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Careful, too much logic here :)
/r/MensRights26/04/23 02:44 PM
1

The great inclusivity paradox, I suppose. Inclusive language is just equivalent to vague language. For instance, are you ‘a person with parental responsibilities’ or are you a mother of a child? Are you a father of a child? Are you a guardian of a child? Are you neither? Case closed.
/r/MensRights25/04/23 05:44 PM
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Should they not being saying ‘person with parental responsibilities’, or some such in this woke era?
/r/MensRights24/04/23 05:08 PM
4

At least you didn’t get accused of the dreaded mansplaining!
/r/MensRights24/04/23 03:17 PM
4

The thing that gets me is that feminists claim that women are oppressed, despite society being almost obsessed with ‘women’s rights’.
/r/MensRights22/04/23 12:53 PM
7

Oopsies.
/r/MensRights20/04/23 10:58 PM
2

Normal yes, morally right on the other hand is up for debate.
/r/MensRights19/04/23 06:05 PM
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Not even just about wrongfully accusing, just disagreeing with any aspect of feminism. For instance, if a woman is pro-life, then that would be met with hatred by the modern feminist movement.
/r/MensRights19/04/23 05:58 PM
2

I agree. I’ve often been accused of ‘sealioning’ after asking any form of question.
/r/MensRights19/04/23 05:51 PM
2

Out of interest, have you come across the term ‘sealioning’?
/r/MensRights19/04/23 05:42 PM
6

Downvoting is not the worst aspect. You could say that downvoting is the same as disagreeing, which is fair enough. If I don’t like what you’ve said, then I downvote you. The real concern, is banning or other similar actions. I don’t like your opinion, BANNED. Your opinion is different to mine? HOW DARE YOU, leave this community. Even further than that, there is the issue of critical thinking and discussion. If I explain why you are incorrect about something, and then you take offence and ban me…
/r/MensRights19/04/23 05:36 PM
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Surprise surprise. Sorry Bob, you are dead, but your wife is the most affected by that.
/r/MensRights19/04/23 05:18 PM
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I suppose that makes sense since I think it produces answers based on human explanations or reasoning. But in normal mode, only the ‘right’ explanations are allowed.
/r/MensRights19/04/23 03:26 PM
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And no ban without a good reason.
/r/MensRights19/04/23 03:06 PM
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Hard to call yourself a women’s rights movement when you ignore the input of women.
/r/MensRights19/04/23 03:06 PM
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But but, the patriarchy? :(
/r/MensRights19/04/23 05:46 AM
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Women are the primary victims of male death?
/r/MensRights17/04/23 06:47 AM
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Thanks for your input.
/r/MensRights16/04/23 12:43 PM
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The bit that gets me is the banning for disagreeing. I hope this community never resorts to that, in any circumstance, short of actual violence or calls to action.
/r/MensRights15/04/23 04:07 PM
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ChatGPT is stupid anyway. It won’t provide decent answers to questions because it has been programmed with ‘inclusivity’ at its core. Answers frequently contain some spiel about respecting identities and treating everyone equally, which is redundant because its obvious.
/r/MensRights15/04/23 07:55 AM
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screams in patriarchy
/r/MensRights15/04/23 07:51 AM
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LGBTQ men are specifically affected though…
/r/MensRights15/04/23 07:50 AM
1

Perhaps you are right. Thank you for your input and thoughts thus far.
/r/MensRights14/04/23 09:42 PM
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Ironically, I think you have now seen it used as an insult.
/r/MensRights14/04/23 09:38 PM
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Perhaps, but it’s not used in that way today. It is used as a social justice term, or sometimes as an insult.
/r/MensRights14/04/23 09:34 PM
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It’s a fact that it is used in a social justice way, yes.
/r/MensRights14/04/23 09:28 PM
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Perhaps, but it is not used in a scientific way today, usually used as a social justice term.
/r/MensRights14/04/23 09:19 PM
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Similar to my above comment, the doctor does not assign a sex. Your sex is either male or female, the doctor merely observes which one it is.
/r/MensRights14/04/23 09:19 PM
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It isn’t assigned, it is observed. Technically you can say ‘assigned’ but the word has a different feel to it. If I assign you a job role, that suggests I have chosen that role for you, perhaps because I think you would be best at data entry. Sex on the other hand, is observed by a physician, and then recorded. They haven’t chosen the sex for you, they’ve looked at you and gone ‘yep, that’s a male (or female)’.
/r/MensRights14/04/23 09:17 PM
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It’s not a scientific term, it’s a social justice term.
/r/MensRights14/04/23 09:14 PM
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Because feminism, that’s why :D
/r/MensRights14/04/23 05:54 PM
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I’d say less immoral, as men often cheat due to lack of intimacy, whereas women cheat due to ‘love’ and emotions.
/r/MensRights13/04/23 07:59 AM
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Not really. If I introduced you to my friend, Sarah, who is a very intelligent woman, she studies Physics, you wouldn’t use ‘they’ you would use ‘she’ because you now know the sex of the specified person. ‘They’ is used in cases where this is unspecified, such as ‘if you bring a friend, please ensure that THEY bring their own lunch’.
/r/MensRights02/04/23 10:44 AM
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Misogynist, racist, sexism, etc are buzzwords, used to discredit and dismiss people’s opinions, unfortunately. They rarely mean what they should mean.
/r/MensRights02/04/23 10:03 AM
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I see, it can be difficult to determine sex in some situations. Sex is very relevant in many situations, not just intimate partners.
/r/MensRights02/04/23 04:47 AM
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Yes, but only when the sex is unknown. You could equally say ‘what room is he or she in’?
/r/MensRights02/04/23 03:39 AM
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Isn’t ‘they’ plural?
/r/MensRights02/04/23 03:38 AM
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‘They’ is used when the sex of the person is unknown or as a group collective. For instance, ‘please ensure you sign your child’s permission slip. If THEY do not have a signed slip, THEY will not be allowed on the trip’.
/r/MensRights02/04/23 03:37 AM
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You could also say ‘he or she is expected to…’
/r/MensRights02/04/23 03:35 AM
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For instance, using ‘they’.
/r/MensRights02/04/23 03:35 AM
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Is it necessary to use sentences without pronouns?
/r/MensRights02/04/23 03:34 AM
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I think the best option is to use ‘they’ etc. This is because you do not know the sex of whoever is conducting the research or whatever.
/r/MensRights02/04/23 03:34 AM
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Obviously. We shouldn’t ‘focus’ on women at the expense of men though, that’s the point.
/r/MensRights01/04/23 03:41 PM
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I hereby award you the platinum feminist medal, please enter your name for the feminist of the year raffle.
/r/MensRights01/04/23 08:37 AM
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What’s your point?
/r/MensRights31/03/23 07:51 PM
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The highest degree of caring.
/r/MensRights31/03/23 06:27 PM
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But don’t forget, we must focus on violence against women and girls.
/r/MensRights31/03/23 12:07 PM
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Another interesting point is that it is often claimed that women are expected to do household work etc, but is that actually the case? What proportion of that is women choosing to do the tasks themselves, or the man doing other tasks instead? Etc etc. How many other tasks, duties, or responsibilities are men expected to do, that go unmentioned by feminists? In addition, if your partner really does expect you to do all households tasks with nothing in return, why are you still with them?
/r/MensRights31/03/23 11:34 AM
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The classic defence. When something disadvantages women, it’s evidence of the patriarch, without a shadow of a doubt. When something disadvantages men and/or benefits women, it’s suddenly ‘gender inequality can manifest in complex ways’.
/r/MensRights28/03/23 02:46 PM
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And this is one way that you can tell that feminism is not for women. Many women are against it, and feminism doesn’t respect their opinions.
/r/MensRights27/03/23 03:08 PM
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If man yes.
/r/MensRights27/03/23 11:44 AM
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Funny how teachers aren’t supposed to be ‘political’ unless of course it’s the right kind of political!
/r/MensRights25/03/23 02:16 PM
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Ah I see, it’s capitalism that is the problem, surprise surprise that you came to that conclusion.
/r/MensRights24/03/23 07:57 PM
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How is not? What if the victim is too afraid etc to fight back?
/r/MensRights24/03/23 07:23 PM
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True, but this has been tried several times before and has failed spectacularly. It’s not a case of ‘hey what about this system that we haven’t tried’.
/r/MensRights24/03/23 07:22 PM
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I think you misunderstand the word ‘realistic’.
/r/MensRights24/03/23 07:06 PM
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I expect they get taught from a young age about how women are ‘oppressed’ and how wonderful feminism is.
/r/MensRights24/03/23 07:06 PM
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They may not be common, but they are certainly realistic. In any case, it can and does happen.
/r/MensRights24/03/23 07:04 PM
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I here the Soviet Union did pretty well… Oh wait…
/r/MensRights24/03/23 07:03 PM
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So in other words, there are no successful socialist countries in the way that you described…
/r/MensRights24/03/23 07:03 PM
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Quite easily. Physically it could be done with drugs, or a strong woman overpowering a weak man. There are other ways too, such as manipulation or blackmail.
/r/MensRights24/03/23 07:01 PM
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It’s just a common theme in spaces like that, such as feminism, gender identity, etc. Disagree and then you get banned.
/r/MensRights22/03/23 07:47 PM
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I didn’t, until I was banned from the aforementioned sub.
/r/MensRights21/03/23 07:52 PM
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I’ve forgotten what the exact rule was, but I don’t think it mentioned ‘mistreatment’ by other moderators, only bans, so presumably the former is fair game for discussion.
/r/MensRights21/03/23 07:48 PM
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It doesn’t make that much sense. For instance, a well known feminist subreddit frequently bans people for disagreeing with them or raising men’s rights issues. That means that men’s rights issues aren’t taken seriously or are dismissed. That would be worthy of discussion on this subreddit.
/r/MensRights21/03/23 07:46 PM
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That’s thing, especially with sexual harassment being defined as ‘unwanted behaviour’. As soon as something is unwanted it automatically becomes harassment, even in a completely innocent case like saying ‘Those glasses look really nice on you’. Thankfully most women have common sense and don’t interpret everything as harassment, but a significant minority will.
/r/MensRights21/03/23 04:12 PM
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In reality there is no reason to have any particular race as role models. That is perpetuating racism, as it teaches people that they can only relate to their own race.
/r/MensRights20/03/23 12:41 PM
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Time to ditch that friend, if she’s a member of a such a group.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 06:07 PM
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Women are the primary victims of false accusations?
/r/MensRights17/03/23 02:07 AM
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Right but you have to look at the data more closely. Obviously the gender pay gap exists. It will always exist. There will never be a situation where the average pay is exactly equal.
/r/MensRights14/03/23 06:01 PM
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Well it’s just nonsense in general. Rape is taken very seriously as a crime. It can be difficult to prove, but that doesn’t mean it is not taken seriously.
/r/MensRights14/03/23 05:58 PM
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And feminists have the cheek to say that rape is not taken seriously!
/r/MensRights13/03/23 11:53 PM
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Your logic has been deemed misogynistic and toxic, stop supporting the patriarchy.
/r/MensRights13/03/23 07:58 PM
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Exactly
/r/MensRights13/03/23 07:57 PM
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Stop targeting women journalists. They make up 11% of the victims. Do you hear me? 11%! Much less than 50%. STOP targeting individuals who make up less than half the casualties. Target the other sex instead. Oh wait, you already are…
/r/MensRights13/03/23 07:57 PM
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It’s a very significant ‘picked’ aspect. That would be akin to saying that when you look at women who have children, they earn less (but not important as it is a cherry picked aspect as you say).
/r/MensRights13/03/23 04:53 PM
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Actually, there has been some research to indicate that women under 30 outearn men of the same age. The ‘gender pay gap’ doesn’t take that into account.
/r/MensRights13/03/23 04:20 PM
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I have said this before, but my personal favourite response was claiming that two numbers added to give -5, when they most certainly did not.
/r/MensRights13/03/23 04:17 PM
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See now I have more questions. Does the judge really think it is valid reasoning, or is it just an excuse to let her go free?
/r/MensRights12/03/23 01:29 PM
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Funny how the only systemic discrimination seems to be towards men…
/r/MensRights12/03/23 01:10 PM
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The last sentence is concerning.
/r/MensRights12/03/23 02:22 AM
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That can be challenged though if one suspects it is not a genuine restructuring.
/r/MensRights12/03/23 02:19 AM
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Shouldn’t even need to find a comparable case here. A bit like saying ‘hmm, you murdered him? Well I can’t seem to find another case like that, you are free to go’
/r/MensRights11/03/23 10:16 AM
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If it’s an equal world, then it shouldn’t be expected. Or both men and women should offer the seat if they think someone needs it more.
/r/MensRights11/03/23 10:13 AM
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Exactly. A bit like feminists saying they are against the draft, but we don’t seem to be looking to have that abolished…
/r/MensRights11/03/23 10:10 AM
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Of course it matters… Everyone is equal. Equality doesn’t mean that the exact same outcome occurs in every situation…
/r/MensRights11/03/23 06:47 AM
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The indoctrination starts from a young age, sadly.
/r/MensRights11/03/23 06:42 AM
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Women’s breasts are sexual, men’s ‘breasts’ are not, primarily because they don’t exist.
/r/MensRights11/03/23 06:41 AM
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It’s a cop out. Feminism claims to be for equality, so it should be fighting for both sexes. Obviously it doesn’t. Now, if you want to admit that feminism doesn’t care about men at all, then fair enough, now you have a point.
/r/MensRights11/03/23 06:39 AM
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But that isn’t an equality issue. Men can’t show their sexual body parts, women can’t show their sexual body parts.
/r/MensRights11/03/23 06:32 AM
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Not sure why you’ve been downvoted, this is a great point. Imagine the sexual assault/catcalling that would happen if a woman walked topless down the street.
/r/MensRights11/03/23 06:25 AM
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How is it about equality?
/r/MensRights11/03/23 06:24 AM
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It’s impossible to not be sexualised. If someone finds you sexually attractive then you are being sexualised in that way. You can’t control that.
/r/MensRights11/03/23 06:24 AM
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In the west there aren’t any ‘rights’ that women don’t have compared to men. There are a few common ‘rights’ that are brought up to try and justify their position. Abortion. Particularly relevant in the US now. They will often say ‘women had their reproductive rights taken away’ or some such statement. Of course, this presupposes that abortion is moral. There are plenty of women who are pro life and would disagree with that, so it isn’t very accurate to say it is a ‘right’. Pay gaps. A frequent …
/r/MensRights11/03/23 06:21 AM
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Not usually, it’s sometimes brought up as a ‘HAH, look a law that discriminates against women’ and then promptly forgotten about.
/r/MensRights11/03/23 06:16 AM
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How can one cleanse said ‘original sin’?
/r/MensRights11/03/23 06:14 AM
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True, although it does place a duty on public authorities to tackle discrimination, so they would be in breach of their own law I suppose.
/r/MensRights11/03/23 06:14 AM
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A very good point. The worrying issue though, is that they aren’t even pretending to make it ‘equal’, it’s blatantly unequal. Very scary and shows how far this has all gone. We are now at the point where people are completely fine with being prejudiced against men.
/r/MensRights11/03/23 06:11 AM
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Watch out, that might be offensive :(
/r/MensRights10/03/23 10:16 PM
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Come to think of it, why does it matter if it was built by men? Built FOR men could be an issue (if it were true), but why does built BY men matter?
/r/MensRights10/03/23 08:25 PM
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The point is that the law is unequal, and women can and do certainly do some of the things mentioned. It may not be a ‘big’ problem, but that’s irrelevant.
/r/MensRights10/03/23 04:26 PM
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NOT THAT KIND OF EQUALITY!
/r/MensRights10/03/23 04:24 PM
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A rather telling paragraph: Women making unwanted sexually-motivated advances towards men, or discussing their sexual conquests in public, would not face sanctions under the legislation. Hmmmm. However, luckily this law would then clash with the Equality Act, as it discriminates against men based on gender, so hopefully should be able to be challenged legally if someone has the guts to do it.
/r/MensRights10/03/23 04:23 PM
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Why is this research being funded…
/r/MensRights10/03/23 12:02 PM
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Peer pressure and likely already influenced from a young age to agree with this sort of thing.
/r/MensRights10/03/23 07:24 AM
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Where’s that privilege everyone keeps telling me I have?
/r/MensRights10/03/23 07:23 AM
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That’s true. The critical was at the argument of ‘you should have nothing to hide’ rather than paternity tests in general.
/r/MensRights05/03/23 10:56 PM
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The criticism was at the argument of ‘if you did nothing wrong, then you have nothing to hide’. Sir, you don’t mind if I have a quick sample of your dna to check for crimes, do you? You have nothing to hide, right? I think you get the gist now, I hope.
/r/MensRights05/03/23 10:55 PM
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Men and women should objectify each other?
/r/MensRights05/03/23 05:21 AM
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A strategic approach!
/r/MensRights05/03/23 05:20 AM
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Systemic misogyny doesn’t exist, despite all those who claim it does.
/r/MensRights05/03/23 05:07 AM
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Yes and no, they aren’t the same language wise but are related to each other.
/r/MensRights05/03/23 05:06 AM
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Why aren’t women going into STEM? - Gender studies graduate 2k23
/r/MensRights05/03/23 05:03 AM
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The classic argument. Let me search your room, you have nothing to hide, right? :D
/r/MensRights05/03/23 04:59 AM
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It should be in the case of child support or other similar things. E.g, if a man is court ordered to pay x amount for child support, then the court should also prove that the child is actually his. I’m not sure about a general right to request paternity.
/r/MensRights05/03/23 04:58 AM
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Hang on, that can’t be right, women are oppressed, aren’t they…?
/r/MensRights04/03/23 11:48 PM
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INB4 omg feminism is against conscription, please don’t mention that again!
/r/MensRights04/03/23 06:57 PM
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Ironic that women objectify men!
/r/MensRights04/03/23 06:56 PM
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Depends. Isn’t TERF a thing these days? Are TERFs actually radical, or are those labelling them as such radical?
/r/MensRights04/03/23 07:43 AM
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This is a typical reaction when someone has lost an argument or can’t explain their position properly. Unfortunately feminism and other ideas are so socially popular that they still win, despite not having a proper argument.
/r/MensRights04/03/23 07:41 AM
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Now reverse the sexes and predict the sentence. Male privilege in action?
/r/MensRights04/03/23 02:40 AM
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One issue here is that when a rape suspect is acquitted, the accusation is not necessarily investigated as false. This applies to other crimes as well. For instance, if I report Fred to the police for burglary, they might well investigate and charge Free, but then Fred is found innocent by the court. The police won’t then automatically investigate me for making a false accusation.
/r/MensRights04/03/23 02:35 AM
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Very true. Part of the ‘believe all women’ movement.
/r/MensRights04/03/23 02:33 AM
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All the stats etc are irrelevant, they will disagree with you automatically. The false rape accusation statistic will be difficult to measure accurately. Ideally, it should be left to mathematicians and statisticians to determine the validity of it, but that is not how the world works.
/r/MensRights04/03/23 02:33 AM
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‘Most people’ being those who are politically or socially influential?
/r/MensRights04/03/23 02:30 AM
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That’s true. I think the main issue stems from the idea of protecting and providing for women. The whole ‘women and children first’ aspect. That idea is not wrong per se, but feminism ignores that aspect.
/r/MensRights04/03/23 02:30 AM
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Yeah but not very effective in terms of support and popular opinion.
/r/MensRights04/03/23 02:09 AM
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Why? Are brains nothing without beauty?
/r/MensRights04/03/23 02:03 AM
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Are brains nothing without beauty? Are women who are beautiful, but not very clever, less valuable than women who are not beautiful, but intelligent? I expect not, but that’s what the phrase suggests.
/r/MensRights04/03/23 02:01 AM
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Exactly. A bit like someone being a fundamentalist Christian but claiming they are for ‘all faiths’.
/r/MensRights04/03/23 02:00 AM
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Regarding point 3, that would then suggest that masturbation is linked to a reduced risk of prostate cancer, at least in men over 50…
/r/MensRights04/03/23 01:43 AM
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Many other industries are not nice to work in. Why is porn special?
/r/MensRights04/03/23 01:41 AM
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Absolutely not. Anything involving ‘rights’ is not far right automatically. I would expect far right individuals to fight against feminism and ‘woke’ ideas, but men’s rights is not far right in general. There is a middle ground, but none who have proper power or influence. It’s either the woke crowd, or the extreme right etc.
/r/MensRights04/03/23 01:38 AM
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I think that part of the problem is that you don’t really have many options in terms of support. You can either choose the super woke crowd, those who believe women are oppressed, men are privileged, straight white men are super bad, gender identity etc. Or, you can choose the far right, who have troubling views themselves.
/r/MensRights04/03/23 01:28 AM
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What if, all this time, they’ve just been confusing primary and secondary?
/r/MensRights02/03/23 12:42 PM
7

Darn it, I forgot about that.
/r/MensRights01/03/23 02:25 AM
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I thought objectification was bad? #confused
/r/MensRights01/03/23 02:19 AM
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I find that doctors are often not that great at their job. This does tend to be a big issue that feminists bring up, women’s health issues etc. A simple response (to be dismissed and ignored of course) is asking which gender has a massive, internationally recognised, politically supported movement to help address their health issues (along with other issues)?
/r/MensRights01/03/23 01:38 AM
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I think a big, unmentioned issue here, is complaining and arguing. I frequently encounter cases or stories of, usually women, complaining about men, or arguing with them/their partners. The above isn’t necessarily a bad thing, just a thing to be aware of.
/r/MensRights28/02/23 07:36 PM
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How exactly is that going to work if the job requires you to be on site?
/r/MensRights28/02/23 07:52 AM
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I’d consider myself to support equal rights and equality of opportunity for all humans. That seems to be more right wing than left wing these days. I don’t currently support socialism or other such ideologies.
/r/MensRights27/02/23 10:07 PM
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That depends what you mean by ‘left wing’!
/r/MensRights27/02/23 06:39 PM
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Commas, please, we’re dying here.
/r/MensRights25/02/23 11:54 PM
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You did not rape her. Rest easy in that, at least. Seek expert legal advice as soon as possible. Ensure that you keep accurate records of messages she has sent (e.g, the ones to your mother) etc. It may be worth reporting her to the police for harassment, but I would suggest speaking with a legal advisor before doing that.
/r/MensRights25/02/23 11:42 PM
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Just another example of how men are disadvantaged in society. Just like how women are typically the ones to initiate domestic abuse, yet it’s ‘violence against women and girls’ as the slogan.
/r/MensRights25/02/23 10:03 PM
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I agree, but I have seen a lot of comments like that.
/r/MensRights25/02/23 09:21 PM
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Not just white or princess though, anyone who subscribes to feminist or other similar left leaning ideals, typically.
/r/MensRights25/02/23 03:08 PM
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But at the very least they could try to be consistent.
/r/MensRights25/02/23 03:06 PM
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It’s not quite as simple as ‘let ourselves get sent to war’. Usually, refusing to serve would carry a penalty. This is likely very severe in Russia, but even in more friendly’ countries you could be looking at some prison time. Not a tempting option for people.
/r/MensRights25/02/23 02:57 PM
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Omg the internalised misogyny - Some feminist, 2k23.
/r/MensRights25/02/23 02:54 PM
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Why aren’t women going into STEM? - Female Gender Studies Professor 2k23
/r/MensRights25/02/23 12:31 PM
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Perhaps post this article on the ask feminists subreddit, if you can.
/r/MensRights25/02/23 06:52 AM
2

Real question is, who else would do so?
/r/MensRights25/02/23 06:50 AM
1

In a rare moment in this subreddit, I have reported that comment and I would hope the moderators take note of it.
/r/MensRights25/02/23 06:49 AM
2

Maybe some men could give that a try. Break bail conditions to ‘apologise’ to the victims. Judges like that, right? Right…?
/r/MensRights25/02/23 06:47 AM
1

I see what you did there.
/r/MensRights25/02/23 06:45 AM
1

An unacceptable comment, please agree to ‘re-education’
/r/MensRights25/02/23 06:45 AM
7

Wait a minute. ‘Female criminals are more likely to have educational difficulties’. But women do better in education than men…
/r/MensRights25/02/23 06:43 AM
3

I’m sure she was socialised from a young age to stab him. Teach men not to get stabbed, perhaps? Sarcasm obviously
/r/MensRights25/02/23 06:42 AM
1

INB4 this oppresses women due to reinforcing patriarchal ideals or some such nonsense.
/r/MensRights25/02/23 06:40 AM
1

Your honour, somebody stabbed their partner in a domestic abuse case. ‘WHAT, PRISON FOR LIFE IT IS! But, your honour, they were female. ‘WELL THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING, NO PRISON AT ALL.’
/r/MensRights25/02/23 06:39 AM
50

It’s just another silly feminist argument. Just like how they complain that women are the ones who ‘have’ to take birth control. ‘Omg I guarantee if men got pregnant then they would have made birth control for men, such sexist’. No. Women get the benefits of having access to more contraceptive options than men. The only sexism occurring there (if any) would be against men.
/r/MensRights25/02/23 06:36 AM
3

1 year for every year of abuse. Oh wait, it’s less than a third of the time.
/r/MensRights25/02/23 06:32 AM
1

And why do you feel that way?
/r/MensRights24/02/23 07:21 AM
2

Stopped reading at ‘micro-aggression’!
/r/MensRights23/02/23 10:06 PM
-4

I did find that address in my searches. I also found a UK address, but upon further investigation I then find that Reddit is not registered at that address. Do you not know that different countries exist?
/r/MensRights23/02/23 05:30 PM
2

This subreddit is certainly more open to differing opinions than feminist subreddits, that much is true. I would agree that there is probably some anti women sentiment from some people here, and also anti male sentiment from people on feminist subreddits. On the whole though, I suspect that the feminist subreddits hate us much more than we hate them.
/r/MensRights23/02/23 05:29 PM
1

Well, do you dislike women or are you terrified of being around them? Or both? Why is that the case?
/r/MensRights23/02/23 05:26 PM
1

I feel like this question is a trap, somehow. Just a gut feeling.
/r/MensRights23/02/23 05:25 PM
-5

Narrowing down it somewhat, but I do not where in San Francisco… Perhaps I could send a letter to every address?
/r/MensRights23/02/23 05:24 PM
9

Surprise surprise, men didn’t apply for a school ‘for women’
/r/MensRights23/02/23 05:09 PM
8

So both men and women can join? Presumably it should be renamed then.
/r/MensRights23/02/23 05:08 PM
1

Presumably, that should make the actions of the investigator illegal as well…?
/r/MensRights23/02/23 05:06 PM
5

I’m confused. Is the university for women or not for women?
/r/MensRights23/02/23 05:05 PM
1

What we really need is a proper statistical analysis into this issue. That will likely never happen though.
/r/MensRights23/02/23 05:04 PM
6

I agree that you are probably right there, but still, there’s two responses to that. Number 1 is that although the admins may be discriminating against men etc, Reddit or it’s associated companies may not share that view. The admins are employed by someone after all. It’s quite possible that certain admins are acting with relative autonomy and no consequences for that. Number 2 is that causing enough annoyance may be sufficient to address these issues. At the very least they would need to respon…
/r/MensRights23/02/23 04:59 PM
0

Do you identify as man, woman, or triangle?
/r/MensRights20/02/23 09:33 AM
0

Apparently so, I didn’t start the community initially, seems a bit out of place.
/r/MensRights18/02/23 12:22 PM
2

Imagine a male nurse saying that to a female patient. ‘Don’t worry, it’s nothing I haven’t seen before’. Cue sexual harassment accusations.
/r/MensRights18/02/23 08:47 AM
2

Personally I think that given the nursing shortage, people shouldn’t complain about not having a nurse of the preferred sex, but it should at least be fair and not prioritise female patients over male patients!
/r/MensRights18/02/23 08:46 AM
1

A few, compared to how many for other groups? Also, many of the schemes on your list are not actually exclusive to men, they are just general scholarships.
/r/MensRights18/02/23 08:44 AM
2

Quite possibly. I’ve already had some feminists claim that boys doing worse in education is just because girls are smarter!
/r/MensRights18/02/23 08:42 AM
2

Exactly. I’ve never given much weight to the whole idea of ‘systemic oppression’ but if anyone is ‘systematically oppressed’ then it’s men.
/r/MensRights18/02/23 08:41 AM
2

I think it’s more concerning than that. It seems to suggest that you would have to prove that a yes was verbally said, otherwise it could count as rape (even if actually fully consensual).
/r/MensRights17/02/23 01:09 AM
2

I am indeed
/r/MensRights17/02/23 01:03 AM
1

How are they useless?
/r/MensRights17/02/23 01:01 AM
3

Indeed. It also raises many other questions.
/r/MensRights17/02/23 12:32 AM
19

And sadly, this isn’t even the most worrying law that Spain has/will enact, such as the ‘yes means yes’ law.
/r/MensRights16/02/23 05:32 PM
37

Exactly! If you are too sick to work, then sick leave it is. Actually, what does this law actually do? Do they get extra time off on top of the normal sick leave? Or is this just part of the usual sick leave but dressed up as something else?
/r/MensRights16/02/23 05:32 PM
16

INB4 ‘But it’s meeeennn committing those violent crimes’
/r/MensRights16/02/23 10:02 AM
2

Darn, I forgot about the patriarchy, and here I thought that men were suffering :(
/r/MensRights16/02/23 12:43 AM
7

Even worse, she attacked a paramedic!
/r/MensRights16/02/23 12:41 AM
2

But here it’s called ‘reproductive coercion’ instead of rape :(
/r/MensRights15/02/23 08:00 PM
3

Please do take advantage of that open door :D
/r/MensRights14/02/23 05:22 PM
3

You’re just devolving into personal comments and attacks now, so I guess this conversation isn’t going anywhere!
/r/MensRights13/02/23 11:06 AM
6

Incel is now used as an insult or dismissal of opinions, regardless of whether the word applies or not.
/r/MensRights13/02/23 11:05 AM
2

I agree that it shouldn’t be ‘men against women’. Unfortunately the vocal and influential feminists, as well as governments and other institutions are making it that way by only focusing on, and helping women.
/r/MensRights13/02/23 10:59 AM
16

Be that as it may, women are still afforded the privilege of being able to choose whether to fight or not. Their government and society protects them (albeit not always successfully, as you point out). That would depend on how you define ‘oppression’. I’d consider it to be when the state or society affords privileges to certain groups, and denies them to one or more other groups.
/r/MensRights13/02/23 10:52 AM
12

The men are forced to do that, they don’t have a choice. I’m sure some of them are eagerly signing up, but many do not have a choice and must just accept being thrown into the meat grinder. Meanwhile the women are protected and avoid this responsibility.
/r/MensRights13/02/23 10:00 AM
4

It’s much less of an echo chamber than certain other subreddits. The moderators have allowed you to voice your opposing views without banning you, unlike other subreddits. Unfortunately the downvote flood appears to still happen here, you’ve received many downvotes despite making a decent argument.
/r/MensRights13/02/23 09:58 AM
7

Nothing wrong with flirting at work, as long as you don’t harass people.
/r/MensRights12/02/23 08:32 PM
1

Also, no human being likes to admit that they are wrong.
/r/MensRights12/02/23 03:52 PM
26

Possible experiment: Post this on a feminist subreddit, and see what responses you receive.
/r/MensRights10/02/23 06:15 PM
1

Yeah, I think we all know she doesn’t really care about men’s issues, it’s just to pretend to care about equality. I suspect that, at least.
/r/MensRights08/02/23 01:13 AM
8

Don’t worry, there is no shortage of articles etc written about/for women!
/r/MensRights08/02/23 01:04 AM
1

What does it smell like?
/r/MensRights07/02/23 09:13 PM
7

I guess no, because feminism or something…?
/r/MensRights07/02/23 06:49 PM
75

I can almost taste the EqUaLiTy
/r/MensRights06/02/23 06:11 PM
9

It’s more of a buzzword to evoke an emotive response. When you hear ‘rape culture’, it sounds really bad. The culture is based around rape? The culture supports and encourages rape? How awful, we must stop this! Of course, that isn’t the reality. Our culture does not support rape, obviously.
/r/MensRights06/02/23 06:05 PM
8

That’s more than I expected!
/r/MensRights06/02/23 10:40 AM
14

Shouldn’t be that hard to find a nice doctor to ‘confirm’ things for you.
/r/MensRights05/02/23 03:26 PM
82

Time for some gender identity magic?
/r/MensRights05/02/23 11:08 AM
27

Do you mean toilets that only accommodate one person at a time, or gendered toilets in general?
/r/MensRights02/02/23 08:47 PM
9

Poor snakies
/r/MensRights02/02/23 08:45 PM
7

Men bad, women good?
/r/MensRights02/02/23 08:44 PM
9

Yay equality
/r/MensRights02/02/23 01:25 PM
1

Sounds like a logical problem!
/r/MensRights02/02/23 09:36 AM
1

ChatGPT is badly programmed in any case, woke or not. I meant to make a post about this, but I recently engaged in some ‘conversations’ with the bot. Long story cut short, the bot claimed that a statement could be both true and false at the same time.
/r/MensRights02/02/23 08:28 AM
1

Your original comment ‘But they are not the same? Only one can be true. Which one to pick?’ The feelings could be the same as the reality. Therefore, both would be true. Pedantic perhaps, but logically correct.
/r/MensRights02/02/23 08:25 AM
1

Well indeed, if they aren’t equal then they aren’t equal, but that wasn’t what you originally said!
/r/MensRights02/02/23 12:02 AM
-2

If the feelings align with reality, then they would both be true… So it is possible for both to be true at the same time.
/r/MensRights01/02/23 11:52 PM
1

Exactly, meaning that both could be true!
/r/MensRights01/02/23 11:48 PM
1

Indeed, apparently the other ‘more extreme’ views are fine!
/r/MensRights01/02/23 11:26 PM
23

Darn it, you beat me to it!
/r/MensRights01/02/23 09:47 PM
2

*college removes a race’s photos from its entrance to demonstrate that it thinks all races are equal, except for some which are apparently less equal than others.
/r/MensRights01/02/23 09:39 PM
4

I’m sure you do. However, he was not referring to himself specifically, which is what you took issue with.
/r/MensRights01/02/23 08:40 PM
7

Quite possibly. However, I think he was saying that the average man has a harder life than the average woman, due to those reasons.
/r/MensRights01/02/23 07:59 PM
13

He said ‘the average man’ not him specifically…
/r/MensRights01/02/23 07:55 PM
6

Inb4 ‘which gender commits those rapes?’ Or some other feminist reason…
/r/MensRights01/02/23 07:54 PM
2

Not logically correct, the feelings could align with the empirical evidence!
/r/MensRights01/02/23 07:53 PM
1

In the west I would have to say men, due to the fact that society is pro women and almost anti men. For instance, there are many schemes, scholarships, government policies etc that are for women, but practically none for men. However, I don’t think it’s helpful to discuss who has it worse. It’s better to say ‘A and B both have problems and we need to work together to improve their circumstances’.
/r/MensRights01/02/23 07:52 PM
3

Good bot.
/r/MensRights01/02/23 11:13 AM
14

Husband dead, wife most affected?
/r/MensRights01/02/23 11:12 AM
4

It is good advice, but harder to do in practice I guess.
/r/MensRights30/01/23 10:48 PM
1

Indeed, so time to get rid of those quotas and schemes!
/r/MensRights28/01/23 05:21 PM
77

HR isn’t going to tell you that you can claim compensation from them, obviously. Speak to a solicitor about options and likelihood of success. Don’t forget, you can claim discrimination as well if you think that is the case.
/r/MensRights25/01/23 04:24 PM
82

It’s always worth complaining or appealing (even though they claim you can’t). Perhaps find a solicitor to help, even if it’s only the initial stages. They can let you know whether you have a chance of compensation etc, worth a go anyway, even if just to annoy them.
/r/MensRights25/01/23 04:16 PM
19

That’s a valid point. Either it affects them or it doesn’t, can’t have both.
/r/MensRights25/01/23 07:20 AM
2

I think that, on principle there isn’t anything wrong with such a law. The issue would be that there isn’t and won’t be any help for men in the same way. As OP mentioned, men die earlier, so a lower retirement age would make sense.
/r/MensRights25/01/23 07:20 AM
-34

Fair enough, if it works, it works.
/r/MensRights25/01/23 07:18 AM
1

It’s not important, it could be anything. The point is that they think the glass ceiling is a problem (for women) and then I can say something as above to spin it as a problem for men instead. That’s what they tend to do with male issues.
/r/MensRights24/01/23 04:15 PM
2

Kind of, they will claim it’s a gender role and affects women, even though the outcome is positive. It’s only done so the male issue can be dismissed though. It would be akin to me saying ‘yeah well the glass ceiling is because men are assumed to be more competent, which is actually a male stereotype and thus it’s all about men!’
/r/MensRights23/01/23 02:35 PM
2

It’s a typical/not surprising reaction. I have encountered it many times when voicing a different opinion to a feminist.
/r/MensRights22/01/23 03:39 AM
9

Government sanctioned, yikes.
/r/MensRights22/01/23 03:26 AM
3

Of course it is. How could it not be, from a man’s point of view?
/r/MensRights21/01/23 08:02 PM
11

I would disagree with the premise that consenting to sex is not consenting to parenthood, because that is a clear consequence of sex. I would agree that if women have the choice to abort, then men should have the choice to opt out as well.
/r/MensRights21/01/23 07:58 PM
14

The question of logic here is, how does one ‘not allow’ someone to approach to them? How would one even know someone was planning to approach them before they actually did so?
/r/MensRights20/01/23 08:43 PM
3

Not justifying really, but used as a reason. For instance, men being discriminated against in family court. This is blamed on ‘the patriarchy’ and because ‘women are seen as more nurturing etc’. It is then quickly reframed into a ‘women’s issue’, rather than the group it actually affects (men). A classic tactic.
/r/MensRights19/01/23 09:54 PM
2

We’ll possibly, but not to them. They will adjust the definition of patriarchy to suit their argument, but rest assured that the patriarchy will always be the reason. That’s the issue with it.
/r/MensRights19/01/23 09:16 PM
0

Not in your opinion (and mine) but it will be in theirs. Then, by definition, we do live in a ‘patriarchy’. You can call them out on it, but that won’t have any affect or use, sadly.
/r/MensRights19/01/23 08:54 PM
2

Your argument is correct, but simultaneously not correct. What they will say is that patriarchy means that the majority of people in power are men, the majority of rich people are men and so on. That would be the typical response/argument.
/r/MensRights19/01/23 08:36 PM
7

Indeed, it’s the reason for everything, supposedly. A convenient excuse.
/r/MensRights19/01/23 05:48 PM
13

It seems to be used for almost every issue that affects women, so you won’t be spoiled for choice! It’s also used to justify any male issues, but with a spin to put the focus back into women. For instance, the patriarchy is used as a reason for: not enough women in STEM, gender pay gap, glass ceiling, rape culture, women’s health problems, sexism at work, and so on.
/r/MensRights19/01/23 04:25 PM
1

This study is interesting https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1418878112 On Women in Stem.
/r/MensRights19/01/23 04:18 PM
5

Absolutely. Male issues are not cared about by society at all. They are dismissed, brushed under the carpet, or deemed ‘not important’ etc.
/r/MensRights18/01/23 07:43 PM
3

Believe everyone even when they contradict each other, that’s the way :D
/r/MensRights18/01/23 07:58 AM
1

But, the Daily Mail is a newspaper, and can be assumed to be more reliable than your opinions, as you have no track record to rely on. Right?
/r/MensRights17/01/23 07:38 PM
1

Certainly higher than your track record at the moment though… Would it be fair to say the same about you?
/r/MensRights17/01/23 07:29 PM
1

It is indeed very small, but it is a unique human life.
/r/MensRights17/01/23 07:27 PM
2

That sounds weirdly like a feminist…!
/r/MensRights17/01/23 07:26 PM
1

Obviously not, because men bad women good, I expect!
/r/MensRights17/01/23 05:43 PM
1

How does the man have the ‘easiest part’ of the job?
/r/MensRights17/01/23 05:43 PM
1

Parasite?
/r/MensRights17/01/23 05:40 PM
1

Darn it, you got us!
/r/MensRights17/01/23 05:39 PM
1

It is a human life though, what do you think about that?
/r/MensRights17/01/23 05:39 PM
3

There are various ‘reasons’, but they essentially boil down to the good old slogan ‘my body my choice’. For men, the common response is that they should have ‘kept it in their pants’. That doesn’t seem to apply to women somehow…
/r/MensRights17/01/23 05:38 PM
0

Not the way ideally, but possibly the only way practically!
/r/MensRights17/01/23 12:26 AM
0

INB4 feminism ‘debunks’ this.
/r/MensRights17/01/23 12:25 AM
7

In other words, you agree that this particular story is true or likely to be true.
/r/MensRights17/01/23 12:24 AM
5

It’s also not generalising to say that a random Redditor is less reliable than a newspaper. Why should we listen to you over the Daily Mail?
/r/MensRights17/01/23 12:22 AM
9

Probably infrequent in the grand scheme of things, but still significant.
/r/MensRights17/01/23 12:20 AM
2

The old uno reverse!
/r/MensRights16/01/23 07:52 PM
1

I see. It would be interesting to see if you can find it.
/r/MensRights16/01/23 05:19 PM
3

Of course, you could use a condom if you are that worried about being trapped…?
/r/MensRights15/01/23 10:51 PM
11

It’s okay :)
/r/MensRights15/01/23 10:44 PM
18

Yeah I think you’ve missed the sarcasm here…
/r/MensRights15/01/23 09:36 PM
72

Akin to ‘did you see what she was wearing?’ I mean, I mean, he shouldn’t have jogged behind her if he wasn’t asking to get sprayed, right? Right…?
/r/MensRights15/01/23 08:52 PM
1

It seems to be a quite a common argument though, followed by a tirade of ‘men don’t care about their kids etc’. Do you have a link to the study and criticism of it?
/r/MensRights15/01/23 11:28 AM
9

Not so common if you talk to feminists! The latest reason I’ve been hearing is ‘men don’t ask for custody of their kids, so that’s why they don’t get custody as often’. Followed by studies showing that men get custody when they DO ask. I’m not actually sure how to respond to the above, I have been researching but can’t find much info.
/r/MensRights15/01/23 02:38 AM
1

Ah but you do have to work to live (unfortunately) but you don’t have to cook for someone else!
/r/MensRights14/01/23 10:38 PM
3

The one about housework really gets me. That’s all optional. You don’t have to cook dinner for someone or wash their clothes. Just don’t do it. They’ll have to wash their own clothes eventually even if they are super lazy. Of course, abusive relationships are different, but that’s not every relationship!
/r/MensRights14/01/23 06:14 PM
11

Society treats them as inherently true a lot of the time. Even though it doesn’t result in a conviction. No smoke without fire and that sort of thing, but even more severe because women are affected.
/r/MensRights14/01/23 02:29 PM
0

It can be quite fun sometimes!
/r/MensRights14/01/23 08:44 AM
6

That’s very interesting, so you have some further information and sources about point 2? :)
/r/MensRights14/01/23 08:42 AM
42

True, although I would say that women seem to be more supportive in general. So if a woman says ‘I’m getting fat’ others will be like ‘no honey you’re gorgeous’. Even if they don’t mean it.
/r/MensRights12/01/23 04:52 PM
2

Doomer phase?
/r/MensRights12/01/23 04:15 PM
1

Indeed, these words are very recent and new. I wouldn’t necessarily say we shouldn’t use them, you can hardly discuss the issues with them if you don’t use them in some way. I do see your point though. What words would you use instead for the examples you gave?
/r/MensRights12/01/23 04:15 PM
2

Plenty. You can Google a few if you wish, I recently checked Imperial College (London) and they have a few for women, can’t find any for men. They don’t define women, but I expect it means ‘anyone not identifying as male’. They aren’t run by the government directly but I think they might receive some funding from them??? Not completely sure. Tampon commercials have been around for a long time. I was more talking about the advertising and awareness of women’s issues exclusively (no men’s issues).…
/r/MensRights11/01/23 11:26 PM
1

Ah account is acc, silly me lol
/r/MensRights11/01/23 11:14 PM
1

I see, I don’t know much about Scandinavia. In the UK, there are scholarships for women (typically given out by universities). There are programmes and events for women (often at universities but not exclusively). E.g Women in STEM etc. Schoolchildren are educated about women’s issues and ‘misogyny’. There are advertisements addressing women’s issues (you can see these in public daily). There are almost no such things for men.
/r/MensRights11/01/23 11:08 PM
1

I’m afraid I do not understand what you mean.
/r/MensRights11/01/23 11:01 PM
1

I see, interesting. In the UK we have many women specific schemes, policies, advertisements etc. I expect the same in the US and Europe.
/r/MensRights11/01/23 10:51 PM
6

Very sorry to hear about your difficulties with this situation, we are all here if you need someone to speak to. I would comment on your story, but really this has made me realise something. We really need to have some proper studies into this kind of domestic violence/abuse committed against men. It’s not violent per se, which is probably why there haven’t been many studies on it, but I suspect it’s extremely common and underreported.
/r/MensRights11/01/23 10:50 PM
3

Nooo, you’ve got me, drat :( I concede defeat.
/r/MensRights11/01/23 10:28 PM
5

How do ‘men’ hold more power?
/r/MensRights11/01/23 10:24 PM
2

I would expect most western countries, especially those where feminism is very prevalent, but if you want to narrow it down, I live in the UK.
/r/MensRights11/01/23 10:23 PM
1

He means that there are many women specific shelters, schemes, programmes, advertisements, policies etc, but almost none for men (a few yes, but pales in comparison).
/r/MensRights11/01/23 10:21 PM
3

How is that not equal? How would a different split be more equal? What would it change?
/r/MensRights11/01/23 10:20 PM
1

Unfortunately your second statement is incorrect, as a father could well have only one child. Your first statement is always true though.
/r/MensRights11/01/23 10:18 PM
12

In my view, teachers should not influence pupils towards or support any particular political view, especially regarding controversial issues such as this. They should provide both sides of the argument etc, and assist pupils in reaching their own conclusions.
/r/MensRights11/01/23 10:16 PM
6

Why could it not be equal?
/r/MensRights11/01/23 10:09 PM
-2

Would that include Hans Münch (your third paragraph)?
/r/MensRights11/01/23 10:08 PM
7

This is interesting actually. I wonder if its critical thinking, or a victim mentality that is the issue. Or a combination of both.
/r/MensRights11/01/23 10:05 PM
11

But men are in charge you see, most politicians are male. Haven’t you heard about all those horrible oppressive laws they are passing against women, and those privileges they are awarding to men? No? Hmmmmmm….
/r/MensRights11/01/23 10:04 PM
17

The patriarchy, the great, impenetrable argument/defence. Women facing discrimination? PATRIARCHY (and hence oppression). Men facing discrimination? PATRIARCHY (and so women still oppressed). I don’t know how to answer your question or argument? PATRIARCHY!
/r/MensRights11/01/23 10:02 PM
2

Gotta boost that conviction rate somehow, right…?
/r/MensRights11/01/23 04:34 PM
5

Another one to add: Discrimination against men is viewed as ‘positive action’, while discrimination against women is viewed as oppression/misogyny.
/r/MensRights11/01/23 11:15 AM
98

The only thing I can suggest is to appeal this as much as possible. Appeal the appeal, if such a thing is possible. File a complaint about the judge for allowing perjury etc.
/r/MensRights11/01/23 07:56 AM
3

No, no it wasn’t.
/r/MensRights10/01/23 07:28 PM
-1

Are you a medical sexism specialist to be able to tell when medicine is sexist?
/r/MensRights10/01/23 07:26 PM
0

Funding should get funding?
/r/MensRights10/01/23 07:24 PM
2

It hasn’t…
/r/MensRights10/01/23 07:23 PM
3

Source?
/r/MensRights10/01/23 07:22 PM
1

Source?
/r/MensRights10/01/23 07:22 PM
-4

Source?
/r/MensRights10/01/23 07:22 PM
3

But you see, women attempt suicide more, just men use more violent methods. Women most affected?
/r/MensRights10/01/23 07:18 PM
30

It’s difficult to say. I wouldn’t be surprised if new rape or sexual assault laws were introduced to lower the proof requirements, so you could see more innocent people being jailed for that. We might see more campaigns and support for women, scholarships, schemes, gender quotas etc. I’ve recently noticed advertisements on trains in the UK that say ‘end men’s violence against women and girls’. You’ll probably see more of that sort of thing. I don’t expect anything too extreme, just a gradual rei…
/r/MensRights09/01/23 10:48 PM
1

believeallwomen?
/r/MensRights09/01/23 07:05 PM
1

I wonder what kind of prizes you can cash them in for?
/r/MensRights09/01/23 04:23 PM
44

I hereby award you 1000 victimhood points, don’t spend them all at once.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 10:11 PM
9

This doesn’t surprise me that much, although it is interesting to see that men are disadvantaged in other countries aside from UK and US, especially Turkey as it is closer to Asia and the Middle East, Africa etc.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 07:06 PM
1

Very true, and that is a big problem. Men’s issues being dismissed and reframed as women’s issues etc.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 06:58 PM
1

Truthfully though, it is a neat abbreviation, but not very clear to people reading it who don’t know about that.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 06:03 PM
4

I will certainly do so in the future. /s
/r/MensRights08/01/23 05:59 PM
2

That sounds like a great idea! /s
/r/MensRights08/01/23 05:58 PM
4

Perhaps so. I’ll include a disclaimer clarifying whether my comment is satire or not, in the future. *The above text is intended as satire and not to be taken seriously.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 05:51 PM
11

Obviously, it was satire. 3 downvotes though, perhaps they took it literally?
/r/MensRights08/01/23 05:48 PM
-18

Frustration at the patriarchy perhaps?
/r/MensRights08/01/23 05:17 PM
3

Well no, but I don’t think it is likely to go down well in such a situation. Asking a woman to sign some sort of ‘agreement’ probably isn’t going to make her particularly enthusiastic.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 02:04 PM
1

Unfortunately I don’t think that idea is going to work very well in these romantic encounters, talk about a mood-killer! Sadly there isn’t really a way to protect yourself and have fun at the same time.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 02:02 PM
3

The real question is, would this apply equally to a female who was larger than the male? Of course, they haven’t defined ‘size’ clearly, so we have no idea.
/r/MensRights06/01/23 09:06 PM
5

When they say ‘size’, what do they mean? Overall volume? Height? Weight? Width? Logically speaking, surely the only consideration should be if the force was proportional to the threat used and reasonable to do so. The other factors don’t matter at all unless the force was not proportional or was unreasonable.
/r/MensRights06/01/23 09:05 PM
4

Ironically, it’s not actually a bad idea. With gender fluidity, one can be female and thus gain custody, and later on be male. The tables have turned…
/r/MensRights06/01/23 09:02 PM
3

Plenty to choose from. What kind of source would you like? You can Google yourself if you prefer, although you will likely find less research into men’s issues than women’s issues.
/r/MensRights06/01/23 06:53 PM
10

If you can’t beat em, join em!
/r/MensRights06/01/23 12:20 PM
1

Male privilege in action!
/r/MensRights06/01/23 12:19 PM
5

It’s easy. Just look at Cambridge Dictionaries and their fantastic new definition. Someone who lives as and identifies as female. Genius.
/r/MensRights05/01/23 09:17 PM
12

But of course, nothing, or very little, will be done to help men in areas where they are disadvantaged… That’s the problem. Just look at the UK. Boys underperform girls in education (quite badly) yet there are no schemes or privileges for them. Girls not taking up maths and science though? Schemes and encouragement galore.
/r/MensRights05/01/23 10:53 AM
25

This is rather obvious, unfortunately. Just look at the number of schemes, scholarships, societies/clubs, and events for women (or ‘non-binary’)…
/r/MensRights05/01/23 01:49 AM
16

There have been some interesting studies showing that women initiate domestic violence most of the time. Food for thought.
/r/MensRights02/01/23 07:05 AM
1

Can we fact check the FACT CHECKS?
/r/MensRights02/01/23 06:58 AM
19

As a fun experiment, once you have collated your information, consider posting it in a feminist subreddit, and see what the responses are!
/r/MensRights01/01/23 02:48 PM
16

But but it’s a FACT CHECK, it must be right…
/r/MensRights01/01/23 08:46 AM
13

True, I’m just more concerned about the gender ideology, although both are problems.
/r/MensRights01/01/23 01:02 AM
2

What? How have you come to that conclusion? I don’t agree with all of his opinions, but I still believe innocent until proven guilty.
/r/MensRights01/01/23 12:48 AM
7

Oh yes, I’m sure you do, I probably agree with many of your concerns. The more concerning issue is that you would be labelled as ‘transphobic’ purely because you have concerns or disagree with things.
/r/MensRights01/01/23 12:48 AM
0

Agreed yes, I firmly believe in innocent until proven guilty.
/r/MensRights01/01/23 12:45 AM
-1

True, but it will be interesting to see how the case develops. I don’t class him as guilty at the moment, because he hasn’t been tried and convicted. But he may well be guilty of crimes. I don’t think the Romanian police would arrest him just for fun, but I equally don’t think he is automatically guilty.
/r/MensRights01/01/23 12:44 AM
-2

It’s probably best to hold fire on Andrew until the police case is decided.
/r/MensRights01/01/23 12:35 AM
2

Mental health issues seem to be rife anyway, I’m not sure this will result in a perceived increase, even if it does actually result in one.
/r/MensRights01/01/23 12:24 AM
20

Circumcision is a separate issue, this is far worse.
/r/MensRights01/01/23 12:23 AM
9

I think it’s rather different but I can see the similarity in that it was considered acceptable.
/r/MensRights01/01/23 12:22 AM
7

Tragic that the courts even entertain this madness.
/r/MensRights01/01/23 12:21 AM
36

Unfortunately by disagreeing with any aspect of this, you are classed as transphobic. In particular because you have a ‘negative attitude’ towards it. Wikipedia mentions this. The definition seems to vary quite a bit, but essentially it boils down to ‘you disagree with it or have concerns about it’.
/r/MensRights01/01/23 12:19 AM
32

How have we reached this point? How do the courts not realise that this is absolute madness?
/r/MensRights01/01/23 12:14 AM
2

Exactly!
/r/MensRights01/01/23 12:12 AM
7

Yes it does seem a bit extreme.
/r/MensRights31/12/22 10:50 PM
5

I’d argue that women have it better than men in the Western world, although not quite as extreme as OP said.
/r/MensRights31/12/22 10:49 PM
4

It’s just feminism in general. Women’s issues are more important than men’s issues (supposedly). This is ‘justified’ by all manner of logical leaps and reasons.
/r/MensRights31/12/22 10:43 PM
3

Oh yeah of course, we support equality for all, just women in particular…
/r/MensRights31/12/22 10:40 PM
2

Misogynist is just a buzzword these days, unfortunately.
/r/MensRights31/12/22 10:38 PM
1

What sub is this?
/r/MensRights31/12/22 10:38 PM
2

Nothing useful of course, merely amusing nuggets.
/r/MensRights31/12/22 10:33 PM
1

And of course, as we all know, rape is very difficult to prove, so there must be numerous female rapists out there as well!
/r/MensRights31/12/22 10:32 PM
1

Other rules of interest include ‘no transphobia’ and ‘no body shaming’. The former essentially means disagreeing with gender identity or anything related to that (not even being rude or discriminatory, merely disagreeing). The latter is interesting, I wonder if it would be apply to ‘small dick energy’?
/r/MensRights31/12/22 10:31 PM
17

They even admit it isn’t in their own rules ‘this is not a space for male questions’.
/r/MensRights31/12/22 03:54 PM
15

Hmm, I’d not heard of that subreddit before, time to see what wonderful nuggets of information I can find!
/r/MensRights31/12/22 03:45 PM
1

I mean, they don’t really make much sense…
/r/MensRights31/12/22 10:46 AM
2

Still seems a bit weird to me…
/r/MensRights31/12/22 12:57 AM
8

It literally says ‘through humour and magic’. Magic???
/r/MensRights31/12/22 12:30 AM
3

What?
/r/MensRights31/12/22 12:30 AM
3

I find that subreddit just posts snippets like ‘not how sex works’ or whatever, and show a screenshot of some dude saying something silly. Sometimes it’s justified, other times it isn’t and doesn’t make sense. There seems to be a strong anti-male sentiment from it, but I don’t think that’s its primary purpose.
/r/MensRights31/12/22 12:29 AM
4

Incel can be valid in some cases but seems to be often used as an insult for when you have a different opinion.
/r/MensRights31/12/22 12:25 AM
1

But of course, feminist subreddits don’t label themselves as ‘pro-men’ or anything, as you would expect!
/r/MensRights31/12/22 12:25 AM
14

Even without man-hating, it’s just weird… A witchy twist? Magic? What on earth are they talking about?
/r/MensRights31/12/22 12:24 AM
0

Sure.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 11:17 PM
1

Right… Whatever that means.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 09:44 PM
2

Well actually, your insult would be more appropriate than Greta’s, as it isn’t gender specific. But I would agree that it is still rude and not a nice thing to say, just not as bad as a gender specific insult.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 09:40 PM
5

Of course you can. Because of the patriarchy, we must focus on women to compensate for their oppression. Sorted. Feminism wins again!
/r/MensRights30/12/22 09:25 PM
4

Exactly, no one is defending Andrew, merely pointing out the sexist language used by Greta.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 09:18 PM
28

All in the name of gender ‘equality’.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 09:14 PM
3

Exactly, I agree. The point is that if it disadvantages men, then it doesn’t count (for whatever reason, patriarchy, misinformation, whatever). If it disadvantages women, then omg so sexist, we must do something about this.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 07:15 PM
1

You say that, plenty of others have already come to their own conclusion!
/r/MensRights30/12/22 07:05 PM
3

Because it’s against men, that’s why. It also doesn’t help that the man in question has been arrested, but still…
/r/MensRights30/12/22 05:48 PM
9

Would it be acceptable to say ‘nigga energy’ and then claim it’s about the energy or behaviour, not about the race? I don’t think so…
/r/MensRights30/12/22 05:47 PM
2

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if that professor was in fact cancelled, fired, or made to apologise etc.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 05:09 PM
-1

Perhaps yes, but it seems that would better done on the job as training (under the supervision of someone more qualified). The exam is presumably to test knowledge and application of it, not to test how long you can endure pressure or whatever.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 04:58 PM
2

That’s exactly what the person I discussed it with suggested!
/r/MensRights30/12/22 04:56 PM
2

I would agree depending on how you define the phrase. I’m saying that it’s a gendered insult and thus not appropriate, unless you think that sort of thing is acceptable?
/r/MensRights30/12/22 04:56 PM
2

Exactly, but this typically applies to all issues that men face. When you raise an issue affecting men, it doesn’t count, for some reason.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 04:54 PM
-1

True, but an 8 hour exam? Why? Why not hold it over two days or something?
/r/MensRights30/12/22 01:56 PM
2

Infuriating to who? Me? What do you mean?
/r/MensRights30/12/22 01:55 PM
1

Yes, it is very interesting. The only plausible explanation that I can think of, is that by pure coincidence, they only decided to try and arrest him shortly before the video was posted, and that then provided the proof of being in the country. It does seem rather daft though. Why not just send an undercover officer to check the address and see if it is being used or not.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 01:49 PM
4

The timing is interesting, although he was arrested before so could just be a coincidence. What concerns me is why they needed proof he was in the country to perform the raid. Regardless, if they did need proof, wouldn’t a search of arriving and departing flight records been sufficient?
/r/MensRights30/12/22 07:07 AM
6

If you traffic women you are a bad/evil person, small dick energy is clearly a gendered insult and thus not good for gender equality.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 07:06 AM
78

Of course, because not being able to pass the exam must mean some sort of bias against women. Interestingly, I raised a similar concern with feminists before, about the fact that boys do worse in school and so the education system is biased against boys. The response was that maybe girls are smarter than boys… Yet here, they immediately jump to ‘bias against women’. Looking at the details of the exam itself, it does seem rather excessive, it is 8 hours apparently!
/r/MensRights30/12/22 06:45 AM
1

That’s interesting to hear. It would be good to ask more people than just him. You’d probably also want to find out if those people are feminists or not, as that could be a factor.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 06:26 AM
1

That’s okay, you can just ask the people that you do know. It would actually be interesting to hear their responses! Plausible yes, but unlikely I think.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 05:40 AM
39

Not surprising at all, there are already many schemes and the like for women and not men.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 05:36 AM
3

Googling ‘bossy is sexist’ will bring up a number of result, but I still think my suggestion of asking people is better to get direct answers from real people. I have met several ‘feminists’ throughout my life, I’m surprised that you haven’t.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 05:33 AM
4

You can give it a try if you like. Ask other people (perhaps both men and women to get both views) if they think the word is sexist. Of course, I might be wrong about that specific word, but I’m sure there are other examples.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 05:28 AM
8

I think you may find that feminists would disagree here with you, which was exactly my point.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 05:16 AM
13

Supposedly yes, not sure how that’s relevant to Greta’s insult. Will be interesting to see how the case develops.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 11:25 PM
7

Oh I agree, I’m not ‘defending’ Andrew if that’s what you mean, it wasn’t very polite or nice of him. I’m pointing out that Greta chose to insult him based specifically on his gender.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 11:23 PM
25

Apparently so, probably would have been better to mention that rather than ‘small dick energy’!
/r/MensRights29/12/22 11:10 PM
7

Well, the title refers to misandry being applauded, so it does seem to be about men’s rights…? There is no description granted, but the title is fairly self-explanatory.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 11:01 PM
26

The patriarchy of course, what did you expect?
/r/MensRights29/12/22 10:45 PM
27

I know right, just like calling a woman ‘bossy’ isn’t sexist, it’s not about the gender, it’s about the ‘energy’. Right? Right…? Agreed.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 10:40 PM
0

True, but the feminist movement was directly responsible for women gaining the right to vote. You can say what you like about history, and I’m sure there were many factors influencing society, but you could say that about almost everything. Heck, I don’t even support feminism, and I still acknowledge that. Perhaps you could elaborate your point in a different way? Are you saying feminism did not campaign for women to be able to vote and was successful doing so?
/r/MensRights29/12/22 09:20 PM
-3

Quite a big thing to miss, but fair enough. I don’t agree with feminism really or think it is a good movement, but you would have to acknowledge that they did make things more equal in that sense.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 07:51 PM
2

They don’t? Why?
/r/MensRights29/12/22 07:49 PM
175

The interesting thing, is that while Andrew chose to make fun of Greta for her views and opinions, Greta chose to make fun of Andrew because of something specifically related to his gender.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 07:48 PM
-4

Well the movement did get the right to vote for women…
/r/MensRights29/12/22 07:47 PM
16

I suppose helping women get the right to vote, assuming you believe democracy is the best way.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 07:16 PM
1

But that is still irrelevant when it comes to being ‘privileged’. The rich are more privileged than the poor, yet the rich are the minority. I’m not sure what your point is. Are you arguing that the usage of the word is incorrect, or something else?
/r/MensRights29/12/22 05:50 PM
1

I agree that the new definition is not good, and should not have been edited as such. But that is currently the new definition. If somebody wants to look up the word ‘woman’ that will be the corresponding definition, in Cambridge dictionary at least.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 12:31 PM
1

What wonderful nuggets of information will I find?
/r/MensRights29/12/22 09:28 AM
1

Yes true, the usage of the word would be incorrect, but I think people really mean ‘marginalised’ as you suggest!
/r/MensRights29/12/22 09:28 AM
1

Agreed, very interesting. What’s also interesting is that gender differences increase as countries become more ‘equal’!
/r/MensRights29/12/22 04:54 AM
1

I agree somewhat, it may be the best of a bad bunch. However, I strongly suspect that men still face numerous issues, more so than women, in those countries.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 04:53 AM
1

It’s a good idea in theory but not good in practice because of issues like the one you raised.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 04:51 AM
3

You lost me at ‘cisheteropatriarchal’!
/r/MensRights29/12/22 04:50 AM
1

Well, I could see a majority group being oppressed or disadvantaged, although that would be tricky in a democracy where they can vote. But still, it’s not infeasible that a majority group could be oppressed.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 04:48 AM
3

Some important snippets are here: Intimate partner violence against men is a ‘controversial’ area of research. The lines of the debate tend to fall between two basic polemics. The first of these argues that scholars who focus on female-perpetrated violence are part of an anti-feminist backlash and are attempting to undermine the problem of male-perpetrated abuse by ‘championing the cause of the man’, over the serious cause of the abused ‘woman’. And that, for me, is the biggest issue facing men.…
/r/MensRights29/12/22 04:45 AM
6

For some reason it strikes me as funny that the first title is ‘Google on Men’s day’ but the second title is ‘Goole on Women’s Day’.
/r/MensRights28/12/22 10:17 PM
17

Essentially, he’s a man, she’s a woman. That’s why he’s getting the unfair treatment as you put it, sadly.
/r/MensRights28/12/22 09:31 PM
-6

They are different if you look at the updated Cambridge dictionaries definitions of ‘gender’. Take a look and tell me what you think! Not sure why I’ve been downvoted by five people, I don’t even agree with the new definition.
/r/MensRights28/12/22 06:53 PM
-2

They are different if you look at the updated Cambridge dictionaries definitions of ‘gender’. Take a look and tell me what you think!
/r/MensRights28/12/22 06:53 PM
3

Unfortunately, you have just been fired for not conforming to the narrative. Good luck fighting it while unemployed! Note: The above words illustrate how dangerous the ‘narrative’ is.
/r/MensRights28/12/22 06:50 PM
4

Indeed. The thing is, he must have really loved his wife, to stay with her and forgive her despite her ruining is life.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 05:23 PM
1

Of course you got banned. You will get banned for anything that could possibly be construed as against women (or many other things/concepts). That’s just a reality. It might be wrong, but that’s what will happen.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 11:34 AM
2

Said ‘Pregnant folks’ but also ‘women’. Confuses me…
/r/MensRights27/12/22 11:16 AM
0

This is sensible advice, but you do also need to be aware that if you don’t raise something at the time, then that could pose a problem later on.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 10:31 AM
1

Well, to be fair, I don’t think there has been much research into that claim, but I’d be inclined to expect it to be true.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 10:28 AM
2

The pay gap is nonsensical. You can find a pay gap in many fields if you analyse various factors. A pay gap in and of itself is not bad. If it so happens that the gap is largely due to discrimination, then that would be bad. But perhaps, it’s because of the ‘patriarchy’?
/r/MensRights27/12/22 10:27 AM
3

Ironically, the world would be ‘free’ from discrimination, because there would be no one left to discriminate against (men)!
/r/MensRights27/12/22 10:18 AM
5

Makes you wonder how many people right now are in prison, while being completely innocent.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 07:25 AM
141

If only he had cashed in some male privilege, then everything would have been fine… Poor chap though, I cannot imagine being put through that.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 07:17 AM
44

I would rather we try and avoid being like other subreddits who ban people for disagreeing or voicing opinions that are controversial or don’t fit in with narrative. I agree that it can be frustrating when someone is clearly being illogical, but free speech is a really important thing.
/r/MensRights26/12/22 06:27 PM
10

When you say that you don’t think it is acceptable, do you mean ‘it’s wrong and we shouldn’t do it’ or do you mean ‘people don’t consider it acceptable?’. I meant the latter, or rather ‘people think it is acceptable’ if that helps.
/r/MensRights26/12/22 09:52 AM
14

I’d argue it’s more acceptable than making fun of women’s hardships.
/r/MensRights26/12/22 09:46 AM
3

Interesting, and not surprising.
/r/MensRights26/12/22 09:42 AM
8

Trying to make it sound perfectly fine and a good thing to do.
/r/MensRights26/12/22 09:40 AM
10

You could try and claim the same thing about STEM. There are more men in STEM because they are naturally better, or more hard-working or whatever (not that I agree, just an example of what you could say). Somehow I don’t think that would be allowed though…
/r/MensRights25/12/22 01:49 PM
16

Well, prejudice against men is kind of accepted in society. Even by other men sometimes! Perhaps the equivalent of ‘internalised misogyny’? It is rather ironic, that men are almost the only group that it is considered acceptable to have some prejudice or hate towards.
/r/MensRights25/12/22 09:56 AM
9

I have had a look at these, and none that I have read so far seem to be exclusively for men… Perhaps I am wrong though, I might have misread it. Are there scholarships exclusively for men? Edit: I have read further and observe that there appear to be two scholarships offered to men. I also have no doubt that these would be changed if someone claimed it was sexist towards women. Further edit: Upon further searching, I can only find meaningful information about ONE of these scholarships. If someon…
/r/MensRights24/12/22 05:35 AM
15

Of course they did, and quite rightfully so, that would be discrimination. And I’m certain you would be listened to if you protested about scholarships for women. Right? Right…?
/r/MensRights24/12/22 04:58 AM
3

Somehow I don’t think so, I’m not convinced that’s why people ‘identify’ as transgender.
/r/MensRights24/12/22 04:55 AM
1

Well, transgender is a different issue altogether!
/r/MensRights24/12/22 12:03 AM
3

Indeed yes, it’s an axiom and cop out. Women are automatically oppressed because of patriarchy. End of. No ifs no buts. Women are oppressed. Goodbye and farewell.
/r/MensRights24/12/22 12:03 AM
1

What, we’re being oppressed? The richatriachy is oppressing us?
/r/MensRights24/12/22 12:02 AM
23

You silly billy, it’s because women are oppressed, they need those rules to help them overcome the oppression. Obviously. Definitely.
/r/MensRights24/12/22 12:01 AM
1

You’ll probably find that misandry is reluctantly acknowledged to be real, but supposedly nowhere near as significant as misogyny. That’s a typical argument.
/r/MensRights23/12/22 09:05 PM
5

A very valid point and argument, but of course dismissed by society.
/r/MensRights23/12/22 08:50 PM
57

Just hearing the phrase ‘white male privilege’ tells you all you need to know about the person saying it.
/r/MensRights23/12/22 08:26 PM
10

Cue justification from feminists.
/r/MensRights23/12/22 08:25 PM
91

And of course, nothing will be done about it. Any nursing scholarships for men? Teaching scholarships? No? Any government schemes or support? Ah drat, nothing sadly. Schemes for women? WE GOT PLENTY!
/r/MensRights23/12/22 05:42 PM
30

Hey, the other workers are getting a bit intimidated by you. stares at him until he apologises. Oh darn sorry, you’ve intimidated me into apologising!
/r/MensRights23/12/22 03:53 PM
4

Well, in my experience you can disagree with them to a certain extent, but you will be banned eventually. I was banned for ‘behaving in the most aggravating manner’ whatever that means.
/r/MensRights23/12/22 12:51 PM
7

What really needs to be done, is to achieve a movement/organisation that is internationally recognised, supported, and funded. Just like feminism. Only then can we achieve true support for male rights. This will be very hard to do, however.
/r/MensRights23/12/22 12:50 PM
16

Now, for funsies, go post your studies and evidence in a feminist subreddit, and see what happens :D
/r/MensRights23/12/22 07:11 AM
2

I admire the logical leaps and spurious reasoning they sometimes use, it really is amazing!
/r/MensRights23/12/22 06:57 AM
2

It’s a difficult situation. I think it reasonably unlikely that she would falsely accuse you just because of breaking up (unless that was what she did with the other person you mentioned?) There isn’t a huge amount you can do to protect yourself. It might be sensible to ensure you have clear records and dates of conversations and meetings. At the very least, you’ll then be able to provide an accurate account if it comes to court. Other than that, the best thing to do is bite the bullet and end i…
/r/MensRights22/12/22 11:42 PM
2

Their views would not matter much when it comes to the meaning of words, but I see what you mean. I also don’t feel that people (such as yourself) would be consistent with the word. Will you be referring to robbery victims as robbery survivors? Fraud victims? As I said, strictly speaking the word is not incorrect, just feels odd and not the best choice. It certainly isn’t used consistently as I explained above. Your other point about people’s views and feelings dictating the language that we mus…
/r/MensRights22/12/22 10:59 PM
2

There we go then, you’ve already admitted that words can be used incorrectly, just like ‘survivor’! It might be interpretation yes, are you saying that’s less valid than yours? Not really no. Domestic abuse is a crime. Plenty of other crimes are more life threatening. Regardless of whether psychological damage is just as important, that still doesn’t mean ‘survive’ is the best word.
/r/MensRights22/12/22 07:04 PM
2

Domestic abuse is more life-like than robbery? Is that what you meant? Indeed, but you can’t conclude it no longer reflects societies views just to suit your argument or your belief. I am part of society, I disagree with the meaning of that word. So would many other people. It’s inaccurate in the sense that the word doesn’t seem quite right. You could technically say that someone survived their trip to the shops. That would not be wrong per se, but probably isn’t the word that you would choose t…
/r/MensRights22/12/22 06:06 PM
32

Consent is mandatory, but seems to be different for women than for men…
/r/MensRights22/12/22 04:53 PM
2

Escalating the situation from my (very likely to occur) situation to your own (also likely to occur situation). Calling mine hypothetical but yours ‘life-like’ is not correct, unless you also agree that my situation is life-like (and possibly hypothetical). No, but we do understand what they mean… Accuracy doesn’t mean the word has to mean precisely one thing at each instance. Also, you don’t need to leverage’ emotional value, whatever the heck that is. The words mean what they mean. I’m sure yo…
/r/MensRights22/12/22 04:44 PM
3

What? Multiple incidents don’t correlate to survival. I could be robbed every day, and then I’d be a victim of multiple robberies. Just because someone cannot easily leave a situation, does not make the word ‘survive’ accurate. You could call yourself a survivor if you want, but I wouldn’t agree it’s the best word to use. Technically if you remain alive after an incident then you have ‘survived’ the incident, but you wouldn’t use that word to describe it. Your last comment is concerning. We don’…
/r/MensRights22/12/22 04:10 PM
2

I don’t think so. I could be a victim of a robbery. You could be the victim of fraud. We could both be victims of mugging. The fictional person you described is a victim. What’s wrong with that? The word ‘survive’ just doesn’t feel accurate. It might be appropriate in some cases, for instance ‘the person survived the violent assault by their partner’. Let me put it another way. If someone breaks your little finger, and you (obviously) live, are you a victim of assault, or are you a survivor of a…
/r/MensRights22/12/22 03:22 PM
4

It’s just a way of discounting the issue, as they often do with any male issue that is raised. Aside from often not making sense, it’s also not a particular pleasant thing to do. Not much point discussing how to improve gender equality if they are just going to shoot down any issues you are concerned about!
/r/MensRights22/12/22 08:15 AM
5

You can technically say survivor, much in the same way one could say they ‘survived’ a robbery (where there was no threat to life, merely the money). I wouldn’t say it is the most accurate word though.
/r/MensRights22/12/22 06:46 AM
8

You dare use my own spells against me, Potter?
/r/MensRights21/12/22 10:10 PM
3

You could claim all sorts of things yes. It is still a live though. We could argue whether that justifies a miscarriage being manslaughter and having a legal punishment for that (I would say no), or whether you can class the fetus as a dependent etc. It is still a life though.
/r/MensRights20/12/22 11:50 PM
10

I get a notice warning/advising me about domestic violence when I search for ‘why does my husband shout at me’ but not when I switch the gender!
/r/MensRights20/12/22 11:16 PM
-3

I think everyone needs to be honest and face up to the fact that abortion is killing a human life. That doesn’t necessarily mean it is illegal (for instance, it could be moral and legal to kill someone in self defense), but it is killing a life.
/r/MensRights20/12/22 06:00 PM
1

Sure…
/r/MensRights19/12/22 09:47 PM
1

Men should be allowed to compete against women?
/r/MensRights19/12/22 08:56 PM
3

What?
/r/MensRights19/12/22 06:13 PM
2

I agree to an extent, although they are still a type of feminist. For instance, you can believe that women are oppressed and also disagree with transgender ideology.
/r/MensRights19/12/22 06:12 PM
15

Staring persistently, perhaps? :D
/r/MensRights19/12/22 05:38 PM
1

Well for one, how could women have a responsibility to avoid triggering a response which will vary heavily between each man? Many, many years ago, showing your ankles would have been considered naughty… What lengths should they go to avoid triggering this response?
/r/MensRights18/12/22 09:01 PM
2

Your problem here, is that men are perceived as bad, so you are on the back foot immediately. I don’t particularly agree with your comments, but I can see the logic used, but that will be irrelevant obviously.
/r/MensRights18/12/22 08:36 PM
2

No you silly billy, WOMEN are the most impacted!
/r/MensRights18/12/22 07:06 PM
1

Almost true. They LOVE statistics and studies, but only when it supports their view. Other statistics and studies are bad as not to be trusted.
/r/MensRights18/12/22 07:05 PM
5

It is rather obvious. Feminists (usually) only care about women and women’s issues. The movement claims to be for equality for all, but it is obviously not so in practice. They are only concerned with improving women’s lives, even at the expense of males. The ideal scenario would be a movement that addresses both men’s and women’s issues, but sadly that is unlikely to ever happen.
/r/MensRights18/12/22 07:03 PM
2

But, to protect WOMEN!
/r/MensRights16/12/22 07:44 PM
13

But but, the conviction rate is low because so many rapists get away with it, we need to lower the standards for conviction so we can convict more people! or some such silly argument.
/r/MensRights16/12/22 11:09 AM
-12

I’m not so sure that’s true today, given that two incomes are needed to properly live.
/r/MensRights16/12/22 01:09 AM
5

It’s the blasted patriarchy you see, always there, always existing, always providing a convenient argument for things.
/r/MensRights16/12/22 01:09 AM
3

Is it hate speech if it’s a factual comment?
/r/MensRights15/12/22 07:50 PM
2

Because patriarchy, and if you disagree then you must be a misogynist/sexist!
/r/MensRights15/12/22 03:06 PM
1

I appreciate the humor lol, but I’m intrigued as to what such a question would actually look like. Does anyone have any examples?
/r/MensRights15/12/22 09:05 AM
7

And wait, what about boys who might find that harder (a ‘story’ based question, whatever that is).
/r/MensRights13/12/22 06:41 AM
5

My fetus, my choice?
/r/MensRights13/12/22 06:36 AM
1

Very true, here it would more likely result in a trip to the cells!
/r/MensRights13/12/22 12:33 AM
1

Might be worth testing out. Contact the police and say a woman was ‘persistently staring’ at you. Remind them of the new law and offence. Insist they log it as an offence.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 12:32 AM
1

I think they are also illegal, just no one bothers to complain about it.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 12:28 AM
6

A nice thought, in reality you’ll be arrested and have to deal with all of that nonsense.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 12:27 AM
1

When someone starts using the term ‘relinquishing mother’, that’s your cue to escape as quickly as possible!
/r/MensRights13/12/22 12:22 AM
3

This is a typical feminist tactic. When someone points out an issue that men face, it’s twisted back into a women’s issue. For instance, if you point out that men are more likely to be attacked than women, a possible response could be ‘but who is attacking them? Oh look OTHER MEN! This is because of toxic masculinity and thus is a feminist issue’. There are many more such examples.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 12:19 AM
1

Because there weren’t enough already…
/r/MensRights13/12/22 12:16 AM
1

Yes sir, of course we strive to be inclusive. That’s why we’re excluding you!
/r/MensRights13/12/22 12:15 AM
1

What do you mean?
/r/MensRights12/12/22 05:14 PM
28

What’s scary is that this could happen to any of us at the drop of a hat.
/r/MensRights12/12/22 12:38 AM
115

Sorry sir, we firmly believe in gender and racial equality in our schools, thus we are rejecting you based on your race and gender. I hope you understand.
/r/MensRights12/12/22 12:36 AM
40

Very dangerous indeed, the left seems to be very authoritarian yet claims to be for ‘inclusivity’.
/r/MensRights12/12/22 12:28 AM
5

Not even that, they give out so many!
/r/MensRights11/12/22 09:52 AM
8

Just more of the classic feminist stuff tbh. You’ll get banned pretty quickly if you disagree with them, give it a try if you like :D They also like to make reference to the fact that someone posts in this subreddit, as if supporting men’s rights is somehow bad.
/r/MensRights11/12/22 12:37 AM
1

NOT THAT KIND OF SEXISM!
/r/MensRights10/12/22 02:23 PM
27

It’s because they view men and women as exactly the same and thus should have exactly the same outcomes. Now I don’t agree with Andrew Tate, but his logic is presumably that men and women are different, hence the result.
/r/MensRights10/12/22 01:36 PM
12

Wait a minute, even worse is deliberately walking closely behind someone’. What is ‘close’ exactly?
/r/MensRights09/12/22 03:15 PM
3

‘Staring persistently’
/r/MensRights09/12/22 03:14 PM
2

I contacted a law firm tonight, although they won’t be able to book me in for a consultation until Monday. Fingers crossed!
/r/MensRights08/12/22 08:31 PM
2

Thank you for the advice. The only one that seems immediately useful is the mankind organization, but they don’t seem to be open after 4pm, so I’ll have to contact them tomorrow at work :/.
/r/MensRights08/12/22 05:32 PM
2

But, you said it’s not a right to take drugs, because it requires a substance to be created and regulated. So does abortion. I’m not sure what your reasoning is here.
/r/MensRights08/12/22 03:01 AM
2

Abortion requires a substance to be created and regulated, is that not a right?
/r/MensRights08/12/22 02:57 AM
1

Is it a human right to take drugs?
/r/MensRights08/12/22 02:28 AM
18

The reason of ‘I want to be a mum’ is suspicious, why would she be on the pill if that were the case? Anyway, I’m not really sure there is much you can do. You could possibly report it as rape, but you’d need some evidence of her saying that she was on birth control when she actually wasn’t, and you’d also have to rely on the police taking it seriously. If you do have some evidence though (e.g text messages etc) then that might be worth doing.
/r/MensRights08/12/22 12:06 AM
4

Hmm, I’m not sure she deserves jail after reading this. If you wade through the mass of text it seems he was the first person to act physically violent, although apparently she did respond in a similar way.
/r/MensRights07/12/22 10:22 PM
14

One of the many silly things you can be called a misogynist for.
/r/MensRights07/12/22 09:01 PM
3

Is it a human right to have sex?
/r/MensRights07/12/22 08:32 PM
1

I don’t understand what you mean, sorry.
/r/MensRights06/12/22 03:20 AM
6

That’s a possible loophole, might be a good idea. It doesn’t change the fact that you still need a judge to approve an official’ paternity test. What if the judge refuses your request?
/r/MensRights05/12/22 06:50 PM
10

Yes the Duluth model. I’ve actually just read a nice article showing various interesting studies, such as there be many female violent offenders. For instance, when one partner is violent but the other does not respond, there are more female offenders!
/r/MensRights05/12/22 04:24 PM
87

Two issues with this. Firstly, a man came to her and started talking to her. What’s wrong with that? Would it be okay if a man spoke to another man? Or a woman spoke to a man? Or a woman spoke to another woman? Secondly, ‘take the lid off the cup’. What a bizarre signal. What if someone takes the lid off the cup for a completely different reason?
/r/MensRights05/12/22 06:19 AM
196

That does strike me as rather amusing. Hello judge, I got a paternity test and it says I’m not the actual father. WHAT, You got a paternity test!?! YOU ARE IN THE WRONG.
/r/MensRights05/12/22 12:39 AM
46

It doesn’t matter. The only thing you need to know is that she believes that women are oppressed and don’t have as many rights as men. Nothing else matters. Logic and reason are irrelevant. Feminism is the way forward etc. It is futile to argue with her.
/r/MensRights05/12/22 12:38 AM
3

Not quite as strange as what OP is describing!
/r/MensRights05/12/22 12:36 AM
9

Very complicated and I am skeptical that this is accurate or even actually happened, but if it did you have my sympathies and I hope you are doing well now.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 11:30 PM
30

The advice will heavily depend on what country you are in, what school, and the exact nature of what happened. Can you describe the encounter in more detail?
/r/MensRights04/12/22 11:27 PM
15

Men claim they are victims of discrimination = bad, apparently.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 11:14 PM
2

1 in 3000 is interesting, I was merely curious to find out if it is close to car accident risks, which I guess it isn’t.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 08:45 PM
1

Probably less than being in a car accident, likely more than being injured by animals.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 08:33 PM
3

Can you please find the source that says 1/52000 are raped, that would be rather interesting to see.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 08:30 PM
4

That does raise a good point, although I’m not sure you realise it. How are we counting cases of rape? Is via accusations or convictions? Not all accusations result in convictions, and not all convictions are true.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 08:29 PM
16

Yet more evidence for systemic oppression and discrimination towards men, ironically.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 08:11 PM
12

It’s not even about the arguments, it’s just the language and things they say. ‘Fascists misogynists, racists, bigots’ etc. That tells you all you need to know.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 04:50 PM
21

The only bits you need to read are ‘vote the fascists out’ and ‘forced birth’. That tells you the kind of person you are dealing with, and that argument and debate is futile.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 04:42 PM
30

Men receive worse sentences for the same crimes, that’s what the post is talking about.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 04:40 PM
6

That could certainly be the case. Men typically receive worse sentences for the same crime, which is probably what the post was referring to.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 04:40 PM
3

How dare one have sources, unless of course they are about feminism being correct, then have all the sources you need.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 01:40 PM
10

How dare one have sources, unless of course they are about feminism being correct, then have all the sources you need.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 01:40 PM
5

Just one of many organisations…
/r/MensRights04/12/22 10:58 AM
102

And the sad thing is that is a perfectly acceptable and reasonable thing to say in today’s society.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 10:49 AM
207

Shhh, you’ll shatter his logic.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 10:48 AM
-3

I do, you are certainly right there.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 04:49 AM
-5

I think you might be misunderstanding the sarcasm…
/r/MensRights04/12/22 04:44 AM
28

I tend to find the more common response is to cite a study demonstrating that your statistics are invalid, or that women are more affected somehow.
/r/MensRights03/12/22 11:08 PM
-18

Your post title is all that needs said to be said. Women are oppressed. No ifs no buts, just women are oppressed.
/r/MensRights03/12/22 11:07 PM
5

A big issue here is the anonymity law. Anyone could falsely accuse someone of rape, and they would be entitled to be anonymous, regardless of their accusations are true or not. This is clearly a ridiculous law. If anything, the defendant should be entitled to be anonymous, until proven guilty,
/r/MensRights03/12/22 11:03 PM
3

I look forward to hearing about the compensation you will receive as a result of these false charges, I’m sure that will occur…
/r/MensRights03/12/22 03:26 AM
2

Get out of here, you misogynist you!
/r/MensRights01/12/22 09:00 PM
15

But WomeN GooD
/r/MensRights01/12/22 07:12 PM
39

The funny thing is, it doesn’t disgust men. The only ones mentioning the disgust aspect are, surprise surprise, feminists.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 07:12 PM
1

That one makes me laugh! The PRIMARY victims. Do they not understand the word ‘primary’?
/r/MensRights01/12/22 12:43 PM
4

Everything is a feminist issue. It truly is awful how they seem to spin everything. Men killed in a war? Think of the poor wives, mothers, sisters etc. What’s that? Men have to work long hours? What about those poor wives having to look after the kids all by themselves! What’s that you say? Men are committing suicide because they are unhappy. How dare they leave their wives and daughters behind, this is clearly a women’s issue.
/r/MensRights30/11/22 08:38 PM
7

Don’t women cause 100% of pregnancies as well…?
/r/MensRights29/11/22 09:17 AM
1

I’m not sure what you are saying. I don’t agree with the whole critical race theory thing. If you’re saying that we should consider why men commit the majority of these crimes and try to fix those issues, then fair enough. I could possibly agree with the view that people commit crimes because of issues that they face. I don’t think that was the initial view though. It was a case of ‘men commit these crimes, men are bad’. It’s also worth pointing out that I don’t think this Critical Race Theory b…
/r/MensRights29/11/22 01:59 AM
1

Well, that’s another issue. The issue we were ‘discussing’ was that men commit certain crimes, so it’s apparently fair to blame men for that. But equally, black peoples commit a lot of crime, so presumably it would also be fair to blame black people for said crime. Of course, we obviously don’t do that.
/r/MensRights28/11/22 11:28 PM
3

There is plenty of research and data showing that black people commit a large proportion of crime, similarly to how you were saying that men commit certain crimes. Do we blame crime on black people? No, obviously not.
/r/MensRights28/11/22 11:16 PM
3

Fair enough, just like it wouldn’t change the fact the most people committing crime are black, right?
/r/MensRights28/11/22 11:05 PM
3

There we go then, so we blame the people committing the crimes, and not their gender or race.
/r/MensRights28/11/22 11:00 PM
3

Yes. As I said before, you wouldn’t blame black people for committing crime, or would you? I suppose that would at least be consistent, if you did.
/r/MensRights28/11/22 09:56 PM
10

That’s it, you’ve got it. Research like this distracts society from women’s rights and is therefore bad. Sorted. Feminism wins :D
/r/MensRights28/11/22 09:55 PM
22

The real question is, how are women affected and harmed by this revelation?
/r/MensRights28/11/22 09:44 PM
36

NOT THAT KIND OF RESEARCH!
/r/MensRights28/11/22 09:20 PM
14

The people to blame are the ones committing the crimes. Those people happen to be men. You wouldn’t blame black people for committing crime, would you?
/r/MensRights28/11/22 08:49 AM
25

It’s done as a cop out. Men are facing an issue? Yeah, that’s because of men, so we don’t need to worry about it. It’s done just to avoid facing the issue, and just places the blame back on men, and the people can say, what about the women??
/r/MensRights27/11/22 09:34 PM
2

A ban on women as well right? Right?
/r/MensRights27/11/22 09:32 PM
3

It’s unclear, his house was raided on suspicion, but nothing conclusive yet.
/r/MensRights27/11/22 08:24 PM
2

Presumably if the girl was too drunk to consent, and the guy was in a similar state, then he was also too drunk to consent, so they raped each other. Unless the scenario is that the girl was passed out on the floor and the guy decides to have sex with her unresponsive body.
/r/MensRights27/11/22 07:38 PM
10

You are correct. Men’s issues are ignored and considered not important (even nonexistent) by society. Ironically, men are closer to being oppressed than women are.
/r/MensRights27/11/22 10:15 AM
3

Not necessarily wrong in and of itself, but it’s worth noting that you’ll never see a sign on a train saying ‘end male homelessness’ or ‘prevent male suicide’ or ‘our mission is to stop men being affected by …’. And that’s all you need to know!
/r/MensRights26/11/22 07:20 AM
4

It’s also worth noting that abusive women may well claim that they are actually the ones being abused, and of course the police and law will side with them over the male victim.
/r/MensRights25/11/22 06:56 PM
5

They acknowledge the great inconvenience for the pensioner victim. Inconvenience? He had a stroke, possibly brought on by the stress of the ordeal.
/r/MensRights25/11/22 02:34 AM
5

It is very ironic that it is actually women saying hurtful things about men, rather than the other way around.
/r/MensRights25/11/22 02:30 AM
4

BECAUSE REASONS
/r/MensRights24/11/22 02:28 AM
10

Omg stop, your cursor is being misogynistic.
/r/MensRights24/11/22 02:27 AM
6

Of course, it had to be something silly like that!
/r/MensRights22/11/22 09:41 PM
2

You’ve passed the feminist initiation, I hereby accept you into the order.
/r/MensRights22/11/22 05:31 PM
46

The author even makes rather obvious mistakes. For example, they say that sex is not one of the protected characteristics, but it is…? Equality Act 2010. They also say that gender is not a spectrum, but a hierarchy. I thought their narrative was that gender is a spectrum, contradiction?
/r/MensRights22/11/22 04:16 PM
48

Try posting that in a feminist subreddit, see how they spin that one.
/r/MensRights22/11/22 04:10 PM
9

It’s apparently okay to be sexist as long as you are being sexist towards the ‘right’ group.
/r/MensRights22/11/22 04:06 PM
2

Really scary. ‘Hello sir, this lady said that you hit her’. ‘Officer, what evidence do you have?’ ‘Er well, she said so’. ‘You’ve got me, take me to the jailhouse!’
/r/MensRights22/11/22 12:36 AM
21

No need to read any further than ‘black supremacist’.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 06:25 AM
1

Yes, very true.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 11:03 PM
2

Just have to give up alcohol though, sad times!
/r/MensRights20/11/22 11:02 PM
1

Oh I see, I’m very sorry for not realising. You are welcome for my genius idea, I hope it helps you in the future!
/r/MensRights20/11/22 10:59 AM
2

Well, I was agreeing with you, I wanted to focus more in the stats side.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 10:47 AM
4

Hard to see the image but I think that’s correct. It’s better to do this in the context of proper debates though. Let them trap themselves.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 10:46 AM
10

I think you might misunderstand the point. There’s no use telling them that more men are homeless, or very few women are homeless. That doesn’t count in their ideology. Instead, you flip the statistic. For instance, ‘how do you feel about the fact that young men earn more than young women’? Presumably, they claim it’s unfair and sexist and should be changed etc etc. Then, you tell them it’s actually the other way around.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 10:39 AM
50

An interesting idea is to gender swap statistics that are about men. For instance, we know men are the majority victims of violent crime. But instead of saying that, you say ‘women are the majority victims of violent crime, how do you feel about that?’ Then see what they say. After a while, reveal the true statistic.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 10:06 AM
11

Indeed. I recently saw a post in AskFeminists that was asking if it was bad to say ‘I hate men’. The responses were essentially suggesting that it wasn’t bad. That tells you everything you need to know! Ironically, men, specifically white men, are the only group that are actually socially oppressed. One can quite easily say or do things against white men, such as ‘I hate white men’ or whatever, and it’s considered socially acceptable. Saying this about any other group is considered hate speech.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 02:09 AM
1

I don’t really understand what you are trying to say.
/r/MensRights19/11/22 02:35 AM
1

If I am drunk, and you are drunk, and we have sex, then who raped who?
/r/MensRights19/11/22 02:34 AM
1

If they use words such as ‘privileged’, ‘misogynistic’, ‘transphobic’ etc, that essentially means your argument is better and they can’t formulate a better one.
/r/MensRights19/11/22 02:33 AM
1

Because men face a number of important issues in society and they need to be addressed/dealt with?
/r/MensRights19/11/22 02:31 AM
2

I have a sudden urge to identify as trans. What’s that, you say? I’m not really trans? How dare you question my gender identity, you transphobe! Give me my money.
/r/MensRights19/11/22 02:29 AM
1

Sad times, what did you get banned for?
/r/MensRights19/11/22 02:26 AM
4

How dare you suggest closing a feminist/women’s space. How misogynistic of you. Men’s spaces, on the other hand, CLOSE THEM ALL.
/r/MensRights19/11/22 02:25 AM
1

Sex is obviously a need, pretty obvious there.
/r/MensRights19/11/22 02:25 AM
3

What is a tiny percentage?
/r/MensRights19/11/22 02:24 AM
3

Maybe we need to launch an ‘emotional toolkit’ for women?
/r/MensRights19/11/22 02:23 AM
3

And also that there are women on the Supreme Court!
/r/MensRights19/11/22 02:23 AM
1

Yes, exactly. Kids are very impressionable.
/r/MensRights19/11/22 02:19 AM
12

It’s also very interesting that lesbian women are more likely to have experienced this domestic abuse…
/r/MensRights19/11/22 02:19 AM
7

It is an uphill battle, but we have to keep trying.
/r/MensRights19/11/22 02:17 AM
9

A very good point, I wouldn’t be surprised if this subreddit was banned at some point.
/r/MensRights19/11/22 02:16 AM
11

I regret to inform you that you have been cancelled due to your common sense and logical reasoning.
/r/MensRights19/11/22 02:15 AM
13

The language is really worrying. Look at how horrible us men are, most of the violence against women is because of us. What an awful, awful gender we are. We have to change ourselves, because we are awful. There’s also plenty of things that women do that are hurtful and sexist towards men, will we be having an anti-sexism ‘toolkit’ for girls?
/r/MensRights19/11/22 02:14 AM
1

No, people should be able to speak freely without worrying about it being classed as ‘hate speech’.
/r/MensRights18/11/22 12:11 PM
8

A big issue with child support is that the recipient is not required to justify how they are using that money. I think that they should be required to demonstrate that the money is being used for the child, and provide evidence as such.
/r/MensRights16/11/22 04:49 PM
52

That sweet male privilege, really coming through here!
/r/MensRights13/11/22 05:58 PM
1

A strategic theory is still, despite the fancy name, either true or false. If it’s false, then obviously it’s rubbish. If it’s true, then it has some merit.
/r/MensRights13/11/22 10:52 AM
1

Sorry to hear this happened to you. It’s a tough world for a man. A woman can just tell people that you make her uncomfortable, you are harassing her etc, and it’s game over for you. Even when the story is proven to be false, it’s never quite the same again.
/r/MensRights13/11/22 10:50 AM
3

Schools are also a big problem as they tend to focus heavily on girls’ rights and safety. This then leads into the university stuff.
/r/MensRights13/11/22 10:49 AM
3

Shhh, you’ll ruin the illusion!
/r/MensRights13/11/22 10:47 AM
2

I think part of it is an instinctive, emotional response to want protect women. When you hear about a woman being raped or murdered, people may feel rather upset or angry about it. Men being killed doesn’t evoke the same response. Just a theory though.
/r/MensRights13/11/22 10:46 AM
11

But wait, this is being overseen by a straight, white male? I’m very confused now. Is the system still patriarchal?
/r/MensRights11/11/22 03:46 AM
11

Oh gosh, that sub is actually directly racist. They have some weird ‘verification’ procedure where you have to do different things depending on your race. If you are black, you have to submit a picture of your forearm, similar if not black but Asian (or non-white). If you are white, you have to follow some other procedure. Very bizarre.
/r/MensRights10/11/22 08:17 PM
58

Another case of men bad, women good. Or to be more precise, feminism good, anything else bad.
/r/MensRights10/11/22 06:50 PM
14

Inb4 discrimination and patriarchy and so on.
/r/MensRights09/11/22 10:49 PM
19

At the very least they should also train girls to recognise sexist behaviour towards men and boys. Why wouldn’t you?
/r/MensRights09/11/22 02:55 AM
13

Oops I slipped!
/r/MensRights08/11/22 11:41 PM
38

What a silly suggestion, men and women being responsible for their own choices?
/r/MensRights08/11/22 11:40 PM
4

I’m not sure what your point is here. What did you mean?
/r/MensRights08/11/22 11:39 PM
21

Why do we even call it MENstruation, that’s just sexist right?
/r/MensRights08/11/22 11:38 PM
6

I give it ten seconds before a permanent ban.
/r/MensRights08/11/22 08:05 AM
1

You might view it that way, but not for that person’s life. This is what makes the ideology so dangerous. You can be fired or expelled for disagreeing with it. Life ruined. If you are expelled from university, then you’ve wasted a lot of time trying to get a degree. Sure, you can go to another university, but that takes time. Being fired is even worse, as you have no income while searching for another job.
/r/MensRights06/11/22 05:18 PM
2

Possibly yes, but in the meantime, you’ve been expelled or fired… Suing can take a long time.
/r/MensRights06/11/22 05:01 PM
3

In theory yes, I agree. In practice however, you’d probably get labelled a transphobe, misogynist, etc, and be cancelled, fired, expelled etc.
/r/MensRights06/11/22 04:58 PM
2

CIA surveillance intensifies
/r/MensRights06/11/22 04:06 PM
4

It should get them somewhere. If they claim the bathroom is all gender, then they are discriminating if they don’t allow men. In any case, OP, can just complain and say that he ‘doesn’t feel comfortable discussing gender identity’. That should get them, by their own rules.
/r/MensRights06/11/22 04:05 PM
2

Only a week, lucky!
/r/MensRights06/11/22 04:03 PM
3

It’s really concerning to me, because I’m a teacher and I’m not supposed to question this, even though I’m really worried about kids who are being convinced that this is normal.
/r/MensRights06/11/22 04:01 PM
6

I agree, but I really think it would actually work, which is severely concerning.
/r/MensRights06/11/22 03:57 PM
8

How dare you, that offends me, I demand compensation.
/r/MensRights06/11/22 03:49 PM
1

I consider myself an egalitarian. I did originally participate in feminist subreddits, but got banned for essentially disagreeing with them. I haven’t yet been banned from this subreddit, so this feels more inclusive. I wouldn’t say I only support men’s rights.
/r/MensRights06/11/22 03:36 PM
1

It’s nigh on impossible to deny that feminism is almost solely concerned with female (sorry, people with the gender identity of female…) issues. It might not be man-hating directly, but they certainly don’t care very much about men’s issues, despite claims that they do.
/r/MensRights06/11/22 03:35 PM
25

Indeed. I don’t agree with this ‘identifying’ nonsense, but if they insist on it, then why not join in? You don’t even have to identify specifically, you can be ‘questioning’ or ‘not comfortable to discuss my identity’ etc. If they complain, then you’ve got them. By their own rules!
/r/MensRights06/11/22 03:32 PM
0

I’m not sure it’s banned per se. I did post in that subreddit while also posting here, and didn’t get banned directly. I did get banned for essentially disagreeing with them though (well, a certain moderator).
/r/MensRights06/11/22 03:30 PM
21

‘I do not have the emotional capacity to engage in this’ says it all really.
/r/MensRights06/11/22 03:29 PM
91

Exactly, but you don’t even have to say. You could even say, ‘I don’t feel comfortable discussing my gender identity’ or something similar.
/r/MensRights06/11/22 03:26 PM
163

It’s even easier than that. Just say that you don’t identify as male. Beat them at their own game.
/r/MensRights06/11/22 03:25 PM
21

That’s fine, just tell them you don’t identify as male. Tell them that you feel ‘discriminated’ against because of your gender identity. They’ll quickly change their tune. The bathroom is labelled as ‘all gender’ but men cannot use it… That doesn’t make sense. If the bathroom excludes men but allows all other genders, then just identify as another gender. Sorted.
/r/MensRights06/11/22 03:23 PM
1

What do you mean?
/r/MensRights06/11/22 03:19 PM
6

White men bad, everyone else good. Of course, there are layers to this discrimination/prejudice. For instance, if you are a white man, but also gay, then you are less ‘bad’ than a straight white man. Going further, if you are black, but also a man, you are less bad than white men, but still bad (according to gender/feminist/critical race ideology).
/r/MensRights06/11/22 10:39 AM
9

Can’t even let men have one day just for men, everything is a ‘feminist’ cause.
/r/MensRights05/11/22 08:18 PM
1

It is my cross in a certain sense (although not mine personally as I live in the UK). But if someone is insisting the government should give them money, then that money could have been spent on a different, more valuable project or cause.
/r/MensRights05/11/22 01:53 PM
1

The American government is not responsible for slavery in general. Slavery was rife in Africa prior to European/American involvement. In fact, some European countries were the first to outlaw and denounce slavery. I understand what you are saying about your relatives and ancestors etc. However, I don’t understand why you personally, need or deserve this ‘check’. Surely it should be given to someone who needs it more (if we agree such a check should be given in the first place)?
/r/MensRights05/11/22 12:53 PM
1

I see what you are saying, but it wasn’t considered wrong at the time, and certainly the American government is not responsible for slavery in general. Why do you, personally, need such a check?
/r/MensRights05/11/22 12:37 PM
1

Okay, well I think that both Affirmative Action and reparations for slavery are not good ideas, if that helps. If not, then what is your focus exactly?
/r/MensRights05/11/22 12:06 PM
0

But, you said it was about the transatlantic slave trade… I am very confused now.
/r/MensRights05/11/22 11:55 AM
1

I see what you mean now.
/r/MensRights05/11/22 09:15 AM
0

There is certainly a lot of information about slavery, not just transatlantic slavery. I am not trying to tangent, I’m trying to keep to the original discussion of slavery…
/r/MensRights05/11/22 09:14 AM
2

I know quite a bit about History I think, perhaps not Native American history so much, but certainly enough to discuss slavery, which, ironically, you haven’t even discussed properly yet!
/r/MensRights05/11/22 09:09 AM
5

Probably not for the ‘Jews’ as you refer to them… Native Americans I’m not sure. Not sure what you mean by the Japanese forced into camps, unless you mean the people who the Japanese forced into camps, as Japan committed many atrocities during the war.
/r/MensRights05/11/22 08:56 AM
6

Unfortunately, I also think that the idea of reparations for slavery is silly…
/r/MensRights05/11/22 08:35 AM
10

Affirmative action is silly anyway…
/r/MensRights05/11/22 03:53 AM
0

I zoned out when they started talking about ‘quiet quitting’.
/r/MensRights05/11/22 03:31 AM
4

Exactly. I get the impression that this merely a reason to further ‘corroborate’ the ‘patriarchy’.
/r/MensRights05/11/22 03:20 AM
1

Well, it is quite a hard crime to prove, I see what you are saying. I was getting at the point that if a man had been sentenced for a similar crime, then I wager it would have been more severe.
/r/MensRights05/11/22 03:03 AM
13

I have a particular approach to this. If a woman claims she has been raped by someone, I assume she is telling the truth about being raped (or feeling like she has been raped) but I assume nothing about who may have committed said rape. For instance, if she claims that Bob raped her, I make no judgements or assumptions about Bob.
/r/MensRights01/11/22 10:30 PM
4

Oh I see, I can’t see that comment, sorry. I think the typical response would be that those men are not men, they are women, so it doesn’t apply. Or something like that. Depends on what kind of feminist you ask.
/r/MensRights31/10/22 09:26 PM
44

The ideology is based around race, sex, etc, not class or wealth. For instance, if you are a white, straight male, you are automatically more privileged than a multi millionaire black female, regardless of any other circumstances. That’s how it works, in their ideology.
/r/MensRights31/10/22 09:11 PM
2

What about them?
/r/MensRights31/10/22 09:09 PM
319

This is clearly sexist and biased in nature. I do often wonder how we ended up in a society where bias and discrimination is acceptable towards certain groups, but not others. Just… How? I do also wonder how their bizarre logic works. For instance, clearly men are ‘privileged’ and can be discriminated against (in their minds). What about black men? Can this article be used to refer to black men? Or does the characteristic of being black make that unacceptable? What about bisexual men? Etc etc.
/r/MensRights31/10/22 04:57 PM
9

experts
/r/MensRights31/10/22 12:01 AM
109

Time to identify as non-binary I guess. Seriously though, that might not be a bad idea. Identify as non-binary, or if necessary, a woman. There aren’t any male-only policies or programmes (as far as I am aware) so it can’t hurt. Perhaps, if everyone does it, that will make them realise how silly this all is. I suppose non-binary is the safest option, because you can’t be excluded from either option!
/r/MensRights30/10/22 11:57 PM
1

I see, I guess that makes sense.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 05:25 PM
4

Sorry, I don’t really understand what your point is, where you making a statement, agreeing with me, or arguing against me? Apologies, it’s not very clear to me!
/r/MensRights30/10/22 05:10 PM
4

Of course there aren’t any explicit laws no, are there any explicit laws that women earn less than men? I feel like there is an inherent bias against men in society. Divorce doesn’t have any directly obvious bias though, only a possible social bias that is difficult to prove objectively, so I agree that it might not actually exist.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 04:44 PM
2

I would disagree that modern day feminism is conservative, it’s definitely highly left leaning at least.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 03:20 PM
2

I see what you are saying. In my view, it’s about ideology. People are taught this. In schools, universities, social media, and so on. It’s assumed to be correct. If you disagree, then you are a bigot, a fascist, a sexist or whatever.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 02:30 PM
1

Well, I think it’s more a case of ideology. They believe, as a core principle, that women are oppressed (or at the very least, worse off than men). That cannot be argued with, because it’s a core axiom. Because of the above, if you then claim that men are oppressed because of homelessness (for example) that automatically cannot be true, because women are oppressed (in their core principles).
/r/MensRights30/10/22 02:25 PM
2

I see, I’m glad that you critically examined the facts/arguments. Another telling aspect for me, is when they disregard statistics, studies, or arguments that contradict their beliefs. For instance, they might claim that women earn less than men, and one might say ‘but young women earn more than young men’. They will then proceed to disregard that because it doesn’t count, because of some other power structure or whatever.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 01:59 PM
67

Divorce is generally biased towards men because it is outdated. Previously women would have been unable to work or would not have as many career opportunities, so divorce should favour them in that case. However, today, women have access to the same opportunities as men, but divorce laws and judgements haven’t moved on. The idea of marriage has remained as a good thing though, because it is good in theory.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 01:55 PM
13

This is a very interesting question. I think the main reason is that feminism, and more specifically feminists, seem quite reasonable and like they are making good arguments at first. If someone tells you that women earn less than men, and shows you various statistics and studies, I think that a lot of people will be inclined to believe them. It’s only when you start to dig deeper that things begin to unravel. I would wager that most people don’t bother to dig deeper, but accept these ‘facts’ on…
/r/MensRights30/10/22 09:09 AM
2

Ukrainian women won’t be, Russian women might be if absolutely necessary…
/r/MensRights30/10/22 09:00 AM
9

No no, you’ve got it all wrong. You’ve just misunderstood what you professor meant. You CAN use empirical data to support claims, but only when those claims support the feminist narrative.
/r/MensRights29/10/22 01:18 PM
6

I’m not so sure I believe that. I think women are raised to believe that their career should be the most important thing to them.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 09:54 PM
0

Oh, you’re insulting me. Sorry, I didn’t mean to upset you, I really just didn’t understand what you were saying.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 08:18 PM
11

True, there is a danger, but I fully defend people’s right to say things. You cannot draw the line anywhere with free speech.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 08:17 PM
1

Er, I’m still a bit confused. Are you calling me a virgin, is that what you meant?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 08:11 PM
9

I see what you are saying. I just think it’s dangerous to put people in prison for words.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 08:11 PM
1

Incel, what’s that?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 08:10 PM
1

What is that? I don’t understand what you are trying to say. Sorry, perhaps it’s best we leave it here, I just can’t understand what you are trying to convey, apologies.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 08:07 PM
1

I still don’t really understand what this person is identifying as.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 08:06 PM
5

Yes I see what you mean. I suppose one could say ‘50 men were violently assaulted, let’s see if we double that next year’, would be interesting to see if the same/similar law applies then.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 08:04 PM
1

I understand that, I can see how people might experience gender dysphoria. I don’t really understand what you mean by assigned birth, do you mean whether they are male or female? I’m afraid I still don’t understand what you are suggesting this person is identifying as though. What did you mean? Can you describe it at all?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 07:58 PM
1

Sorry, I still don’t understand what you mean. What are they identifying as? How does someone identifying as something mean that they are that something?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 07:50 PM
1

I don’t really understand how, what do you mean by that?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 07:42 PM
1

I don’t quite understand.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 07:38 PM
0

Agreed, that is quite dangerous.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 07:28 PM
0

No, that isn’t scary to me.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 07:27 PM
1

I suppose he must have been somewhat attractive to OP at first, obviously OP thought he was female. I don’t think OP wanted to have same-sex intercourse though, so I guess OP should have asked beforehand. I’m sure it wouldn’t bother you, but it clearly has upset him quite a bit (and would probably upset many other people).
/r/MensRights28/10/22 07:27 PM
1

Yes, that could be the reason why they do earn more.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 07:24 PM
0

Cobras are quite dangerous I think.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 06:55 PM
2

Oh I see. I guess, it’s hard to understand his upset if wouldn’t bother you personally. I guess OP should have asked beforehand, to avoid this problem.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 06:52 PM
1

I’m not sure about women in general, I don’t agree with that.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 06:50 PM
-1

It’s not really a different opinion, per se, I was saying that two males had sexual relations, so that would naturally be homosexual or bisexual behaviour, or same-sex relations (whatever term we use). OP is clearly unhappy with this. I guess he thought he was having sex with a female at the time, but now realised that wasn’t the case. Perhaps he should have asked beforehand.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 06:41 PM
4

Well it’s certainly homosexual behaviour in some sense. Clearly, OP didn’t intend to have sex with a male, at least that’s what he seems to be suggesting. I assume OP means that he is straight, I think that’s what the problem was.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 06:35 PM
-2

It is gay in a sense though, two males had sexual relations. I suppose that could be bisexual as well though.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 06:31 PM
5

That is very true, and not talked about much. Why would you say it’s concerning that they get paid less when carrying a man’s child?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 06:26 PM
2

Oh, I’m sorry to hear that you were paid less than your boyfriend.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 06:25 PM
1

No, I don’t understand. What are you trying to say?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 05:28 PM
1

I’m sorry, I don’t understand what you are trying to say.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 05:27 PM
1

Oh, why is that?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 05:25 PM
1

I need to suffer more than him? I need to have something worse than 2.5 years in prison? That’s really concerning. You wrote that. About me, an actual person…
/r/MensRights28/10/22 05:17 PM
17

The laws that really bother me are in France. I’ve heard it’s illegal or inadmissible to do dna tests etc. what purpose does that serve? Surely the test reveals the truth, why are they so afraid of that?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 05:02 PM
5

I kind of agree with you in a sense. If he actually believed that women should be killed, then that would very alarming and I would certainly hope he gets some therapy. Unfortunately, we don’t know if he actually means that. He could well be posting these tweets as jokes, or to make a point, or something. I find it very improbable that he truly believes that we should ‘double the number of women killed’ or whatever, that’s just your emotional reaction to these words. He certainly shouldn’t be th…
/r/MensRights28/10/22 04:47 PM
1

I see. I would strongly recommend speaking to a solicitor/lawyer ASAP, and get this recorded and obtain advice on what to do. At the very least, you’ll be prepared if things get worse. Go to a lawyer and say that this therapist suggested that your daughter live with the mother instead, and ask for advice.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 04:16 PM
17

Second Comment: It would be fun to do an experiment writing similar tweets about men. You know, write something like ‘50 men are homeless in my town, let’s see if we can double that’ etc etc. Would I be carted off to prison for that?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 03:55 PM
22

2.5 years in prison, career ruined, life destroyed, reputation tarnished, all over two twitter messages. You’d get less for actually doing a physical crime like stealing or such.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 03:52 PM
15

Number 3 is scary, women earn more in those situations but somehow they are the ones who are oppressed.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 02:49 PM
9

Possible yes, but highly unlikely. This is mostly because of the ‘cancel’ nature of today. WHAT, you’ve DISAGREED with me? RACIST, TRANSPHOBE, MISOGYNIST, or whatever. It’s an easy tactic, you wouldn’t want to be friends with a sexist, would you?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 10:57 AM
1

Tbh, I’m not sure what advice to offer you. The world is so stacked against men that you have an uphill battle to face. The only thing I can say is to and enjoy and cherish your time with your daughter while you still have the opportunity. Tell her that you love her and will always support her. Do you have full custody at the moment, or is it shared?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 10:48 AM
7

Tbh, I’m not sure any country is pro-men, just less explicitly biased towards women. I doubt you would find a country where men could scholarships, access to support schemes etc soley on the basis of being male, and women could not.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 10:07 AM
2

That is interesting. What do you think we should about this problem?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 01:27 AM
3

I’ve never heard of Andy Man’s Club, and I’ve certainly never heard of any advert or government support focusing on men, outside of this subreddit or similar forums.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 01:26 AM
3

That’s sounds quite awful. I don’t think I ignore women and stare at their chest, or do anything like you’ve described. You must have encountered some nasty people.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 01:23 AM
8

That was not my point. I was more concerned that men have no public support or advocacy. There are plenty of issues that affect men as a majority, but they are not discussed by governments or other institutions etc.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 01:16 AM
1

What do you mean by gawking, staring, and rude comments? I haven’t encountered that sort of thing.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 01:13 AM
1

I don’t really understand your point here, sorry…
/r/MensRights28/10/22 01:10 AM
5

The ad isn’t a testament, that’s not what I meant, but that was in response to the other person. It’s not an issue per se, it becomes an issue when men have no support in society. I’m not opposed to such adverts in and of themselves, but adverts for men either don’t exist or have very little public support.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 01:03 AM
1

That’s worrying, why do you want me to be a ‘man’. Should I be a man?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 12:55 AM
-2

I didn’t make an initial post…
/r/MensRights28/10/22 12:44 AM
4

No, it’s a testament to how female-focused our society is. We know it is wrong, that’s why we draw attention to it. Of course, I agree. Unfortunately, I think you will find a lack of adverts for men.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 12:05 AM
4

I have to say, this post is a bit concerning.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 11:54 PM
3

Their ‘citations’ and arguments mean nothing. It’s about agreeing with their ideology.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 11:16 PM
2

We’ve been checkmated, drat. :(
/r/MensRights27/10/22 11:15 PM
1

I’m not sure about women per se, I think you mean women who subscribe to the feminist ideology (which is a lot, sadly).
/r/MensRights27/10/22 11:15 PM
5

I do make rather creative sandwiches, can I be a sandwich artist :) ?
/r/MensRights27/10/22 11:02 PM
6

Shaming tactics are extremely common and very effective socially. Racist, sexist, misogynist, transphobe, etc. Done and dusted. You don’t want to associate with a racist, do you?
/r/MensRights27/10/22 11:00 PM
-3

If they provide a source, you’ll still disagree with it, right?
/r/MensRights27/10/22 10:56 PM
3

Cancel culture is the new way, unfortunately. This is a sad reality that I have come to accept, despite attempting to argue against it. You can be fired for disagreeing with certain opinions. Fired. Lose your job. Be unable to get another job due to bad references. Very scary.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 10:52 PM
0

Given that most ‘accusers’ are women, would that not amount to the same thing in practice?
/r/MensRights27/10/22 10:52 PM
0

See above.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 10:51 PM
8

I disagree. Rape convictions are quite lengthy, so I’m not sure double is a good idea. I would rather suggest that all major newspapers have to publish a front page article clearly stating that the person was falsely accused etc. That would be something. I don’t really care about the person that falsely accused him/her, I care about his reputation and career after the accusation.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 10:51 PM
2

What do you mean, suddenly?
/r/MensRights27/10/22 10:46 PM
5

I’m not triggered per se, I’m just curious as to why I have never come across an advert for men, instead of women. You do make a good point about percentages though, is that the criteria for government support etc? For example, if we knew that rape affected males mostly, that would qualify men for support etc (obviously not true, just hypothetical)?
/r/MensRights27/10/22 10:42 PM
97

Zilch. You are screwed. You can present the best, most logical, well-reasoned argument and it won’t change their minds in the slightest. Having said that, you may be able to change the minds of some people who haven’t yet been absorbed into this ideology. It’s difficult to know what arguments to use, but it might be worth using what you have already been taught. For instance, if you’ve been told about the gender pay gap, you could provide arguments showing that it isn’t quite that simple etc. Yo…
/r/MensRights27/10/22 10:37 PM
-4

I think men already know not to do those things, but some still do anyway, because creepy people exist?
/r/MensRights27/10/22 10:01 PM
3

It’s not about diversity or representation, it’s about agreeing with their worldview. You could be a white, heterosexual multi-millionaire, as long as you agreed with and supported their ideology.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 06:24 PM
2

They don’t really need any new buzzwords do they? Don’t transphobe, misogynist, racist etc cover everything?
/r/MensRights27/10/22 11:44 AM
1

It is rather difficult to like a group when they are telling you that you are ‘privileged’ and effectively less deserving of help than other people.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 10:35 AM
2

Who are the real racists and sexists?
/r/MensRights27/10/22 10:32 AM
3

Well said, history is very interesting to read.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 10:27 AM
0

It’s a common cop out. ‘Oh well, that wouldn’t be a REAL feminist’. Absolves them of blame.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 10:27 AM
1

Exactly. If I started an organisation called ‘Rights for Whites’ which actually focused on rights for everyone, that would still be concerning.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 10:25 AM
4

I’d ask, but I got banned for ‘not reflecting a feminist perspective’ :(
/r/MensRights27/10/22 10:24 AM
1

Indeed. Abortion is an additional form of contraception at best. We don’t talk about condoms being a ‘right’ etc.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 05:40 AM
1

Exactly, it’s because the person is a man (probably a white man, but could be any man) and thus you can’t discriminate against them because of ingrained power structures or some such silly reason.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 05:31 AM
1

I think all political parties operate in this way to a certain extent. In my experience, I have found the Republican Party (or right leaning politicians in the UK) to be more reasonable in terms of discussion. Just look at the number of videos or stories about speakers and other people being shut down by the left. I don’t currently support either side though, they both have severe flaws.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 05:18 AM
1

Indeed, very concerning. What I worry about most is children being indoctrinated into these beliefs…
/r/MensRights26/10/22 11:26 AM
2

Now that’s the kind of equality I’m talking about. Down with the patriarchy. - Some feminist, 2k22.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 09:15 AM
1

Everything that agrees with the ideology will get upvotes lol. You could make the most ridiculous claim, but as long it agreed with their ideology, then you would get upvotes and support.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 09:13 AM
2

You’re not a misogynist or anything. This is just a way to discredit and shame you without needing to actually do anything. Somebody dismantled your argument? MISOGYNISTIC! Somebody pointed out that your statistic was incorrect? TRANSPHOBE MISOGYNIST etc etc. It’s a buzzword used to evoke an emotive response and get the crowd to side with you. You wouldn’t want to side with a misogynist right? How could you!
/r/MensRights25/10/22 09:09 AM
6

Of course not, personal responsibility isn’t a thing in this modern era.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 02:04 AM
11

These days it’s hard to tell if a film or something is being done as a ‘woke’ message or not. I haven’t actually watched this film, but even then it would be hard to tell.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 01:51 AM
9

I don’t know about the ‘vast majority’ but certainly a significant level. It’s a difficult situation to handle. On the one hand, if someone claims to have been raped, then they need to be supported and ‘believed’. On the other hand, we can’t just assume somebody is guilty. Perhaps a different approach is needed. If someone claims to have been raped, we support them, and assume that they are suffering severe emotional and or physical distress, but we don’t assume who or what caused it.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 08:57 PM
3

It would be interesting to know the risk profile for additional jabs though. If you have already had one or two jabs with no effects, then is a third jab relatively safe? I have been planning to get a third vaccine, but not sure in light of this new information.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 08:54 PM
5

Yikes, I’ve already had two jabs.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 04:50 AM
343

Ah yes the academic scholars of gender studies, a rigorous, scientific, non-biased field that I hold in very high regard.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 11:12 PM
6

We’ll probably not a first date no, OP never mentioned specifics. I assume this is more for a serious relationship. If it was just a one off thing then you probably wouldn’t care about their beliefs.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 08:43 PM
7

Many times yes, I’d say around a 75% chance of success. In all seriousness, no, I’ve actually never asked that question, was just responding to OP. Thanks for taking the time to try and insult me though, I’ll add it to my treasured collection of internet insults.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 08:10 PM
3

It’s sexist if you do invite them to dinner, and sexist if you don’t invite them. Hmmmmmm….
/r/MensRights22/10/22 06:46 PM
1

It’s also worth noting that she will likely gain a massive amount of public support on this, whereas a man would probably not gain as much support.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 06:45 PM
1

I think Liz was an ‘okay’ option for men. Certainly not good, but better than some other possibilities. The conservatives are probably the best/least worst party for men’s rights, but sadly not very good for anything else.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 06:44 PM
1

Would that also apply to women wanting abortions? Surely they have responsibility to have safe sex or no sex at all? Obviously excluding rape and medical conditions from this.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 06:42 PM
14

Easy, just mention some sort of feminist article or claim. E.g, I saw in the news that women are still getting paid less than men, what do you think of that? Or ‘my friend told me that…’.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 06:37 PM
2

Yet another reason why we should definitely not relax the criteria for convicting someone of rape.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 06:32 PM
1

I think that, in this case, I am inclined to agree that she should have the choice. She is likely to going to die either way, and this is clearly a very emotional decision for her. I think that as her husband, he should support her decision whatever the choice. Of course, this doesn’t apply in general abortion cases, just this one.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 06:31 PM
2

Very true. Pondering the mathematics of feminism, what are the axioms? Is ‘women are oppressed’ an axiom, or does it follow from assuming the Patriarchy as an axiom? Hmmmmm
/r/MensRights22/10/22 04:19 PM
2

Isn’t this already illegal anyway? Also, how will this be proven? Also the wording of the article is very weird. It says ‘especially because of their sexual CONDITION’. Is it some sort of medical disorder?
/r/MensRights22/10/22 04:58 AM
8

It’s not racist or sexist if it affects white men. Right? Because of power structures or some such explanation. Basically just an excuse to be racist or sexist towards white men.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 04:48 AM
31

Basically, this will be twisted to suggest it’s harmful to women, because of ‘female stereotypes’ and such. Which may be true, but it’s directly benefitting women, and harming men. This is the number one reason that I cannot ever agree with feminists. Not because I necessarily disagree with them on everything, but because they always try to twist the narrative back towards ‘women are oppressed’.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 04:27 AM
1

We’re not going backwards, we are going forwards. All in the name of ‘gender equality’.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 04:24 AM
2

I don’t despise feminists per se, but they usually hold ridiculous beliefs. I have had several friends who were feminists, but changed their minds after realising that it was rather silly.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 06:59 PM
53

I hereby award your victimhood points, don’t spend them all at once.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 02:35 PM
2

Inb4 What is a ‘radical Feminist’ lol
/r/MensRights21/10/22 02:32 PM
1

It depends how on whether it is offensive or defensive. I also don’t think I’d be very useful in a war lol, probably just get in the way. However, I am a teacher so I’d probably get used for evacuating kids and what not.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 02:28 PM
158

Gender roles are perfectly fine when it benefits women.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 01:27 AM
2

I love the reasonable situations you have described (France). Of course, infertility makes sense. Deployment makes sense too, all perfectly reasonable. What about no such situation but the woman just had sex with some other lover or someone? Erm no, that would not be reasonable, sorry :(
/r/MensRights21/10/22 01:11 AM
4

Women good, men bad :(
/r/MensRights21/10/22 12:28 AM
0

I really don’t understand why people try to advocate for communism etc after what happened in the Soviet Union.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 12:27 AM
8

Women are already equal, if not superior to men in the western world. Feminism achieved its goal. Done and dusted.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 12:25 AM
3

An excellent point! They have to believe in the patriarchy because their entire ideology collapses without it.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 12:24 AM
19

We meet every Tuesday, just to make a few laws oppressing women and whatnot, casual business really.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 12:23 AM
8

I think they might be doing a Christmas sale soon, keep your eye out for that one. I got mine last year!
/r/MensRights21/10/22 12:22 AM
3

But erm er, feminism!
/r/MensRights20/10/22 07:26 PM
13

No no, remember, Misandry only annoys men, but misogyny kills women (or some such nonsense)
/r/MensRights20/10/22 05:59 PM
2

Even worse than that, it’s ‘transphobic’.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 05:57 PM
4

It’s getting absolutely insane at this point, that this is even being taken seriously. It’s not even worth arguing with them though, because they won’t listen. Also hang on! ‘It’s the most dangerous thing we ask people to do willingly with their bodies’??! Is childbirth really that deadly? What about car accidents?
/r/MensRights20/10/22 05:46 PM
5

Conservatives are probably the best party to have in power in terms of male rights (or even just basic respect for men). By no means perfect of course. But certainly, Labour and Liberals will be far worse.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 05:30 PM
1

But don’t forget, this is because of the stereotypes of girls being obedient and well behaved, so it’s actually part of the patriarchy after all! See, feminism does want to help men. Honest.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 11:41 AM
1

You had me at Objectification ‘Theory’ lol!
/r/MensRights20/10/22 09:47 AM
10

Quick, cancel me before I say anything else!
/r/MensRights19/10/22 08:23 PM
38

My take on this: She should be perfectly entitled to have female staff care to her, subject to availability. Obviously if the only possible staff members are male, then that’s all she can have. She certainly shouldn’t be expected to consider ‘transgender people’ as female in this regard. To summarise: if the hospital has capacity to allow only female staff to assist her, then great. If not, then she has to make her own decision about whether to accept treatment or not. Similarly, men should be a…
/r/MensRights19/10/22 06:58 PM
2

Some countries will still consider it a crime if you commit it in another country (I’m not sure if France works that way or not).
/r/MensRights19/10/22 09:58 AM
2

Good point, a bit like a puppet king where he ‘technically’ has power, but really it’s his advisors or army that has the power.
/r/MensRights19/10/22 08:16 AM
3

Re your comment regarding abortion in America: Are you aware of the members on the Supreme Court?
/r/MensRights19/10/22 08:14 AM
2

I think you’ve replied to the wrong comment here, I’ll paste my previous response below: I think we’ve become a bit confused here. The laws aren’t ‘designed’ to favour women, but they do in practice. Just like the education system isn’t ‘designed’ to favour girls, but we know that teachers tend to favour girls over boys. Another example would be woken receiving lower sentences for crimes. I agree with you that this isn’t designed by law, that would be rather scary if it was.
/r/MensRights19/10/22 01:52 AM
3

I think we’ve become a bit confused here. The laws aren’t ‘designed’ to favour women, but they do in practice. Just like the education system isn’t ‘designed’ to favour girls, but we know that teachers tend to favour girls over boys. Another example would be woken receiving lower sentences for crimes. I agree with you that this isn’t designed by law, that would be rather scary if it was.
/r/MensRights19/10/22 01:32 AM
3

I mean, they are similar are they not? If women are considered the primary caregiver, then they are being favoured because they are women in a certain sense, it’s just a rephrasing of the words.
/r/MensRights19/10/22 01:28 AM
5

You may ‘know’ many fathers in that situation, but sadly that is anecdotal and not applicable as a general statement. The statistics do show that women generally win/have custody or whatever.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 10:22 PM
7

Very true, the laws aren’t gender specific. Why do you think women get custody most of the time? I think that strictly speaking the laws aren’t gender based, but in practice they benefit women more
/r/MensRights18/10/22 10:18 PM
4

Has anyone tried mentioning this in a feminist subreddit? Would be interested to see their response lol!
/r/MensRights18/10/22 06:47 PM
1

I would disagree that it never happens, I’m sure there are places that try to have that as a requirement. But certainly not a common thing, and as you say, would be subject to much outrage if revealed to the public!
/r/MensRights18/10/22 01:08 AM
2

But um er, patriarchy right? Is it sad that I can already tell the typical feminist counter argument to this? It would be one of the following: This is because of internal sexism against women, because they are hired because of their looks or whatever (insert trait here). This is great news, but look at these areas where women are disadvantaged (insert area here). That study doesn’t count (because it doesn’t agree with my worldview). Here’s another study showing the opposite (insert study here).…
/r/MensRights17/10/22 08:38 PM
2

Funny how they are happy to use definitions when it suits them…
/r/MensRights17/10/22 08:34 PM
1

I don’t know if any companies first hand, but have heard stories from others about women needing to wear makeup/heels etc at work. Obviously this is anecdotal, but I think it does occur in some places, even if not very common. My point was that people are quick to complain when something affects women, but somehow when it affects men it doesn’t matter quite as much…
/r/MensRights17/10/22 08:34 PM
1

Practically speaking no, I think that men and women have separate dress codes and that is perfectly fine. In today’s world, yes I do have a problem. This is because people are quick to complain about things that disadvantage women (e.g having to wear heels in the workplace), but don’t address men having to wear suits and ties in a hot and sweaty environment. There needs to be fairness.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 05:10 PM
5

That has often been said to be the case. However, I would be interested to find solid unbiased research on this. For instance, a study examining women who were deemed to be exaggerating/ignored, but actually turned out to have serious health conditions.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 05:05 PM
11

It’s tricky, I think sometimes women are taken more seriously (like cases of cancer etc) but other times they aren’t taken seriously.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 10:55 PM
3

I think one of the reasons is that women tend to complain more about their current situation. This is a common thing throughout history. For instance, men are often annoyed because their wife is ‘nagging’ them or whatever. As a man, if I have a wife and a home, I’ll be pretty happy. But women often seem unhappy regardless of their current situation. Always striving to improve their social situation. This could be an evolutionary thing, but I’m not sure exactly.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 06:13 AM
0

This is an interesting issue. I think that in the interest of fairness, if women can physically abort, then men should be able to financially abort. However, although I used to be pro-choice, I find myself leaning more towards pro-life now, so neither gender should abort in that stance.
/r/MensRights15/10/22 07:38 AM
10

It is legal in various states though, so presumably those should allow males to ‘abort’ too. Also, women do sometimes trap or trick men into pregnancies, so that’s an issue.
/r/MensRights15/10/22 07:37 AM
34

It is indeed discrimination under the Equality Act, unless they have a very good reason which is unlikely. However, good luck in actually getting anywhere with it.
/r/MensRights13/10/22 03:41 PM
10

I think women tend to expect too much from their partners. This is likely a leftover from more traditional times, where the man was supposed to provide for the woman in every way. Of course, with modern day feminism, that is no longer the case, but many women still desire the traditional roles as long as it benefits them.
/r/MensRights11/10/22 10:44 PM
1

The main issue with false accusations is not necessarily the threat of prison, but more the social implications. Imagine getting accused during university? The university (staff and students) will of course believe the girl, and your reputation is ruined. You could even be expelled. No one will want to be associated with you.
/r/MensRights10/10/22 03:07 PM
2

I wonder if it is possible to beat them at their own game? Complain and say there aren’t enough black women on the panel? After that, not enough bisexual women. And then not enough transgender women. Keep going ad infinitum.
/r/MensRights09/10/22 07:24 PM
1

Being honest, I haven’t read everything, but it was interesting to read that just as many men are ‘made to penetrate’.
/r/MensRights09/10/22 11:24 AM
1

I propose a special lump tax for Oxford and lower taxes/fees for other universities. Oxford and Cambridge have privilege over other universities, so it is only fair. How does that sound?
/r/MensRights09/10/22 10:59 AM
5

Well, that’s political in nature I guess. But they certainly could focus on other things like HIV, natural disasters, climate change, etc.
/r/MensRights09/10/22 10:58 AM
29

Why is the UN discussing ‘toxic masculinity’ when there are far more important things to be addressed?
/r/MensRights09/10/22 10:49 AM
12

Stats and evidence are one thing, but at the end of the day we live in a society where women are privileged. It’s almost an instinct to believe women about these things. You could present evidence showing that 70% of rape accusations are false, and that wouldn’t change anything at all.
/r/MensRights09/10/22 05:08 AM
1

Yes, and many of those laws or policies favour women. I am aware of Roe v Wade, however it is incorrect to say that ‘men’ were responsible for this. Are you aware of the current members of the Supreme Court? *People in power decide what happens to people who aren’t in power.
/r/MensRights08/10/22 12:59 PM
1

They don’t have ownership over women though, what does that even mean? Having a male prime minister doesn’t mean that they ‘own’ women. Look at how many privileges and schemes that have been implemented for the benefit of women. Who implemented them? In addition, nothing is stopping women from becoming an MP.
/r/MensRights08/10/22 11:18 AM
3

I see, thanks for the advice. The students do ask questions, but obviously any ‘wrong’ questions are shut down. For instance, some students have raised religious concerns about being LGBT, which have been shut down and criticised.
/r/MensRights07/10/22 11:30 PM
28

Actually, it’s even better that it’s from 2005, because we are supposedly ‘more equal’ now than in previous years (although apparently not completely equal yet).
/r/MensRights05/10/22 03:03 AM
12

The other thing that gets me is that they were arrested on suspicion of ‘murder’, meaning that the police assumed it was deliberate.
/r/MensRights03/10/22 09:45 AM
10

Very true, the idea of patriarchy gives them a way to dismiss arguments against their beliefs.
/r/MensRights01/10/22 02:05 PM
8

Sorry, but your post didn’t confirm to the feminist narrative, so it’s automatically wrong :(
/r/MensRights30/09/22 05:49 PM
2

But don’t forget, women are the oppressed gender!
/r/MensRights26/09/22 03:21 PM
2

Some nice, wholesome equality.
/r/MensRights25/09/22 08:41 AM
4

I don’t think it’s the simple though. People often consume alcohol to lower their inhibitions. They might not have engaged in sex if they were sober, but that was the point of consuming the alcohol. In addition, what happens if both people have consumed alcohol? Did they rape each other?
/r/MensRights24/09/22 01:49 PM
2

I don’t think that’s the case. I live in the UK, and I believe the criteria is that there needs to be a reasonable belief of consent. Alcohol does not invalidate that automatically. For instance, if I have two glasses of wine, and then a girl has sex with me, that would probably not be rape. Now, if I had ten shots of whiskey, then it might be a different story.
/r/MensRights24/09/22 01:33 PM
3

I’m not sure. I suppose it would have to be proven that they did not consent to the recording, but that might then suggest they consented to sex but not the recording. Best not to record at all, but then maybe it’s best not to have sex at all until you trust the person.
/r/MensRights24/09/22 01:26 PM
7

I think deliberately malicious false accusations are uncommon (e.g when the accuser knows it is not true). What worries me is the possibility of false accusations that the accuser believes to be true. For instance, a common feminist narrative is that alcohol invalidates consent, so a woman who had a couple of drinks might believe she has been raped, if she subscribes to that narrative.
/r/MensRights24/09/22 01:13 PM
6

This is a tricky one. It would be illegal to record the event without their consent. However, it might be feasible to use it as evidence to avoid a rape charge, although you would then open yourself up to the crime of recording it. It’s a very difficult situation to navigate as a man, because of the power of false rape accusations.
/r/MensRights24/09/22 01:10 PM
3

Men bad, women good?
/r/MensRights23/09/22 05:32 PM
5

Remember, men bad, women good.
/r/MensRights22/09/22 06:44 PM
19

Inb4 toxic masculinity or some such other nonsense.
/r/MensRights21/09/22 03:23 PM
1

Yes this is a great point that I raised in a feminist subreddit, no response of course.
/r/MensRights20/09/22 05:20 AM
3

Not in my experience, because they dogmatically believe feminist theory. In their eyes, patriarchy is a ‘scientific fact’, a ‘truth’ which cannot be denied. You can’t make progress with them. However, you may be able to change the minds of some of them, if you can find them!
/r/MensRights19/09/22 06:36 AM
170

How have they managed to convinced everyone that women are the oppressed gender???
/r/MensRights19/09/22 01:17 AM
2

Hah, good one! It would be a miracle if they discussed any of that.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 11:52 PM
3

We don’t know that. A woman could be playing a prank and stealing it, perhaps in order to get the guys into trouble. Or she could be making it up. Or she might have lost the underwear. There could be any number of reasons, but apparently the default is ‘blame the men’
/r/MensRights17/09/22 09:27 PM
5

I participated in that subreddit for a short while. I got warned because I wasn’t ‘reflecting a feminist perspective’ even though I stated that I firmly believed in equality for both sexes. The moderator could not explain how I was not a feminist, they just warned me to only respond to comments, but not post any myself. I dutifully followed their instructions, and only responded to comments, saying that I disagreed and why I disagreed. Eventually, a moderator got quite annoyed at me and at times…
/r/MensRights17/09/22 09:25 PM
46

Funny how women are ‘oppressed’ but society seems to care about their problems only.
/r/MensRights17/09/22 05:23 PM
10

The one gets me is the idea of ‘internalising oppression’. That ensures that even people from these so called ‘disadvantaged’ groups can’t disagree with them!
/r/MensRights17/09/22 01:10 PM
2

Discrimination is always okay if it’s against men.
/r/MensRights17/09/22 07:46 AM
28

For me, the biggest privilege that women enjoy is as follows: Women have a large, internationally recognised, socially approved, and powerful movement fighting for them (feminism). Men have no such equivalent movement, even though men face a lot of problems as well.
/r/MensRights17/09/22 07:04 AM
5

In my opinion, I wouldn’t suggest becoming an MRA or a feminist. Instead, you should be focusing on addressing issues for all genders and races, not just men or just women etc.
/r/MensRights17/09/22 07:00 AM
1

Good luck m8, I hope you don’t get too much abuse from them!
/r/MensRights16/09/22 10:56 AM
3

You can’t convince her, in her mind it’s all because of patriarchy and oppression. No amount of evidence or sources will convince her. Having said that, if you do want to try (it will be futile) then the other suggestions in this thread sound good. I’ve learned this the hard way. I’ve seen many debates where the opposing side had extremely credible sources and lots of evidence, and the feminist side always goes back to patriarchy and privilege, and the same old arguments. The other side has won …
/r/MensRights16/09/22 10:51 AM
1

You mean the theory of patriarchy?
/r/MensRights16/09/22 10:47 AM
0

But look at how many male prime ministers we have had! That must be evidence of patriarchy, right? Right…?
/r/MensRights16/09/22 10:46 AM
52

Few and far between unfortunately, I have never encountered such an organisation. Almost everywhere seems to have some ‘diversity agenda’. However, I would recommend that you don’t question this, for the sake of your career. It isn’t ideal, but if you speak up about it then your career will go down the pan, sadly. That’s the world we live in today. I do sometimes wish we could do something about it, but it would take a massive societal change to do that.
/r/MensRights15/09/22 08:14 PM
1

I see. Let me pose you another question. Why does it matter who had it worse? Let’s say we found that men have six issues/problems, and women have ten. Why would that matter? Shouldn’t we try and eliminate all the issues anyway?
/r/MensRights14/09/22 05:13 PM
1

Oh I’m sure your sources are accurate. However, what you have missed is that throughout history, women have enjoyed various advantages and benefits. They had disadvantages too, but then again so did men. For instance, women were typically protected in times of danger or crisis, whereas the men would be expected to ‘suck it up’ and do the dangerous stuff. Women are/were also typically more trusted than men. For instance, a woman can be trusted to be around children, but people find it creepy when…
/r/MensRights14/09/22 04:46 PM
125

Yes you are correct. However, the response will likely be something along the lines of ‘you can’t be sexist towards men, or racist towards white people because of the power structures in place blah blah’ It does strike me as rather strange that it always seems to be feminists etc that being up sex or race, no one else seems to be quite as obsessed with it…
/r/MensRights13/09/22 08:20 PM
16

I do appreciate that you are looking for research to back up your beliefs and views. However, in practice, you won’t get anywhere. Regardless of what evidence you provide, the answer is always ‘patriarchy’ or ‘that affects women too’ or whatever. Bottom line, it’s always about women, and women being oppressed. Evidence doesn’t seem to hold any weight, and it will just be ‘debunked’ by the opposing side. It’s a hard pill to swallow. Please do continue to research and find evidence for your belief…
/r/MensRights13/09/22 07:31 PM
11

What do you mean?
/r/MensRights13/09/22 07:28 PM
1

I see what you are saying, but that doesn’t really address what I was getting at? For instance, how can we/I address issues that men face, such as homelessness? How we can try to change societies opinions of male issues (I.e, help them understand that women are not oppressed, and that men face real problems as well)?
/r/MensRights11/09/22 02:52 PM
4

That doesn’t change the concern…
/r/MensRights11/09/22 02:06 PM
3

Not to be rude, but your phrasing is very concerning… Push back women to where they belong? I don’t agree with a lot of feminist viewpoints, but that does sound worrying to me…
/r/MensRights11/09/22 02:03 PM
3

That’s a good point. What I really meant was, how can we address issues that affect people? E.g issues that affect men. That’s often what people mean by equality, although it isn’t strictly correct.
/r/MensRights11/09/22 02:02 PM
7

So, you’re perfectly fine with the male suicide rate then? We shouldn’t do anything about that?
/r/MensRights11/09/22 01:59 PM
5

Right… So how can I go about addressing those inequalities?
/r/MensRights11/09/22 01:58 PM
4

I see what are you saying. Why did the author phrase it as ‘women against men’? Why not just say that society would be better if people would engage in justifiable violence against their abusers?
/r/MensRights11/09/22 01:37 PM
4

I do appreciate your comments, you clearly took some effort when writing this post :) However, I’ve come to realise that it doesn’t matter how well people ‘debunk’ claims. Opponents will just ‘debunk’ your ‘debunking’. Bottom line, if you disagree with them, you are wrong, regardless of your evidence and arguments :/
/r/MensRights11/09/22 12:48 PM
11

How will society define ‘justified’ violence? Isn’t violence already justified in some instances? Self defense is often justifiable. Anyway this whole thing is ridiculous. I wouldn’t be able to publish a paper saying that black people commit more criminal activity than white people, so why can people publish papers saying that men commit more violence than women?
/r/MensRights11/09/22 12:43 PM
10

Unfortunately this doesn’t count, because it’s other men who commit the violent crimes, so men still have privilege. That’s probably what they would say right?
/r/MensRights11/09/22 09:17 AM
2

No no, stop that.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 05:49 PM
3

NOT THAT KIND OF LIVED EXPERIENCE!
/r/MensRights10/09/22 05:38 PM
1

NOT THAT KIND OF LIVED EXPERIENCE!
/r/MensRights10/09/22 05:38 PM
9

Perhaps lived experiences are only valuable when it fits in with their narrative?
/r/MensRights10/09/22 04:01 PM
6

Wait hang on, so you described your ‘lived experience’ and they rejected it?
/r/MensRights10/09/22 03:57 PM
2

I see. Surely that is just one possible reason for the success of those men? There could be many reasons for their success. The majority of men are not successful.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 03:55 PM
-3

I suppose they do have a point, the post doesn’t really have anything to do with men’s rights. But then again, ‘feminists’ do this all the time, talking about rape culture, men committing violent crime etc.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 02:48 PM
6

I agree, but unfortunately statistical evidence doesn’t count when it opposes their view :(
/r/MensRights10/09/22 02:03 PM
34

Best comment, 10/10 m8 lol!
/r/MensRights10/09/22 11:21 AM
5

I’m a teacher, and there are more women in the staff room than men, can I claim sexual harassment?
/r/MensRights10/09/22 07:11 AM
3

Why do you think society is patriarchal?
/r/MensRights10/09/22 07:08 AM
10

Why is it not that big of a deal?
/r/MensRights09/09/22 08:41 PM
18

I’m getting very confused now… Are you trolling? What was the purpose of your initial comment?
/r/MensRights09/09/22 08:39 PM
12

What does that mean exactly? Do you think circumcision is okay?
/r/MensRights09/09/22 08:28 PM
8

Beat them at their own game!
/r/MensRights09/09/22 03:16 PM
9

I think rape (sexual assault…?) against men is much more common than people think. One of my ex girlfriends essentially emotionally abused me and manipulated me during sex. Often, she would use me for her own pleasure, and disregard my own.
/r/MensRights08/09/22 06:33 PM
2

No no, you’ve got it all wrong! They want to abolish it, it’s on their to do list of tasks. Somewhere near the bottom I think…
/r/MensRights07/09/22 05:39 PM
7

Obviously it’s because of those cultural values that oppress women. It’s not hurting men, it’s only hurting the women :D
/r/MensRights07/09/22 05:33 PM
3

My school has adopted blind marking which will hopefully help this problem! Sometimes you can work out who the student is though :/
/r/MensRights06/09/22 03:25 PM
7

Very true. I have often found that people flip the question on you though, by saying ‘What do you think a patriarchy is?’
/r/MensRights06/09/22 09:25 AM
0

It’s not a good response if you want to formulate a logical argument.
/r/MensRights05/09/22 11:46 PM
9

That is not my argument. I’m saying it is not as clear-cut as that. Men were expected to undertake lots of responsibilities (providing for their family, working long hours, doing physical labour tasks, being chivalrous, fighting in wars, etc). Women were largely protected from these responsibilities. Yes women didn’t have the right to vote, but they also did not have to fight in wars. Of course, women had their own responsibilities as well, such as caring for the home, having children etc. The p…
/r/MensRights05/09/22 11:42 PM
200

First, you have to know what they mean by patriarchy. It’s important to ask that at the start, to avoid your opponent suddenly changing their definition on you.
/r/MensRights05/09/22 11:31 PM
-1

That does not make sense with their argument. They are saying they want to have at least one female president, not for every president to be female.
/r/MensRights05/09/22 11:30 PM
10

It was never a patriarchy. Women have enjoyed numerous protections and advantages throughout history. Of course, it was not a matriarchy either, but men certainly faced significant disadvantages (as did women).
/r/MensRights05/09/22 11:28 PM
2

I wonder what the sentence would have been if the man had removed the condom, or had poked holes in it himself?
/r/MensRights05/09/22 10:09 PM
5

Inb4 something along the lines of ‘it’s because of the patriarchy which thinks women are helpless and so help them more, so it’s still sexism’.
/r/MensRights05/09/22 08:06 PM
55

Ironically, I think it is actually social conditioning. A lot of men are now raised to buy in to the idea that women are oppressed, women need help more than men, and we need to make things better for women’s rights. If anyone questions this, then at best they are gently ‘educated’ on the ‘ correct’ view, and at worst are hated and socially shunned.
/r/MensRights05/09/22 06:50 AM
25

From what I’ve seen, he seems like a very knowledgeable and reasonable person, and he isn’t afraid to speak the truth. For some reason though, the truth tends to ‘offend’ people these days.
/r/MensRights03/09/22 05:41 PM
1

Unfortunately, a common response will be something like ‘Misandry isn’t a thing because patriarchy’, so we are already doomed from the get go!
/r/MensRights03/09/22 06:08 AM
22

My comment wasn’t that literal, obviously not! It’s clear that they only care about the women!
/r/MensRights03/09/22 01:42 AM
6

Exactly. It’s only discrimination if it hurts women (or non binary or whatever).
/r/MensRights03/09/22 01:41 AM
4

I think it’s unlikely, how is that a problem?
/r/MensRights03/09/22 01:40 AM
2

What attitude?
/r/MensRights03/09/22 01:38 AM
5

Well zero would be ideal yes, but impossible to actually achieve! Or very unlikely at least.
/r/MensRights03/09/22 01:37 AM
74

Are they saying we should have an equal amount of men and women dying from painkiller overdoses ?
/r/MensRights03/09/22 01:26 AM
13

Can one identify as a woman and then take part in the survey?
/r/MensRights03/09/22 01:01 AM
8

Jesus! You’ve gotta be pretty desperate or mad to glue your privates shut!
/r/MensRights02/09/22 11:22 PM
2

I see. I mean I can agree that a man should be aware of the possibility of the woman lying about being on birth control, so for his safety he should wear a condom. It’s a moot point though, because it isn’t his fault in the circumstance. Ideally, he would have taken all possible safety steps beforehand, but that’s not how humans behave. Anyway, I haven’t read the comment, sorry if I misunderstood you!
/r/MensRights02/09/22 07:16 PM
2

Contraception is the responsibility of both yes, not necessarily condoms. If a woman says she is on birth control, then it’s not the fault of the man if she has lied about that. Perhaps for safety sake (to avoid this lying situation) a man could wear a condom, but I don’t think he should be blamed if he doesn’t.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 07:01 PM
2

What did I miss? Sorry, I’m not following here. The Reddit app is a bit awkward to use, I can never find the comment I’m looking for!
/r/MensRights02/09/22 06:23 PM
1

I’m sure you did, but that’s not a normal reaction from him. I’m slightly lost as to what your point is here?
/r/MensRights02/09/22 06:21 PM
1

Maybe a ‘true’ feminist, whatever that means. Strictly speaking feminism should be concerned with equality for everyone, so you are right in the technical sense. However, in practice, I do not believe that feminism gives a damn about men’s issues like this.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 04:34 PM
2

I’m not sure what your view is then? Could you explain it, I don’t really understand your stance. I don’t think anyone is saying women should be forced into birth.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 04:32 PM
1

I disagree, I don’t think that most people react in that way.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 04:31 PM
2

You’d think so lol, not the case when I talk on other, supposedly equality-based communities!
/r/MensRights02/09/22 04:29 PM
3

That is true. I think I prefer Jordan Peterson or Matt Walsh slightly, but she does produce some interesting content.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 04:59 AM
18

I do agree with most of her points, but she does strike me as similar to a lot of feminists, in the sense that she comes across as though your opinion doesn’t matter, because she is right and you are wrong.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 04:43 AM
1

Possibly, I don’t think we can agree on this issue though.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 09:05 PM
1

Okay, I think we are getting a bit lost here.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 09:01 PM
1

Right, so in some situations it is right, in some situations it is wrong. That’s what I meant.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 08:55 PM
2

Well I’m not saying they can use it as an excuse, but it should be taken into account.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 08:41 PM
2

I agree to a certain extent, but I don’t think that kind of accident is comparable to a rape. Rape is very traumatic and I don’t think you could reasonably expect someone to be in a ‘mature’ frame of mind after such an event.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 08:21 PM
1

Not following. It’s either right or wrong. It can’t be between right and wrong. Either someone thinks abortion is right, or they think it is wrong. To be more precise, you can introduce additional conditions, such as ‘abortion is right only in circumstances of rape’ but the same logic applies. It is right or wrong (with whatever conditions you wish to apply).
/r/MensRights01/09/22 08:11 PM
2

I think it’s more complicated than that though. If you were raped, I don’t think you would necessarily be thinking of ‘preserving evidence’, you’d probably want to do whatever you could to erase the memory and make yourself feel better.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 08:06 PM
2

What do you mean by a ‘viable collection point’???
/r/MensRights01/09/22 07:32 PM
8

An important point to be aware of is that although it can be caught early, the treatments don’t always ensure a good quality of life.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 07:10 PM
3

That’s true. I suppose if they have the choice to have an abortion, but refuse it, then that’s their decision.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 06:17 PM
3

I think so. However I do wonder about cases of rape. Sometimes women are raped but can’t prove it, so that presents a problem.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 06:02 PM
26

Very true yes, great comments :)
/r/MensRights01/09/22 04:35 PM
1

But that means you don’t actually agree with it, you just put up with it? Do you think abortion is wrong, or do you think abortion is right?
/r/MensRights01/09/22 04:07 PM
2

Well it doesn’t matter what it is legally, either you agree or you don’t, so I think you are saying that you don’t agree with it.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 04:01 PM
2

I’m not sure I understand, you are against it or not?
/r/MensRights01/09/22 03:58 PM
4

So you disagree with abortion in general then?
/r/MensRights01/09/22 03:55 PM
8

I think we were saying that men should be able to opt out of financial responsibility, we should presumably also opt them out of parental rights as well. I don’t know why someone would want to opt out of parenting but not opt out of financial responsibility!
/r/MensRights01/09/22 03:52 PM
-1

I think that’s a bit risky though, because he could easily tell her that he’ll support her with everything, and then change his mind at eight months or something. That is definitely unfair on the woman. But I mean, my previous suggestion is basically the same thing as what you are saying, you assume that neither party wants the child, unless they said otherwise beforehand.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 02:44 PM
7

Sure, but you have to account for women who don’t know they are pregnant for a while. Perhaps the best option is to assume that the child is not wanted, unless otherwise stated beforehand.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 02:37 PM
5

I suppose we could change it and say the default is that you assume both parties do no want a child, unless otherwise stated.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 01:22 PM
20

That’s true, hence my comment about men making it clear before the sexual act itself. I don’t think there is a perfect solution, but that’s the best I can think of.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 12:24 PM
50

Yes, however you do also have to take into account women deliberately not telling the man in the time limit, to avoid him be able to opt out! I think the safest option is for men to just directly tell the woman (in writing, e.g fb message) that they intend to opt out of any pregnancy.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 12:16 PM
364

I think men should be able to opt out of parenting, provided they make it known soon enough into the pregnancy. Maybe in the first trimester. Whenever I mention this the response is usually ‘he shouldn’t have had sex if he wasn’t ready to be a dad’. Surely the same argument applies to women and abortion!
/r/MensRights01/09/22 12:11 PM
46

Very true, an excellent point. Another point I like to make is that the retirement age is higher for men, that’s an actual legal disadvantage against men.
/r/MensRights31/08/22 10:01 PM
14

Unfortunately, men can’t win here. Regardless of the circumstances, society will insist men are responsible for the child. I doubt you, I, or anyone else will have any success in convincing people otherwise :(
/r/MensRights31/08/22 09:03 PM
1

That’s fair enough, but I don’t think that is sufficient to properly believe what you are saying. Thanks for you view though.
/r/MensRights31/08/22 03:19 PM
-3

Well, let me put it another way. How do you know that the really vocal independent women are actually the least independent? What are you basing that belief on?
/r/MensRights31/08/22 03:17 PM
-2

Right, I see what you are saying now. I appreciate your belief, I’m not sure if I agree or disagree right now.
/r/MensRights31/08/22 03:15 PM
0

Right. Sorry I don’t really understand what you are saying :/
/r/MensRights31/08/22 03:13 PM
6

What do you mean by that? Can you tell me more?
/r/MensRights31/08/22 03:11 PM
49

I think the main issue is that society promotes full equality of outcome, but doesn’t take into account women’s choices and preferences. So feminism wants women to be strong and independent, but women don’t always want or agree with that (as in your example).
/r/MensRights31/08/22 11:32 AM
8

If she is threatening divorce, that is a red flag. Especially threatening about seeing your daughter. Sorry for what you are going through. I would say get out now, but I know it isn’t as easy as that! Your daughter is your priority I guess, do whatever you can to support your daughter.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 05:55 PM
34

Well, yes depending on what traits we are talking about. For instance, men are typically stronger than women, so women are ‘less capable’ of reaching the same strength standard. That’s just a fact of life.
/r/MensRights28/08/22 08:27 AM
8

Hi, from the UK here. There is definitely no way to claim that we in a Patriarchy on a legal basis, there are no laws discriminating against women, and there are certainly plenty of policies/schemes that benefit women (and not men). The usual counter-argument is that we are in a sort of ‘social’ patriarchy, where women are disadvantaged because of expected social norms and gender roles. I disagree with this, but I doubt we will ever convince feminists otherwise…
/r/MensRights28/08/22 08:23 AM
8

Biased against white males? A groundbreaking discovery.
/r/MensRights27/08/22 05:39 AM
6

Well it is true that men are doing most of the violent crime. I was just pointing out that if anyone should be afraid of going outside, it should be men.
/r/MensRights26/08/22 04:18 PM
1

Hi, I would point out that this not completely accurate, the new law specifies that affirmative actions need to take place, not necessarily a verbal yes. That’s important for several reasons.
/r/MensRights26/08/22 04:00 PM
2

Here’s an interesting thought: I believe that in the UK, the law states that you must reasonably believe that the other person consents. What’s the difference between that and Spain’s new law?
/r/MensRights26/08/22 03:59 PM
1

Of course it’s a weird request. One shouldn’t feel the need to record consent to sex. Sadly, in today’s society, it is a genuine concern for people (mostly men). How did we get to this point?
/r/MensRights26/08/22 01:27 PM
2

I see that he had more than two year service, so I suppose he can claim unfair dismissal here anyway.
/r/MensRights26/08/22 10:47 AM
2

Strictly speaking I don’t think that there is any law that prevents someone from being fired because they aren’t a feminist. So I doubt the courts will consider that. However, the last three bullet points may breach the equality act, so he might have some success there!
/r/MensRights26/08/22 10:29 AM
20

An interesting factoid is that men are more likely to be attacked/assaulted, make of that what you will…
/r/MensRights26/08/22 10:18 AM
1

That’s great to hear. I worry that she might be replaced by someone who is not as scrupulous as she was.
/r/MensRights25/08/22 01:16 PM
-14

Of course, probably because women are more likely to complain about it!
/r/MensRights25/08/22 01:02 PM
7

Perhaps people should make several complaints to this establishment about unwanted staring? Just to illustrate how ridiculous this rule is.
/r/MensRights25/08/22 01:01 PM
2

Well, I’m from the UK, so this would be against our equality act. I don’t know about countries outside of the UK.
/r/MensRights24/08/22 02:57 PM
2

It is discrimination and illegal. The issue is, who is going to challenge it? I doubt any organisation will bother with this, feminists certainly won’t.
/r/MensRights24/08/22 01:23 PM
1

We still have the equality act, this does provide protection against discrimination.
/r/MensRights24/08/22 01:23 PM
2

Probably because there is no social pressure to be in favour of watching porn, but there is social pressure to be in favour of LGBT people (not saying LGBT is bad, just that there is social pressure to accept it).
/r/MensRights24/08/22 09:05 AM
1

For me it’s probably the gender pay gap. While the gap exists, it’s how people interpret it that really annoys me.
/r/MensRights23/08/22 11:24 AM
2

They do like men having opinions, provided the opinion is that you agree with them!
/r/MensRights23/08/22 11:22 AM
1

The main issue that I have with feminism, is that they are basically exclusively concerned with issues that affect women. There are plenty of issues that affect men, but feminism does little to address these problems.
/r/MensRights22/08/22 05:34 AM
1

I believe this article is referring to the UK. In the UK there is a law known as The Equality Act, which essentially makes it illegal to discriminate based on sex, race, sexuality etc. So legally speaking, blocking white people from jobs would be illegal under this law. However, in practice it doesn’t work like that if you are white. I’m not aware of any legal challenge that has been brought because of e.g a white male being discriminated against, it would be interesting to see what would happen…
/r/MensRights17/08/22 02:56 PM
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