, was surprised by two. Kept my cool when they flaked and made a new friend.
/r/seduction14/02/12 01:47 AM
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Very insightful, thanks for the comment. I'm glad you found a woman not displaying this emotional volatility. It was fun for a week, but would rapidly become tiring during a relationship!
/r/seduction14/02/12 01:45 AM
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FYI, your submission title makes it sound like you are bi. Nothing wrong with that, just wasn't sure what sort of story I was about to read.
/r/seduction14/02/12 01:41 AM
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Dating girls you know you do not wish to marry (or even have a medium term relationship) is one of the best things you can do for your social intelligence and learning, and yet so few men bother ("nice guys" are the worst for this). This times ten. I've just started to do this and it's been extremely educational. From the HB in Peru to the girl I slept with last night... I'm trying to stop protecting the girl by assessing serious relationship potential on day one. What girl can really be upset i…
/r/seduction31/01/12 08:13 PM
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Loved it. So often we are too timid - particularly when a woman does a double-take or otherwise makes it clear (intentionally or not) that she's attracted. Not a lot needs to be said to get a date - in fact it is far too easy to say too much. Superb execution.
/r/seduction17/01/12 11:25 PM
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Great to hear you crossed that f-close barrier. Like everything here, it's like a snowball. It only picks up speed. I look forward to hearing about your future exploits. edit: not a snowball in hell. A snowball in the Alps... on a steep slope... With wet snow. And a heavy down-hill wind. Yup. Just like that.
/r/seduction17/01/12 11:13 PM
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Counter-argument to your concern: most women play a (not necessarily nefarious) manipulative game in the realm of relationships and attraction. For many women, this is their arena. Not all women... but most target women of this sub-reddit.
/r/seduction17/01/12 11:03 PM
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Paraphrased perhaps, but yes, I came right out and told her that I was worried about her becoming too emotional with me if we continued to have sex. It wasn't hard to bring the topic up, she had already broached it earlier in the trip with respect to her prior relationships.
/r/seduction17/01/12 06:36 AM
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Personally I often feel like some kind of freak magnet. I've learned to just roll with it. Women are great, all of them have something special about them. This is a great attitude. Somewhat how I was thinking about things with my recent Latin Girl. Was she emotional and unstable? Yes. But it was fun. And she was fun in many other ways. I enjoyed the time with her.
/r/seduction17/01/12 12:11 AM
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I wouldn't call it useless. It's always interesting to read about these exchanges - regardless of outcome. And the more detail, the better - you gave a fair bit of detail here. Thanks for posting.
/r/seduction17/01/12 12:00 AM
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Me: "Ok" while watching the late night festivities for New Years Eve. Generally I was trying to project a vibe that I was indifferent to the outcome for the evening... and that I wasn't going to react to her tests negatively.
/r/seduction16/01/12 09:51 PM
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The FR was long already, I omitted plenty of discussion on this topic. I am very honest and up-front with women I sleep with. In this case, D heard from many sides that this was casual and fun - but not a relationship of any duration. For quite awhile, I was overly protective of women I was going to sleep with. I was overly honest, I would share things without their asking, I would step away without them telling me to. All because I was reading into risks to them. My new stance, generally, is th…
/r/seduction16/01/12 09:06 PM
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Thanks for the note. I think you lose some audience members when posts get beyond a few paragraphs in length.
/r/seduction16/01/12 07:03 PM
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I pull aside K and her husband, ask that they sleep together, give D and I a room that night. K's husband looks quite pleased, he gets to have sex with his wife. Everybody is happy. Though K is nervous. She gives D one last "you know electronPUA isn't looking for a relationship" talk. It changes nothing, but makes K feel better. I leave with D on a motor taxi for our hotel, and this is when the shit tests rain down like ... water in the Amazon. Everything from "I don't even know you," to "nothin…
/r/seduction16/01/12 04:53 PM
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You will want your own mat. The amount of sweat that hits these things it only acceptable if it is your own ;) I started off with a $20 mat from some fitness equipment chain. It was crappy, but appropriate until I knew I would stick with it. As for not knowing anything, just start with an introductory class. The instructors, if good, should ask if anybody is new. Let them know you are. And don't worry about looking like a noob. That voice is related to the approach anxiety. Girls will not think …
/r/seduction16/01/12 04:35 AM
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Sounds like a great night! Up vote for Yoga practice. Surrounding yourself with beautiful women, becoming comfortable in that environment... Has really helped me treat all women equal. They have to be pretty fantastically hot to break out from the pack at a yoga studio.
/r/seduction15/01/12 08:27 PM
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Insightful. Sometimes I recognize that 'keeping things running smoothly' is my job. But often I forget to see things that way.
/r/seduction14/01/12 09:41 PM
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I did pay for the meal, though this being Peru the total bill was $20. Drinks were $6, so she still owed me. But I wasn't concerned about the $7 she owed me.
/r/seduction14/01/12 07:39 AM
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I stopped the "lesson learned" where I did because it demonstrated what I learned from the encounter with HB8. The rest of the story is not, sadly, as positive - though I do think I read the situation well. After we were dropped off by the bus, she went to her new hostel to shower. I went to mine, we were to meet up in two hours for dinner (An Indian Curry restaurant that I suggested, she is vegetarian). She arrives on time, finds me in my room - and we head out for dinner. The vibe has changed …
/r/seduction14/01/12 12:56 AM
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Sometimes I post FRs and see only a handful of upvotes. This can be frustrating, and leads me to not post subsequent FRs for awhile. Sometimes I think it is because I'm just telling a story (and not providing valuable lessons). But with the effort I put into some of these FRs I find that ... not satisfying.
/r/seduction14/01/12 12:03 AM
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I'm afraid the "And then" is another post in itself. Perhaps if there is enough interest.
/r/seduction13/01/12 11:37 PM
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I guess it should be re-framed. It felt aggressive, because I (like many here I think) tend to be quite passive / risk-averse. Simply the act of escalating (particularly with her parents on the bus) felt quite risky. Like something I would not have done a year ago.
/r/seduction13/01/12 10:56 PM
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I agree that your phrasing sounds much better. And I think, as phrased by my father, you are correct. Perhaps this is why he was (sometimes) such an angry fisherman.
/r/seduction19/12/11 07:55 PM
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Why not take this mindset, as stated, and say to youself: I could walk around the corner and completely change my day. How exciting is that? Why does this have to be a depressing view? I personally think it keeps me always trying out new things.
/r/seduction19/12/11 07:41 PM
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I must not be conveying myself well. In fact, I think your statement here is well aligned with what I was trying to state. Upshot: you never know where the success is going to come from, don't get down on yourself when something fails (a meetup, a fish bite, etc).
/r/seduction19/12/11 07:39 PM
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you could have exchanged contact information earlier in the trip This. I almost said this in my reply. Sort of falls under a large umbrella of actions I don't like to take at the farewell stage. I don't like farewell kisses. I don't like farewell number closes. Too much "ohShootIForgotToDoSomething" vibe to these actions at the end of an interaction.
/r/seduction06/12/11 02:01 AM
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Good question prowl. I don't know. I probably would have failed it. By this point in the interaction I was sort of like: "I'm having fun, I'll stick around, but I'm nexting this girl." I think in that mindset you can sometimes over-do the indifference, and not capture her. My chances with her would probably then hinge on her to getting jealous around other women I'm making moves on (future camping trips with these groups). And I wouldn't be making moves for that purpose, I would simply be moving…
/r/seduction06/12/11 01:37 AM
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Kinda wondering what you think the response from your group would be. Ever been to a group gathering where many of the men are socially inept? You find yourself with lots of women spending time orbiting you? I guess I was feeling uneasy about publicly gather contact information from the three cutest girls on the trip. This may not be a great tactic, but it does fall under the "I don't take phone numbers" game. In the end, all three e-mailed me within a week (I sent out photographs from the trip …
/r/seduction06/12/11 12:24 AM
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We did not fool around in the car. Just sat and listened to music. She was reading into my behavior without my taking any sexual action (aside from leading frame).
/r/seduction05/12/11 11:21 PM
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I had tickets to a concert in hollywood, I swear I purchased two tickets... I almost always buy two tickets and then bring a woman. So we walk up to the venue, I download and display the barcode for the first ticket, she enters. I then download the second ticket and the bouncer rejects it. I try again, thinking I had loaded the same ticket twice. No dice. I check my email - stubhub says I purchased only one ticket. It was a major test of frame. But I held it together. Waved HB7 out of the concer…
/r/seduction21/11/11 05:26 PM
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Yes, she was the only woman all night.
/r/seduction25/10/11 02:44 AM
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I've done this a fair amount lately (the upper neck / base of skull massage). The women normally tilt their head down and their speach mumbled to nothing. The 20 seconds doesn't feel awkward, if anything it builds sexual tension in the silence (as she focuses on the sensations you are giving her). So what happened in bed? There was no f-close. It was highly sexual and I made her turn me down a couple times, but I didn't make her uncomfortable with having invited me to overnight. I really don't l…
/r/seduction24/10/11 08:53 PM
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Eric Disco of the Approach Anxiety Blog has been emailing out weekly challenges the last month or two. They start simple and work their way up, but generally involve simple interactions initially like asking for directions, asking for something that is obvious (standing in front of a bookstore and asking a girl where you might find a copy of Pride and Prejudice), etc. They move on to things like challenging the girl, role play, getting sexual. But initially, it's easy stuff. I strongly advise yo…
/r/seduction08/10/11 09:53 PM
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This was day game? I might suggest you scale back the level of day game flirting / direct approach until you feel better about your day-game skills. Right now your direct (sounding) approaches are causing a near 100% rejection rate (or at least awkward opening sequences), which is getting you down. Need more positive interactions? Make it more natural / indirect. I don't personally do enough direct approach, and it takes more balls. But if you are having such a negative experience in your attemp…
/r/seduction08/10/11 09:21 PM
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Question on point 5) Gay guys are outstanding wingmen. What about gay guys who are seriously into you? I've lately found myself in a situation: dance instructor with a great personality has invited me out dancing at clubs a couple times, but has made it clear he is into me. Seems like a gay guy might hesitate to hook me up with lady friends if he's hoping for a piece of the action himself... And I have told him I'm straight, but in typical fashion he's hoping for more.
/r/seduction08/10/11 09:13 PM
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Along these lines, last time I invited a girl over it was for "dessert". She brought the strawberries. She knew what was going down, most will - if your recent encounters have had a sexual vibe.
/r/seduction29/09/11 07:59 PM
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By "stay in touch" I mean they have invited me to birthday bashes, Hollywood parties, and beach days with their girlfriends. I believe this is the OP's goal. I feel like many of the other techniques to friend-zone are so ambiguous and toy with the girl's feelings. I prefer to come out and set things straight. If she still wants to invite me to events then great. If not there will be others.
/r/seduction22/09/11 09:57 PM
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Not my experience. Many do want to continue to see me. The trick is determining whether they still hope something will happen or whether they can genuinely be cool friends.
/r/seduction22/09/11 09:47 PM
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Personally I skip directly to "let's just be friends" talk. If you have the balls to be doing Pickup, you better have the balls to reject women (nicely). Friend-zoning is rejection (when she's interested in you). Just tell her like it is. Most women have wanted to stay in touch. Then I have to see whether I have time for them (I'm not so cruel as to say "lets just be friends, but not the kind of friends that see each other...").
/r/seduction22/09/11 09:45 PM
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You didn't notice that she had just stepped in dog crap? She wasn't addressing you.... Or maybe she was ;)
/r/seduction22/09/11 09:31 PM
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I have recently discovered Zanzibar in Santa Monica. I had a good evening there last time I visited (HB8 k-closed ME, should have tried to extract - but I was playing strong aloof game and it felt incongruous). Thursday nights are their AfroFunk nights, that's when I went. Saturday PM is their typical top 40 night, which is a different crowd (shields up versus weeknights, I think). Venice beach has a number of opportunities as well, several on Abbot Kinney road. I have been to The Otheroom on Ab…
/r/seduction21/09/11 05:42 PM
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And she more than made up for it with the strongest orgasms ever. She never came better than during that week. This. See my above comment. HB8 came during penetration, which she says is almost unheard of for her (not something a girl necessarily wants to admit - difficulty in orgasm).
/r/seduction20/09/11 05:26 PM
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There were a few times where some spots of blood were on the condom, but outside of that, it was no different than normal fucking. In this case, she had a tampon in but I had no blood whatsoever. I think she was worried that there COULD have been an 'event' though. it's mainly because she's worried about how you'll react to it I'm pretty sure this is what was going through the mind of HB8 that night. In the end she really didn't seem to care... But she was worried about me responding negatively …
/r/seduction20/09/11 05:24 PM
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Sorry bout the long delayed response. I posted before going out on the lake for a weekend... never got back to reply. I am using a version of a freeze-out, though perhaps less effective. When she turns me down for the night, I generally wrap things up and send her on her way. It's not SNL fast, like the "check your e-mail" freezout, but the effect I think is similar. Next time I invite her over: she'll know that if she turns down escalation that will pretty much be it for the evening. She can ch…
/r/seduction20/09/11 01:28 AM
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Going forward, I would suggest you ramp up the sexual innuendo of your text messages. The girl is clearly into you. Make it clear that to hang out with you, she's going to have to put out (but NOT be pressured to). I did exactly this during text messages before date 5. And I made date 5 clearly about late night activity at my place. She saw where it was heading and came happily (no pun intended). Eventually her panties will be so wet that she'll HAVE to fuck you. Just DON'T FORGET TO TEASE! This…
/r/seduction20/09/11 01:24 AM
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Your advice was on. I have a new FR to post, but I'll wait until tomorrow AM probably. Date 5 f-close, no end in sight - so long as I don't get attached.
/r/seduction20/09/11 01:21 AM
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I was 28 before I started treating women like potential sexual partners instead of business associates (I still won't f around at work, it's not worth it). Sure wish I had been getting my game on in college. You have time and resources, learn and go out - get tail. And use a condom. Regret-free sex is infinitely better.
/r/seduction20/09/11 01:18 AM
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This
/r/seduction20/09/11 01:07 AM
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I'm not sure what you are looking for, but I've discovered that sometimes these girls have boyfriends but are open to something on the side. Detecting the difference is tricky, takes experience. Unless they come out and tell you, as this girl did in my recent FR. I've had girls with boyfriends tell me, late in the night, that "If I were single I would be going home with you tonight." And I'm pretty certain that's an invite. The statement makes no sense unless she's hoping somewhere down there th…
/r/seduction20/09/11 01:05 AM
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Odds are quite good that you don't know them both all that well, certainly not well enough to consider them LTR material already. Unless you are childhood friends (and even then) you don't know what they are like in a relationship. Upshot: that you could find either acceptable for a LTR (and them you) seems unlikely once you get to know them well. You should ask them both out (if they don't know each other) and you'll realize shortly that one or both are not what you want. Perfect women don't ex…
/r/seduction20/09/11 12:58 AM
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I didn't really fuck up too bad with anyone Sounds to me like a girl was possibly open to fooling around in the hammock, but drunk you missed the opportunity... I think the alcohol hurt you. When we are drunk or tired (this happens to me also) we tend to lose sight of our goal for the night ;-)
/r/seduction20/09/11 12:53 AM
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I'm with ARealSocialRetard on this one (contrary to the username). While running away too soon could be bad, but I had multiple visual queues working for me here (which cannot be easily explained in text) leading me to believe that this was not going to be a SNL. And I was certainly ejecting at a high point, she was eating up our conversation. But just in case, I did make sure to probe her in the first two text messages that night - to open the door for a continuation just the two of us. She und…
/r/seduction17/09/11 12:22 AM
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We park at the top of the hill and start to walk down. The moon is a little more than half full, and it's a really warm evening (82 degrees f). In the dark ahead of us, a raven flies across the trail and startles us. She grabs my hand, I squeeze it and let the contact linger for a few seconds. I pull us off the trail at an overlook - you can see the Pacific ocean stretching out to an island in the distance. Houses below us form a blanket of lights. The hill has a bench, but I remain standing. I …
/r/seduction08/09/11 09:09 PM
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She's never going to end it with you because she suspects you're a player. Good advice. Thanks. Explicitly talking about your success with women is rarely a DHV. I'll keep that in mind, thanks.
/r/seduction28/08/11 08:43 PM
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I disagree with most of your math. Her apartment is one mile away, so picking her up was a freebie (and a logistics advantage). You imply that driving 2 hours to the concert was purely for the lay. I go to concerts every two or three weeks. Mostly with a woman. I love the live music, I enjoy the company, I enjoy the attention women give me during the show. Concert tickets were $22 per person, I got a special using a website I browse for deals. Parking was $15. She paid $22 for our bottle of wine…
/r/seduction28/08/11 08:25 PM
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You give off this natural gamer feel instead of a technical gamer. I needed a jump-start to get started, the PU material and lots of reading got me out there and learning the big don'ts. But I have felt that I prefer to learn by experience rather than reading. I still haven't picked up and read through any of the "process" based readings (open, hook, attract, whatever whatever). I tried to read one, but found myself thinking: "This is going to get way too confusing, I will do better just talking…
/r/seduction27/08/11 01:48 AM
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So I'm starting to get good IOI / compliance test results (arm around her and she leans in, good). At some point she is talking about her life on the East coast, and I decide to take a mild risk. I reach up to her far shoulder and very firmly massage her trapezius muscle. I'm extremely firm with my back massage, pretty much as hard as I can apply pressure. She sort of fades off mid sentence.... "I used to love .... visiting...." <long pause, she closes her eyes> "that... feels........... amazing…
/r/seduction26/08/11 10:23 PM
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I don't remember the details unfortunately. I believe I brought the topic up by telling her about a man I had met recently from Thailand, whose daughter I volunteered for (opportunity for her ask me what volunteer organization I'm working with - sick children). He had the most amazing flowering plants in his yard, and he clearly cared for them. Me: "He had this Night Jasmine that he pulled some flowers from and bundled for me to put in my car. You have Night Jasmine in the Philippines?" This is …
/r/seduction09/08/11 11:56 PM
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You don't have to outrun the bear, just your neighbor. Having grown up in Alaska, I want to point out that this is excellent advice.
/r/seduction08/08/11 05:09 PM
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I love to use shoulder / back massage moves as well - waaay before the bedroom. You can massage a girl's back / shoulders and it's totally OK in most social settings. And I'm VERY firm there as well (again, positive feedback from most women). In fact, I use this as a filter. If she cries about the pressure I'm using I tend to read into that negatively (she shouldn't be so fragile!). Exceptions can be made for sore shoulders from recent yoga practice ;)
/r/seduction08/08/11 12:11 AM
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You can absolutely pick up women when their parents are around. The parents will see what you are doing, but if you are high value they won't mind (at least initial flirting and convo). I was on a cruise this spring, and there was this exotic south American HB9 I had noticed a couple times but chickened out on approach. One evening I'm in the buffet with my mother and the HB9 walks in with a father and brother (I assume relation). I decide to man up, walk over and introduce myself to the father.…
/r/seduction06/08/11 07:23 PM
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When I want to flirt with my cashier machine I start by talking dirty: maybe something about grease and broken gears needing lubrication. Then maybe I stroke its keys and do a little push-pull with the drawer.
/r/seduction04/08/11 11:47 PM
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Great FR, thanks for the post. It sounds like you think really well on your feet, which is so useful when you find yourself between multiple women who are testing you. Post a follow-up (call these women, set something up)!
/r/seduction28/07/11 05:27 PM
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I love whole foods pickup. Lots of targets! And yoga pants. I had a great interaction with an HB8 this week, I saw her with sushi in her hand in a pencil skirt near the Mexican buffet area. Me: "You look puzzled by the fish you have there." Her: (smiling) "I'm trying to figure out whether I want mexican or sushi!" Me: turning to the buffet, "that is quite a variety of tomales they have, probably hard to chose one. They could make a photo calendar they have so many types." Her: "yeah, they could …
/r/seduction25/07/11 12:16 AM
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I've had the same experience with My Best Face. But what I do wonder is whether captions might help the situation. Unfortunately, My Best Face doesn't include captions. If I could clarify that this is my SISTER that I'm hanging out with, maybe they wouldn't be so catty in rejecting my cool photos!
/r/seduction20/07/11 04:28 PM
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Made me smile, upvote
/r/seduction20/07/11 03:57 PM
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My first impression of your post: the top 5%? I think I'm pickier than that, and I'm pretty new to this. Seriously, one out of twenty women?
/r/seduction20/07/11 01:20 AM
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She has texted me a couple times since this FR. I invited her to a concert Saturday, she promptly said yes. We'll see what happens.
/r/seduction19/07/11 05:23 PM
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Sorry, occupational hazard, that's common engineering / math lingo. I meant: Something like malfy's suggestion: be pretty forward with your interest to hook up.
/r/seduction16/07/11 05:04 AM
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I do wonder if things are slightly different for women? Men have pretty flexible standards with respect to who they will have sex with. Is it harder for women to really connect with most men, in a way that makes them comfortable having sex with them?
/r/seduction15/07/11 11:45 PM
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Seems like somebody has a strong level of female-hate going on. If this were a male posting, would you have such venom attached to your response? We have plenty of men posting in a similar situation, and I don't see these sort of replies.
/r/seduction15/07/11 11:43 PM
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Other thoughts: I've considered that she may have Friend-Zoned me, but put up with the physical contact because she's used to it from the guys at night. These friends she is staying with in LA, they are girls she met while traveling - not long time friends... Just more like acquaintances. Putting myself in her shoes, here is a fun guy who gets out and has a good time - and who picks her up to join him... I may have too much value as a friend at this point (given that she's only just arrived in L…
/r/seduction15/07/11 11:20 PM
1

Wow, downvoted within 14 minutes of posting this FR! Dropped it right off the front page of seddit. Good thing some people sort by newest.
/r/seduction15/07/11 11:12 PM
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If you are - hi. Come have sex with me. Damn. If that isn't a great 1-liner I don't know what is. He needs to jump on seddit. Personally, I've experienced something similar a couple times now - both cases I believe the woman thought I was being a little too "clingy" or coming off as not casual enough. You seem to be trying to keep contact un-cling-y... Maybe you should try radio silence for a few (A week or two?) and follow up with something a bit less veiled w.r.t. your interests?
/r/seduction15/07/11 08:15 PM
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Nice FR. I need to work on looking "into" women more I think. I like that you admit the nervousness, but discovered that she was happy you took a risk (what recently relocated girl wouldn't want an approachable, funny guy to fall into her life?). Hit us with a follow-up eventually, for better or for worse. Honestly, I need to give wind-downs on some of my story chains that didn't end well (no relation to how this will go! Just sayin).
/r/seduction15/07/11 12:27 AM
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Science, Technology, Engineering and Math
/r/seduction15/07/11 12:09 AM
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If she isn't into you, she will be super nice about it because she will think it's super cute. BAM. Younger man, older woman - she won't handle it poorly. Worst case she thinks it's flattering and the other office ladies hear about it.
/r/seduction15/07/11 12:07 AM
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In some ways, I'm the nice guy. Even as I try to up my game, I struggle with that a lot. Yes I stand up for myself. No I don't let women walk over me. But I try hard not to make women uncomfortable and that certainly is hurting my attraction capabilities.
/r/seduction14/07/11 12:30 AM
2

Not an easy task at 1:30 AM my time (after dancing for 3 hours). Figured it was fresh in my mind and I should get it down on "paper". Thanks for the props, makes me happy to write these (even if some are more mundane and only get 10-20 upvotes). Sometimes I feel like FRs missing F-close don't get as many upvotes.
/r/seduction14/07/11 12:26 AM
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I pull HB8B onto the dance floor. She's acting a bit uncomfortable, our chat earlier had made it clear she doesn't go out much. I escalate kino a little bit (hands on hips at one point), and then HB8A sister comes up and asks if HB8B wants another drink. HB8B takes this opportunity to stop dancing and tell me she's getting a drink. I see this as a sign she's not wanting to dance with me. Do you think my mistake here was not pulling both sisters onto the floor? HB8B had motioned for her sister to…
/r/seduction14/07/11 12:24 AM
2

unless, of course, you're not as comfortable as you think. I like this style, but I suppose that the recent "issues" had me worried. But am I still wearing the same clothing? Yes. I haven't changed anything. I still prefer this look. in my experience, girls that go for these kind of guys are girls that your kind of guy should not really care about. Exactly the advice of a close friend of mine. Good to hear it from community though. aspects of your personality and style showing through that are b…
/r/seduction13/07/11 04:34 PM
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By the way, for future reference, r/askseddit is the place for questions like this. I'm typically posting FR's, forgot about askseddit. My bad.
/r/seduction13/07/11 12:07 AM
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Yeah, implying the girls were receptive to having a guy join them.
/r/seduction12/07/11 02:44 PM
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I do think this is a self limiting behavior. Maybe a little bit like the Apathy and Avoidance mechanism mentioned here. We tell ourselves she is not worth pursuing for some small reason. I certainly need to get blown out more often. I'm very rarely blown out, which means I'm not taking nearly the level of risk I should be.
/r/seduction12/07/11 01:51 AM
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As a post FR amendment, I think HB7 was probably closer to HB8. She was standing out as one of the more attractive women on the dance floor, and this is a beach cities dance bar... The standards there are high. It also took her no more than 10 minutes to pull a guy, twice. And on the "why am I not escalating with these women," I feel a little bit like it's early onset of this: http://www.practicalpickup.com/the-abundance-paradox My standards have been rising over the last six months. And I've ne…
/r/seduction12/07/11 01:01 AM
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Westfield Century City
/r/seduction03/07/11 06:49 PM
4

Unfortunate result of rn combination in the subject. I suspect newspaper editors are aware of these potential pitfalls. "Burn area cleared of forest", for example, is likely a poor newspaper headliner.
/r/seduction26/06/11 01:38 PM
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Admittedly, I have been more about getting out there and day-gaming, less about reading theory. I also tend to not believe things I read until I experience them. you must have come across as honest for them to believe the story. I am often told by women that they feel they have known me a long time. Partly because I am really honest about things. But also I guess I am very swift in snapping into the "we know each other" role.
/r/seduction26/06/11 01:36 PM
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Yeah, I wasn't sure whether the source of the burn would A) turn them off because I've been sexing a woman lately or B) turn them on because I'm willing to do that to my body while pleasing a woman, and women are letting me do such things to them. The call on staying with the girls was one driven at least partially by their attitude. They were fun to hang with (the HB7 pilates instructor at one point said to her friends "the more I get to know about electronPUA the more I like him"). They were j…
/r/seduction26/06/11 02:49 AM
2

The dreaded "you must have your women confused" response. Sometimes I get that falsely and I have to set her straight (a shit test?).
/r/seduction29/05/11 11:29 PM
2

I texted the HB8 from the car dealership. She responded. I invited her to a night event that was really cool, but she informed me she works weekends. I haven't texted back, I really don't like coffee or bar dates (the typical weeknight options). I want to be out having fun regardless of the woman. If something does come up on a weeknight (tickets to a show, special event, etc), I'll text the HB8 out of the blue and see if she's responsive. As for this HB7.5 Latina, I simply wasn't seriously inte…
/r/seduction29/05/11 09:40 PM
2

It drops like a rock. After awhile most women in your area who actually look for men have discovered and read your profile. Give it a month or two, I bet it's down to every other week or monthly.
/r/seduction19/05/11 07:33 PM
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OP: Venice, California? Venice, Italy? I'm in Springfield, shit is easy here.
/r/seduction10/05/11 07:46 PM
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My recent chain of FRs were fairly academic in origination. I met this woman at a Natural History Museum, then took her to a science podcast live recording! Academic can be sexy. Make it so.
/r/seduction05/05/11 11:51 PM
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Nice write-up. It is always exciting to see somebody who can put their experience cleanly to paper (err, back-lit multicolor dots). On the "Thinks I could improve on:" list, I would suggest that you slowly toy with some of these improvements. Some of the 'weaknesses' may be fairly authentic to your personality (e.g. doting / kind ) and if not over-done (balanced by your alpha-ness) they might be just fine left alone. You don't have to check all of the seddit boxes in every encounter. I think you…
/r/seduction04/05/11 01:17 AM
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-This, seconded
/r/seduction26/04/11 10:47 PM
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In what manner is he acting moody around you? I'm trying to figure out how he pulls that off without talking to you (it does sound like he's not talking to you?). If you try to engage him in some conversation, it could take some persistence to get him to drop his nervous barriers. He sounds really insecure around women.
/r/seduction26/04/11 10:36 PM
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Oh no, you're done shopping? I'd hoped we could have gotten a few more awkward smiles in before we left. Nice line. Good work re-engaging and going in for the #-close.
/r/seduction26/04/11 04:35 PM
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I've still got plenty to learn, mostly about the tail end of this process (transitioning from first night onward). And I certainly rely heavily on "fun events" to get her attraction maximized, more so than self-generating attraction (which gets expensive, but also puts me at some pretty cool venues). Post FR with HB7.5 I blew things I think, and the key to that can be found in my FR: Clearly I've done a good job impressing her with the fact that I'm dating lots of women. I had told her during th…
/r/seduction26/04/11 01:50 PM
1

I bet you probably look younger than 29 too. She pegged me at 26 (And it is possible she cautiously rounded that up from 23, as she placed me at 26 only after I told her I was 29). What you are saying here does ring true. Perhaps I mis-read her.
/r/seduction25/04/11 08:25 PM
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How old are you? She is making it a point that she is 30 something. I'm 29, she's 34 (but keeps calling herself 35 - though her birthday isn't for ~6 months). I think this is a pretty solid psychological hint that I was missing. Post FR it is becomming clear that she's getting serious about finding Mr Right. Sort of threw a wrench in follow-up.
/r/seduction25/04/11 08:11 PM
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It sounds now like your game is pretty solid. You better start thinking about what you really want from all of this. A couple FR have been good. I clearly CAN make things work if she is helping me along (e.g. we naturally click well as I did with this woman). But I keep running into women in their 30's who are looking for husband material. I think my qualities tend to attract that type most strongly, but I'm nowhere near ready for that (I'm only one year out of a marriage). I just want to casual…
/r/seduction25/04/11 06:54 PM
1

I didn't even ask, decided it wasn't necessary.
/r/seduction25/04/11 05:38 PM
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Dance Game I had purchased floor tickets for the concert. I love to dance (and warned her we would be dancing). So we wander onto the dance floor with her just as a great DJ starts spinning. Things feel slightly awkward, not many people are dancing near us. I need to get her warmed up. So I lean in and whisper: "I've been told by a friend that she thinks I was a stripper in a past life." I'm saying: I have female friends. I dance with them. They like it. She throws back her head and laughs, I ca…
/r/seduction25/04/11 05:05 PM
1

I attended a ten year high school reunion this summer. The party was held at the top of this tramway in my hometown, really nicely done. It was organized by a guy I knew only somewhat during high school, and when I got there I was stunned to see him walking with a cane and a severe limp. Even more striking, though, was the aura about him. Without coming off cocky or arrogant, he walked around with a smile on his face and got so much attention from everybody. I found myself thinking: "I need to c…
/r/seduction25/04/11 05:03 PM
1

I hadn't thought about this, but I agree with you. Alcohol is something I would think you calibrate your approach for. My most recent FR, she started the night sober (when I met her in line), had one drink at the first bar, one partial drink at the second bar, and water at my apartment. She was clearly quite sober (as was I). Met at 10:20PM. Bounced to the second bar about 11:30PM. Bounced to my apartment about 12:30 AM, left my apartment sans f-close about 1:20AM.
/r/seduction18/04/11 07:10 PM
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A little 2:50AM post game analysis. I should have just said: "Screw the kiss" and while we were looking @ photos and my hand was wandering her back / butt, I could have pushed things south. I think she simply wasn't revved up anymore (dancing may have gotten her there, we were doing boat loads of grinding). Perhaps I need to learn to re-heat the woman when we get into my apartment ;) I had intended to throw on dance music in my living room and dance / grind again. But I forgot when we got inside…
/r/seduction17/04/11 09:51 AM
3

No kino on the latino, limited kino on the HB8.5. I did get some kino in on the girl not mentioned in this FR (who it appears may not respond to my phone call - we'll see if a FR comes of that). For the HB8.5 I agree that I'll be wanting to set a strong frame / establish this isn't some friendship if/when she accepts an invite out (I am NOT going to be another one of those guy friends buying her drinks).
/r/seduction16/04/11 02:59 PM
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This was only a Honda dealership. But it does service the beach cities here in south bay - so that probably helps. But when I returned in the afternoon to pick up my car there were zero HB prospects in the waiting area. I probably got lucky with the timing.
/r/seduction16/04/11 02:56 PM
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I end up having a great conversation with the guy in the car. He's young 20's, stylish, and I get a strong PUA vibe from him. He just seems chill, fun, and like he knows how to handle people (he does work at a car rental place, after all). So he drops me off and I go in, wait for space at the counter. A woman (HB7A) at the counter calls me up. I'm on a streak with the HB's this morning? What the heck. So she's doing her thing and there is another HB7B working next to her. I notice a calendar on …
/r/seduction16/04/11 02:07 AM
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It can be really difficult to un-seduce a girl politely. I've been extremely blunt with this one girl lately. We had a pretty intense 24 hours at an event, and I thought maybe we could stay in touch. But she fell hard and wanted exclusivity. I've had to be blunt to the point where I cringe when I hit "send" on my email, yet it just seems to make her more attracted. I guess it's the ultimate disqualification... Because you mean it.
/r/seduction08/04/11 07:48 PM
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I'll try switching up what I drink, see if that leads to a softer let-down. I like drinking when I'm out but in LA I have to drive so damn often. Her apartment wasn't taxi distance to the event either, else I would have suggested something like that (and alcohol would have been a great excuse not to drive home afterwards).
/r/seduction08/04/11 05:38 AM
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I am laughing hard in my living room. This FR is great. Talk about knowing what she wants =D
/r/seduction08/04/11 03:27 AM
2

I think you should fuck her (and a bunch of other girls too). It's posts like these that get me off my lazy ass and logged into reddit so I can upvote. Tofu got me laughing.
/r/seduction07/04/11 07:30 PM
1

LOL! Cliffhanger! But there is more to tell. I just need some time to write it up. I don't want you guys / gals getting tired of reading my walls of text.
/r/seduction02/04/11 04:35 AM
3

Can a cougar jump a tiger?
/r/seduction01/04/11 12:27 AM
2

Like the foreplay comment.
/r/seduction01/04/11 12:24 AM
1

I have been told by numerous friends that I am over-intellectualizing the dating process. I don't doubt they are correct, and that I'm blowing chances sometimes as a result. I was recently introduced to the multi-arm bandit problem and immediately I thought "this is like dating multiple women at once..." I'm trying to absorb seddit concepts while not thinking too much during active pursuits.
/r/seduction31/03/11 07:59 PM
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I'll be posting follow ups. So far two substantial dates and three mini dates, a few emails and too many text messages (but this turns out to be her preference).
/r/seduction31/03/11 07:04 PM
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The "I could have done better" is sort of a rough line to open with. If they call you out and make you re-take it, it could be hard to back the statement up. Maybe something playful next time? Like "Hey, where's waldo?" Or something that makes them look at the photo again before realizing you are just playing with them.
/r/seduction28/03/11 10:53 PM
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Second this
/r/seduction27/03/11 04:18 PM
1

I do plan to follow up with the HB8. I have to decide who I want to meet up with this week, I have a couple prospects.
/r/seduction27/03/11 04:14 PM
2

facepalm Clearly (and thankfully) I'm not teaching anything English related. Edited the original because I feel foolish otherwise. Glad you enjoyed the FR.
/r/seduction26/03/11 08:52 PM
2

A show where you're sitting the whole time like that is probably not a great first date choice I Agree. I thought it was actually going to be more awkward than it was. The venue certainly slowed down the progression. Might wanna stay quiet about the past marriage until after you have sex, btw. Sometimes I have no trouble keeping this under wraps (some women don't put my personal life on the spot), other times it bothers me not to go there. Example from a brief phonecall with this HB7.5 prior to …
/r/seduction25/03/11 11:31 PM
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I've tested the waters here a bit lately, but I do think the women have seen me as higher value (but I never advertise it). Personally, I've managed to be extremely up-front with these women. If asked I tell them there are other women in the picture, and that I'm sleeping with them. If conversation warrants talk about relationships, I come out and tell them a bit about where I'm at - I'm not ready for a serious relationship (sometimes I even have to throw in "I'm not feeling it with you" - which…
/r/seduction17/03/11 10:09 PM
1

have you got a prettier sister you can set me up with? This made me laugh. I think I'll pull this out sometime.
/r/seduction17/03/11 10:01 PM
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I feel like I get guys hitting on me all the time and I'm not making any attempt whatsoever or moving in those circles. Being unavailable / dis-interested builds attraction far better than chasing and expressing interest... Perhaps what you have noticed here is that when you don't chase, they come to you. Same holds for women.
/r/seduction17/03/11 09:56 PM
1

This was my second time to First Fridays. It has proven an excellent pick-up event. I can also highly recommend Night Life at the California Academy of Sciences in San Fran (Thursday nights).
/r/seduction17/03/11 04:25 PM
1

I work in Wireless Sensor Networks research. Rather than explain the specific work I do there (which is tedious and generally less apt to analogy) I give people an application description instead. One of my two preferred applications is vineyard monitoring (the other is emergency medical care triage). Deficit Irrigation for Vineyards Wireless Sensor Networks for Vineyard Monitoring
/r/seduction17/03/11 04:22 PM
1

I don't know what her relationship status is, nor what their exclusivity is IF they are still dating. If I cross a line she'll let me know, I'm leaving that up to her. And I'm in no hurry here, it could be that she's in a relationship still with him but wants a friend with chemistry around - parked. I'm in no hurry - this is a slow burn.
/r/seduction26/02/11 04:42 PM
1

I do sometimes link random photos from google image search. Sometimes I get a laugh in response - think this is the first negative response (or confused response) I've had. Perhaps I should have stuck with a cartoon Pocahontas (or no image at all). But it has worked in the past... And it keeps her on her toes - which is a goal isn't it? Keep her wondering what you are getting at.
/r/seduction25/02/11 11:30 PM
1

Go places where you like who you're with. Go places where the women inspire you. This! I've had a blast / great success at science-y events. Examples are Night Life at the California Academy of Sciences and First Fridays at the Natural History Museum. The women are interesting, topics of conversation are terrific, it's just a lot of fun.
/r/seduction18/02/11 01:03 AM
1

Be careful with the "probably won't risk it again" mentality off of one negative result. Too much Survivor Bias can be a bad thing =D
/r/seduction01/02/11 11:04 PM
2

I've not been doing this very long, but I'm feeling similarly about this. Girls that are insecure about sex are a big turn off - this has been killing attraction for me on a few younger prospects so far (young to mid 20's). On average, I'm having much more enjoyable interactions with women in their 30's. I keep hoping I just haven't found the right 24 year old women.. or maybe my weak (but growing) game is simply so much easier to apply on the sexual 30 year olds.
/r/seduction31/01/11 11:38 PM
1

Wow, that was terrific. So good that I immediately went to his website to find out if he's performing in LA. Turns out he's in NY in May... and was in LA (where I live) three weeks ago. FUCK. Sigh.
/r/seduction31/01/11 02:13 AM
2

This. Is. Awesome.
/r/seduction11/01/11 11:00 PM
1

I actually think making out on the dance floor (or at any time the first night you meet a girl if it's not a SNL) reduces attraction because it relieves sexual tension Here is a question for you. I have read this opinion before, and generally am trying to apply it. But just last weekend I had build really good attraction with an HB7.5 at a club and found her go in for the kiss on me (after dancing for awhile). What do you do when the girl forces a move? Do you hesistate / tell her you don't make…
/r/seduction11/01/11 10:56 PM
1

That said, you barely asker her to invest in you. Don't you care if she's good enough for you? I like this advice. I need to work on that portion of my game (I AM not going to dig just any woman, she better be impressive - or at least that's the vibe I need to give off).
/r/seduction09/01/11 02:21 AM
1

My edit was very beta, wasn't it? oops ;) Standing my ground is something I am having to learn in night game too - particularly in the late night club scene where women are hitting me with some seriously aggressive shit tests occasionally. The Nice guy / Honest Guy complex has me wanting to apologize sometimes. Such a terrible reflex! Ugg.
/r/seduction08/01/11 06:33 PM
1

except that actresses are awfully full of themselves, and are a dime a dozen (especially at the IMDB level you discovered) I edited my P.S. statement to reflect the dime a dozen you claim - but I suppose is a reasonable assessment. Also, full of self is quite possible... I didn't detect an attitude in our interaction though (in fact the FB hate group surprised me). The iPhone was made for pickup It's been proven statistically by okCupid! ;) See here. But seriously, I've loaded it with photos fro…
/r/seduction08/01/11 06:30 AM
1

Saved. A trip to Austin has been on my radar for a few months now (I keep hearing great things). Also UT Austin does research in my area, might end up entertaining the job market there.
/r/seduction08/01/11 05:21 AM
1

the lingering book and the idea of you has helped your long term game. I'm believe I've been at this long enough now to notice trends in my strengths / weaknesses. My short term game is not as strong as my long term game My night game is not as strong as my day game I hope to work on this. If I can get a woman to hang around me long enough they tend to be quite attracted / impressed. My impression is that my outer game isn't good enough at night (I'm hoping it's just experience) to hold them aro…
/r/seduction07/01/11 07:59 AM
1

The general advice on Seddit (which I agree with) is to not give unsolicited gifts to women you haven't slept with, for any reason. De-bolded my book DHV... don't want to be emphasizing questionable advice. This may be a case of Survivor Bias, in that I'm 2 for 2 on the book gift / f-close. I do think it stands out a bit (not just any book, it's a intellectual / human rights themed book, and I think that settles well with these types of women). I find it a major turnoff for a woman to talk about…
/r/seduction06/01/11 10:16 PM
1

I typed this up after talking to her, the typos all over the place are because I had notepad open but off the screen, I was typing blind in case she approached me. I had purposefully selected a seat that wasn't facing her (so she wouldn't think I was sitting there staring at her the entire time she wrote the letter). I didn't want her walking up on me typing up a chat log ;) Boarding was not long after the interaction, I made a comment as she boarded - wasn't able to get close to her on the flig…
/r/seduction30/12/10 12:49 AM
2

only thing I'd change is to make more statements rather than question after question so that it's more of a conversation than an interrogation. This is something I'm working on. I think this approach had me more nervous, it didn't start out smoothly (I do a better job of asking fewer Q's when she opens up and seems to want me there initially). Should have grabbed her number, though ;) Yeah, and maybe her name? She was probably caught a little off guard when I just tried to up and leave and hadn'…
/r/seduction30/12/10 12:47 AM
1

Final follow up here, Amanda friended me on facebook. Though I get strong avoid-online-game vibes on seddit, I think the circumstances here tipped the balance (1: Don't know what she looks like, 2: Won't be back for months). Upshot, in photos I'd place her at an HB6. Not as sold by Dawn's boyfriend - nice call Mouthpiece ;) I suppose the question now will be whether I aim for a night out with her+friends when I return, or start from scratch (which worked out fine this trip).
/r/seduction29/12/10 03:35 PM
2

Anytime a woman offers to buy you a drink and then invites you to the dance floor, she's interested, boyfriend or not. Maybe she's interested in a backup plan in case the boyfriend doesn't work out. you could be that backup plan. Noted. My intuition was along these lines, but as I haven't gotten a response to my email yet (from Samantha) and I know she had a fair bit of alcohol, I'm wondering if she is uncomfortable with her activities last night? So far I'm calling it a flake. Also @ wtfchuck h…
/r/seduction29/12/10 03:32 AM
1

I do think this was to some degree me ejecting after a successful night. I had such a good time and didn't really want to push things comfort-wise further (potentially ending the night on a down note). I was also driving home, and I'm responsible there. The alcohol was wearing off (2 beers 4 hours prior to heading home), so I was starting to get tired / crash. It felt pretty good to open a few HB7/8 on the walk out of the club, get positive results and then leave (Self-image building of abundanc…
/r/seduction28/12/10 04:17 PM
1

don't be afraid to be a bit more assertive/aggressive This is most certainly my next barrier, I'm working on it. I've been the "nice guy" since High School. I'm learning that you can be a good guy without being that super helpful, pliable male. My Nice Guy ways don't want to make a girl uncomfortable by coming on too strong, but I think that's just an excuse I've built up. Sounds like being too nice can make women uncomfortable too! But getting comfortable with being assertive / aggressive is ab…
/r/seduction28/12/10 04:11 PM
1

The Congress' Tap Room (and then their dance club)
/r/seduction28/12/10 04:05 PM
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